Clouds of Crisis

00:00 Straight from Reseda, here she is! Raven! Give it up! Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Sunday October 20th 2013 time for your Gidmonation Media Assassination episode 558 This is no agenda tweeting more from the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I am actually fogged in. I'm John C DeVore Hey, hey Must be climate change. I cannot see across the street really Mm-hmm Wow is that typical for this time a year? I can't remember

00:45 It comes and goes. There'll be years where you don't even have this thick of fog ever, but we have it. This is actually more traditional. And it's really the San Francisco fog that rolls in over the hills? I remember living in San Francisco! Well this is the massive fog that doesn't Really roll in it just barrels and it takes over the place It's not that cool fog that you oh, that's pretty let me take a picture This is the it's scary fog. Is that I was just comes in just fog Just like a pile of fog isn't like not interesting all right? Sorry well. Not pretty It's just you can see across the street. This is fun brought it up so worst kind of fog John Let me thank you for your courage

01:28 I would like to thank you for your courage. Which means two days of the week. If you look at the calendar, the Sundays are always all the way on the left and the Saturdays are all the way in the right that constitutes an entire week Yes what it looks like on a calendar yeah but that's not the way I think the psychology of it works No no well they but it works so wait a minute So Sunday morning when you wake up go oh it's a glorious new weekend beginning yes! And you know I'm always reminded It's a glorious new week because the president has proclaimed a week

02:19 And this is, well uh... it's two things this week. National Forest Products Week! Yeah that makes nothing but sense Our national forests are essential to our lasting prosperity and who we are as a people. We're chopping them down and making products out of them These natural wonders provide clean air and water for our communities and abundant habitats for wildlife As well as building materials for our homes! And jobs and recreation for workers and families across the country During National Forest Products Week, we celebrate the sustainable uses of America's forests. Burn that shit down! It is also by presidential proclamation National Character Counts week John Every week is character counts week to me

03:14 What are you going to do to make your character count this week? I'm gonna do the no agenda show it's the best of my ability. Let me see if this is according to the president's instructions as Americans we are bound together by a set of ideals put forth by our fathers that We were all created equal that we possess certain unalienable rights, that was in alienable It is inalienable. He said unalienable? Yes, it says unalienable I'm reading it right from the linchpick. Spell check! Right here Isn't that isn't that... Is it inalienable or una- this doesn't feel right No, no its in a- its in alienable Let me look it up Alright but he says UN

03:57 Or, you know whoever wrote the script for him. Well he may have run it through spellcheck I am well unalienable No that's what happened to them Yeah They said UN came up Unalienable is an adjective which means unable to be taken away or given away What is unalienable? Well, that's another question. But the actual... in the Constitution it says inalienable right? That is my understandable! Is that your understandable?! Yeah. Thomas Jefferson meant by unalienable. Unalienable is a word but which one is it? The definition of unalienable well that's a good question I think you brought something up here this quite interesting

04:42 I'm just seeing it myself. Let me see so Constitution in alien a bull, I have to look at after Declaration of Independence right now in the declaration its unalienable rights not inalienable or is it in a I don't know what it Is now says unalienable in the Declaration of Independence? Is that what you got yeah? Unalienable so he's right Where does any Alina come in? I don't know. Oh But we better get some of it anyway as a part of our national character counts week

05:23 We reflect on the ways we support one another, the ways we come together and seek common ground. And the lessons we teach our children about what citizenship means in the United States of America." So here's something you have to read... The definition of unalienable rights is those rights that cannot be surrendered sold or transferred which was the other definition but not according to this The government, for example or another person. Some people refer to these as natural or God-given rights life liberty pursuit of happiness certain inalienable rights such a social security number however are unalienable only because the law prohibits reassigning your number In contrast in alienable rights are those rights that can only be transferred with the consent of the person possessing those rights Oh okay I think this is all inconstitutional

06:13 Whatever the case oh Man, I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah yeah now. I think everyone's really improved their life has been improved by this Well please enjoy your national character count week everybody and I think that's a fine thing to do miss Mickey still ill for those of you who have been She should be better by now well she's better but not like up in it. I mean she's up She actually got up this morning and made pancakes Which I was surprised in the batter. I think she coughed all over it Yeah, so an update for a lot of you is that's a gruesome thought yeah Apparently this was not a flu but looks more like it was West Nile could be yeah And and then you read about because when you say to someone well how's Mickey said? Oh look like she has Wes no oh

07:03 No, it's like a flu. You know it sucks but you don't die for... It's like swine flu! You're not gonna die from it Not if you're reasonably healthy and young But when you say at West Nile people freak out You know, that doesn't surprise me on the one hand. Well no because you know... On the other hand why do they freak out? Because if they just read something they'd realize it's just flu-like symptoms Yeah! That's exactly what it is People are like It'll be 60 to 90 days before your better again It's like What are YOU reading?! And you call the doctor, and the doctor says well... You can come in if you want. No matter if it's flu or West Nile we can't... It's the same thing! The only difference I think is that West Nile you contract through a mosquito bite That's how you get it yeah? Yeah and we're pretty sure that would happen Miss Mickey walks outside mosquitoes go hey brunch

08:01 I love jumping on her so and she was out. She was outside a lot by taking an excessive amount of vitamin B That will eliminate that With the mosquitoes they hate that really vitamin B is you know there's a lot of them yeah, vitamin B be Complex it just stinks hmm one day if you smell the pill in the pill smells like you know like brewer's yeast. That that's the stuff you want and then mosquitoes apparently don't like that. Oh, okay. That's a lifestyle but it worked for me another tip another life tip here valuable tip from the no agenda show well while we're on that

08:37 So yesterday I had to go to the market by myself. So anyway, just let you know she's... The fever has broken. The fever has broken so Miss Mickey is not waking up every 10 minutes and bathed in sweat. And that's okay but now she's a really deep cough which is starting to come loose It'll still be a couple more days Anyway, so I have to go off to the market myself And I'm really not in the mood because you know we've been up all night Mickey's no she'd been coughing and then yeah, I'm trying to be good little candy striper and try and help her out and do everything. I can And so yeah, so it's already like 1115. I mean I know all the good stuff is gone I know that eggs are gonna be gone, and I walk away from the From the car where parked it? And then there's two

09:31 They were catty corner at the intersection there by the market to street solicitors Is it caddy quarter or kitty corner? I always say caddy corner, but I don't know. I think is another issue Stopped the show no matter Let's talk about this right now Maybe you keep talking out look it up So I don't know if its kitty corner or caddy corner But I saw the other one across the street so I knew I was going to get to perfect my My answer, but I didn't know what they were going to ask and it was a really it was the weirdest question ever You know usually this is you do you? Do you want to support Greenpeace or whatever? One of your statements out. Yeah liberal solicitors yeah So here was the question hey good morning sir. Do you support Planned Parenthood and I found this to be such a weird question because what is the correct answer that

10:28 Do you I mean if I say yes, why are you bothering me if I say no? Does that mean you're going to tell me I should support it or if I am I just gonna say no Well anyway here's what I was so what did you do Adam? I said parents suck. I Just walked on that was it that was your comeback. I thought it kind of worked and Parents suck. No, parents suck! My mom was mean to me Oh that's what I should have said no because my mom was mean to me and i didn't say that one Well kitty corner or catty corners either doesn't make really any difference because it's a corruption of the real word which is cater corner oh my goodness catter corner yes C A T E R huh

11:24 I learned something new. Yeah, this show sounds like it's already gotten off to a good start well the alienable cater corner the whole thing yeah and then i'll do this one and then i'll be done with it this is just your average random joe who had his own story of a solicitation avoidance tactic? I want to drop the story from week ago...I was headed into a store after work to grab something for my wife on the way in I heard a girl with a green pea shirt uh with a Greenpeace shirt on asking someone exiting if the person wanted to save the pandas. Now I'm not great with coming up with snappy comebacks quickly and like to think things through so i went in the store and thought of a perfect comeback something like yes, I love saving pandas their jerky is so tasty! I made my purchase and was so excited when I got to the exit door then the greenpeace girl came up to me and asked if I wanted to save the ocean

12:15 I said, uh...I hate the ocean! And walked off. I was so mad. I wasn't able to use my clever comeback and had to use such a lame comeback. I got home, my wife asked if i wanted dinner and without thinking I said no I hate dinner You gotta be careful with this solicitation avoidance tactic it can creep into your life before you know it Beautiful Thank you for your courage on that So there is a couple reports here. Yeah, we got to play this clip the air is bad We're all going to die Okay The World Health Organization's classed outdoor air pollution as carcinogenic and says urban and industrial air pollutants cause lung cancer And are linked to bladder cancer

13:10 The International Agency for Research on Cancer is a cautious body, not noted for producing reports without hard evidence. Outdoor air pollution is carcinogenic to humans and so we can't do very much to change the air we breathe and were all responsible for it And I think its important to make the point that This really needs collective public health action to solve the problem. The IARC's previously classed as dangerous individual elements or compounds, this is the first time it said the very air we breathe has become in places in every country in the world

13:54 bad for our health. This has got to be an Agenda 21 movement Can somebody show me the data on Los Angeles during its pollution era or London or any place that proves this bullcrap? There's a different ending with the one I believe was on PBS which is clip another cancer report with it slightly different ending which makes a little more sense Okay, hold on International researchers now say air pollution is a more serious cause of cancer than passive cigarette smoke. Cancer Agency of the World Health Organization made that declaration today It's the first time it has classified air pollution in its entirety as causing cancer, even though the risk to individuals is low Yeah Wow That's the point LOW! Ha ha ha... Now that's um

14:51 I saw the story, and didn't do anything with it. To me it was just like... And I'm glad you picked up on that because you saw multiple reports and now that I am looking at it this is one of those things where everyone has basically the same message and that is being propagated. So what is behind this? Who did the survey, John who was that? I can't find out. Oh no it's the World Health Organization but I don't know who within it... It's a WHO so you know corrupt operation yeah but I think your initial impression was correct. It's a climate gate thing. It's agenda 21. There's a lot of agenda 21 stuff to talk about today um but before that let's uh play my climate clip hold on

15:34 It started when a snorkeler came across this 18-foot creature that's likely an example of what ancient mariners called sea serpents. They seem kind of sea monsterish and so it catches a lot of attention, and it's exciting for the scientists too! Normally found only in the deep ocean this oarfish was in just 15 feet of water off Catalina Island Have you seen this thing? This oarfish? Yeah isn't that great?! Oh my god this thing is fantastic to look at! Two days later... What is the point of it!? Well hold on... There's only one point. No, the point of the fish! I mean why would a fish like this exist? It looks like a snack for a shark. There it is! Shark could just bite it right in half. Yeah well...it lives very deep. I think its point is just to scare the bejesus out of us

16:17 That's his whole raison d'être. It looks like a creepy fish and it's big. It's just a lot, it's like if anyone has never seen this you should look it up on the internet. We got in the show notes. That's a trout or giant trout that is got a body that just stretches forever so they get to be 56 feet long Well the thing that I found interesting is you see this thing like holy crap but then it turns out these things do pop up from time to time. In 1996 and then actually in 2010 and where is pertinent to the story, but first we'll

16:53 We'll hear some more of the oh my god, it's crazy from the depths two days later This bizarre looking mammal washed ashore across the channel on venice beach. It's believed to be a rare saber-toothed stenogers beaked whale A saber tooth stenoger what usually found in much colder waters and almost unheard of in southern california But it looked just like a dolphin that had been hit by a propeller Just a dolphin with a bad facelift Manhattan Beach surfers are used to seeing great white sharks, but not this many.

17:32 This is like it's like they get what they went out to the beach and this guy is this guy so stoned. He's like, yeah abnormally high amounts of great white sharks Quantity of great white sharks out here lately So I figured I'd take a stand-up paddleboard out put my GoPro camera on my head, dude I got nothing better than you but I have a gopro on my head and see if I can get some footage ever Checking me out Oh my god, right under the board. Oh! Oh my god. Look at that. It's shaking like a leaf So what's going on here? What could it be John?! What could be goin' on here!? I don't know Adam, what? Let's go get some men on the beach! I'd say something along the lines of...a global climate change The temperature and ocean currents are definitely changing up a bit

18:25 Of course! The temperature's definitely changing up a bit, say our science wizards on the beach. I don't know it sounds scary though especially with the great whites i have four little kids out here and i tell them not to go in the water Are you sure? Did you count them? And now let's throw in some Jaws movie footage. ...shark sighting for Southern Californians is a theory about the oarfish... Okay, are you ready John? Because here's the real answer! There's a Japanese legend that or fish beached themselves to warn of an impending earthquake. In fact dozens of them did just that in Japan about a year before the devastating Fukushima quake and tsunami in 2011. I thought I've never heard that story

19:05 Why dozens of them beached themselves in Japan? It's not in the Wikipedia, but it is now of course a meme everywhere. In 1996 a lot of them showed up That I think isn't the book of knowledge But yeah if you look at 2010 you can find some stories so that would be about a year before end of 2010 I think yeah that would be little more than a year before Fukushima, so Of course, you know it can't be mixed messages. There's a commercial for the camera there was Is there new jaws movie coming out is their new like a Jaws revisited or something? There must be this is probably some movie involved some movie hang up in there Yeah Get a lot of that. Let me see deepwater Part four Jaws revisited now they can't be sound good doesn't sound right. Let me see Jaws movie

20:04 Must be something like that. There's just no other way Jaws 5 Did this already happen jaws 5 I never heard a jaw? I don't remember a job jaws 4 It says here jaws 5 official trailer summer of 2013 now This is my thought maybe didn't already like come out and fail. I don't think so Let's see the trailer yes, it's the trailer Lightning Entertainment Can't even watch that you can watch the trailer is that bad I do but I do like I always like it when they throw in a climate change Meme, that's always fun. Of course You can't it doesn't work that way so yeah You can't have the or fish coming up because it's warmer and the sharks being there cuz Sharks don't like well They're like cold

