Gender Dysphoria

00:00 you with the crocs, me with the dress. Oh, it's those guys. They know what's going on. They're so hip. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday, August 25th, 2013, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 542. This is no agenda. Switching the nuclear threat warning level 3 here in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm picking up the slack, I'm John C. Dvorak. I'm just picking it up. Yeah, you are actually you're my uh, you're my canary in the coal mine my friend. Yeah, what happened? Well, you know when that Fukushima uh cloud comes over it's gonna hit you first. Oh, it's coming now I can see it. So if you die, it's a big black cloud. If you die then yeah then I then I know something to worry about because man are they ratcheting that up or what? Yeah, it's pretty pretty uh ridiculous actually. And I've um I figured some of this out you know we already know where some of this is coming from

01:12 And this is still about the 300, you know, it's 300 tons of water and we went through all the calculations how it's not actually all that bad, but here's the reporting. I came through on CNN, which I watched a little bit of yesterday. Concerns over a toxic water leak at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant are now intensifying. That is because the country is getting ready to push the nuclear accident warning level to three. I love the verbiage used there. What are you doing? I'm pushing the nuclear threat warning level to three. The whole country's doing it. Which means it is classified as serious. That is the highest level it has been since the huge earthquake and tsunami triggered the massive meltdown back in 2011. The situation is so troubling, Japan's top nuclear official is now comparing that plant to a house of whores. Yeah. Whores?

02:09 Exactly! It's a house of whores! I can always count on you, John. You didn't miss a beat. This is really quite interesting and I've been trying to figure out the... Of course, I would say right off the bat that I'm very skeptical about the danger... The house of whores coming from Fukushima. We've been hearing this for quite a while. But there's a couple a couple of old people who have popped up again now who are in this conversation Have you ever heard of John the the GE 3?

02:48 Yeah, that's the the refrigerator they were making in the 50s. That was a big flop Now the GE 3 Was now we're going back to the 70s these were actually I should the GE 3 I thought I had it in the show notes Let me just bring it up here on the wikipedia's The GE 3 were three nuclear engineers who quote-unquote and and the book of knowledge Wikipedia actually has this in quotes blew the whistle on on safety problems at nuclear power plants in 1976. They then subsequently went on to become technical associates and advisors to the movie The China Syndrome, which conveniently came out, I don't know, like 12 days before Three Mile Island. Yeah, yeah. And these guys, they were part of something called the Creative Initiative Foundation.

03:42 You did some digging today. Yeah, I'm getting a little pissed off about it because you know, this is the these people are now back and Gregory Minor I think is the main guy who's back and then you know, they're talking the same smack they were talking about what no one from three No one died during Three Mile Island. I might want to point that out and and I but I think I figured it out it makes so much sense really when you think that we have the the new IPCC report due in less than six months and Now this of course is the big climate change bible and I think we've gone from 95% of all scientists in the entire universe to 97% believe in man-made global warming and climate change. So this report is on its way and I think here's what the issue is. We have natural gas now, I think it's about $4, John, can you check?

04:39 That's all I can check as a matter. That's the so it's four dollars per thousand tons or something mega mega flop flips It's right was the whatever they call it at the square feet per whatever. Yeah, so that's four dollars at the well $3 and 49 cents as of oh, it's down a little bit. Oh You know that by the time it comes to your house... I don't even remember getting to $4. It's always been floating around $350 to $375, something like that. So this is, you know, it is going to inch up a little bit. It's depressed, by the way. That's a depressed price. Yeah, it is depressed, yeah. But I guess the real problem is, you know, the whole climate change thing, if we... See, if we don't have... We have alternatives to what we're doing now. We have natural gas, which is probably going to become expensive when the depression on the price stops. We have nuclear as an option. People are banking on that. I mean, they're hoping to God that it becomes expensive. Yeah, because they're losing their shirt on it.

05:39 You're right, everybody's losing money on this natural gas. So they really got to make this nuclear thing really, really, really scary because if we don't die from, if we don't have actual bodies to show for this nuke thing, then people might start thinking about it. No, I think the logic here is correct. Because they can't seem to get this natural gas thing to work out. No. And also because much of it comes from fracking, which is a nightmare, public relations nightmare. Well, no, it's only for those people who... Because you know, the exploding tap water. And people fall into sinkholes and earthquakes are occurring in places that never occurred before. Yeah, that stuff, yeah.

06:19 So I think they're beside themselves. But it's kind of fun to see where you have people who obviously care about the environment and I will point out that people say, you guys don't care about the universe, the environment. Yeah, we do. Who's that guy? Yeah, he was on Bit Message. That guy again. He pops up from time to time. That guy gets too much attention. You don't care! You don't care about the environment! Yeah, I know, of course we care. I have a kid. John's got kids. Of course we care about the environment. But we also care about not being bullcrapped. And you can't have it both ways. You're either going to die from global warming and we have to do something. And if gas is not going to be it, then what's it going to be? Is it going to be solar?

07:07 Which I think solar, quite honestly, does have a place. Yeah, it'd be wonderful in Washington State. That's not the place I was thinking of. It does have a place, it's called Arizona. Texas is really great for... Texas is good. Yeah, it's kind of like I'm hearing the these things are working out better and better, but still you know when the Sun goes down That's it. What are you gonna? Do you really can't write the house on batteries? Can you I mean that's well? There's these battery systems there you run cars on batteries You can do the same thing with your house, but it's kind of expensive Yeah, they have the kind of batteries you need to power the house. Oh yeah, yeah, I

07:48 So yeah, so this the IPCC reports coming Al Gore already out there in full force talking about it and that was quite funny Who's the what's the guy's name Ezra Klein? Is he the is he at a Times reporter? Don't it sounds familiar as reclined so he as reclined interviewed Al Gore because of course you know this is all coming up now and and so the new IPCC report is going to I guess Contradict the whole idea that weather is not climate because of course all these violent storms. We've had they're all part of man-made climate change and in this and unfortunately this is only a written interview and

08:28 With Al Gore, I quote from it. Would there be hurricanes and floods and droughts with man-made global warming? Of course! But they're stronger now. The extreme events are more extreme. The hurricane scale used to be 1 to 5, now they're adding a 6. The fingerprint of man-made global warming is all over these storms and extreme weather events. Unfortunately, there's no 6. It doesn't go to 11. Nor is anyone planning on adding a 6. And so for Gore to say that they're adding an extra notch on the scale just in time for his report is of course incredible. Bullshit! And then Ezra Klein came back the next day and said, no, no, I transcribed it wrong. Oh.

09:14 But wait, he transcribed their adding... Wait, here's the quote. They're adding a six. I transcribed it wrong? What did he say then? They're adding a zero. They're adding a 5.1. Hold on, let me bring up his mea culpa. That was funny. Transcribed it wrong. How is that a transcription error? Well, unless he made it up. Well, let me let me go to I have I have written down here's I'm gonna tell you what he said wrong on Wednesday I published an interview with Al Gore in which he mentioned that the scientific community was beginning to consider category 6 hurricanes The line has attracted some criticism I'll say because there are no official plans to add a sticks category to the 1 to 5 scale here's what I had Gore saying then he goes in this whole thing and

10:08 He says, uh, I'm out of town away from my tape recorder. So I asked Gore staff about the line So apparently he didn't have his tape recorder and I guess he was transcribing it from memory The whole thing is can't someone just admit that that Gore said something stupid? No, can't be done Gore probably said it and then denied it later after he was discovered. Yeah, and conveniently there's no tape recorder nearby. Yeah, right. Just, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, this makes nothing but sense. So Gore's full of crap. This guy won't call him out because he's on board.

10:46 Yeah, okay, but but it all ties in you've got the you've got the the nuclear thing We really got to be afraid of Fukushima. We're all gonna die and again. I'm you know when you go then I'll know I was wrong Yeah, well here for a while. I can guarantee you that it's gonna hit you first my friend Probably hit it probably important. You can't don't eat any fish. Yeah, I got the Geiger counter. I'm not worried There you go What you been up to? So we've got a conundrum on our mailing issue. Of course people if they didn't get the newsletter that was sent out yesterday, they should go look around for it because it's probably somewhere. So I put in the newsletter and we talked about on the show these

11:34 This craziness is now going on and what's interesting to me is that it is completely inconsistent. Yeah because we have some providers like Outlook, it's not showing up anywhere, it's not even getting into spam I think. Well here let me read a couple of the notes. In fact it is getting it through some and then some others is not. This is what's weird but this is happening with all the carriers. This is a Nicola says, congrats John, Gmail just upgraded the newsletter to spam. Yay! It was sent directly to the spam folder. We've been upgraded! I got it in Yahoo that's how I knew about this particular note.

12:17 So now Gmail's just throwing it in the spam. John, I have the new Gmail inbox style and he's getting it in the promotions. When I slide these messages from the promotion box to the inbox, the individual message moves across to the inbox and a box appears saying, undo, do this automatically for future similar message from the same sender. right clicking yes within five seconds should see us going forward I've had other reports that they try this and doesn't work I've tried it with a gmail account and it's still one into spam I to promotions I'm sorry this is Ryan 242 writing in hotmail is dumping this in the junk folder as far as I remember this is a fairly new development

12:59 Now there's a couple things. A lot of people think that they're not having a problem, but that's because they have an email client configured with their Gmail or Yahoo mail. So if you're using IMAP or POP3, you're probably not going to have this issue. Maybe. Although you might have the junk mail issue. Junk mail issue. Here's another one from Alan Asaf. He says, I'm an Outlook.com user, which is the new version of Hotmail, and nine out of ten times the newsletter gets moved to the junk folder. This happens even when I report to Microsoft that it is not junk. Yeah.

13:38 So that's what I consider the big problem, which is people are reassigning the status of the mailings and then they're paying no attention. So what? You're just a stupid user. Well, but I think it's worse because if you look at Gmail specifically, you'll see in the promotions tab, if you haven't, this only is really a problem if you're using the webmail interface, which most people do. I think I think it is convenient if you if you look at the top there you'll see that Google is accepting money to promote other emails now they're not may not necessarily be emails but they are listed in an email box at the top of your promotions tab and they're accepting money from people to be listed there and I find that to be the real the real offense here

14:29 Yeah, no, this is an extortion racket. They're essentially saying to you normal users of MailChimp or whatever mailing service you want to use, well, you know, yeah, you'd probably be throwing in a junk mail for a few pennies. You know, it's possible that we can maybe avoid that situation. This is thugs. It's very much like Facebook. Now, Facebook is not an email system, so I don't care what kind of racket they're running, but if you want to make sure that everyone who follows you on Facebook actually sees your update, then you have to purchase for $4 a promoted post.

15:06 And otherwise you know they determined they just came out with a whole new thing about their metric that you know how they determine what you're going to see. It's not who you follow, not who you want to see. It's what they think that you want to see. And if you want to really promote them. They have their nerve. If I'm following you, I'm following you for a reason. Do people even know this? Do they even understand this is going on? A lot of people don't seem to understand that it's going on. I have the, yeah here. I didn't hear from you. I must have missed it. I love people who try and invite me to things through Facebook. Like they have this invite thing.

15:43 Yes, so somewhere in between 50,000 other scam invites I'm gonna fish yours out of it and actually gonna gonna use it Let me see if I can find this. I hear it is buddy. I've always wonder why anyone even uses these invite Please subsystems, but just invite somebody I just call them up here Call them up. You want to come over? We're cooking news feed FYI showing more high-quality content Every day, people see content from millions of pages on Facebook in their news feeds. Our goal is to show the right content to the right people at the right time, so they don't miss the stories that are important to them. As part of what we want to make sure that the best quality content is being produced, surfaced and shared, our latest update to the News Feed Ranking Algorithm helps ensure that the organic content people see from pages they are connected to is the most interesting to them. Yeah, where's my hooker pages? I don't see any of that.

16:39 So how do we find highly relative content? Listen to this. How do we find high quality content? Well, while the goal of News Feed is to show high quality posts to people, we wanted to do better to understand what high quality means. To do this... Hey, wait, stop, stop. Start reading in that slightly surfer voice that you do. It's really exciting. The one I really like. Okay. While the goal of the News Feed is to show high quality posts to people, we wanted to better understand what high quality means. Like that? Oh yeah, that's it. To do this, we decided to develop a new algorithm to factor in the News Feeds. To develop it, we first surveyed thousands of people to understand what factors make posts from pages high quality. Something like that. I can't read. Some of the questions we asked included, is this timely and relevant content? Is this content from a source you would trust?

17:27 Would you share it with friends or recommend it to others? Is the content genuinely interesting to you or is it going to try to game the news feed distribution? Oh, people are gaming it, i.e. asking for people to like the content. Yes, like, like, like. That's what everyone does. Please like this. Yeah, there's pop-ups. The whole idea is to game the news feed. Anyway, so so and I you know, that's fine. Whatever Facebook does it's their own business And if you're sucked into that Mimi then it's fine Mickey If you really think people are seeing what you're posting but for it to be a part of email where you know That's the racket and you're right I'm sure that eventually, you know people who wind up in that box are gonna get a return email that says Hey, would you like to not be listed in the promotions tab?

