Episode 486 · Sunday, 10 February 2013

Bondpocalypse

A fugitive officer's manifesto triggers a crisis at the LAPD while global banks brace for a bond market collapse and the NDAA threatens indefinite detention for journalists.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 486

About this episode

The manhunt for former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner exposes deep-seated institutional corruption as Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Police Chief Charlie Beck announce a reopening of Dorner's termination case. While the 16-page manifesto alleges systemic racism, skepticism remains regarding specific pro-gun-control passages that appear out of character for the fugitive. The search continues as the public debates whether Dorner is hiding in the mountains or in plain sight within the city.

In the financial sector, UBS is reclassifying conservative bond clients as aggressive investors to shield the bank from liability during a predicted Bondpocalypse. Meanwhile, Special Inspector General Christie Romero reports that over 120 individuals have been criminally charged under SIGTARP, debunking the media meme that no bankers have faced prosecution since the 2008 crisis. In Washington, journalist Chris Hedges challenges Section 1021 of the NDAA in court, warning that the law allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens and journalists who interview groups on the State Department's terrorism list. Additional scrutiny falls on the Benghazi investigation as General Martin Dempsey and Hillary Clinton face questions regarding the lack of military support during the seven-hour assault on the CIA annex.

This episode features a knighting ceremony for Dame Heidi of Bulgaria and a look at the Third International Hollywoodism Conference in Tehran attended by William Rodriguez. The hosts also explore the social etiquette of urinating in the shower and the bizarre discovery that TSA agents at Bay Area airports will accept a Costco card as a valid form of identification. Producers David Foley and Thomas Pouillard provide the value for value support to keep the stream running.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Grammy Awards, Whitney Houston Death Anniversary

The hosts discuss the upcoming Grammy Awards in Austin, Texas, and the anniversary of Whitney Houston's death. They speculate on potential "Illuminati sacrifices" within the music industry and mention Clive Davis's annual pre-Grammy party.

grammy awards· whitney houston· clive davis· illuminati· music industry

00:00 Where's my book? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday February 10th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 486 This is no agenda The Illuminati music sacrifices tonight in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley without further ado I am John C. Dvorak Craig Vaughan buzzkill Nailed it! That's right, baby. Tonight... Illuminati sacrifices! I can't wait! What's going on? At the Grammys

00:39 Oh the Grammys, oh God thanks for reminding me. Was it one year ago already that Whitney Houston died? Was that a year ago already?! You gotta be kidding me! I thought it was two years ago. No, that's horrible. Are you sure? Yeah. Sure it was a year ago not two years ago? No! Are you absolutely sure? No I'm not absolutely sure. To the point where you put money on it? Yeah I'll put money on it. It was 1 year ago. Well you looked it up... No! It was 1 year ago But you know the... Who dies this year? That's what we're doing. I think we are too late, I mean he was supposed to die during Clive's party that was last night so it is too late for him dying but.. We don't know they may find a body in the basement or something here. Here is homework everyone has homework

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Political Activism in Award Shows, Michael Moore

A discussion regarding the lack of political dissent in modern live award shows compared to past events. Reference is made to Michael Moore's 2003 Oscar speech and the shift in Hollywood's political alignment from the Bush administration to the Obama administration.

michael moore· award shows· george w. bush· barack obama· hollywood

01:25 Of course, the Grammys will come on after the show and I always appreciate it. I like watching the Grammys. Whatever happened remember when live award shows were exciting? And they were exciting really for one reason because you'd wait for who's gonna be this year who is the guy that's going to say Hey, stop this lunacy. Stop killing people! Let's just stop this craziness and we'll call out political leaders." That never happens anymore ever. The last time it happened was with Michael Moore. That's right and how long ago was that? Because he still is kind of an initiate

02:05 He was banned from ever winning another award, although it's unspoken. And they started to say no during the Bush administration just crack down on this crap and now we have Obama in who is supported by Hollywood. You mean George W. Obama? George Obama! I like that George... well then maybe we should do George Obama you know it's funny um... How about George Woe-Bama? that Malcolm X's, I think it was let me just see. Was it his grandson? I think hold on... Was on his way to Tehran. No crap how come I can't find this he was on his way to Tehran for there's this conference apparently and here I got it here and this is like the third or fourth year they're holding this conference

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Monitor Focal Points, Custom Computer Glasses

An aside regarding the difficulty of finding the correct focal point for computer monitors while wearing glasses. Suggestions are made for obtaining custom-made glasses specifically for monitor distances rather than standard driving or reading prescriptions.

optometrist· focal point· computer monitors· bifocals· vision

03:03 And what is it called here? It is the... You know, ever since I stopped smoking like I really can't see anymore with my glasses. This is a real problem. I have an idea! Get new glasses? Yes Well its.. Its like this one there's a focal point I don't think that'll work because you know the problem is with the monitors The monitors, you know there's a certain comfortable distance for monitor. I'm sure you have an opinion on this and this comfortable distance for the monitor is no longer within the focal point from my eyes it right outside the range with the glasses but it also outside the range without the glasses because I am near-sighted so that you know to my near sightednesses I have to get too close to the monitor for actually be comfortable or healthy probably You what I mean? I know exactly what you mean So

03:59 Just get new glasses. I don't think it's that simple. No, you can get glasses specifically... tell your optometrist or ophthalmologist or whatever you want. Whatever advertising, I don't care what you call it. Obstetrician Tell him that you need to wear glasses that will see a monitor at whatever comfortable, say it's three feet usually what most people seem to like. Three feet? No! I'm like two feet maybe tops Two feet why don't just stick your nose on the monitor Well...I might have too Okay say you'd like two feet mm-hmm Whatever the case is they'll make a pair of glasses specifically for your monitor

04:39 But will it work for driving then? No. Yeah, see this is the problem that I have to have different glasses for a regular shot Well you can get bifocals and look like an old fart. You can do that but I would suspect that there's maybe correcting ones these crazy ones that change or something when you move around yeah I don't even know how they work Do you think that really works? Do you think thats real? Yeah because i tried them at one of these trade shows They changed a real cool thing somehow. I think they did bend or the get point LC. They got something going on inside I actually was gonna write about it and follow up and learn something about the technology that just dropped the ball You mean basically get some free glasses is that what you're saying? That's that's usually your Oprah out your oil would probably

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Hollywoodism Conference in Tehran, William Rodriguez

The Third International Hollywoodism Conference in Tehran, Iran, is examined, focusing on its critique of the U.S. film industry's cultural influence. The segment highlights the attendance of William Rodriguez, a former World Trade Center janitor, and the FBI's arrest of Malcolm X's grandson while he was en route to the event.

tehran· iran· hollywoodism· william rodriguez· 9/11· fbi

05:20 probably methodology for doing that but I never dropped the ball is just like you know i haven't got time for this alright so this isn't going on right now it is indeed the third the third international hollywoodism conference in Tehran Iran have you ever heard of this now I know they have a lot of strange conferences in Tehran but I never heard of the Hollywood-ism yeah and uh... the there's a lot of Hollywood people are there so they get the FBI Well, I'm going to hit the play button in a minute. The FBI arrested Malcolm X's grandson who was on his way to Iran...

06:01 Just as an American to go to Iran. I'm not sure it can't just go Can you do you have to? I think it's one of the bad yeah, I think if your journalist You can go right right But I don't think I think he thought that State Department I think but I think you could still get in there If you go around about all right so here is from press TVs of course this is a Iranian TV Which is no propaganda but there's nice little symposium and they have their the guy these The janitor from the World Trade Center, remember this guy's story? Rosie O'Donnell was hyping him for a little bit. He is the janitor from the World Trade Center who heard the explosions from the garage, went down there saw people coming up all blown to shreds from the explosions in the garage during 9-11 which of course was only airplanes hijacked by dudes with box cutters

06:57 And this guy, you know... I thought he was dead quite honestly. I had no idea and he might as well be dead but he shows up- Who's dead? This guy! This janitor who has this unbelievable story about bombs on 9 11 that no one will take him seriously A lot of people apparently take him seriously Yeah, but not even when you say no one. You're just talking about what the media mainstream media manor yeah? Yeah like officials Officials okay different okay yes I take him seriously of course I take him seriously Hollywood discussed and dissected But from a very different angle intellectuals from around the world wrapped up before they conference on hollywoodism hold on a second intellectuals from around the world John did you check your mail

07:44 I may have gotten by maybe in the spam. It's in the spam filter robot talking by the way, I don't know This is a third year that Iran is holding this forum to address the massive impact of the US film industry on popular culture and political attitudes By the way as conferences go I'm looking at the video They need help Really need help it looks so boring and you know and they end the tables are into u-shape This is so wrong. This is not how you do a conference people. Participants believe they can make a difference A march of 1,000 miles begins with a single step and this is a former Marine Corps officer We're making multiple steps here I believe it's important in terms of dealing with the international and all pervasive influence of Hollywood a conference like this

08:36 a major development and I'm very glad to be here and to be dealing with many others who are of similar mind. Ten separate meetings were held as participants took turns to express their views on how Hollywood propagates certain ideas through its productions. Okay, so here's the janitor guy he's...I guess he actually had a little PowerPoint presentation looks like. Oh please! A janitor with PowerPoint? Has the world sunk that low?! How they manipulate an image, how they don't allow the certain truth to come out. The reason that I'm here mainly also is because my story...I am the last survivor of the World Trade Center and my story was edited and manipulated by the media in United States They didn't want my story to come out

09:23 Meanwhile, the role of independent media was highlighted. unfortunately now we see some woman in a burka. Speaking French! It's important for us to care the effects of Hollywood and its products with all the satellite channels... We don't care lady, how is this guy the last survivor of the world trade collapse? William Rodriguez is his name he has a very interesting story yeah including that he's the last survivor yes well

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Mullah Marriage in Amsterdam, Iranian Tourism

An anecdote describes a couple obtaining a religious blessing from a Mullah in Amsterdam to facilitate travel and shared accommodations in Iran. The story details the negotiation of a dowry involving a BMW 3-series.

amsterdam· mullah· iran· dowry· marriage

10:05 Come on, it's a translation thing. You know he means well. He means well! He got a free trip to Tehran by the way apparently a beautiful place for tourism seriously Well I know this because one of my good friends is married to...I'm sorry he's living with an Iranian girl and she goes back all the time And they went with her and they had a mullah Did i tell you that story? That he had a mullah marry them so that they could stay in the same room But you know how this goes, so you go to a Mullah in Amsterdam. To get the official blessing so they could actually stay because they went paperwork and so at a certain point the guy said you know the Mullah says all right um what is the wedding bounty? What do you call it

11:02 the uh... what are you gonna pay me dudes? no, no. The payment thing that's pretty clear what that is. The dowry exactly and he hadn't thought.. He was like oh crap well I just gave her a car and it was like all very good very cool kind of car BMW 3-series okay yes very good very good this is acceptable as a dowry a bmw three series two goats Anyway, someone who is not going to the Hollywoodism conference is Philip Marshall. I don't know if you heard about this. Philip Marshall former pilots he was a member of the organization... I'm a member of Pilots for 9-11 Truth dot org and but he's written a lot of books that have been published but all about 9-11

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Philip Marshall, 9/11 Author Suicide Theory

The death of Philip Marshall, a former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy author, is discussed following reports that he killed his children, his dog, and himself. Skepticism is expressed regarding the official suicide narrative, suggesting instead that he may have been targeted for his research.

philip marshall· 9/11 truth· suicide· assassination· murphy's law

11:57 and uh... this is a quite amazing story he has suicided himself his two kids and the dog and to me that's always socializing with a came into assassinated had to kill his dog first if that's i mean it's like we already know that he didn't kill himself do you really have to kill the dogs as they had to get in now you think that's not what was to get any of them reverse order but first issue today on the net when they Shot Weaver up there in the Idaho woods. They had to kill the dog and You're right Ransom killed a dog first Somehow let's go in there wipe out here all you got the damn kids are here well, we're gonna do I'm gonna kill him take them out He said usually don't kill the kids let me see what kind of dog it was oh

12:50 I mean, you look at this guy like, man this is not the kind of guy who's going to commit suicide. So what? He wrote one too many books or he got some documents probably was what happened to him which is what's gonna happen to you by the way Somebody sent him some documents. He shouldn't have had access to hey oh by the way that means you'll be out of his job I don't know if he's here a high-end tribute forever Keep on going like Yoko Ono me I can do clip shows for at least a year now get me at least out Of the whole even Yoko Ohno is just living off of me for in the next century it'll work

13:29 It's what Adam would have wanted. You misunderstood. Rehearse after me, repeat after me it's what Adam would have wanted. It's what Adam would've wanted the poor guy, poor bastard. Why did they have to kill the dog? So they killed the dog and then they kill everybody so this guy is probably that's my guess I mean yeah most people who are gonna kill their kids and then kill themselves if there unless they're nuts Yeah don't kill the dog And they usually wouldn't kill the dog. I mean, if they were depressed they're not going to be shooting up the place it doesn't make sense But this is the whole thing... Because he needed his kids Yeah but then just call them nuts you know? They just say nuts and that's how they explain it away This has CSS written all over what do you say? I don't know what CSS has ever done I think it could be something to scare the public We have some interesting clips here that we should get into

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Chris Hedges, NDAA Lawsuit Media Coverage

Journalist Chris Hedges filed a lawsuit against the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), resulting in a temporary injunction by Judge Katherine Forrest. The discussion notes that mainstream outlets like MSNBC and Fox News ignored the case, while Russia Today and The New York Times provided coverage.

chris hedges· ndaa· lawsuit· russia today· the new york times

14:22 Chris Hedges, you know sued the government on behalf of a couple lawyers that hired him. Who's Chris Hedges again? Chris Hedges is a writer and foreign correspondent who used to work for The New York Times very credible... Wait! Is this the guy who was on MSNBC?! He's not on MSNBC. No, he doesn't like MSNBC I don't think he's ever been on MSNBC All right Whatever the case and I have some clips that need to be listened to...he was part of a lawsuit against the NDAA Mm-hmm And he actually got an injunction against his use There are a number of very interesting things The only people who will cover this

15:02 and is Russia Today, and he just has a bunch of things to complain about. Now was his lawsuit... Was that the one that the ACLU was involved in as well? Where the judge came out and said well you know it's all legal what we're doing here but I can't tell you why because.. No no I don't think that's the same suit, because that is not the way this went down. This was not covered by anybody but The New York Times. Play the clip. Hedges NDAQ'd. That it won't harm the power interests that is serves so the NDA case was never mentioned on MSNBC because of the primary purpose of MSNBC was to reelect Barack Obama and the NDA case would not make Obama look good

15:48 It wasn't mentioned on Fox because this section of the NDA has bipartisan support. And it's interesting, I worked for The New York Times for 15 years that the only established news organization that responsibly covered the case was The New York Times and when Judge Forrest issued her ruling, The New York Times ran an editorial supporting her decision because the times still, I mean it's an elitist organization and I have my critiques of the Times but nevertheless it still understands what is news and what is not. But that for me was a kind of frightening moment because I realized how deteriorated our systems of information become. And he gets paid to figure this out all of sudden? Hello! Well apparently he didn't think... well you know he doesn't listen to our show

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

NDAA Section 1021, Indefinite Detention of Americans

An analysis of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) focuses on Section 1021, which allegedly allows for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens without trial. The Obama administration's aggressive legal fight to overturn Judge Forrest's injunction suggests the law may already be in use against dual nationals.

ndaa· section 1021· indefinite detention· barack obama· katherine forrest

16:42 I mean most people believe the way he does. That you know, you can get news if you actually go out and listen to Brian Williams He's going to talk about some of this stuff but nobody talked about this case But here is the one that... This is kind of an explanation for it The clip is this one And this one..I actually didn't even know that.... I took this clip and then it took me a couple listens before I realized what he was actually saying which was kinda frightening This is the killer clip It's a little long but its got It's kind of, it's very interesting to me. So I just do for people who are just tuning in the NDAA we do have

17:19 revisit once in a while, it's the National Defense Authorization Act. After we read the bill which we always do on this program We immediately identified that there were two main issues One you can kill Americans The president... not just the president The government can kill Americans without process because we're good at killing Americans even if you do get a trial especially in Texas and then the second part is that you can just be black bagged off the street and taken into indefinite detention. These are the main issues besides, you know, half a trillion dollars of funding for the war machine. In the Southern District Court in New York this was essentially not extending powers to the government but

