New World Odor

00:00 We were both criss-crossing Manhattan between the UN and the Global Clinton Initiative, but I don't think we were ever in the same place at the same time until the end of the day. That's often how it is during UN Week. That sounds like a horrible life. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, December 5th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 571. This is no agenda. Celebrating Scent and the Black Peets from FEMA Region 6 here in Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, FEMA Region 9, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. That's right, December 5th, tonight the good scent comes with this Black Peets in the Netherlands and Gitmo Lowlands.

00:53 and brings all the children presents and put them in their wooden shoes. No what? In their wooden shoe. You have to put your shoes outside, you see. When's the last time a Dutchman wore a wooden shoe? Oh, the Dutch farmers still wear them all the time. So the cows don't step. If the cow steps on your feet, then it doesn't hurt. Why don't you just get like industrial boots, you know, the kinds that we have, the steel toes. Well, the tourists don't like looking at that. Are you kidding me? Be realistic for a minute here. So, uh, so... So it is, yeah. Start off with a good start. Yeah. Bratton has been rehired as chief of police in New York. Can you believe that? Uh, and I, I, I care why? You don't remember this guy?

01:43 He was the tough guy who cracked down on crime. He's the one who changed the whole New York landscape. He's the guy that Giuliani brought in. He's the guy who made the difference. He's the guy that was hired to clean up Los Angeles. Yeah, this is the guy that got all the... took the squeegee guys and dumped them in the East River. We still don't know where the squeegee guys went in Manhattan. They're all dead. uh... okay apparently the stop and frisk policy is back on well it's not quite back on but it's kinda back on because apparently brat knows how to do it with respect could you please come over here so i can't resist a silly so this super liberal lefty supposedly you know these guys they get in there and they uh...

02:33 Instead of being liberal at all, they're actually more fascistic than the guys that came in earlier. And I'll bring to bear the point from this clip, which is Obama the mean bastard. I was wondering where you were taking this. Okay. As President Obama continued a recent tradition of granting a presidential pardon to the holiday bird just ahead of Thanksgiving, critics pointed out he's shown less mercy towards prisoners deserving clemency. During his presidency, Obama has pardoned 10 turkeys while he's pardoned or commuted the sentences of only 39 people, the fewest pardons of any modern president.

03:09 The turkeys, carmel and popcorn were granted reprieve at a ceremony at the White House on Wednesday. Now before these turkeys get away with the power vested in me, I want to grant popcorn a full reprieve. Popcorn, you have a full reprieve from cranberry sauce and stuffing. We wish you well. President Obama has pardoned two birds each Thanksgiving for the past five years. In both 2009 and 2012, he pardoned more turkeys than people. Overall, Obama has granted clemency to just 39 people. At the same point in his presidency, Ronald Reagan had pardoned 313 people. Harry Truman pardoned 1,537 people.

04:06 According to an analysis last year by ProPublica, which studied applications for pardons processed by the Justice Department, Obama's granted clemency to just 2% of applicants. To talk more about this, we're joined by Anthony Papa, artist, writer, noted advocate against the war on drugs. He served 12 years in prison for a first-time nonviolent drug offense. He was freed only after being granted executive clemency by then New York Governor George Pataki. Alright, so what are you saying with this? You guys are mean bastards. And here's the other thing. What is it? How come nobody's called him out on this? He is mocking the Catholic Church when he pardons the turkey. Why is that? He does the sign of the cross in front of the bird as though he was the Pope. Well, you know, it's funny because I didn't watch any of that or even read any articles because this is a stupid thing. And by the way, is this a leftover clip you had? This like Thanksgiving leftovers you're now serving up?

05:04 Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah, it's a clip that I didn't get for the last show, which was right after Thanksgiving, but it's still the pardon thing doesn't change. He's still not pardoning anybody. All these, you know, he's a big liberal about all these drug offenses shouldn't be criminalized and there's all these, there's still people all over the country that are in jail for years because they had a joint in their pocket. Wow, man. What side of the bed did you get up on? I'm just telling you. I got out of the, I I looked at the spreadsheet. That side of the bed. Oh, that side, yeah. That side of the bed. Not good. Let me go back for a second to it being the 5th of December. I can't quite really transition from where you are now, but I'd like to go back for a second.

05:50 the big black Pete conversation that that was ongoing for weeks started by some consultant who happened to have some grumpy woman grumpy woman who happened to have United Nations letterhead stationary laying around right that woman um so in the Netherlands of course this is over no one gives a shit anymore it's done the conversation yeah maybe in the next 10 years or so we might change of a rainbow Pete or whatever happens on the fifth on the fifth I think it's I don't know if it's the... I think it's the night of the 4th actually, so it would have been last night. Pete flies around... Sint flies around with his white horse and he's on the horse and he's... yeah, because he can, you know, hop on the rooftops. But it's the black Pete who then go down the chimneys and they put presents into the kids' wooden shoes. Are they black because they got soot all over them? Look, I don't really don't want to go into the whole black Pete conversation again, but no, they're just black.

06:49 And it's been going that way for 400 years. Is it because they're black that they put them down the chimney? Because who's gonna notice the soot? Yes, that sounds right. So this has been going on for a long time. This is terrible. Witness a member of parliament in Nova Scotia, Joachim Struyck. And Joachim was born in Holland. And so he was raised, at least for a couple of years, with this tradition. And of course, as a kid you believe in it completely. It's like Santa Claus. So recently he took a picture when I guess he was visiting a family in the Netherlands. Like at the mall you take a picture with Santa and he took a picture of him and the Black Pete's. And Nova Scotia freaked out. They're like, oh you racist! We can't believe you did this!

07:42 and he had to apologize. He was in Canada? Yes, and he had to apologize and here's live on TV he's crying. He's crying. Thank God, alright. Victory for the media. I do acknowledge that whole blackface culture has, there is no place for that in Nova Scotia nor in our culture. This is just the beginning, he starts to cry later. As well. And the intent behind that, there was no malicious intent whatsoever. This is a heritage, a tradition, a Dutch tradition that I grew up with and never ever in my deepest heart ever thought that this would be

08:24 portrayed in this manner, now looking back at it, I guess I can see how the blackface prospect is unacceptable. He's about to turn on his culture. Watch him go. This is how politicians truly are. He's going to turn on his culture or turn on his culture. He's going to turn against his own culture. Today's society and I think we're going to work towards finding that solution. How have you, what for you has been the balance I guess between looking at this as you say from your cultural background but then also obviously this new role for you as a politician and what maybe is or isn't acceptable for a politician. How has that balanced? Alright so this is the big question and this is this guy's political career in Nova Scotia. Everything hangs on this one answer. I'll be honest.

09:13 It's been incredibly hard. Because this is, uh... I didn't sign up for this. This is my, um... I did this because I wanted a better Nova Scotia. I'm finding that balance between... Sorry, guys. I'm really sorry. Please. I sat on the black man's lap! Finding that balance between an MLA and being at Yoakum Strike is, I feel that that's gone. I do, I truly do. My childhood has been stolen from me. And so I have to be respectful that I represent every culture and no longer Yoakum Strike. And I guess that's, you know, I'm okay with that because that's what I signed up with.

09:57 This is, today has been, um... You know what? Bullshit! Blow me, you idiots! I don't believe this guy! He's like... This is like those two idiot senators that were running for the Republican nomination for the U.S. They weren't senators, they were running for Senate, U.S. Senate included. In a situation where they put a, was an easy walk away win and one of them talked about legitimate rape. Oh yeah, yeah. And the other one had some similar stupidity that he blurted out because he was just not thinking. You're gonna be a politician. I mean if you're not gonna be a politician, you're just gonna be a complete a-hole. Yeah. Like Martin Bashir. Oh, he quit? He was fired, although he chose to resign. He chose to resign. This is another thing. It's like, this is such a non...

10:52 story really because this guy the only Place we know this guy from is he interviewed Michael Jackson that was his claim to fame wasn't it pretty much? Right and so and then he made a comparison to slaves getting defecated in their face and That that someone should do that I do have the entire clip for people who want it just for reference and I think it's enjoyable personally Because the guy is more it's worse than he's such a douchebag, but it's kind of been eaten to death by the by Back and all those guys this is this is something Jeff who cares about back It's not even that he was beat he there's the other side of the aisles that is going nuts to it This is one of the actually I should have should save this clip for just before we go

11:41 we do a donation segment because if you look up comcast bashir you see both sides is not just back it's the other side is the daily cost uh... was so unfair a man can express himself anymore and did and the leftist group is defending him and what he said in the women's groups are saying anything about it we know this is a real bad that's the fact that that's the thing i'm gonna agree with you there the fact that not a single solid you know what screw we gotta play this you're right is this this plays into something that this is violence against women and by the way on the violence beyond what was up next violence not violence but the war against the word slavery uh... he had that to what is this three subtext there's the war against men in general which kind of flows into women's groups and the fact that no one not as far as i know not a single women advocacy group came to

12:39 The, uh, to Sarah Palin's side shows you how two-faced these women's groups are. Two-faced liars and cheap shits. Yeah, we should play that. And we end this week in the way it began, with America's resident dunce, Sarah Palin, scraping the barrel of her long-deceased mind and using her all-time favorite analogy in an attempt to sound intelligent about the national debt. Our free stuff today is being paid for by taking money from our children and borrowing from China.

13:23 When that note comes due, and this isn't racist, so try it, try it anyway. This isn't racist, but it's gonna be like slavery when that note is due. Alright, I gotta stop for a second here. What she just said there is, by the way, insane. This makes no sense. We're all going to be enslaved to China? What bothers me about this, of course he doesn't bring any of this up, what bothers me about these comments is that most of the debt is sold to the US public. The Fed owns 30% of the bond market! And the amount of money that Chinese owe us is, it's in the trillion or so, but it's not a big deal. Japan is more I think than China. Whatever the case is, this is nonsense. This is just jingoism. It's just kind of like, oh the Chinese, the Chiners, the Chinese, which by the way we do. We got some good stuff today. But it's at least based on some facts and not this kind of just let's scare an audience with this bogus

14:23 crap that's okay and i just i just want to know i'd i read her book i've always defended sarah palin but this is idiotic and the way she says it i have to admit it sounds very patronizing and when what's your source of bother and nothing about me about her she actually all these years could have taken some vote voice lessons or some Some public speaking, some consulting. She sounds worse. How about some consulting from the Curry Dvorak Consultancy? We could help her. Yes, we could. That when that bill comes due this I say it's here when that bill comes years off the rails He's always been off the rails. He's just like Ed Schultz and these other guys MSNBC has become an embarrassment to Comcast so happy I'm so happy you're doing this because this allows me to play MSNBC clips today as well. It'll be like slavery

15:15 Given her well-established reputation as a world-class idiot, it's hardly surprising that she should choose to mention slavery in a way that is abominable to anyone who knows anything about its barbaric history. So here's an example. One of the most comprehensive first-person accounts of slavery comes from the personal diary of a man called Thomas Thistlewood, who kept copious notes for 39 years. Thistlewood was the son of a tenant farmer who arrived on the island of Jamaica in April 1750 and assumed the position of overseer at a major plantation.

15:55 Do you think that he knew this story and was like, oh I got a great idea? Or did he research this? Oh no, no. Somebody on the staff read the book. Now I want to talk about just a couple of notes on this book after he's done with his diatribe. What is most shocking about Thistlewood's diary is not simply the fact that he assumes the right to own and possess other human beings, but is the sheer cruelty and brutality of his regime. In 1756 he records that a slave named Darby catched eating canes, had him well flogged and pickled, then made Hector another slave, S-H-I-T, in his mouth. This became known as Darby's... Hold on a second. S-H-I-T. Oh! ...dose, a punishment invented by Thistlewood that spoke only of the slave owner's savage...

16:52 and inhumanity. And he mentions a similar incident again in 1756, this time in relation to a man he refers to as Punch. I could go on, but you get the point. When Mrs. Palin invokes slavery, she doesn't just prove her rank ignorance. She confirms that if anyone truly qualified for a dose of discipline from Thomas Thistlewood, then she would be the outstanding candidate. Thanks so much for watching. Ed Schultz is next.

17:50 Okay, so let's take a look at them. First of all, Thistlewood was a Jamaican slaveholder and the Jamaican operations were a lot different than they were in the United States because there was no real oversight whatsoever and these guys got away with everything. And the guy was notorious sadist. He's a sadist and a pervert who had slaves, which is a good example of why this institution was bad from the get-go. the University of North Carolina printed his diaries which included these incidents which were disgusting. But to bring this up at all seems to me to be something of a stretch because he just used the word slavery and what he's implying, what I think a bigger picture is again, the war and the word slavery because there's an implication here that you can't say, oh I'm a wage slave

18:39 no no that's racist is now a a a a comparing to the to the slay the horrible slave business where they crapped in each other's mouths back in the seventeen hundreds and this is like this was a this is the kind of crazy uh... analysis that we get from these net from these channels these networks and msnbc being the worst of it and i believe that it did comcast is is i think this is the end of it i think that i think comcast is fed up With this crap this guy is not even the worst of the group that Ed Schultz is the worst and they moved him to weekends only and he's gonna be out shortly this whole operation may just shut down or go into some sort of competitive news organization similar to CNN and die that way well you you kind of you're almost forcing me into MSNBC stuff now

19:30 Well, what have you got, Adam? By the way, if you want, I do have the Martin, just if you want to do a segue, I do have the insincere Martin Bashir talking about an apology. I really, really, really don't care. I don't understand why you... You're missing... I care for good entertainment. This guy apologizing is hilarious because... But no one saw it! We're giving him more audience for the apology. Just because I need some credits. No, no, no, no, you're right. Giving him more audience is bad. So... This guy never did anything. Go on to your miserable clips.

20:08 I'm afraid now. No, I have to take you out. I have to bring you back to reality. Hello, let's go to C-SPAN, which I was watching instead of watching reruns of MSNBC. reruns of a something that only Beck and Limbaugh talk about. You surprise me with this actually, you surprise me. This is three weeks old! I hate this guy. Oh okay, well. Representative Duncan Hunter, he's from FEMA Region 9, he's in California, he's a Republican and he made the mistake of going on that live C-SPAN talk show in the morning with a kind of cute girl host, you know what I mean?

20:50 There's actually two cute girl hosts. Well there you go, that one. And it's a live show, you can call in on the Democratic line, the Republican line or the Independent line. And this show, as a politician, you should never ever go on the show. But of course I'm sad once again that not a single Solitary no agenda listener calls it you can say you can call in on the show and say anything you want to these people I know and it's pisses me off that no one's doing this. It's ridiculous that not one no agenda listener ever called it. It makes me mad. None of the no agenda listeners listen to C-SPAN. They refuse to. They don't care. They don't care about promoting our show.

