Lucy the Luddite

00:00 we gotta go to a break Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday September 30th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 448 This is no agenda Celebrating Carmageddon 2 here in Los Angeles In the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i've never even heard of Carmageddon 1 I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill Yes, you remember Carmageddon we had a whole conversation about it. What was it? Remember when they closed the 405 and everyone's like oh It's gonna be the worst thing ever in the whole world! It's gonna be scary And of course was all just so all the cops could get overtime Oh yeah Yeah So they have Carmageddon 2 this weekend Overtime too Exactly overtime two and let me say

00:57 A very happy National Cybersecurity Awareness Month to you, John C. Dvorak Yeah happy awareness to you too No no it's National Cyber Security Awareness Month Yeah that's what I said! No you didn't say that and please say it again National Cyber Security Awareness Month National Cyber Security... National Cyber Security Awareness Month Squirt! That's right We are celebrating by presidential proclamation of course It doesn't really start until tomorrow, but I figure most... Oh! Coincidentally with Oracle World. Oh really? No wonder there's any connection. You know there are almost like no connections anywhere

01:39 I mean it just makes no sense. It makes no sense! There's no way we would have like, cyber attacks for National Cyber Security Awareness Month? This Thursday we're going to tell you more about that in a bit but we begin tonight with cyber warfare the most extensive attack on American banks ever. I might remind you this is George Stephanopoulos and this is ABC News who of course are the most compromised news organization in the universe And, uh... you know it just might be coincidence that they have this report during National Cybersecurity Awareness Month. Launch from the Middle East happening right now! Citigroup JPMorgan Chase That's a bumper sticker isn't it?

02:23 Launched from the Middle East. Launched from the Middle East, happening right now! That's right everybody! Sounds like one of those kicker lines for some sleazy online web show. Yeah if you see me... Launched from the Middle East online right now! That's right 30 thousand nitro burning funny cars. We're going to tell you more about that in a bit but we begin tonight with cyber warfare The most extensive attack on American banks ever launched from the middle east happening right now City group JP Morgan Chase Bank of America Wells Fargo US Bancorp and today PNC America's biggest banks with millions of American families locked out of their accounts online So what does it mean for your money? Who is behind it how long has it been happening? Officials across the government are tracking the attacks working to keep them from becoming financial nightmares so before we continue with this report I

03:16 This is obvious psychological warfare on the American people. And is the PNC Bank, is that a big bank? I'm not familiar with it. Never heard of the PNC Bank. So, i want you to listen to the voiceover which accompanies this package which George has just led us into and listen to the stressful quality of the voice urging you that this is clearly an attack on our cyber infrastructure ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas starts us off Tonight the financial and banking industry is on high alert as a massive cyber attack remains underway. Potentially millions of customers trying to bank online this week blocked

04:00 But not now potentially millions of customers. Not saying it's just happening, you know, just potentially Among the targets Bank of America PNC and Wells Fargo There is an elevated level of threat The threat is now high Sources tell ABC News It's a denial-of-service attack where hackers from the Middle East have secretly commandeered thousands of computers worldwide Now for those who don't know anything about a denial service attack The whole beauty of a denial-of-service attack is you can't pinpoint an origin because it comes from thousands, tens or sometimes hundreds of thousands of compromised home based PCs around the world. So for them to blanketly state this is coming from the Middle East and I think they pretty much mean Iran by that is false!

04:56 Would you agree, cyber expert John C. Dvorak? I'd actually call it a lie! Oh okay thank you Those computers or zombies have... Zombies?! Overwhelmed bank websites with a barrage of electronic traffic Different banks have been targeted on different days Today was PNC's turn We tried for three hours to get on PNC's website but we couldn't get through This-I love that little insert! We tried for hours to get through the PNC Are you clipping your nails again No, what are you doing? I was opening something Mm-hmm on Facebook today frustrated customers Cynthia Schrimm wrote trying to pay bills. This is ridiculous now listen to these of course our uh You know when you when you reading something from Facebook obviously

05:44 It's true, and these are you know sort of these are real sourced comments And this could not in any stretch of the imagination Be planted comments like this one Stacey Briggs Gerlach posted. Hopefully it can be up soon never realized how dependent I am on it A group of hackers calling themselves Izzahdin Al-Qassam warned the financial industry it was going to attack in retaliation for that controversial film that sparked outrage in the Muslim world. What is it Islam video? No work yeah, right. Yeah, okay? This is great movie Nobody's seen ya the scary thing Is that even with the warning the attack could not be stopped threats are getting now listen who's this mr.. Bill

06:39 Be quiet because you gotta tell me who they brought into this report. Hold on, let me roll it back a second here. Increasingly sophisticated US suspects hackers in Iran may be involved This is the first time that we know about where a Middle Eastern entity Do you recognize the voice? Is that bonehead Clark? Yes! Yeah, they bring in Richard Clark. That guy's in... They always bring him in! What does he know about anything? Well he's a shill He doesn't mean- He's totally ex spooks shill And anyway, he is the consultant for the uh- Nice guy, Borky Rhodes supposedly. He's a big genius about this Heaven forbid we actually ask it through you know somebody who actually knows anything This guy came along I'd like to sit him down and start questioning him about things

07:27 Where's the power switch on the PC? At that level. Oh, you mean stuff like what is in dot MSI file there you go some Middle Eastern government has attacked websites of critical infrastructure in the United States The hackers have not been able to steal any money these attacks or disrupt financial markets But authorities fear the next generation a wide scale cyber assaults could be far more devastating oh Inside the banks they can move money around and cause financial chaos. Okay, so now we've gone for shut it down We've gone from a denial of service attack to them getting inside the banks and moving money around That is quite a stretch by the way Just being a sight it's a lot different than

08:16 the site. Alright, let's wrap it up here. So Pierre, the hackers are blanketing the banks with these attacks right now but to reiterate the bottom line so far everyone's money is safe Oh, so far. Wait John! So far? So far our money is safe Does that imply that eventually it won't be? Is that what he's implying? No no... He says SO FAR we've gotten through the day. So far we haven't been shot Well this is not only implying but its a set up for his reporter to take it one step further That's right George, to be clear no money has been stolen yet. Not! Not yet! Not Yet! It could happen at any moment Many people trying to bank online could not for a time get access to their accounts you can see how that could make it difficult for small business so thats why tonight the government is working so hard to locate and block those ongoing attacks Right and this of course is again National Cyber Security Awareness Month

09:15 Now, before we get into some very important clippage from Lucy Napolitano I would like to congratulate our No Agenda Knight Mr. Smith who was interviewed by the Associated Press and right off the bat said... let me get this article here Here we go One expert said He was suspicious of claims of responsibility purportedly made by Islamists angry at the anti-Muslim movie made in the United States, explaining that the widely circulated internet postings might have been an attempt to deflect attention from the true culprit. In the intelligence world we call that a false flag said Mike Smith whose web security company Akamai has helped analyze some of the attacks

10:03 And so we can actually had a couple other really good quotes that is Noah Jen the knight hitting him in the mouth as we call it. Not that I made any difference, but we appreciate it! So of course during National Cyber Security Awareness Month you know there's all kinds of symposia These symposia are often broadcast on C-SPAN and I was able to catch a number of them and one of them had an interview besides little stand up routine, a little interview with Janet Napolitano our Department of Homeland Security Uber Lord. And a Q&A session afterward. Actually because she's working on the executive order

10:53 In fact, we should probably play that clip right off the bat. So we know this executive order is coming and we've seen a draft of it and this is a guy from the National Review. The National Journal? It's the National Journal I thought was National Review No! I think he may be from the National Review. The symposium was National Journal but I could be wrong What's his name? And so he asks about the executive order that is pending and how far it can go, and what it will mean. This is of course because the legislation in both houses has failed to pass

11:31 So we do not have a cyber order and it's pretty clear what it all comes down to, what we really want to have. And this is a very familiar setup but let's listen to the question and answer from Lucy. Some questions from the audience here that I'm going to ask when it goes back to executive order because its more specific than what... By the way questions from the audience were written down on cards so of course it's not really a question for the audience who are there just playing words with friends on their iPads This is a setup question. And this was one of those times I think. Where does the president's authority begin and end regarding a cyber executive order? Can he issue the Lieberman Bill, meaning some of the bills that were on the Hill simply as an executive order? You've answered the second part of that question but sort of the question is where does it begin and where does it end? Is that something you're looking at and do you know the answers to that? I like this question! I find this to be a perfect question so can't just take the Lieberman bill

12:45 which includes the most important point, which is allowing commercial companies to share information with the government while being completely indemnified so no liability they can't be sued for breaching your privacy. That is the number one deal John as a constitutional scholar where would you say that president's power begins and ends when it comes this executive order. Can he just take the Lieberman bill and just make it an executive order? No! Why not?! Because you can't, you can't just start legis... Then what's the point of having any legislation at all? Just have the president dictate whatever Well I think this is a constitutional question

13:31 Yeah, the Constitution doesn't allow for this. In fact half these executive orders are illegal! Oh how... This is not a dictatorship, although I guess maybe it is. I'm sorry. Whatever the president wants to do is fine Yes Let's ask constitutional professor Janet Napolitano Well, I'd start with article 2 of the Constitution There you go. The United States and the powers that derive from that, and there's a number of Supreme Court cases that follow that but you begin with the president's responsibility to keep the nation secure. There you go! There is your answer it's the George Bush answer I might point out

14:14 It's very simple. I've got to keep the nation safe, that is Article 2 of the Constitution. I can do whatever is necessary to achieve that and obviously these denial-of-service attacks which originate in the Middle East are here today these are clearly of national security concern so you're wrong John! You're wrong I figured that was. The administration ran into a problem and if you all are doing this essentially by fiat, you're going to be accused of circumventing the legislative process, issuing orders perhaps the way... You're drawing analogies too executive authorities it was practiced in previous administrations do you worry about that? Well i think again congress has had a full opportunity act

15:00 So if they're not gonna do it, then we'll just have to... They're not going to do it? Yeah. We'll just do it! I love that. Isn't that great?! You know they've had the opportunity and what the next thing is gonna be you know Congress had its opportunity voted against it yeah What idiots! So this isn't right. They had their opportunity to vote for it, but they blew it and voted against it so we had to take action. We had to take over well it's interesting because in this next little piece She actually explains what this entails, what are the real issues when it comes to national security. And she slips one in there which for Janet is already frightening just to think of which has really nothing to do with national security but will of course be included in

