Abundance of Caution

00:00 I don't care. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, February 20th, 2014, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 5, 9 or 3. This is no agenda. Poking skull and bones in their eye sockets from FEMA Region 6 here at the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Sochi West, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's the Ragbot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Alright, I'll bite. There's nothing to bite. I just decided to call myself from being from Soshi West. I like it. I like what's Thursday and I love Thursdays. I do I love Thursdays. You know why I love Thursdays John? Because you don't have the Mondays? No, I love Thursdays because it's been an extra

00:51 an extra day, you know, that I haven't talked to you and I'm excited. You know, I'm excited. Yo, wait, you're telling me you love Thursdays because you get to talk to me or because you got an extra day without talking to me? Yes. Yes. Yes to all of the above. No, there's all these things that have happened and they're like, you know, there's extra days in between the Sunday show and the Thursday show and I'm always excited to tell you what's going on in my life. Oh, something happened? Oh, it's funny you ask. Well, first of all, Miss Mickey and I last night celebrated our second mattress together. You got a new mattress? Yeah, I think this... Yes, we did. Our second mattress in our togetherness. How long you been together? Five years. I think a mattress every five years is good. You wore out a mattress? I think five years for a mattress is enough. It's hard to say. But the guys who delivered the new one, they have some funny stories.

01:53 I said, hey, you know, you guys do a lot of mattresses? Yeah. You must see some, don't even talk about what we see. Can you imagine? Oh my God. Now that you mention it. Can you just imagine when people's mattresses ruined my breakfast? Um, no, I'll give you a, there was something interesting that happened on, I got a, it felt a bit like a booty call, but I'll take it. On Tuesday, I was invited by my constitutional lawyer friend, Eric here, you know, the one that was, that was suing the Supreme court, et cetera. Yeah? To join him at the Austin Club. Oh, the Austin Club. Yes, which I had not heard of. But the Austin Club was one of the original, I think at one point the largest opera house in all of America built in the 1800s. And now it's a private club. And if you're a member, then you can... I think it's kind of the Texas, Austin, Texas version of maybe like the Princeton Club, except it's not necessarily for

02:52 It's not a scholastic clubs, but you know like guys I think Republicans essentially That's what it felt like to me and he said you know I'd really you know we do this once a month It's like eight or nine guys, and you know we're primarily lawyers But you know we have one guest who will then be the guest speaker which I was not I was just a guest to be there the guest was Stuart Bowen and Stuart Bowen He was, well I knew his name because he was the Inspector General for the Coalition Provision Authority in Iraq just before I went there, which is 10 years ago today actually. So he was doling out the money before Paul Bremer. But if you look at what this guy has done, I mean he was the, he was in charge of the transition team for Bush Cheney. This guy, big insider, big, big insider. And so I thought, yeah, all right, this'll be cool.

03:53 Also at the table, one of the Texas or Austin's biggest lobbyists, the guy who runs the Texas Teachers Retirement Fund, which is, I don't know, eight billion dollars. Right, so you're hanging out with the local elites. Yeah, and so but the, what's his name, Stuart Bone, his son came along and his son is running one of these election consultancies in Texas. And I think they're running 10 different positions. And I heard all these numbers, you know, like 300, you know, 250. Hold on a second. What? I mean, so you're telling me if I have the budget, you can get me into, you can get me a Senate seat? He said, absolutely. If you're an R, no problem in Texas.

04:42 The cost, John, to become a state senator? What? $500,000. Well, that's nothing. That's what I said. I said, I should be able to raise that. Yeah. Imagine all the fun I could have. Yeah. Committee meetings all day. No! Anyway, so I'm now kind of in. So, you know, I'm making new friends and learning new things. This should be interesting when the next one rolls around. I think I'm going to be asked to become a member. A member of the Austin club? Well, of the club within the Austin club. This is one of the clubs. What's the club within the Austin club? Well, it's these guys. It's these guys who have this meeting once a month. And what's the cost to join this club? I think, I have no idea. I don't know if it's money, it may be, you know... It's gotta be money. I think it's secret handshake, you gotta, you know, I don't know, probably some kind of initiation thing.

05:32 I'll find out, I'll find out. But you know this is what we need. I have the Obama-bot dinners. We need the polar opposite. This is very good. I think this would be the polar opposite. Yeah, I'm excited though. I think this is going to be very good for the show. Do we have any independent... why don't you join a church while you're there? It's a lot of churches. Baptist churches here. No, no, don't go. Sorry, people. Don't go Baptist. The largest pointy roof Baptist church is in Austin. That's not the architectural name, but that's what it looks like. What's the name of it? The Austin Pointy Roof Baptist Church. You drive past the place every so often. I do. No, it's... I wouldn't even bother to look at the name. It's right near our house, actually. I will look at the name.

06:19 Anyway, today is World Day of Social Justice by presidential proclamation. Enjoy that everybody as Kiev burns Who keyed what I said enjoy the by presidential park burns. Yes Kiev is burning Okay, you're baffling me. You got me stumped here on today's show. Why no, I don't know who Kiev burns is or these other people. Oh Kiev is Ukraine. Oh Kiev burns. I thought you're talking about some guy named Keith Keith No, this is the show title now Kiev burn Keith burns Burns burns Kiev burns. I'm sorry. We went back to Skype. So we have less less of a latency in between our two stations, but the quality is a little lower apparently yeah, I have the

07:12 Well, if you want to hear the propaganda mouthpiece of the government, I do have the CBS report. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I got it right here CBS on the Ukraine warned Ukrainians that the demonstrators were trying to seize power But the protesters accused Yanukovych of being corrupt and increasingly dictatorial Oleg Blaschuk is a professional translator who told us he came to Independence Square because he wants a more democratic government Are you willing to fight? When it's needed, yeah. I will fight for my family. I will fight for the future of my children, of my grandchildren. I have two grandchildren. I will fight, of course. Holly Williams joins us now. Holly, what is the way out? How do they resolve this?

08:02 Well it won't be easy Scott because the two sides are entrenched. The protesters say they won't leave until the president's removed from office but he is clearly determined to stay on. So the two sides may have agreed to a truce tonight but last night they both showed they're willing to use violence to get what they want. Holly Williams in Kiev. Thanks Holly. Now here's what this is all about. Ukraine is in the middle Oh, hold on. Hold on. Let me get my pen. Here it comes. Get your pen out. This is what it's all about. And he's going to do it in one minute. Great. OK. A tug of war. It borders Russia and the European Union. Ukraine was about to sign a cooperation agreement with the EU, but under Russian pressure, the Ukrainian president sided with Moscow. Oh, hold on. Hold on. That's a lie, by the way. That's a total lie.

08:51 Now, I'll finish your clip and then I gotta respond to that. President Obama sounded off on the crisis today. Chief White House correspondent Major Garrett is with the president who's on a trade mission in Mexico. Stop, stop, stop. I hate to make you go back up but I've listened to this a million times.

09:28 to hear what he says and the economy is, and he uses a word, I cannot understand what he says. I thought it's his shambles. In 2012 his party won an election that monitors said was rigged, not to mention the fact that the economy is a wreck. It's a wreck! It's a wreck! No, that can't be it! Why would he say the economy is a wreck? Because he's it sounds like he's mumbling something else. I is erect maybe Erect it sounded like a wreck telling you I can't you you've heard it. I why it says shambles

10:07 Well, I equated wreck to shambles. I don't hear wreck, but I hear about a wreck. Really? Well, I hear a wreck. A wreck. A wreck. In 2012, his party won an election that monitors said was rigged. Not to mention the fact that the economy is a wreck. President Obama sounded off on the crisis today. Chief White House Correspondent Major Garrett is with them. Wait a minute. Now you've got me second guessing. Did he say Obama signed off on this? Whoa, hold on a second. What am I hearing? Sounded off on the crisis today. Chief White House correspondent Major Garrett is with the president. What did he do like a Occupy Wall Street soundcheck? Mic check, mic check, sounding off. Who's on a trade mission in Mexico tonight. Major?

10:52 Scott, President Obama urged Ukrainian President Yanukovych to keep the military out of this conflict, pull back his riot police and negotiate a role for opposition leaders in a new unity government. We expect the Ukrainian government to show restraint, to not resort to violence in dealing with peaceful protesters. We've said that we also expect peaceful protesters to remain peaceful. and we'll be monitoring very carefully the situation, recognizing that along with our European partners and the international community, there will be consequences if people step over the line. The White House has warned Yanukovych that if the bloodshed does not end, it will slap economic sanctions on a wide array of financial transactions. A senior official described reports of a truce between the government and protesters as a glimmer of hope, but Scott, the White House says it intends to keep up

11:47 the diplomatic pressure. Wow, okay, that report from the Ministry of Truth of the United States? Well, okay. So first of all, I love the fact that the entire world was watching Europe watching Kiev on television. I'm sure you got the the live stream and that what that was really that was a very surreal moment I thought yeah, because there was not you know it was it was we everyone's watching the live stream on the internet. Okay, so what we have here is Exactly what was promised the rubble? Well, it's not really the rubble is ation, but Ukraine is now going to be split in two. It's big You know we have almost 25% of the people speak Russian and

12:35 Putin, by the way, that is a lie. He did not give this, hand out some ultimatum like either you go with us or you go with them. In fact, quite the opposite. He specifically asked for non-exclusivity and to, is it tripartite? Is that what you call it? What's the... Tripartite arrangement? T-R-I-P-A-R-T-I-T-E? Tripertite? Tripertite? Well, three-party arrangement. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he said a three-party arrangement. Not just us or, you know, my way or the highway. That's just not true. No, but that's the way we like to think. Yeah, well, yeah, no, this is complete propaganda.

13:14 This is a huge embarrassment to Putin. That's what this is about. Oh, yeah. It's all about Putin. Well, let's just let's just look at till we get Snowden back then things will be fine. So look at what we're doing. So Putin You hate gays. You gay hater. We're embarrassing you at the Olympics by, you know, with another week to go and, you know, you can't really go and sending your troops to Kiev right now. Right. And the Russian hockey team lost. The Russian hockey team lost. We staged, literally staged a pussy riot whipping which was actors. It was actors. It was actors, you know, so we'll make it look like you beat up hot punk chicks. Oh by the way, we're gonna buy your Ukrainian founded WhatsApp with Facebook, screw you on that too. We're blaming Syria's, you know, the Geneva 2 protocol failing on you. I think it's amazing that Putin hasn't just

14:14 Gone over and punch somebody in the face. Yeah, he's really put up with a lot and but you know, but there's he's got Snowden He's got Snowden, but there's some really interesting things happening I see Germany or let's let's say specifically Berlin and and Moscow, you know President Obama has not spoken with Putin but Merkel has and And they're both saying, yes, we're going to, you know, we're trying to work on restraint. And people have to look at where Ukraine is on the map. You know, this is not just Ukraine. We've got Poland, we've got Germany, we've got all these countries

14:58 this particular region. I should mention something here to interrupt you. Yeah, why? When he threw the map up of the world map, he showed the Ukraine and he showed all these little bordering countries. Yeah. And the one that but there was a dark one right above the UK. They're all labeled except for Georgia. Oh, Georgia. Who cares? Because what I'm seeing, John, is this is from the American NATO side, I think it's really more NATO than US and EU. We now are going to create the new East and West Berlin, except it's not going to be in Germany. It's actually going to be on Russia's border.

15:37 And we're going to move our borders of NATO halfway through Ukraine, and there will be no other buffer. And this is very egregious what is taking place. And quite honestly, I think I made a mistake, we, but I'll call it my job. I was not paying attention to skull and bones John Kerry. This guy, all of a sudden, it feels like the neocons have just jumped right into the State Department or running the whole thing. If you listen to the difference between Kerry, who seems to be running all the shows now in Syria, in Ukraine, and Obama, it feels like Obama was caught off guard.

16:20 I don't think he didn't have some grand statement with all the flags behind him. He was sitting in a chair kind of like he's at a Starbucks. Like, yeah, well, I don't know. Here's Kerry. Russia needs to be a part of the solution and not be contributing so many more weapons and so much more aid that they're in fact enabling Assad to double down. I'm sorry, that was the Syria clip. Ah, messed that one up. Here's Obama, who of course was in Mexico with the North American Union. His entire mission there is to strengthen support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which intends to fill some of the unhappy holes in NAFTA.

17:07 And he was just there for one day, just trying to get the Mexicans and the Canadians on board. But you know, we love on the No Agenda Show to listen how people deny something when they really mean that is the truth. So let me give an example. No, I did not steal the cookies. Is that a good example? I like it. I don't know if it's the best example in the world, but it's a good one. I had one the other day which we couldn't do on the show, but it was a woman talking about, yeah, I'm all for this idea while she was shaking her head back and forth. Well, the president actually, he said something that no one asked him, no one brought this particular phrase up.

17:53 But he just said it as in in a denying negative way which to me meant yeah, that's exactly what you're doing I do think and this is by the way a question when he was in Mexico trying to do something completely different So I think this was annoying to him that this popped up is worth noting that you have in this situation one country that has clearly been a client state of Russia, another whose government is currently been supported by Russia, where the people obviously have a very different view and vision for their country. And we've now seen a great deal of turmoil there that arose organically from within those countries. Organically? I don't think there's a competition between the United States and Russia. I think this is

18:49 an expression of the hopes and aspirations of people inside of Syria and people inside of the Ukraine. So now listen very carefully what he's saying. First he's denying that this is some kind of proxy war with Russia, which is exactly what it is. Then he's, even though the question was not about Syria, he connects Syria and Ukraine together. The only connection there is of course Russia. who recognize that basic freedoms... Oh, I'm sorry, and they need basic freedoms. The people of Ukraine want basic freedoms and democracy and be able to love who they want to. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, fair and free elections, the ability to run a business without paying a bribe.

19:34 like America. Wow! So it's not about Russia. But Mr. Putin clearly disagrees with freedom of speech, with starting a business without having to pay bribes, without letting you be yourself, freedom to assembly. Seriously, Mr. President? And our approach as the United States is not to see these as some Cold War chessboard in which we're in competition with Russia. He can't even say the phrase without stuttering after it. It's exactly what he means.

