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00:00 Holy crap, you mean they even believe that stupid old book? Oh my god, oh! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, August 8th, 2013, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 537! This is no agenda. Back in the Travis Heights hideout under elevated security conditions. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the conditions are always elevated, I'm John C. Dvorak. I spent some time setting up a new mail server, you know, one of those things. You know, this is like traveling. What do you mean? Do not eat shrimp or go to a sushi bar before a long flight. No, no, you have to understand. The server here at home, of course, whenever you go on vacation, whenever you're thousands of miles away, that of course is when things start to break.

01:04 And what happened is a drive started to fail and so it was having trouble retrieving stuff from the from its disk and I'm like, you know, whatever. So I forwarded some stuff to a different account and worked around it. But the minute I got home, like I'm going to take this opportunity to really set up a whole new system. I found I mean, you know me with my Curry's law, right? I want to decentralize everything and everyone should be running their own mail server I have found a system. I'm gonna give I'm gonna make a tutorial with no, I'm gonna make an e-book and An Amazon jibble a an Amazon ebook that will tell you in five steps You can run your own email server The only thing I didn't do right is somehow I didn't set the quota properly for the amount of incoming email And of course you sent me the clips which now looks like what is it? How many it must have been several it must have been 75 flips. Yeah, but how I

02:01 now how many megs let me see 13.4 which it probably is set to 10 or something so I apologize for that a private rail car just went by Who was in it? Rich guys in it, I'm guessing. Can you still get those? Private rail car? Yeah, you can rent them. You can rent a private rail car and go across the country if you want to. But wait a minute, don't you just hitch on to any old train that's going your way? Yeah, this is on the back of an Amtrak train. Really? That's cool! We should get one of those!

02:39 She has not as cheap as you think I didn't I'm not saying we have any money to pay for it I'm sure we have some patron out there who's more than willing to help us out Oh, yeah, he'd be on the train with us so as I arrive back in all of us usually sleep about six It's a sleeper car too. Yeah, this is the words. I love that oh that sounds awesome I arrive back in in Austin John flip on the television You're not gonna believe what I hear a homeland security exercise will be underway in Austin over the next several days The Texas Department of Public Safety announced several local and federal agencies will test response plans to possible terroristic threats and other critical incidents Authorities say you should not be alarmed if you see a big increase in law enforcement officials on the streets of Austin Yeah

02:01 now how many megs let me see 13.4 which it probably is set to 10 or something so I apologize for that a private rail car just went by Who was in it? Rich guys in it, I'm guessing. Can you still get those? Private rail car? Yeah, you can rent them. You can rent a private rail car and go across the country if you want to. But wait a minute, don't you just hitch on to any old train that's going your way? Yeah, this is on the back of an Amtrak train. Really? That's cool! We should get one of those!

02:39 She has not as cheap as you think I didn't I'm not saying we have any money to pay for it I'm sure we have some patron out there who's more than willing to help us out Oh, yeah, he'd be on the train with us so as I arrive back in all of us usually sleep about six It's a sleeper car too. Yeah, this is the words. I love that oh that sounds awesome I arrive back in in Austin John flip on the television You're not gonna believe what I hear a homeland security exercise will be underway in Austin over the next several days The Texas Department of Public Safety announced several local and federal agencies will test response plans to possible terroristic threats and other critical incidents Authorities say you should not be alarmed if you see a big increase in law enforcement officials on the streets of Austin Yeah

03:25 You know, it's like, really? Coincidence? I think not! Oh, Mr. Cur- Oh, horrible accident happened during the evening. Yeah, we didn't know he was- Adam Curry was shot in the head. Hey! Hey, listen, don't talk like that. You know, we can't do with- one can't do without the other here on this show. I know that's why I'm advising you to take out an insurance policy and make me the beneficiary. Make you the beneficiary. Yes. Okay. Please, please do it. Oh man. Anyway, it is good to be back home here in the Travis Heights hideout. Wow, a lot transpired just since last we spoke, John. Just getting home was again quite an interesting ride.

04:15 I'm waiting with bated breath to hear your anecdotes. Well, we learned that... How many times have I been flying back with KLM and I keep saying, it's like, no security, there's no big deal, they don't even have body scanners, they make it just easy. Yeah, you complain bitterly about it. Yes. As if you want more security. I was very disappointed, exactly. So we were flying on, well we booked it through KLM but I guess they only have three flights a week that are actually serviced by KLM, the others are serviced by Delta. Which is kind of a bummer because you know we got no, we got no cache with Delta. We're just you know two more schlubs trying to scam our way into better service.

05:04 But we we got on we got Oh first we tried the the old gold card trick at the at the priority check-in the KLM priority check-in area Yeah, no go because the what is that funny? So it's you know, it's like okay insert your card Oh, hi Adam Curry. Who are you traveling with? Could it be this person? Yes, that would be that person, you know, so I select Mickey's name and it's like okay We need your address Really? You need my address? And so I'm filling out my address and we get to the, you know, all the way down to zip code and then it's like, are you in Tennessee? Like, what kind of system is this? Every stupid website even knows that the zip code where it is. No, no, they don't know that. And then, uh, you know, so I fill, fill all that out and then it goes, oh, no, sorry. Yeah, no, the system did not understand how to pick up my state. Parse the zip code. Yeah. Had no idea how to do that. It's totally stupid.

06:04 But then you know I fill out all that information is oh no, sorry we can't check you in you know we need extra documents and of course That is because Mickey has to show her green card that can't go through the system. So we got boned on You know getting the automatic you know like priority thing on the ticket But of course the stewardess was very not the the check-in person which by the way, they don't have name tags anymore at KLM It's only that it says agent. I said hello agent and Why can't I call you by your name anymore? She said oh yeah, no they've changed that because people were stalking us on Facebook. Oh. Isn't that weird? So yeah, so no one has... Ah, don't you love Facebook? Yeah, no one has their name anymore. It's all agent or flight attendant or captain. Stalking on Facebook. Yeah, no, she said that's what it was for, for the stalking on Facebook. Okay, well, there you go.

07:01 So then we go through the customs, we go to the gate, and now this is Delta. And dude, dude! Dude! Yeah, everyone's getting questioned. So not only is there a body scanner but everyone's getting questions. Yeah, that means you're on maximum. We're on red alert. No, no. I said is this... That's the reason. I asked, I said is this the red alert? She says no, not at all. We do this every single flight. I said no because I've been flying all the time with KLM. We don't have this. She said no, no. KLM doesn't have that. If it's a US carrier then we ask all the questions. So you're telling me that if you fly KLM the security is obviously less if you're going to the same destination.

07:43 She said yes, but if I'm flying Delta then you... And she says this unflappable, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why doesn't the terrorist just take the KLM flight is the question you should ask. That's what I would be recommending. I did not say this at the time. I actually wanted to get on the plane. And of course then we... That makes sense. Then we get to the naked body scanner and we say, oh we'd like to opt out. And I didn't think you could do this in Europe, but they said, oh yeah, no problem. And so we opted and it's so it's such a friendly process. Whereas in America, you know, it's like opt out, opt out, opt out, opt out. Because we couldn't do the hands thing because it was only one scanner, it's the two of us. So we decided both to opt out.

08:28 And just say, okay, no problem. Just step over here and then you get a quick little fresh. Thanks. Okay, pick up your bags. No waiting. No bullcrap. No attitude. In fact, it's actually G4S, which is that horrible security firm from the UK, the ones who did the Olympics. Remember that whole kerfuffle about how they screwed that up? Yeah. So it's the Dutch arm of G4S. They're really nice. And they're making jokes. And not because it's Adam and Mickey. They were just nice to everybody. Now, of course, the ultimate podcast or the improvised podcast device along with my... Improvised pod... the IPE you were carrying. Well, I'm either one to call it the IPD or the IBD. It should maybe... IPD, yeah. Improvised broadcast device might be good too.

09:15 So this thing has, they have to take everything out now. Now remember I've traveled with this thing through Europe, no one said a word. Now it has to be ripped apart. It's like, oh okay, everything out, everything back in. The guy's pulling out my Yeisu FT817 transceiver, he's like, what is this? Oh, that's what I can broadcast with. Oh, okay. Broadcast from behind the lines. Yeah. Alright, so then we arrive, flight uneventful, we arrive in Atlanta and of course Mickey's flagged and oh well you know you're gonna have to go to the, no, go to secondary. I said, you mean we have to sit in the aquarium? He said, oh yeah.

10:00 Yeah, you gotta sit in the aquarium. I said, well, what can we do about this? I mean this, you know, obviously she has a green card. It's clear that, you know, there was a problem in the past, but it was a minor issue and everything's been resolved and the guy looks at me and says, oh, this will never go away. Well, at least he's honest. This will never go away. But he said it like that. Oh, this will never go away. Okay. He said, unless she becomes a US citizen. And even then I have my doubts. But now they're saying that if you become a member of the Global Entry Program, which is another money-grabbing scam, where they want your retinal scan and all your... and you have to have an interview... Yeah, yeah, she can bypass all this crap? That's what they say, possibly, that you might get through on that. But I can just see you going up to getting your eyeball scanned and then they still take your side. No, I think that's probably true. I think she should just do it. Yeah, she'll be the guinea pig.

10:56 Because I just I don't I want no part of that and then of course we had to go through another security at Atlanta And this is where things when it could have potentially been disastrous But we were both really check in your bags. Yeah, and we had to yes, and then we have to go through security and Mickey you know for some reason Mickey's iPad didn't didn't go through now. She did the can't can't raise the arms I opted out and Because there was only one one slave scanning device and and and then you know I didn't quite see how it started but all of a sudden this TSA agent is just like like almost yelling at her

11:37 Because you said oh, you know I thought you couldn't touch I'm not sure exactly what happened We were both really tired so I you know, but then the guy was just like I've come here every single day man This is how it worked brother. I don't know you know and and and and I'm just like I'm just You know and I'm starting to freak out John I really am I'm like I know I I have I we I want to get on this plane you we already spent you wasted all this time in the aquarium and I'm just like I want to get on the plane just want to go home I just you know want to stop and there's someone like some the TSA officer comes over and then he talked to Mickey and she said no it's okay but I yeah I was just like wow and you know I what was it all about you're not explaining it well she asked him a question and I'll never do that oh that that was what I was trying to don't ask a question

12:29 Don't ask a question, just go through. If they stop you, they stop you. I'm not sure the problem... it was just something was confusing and then... and meanwhile the guy's getting the ultimate podcast device and bag and he's like, oh, whoa, we have to look at this one and all he does is he swabs the outside, doesn't even look in it. It's so inconsistent, everything's so stupid. And then of course on Delta we are super priority, we get upgraded to first class. The world is crazy. Well there's a benefit to everything. The world is crazy I'm telling you. And a nice two hour flight in first class. Oh yeah. I bet you the food was fantastic. How was the caviar and champagne? I actually said can I have a Cristal champagne? And she went yeah, how about a Honey Jack? Have you ever heard of this product?

13:22 No, it's a product. It is it's Jack Daniels. It's horrible. It's Jack Daniels and honey and honey Yeah, and it's they it's sold as a product Honey Jack. What is this? I'll try it It's not an outstanding product at all. And then we get home and they're like, you know, okay So we've been gone for two and a half weeks. The house is beautiful, you know, our boys took care of it for us Everything's great. Have you ever like where's the mail? Oh And you know, you start looking around, you know, the plants are alive. Where's the mail? Where's two and a half weeks of mail? Where's the mail? You start looking around, you go in the office, you know, then at a certain point you start, you're ripping stuff open. Where's the mail? You know, and it's 1030, you know, texting people, hey, thanks for taking care of the house. Where's my mail?

14:13 No, we didn't see any mail. And we text the landlady. She says, oh no, they were doing work on the front porch and the mailman just, you know, we thought that, you know, we don't know, he never came by. You know, we should have like a huge pile of mail. And you remember our mail carrier is an associate executive producer of the show. Yeah. So he saw that. He probably knew he'd listen to the show. Yes. Yes. Knew you were on your way to a trip. He just stopped delivering. He delivered it all to you on Monday. That's exactly what he did because he rang the doorbell said, hey, no, I knew you guys were out. So I figured I'd just hold on to it. You know, the guys are ripping up the porch and everything. I got your mail. I'll bring it tomorrow. Wow. This is a great show or what? Yeah, there's little perks. We get our perks. Exactly. Exactly.

15:07 Anyway, so we're back and happy to be in 106 degrees, but at least we have air conditioning. And with that I say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Well in the morning to you Adam Curry. In the morning to all the ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water. And all the dames and knights out there. You're doing your thing again just because that guy said it once. It's okay. It's fine. I'm going to keep doing it until he apologizes. And in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net Thank you very much for joining us once again Thank you to our artists in particular Martin JJ for providing the art on episode 5 3 6 and you can find all of our artists endeavors at no agenda art generator calm and I would presume we have we What did I miss?

