Hookers on Sale

00:00 Unbelievable! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday June 16th 2013 time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination episode 522 This is no agenda. From the Travis Heights hideout in Austin Texas home of the Republic of Texas Biker Rally this weekend In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i am keeping it simple for a reason I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill You really shouldn't take advice from people who write you emails. Because that's what that is about! Yeah, I was wondering if you'd catch it? Some guy wrote in saying, oh Curry has been singing over the jingles and wouldn't give any money And now he stopped doing it but now Dvorak is keeping his openings too short

00:53 Yeah, there's always like it. No we got a better email I'm not gonna read it for the guy said I stopped donating because I don't listen anymore But he said that in like a thousand words Like okay Okay, we're not really asking non-listener actually if you're not listening please support the show So I would like that, but it seems unlikely. So happy Father's Day to you Jean-Claude! Happy Father's Day to you Adam Currie and a happy Father's day all the ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air And all the dames and knights out there who happen to be fathers That's right especially all the dames who happened to be fathers There are few of them I'm sure who listen to this It is very possible and Happy Father's Day in the morning to all of the human resources they're in the chat room NoahDinnerStream.com NoahDinnachat.net It is of course Father's Day by presidential proclamation

01:51 Presidential proclamation. You know the president had this whole Father's Day spiel for his little show and But I but I turned it off after the first 15 seconds, I'm like I get it good enough of course you know how he starts that's obvious and we all know hi everybody Hi everybody This Sunday is Father's Day And so I wanted to take a moment to talk about the most important job many of us will ever have and that's being a dad Today we're blessed to live in a world where technology allows us to connect instantly with just about anyone on the planet Okay, enough said We know that's it. So you can spy on us I Didn't need to listen anymore after that like yeah, okay Yeah, we got it. Oh, I've been something there No There was nothing in there now this is whole take the pledge and be a better dad And you know, I didn't have a dad growing up well neither did I?

02:49 Yeah. He was never there. Busy man, busy man... He was a busy man! Exactly So big news, big news breaking. I just got a memo this morning. Oh hold on a second ladies and gentlemen we've got hot news, big news breaking yes John C. Dvorak what are you learning? Times are tougher Debbie prostitute in Western England oh no has a private flat with other mature ladies she does two or three jobs a day year ago she was doing eight or nine. What? The hookers in England have to lower their prices they're not just businesses down what Yeah, this is in the Economist. Well I mean... Hooker's on sale! Is that the title of the article? Oh but it might be a title for the show. Yeah write it down. We have long since... It says sex doesn't sell. Well now this is very interesting because you have long for many years as long as I've known you always use the Dvorak hooker indicator which says and stay it's kind of like a more actually its Dvoraks law

03:51 As we know, we have Moore's Law. We have Dvorak's law is the worst the economy not only do the hookers get better looking but they get cheaper but not that they have less gigs Well, it would seem to me that if they lowered the price enough they would have the same number of gigs which is a supply and demand in classic sense. I think that's where it came from by the way. Right okay so what you're saying is they are overpriced? Modern economists don't even buy supply and demand anymore So this is where it came from with brokers. Because they are the true free market Yeah well...to a point. Well yeah exactly. This is an indicator supposedly everything

04:35 You heard it in the past. This reflects a sluggish economy, overall consumer spending at the end of 2012 was almost 4% lower than its 27 peak and Vivian an independent escort in the South... Who got to write this? Who do you mean independent escort in the south who probably had put out to get her name in here? Oh okay! To supplement our income as a photographer Says paying for sex is a luxury food is more important the mortgage is more important petrol's more important Especially at these prices. Well, so wait a minute hold on hold on she's offering discounts out of desperation Well down to 30 bucks this make Wow This makes a lot of sense because in times of war I think that's when indeed you know The prostitution industry really kind of falls apart because the soldiers don't pay for they just take it and

05:29 you know, the occupying forces. Right! So I think that this is a new line has been crossed in the UK That's very sad 30 bucks? Depends on your perspective That's like two pounds Oh well... Lots of lines being crossed John I think we should just get into it because i've been doing some research and so I'm getting a little irritated when numbers don't add up You know me the math wizard that I am Oh, well numbers don't add up most of the time with this administration and the government in general. Red line crossed ladies and gentlemen red line has been crossed stand back red line crossed Scott the Obama White House has for the first time declared that the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons to kill opposition fighters

06:22 The US intelligence community says the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad, as I said has used a chemical weapon sarin. Multiple... I have to say that I didn't notice this when I was clipping it but I think the little bird singing happily in the background really adds to the report That's hilarious and by the way I think he said Obama Did he say Obama? Let me roll it back I love the birds. Whenever we do a death and devastation report, we just have little birds tweeting in the background like... The Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons to kill opposition fighters. The US intelligence community says that the Syrian regime of Bashar Al Assad as i said has used the chemical weapon sarin multiple times it says in its war against the syrian rebels

07:06 Now the estimates are between 100 and 150 people have died. That by the way is a 50% discrepancy in the number, I mean if we're just going to look at numbers right? So if someone said well this poll could be off by 1 or 2 percent that's one thing and usually I think it's 3-4 percent these days when they're polling numbers but now they're talking 50% could be off by 50%. The administration said on the plus side obviously this quote crosses clear red lines unquote. Red line! The administration announced it was approving military shipments to the rebels now Scott it's important point out the administration has not described the quantity or the quality of the military support it will provide or when I will arrive

07:49 But it will say that this support is designed to help the rebels defend against quote a repressive regime. One other note, no decision has been made about whether to attempt to impose and no-fly zone. That option though remains on the table. So when did they ever bring up quality as an element? The quantity or quality so these guys get the game, hey these guns they stink! I think the quality means intensity. It would have been a better word because the conversation about light weapons or heavy weapons? Yeah well that's different than quality And i'd like to state just for the record while we're talking about this evil dictator and this horrible regime

08:29 Please make sure you Google the photos of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie as they are hanging out with Bashar al-Assad and his wife. And Angelina Jolie actually kissing the first lady of Syria because she's also a fashion icon, she has grown up in the United Kingdom and Western culture. She is very smoking hot. She was featured in Vogue magazine which I think that destroyed every single copy I just want you to know that, remember all those pictures of Muammar Gaddafi with everybody hanging out in front of his tent? Everyone's like hey, Muammar how are ya doing buddy. Nice hat! Love the guards. Sexy. They're all hanging out going in checking it out and then he was an evil dictator bad regime now

09:17 By the way, the Russians have said this gas thing is bogus. Well let's look at the administration's own words. This is what I do for you which apparently Major... that's the guy's name we just heard on their report. What's his name? Major General? Yeah again, Major. How'd you name your kid Major? You don't! He didn't make that up So this is from the Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications, Ben Rhodes on the Syrian chemical weapons use. And he starts off with the President's direction that his government has been closely monitoring the potential use of chemical weapons within Syria so this is the report that proves that we need to send a weapon of some dubious quality

10:02 To the Syrians following a deliberative review our intelligence community Assesses that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons including the nerve agent sarin on a small scale Against the opposition multiple times in the last year. So okay, that's what we just heard Our intelligence community has high confidence in that assessment Oh wait a minute You don't have like dead bodies to look at Apparently not, given multiple independent streams of information. The intelligence community estimates that 100 to 150 people have died from detected chemical weapons attacks in Syria to date however casualty data is likely incomplete While the lethality of these attacks make up only a small portion of the catastrophic loss of life in Syria which now stands at more than 90 thousand deaths More on that number in a minute

10:57 The use of chemical weapons violates international norms, crosses clear red lines that have existed within the international community for decades. We believe that the Assad regime maintains control of these weapons... ...we have no reliable corroborative reporting to indicate that the opposition in Syria has acquired or used chemical weapons." So far not really convincing proof they're just saying you know we got some information. The body of information used to make this intelligence assessment includes Reporting regarding Syrian officials planning and executing regime chemical weapons attacks. So I guess they were planning it, therefore it's happened. Reporting that includes descriptions of the time location and means of attack... ...and descriptions of physiological symptoms that are consistent with exposure to a chemical weapons agent

11:46 Some open source reports from social media outlets from Syrian opposition groups are also included in our intelligence and other media sources consistent with the information we have obtained regarding chemical weapons use and exposure. They don't have a fricking picture is what they're saying, they got nothing! They got tweets... There's nothing here They have no proof, John. It sounds like no proof to me! Each pos- there's nothing... Just a bunch of tweets. They have open source social media. What is open source? If it's an RSS feed maybe. What is an Open Source Social Media Feed? Twitter isn't open sourced. Chatroom? I don't know. Hey man, I heard that they're using gas. Oh yeah okay. Okay now we uh

12:35 Now this of course explodes, we've got to play McCain because it was just too funny. So I applaud the president's decision and I appreciate it but the President of United States better understand that just supplying weapons is not going to change the equation on the ground at the balance of power These people of the Free Syrian Army need weapons. This by the way is the Al-Qaeda, he's now saying... No it's basically, yeah no essentially it's al Qaeda. These people on the ground, Al-Qaeda. And when they take over the place, you know McCain will be first to say I don't know how this happened! How did this happen? Alright so listen, he wants them to have weapons yes? And heavy weapons Heavy weapons like damn hey Mohammed see these weapon are heavy man

13:22 To counter tanks and aircraft they need a no-fly zone and the and Bashar Assad's air assets have to be taken out in Neutralize we can do that without risking a single American airplane. How do we do that John? Do you know how we do that now, you are of course a defense strategist? No, it was some sort of electronic No, if only it were that cool. No no no no no this is very obvious Do it by cratering the runways with cruise missiles moving the Patriot missiles closer to the border and protecting a safe zone I think the guy's jerking off while he saying this He is totally out of control He's like hot for it We can crater their runways bitches Oh god hold on a second oh yeah ICBMs baby So the Russians are gonna like this alot

14:10 Yeah, well they can organize where they can work where they can coordinate with the civilian side Oh civilians The Syrian National Army And you know they can have a chance of success. Oh yeah all right now before we I just have to get to a point that I want to hear all kinds of stuff now the BBC is Bless their hearts. Of course, they you know the Cameron immediately hopped on the honker there with our president like we're in We're in we're there for ya tell the other chap chop BP and all that yeah, we're ready for it No problem This is a BBC report on the number of deaths now this is very important because just like the administration I went and checked down the numbers because I just don't take these things at face value anymore certainly not from accredited news organizations

14:59 What is the number of deaths according to your sources, John? What have you been learning about the number of deaths in Syria? 90 thousand dead. I've heard the number at ninety thousand plus and as high as 93 thousand. This seems to be a new number? Everybody knows it's a fact! The fighting has long since passed the point where it can unambiguously described as civil war To count the dead, UN took names from seven human rights groups and Syrian government Only those deaths with a full name, date and place were recorded. As the UN says the figures are shocking. 93 thousand people are confirmed dead The real figure could be as high as 130 thousand Out of those that have been killed 6500 were children And 1700 of those are under 10

15:55 On every single day of the past year, more than 160 people were killed in Syria. Okay so they have all these flashy graphics and how many children are dying and it's very impressive stuff And again I just don't take it at face value you know? I want to go read the report so I go to the UN website We had this thing called The Internet which they introduced Which...I don't know if they know that their publishing these documents because I think its kind of damning when you think about it. Now, you already heard in this report a little bit about the sources of this number so but when you watch it you think oh man like that's 93 000 people that's horrendous and and you can just see the bodies almost piled up on top of each other and actually during this report they show videos of dead people everywhere and so you think well they've probably counted that and it sounded like to have some sources uh... So these sources which they call databases

16:52 on the UN report, it turns out to be pretty much websites including the Syria Shahouda website But the funniest source, which is a very important one for them. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights You remember this John? The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights Does that ring a bell? No but it might Yeah this is the guy Rami Abdul Rahman who we have tracked in the past and who has always been... For the past two years he's been the go-to guy for the BBC

17:29 And he's one guy in an apartment in London. He is the guy that has got the webcam? Yeah, he's one guy in an apartment in London This is one of their main sources for this information And so I'm going to read a few paragraphs from the United Nations report which the BBC is now using to claim 93,000 dead in Syria. I am not saying that people aren't dying by the way...I just want you understand how propaganda works. Executive summary! This report presents findings integrated from seven databases built by Syrian human rights monitors

18:06 and one database collected by the Syrian government. The enumeration is not the complete number of conflict-related killings, the enumeration may be a slight overcount... Oh! They're already backpedaling... ...of reported killings while at the same time the enumeration is likely undercounting the true total number So how do they come up with this number John? They have seven sources and this whole... This is a 40 page document which explains the numbers Here it is The true total number of conflict-related killings includes undocumented killings, which we had to estimate using statistical computer modeling. Are you fucking kidding me? This number is based on a computer model?! So the way they do it is they take one day in 2011 where 160 people were killed that they have documented by one of these databases ie websites

19:06 Then they take another day where they have three sources reporting some names and they put this whole thing together. And the computer then spits out the statistical number of people who have died, and they had this 40-page document to back up their statistical models This is insane. That's global warming! It's the same thing, it's the same computers they use to predict... Remember the ash cloud? The volcanic ash cloud was going to ruin airplane engines they grounded all European flights for a week and the skies have never been so clear and blue in history Right this is the Iceland incident Same thing

19:52 And then when it goes into... Well, somebody must be questioning this of course. Are you mad man? You can't be questioning facts! This is not good, you can do this now the only guy now this is where he gets frightening when you have a Bizigno Brzezinski and I agree with him Now you know something's amiss. We are now pointed towards something somewhat similar but more dangerous in Syria. Because Syria is interlocked with Iran, that poses dangers for the global economy that will affect the interests of Japan and of China we should be building an international coalition to impose some sort of a solution