21:28 They just don't care. I get a million emails of, this must be a no agenda listener! But no one is ever actually doing the work. Williams up first in Athens, Ohio. Democratic caller. Hi, William. By the way, great trick. Call in on the Democrat line. That's the way you roll. Democratic caller. Hello, William. Hi. Congressman, the evidence that the World Trade Center Building 7 was brought down with explosives on 9-11 is real and proven. You had me at real. I like the way he gets to the point immediately. You had me at real and proven. And more and more people are waking up to it every day. How much more trust to the American public does Congress have to lose before it faces reality and acknowledges the need for a new investigation into Building 7's destruction?

22:16 John, you are without a doubt somewhat skeptical, but when it comes to the World Trade Center 7, you feel this is a huge issue as well. How would you advise the congressman from California to answer this question? Well, generally speaking, I've watched this show quite often, and generally speaking the host of the show cuts off the conversation right there. Oh. And we've played clips from the show where they say, oh I'm sorry but we're not going to discuss that because we're talking about this. I don't think the girls ever cut the collars off. In fact, she... I can dig up a clip where one of the girls cut the collar off. I believe you. Well he's going to answer this question in probably the worst possible way.

22:58 I don't think it needs any more investigation. I don't think that, I think the way that those towers were brought down were by radical Islamic terrorists and that's the way it is and I think every investigation has shown that so far. And then she asked, who is this douchebag? And she asked a great follow-up. Did you read the 9-11 investigation by the committee? No. No. No. But you think it was adequate enough? Yeah, I think so. Richard. Yeah, it's great and adequate. Wait, he said no? He said it's great and adequate but I didn't read it. Vote this person out people in California. Who is this guy? What is his name? Duncan Hunter, Republican of California. I have another clip by this guy and he's unbelievable. He is this and so again Republican from California. He may be one of the freshmen, one of the new guys. I think his

23:47 But he talks like this. Because they're lying sacks of shit there. I think that he is right to a Great extent and it's not like we're making this up the Iranians have said over and over where the great Satan were the great evil They're gonna wipe Israel off of the face of the earth. Okay, hold on Could we get to find the clips the Iranians apparently said we are the great Satan We are the great evil or does he mean America? It's confusing because it's and in the Middle Eastern culture it is

24:32 looked upon with very high regard to get the best deal possible no matter what it takes and that includes lying. That's one reason that these Gulf states like to work with the United States because we're honest and transparent and we have We have laws that we have to live by, even in the business world. They like doing business with us as opposed to their partners or even the communist Chinese to some extent because they like doing business with people that are honest and open and transparent and forthright. He's basically about to say... that everybody in the world is a liar and a cheater and all countries, especially those Arabs and maybe even damn Jews if you listen to what he's saying they're liars, all they want is the best deal, oy! oy! we want the best deal possible and everyone likes to work with us because we're suckers because we're honest Indians so that is a I would say an underpinning to these negotiations once again, if you're willing to blow yourself up

25:29 and and commit suicide I'm talking about a guy who listens to too much talk radio. This guy is in the 50th district of California which is kind of east of San Diego. It's not along the coast. It's in Escondido. Temecula is the northernmost part and El Cajon is the southernmost part. The rest of it is just a bunch of woodlands. It gets better. People, you are not a rational person. And that's who you're dealing with when you're dealing with the Iranians. Are you saying all Middle East countries are this way? She's getting good by the way. Oh, she's into it. She hates this guy. I'm really enjoying what she's doing. And she does it with such a pretty face. That's why she let that question about the towers go through. Of course! She's trying to bring this guy down. And it's working and he deserves it. Willing to lie in negotiations. It is part of the Middle Eastern culture to get the best deal you can.

26:22 You liars when you're arguing whether you're at the marketplace arguing over buying vegetables or buying shoes in the marketplace To do anything that you can to get the best deal. Yeah, that's that's that's part of Middle Eastern culture Yeah, whatever they like to barter. Whatever What kind of evidence do you have? They're going into the store here, you know, into a Vons or Safeway and trying to barter for your food, but they still do that in the Middle East and they try to get the best deal. Those bastards are trying to get a good deal where we just, you know, we play by the rules. We look at the price tag, we pay for it. The shop... Which is patently untrue, by the way. Mickey gets deals everywhere. Middle Eastern liar that she is. Shop owner will say whatever he or she has to in order to sell something and people barter back and forth and try to get the best deal for each other and I think Iran is the epitome of that because they have lied over and over and over. They are liars. The Iranian government lie all the time. He's just digging deeper. They're liars. They're liars. I'm telling you. Why trust them now? Again, I ask why trust them now?

27:22 Are you speaking from personal experience, talking about all Middle East countries? From personal experience. So I would say not necessarily all Middle Eastern countries. I know that's a big generalization. Oh, because he's thinking, oh crap, did I just say Israel too with that? Oh man, I'm a doe. Not all, not all. They do business different than we do business in the West. They have markets, they like to barter, and they like to do whatever they... They like camels. He should have seen through the third row and made a camel reference. That would have been good. I'm surprised she doesn't ask him if he's ever been to the Middle East. He's never been. Ever. He's never been. You know he's never been. This guy is the liar. They can and say whatever they can to get the best deal. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Fact!

28:05 So, um, people in California, if you have an opportunity, you need to vote this guy out. We just have to start calling idiots out and you need to vote them out if you want any kind of change ever in your life. Which you'll still, if you're my age, you're not gonna see any real change before you die anyway. But you might as well give your kids a chance. Speaking of... He just looks so full of himself. Speaking of, uh, of changing... It's another installment of... Ah, yes. I tried it out, John. I tried my line about we don't want these douchebags at 23andMe to be the Twitter of our genome. And I actually threw some emotion into it. Why? Because I was met with a wall of silence.

29:00 Oh, well let's do the setup. Give us the setup. First, introduce us to the dinner. Okay. And then let's get into it. And by the way, the dinner, it was at Lori's house this time. She made Coq Au Vin, which was a long time on our list. And I have to say, she did a... Her Coq is great. We got a great Coq. Really loved it. So it was the artist and her husband and the professor. She cooked a rooster, you telling me? Yeah, exactly. The Coq Au Vin. The rooster in wine. It was a great dinner and we talked about a whole bunch of stuff. And then it came out, because they were all anticipating. I think I was just holding back. I was tired too. It was Sunday after the show, you know, so it's very dangerous.

29:47 They were anticipating what? To me to start saying... Something stupid. No, about how it's so great the FDA shut down 23andMe. And I started differently. They anticipated this conversation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the last thing I'd anticipate. No, in fact there was emails before the dinner like, oh we're ready for it. Oh, okay. And they take, I think they're taking some offense to the OBOT thing at this point actually. Oh, why? I don't know. Mickey emailed out, hey, next OB dinner is at our house. And in the subject line, I'm like, OK. And one of them goes like, hey, I just noticed you put OB in the, you're calling these dinners OB now? As an Obama bot. OK. Anyway. But don't they like Obama anymore? I don't know.

30:41 That's what I'd ask. So what's wrong with being called an Obama bot? You're just a loyal follower of the president. I also explained to them, I said, you're my friends, you're Obama bots. Obama-tards is something completely different. That's bad. Yeah, you're not that. You're my friends. Anyway, so we got into it a little bit and I was met with silence. I'm like, don't you understand that we've seen this movie before. What did you say to be met with silence? I said, I'm not against genetic testing. I said the problem I have is with Silicon Valley companies taking our data and turning it into a walled garden for their own profit just like, so you know, so saying that 23andMe democratizes health care is like saying Twitter and Facebook democratize freedom of speech which is just not true.

31:35 I like the analogy. That would probably stun the audience. They were stunned. They were stunned but they didn't quite get it. And I got emotional. Because I was also tired. I was tired. I said you can't allow this to go any further. Yeah, but you know it's simple. We need companies to do these things. I said now if there's a market for people who want genetic testing, the price will come down and give us our own data. You have to do these things in open source. You have to decentralize things. We have to decentralize our social networks. We have to decentralize our money.

32:11 This is the worst thing no one sees. People who listen to No Agenda see it. They understand that the centralization of money through electronics is horrible. That is slavery. We're of course not supposed to use the word slave anymore, but that is true slavery where you don't control your own money. I said the same thing with this, you can't trust these guys and they're gonna use your data against you and then they get bought and it's gone. We've done this before. No more cheap mirrors and trinkets in getting something and you think something of value. You're not getting the value. Anyway, so this went on for a while and you know so the dinner, it was a beautiful dinner and we talked about other things and it was great but then the next day

32:54 The professor who would, you know, he's the senior brain professor here at UT, neurology. He's the golden boy of the University of Texas. He sends me an email, says, you know what? You inspired me with your little soliloquy and I am off of Mac OS X, I'm installing Linux. I like that. I'm like, okay. It's kind of a jump, a leap, but okay. I think that's fantastic. Well, no, because that's part of the conversation is we have to, you know, Apple is totally screwing up Mac. He actually had a good line, he said, the iOSification of OSX, which I totally agree with.

33:35 Well yeah, well look at what Windows is doing. Windows is the phone-ification of the desktop machine. I want a phone operating system on my desktop with the big giant tiles. You'll take that and you'll like it with those big tiles. It's for you! Put on your glasses and big tiles. But exactly. So he installed, what do you say he installed? I have to look up which flavor he installed. And I was like, okay, so I won. That's a little ding in the armor. I think that's fantastic. Hey, you know what? If he does it, his grad students will do it, and before you know it, it starts to spread. Yeah, until they need to use Photoshop. No one needs to use Photoshop the way you do, John.

34:24 Well, be that as it may, but now that you mention it, the decentralization, we might as well jump to the next topic in a row. As we're jumping from thing to thing. Go to betterthancash.org and look at the founders. Okay, betterthancash.org. This doesn't sound good. Better than cash. Is this a... Oh boy. A worldwide initiative to get us off of cash. Oh my goodness. Accelerating the shift to digital payments. Wow. To who? Oh, founders Bill and Melinda Gates. Citigroup. USAID. Oh, it's a rotating banner. UNCDF, which is the micro finance capital. Oh, a Mediar Network. Visa. Oh my goodness. The Ford Foundation. Why don't they just call Better Than Cash It's The New World Order dot org. That would be easier to remember.

35:24 This is a great website. This is not a great website. And they got all these people that are advocating, let's get rid of cash because you know, and of course I've always liked this thing. Wow. Just for starters, think of a $10 bill at the flea market. Right. And a $10 bill. How about the Austin market? At the farmers market, not the farmers market. Okay, the farmers market. I'm a $10 bill. I take my $10 and I buy some chicken from the chicken guy and I give him $10, I take the chicken. You get $2 change in Austin. Well, no, we're gonna do this round numbers. Okay. So now I take the chicken, he takes the $10 bill and goes buy some spices from somebody else, the $10 goes to the other guy. And then the $10 floats around the farmer's market buying stuff. Sometimes taxes involved, sometimes it's not. Whatever the case is, the $10 stays intact at the end of the day. When you don't have cash, every one of these little transactions cost is 2% out of the $10.

36:21 So pretty soon it's like, you know, first it's two cents and then it's 20 cents and it's two bucks. After the $10 bill goes around enough, all this money, all the real money that's gone, it's gone. It now belongs to Visa and MasterCard and these other douchebags. How is this good? Yeah, yeah, it's really, really pathetic. And people just... there's no education of what's good. There were a couple of, I think maybe, was it maybe three, four years ago, we talked about these videos that were floating around the net that kind of went viral that showed you how money worked and then it was kind of like a big conveyor belt and then it'd always be like one human resource per minute that would fall off into like the meat grinder because that's how it works with the digital money.

37:09 It's totally, it's so wrong. It's so incredibly wrong. And particularly this microfinance business which is what Pierre Omidyar, the Omidyar Network is involved in, I think we talked about this one or two shows ago. Yes. It's, you know, the microfinance that they've put into Haiti as well. It's not good because it's essentially getting people on board with a debt program and debt is, well yeah it's the way our economy is built in our system but it kind of enslaves everybody. It's a bad situation for most cultures and you have to be, we do it well because the United States is a business-oriented

37:54 a mercantile oriented society, the sociology all works, everything is perfect, we can be in massive debt, we know how to deal with it, we know how to trick our way out of it, we know how to leverage, we know everything. And there's people out there that can just get by with really no income and they just play with money and they know how to do it right. This is not the case with some sub-Saharan African tribe. They don't know what the hell's going on. I mean this is, we take none of this into account. Well let's just make them, let's put them in debt and see how well they're going to do. I mean it's ridiculous and then you do it this way where they're not even really in debt because there's no money involved, there's a card. Here's a card.

38:37 It's got value. When you take it and they, what do I do with this? Where's the magical? I mean the whole thing is ridiculous. And to push this, then Gates Foundation, what have they got to do with this sort of business? I thought they were trying to end polio and end malaria. What has it got to do with this? I'm asking you. Well, nothing other than that Bill Gates has a lot of money or a lot of money on paper, therefore he's very smart, therefore whatever he says, which is basically Melinda with his hand up his tight ass, is great. I can't think of any other thing. Here it is, founding members, funding members actually on this Better Than Cash. I hope someone's recording a backup of this show.

39:25 I just hit record, how good is that? Guided by the belief that every life has equal value, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation works to help all people lead healthy, productive lives. In developing countries, it focuses on improving people's health with vaccines and other life-saving tools, and giving them the chance to lift themselves out of hunger and extreme poverty. That's where your microfinance comes in. And then in the United States it seeks to significantly improve education so all young people have the opportunity to reach their full potential like Bill! Based in Seattle, Washington, the foundation is led by CEO Jeff Raikson and co-chair William H. Gates Sr. The eugenicists, under the direction of Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett. It doesn't even say anything about the microfinance.

40:10 There's a lot of pitches in here that are kind of interesting but the whole thing is that it said Jeff Rakes was in this. Where's Jeff Rakes? He runs the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Oh yeah, he actually retired. Okay, our vision and goals empower people by accelerating the shift to electronic payments. There's a video on the home page of Bill talking. Why don't you punch it up? Featured video on the bottom right in the middle. So John I literally forgot to record like the first 10 minutes of the show and you know why? It's because you didn't hit it before I was ready to hit it and I wasn't ready and I didn't record. Oh it's my fault. Well yeah. Okay. Where's the video? I don't see a video. It says right here featured video. See resources? Yeah. Featured video. Did you look at this? No.

40:54 I can't probably couldn't handle. Oh, you know what hey we got the punchline. Why don't you call the NSA for a recording? Dick That's start. It's slow to start. This is by the way. There was there was a new the new NSA well We can talk about that later, but yeah, it's these guys are it's not here. We go. I'm listening I don't hear anything. Oh Well, good afternoon. It's great to see the attendance here. This is kind of a new initiative and yet already gaining a lot of momentum. I'm in New York this week in a broad sense to celebrate the good news story about the incredible progress against the fight against global poverty.

