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00:00 Coming to you from the top of the Kremlin, this is The Voice of Russia. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday May 18th 2014 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 618 This is no agenda Still coming to you from the future here in the Hot Pocket Wasabi Tour Love Hotel In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Curry and stepping all over him because I have to because of the latency. I'm John C DeVore Wow nailed it It was so tight You couldn't you could not fit a needle in between us There's a ton of late. I started talking on the word hurry yeah, I'm as soon as he says that boom my head

00:48 Yeah, and then what's really interesting is we can do a half hour pre-show getting ready and the minute we start then the whole Skype connection falls apart. Yeah it's really unbelievable It's almost unfair. What? That's okay, try again. Just keep going it seems... I just got an internet connection problem error Ah okay so that-I thought so! I'm looking at... On Skype on Skype Yeah but it's gotta be you

01:26 Why? Because, you know I'm in Japan where everything is awesome. It's Japan! Oh yes right you're on this ridiculous high band what they have over there in Asia Yeah well and I'm looking at the ping times and everything's okay it's just...I don't know You're on your regular connection? Yeah yeah. I can go to Comcast if you want Wow, that might be interesting to try. Oh maybe later. Anyway it is 19 minutes past midnight here in Tokyo And it is episode 618 of the best podcast in the universe, trying our best to keep it all together. And you are... what's hour? Yeah. You're in the morning. Which is fine! It's not that late but I usually do the pre-show in the morning and so I had to get up earlier

02:21 Okay, but I'm in a better mood than it was last time. Oh you know it's funny some people commented on your mood Yeah They said I was in a bad mood yeah because that was stuck with this latency I'm talking away yak-yak-yak and then you say and then you throw it to me And then there's an hour lag and I say what? Yaksa more You know let's try Comcast oh you think that's gonna help I don't know John This is uh this is pretty pathetic Okay, it's worth it. Uh yeah I can decide actually actually I could almost do it on the fly so we can keep talking uh-huh Yeah, no serious. I can go to the network connection sharing center Just turn off this network okay, and you think the Skype connection will just keep working oh

03:09 You know stranger things have happened. Okay? Well, I'm marking the time down for to edit this out in case it becomes boring of course Of course they got a figure out because every one of these computers I have had the different you know They why doesn't Windows just stay with the same you know bet basic interfaces It's just beyond me okay here we go this gets shut off Disabled disabling okay disabling as we speak. I'm looking at his connection He still seems to be there and it was kind of interesting too Play with this. Okay, you've disabled are you still there? All right marking the time down that was really weird just before we started 18 19 20 oh your back and I didn't do anything yeah well it did reconnect Yeah, well okay, but I didn't tell him telling you interestingly enough And this is uh this is internet type stuff You might think that Sonic net which you're normally on

04:12 May just not have the routes to Japan that Comcast would have. Comcast might be more Japanese-centric! Yeah, and you sound... I'll have to say, You've never sounded better on Comcast Well there you have it. I'll send them the memo because i'm always complaining to them Oh, don't worry. I'm sure something will screw up eventually This is the reason that you need multiple connections. I was listening to the FCC hearings yes and one of the people said well then you get this and it's like a it's a It's a monopoly of they had some weird term They used did you did you get clips because you? You wrote about this in your uh in your newsletter update. I got the one clip of this long way

04:54 I got the clip of the rationale why the Democrats had voted yes on the Wheeler proposal and the Republicans voted no. And there...and the problem is that two women are the Democrats, and the two men are the Republicans, and the two women are these unbelievably long-winded boars Blah, blah, blah. They talk and in fact if you want to get this out of the way let's play the one woman the black one whose first name is Minyon as Filet Mignon which just seems odd but that's what her name is. You start playing this and she's coming up with all the reasons that the government should be involved The government has to be involved because we're all gonna be screwed If the government doesn't do something so we need the government The government, the government in the internet

05:43 And here she is rationalizing and she's throwing cliches. She's sentence structure is crazy, she says stuff that makes no sense if you listen to it but just play away and then you can stop when you feel like it. It's not a company, not the government determined winners and losers. It is a free market at... Yeah I'm done! No I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. You shouldn't be kidding. All of this, however does not nor will it ever occur organically. Without rules governing a free and open internet it is possible that companies fixed in wireless broadband providers could independently determine whether they want to discriminate or block content pick favorites charge higher fees or distort the market

06:31 I am been listening to concerns not just from my mother but from thousands of consumers and interested by the way, let me just say something about The when people say my mother when it relates to technology like My mother can't figure out how to use that or it's so easy my mother could use it. Or what- It just pulls you! Yes, it does because it is misogynistic and ageist at the same time And then there's so condescending for anyone to use that as an example. My mother could use it

07:08 Okay, I'm not gonna argue the point. I think you're right and so many people do this It's her whole argument has been couched on what her mother asked her parties Startups at fear they won't even get a chance to succeed okay Okay, I have to you know what we have to get into this startups that fear that yeah be able to succeed all right So let me go from no. No i'm gonna play her a little bit more. I have a few clips myself of responses around the world and as you know i'm very uh annoyed by toll road speed bump fast lane slow lane analogies

07:51 And now it seems the whole issue is startups. Startups won't have a chance, which is bull crap! No one cares about this. No no that's not true Adam because she was told by her constituents. Her constituents told her this you have to listen more to this woman By the way when your done with this part you can just jump to the second part where she talks more about her mother and the second question which is shorter I'm enjoying this I want to listen Consumers are controlled by corporations rather than a competitive level playing field. And that's... I didn't know what? What? Competitive... That makes no sense. It is controlled by corporations, not controlled by a level competitive play- How does it how does the level competitive playing field control anything?

08:35 But anyway, go on. They will be reticent to commit money to new companies because they are concerned that their new service won't be able to reach consumers in the marketplace Because of high costs or differential treatment? Yeah this is the Obama bot Reasoning about net neutrality it used to be Well, you know the there could be choices and different protocols and different systems And now it's all about the new startup. But when you really drill down into it I'm gonna take a slight Detour here John to MSNBC with this woman from recode

09:17 Recode is the outfit that used to be, what was that? Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg from... Yeah. All Things D. Here is a woman from Recode and she's really telling you what the issue is. When they talk about Fastlane it's not like a fast lane that you at home would buy because you can already buy faster service that you want. This would be more like a fast lane that an Amazon or Google, Facebook or Netflix could buy to get traffic to your house faster and the reason people are upset about this is not all companies have enough money just for pay for that kind of fast lane service so if this went into effect smaller companies or startups wouldn't necessarily be able to pay this extra toll

10:00 to get to your house faster. So meaning that like Netflix could in theory be more expensive but the next Netflix, the next thing you're gonna binge watch all your favorite shows on couldn't even get started because they really just can't pay for the faster service? Exactly! Okay exactly now I'm going to say something here which i'm going to build upon something that you said earlier in the week actually on Twitter The American public for sure, and I think this probably goes for publics around a lot of the globe. When it comes to droning people... Oh yeah, that comes. When it comes to spying universally when it comes to screwing the public no one cares! Killing American citizens with drones? No one cares but you're gonna make my Netflix buffer?! What?? WHAT???

10:54 I can't have a new Netflix that i can binge watch on? What?! Protest! And that is the pathetic nature of what's going on here. That is so pathetic. Yeah, that binge watching thing... It's so important we can binge watch when we feel like it By the way there was no such thing as binge-watching a decade ago and this truly is the only thing people are talking about Is the new Netflix The new Netflix. I want more Hollywood content! This is so sad. You're right, this is actually very pathetic it's an indictment of the mentality of the people that are all upset

11:36 Let's go back to a minion one. I'm gonna say something I gotta interrupt you go back to minion in a second Uh, i'm going to give a speech in michigan uh that i've been working on and it turns out I don't know how many more public speeches i'm going to be able to do i'm gonna write It already sounds like this may be one of the last ones depending on what you're going to say my conclusions i've been Developing a new speech are extremely depressing And do you want to give us a little... It's just that part of what you said is part of it. We have regressed The computer revolution began as a freedom movement. It was the freedom and independence of the big mainframes, and once the internet got involved it pushed us back in the other direction to the point where we're all slaves now to this kind of thing and this sort of thinking our concerns are about binge watching! And we don't give a crap about anything else. It's even worse man... We had dinner tonight with two Dutch guys

12:32 One who has a very well-run, successful advertising agency here. And his friend who sold an internet company in the Netherlands...a social network a couple years ago and so he's kind of on a worldwide tour going around and then this guy you know made some good money I presume He goes to Bali is going around China is hanging out in Japan He was just... the things he was saying, and this is a guy who knows what's going on. It was like, well you know you really can't stop the information flow and people that... The privacy is overrated. Defeatism! These guys are brought in completely to the defeatism of the whole thing. Oh, you can't do anything about privacy? Anyone who says that which is bullcrap by the way You can do plenty about it but anyone who says that's a defeatist and a depressing loser And he was like

13:34 What was he saying, you know and it's good that people can track if you're a menace to society. If you're a smoker then your burden on society." And I'm like wait a minute are you the kind of guy that also wants to have GPS tracker in your car to lower your insurance rates? He said yeah its unavoidable! I'll have the chip! People said they would have the chip and nice guy by the way but wow He also, you know... Oh man. It was he was like a transhumanist and Ray Kurzweil is great Bill Gates is saving the world my head was exploding Yeah every meme and cliche that we are against on this show Was coming at ya in stereo And I'm trying to eat sushi at the same time it's very difficult

14:22 Let's back the back to this these minion beyond a mignon Educators even where there is high capacity connection at that school Feel that their students may not be able to take advantage of the best in digital learning if the quality of content is poor Because your YouTube is buffering. Is that what's gonna happen the content? Content will be poor Oh, please healthcare professionals worrying that the images they need to view Will load too slowly and that patients will be unable to benefit from the latest technologies in specialized care This is this is insane This woman is rolling out every mean possible Let me think what else you should get I'm just gonna guess

15:09 What else is she gonna talk about? That we won't be able to get our milk ordered automatically? Internet of Things. She does a little bit of internet of things. Made possible through remote monitoring and I am hearing from everyday people who say that we need to maintain the openness of the internet for netflix and that this openness enables today's discourse to be viewed by thousands and offers them the ability to interact directly with public policy makers and engage in robust exchanges like we are experiencing today. In fact,

15:49 Let me say how impressed I was when I spoke to some of you on Main Street earlier this week. You came to Washington from North Carolina, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia on your own dime to affirm just how important this issue is to you. You made it clear that the Internet is a great equalizer in our society and that average consumers should have the same access to the Internet as those with deep pockets. There are dozens of examples across the globe where we have seen firsthand the dangers to society when people are not allowed to choose, government blocking access to content and stifling free speech in public discourse

16:31 Countries like including some in Europe where providers have congested or degraded content and apps are being blocked from certain mobile devices. Oh, excuse me that happens here it's everywhere this is rampant and what she's calling for is for legislation that literally will put in place the ability to block so-called illegal content, whatever that means. Yeah it'd mean downloading movies and music I got an email just before the show And a lot of people are very happy with our stance and trying to explain what is happening because if your only source of information

17:14 is, you know mainstream media. Or the hysterical tech media. Let me give you a... Here's an example of MSNBC I know, I know the more people listen to this show than watch MSNBC but it is an example of how dumb the mainstream media treats its public. I don't think the public is dumb, but this is a dumbing down when you talk about this issue like this. Net neutrality it's a wonky techie term. Oh! It's a wonky techie term? Woohoo! It's a wonky techie term. Probably heard thrown around the interwebs. The interwebz? It's thrown around the interwebz. Wow buddy.

17:53 We read about here and there in the past few months. And perhaps as a person who uses a computer or smartphone or tablet, you've wondered whether you should care? Do you have Wi-Fi?! If we don't have wifi shouldn't care! Well...you should. And we figured that given new events unfolding this week in Washington now is a good time to bring you up to speed. Get it? If not, hopefully you will in a minute. For starters the term net or network neutrality is based on a principle that basic internet protocols should be non-discriminatory. In short that content providers should treat all Internet traffic equally

18:31 Back in January, an appeals court struck down regulations from the Federal Communications Commission that were designed to protect net neutrality. And that brings us to this week and FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler's proposed new rules to protect the open internet but with a very big caveat. A caveat that would essentially create a fast toll-free road for those who can afford it and a slower lane for those who can't. And that has some activists for the open internet really fired up on Thursday protesters gathered outside as FCC board members voted on and weighed in on these new proposed rules for the road, for access to high-speed Internet. Alright you are wrong now let me just so this is this isn't email that came in just before the show I've been listening to Noah Jenner for quite some time now

19:20 Although I disagree with some opinions you have, especially about global warming. I kept watching you and John...I hope this person is actually not watching us because that... I am too! Yeah. I'm looking around for the camera where are you? I kept watching you and John because your funny and provide other more reasonable points of view and ways of thinking You say a lot of wrong stuff about other topics too, but I have let them all slide because of the same reasons. Because we're funny! I think you've crossed the boundary in my head when you went on the attack against net neutrality Although you claim to have more knowledge on the subject than the citizenry, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Now I'm not going to do a sentence-by-sentence dissection of your speech on net neutrality or global warming because that would be boring for me... Boring for you and plainly ineffective since you just dismiss it!