15:57 Well you missed a couple things. Before we go into the regular chunks of the show. I want to thank our producers before we do anything. Yeah. Oh you want to thank our producers? That's usually what we do when we get into the in the morning to you John, Adam, that whole thing. Let me think I don't remember us ever doing that As he slowly goes to his email trying to open up his spreadsheet Carefully put together by Eric the shill in the back office as he wears his green visor at night putting together all the notes with various donations coming in through PayPal and through our bank and

16:38 Well, I got the one that the thing is this redux there's nothing attached. Yeah, there is you know I got I got the redux with an attachments there. Hmm. Yeah, here we go. Sorry about that ladies and gentlemen of the jury. All right. We do have a few people to thank including a bunch of instant nights, which really helps the show immensely Starting with the black knight of Silicon Valley who came in with 1073 33 Wow In the morning John and Adam and close please find 56 36 for the Sunday show plus 53 of 537 dollars for the Thursday show plus 33 cents for good measure Wow I'm sending So in other words this is actually for should have been for the last show so he wants this

17:35 No, he's got this. He's got it should be 538. We'll get through throw in the no, no, this is five show 537 This is fine. I know but he wants it first. He says he goes by five Sundays, which would be 538 So he's thinking he came up short is what you're saying? You came up short Well, man, you guys deserve a paid vacation I hope this helps in recovering from my lack of donations last week. Please shoot me some of that wonderful No agenda karma. Are you kidding me, man? Yeah, thank you. You totally helping us out with that. Appreciate it. You've got

18:17 car fantastic fantastic Thomas pool yard in Manama nah did it did it did and Bahrain $1,000 another fantastic donor he goes to my guys is sir Thomas of course hi guys flew to the US and left from Gate 33 By the way, my Delta flight was actually DL 0 0 3 3 Wow. Yeah, I know That was weird. Take me to the Baron title. So he's now Baron excellent, sir, Thomas

18:59 These provide much needed job karma. 73 is from Alpha92GreatWestern Golf Whiskey Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Ah, Baron Thomas of Bahrain. If it's possible, he'd actually like to be Sir Funk. Or something along those lines. Better you go... What is she... Along those lines? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Funkmaster. This is Josh McDonald? Oh I'm sorry, I'm reading into the next thing. You know, there's these lines on my spreadsheet when they turn blue like this. It actually wipes out the blue line. Hey man, my lines are no good.

19:41 No, seriously, the lines on the spreadsheet are this kind of light color. I'm sure we can ask Eric to... Eric to darken the lines. To give us more thickness, more girth on the lines. Anyway, that's Josh McDonald from Brunswick, Victoria, Australia. Another thousand dollars, jeez, nice. Wow! And he's the one who wants to be Sir Funk. Yeah, it shall be so. Sir Funk, Sir Josh McDonald Funk. Better you guys put it to good use and blow it on some... GIGA for my car. I'll wear my ring with pride when hitting MOFOs in the mouth. What's a GIGA? You know, uh, the tchotchke. Oh. The Grand Duke Pelsmockers

20:33 from Belgium 88888 happy 25th wedding anniversary Mimi and John and much marital bliss in the decades ahead to on top of it being an easy day to remember always Always important in one day after my own albeit failed wedding ceremony anniversary hmm can't read today folks This is not gonna. This is to be this is not gonna happen. This is what we're just gonna be with you. It's okay It's just one it's an off day it happens wedding anniversary our day was 7 August 1999 or 7 999 which is not bad 7 8 9 9

21:08 7899, I'm sorry, again. The figure 8 is a lucky number in Chinese culture, of course. And 1.3 billion Chinese can't all be wrong. And what if you add 25 and 8 together? Coincidence? Yeah, well, you could, that's a reverse engineering job. Maybe. Many happy returns have yourself. It is funny the 25th anniversary in the 8th, okay? Let me ask you a question so Mimi is Are you up there? Does she come down to see you? What's going on here right now? You talked to her earlier? I'm well. I'm pretending like like I shouldn't have done. Oh, I'm sorry yeah She's gonna be flying down later this afternoon On the leer she's coming in

21:54 And when did she come in? From all the sales in my e-book. I got it in the show notes actually today. Did she come in, when did she come in? Last night? What are you doing to celebrate? The Baron here wants you to go out and have a good time. I'm going to go have dinner, a fancy dinner. And I bought, when we got married, I bought two cases. of 1988 Lynch-Bage, which is the year. So we have a bottle every time we have, you know, every year, one bottle a year. I dibs on the last five. There's only 24 in two cases. So we're actually, I don't know how we still have four left. How does that work? Well, there's actually some other 88s that I've substituted. I've had some, just a few of them, but the vintage is, you know, it's starting to fade. You know, John, you know, that just proves that you really are a romantic.

22:46 Yes, and here's another example of that. For both the kids I bought them big bottles of a great Bordeaux wine for their birthdays and so we opened it on their 21st birthday. And when you buy a wine 25 years ago or 21 years ago, it was a lot cheaper. Yeah, and did the kids chug it? No. Just like, hey thanks dad. They're not big drinkers. What if you had 25 and 8 together, coincidence? I think not many happy returns and have yourself a nice dinner together with some quite suitable wines and come visit the GD of Belgium, the Grand Ductum. You are near. We will do that. Thank you so much, Sir Pelsmacher's Grand Duke of Belgium. It's appreciated. And I talk about you often, by the way, whenever we're talking about the show.

23:32 Yes, well he's a very famous person. He's extremely famous. Sir Patrick Wilson, 33333 in Canyon Lake, California. Sad tidings here from inland. Jennifer Wilson lost her fight with breast cancer August 2nd. Please give Team Wilson some karma and an Italian shut up slave to cancer. She was actually getting on board, unfortunately with no agenda. Well, too bad. Sorry. Shut up slave! Saltito, schiavo! You've got karma. You feel bad about that? Yeah, I do. William Ashby 333, yeah because he's mentioned her before and I use the fault a little bit. William Ashby 3333 Mobile Alabama. Can I just ask you, isn't that weird the older you get? I mean I started noticing this at least 10 years ago because of course a lot of my friends are

24:25 in show business and they've lived drug, alcohol filled lives. But isn't it weird the older you get, people are dying around you? I mean it's weird for me. A lot of people find that interesting. Yeah, a lot of people are freaked out about it. I'm not freaked out but it's just like, ah, you know, do you ever get the... Yeah, they start to drop. And then as you get really old, they're all dead. Except you. This guy would have my mother she went to 90 and all her friends were dead. That's what I'm saying. That might just really suck. You know, there's just no one left and then what do you do? You have to make new younger friends who are just totally interested in being buddies with a 90 year old. Imagine logging into Facebook and your timeline is empty. Just no friends. Just shut it down. Shut it down. You'd be a public figure and you can get a couple phony friends. That's the great thing. Oh yeah, that's the best.

25:19 William Ashby, 3333, read the article on autism if you can at some point and he's got a link which you put in the show notes. I was diagnosed by a very intelligent doctor with psoriatic arthritis due to a leaky gut. My carpal tunnel-like syndromes nearly disappeared when taking an antifungal and antibiotic. I was reading about this and came across some fairly interesting ideas that autism is possibly linked to intestinal flora changes after antibiotics. Having two doctors as parents, I know they know almost nothing about how the gut bacteria affects health. This is true. If anyone would be interested in this, Adam would be. Adam would be.

25:55 No, I have any why see that again is I have to I have to read this with a dramatic note Yeah, if anyone would be interested in this Adam would be two possible serious ailments Which are poorly understood have linkages to intestinal microbes. This should also make me a knight Sir William he's not on the list. Why is he not on the list? I ask Eric. I don't know Well, yeah, I'm doing a show here what and I have to go on the list we can put him on the list but if it's if it's if it's not true no no these guys they do their own accounting if he says he's a knight and He's and we can you know we can always pull his knighthood if it turns out to be bogus, but I know Your knighthood has been pulled you have been pulled from the knighthood

26:44 William Ashby. You know, I have confidence in Eric. I do. He's got his whole system back up and running. He knows what he's doing. So, I mean, obviously I'll give William the benefit of the doubt. And we have no associate executive producers. Wow. Which is kind of weird. Interesting. It's interesting. All right. So then while we're here, while we're on this spot, plug your e-book because you've been plugging it everywhere. Yes, I go to Insightrack book. InsightTrackBook.com and you can buy a copy of a accumulation of my thoughts over the past year and a half on certain topics. It's a thin book. Including e-books. And uh, which is the second essay in the book. So this is basically just re-runs. It's all text. All re-runs. Stuff you've already written before. Yeah, but I've consolidated and it's all edited. Yeah, yeah, I understand. And where do we go to find this great book? InsightTrackBook.com

27:43 Or you can pick it up off of Amazon, but then I lose a dollar or something like that. Oh, but it is on Amazon. Yeah, it is on Amazon. And by the way, it went on Amazon the same day Bezos bought the Washington Post, which I think was an omen. Yeah, I don't know if that's good or not. Can I ask you a question about this? How's it doing? Is the book selling? Is it still about 23 or 24 copies? Really? Mimi's glad she came down. You should be able to do at least a couple thousand of this thing. My target is actually 2,000.

28:25 And how did you come up with the price point of $9.49? I liked it. Okay, there's no other... It's just a gut price. Just numerology. I did one of the things I'm involved in here is an exercise in publishing because the e-book process to make an e-book or take anything and repurpose it or whatever you want to do and then turn it into an e-book and then actually get it out there so it goes on a Kindle properly is not hard at all but it's also tricky. So it's like one of those things, so I'm gonna do an e-book on how to do these e-books. Because meanwhile I'm talking to Theo Shaw, you gotta look at Kawasaki's book, Ape. So I gotta copy that, it's just a book about how to write books, it's horrible. It doesn't tell you anything you need to know.

29:14 Well, I definitely want to try this. Can I also, if so, if I created an Amazon giblet, as I call it, which you call an e-book, I call it a giblet. If I created one of these about how to set up your own email server, could I give it away and just have people donate money like my value for value thing? Or does it have to cost something? You're going to have to price it or Amazon won't carry it. You could give it away but not put it on Amazon. But you can still get it on your Kindle. Can't you just make something a Kindle file? Yeah, you could create a small pamphlet length e-book and you could put it on a... you just have a link, some page that has it. You point to everybody, go over there and you can download it.

29:55 and you go there and you click download, it comes in as a Mobi file, and then when you hook your Kindle up to the computer, you open the docs file in the Kindle and then you take that Mobi file and you just slide it right in there and boom. No, no, no, there's got to be an easier way. Can't you email it to your Kindle? Can't you do that? You can do that, can't you? You have to slide it onto the Kindle somehow. Yeah, no, I thought you could email it. Your Kindle has a special Kindle email address. You can email stuff to it. Well... I think. Alright, well, there's a bunch of Kindles that don't have connectivity. So that's not gonna help. You know what? I'm just posted on my blog You know, it's like a good drive I already don't want it. I already don't want it. I'll just post it on the blog and everyone is compound woman

30:40 My mom and I gave her a microwave. Get it out of here! Get this thing out of here! It sparks! It sparks. What are you putting in it? Did she put her silverware in there? I don't know, it was sparking. She said get it out! Okay, okay mom. You know what's uncanny? Your mom sounds just like Mimi. I don't know what's going on. I'm surrounded by women that thought that way. Yeah, I hear you. All right. Well, anyway, definitely check out... I'll put a link to the... I already have it in there, a link to John's e-book in the show notes at 537.nashownotes.com. And thank you very much to our executive producers today, along with our 537 episode club member, that'll be the Black Knight of Silicon Valley.

31:32 Just fantastic to see everything come through. Thank you very much. You've definitely helped us through our vacation period. And to support us for the Sunday show... And of course we always need the propagation of our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens. But I am serious. I am going to put together a tutorial. It'll be how to set up your mail server for idiots. Oh no, I can't do that I guess because that'll be a violation of some kind of trademark. Actually, to be honest about it, well you know they trademark these things nowadays. There's no such thing as a copyrighted book title.

32:23 Well, that's why I said trademark. I'm sure they can do... Lanham Act would make sense for that. I've been through that. It doesn't matter. I'm going to put it together because I was able to put together a server, an email server, everything in under an hour. And all you have to do is cut and paste a couple of things. That's the title. You got your title. Use the under an hour. Under an hour. Monica moniker and use that as your trademark gimmick for all the little books you do I was actually thinking this week in email servers was No, not a good idea them Them's weeks in email servers whims whatever no, but it's I'm quite proud of myself There's this there's this new package which open source called I read mail you should look at this just just for yucks Just to see what they're doing

33:14 I love the model because you got I read mail it's a collection of a whole bunch of packages it really installs with just a couple of you know commands command line functions It has a web client, which is pretty good. The only thing obviously I screwed up today is somewhere there's a quota thing. But the model these guys have is they're selling a super admin package that's like, I don't know, 300 bucks a year if you want to license it to really be able to do multiple domains and really deep, just really, it's a very good admin package, which you can do without, but they're basically selling that on top of it. I think it's a great model.

33:54 And also I learned about graylisting. Have you heard about this? I've heard of graylisting, but I don't know what you're going to talk about. Well, so you have blacklist, whitelist on email servers. I didn't know about the graylisting. What it is, is when, so if you send me an email and my mail server has never seen your host with your name before, it'll send back a message and say, oh, we've got a policy issue on this. Please try again. And your email server automatically knows to try it again in five minutes. It might be ten minutes, but it's typically about five minutes. And if you come back with the same identifier, then you're through and then you're whitelisted. Because a lot of these spam guys, they don't do fully... What is it? Yeah, verify. They just blow out everything. Yeah, they just blow shit out. They don't care. Yeah, they come up once, they're not going to come again. Rejected, they move on.

34:53 And it really makes a difference in the amount of spam. Because I'm just watching the log. It's an interesting process. But you know, you will have a delay sometime and when someone sends you an email for the first time. Yeah, I think that's when you get that message, delayed message. That's exactly what it is. I get that. When you send one of those back to me, I'll get a message, delayed message. Exactly. Exactly. And it says, do not take any action. Do not worry about it. You shouldn't be receiving that. I mean, that should be transparent. But sometimes I guess it slips through. But it's an interesting Maybe it's really old, but it seemed to me like something that's relatively at least it was new to me I'm like, oh, that's interesting. It seems to be working You should explain that in the little book My little giblet which will be free to all and I can't believe that I spent you probably spent the same amount of time I put five clips together of Obama and Leno. I got a bunch We're gonna say be saying the same things obviously so I

35:51 Why don't you, do you want to start off with these? Because I found this to be a very obvious appearance by the president to talk to the human resources. Oh please, this was the most rigged bull crap thing I have ever seen. That's what I'm saying. It was rigged. I have a, we'll start with this. They actually were chatting for a minute. And then Leno had his, he had two blue sheets of paper on the thing and he was literally looking down at these sheets reading the questions. I know. Some of them were just so incredibly bad and it seemed to me like it was

36:33 Just to highlight, just to highlight top level, it was A. to tell the American people nothing is wrong with what we're doing to your email, telephone, text messages, the camera under your bed, nothing's wrong with that and fuck Russia! Well, here's the point. I actually have a couple of gaffs that I don't know whether you caught, but I got one. I caught them all. You're gonna go, oh. I caught them all. How did I miss that? Okay. But let's start with, here's where Leno, he's yakking there, yakking and joking about their wives, and then Leno, this is the clip that Leno, here's where Leno starts the script, and you can hear him break right into a script. Okay.

