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00:00 Zuck, zuck, zuck, zuck! Adam Curry. John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday September 20th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 445 This is no agenda Struggling with Skype, but on the air nonetheless from Obama's backyard Chicago Illinois in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i'm just staying put while reading The New York Times. I'm John C Dvorak Oh It sounds so crappy today they say you sound tinny on the stream Yeah well maybe it's because I'm talking out of my butt

00:42 So what's new? Well you know this is not the, let me try this. This is not the lovely setup that I had on the road. No of course not! That was like multiple... This isn't a suitcase now. You were all rigged. Your normal rig actually was on the road Yeah and this is the internet in a suitcase so basically I run everything on one single machine because I you know the other one had multiple monitors it had what else that have you know and i'd like the whole the whole big thing. The whole shebang! Yeah, yeah it wouldn't fit in three suitcases so this is a you know and also when I talk I hear little delay so I hear my voice a millisecond later than it comes out of my piehole

01:31 That's not, that's gotta be annoying. But I've done a little bit of the filtering here so it should work anyway in the morning to you John C Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the knights out there who patiently wait. Yeah hell yeah and our words of wisdom yes and thank you uh all of the human resources in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net who have been helping us troubleshoot for the past half hour together to get everything sounding kind of decent Right now we're running, I'm in a hotel here kind of near Chicago Avenue and State Street.

02:16 Wow, you're right downtown. Yeah yeah and of course you know the hotel Wi-Fi... Did you rent a car? No no we just were walking I did a speech yesterday i'm here for the cusp conference that's somebody said hey Adam's on he's streaming right now oh they streamed it yeah Oh really! Oh I didn't realize that. It came in as a tweet but I missed it. When I went to when I went to the stream there was some people doing ice dancing No, no they were jump roping. Ice dancing! Yeah no jump roping that's right Then you missed me That was right after I was done Oh this is too bad Jump roping to some canned music it sucked Let me tell you about this conference You remember Chuck and Dana who we stayed with on the first Hot Pockets tour? Yes I don't Right yes you don't exactly Well Chuck actually had a real harp And then we had the real harp playing in the... Maybe you remember that A blues harp

03:15 No, like a classical harp. Anyway so you know they were really sweet and we stayed with them for a few days and Chuck works for this company Symbolic or S-M-Bolic which is a design company and apparently they've been putting on this conference for the past five years and it's literally like a TED but without the stigma and that bullshit elitism and... It sounds like Ted? But without the stigma and the bullshit elitism So there's no... Nothing like Ted. Yeah exactly and they literally say you know anyway and the three partners of this firm, they get up on stage and say well hey buddy you know the people we've invited here to inspire you we have no idea what they're gonna say they're probably going to offend somebody at some point and it's all gonna fucking suck literally that's how they talk

04:03 Then and but it's it's done at the Museum of Contemporary Art. It's really high-tech They got you know a great AV set up beautiful theater And the and the presenters were just outstanding I just we were blown away Mickey was supposed to go shopping at Topshop, and she stayed You know in her seat for six hours yesterday? Just watching everything so what'd you learn um I learned Oh man, well let me tell you I learned three things. No no listen one the guy before me the speaker before me was Wendell Potter and you don't remember...I'm not even gonna ask you he wrote the book Deadly Spin which i read somewhere in 2010 I think and that was the book that led me He's the former Cigna healthcare guy who turned around and wrote the book and said hey everyone is like just screwing you in this health care business Remember this guy? Yeah

05:00 So he was the one that inspired me to go look at all of the PowerPoint presentations of the pharmaceutical companies when we discovered that vaccines was going to be their next big push. And then, so then he was speaking before me! It's like a total perfect setup for me to talk about No Agenda because he was like hey you know everyone is lying to you and the healthcare guys are in the sickness business it's the sickness industry and it was fantastic! The guy is really cool But even funnier than that, do you remember the Indian comedians at the State Department spent like a hundred eighty thousand dollars on to send them around a tour of India? Yeah. These guys were here one of them was speaking

05:46 Do you stand up? Yeah, yeah. Stand up and the guy... what's worse is the guys like hey Adam I'm a big fan! I'm like oh shoot man after we ragged on these guys it felt really bad Maybe he knew that you ragged on him so he said that just to get your goat No they had no idea They had no idea I did tell them though I came clean and said Hey know we really ragged on that whole scam you guys pulled off He says yeah that was pretty cool Alright And who else was here? I mean, it's very interesting. So I've definitely learned some cool things at the conference. I guess it's online then maybe there is a video of it you can see it but I definitely talked about our podcast John and didn't just take all the props myself like you usually expect me to do. So I have to tell you something because its gonna begin to annoy me. I don't know how your working them but you have a lip smack at the end of occasional sentences so you say something

06:48 Really? Yeah, now I believe it's the mic or the way you're working the mic. It's because i've never heard this before from you! It's my lips But you keep saying something No no that's just what you're hearing That's definitely not me I'm not lip smacking I'll ring the bell when I hear and then you can decipher yourself Uh nope That wasn't it I don't think I'm lip smacking Did you hear there? No Oh okay So um Anyway, so of course the pain in the ass of doing this is that you know I'm here on a show day and And I'm in the hotel and it's gonna be this way for the next couple of weeks because after this well I think Sunday as a normal a normal show from Camp Mofo then. It's Miss Mickey's turn She's got her her you know her big art shows when go to Los Angeles first That'll be next week Thursday and Sunday. There will be a thrill Well yeah

