Spying is Sharing

00:00 It's about sharing, Adam. It's about sharing. Thank you. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, December 20th, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 471. This is no agenda. A bright but painfully awkward young man here coming to you from Gitmo Nation Lowlands day 14 living in exile in Amsterdam in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the sleigh bells are ringing as the some sort of a weird carts going down the street I'm John C. Dvorak You know I'm glad you bring that up I'm so happy that

00:40 You've not only insulted me now with your so-called fake Santa Claus, like I'm 12 or something... But you also, as somebody, as anybody, wait, wait till the Norad, every year they have the Norad report. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But also it's like you sent out this newsletter. Okay. I just got a gripe about this. You sent out this newsletter and there's like, and by the way, you guys should know the process is that John always sends me the newsletter beforehand and says, you know, take a, you know, have a look over. And I say, oh, that's cool. And I'm reading there. Oh, you know, Roger McGuinn, he made a Christmas song for us. Like, this is going to rock. This is going to be so awesome. And then I get the email. I'm like, it's a freaking Christmas song. There's no agenda content in there. There's no like, there wasn't like, you know, the evil elites or Hillary's going to eat me. You know, you better watch out. None of that. I didn't ask him to write original content.

01:38 But it was one of the Christmas to you send you send it out like oh, this is God. I'm like I'm excited I mean, this is gonna be fantastic and it's just like we wish you a Merry Christmas What happened like a bogatyr new year? I mean any one of our Roger McQueen sure he's a he's a superstar New Year, okay, you know maybe he could read it recut it. I mean he's a like that bogey is a bird. Bogey-dive New Year. I'm sure we can do it. We can write something. But this is the point. It's like the guy's a bird. Okay, I get it. I just thought a Christmas song would be a nice idea. Since when did you become so mushy mashy that you're sending an actual Christmas song with our Gitmo Nation newsletter? What is wrong? What did you do with the real John C. Dvorak? Give him back to me. I think the police are coming to get me.

02:28 I have to deal with this for the rest of the show Anyways, I went to tar and let me explain what I did. Oh, please I went to Target Yeah, and they had all these $1 stocking stuffers. There's a bunch of sound effect devices in there Yeah, anyway stuff that normally you do not give to your kids because they drive you crazy instead I gave it to myself instead you yeah, and you bring them on the best podcast in the universe. It's nice. I So two weeks I've been here now officially. Two weeks and we still have no end date in sight. Yeah that sounds right. Welcome to the US of A government. Yeah and of course you know this is our last show ever. Yeah tomorrow's the big day. Exactly, exactly. It's all over so we got to make this one count.

03:22 Yeah, so what difference does it make if you're in Europe or not? Well, you know some people, you know, of course there's a lot of awakened human resources here in Gitmo Nation lowlands and they're all happy to say hi and they're sending little notes and little tweets and stuff and now stuff on Google Plus because oh yeah I'm building up my engaged audience on Google Plus. Thank you Mike Elgin and he screwed me over. And they're like, well, you know, so a lot of them are really awake and they're in tune. They're like, hey man, the light brought you here for a reason. You're here for the changeover. Oh, this is not in tune. This is nuts. No, you're here for the changeover and there's got to be a reason for it. And you know what? I'm holding on to that a little bit. I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll take that. I'll buy that for a bit. I'm okay. I'm okay with it being a little more special here. I'll tell you something though.

04:16 We don't have this, what I'm calling campaign of tension or the strategy of of terror being bestowed upon the people of Gitmo Lowlands. My goodness, when you sit back a little bit and you're just looking at the news network and stuff that people are posting and kind of the clips from the mainstream that I can't really watch here. Oh my God, you guys are under assault there in America. You're under assault by a bunch of morons on mainstream television. It must hurt just to even touch the remote control to turn it on. You just noticed this? Well, we're not seeing that here, you see. You have to understand that... Remember when 77 kids were killed in Norway?

05:03 Right by Anders Breivik and by the way, you know killed with with a an assault rifle and the guy he was dressed up like a seal and he had all this crazy stuff and he you know, He was in a militant and he shot people and your kids in the head kids in America. We went. Oh, that sucks Yeah, what's a quiz plan on Sunday? You know and here this is the thing is when you have it's like when it's a different community It's like people here like I am well, I guess Obama's gonna You know, get rid of your guns, huh? Because that's kind of lame. There's no conversation about it really. It was headline news obviously when it happened. Was it now a week ago I think? Almost a week ago? Yeah, a week ago. Yeah, headline news. And now it's sporadic, maybe page three or four. It's not discussed at all. In fact,

05:57 I got a note from one of our... Well, you're better... Stop right there. You should consider yourself lucky. You can't get this... No matter what you turn on, it's just nothing but droning on about gun control and how terrible this was. And of course, then there was the cool thing was this... They found out some guy who was, I guess, an actor. I don't know if you saw that clip. No, of course I've seen this. You can see the clip at... Oh, I had a dad... I think it's dadactor.curry.com. I just I knew this would come up and I have spoken to a couple actors here about this so I'm very curious to hear your take on what you think is going on here. I don't have much of a take but I did find the original use of the guy

06:46 And it was on wolf blitzer show. Yeah, I just happen to have it still on the on the DVR and I said Oh my god, there's this character. Well you so you you actually have it Outside of what the what the YouTube clip is because the YouTube clip is pretty crappy. I have to say yeah, and it ends without really this next this guy was a You know somebody said he's an actor or whatever. They say somebody was was Shooting him with it with a phone camera Or no or shooting. So I don't know where they know what it looked like to me from what I saw is that they cut to This press conference early and you can hear wolf blitzer. At least that's the clip I have you can hear wolf blitzer going Okay, we're going to have Forget his name

07:36 Anyway, the dad name is Robbie Parker, right? Robbie Parker We're gonna have him speak and while wolf is doing the voiceover they start to pan over and that's when you see him You know smiling and joking and laughing and then as people claim start to Center himself. I To you know, right he gets into a mode. Yeah. Yeah, and if somebody else's has just read from the card Which is very you can just barely hear I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that He is he is reading from a card. That's correct. And he So he comes out Joking around and then he then he sets himself in front of the camera and then he goes into character That's what it appears to be. Yes

08:18 Yeah, it goes in the character and then they use him, but they only use him for a split second on the actual presentation of the Wolf Blitzer show. And they dramatize the whole thing. I happen to have it if you want to play that. Yeah. Because it actually came out good. And that, the clip is called... The Faker? Fake Actor Dead in Original Context. Let's listen to it. Of the disaster here in Connecticut continues. Oh, first of all, great. This is so much better than the audio I have. Right now. She was the type of person that could just light up the room. She always had something kind to say about anybody.

09:09 A grieving father on his beautiful six-year-old daughter gunned down, gunned down in her own elementary school this hour. Unspeakable pain and unanswered questions in the massacre that has shattered a quiet town and stunned the nation. That's very interesting. This is not what I have. I have something completely different. Now you have made like some something dramatized after the fact or something. This was, I think, one of his original presentations. I think it had to be a little bit after the fact because they had a big picture of Emily with a special typeface. They brought the guy on, they took that little clip, and then I guess apparently Wolf Blitzer figured he was going to get fired any minute so he's practicing for his voiceover work. Gunned down! Gunned down! He did it twice! He's doing a retake now. I caught that. Let me, hold on a second, I have it here somewhere.

10:06 Interesting. This is funny because I think that you, I saw your clip and then I was like, whatever. The audio is pretty bad but you should just take a look at, if you just take a look at the video. I sent you a link. Yeah, I have it here. From one of the sites that has been promoting about this. Let me play this for a second. Okay, hold on a second. Why won't this open people? Let me get your link here That's really helping John that makes me feel great. Just trying to build that air. Okay, it's dead air. We're talking Now he's smiling he's laughing wolf is doing this the voiceover and

11:02 And then he goes into this centering thing. My name's Robbie Parker. Yeah, so you really have to see it. Yeah, no, you have to see it. This is one of those things that we can't really get across on the radio. So let me, maybe this will help a little bit. Let me give you some perspective from what I've been seeing over here as someone who's interested. Most people here are not interested and in fact I have understood from several from our Gitmo Nation East parents that most parents in the UK are not talking to their kids about it, they're turning off the news, they're basically blacking this out because quote they want their kids to have a happy Christmas.

11:51 And they just you know and it's it's not that hard really because as I said It's not like it's all over the news all the time like the assault that you're taking in in the u.s For those of you, of course who are not in the United States of Gitmo nation Here's just a little a little montage of what is going on now to the debate over gun control and what many are calling in this country a watershed moment in the wake of the massacre in New York Some stores are pulling certain guns off their shelves. Are we at a precipice of a sea change about how this nation deals with guns? Why the hell can you buy a weapon of mass destruction? That's what it is. That's the first thing that should be gone. There have been 70, 70 episodes of school shootings in the United States since 1994. Good Lord, really?

12:39 I mean should there be that many? Big city mayors and one of the nation's biggest police unions have called for a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity clips. And for some longtime allies of the gun lobby, this week was a tipping point. The fierce debate continues. Still, the killing of children in cold blood is gripping the nation as few events can and is forcing a hunt for solutions. I love how he uses the word hunt. That's kind of cool. I'm sure the writers were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, with will get what what a couple of things and well first of all when the arrival become a weapon of mass destruction when we'll be goldberg called it a a work well this i gotta tell you the the music everything's a weapon of mass destruction this is like a bug back as word way of saying i was a good thing we invaded iraq because they had uh... so i was a master structure all right well listen to i got a lot of clips because of course he is over here uh... from pierce moron

13:35 Who he really likes to to whoop it up man listen to his? Categorization of what we're talking about here's the thing if he didn't have the guns None of those children would have been shot and so you have to deal with the primary problem that America faces which is guns guns guns gun there's no other problem by the way just guns and it's nothing to do with the second amendment right to defend yourself and everything to do with the lack of manufacturing capability quiet for a second listen to the point he's making weapons that can slaughter these things can fire a hundred bullets in a minute they are machine guns no I'm sorry they're not I'm sorry so this is a meme this is what you are hearing a lot of here people are confusing

14:20 Assault rifles and semi-automatic automatic rifles and what Nancy Pelosi calls? assault magazines they're They're confusing this with idiots. Yeah, exactly Now, let me just step back for a second because I don't know what happened to you John but after Sunday's show I received an inordinate amount of let's just call it feedback and Some could call it hate, out and outright hate. An inordinate amount of feedback from people who obviously have me confused with someone who is paid by the NRA, someone who his entire life has had a gun hung between his thighs. I've never really owned any guns, so to speak of, or to speak of, until we moved to Texas. And I'll get to my feeling about that in a minute.

15:15 But the anger and the insults and people who were claiming to be violently ill listening to me defend guns and have no compassion was not only was it disappointing, disturbing and upsetting, people also forget that both of us, we're dads, we have compassion, we feel, we're not idiots, we're not complete morons, but the reason you listen to this program is to have people ask questions to do exactly the opposite of what the mainstream media is telling you

16:01 I don't know what you received, John, but I got people who were angry from the guns to, you don't know anything about mental health and drugging our kids is necessary. It's like if someone's mentally ill, we have to make sure there's no guns. Doesn't does no one see that what is happening here is an assault on your psyche Not just you but your your kids and what you are doing to your kids This is very very the whole conversation I think is extremely destructive Did you witness any of this or did you just have a lovely week? Lovely week. I didn't get any of this mail get any of this. No bull crap

16:44 Bull crap, you sent me a mail word even I... Oh no, that was one of our normal contacts who does have a... He has an Asperger's kid and he thought that you were a little aggressive because the kid does need medication for some reason. And I'm sure that there are people that do need medication here and there. But the point that we always make is that they just medicate people willy-nilly Turn him into zombies and who knows what they did with this this this kid here because it seems to me He seems like more of a Manchurian candidate if he was even the shooter if you want to take it to that extreme of Conspiracy. Well, so let's let's go there for a second because I have been so the amount of time wasted by the way on emails, you know people I can't open your email anymore unless you put a correct subject line and

16:01 I don't know what you received, John, but I got people who were angry from the guns to, you don't know anything about mental health and drugging our kids is necessary. It's like if someone's mentally ill, we have to make sure there's no guns. Doesn't does no one see that what is happening here is an assault on your psyche Not just you but your your kids and what you are doing to your kids This is very very the whole conversation I think is extremely destructive Did you witness any of this or did you just have a lovely week? Lovely week. I didn't get any of this mail get any of this. No bull crap

16:44 Bull crap, you sent me a mail word even I... Oh no, that was one of our normal contacts who does have a... He has an Asperger's kid and he thought that you were a little aggressive because the kid does need medication for some reason. And I'm sure that there are people that do need medication here and there. But the point that we always make is that they just medicate people willy-nilly Turn him into zombies and who knows what they did with this this this kid here because it seems to me He seems like more of a Manchurian candidate if he was even the shooter if you want to take it to that extreme of Conspiracy. Well, so let's let's go there for a second because I have been so the amount of time wasted by the way on emails, you know people I can't open your email anymore unless you put a correct subject line and

17:35 How many times, the LIBOR thing, please stop insulting yourself. Just do five seconds of research. You know, there is no evidence that this kid's father was going to testify against the banks in the LIBOR scandal, nor was there any evidence about the Aurora shootings dad to testify. I don't even know of any testimony at all. That's the point. There was no hearing scheduled. So where was this guy going to testify? In Switzerland? I don't know. That is sketchy. For some reason, it looks like we just lost our

18:11 I don't know what's going on. Someone will have to take a look at that. Yeah, well then they'll figure it out. So this is a guy who has a theory and he's on Press TV, which is Iranian television. The guy's name is Michael Harris. And he is billed as an American commentator, which either you or I could be. And we're both American commentators, obviously. Oh yeah, we're commentators. Commentator. Now he's from Phoenix. So I tried to find a guy from Phoenix and I found one guy, but it's very, very difficult to find a guy named Michael Harris. I mean, please. But listen to his theory. I want you to look at this in a greater context of things.