20:24 It is exactly what it is, an old war chessboard of Cold War. And in this place, I really missed it. But I think that, you know, the Skull and Bones, which of course is, this is the club that George W. Bush belonged to. It's the Yalies. They're connected to Carlyle Group. So there's economic hitmen all over the place. Newland, Newland's husband is one of the original Project for New American This has always been the idea. Well that explains the Newland anomaly, which is what I call it when I first noticed that she was married to this guy. It makes no sense. You know the funny thing is... Oh by the way I want to correct myself, that little part of the map they left off was Belarus, not Georgia. Georgia's down south of... Yeah I thought it was Belarus. Yeah. So we are in, as far as I'm concerned, this tipping point

21:29 And and let's just evaluate some more pieces on the on the board that isn't the chessboard we have the the main the Freedom Party which is run by the kickboxer Klitsch Klitschko and he's a Boxer not a kickboxer. I think he also does I think he also has kickboxing. I could be wrong. That was his brother, right? It's brothers brother Well, they are brothers. Yeah, they're brothers. Yeah, the other ones that was a kickboxer very few people realize but he was actually the international champion for a while and They're stationed in oh gee Germany we've got angler communicating with With Putin here is here's what here's what they really want and with they I mean the West including us and this is a report from

22:25 from Ukraine, this is kind of like the Ukraine Russian propaganda radio station in English but it's very clear what they're going after. The Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform, UDAR, led by opposition MP Vitaly Klitschko has issued a statement demanding an early presidential election. Having deliberately provoked bloodshed, the authorities crossed the line. So the new election is what they want. Even though the election, there's going to be an election one year from now, they want an election now. And the monitors, I'm not quite sure how that turned up in your report, but in 2010 and 2012 everyone signed off on the elections, the international monitors. So this is, it's just a lot of lying going on. Yeah, it's weird. And we need to sell this. If we want to sell something to the public, what is a... Do you need to get that? Go on.

23:22 If you when we work in the United States government when we want to sell something to the people I'm just gonna see if John knows what we typically do. Who do we call? You call Clooney and say Clooney go to the film festival in Berlin, you know We'll let you come and show that movie at the White House, which is being universally panned by the critics. Sorry Could you say something about Ukraine there George? The Klitschko brothers we're friends with. We've known them since the Oceans film and we see them often and keep in touch sometimes and I like them both very much. But I was also aware of Yulia Tymoshenko and the fact that she really hasn't committed any crime.

24:08 and she's been placed in jail sort of as a political prisoner and it just seems like it gets lost in all of the shuffle of news and it's not talked about so I just wanted to show some support for that. I think that the protesters are having a very difficult time and I know that they're having some hooligans on their side that are also making it more difficult so it's going to be again a very long struggle but I find it to be an important one to at least point out that the people are hoping for their own self-determination. George Clooney! George Clooney! George Clooney is a spy! Okay, where did you get that? That was also on the Ukrainian radio. The Clooney commentary? Yeah! As opposed to George Clooney is a spy? No, the commentary. If only they played that on the Ukrainian radio, that would be funny.

25:00 Um, so I find this, what happened, because this was pure embarrassment. They could have waited and everything is exactly what the call said, by the way. Biden called the president, gave him an attaboy, rub on the head. How incredible is that, that Biden, even after it was exposed that he was being used as a little puppet to give an attaboy, that he does it. I wouldn't do it if that had been exposed in that phone call by Newland. But I'm just some monkey boy who's called in to dance and call the guy because the president's too big to call him? Our president? I think that was an error that the Newland that was revealed. About Biden? Biden. I don't think it matters. I don't think anyone... No, obviously that's the point. I mean, that's the real insult. It's not that he did it. It's that they don't give a crap about him.

25:57 For them to do this now with, you know, still this last week of... Putin did not want this, I'm sure of it. He doesn't want this crap going on during the Olympics. That's his moment. Yeah. So this is... I'm telling you, I think this isn't going to end well. No! He is going to do some nasty stuff after this. He can only put up with so much of this. He's going to let the Olympics get over. Going to give it a couple of weeks, probably around the six-week cycle time or maybe thereafter. It might distract from the cycle. And he's going to do something nasty. Well first, what he will have to do is

26:33 in the middle of the night, if we keep up funding the crazy radicals, and this may truly spin into some kind of... it may spin out of control, it almost feels a little bit like it, I don't know who's in control right now. They're supposed to be a truce. Shooting each other down. Yeah, they're supposed to be a truce, but everyone... they're killing each other, exactly. He will have to send in Russian troops in the middle of the night and clean this up very, very quickly. After the Olympics and you know we'll see what happens from there, but I don't I don't If he sends in Russian troops in the middle of the night, which is the way he'd do it He's done this before yes, and he has to be careful because we got we've got eyeballs everywhere. Yeah, well It doesn't even matter it will will make it look like he's bad doesn't matter whatever the case is is that he's gonna come in and we're not gonna be able to do anything about it

27:24 No, oh absolutely not, but I think it's what we want. I think this is you think well You think we want him to come marching in yes? I I believe this is a problem interesting theory. I believe it's a pure provocation so that we can make him look even worse Well, there were some elements of that in the Georgia conflict. Which was started by Georgia, I'd like to remind everybody. Everyone thinks that Russia started that, but it's been universally admitted. And I believe it was our goading and fancy websites, as you recall. And then also Venezuela, which is another Russian ally, is being

28:08 Annoyed maybe we can put it that way right actually the Venezuela situation is quite interesting and entertaining What do you what do you have on it? What are you learning? I mean? This is going to turn over the government. I don't think the Ukrainian thing will maybe it will But it's going to be very violent. The thing going on in Venezuela, especially with this guy who's the opponent, who turned himself in to the police to show that, to become a martyr, a martyrized, imprisoned, kind of taken on the Mandela type of approach. Maduro. I think the Venezuelan thing is we can't do too many of these things at once and I think

28:53 We used to have some control, I think we've kind of set the thing going, but I don't think we're that involved. I think it'll just be natural, it'll probably be a better result than this mess up with Britain. A better turn out. We'll sell more tickets. The Ukrainian thing is like, I think it's just typical when we meddle too much. We got Newland down there canning out cookies, we got the economic hitman's girlfriend going back and forth. I think that this, so if this was provocation and this was pushing and I'm not quite sure why it had to be done right now because this now it's personal. I think it had to be done right now because we got to do everything we can to, we really went after the Olympics. I mean it seems like petty.

29:43 But I still personally still think it's got more to do with Snowden than anything else. It has the pipelines and all the train and all the rest of it. I looked at the Snowden angle again and I was thinking... There's a number of us. So let's say so Putin isn't it's it's his move. He he's gonna have to make a move by the way There's also Iran, you know Iran is they've they've they've stopped the Iran Pakistan pipeline So this these are all Russia's allies. The only one we really haven't messed with that much yet is China But I think that's coming too. I think I see Kerry already shaking a stick. I And I'll say and I'll take it back to these skull and bones guys. Look, Kerry's dumb. The guy's dumb as wood. He's truly a moron in my mind. And did you watch that climate change speech by him in Jakarta? Terrible. I had to pull some clips because the man is not well in the head.

30:42 He's truly insane and he really has visions of grandeur. He thinks he's doing a state of the union and there's like 20 Indonesian kids. He always sounds like he's doing a state of the union. But the things he's saying, we have to listen to the science clip about how he explains science but I truly think that something's happened John, something happened within... Something happened, I got a job. But there's strings being pulled and Kerry is the facilitator within the State Department. I don't think Obama has this under control, I seriously do not. This is just...

31:23 No, I think your point that you made that the best point you've made is the fact he was caught off guard about the Ukrainian situation had to be it was Seated in a wooden wood paneled room. Yeah ad-libbing. Yeah when in fact when you see him standing in front of six Seven flags six it was always six like six six flags always standing in front of six flags with his little comes to the podium and make some supposed off-the-cuff comments from his Teleprompters, then you know he's in you know he's got he's in in on it this thing here was ludicrous So we have Ukraine we have Syria which essentially John Kerry our representative

32:04 The Geneva 2 blew up after he started saying oh, no I'm sorry Geneva 1 protocols are still in place that means Assad has to go after Putin actually saved Obama's ass on that whole deal with the weapons with the chemical weapons and and this is this is what they get in return and the Wall Street Journal now I think this was a report on MSNBC. I can't read the Wall Street Journal because of the firewall, the paywall, the whatever. Just put the headline into your browser and you'll find the article someplace else. Well I think it's funnier when you get MSNBC telling you, reading it for you. That's much easier. Because I'm pretty sure the Skull & Bones guys are running this operation too. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the administration is revisiting plans ranging from expanding efforts to train and equip the moderate rebels

32:52 to even setting up no-fly zones, which they had said was something that at the time back in last August and September was something that would never be on the table. Meanwhile, assistance could include paying salaries to some of the rebel forces and providing more transportation and intelligence. Hey, you want a ride? We'll give them 10, 10 an hour, minimum wage. Your salary's there as government contractors and a no-fly zone? Wow, you can't do that with Russia Russia runs the port there. You can't just set up a no-fly zone That's so this is act of war. I think that's just a title threat I think I don't know why they said that why it was brought up in the conversation I do not believe they will do it as you because you're right. That's exactly the problem what you just said. This is Russia's port and

33:42 They're not gonna have a no-fly zone over anything they do, unless you want to jet shot down. Right. So what they say, they make the idle threat of the no-fly zone, but then make a very realistic threat of some transportation, I don't know, Metro Bendy bus, I don't know what they're sending down there, but paying salaries? That's ludicrous. I wonder who leaked that information. It was a mistake. So Carrie's talking about sanctions, everybody, Kiev burns, Russia and Germany talk together. This feels very, very East and West Berlin-y to me. Well, the funny thing, I like the theory and I think it's interesting that you'd come up with that. There's something, there's a couple of screwy things about it, that's for sure. There's another aspect of the Ukraine that's

34:46 kind of offbeat. There's a little, one of the states of the Ukraine which is at the very southernmost tip is called the Republic of the Crimea. And I never heard of it until I heard this report on France Van Kat. Why don't you play this and it's kind of interesting. Let me just see. Crimea Republic. Roger. What do they talk about when they're there behind closed doors? We don't know. I would bet you a pretty penny that a lot of it is about Ukraine and what's going on there right now. We have some Kremlin advisors, some pretty top notch people that we never talk about. Guy named Sergei Glazyev. Let me put his name out there. We've never mentioned his name, I don't think, on air.

35:30 Big Kremlin advisor, he called actually indirectly on Ukraine's leaders in an interview, a recent interview in the Russian press for Yanukovych to crack down on the opposition demonstrators. Basically saying what we haven't heard Putin say explicitly. This guy has Putin's ear. The Republic of Crimea, have you ever heard of that? It's on the Black Sea coast, autonomous region. Well, it's basically a region of southern Ukraine that is two-thirds Russian. It's part of Ukraine, part of Ukrainian territory. There have been stirrings of separatist talk in Crimea. Now, a lot of people say far-fetched, it's not going to happen. Territorial integrity is very important to Ukraine.

36:08 But the fact they're talking about it also sort of shows that there's stirrings, Russian nationalist stirrings on Ukrainian territory. These people see the protests as a clear and present danger to their very well-being on Ukrainian territory. Crimea, we don't talk about it that much. And I don't, I think it's a lot more than that. This is, of course, it's ludicrous to think that all of Ukraine wants the freedoms and democracy of the EU. Bullcrap! These people, they're not stupid. They know what goes on. These are educated people and they're like Occupy Wall Street except they do something and fight. Which is kind of disgusting when you think about it. How our president was arresting and making sure Occupy Wall Street people were arrested until they completely hijacked the whole movement. But when you talk about it in other countries,

37:01 Oh no, that's just for democracy and the people want to be part of the West. Bullcrap! I want Texas to be part of Russia right now. That sounds a lot more fun. Putin would be a great president. He seems like an okay dude. Played it did brought up a point played in my pussy riot in Sochi clip because there's a little Commentary where the girl from pussy right goes on and on about something and I'm thinking she's obviously never been to the United States at the Winter Olympics a protest against Russian President Putin drew a violent response today in Sochi

37:36 Cossack militiamen with horse whips beat and manhandled members of the punk group Pussy Riot as they tried to perform. At least one person was bloodied, but police made no arrests. Later, the performance artists did manage to stage a show and insisted they won't be silenced. In the countries of Europe and the United States, there is no real understanding of what is going on here in our country. There is no security for those who express the civil political position. These people might be beaten, some are raped at police stations, killed or put into jail regularly. Our goal is to tell the truth about that as loud as we can. All right, let me play my pussy riot clip, which does not have an interview of this propagandist who clearly works for Amnesty International.

38:23 You need to see this video in the question before you play the question I have to ask is when she her description that people get thrown into jail They get beaten you know it I can find that like right off the top of my head I can start looking this up on the internet and we can find places right now where people are getting by the police department being beaten up yeah tased thrown into jail tased and Tased or worse, I've got a clip for later. But think about how ludicrous this is. When you see, so the whole video, and this was, these are actors.

39:00 Cossacks with horse whips? Really? Yeah, you see what these are like these I watched this thing Half the guys didn't have the right costume. One guy had one guy had camo pants and and so people are upset because you see at one point this guy has a whip and he he and I have to say he hits the pussy riot girl pretty hard. On the butt. Yes. We however like to shoot 10,000 volts of electricity through our drunks. So who is the horrible person here if this is indeed true? And then they're pushing him around, they're yelling, they don't arrest him, and then they walk away.

39:43 It was like a bad high school play. Members of the Russian punk band Pussy Riot told USA Today... And we discussed this, how beautiful the whole idea of Pussy Riot is because you don't recognize these girls. It's the outfit. It's like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They have ski masks on. So as long as you have a neon ski mask and You know then you're a pussy. Take the masks off. Well. They were pulling one off at one point sports They were beaten with whips by military members. They don't think that Can you find? Cossack military I looked there's no I can't it's an old term that yeah somebody said hey Call up to Petaluma Leo's probably got some of those crazy hats

40:35 You know, the ones with the red on top. That's great! We can use those. This was acted. Outside a downtown Sochi restaurant Wednesday, Russia Today got it on film. According to the Associated Press, six group members, five women and one man had put on their signature ski masks and were pulling out a guitar and microphone when at least ten Cossacks and other security officials moved in. when Kostek appeared to use pepper spray. Oh yeah, that was another good one. So he sprays like Miracle-Gro at her and then she forgets that she has to be in severe pain and then she waits like, oh, oh, oh, oh, but nothing like actual pepper spray. Well, you're down on the ground. If you get pepper sprayed, you're stopping.

41:22 She just was, you know, it was miracle grow. Another whipped several group members while others ripped off their masks and threw their guitar into a garbage can. The group's attorney told USA Today Sports by phone that three members of the group had been hospitalized after the attack. Bullcrap. None of them were just standing there. They didn't have to go to the hospital. Pussy Riot had chosen that location to film for a music video. Yeah, all right. Very good. Very good. That's why they had the cameras running. Amnesty International, good job. Very good. And we got to talk about our NGOs, but I just, for those of you living outside of the United States of Gitmo Nation, have you probably, so you saw Keith, Keith, Keith Burning.

42:14 live on television and Europe was interested in this. You know, this is Yugoslavia. We've seen Balkanization before of these kinds of states. So this is nothing new. It's unfortunate that it has to happen again and that we're behind most of it. So what do we do in America? Let me think. Oh yeah, no, I know. Let's get right to the breaking news this hour a new terror alert that could affect millions of airline passengers in the United States and around the world. The US government has now issued a warning about the possibility of shoe bombs. That's been our chief national security. Okay, this is clutching at straws to the extreme. We had the toothpaste bomb. Yeah.