07:47 Well, I mean what doing the shows there or or uh... or doing the going there Yeah, well hey while you're at the way you're down there. You should go check in out the studios I'm gonna check in the studios. I'm also gonna try and get on The Joe Rogan Show that's what I've been wanting to yes Yes Get on The Joe Rogan show we both need to do that right and then after then I'm gonna Go uh... We're going to DC for her second show And then finally somewhere after that ummm you know like uhhh first week uhh end of the first week of October were back so it's gonna be a little uh a little weird and umm It just makes it weird I wanna see if I can fix whats going with the with a lip smacking. Well it hasn't happened again maybe it was uh I don't know you know what it is we're just so spoiled because we used to have crappy connections all the time back in the day and that yeah and it's still kind of amazing what's actually taking place, and we would not want to miss an episode to bring you The Best Podcast In The Universe that's why we are proudly here bringing you Episode 400. Yes we go out of our way! We have missed shows and we took two days off once in five years

08:51 uh... but generally speaking we managed to get the shows produced it when we're floating around the world and the worst case in our country drop run some island that was really the absolute worst yeah i went out on board there that would have to be a that's been bad this is a second close though i mean it's not far off from being pretty bad anyway um... you got the lip smack i don't know what it may be a mip smacking Maybe this is a new habit. I think it's the Heldol. You ate, was it strawberries or was it something you had for breakfast? It's the Heldol! I've gotten two offers for Heldol. Do not take it!

09:38 what do you like that now i can't decide if i want to take it said so once before why catwell daddy i wanna try held all of sound so far and the new movement but i won't take it on the show just wanted to hide it was taken as a show that people get them people tuning in uh... there had just been with the drooling zombie well-fed web It is no longer a war for autonomy or self-determination.

10:31 This is a now war of independence whether the international community recognize it or not this is what the Baluch people are fighting and the Pakistan army so far It has said they have made 15,000 people disappear Nationalist leaders say US supplied resources and weapons meant to combat al-qaeda linked Taliban on the Pakistan Afghanistan border are being used against the balochs Pakistan is is using all the resources that the American government is giving Pakistan to fight the Islamic extremists and terrorists, but those resources and monies are being spent against the Baluch people. Against the Baluch National Movement and against the Baluch freedom fighters

11:23 Yes, it makes so much sense because these people who are in the northwestern part of Pakistan are clearly dangerous to America. This is why we have to kill them, disappear them! 15 thousand of them!! It's a good number, geez. So this of course for those of you who did not hear the analysis of this in the initial Redbook entry is because of the pipeline that Turkmenistan Afghanistan Pakistan India pipeline also known as TAPI which is literally going through this region and the freedom fighters as they're called who are being disappeared they just don't want no part of it

12:01 and there's uh... either they're blowing the pipeline up for their standing in the way or their parking a camel's there i know what's going on but the people are being disappeared because of this and it's purely because of the pipeline now another another uh... about show we just get when when the libyan team first broke out weaker initial analysis was that that he had decided to too uh... yet that tied with the trainers and that meant a refinery, and it meant all these other things. And they had to stop! We don't care if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over Libya which they might or one of these awards would this Chinese not... So I ran this little tidbit which got by us Which is the clip... There's a Libya clip on there. I don't see a Libya clip

12:54 French to the bottom, then you get Cape, Spain. I heard no agenda! There's no agenda we can't miss China and Libya All of this instability has a crippling impact on Benghazi's ambition to rebuild This sprawling new town for 200 thousand people was abandoned last year by its Chinese developers They and other foreign investors have yet to return Okay, so they show this. This is like one of those ghost cities in China they were building. It was huge and if they show the whole thing it's kind of like a just essentially framework also meant framework that's gutted because he never got halfway through the project but it was a whole town that Chinese were building just like they've been doing throughout Africa and I guess...I think that's another part of them you know another

13:45 another nail in the coffin for the Chinese and Libyan that's why we let this whole thing blow up. But it was huge, 200... That was the beginning of a 200 thousand people. You know what is really cool? Is that the minute you start to get into some interesting news particularly about China Skype just decides to make you sound like your in China Funny because your sound deteriorated too what do you not stack i'll really well you're not great so how do we uh... here's how to be tied this into what's happening with the china is in tokyo and play this report to you because uh... there's this these islands was going on and he's fake protests are very interesting and then here's the report that really throw some fuel on fire for that eleven chinese government ships are assembled in waters around me island smaller vessels of all they've been seen anchored offshore

14:45 Now this follows the latest in a series of anti-Japan demonstrations within China. Our correspondent Martin Patience sent us this update from Beijing. The protesters have been chanting things like declare war on Japan as well as flatten Tokyo but despite all the anger it's actually pretty orderly here there is heavy police presence Flatten Tokyo! Am I supposed to believe that literally walking around calling flattened Tokyo in China, Beijing? Yeah. Now I understand that part of this is depending on what report you listen to because I've been watching both the Chinese news and the Japanese news. The Japanese are very distressed by this by the way but they're both reporting it and of course calling the islands different things

15:33 one of the things that struck me is that the Chinese, they don't mention this in most of these English reports. There's like some anniversary of the rape of Nan King and this is still an issue because the Japanese have refused to apologize for what they did to the Chinese during that era pre-World War II and uh... i think that it's the does that element is at but is this just a pay prelude to an attack a prelude to war i mean it seems like an offer you to an apology i guarantee effort to put in the book that the japanese are going to be forced to apologize for those nanking which exam honestly believe this was really behind us then they'll start negotiating over about the rights of his big oil field which is actually what this is all so when did this man king thing happen

16:23 What do you know, the rape of Nanjing this was happening in the 30s. Oh yeah sure I remember! Well no i mean this is a major part of history where the Chinese and Japanese took over part of China and then they just basically killed people and raped all women and they were just the most brutal regime in the history of China and the Chinese are still pissed off about it And the Japanese have refused to apologize Yeah we've talked about this... now I'm recalling that we've talked about this before On the show years ago, and it was from some other thing that happened And I think it would related directly to this as well Chinese have a long memory hmm now they want an apology

