Iron Key

00:00 You are all a bunch of mainstream media watching morons! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Action Sunday November 25th 2012 Time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 464 This is no agenda Practicing my dits and da's here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Pacific NW bunker where i managed to see the cultural event of the year The James Bond movie It stinks! I am John C. DeVore Is crackpotting buzzkill! In the morning! Oh really? I was thinking about going to see that tonight. Bad idea

00:45 No, go see it! I'm not really- You want a summary? A quick summary so you don't have to go see it. Don't spoil it for me now, I'm fine. Screw that, don't spoil it. Why is everybody all concerned about don't spoil it? I'm not gonna go. Not a baseball game Should I tell you the last James Bond movie I saw? It won't be anything like this one. A View To A Kill Oh, that was when Duran Duran was still singing the soundtrack. That's how long ago it's been since I've seen a James Bond movie. I don't care! I just...I can't...I don't care! Don't go! Why did you go? You went. Well because... Eric DeChille is a movie junkie. Oh really?! And so we went and he said by the way he should have his own website

01:36 There was always been a better review than anybody else. I know boy does that he has no agenda nation calm He has a website No, yes is all he should have his own movie review website. Oh Okay, I get it So he spotted stuff in there I didn't even see and I was grousing the whole way home. Yeah but like what? Who cares? Oh let's see, they're on top of a 500 thousand foot trestle on a train The good guys have a sniper and Bond is fighting with some guy so she shoots under orders and misses the bad guy And hits Bond right in the chest knocks him off the trestle into the water He goes flying from five hundred feet splashes in

02:19 and then goes down like about a hundred feet dead, goes over a waterfall into a huge lake and sinks to the bottom. Five minutes later he's kissing some girl in India no explanation of how we got out of this mess whatsoever! And so you're telling me that you didn't catch that? What do you mean I didn't get caught it? No you said Eric DeShille... Wait a minute please just stop just stop i don't care I don't care. I just don't care. It's the worst movie, it's full of plot holes. Fine! That makes no sense. I just don't care and don't go there. I'm not gonna go...I don't care about movies very very few

03:05 I have other things to do. You know, um... I usually only go to movies that are in 3D! I'm producing the best podcast in the universe man. I got no time for this bullcrap. Oh get back to work really, you're gassing with me And it was a lot of work since we last spoke because of course any anything anywhere you look everyone's starting to do their year-end stuff And it's like, because usually I watch my Rubenesque friend Candy Crowley. Who actually is a little beyond Rubenesque she's not really Rubenesque she just plump You know, and then she always has the same shills on Sunday morning. And she would do like a retrospective about four people leaving the Senate, you know, Barney Frank and they're all pontificating as like, oh really? We're going to get all these students CNN is we're gonna do our heroes of 2012. It's incredibly annoying. Of course, we love our lists gotta do our list at the end of the year

04:08 That's because it is the easiest thing in the world to do if you're in an editorial position. You gather around the table and make stuff up! Yeah, exactly! That's how we roll. It's exactly how we roll. I had a nice little meeting yesterday in town at Halcyon here in Austus...Austis? In Austas Texan. I like Austas. Austas Texan. Sir GQ one of our knights happened to be in the area And he came after my market visit at the farmer's market to have a coffee and say hi. Let's put it this way, Sir GQ first of all handsome man! Now we know why we call him Sir GQ He looks like a GQ model

04:57 You guys must have looked like a couple of characters then, if you know what I mean. Wink wink nudge nudge right through the... Oh by the way that's another thing about the James Bond movie now they hint he is gay! Oh really? In the James Bond movie?! Now i gotta go see it. Is he at least bi-curious? Yeah definitely you definitely have to see that. Is he bi curious or full on gay? Well apparently according to Eric DeShill... I don't care! I just don't care. I don't So anyway, sir GQ looking really good he's training In the area and we kind of agreed that this would be the last time it would ever meet in person Because when he gets into his next position He won't be able to talk to me as openly and frankly but he's uh, he told me a lot about this 35 Quebec And this is the yeah This is the new elite cyber unit that they're putting together in the in the armed forces 35 Quebec

05:55 And you have, this is a new MOC. I think it's MOC? MOS? It's like a new position and they're recruiting and he says it's unbelievable how big this thing is going to be 35 Quebec which is the new cyber command. Did he pronounce Quebec because that was really the way he pronounced it? He said Quebec. That's the way I say it too. But even if you listen to the pilots, they all say Quebec I don't think they I think that they kind of put the UW sound in there. Anyway he was telling me about all this stuff that can be done and everything their doing and who's fighting who And he'd say it's real man The Israelis are the worst They're number one when it comes to cyber warfare

06:47 Then it's us and then it's the Russians and then it's the Chinese And of course the Chinese are always put up front and center whenever they're talking about it in Congress. So you Chinas? Who were the Chinese are gonna do it, but according to him It's the Israelis who are really the worst that makes nothing but sense and he's telling me about Thing about all the viruses right this Stuxnet and then flame According to him flame is actually the virus that can get into your phone and activate, you know remotely so they can turn on your phone or microphone or camera or locate. He said it was flame that does that. Have you heard anything about this? Nope not at all I just keep putting a piece of gaffer's tape over every camera in the house. You know well that is indeed real security against the camera part

07:41 But the microphone is still gonna activate. Yeah, I'm not giving away that much to myself! I don't sit around talking to myself! Yeah but Mimi's around maybe you guys are talking stuff? Yeah we talk about the buttermilk... Hey Mimi did you hide all the cash?! Yes! All the cash!? We got the cash in there in the can! So he was telling me about all this cool stuff that could be done and yeah I'm like okay so is PGP good encryption? He says hell no He says totally compromised and even if it wasn't compromised, NSA has computers they can crack anything within at the most a matter of hours just by brute force if they really want it. But he says PGP pretty much compromised the only thing that was completely secure because I'm just trying to find out what's secure and what's insecure is this thing called Iron Key. And Iron Key is where you put the data onto a special kind of USB disk

08:44 And I'm not quite sure exactly how it works, but you know so you can't transfer over the internet. You have to physically hand it off. But if you try to open up the iron key USB disk then then itself destructs and and if you tried to decrypt something more than 10 times at low level formats is all this really interesting conversation. Available at IronProtector dot com! Really? Did you Google it? I thought you were just sitting there listening to me. No, i never listen to you. I'm always googling and trying to catch ya. Iron key...Iron Key. Data Identity Workspace Mobile Security Solutions from IMation. Oh that's interesting the disk drive company. He says it reacts like a disk drive or acts like one. Anyway he said iron key is the only thing

09:34 that is really secure because you have to have it in your physical possession and then you really have to know what you're doing otherwise it destroys whatever information was on it. And then here comes the best, so I'm like well...I'm thinking there's other ways and he says that funnily enough the best way to communicate across distance etc Is where they're no longer paying attention. He says they've completely stopped listening to amateur radio They don't listen to this they don't teach guys Morse code anymore he says if you really want to do something Do it there out in the open because no one's listening his ham Radio is the perfect place to do it In Morse code a more in Morse code yeah, I've been practicing all weekend

10:22 How you doing? Good actually, and you know what I got for Android. Remember there was a joke that I think it was maybe year ago they had like I think LL Cool J was in the commercial Google did a joke about they're gonna do a Morse code keyboard Do you remember this it did the rounds? I do not remember this at all And I said it would be something I'd note It was yeah, I supposed to be gmail key home on parody Hold on, okay. You would have known this John come on Gmail It was last year LL Cool J was even in the commercial it was funny hold a second Let me see if I can find this for you Oh, it was gmail tap is what it was it wasn't April Fool's joke come on? You didn't hear about this. It was no I write April Fools gags They don't read them okay well let me play this video for you and let's see if we can

11:16 Jog your memory a little bit. Hold on, it's taking its sweet time to play thanks to all the crap that is on the internet here we go. Technology is everywhere today and everyone has a smartphone Think about the size of that device and two inches, two and a half inches. And we're trying to cram an entire 26-key keyboard into that space It's so many keys I feel constricted by the keyboard I just feel very overwhelmed there are so many buttons it's time to think about how can we do this better using the technology that we have today And that's where Gmail tap comes in. A better way to type! I've always known that I was related to Samuel FB Morse He is my great-grandfather's grandfather's brother When Reed Morse first came into my office... So this goes on for like two minutes but essentially they replaced Yeah, now I saw this you're right But this exists so of course there are three apps That you can get from the Google Play Store That actually give you a Morse keyboard with just a DIT and a DA

12:18 And I've been using that for the past two days. It's great, it's a great way to practice and when you think about it, you know, it's much safer if you're driving and you want to text somebody You don't have to look at your keyboard, just go b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b- And then, who was telling me someone... Someone was telling me that there's a ring in the works. I thought this what a great night promotionist would be A ring that communicates through, I guess Bluetooth with your phone

12:58 And you can literally, you're tapping the ring and it's then sending text messages to your phone. And the ring will vibrate when the messages come back. I want to see you using this! Well, I have been using...I swear to God, I have been using the Morse Code keypad and it is really cool. I love it. So I'm getting pretty happy with that. Did you know Samuel Morse by the way was a great oil painter? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, seminal actually Well, I'm sure that if you had an original Samuel Morse it would be valuable regardless. No no no he was considered an important painter. I don't know how... I get how we got into the other thing yeah it's very important okay If you look at any history of art book he is in there big time anyway

13:46 Uh, so uh... So yeah. So once again I'm ahead of the curve and on the trend and i'm seeing this happening all over we've got the kids going back to vinyl you know my daughter showed up with here the other day? Vinyl! No. Was she- And she was wearing it. No a Polaroid camera Oh, God. You can't even get the film! You have to buy antique film? Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah! You are wrong sir. This is Fuji... I think it's Fujitsu or Fuji makes a new Polaroid camera. John really that keyboard is so loud and they have a very wide polaroid film they sell with it

14:27 So not the, not the old school. No they don't sell the old film so we can buy an OLD Polaroid. No it's new! It's a new film but its still the Polaroid system Yeah, but it doesn't have the Polaroid dimensions. Can I put in an old Polaroid? No! That's the whole point... What point are you trying to make?! Well here is the point that i'm trying to make if you really want to know Generally speaking most people build these cameras and then they sell the film And they make all their money on the film So why don't you make the film backward compatible I ask you Because there making their own films The kids want this new dimension They dont want the old dimension They want a new dimension

15:05 It's not the reason? Yes, because... The new- Oh! This is this little picture is too wide. Give me a break Okay and then I heard about the kids are doing all kinds of stuff man that do the kids yeah Yeah, yeah why you hanging with the kids you learn something have your kids You're talking about her in their 20s. Yeah, they're kids have you heard about primitive skills courses let me think Gee, your brain is really loud today John. Yes at the wilderness college dot com? But this is big primitive skills courses it's like

15:45 Kids are going out because they have no money and they know they're gonna be living on the street pretty soon They're taking these courses on how to make fire. Oh, this is a good 14 day primitive living for a 14-day primitive living course price seventeen hundred twenty five dollars there are cheaper ones available unreliably That's the yuppie version anyway anyway Let me then just say that there is actually some real news that surprised me. It was about a little less than four years ago, President Obama was inaugurated

16:27 as the 44th president of the United States of America and Something happened which led you my friend My partner in this in this entire venture known as the best podcast in the universe to say something to this day You still believe to be true? Do you know what I'm referring to? It could either be the two Obamas. That would be the one, that's exactly what i'm talking about So President Obama had 2 inaugurations and we found this rather strange but then came up with your theory which I think you hold too that there are two Obamas And they both had to be sworn in to both be legal correct Yeah! That was the idea so guess whats happening on January 20 2013 They're gonna have 2 swearing ins again Yes they are

17:16 Why? Well, because there's two Obamas. Well yes and the way they're selling it is because the 20th falls on a Sunday they're going to do a private ceremony on Sunday and then the day following on the 21st are going to use a public ceremony have you ever heard of such malarkey You know, what's interesting about this. This reminds me of the every year during Ramadan or one of these... Yeah where he was Muslim holy thing He is not wearing his watch and ring? He takes his watches and rings off And then he disappears and doesn't eat And does all those muslim stuff He looks thin! Everybody says hey it's just a coincidence Every year is the same thing In fact if you google this