41:41 It's very interesting because every setback we have and this is a news headline but the gradual year-by-year progress that's led us to achieve... Okay, you can kill it. Yeah, this is dumb. He just gilges Yack forever. Yeah. Doesn't say anything. Nothing. Well, I can kind of transition from this into two central bankers came out on the same day and essentially said the same thing. The former chief of the central bank of the Netherlands, the Nederlands Bank, Nout Velenck, said, oh this Bitcoin, this is nothing more than tulip mania. Except at the end of the day you had a tulip.

42:23 And I need to say something about that. That's a good line. Well, no. I see other people do this tulip thing. You know, it's just crazy. What's interesting is that beanie babies is something we all remember. But I did some research on the tulip thing and it's a little different than the way we remember it. There's a book which Sir Von der Helm had some scanned pages somehow, he gave it to me. And this comparison, essentially whenever there's a bubble, they say, oh, that's like the Dutch tulip craze. And I think some history is warranted.

43:03 About the what that actually was I mean what do you the way you understand it John is is that it the Dutch tulip craze was just people went crazy about a Non-product and the bubble burst and that was it I mean do you have any any back very popular and they were being bred to be certain ways and certain tools became very valuable and then there was a shortage in the market and then people began what happened with people began to speculate on the bulbs and And once that happened, it was doomed. But it was definitely a craze. Let me tell you what actually happened. This was not so much about the bubble as it was about the trading that was going on. Now this is the 1630s.

43:46 There were hardly there was there was no CNBC. There were no newspapers They had pamphlets which are kind of like flyers and people would print something up and hand it out. But what happened this was they had commodities trade in the Netherlands kind of invented the the stock market and this was a part of that because what happened with these With these tulip trades is people were not taking possessions of the bulb or the flower just the contract and that was something that was new and And by the way, in order to understand a history like this, you have to get the Dutch texts, which I am able to read. So it's kind of unique that I can explain this to you because I read through the Dutch copy of what really went down. So this was something that was new, is people would buy a tulip and they would only get a piece of paper that was, you know, the ball... Yes, by the way, I want to interrupt.

44:40 Anytime you have some new technology that take or some new mechanism financial mechanism that makes it look as though you can make a lot of money Mm-hmm people jump on it because they see the Bitcoin is is probably I think is a good example now that you bring this up this part of it is yes This is exactly my point So people were in it to make money on the transaction instead of making money on the commodity itself This is this is where there was a big difference now There was a lot of trouble with these flowers. They were hard to identify. There were a lot of mistakes being made and a lot of fraud. But in 1936,

45:19 One of these pamphlets, again very few newspapers if any, floated rumors that the state was considering taxing the tool of the press. This was in 1836, or 1636. 1636, I'm sorry. What did I say? You said 1936. And by the way, if you notice what you said was 1936, which is exactly... Exactly 400 years, 300 years later. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. So 1636, one of these pamphlets floated rumors the state was considering taxing this trade because they weren't really trading or buying commodities. It was like a kind of like a transaction tax is what they were looking at. So on February 3rd, 1637 is when the first bad auction took place in Harlem and there were essentially no buyers.

46:06 On February 24th in Amsterdam there was a big meeting all the traders got together and they said okay you know what we've got to unwind all this. Every trade after November 30th of 1636 can be unwound for a 10% fee on the actual transaction. Of course you know the big guys didn't really get hurt, some of the little guys got through and so it's kind of like a bailout, one of the early bailouts. But why did this happen? And all the texts say that there is a very clear parallel of the plague. The plague, of course, in the 1600s was like, you know, it happened. But the peak of the tulip mania trade coincided with the peak of the Black Plague where 30% of cities were literally dying. And in 1636, before this bad auction,

47:02 12 or 14 of the big tulip traders died of the plague and their kids or their family or other people within their organization took over the trade. So it's not that crazy to think that when you have like the backup guy running the trade or someone who doesn't know anything about this trading at all come into this and there's plague and people are dying and people you know it's a weird time that that is was really the impetus for this to fall apart not so much that all of a sudden people realize the tulip wasn't worth anything which to this day is not true. A tulip is definitely worth money just it wasn't worth

47:42 The kind of money they were paying for it at the time. So the crash really coincided with the new people coming in. after the plague wiped out the original traders. And that's the part that is, it's iffy at best to say that, you know, there's a bubble, it always pops, it always goes this way, it's overvalued. And it's not. The only comparison that's fair, I think you're right, is that it's a trade based upon the value of the trade and what you can make in selling the ownership paper on instead of the actual commodity. Yeah, speculation always causes these issues. Exactly.

48:17 It's also a cycle and I think that the tulip cycle fell right on one of the cusps. So it was, people were ripe for it. Because there's always opportunities to do these sorts of things but people have to be in the right mood to actually do them. And by the way, for tourists out there, when you go to Amsterdam and you want to get some of these, they have some cool tulips and also these giant whatever they're called, I can't remember the name of them, this big bulb that makes a huge flower. for sale along the water in a bunch of shops and you can get some cool tulips but make sure you go to the shop that has the approved for export tulips and bulbs because otherwise you won't be able to get them in the US but if you get the box with the bulbs in it that has and from all I could tell the guy goes in the back

49:07 puts the bulbs in a box, tapes the box up and puts the stamp on there. It's the same bulbs, but it's beside the point. So when I came in with some bulbs from Amsterdam once, I went to customs, I specifically took one of them aside and showed him the bulbs and I said, is this, did I do this right? Was this how you're supposed to do it? She says, yes. Too many people don't do that. She says, just make sure you get the seal and the stamp and then you, you're good to bring anything in. So you, cause otherwise they don't exactly. You need that. You need that. They'll confiscate the bulbs and put them in their own garden. Here's a former fed chairman, uh,

49:46 Alan Greenspan on the same day the same day that this guy Says to at a banking conference. Oh this Bitcoin is nothing Greenspan says something very comparable and of course as always with bad news for Bitcoin the price always goes up It's a phenomenal thing that's happening Did you hear that by the way, can you do what she just did Wow I Let me talk for a little bit to bore you but okay.

50:35 Well, he says some very interesting things here, John, and I want you to catch him because he's leaving the door open in a big way. Currencies to be exchangeable have to be backed by something. When we were on the gold standard, gold and silver had intrinsic value and people would be willing to exchange their goods and services for gold or silver and wouldn't ask any questions of where the monies came from. Alternatively, when we went into currencies, it was the backing of the issuer of the currency. In other words, if some individual had great credit standing, his checks could circulate as money. But the question is... Do you hear what he's saying? He says if some individual had a lot of money and

51:26 Yeah, and he issued paper his checks they could be They could be used as money and the first time he says it I'm like, okay, but he keeps bringing this up I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from there is no fundamental issue of capabilities of repaying it in anything which is universally acceptable, which is either intrinsic value of the currency or the credit or trust of the individual who is issuing the money. So he's saying this again, I think what he's doing here, John, if I just dissect this, he's saying that if let's say, I don't know, Pierre Omidyar,

52:09 If Pierre Omnidiar released a cryptocurrency which was backed by Pierre Omnidiar, that would be a valid currency. But it could be Peter Thiel, it could be Warren Buffett, it could be any of his cronies. Why? It could be the better than cash.org people for all we know. Whether it's a government or an individual. And he says it again, he keeps saying individual. Individuals with very high net worth and great reputations could create their own currency because people would be willing to exchange. You got to put this in the book, John. He's promoting some kind of currency that's coming out backed by individuals of great wealth.

52:48 Well, I mean it's not different than it seems to me. It used to be, checks used to be kind of like currency because you could have third party checks, you could sign it over to somebody, he'd sign it over to somebody else, have a bunch of names on the back and the money would float around as a check. So this is not really new. And most of the banks had their own currencies until the 1800s. You'd go, you know, the Bank of South Carolina would issue currency, which competed with the local government could issue currency. So they actually passed laws against a lot of this kind of thing. That's why I think the Ron Paul coins got busted because they were... You mean the Liberty coin? The Liberty dollar.

53:29 But listen to this list, John. Let me finish. I don't see how it's any different than this kind of currency when you have a common stock of an individual. I mean, David Bowie is a public company, right? Remember, you know, when you're in public? His published work is a bond. Okay, it's a bond. But that can be passed around like currency and it's got some value. Yes. Absolutely, I'm not shocked by any of this now. He just keeps saying individuals as though you know Peter Omidyar is going to Peter print money. Maybe even Pierre Omidyar, you never know. Well, but if you look at because this I was surprised besides Bitcoin we have Litecoin, Peercoin, Namecoin, YaCoin, NovaCoin, PrimeCoin, FeatherCoin, Anonacoin, QuarkCoin and a lot of these are VC backed.

54:25 I think someone's trying to make a move and I think he's in on it. Not really backed by anything? Is she listening to him at all? No, she has a list of questions on the prompter and someone's yelling in her ear, we got one more minute. Gold isn't backed by, gold is gold! There is no physical, it's a physical product, it's a physical element in the, sitting on my desk. His answer is... There's no bitcoin that can do this. I think his answer is maybe dumber than the question actually. No, well see that, it has to have intrinsic value.

55:06 You have to really stretch your imagination to infer what the intrinsic value of Bitcoin is. I haven't been able to do it, maybe somebody else can. But if you ask me, is this a bubble in Bitcoin? Yeah, it's a bubble. Yeah, it's a bubble. And I'm riding that shit all the way to 10,000. You hope I saw you even use my 10,000 number on I'm the one who came up with the 10,000 number and told you to stick to your guns. All right I don't think that's true, but that's okay. You were gonna sell it a thousand you said as soon as it hits I remember you saying it. No I did not I said it will be a thousand by the end of the year I never said I was gonna sell it at a thousand ever in fact I said I was going to do a daily source code and I would keep all the money and keep it transparent everyone can follow my blockchain and you know how much money I got for doing a show?

56:04 like four dollars in bitcoin which proves to me that either everyone's lying that they like the show possible or There's just no one's using these as a store of value. Horowitz dropped a Bitcoin thing on the DHM plug. We got six bucks, so we beat your ass. Oh, that's... And then we kicked your butt. You did. Six bucks. So what's wrong with this picture? What's wrong with the picture of all the Yehoos and I'll call them out. who kept going on, oh you know, I would give you guys money. We have two kinds of people that help us contribute to the show. One of them, of course none of them ever do, one of them is always telling us that if we didn't solicit money, they'd give us money. Okay, fine, yeah right. And the other one is that if we put Bitcoin, if we took Bitcoin, they'd give us money. Oh, immediately.

57:02 Yeah, would they be pouring it we'd be getting tons of money because of the because they're there we've got we'll take Bitcoin This is bullcrap the problem with Bitcoin at this point, and I saw one of the People are now moving to MBTC, you know, because the problem when you get these numbers like a thousand, in order to keep the price going up, you have to do a stock split. You have to bring it down to where people think that they can, you know, of course, don't please don't email me about any of what I'm saying. I'm not interested in your opinion anymore about Bitcoin, just not. Yes, I know it's divisible blotty blotty blotty blot. I think it was the smallest unit is a Sumerian I really don't I'm not interested I'm also not interested in your theories about Paul Walker's death by the Illuminati. I'm just not I have enough of it Okay, I'll be happy to bring it to you

57:58 But we have you have so the rebranding of Bitcoin down to M coin or whatever You need a better name So that you need to you need to reverse stock split so that people can get in again at the $1 level you need a new a new nominator Yeah, the nomination you need a new thing and until that happens it just is not gonna go stratospheric It's a thousand to one split. So you have to become a that's that's the MBTC But they I don't want the name is it's a small M big B big T big C. Mm. Jesus. Oh This isn't gonna go away with as a nice. It's not both months. Well, you know what one thing that will never change is

58:40 is that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well I was about time. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, all the dames and knights out there. And thank you very much, Martin JJ. He sent me an email. He says, no worries, got your ass covered. I've got the recording of the first bit of the show. No worries. Thank you so much. It's funny for all the people who JJ an artist doing recording the show Martin JJ He's like a backup parachute. You know the one that in the little bundle that well I got to meet him once oh really I've met him I don't think he was up at the Twit cottage. Oh really What does he do? Artist it's an artist

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1:07:03 Oh my god, and all of that wrapped in a karma, no doubt. Well, he didn't say karma. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine! George Clooney! George Clooney! George Clooney! Is a spy! Why? You've got karma. Kerr nailed it! That is so funny. That George Clooney is a spy. Yeah, I don't know why that clip is so funny, but it's just... Funny well, it's you know and and and these this is why our show is so great is this is George Clooney comes out yeah, we did this of course yeah, and says everyone who uses Twitter's in a moron Yeah, and the whole thing is stupid. It. Did you read the whole Esquire article? No, I didn't I just I'm like that guy like that Duncan guy. I told you I don't read anything I just see whatever rumor goes around. I'm in exactly well there you go

1:07:59 Well, thank you very much to our associate executive producers and our executive producer Gregory Ball grabs that today. We of course really appreciate your support today as you'll see we have a rather short, short, short list and John always, John thinks it's the Thanksgiving time period and I'm always amazed because where's everybody else from the rest of the world? They stopped listening? That's just it? They don't have Thanksgiving? Maybe they're all influenced by what's happening in our media that everyone goes to. It might be true because all the all the network tv normal series is all on vacation. This particular week there's nobody working. That's correct and and and the story I got emailed the most was about these uh this father and son who got into a fight over their mac and cheese

1:08:50 and somehow this is hilarious and this is emailed a million times. Did you get this email? Yep. I want to thank Tyler Gordon. I didn't even open it. I just find it to be just kind of distressing. Well, I want to thank Tyler Gordon, one of our producers who gave the proper analysis. He says, well, things are getting pretty rough in Gitmo Nation East. The younger son is apparently a no agenda listener who fully understands the value of mac and cheese and will not stand for cheeseless macaroni. Which is exactly what the fight was about. It was about cheeseless? Yeah, the father didn't want to... There wasn't enough cheese packets to go onto the macaroni. Cheese packets? Remember this is in the UK. They don't really know how to do mac and cheese properly. It's the whole bunch of cheddar. It doesn't mean they know what they're doing.

1:09:45 Alright, anyway, please support us for Sunday show Sundays are always harder than Thursday So I'm not looking forward to what we'll see on the spreadsheet. Although we will be there with your news analysis. Borac org slash and and of course you can always continue to go out and propagate that formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth All right All right, now I have to go into the big news of the week. This was anticipated, of course. The release of some of the 911 call tapes. Yeah, like we're still recording 911 calls on tape.

1:10:41 It's funny how people, the tapes had been released and then actually the release of the tapes actually said tape one, tape two. No, these of course are digital recordings. And now there was a couple things that were interesting. Now of course I listened to them. I listened to what was released. As you know, none of the evidence of this Sandy Hook shooting is actually evidence of a shooting. It's a lot of evidence about Adam Lanza's home and all this stuff. But the interesting was all of the news outlets, except ultimately CNN, I think, who played a little bit, refused to play the tapes.