37:11 Three years I know exactly what you're saying Hey, I gotta ask you about this. Everyone is concerned about these embassy closings. How significant is this threat? It's significant enough that we're taking every precaution I love how when someone tries to conversation and John you and I know that because we've been doing this for you know decades when someone Conversationally tries to roll into the script. There's always that like no, no, you know, let me there's always a little stutter you know it's like always let me let me you know I was just wondering about this thing it's so obvious to anyone who's done this so so and I just gonna get some these I'm gonna run through the short I took really the snippets here there's one I just want to play it for the for the record which is the Obama says China is slowing down we I don't know if this is official but he says it

38:02 Okay. I just want this for the record. And when you've got problems in Europe or China slowing down? Okay, why do we need that for the record? I'm sorry, I needed that for DH Unplugged. It's just you accidentally dropped it into today's show. Is that it? I just wanted to get it out there. Because there's no real, the Chinese say they're not slowing down. This is a real controversy whether China's slowing down. And by the way, Obama goes on and says, you know, this is going to be a huge problem for us. Yeah, because we're going to end up having to build stuff in the United States. That was very strange. Wait, wait, wait, stop. Why is this a huge problem? Don't we want to build stuff in the United States? Yes, but he says it's a problem. That whole clip goes well if there's, you know, that's why the G20 is so important because there's going to be trouble in Europe and China slowing down. That affects our economy. What it affects is that, you know, we don't buy as much Chinese garbage.

38:50 All right Now here is the you did again. These are short This is a Leno asking what I thought was the most disgusting of all the leading questions, and this is the disgusting clip Safe to say that we learned about these threats to the NSA intelligence program is that a fair assessment well You know this intelligence Gathering that we do is a critical component of counterterrorism Yeah I think there was more to that and let me just come in here with my clip. I think I had something extra that you might have missed. The NSA leaker Edward Snowden, some call him a whistleblower. What do you call him? I got that. You got this clip? Yeah, go on, play it. We don't know yet exactly what he did other than what he said on the internet. I'm sorry, you're wrong Mr. President. He didn't say anything on the internet.

39:46 Mr. Snowden gave everything to the Guardian and the Washington Post through the filmographer Laurie Poitras. Now why are you saying he put it on the internet? I was baffled by that myself. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought that was... Okay, now here... No, that's good. Now here is the one... Wait, wait, wait, no, I got it. Here's the one that's important. I think you missed this one about the NSA. Some skepticism. And I think there's a... We should have a healthy skepticism about what government's doing. I had the programs reviewed. We put in some additional safeguards to make sure that there's federal court oversight as well as congressional oversight that there is no spying on Americans. We don't have a domestic spying program. What we do have are some mechanisms where we can track

40:37 a phone number or an email address that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat. And that information is useful, but what I've said before... Here comes the performative. I want to make sure I repeat, and that is we should be skeptical about the potential encroachments on privacy. None of the revelations show that government has actually abused these powers, but they're... None of the revelations show that government has abused these powers, which doesn't mean it's not actually happening. He's actually covering and just saying, well, nothing that came out shows that we're doing anything wrong. You need to put George Bush's head on the guy when he talks like that. I give you that. That's a good one. That's a good point. Thank you.

41:27 Now, I think, now if we're gonna get into that, I'm gonna have to give you a topper. Oh no! Top me, Johnny boy! This is a very short clip where I just think this is, this to me was like a clip of the day. quality clip this is Obama talking about the odds of getting killed by terrorists we're gonna live our lives and the odds of people dying in a terrorist attack obviously are still a lot lower than in a car accident unfortunately unless you're Michael Hicks Wait a minute wait a minute unfortunately no live our lives and the odds of people dying in a terrorist attack obviously are still a lot lower than in a car accident unfortunately Wow you've already set it up my crap and I'll give it to you then damn

42:21 Well there's more, but I didn't hear the unfortunately the first time around. How does someone, I don't know man, it's like... By the way, this is part I think of an overall theme that I'm convinced is going on. They are not getting the track, this NSA thing is just a part of the... because the NSA has not come up with any excuse for all these taps and they haven't arrested anybody, there's nothing really been done. fiasco and so people are getting sick of this terrorism thing and that's why Obama said, oh your chances of getting killed are less than getting killed in a car wreck. Unfortunately because he would like to see more terrorists. More, more terror. Well now I got something here. I got a little, this one, I don't know if you picked up on this one. What I've tried to do as president is not overreact, but make sure that as much as possible the American people understand that there are genuine risks out there.

43:16 What's great about what we've seen with America over the last several years is how resilient we are. So after the Boston bombing, for example, the next day folks are out there, they're going to ballgames what are you talking about the whole city of boston shut down people were supposed to cower in their houses crouch and power what are you talking about making sure that we're not reacting in a way that somehow shuts us down you were literally shut down a ship literally shut down the city and that's the right reaction uh... terrorists

43:55 I mean, I can't... Of course we know that this is a script, but I mean, what kind of credibility does anyone have when he's saying these things? Literally, there was like a huge manhunt. They shut down the entire city. Stay in your homes. Be afraid. Don't wait until we come and save you with our guns. And this, I'm baffled. Now knowing, again we have a number of clips here people have to put up with but these are really good because this is the opportunity where Obama actually gets out from behind the podium, tries to talk even though this is very rehearsed and he stutters a lot but...

44:33 there's a moment that I'm this is to me one of the really great clips I have is a short clip there's a moment where Leno he's got his talking points and the and he tries to put together some sort of a question and he has all these things he's got a jam in there he's got the meme about oh Snowden should have stayed in the country and and you know taking his punishment like a man which is one of the memes that he threw into this just like a man and all that sort of thing but he gets a bunch of anybody's got a blast no near the stripper girlfriend also bull crap so leno this is the question little loses talking points this is where leno

45:10 He's got all these talking points, so he just starts babbling. He just throws the words in it with no connection. It's hilarious. This guy's being paid money by an outside firm, live in Hawaii, got the stripper girlfriend. All of a sudden you're all upset with what the government is doing. And you go to another country. I mean, in my era, Daniel Ellsberg stood in the town square and said, I've got this. Got arrested. New York Times. and the president going, what does he throw the New York Times in for? And what has Ellsberg got to do with the stripper girlfriend? Well this is what Lena was supposed to be saying. He sort of turned it around because that has been the talking point I've heard certainly on MSNBC, etc. and like Morning Joe. It's like Ellsberg, well you know Ellsberg, he came out but he stood his ground like a man. He took it like a man. And you know Snowden is pussy.

46:05 They've been saying this over and over. Yeah, and then meanwhile we also, all we have to, people have to look into is Binney. He's the NSA guy who was a whistleblower. The FBI arrested him and his kids at gunpoint while he was taking a shower. In seconds. in seconds and made his life miserable and meanwhile we listen to this bullcrap from Obama with this little clip here. You can play as much of this as you want. Obama pro-whistleblower, he says. Let me ask you about this NSA leaker Edward Snowden. Some call him a whistleblower. What do you call him?

46:41 Well, we don't know yet exactly what he did other than what he said on the internet and it's important for me not to prejudge something. Like I did with Bradley Manning where I said he was guilty. Yeah, let's not prejudge anything. He'll go to trial and he will have a lawyer and due process and we can make those decisions. I can tell you that There are ways if you think that the government is abusing a program of coming forward. In fact, I, through executive order, signed whistleblower protection for intelligence officers or people who are involved in the intelligence industry. Yeah, let me get right on that. So you don't have to break the law. You don't have to... Wait a minute, he just said here he broke the law. So you don't have to break the law?

47:36 Right the guys that hasn't been tried the whole thing. No, he was not gonna make judgments, but he's ronnie phony phony phony phony It's disturbing, you know, it really is and the lack of any kind of Counter discussion, it's just where is everybody on this? This is sad. Leno is really sickening in this and the worst case, I think one of the worst things he does is this gay diatribe. Now you talked and discussed the real situation about gays in Russia. Well hold on a second, because I have it. I have here from one of our producers, I asked for it, now I had already seen this but I asked specifically for a translation and I have it here, the Russian gay law translated by our producer Mr. Prayer. Just one paragraph, here it is, so the offense

48:35 And I believe this to be a true translation. Propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations among minors expressed in the dissemination of information aimed at developing in minors of non-traditional sexual directives attractiveness of non-traditional sexual relations a distorted picture of the social equivalence of traditional and non-traditional sexual relations, or the imposition of information on non-traditional sexual relationships causing interest in such relationships if these actions do not have a criminal offense. And the fines are $100 fine and a three-year ban I think on entry to Russia for individuals and for companies can be up to $30,000 translated from their rubles or whatever it is. But the the bottom line is it is not although sad

49:29 It is not a ban on being gay or anything of the like and it is not just Putin, it is Russia and I have some of the statistics, 88% according to some polling companies in Russia of the Russian population are on board with this. While it seems foreign to us, it is a far cry from you go to jail if you're gay, which is pretty much I think what Leno said. Well, what Leno says on this show is worse than that. Now we should also mention we had a guy in Sweden

50:07 We'll talk about this later, but this is a part of a concerted anti-Putin thing. It's all about anti-Putin. In fact, the president... Did you have the Cold War thing where he's talking about, oh, Putin's back in a Cold War mentality, he's thinking Cold War. It's funny, I didn't clip that one either. It was funny, but that Cold War mentality comment is funny because they had an ambassador, I think it was the ambassador to Russia, in fact, during, I think, Reagan or Clinton. Who said that if anybody's acting with a Cold War mentality, it's us and I believe that's true well before now here listen to this I'm gonna lead into it. So we're gonna do the is it the Which one is it? Which one is the? Well, I gotta set it up. It's the gay roundup. Okay. I was just gonna give you a little 12-second of Aaron Burnett. Oh

50:58 Okay, hit it. Russia is Russia, Nazi Germany. Tonight there are more comparisons being made about Russia's crackdown on gays and lesbians and the Nazis' persecution of Jewish citizens, homosexuals and others that Hitler wanted to eliminate. This is where it's gone. We've now got Erin Burnett, and she actually throws to the Leno clip right after this, saying that Russia are the new Nazis because they want to round up the gays and gas them. Well, I find this disturbing because these are obvious White House talking points, again anti-Putin. And so what we have in this next clip is Leno making a statement that is totally false. It's a complete lie. And Obama, instead of saying, well you got that a little bit wrong and correcting him like a president, like a presidential guy should do. He should say, well you got that wrong, it's not quite that bad.

51:52 but what he does instead, but he doesn't agree, but he doesn't disagree with it at all and he goes off and kind of changes the subject. So Leno says, oh they're gonna kill all the gays and the President Obama says, well you know I'm against people that don't like gays. I mean he doesn't, he just disconnects from Leno, lets it stand as though it's true. This is a horrible, horrible, horrible person this situation. This is the worst clip in terms of, I mean this would be a good clip of the day, but it's so disgusting that I hate to give it any sort of an award, but listen to this. Well something that shocked me about Russia, and I'm surprised this is not a huge story, suddenly homosexuality is against the law.

52:36 Lie that is not the fact it is not I mean this is how it's round up the Jews. Let's run up the gays Let's round up the blood. I mean, it's let's round up the G now Let's wind up the let's run of the dumb comedians starts with that you round up people who you don't want I mean I'm why is not more of the world outraged at this well I've been very clear that When it comes to Universal rights. Here's what I think happened. I think that Leno was off script bringing this up. Or maybe they never scripted it. It was like, oh, I'll bring up the Russian gay thing. Okay, yeah, great. And then I'll talk about how much I love gays and lesbians and transgenders. And by the way, he forgets bisexuals in this and I'm very perturbed by that.

53:24 the president forgets. So I think Leno just went off and you can hear the president struggling which is why I think he's like okay I'm gonna leave that one over there that's up to you. Well he did a great job of hanging in there after Leno went off the rails. Comes to people's basic freedoms. that whether you are discriminating on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, you are violating the basic morality that I think should transcend every country. I gotta say something about this because people misunderstand

54:07 And I think a lot of people listening to the show will say, well yeah, but you know, it is about hating the gays. I mean, that's almost as, you know, you can only extrapolate things so far as to what they are. There's a far cry from the legislation that they have about propagandizing in front of minors. not in coal miners, but children who are underage to you know, you're not allowed to be gay this and you're gonna round you up and I have this conversation with Mickey because she says well, you know, but that's just where it starts and then you know before you know it, you know, if you if I want to have a gay bar and I'm advertising they're gonna shut me down and I'm like Maybe you know, you can take it that far but what people are missing this is about making Russia look bad and

54:57 And we have, I mean look, we have nothing but three and a half million black people in jail here in America. What are you talking about? Hello? I mean this is basically, you know. Kettle, this is the pot calling. So there's this clip where this is just as if Leno knows anything, he throws this KGB zinger in there. And Putin seems to me like one of those old school KGB guys. Well, he headed up the KGB. Yeah, well that's what I mean. I'm sorry, no, he did not head up the KGB. In fact, he only rose to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

54:07 And I think a lot of people listening to the show will say, well yeah, but you know, it is about hating the gays. I mean, that's almost as, you know, you can only extrapolate things so far as to what they are. There's a far cry from the legislation that they have about propagandizing in front of minors. not in coal miners, but children who are underage to you know, you're not allowed to be gay this and you're gonna round you up and I have this conversation with Mickey because she says well, you know, but that's just where it starts and then you know before you know it, you know, if you if I want to have a gay bar and I'm advertising they're gonna shut me down and I'm like Maybe you know, you can take it that far but what people are missing this is about making Russia look bad and

54:57 And we have, I mean look, we have nothing but three and a half million black people in jail here in America. What are you talking about? Hello? I mean this is basically, you know. Kettle, this is the pot calling. So there's this clip where this is just as if Leno knows anything, he throws this KGB zinger in there. And Putin seems to me like one of those old school KGB guys. Well, he headed up the KGB. Yeah, well that's what I mean. I'm sorry, no, he did not head up the KGB. In fact, he only rose to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

56:02 He did not run the KGB. You can find this on Wikipedia and the president said, oh yeah, oh yeah he ran the KGB. And what you maybe should mention did George H.W. Bush did run the CIA. Actually did run the CIA, yeah. It's not true. He resigned from active state security services with the rank of lieutenant colonel on August 20th, 1991. That is a far cry from running the KGB. Let's listen to that again because that was another one of those exchanges and it's insulting to me. And it was also scripted. Putin seems to me like one of those old school KGB guys. Well, he headed up the KGB. Yeah, well that's what I mean. He has that mentality. I mean look at this picture here. You two. And then we're going to show some pictures. Oh yeah, that's his Cold War mentality. Now did you catch the Olympic Games thing?