18:03 Every year it happens in every and if you google it you see what you see a story on happening every year No, no first of the previous story. Hold on a second I think only one of the two Obama's is a Muslim This is where I think this is why I think it gets complicated because they're always talking about You know The shop that watches in the shop like how many times have you ever brought your watch to repairs? Yeah, and once a year at the same time. I've never taken a watch in for repair ever! Like you totally toss it out if it's not working. Maybe in the 1800s. John where is your watch? My watch was in for repairs good man but I was surprised that they're going to do it again and are we the only people who think this is because there's two Obamas

18:50 I'm sure we are. Yeah, probably yeah but nobody pays any that's just the way you want to do it Nobody even thinks that there's anything screwy going on no It's just like okay that makes total sense you know it's a Sunday We can't have an inauguration on a Sunday? I don't know why heaven forbid who maybe it is a heaven thing No hmm and this deads when you get maybe it's because of a football game oh When's the Super Bowl That's a good question. I think the Super Bowl now is in February, but there'd be a playoff game on that Sunday Well can't we can't we isn't there some book of football knowledge you can consult let me see Sunday January 20th 2013 I have to say that no doubt about it He's interrupted football games before so they can't be that important. It's the NFC championship game could be

19:51 That's a done deal. Sunday, January 20th 2013 NFL NFC Championship game Yeah we can't have an inauguration on a Sunday Not if there is a championship game No! There is your answer But the fact that... but that one thing But then still because it has to be the twentieth for some reason I guess there is some constitutional reason It has to be on the twentieth? I think it says in the Constitution. No, really? Well it's a no maybe and a white why is he not here let's ask a simple question okay once you uh I think this one I think you want the 20th amendment inauguration takes place in the commission of brother that every four years prior to the 20th amendment today was March 4th oh well here it is

20:47 According to the 20th Amendment, it says... That was too lame duckish. That's why they changed it The terms of the President and Vice-President shall end at noon on the twentieth day in January and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the third day of January so It has to be on the twentyth Why can't it be before then? Well no because then you would basically have two Presidents and two Vice-Presidents Because their term ends But if its the same guy What difference does it make? That's a good point. You could do it on Saturday or Friday for that matter. Right, or you know could just do it on Monday and would just be without a president for half the day whoop-dee-doo big deal. Well somebody needs to have the red button we don't want Nancy Pelosi with the red button No Valerie Jarrett carries the briefcase man what are you talking about Nancy Pelosi doesn't do anything

21:45 So anyway, but I thought it was very interesting that they are going to do a small inauguration privately on Sunday and then have a public one on Monday. I find that to be suspicious at the least especially since you alerted me to the fact there were quite possibly two President Obamas. Well okay, its one for the red book. What are you gonna put in? I was right. Correct again! So, I'm up here in Canada and I think that... You're not even Canadian. Not really in Canada but might as well be. So much a lot of Canadian stuff yeah so I'm up here and I think there may be some connection to our show in the Canadian area and the Canadians always want us to do more Canadian stuff so I have a good

22:34 I have a couple good things here. I'm gonna play one of them Okay, please I have a question about Canada and then the answer to the question about Canada And I think you'll be I mean I do this is the question first you answer it and then oh actually don't even try to Am I allowed am I allowed to Take a shot at it. All right. Let's go your questions The waters of Canada's west coast support more than 9600 what? ninety six hundred Oh, can you repeat the question Alex? It was what there's 9600 of some thing in this okay. Okay species of salmon The waters Canada's west coast support more than 9600 watt Charlie severed feet

23:30 And this is their version of Jeopardy or is it a comedy show? That's good. There was a snappy answer holy crap I can't believe I didn't answer that I was hoping you I was I was fearful that you might I could have come close to that I Was actually taking you serious as a good one, and that's a good one in fact I'm gonna give it to your early you know It is premature. No, I'm gonna give it to you early. You...it's been a while since you made me go into a loud roar of laughter

24:08 And by the way, could you thank you Buzzkill Jr. for filling up my screen with information about the presidential inauguration? He does that he does that Does he do this like just for normal things You say did you take out trash on a daily basis Did you take out the trash and he'll give you the history of garbage Does he do this? He's done that a couple times because it's you know, you go from the history of garbage and how different it is from the way It isn't France great Well anyway, a very hearty in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Well in the morning to you Adam Currie and all ships that see boots on the ground feet in the water and subs in the air also In the morning to all the Knights and dames out there Yes indeed knights and dames And of course our artists who are always filling up no agenda art generator calm Thank You Neil Campbell for the arts on even though it was in a picture of our two heads which we discourage and do not use

25:05 Anymore, so please do not think this is a signal that it's okay to use our heads again because we find that quite boring and tedious It was the best piece of art. So we appreciate that you did that for us And always yeah We went the first couple years with nothing but pictures of our heads and it became very old I did Did just like oh really? Really more heads And in the morning to all the human resources there in our chat room All lined up charged up ready-to-go know it's in a stream calm no agenda chat net good to have you all on board Of course we might as well go straight into our do. We have a producer today is that without?

25:45 We have one executive producer and two associates. Because as predicted, after a great Thanksgiving we basically had... oh wait I had a jingle for that. Where is it? We had our own version of the fiscal cliff. It's a jingle! A new jingle. Our fiscal cliff Uh, we are on the f- this is the fiscal cliff is real people and it's in our donations. Erwin Vro- uh, Vrolick. This is actually a very good well pronounced Frolick is how we would... Frolick in Dordrecht And you know what Frolick means? It means frolic in the grass Very close! It means happy

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27:05 Copping to it for sure, but at this point you've got to think that it's almost collusion just To get people to they get a piece of the action from AT&T. It's totally corrupt Do you do you think they get a piece of the data action my my understanding is they get a piece of the whole bill? Wow well then then its Its Rico this is Rico This is a Rico case class-action Rico because it's telephony and Well, it's not that they haven't been warned by you. I mean if i was a lawyer and they did even and you can see that Apple's iOS has something to do with it And then they get money and I have emailed they could just cite your uh? I am complaining. I've had email communications with people inside the company who By the way chat room yes there is a 6.1 in beta okay which I have seen and it has not been fixed

28:01 I have emailed people inside the company who have not gotten back to me, who usually get back to me. So there's something up because you know what that is going on? I said hey man this would you gotta check this out and said here's where you need to look yeah i'll go check on that and then it's complete radio silence from people who normally get back to me so there's something apple internally knows and they're afraid of a huge lawsuit because once you release something With a problem like this, it's not like you can't automatically upgrade people to fix the problem. You see? Um, this thing is going to be out here for the next two years until people are finally... In fact probably not until another phone comes out will we really see this start to drop off. Because how many people do you know who use an iPhone who are like oh yeah I can't wait to upgrade it to the next version? No most people using iPhones are like just like big button push! Push big button get web browser! I like app! That's people that use iPhones

29:04 Yeah, there you go. Right? That's been my experience So this is a problem that won't go away and they know it So your show keeps me sane, he says. In my daily commute bearable I believe bad times are ahead and only by listening to your show can I get ahead enough of the curve to beat the rest during in the dark times. Oh! I'm even starting my ham exam preparations. I find it hard to put a monetary value on the tremendous value you provide so i chose my birthday 309 81 3rd September 81 which is numerology wise

29:45 Hold on a second. Wait a minute, stop the press same birthday as Adam not the same year I'm also September 3rd well that's peculiar mm-hmm how about that huh? All three squares will see for yourself. I'm now working as a network CIS admin for an oil and gas company operating on the North Sea We're at the unit that actually gets the stuff out of the seabed, unless we are far away from pipeline politics You are the best source to find out whether it'll be controlled by the Germans or the Russians next year I don't think karma is something you ask for but i'll happily receive any karma you're willing to give me I do have a ringtone request which is the following

30:27 I'm building up a whole new Jingle soundboard so I have all the things that people ever request and of course did not have the bell on it Okay, I can try can do the belt. It's gonna be said it's not gonna be dying being it's gonna be ding-ding No, no, I couldn't do well like I can't do a ding-ding thing I can do Yeah, yeah, I'll do the couple bells And then what do I have in the middle few times but followed by the little girl yay hot milf

31:14 Oh, okay. Yeah I'm uh...I'm good to go. Ready? Yeah. Yay! That's one hot loaf baby And did he want a karma? Because he said, he didn't really want to car. We happily take it Karma but I don't think you wanted as the ringtone request. Here comes here comes up. You've got karma. I've also separated. You've been deduced from douchebag finally those two are now in different places by the way give it let me give your ringtones just go to Sanford and get your ringtone you might wanna use one of these is anybody out there you this is a freebie ready hey answer the phone onward

31:56 That ringtone will come back to haunt you for years You know I did a CD once It was for one of the magazines and it came with, it was a free CD of my saying a bunch of one liners for Apple. Oh really? Mac users yeah and somebody still has a copy that I'd like to get back. Mark Borghese in Las Vegas, Nevada 22222 Russian, whoops let me get this thing back why because I can get a parliament mumble little girl shut up slave in the morning. Hold on second lemme

32:36 I'm just adding some. I'm adding stuff as we go We might as well do it right because I forgot that people also sometimes want the in the mornings on there, I mean seriously Right they want all of them. It's not easy okay So where are we at? Where'd shut up slow a little girl shut up slave in the morning? In the morning... Tight! No, it's not tight at all. I'm getting used to where everything is on the new soundboard It'll be a slow show in that regard. It's good because we don't have a lot to do Scott Mulkenthein in Seddon Victoria 207 33 Scott from Melbourne nuts Hey Shittison I have a semi-bonerish story sorry

33:29 I've been a semi-boner. This is my, it's just a joke get it? This was only my second donation. I donated 50 bucks in March when I was living in Tokyo and 5% of my tax return which that was larger than usual because I'd been so sick. Sorry what was that? It was Miki laughing at the joke Which I was larger than usual because i've been so sick, I was able to claim medical expenses as a tax deduction. Yay disease! As a result my employment has been unstable but my temporary slave contract was just extended by full two months So here's 20732. I'm kicking in the extra penny to make it 20733 Why? Because 33 is the magic number Please de-douche me as they didn't ask for one last time and give me some jobs jobs jobs yay for jobs karma You've been de-douched

34:17 I can't find it. I'm liking this new system! I can't find it, I put in here... Slick! I'm going back to the old school way man this is no good hold on a second let me try this again I'm sorry yeah maybe sometimes you just don't need to fix things that aren't broken what do you want he wanted and de douche jobs jobs job yay karma Is that it? Yeah, but this is the YAY. It's the one-it's the oldest and Nancy Pelosi once got the yay built in Oh okay Okay, okay I got it here we go You've been D2 jobs Jobs Jobs And jobs Let's vote for jobs! Yeah, I'm back I'm back baby I'm just gonna use the old system screw it Apparently Screw the new system That's no good

35:14 Well, at least you got a dry run in. Yeah well now we know. Very dry I might add. That's it right? That's all we got that's all we have. Matt I'd like to remind people to go to Dvorak.org as we fall off the incline come Cliff go to dvorak.org slash NA for next Thursday show would appreciate some response here also channel dvorak dot com slash na noagendashow dot com and noagenanation dot com there is donate buttons if you can't get to the real one which is dvork.org slash NA And I was going to answer NBC1's question in the chat who says, any way to listen to the podcast without the donation segments? Yes. First of all there is this thing that I think Steve Jobs invented called the fast forward button it's an amazing or you could just do that and then miss possible real entertainment embedded within We have some gems in it we always inject some gems

36:13 But that's okay if you want to skip past that. That's okay, if you don't care... You don't think our listeners' comments are worth listening too? I think many of them are quite interesting! Many of them very insightful and full of real nuggets of information but oh no this is very typical very typical of a generation what is it Generation Y? What are we at now millennium? Millennials? It's the cheap the generation cheapo generation Can't get a job, Generation. I don't know what they are. Generation Boner is what we shall call them but you can go out now and propagate our formula boners! Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, shut up slaves! Alright can I just say something right now?