20:15 If you don't know who the guy in the video you played is, it's CGP Grey. Did we play- WHOA! Who was that? I dunno Oh he's very well loved on the internet and I predict... You'll get a lot of backlash because of that. Seems unlikely Note however that its not the reason im turning you off Im not CGPs bodyguard Although many people are. We're gonna get beat up, John I'm turning you off because i think that sometimes you take a position about a subject not because of what You read and believe but because you just want to be against the majority Have fun in Japan Wow! He didn't say anything else? Did he say have fun in Japan creep or anything No it was kind of like a last line you know have fun on Japan um and I'm gone I'm out I've stopped listening I'm done

21:03 Yeah, well he's not much of a listener because if he was, he would have heard that letter before the rant that you just recently gave. You read that letter from the SysOp guy who explained the problem with equal packets and in fact I was watching another thing on C-SPAN. I don't have a clip of it because these guys are little long winded but it was group of high end guys in one of the smaller conference rooms discussing the net neutrality issues and why it's bogative. They were all thinking the same way you were, and one of them described a situation that if all packets are equal how do you deal with the following situation? You have a congested network which they always get to be because there are some people running videos, and you're running a remote control surgery operation where a doctor is in New York and he's operating on a remote control. Okay okay here's how it works

21:55 I'm gonna watch Sharknado in high def. Who cares about some doctor? And so the doctors working and he needs real-time connectivity through the internet, and he has to have a high priority let's say a high-end operation where they were doing, this sort of thing was happening which it will in the future because there's not gonna be enough surgeons. There'll be these remote control operations. They're gonna have to buy a really hot you know they're gonna have to buy a straight pipe through the same internets because these are all privately owned pipes anyway very few public ones and according to all these people nope that should be illegal! You can't do that because now all of a sudden your prioritizing packets

22:39 How does that work? That's a very good argument. And I bet a lot of people would love to pressure their insurance company to ensure, not insure but ensure that they actually have high priority paid priority access if they're being operated on! If you had that option would you say oh no i want my packets for my open heart surgery to be equal to Netflix Yeah, and then they gave them plenty of examples like that. And it makes nothing but sense when you think about it this is a hysterical argument that we're listening to everybody is freaky They are they're not thinking this through they are there This is the way the society's now working It makes people like this and I mean when I was doing twitch, I mean everyone's literally shaking their shaking There so mad at you by the way, they're so mad at you. I didn't even do well

23:37 Well, just by even- Michael I said what? I think this is a dog poo. Just by poo pooing it? Yeah! Just by not jumping on board?! Yes! Yeah... You are by definition you are the enemy when you do stuff like that. You're not poo pooin' it, you are- POOTING IT!!! You're pooting it, baby. That's no good! You're poo-poo-pootin it!" Well let's finish off Mignon here and then I want to play clip two of her which is a short one and this...it's poignant enough that we have to play it. The second question she posed was can providers just do what they want? This is her mom right yeah her mom asked the question. And I'm sure her quick mom would say can those service providers you know the ISPs do whatever what they want as if she's gonna ask that at all Of course they did

22:39 How does that work? That's a very good argument. And I bet a lot of people would love to pressure their insurance company to ensure, not insure but ensure that they actually have high priority paid priority access if they're being operated on! If you had that option would you say oh no i want my packets for my open heart surgery to be equal to Netflix Yeah, and then they gave them plenty of examples like that. And it makes nothing but sense when you think about it this is a hysterical argument that we're listening to everybody is freaky They are they're not thinking this through they are there This is the way the society's now working It makes people like this and I mean when I was doing twitch, I mean everyone's literally shaking their shaking There so mad at you by the way, they're so mad at you. I didn't even do well

23:37 Well, just by even- Michael I said what? I think this is a dog poo. Just by poo pooing it? Yeah! Just by not jumping on board?! Yes! Yeah... You are by definition you are the enemy when you do stuff like that. You're not poo pooin' it, you are- POOTING IT!!! You're pooting it, baby. That's no good! You're poo-poo-pootin it!" Well let's finish off Mignon here and then I want to play clip two of her which is a short one and this...it's poignant enough that we have to play it. The second question she posed was can providers just do what they want? This is her mom right yeah her mom asked the question. And I'm sure her quick mom would say can those service providers you know the ISPs do whatever what they want as if she's gonna ask that at all Of course they did

24:23 The short answer is yes. As of January, we have no rules to prevent discrimination or blocking. This is actually a significant change because the FCC has had policies in place dating back to 2004 when the commission under former chairman and my good friend Michael Powell unanimously adopted four principles of an open internet in their internet policy statement The internet policy statement which is not enforceable is what she's talking about. Right. And but... Back it up, back it up because she mentions this- I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That was poor- I was pouring coffee and I couldn't uh- I couldn't get everything at the same time. She makes this comment and she always does this, she says,

25:08 which we're maybe going to enforce one of these days. And then she keeps bringing this non-enforcing thing up in a very funny way as though it was gonna be enforced or we should enforce, or maybe net neutrality meeting is about enforcing it." The commission under former chairman and my good friend Michael Powell... Alright let's just do it again. ... unanimously adopted four principles of an open internet in the Internet Policy Statement These principles became the rules of the road with the potential for enforcement. Right, potential for enforcement and this is important to point out because people are being taught now

25:51 There were rules that are being dismissed and broken and taken away, which they just were not. No there were suggestions! Then in 2010 the Commission formally adopted rules to promote an open internet by preventing blocking and unreasonable discrimination When the commission approved these rules, I explained why... Notice by the way it's unreasonable discrimination. This is where we're coming from which has been working pretty well! Unreasonable discrimination and that will remain in place? ...done some things differently For instance, I would have applied the same rules to both fixed and mobile broadband. Prohibited paid priority agreements. Limited any exceptions to the rule and I am on record as preferring a different legal structure." The 2010 rules reflect a compromise yes mom i do compromise at times but in January of 2014 the DC Circuit disagreed with our legal framework

26:53 And here we are again. Yeah, this woman is a moron and the main... Not that she's actually a moron but No! She has no idea. She doesn't understand how this works. She just talking out of her butt. Paid...she's against paid priority agreements That is called peering Where you have the unbalanced. You have an unbalanced, got one side that's delivering a lot of stuff and the other side is not but it would like to... It's also known as transit! That's the technical term. Transit. You pay for transit And then you..and that is because you have no peering and you need to get somewhere and you can't get there for free. You have to pay for it This people has no idea how the internet works Interwebs I'm sorry

27:39 They really have no idea. And you're right, the hysterical tech press who think that it's like just one big round-robin network that is just everything's flowing and is all free and it's all equal up and down... No one ever talks about that anymore by the way. Well I want to point out something Talking about peering and these agreements all the rest of it. We changed the connection on this show today in real time From one connection that did not have good peering to Japan which ran over AT&T I might add which would make sense because the Japanese are you know, eccentric with their Telephone system and they probably don't like AT&T and they probably never get

28:22 got together and the cable company probably did. So there's a different peering agreement with Comcast than there is... How is that equal packets? How can it ever be equal packets? The overhead to make equal packets is outrageous! Or did it cut out? No, just for a second. I'm not going to edit the beginning of the show so people can actually hear that how horrible it was you switch to a different network and if we had the time we could see do trace routing and you could see is probably far fewer hops to get from here to there And in fact its paid priority You pay a certain amount for this particular

29:10 Connection. But people don't, they've taken it so for granted and you and I know how this works when well... People who are the designated tech technologist in the family? I don't know if that's you or is that Buzzkill Jr maybe who's a designated techy in the family that gets the call We all get calls Eric probably more than anyone He's he's the wires guy Here here's like The internet doesn't work And you have to say, well what do you mean the internet doesn't work? Well I'm trying to get to Facebook. Oh yeah that would be me in this house right and by the way but they never say that everyone knows it's down down check the router! But i have an agreement with my wife the darling miss Mickey because I don't mind being the guy when something is wrong but I said look

30:05 If you want tech support, I'm going to teach you and let this be a lesson for everybody who deals with tech support. Now actually i'm going to be very misogynistic for a moment if you're a woman and you are asking for tech support from a man sex it up a little bit we respond well to that And Mickey does this now. She says, hey... This needs all kinds of humorous situations! She comes in and says, hey tech support! Does she pull off her top or anything? Sometimes. Well that's a way to get results! Yes but I'm saying you better believe it gets results if you're if you're a dude there are other ways to doodle up then and you'll get results but you have to treat technologists who are going to help you with some respect

30:59 And a little sex. I don't know how he got off on that bit, but yeah it was good! It's true people don't respect their technology help desk they do not respect them because it's like your car you know when your car breaks down hey take it to Joe Hey Joe fix my car And this stuff is barely working. It's barely working! And then it's like, oh the internet done...it's like Facebook all you know Facebook sucks sometimes or maybe enough to refresh or can't there's so many different things anyway um there was despite it I'll let me reiterate one thing which is that this is a hopeless argument nobody got like the letter you got from that guy

31:51 is classic. He's all in on this net neutrality argument from this perspective, and he's all in on global warming. Gee! What else is he all in on? He's obviously listened to the show twice, didn't like anything, thought maybe we're funny once in a while and then he bails out because he can't...He won't listen, he won't listen. This is the problem that we have. I got a letter from I read it last show or the show before from with this family that had all the names and The person writing the woman she says we tried to hit our friends in the mouth, and it doesn't work We got the full families in on the show And we have iterated this a number of times which is you cannot convince people that are already ruined They've ruined themselves for some whatever reason they're lost causes. You have to preach to the choir

32:42 for our show's benefit to get our audience bigger we just need more choir members. We're not gonna get some guy, oh my god I've been wrong all these years! My entire everything i thought was true is wrong and I can't live with myself most people literally can't live with themselves if they realize some of these crazy things that we talk about routinely on this show. One of our very open-minded you know uh... will talk about in a minute but we had a before she had no agenda meet up here in Tokyo And it's always nice when you meet some of the producers in person, and they come with some really personal stories such as...

33:18 I got, you know, type 1 diabetes and if it weren't for the show, I'd be dead. If didn't listen to you guys and get some kind of critical thinking about what is the pharmaceutical industry trying to do to me? And what did they want me to inject and take?" He said, you know, I have a better life because of it." Of course he said that yourself but... It's the kind of thinking that will save you and the people, you know this is a giant reality show. And a lot of people are going to get voted off and it's not gonna be pretty except if you're listening you have a good chance

33:57 The show is designed to actually maintain a sort of thought process that is more open-minded and more liberal, to be honest about it than any liberals. That's for sure the knee jerks as we used to call them. And it's very healthy, it's very beneficial but you do have trouble...you're not gonna get people that are all in On the propaganda, like your Dutch friend there that was at the dinner. That guy is so far gone you could never reel him in a million years. You might as well just let him go. It's like okay you're on your own

34:34 It's kind of pathetic. Well, that's what I told him. I said you're on your own dude For a healthy balanced news diet try no agenda show calm I just had one last clip on this net neutrality thing and that was before the hearing started which I knew you were going to have these clips because you had the newsletter, but i got this clip of a couple of protesters who were removed forcibly. And I just want you to listen to, I think it's two or three in a row and then we'll talk about that. The lack of legitimacy of our democracy and we want to make sure that people understand the context of this is that we have illegitimate democracy and we need to have the people ruling It's obviously Internet is a common carrier. It brings us all equally to the net where we can all go without any prejudice or bias Without discrimination We don't wanna see that end

35:36 So this guy is talking about it's obvious the Internet is a common carrier and we don't have a democracy without it. We want to see the FCC do its job, and regulate the internet for the people! Regulate the internet for the people? Does he hear what's coming out of his mouth? Regulated for the people... Not regulated for the corporations. Not for the corporations. Regulated-regulated?! The fact that he wants it regulated by the government- please government! They want you driving millions of dollars in cop cash they want you driving millions of dollars for the people What does that woman say in the background so there's like free internet or something should fuck the Internet Yeah, I think she did it funky. I don't know what get her out to and then now he's gone

36:27 Ah, there we go. Popularresistance.org Hey! Hey I like that. I'll be right back to that. Get out of our right so popular resistance the internet was created with our dollars This is a very interesting Outfit popular resistance org, but I'm just looking at their home page Warren peace in Korea and Vietnam net neutrality So now what Obama administration resist effort to save videos of Guantanamo Edna. You know it's like who are these people?