21:00 I like cold water so you can't have both showing up unless your theory which is the sharks are hungry and that wasn't my theory yeah you said it's a fact it looks like they do he said looks like shark bait oh yeah does doesn't it? Yeah because, like, I think a whole family of sharks could feed on that one fish Do you want to go in like in a line? At a dinner table and they could all take it chunk out of it. Just go right through It'd be great do you want to do more agenda 21 stuff while we're on it she got it yeah, well welcome actually as it turns out Now where is my I had a hmm. I had a document here somewhere I gotta figure out where I put that the this whole war on dudes thing this You know women and girls and women and all this stuff

21:53 As it turns out this is all part of agenda 21, and I didn't realize it until there's one of our producers Maintains the agenda 21 subreddit over there on the reddits all links in the show notes Of course by how they got any show notes calm and he alerted me to chapter 24 of agenda 21 Now both you and I have read a Jenna 21 throughout the ages And it's a bit quite a long read This is one of those things you really want to... No, it's huge! I tried to...I once began to print it out as something like 2500 pages and so I sent a note to the UN asking if there was a...if they sell a copy. Cliff notes? And they don't even do that now. Get on the web! You can't even just print it out as a single giant document It's segmented So you have to keep hitting the next page next

22:49 I mean if you have to do it, you have to print it out literally by hand almost page at a time. It's like impossible So just briefly then chapter 24 global action for women towards sustainable and equitable development so this is really where all of this is coming from an agenda 21 It's a fascinating project by the United Nations There are so many people involved in this and governments, it's hard to explain how it really works but governments essentially fund NGOs non-governmental organizations and they all go and they do these meetings. And there are several of them a year and they're all over the world and this is essentially people who feel that they're going to be doing good for the world and come up with this stuff

23:39 And then that trickles down and eventually through think tanks and the whole system that is the global government, it seeps into legislation into culture. And translates directly into money to make things happen So the basis for action here this is all based on the Nairobi forward-looking strategies for the advancement of women It's like hey where should we do our next meeting? I don't know. Hey, let's go to Nairobi. Nairobi is cool! Let's go there! I've never been to Africa. Let's go to Nairobi." So these forward-looking strategies... And by the way if you're going make a decision like that do it in Cape Town? Yeah, I'm sure they did do it in Cape Town. These strategies emphasize women's participation in national and international ecosystem management and control of environment degradation so putting women in control is the way I read that

24:36 So this is much less about women being discriminated against and more about making women the boss of things. And it's they don't really even sugarcoat it if you read through the document Do that at your leisure. And so we're seeing Hillary Clinton a lot of just We just recently had the watermelon head do the whole The International Day of the Girl, It's all about the women. We heard that the women... If the women had only sat down together this whole Government shutdown would have been resolved in like a couple of hours because Nancy Pelosi is so awesome and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is so awesome And all the women are awesome

25:19 And here's Robert Redford, another... he should be an honorary member of Agenda 21 if he is not already. An honorary woman too by the way! Well I think whatever idea I would have had to make things work just wouldn't have been accepted by this minority faction. No matter what you propose they would go against it because their determination was to destroy this person. That's just the setup so you know that he said he is hating the minority faction, that would be the Tea Party terrorist and now... They wanted if it meant destroying the government anything to keep him from succeeding okay Redford hope for change a new generation and gender crediting female senators like Susan Collins for putting politics aside to get a deal done I think the future should belong more women

26:08 You know, I really and young people. I won't argue with that My mom is spinning over in her grave right now she used to be so in love with Robert Redford I remember as a kid when I was like six my mom would say I'd leave your dad and this whole family for Robert Redford This is why I hate Planned Parenthood his parents parents suck I remember that but now I know that she would say oh what a drip That's exactly the word she would use. Ugh, what a drip! And by the way... Robert Redford not looking good in the face department? What happened?! He's old! No I think- Old men usually grow old gracefully. He's like 90s. Nah he's not 90. I think he had some work done and it's not looking good at all

26:58 Well that wouldn't surprise me. Now, so here we were talking about it was kind of mentioned in the newsletter where maybe discuss a little bit he's 77 pretty old but there are lot of these guys have It had work done and there's certain kind of work that creates this, the face that was noticeable to me. Because we had one of our producers who went back and forth with it he was noticing Hillary having a certain type Weird lines. Yeah, that's what you get when you have a little nip tuck done well She's getting these do what I call it this there's a line that you see William F Buckley had it and so did Gore Vidal Which is you got a cheek? That's kind of puffy And you can have like a horizontal line across the bottom of the cheek when you smile You get this line that goes straight out yeah That is weird looking because it's like from skin that was stretched in some wrong way

27:56 I think it's possible that she not only had a facelift and she may be using Botox, although i saw her eyebrows go up and down in the clip the guy sent us. Yeah that's not going to be Botox then? Yeah but she definitely has had some work done we've already determined this And let me just remind everybody that it may not be good. No, well it's never good Let me remind everybody that we predicted that she would do this before even considering a run for 2016 That she would have work done and make sure... Yeah and we actually called when she had it done She all of a sudden disappeared. Yeah, well she had you know she fell down she fainted she hit her head and then you know she's at the plastic eye surgery doctor coming out there with huge glasses on Come on! Yes so she has some work done on her eyes but she also has some little nip and tuck somewhere because the whole mindset are unnatural The whole I think she had

28:57 The little neck job under the chin. Anyway, it's irrelevant because good for her and quite honestly when she is president of the United States I want her to be tight And i'm praying for her to become president Because of this very conversation Um and-and I have...I know many women who say that I think To a certain degree my own wife Says well, you know than a certain degree. I'm she's all in come on. She's listening be honest with yourself Yeah, she feels that you know that mothers will never send their children to war what what Okay, so anyway, so there's a new movie out it's a documentary and when you look at this thing

29:49 Now, here's the... I don't know if there is any bad or any good really but this is produced by... The big marquee name is Sharon Stone. And and she produced it. Yes with a couple other people and these are no slouches the people who are involved in this documentary I can't find any like crazy UN funding or anything like that. I just haven't been able to find it I think that you know, she she and her cronies here probably Really did produce it and they and that's the scary part is they really really really? Really really believe in women

30:30 Being in charge of the being the boss of us and making the world a better place here is a quick This just one of these crazy sound bites just to give you an idea of how confused she is Thinking of it in terms of a feminine identity versus a masculine identity, but I think that's just a hinge to how we're going to think as we shift forward into our graceful identity of thinking of ourselves as beings. Okay, so clearly insane! Tell me what she just said there I have no idea here's the trailer for the movie Femme

31:13 It's never been a better time to be a woman. It's her new birth and in this birth... And by the way, the women you're hearing here are all super famous like Gloria Steinem and there's a couple others I want to highlight see if you can identify any of them? I won't be able to buy their voice it's hard. I could guess who might be... Women are becoming the primal power person la próxima revolución probablemente venga de las mujeres de la pasión por vivir. Any woman who knows how to run a household knows how to run the world What? Just want make sure you heard it right any woman that knows how to run a household Knows how to run a world

31:56 And I'd like you to put you in this rocket ship and take it to a world that you can run. Men cannot heal the patriarchy, but women and men together Could what a real man does he stokes the flame of the feminine? He stokes the radiance of the feminine. He lets her be everything She can't beat and she is the power source princess Yeah, do you hear this is like the princess the man has to stoke the fire in the woman and by the way In the times of... Yeah, I got some stoking for you here babe. In the times of Cleopatra that's how it was and and I'm not saying... Everyone wants to resort this is like this is the kind of harken back phenomenon that we've seen with the emergence of the Islamists and their desire to have the old caliphate back because things were so much better then and this would be the same thing with these women and I think you nailed it Cleopatra is probably

32:58 Oh in fact, oh I'm glad you mentioned that. Here is Sharon Stone along with... Now this is a very interesting woman who I'd never heard of Mary Ann Williamson? Never heard of her. Okay Mary Ann Williamson she actually had her domain name is maryann.com I'm like okay bitch got some dough what's she doing? She writes these books That she's very successful in about and she's hot and she's single so she writes about Sex and swinging and whatever and being a better woman and being a powerful woman And there's really no Information on well, she said a lot of work done. She's 61. She looks like she's 30 yet. She looks hot I

33:44 Well, but it's but it's unclear. I did find one when she's grimacing well I just find one article which I'll read from in a second before you're in Houston Texas That's where she's from here is here She is with Sharon with Piers Morgan But I had to clip this because this what you just said about Margaret Thatcher comes up at the end of this clip. I think that when we look at how well Miss Clinton did her role... I love this, how Miss Clinton did her role! This is coming from an actress by the way. That's exactly what it is you're just doing a roll

34:23 is doing a role for your banker overlords. Wow! And how successfully she moved nation to nation I think we can see... She had a plane! I know, it's a big one too We look at women It's funny when i was making this clip I knew you were going to say that in these um inner relationships country to country how successful that can be. Marianne, would it be different for America as this great world superpower still if Hillary Clinton became president in 2016? As she may well. Well when it comes to her support of women and children, her talk about economic empowerment of women educating children particularly girls around the world obviously she's standing for a feminine perspective but

35:09 With Mrs. Clinton, as well as with other women you were talking about world leaders, Mrs. Thatcher not every woman just because she's a woman is an anti-corporatist or an anti supporter of the military industrial complex it takes more than just the female body to really stand for feminine values I have to say that I heard that and was like okay Wow Okay, well she just once you just put this woman be honest with herself and say Thatcher. She was a conservative She was a conservative and they aren't women there's no such thing as a woman conservative she had a penis I'm telling ya Yeah, she had a... yeah. That's what the liberals in Britain said! I'm not sure what bathroom she goes into. So this movie features this documentary Maria Bello, Maria Conchito Alonso Gloria Steinem, Gene Houston Mariana Williams whom you just heard Nobel Peace Laureates Shirin Ebadi and Mariette McGuire and over 100 experts from around the world if you look at who the other producers are

36:10 So there's Amanda Estremera. She's a producer, I think Andrea Barron... Is it Andrea Barron? Hold on a second. I think that's the one. Andrea Barron yes! No wait no that's not the one she's also a producer here's the one i was looking for then we have Barbara Lazaroff and Celeste Yarin. One of these women is like the co-founder of Spagoes

36:47 The restaurant with Wolfgang Puck. This is money, yeah Barbara Lazaroff that's her Spago co-founder So these women and they're all like you know milfy kind of uh They've all had a lot of work done Well they've had work I mean and Sharon Stone just she looks phenomenal regardless Uh now isn't isn't she insane who was it was married to her that we know? Was that Hurst No, no she was married to Hearst's editor. Phil Bronstein. Right! Bronstein wooed her and got married... You and I we had a meeting with Bronstein don't you remember? Yes we did of course i do And didn't I bring it up like hey how's that insane wife of yours or did he bring it up? You didn't say that Let's be honest about it. I don't know okay I remember him saying she was insane and drunk

37:37 She? I think that's what he said. They had split up at that point Yeah, yeah they had and i know And i know that you know i was doing something once with Hurst and we were trying to get Bronstein it was like to watch a Superbowl or something and apparently Bronstein couldn't do anything without Sharon Stone's publicist giving him the okay Because the ruin is her career and that was all that counted. So he couldn't go out with the guys, He couldn't do this He couldn't do that. He couldn't be seen driving this sort of car And so his whole life was just like...and she was apparently just you know She wouldn't have kids, so drunk! Well there was that issue she liked to drink but The guy said one of the restaurants that I go to

38:24 They like to go to said they were always on pins and needles at the restaurant for one thing She would always demand to come into the restaurant just with even though it's a heavily reserved place Demanded table get it. So they had to find a way to guarantee, you know what she's Sharon Stone You know, just the kind of... this is what we're dealing with. I remember that very... they feel privileged, they feel benighted and not in a good way like other knights. Benighted! She was beaver-knighted is what she was And she uh and this is the person who's now telling people how to live their lives Well no better is that men

39:03 Men specifically need to... What was it? Be the... They need to be roasting, no sparking their women. What was it? Be... Oh let's listen to it again here it is. Be everything she can be and she is the power. Stoking. Stoking well lemme just check here And she is the power Need it to the back a little bit further. Okay, here we go Men cannot heal the patriarchy but women and men together could What a real man does he stokes the flame of the feminine ah a real man A real man Stokes the flame of the feminine matriarch. He stokes the radiance of the feminine he stokes the radiance Let's her be I'm stoking you everything she can't be honey get down here right now. I feel like stoking She is the power source of the universe new tools and new vocabulary

39:59 allowing space for emotions and communication, and also supporting young women in finding their voice and speaking their truth. If men raise children as much as women do that awakens in man the nurturing that is in all human beings You know I find this very offensive this part It's very offensive now let me give you one of my favorite little things I saw in Berkeley So there's going up the street, there are these two women obviously lesbians but they're friends of some sort and a boyfriend or the husband of one of them was coming up the rear with a baby on his back. He's hell, he just hell! And a baby in the front yeah two babies they're walking ahead of him as he's wandering but he is the mule behind them with the 2 babies and these women are yacking to each other and they both look like a couple real weirdos not that make fun of anyone who has that persuasion but this beast...but they were looked like a couple it actually look at a couple assholes and this guy looks like a complete

41:03 Loser and this is the future that they're trying to get us to do here. Yes, yes I mean when i saw that i said oh why betcha there's plenty of people who think thats a good idea Your future as a bearded mule That's a bearded pack mule And he was bearded! Thats a good point It allows boys and girls to see that men can be as loving and nurturing. It's been so imbalanced... By the way, men are is loving in nurturing it's just not shown in popular culture this is real bullshit but by the way I'm not against this documentary for these very reasons In the role of leadership that the masculine has all the way up here even with a lot of women politicians

41:42 Suddenly the feminine is beginning to rise. What leadership is calling for now, Is a whole integrated individual that comes from the heart and soul and knows... This is transgenderism I guess! A whole integrated individual It's better for our society than what we've been doing so far We want to help transform the world because otherwise the children won't survive Otherwise our biosphere will collapse Population control issues lady the biosphere is going to collapse The children we got to think of the children I Was trying to insert it, but then you know of course those great things never work when you don't plan there we go

42:33 by the archetype of the Titanic because we're on it. We are headed to the iceberg so what we have... We're headed to the iceberg! ...to do is turn around the Titanic... That was global warming, now it's an iceberg! ...in time. We have to turn around and we have to turn around now We have to take back our power and say no to war. It's all about remembering peace and love. Women are the growing edge of our species right now, they are going to fix the world! Someone gets shared another drink? Women are going to fix the world okay...