18:16 It seems that would be the logical way to fulfill the scam. Yeah. Anyway, it is hurting our business. A lot of people did hear our call on Thursday. That's nice. Understood that we were getting being hurt by this, but I don't think it's over. Still have a low response rate on this last Saturday newsletter, meaning that most people didn't get it again. Now some people, there are some apparently if it goes through, if you get it off your phone or something it doesn't send back a notification so those numbers are, the more people that use phone to retrieve their email the more skewed the number becomes but that's

18:55 Not the problem. Okay, because it didn't that didn't change overnight, right? It's like one day everybody decided to pick up their email on the phone No, right now they've changed their filters on all these things. So everybody we're not the only guys that are having this problem I'm absolutely sure of it Everybody who's trying to do a newsletter and using the public internet to send email is being screwed by these free email services from these companies who are just Looking for some other way to make more money Very Encouraging though is the amount of emails I received from people saying hey, you know what I? Loaded up Linux on this old piece of crap laptop I got laying around and I think it figured it out and I'm able to send and receive email if you receive this then I was able to send you know some people and I had no idea what I'm doing. I'm just following the directions. They're out there Other people are going to I think Co labs is when you know there are other other places where you can go but eventually and you're still kind of

19:54 Stuck there with a man in the middle and lots of people going to bit message I'm getting a lot of a lot of stuff through bit message, which arguably is you know, no one can really wear down It's the weirdest but it works, you know People can actually get a message to me and I can get a message back to him. It's it's a I kind of like it I think this whole, you know bit torrent kind of central or decentralized thing is good I think we're gonna see more of that Yeah, but it's not for the general... Yeah, but you say that. But why? I mean, that's... Why? Why not? I mean... Why do I say that? Yeah. Why do you say... If it looks like email, if it smells like email, and the only thing is you have a different address, what difference does it make? I think people just can't deal with anything more complex than what they... You hold the human race in such high regard. What? What's that? It's Forvo.

20:50 Forvo? Yeah, you ever use it? No, what is Forvo? Forvo is the all the words in the world pronounced. So I was just looking at our spreadsheet for because we have a lot of we actually got a lot of response. But what is Forvo? What does it do? It you push a button and it pronounces any word you type in. So I can use this now to pronounce all these crazy Dutch names. Right, okay. Yeah. So I want to thank this, you want to thank some executives. Fuck you. Oh sorry, that's my Mac, it talks. Yeah it does. Well in the morning to you John C. DuBois. In the morning to you Adam Curry. In the morning to you Adam Curry. In the morning to all the shit. Seaboots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and barons and baronesses and dukes. Yes and in the morning to all of our human resources in the chatroom, nojennestream.com, nojennachat.net. In the morning. That's right.

21:48 Doug joining the show yeah, I don't know what for vo is but I got Doug I Got for vo oh and thank you to our artists Thorin came in for episode 541 with a great great piece of album art no agenda art generator.com is Now did was that an evergreen we used from Thorin? I can't remember because we had a hard time. I think I don't find it Yeah, let me see I think we had thing was tough. I Coming up with something and we used a one of Thorin's evergreens Yeah, we use them the Mac of the macaroni and cheese one So let's see what everyone comes up with today for five four to know agenda art generally we have to keep saying we're gonna discuss a little bit about the art for the artists a couple of things they need to know one Do not oh by the way. I also want to thank Patrick Buij

22:43 who are you to pronounce it I'm not gonna go to four of oh for it for the for the art that went into the newsletter because I use a separate piece in the newsletter and this is the one with the with the SWAT team on top of segways I thought was just funny piece anyway do not put the show number in the art people and because we will go back and pull out a piece of art but it's got a show number in it then it's we can't use it ever again so that you if you don't hit the home run on that one show you're never gonna have a follow-up the other thing you should note is that if you're gonna put type in there you have to look at

23:22 The noagendashow.com website and the size of the art that Adam uses. He doesn't, I use bigger piece, I use 400 pixel wide which makes it more legible but Adam uses like 200 or 250. Well no I literally shrink it down by 50% and we in the show notes we always have the full size art. And then we also and then you know, but for the for the blog post and on the on no agenda show.com as well as the art itself for the mp3 where we also put the art in one of the few shows that does that you know, it shrinks down so you don't want to have type, you know font that's so small you can't read it when it's downsized by 50 percent right so you have to you know, so don't use like

24:09 Don't design for the full size, design for half the size. right and uh... was there anything else that we had to do we're complaining to each other about uh... no but i'm glad you know we also know that people trying to get out of the show is going to be a well not the guessing is ok but that the but we have a hit it original art don't you know the taking something that's funny from somewhere else like that'll be great note that's not great as you're stealing someone else's stuff we want we want to read it in you yeah we had a bad let's see which we had the one with the uh... I think there was an evergreen with a person, it was a statue, here it is. It's Patrick again, which I assume he did a similar thing with those guys on the SWAT team. But here's what we do. We take, if it looks like you didn't do this art because it's way too slick for the... Yeah, we check everything actually. We're like, okay, this looks too good. Where did you steal it from? We put it in the Google image search as an image.

25:08 and what you can do with a little camera you click on the camera then you can upload an image and then Google looks around to see what other copy are out there on the internet and you see all the copies and it's like oh which is a million of these out there somebody did this someplace else so if it's not if you haven't changed it enough it will be I mean yeah we can check parity is always good obviously but you know and legal it's legal to take a artwork and make fun of it It's now a different copyright, but generally speaking most people don't know how to do that right, but yeah So we but we really appreciate this art coming in and some of the stuff is really good

25:48 Onward I personally don't think guessing what the show is gonna be about is gonna help because we actually lost We're gonna talk about the dog. I know wait before we do anything I have a clip about the dog so we can still talk about the dog. How does that sound? Yeah, here is the CNN the president did 45 minutes with CNN for well I think for a number of reasons and I pulled this one boat was getting lonely because the the two other puppies have grown up and and they still have some responsibilities for him but they're not always around with between school, sports practice, all that stuff and so Bo was starting to look a little down in the dumps. Yeah, now, but we actually know what's going on with this. Right. Because what's happening is they switch to the other Obama and Bo is growling at this one. So it looks really bad. Is that what you were gonna say?

26:38 Yeah, obviously the dog is not getting along with the second Obama. So he's growling and barking and howling, wondering where his other one is. Maybe he's even sniffing it up a mound of earth for all we know. I think down in the freezer down there at the White House. Someone's got something going on with that freezer. So they had to get a second dog. Now I put this in the newsletter on last Thursday knowing that I would say, I'd say anyone who's listened to the show for more than a year understands. Already got that or already figured this out. They said, I know what they're going to say. But that's the only thing I can tell. And then we forgot. Then we forgot to mention. We forgot to mention it. Meanwhile, a bunch of art came in. For the dog.

27:26 Well, you know, but you can't blame him for a guessing because I said in the newsletter that's what we're going to talk about. So it's very unfair to the artist for us not to do it. uh... because we teased it so it's our fault. Mayor Culpa but most of the time they're just guessing out of the blue did you hear this whole thing the president talked about the dog? he was actually pretty funny in this particular bit I mean you know the world is coming to an end pretty much financially there's all these things happening and we're contemplating invading another country but you know we got time to talk about the dog inside the house and

28:03 Sonny the new dog, she's only a year old and the truth is she's faster than he is, she jumps higher, she's friskier and... Every man has to learn that though. He said something weird, every man has to learn his dog? Is that what he said? That was kind of weird. Wait, play it back again, I think you said something, maybe you said something slightly different. I thought he said every man has to learn his dog. Every man has to learn the what? Don't know maybe it's being just a sexist thing cuz the ones a girl dog is trying to keep up But I think that ultimately it's gonna You know He's loving it and ultimately I think it's gonna be see it's talking a lot about the old dog He's like that. He's loving it. It's not that old three I think it's like that, but he just wants that dog to stop nipping at his heels. Oh

28:59 Here, come play with this dog. Just imagine. Go, go, go, get off, get off, get off. Quick, they're gonna see the difference. Get off. That's great for our book. All right, let's thank some producers. Thank goodness we have a lot of our existing knights, barons, dames, baronets, baronesses all coming in who hear the call. and have definitely evened it out for the week. But I see what you're saying. We have a lot of, of course, David Foley, the Earl of Silicon Valley, who's decided to adopt us, carry the show. Yeah. He's 60899 in the morning. Bartle and James from the Earl of Silicon Valley. This is 542 plus 6666 for the sixth anniversary, plus 33 cents for the Mac and Cheese Fund.

29:54 And by the way, the mac and cheese dinner is 39 cents. Is that cheap now? Is that the... I got photos. Where is this available? This 39 cents? Grocery outlet. Grocery outlet. So it's referred to as gross out. 39 cents. And is it a dinner? Is it for two? It says dinner. So it must be for two. It says mac and cheese dinner and there's no cheese and there's just powdered crap, which is really the... the absolute creme de la creme of the idea. Take it to the max. 39 cents, some powdered goo that you mix with water and then you heat it with the macaroni. Oh, you still have to provide your own macaroni? You do have to have a burner or a barrel fire. Sterno. Sterno. You need some sort of cheap thing to heat it.

30:44 Although I'm guessing that if you took this stuff and you soaked the macaroni long enough at room temperature, it would soften. I think you can use your crack pipe burner. That should probably work. That's going to be great. Wow. Well, thank you very much Earl of Silicon Valley. It is lovely. You also, of course, besides being one of our executive producers today, also receive the rare honor of being the sole member of the 542 Club. And your support is highly, highly, highly appreciated. Tell us, do you know what he does? I mean, he's got bank, Sir David. He runs Hyperware. It's a company in the Valley. Oh really? What do they do? Well, let's look it up and find out. He never really brags about it. Well, we can brag for him. Hyperware. It's Hyperware Technologies, isn't it? Yeah, Hyperware Technologies. Is he the CEO?

31:37 Hyperware. Probably. It seems like it is. Hyperware technologies. Okay, I've got a website. It's a big... It's not... It's just a website with just a page. Just their logo. I brought the CIA. Okay, we got that figured out. Okay, finally the CIA is giving us money. It's about time. All the support we give them. Hey, let me tell you this actually we had some bad news about that. Yeah, what? Let me bring up the email. I got an email from one of our guys and we are on the agency block list. Noagendanation.com, noagendershow.com are both being blocked.

32:17 Yeah, and this is the company that manages these networks inside the agency. It's Eagle Alliance It's a joint venture of Computer Science Corporation and Northrop Grumman And they're the ones that have that manage the block list so they've put us on the block list now the good news is Both curry.com and Dvorak org are unblocked and the stream is also unblocked. Oh So they can still listen live. So let me be straight. Northrop Grumman? Yes, has blocked off. Is it part of this deal? Yes. Isn't that the company owned by EADS or they're affiliated with the European Airbus Group? Yes, yes. They're not even Americans? No.

32:57 So in other words, a company affiliated with overseas ventures is censoring us to Americans trying to discuss these issues with Americans. Let me double check. I'm just going to look at Northrop Grumman. Our Heritage, Global, blah blah. Let me see where they're from. No, no, they're old, they're old, old famous company, Northrop in particular. And they were, as far as I know, they were bought by EADS or something like that. Look up the Wikipedia. Yeah. Northrop Wiki. Northrop Grumman. Okay. It's an American global aerospace, aerospace company. You may be wrong here. I might be. They're New York's, their NOC is their

33:53 No, they seem to be legit. Okay, well then it's alright I guess. No, it's not alright. Since you're American, go ahead, block us. I'm telling you, there's some arrangement they've got with the other side. I'm not so sure. What's the point of being in information technology to this point where they're doing blacklisting? Yeah, well because we're talking... Well, I have an idea. Okay, they're not owned by EADS, but let's just say they stink. It's a company that stinks. I think the drone talk that we do may have something to do with it. They're not so happy with the drone. They're kind of the drone guys. But it doesn't matter because how silly is it that we have 700 domain names that you can potentially get the show through

34:44 And particularly curry.com and the Dvorak org. I mean that's you that that site is malware I mean no should be touching that website So okay, we're good But anyway, we're very happy those of you at the agencies who who are listening and you take the time to circumvent The Northrop systems in the morning to you and thank you for joining us Right, but that was a long-winded one announcement. David, you're getting your money's worth. Mark Hrdy in Denmark, in Corsair, which is what I was playing on the Forvo site, 349, and he has a note. He wrote in, so I got a note from him. And I got a bunch of notes that people wrote to me. This was actually printed though, so I don't have to try to read it. No longhand?

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49:03 I don't know why the the spokesholes in the White House and the State Department, why they took this, you know, these two weeks off. I thought everyone was done with vacation. We had all these stand-ins. Did you notice that? Yeah. And we had, so Miss Psaki was not there. I know, that's a shame. I think she's having, she's probably having her heart transplanted. Well, I'm kind of happy with Marie Harf, who they brought in. Now, there's a reason for this because Benghazi, something happened here, Benghazi's back in the news. Here is the kind of the quick, quickie little headline. This has confirmed that Secretary of State John Kerry has cleared four State Department employees who were punished after last year's attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya. The four officials had been placed

49:54 on administrative leave by then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi attack. I'm sorry John, what were you saying? With full pay. Right, so they suspended them with full pay and they just switched jobs, we already had figured that one out. But now they're back and this is of course, you know, there's reason to question this. Now Matt was also on vacation So we had some other actors in the State Department briefing kind of shredding apart this... Wait, wait, hold on a second. What? Matt? No, Matt was on vacation. Yeah, I think he's off. The Reuters guy? Yeah, the Reuters guy, Matt. And you don't think it's a coincidence that he went off with Visaki? Of course! Okay. Marie, Marie... I guess there's one way to shut her up. Marie...

50:51 formerly was a spokeshole for the CIA. Oh, great. So she's not used to what goes on in this particular briefing room. No. Stated that Secretary Kerry, upon assuming office in February, launched this internal review of the ARB's findings. That disclosure in turn raises a number of questions which I'd like to go through with you in turn. Number one, who led this review of the ARB? Okay, well first I would like to clarify exactly what that statement means. You actually, you kind of have, I'd like to clarify what that statement means. You have to... What a squeaky voice. You have to get a picture of her because she has... Okay, what's her first name? Marie.