18:06 reinforcing existing powers. Now, you know I've read the AUMF several times it's very clear that this is a vast extension of government authority allowing government to detain US citizens or use the military to detain us citizens strip them due process hold them in military facilities and definitely that is just not in the AUMF and i think that we're seeing a we just saw the release of uh... have a memo sixteen page white paper on drone attacks which looks like it was written by first-year law student admitted you know any i can't stand john you but at least he could write a coherent legal brief for the bush administration justifying torture and is wrong course but uh... uh... the amateur nish of this you know it's a clearly amateur

18:55 effort and i think it what we're seeing uh... in this case in this memo is an attempt by the obama administration to justify activities that they've already carried out which include the assassination of american citizens the yemeni cleric on war al-awaki his sixteen year old son two weeks later was not on anybody's terrorism list I think there's strong, um...I have a strong suspicion and the lawyers have a strong suspicion that they are already using section 1021 of the NDAA. Because when Judge Forrest issued her ruling in September the government attorneys on the day of the ruling went to Judge Forrest and asked for temporary stay meaning put this law back on the books until it is heard in the Second Circuit or the Appellate Court

19:48 Now, Judge Forrest refused. They then demanded an emergency hearing at 9 a.m., the next Monday morning at the Second Circuit which they got and they asked the judges on the Second Circuit in the name of national security to put this law back into effect to override Judge Forrest's injunction now the Second Circuit agreed we always knew that Obama administration would appeal that was not an issue We did not expect them to respond so aggressively. And I think that it's fair to conclude that they responded with that kind of aggressivity because they're already using the law, probably against US-Pakistani dual nationals in places like Bagram

20:35 If a judge for us, injunction was allowed to stand i.e the law was invalid and they were holding American citizens and denying them due process then of course they would be in contempt of court This is a steady march forward in terms of stripping away our most basic civil liberties. I would say the NDAA, this case is the last thin line of defense between what's left of our anemic democracy and our transformation into a military state So he should write a book, you know great I mean yeah He's saying of course. I heard well just so the judge by the way This is the judge who deemed the NDAA particularly section 1021 Unconstitutional and blah and was trying to block it that's that's the now I know what she did yes but they raced back then

21:31 claims that they race back with such ferocity because they already have people. In other words, they have already locked up Americans in one form or another using the NDAA as an excuse? Yes! Although it's really nice that this New York Times elitist has figured it out... Duh! What I'm a mate the thing is the joke is, his only venue is this book that no one's gonna read and Russia Today. Yeah exactly exactly which means nobody has even quite there's not even one oh he brought this up at all then no MSNBC doesn't bring it up Fox doesn't bring it up

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Drone Program Justification, MSNBC and Newsweek Commentary

Media figures Crystal Ball and Eleanor Clift are critiqued for their defenses of the Obama administration's drone program. The commentary highlights their calls for a "drone court" similar to the FISA court to provide a veneer of judicial oversight for targeted killings.

drones· msnbc· newsweek· fisa court· targeted killing

22:19 Well, hold on then. All right then let me get right into it Here's here's what MSNBC is doing? Here's what PBS is doing now I get to play a couple clips Yeah, here we go Let's start first with oh, I don't know. Let's start with MSNBC now the narrative now Okay has changed so instead of like this guy Chris Hedges instead of saying hey you know we're on the edge of our democratic republic being completely turned into a military police state which by the way this I guess is what 15 years The New York Times, I guess it takes little longer to be birth and wake up woken up like hello Chris welcome to the universe.

23:06 So instead of discussing that, no we're going to propagate something that we already identified. And here it is... We only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative. So first let me get a few things out of the way on drones in general I think drones can be a useful and effective tool of war. If there's bad guy, senior leader of Al-Qaeda let say... Hey! Let say that there is a bad guy? He is like leader of al Qaeda? We should build the drone then don't you think so John? I think we should built the drone then. This is this is the entire it's okay motion and most Americans agree with it. This is what it is. You can take out with the drone strike

23:46 I say we do it. I am however bothered by the secrecy lack of transparency And this is the next piece as long as it's just like the FISA courts Okay, as long as we have a special judge who could look at it and say all in secrecy obviously Yeah, I think you can drone that that American citizen then It's okay with these idiots and lack of oversight Of the drone program the process by which we determine targets should be detailed and codified codified. The people who are killed, civilian and militant should be public information or at least known by Congress so that we can study the overall impact of our drone policy on radicalizing civilian populations and there should be some sort of judicial branch oversight such as special courts or the threat of lawsuits after-the-fact perhaps. So to sum it up

24:33 I'm okay with drones in general, but not satisfied with the current way the program is being handled. Okay so we're doing pretty good on this... Doing pretty good on the drones. This is a great clip! Oh no wait it gets better. This woman? Who IS this woman?! Her name was Crystal Ball I know. Oh, not Crystal Ball! Yeah it's Crystal Ball. Oh God yeah, Crystal Ball she's a ditz. Well i'm gonna come back to her. And she on MSNBC and she is on with Touré alot. No, no I am going to come back to her because it gets better with her but first let us go to my other favorite Obama bot. By the way stop What kind of a fucking name is Crystal Ball? I know. It's like, it's like the worst DJ name in the world Hey! It's Bubba The Love Sponge here with Crystal Ball. I mean come on... T-the kids are like, and the parents are like, I know our last name is ball. I've got a great idea Let's call her crystal with a K So here's Eleanor

25:31 The douchette from Newsweek. On the McLaughlin group, which by the way when I die. I want you to take over that show you'd be perfect Because McLaughlin and I'll go at the same time No what's his signature thing he's always like WHEN WE COME BACK! All right so they so the main topic drones now What does Eleanor think first of all drones are here to stay they are the 21st century modern tool of war And in many ways they are a blessing. A blessing! They are a blessing, I tell you. Much better than bombers because they can be more effective and targeted than bomber planes just... The hubris of this woman is much better than bombs from planes It's a plane with a bomb Eleanor! Raining bombs down. Raining? Is raining bombs Hallelujah With an enemy that is harbored in various places

26:32 in countries where we are not at war with the country. It's the only way you can really get at them short of invading that country, which we did and discovered that isn't so hot." So I love this as she saying drones are good because we don't want to be like George Bush Because you know we don't want to invade a country because that's like George Bush, that would be really bad. No no we're just going to kill people from the air! I would say they are they are a blessing but they bring all sorts of ethical and moral concerns and there should be some sort of judicial review uh...and though for program that appears to be the most troubling is the one run by the CIA So do you hear this again? They want just like the FISA courts

27:16 Which is the warrantless wiretapping on Americans. They just want to have some judge somewhere go, oh yeah okay Yeah I know that's not a judge in the pocket of whoever yeah that seems like stamping stuff rubber stamp judge That's what he's gonna be let's face it and I can't have any judge saying no to anything really I mean give me A break why would they have it? I mean I mean what's the point there's so many and this thing and there's also kind of this She doesn't like the CIA is involvement for some reason so that this sounds like talking points because a crystal ball Yeah, if that is indeed her real name and Eleanor essentially said the same thing you want to hear more crystal ball Oh yeah Because do I have because now crystal ball is going to compare our president's great drone program To everything So she's gonna. Do it good and evil

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Crystal Ball, Obama vs Bush Drone Hypocrisy

MSNBC host Crystal Ball's monologue regarding drone policy is dissected, specifically her argument that trusting President Obama's judgment makes the program more acceptable than it was under George W. Bush. The hosts mock the partisan nature of her defense and her reading of the teleprompter.

crystal ball· msnbc· barack obama· george w. bush· drone policy

28:05 And this of course is good and everything else everyone does is evil. It was just astounding to me. There's something about this drone debate though that is driving me nuts That's obvious, that's obvious Crystal. And that is the charge mostly by Republicans that if you feel any different about the drone program under President Obama than you would have under George W Bush You are an utter hopeless hypocrite So this is... I was waiting for this because of course your and other hopeless hypocrite obviously So, you know now how are we going to explain this away? How are we going to say that if this when the drone program started under George W Bush only it's been accelerated to the nth degree by George W Obama. Why is the media so complacent and so happy with it? Let me ask you a question...how would you feel about a Madeline Albright panel on women in body image? What does that mean?

29:06 What kind of a weird insult was that? It gets better. Okay, now how do you feel about the Larry Flint panel on women and body image? How do you feel about your kid in Dr Ruth's sex ed class versus Todd Akins? Do you feel different about Warren Buffett penning standards for financial ethics verus Bernie Madoff of course you do because your normal but according to the republican logic used during this drone debate if you feel any different about madeline albright and larry flint panels, you are a hypocrite so i guess someone wrote this yes or someone wrote this she's having a hard time reading it. I don't even know she read it right no and and she's gonna...I want you listen to her stumble through the rest cause really is..she doesn't understand what he saying but someone wrote and essentially said well

29:52 You know, this is the difference. It's like Obama and Bush I guess is what they're saying Is like Bernie Madoff to Buffett Is like Madeline Albright fat ugly woman versus Larry Flint Fat Ugly Woman And it's like pornographer I guess he's bad I guess he's a horrible man because He publishes pornography and its not even porn Penthouse is not porn No, it's softcore. Yeah! It is... you know.. it's sexy. So what is her point? Well let's listen to some more maybe we'll understand the points. What she's trying to do as an interesting attempt to make a point but its really lame. Yeah gets lamer Look I voted for President Obama because I trust his values and his judgment And I believe that he's a fundamentally responsible actor Get on the train your first! Here ya go! He's an actor?! Yes!!

30:50 He's a responsible actor, John. She must be talking about the second Obama. Because I trust his values and his judgment and i believe that he is fundamentally responsible actor. He should have an academy award, I feel! A telly first on the train, crystal ball. Without gratuitously slamming next President Bush I think he displayed extraordinary lapses in judgment and executing his primary responsibility as commander-in-chief and put troops in harm's way imprudently. President Obama would have exercised better judgment and he has exercised better judgment

31:27 The way it stands now, the drone program is exclusively within the domain of the executive. Their protocol? Their judgment! So yeah I feel a whole lot better about the program when the decider so to speak is President Obama It's not to say that again the process shouldn't be codified That there shouldn't be oversight But really, is our standard so low that we would only grant powers to the executive that we would trust in the hands of a man who misled the nation into get us into war we never should have been involved in? What would George W. Bush do? That's our standard! We would never allow power to the presidency that we wouldn't feel comfortable giving to George W. Bush

32:06 I think we can raise the bar a bit from that. And just for a little perspective, let's keep in mind that the president does have the unilateral power to drop nuclear bombs and destroy the entire planet Do you feel the same about George W Bush having the nuclear codes as you do about President Obama? Call me a hypocrite, but I sure don't. You know, I don't mind that MSNBC has one true agenda. She should be ashamed of herself and general election should be ashamed of itself for having this... No she should not be ashamed she should be happy and proud! She did a great job she got through it without too many uhs or ah's

33:02 I think she did pretty good. She was a terrible read. It wasn't very good at all, it wasn't sincere. She sounds like a sorority girl from USC no offense to you USC listeners but you know what i'm talking about It's just horrible. Horrible, a horrible person and by the way that is an actual television term when we say yeah that was a horrible read That's literally how you say it in television Yeah that was a great read because most people on television are reading She's reading from a prompter I would assume Oh yeah she had a... I don't think she was reading from a sheet

33:41 She had a hard time getting through it. But so yes, the talking points are obvious but the only thing I need to point out and this is important because this is what's going to make you as an eavesdropper on this conversation feel much better This is going to come pounding at you continuously Most Americans agree. We like the drones, they're a blessing that's my favorite there are blessing Hey at least it's President Obama who's got his finger on the button and at least you know At least it's him he's responsible actor this is this is the pounding You're about to get so you can now immunize yourself and be prepared for the onslaught when its coming Mainly so that you as a no agenda producer or listener don't get incredibly pissed off

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Journalist Targeting, Section 1021 Risks

Chris Hedges warns that Section 1021 of the NDAA contains no exemptions for journalists, potentially allowing the state to label reporters as "fifth columnists" for interviewing groups on the State Department's terrorism list. He draws parallels to his experience covering conflicts in El Salvador and Nicaragua.

chris hedges· journalists· terrorism list· fifth columnist· free press

34:28 You know this is you have to Zen yourself because it's coming. It's gonna be really really big a lot of this is gonna be coming in from every which way Might as well wrap it up with my last, which is the journalist Hedges talks about that journalists are actually probably could be would be and they're definitely not exempt from being targeted by section 1021. Right? Well I Bruce and Carl lawyers approached me to be the plaintiff because as a foreign correspondent for 20 years I spent time we counted him up with either 17 individuals or groups that are on the State Department terrorism list including Al Qaeda

35:05 And there's no exemption in this provision for journalists. So I have literally sat in vehicles with Al Qaeda members who are now spending the rest of their lives in prison Number one, of course that means given the current state of drone attacks that could have been incinerated number two if I am printing as I was articles that present the viewpoint of groups that are deeply hostile to the United States. Have I substantially supported, this is the language of 1021, Al-Qaeda or Taliban or what they call associated forces? That's completely open to interpretation and people who have a kind of hostility

35:51 to the role of a free press, which is to prevent or present viewpoints that are inimical to our own certainly would not shrink from branding me as a fifth columnist or closet supporter of Al Qaeda. And I speak from experience. I covered the civil war in El Salvador and Nicaragua for five years during the Reagan administration And because we were traveling frequently with the FMLN rebels in El Salvador or the Sandinistas in the battle against the Contras of Nicaragua, We had numerous officials within Washington denouncing us as fifth columnists and supporters of terrorists. So I've already heard the rhetoric

36:29 I already know how it goes down. But this essentially goes beyond rhetoric and empowers the state not only to brand you linguistically a terrorist, but treat you legally as a terrorist. Yeah well hello and welcome the 2013 my friend! Do you have to go to Harvard to understand this stuff after 15 years of working at The New York Times that your screwed? That is where we are?! I think what's interesting is that he finally came to this conclusion after getting involved in this lawsuit which nobody covered. Well we certainly covered it! Nobody will cover, nobody is going to cover this, nobody is going to pay any attention with what this guy said, nobody is even gonna notice and they're just gonna go along on their merry way and people start disappearing. Yeah yeah... Hey what happened to Brian Williams?

37:23 How come he's not coming in? I called him at home, man. I called his cell and he wasn't picking up What am i supposed to do what are we gonna Do get the other guy in here get that crystal ball and let her take the banker She's on our side she's a good girl Hold on yeah Here's our president this is the only time that the press covered the drones I have two words for you Predator drones. That's right when it was about What band was it that he was threatening again with predator drones? Some big boys on the block or who knows The Backstreet Boys no, yes whatever Hey The only way in Nick the only way that you're gonna be safe from drones is when you are a celebrity judge You can be our celebrity judge

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Middle School Kill List, Zero Tolerance Policies

A 13-year-old student at Eatonville Middle School was disciplined for creating a "kill list" targeting ten other students. The discussion links this to broader zero-tolerance trends in schools, including the banning of bubble guns and the removal of traditional gun safety programs.

eatonville middle school· kill list· zero tolerance· gun safety· school discipline

38:13 That's how you that's all you'll be immune. You got to get on the game show buddy, that's how it's gonna go down meanwhile if you are a if you're a kid and If you are just you know muscling or mucking around and you make up a kill list of your own because that's what the president has. 6 38 p.m Around dinner time Friday night Eatonville Middle School administration All it took was a phone call Working on a discipline situation For parents to lose their appetite Today, a report of the threat was brought to the administration It was a recording by the Eatonville middle school principal informing them a student wrote a kill list targeting 10 others I think we need one too Kill List!