56:58 I got the Olympic Games won. Now... Now, what did you catch in it? Okay, can I play the clip and then can I say what I caught? Okay. I think Putin and Russia have a big stake in making sure the Olympics work and I think they understand that for most of the countries that participate in the Olympics, we wouldn't tolerate gays and lesbians being treated differently. They're athletes, they're there to compete and if Russia wants to uphold the Olympic spirit, then every judgment should be made on the track or in the swimming pool or on the balance beam and people's sexual orientation shouldn't have anything to do with it. Yeah, unfortunately we don't swim or do track or balance beam during the Winter Olympics. Yeah, I got that too. The Winter Olympics! Yeah, he's so out of it. And then, and it was like, oh yes, oh yes! Yeah, the audience is clapping. It's the Winter Olympics, you idiots!

57:59 I mean it would be taking you know ice dancing you know if you'd said that it would be skating, skiing, ski jumping. I mean that means you haven't you're just you're just a puppet. That to me was the clincher it's just like wow and and by the way aren't the Winter Olympics on NBC? Yeah, they have all the Olympics. Let's see, who had Winter Olympics? Yeah, no, it's NBC, I guarantee it. Really? Wow. And then Leno should have been, well of course he can't correct the president I guess. Yeah, 2014 Winter Olympics, NBC. So they plug it. So they're not going to push that one. No. That agenda is not going on. It was a crappy plug because it was wrong. On the balance beam during the Sochi Winter Olympics, ladies and gentlemen,

58:47 So there's a... so I heard a gaffe in this clip. Actually, I got two gaps that I want to I want to discuss we're almost done by the way for people out there are sick of this no, I don't think anyone's sick of it because If you did, I think a lot of people don't see this, you know, you'd be amazed or they only see some highlights where you know But now we're actually pulling the whole thing apart. This was so full of incorrect just factually incorrect things lies even that it was astounding to me it was This we are Russia see God Okay, so there's a funny gaffe in here that I thought was weird But this is the gaze part two with weird gaffe and see if you can spot it's just very minor minor hold on a second I don't see I see odd game Yeah, sorry here. We go all right, and I have no patience for countries that

59:42 try to treat gays or lesbians or transgender persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them. Now, what's happening in Russia is not unique. When I traveled to Africa, there were some countries that are doing a lot of good things for their people, who we're working with and helping on development issues, but in some cases have persecuted gays and lesbians. And it makes for I didn't get it. I must say I didn't. He says things in Russia. He was going to say something else. He says things in, it was either gonna say Germany or Japan. Oh, hold on. It was on his mind. So Germany and Japan are on his mind. Listen, hold on a second. Development issues, but in some cases of persecuted gays and lesbians. Where was that? It was right dead in the middle. Intimidate them or harmful to them. Now,

1:00:40 What's happening in Russia? Sounds like Japan. Yes, that's what I was thinking. Sounds like he's going into Japan. Good catch by the way. Good catch. I didn't hear that one. So Japan. Write it down. Put it in the book man. Something's gonna happen. Gays in Nippon. It's on his mind. Gays in Japan. Could be. Yeah, something gay in Japan. You watch. And here's another one I caught which is the odd gaffe about getting rich. You may have heard this one. I'm not absolutely sure what it even means why he did this but he corrects himself And this is a very obvious gap, but I but it's a good this is part of it Just getting by meme in here and some other stuff But just discuss this after they hear it where if folks work hard They can find a good job that pays a decent wage. They can send their kids to college. They got health care They can count on they can retire even if they don't get rich or even if they don't get rich No, no, please. I'll roll it back. I'm sorry. I'm sorry

1:01:39 Where if folks work hard they can find a good job that pays a decent wage. They can send their kids to college They got health care they can count on they can retire even if they don't get rich or even if they're not rich And that we're creating these ladders of opportunities For people to get into the new stupid Mexican you came to America. You didn't even get rich. How dumb are you? It's the easiest thing in the world So I found that to be a very peculiar switchback because he says they can retire even if they don't get rich. It's fine, isn't it? Buy it standalone? Yeah, but... So I'm saying, well, you know, you can retire here even if you don't get rich. And then I go on. I wouldn't go, even if you don't... even if you aren't rich. What is the point of making that switchback? Yeah, of making the correction. Hmm.

1:02:32 It's probably some training, some trigger that he's got, you know, about how to talk and things to say and how to particularly talk about wealth and money and riches. Maybe. I mean, it just sounded like some training kicked in there, some Pavlovian thing. That could be. I just found that one to be the most peculiar. And last, we have the extradition disappointment, which was Just a pure piece of propaganda again with a lead in you know written question acted as though it wasn't Were you surprised that Russia granted Snowden? Asylum I was disappointed because you know even though we don't have an extradition treaty with them Traditionally we have tried to respect if there's a lawbreaker or an alleged lawbreaker in their country we

1:03:24 Evaluate it and we try to work with them. They didn't do that with us and in some ways it's reflective of Some underlying challenges that we've had with the with Russia lately. Yeah, and you know like I don't know Syria Yeah, yeah stuff like that, you know just minor minor little my little things we got going on with Russia lately this was a really a bizarre performance I thought Gave him the whole show by the way. And this will go down in the history books and we may not be around for this one, but this will be written up as an example of where America was off its rocker with propaganda. No, actually I'll add something to this. You know, the president is working on his bargain.

1:04:15 The bargain for the American people, which I guess part of the American dream is owning your own home. This is now back on the agenda and the president's idea here is again some kind of reform, you know, blah, blah, blah, make it easier to pay for your home, to buy a home, you know, not everyone's going to, but whatever it is. But remind me, John, what is the definition of fascism again? Well, it depends on who, which one of our listeners is writing us a note about it. But generally speaking, it's when the, when the governments and the corporations work together hand in hand to,

1:04:55 benefit the large stakeholders as opposed to the public itself. So if you are the president and you're trying to get some kind of bargain for people, whatever it is, and you know and you can do this through legislation, but if you would actually work with I don't know like a big real estate agency, would that be weird? Would that be wrong if you like work with... Not if you're a fascist. Zillow presents a better bargain for responsible homeowners with President Barack Obama. Now here's your moderator, Zillow CEO Spencer Dreskopf. Welcome and thank you for joining us today.

1:05:37 Zillow is honored to host this unprecedented event and connect homeowners, renters, and prospective buyers with President Obama, who's ready to answer your housing questions. The housing market has come a long way in the last year. We're all very happy to see most local markets bouncing back after the housing recession, with many homeowners freed from negative equity and sellers enjoying a competitive environment. Still, there are concerns about the future, and we've received thousands of questions over the last couple of days via social media. Today we'll post some of these questions, your questions, to the president. I'm honored to welcome President Barack Obama. Mr. President. Great to see you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Is this... is it just me? Or is this wrong? It seems a bit wrong. I mean, it's like an infomercial. It could be you too, but... There's a whole infomercial with Zillow Presents. I mean, they're a commercial real estate agency. Yeah, now they're apparently endorsed by the president, which I thought was illegal.

1:06:37 And then they've got these questions and they're shill questions. They're like the people are, you know, they're doing selfies on their iPhone to record the video. It's not even a Skype. It's just recorded. And it's all talking points they can't even get through. You got to hear just one. Yeah. Mr. President, our first question comes from Andrew Houston in Gainesville, Florida. Let's watch his video. Let's watch his video, which I'm sure is not produced at all to look authentic. Good morning Mr. President, my name is Andrew Houston in Gainesville, Florida and I was wondering how you feel rising interest rates over the last three months are going to affect the housing recovery going forward. I was actually fortunate enough to refinance at historically low rates earlier this year. These were historically low rates? Oh wait! I was happy to refinance, this is why I always talk. I was happy to refinance at historically low rates for a local lender. Not what, you know.

1:07:34 Hello, memo to White House. We're on to you. We figured it out. You got put the video in the show knows you should look at that thing it's bizarre It's just bizarre every one of those questions is like it's bizarre The whole thing is bizarre and what and to what end to what point people are running out There's no one giving you no historically low rate. I go there. They laugh me out of the other shop Yeah, we have all kinds of equity and I can't get a loan I have I have no debt and I can't get a loan. In fact, Eric, the shill has a story where he was like one of the banks up there. We finally got a clue that there's a good bank up in the Pacific Northwest in Washington that matches the mechanics bank for being a really good bank. But this bank actually loans money. Mechanics bank never does.

1:08:29 It's called Umpqua and so Umpqua Bank is where we're trying to switch everything up there to and I got this as an unsolicited endorsement from some guy in line at the mechanics bank. Oh, really? And the guy says, yeah, this is a great bank. I said, this is a great bank. I said, I know a guy in Texas that uses this bank, it's so good. He says, yep, but it's not as good as Umpqua. He goes on with a long story. He says, you think this bank is good? Umpqua, there's your bank. Umpqua. And so... How do you spell Umpqua? U-M-P-Q-U-A, I believe. Umpqua. Umpqua. Okay. And anyway, so Umpqua... It actually says, welcome to Umpqua, the world's greatest bank.

1:09:14 Mimi thought that was hilarious That's great. That's a market for you. We want our customers to be happy really really happy It's kind of cool. I'm down with that yeah, so we're gonna look into umco, but Eric got to run around He's got they got equity they got property him and his dad Don't they own like half of Finland? They got a lot of money, and they can't get and they've got to run around from one of these other little local Dipshit banks which are up there and they they even put a lien on the property without even giving him any money And then said they couldn't give him any money. They put a lien on the property as though they own it How can you do that these banks? This is like the Bank of America to try to foreclose on some guy's property They didn't even they never gave him a loan

1:10:03 the guy had the property paid off and the shares were knocking on the door because the bank said, ah, let's take this guy's property. I thought this happened to Eric DeShill. I thought you were talking about that. Now I know Bank of America a-holes. That's why they got crashed in the Hudson. Well, they're definitely not a good operation. Of course, talking about that sort of thing, they don't want to change the subject completely. So this is a story I heard on Democracy Now! about some I guess some big protest over here in Richmond at the refinery. I can see the refinery from my house and I didn't know anything about this but they got a big run-up because of you remember 350.org or whatever it is? Yeah the the number of particles per million of carbon. Bill McKibben is the guy who runs it and I think that they've turned themselves into one of those you know the

1:11:00 The Rainbow Coalition, Jesse Jackson's operation, makes most of its money through a form of intimidation. They go to a company and they say, you guys are not getting enough, not hiring enough blacks, you're not doing this, you're not doing that. Yeah, we're going to make some trouble until you pay. Oh, are you going to give us a big donation? Oh yeah. Okay, well we can work something out now. Yeah, exactly. So I believe this might be going on here because if you listen to this clip on Standard Oil and listen to McKibben go on and on, and by the way, I'm going to As someone who was in the business oil refining industry as a chemist and then I was in the air pollution district and my assignments were oil refineries. The Bay Area's got a bunch of oil refiners and I can assure you that the Standard Oil Refinery here in Richmond is one of the cleanest of the entire group.

1:11:49 to be honest about it. So, but here's what you end up with anyway. 210 people were arrested at the Chevron refinery in Richmond, California in the latest mass mobilization against fossil fuel dependence and climate change. Thousands of people marched to the refinery to condemn safety issues at the plant and to call for renewable alternatives to fossil fuels. The protest came ahead of Tuesday's one-year anniversary of a massive fire at the Chevron refinery, which sent toxic smoke billowing into the air, hospitalizing roughly 15,000 people with respiratory issues. The city of Richmond has filed a lawsuit against Chevron over the fire, claiming it followed a series of similar incidents. This weekend's protest was part of a wave of summer heat actions led by the environmental group 350.org. The group's founder, Bill McKibben, was among those who were arrested.

1:12:39 The reason that we're here is because Chevron is a really bad actor, okay? In the place where they get the oil, they're a bad actor. Ask the people in Canada fighting their fracking, ask the people in Ecuador who've had to live with their waste. When they get it here to refine it, they're a bad actor. They sent 15,000 of their neighbors to the hospital and they are bad, bad actors on this planet. They have nine billion barrels of oil in their reserves, okay? Okay, burn most of those then we cannot deal with climate change It sounds I mean at people if you haven't read it read Michael Crichton state of fear this guy could have been what he could have just walked out of that book You know what I mean. Yeah, it sounds just like it. Oh

1:13:31 It's all rehearsed and it's all part of the process. I can assure you that if Standard Oil had contributed to 350.org, there would have been no problem. Yeah, no problem. So it's so it's that by the way is part of the program and that is In State of Fear, which again is just a fabulous book to read, even if you think, you know, that like they're saying today that there will be no ice on the Arctic in 2050, which I still might make it. I might be able to witness the ice-free pole.