17:04 and the Japanese are so full of pride they won't give it. Well why don't they just come out and say it, hey apologize? Because because they don't think it's cool I don't know doesn't make sense to me either but the Japanese refuse to apologize because then they would admit that were wrong right now they don't want to do that I have no idea there is no real explanation that says valid The Japanese have changed their textbooks their history text books and they don't have much about this in and they don't know the kind of like uh... blame now it's like that never was their fault this is really did does it's uh... pressing action right but still it comes down to the oil and gas fields that surround these islands right but this is a real reason right but i would say that

17:49 No negotiations will begin and this is going to continue until the... I think, I really do think they're related. I think the reason for all the protests because there's other ways of dealing with this problem besides protesting it. They're shutting down all the Japanese businesses The sushi shop was raided busted up the place in downtown Beijing There's a little Japan town there that place all closed down They're rushing these guys out of the country, but they're also turning the deputies and closing things in China. It's spiraling out of control." So I met a guy yesterday who came up to me and he said, hey Adam you and John have been looking at the helium shortage? And he told me why

18:42 Why were you told you I will be noted no he totally tell me why there's a helium shortage okay so and he said he actually paid for money to research this his company is pioneer balloon the he sells helium balloons Daniel Flynn And he's the chief operating officer and he says, we had two plants go offline. Helium of course is... you trap helium when you're getting natural gas out of the ground

19:19 He says the number one reason is we're just not pumping gas out anywhere really even though there's a lot of talk and a lot of talk about fracking and Really big talk he says it is too expensive to get the gas out of the ground And until the price goes above three. I think he said $3 in 20 cents per megabit Whatever the price right now the natural gas is so in the tank Yeah, take a look and what's even more interesting? He said that the Russians, because I said well how about Gazprom? These guys got tons of gas. He says the Russians have lots of helium but they're not exporting it so what are they doing just sucking on it and talking in high voices all day what are they going to do with helium? He says I don't know but they're not exporting and therefore there's a huge shortage in the entire world but he says its direct result of the price of gas being too low to actually get out of the ground

20:12 So he says it needs to be $3.25, right now the price of gas is... $3.20, he said. Right now it's $2.78. And Spanish has been depressed, it's never down at 2.75, it has really been low for a long time! What he's saying is that all this talk about natural gas they're not even really pumping out of the ground, at this price they are just not doing it That what I thought was really interesting and therefore we have no helium Okay, that makes nothing but sense to me. Yeah it's all bogus so there still is the everything is bullcrap yeah gee Hey, there's a news flash Bullshit Newsflash everything is bullcrap John

20:58 But it is kind of interesting how all these commercials for America's natural gas and I mean they've got to figure out some way to jack that price up. And i don't know how they're going to do it, but i think they have tried just about everything and can come up with a reasonable way to do it No, they have. T-Boone Pickens has been out there the tub thumping trying to get people you know to liquefy and do anything he can and it's just been a yeah natural gas is really cheap. So what is... we can probably put a prediction in the book if we just think hard enough about how they're gonna do this how would I mean you have to either increase demand or decrease supply isn't that the two main ways you do it?

21:44 Yeah, well they've tried both. That doesn't work! Or the price of oil... They figure when oil gets above 80 bucks people start switching over to natural gas and they never have. It's weird. And the big plants you know we can't... Well once they put the clamps on coal we can't use coal anymore so they switch over to natural gas and it still doesn't move the price When the price moves it's going to move but oh yeah then it'll it may be five bucks. Yeah, it'll move real fast bitching about the price of natural gas and you're gonna everything works like that but it's been forever I mean it's unbelievably hot it's actually stuns the traders on Wall Street or the commodity traders about price of natural gas being so low that staying there

22:30 Well you think those guys would be able to do something, would be able to jack it up? That's kind of what they'd think. But no, apparently not. That's what they do! I know but they can't do it! It's like how much power did they really have?! Let's... They used to rule stuff at $724 a share. Let's thank our producers John while I can still actually hear you Am I falling apart? It's really bad. It's just really, really bad in a second it's not gonna make any difference. It's not gonna make any difference. It's just not ever since Microsoft took over Skype they've just started to suck balls Okay, well we do have a couple of associate executive producers and one executive producer for today's show 445 Eric Wilka in Rushaville Indiana which I bet it was found by Russians

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27:13 is like 20 hours a month plus. Yeah, we're gonna have to subtract today's show though because you only getting half the program You're only hearing my part and not John so... Devorak dot org slash N A And of course you can always do something extremely important which is I don't know propagate the formula? The formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Oh yeah, everybody come on say it loud and proud now. Shut up slave! Everything's a mess John the whole thing is a mess. Shut up slave! Um I'm gonna call you back because You've deteriorated so much iIm almost thinking you might want to reboot your router or something I don't know what this is 4G ladies and gentlemen 4g we've done 4g before and it worked fine

28:10 Now this is 4G in Chicago! Could you, um... Do you think it's worth rebooting your router or is that just- I can do it. It doesn't hurt Yeah why don't we just- Just takes about two minutes Yeah You just do that because let's at least try it It's just..I mean I'm sitting here sweating and getting angry Yeah Okay bye Hope y'all understand And uh Alright I'm back Okay Oh it's good for now I have a long, right please? I have a long clip That I only because I think it needs discussing. Okay, so banking issues that need discussing we've talked about what's going on in Europe and by the way It looks like well, that's some other issues but it's I don't know this guy had this clip and I'm trying to clip pieces from and I said I don't know maybe you just play this clip and then discuss it because maybe you know more about it than I do but it seems to be that

29:10 These, all these things that the EU's gonna do they haven't done half of them and they're gonna do them or not gonna do them. Okay! Alright let's take a listen. The proposed region-wide banking system Deep divisions over the Eurozone's proposed banking union dominated the meeting of EU finance ministers in Cyprus which wrapped up on Saturday. Brussels wanted the first step of that union to be the European Central Bank becoming the supervisor of all the bloc's roughly 6,000 banks For the agreement to work all 17 Eurozone countries must sign off on a single binding blueprint which non-Euro EU countries can join if they wish

