This That and the Other

00:00 who doesn't like to be in the same and i'm curious john c devorah it's thursday december thirteenth two thousand twelve times you get my nation media assassination episode four six nine this is no agenda coming to you from giving a nation living in exile in amsterdam in the morning everybody i'm adam curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm frustrated with crappy captures that really suck, I'm John C. DuBois. Well if that's all we have to worry about then we're gonna be okay. Then we'll be just fine. I think it's a representative of bigger problems. Bigger problems in the Twitter-swear. Twitter-swear. No, just in society at large.

00:49 Hey man, so how do I sound? I mean I can almost do my nails while running the show here. I've got all this groovy gear. Sound nails man. Yeah. So after Sunday's show, in fact Monday morning, you know that most shops are closed in the Netherlands on Monday morning? They don't open until... I know Sunday. No, but I had forgotten about this, but most shops are closed until one o'clock on Monday. And I don't know... The reason for that is? Well, I was gonna say I don't know the genesis of that. I do recall as a wee lad, I remember, oh no, some shops weren't open at all on Monday. So if you want to go to... I went to Dykeman, Dykeman Music. What Dykeman? Dykeman Music in Amsterdam. I went in and went like, all right, I produce the best podcast in the universe. I need some gear.

01:48 And the guy went like, really? Really? I'm so not impressed with you right now. Podcast? What's a podcast? Can you tell me what a podcast is, bud? And then I can maybe get you some gear. And it's really interesting. This is now probably the third time in my life that I've built a podcast studio. And of course, by now I know exactly what the routing has to be, I know exactly all the boxes that I want, and I can cobble it together from almost anything. But I'm so amazed, do you think there's a market? Because essentially I've got a mixer, I've got one, two, three, I've got four separate outboard boxes, I've got the microphone. I could condense all this into one beautiful small box that would be the definitive

02:36 Podcast rig. Do you think there's a market for us to like just make this thing already? You know, it's just wow what? That's a great idea. Seriously? I mean, do we have, can we talk to like, where do they make the iPhone over there in China? China, Foxconn. There's dozens of Chinese vendors, even though they're not that trustworthy, but we could find some way of making sure that it happens. We can spec it out and they'll make a prototype. Do you really think... We can test the prototype. Can we really do this? I mean, is this really a possibility? Yeah, it is another thing. We could. This is like one of our books that we're going to do.

03:12 Is this like a book that we're never gonna publish or this is we could easily do it Seriously because I would be into it because I think I think there's value and I look at so, you know I'm I just was so frustrated after after the last show I'm like And I said to Mickey, I said, I'm not even talking to John. I'm just gonna go and invest the money Because it's you know, we're gonna be here for you know, a couple more weeks. We don't know what's going on I can't live like this. We can't produce the best podcast in the universe without some decent gear and so with everything and I actually I wound up having to buy a microphone as well, even though I have my blue mic with me and

03:51 Of course, the blue microphone, I was running it through the USB and if you want to plug in the XLR, it has its own little special multi-plug which just goes to show how stupid that system really is. It's not like a universal XLR thing. So I spent 1148 euros getting everything we needed including really good cables, not crappy cables and the cables are like 10 euros a pop and there's tons of cables. So, you know, that was a high ticket item, but if you translate it into US dollars, I guess it's like $8,000, we should be able to make it cheaper. Well, I think the problem you're going to run into, I like this, I'd love to spec it out, and I think what you...

04:35 I think you could probably make, there's probably a number of presets that are universal that, so in other words you'd have a built-in compressor because you like the sound. Well this is my point, you know we have a built-in compressor limiter gate, we have you know, you get your five The whole thing is basically one big preset box. You don't need to have all these wires and all this stuff hanging out. But you have two sets of compressor limiter, one with a gate and one without a gate. And then it's just routing. It's just the routing in the mixer. The mixer is the cheapest thing. These Yamaha mixers are like 150 bucks. They're nothing and they're made of plastic. It's heavy because of the

05:15 The power supply that's a that's you know, it's it's just plastic nothingness inside. Yeah, you can actually use a brick for the power supply. Yeah, yeah, we could have one power supply for the whole thing. And then you supply your computer and everything else is just automatic. You can have four guests, you can have guests on Skype or on mumble. All the mix minusing is all set up. It's all done perfectly. And, you know, just adjust these little knobs to your own tinny voice and you know, and you get your sound. And then you're good to go. It could be in one beautiful box. We could sell it to churches. We could sell it. Who else needs a podcast? Everybody. Everybody. That's right. Everyone needs a podcast. No, everybody needs a podcast. I've always said that. We'll have our picture on the front. You know, the two our heads like with our thumbs up. This is the rig we use as heard on the best podcast in the universe. I'm telling you, it would be perfect. It would be perfect.

06:09 Well, we have in we have exactly what nine days to do it before the world ends. We got a hurry Well, we can spec it out before the world ends and then see what happens afterwards Because it's possible that are only gonna take the born-again Christians Right, then they lift they come with apparently they lift right off the ground Yeah, and go into the sky where I guess the vacuum blows them up. I don't know what happens. I Oh man, so here we are in Gitmo Nation lowlands where global... they didn't get the memo about global warming here. It is very, very chilly. In fact, I'd say bone chillingly so. Very, very cold here in the winter and there's weird stuff going on which I think is probably indicative of Europe in general as I've now kind of integrated on what... and I have to say some of the

07:04 state-controlled broadcasts on television, it's kind of fun to watch because there's no way you would have this type of programming on a commercial station. You know what I mean? There is some craziness that's going on that you just, there's just no way that would fly in a commercial world and I kind of like that. Now on the other hand, this place is commie central, dude. This place is going, they're nuts here. So now, because of course they're in the middle of austerity and so everyone has to shut up slave and we're going to take your money away. They have now hired commercial bill collectors to help the IRS collect

07:48 Back taxes so you can be sitting at home and be like 738 o'clock at night You know you're having a little coffee after dinner the doorbell rings and there'll be one of these commercial bill collectors on behalf of The Dutch government to come and collect your back taxes Billy. Yeah beard. Yeah, well, well, it's lots of weird stuff the thing that I like the most here that I learned is something called hallo Housing allow halal housing. Yes. H a l a l. Yes. Hello as in halal meat You're familiar with the halal products. Okay. So what is halal produce or hello? Hello products that you know, it's it's it's usually it's a Targeted Muslims. Mm-hmm

08:39 It has stricter controls on cleanliness and obviously there's no such thing as halal pork. And you find it at grocers, it's actually a better quality product usually. And it's also, the Jews also, or most of the Jewish diaspora have eat halal so it has to do with cleanliness and yes how its process specifically so the halal living quarters the halal homes they are now discussing in the Netherlands is the Muslim community, which is growing here, as you know, in most of Western Europe, the Muslim community, which is immigrated, is growing. They feel they need halal housing, so they can basically cordon off a portion of the house so the wife and other women folk can be behind there and so they don't have to look at them.

09:39 And so the you know the gut which I think there's something to it, you know, it's like, you know Just put the women back there. Maybe should have a little hole a little glory hole You know, you could get some servicing if you want, but this is the actual conversation I mean and and I get this of course from the cab drivers who bring me up to up to speed They're like hey man. Have you heard about the halal housing? I said no and this is a big topic and I would say that if you type Halal housing into Google, you get lots of information and most of it is happening in the Netherlands. Yeah, so I'm not full of crap. This is really true. You're full of crap. But when someone tells you like Halal housing, you're like yeah, okay, whatever. But it's really true.

10:26 This is really happening over here. This is weird man. It's really really weird Apparently a lot of the headlines is halal homes ignite religious row. Yeah. Well, that's probably the BBC matter of fact it is Yeah, yeah. Well BBC is you know, they're just waiting for this to you know to propagate across all of Europe into their little island over there and get more nation East and So this doesn't surprise me that they're already making fun of it and talking about the row that will commence. So those are kind of like the main topics and I have a feeling that... This is totally unknown to us here, even though the American Renaissance webpage seems to be... The hello... American Renaissance? Yeah, that sounds like... Was it Front Page or Front Line or one of those like real anti-Muslim outfits? Funny!

11:23 so the american renaissance that could get a pop-up a message from jared taylor uh... and what is jared have to say for himself but she was funny is jared taylor i know jared taylor okay and he uh... the long story i have to do a little sting and jared taylor someday but he's like a major uh... he's kind of a spokesman because force himself to become a spokesperson for the extreme uh... Yeah, exactly. That's what American Renaissance sounds like. It sounds exactly like that. But the thing is, we have a lot of... In the Netherlands there's government housing and there's still a lot of this commie-based stuff. So the discussion is not just having halal housing. In America, if you want to have a halal house, go ahead, build whatever you want. You can put your women behind the sliding door. It's up to you.

12:21 and up to your women. But here it's they want the government to build certain halal housing, you know, for the people who come in. It's like, you know, so we're welcoming. So one feels comfortable when they come to live here. And there's still, there's a lot of tension, I would say. As long as they don't build mud huts. I was watching So in America now, of course, there's no conversation whatsoever about it here. We get CNN International, which is way different than the CNN you see in the States. So there's actually some international news or showbiz news of an international nature. But then I'm watching this conversation about the right-to-work state, which is a very interesting concept

13:18 Maybe we should get into that for a second, but the thing that I wanted to play in relation to Europe is Michael Moore, who was on Current TV, and of course this was in Michigan which is the latest now right-to-work state and what that means. That's a pretty Orwellian term actually, it's kind of cool because that's nothing to do with their right to work necessarily. But he propagates a lie and as a freshly reminted European I just have to call him on it. The European Unions after World War II

13:55 They, here's how it, here's what they did differently than our unions. They decided not to just work for their own members. They wanted societal change. So the reason why you have universal free healthcare throughout all of Europe... Excuse me, Mr. Michael Moore. Seriously? Universal free healthcare throughout all of Europe? Is that what I just heard you say? You're full of crap. In fact, in the Netherlands, you see nothing but ads the whole day from different health insurers like, oh, it'll only cost you 50 euros a month per person with us. Oh, it'll cost you 79 euros per person per month, asterisks with us. Everyone is paying for their health care. There is no universal free health care throughout all of Europe.

14:44 And it certainly is not even free in the United Kingdom. It is built into the system. But this meme of like it's free and it's all beautiful and the Europeans are so smart, no. It's because the European Unions in the 40s said we don't want this just for our members, we want this for everybody and we're not settling for anything less. Yeah, how'd that work out? It's so groovy over here. So I looked up the term right-to-work state. Because I wanted to understand what was going on because it's such an interesting term. And Texas, it turns out, is a right-to-work state. And what it means is that you have a right to work at a company without being obligated to pay union dues. Is that the... Have I synopsized that properly?

15:40 yeah it's actually uh... that that's essentially it right you don't have to join the union to work that means you have the right to work without having uh... what now what's your take on this what you're telling me i'm i'm a member of uh... several unions the uh... green actors guild and the uh... american federation television radio and the screen actors guild when i did swamp thing thank you very much Why don't you get your health care from them? Because I get it free from Mevio. Kind of free. I have to fill out my timesheet and I have to upload some stupid shows to their website and then I get health care for it. Why would I take it from them if I'm getting it from a company already? You don't get it for free from SAG, you gotta pay for it. SAG had a good deal though.

16:32 It's not, I mean, Nikki's looked at it. We have actually weighed it. I think we're okay with where we're at right now. SAG is a little git mowy, but it's there. It's good to have it. Let's go back. I'm sorry. What was the question? The question is what do you think about this right to work? I mean, the idea that there are, because people are really passionately upset about this. I mean, people are freaking out over this. Well, what it does is a union busting. It's a union busting measure. It's a known union it's a way to break up unions and the thing is the unions in this country have been broken up by by laws that were passed by both the Democrats and the Republicans which have made it illegal in fact Buzzkill Jr. did all the research on this

17:14 There was apparently some bill, and I have a clip later in the show which shows you how this kind of thing works. But there was a bill that was passed which was like the pro-labor act to promote unions, you know, kind of thing. It went through Congress. And in the bill they said it's now illegal to have a general strike. It's a felony. And it's also a felony to have a wildcat strike. So if you organize a wildcat strike, in fact they're still trying to track down the guys who did the wildcat strike on a Walmart somewhere around the country. They just got to, even if you're not in the Union, you get everybody in your company to say screw this place, we're walking off. You've just committed a felony. Right. And they'll throw you in jail.

17:58 So there's no, the union movement in this country has been completely killed off by the powers that be for various reasons. The unions also killed themselves off by going along with the program and by not changing with the times. I mean, I remember when I was a union organizer And I had gotten some... Hey, kid, come over here. You better sign up or else I'll cap your knees, bitch. And I went to some training. I went to some of these things that make you go to listen. And I'll tell you, it's like... It's the whole attitude is the old, it's not my job, there's no cooperation. They promote non-cooperation which doesn't work. Imagine Silicon Valley where you're a programmer or you're a video editor, you're editing something and you're also coding your own site. You've got a web, you maybe have a blog.

18:52 now and i can do the blog because it's not your job is that specked out specifically what we have this of course we know about this in the motion picture industry where if there's an actor you touch a light then the the whole shoot can be used to shut down for the entire day or a week or for the rest of production because you overstepped the union boundary. You moved the light because you're thinking, you know, hey can I help you move that light? Nah, it's not your job. Well let me help you. No, and then boom they shut down the production. That is where the union thing headed. It very slowly headed to such not, because it was all based on assembly line work.

19:27 So, you know, you had a spot on the assembly line and you're supposed to put a bolt on there. You're not supposed to be wandering all over the place. And so it made sense in the 20s and 30s. But during a period where the structure of industrialism changed and cooperation was more and more needed, so people had to do multiple things, the unions couldn't adapt to that. And so they've essentially put themselves out of a job. So here's what's interesting. They're old fashioned. They're very old fashioned. So here's what's interesting. The minute you bring something like this up, immediately Buzzkill Jr. starts posting stuff in the chat room, in the back channel. And here's what he posts, because I know you don't look at that. He says, you know, you can get fired off of a job in a right-to-work state instantly. Well, yeah, what's wrong with that? What if you just suck?

20:19 I'm not against any of this. That's a noodles attitude kind of in a way and I really like Buzzkill Jr. But I've never understood the, you know, it's like, well, you can't fire me. Yeah, you should be. I think it's good. Let's look at this more objectively. I'm pretty objective. You really actually can't fire somebody for no good reason on any company in any state and write the work or not because there are state laws about, you know, Discrimination there's a but there's a slew of I'm not firing him cuz he's black Go away You're firing him because of some reason that has to be real right like yeah The guy's a bonehead and he's son. They're peeing on the product I'm peeing on the product as it goes through and you fire him yeah

21:14 Let me just write this down. Let me just make sure I've got it right. It could also just be if you just suck or does it have to involve urination on said product? Or can you just like just not be a good worker? Is that possible? I think it is. You can fire somebody who's not a good worker. It's not in your best interest to keep them around and it's not your best interest to fire a good worker. Right, exactly. Yeah, no, I mean he's, I don't know what he's mentioning. A little noodley. Well, just a little noodley. It's just a little bit. It's the kids. It's just the kids. But the whole thing is just like this... By the way, where's the spreadsheet? He's sat in the back seat. What is he doing? Let's fire this kid because he's black, gay and he's pissing on the spreadsheet. This is no good. You're right. What is he doing? Where's the spreadsheet? Here we are talking about our only employee

22:07 Who by the way would probably quit before we'd have a chance to fire him. I've had it with you two boneheads. He's probably already quit. It's just funny. It's just funny. Anyway, so yeah, no, they apparently Michigan of all places the home of the American Invention of the assembly line in Michigan goes right to work. It's amazing. Yeah, and But people are really angry. I'm hearing like, you know, it's the Koch brothers. It's like always the Koch brothers don't care when President Obama was in Detroit and

22:48 He had a very interesting speech and and I was trying to understand this as a help me dissect this Today Daimler is announcing a new first of all, I like the fact that you're talking about a German company Daimler Daimler. Yeah Mercedes-Benz Mercedes Daimler. They're announcing a new $120 million investment into this plant creating 115 good new union jobs. How many jobs? That's what I don't understand. It's $120 million and it's 115 jobs. Why don't you just give everyone a million bucks?