20:46 We should be seriously negotiating with the Chinese and the Russians. Involve the Japanese as well because they're influential." So are the Indians, incidentally, who are dependent on energy? That is the kind of response that might have some effect. Instead, we are essentially engaging in mass propaganda portraying this as a democratic war Who's fighting for democracy? Qatar and Saudi Arabia are fighting for democracy This is a sectarian war waged with great brutality by both sides And I repeat the 93 thousand were killed in a civil war They weren't killed just by the Syrian regime

21:22 There are two sides to that struggle and neither one is waging it in a particular attractive fashion. So he's not being honest either, but at least it's clear that he left kind of on the outside of this somehow as someone has moved ahead of the grand chess game that Przinski has always laid out and I think his Russia connection or something like that he's like, whoa hold on a second you're just doing this big propaganda thing we all know it's about pipelines and energy and turf. And he's turning it into the sectarian bullcrap but I think its of note that for once Brzezinski is kind of speaking some truths

22:04 Well, maybe that's what... Maybe the thing has actually devolved into an actual sectarian war. Hmmmm.... Well I'm sure on the ground sure. Those people shooting each other don't care about the pipelines and they haven't blown any up yet? No no no! They have been propagandized into hating each other which we have to be careful of everywhere, I'd say. Yeah we already had the clips a couple shows ago where the Hezbollah's on one side condemning all the Sunnis calling them worse than Jews Good news! The Department of Homeland Security according to the Federal Register announces that Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano is extending the existing designation for Syria temporary protected status That's the TPS reports you hear about all the time

22:51 TPS means that if you, basically it's an asylum program for another 18 months October 1st 2013 through March 31 2015 and re-designating Syria for TPS for 18 months effective October first. So that would be our date! October firs? 2014? No 2013 so as of October firs then there will be another eighteen months where you can effectively enter the United States as a Syrian national and be granted asylum status Well, we're gonna be seeing a lot of Syrians if they can get over here. Yeah I hope they can who wants to be over there now? It's pretty bad it's lame Of course they won't have to go through the process miss Mickey has gone through no No, B. But maybe she should get on a boat and come in through Syria. They would be easier yeah cheaper oh

23:49 Wow, tell me about this. So let's talk about this you had your grilling by the government Yes cross-examination so did they ask eye colors or anything like that? Well let me tell you how this goes down Give us some background for people who just didn't watch the show As now my wife she has the right to obtain permanent resident status in the United States of Gitmo Nation So they believe you are married. I petitioned, at first I petitioned which means i had to show the documentation If they listen to this show they'd know this to be true Well yeah well that's still their process so we had to petition uh... certain which means i have to say hey she is valid there were married our previous marriages have been dissolved You have to prove all that in paperwork and translations etc

24:40 I have enough funds to support her so she will not be a burden on the state. So there was that and then after you go through that whole process, of course she had to be examined medically to see if she was not disease ridden just dripping with disease. And it's true! You know they wanted to do a vaginal exam on her and she refused? Good. And they went oh okay how crazy is that Yeah, there's a lot of things you can use and turns out they don't care. They don't care that I think they would just it was a fishing expedition as far as i'm concerned And then of course they had to prove that she had her shots That's another rigmarole if you can't prove that You've had your shots Then you can go get your shots again So we had to go through all that

25:28 In the meantime, she also had to travel for her work so she got advanced parole documentation. So before this interview we spoke with our lawyer because you have to have a lawyer I this is where it went wrong in the first place. I thought I could do it myself Stupid citizen yeah no You're not playing the game and so this is a scheme that was not playing the game so we got our lawyer Alan Allen Klein and Alan This is all Alan does And he said, let's talk about the interview before we go for the day before. So we had I think 45 minutes and say okay here is going to down there they're going to it can be all it can go on all kinds of directions

26:12 And what they want to assess is are the two of you really married? Is it for true reasons or are you just scamming the government to get this woman a green card and B, can you really prove that you can sustain her so she will not be a burden on the state. We went through all those scenarios different ways it could go down he said look you would probably in and out five minutes could be anything at certain point I said hey Alan when do we learn to speak Russian I said, what do you mean? He said, well because we're like in Soviet Russia pre the wall coming down. Are you kidding me?! This is 10 times worse! You have no idea what's going on! Ever since we got these two Sennareff brothers who came and blew everything up it has gotten worse

27:01 He's clamped down on everything. And here is a lawyer saying we are on the downside of the slippery slope, is what he said so he probably knows more than he's willing to let on So we are prepared now. We are actually you know, so we're like, huh? You know it's like we're gonna go see the government and And in the morning of Mickey's like should I wear this is yeah That's great. Then of course she changes and how about this I said, yeah, that's great Yeah But I don't want to seem like I'm trying too hard and like okay. So this is the level of Emotional terrorism that isn't oh, yeah No This is like not this is again. We were reading a book in The Garden of the Beasts. Yep

27:40 This is what you would might have been like in the 30s regime mm-hmm of Hitler yes, and so we and I'm a I'm an American citizen And I'm legitimately worried about what clothes to wear so he can impress the Gestapo Yes You don't want it look like you're over trying too hard all these things are very just like why is this happening? And so you know we have to print out depressing by the way. It is so we have to bring all the documentation that all the copies, all the certified copies, all the translations with the certifications of the translations for birth certificate. Now of course everyone has this because she's from a foreign country so it can't just be in the foreign language Maybe Spanish is okay I don't know maybe you don't have to get it translated if its in Spanish but I think you even have to do that

28:26 And you know and all that's a disillusions of previous marriages, and then your 2000 You know your 2012 tax return which I don't have because you know. I always file late well I file for extension so have an extension, and I have a check where I paid some money But then your 2011 2010 you know and so we're we do this all two days beforehand Then it's like the last minute like You know, maybe we'll just print out 2009 just to make sure. I don't know." And of course this is 60 pages and then the printer freaks out and breaks and the head needs cleaning... The clock is ticking away. Yeah! We're terrorized. We are totally terrorized John. And we're grown people alright? So were off to San Antone and you arrive at the building

29:16 And there's a private security firm that has... How far is that to drive? An hour and five minutes. Okay, yeah San Antonio It's a big building with lots of glass windows to give the impression of transparency and at the entrance they have a private security firm, private guards who then say where is your invitation letter which by the way we were like half an hour on the road on I-35 said hey do you have the letter for our appointment And Mickey's like, it's in here somewhere. And I'm like...I think it's green! Every paper that I saw that was official was green She's looking for green paper and she can't find it It's like I could feel sweat dripping Oh crap do we have to go back and get this thing? Can we get through without it will be okay? It sounds like a Solzhenitsyn novel about Russia Telling you?! Of course it wasn't green, I'm an idiot We're both like

30:11 Okay, all right. You know and we actually had to say to each other okay? Okay Let's just let's admit it right here We're both really tense about this shit And so we're all like me and we just getting along on each others crap for this But we recognize it you know ok alright, so we're good. We're good. We're good. Okay. We're going do this We're good So we roll up and we have to first put everything through the bag scanner so very the x-ray very similar to in fact It is the same device at the airport And here's how funny it is. So where's your appointment letter? Alright, here's the letter... Okay... Merzum Hugendyk Because they can never pronounce Hugendyke and so there's always that kind of funny thing and Mickey is kind of fun the way Hey what do you think it is like no just one These are two old geezers I don't think they have too much skin in the game but he was like what is in because I had my water bottle My thermos metal water bottle

31:08 What's in there? Water. Okay! It could have had C4 in there for all they know, I mean it could be a pipe bomb but okay, it went through the scanner no problem then we had to go through the magnetometer which of course went off because uh...I had my belt on but didn't take shoes off which is contradiction Okay, so we're sitting there. We're waiting and we'll be called and then our officer comes to get us and takes us upstairs now already I'm like hold on a second no cubicle but okay? We're in the office

31:44 And the interview starts. Now this is the interview where you need to, uh... You can be asked separately The officer's going to assess whether you two are married or not and if you really do belong together So we have this whole list We've been prepared I have a briefcase full Mickey has a briefcase full and here are the questions which we're going to send these to our lawyer because they were not on the list John Oh! Nice None of the questions that were asked were on the list You ready? Okay. Question number one, do you know your wife looks a lot like Charlize Theron? Question number two, do you think Michael Jackson really molested those kids and question number three how do you make money with the podcast what if we didn't have to show anything other than a passport that was it he knew exactly who I was

32:45 He had no questions about any... we've been preparing for weeks for this interview. Apparently the joke's on you! Yes, and by the way he was really not having any of my answer about Michael Jackson He was like wait a show listener because he wouldn't Michael Jackson question only would come up. No, you know it started differently He said what is the most interesting person? You have ever interviewed effort that was actually the question before my Jackson And I wouldn't have brought it up Mickey said Michael Jackson and then and then he immediately went to so do you think that? He really molested those kids like no

33:28 But he wasn't having that answer, John. This was kind of the creepy thing He's like no wait a minute when you saw Martin Bashir go in and interview him And don't you think didn't you wish that you were there? You could have asked some different questions like No I think the guy was just one big ball of love That's all he was man and by the way he was acquitted of everything and i was not gonna drop The subject but he did push that a little bit Huh! So I'm thinking This true now I know it truly is the Stasi. It truly is like Russia. That's the way it works! Because if you have standing, ie you're a celebrity and apparently he still remembered then you get preferential treatment by the party Did you get him to listen to No Agenda show? That's the most important thing Are you out of your mind?! No way! Not a chance in hell are we gonna do that And then he was... He had his hand on the stamp

34:28 you know to put in the passport and you know where he's inking it the whole time. And then he keeps pounding the ink pad no, he's rolling it and then he would think of something to say and then and then he would wait and we're like put the stamp in the passport oh my god yeah this is very much like dysthymia and he's like oh and of course I'm stupid I'm so stupid Yeah, just to make conversation. Just want to know I'm so stupid. I can't believe it. I said Well what do you think about the immigration reform? That's uh? Oh my mouth that took 20 minutes 20 minutes of him rolling the ink And you don't know which way to go You like just like yeah, huh cuz I don't know if he's for it or against it or oh

35:17 I don't know and then Mickey said something about same-sex marriage, and it was like oh no. No. I know I know with you I know we were like nervous nervous nervous how it works Different ideas now do secondary screening for you. I'm telling ya And then, you know so then Mickey has to travel. She has to go back to Amsterdam for a couple of days at the end of the month which is before her actual green card would arrive So she says you know, here's the deal. Here is my ticket. Is there anything you can do? He said oh no with the stamp that I just gave you, you can travel it is as good a green card and then I say are sure because wow alright he says what do you mean well now my lawyer said that you couldn't do this anymore and had to be requested would like me take out so yeah that's public servants

36:23 I thanked him for his service. I did everything, I was really trying! Let's get on with this...I just want the paperwork done and that is what so sad That is exactly what so sad Here I am getting preferential treatment because of a gig I did 20 years ago It should I mean it shouldn't be that way, but it also shouldn't be this horrendous haranguing and it was like the guy was not nice. Don't get me wrong he was a nice guy who is pleasant But I could just see this is not a process that makes sense to A country that was built on immigration you know these people have lives in their hands And now we're talking about a lily white couple Ken and Barbie as some would say yeah

37:14 Yeah, exactly. Except for the hair color on the can. So anyway Ms. Mickey is now legal and because we have not been married for enough time we will have to go back in two years to prove that were still together For a check up? Yes, for a checkup and I will have to bring out a report Like being on probation when you're released from prison On probation And I'll have to say if i'm happy with Miss Mickey At least that's the story if you know what I mean, John. Well yeah it's pretty pathetic but that is just the way it is. It's a system. Let's thank our producers... Well before we do that would be probably better and let me just say this in advance it'd probably better if I actually open the mail and then

38:13 logged in And got the spreadsheet is that we're trying to say very slowly I mean, I could do a little bit We have a little I have a filler and we can deal with oh you gotta fill my what she got yeah? We're gonna. Do much EU talk cuz they do kind of an EU clip that is kind of No, no, I didn't destroy this is kind of distressing I've come to the conclusion that Great Britain although I think we've known this all along it's not very much into the EU for all kinds of different reasons and I realized that they put Nigel Farage, they have a bunch of people there's not just one because the Parliament has some guys including this guy Andrew Duff who you could look up. I think they put Nigel Farage in because he is an insulting A-hole to the EU members He is entertaining! He is very entertaining but what you would say is a guy who

39:08 Sent in to represent the British as a nice people. He was sent in obviously, now I've concluded this he was sent into be who he is and he's made the most of it. Yeah, arrogant British prick who's right? Yeah and then they got the other guy whose more thoughtful person This guy Andrew Duff. He's also from UKIP I think right? No no no he's Liberal Democrat Oh Lib Dem yeah And so he's in there and he is a tremendously, and I'm not giving this clip just to ridicule or make fun of the guy. But he is one of the worst stutterers in the history of Britain since that king that they did the movie about. And as a Tourette sufferer, um...I always feel like they are kind of my cousin

40:00 Stutterers are kind of like the low-grade Tourette's and you don't have the cool stuff. Right, I never thought of it that way but this poor guy and then the thing that's bad is he actually said in his nice little speech very erudite and all the rest over the stuttering but when he stuttered you'd have to actually visualize him scrunching up his face and looking like he's suffering the worst kind of breakdown ever! Can we roll? Yes please President, what I see through the clouds of tear gas is a democratic revolt. Clumsy, complex, messy but also moving