29:52 But Germany and Sweden rejected the idea of the ECB being the supervisor. And Berlin wants only a few hundred big banks to be handled by this scheme, while Sweden's minister said his country would never accept an external supervisor Even the ECB hinted that a basic legal framework might be better idea than taking direct charge of all the bloc's banks. Crucially, the legal authority over all the banks is necessary because then we will have the authority at any moment to call into closer supervision any bank or group of banks that we see fit to call to the centre

30:34 And desperate for growth, the private sector watched on believing the ECB's time would be better spent on other projects anyway. The ECB should now target their banks and force them to start lending to businesses It was announced that the European Stability Mechanism, the new bailout fund would have its first board meeting next month But many economists believe it will take a lot more time before the fund will be operational and ready to recapitalize troubled banks. It's not easy to implement... Well this is pretty much I think what we talked about when Heiko Hermann

31:13 essentially placed the proposal on the table saying okay you have to pull all your sovereignty we're going to get the regulator in. I mean it's just another stepping stone towards a complete takeover of the European Union, of Europe essentially by the pharmaceutical companies, oil companies all based upon patents and genetically modified crap that just keep these people completely enslaved 500 million people so its nothing new to me well here is what gets me You know, obviously my voice is not good. Why is Germany against this idea? I thought the whole EU scheme was to give Germany power over everyone as a kind of fourth Reich. Here's the way I see it. Germany likes the controlling of slaves

32:05 But they don't like anyone having anything to say over their banking system, over the German bank. I think that's where the rub is And so, you know it may just be a smoke screen John. I don't know the way i see it the way this European Union has been built up since what is it 1956 or 1957 when they first started it? It's all been about the same thing! It's been about the patents on pharmaceuticals make sure no one eats any healthy food get out give them all the GMO remember that was never going to happen in Europe now it's all over the place Keep the oil by the way that transition from never gonna happen to everyone's got it now is amazing isn't it though? So, you know It's just more of the same and it's another stepping stone and I Know I talked to people in Europe And they don't they're not even I don't know if if they're just completely oblivious to it Don't care If there too wrapped up in their

33:06 local national politics, they really don't see the big picture. It's astounding to me how they do not see the big picture of what is really taking place right before their very eyes Well, we're having the same problem in this country and we're not seeing it either. I do have one more clip which will... because you brought it up The GMO This is what you can expect In Europe in the years ahead The agricultural update on super weeds For every action there's a reaction and it is true in the world of pharmaceuticals as well. An increase in genetically modified crops in the United States has led to arise in so-called super weeds, these pesky plants are resistant to many herbicides forcing farmers to use up to 20 times the recommended dose of weed killer Matt McGrath reports

34:02 The rise of resistant weeds on Jeremy Leach's farm near Humboldt, Nebraska has threatened both his livelihood and his family. Last year he spent around $7500 on chemical sprays that failed to protect his crops. And the pungent pollen from these superweeds seriously affected his 8-year old daughter's asthma. When that stuff is pollinating and when the pollen is really thick in there it makes it hard for her to breathe outside when you live on a farm You know, the kids play outside all the time. One of the weeds causing the biggest problems for farmers across the United States is giant ragweed and I'm in a field of it now and you can see these plants tower over my head they're six to seven feet tall The scientists here at University of Nebraska have been trying to kill these weeds using extra doses of chemical spray These particular weeds were able to survive 24 times the recommended dose And if the scientists can't kill them with chemicals in three to five years these weeds would take over this entire cornfield

35:00 The weed resistance has been caused by the huge success of GM in the US, which has encouraged farmers to use only one chemical. Now the biotech industry believes that solution to the weed problem lies in adding another herbicide that until now was too destructive to crops 2, 4-D. This time lapse shows the gradual killing of a common weed after spraying with 2,4-d weed killer. Dow AgroSciences has designed a corn that can resist 2,4-d best known for being part of the mix that constituted Agent Orange. Monsanto. Oh shoot! Monsanto. Yeah so this is... wait let me just understand this

35:47 In order to combat the super weed These weeds are seven feet high. We're going to spray them with Agent Orange? Is this what he understands from the report? This is so awesome, this is just great! Hey you know what John I'm just gonna interrupt us one more time and I'm gonna try and switch to the hotel network see if we have any luck with that because it's just not worth it Okay, all right. So let me just try that So the stream will probably be interrupted temporarily let's see what happens and how we do Any all kinds of crazy things could happen here? Let's see okay. We're switching networks Hello hello yeah maybe better I don't know we'll see hey, we'll just try this for a little while um Okay

36:54 Man, this is going to be an edit job for sure. Sorry to hear that I know how much you hate that Yes i do so um but no this has not gone unnoticed in our uh in our house of representatives in the United States of America Dennis Kucinich actually stood up in front of the house and he gave a little speech about Monsanto did you happen to catch this? No I know but I'm sure it will now one minute thank In 1992, the Food and Drug Administration decided that genetically modified organisms were the functional equivalent of conventional foods. They arrived at this decision without testing GMOs for allergenicity, toxicity, antibiotic resistance and functional characteristics. As a result hundreds of millions acres of GMO crops were planted in America

37:42 Without the knowledge or consent of the American people, no safety testing and no long-term health studies. The FDA has received over a million comments from citizens demanding labeling of GMOs. 90% of Americans agree. So why no labeling? I'll give you one reason...the influence and the corruption of the political process by Monsanto. Monsanto's been a prime mover in GMO technology, a multi-million dollar GMO lobby here and a major political contributor there is a chance that Monsanto's grip will be broken in California where a GMO labeling initiative is on the ballot and here in Congress my legislation