37:13 I'm hit it. I'm really, really sick and tired now. It's one thing you want to go drone Americans there in Indianapolis okay but the buck stops when you're droning strippers okay? This has got to stop! No strippers were hurt in this droning Yeah but they'd drone their place of work I wish i asked you why weren't they there working when they got droned this is bull crap thank you very much for pointing that out it's 5 30 in the afternoon scores opens for lunch come on yeah there's strippers at lunch and they stay and they work through the afternoon all through the night.

37:54 But, I've heard... So what do you think is really going on? Now because there is no real explanation for these things my explanation of local US droning is just as valid as everybody else's. I got an explanation. Okay, well I'm all ears Well, both of these things have been attributed to gas pipelines exploding and now there's been a couple of overseas examples. And this is all part of the let's redo the infrastructure of the USA if you want to look for a meme look for the hundred year old infrastructure right? Hundred-year-old pipes hundred year old water mains hundreds years old hookers we need new hookers because they're all too old in this and they're no good so

38:41 I would agree with you certainly on this one, but do you have to... does it have to and well i guess It does have to be drastic. This is how we do things these days. You gotta do something big. We hurt a few people didn't kill anybody this time I find it very, very peculiar indeed that there were no strippers in scores. That's crazy! Between at happy hour and all else... And how come not one newscaster these guys are paid to do this? Not one newscaster asked a simple question where were the strippers? Where was the strippers?! How come we don't have strippers being interviewed you know i can see and here Chanel

39:21 I was so happy that i wasn't in the bar and the DJ hadn't called my name. Right? That's about it, you nailed that! Maybe there was an interview maybe we just haven't seen it. No no no, here is what we have to do...I have to put a request out there this is something we did but I think two or three years ago okay requesting it again all right if anybody has a sling box I would like to link to it and i need a better network than we developed last time. So send me the information about the slingbox you have that

40:00 so I can, you can put it in this there's a piece of software you could run on your computer saying look at your sling box and I won't interfere with the slingbox during working hours or when you're using. I don't know how popular the slingbox still is? I don't know if people are still using them. Are they really still as big as they are? They're advertising still. I think they're doing okay now The reason why i'm still going to hold onto my uh... and like the infrastructure thing I'd I'd I think here you probably right on its very radical to do this But there's two things first of all I think they're laughing at us because first of all we have where did this take place? Massachusetts right but then they've upped the number from 28 houses being demolished in Indianapolis to 33 Now, I mean really

40:58 Mean this is like come on. I mean it was 28 we talked about 28 on Thursday, and then just hours later Oh no It's 33 now. I mean that means somethings up Now the thing we have to do is figure out what PR agencies behind? It's obviously some Bechtel or one of these big construction companies that needs these business some business They need some work because we're shutting down Iraq right a rock so you rock Iraq here I'm looking now if there's former stripper. No, that's the hot dog stripper You're right not a single person interviewed a stripper how crazy is that? It's like the perfect human interest story Yeah Everybody likes to see a stripper being interviewed but I mean it seriously even women But when I think women especially like it because they look at you tell you they are stupid yeah, but then Meanwhile, they're looking at fashion tips like okay That's what I got aware and so it turns my man on

41:59 So I'm but I'm reading through the news report to 42 buildings that apparently scores was ground zero for this thing. Yeah, we should be seeing g-string strippers all right? I mean there should be they should just be strippers blown to bits but no So they knew clearly they were in on the deal, which makes sense because you know guys that run these kinds of businesses can probably be on the inside of things. But apparently the workers were at the scene John check this out The workers were at the scene They're like oh no she's gonna blow they hide behind a truck Okay The thing blows 42 houses away but these guys are like yeah then went to the hospital but they're gonna be okay

42:43 Mean come on you're hiding behind a truck 42 homes were demolished, but your truck is okay. I mean come on This sounds weird They just pushing their luck here But it public is so stupid and they buy in there okay? Oh that's 100 year old infrastructure you watch the hundred-year meme is all the place put that into the book hundred year old in frost structure well I am starting to...I don't see it as a, really see it as a big meme yet about infrastructure. Yeah, 100 years old, 100 years old you're right okay put that in the book The Hundred Year Old Infrastructure Book yeah so I'm starting to understand how I mean of course I don't know everything I'm just a disc jockey but now I'm learning too and what I'm learning is there are certain things you just got to shut up about like the military

43:42 You know, if we actually reduced our military spending which is part of what the fiscal cliff is right? They're going to stop. There's going to be spending significantly less while significantly isn't you know it just what is it a hundred billion or something like that I think there's more than that It's quite a bit. It's got to look at them Yeah Is that 400 billion or something? Yeah, but that's pretty much what we do you see That's why no. That's all we got that's where I are a giant Empire of military like like Rome and we have a military that's huge It's it's beyond huge I mean when and Mickey now were talking about this the other day before she left me all alone for Thanksgiving You know I said We traveled around the country done it twice now. We're gonna do a third year West Coast

44:29 And we have met, majority of people we've met work in the military or the military industrial complex one way or another. That is what we do and if were not doing that then were in drug business. So yeah thats basically it. Armaments drugs military soldiering and strippers. And fast food yes and some strippers And that's it. Yeah, the strippers are a part of the deal So and I mean...I find it unfortunate that we you know That we have to go all over the world blowing people up But making this stuff and selling it I'm all for that kind of I guess that's what you do You know The big drug dealer he's got you know He's gotta be armed and gotta be able to protect himself And the big arms dealer You don't want to sell too much to one guy so they can come back and take your stuff It just has to be big and ugly and oafish And that is what we do

45:19 And until we all wake up and say, hey we're not going to do this anymore. It's going to continue forever nothing will change Nothing Well I don't see how we can go back to the old ways This is so much money to be made Its so much fun too Well, you feel like blowing things up it is. Yeah! It's beautiful We've always liked blowing things up apparently Americans But we sold another... did I tell you that? So we sold another... Another THAAD I think you mentioned on Thursday Right, another THAAD Another six and a half billion dollars to Saudi Arabia Three-and-a-half billion dollars for gear three billion for other I mean come on don't you why wouldn't you want to be in other That's great Other And here's how it works By the way, I would recommend

46:02 A great career path is to get into the military, you know get into cyber obviously. Cyber's where it's at do a couple years Do a couple tours or you know go for the full was it 20 before you can retire I think twenty years Get out and then go do the exact same job So you get your full pension which includes everything except the housing allowance? I think Then go do the same job for 250 to $300,000 a year. Yeah blackwater or these other companies yeah and you can do it just in an office you know it's not like anywhere crazy but you may have maybe deployed to the green zone Iraq or something yeah but I know guy working in the Green Zone never leaves it so the Surge EQ was telling me about Djibouti and how they're this is where they launch everything in Africa from Djibouti and

46:57 OLC operation I think was OLC he said Operation Lion not Lion King that's what I remember Operation Lion King it was Operation lion something And they deploy everything from Djibouti. And right now, you know we're doing it... We're droning people the other tribe in Somalia because basically the way it works in Somalia is there's two tribes fighting against each other and the one tribe that has said to us hey if you protect us then we'll give you the drilling rights for the oil those are the guys were for and we're droning the other guys all from Djibouti It's crazy! So I mean so we take our military

47:37 and all our stuff, and we rent it out to these other people. And then we operate it. We drone some saps. Then we go take the oil! I mean... We are the biggest a-holes on the planet basically. We like our oil But what's funny of course is the three trillion barrels that seem to be sitting under North Dakota. Yeah, you know the number there? The shale oil. Well oil shale or shale ore one of two. There are actually two different things anyway they there's 3 trillion barrels did you know what the total consumption of all the oil

48:19 Has been since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. I mentioned this exact thing to you on Thursday It's 1 trillion barrels, and I thought you forget it was a test So, I can test you failed that. I pass! Yes. Oh you didn't pass? So peak oil was not true Can we just establish that peak oil was a lie? Who thought it was? There are a lot of people... All the same people who think a lot of stuff is true Science is in Well here's what happening now Science! New report came out from the UNEP These are these guys at United Nations kind like the new

48:59 the new guys on the block who, um... ...who are doing all the climate change stuff. So, remember the report I told you about? The World Bank Report. And this is maybe two shows ago about the world heating up four degrees. This is the new meme. Yeah that's classic. Let's just change numbers around make it up! Alright so listen to how the media is responding to this report A new report claims if the world greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced a doomsday scenario could be in our not-so distant future Doomsday!!!

49:35 A World Bank report has warned that global temperatures could rise by 4 degrees Celsius by the end of this century. The report says if we don't do something now, by 2100 coral reef ecosystems will disappear sea levels will rise up by 3 feet and the 22nd century will be characterized by wild weather drought and famine. The report is called Turn Down the Heat It claims other effects could include extreme heat waves during almost all summer months that would be specifically pinpointed to the Mediterranean, North Africa Middle East and parts of the United States. Severe impacts on agriculture water resources human health biodiversity and ecosystem I mean...I don't know which jingle to play! I'll play... So what's it for? Hold on hold on To the gate to the gate to the climax

50:25 Just let me play a little more of this report, John. A little more. This is so beautiful. Which could lead to large-scale displacement of populations The report also predicts the poorest people in the world will pay the highest price because of their inability to adapt to drastic climate change Now this is where they go wrong I mean... So I totally get scaring people about drought and severe weather And people moving from one state to another and we're going to drown The mistake is it's going to affect the poorest people. Oh, screw those guys who gives a crap about them as long as it's not me! Maybe this... What? I'm just saying maybe that's exactly the point that they're trying to do That's the real communication They're saying look we're gonna give you this report It's gonna screw the poor people so don't get worked up about

51:12 Interesting. Let me listen to the rest of this report. ... says, countries that are poorer and less technologically advanced will surely suffer the worst consequences of climate change as evidenced by the way such areas are hit by natural disasters Yeah like New York and New Jersey some of the poorest...poorest people in the world. President of World Bank Group Jim Yong Kim explains implications on future generations Listen to this guy This guy is great You know I have a three-year old son And when he's my age Oh. We're inundated with water. World Bank is currently helping 130 countries mitigate climate change. For Newsy, I'm Jasmine Bailey- Yeah and so that will also be uh... So what's coming of course is the carbon tax in America. Yes it's all about carbon taxes. And by the way can we just repeat our basic thesis here? If you want to stop all this carbon emission why don't you just cap it

52:25 They won't do that. It's always cap and trade, cap and trade in other words they don't change anything but then they tax you for it. It's a scam it's a money grab. Explain CAP? Well in other words you say here I am I've got I'm gonna put out 100 tons of CO2 but I'm only allowed to put out 85 ton so I got 15 tons that then we didn't have to pay money to push out which makes no sense because it seems to me that you wouldn't just have to stop or get your you'd just be put out of business or something is that dangerous But instead they trade it with some guy who is allowed to put out 85 tons, but he's only putting out 10 tons. And so you buy 15 of his tons. This doesn't change anything! No What has changed? Al Gore just got richer. Ah! Uh-huh This report was even better though this is the voice of America which still exists apparently

53:16 Yeah, I know. Voice of America does video now. The first decade of this century was the hottest on record and the vast majority of scientists attribute the changes to greenhouse gases. Hold on a second... That trapped heat in the lower atmosphere Those gases can be generated naturally or emitted by human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels. Extreme weather due to climate change is the new normal. Yeah, there it is! There it is... extreme weather due to climate change IS the new normal Please. And then listen to this report how they lie about, just listen to the lies. So now I think she just said extreme weather because of global warming is the new normal and that is what Ban Ki-moon said did I hear that correctly?