18:47 We have had a Zionist controlled Hollywood. Don't you love when they start off like that? Zionist controlled media that is the conduit to all of this violence, these imagery into every home in America. And so you wonder why there's a culture of violence. It is because it comes from the Jews in Hollywood. That's where the that's where the conduit of violence comes from. That's the source of it. But look behind that even deeper. I want to remind you of the Norway shooting of Mr. Breivik. which followed a week after Norway had agreed to support Palestine. Now you look at Israel just lost their bid to thwart Palestine from being recognized by the United Nations. And now here we go, here's a revenge killing in the U.S. sponsored by Israel that killed all these innocent children. How awesome is this guy?

19:36 And that is something that is raised. I mean, I mean, I mean, first it's on Iranian television. So it's like, hello. I mean, OK, we we know you're going to be anti Jews, but this is crazy. Do very, very well. They target the innocent. They target children. They target women. And they they avoid the issue because they're angry. They didn't get their way. And now Palestine has standing in the U.N. and Israel is going to be subject to the International Criminal Court. and their leadership is going to be taken to task. So let's connect the dots here. Whenever someone says connect the dots, back away from the conspiracy. About what's going on globally, geopolitically, with Israel involved. Now, they're also calling for a congressional hearing.

20:18 Now, one thing you can count on with a congressional hearing is there's going to be a cover-up, because all of our congressmen are bought and paid for by the Israel lobby in the U.S. So any truth of this that's going to be, is going to be hidden, because Israel wants it hidden, because they are once again the guilty party. It does it goes somehow the Jews did this in Connecticut. It's going well. It's it's a revenge killing of course Here's what bothers me there was a there was a thing floating around on the Atlantic wire saying that yeah This is just straight-up bad. We were just

20:54 because of guns, where there's nothing else going on. There's no I saw I saw I saw this the whole thing pointed at this particular report that you just played as evidence that these people are you can't point to this report. This report is so bogus. Well, thank you. And this guy is such a stooge. Thank you for bringing this. There are plenty of possibilities here beyond the what's being played out. And I'm just not since you brought this up. Can I just say something about this very point? That article I found to be disturbing because what it really said and this is where I think a lot of this strategy this Strategy of tension is leading a lot of this is meant to discredit anything and everything on the internet It's sure it's being used for gut whatever, you know gun schmutz take them away give them back. It's like, okay fine

21:45 Yes, a lot of it is promoting the pharmaceutical industry. We have to give police officers and we have to give doctors and people the right to shoot people up with medication and make sure you're sedated because obviously you're a menace to society. Yeah, that's part of it. But really, this is all about discrediting the internet. Anything, because if you have any alternative view to anything from the mainstream media, clearly you hate the Jews, clearly you're racist, clearly you're a holocaust denier. I mean this is what I'm seeing, listen to... This is how it works, this is how you do it. Yes, yes, and here is the police chief or the sheriff there in Sandy Hook. Wait a minute, this is a good one too, I'll play that in a second. This is, all right, here it is.

22:34 Here's the the sheriff one thing it's Becoming somewhat of a concern and that is misinformation That's being posted on social media sites sites. It is important to know that we have discussed with federal authorities that these these issues are crimes and They will be investigated statewide and federally. Wait a minute, so if you post something on Facebook that is not true, it's a crime and you'll be prosecuted federally. And prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified.

23:15 We're going to jail! Hey, good luck, Sheriff! All information relative to this case is coming from these microphones and any information coming from other sources cannot be confirmed and in many cases it's been found is inaccurate. Shut up! So I simply, uh, that's the newest twist today. Twist! I love how he throws it. It's the newest twist in what? The script? That we want to make sure that it's perfectly clear. Play the douchebag jingle. Yeah, definitely. Douchebag! Websites that contain information relative to this case are not being posted by the Connecticut State Police. All right, then we have this little report. Right now, millions of people across the country are opening their hearts and wallets to help grieving families in Connecticut.

24:03 Unfortunately, Consumer Problem Solver Connie Thompson says thousands of scammers are already at work taking advantage of your kindness. Yes, and you know how I feel about these buzzards, Mary. The internet is on fire with Sandy Hook scams. It's reportedly so bad even liking a post on Facebook can get you burned. So this is nothing but discredited discrediting everything and anything. Everything. But can I point something, a little discrepancy here? Sure. Why doesn't this idiot cop go after these scammers instead of going after someone posting wrong information which he says they're gonna do, of course they're not gonna go after anybody. No. He's just gonna get on the air and he's gonna... Let me, I have a couple of things about this kind of

24:47 Misinformation the kind of thing going on. There's one clip that I had for last actually I've had I should replay the one clip and then a second clip which is the The the stories about the kid being a psycho And he's all doped up and he was a loner and all the stuff and that's when I had the clip We played the neighbor with conflicting information Which I have here again if you want to just remind people sure what the early reports were this got a closer look at at the shooter, the 20-year-old Adam Lanza. You're getting new information. Brian, what are you learning? Well, police say they're picking up what they call good evidence about Adam Lanza, his mother, and what may have led to this. Picking up that evidence at the mother's house. They are not letting on what that evidence is, but we're getting some new details about the shooter's past and his family.

25:34 His motive for this unspeakable act is still not clear. By the way, can we stop with the unspeakable act? Are you a journalist? I read this everywhere, the unspeakable act. Why is it unspeakable? Why is it unspeakable? It seems speakable to me. It's a shooting. I have a theory about this which I'll gladly lay on you, but it is part of the narrative. It's an unspeakable act. Of course you can speak it. Why not? Law enforcement officials say, and in digging for details about shooter Adam Lanza and his family, accounts emerged that are still confusing, sometimes conflicting. A neighbor who knew him in recent years describes Lanza as troubled, but listen to this account from a young man who knew him. He was just a kid. Just a kid. Just a kid. Never antisocial? No, I'm just gonna... no. Troublemaker? No, definitely not. Noticeable?

26:35 Did he just kind of blend into the background? Yeah, nothing that would warrant any of this. Exactly. All right, so we have him portrayed as a nutcase. Now this, by the way, these clips have been pulled. You'll never hear these again. But the one that really got me, and I said, I said, I will have to bring this one back up. I was listening to a report and they went on and on about the mom being a nutcase prepper and she's loaded she's got a gun nut and she was a freak and she was a screwball and all this stuff they were going on and on about the mom who got killed in this process whatever the real process was and now play the clip she was just like any other housewife another report from someone who knew her. Ryan Kraft says he babysat Adam Lanza about 10 years ago when Lanza was 10 and Kraft was 15. He describes Lanza as focused

27:24 quiet introverted he never saw evidence of violence craft says but says lands a did throw the occasional temper tantrum general stuff like you have to put him to bed and you would like that or we had to stop watching TV and he wouldn't like that you know normal stuff that a kid would do but I guess at 10 years old most kids get out of that phase and that wasn't the case for Adam Kraft was only a year older than Adam Lanza's older brother Ryan. He says their mother told him to let Ryan do whatever he wanted. But as for Adam... What I really remember clearly is that Nancy always asked me to always be with him in the room no matter what, like don't go to the bathroom, don't ever leave him without supervision.

28:03 Kraft says Adam had a contentious relationship with his mother, Nancy. She'd split from the boy's father, Peter Lanza, who's described by the job networking website LinkedIn as tax director and vice president at GE Energy Financial Services. But Kraft says Nancy Lanza was an engaged mother, always setting up play dates for her two sons and taking part in neighborhood activities. Neighbors and friends say Nancy Lanza enjoyed gardening and had taken time off from a job in finance. It's like a normal anybody else in this neighborhood. You know, decorate the house and the house was always, you know, pristine and I mean she was just like any other housewife.

28:42 It was just like any other housewife doesn't sound a lot to me like she was some sort of a nutball Right. Well, okay, so I have a couple of the things I want to play from over here on this side of the pond and then I really do want to give you at least a Reasonable theory coming from me. That's gonna be interesting here is The Jeremy Vine show. This is on, I think, BBC Radio 2. And, you know, because of course now I'm getting all of this. I'm getting different information. Now I'm over here because of the time zones and everything. It's kind of cool how that works for the show. And on this show, he... and this is... it's funny because normally, you know, let's say maybe five, six years ago or before we started doing this show,

29:32 People would have been calling me to talk about this in radio and television shows here in the Netherlands because like, oh, who do we know? Oh, we know Curry. Yeah, let's call Curry. He can give us his opinion. Now, of course, they know that I don't play along with their game. The phone is eerily silent. In the UK, they of course are going to call up people and get them to come on the show. So they call up Bonnie Greer and Karen Krizanovich. Karen Krasinovich is a trained voiceover artist who specializes in chocolate voices, robot and Vulcan, American regional accents and anything throaty. Her voice reels can be heard here, according to her website. So just someone who the BBC happens to know because she does voiceover work for them.

30:28 And then there's Bonnie Greer, who visited the UK as part of a production at the Edinburgh Festival. Wait, wait, wasn't the first one Bonnie Greer? You said Bonnie Greer. No, Karen Krizzanowicz. Okay, Karen Krizzanowicz is the one that's the voiceover girl. Yes. It's all in the show notes. You can look at their websites. And then Bonnie Greer, she visited as part of a production at the Edinburgh Festival in 86 and has been based in the UK since then. She acquired British citizenship in 97. She works in theatre with women and ethnic minorities and blah blah blah.

31:06 So these are two douchebag women who are going to tell the British public what it's all about. You have no credibility. As much as I do, let's put it that way. I'm a disc jockey. You're a voiceover artist. You can prevent the putting together of the entity. In other words, do something about the bullets. We don't need those kind of magazines in civilian hands. For instance, the guy went into that school room, had a 30-round magazine inside of his rapid-fire weapon, which means he only had to pull the trigger once. So let me just get this straight. He had a 30-round clip magazine and that rapid-fire weapon only had to pull the trigger once.

31:52 this is a bull crap courses bull crap but this whole woman is bull crap they've called someone who works for them and does voiceover work for doctor who and and i think what now no not what can i do mention something here and of course passing yes if anyone is a big fan of and i am of adam curtis the the documentarian who does these kind of crazy documentaries that are really insightful. He did a series of three really short ones and you can usually find it on his website and one of them he discusses this problem and he actually identifies when it began which was turning the news show into a show where the public at large is some bonehead off the street and you see it on the nightly news every day. They put a microphone in their face and ask them what they think

32:37 as if their opinion actually has anything to do with anything. Well it's worse than that. It's just a casual opinion based on a... it's kind of like a feedback loop because they hear it on the news and then they... oh yeah, the guy's bad or the weapon he used was... I mean this is useless. Useless reporting. But it's worse than that because this is a very popular radio or well listened to. I wouldn't say the guy is necessarily 100% popular. But it's listened to a lot, this program, and the women he has on, they're acting, they are actors, but they're acting like they are some kind of, you know, aficionados, like they're authorities on the topic. So that is, that kind of thing can be banned. You can ban assault weapons. There was a sunset on assault weapons. Clinton got that passed through.

33:23 i think the president can get that going a couple of pro i think the president's gonna get that going yet that's uh... that's great thank you of firearms at the house and his were rated a by the national rifle association which is a real quiet since friday uh... now she's an expert on the national rifles and talking point she's reading thank him on that i don't know how to start in the turning point i think is really important and i don't care degrees with me very important for british listeners understand I love this! Very important. Now remember, these women are actors. Very important for British listeners to understand. Listen up, slaves. Information coming. The gun is considered in America the guarantee of liberty. It is deeply embedded. It's from this country, actually.