38:19 H.R. 3553 will provide for a national labeling bill Americans have the right to know if their food is genetically engineered It's time for labeling, it's time for people to know how their food is being produced I'd say it's pretty good they got him out of Congress, don't you? Oh yeah. I'm glad they aroused at him Good work boys! Yeah get rid of that guy And by the way when he gets out and when he is in the street beat him up Throw them in the mud do something like that This is unbelievable It was great I mean its great that hes introducing a bill which will go nowhere and he just laying it out there this what they should be showing on the news instead of Kate Middleton boobs

39:04 And they never do show her boobs, so what's the point? Speaking of Europe that pretty much proved to me that Europe is just a totalitarian state. How in the world can you forbid a news or any type of publication from taking pictures of someone out in public on the boat and publicizing them. I mean, of course if you're royal it's not done but if your any other person then screw you! And yet this is now been forbidden. I find that amazing that people put up with this. They don't only put up with it they are an agreement. Yeah its even worse

39:48 Here's a couple of clips from Kate, William and Kate I thought were funny. First of all let's play clip two first because there is the irony clip but then i have a point to make the gifting clip is that the one you want yes by that far away from the courtroom of none tear the royal couple were concentrating on their continuing tour of the Solomon Islands I saw this and Duchess were each presented with a gift from a group of topless ceremonial dancers in light of recent events perhaps an awkward moment awkward you know they walk I saw the video they walked right by like don't look at the boobies, don't look with the boobies, don't look with the boobies but yet this is okay. The elites can go look at that black people's boobies but let's not look at your white ones!

40:34 So here's the thing, here are the two clips I want to play. One is William and Kate It has a little stinger at the end which i thought was interesting because it's like wait a minute we don't have... even we our free press, United States Free Press would never say what they're going to say in this clip As yet no name The Royals don't know the identity of the photographer that intruded on their privacy The magazine is unlikely to tell them, and the court won't force them to do so. In France the protection of sources is taken very seriously. Ooh! The protection of sources eh? Protect that taken seriously in France and so then I'm thinking well, that's that's nice for the French Of course the you know This is gonna differential be part of them civil war or when it finally happens Value their freedom and that French don't listen our show because they know everything's crap anyway Because they say yeah. Well this is not news to

41:28 So, French cartoons cause stir. This is the thing that's going to be interesting over the next week. It hasn't been played much in the US but this is like how they deal with this Muslim fiasco over the movie A French satirical magazine published cartoon today that risk igniting new outrage on the Muslim world They featured vulgar images of the prophet Mohammed and satirize the violent reaction to an American-made film that insults Islam. Muslim leaders in France called the cartoons a disgraceful provocation, but the magazine's publishing director insisted it was about free speech."

42:04 Muhammad is sacred for the Muslims and I can understand that, but for Muslims only. I am atheist. Muhammad is not sacred for me. I understand perfectly that the Muslims don't violate the law of blasphemy and I don't blame Muslims for not laughing at our drawings But they shouldn't tell me under which law should live. I live under French Law And I don't live under Quranic Law Yeah, this is interesting. A because I've not been able to actually find any of these cartoons drawings pictures illustrations etc and it seems like even the BBC couldn't find any of these. Let's see... Have you seen anything? No i haven't but just assume they've been censored. I think if you went to google.fr

42:50 I don't know. Well, here's a report that was on the BBC regarding this... And it may not be on the internet! Not everything they do in France... Just about everything makes it one way or another. Listen to this for a second. I've been talking about all of this just before we came on air first with Agnes Poirier, French political commentator and film critic she was on the line from Paris and Oussama Hassan senior researcher at counter-terrorism think tank Quilliam began by asking Agnes Poirier whether she'd seen the cartoons Well I have seen some of the cartoons because from this morning, very early this morning it was impossible to get a copy of Charlie Hebdo. I went to ten different newsagents in Paris... But she's in Paris! And just couldn't find it so I had to do with what some friends sent me and so I haven't got the full pictures

43:39 So she hasn't got the full pictures yet. She has an opinion what's your response to what you've seen? Look, it's a question of Taste I guess and sense of humor and sensitivity Personally, I you know, i'm not a regular reader of charlie hebdo charlie Hebdo is in the trade of provocation also thought-provoking cartoons, it's news weekly. It must be said I think it is important covering the week's news in cartoons and its got a very irreverent tone that's its trademark now you know you will always find people finding offensive. I have in the past

44:20 I'm asking what your impression was. Did you find it to be witty, biting satire? Let me just remind you this is on the BBC she says... Wait a minute, hold on a second. She's very clearly not saying that she... she's very clear about what she has and hasn't said and this guy is goading her into giving his opinion. Yeah but he's hounding her this British guy! Well she's the correspondent, she's being paid to give a report

44:56 Well, I know but at the same time she just gave it. She said look I haven't seen the thing and then she gave a background on the publication What's she supposed to do? Well here's you're supposed to lie here it comes some Funny I found some others not funny at all some vulgar some offensive and Some boring. She's just following the script. You didn't see anything Well that is the BBC script of course now there you go Of course it's the BBC script. Yeah, no she is following the script but it's the BBC script The French are different and you know with all this action over the Danish cartoons You'd think these things would be picked up and spread all over the place But they know its not going to have any effect on the French

45:38 Well, I think what we really need to realize if you look at the news at least here in Gitmo Nation United States proper is that there are no more protests. Everything is over all as well. We are not interested in talking about the innocence of of muslim video because we now have the uh... mit romney video who were completely done this is all as well and for not look even looking at uh... at egypt or libya or or any of the thirty places where looking at four days ago it's just on that you notice this is over is not enough to get nothing happens more important that that ronnie talking to a group of uh... in

46:18 I guess, contributor says you know 47% of the Americans are idiots that won't vote for me. And this is like breaks... This is like oh why is this even talked about? What do you expect him to say I think they had this ready to go. No, it's already been known...this was out over three months ago in March when he made this speech and it was apparently a Twitter sensation for a little while that died and has just been revitalized for the purposes of the election! And everyone is all upset about it. I can't get upset about it