51:32 Marie Harf, H-A-R-F. And you'll see that she looks just like a Saturday Night Live skit. Oh God, I see her. You're watching this video and you're like, this can't be true. This is the onion. This is not really a State Department briefing, but it was! Secretary Clinton, obviously, was the secretary when these four were put on administrative leave. When Secretary Kerry came into office here, he basically picked up the ball. It was a continuation of that review that had already been started. He wanted to take the time to get all the facts himself. he wanted to take the time with his senior team to sit down and go over the ARB's findings in great depth and look into the situation of these four and their careers. And then he wanted to be famous and his dream came true!

52:17 Stop right there. Stop right there. This is where it gets fun. Listen to her freaking out. The statement said that he launched this upon assuming office. Now you're telling me there was an ongoing internal review of ARB that Secretary Clinton transferred to him? I think you're using the term review specifically. What we've been clear... Wait, let me finish, James. I'm using your statement. Okay, can I finish? Please. Thank you. Thank you. Can I finish? Please. Thank you. I mean, can you believe this is the basically the Foreign Services Department of the United States of America? The world's biggest or most powerful country? What are we? This is sad. At least Russia's got Lavrov. At least the guy looks the part.

53:04 This is she's well. I'm looking at this woman, so I did a little back check and she actually has been dumbed down Apparently some years ago with an implanted chip. She was a Ginger oh no she was ginger. Yeah, I got a picture right here. No yes. Oh my goodness I didn't know this let me check Marie. Oh, this is this is big news. Yeah, so she had no soul that they implant a soul and I think they should work on her voice box. I think she was more strawberry blonde to be quite honest. But doesn't she look like... That's a picture I've got. This is not strawberry blonde. Maybe it is, but it depends on your definition. No, no. Let's just call her Ginger. Screw it. Ginger.

53:48 She has she looks better with the darker hair. She looks kind of like a dingbat with the blonde hair She just doesn't carry it. I love the glasses and everything. She's got glasses are an attempt to make her look like a smart blonde If you ever watch the Larry David show, there's a just actually Buzzkill Jr. and I discussed this commonly because you can actually see it on the media. Larry David has this black sidekick throughout the show, especially the later shows. And he comes up with this thesis that if you're black and you automatically are thought of as an extremely intelligent black person if you wear glasses.

54:30 And so you'll see this on TV where there'll be some black guy wearing glasses and you will, and he's actually correct, you actually, you up your opinion of the black man wearing glasses. Interesting. Yeah, and so I'm thinking that this woman here, Harfa, She probably well you have if you really see the whole the whole sequence of her coming on stage and everything You're walking up to the podium. She's incredibly insecure. She's very worried So I wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me if these are non-prescription just you know hipster glasses if Starks She should have the one with the mustache attached. I would be even funnier. I

55:10 I think we made it very clear when four people were put on administrative leave that there was a Review process into them that was on just listen how she explains this. It's really quite disturbing Obviously, so that process was ongoing before secretary Kerry got here. That's been well documented publicly. I Point B is that when Secretary Kerry took office, he wanted to make sure that he himself and his senior team... He himself and my... and him and all those people in the senior team, him. ...did a thorough investigation into what had happened, picking up on the work Secretary Clinton had already done, but obviously he would be the one making the decision. So he wanted to make sure he was acquainted with all the facts and that we looked into all of the things that might go into a decision surrounding these four. Okay.

55:59 Now this now she's talking out of the side of her butt I mean, it's real. This is really poor for someone who was a spokesperson for the CIA She's doing a bad job. What was the actual scope of this review by Secretary Kerry? Was it just with respect these four individuals or was he reviewing the entire findings of the ARB again? I think you're using the term review in a way that I'm not using it. Oh What? You're using the term review in the way that I'm not using it, which is unfair. When I say review, he wanted to make sure he was well acquainted with all of the facts. He wanted to dive deeply into all of the issues involved with the ARB, which obviously now fell under his purview to make decisions. the

56:59 uh... at judgment on the air b that's not an at all what i'm insinuating that he was himself looking at the air b diving into the details and also i'd gathering other facts that may go into his eventual decision about these four p four you just stated earlier in response to another question from one of my colleagues that he did engage in quote additional fact-finding What did that entail were documents reviewed were new depositions taken what kind of facts all right? What could it be John what kind of fact-finding went on here? What what kind of extra information? Do you feel I even measure the size of the pages that were printed he used? Close enough close enough mission are we talking about? I think most specifically what I'm referring to is that we took a

57:43 he and the team took a look at the totality of the careers that these four individuals have had at the State Department. Again, they've served honorably, had a distinguished records, and all of that wanted to be taken into account when quite frankly you're making decisions about real people and their careers, he wanted to not only look at the ARB. You know, these are real people with real careers, you know, we can't just have them like being hurt, unlike the four people who were killed. That's just, that is just insane to talk like that. Well she's gonna be, this will be her last press conference.

58:20 Although over on NPR, it was very, very funny as they're trying to talk around, something happened basically on NPR regarding Chris Stevens, the ambassador of Benghazi who was slaughtered. Michael writes, if an openly gay man, Chris Stevens, can be appointed ambassador, and of course he was ambassador to Libya and was tragically killed. I don't believe he was openly gay. Oh, you just outed the dead man. Seriously? You just do that? I don't know what this is. This is what Michael writes. I didn't write that. I didn't write that. The question is there have been openly gay ambassadors. Let's say that. Yeah, okay. So we didn't really say. Now we never knew this. This is news to us. I thought it was quite well known that he was gay. I didn't know he was not openly gay. We never brought it up on the show. Yeah, no, of course we've brought it up on the show.

59:12 Well, I don't remember bringing it up on the show because it just seems to me that having a gay ambassador in a Muslim country is a sketchy decision. That's why we brought it up. I know we discussed this. Well, maybe. But there's still a difference between being gay and openly gay and then to be outed on NPR when you're dead. Openly, yeah. What does openly gay mean? It means that you've... Hey, I'm gay! That's what it means. Yeah, that you're out on Facebook. That you're, uh... That you're out on Facebook. Right. If it doesn't have anything to do with Facebook, then it doesn't count. Then it didn't happen. That's not Facebook. Yesterday or today, I think, in Gitmo Lowlands, they did a To Russia With Love Gay Pride protest.

1:00:04 They're not giving up on this thing. I'm sorry? They're not giving up on this. But also it's so wrong, you know, that just and all the press is it's yeah they have a concert actually now I'm seeing. I hope that the our CD people that do the No Agenda CD pull that stuff that thing you that letter that you read from the gay guy trying to prove you were wrong about the analysis of the Russian laws. Yeah. because it's ludicrous that this is continuing. We're not going to change anything, obviously. No, but they have entire concerts, the mayor is coming to speak and it's called to Russia with love and it's protesting the horrible anti-gay laws in Russia, which is just not true. And there's also a gala. There's going to be a gala? A big gala. Nice.

1:01:01 Alright, so you humiliate this poor woman Marie Harf. Yeah, and who are you gonna humiliate today John? It is Sunday after all. On the list for out and out humiliation. I do have a couple of... Well, let's see. Let's start with Amy Goodman. Oh, please. Yes. Now she is the, for those of you who are new to the program from other countries, she is a hoity-toity Amy Goodman. She's from Democracy Now! Can do no wrong. Can do no wrong because let's face it, it's Democracy Now! So she has, she is beside herself with this particular situation. Some joker, one of the producers put her in. She's got an interview, she's interviewing two people about Chelsea and Chelsea Manning or Chelsea Clinton? Chelsea Manning. Yeah, okay. And so she's got a, one of the two is a gay male who's had the sex change and he's now a female but he's become a lesbian.

1:01:58 and the other one is, and on the other side is a female who has turned into a male and he seems to be gay. Okay. So we have an incredible mixture of just like what is going on sexually with these two and why me, Amy, why am I having to deal with this? And the funny thing is that she could not shut herself up to just These two people as spokespeople, by the way, were fine. If you just ask them simple questions and who cares whether they're male or female, sex change or otherwise. They had good material to present.

1:02:36 But no, but she had to mess it up. Well, she was so upset. She was very upset. She could tell she was uncomfortable, which she shouldn't have been because both people were very, you know, as as as professionals, the professionals, they're there. They were there were a message, right? It got this thing across. But she had to start prying into how did you change? Why did you do that? Why did you have to cut off? And so she did it with both of them. And which and here's the reason that I noticed it. So in this manner is that we have Done the show quote taking quotes and stuff from her constantly where she will just essentially parrot a story not ask a single question that might be in the minds of the viewers. Right. Now the she did leave out the question which was in my mind when she started prying about you know what what sexual orientation of these people have besides what gender do they have because there's a difference between gender and sexual orientation so if you're a guy and you feel you should be a woman but you should be a lesbian

1:03:36 that there's a big difference in a guy who should be a woman and you know right it's not normal i don't know that this woman's a lesbian but she sure seems like it to me the guy that became the woman so let's go through can i just say something you have now thoroughly confused me i think i was meant that was what i was doing i was getting to confuse you all right well success let's start with uh... let's start with the amy Goodman awkward chat with Lauren, the woman whose name is Lauren. Let's begin with Lauren. So you have known Chelsea when she was Bradley. Talk about how you first got in touch Lauren and the relationship that you had online.

1:04:17 Well, she first got in touch with me in February of 2009 after viewing my videos on YouTube. She contacted me first and we spoke over AOL Instant Messenger for a period of several months. She was mostly interested in my videos about politics politics, religion, LGBT issues, and she felt we shared a similar mindset on these issues. And so we spoke at length about that. She opened up to me about her history, her dealings with her family, her troubles in school, and her decision to join the military and her role as an intelligence analyst. And we spoke at length about that job and how she enjoyed it and how it was working out for her.

1:05:00 Lauren McNamara, I wanted to turn to excerpts from instant messenger chats between you and Manning from 2009. At the time, you used the internet handle ZJ, while Manning went by bradass87. Manning writes, I'm politically active, even more so after enlisting. Living under don't ask, don't tell will certainly do that. You reply, yeah, I can't say I'd ever enlist for that reason in particular elsewhere. Manning writes, being around my platoon for Okay, it's just like you know that goes back and forth it doesn't get any further, but by the way Lauren's videos are you have to it's one of those that you know I might about once people don't know this but about once a week every couple of weeks I find one of these there's all these women on the internet that make these cheesy videos John sends them to me Saying there's talent we're missing out

1:05:53 So it's always done with the cheap webcam and the perfect... You've seen, everyone's seen these things. You got your head, your face into the camera and you're yakking about stuff. You know, it's a one-man show, you don't... And you just yak, yak, yak, yak, yak of things. And this is what the kind of video this woman did. She was one of those talking heads that would... Put them you know in a drip in a grim. It's always in a grim room And you know it's always slightly out of focus that they're horrible these videos so anyway, so Amy can't take it anymore So now we have the Amy asked transition question to try to get some information from her Can you talk about your own story Lauren how you made the transition? Yes, I started transitioning well at least in 2011 or

1:06:41 Who cares? So she, that's exactly right. This story is about Bradley Manning, so now because it's a liberal show they feel obliged to like have these people, it's like you shouldn't, what do you have the guest on if you're going to have him explain them, so she apparently now has standing to talk about this. The only reason I can think John is because it is meant to distract from what really is going on. Who cares? I'm not interested in that. This is the whole thing. We don't even know if Bradley Manning actually said this. We have no idea. He's incarcerated. He's in the shoe. Now Amy switches over to talk to this guy Chase

1:07:23 This guy's name is Chase Strangeo, like strange-o. So play the Chase Strangeo clip. Now this guy's got lots of interesting information. I had no idea. Chase Strangeo, you're a staff attorney with the ACLU. Can you talk about what Chelsea will now face? I mean, this very serious issue, Fort Leavenworth is a prison for men. Yeah, and I think what we learned yesterday from Chelsea was a few very important things. She has asked that she be referred to as Chelsea, that we use female pronouns when referring to her, and she has stated publicly that as part of her treatment for her diagnosed gender dysphoria, she will be seeking hormone therapy. And that's what we heard from her yesterday. The Army responded with a statement that they absolutely do not provide hormone therapy or sex reassignment surgeries related to gender. Why are they doing this?

1:08:20 Why are they doing this? I think they feel obliged to do it because we don't understand how many times there's gender anytime There's gender issues these the liberals could they get all worked up about it? You know what I do we're gonna skip the rest of that I want you to play I just say something if I was the producer of this segment with Chase strange Oh, yeah, after the I'd be like hey, could you could you come over? You know after we're done. Could you do a couple jingles for my podcast? He's got a very interesting voice. He's got a very interesting voice. So now she's so so Amy asks Chase about the term because she wants to know what the hell he's talking about. Explain what you mean by gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a

1:09:04 recognize mental health condition and a serious medical condition. It is in the DSM-5. It was previously known as gender identity disorder or GID. I can't get recognition by curiosity and we have gender dysphoria? D, which is what the army referred to it as yesterday. It is a condition that has clear set of treatment protocols including hormone therapy and surgery related to transition in some cases. These are not experimental uh... treatments these are not uh... new treatment and i a vital life-saving treatments for transgender individuals this is it this is all it is fascinating stuff and it's it's very interesting in a different context we have a guy who was sent to jail for thirty five years for essentially turning us onto the fact that we have a military industrial complex that is true and it's the screwing us and his killing people just and laughing about it

1:10:00 and the whole thing is is just insane and the state department is insane and the whole mechanism is out of its mind and this guy's being for been thrown in the shoe and and and somehow it's we cover this up by bringing this up and any goodman democracy now and the public broadcasting services television outfit is complicit in this. This is an outrage. Exactly. And so what does Amy do to get to the bottom of everything? She asks Strangeo for his story. Can you tell us your story? You're transitioning from woman to man. Why? This is really... Why? Who cares? Let me transition myself here for a second because this is...