43:22 I am not against this. In fact, I'm all for it... Uhh..I support it! I-I really hope it works out. I'm skeptical at best I think it's a crock of crap. And I probably couldn't get through that movie. Sharon Stone actually left Phil Bronstein because the friend told me, who knew them both very well said she didn't want to get outed as a bad mom so she moved back to LA where she could blend in As a bad mom? Yeah, as a bad mom is fine down there cause you don't have all these local snoops. I'm going to watch this tonight with Ms. Mickey

44:00 It's available now on the... If you can get through the whole thing. Oh, if I can get through... Of course Miss Mick will probably stab you when it's over. Keep your knives away from her! If I can get through... Louse man! Stoke me! In fact, I feel... Would you put your balls off for me if I asked you to? Yes of course honey. I feel that we should start a new service The Curry Dvorak Consulting and Stoking Company Just give us a call we'll come over and- I'm stoked! We'll come over and- I'll come over and stoke you. I support this wholeheartedly. I want Hillary to be president, and women to run everything... And I will be! I will enslave myself! It'll be like Janet Napolitano running everything! Well before we get to that John because uh... We do have stuff to talk about in that area as well i need to say In the morning to you John C. Abourek! Good mornin' to you Adam Curry! In the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights

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47:14 Alright, David Julian in Morgan Hill $333.33 Blue fire hydrant? There he is again! Please read the note I mailed to JCD for an explanation Also knighting ceremony needed this time around No knighting ceremony, I plan to get knighted along with my brother soon Oh, he wants to have a bro-knightage Yeah it's a combo Bro united and it feels so good Hey John, he writes I wish, uh...I saw your email and asked what this was all about. Yeah! This code! I recently brought up the 33 meme in conversation someone suggested that if a code like that existed everyone would know about it my rebuttal what are the blue reflective pucks in the road for?

48:03 They're code, markers whatever and they're everywhere here in the states. They are just not there for aesthetics And not everybody knows what they mean at all Years ago I was curious and did some No Agenda inspired research aka reading the source material put out by the government and discovered they marked the existence of a fire hydrant Now I can't stop noticing them and it's turned into a game where i try to spot the hydrant. When I do, I think no agenda! And hope others will too. This isn't a grand conspiracy to fool the public fire hydrants are a bit benign but I think it proves my point there are lots of messages out there they're just not always for you." You know the shoes on the electricity lines?

48:55 Shoes? Have you ever seen that? Yeah, yeah. You know what those are for? Yeah to embarrass some kid who's shoe you threw up No! No man that marks the drug dealer place It does? Yeah Green shoes...you can guess what is being sold there White shoes I saw a pair of Texas diamond sparkly boots the other day Like whatever drugs they're selling it's Garube Yeah, that marks the drug dealers. Either the corner which is not you know they don't sell them on the corner in Austin. I did not know that! Yeah see? Well now i'm looking for the blue little markers yeah i'll be looking for those on the flash on those little reflectors so here's how it works when you see the blue reflector

49:43 No agenda. When you see the shoes over the wires, you think no agenda dude I want to get high oh i'm sorry no agenda no agenda exactly well thank you David now we know again little tidbits that you pick up on this show nobody else even talks about which and they're useful throughout your entire adult life and make great cocktail party conversation If you want to be the guy at the cocktail party with these sorts of stories. However, did you know? No no no no no ease into it at the cocktail party You know don't just go hey blue dots mean fire hydrant! This is not how you do it

50:27 So anyway, so we still don't know what the 33 is. No Matthew Dupuis in Lufkin Texas What if they make the measuring stuff at Lufkin Texas? This is Lufkin's one of the major I'll tell you another little tidbit All the you know If you have a tape measure Lufkin makes one of them Stanley makes another one craftsman makes there's a bunch of companies and You have to, if you're running a factory you have to standardize on one brand because if you have any of these you can do this trick for yourself. If you try this yourself get any good long measuring tape it doesn't even have to be that long but usually the 150 footers prove the point best and pull them all out they're all off by good foot really? A full-foot? The 150's are!

51:15 So you have to standardize on one or the other and then all your stuff is the same. Otherwise, if you got one guy measuring with a Lufkin and another guy measuring with a Stanley, you don't have the same measurements anyway. I wonder if this is the headquarters? They certainly do have an office in Lufkin Texas. I would hope! So Matthew Dupuis, 213.33 from Lufkin, hi everybody here's $33 and 33 cents for all of the 64 episodes of The Best Podcast or each of the 64 episodes of The Best Podcast in Universe I've heard thus far rounded up to 33 cents for Mac & Cheese Fund Nice! I'm responding to your pleas for donations during the summer dog days you provided numerous hours of side-splitting entertainment

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55:21 Oh, they're using our value for value? Yeah. There's like isn't this valuable to you? Oh yeah valuable to you and then I'm like think about what would life be like without us. Yeah no imagine you woke up one day turn on the radio and there was just no NPR! And iIm like Valhalla but no it's like...and I'm not talking about some DJ who just forgot to put on a song. I swear to god this is the pitch I heard No, this is what will happen if you don't support NPR. No it won't! And this thing about most of our money comes from listeners like you? Bullshit I can read numbers...I can read your numbers This isn't just not true It's also not mainly from the government IT IS FROM ADVERTISING Yeah, now the goverment gives them very little

56:09 It's like even though that counts it is enough that they bitch and moan if they're gonna get cut off. Well, that was enough for their new building what the what they got from the government Yeah, yeah the building making about a hundred million a year or something like that That's more is like 200 million from the government It's ridiculous how much money they got. Sometimes they do say it properly and they say, um... it's from small... it's from listeners like you and local small business. Well yeah if you want to call Dell local small business okay Yeah its local to us Burlington Northern And by the way I'm okay with that! I enjoy hearing because there are a lot of things I wouldn't know about happening in Austin If they didn't advertise on NPR but don't

56:52 Don't pretend like it's just underwriting and like you would say oh this play sucks balls And you won't because they're at the Zack theater or whatever that is advertising so your compromised Come by the way come by the way. I look we got a did I tell you that? We're gonna go to the Sandra Bernhard show Oh, she still works yeah, and so she's cut So I read in The Austin Chronicle She has two shows one night only on the 22nd of October Which I think is a Tuesday or Wednesday and And and Mickey loves her she thinks she's really funny, and she's in great actors which I agree with and I've met Her once or twice, and I found her to be strangely attractive Yeah in a weird kind of like. No no just strangely attractive and so also I booked the 930 show and I got us VIP tickets John So that we can have a glass of champagne with Sandra after the show oh

57:51 This is like, I love this. That should be good for a while yeah and then i get a call uh yeah due to the overwhelming demand for the seven o'clock show we've decided to do one show only and cancel the 9 30. I'm like how insulting are you right now? Like you're telling me because the seven o'clock show is so there's so much demand for that you're cancelling the nine thirty That makes no sense. Well that makes nothing but sense to me! Packing them in so we're gonna do less Yeah, so like okay Well, I guess we'll do-I had wanted to have dinner but yeah we'll do the 7 o'clock show. Do i still get the VIP seats? Well you're two rows back and like well okay...do we still get the champagne with Sandra Bernard But anyway so they will not talk bad about her maybe after the show but while the ads are running on NPR which they are!

58:46 It's a commercial outfit people. Here is proof, where is it? Okay move on to money How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession and what about foundation grants Two different stories. Underwriting is down, it's down for everybody I mean this is the area that is most down for us is in sponsorship underwriting advertising call it whatever you want There you go call it whatever you want Anyway, hopefully we can pick her up and take her home and party with her. There you go! Yeah it would be nice wouldn't it? I actually met her myself... I'm sorry what? So I met her on a plane and were both sitting next to each other essentially And then we chatted awhile She seemed like a pleasant enough person but I was kind of baffled when she said she was going to Ottawa When I travel especially if I am going some place like Ottawa or anywhere It's kinda anywhere actually I always do this

59:48 I never take a car, always rent the car because it's more fun. You can drive around you could stop at hamburger places you can do all kinds of things you can mingle with the public but no she had a limo And it was like for some, she was doing a performance there and they gave her car. I'm always offered cars when i give a speech someplace and I always refuse them! I say it's too expensive...I can't trust these guys you know? They put you in the back they lock you and they roll up the thing again some back of some limo with darkened windows You feel like your prisoner It just makes no sense to me By the way I'd like to point out that VIP tickets is a difference between $25 and 45 dollars

1:00:26 20 bucks to have a glass of champagne. Yeah, they'll be worth it. We'll collect cards when you're the back room It's not it's they got a bit on a back room well who knows where it's being done You know what? It's not worth it. You could've crashed it for free oh I'm not I'm not a crasher No anyway What was my point yeah my point was Hit him in the mouth just play the thing. That's what I was trying to do that you interrupted me That's what I want to do. I said go on propagate the formula Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth Kid got mangled there anyway, sorry kid Anyway, so women are gonna women are gonna save the world and we need they just need a little stoking And I'm excited about all that yeah

1:01:35 Just think that's just a dead end. I don't know what these people are trying to prove well It's part of the genesis yourself it's part of agenda 21 is not going to stop it is going to continue and is only going to get worse And it just it's it's going to be a part of life, and I'm saying right now. I'm all in yeah You would be um it's long game for me But I'm all-in so uh we've since the show since the show has has a theme every time we do a show. This one is picking up little tidbits of knowledge Yes I've got one here that was kind of surprising to me, and it's got a tidbit of knowledge in it It's the Brazil sugar fire story Have you heard this? No, I have not And a fire in Brazil's largest port has burned some 180 thousand tons of raw sugar and pushed international prices to a 1-year high

1:02:34 Four people were injured in the blaze, which erupted in warehouses owned by Copper Sucar, the world's largest sugar trader. The authorities in the port of Santos said it took six hours to bring the fire under control. Brazil is the world's main sugar exporter accounting for nearly half of international sales Did you know that? No, I didn't. Brazil accounts for half of international sugar sales. Doesn't surprise me! It doesn't surprise me and they also make fuel from the sugar... From the sugar yeah That uh they use in their cars Well i'm glad that we screwed up the relationship with Brazil Which we did Yeah and then we firebombed their place She didn't show up I was like hey guys, how's your sugar doing? Possible

1:03:21 That wouldn't surprise me. There's another fire going on, the one in Australia of course this is a yearly story. This is interesting I'm not... Here what's interesting about it there are two clips yeah one is fire in Australia the PBS report and then that then I want you to play the France Van Ket report and tell me if you can spot a slight difference in the stories reporting. Okay here we go that's the first one is Let me make sure we've got it. The first one is PBS Australia unseasonably hot temperatures combined with strong winds to fan the flames of nearly 100 wildfires and 36 of the fires in New South Wales, the most populous state in the country were burning out of control smoke plumes stretched for miles and even cast an orange haze over downtown Sydney conditions are still too intense to get an accurate number

1:04:23 of how many homes have been destroyed. Okay, we've heard this part. You heard that now you'd think... Now when you hear the second report is a little factoid kind of comes to the surface actually right off the bat that was completely left out of the U.S reporting and I can't imagine why? Can i guess ahead of time what it is yeah that this is not abnormal for this time of year? No. In Australia, the country's military says it's investigating whether major bushfires are linked to an explosives training exercise on its land. Firefighters have been battling a series of major wildfires in New South Wales with fears that hundreds of homes have been destroyed The blazes are continuing to burn on the outskirts of Sydney despite the easing up temperatures and winds Alex Parry updated us a little earlier from the capital

1:05:12 The Australian Defence Force has admitted that it was conducting military explosives training on Wednesday when the fire started. Now, in question on how serious the link is between the two incidents, the Defence Force says its focus right now is on survivors and helping them Yeah, by the way hold on a second I'm gonna give it to you because this...I was looking for something like this wasn't unsuccessful in finding and you got it so here's your clip of the day. Absolutely! Heaven forbid that we blame the military for anything yeah cuz what I know is that bushfires around this time of year are

1:05:55 are not, or brush fires as you say, are not all that uncommon in Australia. But what is uncommon is for it to be around Sydney because last year the big fires were all... they were like Melbourne which is not next door! It's not like New York and DC So I was wondering why is it happening there? And here it is. The military essentially set something off, shit caught on fire... Why are they doing this during the fire seasons?! They're idiots!

