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00:00 I'm just saying they're idiots, okay? Welcome the Euro Trash to Austin, the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and where nothing's going on here in northern Silicon Valley i am John C. Dvorak. It is crackpotting buzzkill in the morning! Woohoo with a stinger. John from now on when appropriate thou shalt address me with slash AG

00:44 Oh, you got your... You passed your test? Yes I did. I got my general! You're a general now. You can call me General Adam Curry. General Curry that's right for those of you wondering what are they talking about i took my test yesterday for the amateur radio general class Which I will say you're gonna go for extra you going one more step one more step You better believe it or stab so of course they mean, you know? I did so well on the test that they did what I expect was like hey man Take the extra. You won't have to pay the extra $14

01:23 Did you do that? Of course I did! And I almost passed, I almost passed. It was like... That extra test is...I looked at that and went nah, not even gonna try it If you can pass the extra I will have nothing but incredible respect for you forever December 15th...okay whoa hold on a second I'm glad i was recording December 15th, I'm taking the extra class. I did the test! I almost passed the extra test without studying for it. It was like whoa But here's the thing, it was the same dudes up there. They sit at the little dais, the VEs, the volunteer examiners and they're like, oh man congratulations you passed your general. You did so well we think you should do your extra! I'm like well but if I do my extra and pass it then I won't be able to see you guys next month. And you know what their response was? Hey man, you can always become an examiner! Actually that's true, you can see them every month

02:23 And the same dude was there juggling again. It was pretty funny, it was the same thing Same thing and they don't know who you are They have no clue absolutely zero zero clue and I'm in you know, and I'm looking at this You know, I had a long discussion with miss Mickey about this ham radio stuff which She's like I'm so glad you have a hobby and then she kicked my hobby in the nuts by saying, you know But I do understand why you want to talk with random dudes It's not about random, they're hams. It's not really it's not really about the talking with random dudes and they're like what is what really is it about this that I'm so attracted to? It's not it's not talking to random dudes. I think it has to do with the technology or maybe the magic of... The magic of the radio! This is the magic of the radio, I'm telling you. That's exactly what it is And then so something like I looked at that I saw there was a new episode of Ham Nation

03:24 Came out and like oh, you know now that I understand what's going on. Yeah? I'm gonna watch this episode of ham nation Oh my god There's an hour of my life all never ever have returned to me What was wrong with the show it's I mean all respect to Bob Heil for his microphone But this is like they're showing a guy soldering Literally, watch me solder this. And then they're like putting up an antenna and it's just like... But they do it the way you do a QSO or the way you talk on the ham radio but over back to you Bob! You know I'll hand it over to you. Then the funniest thing whenever they're talking about each other and this one is not okay. This is not okay ham speak

04:09 At least it's not in todays modern language. When they say, you know, hey congratulations on getting your general license I hope to work you soon. Yeah! This is not a good phrase. We're gonna work ya there buddy. Don't move. Don't move. It won't hurt. I'm gonna work ya real good Anyway so i am definitely getting an HF rig now For sure. I gotta save up for it, because these things are expensive! You're talking like five six hundred bucks. Craigslist? No but you know eBay and everything there's still it's five six hundred bucks John is not like cheap... Oh yeah yeah that's gonna cost you some money. Yeah and but then the antenna which is another point of discussion. Well there's all kinds of ways to go with the antenna we got a guy around the corner here on the other side of the Albany Hill thank God

04:57 No, really. You have no idea because you look at this and think NASA runs this guy's house! He has at least 10 different kinds of antennas. He's got big things hanging there... he's got big giant dish-looking things and then he's got like focused antennas and just random wires running through the trees It's just the whole place is covered with antennas Miss Mickey is listening She made me promise last night she was like Promise there won't be a big antenna in my yard And I'm like, let me talk to you about the antenna. And she's like, You're not saying promise and listen, I swear it to God. I'll put up an antenna that says I'm not an antenna. You know how on the 405 in LA when you're driving? You have those cellular towers that look like trees. Yeah, that's what I'm going to have. I am NOT AN ANTENNA! Anyway...I don't know what is is weird. It's like all of a sudden, yeah, I've created a monster. It's your fault

05:54 It is. I'll take full credit, but I don't understand that you had the potential to be like a real first You know first tiered ham which is like something? I'll never achieve What does that mean of first-tiered ham you know an extra involved yeah? You know you're gonna do and show it's a little bit things happen Changing legislation would benefit the ham community hey baby. I'm an influential ham Well, all I need is a good well it was it's interesting to see the software defined radios and the digital communication happening

06:31 Are you mocking me? No, it is software-defined radio is a big deal I first heard about those about 10 years ago and I couldn't figure out what the hell they're talking about. It's pretty amazing understand It's pretty amazing You can go to web sdr org and you can actually log into people's software defined radios And you can you can use remotely or listening to their rigs. This is pretty interesting Anyways, and I think that here would be the only thing I want to achieve. I think I can make Morse code cool again Now that I think would be very... That would be cool. It's a retro kind of thing. If nerd is kinda cool, that would be it Yeah! That I think I can do. I think I could make Morse code cool again Maybe the only way we communicate in the future Well this is what I keep saying

07:23 See, Miss Mickey is cool with everything as long as I add... You don't have an ugly antenna in the yard. That's kind of it and as long as I add the word apocalypse or prepper after each statement. Prepper? She like okay well if it's about prepping then she's okay with it but was about talking to random dudes she's not so okay with it. But I want to do Morse code with them. I want to send files through packet radio Okay, well I'm glad you had a good day. I'm glad you got that that's great yeah Well, you should get your general John. Yeah, just say yeah, I barely get this other rigs working even So we have the daily Morse code DailyMorseCode.com and and the show literally is everything on there is it a bunch of random dudes? myself included talking on on ham radios about how you're not there and

08:22 And it has to we do two episodes a day by the way, it's a good show is Dvorak here yet? Was he ever say he was gonna be here? No, he's never committed to it. But we expect him! You told me that you would check out the echo link stuff...you did tell me that I will! I didn't say i was going to do immediately Just get the app and pretend your on a radio He is writing down Anyway, forget about all that because this is of course the show known as... The Best Podcast in the Universe! And we are not the best podcast in universe just for any random reason.

09:08 Is because we... No, it's because we are. Yeah So we have boots on the ground We have boots on the ground An anonymous tipster Oh you want to go straight into Indianapolis? Yeah I think we oughta get that out of the way Okay cause I have some Well what were you thinking? Well I had some research on this What we're talking about here is this so called gas explosion in Indianapolis which I immediately called as a drone strike As the first American drone strike And I'm bringing up the email now. I have to kind of dart around, uh...I'm not going to say where our producer is exactly from but our producer is close enough to know what's going on. I am gonna read down this list a few points

09:52 That our producer sent to us and this came in by and it should be noted that this is really have not been discussed in the public domain at all But but this person actually is close to the media. So it's funny that The media wouldn't be discussing this did you get the the disgusting nature of that John? This person yeah, I know it is ironic as ironic is the word exactly okay Yeah, so here's the here's just the relevant list under the cover of darkness authorities were on the scene But would not let anyone else onto the scene no residents. No media nobody We even reported the gas company itself was saying that they had no idea what was going on or what happened Because they weren't allowed on the scene They didn't get to go on scene until after daylight broke about nine hours after the explosion happened That's plenty of time to get rid of any wreckage or anything else by the way I've received other reports

10:45 That there were two explosions. There was an explosion and then one about a little bit later I don't know if that was 15 or 20 minutes at about 1 quarter of the strength was estimated So no one's reported on two explosions A point to from our producer The end NTSB said they were on the scene because they quote controlled the gas up to the meter And they not well, they do control transportation Of gas according to our producer that's a bunch of crap because the gas company controls that part a Track that has not been explored anywhere. I believe no, this is a good one It has I think a little bit not this particular one But there are previous event took place yes that was discussed in the indie star We don't have a link right so we had the link to it That and when was this? This was just before all of this happened

11:51 A woman walked into Riley Children's Hospital and she, from that moment on a lot of people became ill. I have the story here Noxious Gas at Riley Hospital which remains a mystery Sometime before noon Thursday women visited relative at Riley hospital for childrens IU Health She grew ill but not enough to raise alarm Women told hospital personnel she wasn't feeling well Walked into the women's restroom What happened next caused an emergency room lockdown At the medical campus So she became ill then other people came ill and they were all complaining of a flowery odor in the air. So this could possibly be the same smell that people were smelling just before the explosion, so I don't know if that means a certain type of explosive gas necessarily? You know...