15:49 in the executive order. Listen carefully. More recently, cyber attackers penetrated the networks of companies that operate natural gas pipelines and computer systems in critical sectors of the economy including the financial nuclear and chemical industries are increasingly targeted Hey wait a minute how come I didn't hear her say it? Oh here is some sorry my mistake possible gateway to a catastrophic attack The word cyber security encompasses a broad range of malicious activity from denial-of-service attacks to the theft of intellectual property. Oh, okay! At least we know it's about the theft of intellectual property... ...to intrusions against government networks and systems that control our critical infrastructure There you go So, of course Congress failed to pass SOPA and PIPA etc., CISPA

16:49 So obviously we're going to include intellectual property theft as a concern of national security. That's a good catch! And now the kicker, and I was a little dismayed Because I actually watched this thing Thursday evening. It's like oh my god No one has seen this no one's looking at this and then I was like, you know and like last night I saw one or two Postings on the news network about it in this morning You sent me the same clip. I was like, I'm sure to nail clipper of the day And here it is, the best question ever asked of Janet Napolitano with a stunning answer. Take it for granted I mean we you know we...I'm sure I don't know how if you practice two-layer authentication with your email and do you have multiple passwords for your accounts? It ultimately comes down to some level personal responsibility and we don't always integrate into our lives and we just sort of treat as afterthought until something bad happens Yeah that's why um..you know decades ago nobody put a seatbelt on when they got in the car

17:53 In fact, cars didn't even come with seatbelts. We need that same kind of cultural awareness and change more quickly where cyber safety is concerned." Do you integrate it into your own life? I mean do you have Amazon and iTunes accounts separated in the different passwords for everything? What does your personal cybersecurity look like?" Okay, don't laugh but I just don't use email at all really yeah. Yeah because it's too time-consuming or for security purposes For a whole host of reasons So I don't have any of my own accounts and then that you know, I'm very secure. Yeah You're off the grid so I thought about this and

18:38 And so obviously the reason why she claims to not have any email is she doesn't want to be culpable in any of the incredible shenanigans that go on at the Department of Homeland Security because that, of course, is always how they nail you with the discovery documents. You don't think so? I don't think so based on one of her answers. When he asked specifically why she didn't use the email and then had two conjectural responses that she refused to address and say, I do it for a whole host of reasons... Yeah! ...I honestly believe that she doesn't know how to use a computer at all. No you're kidding me

19:15 No, I'm absolutely convinced of it by the way she's responded to that. Well...I don't believe she knows how to use a computer at all She doesn't even know what Amazon is This is this is a person who has been a government official all her life She was a governor you know government officials. She was a governor Yeah She was uh..she's been working for Homeland Security which is essentially a book You know she's got secretaries and helpers and all those people Take a memo! Yeah? She is the old-fashioned style executive that literally I believe cannot use a computer at all. She doesn't know how to turn one on, she wouldn't know Windows for Macintosh this is a complete embarrassment to the entire population of the United States that we have somebody running a department like Homeland Security and discussing cyber security and just obviously

20:01 mouthing platitudes about you know denial of service attacks. She doesn't even know what that is I'm totally convinced of it there's no evidence to the contrary and if you listen and i'm actually going to say that uh, I think i'm gonna agree with You if you listen to this little follow-up that she adds To this uh to this admission um, yeah, I think it plays right into your uh your thesis here Some would call me a luddite but uh, you know, there you go she's even saying it i'm a luddite Yeah, it was a Luddite. A Luddite? In today's world, a Luddite is somebody who doesn't like or use computers. So following on this and I'm glad you deduced this... How do we then view the exact same level of people who are representatives

20:57 the American populace i.e. congressmen women and senators when you recall that guy is Chopra and his buddy Vivek Kundra yes I came out with that commentary which I ridiculed endlessly about logic people shouldn't be speaking in binary and cold yeah yeah and he discussed you know the future being the what's-in-the-Star Trek show whether you you go in the room and it turns out some other place is the future, and then you get a bus schedule on your phone. All this dumb crap that I believe the entire government is just filled with people who don't know how to use a computer.

21:36 that work in the government, that know something. And there's a few congressmen but I think generally speaking they're totally clueless and they can be easily bamboozled by somebody like Richard Clark who has no background in this and he's written a book on it and you know now getting a consulting fee from the government He's probably got a contracting business with the CIA This whole thing is just a big money grab and its not saving us from anything They don't know what they are doing So it was the holodeck that he's referring to. And I'm going to call you back because you can't hear me again, hold on and we just don't want to go through that and otherwise I'm gonna turn on mumble because that just seems to work much better yeah are there? Yeah so I was saying holodeck but this is really interesting

22:23 In light of all of these hearings that we actually, we played several clips from these hearings. We have you know I'm sure our representatives in the House of Representatives and the Senate are all very well intentioned but of course when it comes to technology it's very easy to bamboozle them into saying oh my gosh It's so scary! this regulation and we have to indemnify companies from sharing private personal information because we're going to die. And in fact, Janet Napolitano admits that's exactly what they did in this clip. So Congress is I think now more aware than they were before

23:03 Anybody where you mean of the nature of the threat or the or the immediacy of it? Yes, absolutely and we did some demonstrations to members down in this gift in a capital scare them a little bit Hopefully yes I'm here. She is admitting hopefully We scared them in the skiff the skiff by the way is these sensitive compartmented information facility so they took him into the into a booth and And whatever they showed him, of course we don't know because that was not in the actual testimony which was public in this transparent government and they scared the shit out of them. But it gave them a sense of awareness and urgency I regret that debate kind of devolved into typical well this is regulation or not regulation This is security issue and its a security issue that should be top priority You could almost predict though right? We're talking about

24:00 So there you go, that's how it works. There is another hint in there. She says that the debate deteriorated In other words there was one or two people in the group who knew this was bull crap Exactly So it's just a matter of waiting around until this pops up and the big one will be, just like the pharmaceutical industry who received in the United States at least, received complete indemnification from prosecution or liability if someone is hurt dies gets narcolepsy or anything from a vaccine

24:39 which of course is the bonanza of the pharmaceutical industry at the moment, so too will all cyber-related companies. Which goes right down to the smartphone in your hand, the computer on your desktop, ISP, internet Connection you use will be completely indemnified from sharing your personal information with the government should they? Suspect you of some form of terrorist activity and that's what this is all about Oh, and of course more money for for bullcrap systems Public scammed yet again. And with that I would like to say in the morning to you John C Dvorak

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30:51 He says, I was checking in at my local airport and simultaneously happened to be listening to the latest episode of No Agenda. That would be a Thursday show. The topic of discussion? Premium lines at the airport! Is that fate or what?! So I decided to try Adam's trick out while listening and what do you know... It worked!! No hassles with security or boarding. Got my seat bag ahead of the stragglers behind me And this of course is in reference to the no agenda premium valet service at airport security where you Take your coach class ticket get into the premium line They will not ask you anything certainly, not the TSA and then you asked to opt out So you don't even have to pick up your bags from the from the belt In fact if you probably have less chance of them stealing your shit which has been in the news recently because

31:45 because they have to actually handle your bins and they do not want to be responsible for that. And you get a nice little foot rub, and a little back rub so... You should tell them thank you for your valet service I really appreciate you carrying my bag. I bet he didn't do that but that would be what i would recommend And you've seen the latest TSA news I presume, John? No. I missed it! I missed the latest TSA news. Tell me what it is. Well ABC is out on a hit job on the TSA. I'm not quite sure why they're doing it... Obviously one of the executives got scud. Oh yeah, oh that's what it is. Diane Sawyer got mauled by the TSA and so here is the follow up to their groundbreaking report. Good evening, Diane is off this Friday night and we begin here with new fallout after that ABC News investigation this week. Brian Ross and his team uncovering widespread theft by TSA officers working airport security some of them stealing your property as it goes through those scanners

32:40 Last night here you saw Brian track down one stolen iPad to an agent's home, confronting him right there. Tonight Congress taking notice some calling it the last straw and in just 24 hours we've heard from thousands of viewers sending us messages on Facebook and online outraged some saying it's happening to them Here are just a couple of their voices Once again these of course are completely credible and sourced from Facebook And they've called some of these people up and put them on Skype I think for sure that the TSA employees have been involved in removing personal items from my bag. Took my shoes off, went through the machine and bent over put my shoes on turned around grabbed a cash wallet cell phone was missing

33:20 And so we turn once again to our chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross and today, Brian you got Capitol Hill's attention. Indeed David with the chairman of the House Transportation Committee John Micah of Florida calling for a total reform and sweeping changes in the management of TSA and the inspector general at Homeland Security saying that case we uncovered has now been referred to federal authorities for criminal prosecution I find this really fascinating. ABC does nothing without some benefit for themselves, it could possibly be that an executive got shaken down but But this was a pretty big report they had. It was pretty funny if you didn't see the original report where they left iPads in the bins at airports across the country and then one TSA officer stole it, took it home because they tracked the iPad. They went up to the guy's house and went like hey man where is our iPad? And he took off his uniform and blamed his wife and gave the iPad back instead of letting his wife steal it

34:19 But then for this... Oh, that's a nice guy. He threw his wife under the bus! But then to have Micah jump on this it sounds like a setup. Hold on a second, Micah is the only one who ever jumps on this he's that's all he does yeah but I don't what but ABC is so pro all of this stuff That, even this... so they follow this report up with this and then I was like okay this has to be a hit piece. Good evening Diane is off this Friday night and we begin here with new fallout after that ABC News investigation Wait a minute wrong one sorry this one oh wait ah no this is the one I'm sorry my mistake

35:02 For its critics in Congress, our report on the TSA was only the latest example in a series of miscues, invasions of privacy and just yesterday. The failure of TSA speeders to spot a loaded pistol inadvertently left in a woman's purse. The weapon got past the TSA checkpoint at the Orlando airport and made it onto a flight to Newark where the women, a Florida firefighter realized what had happened and reported it to authorities David. Yeah yeah this is what I do So whenever I happen to forget about my handgun in my purse and I get through TSA, I immediately report that. Seriously?