1:06:32 No, we're not gonna cover that because as you know and especially in this country the military is awesome is Awesome. And it's totally awesome and always will be awesome can't we can't talk against that? no, but we have these kinds of stories We had it we had it let in the last show with them The poor guy who got his national his Medal of Honor But they were trying to the military was trying to screw the guy right and there's a story That's emerging in France on the Somali pirates I got this off of Vancat too. And this is a story where there's little military oops involved in the story, where they've just found these pirates guilty of piracy and some poor guy who owned a yacht

1:07:12 And staying in France, a court here has sentenced three Somali pirates to nine years each in prison. Friday's result follows the April 2009 hijacking of a French yacht that led to the death of its skipper The three pirates had asked for leniency saying they were forced into piracy because of poverty French special forces stormed the sailboat off the coast of Somalia In a bid to free Florent Lemasson his wife their 3 year old son and two crew members They killed two pirates but also accidentally shot dead Le Mersant during the operation. Oh, dude! I'm so sorry How do you shoot the captain dead? He looked black

1:07:51 It wasn't black, it was a white French guy. Oops! Oh man that's bad That's really bad well that's like the story that is going around I haven't there is no clip for but apparently some cops are going past some guys house and one of them decided to smell like meth was being boiled in there So let's go blow it up? So they ran in their shot at the place and killed some 80 year old guy Some ol' fart And there was no meth in there The guy just stunk Yeah, well this kind of thing. You know well it's all part of... It's all where we're headed! It wouldn't happen if women were in control That's right if women ran the show then none of this would be taking place No And by the way can we cross-stoke? If women are in control Cross stoke?! Yeah like my woman I think that's allowed Like my woman can allow me to go and... She could stoke you Can I go stoke some other woman if she needs it

1:08:52 You want to go randomly stoke somebody? No, I'm just saying that if real men stoke other women to bring them to their true potential You know, there's not enough real men out there John. I think you and I certainly qualify as a real man Yeah! We're going to be in high demand yeah this is called bigamy Bigamy? I think we should become Mormons first because some justification for this They probably have some tips Y'all bet they do No wonder they are doing well those Mormons All the dudes are stoking the women

1:09:30 The president had a new one today, which normally when he throws out one of these little... What have we had recently? We've had Common Sense has been a big one. You know these little catchphrases that they come up with? Oh yeah you know what he's got! He's got it just right. We should put an e-book together with his catch phrases. And there is a new one in that he has in this new podcast the Heil Everybody podcast and I wouldn't have clipped I had to clip both instances because he used it twice and he actually messed up the second one which means he's struggling with it but its a doozy and you'll be hearing about more often as of course, he needs to spike the ball a little bit about solving the world problems. Hi everybody!

1:10:18 This week, because Democrats and responsible Republicans came together. Responsible... I love this! The government was- Yeah what a gem. This is the guy who's supposed to be bringing these parties together that's the way he does it. Hey hey. Little needling constantly Just a little bit. Default was removed from our economy there has been a lot of discussion lately of the politics of this shutdown but the truth is there were no winners in this This was also a meme by the way, the no winners and... No winners. At a time when our economy needs more growth and more jobs The manufactured crisis of these last few weeks actually harmed jobs and growth Now manufactured crisis is something he's used before Yeah, he uses that alot And by the way, manufactured crisis doesn't mean it was just republicans who were doing it

1:11:07 It's all manufactured crisis and everyone in government is complicit. And it's understandable that your frustration with what goes on in Washington has never been higher The way business is done in Washington has to change now that these clouds of crisis and uncertainty... The clouds of crisis, John? Clouds of crisis and uncertainty have lifted We need to focus on what the majority of Americans sent us here to do grow the economy, create good jobs, strengthen the middle class lay the foundation for broad-based prosperity and get our fiscal house in order for long haul. No I thought we sent you there to protect us isn't that his job one? It was he's changed it. Well here is that clouds of crisis

1:11:53 Again, except now he messes it up. We won't suddenly agree on everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed Now it's the cloud now is just one Just one cloud a cloud It's a cloud of crisis Everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed The Cloud of Christians hold back on places where we do agree Did this someone there going for like a Nobel Laureate position or something? You know sir Pulitzer Prize the cloud of crisis. I mean, I'm an illiterate You know, I really love that alliteration Yeah, I'm illiterate But I like alliteration

1:12:31 But clouds of crisis, is that the best you can come up with? It's pretty lame. It should be clowns of crisis! Now I think I have another clip where he maybe drops it in again No... This was kind of a long clip which explains the reopening. I have two reopening government clips And this is the one that's got Obama going off on. This, this one I thought was...this is similar in fact that thing it I thought It was the same one because I was waiting for some of the Zingers that were in this one to show up in your clip But I think that clip that you played the first one. I think it was edited

1:13:08 It's all edited. His podcast, he can't do a single five-minute podcast Everything is edited with this guy This wasn't from the podcast this was from one of his standups From one of his theater shows? Yeah play this reopening the government with the Obama kicker By the way I didn't bring enough muffins I brought muffin Tens of thousands of federal employees were back on the job after last night's agreement Elsewhere other signs of things returning to normal In the nation's capital, popular tourist sites reopened. The National Zoo's beloved panda cam came back online although the zoo remained closed until tomorrow

1:13:48 The Senate's Ohio clock resumed ticking, its timekeeper no longer furloughed. And national park sites across the country from the Great Smoky Mountains to Alcatraz Island welcomed back visitors But at the White House President Obama said despite the late-night congressional action Americans were completely fed up with dysfunction in Washington He called on lawmakers to put aside partisan differences and work together for the good of the country Now that the government has reopened and this threat to our economy is removed, all of us need to stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers and the talking heads on radio. And the professional activists who profit from conflict and focus on what the majority of Americans sent us here to do." I didn't hear anyone say podcasters in there we dodged the bullet. Dodge the bullet on that one John! Bloggers? Oh don't say podcasters, don't say podcasts, don't say po-

1:14:46 And did you notice that they really this is on bloggers? Oh, he invited a couple bloggers to have an off the off-the-record conversation Yeah, well there was no for that. No if they went for it of course at the whores John if the president If the president invited you and I to come and have an off-the-record talk I'm like send Air Force One bitch. I'm on my way You know I'd be...I'll fly... I refuse to go. ...I would fly out with Air Force One to pick you up, i'd even fly the other direction just so we could party on the plane! Yeah well they're not sending Air Force One out for us anytime soon. Listen if the president seriously if the president asked us to come and have an off-the-record meeting I would go wouldn't you go? You'd say no yes I would stand my ground insofar as my ethics are concerned

1:15:38 What do you mean? Just because I am, and I would not go. I would say i'll do it as an embargo but I'm not signing a non-disclosure Oh! I didn't know he had to sign a piece...I wouldn't sign a nondisclosure Well if he just wants to chat about the record I'm sure its gonna be boring so yeah Exactly The only cool thing is we get to hang out I mean, you're not going to learn anything. You think the bloggers went to have a meeting with the president and they learned something stunningly new? No. He just told them to shape up or ship out. Exactly! By the way at the beginning of that clip, you should just play it for three seconds, its Biden walking into the EPA saying, I've got muffins! I've got muffins!

1:16:25 Yeah, you know what what irks me so all this stuff reopens and the clock starts ticking it's like oh I mean how stupid are we but then? The the White House tours resumed and I'm like hold on a second the White House Tours were shut down because of these Equestrian not because of the government shutdown. How did they return apparently they found money somewhere Oh Oh that's interesting. It's bullcrap is what it is! Yes, total bull crap That thing with-that was the tours were shut down remember that all the school kids oh we can't visit the White House because of the sequester and the mean Republicans And now the shutdown was over but not the sequester? The sequester is still the same isn't it

1:17:14 Yeah, just the question is still in play. That was part of the Republicans deal they wanted to keep that thing going Well there you go. They made a point of it yeah so but apparently We're being duped all right So we do have to scrap from The Red Book In the let me see where do we have this I have a jingle for that somewhere well maybe not sometimes I'm convinced someone comes into my studio and rearranges stuff Wonder who that might be No idea all right here it is though. This is from the shadow puppet theater department this is Jay Johnson now taking over the Department of Homeland Security incorrect as I was told by our people on the inside It was going to be English

1:18:09 But of course, both Inglis and Kaiser Wilhelm Alexander have decided to retire early in a couple of months. So they're going to fade off into the sunset. So Inglis couldn't very well become the head of the Department of Homeland Security I guess the guy from New York... what's the fascist police chief there? Kelly? Kelly so Kelly I guess Kelly has it too good. He's like, I don't want to put a pain in the ass I got an army here. I'm running. I've got like stormtroopers. I've got cameras. I've got computer control rooms It's like I'm not gonna go Go sit at a desk job of on the streets with action baby So Jay Johnson very interesting fellow and I found a clip and I still don't have the channel Al Jazeera America which I'm

1:19:01 I'm still miffed about it because they're doing some good work. Yeah, at the moment they are i agree They brought on a lady who and I liked what you know so they have a lot of pundits everywhere But this one right off the bat just you know says where she's coming from or at least that's in her intro and I really appreciated having that knowledge as she then talked about Jay Johnson. I wanted to just go through this and discuss it with you because i think it really lays out everything about this guy, uh The good and the bad and really where he's coming from which To have him as a head of department of homeland security is frightening Yeah

1:19:37 Go ahead. I'm sorry. I also have a backgrounder on him as a clip, but if you want to play yours Yeah Let's roll through this and let's see if we need more than will play or not looking for this opportunity I had left government at the end of last year and was settling back into private life in private law practice But when I received the call I could not refuse it yeah because for the money Must be great power now This is all about power so that so this guy is going if you've read In this town Which I've talked about incessantly you'll know that this is how you this is how you? Set yourself up to become a hundred millionaire because you just go. He's oh, I'm a lawyer everyone knows I'm Lori got a private practice Oh, I'm gonna go and get some creds give any It'll be in this clip Do you know how how did Janet Napolitano become the head of University California she's never managed an organization like that do you have any idea How many people work at DHS just a guess 100 thousand no it's in this clip But your low

1:20:38 To discuss Johnson's nomination, we turn now to Tara Mahler. She is a research fellow with the New America Foundation and previously worked as an intelligence analyst at the CIA. Tara thanks for being in Well I don't know if she was an intelligence analyst or intelligence analyst but she worked at the CIA And i'm like this is good! Good! That's all you get The only people that show up on television now work for the CIA But at least we know that she's going to be honest because the CIA is not friends with DHS And nor should they be. No, but I like this! Thank you So what kind of a fight do you think he's going to face on Capitol Hill? You know, i don't think he is gonna face that big of a fight He's not that high profile She's pretty good by the way This girl, this Mallor Whatever her name is Prior to this... What's your name? Mallor I think it's Mallor M-A-L-L-E-R Hold on, I'll back it up Mallor Fellow with The New America Foundation and previously worked as an intelligent... Oh hold on ...private law practice Sorry, I'l get his name here When I received the call I could not refuse... I think its something Mallor

1:21:37 To discuss Johnson's nomination, we turn now to Tara Mahler. She is a research fellow with the New America Foundation. and previously worked as an intelligence analyst at the CIA. I got some intelligence here from the CIA! Hey Tara, thanks for being in Thank you So what kind of a fight do you think he's going to face on Capitol Hill? You know i don't think he is gonna face that big of a fight He's not that high profile prior to this In terms of public name recognition And he's not THAT polarizing...and I mean by looking at other people President Obama could have gone with However there has been some criticism He is a big campaign donor This is not unusual $33,000 dollars Hello

1:22:13 Did you notice that number pop up anywhere, John? No I didn't but it's funny. Well first of all thirty- hello! Thirty three thousand dollars?! Forget it being the magic number. Thirty three thousand dollars is just...that's a huge wad. Lots of presidential appointments have given money to the president's campaign in the past including Bush's appointment with Tom Ridge so... Although does raise questions for a lot of Republicans as whether he's qualified for this job Well, Republicans have been out criticizing the campaign donor aspect of the story and there are some questioning credentials. Now Homeland Security is a role that you can tap from a variety of areas whether that be law enforcement whether it be someone with a legal background which in this case Jay Johnson has. It's very interesting The previous few secretaries Chertoff Napolitano and Ridge were all lawyers Did you know that? I didn't know that the other two were lawyers I knew Napolitano

1:23:07 I didn't know Chertoff was. The whole government is lawyers! Yeah, well that's the way it's working But do you know what this guy... What his legal expertise is in? Well tell me The Kill List Oh no, I know that he's the one who approved it. Yeah, Mike Lip has that too. So it's not actually that unusual. But Napolitano at least was a governor and she had a lot of experience with border issues that he does not have. And exactly! I think actually the most credible sort of questioning Listen to the number. Credentials would go to the fact that he does not have immigration experience, most of his work has been in the Pentagon itself as General Counsel under President Obama under Bill Clinton also in the Air Force's general counsel and a long practice in law dealing with security issues like drones and you know questioning about striking US civilians linked to Al Qaeda overseas so... Striking I love that striking

1:24:01 I'm gonna strike you. Oh, you mean kill? He has a history in that area not an immigration and not with management of a 240 thousand person bureaucracy which is... Two hundred forty thousand people! A quarter of a million people! Bigger than Microsoft. A quarter of a million people! Well there ya go Thank y- That's a great analogy Our homeland security is like Windows So this girl, Tara. Yeah She only was with the agency for like two years after and she's like almost I thought she was a military analyst supposedly from 2004 to 2006 when she was just out of before she actually went to school because she went to or she now you know she came out of school she came out at Dartmouth i guess but her claim to fame is that she was an intern for Hillary

1:24:49 That figures. Then she went to the Global Terrorism Risk Assessment Project, ERGO, which we need to look at. Research fellow of the New America Foundation so here we go back into politics and then she shows up and now this is all from LinkedIn now her claim to fame is that she's a guest commentator

1:25:27 on foreign policy and national security multiple networks. She does... This is what she does, yes. Yeah, she's appeared on CNN HuffPost Al Jazeera I like her! Well she's presentable. She has here half the homeland mobilizing women for cyber security is something I found hey Can you look up someone else sure and I think he looked up because I don't want cuz you know You know when you look someone up then they get a that they can see that. You looked at them No, not if you know what you're doing all right well Here's how I do it. I asked you to do it bill Claire CLAI are no e does that name pop-up oh?