54:13 Don't know I you know, it was so confused or structure that. I don't know really if she said that let's hear it again generated naturally Or emitted by human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels Extreme weather due to climate change is the new normal said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said you and Earlier this month what he says remains clear and urgent To reduce greenhouse gas emissions, to strengthen adaptation to the even larger climate shocks we know are on the way no matter what we do. And to reach a legally binding climate agreement by 2015 as states agreed last year in Durban

54:57 Honestly, I don't know what Bunky Moon said. He didn't say the new normal that's for sure! But I didn't hear the words new or normal anything like so they're just lying this is how they do it They they mean this is actually a very good system here. Yeah, I'm gonna show you how this works Hold on let me let me let me do it for you Oh yeah hold on I got to cue him up here hold on. General Bunky Moon earlier this month okay According to UN Secretary General, the No Agenda Show is now officially the best podcast in the universe said UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon. What challenges remains clear and urgent That's correct And now in other news I mean that's how you do it You play the guy saying something you can't understand and like okay

55:42 Yeah, well that's like the question is. The main question is the NOAA agenda shows the greatest podcast in the universe. Technically it's best not greatest. What did I say? You said greatest Oh what if the greatest but at the best of the best although there is no category this year as was promised There's no category for a Best Podcast In The Universe just while we're on the drones real quick I'm going back to the drones actually. For some reason everyone's like all up in arms, and i don't know who broke this credible news at the White House before the election they were hurrying to create a drone rule book because the president didn't you know wanted to freeze the current way so that potentially...I guess the inference is that if Romney became president he would go crazy out

56:40 the drones. Meanwhile, they've basically created a rule book on drones people don't you see what's going on here? They're solidifying the use of drones and making President Obama look like the good guy like he's tempered in how is using them I mean please this isn't an outrage an outrage and everyone's buying it always so cool as it was so secret that created the rulebook because didn't want to know like a different guy to come in and kill people with drones Wow. So, uh yeah so I got a bunch of here's the problem i just realized that made a mistake up for today show oh

57:20 What did you do? Well, I told you. You said all your clips are in early. Yeah, I pre-produced them. In other words during the week as I got the clips, I produced them and then you got him ready for shipment as opposed to what I normally do which is I get up at 630 or 7 in the morning and then do all that...I have all the clips clipped but then I produce them in the morning. Yeah what did you do wrong What I did wrong was, I pre-produced them so i've got all these clips. I have no idea what they're about! You don't know what the clips are? Okay... Well, I mean, I got it but I know kind of thematically there's a couple clips for sure that I know what they're about but I really do not know what the Lindsey Graham Benghazi clip is here for or what it says well let's have a listen because It'll fit into something somewhere we know where Benghazi is and We know that uh we have our theory So Lindsey Graham I guess Is along with Senator McCain

58:12 Going to filibuster Condoleezza Rice coming in as secretary of state. Not Condoleezza Rice! Susan Rice That's the issue for me, was she telling us honestly and openly about the best intelligence or were they trying to shade The Benghazi attack? To give the best political explanation which would have been a spontaneous event not a pre-planned terrorist attack I'm glad you brought up the president because you sent him a letter uh... and you pointed out to him that he has not responded to thirteen congressional requests for information on ben gazi do you want to say something

58:49 Yeah, that's what the clue is about. Apparently they've gotten a bunch of requests and both the Congress really has the power of investigation and a lot of other things they can do and they are letting Obama administration just tell them to shove it. The Obama Administration is telling Congress to shove it! They did with the Holder event and now they're doing it again I think the holder his name is the holder It's interesting you bring this up because you can now see Who is sucking up to the president? And you know who's really, really sucking up? Our favorite Eleanor Norton Holmes. Now do you recall that we had Congresswoman Fudge

59:31 Come out and several others saying oh, it's racist. It's sexist these guys just don't want us to succeed because she's black and because she's a woman and then Holmes came out And I went back and watched her entire speech She did could see what she rushed on stage read her thing Just a reminder as the fact that she was actually reading and is an idiot Here's what? She read of the Senate seemed to be unable to contain themselves while we await two ongoing investigations into the tragic attacks in Bengali Libya which took a lot of... She's such an idiot and she is so out of touch, she doesn't even know that it is Benghazi. And she just reads Bengali So she was asked on Megan I think from... What her name? Megan from Fox News, Megan Kelly Yeah! She gets Norton on and says hey what was all this crap

1:00:23 And Norton, listen to what she says. I certainly don't. I don't call out sexism or racism unless i have some evidence. I can see why some would believe that. Uh...I gave the opening statement then had to go back to a hearing so I never even heard the rest but It's true she did leave right after she said Bengali The woman is a total blowhard nincompoop idiot So it's true, she did not say racism sexism. But now she is like oh crap what did them bitches say there while I was gone? Please do not ascribe those views to me. I think that she is being singled out coming out of the presidential campaign Could you put your tongue up Obama's butt any further Norton really? Eww! Sickening you

1:01:10 one of our committees, oversight and government reform in the middle of the presidential campaign at a recess had a hearing and she became the focus of that hearing. And I think that came out of sheer partisanship when you say 100 House members have sent a letter well they don't have anything to do with who's going to be nominated uh...to be Secretary of State You know when i see how they're moving that John Where the Congress is saying, you know... The letters weren't just get rid of Susan Rice. That's what I think your point is with this Lindsey Graham clip. The hundred letter from the congressmen and women was not just about get Susan Rice out of here No they're twisting that It was probably hey! What the heck happened? I don't have these letters Do you have a hundred letters? No

1:01:58 So don't you think that's what going on? Like they're just trying to deflect this. I think it is part of it, but also Congress is wimping out on this whole thing And then going back to the fight essentially...I went back and listened to what the President said about Susan Rice And I think you're right that it was a deliberate move by Hillary Clinton to just crush her, crush her. And I think the president is angry at Hillary in this clip not at Senators McCain and Libran but at Hillary listen. As represented the United States and our interests in the United Nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace as I've said before

1:02:45 She made an appearance at the request of the White House which by the way I've now discussed with several people who including sir GQ actually total bullcrap she works for the Secretary of State and that request would Ultimately it would have to be Hillary Clinton saying you go out, then you do this It's not in the but White House doesn't just get to bypass that easily in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And I'm happy to have that discussion with them but for them to go after the UN ambassador who had nothing to do with Benghazi? This by the way is very interesting to me

1:03:43 How do we know she had nothing to do with Benghazi? Well, let's take it at face value. If she had nothing to do... Nothing! ...to do with Benghazi why is she the spokesperson about Benghazi? Well this is factually even untrue because indirectly she had everything that we would not be in Benghazi without Susan Rice being the representative for the United States in the United Nations, which came up with a resolution to go bomb the crack out of Gaddafi. I think she had nothing...I'm totally agree with the President She had nothing to do with Benghazi so why? My argument is better one

1:04:22 She had nothing to do with Benghazi. She's a stooge, she has mouthpiece in the UN which is all you do there I'm sorry John i need to interject There is an ongoing ARB accountability review board two of them with the FBI and the Department of State The president cannot say she had nothing to do with it We will not know until those reports are in if she had anything to do with it He is presuming giving her innocence the same way he said Bradley Manning is guilty That's fine, I agree with that. But why is he saying she has nothing to do with it yet she was the spokesperson? How can you explain this discrepancy? Because he is covering for her obviously because she has everything to do with it! He's giving her a free pass! Sir... Well somebody's... UN ambassador who had nothing to do with Benghazi?! Nothing at all

1:05:11 and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? She was just doing the PowerPoint, man. Why is she doing the presentation in the first place? This has got Hillary written all over it. She has only copy of PowerPoint that's licensed. Jesus! Hey you guys gotta know the power... What are ya... PowerPoint 97 isn't compatible with this It won't open up my computer I can't show it Hey Rice, Rice can you do the new PowerPoint Yes I can And does besmirch her reputation? Besm- I love that word. Besmirch. Come here baby, I'm gonna besmirch all over you Can i use it that way is that a valid use of it? Yeah oh absolutely! That's the way the president meant it. It's outrageous! Outrageous I tell ya! Its not outrageous

1:05:56 How does he come up with outrageous? I've never been so outraged in my life by this situation. What a bunch of bull crap! That to me is so good that we should do this more often, you gotta go back and listen to something two weeks later because it's so much funnier in context when he says It's outrageous. You know what is outrageous? A million Iraqis killed, boys and girls Americans coming home with limbs blown off and their brains all scrambled That is outrageous Mr President! The fact that our banks are running on drug money being laundered through the biggest corporate entities in the financial world That's outrageous Mr President

1:06:39 That is outrageous. Not the fact that a couple of dudes... Pet peeves, you gotta stop me all the time. So let's finish off the Lindsey Graham Benghazi clip if you can? Yes, yes of course! Is the president in your judgment defying Congress' constitutional authority to oversee and investigate I think he's stonewalling the American people. There are two movies made about the president's leadership in the bin Laden raid, we have photos of the president in the Situation Room a minute by minute account of the president's leadership He deserves great credit for the Bin Laden Raid it was a gutsy call We have information about how he closed the deal on the recent ceasefire between the Israelis and Palestinians When it comes to Benghazi we've been given no information

1:07:28 about what he did for seven hours during the attack. He claims to have ordered the conflict to be secured, but we don't know anything about where that order was carried out. What's the president told about the April and June attacks on the conflict when The British closed their conflict in Benghazi because it was too dangerous. So he hasn't answered any of the basic questions about his leadership before, during and after the attack on our conflict in Benghazi is a massive national security failure." Yeah this kind of a dead end He's trying there this came out today that for CBS News The White House has now officially declined to release images from the night of the Benghazi attacks And so what you know I think he tried to do there was like

1:08:10 Well, when he brought down Osama Bin Laden we had the situation room and the president there with his flak jacket, everyone's like huddled around. It was command central and their heroes were going to kill Osama Bin Laden but they screw up then they don't want to show any pictures I think that is a dead end that he is pursuing. It's an obvious dead end CBS News is also seeking drone and ground level surveillance images and email communication documents from the night of the Benghazi attack. So far, I've never provided it. Congress can do whatever it wants! The congress can make that happen but they haven't got the guts! It's a gutless congress! No, but its not true because they tried this with THE HOLDER

1:08:48 on Fast and Furious, and they said executive privilege. They wouldn't indict him. They gave him a... Executive privilege. They didn't go to the final level indicting the guy subpoenaing him and throwing them in jail they could do that by the way I'm reliable contempt of Congress you can do that you could throw someone in jail citizens have been thrown in jail by Congress but these guys are gutless Have you seen Valerie Jarrett? Please! Stop fixing me on the LJ I'm reliably informed there were two drones flying over Benghazi before the attack. Before the attack! There's all kinds of video, and i'll tell you something else... That video is gonna get out that video is already in hands outside of government control it's unencrypted It's available and it's going to come out just how they're gonna play it is what I'm waiting for because You gotta play it right

1:09:42 There's ways to release this. Yeah, no it has to be... first you gotta let them dig a deep hole for themselves and then so there is just a pack of lies that they can't quite reverse because there will be too many of them and then you roll it out yeah thats what we do it I think if remember we had a show about a month or two ago where the guy predicted he didn't think Obama was going to finish out this term That guy that lives in Thailand, an investor. Oh um... what's his name? Yeah that guy. Yeah him. Can you get a clip of him too? Carter Shanti Charter I haven't looked at the old clips It was your clip man come on No but then you had the same clip from the same guy like in a week or two ago You should know who it is Anyway one other little Benghazi tidbit Okay You know the mistress of Petraeus and she gave that speech in Denver

1:10:35 She says well, you know is about these guys and the yeah at the at the Aspen conference She says give me okay. I'm getting parched she says that there was a CIA annex with some prisoners in it and everyone can there's no such thing yeah Play the CIA annex clip. So far there has been no military reaction from the United States and few suspects have been named or questioned by the Libyans three Libyan militants were handed over to Libyan authorities the night of the attack according to sources at the CIA Annex Oh really? At the CIA Annex, oh the one that doesn't exist Yeah, the one that doesn't exist they were handed over to them according to the CIA Annex