12:46 When it comes to natural gas, how they use in the household. They add a scent to it because it has methyl mercaptan to be specific right? Two other things our producer said there's a small airport within two miles of the South Southwest where the explosion took place and there is big military installation about 40 miles to the south were some sort of test aircraft could have taken off from So here's the angle. And let's don't forget the one point, which is that this whole thing took place some 10 miles from any of these military installations that you were saying were targeted so I don't even know why they got into this story it seems suspicious Well here is a link that is possibly...I wasn't ready to do this right now but I'll roll it out

13:39 So what is good the way this is going and this could have been a second half story because it's sounding like X-Files thing with this woman wandering into a hospital people passing out well Let me give you let me let me give you another data point then so who were the two people who were killed? No one's talking about that right So yeah, not to mention I forgot all about it. Okay? So one of the and our but you should also mentioned that a reporter says that the house was inhabited except that the owners were out of town weren't there Yeah, they weren't there by coincidence Conveniently so two people who died one is named Dion Longworth now Dion Longworth worked at a company called clips but also founded a startup called stray light optical and

14:30 Straylight Optical is... He worked at Klipsch? Klipsch. The speaker company? Yes, that's where he started. Huh okay right so it worked at Klipsch but then he founded Straylight Optical and the way it looks as stray light optical was working with a number of different companies including the couple of companies who work for Surrey Satellite so this is in Guilford where people keep getting whacked out there Remember in Guilford where I used to live? Yeah, the place you moved out of. I moved out of where people are winding up dead who work at Surrey Satellites and these are the satellite companies that that are tracking the poppy fields and they're doing it literally from Guilford so Straylight Optical apparently was in some kind of joint venture for... we don't know what it is yet but it could be any number of things

15:26 What's interesting about Straylight Optical, just to give you the level of connections. The current CEO of Straylight Optical Technologies is Kevin Williams who previously worked at the World Bank, the White House United States Department of Defense So this is obviously a the guy was involved in a defense contract But the link to Surrey satellites is the one that concerns me because we've seen several people suicide themselves who worked or worked in conjunction with Surrey satellites out of Guilford, so That's about all I have. So it would have been second half for the show stuff and

16:09 But they're never I'd never achieved the greatness of a second half story It's just it's it actually makes them start to make sense But who is the other person that died you only have the one guy Dionne Longworth. Yeah woman well, uh the other name Didn't pop didn't pop any nothing popped up This is the only one that I was able to find something on have the other woman's name somewhere and But I think the noxious gas is very interesting that this happened, that people were calling in sick just before the attack. I'm sorry, I'm saying attack but you know...I'm sorry, the explosion. So it could have been a hit job? It could have been a number of different things! The way its being handled is obviously extraordinary

16:56 Yeah, you think it was Roswell So luckily we have our producer boots on the ground and will continue to bring reports on that as possible yeah, we have in other words We'll have a accurate stories that you probably won't get out anyplace else said even though. We don't have any conclusion And we don't really know what happened at least we know That the media is feeding the public bullcrap as usual total bull crap And it's gotten pretty bad. It has gotten to the point and maybe we just dive straight into it, but I'm looking at this Israel-Gaza stuff This is wag the dog 2012 man where you got like Twitter wars back and forth tweeting I'm gonna kick your ass! I'm gonna kick your ass man! And meanwhile what are we really seeing?

17:44 I've been following a whole bunch of blogs and people are angry. The Israelis are so outraged, and it's time to stop! We're going to do something about this." And then when i'm reading from the Palestinians in Gaza is you know they're killing us... It's just.. You know? And I see some bombs, I see some smoke trails, and you just don't know. You have no idea what's real anymore but you can't take it all at face value My favorite is the torn between reality and a hard place that democracy now has to live with. And so they had this guy on there giving his report from the Palestinian side. They all seem to do the Palestinian side because that's where the bombs fall

18:27 Yeah, well they also did a balance it with an Israeli guy who was interesting too. We actually played both of these you get a feeling for but this guy which this is the clip Bogative Report This guy is going on and he's claiming all kinds of weird stuff For example, he claims that the Israelis are targeting a kindergarten There's a kindergarten let's blow it up They also said... now did you hear this story that According to this, the prime minister of Egypt came over and held a baby from the hospital in his arms. Right with all the blood on it? Yeah at a press conference and during the press conference the baby died No I didn't hear that part

19:15 No, no. kinds of real interesting linguistic crap that because this guy can barely speak English, but whatever he's saying is just a mumbo jumbo combination of accusations and non-confirmed information that is just terrible. And the fact that they run this whole clip as long, this whole clip with his jerk is unbelievable to me. Yeah, so good

19:52 uh... well there is also more of this attack just to bring more breaking news the Israeli airstrikes have targeted motorcycles in the west of Gaza city at the moment as we speak and ambulances are on their way to evacuate and people who were targeted and there's another new Israeli F-16 missile, we don't know if it's a 16 missile or if its armed drones which fired uh... and you're on the phone of missiles on the northern part of the gaza let me just mention something about back to the humanitarian situation today daily egyptian prime minister made a visit to the government trip i think i'm going to go ahead and he was able to see that this action in the damage goes palestinians

20:42 population and he was at Shifa Hospital holding one of the babies who was injured. And we could see that the Prime Minister, his T-shirt had a lot of blood in it from this child who's injured...who actually died in the hands of the Egyptian prime minister today as he was speaking to the media. Other thing that I would like to mention here about The crossings in the Gaza Strip, the Rafah crossing is open today. Kerem Shalom is closed. Erez Crossing was opened in the morning now it's closed even for humanitarian cases according to the United Nations and according to my observation and counting there are 12 houses that were completely demolished in the last three days about 150 houses

21:28 including mosques, roads and schools and farmlands are being targeted even kindergarten for children. It begs the question where the Gazans are going to hide when the Israeli F-16's are filing missiles day and night? All right, let me say something before we get any further into this job because it already starts the minute. This is why you support this podcast because we're about to have a conversation which is going to be devoid of the actual rift between Israelis, Palestinian Jews Arabs whatever We're going to be talking purely about the media The disinformation and the bull crap that has being bestowed upon peoples of the entire universe

22:13 So if you feel like you want to say this person's a Zionist Jew hater what you know, whatever do whatever you want But that has no place in our conversation because what we can do here for the very reason that no one can take away Our advertisers or shut us down is talk about the bullcrap The media is feeding both sides because it's already started. You know what I'm talking about right John immediately You love this time you love that. This is the whole point This is this is what the media actually wants to propagate you get these bullcrap reports and by the way, this is the perfect time It's it's actually quite great for us because we get to do And we get to do reports, you know, it's it's you know what a kind of report I'm talking about right John What no well Of course, you're like

23:02 John, John! Oh John I've uh... We'll be right back with you John. Here at the Gaza Strip. We have incoming we have incoming we have incoming Let me put my helmet on Actually while i was looking for that I found an even better one here check this one out This is a better-I love this air raid hold on Hold up come on come on baby don't do that to me now oh jeez oh god What are you pounding on? My magic trackpad. Oh, hold on I think I have it now. Magic track pad... Is that a mis- It's literally called magic trackpad here listen to this This is the one they should be using Isn't that cool? Isn't that cool why the guy actually cranks it around okay because here Here are the reports and you just got to listen to some of the reporting Because the media they get a huge huge

24:02 Boner for this stuff here. I hear CNN is the best what it looked like live on CNN International I will show awesome because we in on the danger zone just a couple of hours ago There's another attack there's another right now, we got to get out of here okay go Fred all right there you see it and the Thousands of rockets thousands of bombs listen, but listen to what he says He's lying ashkelon which is the sign that another strike is coming. Can we listen here? Now we have the impacts all calling weekend Did you hear the impact I'm sorry didn't hear an impact on we can stay on okay stay on We're with you. That's a good one. We should use that in our report John we can stay on where with you still there Yes

25:07 We gotta take notes on this so we can do a good half hour of these reports. Colleen, basically what just happened is the air sirens went off and we then ran to sort-of shelter that we have right here This is a residential building that we're in right here. We're sorta in the house. We've heard one impact just now which appears to be from a rocket The alarms seem to have died I'm sorry...I didn't hear an impact! I didn't hear a single thing He's lying! Lie down, were gonna sorta get up and wait No, no. Stay down. Stay down. Stay down. Now this one is the girl who's at the CNN headquarters in Gaza and she has Gaza in the background and she's got her helmet on I love it when they put their helmet on because it looks so goofy! No-one looks good in a helmet okay? You just don't look good unless you're in the sand and you've got like a scar on your face...you just don't look good in that

25:58 So she's got beautiful long black hair and she is standing there with Gaza in the background or whatever, a green screen. Who the hell knows what it is? And listen to what she says. Last time there was a major battle between Gaza and Israel Right now as I speak we can hear the sound of drones overhead We can also hear the sound of planes and that usually means one thing and one thing only That's a great line That usually means one thing and one thing only. Usually, one thing and one thing only. That soon we'll start hearing the sounds of bombs falling. Sarah Seidner CNN Gaza City Now if you are sure that it usually means one thing and one thing only that the drones will be dropping bombs why are you signing off?

26:43 Stay on the air. I mean, that's ridiculous. Stay on the air and you don't sign off when it's about to get exciting. Are you are you shitting me? No no no this is crazy this is crazy and I caught one thing means usually one thing usually means one thing or so and I called Diane Sawyer who now by the way I think she's if you listen to her she slurring Kind of not drunk, but like she's done Adderall and alcohol at the same time could be oh

27:26 Interesting. Could you imagine Diane Sorey just like going, all of a sudden she has an E attack on Stephanopoulos? George it's so hot for you. You rubbed my arm. God you rubbed my arm! She is talking to Christiane Annapur and this shows real bias of ABC I thought it was very interesting listen to the bias in this 20 second clip At this point, what is the US obligation to Israel for defense in this situation? But also... She does sound EED up doesn't she. Like at THIS POINT! What kind of pressure to exert The U.S has this historic agreement To defend Israel and stand by Israel What it hopes to be able to do is encourage Israel not to cause too many civilian casualties like what happened last time but beyond that Did you hear that?!

28:20 Did you hear the bias? Yeah, it's terrible. Not to kill so many civilians like what happened last time. Now Sir Grebulon who is a Jewish knight he's a sir isn't he Grebulon I think Grebulon is a sir. I think he is. I'm pretty sure he's a knight He sent us a handy little chart the Israeli election table as he calls it and I'm just bringing it up right here. So, he has date of operation, date of election next to each other and he starts off with the current November 2012 Pillar Of Defense that's a... And by the way bad name! Pillar Of Defens- isn't it Cloud Of Pillar? Isn't that what is supposed to be called? What is it? Is it Pillar Of Pillar? I don't know what you're talking about It's called Operation Pillar Of Cloud

29:11 No. Yes! This thing that is going on now is called Operation Pillar of Cloud, this is what the Israeli IDF has named it I thought it was a dome or something? No Iron Dome is the so-called defense thing that shoots the missiles out of the air Which is a crock if you think about it This is operation pillar of cloud starts in November 2012 with elections taking place in January cast lead That was the previous attack in 2008, December 2008 when elections were to take place in February 2009. Lightning Strike series of aerial attacks at the Gaza Strip kicked off in February 2006. Elections were March of 2006

29:57 determined path followed by Operation Defensive Shield that started June of 2002 with elections taking place in January 2003 so a little bit of space there. Then we have operation Grapes of Wrath April 1996 with date of elections, May 1996. So what Sir Rebulon is saying is that this always happens around an election to scare the people into submission and although I do not doubt that there's actual death and destruction taking place... ...I guarantee you that the media on all sides is cooking up a bunch of crock! And we should just- A BUNCH OF CROCK?