1:26:09 I'm just gonna see who is he the principal director of customer service at the aerospace corporation? There's a bunch of Bill Clares, there's like a crapload. CLAIR anything with CIA Uh, well there's a guy that is executive director of the ESRC group. Is he old? Well it doesn't have his age on the rundown you get at the beginning and don't get... I don't see anybody who says CIA. CIA guys usually don't show up on here when they're active No no, he's inactive or at least he wouldn't be like active-active running shooting because he is in his 70s That's all right. I doubt it we can work on him later

1:26:54 Alright a little show for shows the Thursday show. Yeah, believe me Okay just forget I asked about this besides of the Department of Homeland Security You know when you hear him say that he thinks that the war on terror should not this is very interesting now listen Listen to what's being said here the war so he apparently said and I don't have audio or video of it That the war on terror can't last forever Now remember this guy is a lawyer. You hear him say that he thinks the war on terror should not be endless. The War on Terror of Mahler? It's one of the statements he made earlier this week. What do you think he means by that? Yes, he made that statement I believe it was This week but he has made that statement before in speeches He made when he left government to the Oxford Union and at Yale Law School So i think we're going to see him take a big role In terms of whether or not some of these programs might be wrapping down over The next course of few years However... Like what kind of programs do you think he may wrap down

1:27:52 Well, there's a question of sort of... No no no. You were just about to talk over the punch. Hold on. ...you know course in the few years however... What kind of programs do you think he may wrap down? Well there is a question of sort when legal authority for this war has ended and he made statements that... Did you hear that? Yeah, the legal authority There is a question apparently out there about when the legal authority for this war has ended This is not insignificant. Listen to it again. No, and it's probably codified somewhere. Listen to... yeah! Sort of when the legal authority for this war has ended and Okay so apparently the legal authority for this war, The War on Terror Has ended

1:28:36 And I think you're right. It's codified somewhere, and this guy knows it and he needs to figure something out because of the terror that is being pressed upon the citizens of the United States of Gitmo Nation...and it has to stop! But this is not being challenged because we don't know where to look. Try and Google legal authority for the war on terror. Good luck with that google search I tried binging it. No joy either. But i'd like to know, and we have a lot of lawyers out there who listen to the show... Is there something that says the legal authority for the war on terror has ended? To me that was fascinating! So this guy is a trained killer

1:29:31 Because he will determine if you are appropriate to be killed and he will be in charge of 240,000 people many of whom are trained to kill you. How do you feel? I could do without him. Do we want to play your background or just a... Yeah, it's in it's a little different It actually is better than that other clip because she never really gets this This is like package so it's got more always nice and always nicer of the package an attorney in government and private practice Jay Johnson said he could not refuse this opportunity To serve once again. I am a New Yorker

1:30:11 And I was present in Manhattan on 9-11, which happens to be my birthday. When that bright and beautiful... Wow! Step back. ...day was a day something like this was shattered by the largest terrorist attack on our homeland in history. I wandered the streets of New York that day and wondered and asked what can I do? Since then I have tried to devote myself to answering that question. Johnson served as general counsel of the Air Force during the Clinton years, then in private life he became a prominent Democratic fundraiser up through the Obama campaign before returning to the Defense Department

1:30:56 as its top lawyer during the president's first term. As general counsel, he helped shape many of the administration's counterterrorism strategies most notably it's controversial use of drone strikes in countries like Pakistan Yemen and Somalia. He also co-authored the Pentagon's report on gays serving openly in the military that ushered in appeal of the don't ask, don't tell policy in 2010. Shortly before leaving government in December 2012 Johnson spoke at the need to fight terrorism without being on a perpetual wartime footing. I do believe that on the present course there will come a tipping point. A tipping point which so many other leaders and operatives have Al Qaeda and its affiliates have been killed or captured

1:31:51 and the group is no longer able to attempt or launch a strategic attack against the United States. If confirmed by the Senate, Johnson will succeed Janet Napolitano She stepped down in September to lead the University of California system Like his predecessors, Johnson will have his work cut out for him. Taking the helm of a sprawling department home to 22 agencies and still grappling with growing pains more than a decade after it was created Yeah like the complete anti-male behavior The sexual discrimination in the workplace which was Right, the lesbian discrimination against men Which was neatly tucked away Which should be in that movie by the way

1:32:36 Which movie? Oh, Fem. Yeah So let me get this straight so we have an ex banker who is now running the CIA FBI I'm sorry he's the guy that came from HSBC Well that's for a good reason yes well so they can launder the money which is what they're good at then we have Super attorney who determines if people should be killed by drone strike death from the air sky hell He'll be the way what is his name jet JJ J. H yeah, that's annoying too very annoying and I pronounce it just Johnson Johnson from now on he's Johnson Johnson you gotta say Johnson Johnson Johnson And then we have a lawyer running the entire Department of Justice who is A gangster

1:33:33 epic proportion. He is a mafia, and he has a stranglehold on Jamie Dimon for something! God knows what... Now of course more than a week ago we played for you the stunning news direct from The Analyst's Report so you knew about this before it even hit any mainstream news about the $28 billion JP Morgan has reserved for fines and penalties. Friday night he went to go see the copy-to-tutti copy holder

1:34:18 had a sit-down meeting with him and they struck a deal. The towering presence in world banking for JPMorgan Chase was humiliated after revelations it lost billions of pounds because of deals which went disastrously wrong In the run up to the financial crisis many investment banks created sophisticated financial products called mortgage backed securities These special bonds contained a mix investments but at the heart of them were supposed to be home loans which were considered risk-free. JPMorgan is alleged to have sold these mortgage backed assets knowing full well that many of the home loans were very risky Many people believe that these mortgage backed assets played a central role in the near collapse at the banking system when banks realized in 2007 there's a lot of their assets worth a fraction as their official book value

1:35:13 Last month JP Morgan was fined almost a billion dollars in a separate case. One trader was nicknamed the London whale because of the size of his risky bets. Interesting on this is, that London whale... That penalty for that one trade apparently is only 900 million dollars This is nothing compared to the overall number This tentative deal to pay a record fine of 13 billion dollars to the US Justice Department would settle all potential civil actions against the bank but it doesn't mean that criminal cases against individuals are ruled out. Yeah, I'm sure we're going to see all kinds of people go to jail Not! No but its good thing they hang over their heads when you want them do what you want them to do Exactly But thirteen billion dollars

1:36:03 And of this, $4 billion is to settle claims that they lied to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac about the quality of the loans. They sold them... I mean you're saying Lehman is responsible for this financial crisis? No! Looks like these guys just sold to the government bullshit paper, lied about it another four billion in consumer relief that may have been predetermined they've already paid for that or reserved for it five billion in penalties paid by the bank The London Whale really was only a hundred million in America 920 million in the UK and so you just got to ask yourself

1:36:48 They have the, you know... Let's say how much money can they're borrowing this free money literally from the government. They hold on to it I mean just from 1 billion if you borrow a billion from the government and you can hold onto it for a year that's 200 million dollars in profit isn't it? You get 2% on a billion dollars? I don't think they're getting that. Yeah! I think is less Oh I'm sorry one percent gee only 100 million But if you borrow hundreds and hundreds of billions... Yeah, you get some. You make out that's why the banks are so tight with giving money away So but Pete nowhere I mean we can't just let this pass as normal That this bank actually has they have a trillion dollars in assets What? Where did this all come from

1:37:42 Well, you're asking the wrong guy. Yeah I know it's stolen it has to be stolen money can't be anything else Where do you get that money from? I think is all a bookkeepers error yeah Yeah, he's just the big spreadsheet oh here It is there's where the money is right here Assets yeah says it right here And then for, so Jamie Dimon sits down with Holder and Holder says nah nah no we're gonna... if you read this they have an inside uh they have a stooge on the inside apparently some lower level assistant. They found one of her emails and the email was to the muckety-mucks including Dimon apparently saying hey these mortgages they're total shite

1:38:35 And we really shouldn't be selling this and this is not okay, and we're lying. So they have this smoking gun email...and she is now cooperating. Until she winds up dead! Oh no, she's...she may have to testify actually, is what they're talking about so that should be thrilling to see that. They have a whistleblower and this Holder guy he's squeezing the golden boy of Wall Street That's bold man It's bold We'll see. Well, what do you mean? It's definitely worth following. I mean then the only guy who ever writes about this is Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone no one ever writes this in any under and yes i don't think he's written about this yet he will of course uh but no one writes on anything understandable and we just all sit back and go oh whatever oh yeah well it's just JPMorgan. It's pretty hard to deal with! Yeah whatever...it's the same thing with the NSA okay now I'm getting really angry um people

1:39:36 and I'm looking at you, Obots. It is a gross offense for you to make the NSA spying on American citizens a punchline of your joke." And it's happening more and more! And i'm really...I'm calling people on it and I'm not doing- I'm doing it really with an annoyed angered look You know what? So well it's just me, you in the NSA! That is not funny It is not funny, and I'm not going to allow it to happen on my watch. Here's Eleanor Clift the moron who tries to think less and tweet more

1:40:20 using the same NSA as a punchline. The repercussions of the Snowden revelations can continue and the head of the NSA, Army General Keith Alexander is stepping down early next year along with his deputy and the joke in Washington... Now you see that she's already ready to do the joke! And she gets interrupted off script I saw his performance on one hour of television and i thought he was terrific. Well, he's stepping down to spend more time with his family and the joke is he's stepping down to spend more time with this family so he won't be spending it with yours. Shut up!

1:41:09 Yes, discussing that has become commonplace. I'm not allowing it to happen! It's like turning the public into acceptance so you go well yeah they're probably listening in Well if you look at the statistics... was it The New York Times maybe even? That had an article about this no The Observer Public indifference is the real enemy in the NSA affair Yeah I agree And it really is people don't care There's two articles here in the show notes you should definitely look at. What is happening now just in shopping malls and around town with tracking you on your cell phone through your Wi-Fi that's on but your Bluetooth, and what is the new iPhone 5 has these little things? These eye beacons? I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, I don't carry a phone at all as you know

1:42:03 You say hey, you know what I finally fixed it. I got it to work my Google voice to a PRS gateway Oh cool So so I can I'm literally carrying a radio and It will beep when someone has sent me a text message I can read the text message and I can send one back from your radio And the cool thing is You should write this up. No, I am and I mean this is incredibly cool technology How you doing? I'll have it published in the new domain dotnet Yeah, no, but I actually want to publish these scripts these are you know, these are Adam scripts right now It's like Rube Goldberg. Yes, like, you know that the Google Voice hits my Thunderbird Thunderbird triggers a

1:42:52 An email rule the email rule write something to my Hard disk a cron job picks it up and then opens atelnet session. I mean, it's crazy Have to simplify it a bit but what's cool about? It is that you know this APRS. It's a worldwide messaging standard if you know if you have APRS on On your radio then we can text message each other all day long Regardless of internet connectivity. This is what's cool about it So next month on the 13th of November when they do the big blackout drill Yeah, when everything will actually black out and the whole world goes to shit I'll be able to text message my buddies Oh on a PRS yeah APRS is It's a fascinating thing to look at anyway, I digress And then I got this email from

1:43:49 One of our producers who has Bell in California, I guess as his internet provider. And I put this yeah Bell California important notice about how Bell uses information and they are changing now starting November 16th 2013 that's after the big blackout by the way Bell is going to start using the following categories of information, whether you like it or not. Web pages visited from your mobile device or your internet access at home this may include search terms that may have been used location app and device feature usage TV viewing and calling patterns This is your Internet service provider! It's just going to use that whether you like it or not

1:44:32 However, under these new programs we will not share any information that identifies you personally outside of Bell Canada and its affiliates. And how this information is going to be used is to create business and marketing reports for other companies to create business and marketing reports...and here's my favorite When you use the internet on your mobile device, laptop computer or TV you often see unfiltered random ads on websites and within apps. We would like to use certain network usage information and account information to make the ads you see more relevant to YOU!

1:45:13 This is such bull crap. These ads may be from Bell or from third parties, however Bell will not share any of your personal information okay this... They use this let me just stop you because we've talked about this a lot it's big data which I'm now calling big data which is bull crap now it's big and all this is it's I've come to this conclusion and you can go on and finish this with your conclusion but my conclusion relevant nonsense as the real excuse to just spy on you. and lock you into something, some bigger pile of crap. There's no benefit to the user that there is no benefit whatsoever we've known this from our own experiences and everybody out there knows this from your own experience when you go from a website the website you buy a basketball from Amazon in the next thing you know you're being sold another basketball over and over again same basketball You already bought the basketball they don't even know that much because this is bullcrap

1:46:17 Go on, I'm sorry. Well? I think it's worse! Oh, geez. Yes it's worse? How could it be worse?! They actually believe they can give you relevant ads this is the bad part! Is there's an entire team sucking up resources sucking up your money that you're paying to them for which should just be quality network connections and they are actually putting deep packet inspections developed by British Telecom and deployed by British Telecom putting that into place to actually think that they can do this, that they can deliver relevant ads. Now the bottom line big data is big doo-doo it doesn't work it doesn't exist it's not going to happen we are not some uniform collective that you can scan a million of us and say oh when he's scratching his left nut he wants to buy a woolly hat

1:47:15 It just doesn't work that way. In fact, I'm really enjoying email advertising these days! I'm really enjoying it...I'm really getting into it. See, spam is what we used to get like hey click on this link for a good time and then you'd get like a stupid Viagra ad. Now it's like the email advertising is becoming very sophisticated. I think that's why Google is smart Alright, Google... this is why Google said screw it. This email stuff with the pretty pictures and looks great we got to get all under one tab so we can put ads at the top And that's all they know how to do! The whole advertising on the internet? Bullshit It doesn't work Yeah people click on stuff of course search advertising works and that's why all your...the search engines are bogative

1:48:10 It's all geared towards that. But when it comes to knowing who you are, no I'm sorry it doesn't work, it's not gonna work, it never will work, it's a pipe dream! Where is my fridge ordering the milk? One of my favorites yeah and that is only one reason why we don't do advertising on this program The other one... There's another reason and let me explain Which is the clip. This was actually kind of interesting, I didn't know these numbers again part of today's theme and learning little things

1:48:48 Play the clip, PR and the news. The actual act of going out shoe leather journalism is being really isolated there's less and less of it there's less and less resources for it And there was a great Pew study out of Baltimore few years ago that showed that roughly 96% of the news in the town right was still coming off old media sources right but old media was producing 73 percent less news stories than 20 years ago So you've got a lot of churn around this, but not a lot of there there. And people get that Now the great crisis at the moment and this is what we're really scared about is That what we see as old media, traditional media declines As new media struggles because there's no resources to do journalism

1:49:33 What fills the void? It's public relations. In 1980, when Ronald Reagan became president of the United States there was a one-to-one ratio between journalists and PR people Today there is a four to one ratio for PR people for every one journalist Isn't this saying like if you're not pissing someone off with your news it's PR I've never heard that saying but it's probably true Yeah, I thought that...I thought there was some famous person who said that Uh, maybe Well Yes. So, so when it comes... So? So I think we just go into it.

