Episode 544 · Sunday, 1 September 2013

Arab Winter

A collapse in British support and rising defense stocks frame the White House push for Syrian intervention as the media narrative shifts toward a new Arab Winter.

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About this episode

Senator John McCain and President Barack Obama are pushing for military intervention in Syria following a chemical weapons attack in Ghouta, despite a stunning rejection of force by the British Parliament. While the administration frames the strike as a defense of global prohibition norms, leaked reports from Mint Press News suggest Syrian rebels may have mishandled Saudi-provided ordnance. The geopolitical tension has sent Raytheon stock soaring as the cost of Tomahawk missiles and defense contractor profits take center stage.

Secretary of State John Kerry and State Department spokesperson Marie Harf face intense scrutiny over the unclassified intelligence used to justify a 'rubble strategy' in the Middle East. Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia reportedly attempted to bribe Vladimir Putin into abandoning Bashar al-Assad, while media outlets pivot to demonizing Asma al-Assad with Marie Antoinette comparisons. Domestic policy shifts under Vice President Joe Biden and new California revenge porn legislation further complicate the national landscape as the public remains largely apathetic to foreign entanglements.

This episode features a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Roy of Ancona and Dame Sam, alongside a deep dive into the 'war on sysadmins' and the legacy of Edward Snowden. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak reflect on the nostalgic aroma of Testers Dope paint from childhood model kits and the technical superiority of the Mutt command-line email client. The show concludes with a critical look at George Clooney’s satellite spying and the subconscious linguistic slips of the political elite.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Model Airplanes, Dope Paint, Remote Control Hobby Evolution

The hosts reminisce about building plastic model airplane kits during childhood, specifically recalling the distinct aroma of Testers Dope paint and alcohol-based engine fuel. They contrast the physical tethered-string flying models of the past with modern remote-controlled versions that require less mechanical maintenance. The discussion touches on the health effects of inhaling aromatics like toluene found in model glue.

testers dope· model airplanes· toluene· remote control· hobby shop

00:00 I hate Tokyo. And the portions are so small! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday September 1st 2013 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 544 This is no agenda Sniffing signatures of sarin here in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state where mofo meets soco Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley we're sniffing nothing I'm John C. Dvorak I've never been a sniffer really. So, I never done the glue thing. Yeah, if i wouldn't do glue it's not good for the brain No that's why I never did it! It's like people who snuff or where they go huff-huff uh... Huffers, huffers. Toluene and some of these other aromatics are not healthy They're not good for those in fact especially some of them bad for the liver. I do remember when I was a kid once we were on vacation

01:00 I bought it was raining and so I think my parents let me buy like you know eight model airplanes They had to get kind of these smaller kits like for two bucks a kit. Yeah, we're these now These are the plastic plastic ones yeah And I built all eight of them in in like you know in one afternoon with the windows closed Feel so good mommy little nauseous I remember my parents going, oh fuck the kid's stoned. And what are you talking about? Can you imagine if your like six? Well it was just of your painting because there was this type of test...I think it was called...I think the brand was Testers and it was called Dope. Dope yeah! No that's exactly what is was dope

01:41 It was this paint that you use on modern planes, especially the high end ones. And man that stuff just smelled beautiful! It was good stuff. Really had a nice aroma. I always liked the aromas of the engines and the kind of fuel they used which is mostly alcohol. You're talking about... Flying once remember the did you ever one of those airplanes that you had on unlike two strings and yeah, and yeah Yeah exactly it wasn't It was as easy as it looks by them That was like And this is a novice mode which would be like the engine all the way back at little little ratchets and then so essentially had this plastic handle with with a string on each side and if you move your hand up then You know that would move the airlines up

02:33 So the plane would go up and if you moved it down, then it would crash and burn and create a hole Which is common like instantly. It was like no worries. It'll just you can snap it right back together Yeah Mine was broken after one go Wow, that's interesting. Did you do that with your kids or did you do this yourself? No when I was a kid we used to do that Okay so that carried over to when i was a kid interestingly enough. There is still 10 years difference Well nowadays I don't see much of it

03:09 All remote control. Yeah, remote control and no... probably less engines because you know that was kind of the thing you just bought You go down to the toy store now we need a license and I'm sure this is you know The cops come if you're flying this thing around on the street Well anyway those little engines were cool yeah they were Anyway, so what do we got today? Any news I didn't hear anything. Not much going on unfortunately. I'm struggling to find anything So I guess we can talk about Syria Do we have to? Let me just kick it off with did you see this press TV report

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Syria Chemical Attack, Mint Press News, Saudi Arabia Allegations

A report from Press TV cites freelance journalist Dale Govlak and Mint Press News regarding the chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta. The report alleges that Syrian rebels admitted to receiving chemical ordnance from Saudi Arabia and that casualties resulted from the mishandling of these weapons due to a lack of training. The hosts express skepticism toward the mainstream narrative that the Syrian government would gas its own people during an active war.

syria· ghouta· dale govlak· mint press news· saudi arabia

03:52 No. So the press TV is of course from the Iranians and I guess do they broadcast, are they on anywhere or is it just all internet that we get them on? Or...I've never seen them on anywhere except internet Yeah but yeah they do have English hosts, English speaking hosts and this was this was the report This kind of summed it all up Well in Syria the foreign bank insurgents have taken responsibility for last week's chemical attack with which the US and its allies are blaming on the Syrian government militants in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta admitted to Dale Govlak, a freelance AP journalist who broke the story for Mint Press News that they received the chemical weapons from Saudi Arabia.

04:28 The insurgents have also said that the casualties were the result of mishandling of chemical ordnance which happened because they were not properly trained how to handle such material. A few months ago, shocking footage posted on the internet showed insurgents testing chemical weapons on laboratory rabbits and making threats to use them against Syrians. Mohammed! Mohammed! You're in your big feet again? You kicked that bottle over I think there's merit...I think there is merit to this story by the way I think there is too. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. You know i'm getting a little too annoyed by the memes that we keep getting thrown at. Gassing their own people! Massacring their own people... How does this make any sense in a war scenario? Hey what are we gonna do?! There's some of our buddies over there and some of our soldiers let's gas them just for kicks because we're sick. Even though I'm going to break my own rule

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

John McCain, Piers Morgan, Syria Intervention Rhetoric

Senator John McCain appeared on the Piers Morgan show to advocate for military intervention in Syria, citing a humanitarian tragedy and the use of chemical weapons. During the interview, McCain dismissed the possibility of a rebel "false flag" operation as "pigs fly" logic. The hosts analyze McCain's performance, noting a moment where he referred to the situation as a "facade" and questioning his certainty regarding the evidence of stacked bodies.

john mccain· piers morgan· bashar al-assad· chemical weapons· red line

05:23 I found McCain, War Monger McCain to be almost funny on Piers Morgan. Well, curiously by the way I think McCain of all these guys even though he's always presenting himself as some tough cookie is maybe one of the funniest guys. He has got to be a great guy to go have a beer with Yes him and Rick Perry together what a threesome we'd have We would swap dresses it would be great So here is a warmonger McCain on the Pierce Morgan show, which I know for a fact has less people watching than listen to this podcast. Yes and all you do when you bring him on this show is getting a bigger audience. Thank you! Why can't we get McCain on the show? Would we do a guest if McCain came on the show for once and break format? No no we're never going to do it again. Okay alright good then well just... It's a rule but you can go interview him and then we could put some clips on the show

06:25 He's got to be meta this would turn out bad if I interviewed him, but he's almost you listen to his voice. I've never heard him This excited it's like it It's like he's on you know amphetamines or something? It's really interesting first is gonna lay out the whole Middle East in 45 seconds well first of all we have watched Syria evolve into one of the great humanitarian tragedies in recent history. There is a hundred thousand dead, a million now children are refugees as the conflict has spread to Jordan to Lebanon Iraq is now in chaos and we're resurrected Al Qaeda base The Iranians are there 5,000 Hezbollah fighting on the side of Bashar Assad

07:19 daily flights of weapons fly in, Iranian and Russian aircraft into Damascus in a very unfair fight. And now we've had numerous instances of the use of chemical weapons, the latest being the largest." Man! Sounds like a good vacation destination that whole Middle East. Yeah it sounds like a ball. Here he is with his voice just going out of control... You know by the way I'm gonna stop you here for second. Sure You could have played that clip without ever mentioning Piers Morgan because you never brought him into the clip. You're right, and... You could assume he's on an anonymous talk show that I'm not going to talk about. And then you play it. You're right! I will send the check back to Jeff Zucker. I'm sorry. I'm being paid to promote CNN Would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them?

08:13 When I heard this, I'm like... Would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them? And he's trying to make it so ridiculous that he is laughing about it. But I am not buying it! I think he is genuinely garnering some pleasure from this. He's not giddy. Would you ignore that it has already been established, that as many as 10 times at least and many as 30 where chemical weapons have already been used? There is no doubt about that? No doubt about it! Is there any doubt in your mind? Can he be 100% sure though? Absolutely!

08:57 Yeah, I couldn't tell if you were Pierce Morgan or you were John. I know, I sound like Pierce Morgan unfortunately. So here's the thing now he asserts that they've already been used and there are 30 incidents of what? I don't know what the hell he is talking about. Nobody knows who he is talking about! If any of this is true how come that wasn't the red line? How come that's not what we decided to do? Oh John look, you and I are not going to have this discussion Right, we're not going to actually try and put any kind of logic into it are we? No please. Alright quick statement and were done with this. Of course I can! I like that Pierce's job is to say how can you be 100% sure that's his only job and McCain forgets that Pierce is supposed to do that Here why I can because he already used them so why wouldn't he use them again in larger quantities

09:43 I am more playing devil's advocate to be honest with you. Sure, sure. To disagree with you personally. But let me also... Let me just point out to you... No no John we did and we discussed Pierce would play devil's advocate then you answered it he's up buddy yeah now what else your one question is this go ahead how can you be a hundred percent sure on the evidence that we've seen that it wasn't a rogue element of the rebels deliberately letting off chemical weapons to try and lure America into trap. That is an argument some people are putting forward. Yeah, and pigs fly! Only at Floyd shows... I think pigs fly is what he said. That's his answer How can you know that it's 100% sure that Assad gassed people

10:35 Well, pigs fly. Put that forward. The rebels don't have those weapons they don't have the chemical weapons so how could and there is ample evidence it is going to be forthcoming yes the difference between this here's the body stacked up okay in the ample evidence in Iraq where did you let me ask your question Where did you see the bodies stacked up on the social media? I've never seen bodies stacked up. They have been strewn out and covered, and that's just a b-roll shot from someone. That's from Iraq yeah? The strewn out video. And then there is a bunch of kids laying in a bundle, and just laying there they didn't bother closing their eyes or doing anything which doesn't make sense when everybody else neatly wrapped in white

11:20 then there's a guy shaking two guys shaking yeah but he keeps saying that you know how can you dispute the evidence of stacked bodies I'm like I haven't seen this stack bodies maybe has well he actually I think now maybe I misunderstood the way he said this but he I think he misspoke in this particular little clip here I think it's put him into a very difficult and contradictory position because this wasn't the first time that Bashar Assad crossed the red line. There are some allegations that is was as many as 30 times, absolutely so many as 10 and there is no doubt that this is chemical weapons come on does anybody really believe that those aren't chemical weapons? Those bodies of those children stacked up

12:11 Uh, and so that's just a facade. And the other façade is... Now wait a minute! Did he just say that's a façade? Yeah, he did. I mean... That's a good catch! ...I think he meant to say that people... He was babbling away and the truth comes out. It's like don't give him beer before he goes on the air because he literally said this is a facade There's no doubt that this is chemical weapons come on Does anybody really believe that those aren't chemical weapons? Those bodies of those children stacked up

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Raytheon Stock, Tomahawk Missiles, Congressional Insider Trading

Raytheon (RTN) stock has seen a significant increase, rising from approximately $40 to $75 in 2013, amid talk of missile strikes in Syria. Each Tomahawk missile costs roughly $1.4 million, leading to concerns that military action is being driven by defense contractor profits. The hosts discuss the difficulty of tracking congressional stock trades and suggest that the timing of the conflict coincides conveniently with budget sequester pressures.

raytheon· tomahawk missiles· stock market· congress· sequester

12:46 And so that's just a facade. And the other facade... It's just a façade, okay! Then he went on The Tonight Show? He's pounding the drum I would like you know there used to be a rule here's my thinking on this. Raytheon is at all-time high it started skyrocketing following the money hold on one point four million dollars a missile yeah Yes. And so Raytheon's really screaming in the stock market also there is you know they tried to computerize which very easy to do, computerized the documents because Congress and the aides and the congressman can invest in anything they want to based on anything they know that they're not subject to any insight or

13:32 uh... as well will there was legislation signed by the president and they do have to submit this within ninety days of making a trade in the only record of it is in the basement yet we can get any photocopy of the micro fish right you have to go to what he'd like to be presented with putting online which is easy to do that but then they changed it so you actually if I wanted to find out who owns shares in Raytheon and when they bought and i would suspect McCain is one of them I have to go to Washington DC and scrounge around a file system that I'm unfamiliar with, to find the record I'm looking for. Then I have to pay $1 or something to get a copy of it." No one's going to do this even though they should be doing it at The Washington Post there should be one person full time in that office but there is probably nobody there half the time. Oh we can't go in today? I am sure its not as easy to get in there as you'd imagine

14:28 So, Raytheon stock is skyrocketing now. They have to shoot off... in fact there was a... let me look at this article it's an article of all places in Politico and they were bitching says reports the White House is planning attacks to punish Damascus for the use of chemical weapons sent Raytheon stock to two-week high and have reawakened grumblings, that's reawakened listen to this, reawakening grumblings in Congress that the military doesn't buy enough tomahawks. There have been many of us who have been concerned for years about maintaining our missile capabilities Rob Bishop Republican of Utah a member the House Armed Services Committee yeah on paper the Pentagon buys 196 multiply that by 1.4 million Tomahawk missiles a year okay can I just interject for one second? I'm looking at the chart because this is what you said it and then I went and checked facts checked to

15:31 In February of 2013, Raytheon stock which is RTN on the New York Stock Exchange was at let's see $40.44 Close on Friday $75 it has That's like 80% 80. It was 80 80 to 85 Brian if you are buying puts or call a college Yeah, do be make ten times your money and and you'd be rolling in hookers and blow

16:07 And by the way, this is discouraging because we should have seen this coming up down Broadway. Yeah! Hey John you're the guy that's supposed to say Adam go buy these calls and Raytheon or whatever just send me a link so I can click on it now of course if this doesn't happen because they can Because they were showing, you know if you remember some of the early clips. Oh they got 80 missiles They're gonna fire they're gonna fire 80 missiles on this ship and 40 from that That's a hundred and fifty million dollars right there Yes during the sequester I might add yeah And let's not and let's forget what it cost to roll the ship out right during this sequester I might have yeah D Is that just a coincidence? You think what oh

16:52 It's all happening during the sequester, of course. Oh they don't pay attention to the sequester when they have to punish Damascus Exactly Whatever the case is this is obviously somebody...the payday so I think they've already made their mind They can all sell hold out you know do that good thing with Congress keep talking about it Don't do anything Right And then go short with the puts And say, yeah we're not going to launch any of these missiles. We're not going to be buying too many. So you're saying that now is the time to buy it...to short it? To buy on the downside that's gonna drop like a rock possibly down to 60? Yeah! So you think they are not going to fire them off? You don't think they are going to light em up?