1:11:24 Can you get your story straight? Yeah. So this I learned so much from Sir GQ, then yeah this is an intelligence guy and i'm... I figured that out! Yeah hello but but these clips are now triggering more stuff he said he said that uh this is Broadwell Paula Broadwell that this was at the Aspen conference and he said the Aspen conference is where all these guys get together and they all get drunk and they all screw around That's when this all took place. That's when it really started to happen, but I mean you can imagine you're going to a conference You know you're there It's Allen's there What's his Petraeus and then what's the jabroni? Djibouti Jabroni Everybody's there and the other who is the defense secretary? And that's his name come on the old CIA guy was his name

1:12:13 Yeah, that guy and then Paula's there and then you getting sauced up and there's caviar And then she's looking hot. She's like I gotta further my career Can you imagine? I don't know if I'm strong enough John. I could resist it Especially where you drink One beer you're wasting. What is the Secretary of Defense in the name? Deborah Norville. Deborah Norville, what was that story where'd that come from? Deborah Norville I just did the name came to mind when i thought of Panetta's face

1:12:58 I know it makes no sense. She's you know kind of a pretty girl, and he's like this weird-looking character But that's what came to did he have sex with Deborah Norville Didi? I don't know wasn't there some wasn't there some? Orville there was coming there was some Controversy about Debra Deborah Norville yeah she was on today showing she got fired because nobody liked her And so she went off and made millions of dollars were doing The Inside Edition show or whatever it is Oh, she didn't like screw some guy who was Minister of Defense? Secretary of Defense or something? Maybe. I don't know that though. Okay funny. By the way somebody was also on our

1:13:40 I noticed this, I think it was Russia Today. We'd done this a few weeks ago about Obama and the stupid commentary he made on... Oh, about missiles? Yeah. This was either on Russia Today or it was some... Let me guess they heard something on a podcast somewhere and then it became theory for them or became like an item that we're going to talk about? That would make sense to me. And this was of course shut down when President Obama in Bangkok made his rather tasteless speech where he said that you know no people who have missiles falling on them, you know will not want to react. Which of course is news to people who are being fired on by US drones. You say well can we fire back? I mean is it legitimate

1:14:27 So, when American complicity is not part of the story. You know for instance Susan Rice at the United Nations blocking any attempt at creating a statement condemning the war At that point you lose track of the idea that US complicity or US backing gives Israel essentially impunity to continue the occupation and to continue its kind of bombardment So I got a note from, I think Wired Pig one of our producers out there and he said that it is not correct. Obama said...I'm looking for the clip where is the clip? Here it is this is what the president said There's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders

1:15:26 So, we are fully supportive of Israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes. Wow! I'm so happy that I just went back Oh my God! I cannot believe that... oh this is freaking me out So Wired Pig said the President said rockets but he didn't He said missiles and because the big point was there is a difference between rockets and missiles Rockets are not guidance But he said missiles? I thought he said rocket Didn't you hear him say rockets at some point? I never heard of say rockets. I always thought it was missiles That's why have the missiles written on my clip here funny Whatever, I got several notes about this thing Oh man Rockets is not the same as missiles But the president clearly said missile so I take that back then screw you wired pig you're wrong well, I think you could to you could make the argument if you want a big give a parse and

1:16:20 you know missiles versus rockets right but he's saying missiles yeah I know but let's just say he says from with from outside the border that drawn is inside the border. You're right it's inside the border good point five points Chauncey Dvorak severed feet, right again would you like uh double talk double speak for 300 Yeah, play the clip. Another one I'm not quite sure what it is but can you play the Libyan intel chief? Yes Meanwhile the investigation into who killed four Americans is stalled Reports from the ground in Benghazi suggest that gunmen who were at the consulate that night still freely roamed the streets And Wednesday the national security chief in Benghazi Colonel Farag El-Dersy was killed by three gunman as he returned home from work

1:17:14 This Libyan intelligence officer may have had information about who was behind the attack on Ambassador Chris Stevens and the others. Yeah, it's called tying up loose ends I believe Did anybody report this in the US media? Yeah, I actually had it in the show notes on Thursday and for some reason we didn't get to it Oh man...I'm not very good with the jingles today It's the new jingle boring. Yeah, it sucks but yeah so of course the guy had information and oh sorry you know I Think that that actually came out maybe even a full maybe more than that Maybe a full week ago that information came out More important is that we make sure we watch tune in to see CNN heroes

1:18:13 That's right. Let me guess, CNN heroes we're gonna have a nurse? A school teacher some poor child with their limbs blown off in some dusty other nation and Who else do we need to make our show complete? Oh let's see...a nurse you need a maybe a teacher trying to teach the poor girls Nurse, teacher doctor no he said not doctor No doctors are no good. Nurse, teacher veteran with limbs blown off What else can we bring in there? Like someone plays like violin or some crappy thing like that and like you know, like some virtuos kid. That plays piano. There's a lot of possibilities. He plays triangle I don't know what it is just yeah, I've never produced garbage like that makes it difficult to... Oh, I'm telling you We've had do so much of that stuff You never had to do that?! oh my god

1:19:09 So while we might as well Do a couple things that? That I have from the previous actually. I had these this week so the president is over in Burma Which he at sometimes calls Myanmar and it's something forbid by the way that he's working on this fiscal cliff issue No, it's not working on that. He's partying boys back now. He's back But he was out there in in the Asias and a meeting in Burma conveniently located next to China. So let me just give you, if you go from west to east this is what I think is going on we have the TAPI which is Turkmenistan that's where they get the gas it goes through Afghanistan goes through Pakistan

1:19:50 goes to India, that's TAPI. Then it goes through Bangladesh who just two weeks ago said hey we're happy to have pipelines then it goes into Burma and then it goes into China which is the ultimate destination for the gas which country needs gas as China? China's buying all this gas so that's...that is the basic Silk Road that's going into China So we had to open up Burma And by the way, did I tell you that when I was on the phone with Uncle Don and Aunt Meg they were talking about their daughter, the eldest daughter Lucy. And she...I had forgotten about this but they lived in Burma for couple years doing God knows what and that Lucy is doing a bike tour and then Aunt Meg said oh it's so nice you know Lucy is doing...and they're both on the phone at the same time. Lucy is doing a bike tour of Myanmar and Uncle Don cuts in

1:20:43 like angry, like really a bit. No it's Burma! It's not Myanmar, it's Burma!" That is a real sticking point for these guys you know for US intelligence and diplomacy. It's like it's Burma, it's not Myanmar so that has to open up and low and behold... You know I think that has to do with World War II and the Burma Road and all this other things pro-american touch points. And the only reason you change the name is because it's some sinister scheme to

1:21:23 marginalize our touch points which are very important in that area. So, in the Federal Register appears the following this week designation of seven entities pursuant to Executive Order 13448 or Executive Order 13464 an amendment of existing specially designated national listing so-called SDN which is handled by the Treasury And this is seven companies who are now unblocked from doing trade in Burma, including the Golden Aaron Ltd. What is this company? I'm trying to read through this doing this in real time. Where are all these names? Well it doesn't really matter you have to look at it in the show notes and actually I'd appreciate if people would go

1:22:15 and check out these seven companies that have been unblocked because undoubtedly, what I'm looking for here is a Clinton connection or Texas connection. Because you don't all of the sudden just unblock seven companies from doing business in Burma unless there's some business to be done. So I think it's pipelines and I think it's obviously natural gas. The president's over there and he's talking and standing next to Aung San Suu Kyi This is her name. This is the woman who Hillary is madly in love with, Aung San Suu Kyi. Yeah she's so delicious So delicious darling. You caught me off guard again Here's Hillary Clinton She's smart she just says something sexy to her It's almost too delicous to believe my friend That's right. That's right. Aung San Suu Kyi Say it again. Aung San Suu Kyi

1:23:10 I was honored to be the first president to welcome Don Sung Tzu Chi. It's not on young, it's on... Did she say Dong Sung? Long Dong Sung Chi. White House I'm proud to be the first American president to visit this country and explore with Aung San Suu Kyi. It's not Aung Yong Suu Kyi, it's Aung San Suu Kyi! And the government whether the United States we've seen some very encouraging progress including now Aung San Suu Kyi's release Noooo it is not Aung Yong Suu Kyi! It's Aung San Suu Kyi! It's embarrassing

1:23:51 Well, you know if George Bush had done that he'd been ready ridiculed by the media but nobody noticed Yeah But you're only saying that because your a secret Republican. You love to say those no No I'm a total independent there's no and I voted for Gary Johnson. I might add bull crap. Yeah Who was a Republican next time? I'll take out camera into the voting booth and show you my ballot doesn't mean that you're not really a Republican Your my handler we've known this for years now give up just give up where I am pissed at us. Why did we miss? Well, because every single year we make a prediction about Black Friday and i was going to say this year black friday would be down and I think cuz you know typically it's like the most bought ever right yeah well what was that on it was down revenues were down but ABC News and two people around the world understand of the slave

1:24:55 Mission that we have after this. So here's how it works in the United States of Gitmo nation We have a fake holiday, which is meant to make us feel good about killing Indians and You know into celebrate that we go kill a turkey And we eat that and we get drunk and then we you know, we put our hands in our pants on watch football And watch lots of commercials and you know man, did you just turn up the speakers because it's loud now. It's coming back Maybe she just you moved away or something changed down even further

1:25:34 That's no good. I'll continue so then you're watching these commercials and these commercials and the news reports are telling you about Black Friday, And you're gonna have to run out in the morning stand Actually that night at like 8 o clock midnight No eight o clock at night is when you get in line You stand in line? And then a midnight the doors open you go in he just grab whatever you can which I think by The way it says people stealing stuff. I don't think they're actually getting it because it's cheap Like this is a great opportunity to rip stuff off And it's a total slave movement. And you're supposed to be happy by these deals and of course now we have something called Cyber Monday, which is tomorrow when we are all going to be ordering all these great deals online The whole thing is sickening but ABC actually gave the right moniker Good morning America this morning Black & Blue Friday America's annual orgy of capitalism gets dicey

1:26:29 Scuffles over deals, guns pulled over parking spots. In the midst of the mayhem which items are literally flying off the shelves? I love orgy of capitalism That's all good stuff but you know here is what i did Uh oh You know the way they do, we've mentioned this a million times on this show. You hear these reports from overseas in Benghazi, they're clearly sweetened. In Bengali? They are clearly sweetened! Now I think all of the news reports should be sweetened Because why should it just why should the overseas reports get sweetened and local reports don't so here's my Black Friday report that's been sweetened Explain Sweden. Just say people under sweetened It means you do take the clip or whatever is then you go into the sound room and you add Gunfire, and yeah explosions You had all this screaming and yelling that isn't really on the clip Or you'd do the same thing in a comedy show That's not funny right and you saw your turn up to laughter and make us look like it's funny. It's not funny okay

1:27:30 The death threshers. The pushers. I can't even hear what she's saying. I came in here that just you gotta put up with it Shoppers consumed with the deal turning on one another at this Walmart last year To fight suffocation in the crowd, this is Black Friday in America and Connecticut shopper, John Bullshit. You did this? I've been standing in line for 36 hours Wait did you do this is the actual report as it went out or did you did you is this what you were working on all week? It's sweetened! This father of an 18 month old has been camping out for years one year he snapped photos as this crowd fought over $5 headphones

1:28:25 The shoppers just went berserk. I've never seen anything like it, people start lunging and grabbing and you just see the arms all go at once What is relatively new are shoppers turning on other shoppers Amy Drolet is a consumer psychologist She says competitive shopping has gotten worse so accept it on Black Friday that its here to stay Bad behavior has led to serious injuries, even death. From crushed workers and shoppers to shootings at stores. But crowds are just part of obtaining rare Black Friday deals says Daggett. I love it when they try to swing at you or anything It's funny to me because everybody always gets mad when your the one with the items that they want. Driven by competition no matter the cost

1:29:18 Young Law, CNN Los Angeles. The Illuminati, facts and fiction. It's a very fun book to read So he went out cruising He went out on Black Friday And he was driving by...and in the video people were lined up at Target Best Buy and Sears They're lined up at 8 o'clock in the evening for midnight when doors open And he is bullhorning them I just want play little bit of this it's very funny Let me see 12 730 PM And this is Target

1:30:25 where a bunch of mainstream media watching morons are all lined up. Look at these idiots, because it opens at 8 o'clock so I'm gonna give them a nice welcome You are all a bunch of mainstream media watching morons. It's enemies of America like you that are causing our country to collapse financially! Look at your slaves lined up for your Chinese goods, how many thousands of dollars in credit card debt do you all have? I bet you don't even own an ounce of silver, do you?! It's slaves like you that are forcing these poor workers to come into work and ruin their thanksgiving, you zombies!! I love this guy

1:31:07 And I love the woman with a screeching voice yelling shut up, but literally looking at him like zombies. I swear to God they're like what? He does more let's play little more so funny. I loved another one. They heard me so I'm gonna take a swing I don't think they heard me the zombies. I'm gonna go back and do it again, and they start throwing stuff at him You are pawns of the Illuminati you are so ignorant you brain dead zombies You are the reason for the financial cliff that America is facing, the hyperinflation disaster. You are ignorant consumeristic morons! You Illuminati puppet absolute idiots! Okay...