1:11:23 Which of course made me highly interested in hearing how important the stuff, the information was that's on these tapes. So let us just go down a quick list here. We have now, I'll start with, remember I get to do some MSNBC stuff now. And although I've been banned, I've been banned from playing anything by him, I'm bringing it out because you said I could do it now. No, no, you weren't banned from playing anything by him. I was banned from playing anything by Toure. Oh, I thought you were banned from playing anything from Rachel. I have that too. Oh yeah, Toure, you're right, it was Toure. Here's Toure. Why, you recorded this assuming you were going to be unbanned when you actually haven't been. Correct. The ban that you gave me for I forgot what it was now is off. You don't even know what the ban was. I'll remember it eventually. It'll come to me, damn it.

1:12:24 Here's Ture explaining why they're not playing these 911 calls. obviously a sensitive issue for the families of the lost loved ones and for many others in the community and for many in america for that matter nbc news is currently reviewing the tapes but for now at least we are not we're choosing not to hear that not to have a much using not to do you hear how it's not to have a today's release and a month-long court fight to make those tapes public opponents argue the wounds are still too fresh but

1:13:08 Those who argued for their release say the calls may provide insight into the way the response was handled, and perhaps get us better prepared for future events. Oh, yes, be prepared for future events. You know guys, just because the media has something, a photograph, a tape, a piece of video, doesn't mean that we have to release it, doesn't mean we have to say whatever we get, we just put it out and let the people decide how they feel about it. We make decisions. And this is what's so interesting, that this is happening the same time where the... Yes, he's a douche. There's CCTV footage of Paul Walker's car crashing, bursting into flames. There's pictures. Everything is on it except for the burnt to a crisp body. But every picture is out there. But what to air, what to broadcast every single day. And we're talking about audio. We're talking about people calling up. We're not talking about pictures or video. We're talking about 911 calls of people calling, perhaps in distress.

1:14:05 You know, we have to ask, is this valuable for the public good? Does it advance the story? Does it enhance the narrative? Does it enhance our understanding of what happened in a given situation? When did he become a knight of morality? Why is this happening? I can only think of a few things and one of them is... They're meant to shut up and not play this because well perhaps there's nothing on it or it's really unimportant. There's nothing on it or somebody was, you know, they call it, there was no emotion, didn't make any sense. All the things that have been uncovered by the YouTubers that have gone over most of this evidence with a fine-toothed comb, much of the stuff they've uncovered is quite interesting. Well here's Rachel. Now Rachel did a 20-minute segment about

1:14:49 No, she started off with oh I turned She started off with how the New York Times published a picture on September 12 2001 of someone jumping from the World Trade Center And you know how this this whole thing about the responsibility It's the credibility of the media and it's so hard and doing journalism is hard and making the hard tough decisions. It's so hard. Oh, it's so hard. We don't know. Now this is the day before the tapes are released. I think I'm going to have the vapors. Exactly. She is so insincere about this. It is a very, very uncomfortable thing.

1:15:28 It's uncomfortable. So she has not heard the tapes. The tapes are not released until the next day. Already she's presumed. Already she's uncomfortable. Yes. But it is part of why the job of a free and responsible press is not just an important thing in a democracy. It's a hard thing. It's hard, John. Don't think that you can be a free press in a democracy. Not you, Dvorak, because it's hard. And it's really complicated. And it's disturbing. And you may not have the balls for it, my friend. And it's a hard job. And it is hard to do well. It's not hard, Rachel. Hard is hard. It's not hard. Remember George Bush going on and on? I guess. Of the people who do it to be worthy of the responsibility that they have. Are you worthy of the responsibility? Because I'm about to play some of these tapes, John. I hope you're worthy of that responsibility, that huge responsibility. Tomorrow morning in a law office in Danbury, Connecticut, the news media will get access to the tapes of the 911 phone calls that were made in Newtown, Connecticut on the morning of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings.

1:16:25 The state of Connecticut and the prosecutor's office and representatives of the victims' families say they did not want those tapes to ever become available to the public. Ever! But the Associated Press sued to get access to the tapes. Those horrible Associated Press people! And a judge ruled in their favor and the appeals were dropped and so tomorrow morning in Connecticut, the media for the first time will get those tapes. Woo! And then what? And then what? And now it's up to the good judgment of the media to decide whether those tapes should be publicly broadcast. Whether what they will add to the public understanding of the Sandy Hook massacre outweighs the additional pointless trauma that playing those tapes publicly will undoubtedly cause to the families and the survivors in Newtown. Forgive me if I'm wrong, John, but didn't we not hear over and over again the so-called tapes from the cell phones on the 9-11 airplanes?

1:17:17 and phone calls from people on the 98th floor. I mean over and over again. The biggest tragedy in American history and now all of a sudden we have the Dame of Morality, the Dame, she's on her white horse named Morality, riding through the desert of morality to stop us. Giving us all kinds of imagery here. Again it was an Associated Press lawsuit that brought about the access to the tapes that's gonna happen tomorrow morning. It's interesting and all of the AP's own news stories about their own efforts to get access. Then she goes into all, okay so I'm gonna stop that there but even Al Jazeera won't play the tapes. Recordings of the 911 calls from Sandy Hook Elementary School. The shooting there were released earlier today. The audio reveals a mixture of calm and anguish as town dispatchers urge

1:18:08 urged panicked callers to take cover as gunshots could be heard at times in the background Al Jazeera America will not play those audio recordings. Why not? Of all the people who should be playing it, please listen to the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group. Someone needs to play these things to get some ratings. You're morons or you're completely in control. I think this is the point really. Al Jazeera Nobody knows are even on anymore. I mean they're they're on them Al Jazeera America's on the current network nobody's ever watched that network or cares and Nobody watches Al Jazeera. I mean I always forget about

1:18:49 about them and I'm doing all kinds of clips. I've got some news from Tazikistan, some network, but I don't watch Al Jazeera. I try to, but I keep forgetting about it. They need to get some attention. They would have run this and been the only network to run it. Then everyone would have been, of course, oh, this is terrible that they ran these horrible, well, that would have got them a lot of attention. They know this. There is no tape. Well, here's so I have I listened to all seven tapes and I was dumbfounded that the majority of the recordings are of the acting custodian for that day.

1:19:38 Rick Thorne who has never been tapes the tapes have been released that public well, oh, they're all over the place. Okay. Yeah The tape and there and they're bullshit, right? Well, listen to what I'm saying the majority of what is on the tapes and I only I Listen to them. I listened to them four times. I got what you need to hear You don't need to hear anything else. But the majority of the tapes are of the listen carefully acting custodian for that day Rick Thorne. He was a fill-in for that day. This guy is... Find an interview with him by any of the networks. Find an interview with this guy by anybody. Find a print interview with this guy. Non-existent. This guy might as well be a zombie. Yet here he is and he has a very interesting way of talking.

1:20:30 Alright, what about the students in the front of the building? Everything's locked up as far as I know. I'm not in the front. Alright, you're in lockdown? So he says he's not inside. Are you in lockdown? Yeah, they're in lockdown. Did you see anything out the window? We're in lockdown. No, it's still going on. I can't get over there. Okay, I don't want you to go over there. I want to know what's happening with the students though along the front corridors. This is in the front parking lot? Yes. I'm not in the front, I'm actually down the other part, but I'm close. I'm close! Do you see anything or hear anything more? I keep hearing shooting, I keep hearing popping. Alright, Jen, let's get one caller, I'll take my caller. Alright, now who am I talking with right now?

1:21:18 I'm the acting head custodian for today. Newtown, what's the address of the school? 12-0, Richardson Drive. OK. Well, the acting custodian knows that he knows the address exactly well. Something's happening. OK. Are you in the room? All right, now when you say the school is in lockdown? All the doors are locked. We're doing classrooms. OK. He knows about everything. He hasn't been up front. All the doors are locked, including the classrooms. We're in lockdown, although he isn't there. So at this time, you're defending in place. Control, one flight down the highway. Excuse me?

1:22:02 Interesting the dispatcher I guess that's just a mistake on the dispatchers side saying you're defending in place. Now from a conspiratorial angle and by the way a lot of people hate me for doing this but I don't I don't care someone has to go hate you people be like oh that's the people who watch MSNBC and are happy that they didn't play the tapes because it's so insulting to the dead children John that's what that's the people who will hate me. Oh nobody said that to you. No not yet. At this time all the rooms are locked. Did you see anything out front before this started? No, I was out all morning. No, and I was out all morning. See, he even starts off the call with, I'm outside. So all of this is very shaking.

1:22:43 Where are you in the... Jim teacher told me that he saw a shadow going past the gym. The gym teacher just told me, this is all new by the way, the gym teacher just apparently walked up to him as they're shooting all over the school. As he's outside doing what? Who knows and someone's walking outside. Can you get down? Yes. Alright. This guy's the worst actor ever. Wait for it. They are running on the outside, more than one person now. They're still shooting going on, please. Alright, what about injuries at this time? So now we hear something that sounds like gunshots in the background. We're not sure what that is. Excuse me? What about injuries at this time? I don't know of any injuries right now. Okay. Here we go. They're coming at me down here at this point.

1:23:41 Ken, I need you to call the state police. So there was someone yelling at the acting custodian for the day. This film is still going on. Okay, now listen to I did some editing for you obviously listening to some of the language he's using in this part of the call because he basically stays on as the eyes and ears of 9-1-1 again a guy who we have never seen in an interview anywhere ever Do you hear any police officers at this time Rick? I'm hearing talking. I'm not seeing anybody, but I'm hearing talking. Like I said, I'm sitting in the middle of this corridor.

1:24:23 Yet so how unlikely he's standing in the middle of the corridor the shooting going on makes sense Outside what this is well, that's what he said first and now he's inside Listen he's like I'm the custodian. I'm the custodian listen to this I Okay, now this is a big problem for me. If I'm the custodian and I'm saying I'm on custodian custodian and then I'm I would say I'm on the phone with 911

1:25:10 I agree, you only use that term generally speaking if you work within the government and the agency. You're driving around in some car. Dispatch. Yeah, I got dispatch on the line. What did the cop say? Yeah, so he may be an ex-cop but we don't know this because we've never heard from this guy. What? Yeah, it could be an ex-cop, something like that. Well, we don't know. Victims in the building. How many? How many? Two down. She said two down, two down. It's like, okay. Is it safe? So nobody. Alright. I didn't see anybody go in there.

1:25:57 He's now telling him to call the state police? Why does he, I mean, I didn't hear anyone tell him to do that. He actually told him to call the state police a little earlier too. But why the state police? Well, I don't know. That's part of the protocol. Now, So that was... The temporary janitor's protocol? Yes, that's exactly... yes, yes, hello. Haven't you read the acting janitor for the day protocol book? Okay, so here's another part of interesting protocol. And by the way, this is the worst you'll hear on these tapes. That's the only shooting that's on any of these recordings. And there's one, we don't know who she was, was shot in the foot.

1:26:47 And this is her demeanor on the phone call. This is how upset she is by what has happened, by being shot in the foot. And the fact that the police calls into dispatch and just puts her on the phone is very strange to me. In town 9-1-1, what's the emergency? This is the state police. I got a victim. A victim from the shooter here. She's been shot once in the foot. She's been shot once in the foot? She's in room number one. Room number one? Yep. One shot in room number one. How close are you guys to arriving on scene? So this is the state police calling him. I've got one shot, you know, he's not freaking out. He's not like, oh there's 20 people dead, there's kids bleeding all over the place.

1:27:38 I got this lady. She shot in the foot here. How long till you guys like get over here? Okay, where are you are you okay right now? Okay, just put it on the phone She's with the state police?

1:28:21 What what I don't know if I'm safe my classroom door is not locked the state police is standing right next to her I'd be like yeah, I got a guy with a gun here. I got the police with me. I feel pretty safe Okay, is there anybody that can lock the classroom door without being safe? Okay, just try to stay where you are, okay? Okay, try to apply pressure, okay? Okay, we have people coming okay? All right Is there any other teacher with you in there or is just students? No, there's two other adults in the room with me. Okay, alright. Are they right next to you? Where are they in the room? No, they're over on the other side of the bookshelf. Okay. Alright, are you okay right now? For now, hopefully. Okay. I don't understand. There was like a madman running around shooting a hundred rounds in five minutes killing children and teachers left and right. Everyone's so calm.

1:29:20 So here's the reason I now I realize listening to this why MBS NBC and even Al Jazeera because it doesn't fit the story Doesn't fit the story and it's and they're boring. Yes, so you make him exciting by saying oh, it's so horrible Yes, exactly who listen to our show should think about this. Yeah talking to the mic They have been telling us that these tapes are so horrible that their journalistic consideration They had to expunge them. They couldn't play them because we... Because you're portending your ears out there. It's too upsetting. It's too upsetting. And so you play the tapes, which nobody apparently wants to do for the obvious reasons. They're boring, they're not upsetting, and they don't fit the scenario. And by the way, I do want to talk a little bit about the scenario and how... I have one more, one more, then I want to hear what you have to say. This, a little, a little thing from Andrea Mitchell.

1:30:18 who is talking to one of the so-called mothers of Sandy Hook, who of course, they don't want any of this publicity, we don't want it, we don't want any of this, please stay away from us, no 911 calls, but we'll be there on December 14th when we go against all the gun regulation, or go for the gun regulation. So Andrea Mitchell, and she says something very interesting here. I want to ask you about the reports from the investigating group on Adam Lanza's mother. And the fact that she was getting him another gun, that he was apparently such a mentally challenged child, young man, and that her way apparently, it's hard to tell because there are no survivors here from that family, but her way of reaching out to him was just...

1:31:01 I'm sorry, no survivors from that family? How about his dad? How about his so-called brother, Ryan Lanza? Oh yeah, I'm sorry, they're all on the same cruise ship with Edward Snowden's stripper girlfriend, who we also can't interview, and the acting head custodian. This is such an insult. Such an insult for Pete for someone like Rachel Madcow to say that she's a journalist and all this integrity when they're doing nothing because they're either in on it They're in on it and they are horrible horrible people. I don't know that they're in on it. Then they are just stupid There you go. I think you're finally getting it. It's really insulting John. There's no way she's in on it. I

1:31:46 She goes to the White House Christmas dinner. She can't see it. I mean it's just that we have if you go to YouTube and I sent a link I mean there's there's one we had this one hour and a half thing that the two of us listen to. Let me explain this one thing when John C. Dvorak is sending me YouTube videos and saying wow this is some good analysis what do you think Then something is amiss with the real story. Something is wrong. So I had some thoughts about this because I was concerned about all the YouTube videos and the deconstruction of this happening everywhere to an extreme. Of all the things, events have happened. The Navy shooting, it wasn't that much. Nobody got into it.

1:32:27 What was a couple other of these events? The Boston bombing thing a little bit. People kind of, kind of, a little scared. Well, Boston bombing we have, we still to date, along with the governor of Massachusetts, have yet to see the footage, the video footage that exists according to all sources, of the brothers putting the backpack into the trash can moments before it exploded. We have the LAX situation which is another phony baloney deal. Too many things don't make sense. We have the crazy cop. And these are all on the cycle by the way the crazy cop that was gonna start snipering all the LA Police Department who burnt to death in a cabin in the woods. Do you know that it's been confirmed that he committed suicide? Oh he committed suicide then burned to a crisp and so when and then they drug out these perfectly pristine weapons that he had cashed. Dorner. Dorner. It wasn't one burn mark on any of them they weren't smoking.