37:13 And you go to About Us, which I always do. Then there's our mission... With the corporate takeover of federal and state governments more people are becoming politically active in new and creative ways A growing culture of resistance is utilizing nonviolent direct action civil disobedience as a primary tactic Oh this sounds good! And then it's like... oh from Veterans for Peace to Occupy Wall Street to Tar Sands Blockade Okay And then, you know and you look at who is our contributors and there's no corporations. No nothing there. Jake Bulkwill who is the editor of Love News LUV. Well here's how I figured out... He was a communications worker guy! You go to donate and then it says please make a tax-deductible donation online through our fiscal sponsor The Alliance for Global Justice

38:11 So you go to the Alliance for Global Justice, and that's a nice outfit. They do about... well they haven't filed their 2013 numbers yet but 2012 they did it in nice three and half million dollars in donations and their goal is to achieve social change and economic justice by helping to build a stronger more unified grassroots movement And the donors are interesting. Actually, the donors are listed in this Form 990 which is not typical. That's nice! Yep and I'm scrolling down to it here... Community Foundation Fidelity Charitable Gift Fund FireDoll Foundation It's all- see this is how it works This is the path that you have to follow

39:06 And you have to go back...these are all nonprofits. So the nonprofits give to the nonprofit, who gives to the nonprofits? The Brightwater Fund, seriously! Yeah no they're all fronts for Soros. Yes in general yes exactly and these are not grassroots movements these are people who are paid In a non-profit way, now of course they do pay. They have payroll taxes but it is unbelievable the level... there's three or four levels deep of these nonprofits and they act like they're some kind of grassroots movement but they're not! These people are paid to do this. Free classifieds! This is ours! We've got our rights in sight!

39:59 Keep the internet safe! Well that hellcat that's screaming in the background is worth all of whatever they pay her. Exactly what you want. Yeah, thank goodness. And I had to bring the... and this outfit by the way used to be the Nicaragua Foundation So they... Like goes back? Oh yeah oh yeah this goes way back. It's a business what do you do you got to make some money somehow So just to reiterate, and it kind of flows right into this email I received from Chris. Hey gents in the morning thanks for your courage! I just wrapped up listening to episode 617. I found the packet inequality clips very interesting The pricing model that Comcast exec was talking about is already happening with my cable provider We use Suddenlink for data only and not cable

40:51 Six months ago, Suddenlink moved to the pricing model of a total data cap for the month based on the speed you pay for and charging $10 for each 50 gigabytes you go over. We pay $70 a month for 30 up and 5 down." He probably means 30 down or five up. Yes! That's what I mean. "...We are all Netflix house so we hit the data cap quickly... To avoid overages, I had to set my Netflix account back to that different streaming quality Now we never come close to our 250 gigabyte cap even with the streaming to four TVs and four mobile devices. Just thought you'd like to know this pricing plan is already in play Thanks for your hard work and for watching C-SPAN so I don't have to." And that by the way, is fair! That is a fair way for it to work He was streaming HD to 4 different devices

41:45 maybe all at the same time sometimes, and you're saturating a portion of the network which may have to be upgraded or it's just not free. People think this is free like it's air! Well here's the other thing... Here's something I'm gonna tell ya what's gonna happen in the recent years. We're gonna get tarred and feathered is what's going to happen. No but they gave me... no we've just marginalized those two assholes there always like the guy says he was disagreeing to disagree yeah okay fine Here's the deal that's gonna happen. You've got this, they're gonna put these caps up because they're gonna... That's what they really wanna do and Netflix of course wants a free ride on the whole thing so it can just hog all the bandwidth and if you think that right now they're using 1 3rd of all US bandwidth after 5 p.m., something like that is very high when people start using it a lot? This is nothing! Multiply that one third times 4x because when we go to 4k streaming

42:41 Which Foley, our Archduke is into. Yeah that is going to just bring the net It's gonna bring it to its knees and that's when you'll be happy to pay for priority You'll be happy! It will be an experience. It will be fantastic. You will pay a little extra for it Sorry the days of $8 Netflix are over but it's fair That's-that's the good... That's the thing that makes me just... You know, forget about it. You're right we're just gonna be marginalized let's move on because the people who are in are in and the people who are out they are going to leave. Yeah I think you've made our point enough Hey so we were here in Tokyo on what was it now? Friday night Sir Mark and Dame Astrid threw a huge party It's kind of...so they have this business and then on the side

43:43 They have something called Super Deluxe, which is pretty much a big contribution to the art scene in Tokyo. And they do 25 events a month and they're basically adding money to it and they threw a 50-50 party It was a party for two gents who are going to be... Twenty five events a month? That's not right! Yes! Look at the calendar 25 events a month? Yes. That's the whole month! Yes, yes I thought they had work to do They have staff running this place

44:25 And it's really, it's just a crazy art place that sometimes is dancing. Sometimes its performance art they have expos all kinds of stuff and they understand our value for value model so well because they have to go out and get people to pay for it because...and then of course you know there are...they have a vow poverty on their project So we had...so they threw a party for Marks or Mark and me at this party There were, first there were two musicians very funny Morgan Fisher who used to play with Mont the Hoople. He did Everlasting Love he's a organist keyboardist

45:14 And he's been in Tokyo for 20-25 years. And Sam Bennett, another musician and these guys they just sat down played for like 45 minutes a whole bunch of hits from our youth and then there were pole dancers Interestingly enough with some audio provided by John C. Dvorak calling Miss Mickey and Dame Astrid to the stage Nice nice job, John Then then there was a Performance art by Ugino and I think Mr.. Mark sent pictures ain't you pictures? I gotta put them on my on the blog or in the show notes or something oh

45:59 So it was like two guys and they have, they were... They had a guitar with the blender on it. And then he played the other guitar and then he was blending milkshakes. I think it must've been illegal at least in 13 prefects in Japan. He had his love arm which was just screaming lights and flashing. It was very...I think it was just insane. Followed by the 5678's the three Japanese girls who were in Kill Bill. They do kind of the beach, you know the surf sound and then... And of course DJ Toretso got on The Wheels Of Steel and played us Into The Night! And the only thing that was missing was you John I was there in spirit In spirit but we missed you We had a lovely meet up 10 or 12 producers came from around Japan actually

46:57 And what I think we should do is...well, let me first thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! Yeah? Well, let me think. And by the way, I wanna mention that we're trying to a meet-up of some sort in Detroit so send an email johnatdvorak.org and subject line Detroit and we'll make a mailing list I should just take from the mailing list, but it's like... In the morning you Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding their subs in the water and all the dames and all the knights out there. And to our artists thank you very much 20 watt bulb for the artwork of the Japanese wave which we rolled out for episode 617

47:42 That was highly appreciated. And in the morning to everyone in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net Good to see you all here Let me kick off with our on-the-spot donations John if you don't mind? Yes add them up Okay, let me see actually everybody handed us a beautiful note And I didn't know this but in Japan the it is tradition if you are giving someone a card You have to get a really pretty envelope and it's all yeah We were very familiar with this tradition here in the Dvorak household where both Mimi and and Jay Know how to wrap gifts Japanese style. Oh to me it's like ludicrous, but that was pretty it's pretty and I got two follow-on notes So everyone wrote a little note on there on their envelope, but this first one is from Brandon Baker who? Donated 35 thousand six hundred and five yen which he says as of May 16th is three hundred and fifty dollars in 50 cents and

48:45 So he will be an executive producer today. Dear John and Adam, in the morning to you both Hope this email arrives in time for episode 618 I would have sent it earlier but the hangover I developed at the 50-50 party in Tokyo has finally subsided nearly 36 hours after I left the party Cheap sake No we were drinking something else It's a clear liquid Oh that clear yam whiskey? Yeah Do not drink that! Oh yeah. It was great to make my first donation to No Agenda directly to Adam in person at the party, the donation was for $350.50, three because of the magic number and 50-50 in celebration of Adam and Sir Mark's birthdays! Speaking of Adam... He was nothing like I expected! He was extremely friendly! Yeah after a cup of those yam whiskeys. Sincere and humble

49:36 I guess media assassination really gets his blood boiling. I guess, yeah...I guess what I come across as a dick to him Anyway it was a pleasure spending a few minutes talking with him and Miss Mickey who is da bomb And thank you Sir Mark and Dame Astrid for hosting a great party In conclusion! I'd like to thank you both for your courage As well as helping me to s- helping me to see through the illusion that is big pharma. Several years ago I was diagnosed with a chronic illness, and I was told that it would require a prescribed lifestyle and lifetime of medication to support it however turns out the lifestyle doctors recommend is really what makes those drugs necessary not the illness Thanks to the No Agenda Show I had the insight and skepticism required To get to the bottom of things that completely changed my life around You guys are lifesavers! With not too much trouble, may I please have a... Gonna get busted eventually by the FDA. So good May I have a take your meds slave and douchebag combo for Big Pharma A de-douching for myself And a karma for everybody out there that needs it

50:35 Ganbatte kudasai, gentlemen. Japanese for keep on fighting let me see if where is the take once take your meds douchebag and a doogee I'll do the de-douching well i could do it all in one go i guess i'm gonna Do the douche bag first then make it easy here we go There we go. Next up, we have... We have Dwayne Lively who also sent an email

51:29 In the morning, great sirs. I've been a listener since around episode 100 or so and now I find that I can't watch the mainstream media for more than a few minutes without getting a migraine and bad case of the shakes! I also can't see a news story about foreign country without searching the country's name and oil. Yeah, that's your best bet. In the past I've tried to help out the show by contributing information on various issues including the post office financial difficulties but finally decided it was time to cut off my boner so-to-speak and help you great sirs out of your financial difficulties! I hope this donation of 33 thousand yen helps some? John since i paid in cash make sure Adam credits the entire amount and didn't just say oh no he only donated 20 thousand

52:10 What did it take me for? You must have impressed them. It was great meeting Adam and the magnificent Miss Mickey, the rest of the No Agenda producers were nice too although we were a bit scruffy compared to the rest of the crowd I hope to meet John someday. I hope you and the No Agenda producers will check out my daily blather at DwayneLively.com, and my desperate...I'm in desperate...and desperately in need of an update CrazyJapan.com. I could use a little karma if it's not too much trouble thank you for encouraging your hard work Duane thank you very much Duane for your support You're an executive producer. Then we have okay the next one here

53:00 Now we have just cards. Adam and John, thank you for your courage! This is from Sam from Tokyo Please accept this Paltry donation as a token of gratitude for the many hours of infotainment you've provided me with. This donation is long overdue and I would like to de-douche myself if possible, also transfer my douchebag status over to my brother Steve O in Cleveland. Little shot of karma be appreciated for family and friends and a shout out to Mooney & Walker out in New York keep up the good work guys love the show PS sorry for the Christmas card. I was in a rush to go to the Tokyo party for Adam and Sir Mark, including anything I like it take these you taking you a car used like a Christmas card from someone else That's even better cross out Christmas You type you write it in with a pen and then you cross out their name inside of it And he gave us a check actually four hundred eleven dollars and eleven cents a US check Then we have Here's the next one

54:05 Hold on, make sure I do this right. Now you know what it's like! Yeah well... yeah sucks Okay This is Graham Briggs in the morning Thanks for coming to Japan and some- Oh wait first I gotta hand out some karma I forgot the karma there for our buddy You've got Karma Here's Todd The lowly serf of Tokyo With 21 thousand yen Thank you very much, and I'll hand you some karma for that thought. You've got karma. Now Graham Briggs in the morning thanks for coming to Japan and some Karma for Tohoka and my wife Yoroshiku 6000 yen And of course Karma for you guys! And... You've got karma Then finally This was the really beautifully wrapped card

55:04 And this is from... yeah, this is a pretty funny note. I don't know if I can get through all of it It's handwritten beautiful cursive to you Adam. Hello It's Bill and JV from the BJ consulting group in Osaka! Osaka! And they were wearing t-shirts which I have acquired two one for you John at which the T shirts say fuck Tokyo I heart Osaka apparently there's some rivalry between the two oh Yeah We are riding this on a shaky bullet train Can't read it. While drunk! That's why I can't read it. Here is an on-the-spot $100 donation and some goodies from our hometown, Osaka T-shirts and the No Agenda stickers We had promised you octopus balls if you came to Osaka

55:49 If we brought them on the train, they would have been cold and soggy by the time we reached Tokyo. And that would've meant soggy balls." They were very drunk! As we are members of... That's funny Bill, yeah. Hey, we're gonna call ourselves The BJ Consulting Group. They were the ones who turned me onto that yam wine I bet they did. As we are members of the 200 Club, we'd like to thank you and Miss Mickey for coming to visit Japan to hold the Hot Pockets Wasabi 2009 Tour! We love a live Grand Rienval-don't-raff! And a karma BJ Consulting Group consists of Bill & JV — this is the only official no agenda

56:36 meeting in Osaka. Oh, they do meetups themselves just two guys having beer that's the Osaka Meetup Bill is a... Sounds like it Yeah Bill is a salaryman in big Japanese industrial company where he takes care of global network of websites and domains JV is an industrial designer who also works with development of graphene and 3d printing What is graphene? Is graphene? Yeah. Wow! What is graphene? It's the super substance of the future, my friend. Oh! What can you do with it? Everything. Nice! It's strong, it just... You should look it up and read about because it is an astonishing product. They did this a little bit you know said the molecular level of problem with it isn't that you know they it there still manufacturing of graphene as an issue in it will be solved eventually okay so for them Grand Green World, Don Ralphie, Shaggah South Angle, Hype!