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

British Parliament Vote, David Cameron, UN Neutrality

The British Parliament voted against joining military action in Syria, a move that surprised Prime Minister David Cameron. This legislative rejection has left the United States without its primary military ally for the proposed strikes. Meanwhile, Senator John McCain criticized the United Nations for its neutrality and refusal to apportion blame for the chemical attacks, while also suggesting the UK is no longer a top-tier world power.

david cameron· british parliament· united nations· world power· syria vote

17:37 I'm getting to think that more and more since the British Parliament decided to short-rate the army. Now let me ask you a question, because I've looked at this and of course people know that David Cameron went to his parliament and said okay now lets...the representatives of the British people should we get involved? And they said no but when you look at the underlying facts there were ten 10 members of parliament who were like, oh I didn't know there was a vote going on. I was pooping. Oh you know I had a conflict, a scheduling conflict There's actually discussion going on right now that because our Congress is gonna take a vote and there's discussion in various forums

18:19 as who the chicken shit guys are who aren't going to vote one way or the other. And I think that's what happened in Parliament because they didn't want to take sides in case things went south. Do you think that, do you think it was a set up intended either A.) To embarrass Cameron OR quite possibly to embarrass Obama or to short Raytheon and that actually seems like the most logical. I'd think Cameron was in on this whole scam because he was such a loud mouth, plenty of clips of him yeah oh we know we gotta do this we gotta do that they need to be punished and he went on and on knowing that the British public wouldn't go along with it but it makes him look good and Obama well I tried! What can I do?

19:05 I can't tell you. Can't fuck Parliament! Yeah, yeah... I don't think it makes him look bad at all just because he throws right back to the parliament and they decided now they left-you know all we have left is this idiot holon. Here's a listen to what McCain had to say when he was on The Tonight Show did you see him on The Tonight Show? No i missed that. All right here's a short clip and he talks about uh funny that you caught it You know, we actually the other night. We said hey why don't we just watch it tonight? We wound up watching David Letterman because it was his Like 20th anniversary on CBS or whatever. It's a pretty lame anniversary show Yeah, it was but you know there you go so yeah sometimes I slip by I'll admit to it Why would the UN not say? You know Senator... I'm the front man for the New World Order! Why don't you come on my show and we will tell all 2 million of them who are watching That's good McCain that's a good idea why don't we bomb the runway Let's go bomb the runway

20:05 This is this is what this is how it's a propagated to the American people. We're only gonna bomb the runway no worry Hey, just no problem gonna bomb the runway when no soldiers are involved nobody's being killed you're just blowing up land It's gonna be killed but just blowing up land Jay why doesn't he went go for this? The UN has turned into an organization that in my estimation, in many ways is a waste of taxpayers' dollars. Right now the UN is ascertaining whether this was a chemical attack and I think it's fairly obvious since you see these bodies stacked up with not a mark on them... I still haven't seen the stacks! And the head of the United Nations has said but we won't apportion blame

20:50 What? You're not going to say who is responsible for it. That's your tax dollars at work. Why won't they say that? Because they want to be neutral, they want to be neutral about everything and I feel badly about the British... They're our dear friends, but they're no longer a world power. This is, so now of course I was like you I'm sure really like wow this is an interesting move when the president came out and said you know hey I've decided that we need to take military action however uh... I'm gonna take it to a vote.

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Barack Obama, Rose Garden Speech, Global Prohibition Norms

President Barack Obama delivered a speech in the Rose Garden asserting that the use of chemical weapons in Syria is an assault on human dignity and a threat to U.S. national security. He introduced the term "global prohibition" to describe the international norms against such weapons. The President argued that failure to act would risk the proliferation of these weapons to terrorist groups and endanger regional allies like Israel and Jordan.

barack obama· rose garden· national security· chemical weapons· global prohibition

21:40 And then, you know... Actually for those who haven't heard. I mean we have the clips if you do want to play any of that? Of the president talking about them? You know a lot of people listen to our show to get the news. Yeah all right i have it in sequence okay so here's... Give them the little news yeah and these are uh these are short so this is good this is how the president started off his rose garden speech several hundred of them were children young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government For what end? Oh yeah, it makes so much sense. It is an assault on human dignity and also presents a serious danger to our national security. It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons The global prohibition this is a new term John

22:31 The global prohibition. It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria's borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq. It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons or their proliferation into terrorist groups who would do our people harm. What was that term again? I was just writing it down and lost it. Prohibition... the global prohibition. Global prohibition You know, when the president comes out and says this and any person who has not been mesmerized and hypnotised by the scan lines of your telescreen you have to say well why would a guy do that? Is it just because he's like an evil dictator sitting there stroking his white pussy laughing. And there is a problem! The real problem is asthma

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Asma al-Assad, Vogue Magazine, Marie Antoinette Comparisons

Media outlets like USA Today are running segments comparing Asma al-Assad, the British-born wife of the Syrian President, to Marie Antoinette. Despite her previous portrayal as a "fashion icon" in Vogue magazine and her associations with Western celebrities, the current media narrative frames her as the "gentle face of a brutal regime." The hosts analyze this shift in propaganda intended to demonize the Syrian leadership.

asma al-assad· vogue magazine· erica hill· marie antoinette· syria

23:25 Asma Assad al-Assad is his wife. She's the problem in all of this because you know, she was in 2012 featured in Vogue magazine She's born in the UK Educated in the UK has been a fashion icon and you know Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt hung out with them they were you know dining and Angelina Jolie who I think is the ambassador for all children and all things dying at the United Nations and And where is she denouncing her friend Asmaa Al-Assad? So now we have to go on this campaign to make sure you've got all the bases covered. This is USA Today who do video apparently. Today's cover story, another side to the conflict in Syria The British born wife of the Syrian president today's Erica Hill has her story. Erica good morning. Okay Erica good morning could you please slander her Mac good morning to you. Asmaa al-Assad standing by her man smiling by his side as recent photos

24:19 And she's also inspiring some new comparisons to other famous wives. What would that other famous wife be, John? Could you figure the meme out? Michelle Obama. Not the kind most people would want. No. In pictures Asma Al-Assad... Ava Brown! No, Marie Antoinette No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's really evil underneath! Evil! And kind of sexy I'd like to point that out

25:01 of first ladies. Magnetic. Very much into fashion, always looking her best and like to travel she's also very well educated Born in London in 1975 to Syrian parents Asma al-Assad was raised and educated in England She worked in banking before quitting in late 2000 to move to Syria and marry President Bashir Al Assad Sounds evil to me John I think she is a baddie Where she settled into charity work Syria... Did she say tyranny work? I think she said tyranny work. ...Spurt Andrew Tabler first met Assad in 2002 She was always seen as the more reasonable, the kinder, gentler face Kindler! of a brutal regime. I'm not going to play the whole thing because it just goes on and on but it ends up with her being compared to Marie Antoinette

25:46 Of course, let them eat cake while my husband slaughters them. Slaughters our own people? Yes! Because you know... If you're going to slaughter somebody don't slaughter the rebels. Don't slaughter the people trying to take your country away. Slaughter your own people because that makes so much sense and it's a great meme I love how they always talk about Assad and his military and his forces And I caught our president kind of doing the same thing yesterday Now, I have not made a final decision about various actions that might be taken to help enforce that norm. But as i've already said...I have had my military and our team... My military! Really?

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

War Powers Resolution, Congressional Authorization, Executive Power

President Obama announced he will seek authorization from Congress for the use of military force in Syria, despite maintaining that he has the unilateral authority to act. The hosts discuss the legal distinction between the War Powers Resolution and a formal declaration of war. They argue that seeking this vote is a strategic move to ratify expanded presidential military powers for future administrations.

war powers resolution· congress· constitution· barack obama· authorization of force

26:33 I would say that's a little flub. You're military, that's right you are military. So yes... He has decided to take military action After careful deliberation i have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets This would not be an open-ended intervention We would not put boots on the ground Instead our action will be designed to be limited in duration and scope But I'm confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior and degrade their capacity to carry it out. Our military has positioned assets in the region. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose." And then he goes on to say the incredible thing that

27:30 But, having made my decision as commander in chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests. I'm also mindful that I am the president of the world's oldest constitutional democracy. I've long believed... He adjusted that, it was funny. What? You used to say the oldest democracy Yeah, it's now the world's oldest constitutional... No. World's oldest constitution which is different because the world's oldest democracy is in Iceland Right this is constitutional democracy Good point Rooted not just in our military might but in our example as a government of the people by the people and for the people That's why I've made a second decision Sitting on the face of the people! I will seek authorization for the use of force

28:19 from the American people's representatives in Congress. Whoa! Yeah, right... So yeah I looked into this quite deeply because you know as a constitutional professor myself i'm always interested when he brings this kind of stuff up and what exactly is he seeking? And uh... You know, I think that there's a lot of confusion People, first of all what he's doing is addressing the War Powers Resolution, which I'd like to point out is not called the War Powers Act. This is a big mistake I hear constantly on the mainstream news channels It's a resolution and the war powers resolution doesn't really give anything Is that it was really meant as a clarification On you know on the presidential powers in the Constitution

29:17 Did you know, did you know what was in here? Do you how this worked? How this War Powers Resolution thing fits together and that most presidents actually don't like the war powers resolution. They think that they should be total dictators and do whatever they want right but the president sent a letter to Congress and he in that letter he is specifically asking for it's very simple if you've seen this is very very simple note He says he wants authorization And he actually wrote the document. The only thing Congress has to do is come back and go, yay or nay? So A, authorization the President is authorized to use the armed forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in connection with the use of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in the conflict in Syria

30:03 Prevent or deter the use or proliferation including the transfer to terrorist groups Or other state or non-state actors within to or from Syria of any weapons of mass destruction including chemical or biological weapons or components of or materials using such weapons or Protect the United States and its allies and partners against a threat posed by such weapons And why don't we just say put the crown on his head your king go ahead do whatever you want. I specific statutory authorization consistent with section 8 a one of the war powers resolution congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specifics that this is very important this is constitutionally very important was written here on reading again he's saying this will be a vote in this boat will say

30:48 that consistent with section A1 of the War Powers Resolution, Congress declares this section of the War Powers Resolution is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of 5B of the War Powers Resolution. And what he is saying is essentially what he said! Yet while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course and our actions will be even more effective. So he's basically saying, I believe I can do whatever I want because it's not you know He's not declaring war. This is all this sneaky stuff that they're trying to you know like it's all about the words on the 18th century the declaring war meant something different

31:39 You know, it's like unless someone writes it up on paper with a quill and ink. It's not really the same wink-wink nudge-nudge So what is happening here? Is not just whether we go or not...it will forever I would say ratify the power of the president And what he can do with our military at his beck and call essentially Yeah, and it will be for all the presidents to come. Yes most presidents by the way have always said they found the war powers resolution to be you know Unconstitutional and not and you know doesn't adhere to them They've all said screw it when I'm listening that well that won't last for long Well so here's the question will the American people... What do we think Hillary is gonna? Do she's gonna laugh when we kill him That's what she's that's her script When we kill who

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Town Hall Meetings, Public Apathy, Anti-War Sentiment

The hosts debate whether the American public is effectively pressuring Congress to vote against Syrian intervention. While some believe congressmen are getting an "earful" from constituents during their summer break, others argue that public concern is focused more on the economy and the sequester than on foreign military entanglements. They note a lack of visible anti-war protesting compared to previous eras.

congress· town hall· anti-war· pacifists· public opinion

32:35 What do you mean we killed who? Do you remember when, when we killed Gaddafi. I mean that is the land of unconfirmed... Yes! We came, we saw he died. You mean when they kill Assad she'd be laughing? Yeah she's gonna be laughing yeah party time exactly that's what she does. Oh we killed him what an idiot and i took her dresses Something like that. So I got a few clips here where we're going to be stuck on this topic for awhile today, but I did kind of ask you a question and i'll ask it again do you think that the American people will whether something happens or not will cause enough ruckus to have their representatives in Congress say no we are not going to do this?

33:29 Well, I think they already have. These congressmen all went home for the vacation and everyone that's talking from either home or they're already headed back... They've already gotten an earful And i think that is the reason why the president wanted to get them back home earlier Because you know it was supposed to be back on September 9th but he's trying to get him home this weekend so they can discuss this problem And I think the real reason is because these guys are just hearing it from the public going, what is this waste of money? And I'm sure they bring up stuff like the sequester and these mislials and what they caused. Really do you think there's anyone who... Is there anyone that goes to town hall meetings yes Do you don't think anyone just says hey uh I have an idea Uh hello can we stop killing people? I'm just not all for that right now No one does that They all talk about the money in the sequester Yeah you're probably right

34:23 How sad is that? Well I'm sure there's some, especially old-fashioned Democrats who are the ones that aren't completely out of power. That are kind of progressive and they don't like the idea of killing anybody. They're pacifists yeah i'm sure they bitch and moan but you know they probably have long hair in their throwbacks. And they wear dresses uh huh! Why are you tweeting during the show? That's not okay. I just tweeted once! You're answering a guy during the show... I'm not doing another one, it just happened to happen because you had me go retweet and this guy annoyed me. I should have said blocked. Blocked and report as spam. I do want to take us back quickly then I wanna hear what you found for us. I wanna take us back to March 21st 2011

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Libya Intervention Retrospective, Muammar Gaddafi, Policy Failure

The discussion revisits the 2011 military intervention in Libya, recalling the administration's promise that the transition would take "days, not weeks." Two years after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi, the hosts characterize the current state of Libya as a chaotic mess filled with weapons and instability. They use this as a cautionary example for the proposed intervention in Syria.

libya· muammar gaddafi· pan am 103· regime change· foreign policy

35:14 It is US policy that Gaddafi needs to go. But let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter weeks. Just wanted remind you of the days, not weeks last time that we did this We're still there and how's Libya by the way had that we've gotten rid of the evil dictator who was a mess not only responsible for Killing Americans in Pan Am flight 103, but also for you know killing his own people. They seem really happy don't they I see nothing but Disco balls and unicorns and rainbows and yes general joy It's okay. You're trying to interrupt me. That's why or

36:00 This day's not I want to mention the people out there that we're the only produced broadcast of Of anyone that kept keeps pointing this out. This is days, not weeks Everyone else just as you played it once and then they well whatever I'm just making a point. Yeah Well, that's bet you know That's because We are host and produce at the same time Yes And also we are only supported by the public yes In fact, uh... If I got brought my mail up right now, would it be a good time to thank our executive producers? Only if i can say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Well in the morning of you Adam Curry In the morning with all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in The water and also all the dames and knights out there Yes And in the morning to our human resources who have been in the chat room waiting diligently for the show To start noagenda stream calm no agenda chat net we played 12 minutes of Jimi Hendrix while you were getting your computer gear together

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Executive Producer Donations, Karma Generator App

The hosts thank the "Value for Value" producers and artists, specifically highlighting Joshua Predigrew's artwork for recent episodes. Major donations are acknowledged from Sir Roy of Ancona and Donald Silva. Additionally, a new "No Agenda Karma Generator" app created by listener Ron Boyd is promoted as a tool for the community to engage with show memes.

joshua predigrew· roy pierce· no agenda art· karma generator· donation

37:04 And we enjoyed that together. Thank you to our artists, Joshua Predigrew comes in again with the artwork from noagendaartgenerator.com so he did 542 and 543 And it was just good. He had the missile going, he had a little funny slogan with the font that was large enough. Yeah You know he said hey Syria here's to freedom coming! I think these artists are interesting because they all run in bursts They do yeah they do you're right They get on a roll and hit hit hit hit Well it's hard It's like being a musician you can't have hits all of time

37:47 Well, it's also like being us John. I mean we were twice a week We try to have the best podcast in the universe within you years ago. We had a bad show Yeah gee I remember it well yes Where was my harp sound? I can't find it all right Let's thank if you of the executive producers including Roy Pierce from Fort Pierce wait I'm just recalling Yes Yes, it was around episode 200. Okay It was 202 as a matter of fact Roy Pierce 1100 and eleven dollars and zero cents what?