1:14:08 Even if you if you buy into that you should read this book because you know this is exactly what it describes where these you know where the big oil companies are all contributors to these to these Outfits that basically protest against them. They take the money they take the money. Okay. Well ease off on you We'll go to it. We'll go to a BP tomorrow. Yeah, they got Unical to go after some other play whatever a bunch of finders around here exactly So while we're on the climate change bandwagon, I didn't want to clip this whole thing, but I just thought that this was like really getting out there. And see if you can kind of imagine where this actually, what kind of conclusions you get from the rising temperatures and war theory clip. So it turns out that when we look at

1:14:58 temperature, it actually looks as though the relationship is pretty continuous. So pretty much wherever you are in the modern world, we tend to observe that even increasing the temperature by a little bit leads to higher levels of conflict. But if we look at rainfall data, there does tend to be these sort of threshold effects where very extremely high levels of rainfall or extremely low levels of rainfall tend to be damaging and that's consistent with the economic ideas you've been pointing out particularly because extreme rainfall is very bad for agriculture it's interesting that you tried to do this retrospectively is there a reliable enough data both on human activity and on the natural world to look back into the past and say aha here's a time where rising temperatures can be correlated with increased human violence there's no real conflict

1:15:49 So in other words, that means World War 3 is just around the corner. Yeah, because of global warming. That's right, because we're all pitched off. And by the way, if it wasn't for global warming, no Hitler. That ends the conversation, doesn't it? I like that. I like that. I like that. Well, I saw this too. I saw that people fight more when it's warm. It's warm, so let's go ahead and start a war. You know, I don't know. I live in Austin, Texas. It's 106. You know what? We sit at home. We drink mint julep. We're not going out fighting. Like, hey, hey, wanna go fight? No, man. I'm gonna drink that beer. Okay? Right. Stupid. We don't fight here. We don't. I was surprised. No, I wasn't surprised. I was laughing, really, about the

1:16:50 the obvious propaganda that shows up, they're still trying to figure out how can we get some real benefit out of the Boston bombing. Remember when it first started, when it first happened, we didn't know anything about the Sarnoff brothers, and I should have pulled some of those clips. It was on Patriots Day, it was probably someone from the far right, some crazy wacko who hates taxes, hates the government. Well, luckily, and I know you saw this, We've come around now and we have an Associated Press report, which is of course, you know, that means it must be true.

1:17:27 It turns out that the dead Sarnoff brother, of course, it always has to be the one who can't talk anymore. Well, wait, hold on a second. Are you telling me you're talking about the dead Sarnoff brother that was held down? His head was held down by a guy's boot. Yeah, that would be the one. And even though he's being held down by a guy's boot, his brother runs over him? Yes, with a car back and forth. Yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah. That guy. I just want to get that straight. This is Tamerlan. uh... and so they've they've tracked down this story and this is a you couldn't make it any year any crazier So his mother, the boy's mother, Zubedite, sorry enough, you know, who's also a little bit weird in this, she tried to make ends meet for her family by working as a home health aide after the family arrived in the US. Which, by the way, I think you can't just become a home health aide. You can go help people, you know, this warrants some investigation exactly what that is. But okay.

1:18:23 One of her clients in 2010, so by now I guess she's been trained, was Donald Larkin of Newton, Massachusetts, who was disabled after he was shot in the face 40 years ago during a robbery of a convenience store where he worked. Now Mr. Larkin, this is, I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal now, the BBC has their own version of it, miraculously survived. But people close to the family, no sources, people close to the family said his faculties did not survive. He was intrigued with, and I'm quoting now, far-flung conspiracies they said. He subscribed to newspapers and journals. Oh I love this. Oh no, I got to read this to you, this is crazy. This is the Wall Street Journal.

1:19:08 He subscribed to newspapers and journals that doubted the Holocaust and described the attacks of September 11th, Oklahoma City and the Newtown School as plots by unseen elites, the US and Israeli governments. Now, Mr. Larkin couldn't be interviewed, said his lawyer, Jason Rosenberg. The shooting damaged the executive function area of Mr. Larkin's brain. What is the executive function area? I got to talk to my brain professor about that. Making it difficult for his client to make decisions and impairing, quote, his awareness of the realities of the world. So now if you believe in alternative theory about or this is the messaging, you talk about messaging. Yeah, the messaging is if you believe in alternative theories, then the conspiracy theories propagated by the government about September 11th in Oklahoma City, then you are equal to a brain damaged person.

1:20:08 Who has been shot in the head. Now, Mr. Sarnef, that would be the dead one, began asking his brother to care... Oh, Mrs. Sarnef. Mom began asking Tamron, the dead brother, or his brother it says, to care for Mr. Larkin when she wasn't available. Sounds like a real health care operation to me. Mr. Larkin's wife, Rosemary, a quadriplegic, also needed help at home. Mr. Sarnef seemed to have found a kindred spirit in Mr. Larkin. This is really conjecture here. They became friends and had animated talks about politics, people close to the Larkin family said.

1:20:52 Mr. Larkin also gave him his readings, they said. A Wall Street Journal reporter recently visited Mr. Sarnoff's apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts and read a stack of newspapers mostly borrowed from Mr. Larkin that alleged nefarious conspiracies. So let me get this straight. So a Wall Street Journal reporter walks into, I guess something that should be part of a crime scene, the Sarnev's apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and oh, there's a stack of newspapers, which he then concludes or somehow deduces were borrowed from Mr. Larkin, and they allege nefarious conspiracies. Let's talk about that. The papers included

1:21:30 The First Freedom, an Alabama-based newspaper that espouses, quote, equal rights for whites and whose websites feature a Confederate flag. There you go. Another was The Sovereign, a New York-based publication that alleges the U.S. is under the sway of Israeli lobbyists and that Israel and the Department of Homeland Security were, quote, deeply involved in the Boston bombings. Neither paper returned requests for comment. And here's the one that just slays me. Mr. Sarnoff got his own subscription to American Free Press, a paper that our friends from the Southern Law Poverty Center, well they say here, they say the Southern Law Poverty Center, but I think that's incorrect, I think it's the Southern Poverty Law Center, said that this paper promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories

1:22:22 A spokeswoman for the paper denied it had such an agenda, saying the paper publishes quote, news that established media won't. So again, we're getting very close now. Oh, if you say that you talk about things that the established media won't, you're probably a Jew hater. And here comes. She confirmed that someone bought Mr. Sarnoff a get acquainted 16 week subscription in December. It expired in April at about the time of the Boston Marathon attack. This to me is smoking gun. He didn't get the subscription. Someone did. Someone did. Can you say set up? Possibly?

1:23:10 Yeah, and it was only a one-year subscription. Obviously they knew when... Not no, 16 week! 16 week. Oh, 16 week, just a time to end when they didn't care anymore. I gotta read some more of this. And by the way, it is Southern Poverty. Yeah, it's incorrect in the Wall Street Journal. Government investigators say Islamist radicalism was Mr. Sarnev's motive in planting explosives near the finish line of the race. He frequented jihadi websites, authorities said. And he and his brother built their pressure cooker bombs with the help of Al-Qaeda's online magazine, Inspire, which published an article titled, How to Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom. So this is also all conjecture. None of it is proved, but being printed as fact in the Wall Street Journal. Now, quote,

1:23:55 This is Bruce Hoffman from the director of the security studies at Georgetown University. By the way, I just do not see Al-Qaeda types having any sort of sense of humor in so far as they would make a headline like that that was a not only it was a humorous pun which I do not believe is like a mainstay of the Arabic culture. They have not been doing a lot of stand-up, the Al-Qaeda. This weekend at the comedy store, all right, quote, They, meaning the brothers, were jihadi autodidacts. Wow! And no one person shaped all of their thinking. Jihadi autodidacts, John? How does that work? Mary Ellen O'Toole, former profiler for the FBI, said she doubted that Mr. Sarnoff's extremist American readings would have formed his opinions, but they could have reaffirmed them.

1:24:54 then so what do we have we've so far we've got 9-11 Oklahoma City we have hating Jews we have what else was it Oh Jewish lobby Jews run Congress what we need to throw homegrown radicals with auto-didact we've got the new town means just self-taught wait wait wait we can throw little if let's just throw one more on top of it Mr. Sarnoff also had a marked-up copy of the protocols of the elders of Zion You kidding me? What do they have some sort of a checklist? Can you add this? Can you add that? This is like Leno on that clip where he starts throwing New York, New York Times Ellsberg, stand-up guy, stripper girlfriend, just throws all the memes in at once

1:25:50 Now, are you familiar... It's like a meme dump. Are you familiar with this whole idea, the protocols of the elders of Zion? Yeah, everybody is. No, I don't think everybody is, but it has been... It is what people who call others out as conspiracy theorists and nutjobs, they love pulling out these protocols of the elders of Zion. And here the Wall Street Journal is kind enough to explain to us what it is. A long discredited tract penned in Russia at the beginning of the 20th century. It describes an alleged plan by Jewish leaders to take over the world.

1:26:27 Mr. Sarnaf scrawled 22 words he translated from English to Russian on a back page beginning with Gentile and ending with Mason Gentile Mason and and the Wall Street Journal they just have I mean that they're just stumbling I do they walk and just open some guy's apartment and all this evidence is all over the floor Where's this coming from? This this cannot be taken serious as journalism. No somebody fed this to him whoever it is. Oh, oh And I don't know, it's a very... I'm sure it's a compelling read. Oh my God! It's really... What next? Holy crap! You mean they even believe that stupid old book? Oh my God! Oh! And he uses the word autodidacticism. Dude! Autodidacticismism! Jihadi autodidact. Wow. I'm bi-curious autodidact.

1:27:30 Okay, well that's definitely the piece of crap article of the day. But BBC has a very similar article. The Wall Street Journal expanded in a better way which is more fun to read. Well, it's more Americanized. BBC can only put up with so much of that stuff. Hey, did we not put in the Red Book somewhere that that tour that you know, everyone's talking about get tour get on the onion router get on the tune. No, you never went in the Red Book, but you have mentioned it and and what you've done you've mentioned it every JC I know buzzkill jr. Is always harping on this it was developed for the government and

1:28:08 Yes government project I've always said who the hell would want to you know use that if it was developed by the government It's it's got to be compromised. Oh, oh gee what turns out. It's it's compromised. It's compromised Yeah, all those outlets are all people are getting arrested Wow! It's always like, the funny thing about Tor, I always thought was that you volunteered to be a Tor outlet. You know, the way Tor works. For people who don't know, we can explain it quickly. It's a... Go ahead, please. It's called the Onion Router and what happens is you send a packet into this, it's like a cloud but it's an onion and it gets encrypted and de-encrypted and swapped around and switched to here to there and there and the IPs change and it pops out at some anonymous

1:28:53 port as you know just shows up and comes out this weird port it's got an IP that's hooked to the guy whoever owns that port and and guys are always getting in trouble for because a lot of kiddie porn and stuff would go through his port at home but because he was a volunteer supposedly and I kept hearing these stories this is what got me suspicious I kept hearing these stories about people who said I'm going to be part of the tour network and I'm going to be one of the exit ports And then the guy would always supposedly be picked up by the cops every so often because what was coming out of his port with his specific IP address was all kinds of weird junk. And I said, well then nobody would ever become a volunteer to be an exit port unless they were in the government and they didn't have to worry about all this harassment from law enforcement. Exactly. And ta-da! Ta-da! That's exactly what happened. Yeah. So nuts.

1:29:53 The giant voice system now that you know, I'm just seeing stories about this every single day people are getting pretty annoyed by their iPhones With amber alerts, you know your iPhone iOS 6 But I got some guys who are running iOS 7 and the amber alerts are just popping off day and night. I And I think you can turn off some, but you may not be able to turn off the giant voice system when the president needs to address you. And Jeff Pelton, one of our producers, sent me a screenshot. Now, you tell me what's wrong with this. So on Monday, August 5th, he sent me a screenshot. I see AT&T, 4G, Amber Alert Boulevard.

1:30:33 California, Amber Alert, License Plate, CWCU986, California, Blue, Nissan, Versa, 4-door. What's wrong with this? I don't know. It's not, it's just, it's alerting me to a car. Yeah. It's not telling me what's going on, it's not saying that... Oh, they had that exact same amber alert all over yesterday. On all the freeways that normally tell you it takes 10 minutes to get here or there. It says, it says child abduction. No, no, but it doesn't say that. Oh, why not? That's my question. So now the government is just like, oh, we just need to find a Dvorak. Lexus! White! 1982! License!