39:03 Oh, a kid! A five-year old. He's gonna kill us! And assuring parents like Crystal Nickra their kids were safe. Yeah it was scary but I think they covered it really well It's big news Such a small town you know The principal asked parents to keep their kids off social media They've just been mentioning here and there But many can't help it 13 year old boys don't have the best judgment in the world but our officer felt that that it was serious enough that we needed to follow through some thirty-year-old kid who's having issues because he is a teenager and hates a bunch of people including some girls wrote a kill list because it seemed like a good idea at the time cause it would be fun yeah and of course the president does it. Yeah, exactly. If the president doesn't why can I do it? I got that little drone model the predator drone off the Amazon site come on you need to kill this to go with that there has been a bunch of weird

39:58 News stories about these high school and middle school kids are going crazy. I know, i know And it's one to the other It says you know the kid got a little bubble gun that shoots soap bubbles and aimed at him Yeah well of course What happened in the days when they used to have rifle clubs I don't have to teach you so learn how to shoot they learned gun safety in high school which is a good time to learn gunsafety because that's when kids if they get a hold of the gun there and they handled they mishandle them and people accidentally gets shot yeah so gunsafety is a good thing to teach in schools but no we can't teach gunsafe because guns by definition are horrible now they're not this is what we do their only horrible in the wrong hands when they look scary

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Valentine's Day Gift, Art Piece Anecdote

A personal anecdote regarding a Valentine's Day gift received early during an office move. The hosts joke about the nature of the gift, described as a physical art piece, leading to a humorous exchange about romantic gestures.

valentine's day· gift· art· anecdote· humor

40:53 Yeah, it's uh... you know Miss Mickey is so sweet. You know she did something really sweet but at the same time very tricky She is cleaning out the office because we're moving in eight days and she finds like some note I wrote to her Was that a kill list she found? She found my kill list And she says, aww I love you so much that I'm gonna give your Valentine's gift now! I'm like what?! She bought me a... not only did she buy me a great gift, but now you know Now it's now I have to do something for Valentine's Day. It was a trick! Oh these women! It is so sweet and I love her so much But she tricked me! And of course like oh crap how many days do i have? Four? Three really Where'd she get ya

41:47 It's just it's a I'm not gonna tell you cuz you're only ridicule. It's it's a beautiful gift Is it up for ridicule is it? You know shy about telling me cuz you know, I'm gonna like laugh or I probably well Here's the deal. I will say nothing promise Promise I will say nothing. You know the reason why is because you are the most insensitive unromantic dude, I know huh yeah At least you does that your setup? No, but that's that's why I knew you would just ridicule my gift. I consider myself a normal male And this is what's wrong with America ladies and gentlemen. This is exactly it I'll take a picture of it, I'll show you later to be it's an art piece It's a beautiful art piece that she you can't describe our oh no. No it's not a photo Oh, it's uh You know she should take photos and give them those away. It's a physical. Uh it's a physical art pieces as a beautiful giant dildo

42:43 See? This is what I mean. This is exactly what I mean There's something romantic, there's something beautiful John's like... Dildo! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha There she actually drops the bomb at the end here, and I went and looked all this stuff up And I'll be darned if she's right read or play sig tark Sig

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

SIGTARP, Bankers Arrested for Fraud

Christie Romero, the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), reports that over 120 individuals have been criminally charged in relation to TARP investigations. The segment challenges the popular meme that no bankers have gone to jail since the 2008 financial crisis.

sigtarp· christie romero· bank of america· securities fraud· tarp

43:24 But here's what I'm going to recommend to you, Charles. One of the things that... in the earlier caller raises this one of the things is that you can start to track who we are investigating where there has been something public like a criminal charge and arrest someone who has actually been convicted and going to jail And we put out press releases on all those and i'll encourage you go our website www.SIGTARP.gov and look at that. And what you can do is, you can actually sign up to receive our press releases so that you can see each time we do this. Like I said 120 people have already been criminally charged as a result of our investigations

44:01 SIGTARP, Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program. And you go down to press releases there are tons, tons I'm telling you of bankers who have been arrested and are in jail and this has been going on for years since 2011! I've got a banker right here that's in jail. Wow! Why are we given the meme that no banker has gone to jail? Well, let's see. So February 1st we've sent the chairman of debt collection agency sentenced to five years in prison Yeah but he is not a banker there are bankers on this list when you go down the press releases there are all kinds of them Okay Former United Commercial Bank officials charged with securities fraud

44:49 Former Buffalo housing, unfortunately they got everybody in here so you have to separate the bankers. Wait a minute, so are they the ones that says... Former Colonial Bank Senior Vice President sentenced to 8 years in prison! Nice But the hell goes on and on so so I'm looking at this and she was on talking about what she does She's the inspector general. This is Chris Christie Romero Yeah, yeah, and she's talking about all that all did you mention? What 180 arrests It's like why is the meme and this for years why is the meme out there no bankers have ever gone to jail

45:25 You know, after the collapse. Now a lot of this wasn't because of the collapse This was because of TARP when they saved... But at the original TARP I think was during the collapse These there are bankers in jail Let's start with that I think what they would like to see is the guy that's ahead of Goldman Sachs in jail but That's not gonna happen Hey, Christie Romero is kind of cute Yeah she looks serious Well and one eye is a little uh lazy as a lazy eye It's looking a little off-center there She's kinda cute Yeah, well. I like my... You like your investigators to be cute? Yeah! I want it to be like you know CSI come on I wanted them to be hot looking okay but so she's also taking does she's also taking credit for the 1 billion dollar fine against the Bank of America is that also this outfit is she doing as well really interesting what's her about what's their story

46:19 She was actually in a bunch of different. She used to be she's been she's the government hack essentially Lifetime or she let's you know life that I think she's a lifer on a second You gotta take a look at me this is it? I'm surprised you don't already have a link ready for me about her does she have her own wiki entry yes, she does no she doesn't The hell is this she doesn't have her own page Well, she's not a big...she's not a pro- high profiler. Obviously we think there are no bankers that have ever been arrested and put in jail. The public relations aspect of SIGTARP is... I think this is... You know how every time there's some wire fraud that's done by computer hackers? This is known fact amongst the computer community especially the high end guys.

47:14 Every time there's like a breach and somebody steals like, you know 100 million dollars from the system and then gets away with it Yeah never gets publicized right? No because it will encourage people to You know take a look at the possibilities here I think this has been, purposely covered up not because it will scare bankers or keep people out of the business or make people look you know if you see all these bankers getting thrown in jail you'll think less... You have a not pleasant thoughts about your own banker. I think is as a complete reverse publicity stunt that took place right under our noses and nobody's picked up on it well but honestly you know it really it's not like they've done a great job

47:59 No, but it is ongoing. I mean by the time this is done there could be a thousand people thrown in the slammer and by the way... Oh never mind What? I was... What? I noticed that you didn't find this woman in Wikipedia but I think Crystal Ball is... Gee! I wasn't looking up Crystal Ball. I was looking at Miss Romero here she's very interesting she's very low-key Very low-key. So crystal ball? No, screw crystal ball I wanted the Crystal Romero is more my type. She's a businesswoman it says. Crystal Ball? Now i'm looking at... Maybe there's a... Here the Special Inspector General There must be some kind of... here we go! Special Inspector General nominated special... Prior to being sworn in she was positioned as Deputy Special Inspector Okay got it She served as Chief of Staff from July... okay what did she do before then

49:01 Oh, she was at the SEC. So she picks and chooses her targets? Come on John! She's no hero. I never said that she was. I'm just telling you there are bankers who have been arrested. That is my point. Yeah, there are bankers who have been arrested but only the guys who were troublemakers It's like play along with the game. There have been bankers who have been arrested and the meme is bankers have not been, no banker has gone to jail you saw the movies right at the end No banker has ever gone to jail Yeah this is incorrect That's what I'm pointing out I don't care about this woman she just another government hack that's what I said She a permanent, she's a lifer in the goverment She comes and goes from here to there whatever Okay so got it I am in agreement step back

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Media Memes, Financial Corruption Narratives

The hosts discuss why the "no bankers in jail" narrative persists despite SIGTARP's data, suggesting it serves to keep the public distracted. They criticize mainstream financial reporting and the lack of accessible data feeds for government oversight press releases.

matt taibbi· rolling stone· financial crisis· media manipulation· rss feed

49:46 So I don't like your analysis of why this is what i want to work on because near the movie, I saw the movie too. I thought the documentary was great thing that bothered me Matt Damon was doing the voiceover that to me right there says this cannot be a clean documentary. Well I would agree with that and then obviously he's an Obama bot. Yes so let's step back for second why is the meme being propagated? I'll tell you one part The media is stupid So that's gone. But the show has, our show establishes this Yes but that is why it was like no bankers going to jail ever! But how come Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone who is apparently the hero of revealing all that is wrong I think that it meant to keep us busy Keep our wheels spinning

50:37 And at the same time, you gotta throw some guys in jail. Because they were obviously... Even if you're on the bad side The mob kills their own all of the time It's like why take a risk? You got to off some guy. Why take a chance? You gotta off the guy once in awhile and just take care of some business But I think that this is one of these successful memes that was launched And the media just, they're stupid. It just shows you how lame it is all is crystal balls reading teleprompter That's what the news is So yeah well this a very good find

51:18 And do they have an RSS feed? Can we subscribe to their... I don't know, maybe. Let me try it! Go to this website you know it's one of those eight million dollar websites No no feed But every time they do anything they send out a press release and nobody apparently gives a crap because nobody picked up on any of these press releases Yeah but I want them see there is no fuck I can't believe there is no RSS feed Of their press releases You know Why can't we get a gig in DC? We'd be so good at just a couple of these things. Can you imagine the two of us consulting on this sort of thing in D.C., and what we turn into? Rich!

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

House of Cards, Netflix Binge-Watching Culture

The release of the Netflix series "House of Cards" is discussed as a disruptive moment for Hollywood. The hosts comment on the show's realistic depiction of Washington D.C. lobbying and the cultural shift toward binge-watching entire seasons in a single sitting.

house of cards· netflix· kevin spacey· binge watching· television

51:59 Well, yeah. Yeah, that was... Rich! Beyond our wildest dreams! It's true. But they again... Wait a minute wait a minute. Hey John I'm in the Maybach. Partial douchebags that would push us over the top. Listen John, listen John when i'm calling you from the mayback okay then we'll worry about what we've become made have you watched house of cards by the way are you familiar with this phenomenon about it I just all been released i have not downloaded an episode yet um is a netflix show yes yes I don't ever done and scott's kevin spacey was I guess one of the producers any decided to act in it so he could you know get somebody watch that thing let me tell you some Kevin Spacey I mean will Kevin Spacey interesting guy because he does all kinds if

52:49 Experimental stuff and I think this This show besides the fact that it's a very very well written show. Well produced. I'm totally into it I think Netflix is genius for releasing the whole series in one go screw it do whatever this is Definitely, so this is going to frighten Hollywood this stuff It really is. It's fantastic what is happening, of course the only problem is I'm still getting my internet through Time Warner cable that's problematic but it's really good genius but you need to see this because I think it depicts Washington with the lobbyists and dealing

53:33 that it is exactly what you would want to see from one of these political shows that you can't get from the compromised West Wing, Aaron Sorkin bull crap. was that HBO series with Jeff Daniels? That's all bull. This is a newsroom, the news room you know uh v-pitch it is bad this is all it's all this is I think this is really credible I mean it comes pretty close to just the A-hole crap that goes on has nothing to do with with the citizenry at all You should why you should give it a try now I'm not gonna I wasn't not going to give it a try! I intend to watch it yes

54:19 I just haven't got the Netflix thing working through this system. It's so complicated! The Netflix thing... You know, it's a lot of work. You know you can get, oh a wire! It requires a wire. Really John? What is it an antenna? What are you doing? No I gotta put plug in the Netflix...I gotta Roku box which I use or no actually i'm using a Wii U and the Netflix is running on that. And I don't actually have an account JC's got one. Mimi's got one. It's five dollars a month Who needs how many accounts does one family need we've got two

55:00 So I just haven't gotten around to it. I'm gonna watch the thing in its entirety That's so funny, or maybe I'll just watch two of them. It's like Portlandia Yeah, you don't have to watch the whole standing show but it's like two episodes You're done yeah But this is this is what's so great? Is you know you don't have to do a marathon you just watch one Or two and then you go back the next day when you feeling like it if you know You're drinking some of that moonshine. Apparently you've never sat down with any member of this particular family? No, that would be because... When they start one of these things we sit for 24 hours and watch the whole thing! Let's watch another episode! It's 10 a.m., it's 11 o'clock!

55:36 No, come on. It's only gonna be 40 minutes is watch it You know there's three with four in the morning when I finally go to bed are you all of the horrible? Are you all here all an adderall while you're doing this are y'all like popping pills and like no green tea Green now do you sit at your house in San Francisco and you watch these what? These marathons I don't like television. I'm on C-SPAN all the time and anyone's around, you know... So when you're together then what you guys do is watch movies? You don't like go, you know skeet shooting? No we don't go skeet shooting! Or nature walks? Do you call me Biff?!

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony

The show acknowledges significant donations from David Foley and Thomas Pouillard. Thomas Pouillard passes his knighthood to his daughter, who is dubbed Dame Heidi of Bulgaria, while the hosts discuss the "value for value" funding model.

david foley· thomas pouillard· knighthood· bulgaria· donations

56:19 Yeah, Biff. Biff? He has your new name. You bring Daphne we're gonna be shooting the shotgun today! Biff?! I take it...I shall wear it with pride. Biff Wow okay all right then Skeet shooting. I don't know doing something outdoorsy nature walk yeah fold out shell hunting I don't know, like it's cold out. Hey! How far are we into the show and we haven't thanked our executive? Do we even have an executive producer? We have two actually. It was kind of highlighted in the donation segment which is not up to par No Okay but we got two good executive producers Not okay

57:09 No associate executive producers at all, but David Foley from Los Gatos California want to thank him for coming in with five hundred third five hundred eighteen dollars and thirty three cents It's $4.85 for show 85, although it was show 86 we got this before plus 33.33 for a podcast license please check but I believe this gets me to knighthood recently had the good fortune of huge gains in my stock portfolio sharing the wealth with the best podcast in Unfortunately, he says world. Hey you know... Universe my friend! So first of all thank you very much for sharing your good fortune with us As you know this is your choice You don't have to donate We really appreciate that you're doing that You might want also just sell all your stock now I have a feeling that now might be a good time

58:03 Actually, I have an interesting new theory. Should we do our second exec before we get into your theory? Yes, yes. I'll remember it. Sir Thomas Pouillard in Jafar, I guess... Oh! In Menomina? He's Menomina. Menomina. Menomena. Menomenon. Last two shows have been great especially 484 with JC doing lots of strange voices and sarcasm. Huh I should work on my sarcasm. Yeah, yeah like and calling me names like Biff Let me start by saying every time i hear a donation from El Cid in Sepulpa Oklahoma I have to chuckle My last visit to Sepulpa was for a party that lasted too long and culminated with painful consequences back in 1988 Those czars and drones back then I would uh... Tasers

59:02 I would like to have my university student daughter, Heidi added to the birthday shout out list. She turns 20 on Monday and she is studying journalism. Well she's taking the vow of poverty then that for sure if you're going to be a real journalist With this donation, 3333 which is what it was. This will be the second knighthood in less than one year if I may please pass my second knighthood onward to my daughter Heidi and she should be known as Dame Heidi of Bulgaria. Wait a minute, she gets the whole country of Bulgaria? No, she's Dame Heidi OF Bulgaria. Oh, oh Bulgaria. She refers to her origins. Okay let me write that down... Dame Heidi of Bulgaria I need to write that in otherwise though i don't want to do the the daming incorrectly no

59:54 And he needs the, don't look over here you will obey JCD version and Job Karma top off. 73s and 88's Yo same to you my friend Don't Look Over Here Nothing To See Here You Will Obey You've got karma. So, and with that changes he'll let us know. And as a PR mention I want to announce that the first compilation CD has arrived at noagendaCD.com By train!