35:40 I wouldn't. No, of course not! And that's part of the same report and of course I didn't hear about this anywhere else except on ABC you've got to think that this is some kind of setup they're setting up something and i'm not saying it's to get rid of TSA I'm saying its probably to get them more money in more bullcrap I don't even think it's a good thing but it sounds like a setup for some reason... More training or something Yeah, it's yeah. There's probably some tax angle or the tax money angle I don't know I have no idea hmm well I know there was a bunch of stuff on these different Some of these shows on C-Span where their people are more and there's a bunch of people they're getting ready for the big debate Ah this yes This is of course is October 3rd which is is that a Wednesday am I correct? Oh so we that's perfect because we have We have a show the next day

36:36 Yeah, and I have some debate preview clips. Oh nice! But before i go push toward that...I wanted to mention that there's a lot of discussion about how our infrastructure this country is falling apart and every time they start moaning about this and we haven't got the money to pay for anything I say with the money that's wasted on these idiots at TSA if you turn these people into like W- Works Project Administration workers. Yeah Guys who like build, you know cheap bridges and stuff all over the place I think they'd be better spent money that this is a fiasco this there's nothing productive about this Okay Well anyway that was it

37:20 I'm just leaving pauses here so you jump in because I'm almost finished talking and can't hear you. You can't hear me again, is that true? Okay here we go. Yeah yeah hold on... Uh i found a couple of interesting things Hold on a second uh we gotta call him back We might actually have to try mumble I think this is a new thing with Skype And I want to make sure that we uh John's like hey it's ringing Hey you know what you're right you're not hearing me again I'm hearing you now. Yeah, you are now but it keeps going simplex You know what? You know what? I would think this would be the opportune moment for us to just switch to mumble and see if that works because this is Now this is gonna happen throughout the whole show. And I don't want let's do it Alright, let's we're gonna switch to mumble. You still have switching to mumble This is gonna be a nightmare Let me see if I even have it set up here Oh my goodness Okay, I've got to move over here. This is gonna be fun

38:22 Oh boy. Come on, Mumble! Are you starting? Ah here we go... No no no I can't believe this wasn't set up Okay... Add new... and it's an egg... John is going to be sitting there waiting for me See? Connect Yeah yeah yeah okay let me just get the- Yeah can you hear me? No he can't hear me yet Let me see Hold on a second Can you hear me?

39:22 Can you hear me now? Hold on a second. Yeah, yeah we're gonna get this done and uh You just can't hear me because I didn't have this one set up. Can you hear me now? You should be able to hear me Let's see two two two Two- you can hear me. Yeah, you can hear me now. Yes you can. Hello hello hello. Yeah you did It'll be worth it. Yeah, I do signal to noise testing. Yes. I hear you. I hear you beautifully 2 1 2 1 2 check in yeah, yeah Why did you change we had it all set up? It was out. It was working beautifully one two one two one two Two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two

40:29 Have a hello. Yes. Hello. I can hear you. I can hear you. I can hear you. I can hear you say something. Yes. Hello. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah One two one two one two, one two. No I changed nothing! Right... Okay USB 3 remember you got me? I can hear ya. Oh good okay Stop typing Alright i'm stopping typing I'll cut most of that I changed nothing I closed the program when we talked last

41:24 Okay, well don't I have not reopened it for any circumstances. So what would I have changed? Can I ask you a question sure why are getting all pissed off because you accuse me of changing something You're not the most and then you said right Because you're not the most technical guy in the world when it comes to this stuff bullshit. Oh Okay Alrighty, I should have recorded the whole thing when we set this up that was hilarious Anyway, it's working It sounds great Well, I'm glad I sound good because you sound like shit but it's fine. Well now hold on let me just set it up right for you No don't change anything if I sound good that's all that counts no I want him I wanted to be perfect Hold on let me just uh... I'm gonna give you a quality. No It's all it's gonna be worth it hold on You need to build cuz if you need to be able to hear the clips alright so this is your eclipse Yeah, but it won't be all that great okay? So this should be better does it sound better yeah, it does okay

42:24 Could you hear that? Yeah, I heard it perfect. All right now Where were we now that's working and which I think was just uses from now on man mumble is awesome We'll see how long it lasts what what is the what was the last thing I said that you cut me off on I have No idea No idea It was uh, you went out always talking about the WPA Oh No, were you no I thought you were talking about the infrastructure and how it's all messed up But the WPA are saying if the money spent on the TSA people right would be better spent Right on the WPA. What is WPA? The Works Project Administration the thing that That Roosevelt did oh you mean the Work what did Roosevelt do? I don't know what that is Roosevelt started he everybody was unemployed but instead of making them all work for the TSA

43:18 I'm getting a hundred percent echo back. You're getting an echo back? That, that...I can't help it. I didn't change anything Okay well anyway so Roosevelt maybe is gonna yell yeah whatever don't you know anyway So when Roosevelt was in office he put people to work by creating this Works Project Administration which was a operation just built bridges all over the place and painted buildings And then also created the Civilian Conservation Corps which cleaned up the National Park System And that still exists this WPA? No, no they were closed. Oh well there's your answer I guess! Well no but it was implemented for the purposes of giving schmucks jobs like you know like they now give them instead of now giving them jobs to produce something they put him in work for the DHS In your mumble by the way there's an echo button you can set and that'll

44:13 That'll fix that echo if it's still happening to you. Okay, hold on let me see where is it under audio settings? Yeah You got to do advanced and then under audio I think it's under input There's an echo button because as echo there's a look at the top under system On the top of this system direct sound exclusive echo disabled Oh And you can't uh if you check Exclusive or is that all grayed out? That also doesn't work Uh-huh, and you're still getting the echo yeah Well that sucks. I can live with it No, it's not really nice Let me change something here What does ASIO mean? That is a compression system that gives you extra great quality Really? Yeah The only thing I could do... Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you

45:14 Okay, I put on it and now I can change Echo disabled mixed multi-channel well hold on a second. I'm actually maybe send let me think I may be sending something back to you That's incorrect. Let me just see John hold on a second What are you doing? Whatever you're doing stop doing that that didn't sound very good. I didn't do anything okay? Hold on a sec Silence below all right try it again testing one two three again testing 1 2 3

46:00 Did you get it back at that time or not? I didn't hear much of it. Now, It sounds good better So sounds good now so it's not happening? I can't hear it Okay then I think we're good Let's count to three to see how far apart We are in terms of the lag ready yeah okay You start and I heard myself again great One, two three. Three... Together! Ready? Yeah one two three four five. It's not bad okay are you still hearing yourself it's on and off okay like now I'm not but then all of a sudden they will let me try maybe just fine i can live with this okay can you hear me yes I can hear you okay do yourself know

46:56 No. You don't? Not at the moment Okay, well then I think I fixed it Okay, you can think you've fixed it Put the recording back on let's get put this show back I haven't even stopped recording This is all going out people love this Turns out... Now I can hear ya! You can hear me now? Whatever you did you turned yourself off Okay how about now yeah I'm back right and you can hear me now Yes okay now say something Testing one two three And there's no echo There was no echo? I can't hear you again. Yeah, you can hear me now! I know you can hear me! Hello hello hello? Nothing Okay how about now? What are you doing?! I can't hear a word your saying Can you hear me now? Hello hello hello hello hello hello? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? No, i cant hear ya Alright so you can hear me alright then that's good and there should be no echo What were you doing!? Im trying to make it so you don't have an echo!! I told you I dont have one right now

48:04 Alright, if you think we're bad and here you again. No, you're kidding me That's crazy. You could definitely hear me now doesn't I'm not changing anything Crap look man. Um, I don't know your back Yeah But I'm not changing a single thing and then you end and then you say oh, I can't hear you So maybe there's something on your end It's always my fault. Yeah, of course All right Let's go back and if you think we're bad let's listen to a spokeshold Jay Carney who of course now is being grilled back since this seems to be intermittent because I can't hear you again to the old direct sound oh Okay, so this is this is yeah, I can hear you but this is definitely something on your end

48:52 This is definitely a problem you've created. I'm getting nothing! It's...I'm not changing anything Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello Can I play a clip? Play the clip. ...of a pre-planned attack, how come... Bill let me just repeat now again based on the information... How is it that the attackers had RPGs you know automatic weapons? Bill i know you've done a little bit of reading about Libya since the unrest that began under Qaddafi. I love this! I love how how Carney is continuing to try to

49:47 Propagate the lie that this unrest and the killing of four Americans at the so-called consulate in Libya is because of this video and And the whole press corps is just laughing Laughing at him. You have to see this video It's in The Show Notes for 4a dot na show notes calm While this Q&A is going on they are smiling and snickering at the press secretary The place is has an abundance of weapons. No question about it, but do you expect a street mob to become armed that way? There are unfortunately many bad actors in that country as there are throughout the region and they have they're very armed I'm not...the point is you can make suppositions about what happened we prefer to have an investigation that looks very closely into what happened

50:40 uh... and assembles the facts and can present some based on all i'm saying people in the ground of seeing the fragments of them remains at the borders that they have a weapons that were used with we've made clear that there was something to do it did their work for him that that that that that that that that that that that had you see any of this now united that this guy is so annoying as ridiculous but its interesting that they're holding on so firmly to this lie. And right on cue, by the way all of a sudden we have the Libyans giving up their weapons! It's like someone went down there and said alright look this is a real ass problem we got here so hey you, you Libyan come over here and here's the report hundreds turned out in Tripoli and Benghazi to hand in weapons left over from last year's war

51:33 With governments struggling to impose authority has launched the initiative in an attempt to make the country safer and crack down on armed militants. And they're showing people bringing in RPGs like, yeah I had this at home... ...and you know I didn't feel good about it anymore so well here we go here's that report Guns, bullets and even grenade launchers. All being handed in as Libya encourages people to give up their arms. Hundreds turned out in Tripoli and Benghazi to hand in weapons left over from last year's war With the government struggling to impose authority it has launched these collection drives to make the country safer and crack down on armed militants

52:16 I've handed over my weapon. We want our country to be safe and secure The time of war is over we got rid of the tyrant, thank God This is so cool Okay output failed What? I think you should just do the show like this Hello Oh god Okay, I can hear you coming back So I know you can hear me