1:31:20 It's not saying that this is a child abduction. That's what you want to do. You want to slowly devolve the system so it's got nothing to do with Amber. Exactly. And it's just you're trying to get this. It'll be bank robbers, it'll be citizens that are of interest, persons of interest. Yes, yes, exactly. Well, hello? Yeah, but we still need to tell people about this. Yeah, we do and that's what we're doing. But yeah, that would be expected. Yeah, we got this system. Let's use it. In fact, there was a situation in Seattle where they had a real amber alert, but these idiot cops decided to just do it after rush hour to slow down traffic too much. The girl ended up dead or something. Oops. I got an off the wall one here. So first I heard this commercial and I said, oh,

1:32:13 Oh, this is interesting because, you know, somebody's finally paying attention to the high fructose corn syrup controversy, even though you have this huge lobby, corn lobby, that was just promoting the sweetener, right? Yeah, I got the clip. We know about this. so by listening to this commercial and it's so well done and it's such a blast against high fructose corn syrup in terms of putting a meme to pound a whole everyone has a sense of it you know I don't know maybe I shouldn't be eating the ketchup I should get the organic it's got sugar I think the sugar lobby actually wrote this and scripted this not only them but some really refined public relations person

1:32:52 because when you walk away from this Yoplait commercial that just came out about we don't use it anymore, we don't use high fructose corn syrup anymore because you told us not to, you the wise public, I think this is the biggest slam, the biggest threat to the industry there is I've ever seen. Listen to this. When you asked us to remove high fructose corn syrup from Yoplait Original and Light, we were like sure, no problem. And you were like thanks. But what about thick and creamy and whips and we were like done and done Now it's out of everything you'll play maker and you were all young And we're like is it just us or is this been a really good conversation? You were like I would talk but my mouth is full of yogurt You'll play it is so good You had me at thick and creamy

1:33:45 So, you know that was what the actress that was on Friends and she's very... Yeah, thick and creamy. Yeah, she's going on. But she's expensive. Yeah. The commercial is well structured and the visuals show the yogurt and it says no HFC, no high fructose, no, no, no. And I first said, well, this is a good step in the right direction. Then I realized that I'm watching obviously sugar industry finally got their act together. Yeah, they got the right people, they're getting the right message out and they use sexual overtones. It's perfect. Yeah, there's tons of it. You've got the kind of that sound like she's got the dick in her mouth. Yeah, the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

1:34:39 Yeah, I guess. That's probably one way of describing it. But that commercial is a work of art in terms of propaganda. Well, that's what it is. It's all propaganda, but that's okay. Lisa Kudrow. Yeah. She's funny. I like her. Yeah, and she's the one who can pull off the mumbling sound while she's talking. And I don't think people understand that the sex thing is huge in these commercials. And I mean, the way it's thick and creamy. It's like, yeah, I want some. I can't talk because my mouth is full. It's full of thick and creamy. Write that down as a potential show title, John. Thick and Creamy.

1:35:21 You know, we're about to get into thanking our producers and something popped up on my screen a couple days ago that I thought would help us. We have new people coming on the show all the time and I wanted to You know, give an example of why we chose for the model that we've chosen, which is the value for value model where you get the show for free, the show is out there, you don't ever have to do anything, you enjoy it, whatever you do, but we will ask you to consider if you are paying for other things in your life that perhaps give you less value, certainly on the entertainment scale and perhaps on the news and information scale.

1:36:02 And we do this because we can't talk the way we talk about things with any type of commercial conflict. It just, it doesn't work. And this is what the mainstream, which is essentially kind of minority media these days, less and less people are, what was it? Bezos bought the Washington Post. I'm like, wow, $250 million and it's 400,000 people subscribed to it. Yeah, that's well. Yes, you know he that's not a lot no, but it's Washington that subscribes to it I want to talk about the Washington Post. I'm just saying that it's yes. It's the minority It makes total sense Washington is the minority of the country and that's that a little that a little thing and you know I want to talk with you about that because you actually wrote a column about it which I think was interesting, but this is

1:36:52 the conflict that is going on right now between NBC News and NBC Entertainment. Have you been following this? No, no, not really. So NBC News... so there's a couple of Hillary series and documentaries coming out. Oh yeah, yeah, this. This is great. So NBC Entertainment, who can't buy a hit, Is coming out with a I think it's a series a miniseries or a series about Hillary Clinton and NBC News of course is conflicted about this, but here is this this has so many layers to it It's just you know two minutes a figure. We just listen to it so you can hear

1:37:31 the dissatisfaction internally, how you're being deprived of information because of worthless chewing gum crap that has to be put on instead of information, where the real money is in the broadcast industry. And it's funny because this is Chuck Todd of NBC News on MSNBC with the morning jerk off show and they're complaining about NBC. The whole thing, many, many layers of wrong. I love how someone is so in touch he actually says Doogie Howser.

1:38:25 Which I don't think has been on television for 15 years. This is how in touch these people are. At least. is bad. It's never great. It's either okay or really bad. I can't believe we're airing our corporate dirty laundry. That's the way business works. Let me just say though, the thing is the fact that Nicole who comes here and is a good bit and that you've worked for other networks asked me before, hey is there a real division makes you realize that people really don't understand that as Chuck as you just said that's right like like news hates entertainment and entertainment hates news and this is the joke that you know the thing that is not discussed here is that news promotes the entertainment by design because that's the only way they can suck up to these guys to keep doing news shows is by promoting the stupid entertainment division. What?

1:39:25 I was going to say, in fact, we have even on local channels, but generally on national and on 60 Minutes, for example, you'll see a lot of this. They'll be promoting a Viacom star and they'll have them on and do a great in-depth thing because Viacom, you know, is related. Right, but on local channels says all who's gonna be on Letterman tonight. He's gonna gee let me know what's J Lo or what's Lindsay Lohan I was just pondering who's who's Jay gonna have on tonight? Anytime you know we take a precious time that they could sell ads you know promoting America's Got Talent So and here the disdain they have for for shows that are actually making money, but the notice near he said that way Hey, actually, please NBC Entertainment. Can you please make some money? Oh No, you didn't just make fun of the boss Oh

1:40:22 You also have to understand what they just said there. Thank God for all the cable channels. The reason they say that is because these productions, which NBC can't buy a hit with, would cost too much money if they didn't have these secondary markets where they can have reruns going forever on Bravo and all these other chan... TNT. That's somebody who's well informed about sort of the machinations of how the media works. This is why this miniseries is a total nightmare for NBC News because it doesn't, you know, we know there's this giant

1:41:04 firewall we know we have nothing to do with it we know that we'd love probably to be as critical or whatever is going to be if it comes out but there's nothing we can do about it and we're gonna all only all of the negative whether it's a negative because you know the clinton people are upset that it's too tough on them or negative because the republicans think it's this glorification of her or no matter what only we're gonna own it because people are gonna see the peacock and they see nbc and they see a bc news Well, they can't be that separate. So you get the negative and they get the cash? Correct. I've been in a lot of deals like that. I'd like to be on the other side of that deal. And there you have it. They all really want to be in show business where the real money is. That's a good kicker. The subtle but little point made at the end. Yeah, I'd rather be over there with the pretty girls. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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1:44:20 Eventually you do just get jingles on this show. We hope to make it an all jingle show. Imagine an all jingle donation segment where it's just one after another. Yeah that would be nice. He wanted to donate in the day itself. We squeezed him into today's spreadsheet and he says happy anniversary. Nietzsche of Anatolia from Russia 8888 along with my congratulations to John and Mimi I'd like to remind everybody that five years ago at midnight of 8 8 8 0 8 2008 Georgia led by crazy Thai eating maniac and bush puppet

1:45:02 Saksvili opened MRL fire on the capital of South Ossetia and started a tank assault on the city killing hundreds of Ossetian civilians and 10 Russian peacekeepers. Russia's military answer was treated by Western media as unprovoked aggression and only Only no agenda was bang on from the start. That's right. Albeit a late start. But that's still in the lexicon. Everyone will say, oh man, Russia attacked Georgia. No, Georgia attacked Russia and it's been admitted, but no one remembers it that way. Right. Well, we have one Russian who's donated to the anniversary amount because he remembers that this is a show is like that. We have a lot of stuff that we've brought up. Of course, like the forced landing, which I have a little clip of another version. Apparently, Glenn Greenwald has kind of changed the way structures is wording because of that. Oh, really?

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1:47:38 And that concludes our 88 88 segment I will point out that 88 88 also if you send so you have 73s Which is you know, hey, you see it nice to meet you But 88 is hugs and kisses John in case you didn't know that's also kind of a nice extra bonus to the meme hugs and kisses and And I would also like to say on behalf of the the curry family and a happy anniversary to you and Mimi Well, thank you very much, but I'm not giving you any $88. I Now I thought one of these guys had actually come with 88 and I'm looking for it on here. I'll have to thank him later but one of the donors came with, I thought it was 8800 before the mailing request went out. He was actually the first one and I'm gonna have to now dig his email up. Paul Groves in Wangaretta, Victoria Australia 7451.

1:48:33 John Karma worked the last time I got an interview even after Adam stepped on John. Oh who is about to read my note luckily John managed to slip in my karma request by the time this is read but be more hours away from having said interview to be a job karma top-off please could you give a job job karma I guess I'll give him a top-up you're in charge of the top off okay that's your job I'm not talking hey you've got karma and ladies gentlemen 69 6969 is still alive and we're in a disdain people gave it out here including again Michael Miller who sent to 6969 and over here from Timberland fearful that we're going to lose the

1:49:17 this thread but not the case. So Michael Miller in Tiburon, Jennifer Harley in Waterloo, Ontario with a great birthday call out coming. Paul Vela in Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire. Sure, sure, Buckinghamshire. Buckinghamshire, Buckinghamshire, Buckinghamshire, Buckinghamshire, UK. Kristen Drinzek in Palmer, Alaska. Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho, New Mexico. RM Donovan in Leiden, no comment. John Haller in Missoula, Montana. He says, any show that mentions H.V. Colton Bourne deserves my support.

1:50:06 And then there's Dan Sorkin. Baroness Tanya of Manhattan comes in with 6969 saying, she sent me a hand, she wrote a check. Longhand, longhand note from the Baroness, I presume? Yes. She says after leaving, after hearing Her H's look like L's. How much PayPal takes off the top of the donation? I am switching to checks. Nice. I'm planning to set up a monthly check payment from my bank. No postage, no fees, and it's just as easy as PayPal. All the best to the best podcasts in the universe. By the way, I can

1:50:43 Right in cursive, but I won't subject you to that. What is this then? Hey, you know that I was really only I was reading about this that You know if you write notes in longhand, it's very difficult the machines can't really Optical character recognition doesn't work very well on longhand certainly Christ's especially that one that they use on your on your mail your mail, but yeah, so you want to do your address and all block letters and But you want to write all your notes in longhand. I think that we need to be returning back to the days of longhand and Morse code. It essentially looks like code to the machine. It does! It's like, oh, I don't know what this is. It's encrypted! It's encrypted! I don't know if we can break the algorithm. Matthew Roman in Huntersville, North Carolina, 69-69. And finally, Edward Hines in Jacksonville, Florida. And that wraps it up. 69! 69, dude! That's good. Keep it going, people.

1:51:43 Few others, we got 5533 from Nathan Craddock in Los Angeles. He had his PayPal weekly subscription cancelled. This keeps happening. And it's bad enough that the subscription gets cancelled but then they send you a note saying, no agenda show. Those guys don't want your money. It's no good. We've cancelled your subscription. Pretty much what it says. And apparently this Nathan guy loves it when I refer to Rex. The fantastic coding, or actually scripting more of the code. I think I've referred to Rex more than you have, but okay. You wrote the book, that's the difference. Jonathan Rose, double nickels on the dime from Netanya Israel. He says it's the latest stipend from the Mossad for my propagation of the Jewish agenda. Good work!

1:52:35 He says, sorry it's only a pittance but of course we Jews are cheap. Jay Collin Beck in Edmonton, Alberta, another double nickels on the dime and he needs some, we'll give some karma to him at the end for house relocation. And finally $50 each from Daniel Eber, Christopher Walker, John Anderson Lafayette, Louisiana, Paul Levy in Grinnelly, Iowa. Let me slide this up a little bit. Patrick Macom or Macom in Spartanburg, South Carolina and finally Mac Harbor LLC in Winnipeg, Manitoba home of the Jets and finally Sir Alan Bean again over here in Oakland. He's a monthly regular. I got to thank them and everybody else who helped us out. There's a bunch of people with all kinds of comments here.

1:53:29 I got a note from the back office about a special request from Jennifer Harley, who was one of our 6969 swells enough donors. I'd really appreciate it if you could give a shout out to my husband's xenon. He'd also love it if you called him a real stand-up shittison or something similar including the word shittison That's the most important thing. He listens to you religiously and this was the best birthday present I could think of for him. He'll be so happy. He might even do a dance. Yeah, it's always lovely when when when spouses Hand in a donation for for their loved one. Yeah, I think it's fantastic and I bet he is a real stand-up shittison. I

1:54:14 I don't know what kind of a toilet you'd use. Thick and creamy. She said thick and creamy, didn't she? No, that was the other girl. No, I know, but the Lisa girl. Yeah, no, Lisa said thick and creamy. Thick and creamy. We have a show twice a week and we don't have a network. We do have a back office consisting of family members of John. Which is fine. It's fine. It's a low budget operation, we do our best. We do our best and I think that we deliver you value and if you don't think so, fine, just enjoy for free and if you do then help support us. You can do that by going to devorac.org. It's interesting, the back office has Jennifer Harley's note in the birthday list as well.

1:55:17 So, hey, Zenon, you're a real stand-up citizen. And Sir Bernie Adema, belated shout-out to his son John, who celebrated on August 5th. Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. Now we have some title changes. Let's see, we've got Thomas Pouillard. Uh, who becomes Baron Thomas of Bahrain. The Baron of Bahrain! And he can divvy that up however he wants to. And we've got two knightings which you're going to take care of. So, uh, you grab your blade there, John. Yep, got it. Perfect.