43:01 I was thinking of this in a more of a meta way and the shoe bomb is a first it was you're right the toothpaste bomb which was a week ago because that was just before so she began so she's been running for a little over a week now and now right in the middle of so she we've got these the shoe bomb and I've thought about this because we're a couple of weeks away from the six-week cycle and they've been fine-tuning it on us to the point where they've had dual events that of lesser importance in the last two events. Right, right. So they're pointing at an airport or something somewhere. So there's this all this stuff going on so they so I'm gonna assume they're gonna have two events again and I think what they do a lot of research if I'm doing this I am doing focus groups I'm doing research I'm doing analysis I'm doing polls

43:48 And I think that they were getting, I'm just guessing, they were getting some feedback as what are they doing to protect us? Because the answer to that is apparently nothing right so now I believe we're gonna see on almost a weekly or at least a 10-day cycle Something like this to show that we're actively involved in protecting the public and there's something relatively new about this quote-unquote breaking news that I the minute I saw it I was like oh my god, I And I think you can hear it in this clip. Listen to the background because the video was running continuously on all the screens in the in the Brolf studio.

44:33 Let's see if you can hear in the background what the subconscious mind programming is that's going on here. Correspondent Jim Schuette, he's got the details, what do we know? Well, this is a new warning, it's issued directly to airlines and our understanding that it's based on new intelligence gathered by the US and other countries indicating terror groups have been working on new shoe bomb designs. This affects overseas flights coming into the US. Okay, you hear it? It is already TSA. Okay, you're hearing explosions. What they're showing is they're showing an airplane test explosion. They're showing cars exploding. They're showing just explosions that apparently now you're supposed to make the connection between... There's a shoe hanging in the shot and then the shoe explodes, John.

45:22 Kid you not this is this is what you yes a shoe policy for passengers to take off their shoes going listen security checkpoints to be x-rayed a law enforcement official said that passengers as a result of this new warning may notice additional searches including Explosive detection swan rewinding the real be clear there is no specific threat or plot to I'd love this. They do this on all the reports. I got two of these reports myself and all the reports they say that's exact same. It's as though they're told to give this disclaimer. Let me, what is it, new shoe bomb? Is that your report? Uh, let's see, I got a couple of them. I got the CBS one which would be official.

46:00 I have a PBS one somewhere in there too, but you can play the CBS one. There's another developing story tonight, a warning about a possible terrorist plot, a warning to US Airlines. Wyatt Andrews has been looking into this. The Department of Homeland Security has directed airlines with flights inbound to the United States to be on alert for explosives, possibly hidden in shoes, liquids or cosmetics. I ask you a question. If this is something that's happening overseas, why is it only the Department of Homeland Security? Shouldn't this be CIA or some other agency involved if it's foreign actors?

46:42 I think they have this this uh... They have that in their portfolio you think? I'm sure they do. Sources emphasize this is a general warning not one based on a specific threat and that the alert has been issued in an abundance of caution. An abundance of caution. Be safe citizens. Hold on a second. This is nothing but an abundance of caution. Do not be alarmed. However, your shoes may explode as well as your toothpaste. Do not be alarmed. This is just abundance of caution. Resume normal activity. Screaming for shoe-based explosives has been routine at airports since 2001 when Richard Reed tried to detonate a shoe bomb on a flight from Paris to Miami. He's now serving three life terms without parole but terrorist groups are still trying to perfect that kind of attack. Now is this going to lead to the only guy who knows how to do this, the secret bomb maker? Is that the lead? No, curiously. Now somebody

47:37 screwed up that's a good point i didn't think of that either that's the guy who should have yeah where it should have led budget sources say those terror groups have recently stepped up the discussion of shoe bombs to the point where officials felt the need to inform the airlines hey muhammad How are your shoes doing? Oh, you know my shoes My shoes they're very tight. I like that make my foot blow off I have a blister that's about to blow this is really maybe you should prick it Just two weeks ago the airlines faced a similar warning that focused on possible explosives in liquids or in toothpaste tubes but that alert centered on flights inbound toward Russia and possibly the Olympics. This new alert is for the United States and is not thought connected to the Olympics. All right let's listen to the it says news ho bomber so I guess that's an

48:34 News new shoe a new warning has gone out to airlines over possible bombs and shoes The Department of Homeland Security issued the alert but declined today to give details of the threat It's unclear if this is related to earlier warnings about explosives hidden in toothpaste or liquids on flights to Russia So and of course, there's no actual statement or anything on the Department of Homeland Security website which I always find to be a complete disservice. I do give the news hour credit. They did do the read without any reporting, which is like, at least they got it out of the way without bullcrap. I want to take you back to Brolf just because it really shows you the level

49:15 of mind control programming that is being thrust upon the poor citizens of the world but primarily the United States. And again, listen to the background. An intelligence official told me this quote. An intelligence official, unnamed source. This threat is not specific or credible enough to require a specific response. But be afraid! The DHS often issues alerts out of an abundance of caution. Now I spoke with CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen to get an understanding of what kind of groups would be capable of this and here's what he said. The DHS warning is non-specific but the universe of people who have desire and capability is not large. There's Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. It's Al Qaeda.

49:57 I love Al-Qaeda. And so whenever you want something serious in American news, you bring on a Brit. Bring on a Brit who can't pronounce Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda in the Republic. Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Continues to put underwear bombs on planes. Really? Al-Al Qaeda in Yemen continues to put underwear bombs on the plane? They're continuing? Apparently. Hey! Let me show me your underwear. Continues to try and put cartridge bombs on planes. I don't know nothing of their continuing to put cartridge bombs on planes. I don't know this. There's been no alert. Why don't they grab some of these bombs and then make a big deal out of it like they did the last time? Yeah, that's crazy.

50:37 I love the little yell. Who's this guy in the background yelling? They're showing Al-Qaeda training on the monkey bars. They're using the old footage of the monkey bars again. They're using old B-roll from the 2002 era? Yes! Yes! Yes! Now you remember only two weeks ago there was another warning regarding terrorists attempting to use toothpaste tubes to conceal explosives. That tied specifically to flights from the US to the Olympics in Sochi. And you know, Wolf, this is a path that terror groups have been interested in for some time, going all the way back to 2001. You remember Richard Reid, who tried this then. And it's something that US intelligence agencies have been focusing on. They want to know if the terrorists are trying to find a new way to do this. They believe they are. So here's a case where out of an abundance of caution, they are sharing this information as widely as possible. How many times are you going to say abundance of caution?

51:24 That was in the talking points, abundance of caution. This is all about abundance of caution. That's a show title by the way. Abundance of Caution, write it down. Does it mean that they know a group has this capability now or is going to use it now? They don't even know if a group has the capability. Wait a minute, I just heard that there was talk about, escalated talk about shoes, they don't... What? But it does mean they know that they're trying this kind of thing and they want to be careful. Is there any indication it's linked to the timing of it to Sochi? Wow, good read, Brolf. There's no indication of that and as I mentioned we had this toothpaste bombing. That was linked specifically to this. This is linked only to that intelligence that they've been working on new designs. There is no intelligence. New designs!

52:08 Apparently we now have Jimmy Choo explosive shoes, pumps, Prada. Particular target in mind or date in mind. And we're talking about flights. It is after all London Fashion Week. Originating overseas and coming to the United States. That's right and that's where passengers might notice additional measures. You know those swabs they take to look for explosives residue on your person or on your baggage. That's the kind of thing that passengers coming to the U.S. might see. So, so, um, yeah. So I think whenever we talk about these kinds of things, we just always have to, you know, make sure we have explosions in the background about the new, the new, new, new design of the shoes, John. It's really...

52:48 They're really beautiful looking, these new design shoes. Let me mention something here, which is possibly, this is maybe instigated by one of these creeps that runs these companies that manufacture product. Oh yeah. That swab device, which I've seen in use at most American airports, they usually have a couple of them. I've never seen in Europe. Have you ever seen it there? Now let me think for a second. Well Schiphol Airport, and of course we have flown from Amsterdam to Austin via Atlanta multiple times. If it is a KLM flight...

53:28 They only have a body scanner, but you can opt out and they don't even put you through a metal detector. They just do a pat down on the spot really friendly and maybe 20 seconds to friendly 20 seconds. No, I've complimented the the Dutch. That's what I'm saying. Yeah You know the bag check is okay if you fly on Delta which is the KLM partner it's basically the same flight with a shittier crew and because the dutch crew is kind of nice. The american, oh, old grumpy. But don't they share flights so they have the same flight number you get on a KLM or the same flight number you get on a Delta? Yeah, you gotta know what it is. Which is which. Yeah, you can mess it up seriously badly. You want the KLM flight. So if you leave Amsterdam on the Delta flight,

54:21 Then they do an interview, but the security screening is exactly the same and I've never seen a swab machine. Ah, this is to sell swab machines to the idiots in Europe. These things can't be cheap. I like your idea of the setup for the Six week cycle better it makes that makes more sense Yeah, I know but you follow the money these swab machines are a great thing to sell to these guys. Yeah, this is true Yes, swab the shoes. They wear you must swab all shoes. What you don't have one of these machines ah order one today Well you know what it's my mission to make sure we get done on time today So I would like to you mean after a three and a half hour show last so we're sitting around the dinner table And so we come up with this idea

55:10 It's either an idea or a threat. I'm not sure which. Which is, one of these days, we do our show, but we don't end it two hours and 45 minutes. We just keep talking. We don't end it three hours and a half. We just keep talking. And we go as long as we can, possibly 12 hours, with one extremely long show. Really? And then we go on vacation for a week after that? Okay. What would the possible outcome be? Or what is the thinking behind it? It would be like a promotion.

56:01 I guess it would be kind of like a promotion. Like a wacky radio promotion. Those guys are saying, it's rock till you drop night here on No Agenda. I don't know if we do 12 hours of material but sometimes we have a lot where we're in excess. Not always. What might be good is to do 12 hours but then revisit all the stuff that we've discussed. I'd continue to get new people into the show who will say things like, I can't believe you didn't talk about that. And it's of course we probably spent four, five, six weeks on a topic that they bring up, but it was two years ago. Yeah, no, we talk about a lot of the stuff people are wondering about, but we've talked about it months ago and sometimes you're right, a year ago or more. We have to learn how to revisit that and

56:45 remind people about yeah I think it's important that it's important I'd rather have people bitching and then just go listen to all 592 of them find out where it is yeah anyway back forever anyway so I hope to do two and a half hours today and with that I'll say thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C Dvorak well in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning to all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames all the nights out there And all of our human resources in the chat room no agenda stream calm good to see y'all Thanks to our artists Martin JJ did it again for episode 5 9 or 2 no agenda art generator calm Looking forward to what will be submitted for today's episode Always always enjoying make sure to keep our pictures out of it. Yeah, and or episode numbers so we can read numbers are no good Exactly. No good. Yeah

57:40 And don't steal the art. Be your own. So we are running quickly towards episode, show number 600 which will be big for us. And we are offering special executive producer titles for anyone who joins the 600 club. And today we welcome a few new members. Sir Dr. Sharkey is at the top of this list, $600 from Jackson, Tennessee. Joni and Chachi, to celebrate the massive defeat to the UAW in my home state of Tennessee, I've decided to donate once again to the best podcast in the universe. Please de-douche the entire workforce at Volkswagen for this. And how about some Jobs Jobs Jobs Mac and Cheese Life Karma with some You Will Obey thrown in for your courage.

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59:27 Railjet railjet will be be rail just that's a carrier. Yeah That no, I think that's their High-speed rail. Oh the high-speed where the OBB railjet yeah as wireless so is your 600 shows coming up? I need to make a $600 buck 600 buck. Sorry donation to make night I've decided to back up to $200 donations from five three six and five six three interesting with a With a bolus it says donation, I think it means bonus. To help you get going and to get me over the line finally. Can you do a mac and cheese? This is interesting. I always love these coincidences. Can you do a mac and cheese? You will obey.

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1:04:14 Brett Mahoney came in from North Quincy, Massachusetts with $400. You guys provide a great value. And now that I get a refund check from my university, I wanted to round out my knighthood. I also liked hearing Spearfish. I liked hearing Spearfish SD donating to the podcast. Oh, I see. So somebody named Spearfish donated? No, we had Spearfish South Dakota. Oh Spearfish South Dakota, that's right. We had two, didn't we have two people from there? Yes! Yes. My birth state needs to keep up the donations. Let's keep the jobs going. He's from... South Dakota and he moved to Massachusetts? Wow. Let's keep the jobs karma rolling for the college students and the veterans like me trying to get a job. Last but not least, stop the rain sticks. Boston keeps getting pounded by snow. These are not snow sticks. I'm blaming you for my body aches from shoveling California can live without with the drought. Now these are rain only. These are not snow sticks. I agree.

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1:05:59 I need every drop to get through this. Bukkake. I think it's pronounced Bukkake. The 21st is my 25th birthday. I, sounds right. I am competing in a DJ competition for Anchorage's Best Club DJ. It would make, mean a lot if you guys could give me a DJ name drop to record and use in my set. Oh, okay. Shane does he have a DJ name? It's a Shane O'Hare all right. Let me let me give this a shot Well, let's do that right after I finish reading okay As always thank you so much for the show I find myself listening to each episode multiple times you guys are doing amazing work and providing excellent product shouts out to Royce Kukami and geek Geek scape net last thing I can I hear John say what bitch I

1:06:50 Always makes me laugh Shane O'Hare and he's Candy Lace 3 Pennsylvania Avenue or Kilo Lima 3 Papa Alpha. All right I'll do the shout out. I got I got it from you He wants it's a name drop so he can use it in his set. Yes. All right. Here we go Don't look over there. I'm sorry. Don't look over here. Look over there. It's Anchorage's best club DJ Shane O'Hare's they what bitch Okay Come on. That was creative. I guess it was good. It was your surfer voice That's what you tell me is always the winner. Yeah, it's a good voice. It's a good voice I think you could have been more surfer. Thank you boy. Should I do it again? Yeah, do it one more time with more, but I want to hear the surfer surfer I want a guy just got out of water. Hey, don't look over here look over them. Oh

1:07:46 Hey, don't look over there. Look over here. It's Anchorage's best club DJ, dude. Shane O'Hare. Say what, bitch? Sorry, Shane. It's the best we could do. Sir S. What you get? Sir S. Russell Williams in Boise, Idaho. 26178. Adam, just wondering if you ever come close to using the sword I gave you on the Oat Bots. Yes, I have shown it to them once in a while just to make sure they remember. Please keep up the great work. I truly do appreciate all the work you two do, so I don't have to. No need to read this part on the show. Okay, we won't. Thank you very much. He's now a baronet. Sir Baronet Russell Williams. And finally, Daniel Carda. $211.33 from Littleton, Colorado. He has a note and I will... Hold on a second. Hold on. I gotta get on my horse. I left the note over. Hold on.