40:55 In style it re-o-o-o-o-o-o reminds me of Chicago and Paris in the 1960s. Are you kidding me? Did you enhance or sweeten this? I have done nothing to this clip. This is so painful, this is painful! Straight up now again, this is the British telling the EU to get screwed Why are they making this poor man speak at all? Shouldn't it just be a vote? Take it from his perspective, okay he has to go out there and suffer but on the other hand This has got to be the cushiest job in the world. Well, yeah all the expenses paid you got hookers and Brussels I mean the whole place is just gotta be great so they but and they know tax no taxes No taxes it's good It's a gem and he could go get treatment. I mean it's not impossible to solve these problems But this is no and this has not been that's not the worst of when you just heard it

41:54 He this has not been enhanced at all believe me. I have to play some more and play some warm is 68 and like the follow-through from such spontaneous brew revolts in the end Turkish I want to hear the translated version that they're listening to on the headphones. Oh, well...I was thinking about that too because you always in these operations always have these things and somebody's trying to translate this now it's possible if the translator can't understand a stutterer that's possibility no but this guy has been there for awhile so i'm sure that's been solved I'll bet that the translation for this guy speech is fantastic because

42:43 Generally speaking Americans and British our language is so compressed that it's hard to translate it to a lot of these Verbose languages this guy if you really listen to the number words he gets out when he finally gets them out It's very slow, which has got to be great translations Wow Did you see I can imagine some Arab listening to him not knowing? He's stuttering Right just thinking man. They have a weird way of talking don't they oh And what does it sound like when you have an Arab who stutters? Are there such things as Arab stutterers? We wouldn't know, they could all be stuttering. Alu Akbar! We wouldn't know, I've never...I have no idea. This is astounding. Democracy is to emerge stronger

43:35 with political parties that will be less sick of frantic of their leadership, with a Turkish parliament which is more pluralistic and with ideologies both secular and religious which are less preoccupying. I believe that Turkey has a great capacity to become the world's first liberal, modern Muslim European country. I'm telling you this is a form of Tourette's! I've never really taken the time

44:34 to listen to someone stuttering and it's because I recognize some of the repetitive guttural sounds. And, and I didn't...I don't have it like that that bad anymore but when I was a kid It's so and so connected to it. You know ah it really is I mean no one really knows what causes do they or what are the theories? The one theory had a we had We got a lot of stories about stuttering in the Bay Area some years back as a cornerback for thee one of the great cornerbacks ever For this Oakland Raiders hmm was a horrible stutterer, I mean this guy is like area died compared to this This guy couldn't get two words out

45:19 And his doctor, they put him on feedback therapy so he had fine-tuned the feedback through headphones and he could slow himself down. The theory at the time that they kept promoting was that the brain is running faster than the voice system in the brain can deal with it and so it runs ahead Voice can't keep up and so it's this that it could make a bunch of noise until the brain backs up and Delivers more information some to move forward because their brain is going like crazy supposedly sounds too simple I mean, but that sounds civil but did this cornerback was an astonishing quick-thinking

45:57 He was quick. I mean this guy, his nerves were not normal. Some boxers apparently they're wired so they have like a nanosecond quicker reaction than you normally get through the system through the nervous system and that's how he can hit some guy but anyway... And you know i've been laughed at my entire life for my ticks and my things and you know snickered at people like writing notes. I've been bullied! Bullied I tell ya! It's not even, it's hardly noticeable. Yeah but you don't know me! You haven't known me when I... this started when i was seven and it was pretty violent. Oh those 7 year olds were doing that? And I would like go to the bathroom with just my head going like... Just like... He all over the place now he said. No I'd have to shake my head a lot yeah and I'm hearing this speech and I'm like wow sounds a little connected

46:53 So I find it. Well, it's like 10 more seconds. I find the best thing to do is Not with not the way he's not to throw them out there before the line You know It's about talking with people about it and I don't know hmm. I have no advice I'm not a doctor and I drug him how doll I say give that shit to read Joyce at the events That are now in train Thank you Yeah So that was a... That was our filler, right. Okay can we move on now? Oh yeah no I was ready to do this. God! Let's thank some people. Always be aware of the filler. Yeah please Anyway like i said though I think this was a uh..I think the British are sick

47:40 Anyway, hyperware technologies to one of these are our executive producers for show 522 and hyperware technology comes in with five hundred twenty dollars plus thirty cents fantastic Those are just get coins but he's in the 522 club. This is the the black baron of Silicon Valley like Baron is back Jeremy Ross 522 a second member of the 522 Club nice if you're in response to our little emergency newsletter that we sent out on Saturday. Because it looked like we would have zero producers for this show, executive or associates and then look yeah well you know what if that proves the theory is when you're doing a value-for-value show and let me just say for people who are new to this program we do not have ads and you can tell why because we'd be off the air with you wouldn't be listening here at that clip he wouldn't be he could not be listening to this

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50:17 Yes, we've our report from two shows ago Provigil keeps you awake but you learn nothing as opposed to Adderall which makes you learn like crazy. At least that's what some of them say. That is it for a no agenda chemical test. Some of these drug testers out there. Dwayne Deming 335 now is this a bigger note? It says long day's journey to be a knight hohoho Especially here in Alaska. Do we have a nighting? No, no. We don't have one. Jason Doolin 330 Los Wages Nevada 333 33 short time boner first-time donor please de douche only been listening since Christmas I finally decided to donate because Adam no longer begs like a bleeding twat

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55:35 So he wants an LG Karma. I had not heard the jingle referred to as a YGK Yeah, I know. I like it. I like it. So L-G-Y... YGK You've got karma That is a great hashtag! L-G-Y...L-G-Wide...YGK Now I'm stuttering. Thank you very much, Sir Andrew. Appreciate it. Catherine Hammond meanwhile from Summer Washington... Sir Frank, I'm sorry sir Frank. I came with 222, love the show. My son hit me in the mouth with it about a year ago. I would like to clarify how schools work as a propaganda agent. It all comes from legislation. I'm a high school teacher for almost 20 years and also research on many things nefarious so i naturally looked into why have to teach what the district mandates which by the way we can do a whole show on this. Oh yeah. This is scholastic episode which you've been putting together for three years now

56:41 I'm almost done. In Washington State, the curriculum for all public schools is legislated as it supports the many state test students must take to gauge their learning which leads to English math and science tests that are graduation requirements teachers do not decide to make slaves out of students the legislature does The legislature also decides on how many fire drills, lockdown drills, earthquake drills and lay hard drills... Wait what's a lay-hard drill? You can look at it. Check the book of knowledge while I continue. Okay. I don't know either. Must endure each year. They must endure each year. The office of superintendent of public instruction led by the legislature also tells schools that when public health scare training bullying training and sexual harassment training needs to be taken by teachers

57:34 but really it's propaganda training. Our new teacher evaluation system, the TPEP Teacher Principal Evaluation Project which I believe was instituted to surpass the Teachers Union was legislated and can be traced back to the horrible think tank in DC can't think of it now could be any number them The key here is to look at who is sponsoring the legislation instead of just blaming teachers for making slaves out of our children. Perhaps we should all dig a little deeper and see who's really behind it all, find the sponsors and associates of the legislation and ALL will be revealed! So she's calling us to task. Layhar...Layhar...and if you do layhar drill you'll see that its uh..the giant voice system goes off And it's uhh....WE HAVE A LAYHAR DRILL

58:22 You're not hearing that John, but I did echo. Yeah, I am as Lehar is a type of mud flow or debris flow composed of slurry Oh a slurry of pyroclastic material rocky debris and water the material flows down from a volcano typically along a river valley so Washington State we'd have what what would cause Lehar There. Well if you're on the side of a hill or something just a hill slight collapsing. Lehar is a Japanese word that describes volcanic mud flows or debris flows. Oh, there's also volcanoes in Washington. Okay there ya go so it's muddy waters. Mount St. Helens. Yeah we learned something. Well Catherine we now understand she was little I have to say Catherine B-minus a little wordy A little toothy

59:13 And a couple of sentences were could be and think tank I believe is underlined in my spreadsheet, so I think it's hyphenated well this probably one of the Omega project $222.20 the devil's disease finally took my dad after nine very difficult years no agents that might diversion of choice for many of those years and I thank you both as Alzheimer's Is that the devil's disease all right? Well we hope you stick with it and Yeah sucks Yeah, let me take a quick look here and see if... One more. Mr Arcand? No you never sent it I don't have a note here from him From William no? No okay back down here. William Arcand $222 dollars no note and John White $200.02 having only been enlisted for four months i was unaware that the feds were already picking up my gmail account after 180 days

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1:03:36 And it's in iTunes, so you can find it there. So essentially all these little clips, all these super zingers, all these great ones, these 30-second one minute, minute and a half things that really catches people's attention where they go yeah I think I should listen to this show and I've seen at work... This is now podcast! The best thing about if you go into iTunes and you look for the Podcast No Agenda CD he has taken the NPR artwork and used that. So instead of, you know the little boxes John? The NPR it's like in a blue or white and red box so that says ITM instead of NPR and then the- Huge! Yeah if you look at all the NPR podcasts it looks just like an NPR podcast

1:04:20 I don't know how he got away with it. Wait until the lawyers come a-knocking and we say, I don't know! We had nothing to do with it. No, I had nothing... They'll never find him. iTunes? Well you know we have friends over there at the iTunes store so I'm sure that they went oh geez look at this did you see it? No No, I didn't see it. That's crazy no agenda producers again! I don't know what's going on. One more thing... Umm..I think there is still a few left. Umm he needs to- He has very limited edition of- I think he was only doing 200 Eric the Shill who was of course helping out not you know with the

1:04:57 with all of the producer tracking now but also with the 33 bags and he has noagentonation.com He's got this handmade constitution that people who are really into it like me, I'm probably going to order one I just, it's so kooky. It's kind of like it does he make these in the shed? In the back John with like leather and woodworking tools and stuff is he'd like hammering these together himself. You have to ask him. I know it's a very elaborate product right but anyway I wanted to plug what he's doing there because I think it's pretty cool and he's helping us out believe me not getting rich off of doing this stuff And of course you can always go out

1:05:41 So I have a bunch of directions we can go today with my clips. Uh, i've got some stuff on the Snowden and it being smeared which is predictable. I have a thought on all that, on the Snowden stuff... Oh okay let me play these clips but first let me give you a little background there's been a couple of whistleblowers in the past

1:04:57 with all of the producer tracking now but also with the 33 bags and he has noagentonation.com He's got this handmade constitution that people who are really into it like me, I'm probably going to order one I just, it's so kooky. It's kind of like it does he make these in the shed? In the back John with like leather and woodworking tools and stuff is he'd like hammering these together himself. You have to ask him. I know it's a very elaborate product right but anyway I wanted to plug what he's doing there because I think it's pretty cool and he's helping us out believe me not getting rich off of doing this stuff And of course you can always go out

1:05:41 So I have a bunch of directions we can go today with my clips. Uh, i've got some stuff on the Snowden and it being smeared which is predictable. I have a thought on all that, on the Snowden stuff... Oh okay let me play these clips but first let me give you a little background there's been a couple of whistleblowers in the past

1:06:27 from the NSA and one of them was a 40-year veteran, one was a 30 year veteran. We heard speeches from the William Binney guy who gave the speech and said never talk to the FBI and he says he did nothing wrong I'm gonna reiterate what he said He did nothing wrong, he went through all the whistleblower channels followed the book And they tried to put him in jail for life or...and they called him a traitor Yeah. Jake Kirkwebe was another guy, I don't have any clips from him but I heard him recently he was another guy who found that the... and he apparently bumped heads with Hayden He blew the whistle on torture yeah waterboarding specifically

1:07:13 and he followed, he did the same thing went through all the channels oh you know let everything go this certain way and all the rest. And then they tried to arrest him and throw him in jail for the rest of his life and call them a traitor. He was on a talk show recently I was listening to him it was during the day on the radio driving and this guy's on and says... Wait a minute isn't he in jail? How could be on the radio? No he got off out Oh okay They're all out But they can't get jobs and they can't work for the agency, and they still bitch and moan about the fact that they were right about one thing or another. And these are illegal activities in which they saw it. Wait a minute! That's almost like doing a podcast. Yeah, that's kind of what we're doing. It's kinda the same thing So Weeby says... Well one of things you're gonna watch First things their going to do is falsely accuse him of everything They're gonna call him a traitor then smear him

1:08:06 He says just watch and you'll see all these things. So I've been listening carefully to see when the smearing is going to begin because I think, you know, smearing people is entertaining. Let me say right off the top that having a hot girlfriend who's a pole stripper? That's not smearing! That's like upping the guy. Well... That to me is like slam dunk go Snowden Well, yeah but that's not the word the public is getting. The public is going to get... Here are the two guys that were on one of the committees These guys are bad One of them is Mike Rogers a terrible person He's the Intelligence Committee Chairman and then this horrible guy Ruffenberger Democrat from Maryland who was just

1:08:59 Just an a-hole and here they are Here's now. Here's how they're gonna smear the guy let this mirrors begin clip, okay? There is a long list of questions we have to get out This is which hearing exactly this was what this was the closed hearing that we don't know anything about but these guys came out afterwards and they started yakking about one thing. Right, yeah this was where Admiral Major General Carl Alexander spoke confidentially with with the senators, correct? I guess. They didn't say much about the thing but this is just a smear Okay but this isn't the closed hearing No no these are these guys talking to a press conference Oh okay got it Get answered about does he have a relationship with a foreign government and there's more to his story

1:09:48 I think there's questions that have not been answered on that. We're also looking at internal controls to make sure that if something was missed here, how we make sure that something doesn't get missed in the future? So we're using this as an opportunity to make sure that we are better prepared to stop something like this in the future even though we've made big strides in this kind of thing but this is A, incredibly damaging and B, there should be no notion in anyone's mind that this person is a traitor to the United States of America. And he should be punished by the full extent of the law. Let me say something more about Snowden. Some people are saying that he is a hero. He has broken the law

1:10:26 We have breaking laws in the United States for whistleblowers and for people that think there's an injustice being done. All he had to do was raise his hand, go to authorities, the whistleblower law, he is protected. Hey, he's not protected. Talk to Finney and Weeby they're not protected this guy is... This Ruppersberger is a total douchebag for saying this He knows what happened to these other guys who went through channels They got screwed And so this guy is like you gotta play the douchebag thing with this Ruppersberger Yeah of course China A country that taking cyber attack every single day Taking billions of dollars worth of American business Wait a minute! Stop the presses

1:11:08 You mean those Chiners are stealing from us? Them's fighting words. Uh, data and-and yet there are people out there that are saying that he is a hero He is not a hero based on the evidence I have He needs to be held accountable just like everybody in United States needs to be held accountable for their actions And they will go through the proper process But... Okay John let's do it quick before we finish this clip Just so you understand We've got to put some context to it Your're a whistleblower Now what're you supposed to do Go through channels and then follow the rules. Raise your hand! Oh, raise your hand? Hello?!