1:10:45 What we're seeing here is people who are and Amy Goodman's an Obama bot no doubt about it now There's the difference between being a Democrat or Republican versus you know a crazy Black person hating KKK hood wearing Redneck and an Obama bot, you know, it's all kind of the same different sides of the same coin and And Amy Goodman is an Obama bot, and then we have, uh, this is, uh, what's her name on, uh, Eleanor. Eleanor on the McLaughlin group. Oh, Eleanor. She's a total Obama bot. Ridiculous. Right. So she's an Obama bot and of course, you know, the whole Snowden thing and the NSA spying comes up. And if you want to hear, and this is how you can recognize your friends and family by their Obama botness on the Obama bot scale, listen to this answer.

1:10:00 and the whole thing is is just insane and the state department is insane and the whole mechanism is out of its mind and this guy's being for been thrown in the shoe and and and somehow it's we cover this up by bringing this up and any goodman democracy now and the public broadcasting services television outfit is complicit in this. This is an outrage. Exactly. And so what does Amy do to get to the bottom of everything? She asks Strangeo for his story. Can you tell us your story? You're transitioning from woman to man. Why? This is really... Why? Who cares? Let me transition myself here for a second because this is...

1:10:45 What we're seeing here is people who are and Amy Goodman's an Obama bot no doubt about it now There's the difference between being a Democrat or Republican versus you know a crazy Black person hating KKK hood wearing Redneck and an Obama bot, you know, it's all kind of the same different sides of the same coin and And Amy Goodman is an Obama bot, and then we have, uh, this is, uh, what's her name on, uh, Eleanor. Eleanor on the McLaughlin group. Oh, Eleanor. She's a total Obama bot. Ridiculous. Right. So she's an Obama bot and of course, you know, the whole Snowden thing and the NSA spying comes up. And if you want to hear, and this is how you can recognize your friends and family by their Obama botness on the Obama bot scale, listen to this answer.

1:11:42 I don't think President Obama wanted to be the Democratic president that expanded the national security state. And the various disclosures that have come out since he made those initial statements in June saying he was okay with the balance have indicated that the spying, if you will, on Americans is more widespread than we all initially thought. And so I think he's open to reining this in. Those are all reasonable steps you outlined. I imagine Congress is looking it away, but I still think he's not going to back away from basically continuing the programs that his predecessor put in place because of the times we live in and that national security brief he gets every morning. Still able to slip in it was the previous guy who did it.

1:12:28 Oh yeah. Good work. Now to be fair on the show there's also the complete Repubble bot, Romney bot maybe we'll call him, Mort Zuckerman and he brings back our old 54 me. It used to be 50 then it was 52 now it's 54 I think. Yeah 54 is right. It's settled in at 54. Settled in at 54. The balance between privacy and security has been struck. Yes, I certainly do. I actually happen to be in favor of this kind of a program because I think of what would happen to this country if we had a half a dozen terrorist attacks every year. And that seems to me to be the concept. Every year? Does Obama know all the details of what they do? By and large, yes. I think, well, maybe not everything, okay? But I think he knew, based on the reports that he must have been getting, just exactly

1:13:14 the number of cases, they estimated that something like 54 different terrorist attacks were in fact interdicted by the knowledge that they gained from this. He had to be informed on all of that. Now can we just explain John about these 54 terrorist attacks? We have two or three, we have two examples and it actually explained in Congress that these are all bogus They tend to, the only ones that really took place in this country, they're set up by the FBI or one of them was a, they caught some guy trying to send some money overseas. There was no plot to do terrorism and this was discussed openly in hearings in Congress. So we have the clip.

1:13:55 and even before that we had a briefing clip of a briefing that was done before the Senate and congressional aides to get them to tell their bosses about certain things that was like deep background and the guy went over the 54 and they were all bogus there there are no 54 this is nonsense So he goes on and propagates that meme for a little bit and then just one final little thing and this is, Eleanor is yelling in this clip. Listen to what she's yelling. Young people and other people all of a sudden it looked like almost a majority are saying, hey the government's gone too far and Barack Obama's politically inclined so he's moving and moving and moving. He's been moving away from it. He's going to keep the basic program as Eleanor said. Maybe he didn't want to know about it. He's a constitutional lawyer.

1:14:45 He's a constitutional lawyer! Alright, now I look this up. What is a constitutional lawyer? A constitutional lawyer, which I think the president is not because a constitutional lawyer is an attorney who tries cases. Do we have any case on record that he has tried? I don't think so. A constitutional lawyer is an attorney who tries cases where constitutional issues are at stake. The Constitution is considered the supreme law of the United States, a form of federal law. Thus most cases based on constitutional questions are tried in the federal court system. I don't think he... well actually I have another link here. He taught constitutional law supposedly. He may have been a teaching assistant. We really never got this straight. But this whole idea... look I'm a constitutional lawyer. By those standards yes. Yes well here it is how to become a constitutional lawyer. Step one

1:15:38 Earn a bachelor's degree in history. Oh, well, okay. I'm not guess I'm not political science or any major involving research and analytical thinking Undergraduate degree is required for admission to law school. I can do this Yeah enroll in law school law school is a rigorous three-year program where you learn about constitutional law contract law property law blah blah blah Step three apply for constitutional law internships. I can get an internship on this show. I Yeah! After your second year of law, constitutional law internships are quite competitive, so make sure you keep a high grade point average. That's right. I won't hire myself otherwise. Work hard developing your personal professional networks. Take and pass the bar exam in your state. That's the tricky one. But you know this whole like, he's a constitutional lawyer!

1:16:25 He's not even a member of the bar anymore. So he's not, even if he was, no, him and Michelle both have been kicked out. I don't know if they're kicked out. That's one way. Well, they didn't renew. They didn't renew. Is that like a, really you have to renew your status? You have to do some process. You just, you don't get, they don't confer upon you the ability to practice law in some state and then you could just never, then move to France and then come back 50 years later and try a case. Because if you get your pilot's license, it's good. Good forever? Yeah. Now you may not be current, so you won't get insured unless you do a check ride, but that's... As far as I know, neither one of them are lawyers anymore. He's not a lawyer anymore, he's the president, but he's not a lawyer anymore, so he's not a constitutional lawyer. But it also makes me angry because it's the constitutional... the constitutional lawyer!

1:17:18 Who is, you know, who is... I think you got her voice down. I didn't realize that she sounded like an old idiot. She's a constitutional lawyer! From Long Island. Yeah, you know, he's the one that keeps saying that protecting the American people is his priority number one. Which is not true. So I found out a, you know, there's been this little feud, now this is kind of, should almost go under real news. Not quite, but... Well, do you want it or not? Yeah, I hid it anyway just for the purpose. We haven't heard it for a while. And now, back to real news. Nice. So, Don Lemon has been getting into a beef with Russell Simmons.

1:18:02 Russell Simmons is the black guy who's like responsible Simmons was a boy. He was part of run DMC Was he not was he not the he is the the he is the number one is that the hip-hop? Yeah rapper King yeah, and he's a but he's mostly a style of He creates styles that the blacks, oh, let's wear that, and you know, whatever. Well, he sells debit cards to people, and I think he has perfume. He's a money machine. So he got into a beef with Lemon, who called him out for the stupid, the sagging pants

1:18:40 thing and so what happened is Lemon... John, really what are we doing here? This better be really relevant. No, the only reason I'm playing this clip is because there's a piece of information in this clip that I never knew and I said oh that's interesting that's all you're gonna come away with is oh that's interesting I didn't know that but I'm gonna give the background on it anyway. So what triggered this whole thing was Lemon did one of these op ads on the air on the weekends playing a clip from Bill O'Reilly and saying O'Reilly's right about this and it was some critique of the black community which he you know didn't have standing to do but Lemon gave him standing by. Simmons got all bent out of shape about it saying the guy's a sellout and he's letting the right-wingers push him around and he goes on and on so Lemon comes up with this little ditty which I thought was it's interesting because it

1:19:29 I think it's a pretty good slam and there's two or three pieces of information I never actually knew. You also wrote, young people sagging their pants today is no different than young people rocking afros, daishikis or platform shoes in the 60s and 70s. Russell, Afros came out of the struggle, the African American Civil Rights Movement, and are a symbol of the appreciation of black beauty and the black aesthetic. Dashiki is a traditional form of West African dress which symbolizes African pride. Sagan, by the way Russell, the hip-hop community of which you helped establish, dropped the G on the word so that spelled backwards the word reads N-I-G-G-A-S.

1:20:14 It came from Rikers Island in New York, one of the largest attention centers in the US. It was originally called Wearing Your Pants Rikers Style. When you went in, you turned in your belt, your shoelaces, and the only shirt the jail provided was a white XXL t-shirt. Are you equating dressing like a criminal to African pride? Are you saying it's okay to perpetuate the negative stereotype of young black men as convicts, criminals, prisoners? How does that enhance their lives or society as a whole? I'm still gonna for this whole this is a very political. It's funny to hear this political correctness coming out of Don Lemon Yeah, because Elvis Presley of course was part of the movement that propagated jail in general wearing blue jeans blue jeans was only for prisoners so you can you know and an e-boots you can keep them going with this is Wow Hey, what's the guy's Zuck Zucker Zucker? Who's the guy who's running CNN?

1:21:17 Good job, dude. Zucker. Good job. Wow. That's getting some attention. Meanwhile, over on Over on the what's that Larry King has his talk show on this new network. It's not a talk show It's a it's a it's a advertorial isn't it's just a bunch of advertising stuff. No he had he had Ellsberg on well why don't they put King back on CNN? He's much better than than Piers Morgan even if he was 90. I don't know I don't know I don't care actually because I found Larry King and he's talking to Ellsberg and Ellsberg made me do something which I typically don't do and

1:21:56 And I'll tell you in a minute. Well, I think there's no better way. So, you know, Ellsberg is, of course, the guy who's Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers. And the Pentagon Papers were compared to this really not even that fantastic. You know, it showed that the government lied like Lyndon Johnson had already positioned troops, you know, a week before he said that he discussed it. And, you know, these are all minor things compared to the lies and deceit that the past four presidents in my lifetime have committed. So it's really, really minor. And then he gave it to the New York Times and it was basically an internal review. So it wasn't really, you know, he just took some papers that already exist and that said, you know, he's largely responsible for writing. Yeah. Well, did he? I'm not so sure he was the lead on that.

1:22:45 He's one of them. Right. But it was a report that was written inside the Pentagon and so that got leaked and nothing really happened except, oh boy, I guess that was the chink in the armor. Anyway, so he's heralded as you know as a hero which yeah I think that Bradley Manning could be one and if he's if he's real and if Snowden is real then yeah because they're exposing lies and deceit and so here he is telling us Where to find out more about what's really going on Americans to have a real sense of where we've arrived than to do what I did a few weeks ago, which was to re-rent a movie enemy of the state and

1:23:29 from 1998. I'm in that movie. You'll remember that. I'm in that movie. You're in it. I'm in that movie. On the end of the movie. That's right, at the very end of the movie, after... I'd bang five actresses. During which an innocent person, Will Smith, has been pursued by all the technical surveillance capability of the NSA, which by the way... Now this is interesting, two things. One, Agent Orange and several other handlers of mine have suggested exactly this. If you and this is you know, this is movies with 15 years old like oh you gotta watch that movie again Cuz then you know kind of you know, what what's really going on? What what is really happening and what is possible? And do you know that this movie is not available on Netflix nor is it available on Amazon for rent a streaming? You have to physically buy a copy. I did not know that and you know who directed this movie and

1:24:27 Well, as a matter of fact, uh... Tony Scott, who committed suicide just a year or so ago. Right. Remember that was really weird and he jumped off the bridge and they said he had brain cancer but his family was like, no, he didn't have any cancer. Now, I've got nowhere to go down that rabbit hole, but it is kind of coincidental. Yeah, interesting coincidence. So now here's Ellsberg talking about the movie and how that relates to our life today. A little ahead of its time, but which it definitely has it now. It's a very realistic movie right now. I'd like to see it reissued and have every American see it. But after he's been pursued by all this innocently,

1:25:05 by some actual rogue NSA, National Security Agency factions. At the end they have you on the screen asking the question, where do you draw the line between the gathering of intelligence that the government has to have and the protection of civil liberties, particularly the sanctity of the home? And you end with a kind of heartfelt cry, you have no right to enter my home, come into my home, right? But as you know, I'm sure, They're in your home right now, Larry, and mine. If you have an iPhone in your pocket, I don't know if you have it right now in your kitchen or your bedroom or you're charging in your bedroom at night as I do, the NSA, the National Security Agency, can store, record and store all of your conversation, any of your more generally, if you have a computer in your home, your tweets, your email, your purchases over online, your Google searches.

1:26:03 All of that, including your iPhone or smartphone as a GPS, all of your movements is all on record to be retrieved at will. When the president says we don't listen to your calls, sort of has his fingers crossed. It's true they don't listen in real time. That would take half the population of the United States listening in to every two people who are online together. What they do is Tivo it. They have it on file and they have your entire digital record at any time. Now that's the infrastructure of a police state. We don't have a police state or you and I wouldn't be talking to you right now.

1:26:42 but they could turn this into a police state overnight. I really like what he said there. I think that was... Yeah, well, he didn't say anything that we haven't said on this show. No, no, no, of course. In fact, this is exactly when this all started. And I think you were the one that had the whole analysis about how they're just recording everything. By the way, Larry King was confused. He was not in Enemy of the State. He was in Enema of the State, which was a porn that he just didn't know. He was confused about that. That was bad. Yeah, that was really bad. I could have done better. In fact, I'll give you this. And here's Ellsberg wrapping it up. What it does do is to put into the hands of the executive branch the ability to blackmail every person in the country and more and turn them into informants as was done by the Stasi in East Germany.