1:08:47 Yes, apparently as we near episode 600 we're doing schtick ladies and gentlemen. I really enjoy the past couple of shows where you've been totally skewering the mainstream media. I laugh as you lay bare the memes of their incompetence. Honestly, I'm continuously shocked this program is not listened to by 100 million people. This podcast probably should be required listening for high school and college students. Free men and women don't need to be taught what to think. They need to be taught how to think.

1:09:42 Don't always agree with what you guys say no, but it usually gives me something to think about as part of our value for value deal I'm including a check for two one one dot three three the numbers are built in this puts me within striking distance of my knighthood I have some bills to pay, but I think I can get my knighthood in April. I've already Got my title picked out. I'm looking forward to hearing my knighting ceremony. I'm also sending a check so fuck you PayPal and Visa Things are going great, but I'd like to request some general good life karma. I'd also request that mac and cheese jingle. There we go again. What? Really? I'm telling ya, this is the random number theory at work. These things happen in bunches. If we were at the craps tables, we'd be rolling in dough. Wait, wait. He wants a karma mac and cheese jingle and don't eat me Hillary. Oh, where is she?

1:10:32 Okay, let's see if we can... let me see if this is the right one. Yeah, that's the right one. Yeah, I think I removed the wrong one, finally, after all that. Okay. Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. Did I get everything there? Was that it? No, you just have one little thing to say. It's like the challenge issue that challenged all the boners out there. If once a month you just gave up one precious latte and sent the cash to the best podcast in the universe, these guys could afford to keep up the media's slandering for decades. If not once a month, then how about once a quarter? Maybe John and Adam should offer seeds.

1:11:11 No! No! No seeds! You say that sarcastically. Keep up the good work, he'll keep listening. I met someone here who wound up hanging out with some of the guys who work for the seed man here in Austin. Oh, the seed man. The seed and water filter man. Yeah, that guy. Do you know how many people work for him? No. 60. What?! Yeah, but you know where they work? No. In the warehouse. What warehouse? Hello, the seeds, the iodine. The seed warehouse? Yes. Oh, he owns the seed company? Well, they're shipping, they ship everything from their own warehouse. They got the seeds, they got the water filters, they got the iodine, they got the coffee, they got all this stuff. They got these healthy products.

1:11:59 So essentially he is just just a home shopping network He's got the warehouse and he's in the warehouse, I don't know if he's in the warehouse But he's got 60 guys working for him in the warehouse the pick and pack Yeah, it's it's well, I don't know he's it's legacy I don't know I was blown away I was saying whoa Before we move on, two quick PR mentions. There will be a No Agenda San Francisco meetup on Wednesday 5 p.m. at John Collins on Mina Street, which I've been to. It's a night that was right around the corner from our old place, John, before it got torn down. Yes, John Collins is a little bar. In fact, it was right across the street, wasn't it? I think it's on the same side of the street. That place across the street they tore down. So the note specifically from

1:11:11 No! No! No seeds! You say that sarcastically. Keep up the good work, he'll keep listening. I met someone here who wound up hanging out with some of the guys who work for the seed man here in Austin. Oh, the seed man. The seed and water filter man. Yeah, that guy. Do you know how many people work for him? No. 60. What?! Yeah, but you know where they work? No. In the warehouse. What warehouse? Hello, the seeds, the iodine. The seed warehouse? Yes. Oh, he owns the seed company? Well, they're shipping, they ship everything from their own warehouse. They got the seeds, they got the water filters, they got the iodine, they got the coffee, they got all this stuff. They got these healthy products.

1:11:59 So essentially he is just just a home shopping network He's got the warehouse and he's in the warehouse, I don't know if he's in the warehouse But he's got 60 guys working for him in the warehouse the pick and pack Yeah, it's it's well, I don't know he's it's legacy I don't know I was blown away I was saying whoa Before we move on, two quick PR mentions. There will be a No Agenda San Francisco meetup on Wednesday 5 p.m. at John Collins on Mina Street, which I've been to. It's a night that was right around the corner from our old place, John, before it got torn down. Yes, John Collins is a little bar. In fact, it was right across the street, wasn't it? I think it's on the same side of the street. That place across the street they tore down. So the note specifically from

1:13:01 Night Sir JD is a No Agenda SF meetup and 2030 Cyber Force kickoff. Apparently next week marks the annual gathering of cyber security professionals in San Francisco. Is there some kind of Moscow meeting? Maybe an RSA conference? Could be. Come join your fellow No Agenda nights producers and cyber professionals for meetup Wednesday 5 p.m. John Collins on Mina Street and I expect people to take pictures and bring us a full report. And then thank you, can't remember who got this for us, but youwillobey.us was available and I think it's only fitting that that now forwards to noagendashow.com. You will obey US? Yeah, so you will obey us. Wow! I know, isn't that one of the better ones? How do these things become available? It does baffle me too.

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1:15:01 I got so much positive feedback on the idea of us becoming a non-governmental organization. We are! Well, but an official one. What does that mean? Well, it really doesn't mean anything. You don't have to be non-profit. You really only have to register and there's a number of places you can register. One is with the United Nations. Now United Nations might be interesting for us. I discussed this on the show. I'm sorry? I tried to do this, you know. Yes, I know, but now I have in the show notes I have the actual links. But here's an example of emails I've received. This is from Ben. Hi Adam. After many years of sysadmin work I find myself between jobs.

1:15:46 It would be much less social and professionally awkward if I could tell people that I'm with the N-A-N-G-O instead of looking for work even if it's a non-paid position. What do you say? Can I join the team? I'd be happy to provide a resume as well as professional and personal references to be clear. I just want to tell people that I'm with the No Agenda NGO. I don't really want to do any work. I feel, yes, I feel this is what an NGO does. I feel this opportunity could really help me get back on track as a respectable wage slave. So I hope you'll agree to this. Well, I think we can come up with something. Maybe we have a donation amount, John, that allows people to become a member of Nango.

1:16:25 which of course is what it is now. Nango is our NGO. And we have... Nango. Nango, that's great. Yeah, and I think we have nango.net, we have noagendango.com. We're in. And I have a theme for us. I have a theme and I know how we're going to be incredibly successful and this is in part thanks to Africa. Because as I was looking into everything that is going on in Africa, I hit upon At least five different NGOs, every single one of them, are of course there to protect and promote LGBTQIAAP2S rights. This is how we're going to take over African countries.

1:17:20 The non-governmental organizations, just like they did with Russia, will be talking about... First we'll start with the Uganda Kill the Gays Bill, which has now been changed but apparently has been signed by the Ugandan president. It's an anti-gay bill. It truly is an anti-gay bill. If you're gay and you know it, you will be sent to jail. However, if you want to repent and become un-gay, you can get off. Let's rephrase that. You can get out of jail. 37 countries I think what I what I read from these NGOs in Africa if there are 37 have anti-LGBTQQI laws and we've got things like what do we have here the gender dynamics NGO in fact if you just do a Google search on LGBT the point

1:18:14 You want us to be a gay NGO? Yes. That's no good. Hold on a second. I believe that we can become a LGBT, pro-LGBT NGO. In fact, I've registered the domain name, knowagender.com. I like that, that's funny. No agenda. This is no good. And I'll tell you why I think it's no good. It's way too limiting. I mean, the Human Rights Watch has got... they can come on any show and talk about anything they want to. This puts us in a bind where we're not gay. Let me explain. You or me are quite curious. You're not going to come on and represent the gay community. I think it's an insult to the gays. No, may I please explain why this is a great idea?

1:19:05 Okay, this is talking. This is going this is why I say Africa. We need to be we need a base in Africa We have some producers there. We need to have a PO box in Africa because this is how we are going to take over African countries What does not work people don't we talked about this people don't care about Africans because certainly not in America They think it's just people in the jungle. I And when you say Africans, they're saying, ah, these Africans, whatever. But when you say gays, then all of a sudden the conversation changes. This is going to be, we can get ahead of this game, John. You're going to have one of our guys set up a PO box in one of these countries

1:19:50 representing a gay NGO. He's just gonna get arrested and beaten and thrown in jail. We can't have that. But think of the money we can raise. Self-identifying, get beat me up. Think of the money we can raise. The money. Yeah, what's the problem? This is great. I don't know that our gay donors are that substantial. It doesn't. Well we'll talk about this in a minute. Straight people will donate to our gay NGO. Yeah well if we had more of your Obama bot people I'm sure that's true. Well this is what's going to happen in

1:20:28 Africa. I can feel it, I can guarantee you that even the president is... Yeah, but it gives us a short-lived NGO. I like the no agenda. That kind of works. Yeah. Because then you can bail from that, you know. The no agenda. Okay, look, do you have a better idea? No. Because this is where it's headed. The president came out with a statement yesterday about the anti- You're gonna go on CNN representing a gay NGO. The first thing they're gonna ask is are you gay? And you're gonna lie and say I'm gay? No, no, I'm not saying a gay NGO. No. I am merely following Chelsea Clinton

1:21:18 Who is also, and you know the Clintons are all over this, this is the proof, and it's not gay John, it's LGBT. I can't remember all those letters. I like it when it was just LGBT. Well no, it can't be that anymore. Even Chelsea Clinton, here she is at human rights campaign, and she'll give you what she's standing behind. I've often been asked why issues of equality are so important to me. And frankly, I never understand why I'm being asked that question. Because to me, this is fundamentally about the premise and the promise of our country, of always marching toward a more perfect union. And I was raised in a family where inertia was not an option.

1:22:12 If we are not making progress, we are by definition falling behind. My mother has often said that the issue of women's rights is the unfinished business of the 21st century. That is certainly true. Now that is old Clinton. What is she promoting? And by the way, she is now a full-time director of the Global Clinton Initiative. But so too... are the issues of LGBTQ rights, the unfinished business of the 21st century. The unfinished business of the 21st century! No agenda! Hold on a second. Didn't she just say women's rights for the unfinished business? No, that's what her mom says.

1:23:00 She said her mom says women's right and she takes it, she as the new director of the Clinton Global Initiative says LGBTQQIAAP which is the true... She just said LGBTQ. If we all continue to work together in the not too distant future every child whether LGBTQ or straight can go to sleep every night. Do you, this that really bothered me that line. Whether LGBTQ or straight. Where am I in all this? Here we go again. Well, where are my rights?

1:23:37 I'm not LGBT or Q and I'm not straight. And you're not a child. There you go. Knowing that they're safe and secure. Safe and secure. And can dream about who they want to be and where they want to live. And who they want to love. Without those dreams being shadowed. I want to determine who I can love. Alright, here's the deal. I'll compromise with you. You get some money from this operation. this Clinton operation that wouldn't give the Haitians anything, that they have to bring in billions. And then I'm in, I'm in on this deal. Alright. You gotta get, you gotta have a meeting with Chelsea. Well she's coming to South By, so I'll hit her up. She's been at South By Southwest, there should be no security around her. You'll be able to go right up to her and introduce yourself, she probably is an old fan of yours. Remember me from AMTV? Point your hair.

1:24:29 By the way, did you notice that the American ice dancer looked just like you? No, no, it does not look just like me. Oh, yeah, when I first saw him dancing around I said, that's Adam. Then I realized you can't skate. So... All right, and then to close this out, actually I can skate but not like that. To close this out, it is now official and this is the full... You're either straight or LGBTQQIAAP. and what is new and actually... Hold on a second. LGBTQQIAAP QQAA? P. AAP? Yes. Okay, I want to... What are these? What does this mean? Okay. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, bicurious, transgendered, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies, pansexual.

1:25:32 I kid you not. This is really true. I kid you not. Pansexual. People attracted to others by individual personality, not gender. And you are in this. You're an ally. Straight people then what it's it would then it would be LGBTQ QIA a P or straight yes or straight or straight or boring What you assume Yeah, that differentiation is that the straights are all homophobic. Yes. Thank you. This is where it's going This is where we're headed

1:26:13 So in other words, you can't be straight without. This is fantastic. This is the greatest analysis you've ever done. What you've shown here is that now it's going to the point where if you are straight... You're a homophobe. You're a... automatically. By definition. By literal definition. You're a homophobe. That's right. Holy mackerel. You fag-hater. However, if you join the NOAA Gender NGO with a small donation, you can become an ally. Know what I'm saying? Wow, that was a long way to Tipperary. Yeah, but it's worth the trip. It's worth the trip, huh? Anyway, okay, onward. I did find some other things going on in Africa. Of course, we still have this thing going on in the Central African Republic. We need to continue to look at... In fact, someone alerted me to the Fashoda incident.

1:27:17 The what? Feshoda incident. Gesundheit. Thank you. The Feshoda incident or Feshoda crisis of 1898 was the climax of imperial territorial disputes between Britain and France in Africa. A French expedition to Feshoda on the White Nile sought to gain control of the Nile River and thereby exclude Britain from the Sudan and possibly force the British out of Egypt and Feshoda is where the The Congo and the Nile intersect. These rivers are extremely... well, the Nile of course, without doubt, are extremely important for anything you're doing in Africa, whether it's for shipping stuff out or just industrial stuff, having water. This was... it happened in... was it Kodok, I think? This is just history repeating itself in the scramble for Africa.

1:28:15 Which has always been imperialistic. This happened before and it's exactly the same thing with the difference now that there's also an interesting Market to sell to and who else is in on it is the universities Let's see the What is the name of this fund? There's this huge universities in America are incredibly rich and Here it is, London-based Emergent Asset Management run by former J.P. Morgan Goldman Sachs currency dealers and they are buying up large plots, on behalf of the universities, are buying up large plots of land in Africa. Maybe to sell to the Chinese. Well, funny you mention that here. As for the American universities, much of their money is being channeled through Emergent Asset Management

1:29:09 They may have invested up to 500 million dollars in some of the most fertile land in the expectation of making 25% returns. Interesting you bring up China. We have the Forum on China-Africa Cooperation coming up and China is, they're really doing it in a very interesting manner. And everything you hear out of Africa is the Africans like the Chinese because they don't try to fuck them immediately. That comes later, but after they built some roads and some infrastructure and some nice stuff. And where is this? What is the next one being held? Everyone's joining this, the China-Africa cooperation. Yeah, cooperation. Hold on, where is this?

1:30:02 Shoot, now I can't find it. But this is the one we have to look out for. Wow, I wish I could find that exact... So they have a meeting coming up. Sorry, I can't find it that quickly. And you know, it just looks like we're fighting for the waterways. Anything that has the water, anything that can close in on the minerals and the oil. And if we can kick out Chinese who've already done the groundwork, that's even better.

1:30:40 And we're going to use it, we're going to do this all under the guise of we have to stop African dictators from killing LGBTQI AAPs. That's the strategy. Alright, have at it. You are now the chairman of the NGO. Nango. Yeah, the Nango. N-N-N-N-N-N-Nango. I think Nango is pretty good. Let me see, someone, someone, I thought we had Nango.net, let me see.