23:28 It's 115 jobs? That's it? Yes! Wow! But they're good union jobs! Union jobs! Listen to that again. I was like, this can't be right. $120 million investment into this plant creating 115 good new union jobs. And they overpay those union guys. Apparently that's why they can only afford 115 of them. For $120 million. What are they doing? What are they... Building turbochargers. Yeah, that's gonna work when everyone has to have 50 miles to the gallon. Yeah, turbocharger. Turbochargers.

24:13 But the guy who really laid it down, Jeffrey Immelt, who we'll be talking about in a moment I'm sure, in regards to a fine concert in New York. Yeah, you notice that they got involved in that too. Oh yeah. So Jeffrey Immelt, who is not only the chief executive and chairman of GE, General Electric, But he's also on the president's economics job committee. I think he's the chairman of the president's job economic thing. He advises the president on jobs. The bogus drinking club committee. So he's on Charlie Rose and he says something really amazing to me. China's changing. The growth rate has gone from double digits to right around 8%. It may be being stabilized now as we speak. What does that mean for China? And what does it mean for the United States? And should it change the expectations? Look, I think it's good for China actually. You know, to a certain extent, Charlie, 11 or 12% is unsustainable.

25:15 You know, you end up getting too much stimulus or you get a misallocation of resources. They're much better off working on more of a consumer-based economy, less dependent on exports, driving technology and innovation harder. Really, the one thing that actually works, you know, state-run communism may not be your cup of tea, but their government works. Okay. This is the guy who's in charge of like advising the president on jobs. Hey communism state-run jobs everybody it works Are you kidding? That's close to clip of the day already. You want to hear the rest of it? He elaborates a little bit. Yeah. You know, and they have five-year plans. I always tell our team, read the 12th five-year plan, which is the segment we're in. Typically what they're doing makes sense.

26:13 You know, like telling people to shut up, live in a box, have one kid. In the Chinese context, that's what they're doing now. You know, the new president comes in, Mr. Xi comes in, he's got an agenda, and they're driving environment, they're driving company reform. Anyway. This guy's a bullcrapper. This is just kissing the Chinese butt on behalf of General Electric to sell jet engines. Oh yeah. So I need to make a little announcement. And the announcement is No matter what you heard, no matter what they told you,

26:56 The world was not watching the concert for Sandy no matter how many numbers they put up of different countries No one gave a crap. This was not in the papers. No one was talking about it You know, there was a little blurb this morning that show like Bon Jovi and Springsteen like oh, yeah They had a concert for Sandy in America. This was not live aid Okay, it was not we are the world In fact, it was this is what rich middle-aged white people do instead of changing their Twitter icon. Is they put on a concert and circle jerk money around. This was the... I have a couple of clips about this. Well, good. I have one clip, but I want to have two clips and I have some research that I need to get into because this thing is making...

27:51 When we talked about it on Sunday, I said, you know, this thing is presented by Chase. Now, I saw the report today, they raised $50 million, apparently, which will go to all these other little charities who will then, you know, suck up salaries and stuff and do all kinds of things. And I want to talk about one or two specifically. No. What? No. What no? You play McCartney, he tells you where the money goes. Oh, okay, it was here. Come on. And anyone watching on the TV, keep donating because it's going to the best cause, Robin Hood, of taking it right to the people. Yeah, by the way, I love the name Robin Hood because it gives you that whole vibe of like, yeah man, he's taking it from the rich and giving it to the poor. Yeah, bull crap.

28:46 Bull crap! Do you know how much this organization... Here, before we play another clip. So after we bitched and moaned, all of a sudden, magically, they published their 2011 Form 990. I mean, right? Oh yeah, I'll just say it. Incidents? I think not! All of a sudden, oh, there's their Form 990. And I was like, wow, that's pretty interesting. So, let's see, in 2011 they brought in $164,898,420, which is damn good, I'd say. How many people do you think work at this Robin Hood organization that steal from the rich and give to the poor? How many people do you think work there? By the way, just as an aside, Robin Hood was a criminal. Thank you. He was a total criminal.

29:38 How many people I would say a couple I'd say a thousand people Just just people on staff not not in all the other organizations just the people to run the logistics So not the concert organizers just the people who sit at the office a hundred and twenty six 126 and the and David Saltzman the executive director and CEO gave himself a raise His base salary for 2011 was five hundred and sixty five thousand seven hundred and seventy eight dollars And he received a bonus for hitting certain targets of six seventy six thousand four hundred and thirty seven dollars So the guy is making almost three quarters of a million dollars a year of your money. I

30:25 For God knows what and then you know, of course, we still have all the same people including Harvey Weinstein's Cousin or brother Michael Weinstein he's in for four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So these people are all making three four hundred grand But here's the stuff that really upsets me so compensation of current officers directors trustees and is $3 million. Other salaries and wages, just other $7.2 million, just other stuff, just other. It's not even specified, just other. That's party, that's the beer bong. They have invested

31:03 ninety three and a half million dollars in limited partnerships at fair market value so that's where the money goes the money comes in and then they invest it to make more money of course they may so they bring in a hundred sixty three million hundred six three million million million dollars i'd jenny the study with these guys are up to bring in that kind of money and then they just instead of giving it to the charities that they claim to give to the invested into uh... Stocks and bonds, yeah, limited partnerships. Stocks and bonds? Yes, limited partnerships. They invested 36 million in Central American Caribbean, what do they call it, investments. 26 million in Europe and 4 million in North America. And this is a New York charity, I'll remind you. Now, entertainment. So in 2011, they had a benefit dinner and they had a rock concert.

32:00 Then they had other events and they pay for their entertainment because these people who show up who are on stage They are not doing it for free. We know that Stevie Wonder got a half a million dollars They've stopped specifying that by the way exactly who got what? but for the benefit dinner in 2011 they paid the entertainment people on stage not the staging and Not the concert organizers, that is specified, just the entertainment, the entertainers. $4.869 million dollars. For the rock concert they did in 2011, $11 million dollars. Sure they made a lot of money, but the entertainers, why do you think they're all happy up there?

32:48 Why do you think Bon Jovi is standing there going like yeah? Why do you think Paul McCartney is like for how much you gonna pay me? Yeah, I'll be I'll be Kurt Cobain Hell yeah, I mean hell yeah, so they paid 17 million dollars in entertainment costs and again They gave you know a cool. What is it? $400,000 to SEIU home industry they paid their architect over a million dollars their architect and lots of money and they're spending it. Yeah, but this is so, you know, they're not all that rather good. What actually, what bothers you at the base level about this? Let me guess. You're not bothered by the fact that they're taking in money and spending money. I mean, everybody, businesses do that, charities do that.

33:37 I mean even we do it, even though it's not those kinds of numbers to say the least. But people do that. But this is, I think what bothers you is this is presented as some sort of a... Big ass charity, we love you and we're doing it for the people. Yeah, we're doing it for the people but we're investing the money on the people's behalf apparently and then they never get the money. Well there's a couple of things. They had a bunch of ads. Hold on a second, before you get to that, and then I want to let you roll, okay? Chase so they raise 50 million dollars 50 million dollars is a rounding error on chases bonus checks. Okay, it's bullcrap money It's you know, it's a it's you've got Sykes who runs clear channel who single-handedly ruined radio in America and you've got Weinstein, you know So, of course everyone's gonna show up for these guys, especially because they're getting paid. It's one big

34:29 big circle jerk feel good change your twitter icon into we rock we are the world and then they don't even give this money you know if you took that 50 million dollars and you gave a million dollars to 50 families I'd feel better but they don't they give it to all these other non-profit organizations who all have their own salaries and all have their own overhead and we still it's like Haiti it's the same people who did Haiti in fact This and then I'll get off of this. So one of our producers, one of our, I get really angry about this. One of our producers sent me an email and the whole world was copied on it from Avery Jean. And I presume Avery Jean is related to Wyclef Jean. And this is from Artists United for Haiti. And he forwards me the email. It says, hi everyone. I hope all is well. I probably interacted with you in the past in connection with Artists United for Haiti Inc.

35:22 Hope all is well, I'm inviting you to participate in a music relief effort for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. We're calling everyone to take part in using their particular set of skills, hence your graphic design skills. Tomorrow night in New York, a number of superstars are putting on a major concert to help out. Our effort is a unique opportunity for you to help out with your individual talent. We need you to use your graphic design skills to create a great logo for this simple in character for the New Yorkers for New Yorkers Music Relief. So another thing, your participation would be on a voluntary basis, we're asking your help, blah blah blah. Thank you Jean. So I go look, of course the first thing I do is I go check out, this is Artists United for Haiti, who have their non-profit status has been revoked by the IRS because they haven't filed a Form 990 in three years. So this is a scam, you go to the website,

36:15 Artists united for Haiti org it's a half of a cached website parked if you go to it on a on your phone You immediately get an app for porn because it's you know, because the parking site Sniffs out that you're on a mobile phone. It tries to give you a porn app. It's a scam. It's a scam It's unbelievable scams All of this if you want to help people. I mean we know what how Haiti worked out It's the same people there's they're ripping you off. They're having a great time. They're all hanging out Oh, I got to hang out with Roger Waters. I got to hang out with with Pete Townsend. I got to hang out with Bon Jovi It sickens me. I throw up in my mouth and then we get Brian Williams. Oh

37:00 Brian Williams the guy who used to do segment pieces for Channel 4 in New York about women getting boob jobs And he hit on the women after they had just gotten a boob job They're still taped up that guy who's now the anchor of NBC Evening News He he comes on and this is what he his contribution to the world of music Presented by Chase. Chase. What's it's hookup? GE. Verizon. Galaxy. Ah, Galaxy. Time Warner Cable. Time Warner Cable. And here it comes, listen up. And Q Brian.

37:40 Any kids in the audience tonight that was your uncle Keith moon You're gonna learn how to say a lot of new things if you stay with us throughout the evening and that was your uncle Roger Daltrey Okay, so memo to Brian Williams. Hey, hey, hey, you always give me crap about lousy clips Was that what did you have a TV set in a bucket? Yeah, this was sent to me. I'm on the road here I'm on the road Brian Williams just said alligator clips Brian Williams just said that was Keith Moon on stage Okay, Brian Williams you a-hole Keith Moon has been dead for 25 years Okay, he was not on stage. I don't care how he was thinking rhetorically He was speaking as though the ghost of Keith Moon was there you get my point how sad how sad this whole thing is and

38:32 Yep, and no one cares anymore. Did you see any of this concert? No, I saw maybe three songs on the stream because of course, you know, I woke up early this morning and I caught some of it Okay, but I saw it. Oh, all right. What did you say John? Oh Well, I actually made a little DVD for you which I'll send to you if you need to see some of this stuff. Because it was so outrageous? I'm watching The Who, supposedly, and I'm looking and I'm saying, why is Bill Clinton singing lead?

39:11 I'm looking at, wait a minute, that's not Bill Clinton, it's Roger Daltrey who looks now, looks like Bill Clinton. He's got his gut hanging out, he's got a big wig on that looks like Clinton's hair. He must be bald as a billiard, I guess. And besides him and Pete Townsend, I swear to God, at least four times they almost fell over. Just trying to, you know, it was really bad, the who cunt thing. And they played like 30 songs, they played like a million songs. The Rolling Stones came out, it was hard to look at. I mean, just hard to look at. I don't know who's gonna go to these concerts. This is my point, this is what old middle-aged white guys think is cool. Oh, let's put on a concert.

39:58 It's the only it's like what? Yeah, actually paul mccartney had to say was at least a consummate professionally as a young band and at least he he was at least could perform but The other guys couldn't but it was yeah, you're right because they showed the audience and this was the best part And the clip I have for you that i'll send to you you get to see it is like they're singing some old who's song and then they show the audience and there's a bunch of Beyond middle-aged old ladies and guys who are like stockbrokers Yeah, and they're all mouthing and they're jumping around as though that they're really cool It was like it was like it was rocked man. It was so great. It helped people you didn't help people you fat-ass get off your fat ass and go down and really help someone I

40:45 If you want to help somebody just give money directly. Yes. Go down there and help. They did have a promotion making it look as if they had all these guys with these blue t-shirts supposedly that were helping people. I mean I didn't get these reports. Yeah. Here's my clip, the 12-12-12 clip which starts off with the same list of donors and then goes to a clip of people who are being helped by a bunch of guys in blue t-shirts and on the back of the blue t-shirts emblazoned JPMorgan Chase and supposedly these volunteers are just crawling all over the place which is not the reports we're getting. No. But you can play this and you get a sense of it. Okay so this is my my foreigner living abroad in exile here's what here's the the real flavor of this fantastic concert which will help nobody.

41:39 12-12-12, the concert for Sandy Relief, presented by Chase, with support from GE, State Farm, Optimum Light Pack, and Poland Spring. Poland Spring? Wow. No commercial interruption! I've been through quite a few hurricanes. Never in my life did I see destruction like this. All right now who's this? Who's this talking? Who's this? Some woman, some anonymous person. Okay. Fourteen years ago we opened up the restaurant called Jacob Ops Bang. Storm washed us away. Came in like a big giant and took us right out. These are homes. Their kids go to school, they live here. And there's nothing left.

42:35 By Tuesday afternoon, we had started the pantry. And it's just grown since then. Volunteers are coming in here, pulling out sheetrock, ripping up floors. Everybody keeps bringing supplies. What do you need? What do you have? What can we get for you? I thought it was my obligation to come out here and give a hand. It's a sense of the community coming together and there's a sense of relief. Everybody's down here to help, it's amazing. It brings people together. To come here and help others that can't help themselves, that is what gives you hope. I can't even explain how strong everybody is. I'll be here every day they need me. What happens next? We rebuild. Somehow we figure out how to rebuild.

43:23 What is the irony of or just how ironic is it to see Pink Floyd performing on stage with a Chase logo? How wrong is that? I mean these were these Pink Floyd are the anti-machine guys the anti-establishment You know leave teacher leave those kids alone. You know money. It's a gas the whole thing It's just it's bizarre to me. It's just bizarre and then you and then you look at the tweets I'm like oh man the 21st of December can't come fast enough. We need to kill people off and

44:00 Sad tweets. They had the tweets emblazoned across a giant crawler across the top of the stage. A very well produced event I'd say generally speaking. Well, they should. They're apparently paying top dollar. And it was a big promotion for Chase. JPMorgan Chase. I thought they were very credible at the way they handled it. I mean, they're gonna probably do just exactly what happened with Haiti. None of this money's gonna go to these people. Or they're gonna be gouged. What's State Farm doing sponsoring the thing? Why aren't they up there with their adjusters giving people money that they owe them? No, no, because all the adjusters are at the concert, second row. I got no time for that.

44:43 I'm glad we got that out of our system. Since now we're going to be thanking our 121212 knights who came in to help us. Well let me first say in the morning to you there John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and all knights and dames who keep this show alive so we can skewer various operations that we find to be offensive. Yeah, bogative, bogative, bogative, bogative. Thank you so much. And of course, in the morning to all of you. We got a lot of good material for today's show, by the way. It'll be worth it. Yeah, let me thank all of our human resources.