38:25 Yeah. Wow! He came in as an instant night, asked listeners to watch the movie President's Analyst It was thought to be satire 45 years ago but turned out mostly true. Wow! Who is in this movie? I vaguely remember...I think this was with the guy who used to play Armand Flint I'm guessing. Take a look! I'm taking a look right now... The President's Analyst, 1967 satirical- this is from the Book of Knowledge Satirical comedy written by Theodore Flicker James Coburn? Okay that's a real actor Seeing the film as elements of political satire science fiction resembles many of the spy spoofs that proliferated in the mid 60s In the wake of the James Bond phenomenon Yeah our man Flint Wow John! We'll give you any- yeah it's right

39:18 Okay, the film's themes include modern ethics and privacy concerns specifically regarding the intrusion of the telecom system Working with the US government into the private lives of the country citizens. Oh my god This is so on my list It is funny it's a funny movie Although Colburn gets on your nerves because he plays this character, just a... I don't know. Well it's also the acting from the 60s. From the era? Yeah that's a little much. It's also the sets are really bright and all of those things. Okay cool! Anyway good. That's our tip for today for everybody out there. Thank you very much Sir Roy will be knighting you and does he have a specific name he wants for his knights? Is he on the list there do you see him? Oh yeah he is on the list. Sir Roy of Ancona is what he wants to be known as

40:09 That sounds reasonable. Donald Silva in Iwa Beach, Hawaii You know the guys that can do that joke $350 I have a note from him he mailed this check and he should be on them a night's list And because he had sent a bunch of checks yes Yeah He is on the list you send in two checks in 2011 one in 2012 and three this year so he's Getting up in the world today's donation of 350 my total will exceed a thousand. My ring size is 11 Please send me some good karma for better health I've been in the hospital three times last month for high blood pressure Oh, wow You have to go to the hospital for what are they gonna if it's really high and you know Then you get before your head explodes Thank you for producing the best podcasting universe No one this as entertaining and insightful about politics and the media as you two are my eyes have been opened

41:05 Good. He needs a karma first. Yeah, some health karma coming your way right now amigo! You've got karma. And go to NoahGeneration.com slash rings for your ring and we'll be knighting you later in the ceremony thank you for your contribution Onward Ryan Beck 333 33 from Rancho Cucamonga Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga greetings from Rancho Cucamonga As a six-year listener, I may very well be the king of the douchebags because i have never donated to the best podcast in the universe. After six years... How come Rancho Cucamonga sounds so familiar though? Rancho Cucamonga. I think we have another listener on Rancho Cucamonga

41:50 I'm doing so today plug my friend Ron Boyd's awesome new app the no agenda karma generator available in Apple's apps Yeah, I put it in the show notes on the last and last episode. It's pretty funny It's cool up Adam mentioned a lesson they show when my friend Ron came in as an associate executive producer But I strongly feel ron's app deserves a second plug all of the know agenda listeners need to go right now And download it Ron's app is outstanding as most of the jingles blah blah blah sorry to be such a cheap-ass bastard I may never be able to give at the level of Baron von Pell's mockers but i do hope to eventually become a knight and by the way he's the Grand Duke

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Listener Networking, Movie Scripts, Thomas Ballard

Executive Producer Thomas Ballard from Kentucky requests assistance from the No Agenda community to get his movie scripts read by Hollywood connections. He offers to donate 5% of any potential earnings back to the show. The hosts discuss the difficulty of breaking into the film industry and suggest he update his LinkedIn profile with his producer credit.

hollywood· movie scripts· networking· thomas ballard· kentucky

42:29 Thank you for all the informative and entertaining shows. Please give me a de-douching at a Pelosi jobs, jobs, jobs Absolutely and again it is the no agenda karma generator in the iTunes app store You've been de-douched Jobs, jobs, and jobs Let's vote for jobs! And he's got karma There ya go I threw a karma in there as a little extra bonus Thomas Ballard 3333 from Wingo Kentucky Hell of a job with the show Jensen now that I'm an executive producer it's time to network. I've been writing movie scripts for a couple years and i can't get the things read you're in Kentucky! John easy now

43:11 But wait a minute, now that if he puts his executive producer credit on his LinkedIn profile people might be more interested all of the sudden. If any No Agenda brothers or sisters know anyone with Hollywood connections I would deeply appreciate their help! I would even donate 5% of my bring home from any project coming from this to NO AGENDA. Don't you know movies never make money? That's not how you get the beginnings what you're gonna get right contact me at Thomas Beller Thomas underlined Ballard at Yahoo.com Also, if you need any more second half of the show type clips no he says we need we need more oh Yeah well The problem is that the first half is all-consuming

43:54 Yeah, the problem is when we have some situation like this... Well no but not even that. Stock is involved All you have to do it just listen to John McCain I mean he could fit in the second half as easy He's talking about kids pigs flying and please what more do you want? Now I guess this is Ion Emmerich Emmerich Ion IOAN and Brook Park Ohio another three I would say ion Could be. Maybe small stimulus for two dudes for their mediocre news reporting Had a long drive on Friday and listened to four shows had to slow down a few times I was laughing so bad, I couldn't keep the wheels straight Good Please send me some karma with a C Oh okay that's this one let me push the other button You've got Karma

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Homeschooling, Corporate Slavery, Red Fox Digitization

Producer Kevin Anderson shares his experience working 90 hours a week as a "corporate slave" while his family operates a small farm and homeschools their children in Michigan. Other donations are acknowledged from Jeff Yerke and Chuck Kohler, the latter of whom mentions a project to digitize the comedy material of Red Fox.

homeschooling· corporate work· red fox· milford michigan· value for value

44:41 You know of all the things that people say about the show when they say that they laughed I'm and that makes me the happiest It does wondering what they're laughing at Well, it's our jokes or you know We have some funny lines that they've just thrown in because we're light-hearted about not strangely enough. It's the stuff That we don't even know is funny That's good. Yeah, it's just you and me like being us and then people like you guys are hilarious Kevin Anderson $250 from Milford, Michigan. We're just getting by some homeschooling our kids and by the way Which is a great way to bring your kids up home school on A small farm while I work 80 to 90 hours as a salaried corporate slave excellent Why does the government fear individualism because they have nothing to offer us so they can't control us Adam keep hitting them in the mouth especially if they try to play their harmonica or kazoo

45:32 Those noises on no agenda are like diarrhea and a filet mignon. Please give me some family karma because my work schedule has put a strain on all of us." I think he's looking at you, John. Let me get out our harmonica then. You've got karma. Jeff Yerke conquered $202 and he says in the morning Napoleon and Ilya thanks for my wife Laura's karma shot shout shot she is on the road to a full recovery we need to do more to promote the value for value model of the no agenda health care all right apparently Ed was Laurie Laurie it was

46:21 Diagnosed with something then they found that she's cancer-free or something so he said no it came back completely negative There was nothing in there. You know this is and I don't know you know Jeff, but now I do Yeah But it sounded to me like one of those calls that you get from these a holes like oh your pre cancerous No yeah And they freak out for a week and then you gotta go to your biopsy and that's all that's not fun Yeah, no the whole thing is terrible. Yeah, but anyway Jeff's okay now And as Laurie, it was more important. Yes I like Jeff indeed We're working on this project to digitize all the Red Fox material from yeah, yeah 60s Yeah hi John and Adam This is Chuck Kohler $201 33 cents Mountain Terrace Washington

47:07 Was riding my bike into downtown Seattle over the Fremont Bridge They have a daily counter of how many brought bikes cross and it was three three Yeah, must have been an omen yeah so he gave us some Some contributions and we're in business. He says He says fuck fucking long handwriting. You had some bitches and bones. He printed this note I All right, Misty Tallman $201. That sounds like a porn name if I ever heard one by the way. It's a great name yeah. Misty Tallman hey!

47:49 $200 and one cent Colorado Springs this donations my husband's request for his birthday gift You would really appreciate if you gave him a shot. Did you get the other birthday thing? I sent in an email Yes, we got Whitney in Chicago Yeah, I got Wendy the reason that we did miss Wendy in Chicago is because Wendy who gives some money later She came in the mail. I didn't pick up last Wednesday like the place was closed Oh Uh, this donation is my husband's request for his birthday gift. He would really appreciate it if you gave him a shout out for his birthday which we do... Which is today. Um.. Now why- now why do you think she gave us 201 penny? I mean I'll happily drop it in there. I'm just curious why one penny if there was anything in the note. She never says! Her husband is Joel Tallman. Tall man. Misty. Misty. Misty. Hold on let me tell ya that. She does three ways she's Misty Tallman

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Tokyo Meetup, Viscountess of Tokyo, Travel Plans

Misty Tallman and "Daymastered" (the Viscountess of Tokyo) contribute to the show, with the latter offering to host a No Agenda meetup in Tokyo in March. One host expresses a strong dislike for Tokyo, citing small food portions and the difficulty of using chopsticks, while the other encourages the international community building.

tokyo· japan· meetup· daymastered· travel

47:07 Was riding my bike into downtown Seattle over the Fremont Bridge They have a daily counter of how many brought bikes cross and it was three three Yeah, must have been an omen yeah so he gave us some Some contributions and we're in business. He says He says fuck fucking long handwriting. You had some bitches and bones. He printed this note I All right, Misty Tallman $201. That sounds like a porn name if I ever heard one by the way. It's a great name yeah. Misty Tallman hey!

47:49 $200 and one cent Colorado Springs this donations my husband's request for his birthday gift You would really appreciate if you gave him a shot. Did you get the other birthday thing? I sent in an email Yes, we got Whitney in Chicago Yeah, I got Wendy the reason that we did miss Wendy in Chicago is because Wendy who gives some money later She came in the mail. I didn't pick up last Wednesday like the place was closed Oh Uh, this donation is my husband's request for his birthday gift. He would really appreciate it if you gave him a shout out for his birthday which we do... Which is today. Um.. Now why- now why do you think she gave us 201 penny? I mean I'll happily drop it in there. I'm just curious why one penny if there was anything in the note. She never says! Her husband is Joel Tallman. Tall man. Misty. Misty. Misty. Hold on let me tell ya that. She does three ways she's Misty Tallman

48:42 Yeah, I think that sounds good. This won't be new to NOAgenda listeners who know that data mining is used for marketing strategies to brainwash consumers. A bit heavy on the do good side and sorry Adam, no sex here but it's a good primer for NA freshers. Why bother reading it then? Dave Master, the Viscountess of Tokyo. You know Miss Mickey

49:19 Has she's organized like it does like if she's got a show in Tokyo and we're going in March And we're gonna be staying with the I think day mastered has kindly offered her one of her many vestibules It's not what is called the vestibule for us to stay and as long as we like and And she wants to organize No agenda meetup in Tokyo. Oh great That's sushi. You don't sound very like happy well, I mean did you we have like three? Tokyo listeners she says that she said she looked at the map She said it was a lot more than you think it is Well maybe I've looked to the map recent what sounds like a lot of fun. I think you should Take advantage are you do I send some jealousy yeah? I wasn't invited who said you can't come

50:13 I hate Tokyo. I really hate Tokyo, you have no idea. Let me just write this down... 5345... And the portions are so small! I hate those twigs! Can't eat with them. Thank you Viscountess of Tokyo Daymastered. Lovely donation and suggestion there again that is the The the curtain by Patrick Ord I got to put that in this show notes as well interesting. Thank these and all of our producers first contributing to show 544 and You remember to go to Dvorak org slash na channel Dvorak comm slash NA or you can go to the Noah Jenna nation website and

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Samsung TV App, Gmail How-To, Demolition Derby

The show announces a new Samsung TV and Blu-ray app for accessing archived episodes. A guide for managing Gmail's "Promotions" tab is shared to help listeners find the newsletter. Additionally, photos of Dallas Spongberg's "No Agenda 33" demolition derby car are featured on the show's blog, sparking a discussion on the best vehicles for derby competition, such as a 1977 Lincoln.

samsung tv· gmail· demolition derby· dallas spongberg· blog curry

51:05 Or the Noah Jenner Show website and click on the donate button. You'll find another page there, places where you can help us out But the funny thing is whenever you close your eyes before you go to bed...you know that moment when you're just starting to fall into that sleep and you're just starting to drift away? Devorak dot org slash N A You gonna wake up? You gonna have to go donate Couple of PR mentions John We have a Samsung TV and Bluray app Did you know this? No, I'm glad to hear it. Yeah do you have a Samsung TV no okay but the guys who I guess the guys who make the twit app did this and they did nice little... what's interesting is the description of the show on the app itself but there's a link in the show notes so i'm not even gonna read that to you John will like it uh it's a free app no agenda show and you can use it on your tv your samsung tv or your blu-ray

52:04 And you can use that to get the live as well as the archived episodes of the show. I want to thank Sir Paul Couture of NoahArtGenerator.com, a link in the show notes as well, to his Gmail how-to which he did a really good job with screenshots and arrows and circles and stuff so if you are still not receiving or if your confused this how-to Get your emails out of the Gmail promotion tab Specifically the Noah Jenna newsletter that will that's a good little how-to That'll help you if you can go to blog curry calm for a moment there John sir Dallas Spongberg once a year his son, Dallas Does something very special for the show? I get to log that curry. Yeah blog curry calm and

52:54 And you'll see their demo derby and you have to click on the link to reveal the pictures. His son Dallas participated in the demolition derby once again with a NOA-GENDA 33 mobile, magic number shut up slave. It's a beaut! Unfortunately I think he got a really hard hit and the battery like flew out and that he was done... He was out of the race Yeah, it doesn't take much. He's got all the memes on there shut up slave no agenda hit him in the mouth get a life somebody That might that might have happened after after the crash get a life what he loser I Love it though. That's fantastic that he does that I just wish you know our car would hang in Probably sponsor if you demo derby cars well What is there to sponsor?