1:31:16 I know Nango.org is gone. Maybe someone else, maybe another no agenda person registered Nango.org, which would be a little more appropriate. Here's a letter I got. I work in marketing with a client based out of Kansas. Clients spoke with me about a company called path are P a th AR that is showcasing their new social media software analysis program It apparently does a deep dive and provides more data than ever before. It's the same old song and dance I've heard for a dozen times from a dozen vendors and I've told this was the brainchild of some CIA guys and This piece of information slipped out during some joking around, but I don't think they were joking. I laughed because the deck was 33 slides. I got suspicious and started doing research on the company, the trademark folks, etc. There's a trademark thing and the rest of it. Not sure there's anything here, but it's kind of an interesting, I thought it was something. I looked into it. There's this cool company and they got offices scattered around, but what

1:32:15 What draws my attention to them, you can look at their website, they talk a little bit about what they're doing. They are essentially going to, this is a company that goes and looks, it takes the Twitter hose, whatever, you know, you can get the hose, you can buy the hose, right? Takes the Twitter hose, takes your Facebook stuff, and then does deep analysis, but when you look at their description that they left for themselves on LinkedIn, I just got it there's two things that attracted my attention one is that they register through an anonymizer run by Network Solutions of all people. I didn't know they did that but they do and it says we build the world's most dynamically advanced commercially available end-to-end solution for creating actionable intelligence from big data.

1:33:06 You know that right okay, that'll work. Yeah, okay? Yeah our proprietary intelligence engine powers do NAMI our web-based software platform do NAMI Combines breakthrough advances and analysis network and advanced analytical techniques derived from long-standing intelligence practices Doonami's broad capabilities are being used to find, understand and predict the behaviors of thought leaders and organizers of any type, including identifying extremists, criminals and others who are inciting potential violence around the globe. We're gonna get shut down. I think there's just another... And they do this based upon Twitter analysis?

1:33:48 It doesn't say I I extrapolate. Ah, this is all such bullcrap. It's all bullcrap I know I wish we had one of these companies. I think oh, but I forgot important thing John Nango, it's Swahili for equality. Oh cute. Yeah, it's not but I thought it would sound good. Oh more bullcrap Well, you know the way they found these the guys who were they had the leaders of of the movement, what was it called? Occupy Wall Street? Occupy. You followed this, right? Where they just track their phones. Yeah, they did everything. So they got the... well, what they did, these guys, a lot of these guys were posting... the trick to stay anonymous was to buy a used laptop

1:34:39 go to Starbucks, open up an account with a fake name or just get your free, buy a latte and get your password. And then you do all your planning and strategizing in the coffee shop. And then what the security guys, the NSA did is they paid no attention to any of that. They just saw where the stuff was coming from. Then they tracked all the phones that were lit up in the coffee shop. and then by process of elimination figured out who it was that was on the computer writing whatever they're writing and then they went and harassed them, busted a few of them. It's a great... people... only people in their right mind would have a phone on them that was alive. I mean I think you are ahead of the curve on this. I have no phone. I do not carry a phone. So you wouldn't be in a coffee shop typing into an anonymous computer and be caught. You wouldn't be caught.

1:35:33 No. Unless the cops are right outside. Yeah, but I've even... I just, I do not carry a cell phone anymore. I've just opted out and I do not miss it one single minute. I have an iPod Touch with only a few apps on it. Why even have that? I don't mind connecting to a Wi-Fi spot here and then, you know, just to do certain things, but I don't like broadcasting my position all the time. That's really what I don't like. Yeah. That's just unnecessary. I just don't need to be... I love the idea of having a network in my pocket. God knows I don't need to call anybody. I got a network in my pocket. Yeah. Or you're just happy to see me, big boy. Yeah, exactly. I wish. Yeah.

1:36:25 Your turn. Inequality. I have a question for you. This has now become the buzzword and you watch, you know, we're seeing more and more hatred towards rich people in America. Yeah, but I like the latest Tom Perkins little innovation. He wants to make it so whatever your net worth is, you get that many votes. I didn't hear that one. Yeah, this is a guy that you're defending. I'm not defending anybody. Don't put that on me. I was going to ask you a question about inequality. Yeah, it's bad. I think this would all be leveled out by a wealth tax, but go on. Do you want to hear my question or do you just want to spout off non sequiturs? I'm waiting for the question. You keep interrupting me with insults, quite frankly. There's no insults involved.

1:37:15 Is inequality, is income equality, because that's almost the same thing, it's being synonymous, is that a zero-sum game? Because the way it's being shown by the mainstream prostitute media is the rich people are hoarding all the money and I don't believe that's the way it works and it's literally when you talk about even the 1% 99% implies that these people have all the money and they're not letting you have it but I don't think The economy works like that. Like, it's not like one pool of money and these people keep it and there's no other money. They're all holding it in a big bunch. Yeah, that's kind of what the charts make it look like. This clearly cannot be true. This is my money. Well, there's a thing called the money supply.

1:38:11 Right, which kind of makes it a zero-sum game if you think about it in those terms Well, we do have more money coming in all the time Well money coming in all the time usually takes money to lure money now the money is coming in all the time from all sorts of ways and Yeah, it's not technically a zero-sum game Or technically it is I don't know what's your point? It's not a point, it's a question. Oh, that's the way it's being sold. I'm gonna take this, I'll take the side, I'll play along, I'll play your game. Yes. If somebody has a billion dollars and I have one dollar and then and there's and the money supply is a billion dollars, yeah, yeah, I have to get money from that person or I won't have any money. All right, okay. Well, I'm happy that you take that side because this of course would

1:39:01 justify killing rich people for their money. I don't have to kill the guy. No, you won't, but other people will. Well, I think there's a lot of potential for heads on a stick. Yeah, but it's going to be the rich people and not the politicians. This is the funny part about it. It should be the politicians. It's not going to be the politicians. They're the ones who are Well of course they're the ones who are being played but they're also the ones that are responsible for not being played. They're the rich people. If you're a rich guy who has been using politicians to get more rich, it's the politicians They're the ones we have the control over. We don't have any control over the rich guy. The rich guy can do whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. And if he's got some bonehead politician in his pocket, does whatever he says, you know, for some chicken feed, you know, or so he can dance around, you know, or the guy shoots bullets at his feet while making him dance, that sort of thing, the politicians have got to be voted out. These politicians are horrible.

1:39:57 They're all, half of them are corrupt. That new guy, that guy was caught doing the porn movies in Africa. What a background he's got in Chicago politics. Yeah, that was a real winner. Those guys are great. Yeah, and the guy who took his job when he got kicked out the first time and then pardoned by Bill Clinton or commuted by Bill Clinton, that was Jesse Jackson Jr. that ended up in that district. Right, and isn't he the guy that... And he's in jail. He's in jail as well for misusing campaign funds. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, obviously, just that little bit. Yeah, no, it's all politicians.

1:40:41 I'm on your side when it comes to if you want to give the rich folk a break. Yeah, there's nobody forcing the money down their stumped throats. There's nobody forcing them. You know, they're doing what they do and they get a lot of they leverage, they're good at leveraging. I mean the thing that was an eye-opener for me was finding out that Elon Musk Yeah. Must be a genius. This Tesla car operation, you know about the $35,000? Well, here's what I understand. When I heard this, I don't know if it's the same thing you're talking about, every car company in America has to have a number of electric vehicle credits.

1:41:24 And so you can either make a vehicle or a hybrid or you can buy the credits from somebody else. And apparently, this is what I understood, because of the design, etc. of Tesla, they get three credits per car they make so they can sell, and this is I think where your 35,000 number comes from, they can sell that to the other car manufacturers. Right. It's like a carbon credit exchange. Exactly. It's beautiful. Who dreamed that up? Well, I don't know if he did, but whoever did is indeed a genius. And it may be Musk. Someone came up with that and it is beyond genius. I don't believe it. I think Musk knew of it. I don't think he's... I don't know of Musk being that type of a businessman where he's, you know, marketing by getting legislated. That's old school. That had to be somebody that's been around that could even come up with that one. Well, that would have to be Moritz then. That's the Sequoia guys.

1:42:21 Sequoia Capital, so it's Mark Moritz or one of these guys, they are old school badasses. Badasses. They're the guys that invested $8 million in WhatsApp and are reaping the rewards significantly from the Facebook purchase. And they know, and it's also old school because it's just the government buying another great database, let's be honest. This has nothing to do with Facebook's advertising model. So yeah, these guys are and I think Kleiner Perkins is dead in the water compared to what I mean these deals are huge and the electric car thing for Tesla, Gene, yes. And I think they knew that you know I think that that's also what Kleiner was trying to do with Fisker but Fisker, their cars just kept burning up.

1:43:15 Yeah, it was not... The car itself was not engineered well, it was designed well. And you know... Shit car. That Fisker guy is the guy who designed the exterior of the S. That's crazy. Really? Yeah, Fisker is the... Fisker apparently is one badass car designer. Right and it seems to me that after that the Fisker if you ever see one of those little sports cars on the road They're very attractive now, and there's yes is beautiful and it's a bit and it's and it looks like it looks just looks like a modern car wait wait wait wait no you're talking about the Fisker or the Tesla the Fisker if you see one of those on the road the little sports car it's pretty it's very Striking it's pretty

1:43:54 The Tesla S is also striking but it's not abnormal. It looks like a good looking Jaguar. Why, if a guy like that's floating around, this Fisker character, and he's now got to be broke because of his company, why doesn't Chrysler or Ford or one of these companies just gobble him up? Well I was thinking something different. Because this we've talked for a long time with nap for humanity and carbon credits How can we get in on some of this and I was thinking? What is the bare minimum requirements to get some electric vehicle credits could that just be a go-kart with batteries? I don't know we find the law that

1:44:37 That this could all be bullcrap for all we know because we have not actually seen this law We just heard about this and it could have it also could be bullcrap to prop up the stock price of Tesla Which is way over price crazy right now. I think it's going to be a great short for somebody someday well I think that's coming up the the last thing they did was all Elon Musk had a Conversation with the M&A guy at Apple. No, you know, that's pump and dump, you know, that's bullcrap courses bullcrap. Oh Well, while we're on this, John F. Kerry, the megalomaniac, skull and bones man who was the front man for some kind of New World Order takeover of the United States government, in my opinion, brought up a name... He was taken over by the security state that began in 1947.

1:43:54 The Tesla S is also striking but it's not abnormal. It looks like a good looking Jaguar. Why, if a guy like that's floating around, this Fisker character, and he's now got to be broke because of his company, why doesn't Chrysler or Ford or one of these companies just gobble him up? Well I was thinking something different. Because this we've talked for a long time with nap for humanity and carbon credits How can we get in on some of this and I was thinking? What is the bare minimum requirements to get some electric vehicle credits could that just be a go-kart with batteries? I don't know we find the law that

1:44:37 That this could all be bullcrap for all we know because we have not actually seen this law We just heard about this and it could have it also could be bullcrap to prop up the stock price of Tesla Which is way over price crazy right now. I think it's going to be a great short for somebody someday well I think that's coming up the the last thing they did was all Elon Musk had a Conversation with the M&A guy at Apple. No, you know, that's pump and dump, you know, that's bullcrap courses bullcrap. Oh Well, while we're on this, John F. Kerry, the megalomaniac, skull and bones man who was the front man for some kind of New World Order takeover of the United States government, in my opinion, brought up a name... He was taken over by the security state that began in 1947.

1:45:26 Who's gonna take it over? No, no, he's he is running the world show. Okay, he's running the f Putin thing. So he goes to Jakarta, Indonesia, and does this speech, which is intended to be I don't know what he was thinking. But right off the bat, he brings up a name, which is very similar to what we were just talking about with this Tesla credit thing. You know, some time ago, I traveled to another vibrant city, a city also rich with its own history, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. As opposed to Rio de Janeiro, Portland? Yeah, right below Washington. This is just a small example of how idiotic this man is. You know, they're sitting in a big room surrounded by representatives from about 170 countries. We listened.

1:46:24 as expert after expert after expert described the growing threat of climate change and what it would mean for the world if we failed to act. The secretary general of the conference was uh he was a he was an early leader on climate change. Oh an early leader on climate change who could it be John? Who could it be? Who could it be? A world leader that was an early early so so Huh, it must have been one of Hanson's pals. I don't know. I can't believe Kerry mentioned this name. A man by the name of Maurice Strong. Maurice Strong, co-founder with Al Gore of the Chicago Carbon Exchange. Oh, God. And he told us, I quote him, every bit of evidence I've seen persuades me that we are on a course leading to tragedy. Yeah, for him and that carbon exchange.

1:47:22 That conference was in 1992. Okay. Now I pulled a number of clips from this and just all kinds of crazy dumb stuff but I believe we need to listen to John F. Kerry explain science. Yeah, right. I think it's long And when we get tired of it, we can stop at any moment because every second is insane. But this is very important. People need to know this man has a screw loose in his head. And it's- he only probably has two holding the head onto his neck. This man- Lurch. This watermelon head is dumb. The science of climate change is leaping out at us like a scene from a 3D movie. Alright. Woah! Woah! It's 3D!

1:48:21 It's warning us, it's compelling us to act. I compel you to act. And let there be no doubt in anybody's mind that the science is absolutely certain. Are you ready? Do you think you can handle it, John? The science. It's something that we understand. with absolute assurance of the veracity of that science. Something we understand with the absolute assurance of the veracity of that science. Wow, Kerry, wow. Bullshit! No one disputes some of the facts about it. No one disputes some of the facts about it. Whoa! Who's writing this for him? He is, I'm sure. You're probably right, you're probably right. An example, Liz, you know, when an apple separates from a tree,

1:49:21 Uh, it falls to the ground. Yes! Not always. No, no, no. He's comparing climate science with Newton's law, you see. Yeah, I know he is, but what he just said is not true. I could pick an apple, it doesn't fall to the ground, and it separates, and it separates from the tree. You're right. I grab it and pull it off. Yes, we'll give you a point for that. John C. Dvorak, you now are on the board with 10 points. We know that because of the basic laws of physics. Aha! No one disputes that today. No one disputes that. It's a fact. It's a scientific fact. It's a fact. Science also tells us that when water hits a low enough temperature, it's going to turn into ice. And he can't even tell us what that temperature is apparently, just low enough. When it reaches a high enough temperature.

1:50:07 It's gonna boil. Aha! No one disputes that. I don't dispute that. Science and common sense tell us. If you reach out and put your hand on a hot cook stove, you're gonna get burned. Do you hear? Are you just playing a harmonica or are you listening? I think he needs a little background music. But I want you to, I want to make sure you hear it. I'm hearing it. He said you're gonna get burned if you put your hand on a hot stove. I can't imagine anybody who would dispute that either. Well? Depends how hot it is. Well? Yeah, I don't know if it's that hot. Depends on the actual... Yeah? Depends on the actual temperature of the stove. There's a lot of variables in that one. Yes, I agree. So, when thousands of the world's leading scientists... Aha! ...and five reports over a long period of time... Can I stop and ask you a question here? Of course, of course. Yes, of course, please.