1:50:26 We're going to thank the ones that gave over 50, the rest of them we thank anonymously because that's the idea. Craig Mazzella... Oh yeah you're right! Anonymously I'm sorry what am i thinking? Yes. Craig Mazzella in Norwalk Connecticut came in with $111.11 and he says he figures it was time to donate can I be a boner no longer now remember this 111-11 this is making it rain remember that don't you this number this particular donation amount is making it rain Is that right? Yes. When was that? Well, when we discussed it on the show... No I don't remember this! Well you remember what you talked about making it rain with a whole bunch of hundred dollar bills? Oh oh yeah at a club. Yeah so making it rain has been determined by our producing audience to be $111.11. Oh okay and in fact were supposed to both say

1:51:28 We are? Like the little whores that we are, yeah. Oh... hmmm okay. Well I'm making it rain there! Yes Give it up for Amber! That's what we want to hear. Thank you, that's it John. I figured it was time to donate. Can I be a boner no longer? He says he can't recall what show it was but recently Craig from Norwalk donated and I thought wow my wife donated in my name thats awesome turns out she didn't but she still awesome because she listens to the show as well Sending some ones to make it rain JCD hoping to obtain knighthood in the future can I reserve? Knight of the fifth column because it sounds too damn funny. Yeah, well he needs a de-douching little girl shut up slave to his co-worker Henry for turning me on To this show and perhaps one other clip of Adams choice and thank you both for your courage Oh, I get a clip of Adams choice

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1:55:18 Spot-on spot on do we could be our own ADR outfit? Yeah, good. That is for the mic I Was really good I don't know why you get such a kick out of that. Well, it's okay... It's multi-layered! One, it's perfect Two, it shows that you have experience with this. Just look at the visual of you in a strip joint That's all Yeah, as me as the DJ Making it rain! You know exactly what it is So that's just funny. It's theater of the mind John. It would be ruined if we had cameras on right now Yes, it would

1:56:00 Elizabeth Borazan in Tucson, Arizona came in with our celebratory 6666. And she says this is for our sack of sixes she says hi all boys I thank you for your courage with my next donation there shall be sword play prepare hmm. Oh that means she's gonna become a dame nice Elise Garling 666 Sunnyside New York Sean Pyle hold on I'm sorry to interrupt At least garlings cell is blue. Yeah, there's a meaning behind that yeah she will be it no that's yellow Yes, you're gonna become a dame today our limoncello this should be Dame of the woman yes, right be Dave delicious product dame has a label

1:56:50 Totally illegal. Sean Pyle in Streamwood, Illinois 6666 Thomas Airy Edgewater Park New Jersey Eric Elaine or a LAN And it's from skip into e CWC W always gets through he says I'm sure that's Tom's number to echo India CW always gets through yeah That's Thomas yeah Eric Elaine Elan in Kingsport, Tennessee Abra Abraham Daly and Gotham Maine Thomas Princey princip princip in Raleigh North Carolina Benjamin Rickers in Ames Iowa and Glenn Riccio in Charlottesville Virginia those are our celebratory 6666 any of those notes you need to read I see you've got no it's on off this sometimes he got a note from these checks that came in

1:57:48 Yeah, these are checks when I have a note. The list is short today so we might as well read a note or two Well, I got the one here from Richia John and Adam Here's this sack of sixes in furlough funds since i'm currently something from sinking some... This longhand that can't read Sad to expand my territory said to expand my territory request a peerage upgrade from baronet to Baron So he's, apparently he's a Sir, Sir Riccio and now a Baron somehow. Okay. I assume we put that on the list? We don't have it on the list...

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2:04:51 Celebrating on Monday that will be tomorrow the 21st. Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe And very happy to do this it's nice to have her on board I got your sword there Elise Garland come on Calm down! Kneel before the table as we are very proud to welcome you to the Table of Knights and Dames, and hereby pronounce thee Dame Elise Garling. Dame of the Drink for you We have a bevy of goodness I'm pretty sure you'll like the Rent Boys in Chardonnay or maybe the Hot Pants & Blues Long-Haired Heavy Metal Guys in Scotch Geishas in Sake Vodka Vanilla Mutton In Mead That should do it if not just sparkling cider and esters

2:05:37 Or if you prefer a bong hits and bourbon. And thank you very much not only for your support of the Best Podcasting Universe, your monetary support but also the support you have given us with your drink! Your limoncello has been fabulous quite a hit here with with the families of the show I finally wiped out the maple syrup Oh, that was gone in like two sessions with me. Yeah, well it's because you didn't... You weren't like me! No, that's right I wasn't like you. Thank goodness. No, I saved mine and used it only when I wanted to use it. That's what it is supposed to taste like. No, I couldn't save that. It was too good. Just looking too good. Yeah but actually use on stuff too. You just drank yours. That's weird. No, I didn't just drink mine. You drank it

2:06:25 Uh, you know hey I was watching Erin Burnett the other day. Oh! I haven't watched her for a while She's about ready to give birth Oh Yeah I didn't even know she was married Now she's married some banker dude that she met at- oh that makes sense yeah oh yeah oh yeah she's married to a banker but i was watching and like my first instinct was Hey who has been eating the Cheetos? And then it's like aww wait a minute I see it she is pregnant and I googled it And she's a buzz and the only there was an announcement I guess couple months back, but now it's apparently that she's due in November So she must be ready to pop and she must be ready. Just just suicide herself over her job man Can you believe this is this is not only a report? That is just unbelievably bogative But then it's followed up by an even stupider report This is all Aaron's fault

2:07:19 Henry Kunetsky used to love to fish and wait for crabs, and was doing just that last month near Ormond Beach Florida. But after he got home his wife Patty saw something wrong During the night He woke up there was a small abrasion on his ankle We thought it was a spider bite by morning kunetskiy was in terrible pain And was rushed to the hospital as the infection spread it just ravaged his body so fast. Two days later he died. Can you believe this? What, go on yeah I can believe it. A victim of a flesh-eating bacteria known as Vibrio vulnificus. Vibrio vulnificus which is commonly found in

2:08:00 in warm salt water. Doctors say there are two ways to be infected by it One is from an open sore on the body, typically the legs where you walk out into the warm salty or brackish water baywater and the gulf Infection can also happen by eating tainted uncooked shellfish especially oysters so far this year they have been 32 known infections in Florida and 10 deaths Last year, nine Florida deaths. The year before 13. Oh crap! Aw shoot... The Aaron Burnett piece got cut off. Crap. What happened at the end? That was so interesting. She went into another d- I'm sorry it's ruined fail. I'm sorry just fail fail. Epic Fail. Epic Fail there wow. I've never seen that come- That is terrible. It's ruined the show. Somehow- I was waiting for the punchline. No the clip got cut off uh.. Alright

2:08:54 Well, here's the punchline then a new punch line. A federal air marshal is in big trouble for allegedly taking upskirt photos of female passengers I love this did you see this guy? No he looks anything but like an air marshal he looks like a creep You know what Air Marshal you kind of had this visual of uh of like a burly guy Like just checking just checking shifty eyes, you know He looks like a little nerdy sweaty palmed geek You don't want this guy can save us and he's running away. This whole story, there is something really wrong with it. Police say a passenger saw Adam Bartsch taking photos before a Southwest Airlines flight from Nashville to Tampa took off. Barsch was removed from the plane and now faces criminal charges. Investigators say he admitted to taking similar photos of women at least a dozen times in the past. There goes my subscription to upskirt dot com

2:09:48 Upskirts. What a dumb... That's the dumbest thing ever! This, upskirts is a huge category online It's idiotic! Oh it's like there's like those whole communities around this stuff So I'm reading the Aaron Burnett wiki page? Yeah And guess what's available to us as information Her height Yep Really?! Yeah That's good probably one of our producers put it in I would hope somebody put it in What do you think it is One guess, you get one shot. 5-7. 5-6. That was close She's the youngest daughter of corporate attorney Kenneth King Burnett and Esther Margaret Burnett, née Stewart. She attended St Andrews. She returned to deliver her commencement speech. In Texas?

2:10:42 No, in Middleton Delaware's high school. So then she went to Williams College in Washington. Oh yeah, Williams. Of course. It was where they all studied political science and economics graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Economy Yeah And she played lacrosse and field hockey! Oh, of course! Oh God I wish I could see her back in the day playing field hockey. Running around My favorite sport. I love the outfits. There is something about girls in field hockey outfit that just...ehh I love it I could watch that for hours. I've told you this before, haven't i? This is not... I think you have! It just always stuns me because it's the kind of information I repress or I fail to remember for some reason Why?! It's good information There's something weird about it. Something...I can see there you're drooling with your hands up on the screen thing holding tight Run girls run

2:11:42 Watching the girls run back and forth yelling. Go left! Go left! Push, it's a push! I even know some of the language. So, what it was so... hold on. Yeah one of the things I wanted to do on every show coming as we go along here is at least one form of new embedded advertising that we all have to be on the lookout for oh very good i like this as a now this is beyond embedded advertising but this was the Hawaii Five-0 guys driving in with their Camaro or one of the cars and And they put this in as like, it's like the Chevy commercial and they just make it the most blatant of any one of these things I've ever seen.

2:12:26 Surf's up and it's Five-O's new Camaro that's making waves. And turning heads all over the island, sponsored by Chevy, the official ride of Hawaii Five-O We need an official ride? Really? We need an official ride at The No Agenda Show! We do! Yes... we do need anything We'll take a Jeep. It's the Ford Expedition 2005 model official ride of the no agenda show Some squeaks included so I thought that was pretty oh, I have a different Hawaii 5-0 clip Did you see that one No some one of our producers send around exactly didn't see it

2:13:17 Yeah, that's pretty blatant. Usually that... I guess the ratings are good on that show though right? Because usually- Yeah you know it was doing very well. It kind of signals the end. Have you been following this stupid Robin Williams show or they still doing McDonalds or is that- No they change every show to a different advertiser Oh yeah oh yeah of course makes so much sense And it's a very hard show to watch because it's not believable It's a it's I don't know. It just doesn't seem to be it doesn't it doesn't flow. It's a no, it's a bad show I'll be surprised if they carry it much longer. I have a I have a new segment on the show It's called make John go Oh brother Okay Are you familiar with this girl? Emily Dreyfus Emily Dreyfus Yeah She apparently works for seenet or maybe she writes for seenet Or and if you look at her

2:14:10 She's kind of a natural, I think... A natural redhead. Kind of cute? But that's what she used to be and now she is no longer redhead kind of cute. Shes kinda like ding baddie annoying. Google her for second. I see your picture Yeah That not how she looks anymore but she was on ummm You know we were talking about 23andMe this is how this came to me So 23andMe is this complete transhumanist nutjob crazy hipster you know sequence your DNA and find out if you what you're going to die from I think you've covered it all yeah just one of remind people and so she's on one of these shows they do over there at CNET

2:14:59 And 23andMe comes up, and I just wanted you to hear this clip. And I only just grabbed a little bit because it goes on for 20 minutes because this is the insanity that is now blanketing our culture And how excited people are about this. Think that's the crux of it right there. It's so cool, but also it's very scary. Yeah It's nerve-wracking because you learn you know if you have inherited It's nerve wracking John diseases or what might pass on to your children But you also learn just like a lot about your makeup and it would

2:15:53 What did you learn if you don't want to do that? Um, so much. But I learned that genetically... Now what do you think she learned from all of this? By the way does she wear a lot of makeup? She should! Well she says you learn about your makeup Yeah Okay well i have two things but one is relevant to this story and then I genetically just don't like sugar. I don't like sugar my family doesn't like sugar. Lucky, that's great. I don't have a sweet tooth that's why for dessert I order more meat So you know this so she knows her she orders more meat. Yes, yes, this is very funny So they come out with the dessert tray Like a piece of bacon so this is not like news to her She already knew this but now somehow This study has said you have the I like meat for dessert gene oh Thank You that's