53:43 You have to buy him a tire usually or something. I had a perfectly good Range Rover we could've thrown into one of these things. Oh, that would have been great car for a demo derby. Yeah! I've always wanted to drive in a demo derby. You have to drive backwards, the reverse direction of your engine essentially. So you're always ramming people from the back side which i think would be best car for that would be I believe a 77 Lincoln I think it'd be a perfect car for that. Well, the problem is people always go for the axles because you know that people think is the engine you have to disable but It's really the axle once you can make this thing break an axle then you know You're out as well

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Freedom Controller Beta, Social Media Alternatives

A beta test for the "Freedom Controller" is announced, intended as a way for users to migrate away from mainstream social media platforms like Facebook and Google+. Live listeners are given a secret phrase to sign up on the Cart Curry website. The project is described as a non-monetized effort to promote digital independence.

freedom controller· facebook· google plus· beta test· cart curry

54:28 Yeah, and I think the 77 Lincoln may be prone to axle breakage. Let's assume somebody hits you. Got a big 460 engine to be driving around like a maniac true it takes some take some effort also the freedom controller is now open And not good. Yeah, I'm what I'm gonna do is before So only for people who are listening to the podcast live you'll be able to sign up go to cart curry comm CART carts curry calm and you'll need these secret word That's the one I'm going to change after the show so if you're listening to the podcast You're not going to be able to sign up for our beta Only if you're listening live right now and the secret word of course is in the morning It's not a word

55:14 Yeah, it's one. It's all one word no spaces in the morning So that technically is a phrase but it's all one word and then how you say it all one word all lowercase Oh, no spaces yeah That's what you do okay? All right well let's take us out of this segment Okay, I shall do that Please do this one thing for us. It's the formula propagate it our formula is this we go out We hit people in them out Now the freedom controller by the way is you know, there's no money in it this It's just a way to get off Facebook and off G+. That's all I'm trying to do What? Uh-uh. I think it was a great idea. I wish everyone would just get off Facebook and g+, without needing any coaxing Yeah well that's good luck with that. That's not gonna happen now they need they need free trinkets Oh look, it's free

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Presidential Proclamations, September Awareness Months, Preparedness

President Obama issued several proclamations for September 2013, designating it as National Preparedness Month, National Wilderness Month, and awareness months for various cancers and childhood obesity. The hosts mock the inclusion of "shootings" and "cyber incidents" in the preparedness rhetoric. Adam Curry also notes his upcoming 49th birthday on September 3rd.

labor day· ovarian cancer· childhood obesity· national preparedness month· birthday

56:22 By the way, John. Like like like I need to uh... Plus me We need to uh... I'll plus you This is a very important month The president has proclaimed let me see one two three four five six seven eight nine proclamations for the month of September Starting off with Labor Day which is when all working Americans get one day off Guaranteed, guaranteed. By presidential proclamation September is National Ovarian Cancer Awareness Month It is also by presidential proclamation National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery month By presidential proclamation National Childhood Obesity Awareness month By presidential proclamation the month of September is National Wilderness Month Oh this is a good one

57:19 By Presidential Proclamation, National Childhood Cancer Awareness Month. Yay! This is a great month to be born. Oh wait by Presidential Proclamation, National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Feel your prostate John how we feeling? And then finally this has got to be my favorite I'll read this one Time and again, America faces crises that test our readiness and challenge our resolve. From natural disasters like hurricanes, tornadoes and floods to shootings cyber incidents and even acts of terrorism While my administration is working tirelessly to avert national tragedies it is every American's responsibility to be prepared by planning for emergencies Individuals can protect themselves in their families while also contributing to their community's resilience

58:06 During National Preparedness Month, we refocus our efforts on readying ourselves. Our families, our neighbors and our nation for any crisis we may face. I like the way they slipped a cyber thing in there. Isn't that great? Shootings! I like the shootings. And by the way... It just says from floods to shootings. Oh what's that another shooting man don't worry about it. It's a shooting. Of course be prepared is the motto of The Boy Scouts That is The Boy Scout marching song So there you have it. Who I now have a huge lawsuit, the pedo barrel lawsuit against the Boy Scouts. Yeah... So anyway and is also of course the month in which i was born in 1964 I will be celebrating on Tuesday

58:52 This coming Tuesday? This coming Tuesday is my 40th. Are you going to put your name on the list? No, I'm not gonna congratulate myself! Yes! I demand it! Okay... Adam... Thanks to John... You say, I wish you a happy birthday. Okay. You're gonna be 50. No no no no no 49. No, you're gonna be 50 Next year Yeah You're gonna be 60. That's wishful thinking, but okay you'll make it. John is like crap if he doesn't make 60 what am I going to do? What is my income gonna be? I can cruise for a month or something but without curry now what are we gonna do? Believe me I worry about you too

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

British Parliament Voting Procedures, John Kerry's "Tell"

The hosts examine the unique voting procedures of the British Parliament, including the "unlocking" of doors for division lobbies. They also discuss a perceived "tell" in Secretary of State John Kerry's body language, claiming he sticks his tongue out after telling a lie, which they find "freaky" and "reptilian."

british parliament· voting· john kerry· body language· lizard tongue

59:38 Let's play a couple clips. Please! Let's get the British Parliament nose vote out of the way so we can hear them yelling and screaming. The Ayes to the right, 272. The Noes to the left 285. Thank you. Why can't we have that? No, I Congress. That is cool. Can you just imagine like Boehner going? No he's not he's going Yes if you play it let play long here actually actually hear the word be saying order

1:00:30 Well, it doesn't really matter what he's saying. It's hilarious. Unlock? I don't know what the unlock means. Someone's gonna have to explain it, but there's somebody standing there and then when he says unlock they leave They're not allowed out until the vote is that it? I don't know what the deal is Maybe lock them into place The doorkeeper... Oh no! It says right here unlock The doorkeepers then unlocked the door to the division lobbies Yeah so I guess they're kept in until uh.. Until the vote is counted yeah We should do that at school! Unlock

1:01:25 Alright, now you can leave. And so I decided that well what would be the absolute best thing because the guy's a slow talker and yeah, it's some issues Have you noticed? The lizard tongue on that dude. Oh, yeah He sticks out all love and is a little bitty pointy thing and not and I have creepy I've learned from the agency professionals That when you're evaluating someone talking whenever they stick their tongue out That's usually right after the lie

1:02:14 And if you really look at when he's talking, and that tongue... it's freaky. Could you imagine like tonguing that guy? That's a really horrible thought Well, thanks for bringing it up. My pleasure So yeah that's interesting because I was It's like a tell It's an interesting tell We should pay more attention to it But so I decided well what would be the only thing that would make sense in a way to sweeten his little speech? Here is two minutes of Kerry delivering his commentary about this crisis in Syria

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

John Kerry, Syria Evidence, Drone Strike Comparison

Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a speech urging the public to read unclassified intelligence regarding the chemical attacks in Damascus. The hosts play a remixed version of the speech that overlays Kerry's humanitarian concerns with reports of civilian casualties from U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan. They highlight the perceived hypocrisy of condemning Syrian violence while conducting a drone campaign.

john kerry· syria· intelligence community· drone strikes· pakistan

1:02:51 President Obama has spent many days now consulting with Congress and talking with leaders around the world about the situation in Syria. Last night, the president asked all of us on his national security team to consult with the leaders of Congress as well – including leadership of congressional national security committees. And he asked us to consult about what we know regarding the horrific chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs last week. I will tell you that as someone who spent nearly three decades in the United States Congress, I know that consultation is the right way for a president and to approach a decision of when and how if to use military force. It's important to ask tough questions

1:03:45 and get the tough answers before taking action, not just afterwards. And I believe as President Obama does that it is also important to discuss this directly with the American people. That's our responsibility. We talk to the citizens who have entrusted all of us in the administration and the Congress with a responsibility for their security. That's why this morning's release of our government's unclassified estimate of what took place in Syria is so important. Its findings are as clear as they are compelling,

1:04:27 I'm not asking you to take my word for it. Read for yourself, everyone, those listening all of you read for yourselves the evidence from thousands of sources, evidence that is already publicly available And read for yourselves the verdict reached by our intelligence community about the chemical weapons attack the Assad regime inflicted on opposition and on opposition-controlled or contested neighborhoods in the Damascus suburbs, on the early morning of August 21st. So what part did you actually sweeten John?

1:05:10 Couldn't quite figure out the... That was pretty good. Could have been 40 seconds shorter, probably. Uh yeah, probably. I got something kinda similar that our producer Drew did and you just tell me when you think it's enough but i thought he did a very good job something similar but of course not with the finesse doing a laugh track in the right spot is you know that takes kind of uh some expertise 12 channels on that baby As a father I can't get the image out of my head of a man who held up this dead child Wailing while chaos swirled around it. The images of entire families, dead in their beds without a drop of blood or even a visible wound bodies torting spasms

1:06:01 human suffering that we can never ignore. This is so sick! The drone campaign in Pakistan has killed dozens of civilians who've gone to rescue victims or were attending funerals. Anyone who could claim that an attack of this staggering scale could be contrived, fabricated needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass. Between 282 and 535 civilians have been reported as killed including more than 60 children Everything these image I'll play it as the end of show clip. I like it It's good yeah, but if it goes on for that three more minutes. I'll play at the end of show clip Yeah What what? I love what he did though is is He overlaid the talking points of like that of them of the dingbat and carry you know it's and the banjo That kind of does it for me? Stacks of dead children ding-a-ling ding-a-ling ding-a-ling ding

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Kevin Rudd, Australia Election, WMD Slip

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is featured in a clip where he appears to stumble over his words regarding weapons of mass destruction. The hosts discuss the difficulty of obtaining high-quality clips from Australian media during their current election cycle and transition to analyzing American media commentary.

kevin rudd· australia· weapons of mass destruction· election· pbs news hour

1:06:52 Of course, you can always have the moron down under. Kevin Rudd. Someone finally got the clip for me! I said at the outset that our intention is that Australia would be represented by the Foreign Minister, but I would continue to be in consultation with global leaders on this question. We are in uncertain times, that's just the truth of it. It'd be quite wrong of me to pretend to any of you that these are normal times. It is not normal for a government in the world to take weapons of mass destruction... Can you believe he actually slipped on that one?

1:07:30 Wow, what an idiot clip. What an idiot well the quality is but it's rough getting stuff from I don't know what's going on? I mean we're trying to follow the election there But it's like you usually can get your stuff from ABC Yeah, Estrella broadcasting corporation their they have a website that yeah, I've gotten clips from yeah, but this one was unfindable and for some reason. So there's these two guys on our nation's treasure PBS news hour, SOA and Shields and Brooks. Brooks is the guy from the New York Times and he represents Republicans and Shields is Obama bot or the O-bot we'll talk about I'm sure later in the show yes

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

David Brooks, Mark Shields, International Law Debate

On PBS NewsHour, commentators David Brooks and Mark Shields debated the merits of striking Syria. Brooks, appearing nervous, argued that the U.S. must act to maintain the "non-proliferation regime," while Shields pointed out the lack of a coalition and the "poisoning of the well" from the Iraq War. The hosts criticize Brooks for ignoring that a strike without UN approval would violate international law.

david brooks· mark shields· pbs news hour· international law· mustard gas

1:08:21 So, ah. It's okay... Actually it's not okay. It's just not okay. No because it's okay to be self-aware but it is very embarrassing for quite a while. Anyways! Whatevers We've got Brooks, a bunch of clips. Here's what I've seen...I've never seen him do this He looked extremely nervous he wasn't in the studio he couldn't be in the studio because Shields would be looking at him and he was playing the role of an O-Bot even though he is Republican but it wasn't just that! He was delivering the talking points of one of the intelligence agencies I realized watching this he was so nervous about it And doing it so poorly cause I don't think they'd call on him much

1:09:06 because you know he's not like Woodward who is like does all these books and he just seemed upset but I guess the call comes in, your working for these guys. And they said look here is what we have to do These are the talking points. You got to get them across, you know gassing their own people massacre We gotta we gotta get these missiles launched because of this Raytheon. The stock is too high We got a blow some cork Well I don't know if as awful that regime is I'm not sure we necessarily want to topple it given the alternatives which is anarchy The second thing is, they're decision makers. So you're trying to change their calculus if you raise the cost of doing what they are doing there's a chance they won't do it again that does happen and has happened many times in world history that you raise the costs and don't do it again now there is a chance that we'll do it again And then will have to make another call Do we want to escalate? That clearly danger

1:09:59 But I do think the idea if the US says something about weapons of mass destruction, whether it's in Iran or Syria and we do nothing then the entire non-proliferation regime which the U.S has basically been leading for the past 70 to 80 years that begins to fray badly and costs down the road are much worse So raise the cost for Assad and then see what happens Wow! WOW! And you're right he is doing it very poorly because he didn't even get Iraq in there He's very nervous. I've never seen him so nervous, he's like oh God I have to do this and again why would you say well we're not trying to regime change? We're just going throw a few missiles there. It's only gonna blow up land it's just the runway no one is gonna die! So Shields who was beside himself listening to this guy because its the arguments that he should be using took the other side saying

1:10:54 It's an upside down world now. At one point he says I think you're completely wrong and it was a very strange debate because but play the second clip and we hear where Shields comes back, this thing went on for a long time so yeah I have to pretty short shorten it up quite a bit What about that Mark? Well I mean I'm just not sure Judy how the costs are being raised by simply hitting him with missiles one time, twice. What's been emphasized over and over again is how short this is going to be it's not open-ended its a very brief... It took days not weeks We've gone through this what the president is fighting that exactly what Prime Minister Cameron is fighting and that is the legacy the poisoning of the well from Iraq and it only 11 years ago this very week

1:11:42 That the vice president of states that I can show you they have weapons and mass destruction that Saddam Hussein is going to use them against us Against our allies and against our friends what I find interesting. Is that no there's no Libya talk here No one is sitting in there all it's all of course, you know about Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice And The Project for New American Century and Bush etc but we're talking on 2011 only two years ago We went through this in Libya and so far the result is weapons everywhere, dead ambassador. It's a mess it's a fucking mess is what it is and no one brings that up I don't understand well no I do of course

1:12:27 But, from... obviously. You feign! I feign it! We feign these things just to make a point. So he goes on so there's more and more of this and i'm watching the guy said this is not sounding like their same guy and then when he does clip three and he drops this little bomb in there you go oh my god I would say also that if we are in a period of permanent withdrawal from the Middle East, we'll have what has happened over the last year in the Middle East which is a devolution for the Arab Spring to the Arab Winter. In retrospect and I was not a big champion at this time but John McCain and Lindsey Graham had a point early on in this program or in progress of the Civil War that if we'd been more interventionist back when the opposition was more moderate, a little bit more controllable, that would've been a good time to act

1:13:16 Wow. So he jumps on the Lindsey Graham John McCain bandwagon? Nice! Yeah, that's-that's the way to do it And so finally we have the last clip of Brooks where he's just, he has already sold himself down the river. He is not even in this studio at Yale and he just has to finish I guess with this But what about Mark's point about having more of a coalition? Having more countries? Great Britain is now no going to be on board A number of other countries have said they won't join How much does it matter that there aren't going to be many allies? And certainly, at least apparently there won't be a UN.