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Compilation CDs, Evergreen Content

The launch of No Agenda compilation CDs is announced, featuring curated segments on topics like the film "Zero Dark Thirty," EU media pluralism, and the definition of the middle class. These discs are intended as "evergreen" content for new listeners.

compilation cd· zero dark thirty· middle class· media pluralism· evergreen

1:00:56 Yes, arrived by train And this so you can download the actual binary CD files and burn these CD discs their eyes Iso yeah But also downloadables mp3 file So he's created compilation CD and this is we find it really a fantastic way to hit people in the mouth it even has artwork that you can print out and paste on the on the CD and The January 2012 Alpha Disc is the Full Intelligence Panel's Zero Dark Thirty review critique, which of course we received the movie as a preview. The Beta CD discusses the EU's media pluralism – a great piece of work if I don't mind saying so myself actually great commentary by Daphne Dvorak

1:01:48 And the Gamma CD for January 2013 is our conversation on defining the middle class. So they've made interesting choices, John! Well that's good because outside editing is useful you see things from a different perspective and you put it together because its important to you. AND these will become great evergreen episodes for us to go on vacation Yeah, very very happy about this. Yeah, well once you get enough of them will definitely go on vacation Oh I don't we don't want it We don't want too many because they know that's that the easier it is to kill me Don't give John too much to run on Daphne Yoko Dvorak, I think dead dad doesn't would be good

1:02:30 Alright, so NoahGenested.com and of course thank you very much to our executive producers This is the way it works a value for value model You don't have to give anything this is the choice this is what... It's your choice which is really nice Is completely free if you want to support us We don't do the show and charge before you listen to the show like the movie industry does Can you imagine if the movie industry had the model that we use, which was free will and you go see the movie and then if you thought it was any good you give them money. I'm sure Avatar would have still raked in a ton of money but there's plenty of movies... That movie sucked! I just threw away 20 bucks 40 for The Family 50 with crappy popcorn? I threw away fifty bucks for this movie They're locking you in is actually very unfair to the market And they make you do it in a dark room with other people who smell bad

1:03:19 I mean think about the value we give you. You get to sit in your own smell all by yourself whatever you're doing, however you feel comfortable. Most people are in trucks with gun racks Hey, howdy. Welcome to the show! Thank you David Foley soon-to be Sir David and thank you Thomas Pouillard who has passed on his knight to his daughter a budding journalism student she'll become a Dame of Bulgaria and now of course these are official credits You can put them on your IMDB we will vouch for you and always do one important thing grab a CD go out and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Shower Habits, Taboo Social Discussions

Following a previous discussion about a Dutch politician suggesting people save water by urinating in the shower, the hosts explore whether discussing such habits has become less taboo. They debate the social etiquette of sharing personal hygiene details.

hygiene· social taboos· water conservation· dutch politics· humor

1:04:09 Order! Or should I say... Before we move on that just well before we move on we must have mentioned of org slash na as a point of idiot That is your only necessary porn point of Port of entry it's the point of entry port of entry. I think sport ya report. I'm sorry We did that great great line up an area of entry literally It was like I had the foreplay and then I forgot to put it in am I am I stupid or what? No. Yeah, I just forgetful you just forget we do this show in real time on the fly it's very difficult there's not that many superstar professionals that could do this and there's no prompter and there's no prompter so remember when had the conversation about the Dutch politician who said you should save money by peeing in the shower? Do you remember yeah the goyim

1:05:08 I don't know if he was going but something interesting happened and i just want to pass it along. I want to ask the audience, be honest and maybe you will too maybe...I think because we had that conversation kind of out there and you know it was discussed and I'm pretty sure everybody pees in the shower anyway do you feel less guilty about it? The other day I mean, I said the other day. Do you actually mull it over at that level? Well Mickey made a joke which made me think about something cuz I said did you take a shower hun? She says yes, I peed and I blew my nose in the shower and for her to say that's kind of gross I was like I wonder if if somehow some taboo was broken

1:05:56 where we just now openly discuss what we're doing in the shower. I don't think it's something that should be discussed? Well, it's not something you'd normally discuss but because it came up in a political slant and I was just wondering if other people are listening... No, the audience will answer that question. It didn't change my attitude toward peeing in the shower You still do it, I presume you haven't stopped Well now I put a target up Right I have a little fun Actually those little birds that you and they spin when you get them. I forgot to mention Artwork on the previous show episode four eight five by Thorin Thank you so much Noah Jenna art generator comm is where you can find all the art for every single episode and a grouse from Dame Kathy

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Christopher Dorner Manhunt, LAPD Corruption Manifesto

The manhunt for former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner is analyzed through his 16-page manifesto. The hosts discuss his allegations of systemic racism and corruption within the department, while questioning the authenticity of specific pro-gun-control passages inserted into the text.

christopher dorner· lapd· manifesto· rodney king· gun control

1:06:54 Hey, listening to Thursday's show where John said women never donate the show number amount. Uh hello episode 482 I did just that so I was mistaken yes you were um can we talk nice we got the here from Dame Kathy can we talk manhunt for a moment man hunt Manhunt! So, well here it is. Finally we have what this current administration wanted We have exactly the kind of guy we want on The Loose Yeah that guy I'm telling you it's exactly right Well hold on a second

1:07:39 I'm assuming you're gonna probably go in the same direction. This is the entertainment value of this administration. Well, so here's better than a TV show well I'm expecting Woody Harrelson to pop up at any moment to be the a-hole LAPD cop I mean You know this is a Woody Harrelson script and So it totally would he Harris? But what do I love about it there's a manifesto You know, let's get hard on this. You know me background to people that don't know what the heck you're talking about Okay So the background is well yeah, I'll give the background. I got the analysis. I read the guy some character What's his name? Do you have a name? Yes, I do His name is Chris Dorner Yeah Dorner This guy Dorner was as kind of uh, I guess he's a mixed-race guy That was in the LA Police Department account black. He's not mixed race. He's black and

1:08:34 Well he looks mixed race. Anyway, so is he... was he Sheriff's Department or LAPD? Okay LAPD Was fired and he thinks it would be like two years ago 2008 2009 Hey so far you're doing great! I kept working it out this way we do So this guy gets fired, he thinks it was bullcrap that he got fired for some reason and by the way they're reopening the case on him. Yeah, by the way I have all the... just give us the background i've got the story. And the guy decided to lay in wait and killed a cop and some other people and his daughter of the chief police. Then he went on the lam and then

1:09:12 Burned up his truck and ran into the jungle John you know if I had known any better. I think you just sitting at home with your hand in your pants like Al Bundy watching CNN because you nailed it that is exactly what has happened Okay, so he but of course he left a manifesto and you know me I loves me a good manifesto. Oh I love reading a manifesto We would generally speaking on this show we seldom believe that the manifest was actually written by the person And if he's killed before he can explain himself then we know it probably was written by somebody else

1:09:49 And to show that it was nuts so we could kill him. Well, and if it was written by him I'd be surprised My analysis in this case is this was written by two people Okay Yes One...I think it was totally written by Chris Dorner And so, and I'll end this. It's the second part that is so obviously written by someone else it's hilarious and it comes out of left field So I don't want to you know...I'm not you know..it's only 16 pages so you can read the thing for yourself but I can give you the gist and what's interesting to me is what was not being discussed

1:10:26 in general on the news and how this guy is being portrayed. So if we take his manifesto at its face value, this guy sounds like he was a pretty decent guy and he sees an LA police officer... And by the way I've received so many emails from former police officers current police officers who are saying what this guy wrote makes total sense LAPD bunch of criminal sadistic A-holes generalizing of course, but he saw one of his fellow officers kick a witness in the face and he reported him. And he said that was not okay it was totally uncalled for and this is the whole Woody Harrelson thing so you can totally see what it would be Harrison doing that

1:11:14 You're bullied I would say that which kind of fits in the whole thing He got bullied by the force and then you know, eventually he got kicked off But it was they called him nigger And you know and they but they kept doing that just to mess with them and then and then he has this whole story about The lesbian faction of the LAPD and that they're really frightening and that there's so evil two men and just like the whole it It fits the image exactly of what you would think. In addition, he says no one knows and no one has reported on the fact that the same cops who beat Rodney King have now become captains in a running squads of 200 police officers

1:11:51 You know, and this is all in the manifesto. Which Anderson Cooper by the way received a DVD of with some of the video testimony because he obviously thought Anderson Cooper was a straight up guy or that he would report on something you know keeping him honest whatever big mistake there so and yeah and he's like This is he said it's so unconscionable what these people are doing He says the only thing I can do is I cannot fix it through the legal system, and I'm paraphrasing. I cannot fix It you know by by doing the right thing The only way I can fix it is by killing these people because they're evil and I have to rid that the earth of them That's really what's in his manifesto now here's where it gets crazy because all of a sudden

1:12:39 In the middle of this manifesto, which I'm reading and like oh my god you know this is an American hero. He's trying to rid... Which is exactly what the Obama administration wants you know we'd love that what a great story it's got every he's got a racial angle It's got a vigilante homegrown terrorist angle But you know the only thing was missing was Oh! And there it was written in there. He literally says There's no reason why I should have assault weapons this is crazy that I can have a 50 yes in his manifesto he's like this is crazy that I can have it change the topic just to throw this little piece of publicity our little piece of propaganda in the middle right nobody notices bogus I mean its jet it almost was almost like written different handwriting with different ink we know if that's how how different it isn't how it jumps off the page and like

1:13:27 Oh my god, this makes no sense. Then he goes into how beautiful Michelle Obama is and I really love her new bangs Yes! It's crazy. Let me just... While we're writing this part here Bill what do you think? We're gonna put a plug in for the misses. Let me just.. What? Michelle?! Listen to this. Yeah let's do that. Don't think it's hilarious. Listen to this for second I just have to... so this is like halfway through and he's gone through this whole thing about how evil these guys are and that he's gonna take care of it, and he's just got a rid the world of these A-hole cops. And unless they completely come clean on everything and you know send people in jail, he's just going to keep killing and he knows he's a dead man walking but he's like I can't live with myself This is what I've chosen for. This will be justice well served

1:14:18 If you had a well-regulated assault weapon ban, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute the ban that will save lives! Why does any sportsman need 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need AR15 rifle? I mean seriously and then Mia Farrow said it best gun control is no longer It's not a conversation, it is a moral mandate. Senator Feinstein you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national assault weapons ban and then blah blah blah... He's talking about racism. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat towards the president, he is talking about Romney You call his wife a wookie off-the record I love your new bangs Mrs Obama A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent first wives you call her supporters with black brown yellow or white leeches Fsx... now he is talking about the racism against the President So I'm sorry this was written by at least two people

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Dorner's Escape Strategy, LAPD Reputation

The hosts debate Christopher Dorner's likely whereabouts, with one suggesting he is hiding in plain sight rather than in the mountains. They discuss the LAPD's historical reputation for corruption and how the public's perception of the department influences the narrative of the manhunt.

christopher dorner· escape route· lapd· racial dynamics· civil war

1:15:24 And the whole, and what's crazy is that the whole first thing. And these cops are freaked out so they see someone who they see a car They think it's him They riddle this car with 60 bullets It's some woman and her daughter going shopping did like machine gunning this thing This is how freaked out they are just imagine Woody Harrelson trying to kill all the cops you know he knows it's not going to end well but he's gonna pick off a couple for sure now of course we have to probably find that he did burn some of his own gear when he burned down is his own truck He probably is going to resort, a couple of things. One he could just disappear you know if he spent over two years maybe three at least three years obviously dreamed up an escape path Can I just say something? Okay You have to now this isn't African-American alright I've lived and I am half African American my ass is so black I have lived with African Americans

1:16:27 I have lived in the culture and this is not a white dude. White dudes burn their truck, this is why that was bogative. White dudes burn the truck go into mountains through the snow no no not the black man John he's sitting in his barco lounger watching this thing on TV He's chilling drinking beer waiting for next opportunity The black man is smart He is not like the idiot redneck who's gonna go run around and in the woods waiting for the drone to come catch him Not how I never say was running around the woods. That's where he disappeared, I believe I don't mean I think it's fine that you know a black man yeah, I Think more importantly one black man this guy

1:17:11 I don't believe he went to some Barca lounge and he's sitting around drinking beer. Yes, yes! He is chilling. I think he had a complete plan... Yeah? You know, he was an educated man and he'd been on the escape route And he was not anywhere to be found He might be sitting on a Barker lounger but it's not in the LA basin. Yes, it is! Yes, he is right in the zone waiting. This guy can't go anywhere and this guy is 250 pounds everyone knows what he looks like. He's not going to walk around. He's chilling out and waiting for his strike. The cops know that by the way

1:17:48 I'm generalizing but i'm pretty sure we can say with some authority that the LAPD is a cesspool of corruption and poor anger management and hurting people. And, uh...I would say most of my black brothers and sisters in LA will be the first ones to attest to that! Only good at it does them. I've lived in Los Angeles. It's crap And I'm getting emails from police officers, of course there's good cops. Of course! Obviously, I am generalizing but wow the LAPD specifically...specifically So i think the guy is a hero. I don't like the way he doing it but you know He has the right idea This is what going to happen this how the civil war starts this not an insignificant moment

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

LAPD Investigation Reopening, Institutional Corruption

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Police Chief Charlie Beck announce the reopening of the investigation into Christopher Dorner's original termination. The hosts express skepticism, predicting a "whitewash" that will ultimately protect the department's leadership.

antonio villaraigosa· charlie beck· lapd· internal affairs· rodney king

1:18:45 This is not an insignificant moment and that they try to spin this with the assault weapons ban, oh well okay. That was well written, well played Unfortunately the mayor is not even bringing that up properly Where is it here? This is a very sick individual as we can see by the three people he's already killed, one seriously injured. See he's already saying that he did it! The news media is not even saying that. The news media is saying allegedly He's right, he's in it! Villagroso is just saying he did it And the threats that he has made to everybody else

1:19:28 I give no credence whatsoever to anything this man says. Yeah, especially the part about you know the Rodney King cops having made captain and running the show It sounds right. And as you already said earlier, they're reopening the case? Chief Beck has directed that the Los Angeles Police Department reopen the investigation into the allegations that Officer Dorner made while he was on the department those... Those allegations that resulted in him being terminated So what do you think is uh... Is-is that um sincere or are they just doing that just to really somehow say the guy is off his rocker even what he wrote in the manifesto What do YOU think

1:20:14 I think they're sincere about investigating. What do you think? They are going to come out with some report saying it's all bull crap, the guy was nuts he had mental problems he was checked into a psych ward is known fact he was violent in the locker room nobody liked him because he was a nutball and there gonna be whitewash or black wash as it were and he's not gonna find anything that's not what everyone says is true that the whole place is just rife with corruption the investigation is going to be corrupt so it's not gonna happen. I mean we could put money on it but I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna be the case. Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work day-in, day out with a sole intent of attempting to prove your mis...