1:33:24 yeah and then when we had the we had the the uh the bomber the uh crotch bomber when we when we first played the uh when that occurred which was a couple of years ago during christmas we played clips from people who were in uh saying whether we're filming it lawyers who are who wanted to testify actually testify in court to say, hold on a second, that's not how it went down. And we saw this guy walk him onto the plane, he had no visa, no passport, they put him right on some dude who was hanging out at the airport. Yeah, the whole thing was fishy. Hold on, here's your Dorner thing, 20 seconds. It appears the man who declared war on Los Angeles police

1:34:07 killed himself. An autopsy shows Christopher Dorner died from a gunshot wound to the head. We're also hearing Dorner hid in a condo very close to the command post set up to find him. He took off after tying up the condo's owners and stealing their car. During a last stand, a cabin erupted in flames. Police say tear gas canisters started the fire, but that was not their intention. No, they didn't intend it, and he shot himself in the head. After his wallet was found twice in Mexico and then in Northern California. So insulting people. Well anyway, we'll just push all these aside. We have the bomber. And if you recall, the one curious thing about the crotch bomber was that when they took everybody off the plane, they took them individually into a big hangar. They were separating them. Yeah, to kill them.

1:34:59 Yes, I believe that may be true. To kill them, but something fell apart in the story and so instead of killing them or making them sign something and then putting them in a witness protection, there's a million ways you can do that. It's not necessary to kill them, it gets messy. But you scare people. I mean, there was this one episode in that woman's diatribe on YouTube that she said that it's possible that that one of the sheriff's department guys or one of the police spokesman said, you will be prosecuted for talking about this. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's possible there may be a national security letter of a form that we have never seen or has ever been revealed. Yeah, it's called the two guys who show up with the sunglasses and the big gun in your nose. That's how I- And it may be to just keep people, to shut people up. So I was thinking about

1:35:55 What if this is, what if this Sandy Hook thing and these other things are exercises, sociological experiments on the public? We've known to experiment with the public, we dump chemicals in the air. Psychological warfare, PSYOPs, i.e. in the conspiratorial language, false lies. And PSYOPs, which were normally illegal, I think have been legalized. And so this could be a PSYOPs and it's a test. And what they're testing is not necessarily the gullibility of the media. They are testing the holes. They're testing the leak points. And so what they want is women like this one who went for an hour and a half finding every little screw up, the sign behind them saying they should check in, this guy showing up here but being over there. Every little mistake that, and our show is culpable in this regard. Every single mistake that they make is being documented so when they pull a whopper,

1:36:50 They'll have all the bases covered. They'll know who to kill. Well, that too. But I don't think it's going to go that way. I think what they have to do is just... These are mistakes. There are mistakes that were made. They were setting up a press conference before the event. There's all sorts of things that they're doing wrong. That was an annoying one, wasn't it? And all the black cars, apparently the whole town, in fact there's some belief by this woman that the entire town may be just all spooks. Yeah, possible. Why not? You gotta live somewhere. Hey, we gotta... it's like the firm.

1:37:29 Yeah, exactly. And so, I mean, fiction does kind of address these things in a small way. So what we might be watching actually are just exercises in leakage. In other words, what is the... let's do this and see what happens. Tear down the school and then get rid of all the evidence because it could come back on the town, could be embarrassment to somebody, whatever the case. There are holes in the story and the story holes are getting out there on YouTube and other places and we and it's not to get to these people because a lot of them are pretty flaky in the way they present this stuff, but just to see what serious mistakes were made in the presentation of the event and I think that the Sandy Hook thing is the worst that they've ever done. A very, very poor job. It's very poor. I think that Los Angeles thing was a little better.

1:38:19 I think the shoot bomb... You realize what you are saying, right? That you are actually saying this. Yeah. This is unthinkable five, six years ago. No, no. Not with the evidence presented to me. Okay. As opposed to just, oh, my car can run on water! Okay. So, I'm guessing that this is a possibility because if you're doing sociological experiments on the public and you just want to see how they react to horrible situations, then you have to like see what mistakes you made. You do a post-mortem at the end, you say well, and then let's let these things play out. What are you gonna do about these YouTubers? Let them play out. We're gonna learn more from them. Right.

1:39:10 We don't have to do a lot of work on this. The YouTube nutballs are going to get out there and they're going to do these ridiculous presentations. Let's see what they come up with and then we can make corrections in the future. We don't have to be screw up every single time we try to do one of these things. So it is, we agree then that the media that gets paid to report, they are all in or? No, no. What do you mean no? I don't believe it for a minute. But they're all in on the PSYOP, they're buying the story. Oh no, they're buying the story, yeah absolutely. That's what I mean, not they're in on it. Oh I thought you meant they were in as a part of the... No, they're all in and it's... They believe what the government tells them. But really? They have been trained by journalism schools. Yeah, you're right.

1:39:58 It's been a bit the whole machine has been created to become just an instrument of the government and what it wants that tells them this and this they have a press conference and somebody comes out and says, blah blah blah blah blah the only truth you're gonna get us through this microphone. Oh, okay, the only truth we're gonna get is through that microphone. Let me get my pen. So the media's become stenographers. Let me get my tape recorder. Yeah, let me get my tape recorder. So we if we're going to be all in on the opposite side saying that this is a bunch of setups and nobody's really being harmed necessarily or there's or they're just trying to scare the public or whatever they're trying to do at any given time it seems to be different a little bit each time. We have to assume there's an event coming up on the 14th and I went through a list I put in the newsletter of the sorts of things that have happened so far. We've had schools, we have a government facility in the Navy yard, we've had a

1:40:50 marathon. I have a thought. I have a thought. So this is our six week cycle. where something has to happen to keep the general population in line, learn how to shelter in place, cower in the corner, and pay attention to the giant voice system, which as you've noticed perhaps in the reporting, a couple of giant voice systems have been going off and there's been apologies. And people with iPhones, Mickey has it now too, the iPhone And then you look and it's like, Amber Alert! Old guy in the car, who knows? Can't find him. I got a tweet this morning, Amber Alert went off at a university, a giant voice system, so you get the big megaphones are telling you what to do, and this is complete and utter slave compliance training, and I'm thinking the next event will be a natural one.

1:41:51 And I'm, and I hate to say it for your sake, I'm thinking earthquake, something nasty, West Coast. Could be an earthquake, Southern California. Yeah. But I still think there's still, we're still missing because there's good money to be made from a sporting event. Because if a sporting event goes, you have an event there, you end up with selling a lot of goods and services and training a lot of security guards. So Sir Rod Adams, our nuke expert, he said, The only game around that time is Army Navy, which is the 14th. I've been thinking about this. I've never actually thought it would be a football game. There's too many witnesses. I think it would be like a basketball game someplace. It would be, which are on all the time. There's a basketball game every night somewhere. It'd be a basketball game or a hockey game. The hockey season's begun. You could do it at a hockey game. It'd be real easy to control. You know, John, I just...

1:42:50 I think there's more money to be made because right now we're sharp, right? We've been cocked and loaded. The typhoon in the Philippines, clearly, clearly climate change. It's so obvious. The science is in. We all know it's true. It's a fact, okay? And the fact that we're such a-holes as rich West people, I would actually say rich, white, middle-aged men, because we're getting blamed for everything, that we don't want to pay them Right? That's why they walked out of the climate conference. I'm thinking you get more mileage because they, did you hear they want to put an early warning system up on the North Pole for when the ice breaks? It's just, there's billions of dollars to be made in this scam. Billions. I think there's more to be made than what Chertoff is thinking of with his little security things.

1:43:41 So while certainly we'll see a good sporting event mishap take place. Yeah, but if this is a sociological studies, let's say that this is a psyops. Psyops and natural disasters I don't think is going to be, yeah, I think you're right. There's tons of money to be made off going in that direction. But I still think it's going to be some, it's you know, it's got to be homegrown terrorism or some sort of. Okay, okay, okay. This leads me into A couple of clips I have, I was waiting for it. This is now the two people who have oversight in the United States in Congress are Congressman Mike Rogers, he is on the Oversight Committee for the Representatives of the people of the United States, and Senator Dianne Feinstein, she is on the Oversight Committee

1:44:37 for the Senate, for the people of the United States. And they were on Candy Crowley's State of the Union together. And I was blown away by the fear-mongering, the lies, the condescending attitude, the way they're saying this. And if you watch the video, which is in the show notes, 571.nashownotes.com, under video, you'll see Rogers is looking at Crowley. You know how it's so funny because there's, I don't want to say his name, but there's someone we know who could talk just like this.

1:45:15 And they'll give you they'll talk to you looking at you sideways like hey, you know, this is some really serious shit I'm talking about right now. And that's why I'm looking at you sideways. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's sideways look the sideways guy It is a constant reminder that we are only one missed piece of data away from another terror attack against the US This by the way is a great setup from the news model. Oh, I'm sorry She didn't go to the right modeling school, but of course she's Rubenesque and so you know, that's credibility. She literally just said we're one piece of information, a missed piece of information away from death. Just so you know. I recently spoke with the chairman of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees, Dianne Feinstein and Mike Rogers.

1:46:03 The big question that's always asked, are we safer now than we were a year ago, two years ago? Oh, John, do you want to give a shot at the answer before Diane takes over or do you want to... Is this the same Diane Feinstein who like what four years ago asked these douchebags one after the other that were the head of the Homeland Security, the head of the intelligence, the head of the military. Are we gonna have an attack on the homeland in the next 60 days? This is the same woman? That would be the one. And they all said yes? Now if you wanted to scare people, if you wanted to scare them more than normal, what would, what is the, if people are already afraid of let's say, I don't know, bombs, let's just take bombs for a second. What would scare you more than just a bomb?

1:46:54 Well, there's all kinds of things. Just a bomb, I would say. A bird flu, a rampant bird flu in the Bay Area. That would bother me. No, no, no. You've got to think simpler. But okay, here we go. In general, I don't think so. I think terror is up worldwide. Terror is up worldwide. Statistics indicate that. The fatalities are way up. The numbers are way up. There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being reinforced for those bombs. There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being enforced for the bombs, the numbers are up, the statistics don't lie, it's all up, more dead people. Listen to it again, it's un-ba-lievable what she's saying. Way up, the numbers are way up.

1:47:45 There are new bombs very big bombs trucks being reinforced for those bombs. There are bombs that go through magnetometers The bomb maker is still alive. There are more groups than ever and and there is huge malevolence out there. Huge malevolence! Is she doing a summary of the TV show Blacklist? The bomb maker is still alive? That's right, he's still alive. The guy who makes the bombs that can go through the magnetometer, he's still alive. He's making bombs. We're not talking just regular bombs, we're talking very big bombs. And there are trucks being reinforced for these big bombs. I mean, this is... If she knows that, why don't they just go grab the truck guy?

1:48:27 Let's switch over to Rogers. And by the way, before you go on, you have to give yourself Clip of the Day for that gem. That is very kind of you. I think though, I'll take it. I'll take it now and then... You can grouse about it later. Just take it. Big bombs! Now let's switch over to Rogers. Rogers is going to, he has to lay out kind of the, you know, he's got to start explaining, you know, where the fear is coming into because it's not just big bombs. No, I mean, there's got to be more than that. For the same very reason. So the pressure on our intelligence services to get it right, to prevent an attack,

1:49:11 are enormous. And it's getting more difficult because we see the Al Qaeda as we knew it before is metastasizing to something different. It's metastasizing into something different. Okay, more affiliates than we've ever had before meaning more groups that were operated independently of al-Qaeda have now joined Al-Qaeda around the world all of them have at least some aspiration to commit an act of violence in the United States or against Western targets every single one of them hates us all around the world they've now switched to this notion that maybe smaller events are okay.

1:49:59 where they couldn't get any more of these big events lined up. There was no way you could, I mean whatever happened, you know, they're just not going to do it. Correct. We're not going to see it is what was understood as they wiped out most of the Al Qaeda guys who might be able to dream something up. Right. And so then they switched over the message to lots of small events. Yes. Now I want to mention something here just before we continue with this clip. There have been no lots of small events. There have been some scam events and some dubious events that have hardly done much damage to anybody. In fact, according to testimony by the people themselves, only one actual event was thwarted that was a real event. All the rest was bullcrap or goaded by the FBI into giving some guy a plastic box that says you call that number it'll explode and it doesn't because they've been setting him up and feeding him drugs or whatever.

1:50:53 So we don't have any evidence of any of this, they're just... I don't... you think these guys, these two idiots were working on commission or something? Well, it's the political capital. That's exactly what it is. And these people also need to be voted out as soon as possible. This is Feinstein, California. Where's Rogers from? Michigan. Vote him out people. I don't care who you put in, he's clearly compromised. He's compromised, he's sitting there lying to you, trying to frighten you into submission. To commit an act of violence in the United States or against Western targets all around the world. They've now switched to this notion that maybe smaller events are okay. So if you have more smaller events than bigger events, they think that might still lead to their objectives and their goals. That makes it

1:51:42 exponentially harder for our intelligence services to stop an event like that. Because essentially one person can do a small event. Absolutely. Thank you for being so helpful, Candy. Yes, thank you for completing the script. Yes, one person. All it takes is one crazy jihadi. Now we've got to go... Did she ask a follow-up question? Which would be, so does that mean that all this surveillance and NSA snooping and all the rest of it is pretty useless? No. Did she say that? No, she says exactly the opposite! Exactly, which will be coming up in a moment. First we have to let Diane, she has to talk about the jihadis and the lone wolves and she, at this point, I think she'd had to pee or she loses track, she loses the plot.

1:52:25 But it was her turn to talk. One of the things that the senator said was that there is more hatred out there, more. And why is that? I think there is a real displaced aggression. In this very fundamentalist jihadist Islamic displaced or misplaced she said displaced She says displaced and she and she literally just calls out Islam Which is funny and why is that I think? There is a real displaced aggression, but what is why is that wrong when she says displaced or why is it actually correct?

1:53:05 I'm looking at it now. I'll play the rest. Okay. This very fundamentalist, jihadist, Islamic community. Oh, it's a community. It's very fundamental. It's small. It's Islamic and it's a community. And that is that the West is responsible for everything that goes wrong. Oh yes. Okay, so here's the difference. Displace means that one thing has taken the place of another. But it doesn't have any subtext, whereas misplaced would say that one thing has taken the place of another but it's wrong. So she actually uses the wrong word. She's saying that yeah, now they hate us but they probably should. She's actually on the wrong side of this argument by using that word. Well, is she or is she... words matter.