1:13:58 uh... signing off on this militarily doesn't matter at all there's no you can find some british and french sailors in stick them on the thing but it they don't really have much of a different forces that are only the capacity to do this as for international legitimate wait is john this weekend i'm gonna go find me some french sailors and stick him on the thing just stick him on a thing, he takes normally if it was actually brooks talking he would bring up The simple fact that it is illegal by international law that we've signed on to, to do this. It is totally illegal and the funny thing is were scolding Syria because they're illegal weapons of gas but we are ourselves violating the international... he doesn't even touch nobody touches that I got two words for you

1:14:52 Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's what the words I got for you, but that's nothing nothing compared to the danger of grabbing a couple of French soldiers and sticking them on a thing And i'll tell ya I'm glad I'm wearing my dress as for international legitimacy Listen, gassing your own people is not a close call as far as I'm concerned. That demands a response and that was pretty much settled since World War One. Wasn't it the Brits who used gas in World War One? Mustard Gas! Yeah it was the Brits right?! I think so too. Countries don't want to sign on and by the way a lot do wanna sign on and support the idea

1:15:32 That doesn't seem morally problematic when you've got the atrocity and the case this clear. To me, the tough call... And I agree with Mark on this. The tough call is not whether some gross violation of international law was done. The tough call is whether what we do, lobbying a few cruise missiles will do any good and I'm perfectly persuadable that it'll no good and lead to harm. But that's not the right talking point! Lobbyed a few? These are pinpoint accuracies The idea that we should do nothing, that international law has not been grossly violated. That to me is a debate that's pretty clear. Oh man... I mean i'd be throwing stuff at the TV at this point There are some meta things going on here that I want to point out John and maybe they'll help us

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Geopolitics of Energy, Saudi Arms Sale, Gun Import Restrictions

The hosts argue that the Syrian conflict is actually a struggle over the "free flow of energy," involving Israel's Leviathan gas field and competition with Russian gas. They note a $1.2 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia and a new executive action by Vice President Joe Biden that prevents the re-importation of military-grade firearms into the U.S., which they interpret as a scheme to boost domestic gun sales.

leviathan field· fracking· saudi arabia· joe biden· gun control

1:16:15 Hone in a little bit and I think you and I are pretty much in agreement We know that this is as the president misspoke At the beginning of the week. This is really about the free flow of energy in the region now we know that That's really what it's about. We know that Israel has, you know It's now become a net positive supplier with the Leviathan field up through Cyprus You know, it's competing with the Russians We know that our fracking is supposed to compete with there were the Russians with their Russian gas Of course our fracking isn't working out too well, you know. So there's all kinds of... It's a geopolitical struggle which has nothing to do with so-called gassing of a couple kids Here is some meta information from the Federal Register Arms sale notification and this is end of July Dear Mr Speaker

1:17:06 Pursuant to the reporting requirements section 36 b1 of the arms export control act as amended we are forwarding here with Transmittal number one three dot three eights concerning Department of the Air Force's proposed letters of offer and acceptance To the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for defense articles and services estimated to cost 1.2 billion dollars so We had a nice little sale And this of course they always have to you know write down the specifications. Major defense equipment, zero billion other 1.2 billion total 1.2 billion so we sent some other over there I love that I hope it's loved under the other

1:17:50 Now the thing that is, oh by the way and this also kind of happened while we weren't paying attention. We're not doing buybacks okay? Once you buy our crap you're taking our crap and this was slipped into a little ditty that Joe O Biden came out with where part of this executive action which is not in order it's another interesting term the administration has come up with executive action where you can no longer register certain types of firearms to a corporation or non-profit. It has to be an individual who could be background checked, but who gives a crap about that? This is what blew me away! The second action we're taking is to prevent military grade firearms from being reimported back in the United States. Listen carefully... As all of you know

1:18:36 we sell military-grade firearms. And by the way, we're quite proud of it! We're very happy to sell crap to other people that kill people. Military firearms to our allies... That's right, to kill our enemies. ...to our around the world and those firearms are not able to be imported back into United States without US government approval So basically We've said, all sales are final. You can't send them back! No I think there's actually...I heard this and it always harkens back to my... I had a clip about four years ago you'll remember it where the Mexicans are confiscating all the guns from these guys and then grinding them up

1:19:27 And at the same time, and this is a point I've made a couple of times on the show. They grind up all these weapons that they confiscate these submachine guns and everything else and then they bitch and moan that they don't have any weapons to fight the cartels well you just ground up a bunch of weapons you could have used to fight the cartels but so I always thought that was this is about one thing and one thing only more sales more sales especially domestically. You don't want people, you know what? This is what I think a lot of this gun act besides trying to get Republican women to vote Democrat... More sales! You, you really they can't do it yet but they want to make it so its illegal for me to sell you my gun. Yeah exactly That means that you have to go buy another gun thats brand new Yes! Its more sales More sales? This is a scam

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Prince Bandar, Vladimir Putin, Global Gas Pricing

Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia reportedly met with Russian President Vladimir Putin to offer a deal: if Russia abandons its support for Syria, Saudi Arabia would cooperate on global gas pricing to benefit Russia. Putin reportedly rejected the offer. Putin also publicly challenged the Obama administration to present its "classified" evidence of chemical weapon use to the UN.

prince bandar· vladimir putin· saudi arabia· russia· natural gas

1:20:14 Yeah, I love how Joe does it though. He comes across so funny Now here is the thing regarding Syria that I found rather interesting this is reported in the telegraph of the United Kingdom's Gitmo Nation East that Prince Bandar is now on the scene So a prince Banda been Sultan also known as Bond are Bush in the annals of history and He was the Saudi Arabian ambassador and he essentially has been kind of the go-to messenger guy whenever we were doing our nasty business in the region. And there wasn't even rumors that he was dead, so he's made a resurgence We haven't really heard from him since 2008 All of a sudden he is back and the message in the press Is that he offered a deal to Russia

1:21:06 He said to Putin he said look, you know if you just let Saudi Arabia go I mean if you let Syria go then You know We'll cut a deal with you and we'll work with you on your global gas pricing and then you will give you whatever you want And I find this to be Very interesting. I've not heard anyone in the press here talk about this that Bhandar is back Have have you what have you seen regarding this John nothing? Hmm So here I'll read from... I'm so stunned, stunned I say that Mukhtar Mukhtar is still floating around. I think that was shot! Makes no sense. And this is being reported in Middle Eastern press

1:21:50 So here is the quote, let us examine how to put together a unified Russian-Saudi strategy on the subject of oil. The aim is to agree on the price of oil and production quantities that keep the price stable in global oil markets, is what Prince Bandar reportedly said to Putin Now it is important to Putin I think more for gas than for oil but they keep that price up there because Russia still needs a lot of money you know for the process they're in and their rebooting essentially and it looks like Putin turned it down, he turned down any deal. And I have here some quotes from Putin although its too bad the guy doesn't speak English

1:22:35 Downer because we always get the you know like the translated stuff right I think Putin would be hilarious if he spoke English Yeah, well the translations are always all kind of good as Lee is that? I would like to address Obama as a Nobel Peace Prize laureate Before using force in Syria it would be good to think about future casualties Putin told Russian news agencies and Vladivostok during a tour of his country's flood-stricken Far East Russia is urging you to think twice before making a decision on an operation in Syria Let's see what else did he say here? He says the Obama administration claims that proof exists, but it is classified and cannot be presented to anybody This is below criticism. This is plain disrespect for the partners Vladimir said we know of course that this is a war by proxy with Russia and

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Obama-Bots, Apathy, Marijuana Policy

During a dinner with "Obama-bot" friends, one host observed a total apathy toward the Syrian conflict. Instead, the group focused on the Department of Justice's decision not to challenge marijuana legalization in Washington and Colorado. The host argues that this "inward draw" and refusal to discuss foreign policy indicates a breakdown in the ability of supporters to process the administration's actions.

obama-bots· apathy· marijuana· tenth amendment· eric holder

1:23:34 you know if now and I'm going to say, I have a feeling John that the president is going to get his permission from Congress. I think it's going to happen Well that would be well with guys like Peter King and these other apologists for everything No its not that its the apathy of the American people I don't know I dont think so Oh oh no Well, I'll put myself down for no. I'll tell you why? I saw it at our dinner Oh here we go Now I want to preface by saying that the friends we have over there are our true friends They know that I speak about our dinners on the show and they know that I categorize them as Obama bots

1:24:20 What was that which we can actually shorten the robots? I really like yeah, well. I had to do all bots because I was running out of Twitter characters so Just an old bot you saw the tweet of the picture at the table uh-uh no Mickey did a great job Go check that out Yeah So so we're gonna say we're gonna go into that before we go into any more Syrian stuff We're gonna talk about this know let's lets Do you want to do it now me just to break it up? No? I think is a good time to take a break and going to the robots Oh bought stuff I bring up my notes. So first of all, uh...I tried a couple times during the course of the evening to spark-up the Syrian conversation Could not do it John! Could not do it! Why would you? What's your theory on this? Well this is why I started as a complete apathy Tired of protesting Did my protesting when I was 20 I'm just repeating things I've heard

1:25:14 And and like almost you know, it's like trying to distract the conversation to things. Like hey How about the administration not going after Washington in Colorado for weed? Huh? I'm not kid you not a kid you not yeah, I could not get a Conversation about Syria started now called the Tenth Amendment with and I did bring that up and Why is everybody so yeah, I saw this happen on the west coast there was a but oh that's great It's great that they're not gonna bust the chops of Washington and Colorado over marijuana They don't have any right to in the first place except the holder actually said quite the opposite

1:25:57 Oh yeah, well of course. What do you think he's going to say? I marked up the statement from the Justice Department in the show notes You can take a look at it But essentially it says This memorandum is not intended to does not and may not be relied upon To create any right substantive or procedural enforceable by law yada yada yada yada Essentially It says Yeah No if If you can't keep your people under control we're gonna come in and bust some chops That's literally what this document says Like if you have, you got people selling the miners when they come in and we're gonna move across state border. We're going to occupy your state because heaven forbid we know that nobody in Oregon wants to get any of that dope from those people in Washington. It's nuts especially around the Portland area. So as the evening progressed... Oh by the way as a quick aside I did bring up with our friend The Brain Professor here at UT

1:26:55 You know the thing we talked about on the show with the stunning new revelation Where they were able to control one guy's brain control this finger across the Internet remember this. We talked about it on Thursday Yeah Here's what the professor said parlor trick I like that yeah, so I thought that was yeah Imagine yeah, no part of his parlor trick whatever he says part of trick big deal same thing oh So the feeling that I got is that the O-Bots are drawing inward and they're only going to be concerned with themselves. They're locking out, it's kind of like sticking your fingers in you're going... not happening! That is a witness the conversation about 23andMe came up

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

23andMe, Genetic Testing, Transhumanism

The conversation at a social gathering turned to 23andMe, the genetic testing company founded by Anne Wojcicki (ex-wife of Google's Sergei Brin). The hosts critique the "quantified self" movement and the transhumanist agenda, mocking the idea that "it's just math" and that genetic data will allow people to live to 150. They view this obsession with personal health data as a distraction from political reality.

23andme· dna· sergei brin· transhumanism· quantified self

1:27:48 Are you familiar with 23andMe? Oh yeah, everybody's a big fan of this. Right! So now I know that our friends are... No, I found out that my great-uncle's uncle's grandfather's father's father was a Visigoth and he is subject to toenail fungus. It's a disease so I've got to really be careful I don't get toenail fungus from by genes my jeans okay so this is almost almost exactly what was said except it was you know I shared my DNA this is this is the social network you see so I've shared my DNA I found out on black

1:28:35 So anyway, so this goes on for a while and I'm like okay and it's like well if you find out that you had BRCA And we all know that's the Angelina Jolie breast cancer gene patented. You know did well of course? I'd have a mastectomy. I'm like okay. You've got to stop now You know it's like what I'm missing from your social network is you where where is the you know You know, like I'm going to live a happy fulfilled life and no there's none of that. It's all exactly what you said don't get the toenail fungus they don't eat oysters. You know? I'm not kidding John literally. Yeah it's horrible it's like they're making worse than all the personality disorders you possibly have this has got to be way beyond anything you can naturally develop.

1:29:29 At a certain point it's like, you know... You're going to be doing this. You're going to have your D and Adam right? And you're going to do this because in medicine it's going to be tailored for you if they're going to make medication and so I'm like what I'm gonna live forever and then here's the quote from the professor It's just math What yeah, so everything in the universe Every way you related everything that you have everything that you might have every way to fix. You it's just math right? And I'm like well no Show me the calculation No, and we got into a heated argument Like know it's just math We haven't been able to do all the calculations yet But you will live forever It's just math

1:30:21 I don't know where this live for everything has gotten so far. There's a billboard off of highway 880 going south through Oakland that says the first person to live to be 150 is alive today, indicating somebody... This is not good! This is not a good development Have you ever seen a person who was 110? You don't want to tongue him. It's the whole thing, it's the dress anyway so what I noticed is that

1:30:59 The this is kind of the directions it's headed. It's the quantified self the transhumanist agenda But they also sticking your fingers in you're like I look I protested against all this I'm done It's not my turn. I didn't do it and I'm uh, I'm going to check my DNA And and by the way, I got its just math org. I had to get that one. I don't like oh I'll find a reason for this website eventually And I think that this is the apathy, it's just there. It was just math dot org? Yeah not .com but .org was available yeah still yeah it's pretty good yeah but that is the new thing we've had

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Political Identity, Sub-Personalities, Method Acting

The hosts discuss a theory that political figures like Barack Obama utilize "sub-personalities" to appeal to different audiences, comparing it to method acting. They suggest that supporters are "shorted out" by the contradictions in the President's actions (e.g., being a constitutional lawyer who maintains a "kill list"). The discussion touches on the social pressure to identify with a specific political party.

method acting· schizophrenia· sub-personality· barack obama· political party

1:31:41 It's science. Well, we okay let's take a look at this objectively first of all we have these robots who are out there by the droves and they all voted this guy in for all kinds of reasons none of them were fulfilled just a lot of promises and no apparently they're related that we're all african-americans now Yeah, well that's a good thing. Well actually technically I think there is some truth to that So whatever the case it's beside the point they have given up literally given up hope yeah uh... and i mean i can just see this again i think if we would book of the beast in the garden about Nazi Germany you mean in the Garden Of The Beast? In The Garden Of The Beast Don't eat your seed corn It's that period where people were just like putting up with uh... this encroachment and then

1:32:29 Giving up. Essentially these people just gave up! That is what I saw Yeah, they gave up. They gave up. I'm done I've had it. And you know they want to live to be what 150 but they just as soon die in a totalitarian system? Well the thing is, where was... so these are some of the same people who had all the fire for the Texas abortion clinic legislation, the abortion legislation who were all in and jumping around and now when it comes I think it's because they don't have the information or it's too confusing. Even if you say, do you understand? You got the Sunnis, you got the Shias then you've got the crazy Salafis who were thrown in by Saudi Arabia this goes back to the Ottoman Empire this started in 700 and then... They can't process it for some reason It doesn't take much to process

1:33:33 arming ourselves to the, to the hilt and then waltzing over to them Mediterranean launching 1.4 million dollar missiles by the dozens at some essentially a country that can't defend itself to punish them did how what kind of you don't even know about the Ottoman Empire to realize that this is insane So then I would say what is happening is that people of high intellect can't live with their inner self revolting.

1:34:12 against itself. Somebody at that party who you've mentioned this before, who once said I would never have dinner with a Republican! That wasn't one of these people but yes yes that person was not here and it was I could never have dinner with the Republican right and so if you have that sort of mentality now having to deal with this Obama... And by the way I believe.. I think it shorts him out I still think our Obot friends think we're secretly Republicans because they can't even... They can't even parse that, you know, I'm agnostic to it. That I'm not joining any club with stickers These Republicans are worse! Yeah but you know what i'm saying? It's like they can't even think that I'm just a free-thinking dude who by the way No, it can't be done You have to be part of a party And and by the way when Mickey does this

1:35:11 It's sexy. Because here is this 6'1 Amazon and she has her heels on, she is 7 feet tall and she just like not having any of it And that is the worst because you know Republicans generally are ugly So they think we're Republicans They know were not but then they see this and its a mind...it messes with their brain It really does I think for the first time it got a little ugly Between you and the doctor? No, no. Just in general. Oh because you think... Maybe he shouldn't have even gone anywhere You should've just let them talk about their... By the way do you know that 23andMe or whatever it's called Yeah that's Sergei's ex-wife Yeah! Sergei dumped her That's how the conversation started He dumped her for some young bimbo Hello have you seen her? Yeah

1:36:13 So anyway, so that is what I have observed. I've observed that the O-bots cannot handle the obvious atrocity will not rise in opposition because whatever social pressures they feel however they identify very much with the technology of the age and the science and the math and we're all related We're all going to live forever It's like magic You know, it's like alchemy. And that and you know as long as I can have some gadget that I can wear that will beep and tell me i'm doing okay... It's um yeah it's like they're falling for illusions does that make sense?