46:57 I was for or against Romney, i don't see what the big deal is. What's the big deal? Explain it to me. The big deal is just because news media have been told...the ones who are running commercials and make money from this entire tight race, this campaign, you know, presidential race they've been told to make a big deal of it And so that's what they just it doesn't matter. It's like if it's not Middleton's boobs then it's this we just need to make a big deal out of something and I think it was well played, I mean it's perfectly played because you know we had this foreign policy argument and now not on...and this is what really got me about this not only is this

47:38 about you know spinning this into oh Romney's a, he doesn't give a crap about half of America but listen to Soledad O'Brien and here is how she has taken this. To our starting point this morning Mitt Romney calling President Obama supporters those people. Inferring racial Those people inferring that I don't know what the black. Remember him saying those people no he didn't that's the whole point this is it unbelievable how this is being spun is being turned into a complete racial thing which is freaking me out

48:17 Well, this is in the red book. We've talked about they've been trying to turn this into a racial issue since the get-go to bring everything straight. They haven't been able to pull off the race riots which they tried but that didn't work out. What's his name? Hold on I actually tweeted this what's his name from who was that guy I think it's isn't it yeah from here This was in The Daily Beast, hold on a second and he actually says here's why Mitt is 100% wrong on the 47%, that's the whole article but then at the bottom he literally takes it to a racial point. So everyone is like dissecting what is the 47%. And crap I wish I had it right handy here... Here we go

49:16 When you ask white Americans to estimate the black population of the United States, the answer averages out at nearly 30%. Ask them to estimate Hispanic population and the answer averages 22% So this is how they come up with like you know approximately 50 percent. So when a politician or a broadcaster talks about 47% independency, the image that swims into many white voters minds is not their mother in Florida her social security untaxed receiving medicare benefits blah blah blah it is basically black people and hispanic people and for this to be written like this it's quite a stretch

49:55 I was like wow what is a guy mind reader? Apparently evidence for this. This is not evidence based reporting, this is just bull crap yeah but it's inciting race and we predicted this would happen and here it is! Yeah well they're not getting as far as they'd like to and here my favorite clip this is the BBC of course jumping on board and the way that they preface the whole Romney deal, and this is essentially just a preface. It just cracked me up because they take it to another extreme. Play the BBC report on Romney. Mitt Romney doesn't need headlines like this just 49 days before America votes His latest problem? The left-leaning magazine Mother Jones has published a secret video of a dinner with rich financial supporters The Republican candidate suggests almost half of all Americans are scroungers who'd be bound to support Obama

50:52 scroungers! scroungers! scroungers! half of americans are scroungers that's great I love the scrounger vibe, that's cool scroungers! you use scroungers? scroungers i tell you, scoundreling scroungers oh wow well that's pretty good. that was pretty good okay yeah Well Richard Branson was, I mean we're kind of done on the Romney thing right? Let me look. Yes i hope so! Yeah and by the way do you not get the idea that it's also possible that

51:33 in light of our general thinking that no one wants to run the country for the next four years, that maybe the Republican Party just put this video out just throw it in a towel and just like all right go ahead you take it we got Jeb Bush waiting for 2016. Go ahead run this sucker for the next four years. This is what we've always said! Right I think it's ridiculous. Two years ago we called this and i think Obama side pretty much at least the smart money over there wants to do the same thing but they can't quite back out as easy right dummy he's had to be caught with a twelve-year-old or something just before the election to lose so it was his point well who romney or obama about that i don't know how many times ronnie is not even in them game anymore he's done i mean this is just the icing on the cake he was already done but they will win out john we still have what forty five days and uh... with this isn't just from a you know the corridor consulting group for mature production standpoint from a story arc standpoint we cannot

52:37 we will lose out on viewership if we don't have more controversy in the next six weeks. We have to have something, so this cannot end now it is too soon. Well okay here's the thing... Okay we know what's gonna happen because we've kind of deconstructed it early on and we have to assume that script is going to stay put That doesn't mean that there are still people in the Republican Party who would like Romney to win They're not necessarily on board with this idea that he shouldn't win. And the same thing happens on Obama's side, I mean let's face it the Hillary camp does not want Obama to win because she's going to weaken her chances in 2016

53:20 So there, you know so this activity is taking place on both sides of the election. Pro and con on both sides but yeah there has to be a lot of good stuff in fact some it'll be pretty interesting. Yeah we have that something really really awesome though we gotta have like Well, that's it's gonna have this desperation time so you have to assume they're gonna be throwing hail Mary's left and right Yeah. Yeah cool I'm looking forward to it It's gonna be great. I love just was weak this was weak and the fact that But like Soledad would get on it as some sort of an important thing or anybody for them matter and Fox are all over This is like they're trying to defend the guy. Yeah, this is weak its week who cares? Well what I find funny is you see MSNBC

54:08 You literally see the hosts with glee. It's Christmas, they're so happy and Al Sharpton is so happy that even they must realize they can't be this happy for the next five six weeks we've got to have more otherwise their show is over! We're all going to be watching something else So I'm just waiting with bated breath anticipating the next grooviness that will come along in this grand show Yeah, no I agree. There will be some good stuff and it'll be all that every show we do We'll have something cool in it meanwhile there is some some real information slipping out I think this was even on CNN now Let's move to Cairo where life is getting back to normal after days of anti-american protests But it's getting back to normal because we have a Romney video So no worries as no protest here Now what turns out not all of those protesters were there? Because their anger with the US and then anti Muslim future video many