52:57 Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah I hear you fine. Can you hear me Wow did you hello I can here I can hear you typing We can't hear me talking yeah yes Yes, well that's fine by this view I can't hear really okay then you Okay, well great. I can't hear a word. You're saying it says outputs failed restart mumble And I can hear you. I can hear me coming back. Okay, I will do that You're not hearing me? Not saying this is so much better than anything else Well okay and he's gone and we'll wait for him to come back okay He's connected Did you restart or... I'm back Just reconnect That's weird It makes no sense

54:12 I turned to kill the program and then restarted it. Okay now you can hear ya Oh, okay. Well you jiggle the handle next time? I'm gonna have to slap it All right. So did you did you lose all of that report is that basically didn't hear any of it? I heard this beginning where Carney was mumbling and then he said something nasty about Carney And that was the end of it. Oh, you didn't even hear about the guns being returned No You want to hear? Yeah, I think it'd be nice. I can hear that. I could go for listening to that guns bullets and even grenade launchers all being handed in as Libya encourages people to give up their arms hundreds turned out in Tripoli and Benghazi to hand in weapons left over from last year's war you can hear this yeah with the government struggling to impose authority its law really

55:13 So you can't hear me. After you asked that question, now your just dead That is uh well then lets go back to Skype then I guess this needs more testing Uh let's go Curiously the VU meter is going crazy but im just not getting any sound Uhh Well It's a mystery And You killed Skype? Apparently You killed Skype Yes Skype is on Not on I've killed Skype completely Okay alright Let's go. There is nothing else running on this machine, it is pretty dedicated. Alright let us go back to Skype then. Okay. How unfortunate! Alright Yeah that was basically the computer voice I think that I was hearing but I was hearing and I know what happened and I can tell him right now I know exactly what happened because it was... Let us call him first

56:27 We'll get back to all we'll get back to the news in a second. This is worth it So here's what's weird john? Here's what's where did okay go on, okay so when I you couldn't hear me yet i was I was typing in mumble and I could hear the computer voice reading that back on your end. So somewhere I mean, yeah, I don't understand how would that be weird because it's loud Yeah, but and it's going through my microphone and you can hear me Okay so there's got to be something with your Yeah, I know it's obviously my fault. I changed nothing! I just ran it and ran fine you're yacking away yakking away yakking away and then you go dead completely and then you come back And so that's...I mean why is this something? Why is this not perhaps a problem with the software? Why would this be anything that you could associate with my setup

57:25 When it works fine and then stops out of the blue, and then works fine again. I don't know not touching anything You're the guy that has the you know the helium stuff and all the other stuff And yeah, I know but that's what we've already figured out why that is That's a bad driver for the M audio device right? But it also there were weeks and weeks of you saying this is not my fault it's not my rig. You know you went on and on about that and we turned out it was so I'm just saying it's possible but that but the but we could have had a exact rationale for why the M-Audio device was the problem because of the driver because somebody looked at up there as a driver problem, that was only a reasoning that started happening okay here's what I think this kind of all right here's what I think it is I think I know what it is and if it doesn't make any difference but I think I know what the problem

58:11 I believe because it has an auto echo canceling feature that the software is my audio is coming out of your speakers but your microphone is picking it up and Mumble is trying to make that not happen so it is therefore shutting down your audio if you put on headphones which I know you won't do, so we don't have to do anything. I think the problem would go away I can put on headphones. You'll be amazed... And the problem will not go away Okay, you want to put money on that? Here's all i want if the problem does go away Will you admit that the problem was on your end and if the problem doesn't go away I'll admit The problem is on my end Is that fair? Yeah sure okay then I'm gonna call you back I'll check Then again of course it could be the well we'll meet back on mumble ok bye

59:15 This is awesome. Hey, this is what these roadshows are for this is exactly what they're for to test out stuff Alright I'm back. I mean let's see where's John? I could be wrong of course that would suck but I could be wrong Yeah Thank you. I think I think people are I think people are on my side on this one Let me put a little music in here or waiting for John to connect oh All right place your bets again about you here we go everybody Now the question is should I leave this in the show or should I be editing this out? That's the big question Depends. Oh boy, he's back here you go and so yeah headphones on now Yeah, but I'm not getting anything through the headphones well. I can hear myself coming back so oh

1:00:16 That's because I'm not getting anything through the headphones. Right, but you are receiving me it's just not through the headphones What? You typing? No! I am talking. I have to change the settings so its going through the M-Audio both ways Okay Good do that Say something 1 2 1 2 One two... Say something. One two, one two I am talking... No okay just keep playing music it's fine. One two, one two, one two, one two, da-da dum, da-dum, dum Before, before it's crap It's pre-crap Alright everyone says leave it in the show. Alright. One two, one two, one two

1:01:04 I can't believe that this is like we have so much media to assassinate yet. This is where the headphone jack is So it should be able to click on fast track and that should Let's put it this way if I'm right everyone has to donate If I'm wrong Everyone has to donate how does that sound? All right, I got a read along with chat room here John you need to put their head on your head Oh, boy. Jesse123... Yes! 123! 123! Mix output. Oh boy hello hello hello. He doesn't want to talk to this thing I'm leaving all of this in Hey you know what? This is the beauty if you're listening to this as a podcast You can always fast forward. Oh my goodness

1:02:10 This, by the way is the Ride of the Valkyries by Wagner which we always play before we begin this show. It's not gonna... The only way I'm going to use headphones because the device that is playing... Well no there's no other way doing this it has to go through the Ambaudio headphone output which usually works but for some reason I put it on fast track and it says you don't care and I can't get any sound TO the headphones Uh, from this thing. So I'm done. Alright so you must put headphones on your- Oh he already disconnected. Aw crap! Alright... So what's the- That's a shame! Ah, he says he can't do it. Alright well i don't know. I was able to do it. Ayayaya. Well that's very sad. I find it sad. Sad. Alright Okay. I'll just stop that and let's go back

1:03:19 Hello? Yes. A suggestion from the chatroom is you have to put the headphones on your head Yeah, very funny tell this chatroom to fuck themselves Alright John it's okay You know what no matter what happens I'm letting you talk It's good! I'm okay with Skype completely cutting me off I really appreciate your trying it's too bad Please let's play one of your clips I need to get back to the show Yes, I think the show needs to be Before we have another five-hour show because we're losing track of time. Yes So let's get back on track and by the way, I'm leaving all this in it was it was brilliant genius If people don't like if they can fast forward welcome back everybody Okay, so I've got a couple things here by the way. So today's New York Times comes yes And instead of being in the blue crappy rapper Yeah, like the the cheap jack wrapper you mean? Yeah, you see that right? Yep

1:04:27 You've seen it in the New York Times, it's a blue wrapper. Yeah well sometimes it comes in pink but yeah okay... Yeah it does come in pink so now it came in a printed wrapper plugging the show uh... Oh no Revolution? No no that wasn't Revolution it was the Revenge I don't know the show Revenge oh no revenge is reasonably entertaining show but there's nothing you want to DVR anyway so I thought that was a unique new use of the distribution model wait so while revolution which i think is going down the toilet they're starting to plug the crap out of it to make people think you have to check it out and I do have a plug here for it we can get the power go home and bring back in United States more than 29 million people have made revolution the must-watch breakout hit of this season

1:05:21 New Revolution, Monday after The Voice here on NBC. Right the 29 million are they counting all three episodes? Is that how it's not 29 million per episode that people are watching that's for sure no is impossible now Wow anyway so Romney's I gonna be this is the Wednesday's gonna be the big day we'll talk about it on Thursday yep Romney, this is interesting. Apparently Obama's not going to be the nice guy that he was with McCain? Play debate preview. We disagree without being disagreeable Interesting a lot of these undecided voters watching this want to see Washington work a little bit better we could see more than oh I think they have more of a strategy though of being aggressive and that the president is gonna try to get under Governor Romney skin Oh really? Not trying to be above the fray No I think they believe Mitt Romney is his own worst enemy

1:06:12 And I think that they believe if they get him irritated, that he...that if you look at his past Ted Kennedy debates. He's terrible at cutaways when he is getting attacked The $10,000 bet. Betcha 10 thousand. That it is easy They believe it is easy to get under Governor Romney's head and I expect a very aggressive President Obama not the one you saw there What do you see? Two men So John, as the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, as we would write the script which of course this entire thing will be scripted. How do you think it's going to play out? Are they going... are we going to see cutaways where either president looks weird or Romney looks weird Or are we going to have Romney say something It's gonna be a smackdown I mean something brilliant has to happen here for the ratings obviously

1:06:57 Well, there's a couple of things. One is there...there's going to be somebody pointed this out if you play the clip the clever line theory of debating before he played it I think this may not be the same clip This is Reagan doing one these guys all agree that both these candidates have a couple of zingers And they exemplified by what Reagan did with the Mondale and I think it would be the clever line theory of debating will be the clip. Okay, one way to do that is to have a clever line. And no one could deliver a lie like Ronald Reagan also... I will not make age an issue in this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponents youth and inexperience

1:07:44 With those words, Reagan turned concern that he'd gotten old and dotty on its head. Challenger Walter Mondale said later when I heard that... So there's no doubt that when it comes to written jokes President Obama will just totally obliterate Romney No doubt about it I would agree, but i think one of our challenges and maybe the listeners might... We have to be able to catch the zingers and then let's both of us have a big like a challenge we have to catch the zingers in then report back on them. Okay can we do that? But there is going to be one each What you mean by one each why are putting limitations on it? Obama will go out with 1 million one-liners I hope All I want for us to report this on mumble

1:08:34 Because you will have this fix for the next show because it will work once you get the headphones so I'm gonna be in Port Angeles for the next show perfect and I won't have mumble up there It's if you can download it and install it Yeah, then I have to reset we did went through a lot of work to reset it to those settings that we had Okay. Well do Skype. I mean I could no no no no no it'll be fine. It'll be fine You know what? I think yeah okay here's the other one This is the summary of debate strategies. This is kind of interesting because everybody believes that this debate's going to be the only debate that's important. If Romney doesn't show up, then the election is over For those who serve with him as governors we're shocked he has been such a poor candidate Because he was good governor He did some very impressive things and made every mistake in the book So you can just subscribe to the fact President Obama has been a good candidate He's a good candidate with a very tough economy But to some extent