1:11:44 Sorry. I'm sorry! And we hope that Hong Kong and China will work with us to bring back someone who has broken the law, and could put us at great risk and lives of the United States with our allies at great risk. And I gotta tell you...I hope that we don't decide that our national security interests are going be determined by a high school dropout who had whole series of both academic troubles and employment troubles We better ask a lot harder questions about who he is and what his motives were fully, and what access he had to information before we draw the conclusion that this guy was doing something positive.

1:12:25 This guy had school problems. His school problem was he quit high school to join the special forces, to join the armed forces because he felt that he needed to serve his country That was his school problem I don't know what his employment problems were I do need to say one thing about the JSOC or whatever because i got a note from just this it pertains to what you just said Adam on one of those listeners You love someone who was on the inside who saw the light I was with J sock with the 75th Ranger Regiment were worked as a security contractor in Iraq and was a contractor teaching the military how to protect themselves from brown people attacking subs and ships. Snowden was not Special Forces, the 18x program was created after 9-11 to allow anyone off the street to attempt to make it into special forces into a special forces unit As long as you pass the ASVAB test with a high enough score

1:13:20 You get a chance to try he was probably an e1 private on his first training jump when he busted his legs Really bad and that wasn't medically discharged the kid this kid isn't with this is what we're talking about him going through your theory To whack Julian Assange. He said this is not what he's trained. He's not trained to whack Julian Assange So but anyway, you know I still work But this is why were the best podcast in the universe because yeah people who like write us this stuff Alright sorry you continue Anyway, so that so we go from there and they're you know they give him the smear and that's fine He's a lousy kid. He's a piece of crap he's a traitor And all the rest of it, so we got we got that out of the way meanwhile And when we get beaten up by China is gonna be this guy's fault yes Of course now We looked at the four slides and I've got some thoughts on this because hmm I was wondering exactly Nat Nadler this

1:14:17 Congressman from Manhattan. He's the Manhattan guy and he by the way, He looks a little bit and talks a little bit like George Costanza which is a little bit disturbing Uh-huh But he's got he is asking hard questions because Mueller came up for a big right meeting or FBI oversight You know committee from Congress was one of its subcommittees Yeah I think he did pretty good it was that was a fun you didn't hear enough of it then because he got rocked by a number of people but this one here he avoided answering this question in fact he obfuscated the answer and some other thing. And in the answer here, I think there's something important to note but this is the Nadler number 1. I'm going to play two clips from Nadler they're both great questions but play the first one which is The Process

1:15:05 No, no I'm sorry. Play the second one, Nadler 2 This is the one that directly relates to what we just heard insofar as what we thought too You got those four slides What's on there? That such a big deal He asks We have heard from Director DNI Clapper of the terrible horrible damage to national security done by...what's his name Snowden by releasing this information. I'd like you to comment on that, i don't understand how national security was breached we knew publicly from 2006 at least uh... from the report in the USA today may 11th 2006

1:15:41 about the existence of a massive NSA database of metadata from domestic phone calls. That was reported back then, we debated it in this committee and on the floor of the House in connection with reauthorization I believe So that was known publicly. The only thing that was not known, as far as I can tell, that was revealed, was the specifics of that court order which tell us nothing other than

1:16:17 what was already public, plus you can have it for whatever length of time it was. And even the stuff about Section 702 we debated that at length in the Pfizer Amendments Act debate a couple years ago so that was pretty known The only thing that may not have been known is exact technical capabilities but My assumption, and tell me why you think this is not correct. Is that any terrorist or would-be terrorist with half a brain in his head would assume... This is the question everybody's asking themselves who has half of brain themselves? All electronic communications are vulnerable Ahmed! You mean they're tapping the gmails?!

1:16:55 Maybe a subject to interception and how does what's his name just released add to that assumption or change that assumption? Let me address the last point first because I often hear it, any terrorist who has a brain would figure it out. The fact of the matter is they're terrorists and they're terrorists And I can speak generally but I cannot go in depth Wait! Wait let's write this down I want to make sure i got that John did he say there are terrorists and then there are terrorists? Yes, they're a terrorist and then they're our terrorists. Oh okay! I want to make sure we're talking about the right terrorist here. The fact of matter is their terrorists in their terrorists And I can speak generally but I cannot go into some more details as to specific harm to national security But I can tell you every time

1:17:41 We have a leak like this. If you follow it up and look at the intelligence afterwards, there are persons who are out there who follow this very closely and they're looking for ways around it. One of the great vulnerabilities that terrorists understand is their communications. And they're consistently looking for ways to have secure communications. Any tidbit of information comes out in terms of our capabilities or programs and the like, they're immediately finding ways around them And if we lose, as we... one of my problems is that we're going to lose because we've got Chad, Voight and a number of other things. Lose our ability to get their communications We are going be exceptionally vulnerable Are you going? I think you're coming to the same conclusion I am about what this is really going on here

1:18:29 Well, I'm not going to...I'm sure you're not coming to the same conclusion because I listened to this clip. For one thing is a good question what is so bad about those four slides and everyone gets all worked up about it? So I figured there's..so I think and looking back on this saying there has got to be something in those four slides some piece of information that was completely unknown and caught everyone by surprise that wouldn't have been known if wasn't for the release of these slides And I'm thinking what is the big surprise in there? And he gave it away with the very end of his thing where he says, he uses the words chat VoIP. He said that as soon as I said that, I said what's a big surprise on those slides? PalTalk! Who knew

1:19:12 that PalTalk or whatever that one service is, no one uses. It was the giveaway because there's no other reason for it being on there Google, Yahoo, Microsoft...PalTalk? I'm convinced that was the one little tidbit because I think Terry was sort of big on PalTalk Well, Skype is also included in there. Yeah but Skype was expected I would expect to see Skype. I would expect everything on there nothing surprised me except Palo Alto. Okay but I mean all right can i take this ball for a second? Go for it. Okay I'm seeing it a little different. I'm looking at the numbers last night by the way

1:19:56 I had that we had there was another dinner now this not normally. I don't do I don't go out and party on school nights So I worked all day yesterday from like 1 in the afternoon until the dinner And now this of course is a dinner here in Austin so you can imagine? And when will talk about some of the subjects from that dinner later, that's very important Um, but even if you look at the numbers at the statistics what is happening here is this as being used. This and I think there was a setup involved and I think I can point to it. This has been used to show two things one that these are important programs that we have to remember John, this is the no agenda show. You and I are fricking smart and our producers or listeners are smart and they see through it

1:20:44 But most people will listen to, here's Carney, Spokeshole Carney when he is being asked about two things. One about the programs which of course have protected us and saved us from dozens, dozens of attacks and how whistleblowers are bad so I think what is taking place here if you look at the polls 61% of Americans think that these programs are good because they're buying into the meme of trading a little bit of your privacy for your security. That's what this is about and I think i can prove it was a setup but first let's listen to the true talking points coming from the horse's mouth himself so to speak. Representative Peter King has said he believes Glenn Greenwald should be prosecuted

1:21:34 for his leaks. Does the president share that view first of all and secondly... Hold on, stop! It's something I wanted to mention one of the shows previously because it came up in one of the clips and i'm going to mention it now so we can listen to this clip with this context where is wanton publishing remember that one? Mm-hmm but they were gonna excuse... Oh no its coming, oh it's coming, it's coming. Wanton Publishing yeah it's coming it's coming and and and that will be part of podcasting if you just will email like I just read an e-mail from someone who used to be joint special operations for his wanton publishing. I can be arrested for that. Boehner today said that he's surprised the White House has not spoken out more forcefully in defense of the program and explaining more forcefully why it is necessary. How would you react?

1:22:23 Now, and this of course is not at all a set-up question. Do you think these are scripts in any way John that could be possible? No it depends on... She used to be in the girls softball team I believe. Oh okay. Well I think you heard the president speak about his views on the program and then necessity of programs. Necessity John! Necessity of the programs. The question here and then necessity to have those programs in place in order to protect our national security and i felt that the national security who is a witness on printed this isn't by the way that's a weird thing to say we have national security now we gotta protect the security thank you heard uh... the president make clear that he believes that

1:23:08 the trade-offs that we have to make to pursue our security and protect our privacy, uh...we have found through the system we have the right balance. Balance! It's the right balance! But he understands that others may have a different opinion and it the debate about that is important. It's an important debate. On the issue itself of the necessity of these programs. The president agrees with... Necessity again? General Alexander, the head of the NSA who spoke yesterday on Capitol Hill about the programs under sections 215 and 702 Now remember we have for years been running section215 dot org You remember when the Patriot Act got re-upped We opened a website section 215 dot org This is how long we've been on this stuff

1:24:08 and how they have helped thwart dozens of attacks. In fact, I just renewed the website. And he used two examples that have been declassified and i think it's important. Now it's important pay attention. There was a plot to attack the New York City subways They omit a couple of important pieces of information about these two attacks. The first one is this New York City Subway's in early September 2009 and do you remember this particular attack John? Because most people don't really take the time to discuss it when this was the guy they nailed him because they had security footage of him getting... In the beauty shop! Yes

1:24:52 The phony footage of him loading up some black guy Remember the rock side. Yes, do you remember we were like laughing at this story? It was so obviously fake and we were like why did this did you recall all this like why did it happen he was from Colorado and He drove to New York and then the whole thing was just filled with holes filled with holes this thing was. While monitoring the activities of Al Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan? Now that's different by the way if you're listening to some brown people in Pakistan okay, you know that's what you do, you kill them anyway so that's fine... The NSA noted contact from an individual in the US that the FBI subsequently identified as Colorado-based

1:25:32 Hey everybody, my name's Colorado-based Najibullah Zazi. I like beauty products! The US intelligence community including the FBI and NSA worked in concert to determine his relationship with Al Qaeda... I love how he reads from his points here this is just so smooth it just slickly goes into it then he goes into the David Headley thing so yeah I don't want to play the rest of that now This is the true talking point. So it is necessity, these necessary programs are a necessity The balance... It's the right balance has been struck between giving up a little bit of our privacy and our freedoms for some security Let's go to the McLaughlin Group which I'd say another highly scripted we know its highly scripted program We know from producers that work there that everything is scripted It is a scripted program Mort Zuckerman

1:26:25 He lays out the talking points you're going to hear everywhere now and it's, I mean it is disgusting. I don't feel that my privacy has been violated okay? Well I would feel that my privacy had been violated if I was in a subway and the goddamn thing blew up! Okay sorry... Well, so safety rules. You want to change the whole mood of this country? Have a couple of terrorist attacks that go off without the ability to stop them. Yeah! There you go! By the way this is the same guy who lost most of his wealth and most of his friends' wealth

1:27:09 Because he was caught up in the he was a big buddy of made a bird Bernie Madoff. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah this so that's what we're dealing with the guy here who says judgment issues right but do you hear everyone laughing? Oh, yeah? No, they think it's hilarious Okay now I know this is very sickening let us listen just for a moment because of course you know if any country is a little ahead of us and in the New World Order shut up slave that would be our very own Gitmo Nation East known as the United Kingdom where it's gotten so bad now the hookers can't even get a $30 gig. So Mr. Hague, what is his name? Horatio Hague, the foreign secretary... Right, Baldi. The Baldi he went on to BBC and he actually said the words

1:28:01 that you do not want to hear anyone in government ever say. Intelligence gathering in this country by the United Kingdom is governed by a very strong legal framework so we get the balance right between the liberties and privacy of people and security of the country Did you know about prison though? Well, I don't...I can't ever confirm or deny in public what Britain knows about and what Britain does. For the obvious reasons once we start doing that on this or anything else then the terrorists were trying to defeat the foreign intelligence agencies we are competing with Just remember now it's the same talking points here It is all part of the same system but he takes it one step further Build up the picture of what we do The net effect if you are a law-abiding citizen of this country going about your business and your personal life