1:27:35 And that's the lesson so I have so I've torrented this movie of course I'm gonna watch it again because if I recall correctly it pretty much predicts the whole Snowden affair it is art Imitating life in advance or life imitating art or art imitating life. God knows. It's it's exactly what's happening now well, I'll tell you we're gonna go to the Here's we had that guy wrap up for last show I do have a clip that was one of the clip that was involved in the in that back and forth between him and the This podcast but just just as a background or play this little clip, and then I wanted to mention something

1:28:13 NSA gets more money, play that. Yeah, I know exactly where you're going with this. I like it. In April, as part of its 2014 budget request, the Pentagon, which rules the NSA, asked Congress for $4.7 billion for increased cyberspace operations, nearly $1 billion more than the 2013 allocation. At the same time, budgets for the CIA and other intelligence agencies were cut. Right. This is the whole this is the crux of the problem. This is the problem and let's say that the NSA has been really doing a good job of because they Sell oh, we don't need all these field people. We don't need you know, the NSA is the one who caused the 9-11 if you were gonna if you're gonna boil it down because if you remember right after 9-11 all these guys all these second-guessers all these armchair quarterbacks are going on. Oh the CIA

1:29:05 He hasn't even got anyone who speaks Arabic. They haven't got any translators. They haven't got anybody in the field. They haven't had an agent in Syria or Iraq or anywhere. Can I interject just this one, 30 seconds then? Yes. Could you bring this up? Here's Robert Mueller, who is doing exit interviews now apparently with CNN, specifically about this topic. If we had the kind of intelligence that we were collecting through the NSA before September 11th, the kind of intelligence collection that we have now, do you think 9-11 would have been prevented? I think there's a good chance that we would have prevented at least a part of 9-11. In other words, there were four planes, there were almost 20, 19 persons involved, but I

1:29:48 I think we would have a much better chance of identifying those individuals who are contemplating that attack by this mass collection of information. By the various programs have been put in place since then. Do you? There you go. So they've rewritten history on this because I've distinctly remember all the discussions that were going on and most of it was critical of the CIA not the NSA and the NSA was collecting all that stuff back then they've been doing it since they got formed. This is also the FBI guy talking so you know take that as a grain of salt. The FBI seems to be in bed with the NSA. as opposed to the CIA which in fact because we talked about this before where MI5 and MI6 are closely interlinked, the FBI and the CIA have always had a wall between the two. You don't have guys going back and forth but there's never been a wall between the FBI and the NSA and so they're working together so you have the spokeshole essentially for the NSA here. So what's going on and here's what's interesting.

1:30:46 is that this movie that we're talking about was done in 1998. I would suspect that this situation where the CIA keeps getting less money, less resources, is marginalized by the guys who are cooler, let's just face it, in terms of high tech and all the rest of it. They have three challenge coins. they got a bunch of challenge coins, they got cool cha... well they did, CIA's got a bunch too, but they got cool cha... but they got the computers and they got the Ford Meade... Data centers... This huge thing in Utah that is ludicrously monstrous, gonna... we can collect everything and they're creating a kind of... And they have the goods on everybody. They're the... right, the blackmailers. Yeah. And so the CIA meanwhile I believe may have been behind the movie Enemy of the State, did

1:31:34 no good whatsoever to help their cause to get some more cash in their coffers so that's why they have to do the poppy fields thing which is another movie. So they are the Silk Road is what you're telling me. They're saying you know we need the money. and so they're you know we've talked about this before there's lots of evidence the CIA is involved with the poppy growing into the Afghanistan area but it's like for the it's basically bottom line income that they need because they're getting screwed by these NSA guys and they can't seem to do anything about it and if you want to take Tony Scott for an example it would be the NSA who killed him, just to show the CIA that they can do that kind of thing too. And so this showdown between these two agencies is really fun to watch.

1:32:20 It is I have to say I just like everyone to wear a little flag so you don't have to guess each time Who are you and I say I'm CIA just like like do bloods and crips. You know like where? Exactly what's ones red and ones blue so so this is I think that's true, but it's funny I forgot that I always thought the enemy to say was about a CIA deal, but you're right And it's specifically in it, and it's not on iTunes. It's not on Netflix. This is 1998 and it was a It was a hit movie. Huge movie. Why is it not available? Is this, is it an embarrassment? Is there a reason? I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, it just seems like that would be, and by the way, it came down pretty fast. There was a lot of people seeding this movie.

1:33:06 You mean you just did it. No, I did why did it last night and I started I started watching it and I'm like Oh, yeah No, cuz you know just that whole opening scene where they you know where they you know shoot the guy in the neck with the with the syringe and then Let his Mercedes roll back into the water and the dogs bark and they make it look like he's suicided From I was like, oh now I remember this movie. I I'm still gonna watch the whole thing again because there's gonna be lots of nuances I think that I can pick up that maybe I didn't see before and that's what like oh wait a minute and Tony Scott it didn't wasn't it like a year ago or maybe it was it two years ago when did he commit suicide? It was less I think it was within the last year. And it was weird it was really weird. It was offbeat yeah it didn't make sense. Meanwhile David Marconi. It was a year ago 19th of August 2012. Well there you go it's exactly a year ago.

1:33:55 coincidence. David Marconi, the writer of the story Enemy of the State, really didn't work again for 12 more years when he did... Really? Yeah, he did live, well actually he did the story for Live Free or Die Hard, which was another computer-oriented NSA kind of story and only got a job as a screenwriter in 2010. So that's 12 years and there's some crap. He's like basically, he He had like a bunch of good movies, Rumble Fish, The Outsiders, G.I. Joe, which was not great but it was a money maker, The Harvest, Enemy of the State, and then Nothing. I mean, why is that? I don't know. Anyway, yeah, this is going to be interesting to see because it's spy versus spy but...

1:34:41 The NSA's got the money, they got the blackmail angle, they're spying on the US public so they can get their way. Not only that, I mean, now that this comes out... Now eavesdropping on love interest has its own spy label. According to the Wall Street Journal, several officers with the NSA have used the agency's sweeping surveillance capabilities to spy on love interests. It's dubbed Love Int, as in love intelligence. Now the report says the violations involved overseas communications, usually on a partner or a spouse. Yeah, sure, whatever. Dianne Feinstein admitted this. She says that once a year she gets a report which means

1:35:23 It's real easy for them to do. This is just it's easy. It's just a matter of pressing a button Yeah, no, there's a little there's a form you fill out the form who you know you have form It's not a paper form. They just know it's a form on the computer You go on the computer you type in a bunch of shit, and you get a report. It's a form really It's a form is it like yeah? There was a whole scandal about is one of this note in sight it was showing how to this slide show showed how to fill out the form the Lotus notes form No, it's just a form. You just need the person's name and the phone number. You just do a name and phone number, you got everything you want. I love it. Good to go.

1:36:03 And you know again they've been violated, essentially it's against the law what they're doing. That's the whole point of it. Nobody wants to be psyched. Blackmail is against the law too. Yeah, but the talking point has changed and I have a, and this will wrap it up for me, so here's Mueller again on his exit interview. And they're tailored to do that. We've given up some civil liberties though. It's gone from constitutional rights to civil liberties. This is a very egregious change in the fact that it is a constitutional right that we have to not be searched and our stuff not be searched, although we give a lot of that up when we use Gmail and Google stuff and that's your own damn fault. It's in the terms of service.

1:36:54 But there is a lot of stuff that is completely against your constitutional right, which is now being called civil liberties. I would query about what you mean in terms of civil liberties and what we have given up. Yes, do we exchange information in ways we did not before? Absolutely. You can say that is to the extent that you exchange information between CIA, FBI, NSA and the like. You could characterize that as somehow giving up liberties, but the fact the matter is it's understandable and absolutely necessary if you want to protect the security of the United States. That's right. Absolutely understandable. That's how it works. It's just understandable. We get it. You want to protect the...

1:37:32 We want to protect the United States. And then the president in his little... Everyone's on CNN these days. I guess they just gave up. It's like, you know, we got no rating so let's just take the money from those guys. And of course everyone's been on the take. Now we know that Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, I don't know if Apple but I wouldn't put it past them. You know, they've all just essentially been taking money per customer that they sell out. You know, they've taken millions of dollars, Facebook, taken millions of dollars to change the system so that they can be accessed or they can deliver whatever needs to be delivered. And then there's a per-user fee, per-request. It's good money. Good money. And here's the president. Mistakes are made and it shakes your confidence. Yeah, but I think it's important, for example, this latest revelation that was made. What was learned was that NSA had inadvertently, accidentally pulled the emails of some Americans

1:38:26 in violation of the Constitution of the United States their own rules. Oh, I'm sorry. Their own rules. Because of the technical problems that they didn't realize, they presented technical problems they didn't realize those problems to the court the court said this isn't going to cut it you're gonna have to improve the safeguards given these technical problems that's not exactly what the brief says from the court even although heavily redacted the court kind of said it's constitutionally unjust and illegal not just this ain't gonna cut it that's exactly what happened so the point is is that all these safeguards checks audits oversight worked. It worked. What I recognize is that

1:39:14 We're going to have to continue to improve the safeguards and as technology moves forward That means that we may be able to build technologies that give people more assurance. What do you think that means? I think it means ID cards or something if you know, we're gonna as a technology improves We'll be able to give now give people safeguards. It gives them. Let me just listen to that again what I recognize is that we're gonna have to continue to improve the safeguards and safeguards. Improve the safeguards. Here's the reason because if you've looked at those PowerPoints about how you use the system to get information, it's you know if you use just name and phone number people change their phone numbers a lot. If you had an ID card with besides a social security number which should do the trick it seems to me.

1:40:06 But if you, but a social security number that's in some other sort form of ID, so it's, I don't know, they gotta have something to make it easier. So if you, if I wanted, cause here's the problem, there's too many Adam Currys out there. Yeah, there's quite a few. There's some kid playing football at high school somewhere named Adam Curry. There's thousands of Adam Curries and it's like, and you've moved around enough that you have somebody plugged in one of your old numbers and probably owned by somebody. No, no, no, on my credit report, There's still some guy in Florida, Adam Curry, who sucks. And I can't get it off. I can't get rid of it.

1:40:44 Yeah, well this problem, and these are data collection companies that are only focused on one simple thing, and they can't do it right. The NSA is trying to record all your conversations, grab every chat you've ever done, grab all your Facebook data, all your phone calls and bury them in some file off of whatever number it is. This has got to be a nightmare for retrieval. I mean, yeah, you could probably do a job and figure out this guy's having an affair with somebody and you can bust him. But generally speaking, I think that they need to simplify the overall system so as for data processing purposes, so that people can have, so in other words, you won't be Adam Curry someday in the future. This isn't tomorrow, but this would be in the Red Book someday in the future. You'd be Adam Curry 1773. 1999.

1:41:29 Like the gmail accounts. No, Dvorak is already taken. You can use Dvorak 242. We're so sorry Mr. and Mrs. Curry. You can't name your kid Charlene. She'll have to be Charlene 7952 Curry. Thank you. Resume normal activity. And since people are making up names anyway like crazy, it's like I can see, you know, first you got to scare the public to death. You can make the argument that, you know, we're all going to die because we don't know who anybody is because there's no positive ID. Look at this Adam Curry. He's not the same as this Adam Curry. This is confusing. This is no good.

1:42:11 Yeah, it's a good science fiction story. John, let me ask you this. Do you see an end to this? Do you see a simple way that this can just end? I mean, is there anything that can happen that can just end all of this? That can just make it go away? Well, it had to be a combination of things. One, you have to have an economic collapse. So it puts pressure on the budgets. And then when things started falling apart and then people were getting bitter because there was, you know, you start laying off people at the NSA, you're going to have some shit coming out because these guys are going to, well, that's not right. Why am I getting laid off? I'm the best IT guy here in this department. What is this kid? You're only hiring him because you get, you get him to work cheaper.

1:42:51 And he comes out, I mean they'll find something that's really scandalous. And then they'll have to do a re-evaluation. I mean it's not going to really end because we've been a security state since 1947. It's just becoming more obvious. But they could back off a little. Is that the only way it could go? There's nothing else that could happen? No, nothing else could happen. Unless there, I mean you could have a revolution but this public is so pacified by the Kim Kardashian phenomenon and things like that. Never happen again. They'll eat beans from a can and mac and cheese before they do anything. Kim Kardashian is going to eat her placenta.

1:43:34 I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. This is what the slaves are watching on TV. What? Yeah, I know. It's bad. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. I'm not kidding. That's the promo. It's been running all weekend. Is it gonna be live on TV? I hope so. Oh God. I hope so. See, this is the problem. This tells you where we're headed as a country, as a culture. Meanwhile, we have people helping us out. Dennis Dal Praw in Waterton, Colorado, $111.11 says that he does have a note. Again, it's in the pile. I should take the notes I've read and put them over here. He's lucky because we don't always read notes from people who are non-executive producers. Right, but when they send them in, in the mail... No, okay, so if it's longhand...

1:44:30 Well, this is typed. It actually looks like it was typed by an IBM executive. No, an executive. It's got the proportional spacing. I'm guessing it might be. I've been fretting for some time I should show my support in more direct ways but always seem to lose the sense of urgency after a show episode. However, something John said today was all the catalyst I needed to stop being a douchebag and send a check. John mentioned that the reason donations were down recently could be related to the fact that he that this is peak vacation time for example all of France has gone on holiday holy crap I thought if I don't donate now people might think I'm French yes if you're not donating you are suspiciously French

1:45:19 So that was Dennis. I like that. Definitely a letter worth reading. That's funny. So that's $111.11. Mac Tank in La Jolla, California. $100. Show's been awesome lately. Keep it up. Thank you. By Stephen Powers in Midlothian, Virginia. $100. Arthur Gobitz in Zondam. Zondam. Zondam. Shandong. Yeah. He says he doesn't need a de-douching yet. Lon Baker, $100, Emeryville, California. I can wave and see, you can wave back. Matthew Zasphier in Williston, Vermont. $99.99. David Roberts, $88.88, Norristown, Pennsylvania. Mark Milliman, $88.88, in Longmont, California. Mark did send an interesting note. He's also wrote, this is a check that came in.