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1:56:57 Which is dumb. We could have gotten one dollar from everybody. For our first anniversary. One. Hell yeah. That's something. We almost, let's see, August, I think August 20th. Is it 20th? Hold on a second. What is the... I think it was the 20th. It was on a show day that I quit smoking, that we both quit smoking. It's almost been a year. You got married the day you quit smoking? No, our wedding gift to each other was that we would quit smoking. Oh. The 25th. No regifting. No trade-ins. Oh, and I also must give karma to everybody who requested it. You've got karma. Perfect. Yeah, August 25th is our one year no smoking anniversary. I think that's pretty good. I'm pretty proud. Yeah, well you should be. Hopefully you can just

1:57:52 We am going back smoke again going back to the Netherlands and no time everyone's smoking around there Oh, I forgot to mention that as Denmark. I forgot to mention something when we arrived Was it yesterday day before yesterday last Tuesday night, whatever I from Atlanta in Austin. As we're coming in to land, I see the emergency crash vehicles with their lights somewhere off the, you know, like on the apron or whatever, off the runway. And I'm not going to go, you know... This is in Hartsfield. No, this is at Bergstrom, Austin. So we're landing in Austin. And upon approach, I look over because I'm always, you know, look, I'm a pilot, so I'm looking at what's going on. I see the crash vehicles. I'm like,

1:58:38 Well that's weird that they've got their lights flashing. I'm like hmmm. So there's a couple of possibilities. One is we're on fire and no one has told us. That's very possible. Look, is there any foam on the runway? No, I don't see any foam. And, you know, perfect landing, everything's fine. And then the captain comes on the horn and he says, you know, ladies and gentlemen, as we're taxiing in, when we get to the gate, I'd like you to wait for a moment so the honor guard can get off the plane first who are accompanying a fallen soldier who we transported back home to Austin. And this is really weird, you know, because you're happy to be home and then all of a sudden this, and the whole plane goes.

1:59:18 Like complete silence, you know, I was like, wow. So, you know, ding. We're at the gate and then everyone waits, but maybe five minutes, right? And then everyone's getting up because I guess the guy, remember we got the first class upgrade, so I couldn't see what was going on behind us, but right underneath my window. Well, Dave, wait, hold on a second. Didn't the honor guard, weren't they on the plane getting, oh there was a coffin in the plane but no honor guard on the plane. The honor guard was outside so they had to get the coffin out. So you have the guys who accompany the coffin on the plane. Did they get off? Let me backtrack for a second. So as we land, now we're taxiing towards the gate, I see what the crash vehicles are. They've got the honor guard, they've got the hearse, they've got everything.

2:00:11 two fire trucks and they start like a bridge of water so the plane goes underneath like an arc of water which kind of gave me goosebumps actually. You know that was kind of the honoring the fall. That was cool. Yeah, it was like wow, you know everyone was really quiet. So then yeah, so the guys who were the honor guard who accompanied the coffin, they got off first and everyone's like getting off and right underneath my window I see the cargo door open and I'm and I actually put a picture on my blog if you go to blog.curry.com you can see it right there. I took a number of pictures because

2:00:50 Because I witnessed this entire scene taking place, it was chilling, John. I mean, so I see the coffin coming out, I see the honor guard coming up, I see the family, I see maybe wife or sister, you know, falling to the ground, collapsing in grief. Just grief, you know, and it was it was really Really hurt. It was hurtful. I couldn't get up I could not I felt it would be wrong to not wait and until this You know coffin the soldier was in the hearse and gone I couldn't do it and there were maybe three or four other people in the whole plane and but no also No one said hey, you got to get off. You know, that was kind of was nice. I'm just sitting there and

2:01:35 in awe. Hey, get out! Don't watch that. But you know it was really, it touched me. Sorry. Go ahead. You posted a picture that never gets posted. This is the point. It's a good picture. I would advise people to go to blog.currie.com because this is the picture that the mainstream media never won't post. Nope. They won't put it aside now. You know, we're not gonna do it's not on television They never show this and you know And then I went and I and I do this from time to time and you look it up there's like this, you know this past week another eight Servicemen and women died you don't hear about it

2:02:14 You know, they never talk about it. And during the Vietnam War, this was, it was the, every night they showed the flag draped coffins and that really changes your perception, you know, it really makes you think about what's going on. In fact, we went to You don't need to see this boy. Yeah, what they've collectively decided that right? I mean we've talked about this This was these wars have not been televised. You don't see the death and destruction Right. We went to Christina, my daughter. That's by the way, this is on purpose because they know it would disgust the public and they get pissed and they'd vote these idiots out of office but they won't but the media plays the game and that's the end of it so these guys stay. Exactly. That picture taken with an iPhone 5 by the way, not bad, huh? No, because well you're shooting it through a piece of crap plastic and I still think it's actually a good picture.

2:03:15 It's got a nice composition. It's really, it's a great shot. It's a good picture. And you see off to the right there's the family. I mean, I have, I didn't post the shots, but the woman was just, she's collapsed, she's crying, she's sobbing on the ground. You know, and you don't know the story, you know, you don't know exactly who's who, but you do know the story. You know, that's kind of it. You do know the story. And then I tried to Google for, I want to know who is this kid. You can't even find a single story about a soldier coming home to Austin. Nothing. Flabbergasting to me. Welcome.

2:03:56 We were at this, so Christina and her girlfriend said, oh, we want to hang out with you guys. Let's go and let's do something fun. Let's go to a red carpet premiere of a movie in Amsterdam. And it'll be cool. We'll look like a family unit, which of course, we're an odd bunch together. But it'll be fun. And we'll go see a movie. And we'll have dinner afterwards. And we'll hang out. So they had kind of put together this whole afternoon, night. And we go to see, so we go do the red carpet premiere in Amsterdam of The Lone Ranger. Considered by most to be one of the worst movies ever made. No, no, it is not the worst movie ever made. It is the biggest piece of crap worst movie ever made. And it takes, it drags on forever.

2:04:39 But we do the red carpet and then what happens is you stand there for pictures and video and then we go in and then there's always a couple of reporters, so-called reporters. And one of them said, they kind of accost you and it's part of the deal, you kind of got to talk to him for a minute. He said, Hey, you know, we have this thing, we're doing like, if you were Miss Universe, what would you want for the world? You're asking me this question? And just before I knew it, and this is Holland, you know, they haven't, the last time, they think I'm still a disc jockey, you know, at MTV. I don't know where I've been, what I've done. They have no clue. They really have no clue. And I say, well, you know, I would really like for us to stop dropping bombs from drones on brown people who live in the sand. And I'd like for the brown people to tell their leaders to stop trying to kill us over here.

2:05:40 And you could just see the guy like, what? It just doesn't compute, you know? That ain't gonna be used. Who's that guy? Well, this is another thing. So, what you doing these days? How do you make money? Well, I carry Mickey's bag and I set up her lights and stuff. And you're absolutely right. Nowhere is there any... Did he say noagendashow.com? Do you think that... You should have given him a disc. Mickey, Mickey promoted No Agenda. Big time she got it in a big newspaper, but they don't care all they care about is nobody's doing their job When you guys gonna have kids that's the only thing they care about so you're gonna have a kid you're gonna have kids you yeah, it's like this. It's it's really So stupid and then my daughter a blesser she jumps is no no they're waiting for the grandkids me and my girlfriend are gonna make them How you gonna do that

2:06:41 And her girlfriend is like, oh, don't you see my cock hanging right here? It's very funny. That was on, they did broadcast that actually. That was pretty funny. No. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've done Holland. You got left on the cutting room floor. I'm out. I'm just set dressing. Oh yeah, if you're going to go get a lecture about drones. They don't want to hear me. Oh, this is the greatest movie I've ever seen I got a couple funny things now. We got some time here. We got about 20 minutes I got some I think some pretty good clips Jen Psaki who by the way? She is the new spokeshold the red soulless devil the ginger of the State Department who has taken over for Vicki Newland who now is who has Slept her way to the top. I'll say it. I

2:07:32 Jen Psaki, by the way, appears quite often in the This Town book about Washington. She's quite a mover and a shaker. Now you'll recall that she's the most condescending person I've ever seen in this job. Well, she and our friend Matt from Reuters have been going back and forth about the status of Egypt because as we know by law in the United States by US code if If this is a coup if the arm if this has been a a forceful regime change by the military Then all foreign aid must stop by law. So of course, we don't whatever we do. We don't want to call it a coup. I

2:08:19 And Matt is just... this guy, he's gonna get some Boston breaks one of these days because he is just going at her and I think he finally got her a little bit flustered, although not really because at the end of the day she just will stand there with a stone-cold face and just not call it what it is. But listen to this exchange which I found to be quite entertaining. First question about Senator McCain's comments. You said our position has not changed, as you just did with Morsi. On McCain's comments, though, our position has not changed. Then you said the U.S. government has stated what our position is. Could you remind us all what your position actually is? Because as I recall, your position was that you don't have a position.

2:09:05 And that's not quite – is that correct? Matt, I think you know our position, which is that – Tell me. There was a determination made that we need to – not need to make a designation. So your position is that you do not have a position? Our position is that we do not need to make a designation. Correct? Mm-hmm. Oh, go ahead, Nicolas. Yeah. Does Deputy Secretary Burns plan to meet with President Morsi? We talked about it yesterday. MS. PSAKI I don't have any other plans for that on his schedule. We have not made a determination. But don't, you go and say our position has not changed but you don't have a position. You don't have a position that could have changed. A position means taking a side or taking a stance or making a determination and since you didn't do that, you do not by definition have a position.

2:10:02 Correct? I would disagree with you Matt. You have a position on whether what happened in Egypt was a coup? We have determined that we do not need to make a determination. Isn't that the same as not having a position? We have determined we don't have to make a determination. Where is the rest of the media people? How can we be a free country if this is just getting by? If this is just... just let it go. We... it doesn't matter. We have made a determination. We don't need to make a determination. Hey, Matt! Shut up, slave! Shut up! I got some... I got something that... Go ahead. I got some... I got some... I think I have a good... I have two things. And then I'll let you close it out. I've got a Glenn... I've got a Glenn Greenwald clip which is the gaffe of the week on... Where did you... where was this extracted? Democracy Now.

2:11:01 Are you ready? Oh okay, well I have a couple of Democracy Now! ones too but we'll see what you have. By the way, how 80s is that music for Democracy Now? Oh, 70s almost. And then just back announcing these songs. Oh, it was Green Green Grass by the Greengrassers, the Light Lighters and the, you know, just give me a break. Tony Orlando and Don. Tony Orlando and Don with Tie Yellow Ribbon round the old oak tree. Hello everybody, welcome to Democracy Now!

2:11:37 Glenn Greenwald, your response and what happens now? Of course I spoke to him before temporary asylum was granted by Russia, but of course it is temporary. And what is Edward Snowden saying to you about what his plans are now? Is this the period where he's continuing to push for asylum or will he make his home in Russia? But he really is considered to be quite a hero. I mean, he's a hero here. He's a hero in Asia. He's now a hero in Russia, by all accounts. I think what you see is populations around the world really grateful to be able to have this information. As far as Mr. Snowden's spying plans are concerned, asylum plans are concerned. Did you hear it? What was the gaffe? I'll let you hear it again.

2:12:24 I mean he's a hero here, he's a hero in Asia, he's now a hero in Russia by all accounts. I think what you see is populations around the world really grateful to be able to have this information. Okay, here it comes. As far as Mr. Snowden's spying plans are concerned, asylum plans are concerned. As far as Mr. Snowden's spying plans, uh uh uh uh, asylum plans. Flying, flying plans? Spying, spying. Spying plans, oh, oh I missed that. Maybe Mr. Snowden is a double agent. We suggested this right off the bat. But here's the gaffe. I mean he's in the Red Book. As far as his spying plans, I mean his asylum plans, that's a far cry from asylum to spying. Where does he come up with spying? It's on his brain. That's why he said it. Exactly. A human being cannot

2:13:15 tell you must tell the truth at all times so they always buy gaps if necessary so well I mean that one of the thesis is was you just put this guy in such a situation that there's no way that you can You gotta place him someplace so he can make some, because he can hack computers apparently. He's a genius at it according to his father. So he can get into Russia, get a job at the Russian Facebook and the next thing you know he's got a bunch of stuff and then he's out and he's a hero. But then they can't do that either because you can't announce your, you know, I don't know how they're going to do this but I did get a new piece of information which I thought was interesting and I got some green wall clips too that I thought were very good. They're a little long.

2:13:59 But I've got this clip of this, and unfortunately the guy's name is on the back of an envelope downstairs so I can't tell you who it is, but he's one of these analysts that's got a lot of Russian background and he's discussing the Snowden information with the backdrop of Obama bailing out of the meeting that they were going to have even though... you know, the meeting wasn't going to be productive anyway and he kind of agrees with that. But this is the analysis of Obama-Putin with new information. There's a little tidbit in here that nobody knew about. President Obama mishandled the situation with Putin over Snowden. Explain what you mean by that and is that how Russian officials that you've talked to felt?

2:14:41 Snowden came to Russia not at the invitation of the Russian government. Actually, from what I was told, and it was confirmed to me by US officials, that the US government had informed the Russians about Snowden being on a plane from Hong Kong to Moscow only when the plane had already left Hong Kong. So, Snowden was travelling to Cuba. he was supposed to board a plane to Cuba, a Russian plane, next day. Then the US government goes to the Cubans and despite a rather difficult US-Cuban relationship, the Cubans decided to accommodate the United States and not to allow Snowden to go via Cuba. So here is Snowden at the Russian airport.

2:15:32 He's there for less than six hours and the Secretary of State already warns Putin about consequences. And the State Department already expresses strong concern. And Senator Schumer warns Putin about terrible implications for the relationship and says that Putin put a knife in the American back. So this is about Cuba? Well, this seems a little sketchy to me, but why didn't Snowden take the tree? He had it all lined up. He could either go to Ecuador or Venezuela with a flight through Cuba. Now, according to this guy, the United States, when we don't even have any relations with Cuba, we supposedly hate them and we have all these sanctions, and I don't know if we can do any more sanctions. I guess we got a hold of somebody who said,

2:16:21 You're not going to let that Snowden guy land in Cuba. You're turning him over to us or something. Or they say you better just refuse the flight. Don't let Snowden into Cuba so he can't catch that flight to Venezuela. Now I didn't know any of this but it does explain why he didn't take the flight the next day and a bunch of journalists were stuck on it. It was never explained. As an addition to that, on Saturday A surface combat squadron of the Russian Navy arrived in Cuba for the first time in four years. Friendly visit, they called it. They had the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moscow, and the large anti-submarine ship Vice Admiral Kulakov of the Northern Fleet and a number of supply and service ships. That's kind of close. Yeah, something is up. All right, so...