55:05 turns out we're being paid to protest that news comes from egypt's prime minister paying people to protest is fairly common in egypt oh really gee cnn that's news it's barely common just so you know this is very very very common this my goodness no he told me something new there yeah exactly so I uh let's see I have the clip of the week by the way, but i'm not gonna play it yet. Uh well all right Well, but I do have The idiotic clip if we want to change subjects. I got a good segue clip Okay All right Which is the idiotic clip of the day Are you ready? Yeah What kind of message does that send to our child? I don't want Our kid To feel that to see him or her get hurt like that That would just kill me

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1:18:57 Let me see what I've got here. First of all, something that's kind of gone a little bit snowed under by all the really important news of Kate's boobs and Romney's secret video is the Inspector General of the Department of Justice in United States came back with their report on Fast and Furious, and you've barely seen any news on this as far as I know. I caught one report on CNN. Well it's the closest thing so far to a definitive account of the investigation that everybody agrees was a terrible idea allowing firearms to slip south of the border to try to catch the cartels

1:19:39 that were doing the gun running in mexico the justice department's inspector general said operation fast and furious involved a series of misguided strategies tactics errors in judgment and management failures that permeated eighty f headquarters all the way to the justice department and a near total disregard for public safety. Congressional investigators had suggested there'd been a cover-up in the Justice Department, but the report said federal officials actually ignored red flags failed to ask questions failed to send information up the chain of command. The report referred 14 people for possible disciplinary action but it did not recommend anyone for criminal prosecution and almost within the hour that the report was released two of the highest ranking individuals

1:20:24 whose names came up in the report were out i love this by the way this is such a great way to do it is like if you're responsible for the death of hundreds of mexican citizens and at least one united states border patrol agent uh... just resign or retire There's no distance, you're not going to get in any trouble if you work in the government. Right and you can retire with full benefits! Yeah just retire and your all good criminal division turned in his resignation it was accepted by Attorney General Eric Holder. Now listen to what holder did, listen to holder's statement. Holder also put out a statement of his own Wolfstang in part unfortunate that some were so quick to make baseless accusations before they possess the facts about these operations accusations that turned out to be without foundation and have caused a great deal

1:21:22 i know it's crazy unnecessary harm confusion he says he hopes today's report acts as a reminder of the dangers of adopting as fact unsubstantiated conclusions so he said so uh... one guy retires one guy quits and then holder says Nothing happened here! Nothing was true. Nothing to see here... Yeah, I think we have that jingle somewhere but it's just like wow how does he even come up with that? What gall It's amazing isn't it? and so of course uh... you know nothing i guess nothing else is going to happen that's it has done the reporters in and uh... i i don't see what they could do another still being held in contempt but then and i can do crap about that either now his group is a worst i have like a joke i have to say that uh... cbc up there in canada they're doing a great job on reporting um... quick report here on the

1:22:26 The 18 year old kid who was charged with trying to set off a weapon of mass destruction, which we used to call a bomb. Now it's a weapon of mass destruction. I love how uh... the cbc reports on how stupid we are down here turning to the united states now where authorities have charged in eighteen-year-old from chicago with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction they say he wrote about she had and killing americans and that he planned to detonate a car bomb neil mcdonald joins us now from washington with what we know all about the operation tonight fifteen

1:23:09 Well, what we know Wendy now is that this was all concocted by the FBI. It's not the first time this has happened they find someone on the internet in this case this man Adel Daoud talking about being a jihadist they contact him with what they call operational terrorists, that is to say FBI agents. They provide them... they dream up a plot, they provide them with the means to do it, they offer to get him involved in detonating a device, even gave him a fake bomb and then when he went to detonate it of course they arrested him as I said this has happened before on several occasions Interestingly enough, on the attacks...the real attacks. The underwear bomber for example in Christmas Day a few years ago and the Times Square bomber those were detected by alert citizens and not the authorities but uh... the authorities remain vigilant that if you talk about doing it down here in you talk-to-talk then they'll walk your walk I'm impressed! I am really impressed with this reporting

1:24:03 Good for them. I'm glad somebody in the world is noting this, besides us. Yeah literally just comes out and says oh the FBI just makes it up and they take some stoner kid and then uh... Just some idiot! Is this guy stupid enough to fall for this bill? Yeah i think he is well then let's do it we got nothing else to do wait a minute let's go to lunch first and then we'll run the scheme on him in this afternoon okay Yeah, well this is a... End of the Dvorak playhouse. Very good! Very good John liked it very much now I was talking to one of our producers who will have to go unnamed and he was telling me that now for every 100 FBI agents they have a lawyer and the lawyers job is basically to make sure that these operational terrorists as you just heard them called they're following all the right rules to set these kids up

1:24:59 and this is really all that they can do. They can't do any more regular investigating because there's too much paperwork, and apparently the bigger the FBI gets that's the irony is that there's just more bureaucracy so if they want to go in you know doing a real investigation... And find a real terror arrestor! Yeah, if they want to go do some real investigative work it's too much paperwork so its easier for them just to find a guy and build the case around him And that's the irony of a bigger government is that you know, the actual criminals get to get away with stuff. Which is I don't know it's perverse but there you go. Yeah well welcome to the 21st century

1:25:42 A couple of memes that we've been tracking. We've been tracking this whole fact check thing and everything is fact checked, and this is not just a meme in America it's going on around the world I see it in Dutch politics and we have fact check, fact check, fact check, where is our facts? This is a fact! We're checking the facts! And Soledad Well I think CNN should promote her. I think she's the only person on CNN who, whether she is right or wrong is irrelevant She's putting on an interesting show and I was pretty much done with CNN but now she has this morning show Have you seen this show in the morning? I think I saw it when it first started. I haven't been watching but I should mention Soledad is an interesting person We both know her! We know Soledad! Yeah we both work for them And she began at NBC