1:46:17 I was able to receive decent service from my last company so I can contribute a little job for a little job karma. I don't want anything else. We're gonna do all the job karma at the end. He's just getting by. He's lost his work and he's sending us money and then he sent in, I don't know what this is, but it is a bunch of codes. And it says promo codes iOS and it's a no agenda karma generator. Oh, that's isn't that what that's from Ron Boyd. That's right. Oh, oh, so we can get it. Well, then you can use your iPhone and then you can get the app for free. Just send it to me so I can scan it. You could also just type the numbers. But yes, go ahead. Scan it.

1:47:04 scan it, tie it, there's too many letters, he's got one, two, three, four, five of them. Scan it and then tie it, tie it to a pigeon. Fly bird, fly! Ryan Merritt, 8419 in Hoboken, New Jersey. Peter Tangstrom in Amsterdam, $77. He says, a slave scanner at Previum entrance Schiphol also avoided with the can't lift my arms trick. Thanks by the way, do you have the Wi-Fi producer's password for Schiphol? Yes, send me an email. We don't give that out on the air. Yeah, tell me I'll tell you can get it get on it wouldn't be good Nope, cuz it gets passed around every then everyone's using it Yeah, and it's and they didn't ever donate their contributor even listen to the show exactly Fabian Meyer in Zurich Zurich Zurich Zurich

1:48:01 K.O. yet? You got a bunch this time. Brian Barrow, Wooten Bassett, my favorite place in the UK. James Murray in Houston, Texas, also known as Houston in New York City. Ryan Showalter, Fresno, California. Vytautas Sadakas. What? Vytautas Sadakas in Vilnius in Lithuania. Oh, by the way, Ryan is Sir Thomas of the Apocalypse? Is he? Yeah, that's what I'm reading in the note. Please give a shout out to MyPile. I've looked at MailPile. I think they're doing a Kickstarter maybe. It's interesting. They're out of Reykjavik. They're in the right place to do that. MailPile.org I think actually. We'll look into that. Sir Thomas of the Apocalypse. Vilinius Lithuania. We got a Lithuanian. This is great.

1:49:02 Sam Manor in Box Hill, Victoria, Australia. Ed... John Evdeman in Sammamish, Washington. Aaron Yoho in Fermont, West Virginia. We're Raymond Vesseler and Arlington, Washington Now we have a whole bunch of six anniversary Wow, this is nice people are a lot of 66 dot 66 is mm-hmm. That's to help us on our celebrate our anniversary to help us on our journey to hell and

1:49:41 Ross Thomas, North Perth, Western Australia. Brian Curry, your old buddy from Cunel, British Columbia. You can contact him, brian at curry dot com. I set it up for him. Ralph Massaro in Kirkland, Washington. Black Baronet Sir Alan Bowes in Langley, British Columbia. Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Sir Bean in Thousand Oaks, California. Scott Amato in Davie, Florida. Robert Dimoff in London, the UK. Sloan, Cal, and by the way, he mentioned something. We did get some of these letters. One guy said, I never had a problem getting the newsletter because you're in my address book. Now, I don't know that that actually works because I don't know of any spam filtering system that's that smart.

1:50:32 No, I think Yahoo Mail might work that way, but I'm not sure. Sloan Kelly in Niagara Falls, slowly I turned, Ontario, Canada. Matthew John Kerry in Eastwood, South Australia. Francine Hardaway, she's actually Baroness Francine and she's irked that we're not giving her the credit she's due as Baroness. Yeah, that's an outrage. It is an outrage. She needs to be baroness. And next time she's, you know, I'll probably see her at South by Southwest and I'll, I shall carry her around town on my shoulders. She shows up for that? Oh yeah. She's a, she's way into technology. She's like an angel investor. She has Google glass.

1:51:20 Oh, that should be a disqualification for fairness. I'm still waiting for the nude selfies, but she hasn't done that yet. I'm waiting. She's in Half Moon Bay. There you go. Just a strange place. That's where Robert Scoble lives. Could be. And have we ever seen Francine Hardaway, Baroness Francine and Robert Scoble in the same picture? No, it's a shocker. But they do share the Google Glass. Same person? Matt Litsky in Tinley Park, Illinois. Road Wolf in North Tonawanda.

1:52:01 Cole Calistra in North Attleboro, Massachusetts Sir Kevin Webb in Carrollton, Texas Sir Sam Lung in Toronto, Ontario Matthew Janiszewski PartsUnknown Jason Doolin, Lost Wages Nevada. Doug Dodge, Oxnard California. And finally Eric Fredericks in Denver and James Raquel in Waterloo Ontario. And finally, last but not least, David Carey who I believe is a Sir in Winter Garden, Florida. We gotta get these Sirs worked out here. Finally we got, and that's the end of our 6666ers.

1:52:47 James Woolgamuth in Everett, Washington. Sam Manor, that's 5650. Sam Manor, double nickels on the dime, keeping that alive, which is appreciated. Appreciated. Because it's numerous box deals. And, whoops, hold on a second. Stacey, I use that a lot. Pru. Yeah, just Pru. Stacey Pru. She's up the street from you in Austin. Send me a picture, Stacey. Yeah, that way he can spot you at the farmer's market. Exactly. Thomas Woolforth in Asheville, North Carolina. 50 bucks. And he's, you know, he needs a de-douching. Let's just throw that in there. Okay, sure. You've been de-douched.

1:53:43 Macy Stolowoski in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Sang Ho Ji in Parts Unknown. And I do have a note from him which is written in Longhand. He sent it in, this is another check, but he's the guy, if you remember, he's getting special consideration here, because he's the one who wrote his first check ever. Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes. I think he also sent me an email actually. In the morning, John and Adam. First my name is pronounced, yes, okay, we got that. Can't commit to a night layaway plan. I hope to become a knight by my high school graduation. Wow. So he sent us $50. So he's in high school and started listening to the best podcast in the universe, asked for John's, John's sees about Adam's theory regarding Adobe.

1:54:34 and I haven't stopped listening. Not donating in a month makes me a douchebag, build up in my body. So just give me a de-douching for relationships, friends making karma for the school year since I have a strange feeling that not everyone will appreciate my awkward stats or state, my awakened state. The kid's wise as long as he's got it. Well, I got an email from him. Yeah, that I'd like to share that because he went to our nation's capital And he went to the National Museum of American history and he was disgusted. He said the whole place is compromised It's it's sponsored by you know, I actually sent a picture here Let me blow it up General Motors triple-a State Farm History Channel United States Congress Department Exxon Mobil UPS Foundation

1:55:33 So all and then you know 3m Vulcan materials it's just the list goes on and on and on and on and then he says no wonder No wonder the exhibit talked about how great electric cars were in the early 20th century and how global warming is the reason why you should buy electric or hybrid cars a real way to change history in the future with it here at the National Museum of American History And then he says he knows them to the yeah He's noticed a long line going somewhere. I decided to investigate. I saw it was a mobile soup kitchen Slaves were in line economy sucks and then What else did he have here just some vaccine stuff so do you and he's a high school? Yeah, he's a high school kid and He's that

1:56:21 He's awakened he says. Yeah. Michael Hazzard, Santa Clara California came in with 50 bucks as did Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia that's a be our contributors for today's show. Number 5429 and 543 is coming up on Thursday please continue to support the show you know we know everyone knows that this is the way the show gets produced it's not produced with any help from Vulcan Enterprises, General Motors or anybody else. Hey And only one on the list today and in case you were wondering people do ask from time to time Hey, you know, how do I get on the birthday list? All you have to do is send in a donation $50 or more gets you mentioned on the show regardless and we're happy to put you in in the birthday list as an extra bonus Matthew John carries his happy birthday to sir Josh Carey turning 13 on August 31st. Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe

1:57:22 And then we have Sir James Spitzer becoming the Baron of Jamaica Plain, Boston. We will reflect that in the show notes at 542.nashownotes.com. And even though I'm pretty sure he already is a knight, the note was confusing. So I'm just going to ask Sir Andrew Largeman to step forward, please. I think we need to ensure that you are properly knighted, my friend. So we hereby, maybe for the second time, pronounce the Sir Andrew Larchman Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable All you gotta do is step on up and we've got for you your hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, long haired heavy metal guys and scotch, wenches and beer, rubiness, rumen and rose, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkly cider and escorts, and your mutton and mead. And head on over to NoahJennaNation.com slash rings. Sorry? We have to mention Baroness Francine and put her on the same list with Spitzer. But I thought she already was a baroness.

1:58:22 Well, you know I don't care. I don't got her as many times as she wants. It doesn't keep you know Branson You need to send her a crown Francine Cole Scoble Francine Scoble We should send her a crown that I think that's a good idea send her a crown oh Nice Hey, thanks everybody especially those of you checking in for our sixth anniversary, which is coming up in October So and well, I guess we're gonna have a super long list of everyone who gave us Help us out with six six six six or as many sixes as you want. Hmm Somebody somebody was tweeting us that they wanted us to talk a little bit about Syria, which is becoming a joke Well, I don't know way way before we do that

1:59:15 We didn't play this clip last year. I want to play it. I still think it's a funny clip. This is Obama and the hecklers and this is where Obama's being heckled at some one of his speeches because there was somebody in the back was irked about Bradley Manning and then it became a fiasco and Obama has no sense of crowd control. As any middle-class family will tell you, we are not... I hear you. I got you. No, no, no, that's fine. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're okay. We're okay. Is he saying that the Secret Service? We're okay, we're okay, the royal we is okay, no worries? I guess. That's okay. Hold on, hold on a second. Hold on, hold on. Hello, everybody, hello. Kyle! Hold on. Hold on a minute. Wow. Hold on a minute, sir. Man. Hold on. Wow.

2:00:24 What's happening here? I didn't see this. What is it? What is actually taking place? Well people were protesting as a group with protesting the 35-year sentence of Bradley Manning and I guess this woman started yelling and then I guess the goons came in and then everybody because it's a liberal audience of the students they all got bent out of shape the goons so they all started making noise and the goons he had to back them off. Hey goons! This is good. So... Goons! You know Hold on a second Wow Can I can I just say that that as hecklers go that young lady was very polite She was and you know she brought up an issue of importance, and that's part of what America is all about Wow That's what America is all about shut up slave Get a lot of press no no I did catch a

2:01:28 He said something funny. I don't know if it was that was this at the school where was it Birmingham? I think some school. Yeah, he said he because he went off script. This is the problem and he said something pretty funny, you know when you get your your metaphors or your Your what do you call them sayings? What are they called? There's similes your metaphors your saying all that stuff. Yeah bromides and whose parents are under-resourced We shouldn't be helping them get a leg up And so some of the proposals we've seen now are talking about even deeper cuts in programs like Head Start, even deeper cuts in education support, even deeper cuts in basic science and research.

2:02:12 You know, that's like eating your corn seed. I think the expression is eating your seed corn. Your corn seed. It's really funny. Eating your corn seed. It's like, no, it's like eating your seed corn, which is like, you know, your basic You're a root corn. Yeah, we used to plant more corn. Yeah. You have to eat it because you're starving to death. Or maybe someone just wrote that incorrectly, which is also even funnier. Yeah, yeah, he can't even think, and he can't think for himself apparently. So I found this to be interesting. So to go back to the Syria thing, after this little aside.

2:02:57 Seems like a national treasure damned if he does damned if he doesn't you know and it seems like the only thing President Obama knows is if he actually goes into Syria Then it's over for him because then everything that that he all the facade that has been put up it will end you know it's it will just end because it's if if American troops go in and we're already there the ships are positioned and We've got the British ships over there and everything's ready to go. This thing is a tinderbox. He just doesn't want to get blamed. He wants it to be the international community, but really they're all BP, Total, Exxon, all the oil companies are ready to go. But they're making it really do it. Everybody's ready to do this and that, even though that's just for the pipelines because there's not much resources in Syria. It's just to stop everything there. The thing that's interesting, I'm starting to rethink

2:03:49 think these these so-called chemical attack that took place right when the I mean when the one was the one the video was uploaded before it happened yeah that one that one yeah I think is it you know cuz cuz Obama made the mistake of saying drew just drawing the line in the sand with chemical weapons if they do that red we're gonna do red line red line that red line that was that was a mistake and as you know I feel that chemical weapons are a good thing. Yeah, we're not going to go into that again. No, let me tell you why. Do you know that in 19... No, in 1999 in the state of Arizona we gassed a prisoner to death. We still, in California it is still the backup plan for the lethal injection.

2:04:40 We love the gas chamber, we love gassing people. Well that may or may not be true but the point is that Obama said he's going to do something with the gas and now all of a sudden gas is used in the most obvious way which makes me think the Russians are behind it. Now let's go and take a look at this PBS, this is the news hour, the National Treasures News Hour which we've decided is the one that Gates is futzing with because he was not giving them any more money until they jazzed up the show and had sound effects. they have this situation where they describe the gassing and they go and they tell you who's against it and everyone's all upset, the British guy, the French guy. Then, awkwardly, they mention the Russian guy's against it and unlike anybody else they talk about, they read a long quote from the Russian guy, which is actually interesting. The quote's interesting and it makes you wonder

2:05:35 You just get the feeling that you're being set up for something or other, but the Russians are definitely making their position clear. And I think that a lot of this going on, they're causing trouble. These guys are troublemakers. While we're playing this, can you do whatever you normally do when you keep cutting out on Skype? It's like something happened in there at the house. Am I cutting out now? Yeah, well yeah. Like I didn't hear you say Bill Gates and you keep cutting out. Okay, while you play that, I'm gonna go look around. Nice knowing you. And world leaders, including the foreign ministers of Britain and Germany and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, expressed shock at the chemical weapons allegations and called for a thorough investigation, as did Russia, which has protected the Assad regime by vetoing UN sanctions aimed at ending the violence.