45:19 Not only the ones who are in the chat room know agenda stream calm know agenda chat net But all the ones who sent lovely words of encouragement and well wishes to miss Mickey Who is doing much better? Thank you very much. Yes, you doing okay? Yeah, she's she's a let me just check. Are you alive? Are you still alive? She's like, in the morning. You know, the infection she had, it made her back numb and cold. Does that make any sense? I know a lot of people get a backache, a really harsh backache from that. Yeah, well it was not good. So, of course just living in Gitmo lowlands by itself right now is just a bit of a hardship. I am literally... What?

46:08 You got to take advantage of the free health care that's throughout Europe. Well, no. Check this out. There is no free health care. We had to pay for it. And then maybe we'll get reimbursed. No, no, no. I'll tell you where all the money's going here. We went to the museum, the Stadelick Museum, the Museum of Modern Art, which has been reopened. What they did is they built a whole new shell around the outside of the building, which is pretty cool what they've done. But it looks like a bathtub. And you go in there and it's like, yeah, there's some cool stuff, I mean for sure. But then you get to the room where they've got pictures scotch-taped to the wall. I'm like, okay man, I mean, this is where I get a little cynical.

46:53 This is part of the exhibit picture scotch tape to the wall? Yes, literally. Really? Hell, I can do that here. But see this is what I keep telling Miss Mickey and then she's like, shh, be quiet. It's like, but I can do this. This is bull crap. Bull crap. I mean, there's some amazing stuff in there, no doubt about it. But you know, the scotch tape pictures on the wall and the guy urinating on a chair is like, okay, cool, but I'm pretty sure I could come up with that anyway. But I do want to thank everyone who's been sending very kind messages, everyone who's offered their home, their vehicles, their bicycles. Ms. Mickey's got a bike now, although I'm not letting her ride it yet, because it's too cold.

47:39 Because you can't have a Dutch girl in Amsterdam without a bike. People have been bringing by just all kinds of stuff. They've been very, very kind and made us feel extremely welcome, very much at home. And so that's fantastic. And also thank you to No Agenda Racing Team who opened up their website. They kick off our No Agenda Motorcycle Racing Team at noagendaracing.com. I think we can also get our other sports on there. I think we have, don't we have a demolition derby car? Yeah, we do. Somewhere, someone's got a demolition. I don't know if it's any good. Well, you know the problem with demolition derby cars is they eventually get wrecked. They get demolitionized. And thank you very much Martin JJ for the artwork on our previous episode 468. Everyone was really, really kind. Thank you all for bearing with our audio issues. I think we're much better today. So you know that we've really worked on it. I've tweeted a couple pictures so you can see.

48:42 that we leave no stone unturned when it comes to producing. And let's thank some people, we have Knights, we've got 12 Knights, we've got good support. I want to separate out our, we had a bunch of people out of the blue that came in with the twelve twelve twelve donation one thousand two hundred twelve dollars and twelve cents to commemorate most of them came in yesterday on twelve twelve twelve that makes sense i have a lot of money why did i swear put before we take our executive producers i want to thank this group specifically good idea and uh... because this is a very special day when we have this many large donations uh...

49:24 and it was amazing I didn't actually expect it to come barreling in like that and we did have a number before I mean even the Baron has a 12-12-12 but these all came in on the date including Zachary I think it's Zachary Giesemann who I think came in last five minutes before midnight. Ellensburg Washington and he's a silent knight say about it he just gave us 12-12-12 and Eon Field or Ian. Easley Hampshire or Easley 12 12 12 that John and Adam being lists been listening far too long with no donation That's the way to start off So, please accept the 12 12 12 knighthood donation appreciation for the best podcast in the universe looking forward to taking my place at the knowage and the roundtable just a General purpose karma for me keep up the great work. Yeah, well, we'd love to give you some general purpose karma, of course You've got kidding

50:24 Thank you so much. And then add heistermans in Cham. Cham. Cham. Cham. Cham. Cham. It is located in the lowlands. Cham. It's in the lowlands there somewhere. 12, 12, 12. And he's a 12, 12, 12, 12, black silent night. Okay. Wow. That's saying much and Eric Bodenstab and I tried to find a comment from him another silent night from Lauderdale, Minnesota He's already a night. So he's already a night. He's a double night. Hello and Stephen von Pell's mockers The Baron is back Aaron is back with a 12 12 12 and he came in I believe a day or two earlier and

51:13 On this day the 12th of the 12th of the 12th year in order to help Mickey and Adam survive on the harsh economic and audiophile realities of Europe at the edge of its own fiscal cliff that nobody's talking about and to aid both them and John in meeting their pending AMT obligations Believe me Wait a minute. I got a pretty When April comes around we are going to be begging. There's going to be no money coming in. Everyone's going to be broke. All of our listeners are without a doubt in that AMT bracket. There's no doubt about it. They're all going to get totally screwed. Maybe we start a non-profit so that people can... No, we're not doing that. Let me ask you a question. Hold on.

52:03 The donation to a non-profit. People need deductions, don't they? No, because that's the joke with an AMT. It doesn't make any difference. You lose all those deductions. Really? Yeah, you don't get deduction for home mortgage, you don't get the standard deductions for having a bunch of kids, you get nothing. There's nothing you can do. You're screwed. And by the way, I want to remind everybody who listens to this show, We're probably the only show that even brings this problem up. Nobody on the mainstream media has even mentioned it. I have not heard it once. So that when you get screwed, you'll be like, oh yeah, I remember. Adam and John told me about this. I already knew about this. It's not going to make you feel any better. But at least you'll be like, I knew about it. Well, there's one thing you can do, I think. You can at least plan for it.

52:53 You're not planning for this AMT possibility. How much money is that going to cost the average citizen in the United States? 10 grand. What? 10 grand as your total tax bill or in addition? In addition. What? Whatever you're paying, I expect to pay 10 grand more. No, no, no. I can't. Me too? Yeah, oh yeah. No. But I don't understand. just out of anywhere between two grand to grant you can probably if you're at the low end of this you might get a little bit too grand okay well so this is going to be a guy would say count on you better make ten grand on the side somewhere just to give to the government well there's a lot of hookers and less in less is resolved it could be resolved before the end of the year but I'm watching all the c-span watching all the stuff going on I'm seeing no evidence now

53:46 Now I don't see it either man. All I see is that they all want to screw us. They're like, hey, it's just who's going to get the blame. That's all that it's about. Yeah, it's all jockeying for position. Here's the way it's going to work. Even if they say, well, we'll go over the cliff, but we'll start fixing it on January 2nd. It's too late for the AMT when that happens. Really? That's it? You're just done? It's in stone after the first. There's no way. They have to fix this. There is no way the average citizen in America is going to come up with 10 extra grand. There's no way. If you're just a regular wage slave, which most of us are, and you're paying your salary taxes, you're just working the job, you're telling me that in addition, when you do your paperwork, it's going to be like, oh, you need to pay an additional 10 grand? I can't believe that.

54:34 Alright, let's continue. Really? Wow. I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah. Okay. Alright. Could be more. To the best podcast, but I would I would budget for ten grand fine said by hook or crook You've got to put some money aside. I mean you can pay it in October But you have to pay I think the bulk of it in April whether you file it completely or not But it's just not gonna be pretty. All right, listen, by the way, also here's there. Here's the worst part It's gonna put the economy into a tailspin. They won't be able to recover from it. I

55:11 uh... on a happier docket let's continue with the better to get any donations like this people like i think it was guys any money i'm keeping it for a mt broke as the quiet sh i'm broke but i don't know it likely will tells markers in europe so you can do it maybe this donation also help in some way to change your And she's some shape or form to get Miss Mickey some new reliable sexy wheels When the lovely couple make it back this is definitely not happening I appreciate it, but she's gonna be driving with that locked passenger door for a couple more months Just don't pick you can't be a carjacking from the passenger side actually it's not gonna happen Open up bitch open up open up I can't all right

55:57 Anyway, he's gonna continue on his valiant quest to achieve his 33rd knighthood unbelievable do the math ladies and gentlemen Yeah, this is a gentleman and gladly share any bodacious booty and beer that the Baroni has to offer we're gonna have to give him the Netherlands pretty soon You know, I think we should give him not just the Netherlands. We should give him the south of France Just throw that in the French on they don't donate they don't get one. I like I'd like the baronies to be contiguous Yeah, but we divide up the world it fits you I don't like hello like this disconnect what? France connects, but the south of France is not connected to Belgium no But France is connected to Belgium so we can give the north of give them a little we can give them the sub wa and Elsa's down to the south of France give that little like a make it like a J Idea why don't we just give them the right doesn't have to be a whole p. Why don't we just give them all of France? I mean, it's like no one else is stepping up to the plate. I

56:56 Oh yeah, you're right, no Frenchman's ever going to give us any. If we give him all of France, then you know we're always set down in the South. I think we give the guys, we give them the Netherlands, although I'd like to hang off on the Netherlands. No, hold off on the Netherlands. We'll give them France. France is better booty. So hereby, Baron Stephen van Pelsmacher is Baron of Belgium and Le France. It's set. It's done. Paul Barnhart in Elko, Nevada. Oh, nice area. At the middle of nowhere. 12-12-12. My daughter's a princess. I thought she should at least be married to a knight. Please bestow the knighthood to Jacob Scott Milligan. Which is, I guess, he's going to be married to. And he needs a two to the head, shut up slave, karma. Oh, I like this. This is very good. So his daughter

57:54 He's a princess so he's making Jacob, Scott Milligan a knight. That's... Yeah, see if that's correct on the list of knighthoods. Yeah, I will. Let me do the sequence. What do you want? Two to the head, shut up slave karma? Okay, we got that. That's on there, Jack. Yeah, I think we're good. maybe in san jose california so i'm so now in the regular sex ever did those are twelve twelve twelve nights will get to the regular producers in a few minutes and uh... unbelievable twelve twelve twelve specifically such a beautiful uh... display uh... thank you so much uh... i think i also think a lot of our nights just like that ten more days to go who cares and so i don't know what i'd be over and it's and that was that we have really really appreciate this so uh...

58:47 Thank them and we'll get to the regular producers and then the regular donors shortly. In the meantime... Well, hold on, let me get a little sequence here. First we got... To Borac.org slash NDA Gotta remind everybody what they can do and of course you can always go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Citizen. Shut up! Slave! Hey, shut up, slave!

59:25 Shut up, shut up, shut up. Slave. I got a... I have a cute little clip here we can play. Okay. That, uh... But you have to not do any Googling. Okay, I promise. Afterwards I'm gonna ask you what you think this was all about. Okay. So I'm watching C-SPAN so you don't have to. You might as well play the jingle. I'd love to. It's what we do so you don't have to. Oh, he shit his pants. C-SPAN. Anyway. So I'm listening to She- the shit is in, I'm listening to She-Span. She-Span. The shit is in She-Span.

1:00:08 And it's one of these, it's like, okay, maybe I'll get something decent out of this. It's one of those situations where the Senate is, they're in session but there's nobody there and they're giving their spiels about, you know, this post office should be dedicated to this guy. And so there's a... You've been doing a lot of this recently. You've been doing like the really early morning sessions. on she's a really good but i think that you know session i believe but i'm watching this and go why i said this gotta be something i need some clips is terrible as a way i wasn't getting what i was again in the room rights but i saw it as i just watched this go out of the blue and is a guy from oregon go moaning and groaning about grass fires now they're ruining the world the country in the government's doing nothing about it going on and on

1:00:57 All of a sudden the chairperson or the president who's ever run in the Senate at the time, a woman, says, we have to interrupt the speaker, not the speaker, but the majority leader has got to say something. He drops in in the middle of the, just out of the blue. And you know that thing we play with Carl Levin and the Laurel and Hardy bit and all the rest of it, they just throw a bunch of crap out there to have it approved and then they get out of there? Yeah, out of the blue with the whole group, nobody there. He interrupts this guy to blow through some bullshit and then he turns the floor back over to him. I recorded it thinking it was peculiar and it was only after I looked up

1:01:39 what it was all about that I think I thought it was just a jam it really is if it we had a little more life to it be a clip of the day but this is just listen to this thing I don't know which one to play now because this would be the uh... let me see if I can find it uh... up uh... how your government works late night slippage alright let's roll it out and I will not google thousand acres let's translate that that's nine hundred square miles of land burned this summer The Miller Homestead fire burned 160,000 acres or 250 square miles. The majority leaders recognize... Mayor, could I ask my friend to yield for unanimous consent request and he would have the floor as soon as I finish. Absolutely. Sorry to do that. Without objection so ordered. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate receives the papers with respect to HR 4310, the Senate's passage of HR 4310 as amended be vitiated

1:02:36 Without objection. And further, I ask unanimous consent that the adoption of the Senate amendment be initiated and that the amendment, the text of S. 3425 as amended by the Senate be modified with the changes that are at the desk. That no other amendments be in order and the Senate proceed to vote in relation to the amendment as modified. That if the substitute amendment as modified is agreed to, H.R. 4310 as amended be read a third time and passed finally. that the previous request with respect to the Senate's request for conference, including the appointment of conference be agreed to with all above occurring with no intervening action or debate. Without objection, so ordered. I object! I object! I just object! How come no one ever does that? I object! Nobody there! I gotta Google this, I don't know what the guy's talking about, but it sounds like he's pulling a fast one, I object! Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that we be in a period of morning business until 5 p.m. today. Without objection, so ordered. I object!

1:03:30 Hey, let's let it play. Mr. President, of course, senators, I'm sorry, I should have done that myself. Senators be allowed to speak for ten minutes each. Without objection. I express my appreciation, my friend, the senator from Oregon. Senator from Oregon. Thank you, Madam President. All right, what was all that? I mean, it was so here's what I heard. Harry Reid, who comes in and he's like, there's some deadline. He's got to do something because if he doesn't do this quick, Something's gonna expire and we're not gonna get a white anyway could have waited still I mean could have done in the floor. I mean you say I don't know I don't know. I mean this could be Yeah, I'm very ready. I'm you have piqued my interest national defense authorization act. No, you're kidding me That's what this is for they said that's what he was having it snuck in and having it approved without objection right there that one that's what that was and

1:04:30 Look up HR 4310. Oh my god. National Defense Authorization Act. Alright Harry! HR 4... wait a minute. HR what was it? 4-0? 4310. 43... are you kidding me? Are you effing kidding me? Let's see. Oh my god, 2013 National Events Authorization Act. So did that thing just get approved with unanimous consent? Was that without a vote? What was that? I'm not absolutely sure what the point of it was, but it was slipping something by the public. Let's face it. That was just... I mean he comes rushing in,

1:05:09 He blows through this national defense never mentions the name of the bill of course no just blah blah blah blah blah This is approved approved approved and he set up the I guess the structure for the final approval And it was without objection so now everybody has to do what what's in this? This is just some scam. It's a scam you think you had to do it right in the middle some other guys talk oh my god hold on a second I mean, do you mind if we just listen to a little bit of that again? Because I just want to hear what the hell was he saying? So now we know what it's about now. We have some context Let's translate that that's 900 let's pull this apart John square miles of land burned this summer. All right, move on Miller homestead fire burned a hundred and sixty thousand acres or

1:05:57 250 square miles. The majority leaders recognize... Could I ask my friend to yield for unanimous consent request and he would have the floor as soon as I finish. Okay, unanimous consent request. Absolutely. Sorry to do that. Without objection so ordered. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate receives the papers with respect to HR 4310, the Senate's passage of HR 4310 as amended be vitiated. What is it something's being amended to 4310 for the passage as Namesh- Why didn't the- This a-hole needs to speak English! Without objections. And further asking them's consent that the adoption of the Senate amendment be initiated and that the amendment the text of S 3425 as amended by the Senate be modified with the changes that are at the desk. S 3425 did you check that one out? I think it's their version.