30:44 Oh wait, that's not the good one. Let's get the good one We should just do this again John because we-we can literally... Here. Stay down! We gotta stay down! Oh I just There was an impact! It looks like a- oh yes Iron Dome is working John! It's working! Iron Dome has now shot two grads out of the sky! We can get up now, we're okay OH NO NO Are you still with me? I'm barely with you there, Adam. Keep recording while you can! Alright this can mean one thing usually always one thing and one thing only we'll have more drone strikes well stay there stay there see if you could find being inside of one so you couldn't get one on tape see an actual bomb falling that would make me feel somewhat better

31:36 So there's a I have a clip we're talking about elections apparently this is even kind of confirms that but only But about our elections play old Israel and Obama Okay There are certainly There are various voices here within the administration and outside that warn Israel against another invasion of Gaza because one, the Arab world has changed. The environment in the Middle East has changed President Obama's attention to the Middle East has certainly decreased over the last four years he is less interested

32:12 in the escalation in the Middle East and more interested in the situation, for example where he is today. In China and South China Sea and so on and so forth. And certainly President Obama is not happy with Prime Minister Netanyahu and the way he interfered in the American election by siding with Governor Romney. Yeah bet on the wrong horse! Yeah, well actually that's not the clip I wanted but... That's the one you asked me to play. Yeah, I know it is but that was in my brain and it was mixed up. But just to take a quick... Just incase when something like that happens? I do have a clip uh..that explains everything In great detail and we should probably just go to it hit that clip And use as evergreen when you need to explain everything

33:01 Hold on. Clip of the week. Uh, explain everything? Yeah clip of the week explaining everything Oh okay I see what it is hold on You make...it's like you should have cued me that this was coming Because we committed for the year 2015 all together for ASEAN and ASEAN for peace and ASEAN for development If Cambodia develop and Cambodia well known for the world It mean ASEAN well known for the world too No, no. This is a combo clip. This is a combo clip. Fascinating stuff there! Fascinating! Just fascinating on the scene reporting

33:59 Did you see the Skype promotion though did you catch that one no big Skype commercial? Oh, you didn't see this guy's commercial. Oh here. No you hear him describe the situation where he is This is so they got a guy from Israel on Skype and a guy from Gaza on Skype oh And we have the woman, the CNN woman in the middle. And that guy there's like bombs dropping on the Gaza guy. Sorry, well that is one thing. Carry on with your question. You can say anything you want to. You can give everything

34:45 Yeah, you can hear everything. I'm not going to comment on anything that is going on outside. So he keeps saying, I'm not going to comment on anything going on outside where... so of course we don't know if these are bombs or what? We have no idea because the guy's on Skype with a crappy connection and you can already hear Skype is starting to break up You know, you and I have this experience where it gets a little fuzzy The only thing was missing was the guy going Healy quite honestly You can hear everything. Mama, what was that noise we just heard? Sorry? What was that noise we just heard? Was that coming from outside? These are Israeli warplanes forming the Gaza Strip. You can hear it right you can here its about to disconnect. Listen let's carry on our conversation We need a decent place

35:36 Yeah, you can hear all that by yourself. I'm not going to comment on it and allow these bombs to interrupt me from having this debate with you and your guests Let's agree on one thing. Let's get this... You know, this game of who is the victim and who is the victimizer out of the way so we can talk about more substantial issues There are no pure victims in this company But Now when you talk about Palestinian rockets... If Israel can start aiming for Israel and intentionally targeting, intentionally targeting Israeli civilians I might as well do it.

36:37 We're back live now. You heard that last boom that interrupted our conversation there we want you to know the Mohammed is okay? Oh, well this bogative he's okay. We don't want I was blown to smithereens John Report that Adam is actually okay I'm okay. It's alright. I'm over here now let me get them first of all lets bring one thing If that explosion took place in real time, how would they know he's okay? Well she said we're back live so I guess this was a pre-recorded... Bullcrap. They could have cut that out! But I think whenever you start to cut out we just... Oh my god it's obvious a bomb fell on John sorry but we hear he's okay and can talk now

37:34 Anyway, yeah. It's just so but you know what I mean? It's like yeah there's bad stuff going on But but people please I mean I'm following I think Brian of London It's one of our producers who lives in Tel Aviv and he is, his blog is pretty interesting. On the BBC they show a picture of Frischmann Beach in Tel Aviv and underneath the caption it says Gaza you know any then there's then the Palestinians have this great video which I think was also on the BBC There's a guy lying on the ground and as if you can identify him very easily because of the shirt he's wearing and his beard and his whole... He's identifiable

38:14 And then he's lying on the ground, you see a whole bunch of dudes rush in pick him up. You know how they...you know you see that? That's the video we always see by the way is carrying some wounded guy no visible blood or anything and then 10 seconds later in the same report the dude just walking around He's literally just walking around and people are starting to catch this. They're starting to see this stuff because you know, they're so horny for creating it for showing whatever it doesn't matter as long as we show something As long as we show you something, and now with the advent of Twitter people will read a tweet and believe it. And retweet it like its actually happened! You are not seeing anything real my friends. Not to say that there isn't something going on but don't let it go to your head please

39:06 So I had one, uh...I'm not going to play a bunch of these clips but I do have one from one of the, I think it was Al Jazeera or something and this is a clip which I call non-news from Israel, is actually a report that goes on and on and there's actually no content. Wait! Content free news? Content free news that they got a space to fill and if you listen to the report it sounds like its exciting as something going but then you start to analyze that there was nothing said. Israel strikes at the heart of Hamas leadership in Gaza

39:41 The offices of the deposed Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh are reduced to this. If the Israelis destroyed our buildings and household, they cannot undermine our duties we will remain servant to the people who are supporting their government and resistant forces. Air strikes in the north too, rescue teams search through what remains of this house in the Jabalia refugee camp The neighboring homes were badly damaged as well

40:18 Me and a friend, we were the first people on there. And we pulled him out. First thing, we pulled the little baby We thought he was dead but he was okay or she was okay Then we started digging in and tried to get one at a time Thank God we got them all out This house belonged to Abu Hassan Salah. His brother is the leader of Hamas in the northern Gaza Strip, but Abu Hassan himself is not considered a significant figure This is the third time the Israelis targeted this house. The neighbors say they're mystified, as far as they can tell the people who lived here were just a normal family Another senior Arab official visits Gaza It's the turn of the Tunisian foreign minister Now this... Hold on There is no real conflict Thank you Al

41:11 So of course this is Al Jazeera, they're just like Israelis bad Israel boo third time you blowing it all up. Wait a minute hold on a second this third time? They've hit the house three times with missiles and the place is still there?! I know bull crap! And they blew it up! They came back and blew it up again! Wait a minute...I've got to play this report ummm I don't know who ummm may have been probably CNN When she starts off with things, do you know how this whole thing apparently started what the meme is as to how this? this conflagration Conflagration how it kindled and escalated have you heard what the What the initial event was

41:56 No, as far as I'm concerned this has been going on for three or four years. There has of course been a long-standing dispute between Hamas and Israel but this most recent spate of violence started after Gazan officials say an Israeli military helicopter shot a 13 year old boy in the head earlier this month. Okay now let me just say something... What? A shot?! Let me just say something. The helicopters You know it's not like they got a little like 9 millimeter, like a 22. This is 50 caliber if you try to just blow the shit out of everything It's like the kid would be obliterated and he was like oh I shot him in the head No If a helicopter gunship shoots you no matter where on your body it hits there's nothing left of you They're picking up little pieces of clothing...if that so this is a bullcrap story now listen to

42:46 Now they got some guy from the Knesset. Of course it's all about the election, so bring in a politician right? ...leading to the recurring rocket fire attacks from Gaza into southern Israel as retaliation Is Israel sir taking any responsibility for this recent wave of attacks? Oh sharp questioning there CNN Randy, let's speak about the facts. The fact is that today there is no Jewish settlement or occupation in Gaza and we see hundreds of missiles flying from Gaza into Israel into civilian population I don't see them...I have not seen hundreds flying into civilian population Iron Dome is stopping them We ask ourselves why? Why they are doing so It all coming from Iran So you cannot blame any incident I love it! It's coming from Iran Now hold on a second

43:36 Hold on a second. How many American presidents have sworn over and over and over again, if it's fact that it is from Iran? Why are we not there? Why aren't we right there protecting our ally, our most important ally! I don't understand John why aren't we not there all we say is well Israel has the right to defend itself. Why aren't we there? Why aren't we sending in troops? Why aren't we doing this? Isn't this what we've always promised time and time again? Explain Well, it's possible that the situation is exaggerated. Oh okay! That it was just a promotion for the elections?