1:09:35 problems that were hard for him to overcome. The way he could have humanized himself, one of the ways was to talk about his religion. That was very difficult during the course of this campaign with a conservative evangelical base that was suspicious of Mormonism. The other thing he could have done is talked about his record as governor while one of the main things in his record of governor was health care reform in Massachusetts also was very hard for him to do. But he's talking about it now, Connie! He should have talked about it earlier. It is a big achievement to cover 98% of the people in this state. Let us put this into context with the debates Chuck. Are you surprised that Chrissy has decided and do you think the Romney campaign is pleased with him saying hey First debate hits it out of the park Thursday morning things are going to be totally different. Thank you Chris Christie though for at least Actually making the quote whatever you want to call it The gaffe the honest gap the fact of the matters that has to be what happens after this first debate Has to change the polls have to move Romney has to clobber her the president in the first if they don't move its alright So it may was are they happy with it? I kind of think they needed the pep talk

1:10:33 I think the base needs to pep talk. They need to think that they have confidence in their guy, that he can stand toe-to-toe with the president Now...I think this idea that they're both sides playing this ridiculous expectations game I don't think either one of them are great one-on-one debaters. Romney hasn't proven that he's good on the second pivot, the second time you challenge, on the follow. That is where he made his mistakes during primary debates and Obama has a tendency to ramble and i think that will be interesting Okay. All right, so that's gonna be... So in other words this is going to be the only debate? So this will be important it's one reason I got these clips. What do you mean what do you mean he doesn't... What do you mean this will be the only one? This debate he's not gonna win anything okay and then the final thing is they had a weird thing about this show they had of all people the remember Ralph Reed yes if you can hear me I do He was a

1:11:30 I guess he was kicked out of the... He was a very important person in the Republican Party during much of the early Bush campaign and then he got caught with some corruption. Oh, not in his toilet? He's a major Christian guy and we haven't heard from him since we started our show Okay, so he's come back as a consultant and he's one of the smartest guys. I think I've ever run into in terms of like Ability to throw talking points together now. I guess he's doing something with Romney He gives Romney here all the talking points you're gonna be hearing on the debates I predict and Dick Gregory or Chip Gregory or Fred? George Gregory

1:12:14 ends up cutting them off and then going to a commercial which is classic stuff you see on these networks. And I need to know which clip it is, and that would be Romney talking points coming at ya. He said that unemployment would never go above 8% if we passed his stimulus plan It's never gone below 8%. He said he'd cut the deficit in half in his first term He's doubled it, and he has increased the national debt by 50%. He said that he would change Washington and put it into the partisan rancor. Washington is more polarized and more paralyzed than its been in the modern era The Senate which his party controls has not passed a budget in three years And we're 92 days from a fiscal cliff

1:13:02 which the CBO says is going to plummet us into a double-decker crash. go to a break we are you know what here's okay so here are my talking points here and this has been launched by the way this isn't and it's a total scam and I think it's hilarious but this is what the real talking points are that are being put out into the onto the interwebs Did you see the Obama phone lady? Have you seen this video no, oh this is great. This is the Obama phone lady Because yeah and by the way This was started by I think even Clinton started this You know if you if your on welfare and you can get a wireline service, you know, you get basically a telephone for nothing

1:14:05 But of course our government has moved along with the times and if you're on welfare then you can register and get a cell phone. It's not like an iPhone 5, okay? You get a cell phone with I think 250 minutes a month which is basically for emergencies. And this has been policy in America for a long time but now they've got this great video of this lady... it repeats so play in another 30 seconds You know Obama give us a phone and Romney sucks. This is really this basically it here comes Okay, what's wrong with Rami again?

1:14:53 Listen to the beginning again when she's yelling about the phone It cracks me up every single time I haven't seen it but it sounds fake. Oh, It's totally set up! It's totally set- there was a whole bunch of like setup people by the side of the road who are you know like protesting Romney or something... The whole-it's a scam! The whole-it's part of this campaign. But it's kind of racist scam don't ya think? Kind of! Kinda but the whole thing is funny because

1:15:32 People actually buy into this and they're like look at these a-holes, you know And by the way Of course totally racist look at these black black a-holes all they want is a free phone where it's like You know This is nothing new And it's a total setup, but it is... by the way the woman is not an actor. I mean she's been clearly on drugs there's no doubt about it! But its hilarious and this was being passed around the internet like look how crappy Obama's policies are It's just funny Now I'm gonna have to go see it. And i can't go do it now, it's not like helium." Yeah but that's in the show notes at 448 dot nashownotes dot com you can find that under the video section uh okay so I'm looking forward to that um...I've no idea You know probably since this is put out by The Romney Campaign he'll be stupid enough to bring up the Obama phone That's how dumb he is. No he's not that dumb. I don't know man

1:16:35 When he's in a pinch. No, he won't because it's like you said the phone went during the Bush administration I mean they've been giving people deals on phones for awhile Yeah but... You know? He's not good in a pinch! I don't think that guy has any- You think that guy is an idiot Excuse me?! You think Romney's an idiot? Well, here's what I think. By the way i'm not going to argue with you if you feel that way. No he's not of course... obviously he and Obama in that regard are both idiots and that's neither here nor there but when it comes to speaking to people um and just communicating uh to a mass audience Romney is impossible for him

1:17:18 To do that he reminds me of a VC of a venture capitalist and you know You've been with VC guys, and they can talk a big game when they can talk about you know Blah-dee blah-dee blah invest in return and all this stuff But when they have to talk to an actual human being about something kind of normal They don't possess the skills. Do what I mean? They just it's I've seen this behavior. They just don't know how to talk like normal people and that's what people need to hear So, I don't know how they're gonna train this guy it to do that because he comes across as a moronic robot

1:17:56 He comes across a little stiff. Yeah, that's my version okay? That's what you call a moronic robot the guy no he just doesn't have it and What is in God's name can he do to endear himself so that the public will buy into that I mean we obviously choose our presidents the same way with that We buy ours are soap powder You know, it's whatever works on television. This guy does not have it! He is back from the 50s when we wanted the clean cut square jawed president and now the Republican Party are boneheads for thinking this guy would be anything near what they need to win. There's no way! No way ever! Not in a hundred million years

1:18:38 Unless you know, they rigged the voting machines which is a real possibility I lose meanwhile we have A very interesting election race going on in Georgia and I'm not talking about the state But I'm talking about the country now. Of course We know the importance of Georgia for the the Caspian Sea for the pipelines that are running primarily For the Russians And we have the Kremlin now. have brought in their own shill. We're going to see another color revolution this is how Chakrasvili, the crazy Thai eating guy with the smoking hot wife got into power in the first place through The Rose Revolution and this of course was completely sponsored by the Bush administration and the current administration has carried on with that and we've of course had Hillary Clinton there just recently making nice And so now these guys have put in a shill billionaire

1:19:39 And it looks like he's actually going to change things dramatically and turn over Georgia to the Russians so that they can enjoy all of the benefits of the gas pipes. Tens of thousands of supporters of Georgia's opposition coalition have rallied ahead of tomorrow's parliamentary elections. Tension has been rising after days of demonstrations over a prison brutality scandal that has come to dominate the campaign The leader of the six-party Georgian Dream told the crowd in Tbilisi, the days of the current government under President Saakashvili were numbered

1:20:16 Bidzina Ivanishvili used his final appeal to voters to challenge the government's record. All people are standing by us, including ethnic minorities – Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Jews… This is a great example to show the whole world that our nation deserves real democracy and real success." The billionaire has come under scrutiny over his Russian fortune believed to be worth almost half of Georgia's economic output and alleged links to the Kremlin The prison scandal has diverted attention from him, but it's also increased tensions. TV reports exposed prison guards abusing inmates. The government told Euronews it recognized there was a problem. Torture was systemic in Georgian police and that is not like that any longer

1:21:02 The prison system was somehow neglected. It was considered that prisons are calm, so it was considered that okay there might be some problems but not so serious Now you may be thinking that America and its allies are just sitting idly by and letting all this take place well of course we can't! So we pull out something... An old rabbit out of the hat. Western organizations have called for restraint amid fears of election violence, the votes will be followed by a presidential election next year after which power is due to be largely devolved to the new prime minister So of course we're going to have observers on the ground who'll be making sure that everything goes exactly you know fairly according to plan and of course there will be riots incited by techno experts on many sides of many fences

1:21:49 So, this will be a fun one to watch. Well, so voting is will be concluded by tomorrow and we'll see what happens. But I think that there's so many distractions happening for the US and our allied forces that I think Putin is going to get Georgia back! I think he's actually gonna pull it off. It might... That would be the end of George Bush Airport. Yeah oh yeah it'll be Vlad airport now

1:22:39 What else we got? Oh tons of stuff. I mean, i'm kind of looking to you oh well i'm going to run out of material because i lost a bunch of clips including a great Stossel clip where he's at the University of North Carolina going over the new rules they have there were um there's a clamp down on free speech in a lot of universities is very good thing i can summarize It's apparently now against the rules and you get expelled for telling a dirty joke or any joke that has a sexual connotation. Oh? You cannot, there is no way that you can ask or even imply that you want to have sex with somebody Really?! Yeah Stossel said it means...the way he reads is that the only way you can have sex is to rape someone

1:23:31 And he went on and on, it was quite interesting. He said that? Apparently there's this group called FIRE, I think, that is going to have to sue them over all these... When I started thinking about it these were all politically correct ideas that I think stem from Sheville Yeah, I don't like calling it Sheeville. I find that to be quite nasty actually. I just like to call it Asheville and think thats a little more correct. I'm just trying to figure out why of all places North Carolina the home of Jesse Helms has gotten this unbelievably politically correct? Well I think you know look at they want to shut us down regardless! I mean I dont see why thats so...you know doesn't seem like thats all out of the ordinary or the program

1:24:25 So, you know do it in schools isn't that kind of what it's all about? Isn't that where you teach the slaves how they're supposed to be? It's getting good look like dad which is depressing speaking of which When I was in Chicago You know we it was at Chuck and his lovely wife who had invited us and we did this the whole conference etc. And And they had already been complaining to me. I think we even talked on the show about some program that had started in their, and they have two sons young sons and then some programs started in school and they were kind of you know wary what was going on So this time when we met them They've both decided to homeschool their kids which apparently in Illinois is very easy and and they call it unschooling not homeschooling but unschooled. Well that's...hold