1:28:48 life. You have nothing to fear! There you go, if you're a law-abiding citizen of this country and your going about your business... YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! However if you like downlawing weird porn or if you are cheating on your wife or husband Or maybe you're driving too fast or could be breaking the law in many ways we'll come down on you with the wrath of God and chop your fucking balls off nothing to fear about the British state or intelligence agencies listening to your, the contents of your phone call. Not just I'm sorry I almost flubbed it there not listening to the phone calls...I mean the contents of your phone calls or anything like that indeed you'll never be aware of all the things those agencies are doing

1:29:35 Stop your identity being stolen a very good job of that even to stop a terrorist blowing you up We have But if you are a would-be terrorist, or the center of a criminal network, or a foreign intelligence agency trying to spy on Britain. You should be worried because that is what we work on and we are on the whole quite good at it. $600 stolen from my mechanics bank account through a ring apparently. Really? And what it is, yeah that's the report I think I've probably lost it Wait wait wait wait Through your debit card? Yeah Then they give that back to you We've had that happen so many times

1:30:29 Yeah, they give it back to you. But it's like a process and I see... This is an organized crime ring And here's what the... And I don't know we have Mimi has her theories and my theory where the card numbers were stolen Well first of all its the kids The kids are doing this They're your kids I mean their kids are always responsible I kids don't even know. I have a card anyway So the thing was that we all took place unless my kids are living in Hemet, California possible Which is oh? This has been the same place that's happened to us Yes, yes area is a little area It's on south of Bakersfield in the middle of nowhere And there's obviously a ring and they got a card printing machine up because these cards are all obviously being run through stuff because it goes To gas stations yep, and they're Numbers yeah They take money out

1:31:12 So they print the card, they get the number. They print a card and put your name on it or whatever and then they use in gas stations. Walmart six times in a row $30, $30. Nobody catches it I was under the impression you'd catch these things based on the fact that these guys are buying tanks and tanks of gas. And sneakers! Well they didn't get the sneakers but too much gas into this Walmart crap which could have been the sneakers yeah anyway so this whole thing is now So we're listening to this guy go on and on about all of this, oh we can do this or that. Why cant they stop these little simple criminal rings that are all over the place using the same technology? They cant! This is like an incompetent bunch of boneheads and these guys who were whistleblowers by the way for the NSA some time back

1:32:00 Both had better solutions to problems that were, to mechanisms that weren't working. This is just a bunch of Nazis trying to listen in on our calls! Right well let me make my final point... This is becoming a blackmail state they don't care about crime or terrorism they care about blackmail they care about stock tips yes that's what you use this information for and I believe John and I'm about to roll out the what I think is proof or evidence that this particular case, which I think we're all in agreement. It's like whatever everyone on this show knows has been going on forever and i would like to remind people we've been talking about the second street AT&T building almost since the inception of the no agenda podcast

1:32:49 and the whistleblower, and secret wind or trade wind or smelly wind or whatever the program was called. The siphoning off, the splitting off of the fiber optics you know so please don't send me another link to security now we know this! We've been...we know how this has been working forever This is not a big surprise it's been in The New York Times It's been published everywhere since 2003 But what is happening here, is the mood is being changed and we are being told as citizens. We are being told this is necessary to have this blackmail mechanism in place so that we can have total control over people and I totally agree with you John And heres where im going to take it for you Glenn Greenwald was set up for this He was set up

1:33:37 And this is what everyone is missing. First of all, let's take a look at who got this story... Who didn't get this story? New York Times! Why didn't Snowden go to the New York Times? Why did he only go to The Post and did he go to The Guardian? Well you know what? He didn't. He went to Poitras. The woman that did the documentary she brought the story to Glenn Greenwald and she brought the story to The Post And there's a whole piece in the New York Times right now about this, why they're saying well you know it's okay just as long as the information gets out. No they didn't want to be apart of this and because they are actually helping to propagate the meme that we need this and oh we should arrest the whistleblower. This came up last year at the Hope Conference where Binny was asked a question and listen to this question-this is a year ago

1:34:32 Thanks for an absolutely incredible presentation and everything you've done. Thank you In February of 2011, a group of hacktivists associated with Anonymous cracked into intelligence contractor HBGary's servers And among the things they found were PowerPoint presentations describing how HBGary along with other intelligence contractors Palantir You heard the name Palantir. This is 2011. Proposed to silence progressive voices like Glenn Greenwald, TheSalon.com... Ohhhhkayyyy! There it is! Anonymous, the hacktivist group IECIA discovered some documents at HB Geary this incredible defense contractor who trolls social media how they were going to discredit

1:35:27 Glenn Greenwald and other voices including of course the Guardian and anyone else so Glenn Greenwald if you have been following John which I think you have has been defending his reporting He is being smeared and he's got to cop to it pretty soon or he's going down in flames. He and the Guardian, they're going... No, he doesn't see it. I've watched him on show after show defending himself and it doesn't appear to me that he sees this This is great by the way because this also explains Peter King coming out of the blue and saying oh he should be arrested

1:36:08 What are you know this again is publishing the wanton publishing wanton publishing and so this was taking place in 2011 he was targeted and they took this woman who they first gave half a million dollars to from the what Was it the which foundation? Was it John? The you know, she's a fellow. Yeah Which isn't yeah, and there are media They basically fund media It's interesting by the way, a little thing you're overlooking here which was in this report you've got is that they transferred him from Salon to keep Salon out of the mess. Yes To The Guardian because The Guardian was a better target Well yeah but also look who's behind Salon Salon is the guys who are Adobe which is the NSA so that why he had to go away I think there's a little point you might want to add to your list yes and I like that

1:37:01 So, so Glenn he is a schmuck. He's a total schmuck and this... And so now we kind of get to last night Oh my god I don't know if i can do it right now I think maybe should wait for second half because its like a whole... I'll need some energy Well let me take a little bit of the pressure off by adding a couple clips. There's one thing about this and this is kind of backing up but it's not completely, and this will be Mike Rogers again, the guy who is smearing Adam Sandberg

1:37:39 Snowden and Nadler again who brought up something that was then rolled out and seen at some other places when they deconstructed what Nadler had to ask or it was said but I just want to play the Mike Rogers on numbers because i want to remind people that this is the, this meme is such bullcrap. That I wanted just I wanna point it out by playing this play. They collect business records, which is something called metadata. Which is only phone number to phone number Again no names attached It doesn't say Mike Rogers call Dutch Ruppersberger No addresses The only closest thing you might get is a region of the country based on an area code

1:38:22 That's the closest you would get. And so some notion, and here is the thing if you're going to connect the dots in anything like the Boston bombing to find out if there are other co-conspirators If your'e going to connect the dots on a 9 11 style event or hopefully prevent a 911 style event You have to have dots in the box in order to connect Dots in the box. You gotta have dots in the box, like oh it's right here. Now here is what bothers me I left that longer because that dots in the box was irresistible Anyway okay here's the deal Oh we don't... all we have are just these vague phone numbers

1:39:02 Are you kidding me? You can do reverse searches on all these phone numbers on the internet. This is a phone number that's in a directory, this phone number is connected to you it's your number! It's like your social security number I have a phone number for my cell phone. I have a home phone number when somebody says oh it's just the number it's a vague number yeah It's my number. It does relate to me, it is not bull trash. Oh it's not an anonymous number? It's a real number and they're playing it up as though oh its just a bunch of numbers that doesn't mean anything just numbers this is metadata numbers the number is you

1:39:41 John, hold on one second. I don't know if it's catchy enough It needs a couple more. So meanwhile, so we go back to the hearing with Mueller and by the way I want you to do this exercise everyone listening in on this show Mueller is really addicted Are you angry?

1:40:19 No. Mueller's really, I don't care. Mueller is just a number We have no skin in the game. Mueller is a dick and he has got by the way the cadence of Napolitano There's almost like a milieu, like a gay milieu when you get a bunch of gay people A lot of times they pick up kind of sounding like each other it gets very gay sounding because overall milieu In fact that happens to me I start sounding gay when i'm hanging out with my gay friends. Well, bring it to the show! Anyway so they all have this certain kind of a sound but the other thing is this arrogance of that Sheila Jackson... Lisa Jackson who's now at Apple by the way yeah rude arrogance you know that'll ruin the clip. Actual nose in the air his nose

1:41:10 During the whole thing, he's actually his nose is pointed up in the air. That's how arrogant he is. I want everyone to do this exercise because this is the look on his face drop your jaw so your mouth open a little bit down and kind of opened not fully open but about half open and then pull your chin back as far as you can And you got this kind of... But now you have to have it's like, the look is not just a dumb look. It's a fuck-you look! So anyway, that's what that's that's Mueller's whole thing. He is getting sick of this thing. It's a fuck you in the morning roll over there. He gets racked good This is Nadler asking him a question Adler to or not sorry Nadler one I guess another one yes yeah that

1:42:02 a dragnet subpoena for every telephone, every telephone record etc., every email record although I know they don't do that anymore but they could again tomorrow. And they did do it certainly makes a mockery of the relevance standard in Section 215. If everything in the world is relevant, then there's no meaning to that word and some of us offered amendments to narrow that several years ago and in retrospect maybe we should have adopted those amendments but that's no excuse for a misinterpretation of relevance to the point that there is no such meaning to the word now secondly under section 215

1:42:42 If you've gotten information from metadata and you as a result of that think that, gee this phone number 873 whatever looks suspicious and we ought to actually get the contents of that phone. Do you need a new specific warrant? You need at least a national security letter. All you have is a telephone number, you do not have subscriber information so if you needed the subscriber information you would probably get that from the national security letter to get that subscriber information and then if you wanted more... If he wanted to listen on the phone? Then you'd have to get a particularized order from the FISA court directed at that particular phone of that particular individual Now is the answer you just gave me classified?

1:43:31 The answer you just gave me classified in any way? I don't think so. Okay, then I can say the following We heard precisely the opposite at the briefing the other day we heard precisely that You could get the specific information from that telephone simply based on an analyst deciding that and you didn't need a new warrant. In other words, what you just said is incorrect so there's a conflict... I'm not certain it's the same answer to the same question but i'm sorry I didn't mean to... Well I asked the question both times and I think its the same question So maybe you'd better go back and check because someone was incorrect

1:44:13 I will do that. That is my understanding of the process. Okay, I don't question your understanding it was always my understanding First of all, congratulations. The great clip I had the same one obviously but you set it up perfectly. I do want to just play this little report that came out 30 seconds about that classified meeting which was just blown open, blown wide open because this is what happened everyone's backpedaling trying to say it was a misunderstanding he didn't know what he was saying it was confusing but how about that secret meeting? No details this afternoon from Facebook and Microsoft

1:44:49 about their participation in the NSA surveillance plan. Facebook, the government data... Facebook says the government requested data from between 18 to 19 thousand user accounts in late 2012 a tiny percentage of Facebook's 1 billion users Microsoft says it received requests for data from about 32 thousand users both companies complied with those request and more than half of the United States Senate failed to show up Friday for a briefing by intelligence officials on the NSA surveillance controversy. The Hill reports the Senate had a short day Thursday, and quote many lawmakers were eager to take advantage of the short day and head back to their home states for Father's Day weekend. Norm maybe we call that plausible deniability I'm sorry i couldn't make the meeting

1:45:39 Half of the US senators did not go. This is funny because this report I heard from, I think it was Feinstein when she gave her little press briefing is that only about four people didn't show up half the u.s. senators did not show up? I think they were there and they said they weren't oh that's possible too well that's possible cuz theirs your plausible denial wasn't their well does it doesn't matter as long as there's a report in the news then it's all true Yeah, so they didn't show up. So now they've got their cover. Oh okay right or as the Obama bot said last night at dinner yeah it hasn't been a good week for the president well like we said about a month ago now they're gonna start piling on and it just that's hasn't stopped yet is getting to be very fun let us please can we do donations and then I gotta couple more things we gotta listen especially the grilling by Louie Gohmert

1:46:35 of Mueller and also... Let's do it now. Would you go, Mert? Well no there is a bunch of them that are kind of played in a certain kinda order but where is leading because for me We now know that they can listen in at any time, they're recording everything. Scooping it all up... Yeah we got.. Now this is a different topic Oh okay alright We're moving off to the IRS and some of the other stuff Alright oh okay Is it really truly new? The last one... No these are good though These are great I'm personally just getting bored of the whole thing Yeah we'll be down there I got the one last clip from this wiretapping thing is Feinstein on Alexander, on the attacks. We should know by Monday suppose it just play this and I'm gonna challenge this. General Alexander characterized the attacks that were prevented and when he says dozens which he has said publicly if you're talking 24 50 100

1:47:31 Shut up! Don't ask questions. So for Monday support he wants to be exact wait a minute. Let me get this straight Yeah, we've been doing the show long enough that anytime they stay They set up some poor sucker yeah to push a button and then they arrest them they make big news out of it so all these all these Situations have been reported and they generally have been publicized These are the ones we couldn't tell you about because it was for your own good

1:48:25 It's all we've got and there's apparently more than you think according to her. Dozens! And this guy doesn't even know the number off the top of his head, why not? Because they're lying sacks they're liars they're all liars and this is but this is the horrible thing John This is why I'm just like whoa okay this is all being people people don't analyze stuff the way we do. They don't listen to things the way we do, they don't listen to this show and it's like oh well dozens are you crazy? I mean there was this with the subways could have been blown up. Well I knew you want it like Mord Zuckerman said right there no yeah I don't wanna get blown up! You wanna get blowed up that's what they're saying they are now saying two people if you don't want

1:49:16 And that's why this is all taking place. It's horrible and it's spreading! In the UK, he's just like... Don't you worry! You've got nothing to worry about? You're not doing anything wrong? If you are a law-abiding citizen of an expired... No we noticed that you dropped a napkin and left it on the ground as littering Yes now we have your phone records Anyway, let's thank a few people. Oh whoa whoa? Whoa that's not how it works all right This is the this break so we have a little intro first yeah We do this show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh Yeah

1:50:07 And before you start, I would like to mention that again this is how we fund the operation here which is John and myself and we have some back office which are our families essentially. Just to show you how it works in the real big world, you have this thing called public media. In America you have that and we have the National Treasure NPR our radio side and we have PBS the Public Broadcast System television And there's this news hour The McNeil-Lehrer News Hour Used to be called that Yeah well its in big trouble now Its in big trouble I know they laid off a bunch of people Do you know why?