44:16 Yeah, the election seemed to have something... yeah. Don't you remember during when Bush was getting re-elected they all of a sudden before the election there was bunch of orange alerts and... They brought in their terrorist attack is imminent! Imminent I tell ya! It was just like, you know and then later they finally did five years later. I mean well yeah we did that for political reasons it's like you know they should have been arrested and jailed for doing that anyway. It's electioneering. It's election but so luckily though thank goodness amidst...and this is in the United States of Americas of the Gitmos

45:02 Thank because I said to miss Mickey. I said we need a celebrity scandal soon or we need you know A celebrity to kill themselves are overdo it We need some celebrity talk because you know break, it's not brown see that's not balanced You know with this is got a break break from this so thank goodness? We have the Twinkies company going out of business and I do have a full report on this with some again a very fine job of asking the public what they think of this and of course we get great insight when the news media goes out with a microphone just ask somebody on the street what's important. Yeah, asking to sell their assets facilities even the brands themselves The company says it was already unprofitable but that the recent strike at the Baker's Union made it impossible to continue They say 18,500 people will lose their jobs nationwide I mean I'm sad but at same time

45:59 I'm going to stand strong. You know, I want a job but enough is enough." Despite the news union members continue to walk the picket line they say they won't stop until the court makes it official still production in all hostess facilities was shut down today all workers told to go home we're gonna see if we can put them in different locations We have different other bakeries and candy shops consumers wish it had ended differently 18 thousand people going out of work because they can't sell a contract It doesn't make sense. All they can do is scoop up the Wonder Bread, snowballs and other items that remain. Well luckily I still have Ho-Hos in my freezer

46:37 So here's the travesty of it. The travesty, and this is how typical is this for America? Luckily I still have ho-hos in my freezer Well just at the moment where we legalize marijuana they're gonna take away Twinkies This is the worst thing in the world! How can you imagine this?! This is so wrong...this is so incredibly wrong Yeah, so by the way all the women that they had saying oh this is terrible I got I get the last week Twinkies. I got ho-hos in my freezer all fat yeah you think Of course it's sad because that is look at the only thing that will be left after the nuclear holocaust will be twinkies and cockroaches

47:18 And that is a great combo. You get your protein and you're tasty at the same time. Yeah, and they have a nice crunch. Hey speaking of crunch John before we move on let me say to you very big in the morning Well in the morning to you Adam Curran, in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground subs and water feet in the air. And also all of our knights out there who give us continued support which is apparently necessary especially during this holiday season when everybody's having fun but us. I would like to say a big in the morning to you of course John C. Dvorak and to all the hams on the air at EchoLink node 3373. I think we'll do a net after the live show today. We'll do a net. You gotta join us for the net

47:58 And of course to our human resources in the chat room always there To give us a chuckle and to anger me when necessary at an origin a stream calm no agenda chat on that into ridicule you and I would also like to thank let me see our artists from the previous episode is super Leon Who was we used as a super leones album art on no agenda episode 461 and we're looking forward to what? We find today at four six two, and that will be it. No agenda Art generator calm Not good today This is exactly you said and if we were talking we actually had a conversation yesterday Which were not supposed to do and it was setting up your mumble which of course subsequently broke again today And it was actually miss Mickey who called us out and said hey stop talking together

48:48 And we and then we just can that's pretty rare yeah, but you actually said not good for today and I think he's like you know Nana good and then it something happens just before showtime and The only thing well luckily day mastered came in with her Her a celebratory contribution to the show celebrity celebrate II celebratory celebratory contribution Yes, we want to thank our two executive producers one is executive one associate for this show which is number four six two and Dame Astrid which actually would have been in the last show at five five five dot five five short and sweet She says though. I do believe John would look even better in non stinky candlelight Yeah, she's okay. She's referring every first of some photo that's flown around no no I think she's

49:42 referring to you warning me for the candles around the bathtub. Oh yeah, you and your candles around the bathtub! That's what she is talking about. Because lo and behold here she comes with big donation because she knows I'm sensitive man who will draw bath for his woman and put candles around the tub Yeah i can see doing that. Eye coating technology in Poe Think it's power poway poway Poway, California home of the hundred and twenty nine million dollar bond that will cost us over a billion And came in with two hundred one two hundred one dollars and he wants to karma with chemtrails. Oh no problem You've got karma technically that's chemtrails with Karma but I

50:38 I think it's the right way to go. And that's all maybe you wanted it the other way around, but that's fine But that's it yes all we got pretty much yeah well That's let's call a shortfall. I will say a short fall today now We do have Thanksgiving coming up and by the way Uh, there was discussed. We also discussed after our show last show we did we do a little after-show discussion about what was good and bad about the show it's called The Postmortem it's done in everything and uh... we It turned out that when Adam asked me about doing the show on Thanksgiving he wanted me to say no I don't want to do a show on Thanksgiving Are you busting? What are you doing here?

51:21 And then it turned out, I'm telling the story like you said we have to tell nothing but the truth. Okay and... But yet you have to say why? Why? Why? Why? Why? And I said why? Well he said oh well you should've said something and then it turns out that he doesn't play his daughter. Uh-oh! You're breaking up John. Oh no wait a minute Okay, now I... That's one way to stop me. ...I wanted to go see my daughter and I wanted to go after the show on Thanksgiving so because i'm flying against you know into the time as it were so I could get there for Thanksgiving dinner in Los Angeles but as it turns out there's zero flights going that would get me into Los Angeles at all and so I said well

52:14 Whatever I said and then but then you know my daughter. She's smart she says screw it dad I'll come to see you so that you can do the show So that you can still make some pittance of money, so you can give that to me Well sure why your kids say? My kids don't care. And so, uh... So here's- but I think the real logic that you actually convinced me with which we've overlooked in this whole thing is that Thanksgiving is a very USA centric it's not like Christmas You would be- Which you celebrate the whole world over We know what's funny? Do you know what's funny? People hear because people know that Mickey is going to Turkey and she's gonna stop by

52:57 her home in Amsterdam. I think we should have a turkey at Thanksgiving but going to Turkey is a bit much But when people say, so what are you doing for Thanksgiving? Well I'm gonna be home alone because Mickey is going to Europe and then she said... And I swear to God 100 out of 100 Americans will say Well, how do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Europe? I'm not kidding and it isn't until you point out that you know They didn't kill any Indians in Europe. Did they go yeah alright people are so stupid Literally, so how do they celebrate? They celebrate the same way we celebrate. I swear to God look at you know We have to again go over the old true story of Thanksgiving which I've published every year Yeah, and nobody pays any attention to is still a cock-and-bull story about two pilgrims and the Indians having a meal together with Mater Dee I guess

53:52 I don't know with the wine list on a turkey and stuffing and cranberry sauce What a crock of crap corn in corn on the cob corn on the cob sweet potatoes with marshmallow sweet potato with marshmallow Okay, well they propagate this bullcrap story in the schools. Of course they do of course they do Course this with the other schools you come schools or do you call them training centers babysitting centers? Training centers. Yeah training centers. Yeah, yeah anyway so we're gonna do this show We're gonna do the show on Thanksgiving The bottom line is things not good things not good today But we're gonna do that we have to do the show because today is very low You'll see the segment will be short and it wouldn't make any difference if we did this show or not I'm convinced of his same with Sunday

57:55 And so I'm like, you know, I can't stop myself. These things that we've got are so outstanding that I am forced to do this. It's just a reaction. The brain is working against me. I go it. I know. You're good with me bro! Hey, by the way Formula One racing as we speak. Oh yeah how's that going? Is it all the douchebags in town everything is cool I have not seen... We went into town yesterday You haven't seen one douchebag? I have not seen a single douche bag. We went into town last.. Yesterday to go to the market which was open It was little smaller and I think

58:33 Austin is actually handling it very well. We have a part of 5th and 6th Street is all blocked off, and that's where you have Verizon and Pepsi and Pirelli... What is it? Fan, fan plaza or Fanapalooza or some crap like that. You know we can... It's fun you know for the kids and they have little concert stages and stuff and food trucks and drink but it wasn't very busy yesterday ummm.. And my understanding is a lot of douche knuckles had partied the night before so they all hung over and weren't coming out on to the street But, yeah 65 thousand people were at the COA. The COA as we call it here. The Circuit of Americas yesterday just for the testing rounds and I guess the race started a little...I don't know what time it starts? I'm not paying attention but it looks like we're handling... The testing round is also called qualifying Yeah qualifying there you go. Yeah this...I'm so into Formula 1 F1 as we say here

59:34 Of course Aerosmith was out at the track on Friday and performed. They did... Meh What? No, that's cool! It's just like they all have their walkers with them I mean this group Oh oh Aegis Oh we're gonna be aegist Is that what were doing all of sudden? Oh i'm sorry I ran into an Aerosmith fan That's bull- that's not okay I mean if I had said Green Day would it have been cool Yes! That's so uncool. Hey, forget about that we're here I think I have clip of the day and I've got clip of the day for you So the Benghazi hose and heavy weapons With Petraeus and General Allen all this stuff has now morphed into something hilarious where were now it's racism that there were those old dudes McCain

1:00:30 Was it Lieberman who don't want Susan Rice to now become Secretary of State? No, no. It wasn't Lieberman. It was somebody else. Whoever... Yeah McCain and somebody else again. And by the way let's stop right here because you know Susan Rice... Stop! Yes so what is it about Very interesting. I believe, let me just before you go into all this stuff...I'm gonna say something in front of this. I believe Hillary is the one that set up Susan Rice to fail. Could you say I do believe because that's what everyone says? is behind this whole thing because I'm asking this question of you. Yes, why was Susan Rice the UN ambassador? That's like a human ambassador to Spain you got these ambassadors she's the UN ambassador Why was she sent out to all these talk shows one after the other after the other with a cock and bull story about the movie and then now she's the one eating crap for it

1:01:34 Do the in Ted Petraeus has already said we didn't give him talking points that said anything about that and I answer somebody else rewrote? I think it's upset up can I answer the question is Why do we hate Susan Rice specifically cuz you hater all right. Oh, yeah Yeah first let me answer the question with the clip that proves that there was a cover-up. I have just spoken to someone... I'm sorry, it's CNN saying they've just spoken to someone. ...a longstanding source who has spoken to David Petraeus this is someone on his level professionally

1:02:10 uh... this person is directly familiar from portrays with his thinking was the traces thinking about what he will tell congress tomorrow about the big guys the attacks david betray us wants to tell congress that he knew almost immediately after the september eleventh attacks that their group answer all sharia that al-qaeda sympathizing group in libya was responsible Right. So it's pretty obvious that this was talking points were changed or whatever was changed and Susan Rice was sent out at her boss is of course the one who