57:38 The suits would be on us. Karma. Alright, we'd have the memo! Mr. Curry seems to be... Hey John can I speak with you for a minute? Do you know Adam's getting a little bit of this Japanese thing he's like a little too uh yeah it's pretty you know they said the women in the secretarial pool they think it's racist oh oh yeah well totally don't drop Why you are laughing? Shut up. Who needs to be a racist? We do have a few other executive producers to thank and let's thank them including Sir JD $333.33, a Trans-Pacific ITM to you Adam and John lifeboat greetings for producer Sir J D in an undisclosed location in the central California coast where several clans have met to launch a new couple into the universe

58:24 I can hear the Pacific Ocean crashing on the background while i compose this message as I reflect on the celebrations of the day and the sounds of the waves from Japan coming to the California coast. I think of how we are all connected by oceans Airwaves and ideas we exchange in the time we spend together. Please give a jobs, jobs, jobs little girl yay karma shot celebration shout out to Matt and Amy as they stay start their married life by the sea in the same way that my wife And I got married 17 years ago came up with great work kittens and courage Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Let's vote for jobs You've got karma

59:05 So now Sergey D mentions this donation is the first of his matching donations for the Slash NAJD challenge. He wants a PDF link in the email to the show notes, which I think we can do. Okay, as an executive Order 9066 the match to reflect this show is recent Japan America focus Can you remind me to do that after the show is over because I'm gonna be so tired. Yeah, yeah But I'm putting it down right now. My boss said to remind you Let's see, Sir JD. Okay Chris Spears 333 33 in Austin Texas to keep Austin in the game Greetings gents I hope a little value for value finds you well if my accounting is right? I think you must now call me sir no the extra penny is thrown in okay. I think I got that here It's actually it's actually 10 yen 10 yen 10 yen Oh, please racist regale us all with Lord Dvorak's request for obedience Thanks

1:00:06 I didn't expect. I thought he wanted something else wasn't there uh Well, he says it's impossible to find that clip from Charlie Rose's interview with Penelope Cruz Penelope? Penelope John really? That's what i said yeah Penelope You will obey you will obey tell me about this sexuality It's in your DNA. You've got karma. Penelope was that one from Penelope oh It was Angelina Jolie, I think. Right right right yeah! I don't know but i never saw his interview with her the... But just to hear you say Penelope is funny enough. Penelope? That's the new way of pronouncing it Yeah, I'm good with that Dave O in Milwaukee Wisconsin 333 33 nice please refer to me as Dave O this donation elevates me from boner to donor I started listening to show around episode 100 and we just read this note

1:01:01 I feel ashamed for not donating earlier, but I've been living a mac and cheese life for years after 33% raise in the past year. I figured it was a sign! So here's a long overdue donation to the best podcast in universe. I was one of those producers that stopped listening to your show for almost a year." It wasn't a matter of time, it was more like I understood that everything was effed up and I could do nothing about it. Boy was I wrong! The knowledge and understanding of all government propaganda is priceless. Getting news from around the world is priceless. We do we do a lot of world news. Sharing alternative ideas with friends and family who only listen to the mainstream media is priceless. What you guys do is priceless. I wish I could give you more money but I have to live in the American dream of just getting by also I listen every show

1:01:45 Live or on the day of the show most shows I listen to twice. Thanks for keeping it hard to believe Thanks for keeping me informed like no other media source can please give you the classic climate gate jingle and some relationship karma Karma John C. DeVore continues his fast reading extravaganza. Shane Lindholm in North Aurora, Illinois 26969 you are both on such a roll that I...

1:02:22 Had to show my appreciation in greater ways than my usual monthly donation, which I have to increase. Great job and continue to report what no one else ever will! Oh thank you that makes me proud Soon to fully open my family's eyes Good luck with that Keith Jacobson Phoenixville Pennsylvania $200 and he sent a handwritten note in longhand with the check Dear John and Adam Keep... The way it says keep looks like cup Keep up the great work and please send me some karma for my fledgling mechanical contracting business. After proving too intelligent for my last job, I'm taking a foray into self-employment." Ta da! Okay? Okay. Good luck with that definitely. Karma for that always encouraged. You've got karma

1:03:15 That concludes our executive producer segment of show 618. I want to remind people that we do have a show on Thursday coming up, I'll be in Detroit. Adam will remain in Japan which will make it a very interesting show to say the least go to depart.org slash NA channel devorek dot com slash na no agenda showed calm or no agenda nation dot com and click on the donate button. You know it's kind of sucks because you'll be in Detroit and you know we won't have the option of paid priority to make sure that our connection is right on because all packets have to be equal. Yeah, it's ruining the show! I wonder why somebody hadn't told Minyon about this problem? Quick PR mention there's a... and i'll play the song at the end of the show Hogg of group Short Fuse

1:04:07 Says, hey I made this song years ago after Adam asked for a rap song. Then he made his own rap song on the very next episode... Anyway, I'm an avid listener in Sacramento California have never donated i'm a very broke musician and construction worker but love your show Have him put the song on iTunes because I don't think you'll play it But if you like it, I'll make it available ASAP and throw you some long-deserved loot If by chance you like this song, call out Dubby Dave my brother and myself Hogg both of the rap group Short Fuse as Delta Bravo. Yes! Okay Delta Bravo would be... AKA Douchebags So this is going to be on iTunes just a quick little sample

1:04:48 I got no agenda when it comes to these tracks Rapid rails, no conspiracy theory, I'm spitting facts Let them do the research Back in with some C-SPAN Expose the memes, won't you bow to your kings? As they bless you with knighthood TSA is grabbing ball sacks from the back to make your flight good Actually, they're spitting some badass rhymes about us so I'll play that. The TSA's grabbing ball sacks from the back? From behind yeah. From behind. Hey-o! And thank you all very much, our executive producers and associate executive producers. These are of course real credits and are on the spot donations from our Tokyo...from our Japan-based producers It is all highly appreciated of course and these credits are good wherever credits are accepted. For the show on Thursday as John said please help us out!

1:05:45 And of course if you want to try it, you can always go out there and propagate our formula. Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. It's funny today Dame Astrid's daughter took us out And she's 12. She knows the subway system and the trains like the back of her hand, of course she also has... Nice! Yeah but she also has a you know as she knows how to use the Google Maps and everything and she speaks fluent Japanese and fluent English and what took us both to Akihabara where the ham radio stores are

1:06:42 Yeah, all this yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. I tell you didn't predict exactly your reaction oh my god Yes, I said Mickey took pictures of me just freaking out There was still nothing but ham radio. The other reaction I predicted which is did you do this one? Which is why can't we get this in the United States? Yeah, no there were some yeah also those little alleyways where you could just buy every component and imagine that's what they used to sell the bootleg style anyway You know it so this kid is amazing You know, just... May I sing? Taking us all over the but we had lunch at this at the old railway station in Akihabara. I don't know if i'm pronouncing that right. This is Akihabara. Akihabara that's right thank you. Akihabara um so the the old railway station which is from 1912 they've converted that into stores and a restaurant and so you're eating

1:07:41 You're having, and you can only choose from three things on the menu. And then you're sitting there and then trains are going by on either side It's just quite bizarre We went into the game arcade which is kind of like Pachinko Hall but for kids Yeah they start them early Oh yeah oh man There's five floors of noise Just insane noise But it was funny at a certain point she just starts spouting off stuff She's like Hey! I think Mickey said shut up or something to me. She says, don't you have to say slave after that? Shut Up Slave! Apparently Dame Astrid listens to the show in the mornings and before she goes to school so she always hears the shut-up slave bit just before she has to leave but it was pretty fascinating today No that would be good i'm gonna see those photos Have you ever seen the traditional candy making

1:08:43 I don't know if i have not yeah on Santa Cruz boardwalk to make taffy with some crazy machine that stretches the sugar No, but you're talking about no. Yeah they do it by hand All right Bob Washington's like we've got we got pictures We'll put the pictures up anyway a lot of people here are talking about The Vietnam Chinese Situation is that of course as interesting what's happening here and in the Asian regions? Well, what about it? Tell me. Because I do have a clip that actually has a little bit of this...

1:09:19 Well, people are... well of course so right now what's happening is the Vietnamese are just going nuts about the Chinese invading their territorial water with big oil rigs. And of course as we discussed on Thursday Abe, is he prime minister? Prime Minister of Japan I think, right? Is he the president or prime minister? He's prime minister, I believe. He is now trying... You can look him up! Look him up while you talk. Yeah please do that. I'm sure he's prime minister. They don't use these same models in some of these operations, these parliaments. So he is trying to change Article 9 of the Constitution here which will allow Japan to create war machinery again and build an army and go to war and obviously America likes this

1:10:13 So the thing that is being said here is, wow this is very interesting. How come America is not jumping all over China like they're doing with Russia in Ukraine? Where's the help? Why aren't they doing that now we got an email from one of our producers... If you want to go in that direction after you have read the email I do have The Cohen Collection Oh good yeah this good perfect Which will talk about exactly this issue Yes from one of our producers who requested to remain anonymous. International schools are being closed, students being sent home... My kids' school that mostly have Korean kids have had their houses attacked number of persons from Taiwan China and Korea in Vietnam

1:11:03 Okay, Taiwan China Korea are moving to hotels in Saigon many waiting for free flights to leave some driving to the Cambodian border To cross into Cambodia lots of international non-asian firms are asking staff to take leave pulling managers out of Vietnam shoe guys like Adidas are pulling staff out of Vietnam this so this is serious business And it's not just the Chinese that they're angry at they're just the Vietnamese are just pissed and Well, luckily we do have on channel 60 in the Bay Area which has international fees a Vietnamese news outlet which I will now record. Okay let's get to your clips because it looks like you got a lot of things here. I have a bunch of clips and that Professor Cohen who is the guy that is go-to guy now concluded that he's representing the Soviet Union or Soviet Union yeah the Soviet Union he's representing Russia

1:12:00 I believe he's a Russian. Well, he is a professor of again But he's a professor of Russian studies Yeah And he lives in Russia a lot and I think he hits most of this stuff on the money Yeah, but he talks about let's play I do have a play this This is the Carrie pre Cohen bitching about Russia clip Okie-dokie It's very hard to reconcile that Russia is now making the argument that Ukraine ought to reduce and not have an election or postpone an election because of the violence that's taking place. But Russia is full whole hog behind having an election in Syria where there is far worse violence." Well, those bastards! Yeah, Syria... so yeah right well he did this is not this is Kerry

1:12:50 And now this next clip was Cohen discussing that specific clip. He was on the... By the way, there's one two three four five six of these Cohen clips some of them are short but this was on Democracy Now! Believe me I had to do a lot of work to get these down and he was on for 45 minutes. Yeah well the guy is good though and i don't understand we thought he would be killed Yeah, I thought he'd be killed by now. But here he is commenting this is Kerry Cohen on Kerry's comment on Kerry's little discussion there That was Kerry that was Kerry who has now become Secretary of War not Secretary of State He supposed to be a diplomat

1:13:28 And I don't recall in the last two weeks him uttering a word about any kind of diplomacy. Why he's so embattled, I don't know. I don't know when he made that statement but let's remember what Putin said was it last Thursday because this clip that you showed may be a little out of date. Putin said, and it's very important Russia had been opposed to the presidential election in Ukraine on the 25th That's what two weeks from yesterday I think He spoke on Tuesday This was him speaking on... I think this is a lot of date Because on Thursday I believe Putin said essentially this You want to have a so-called presidential election in Ukraine

1:14:10 It is a crazy idea, but please go ahead. We won't interfere and it is a crazy idea may I say why? It's a bad idea Now remember we've drawn a new red line. We've said to Russia if you interfere in any way with this presidential election in Ukraine We will impose more sanctions on you So that election is very important to the United States because we want to bestow some legitimacy on the unelected government in Kiev by giving an elected president or What kind of election, Amy can take place in Eastern Ukraine? Because it's supposed to be a national election. Western and Eastern Central. What kind of election can take place while Kievian tanks are firing on East Ukrainian cities? Now you could say well they'll stop firing on the day of election but what is going to be the impact on East Ukrainians particularly since they have no candidate

1:15:04 Their parties have are on the run The two candidates who? Proposed to represent Eastern Ukraine in the national election Two weeks ago went to a TV studio like this one In Kiev to participate in national debate and were beaten up in the streets before they could enter the building This is a presidential election We should try oh Yeah, I was gonna say we should try that here Beating up the candidates, that's a good idea. Elizabeth Warren should be beaten up... By the way before you move on I just wanted to mention in the show notes I have the full text of Senate Bill 2277 and the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 which essentially no matter what happens we're gonna surround these guys Yeah well until they give up Snowden but that is my theory

1:16:03 Yeah, that's a reasonable theory. Let's resume Cohen complaining this part two of his elections screed So, what's more likely to happen if this election happens is it will be a step toward the further partition of Ukraine. Because the president elected will be the president of Kiev, Western Ukraine and parts of Central Ukraine and he or she because there is woman candidate I don't think she has chance will not be recognized by eastern and southern Ukraine. And that has absolutely nothing to do with Putin, so that will be a step toward partition If you really want to solve the problem You go back To the European Union proposal in February That you have elections in December You give everybody six seven months chance to organize and you have parliamentary elections as well because