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Watermelon Gazpacho, Lamb Chops, Culinary Anecdotes

A detailed account of a dinner party menu is provided, featuring watermelon gazpacho with coconut milk and marinated lamb chops. The host admits to overcooking the lamb and forgetting to serve the mango chutney. The segment concludes with a reflection on the differences in political outlook between couples with children and those without.

watermelon gazpacho· lamb chops· mango chutney· cooking· dinner party

1:37:02 It's weird. How was the meal? The meal was actually pretty good, so here is what we had I decided to do something which John scoffed at... I made a watermelon gazpacho and John was like oh god! What a douchebag thing that blahblahblah I thought it was just a glass of watermelon juice the way you described it No, it was a gazpacho Watermelon Gazpacho And uh..I have to say I think I really nailed it I had it chilled. You should make that one of your house specialties then, now apparently it's actually a tomato based gazpacho that has chunks of watermelon in it which sounds like it might be tasty So you have to get the mix just right It's the chunks... Of course you're going to juice some watermelon and get some chunks of watermelon It's also the lime and white balsamic vinegar That and salt That is really the sea salt

1:37:56 That's the mix you got to get right. You have to serve it with some, you know... ...you gotta save some watermelon for the chunks and then here is what I did a little cilantro on top when i served it and I put a swirl of coconut milk And that was the hit of the evening Now, uh..You and I discussed you had made for me a menu ummm....I went against Sir Scott's uhhh.....uhhh He had a whole Moroccan thing with lamb shanks and from lamb shanks you said why don't just do lamb chops hard to fuck it up Guess what? I almost did. Strangely enough. How? Um, I had them going too long Oh yeah you can't overcook lamb too much Right so um but I marinated them and got the fresh sticks of thyme and rosemary

1:38:43 Which I mean the car still smells of it just from bringing it back from the grocery store with you know, so I put that in with oil and with With lots of garlic and I made a sappy juice And then I marinated him and then I went back late and it would have been perfect if for two things If I hadn't let them cook. So they're little overcooked. I mean not horrible but just a tad and After as everyone's leaving I see sitting there the frickin mango chutney. I never served the mangoed chutney with it Oh, that would have saved him! I'm an idiot That would have saved everything and then we because I still had some left And I had it last night We we had it again It was dynamite with a mang- Indian mango chutney yeah? I paid attention to what you told me Dynamite serve that with mashed potatoes, and I found my mojo in the mashed potatoes

1:39:35 Found my mojo, lots of butter. But I also threw in a coconut yogurt. Oh really? Dynamite! You know one of those little plastic things? Yeah so it actually has no yogurt in it just like you know it has coconut whatever is like non-dairy something or other You know these... Not so-gurt. Why no, it was not so-gurt! What's the deal with that? Because you said throw in cream and I came up with coconut yogurt threw out in a little bit of fresh nutmeg and actually called you John and said how do I keep this going

1:40:21 and how long will I need to keep it fresh, whatever. So I wound up making it put in the oven for about an hour-and-a-half just on the warm and it was nice and warm dynamite, dynamite, dynamite! Miss Mickey made broccoli which I'd steamed first as you told me didn't boil them steamed them and she mixed in she does like a wok thing with mushrooms and onions and whatever else so that was pretty good but the lamb just a little bit little bit on the overcooked side and I forgot the mango chutney. Yeah, the mango chutney would have made a difference because it's... It adds some moisture to an overcooked product. And in fact, yeah! It was an overcooked product there you go that's what i served them but you know what they deserved it after the apathy and the 23andme I'm like fuck it I'm burning your lamb I'm gonna dry that shit right out

1:41:17 So anyway, that sounds like a huge disappointment. I was expecting it to be the high light of today's show I'm sorry. I wish I think the 23 and me is quite a highlight but It's it's a sad sad sad highlight that I could not spark him John I just could not spark him and I really tried there's like uh And you know then Jen, you know one with one of the girls which I protested in college Now I will point out. I am Mickey and I the only parents of the bunch Okay, so the other two couples have no kids And I think that I think there's something to that I have always thought that yes That you know it's like uh a lot of people have the yeah You get it you did yeah? Yeah know what I'm saying

1:42:11 Yeah, no I know totally. I think anyone out there with kids and versus the... And of course it's insulting to the non-child or the childless couples Right It irks them when people say well you're no better than I am just because you raised that brat Until you've had a kid on a leash, you can't talk about that. You don't know what... Short segment today so I might as well blast through it thanking everybody who came in with some pecunias to help us out

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Skype Connection Issues, USB Drivers, Bitcoin

The hosts address ongoing technical issues with Skype, speculating that USB drivers or hardware cables may be causing audio dropouts. They acknowledge donations from Taipei City and a listener in Georgia who funded his contribution using $2.01 in Bitcoin profits. Health karma is sent to a producer in the Netherlands facing heart problems.

skype· usb driver· bitcoin· port angeles· eindhoven

1:42:58 We have Jeremy Johnson $166.69 up there in Port Angeles, Washington. We should have him in the meetups we always commonly have up there. Thank you for the show and congrats on six years Hot Pockets 2010! You know I'm talking to a company up in that area for The Ultimate Podcast Device Oh good. To do manufacturing? Yeah, I think it's something you can sell. Yeah maybe we'll find out! I could probably use it yeah yeah and probably You're gonna get a large man. Hey, he's back! Taipei City is back with $133 and 33 cents. Do not let your Skype problem become the distraction of the week Please use these funds to fix your connection Well apparently... Everybody now convinces us that this is... Hold on... The distraction of the week On Noah's Agenda Look over there... Well how coincidental So what you were going to say is that A lot of people are convinced The problem is USB driver

1:44:00 Yeah, well how coincidental is it that we start the show with a new fresh cable? Which means it was unplugged and we haven't had a problem. Huh yeah because maybe It's not an hour its maybe an hour in 20 minutes so do we still have uh... Oh if you'll start breaking up later then I just unplug it and plug it back in But it could be days I mean it could be You know you have the thing plugged into computers on for days And then you know you do the show and all of sudden starts and there could be all kinds of stuff I know that Leo's pointed this out on the Twitch show. He's commonly... People come on and their connection goes to crap, they plug and unplug and they're back And it never made any sense to me William Johnson in Smyrna Georgia 101-01 Hey guys tossing 101-01 your way Took it out of his PayPal account The $2.01 he made by selling off his bitcoins How much did he make?

1:44:59 $2.01 nice that's not that's not a full Bitcoin I know that Then we have Sam Manner who'll be at night because it came into the hundred dollars of Victoria, Australia Vovelo so what I got yeah? That's what I got to in Eindhoven $99 given over him well. I don't think so he says it must be oh, it's in the email Well Sander Hulksbergen in Zandam, Netherlands. He did some well soon and heart he has a heart problem we might as well give him a this is for his friend Andreas needs some heart karma and a de-douching for fellow producer Arthur Goebbets okay so we shall do the deducing first

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, 6666 Donors, Health Karma

A large segment of the show is dedicated to reading names of donors who contributed $66.66 to celebrate the show's sixth anniversary. Birthday wishes are sent to Wendy in Chicago, who is facing a layoff, and several other listeners. The hosts also send "F-cancer" karma to a listener in Saskatoon named Max who was recently diagnosed with advanced cancer.

wendy packard· 6666· health karma· saskatoon· birthday

1:45:50 So sorry. You've been de-douche'd! And here is the heart karma... You've got karma Sorry about that douchebag thing. And then we have a handwritten note I'll read generally and this is Wendy in Chicago who has also had her birthday last Sunday, Wendy Packard 8132 and she says newish listener hoping to go from pre donor to predame Would like a birthday shoutout, she's got that. Also use some job karma she is getting laid off on August 30th. That sucks. She also says keeping the NSA busy with my drunk tweets. She actually tweeted us during the show. Nice picture! You know what I'm saying?

1:46:47 Stopped going because you groused about my tweeting somebody I saw earlier Let's run through a few here we get In fact, I think there's a theme coming up. Michael Kearns in Kansas City! 69, dude! Here are our 69-69ers. Michael Kearns, Kansas City, Missouri as opposed to Kansas City, Kansas. You know there is a difference? There is. Mike Nikolajchuk in Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada. Edward Hines in Jacksonville Florida, Paris of Jacksonville Charles Walter Schomburg, Illinois Joe Jose Gonzalez in Henderson Nevada So where the smart money lives and whoops wait a minute that he's beyond it Wow sorry It was a fourfer that's all we got yeah He says he says you this is Jose and I'm gonna read his note. I am 13

1:47:43 In junior high, this summer I bypassed the airport security line twice by saying he couldn't raise his arms above my shoulder. It was sweet! I am sending 6868 because my mom said i couldn't send 6969 Mom! Really? Wow Send us a picture of your mom So anyway now we got 13 year old Yeah well you know what He's probably the smartest kid Thank you very much thank you exactly Matthew Davis in the Raymoor, Missouri 6666 these are our 6666 donors who Who are helping us celebrate their sixth anniversary of the NOAA agenda Sean I'm gonna read off the names of this shows donors that contributed 6666 Gary Lader in Richmond Virginia William Jamison and Tulsa Oklahoma Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg Missouri Maryland Maryland Frostberg Maryland

1:48:42 He says our shows have been great recently. Todd Brink in New Berlin, Wisconsin John White in Jackson, Tennessee Rod Berry in Summersworth, New Hampshire William Young in Lebanon, Tennessee Chris Cowan in Austin Texas Kwong Lu in Santa Ana, California. Mark Heimerman who's got a birthday coming up we have him listed to be Appleton Wisconsin Brian Ferguson Foothill Ranch California Eric Willson Jefferson Georgia John Pacifici Pacifici pacifici yes pacificity

1:49:21 pacifist pasts a passive C passive FISI yeah in Tampa Florida pass the fissy will ya and Tampa Florida of course is the home of lap dancers Constantine racked in Iraq at any in Toronto Ontario Emmett Stewart in Orange Park, Florida Paul Webb and Twickenham UK Tim Conner in Edmonton, Alberta where all the money is. Walter C Nicholson Shreveport Louisiana Peter Marus in Elmhurst New York it's a good group. Wacom Den Boer in South Yara, Victoria. You can probably say that. Okay, Jochem... Jochem... Jochem den Boer Den Boer I could make you say anything Yes Sam Lung in Toronto Ontario Arthur Gobitz in Zandam Zandam Zandum which means a big dam

1:50:22 He says, please get some health karma to Andreas Luckfield who's hooked up to a heart monitor. Oh that's okay That's what would that we just did that for Arthur earlier on didn't we for Andreas? Yeah, I don't know did we yeah it was now when I'm like am I nuts here and hold on a second let me go back up Xander Hawks Bergen Okay These guys are all in cahoots. Yeah, I guess they're like... I want to give it anyway please we want the... You've got karma We want to help people out with anything we can. David Carey in Clement Florida Claremont Florida who needs me on the birthday list? I don't see him is he on there? He had a birthday yesterday No Put him on Okay David C-A-R-E-Y David Carey and uh yesterday okay

1:51:22 Christopher Tremelling in Melbourne, Victoria Australia and that's our 6666 donors for this show which is a good group and we'll have another good group I hope on Thursday. And now we have Scott Shekai in Harwick Pennsylvania 5555 Joshua Bloom double nickels on the dime in Princeton New Jersey Stephen Schwartz in Schwartz Texas Whatever that place, wherever that is. Brian Curry's back from Cunnell British Columbia BC. Brian's got his email forwarding he's happy Beth Borazan in Tucson she also sent in a note which says

1:52:04 Heil boys saw these and thought of you she go that's right. She sent us each one car freshener thing that you hang from your No, it smells like mac and cheese yeah Wow who would want that Hey, Eric Hockel in Berlin Deutschland 52 bucks for the fragrance of poverty Mac and cheese now for your car James McLean in Ocean Springs Mississippi $50.33 and We'll give you some karma at the end he wants him. He's writing a dissertation yes

1:52:51 Mike Mataloni in Chicago, Illinois. Greg Brunstall in Kenosha Wisconsin Bruce Bradley's are all 50s lot in Oklahoma and finally a couple Aiden Clark Aiden Aiden Clark in North Lake health karma for his wife will be sure to add that in Carl Baron in Malmö, Sweden. Cute little town. Mark Tanner and Whittier that's our group of well-wishers and producers and contributors to show 5441 I want to thank every one of them profusely for keeping up the pace

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Value for Value, Command Line Email

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Roy Pierce, Donald Silva, and Samantha (Dame Sam). Following the ceremony, they discuss the merits of using "Mutt," a command-line email client, for its speed and efficiency compared to graphical user interfaces.

knighting· mutt· imap· value for value· dame

1:53:34 And so there were a couple of health karmas, which is always sad when I see so many people asking for that. Also we skipped over Mike and Nikolai Chuck from Saskatoon he had quite a note there He wanted some F cancer karma first friend Max who went from being healthy to having advanced inoperable Cancer in his back and as long as in one week Wow yay Fuck that shit exactly You've got karma and let that be a general health karma for everybody And remember to sign up the 23andme and find out what you can't eat so you will live forever. Don't eat the oysters Don't eat the oysters, everybody

1:54:16 Thank you so much for supporting the program. Everything you hear today is analysis and language and concepts even that cannot be used in any other form of media that is paid for by sponsorships, underwriters advertising whatever you want to call it because that just would not work. The only way works is when people who listen are the producers we have our executive producers associate executive producers they finance the show up front we give them the credit for that and thank you everyone else for your uh... donations everything over fifty dollars is mentioned and of course we have plenty people who are on monthly subscriptions eleven eleven thirty three's got some to still even left there it is highly appreciated enables us to continue to do what we did a four-act dot org slash edge in

1:55:07 Misty Talman says happy birthday to her husband Joel who celebrated on the 30th. Mark Heimerman, happy birthday to his son Matthew it was his birthday yesterday and himself on the 3rd of September which is my birthday as well birthday call once again we've mentioned her several times in today's show to Wendy in Chicago she turned 32 last Sunday David Carey celebrated yesterday and John from California the Hummer of Berkeley wishes his bestest BFF Adam happy birthday with his 49th this coming Tuesday thank you John. You're welcome! We have a couple, actually

1:55:54 So Sam is going to give... No, Sam IS dame. Sam is going to be a dame. So Sam is a female Sam as in Samantha. We have two knights and one daming this is gonna be great! Roy Pierce step forward Donald Silva come on down and SAM! Hello Sam All of you who supported the best podcast in the universe, and the amount of $1,000 or more. We highly appreciate your support of the program and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Roy of Ancoa, Sir Donald Silva, and Dame Sam from The House Of Dubious Repute! All of you now join the Knights & Dames at the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Hookers & Blow, Ramp Boys & Chardonnay, Hot Pants & Booze Longhead Heavy Metal Guys & Scotch, Wenches & Beer, Ruggedettes & Women In Rose, Geishas & Sake, Vodka & Villa, Bong Hits & Bourbon, Sparkling Cider & Escorts, Mutton & Mead Here for You