1:31:55 I like this guy. He's- By the way, by the way Yeah? I can see you doing that in just a few years Oh yeah totally what do you mean just a few years And you have the bullhorn! What do ya think i'm doin' after this show?! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab On no agenda You are all Illuminati slaves In the morning Well, let's see what Illuminati slaves we've got here. Hello Illuminati slaves! In the morning to ya! Donated to the show... Yeah well they're no slaves these are people who are awake and know what's going on because my friends news is free it's the analysis that has value so we have some with no name no address no anonymous been meaning to donate for a while and write for awhile it seems job karma asked from my husband few months that finally came to me

1:32:51 So I'm busy with new work as a librarian, keeper of the books. It suits me fairly well as the whole librarians are the quiet revolutionaries in society although i'm sure we have plenty my own shut up slave moments anyway back in October the anti-bullying month our ninth grade son came home with his personal no agenda story which he told us that a bully was defined for this school has a small scale terrorist. Wait a minute! This is what they're teaching now? Yeah. The bull is someone who's a bully, is a quote small scale terrorist? Yeah. Awesome. Isn't that amazing? I believe that too. It was like the schools teach the weirdest stuff. I wasn't treacherous good word at a bully who tosses around mean words whom I distinctly remember being taught way back to ignore

1:33:39 should be compared to someone who takes lives, which is just ridiculous to me. I'm sure my son was annoyed as well and couldn't help but see the manipulation." The irony is that while they are taught not to bully... The anti-bully day had all the good slaves wearing you have to what happens if you don't? They had to wear the t-shirts that's what she means it means yeah She, yeah. All the same t-shirts with... Okay here it is I'm sorry i got confused! She sent a picture of this actually all the same t-shirts with big old red targets on the back seriously whose dumb idea was this in my mind and 14 year old son targets are for one thing only to shoot something at Have you seen them? Are they implying that these kids are really victims to be just made no sense but just one of those shut up slave moments that made us all shake our heads what a waste this t-shirt will never be worn again by my son

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1:46:24 We don't have a fringe girl. No, we don't oh, please Congratulations to Adam for passing his general class test. Thank you guys for a great show keep up the, keep it up. Valeska So do we have two women in a row donating on behalf of their husbands? This is very nice this is great It's very very I think we have to recommend We should do that mention the newsletter people should be giving a Christmas donation No these half of their husbands But these are the women who should be on CNN heroes That's the one I was missing so we've got the teacher we've got the nurse We've got the blown up veteran and we've got women who donate for their husbands to the No Agenda show. I think that's beautiful So, de-douching and little French girl Just pretend she is French okay? You've been de-douched Shut Up Slave! Stay quiet you bastard! You've Got Karma There ya go Sounded like French

1:47:23 Not really. So that's the extent of our donations here for show 464, a palindrome show as a matter of fact. Yeah not a single 464 donation for the Palindrome interestingly enough. That's weird and you know it happens it is inconsistent also this is the holiday Sunday after the holiday nobody's really listening it's pretty bad they'll catch up I hope on Thursday yeah Well the way you can support. Oh, yes go ahead I'm sorry before you go on to that We have to make a correction oh for Laurie. Oh Yes now we have to do a Re-nighting are you kidding me re-nighting? He's so put him on the list and he's not all black night because it's got screwed up And I want to remind people that black netwoods are only obtained by us screwing up

1:48:18 Okay, and well can you explain what happened on how we can avert? Well is he's Finnish and apparently in Finland every female name that we think of as fit female in the United States is actually all guys I think the only thing I think there was one female name in all of Finland And I don't even know what it is because I haven't gotten a female donor so So Laurie which is whom Who Eric DeShill actually met along with comic book blogger in Helsinki? Wait a minute did Eric Eric DeShill met comic strips comic strip blogger no, no. No is it yes Yes, he made comics right now and no no no it's it's the other guy It's Luke not comic strip blogger Oh I thought it was calm okay met Luke right all right so please easy well possible yeah

1:49:14 And well, whoever he met. He did meet that you met Laurie who we thought was the greatest guy ever So anyway, you know Eric is Finnish really? He's gonna get his finish citizenship as a matter of fact and What will I get him? Fishing rights or whatever do you get for that? What are you good for? Well, you get the safety of being a finished citizen Oh, but he also gets health care Because Eric was born with a defective valve in his heart. It hasn't really made any difference to him, I mean he's still normal but... He is still alive clearly Well no, and healthy too But theoretically he is going have it operated on someday

1:50:02 And it's one of those operations that is a rip-off operation. Let me just understand, so he is gouging the state of Finland without paying taxes? No no, he's Finnish! It's a socialist country. I understand but don't you have to like pay taxes in Finland if you're going to take advantage of the system He's going to... I don't know. I'm not finished! All i know is he did the math and it was a good deal Don't bring up if you don't know, don't pretend like you Well im just telling what hes gonna do Im not gonna..I can't answer all the questions for him Well you brought him up He definitely obviously did the math No i brought that he was gonna be finished and you asked why? I didn't ask why he was finished

1:50:45 You said he's Finnish so he can eat herring? I mean you had some snide comment. No, you said... He's- You have no respect for the Finns! I do when uh.. You're right i don't. But we're gonna re-night him. Shows that I do have respect for the Finns. But first, let's say happy birthday to Grebulon's son Ben who turned four last Thursday Martin Osterhout congratulates himself turned 57 on the 21st Congratulations Martin and Valeska Arnesen It says, happy birthday to your husband Chris Arneson. His birthday is coming up on the 26th it's on a Monday I love it when wives do that for their husbands That is true love and vice versa of course Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at The No Agenda Show And so we have two black knights and one straight-up knight who we're going to crown today Do you have that thing?

1:51:50 Yeah, I got the little one here. I can't be this house pull it out. It's not that little actually Mark Borghese Michael March Anderson and Laurie Sir Laurie step forward all three of you are today becoming Knights of the Node in a roundtable Mickle You will be a black knight as will you Laurie? Thank you so much for your donation the amount of $1,000 or more and mark as well So hereby I pronounce thee sir mark sir Black Knight and Sir Lori! All Knights of the Noah's Inner Round Table, come on over for your Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay Hot Pants & Booze Wenches & Beer Rubinous Women & Rose Geishas & Sake Vodka & Vanilla Gerbils & Ginger Ale

1:52:32 So our tax rate is running around 30% and it's going to go up thanks to Obama at 39. In Finland, the income tax rate national for an individual is between 6.5 and 29.7. You have to be making millions to get that high rate? I think... well yeah but then but the way they do moving violations you can get fined like $10,000 for speeding Well, you can get fined over a thousand dollars in California and in Washington State they fine you for going one mile over the speed limit. Yeah yeah But the weird thing here is I'm looking at taxes The weird thing here is they have a church tax In where? Finland Really 1% to 2.5%. They need no agenda tax Wouldn't that be nice if we just got a tax Just got like a credit every year from them but then of course wouldn't be able to say anything

1:53:31 No. You don't know that? Yeah, I know that. What's the worst they could do? They take the tax away. So what were you gonna say besides go to Dvorak dot org slash NA? I already said that Oh...you said what? No! Well, I said nothing. What are you talking about? So I got a clip This is a clip that you'd like Max Kaiser, you know The financial guy who's on Russia Today Cause it's the only place he can get a gig Do you know Stacey? The woman whose on That's his fiance Oh, his co-host? Yeah! He's doing her. That's what I thought was happening. Well she's feeding him softballs... ...I guess he's feeding her softballs too. Heyo! So anyway....

1:54:19 He's saying now is that the end of the world is near. Of course, he says this all the time unfortunately but he mentioned KKR, Kravitz, Colvis and Roberts whatever you know that big private equity buyout guys. They've decided to they're bundling a bunch of their deals and selling them off to the public and Kaiser suspiciously says these guy would never do that unless they were going to collapse And so they say that he thinks the whole thing's a scam. And he is in London now apparently? Yeah, he used to be in Paris and now he moved the outfit to London I'm not sure why he did that... I don't know but he sure likes to bitch about it and here's where he goes off on The Queen. ...out of control situation here and it was mostly due to lower corporate tax receipts

1:55:08 Right, because the economy is shrinking due to the scandals of the banks. The four horsemen of the paper apocalypse Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds HSBC and did I mention Barclays? So these are the four major protagonists in a tragedy called the killing of the UK economy. And George Osborne, of course and David Cameron they're going to need the global market to buy their debt They need more debt to keep themselves afloat even though the country's gone completely into a zombie state So what is Cameron doing to Euro? The Eurozone which could be a natural buyer of his debt He's saying no we don't want to be part of the Eurozone he's antagonistic towards his boss Angela Merkel you know he's antagonistic

1:55:51 Who's going to be buying the bonds of the UK to finance their economy going forward? Not the Eurozone. No, no, who is gonna be buying these bonds? Oh KKR they can sell the Tower of London for 10 cents on a dollar? Sell Buckingham Palace for 50 billion dollars and let's get over this whole royalty thing because that's a big waste of money They got dual leverage buyers out of Buckingham Palace. Do a leverage buyout of the Queen and all the spawn in the Queen and the Duke, and get rid of this debt! Put them on a stamp, put them on a flag but get rid of them as physical entities because they're mucking up the economy!" As soon you threaten that there will be genuine old-fashioned debt jubilee, the queen will say, I dispense with this

1:56:36 Go on, KKR. Well you know Queen listen to me Queen Elizabeth KKR is in your backyard threatening you declare a debt jubilee for this country and drive the snakes of KKR and other private equity groups out of Britain do your country a favor queen Elizabeth drive out the snakes of Cobo Kravis and Roberts now let me say something I this is not one of my favorite Max Keiser bits And I don't and I'm now that. I know that he and Stacy are in bed together literally it's annoying to me It is no, it knows just annoying because you know I can see him yelling at her in the bedroom Which is I get all kinds of weird visions? But I think he's in London. I think he's on someone's payroll. I think he sold out I think he's yelling about certain things on the behest of

1:57:24 someone else that that is what I think is going on and and that's part of the reason for his move close to The City of London, The Banking City which is its own entity. It's his handlers want him close to the vest And he couldn't be in France anymore to do this I think he sold out and he's yelling about people and companies But he's not yelling about all of them and then one of the Queen business was dumb That wasn't a funny bit Because what's really happening is if, here is what I expect him to talk about as there was a big meeting in Brussels where all of the Euro chiefs came together and to talk about the budget for the next decade. As they say it which actually means decade but they say decayed and here is Heiko Hermann talking about that. We need some more time to finalize the solution this is the budget for the rest of the decade

1:58:18 and the next seven years would be crucial to put Europe back on the path of recovery and growth. So we must get it right, there's no need to dramatize these budget negotiations are so complex that generally takes two goes my feeling is that uh... we can go further But it takes some preparatory work and it has to be balanced. There is a political will to break some taboos and to find an agreement finally."