34:08 Wait a minute, the gun is from this country actually. Because in the glorious revolution, the idea of the right to bear arms has been embedded in the English Bill of Rights. The English Bill of Rights. The woman is so out of her mind with senseless facts that are wrong. But then she brings the other woman in and this is great. She could see what was going on, she moved towards him and he just shot her. Why not give her the gun? So this is the conversation about why not armed teachers? Now these two women, these actors, literally actors are going to tell you what's wrong with America. I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh. It's just a very serious, but it's just such a ridiculous idea to me that everybody's going to, you know, they were talking about why didn't the children have guns? Six and seven year old. Yes. So they were taking that down. Seriously. We take that down. Children in kindergarten should be carrying guns. Were they actually seriously discussing that? Yes, they were. Yes. Specious bull crap. So what she's just said to the British public is that Americans were actually talking about

35:13 kindergarten children carrying guns but wait wait she takes it even further. Packing baby glocks which exist by the way. The other thing too. The baby glock yeah there's a model called the baby glock but it's not being marketed to kindergartners. that we haven't talked about. I was talking to a games maker, a guy who used to make games. He got out of the games making industry. Now wait, now she's an expert in psychology. Because he said the games now are insane. They are actually prototypes of murder games that they use in the United States military. And this is another issue as well. I don't

35:52 want to prohibit games but I'm saying we need to look at all this too. Oh, I don't want to prohibit games, but wait a minute, why not? If you know that they're so insane that they're responsible, why wouldn't you lady? But it's most important, the United States is a violent society. Oh okay, thank you. This is from the trader who was left and now lives in England. Okay, and the way it looks to the outside is not the way it is. Americans are violent people and we we we're from a Midwestern state our state was settled by the gun I'm gonna kill you John I'm violent I'm a violent I am a violent yeah no no no no no I'm not even close no no no are you you get you I would say wait until the end of the show this is nowhere near clip of the day territory

36:45 First, let me take you on a little side journey and let me take you back to the 1950s. Because of course in the 1980s, some of you will remember, it was rock lyrics and rock videos, rock music videos. And it was Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, who said that violence in America was being caused because of violent lyrics. And this of course has pretty much been proven to be not true and the lyrics have also not gotten any less violent. And in the 1950s, John C. DeVora, can you remember what it was in the 1950s that was causing children to be violent and to cause mayhem and commit robberies and other violent crime? Do you remember? I believe it was rock and roll. What are we afraid of?

37:36 Are we afraid of our own children? Do we forget that they are citizens too, and entitled to the essential freedom to read? Or do we think our children so evil, so vicious, so simple-minded, that it takes but a comic magazine story of murder, deception to murder, of robbery, deception to robbery? It was the comic books, John. There were all the comic books. I remember that they banned EC comics Yes, the company that was making those comic books that were you know, they were hilarious actually many collectors items Yes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's also rock and roll was causing this problem and dancing of the dancing of course dancing now Before I go back to the UK with you I would like to play a little bit of Rachel Maddow who is

38:19 Her job, of course, is to get rid of anything in news except her. We just need Rachel Maddow all the time. She goes to the Christmas party with the president. She tells him what to do. Go ahead, we'll do whatever we need to do. How could she take this? I mean if you're really really smart and you want to take the guns horrible killing people and the internet which is really what this is all about this is really about at the end of the day we have to discredit the internet and have people self-police the internet because you can't shut it down. What could she do to bring those two together? Something we've actually talked about on this show in the past couple of months. Give up?

37:36 Are we afraid of our own children? Do we forget that they are citizens too, and entitled to the essential freedom to read? Or do we think our children so evil, so vicious, so simple-minded, that it takes but a comic magazine story of murder, deception to murder, of robbery, deception to robbery? It was the comic books, John. There were all the comic books. I remember that they banned EC comics Yes, the company that was making those comic books that were you know, they were hilarious actually many collectors items Yes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's also rock and roll was causing this problem and dancing of the dancing of course dancing now Before I go back to the UK with you I would like to play a little bit of Rachel Maddow who is

38:19 Her job, of course, is to get rid of anything in news except her. We just need Rachel Maddow all the time. She goes to the Christmas party with the president. She tells him what to do. Go ahead, we'll do whatever we need to do. How could she take this? I mean if you're really really smart and you want to take the guns horrible killing people and the internet which is really what this is all about this is really about at the end of the day we have to discredit the internet and have people self-police the internet because you can't shut it down. What could she do to bring those two together? Something we've actually talked about on this show in the past couple of months. Give up?

39:05 Yeah, I'm just waiting to hear it. Are you feeling it already? Are you feeling it coming, John? Do you feel it? She's gonna finally talk about the 3d printed gun Anybody can become a small-scale manufacturer of anything all you have to do is download a computer file or create a computer file that has these Specifications for the shape of a thing that you would like to build you do have a limited range of material printer can make something out of

39:51 Tell me to make but you can create a physical three-dimensional object with something that is the equivalent of a printer Come on as yet these things cost a few thousand bucks, but it is a relatively straightforward thing and these exist There are a bunch of different brands of them out there you can manufacture something it's neat. Tell me! It's also interesting and complicated and maybe plunder inducing when you consider the fact that one of the things that people are already starting to build. Can this woman get to the point? With what they call 3D printers, these home manufacturing kits where you can make anything. One of the things people are already starting to make is a gun. Thank you.

40:29 What is wrong with her? Well, she's got to fill a whole show. I mean, she takes an hour to make a simple point. There's a lot to be done. I could have written two columns in that period of time. Yeah. So there were there were a number of funny Pierce Moron clips, which I can't I can't play that guy. I can't even listen to him anymore. He's trying to get attention by being outrageously anti-american. I don't know what he's trying to do. Well, he had... Actually, it was kind of cool to see this Larry Pratt guy who is from, I don't know, Gun Owners Association, whatever. I've seen him before. He was good. I have a little bit of their argument if you want to hear it. Well, actually, why don't we thank our executive producers for starters? Okay, but then I have to wind this up.

41:20 Okay, yeah, just wind it up after this. Yeah, okay. Well first of all is I actually have a one more clip But but what I need to say to you Josie Dvorak is in the morning to you Well in the morning you Adam currying in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water all the dames and knights out there who who are so generous to keep this show going and also to all the rest of the contributors and our families and everyone out there is listening. Yes, and thank you to our artists who are always helping us out with some art when it rains at poor. SuperLeone provided the art for episode 470 and in the morning to all of the citizens, human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, always making sure that we're not over modulated, keeping us

42:06 Keep us fair and balanced and honest. And yelling obscenities when necessary. It's always fun to have the chat room open and we have received some support I believe today from a couple of our producers. This is by the way proof, I will say it right now, John you can laugh about the light, you can laugh about us moving into the fifth dimension, you can laugh about the ascension, but this program is proof that something is happening because this program does not exist because of commercial messages, because of us trying to sell something to you. This is based on something that has been building for many years. It is the value for value proposition and you cannot say this is a mainstream or a normal thing that is taking place here, the support that we're receiving from the audience. Exactly. It's part of the process. It's part of the energy exchange.

43:10 Think so okay, and then good then good you've admitted it then no I'm not admitting. I just said I think so okay well I think you're just afraid for your reputation because your kids will laugh at you They already already do nothing I can do about it Alrighty what do we got so we got a few? Right page Get the microphone on the right spot because I got everything off set. It's interesting how you actually will say, let's thank our producers, I give you all this time and then you're not even ready. That's really, that's pretty awesome. Let's go with Ryan Showalter who's decided to do a double nighting today. Oh what? In Fresno, California. What? He came in... What? A double nighting?

43:57 A double nighting. Holy crap. Love it. He's coming from Fresno with $2,098.75. Holy moly. He figures that tomorrow's... he's not gonna need the money anyway. True. The end is nigh. This is true. This is true. No, I did not screw up my donation amount. 12-12-12-21 is my donation in the name of my lovely fiancé Chantel Levitt. An insta-damehood for the apocalypse. Oh nice! That's love! She donated on my behalf soon after I hit her in the mouth. And I proposed to her shortly thereafter. Ah, the old Neanderthal. It's a story we've heard over and over again.

44:39 Notice her donation is YYMMDD. I would have donated $201,212.21, but unfortunately PayPal won't let me donate money I don't have. I guess that's what I get for refusing to be a slave to the creditors. The other $886.54 is the balance due for my apocalyptic knighthood. I've donated $325, and he goes on with some accounting. Please knight me as Sir Thomas of the Apocalypse. You betcha. I'll get name cards made. Says keep it up, look forward to every episode of the best podcast in the universe and if you'd like to get a Reverend Manning whip him with the constitution hot pockets karma. Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind! Whoop him, whoop him, whoop him, whoop him, whoop him, whoop him with the constitution! Go ahead now! Whoop him, whoop him, whoop him, whoop him with the constitution! Whoop him, whoop him, whoop him, whoop him with the constitution!

45:45 You've got karma a nice little triple combo I like it that was good. Yeah, I love that only Yeah, you don't have too many people sir Thomas of the apocalypse. Thank you Yes, and a lovely fiance. Thor Hanks in Seattle, Washington, $500 should get me his night hoodie says. Since I don't drink, I would like sparkling cider and escorts. Oh man, do I have to write something down? Good luck in remembering that one. I never miss an episode of the best legislative and tax record analysis podcast ever. I would like a Don't Eat Me Hillary, Too Delicious Parliament Mumble.

46:30 And I'm donating all this karma to out-of-work slaves that have been let down by their government masters. Oh, okay. Well, that's actually kind of nice for everybody then. It's a full deal. You eat me, Hillary Clinton? It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. You've got karma. I nailed that one. So now we have Mr. G in Memphis, Tennessee, 33333 and apparently he's been over the money for a while. So he is a black knight as of today. The donations helped get the media assassination going for keep it going as long as possible. Why? Because the science is in. The central question is no agenda podcast. Is it the best podcast in the universe? Fact!

47:14 How about some karma for Adam and Mickey? Hopefully the douchebags at the DHS will relent and let them return to Austin soon I checked my knighthood status and he founds he's got a black knighthood sitting it sitting there waiting for him Anyway, does he have a karma week request? I don't see it. The rest is just accounting one Did you change something with you with your microphone when you do the we do the donations because now I'm hearing myself again Or is that just oh I have to move things around so I can actually see this screen. I'll move it a little more this way Okay. Thank you Just a little. It's just a minor thing. Just a minor gripe. And I had no Karma requests. I don't see a Karma request. Karma for Adam and Miss Mickey. Hello? Karma? Okay, we'll play it. Thank you. Very nice. Love it. Alright, Jesper Holmberg in Duval, Washington. 330-333?

48:09 And also Black Knight G's was 3333 or upcoming Black Knight. There's a value for value for Jeb's expose of civil society in the last episode. The segment was short but just as eye-opening as the Pipelines episode. Are you Jeb? Is that... Apparently I'm Jeb now. We've gone from John to Joe to Jeb C. Dvorak, ladies and gentlemen. So Jeb's exposé. Hey Adam Kerr... Kerry, the man deserves some karma. Give me some karma, he says. Sure, you... Jeb. Jeb. Here you go, Jeb.

48:45 It was only a moment of time, it was just a matter of time before the audience started giving us fake names. Yeah, why not? It's about time. Destroys my SEO juice, man. Some associate executive producers, Rodney Staben from Houston, Texas with 26568. The contribution should fulfill his knighthood. We got a lot of nights today just before the Mayans wreck everything if possible I'd like the honorific sir Rodney the provider Okay, as his moniker Adam take some of the funds and get you and miss Mickey some candles Oh, hey, judging from that newsletter pick you could use them. Do you have or a blowtorch? Oh

49:29 We have can't yeah, we got candles. We got candles in case it all everything goes out tomorrow. We got that Can you believe can you believe that we have the Mayan apocalypse and I don't have an HF rig I mean that sucks. It's gonna be weird. It's gonna be dudes random dudes Working he's on these for hours It's zombie dudes. Yeah Yeah, myself and Chris's poor keep the faith. Heed the advice of Austin's Jewish cowboy Kinky Friedman if you have the choice between a humble and cocky go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later I like that he was not too much trouble give him a Karma and then he says a bunch of accounting. He says that he wants to be baptized in the

50:15 Fount of Karma. Okay. Bend over. I don't know what it is. Bend over. Sounds dirty. Bend over, knight! Sounds dirty, but here you go. Bend over. Jason Stevens, Sir Jason Stevens to you from Lost Wages, Nevada. 25632. Greetings in the morning from Las Vegas. Nuts! I love the idea of no agenda ham BBS. Sadly I don't have any gear to send to Adam while he is in Gitmo lowlands. So here's a quick donation for cables, coax and diodes. Thank you so much. And I do have some interesting information about the ham BBS and I will once again make a minor plea

50:57 Although it's probably too late, but I'd love a QRP box just anything I'll even take a CW box just so I can work some random dudes from here. This is killing me brother. It's killing you CQ No, no CW I said I'm into the digital modes You wait you wait you wait until what I have for you later on in this very program the best podcast in the universe You're going to look at that noise. You're gonna eat those words You're gonna eat those words Jeb

51:36 Benjamin Nitis in Brooklyn, New York, 246. I'm membership in the 411 club and the 273 club as well as my gas donation to Adam and Mickey when they were in Hoboken. Yeah, that's right. Brings me to 754. I'm sitting here now, two days to the end of the world. I decide I may as well go out a night. Hell yeah. He didn't make it. Why did he donate it if he didn't donate enough? He didn't make it. This is like... No, you're kidding me. What? I'm pretty sure. Wait a minute, so the world is ending and the guy's like, at least I'll go out at night and he gets fried and he didn't make it? That doesn't matter. That's what he says. Oh no. He claims he has 754, maybe the 246. I'm going to have to, hopefully JC's listening, we're going to have to do a last minute check. Otherwise he'll be a black knight on Sunday. If there is a Sunday. If there is a Sunday, thank you.