1:16:59 The United States is right. Democratic theory's right, the essence of democratic government is not a president but a parliament You need a new parliament. They've got to run parliament and they need a new constitution A president can't enact the new constitution in Ukraine, you need some sort of constitutional assembly Why are they rushing till May? And the only reason is that United States wants to give some legitimacy To this government in Kiev But I think any political scientist Any constitutional lawyer would tell you gotta wait He's a constitutional lawyer! So he's making good points again. He...there's like, go either way actually let's do this little side clip when he mentions Kissinger apparently has been in the news making some noise and and he establishes a very interesting point here when he talks about Kissinger

1:17:53 and this whole Ukrainian situation, you might want to play that. We used to have a lot of so-called senior statesmen wise men wise women the president's turned into an emergency I can't think of one whom Obama turns to now you've got Henry Kissinger think what you will about his past but he sees Putin personally alone two times a year they talk Kissinger comes from Europe, from Germany. He understands what's going on he is preaching a course of negotiation and Obama though Kissinger... my understanding is before it may be wrong Obama has declined to see Kissinger why in this crisis when we can imagine war with Russia would you not want to spend an hour with Kissinger? Oh yeah because Obama wouldn't know what to say! He doesn't understand what's going on and this is not his move

1:18:42 I think... And Kissinger would say you're being used by the neocons. Yeah, and but i'm a little surprised Cohen doesn't just say hey it's because Obama really is not running this show It's Kerry who's being run by neocons and the Yalies Through the 45 minutes he never actually came out and said that But he kept Does a lot of innuendo and he kind of suggests certain things that the next one which is Cohen on the roundtable He puts it. He's leaving it up to the listener to get suspicious instead of just coming right out and say what we do The false statement he made And the premise on which American policy has been made is that Putin? attacked Ukraine and began this whole mess whatever you think

1:19:30 about what the outcome should be. That is just factually untrue All of this began when the United States and Europe asked Ukraine back last November to make a decision between Russia and the European Union that triggered the protests that led to this Here's the tragedy People are dying when there's a perfectly accessible way to negotiate. And it is not my idea, it's the idea proposed by Angela Merkel of Germany that there be around table and Putin in Ukraine of all the conflicting Ukrainian forces that would be West Ukraine, Kiev Eastern Ukraine and Putin said few days ago on that famous statement where he said he pulled troops back

1:20:15 and we say he's lying, then somebody said we gotta wait for the satellite pictures. He said I just talked to Merkel and Merkel says there should be a roundtable in Ukraine of all the combatants in Ukraine. And he said I agree let's do this so Russia wants these negotiations inside Ukraine Germany most powerful nation in Europe wants them EU wants them Washington is silent what is going on? Yeah well That's because this is not being run from Washington. Well, he makes that pretty clear at least not 1600p He goes a little bit uh stray to discuss something which I clipped for the specific reason that i

1:20:57 realize that what he's talking about is something I remember as a kid and has been completely wiped out of American history or holidays and everything in between. And now, like suspicious about it because it isn't a minor occurrence or a minor event but play Cohen on VE Day. Nothing, I didn't say anything but since you stopped it. I want to mention something else This is in he's really discussing when Putin on VE day Which is May 8th or 9th went to crime what would not explain what vee day? Is that a winner in Europe days when the Nazis were defeated

1:21:34 And which used to be a holiday in the United States. We had two holidays, one was VJ Day and VE day and VE day which was then called V-Day changed because we dropped the other one and then they dropped them both that we don't celebrate either one of these things we could you know it used have Armistice Day too which is also done Cohen is talking about when Putin went to Crimea, all our news outlets. Oh he went to Crimea just so as to rile up the some I don't know there was a bunch of poor reporting on it but he went there specifically for this holiday and play this. Of our whole country as year when all the citizens here people resolutely decided together with Russia That's Russian President Vladimir Putin in Crimea Friday Professor Stephen Cohen

1:22:22 I have a flashback, not exactly like this but when i was a kid growing up in Kentucky and Indiana we had something called VE Day. Victory In Europe day that's what Russia calls victory day it represents the victory over Nazi Germany in Europe We seem not to do VE Day in this country anymore unless Spielberg and Hanks make movie about World War II May 9th, it was May 8 in America because of time difference is the most sacred secular holiday. I've been going and living in Russia for 40 or 50 years. It's true that the government, going back to the communists and carrying through Putin manipulate this holiday it is absolutely true for their own political purposes but this is one holiday that 95% 90 percent of Russians feel on their hearts its deeply meaningful even though it was almost 70 year after World War II And it's meaningful because when we say 27.5 million Soviet citizens died

1:23:24 defeating Nazi Germany in Europe. And it was the Russians who defeated, the Soviets who defeated Nazi Germany in Europe that means that virtually every family in Russia lost somebody whom they still mourned Putin was tapping into this on May 9th, but it's authentic. It's meaningful and my when I look at these films i remember that tells us how different our two countries are we no longer memorialize World War II except for Hollywood movies whereas for Russia its just a sacred holiday. Oh we barely memorialized Iraq! We let our veterans die waiting for treatment please... Well I guess that is some sort of memorializing. We're so pathetic

1:24:09 Sad. Makes me mad. Yeah, I thought it was weird and then the last clip which is the one where he's discussing the tanks in the eastern part of the country of Ukraine now this you know listen to all that this together you realize that this is a manipulated situation we're behind probably all of it and He talks about Newland and all the rest of these people over there screwing things up But does he call her noodleman? No, he does not call her noodleman which is a huge blunder. But here he is on the war crimes thing and again you know he does this subtle pointing of the finger but never really comes out and says what we say. The context of what has happened since the Kiev government now let our viewers be clear this Kiev government

1:24:58 that came to power without legality. You can accept it or not accept it, but is the government that has embraced 100% by Washington and by Europe It's our government This government sent troops to eastern Ukraine That seems about 10-15 thousand maybe not that many But tanks, armored personnel carrier heavy artillery with helicopters flying over What government sends tanks into a city when there's nothing happening in the city that provokes you. And here is the second part of this story, and personally it outrages me I don't know how your viewers and listeners think what did the United States government say? Did it say we regret the loss of life? Did they say there should be investigation? No! It said Kiev has the right to restore law and order Now, I would stretch this out if a war crime was committed in Odessa

1:25:52 by the burning of 40 people to death in a building, and by tanks entering the streets of Mariupol or any other city. If that's a war crime we didn't commit it but we applauded it and there is something wrong there no matter who's right and wrong in this dispute. Yeah, and if the American public were informed at all they would probably agree with the professor. No we wouldn't put up with it. The American public...the way you deal with them is you keep them uninformed, you bring up the net neutrality thing give that front page and let this background go on with these neocons who have been screwing in the American taxpayer of nothing else for over probably 20 years

1:26:39 Unbelievable. Let me read a few, just an abbreviated version of the Senate Bill 2277 which may be cited as the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 and this is where we're headed. This clearly spells out what the next steps are so I'm just going to give you the table of contents if there's something you want to dive into we can do that Reinvigorating the NATO alliance, strengthening United States assistance and force posture in Europe and Eurasia. United States efforts to strengthen NATO alliance expand the support for Poland and the Baltic states Accelerating implementation of European and NATO missile defense efforts Strengthening united states-german cooperation on global and european security issues

1:27:28 deterring further Russian aggression in Europe. United States policy towards Russian aggression in Europe, sanctions to address continuing aggression of the Russian Federation toward Ukraine additional sanctions in the event of increased aggression by the Russian Federation towards Ukraine and other countries which is all the banks now Limitation on Russian access to United States oil and gas technology. Diplomatic measures with respect to the Russian Federation, support for Russian democracy and civil society organizations. That's a big one by the way! Yep that's the NGOs that's all the bullcrap riot in riot Organizations. Hardening Ukraine and other European and Eurasian states against Russian aggression, which involves military assistance for Ukraine, sense of Congress on intelligent sharing with Ukraine, major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine Georgia and Moldova expanding security force training assistance and defense cooperation with key non NATO States is essentially

1:28:29 the making states who are not NATO into NATO by extension. Expediting national and natural gas exports, European and Eurasian energy independence, Crimea annexation non-recognition support for democracy and civil society organizations in countries of the former Soviet Union there we go again that's another one of those lovely ones! And expanding broadcasting in countries of the Soviet...of the former Soviet Union Hello, this is the voice of Russia. We are here to tell you what was going on your Putin money's news very very bad. It's very bad Do not trust him trust all the American Yankees I Like that place You like that voice? This is the voice of Russia Russia now we play some songs for you from Backstreet Boys Backstreet boys very very nice boys from America a very good place to be

1:29:27 I could, somewhere in between Dracula and... They should hire me. Yeah they yeah i'm surprised don't get voiceover work Coming to you from the top of the Kremlin this is the voice of Russia Meanwhile um underreported but uh almost over reported in alternative media Wait wait wait before you continue Yes what is wrong my comrade John what is wrong? Who are the sponsors of the bill One moment, I have to open up text again. Yeah, it's late here that's why I forgot to do that hold on sponsors of the bill Let me let's see who do you think well? John McCain would be on my shortlist oh well duh mr.. Corker Mr.. McConnell ms.. Aote

1:30:20 Mr. Hooven, Kelly who's in the McCain Club? Yep well mr.. Blunt this is alphabetical oh no it's not I guess mr Rubio mr. McCain mr. Cronin McCain Corning mr. Corn of course mr. Graham mr. Kirk mr. Barrasso Okay, yeah the douchebag mr. Reesh mr. Coates mr. Roberts mr. Inhofe mr. Portman mr Alexander mr. Thune mr Isaacson mr. Hatch another one mr. Flake mr Johnson of Wisconsin Please welcome, please welcome Mr. Johnson of Wisconsin on the wheels of steel everybody here in voice of Russia! Okay I'm gonna sidetrack this a little bit just to put McCain back into the picture here so they had a commerce committee had a meeting about a new term i'd never heard this term before but they're talking about malvertising

1:31:08 Malvertising? Maldvertizing. Maldvertizing! Wait a minute, comrade John what is this malvertizing you speak of? It's malwarevertizing. It's malware plus advertising making maldvertizing Making malvertizing... This sounds very good it sounds like a NATO complot against Russian Federation So in fact... It's something I like doing about it. You can back it off, okay? You can bring it back in when you feel like but just writing for now let me just get these three clips out of the way because these are short and they make the point is very interesting listening to John McCain is such a douchebag I'm going to point out a couple of very interesting things he does here first that's really great that he does what he does which is

1:31:58 He's got three people that testifying in front of this group of one of these commerce the Malverde malvert eyes advertising guys So they had a guy from Yahoo who had eyeballs one way it was half closed and one was up and down a call with Google get your eye straight The yahoo guy, and he looked like Charlie chase if anyone here remembers that character Oh And then there was a google guy who was just a just a bald round-headed little like an accountant guy and then there's some guy from some organization I never heard of. And he was talking about how bad those guys from Google and Yahoo were, So it starts off with McCain just giving these guys grief especially this is going after the Google guy who apparently is just gonna disagree with everything. Yeah, I disagree that its going up no I disagree It's going down and in then you do makes a fool of the clown of this guy with his first pip which is McCain versus Google Guy Thank You Mr Chairman I thank the witnesses

1:32:52 If you put that chart back up about the increase in mal-advertising, would the witnesses agree that the problem is getting worse rather than better? Would you agree Mr. Salamon? I would not. Um, I would not agree Could you put your microphone a little closer please? Thank you That will help I don't agree that the problem is getting better One thing that- Is it getting worse? I'm sorry its not uh thank you um I dont believe its getting worse You dont believe that chart then? Um I have not seen that chart I saw from the report Our indication where we actually So your saying that chart is inaccurate

1:33:37 That's not the chart, that's not the information I have. Sir? I see maybe you can provide the committee with that... With the information you have Mr Stamos. Sir our data has been pretty much steady on the kinds of attempts we've seen coming inbound. What is this? I need a definition of malvertising! Malvertising is these if you go and you there's an ad, and you click on it And the next thing you know you're on a page that's downloading a virus or its its talk. It's malware malware. It's malware Why is McCain? Why is this why is McCain spending his time talking to these guys about this who cares what does it What is the point of this?