2:16:41 I'll take a petite filet. That's amazing! But the really interesting thing that I learned, well I learned a lot in shows but the funny thing... This is really interesting John are you sitting down on your chaise lounge for the end of really interesting thing? I'm holding on for dear life Is that I found out there is a gene that will tell you whether or not you are sensitive to bad smells and specifically the smell of other humans like body odor And I don't have that gene. I'm not sensitive to body odor and either is my husband! Wow of them stink. Oh, so what we learned is that we're probably both So stinky yeah, but didn't either of us cares oh my goodness now I see this idiot She's with when she said that I mean to me This is like why don't you just throw me a softball because when she says were probably so stinky the guy should say tell Me about it. I know but these cats these cats Don't know how to do a show over there man

2:17:43 Well, they apparently have no sense of humor. Somebody throws that line at me on something being broadcast I'm on it well She even took a one step further and then all and because we can't smell each other you've gone nose-deaf is that only with No see I have a great sense of smell like when I'm walking down the street in the mission It smells like urine right? I'm disgusted but when I am next to a French person who has never used deodorant in their lives Really Really? Hey! He said it, he said it. He said oh brother That is like the most bigoted thing you can just say casually Like French people smell Yeah, it's big as bullshit Of course it is But the whole idea of this 23andMe and its like so cool It's just so cool And then one time at band camp Told a band camp chick

2:18:39 That's what we need. I think if I was running 23andMe, mm-hmm...I'd just be sending out random stuff like a horoscope you know it's just like who says they're not? Just a bunch of bullshit is just you just lied to everybody but that's what they're not gonna be able to prove you wrong that's what i mean Who says they're not? They might be! It would make sense Hey hold on a second hold on a second I smell another opportunity The No Agenda DNA Sequencing Corporation. $59.95 Half the price! Swazzle Nuff and me, no 69-69 We'll send you a gene sequence Let's see what kind of... let's take a meeting First we gotta get ahold of somebody paperwork so that we can take and copy it Yeah yeah okay So it has to look official And first one I think we should always have in there You may be transgendered

2:19:32 Just be top of the list. Everyone needs to question their identity no matter what and it always has to be in there We can we can match it up a little bit you know like he you're probably bisexual You have the bisexual gene, what else can we put in there? How about the, you'll never be rich. You'll never make it. Here are some other people who have the same gene Adam Curry John C Dvorak look at these losers you're just like them I'm telling this could be a bonanza we should really consider it. It definitely would be unless they do cross-checking which i doubt they will Hey what's going on up there in Canada?

2:20:22 Did you see all this stuff going on with the, ah, the El Sipote Pugtog? The First Nation like the indigenous people. Yeah yeah well they're indigenous people up in Canada are always kick-ass and so they're always irked about something. Yeah but uh but I guess there's this land up there and it's being fracked and they don't like the fracking because It's annoying so legit northern Alberta. There's a lot of this yes, yes and so they were protesting and then the the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Essentially attacked them like cars on fire and all kinds of crazy stuff going on well We have to follow up well we have a couple producers who are sending Pictures in video but it doesn't it's not really

2:21:10 I have to go on the Canadian sling box. So, the citizens are protesting Irving Oil shale gas fracking operations on Irving Oil owned land but it's just...I guess it borders on their land and of course you know what do they get? They probably have like sinkholes. Oh that's probably making a mess up there! Yeah yeah and so they really don't...and I think Irving oil is a Texas company by the way hey That's a fine Houston company fracking away. I just want to know what the... besides the fact they just don't like it, but what is the real beef? Is is messing up their land? I'm sure it is! These oil companies are... they don't care so I'm watching

2:21:59 I'm watching the PBS about the government shutdown. Remember that person we had, or that I had a clip of? That was just creepy giving government analysis like...like a big nurse you know from the movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest very tall he's talking weird Really? Oh Adam i'm sorry that you feel that way But what was it? I remember me talking about It was a CIA person or some creep from And she couldn't answer any questions and she talked like this the whole time. It was just a creepy clip Well, there's another creepy... This is probably all part of this women thing because they want to take over the place But this is another A-hole explaining

2:22:42 with the stupidest thing I've ever heard for at least a month explaining all the difficulties and the interesting parts about restarting the government. She was that she's one of the head of budget management is something that has had to do with restarting and just want to wanted to slap this woman, I only have a short clip but play it and tell me there's a little piece of information here is a little weird Sylvia Burwell, welcome to the NewsHour. Thank you so much for having me Judy So how smoothly did today go? I think today went relatively smoothly we haven't heard any hiccups and people were brought back to work and learned that they needed to come back and are starting to bring the government back up as quickly and effectively as possible

2:23:23 But 16 days shut down, what are the challenges of getting the government back up and running or some of the government back up and running after something like this? So a number of challenges. The first was making sure that employees knew. And I think you probably know that things went quite late last night so making sure we had things in place so that government employees would be notified the government would be up and running, would be a starting one. Others have to do with actually things as simple as information technology and the use of handhelds and mobile devices and how those work after for 16 days not being used. And then there comes sort of longer term issues that there's a lot of work that is backed-up that people will need to focus on.

2:24:03 Wait a minute, so if you don't use your government issued handheld technology it expires? Oh it falls apart. What is that all about?! It hasn't been used for 16 days! It's getting rusty! Might not work... You gotta bang it to get it going again. It's hard to get the thing restarted. How embarrassing is it for the Obama legacy this healthcare.gov website Here's the weird thing about it, I didn't realize. I have a clip from Thom Hartmann your buddy... No no it's YOUR buddy! Who describes in his normal kind of snarky way what was supposed to happen and what finally did happen all the rest of it and he doesn't realize but at least when I heard this clip

2:24:52 It brought to mind a huge question. Then it went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, nah not so much! It's up to the states and a bunch of states said screw this we're not going to do it and the original federal portal was supposed to be just that you go in you put your social security number little bit identifying information they say yeah this guy is a citizen will hand him off to Oregon and then Oregon would handle

2:25:29 But because so many states, because so many Republican governors have said no we're not going to do this. The federal system which is now in use in these red states is crashing whereas Oregon just signed up 10% of their entire uninsured population 56 thousand people in 14 days bang just like that it's working great And the big problem here is that when they realized, when the federal government realized they didn't have enough money. They didn't have enough resources to make the federal website work for half of America When it was really only designed to work for You know as a portal oh So what comes to my mind do you think immediately after listening this bullshit the question is Tom Hartman hi Is the question that popped in my mind here's what comes to my mind. It was designed as a portal Are you telling me? That they spent six hundred million dollars plus on What was gonna be a portal and

2:26:30 Well, let's... What are you telling me? Let's set a couple of things aside. First of all the 600 million dollar thing is a little bit of a Republican meme that is out there because that includes all of the CGI federal contracts not just healthcare.gov so that is a mean that we need to stop. That makes sense We need to stop that however, um...the initial contract before all the add-ons was 97 million dollars Are you telling me that they spent 97 million dollars yeah a portal well he realized that you know dig when it first came out you what they paid to do the first developer who did code 15 1500 bucks 1200 yes see I was over well so here here is the thing that I that I need to explain coming from having done some of this type of work

2:27:25 With my first company we did like derivatives trading desk for a bank. We didn't you know some other things? We did like I can remember what it was, but I think SGI Before they were bought in SGI get purchased by Sun or somebody yeah Yeah, I think so as part of the The effort to make them look pretty I think we had 15 people and we were in New York headquartered company we had 15 people on the ground is that would that be Mountain View and at the time? I think- I don't know, you're tasking me. Yeah i think they were my...I think SGI was in Mountain View where it probably was either Mountain View Palo Alto or Redwood City one of those so you know very expensive and all these consultants and we have like a guy who knew how to run this kind of project which is essentially a project manager who then integrates with other project managers and they have deltas and timelines and reports and to this day I've no idea what we built

2:28:25 It was hundreds of thousands of dollars and this is what happened the the Obama administration our current Administration, and it's not the president. It's Valerie Jarrett That's all these a-holes running around there They think their shit does not stink And they its the hubris that they thought oh well we're worthy where the most transparent most technologically adept Administration in history and we know how to do this. We we won which is also a farce You know, they're like oh we won the election based upon our big data. No you didn't! It's based upon credit card donations from overseas and a lot of fake money foreign money...you didn't win that on individuals and slicing and dicing data so they actually are smoking their own dope at this point And this is a project- This happens all the time

2:29:19 it is a complete, sorry for lack of a better word abortion. It will not ever work properly ever! I've seen this John you've seen this happen when when you get these big contractors if they're integrating someone else's package usually they can make it work so if you get one of the big ERP you know like Bay Bonn or what's the other SAP? You know, these are consultants and it's also millions of dollars to integrate but it's a known package. This is like we're all gonna make up a piece of software imagine a bunch of government contractors said oh! We're gonna go make the iPhone they love this analogy by the way Oh when Apple releases a new piece of software It's glitchy By the way any journalist who uses the word glitch again should turn in their journalism credentials

2:30:13 You've been, I waited and waited for you to say that because you have bitched about this in email. Yes! For God knows how long but you've yet to bring it up on the show? I cannot believe that any organization that puts the words news around the description of what they do find it acceptable to use the word glitch. I'm not gonna argue with the point is true It's just a meaningless term. It is totally meaningless and it is insulting to people who care about why this is happening. You cannot, this is unfixable! I know how this works the minute you get all these contractors and oh we're gonna make this thing it doesn't work that's not how software making software is hard It's very very very hard they just make it look easy and if you get... And I pity all these developers who were brought into this

2:31:10 I mean, go ahead and look on LinkedIn see if anyone has... Oh! I built a healthcare.gov. I bet you no one's putting that on their LinkedIn. Healthcare.gov? I don't know let's find out No and this is it's not so what i fear Impossible. We're working on this, though. Yeah we're trying it is very difficult for our leaders to just admit they have no one knows what is going on when it comes to this type of project

2:31:53 And they have, and maybe Vivek and all those guys bailed like I don't want to have any part of this crap. Vivek is a phony! I'm out no they probably all bailed they'd...no one said who do you point to? Kathleen Sebelius?! Got it This is another thing When there's reporting on PBS, on NPR, on any of the three-letter networks. Whenever it's about this complete abortion of a technology project it's always the medical reporter! don't this is so dumb we need a technologist we need someone who can explain why the technology has grown, why the policy of the technology has gone wrong and why we need to be very worried about other great ideas that our technologically savvy administration claims to have at their fingertips. I have five people that all take credit for healthcare dot gov really you should friend them how does that work? Well it's not

2:32:54 And get a hold of it. They actually admit to it like yeah, I built that oh yeah No here's one guy says I won't mention the names yet I'll dig up. I've talked to him first Let me let me give you an example when you when you get an airline reservation now, by the way my company in 1993 we helped integrate Continental Airlines ticketing system with and that they had their own ticketing system competitive to American Airlines at the time Integrate that into the web fly continental calm they later bought continental comm And we actually helped with the really with the pretty pictures none of the back-end stuff But to this day when you order plane tickets online Typically how it works with the bigger carriers and with the legacy systems like oh, I don't know health care

2:33:46 is you get your everything is in all caps, there's abbreviations in weird places. It's like you pay and then we'll confirm later these are batch processes this is not like some instantaneous beautiful thing this is integrating with IBM mainframes and COBOL which was never changed This is... You know what I mean? it's like everything's all caps now We can't do anything but all caps in the world of airlines. It's because this is how bad it is Have you ever tried to change a reservation online? No, you always wind up having to call in. Right and it's because they know all the codes yeah so all the pretty pictures and everything you see on the front is just that and this is not going to turn around and what's good with the result of course is going to be that you will see

2:34:36 reasonably high premiums, everyone's gonna get screwed because the insurers aren't going to sign up enough people. So the premiums are... that's dynamic by the way so that's all going up and with huge what do you call it? Your own deductible! You know $5,000 annual deductible I mean that's ridiculous No, the whole thing is a fiasco. It really is! I'm sorry I brought it up. No, no...it's sad and I am angry that what no one is asking the right questions about why does this happen? How does it happen? Is it fixable? And all we're getting his lip service from your news organizations who call glitchy What is that even a word in the dictionary?! Yeah, I think it has been there for awhile. Let me see..glitch. Is that G-L-I-T-C-H? Yeah Glitch

2:35:30 Let's see what the definition of glitch is. Definition of Glitch... Merriam-Webster okay for you? Or do you typically like to use a different, uh...? I don't really give a crap. Merriam-Webster is fine An unexpected and usually minor problem especially a minor problem with the machine or device Minor malfunction A minor problem So how can you say that with a straight face?! Ugh! You don't know any better I yeah, all right change topic. All right change topic ever since China The Chinese was it by do by do? I think you what about my do I think by do is accepting Bitcoin by do or Alibaba Probably both but I think by do I don't believe this let me see hold on. I have it here. I have it here Let me see. Let me get the only get the articles a couple articles about this well right now bitcoins high today was 185

2:36:35 It's on a roll. Well, we've got to ask questions about this... Okay here it is. Turmoil in global financial markets recent news of leading global websites accepting Bitcoin may have bolstered enthusiasm for the digital currency but most interesting maybe CNYs definitive recent price leadership that's the Chinese yen CNY I presume so what was here? One. Here we uh ongoing campaign Baidu is now accepting Bitcoin for certain services. Yeah hookers But this is very interesting because you know we pretty much presume that bitcoin Was only usable for Silk Road, and you know some other like renting a server or something And yeah We saw it go to it was it was 50% lower after the Silk Road

2:37:31 Roll-ups a buying opportunity buying opportunity it bopped up and look at it now So now it's just it just went from 179 to 183. Just that now we're talking about it That's the influence of the show I've got to think that you know, we've always Suspected there was something going on here I've got to think that there's I'm gonna revise my thinking that this may be a US agency That's running this thing It's kind of a great idea if I was you could manage it. I think it'd be a great idea to do it that way It's kinda way keep tabs on me because you know that you can the each Bitcoin as it goes through the system, it is actually Trample information where came from what it did well That's kind of the beauty of it You know and all you need to do is just then do that with $1 No All you need to have is just the you know the exchange point wherever whenever something changes into

2:38:30 Into hard currency you can trace it all the way back and see where it came from so It's almost kind of by design a great tracking mechanism Yeah, Tom. I'm very wary of this it makes no sense that this thing is trading this high Based upon the fact that there's nothing to buy with it What are we gonna do? You know every single time there's bad news about Bitcoin the price the price goes up Yes somebody supporting it That's my point. Yeah, you can do that It looks like the easiest thing in the world to manipulate if you're the guy manipulating it and there's still this question about who invented it and all The rest yeah, it sounds very much like a spy operation well I still have about 75 Bitcoin left You're rolling in dough! I spent all the rest on Silk Road How much did you spend on Silk Road? Yeah must have been at least 20 bitcoins Really?!