1:02:57 So Clippity-Clop sends her out for one very simple reason. She does not want another woman in the State Department looking good, because she knows Susan Rice will work her butt off and I'm just gonna say it if you are trying to run for the first female president and you have a rival who is not only female, oh but she's black. Oh man she's worried! This woman this Hillary Clinton is such a bitch please let me remind you of this woman two clips it all I need to play So that is the land of unconfirmed videos We came we saw he died It's almost too delicious to believe my friend This is the woman will go out any lengths

1:03:45 We'll kill anybody. Google Clinton body count, she has killed her partners and friends. Killed them! I'm sorry, suicided them. No way would she want to have an attractive woman be anywhere near her campaign for 2016 This was a deliberate indirect attack on Susan Rice Indirect Without a doubt She hates her, she hates anyone who stands in her way. She needs to eliminate everybody! She'd much rather have John Kerry in there... Some douchebag who married into a rich family that she can totally manipulate and control And please I mean John Kerry he's an idiot

1:04:27 He's a real... Remember he ran the Long Dong Silver Congressional Hearing? We played clips from that. Do you remember that? It was against... That's so far in the past I can barely remember it Yeah, but you should try an Aerosmith concert see if you remember the lyrics I was never an Aerosmith fan ever Really I always thought that the group was this clone of The Rolling Stones and it was like, you know with an uglier lead singer. It was just like... Well, it reminded me of a group out of Berkeley back way back when which only a few people who ever recall called the flaming groovies And the flaming Grooves and Aerosmith were on this same league as far as I was concerned wait the flaming Groove ease hold on a thing and How do you know about said band? The Flaming Groovies now they're a local local band like Green Day's a local band. Yeah

1:05:25 Yeah, Green Day are almost as old as Aerosmith. Ladies and gentlemen I bring you the Flamin' Groovies! High Flying Baby by special request from our buddy in Berkeley John C. Dvorak! Woohoo! Nah it's nothing like Aerosmith No i'm talking about the composition of the band with the ugly lead singer Oh just how they look? Okay alright So um okay so the thing has come down to Susan Rice for whatever reason I think the way this was done, we will assume it was Hillary. Yes! I thought it was a work of art. It's extremely smart she was three steps ahead of everybody else she knew what is going to come out as a cover-up how cool is that?

1:06:17 And so we got some notes here for you to just follow these talking points. Stay on message, stay on message! This will be a test for you in the future when you get promoted to this next job to see if you can stay on message. Here's the message So there are couple of things that are happening now and the funniest thing I found is that we had a group of Congress women from the House Democratic Caucus come out to defend Susan Rice and blow hard my favorite blowhard Norton

1:06:57 You know I'm talking about the congresswoman from DC who's not allowed to vote. Oh that phony congresswoman, yes has no vote. Norton Holmes whatever her name is. She's terrible she's a blowhard yackety yak miserable looking person i hate her me too so she comes out and she literally insinuates that this is about her being black and being a woman. Now, now this is hopefully you've seen that clip on the news because what people won't show is her preamble just to show you how stupid this woman is what an idiot this woman is listen to what she says of the senate seem to be unable to contain themselves while we await two ongoing investigations into the tragic attacks in Bengali Libya which

1:07:48 Bengali, Bengali Libya. Oh it's good she doesn't have a vote as she is the most arrogant woman I mean oh remember I encountered her at that screening when we were in DC the escape fire movie yeah and she's a big shill anyway so this very interesting how how this is playing out and now The Economist This is how the media, the mainstream media is really just piling on. Talking about how it makes no sense there was a cover-up because no one benefited at the fundamental level according to The Economist, the reason it is absurd to suspect... ...the existence of a cover up over the Bengali attack... ..is that such a cover up could not have had any conceivable goal

1:08:52 You see how this is done? So there could be no cover-up. Because why, there was nothing to cover up! Nothing I mean nothing at all! Nothing...nothing Why the hell doesn't it work when I can hit it? Piece of shit. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Look! Nothing at all Well It's a damnest thing I've ever seen But its The Economist you know so Economists are kind of insiders inside baseball but a lot of people take it as extremely

1:09:29 serious and real, real, real reporting. Well it is taken that way you're right Meanwhile over in Gitmo Nation Deutschland we have Lieutenant General Mark Hertling who was the commander of the US Army Europe stationed in Germany he quietly retired out the back door Yeah, and I get all kinds of emails from because of course we have a large contingent of producers who are in the military saying This is weird because when a guy like that retires Typically you got you know. You got fighter jets You got you know military marching bands now What's his name again hurtling hotel? Hotel echo Romeo tango Lima India November golf

1:10:22 According to spokesman Bill Roche, it was Hertling's quote personal preference and his desire to focus attention on serving the soldiers and families of the US Army rather than on his retirement. And he wished as he wished there was no U S army Europe ceremony to mark is leaving another general is out this is the top brass we've had the top guys taken down in that span of six weeks And the economist says, there's nothing going on. Nothing to see here and no cover up nothing went wrong of course this is where 30 of the other people we've never heard from or who were at the consulate were shipped off to Germany off to the base there where they were interviewed and of course nothing has come out about that This is where we could have easily have sent firepower should we needed it? Or should we actually requested it or allowed

1:11:22 It would have come from this General's command, I presume. So what do you think is going on? It's hard to say John... Our initial idea that there was a hostage situation gone wrong, which we have our own version of... Oh no I'm not talking about the Benghazi. Oh that could be what you're saying yeah No i think the hostage situation gone wrong is it is done as a deal to make sure Obama got re-elected and of course the irony was he got re-elected anyway but she would've anyway well this is the same thing Nixon did by the way

1:11:59 He was gonna get re-elected but he was paranoid. So that's why he did the whole... so it is a fractal, it is a total fractal of Watergate! And uh... That is ironic. You're surrounded by a bunch of people which doesn't trust and you can't believe when they say oh you're gonna win and no I don't think yeah you're lying to me. But why are these generals? Why would this guy in particular Hertling and a few these other guys they're not in the loop on that There's no way. But they may have been told to stand down or they questioned something, or there maybe there who knows? I don't know you don't know what it what's going on that upper echelon well this is why you have so many alternative theories about um you know a repeat and of course everything in his it's all been done before about the business plot you know where the businesses had colluded this actually happened where businesses colluded with uh the army to attempt a coup whose presidency was that John Franklin D Roosevelt

1:12:54 And then it was, was it Schmedley who thwarted that? Butler-Schmedley or Schmedly-Butler I can't remember which one. Yeah General Schmedley. So maybe there was... He wrote a book about it. War is bunk he says something like that No I thought war is Wars hoax. It's not war is oaks Medley Butler is a racket I think is the wars are racket it is I like right? Like war is bunk better I think that should be the title of your book War Is Bunk War is a hoax. War is bogative, there you go war is bogative. So Smedley Butler's his last name his nickname was Old Gimlet Eye also he had three nicknames old gimlet eye which is a drink the fighting Quaker and old duck board

1:13:50 I like giblet eye better. That's... I like gimlet, gimlet! Oh can we call it giblet? Not giblet! Your eyeball looks like a giblet! That wouldn't be good Meanwhile looks like Jane Harman is being lined up to be the replacement for Petraeus Which would put it... you know, I... What? Yeah. That's the rumor yeah Jane Harman everyone is talking about her. There is no way! Jane Harmon is an idiot! Gee and she and an idiot will be put in a high office this is strange to you okay. Let me see what happened. When she quit on the 11th of February when she quit Congress to head the Woodrow Wilson Center

1:14:43 CIA front, no doubt. Nope! Duh... Maybe she's such a good business. She maybe she does a great job. Maybe that's just training You know give her that one and see what happens. Oh, well let's give her their real job It was possible yeah It's completely possible What I find interesting is that McCain is now saying you know we're going to filibuster Any nomination hearing? Yeah And this isn't it is great think it's smart To focus that this is what the president did very very well by calling out McCain and saying, hey you want to take on or pick on someone your own size. Pick on me! I think it was very smart he did that because he diverted the media's attention away from the obvious elephant in the room which is what really happened in Bengali and of course McCain... You gotta think McCain just playing along. He's-I think McCain is actually a shill for Obama And like you need a straight guy, you need an angry senator

1:15:49 Every single time you need a controversy McCain is right there. He's always right in the middle of it He's all he's always available for an interview I get I bet you $1 I could get McCain on my on the daily the Daily Source code I'm telling you like probably good cop would say hey, we'd like to talk to a senator McCain on The Daily Source code oh yes We have an opening You guy is on every single show yeah? You have to call his booker and then saying He's saying he is going to filibuster a Senate confirmation hearing. Do these people not know that confirmation from the Senate is no longer required as to the law? Well, they like to do their lip service to it. Do the American people know that this is no longer required? Are we still gonna go through the motions of just having Senate confirmation hearings? You're asking the wrong guys! These guy are crazy. Yeah... They really are

1:16:46 They really are. But while we're on crazy, so this thing shows up in the Federal Register which I've been told have ruined a couple people's lives You have? Personally? Yes People like by telling them about the Federal Register and that you can look at that and read all the... Oh! So they're in there now just spending all their time grinding through this stuff Exactly Exactly That's of disservice Yeah right A disservice So here's one that was brought to my attention, actually bad Chad there in Denver who is always looking. He has my drug connection he is going to get me some of that no stray spray. Yeah you need it! He carries that in his EMS pack incase he needs to induce labor. Huh? Maybe pump out a baby. But it can also just be... It's like ee, just ee