1:25:14 Unschooling is a specific type of homeschooling. Oh, tell me about it! Unschooling which we know people who have practiced this is not schooling the kids at all It's just to let them do their own thing you don't give them classes You don't have read books if they don't want to learn how to read that's too bad Yeah that sounds right? It's unschooling there's no schooling yeah homeschooling its no schooling Right! Unschooling Sounds good sounds like a winner Everybody that get the result of all unschooled people are complete idiots Uh-huh, you had this on high authority. I mean by the kids that we know that have been unschooled Okay So do you think that there can be a period of? unschooling up until a certain age

1:26:06 These are like the women who have babies and they think it's bad to change their diapers and let them crawl around the house and crap all over the place. No, that's not like them. That's absolutely not like them. Unschooling is the same thing I have to disagree Now i think they may have been misusing the word. I think there was just misusing the word They said unschooling Yeah They may have meant homeschooling but unschooling is very specific to people that do not educate their kids at all Okay Well I think that uh... There was a misuse of the word But let me tell you the reason why they pulled their kids out of school. What the straw was that broke the camel's back? They had a slave exercise in school, and this is Chicago School where half the kids... They had their hands bound with plastic handcuffs or... This is at Marquita Side High School

1:27:02 I don't know what the name of that. It's not a high school these kids are in lower so and M grammar school So they they you know, we're like kind of maybe rubber bands or whatever? So they had their wrists bound together half the class and then they had to go into Into it like an auditorium and they all had to lay down side by side You know, like the slaves were in the slave ship with the lights out and they had to stay that way and they weren't allowed To move so they could witness what it was like to be a slave now. I have nothing like it would Okay, but yeah, that's fun. Whoever came up with that idea should have been fired Right, but then when they when they brought this up What they got from the school was well you're the only parents who have complained about it Which I believe by the way

1:27:52 Yeah, it's possible because most parents don't even know what's going on and the kids don't say anything. But how crazy is that? It's scandalous! There should have been an article in the Chicago Tribune! It's insane! In fact I think they should write the article... Actually someone says that it might have been written up somewhere Yeah, it was at Oprah Elementary School actually. That's where it took place But I just like wow! I was like that's actually happening in public school in Chicago By the way a predominantly white public school I would have to point out Go try this on the south side of Chicago see what happens then

1:28:33 Yeah, really I was just I was just I was really surprised. It's like oh my god There's a million of these stories about these schools and they're always trying these crazy ideas and it's like pointless And it's not educational at all yeah, I don't know well I hadn't heard of this before and I was like Oh My God that's that's pretty pretty outrageous and then one other thing I heard which I wanted to share with you regarding China and Japan and these islands I bumped into our here in Los Angeles for a Miss Mickey's art show

1:29:11 One of her good friends has actually he's now an architect in China and he lives in Beijing And he's one of these guys that really has immersed himself into the Chinese culture In fact, it's kind of annoying because when he's talking to you He'll say something. He'll answer you but he'll say it in Chinese first and then dissect the sentence So be like I don't want to meet her. I want on one two, how'd you know hand you what the dog the coffee mug? What are and he does that with every sentence so it was very tiring to get the following story out of him because I said What is the deal with no with these like clearly government-sponsored riots about these stupid islands that no one cares about and He gave me which I thought was a really Really good answer

1:30:03 And it is indeed that the Chinese are still extremely pissed about the Japanese and the scorched earth campaign. What was it called, John? The rape of Manchuria? Yes, where they I mean they literally they just hacked people to bits right. They were cutting women's breasts off and it was really a horrible thing right. And they killed a lot of people yeah and so they occupied this little tiny nation Japan compared to China occupied China for how long was it that they... Well there is only one area of China Manchuco

1:30:45 Right, but they don't know how long it was. It was almost a decade I believe yeah But it was based on this on this incredible fear and terror that they had brought upon the Chinese people because of these these atrocities that they had Just the what's the word I'm looking for for the atrocities that they'd committed upon these Chinese people and so, you know The guys like no this is because of this. That's a bull but why do the Chinese still care? I mean it makes no sense Why are they still pissed off about this and then he said ah You have to understand This is because of a movie

1:31:22 This is what I thought was really interesting Christian Bale did a movie called the flowers of war and this came out last that this past Christmas in China And it's by a very famous director, Chinese director Zhang Yimou. I think is how you pronounce it but he's done like the House of Flying Daggers He has done tons of big movies But having Christian Bale in this and if you go see that movie which I have not yet seen on Netflix The Japanese...and it of course is exactly about what happened

1:32:00 About these atrocities, but he says the Japanese have been portrayed as these hairy. You know the makeup It's like they're hairy They've got these really crazy slitty eyes when you know that that had this Chris crazy look in them Exactly the way that we discussed on the previous episode how the Germans were depicted to get World War one started Etc etc how are now portraying? The Syrian regime it says is all because of this movie and the Chinese there so feeble-minded his words that they really don't know anything, that when they saw this movie they just went into a complete frenzy and this has been used continuously by the Chinese government to drive them into this crazy demonstration mode.

1:32:42 Yeah, I heard there was something going on because there's an anniversary. I guess of this to their state The Manchu State began in 1932 and then the Empire of Manchuria Began in 1934 it would never ended did this was the occupation of China by the Japanese ended in 1945 hmm And then on the on the Japanese side By the way There's a, if you can find the book there is really good book written about this that kind of gets you feeling for what it was like. It's called Bushido. I don't know the author name but it was written in the 40s I think

1:33:18 So on the Japanese side, according to the Chinese and our friend it's really the Tokyo mayor who is he's the one that saying oh we're gonna go buy the islands and this guy is just an a-hole. And yeah actually up for reelection so he's kind of posturing and pandering so you know again its basically the elites Going back and forth. And of course the real deal is about the gas in the oil, which he didn't even know about This is what this is what was interesting He's like oh I don't know about any gas or oil around those islands Yeah You might want to look into that but it was just amazing how? you know how because we've seen the riots and you when I were both like ah This is all set up and it is kind of but the mind control has come once again through media I just find that fascinating That there's one movie has been able to do that

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1:53:27 Also known as the ICD to prevent the worst if I should suffer another ventricular fibrillation event again in August went back to hospital had a successful cardioversion and I've also had some follow-up after the stroke luckily have no physical problems after the stroke and The doctors tell me take it easy not stressed the brain or heart. I will probably be on sick leave for several months But I should live for a full life So Adam and John life is full of surprises. Nothing is certain I'm extremely grateful that everything has turned out so well, and I appreciate the things around me even more And that's why his donation has actually put him above the double Nightmark and he sends kind regards from the high Arctic and we do let me just send the guy some karma here This is crazy You've got karma We're kind of wondering what we hadn't heard from him for a while and you know now it's like whenever I don't hear From one of our nights. I'm like

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1:57:08 night sir Kevin Night of the no agenda roundtable for you, sir. Herc is a blow rent boys and chardonnay hot pants and booze wrenches in beer or jars and scars Or something like that someone sent me another forgot what it was Jars and scars and I was jars and some jars and junk remember jars isn't the moonshine I can't remember. Well, you know that brings it about But things are why what now everybody's giving me crap about oh yeah NASCAR start scarring Oh, yes car be going with the moonshine and the bootleggers in Ohio real fast Yeah, they decide to race instead of that's right running from revenuers What your saying is the argument what you're saying is you were wrong? No no

1:57:55 No, okay. I've got been so real working on but everything I seized more and more looks like a folk tale of folklore something to jazz up the rather boring beginnings of NASCAR Okay, which began in Daytona Florida by the way in 1948 some 15 years after the end of prohibition But why pay any attention to that? And so then somebody comes up in this day Mm-hmm Well, NASCAR itself in their new museum. They make a rule and so literally went like that into this to bullcrap all right let me call you back hold on because It's no fun when we do we can't have an interactive chat And it just doesn't work for me, so let's try this again This is new behavior that Skype has is showing us Microsoft

1:58:45 Yeah, and this is why we have to get... I mean we have to get mumble running. It won't work? Yes it will! What we need is the old Skype. Yeah but you know we got forced into upgrades and I don't think we can go back. It doesn't matter because we may not even be doing peer-to-peer anymore maybe all running through Redmond who knows. Mumble will work you just have to get the headphone part working that'll be fine It's gonna work. We're gonna get it to work, come on a little positive I didn't like the sound of you on mumble you sound really good right now Yeah well you sounded great on mumble Well i guess that's all that counts Yes indeed Jobs

1:59:22 Jobs jobs jobs. That's all I could find you found one Well, I found kind of one so I wanted to throw that as I was saying I'm working on this NASCAR thing and when a debunked the whole thing But I'm gonna really back it up with a lot of facts All right Yeah your fact-checking the the whole story is that what you're doing? You're fat pretty much Alright, let me let me take you into Syria for a moment first of all Thank you all so much for sending me the flyer Because of course you'll recall we had David Cameron speaking at the United Nations General Assembly talking about how children were used for target practice all based upon this report from SaveTheChildren.org and so a lot of people did find the report however, this a report doth not maketh

2:00:12 They've created an 18 page PDF. Have you seen this thing, John? I'm sure someone sent it to you as well. No one sent it to me! It is literally a flyer and they...and they...it's beautifully done. I mean its well produced. NO! What do you mean no?! It can't be a flyer, that's not what they said. It's a flyer! No no, that can't be true You mean it has to be a report? Is that what you're saying? Yeah yeah A detailed report probably about 75 pages... No it is 18 pages each page contains a child The title of the flyer is Untold Atrocities The Stories Of Serious Children And I'm like well okay so read through this and just as pictures

2:00:58 It has beautiful pictures of these children. And so here's Hassan, he is 14 years old on the right hand side of the page. They create a human shield of children I saw this with my own eyes and this is what their report is you see So I'm sorry and although these stories may all be 100% true, this is not a report. It has no business being called a report it is a flyer with no backup No historical information, no locations even and it is shameful