2:39:27 If you spent one Bitcoin it would be a shocker. Oh, I've no I spent the Bitcoin yes, so I said yeah That's no more than that actually probably spent about two and a half Bitcoin But that's just because I was testing it out. Here's a funny story that played locally with a bunch of strange kind of built-in memes to this, you know there is this thing called the dry ice bomb Yeah, this is the thing that was at the LA airport recently. Yeah there's a dry ice bomb it dries bomb is they is a It's not really an incendiary device. It's not essentially you take a container That's got a screw top lid You throw a piece of dry iced in it and then you close it and as the dry ice melts it The pressure of the carbon dioxide builds up and usually blows up to container right? And if you know there's not much to it

2:40:29 But the way they make it sound as though it's an actual, you know... improvised explosive device. Uh, second wor- Oops sorry! No I'm sorry, hit it A second worker at Los Angeles International Airport has now been arrested in connection with the dry ice explosive devices that were found there. Earlier this week, two of the devices exploded a third was found that hadn't detonated. Los Angeles police say the latest person arrested was a ground service worker who is a supervisor of the first man arrested. Fortunately no one was hurt in the explosions Okay, so this is a there's a broader thing going on here and I bet Nate is it specifically refers to exothermic reactions Yeah It's not it's not a detonation whatsoever No But they use the term freely now the whole thing is like as makes us sound as though there's some danger to these things well yeah sure you could take a packet thing with a shitload of dry ice into a container of water usually and Put some nails and stuff in that would probably you know make make

2:41:30 make a mess but it's not well there I think there's an overarching theme here it's the war on weapons in general and this is more fun most of dry ice things are used by kids and you know during you know you throw it into a trash can and then boom a bunch of garbage flies out. Well, there's a report that I've picked up on and these reports are coordinated all over the world And I was a couple reports from Europe and it's been going on for really four years but i think now its gonna come down to some legislation. And uh... at and i think it's time to snap up some stuff while we still can. The most recent incidents both involved planes near New York's LaGuardia Airport in one, a shuttle America plane was on final approach Tuesday night about six miles from the runway when a green laser illuminated the plane cockpit

2:40:29 But the way they make it sound as though it's an actual, you know... improvised explosive device. Uh, second wor- Oops sorry! No I'm sorry, hit it A second worker at Los Angeles International Airport has now been arrested in connection with the dry ice explosive devices that were found there. Earlier this week, two of the devices exploded a third was found that hadn't detonated. Los Angeles police say the latest person arrested was a ground service worker who is a supervisor of the first man arrested. Fortunately no one was hurt in the explosions Okay, so this is a there's a broader thing going on here and I bet Nate is it specifically refers to exothermic reactions Yeah It's not it's not a detonation whatsoever No But they use the term freely now the whole thing is like as makes us sound as though there's some danger to these things well yeah sure you could take a packet thing with a shitload of dry ice into a container of water usually and Put some nails and stuff in that would probably you know make make

2:41:30 make a mess but it's not well there I think there's an overarching theme here it's the war on weapons in general and this is more fun most of dry ice things are used by kids and you know during you know you throw it into a trash can and then boom a bunch of garbage flies out. Well, there's a report that I've picked up on and these reports are coordinated all over the world And I was a couple reports from Europe and it's been going on for really four years but i think now its gonna come down to some legislation. And uh... at and i think it's time to snap up some stuff while we still can. The most recent incidents both involved planes near New York's LaGuardia Airport in one, a shuttle America plane was on final approach Tuesday night about six miles from the runway when a green laser illuminated the plane cockpit

2:42:23 The second incident happened about three hours later. A private plane reported a green laser two miles from the airport The Federal Aviation Administration provided this demonstration of what the pilot sees. Yeah, the demonstration by the way is really outrageously lame FBI special agent in charge Rich Frankel It can blur division basically it could like fog the vision of the cockpit when you're looking at the glass so that it's much harder to look out the glass and identify locations where your going That's their expert by the way. Yeah, you know it makes it hard to see where you're going. Handheld laser pointers are easily found both online and in office supply stores

2:43:05 I just saw a big flash out the window and the captain saw green light inside the cockpit. In 2006, there were 384 cases reported Last year there were more than 3400 There has been a 17% increase in the last year alone The FBI has now made laser pointing a federal crime Aha! That is new Laser pointing is a federal crime, John. There you have it! And I think it's time to snap up as many of these laser pointers as possible They are in opposition or as opposed to dry ice...I think they are very effective weapons

2:43:46 And some of these 650 milliwatt lasers? Well the big ones yeah they're dangerous. You can burn stuff! Yeah, blind people... No no but you can like set stuff on fire. These are great I think- They're great for what?! Killing ants!? For putting stuff on fire this is- This ant let's see let me give that ant and then i'll let him go. I'll never forget and maybe were under eminent domain. Remember we had moved into the new flat in San Francisco, into The Loft and they started tearing down every building around us remember that? And then all of a sudden they started going 24 hours a day because the city of San Francisco said oh that's okay no one live in there! In the middle of the night they were wrecking stuff and I took out the laser pointer and I flashed it on one of the construction workers reflective jackets

2:44:41 Do you remember that? Yeah, vaguely. Then they came up and they were threatening to kill me? They were very upset with that! And I have to say it's a really threatening device You shine that on somebody is like boom so their outlawed now It's a federal offense yeah you'd have been arrested and thrown in the slammer yeah but I think there's these are going to be outlawed and you should buy them now while stocks last you're gonna want to have one of These are great little devices tell me you don't have one I have a bunch of them. Yeah, you have like a really powerful one? No i don't have any of those so i think those are...I don't like having them around the house Really? I'd rather have a loaded gun in the house than one of those things So Cory Booker was so oh man. I know! Cory Booker got elected as a senator from New Jersey Yep

2:45:30 I'm there. Wow. Okay, the lines that divide us... Representin'! The lines that divide us are nothing like the ties that bind us I got that one so in other words

2:46:12 The the ways were more similar is beautiful as to the ways that we know you sounded like him Let me let me hear that again too many people are forgetting that the lines that divide us Are nothing compared? To those ties that bind us okay, so the lines of dividers and nothing compared the ties that binds a pair not compared Compare well of course. What's it's Corey speak I It forgets, the cynical attitude forgets. The cynical attitude? The cynical attitude forgets... The idea that ideal, the truth that we are all in this together Nice and that's a senator yeah great Yeah another idiot That's great New term in the war on bullying

2:47:01 New term, new term, new term. We're talking about Maria Kang. She's mom to three young children she is also a business owner and former fitness model well she posted this shot on her Facebook page a picture of herself with her three children in the caption what your excuse Well, it set off a firestorm. People have accused Maria Kang of being a bad mom photoshopping that picture even bullying A Facebook user named Fiona wrote quote please do not assume that your situation is everybody else's don't fat shame and Maria Kang is joining us now on Skype from Fat shaming

2:47:39 Fat she had that clip a couple of shows ago, and we never got to it. I never had the fat shaming clip this No the fat shaming thing is new this is a different version of the story and fat shaming. I like I like it Oh, you're fat shaming us. And the woman has a reason she says what's your excuse? She's got a gorgeous body and she's got three kids and she obviously just works out all the time. And she's just bragging about herself and then they give her crap about it so she's now a bully. Yeah! A Fat Shamer. Everybody is a bully. I think that movie Femme Is a bully movie. It's a... it bullies anyone who watches it. When you watch it, when you watch it holding hands on the couch tonight I want you to think of yourself as being bullied Holding hands? One of our producers uh..I think its ummm one of our kids in school I have his name here he sent me The Bullying Circle This is ahh I should've emailed this to you

2:48:42 The Always Bullying Prevention Program. So they have whole programs now in school as a part of I guess Common Core or whatever that is intended to... Let me just see what's the guys name it's hmm crap don't have his name here so there's students modes of reaction and roles in an acute bullying situation, so imagine a circle John in the middle of the circle is a dot with a Y in it that is the victim! The one who is exposed. And then we have a circle around it with little dots A, B, C, D, E, F and G. A is the bully or bullies who start the bullying and take an active part Then you get B, the followers slash henchmen They take an active part but do not start the bullying Then you have C, the supporters or passive bullies Who support the bullying But do not take an active part Then D, the passive supporters and possible bullies

2:49:44 They like the bullying but don't openly display support. So they're secret bullies and then E, you have to bully wannabes. Yeah, bully wannabes! Then you have E, the disengaged onlookers who watch what happens but do not take a stand and then F possible defenders who dislike the bullying and think they ought to help but do not So essentially... Wait, they left out the one guy? There are heroes! No. I've seen bullying when i was a kid and there's usually a guy does you want to be tough guys usually who hate the bullies and when they see him bullying somebody they come in and start a fight with them and usually beat the crap out of him where is that guy?! I don't see him here on The Circle Of Bullying. And then the whole thing is bogus

2:50:28 They're not letting the normal dynamics of a social situation actually play itself out. They're making this stuff up! Well, they have the OLWUS Bullying Prevention Program. O-L-W-E-U-S Holy crap I've never heard of this Let's Google this for a second... O-L W E U S Bullying Prevention Program Wow This is for real? Stopbullying.gov No no no Award-winning program for schools and communities. They have kits DVDs and workbooks Wow here it is came out at Clemson What's Clemson the University of Clemson Clemson University? It's a big school in the ACC Let's say bullying prevention program yeah, well the two other guys that are shown on this picture are I guarantee our bullies Yeah, there's a lot all of them now. Well. It's a lot of intervention by adults

2:51:34 and not a lot of intervention by, you know. I agree with you. I remember getting bullied from time to time and having one of the big guys step in usually someone who had been kept back a grade who was older than everybody else and a little quiet because- He'd get bigger usually Yeah, bigger And he said hey stop that! You be like thankful but then they go like get off me you gnat i just don't like seeing injustice yeah we need more of that well they don't talk about that I have a couple of things that we'll get to on the Thursday show. I want to mention, we still want to talk about the meme going around in UK about 800 thousand lonely. Yeah, I heard that on NPR as well. I've got a couple things...I'm doing a little research and finding one of people who was involved with early studies done when this began which is actually 2010

2:52:30 And the one thing that I found weird was the meme, because I did some meme searching where you take a big chunk of text and throw it into Google and see where it starts to show up. The one idea was the 15 cigarettes a day being lonely is the same for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day which I find somewhat ironic because they were discussing this with 90-year old women. It's like wow how do you live that long smoking 15 cigarettes a day? And I'll discuss this in more detail because they have one specific contact who went on vacation from one of the universities who was actually partly responsible, I think for some of these early memes that were picked up by the British and i'll discuss it on Thursday. Okay It's the chronic loneliness was the meme chronic loneliness? I guess all right The only thing I want to wrap up for you today with is a report which

2:53:27 Actually the Daily Beast found the stenographer's husband Diane Rydie. Remember the stenographer who... Oh yeah, there was a crazy stenographer that was obviously blasted from some beam and freaked out on stage Well would you like to know what their story is after they found her husband and interviewed him? Of course, I think that's the way to end the show. Okay so her husband is the 54 year old pastor Dan Reidy R-E-I-D-Y and he says that in weeks leading up to this she had at night repeatedly been awakened by the Holy Spirit and urged to deliver a message on the house floor

2:54:09 he said that she kept waking up in the middle of the night, here just waking several times a night feeling that God's just been pressing on her to open a Bible and get into his word. And she just couldn't take it anymore and when she saw the vote...and I actually would forget the religion stuff! She saw what was going on, this is rather long article but it's worth reading essentially people making deals you know, all on the back of the shutdown and everybody lying. Everybody just in it for their own personal gain mainly and then when they did the vote they're all hugging the people who had pretended to hate each other, the people who pretended to like each other everyone has false face Everyone's a huge phony liar And according to her husband she snapped

2:55:03 she just couldn't take it any longer as a God-fearing religious woman and... It's a great story. It is beautiful story! And she just cracked, and if you listen to what she said where this is not one... there are lot of people in America who are religious and believe in God so you know she's one of them and then she says hey this isn't how One Nation indivisible under God, this is bullcrap And the Holy Spirit told her to say it because she just couldn't take it anymore. And if you look at the sequence of the vote and then she's standing there, and she's seeing like... You don't know who it is because it's hard to see in this wide shot on C-SPAN I think she just went oh my god these guys all they did was they played a joke Basically She's Like Us where she saw the bull crap

2:55:56 But instead of getting a podcast, you decided to get arrested. Yeah, you know, get a podcast, get arrested and do one or the other. I mean, really? You got to make a choice in life don't you? A beautiful story! I still like the extremely low frequency beam into her Abilify better but i'll take this as an explanation... And I understand it! I think there's a lot of people in America who feel the same way. Maybe not just in America Gitmo nation, it's possible you feel the same way and we're here to help you understand Why do you feel crappy about it so you can feel better have a laugh about it? That's right. That's what we do if if you didn't chuckle at least once today Please never come back to this program If you did consider giving us some value with the vorac org slash na

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