1:53:53 That what the heart is full of the mouth bubbles over with. And that the only thing that's gonna solve this is Islamic Sharia law and the concept of the caliphate. Okay, so now we know the problem. The problem is we're doing it wrong. We're doing it wrong. Behind the times on this thing, but okay go on we're wrong and Sharia law will solve it along with the concept of the caliphate so she oh hi actually that's what she said hi Diane welcome to Yes, and I see more groups groups more fundamentalist more jihadist more determined to kill to get to where they want to get so

1:54:34 It's not an isolated phenomenon. You see these groups spread a web of connections. So she's so out of it at this point that she is now taking this full circle from it's individuals who can blow us up but they've created a web. And we're in their evil web of Sharia law and the caliphate and they're going to kill. She said kill, and then she said kill us! And this includes North Africa, it includes the Middle East, it includes other areas as well. the great places we've got to send our troops. Back to Rogers, lay out the fear points, Rogers. So you see what's happening in a place like Syria where you have a pooling of Al Qaeda members and affiliates of Al Qaeda in a way we've never seen before. We brought them there, we sent them there, we sent them weapons and arms. What do you mean?

1:55:27 We've got he actually is saying we've got not we're seeing we have no he's saying it's we only see what's happening in a place like Syria where you have a pooling of al-qaeda members and affiliates of al-qaeda in a way we've never seen before at the level of numbers that we have never seen before and here's the scary part of this some thousands of people showing up to participate in that, in their mind, jihadist effort are Westerners. They're coming back! Meaning they have Western passports. A percentage of them have already gone home, including the United States by the way, is included in that Western number.

1:56:08 We we are very very concerned that these folks who have Western paper have gone there participated in combat events are trained are further radicalized Now have the ability to go back in Western countries. It could be my neighbor Hey, we know is all the evidence of this. I don't see bridges blowing up buildings being toppled just kidnappings don't you nothing going on because of our The men and women in our intelligence community have been stopping this, thwarting this. We've been, there's at least 54 cases. You are safe citizen, you're safe citizen because we

1:56:48 are awesome. that's just one place and it's starting to spread you saw what happened in Lebanon recently where they blew up the Iranian embassy this is all starting to spread Iraq is having its problems now spreading into Lebanon Jordan has issues Turkey along the border has issues this is very very very concerning it's very concerning I'm very concerned I'm very afraid they're doing such a great job of protecting us play the no-fly list clip

1:57:29 A little intervention by Dvorak. Six-year-old Elissa Thomas is like any little girl. She loves her dolls and she's already excited about the first grade. But according to the US government, you should be worried about what she's up to. I'm putting equipment on here. We were like puzzled. I'm like, well, you know, she's kind of six years old. This is not something that should be typical but like well okay. Dr. Santosh Thomas was just made aware that his oldest daughter is on the list the terror watch list that impacts travelers who could be a threat to national security. Alyssa's parents found out at the continental check-in counter during a recent trip from Cleveland to Minneapolis. Well you know you're laughing about that John? She might be going to Minneapolis to blow it up. Don't ruff! Shut up, don't ruff!

1:58:20 She could have a plastic bomb in her. These were coming into this country, two of them, aimed at synagogues in Illinois. I'd forgotten about that, that was good. Now, by the way, what's a magnetometer got to do with a printer cartridge? Nothing. Bring me that printer cartridge, you gotta walk it through. Is that a printer cartridge up your butt? Yeah, okay, no worries.

1:59:03 Well, here's the answer to your question actually. So you think about what's happened with the recent disclosures. We have now three Al-Qaeda affiliate groups have have changed the way they communicate means it's less likely that we're going to be able to detect something prior to an event that goes operational meaning that they've already started the final planning stages to blow something up. Here comes the final word. Or shoot someone. And so we're fighting amongst ourselves here in this country about the role of our intelligence community that is having an impact on our ability to stop what is a growing number of threats and so we've got to shake ourselves out of this

1:59:42 pretty soon and understand that our intelligence services are not the bad guys. There you go, that's the final word. We're not the bad guys. The bad guys, the al-Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence services, Chinese intelligence services. Hold on, I just gotta write it down. Let me hold on a second. Al-Qaeda, al-Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence, Chinese intelligence, They're the bad guys. Oh, okay. Bad guys. The Al-Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence services, Chinese intelligence services, the Quds Force that operates terrorism events all around the world. Those are the folks we need to focus our attention and our energy on in order to keep America safe. I think that this should be an international scandal. I think you're dead on on this one. That would have been clip of the day, you're right. Because this idiot just declared war on Russia and China.

2:00:33 Yeah, they're like al-Qaeda. The war on terror includes Russia and China apparently. Yes, this is how insane this is. How come people aren't up in arms about this? This guy needs to be removed from this committee. He needs to be removed from Washington DC. Yes he does. People please, you Michigan folks, you've gotten better than that. The guy is a stooge. Yeah, yes. But he and when you see the video and he's talking to candy looking sideways the whole time He's saying it and he talks like this I mean clearly it's the al-qaeda and the al-qaeda affiliates and it's the Russian intelligence services that Chinese These are the bad guys. These are the people trying to kill us people. They're trying to kill us. Isn't that right? Diane? He's telling us that Russian intelligence is trying to kill us. Yes, that's Chinese intelligence is over here trying to set something up and try to kill us. Yes, but he said yeah, I

2:01:29 Exactly. Uh-huh. Meanwhile, of course, the monetization of Edward Snowden continues, as does the conversation around this. It's getting kind of interesting. Pierre Omidyar. We need to either pronounce his name properly or give him a good nickname. I think Omidar is fine. Omidar. It's got to be something that irritates him a little bit when we say it wrong. He's never going to listen to this show in a million years. Well, first of all, we called him Peter. I think that's kind of funnier. Pete. Pete Omidyar. Pete O'Meade here Peter meteor he I guess he had to finally write a piece which I doubt he wrote about the PayPal

2:02:18 Shut down that and cost wiki leaks is momentum, right? And and he wrote a piece which is entitled Wiki leaks press freedom and free expression in the digital age Which I I pooped my pants laughing at the idiocy he turns it around he turns around a clear act that PayPal shut off wiki leaks for months and And even though I think he says fairly that, you know, when you're a publicly listed company and the government says, hey, you got to stop that, which of course they had no right to do, but okay. He wrote that, but the whole article is about, well,

2:03:03 You know, what is protest in the digital age? You know, a denial of service attack? Yeah, you have a link to the show notes, I'm sure, for that article. Yeah, of course. But yeah, what was that all about? It was like he was off the tracks, off the rails, just going crazy with these different assertions trying to cover his bases as a kind of a rich guy from Silicon Valley who really has to protect his wealth and his investors' wealth. And then the guy starting up this great newspaper or whatever it's going to be with a bunch of left-wingers. I find it distressing to read. Well, yes. And of course the conversation is now all about

2:03:52 the reporting and Glenn Greenwald and Pete Omicar, but we're not really discussing the reporting itself which is not journalism. I'm sorry it's just not journalism. So we had this two pages from another PowerPoint deck are published by the Washington Post and it's, now this time it was Barton Gelman who was in on the monetization. And the title of the piece is NSA's Huge Trove of Location Records. And so what is being given to us, and I'm just gonna play devil's advocate because I got nothing better to do. What is given to us is two pages of a PowerPoint deck.

2:04:42 page one I'm looking at it right now it's it's from a program apparently called fascia FASCIA which could be split up as an acronym as well but we don't know exactly and it says example of current volumes and limits and it's a it's a it's a bar graph that when you look at it you can deduce that five million record five billion records per year or per day are collected by the NSA per day and then the second page of this deck which I'm sure there were more pages because it's page 5 on the deck this bar graph and page 26

2:05:27 Is the... uh, the... the metadata being collected which is location... But you think there might be more to it? Yes! And it's a fucking PowerPoint deck! This is not proof! This is not proof! I'm just... I gotta say it! It's not proof! Yeah, it's a big pile of smoke and I'd like to know about it, but you need sources, interviews, confirmation or denials. You need more than this. This is not journalism. This is republishing or whatever you want to call it. And it makes me mad that people buy into it. Now, do I suspect it's true? Sure! But it's not journalism. It's just not.

2:06:15 Or is it? Well I would say with the redefinitions that are taking place and notably with WikiLeaks where they would take a pile of stuff and just put it out there and then call it journalism because you know... Yeah but even WikiLeaks didn't really do that John. They really didn't do that. I know they still, well with our stuff but with other stuff if you look over the WikiLeaks over the years has essentially taken a pile of stuff and put it out there. And yeah, there's been stuff that's been looked at by the government first. So there is a scam involved in that. But no, all I'm seeing is that they take a PowerPoint slide, put it up, it's almost like a creative writing exercise in high school.

2:06:58 Here, write an essay about this slide. And so he gets the slide and it says they're following people around on their phones, which I believe is probably true. This constitutes the evidence. It could have been a fake. I don't know who did this slide. I never met the guy. Could be bull crap. Yes. The NSA failing to deny it but they don't want to talk about anything anyway so you don't even know if that's true. So here's how the Washington Post gets away with this. So the article is by Barton Gelman and Ashkan Soltani. So you got to look, well you don't have to believe me. Ashkan Soltani, he's a consultant. He's a, I could do his job. He's a technology consultant. He's the kind of guy that says yes Google Glass is very effective.

2:07:43 And the article is NSA tracking cell phone locations worldwide Snowden documents show And then it says, this is the article, the National Security Agency is gathering nearly 5 billion records a day on the whereabouts of cell phones around the world according to top secret documents and interviews with US intelligence officials. What interviews? There's not a single interview, not a single thing printed in this entire piece in the Washington Post, which I might want to point out is now owned by Jeff Bezos, who's on the level on the level of Pete Omicar, okay, another Silicon Valley guy who pwned the journalism on Cyber Monday with this huge bullcrap story about Amazon drones delivering packages which I might want to point out every single mainstream news outfit fell for hook, line and sinker. Not me. No, of course not you. But PC Magazine didn't publish your column.

2:08:45 Yeah, they did it. They ran on Wednesday. Oh, okay. Well, it took them long enough. Yeah, I asked them why I wasn't up. They said, well, all your comms go up on Wednesday. No, I know what's going on with them. You don't have to say it. Whatever the case, it went up on Wednesday and they kept the good lines in there. So that's not... And it was the 60 Minutes. It was Charlie Rose. These people should be banned from... Is there a card? Is there like a press card? It should be taken away from them. Because that wasn't that's journalism that's your highfalutin journalism? Actually I have a quote from the interview in the column which I should probably open up and just read it. Yes please do. Part of part of Rose's journalism style. Go to PCMag.com real quick just take a second.

2:09:35 Didn't we used to have that clip of Charlie Rose sounding really creepy? No, that creepy clip. You have that clip. That's the one where he leans and he's talking to some woman and he says, what's it like to be sexy? I think it was Angelina Jolie, wasn't it? Oh, it was Angelina Jolie. I don't think I have that clip anymore. for some role and don't throw clips away. I can't. It may be mislabeled. Okay, let me just read the last paragraphs. Why the media doesn't see this as a bad idea. Giving away the milk as it were is always baffling. Bezos is only interesting character to business owners who admire his plug. I'm saying why Bezos getting attention to the public. He's no Kim Kardashian, yet we run uncritical puff pieces as though he were to make it work. 60 minutes uses fawning softballers. Charlie, slow it down because it's a good article. Slow it down. Take your time.

2:10:21 To make it work, 60 Minutes uses fawning softballer Charlie. I never met a rich guy I didn't like Rose. Good one. For Bezos, he is the perfect interviewer. Here is an example of Rose's probing style. Jeff Bezos, you come and get your package and we can do that. I mean we can do half-hour delivery. Charlie Rose, half-hour delivery? Bezos, half-hour delivery. Anyway, that's the kind of interview. Well, people go read that column. I'll put a link to it in the show notes. Yeah, so this is what journalism has become and it's unnecessary.

2:11:13 There's no need for it whatsoever. It's compromised from beginning to end. Don't think for a second CBS is not compromised by Amazon. Please. And doing this on a day when it's Cyber Monday, everyone needs to be thinking about Amazon. It was a commercial. If they didn't get paid for it, they should send a bill after the fact. But then look at all of the newspapers, all of them. Yes, this is fantastic. This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. My tweet was... And that thing supposedly could lift five pounds? That box was empty. This is not going to happen.

2:11:50 This is not going to happen. You know, if you think this is going to happen, then where's my flying car? This will not happen. It's just not. No, this can't happen. It's not possible. It's a nightmare. It's not even within the realm of possibility of happening. You can't even say that it's not going to happen. Well, yeah, I can say that, but I'm also going to say it's just like the driverless car. It's not going to happen very soon. This is never gonna happen. The driverless car could happen. The driverless car is on a street that's paved in this map. It's going to take decades. It's going to take decades before the driverless car is on the street. Put it in the book, we'll both be dead before this is mainstream transportation. And I will come back and laugh at you.

2:12:43 It's not going to happen. Anyway, my point would be there is journalism in today's world and I'm not to belabor the point and you know and I know that you work for them but look at who's advertising on PC magazine. It It's the model is broken. You don't need a network. You don't need to have a group. You don't need to have a sugar daddy, venture capital, Silicon Valley bitch to pay you. You don't need it. Glenn Greenwald, I'm happy if you just want to sell the documents and stories about the documents to individual newspapers. It's a great business model. Nothing wrong with it. I'm all for it. Do it. But you don't need Pierre Armacar for it.

2:13:30 What do you need him for? Because you need a lease vehicle or something? A lot of people really enjoy working for someone. Well, we don't even know if he's working for, working with, is he a shareholder, is he beholden to... We don't know the deal. You need some... Now all of a sudden you need transparency. You're dumb. We'll never get that. Greenwald, you're dumb. You're stupid for doing it this way. And you sold yourself out because you couldn't keep your fat trap shut. You were so horny about this deal, you were so turned on that you leaked it yourself to BuzzFeed, you moron. And I think that will fail. And then you hire Jay Rosen? Are you kidding me? No, people. If you want anything that is at least honest, this is the place you need to be.

2:14:25 Well, with that in mind... Yes, indeed. now we didn't get much action today i have to say how's our model working out john brett meet beachum likes us he's in serena queensland australia hundred eleven dollars eleven cents hi guys great show can i get a deducing and a call to stage from roberta from arley beach or airly beach well so we have uh... we we do have to make it rains and uh... which i think we have three actually we got merit femke and uh...

2:15:05 My bird is so okay. Well, let me first deduce him You've been D douched Okay, does he are you ready to do some of this? Yeah, I guess so. Okay, okay Okay We're backstage calling up Roberta from Airlie Beach. Give it up for this lovely lady who likes Harry Potter and the Clint Eastwood movies. Get your fistful of dollars ready for Roberta. Calling Merritt and Femke to the champagne room. Boys, you do not want to miss these two beauties. They're ambidextrous and contortionist. Bend your elbows for Merritt and Femke.