1:56:44 And thank you again for supporting the program. I'm using mutt I'm sorry? I'm using MUT. What do you mean, MUT? Well ever since i set up my mail server again uh you know now you can do stuff...MUT! You don't know MUT the command line email program? No, I do not know MUT. Now as you mention it though it rings a bell. MUT is the bomb. The bomb?! It really is because you can put in a terminal window and make the window big or small and you know let's say it's doing using IMAP so it's not local..it's great just that I got my colors and everything MUT

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

War on Sysadmins, Edward Snowden, Cyber Security

The media narrative surrounding Edward Snowden has shifted to a "war on sysadmins," portraying those with "super-user" privileges as potential threats. The hosts argue that attempting to automate these roles or requiring "two-key" authentication for system tasks is a mistake that will lead to technical failures. They also mention General Keith Alexander's $18 billion budget for a "cyber army."

sysadmin· edward snowden· nsa· glenn greenwald· cyber war

1:57:22 I'm slowly, the more i use like you know GUIs and interfaces... When I was a kid we used to have these GUI's. The command line! No it's kind of nice It really is, it's just you get things done so much faster. I work with a lot of these guys who are systems guys and when most of their time is spent on the command line because they can do so much faster. One long command. Yeah but pipe pipes and everything there is a war on sysadmins by the way This is, I'm seeing this happen. This of course goes to our Snowjob department where you know... I guess there's another maybe Glenn Greenwald you know we've of course not really hearing much about the Snowden now that were attacking Syria so it's just pfft! To the back burner with all this but as a here's the news like headline Snowden impersonated NSA officials sources say

1:58:21 And so what they're now trying to, I think move into the lexicon into the conversation is sysadmins bad because you know they have super user power and they can pseudo anything and they can look at anything. And I'm not quite sure what they're going to do or because you know, I find sysadmins to be the most trustworthy people in the universe. Yes and you point out that they're the ones who look away when you type in your password. Of course that's because they have their password already You know what? Sysadmins are too busy doing things to care about your email and whatever...and of course the sysadmins are in the horrible position where you know They're the ones asked to do the dirty business

1:59:10 But I guess that what they're gonna The idea here, I think is we need to fire all the sysadmins who of course are the only people that keep this crap running This is the big mistake. That's being made and I know it's a huge mistake. I like it because I'm the pied piper story Oh tell me there's a guy the pied piper gets all his rats out of town Yeah gets rid of the guy and next thing you know the rats come back oh right Well, it's not quite... the bugs. We'll call them bugs then in this case not rats But it's a huge mistake because I think what they're gonna try to do is either have, you know It's gonna be like you have to have two sysadmins and they'll both have to turn the key like nuclear codes or something Which is never gonna work cuz there's no two sysadmin in the world that think alike. Right? It'll be like well, I think I should turn to the right I'm going...I have a command line for my key. I don't know if he feels like I want to use the 128-bit encrypted key

2:00:08 Now, so of course that won't work but also you know that means you have to find two guys at the same time and when you need something done. You just want it done this is a huge mistake and they're probably going to try and automate a lot of this stuff well you know there's the which isn't possible who are really close to these sysops or sysadmins and all the rest of them they are easily sold and I think a lot of CEOs are sold by skip on the idea that you don't know these guys use new automated system all will take care of this yeah just disorder dis old nude software will take care you won't need assist admin to use this software

2:00:46 Anyone can use it, you know kind of thing. Yeah Guys who think that computers are appliances? Oh yeah And and of course they what they'll want is to want to have like the CEO or the general of the Kaiser or whatever will have The keys You know and he's gonna give him the pager, you know in the middle of the night when something goes down and then he's gonna have to you know authenticate It's a nightmare, but there is an actual war on sysadmins. I kid you not it is taking place and it's a huge mistake Huge mistake yeah just based on the one Snowden guy because of one guy Just got one guy with the conscience or maybe still may be a plant from the CIA into the NSA I mean we don't know any of this no But what would you what you and I know

2:01:35 Is that there's so much money to be made and all the contractors they're looking for anything to make money Cyber war okay, we're gonna have cyber shields. We have cyber you know Fortifications whatever word we can think up and we can sell it to the government. We're gonna get it What is Kaiser Alexander's budget 18 billion dollars? Yeah, he wants to create a cyber army. Then of course they got the note came out apparently we've been attacking... We've been committing acts of war against numerous countries commonly through our computer systems

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Iran's Stance on Syria, Israel's Role, Rubble Strategy

The hosts analyze a statement from an Iranian cleric regarding U.S. military failure in Syria. They debate whether the U.S. is acting on behalf of Israeli interests or if the goal is simply a "rubble strategy"—turning Middle Eastern countries into ruins so they resemble the current state of Lebanon or Detroit.

iran· israel· lebanon· detroit· syria

2:02:15 Yeah, I'm surprised that we that nobody calls us out on it. But but they don't so Here's a guy got a God clip back to the Syrian thing You know what? It's time to test its time to test you are now cutting out Oh Okay, so unplug your unplug your micro. Tell me when you can tell one I Don't know if that was intentional or not, but we did lose him and let's see if he can reconnect So the Skype connection remains in place and I heard the click. You heard a click? Yeah, you're back And I'm back Let's see what happens Alright So this was about two hours Do of course you had to reboot because something was wrong with your mouse before the show? Yeah Okay so that was it's about 2 hours Dead battery Oh really? Yeah Hate it when that happens Well it's rare It is first time ever change the battery on my mouse

2:03:10 Okay, so we have I found this to be peculiar now if we're gonna attack Syria what why let's just say We were all in and we're just going for whose side would we beyond? We would be on the side of the Saudi Arabians and on the side of crazy enough Israel well don't Well that said okay. Let me back up oh You got two sides the way I see it. You got this you got the Assad side and you got the rebels Oh, are you just talking about Syria itself? Yes Yeah That's correct Assad and the rebels right whose side would we be on if were bombing side of the rebels

2:03:48 Oh, interesting. Then how do you make sense from this odd comment from the Iranian... one of the Iranian spokes-holes? Let me uh.. oh is this the woman's spoke hole? No, it was a man's spoke so they don't let women speak Yes! They just let the woman speak more later Meanwhile in Iran senior cleric said any military action by US is doomed to fail If the Americans commit such a mistake of attacking Syria, they definitely won't achieve victory and victory will belong to the resistance and the proud nation of Syria. Okay hold on... So who are we attacking? Well that's when I heard this I went this doesn't make any sense

2:04:36 What's the deal? So somethings up there. You as a Middle Eastern expert, and I know you spent many years at the Brookings Institute and of course your seat in the Council on Foreign Relations... Are we not just doing Israel's bidding for them is that not what is happening here? Is that not just obvious am I crazy? If you remember when this thing first... within the first month Conflagration which began a couple years ago and I looked at those pictures of some of the towns it looked like Lebanon Which was really created, was messed up by the Syrians. I think...I still think that this is a make-good in the Middle Easterners thinking long term A make good for ruining Lebanon for all time It looks like and now their country's gonna look the same

2:05:26 I think personally that's all there is to it. That's my opinion It just it's just to make the landscape look the same? Yeah, so its a wreck. Its a mess. Hey! It's like Detroit looks like crap So we've you know We've got to make Kalamazoo look crappy too and just pull the plug on it yeah that sort of thing but that makes no sense how come you can't just answer me? Can't just answer my question I couldn't I just did Do you think it's only because Lebanon is in shambles and Beirut looks like crap? I'm telling you this is my oddball thesis. I know nobody...I'm just telling what I think Well, okay fine alright fine look all I know.. I think that it IS retaliation but I think its a different kind of retaliation You can't remove Saudi Arabia from this equation You cant remove Israel from it. You cant remove the Palestine

2:06:24 conversation I don't know what to call that anymore. You can't remove any of that, I think ultimately if we follow your logic then the end goal is to just have everything be rubble. Exactly! Okay. Rubble everywhere. All right well good then I have nothing else to say and that's great. I do have a great new initiative, a commercial And I would like to say right now, and you may join me in this John. I would like everybody who can hear the sound of my voice to put my name up for nomination for this new campaign. I submit my name gladly and I hope everyone will submit their names on behalf of me. Andrew Sandy Ivan Katrina

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Climate Change Hurricane Naming, Political Satire, Austin Weather

A satirical campaign proposes naming hurricanes after politicians who deny climate change, such as "Hurricane Marco Rubio" or "Hurricane Michelle Bachman." The hosts find the newscaster-style videos hilarious but note that the current hurricane season has been relatively mild. They also comment on the 105-degree temperatures in Austin, Texas.

marco rubio· michelle bachman· rick perry· climate change· hurricanes

2:07:30 Since 1954, the World Meteorological Organization has been naming hurricanes and tropical storms. But what did these people do to deserve having their names attached to this? As climate change continues to create more frequent and devastating storms we propose a new naming system one that names extreme storms after policy makers who deny climate change We propose something like this Senator Marco Rubio is expected to pound the eastern seaboard sometime early tonight. Windows are being boarded up and grocery stores are virtually empty as Marco Rubio threatens everything in his path. Now, Michelle Bachman is on the way folks and specifically the eye of Michelle Bachman will be hitting Florida in a few hours

2:08:22 Congresswoman Michelle Bachman is incredibly dangerous. If you value your life, please seek shelter from Michelle Bachman. Senator David Vitter is turning out to be one of the hugest and costliest disasters in American history. David Vitter literally lifting boats out of the water and tossing them onto the land! In New Orleans, the levees that were built to stop Hurricane Colin Peterson have been obliterated. Here's a North Pier where speed running Julian Murray is just destroying this town Local animal shelters are under pressure as thousands of animals have been displaced or killed by Governor Rick Perry. This is the best commercial I've seen in a long time, John! It's great! And it just goes on...I mean it's better when you see the videos because they really did the whole newscaster thing. Right, the whole... I would love to have a hurricane named after me That'd be great Yeah, it would be but uh...

2:09:24 that clip of the week by the way hit or clip of the day hit it really i thought i'd never seen this as hilarious oh well that's very kind of you I don't know if I deserve but I'll take it of course Adam Curry's eye but just you know, its genius by removing the entire conversation from Weather is not climate which is not by the way. Where's all the horrible? You know the this is supposed to be though the worst season ever I'll admit Katrina or Katrina Sandy, which was not a hurricane Was not fun but we what else have we had since then it isn't the season almost over now It's been pretty mild whatever's going on so they've removed the conversation from oh yeah No you can't keep the conversation consistent

2:10:21 It was funny. I forgot during the dinner because if all of a sudden it spiked back up It's like 105 here in Austin and was really nice cuz we were down in the 80s We were like, oh my god This is great. I'm running around town in my dress going like hey, it's global cooling told you And our guests come over and they look at me like, uh-huh. Told you it was global warming! Yeah because there's never been 105 in Austin in the entire history of mankind no one has ever heard of hot temperatures in Texas Oh man I do love them I really...I love my friends and they know they love us too I have to say that because otherwise don't know You're done It was a good percentage of the show

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Linguistic Slips, "Doing it TO the American People", Media Analysis

The hosts highlight a clip of a Democratic congressman who accidentally stated that President Obama would explain "what he's doing TO the American people" regarding Syria, rather than "FOR" or "TO" them about the conflict. They compare this to John McCain's earlier "facade" slip as a subconscious admission of the true nature of the policy.

linguistic slip· barack obama· john kerry· syria· american people

2:11:06 They don't donate to the show. Well, they're not donating any information that's for sure now I could tell them they move it up. They got a step up their game Hey no more free food for you This is The next one is at the professor's house in November It's gonna be two months yeah, yeah been there very nice very nice house Yeah, yeah, it's uh it's modest modest and I got a clip, see if you can spot that there's kind of an interesting thesis on this show is that people always tell the truth.

2:11:42 You just have to listen. Yes, you've just got to keep your ears open and you'll hear it It's always in there that there's a truth message in here There's a Democratic congressman who is all-in on punishing the Syrians? yes, and he kind of phrases things in a funny way I'm sure that somebody will say well, do you know what he meant right now? I know what he meant kind of like kind of like McCain's facade Yeah, he meant one thing but he said something else. See if you can spot it? Well I don't disagree with Mack. The president has to come before the American people. What we saw Secretary Kerry do today was the start of that. If he acts and I believe will explain what he's doing to the American people this will be limited in scope

2:12:26 And it'll be done to show Assad that the gassing of his own people is not acceptable. This is a war crime, those pictures of those children foaming at the mouth and dying are something that will live in my mind for the rest of my life I just think there are certain things Don't say anything. Please don't say a single thing, I need to listen to it again because i didn't hear so this is what happens this is why we have two sets of ears four years on the show Well I don't disagree with Mac, I think the president has to come before the American people I think what we saw Secretary Kerry do today was the start of that and I think if he acts and I believe he will explain what he's doing to the American people I think this will be limited in scope

2:13:14 And it'll be done to show Assad that the gassing of his own people is not acceptable. This is a war crime, those pictures of those children foaming at the mouth and dying are something that will live in my mind for the rest of my life I just think there were certain things It feels real subtle, but did he say that the President Obama is doing this to the American people? Yeah! He says he's going to explain what he's doing to the American people. Yeah that's what I heard too The proper phrasing is he's going to explain to the American people what he's doing about something else But he said he was gonna explain what HE'S doing TO...the American People

2:13:57 Yeah, it's a little bit. No I heard there I said ah I didn't hear it the first time but I had the second time like okay? I get it yeah Well this is this is the other guy that does I mean you can tell the difference right you're seeing it Yeah, I'm looking at some being some of the aspects of the ear. Oh, I'm just looking at the attitude That's all that's all I need to see oh my god The attitude is just crazy well It could be a pro that could be a because of drugs Mickey well Mickey don't you think um Could be. I mean these presidents that we've had, that's why they're either drop dead or they turn gray or... Oh yeah it's all the drugs yeah they get shot up. They got drugged up and don't get any sleep Well there's uh so we know well we know that the president had you know has like this chanting mantra crap that goes on and then he changes and we discussed this in fact the Democrat

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

George Clooney, Satellite Spying, Method Acting Theory

A BBC report mentions that actor George Clooney pays for a satellite to spy on Sudan. This leads to a discussion on Clooney's potential role as a "spy" or intelligence asset. The hosts also revisit the theory of "sub-personalities" in acting and how it applies to political figures who seem to change personas based on their current agenda.

george clooney· sudan· satellite· method acting· sub-personalities

2:14:50 Finance year of the Democratic Convention was murdered because he saw this and told people about it. Remember this? Yeah, yeah So Mickey had an interesting theory you know she studied for more than 10 years a method acting and she studied with one of the masters, not Strasberg. He's dead I think but you know of this school so it's Jung and it was the other douche with the... come on the sex guy! The sex doctor

2:15:29 Sick masters and Johnson Yeah, Freud that guy the sex guy he's the sex guy so Freud you're right Ian yeah, but you know and so she studied for years all these sub personalities And this is what, this is her theory and I like it. I mean, I like your theory much better that there's twins and that's why the whole birth certificate is a problem and one of these guys on ice down there in the fridge at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and this is the war guy but she says you can have these two... This is how schizophrenia comes about etc., but everybody has a sub-personality and you can get stuck in these and actors are trained to bring them out. This is why great actors they're so believable

2:16:14 And if you look... Right, and some of them to follow up on that. Some of them actually stay in character during the entire movie. Oh! And don't... When they go home? Yeah, that's right like Dustin Hoffman is famous for this Famous because remember when he used to win awards For you know when he did Rain Man He was still rain man. He never got out of their role when he accepted the Academy Award It took him a long time. Stop man chill out yeah He couldn't get out of it And so but you can trigger these things through hypnosis, through drugs. But you and everyone has them. Everyone has the seven-year old kid. Everyone has the warmonger everybody has the hope and change guy. She says this is just the same guy with a different sub personality that is being massaged and trained by professionals I'm like okay well that's a reasonable theory