1:50:48 In San Francisco too. Do you know why? I wondered why. Oh well, because at first i was like wow it's just hard times underwriting is down sponsorship advertising call whatever you want to call yeah whatever you want to call it that's literally how they talk about it the bill and Melinda Gates foundation withdrew their annual grant That was enough to shutter the place? $3.5 million dollars. Now they've been running it, I read this whole story through this entire thing so they expanded their operations and started doing this global health watch When the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation came in with 3.2 million dollars annually, so all they have to do is just throw in a report about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation shooting up some black kids in Africa with whatever phony baloney crap they come up with

1:51:39 And then they get their three million bucks. But some consultant came in and went, because this is how the foundation works. They did a survey of the News Hour and went no, no it's not really working out the way we wanted it so now they're coming up with a new show on PBS with an all-new producer who was probably fucking the consultant. So $3.2 million dollars has taken away that show was gone history toast done with This is how these meetings work. It's like, we need to get some fresh blood in. What do you think Bill? I don't know Malin what do you think? Yeah i'm a little bored with the show yeah i'm bored too tell you what let's have someone investigate it

1:52:21 And that's how journalism works, philanthropic journalism. It is over! Screwed and done with! That show was going off the air they are replacing it with a new show which will be completely what Bill & Melinda Gates and their foundation want it to be. That's your news funded by A-holes who just want to propagate their message. What is that noise I keep hearing? Well, we have to definitely follow this story! Yeah oh yeah it's the four here... I know they closed the San Francisco office so everyone's done I guess a couple other bureaus, they're shutting down the bureau so they're going to pare down. The title is Venerable Format of News Hour Struggles with New Era of Media No it doesn't! This is great show! This is the story! And most objective observers even though its still left leaning because all media isn't and has been admitted too by the head of Columbia School of Journalism in his speech he said it John that's the title that I just gave you of the New York Times piece

1:53:25 Well, it's in their vet... NewsHour came under criticism in a confidential May 2012 report commissioned by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation one of the program's major supporters in recent years that concluded bluntly that the program needed to aggressively modernize news gathering production. What? Are you telling me they're not on Final Cut Pro?! Yeah, oh yeah. This is going off the air! It's going off the air that they're coming out with a whole new show... They're already producing it! This is a disaster!! Yes!!! And people with money can get anything done they want in media. Proof. Fact. Wow. However- You had a clip on that? That'd have been a clip of the day for me. But this is not how it works with our model.

1:54:21 Outside consultants say the confidential study from consultant Frank and maggot associates. I didn't do the work, I didn't have time to look into these a-holes but you guarantee you he's screwing someone's fucking this guy who is going to be the new host or whatever concluded that viewers found the program smarter than other network news sources an appreciate appreciated its fairness depth original content overall sense of purpose But they also felt that it doesn't excel for having reporters and personalities that viewers enjoy, finding it old-fashioned slow moving and even boring. Well let me tell you I don't know about the so called public sector the public media lying sack of underwritten commercial crap but in my world when someone says that about your show... You're fired!

1:55:13 Wow. Viewers think it's a little old-fashioned, a little slow moving... What viewers? The viewer! I watched that show how come they didn't contact me?! So they're fired you're out you're done by the way it costs 13 million dollars a year to produce that yeah I think they do a good job. I mean, most people think it's the most subjective Forget about it! It's over And so now we can't even get that? We're just gonna get some sort of Fox-like thing or CNN kind of crap? PBS could choose not to 3D personalities? Hey maybe I should apply...I've got personality Hey everybody! Hello! Can I be your sidekick?!

1:55:58 Hey, I'm the wacky sidekick with Tourette's. All right PBS could choose not to renew the program's contract and find a new producer for the moment. PBS instead is investing three million dollars in a new program called PBS News Hour Weekend anchored by Hari Srezevan She was blowing somebody. Oh, oh wait is that one in Hari Sreenivasan? He's on the show listen a correspondent on the weekday program and he's also the director of digital partnerships Well there it is so there's a fancy crew yeah Yeah There it is there It Is this is how it works in public media people with money can get anything done that they want

1:56:43 And maybe they just didn't like the coverage of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, but you go down that route... Somebody didn't like something. Yeah! Exactly this is exactly what happens and that is why we chose for this model Because it's the only way. We've had too many people come up with, you know... You see this, hey well you know what we'd like to do? We're changing our direction and I mean they did that with me numerous times It's always like just told bullets just a lie because nobody has the guts to say look Here is the way if he had got you go look we don't like you anymore Yeah! You're done get out yeah your boring i want new friends

1:57:25 It's suck. I need new people for my dinner room for my dinners it can't be you anymore and by the way one Yeah, we just thought it was a little boring You know someone someone like oh god it I hated So much because I've been through that loop I've been through that yeah, you know it's not as they they said there was a meeting of those days There wasn't meeting at the board level and it's out of my hands. I can't help it you know it's like really what it is if either you cut your hair or You know, I'm sorry. Yes! I've been told that. Yeah... Hey Jake you know that trademark of yours? Get rid of it. Oh yeah, oh you want me to look like a penis? Hey Gene Shalit can you lose the mustache? Hey Oprah can be white and thin Exactly

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1:59:07 He just saw the Man of Steel. Here's some trivia, he says... Question 1 in the movie how many years has Superman lived on Earth? Answer 33 What does Superman take down at the end of the movie as a warning to be left alone? Answer a drone Yeah are we ahead of the curve or what? We actually influence Hollywood with this show Okay, so Sir Mark Wilson came in at $100 and wants to get his ring. And he's irked about this course that we have because he is in the UK. They steal it! They steal it? Oh look at this! We'll get it to you Mark eventually. Our Sir Mark Chad Watson 100 dollars Christian Herzog 73 73 is Sir Zogg to you. That's right, 73's. And here by the way KC9 is Kansas City 9

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2:00:53 Okay, nice James Durant our Pascal shelf. How it is the last one that James Durante a 6969 he's oh He's got the Father's Day shout out okay Way to go John sorry Sorry Pascal or Geraint Duranti so we've got a lot to do here today. Can you? Daniel Henderson Robert Clayson Chad Biderman Mark Fogwell, Brian Barrow. I think it's Biderman, Chad Biderman probably. It could be Biderman. Fogwell says that I sound desperate. The C stands for cash! Also stands for computer. Byron Barrow and by the way he is in Wooten Basset. Yes Brian Barrow. That's what I said, Brian. You said Byron. Brian Barrow and Wooten Basset

2:01:46 Erica Langer got a birthday coming up in San Francisco over here William Baumann 6969 and you know we need told us how to say is this name who enemy who enemy enemy This port town in California. I'll get it next time Ed Zolo He's putting this to everybody goes to knighthood by the way Chris tall breath and in Denver, and that is the 6969 club Pascal by the wind shelf who how hoot

2:02:23 Where Scherfhout is in Harlem, Netherlands. What's this name that you're butchering? Scherfhout... Scherffhout. I can't see it on the list! Number 22. Twenty... Oh, Scherfhaut Yeah! That means shelf wood. What is that noise?! Where does that come from? Not me, that came through my speakers No, something is Where's that coming from? So I want to ask you a question, a Dutch history question. Yeah Because the new Amsterdam was New York City when it was founded by the Dutch Peter Stuyvesant Yes Is Harlem with the two A's in The Netherlands Was that Harlem named after this town or not? Yes! Yes! Harlem, New York was named after Harlem in The Netherlands Why did they drop one of the As

2:03:17 Well, I mean this is the... To get the A's and holes. Never mind! Okay Alright anyway onward. I always wondered that Yeah i don't know it was just easier that way I don't know No I'm saying I always wonder if it was named after the city Oh yes no there's a well how about Brooklyn is Brooklyn? oh I didn't know that either yeah And they sold it for like five mirrors and a trinket or something Stupid Dutch What about Queens Not sure about Bronx. Is there a Bronx one? Yeah, the Bronx I can't remember what it was but yeah the Bronx is also one of those Dutchisms. Interesting Tanya Salander in parts unknown or Montreal Quebec sorry Colin Peterson I see the things way over its hard to line up the end with the name of the city Yes I know we'll get it fixed for you darling don't worry

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2:19:04 It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so much in love with you. Eric Langer says happy birthday to Sean Z. He turns 29 Sir Mitch Bedron his beautiful wife Jill is celebrating Robin Hawk says happy birthday to a rockin' awesome hubby Rolly. I love you sweetie! And Ed Zalo says happy birthday to Phil Rodas all of you congratulations from your front here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday yeah! Darn, all right. They've waited long enough I need to get into this this is just crazy Okay here we go alright so you play the second half shows jingle and I don't think it well I can do it I mean if yeah, don't if it's not nutty if It's worse than that Alright, so we have some are very very good friends here in Austin And these are the kind of guy I'll tell you these like there's four guys group a or Group B This is group G

2:20:07 These are the gay boys. Oh, this is... okay I didn't forget about that. Just to set it up how awesome these guys are One of their friends who's in Austin who was 68 or 69 he needed a kidney and one of our friends they were all on the list one of our friends just said oh here's a kidney so this is what these guys are like you need a kidney? Okay So you kind of get some and this just happened All of a sudden he's like, yeah I'm in the hospital. Oh no! I gave Robert my kidney. Okay... So think about what kind of people these guys are. So they have a dinner party and one of them is Fritz, now Fritz is Mexican-German which if you want to crazy ass combination get that and we have a lot of Germans in Texas but German-Mexican is even crazier so they were having a dinner party with a couple other people and normally I would say no not on Saturday night because that's the school night I can't go out and play

2:21:05 But when these guys ask me, I go. First of all, I really love them but you know... These are people who are pretty awesome and they have a guest and I've promised to not mention her by name because she got really freaked out when she found out that I just poke holes in everything Is this a person whose name I would recognize? No, not at all. But it's a woman and she is a childhood friend of one of our friends and she lives in Houston but was in the Austin area for something called Battleground Texas

2:21:48 And I was like, oh what is Battleground Texas? And as she's explaining to me what Battleground Texas is. Essentially it is if you look at the website... Oh I just want to get all my notes here what is the website it's battlegroundtexas.com yeah so battleground texas dot com you can see in the logo already oh yeah Obama bought right so but so they have what they say they're doing is they say that they are just getting registering everyone to vote but not now they're registering everyone to vote Democrat and but she was telling me about

2:22:31 You know, she was making fun of me. She's like no this is all just we're just feminists and Nazis were out and I think she immediately had me pegged as like a Republican which is wrong And this is kind of where the whole thing got off to a bad start So she's telling me about this. I'm like really tell me what this battleground Texas Oh you know it's what your zip code? No don't please please Don't fill out my I don't want any in knowing put my name in give me your zip code though Then they're not gonna give it him Why do you need my... Oh, 78704. Yeah. And so this is really really sad So she's like oh no this is the whole it's just like OFA she says I'm like what? You go to OFA? Oh yeah an all member of OFA. You know what OFA is don't you

2:23:14 Organization of Freaks of America? Obama for America. Right, and so this is run by the same people I'm sure And they do have big meetings and they all go sit down and talk about the snowflake You know what your snowflake is don't you John No I don't even know what your talking about Your in the middle of the snowflake and you branch out with your crystal So then you are reaching people in your area and hopefully you touch another snowflake that's created I'm not kidding. Yes! You know what a snowflake looks like, right? Is this woman spinning while she's telling you this? Almost... almost So i'm like okay and but she's making fun of it so i'm like oh that's pretty funny She says yeah no we have the generic coke we have the organic pizzas and we talk about how we're going to basically register people to vote because Texas is not- in a red state she says Texas is a non voting state Okay fair enough great

2:24:13 Then, you know we're just all happily chatting about and I of course at one point say wow it's been interesting. Something came up about the NSA and about the spying and everything and she says yeah it's been a really rough week or rough month and I said yeah well same old same old same guy different story doesn't make any difference who is in The White House? And then she says this is what got me pissed off Yeah, except now it's a Democrat and of course everyone just wants to kill the black guy in the White House. I'm paraphrasing but that was like a talking point It was like MSNBC and she said you hear it all over Texas Really? So I hear it on MSNBC all the time but I don't really hear anyone in Texas saying they want to shoot the black guy in the White House

2:25:05 And then she has this scale of like one to five and how we got to talk to people about this thing. Five is people who just want to go shoot the black man in the White House, and one is like Mickey, you know? Who loves gay people and maybe has a gun. Essentially if you look at her Twitter which I did what they do is they yell at Republicans on Twitter that's kind of the whole job of Battleground Texas But if it's for getting people to register to vote, obviously you said it was for getting people to vote Democrat. Because if you listen the second paragraph in the About Us page...