1:06:47 Is there a version of the NDAA? Oh my god. You know what the first thing is that this is all about? If anyone on a podcast talks about this crap, they need to be disappeared. I think that's probably what the amendment was. if you have an amendment, if two a-holes on a podcast are letting everyone know that we're sneaking this stuff in, then we're going to... Sneaking in the National Defense Authorization Act. If anyone does that, then we're going to, you know, we're going to like disappear them. Anyway, I just had a second... It was funny because I had this sense that something's not right. Can I just tell you something?

1:07:37 In a weird way, I think you deserve this. I really do. That's really quite an amazing job you've done there. Let me just clap. You're welcome. I'm very impressed. I'm very impressed. I impressed myself with that one because I pulled the clip. Did you run around naked? I was suspicious and looked it up later. And I said, oh, home run. Did you run around naked in your underwear like, oh, I can't believe I got this. Come on, tell me you did. Tell me you did I know you did. I mean, I thought I love these guys I thought I had a funny clip from from she span but it's nothing compared to your I got Pelosi being an idiot Is this the one where she talks about Kwanzaa? Yeah, do you have that one too? I love this one. This is very funny Why are we just having all the subterfuge and this that and the other thing? Why okay first of all

1:08:33 The word subterfuge, very very strong word which I think would need to be reintegrated into the American vocabulary. Subterfuge, John, can you explain the definition of subterfuge? I think it refers to a style of misleading. I think it's basically what Congress is all about isn't it? Is it all about misleading the other side in some way shape or form? Lying exactly. And in the case of Congress that means misleading the public. That's the other side. And can I just say when people, I've heard some people do this and I some people I don't call on it

1:09:13 But in general when people say this, that and the other thing, you need to be whooped upside the head. Who says... Who says this? This, that and the other thing. It's like a show... It's like a show title almost. It's like No Agenda episode 469-er. This, that and the other thing. No actually it's a twit episode. There you go. Why are we just having all this subterfuge and this, that and the other thing? Why are we being told, make a reservation for Christmas Eve and one on the day after Christmas to come back? Is there not an appreciation for the Jewish holidays, the Christmas holidays, Kwanzaa, all the other things that families do together around bonding, rituals important to the strength of our society?

1:10:09 Do we not care about that? Well, the American people do and they want to shop for it. This is what... The war on Christmas! They want to shop for it! That's right Nancy, we want to shop for Kwanzaa. I've always wanted to shop for Kwanzaa. By the way, these other things that she's talking about are not federal holidays, so that's what this point's about. I don't know what she's doing. She's an idiot. Thank you. She's a complete idiot. And I don't mind that she's 70. I just want to go on record. I'm not an ageist like you. I have no problem with her being 70 or 80. I know lots of people. My uncle is 84, one of the smartest guys alive.

1:10:48 and he still say you say what you may call it this that the other no he did he did but you imagine sitting there when I was a kid that the other day we have to use rocks when we use our imagination we used to go spy the Koreans we use this that the other thing you know one of those things they can't talk about because we shop for Kwanzaa now Uncle Don you know what Uncle Don says he says you know we bombed North Korea And then you look at him and go like, he actually did that. Yeah. Oh, that's impressive. It's pretty cool. He says, yeah, we couldn't make probably get even better stories from Bobby up the road. Well, Bob, I'm not up the road from Bobby right now, am I? And it's not just but I bet you there's some people in the in the hall in there that are. So I heard something. I heard something about Bobby. Do you want to know what I heard about Bobby? Yeah. Gay.

1:11:47 Oh, there's the show. Yeah, apparently he is he is like me. I think we've said enough. I'm not making this up. I'm not talking to you anymore. But since you're on that. Hello. Where's the Mr. Curry clip? I just played it. I can't keep playing it. I don't have a Dutch one. So uh... Oh man. Gotta get a Dutch one. Yeah. Hey! Aufmachen! So I got another one here if you want to hear something, just a little offbeat clip. Anything you got that's funny, man, I'll take it. Whatever you got. And there's nothing funnier than pedophilia. Pedobearer. Pedobearer is always good. Always good. So I'm watching this new show which is called, I'm watching it. You watch it because of the following. I clip out the BBC show on the local PBS station

1:12:49 And then it always carries over a couple minutes into this piece of crap kids show called Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, which apparently is done by the Rogers guy, Fred Rogers. Oh, Mr. Rogers? For his old team. Yeah, because he's dead. Yeah, yeah, no, his old team, the Fred Rogers production company, whatever. But anyway, so I'm watching this. It's a horrible show. It's a cartoon about this little tiger that's just an idiot. I'm watching this clip, I said this sounds like the, if you just listen to this clip out of, just out of context, just listen to it, and it's really not even that out of context, if this is, tell me this isn't the most pedophilia kind of pedo bear exchange that you've ever heard on a show aimed at three year olds. Vroom! Let's play! You say vroom too! Vroom! Vroom!

1:13:43 Vroom! Excuse me, Tiger-tastic car coming through. Beep beep! Hold it right there, Tiger Car. You have to pay the toll. The toll? Yes, Tiger Car, you have to pay... three kisses before I let you in. Okay. One, two, three. Oh, thank you. Grrr! You know what? What? It's time to meet your friends at the park. Yes! Our friends are bringing cars to the park today. I'm going to bring my Tiger-tastic car! And I'm gonna bring my Tiger-tastic camera to take some Tiger-tastic pictures of all of you. Oh, God.

1:14:39 and you're watching the show how again how exactly happened it shows up at the end of the bbc and i'm always saying you know i'll betcha i would like to see it i say you know a bitch in one of these days i'm gonna get a clip out of this piece of crap it was the last thing i do well it is kind of uh... it's kind of uh... topical because the uh... the new army manual uh... which according to the wall street journal i guess they've actually seen it There's a couple things, you know, we have this new, you know, this new Marxist culturalism, you know, all this political correctness. Did you say Marxist culturalism? I think that's what I said. Cultural Marxism is what I meant to say, but it's late here, okay? It's like... I was thinking you were just mispronouncing multi-culti. Yeah, kind of, something like that. No, it's cultural Marxism, that's what I meant to say. Political correctness.

1:15:37 So there's a number of taboo conversation topics soldiers should avoid at all time, including quote, making derogatory comments about the Taliban, advocating women's rights, any criticism of pedophilia, and directing criticism towards Afghans, mentioning homosexuality and homosexual conduct or anything related to Islam. But I found it interesting that criticism of pedophilia is in there. So you're not allowed to... This isn't a hoax? It's in the Wall Street Journal so I mean... I don't know. I don't think it would be a hoax. I mean, someone hoaxed him good. What are you supposed to do? Just shut up? Well, yeah, I guess.

1:16:24 I guess. Read that list again, it fascinates me. So the new manual, 75 pages, suggests Western ignorance, this is mainly Afghan culture. uh... so uh... here it is so that's where they have this huge pedophilia uh... thing going on and that he has a common yet for the uh... elders was a little bit of a whole documentary on the boys of afghanistan i think i couldn't watch it and just like home and up does that mean anyway so that i hear that the taboo conversation topics again soldiers should avoid uh... quote making derogatory comments about the taliban yes he can say hey those guys suck

1:17:05 Advocating women's rights. Hey, these girls should be able to kill the Taliban. Criticism of pedophilia. directing any criticism towards Afghans, mentioning homosexuality and homosexual conduct or anything related to Islam. So pretty much don't play this show. Do not play the No Agenda show in Afghanistan. Do not download it, do not play it, do not bring it anywhere near nothing. It's not a good idea at all. And then I have this little pedo bearer clip from Washington and parents are fiercely defending a former children's theater employee charged with 14 counts of possession of child pornography now listen to this very carefully so these are show business parents as far as I can tell and they are defending a

1:17:55 The guy who has been indicted on 14 counts of possessing child pornography. Now I have not investigated this case, so I don't know if it's bogative, what the deal is, but you know, so apparently he had 14 counts of possession of child pornography. And parents are fiercely defending a former children's theater employee charged with 14 counts of possession of child pornography. Troy Fisher pleaded not guilty today in court. A judge allowed him to be released but said he could not have contact with children or use a computer. Fisher refused to comment outside court but several supporters were quick to insist his innocence.

1:18:33 There are children on Broadway. My daughter sings full time with the Portland Opera Company because of that man. He has done so much and he's being mistreated. He teaches those children values. He has saved kids from drugs. He has saved kids from dropping out of school. he is a hero. Now what do you think? Do you think that these are like honey boo boo parents and they're just you know, oh my child is singing on Broadway because of this man that it doesn't matter? What do you think? Well no, you know you get a sense of these guys who are real pedophiles I mean like those coaches at Penn State and when you see the guy and everything the way he acts and

1:19:16 I think there's a sense of it and you have to remember that in today's if you want to get somebody in today's world a naked baby on a bare skin rug nowadays is considered pedophilia or child porn. I mean anything is child porn. A girl on the beach in a bikini is child porn. Right. You know if it's titillating which is like it would be titillating to somebody who is nuts. Right. I don't know. I just thought it was an interesting report. That is weird. Can we take a little break here and do our executive producers? Yes, I would love to do that. Get them out of the way so we can... Well, we don't want to get them out of the way, we want to highlight them. Oh, we want to get them out of the way. I'm sorry I said that. We want to put them in the spotlight. Well, we got definitely one to put in the spotlight for sure.

1:20:07 JD who's going to be a knight in San Jose came in with $748.48 supporting the best podcast in the universe. This is rounding out his 12-12-12 knighthood. We could have mentioned him in the earlier segment. Please credit this donation as from SirJDNSJ. Oh yeah, JDNSJ, you got it, of course. uh... he was in in the morning a little girl yay karma for his family and especially for uh... their friend karen recovering from cancer who i have uh... i have a whole bunch of you need to tell i have a f cancer clips i have i have new f cancer clips okay well as cool off and i need to throw in the the penny though apparently okay got the penny though he's even he's even okay here are the other way i'm sorry i'm sorry what did you say

1:20:58 It would have been a 12-12-11 and that's wouldn't have been... Yeah, no, we threw in the penny. We're all good. Here comes a sequence. In the morning... You've got karma. I kinda like these. Yeah, nice. Cool. Uh, Sir Thomas Poolyard in Manama. I think it's... Isn't it Manamana? Manamana. Manamana. Manamana. Squirrel! 46969, now I was looking, which is nice because this is show 469. Let me see if I can find him here. Wow, wow, wow, wow. So we got a 469 club. We got a couple of 469ers. This is fantastic. The love is deep, the river is wide. Did you leave me?

1:22:00 No, I just had to get his email up. I thought I sent it to JC, but I probably didn't. And here's his comment. Hey Bert, hey Ernie. But more seriously, Jackie Mason here. Small donation to help out with the winter vacation after getting the PayPal sorted. Maybe you can buy a little comfort. I suspected 121212 donations will be rolling in this week. By the way, he was right. So I won't ask for much in the way of jingles. Just karma for the world, a Merry Christmas slave, a classic like Alice's Restaurant on Thanksgiving. Now waiting for the pipelines to roll past my house in northern Bulgaria. Oh, right. Yeah, I remember this one.

1:22:44 I was on a flight a few days ago and as we were taxing someone's cell phone started beeping. I soon realized it was Morse code for SMS. I had a great smile on my face and thought of no agenda. Cheers mate 73s on the 88s. Merry Christmas slave. You've got karma. Nice. Also, uh, our, our buddy, uh, Dwayne Melanson. Sir Dwayne. Sir Dwayne in I guard Oregon. I like to pronounce Tiggered. I've been taking the slow and gentle approach to finding new listeners. A good way, by the way, if you're going to try to get us new listeners, preach to the converted. A good way to ease into the topic is to talk about the national debt, the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff.

1:23:34 Talk about the tax, the alternative minimum tax. It only works if you're in America. We don't have that everywhere in Gitmo Nation. Well, he's in Oregon. I find that I can tell if people will be susceptible to the No Agenda Show formula within five minutes. I think you can. Adam can do it in less than two. It really works. Keep up the great work and please give me a shot of In the Morning, yay! And I still want to be named Baron of Oregon. How about it? I think we need to have a meeting about that one. We have to have a meeting. We have a meeting. We have to look at it. We have to have a meeting. We have a meeting. We have to have a meeting. We have to have a meeting. Thank you so much. You're on the top of the list for Baron of Oregon. If somebody disputes it, we'll put you in the list, but if somebody disputes it, then we have to deal with that. That's a good point. Meanwhile, Baron von Pelsmacher, who now owns France,

1:24:29 I also added a 469 to become members of the 469 club. Oh my god. What do we have to give away? We have to give him like Monaco? We just gave him France. I think we're good. For a year or two. I could not resist a special donation for 469. Get it? Four sixty nine. 69! 69, dude! Ah, it's a special swazle-nuff. Very good. Very good. I like that. It helps support the best podcasting universe and contribute to the cost of making M's for stay and get monation low lands Some swazzle enough karma little girl. Yay, please it works Fact why because it does and the final it says finally It says rock on dudes. I said he said it tells it to rock on Karma

1:25:27 uh... three forty one sixteen we have another executive producer ice arts and tom berg doyton it's peace btc peace on top of the richland peace concerted if you drop that extra penny and in my calculations are right we didn't uh... this donation will complete my knighthood yay do need some uh... karma for an upcoming shoulder operation on friday in a late birthday shot up for my son max I turn 23 on the 7th. As it will be my right shoulder and I'm right-handed, it might take some time for me to be able to hit people in the mouth. By the way, left hook is still one of your best punches. Not a problem. Right. But that's not in the mouth usually. It could be.

1:26:09 and he lifted up uses it's usually to deliver by that time hopefully we'll be a proud owner of the Noah's Underwing. What are you a sucker puncher? You're like punching people in the liver? No, that's the Mexican liver shot. That's one of the best punches in boxing. Alright, I'm gonna drop that penny again and here's some karma for your shoulder. Thank you so much. You've got karma. And you will indeed be knighted. Tease. You're on deck. And in the mail we got a nice check from Dame, Black Dame Janice Kang. but since some homecoming karma to add a mickey when you finally get back and some mutton and meat to the masses and she's not our last executive producer with three hundred thirty three dollars and thirty three cents wow and then we have associates

1:26:55 Yeah, we do have a few associate producers Darcy Murray a new contributor from Cheltenham, Victoria Longtime fan and listener now proud to be a no agenda donor I need a de-douching call out sergeant Ian billing as a douchebag Ian yeah Ian yeah Ian I am Ian. I'll never get this i don't know why i'm stuck with that pronunciation it's okay yeah in the course of justice and fabricating evidence to do they had a little girl yay happy end of the world and merry christmas to the best podcasting universe darcy soprano from cheltenham australia You've got karma. And a de-douching. You've been de-douched. There you go. Everything all taken care of. Dmitri Fedoseev, Fedosiev, perhaps, Fedosiev, in London. Adams and Mickey's feet warm on the snowy European ground. I'm voting for a meetup in London. Hmm.

1:28:03 We have actually discussed a potential end of the world meetup on the 21st here in Amsterdam and I think maybe people like Dimitri and other people from London would want to come over here because let's face it if the world's gonna end you might as well do it here. You know what I'm saying? Right. You've got Carmen. What we need though is we need someone like organize it. You know so if we want to do an end of the world meet up on the 21st which I think is a Friday. We can all you know get we can all get dead just before the weekend perfect. So we'd be up for it. Come out here. Yeah we'd be up for it. Pop.

1:28:46 Papa Guido in Chicago, 2-12-12. Credit me as Sir Papa Guido, now or will be. This should bring my running toll to 12-12-12 for those boners out there. Karma works! Wow! Sold the house in two months and moved in to a new one in two days. I give no agenda karma at least 33% credit. Wow. Happy holidays. Jen sent me with a Dvorak, obey and a little girl yay. This is like the new one. You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. And that rhymes! You've got karma. It's kind of funny when you do it because you know when you say you will obey or ever you know people you know even little children are going pfff yeah right. Sir Thomas in Ober-dice-bach. Ober-dice-bach. Ober-dice-bach, Switzerland, Swiss.