1:17:42 So he pointed out to me a $6.5 billion sale, because when you sell arms as in weaponry which is kind of what we do here when you sell it outside the country you have to report it so summary notice the Department of Defense is publishing unclassified text section 36B1 arm sales notification We are selling a THAAD which stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, space weaponry to Qatar. And here's what I find interesting is it is the government who was making the sale... It really opens up your eyes when you see this stuff but its not

1:18:32 It's really the government are just the sales guys and then behind that is the contractors who are actually selling that stuff. So here's how it works, we have companies of contracts with the government commercial companies most of the American economy works for these companies And they then sell this stuff to the US government, who then I guess turn right around and sell it to some other countries. So we're selling this to Qatar for $6.5 billion dollars and then they have the gall

1:19:11 Let me see that you know like kind of like a little side of warning because of the sale You know some government officials will have to escort the contractors to Qatar so, you know it'll be an extra cost To the United States Because we're facilitating this sale but all but I mean this is this is the government selling stuff How come the government won't like represent our podcast? That would be great right Yeah, we have to do their bidding of course but no one would notice. No not at all This proposal is an interoperable with other BMDS elements and can be accept cues from Aegis satellites and other external sensors as well as work in concert with the Patriot PAC-3 this is an anti missile defense system that Lockheed Martin developed like obviously here's this here's the sales pitch oh these Iranians are gonna they're gonna be

1:20:04 Killing everybody you better go. You're better guarding against it. There's missiles are gonna be hitting you next Oh, it's six point five billions and just spit in the bucket compared to your safety US government and contractor technical logistics personnel support services another related support elements estimate estimated cost 6.5 billion dollars Six point five billion dollars Wow. This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country, Piaf for now that has been and continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East The proposed sale will help strengthen US efforts to promote regional stability Really? How's that working out so far

1:20:59 The principal contractors are Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Corporation Sunnyvale California. Who else is in Sunnyvale? Google! They're next door in Mountain View. SGI Subcontractors Raytheon Yeah the Patriot missile folks Oops did I lose you So this part of Iron Dome It is This IS Iron Dome But I just found it kind of ironic Let me read another thing from Missile Site terminal high altitude area defense system is a mobile land-based weapon program designed to destroy short and medium range ballistic missiles in their terminal phases Just seconds before they explode over US cities and military assets Yeah, yeah Yeah, just in seconds before they hit sure. I love the pricing though so they break it out

1:22:01 Uh, major defense equipment 4 billion. Other 2.5 billion. Other? I wish i had a line item that was other. Hookers and blow 2.5 billion So if you don't, if you can put the dots... Go ahead. In the late 1990s however THAAD missed six out of eight of its attempted intercepts and many dismissed a project as an expensive failure. MCA decided to backtrack. We're sorry. That engineers reworked the entire system and fixed many of it's inherent problems in other words it doesn't work It's like the Patriot thing You're holding it wrong

1:22:43 It's actually a pretty funny looking system. We need to have a rubber band around your THAAD system because you're holding it wrong The typical THAAD battery will include 9 M1075 truck mounted launchers Awesome Each launcher is 12 meters long, 3.25 meters wide and carries 10 missiles." This is just... this is funny! But I would like the Department of State at least to propagate our podcast. There was another thing that pissed me off it's getting quite annoying where is it? I think it was under Ministry of Truth yeah here it is

1:23:23 Hearing from the White House in a new way. Listen to this, read this article from the White House blog The White House is always looking for new ways to help Americans engage with President Obama and the rest of his administration So we're excited to launch our official presence on SoundCloud A social platform devoted to sharing sounds including recorded speeches and music We record thousands of hours of audio here, while many speeches and recordings are already on whitehouse.gov and our YouTube channel we're excited to have a new way to share those recordings with the American people! But they just... like anyone has some douchebag thing called social they'll promote this is great for SoundCloud. Yeah no kidding

1:24:14 I got a couple more things on these missiles. Oh, please please in June 2012 this just recently fake electronic components from China have been discovered in the thermal weapons sites delivered to the army for the missile defense agencies THAAD! It's THAAD! So apparently they've been getting bogus components This is just well you know what? I say good for us Because why because we're broke country or broke country. We need those sell all this junk that we can oh Okay, I get it go good for us right okay? Good for us Yes hmm you know if these guys are dumb enough to buy it they got nothing but the dead a TV I mean there's a bunch of

1:25:03 I mean the Middle East still has issues in Bahrain and now, I suppose it's the one...I thought the news was interesting because what is going on and not reported of course by our news system is the Abdullah situation taking place in Jordan. Oh tell me? I have two clips. Okay One is let's see what we got here. Abdulla the other is right now George Yeah, that's a second clip The first clip is the one on the Jordan revolution as nobody's reporting on us back to King Abdullah It was the fourth day of unrest in Jordan The demonstrations began over rising fuel prices in a country which has so far been spared brunt of the Middle East unrest Kate Parkinson reports from Amman

1:25:51 The people want the fall of the regime. It's the slogan of the Arab Spring that has been heard across the region and now, the revolutionary cry has arrived in Jordan. Triggered by rising food prices but rooted in frustration over lack of political reform endemic corruption and ailing economy, the protest movement is gathering momentum across the country This is not just a demonstration, this is real revolution against corruption and against one man rule. The people want to change We have two years trying to tell the king that we want to reform the regime The King don't listen to the people

1:26:39 It is a real revolution. I would like to point out that all of the non-lethal weapons such as tear gas and sticks that we beat the people of Jordan with are supplied by our US fine military industrial complex And so I don't know what's going on there because it is not being reported for crap and we all have these guys look like a bunch of Saudis if you ask me. And i think there something going on there but they, cause they had this Saudi headgear But then there's another report which is Abdullah, the good guy. And in there they mention blood... he's the blood protector. A lot of people don't realize but Abdullah is the only one I think his lineage is the only one that exists that is direct from Muhammad. Oh! From the Prophet himself? Yeah. It's a direct relative. This guy so he's like a distant cousin or kissing cousin and what is he

1:27:36 No, I think it's like bang bang bang straight out Wow. That's not everyone agrees Can we get her a glass of water or something? It's really a problem and on the other side of the police line The anti-king slogans stoked tension among supporters of the monarch The king is above us We ask God to support him and make him stronger I swear if I reach them our cut their throats because the King protects them all with his blood The demonstrations started on Tuesday and have spread across Jordan. Some have been violent, and dozens have been injured. One protester was killed

1:28:16 Jordanian authorities have said they will use an iron fist against anyone who incites violence But the protesters say they will not stop until there is real reform and real democracy Kate Parkinson CCTV a man, you know We've got to have an iron something people got Iron Dome iron fists. Do we need like I don't know Mike Mike Tyson let me think oh we need like The Iron Dildo. John, really? This is the best you can come up with?! That's called a Steely Dan by the way it has been done. How would you know that? Dude! I am the MTV guy. That's why i know what a Steely Dan...that how they come up with their names. I'm filled with trivia like this

1:29:12 And you know what? That's why they were called Steely Dan. No, they named the band after a metal metallic vibration device Wow I didn't know that. That's good stuff It's probably on their wiki page Well i doubt it Let me find out I'm gonna check them right now I'm pretty sure that's going to be on their wiki page It has to be something like Iron Barbie. You know, something like... it has to be a dichotomy. We've got all following Becker remain inactive. Iron dishrag! Something like that you know? Formative years would they recount Red Balloon I don't see it How about iron lung Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak with their iron lung

1:30:10 It doesn't say it in here. It doesn't really well that should be added that let me do let me do a yeah We need to add it Let me do a search on dildo now you do steve Steely Dan. Okay, here it is. Being fans of the Beat Generation literature Fagan and Becker named the band after Steely Dan 3 from Yokohama a strap-on dildo referred to in the William S Burroughs novel Naked Lunch. Yay yay! There you go awesome wow mm-hmm Iron Tea Bag we need to have something

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1:51:46 I'm not quite sure. It's they're douche friendly, I don't know it's so friendly this it's a little concerned but particularly we have you know startups and you know we have an incubator here and we have all kinds of angel companies never once like oh man we should get Adam Curry involved in the you know I do some meetings and then yeah I'm like okay no I can get some maybe some consulting out do some stock like yeah really so I think i'm gonna the only other thing I think illegality is where I have to go. I think that's just about the only place it's right for me. Illegality? Like what?! I'm thinking of doing daily source code once a week and having people donate because it's totally illegal to do that, just having people donate

1:52:38 You know people donate it's not nothing illegal playing music is illegal and oh yeah, you shouldn't do that You're just asking for trouble and accepting money for well But that's the only thing that seems to work for me nah. Nah nah now you can't do that It would be asking for trouble home Just you saying no you can't do it makes me want to do a more now Yeah I know That would be the way it goes and that was beat that'd be my way of getting rid of you finally Finally you could bring in your real co-host The guy from ham nation Bob Heil Very good, you know I got a new mic design that just finished this week. Well. I got this hot air soldering machine Get the camera on this thing watch It's heating up right now so Pito bear is it's very interesting what's happening in the United States of Gitmo Nation East? Known as the UK's

1:53:34 So they arrested another guy. They arrested David Lee Travis, who used to be Jimmy Savile's BBC colleague. So it was just like anything not focus on the politicians, anything at all and now I heard the most amazing... It is a little bit long but two minutes The most amazing piece on BBC where they are literally instructing you to not tweet pedophile about anybody because you can go to jail and the way they package this. Wait, wait, wait, say that again? Okay so on Twitter

1:54:15 Or in the United Kingdom, there are certain things you can and can't say. And this whole piece is masking as... Oh you can't say that on Twitter because... That's because of that guy that was mentioned and then unmentioned and now he's suing everybody, that guy. Well no! No, but he was mentioned in a report. This is different But what but he isn't he the one suing all the Twitter users that pass his name right now? Hold on a second bear with me. Bear with me This is different John when you hear the report they're masking it as What you can and can't say on social media, but the only example given by the same woman Continuously is pedophile and I believe they are now instructing The slaves of Gitmo Nation East whatever you do don't call out anybody as a pedophile