52:31 Sir Howard Gutknecht in Seattle, Washington. 1012 Dear Joe and Alan hopefully upcoming baron of the southeast Seattle neighborhoods donating drunk. Oh We're celebrating Adams move to lowland nuts with reverse solstice donation at 210 12 See the 21st day 1 of December 2020 12. Oh 12 12. Oh Solstice, the day of the year to start getting along, just seasoned affect disorder, getting better. So for double knighthood in the fortnight.

53:14 I and my lovely wife Julie want to propagate the formula would like to start underwriting a visit by Mickey Allen in the West Coast tour. Get Mo Nation Amazon with investment can proffer some excellent values and John in the neighborhood despite the way I've described our gang war wrecked part of Seattle. Hey, as long as as long as you've got whatever you're drinking will be there. We are he needs a he needs a probably he just wants a little girl. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton salute, okay That's easy happy to give you that Wow that was pretty funny. I don't know how funny it was sir. I did finally our last our last Associate executive producers Alexander basketball Academy

54:06 Okay in Mount Airy, Maryland. All right Hey listener love the show check out this information on the Batman and Sandy Hook thing We talked about already is bullcrap. This is a serious connection. I don't know how you Bullshit Other than posting the URL, please give me a random karma at So here we go. This is why he's saying this Atlas shrugged and douchebag for Kristen She hit me in the mouth and has been listening for a long time, but I still donated first man. I hate it when that happens. Oh

54:45 by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. People think that's now in the jingle, which it is not. It is too! What do you think, I'm doing it? Yeah, John does that live, just so you know, peeps. People. Jeb. Jeb be doing that. Stop it, Jeb. I want to thank all the producers, executive producers, associates. Thank you for helping us on show 471. I remind people to keep up the pace with 472 coming up on Sunday which will be the show, if there is a show on Sunday.

55:23 The last show before Christmas, go to dvork.org slash na channel dvork.com slash na noagendashow.com and noagendanation.com and click on the donate buttons in those places if you can't get to dvork.org slash na and we'll keep doing the show. Yeah and please... With new sound effects. Yes. So you can reposition your monitor and everything so I don't hear myself. Thank you And also in the show notes under PR There is a reminder and a link for a gitmo nation Christmas Carol. It's an Amazon Kindle giblet and That is by Scott McKenzie It is a fun story to read a lot more fun than that mp3 that John sent out. I mean, it's a lot more no agenda ish

56:11 I who knew I you know I thought it was a nice idea it was Christmas is coming up it's family day hey of course you can always help us out one day left to go out and propagate the formula formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Alright, alright, alright. Let me just get back to this crazy strategy of tension, which is... And I want to do my two clips by the way before we get completely out of it. You do your two clips. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Please do your two clips. Okay, I got a couple of clips I just wanted to play.

57:05 uh... one of them that we could actually begin to show clip it's it's tom hartman on gun control only and i thought this would be something worth listening to because he's he is uh... apparently a douche bag and and all kinds of levels team can i play it yet slam used in these deadly massacres it's a why my gun from my cold dead fingers approach tragic consequences stirring up secessionist crazies around the nation our country is again dealing with the tragedy that happens all too often yet the corporate gun lobby focused more on profits than safety is helping set up more and more mass shootings in the future we know how to respond to danger here in america one shoe bomber we all take off our shoes at the airport one thread of binary liquids we can't carry liquids on airplanes one underwear bomber and we put in billions of dollars in porno x-ray scanners and we grope granny

58:01 there are more than twenty mass shootings every year in america and over a hundred people are shot everyday but we can't do something about guns? it's time to start pushing hard for laws that say that unless you can prove you need a gun you can't have one and if you do have one you have to prove proficiency and the gun and you must be licensed to hell with the blood-soaked gun lobby and their toadies anthony scalia and clarence thomas I thought when he was talking about that, I said we have the underpants bomb. I was waiting for him to say and then we banned wearing underwear. I was waiting for it. It didn't come. I'm like, oh my God, so sad. All right. So he's a douche bag. Surprise. Surprise. I'm only going to throw this one out there because I find it to be peculiar.

58:47 And this was on Sharpton, who is just a horrible butt kisser when it comes to anything Obama does. And so there's a picture of Obama with the principles, the principle that woman who was initially killed at the, I think one of the first persons killed at the massacre, the unspeakable massacre. Obama, I have no idea how this picture came to be, but Obama is a picture showing him holding that principal's granddaughter. Oh really? Interesting. Now I don't know how this even came to pass. I mean was the granddaughter knocking on it? The granddaughter by the way is like a one-year-old baby.

59:33 And he's holding it and Sharpton is just swooning over this because he's holding the baby. And you know, politicians and babies are pretty common. But he says that and then he takes some tweets and Facebook posts from anonymous people largely. And he loves saying the one that he's the comforter in chief. The Facebook family has been mourning the deaths of the Sandy Hook shooting all weekend. Today people had a lot to say about this touching photo of President Obama holding holding the granddaughter of the school's principal who was killed in the attack. Janelle called him the comforter in chief. Richard says he's a man with a golden heart. Phoebe says the president owes it to that little girl and her slain grandmother to turn these children's and teachers' ashes into a right, purposeful, and just action.

1:00:28 Wow, you know what that almost sounded like? It almost sounded like a commercial for a play or a movie, you know when they do like TV Guide says it's the one to watch. It was really, that was intense. Yeah, I thought I was creepy. Yeah, and I'm looking at it now. That guy is creepy by the way. He lost all his weight so now he looks like a dwarf because he's got this huge head. So, now this is, alright, so this is where Heads are gonna spin around people gonna look at me like okay. I can't believe you said that you know I just have to point out the very obvious between Myself and Jeb here we have been making media magic for a collective can I go out on a limb and say 60 years well

1:01:20 I've only been doing it for like five. Okay, in fact my very first media gig so to speak was on a pirate radio station known as Decibel Radio in this very city where I'm in now in the lowlands and it was a you know there was no there was all government radio so we had a pirate station very very popular everyone listened to it in the Amsterdam general area it was a huge huge thing only in the weekends you know for like three days three day weekend But even then I was John Holden. I was the 20 and I was 17 at the time driving a moped I was the 24 year old black guy from New York who drove a Harley and I would make dates with my listeners They'd call up on the show and say baby. I'll see you know behind the American Hotel after the show and there's any what and

1:02:12 If that, and if you know Amsterdam, you can't, there is no behind the American hotel. You're in the canal, so you can't even make a date there. That's where you're supposed to meet. So, but this is the, it's magic. It's theater of the mind. And I've been doing fake satellite interviews with celebrities who, you know, I, It's like, well, you still, by the way, you still do a wonderful fake in the hurricane of report. Yes, I do. As good as anyone. Yes. Well, not just me. I think you and I are pretty good together. It's a team effort when we do. You always catch me off guard with these, and sometimes I blow it.

1:02:48 No, you're usually pretty good, but we're not just for... We're not quite yet Bob and Ray. But you know, it's not just hurricanes, it's when the air raid sirens go off and... Oh my god! John, there's another scud! Another scud incoming! Actually, the siren is great when you do that. So anyway, so but but I have I have been a part of the lying system. So, you know, it's like, no, seriously, it's like, you know, we have lots of television. I mean, I've done so many hours of television, and so much of it was faked. I can remember Janet Jackson, when she had a

1:03:38 What have you done for me lately? I'm sure you remember the track John You know then she would send over literally a videotape of you know, someone asking her questions But only you know, you only got her answers and we did like a fake like the screen going to We're tuning in the satellite. It's on television on national television in 1984 I think oh, we're tuning in the satellite and then you know and I'm and I had the questions rehearsed and I was really good at this in fact I would sit in the editing bay and edit the pauses between the tape so we could have it running on the monitor and Next to me so you could see her head in

1:04:15 as if she was actually listening to me. I was good at this. I was really good. Those fake interviews are all over the place as if they're real. It's really annoying. In fact, in the radio... business they used to send out a big giant record, a giant record with a script 78 John. Well actually the ones we had were 16 inch I made myself. But those big giant things. Let me just move on. Don't take me to the 16 inch. 16 incher.

1:04:52 Okay, so so anyway this was yeah, this was 1984 I think you're do you're this is the longest buildup you've ever had I'm not crank and I'm not even done yet This must be a real gem it is Now if you turn on the television and you're watching Game of Thrones or whatever it's called, if you're watching CSI, if you go to the movies, look at what is actually being done. Look at the amazing technology, what technology has brought to the lying part of television. Now tell me what you have actually seen of Sandy Hook.

1:05:34 We have not seen blown out windows. We have not seen dead bodies. I hate to say it and I know you're thinking I'm a dick, but I have not seen anything. I have seen In fact, what we've heard is the parents haven't even seen the bodies and then, oh, they were taken away in the middle of the night in a refrigerated van. Are you effing kidding me? This whole thing. Sandy Hook may not even exist for all I know. I don't know. I've never been there. To me, this is no different than the moon landing. I swear to God. Of course, this should be after this. This should be second half of the show. But let me can I say one thing? I'm not going to agree with this, of course, but I will say one thing that kind of bothers me.

1:06:15 which is that there has been not one eyewitness account that I've heard of anyone seeing this guy shooting anyone or shooting around even when they're I mean he apparently killed everyone who laid eyes on him before he killed himself. And I don't even know that it was him that did any of it. I mean they could bring a dead guy in there, some paid assassin could come and shoot up a bunch of people or not and then throw this guy's body in the corner. I mean has anyone said yeah he came in wearing, you know, first there was a report he was wearing a mask. I don't know why but okay he was wearing a mask. So we don't even know who it was actually, if you've got a mask on, could have been anyone.

1:07:01 Has anyone said, yeah, he started firing around. I had to duck. You know, he shot so and so or I mean, has there been one eyewitness report of him? No, no, no, no, no. There has been nothing. We've seen journalists trolling online to try and get a hold of people. We have not seen this. We started this show off with his dad. And I have shown this to actors and the actors all say to me, wow, that if that was really an act, then then that guy is really, really, really good. And people do respond very strangely in certain types of environments of severe stress. But again, it's all I'm seeing. I don't know where he's standing. I see a brick wall, I see some dudes. It's just, this is, please do not forget, you saw nothing. You saw television, you saw nothing. So believe what you will, but please,

1:07:55 You did not see anything with your own two eyes and I have been on the other side of that box too much with some very so-called innocent stuff. Week in, week out, I made trickery. So you did not see anything. And the discussion is not about the guy they arrested in the woods, all these other things. Why is no one asking any questions about that? All it is is about guns and medication and the internet is bad. It literally is no different. I didn't see it. I just I just can't tell you from where I'm coming from from my personal perspective I don't know please at least shot out building, please they show pictures of with shadows that can it can only be if

1:08:44 very early in the morning or very late at night, not at 11 o'clock. They were surrounding the kids home at 9.15 before this even happened. I mean there's so many discrepancies, so much is wrong. And then oh by the way, anyone who says anything on the internet, shut up slave, we're going to arrest you, we're going to prosecute you because you're spreading disinformation. I don't know what happened, I don't know why this happened, I don't know if anything happened, But as far as I'm concerned, it's all media magic. the initial report that it was his older brother which was rebuked by his older brother who was on Facebook and I guess not even anywhere near there's in New York I think and he was going hey this isn't me I didn't do nothing New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey. He was in Jersey so the question always remains A. How did they why did they think it was him? Was he part of a script and or somebody's fouled up? I mean there would makes no sense to me that you would name somebody

1:09:52 Without absolutely knowing who it was and then talking about him having a younger brother that they're gonna go question Which is what the initial report said and when you bring this up with journalists or other go? Yeah, that's just the news They just you know, they do the best they can and all the rest of but doing the best you can is not naming somebody Specifically may ask you if it was them. It doesn't make any sense to me that you do that Why did they think it was him? Let me ask you a question Do you believe? that we actually assassinated and captured Osama bin Laden and then threw him in the ocean and didn't take any pictures? Do you actually believe that? Well, I've never believed that. Okay. Especially, I mean, everyone's going to be taking pictures. Yeah. So tell me, why should I believe this? I have seen nothing. You know, they put sheriffs, deputies outside of every single one of the so-called parents' homes. Why? Why?