1:29:38 But he says he's in Tokyo with Proko Harum. Yes, they're still touring. Wow! Great! How come they weren't at the concert? They missed all their buddies. They probably weren't going to give him the big dough. Yumi Matsutoya is the other guy. I don't know who's Yumi Matsutoya, but I guess there's a big shot there. In 20 days, I have some time in my life, I'll bet, I believe it's because of your karma you sent me last time if you bump into somebody here in Japan they say sorry and they bow to each other. It's a great country with very nice people since everything you was paid and I only had to pay for my sake drinking I'm sending you some loving money to help out Adam and Mickey in cold Holland. If you want to come to Switzerland I could organize a very nice hotel room in the Hotel Renaissance in Zurich. Wow. You would be very welcome all the best from Tokyo and love Sir Thomas I forgot to mention my ring size and I'll send it on to the rings at noagendanation.com which is where you should send this. Wow. And he came in with 212. Hey Mickey would you want to go to the Hotel Renaissance in Zurich?

1:30:42 She's like, sure, sure. You know, we might be able to hook you up with Yumi Matsuyoda. Finally our last associate exhort, not our last but another, we got three more. Scott William, Ann Arbor, Michigan, 20907. Sorry for the last minute donation. Scott William from the Great Lakes State, home of the ever receding coastlines. That can't be. We got global warming going on. Why Dash? Because check out 2006 Great Lakes Compact, a bonanza, something we have to look into. I'd like to put 20907 to order tonight who had three swazzles on those. One swazzle goes to my lady Alicia May, a donor who would like to

1:31:26 like a parliament to the head karma for the other two swallows may I please get a much deserved deducing for both me and my friend Colin who I hit in the mouth almost two years ago and remains a self self-loathing boner We've been propagating the formula and our time is due. The truth of the matter is Noah Jenner is the best podcast in the universe. So I guess he needs something. I can't figure it out. Well, he needs a parliament to do the head-douching and... Well, we'll do all of that. Oops, I'm sorry. That was my mistake. You've been de-douched. Shut up!

1:32:08 I just put it all in. I just put it all in. I'm just all in on this one. Hello? Oh, I think I lost him. Hello? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hang on one second. I gotta look at... When you're not saying anything, it's so quiet. I don't know if I've lost you. I know, the thing works great. If you fell off the fiscal cliff. Okay, so we have Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland for $200. Then we have Mike Elgin who we douchebagged And a very rare show douchebag. We don't do that. What? Oh, oh, oh, yeah, but he has a whole note. Where's the note? I got the note. I got some of the note. But you have his note, because I have a note. He says he was outed. I got the note. I got the... It's on... It's on... Read the note. It's on Google+. Hold on a second. I can't believe you... Floating around in Africa. He's going to need some heavy-duty karma. Google+. Hold on.

1:33:15 I don't use this thing and apparently there's we have like a whole page on Google Plus that is just you and me and I'm an operator or a mod or something so I can kick people off. What? Yeah, I'm telling you I'm on Google Plus I can do like I can I'm a Nazi. Okay, I got it. I got it. Before last week's episode of TWIT, John C. Dvorak and I were shooting the breeze, and I happened to mention that I enjoy the podcast he does with Plus Adam Curry called No Agenda.

1:33:54 He expressed, as he tends to, skepticism and I told him that no, I listen to every episode, which is true. I absolutely love the show. I think about 60% of their political predictions, beliefs and assumptions are probably wrong. But if 40% are right, then it's the most interesting and enlightening program ever. They revel in what they call media assassination. They consistently expose the agenda behind the... bullshit we all hear in the mainstream media every day and they do it in a hilarious and extremely entertaining way. This is a very good note.

1:34:35 When Dvorak mentioned my show Fandom on the most recent No Agenda show, Curry suggested that I was a douchebag. Here I go again! Which in No Agenda parlance means a listener who doesn't donate to the show. Let me just point out that this is something the listeners have come up with and it's not like... I don't think he's... I think he's one of the more entertaining... It wasn't our idea. Back up a second. The No Agenda show was based on the idea that they're able to speak freely without being compromised by various powers that be because they accept no advertising. The entire show was funded by listeners. Curry was right! I was a non-contributing douchebag!

1:35:17 Though I sprayed my coffee when I heard it listening to the show. This is always funny when that happens. That's always a good visual. Anyway, I made my first donation this morning and encourage all you other douchebags out there to do the same. If you want to hear the segment I'm talking about, listen to the show here. You should listen to the whole show though, but I get out at around 125. uh... okay he did send a specific note for this donation which i do have to go okay good i just want to read a couple of the comments on this uh... post uh... but go ahead with this this what's a specific donation go ahead the comments is usually the counselors a couple of our vision about you that's what we're in a good hi john and i don't think you for your douchebag intervention the first step to head to admitting you have a problem

1:36:03 I really do listen to every single episode. I've donated $200 and hope to live with a clear conscience for a while. Give me two to the head. Gladly. That's all he wanted? Yeah, give him a karma too. Yeah, of course I'm gonna give him a karma. Are you kidding me? You've got karma. No, I love that. I just want to read a couple of the comments. This is why I'm not on Google+. I never liked Curry. And Dvorak is the Bill O'Reilly of the tech world. Curry fancies himself a rock star and some sort of some sort and his only interest is how he looks in the mirror and when he can get his next appointment with his hairdresser. How I mean, I can't believe that people actually write this stuff. How lame is that?

1:36:54 James you should have seen I was watching I was watching I think it was a letterman or one of these night like that show just and and What's is the actor who was with Ben Affleck's buddy? What's his name plays the born guy? Ben Affleck and Matt Dillon, but Matt Matt something or Matt Damon Matt Damon Matt Damon Yeah, I know I can't even remember these guys, but I divorce myself in the popular culture. Yeah me too So anyway, so Matt Damon comes on and he says every day He reads three comments like that and he brought some out some just some casual Twitter or Facebook comments They were really funny. Yeah, no, it's the same thing. Yeah, you can't take it seriously, it's okay, but I just

1:37:41 The thing is I believe that these social networks that they have a culture and I think the culture of Google Plus is in general arrogant Tech fanboys who are you know, who a little secret they like to pee in the sink and So, I'll read another one. Who doesn't like to pee in the sink? This is not good. We do not... Hey, maybe you can do that with your wife, but I can't do it with mine. Is that the same... Honest, it's not on the dishes. Is that the same Adam Big Hair MTV VJ Curry from the era of Mr. T, Gary Coleman, Milli Vanilli and Flo B?

1:38:24 How nasty is it? So Matt Damon reads three of these a day, is that what he's saying? Yeah, he says it helps him keep him humble. So check this out. Try not to take it too seriously. It's all just the next iteration of the radio shock jock. Just like Limbaugh, just like O'Reilly. Really? That's insulting. That's really insulting. Let's see, there's another good one here. Yeah, we're just like that. That's exactly what we're like. I can't wait for Nina Blackwood's contributions on flashing geranium lasers. Very funny. Anyway, the conspiracy theories on this show are just too much for me. I can't listen. I had to stop. We don't have any conspiracy theories on this show. No, because the guy's not... We deconstruct the news, dude. It's because the guy... Dude?

1:39:20 It's because the guy knew that other guy because the guy's not listening. That's why that's why he doesn't know what he's talking about I had to stop listening to no agenda the stuff they were bringing up was making me depressed. Well, this is true I Like right not to do that. I'd like to be well informed, but I'm taking a break from politics for a while I'm doing the whole ignorance is bliss thing for a bit. Good luck with that doesn't work. No curry is suffering from has been itis What is that? Why don't they ever say something ugly about you? They do. In other forums. Yeah, intelligent people. I get a bunch of idiots.

1:40:02 I mean, you're like the lightning rod. When it's around me, that's why you don't hear anything. When you're involved, if there's something nasty to be said, they'll say it about you. You're a lightning rod. How about, is Downtown Julie Brown on the show? Oh, Matt Jones, you're very funny. Adam Curry is a total douchebag and Dvorak just dropped 10 points of IQ by doing anything with him. Ten points! Ten whole points! Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man. That's very funny. Anyway, thank you very much Mike for your contribution and a lovely post on Google+. So he's in, is he in South Africa or? He has, no he was in Kenya the last time. But what he's done is he still writes, he still does what he does. He has a newsletter, he's got some online stuff. He used to be one of the big shot editors in PC World.

1:41:04 some big publications a big shot and he uh he made a lot of money i guess and he's him and his wife they raised their kids and he said they wanted to do this couple years ago until she got some high paying job right whatever they can she quit they both quit and they said we're gonna just go all over the place ad-libbing so we're gonna hit the road they sold their house is all other possessions they decided to hit the road and then bouncing around and now at the last time I heard there in Africa then they're gonna go to Australia they're gonna go to that some islands and they're gonna float around here and there you know hopefully they get back alive and probably that's what a great idea and they have no kids I presume what they take the kids so they have their if they whatever kids they have a real you know out of the house and

1:41:47 that they put the kids in storage in one of those lockers as kids are in storage i think they did put some stuff in storage but whatever the case is just hit the road and they got a good budget and they have a lot of friends and so they i guess they uh... they're staying in somebody's house in some compound excellent excellent very good Well, I have a couple questions for you John C. Duvarak. Before you do that, I want to mention to people, they can go to noagenda.nation.com, duvarak.org, and channelduvarak.com, and help us because we do have another show coming up, 470, not quite as Rhythmic as four six nine niner, but we're coming up on Sunday. We do need continued support We're just a one big day is great We got a couple more people to thank and by the way this day makes up for you know a really miserable August and September Yeah, okay Can you just turn down the speakers just a hair because it's coming through a little bit louder than normal for some reason I'm sure you can do that for me right you still there. Oh

1:42:51 Yeah, I'm still, I know it gets quiet, but you're paranoid. I am! I don't know if I lost you or what. So I got a question here because I've been researching, the minute this news came out I've been all over it, been trying to figure this out. So the president of our United States, of Gitmo Nation, along with our Secretary of State, Hillary Lucifer Clinton, have now approved and recognized the Syrian Opposition Coalition as the true interlocutors

1:43:34 ie the people they will speak with in syria so uh... basher al-assad that he's off the table is this these new guys and uh... and they are the ones in fact that they've they've been invited to washington united states has taken an important step forward we now recognize the syrian opposition council and this is a secretary to deputy secretary of state burns isn't this the exact same playbook Well, in Libya, where they put in some bogus operation? Well, yeah, but I have a question because we've been recognizing people for a while now, and this is the Syrian Oppositional Council. We recognize the Syrian Opposition Council as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people.

1:44:19 We have extended an invitation to Moaz Al Khatib and the coalition leadership to visit Washington at their earliest opportunity. Hey, you know, whenever you're not like shooting bazookas or whatever, come visit us at your earliest convenience. We've been intensively engaged with Special Envoy Brahimi, our Russian counterparts and other partners to assist him in his efforts to bring about a real political transition. as outlined in the Geneva communique. The step that we took with regard to designation of the al-Nusra Front raises an alarm about a very different kind of future for Syria, about the direction that a group, in this case al-Nusra, would try to take Syria, to impose its will and to try to threaten the social fabric of Syria.

1:45:10 So a couple of very interesting things have happened here. So one is we have now recognized the Syrian Opposition Council Which is not the same and let me go down the list here, which is not the same as the Free Syrian Army It is not the same as the Syrian National Council the Supreme Military Council So SNC we've already had the interim administration We've had the National Coordination Committee, we've had all these different dudes and the most recent one was the FSA. You remember on the news, it was like, oh, the Free Syrian Army, Free Syrian Army. And this is not the National Council, this is the Syrian Opposition Council who do not have a webpage.

1:45:53 They do not have a Wikipedia entry. And here's the crazy thing. I've been trying to Google this guy who was just invited, Mawaz Al-Khatib, Mawaz, and I've never seen this. I tried it on Google, I tried it on Yahoo, and I tried it on Bing. And I want you to try this. Try and Google this guy's name. It's like they've blocked his name. It's like it freezes. This is the weirdest thing. You ready? I'll spell it for you. This has been driving me... It's M-O-A-Z-A-L-K-A-H-A-T-I-B. Yeah, and then when I Google it, Google doesn't return anything and then Chrome sits there... I got pages of stuff.

1:46:33 I'm telling you, I put this into Google and the page eventually, Chrome has to kill the page. And the same with... hit one of those links. Okay. Alright. Well, okay, I will. I got... Which one do you want? I got a ton of them. Anyway... You want his Wikipedia article? Yeah, give me his wiki. Because I couldn't get it. It will not resolve for me. Yep, there it is. Crazy. So no, you're maybe missing the point here. you may be it may not be resolving there for a reason in europe okay it's a very good i don't know what to Yeah, this looks to me like some sort of a this doesn't look right What you're describing does not sound right and the only district between you and me is I'm in the United States the land of the free Just want to point that out Nation lowlands, which is a bunch of slaves. Well, I Unfortunately, I can't try it on all after the show. We'll have to try it on on a proxy see if it's not my machine and

1:47:33 Well anyway, so they don't have a wiki page. This guy may have a wiki page but they don't have a wiki page. But I did find information on the official spokesman of the Syrian Opposition Council. His name is Yasser Tabara and he has a wiki page. Yasser Tabara, you know where he's from? No. Chicago. uh... okay now you're talking yasser to borrow may live half a world away from syria where he grew up but as the uprising that continues the chicago lawyer has mounted a one-man legal and diplomatic assault against the syrian regime we have recognized the syrian opposition council including a lawyer from chicago hey give me a break okay give me an f in break this is crazy

1:48:25 So yeah, not only is this just like the Libya playbook, it is the Libya playbook, and we've rolled a little bit of Iraq in there. Assad now firing Scud missiles. Oh wow. We had to bring that one up. Nothing like a Scud missile to wake you up. And so now these are the guys that we're going to deal with, but no matter what you say, we're not going to be talking to these al-Nashira guys. Who of course, this is going to be a real problem. So we've called them out as FTOs or Foreign Terrorist Organization.

1:49:09 And this is going to be, you know, this is all in one breath. So I think we're trying to split up the way I see it. We're trying to split this leader from the al-Nusra Front and we've invited him at his earliest convenience. It's insane. This is literally insane. And they've just made up this new group. the Syrian Opposition Council. You can't tell me who they are except for the front guy, Muaz al-Khatib, and the lawyer, Yasser Tabara. Chicago. Chicago lawyer. Hey, I got Yasser there in Chicago, Chi-town, you gotta take care of it for us. He just talked to the boys in Chicago, we'll make it all happen. And this is, to me, this is news gold.

1:50:01 Yeah, I mean, if I were running... Well, that means the news media must be jumping all over it. Right, I mean, I can just see them in front... I would be lying in front of Yasser Tabara's office building, giving an interview. Hey man, your guy's being invited to DC, is he gonna come? And the only... Have you found any pictures of Mawaz Al-Khatib? Yeah, the shit loads. Yeah, and he's got a picture of him with a bazooka on his shoulder, right? I don't have... Oh, let me look. That's pretty much the only one I've seen. No, no the main picture of him is he's got this he's just lecturing somebody. He's got a wearing a nice suit. Oh really? Lecturing. There's a million. I don't have the bazooka picture. I got thousands of pictures though. Interesting. You're getting screwed over there. Chat room if anyone is in the lowlands or in just in Europe let me know what's happening with you Google this guy. Mawaz Al-Khatib.

1:51:02 AL... Oh, there's... Oh, I see what you're talking about. There's one picture way down where he's got a beard, he's a dark... This is an old picture because he's gray-bearded now. Like an old picture of him holding a bazooka like a douchebag. Yeah, well, he's the douchebag that we're trusting now. Yeah, this whole thing just doesn't feel right. And it was, you know... In fact, the actual title Hold on a second. I wonder what they're doing to you that you can't get this stuff on your web browser. Yeah, I don't know either. The actual title is Syrian National Coalition for Revolutionary and Opposition Forces. You know, these people need the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group. This is not a great name.