1:55:05 Because of course they don't want that. I'm sure this is exactly what is happening where people are saying, hey those guys are a bunch of pedos out there sitting in the House of Commons That's your point you're right People would think twice and I disagree that people don't understand what it is Everybody knows if you call somebody a paedophile thats damaging whether your shouting at them in pub or putting them on the news Unless he IS one! Or you're saying online...people understand I think what people don't really understand is that on the internet you can actually be identified. There are procedures, your computer leaves a track and you can be identified through your internet protocol so people shouldn't think there's a cloak of anonymity We could identify you through the internet protocol The difficulty is though say when we look at social media

1:55:53 is when you retweet, for anyone who doesn't use Twitter 140 characters someone say a celebrity you admire or thinker you admire they say something and you think it's interesting so you retweeted. So you haven't technically said it but almost have agreed with what they're saying, this is the problem people don't realise that that also is libelous. Yeah I mean if you retweet something then you are repeating the libel and the rule in libel is anyone who carries it, anyone who repeats has a liability for it whereas previously that would have to be done by broadcast or print

1:56:30 with Twitter then just one button, retweet and you've done that. And that's what people are doing very easily and perhaps as you say someone they respect or they think is interesting and they do it almost without thinking but they have repeated the libelous material Christian, how does it vary? We've talked about saying something to somebody face-to-face and putting something about them on Twitter or Facebook or whatever. But how does it vary if you're talking... is it different putting in print or on the internet from actually talking about them at the bar and pub behind their back as well I mean its really hard to get an idea of where the boundaries lie are you prepared to say it in the pub

1:57:09 Does it matter if you put it online? Yeah, well there are slight technical legal differences that will probably send all your viewers to sleep between saying something and printing it. Broadly speaking to be liable is just say something you need some kind of additional damage so... That's called slander! They don't even know the difference! It could affect your career or would be a criminal offence but calling someone a paedophile would be enough So this whole thing is you can't libel somebody by saying something that's called slander. It's a different it's a different uh, it's different. It's not the same almost exactly the same. You know libel has to be written but it has to be broadcasted. Has to be somehow in some medium that is not just chatting if but you can slander somebody that way which is still you know you can still assume over there but it's a different kind of what the law is different

1:58:01 But what this whole conversation is, but I'm just saying they're idiots. Okay? Of course is whatever you do don't retweet someone else saying someone's a pedo. I think that's the general consensus That's the message of warning Yeah Because they can track you through well to be will be sued into oblivion if you continue on this practice Doing this sort of thing You would be done it pretty good at that I like that. Because we can track you through the internet protocol. Not tolerated... Okay, well the thing that i was kind of tracking was the fiscal cliff Yeah very interesting how this is and in fact I think I heard Candy Crowley this morning for those for those who outside the United States have Gitmos The fiscal cliff and let me get let me take a stab at this John then you can correct me

1:59:03 It was now known as the Bush tax cuts. This has changed a little bit in the bush to era There were tax reductions across the board for all Americans and these are set to expire a lot lots of rules and Regulations have sunset dates expiration just like bad milk, and this happens January 4 December 31st or January 1st And there are more taxes coming where everything goes back up for everybody and the continuous debate which has been going on forever is rate keep these tax breaks in place except for people making over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and And so somehow on January 1st Literally as Candy Crowley said the economy falls over the cliff. This is a new one It's no longer the fiscal cliff it's the economy will fall off the cliff which to me sounds like bullcrap In fact, I have a clip you want to hear saying that

2:00:04 Sure, I love hearing Candy Crowley. All together for ASEAN and ASEAN for peace and ASEAN for development if Cambodia develop and Cambodia well known to the world it means that ASEAN is well known to the world too There you go, Candy Crowley It's starting to make more sense Candy Crowley everybody So uh The thing is bogative right? No no the thing is real and its going to be a problem for everybody It's actually not just the tax because the butcher, yeah you pull that back but you also have sequestration which is the big number which means that the military is going to have their budget pulled out from under them and all of that money isn't going to be spent anymore. So no one is gonna get paid? And then we also have the payroll tax break which gets pulled out too and I think there's something else

2:00:50 So what happens is that it creates a, it collapses the stock market and then everything goes in the tank. And what they're going to do now they're working on this two part way of fixing which is essentially kicking the can down the road by saying well we'll let it slide for six months and we will work on it later. Meanwhile nobody's taking it seriously like you uh... in the senate there go there on vacation here play couple clips on this here is First play, Erskine Bowles. Both Erskine and Simpson. Simpson Bowle's was the act that was thrown together to fix all our financial problems and nobody is paying any attention to it so these two guys have gone on the road and here they are at a think tank

2:01:32 discussing some of the issues with a bunch of smarties in the audience but I've got three clips one was Simpson on The Little Guy, Erskine Bowles on The Senate and The Cliff and then he explains why this is a problem. So let's start with Erskine Bowles on The Senate and The Cliff and you get a little background on this. You know doing it across-the-board you go in there surgically can try to do the things that have the least adverse effect on productivity so So today, you know we got 48 days left. We just went through this election Isn't it amazing that during the election at all form of debates The word fiscal cliff was never ever mentioned not by the reporters and not by the candidates No, was there ever mention of the solvency of Social Security for 75 years or?

2:02:21 or what to do with Medicare, which is on an unsustainable course. I interrupted but you know to think the debate took place and nobody ever got into the two big things that are driving this country. Every day every news organization saying 48 days 47 days and what's a Senate doing? The Senate went home! They're only going to work 20 days. If this was a business you'd be working, all hands would be working in trying to resolve this issue So these guys believe neither one of them believes actually they're betting play this clip here betting on the fiscal cliff And and the only troubling thing I see here really troubling is You have Democrat leaders and don't forget the leaders haven't helped us at all

2:03:14 In any effect, really. In any effective way they're there They listen to us and they tell their position but they really haven't been out there But what's disturbing me is that word is around That maybe the Democrats could gain if we do go off the cliff That's out there. And then the Republicans say, maybe we could gain if we go over the cliff I think that's disastrous to even think in those terms and Muzurskin says that's like betting your country All right, so now this clip here is... Hold on a second. I got a question here. So what I just understood is that both parties think that it's advantageous to them if we go over the fiscal cliff for different reasons. So they both think that its groovy.

2:04:07 Now, can I just interject one thing here? You said you put me in the same boat with a bunch of assholes by saying you don't take us seriously. I would like to respond to that for a moment Well, go ahead. It's not that I don't take it seriously it's that I heard from a very wise man That we are in the 40 or 80 year cycle and everything is inevitable It makes no difference what you do In fact, I've repeated many times that this cycle is like the sun rising and setting Alright alright alright And there's nothing we can do about it Touche okay? All right

2:04:42 You're right, and I think that you do believe that too. You do believe! Okay just want to make sure... Now, I'm amused by this and by the way the recent polls have been done show that Democrats would benefit more than Republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff because apparently the Democrats are much better at blaming Republicans then the Republicans are blaming the Democrats and that's what this amounts to. So here is the description of what is going to happen, and I believe it will happen as all part of a cycle. You're right. Erskine explains the fiscal cliff results. This is what's going to happen when we go over it.

2:05:21 I had, uh... oh. You said there were three cliffs? I had three but there's four. Okay. A couple years ago you were the guy that said we're gonna go over the cliff and i said no and now I think they will go over the cliff Erskine holds out for about a 30% chance Yeah, I just think we can't be stupid enough to do it We can resolve this problem now by making some very tough but doable compromises. If we go over this cliff and we don't reach a deal immediately thereafter, here's what will happen and I think that is about 1 third probability that we are going to go over the cliff and nothing is going to happen What will happen is you'll see Moody's and Fitch downgrade our credit they'll join S&P who may take it down again

2:06:10 You'll see a stock market that will say, God we never thought these guys would be stupid enough to do this. I think you'll see a stock market that will really crash and I think you'll see businesses really slow back on hiring, they'll slow back on their capital expenditures, on their investments. I think you'll see consumer confidence go down and we will really be facing a mess because what happens the economic effects of going over this cliff are enough to slow economic growth by about 3 percent. We're only growing at one and half percent today so that's enough to put us back into recession, about two million people will lose their jobs and unemployment will go back to 9%. Why would we do that when there are good alternatives that we can do by simple compromises now during the lame duck session?

2:07:02 Sounds like it's gonna be fun next year. Yeah, oh it's good for the show. Except if no one can send us any money that may not be so good for the show Well there are just enough survivors of these things and most of our listeners are well positioned to maintain their spot in this scheme of things Hi, are you a survivor? This fiscal cliff please remember to donate to The No Agenda Show It's the best podcast in the universe.

2:07:39 There's one last little clip that I have with Simpson who is talking about the Simpson-Bowles Act and how people are always condemning him and Bowles because they want to take out the mortgage deduction. And he's, this is a long thing, I have a short piece of it but it was a long thing where he was saying most of these deductions are for very few people as a scam and the mortgage deduction in particular says they're not really eliminating it, they're just capping at 500 $500,000 as a deduction for your mortgage interest and he asked the question... Interest? Yeah. Per year! Wait a minute so right now he says that what's your interest payment half-a-million a year but what kind of house do you have in the White House

2:08:27 That's that's the point yeah, and he says it is bogus because he says who has who is taking a million dollars off an interest income for their house What do they own? Yeah So anyway, so he blasts the whole...the naysayers here. Home mortgage interest deduction? What'll happen to the housing industry I said well- Did they beat him silly after he came out with this report is that why it sounds like that No, he's doing a voice Oh, he's doing your voice Yeah, he's doing a voice This is a bit Yes, a bit! He's doing schtick Okay Home mortgage interest deduction what will happen to the housing industry I said well probably we'll survive It was a bit!