2:17:14 I've got three green wall clips that are a little lengthy, one of them is really long. But I thought it was such a great rant that I have it, we can either play at the end or maybe after the show closes, it's long enough that it'd be a show close, we don't need to talk about it. But I got a couple things here that are interesting which is the... Greenwald this is where he rephrases the force you know the fall the plane from Bolivia was forced down at which we've debunked that do we want actual cockpit chatter do we want to play that again or People do I think that we played it twice. I don't think we need to play it again because I just want to point out that

2:17:53 The wording on the phrasing of the thing being forced down is interesting. Let me just reiterate then quickly, we have the cockpit recording of the FAB 0001, I think it is, which is the Bolivian president's plane asking to land in Austria, saying that they have some fuel gauge malfunction, they want to check it out. There was no forced landing. They requested to land under a bogus, mind you, that's a very typical pilot trick is to say someone's sick, they're puking. You do that on a small plane. Or we have something, you can't declare an emergency, but we have something that's a little irritating, like we're not so sure about the fuel gauge. So we just want to go down and check it out. That is the truth. There was no forced landing. No one has admitted this as far as I know. Right. We're the only ones that discuss this.

2:18:50 So anyway, and we have the evidence and we can play the clip again. We played it a couple times. We'll play it again in the future I'm sure. But so he changes his wording but the funny thing is when it goes when they kick it back to Amy Goodman I'm not sure I have the whole thing she's back on the old script and it's actually kind of funny. So wait, so if you listen to him. Because Greenwald has been talking, he's been a big propagator of this lie about the Bolivian aircraft being forced down. He has talked about this quite a bit. Right, now he has changed now, because he knows this is bogus, so he's changed the wording so it's all now instead of the forced landing it's all weasel words. And when you hear it you go, you roll your eyes even though Amy Goodman's still on the old meme. Yeah.

2:19:36 I think one of the things that the United States has done is really kind of show the world what its character is over the last two months through its really extreme and radical behavior. I mean, I can tell you here in Latin America, it was really event shifting. It was when they caused the plane of Ivan Morales to be downed in Austria by blocking airspace rights over their European allies. I think the final point to note about this is everyone in the world knows, probably except for Americans, that the United States routinely refuses to extradite all sorts of people accused of horrible crimes. I mean, in Bolivia, the ex-president who's accused of all sorts of war crimes and was protected and propped

2:20:13 up by the CIA is living comfortably in the United States, which refuses to turn him over. And that's been true of other Latin Americans who have been accused of serious crimes of terrorism. So I think when the United States pretends to be outraged that they don't get what they want in extradition, everyone in the world knows that they frequently do the same thing in much more extreme cases. I think it's actually his, I don't know, to say the plane was down. That's almost like being shot down. It's worse. That's not, he's making it worse. It's been downed by our friends. That's right, I called up my friends in Europe and said, DONUT PLANE! Yeah, well, Matt, I think, but he has changed it. No forced landing, it's now just, you know, kind of, you know, he doesn't... When is Greenwald gonna stop?

2:20:57 I don't know, but this one here I got here, the analysis of Obama-Putin with, I'm sorry, the best Greenwald rant ever. The guy, the two guys that are the head of the Intelligence Committee, the Republican and the Democrat, the Democrat guy's a total douchebag. And he calls him out here, and I think this is really one of the most important things you can listen to. This is the best rant as it relates to this information. And we will continue to do that because what we're trying to do now is to get the American public to know more about what's going on, that NSA is following the law, and that we have checks and balances. We have the courts, we have both the Senate and House Intelligence Committee, we have Justice Department, we have checks and balances here to make sure that NSA does not

2:21:41 violate the law in what they're doing. And you know, since these two programs have come into effect, especially the metadata, there's not been one incident of any member of the NSA breaking any law whatsoever. But we can do better. I have to educate my caucus more, the Democratic caucus, and we're trying to declassify as much as we can. That's Democratic Congressmember Dutch Ruppersberger. Glenn Greenwald, your response. I hope Dutch Ruppersberger takes a much more prominent role in the political debate because he's basically the embodiment of the rotted soul that has become the Democratic Party. Not only does his district encompass Fort Meade, which is the headquarters of the NSA, which explains in part why he is the stalwart, steadfast NSA loyalist.

2:22:24 but he is almost drowning in cash from the defense and intelligence industries. He's the second leading recipient in the entire United States House of Representatives of money from those industries and he then gets placed on the very committee that the church committee created in the mid-1970s to exercise oversight over the agency and the community that basically ensures that his coffers are stuffed full of cash. So of course he becomes the leading spokesperson for that agency and then goes around defending it and saying they've done nothing wrong and they're vital and indispensable.

2:23:00 to our national security. That's the leading Democrat on that committee. But the thing that he was asked was about in terms of members of Congress being blocked from information, basic information, isn't my claim. Members of Congress came to me with this grievance. and asked me to write about it and they gave me correspondence between themselves and the intelligence committee and what they were asking for was not very sensitive information, they were asking for the most basic things, things they read about in media accounts such as the ruling by the FISA court in 2011 that much of what the NSA has been doing, spying on Americans domestically is a violation of the Constitution and the law

2:23:38 There really is, Amy, an 85-page, 86-page ruling issued by the FISA court that says the government has been systematically breaking the law and violating the Fourth Amendment and how it spies on us. And not only can we not see that ruling, because it remains a secret at the insistence of the Obama administration, even our elected representatives in Congress who are told are exercising robust oversight are blocked from seeing it and that's the correspondence that we published that was given to me by various House members. So yeah, they do get meetings with General Alexander where they get to raise their hand and ask questions and General Alexander says we're violating, we're not violating the law and we are strictly adhering to what our guidelines are. He can say whatever he wants. They want to get the actual documents. That's how you exercise oversight and they're being denied it about the most basic information about both the NSA and the FISA court.

2:24:26 Yeah, I have a similar clip which I won't play about that last part about this report which now Greenwald The difference in the clip I had in yours is that he now he says is 84 85 pages This of course is the document that I'm just salivating I'm dying to get my hands on and I think I have I think I have a piece of the puzzle as you know I've been watching this this guy this English and who was the second in command under Kaiser Alexander. Yeah, slick English. Yeah, this is the guy who our insiders are telling us will become the replacement for Janet Napolitano at DHS. No one is talking about the guy as being the replacement, but our insiders, who I trust,

2:25:10 Are saying that he is teed up and he's got he's very very well connected He also he's got the look, you know kind of nondescript douchebag spook He's got the voice and he said something on June 8th I believe when he was asked which gives away part of I think how they're how they're circumventing the law So let me just for the record state Is NSA spying today or have you spied on American citizens? We do not target U.S. persons anywhere in the world without a specific court warrant. And does the NSA listen to the phone calls of American citizens?

2:25:52 We do not target or listen to the telephone calls of US persons under that targeting without a specific court warrant. Does the NSA read the emails of American citizens? Same answer, ma'am. Does the NSA read the text messages of American citizens? Again, we do not target the content of US person communications without a specific warrant anywhere on the Earth. Aha! But that could be from space. Why would he say anywhere on the earth? He didn't say anywhere on earth. He said anywhere on the earth. So you're saying, you're saying by implication that he's referring to pulling down all the communications that runs through the satellite systems. Yep.

2:26:41 That's a stretch, but I like it. Well, we'll see because this document this this FISA court document Will it will surface eventually it's out. Oh, yeah, so someone has known it's it's unless they they're Nick They're probably trying to destroy all copies As we speak as we speak, but won't happen. There's one more thing that I got out of Greenwald in this long thing it's not it's another longish clip, but I didn't know, you know, I think we knew this but we didn't think about it. But I think Greenwald brings up a topic which calls out Wyden and these other guys who are always like acting like they're trying to help the public. And he mentioned something and I, you know, that needs to be reminded. This is Greenwald. Senators can say what they want on the floor of Congress that they can say, they can tell the biggest secrets, they can say whatever because they're immune.

2:27:31 And play this clip. Let me ask you something. The former Alaska Senator Mike Revell, who is the one who got the Pentagon Papers put into the congressional record and then had them published by Beacon Press, the whole thousands of pages. He said that the senators who have been really sounding the alarms, people like Senator Udall, Senator Wyden, of course, the ones who have been warning Americans in sort of cryptic ways, saying, you've got to find out about this, could actually go much further now that so much has been released by you and even the Obama administration. Right, well, there was an article in Foreign Policy magazine over the weekend by the Yale Law professor Bruce Ackerman that makes the same point. Remember, United States senators have full constitutional immunity against prosecution for anything that they say on the floor of the Senate. And Daniel Osberg, when he was trying to get people to read the Pentagon Papers, actually wanted to get Mike Griddell and other senators to go to the floor of the Senate and read the Pentagon Papers because they would have been immune from prosecution.

2:26:41 That's a stretch, but I like it. Well, we'll see because this document this this FISA court document Will it will surface eventually it's out. Oh, yeah, so someone has known it's it's unless they they're Nick They're probably trying to destroy all copies As we speak as we speak, but won't happen. There's one more thing that I got out of Greenwald in this long thing it's not it's another longish clip, but I didn't know, you know, I think we knew this but we didn't think about it. But I think Greenwald brings up a topic which calls out Wyden and these other guys who are always like acting like they're trying to help the public. And he mentioned something and I, you know, that needs to be reminded. This is Greenwald. Senators can say what they want on the floor of Congress that they can say, they can tell the biggest secrets, they can say whatever because they're immune.

2:27:31 And play this clip. Let me ask you something. The former Alaska Senator Mike Revell, who is the one who got the Pentagon Papers put into the congressional record and then had them published by Beacon Press, the whole thousands of pages. He said that the senators who have been really sounding the alarms, people like Senator Udall, Senator Wyden, of course, the ones who have been warning Americans in sort of cryptic ways, saying, you've got to find out about this, could actually go much further now that so much has been released by you and even the Obama administration. Right, well, there was an article in Foreign Policy magazine over the weekend by the Yale Law professor Bruce Ackerman that makes the same point. Remember, United States senators have full constitutional immunity against prosecution for anything that they say on the floor of the Senate. And Daniel Osberg, when he was trying to get people to read the Pentagon Papers, actually wanted to get Mike Griddell and other senators to go to the floor of the Senate and read the Pentagon Papers because they would have been immune from prosecution.

2:28:30 You know, as much as I like the fact that Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have been sounding the alarms for a couple of years, winking and hinting at Americans, that they would be shocked to learn all the things that the Obama administration is doing in secret. But they didn't have the courage to tell us what those things were that they thought we should know. It took Mr. Snowden to come forward, who doesn't have immunity, and tell us. And interestingly, the very first interview I ever did on ABC about this case, I was followed by Senator Udall, and they asked Senator Udall about Edward Snowden, and the first thing he said was, deplore his leak. So, you know, Mark Udall didn't have the courage to do what Edward Snowden did. He tried to get the country to know there was something going on that we should know, but didn't come forward and say, even though we have this protection, but I think Senator Gravel and Bruce Ackerman are absolutely right. There are all sorts of ways that if Ron Wyden and Mark Udall and others really believe, as they're saying, that there are serious abuses going on in the NSA, they could let us know and could do so with total protection, not

2:29:30 unlike me, who's reporting it and being threatened with imprisonment, or Mr. Snowden, who's been charged for letting us know, they could actually exercise their constitutional prerogatives as a senator and tell us what they think that we ought to know, and they ought to do a lot more of that. You know, my focus is now going to be on Glenn Greenwald. This is... I mean, who died and made him the center of this universe? I mean, well, you know, I'm with you on that one part, but it's because I don't think anybody else wants to do this. No, there's something else going on. There's a reason why he's the center of this. This is just too much.

2:30:12 And that he is going on... It is too much, I agree. He's doing more for... I mean, how can the Guardian even put up with this? He's building Glenn Greenwald the brand, I guess. Oh yeah. And it's just one thing after another. This guy... I don't know. It's worrisome. I would you be stunned if you turn out to be a CIA operative or something well Stop this NSA crap from going on because maybe that other agency doesn't care much for his or get followed and listen to to they don't like six mi6 I would say more someone pointed out to me the other day that if you look at six is possible Well that the Guardian is British intelligence. Come on

2:30:59 Yeah. Someone pointed out to me that if you look at the ratio of Democrats to Republicans in the agencies, CIA is predominantly Republican, NSA predominantly Democrat. Thought that to be an interesting observation get that one one of our producers mailed mailed that to me I should pull it up, but I was like that's yeah, there's something I got I you know I didn't verify You know I didn't do the research on on all the names from like that could there could be something to it You know and we know that there we have always

2:31:37 Suppose that there's some kind of warring, you know, factions here between the agencies, but for it to actually be Republican-Democrat parties, interesting. I like that. That's a new dimension. And we know that Greenwald is, you know, harping on the Democrats, so that would kind of be where you get your CIA slash MI6 thing from, so I don't know. I don't know. But he is out there way too much. Don't we too much wait. He's available for his available for home consulting all the sitting by the phone What's the times is Brazil the different times three hours ahead of us? It's not it's not that it's not not not a big difference And he's and he always is sitting between those two mountains and the green screen in the background You notice that and this one he was in front of a fireplace. Oh really I

2:32:29 Seriously. He needs to do just plain green screen so we can, so the viewer can put him in a different place. You know, that would be fun. I like it. If we could just do our own little things like, where's Glenn today? I want him to be in the Arctic. And there you go. Hi everybody, I'm Glenn Greenwald. I've got more on the FISA Court from the Arctic here where I'm hiding out. You know, it's not just Snowden who needs to come home and face the music. Glenn Greenwald, come to America man, come on. We need you here. We need you in studio. He's definitely well prepared for these things and he's got his good guns out blazing and it is aimed at the Democrats and Obama Oh, yeah, we'll see what happens, but we do want to get a hold of that document. Oh, well, you never know. We might get lucky I have encryption on my email

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