1:10:49 What is it? Are people going to be assaulting them? What's going on with this? What is going on? I'm sorry, I have no belief in any of this. If it's on television, I'm just not going to believe it. I can't. From where I come from, I cannot believe it. And it's just people telling me stuff. And you know, oh boy, what did we have? It was, she was a teacher, then she wasn't a teacher, and then he was a student, then he wasn't a student, then he has Asperger's, then he has autism, and then, you know, and then she was a working man, it's a million things. She was a prepper, then she's a normal housewife. She's a prepper, then she's a normal housewife. We don't know if these people were even real. I just don't know. I did not see it.

1:11:33 And therefore I just can no longer believe it because I see what's possible and of all the theories, of all the theories, this is the easiest one to believe because you know the technology is there. It's simple. Put a sheriff up there with his hat. That bothers me, that sheriff. Excuse me? That sheriff bothers me with that commentary. Of course it bothers you. We're going to go after anyone who posts on Facebook, anything they say. And this is a new twist. Okay, so there's a playwright in London, in England. Her name is Lionel Shriver and she wrote a book which was turned into a movie. The title of the book I think is, we have to talk about... Let me just see what his name is. I think it's Let's Talk About Ken? Anyway, it's a story which was turned into a movie by BBC Films, of course, that's why she's on.

1:12:37 And it came out end of last year and it just came out on DVD and Blu-ray. And this is about a kid who turns out to be a bad seed and shoots and kills everyone at school. So of course, you know, let's bring her on. I will say... I actually liked what she said. Now she's a traitor because she has left... well just listen to her opening statement. She's on Newsnight with Jeremy. What's his name? Jeremy... Jeremy... Yeah, Jeremy. Lionel Shriver wrote the novel We Need To Talk About Kevin.

1:13:13 about Kevin that's what it is a massacre at an American school can we just look at this broader question of the place of the gun in American society you were born in the States you are you now taking British citizenship aren't you not yet but you're about to definitely if you consume yourself so far first I'm like she's a traitor with more stories like this definitely but do you understand why the gun has got this special place in American culture Now listen to what she's saying. She has some... because this of course is all about guns and all this bullcrap, but she actually has some really good things to say. Well you know it runs very deep in the history. I remember I had to memorize a part of the Declaration of Independence when I was in junior high school. All about... most importantly that bit about how... Bullcrap! Tell me, what do you think is bullcrap? Having to memorize the Declaration of Independence?

1:14:12 Well, it is at the very beginning of the Declaration of Independence. No, but why would you have to memorize what school has any of their kids memorized? This is like a Muslim madrasa. You have to memorize the Declaration of Independence? Well, it's at the very beginning. It's bull crap. That's a lie. I don't know any school that does that. Why would you do that? The kids don't even like doing the Pledge of Allegiance. That was when I was a kid. How old is she? Is she 90? Maybe they did it back around the turn of the century, 1900. So maybe she only had to remember the first bit. I don't know. I never had to do it. That's not what she said. The part she's talking about is we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. They are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

1:15:07 that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it this is, maybe you don't have to memorize it but that is kind of like the key thing at the beginning of the constitution, the declaration of independence. It governs at the consent of the governed and it's up to the governed to Consent or withdraw it so she clearly didn't memorize it very well. It didn't stick But but but she's about to hit people in the mouth I was impressed with this and abolished the government and start another one and the first time we did that we did that violently and it's schoolchildren learn this and that that if you don't like your government you essentially have the right to

1:15:55 the moral right to overthrow it. I'm giving her a ding for that. I'm like, yes, this is correct. And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that there is an element of the gun rights lobby that really has to do with, in the back of their minds, If push comes to shove, we should be able to overthrow the government by force. And I think that this is very important. For all the bull crap I heard on the BBC and Piers Morgan on the CNNs, she is actually talking some sense about what Americans are really about. And I think we need to listen to this. This is a mature, stable democracy. There is no chance of the state being overthrown. Of course not. It's a fantasy. That's one of the things that's a little odd about it.

1:16:41 I mean, there have been occasions where citizens tried to withdraw. I think she almost said shitticens actually. I think she was going to say shitticens. It's like, oh crap, no. Almost. And it didn't work out very well. Look at Waco, Timothy McVeigh, who was killed by lethal injection. I'm not sure why she brings that up. But basically she's saying... She goes from Waco to Timothy McVeigh... Because she is speaking from some knowledge, but it's a little convoluted. But what she's saying is, look, it didn't turn out really well for people who were like, leave me alone government, which of course is where Waco was. And I'm not sure how she got to Timothy McVeigh. Absurdity.

1:17:30 But there is an element in the United States that is very uncomfortable with the state, suspicious and even hostile, and feels that rather than the state needing to have that classic monopoly on violence, that the citizen needs to be armed in order to counterbalance the power of the state. So I like that. I think, I think, all right, now this is good. Now she's going to talk about the American citizen. And remember, at first I thought she was a traitor. But is there something uniquely malevolent about Americans? Uniquely menacing? So he's saying, so basically he heard the other interviewers like, aren't Americans an evil bunch of violent a-holes? As an environment? No, I don't. I don't think so. So what's behind it?

1:18:22 I think the gun has become an emblem of that unfettered individual liberty that Americans are told over and over again that they enjoy but they don't really have. And that makes the gun even more important. The truth is, Americans are as overtaxed and overregulated and controlled by this, that and the other thing as any other western citizenry. But they're told all the time that they're free. They don't feel free. And I think the gun has a way of giving you that sensation of real liberty and real power. And guns do confer power.

1:19:08 In fact, they confer so much power that when you think about it, all that you can get people to do, if you have one, take off their clothes, let you into their house, give you all their money. It's amazing that every American doesn't have a gun. Exactly. When I hear that list, it's like, hey, it's a great line. Take off your clothes. It's amazing every American doesn't have a gun. Yeah, because we love that. But she's saying something really, really important. And now I think she's saying something really good here, is that the idea of us having a gun as American citizens gives us

1:19:53 the sense of freedom and that that's really so that is a huge Control issue that is being used on it. What are they gonna do? They're gonna argue for a year and then they'll ban assault rifles. It's again. It's just about the Idea, it's it's poking you in the eye with a needle That's what this is about and then all kinds of crazy things happen and laws get passed and shit gets done that you're not told about because the stupid well the controlled media

1:20:30 is doing exactly what they're supposed to do in this case. And I was quite surprised by this lady. Of course, again, the BBC, they just want to promote their damn movie on Blu-ray and DVD. It looks like a great movie too. They won like the con, Pom D'Or. So that's a lot of what this is. Just the conversation itself is squeezing your brain. Americans. Well there's a lot of brain squeezing going on and it seems to be a lot of plays out there that they're trying to run past us to see if they get our attention away from the fiscal cliff or whatever it is. I'm still now still more and more thinking along the lines of Mandela just before the first of the year to completely draw away from the fiscal cliff issues which are really important. But the one that cracks me up, the real

1:21:18 The real head shaker was the no traction story, no traction whatsoever. It could have been really big if it was handled differently, but there were idiots apparently. Which was the Richard Engel kidnapping. Oh yeah, this was like... people what are you thinking no not now this is we got something else going on yeah so they kidnapped Richard Engel who's a very famous and he's really high-profile foreign correspondent over in Syria he's always over in the Middle East and he does all these reports and he's handsome let's just point out he's a handsome man good-looking man some man handsome man so he gets kidnapped

1:22:01 I actually didn't know about it, this is how bad it was. I'm watching C-SPAN, I'm watching, you know, doing my normal type of research which is off the main grid. And I didn't find out about his kidnapping until after he was released. That's how poorly this was executed. It's like they kidnapped a guy. Sorry. I'm sorry. They kidnapped a guy. They do make a big rigmarole out of it. I guess nobody picked up on it. It wasn't like a big scandal like normal kidnappings would be and they don't chop his head off or anything. Then they release him and then he comes on the Today Show and this is the clip I have him trying to explain some of the horrors he went through.

1:22:40 A group of gunmen just literally jumped out of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. There were probably 15 gunmen. They were wearing ski masks. They were heavily armed. Wait a minute! Was he kidnapped in Sandy Hook? This is crazy! They dragged us out of the car. Why were they wearing ski masks? Yeah, in the desert! Or a ski mask which we got from our our our jarry I Austria they had a container truck Positioned waiting by the side of the road. They put us into that container truck We were with some gunmen some rebels who were escorting us. They executed one of them on the spot and they took us to a series of say stop stop a second executed him on the spot and

1:23:27 So they got a so that we really don't know if these were the rebels that were captured or there were there were rebels in there that were captured by the government and which is what it sounds like and for some reason They they threw them in there with these other rebels and then they killed one right on the spot on the spot for some unknown reason none of that they they they didn't just kill him it was very specific and They executed him. Executed, which means like get on your knees and shot him through the back of the head I guess. They executed him. He's very specific about that. And the point of that was, we don't know, so anyway the story continues. ...and interrogation places and they kept us blindfolded, bound, we weren't physically beaten or tortured, it was a lot of psychological torture, threats of being killed, they made us choose which one of us would be shot first and when we refused there were mock shootings, they pretended to shoot Ghazi several times and when you're blindfolded

1:24:26 And then they fire the gun up in the air. It can be a very traumatic experience. Okay, can I just tell you what my feeling is when I hear this? My feeling is he's really pissed off because he had all this great stuff to tell. He knows it's not going to roll out the way he wanted it to because of this darn Sandy Hook thing. So it's like a diarrhea of stuff that happened. And there were mock shootings, like a kid does a show and tell. And then they executed him right on the spot, and we were blindfolded in a container truck.

1:25:02 we know what's gonna happen we really scared and and I'm yeah I'm really pretty you know it's really underneath his kind of like I agree with this theory of yours exactly but you know I think is really underlying it is would be in the back of his mind he's going there goes my seven figure book deal with him it I got blindfolded for five days and no book deal this is crap at least they gave Scully his poem book So it's a but anyway I found this to be very peculiar this the timing of this and the fact that he got no traction he didn't get his book deal and And I got to go back and try again. It's that you bring that up and let me just open up this folder here again because this timing for whatever the reason this happened now was not good for a lot of things and

1:25:49 More changes in Hollywood in the wake of the school shooting tragedy in Connecticut. Tonight's premiere of the new Quentin Tarantino movie, Django Unchained, has been cancelled. Discovery Channel has completely cancelled production of the new season of American Guns. And on TLC they've postponed the premiere of the latest reality series, Best Funeral Ever. The world of music also being affected by the tragedy. Kesha's new single Die Young plummeted the charts since the shooting. Last Friday, the day of the shooting, the controversial title song peaked at number three in the Billboard charts. However, it's now slipped off the top 100 since radio stations across the country have pulled it from their playlists. I'm telling you, man, the entertainment business got screwed by this. It's like some other production company that came

1:26:28 Maybe somebody really had it in for Tarantino. Well also Tom Cruise had to cancel his, you know, the Reacher or whatever, the Reach Around. It had to cancel the premiere of that. Oh right, that's another violent movie. Yeah, yeah, with a preacher. Well, your preacher so along with with this if you done with that with Richard because I want to play into that yeah, no, I just thought found the whole thing to be a kind of like a like a deserted island, you know in the middle of nowhere and I said I'm Following him going this guy and by the way, they showed him on the today show and I didn't I looked at this clip I look real to me but JC swears

1:27:08 that they were shooting him and his two buddies who never said anything the two camera guys. Yeah, I saw this clip. The three of them outside, yeah? Yeah, and he says that's green screen. He says there's no way it's not because the angle of the background is wrong. Really? Unless they're shooting from a jib. Shooting from a jib, you know, outside. And why would you anyway? Because it looks crazy. But to get the angle of that background to look the way it did, They had to be up about 5 to 10 feet over their heads shooting down on them. I mean, I agree with the angle being weird. I didn't see any evidence being green screened, but after seeing the way they do it nowadays, you can't...

1:27:51 All you can identify is lousy green screen like in the Thelma Hartman show where the guy changes colors and there's a one-inch thick black line around him. That kind of cheap green screen but in these high-end green screens you can't tell anymore so I don't know it's possible. I'll have to take a look. I have the clip in the show notes 471.nashownotes.com Of course something else very important happened, almost a non-event, and of course whenever you have a report coming out which has the initials ARB, Accountability Review Board, that's when you obviously... Hillary Clinton finally ate that little girl and that's why she had a stomach ache and that's why she had to poop it out and that's why she hit her head and that's why she couldn't testify. And now the report came out about Benghazi.

1:28:34 Now, four top security officials in the United States have left their posts. This follows a scathing report about lax security measures at the American mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi. The US ambassador and three others died there when heavily armed men stormed the building. This was in September. The State Department said its chief of diplomatic security had resigned. Three other officials had been relieved of their duties. okay so uh... that's about all the reporting will get uh... and that's even from the from the bbc uh... now we go down to the floor of the house dennis kucinich who uh... absolutely does not matter to anybody anymore and cannot get any airtime except on c-span and on the no agenda podcast uh... took his one minute of time to say the following this past september eleventh for americans including our ambassador were killed in benghazi

1:29:26 The responsibility for security failures has now been placed on the State Department. End of story? No. The deeper question is why did the U.S. intervene in Libya in the first place? Twenty months after a U.S.-led mission to overthrow the Libyan government, militias are still battling in the streets for control. Al-Qaeda-linked groups have a foothold in Libya they did not have before U.S. intervention. Why did we spend US tax dollars to open the door for Al-Qaeda in Libya? The intervention itself was a disaster. And it makes the case that the US government's policy of intervention in Libya was wrong, and that everything that proceeds from that intervention is bound to be tainted. The book of Ecclesiastes says, that which is crooked cannot be made straight. Nothing.