1:50:58 Wait, what is the point of this speech? If this other guy started ranting about this as 1992 and they've been how apparently I'm guessing hounding the public ever since year after year that the end is near where you know this is the last year was irreversible because all scientists agree it's irreversible it's been irreversible apparently since 92 and it goes on why are you going over the same old boring ground once again What is not convincing about this argument besides the illogic of it in general? What do you think he's thinking here? Well, a number of things. He sounds desperate. I think he's high, is what I think. I think he's stoned and people are just making him do stuff. But he is such an egotistical, narcissistic megalomaniac

1:51:58 that he gets, I think you're right, he writes this himself and he says, watch me scare these motherfuckers into existence. I'm gonna scare them so they want to be on board with climate change. Yeah, but it's only 50 school kids. I don't care. So I think this is a test run for him. He wants to see what gets picked up. For instance, this is the quote that some people picked up. Or think about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. It doesn't keep us safe. If the United States secures its nuclear arsenal while other countries fail to prevent theirs from falling into the hands of terrorists, we all have to approach this challenge together, which is why altogether we are focused on Iran and its nuclear program or focused on North Korea and its threat. The bottom line is this. It is the same thing with climate change.

1:52:56 And in a sense climate change can now be considered another weapon of war of mass destruction perhaps even the world's most fearsome weapon of mass destruction. That was over quoted everywhere. Yeah, so that's so that that got picked up. Yeah, that's kind of cute. He probably is proud of that one. They didn't pick up on this one, which was the big stupid mistake, which I thought was funny, but the United States Simple reality, just as I talked about the scientific facts in the beginning, this is a fact. Fact! The United States cannot solve this problem or foot the bill alone. Fact! Even if every single American got on a bicycle tomorrow and carpooled to school instead of buses or riding an... Okay, Kerry, stick to your own script.

1:53:56 Buses are better than carpooling. Why does he... they carpooled instead of taking the bus. Ah, okay. He can't go off-prompter. No, no, he obviously had them. You can hear this fear in his voice when he says, I'm leaving the script now. I hope to get back. I hope they don't close the door behind me. Let me just get back to the facts. With thousands of scientists contributing to those reports, When they tell us over and over again that our climate is changing, that it is happening faster than they ever predicted, ever in recorded history, and when they tell us that we humans are the significant cause, let me tell you something. Alright. Whenever he does this, he's an ad lib. We need to listen. You will obey.

1:54:56 When 97% of all scientists agree, what happened in 98? Did we go down? Are we trending down? I think one of the guys died. On anything, we need to listen. On anything. And we need to respond. Whilst 97% of climate scientists have confirmed that climate change is happening and that human activity is responsible. These scientists agree on the causes of these changes and they agree on the potential effects. They agree that the emission of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide contributes heavily to climate change. I think because he mentioned Maurice Strong, and by the way, Kerry is rich. This guy is... Forget his marriage to the ketchup dynasty.

1:55:53 This guy is really, really rich and he has been, I think he feels so robbed by, you know, from his career that he, you know, he didn't, he really feels like he should have been president a long time ago. I'm not quite sure, you know, if you look at his history it's very, very interesting. All the things he's done to get into some kind of office and it just hasn't worked and, you know, they've pestered him because he's dumb. This guy's just a moron. I think he is so passionate about running stuff that you really have to be afraid of him. I think that this guy is extremely dangerous and when he goes off on this tangent about climate change and he's been on board with this for over 20 years, I shudder to think what this guy is really gonna do. And he seems to have a lot of irons in the fire.

1:56:53 They agree that the energy sources that we've relied on... I can't listen to him anymore, he's a moron. And then he talked about the California drought and all this bullcrap. But then there was the funny thing, sticking with Agenda 21, did you see Bill Nye the science guy debating Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn on Meet the Press? No, I don't watch Meet the Press anymore. Before you go off this thing for a minute, Want to mention if because he had this interesting statement that if you have 10,000 people all agreeing on something You'd pay it. You should pay attention to them. You need to listen you need to listen to 20,000 679 physicians

1:57:43 Say that Luckies are less irritating. Luckies? Lucky Strikes! Yes, and they calm your nerves. And more doctors smoke camels than any other cigarette. You need to listen. Another one of those things which I did not clip because everyone was playing that in the mainstream media where he says we don't have time for a meeting of the flat-earth society does he understand but does he understand that he's actually slamming himself by saying that because the flatterer society yeah, I mean who's all in the flat or when the flat earthers was the 97%

1:58:24 They said the earth is flat and then the story we learn at school of course is Columbus said no it's round I'm going he was 1% so why is he saying the Flat Earth Society are the crazy people? These guys are the Flat Earth Society. The 97% is the Flat Earth Society. We are the lone voices saying maybe you should take a look at some of this. Along with Marsha Blackburn who fought Bill Nye the science guy the CEO of the Planetary Society which pays him a nice $150,000 a year. That is by the way the society started by Carl Sagan and I find it atrocious that this comedian is the CEO of that. Yeah it's pretty funny. I'm going to point out some other anomaly here. The same people that are all in on all this are the same people that criticize for example any

1:59:27 Like a Monsanto funded studies and all these Dow Chemicals funded studies and there's all these studies done by these large corporations. Then there's the independent little study. You have, you know, 100 of these funded studies and one study that says the opposite, which nobody pays any attention to because it's not funded by anybody. They will be very adamant about, well, this is because These corrupt corporations are paying for all these studies. The Koch brothers. And the one guy over here nobody's paying attention to. This is the exact same thing that's happening with all these climate change studies. They're all funded by these big companies that they expect results. They expect you to come up, you get a pile of money.

2:00:08 Study this. Yeah, you study it and your results are like well Let's let's finagle the results because we'd like to get some money for another study And we're not gonna get it if we if we don't kowtow to these guys Which is exactly what happens with a lot of these studies you can you can twist them any way you want to you can leave out some data you can say well we were leaving this data out for some reason you can have a reason for it and I just, it's just beyond me. You can't see this. It's going to be taken one step further. New York Times yesterday, two days ago, a big article about retired billionaire investor Tom Steyer, Democrat, who founded one of the world's most successful hedge funds, will be setting up a super PAC to spend $100 million

2:00:59 It'll be called next-gen climate action by advertising for global warming, i.e. to promote the fact that it's true. And in fact here is the way the New York Times... How much money is he going to drop on this? 100 million. Okay. Well actually he says he is offering 50 million and wants donors to match the other 50 million. I'm starting to change my mind about your attitude on climate change, Adam. Yeah, me too, John. I think we should get a website going. We're wrong! Yeah, we're stupid! Yeah, we weren't paying attention to the science! This concludes this meeting of the Flat Earth Society. Next-gen climate action among the largest outside groups in the country, similar in scale to the conservative political network overseen by Charles and David Koch.

2:01:58 So he's going to be the antidote to the Koch brothers. Which will never get mentioned. No. And so this is very interesting. And it's specifically for advertising. Specifically. So that's a big deal. That's a really big deal, I think. There's money to be made off this guy. Can you change my mind? Yeah, no, you can. Yes, you can change your mind. All right, so Bill Nye, who is... A science guy. Who's a comic. He actually started off as a comedian. I thought he started off as an engineer at Boeing. No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on I think I think you're wrong I'm going to do the obvious. Hello. Hello. Hello obvious The Book of Knowledge stopped working what's going on? Oh, oh, oh

2:02:52 Wow, this is no good. I've got it up. The computer just froze. American science educator, comedian, television host, blah blah blah. Early life and education. Career. He began his career at Seattle at Boeing, where among other things he starred in training films and developed a hydraulic pressure resonance suppressor still used in the 747. Later he worked as a consultant to the aeronautics industry in 1990. He told the St. Petersburg Times that he applied to be a NASA astronaut every few years. He began his professional entertainment career as an actor at a local sketch comedy television show in Seattle called Almost Live. A show by the way that I, that was always funny. It was a local version of Saturday Night Live that was actually funny.

2:03:38 He attempted to correct the show's host pronunciation of gigawatt as jiggawatt. Oh, okay. And the host responded, who do you think you are, Bill Nye the science guy? Nye was thereafter known as such on the program. Okay, but we can agree he is not a meteorologist. No, no, he's not. No, he's like the engineer who did a hydraulic pressure resonance suppressor. So he is brought on to meet the press. Which, as you'll hear in a moment, was set up and had native advertising because of course what is all this climate change supposed to lead to? Natural gas. That's what this is all about. The president in a state of the union... Wait a minute, hold on Adam.

2:04:26 That's ridiculous because we all know that if you're really serious about climate change and you're worried sick about CO2, natural gas doesn't solve much. It drops the CO2 levels a bit. You have to go nuclear power. Well that would be insane because Fukushima. We're afraid. We're afraid. I don't want to build Fukushima. Okay, go on. Yeah, well the nuclear thing is not playing out too. Well The actual solution shall not be addressed so she goes he goes with on he's invited on meet the press why him? Who knows other than to shill for the gas industry which is which chip chip Gregory will bring up beautifully But he's on with Marcia Blackburn Marcia Blackburn actually is on She's Republican

2:05:16 Congress rep Congress critter she's on all of the committees she's on the here what is she following committees I think she's on the energy committee. She's on all this stuff and they do what she calls cost-benefit analysis. But she's not having any of this Bill Nye and I thought it was pretty cute the way she addressed him. If you could invent a better battery, a better way to store electricity, you would change the world. And if you were to do that in a way that you could manufacture and export it, you would also do very well financially. Congresswoman, is there new urgency to act? You've heard the president in drought-stricken California saying that these weather emergencies, in effect, are creating the conditions that government has to act.

2:06:02 David, I think that what it brings to mind is how we utilize the information that we have. And we all know, and I think that Bill would probably agree with this, neither he nor I are a climate scientist. He is an engineer and actor. I am a member of Congress. He's an actor. I love how she slipped that in. He's an actor. What we have to do is look at the information that we get from climate scientists. As you said, there is not agreement around the fact of exactly what is causing this. Even the president's own science and technology office head, Mr. Holdren, says no one single weather event is due specifically to climate change. One side note on this, about the actor thing.

2:06:50 I've been watching House of Cards season 2 and I am appalled to see Joe Scarborough, Rachel Maddow, and Ashley Banfield, all journalists, news prostitutes, acting in this series. I don't understand how they can do this and retain credibility. They can't. It's actually a conflict of interest. Rachel, but they all want to be actors. They don't want to be a news or talking ahead or they're just all actors. Well, they're pretty

2:07:35 Yeah, maybe they're actors already. That's what I'm possibly. All right. So here's a chip is going to bring up the real reasoning for this farce of a conversation between really two nincompoops. There is not consensus. And you can look at the latest IPCC report and look at Dr. Linsen from MIT, his rejection of that or Judith Curry, who recently from Georgia Tech. There is not consensus there. I think what we have to do is... Well, hold on, I just have to interrupt you. I'm sorry, Congressman, let me just interrupt you because it's not... Sure. You can pick out particular skeptics, but you can't really say, can you, that the hundreds of scientists around the world who have looked at this have gotten together and conspired to manipulate data, and that industry folks like PG&E... Here's PG&E's website.

2:08:20 It's current website, this is a natural gas producer in Northern California saying, as a provider of gas and electricity to millions of Californians and an emitter of greenhouse gases, PG&E is keenly aware of its responsibility to both manage its emissions and work constructively to advance policies that put our state and the country on a cost-effective path toward a low-carbon economy. So the issue is what actions are taken and will they really work? I love it! And throw the gas through the guys wait a minute hold on a second let me get this straight what he did was he points out he's finds the PG&E website which is playing to the to the public Because it's bullcrap. I mean they're PG and E is what their real interest is is making money as much as they can Yeah, but they put this up there because it just sounds good. Hey, where are we gonna put on the website? I don't know. Let's I got an idea bring in Sally She's got some some thoughts on this and so they put that bull crap and he uses it as documentation. Yes. Yeah, he's an idiot He's he's all he's promoting the party line. Oh

2:09:20 And then just my own little yucks here, we'll have Bill Nye, at a certain point he holds up iPad and he says the snow is melting in the Arctic. I think he meant the Antarctic so he screws that up and see if you can find this is a test for you John see if you can find the other fact that is a lie or at least not true spouted by Bill Nye the science guy so you'll have to pay attention find the other fact that is a lie. Once again the congresswoman is trying to introduce doubt and doubt in the whole idea of climate change. So what I would encourage everybody to do is back up and let's agree on the facts. Would you say that the Antarctic has less ice than it used to? When you said, you asserted, Congresswoman, that a change from 320 to 400 parts per million is insignificant, my goodness, that's 30%. I mean, that's an enormous change. All right, did you catch it?

2:10:23 Yeah, it's 30% number. Yeah, it's not it's 25% Yeah, okay. Well, that's a lie. The other thing he did say and to our Antarctic when it should have been the opposite. It's actually growing Yeah, and yes that Arctic and no one comes and goes and no one called him on it Not chip not that what I was gonna call him on anything. Yeah, not chips. He's the go-to guy Well, he's the face of climate change There's so many things wrong with that, even the 25% number. It's an enormous change. Well, it's a trace element, fluctuates. Anyway, okay. All right. Hey, should we thank some donors, John? That might be a good idea right around now. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Before we get started... All right, we got a few people to thank. Can I just do a few make goods before we get started, real quick?

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2:14:43 And they think it was me. But even worse, so in the documentary, the manager flips on the TV, they finally made it to America, and MTV comes on and it's Mark Goodman. And people also thought that was me. I mean, what's next? Arsenio Hall? Please. So no, I was not in the documentary. But, and so he felt so bad about it because he's like, it was great. He sent me the clip. I'm like, yeah, except that's David Coverdell. in the morning for the- yeah alright thank you very much. That was one of my better ones. Nick Bretson. Oh here we go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was too self-consumed For the big 269 69 swallows enough entries we have today this thing you know we shouldn't even played the jingle it's a G-long Victoria, Australia, and he was apparently discussing kale with his grandma hmm

2:15:43 Apparently in the 40s and 50s their family grew it in rural Australia as a decorative garden plant. Now you're talking! Yes, here it comes. It was also known to her as poor man's lettuce as they sometimes had to eat it when money was tight. And do you know that this case... so we go to the farmers market every Saturday and the farmers here in in Austin are either honest hard-working people but they're no dummies. They got kale, five bucks for a little head of kale. It's a total scam. It's poor man's lettuce my ass. This is elitist lettuce.

2:14:43 And they think it was me. But even worse, so in the documentary, the manager flips on the TV, they finally made it to America, and MTV comes on and it's Mark Goodman. And people also thought that was me. I mean, what's next? Arsenio Hall? Please. So no, I was not in the documentary. But, and so he felt so bad about it because he's like, it was great. He sent me the clip. I'm like, yeah, except that's David Coverdell. in the morning for the- yeah alright thank you very much. That was one of my better ones. Nick Bretson. Oh here we go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was too self-consumed For the big 269 69 swallows enough entries we have today this thing you know we shouldn't even played the jingle it's a G-long Victoria, Australia, and he was apparently discussing kale with his grandma hmm

2:15:43 Apparently in the 40s and 50s their family grew it in rural Australia as a decorative garden plant. Now you're talking! Yes, here it comes. It was also known to her as poor man's lettuce as they sometimes had to eat it when money was tight. And do you know that this case... so we go to the farmers market every Saturday and the farmers here in in Austin are either honest hard-working people but they're no dummies. They got kale, five bucks for a little head of kale. It's a total scam. It's poor man's lettuce my ass. This is elitist lettuce.