2:01:36 Shameful that this is being used as a report to do whatever the plan is in Syria And and I encourage you to look at it. It'll be in the clips and stuff section of The show notes for four eight dot any show notes calm untold atrocities PDF and in fact even for Cameron to say that they were using children as target practice is even that is untrue because there's only one story in the entire brochure and here it is. I was on this, this is as told by Munther 10 years old

2:02:19 He was shot in the head. He fell forward in a praying position I was on the street when the bullets were first fired we were standing outside school We just posed for a photo there were lots of children around then the shooting started There was chaos everyone was screaming There were bullets and blood everywhere a boy called Amjad was standing next to me he was shot in the head They were taking bets on if they could shoot him and it was not a clean shot. That's the report, John! Who is taking bets and how do you know that? That's my point exactly It's shameful This actually is child abuse to even consider using children for such a shameful report Now atrocities happen everywhere And particularly when there's fighting So I'm not saying that these things don't happen In every crazy f'd up war

2:03:15 But for this to be called a report is an outrage of epic proportions, particularly if the media and politicians are saying there's a report. It's not a report! Anyway... I wonder if Cameron is suckered by internet hoaxes? I wonder if he believes we ever landed on the moon Here is a report as we've reached a new red line This of course has nothing do with Iran or Israel, no no the red line is now being used everywhere we can use it. Well Wolf Defense Secretary Panetta a little bit unexpectedly getting right into the latest intelligence what he knows and what he doesn't know about serious chemical weapons so this is all about the chemical weapons John and I don't know you're gonna hear Panetta tell me if the guy actually knows anything

2:04:10 top Syrian opposition group claims it captured these missiles in Damascus and said they had been adapted to carry chemical and biological warheads. CNN cannot independently confirm the claim." So, they're showing Google Earth on the screen they have some guy screaming in the background and this is now proof that they have stolen some of the chemical weapons. And apparently Barbara, The Pentagon correspondent asked Panetta about it in a briefing and he's not completely full of... This is how they put together a bullcrap report okay? So you get the unconfirmed video with Google Earth footage then

2:04:53 Then you ask Panetta a question who answers like this. But now, a new admission from Defense Secretary Leon Panetta. Serious chemical weapons have been on the move and he's not sure what exactly has happened. There has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken place uh... where exactly my that's taking place so we don't know i didn't even hear him use the word chemical weapons I mean that's how poor this is. Let's continue and see what we can... I thought he said at the beginning, no? No! We didn't say chemical weapons. She said chemical weapons. Panetta insists that Bashar al-Assad forces still control the major chemical and biological sites but there are security concerns There has been some intelligence with regards to some of these sites

2:05:46 that there has been some movement in order to for the Syrians to better secure what they, the chemicals. Rebels. Chemicals! Now he's saying chemicals now how do we bring this together? We have to have another unconfirmed video another unconfirmed report and then will bring a really old video from the president To wrap it up with a red line remark. The video cannot be independently confirmed. Panetta knows rebels are on the hunt, he doesn't know if they have succeeded. I don't have any specific information about the opposition and whether or not they've obtained some of this or how much they've obtained

2:06:46 and just exactly what's taking place. President Obama has said a tight lid must stay on the Syrian arsenal We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. So this is a completely concocted report, there's not a single fact, a single verifiable statement the word chemical weapon is only used in an old piece of video from the president

2:07:27 They are setting it up, complete set-up for something to happen. Fabricated! What network was this? CNN Oh man that's terrible Completely concocted the whole thing Yeah it is...that's really embarrassing But you know the way they do it is so incredibly Smart because you know, they say chemical weapons and they just play a clip and when you see Panetta the guy's not like freaking out He's like well. What is this question? Okay Yeah Did you see Netanyahu with that stupid diagram? Oh man, you mean the Acme Corporation bomb that he drew? With a fuse. A burning fuse! I mean what is that the way these things go off? You light a fuse and boom... I actually have uh where is it when he did this thing you could literally smell the magic marker as he drew the red line on

2:08:30 On his little graph there. Actually I had an analysis from the New York Times which i thought was pretty funny Let me just see where is it? Here's BB Netanyahu drawing the red line at the UN General Assembly. Where should a red line be drawn? A red line should be drawn right here Can you smell it Yeah, it's a cheap one. It is a Chinese one before Iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment Necessary to make a bomb Okay So the New York Times hmm um here's what The New York Times said I'm actually surprised you didn't bring this up being such a new york times reader sure with an almost professorial air

2:09:34 professorial air, which means like a professor. Mr Netanyahu held up a diagram i.e., cartoon of a bomb with the fuse to show the Israeli view of Iran's progress in achieving the ability to make nuclear weapon he drew a red line through the point at which Iran would have amassed enough medium enriched uranium to make a bomb which she said would be in the spring or summer 2013 so They call this professorial, this idiotic magic marker on a Wiley E. Coyote bomb? But here's the crazy thing! In the same article they say his calculus turned on a stockpile of medium enriched uranium. Uranium enriched to the level of 20% that Iran has produced ostensibly to fuel a research reactor provided to the country by the United States

2:10:32 in the days of the Shah. Right now Iran, this is New York Times right now Iran does not possess enough of that fuel to make a single weapon in fact its stockpile has declined in recent months as it has converted some for the research reactor so here's The New York Times debunking their own bull crap About this red line and that they'd be ready in 2000 summer of 2013 By you know the actual fact that they don't even have enough to make a single weapon But the professorial Netanyahu with his magic marker. Oh, that's all groovy I mean Have I woken up in the world of insane? Yes, I mean how can this be taken seriously did you know that when I saw that picture I walked past the supermarket here in LA

2:11:23 No, no the first I saw it online and I literally thought it was like it was Friday. I thought it was a Friday Photoshop type gag that somebody put and then I walked past the newspaper stand in LA And I saw the picture and that's when I realized it was real and it blew my mind That this is actually happening. I mean that's it's insanity That this is the level we've sunken to Right? Am I nuts or... No, no. I feel the same exact way! That was the stupidest thing i've ever seen ever! For a guy at that level of head of government to draw an idiotic round bomb and just draw some arbitrary lines on it have a fuse at the top. The thing was like 30 by 6 year old. Please! And it was sparking

2:12:12 Yeah, I was sparking. It's always lit! Alright so along with this does come something very very interesting We have the Washington Institute for Near East Policy Are you familiar with the Washington Institute? It is one of those think tanks. I think i've seen one of these guys on C-SPAN Okay So uh... One of these guys was on C-SPAN and do you know what they do the Washington Institute? Uh..I can actually tell you our mission The mission of the Washington Institute is to advance a balanced and realistic understanding of American interests in the Middle East, and to promote policies that secure them.

2:12:53 The Washington Institute is of course a 501c3 organization so we can never find out who the donors are. All donations are tax deductible and here's just a brief history in 1985, a small group of visionary Americans committed to advancing US interests in the Middle East founded The Washington Institute for Near East Policy And here is one of these wonderful people telling us exactly how the United States should handle Iran, essentially by creating a false flag. And he gives many examples of previous false flags. Mind-boggling to hear this! I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough. Crisis initiation John? Bear this in mind... and it's very hard for me to see how the United States By the way hold on

2:13:41 I'm predicting that this is going to get clip of the week. We don't have a clip of the week jingle, but i'll take over day here we go. A president can get us toward Iran which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming then the traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for US interests Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into World War II, as David mentioned you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor some people might think Mr Wilson wanted to get us into World War I You may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episode Some people might think that Mr Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam and you may recall they had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode We didn't go to war with Spain until the USS... until the main exploded

2:14:30 And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the Federal Army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack So if in fact the Iranians aren't going to compromise it would be best if somebody else started the war One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions I mentioned that explosion on August 17th We could step up the pressure I mean, look people. Iranian submarines periodically go down. Someday one of them might not come up! Who would know why? We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure. I'm not advocating that but i'm just suggesting that this is not an either or proposition you know it's just sanctions has to succeed or other things...we are in the game of using covert means against Iranians. We could get nastier at that

2:15:35 Did I just hear him say we should sink an Iranian sub? Yeah, no he didn't. He just suggested it's a possibility that one might not come up again. But then he meant... Hypothetically! But then you mentioned Pearl Harbor Gulf of Tonkin and the Lusitania. All these false flag events. He's like saying hey this is what we do why is it taking so long to do it again? These kinds of meetings are very disturbing I don't get clip of the day. That's all right, no I don't feel like it. Yeah give yourself a clip No that wasn't good enough. If it doesn't come from the heart then I don't want it Well you were begging for it so... No let me try this one It was I thought it was gonna be a little more overt Let me try this one

2:16:34 Up until now, Johnny Lewis was just another aspiring actor familiar mostly to fans of Sons of Anarchy. Now Johnny Lewis is a household name and a new Hollywood murder mystery her ex-boyfriend just found dead star of a tabloid tragedy the Hollywood Murder Suicide it's one of those stories that almost seems Too crazy to be true. It's tragic Lewis beat his 81 year old landlady to death He tore her cat to pieces what could this be John have you heard of this wonderful story? I never heard of this guy who is a household name well he is now and you know why

2:17:16 No you don't. Here it comes. Oh, what could this be? Oh here we go again! Nope but there's a new one in- There's a new bath salt in town This is a cop who's talking We're not sure about that. We won't know until the toxicology report comes back from the coroner's office, but suffice to say anybody who acts in this kind of a manner would indicate that there may be some kind of drugs on board If drugs were involved does your experience tell you what sorts of things we might be talking about? Well the thing we're seeing lately here in Los Angeles and across the country are some of these synthetic designer type drugs something like bath salts or the new one that we've heard around here called smiles

2:18:02 Johnny Lewis is known to have smiles. That's the new one John smiles Smiles Have you heard of smiles? This isn't I know I have now yeah smiles It makes you it turns you into a zombie Smile do ya, I gotta try me some smiles so if anyone has any smiles please Send me that III want to try it with my howl doll at the same time oh Keep saying this I'm gonna because I'm waiting for someone to send it to me. So what is smiles? It's a bath salt Yeah, it says CI too. I think as the official it's like Carbon something or other too. It's a you know, it's all part of the just these You know that the main ingredient we've talked about the main ingredient before whatever it is