2:17:06 And I look at the guy, and like my god this isn't... Just go back and look at something from 2007 or 2008. Yeah he looks the same but phew! This is like you know the guy who's gonna kill people. And he thinks it cool too, he thinks it okay. Am I right? That's the weird part. He's a constitutional lawyer! It's just okay alright. His kill list. You're supposed to get a kick out of when apparently watches lot of these drone strikes and he just giggles Well you know what I'm missing And this is what I don't understand. Where is he? Where is Clooney they need to bring some celebrities into this pretty soon They need to bring here at this is the BBC report which I found hilarious George Clooney is a spy That's how it started

2:18:02 There's a sentence that needs a bit of qualification. What he does is, he pays for a satellite that spies on Sudan... So I think he's just keeping him for that, I guess? For Sudan when we're ready for that. He's the Sudan guy and i think that uh... I think that the way was that news report was presented It was to make it clear to smart money that George Clooney is a spy. George Clooney is a spy! That's an evergreen, you gotta clip that. That's good isn't it? We should combine it somehow

2:18:41 Let me see if I can combine it. If you play the George Clooney theme and then hit that, yeah but i think there's something else do we have another clue what is this? Is this also Clooney? Call me sir god damnit! No that's not Clooney okay so then we do like George Clooney is a spy. Yeah no I gotta work on it. It's a laugh track. Oh yeah, it needs a laugh track maybe I do it in the outro, maybe that'll work. George Clooney is a spy! Yeah thats better. Yeah I like it and stepping on the bus guitar is perfect no it should be right on top of it And thats how we produce the best podcast in the universe This is how we do it ladies and gentlemen Revenge porn as we wrap up our serious show revenge porn

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Revenge Porn Legislation, California Law, Nudity vs Pornography

California is introducing legislation to criminalize "revenge porn," the act of posting intimate photos of an ex-partner without consent. The hosts analyze an interview with activist Holly Jacobs, suggesting the law might be a "front" to prevent the leak of politically damaging photos (similar to Abu Ghraib). They argue that the term "domestic violence" is being overextended to cover non-violent digital acts.

revenge porn· california· holly jacobs· domestic violence· abu ghraib

2:19:39 This is happening in your neck of the woods actually, and I had it in the show notes on Thursday. There's legislation that has been introduced in California that will make it illegal for you to post naked photographic or videographic material of someone without their permission even if you took it with their permission So the idea is and this is rather interesting that this conveniently happened to be a topic on newsroom Two weeks ago or whatever three weeks ago. So if so, I've taken pictures like this you know So you're hanging out You know you do have like your hookup your girlfriend your boyfriend your wife your husband Whatever it takes some crazy-ass shots But then you break up

2:20:30 or you get a divorce and then you're so angry like look at this biatch and then you post the naked pictures on the internet that will become uh, an offense. And I'm not so sure...I find this um i think it probably has more to do with media somehow or something with politics. It's going to be misused for something but there is this woman Holly Jacob And she has been the, she's the spokeshole for the movement Revenge Porn. In fact she has a... let me see if I can find what was the name of... well she mentions it in this report She has a website and everything What if you go with this? Just look at the logistics to this

2:21:19 So I got some revenge porn and I've decided that I want to blow it out and point the finger at somebody for being a douchebag. And so, I go set up one of these free websites out of Ukraine which apparently when anything happens out of the Ukraine law enforcement authorities just throw their arms in the air and they say we can't do anything Why I just post it there what are they gonna do about it? I'm not gonna touch my name to it well Well, thank you. Thank you and so there's something else going on with this now the funny thing is think so too It sounds like somebody's got some of you know remember at a time that They had those pictures from Abu grab and then Wow John I think you fucking nailed it your tip So there's something floating out there that has to be stopped before it happens Yeah This makes nothing but sense

2:22:12 Wow, okay well listen... You can go yeah okay bud okay pal you can release that if you want but oh look at this law we just passed. Yeah you're gonna go to jail for doing this So Holly Jacob I'm going to play this report so of course the news you see she's sitting there with her lawyer The first thing i did while watching her was google her picture which is a pretty hot actually I mean, they need to know that this is going on. They need to be aware that this is happening Let's listen to this report the way you just... This is brilliant John thank you! This is why we're the best podcast in the universe Listen to this report as if she is letting someone know That they better not be posting whatever they've got because of this law that's now coming onto the books It fits right in now

2:23:01 They need to know. I mean, they need to know that this is going on and they need to be aware that this is happening and you can't trust anyone with this kind of material until there are laws put in place to... Because Holly what happened to you? Tell our viewers what happened to you! I was dating somebody for three years. We were in a long distance relationship, meaning we were sexting each other. We shared intimate photos back and forth meaning she's got some. And right when we broke up he changed my Facebook profile to a nude photo of me six months later he posted several of those photos upon a website amihotternutnude dot com and then

2:23:49 I'm a hot or not new dot com John that's years later promotion made my material go viral when he found out that i was dating somebody now he may did go viral this guy is a genius we need to hire him nobody can be posted this these pictures along with my phone name mine email address the school that I attended at my place of work And it was just terrible and devastating. So I imagine, when this happens and you see first of all It's terrible in terms of the impact that has on you but he is encouraging people to harass you right? That is what you say he was doing Absolutely. I was receiving all kinds of emails from people that were viewing this material, all kinds of Facebook messages...I mean i had to change my email address eight times to stop these harassing emails from coming in and I had to just completely disconnect and take my facebook profile down, my twitter profile down because I can't live! I had to take my Twitter profile down! I was getting harassed in reference to this material

2:24:52 Now, you the ex-boyfriend here is denying these charges. Is that correct? Right. Correct What about you are taking legal action Yes I'm taking legal action with a civil suit against him and also i had a criminal case picked up where he's being Cyberstalking charges are being pursued against him. And I also created a website where I'm collecting signatures to petition to change the laws and that's what you saw before, what you had up before EndRevengePorn.com so i really urge people to visit that and sign my petition because What is happening is not right this is a form of domestic violence

2:25:32 It's domestic violence, that's one hot rolls baby Great they're great pictures. I just nothing to not just nothing No She has nothing to be embarrassed about and she's not doing anything to herself this porn no ish no And here's what? This is another one of these this, this theme that we've spotted years ago and might as well bring it up again which is that nudity is not pornography. Exactly thank you! That's the only way I was going to take it but you brought in the whole someone's got something Well I think there's something else to this because generally speaking people don't go this far unless there's somebody backing them for some other reason Right She's a front man for whatever's going on Yes And that we have to be looking for Oh yeah she's got a lawyer there and everything Yeah no there's definitely something going on But for her to then call it

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Marie Harf, State Department Briefings, CIA Background

Marie Harf, a spokesperson for the State Department with a background in the CIA, is criticized for her performance in press briefings. The hosts play clips of her struggling to answer basic questions about international law and the UN investigation in Syria. They note that she appears to be a "hot shot" who is being ridiculed by the veteran press corps.

marie harf· state department· cia· press conference· syria

2:26:25 What's Spousal abuse is that what she said domestic violence even worse Yeah, and she should be proud of the heart nothing wrong with that. Yeah, but I think you want to be hot on your own terms oh Okay yeah, I'm just saying just saying yep be better if you have I have a clip that we don't have to play because it might actually let's play this clip. I have the dingbat Oh, and this would be our blonde dingbat from the departments of state Yeah And she stumbles around here and she did what this is a clip called words do not matter and she seemed She's either using the wrong. She's sentence structures falling apart

2:27:17 There's something she says in here. Now this is a clip that, well just play it we'll see if we can figure out what it is. It's an interesting fact that today week after this attack he said they should be allowed in when every single step the Syrian regime has taken up until this point has been to actually stall and stymie this investigation so the words speak much quieter than actions I think action here are what matters Hold on a second. I need some revenge porn from her, please Every action from this hearing regime has been that they will not cooperate with the UN investigation You think they're trying to stall our response to

2:27:55 what you describe as a massive use of chemical weapons? I don't want to venture to guess why they're doing what they're doing, but I think it's clear that we will not allow them to hide behind a UN investigation into the use of chemical weapons to prevent any response from the United States. Have you had a – have you received from the UN its assessment I don't know the answer to that. I can look into it because if you haven't Why would you argue that they are hiding behind that? I mean you yourself repeatedly called for the UN investigation The Syrian regime is trying to hide behind it She's no match she's no match You shouldn't by the way, in our ender show clip which producer drew put together There's a lot of her in this

2:28:47 So much so in fact that I didn't even pull clips from her some of her crazy ass press conferences. The problem with her, she thinks she can handle it She was like the spokeshole for the CIA you know about that? Here's the question...I'll be the spokeshole for the CIA ask me something! So do you think that Assad has actually gassed his own people We have no comment on that No, you gotta do it a little differently. She does more like I am not going to comment from the podium. All I can say is this about that. It's classified! I'm not going to comment on that from the podium?

2:29:26 They're always talking about the podium. Yeah, but I think she's actually I think this is the first time She's actually talked. I would like to see her as the spokeswoman for the CIA and seems you ever said anything What maybe just wrote press releases? I've never sent it seen a CIA Press conference where somebody's up there answering questions of you Well let's what's your name again her name is Harf beef harf what's-her-name Come on. We need her name I can't like a Spokesperson in small if you just go to video dot state gov which is my browser believe me knows that website It it auto fills everything Marie Harf, I think it isn't not hard Yeah something like let me see here briefing August 29th

2:30:15 Marie Harf. Yeah, okay Marie Harf now here's what we do is how you do it You go to see dash span video org and you type in Marie Harf into the search Which will the results always suck but then you got a hit people and then there's Marie Harf bio page And there's her appearances and we can go to oldest and Nope oldest on C-Span is July 20 she came from nowhere. I July 25th is the oldest on record. So yeah, that's the first time we've ever seen her I guess Yeah interesting Marie let's try Marie Harf CIA video. I'm just trying this quick little Google's you know what? Who knows

2:31:04 No, I think you're right. I don't think she's ever been in the public eye Yeah no and she thinks she is a hot shot because you can tell that She doesn't realize that she is being made a fool of by a couple of these guys By the best podcast in the universe And us...of course But I'm talking about the guys IN THAT ROOM are literally ridiculing her And she doesn't have this nastiness of that other woman She seems like, you know she just thinks she's smart and she's... Psaki. Jen? Well where is Jen? Is Jen- I mean why it feels to me like both Jen, Psaki and um... Kuh-kuh-kuh What's his name? Carney that they're hiding They're like oh, I don't want to be there. I don't want to do it today You go doesn't feel like- I think Psaki's probably working at a coroner because she likes the disassemble corpses Collected five feet today

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

September 11th Cycle, Hiroshima Comparison, Show Outro

As the show concludes, the hosts note that the upcoming September 11th anniversary falls within a "six-week cycle" of potential global action. A final produced clip compares the administration's condemnation of chemical weapons to the historical U.S. use of nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the current drone campaign's civilian toll. The show signs off with a reminder to support the "Value for Value" model.

september 11· hiroshima· nagasaki· drone strikes· international law

2:32:04 Because she has no soul is that why? All right Okay, so as we wrap it up for today John yes And do you have one more one more thing of a Bobby or are we going I think? Good. I got the whole on Clip which is just like yeah, man You don't need that asking your own people again another clip Alice But I still have this one clip and not gonna play in this show but I kept it an abeyance Which is the scam Scam of the 1990s. I want that's a hill at the H&K, I want you to hold on to that for Thursday show Can't do that? Yeah There's even more information about this it's even more disgusting than the clip itself all right so looking at Thursday show Thursday will be the 5th of September my Craig yeah the fifth of September Have we have we sent Raytheon steel towards Syria yay or nay

2:33:01 I'm saying nay. Nay, have we had a vote by then? Yay or nay? Uh, nay. Nay okay. September 11th would be that would be some nice symbolic day to do it Yeah and lot of people pointed that out too September 11 is coming up this is a good time to bomb somebody It will be a good time for someone to do something so we then could bomb Right, so we are coming up on the 11th which is the day of the six week cycle. Oh! All kinds of action yes. Coincidentally it's a six-week cycle coming up Don't know if there is a coincidence then The stuff's gonna be poppin' Alright Well we will be here please support us by going to Dvorak dot org slash NA You can get this kind of analysis anywhere else and hopefully we made you chuckle at least once or twice If you've got any revenge porn send it to me AdamMcCurry dot com

2:33:51 And we will be back on Thursday. Coming to you here from the Travis Heights hideout in the morning, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak Final clip done by producer Drew thank him so much and we will talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda As a father, I can't get the image out of my head Of a man who held up his dead child wailing while chaos swirled around it The images of entire families dead in their beds without a drop of blood or even a visible wound. Bodies contorting and spasms

2:34:31 human suffering that we can never ignore or forget. The CIA's drone campaign in Pakistan has killed dozens of civilians who've gone to rescue victims or were attending funerals. Anyone who could claim that an attack at this staggering scale could be contrived, fabricated needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass Between 282 and 535 civilians have been reported as killed including more than 60 children Everything these images are already screaming at us is real. And with our own eyes, we have all of us become witnesses. We have additional information about this attack and we will provide that information in the days ahead." The world doesn't need a classified U.S. intelligence assessment to see the photos and videos. Our sense of basic humanity

2:35:24 is offended not only by this cowardly crime. At least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they gone to help victims, more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes and funerals and mourners but also by the cynical attempt cover it up I want make sure that people understand actually drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties at every turn Syrian regime has failed cooperate with UN investigation using it only to stall and stymie the court efforts to bring to light what happened in Damascus in the dead of night. Meanwhile, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a case last week to force the Obama administration to release legal and intelligence records

2:36:03 related to the targeted killing of US citizens in drone attacks in Yemen last year. The lawsuit charged the Justice and Defense Departments and the CIA with illegally failing to respond to requests made in October under the Freedom of Information Act." Their response needed to be unrestricted, and immediate access. Failure to permit that I told them would tell its own story but make no mistake President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapons against the worlds most vulnerable people. Based on the fact that they used chemical weapons in an indiscriminate manner with respect to civilians, which is a general law of war that countries have agreed too and it is a clear violation of international law Syria to you best of your knowledge ever agreed to that?

2:36:52 I believe that it is a general law of war that governs all conflicts and so therefore they're in violation of it. Again, it's a gross violation of that international law and I'm not going to do more legal analysis than that. What law? Can you point me to specific law? I am not going to do a more detailed legal analysis Nobody is asking for detailed... Well i think you are! No one is asking for detailed legal analysis this is very simple... No let me finish This is very simple and undetailed question What piece of paper are you talking about when you talk about that piece of international law? Well, there is a general set of rules that govern conflicts. Do you believe he ordered this attack? I don't know the answer to that. And again, I just actually don't know the facts here. Let me make sure it's clear. It does not matter whether President Assad himself gave an order to use chemical weapons

2:37:48 He's responsible for their use. It doesn't matter, is that correct? He's responsible either way yes So if some rogue officer did this it still his responsibility That's well A yes but that also a wildly conjecture question I think in no way there is evidence supporting right now I'll stick with A Was the US use of nuclear weapons resulting in the mass and indiscriminate killing civilians in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki a violation of the same international law that you are referring to? I'm not even going to entertain that question, Arshad. Shut up!

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