1:34:19 Good, you walked right into that one. Well, Blake clipped to... It's called the show John, this is where we do things together. Attempts that we've seen coming inbound. Would you agree that these probably the worst attacks come from overseas specifically Russia? Wait a minute. I thought it was China! You stepped on the line, you stepped on it say play the end again He said Russia Yeah he said Russia No no I didn't step on it Now now the guy that part three thats where he jumps to shark Now McCain turns into a dick and I want to point out something here wait a minute he turns into a dick? Im sorry what am I thinking What is wrong with you? Im sorry It was a huge blunder McCain now

1:35:07 goes back to his dickish nature and he starts to harass these guys. And the one guy makes the point, and I'm gonna make the point is that most of the crap that really is bad comes from all places which never mentioned Ukraine In fact, if you talk to the FBI or anybody about this and they're investigating a lot of these problems that are online. As soon as they see the Ukraine IP address they stop investigating because they can do nothing! You cannot get into Ukraine to catch any criminals that are dealing with this and it's always about Ukraine now The one guy... I'm just gonna give you kind of a clue on what he's going to say He is gonna say well yeah a lot of it comes from Eastern Europe former

1:35:52 Soviet Union countries, but McCain doesn't hear any of that. It's all Russia and Russia is not the bad actor here But but he's making this point again Again This is part of this giant scheme because I'm maybe the only one who thinks this because of Snowden We see attacks from all around. It's usually very difficult to have accurate, to accurately figure out... Oh so you have no accurate data as to where it comes from? That's good! We have accurate data as toward the IP address. Well then where does it come from? We see these kinds of attempts from all around the world. Well, you're right we do see a lot from Eastern Europe in the former Russian Republics well Thank you for that how about you mr.. Salem? Yes, we also see a lot of the malware itself will come from servers that are also You know in Russia and also so this is really an international issue as well as a domestic issue I would argue

1:36:48 Suppose that some individual is the victim of malware. Mr Stamos, does Yahoo have any responsibility for that? We absolutely take responsibility for user safety which is why we do all the work we do to prevent... So someone loses their bank account you reimburse them? No, it's perfect. Now he the other guy that Google guy who was already being badgered He he's the one who coughed up Russia when they do the other guy wouldn't do it The yahoo guys says no It's Eastern Europe for former Russian, you know They wouldn't say Ukraine because I'm sure they were told not to and meanwhile then and and McNeil

1:37:31 McCain is such a dick with these guys and maybe it's warranted in some manner because they're just talking in gibberish and buzz terms. Well, you know clearly these things are always set up and he had his shield He was probably being a dick because the guys weren't playing along were just repeating the Russia Russia Russia mean Yeah And that's why when the Google guy said Russia he went right back to the Yahoo! Guy and started haranguing him again Right Because he wasn't playing ball. Yeah, so that's what's going on in Congress. I'm sure you saw this and I just want a big mention of it because quite honestly, I just slipped my mind to mention it on Thursday younger son of Vice President Joseph Biden has taken the position of member of the board of directors and legal advisor to Burisma Holdings Limited, the largest private natural gas production company in Ukraine

1:36:48 Suppose that some individual is the victim of malware. Mr Stamos, does Yahoo have any responsibility for that? We absolutely take responsibility for user safety which is why we do all the work we do to prevent... So someone loses their bank account you reimburse them? No, it's perfect. Now he the other guy that Google guy who was already being badgered He he's the one who coughed up Russia when they do the other guy wouldn't do it The yahoo guys says no It's Eastern Europe for former Russian, you know They wouldn't say Ukraine because I'm sure they were told not to and meanwhile then and and McNeil

1:37:31 McCain is such a dick with these guys and maybe it's warranted in some manner because they're just talking in gibberish and buzz terms. Well, you know clearly these things are always set up and he had his shield He was probably being a dick because the guys weren't playing along were just repeating the Russia Russia Russia mean Yeah And that's why when the Google guy said Russia he went right back to the Yahoo! Guy and started haranguing him again Right Because he wasn't playing ball. Yeah, so that's what's going on in Congress. I'm sure you saw this and I just want a big mention of it because quite honestly, I just slipped my mind to mention it on Thursday younger son of Vice President Joseph Biden has taken the position of member of the board of directors and legal advisor to Burisma Holdings Limited, the largest private natural gas production company in Ukraine

1:38:24 Hunter Biden, now here's the cool one joins another American who recently became a director of the firm Devon Archer. Do you know who Devin Archer is? No you got me on this one this is a good catch Top fundraiser for Secretary of State John Kerry during his 2004 presidential bid and college roommate of Kerry stepson So it doesn't play so well when you've got the sons of the two top douchebags running the show. Well, actually Biden not running anything but he is the pretty boy who has to show up and give everyone an attaboy

1:39:02 They're capitalizing on Ukraine. They're shameless! This would never happen 20 or 30 years ago. Shameless is exactly the right word. Because The New York Times, the Washington Post they'd be all over this with editorials These people are shameless because they can get away with anything they want to do I think that's the way Hillary is running because she knows there are nothing but problems with that Clinton library and its support by the Saudi government, and all the illegal campaign contributions that were probably funneled to Bill when he was running for president from the Saudis who we supported in every way possible. But she is thinking now, eh who cares? Nobody is going to give a crap about Bill and his corrupt politics! I might not even have to kill him!

1:39:51 Wait, you can't change the Red Book just yet. I'm just mentioning... Yeah she could... She might have to pass through the brain and we might not have to kill him. Uma! Uma! Uma! We might not have to kill him! That's funny. I like that. But of course this is ramping up on all sides. We have the United Nations now coming with an alarming, alarming document about the alarming deterioration of human rights in Eastern Ukraine... Of course! Of course human rights yes, of course What else do we have? Well the Friends of Syria... Screw it. Screw all these guys Actually I did have one little Kerry thing

1:40:41 He is trying... so you know, it's a twofer. We still got to do something with Syria because no matter what we now have the ISIL or whatever it's called there in Eastern Syria And things are calming down there. I don't know what we're gonna do, this is a bad trend for us Oh no no here's what you do... I have seen evidence uh i don't know how verified it's not verified yet hasn't been uh-huh um but i've seen evidence the secretary of war right But I've seen the raw data that suggests... Raw data? ...that there may have been, as Francis suggested a number of instances in which chlorine has been used in the conduct of war. Now hold on a second he says I have seen evidence raw data that suggests chlorine has been used and if it has If it has And if could be proven Which we're working on

1:41:42 then that would be against the agreements of the Chemical Weapons Treaty and against the weapons convention that Syria has signed up to. And that would be reason for us to... So his job, John, his job now is to gear this thing up because Obama failed or Or actually Obama dropped the ball. Dropped the ball and now it's like, hey, hey Kerry! Hey dude listen up we gotta get Syria we're losing face here If it is proven that chlorine was used as a chemical in war which is prohibited what will the Syrian government face? What steps can you take? Ooh...what do you think the answer wil be? Except bomb them

1:42:28 It has been made clear by President Obama and others that use would result in consequences. We're not going to pin ourselves down to a precise time, date or manner of action But there will be consequences if it were to be proven, including I might say things that are way beyond our control and have nothing do with us. But the International Criminal Court and others are free to hold him accountable. And as you know we have a resolution all of a sudden we're all in on the International Criminal Court. That's right. The United Nations with respect to culpability for crimes against humanity atrocities in the course of this conflict

1:43:14 So, uh... one way or the other. We'll go- One way or the other? WE'RE GONNA GO BOMB EM! There will be accountability. Accountability?! Yeah This guy I mean we gotta go on record, but just have to say this guy is a horrible man and the worst thing is he believes he's doing the right thing. I don't know what he believes. Uh... I find that the guy to be He should- This is terrible This guy's not a diplomat. He has not done anything diplomatic, I think Cohen has that right. He is just a saber-rattling secretary of war and this is nonsense! And we know that the Syrians never had caches of chlorine gas which was very old fashioned poison gas they had the new modern stuff

1:44:08 which is all being hauled away and I'm sure they'd like to blow up a couple of those canisters but i'm sure the Russians are keeping a good eye on it so that doesn't happen. And so they've dreamed up, they made somebody have somebody manufacture some chlorine gas which you can do in your kitchen by the way. It's not that difficult with some chlorox. Yes we'll put a recipe in the show notes which we won't do, but you can do it and you can look it up. But just beside the point this is like such a phony deal this is desperation making stuff at the end and claiming that there's gassing because they found probably some evidence that chlorine was used somewhere and they didn't extrapolate that. The French guys are all in on this. The French and Americans want to do this for some reason. There's something afoot

1:44:56 Meanwhile, this guy I think Bush here is going to be fine. He's gonna be pissed! Well i don't know exactly what's gonna happen but it's clear that they're trying to go the NATO-UN route so he has a resolution and And we just need to get some proof and once you get... But the proof thing, it always falls flat because these UN reports they talk to people on Skype and then they talked to the guy who's the Syrian observation center there in London. One guy in a flat in London

1:45:33 You know, we've talked about him and then that's their proof. And no one... it's not enough for anyone to buy it you know? You've got to have look- They could do better let's put it this way they could do a much better job of setting this guy up than they're doing. They need they need to do the baby's incubator thing! No one cares! They're too busy worrying about Netflix buffering. You need some real outreach I'm telling you gays This is so obvious. If Bashar al-Assad was killing gays, you'd have an outreach! You would have people getting pissed off! Or dogs. Dogs are pretty good too. Stray dogs. Gotta get the stray dogs in there. Hey wait a couple of proclamations... We need balance. We got a couple of proclamations that I'd like to talk about this has been a crazy month for proclamation presidential proclamations

1:46:24 First of all, a continuation of the national emergency with respect to Burma. That has been signed into the federal register because of course Burma is so dangerous to our national security which just means... The only reason we're doing that is because the Chinese are pipelining through Burma So that's why we need to have a national emergency in case you need to blow something up, drone something, you know, some terrorists near the pipeline President's Proclamation, 60th anniversary of Brown vs. Board of Education... you know what that is right? That was the segregation in schools. Desegregation. Desegregation. President's Proclamation World Trade Week 2014

1:47:09 Commercial ties build partnerships between nations and spur growth across the world. Here in America, trade bolsters our small business which makes up 98% of our exporters and create nearly two out of three every three new jobs during World Trade Week we celebrate these benefits We redouble our efforts to promote trade while protecting workers safeguarding the environment and opening markets to new goods stamped made Made in The USA That of course is all about the trade agreements that we're working on Armed Forces Day, which was on May 16th by presidential proclamation. Did we celebrate? No! Did you even know it was armed forces day? No I didn't know. VE day passed me by and... This generation has distinguished itself on mission after mission tour after tour because of their heroism The core of Al Qaeda is severely degraded and our homeland is more secure Okay then we have

1:48:09 Presidential Proclamation Emergency Medical Services Week. Wherever and whenever crisis hits, the men and women of our emergency medical services EMS rush to the scene with unyielding steadiness they bring care to those who need it most during Emergency Medical Services week we show our gratitude to the EMS practitioners who aid our families friends and neighbors in their darkest moments Now, we have several EMS and other emergency services people who listen to the show. And 90... Yes, and 90% of their work is spent showing up to people who call 911 — you cannot refuse a 911 call — and usually these people are like, hey can you get my smokes from the table there? I'm too weak to get up." This is a fact by presidential proclamation it is also National Safe Boating Week!

1:49:02 You didn't know that either, did you? Yeah. When you do this segment I'm always befuddled because you're right...I don't know any of this! During National Safe Boating Week we also recognize the crucial work of the United States Coast Guard to prevent boating accidents that claim lives cause injuries and damage property We thank their partners across the nation And we're getting down to the wire here. This is the most important one, I think and i think this can be used... We have a new meme! This was for yesterday 10th International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia This is new to me! Transphobia

1:49:45 First, I would like to explain the word phobia. Whenever you have a phobia... A phobia is literally an irrational fear of something. Yeah, irrational fear. I thought this word was appropriated improperly from the get-go. I've never liked the homophobia nomenclature. Homo hatred? There's all kinds of ways of putting it but generally speaking it's not a fear It's a dislike or hatred or prejudice, or bigot. Or disagreement? Or disagreements...a lot of different things but yeah, of course everything is now homophobic and transphobic because again appropriating the phobia word...it's not a sub... But also trans I feel that the capture, the hijacking of the word trans

1:50:44 is somewhat offensive. Transphobia, it would... transportation? transmission? There's a lot of transes but now trans is just transsexual as we commemorate the 10th ann- It's not transvestite! Well that would fall under trans But that's not meant here. Tenth annual International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia, we recommit ourselves to the fundamental belief that all people should be treated equally... ...that they should have the opportunity to reach their fullest potential and no one should face violence or discrimination no matter who they are OR JOHN! Yeah? Who they love. Oh. Gotta get-get that in there. Ahem. Yep

1:51:30 At a time when, tragically we are seeing increased effort to criminalize or oppress LGBT persons. Yeah like your buddies there in Qatar your buddies in Saudi Arabia every place you went Nigeria Uganda yeah go to... How come we've never done it said at word one about that? We call on partners everywhere Only our show brings this up! That's because we are not transphobic We are truly, we truly are the only media outlet that I know of that talks openly and honestly about the issues of LGBTQQIAAP. The only... you can't... I defy anyone! Show me! Trouble in Paradise John. Trouble in paradise And I am of course referring to the 250 million dollar web blog known as First Look The Intercept

1:52:34 Trouble in Paradise, Marcy Wheeler quit. Yeah she just got the job why did she quit? She won't say! Well that by the way discredits her enormously in my book but I think she's actually afraid...I think she is truly afraid to say what's wrong and what's happening and hey ladies and gentlemen these people this thing is dead. Grant Greenwald don't ruff he is not talking about it of course How hypocritical that, you know... he won't retweet anything or say oh yeah here's what's going on. This thing is falling apart and something really really bad is going on and Greenwald wants to get out And it's messed up and he's gonna do everything he can I'm convinced of it He's going to everything he can to avoid the whole thing. He's not even gonna write for them anymore It all began when they brought the guy in from The Gawker