2:16:23 Well, you know, it's almost as though somebody's laughing up their sleeve. Yeah. Let's see if we can make people eat this crap. It is... In history, surely there have been things like liver oil or cod oil. Cod liver oil. Cod liver oil. I'm sure at some point that was the same, like, hey, let's get this really disgusting thing, tell people it's good for them, and they have to have a spoonful every day. That went out of fashion eventually. Well not in the Scandinavian countries. It turns out that the stuff is quite good for that disorder you get when the sun doesn't rise for six months.

2:17:04 Yeah, it's called depression. No, no. Cabin fever. There's a name for it. Cod liver oil actually works well to defeat that. And if you go to Iceland and you go to a grocery store and you go down the aisles, you'll find one aisle that's a mile long with a million different kinds of cod liver oil. They must just be slugging that stuff down like crazy. Really? Yeah. Seasonal affective disorder. Yeah. Cod liver oil cures it. So, like I said, you go to Iceland and you'll find an aisle full of cod liver oil that's just like a thousand brands of it. Well, maybe we can come up with a new packaging for kale and tell them that will solve it. I think they've come up with the new packaging for kale. Superfood! Yes, superfood, I know. Superfood. Crazy. I'm going to start calling it poor man's lettuce. Poor man's lettuce, yes. Poor man's lettuce.

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2:19:34 And it's almost like it. Here it is. I'll show you. Don't open any packages that are sealed with duct tape. No, but what he did with Fred, you'll talk for two minutes about something, then he sends me the movie La Cucaracha, which of course this is a very old movie and was the first, was it the first colorized movie? It's all in Spanish. Spanish movie DVDs. But then he also sent double nickels on a dime, which is $55.10. He actually has double nickels on the dime, two nickels and a dime, and then in between, that's why I didn't see it, he has the actual paper money. So thank you very much, Sergeant Fred. That's highly appreciated. And so we missed that on the last show.

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2:25:18 What did I do wrong? You took your sword out, then you took your other sword out and he had one sword in each hand and you knighted these guys without me. You almost chopped the head off of one guy. Well, I got tired of waiting for you. You know. I'm sorry. Don't take it personally. Here's the kind of thing we didn't get to in the first half of the show. I should bring it in because we can't lose, we can't take our eye off the ball. This clip is stray dogs at the Olympics. Twitter. Doing all I can to bring them home with me. This tweet was posted by Team USA Olympic skier Gus Kenworthy last week after finding four stray puppies on the streets of Sochi. The 22-year-old has posted these photos to Twitter and has become something of a hero online, with the stray dogs capturing the hearts of countless web users.

2:26:14 And the athletes clearly not the only one moved by the plight of Sochi's strays. Other online initiatives are also emerging. The Save Sochi Dogs Facebook page has been set up, for example, to appeal to international television networks, provide coverage of the issue and produce and air pet adoption segments with the dogs of Sochi in mind. And social networks are buzzing with messages and announcements. The team at Povodog, Sochi's first dog rescue shelter, has posted a message to their Facebook page saying they've taken in a hundred or so dogs since opening at the beginning of February. They've also explained how to go about adopting one before the Winter Olympic Games are over. Yeah, I think the Chinese delegation with the Philippines are going to grab a lot of those dogs. Yeah, we want some of them dogs. We're taking them back.

2:27:13 So this is just more bull crap to humiliate Putin. I'm not a big Putin fan, but this is so transparent. People lap it up. It's easy. Why not? I mean, everyone gets to do it. Lap it up. Hey! But it's true. People are so hypnotized into believing what Russia's really like. There's some weird stuff going down in Australia, Queensland. Now we had these motorcycle laws, I think we talked about that probably briefly, where the bikeys is what they're called. For some reason, I don't know, the bikeys were making trouble so you can't have more than three bikers essentially. No more than three in a room at the same time. But now- You can't have more than three in a pack. Now Queensland has introduced, and I believe this has passed now, has introduced new legislation

2:28:14 aimed at curbing quote out-of-control parties and these out-of-control parties the legislation is kind of like shut up slave so yeah I heard of such a thing in Australia no well here's I'm looking at the law here this is the and it's marked up for your convenience in the show notes 593.nashownotes.com. Part 7, out of control events. So there's the additional powers, the powers a police officer has under this part, part 7, are additional to and not limited by the powers police officers normally have. So there's a couple of definitions as to what an out of control event is when police can go in and arrest people and bust heads.

2:29:03 So an out-of-control event is an event... well actually it says here 53b. What is an out-of-control event? An event becomes out of control if 12 or more persons are gathered together at a place, 3 or more persons associated with the event engage in out-of-control conduct at or near the event, And the out-of-control conduct would cause a person at or near the event to reasonably fear violence to a person or damage to property or to reasonably believe a person would suffer substantial interference with their rights and freedoms or peaceful passage through or enjoyment of a public place. So then of course you have to ask what is out-of-control conduct?

2:29:51 Well, wait a minute. I was... Can you... I don't want you to repeat the whole thing, but what's the first part? If there's 12 people at a party, it's out of control by definition? No. If there's 12 people at the party and three or more of those people are engaging in out-of-control conduct. Okay. All right? So that's a you so if it's a party of 11 people no, then you're good to go So if I have 11 people I can put three people can go crazy. They're just shooting in the air and everything else Yes, okay good. However, you don't need to shoot in the air. The following conduct is out of control conduct one Unlawfully entering or remaining in a place or threatening to enter a place behaving in a disorderly offensive or threatening or violent way examples

2:30:41 Using offensive, obscene, indecent, abusive or threatening language. That's seriously out of control behavior? That means Tourette's guys can't go anywhere. Not if there's 12 of them. And then you can also be associated. Oh, also littering is also out of control behavior. Littering in a way that causes or is likely to cause harm to a person, property or the environment. What happened to Australia? They don't like to party. They love to party. Oh, well, then where they have where are they putting up with this crap? That's exactly what I asked our producers. Why are you putting up with this crap? You have to stop this. Well, this is one of those selective enforcement situations that we that are plaguing. They're doing the Russians are the ones who designed this concept. The fascist Nazis in Italy and in Germany, they took it to another

2:31:42 took it up a level and then the Russians took it up higher and then now we started to do it. And that is you pass a million laws so essentially you can't do anything without breaking the law at any given time. You're always breaking some law. There's always a law out there. Doing this podcast is probably breaking some law. Oh, several. We just don't know what it is because there's a million of these laws. It could be that maybe in Austin, Texas you're required to pay a fee of five bucks. to even be on, you know, have a microphone in the house. You don't know what it is. It could be. You never know. So the idea is you pass these stupid laws in Australia and then, you know, and then if the party is actually seriously a problem, they can come in and they've got statute. They can throw at you and handcuff you and kick you and beat you and whatever. Throw you in this slammer overnight. That's that. That's what it is. This is selective enforcement. It's just more bullcrap.

2:32:36 Well, it's happening in Australia and Queensland and I found that to be disturbing. Well, what I found disturbing was this thing, this guy, this character was arrested. It's a local story. This, um... Where is this clip? It's a cop... Davis, Stockman, Dirty, here the Dirty DUI scandal, play this clip and then this is what's going on with policing in this country. We need Pussy Riot to be complaining. A former Contra Costa County Sheriff's deputy broke down today just before he was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison. 50-year-old Stephen Tanabe told the judge he didn't think he was doing anything illegal.

2:33:17 Tanabe was convicted last year of taking part in a scheme that set up men going through divorce and coercing them into drinking and driving. The judge says he was concerned Tanabe did not see the red flags, but still gave the former deputy a shorter sentence than allowed by law. Punishment comes in different forms, obviously not just prison. But you know he's losing his liberty and he's going to be away from his children and he doesn't have a career that he's worked tremendously hard for all these years. Tanabe has two months to turn himself in and begin serving his sentence. He still faces civil suits filed by the men he arrested during the Dirty DUI scandal. Dirty DUI.

2:33:58 So here's the way I interpret this. There's a couple of problems with the story. One is that, can you imagine what black people think when they hear this story? Well, the guy can turn himself in. They didn't give him much of a sentence. The guy was pulling an illegal entrapment. scheme. Obviously I didn't get it in this part of the story but the way I see it, you have a lawyer or is it really a hard-ass divorce attorney who's got the female, the wife as the client. He's in cahoots with him, you're the The guy is like a normal, seems like a normal guy, he's at a bar, he's commiserating with you. Oh yeah, my wife, she's trying to screw me over in this divorce. Oh, have a drink on me. Have another one. Here, come on, they're on me. You can drive, you can... And then the guy takes one step into his car, he gets busted. And then the cop does, and apparently, according to this story, the cop didn't think this was bad. This was fine.

2:34:50 And this whole thing, this is the kind of, but it's just one of the more disgusting stories I've heard and what's really disgusting is that the cop doesn't realize that he was, this was just not kosher. This is, this is everything that's wrong with the police state is epitomized by this guy doing this to these poor men. Yeah, because they think it's okay. Yeah, they think it's fine. Hey, he broke the law. Yeah, good to go. And what's the problem? I don't see a problem. Anyway, that's my version of the story. General, uh, General Allen was at some... Oh yeah. Oh yeah? Yeah, I damn near clipped this. About Afghanistan? Yeah. Yeah, I thought this was pretty funny. So he used to run the Afghanistan campaign? Yeah. He used to run the whole shootin' shebang there? Yeah. Yeah, and he was happy to tell us why. Afghanistan truly has, in my mind, two great natural resources. The first is underground.

2:35:51 underground and we don't know how much the value can be attributed to the natural resources of Afghanistan underground but it's probably in the trillions with an S. I love that he's with an S. Trillions with an S. Trillions! No, I don't know what he was he talking about the lithium? I think the Chiners are going after while we're sitting around? And he wasn't talking about the Pobby. Pobby, that's why, by the way, which is worth a lot of money, that's why I think he specifically said underground. Ah, good point. Very good point. Yeah. And that's only the trillions from underground. We're not talking about the hundreds of billions above ground. Right. That's why I think you made that very clear. That's a good point. Let me just listen to that again. That was good. I like that. Two great natural resources. The first is underground. Underground. Or he's saying the first is underground. The second one is the human resources on top of the ground. That's that is his second point. We don't know how

2:36:53 Much the value can be attributed to the natural resources of Afghanistan underground, but it's probably in the trillions with an S. The extractive capacity of Afghanistan's future mining industry is really breathtaking. That is lithium. Breathtaking. It's breathtaking. Think about this. But it will require security to do this. Ah, there we go. It will require security to do this. All right, got it. At least we understand that finally someone's just telling the truth. It's about time. I like it. Okay. So our American companies are in there. He's getting a mammal in the morning, by the way. Yeah. Our American companies are in there and we're providing security for our American interests.

2:37:36 Well, it's fine. I'm okay with all that. I don't know why doesn't why doesn't everyone just instead of this? Oh, they want freedom and democracy Just be honest. Hey, listen, there's lots of stuff there The other great natural resource of Afghanistan frankly is the people and they're tasty Not quite sure what he meant by that one All right So the president is doubt was down in Mexico for one day one day only for what is being called the three amigos summit Had you heard this term, the three amigos? Actually I have heard it. I didn't pay much attention to it. They're calling it the three amigos summit but as Julianna Goldman pointed out in the last half hour not everything is rosy between Mr. Obama, President Peña Nieto and Prime Minister Harper. What are their main objectives on this summit?

2:38:31 Right, the Amigos may not be so friendly this time. They each have their own objectives. One of the objectives of Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is to get some progress on the approval of the Keystone Pipeline. That's not something that President Obama is interested in giving him, but Prime Minister Harper yesterday told reporters here that asking about Keystone will be part of his agenda. What President Obama would like to get out of the talks is some commitment to move forward on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. That's something that the three countries generally agree on, but there are a lot of details to be hammered out. And after more than three years of negotiations and 12 countries now involved, it's a trade agreement that

2:39:13 is not close to being wrapped up but it's something that president obama to move toward closure and uh... i i want to reiterate that my position on this is it's good i i'm i'm not I don't really understand why everyone is so... besides the New World Order aspect, duh. But Democrats are the largest detractors. Everyone's against this thing. Why is that? It seems to me this is our last chance. This is our job to find out. what the deal is. I do say this about the about the, as a performative, I want to mention something about this meeting. I'm totally convinced the only reason, why would you have this meeting in Mexico? That's because Obama could take a huge horde of people down there and few of them can split off and have that meeting with the Sinaloas

2:40:03 Well in Mexico because they're not gonna have that meeting with them here. They own, but they only met Obama flew back same day so yeah Well, that's all you need you go down there the guys got there was something that had to be do what that's what what was the point of? Rushing down there for just a quick meeting like that in Mexico if you're not gonna spend any time down there was to it was to deliver something a package a message Something they needed to get to the Sinaloa boys. You know that's very possible They got it signed off and then they jumped back in their plane and took off. You don't think it was TPP related? You think it was really Sinaloa? Yeah. My feeling was he needed to, he needed to, well maybe he had to deliver something to get him to pull him over the line for the TPP or something. I don't think it was about TPP at all. Really you don't? It was about the cartel and they, because there's, there's, there's stuff happening that has to be, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well this could have been a pot full of money for all we know.

2:41:00 Cash right Air Force one filled with pallets. It could be well. That's how we usually do it That's what our that Bowen guy the Steve Bowen who was at that Austin house meeting he was talking about pallets and pallets of money Yeah, just a couple pallets of money one pallet is four hundred Four hundred million dollars, okay? Well, they're probably couple pallets Wow. We don't know. I mean, there's nobody reports on anything and that those planes when they land, they're way out of the way from the out of camera view. Yeah. They park them in the middle of nowhere on the airport. Yeah. And they put the guy in a limo and the president drives on the limo all the way to the back, you know, to out of the place. It's almost like a private. Well, it is private.

2:41:47 So I was watching Democracy Now and this woman, the woman that talks like this, who's known as lawyer. Oh, this one, yes. So apparently now she's been detained. She's the one from It's debatable whether she's his lawyer, but she was a whistleblower herself. That woman? Right, the whistleblower woman. Yeah, gotcha. And there's something weird because she apparently went to England and she was stopped, but so she was meeting with Snowden, then she's going to England to meet with Assange. And I'm wondering, and then they're grilling her about Bradley Manning or Chelsea, which she never admits to. Well, just before you go any further and lead into the clip, I'm a little tired of all these people. I mean, Greenwald, now, you know, of course, his husband, the court ruled that the David Miranda detention, which, as we pretty much deducted,

2:42:51 or deduced was a setup he has no reason for him to fly through London. Right. These guys they're putting themselves central to the conversation continuously. Yeah. And and when you're reporting on yourself as part of the story it smells bad. Yeah and I think this is what's going on with this woman. Yeah. I don't know what her real relationship is to anybody and And the story she tells sounds like slightly crock of crap. And it's no worse than you when you were getting stopped all the time. For years. For years! Yeah, for the first two years of the show at least. And probably before then. And we were, you know, it was a good moment of humor for everyone to listen to your... your... grousing. ...travails as it were. But I wasn't complaining that the police state was out to get me. Well, she was. But let's listen to the weird Snowden lawyer.