2:06:41 In a statement, Russia's foreign ministry spokesman suggested the incident could be a provocation by the opposition, saying, Are you back? Oh, good, because I can say I love chemical weapons. They're much better than blowing people to pieces. It's so much cleaner, you keep the buildings, there's no mess to clean up. You know, you said this is... Yeah, you'd probably be a big proponent of the neutron bomb. Yes, we've already discussed this. I don't understand why killing people one way or the other makes any difference. They suffer more. No, they don't. You suffer if you got half your body blown to bits. Okay, well, this is fine, but that's not the point of the clue. Oh, wow, it just got worse.

2:07:35 Oh, JC's looking around because he's not on the machine. I'm not on the machine. You want to reconnect? No, we'll sit with it. Just don't talk too loud. Talk quieter. When you talk louder, it's when it cuts out. Huh. It's like a limiter. I didn't even hear that. Yeah, I heard it. I'm just not responding. All right. Why? What's wrong with my comment that might be like a limiter? Well, it was just, it was what it was, you know. You won't let me talk about my love for chemical weapons. I love. Yeah, I don't understand. I just it doesn't come doesn't compute with me that that's I know it doesn't yeah yeah shoot people you have a chance of survival to get shot it's giving given someone a shot is that what it's about like you have no shot of surviving if it's chemical weapon I just wanted the hypocrisy is just beyond me I don't understand why you why you don't think this is

2:08:34 I don't know why you think it. I mean, it's just like it's an agreement. I think any agreement that lowers the kind of, you know, well, let's just have everything. Let's start with clubs and then we have chemical weapons and gas and let's poison the oceans. Let's just take the Baltic Sea and put a bunch of poison in there and kill everyone. I mean, you just get to kill your own people with gas too, you know. They can't do that. The ocean's too big. They're trying to kill us with food. Look at the mac and cheese for 39 cents. Come on, that's chemical warfare right there. You're cutting out again. I didn't say anything. Good. Can I tell you what we're doing here in America though? Okay. This is a marine colonel.

2:09:24 testifying uh... just did testify i was in charge of the minister of defense coordinator my job was to man, train and equip the Iraqi army in al-Anbar, Najaf, Karbala and the Middle and Middle East provinces and I can tell you right now while somebody had the great idea to get rid of the Iraqi army so when we rebuilt it We did everything we could to make it as strong as possible. And I'll tell you right now, Homeland Security would kick their butts in a week. What's happening here is we're building a domestic military because it's unlawful or unconstitutional to use American troops on American soil. So what we're doing is we're building a military.

2:10:04 My best friend who's a SWAT officer in Nashua who came to Iraq with me to train the Iraqi police sent me an email with a picture of him in the media on the streets of Watertown, Mass wearing the exact same combat gear that we had in Iraq only it was a different color. And the way we do things in the military is called task organization. You take a command and then you attach units to it in order to accomplish the mission. What's happening is Homeland Security is pre-staging gear, equipment, consistent. What they're trying to do is use standardized vehicles, standardized equipment. I saw a picture in the Boston Globe during the Marathon bombing where there was a state police officer

2:10:45 I said, there were two officers. They both had identical helmets, flak jackets, weapons, everything I wore in Iraq, only it was all blue. The officer on one side had a big patch on his back that said Massachusetts State Police. Another officer next to him, his patch said Boston Police. And so what we're doing here, and let's not kid about it, We're building a domestic army and we're shrinking the military because the government is afraid of its own citizens. The last time more than 10 terrorists were in the same place at one time was September 11th, and all these vehicles in the world wouldn't have prevented it nor would it have helped anybody. So I don't know where we're going to use this many vehicles and this many troops. Concord is just one little cog in the wheel. We're building an army over here and I can't believe that people aren't seeing it. Is everybody blind?

2:11:34 That's the part that we've never figured out John is that they're standardizing everything. Yeah, this is the the government Federal government has been of the you know my little town here They've been sending money to every town, but they have to spend the money on like some Ear some swatting big sure guess what teams everyone's got the littlest now with the smallest populations have to have SWAT teams and There's the we've talked about the stats on this before there's 30,000 of those SWAT missions a year when used to be 30 But I didn't know I didn't realize that this is about standardizing the gear so that all these in these different police forces They can all interchange all their stuff and you know the the 50 caliber will snap on you know to the next guy's Jeep You know it's like a giant military military. Yeah, only they've militarized the police departments in most cities which is

2:12:26 not policing anymore, it's now essentially turning the country into a prison camp with these guys as the guards and it's deplorable. A prison camp. Yeah, it's a giant prison camp. I'm telling you'll be begging for chemical weapons to be used on you, you watch. Baroness Francine Hardaway says, Dear Adam Curry and at the Real Dvorak, I am not at Scobalizer, I am his shill on gadgets. Thanks for the crown. Yeah, so this this all does have to do this a lot of weird things coming up. So if you look in the conspiracy circles The federal emergency management agency has been ordering all these like like ready-to-eat meals for October There's something going on in FEMA region 3. Did you know there were regions for this FEMA thing? I did know that. Yeah Yeah, what region are you in?

2:13:19 I don't know. I'm in FEMA region 6 apparently. Well, it's California. I don't know. I don't know. But FEMA region 3 is Washington DC, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia. And we've heard about West Virginia for a while. But now the CDC has ordered 11 million dollars worth of antibiotics for FEMA region 3. You want to type in into Google FEMA region map and then click on images and there's all these what are you I'm in nine? Oh, you're in six. Yes, and then in November we're supposed to have a power grid drill 150 companies and groups will take part in a drill that will simulate attacks on the power grid. Why do we need to do this? I don't know. They got money to spend They got money to spend as free lunches

2:14:16 Well, I think if you look at all the things coming together at the same time, you know, we just had another one of these cyber scams where Nasdaq had, you know, what did they say? Oh, the Russian hackers, they're getting into Nasdaq. Yeah, whatever. The Russian hackers run Nasdaq already. They program all the high frequency trading. So we've got the cyber scams ready. I'm sure with, you know, the more I look at all the pieces on the board, the more I think that finally your cycle theory, and you're an idiot by the way for not having your book out. Because you know, after October when this all happens, no one's going to have money for a book. This is true. I mean, I'll help promote it if you can get it out now.

2:15:00 Yeah, you know it doesn't just put it together and put it on a new started it no kickstart is that way by the way somebody keeps saying you keep using the word giblet Yeah, what does that mean that is an Amazon ebook? I said giblet Okay, I don't know why but it's I never heard this from anyone, but you yeah, I know I made it up Okay, well that makes sense. Yeah, it's a giblet. Yes The president had a meeting With all of the top financial guys now? Members of Federal Reserve, the FBI? Well, you know, Dr. O'Reilly is on the schedule. I think, I still think that if they keep this quantitative easing up... No, they tape their tapering. ...and then we're good to go. John, hold on. I'm gonna call you back. This is, it's getting too bad now. Okay. Let's see if this works. It's really bad. You there? Yes, I am. Okay. I don't know what, it's almost like your computer hard drive is glitching.

2:16:11 With each new file it has to write away and send off to Utah. You know, it's on the schedule and the president had this big meeting with all of the... let me see... Federal Reserve, FDIC, CFTC, SEC, Federal Housing Finance Agency, CEOs of the banks. I always get a little worried because that later... that's what you see later on HBO about that meeting. You know, Kevin Spacey was in it. Right. Well, sums up. I'm looking at these maps of these regions. Your best bet is to live in northern Montana. Oh, Molly Wood has family there. We can all go to Molly's farm. Yeah, Molly's farm. Hi, I'm Adam. Yeah, Molly said it would be okay. I can just see her dad sitting there like, hey! Get off my land!

2:17:17 I'm Molly's dad. Get off my land. Yeah, that's got to be the best one because it's the biggest in terms of square feet and it's the furthest away from HQ. Right. Because HQ is in Denver for that region. And did you hear about the Geithner-Somers memo? Did you hear this was a Greg Palast revelation that was kind of brought back about the World Trade Organization Financial Services Agreement? Yeah, what do you think of that pal-ist guy? You know, I want to like him and then for some reason like I always turn up like yeah I don't know if he's shilling or not

2:18:00 Well, he's always wearing that stupid hat. This is a problem. The hat is a little annoying, but I got the hair so I'm not going to pin that on him. But what he has is and the story is quite interesting and I have the copy of the memo which is from little Timmy Geithner who by the way someone told me that Timmy Geithner is on the shortlist perhaps for to replace the Bernank. If that happens, then you know October is... then you know it's happening. No, that's summers. Summers. No, I also heard Timmy is also on the list. No, I never heard this. Okay, well I'm just telling you what I get in the email. It's easy to accuse the two. Except one looks like an evil villain, the other one looks like leave it to beaver. Right, but it doesn't matter which one gets the job, we're in trouble either way. Yeah, because they're going to pull the plug on the quantitative easing and they're going to end up sinking the economy. Yeah, the whole system kind of falls apart because then there's just no fake money.

2:19:05 But this, this, did you see this, um, this memo, which is supposed to be the smoking gun? Yeah, yeah, I read it. What do you, so let me explain it briefly. The concept is that, um, and of course it uses all the hot buttons, the subject, World Trade Organization, financial services, negotiations, industry consultations. And Timmy says to Summers actually, um, as we enter the end game, and that's the big, that's the trigger right there is to use the word end game. of World Trade Organization or Organization Financial Services negotiations, I believe would be a good idea for you to touch base with the CEOs of the major US banking and securities firms. And so from what I understand the way Palace laid this out is that it was set up to have all banks all around the world get ready for derivatives so they could basically just blow all of this nasty shit all over the place

2:19:58 And he's insinuating that the endgame was to tank the world. I don't think that's necessarily true. Although I do like the idea and I went back and I watched some of his interviews with you know the guy from Credit Lyonnais, the head of the the World Trade Organization, Financial Services, and they all do look like incredible douchebags. I mean no doubt. And I think that they all are totally trying to steal anything they can but you know, purposely bring down the world? I don't think so. There'd be no point to it for them. No. But they do want to get, I think there's a, you know, they were, according to that article, they were working together with

2:20:45 World governments and our government in the United Nations to get all the banks around everywhere to deregulate yes specifically for derivatives and to remove the the firewall between investment banking and... Right, which that was accomplished by Clinton long ago so I don't know how he fixed that. Well the memo was from 97. 97 who was president. Wasn't Clinton still president? Yeah, Clinton is the one who changed most of the banking rules. Yeah, all of the banking rules. Yeah, to open it up for wild speculation. But of course, you know, let's blame Bush. So... Yeah, Bush ain't gonna die in the saddle though.

2:21:25 No, no, seems unlikely. This is a real saddle. So, so, I said it three times so far. No, you've said it about 50 times. Okay, well why don't you ring the bell please? Anyways... Ha ha ha! That does it. I have a little email here that perhaps I could read. In my day job as a WAN optimization software engineer for a company that supports enterprise networks, which support guest Wi-Fi services, e.g. Denny's, Starbucks, Hilton, etc., I learned something of possible interest to you. Every guest Wi-Fi IP flow is logged, including the guest MAC address identifying the actual laptop or tablet for law enforcement purposes.

2:22:20 Yeah, I didn't actually realize that they were doing that doesn't surprise me I would actually have been more surprised that they weren't doing it to be honest about it Yeah, but it seems like there's only one or two companies that do all the backhaul is that that what is the name of that? Like storm bond house, or what is it called you see it pop up all the time that no yeah some hotels have it oh Barn bonhoof house It's like one company that does that science very Nazi sounding yeah Baumhaus hmm yeah, don't know I ran into a solicitor from Southern Poverty Law Center on South Congress so two days ago They're just standing out there asking you to sign something hey Can I talk to you guys about the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I went no I hate them. They're liars I

2:23:15 And and Mickey went shut up. I want to go get a burger She didn't want me to get into it with it's really sad and another another one's like And then when we came back we had to go past the guy again to get in the car and he'd give you the evil I know no no here's what happened he looked he saw it was me and he stepped back Physically step back into the shadows Yeah, it's called the petition avoidance tactic, which is now people are starting to like it.

2:23:52 Let me see, I got one here. I hate them, they're liars. That's all you have to say. And it just pops out. Let me see, we got an email from Charlie Brown. Yes, that's his real name, Charlie Brown. Your petition avoidance tactic is genius. I was walking out of the library this week and I was approached by a lady who asked if I was a registered voter. Why, yes I am, I replied. She said, well, are you Democrat or Republican? Because I have some individuals who would like to get on the ballot. My reply, I don't believe in people getting on the ballot. Confusion began to spread all over her face as she stammered out, well how do you vote for them then? My reply, we wouldn't! And that was checkmate. This is, it really is fun when you get into it. It really does. What did I have the other day? It keeps happening for some reason on South Congress. It's like, I don't know, they're just, they're popping up now and it's really annoying.

2:24:49 They have some mark on the sidewalk showing there's a lot of rubes and suckers that oh, right? It's like hobos in the 30s, you know, and it's a hundred degrees in Texas in Austin right now I don't want to stand there and talk to you about the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I mean it they're liars I hate those guys. They literally lie about organizations call them, you know, you know like Oh crazy people. Oh So play this clip. This is just a short little... I get to do this. Oh, you're going to read your email? No, it's closing it out. Oh, you didn't play it opening though. No, I just slid into it. I slid into it. Don't worry about it.