1:20:59 Misandrist? M-miss... misogynist. No, he says misandrist. Well he spelled it wrong. Misandrist authority to degrade male officers you are a high value target that's right shoot the lesbians Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned, other officers participating in on a daily basis but you say nothing. Stand for nothing and protect nothing why? Because of your usual saying, I don't like conflict! You are high value target as well Those of you who go along to get along have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics an oath you swore

1:21:46 Citizens, non-combatants do not render medical aid to downed officers and enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you! They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers they had a 187 caper the other day and can't wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas As they always say that's the paramedics job not mine Let the balance loss of life take place Sometimes a reset needs to occur This is a good read. It is something you should, I mean it's... Are you gonna have in the show notes? Of course! It's jarring to read this but when you read that cops let you bleed out because they know they're going get paid overtime because more paperwork and oh that's.. And by the way I know some paramedics who will tell me the truth if cops are like that not just in LA but other places

1:22:37 You know? And by the way, they're just human beings who become completely enslaved to the corrupt system. Well cops do... They're basically enslaved to overtime that's for sure. Yeah. I want you see a bunch of cops get irked take away all overtime from police officers And I feel bad about it, I feel really horrible about this because i have friends who are law officers. I have friends who are in all forms of government you know so the generalization is where you go wrong but holy moly! It really has gotten pretty bad. Well we just never heard anything good about the Los Angeles Police Department

1:23:22 And how did that come from? How did that happen? How does it happen specifically... Wait, go back to those old movies. I mean they used to portray the LA Police Department as corrupt in the 20's Because of the movies?! It happened in the movies!? No, I'm just saying you can go back to those old movies. I think those are mostly pretty much documenting the problem with the LA Police Department goes back to the founding of L.A. L.A is a corrupt place. It's logical that would have a corrupt police department It's corrupt in all kinds of different ways. I always get the biggest kick out of talking about the way people are in LA and they can't tell the truth for more than a couple of minutes. You know someone who could tell the truth for a couple of minutes? Okay, you're right! Oh my god... I couldn't find anyone. Who is that?! So if I was...I'm hopeful Yeah yeah ah it just so this whole thing um

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Mitch Schultz, DMT The Spirit Molecule Documentary

Documentary filmmaker Mitch Schultz's work on "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" is discussed following a personal meeting. The conversation covers the nature of dimethyltryptamine, its effects on human consciousness, and the success of the crowdfunded film.

mitch schultz· dmt· dimethyltryptamine· documentary· consciousness

1:24:12 This is kind of a red book thing. This is not insignificant, this is the start of something that we're going to see more of. I think they are putting all their efforts into tracking this guy down and killing him before it catches on Before you know there t-shirts and people are like go man! Go! Because he's black dude The black community is probably going yeah Do you know what this Kindles in a place like Los Angeles? Los Angeles is a tinderbox. Yeah, that's what it does and you know And and this is what they've been practicing for with their military crap in their helicopters and they're shooting and shooting over cities This isn't this is exactly what its four For the manhunt it's where the freaking manhunt dude did I say dude? Yeah, I didn't comment on it You know why I'll tell you why we had an interesting guest over Friday night

1:25:14 It's a Friday night? Yeah, Friday night. A couple of friends came over for our last little dinner party here at the house because we're leaving the house and it was one of these where you know it's like once yeah were bringing along my boyfriend or whatever I'm like...I'm a private person! And I said to Miki what?! You're a private person you said? Yeah but you don't mind talking about peeing in the bathroom The bathtub. But in my house, I don't just want anyone in my space Oh okay go on You know me you know that I'm kind of like you No I like to archive I like the scrapbook I'm an archivist I'm an archivist and I like the scrapbook and be left alone

1:25:55 And so, you know guy comes over and he seems like a nice enough guy. We're talking and I say what's with the tattoos? He says oh yeah that's Tesla and has Tesla face tattooed on his arm but really beautiful Elvis was he dating Tesla's how old is this guy? No, he wasn't dating Tesla and now like oh This is interesting. So in so I'm like Oh Tesla you know and then so we're talking because of course Tesla is the unsung hero of radio of true forms of energy wireless electricity all kinds of great stuff

1:26:32 But particularly the radio stuff is very, very interesting. And I said, what do you do? He says well documentary filmmaker and like okay don't you love it documentary filmmaker and like okay Nia Farrow what are you doing he did the DMT The Spirit Molecule at Deafening Silence this was a very successful documentary I've never heard of it. So his name is Mitch Schultz and there was a book called the spirit molecule and And he went on this quest and in five years did this documentary on do you know what DMT is obviously? Dimethyltryptamine to be exact correct

1:27:12 And have you ever done dimethyltryptamine? I don't discuss drug usage on the show, but i can say with honesty that I've never actually used DMT. Okay, I have! Yeah, I know you brag about it... Well, I'm not bragging about it but it's the only other drug that I've done outside of marijuana and... It qualifies as pretty much everything else What do you mean? I mean if you did DMT from all descriptions it's pretty much like everything. It is like a massive... It is like doing mushrooms on top of acid, on top of mescaline, on top of piotin mushrooms. So what do you don't know anything? You could probably take and do anything. Right now you can be stone-fouled. In fact, in fact I smoked some DMT just before the show! But this... And Rogan isn't this right?

1:28:04 Joe Rogan. You should get the... Joe Rogan? Yeah! Is it the name of the drug? No, the podcaster He talks about DMT? Yeah he's in there you'll like it. You will like this documentary Get on with the story Well, that's how we got into this whole dude thing because the audience knows what I'm talking about and you haven't seen this. If you have ever taken DMT which I highly recommend you do John This will change your outlook on the universe in general

1:28:45 Okay, are you ready? Are you writing drug use no? How's he writing it down memo to sell I'm looking at some DMT Cleanup office I would just say, yeah. By the way you don't get synthesized stuff it comes from a plant so i'm perfectly okay promoting the smoking of weed and perfectly okay with eating mushrooms although have never done it You know its natural thing do whatever you want I am just saying every person in their life should have at least once experienced DMT this is not...I did three times my life and I had no

1:29:27 Urge to go and do it again because I know that. I am on DMT all the time That's the whole point of the documentary It's very deep stuff, and this is why I never tell you anything personal or with feeling or romance because you ridicule No, I don't you're ridiculing right now, but this is very very Yes This is very very important so this guy No, I can't say that for sure. He's on LinkedIn so i'm looking at him So he has tattoos all over his arms and he is bald Yes He's a writer, director, culture architect. Well it is funny because he said that he used to... we laughed about it and I used to suck corporate cock for living. And so that was my job too and you had all this like agency done a lot of agency stuff but he gave up to do this documentary now he's doing documentary on Tibet he's doing... and any made money on this. He gave 40% back to his investors How's the style?

1:30:30 His style? Yeah, his documentary style. Is it any good? It's very good. It's very good. Now you'll like it! I wouldn't recommend it to you if it wasn't good. He got 40% back to his investors? Profit. That's not bad. And yeah he is a very interesting guy But that's why I said dude. But anyway... Did he, uhhhh.... Does he drink wine? He does! Indeed? Uh-he was very interested in the Noah Gen to Moonshine which i offered to him Did you give him a straight shot of it? No, I cut it with water. Mainly because I'm just stingy because I am out. You'd kill us! You could kill somebody giving them 180 proof. Yeah, I'm out. I need another bottle. Have you heard from the... From our... From our... From our... Distiller? From our moonshiner? From my distiller?! Have you heard from the distillery recently John? No. NO Biff but I expect to shortly. Listen Daphne, we'll have none of this

1:31:33 So anyway, yes. Whether you decide to experiment in it or not I would recommend watching this documentary and reading the book that it was based on which is not his book The documentary will give you all you need to know It's really good Okay... fine Would you do some DMT with me? No never Really?! Not in a million years You'd never do it or just not with me I wouldn't do it. No, why would i do with you? What are we gonna do kiss? Find somebody else Mitch maybe You don't understand New boyfriend Really really misunderstanding DMT It's not ecstasy It's not like hey John let's do some E together NO! I love you man I really love you

1:32:28 In fact, next time here and I'll get off the topic. Next time you're up with the family instead of watching what is it you watch? Parks and Recreation or whatever you're watching with the family. That's it! Instead of trying to watch all of the parks and recreation because this show is so compelling... Instead of watching that just do DMT with the whole family that would- I'm telling you it would in- You've homeschooled your kids come on this you can add So anyway, onward. Onwards with some like maybe some topics of that people care about I think people really care about this It's not like... it's like you're finally getting your thing, your stuff smoking the pot and now you're reminiscing about old drug days

1:33:18 You know it's great everyone should use I heard that about the University of California not one drug in the world has never had one of these you know these acolytes. It's your mom on about how great it is! You're misunderstanding what I'm saying so I'm gonna just say it one more time once you understand and yeah think you will even understand from viewing the documentary that Your consciousness is the only thing that keeps you from seeing through the matrix that has been created around us when you I know You were already there because you do this frickin show with me twice a week as the no agenda show accomplishes The same thing yeah, but DMT only lasts 20 minutes. Yeah, this fucking thing goes on forever So we talked about in the last show? the bond collapse

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

UBS Bond Market Reclassification, Bondpocalypse

UBS is reportedly reclassifying conservative bond clients as "aggressive" investors to protect the bank from future lawsuits. This move is interpreted as a sign of an impending "Bondpocalypse" where bond prices may drop significantly as interest rates eventually rise.

ubs· bond market· max keiser· financial scandal· interest rates

1:34:16 Yes, I'm very curious because I'm reading now. Oh no name it had oh Yes, I can play it. I don't say it. I can play it is to get ready for the bond apocalypse UBS is planning a mass mailing to many of its brokerage clients, alerting them that they have been reclassified as aggressive investors following a recent change in its market outlook that some people inside the firm say reflects growing bearishness in the bond market particularly over the long term. So Max why are they reclassifying clients as aggressive? If you were a client or if you were the broker sending out this letter what is going on here

1:34:56 Right. Well, when you open an account at a brokerage firm per the laws of going back to 33 and 34 the know your customer rules you have to fill out what the profile that customer is whether they're conservative whether they are aggressive and typically if they are conservative then they would migrate over to the bond market which are perceived to be conservative investments However, now that we've had round after round of quantitative easing and you create this enormous bond bubble here in the UK and in the United States around the world. The sovereign bond bubble UBS knows that the Bondpocalypse is upon us. That bond prices like 1994 will drop not just 25%

1:35:40 but 50, 60, 70 percent. So they're preemptively going in and reclassifying all their customers who have checked conservative bond investor without really having a discussion with those customers. They should be telling those customers to get out of bonds! But instead they are just changing the classification of those customer from conservative to high risk So that when the bonds collapse, as they most certainly will then they can claim well the customers indicated they were for risky investments. So to preactively making a legal maneuver ahead of the lawsuits that are coming their way because they put them into bonds knowingly that they will collapse it's amazing that the bank

1:36:22 is treating their customers. Again, this is another mis-selling scandal! This the mis-selling scandal of 2014. This is the PPI scandal 2014. This is the... you know name the scandals of this year. Interest rate swap scandals. The interest rate swap scandal of 2014. This a huge scandal we're seeing the birth of a massive scandal right now UBS, a crooked bank in a crooked country with crooked bankers committed crooked fraud once again so So bondpocalypse, what happened to Venezuela's bonds with the devaluation of their peso? I don't know what happened. Or shekel Well they devalued 43% Yeah So does that do anything to the bonds? Now you brought up another topic Let's stay with bondpocalypse My problem with this clip

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Max Keiser, Financial Media Critique

The hosts critique Max Keiser's broadcasting style, comparing his high-energy delivery to Jim Cramer. They discuss the motivations of "gold bugs" and the potential pitfalls of alternative media figures appearing too frequently on mainstream television networks.

max keiser· jim kramer· gold bugs· silver· mainstream media

1:37:19 is Max Keiser yells too much at me. Actually, Max Keiser has gotten into... Here's what I think is going on with this guy. I think he's on a lot of trends and I think he's right in joining out that there's criminal activity going on. But the shouting thing, I'm absolutely convinced comes from Jim Cramer Yeah, Jim Kramer makes more money on CNBC shouting and going berserk right on his show whatever it is I Forget the name of it But anyway Kramer yells the whole time and he's and he does so well And he's so popular that people really love watching him go crazy that. I think Max Keiser's trying to be Jim Kramer Right and it's ruining him because it's not his personality and he's he's

1:38:08 He's actually more of a cynical guy than Kramer. Kramer is just a stock nerd Well I like his general message, but then when he starts yelling and yelling it's much cooler in his case because...he is a mainstream whore! I mean he goes on all the mainstream shows so that's always suspicious to me It's just suspicious to me and I'm still waiting for the huge, you know it's like Max Keiser is like oh JP Morgan You know there's they can't deliver the physical silver the physical silver the physical silver. It's gonna see it's gonna go to 80 I'm still waiting for that yeah He's uh well he's a gold man who sells gold and silver on his website And that's a gold bug that strike two Yeah, I agree. I'm not saying that this is not

1:38:55 I'm not going to argue against any of these points. I agree he shouldn't be shouting like he does because it's ineffective if you use an effective shouter that would be okay but he's not. He is an ineffective shouter trying to be like Jim Cramer, it is obvious to me and I don't like gold bugs telling you what to do because they have a vested interest in the show if you go on about gold, its not cause we're selling gold! We are not selling anything, were selling the show! I am selling some DMT by the way after the show in the foyer. He has got bottles of it. Anyway, yeah. What's strike three then? Well there is no strike three I still like him! Strike three would be that he shows up on too many mainstream media shows That was two. No that was one. No you had three because you had shouting, you had gold and showing up on too many TV shows as three

1:39:51 Even Time Warner gives you six strikes these days, okay? So I'm just gonna say... The shouting is okay. It's the showing up on the mainstream TV shows all the time like Alex Jones which then you're trying to be used willingly or not You're being used as a puppet to show that alternative media are idiots Okay, that all actually we are the mainstream of course now but that's a little secret. So doing that is you're only doing it for your own ego and maybe to sell some... I might be doing it to sell a book or some golden shekels yeah exactly to sell a book exactly. That's one of those things why don't you do this people always ask me had somebody telling me I should do Ted work my way because I know Chris Anderson Yeah

1:40:34 I said, why? What would what would i bring to the party an 18 minute crummy speech. I got nothing to sell. Where's my book? Should I tell you something funny? No no no! I want to tell you something funny. I was at Halcyon yesterday with Mike and Jane who listen to the show producers And they're talking about doing a Kickstarter To help John get a book published any book Just print Something it's like we'll do a Kickstarter just whatever. We don't care because they're waiting They're like, where's the egg book? Where's that? Where's the salt book now? Where's where's the book with no agenda art? Where's the where's this cycles book they're excited They want to do a kickstarter crowdfunded till you have you publish any book any book whatsoever on this stick Okay

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Real Estate Market, Mortgage Timing

A discussion on the current state of the real estate market and whether it is a favorable time to obtain a mortgage. The hosts note that while interest rates are historically low, banks remain hesitant to lend due to fears of a future market collapse.

mortgages· interest rates· real estate· inflation· shadow stats

1:41:24 I thought it was very cute. I got all these great things in the can But, people love you so much They have such deep respect for you that they're willing to go raise... It's like, You're not homeless? Like they are willing to raise money to help you publish a book because they know there is obviously some mental issue I believe that is true! I have some mental issues I can't resolve No amount of drugs or psychotherapy seemed to help. Anyway, I would participate in that and be like man this is a great kickstarter. Okay so let's go back to the cycle you were supposed to remind me about Onward Let me see there is one other thing here Well so the bombpocalypse which you say is possibly coming October because that's a good time for it to happen October would be good and March 2014 would be good too both those are great months for crashes

1:42:24 and you I because i had listened and you said, more multi millionaires and billionaires are going to be created in this bond collapse but then I hear Max Kaiser and I immediately get heebie-jeebies like oh now I don't feel like a wanna invest in some downward spiral all of my hundred dollars. Well the funny thing is logically I think anybody who's been in the market for very long knows that it's a bubble The bonds can't go any higher because unless they right now. They're paying such low interest Right if they go the only thing go higher is by paying lower interest, but they're almost at zero Yeah You have to start collecting interest like hey you got that bond. You owe me No really if it go any higher that means you have to be constantly giving them money yeah instead of instead of them paying you dividends you Have to pay to own yet well you know your subscription needs another renewal fee here buddy Like what he gotta pays more? It's like an extortion scheme

1:43:28 So that's not going to happen. And we do know that real inflation, according to the shadow stats guys around 10%, is not being reflected in the bond market and so once it gets reflected... It would say to me that bonds could collapse up to 90%. Question question question. Let's say in theory let's say I wanted to get a mortgage which they won't give me but lets' say in theory would this be a good time or bad time? I think it would be a great time to get a mortgage if you could get one. Which is why they won't give it to them? Banks all know this is coming, that's why they're not loaning money. Right. Well interest rates are the lowest ever! Yes try to get some of that cheap money You can't do it because the banks won't give it to ya Because they know when everything falls to crap That their gonna lose out all this money on those loans

1:44:16 Yeah, they're going to be... yeah. They're not going to collect because they can collect maybe 6%, 7%, 8%, 9% or 10% on loans if they give them after the bond collapse and so that's how money and they don't care just sit on it. Because only time in my life when I had a mortgage in the late 80s and 90s, I think was paying ten percent back in those days Could be. This is how smart I was, so i bought the house for $400 000 mtv days with a 20 000 because I didn't have enough money twenty thousand dollar balloon payment from the owner which I did pay off and then he died like a year later my crap that was dumb um and uh and I sold the house for 450 000 I think in 1999 that house today before the collapse

1:45:04 It was like almost $2 million. Yeah, that's pretty typical. Now it's still 7-800 thousand. This is me! This is my financial prowess. You're a life or renter? You're a renter and I don't think that so bad because I get to deduct half of the rent. No you'd feel much more comfortable And you yeah, you're using it mostly as an office so you can deduct You know part of the fees and I'll do with a house too by the way. I'm not I know I'm gonna wind up eating cat food I know what? I know where Ted is so everyone will yeah, it's a drone I'll be eating cat food in your house which you own So what so well

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Currency Wars, UK Economic Devaluation