1:58:58 But the state of play at this stage is that on the basis of my proposal there is no agreement. I love how he takes, it literally took 15 minutes to cut down and say there's no deal, there's no agreement on budget That's what Max Kaiser should be reporting on Is that everyone trying to figure out how to screw slaves more And he's there yelling about KKR? Quibono on that! I think he sold out I'm not saying he didn't. I'm not a big Max Keiser fan, I just thought it was funny that they would ask the Queen for a Jubilee or anyone's even bringing it up as becoming a meme Well we-I think we were the first ones to talk about the debt jubilee

1:59:36 Months ago. Well, but we as recent as a month is a long time I go yeah We brought it up and then we talked about and then we went into what that means And it's every what does it according to the Bible every 50 years? I think there should be there remember somebody in the chat some Bible guy in the chat room might know hey Bible guy Hey Bible got you in their pipe up Bible guide Meanwhile back here at home where we live little Timmy He had this to say. Did people decide to use it to threaten default on the American credit for the first time in history as a tool for political advantage? And that's not a tenable strategy. Is now the time to eliminate it? It would have been long time ago, but sooner the better. So he actually wants the debt ceiling just eliminated altogether so you can just do whatever he wants. He is like hey print up more and more and more...is this a good policy?

2:00:50 Well, it depends on your perspective. I'd say most people would say no but of course my thesis Which is that you should be printing more money by the ton Is that yes a fine and fine idea? well because but should we just so let's say you are the The Bernanke and and you can do whatever you want I mean Should we just let you go for forever and ever or should we give you a stop somewhere You know like there should be some backstop. I mean, oh, I think it should go Well, here's the way it would work. You'd go for as long as you could and then the economy would collapse now. It's kind of a weird theory. There we are! Yeah okay hi John you should just have him walk around making that sound then it will collapse in 2017 whatever you do the thing is going to collapse anyway but

2:01:43 So do you want to go through a miserable collapse that drags on forever? Because the last time we had one where we went through a miserable collapse, which was in 1929. It dragged onto 1940 because you had a party in power of the Democrats that did everything they could to make sure... because they couldn't fix it and didn't know what they were doing instead of normal collapse which lasts about a year and half And it's you because they don't try to fix it. The old school was especially in 2008, let these banks fail! Let these guys go out of business! Let them go through bankruptcy! Let General Motors go through bankruptcy doesn't mean they're gonna stop making cars It just means that they have a jubilee Bankruptcy is Jubilee and everybody you know restarts... Stop! Say that again? Bankruptcy is Jubilee

2:02:33 Well, Jubilee is a broad-based thing but it's individual jubilee. Yeah I've got $1 million in debt and I got $500,000 in assets. I go bankrupt now I'm clean slate! This is a great idea what's the downside? Well the downside that everybody does it then there's gonna be zero liquidity out there for you know for anybody getting any money because they won't get any money left but there's no real down side to bankruptcy this part of this system and as part of the system for banks to go bankrupt So I was talking about... But you know, they wouldn't let the banks go bankrupt so that gave them a jubilee. They should have given the public one and let the banks sort it out

2:03:17 Anyway, so that's what happens. And that was going to happen. But Bernanke I think is totally familiar with this kind of thinking and he wants to crank the presses up but everybody knows it is considered a bad idea... Oh they're printing money! They're printing money not realizing that in 1849 when gold was discovered it was equivalent of printing money You went out to your backyard and you picked up a nugget. All of the sudden this is now worth something you didn't have before the day before." Well, if we could only make dog poop the new gold then we'd be in business! Just make that valuable and just say hey dog poop is now the new gold. And I tell ya, I'd be the richest guy in this area. Look at this nugget over here! This really good nugget I found. So but I was talking to the kids last night and I want to make sure I'm not giving them false information

2:04:06 Because the kids today, like Buzzkill Jr.'s age. He's what? 24? No, he's older. He's always yeah okay so these kids are 20 22 and And they're looking at like you know what kind of future do they have and I'm told them last night? I said it's gonna suck until 2017 but then it's gonna be great Do I have to revise that did I get it the wrong way around well here's what years with this cycle a classic worst-case scenario Cycle and even a best case scenario cycle hit 2017 is an issue And what happens is you get a run up and everything looks good, and you can probably position yourself into a nice job to coast. Because you have a secondary collapse in 2017 which will happen in one way or the other. Then it goes flat, it looks like its going flat but that's your opportunity right there because from then on until 2025-26 everythings rosy so it picks up except for one small issue. This again my

2:05:07 Stop, stop. Before you continue just say that in short so suck until 2017 then it's good until 2025 is that what you said? No things are actually beginning to get good and so we have a run up and then the collapse. Give me the dates when does it suck when is it good make it simple for me I would say that when you really want to be conservative, put all your money in the invest everything you have starting in 2018-2019 after it collapses in 2017. Because there's like a bull trap... No wait! I'm confused You told me we're going to have the big collapse in March of 2013 Now its 2000 so what happens between 2013 and 2017?

2:05:56 flat nothing goes on bad so nothing happens then 2017 that's when the run-up starts to 2025 and we have the mega collapse yeah but what happens is a run up usually results in this and a minor collapse that looks like It's never gonna end. But that's bullcrap, it's just a trick, it's a trap! Alright let me ask you this though... This is too complicated You know? No wonder you haven't written the book! You keep rewriting it! I have not changed any of these opinions! Okay so when is everything over? When is like the 80s and 90s hookers and blow and party time again? When does that start? Well there's a complication

2:06:35 Let me tell you what it is a year in 2020 is when you can just throw all your money and anything, you know make you'll be rich 20 But here's the problem eight years every 80 years. Yeah There is a massive dislocation War style if we started with the American Revolution eighty years later We had the Civil War eighty years later. We had World War two and eighty years later as twenty twenty mm-hmm and Trying to scope out what's gonna happen in 2020 drone wars We have no idea because every one of these wars is a little different There was a revolutionary period in the 1700s lot civil war as a totally alien thing will never have again in this country that was different and then World War two

2:07:18 which was stemmed from World War I in many ways, was crazy and we probably won't see anything like that again because with all the nukes we've got nobody's going to do that. So it'll be something else. I think it's gonna be some sort of proxy war with drones or something along those lines. I have no idea. There will be drones flying over foreign drones shooting at us? I don't know but that's a complication. But that's gonna be 1920 2020 I don't think so. I think it's gonna be different, I think it will be a cyber war and It will be about bits and bytes power on power off. I believe even in 2000 but this no Obama 20 no no obama's term this term that we have that he has is the four years He's going into we'll see most likely false flag We will see a cyber attack that takes down at least apart if not all of the power grid for a period of time

2:08:16 We're going to see that and I think it's coming in 2013. It'll be a part of the your hundred years antiquated infrastructure Because we're gonna need that we're going to need to put people to work and doing something We're gonna need warfare for the 2020 war So, I think a cyber wars is easiest because you can still do all the damage You don't kill people in the old-fashioned way, you know they you kill them by you know their Their stuff doesn't work, you know. The electricity doesn't... Yeah they get cold and die! They die off you know it's a simple way to do it It's really frightening and only the hackers in the sysadmins will be the ones who keep us alive and help us survive And they're our friends which is good

2:08:58 Well, I don't know. These things are always... you never know how they're going to shake out. You can only...I only know the cycle and I can just kind of surmise what might happen. It could be right it could be that. I think drones are more exciting. Yeah! I think the drone is just a temporary thing but actually you can combine the two. You can take drones that are hacked And then, you know... and they're flying around. Slam him into towers? Yeah well no I mean drone the wrong people and you know yeah that could all be a part of it

2:09:36 Meanwhile, there's some weird protests going on particularly in Euro land where things appear to be on fire now There's a I put a video in the video section of the show notes by the way show notes you get as a part Of your value for value proposition four six four dot na show notes calm also know agenda news network comm we can always get the latest news as it rolls through on a a minutely basis, literally. And the video is titled excerpts of German documentary about the general failure of Europe. It has subtitles it's very very good that's about 15 minutes you must watch this it shows all the rioting all the crap that's going on but I have a question about this next report which comes from Euronews I have a question about this particular protest John

2:10:25 Italian teachers and students have once again hit the streets of Rome, just 10 days after protests about the latest cuts to the education budget turned violent. Despite spending less than almost all wealthy countries on education according to most recent OECD figures, the Italian government has repeatedly cut spending in the sector in recent years. These are not shields for fighting clashes we're carrying these for effect They have important messages on them, which we'd like to send everyone here. We're protesting against the cuts to the education budget that were carried out by both the Berlusconi and Monti governments." The protest went ahead without police authorization

2:11:11 Security personnel stayed on high alert in case of further clashes. Teachers and students are also worried about a controversial bill currently being discussed in Parliament, which would allow schools to bid for private funding And then there's the problem of work once students leave education The jobless rate among young people in Italy stands at 35% So I listened to this report And I'm going back to my own school days. Now, back in the day, um...I hoped for nothing but the school to crumble and then not be any money for teachers. I'm like yay! Less school! Hated school! You know? And now we have young kids protesting because the government's not funding the school enough?!

2:11:53 It makes no sense to me. And then I thought, wait a minute are these commie bastards? Are they just trying to stay in school longer so they don't have to go out into the workplace where there's no work is that what's going on can you explain this to me well your kind it surprises me that this is a shot to you because we've already seen as I guess a year and year and a half ago whether Brits had this issue where the kids didn't like to hire tuitions, they made a big fuss about it. Oh yes you're right! And then we had the Canadian thing with the red square people. The Quebecers and they actually took over some seats in Parliament. So this is a major trend in the world.

2:12:35 Oh, of course not and they don't want it to be publicly. They don't want it to be commercialized Because then they know that they're definitely not gonna get you know a free ride because you know commercial companies don't work that way hmm Interesting I just rethink it you'll come up with something No, no, I'm starting to understand what but we don't have that here in in America. No We just have some other kind of scam going on. I mean it is it's still surprises me and it the only thing I can come up with is it just must be the drugs that we have all these kids on. It really surprises me how no one is angry, no one's out protesting nobody protests anymore in the United States anything at all anything! Well when they do then the media doesn't cover their quash and there's no point in it yeah

2:13:31 I'm talking about education. Yes, I got a little iPads bad for kids report is kind of interesting to me Experts have cautioned against letting toddlers below three years old to get too familiar with mobile devices They say it might hamper their ability to learn as they grow The three-year old Randy Smith has been playing with an iPad since he was two and his parents say he is quite familiar with some of the mobile devices advanced features. But experts we spoke to believe that children, his age should spend more time interacting with their physical environment they say interacting too much with a virtual interface could interfere with the child's ability to understand the world around him

2:14:15 Wow, yeah. This little kid they had in the report he had an iPhone in his hand and he wouldn't put it down or stop looking at it and poking at it right I think it's sick Yeah It is sad Well isn't kind of true that throughout human history technology eventually gets us into big trouble Well, it's better than living in a cave. We were living in caves and then we invented fire and then fire eventually got us to the point where we burned each other down that was technology one And then we had the wheel and then you were running each other down and then we had gunpowder and then we're killing each other down

2:14:59 You know just keeps on going. I mean so won't we eventually just be cybering each other to death? Stick with your theory, I like this you're gonna you can develop this into a small ebook and a giblet a jiblet on Amazon It's a very small book it's about four pages. I just wrote it So by the way, did you hear this story? The UK takes foster children. Yeah do you have a clip? Do you have a clip? I've got a clip. We'll have a competitive clip. Let me here your clip. Hold on second... This is amazing this story! You need to set it up or we just go into it? Yeah let's start with the setup. This by all accounts is a family with an exemplary fostering record they've been fostering kids for the last 12 years What?! The front of the clip is missing