1:30:18 will never be made straight about US intervention in Libya. Dennis, memo to you, great job, no one cares. I'm sorry to say, no one cares. But yeah, you're right, we financed Al-Qaeda. It's a mess. But no one even cares about that. Now, So this report comes out and again, this all the reporting you get is one person resigned three people were asking we don't even know the names no one cares there's no follow-up because you know we don't get access to Hillary when she's president we're all afraid you know we don't want to ruffle feathers don't want to rock the boat you know we've got and by the way yes you should mention there was like 20 or 20 plus other people

1:31:01 in the compound that were rushed out of there that saw this event. And were rushed off to Germany. Yeah, they were rushed off to Germany and no one's been able to say one word to them. They've not been brought up in front of the Congress. They've disappeared them. So they say, shh, shh, get out and just lay low. Well, it's kind of frightening you say they've disappeared them because where are they?

1:31:43 and Ambassador Douche Knuckle, they go in front of the press at the State Department and they do a little routine. They basically give the executive summary. And interesting, Admiral Mullen is in civvies. He's not in his admiralty. He's wearing a suit. With just a little like a pin. Is it his regular suit or is it his navy? He has a navy suit and he's actually got a couple going on inside. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He has just a little like no more than a little flag, but it's like an upside down triangle. I don't know, all seeing eye. He's got something on there, but it's a nice suit actually. It's kind of a spiffy suit. Yeah, he's a sharp dresser. Yeah, spiffy suit. And so they go up to present the findings

1:32:21 And Victoria Nuland makes a classic mistake. She of course calls on Matt, our buddy from AP, to ask the first question. No, Reuters, right? Reuters, I'm sorry. It's a classic. So I'm going to, I think it's the ambassador is going to finish up here. It's a little long, but it's worth listening to because he asks the exact right question and gets a total douchebag answer. And he actually goes back and says, again, it's the elephant in the room. Not a single person reports on this. And I have to say, can I have one of those Mickey? That looks really good.

1:33:00 She just walked by here. What time is it here? It's like it's almost eight o'clock and I don't have time to eat. And she's got like, what is this? Brie with honey? Are you insane woman? Give that to me. That's a delicious combination. Fantastic. I'm so sorry. I got it here. Okay. Anyway, so there you go. Oh my God, that was so good. I just need that one little bit because I'm starving here. I can't eat before the show. No, I'll get it later. Thank you. Candy, I give John shit about eating. Okay. I have not seen this in his reporting. This is a television show. If you want an actual news bite, it's a couple minutes. This is it. We are delighted to see that the Secretary is committed to the expeditious and indeed urgent implementation of all of our recommendations and now

1:33:56 There's a little crap in there. We would be happy to take your questions and appreciate your giving us this opportunity to brief you on our report. So, okay, so he's like, so he's done his whole little, little spiel. Now Victoria comes out. It's a classic mistake. Thank you very much for doing this briefing. The report to a layman seems to indicate either rank incompetence or a complete lack of understanding of the situation on the ground in Benghazi. And my question is, why is

1:34:34 such poor performance like that from senior leaders in these two bureaus that you mentioned. Why is that not a breach of or dereliction of duty? Why is it not grounds for disciplinary action? And then secondly, after the 1998 bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the ARB report, the ARB that was formed, them came out with a series of recommendations and many of the your recommendations today the broader ones are very similar that those bombings in east africa were supposed to have been a never again moment what happened between then and now that this could possibly have happened is this not an outstanding question yes with the question it should be asked and of course we know what the

1:35:21 We have our thesis and what the real answer is which is never going to be discussed No, which is this thing was rigged, but just listen to how these douchebags answer without accepting your characterization Without accepting your characterization of the problem. This is a great way to answer things I got to do this if Mickey's really angry at me I just say without accepting your characterization of the trash not being taken out by my own person and I just have to say it is very clear that under the law and in connection with the State Department regulatory practice one has to find willful misconduct or... Now he's going to explain the difference between screwing up and doing something bad I guess. Similar kinds of action in order to find breach of duty and indeed one of our recommendations is there is such a large gap

1:36:15 between willful misconduct which leads obviously to conclusions about discipline letters of reprimand separation This is this is oh, we'll give you letters of reprimand. We'll give you separation What else we move all of an individual temporarily the bureaucrat douche Douchebag. Temporary removal of an individual. Temporary removal. That we believe that gap ought to be filled. Four people died. I think, hey, you're in trouble man. Four people died. Temporary removal. Into the penalty box you go. But we found perhaps close to, as we say in the report, breach, but there were performance inadequacies.

1:36:59 Now, of course Matt is not going to have this because they didn't answer the actual question. But Victoria is trying to move it along. Well, I'm sorry, but just the second one, you know, what happened between, how did the lessons of Kenya and Tanzania get forgotten? Let me just mention that and then Admiral Mullen may have some things to say. You don't have to listen because he didn't answer the question.

1:37:36 But this is exactly what it is. We had these bombings in Tanzania and Kenya, and there was an accountability review board, and people died, and it was really bad, and it was never again, it was not gonna happen, and it happened. Everything happened exactly that way again. And the reason is because it was a setup. This of course doesn't come out in the review, and they've just had some nondescript people leave, and I think you're right, we need, after, John, in fact, I think you've nailed it. After this horrible tragedy, media magic, of Sandy Hook, now we need an outpouring of love. It is swinging people from the one side, whoop, we're going to whack you all the way to the other side. Nelson Mandela goes right before Christmas, right after Christmas, then everyone's like, we're going to have a huge outpouring of love and how wonderful this man was and everything else shall be forgotten.

1:38:33 Well, I don't want to wish bad things for Nelson Mandela, but if the timing would be ideal, you'd have him go just before the first of the year, just before New Year's. Or immediately after. It's going to be around the first of January. Did you just say you'd wish him no bad however it would be just around this time? Would be good? Did you just say that? All right, let me just break this up a little bit with the Peto Bear Report. President Obama phoned the Secretary of the Army to personally express his concern about reports of abuse at the daycare center at Fort Myer in Virginia. This week, two workers at that facility were charged with assaulting a child. And a review of all the workers there found several with questionable backgrounds, including records of sexual abuse of a minor, sexual assault,

1:39:25 and assault. That's right, in Virginia, where all the douchebags are. At the kinder daycare. PedoBear. Everywhere. The whole place. Yeah, well, that's Virginia. Yeah, it's part of what Virginia is for sure. It's for lovers. Wow, that was really bad, John. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. I do want to give one anecdote before I go through the donation segment. I noticed this. I'm watching and I think a lot of our listeners are having the same effect happen to them. I mean we do the show and you know we're kind of I think immune to some of it.

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1:52:42 Honey oh Is Australia still there? Yeah, were you sleeping? Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. No we thought we were trying to see if Australia's gone yet It's tomorrow there. We check. Okay. Thanks. I'll show you all happened. Yeah So it'd be an afternoon thing. This is not the waking up your wife. Not a good idea. Yeah, not a good idea Oh, sorry, honey I mean you have to understand I am literally No, she does not talk like that. I'm literally when she wakes up. She's rich. She wakes up. Oh, she's very sweet. Oh, that's unusual I am literally there grouches when they wake up. No, no, no, I'm literally in I'm at the dining room slash kitchen table I can I can almost touch the stove from where I'm sitting I can cozy

1:53:36 Those are the plates and then Miki, she's right around the corner I can see just just can't that can see your hand waving now. Just imagine yourself in one of those little trailers that you you know sounds like it's what it's like. It's very cozy. It's pretty very cozy. But at least then we were had control over how long we were gonna be in there and where we were going and all that stuff. Anyway, put some wheels on that. That's right. We hope to see you all on the other side of course for Sunday's show so do remember to support your your I'm not just your favorite podcast And you are as I said earlier part of something very special that whether you know Whether you believe in this my encounter thing or not something is happening and we are part of it somehow Even though Jeb may be somewhat skeptical

1:54:27 And we have a nice list of knights, and this is very good because these are the last knights to get in before the apocalypse. And actually... And by the way, I want to remind people to get their knighthoods before the end of the year, because we will make sure everyone gets a ring who has either gets their knighthood by the end of the year, because we're going to change to pins. You know, I was thinking about this. Doing... What? You always are thinking about it. What could be better than a pin the way the Canadians, that's the way they do their nights. Well, this is not a good idea. I was thinking, I mean, why wouldn't it just be a special night challenge coin? Isn't that just the most awesomest? I mean, why? Yeah, but you can't wear it. If you wear the pin, look, here's the way I see it. The pin is advertising. I wouldn't say advertising. I'd say sponsor, whatever you want to call it. Underwriting.

1:55:22 The pin is under something, it's a message, it's also code. If somebody's wearing the pin, they will be identified, they will identify each other in public and we have about, I don't know, 300-400 nights, 500 maybe. And they all identify each other in public and go, oh. Oh, you're a no agenda night too? I didn't know that you even listen to the show. Yeah, I listen to the show. I'm a no agenda, I've been a no agenda night for three years and as they get into a conversation, people around them at this cocktail party that I'm imagining will all say, what are you guys talking about? Oh yeah, we're nights in the no agenda round table. Look and they point at their pin. The next thing you notice, really, what can I do? How can I get a hold of that show? Then you say, Google no agenda.

1:56:02 Our catchphrase for 2013, Google no agenda. So you're absolutely right. I've gone through the thought process before and it was our friends in Virginia who pointed out to me that in the elite circles, but certainly in the circles of the Secret Service, that they all make agreements on which pin to wear so if a guy shows up wearing the wrong pin, they know that he's not part of the deal. So the pin is actually a very important thing. And we can probably do pins for each year or something like that, for each night of the year. There's something else I want to just discuss as we're having this meeting. I'm thinking... Hold on a second. The meeting will now come to order. I'm thinking the following.

1:56:51 We do that we switch over from rings to pins and we retroactively give all the knights, the old knights included, the pin. Give them a pin too. Because they need to be wearing the pin too. They can't be like some guy with a ring. Hey I got a ring. No, they need the pin so they can recognize each other at the cocktail party. Okay now have you discussed this, I mean I know we're having a meeting here but have you discussed this with Mimi who will have to be doing this? I don't know it's gonna be an expensive proposition. I don't know what we I First of all, but we have to do it. We can't I agree. No, I agree if if we if we make it past tomorrow

1:57:32 then I think this is a very, Jeb, I think you've hit on a very important thing here. Because, in fact, I don't wear my night ring. I don't wear it around. I wear it to meetups and stuff. But I think the pin, I could just have that on my jacket. What's the name of our jacket company with the concealed carry pocket? No, by bruns. Bruns, yeah bruns clothing. I get a lot of requests by the way people say, hey where do I get that? Made by American ladies. Look up BRUNS. Bruns Clothing. It's Bruns Clothing. He doesn't sell as many jackets as he should be selling. These things are fantastic for anyone that lives north of the Oregon-California border. You should have one of these. And I'm an a-hole because I left Austin, Texas without my blood. I know! I mean, am I this big? I'm thinking maybe I can get the neighbor to go in and send it to me.

1:58:30 We're gonna be here forever. Well the thing it cost it cost like a hundred percent of the average that thing is it heavy? Yeah, yeah, probably cost anyway Okay, so we just want to make sure that everyone knows what we're up to here with the latest changes then can you? Can you get your sword? Yeah here hang on very good Ryan shelter your fiance Chantel limits it's

1:59:19 And Sir Matt Schauer, thank you very much for joining our very exclusive club. For you I have hookers and blow-rent boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, Reuben-ass women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, gerbils and ginger ale, sparkling cider and escorts, and mutton and mead. And I have a feeling that someone wanted to be called a certain night and we didn't do it. And in fact, JC, could you spank that boy? I had to come up with the Thomas, Sir Thomas of the Apocalypse. Someone wanted to be served. Yeah, yeah. What he's getting he's slacking off. He's turning noodle on me. I'll find out. He's turning noodle. What was that? Yeah, it could be. No wait, I gotta do that. He says by the way that his entire generation is the noodle guy. He says you don't, he says there's no way of getting around the noodle boy. That guy is everywhere.