1:53:33 The guy who says we're not gonna hire whites. That's what he said! We need black people! We're not going to hire any more white, because we've got enough whites. No whites and by the way, no content. What are they waiting for? They have a crap load of writers, they don't need to hire anybody at all to be honest about it. They got a crap load of guys that could be producing something and there's enough of them that could fill up this thing very easily by just cutting them loose but they... So what's happening now- It's weird! Actually weird Oh because its exactly what we said it would be

1:54:12 It was...the whole idea was to silence these people, to fix Pierre DriveMyCar's reputation. Particularly when it comes to his involvement in paying for what's going on in Ukraine for his jihad against Wikileaks and eBay and PayPal. It's messy! And it's going to hurt these people's careers. Now, Grinnell Greenwald don't ruff this guy I mean, dude stop with the... Stop! Just go back and write some stuff. Do something." Now he has this movie and he's all giddy that Sony is purchased which doesn't mean there's a movie by the way they just purchase the rights but Sony if you go back and look at his writing he accused Sony of actually some of the same executives A.B Pascal Doug Belgrad

1:55:08 And the team at Sony Pictures Entertainment, he accused them of producing the ultimate hagiography when they made Zero Dark Thirty. But now of course it's The Gren Greenwald movie and he says oh it's all good now! Oh he doesn't talk about how we hated them then... hypocritical douchebag and here's a Glenn Greenwald all giddy with Jake Tapper there talking about the movie. So Glenn Greenwald who is playing you, who is playing Edward Snowden in the movie version? There are all kinds of speculation I'm going to leave that to Twitter for most part He has an erection John he actually has an election

1:55:46 He's so happy about this. The leading names that I've seen are Jared Leto for Edward Snowden, with whom i'm not really familiar... Oh! I'm sorry he only won an Academy Award this year Glenn? For Dallas Buyers Club you're not familiar with his work but you know he doesn't give a shit because it's about who is playing him. ...really familiar and Edward Norton has been mentioned alot for me but... Yes but I am much more handsome than Edward Norton He was also on Charlie Rose with the same spiel. Oh, did you get a clip? No I didn't get a clip because i find that Greenwald is extremely hard to clip because he has run-on sentences... Why does anyone think this movie's going to be interesting

1:56:35 Why does anyone think it's gonna be? It's not interesting. It's like the WikiLeaks movie, fail! No one cares! The WikiLeaks movie was terrible and there is no drama there I mean it's just a bunch of guys... There IS NO DRAMA and Glenn Greenwald... Except for this Snowden story could be kind by itself could be turned into something if you had some good writers, the Nolan brothers or somebody. Yeah I think you could make it but fictionalize and it would not say the real story. The real story's boring! Yeah exactly anyway this Greenwald is...I can't take another thing serious that he writes And here's another thing that needs to stop calling out his colleagues

1:57:22 You know, this is a good way to have to go back to becoming a lawyer man because you're not gonna get hired anywhere with this type of attitude. He's got this mighty how holier than thou and this whole drive my car thing is falling apart no one's gonna say he's gonna be the most hated man and it's all complete... It's boomerang when you've had this- Go ahead I brought this story up in the show about two or three months ago which is that I don't know this for a fact But listening to him talk, I sense it's possible that he is never...he wasn't a professional writer when he began. And when he went to the Guardian, I'm convinced that the reason The Guardian didn't make a big fuss about keeping him because that's what you'd wanna do because he's a big moneymaker for the paper was because his opinion they asked to edit. He probably questions...I know some of these writers

1:58:13 He may not put together a good argument. He may structurally be weak, and so they have to work on it for him because he can't write well just theoretically. And then when they start to mess with his copy, he makes a big fuss! There's nothing worse than a writer that won't let you edit him because it's like oh no, you can't do that because I wanted to use this way because this guy was a bad guy. Who do you think you're editing anyway? You know, you're a nothing. You're a nobody editor and your editing me! You should be ashamed of yourself. I want to talk to the boss this woman trying to edit me and she's an idiot. That kind of guy is not a welcome person in a newspaper because

1:58:55 Because it's a newspapers are just a machine to produce copy and meaningless crap literally Yep, that goes out as fast as it can and I don't think he Performed well in that regard while we're on that. I think the New York Times is falling apart too I think this this Jill Abrams getting I was looking at some clips so they were talking about this on the I do have do I have a clip on this I do have one clip. This is women in the news, this was a woman that used to be the editor-in-chief of the Chicago Tribune bitching about the fact that now there's no women editors in any of the great papers and we need to listen to this. Once a year actually and we could actually fill a dinner table of those of us who are doing this work

1:59:42 And we're now with Jill's dismissal. We have no women leading any newspapers in the top 10 markets, and in the top 25, we have only two. All right may I say something to the women in journalism? Be happy and start working on not being part of some crazy You can't monetize the network anymore people be your own little entity You know, you're not gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars But you can certainly like Marcy Wheeler. I think she made she saved herself She is that her name Marcie? Think it's Marcie Wheeler isn't it? I don't know who Marcie Wheeler is yeah, the empty wheeled who left who left the

2:00:24 Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, the one who quit before she even started. You can, if you're gonna wait around to be part of and I will say this some male-dominated ownership of newspapers then you're stupid. And I think women are much smarter than that! You need to go and get your own thing going it's time we may not be driving Maseratis and we may not be taking town cars to lunches at Morton's but were getting by and doing something and changing something isn't that what its about? No your all waiting for some Even Marcy Wheeler said, oh if a billionaire wants to support my work fuck you. Start working! Do it you can do it now If you really got guts then do it. This is the slavish mentality this is like I need a job I need affirmation of my slavehood by somebody that has more money than I do because they've achieved this and so when they... Like if I want be supported by a billionaire

2:01:22 then I feel affirmed in my slavehood. This is slave mentality, and the women that are in the newspaper business are just exhibiting it to an extreme which is one of the reasons by the way a lot of them were out because they couldn't produce newspapers that people wanted to read! There's a lot to do with it. These newspapers are failing because they stink! They have big giant fat newspapers all about issues nobody gives a crap about except some remote group of enclosed kind of in these... Yeah, get into it. You know what? This is where you need to live a life with poverty for awhile eat some of your possessions like I did and I think John you certainly went through some of that as we transitioned over the past six years and you'll learn something oh you know what you might actually get in touch with your actual audience

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2:11:35 And, but was it Bosnia and Herzegovina? They're drowning man. Well I don't know we have any listeners there. I don't know how that can even happen. Uh... Was it, I think it's- Any Bosnians listening give us a right! Oh its really sad It's like four meters of water or something they're drowning Four meters?! Yeah I'm not kidding Of course it all- That's below the warming Exactly Um Did you see the Bitcoin stuff that happened? Well No I do know that Glenn Beck is all over Bitcoin now and other people, and then Halsey Minor the old founder of CNET who went bankrupt by being a spendthrift. I believe has decided to open a bitcoin exchange. Yeah okay well so i've been following the Mt Gox bankruptcy and the purchase

2:12:31 I told you the Brock Pierce, the child star who was involved in the digital entertainment network Den. Right, and you are following this? Yeah, the whole LA gay scene that was all kind of weird in those days and he's also been named in these lawsuits with a guy from... The movie director So this former child star, Brock Pierce... I'm not quite sure how it happened but all of a sudden he became the new executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation and 10 members have now quit in disgust. This whole thing is falling apart!

2:13:16 You know when you get the former Disney child star from the failed digital entertainment network under allegation of raping young boys? Well, he's not... Sorry that's not true. He is not under any suspicion about it but he has been named in connection with this becoming the director of I think is not an executive director, a director of the Bitcoin Foundation everyone quitting It's falling apart Well, they...somebody. They in this case I believe the government decided to put him in it. I think he's in some sort of like a not complete witness protection but he did some sort of deal? Yeah, it is some kind of program for sure. Some sort of program. They pushed him into this because they need somebody that one of their guys into the head of this so they can...this is to catch criminals I believe. They want to infiltrate the Bitcoin community. Well, I think they've succeeded

2:14:16 Well, they're sinking the whole thing is the problem. So it's not where you if you were gonna create a honeypot You want it to be what? It is a honey pot so people come in they feel comfortable They do these deals this buy and sell drugs And now you just track them all and you got it made making a lot easier on yourself But now that if these guys if you'd do something stupid like putting this guy as the head of the Bitcoin Foundation morons Now there's poorly thought out Yeah, let's put him in as the head because you know he's like a famous actor and they'll really like that yeah, yeah did that Hollywood thing always works I am I had a couple clips here from John Miller John Miller was the He worked at the NSA and then he became the shill at CBS and famously Did the

2:15:09 the very weak softball piece for 60 minutes on the NSA. Pathetic piece, let me say nobody liked it and then he became the terrorism strategist or some weird title for the New York Police Department. Right, they need a man in there and then he's the man And well... He has got some interesting things to say which don't quite all fit with the narrative and he has some promotion work that he is doing on behalf of probably his former employers if not the NSA then surely for the CIA

2:15:49 He was on a panel and it was the panel title was The Changing Face of Terrorism. And here the question was posed, what keeps you up at night? No! It's almost like if you were a tree. What kind of tree would you be? John Miller what keeps you up at night? What keeps me up at night is Inspire magazine goes out to tens of thousands of people who have varying levels of interest and commitment to its content now let's just mention here, Inspire magazine doesn't go out to anybody. It's a PDF that anyone can download and we're pretty sure the CIA publishes this themselves but it keeps him up at night that this magazine which I've read it you've read it...I did not become radicalized

2:16:42 I did not all of a sudden want to create bombs in the kitchen of my mom's. And they can't get any traction for this magazine, so they keep talking about it! Ah but wait... But wait! Half of those tens of thousands are law enforcement and intelligence officers and reporters The other half are reading it saying Here is a set of instructions for a pressure cooker bomb. I could put that at the Boston Marathon, I could take it to Super Bowl Boulevard on Broadway." And by the way we need to point out that the pressure cooker bomb came after the bombing not before so they were not radicalized into doing this because of Inspire Magazine. Inspire magazine jumped on the bandwagon so to speak. Some of them are looking at the new issue

2:17:27 which has an extraordinarily simple recipe, not for a pressure cooker bomb but for large vehicle bombs. Oh! Large vehicle bomb? Thanks for the tip! And the Boston Marathon model or the Sarnayev problem is what do you when your not dealing with Al-Qaeda What to do when your not dealing with an al Qaeda affiliate What do you do when you're dealing with Al-Qaedaism? Al-Qaeda ISM! It's like... it's like transphobia. I have al-qaeda phobia is what i have. Al-Qaedaism and the serenade of model Which is a movement and a message. It's a movement, it's a message The message is in the muuuusic Not an organization that has spread wide if not deep

2:18:22 And when the conspirators may not be contacting the network or reaching out through the channels that the US government has been very good about intercepting, what if they're just talking to each other? Oh. How does that give them opportunity to fly under your intelligence radar? That is what keeps me up at night because every night when I go to bed, I go down that list and say, What could we have missed today? Where did we not look? Which case that we were about to step out of, are we going to step out just a month too early? Because we need the resources to start the next one. So I'm just not sleeping that much." Not sleeping that much! Oh crap... Now he comes with something very interesting for me which I did not know

2:19:11 But I appreciate his promoing the new magazine. to your Inspire magazine or you look at your Azzan magazine which is the same publication but from Tariq E. Taliban if you look at the upcoming magazine, which we haven't seen yet, which is Resurgence Which I believe will be targeted So he has not seen it yet Is this an Omadar thing? Is Glenn Greenwald going to write for it? I think its a first-look property It's the Resurgence Magazine which we have not seen yet somehow john miller means knows all about it we've we haven't seen yet which is resurgence uh... which i believe will be targeted uh... specifically looking at the market itself african-american converts hey mohammed mohammed muhammad muhammad and mohammed said they were hungry are not yeah hope that there's a handful of other things

2:18:22 And when the conspirators may not be contacting the network or reaching out through the channels that the US government has been very good about intercepting, what if they're just talking to each other? Oh. How does that give them opportunity to fly under your intelligence radar? That is what keeps me up at night because every night when I go to bed, I go down that list and say, What could we have missed today? Where did we not look? Which case that we were about to step out of, are we going to step out just a month too early? Because we need the resources to start the next one. So I'm just not sleeping that much." Not sleeping that much! Oh crap... Now he comes with something very interesting for me which I did not know

2:19:11 But I appreciate his promoing the new magazine. to your Inspire magazine or you look at your Azzan magazine which is the same publication but from Tariq E. Taliban if you look at the upcoming magazine, which we haven't seen yet, which is Resurgence Which I believe will be targeted So he has not seen it yet Is this an Omadar thing? Is Glenn Greenwald going to write for it? I think its a first-look property It's the Resurgence Magazine which we have not seen yet somehow john miller means knows all about it we've we haven't seen yet which is resurgence uh... which i believe will be targeted uh... specifically looking at the market itself african-american converts hey mohammed mohammed muhammad muhammad and mohammed said they were hungry are not yeah hope that there's a handful of other things

2:20:10 Hello, hello Mohammed. Yeah yeah yeah. Hello Mohammed it's... How is this? Are you in publishing? Who is this? This..this is the Jihadi Joe! Okay what? We need a new magazine. Oh okay. This Inspire Magazine not working no more Oh no we do, ah yeah. We do magazine. Why? Why do you sound Asian? I'm Asian It's too late for this i can't do this right now let's listen to uh this fine new publication and I say that because it's its lead-off promotional video featured Malcolm X oh yes what okay

2:20:51 Malcolm X. So it's targeted at Africans? If I was a member of the black community, especially the black Muslims...I'd be outraged! ...I would be so irked by that. Yeah this is not right. Which i believe will be targeted specifically looking to market itself to African-American converts. African American converts African-American converts. How many African American terrorists have we seen so far? Yeah, but wait! This... well zero But now this is so disgusting what he is now saying He's saying

2:21:33 Yeah, the African-Americans. They're gonna get self radicalized because... Malcolm X! Let's set them up. Let's get set them up for a while. We had a meeting the other day and you'd seem to be pretty white. Yeah we need some blackies in there I know let's do a video oh look here's the video If you and i would just realize that once we learn to talk the language that they understand. They will then get the point...