2:15:53 I'll set it up. It says UK takes foster children, that's what... Yeah yeah! I don't know what happened to the front of it. Listen my clip explains it better. The education secretary has condemned the decision of Rotherham Borough Council to remove three children from the care of a couple because they're members of the UK Independence Party Michael Gove said the decision is indefensible Rotherham Council said it's launching an immediate inquiry and that has taken the action because of UKIP stance on immigration as the siblings were EU migrants. Now speaking to BBC News this morning, the head of children services at Rotherham Borough Council Joyce Thacker said social services took the decision because the children's long-term needs were not being met

2:16:37 People can be of any political party, but I have to weigh up the appropriateness of placing children in certain settings. So I might be criticised for example for placing Pakistani children in a non-Pakistani household if the birth family were keen that they remain brought up and that face in that culture because I would be having to think to myself can the host family, the foster carers meet the cultural ethnic needs of their families so there's absolutely no difference to this one really. So as they say different circumstances a perfectly good fostered fosters but i had to take the decision in conjunction with legal advice is still longer term future for children

2:17:16 You know, I thought a long time about what is going on here and although not entirely sure where this is coming. This is a PR move by someone no doubt did you have a thought on that before I dive into it? Well there's an election in the area where the independence party has actually got a candidate that probably wouldn't win but could now. So there's that angle, so the Independence Party for anyone out there Americans in particular this is the party that Nigel Farage belongs to and it's a small party of about 12% of the public in the UK that believes that the EU sucks Right and that they shouldn't let every Pakistani that wants to come and become a Brit. Well, no one well actually No So this is a little different in this case what the woman says so the council by the way in I'm just talking about The Independence Party in general the way they're perceived well It's very what you said about Europe is very very important because with the way their perceived as different I think from

2:18:13 Obviously from what is going on. They do not want the influx of East Europeans Europeans from the Balkan states coming into or onto an island It's a little it's very weird when you have an Island because it tends to get full and difficult to manage Now when you just open up the borders, which by the way is no longer true You see it's not that easy to get in anymore But they're all in essentially And in the council, so this kind of a local government in Gitmo Nation East. It's very frightening the power these people have and the things they do These are the people that put hidden cameras into your trash cans You know cameras at peoples' houses to make sure that they're treating their children They take children away from Child Protective Services if they're too fat

2:18:58 You know, all kinds of it's really, really Gitmo nation to the extreme. Very, very frightening and when you see this woman talking you just throw up in your mouth I mean it's like a little Hitler A little Valerie Jarrett Hitler woman And you can just see it like oh my god such an ugh So what is happening here is these children are in a foster home and they've been placed into a different foster home with the judgment... No, no. They weren't placed in a different foster home. My understanding was that they were placed in an orphanage? I think they were being put into a different foster home

2:19:34 That's not the report I have. Yeah, well go on. that Europeans should get out. These two children are Eastern Europeans, exactly the kind that the UKIP party thinks should be kicked out so the council is saying this is a bad situation for them because these foster parents are against, it's a very weird reasoning obviously but they're against having these types of human resources even being in Gitmo Nation at all analogous to not putting Pakistani orphans with Pakistani foster parents. That's what they're saying I think it's a big PR job I'm not quite sure who is benefiting because its sick and twisted and just shows you how demented the United Kingdom really is

2:20:38 You know we don't get much donations from the UK anymore. It's just dropped off the face of the earth. Yeah, because they're sick and demented over there. Sick and demented? Because all people do there is drink. Christina has a lot of friends on Facebook She basically grew up, her formative years as a teenager were in and around London. And these kids I love them you know they're very very sweet and all of them are there amounting to absolutely nothing zero. They're amounted to nothing John there's no work, there is no place to go they are living at home if not living at home then living around their friends houses that near couch surfing

2:21:19 I'm generalizing and i'd love to hear from some of our producers in Gitmo Nation East, but I agree. It's...I think they're just lying in the gutter in a drunken stupor and they're not listening to podcasts anymore. Well it could be. But I only have one last weird clip which goes off topic a little bit but the- I just thought this was peculiar when I saw it on one of the foreign broadcasts The priests versus imams Okay, just play it and you'll see what it's about Bosnia Catholic priests and Muslim imams face off in a charity soccer match religious leaders from both groups came up with the idea after local authorities said the city needed money for a new kindergarten Thousands of fans bought tickets to the match and cheered whoever scored. The priests won five two three Was the reality show?

2:22:15 Isn't this going to cause some sort of an incident? The priests beat the imams 5-3. Where did this take place, what wonderful... In Bosnia! Oh, what is this? Is this an end them all production mark Burnett will they be bringing this to a turn yet to Fox? It would be a great show. I really am priest versus emoms This isn't great. It's a fantastic show talking about that sort of thing up here in the you know Canadian border So watch Canadian TV and get last night They didn't have any of American football games so I missed all of them But I got to see And I didn't realize it was Canadian because i got to watch the Saskatchewan Sirens play the Vancouver Angels in lingerie football bowl. What is a lingerie? Like they playing lingerie? Yeah! No... yeah, well it's kind of- It's lingerie with some padding that they need for football. It's a football game. But is it women or dudes? It's women

2:23:15 There's women jocks, the same kind of women that would be wrestlers. Lingerie... Women jocks What is it called? It's called lingerie football bowl B-O-W-L and it's a major sport apparently in Canada My wife was watching she renamed the team to Saskatchewan Sluts Oh my god! Here's a picture of two contestants tonguing each other There you have it. Oh my god is this is this available on television show no hello Yes, big-time show notes oh my goodness This is this is on Canadian television yeah So let's get those sling boxes everybody we need to understand what's happened? Oh my goodness Wow and they play football Yeah, tackle football I cannot believe that We don't have this in America This is fantastic

2:24:09 I mean, I think football is a great sport now. Wow get a franchise here in the ILS LUS We can get a franchise really I'm putting this in the show notes where should I should but put it under Sports is good. Hold on, sports is good and you can find that it's a new category here on the show Wow wow wow wow they say it's an American I would look at this American lingerie football league And it says America but these are Canadian teams playing each other I don't see the Americans involved But these could be these are Canadian women Canadian women are hot

2:24:50 It's basically for those of you, of course listening to the podcast in the car thinking trying to drive and Google this with one hand stop because you're going to crash when you see that the images is basically cheerleaders are playing football. That's essentially what it is But they have like lingerie on. Oh my god! Well, I guess it's kind of lingerie... There are no field goals and no punts It is a kickoff to start the game in second half The team must attempt to get first down every fourth So it's the same? And they don't punt There are seven women on each side of the 50-yard field It's like arena football. It's kinda closer to arena football It's a quarterback couple running backs and they go for it. It really something to see

2:25:34 Let me see if there's video. Video... This is, this is- I love that first picture I got though of like the two contestants kissing each other. Sexy! My goodness so who won? Who won the 2000- Ah you know it was tied 6 to 6 at the half and I went to do some clips. I don't know who won It was the Saskatoon- I can look it up Saskatchewan they probably play out a Saskatoon maybe my guess Yeah, John. Yeah this so let me just get this straight you uh you were pre-producing the show mm-hmm I couldn't watch the whole game Mm-hmm right okay? Well good work good word my friend You brought me you've turned me on to a new sport which i'm really The finally is sport I can I can rally behind

2:26:30 It was kind of funny as they have their celebration dances to when the BC angels make a touchdown They they all dropped to the ground and do a snow angel in on the grass. It's quite humorous Yes Okay, I mean this is great All I need is some lingerie bowl and some howl doll and I'm good to go If you type in BC Angels, you'll get some videos. I think i'm quite done with looking at all this thank you very much Okay So we have an end of show clip sent to me by Sir Jim it's Jonathan Rauch and It is titled In Defense Of Being Offensive And this ties into the bullying meme although not mentioned specifically but how we need to remain offensive

2:27:22 to each other from time to time because that is the only way we grow as human beings. So after you hear this clip, go out and offend somebody and then let us know how it worked out for ya because it's not so accepted anymore but its very important which is part of the reason why we are the best podcast in the universe We are equal opportunity offenders! We learn, we grow from this and hope you do too And if you felt you grew somewhat no matter where send us a donation Dvorak.org slash na you're not doing that show are you later today? No, you just hang out in Washington State right perfect So we back on Thursday looking forward to speaking with you coming to you from the capital of the drone star state It is Austus Texan in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley North

2:28:21 I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday and in about 15 minutes live on the In The Morning Net, Echo Link Node 3373 right here on NOAgenda. To offend it is part of how we learn if you can't offend people then you can't criticize people and if you can't criticize people and ideas then there's absolutely no way to figure out what ideas are good or bad My name is Jonathan Rausch. I'm a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington, and I wrote a book awhile back called Kindly Inquisitors The New Attacks on Free Thought

2:29:01 Every authority in human history that has tried to enforce one orthodoxy or another, first has got it wrong and second has been well-intentioned. Whenever anyone tells you I've got it right, I've got the one true answer and everyone else is wrong and I'm going to enforce it... That person is not only a menace to freedom but more important a menace to human thriving and human knowledge And It would be a shame if universities of all places in this country forgot that lesson The fundamental reason we have universities is to discover knowledge and to convey the students how we discover knowledge. The way we discover knowledge is by starting out with our prejudices, our bigotries, our mistakes and testing them and throwing away the 99% that's wrong in keeping the rest but prejudice and bigotry and error are not the enemies of knowledge

2:29:57 They're the raw material of knowledge. The enemy of knowledge is the kind of certitude that won't let you put prejudice and bigotry and error out there, and won't let you test it because if you can't test the bad stuff in order to weed out the good stuff all you have is bad stuff I've been writing as a openly gay advocate for gay equality and now gay marriage for 20 years And to me it's been a miracle to witness the power of persuasion in America. As Martin Luther King understood, and as Frank Kameny, the great gay activist who recently died understood by far the most important tool that minorities have for obtaining equality in America is our power to change people's mind by our force of argument and by our force example

2:30:55 So I wrote a book called Kindly Inquisitors about 20 years ago in which I argued that the biggest threat to freedom of speech in America, in many ways is not from the traditional book burners and censors. It's from well-intentioned liberals and progressives in many cases who want to protect minorities, and want to protect people from being as they called it wounded by words. What they were trying to do I call that the humanitarian impulse because basically it was trying to make society a better and kinder place The problem with that is that its misguided because we members of minorities were not delicate flowers

2:31:39 We don't need to be protected from people who don't like us or respect it because we can't earn their respect, admiration and change their mind by hiding from them. We have got to be in situations where we can confront and encounter them sometimes angrily but more often with persuasion. The humanitarian attack basically, unfortunately stigmatizes criticism. It says hurting people's feeling with words is a bad thing Well it is not a good thing I grant you that but its necessary part of the knowledge creation process forcing people into dialogue forcing them to criticize each other and to encounter ideas they may not like That is the purpose of university And that is the thing that saves minorities and moves humanity toward newer better ideas

2:32:33 The core principle for me is the distinction between, on the one hand what I call purism and on the other hand what i call pluralism. Purism is the idea that a society has to be effectively cleansed of prejudice and bigotry and hateful views because as long as those views are around minorities are going to feel unsafe or be unsafe Pluralism is a very different view. It says, bring it on! The more the better... The only really safe situation in society is when you can pit these views against each other and when minorities get their say and have the opportunity to denounce and refute views that are biased and bigoted

2:33:12 I think the right answer, and this has been proven by centuries of human experience is in fact pluralism. We can't trust anybody in authority to make smart decisions for us about what's the acceptable point of view And again on college campuses and elsewhere it's been minorities who at the end of day have stood up and said if we don't stand up for groups that take the other side who will stand up for us? One of the things that the great writer H.L Mencken once said is that no good idea was ever born that didn't start out by offending people Being offended is part of how we learn If you can't offend people, then you can't criticize people And if you can't criticize people and ideas Then there's absolutely no way to figure out what ideas are good and what ideas are bad I'm not for offending people on purpose

2:34:06 But is offendedness an absolutely indispensable part of the process of developing knowledge and living together as a society? Absolutely. And is it a dangerous situation when someone can shut down the search for truth by saying, oh that offends me? Absolutely! Spodcast in the Universe! Devorak.org Slash N-A