2:00:14 Well that's very, Sir Rodney the Provider, that's what it was. So Sir Rodney the Provider, there you go. I want to get it right. I dub thee. What? I dub thee. I dub thee Sir Rodney the Provider. So yeah, well you know what, I'll have none of that on the best podcast in the universe. It's fine if he wants to be Noodle Boy, but twice a week he can get with the program. Now. So the, yeah, but there was a depressing commentary. This is just the way it is. Everyone's like that. They're all like the new little kid. I think it's because nobody... So I'm listening to one of these talk radio right-wing guys and he's one of the older ones and he says, well, you know, he's talking about the rifle discussion. He says, well, when I was in the rifle club in high school, he's talking about a rifle shooting association club. They had a rifle club of some sort in high school. Sure.

2:01:10 They would, they can't, I can't even imagine how a Berkeley school for example, can do that. Deal with this sort of thing and in fact they don't even in most high schools now they don't even have home ec because oh it's an insult to the woman. Oh yeah because men. To the girls, you go to the girls, make the boys take home ec. We will just not cook. And okay so we have a whole generation of women that can't cook which is fine with me I like to cook but it's beside the point. You know, there's something pathetic about people who can't cook men or women, but now they don't even teach it in school and they don't have the shop class anymore. Nobody knows how to drive a car. I mean, they don't want to drive. They don't care about cars. Nobody can even tune up a car. They don't know how the engine works. And then the rifle thing. Can you imagine? Oh, we can't have a rifle club? No wonder the country's filled with the noodle kid. We are a country of noodle kids, ladies and gentlemen.

2:02:07 It's sad, it's sad. Well, my daughter doesn't have a driver's license and this is a point of tension. I thought she did. No! I thought you bought her a cute little car in London. Yeah, and then she never got her license. Oh, I didn't know that. You don't even want to hear the story about that. Of course, that I'll go blamed on the divorce. Well, you left, so I didn't want to finish my license. Oh, she didn't want to do it. She's in that generation. They don't care. Yeah. There's the Google. The Google self-driving car will serve their purposes and they can work at a noodle shop. Hello, self-driving Google car. Take me to the Google. Take me to the noodle shop. In fact, take your time because I'll show up when I feel like it. I'm no slave. It's the Google noodle mobile. That's what it is.

2:02:59 Oh my god, I hope we all die tomorrow. It'll be better I'd rather go in a fiery blaze tomorrow than have to see my kid tell her Google Noodle mobile to take her to the store late Crikey, so here's good news John Transet holidays has announced starting January holiday packages from Montreal to Haiti That's right! Tourists will spend two nights in upscale hotels in Port-au-Prince before being whisked to the coast for some of that lovely beach. You'll visit the new Iron Market, which was opened by Bill Clinton, a rum factory, a wonderful lookout over the city, and none of the earthquake carnage. That was according to Transat spokesperson Debbie Cabana.

2:02:07 It's sad, it's sad. Well, my daughter doesn't have a driver's license and this is a point of tension. I thought she did. No! I thought you bought her a cute little car in London. Yeah, and then she never got her license. Oh, I didn't know that. You don't even want to hear the story about that. Of course, that I'll go blamed on the divorce. Well, you left, so I didn't want to finish my license. Oh, she didn't want to do it. She's in that generation. They don't care. Yeah. There's the Google. The Google self-driving car will serve their purposes and they can work at a noodle shop. Hello, self-driving Google car. Take me to the Google. Take me to the noodle shop. In fact, take your time because I'll show up when I feel like it. I'm no slave. It's the Google noodle mobile. That's what it is.

2:02:59 Oh my god, I hope we all die tomorrow. It'll be better I'd rather go in a fiery blaze tomorrow than have to see my kid tell her Google Noodle mobile to take her to the store late Crikey, so here's good news John Transet holidays has announced starting January holiday packages from Montreal to Haiti That's right! Tourists will spend two nights in upscale hotels in Port-au-Prince before being whisked to the coast for some of that lovely beach. You'll visit the new Iron Market, which was opened by Bill Clinton, a rum factory, a wonderful lookout over the city, and none of the earthquake carnage. That was according to Transat spokesperson Debbie Cabana.

2:03:52 Wow, I know there are 200,000 people pooping their guts out. Get cholera. Don't worry about it. Is it unbelievable? It's part of the campaign. You'll have a wonderful lookout over the city and none of the earthquake carnage. That's on the other side. Don't worry about it. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. How awesome is that? And you'll see the new iron market and basket weaving and a rum factory. Please pay no attention to the dumb slaves who are eating dirt cakes with cholera. These are the Clinton hotels. Excuse me, as predicted in the Red Book. Oh yeah, we're all over that. Which I'm going to have to bust you, Jeb. Did you find it?

2:04:43 Uhh, you know I have an interesting clip. Okay, yes, I did yes, I will admit I have lost the red book the last one I mean I've got two red books that are full but the third red book which I was I lost about a month ago in the office and I have not been able to find it. I'll find it. It's around Would you please find it for Sunday? I mean, how can you discipline than your your Google, you know your Google noodle kid if you can't even find the red book Yeah, it's a very ashamed of myself Okay, so I got a clip here. Apparently the International Criminal Court has decided not to pursue a case against some African, I don't know which guy it was, one of these African guys that are killing people. But I found something very peculiar in the clip, a piece of information about the International Criminal Court, which I didn't realize until I actually heard this.

2:05:45 In only its second ever verdict the International Criminal Court has acquitted a Congolese warlord charged with crimes against humanity. Ngujolo Chui was accused of directing militias to kill and rape during fighting in the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2003. Judges ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to link Chui to the attacks. Okay. Okay. It would it the phrase in its in its second way the beginning again This is its second case that is that has actually had a verdict Let me hear in only a second ever verdict the International Criminal Court in only this I'm not quite sure I understand what she's saying in only the second the only the second time they've actually come to a verdict and

2:06:36 All these other cases are in abeyance or they're sitting on their asses or doing... There have been two verdicts since 2002 when they formed this court. That's what she said. So the International Criminal Court has only had two verdicts since this thing was formed? And it's right down the street from me, by the way. In The Hague. Let me hear it again. In only a second ever verdict, the International Criminal Court has... My goodness, you're right. I'll give you that one. That's crazy. What do they do? They just lock people up all the time. Oh, attention, attention. JC, guilt ridden, came in and found the red book. Wait a minute. This sounds very, very suspicious. He feels bad, he says. He just apologized. He says sorry about the anonymous. Yeah, but are you sure that he wasn't holding on to the red book somehow?

2:07:32 He had it ditched in his office. Yeah, uh-huh possible. Uh-huh possible. Uh-huh. Okay, it's always possible. Mm-hmm. Okay, let me let me get to something I Let me this is quite disturbing. So we have a number of things that have come out during this this time of of great tragedy and And so there's a number of documents that have become public that of course no one is paying any attention to. And you know what happens when you get a good government document? What happens? I don't know what happens. I get all horny of course. I'm like, ehhhh, government documents. Yeah, that seems to be. Yeah, it seems to be. So they moved to Virginia. It's for lovers, you know.

2:08:20 So we have something brand new which just came out called the National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding. And this is essentially, this is how they're going to do it. So, of course we know that we need cyber legislation and no one really wants to come up with the executive order. How are we going to get the commercial private sector companies to give us the information on the citizens so we can like spy on them and all this? How are we going to do it? But we just come up with this great document, again, the National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding.

2:09:03 I'd like to just recite a few lines from this. This came out today. And so there's a preamble from our president. As president, I have no greater responsibility than ensuring the safety and security of the United States and the American people. No, I'm sorry, that is wrong. Your greatest responsibility is upholding the Constitution. I cannot point that out often enough. You are incorrect, Mr. President. Meeting this responsibility requires the closest possible cooperation amongst our intelligence, military, diplomatic, homeland security, law enforcement and public health communities, as well as with our partners at the state and local level and in, yes, the private sector. This cooperation in turn demands the timely and effective sharing of intelligence and information about threats to our nation with those who need it.

2:09:57 from the president to the police officer on the street. How are you feeling so far, John? I think it's great. Is this not just Gitmo Nation 1984 craziness, New World Order, doublespeak? That was just the preamble. The Nationalist... Yeah, no, it's total crap. Where'd this come from, by the way? From the White House. It was just released today from White House. Of course this is what you do, you release this stuff today when no one's paying any attention. This is not going to be reported on. No of course not, except unless you listen to this show. Thank you. And then he's like since this September 11 2001 terrorist attack blah blah blah blah okay. So you always got to throw that in. Let's throw in some 9-11. That's what George Bush did by the way.

2:10:46 The National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding Strategy aims to strike the proper balance between sharing information with those who need it to keep our country safe and safeguarding it from those who would do us harm, like your government. This includes, I'm jumping around here, protecting private and personal information about United States persons but upholding our commitment to transparency. Ladies and gentlemen, this should be the top of the news. This is your government now basically saying screw you. We're taking everything about you.

2:11:23 From the executive summary our national security depends on our ability to share the right information with the right people at the right time It's about sharing about sharing You got it. I love it when you're on the same wavelength this information sharing mandate requires sustained and responsible collaboration between federal state local tribal territorial Private sector and ooh foreign partners. Let's just share it with everybody share with all your partners Share with all your partner Did you think they have meetings when they put this stuff together laughing? What you got what you got what you got what you got

2:12:14 Anyway, I'm waiting for in the meeting. I'm waiting Jeb. I'm like, oh the meeting. What do you got? What do you got for this? How are we gonna? Yeah, we did some research on this. Yeah, it turns out that You know, if we can use some of the pop phrase that social media is using and kind of twist off of the social media happening thing. Yeah, like that Twitter stuff. Which I understand the kids are into. That Twitter stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's use the word sharing instead of spying. Wait a minute. Think about it. It's the same thing. So instead of saying spying, we just say sharing. This is genius, Jeb.

2:12:56 This is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know the State Department head position is opening up. You might be good for that. I'm like, are you kidding? Get you some great, get you some techno experts. So anyway, the responses to these challenges have to be strategic and grounded. I swear to God this document reads like a pitch from a dot-com company. It's like, hey we're gonna sell Coca-Cola something. Three core principles. Okay, so we have a three-legged stool number one treating information as a national asset Wow, how good is this? Huh? Number two our approach recognizes information sharing and safeguarding requires shared risk management Mm-hmm. And the number three most important the core premise number three is

2:13:55 Information informs decision-making. What? Say that again. Third, the core premise, information informs decision-making, underlies all our actions and reminds us better decision-making is the purpose of sharing information in the first place. Wow! What a tautology, what a bunch of bullcrap. Yeah, but this is what it is, my brother.

2:14:35 This is no joke. This is bad. Yeah, you know, there's like the NDAA. I mean, we're just doomed with these things going through. I wish we could need somebody, a real leader in this country. Yeah, yeah. Put a stop to this crap. Do you want more or do you just want to read it? No, no, I'm done. Okay, so I have this entire document. I think you made your point. I have the entire... As long as the document's available, readers can go, or listeners can go over there and check it out. So, 471.nashownotes.com. It's marked up for your convenience. Let me just read the last three. I have a couple just like rectangles I put in. So we have priority objectives. Provide information sharing, safeguarding, and handling training to appropriate stakeholders using a common curriculum tailored to promote consistent yet flexible and trusted processes. Just love that one.

2:15:24 establish information sharing processes and sector specific protocols with private sector partners to improve information quality and timeliness and secure the nation's infrastructure. I love this. This is so good. All right. I've had it with this. All right. I have a, you know, there's a new drug, a new hot drug on the street. Is it something I can try? The top show right now is this Drugs Inc. show on National Geographic. I don't know anything about it. Hold on. What is this? What is this show? What is this show about? Drugs Inc., man. Here's the teaser. There's a new wave to ride in Puerto Rico.

2:16:06 I'm higher. Known by its street name, anesthesia, this drug is turning the island of enchantment into an island of zombies. He's almost running to get his fix. He's able to walk, but he's not coordinated at all. A high this rare doesn't come cheaply to an island. You have to pay sometimes a lot of money for this work to be made. Drugs Inc. New episode Sunday at 9 on National Geographic. Awesome. Is this about Haiti? No, it's about Puerto Rico. Oh, fantastic. And so it's a drug reality show? I don't even know. I've never... I've watched pieces of it. It's more like a... It's a hybrid show of some sort that's kind of like a quasi-documentary. And...

2:16:51 documentary as reality show kind of thing. It's very, you have to watch it, but this new drug, anesthesia is floating around. Anesthesia? That's the name of it. You use the new anesthesia. And it turns into a zombie and it makes your legs wiggle. Hold on a second. Anesthesia drug? Well, that's not going to get me anything on the Googles. It's gonna get me like anesthesia stuff. Yeah, I know isn't that great? Look it up. What is this stuff? What is it made of? How do we get it? How do we try some like the guy said in the clip? It's expensive to get that high. I can't wait to try it. Maybe well, this is uh, this is of course the Gitmo Nation lowland drug drug hippie place. They should have it here.