2:25:42 To do that we need Texans in every corner of the state from Amarillo to Brownsville and El Paso to Beaumont, who stand up and say that they're tired of not being heard. Tired of being represented in Austin and Washington DC and tired of the same Republican playbook which is failing our communities and ignoring the needs of countless Texans! So seriously, I can't give you her Twitter but she is seriously what she does is yells at Sarah Palin on Twitter. I kid you not! Now this woman is very interesting. She lives in Houston and she's from Virginia

2:26:21 I believe she's wealthy because she has an 11-year old son and two horses. And the irony, her husband is in the oil and gas industry we didn't get to talk about that because she says but that's not my real job oh what's your real job? Well she works for Moms Demand Action like well what's that Because, you know I'm interested and I'm really trying. You know? I don't like ruining dinner parties. I don't yeah Yeah, I know these are my friends And by the way there was a ski to have their well yes Of course I'm gonna risk and there was like a the minute she said that thing about you know shoot The black man in the White House There was like it was like someone put the cone of silence over the table and everyone's like looking at me Like oh shit Oh she didn't curry's here. Oh god. Oh please oh shit now he's gonna ask questions

2:27:14 So then she starts on about this momsdemandaction.org and I was like what is it? Well, we want universal background checks we want to limit magazines so we want yeah oh okay and this is now all of a sudden things are starting to click into place for me because I had just seen Someone from Moms Demand Action on television. Here's Kim Russell, who is the national spokeswoman for this organization I think on CNN. What would you say has been your group's singular success since the shooting at Newtown? I think our biggest success here has been just harnessing the power of mothers and fathers to join us in this fight The tragedy in Newtown woke us all up

2:28:01 We were shocked to discover the state of gun violence in this country. It's really a shame that it took such a tragedy to do that, but now we're here and we're going to fight this. We are going get awareness out about this issue legislatively and also from a cultural perspective We're really trying to make a difference. You've got a new initiative where you're trying to get video game companies not to enter into agreements anymore with good manufacturers and I think a lot of folks would be surprised even know about some of these agreements what are they? So there so, um...I'm starting to remember this stuff and i was like wait a minute aren't you guys going after the video game industry she said no we're just putting our toe in the water but your going after violent movies as well aren't you now she knows im an adversary so I am like aw crap

2:28:48 don't want to ruin this game it away I did and then as a so tell me what do you really want and she rolls it out you know universal backcrunching what do you mean well we can't have people handing off guns to each other we wanted all to be registered unlike okay you know but and of course um now I'm like uh-huh who is this really about well you know we can't have gangbangers handing off guns to each other Like, well yeah but won't they kind of do that? And then she whips around like oh why don't we just not have stop signs. I'm like uh...I'm not quite sure how that fits in but you know let's just look at this rationally for a second What?! I know bear with me John bear with me it gets a lot worse So when did this thing start right after Newtown and what is it its moms from all over the country and we demand action

2:29:44 Uh, okay. So I'm kind of like, ah, this is really strange now. Well tell me a little bit more about this group and she rolls in again we want universal background. She said yeah got that but what do you really want? Is that going to really stop the problem and by the way what you're talking about primarily it's not the biggest problem if your talking about white kids being killed by white kids You know the real problem is black kids being killed by black kids. That's where your real problem is, but okay? I'm willing to go with it And and now I'm interested in her message because I see one thing John this would really hurt me last night

2:30:20 I see a woman who really is patriotic and she really cares about her country, but she has been taken by the balls by this propaganda machine which at this very moment is rolling out the sixth month since Newtown. And she had all just like you know since 1214 or that whole meme that we've been on everything's been pounded into this woman's head And she really, really means well. I know she means well of course we want to help our kids but she has a hate! A HATE! for anything that has the name Republican, which I'm convinced she still thinks I'm a Republican. She has a hate for anything that is not in line with the talking points that we've discussed and is completely closed to any kind of conversation about something that might make some sense and where I said you know maybe just want to get rid of guns altogether no no it's well

2:31:17 What is your line? Why wouldn't you if you're taking that perspective, let me just ask ya. Yeah well... I'll tell you why. You're on this boat! I know why. Because and I said to her. I said you know what this is really about he said this organization that you're a part of It's it, I think it's filled and and Mickey said she was gonna cry I disagree because I was just being really calm so this organization you were part of No, no. Mickey wasn't gonna cry. This woman was going to cry. Oh you think the girl was gonna cry? Yes! Mickey like pulled her away from me at a certain point just like my husband's an asshole. You nailed her with this...you know just moving women out That's what I said. I said that that's really what this is about. Haters. Haters that hate the Republicans They hate the Republicans and she said yes that is true but we also really want- And I say okay now tell me about this organization

2:32:13 And so it started by this woman named Shannon Watts. So after this dinner, and I know this Shannon Watt's woman why do i know? Because she is milfy looking! Here is her video here is her story of why she started She is from Indiana by the way So she started this, actually it started first as a million moms against guns dot org and I guess that didn't work so they changed it to Moms Demand Action dot org. It is not a non-profit they don't claim to be a nonprofit you can donate to them here's her story on the website. I am the mother of five children in Indianapolis

2:32:49 My 12-year old son found out about the Aurora shootings right before he went in to see Batman. In the middle of the movie, he had a panic attack. It was the first of many. Since then, he has seen a psychologist. He's developed nervous ticks and is afraid to sleep I want to be able to tell him when he goes into a movie that he's safe. I wanna mean it, I wanna feel it and I don't We have got to have stronger gun control laws in this country we need new and stronger gun laws now there is no reason to wait There've been too many shootings in this country where we've done nothing we won't do nothing again as a mom I demand action Boo hoo Okay let me stop you here couple of things

2:33:32 No kid should react this way unless obviously the dinner table talk is about this constantly and she has scared her own child to death. And you're letting the kid go to the Batman movie, I mean please! So this is, this woman's got an issue. I'm reminded there was an ad that floating around the Bay Area just a it's a strange add it's a woman saying we you know she selling some sort of program so you can get your kids to stop back talking and behave And she starts by describing her own child going berserk Apparently having these huge tantrums and couldn't he's completely out of control then she says I'm a psychologist She's the psychologist who let her own kid go out of control now. She's got some program There's this is the problem this these women well hold on hold on hold on John you don't have the complete story So I'm seeing this woman like I know that talking about that one we talk about Shannon Watts um yeah, Shannon Watts

2:34:31 There's a story behind her. So I'm Isaac, I know this woman. I've seen this woman before She used to be Shannon Troughton t-r-o-u ght on And but if you find and by the way the women The moms demand action for gun sense it's the whole thing common sense regulation It's everything it's the entire talking point common sense gunsense got guns okay? She is the founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a national organization dedicated to creating action on common sense gun laws at state and federal levels. Former founder and president of Vox Pop Public Relations, a public relations agency focused on enhancing the value and reputation of individuals companies and organizations

2:35:18 Formerly, she led communications for the country's largest health insurance medical device and agricultural companies. Which company would that be John do you think? That's where I remembered her from. Monsanto! Exactly She was the spokeswoman for Monsanto For GE Healthcare She worked at Fleischhardt Hillard Hello One of the biggest Yeah Fleischman-Hillard So she has been hired She has been hired to create this group and this is what happened. I saw it happen before my eyes, this girl woman she's a little younger than i am...I saw her realizing that she's been had

2:36:01 She's been brought in and of course she is angry. Everyone is angry, people are angry. She's angry about whatever happens or whatever you think happens that children are getting killed and we're getting killed... And all this stuff has happened... Even though all the numbers were down by the way but go on But you can't reason with her on that she had been programmed! I felt so bad for her! Let me try to work together here let me help you out Because you're going to get screwed in this deal. First of all, let's talk about the Second Amendment for a second because I was going to ask do you know what it really says? It said because the fight is coming down to the Second Amendment pretty soon and you better know what it says Of course I wanted her to say well its right to bear arms she started saying that but it doesn't really say that

2:36:51 I said, but she said it's a living document. Oh my God! Oh girl you are in so much trouble with this. You have to be careful because you're going to get hurt because you're being used. You've been programmed...I wasn't exactly saying it like this because this is where Mickey sees out of the box. Mickey's like all right Adam stop we We're going home. So I come home and see the same outfit on C-SPAN, and what they've done is taken parents and some older siblings from the Newtown kids

2:37:39 They go out there with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, and they all roll out in front of the house. And they do this... Friday is the 6-month anniversary of the shootings in Newtown Connecticut In Washington today some of the families of victims and a group of lawmakers talked about reducing gun violence This is 40 Minutes The following people were killed on December 14th due to gun violence. Charlotte Bacon, age 6 Olivia Engle, age 6 Anna Marquez-Green, age 6 Dylan Hockley, age 6

2:38:24 Madeline Seuss, age 6. So you kind of get the idea of what's going on here right? It's like so they are literally taking these...they're abusing these names once again and they do this continuously and they did this all over Washington DC I'm like you know what so that's a six-month list let me give you a list for a second okay For all you people who think it's... yeah, is it horrible that children got killed? Maybe. I don't know what happened. You know maybe be more effective if you show what really happened or release some of the records but okay then your too traumatized to do that let me give you a list from the past two weeks

2:39:02 Staff Sergeant Jesse L. Thomas, Jr., 31 Lt. Col. Todd J. Clark, 40 Edmund Mills, NY Maj. Jamie E. Leonard, 39 Warwick, NY 2nd Lt. Justin L. Sisson, 23 Phoenix, AZ Specialist Robert A. Pierce, 20 Panama, OK Warrant Officer Sean W. Mullen, 39 Dover, D Private First Class Mariano M. Ramundo, 21 of Houston Texas Specialist Ray A. Ramirez 20 of Sacramento California Specialist Kyle P. Stocchili, 21 of Mostly Virginia Staff Sergeant Job M. Raghu 30 of Austin Texas Where's that list? These are people who are dying in Afghanistan for no fucking reason That's a list you should read once in awhile! That's two weeks

2:39:51 No, instead Nancy Pelosi has the gall after that to say this. As far as I'm concerned we've never ever had a better speaker than Nancy Pelosi Thank you very much Mr. Leader Thank you Mr. Leader for your generous introduction but really more importantly for your very strong words of commitment to making sure that we honor our oath of office to protect and defend the American people You don't protect and defend the American people. These poor kids, these 20- and 30-year olds are sent away to pretend to protect some kind of fricking interest over there in Afghanistan And you have the gall to stand there and say that you took that oath of office which is not your oath at all It is to protect and uphold the Constitution Not to protect the American people. You should be ashamed of yourself

2:40:49 and of the way you've manipulated all these well-intended mothers and women of America into following your insane agenda just to get more votes, because that is the ugly vicious truth of what you're really doing. Do I get to play it? Yeah! You might as well. Here's a funny... there's this mom's demand action thing because there's certain laziness to this group based on somebody being in PR too long. They have a web page, the Demand Common Sense Gun Laws demand action page and they have like you select a member of Congress and then you select one of them canned messages and there appears to be about 15 of them and then you click on that and it will tweet it

2:41:42 Yeah, yeah. Exactly! With the hashtag vote gun sense and I suppose that your representative if it's if you're represented as a complete idiot won't notice that these are canned and they all every one of them starts with fact. A really good fact says 1982 there have been 62 mass shootings in the US seven were in 2012 alone Hashtag vote gun sensed Fact gun related deaths are projected to surpass automobile Automobile deaths, it says a dash. Automobile related deaths in 2015? I don't think so! I don't think that's true and i think that's a fact now I don't think its effect not even close no back the accidental gun death rate is 10x higher in the US than any other developed country The accidental gun death rate okay well it's possible fact eight children die from guns each day an American

2:42:38 fact more preschool 20s no now this says 2007 fact more preschoolers were killed by guns and police officers in the line of duty okay well anyway you get the idea these are all these factoids but it's been you know what I mean yeah a fact but this is what is so I really met and this is like this is what really hurt. I met someone who has been completely and utterly brainwashed, She knew it, she knew what she was doing. Oh she was all in? She was all in but her body and this is why its so incredibly unhealthy and why this show is good and even I need to just scream and yell once in a while because you need to get this out

2:43:23 It's so unhealthy for someone to be so locked into that mentality. This exclusionary, you know Republicans are the... Exclusionary hate Bill? Hate John! Hate? And the liberal side of the equation is supposed to be this loving side but there are hate hate hate It's completely hateful. And it is really very unhealthy, people really got to get a grip on that. You can't have contradictory thoughts in your brain that doesn't make sense. And Mickey was talking to her somewhere in the middle of somewhere where I just backed away and you know Mickey says well how do you talk to people that are like this? We don't talk to them but we don't talk no no we don't talk to fives or fours or threes now we only talked to people who are reasonable yeah

2:44:08 But then Mickey's like, well I think it would be fascinating if there was some guy that actually said, I want to get that nigger in the White House shoot him put a cap on his ass. That would be the guy I want to talk to and she said and that's literally how they were talking. And she's not... It wouldn't surprise me by the way whether there are some guys who talk like that? No no, that women were like you know she has got issues this is as she have children is she married what's the deal Yeah, she has a child. Of course she has issues but John I think what i'm saying is the women the moms of America have issues big ones they've been so sickened by media and it's been thrown into their heads over and over again now you're seeing the result of it and we have to save these women! I am not angry at her really not but wow... It seems like a lot of work

2:45:05 I And by the way, the way I know that she knew that I was on to her. She said you can't mention me. I speak on behalf of myself. You know, I'm not speaking as a representative of the organization and so she's very worried because that's like a militaristic organization somehow where you can't Oh yeah but if anyone is not a one or two whatever it is Yeah you're talking to a four or five what you are Or no you don't want the president killed So your'e not a five your'e a four