1:51:54 It might look good in Arabic. And I love, I just, I'm sure you've seen this, I just absolutely adore the Syrian homemade tank. You saw this one? No. Oh come on. I didn't see it. Oh my god, Google Syrian homemade tank. So to distract you away from understanding that United States weaponry has been given to these dudes, the Syrian National Coalition for Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, you see it?

1:52:32 Yeah, you gotta play the video man. So they built this tank out of like a PlayStation and some metal plates that they ripped up from the road. And it's being heralded in social media, look how innovative these guys are, this is great. And the tank rolls over a branch. So badass, it rolls over a branch. And it's just like, are we really supposed to believe that this is what they're dealing with? They've got, they got scuds, man. I got all kinds of weaponry that we, this is big. This is like a comedy. Syrian rebels are prepared to battle tyrant Bashar Assad using a homemade tank with a machine gun that can be fired using a P S three style controller. Really?

1:53:28 Do you see the video where it's rolling over the bridge? Yeah, yeah, it's ludicrous. Oh It's too funny if you haven't seen it and you're listening to this podcast for six niner dot in a show notes calm Also, I've created a link called latest. I think it's latest dot in a show notes calm So I always take you to the most recent Maybe it was now, maybe it was both, I don't know. Anyway, so this thing stinks. This thing really stinks. And Hillary was supposed to go. Hillary was supposed to go but she got a tummy ache. How about that, huh? What's that all about? I think someone tried to poison her. Oh, that could be. I really do. Because they're out trying to kill celebrities.

1:54:19 Yeah, I got proof. An alleged murder plot has been uncovered in New Mexico and the target may have been Justin Bieber. A convicted killer currently in prison claims he hired two men to kill and mutilate the singer and his bodyguard. Those two men have been arrested. They're facing charges of conspiracy to commit murder. They should be getting a medal. The Congressional Medal of Honor. kill and mutilate? Why would you want to kill and mutilate Justin Bieber? You really have to be hard up for entertainment. This probably falls into your Hollywood Whackers thing. Maybe they were trying to put the screws to him. Why is it on Canadian news though? I hadn't heard this. Where was the arrest? Oh great, phone. Well don't answer it. Where was the arrest? No, the guy was in jail.

1:55:19 Let me see I'd look at you died in the lunch murder plot has been uncovered in New Mexico and the target may have been Justin Bieber a convicted killer currently in prison claims He hired two men to kill and mutilate the singer and his bodyguard those two men have been arrested They're facing charges of conspiracy to commit murder. That sounds bogative That was Peter Mansbridge. Yeah He's the best anchor in the world. I know and he's in Canada Yeah, I know and I've always baffled by the fact that we have all these four where they play BBC they play all these in fact You there's one station here that plays all these foreign newscasts Which is what I get a lot of material from but nobody plays the CBC national which is one of the best Newscasts there is I mean for commercial let's remember once as good as PBS. Let's remember one thing Justin Bieber is Canadian

1:56:16 Oh, that's right. So, you know, there is that. He's more popular in the US. This is the fact, this story did not get any legs here. This is ridiculous. Why don't we, I mean, can we trade Bieber for that country girl? Can we, can they, can they go maim and mutilate her? They got a bunch of country, what, Taylor Swift? They could have Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. We'll trade Taylor Swift for Justin Bieber. I can't really sing, but I'm rich. So Morrissey in the news here, I should actually do my little, here we go. And now back to real news. You know who Morrissey is, John? Yeah, everybody knows who Morrissey is. Oh yeah? Who's Morrissey? The singer. Yeah. From what band? I named after him. From what band?

1:57:03 Morrissey. Okay, no, not from the Morrissey band. What is the name of his band? I forgot. The Smiths. Yeah, the Smiths. He's the depressing guy. Yeah, exactly. So he hates the British royal family and he comes out and he, I have to say, uh... he could be a host on this very podcast is pretty good with the recent story about uh... the nurse killing herself in the king edward hospital there's no blame place that take middleton who was in the hospital for a blackness the crops in the release she feels no shame about the death of this woman she's saying nothing about the death of this poor woman

1:57:44 The arrogance of the British Royals is staggering, absolutely staggering. And why it's allowed to be, I really don't know. Does she have a health condition? Is it anorexia or is it a pregnancy? We don't know. But what is the health condition? I mean, morning sickness already? So much hoo-ha and then suddenly as bright as a... Lizards. As soon as this poor woman dies, she's out of hospital. It doesn't ring true. It doesn't ring true. And I'm sure the palace and Clarence House put maximum pressure on this poor receptionist nurse. Of course that's kept away from the press. So, I do have, you know, you kind of sprung this on me the other day and I was not paying attention to it because... What, lizards? Yeah, the lizard thing. Yeah.

1:58:33 But here there is something to be said about this so first of all this is the second half of the show stuff we still to do our no no I got I got real second half did not just because you call that lizards doesn't mean it's half a second half of the show stuff but this is kind of important because This woman, apparently she killed herself, left a note, but she hung herself. Let me tell you that the percentage of nurses and people in the medical field who kill themselves by hanging is pretty, pretty, pretty darn small.

1:59:09 Yeah, now before you go into your explanation, I do have a clip. Okay. Which starts with the Australian DJs crying and then there's a little tidbit in here and I think it might be accurate and that which brings which will lead into what you're gonna say which is the Nurse Saldana saga. Okay. Here we go. Worse than what I feel right now and for what I feel for the family. We're so sorry that this has happened to them. In London, people who knew Mrs Saldana paid tribute to her humanity. She cared for my father in a time of need. He was very ill at the time and she was a wonderful nurse and she was part of the excellent care that he always received and it's very disappointing to have lost her. The hospital repeated that Mrs Saldana had not been reprimanded over the prank call and pledged to do everything to help her grieving family.

2:00:04 Tonight the hospital announced the creation of a special memorial fund in tribute to someone they described as an outstanding nurse Okay, a couple of things one and I believe this to be true. She was not reprimanded So she didn't really but there's no reason for this to happen in the first place And then second if you look at her, she's a very good-looking kind of Indian Eurasian looking woman not very old Young have plenty to live for so it's suspicious. It is very suspicious and so Understand that this hospital which is a private hospital. This is not part of the National Health System This is a private hospital where a lot of money is paid by the Royals to be taken care of here We're embarrassed. They were highly highly highly embarrassed the the Lord muckety-muck. I can look his name up

2:00:50 who oversees this outfit, he was embarrassed. He needed a head to roll. In addition to the hospital, he has all kinds of military contracts and all kinds of actually software-defined radio company using high frequency, very high frequency, ultra high frequency for data transmission for the British intelligence and Department of Defense. He needed to have a scapegoat. I mean not for one second has the hospital apologized has this douchebag apologized Oh and coincidentally Levinson from the Levinson inquiry about you know the the press and how they need to be reined in he actually flew to Australia the day that this happened with this Australian radio program and

2:01:44 And this was a very typical hit job by people who just don't want to take the blame because they're so afraid of the royal family and rightfully so. The royal family will kill you. They will kill you. They killed Lady Diana. They will kill you if they don't like you. This little crazy bat in her palace there in the middle of London. So they whacked this poor nurse. I'm pretty convinced of it. They whacked her. It definitely sends a message and it was a big topic of discussion here. I mean, you know radio stations next to go. Sorry, Morrissey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because anyway, yes.

2:02:31 I do have, talking about predicting something like that, I do have my, I put in the newsletter that people should subscribe to. You can click on this, on the button on the Devorak.org blog posting of the show. Or any of the show notes. Yeah, there should be links to the newsletter. Anyway, I did predict, or I said I was going to predict in advance a distraction of the week which will be a whopper. And are we gonna get that now or are we gonna take a break first? What do you want to do? Okay, let's take the break first and I'll get to the Whopper right afterwards.

2:03:20 I wouldn't be surprised. So we want to thank a few people for being producers for the show, donating, keeping us going here in a very nice and leisurely way in the 12-12-12 celebration. Now it's 12-13. Starting with Thomas Badrick in Nutley, New Jersey, came in at $199, wants to give Adam a karma shot with hopes that things get better over in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. With any luck he's already out of there. No, but if not this donation amount is the maximum estimated price according to everyday health.com for a prescription of Haldol. Hey! Thank you. You've got karma. I'm all over that. All over the Haldol. David J. Lister in Provo, Utah 14689. My wallet's not quite ready for one of those instant night 12 12 12 donation but your show's worth far more than a measly 12 bucks.

2:04:13 So here's 12.12 times 12.12 for 146.89. Adam, I hope this funds a couple of nights in your Dutch island yurt. Go take Mickey to a Christmas market while you're in Euroland. They're great. My wife just finished the most grueling year of her life, baby plus master's degree. She even had the gall the other day to request that I now call her master. No way! You ever heard of that? That's one hot milf baby karma, though for the next 18 months of CPA exam. And John, tell your voice to stop reading this as my head... wait, this in my head, I see.

2:04:55 Yeah, can't be done. Dave the Mormon. That's one hot milf, baby. You've got karma. Master milf. She's the master milf, I tell you. The master milf arrives. Lori Swim in Marysville, Kansas 14551, glad I stumbled on NOJA in the podcast one year ago. Here's a donation to top off my husband's 121212 nighthood. We could have put him in the list at the beginning. Sir Swimmer, he has requested lone wolf rain stick karma. However, I fear you don't have the rain stick or a rain stick recording in that sense Adam is far from us and this won't be possible. Can you think of a good euro substitute? Yes, I'd like the suggestion that follows.

2:05:39 I can't, this is, they're using some weird character set, I can't read a word of it. Atlas Short might work, yeah, it's very nice. Also, here's a video I highly recommend, someday, sorry, I'll get it, RSS added. I wish you a happy Hanukkah, not to annoy the hell out of you, but because Hanukkah is a revolution of the weak against the mighty, wicked, powerful, and wicked and cruel Greeks, it's most fitting to remember the history of the Jewish people because by all odds they should not have remained a people group for this long spread out and cast away from their homeland. The Jewish story is one that always amazes me. I hope Americans can find the courage like the Maccabees to revolt at some point.

2:06:16 If this gets any more out of hand, okay. It's a reference to this video which we'll put in the show notes. We will and here's your special karma request. Kelly Kelby Koenig in Grover Colorado 14548 who He just says bring on the cookies milk and boobies don't read on the show the following note Which is actually saying telling us that he's got a knighthood apparently

2:06:52 Stan, and he's on the list, Stan Salisbury of the Salisbury Steak Family in Gainesville, Florida, 14544, way overdue for my annual donation this year based on 1212 per month or 12 months or 14544. Also why wait if we can only have nine days to go for the end of the world on the 21st? Also what better Hey, could there be except 12 12 12? Congratulations for another great year in the best podcasting universe I wish John and Adam and all the no agenda producers around the world to have a very Merry Christmas a Happy New Year and let's hope that our last that it's not our last after all please play the no agenda national anthem at least once before the end of the show we'll try to do that the end and Also, why not get your supporting artists to come up with a no agenda flag?

2:07:36 How about some karma for Mickey and Adam to expedite their return? Thank you very much. Stan Salisbury, Gainesville, Florida. You've got karma. Thank you. We accept your karma. Hold on one second. One. Okay, then we have Stephen Bowe, B-O-E. Who I'm looking for a note. Sir Steven. And no there's not. So Steven Boe has no note. 12121 Martin Anderson. Sir Martin Anderson to you in Denmark. Copenhagen as a matter of fact also was speechless at least from what I can tell and so he'll be that will read something from if I find it later. Christopher Lusk in Philadelphia Pennsylvania on 1111.

2:08:26 He's written a he's written essentially war and peace which I'll read pieces of because it's war and pieces of Adam I empathize empathize with your situation being away from home against your will is one of the hardest situations to cope with You can make your time as best you can but until you're on the way home. There is a rock in your stomach He's been eating Dutch food Stroke bottles As a performer you should know these things can't be allowed to spill over into your work. It hasn't actually, I don't think. Well I was a little angry on the last show, that is true. I did let it go a little bit. Yeah, that's right, that's what he's bitching about. Yeah, you were complaining, bitching and moaning and cussing a lot. Yeah, that's what I do.

2:09:10 He doesn't want you to do that because a new listener will be gone with pretty good reasons. It also reflects back he's giving his lectures. I operate in the mindset that I can't... Is he lecturing me? Is that what he's doing here? He's lecturing you, yeah. You can read this on your own time. I don't think the general public needs to listen to him lecturing you. I feel lectured. Okay. On that note, John needs headphones. I don't need headphones when I'm not using them. He's lecturing you. I'll give you a topic to watch for and then he's uh... I don't know. He will be a knight today, our Christopher. Yeah, that's the good news. That's great.

2:09:48 All right, Jason Johnson, Santa Rosa, California. ITM from northern northern Silicon Valley, which is Santa Rosa, of course, $101.10. Early Christmas donation to the show, thanks to the media assassination, it could get Pelosi, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, two to the head, Karma for you two, and if you can play Hillary Delicious, then girl, Hillary, don't eat me. Oh, that's the next donation, I'm sorry, I read the next one, okay. I give it to the... Jobs, jobs, two to the head, karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Got it! Yeah, this is actually the... this is I'll give the Mark Workman here from Dayton, Ohio, $101 and one says I'll give him a... I say combination of the day. I haven't heard it yet, but I never thought of this combination. I have to give him... this is a good one. This he would... all he wants to hear is two to the head,

2:10:47 I'm sorry, Hillary delicious and then Hillary don't eat me. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! That's horrible. I could just play that all day long. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! We need to get that to her. We need to send that to her. It's pretty good acting too, because you can just see a girl in... She's not acting. She really doesn't want to be eaten. Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton! She just doesn't want to be eaten. It's just like it's something from a horrible fairy tale. Tim, Abel and Woodley, somewhere, parts unknown, $100 and one cent. Anonymous from Ramsey, Isle of Man, $100.

2:11:37 Let's see, Nation Three Legs, this is our third annual payment. We would send you more if we had more. Thanks so much for a wonderful show. I really appreciate it. Ryan Nessler in Altura, Minnesota, $99.99. He wants karma for his friend Kurt and a douche bag call out for his other friend Aaron. You've got karma. Alfred Langdon Colleyville Texas 96 96 sending some karma to the vagabonds sir long the good yeah oh karma sorry karma hello you've got karma Jonathan Rose Tel Aviv 89 90 just love

2:12:28 Just some love for the best podcast in the universe. Adam, you sounded miserable on episode 468, so give yourself and your lovely wife some get-your-asses-back-to-text-nuts karma. I'd also like to hear a two-to-the-head fiscal cliff just to hear what it sounds like together. And P.S., this Jew ain't cheap, but just getting by most of the time. You've got karma. We never said you were. I never said you were a cheap Jew. We never said you were. Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton! Nelson Ferrara.

2:13:06 Nelson Ferraro, New Rochelle, New York. Another round of screw lupus. Previous round was successful since it is my wife, my wife is feeling better. I think he wants a Karma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got that. Billy McGinnis in Irvine, Texas. 75-74. A shot of a donation, you're not sure if this note will connect, either way it's not a big deal. I emptied my PayPal today and it came to a fairly nice looking 74.75, we recommend that for everyone. I'd like to ask a bit of karma spread around to Miss Mickey and Adam while they are lost in Euro-zombieland, trademark. As well as for us at home with our new little human resource, Malcolm.