2:17:40 Honey, call some friends. Get me the anesthesia drug. We have to do some research on this, but I just thought it's a heads up. I just picked the clip up. I like it. I like it. You kind of got another clip. You kind of got ahead of me because I wasn't quite done with my spying. I share it. I'm sorry. I was getting tired of it. I had some clips. Oh, I guess some good. Okay, play clips. Now I get my one last thing and then I'm out of here. Well, I was going to say that if the government spies on you, what do we call it? We call it sharing. Exactly. And if you hack into a celebrity, what happens? You go to jail for 10 years. You get thrown in jail.

2:18:16 One man headed to prison for hacking into the private email accounts of numerous stars. Christopher Cheney will spend 10 years behind bars for stealing naked pictures of Scarlett Johansson, Mila Kunis and Christina Aguilera and then posting them online. Prosecutors believe Cheney actually hacked into the email accounts of more than 50 people. How can this be? How can you go to jail for 10 years for doing a great public service? I mean, let's be honest. I mean, I'll tell you this. Scarlett Johansson has gotten more publicity I saw those pictures. You can get them. There's a picture of her taking, you know, the funny, the only embarrassing part, she's taking a picture of herself like she was a teenage girl, you know, in the mirror in the bathroom. But she shows her butt. It's a nice butt. You have to say it's a good looking figure she's got there. And then she has another picture she takes of herself, of her right breast.

2:19:05 Which is a nice looking breast. But how can it's nice? How can Pierce Morgan be on television talking about, you know, the machine guns and he he literally oversaw hacking into celebrities phones and on by the way victims of 9-11 but mainly celebrities. But when when some other just dude who's like, hey, I'm gonna get me a picture. It's got a Johansson's boob. He goes to jail for 10 years. What is this just for sharing? He's sharing! He was sharing pictures of Scarlett Johansson. He was sharing them. This is not right. I don't like this. That's crazy. I need to find that court case. There's got to be more to that. I mean, he must have like beaten somebody or shot somebody. How can you get 10 years for hacking into someone's boob picture? Explain. It makes no sense to me either. You know, I always wonder about some of these pictures. Hold on a second.

2:20:04 My daughter posted a picture on Instagram of her butt, okay? And she actually removed it. Her mom said, take it off. And she removed it. Just of her butt. It was like, eh, whatever. Butts are butts. There's a bunch of different kinds of them and they're all different. So a magazine here took that picture, published it in a printed magazine. And of course I did my regular thing, like I sue them, and you get like a thousand euros or something, you get shit money. And that's excluding cost of the lawyer and all this stuff. But the courts here, the courts, since I've, because I've done this a couple times here in Gitmo Lowlands, the courts now are saying, and they're actually using one of my earlier lawsuits as an example, that once you've put it on the internet, it has no value.

2:20:58 Therefore, anyone and a magazine can go and take that, publish it because it really doesn't have any value. Yet if you hack in and you take a picture of Scarlett Johansson's boob, which we know is very valuable to her, you go to jail for 10 years. I mean the world is f'ed up man. This is really not okay. Well somebody sure dogged your daughter. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Well I have a news flash. I didn't know any of this, of course it's all because of global warming. By the way, you see the IPCC, the report that's been leaked out?

2:21:42 Apparently they're starting to lean toward well You know global warming could be caused by sunspots in the Sun and you know because the Sun does heat things up Well, let me maybe it's just a cycle Let me just tell everybody the story because this of course was not covered anywhere the BBC did cover it but the fifth draft though the draft of the fifth and IPCC report which is not due until March I believe was leaked online and of course we have the downloaded documents in our possession IPCC I also have that document PDF in the show notes for 7 1 dot NA shows calm they have said all yes these were documents of our draft but it's just a draft and everything is going to change and this could be your but the relevant piece of the

2:22:27 and the full documents are online. No one is talking about this at all of course, because it's very inconvenient. Here it is. It is reported that... about the possible effect of cosmic rays heating up climate and that undermines the AGW, the man-made climate warming the change of the morphic global warming yes and this is in the report in the draft and this is of course very damning to the entire industry to the movement to the movement so it is it's basically you know it's a draft it's just a draft it can't be true so you know I think the guy probably did a disservice by by popping it now

2:23:16 I don't think that was probably a good idea because now they got all this time to discredit it. Oh yeah, they're going to excise it. But go ahead. In the meantime, good news for India and this is a piece of pure information that a lot of people just don't know and will never know unless they listen to the NOAA agenda show and I think it's important. And now to India where the humble banana is being seen by some as the answer to food shortages caused by climate change. Sohail Rahman reports from an area where some farmers have already transferred their rice and wheat crops to banana. It's cheap, it's popular and very nutritious. And nowhere is it more popular than in India, where the country's farmers grow several varieties. Bananas thrive in southern India's tropical climate. 27 million tons of the fruit are produced each year. Surprisingly, less than 1% of that is exported. Indians can't get enough bananas. I love bananas. They're very healthy and I have one every day.

2:24:23 How do you love bananas, Jeb? You know, the Indians can't get enough bananas. That's the thing that I think is the message. We all need to know this. And I now believe that it's the banana itself that makes the Indians cheap. Wait a minute. How do you come up with this theory? Just came up with it. That's the way. I just came up with it. Well, we know the Indians do not donate. We know. You know who we're talking about. We're looking at you, India. We're looking at you. so while we're in the region I see you have a similar clip but I have a a very basic theory about this report another person injured in this week's attacks on polio vaccination workers in Pakistan has died the man who was shot in the head as he distributed polio drops to children in the city of Peshawar that was on Wednesday is the ninth health worker to lose his life the UN has suspended its polio vaccination program in Pakistan because of those killings the Taliban are being blamed for the attacks

2:25:24 Pakistan's one of just three countries left on the planet now, along with Nigeria and Afghanistan, where polio remains endemic. Alright, what's your take on this story, John? I was hoping you'd have some theory. I just thought, I think it's interesting because it's kind of a blowback to us using the polio or using vaccination teams to map out like the secret police where people were. That's how we found bin Laden. Yes, correct. And now we're saying, screw you, we can't let anybody do any of this crap. We don't care about polio. You know, we're just going to shoot everybody and if anybody, because we don't, they're just

2:26:02 you know they value their privacy more than we do apparently. I agree, I think that they're like you know hey you know we'll if we want to hand out polio vaccinations we'll do that we don't need you United Nations people coming in with your vaccine. It's not like they don't have vaccines, they know how to make the vaccine in Pakistan. I think you're right, I think that they're very suspicious and I think it's great that Taliban is killing them. It's like, you know, it's so obvious to me. Like, you know, what else are they trying to administer? You see that thing where Bill Gates was surprised that a Japanese TV show... Hold on, did you see this? It was pretty funny. Hold on. No. I don't have a clue. Bill Gates baffled by TV Tokyo shows rumor of world control via vaccination. Like he's never heard this.

2:26:52 I actually believe he never has heard it. He has lost touch with the common man. Microsoft Corporation founder Bill Gates expressed annoyance over a Japanese TV program that spread rumors he was, quote, conspiring to control the world population through his efforts to promote vaccinations. And he had no idea that this rumor was out there. Hey Gates listen to the show. Yeah, really? Have you never heard of? All right, I got I got one last thing that is just okay after that then I got one that we're out Yeah, then we're out you got it you guys getting late here, too. You know it's like I'm gonna fall down

2:27:33 So and again for those you wondering about all of this great stuff we talked about today it is in the show notes 471.na show notes calm if you want to know if you want to get to the show notes for the most recent episode I've created a redirect called now dot na show nights calm so there's real easy to now dot na show knows that calm the latest show notes will pop up with links to the show etc so nice yes thank you well it was actually not even my idea I think it was a C mic so The United Nations, the Office of Drug Offenses, which I like because they always publish reports which seem to be pretty true.

2:28:14 In fact, they they they published the first reports that I recall saying that the World Banks have been propped up by laundering drug money and hundreds of billions of dollars and these reports don't get a lot of play in the media because you know I don't know they're truthful, but there is this office You've heard this odd. You've seen these reports John right we kind of like the reports are fantastic great. I So they release the use of internet for terrorist purposes, 158 pages and you can only imagine all of the crazy things terrorists do. But it was brought to my attention, point number 201. I'm going to read this to you and I want to just say, you can laugh at me,

2:29:02 All you want, you can laugh at the random dudes but we are so ahead of the curve, we were actually terrorists before we knew we were terrorists. Here it comes. 201. A novel technique relates to the use of software-defined high-performance, high-frequency radio receivers routed through a computer. In this way, no data is exchanged through a server and no logs are created. It is more difficult for law enforcement and intelligence agencies to intercept communication sent using this method, both in relation to finding the location of the transmitters and with respect to predicting in real time the frequency at which the communications are transmitted. This is exactly what I've been doing

2:29:56 with the random dudes. This is PSK 31, this is JT65, this is the digital modes on HF and terrorists are now using this. Look how awesome I am. Yeah, they'll be knocking at the door. Maybe that's why you're in Amsterdam. The whole point is... Come on, reveal the facts. They can't track you with this system. This is the inner webs of the future. And I would say don't even get a license. They can't find you. Don't even screw the license. You're advocating lawlessness. I am. Stop it. Just get an HF rig, hook it up to your computer, put out a wire antenna and you're good to go. Gitmo Nation. Hey ho.

2:30:44 So the story that's the big story in England is of course the woman who refuses to have her child go through a bunch of... Her kid is named Neon by the way, which I think is odd. I don't know anything about this. How about you just play the clip. UK kid forced to get brain surgery. I don't know anything about this. In Britain, a High Court judge has ruled that a 7-year-old boy with a brain tumour should have more surgery against the wishes of his mother. Sally Roberts told the court she wanted further medical advice before proceeding. Simon McGregor-Wood explains. Sally Roberts' son will have surgery to remove his brain tumour. Not because she wants it, but because a British court demands it. Her seven-year-old son, Neon, has cancer and his doctors say he needs urgent surgery and a course of chemo and radiotherapy. His mother has always objected to radiotherapy and its side effects and her defiance in the face of medical opinion has become a big story. Why are you so adamant that he's not to have this?

2:31:45 It's not that I'm adamant, it's just I've been asking the whole time, please show me evidence that he does need this treatment and the only thing they can come up with is a study from the 1940s. Okay, this is interesting, this is a big story. It is not a big story in neighboring Gitmo lowlands. Well, it's not a big story here either, it's off the BBC. So, the thing that I thought was interesting about this is that she brought the point up, and they call it radiotherapy, which is radiation. Yeah, they call it radio and that brought to mind a couple of things. By the way, they call it radiotherapy in the UK, Canada and Australia. No place else in the world calls it that because it's not radio. They also call it radiotherapy here in the lowlands. It's ridiculous. It's a misnomer. They don't want to use the word radiation. And which also brings to mind, if you remember the early days of some of the craziness with the

2:32:42 naked body scanners, they say, oh, it's the same as a radio. It's the same as your phone. It's the same radiation you get from your phone, which is a radio. So they're trying to mix us, they're mixing up the idiots out there that they do want to think that radio and radiation are two different things. In this case, I mean, it is two different things, but it's but this is they're using radio, they're using it improperly as far as I'm concerned. Right. But anyway, so I started, look, I looked into the history of radiation therapy. Check out the Wikipedia's got a really good history of radiation therapy. People should go read it. It's hilarious. And this woman's right. There's there's no evidence.

2:33:18 Radiation therapy does anything except from some anecdotal stories from the turn of the century. Really? So you're telling me that this entire industry based on frying people's cancer out does no good? Just read the history and you can figure it out for yourself. There's a very funny history because it includes the period of time in the early 1900s where radiation was considered a good thing, you know, and you should get jazzed by some x-rays or they had these cups they used to sell and they still see them on auction once in a while, so radiation cup. It's a cup made out of uranium or some alloy and you put water in it and you drank the water and it was good for you. It's crazy, crazy, crazy history. Well, you heard it first here from Professor Dvorak who is an expert. It's crazy. And of course, did you not work at a radiologist station at some point in your illustrious career? No, it's one of the few things I never did. Pretty much everything else you've done though. Oh yeah.

2:34:22 All right. I think that's good. Is that it? Yeah, I got a couple of the minor clues that are unimportant. We'll maybe run them out on Sunday, whatever. I'm gonna be up in Port Angeles at the bunker up there. Oh, that's nice. Well, for Sunday's show, hopefully. That's what you think. Yeah, as if there's gonna be a Sunday. Yeah, yeah, right. It's still up in the air. Which reminds me, people should just give us all, you know, just immediately dump their whole accounts into our account and we'll be in good shape if there is a Sunday. If there is a Sunday. Well, it's day 14 of Adam and Miss Mickey living in exile here in Gitmo Nation lowlands. Double the rent, double the flavor, double the pleasure. Hoping we make it through to another day as we await word from our slave masters.

2:35:14 that tell us that we can go back to where we really want to be. The land of milk and honey and of semi-automatics. Coming to you from the lowlands here, from the canals of Amsterdam. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're gonna have a white Christmas. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hey John, I just want to say it was good working with you, just in case, you never know. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. You never know. Thanks. Alright, see ya on the other side, maybe if we're lucky. Here. Adios, mofos. The best podcast in the universe. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K.