2:45:49 Right. And so you're being a four, right? You can't be talking to the president may live and which is I believe there are no fives. I don't never I've never done doing that what they're talking about. I suppose some idiots out there on MSNBC That's where I hear it all the time Yeah well They're the ones who propagate them eat so but she had a bumper sticker and a pin that said Obama 2012 Hillary 2016. I'm like, please! I want to buy one of these bumper stickers. Did you get a picture of it? No she wouldn't let me take a picture She said you're just gonna mock me. I said...I WANT Hillary Clinton to be president. Money in the bank for this show It's my dream My partner's middle name is Cash Are you kidding me?! This is- I really really want it because the promise is there'll be no more war She won't send kids to war I've wanted- I believe it. I'm a believer

2:46:41 And she's like, you're an insincere asshole. I'm like maybe but no she wouldn't let me take a picture Wow talk about paranoid weirdo So but anyway i feel so just to wrap it up yeah you say it's a lot of work um I hope somehow and I don't know if I don't know if it can be done But if you encounter one of these people I think it is your American duty and i can only speak about america know where this is happening everywhere i'm sure one form of the other but in america it is your duty to cryin healthy so no i said say punch them don't get that put him in the face hit him in the mouth word counts high-end i think they're lost causes personal home but then you just all that polosi stuff made me insane insane you know when we refuse refused to

2:47:38 We're sending children to get blown to bits for mineral extraction, for gas companies and pipelines. And we don't even pretend to honor them! No? Now we have to keep rolling out the names of kids that were shot by some moron, we think... It's so wrong it's all upside down. Okay okay, we're done. Play the pa- oh you already did that. Let's change the topic a little bit because I want to get a couple clips out of the way before this show ends that had to do with, there is one

2:48:19 that we've got, I realized after clipping this and i don't have the beginning of this clip but there is a secret agency within the FBI that has classified it. Louie Gohmert was on to this and he was all over it And I want to play the beginning of this clip then I'm going to interrupt the clip then mention what he then discussed because this is a clip where he goes after Mueller in one of the hearings and Louie Gohmert is, of course that character from Texas who's always usually entertaining but he's really irked in this particular hearing. You feel? I will look at that. And also I want to go back to Boston you said things like, and I've jotted these down what you said did FBI did an excellent job, did a thorough job don't know what else we could have done and according to the Russians there was a great deal more

2:49:08 could have been done and when we find out about this uh... this sensitive operations review committee and as this article points out if it's true it says that we don't know who the chairman and members are of the sensitive operations review committee, who is staffed. That's kept secret The FBI never canvassed Boston Moss until four days after the April 15th- Okay stop stop stop Yeah I saw this This a good one yeah So I, after listening to this the special operations review committee is something that needs to be discussed and it's classified.

2:49:45 They, like he's, Gohmert said and he asked them over and he says why is this classified? It's just a committee that overlooks what. Why is it classified we don't know any of the people that are involved in this And I'm beginning to think that this is the committee that was orchestrating what happened in Boston! And there was just an avoidance behavior. Then they said then so why is it classified then Gohmert was irked about this and he went on and on about why this is classified grilling Mueller about why they didn't go to the mosque that these guys are attending and investigate it right after or before the shootings. And Mueller does have this one weird excuse, which is oh we had an outreach program months earlier which is bullcrap! That means somebody visited the place in Planet of Bugs. It's exactly what he says.

2:50:28 If the Russians tell you that someone has been radicalized and you go check and see the mosque that they went to, then you get the articles of incorporation as I have for the group created the Boston mosque where these Tsarnevs attended and you find out the name Alamoudi, which you'll remember because while your FBI director this man who was so helpful to the Clinton administration with so many big things he gets arrested at Dulles Airport by the FBI and he's now doing over 20 years for supporting terrorism. This is the guy that started the mosque where your Tsarnevs were attending, and you didn't even bother to go check about the mosque? And then when you have the pictures why did no one go to the mosque and say who are these guys they attend may attend here why was that not done since such a thorough job was done? Your facts are not all

2:51:30 altogether well. Point out specifically, point out specifically sir if you're going to call me a liar you need to point out specifically where any facts are wrong We went to the mosque. Prior to Boston prior to Boston. Prior to Boston happening, we were in that mosque talking to imams several months beforehand as part of our outreach efforts. Were you aware that those mosques were started by Alamoudi? I've answered the question sir You didn't answer the question where you're aware they were started by Alamoudi...you are not okay thank you.

2:52:10 Mueller but Mueller's done. He's out he doesn't have to worry about this crap, and he said get that look on his face like screw you Whatever I got one more Mueller one That's even better not quite as angry But it stems from a couple of things that that that one of our favorite congressman Cummings Cummins Said he was on the IRS is an IRS thing and he was on the IRS situation uh He went ballistic in the congressional hearings and this is the Cummings number one clip and then I think somebody from the White House called him until it told him to stop it. You know, I go back and I could not every time I would watch these videos at three o'clock this morning you know I said to myself so now this is appalling but you know what really got me when I walked out that door? To come to Washington and just see my constituents who get their early bus

2:53:08 the ones that go down to the Sheridan Hotel in downtown Baltimore and clean the floors, them. And I thought about the man who came to me the other day because he had just gotten a letter from the IRS about an audit. And I believe deep in my heart... He didn't mind being audited. He was scared as all get out but he wants to know that he's been treated fairly and he wants to know—and these are the words that I'm going to concentrate on today— The other day I concentrated on truth Yeah. It ends there. Yeah, it's fine because it just gonna go on he just he's on a rant so the next day goes on Candy Crowley and here is what he says. Thank you and that as far as your concerned based on the information that you now have which in its totality is greater than ours Is this case over? Have you solved the case of the IRS and how this came to be Based upon everything I've seen the cases solve

2:54:21 And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on to be frank with you. So he changed his tune a little bit. Whoops! Yeah, it's all over nothing to see here move on carry on folks that we're all good and so Jim Jordan who is in the area is in Ohio and all the Ohio congressmen are just completely being you know bedeviled by because a lot of this happened out of the Cincinnati office even though seems to stem from Washington DC. So he goes after Mueller and uses the Cummings commentary to use it as a basis so play clip Jordan attacks Mueller one Mr. Cummings accurate in his assessment? Could you repeat that if you wish? Based on everything I've seen quoting mr. cummings the case is solved this is regarding an IRS scandal which case? The IRS scandal The IRS case

2:55:14 The IRS case is currently under investigation and basically it just started. What can you tell us? I mean, you started a month ago what can you tell us about this have you found any... Have you found the now infamous two rogue agents have you discovered who those people are? Needless to say because it's under investigation I can't give out anything Can you tell me some basics how many agent investigators you've assigned to the case? May be able to do that but I'd have to get back to you Tell me who the lead investigator is So I just interrupt because I saw this and actually, I didn't clip this and i'm wondering why Do you just hate this Mueller so much? No! I just think it's fun to watch. There are occasionally some guys in Congress now that Mueller didn't care, he was sitting there with this glib look... But this to me was a big show, its like Mueller doesn't care and this guy is getting points. I thought this actually had to be pretty low Yeah, he probably was but I liked his passion It was fun This most important issue of the country, the last six weeks You don't know who heading up the case Who the lead investigator is

2:56:18 at this juncture no I do not know who the other... Can you get that information to us we'd like to know how many people you've assigned to look into this situation. I have not had a recent briefing on it, i had a briefing on when we first initiated but I have not had a recent briefing as to where we are. So you don't know who's leading the case? I do not know who is the lead agent. Do you know if you've talked to any of the victims? Have you talked to any of the groups who were targeted by their government, have you met with any of the Tea Party folks since May 14th 2013? I don't care about folks! I don't know what the status of the interviews are by... or the team that's on it Would you expect that that has been done? Uh.. there

2:56:54 uh... yeah i'd certainly at some point in time of course the investigation will be done but generally at the outset and investigation you get to document so that she can have a really don't normally talk to me not know specifically what is your extensive record and and history investigative work don't typically talk to the victim is a criminal investigation they took the top two victims are usually said No, you've got to keep playing this and I'll tell you what you overlooked on this. Okay. I didn't realize until I listened to this Jordan character going on and on against Mueller that during this... it's like oh it was just an accident so what's the big deal? When these IRS guys were going in to visit people, the FBI would go with them next day! And it was just a out-and-out government intimidation Yes

2:57:44 This is correct. Yeah, well play the rest of that clip and then play the next one and we'll be out of here So did did the FBI contact any of these same victims were they contacted by the FBI? Prior to the investigation when these same groups were applying for tax-exempt status Did the FBI pay some of these individuals a visit I do not know pardon I do not know. You don't know? Some of them testified that they were paid a visit by the FBI, specifically Catherine Engelbrecht in Texas said she was visited by the FBI and she was head of True to Vote Is that true or not? Do you not know? If the FBI did contact people involved in the IRS scandal victims groups prior to the investigation when they were applying for tax exempt status why would you be looking into it

2:58:34 or possibly coordination with the IRS and why you targeted them? You're asking me details about the investigation. I'd be happy to get back... I'm not asking you details about the investigation, I'm saying why were people targeted before the investigation started? Why were they contacted by the FBI, people who are now part of Tea Party groups who were targeted by the IRS? You're asking questions about details of the investigation. That is not a detail about an investigation that took place prior to the investigation starting! May I please finish? You're asking detailed questions about the investigation. I'd be happy to get back to you and answer those questions that I can, understanding ongoing... I'm asking basic questions about the investigation like who's heading it up? And you can't tell me that! Can you get back to me on any group who was targeted by the IRS or the FBI visited with prior to the investigation starting while they were applying for tax? That would be important information for this committee to have

2:59:27 Can you get that to me? We'll look at the questions and try to respond. Have you reviewed the Inspector General's report regarding the IRS scandal? I have been through it, yes Do you have any concerns about the way the Inspector General did the report and collected information I did not focus on that at all. Well let me ask you a couple things, is it typically appropriate for the investigator to have one of the central players in this Ms. Holly Paz who was director of one of the key players in the Tax Exempt Division set in on all the interviews almost all the interviews with employees in that division? Is that typically how an investigation is done?

3:00:05 I'm not familiar with those circumstances. So, I understand what you're saying about those circumstances so... Not being familiar with it, I can't- And your- and your- Just goes on! And of course, you're right he's just saying eh whatever. I'm outta here, short timer Now one last one There was a guy named Ha- You saw this since you saw the whole thing Did you see that old guy Gobble? Whatever his name is Gobble? Gobbles?! Is really old, old, OLD GUY that was talking to him about Benghazi. And I didn't clip the whole thing, just clipped the end of it. Bobble? It's gobble or gobble or bobble or something... Howard. Yeah. I think it's Gob- Gob- Gobble G O B L E Okay. and the guy is a wreck he has his hair falling out He got boils all over his face. He looks like he's 100. And uh.. I just thought they've got the biggest kick out of this last bit commentary right here

3:01:04 I'm sorry. Has this put a damper on our ability to pursue leads and our suspects? Well, you don't know what you don't know what you may have missed. Uh...I can tell you that the investigation is ongoing we've had some success that i cant get into today uh but it's a very difficult operating environment not just at the scenes itself but obtaining of cooperation witnesses and others who may have information relating to my time's about out Mr. Miller This Mid-Gosney tragedy still hangs in my crawl. I'm not directing this at you, but I'm directing it to somebody we've we still don't know all the facts. I don't suggest there's a cover up but it has the trappings of a coverup and I repeat it hangs in my crawl as my late granddaddy used to say makes me coffee taste bad every morning But we'll see what happens thank you for being with us. I thought that was it

3:02:01 Oh man. It's in my craw, it has the trappings of a cover-up! There is an old guy he has seen this before You gotta love it Anyway So we listen to C-SPAN so you don't have to And I think we do a damn good job of it John We dig up a lot of stuff At least the public is getting something and its like when you play stuff from a congressional hearing and its really revealing certain things The news media doesn't cover any of it They don't care And now they're getting rid of the only possibly somewhat objective operation, the News Hour? Yeah. Isn't that twisted? It's totally twisted! I mean how much crap do they want to feed the public?! At least people who watch that show got some balance... Well i think you know good riddance to them because if they feel that they took the money from the devil,

3:03:00 Bill and Melinda Gates, and you know the Lord giveth the Lord taketh. You know thought it was all from viewers like you Yeah exactly Exactly exactly I've got to go through all my clips. I'm good well yeah, you almost did get all of them didn't ya? Well i left a Keith Alexander one out which is slightly not you can keep that one up well We're way over time but that means we'll have plenty to talk about as I am sure I will come under attack from The mothers of America. Moms hate me! That can be my new slogan Hey, moms hate me Yeah Oh there you go Und so is it mein Freunde Thank you very much Happy Father's Day to y'all I see my daughter tweeted me And she says At least i'm not adopted Oh there ya go It's her version Of loving me on the bogartive holiday of fathers day We've educated her too well

3:04:16 Alright John. Thank you very much good hanging out with you as always my daughter made me a mug Oh nice out of clay yes, I'm scratch oh that's sweet Well my daughter lives too far away to do stuff like that. She didn't bail it so yeah alright She's making me a painting of a faceless nun. Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state where we have The Republic Of Texas Motorcycle Rally I'll be out there on South Congress later today in the morning, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we've got nothing going on i'm John C Dvorak We will be back again on Thursday right here on The Best Podcast In The Universe known as the No Agenda Show. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n-a