2:25:29 This is the way I think you handle, you know, nowadays it's a known fact that we talk about this a lot. You can't get news. Nobody will talk to you, they think it's a sin to talk to the press and all the rest. So you just play it like this. Ray Suarez invites the army. World War II. Christine Jorgensen, an American soldier who served as a man, returned from military service and became Christine. In Manning's case, the focus now lies on how the army will proceed with the soldier's request and what that means for the private's future in prison. We invited a representative of the army to join us, but none was available to appear tonight. They have thousands of people. So either they didn't ask it right,

2:24:49 They have some mark on the sidewalk showing there's a lot of rubes and suckers that oh, right? It's like hobos in the 30s, you know, and it's a hundred degrees in Texas in Austin right now I don't want to stand there and talk to you about the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I mean it they're liars I hate those guys. They literally lie about organizations call them, you know, you know like Oh crazy people. Oh So play this clip. This is just a short little... I get to do this. Oh, you're going to read your email? No, it's closing it out. Oh, you didn't play it opening though. No, I just slid into it. I slid into it. Don't worry about it.

2:25:29 This is the way I think you handle, you know, nowadays it's a known fact that we talk about this a lot. You can't get news. Nobody will talk to you, they think it's a sin to talk to the press and all the rest. So you just play it like this. Ray Suarez invites the army. World War II. Christine Jorgensen, an American soldier who served as a man, returned from military service and became Christine. In Manning's case, the focus now lies on how the army will proceed with the soldier's request and what that means for the private's future in prison. We invited a representative of the army to join us, but none was available to appear tonight. They have thousands of people. So either they didn't ask it right,

2:26:18 Now they asked it, right? It's kind of, it's really, I find it fascinating that the national conversation is about the NSA and transgender, transgenderization, you know, anti-gay Putin stuff. It's all very sexual and it's kind of, you know, I don't know. It's very strange, like this is what Americans, what confuses Americans. If you throw some transgender at them, they'll never figure it out. Well, I can figure out the one with Amy Goodman, that's for sure. I got a note from Tristan, one of our producers, and in the South Pacific it's called a lava lava, the man dress. Oh yeah. Yeah, because I like the idea of a man dress and I'm going to see if I can order me a lava lava and I'm going to wear it around town. But you get a muumuu. No, no, no.

2:27:10 The Lava Lava's good looking! Oh bullcrap. It's the Polynesian dress. No, it is. It's also Samoan. That's the reason. Yeah. I like it. Lava Lava. What's it called? Man dress? Lava Lava. It's a Lava Lava. Clothing. Lava Lava clothing. Let's hit. Yeah, love a love. It's good stuff. Yeah, this is what the Samoans wear because they can't really get into pants. Yeah. Oh, and let me tell you, I am looking tight now with all that spin class going on. Well, then you should show it off with some tight-fitting clothes. Wear a Speedos. Why are you wearing Lava Lavas? This is ludicrous. Speedos, not a good look. Not a good look. No, no, no, no. Speedos with a codpiece. You'd be looking great. No, I'm gonna wear the Lava. I can wear a tight Lava Lava. So all these guys are wearing Lava Lavas, which look like a piece of crap, by the way. No, that's not true. Cheap looking, and in a white t-shirt.

2:28:09 That seems to be the... or no top. You seem to think it's a real problem. You seem to have a problem with men in dresses. I think it's silly. Why? Because been Because it looks silly if you've ever seen some of these pictures. Here's your sorry. I'm sorry Crocs are the height of fashion. I'm sorry John. You're right What am I saying some some some of my you don't even know this? So there's a little bit. I don't wear Crocs by the way I've never owned the brand, but they worse you wear faux clothes people with lava lava where I'm looking all these pictures a couple guys golfing they're wearing these things and they both of them have those crazy sand flip-flops and

2:28:46 So you're thinking, so this is gonna be your look. You're gonna have a, I'll describe it. You got some red lava lava, some flip flops, your calves hanging out, a Hawaiian shirt that looks like crap and a baseball cap. Unbelievable. No, I think I can make it work for me in a different way. Yeah, you're gonna stay at home. I challenge you to wear this outfit to the farmer's market. I will wear the lava... Oh, by the way, I need to thank Farmer Chris, the farmer's market. Hey, Farmer Chris. Mickey said, you gotta thank Farmer Chris once in a while. You're right. He is our biggest fan. Where's the Oryx? No, that's Sebastian, the French guy.

2:29:29 Don't don't don't get me started on Sebastian. What happened you guys have a little beef? Did you have a beef? What happened? No, nothing. Did he do a full of French trick on you and sell you something that wasn't worth the price? No, it's just French. Did he try to hit you with the reno? He's been gone. His wife has been manning the stall and it's been very pleasurable. And she hits you? No, I get along with her very nice, but he was there the other day and then he was like, oh, before you know it, it's like 40 bucks and you got some mustard you didn't want. What the hell? I'm afraid to say no to him.

2:30:07 Oh, so he's a good salesman and you have no resistance to the Frenchman. Anyway, what I commit to, I'm not going to wear the stupid flip-flops or the baseball cap, but I think Farmer Chris and I will wear our lava lavas at the market. I'm not worried about that at all. I think people will like it. You get pinched in the ass a lot. See? You're so not in touch with your manliness. It's like you think that because you wear a dress like you're a woman all of a sudden. Yeah. No. No. Shame on you. Yes, you're gonna have panties. You know where panties with a shame on you Just wondering bra You are sad just sad. Oh, yeah, you are sad all right play us out here big boy. What you got well? I do have a couple of little things

2:30:55 I thought that this was interesting. You're reading that book about Washington DC? Yeah, In This Town, Lunch and the Funeral. The guy was on the National Treasure discussing some of the things. And there were two little clips I have. One about the theory that Republicans that gridlock is good, which I kind of agree with what they talk about But this is the future of politics clip with him and the guy who wrote a book on the tea party are sitting there You know best friends kind of talking about you know what a mess everything is and there was a couple I thought this was a misleading but interesting kind of conversation and this is the future of politics clip right no, but I'm just trying to think that the two guys talking the one guy is What's his name?

2:31:40 Your buddy who wrote the book in this town, he's the Democrat and the other guy is a Republican, which makes it even more interesting. You write about a celebritized culture, and not only from people who are on TV and make millions of dollars doing so, but people who work in public service and become kind of celebrities too. Is that new? It's new in that new media is new. It's new in that Twitter is new. It's new in that Facebook is new. And I do think that, look, I think We are in a business now as journalists in which the gold standard has become punditry as opposed to reporting. Hooray! If you can be outrageous, if you can have a better shouting match... Uh-huh, enter my dress. I'm on my way to Hollywood! ...on TV, if you can have a more...

2:32:24 attention-getting blog, you are probably in a better place to succeed to make money than other people. And frankly, it's part of a larger phenomenon in politics today in which Washington and the political class really does very, very well when nothing gets done. So does that explain why, and the three of us could probably make a list with 20 or 30 names on it, of very well-known elected officials who have No singular legislative achievement, no law that bears their name, no lynchpin moment in history to which they contributed, but they're famous. Absolutely. I mean, fame itself has become the defining imperative. I mean, look at the 2012 Republican race for president, for instance. I mean, you could argue that

2:33:09 Michelle Bachmann, for instance, to go back to Robert's congressional space, is not exactly a pillar of great achievement in the House, but she became very, very famous as a sort of a cable person, as a staple in the conversation. And it's the flip side on the Democratic side, Anthony Weiner, who has been in the news a lot. I mean, Anthony Weiner was known as a talking head during the health care debate and thereafter. But he had no legislative achievement to speak of in fact was basically an outcast in the Democratic caucus did very little to lift To help either in showing up to committee meetings crafting legislation, but he was known for being himself He was known for being a talking head. I really implore all of you to read the this town to weddings in a funeral or whatever it's called Mark Leibovitch Leibovitch

2:33:55 It's a very, very, very good book. And this is not lip service that he's paying right here. It is, I mean, he goes into such detail about the a-holes walking around making millions of dollars revolving in and out of consultancies. And I mean, John, if you and I, if we move to Washington, D.C., and I mean, guaranteed, we could be millionaires. I believe that's true. Just by, with this podcast. And of course, you know, we'd be outrageous. You with the Crocs, me with the dress. Oh, it's those guys. They know what's going on. They're so hip. We'd get invited to a lot of parties and we'd schmooze. Yeah. I've actually mentioned this to Mickey. I said, we should move to DC. She's like, what? Yeah. That didn't go over too well.

2:34:43 Well, she'd probably enjoy it because she could board it over. But there are people who... I've been marking up my copy because it's on the Kindle. This is one woman who always does a lunch. In fact, I think it was her house where the First Lady was interrupted. Remember during the the right the fake interruption for the right right? This is this is around the one of the scripted interruptions and this unlike this last one So she always does a lunch and a dinner for the correspondence dinner This is this is you know a lot of it revolves around this and how Maria Bartiromo, you know She's like everyone's like just like sliming all over her and you know that they just love the celebrities it's it's really it's a stomach churning tome is what it is and

2:35:32 Yeah, it is but it but it for us for someone who's listening to no agenda you're like, uh, duh, you know this wise way I mean you don't hear I guess what was this on this this particular clip? This was on the News Hour. Oh, okay. No one watches it, no wonder. All right. And then we have the gridlock clip. What is that? The same guy? Well, the gridlock clip was just kind of one of those little clips I put on here just in case we had gotten to something where I could throw it in. But this is the same two guys and they discussed something that reminds me of when I worked for the air pollution district. I'll tell them my anecdote and why I didn't realize that

2:36:13 you know people moaning groan about the republicans don't want to get anything done uh... the positive thing is the way he portrays this at least from his did that i think is that the other guy the air wrote the book of the tea party but play this clip involved all i'll tell you what i think you and then shake your computer a bit maybe that'll help with the cutting are a lot of public figures who point with pride to all the things that haven't been able to get done thanks to me yeah it's a it's a new yardstick, isn't it? Well, yeah, because the unit of measurement I think that Democrats traditionally use is how many bills were passed. And for the freshman class of the 112th Congress, who are now in their sophomores, the ones who are still around anyway, they say that's not the right way to measure things. The government has already regulated too much. It's already passing too many spending bills. The less, the better. So their view is that obstructionism is precisely what they ought to be doing. Gridlock is a good thing.

2:37:05 Yeah, well these guys are just part of the problem obviously they're just everybody's they're really part of it Yeah, they're really part of it But so I remember when I was working for the government and we would we had cars they give us cars we take home and you jumped in the car you were at work and so We would spend a lot of time in meetings coffee meetings different coffee shops never went in the office Sometimes you go shop And so you go shopping and then once in a while somebody would have like the logo of the operation on the side of the car. You'd try to get those off so nobody knew where you worked. And they could see it was a state plate, but then you were at the mall shopping.

2:37:45 And every once in a while somebody gets busted for this. A big memo about, no you can't fuel or shopping on their company time, they should be working. And I always thought, my attitude was that when you're working, generally speaking you're making somebody's life miserable. There's a number of the inspectors would go out and they find somebody to hate. and then they'd hound him and they'd dog him and they'd be... because he'd be spending all his time on this one guy. Wait a minute, so you're telling me this is exactly what we always think about the government is that you pick on someone? It's exactly the truth? Yeah, we had this one guy who really loved picking on people.

2:38:22 And he would just be, we talk about him, we say, this guy's horrible, I feel so sorry for this guy. It's really hard to, I mean you're cutting out every third word now. I don't know what the hell is going on. Okay, well we have to end, we'll pick this up where we left off. It sucks, I'm sorry. I know it's gonna be a good story, but... I know, I understand. Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry man. Hey man, hey man, hey man, let me address. It's okay. I'm good with it Let me let me put let me take everyone out on a high note. Okay? Oh, yeah, your belt garter belt. Are you are you doing a twat today? No, oh cuz you could have worn your Crocs. Okay, there's speedos, but this is the same thing. It's an off-brand croc. All right, so this is something I did not know

2:39:10 Did you know that Rush Limbaugh is in big trouble that his ratings and this is a for those you don't know This is like a big blowhard guy who's been on the radio for 10 years in America and he's 87 So it's longer than that He invented the genre. So apparently, yes, he invented the Republican blowhard talk show genre. Apparently his ratings are in the tank. Cumulus Media wants to throw him off the flagship station in New York. Did you know any of this? No. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like a big, this is like everyone in the talk show, in the radio, you should know this, you listen to all these shows, everyone in the Republican talk show circuit, you know, talk radio is freaking out because, you know, all of a sudden he's not so powerful anymore and he had like a, what was that, 10 year, 400 million dollar contract or something? Yeah. And so with this in mind, why is it

2:40:08 that I hear this just yesterday on CNN. I'm worried about a primary from, you know, somebody in the Tea Party back in my district. Or I'm worried about what Rush Limbaugh is going to say about me on the radio. They're playing together. He's promoting him. Yeah, sounds like it. He's totally promoting him when his ratings are in the cropper. Well, I don't know those ratings are in the crap, but this is information from both Media Matters and Slyon.com. No, no. I would see that, you know, this has happened before. I would like to see some real numbers, not a bunch of bullcrap. I got it from Talkers, which is kind of the... Okay, Talkers, I would count that. It's kind of the diary, but it's okay. I believe it. I believe that people are tuning out. Who wants to listen to this guy? When you could listen to the best podcast in the universe. Even you cutting out every third word is better than that.

2:41:11 I would agree. If you can keep your sentences really short, it works. No, no, too long. No, no. We gotta figure that out. I'm not saying anything. It's like, it's like, it's weird. It literally feels like a hard drive is freaking out on you. Well, you're coming in loud and clear. Yeah. We have the no agenda producer update coming up on the stream make sure you stay tuned for that and remember We will be here again on Thursday with more of the no agenda show for you Those of you listening inside the three-letter agencies You can always go to curry comm or Dvorak org slash blog to go and pick up your copy And for the rest of you know generation calm no agenda show calm

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