2:13:51 uh... nine months three things made me stop right on a dime and donate in the first twenty minutes of four sixty eight one john's crack about depressions making people depressed when he mentioned i haven't finished the cycle book that made me giggle to be too many did that it was a great deadpan work to adam saying i hate my life but i think that sincere and not it doesn't matter you're writing people's days just being around and not people on google plus Well, that's a different thing. I don't listen to this show. The fact that I'm mooching douchebag for 468 episodes in and I'm now just finding acceptable giving level, three fingers of scotch. Also, if you haven't seen it, check out North Korea state run intranet from Paige and he's got a link we can put in the show notes if we can remember to.

2:14:38 uh... and uh... they're doing some readings and buddies did you twenty four some of your twenty four hour network thing and career some i'm not sure where you can get it with the same send video send video give him his uh... is needed uh... well given the car he didn't ask for a little bit for sure and that they needed some contact karma everybody got a little some karma scott olson in san diego california seventy five nineteen couldn't miss on a donation the best podcast in the multiverse The universe in 1212 12 which happens to be my birthday. Oh Nice, I'm wishing Adam and Mickey the best of luck with their DHS troubles while lying low in the lowlands It's almost like a little girl. Don't eat like a little girl. Don't eat me Clinton. It's almost too delicious Wow, he said that would genius is that listen this show is that reverse? We don't want to do a reverse got it reversed. Okay, we can do a try it reversed Hillary Clinton

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2:16:10 Phenomenous. We received a number of 7171 donations that pass a few to the George Carlin Heritage but never caught or at least pointed out its true meaning. Carlin said that 71 was 69 with two fingers up your ass. Who are these listeners? So it doesn't, no wonder you're anonymous. So does it qualify, okay I shouldn't have even read this. So it doesn't qualify as a swazant nufor as an entirely new category. You be the judge. It's a new category. We have two fingers up the butt. uh... patrick brennan in munich germany mentioned that do it's land sorry seventy my mom just turned sixty nine but i couldn't get my mom sixty nine car was all have to give a bucket for good luck but the centers of karma special car for this is admins at ship all she told you shot it all shit holes and to the they had to all the grammar nazis on face book

2:17:12 Yes, I have to say that even Even though it was not pleasant the reason I had to come here when I landed at Shipol Shipol Airport, it is pretty cool to have that no agenda Private Wi-Fi network that is just ours. I have to say that's pretty damn awesome. It's still working. Yeah, you've got karma that is so funny if you want if you want info then email me i'll send it to you i have to definitely go to when i go to next time we go to amsterdam i'm gonna stay out the airport just long enough to get my email yes as long as yes and and guess who else is back for the third time in the same show you've got to be kidding me no it's time to play the jingle again 69 69 dude

2:18:00 not the Baron of France Baron von Pausenmacher decided to get in on this deal did his divorce finalize? he was worried the streak was gonna die did his divorce finalize? something happened I love this guy He is the best. He's invited us. He is our number one patron for anyone out there who wants to compete with him. We're willing to... You can't compete with him. He has invited us to come to the castle, to the barony, a tour of his work, which I won't mention, but he does, he has a very interesting job and he's like, you know, anything you guys want, anything. And in addition to that, he's supporting the show.

2:18:47 And he's running two countries. I have to keep the streak going, especially on a show dedicated to the 69ers like show 469. He's reminding us of the gag we missed. Yeah. Tempting faith perhaps by asking some swazzle enough karma for all the dames and knights of the no agenda round table cannot think of a more deserving human resource and a to do they had douchebag call out to all the non-donating listeners. Really be very ashamed slaves. Help Adam and John keep the best podcast universe going. Why? Because you'll feel better. Trust me. Wow, that's so kind of you, Baron. William Bunnell in Greenfield, Indiana, 69-69.

2:19:37 Gentlemen, I'm a semi-boner no more, having only modestly donated before. Seeing that the wife finally pulled out a swazzle enough before the year was to conclude and having received an expensive check from work the same month, she'll never know about it by hiding it in Christmas costs. I cannot help but think a little 69.69 karma might be all I need to sneak another one in before years end. Okay. I as well hold a ham license but have never keyed a mic. If I can get a de-douching and a karma for the both of you and myself I would be grateful. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well as all the other listeners. Sincerely, Scottie A Winkler. Okay.

2:20:24 Please do not read on air, please! I'm glad I read that because I was about to give him a big ham shout out. So yes, and thank you so much, Scotty. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Mr. William? Kevin Fairchild in Land O' Lakes, Florida, 6969. I'm celebrating my 12-11 birthday with a Swazzle Nuff donation. I would like to get a little Lizzie Bah Humbug slave. It seems like the closer it gets to Christmas, the more broke I get. Wait till April. Bah Humbug slave.

2:21:03 Michael Birch, Sir Michael Birch to you in Port Angeles, Washington, one of our locals. 6969. He's in washing nuts, he likes to say. I hereby put the No Agenda Nation on alert level orange. In light of Adam's current situation and issue a No Agenda Challenge Coin challenge by the power vested in me by my coin number 142, all citizens of No Agenda Nation with a challenge coin must donate at least $33.33 to receive a de-douching for the douche bag given today. The only other option is to shut up slave. He wants us to play a douche bag game. Douche bag! Right, thank you.

2:21:44 Sir Michael Birch. And that... 69! 69, dudes! Awesome! ...year old egg. Mike Caddick and Stalwell Victoria, 60 bucks. Greetings from India. Obviously he's not an Indian. They're the cheap guys, not the people in Israel. Some post-surgery karma would be great and a massive douchebag call out to the jerks at Mana Medical back at home in Oz for being greedy, money-grubbing bastards and forcing me to have my needed surgery over here in India.

2:22:20 Wow, you mean it was too expensive so he had to do it over there? That sucks. Yeah, douchebag. Man's medical. Screw you guys. Let me give him some recovery karma. Holy moly. You've got karma. He's actually having a good time, he says. Okay, well that's nice. Sir John Martinez over here in Gilroy, California, land of the garlic. get more nice and garlic 55 double niggles on the dime why because Adam and Mickey are freezing that's right freezing mofos sir John are you freezing now is it still cold it's very cold and maybe take some pictures of the snow I can put in the newsletter so people see there's no snow the snow is gone it's just cold now it's just cold oh get up early and get the picture there's gotta be frost my uh my policy is if I'm walking outside and I can see my breath I should not be walking outside this is my policy

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2:24:15 uh... so james howard indianapolis uh... double nickels it says i'd like to dedicate this donation to lizzy restoring in the greatest jingle on the show and i want all my fellow producers to step up and make her a game well deserves it and that she does in the ad don't eat me hillary's shut up slave the thing is if you've seen the video of her doing this I mean, you just want to cry. You just want to gobble this kid up. She's so amazing.

2:24:51 She's so cute. She has the bug-eyed look of a monster coming at her to eat her. But she also has a little cute beret in her hair. It's very funny. She's quite hilarious. Broadway. I'm telling you, this kid's going to Broadway. Until her voice changes, then you know, just another teenager. James Howard, oops, sorry. Broken Wall Films in Charlton, Massachusetts. Please refer to me as Nick in central Taxichusenuts. I drive 55 miles each way to a job that I don't particularly like on a good day and makes me hateful on bad ones. The shining light is having douchebag and climate gate jingles pop into my head while I sit through the countless Ivy League guest lectures and I get a coin flip karma for myself. What's that? Oh.

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2:31:37 I think we just gave Target an unnecessary plug. Yeah, people are running to the store now. I can see. It worked so incredibly well. Well, luckily I've got my sword here with me. If you have your sword, we have quite a list of knives that we can... Of course. Perfect. Zachary Giesemann, Ian Field or Eon, Ate Sturms, Paul Barnett and JBNSJ. Tice Arnson, Papa Guido, Lori Swim, or at least your husband, Swimmer. Kelby, Koenig, and Christopher Luss, please all step forward as you have now all become Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. I hereby pronounce thee Sir Zachary, Sir Ian, Sir Utt, Sir Paul, Sir J.D., Sir T, Sir Papa Guido, Sir Swimmer, Sir Kelby, and Sir Christopher. Congratulations. You all now join the very coveted Roundtable of the No Agenda Knights. And with that, as you know, comes

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2:33:25 Wasn't I, I had some idea I was going to say something and you maybe teased it for the second half of the show? Excuse me? Second half of the show? Second half of the show? Well it's time for second half of the show. You don't get to do anything. It's my turn to do something. No but didn't I, didn't we tease what you're going to say something, I was going to say something after the So don't you want to do it after the donation segment? And I said, yeah, okay, we'll tease that and then I didn't get to do it. Okay, well then you go ahead and do it. This is the upcoming distraction of the week month. This is an actual prediction before it happens. Okay, now I'm gonna just play this clip. Right, this is what the second half of the show, it's kind of wacky. Excuse me, the second half of the show is not wacky, it's fact and science. I'm going to play this clip and you tell me

2:34:15 What you think my predictions going to be this is a double thing because I'm not only gonna predict a Distraction of the week, but you're going to predict what I'm going to predict. This is a first for the show. Whoa Okay, let me just get this straight. This is a 15 second clip. I I am going to predict what you're going to predict based upon this clip. Do I have this right? Yes, okay South Africa's former president Nelson Mandela will remain in hospital in Pretoria to have further tests The 94 year old was admitted on Saturday, but doctors still haven't explained what he's being treated for This is mr. Mandela's third trip to hospital in two years. I predict

2:34:55 He's pregnant with lizards. No, no, no, you have to predict what I'm gonna predict. You're going- I'm predicting that you're going to predict that he's going to die. Exactly. this is not very nice i'm sorry he's ninety three they get it they're gonna this is going to be a great distraction this will chew up two or three weeks of the media oh my gosh you're so right we're gonna have retrospectives big package in fact right now everyone at cnn is trying to get their package done every night every news before the christmas holidays like i don't believe that it did yet that that news report which is we don't know why he's even in the hospital or hospital is that what he has a uh... one is a lung infection yes i think that's what he has whatever the case is that i think that was a who only reported okay guys get ready to have to produce a new lattice dot yet we got a lot of work less risky and yet it was like

2:35:59 You know, because you know, the poor guy, I mean he's a superhero and everything and it's going to be sad, although he had a very long life. I mean, 94 is nothing to sneeze at. But you're absolutely right, I can just hear around news organizations around the world going, oh geez, really? Before the holidays we've got to put all these packages together? Okay, well if he dies before Christmas, then it's part of the war on Christmas. Right. He dies after Christmas, which I believe he'll die before. My prediction would be he'll die a couple of, like between Christmas and New Year's, that will distract us from the fiscal cliff. Right. So we won't deal with this, the

2:36:45 alternative minimum tax or any of these other issues and we'll forget about that because everyone will be in mourning. And that's why, that's my, so I would rather predict it will take place between Christmas and New Year's. I have to, well, I got to push back a little bit because we all, we have our year-end retrospectives that we've already put together between Christmas and New Year's. We have our end of year list, you know, here's what happened, our look back. So we're basically, we're leaving a donut, we're leaving a hole. In our retrospective to slot in you'll be able to identify it You're gonna see the year-end special every every, you know, Barbara Walters has one for ABC NBC CBS Fox CNN MSN they'll all have them and you'll see the whole and if Nelson Mandela dies before the end of the year they'll slot that in if not, it'll be something really really lame, you know like

2:37:41 Justin Bieber was top of the charts again in 2012. You watch, you'll be able to see it. Okay, here's another possibility. we go through the holidays, Christmas and New Year's and it happens immediately after New Year's because it's a slow, that's a slow news. Maybe he's already dead and they're keeping him on ice until it's convenient. You know what, I'm always suspicious about that. But they keep him under ice and then he's dead on the second or third when there's nothing to talk about, they're all ready to go and that distracts everybody from the fact that we went over the cliff.

2:38:17 This is not only America, John. This is like the rest of the world doesn't give a crap about your cliff. No, I'm just telling you if you see it happen exactly like that, you won't be able to say I didn't tell you so. That's the way I predict it. This cliff is a big deal internationally because it's going to collapse the stock market. No one gives a... No, in fact, I disagree. I think going over the cliff will make the stock market boom. It's going to go up. Well, you're... yeah, okay, sure. Okay, okay. So I got... No, no, no, no, no, no! It's my turn for second half of the show. All right, go ahead. This is real... You're such an a-hole. Go on, I'm saying. This is very, very big news. Medvedev of Russia. You know who he is, right? Medvedev. Yeah, yeah, we all know Medvedev. He was in San Francisco recently. Really?

2:39:18 Yeah. Is he one of those guys who runs around naked? No, no, he was in a limo with a bunch of armed guards. He would fit right in with those naked guys. So Medvedev did a big show in Russia, big television interview with five journalists at a round table where they got to ask him anything that they wanted to or as is orchestrated. So they finished the interview, it was pre-taped, And so everything's still rolling, the mics are still on, it's still rolling. But he all of a sudden goes off and he starts like slamming Putin for always being late.

2:39:55 He's saying like, you know, someone has to be on time, you know, like one of these things. And then he starts, it's unbelievable what he said. I have the audio, which I'll just play in the background. This has been translated by multiple news organizations. I'm going to read verbatim the translation. I'm telling you guys for the last time the president has a suitcase that not only holds the nuclear codes but also has a special map of the country with locations of aliens who have visited our country and still reside here. He also receives regular reports about alien activity. Believe me, it's not unlike the Men in Black movies. I won't comment on how many aliens are here on Earth as that could start widespread panic.

2:40:48 And that is the translation of what he said. What? This is bogus. This is a hoax you've fallen for. No, no, no, no, no, no. This has been on every single European news outlet has done this. This is not just one hoax. Now, I would like some of our... So the Russians, by the way, over time we've noticed, the Russians have always maintained a supposedly some relationship with some specific group of aliens. But you have to ask yourself if that's true, how come we're the ones who invented the stealth technologies? Let me tell you what the theory is.

2:41:25 The thinking is that, obviously with the end of the world and the fiscal cliff and everything, that Obama is apparently on the verge of telling everybody about the aliens. Because you know, it's time. Now what the reason is behind that, there's a whole bunch of theories about that. But that the Russians, particularly Putin and Medvedev, they want a leg up and they wanted to pop this out first and they wanted to tell everybody about the aliens first. That's what the story is. So the theory is that they got wind of the fact that Obama's going to blow the lid off this. Right, so they had to come out first.

2:42:08 Okay, well congratulations. You brought the show back to its old formula. It's not just a formula. This is fact. This is fact. All right, then I gotta roll this out because I've been holding onto this. This is really quite amazing. If you wanna know just what kind of citizen slave you really are, go ahead and try missing out on paying a parking ticket or doing something wrong on your taxes or just forgetting to bring back a library book, okay? You're gonna get kicked up the ass.

2:42:46 Now, that's because you're not in the big game like the banks, like HSBC. HSBC officials listed Mexico in its lowest risk category for money laundering during a four-year period when Mexican drug cartels were funneling over $700 billion through the bank. U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch. The investigation revealed that staggering amounts of cash, hundreds of thousands of US dollars daily, were being deposited into HSBC Mexico using boxes specially made to fit through their tellers' windows to speed the transactions.

2:43:21 And it wasn't just the drug cartels that benefited from what prosecutors called the bank's willful failure to report suspicious activity. HSBC instructed an Iranian bank how to conceal $183 million in transactions. HSBC also admitted to cutting the number of internal watchdogs to save money. Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer. HSBC is paying a heavy price for its conduct. and under the terms of today's agreement if the bank fails to comply with this agreement in any way, any way at all, we of course in the government reserve the right to prosecute the bank. So before I finish this clip, let me just, so yes you are hearing this correctly, HSBC laundered intentionally

2:44:11 bill billions seven hundred trillion seven hundred billion dollars of drug money in special on the lops mind you no no special boxes boxes so they could fit into the teller window and no one is arrested the bank is not shut down No one's going to jail. They pay 1.9 billion dollars in fines to who? I don't know. Probably Lenny Breuer's like living it up with a 71. Who the hell knows? And the Justice Department has the gall to stand there and say, Oh, but if they do it again, you know, then, oh, then the company's in big, then it's in big, big trouble. And now he's going to talk to this douche woman again from, I think she's also from Justice. Under the terms of today's settlement, nobody at HSBC will face criminal charges. Notre Dame professor Jimmy Garuli investigated money laundering cases for the Treasury Department. We're not talking about mere negligence.