2:15:49 Yeah, good work. Femke. But okay, we know Femke. What? They need material. We need material? Yeah, they need material. That's what they do. They make some joke. Yeah. These curls. It was pretty good. Alright, onward. Sir Borislov Marinov, our buddy in Aliso Viejo, California. $88.88. A bunch of eights. Oh, hold on a second. I know what he's looking for. He's looking for... Ham 8s. Yep, got it. Ham 8s. Ham 8s. He's got a birthday coming up. We got him on the list. David Cain in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. $70. He's got a noagendablog.com. Check it out. Noagendablog.com wants to feature you in No Agenda style articles. Take the feed from No Agenda News Network. This is of course...

2:16:46 Is it David? That's not the right name. This is our guy from noagenescd.com, isn't it? Is it David? Is David Cain, the Noagenecd.com guy? Why am I thinking it's not David? Hold on a second. I got an email from him. Let me just double check. While you're doing that, I'll read Michael Greer. Shikshini. Shikshini, Pennsylvania. Shikshini, hit it. 69! 69, dude! Got it. Once this was enough for his lovely Miss Sarah. Yeah. Well... Oliver Kyrie Lee... Kyrie Lies. Cool brother. Ky... Let's see if you can pronounce that. You might have a clue. Kree Lies. Kree Lies. That could be... No, Kirie Lies. Kirie Lies. Kirie Lies in Berlin, Deutschland. Kirie Lies.

2:17:36 It's Greek. It's a Greek name, he says now. They say, look at his thing. Anonymous, Los Angeles, California, 6969. He says he's been a boner for a while now. He's a donor. Clay... Oh, brother. Bachevice. You think so? Yeah, but Bachevice. Tucson, Arizona is where all the... A lot of... Yeah. So he sent a couple emails. He sent one Sunday and said, John, skip me. But then I looked at his email and he sent it in, it came in at 1.30am. The cutoff is midnight. Yeah. Well Arizona's on their own time, that's the weird thing about that state. So maybe he thought he was getting in on time. No but then that still would have been 12...

2:18:23 Because they're one hour away from you. But anyway, Clay, thank you very much. And he actually sent me another email today. He said, I know donations are down. Hope you saw mine. I sent it in Saturday night. You guys missed it in the last show. So I think that was just a... Well, here it is. 69-69. And that closes the segment. And we don't need to play anymore. Robert Blair in Airlie Beach. Oh, he gave us another $56.78 besides the $200. Hmm. Hmm. No, wait. Does that make him... I think that makes him executive producer as well. Okay, put him up there. Good catch. Robert Blair, I just said Robert Blair, what am I thinking? Michael Van Laar in Rochester, New York, 5150 as we quickly...

2:19:10 Run out of names. He's got a birthday coming up put him on the list Jeremy Alexander Monterey, Maryland 50 bucks also $50 from Christopher Walker and Matthew Janis, Ooski in Chicago also 50 from Alex Martinez bath in Avon uh... france cia and she he works for rooster massachusetts massachusetts i'm sorry that they were on brett ferrell oklahoma city and that'll do it that's all we got that's what we get after thanksgiving as the typical situation that we run into when we have a long holiday people did no was listening to all of my i'm very well i'm very happy i didn't do anything with those uh... sandy hooker tapes i'm happy i didn't watch c-span to get that duncan hunter douchebag

2:19:54 I'm really happy I didn't do anything because I feel like that would have been really unfair if I had done all that work. Well, that's the way it goes. That's the way it goes, okay. Dvorak.org slash N-A- Help us out people for the Sunday show! It's your birthday, birthday, on NOVA Chamber! Mike Nikolaychuk, 34, is his age on, well that's what he turned yesterday. Happy birthday Mike, long supporter of the show. Chris Eisbach, celebrating along with Sir Bereslof Marinov and Michael Van Laar, 36, today. Happy birthday from your friends here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!

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2:21:26 Virginia City is just dynamite little town. You should check out Virginia City, Nevada when you're in the area. Indeed. Dynamite little town. And then we have a knighting, Chris Eisbach. He said he was looking forward to becoming part of the No Agenda Brewers Guild. Now, John is in charge of all things beer, so all I do here is the knightings, and therefore I'd like you, Chris Eisbach, to step forward, please. Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more. We are thereby very happy to welcome you to the Knight of the Round Table. The round table of the knights, and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Chris! Knight of the Noah's Inner Round Table for you, sir. Opium and warm orange juice, librarians and Jager bombs, hookers and blow, rampoys and chardonnay, hot pans and booze, wenches and beer, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, or maybe just for you, sir, some mutton and mead. And thank you again for supporting the show. Hopefully we'll see more support from people for Sunday, because we are... we're doing some work.

2:22:28 Sure. Well, you're particularly vulnerable because I know I noticed you keep doing the moonlighting thing. I heard you on CCTV. I don't know how they would did we on green screen? I couldn't figure it out. But So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally. Haider Al Mahrooui, CCTV, Cairo. What? What? When you're using that stupid, that phony Dutch accent? Is that really his name, Adam Curry? That's what it sounds like to me. He said Adam Curie CCTV. That wasn't you? No. Cairo. Hold on, let me listen to that again. That's pretty weird, John. So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally. Adel Mahroui CCTV, Cairo. Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

2:21:26 Virginia City is just dynamite little town. You should check out Virginia City, Nevada when you're in the area. Indeed. Dynamite little town. And then we have a knighting, Chris Eisbach. He said he was looking forward to becoming part of the No Agenda Brewers Guild. Now, John is in charge of all things beer, so all I do here is the knightings, and therefore I'd like you, Chris Eisbach, to step forward, please. Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more. We are thereby very happy to welcome you to the Knight of the Round Table. The round table of the knights, and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Chris! Knight of the Noah's Inner Round Table for you, sir. Opium and warm orange juice, librarians and Jager bombs, hookers and blow, rampoys and chardonnay, hot pans and booze, wenches and beer, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, or maybe just for you, sir, some mutton and mead. And thank you again for supporting the show. Hopefully we'll see more support from people for Sunday, because we are... we're doing some work.

2:22:28 Sure. Well, you're particularly vulnerable because I know I noticed you keep doing the moonlighting thing. I heard you on CCTV. I don't know how they would did we on green screen? I couldn't figure it out. But So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally. Haider Al Mahrooui, CCTV, Cairo. What? What? When you're using that stupid, that phony Dutch accent? Is that really his name, Adam Curry? That's what it sounds like to me. He said Adam Curie CCTV. That wasn't you? No. Cairo. Hold on, let me listen to that again. That's pretty weird, John. So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally. Adel Mahroui CCTV, Cairo. Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

2:23:27 Yeah, I'm all over the place. You're getting way too much work. I had an idea by the way. I had an idea for us to make more money. Are you interested? Now, I have to ask you a couple questions because I'm not sure if we can pull this off. But now you've told me you've done these big technology books before. Now, before getting into the rant of how O'Reilly might rip us off, the way I understood... O'Reilly's on this killings thing. He's killing different people and he's making so much money with these killing books that he's not ripping anybody off.

2:24:04 So if there were a technology book and I have the idea which I want to pitch to you, the way you've explained it to me in the past is, you know, we sell the idea, then we get the money, and then we pay freelancers like 50 guys to write little bits and pieces of it because, you know, there's no way you wrote the entire Windows 3.1 telecommunications book by yourself, obviously. You managed it, right? It's very clearly outlined in the front of the book how these books are produced. Right. But that's how it works, correct? It's one of the ways you can do a big book. Can we still do this? Is this model still available? Because I have a great idea. Well, you know, publishers don't care anymore about anything and the advances are down the tubes. I don't think so. I mean, it's possible. On a long shot, we can get some agent that would pick it up and try to move it. Shall I give you the idea? Yeah, sure. I'm going to pitch this. So you know that I've been on this

2:25:00 long-term mission of, you know, we got to know how to set up our own email servers, you got to know how to install Linux. You want to do it? Yeah, okay. I think I know already where you're going with this. I bet you don't. I bet you don't. I bet I do. But tell me, go on, tell. It's the post-apocalyptic technology survivor kit. Exactly. So this, and we write it from the viewpoint of, okay, the EMP struck, the only thing left were like maybe we'll say Dell laptops or something, like all the Apple stuff is all fried. And of course Dell would pay us for that. Or Lenovo. We could figure out what whoever's got the money, whoever's got the money and then we'll explain you know how to turn it into a server, how to you know how to and then but we'll also add some ham radio stuff in there with digital to create ham mesh networks. You know Google's gone, Twitter is fried, all the people basically Silicon Valley perished

2:25:54 Right? In the apocalypse. And this book explains how you can rebuild your... How you rebuild society. Society, yes, thank you. Exactly. What do you think? Okay. I think that's actually a doable book. Now, I mentioned this to Mickey, of course, and first of all, she rolled her eyes like, oh, okay. And then I said, God is bad enough. The guy's bad enough. No, no, no. It was just about the book in general. And she said, and she's okay. And who do you want to write this? Do you want to write this yourself? I'm like, no, I'm not. And then I said, John, and she went, what? He never finishes any books! Are you crazy? This is too good an idea! Hey, this reputation I'm getting is not good. But I thought that maybe because the model is you get a whole bunch... because we're not going to write how to install... No, it's a project. It's a project management thing. Yeah! You get a bunch of people assigned to the different... The way these books are done, these monster books... And by the way, can I just... Let me point something out. There's an extra...

2:26:58 extra coolness about this particular book. It's a real book. It has to be paper. Oh no, it has to be a real book, obviously. Hello! But we can do hardcover with, you know, like fireproof. We can do a special edition. Oh yeah. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Asbestos. Yes. Asbestos. But it's a great gift. People will love giving this as a gift. No one's gonna read it. but it'll be fun to give it to people as a Christmas gift. These are really outstanding title. So, it's doable as a project. The key to success with these large, large book projects is that you have to, with the real work,

2:27:41 There's two phases to the real work is first deciding on the great details of what you need in the book, how long these chapters have to be and then who's going to write them and then you have to find people and you have to solicit some will do it for free you can get a lot of free material from public relations firms that will write stuff for their companies. If their company's involved, the company's involved. And so you know they're the only guys who make the software radio and they'll write it up. By the way, can I just stop you there? Now that I think about it, we have to do that in its entirety. That's the smartest way to go. We just go to all the manufacturers and say we've chosen you, you,

2:28:21 Yeah, and otherwise it'll be the other guy. That sounds good in practice. It doesn't necessarily work. There's a couple of these operations that won't help you. It's like Bunting's Windows. Let me think, Microsoft is one of them. But they're not in because it's Linux, so we don't need Microsoft. Okay, well then you have to find someone from Linux. It's non-trivial to get the work done for free. It's a little better shot at it for paying. No, no, I want a publisher to give us an advance to create the book. You're not going to get enough money. Really? Can we do a Kickstarter? Maybe.

2:28:58 Kickstarter might do it. Whatever the case is, it's a good idea for a book. I would gladly do it. And I think I like the idea of being gimmicky. I like the gimmick. I got another part to the gimmick. It's two volumes bound and one of them is a hollow book with a raspberry pie inside. Well now you're bringing in complications that publishers will not deal with. Alright. I'm just trying to make us some dough, bro. Yeah, Dobro. Dobro! Yeah, we'll call it the Dobro. Do you think that the earlier discussion we had where I said there might be testing the public with sociological trickery to try to figure out what we'll put up with, how gullible we are and all the rest of it, that this may be now also going on in Northern Ireland? Have you heard about what's going on there? Play part one.

2:29:51 Well, the sectarian conflict known as the Troubles in Northern Ireland has resurfaced in recent weeks. Police have tightened security around Belfast after a failed bomb attack in the city centre. There are fears of a rise in descendant activity after several years of calm. CCTV correspondent Lodra Sexton has this report. The streets are bustling with shoppers, yet fears for safety linger in the air. It's less than a week since two masked men hijacked a car, forcing a man to drive 60 kilos of explosives into a shopping center car park in the heart of the city.

2:30:27 The attack was unsuccessful as the bomb failed to detonate, but many here are worried as this is the first threat on such a scale to be seen in Belfast in years. Northern Ireland is at its lowest ebb since the negotiation of the Good Friday Agreement because what's happening at the moment is, as I said, this extremism is filling this political vacuum And the issue of the past is being used as a surrogate by those who want to dismantle the negotiated deal. Security across the city is tight with increased police checkpoints and safety measures. It sounds like they just want to increase some security in Belfast. Well here you have another situation that makes no sense. You get two masked men hijack the car to drive a bunch of explosives into a mall. What?

2:31:25 I mean, that's just idiotic in itself. That's not a great plan, by the way. If you want to blow up the mall, this is not a great plan to hijack a car. How about renting one? Meanwhile, we have a part two, which is short here, which is the public's reaction to this is exactly what we get here, or at least the media presents it that way by presenting only that people say, oh, it's better to be safe than sorry. I think it's great to have all this extra security. People here are saying that it's been many years since they've seen security checkpoints like this on their way into a shopping centre. But traders here are adamant to keep the public safe in this busy period leading up to Christmas. And the public seem to welcome it. It's necessary and I suppose it's like a message to everybody else. You know, there are people causing it out there and we're saying that

2:32:15 This is what is needed now and this is what has caused, this is what it's leading to now. Say a few more people will probably go to the out of town shopping centres and places like that but there are certain places you have to go in Belfast and certain shops you can only get in Belfast. I don't see any problem with people getting a little extra time with the security. Yeah, well this true, but I you all there is some historical context to Belfast specifically which cannot be ignored depending on how you're asking. I'm not ignoring that, but it's just this sounds as though they're true. This sounds like you know that like that earlier story where it's like they're trying to incite something or get it. Geez, you know things were better when we're having these bombings and let's get it back going again. I have the premise. I got the premise now.

2:32:59 Mark Zuckerberg turns out to be a lone wolf al-Qaeda jihadist. He blows himself up at TED taking out Gates and Tim Cook And all those guys. You're gonna do a novel now? Is that what this is? That's the premise. So then and of course, there's no leaders and all the all the the people these companies They're like what and they don't know what to do and then you know Then they just like everything just falls apart and then it just burns down. I Because they know, you know, oh no I know what it is because the free food stops at Google everyone just stops coming in. Right? Okay. Wishful thinking. This is your premise for the apocalyptic book? Well I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Then here's something disturbing. How are we on time? I don't know exactly how we're on time because I only have half the recording. We are, we've got 10 minutes and then we're done. Yeah.

2:33:57 This is very very disturbing. Every year in the United States of America we propagate the fun fairy tale of Santa Claus to our children in multiple ways. You know, some read the Twas the Night Before Christmas book, which is a tradition in my family all through the house. Not a creature with stirring, not even a mouse. Really? Yes. Somebody sits down and reads this? Yes, and my daughter still wants me to read it. And it's fun and it's a tradition and it's nice. How much fun is it? Well, because I get to sometimes, you know, I put in different words. I do the X-rated version from time to time.