2:43:45 Well, we begin today with the news and an attorney who represents the former government contract. Stop, stop, we're stopped. This is RT. This is RT America. This is the Russian show. Ah, that's very important. Makes a difference. Yes it does. Mr. Edward Snowden says she was detained and questioned by Heathrow Airport Border Force in London while going through customs. Jessalyn Radack was traveling along with former NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake to meet with Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy. Yesterday, Radack tweeted after her experience saying, I'm fine. Heathrow's border force was just trying to intimidate me. Who is Edward Snowden? Do you know him? Where is Bradley Manning? Where is Bradley Manning? And who is this Chelsea person? What have you done with Bradley Manning? Really? Really? To talk about what happened exactly, I was joined earlier by Jessalyn Radack herself from London. And I first asked her to tell me about what that experience was like.

2:44:41 Yeah, I don't, I mean everyone has to go through customs. I get that and usually you get the same questions about where are you going, where are you staying, how many days will you be here and that sort of thing. But I was directed to a specific booth at what is called Border Force, which is I guess a name they use for customs at Heathrow. And I was initially asked why I was there and I said to see friends. And they said, who? And I said, well, the people in Sam Adams Associates, which is an American organization. An NGO. Which is usually the kind of answer that I give on the last

2:45:28 15 international trips I've been on and then they wanted to know who was in that group so I named some names and then they did at one point. Here's what happened, I'll just interject here for a moment. She's reversing the order. So she arrives there, she is hot and horny for the limelight. because she didn't get a lot of attention as a whistleblower herself. She's in this Sam Adams organization who gave a candlestick to Snowden over there in Russia. And she comes in, they say, well, who are you here with? I'm with Sam Adams. Oh, tell me, what is Sam Adams? Well, you know, we gave an award to Ed Snowden! We gave an award to Bradley Manning! And then they went, oh, well, hello, maybe you should tell us about what is your relationship to Edward Snowden? She basically set it up herself for this to happen. Would you agree?

2:46:21 Yeah, sounds right. Three months and I said that I had a client there And they asked who and I said that it was Edward Snowden Wow and Is there something good in this report because she's annoying me to no end. This is Wow, really weird even weird. This is where it got really weird I should say who is Edward Snowden? That is so weird

2:47:00 and that just felt very strange. Strange? And I want to ask you about that. A whistleblower and a filey. That was extremely peculiar. I don't know. I mean, that's not peculiar. Our own government doesn't even know his first name. Our moronic congresswomen and men and senators call him Eric Snowden, Edwin Snowden. It's not crazy that the, by the way, Heathrow, 95% of the immigration's guys are Indian or Pakistani. So I think she should be doing the accent when she does it. Who is this Edward Snowden you're talking of? Because that's really what happened. And she came across as suspicious. Yes, very peculiar. Who on the planet doesn't know who Edward Snowden is? But I mean my answer was just very factual. He's a whistleblower and he's an asylee. He's what? What did she say?

2:47:59 He's a whistleblower and he's what? Emma Filey? Let's listen again. I mean my answer was just very factual. He's a whistleblower and he's Emma Filey. A what? Emma Filey. Emma Filey? Yeah, Emma Filey. What is that? That means it's at night he wears women's clothes. Oh, okay. And then after that, they asked me if I represented Bradley Manning. They brought up these names, not me. They asked if I represented Bradley Manning. And I said no. And then he did that same peculiar question, who is Bradley Manning? And I said, a whistleblower, which legally he is. And then the

2:48:50 the man asked, where is Bradley Manning? As if he didn't know. And I said, in jail. Is this woman in kindergarten and doing show and tell on Monday morning? There's a punchline if you back it up. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My goodness. Right when the punchline was coming. Yeah, of course. Of course I did that. which legally he is. And then the man asked, where is Bradley Manning? As if he didn't know. And I said, in jail. And he said, yes, he's a criminal or something to that effect. I mean, it was to make me feel like, okay, these people are not with the police. She spends all of her public's time with a shaggy dog story and she doesn't even know it was a joke played on her. Unbelievable.

2:49:39 She cannot be his lawyer. I don't think she's his lawyer. I'm with you on this. I think she's just a poser. Or she's the go-between for the Sam Adams award. She's the one who keeps, you know, she brings it around. I don't know, maybe it's in her suitcase. I have no idea. The candlestick thing. It's a candlestick. Well, this kind of brings us near the end of the program, I would say. So the... What is going on here? Something's wrong. Okay. So first look media, the people who brought you The Intercept, which is the incest as far as I'm concerned. It's only about Grand Gringo, and now of course... Hey, this is funny that you mentioned this. I have not looked at that site since the last show. That's how uninteresting it is. Yeah, it's not getting a lot of play because they're only writing about themselves.

2:50:40 They have, however, hired Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone. Really? As per full-time? Yep, apparently. They must have thrown some money at him. Yeah, he's going to lead their digital magazine, I guess similar to The Intercept, so it'll be about banking. He's a good journalist. I'm getting a little worried. I think this... if Pierre would drive my car, he's gonna suck up all these guys and kill them. Well, you never know. Something bad could happen. So anyway, The incest... All be in the same private plane. That's right. The incest writes about the fact that they have received, and they being Laura Poitras and Grand Riva D'Horat, have received the Polk Award. Now the Polk Award, named after a memory of George Polk, who was a CBS correspondent who was murdered while covering the Greek Civil War in 1945-7 something, a long time ago.

2:51:40 And if you kind of follow this, the Polk Award, I was following, kind of following it back. It's funded by INN, the Investigative News Network, which is very, very annoying to see who is funding that because it's the same suspects. Yes, in fact, I'll bring it up here. And they do okay, you know, they got a couple million dollars a year and they hand it out to well They spend half of it in salaries the funders of the investigative news network MacArthur Foundation the Knight Foundation McCormick Foundation Open Society Foundations, which is Soros the Rockefeller Brothers and

2:52:36 You know, it's like, when will it ever end? This is not independent. This is very structured. Strings attached, my friend. Lots of strings attached. Lots of them. And this independent investigative news network, they make software that they give to other companies. The web of these NGO companies that are news, so-called independently funded news, are not independently funded news. They're funded by some very specific people. And so it was kind of weird from a journalistic standpoint, although I'm not a journalist, to see Glenn Greenwald reporting on a report, so he's reporting on the incest, about a report on the incest about him.

2:53:25 That's how sad it is. And he'll actually refer to Salon published this in 1922 and then he points to an article that he wrote. I mean this guy is it's such a it's so recursive. Yeah, there is a lot of writers out there that are recursive. They're always pointing to themselves I mean I've done it, but I not to the extreme of people that I've seen do it almost Incessantly where they're they're right and say they're a columnist and they write the column I was so right about last week's column right and when in last week's column He talks about how right he was about the column before that. I

2:54:03 Or he goes, calls back, you know, it's just about, you know, and in the internet age it's actually more beneficial than it ever used to be because it gets more page views. Because you go, what is this? Click. Right. But it's not good form generally speaking. And he seems to just pretty much, yeah, come on. I don't know why we even talk about the guy. I have a better story I want to finish with. Okay. I'm sorry, I just think it's interesting because the only reason I bring this up There is such a fanboy ism going on of this operation this first luck first luck for first luck in the incest operation and people are blinded they're just blinded by money yeah well the people who are working there may be blinded by money but people are reading and you can see that these articles are not edited they're way too long and

2:54:55 You know, there's just this it doesn't it's they're too long. He's uh repeating over and over again This is not good. This is not in Waltz style tends to be repetitive. Yeah, and you'll say something Say it again and say it again, you know go off Wander off then he starts saying the same things that he said already twice, right? It's very kind. I don't know why they don't do stop him. So here's the I think the big story of the week is Everyone's picking it up and saying, this is great. And of course I'm seeing it as this is the beginning of the end, which is the FCC moves in on the internet. The Federal Communications Commission will draw up new rules for an open internet. A federal appeals court struck down a previous version. The rules were designed to ensure that broadband providers don't discriminate or block content on the web. Today the FCC opted to try again instead of appealing the court decision.

2:55:47 Right. Uh, who is saying this is great? Pfft, you go on Twitter. Oh, finally, I won't have to worry about Netflix being choked off by Verizon Fiber. Yeah, I've heard a bunch of people say it's great. I see it as just the beginning of the end. The FCC, we've talked about this incessantly on this show, has been doing all it can because it sees the future. Broadcasting is like the dead duck eventually. It's all going to be over the internet and they don't really have any way of, they don't have any control over what goes on on the internet. They have enough trouble, they've been trying to get cable, they've been trying to get their mitts on cable so they can put a stop to certain things.

2:56:28 But no, this is the wide open thing. Now they can get, oh, we're gonna be making some rules first. They start making rules and they start, oh, you know, that's bad, bad, bad for the government. We have to do some licensing, you get licensed podcasters. And then they're gonna, oh, you get fined because you said, you know, some shit, you said something. This day, this that came out is the beginning of the end. They're just, the Campbells, Head is in the tent Nice and Where'd you pick up this was this during your travels to the Middle East where you picked up this little ditty of the camel's head? That's a good one. Well the idea about the FCC. Let's see there was What was her name Baker? Meredith Baker was an FCC commissioner appointed by a Republican but appointed by President Obama

2:57:33 And she supported the initial Comcast NBC merger. And I think it was four months after the merger, she resigned and now she is the Senior Vice President for Governmental Affairs at Comcast NBC. Wow! Yeah, these people have absolutely no shame. Four months later, by the way. Four months. And she's not... I mean, this is just crazy. So yes, we'll have to see how this shakes out, but I don't see how any of this can... We just don't want any regulation. Somebody called me on this because I bitched about this on Twitter and I said, well what are you going to do? How are you going to keep these people from abusing the situation? And the abuse thing is very simple to deal with. You have, for one thing, you shouldn't allow these monopolies to exist.

2:58:29 You should have enough competition locally so I can say well I don't want this I got sonic.net here. That's what I'm using right now. That's competition. And they are the true I wish I wish we had a sonic.net here. And sonic.net doesn't screw anybody over and they're very a very nice little company. And there's other possibilities for competition, but they're trying to screw the competitors. They don't want them to compete because they just want just this giant monopoly. But if they allow for competition and then if people start screwing around, there's something called the FTC, the Fair Trade Commission. These are the guys who should be going after this thing about Netflix. They're just bringing a hearing and fine them. They're not regulators. They're regulators of free trade, essentially.

2:59:12 And when something like this happens, you can sue through the FTC. The FTC is a very strong body, an organized body. You don't need the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission. No. It's just not a good operation to be involved with the internet. And who's going to... Camel's heads in, we're done, we're screwed. Who's going to regulate the, or look at the WhatsApp acquisition by Facebook? Well that should be done by... Is that FTC? FTC? I would the FTC would be one of them and that's a good example they don't you know they're not tough on this stuff and I guess there's a the Congress is just there's two or three organizations that could put a stop to it nobody's putting a stop no no it's by the way Facebook wanted them bad man holy crap they'll own 8% of Facebook after the acquisition I didn't know that yeah yeah so it's huge and they get all this restricted stock that they're getting and

3:00:11 Yeah, it's about that Facebook or the or NSA whoever's really gonna fit the flip flip the bill and at some point It'll be a lot of money under the table who needs this database, but they're paying $100 a head Wow Calculation that's huge. That's like 10x. Yeah, I generally what's a head worth I thought was 10 bucks. Yeah 10 well of course this is and I believe this truly is for their real business and Which is looking at relationships. I don't think anyone's interested in what you're saying on on whatsapp But the the the group nature of it and the I think that's very very valuable I think it's very I did one thing I know for sure this is certainly not about getting me better ads when I want them That is such a farce and then I want to ask you one other thing are you doing twit today? You're not are you going up there? It's pretty hard to do on Thursday

3:01:06 Yeah, no, you wouldn't be doing that today. Oops, sorry. There seems to be a war on passwords. I just want to finish with that. On passwords? Yes, so it kind of started with Apple and the fingerprint. Well, it started with fingerprint technology in general. Now Google bought this company Slick Login, which, you know, there's this whole, there's a war on passwords and I'm not quite sure, well, I think it's wrong. I think it's, I think what it must be, because if there's any of these sorts of things that you're describing, it sounds like many of these operations and then the argument is commonly, oh, you can do all your passwords through this one operation. Yeah, exactly. You can keep track of all of them because it should all be different. Yeah. Even though anybody in their right mind has duplicate passwords, especially to non-committal, you know, who cares what your password is to some company that sells cables.

3:02:05 But regardless, I think- I think it's just to centralize passwords so you can crack them better. Yeah, it- the- but there's truly a war on passwords and you are too dumb to come up with a good one and remember it. That's basically what it is. This has been going on for years where they keep ridiculing the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 password. Right, which okay, that's worth ridiculing. And the corny password. That's worth ridiculing, but... And the password password. But this whole idea, I mean if you have a password in your head, it's in your head, it's nowhere else. That's the best place to keep a password. You know my favorite thing about the password password? What's that? Take, you know, people say

3:02:46 This goes back, I used to write a column about once a year on the stupidity of the public, but then as you look at it, there's a logic to the stupidity of the public. In the olden days we would say, press any key, people would look around for a key that said any on it. They would say, where's the any key? I don't know where the any key is. I don't know where's the... and they call in. I don't know where my any key is. Is this a fact? Yes. This is great. And the password thing, I'm totally convinced that 99% of the people that use it, it says right there, type in password. When they type in password, right. So you type in P-A-S-S-W-O-R-D, you're good to go. It opens it. Yeah. Unfortunately, I think you're really right about that. They're just doing what they're told to do.

3:03:32 That, well, hopefully no one listening to us eavesdropping on the conversation does that. But if you do, you'll probably never do it again. The ridicule is just too big. Okie dokie. Yeah, so we'll see what Keith Burning is up to on Sunday. We'll see how that plays out for Putin as we near the end of the Olympics. We may see it all unravel before us.

3:04:13 Well, we should make a bet right now. Before Sunday, troops, Russian troops into Ukraine or no Russian troops into Ukraine? No Russian troops before Sunday. I would agree with that. Because of the Olympics. Yeah, after the Olympics, a day or two, boom. But tears will come, that's for sure. Tears will come. All right, we'll be working away for you. We hope you remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We need all the help we can get. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody, my name's Adam Curry. And from someplace out west, West Sochi as a matter of fact, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Mac and Cheese Life. Mac and Cheese Science.

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