2:09:06 Who is he doing? A Republican Senator? He's doing the public at large complaining about this. That's great, let me play it again. Home mortgage interest deduction... what will happen to the housing industry I say? Well that-I can't get beyond that John hold on a second This is how this guy thinks the American public speaks? What are they going to do about the home mortgages? This guy's an asshole! He's from Wyoming, so enough said. Doesn't matter the guys in A-hole... It's not the point of it but go on. Home mortgage interest deduction what will happen to the housing industry? I said well probably we'll survive because we didn't take.. We said take it who's getting a million bucks who's benefiting from a million bucks

2:09:54 in home mortgage interest deduction. We said take it to 500,000 and then give a 12 1⁄2% non-refundable tax credit to everybody which helps the little guy if everybody would quit talking about the little guy The little guys is going to get hosed in this process if you do nothing There isn't any question about who's gonna get when the tipping point comes and they say you're dysfunctional, and we want more money for our money. We know you're addicted, you've borrowed 16 trillion so since you borrowed that we know you want more in fact you borrow 3.6 billion a day and 41 cents every day on every buck you spend

2:10:36 We're going to give you more money, and inflation will kick in and interest rates go up. And guess who gets the hammer in that one? The little guys...the middle class! What a fakery!" Hey, good news though. I got good news the if you're in Nevada City Go and get your license now a police chief says he's found a one-of-a-kind way to manage a growing problem in his city And it's putting homeless on the hot seat A new law would give Nevada City the power to hand out permits to a small group of homeless Giving them permission to sleep in public there you go

2:11:15 Get your homeless license now. It's right in, perfect! Get your homeless license if you want to be sleeping outside get your license. Get your license right now everybody. Yeah a homeless license that's good one it was like a dog license yeah I think the dog license is cheaper but we gotta be careful with this because last night Miss Mickey really got depressed she had been working so hard... You should see her next project by the way she's doing something amazing That she had caught up on like two or three no agendas in a row She was really depressed We're trying not to be depressing, but I think if you listen too many of the too much of this yeah You know what? I think we're a lot different than all these other news analysis shows and even one thing where course were better But I don't think I think we're light-hearted enough. Oh

2:12:10 That we don't do this to depress people so they go out and buy canned food. Or you know, they use crazy seeds. We don't want you going out and buying seeds! And then by mailing this to the guys who bought the seeds. Seeds! Buy seeds! Get some seeds man! It's Glenn Beck's job let him sell seeds... ...and gold Yes, gold seeds and you know uh... Storable foods. Canned foods. Storable foods. Storable food a...a...a...a...a flashlight that has a handle you turn With the radio! With the radio. With the radio just in case I mean come on

2:12:58 All right, let me give you some entertainment. Bill Clinton who cost about $200,000 to have him come speak at your event was what an ad he was in at an advertising conference in the Netherlands in Gitmo nation lowlands and So the so someone posted some video on a secret YouTube, you know where they don't publish the link But of course the link was sent to me immediately. So there's good There's only 24 views there will be several more after we published the show notes and And by the way Before you go on I should mention that people that

2:13:36 I would go get the show notes as soon as possible because i can assure you that once they figure out somebody else got the link, they'll kill it. It will be gone. Go while you can. It's like a 24 hours of advertising conference and its for a bunch of advertisers or advertising executives so not advertisers So Bill Clinton is telling these people how to advertise better How to sell crap people don't need To buy stuff with money they dont have essentially And of course the video is like, this was a very inspiring speech by Bill Clinton. And I just took a minute of it... Of him explaining what he's really talking about lying Just about out and outright lying. A company strategy is to explain Explanation is empowerment

2:14:28 In a different... Keep that in mind. Explanation is empowerment, this is big. Where did you get that? Explanation is far more important than eloquence. Eloquence sounds in a difficult situation like a smoke screen. Explanations says I trust you with the truth here you are now empowered let's talk about what we're going to do. About where we look at the Democratic Convention President Obama joked that he was going to make me Secretary of Explaining Things. And we all laughed about it, and I'm not sure I was very good at it but I sure tried because I thought about all the times in my own life... Forget about politics! So now- About all the times in his own life when it came down to telling the truth saying hey, I trust you with the truth? I'm riveted!! I can't wait to hear it!!! If you ever had a problem in your own life

2:15:35 A child who seemed emotionally disturbed. A child who was emotionally disturbed? What, Chelsea?! Is that what he said? He said I thought about my own life and then he comes up with two examples the first is a child who is emotionally disturbed okay. A thorny business problem that seems immune to resolution. A thorny business problem? You know what happens to the Clintons' business problems? That's what happens to the Clintons' business problems! The beginning of letting go of your fears and embracing the possibilities and thinking clearly is simple understanding, explanation it is empowerment. Explanation...it is empowering Then you can say okay, what are my options

2:16:27 And let's go. And then he gave me the final how to deal with the truth, to trust people with the truth. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky. I never told anybody it's a lie and not a single time. Never these allegations are false And I need to go back to work for the American people. Explanation is empowerment, Bill! Okay... $200,000 and you people sat there? Send some money to the No Agenda show, you idiots! You sat there listening to a pathological liar! A douchebag! And you got a heart on for it! Disgusting! I trust you with the truth my friend. Bull crap! Lying sack!

2:17:28 People forget these things you got a reminder from time to time Joe. Yeah, that's the fact I agree with that fact It's not just fact it's So there was one more thing that was going on as we wind down today's program Strangely enough no one really talked about it but they tried to bring back the cyber security bill and And here's a little piece of Lieberman. that was held in August and failed to get 60 votes, much to my... Now listen very carefully what this bill is about because Lieberman lets on something here. He's messaging by the way he's messaging not to the American people because this is on C-SPAN and nobody watches that except the people who produced his program This is a message to lawmakers but also to the president because we got do something about this. ...disappointment

2:18:37 I'm very grateful that Senator Reid now gives the Senate a second chance to do something to protect the American people. Oh, what are we in protection against? From cyber attack and cyber theft. Oh, cyber theft! What could cyber theft really entail? Stealing of copyright So this guy is a douche extraordinaire. He's saying, it's cyber theft! Because this is what it's about... They don't give a crap about you or your bank account All they care about are big corporations who are stealing their stuff It's theft And Madam President if you just look at what has happened Since the cloture vote on the Cyber Security Act failed back in August I think you will see

2:19:30 how urgently we need to seize this opportunity at least vote on, uh... to proceed to the Cybersecurity Act. Okay so um... Needless to say it failed So I'm fast-forwarding through an hour and 45 minutes, some of which was very interesting. Feinstein was talking and you know the Kay Bailey Ray Hutchinson whatever her name is from Texas but let's just go straight to the end where Harry Reid rolls it out and gives us the final word It's not enough so everyone should understand cybersecurity is dead for this Congress What an unfortunate thing

2:20:16 But that's the way it is. Cybersecurity is dead for this Congress, it's dead! So here comes wait for the executive order Yeah yeah that's probably what's gonna happen Apparently the president released a PPD, a presidential directive Which is not published these things are unpublished. There was a lot there was actually a publication the Washington Post I think even said that there was a Presidential directive, I think number 20 or something There's not a lot of these but no one has a has the actual text of it But of course it will protect copyright and do very little to protect you. Oh, it will shut you off Of course You know if you have bit torrent running or something? Yeah Even if you're downloading the no agenda show It will actually shut you off now that's what's gonna happen this is why you need to get your ham radio license yeah, yeah, that'll fix things so I can talk to random dudes and

2:21:19 Hey man, what are you doing? I'm in the...I just pulled into the driveway. Weather's good over here! Yeah well, gotta get in the house. The wife has been really on my case because I've been in the car talking on that radio too much she says. I think that technical term is someone pulling my sleeve. Pulling my sleeve. Alright and then there's a...well Europe of course now officially in recession Because they had two quarters of economic Regression Stagnation what and no not stagnation they went down my regression. They went down Yeah, minus is 0 point 1% whatever still to keep me the euro too high for my taste So they say but they call it Oh Europe has gone back into recession really Have you looked oh? And this is a this is interesting We have something in the United States called double jeopardy where you cannot be tried twice for the same crime

2:22:20 Right. So you remember the journalist Costas Vaxivanus who published Lagarde's list of 2000 Greeks who had, you know, took all the bribes and tax evaders and basically the elites? And so they let him off and they're just bringing them back to say oh we have new there's new evidence it's just gonna try him again They didn't try him the first time I thought that'd just let him off No they did but it got thrown out And so that wasn't just a letting off, they actually said okay you're free to go and now they're bringing him back. And he's going in the clink I think. Yeah well that was expected. Hey talking about onerous things play the clip which everyone wanted to play this is kind of interesting because the United Arab Emirates which includes Dubai and all these crazy places they got some new laws we should be aware of

2:23:13 Abuja Nigeria The United Arab Emirates has tightened its internet laws imposing strict penalties for ridiculing its rulers These amendments to an existing law were issued in a decree by the president Law also bans calls for public protests and it lays out strict punishments for things like human trafficking or prostitution online Okay, but prostitutes online is you know prostitution online interesting Back page. So anyway, the hammer comes down Well but yeah we're gonna get that everywhere I mean this-I don't think this is anything new No it's not just wanted to give you a heads up

2:23:59 What like I'm looking for prostitutes online is that as a you? Hey, buddy. Thanks III didn't realize that when I mean the United Arab Emirates I shouldn't be looking for prostitutes don't go on Craigslist when in you and the UAE hey buddy I really appreciate that so cool of you Thank you alright. I'll be on the nets for the 3373 ham radio fest It's called Ham Fest yeah You're not doing Twitter are you No, no. I think Leo is on vacation he just has one of his crew running the thing Yeah...I guess they're not asking you to come back to host anymore Uh..that seems to be the case yeah They like me, they don't like me I'm glad because you were too good! I'm glad Why don't we do another show? Can't we do another show with a round table thing You're good at that And can i be your Ed McMahon

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