2:45:08 We're talking about a criminal scheme that was adopted as a policy of HSBC to look the other way with regard to suspicious transactions involving money laundering. Some would say that the message is if you break all the laws you can until you get caught, You may have to pay a lot of money, but you're not going to go to jail. That's a very short-sighted view, I think, because in this case, they're obviously paying a great deal of money, but they also have had to literally turn their company inside out. The message should be that that's what you have to do. Turn the company inside out? What an incredible hardship.

2:45:50 This to me is the most unbelievable story the most disgusting 700 billion dollars again You know, I'm telling you Washington Colorado Get ready. The Feds are coming. This is big big business. I think what I think the VIG on that is 70 billion, isn't it? Just the Vig alone Just the VIG alone. So they made 70 billion dollars and paid a billion. By the way, I want to read the definition of suspicious. Oh, they didn't report suspicious behavior. Suspicious. Having or showing a cautious distrust of someone or something. There was no distrust. No, they were in on it. They were all in it together. No suspicious activity. This is so unbelievable. Our economy is running on the drug money.

2:46:40 This is not a joke. This is the truth. Colorado, Washington, you cannot have legal drugs. It has to run through the system. You're going to get shut down because without this drug money we have no economy. Well of course with our weaponry, our bombs and stuff that we make. But I'm just... All adds up. Aren't you blown away by this? That it's just like, oh okay, well... I thought it was hilarious. But we'll have to turn the company inside out if they do it one more time! Now, hilarious is this. This is hilarious. Drug related.

2:47:38 teenagers to be screened for eating problems. Yeah, let's scan the kids for eating problems. That's terrible. But they've got it wrong. It's like once you do weed, that's when you start binging. It's not the other way around. No, no, but they use the reverse argument. That way they can find the kids who do drugs and bust them. Yeah. Just a scam. It's kind of related. What's related to it? I got a clip that's somewhat related. You know Michael Powell used to be the head of the FCC, now runs the cable industry. Here he is talking about social media. Powell on social media. What role do you think social media will play sort of intermeshing with your TV experience going down the road? I think that's a great question because... It's not a great question! It's bullcrap! That is not a great question! How is that a great question? I'm asking you.

2:48:35 It's not a great question. It's just not. Why did you say it was? Because he's in charge of social media. I don't know why. You tricked me. You tricked me with that one. I like it when you trick me. There was kind of a funny little thing that popped up during the State Department briefing. Maybe I should save that to Sunday. That would probably last. I'll save that to Sunday. I have some stuff for Sunday apparently too. That'll last.

2:49:12 uh... weekend also i have one day i do have a meme i've uncovered which i mentioned in the news that i was gonna talk about today alright but i think i'm gonna save it for sunday really just have to excuse i really would like to because i there's a look at more things i want to drop in their okay can i do it uh... diane sawyer drunk doing introducing a drunk segment oh yeah but the real danger is alcohol away did i cut her off That's no good. I can't believe I cut her off when I can get the full clip again this is bad because it's about.

2:49:55 about people driving the wrong way and apparently alcohol is pretty much... Makes you do that. Yeah, well... Yeah, alcohol makes you do that, exactly. It makes you do it. Yeah, you have a drink and next thing you know you want to go on the wrong side of the road. Turns you British. You're driving the wrong way, idiot. But I think for some reason I took off Diane Sawyer because I was like, this is just, it's too mean. It was too mean. Here it is. Okay, this is this is coming from the original ABC News report. Let's see if we can get Diane Sawyer. It's just I feel funny about her today. And now a story that affects every person who drives in America. A new report says almost 400 people are killed every year because of drivers going the wrong way on the road. It's the most deadly traffic accident and just last night three women were killed by a driver going the wrong way in Connecticut.

2:50:54 Tonight, officials say they are ready to crack down and here's ABC senior national correspondent, Jumaane N'Namdi. No, it's because she's not drunk. That's why I pulled it out. She's not drunk. But there is something in the report that is noteworthy. But the real danger is alcohol. 60% of wrong-way accidents are caused by drunk drivers, nearly 10% by repeat offenders, which is why the NTSB is recommending that all 50 states require this ignition lock on all cars driven by anyone convicted of a DUI. So if I'm drunk, And I blow in here, what happens? The car will not start. It's as simple as that. That by the way is a woman from Mothers Against Drunk Driving, which is MADD, which is a huge scam organization. They collect money from these students. Yeah, no, the original founder of MADD quit the organization because it's turned into a scam. Scam, right. You won't be able to drive the car. The NTSB is also pushing car manufacturers to fast track

2:51:54 new technology that would allow sensors in all cars to determine if any driver is sober before allowing ignition. So this is very interesting. Any driver? Any driver. That means you want to drive your car? Blow in the tube, slave. Just in case. You know? Just in case. Before it's a crime, it's pre-crime. So they're just telegraphing this is all coming. Yeah, well, at least they're honest about it. Yeah, that's true. It's hard to beat that one. I do have a clip that's kind of interesting. That's kind of a slave clip. If it's not really good, then don't bother me with it. I think it's good. Okay.

2:52:38 It's a slave clip. It's like a shut up slave clip. This came off apparently a report on the Marriott hotel chain and it was run on CNBC's, one of my favorite shows called Fast Money. It's a bunch of traders that talk about stuff and they're interviewing one of the Marriott executives who essentially tells that, I mean this thing that he says it just galls me so much that I will not stay at a Marriott anymore. Let me give you another scenario. I walk into the hotel, I go to the front desk. You have a few rooms available that night and say, sir, room's going to be $300. I say, how about $200? Here's $200. Do you take it? Never. Why? No way. That is called the fade, and that's something that... There's a term for that. It's called the fade. If you do that, you've just trained that customer. Don't book in advance. You'd rather that room go empty for the entire night

2:53:50 and give it to me for less than what you would otherwise charge? Yes. Over time, you don't want to train customers to wait and feel like they can get a better deal. It sounds like you train the customer to go elsewhere. Like Starwood maybe. What's your initial take? My initial take is that, just to your point, people want to hunt for the best bargain. So you've got to be competitive. They do not have a monopoly on hotel rooms. You've got to be competitive. So here, the concept of training the customer I find so offensive. Yeah, it is. You know, where's the customer's always right? It should be the customer's always right. You don't train the customer like he's a stupid idiot. We should be training jerk-offs like this Marriott guy and stop going to the Marriott. That'll train him, won't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:54:48 Yeah, anyway, I was very annoyed by that obviously I mean so when's the last time you actually stayed at a hotel period let alone a Marriott I'd stay at a hotel recently and it was a Marriott as a matter of fact. What was this? When I would went down to LA to visit the cool office new offices of media Recently this was four months ago To me is recent. I don't jump on the road like you I Traveling Wilburys. Alright, since it'll all be over, I just wanted to... Oh man, I'm getting slapped back for you. I'm getting slapped back for you, boy! So first I thought this mall shooter in Portland was going to be bogative.

2:55:38 Because they didn't use three names with him and then, ugh, they used three names. Oh, they did? ...revealed the man behind the mask who unleashed an hour of terror inside this packed Portland shopping mall. They say 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts stole a semi-automatic rifle from someone he knew. Jacob Tyler Roberts, like, oh, okay, three names, all right. So there's a couple things weird with this one. and uh... i'm i'm not putting it past anybody that this was a setup and they can only two people killed if they were really kill who knows i mean i'm sure they were really killed maybe they weren't killed uh... they had the cops did it an exercise for exactly exactly this kind of occurrence this is the same formula we've talked about how many years as you have we've been discussing the same coincidental

2:56:29 Situation that we every time it happens. Yeah, I do an exercise then this crazy thing happens and the guys always got three names and now he stole the rifle, but there's something there's a couple extras first of all, he's wearing a mask and and and and I think it's actually in this report I think where they bring it up. Detectives have revealed the man behind the mask who unleashed an hour of terror inside this packed Portland shopping mall. They say 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts stole a semi-automatic rifle from someone he knew and used it to kill two people and seriously wound a third Tuesday afternoon. We've not yet been able to establish how many shots were fired

2:57:07 during the attack although we believe he was carrying several fully loaded magazines. Police say Roberts entered at Macy's and primarily focused on the mall's food court. That's where 55-year-old Cindy Ewell and 45-year-old father Stephen Forsyth were killed. It's not in this report, it's in one of my other reports. There's always got to be some benefit for the mainstream media. I will say that the Friday the 13th Box set is coming out in January on Blu-ray DVD which Warner Brothers just purchased. You know the guy's wearing a hockey mask, everyone's talking about how he looked like Jason from Friday the 13th. But then the thing that really got me is Anderson Cooper has a witness on.

2:57:56 And when you hear this witness, I'm sorry, this witness is a professional and knows exactly what she's talking about. And you just put all these things together. I'm like, there's something set up with this and it's bothering me. So he's already saying some of them are contradictory. I'm not quite sure why. And now he's got Holly Batista. I can't find her anywhere. Certainly not from Portland. She is joining us now. Holly, what did you hear? When did you realize something was was was going wrong? Now, tell me if this is your typical witness.

2:58:34 You know, originally I had heard a couple things that I thought sounded like firecrackers. And as soon as I realized what was going on there with people running and screaming, somebody shooting, I was in the Macy's, which opens into the food court area. You know, the first instinct was obviously to head to an exit, but you could still hear gunshots. Right now and we are trying to get out and were you able to? To leave or I know at one point the police actually closed the doors because they didn't want people leaving because they didn't know if there may be More than one shooter involved were you just able to leave? Originally, no, I wasn't and then as soon as we did get out the door if it was within minutes they had all of the exits into the mall parking lot and

2:59:20 Locked down, you know, they had a perimeter set up. So so I'm Martin at this point I'm like locked down perimeter set up. Okay, we were not able to leave in our vehicles There was multiple agencies responding from multiple vehicles around the Portland multiple vehicles from multiple agencies that are scarred Yeah, these are all police talk. Yeah, keep listening area Still is you know at that point EMS The ambulances fire trucks came through you know our county incident response team is there now they have triage tents set up in different areas. Triage tents. Triage EMS. Yes and they're finally allowing vehicles to evacuate. But it. They call the code 33. That's all you're missing. No and there are still people that are locked down

3:00:06 multiple people The incident at the same time. Incident? Do you have a sense of, um, I mean did you see any injuries? Did you, you said there are multiple triage areas set up, I understand as many as three. Are they active? Are you, are you aware? Are they active? Okay. They are active. They are active! Lifeline has responded. Lifeline has responded, not helicopters, no Lifeline. And you know the Lifeline helicopters here only take patients to two hospitals in our local area. Yeah, of course I know that. I mean doesn't everyone know that they only take, Lifeline helicopters only take people to our two local hospitals in this area? Everyone knows that. They have left with patients. There are also ambulance backed up to one of the triage tents outside of an REI store

3:01:04 with the bottom of Macy's. It is active. Everything around here is still active. I do know that there is, I believe, an incident tent set up on the other side of the mall. I am across the street now evacuated. So now I'm like, this is, you're right. This is just a, this is an actor or somebody in the business or some cop. Or some buddy that's this is not a man on the street, but why why doesn't so the here's what bothers me? Why doesn't Anderson Cooper just say we have the sheriff's department PR woman? We've got you know Why why does he have to pretend? This is some witness who you know and I cut this down It was a lot much longer. She's talking about she's in the store with her daughter buying something But this is not just some some regular old Joe Schmoe and then we get

3:01:56 The spokesman for the Sheriff's Department, who is, I swear to God, if you look at the clip, 469.nashownotes.com, he's got a mustache, what's kind of hard to say, it looks like he's smiling the whole time he's saying it. It looks like he's actually kind of smiling and kind of like, heh heh. You stupid idiots and he starts to say stuff that also bothers me about this incident several units from local County state city federal agencies helping us methodically clear them all evacuate some wounded And do a thorough search to make sure that everything is safe again at this point This is no longer an active shooter and believe the shooter has been neutralized. Oh, come on. What does this shooter has been neutralized?

3:02:38 This is no longer an active shooter. This guy is running through a script, John. And we are securing the mall, securing the scene and treating the wounded. Exactly the way the script said. Securing the mall, treating the wounded and the shooter has been neutralized. I think that this was an exercise. Maybe an exercise gone wrong. And then there was this one story, one of our producers sent it to me, which I thought was really interesting. that this guy apparently, well let me just get the right article here. Was that you? Roberts identified the gunman, 22 year old Jacob Tyler, Jacob Robert. So the guy at his office, at his work, had said that he had just come into some money

3:03:33 from He had inherited some money from a relative and he was gonna go He was gonna go to Hawaii and it was gonna go check out different islands and then move there and that was a week before all of this happened then all of a sudden the guy like puts on a mask steals an assault rifle and goes and kills people that's rather odd Yeah, yeah, I thought it was rather odd myself so This is weird and they also did this exact same training exercise in 2005. So I don't know, you get these expert witnesses, you get the cop who's like talking all weird, you know. That sounds like something, this is not good. This has been going on this kind of, they're just playing, I don't know what the deal is with this but it seems like somebody's playing games with the public.

3:04:32 And these douchebags who are on these news shows, and Pooper's one of them, there's a bunch of others. I actually have an example of a clip that's something similar. These news guys, they never ask the logical questions. They're just really, when they call them meat puppets, I mean it's gone completely out of control. They don't say anything like, why are you talking like this? This doesn't make any sense. It's horrible. I mean what these guys are feeding the public is so pathetic. I mean you saw it at that concert, you know, when you watch these people in the audience. It's like wow. Now those are some meat puppets my friend.

3:05:08 Douche so I wish me puppets. Yeah, it's bad anyway. You know it's it's amusing. That's what it is keeps us entertained So on the Sunday show I'm gonna do the meme. Yeah, it's important everyone know about this new meme You'll get a kick out of it. Yeah, I may do I do have a tungsten clip from NCIS LA that I thought was a good piece of property funny I have the same someone sent me the the whole episode and Oh yeah, I got the right, the key clip. Okay, good. We can play it on Sunday and there's a couple of things here that could go. I mean there's a dark, zero dark 30 propagandist coming out is quite interesting. This is the movie about the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

3:06:03 Yeah, done by the same woman who did the Hurt Locker and we know what the feedback from real soldiers was about that movie. Apparently this is similar. Bogative. Bogative. But there's a hidden message in there that's kind of unique. Okay. And... Well that's enough teasing. Yeah, there's other stuff there. But then there'll be more stuff obviously happening in the next couple of days. Well, there will be a ton of stuff from over here. We've got Mario, Super Mario Monty resigning. We've got weird moves for Belgian Austerity. Of course, we wouldn't be able to round out the week with a Nigel Farage clip.

3:06:44 So plenty of what's going on here in in Euro land for my well, I do let's play one clip one clip I've got the I got the end tune running and now you want to play another clip No, no. No, I've stopped. I don't play the clip as end of show. Yeah, which one am I playing is end of show? Oh Berlusconi is back and it's just to me is like Adam Curtis once mentioned that you know the public is now the experts and so you hear these crazy people you know when they go man on the street to see what's really going on you hear just lunacy. I'm not quite sure what you meant with that but. Well you'll when you hear Berlusconi's best report on Berlusconi's running again. Yeah well that was kind of my report for Sunday but yeah I'll be happy to play this clip. Oh then you can you can you can this is just man on the street.

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