The global trend of currency devaluation is examined, with a focus on the United Kingdom's economic stagnation. The segment explores how countries lower their currency value to boost exports, potentially leading to broader international trade wars.

currency wars· devaluation· bill gates· sterling· trade wars

1:45:46 We have extra properties and put you up in one of them. Thank you so kind So while we're on this stuff Kaiser had a guest on who was going to talk about apparently Bill Gates Who I now believe but now believing he's going to kiss his Buffett is really his mentor Now yeah, and he's been hanging around Buffet for so long that he starting too And I think he's pulling away from the vaccinations and all the other crap and he's pulling toward the game of financial manipulation. I mean, at some point Buffett looks like he's having more fun than Bill And so I believe he's going to, and so he's made the observation that there are all kinds of problems ahead. Potential trade wars and some other currency... people are starting to devalue the currencies their own currencies The Japanese are trying at their best to devalue their assets. Why? Before we get into the clip why do you devalued your currency? How do you do that because people just talk like it is so easy

1:46:47 Why do you do it and how do you do it? Well the way, how you do is problematic because you try to do it. You don't necessarily accomplish it but you do by selling your own security short against some other currency so you buy a lot of euros and sell a lot of dollars on the currency exchanges And that would force the euro up and your currency down If you did it, but sometimes they fight on the other side They do the same thing and nothing happens just waste a lot of time right so the currency war this is actually This is the nuclear war in fact if Venezuela It's called the nuclear option once you get into a currency war then. It's literally like computers And this is how these are computers fighting against each other because it's not like by

1:47:30 pieces of paper, truck pallets of dollars. This is computers right? This is one computer against the other trying to hit the trades at the right moment it's high frequency big money game am I correct? The way you do currency trading is beyond me It's for the expert experts and its usually done by governments With computers! Yeah, I know but i don't know if they do high frequency. I don't know what their methodology is but this is what you want to do You wanna try and sink your own currency there Now this guy talks about how the Brits are trying to sink theirs They've already done it once And the reason you do it is for because if you're in this global economy where you have to, so Caterpillar has to sell tractors to China and China has to buy or sell tractors to us. So a Chinese tractor comes over here and a Caterpillar tractor goes over there and it's all then paid for whatever currency

1:48:22 If your currency is weaker, your prices are lower. Right of course. So more exports and the economy goes better right? And the local people just because your currency is weak doesn't mean I'm paying more for a loaf of bread because my... The loaf of bread price goes down and I got less money so it's even out at the local level but on the international level where its fundamentally different But more importantly do hookers start to look better They start to look better when the economy starts to collapse. Okay, so this is not what we want then? Well... depends! Take me into the clip So this is trade wars and how this could all fall apart because it's not necessarily The way this all works always as a downward spiral and ends up just kind of screwing It doesn't everybody. Of all people in the multinationals Yeah, it screws everybody except the bankers Is that basically the system? That might be true. You're right Get a clue

1:49:18 Trade wars, trade tariffs, quotas all kinds of surreptitious taxes creeping in around the margin. And if you're a complex modern multinational whose operations are highly leveraged and structured to each individual country's advantages and of course the exchange rates and of course the trade policies regimes guess what happens if all of sudden these barriers start springing up? An efficient multinational becomes inefficient unprofitable disaster If the currency wars morph into trade wars and Gates may be sensing just how dangerous this phase is becoming. But moving home to the UK, now this is a country that devalued very dramatically in 2008 and arguably it needed to! Now this is a financial hub London The UK's economy is hugely dependent on it

1:50:02 When the global financial system faced a crisis, it was only natural that sterling would get whacked and fell about 25% in trade-weighted terms. But even that has not prevented stagnation! Even that has no led to any real recovery in the UK. The UK is failing to recover They're going to need to devalue again. They have every excuse now that Japan and other countries are also doing it, it's only a matter of time and if the current government wants to get re-elected they'll probably get on with it to try and create some jobs sooner rather than later." Huh... well okay yeah I see but there is a different problem there just from where I stand the UK makes nothing

1:50:41 They make nothing. They make financial products, so that's why there is nothing... it's not going well There are people walking around with nothing to do! They made the rover Don't get me started You know what I'm saying? It's like 60 million people on that island they pretty much don't make enough Well They figure that maybe they'll start making stuff if they... but they go on, this thing lasted forever and I can just summarize a couple points. One of them is that they've already tried to devalue it and do any good And both these guys came in the conclusion that you know well didn't work that time let's devalue more You know its just like this crazy you know Keep doing it! Keep doing it and it doesn't work ever Is what the point being made is that things don't work

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Economic Cycles, Shale Oil Gold Rush

A theory is presented comparing the current U.S. shale oil and natural gas boom to the 1850s Gold Rush. The hosts suggest this influx of "free money" from energy resources might delay a total economic collapse until approximately 2017.

economic cycles· shale oil· fracking· gold rush· 2017 collapse

1:51:28 control things as much as you'd like to. Whatever the case is, it's all going to lead to no good but I did come up with a new thing on my cycles that you were gonna remind me about Hey John let's talk about that thing about cycles i was gonna remind you about It's possible that we won't have a collapse until 2017 What? Well, no wonder you didn't let the book release the book. You would look pretty stupid. No this is in there this in the book I do have this element This is the scenario for but I never thought about it...I wasn't thinking clearly This is a scenario from 1850 to 1860

1:52:06 when we had gold, something to the equivalent of 30 trillion dollars in today's money of gold into the economy keeping it from collapsing like it should have collapsed. Yeah but hold on a second because that created a whole bunch of jobs because it was physical labor too... There was that too! No you got jobs and you got wealth and the wealth came out of the blue right so you added it buoyed the economy the natural gas fields in North Dakota and the big one off of the Monterey Peninsula, and all the other ones, and all this shale oil, and all this shale gas... ...and all the crap we're doing today is the exact same equivalent of The Gold Rush. Except...

1:52:52 In other words, we're getting free money which is the gas coming out of the ground. Essentially free money puts a lot of people to work to grab that free money which comes into the economy and bolsters it to the point where we may be energy independent if we just combine Canada and ourselves within the next 10 years. No, I think you're saying... You see no, I don't think so John because let me finish there's no dream this free money which is the same as gold for all practical purposes should keep the economy from collapsing completely until 2017 when it collapsed during the Gold Rush too okay As your publisher i'd like to say there's a couple things wrong with your thesis you have to go back and rewrite this for the second printing

1:53:34 One, I can't believe you actually said gold is like free money. Wow! That was just mind-boggling to hear you say gold as money at all those two words next to each other But gold at least you could take... Gold was the standard of the monetary exchange during that era. You could take a pan and go to... And so dollars is kind of what the standard is today? Right, but you could take a pan and go to the stream and find some gold Yeah free money! Yeah but that is not with gas this is fracking it's a very expensive process The other one was Well, let's face it. When gold really started getting pulled out of the ground there were big operations that were grinding up all this ore and they were running through sluices that no one guy was going to do I also think you need to go back and look at how the oil industry really started This was also... You could stick a pipe in the ground

1:54:31 and oil would come out. There was a lot of bonanza, we've raped all of that. The shale oil is just not as simple it's not a one guy operation I have to disagree that is not, and this regulation and Mia Farrow is being complicated. And what's her name? Darryl Hannah. No, those are all barriers to the- Everyone thinks gold is good! Let's go get some gold! Westward! The Gold Rush! The 49ers! Yeah... I don't think thinking it's good or bad really has much to do with the wealth aspect We're not going to have a football team named after the bonanza of shale oil.

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Listener Donations, Ham Radio Shout-outs

A series of listener donations are read, including several from the ham radio community. The hosts discuss the role of hams during emergencies like the 2013 blizzard and grant "karma" to various producers for career and health issues.

ham radio· donations· hams· blizzard· karma

1:55:12 The Edmonton Oilers, the hockey team. What do you think they're named after? I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could deal with us! Oh yeah that'd be fab! They own No Agenda! Mine and Coil's in the morning Remember it's just a choice The Edmonton Oilers Right what is their name from? Oil In Canada Well they get more oil up there maybe Shortlist today Yeah. Patrick Maccom in Mount Vernon, New York did he send me an email? It's gonna be kind of interesting because I don't have the emails thing opened. Patrick if you send something send it again we'll talk about next week or next show. Lori Swim in Marysville Kansas $100 thanks for everything ITM from a fellow ham KG6GZV I've had a license for over seven or ten years and still haven't made a single contact

1:56:16 Hey, wait a minute. Did you go to the John C. Dvorak School of Broadcasting? I'm contacting you from the oil fields west of Gitmo Nation Bakersfield The best podcasting universe has made my daily commutes out here much less sucky First time donor...I have been a douchebag This is Lori. No, no this is Timothy's email. I'm okay with Lori but thanks for everything from me. I am reading this and I am befuddled because it actually comes from Timothy McCusnick. It just the way the spreadsheet looks like. He is in Bakersfield at 8888. Anyway he is King G6V7. An 8888 gets a ham thing that what the hams want

1:57:04 There you go. That's the 8888 donation signal anyway, he's a new donor Laurie's been around I've been a douchebag since last year when I got punched in the mouth by Adam During an appearance on Twit when he shocked all the guests by having the nerve to show everyone his gun What nerve that took then? He also pulled out his pistol After that I just had to check out no agenda and only missed a couple of episodes since my youngest human resource Morgan 12 likes it so much That's nice. Can I get is Morgan a woman or boys a boy, or girl we don't know you don't know oh

1:57:41 Can I get a please don't eat me Hillary and a little girl yay for her as a girl. And a woman in labor karma shot from my oldest human resource Sydney who is expecting her first human resource around the 16th. Awesome! Tim from Biggers. Alright, Tim give me a shout out on 20 meters. Don't Eat Me Hillary Clinton You've got karma. Already I miss her, Hillary Oh! I got some inside information from one of our Hitmen economic hitman oh okay who knows her chief of staff I sure yeah Uma Huma couple of things One she's 5'7". She is five foot seven and that should be put in the Wikipedia That should be in the Wikipedia five seven is not very tall

1:58:42 No, that's pretty average height. I know it is not small but she apparently looks taller She's taller than she looks she looks like she's five five anyway She is going to take a long hiatus Yes That for about three or four months and I think it's gonna be mostly to strategize how they're gonna put a team together To run her so we you probably will miss her because she's going to disappear right from the scene for Probably the rest of it. Well, but when she comes back her hair is gonna be dynamite Yes, you know it's gonna bear die no might to be trim slim She's gonna look It's a Hillary update capital idea radio in Cincinnati Ohio A334 working with top PayPal execs on delivering syphilis over the internet until then please my donation to choke on two of twelve

1:59:39 Two of twelve. I like that, that is the kind of... it's a code you know what he always saying something very different. Yeah i guess. Brendan Fon Stolk in New Westminster BC $70. Say my first name only. I know the donation says Canada but its actually Sushi's in Japan where public teachers work six days and 12 hours What? Six days a week, twelve hours a day No wonder our schools are screwed up. They're out working us and where the nightly news is in a tizzy about China having, oh yeah we didn't talk about this on the show

2:00:19 This really got everybody's worked up on the Asian news. Apparently, you know that those islands are fighting over? Yeah You know about this right? Yeah, the Galacalocaloclos? Yeah and I mean you know about the we all talk about this thing but did you know about this where the Japanese ship is going around there and his Chinese ship came along and locked radar on him yeah The Japanese got all bent out of shape. You're locking weapon systems on us! Well it does kind of suck when you hear that beep-beep-beep You know, it's like... But don't you think it went like this? The Chinese guy say hey I got a great idea. Watch this! Of course we have these preconceived notions again Hollywoodism thank you very much of you know Top Gun Goose goose he's got me on the lock that's exactly what and that's the visual I get who knows what it is they can just say this I'm gonna have this is a great app to have by

2:01:20 On your phone this good. They've got a drone lock on me take cover everybody Yeah, how did the phone go off with the noise mm-hmm? Got it drone locked they've locked on other locked on target run This is this is by the way. This is how the book Kill decision from Daniel Suarez kind of starts out It's a great read and at time to read that book again people Read your documentation And we'd like some love karma for some better luck with the Japanese boys. And if it isn't too greedy, some career karma keep up the great work on the best podcast in the universe. Hold on a second is Brendan he or she? I think he's referring to business deals

2:02:11 I would love some love life karma for some better luck with the Japanese boys. Oh, maybe it's a guy and he likes Japanese boys? I have no idea! I just want to know that's all... It's fine with me obviously You've got karma Hello, hello. I am bicurious you know Thomas Lees in London 69 so oops hey where is this thing? 69! 69 dudes I was waiting for you to set me up. Thank you for the great show it makes this endless slog of traveling to and from work much easier, i'm through the final stage of a three-month interview process for an nuclear industry job so please can I get some shutupitsciencejobkarma? Absolutely! And we really hope you get that gig because uh... I support the industry. Shut Up already

2:03:01 Science! Science! You've got karma. Science! Science! Nathan Salazar in Phoenix, Arizona Greetings from Arizona nuts with drones being in the news lately I'm sure sheriff Joe will be announcing his plan for Maricopa County own drones. I wonder if they will be pink My friend Bryce who punched me in the mouth needs some getting laid karma, okay? Happy to hand it out our specialty you've got karma Jason block and Brooklyn New York, Jason Block here. I am the Jeopardy champion with the killer resume who is still unemployed after almost two years. Oh yeah he won a ton of money on that. Yeah like 40 grand or something Last night i was catching up on the February 3rd show and woke up at 333 this morning. Whoa! Hello? I saw that as a sign to be a donor and not a boner

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2:04:47 ITM MoFo is from Montclair, New Jersey. Nuts! Birthplace of Buzz Aldrin and unfortunate victim of mind control who believes he walked on the moon over 40 years ago My donation is in honor of my fiancé Don Rosakis who turns 33 on the 13th She's a lot 33 at the love of my life and her knowledge and passion for the truth is truly humbling also smoking hot Please add her to the birthday list and give her some magic number plus LGY birthday karma. You've got karma I didn't know Buzz Aldrin was from Montclair, I lived up there on Glen Road yo right past Montclair Kimberly Academy Dimitri Ferozeev

2:05:43 Think the dose you have a dossier in London ah that segments over oh Well what happened I don't know it like broke. Oh hold on a second, and I broke it. I just many 69 Sorry, I don't know what happened ourselves be broke thank for the show guys I've been listening for more than three years now can I get some karma of course? You can here you go you've got karma. Scott Olson in San Diego California 53 56 33 ITM Janice and asterisk salutations and well wishes to the minds behind the best podcast in the universe let's have a honored and humbled karma or if that's not available I'll take a to the climate gate plus shut up at science karma

2:06:43 To the gate, to the gate, to the climbin' gate. Shut up already! Science! You've got karma. Sweet combo! That was a goodie. That's a sweet one. Ya nailed it. Mike Bruno in Beachville Nova Scotia. Greetings from Halifax. He's actually was he is but still Nova Scotia Can I get some karma for my fellow? Hale Gonians who are digging out from under the blizzard of 2013 You've got karma Double nickels on the dime from Kevin Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado. I appreciate you two and keep up the good work You know what's funny because this blizzard happened and i'm like perfect opportunity to go check out the hams I couldn't find anyone like saving anybody

2:07:35 You can talk about the hands are supposed to it's isn't what the hams are supposed to be like all over it Yeah, the hams would just should have been out in mass. Yeah, very weakened in Or why again we can noblesville indiana $50 Mike? Metal Laurie yeah is that right or metal Oni sorry Mike Madeloni and Chicago In the morning, John and Adam. And greetings from Gitmo Nation's shooting gallery I'm a long time boner first-time donor please give me a deducing karma for getting my finances in order so i can finally donate them and so I can donate more and in the morning because I can't get enough of it

2:08:16 Thank you for all you do and keep hitting him in the mouth. We'll do it in that order, sir! You've been D-douche'd... ...You've got Karma In the morning And finally Jason Normandin in Milford Massachusetts nuts $50 and if he has a note send it again please That's it? Well I'm not going to complain It is your choice, this is your choice to donate Everything else is free on the program. Free, as in beer literally free like Linux...free Are we like Linux? Are we the Linux of podcasting? It's getting to look that way Yeah well we need our kernel recompiled then from time to time that's good I've been working on some Linux recently You have? Yes! I got one uh..I got a Raspberry Pi and i got an Odroid are you familiar with these products No