2:22:14 You can never reach a man if you don't speak his language. This is the actual audio track from the Resurgence video. Yeah, and I guess the language is cocking a gun or shooting someone. Oh no, you see nothing but shooting and fighting and killing... The man speaks the language of brutal force so we can't come to him with peace Why, good night. He'll break you in two as he has been doing all along You have to find out what does this man speak and once you know his language learn how to speak his language And he'll get the point They only know one language Two rapid fire explosions at the finish line Learn a language that they understand and then when they come up on our doorstep to talk We can talk

2:23:14 So there you go. What was that? The guy yelling out of the Ock bar? Yeah, so you have to kind of see the videos and show notes of course. It's bad enough with the audio! 618.nashownotes.com So the CIA who create these publications and put together this video have now determined that we are going to turn African-Americans, i.e., the black people of North America into Muslim terrorists who will start blowing stuff up and yelling aloo akbar And I say that because it's lead off promotional video featured Malcolm X They're gonna be talking

2:23:58 The key to terrorism is... How does he know any of this? Because he's part of the team that put it together. Weren't you in the meeting?! Doesn't it make nothing but sense to everybody, or isn't it transparent to everybody that this is a scam? Pfff! The old Al-Qaeda which was organizing a complex two and half year planning arc for a $500,000 plot to collapse the World Trade Center um, is really the opposite It should be low tech, should be low cost, should be high yield Low cost, low tech high yield. And the examples of that apply to a place like Los Angeles or New York or anywhere in between are the Mumbai attacks The active shooter model when you combine it with fire You saw that used effectively by terrorists in Mumbai and Benghazi You'll see it used again elsewhere All these things are within reach

2:24:55 Did we play the clip? I had, uh...I don't remember if we played it. Of the testing going on at the Hayward Mall. In Kenya? No! In California down here like- Oh, Hayward, California?! Yeah. No no i don't think we played that. I will have to put that in the next show because it's a Hayward Mall clip It was um yeah we didn't play it they were doing these exercises There was a kicker in there actually I wish i had this is a while back but exactly what he said that's what they're working on and they kept when I play this clip if you too much you can't get it. It's from the May 11th show because it has a little interesting tip at the end that is exactly what he's talking about

2:25:42 Well, just to make it a little nuttier I have one more clip by this douche knuckle and when you listen to this he's talking about terrorism events like a movie producer slash director as if it really is a movie. Listen... We obsess they'll attack the water supply They'll go after the food supply They'll poison the milk in the cows They'll do a biological- they sit around up at night While we're tossing and turning thinking about what they're thinking, and they're thinking about I need to kill people. I need to have the streets running with blood. I need people running in screaming. I needed on TV. I'm not worried about causing a blackout. I need people to die. Terrorism is theater.

2:26:35 It requires a storyline, it needs a big dramatic scene. It needs that story arc and the big scene, the money shot involves blood and bodies And that's what they're thinking about. They ain't thinking about the grid. And he's essentially saying that all of this cyber stuff, we don't have to worry about it because these guys are only out for blood. And that's all they do at night is like hey can I come over your house and strategize on some blood? It goes contrary to everything... Well it definitely goes contrary to the money making ideas of Richard Clarke and some of these other characters You could say Dick Dick They call him Dick Clark

2:27:30 Yeah. Anyway, but every time I see Dick Clark, I think the dead gay guy doesn't work for me. I like Richard. By the way do you know that Casey Kasem has gone missing? He's disappeared from the face of the earth apparently or he's been locked in a closet by his sister whoever it is that's holding him hostage. That's weird man! Or his wife i guess... we've got a crazy wife That's... yeah. Didn't he have the really hot wife? Like young- The blonde with the weird hair Yeah, who was that wasn't she an actress or something I think she still married to him and she's the one who locked him up maybe No guy could be wrong Freaky! That could happen to me by the way Oh yeah i'm expecting it It could happen to me at any moment Attention all human resources Now entering second half of zone

2:28:21 Second half of show. Oh, which we rarely do yes well Interesting clip came my way Following the news that the harp array in Alaska is closing down Yep shutting her down shuttin her down and harp of course long thought to be a weather manipulation station a system to fry people at great distance Not saying I don't believe in that David Walker, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force in charge... I can't get the right sound effect mechanism. Keep talking! David Walker, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force You're gonna want to do that after you listen to the clip it's very short He is going to tell us why harp is no longer necessary Do you have any idea why harp is no longer necessary John? Because they cost too much Too expensive $300 million dollars They've gotten great value out of harp in the past

2:29:23 took over from the Navy and managed it and actually did a number of experiment campaigns up there, and have finished our work that we're interested in doing up there. We've moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere which the HAARP was really designed to do was to inject energy into the ionosphere be able to actually control it What happens when you control the ionosphere? Well, there's a couple of things about this. One is that they haven't shut it down yet and on apparently June 15th they're gonna do their last experiment... June 15th coincides perfectly! Six-week cycle! Six weeks cycle. Nice So there you have it Now this is being touted in these circles which I often travel as proof

2:30:20 that there's weather manipulation going on, but quite honestly I have to say controlling the ionosphere is really certainly what i think it was initially meant for was controlling radio waves. But also creating plasma and all kinds of funky stuff... But I found interesting that he says no we have oh we have all these other ways are doing now this old school as his old technology All you harp people? Directed energy weapons people! This harp stuff is, that's like Stone Age. That's like ham radio to our internet! Yeah well there you have it. I think that's a good summary June 15th Very interesting we will definitely mark that down Maybe we're gonna have the big event they had to have one a good one here as opposed to these some dipshit plan to dial the phone number and blow up the bank It is time I agree

2:31:21 Okay, we're... I have a couple of things that want to get out of here. Yeah please. Which is this apparently China's having nothing but labor problems and this is gonna get worse and worse And I wanna play two clips One is the China strikers hilarious clip because apparently their labor problems are essentially the following You hire me We sign a contract that you're going to pay me this much? I work my ass off for ya working 16 hours day after day and you don't pay me that's essentially the uh the bitch that they have. I would know we don't get paid this is it you know this is bad but play the first clip which is China strikers hilarious. But china is poised to overtake the U.S as the world's largest economy this year and one reason for that success has been an endless supply of cheap labor over who um what outfit is claiming this

2:32:14 This is Van Katten. The guards still keep a watchful eye, but on the surface all seems back to normal at Yu Yuan's huge factory complex in Dongguan. No trace of the strikes which began in April to demand welfare payments from the firm which makes shoes for brands including Nike, Adidas and Puma After two weeks of tension and dozens of arrests, the authorities ordered the strikers back to work

2:33:01 But many seem unconvinced by their bosses' pledge to repay what they're owed. We are not satisfied, but we have no choice! You have to go back to work! If we don't go on strike how will ever get paid what we are owed? That was our only demand that they meet the terms of our contract and pay our social security. Interesting So this is the kind of management that goes on in China. We just don't ever talk about this sort of thing, but I got the bigger kick out of this guy, the next clip which is Boston China. This is a guy who runs one of the factories and don't forget to all out of the blue within the last very few years over 340 billionaires have been minted in China because they don't pay people they're crooked

2:33:47 And this guy essentially admits it. He's one of the managers of one of these factories and he says, you know if we actually had to pay these people, we'd go broke! It is getting increasingly difficult to recruit workers more and more of them are demanding to check their contracts or to make sure they get complete social security So we really have to respect the labor law. And with rising wages and production costs, some bosses, me included are thinking of moving out to Vietnam or Cambodia." Three decades after its industry first took off, Shenzhen is one of China's four richest cities. As production costs rise it's aiming to focus more on high-tech high value added industries like electronics telecommunications and biotechnology and to depend less on an increasingly savvy labor force

2:34:39 Yeah, well enjoy your iPhone. Enjoy the rest of your day I thought that clip especially let's go to Vietnam where they're gonna run into a very intelligent population 97% literacy rate much higher than ours here in the United States and the economy in Vietnam is booming yeah so Vietnam out Cambodia I can see that right right well Cambodia has got problems now the Chinese can deal with it or maybe just move all their facilities to Africa. There you go, get people who work cheap there. All right let me wrap up my end with one email and one clip regarding Nigeria of course people who listen to the show know our stance on Nigeria very interesting to see that they've sent over accountants to go find the 49 point six billion dollars that has gone missing from the National Nigerian Petroleum Corporation a joint venture with

2:35:37 shell and Chevron oops I'm sorry Roy a road that shelling Chevron if this is the email. I think we're gonna read It's a beauty from Hector subject Boko Haram, I like your guys show and everything But I just don't see your angle of how you can confidently just call this boku haram thing a hoax Literally from what I've heard you seem to think there isn't much foliage or building so it couldn't happen. Or that parents should be able to pick their children out of a crowd quicker! Honestly, come with something better because this is one the worst analysis or justification for hoaxes I have ever heard from you guys

2:36:15 P.S., it's also getting a bit too obvious that whenever... whatever country Adam happens to pop into is 100% pristine, but when you return home everything is awful! I've been to many other airports all over the world and they're very similar The fact that you try to paint every security worker in foreign airports as nice then every security worker in the US as a deuce just makes you look biased Yeah well It's funny because my wife doesn't get detained in other countries I love that letter, that guy's great. He is good! Keep it up! He doesn't listen to the show though... he can tell these guys. Of course not. Because our expositions where we develop these thesees is really generally two or three shows of... And information comes from people who have been there and give us this information

2:37:04 Feats on the ground everywhere. Yes, so now I have a quick clip from Alice friend is her name and She Bokaharam, as you know... So here's another little data point for you about the scam. Why? And we asked this from the minute it happened! Why haven't we had, you know, bring back our boys who were burned in their dorm rooms or, you know, this has been going on for years and Boka Haram of course has been on the payroll that's why they've been paid to do crap

2:37:41 And the Ms. Friend is going to tell us exactly what this is really about, what is Boko Haram really fighting John? I have no idea Mr Chairman the threat to Nigeria from Boko Haram has grown over the past five years and mutates day by day extending its reach increasing the sophistication and lethality of it's attacks and growing its military capacity These most recent attacks are especially unconscionable because they were perpetrated against innocent girls and because of the sheer scale of the attack in Chibok. Unfortunately, these kidnappings are only the most recent outrages in a growing portfolio of attacks perpetrated by Boko Haram in its war against education." Oh okay.

2:38:30 It's the war against education. This is the one that Michelle brought up, no reports from coming out of the European news sources have said this ever! No. Michelle Obama is the first one which we had a clip of her saying it and then we identified it because there was part of the agenda, the Obama agenda as education to screw up common core working Which we haven't discussed enough. And so now that she drops this bomb, who was that woman and where was she testifying? She was in Congress and works for the Department of Defense. She works for the Pentagon. Okay, so she's part of the whole... Yeah! Of course! Wow! That's okay I'm gonna tell you know what

2:39:17 I like that clip so much because it caught me off guard, uh...that you do get a Clip of the Day we have. Well you're overdue Wow! That's very kind of you. I don't know if i deserve it but I'll take it. Well with that and it being almost 3am what do you say? I think we should close shop. That's right well we hope you enjoyed the value that we provided for you um and we've got our little rap song coming up here as promised at the very end of the show And we'd love to see your support. Dvorak dot org slash N A As Thursday, John will be in the Motor City Detroit Depressing people and I will be still in Tokyo Indeed On the cusp of our departure back home To no doubt another fine incarceration moment Of the lovely Miss Mickey

2:40:17 So with that, coming to you from the Hot Pockets Wasabi Love Hotel here in Tokyo. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I... uh.. don't know i'm gonna start packing. I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda I got no agenda when it comes to these tracks Rapid rails, no conspiracy theory of spitting facts Let them do the research back in with some C-SPAN Expose the memes won't you bow to your kings As they bless you with knighthood TSA is grabbing ball sacks from the back To make your flight good It's for security they say just a small price to pay Get your civil liberties taken away

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