2:18:58 It's just it's just great drugs and then obviously we have to keep telling people that you shouldn't take these drugs We want you on our drugs. We want you on the On the Xanax, and we want you on the howl doll and we want you on the oxy You know these other drugs are dangerous because you might you know murder your landlady and rip her kitten apart Ripped a kid in the power superhuman strength Well, since we're all gonna die. Yeah might as well I've been telling him it vulnerability out of the blue i'm watching democracy now and they just throw this in gratuitously Uh which one is that? top clip

2:20:37 You know, some kind of weather modification in Spain. Of course these slaves are still rioting in Spain and then all of a sudden a freak flash flood? Are you kidding me?! This comes out of nowhere! It washes away entire highways and people drown on the spot I mean how often does this happen? I've never heard of it Yeah well here's the report incase you care Actually I should play them back to back so here is the slaves Meanwhile, violence erupted on the streets of the Spanish capital tonight. A rally against new austerity measures turned ugly when protesters clashed with police. Several injuries were reported. The government yesterday delivered a budget that includes widespread spending cuts and a salary freeze for workers in the public sector. Yeah... And then everyone's rioting and then... Many residents in this large area of southern Spain are already clearing up

2:21:33 But as they wade through mud and debris counting the cost of this freak weather, a British woman remains missing. Across this largely poor part of Spain the heavy rains fell almost 10 inches on Friday morning alone and it kept coming taking cars roads and bridges with it. And this has never happened As far as I know or at least not in a climate change man. Climate change is climate change Yeah, it's like a tornado that ran through this thing. I think it's global warming. Yeah All right i got one to take us out and you have an end of show clip that you Looks like something you want to play? I want to set it up though Okay So let me play this last one because tonight uh we have to watch 60 minutes very important that we watch this And as uh, I think we uh the true

2:22:26 Meaning behind the green on blue or also now dubbed the insider attacks will be revealed to us as They will be interviewing at General Allen. Oh Yeah, and it's Lara Logan by the way Who is oh yes? Yeah well there are Logan of course is the shill Who Isn't she the one who's in Egypt? Yeah, he got herself raped. Well no She said she got raped actually got her well or but then it turned out she wasn't whatever I mean It's sketchy Sketchy at best she was a wreck afterwards something happened Okay So here's a preview of Her interview tonight you're in a tough spot right now Can you explain why the

2:23:20 Sudden increase in these attacks. Well, I'm mad as hell about him to be honest with you I'm mad as hell We're gonna get after this it reverberates everywhere across the United States. This is no we're idiots Don't be calling our commanding general an idiot let him speak sounds like an idiot Kef talker we're willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign, but we're not willing to be murdered for it Now listen carefully. They understand right now the severity of this problem and the urgency of what's happening. And there have been Afghans who've been killed trying to save our forces, you know in Iraq The signature weapon system that we hadn't seen before was the IED We had to adjust to that Here...I think the signature attack that were beginning to see is going to be the insider attack Now this is very interesting what he saying

2:24:39 Because what happened with the IEDs, and in the follow-up question with Laura from the CBS morning show it seems to me like he by making the Comparison and we've been by the way these green on blue attacks. We've been tracking this on the show We've been seeing this happening more and more. We have been trying to figure out why is this happening? Is it real? Obviously someone's getting killed although gee we wouldn't know because you know of course our media doesn't show Flag-draped coffins coming back with actual soldiers. It's only for Diplomats that we see that on television, so we're just going to presume it's all really happening Why is this and is this a setup?

2:25:23 Prelude to something the IEDs in Iraq basically we never beat that and now of course were gone or except for the 50,000 Consultants who are there? And but by the way We should have mentioned the irony of the IDs in Iraq Iraq Iraq was They were dug out of the area that we mind Yeah We did some irony made a business out of digging through the minefields that we put up yeah and Getting the mines out of the ground and then Disabling them then turning them into the explosive. That's how they I mean, they're not making you know C5 in Iraq now that just dig it up the stuff we put there and using that yes So here comes the conclusion

2:26:12 Larry, the big question about US troops in Afghanistan is the 2014 departure date. Will this hasten or delay it? Well Charlie, he's a commanding general right? So he is not going to commit himself to anything like that. But you just have to look at the effect that this has had to realize it can impact on when the troops are coming home I got a sense even there was a feeling there was a push for troops to come home sooner than 2014 but thats a political timetable and a political push more then what is driven by reality on the battlefield and I think this such a severe

2:26:50 crisis that General Allen clearly was in crisis mode doing everything they could to try and bring this under control right now because of the implications not just for the short term training mission but for the long-term status a forces agreement how you know how are you going to keep Americans there over the long term to train Afghans if this is what will happen to them So I found this to be very interesting. What i'm hearing Lara say in her setup, because of course a general and we know from the McChrystal affair... A general is not just going to go on 60 Minutes without some kind of approval from someone somewhere that this is going to be discussed unless he's gone completely rogue and what I'm hearing is We're getting out sooner than 2014! Sol Coote think it'd be a scenario to get us out?

2:27:39 But why? Is this the true October surprise where the president now says, let's get out now! Bring home the troops. He couldn't be able to pull that off now. The setup is still taking place. Well hold on a second his Sunday night is 60 minutes and then he still has two days before the first debate. Interesting theory. I don't know but it's something going on with it and we've been waiting for the true motivation behind the green on blue reporting to reveal itself and I think that's tonight so we'll hopefully we'll find out more. Yeah, all right they got one last little clip apparently these temperatures are rising here in the Bay Area so this subject panic mode is taking place i don't know why this happened before but now uh... we have reports that they're setting up places for the overheated

2:28:37 Now, from ABC 7 News. Good morning I'm Carolyn Tyler several Bay Area counties are opening cooling centers to help people deal with the heat today in Santa Clara County centers will be open in Cupertino and Morgan Hill Contra Costa County has three centers in San Ramon and you can cool off in Alameda County at three city libraries and the Union City Sports Center And what does a cooling center exist of? Air conditioner, I guess? I don't know why they're doing this. I've never seen this before. It's all part of the global warming man! We're all gonna die man we need cooling centers everywhere What temperature do you think we are going to have here in the... like where i am right now? I dunno like 80? 91 Oh whoo! Can ya handle it? What was the temperature that you had there typically Austin temperature in the summer In the summer 100

2:29:33 100 just a hundred that's it. That's a typical temperature and some days that it can be 105 And some say they have cooling centers all over the place to keep people from dropping dead yes, we call them bars We walk in and we have a beer and then we're cool and then we go out and we go shoot some guns Okay, so apparently this is the beginning week of the Ganesh festival now hold on let me Let me get our end-of-show music going here Yes So the Ganesh festival, that's one of the gods... One of the more important gods in India. Yeah! And they celebrate him for 10 days and they make statues This is the one who has got 4 arms and elephant head. Yeah with a crazy like octopus-like arms

2:30:20 No, no. That's different this is just forearms. Oh okay But an elephant head nestle the whole thing is explained and because I guess the Indians have a lot of these celebrations but we get to find out a lot because we have no Indian donors so I figured maybe this might help by playing this little tidbit from China News by that came out of China This report you'll know everything you need to know apparently they build these things up These copies of this thing people come in worship them then throw em' in the drink part of this found reason. I don't know why but they take them, they... This is a god of wealth and then they chuck him in the water at the very end And will this bring us wealth to this program? Yeah that's what i'm thinking All right everybody We'll play that as an end-show clip and uh..we will be talking again on Thursday I'll be in Washington DC and I'm still here in Los Angeles California celebrating Carmageddon Part 2 In The Morning I'm Adam Curry

2:31:16 And from Northern Silicon Valley where we never have a Carmageddon. Oh I get it, CAR C-A-R! Ah! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk again on Thursday right here on NO Agenda The Ganesh Festival or Ganesh Chaturthi is celebrated by Hindus around the world as the birthday of Lord Ganesha. The most elaborate celebrations are seen along the western coast of India where people start making the Ganesha idol at least a month in advance. The festival ends with Lord Ganesha's idol being immersed in the sea. Shweta Bajaj reports from India

2:32:01 The elephant-headed god of wisdom and prosperity, Lord Ganesha's birthday celebrations are spread over 10 days in India. The celebration start with a decorated Ganesha's idol that is worshipped each one on the ten days Hindus believe that Lord Ganesha brings in good luck To get his blessings, a beautifully decorated Ganesha is kept on a raised platform in every household where people come and pay their homage. The priest invokes what is believed to be life in the idol by chanting mantras.

2:32:44 Youngsters come in groups and travel from one household to another singing devotional songs in an effort to appease the Lord. Young boys practice for months to go from house-to-house to sing At the end of 10 days, the best group is judged This particular form involves a handmade instrument made from lizard skin & mud This is a very traditional instrument. We use this instrument for Ghumat Aarti from Portuguese time, you can say. Since we were childs we used this instrument and it's really nice to play and all that

2:33:21 After 10 days of being worshipped in homes and temples across India, the Lord is then taken to streets in a procession accompanied by devotees to be immersed in the sea. It is believed that immersion in the sea is his journey towards His abode which is considered to be Kailash mountains and He takes away all misfortunes of mankind with Him Lord Ganesha is known to be one of the most loved Gods in India. For the entire 10 days of the festival's duration, he is fed with his favorite food and sweets and finally he is offered to the God of the Sea

2:34:00 Across the western coast whole community comes to worship the Lord and the celebrations are accompanied by dramatic performances and contests like these where people make art with colored powder. It is believed that Lord Ganesha bestows his presence on earth for all His devotees during this festival, on this day Shiva declared his son Ganesha as superior to all the gods barring Vishnu, Lakshmi, Shiva and Parvati. Traditional stories tell that Lord Ganesha was created by Goddess Parvati out of sandalwood paste and later put life into the figure through

2:34:41 Through his life, Ganesha faced a number of obstacles as other lords challenged him but he overcame all of them. Later he was killed and to appease Goddess Parvati who threatened to kill the universe an elephant's head was fixed onto Lord Ganesha's body and from then He has been called The Elephant Headed God This period also marks the onset of festival season in the Hindu calendar. Shweta Bajaj, CCTV Goa Western Coast India It's almost too delicious to believe my friend Obama! Yes everybody in Cleveland low minority got Obama phone Keep Obama in President you know He gave us a phone

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