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Tech Show Banter, Raspberry Pi

The hosts engage in lighthearted banter about potential tech show collaborations and new hardware like the Raspberry Pi and Odroid. They also briefly discuss the Mecum Auto Auctions and the appeal of classic car collecting.

raspberry pi· molly wood· tech show· mecum auctions· odroid

2:09:16 Really? You don't know about the raspberry pie? I had raspberry pie about two months ago. They get some great raspberries up in Port Angeles Wow, I hope you're on Twit today and you'll fit right in with that crowd Go on. I want to tell us your story about your little devices Never mind, that's fine Hey um... No no you know i'm a little tired of the cynicism and the little devices and we know you're gay We know you drug dealer Why don't you go find someone else do this show with okay? Okay alright Alright I got it Dr Kiki Great

2:09:53 I think that'd be a great show. You could pack them in! I would listen for sure Yeah, yeah know you would. I'd be all over that show And then i can finally do my tech show with Molly Wood. Life will be great Which is what you've always wanted to do Well she's lucky she didn't do it with me But yeah, I'd love to do a tech show She didn't do what with you? I was trying to get her to do a tech show with me Oh, I thought he meant something else Oh please... oh, I like her too much Mickey knows we like we'd like Molly too much no she's she's Molly is my dude friend I'm telling you she calls Mickey up about girly stuff and the other eat ice cream and cry and whatever yeah and then she called generality

2:10:43 I'm just ice cream and Molly calls me up. It says see that makes him auto auction lately Oh, man, I love that big block This is Molly. She's awesome. She is the perfect friend. Have you ever watched the Meacham auctions? Yes, of course I do! I love those. I think he does watch them. I can't stand them Oh really now I like watching them it's cool. I watch them and then say oh man why can't make more money than buy that Corvette That's what that's what I'd do too like wow how can I make more money and buy that It's only $70,000 dollars. It's a steal Actually they have cars going off at 30 grand that are just unbelievably nice

2:11:20 30 grand hello You got 30 grand laying around you know just screw. You go do your show with Kiki 30 grand Please I'm not buying anything and driving around a 20 year old car Yeah, that's right. Yeah me too It's with an eye gutters a nail in the tire now. Oh yeah, no you can't pull it out cuz you know Yeah, it just goes flat. You gotta take it in I know It's one of those deals Okay So this is a value for value proposition The only way we keep it going as with your support become a producer an executive producer associate executive producer Get yourself on the way to knighthood to baronies And this is something that the decision is yours Is what you like to do and we appreciate the help vorac org slash n a

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Benghazi Investigation, CIA Weapons Operations

The investigation into the Benghazi attack is revisited, with the hosts asserting it was a CIA operation involving weapons smuggling to Syria. They suggest the event was a botched kidnapping plot intended to benefit the 2012 presidential campaign.

benghazi· cia· syria· libya· weapons smuggling

2:12:13 It's your birthday, birthday. Oh no one can go... Happy Birthday! And now we get to do a knighting and a damehood. She's 20, so she is... well you can't- Is it 21 now everywhere to drink? I believe so yeah Well not at the No Agenda night table!

2:13:06 Step forward, David Foley. Both of you are about to join the illustrious collection here of Knights and Dames at the Noah Jenner Roundtable because of donations in your name or personally in the amount of $1,000 or more so I hereby pronounce Sir David Foley as Dame Heidi of Bulgaria, Knight and Dame of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Come on down for you! We got hookers & blow, red boys in Chardonnay hot pants and booze winches and beer ruminants women at Rose, geishas and sake vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead And I would suggest Dame Heidi the Red Boys in Chardonnay might be nice for you this time You don't have to be 21 here at the round table. I'm sure your dad will agree

2:13:53 We'll find out in a further email. In the future, in a further email. Further email. Hey Curry man it was really not cool what you did there that was like really not okay man so I did a little C-SPAN work for y'all and I just wanted to because you know it's almost like we've covered the Benghazi thing front to back we know it was supposed to be a kidnapping, ironically it was supposed to help President Obama clench the election. To wrap it up and put a bow around it and of course unfortunately oh crap they killed him

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

General Martin Dempsey, Benghazi Security Warnings

Testimony from General Martin Dempsey and Senator John McCain reveals that the military was aware of the security threats in Benghazi but received no request for support from the State Department. The segment mentions the subsequent removal of General Carter Ham from his post.

martin dempsey· john mccain· benghazi· state department· general ham

2:14:35 Now, a couple of things you need to know. This was really a CIA operation there were weapons involved which of course have been sent to Syria they're sent all over the Arab world of course this is the true nature of the Obama administration running drugs everywhere to light stuff on fire so that we can benefit from that economically financially and privately not for UNI citizens by the way So just to add to our thesis, I have three quick clips just to prove that this was completely set up and no one gave a crap, and they were just letting it play out as it was supposed to play out. First question and answer from actually from John McCain who I guess is doing it for fun because he's complicit in all this stuff He IS the military industrial complex poster boy Is asking Dempsey The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

2:15:33 if there was any support requested for the... they keep referring it to a consulate but you can go look at the State Department website, there is no nor has ever been an embassy or a consulate in Benghazi. Tripoli yes, there is no house next door to this CIA place did you ever get the message that said they could not withstand a sustained attack on the consulate? I was tracking that intelligence, I was tracking through General Kim. Did you receive that information? I did and saw it didn't bother ya. It bothered me a great deal but why never received your request to do so number one and number two

2:16:16 We never heard of the Ambassador Stevens repeated warnings about the lack of security. I had sir, through General Ham but we never received a request for support from the state department. And by the way after General Ham mentioned that what happened to General Ham? Out! Fired! The State Department which would have allowed us to put forces on the government's fault. So it was the State Department's fault. I'm not blaming the State Department i'm sure they had their own assessment. Who would you blame? character who is responsible and it was clear that an assessment was made that they could not withstand the sustained attack on the consulate with being september eleventh and many other indications uh... now listen to this listen to what he's about so i'll of that around that board over there are various attacks that have already taken place in uh... i stand by the report of the accountability review board but i would also say senator

2:17:06 I was also concerned at that time with Sanaa in Yemen, Khartoum Islamabad Peshawar Kabul Baghdad we had some pretty significant intel threat streams against Are we awesome or what? Do you hear all the places that were messing up people's lives How awesome is that? Listen man, I was really busy on September 11th. This is like Christmas for me okay! You know I got like Kabul...I've got Yemen..I've got Islamabad....I'm a busy guy on September 11th you know I am like Santy Claus alright so I have to rain terror from the sky and I just missed Benghazi! Sue Me!

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Benghazi Response Testimony

The testimony of Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta regarding the night of the Benghazi attack is analyzed. The hosts highlight the lack of communication between the State Department, the Pentagon, and the White House during the seven-hour duration of the assault.

hillary clinton· benghazi· leon panetta· drones· white house

2:17:49 So how about Hillary? Was she involved in, you know of course we had not one but two drones with cameras watching this was going on. Seven hours to attacks over the seven hour period. You know we saw both the president and the Secretary of State in tears and distraught as the coffins came off the C-17, which we never see for servicemen and servicewomen but only of course for civilians or I should call them diplomats. And crying it was so horrible oh my god! In between 942 p.m Benghazi time when the first attack started at 515 a.m when Mr. Dougherty and Mr Woods lost their lives

2:18:35 What conversations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton? We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton. And General Dempsey, the same is true for you? Yeah yeah no sorry she was having her hair done he had no time she didn't give a crap oh and what about the president I mean his Rose Garden speech do you think that he was like up all night had that blue jacket on With the blue jeans, you know what I'm talking about? You sit there in the situation room. Yeah, that's what he was in the picture wearing. Yeah! The Situation Room... So we didn't ask you what ability we had in the area and what we could do

2:19:18 No, I think he relied on both myself as secretary and General Dempsey's capabilities. He knows generally what we've deployed into the region We presented that to him in other briefings so he knew generally what was deployed out there but as to specifics about time etc., no he just left that up to us Did you have any further communications with him that night? No. He went to bed, okay? He went to bed! Did you have any other further communications did he ever call you that night to say how are things going what's going on where is the consulate no but uh... no no no not really no We were aware that as we were getting information on what was taking place there particularly when we got information that the ambassador

2:20:13 His life had been lost. We were aware that that information went to the White House Did you communicate with anyone else at the White House that night? No. No, no... I love how it says- The whole thing was supposed to be a scripted deal and why would they be calling them all the time worried about sick But then when he found out his life had been lost which is what kind of- Is it so hard for a man who has been the Secretary of Defense and a man who has been in charge of the CIA is it's so hard to say he was killed Life has been lost. Oh, it's like it's not like you lose your wallet. It was like what? His life has been lost sorry no one else called you to say What how are things well now they can find it Okay, not no one call know because they all knew what it was supposed to be but then they he's like You know it's like

2:21:08 You know, it's like oh I went wrong man. I got to tell the press you know what we called the White House but you know everyone went to bed because they knew it was going to be a bogus of kidnapping Since then has the president asked you why weren't we able? To get in light of the second attack that occurred seven hours later Armed assets there in order to help those who were left and attacked in the annex The President has made very clear to both myself and General Dempsey that with regards to future threats we have got to be able to deploy forces in a position where we can more rapidly respond. But just to be clear, that night he didn't ask you what assets we had available and how quickly they could respond and what we could do to help those individuals there? I think the biggest problem that night Senator was nobody knew really what was going on there

2:21:59 Except they did know that the ambassador had lost his life, which they say... They had all those drones in the air. They were carefully monitoring the whole thing. You know why are we the only show that even has this theory? I have yet to hear anybody deal with this theory and all we do on this show is back up the theory We don't do it as much as we used to, but every time we bring something into the show about this theory all it does is back up the theory. Yeah and nobody even considers, oh it's crazy! It's a conspiracy talk. You're nuts you're crazy you two well that's why people don't do it because of exactly that they don't like the... yeah have you noticed someone I know this was a blog post or where I picked this up but the term now is common sense

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

False Memories Study, Political Bias

A study from the University of California, Irvine, on "false memories of fabricated political events" is discussed. The research suggests that both conservatives and liberals are prone to remembering fake news events that align with their existing political biases.

false memories· uc irvine· political orientation· propaganda· psychology

2:22:52 Common sense is a very interesting history, but the term is common. The president's using it all the time It's common sense so we do not have common sense to be thinking this way There's a study of number of people who sent this to me and it is hold on a second False memories... let me just bring it up here. I gotta adjust my glasses for my blindness, I will go to see my obstetrician by the way. The study is titled false memories of fabricated political events

2:23:31 Study done by University of, let's see Stephen Frenda, University of California Irvine Department of Psychology and Social Behavior. University of California Irvine is this a good credible university? Is it say a good institution actually it's for certain kinds of research okay I'll just read you the abstract as eight pages in total In the largest false memory study to date, 5269 participants were asked about their memories for three true and one of five fabricated political events. Each fabricated event was accompanied by a photographic image purportedly depicting that event

2:24:15 Approximately half the participants falsely remembered the false event happened, with 27% remembering that they saw the events happen on the news. Political orientation appeared to influence the formation of false memories, not unimportant, with conservatives more likely to falsely remember seeing Barack Obama shaking hands with the president of Iran And liberals more likely to remember George W. Bush vacationing with a baseball celebrity during Hurricane Katrina disaster A follow-up study supported the explanation that events are more easily implanted in memory when they are congruent with a person's preexisting attitudes and evaluations, in part because attitude congruent false events promote feelings of recognition and familiarity which in turn interfere with source attributions. This is exactly why both Fox and

2:25:10 And MSNBC and NBC and CNN are pretty much run by the same people. They're just giving different versions of the bull crap because you will believe anything, doesn't matter what side you're on as long as they just say it, you'll believe it. It's beautiful! Great study something you should look into at the very least. This is what I mean with this whole…it's all around us, the whole… Yeah no we're screwed. You know, I don't like bringing up Sandy Hook unless there's something I got because we might just call it crazy conspiracy nut jobs. Nut jobs! So these kids are being pimped out everywhere Now we have one of the kids on the Dr Oz show Because you know...Dr Oz is a whore He has to use the kids to get more ratings and they're wearing green ribbons by the way This is the Sandy Hook Green Ribbon

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Dr. Oz Sandy Hook Segment, Child Interviews

A segment on the Dr. Oz show featuring children from Sandy Hook Elementary is criticized for being overly rehearsed. The hosts point out a moment where a child mentions a "drill," suggesting the children were coached on what to say for the cameras.

dr. oz· sandy hook· child psychology· media ethics· green ribbon

2:26:07 And he asked the kid a question and I want you to listen to the answer. The video is great because you see the parent like kneeing the kid, elbowing the kid because he fucks up. He's in third grade. Thank You Louie! I asked all the kids what questions they want me to ask because obviously this is a sensitive topic so... So first of all, so in other words the questions were prepared So it's not a journalistic interview, it's like I asked all the kids and of course these are not the kids. The handlers sometimes known as parents are saying here is what you can ask my child My child has been programmed to answer this question. Louis do you want me to ask what you remembered from that day? Yes! I remember that a lot...a lot of policemen were in school Well..I was like

2:27:07 like, hiding under... when we were having a drill. We were hiding under like- Did you hear it? We're having a drill. Mmhmm And then we were hiding under the desk and now the parent is like elbowing the kid and he can't any-and just completely loses it Take your time there's no hurry Go ahead Let me ask- take your time Now remember how we rehearsed this I'm Dr. Oz What would you like to say to your teachers about Friday Well..I didn't I said the kids lost it. Kids screwed it up! We were having a drill, but did they have any drill on that day? Am I missing some information here? Well, I think the litany would be that they told the kids it was a drill because they were trying to keep them safe from the mad gunman. Ah okay right That's the way I would do it. That's right there you go sure

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

TSA Identification, Costco Card Security Hack

An undercover investigation by KPIX 5 found that TSA agents at Bay Area airports would accept a Costco card as a valid form of identification. The discussion clarifies that while ID is not legally required to fly, travelers without it undergo more intensive screening.

tsa· costco card· airport security· kpix· identification

2:28:13 Anyway, I have an interesting little tidbit because you know how you're always promoting people taking their going valet and all this other bull crap when they hit the TSA lines. Well excuse me it's not bull crap it is a very enjoyable process. It's good! I think that's really great way to go but I do it...I never get x-rayed And I talk to the guys have a good conversation I always ask them some pertinent question I learn something Well this is interesting, I didn't know that you could get in through the lines and apparently according to the website you can with a Costco card. Now i'm recommending to top your thing only use your Costco card to go through the TSA line here's part of the report. A surprising way to get through Bay Area checkpoints You just need a Costco card Alan Martin with the undercover investigation you'll only see right here on KPIX 5

2:29:04 Whether you travel for business or pleasure, getting on an airplane can be a hassle navigating all the scanners and metal detectors. They've always got some new sign up even grandmas and kids don't get an easy pass I'm about as vanilla as can be Giants pitcher Sergio Romo had a run-in with security in Las Vegas after failing to show proper ID, according to the TSA. And while most of us travel with a passport or driver's license it turns out you don't need either! If you don't have an I.D., you can still fly KPIX 5 went undercover at each of the Bay Area major airports. At SFO our producer got through with student IDs and personal credit cards

2:29:48 TSA agents said they'd accept a Costco card. Yeah, so a couple things with this report first of all you do not need identification to travel This is you have the freedom of movement You will of course be Investigated and stripped and scanned in search but there is no law whatsoever true. This is absolutely true You do not I mean if you have to be a good slave which is why people show it anyway Of course this also a very pathetic Attempt at PR for a Costco and clearly the Costco party is the mark of the beast It is obviously you know, the chip that we all have and I thought he'd get it kicked out of him because you hate Costco. I don't hate yeah I do because yes, I do Yeah, so yeah, I do. I do hate Costco You love Costco and you know why I hate Costco? Remember why I hate Costco. I know exactly what you hate. Why do I hate Costco?