2:34:38 Then of course we have ham radio operators who are morons and and the ham rate and there'll be one guy and he'll be pretend to be Santa on the ham radio oh and then all the kids can gather around their dad's ham radio and talk to Santa which is is pathetic it's just pathetic but the worst part is is we have the NORAD defense mechanism. Oh yeah, this bothers me too. NORAD of course is the- They're marginalizing NORAD for the benefit of bullcrap. NORAD of course is the actual outfit that was doing a drill and let the hijacked airplanes crash into buildings. Thanks NORAD!

2:35:26 It's run by I think a Canadian guy because I think it's North America so it's I guess it is the United States and Canada and they have so Norad always tracks Santa and give him a free pass to fly from the North Pole down to North America where he starts his venue and of course he has to fly all around the world to hand out gifts to children everywhere who have been very nice and are on the nice list. This year if you go to noradsanta.org they have completely militarized him. He gets an escort of F-16 fighter jets

2:36:06 And I have a video, of which I have the audio here, of the command center, and listen to how militarized this has become. I mean, they might as well just put a swastika on his fricking sleigh. Let's go over to the Pentagon now. Oh, hold on. That's actually, I don't want to have that. I have the... I don't want Brolf set up. I want the actual video. Oh. And this is where everything freezes, of course. Why would it work? NORAD tracks Santa. There it is. Rethink what the web... We now join the crew of the North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command in the command center as they track Santa on a test flight in preparation for his big journey on December 24th. It's a test flight he's doing, John. This is just a test. Don't worry, kids. He's not really coming in. It's just a test. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Lieutenant General Alain Parent, Deputy Commander NORAD.

2:36:58 This will be a test flight for Santa Claus, call sign Big Red One. Big Red One! He's got a big red one in his sleigh, kids! Santa will depart the North Pole and head directly for North American airspace. We all know that Santa travels faster than starlight, but this is nothing that our technologies can't handle. We will now conduct our comms check. Sir, Intel can confirm that Jack Frost and the Abominable Snowman will not be a threat during the test flight. Sir, this is the air domain. Airspace is clear from all threats. Threats? Airspace is clear from all threats? Sir, this is Cyber. Our anti-gringe viral is up and we will continue to monitor for threats. Cyber, anti-gringe viral is up, John. We're all good. Sir, land domain here. We have verified load bearing capacity for all rooftops which reindeer will land on.

2:37:50 Sir, this is Maritime. Our ships are standing by, ready to conduct any gift rescue operations if necessary. Sir, in the space domain, we have optimal visibility for our satellites to... Space domain! ...big red one. This is weather we forecast light snow and low-density cloud cover in higher elevations All those on the line we can confirm that Santa is airborne at this time He is currently descending to 10,000 feet at a speed of 250 knots Based on flight plans filed with the FAA and NAV Canada. We can confirm. This is not a threat to North America It's not a threat is to stand down stand down. It's not a threat to North America

2:38:30 Give him an escort with the f-16 boys. I big red ones track from the North Pole Yes, sir our DSP satellites use infrared sensors to detect heat from missile and booster plumes in 1995 technological advancements were made to ground-based radar systems. Hey kids did you hear that promotion? Get that piece of information in there. Hey kids, just so you know. The government's at work. It's well, well spent money. We can track you even if you're traveling at the speed of starlight. Enhance and detection capability of smaller objects like heat generated from Rudolph's nose. Missile, specifically ground-based radar operators. Can you correlate trajectory of Big Red One with what satellite operators are seeing?

2:39:17 Roger, sir. We can confirm our radars are seeing the same sight picture from the ground that satellite operators are seeing from space. As you know, sir, for our real-world mission of missile warning, an effective layer of defense incorporates a wide range of sensors. You're paying attention, children. Just so you know, duck and cover. It's all okay. Detect and track missile threats. Yeah! So our national leaders can make decisions on protecting our two nations. But Santa is most definitely not a threat. Not this year at least. Aegis, are you able to see Big Squid 1 from your position at sea? Roger, sir. We're using our powerful sea-based computers and radar that are normally used to track and guard weapons to destroy enemy targets.

2:40:03 Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? How long does this go on? Another minute. Yeah, but they're telling the children about all the great things that they have to kill people with. It's unbelievable. Ho ho ho homeland. Oh man, that is bad. Meanwhile, tonight we're launching an Atlas V rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base. Tonight? Yep. I wish they'd do it during the day. Well, it's an Atlas V. Is it gonna be, which way is it gonna be headed? Well, I'm gonna read it to you. An Atlas V, which would be five, rocket carrying a national security payload. Could it? What does that even mean?

2:40:50 What is it, like a whole bunch of Snowden documents? A national security payload is scheduled for launch from South Vandenberg Air Force Base late on the evening December 5th. If everything goes according to plan, the rocket will depart Space Launch Complex 3 at 2313 PST during an unspecified launch window, head southward, and carry a classified National Reconnaissance Office payload and several small satellites into orbit. It's going south? Yeah. That sucks. You can't see it then? It was going north, you can see it going over. It's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, they're sending up another piece of crap that costs billions of dollars and it's gonna probably spy on a Chinese satellite spying on us. Yeah, something like that. Or who knows? Could be a guy in it for all you know. I do have a couple last clips before we get out of here. Okay.

2:41:48 I mentioned this in the last show that Amy Goodman should take a job as a speed reader and I got the clip of her speed reading. Imagine it goes like this at the meeting. Yes, if you start to work for us, I know you're going to get paid minimum wage, but we will mention you at the end of the show on every show. We're going to mention your name and then you're going to be on the credit roll. So here's her. This is democracy now that does it for the broadcast democracy now is produced by Mike Burke Renee fells are Martin Irwin Shakespeare Tina Samak off honey, Missy Robbie Karen Dina goes to Amy Littlefield Cassandra was there Messiah Rhodes Sharena Nadir a Mike to flip on Miguel Neguerra engineer special Thanks to Becca Staley who Julie Crosby you grand Jessica Lee John Wallach best of the Tarzan to our camera crew John Randolph Karen Crook Meadows. He says I'm Amy Goodman. Thanks so much for joining us. Oh, that's how we should do our donation segment. Isn't that

2:42:41 She's actually good at that. Yeah. Red 33! Red 33! Clip Blitz! Clip Blitz! If you want to play Clip Blitz, here we go. This is the one, this is the last High School USA show. I'm gonna have to set it up. One of the characters went to a party in Amish country where the girls get to do whatever they wanted and they were having sex every which way and they decided the only kind of sex they didn't have is by having a sex change and then having sex again. So the guy's gonna have, the girl that was an Amish girl had the sex change, the guys decided against it. Old widow in my autumn years? That's the worst news of all! That's right Brad, you got Delta winning hand. Don't fold it.

2:43:22 Well, I guess I should go tell her. I sure hope she takes it like the man that she now is. Brad. Miriam! Is that really you? It sure is. Pretty cool, right? Yeah. Now get on in there. I can't wait to take this new hog for a spin. Well, here's the thing, Miriam. I can't go through with this because, how do I say this delicately? I just don't want to. Well, I can't say that under the circumstances I'm not a little disappointed. But I understand. You need to live your boring single-gendered life the way you want to. Wow, you're the coolest guy in the world. Look at you, man. You're a real son of a bitch. Well, I'm off to find a woman to have sex with me. Wish me luck. Oh, you'll find one easy. There are so many sluts out there. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Fox Network.

2:44:14 Meanwhile... The unmanned probe was launched from a military complex at Sichang in southwest China. Officials at Mission Control say all went according to plan. He could be saying, holy crap, that thing's out of control! According to Beijing Aerospace Control Center, Chang'e 3 probe has successfully entered Earth's orbit. Now I announce Changi-3 probe was successfully launched. The Jade Rabbit lander is due to reach the moon and touch down in a fortnight. It's named after a mythical pet belonging to the goddess of the moon and according to state media it will explore the lunar surface and seek out natural resources.

2:45:00 China is only the third nation after the United States and the former USSR to send a mission to land on the Moon. Since beginning its space program a decade ago, China has sent 10 astronauts into space and launched an orbiting module called Tiangong-1. China is also planning a permanent space station by 2020 and eventually to send astronauts to the moon as well. I can't wait until the Chinas land on the moon and there's no flags, no rubble, no nothing. They drop that stuff off in a later mission. China in Egypt the Chinese as we're nobody's paying attention. We're worried sick Mike Rogers is worried sick about Chinese intelligence Meanwhile, they're gonna they're gonna move in on Egypt while we're sitting here with our hands our feet in the air and thumbs in the water Meanwhile, let's shift focus to the Middle East and China special envoy for that region. Wu Sika. He's in Egypt and

2:45:56 and Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Rami, both him and various other Egyptian leaders have exchanged views on China's ties with that country, as well as the Middle East peace process and security in the overall Gulf. CCTV correspondent Adel Al-Mahroui has more from Cairo. Ambassador Wu was keen to spend a few hours in Cairo before he heads to Bahrain for the 9th Manama Dialogue. That's the second visit for China's special envoy on the Middle East this year. At a time Egypt is still undergoing political transition, Wu comes with an assuring message from China.

2:46:36 China supports the efforts of the Egyptian people for developing their country. I expressed congratulations on the constitution to the foreign minister. It's a wise effort and it reflects the will of the Egyptian people. We look forward to the world map reaching its targets. Looking for I thought we were all in there. I thought we had that thing locked down We spend billions a year to be got screwed the Chinese are gonna take it over. Well, then we should stop sending our money well, I think we're going to I think that's the way the Chinese are banking on but if the Chinas get in there then they've got the the what is that the West's who has can now Well, the Chinese tried to buy the Panama Canal. Oh, they're off. Oh

2:47:24 Look, pay part two and you get the kind of summary. China and Egypt have the same foreign policies toward the pressing issues in the Middle East. Both have been working to push forward a two-state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict based on the 1967 borders. They support a political solution for the Syrian crisis. Got it. Whatever you guys want. These guys are the more agreeable of the group. We're not agreeable. We're out. How come we should be able to get financing from these guys? Chinese? Yeah. I think somebody get some money from Putin. We're the only people that have ever given the guy a break Yeah, well, yeah, and that's true. That's true. I have I have one clip that I'd like to play It's a and it's just real. I thought it was very funny if you live in Gitmo nation east in the UK and you like to Twitter or or Be on the Facebook. You have to be very careful. You know how the laws are there, right?

2:48:27 You have to be careful. Yeah, you get thrown in jail for a bad tweet. And the BBC's legal correspondent is happy to explain to you exactly how you can avoid jail time and or a fine when you're tweeting or Facebooking. Pay attention slaves! Here in the BBC social media hub, the journalists who publish on behalf of the BBC are trained in the law. So they understand the law relating to contempt of court, they understand the law relating to libel, defamation. But how much do you understand about that law? Do you realise, for instance, that when you blog or tweet or post on Facebook, what you might regard as a verbal conversation, because it is kind of the modern equivalent of that, is in fact

2:49:10 A publication on all the law, both the civil law of defamation on the one hand and the criminal law relating to contempt of court on the other, applies to that publication in precisely the same way as it would to a book that someone had been working years on or to a newspaper article. Is there precedence for this that I missed somehow? That's been an underlying conversation. I know that but he's now coming out and stating it as fact and when... There have been a number of cases. I mean this goes back 20 years when you know in Germany for example it's illegal to do comparison advertising.

2:49:49 And so people had started doing it in the early days of the internet and I know some people were busted. In Germany it's also illegal to brazenly show the swastika. And so people were busted for that. There's been a lot of kind of things creeping up. But the libel and the slander and that sort of thing is still... Well, it's even better. This is the legal correspondent of the BBC, a government organization, who is saying that when you tweet it is equal to publishing a book. and the same laws adhere. And now there's a minute of it he's going to tell you what to do. Pay attention because you don't want to go to jail, slave. So what do you do if you want to go online and comment about a big criminal case? Well the first thing, if you don't want to get into trouble, is if you know of a big criminal case that's coming up and you don't want to get into trouble, simply don't blog, tweet or post. But if you are going to... Just shut up!

2:50:42 Is he saying, hey, if you know what he's shut up, shut up slave. Do be aware of the danger areas things like commenting about the defendant in a way that might be prejudicial. So for instance, revealing that that person has previous convictions or unpleasant character traits. Unpleasant character. I hope that this show should we should I can never travel to England again. I'm gonna get arrested for this show That's one area that is likely to get you into trouble Commenting about the evidence in a case in a way that might color the jury one way or another color the jury Just be aware that any comment of that type which could be deemed to be prejudicial to the trial Could result in you being preceded against for contempt of court and it could result in you

2:51:26 going to prison now in addition to contempt there are some criminal offenses themselves that relate to publication be aware for instance that it is a criminal offense to name the victim of a sexual offense such victims get lifelong anonymity and if you do that online then you will be preceded against prosecuted that is an offense that's punishable by fine but it has been prosecuted very very recently there you go Just stay off the tweeters people. You don't want to get in trouble on that pathetic note. Well, that's not it's not here We still have freedom of speech. Yeah. No here we have a little more leeway. I know in Canada They don't have much well, isn't that part of the of the Empire the crown? Yes. Yeah Okay, so we will we got to go and thank you Martin JJ who hopefully is still listening and will remember to send me The beginning of the show which was not recorded or so thankful

2:52:28 Common Core on Sunday, there's more to talk about. Tons of interesting emails from y'all. Some Agenda 21 stuff. Please, no more Fast and Furious. No more. I do think we should make mention... We should mention that the gas tank is behind the driver. Yeah, I had a very different car in mind as this was unfolding while we were doing the show. And now that I realize what kind of automobile this was, it's easy to see how you can get into a wreck and blow up. Maybe they had nitrous on board too, I don't know. That's doubtful. I don't know where that one came from. Let me give you the conspiracy theory line now is that because of Paul Walker's charity,

2:53:27 which is a charity for the Philippines typhoon victims. He found out, this is, I swear to God this is the theory, he found out that they were putting medicine or they were putting like abortion stuff into their vaccines and medicine they were shipping over there and he was gonna blow the case wide open so they had to kill him. They had to kill him. You know, if there was anything like that going on, I think we would have discovered it before anyone. But it's like, it's a 33 degree angle, 33 miles from his house. He was 33, he did 33 movies, no 32, 33, it's like all this 33 stuff and it's this rampant, the Illuminati killed him. Well, maybe they did.

2:54:14 You know, but Qui Bono, who benefits from this? The only person benefiting temporarily is Eric Holder for the confusion of the name Fast and Furious. And I... Google bombed. Yes, a Google bomb. And really, the amount of people who are emailing me about this particular case, it's really sad you care so much about an actor. It's just sad. It's sad. At the grand scale of the world, and how people are being squeezed to death worldwide, this is the thing you're most obsessed with? Sad. He was a handsome man though. I'll give you that. I liked him in his role. Yeah, definitely. Alright everybody, please support us for Sunday's show. It'd be nice to feel a little bit more loved.

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