2:30:47 I know why you hate Costco. Why do i hate Costco? If you know it, then you'll know all. Because they would not take your money! That's correct that's what I found highly amusing. That's correct the whole moment I was there yeah It was your idea that's why you were there Your idea. Now is a total Costco hater? Ah, yes I am it's the market literally would not take his money was very very funny to watch but this report is so its irksome this report because this is not about I mean It's submitting even more into the into the machine. It's by saying you know

2:31:23 You know as long as you have something to prove. This is no actually the be honest about just mark a report Yeah, I only clipped it at the very end of the report They indicated you did not need anything At all to get on a plane you but you would be questioned Yeah. And to make sure that you were, they'd ask if you knew anything about it... For example I think was like if you're in a stalag during World War II they will grill the new prisoners and so far as what baseball team supposedly the way movies play it. Who won the World Series? The TSA does the same thing yeah So that means you would never get on a plane because you don't know anything about baseball

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Steny Hoyer, 22nd Amendment Repeal Efforts

Representative Steny Hoyer's comments regarding the repeal of the 22nd Amendment are discussed in the context of Bill Clinton's enduring popularity. The hosts speculate on how Bill Clinton's health or legacy might be used as a political tool for a future Hillary Clinton presidential run.

steny hoyer· bill clinton· 22nd amendment· term limits· hillary clinton

2:32:06 Yeah, right. Well you know what... I can assemble my AR-15 with my eyes closed okay? Here's another uh this is a more interesting clip this is Steny Hoyer who was a douchebag par excellence introducing Bill Clinton and admitting that they tried to pass a law in Congress to allow Clinton the run for third term I thought you might be interested in a little story. I have supported a constitutional amendment, introduced to the constitutional amendment many many congresses to repeal the 22nd Amendment which says that people can't re-elect a president for third term Henry Hyde who some of you remember was chairman of the judiciary committee co sponsored that with me he was an opponent of term limits

2:32:52 So in 2005, I went up to him after the election and said Henry, I'm going to put that bill in again. He said fine this is a Thursday. Said fine so I put his name in we're gonna introduce the bill but coming Tuesday on Tuesday We came back Nancy Henry was sitting on this one of the seats called me over and said Steny I don't want you to put my name on that bill. I said Henry You've co-sponsored this for about five Congress he said yes But I went back, discussed it with my staff and they say if we pass that amendment Bill Clinton may be re-elected. A few days later as I said he asked me to take his name off that bill when i ask him why he told me It was a reflection of the respect and to some degree the fear certainly in the Republican Party they have about Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton of course after his presidency has continued

2:33:53 to set his sights on service. Right now, servicing the interns Now, this is a... you know I mean they're always trying to do this. They're trying to eliminate that 22nd amendment which is like not..I don't know why because you never gonna get any of these guys out offices knowing fact that they would keep voting in Obama till hell freezes over and he's a young man so we've done what we don't need but you can be sure the going try it again But here's... while listening to this I came into this interesting kind of red book prediction Okay Bill Clinton will not be alive if Hillary Clinton runs for president. Either before she starts her run or during her run, which would actually better something's going to happen to him for two reasons one it would get her in because people will be so sentimental about good old Bill so she'll win easily Oh can you just see it? I can just see the speeches already You know in the tradition of the great President Bill Clinton carrying the torch

2:34:57 Oh yeah. And more importantly, the Clinton library everybody is pretty sure it is so corrupt and rife with donations from Saudi people and there's just a lot of sketchy money in there Yeah In fact all of his organizations have a lot of problems if they were investigated during a Hillary run That will cut that off He's done! He's gone got nothing to do with me And so she could divorce herself, not from Bill but from all these organizations that people are very suspicious of. And that's what she needs to do. She can't be associated with the Clinton Library In fact this is what everybody said during the last run They say why don't they start looking at the Clinton Library? That's going to get Hillary in trouble. Shit! The stream is breaking up Oh I know why...I'm sorry I was downloading porn

2:35:51 Anyway, so that's a red book for me. So we have it'll be 2015 to 20 Say you know that would hear that little period is where he has to if I was him? I wouldn't be anywhere near the US of A I'd be on the road All right Then let me lay something on your boy Is it two four two four here at the end of the show you ready for a twofer yeah okay and This is agenda 21. You know what that is, right? Agenda 21 is the global United Nations indoctrination campaign to think about all things green and sustainable and the best way to do that of course is to eat people. That's the best way. And what comes into the agenda 21 conversation is climate change

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Bill Nye, Climate Change and Asteroids

CNN's use of Bill Nye to link a recent blizzard and an approaching asteroid to global warming is mocked. The hosts criticize the media's tendency to attribute all natural phenomena to climate change and debate the pronunciation of "kilometers."

bill nye· climate change· asteroids· cnn· global warming

2:36:42 and climate change is pretty much responsible for everything. Well, back to our top story the blizzard every time we see a storm like this lately the first question to pop into a lot of people's minds is whether or not global warming is to blame I'll talk to Bill Nye So whenever I see... Wait a minute they're bringing in Bill Nye? Oh yeah that's part two of the clip so um whenever there's a blizzard my-the first thing that pops into my mind the first question is am I gonna be safe Who's gonna dig out the car? No. According to the prostitute at CNN, the first question is... Is this climate change and global warming?!

2:37:27 God knows we've never seen a blizzard in our lifetime. Now let's continue with the same prostitute, with another question! We want to bring in our science guy Bill Nye and talk about something else that is falling from the sky... And that is an asteroid What's coming our way? Is this an effect of perhaps global warming or just some New York...? And you know people is like yeah that makes sense fuck man stop stop driving your car and even get on the air

2:38:10 How does Bill Nye get on the air is my question. That jabroni doesn't need to be on the air either, it's Mickey Mouse television. What did he say to that? Hmm... Occasionally. You're nuts lady! Um I have this thing on the asteroid if you want Well, why don't we bring in our science guy Bill Nye and talk about something else that's falling. That's the wrong one... I don't know if i have his exact answer to that As the one who created what is called the Tunguska event in Siberia in 1908 If such a meteor were to hit Atlanta or New York City Or Boston, that would be it for those municipalities The thing with about 2000 square kilometers

2:38:52 1200 square miles. Is it kilometers or kilometers? I'm always suspicious of people who say kilometers, and i think kilometers is... Kilometers is the way I think it should be pronounced but I think kilometers.. Is that more like a science way as you're more scientists if you say kilometers? No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no you'll be like celebrities celebrity's kill me no I don't know kilometers is a way it should be pronounced by science that destroyed flattened ruined but that's our viewers don't get nervous oh don't get nervous viewers that's not gonna happen we're not gonna get killed by the asteroid from global warming just the mean

2:39:30 A meteor is sort of going up and above the planet Earth, right? That's a meteor. Yeah get nervous but not about this one This one will miss us by about 15 minutes How does... I love the 15 minutes What?! It's like the bus! This woman misses by 15 minutes Hey bus driver they opened the door It will miss us by 15 minutes. Oh boy, I wish I was on twit today Oh God, please Leo I beg you let me back on to talk about this stuff because you need me the world needs Me too talk about this now You can't have the guy with them. I'll put on the bowtie

2:40:08 Will that make a difference if I put on a bow tie? He's not going to talk about this topic. Of course he is, it's science! 15 minutes difference and that's it there are about 100... I'll bet you one silver coin one silver coin this topic the fifteen minutes is discussed on Twit today so okay what has to be discussed now hopefully some will see the promise of chatroom we're going into that chatterman try to get at this but I'll say this I'll bet you the silver coin that this topic and the term 15 minutes has to be used as we just missed it by fifteen minutes. Yeah, I'm in on the bet! Fifteen minutes? So you think that won't happen?

2:40:53 I'm saying no, they won't discuss it. It's got nothing to do with anything. And winner gets to choose which silver coin because... Now you're adding two! I'm just giving you a silver... I'm giving you an ounce of silver. Yes, that's it and I'm choosing coins You're not gonna come drummaging around the house. Oh look at this! I'm taking this one No Not gonna happen Make the bet or not? I'm in on the bet. I'm gonna win this bet And then I have a clue for you because you keep mistaking John O Brennan for Paul Bremer. Yeah, John O Brennan the guy who used to run it Iraq Iraq that's right so Iraq was Paul Bremer

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Paul Bremer, Shoe Throwing Incidents

Former Iraq administrator Paul Bremer was targeted by a shoe-thrower during an event in London. The segment explains the cultural significance of the gesture in the Arab world and notes a similar incident involving Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Cairo.

paul bremer· iraq· shoe throwing· ahmadinejad· cairo

2:41:42 Not John O. Brennan. So he got shooed the other day in Britain, a dude came in and threw... He got shooed? Bremer?! Yes! Good! I got the audio it was very funny so I'll tell you what happens because of course this is an Iraqi guy and he stands up and the video is hilarious and he's like hey Bremen yeah I got two presents for you one from Saddam Hussein the other one from the Iraqi people whose country you fucked up and he throws these shoes at him and Bremer actually tries to catch one of them. I'm from Iraq and I came to London in 2005 after the Iraq war, after USA destroyed the country. Now listen to the response of the crowd when they... because that's the thing that is most interesting me is how people respond to what in the Arab world one of the largest it's like your mother wears army boots only to the max showing someone your heel or throwing a shoe was huge insult. This one from Saddam Hussein

2:42:50 uh... the and the country for you but democracy and here's the british people He threw a shoe and then Bremer at the end The audio is little crappy. He says, you know if we didn't if we hadn't kicked Saddam Hussein out You wouldn't be able to say that in Iraq. You'd be a dead man right now

2:43:35 It's just unbelievable. I love it, I love it when... Ahmadinejad also got a shoe the other day. At least one protester has been arrested for throwing a shoe at the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad A shoe? He was throwing a shoe! Oh my goodness this is very weird they way they throw shoes That was during a visit to a mosque in Egyptian capital Cairo The shoe did not appear to hit, Mr. Ahmadinejad but the president made a hasty retreat showing the sole of his shoe is a grave insult in the Arab world. The Brits don't get it! The guy throwing... Of course not. Throwing shoes what a waste of a shoe. People are like oh idiots this is idiocy. He threw a shoe he threw a shoe and the guy was anyway um we're done now we're done with this what week are we

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

FBI Entrapment Cycles, Oakland Bank Plot

The arrest of a San Jose man for a plot to bomb a Bank of America in Oakland is framed as part of a recurring six-week FBI "entrapment" cycle. The hosts argue that these cases often involve the FBI providing the means and motivation to otherwise incapable individuals.

fbi· entrapment· oakland· bank of america· terrorism

2:44:30 How many weeks has this new year been going on? Uh, four. No! Three. Are we... no! Six. Six week?! We're in the sixth week!? What happens every six weeks? What? Come on! You know what- we've talked about this on the frickin' show! What?? Hollywood discussed and I said- Oh shoot that's a wrong one. Nice punchline. The FBI!! Oh yeah, no they always set some guy up. You're right it's a six week cycle Six week cycle! Here is what we have to do next show the show we do before it marks six weeks We have to make the prediction But you heard about this? The FBI got the... Yeah I found some other dumb guy By the way try and find a photo of this guy I think I found one The guy looks like a complete moron And I think he's like a homeless guy or something Hey buddy would you like

2:45:26 Hey, you want to bomb a place? Yeah. I'll bomb a place sure! and you've got some guy, some idiot and they talked him into it. And then he had them dial the phone a couple of times to blow up the Bank Of America over here in Oakland Matthew Aaron Laneza of San Jose Another earmark of something phony about it But its six weeks! Its like clockwork They look at the calendar like oh yeah What is six weeks from now? That'll I think that's when we have our 50th anniversary 500 shows. That's on the 30th Let me just see let me just check so one let me just see February is 1 2 3 is the first week of March and then 4 5 it's just before the fight at the five hundred So around the time, so that'll be our earmark or remember around the 500 episode

2:46:26 Do we have a special... Right, this should be another event. It takes apparently six weeks to set these things up? No it's probably small very small team of FBI people Yeah no it's not the setup its the setup sometimes takes months but the announcement cycle is every six weeks Yeah, there's probably three or four of these in play as we speak. Yes, they're holding off This is getting boring I'm ready with this guy no no by the way suicidal anyway What are we gonna do if he kills himself? Can we give this guy the cell phone yet come on man? I want to give him the cell phone It's time it's time besides a cell phone. It's always the same thing yeah, how come it's always a cell phone on the backpack come on oh

2:47:06 It's getting boring. They gotta spice it up a little bit Well this guy the idea they had was that he was trying to blow up the bank blame it on Right-wing Republicans to start a civil war that was his genius logical sense That was his genius idea Start a civil war by blowing up the Bank of America, which would upset nobody by the way And then blame it on the Republicans who'd probably get more votes to be honest about it than they did last election. Yeah, and then a civil war would begin for some unknown reason. What an idiot!

CHAPTER 41 / 41 Discussion

Spam House Filters, Show Outro

The hosts discuss improvements in email spam filtering and the upcoming 500th episode of the show. They conclude the broadcast with a reminder of the "value for value" model and sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

spam house· email filters· 500th episode· austin· south by southwest

2:47:43 This all makes sense. Oh the FBI busted another guy yay for the FBI I think a lot of people are catching on to this scam by the way on the internets so the 500th episode That'll be pretty big do we have a special donation thing for like you know five hundred pennies Yeah, five hundred pennies and it's five bucks We'll work on something this week I ended up 500 times maybe. Have you have you been receiving all the emails of and forwarding to you regarding designs for the night pins? Yeah, yeah i'm looking at them now okay please people uh you can see me but don't email them to me alone and put John first in the two address because this is not my responsibility on the show

2:48:37 This is you right. No, I mean, yeah, I just want to make it clear because I don't know why they're sending anything to you and oh and and kudos to Spam house org they've changed something You know, you know Zen dot spam house org or whatever It is one of these it's the biggest email blacklist service that everyone so I run my own mail server and all of a sudden people are like Hey man, your email's bouncing back! You're bouncing back!" And of course the first question I always ask is did you read what the bounce message said? No. I deleted it. This is how people... I like the way-I like your character Well this is exactly what people do when they see there is information in that message This is an Adam Curry hater guy There's information in the bounce back email Yes, lots of information in there That will help you understand what happened

2:49:34 And so they've refined and it even kicked an email back to Miss Mickey. And I'm like, of course I said to Mickey do you have the email? She says of course I saved the email what do you think i am some idiot?! So go look at the bounce message...and she had sent me an email that just said subject line contact I'm like, I love this. This is how good Spam House has become because you know contact is like the number one dating site bullcrap spam email you get? Contact dot dot dot and so it's bouncing and she comes in from a .Mac address

2:50:14 So it's bouncing that back. So something has changed and they're getting really good, and I find it very enjoyable that you have to now figure out how to get through my spam filter." And this is a product John that I'm now developing because what's the problem with this process? The problem is the bounce message sucks! So instead of a bounce message that has headers and all this crap, it's going to be your email was not smart enough to get through to me. Think about how cool that is! That people then have to take time to create a subject line that makes sense in order to get through the spam filter. Do you think it would cut back on dumb communication?

2:51:00 Maybe. Forwards? I have no idea. If it says FWD colon, blocks! No more forwards Don't just forward crap to me You want to communicate something to me do some work What do you think? Well i forward stuff to you all the time and you forward stuff to me all the time Yeah but this is...I love you You got me on the white list Of course I have a white list But this forwarding that people do Here's my other favorite You've got to listen to this show, it's great. It's only five hours long you'll love it! Great clips!" This is not a helpful email people... I have life and work. No agenda producer update will- Better get your pet peeve out of the way before the show ended. Yeah well gotta do something. Hey, if people donate I'll work more

2:51:55 Noah Jender, producer update is coming up live on the streams. It's been a while since we've had one of those so uh MrOil, SirGitmoSlave I don't know if VoidZero was on there If he...I know he...I don't know if he participates in this show He should Go on there and tell these guys how great they are that their keeping all this stuff running for us I dunno what happened some of the stream was buffering I'm not sure why That's probably anticipation of the move What? What? What?! Snatched? 10-21. What the hell are you talking about? NDAA, Section 1021. Oh, section 1021. Yeah So we'll be back on Thursday and uh... We'll be back with another doozy of a show here to protect your sanity It actually is good for your physical health as well knowing that it's bullcrap And that's what we cut through Coming to you from Austin Texas home of South by Southwest In the morning I'm Adam Curry

2:52:56 And from Northern Silicon Valley, and without further ado I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on NO Agenda The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n a