1:26:33 Actually MSNBC before it turned into what it is today. MSNBC was kind of a variety network and then it became the 24-7 Princess Diana's Network, remember those good old days? And then they kicked you over man these guys came aboard but Soledad was put on the fast track She was an anchor host on MSNBC early on. She was put on the fast track to become one of the head people on NBC network along with Brian Williams who is also in that same track and somewhere along the line somebody didn't like her or somebody tested better, because she was part of the multi-culti look which broadcasters are just looking for like nobody's business right? Which is a certain kind

1:27:18 She Italian is she black Mexican? I don't know. No, I think she's black though isn't she no, I don't think so. No, she's a time. It's all it really old boy. Oh, well, I think she's Hispanic I think yeah, that's the look Yeah, it is the perfect look at his the look I totally Natalie Del Conti who's now Natalie Morris name Morris She's got the purse, she is an incredible I mean you have no idea what. I mean she said so herself she says she can go anywhere in the world and they think she's a local Yeah, well you know I would like to remind people that John was the one who scouted her and I then recruited her for Mevio. And we taught her how to talk, we taught her how to walk, we taught her how to dress and then she took all that and then she screwed us and quit!

1:28:15 pretty much what that's how it is show business in a nutshell. That is exactly we put all the effort in and then she got really popular and then she screwed us basically just stabbed us in the back and said, hey I gotta better go over here which was exactly the way you have to assume that happens that's what always tell people say well give me a little coaching on this and then expect you to stab me in the back yeah so that's welcome to do business anyway let me get back to Soledad for second So she has this show in the morning and she does something very interesting. You can just wait for it to happen, every single guest

1:28:55 And it's so funny, these guests fall for it every single time. She's gonna set them up and then she'll whip out a paper and say well I have the proof right here! I've been reading the actual document which is kind of what we do. We read the legislation, we read the documents to say well this is not exactly what the document says. So she has Peter King on. And I think with a lot of these politicians think oh its the breakfast show you know they got around tables going to be... It's gonna be your walk in the park, it's gonna be really easy and she has peter king on uh... these a uh... i'm sure is republican uh... he's a he's again from new york who keeps having these hearings on muslims in the media as well right now you know it is that he said to canada mhm for all of them almost so she had a douche your total douche and she rolls out the fact check thing on him

1:29:44 uh... regarding and president obama's middle eastern tour where in this is very much republican talking point is that he went on his apology to work and i of course by when and read the speed the trend the transcript of the speech that President Obama gave in Egypt and it is very much a mea culpa without saying it but its kind of like hey you know we could have done better. I understand where the talking point is coming from but the way so that brings this and and peter king's reaction to it i was just television history in my book all right you know which i have to speak right here for that was uh... right back in he never once use word apology he never once said on sorry how does that this of course is is the travesty if she saying acted because it used a word i'm sorry in the transcript well

1:30:36 There's many ways to say you're sorry or apologize but okay so she keeps hammering this out. Any logical reading of that speech or the speech he gave in France where he basically said that the United States can be too aggressive talking to the French... That was on April 3rd 2009 right but that's not apology. So you're people... It is I can say, I do consider what you're doing we were apologizing for our positions. We have nothing to apologize for the Muslim world at all! We have not sacrificed our ideals he was overseas criticizing American officials and the CIA and others when he says that we lost our ideals these are the people who kept us safe for eight nine years against Islamic terrorists in Muslim countries. Everyone keeps talking about this apology tour and apologies from the president and I'm trying to find

1:31:20 the words I'm sorry, I apologize in any of those speeches which i have the text of all those speeches in front me. None So I think this is pretty funny. It's so childish that it's funny. I have, look at the, doesn't say I'm sorry there's no apology in here and then she pulls out the final sword. Those speeches at all and if you go to factcheck.org which we check in a lot they'll say the same thing they fact-check this and they say this whole area of apology. I don't care what fact checks are! Okay, the back story on this of course is the Republican meme that

1:31:59 began in 2008 where they say that Obama's constantly apologizing for the United States policies and what he does is, of course he doesn't say I'm so sorry. No what he does is downplay some of the policies and says you know we could have done better this is not the way to do it. There are other ways to say to apologize and you can interpret him in different ways too but it seems that for some reason it really gets the goat of some of the liberals out there and obviously Soledad is like signed on Obama bot. You think? No doubt about it yeah really she is like just irked by this whole thing because the words that

1:31:20 the words I'm sorry, I apologize in any of those speeches which i have the text of all those speeches in front me. None So I think this is pretty funny. It's so childish that it's funny. I have, look at the, doesn't say I'm sorry there's no apology in here and then she pulls out the final sword. Those speeches at all and if you go to factcheck.org which we check in a lot they'll say the same thing they fact-check this and they say this whole area of apology. I don't care what fact checks are! Okay, the back story on this of course is the Republican meme that

1:31:59 began in 2008 where they say that Obama's constantly apologizing for the United States policies and what he does is, of course he doesn't say I'm so sorry. No what he does is downplay some of the policies and says you know we could have done better this is not the way to do it. There are other ways to say to apologize and you can interpret him in different ways too but it seems that for some reason it really gets the goat of some of the liberals out there and obviously Soledad is like signed on Obama bot. You think? No doubt about it yeah really she is like just irked by this whole thing because the words that

1:32:43 How can you be making an apology when you never say I'm sorry? I mean it's not an apology and then she's just hung up on it. She's got this douchebag in front of her, he's gonna argue with her You watch this! Yeah but then the thing is the fact check This is all... we checked factcheck.org People when you say the word fact... Why don't you say We've gone to Snopes Exactly what I am saying The minute you say factcheck.org or politifact.org, then all of a sudden in people's brains I've watched this happen! People say well yeah then it's got to be true because there is fact in the name... In fact we should be called FactNoAgenda.com if we call ourselves The Facts No Agenda Show people will believe us that much more

1:33:32 There is something going on with this whole fact check meme that has people, oh well you know fact check. Well a fact check it was fact checked. You have to remember that about over a year ago in fact Buzzkill Jr pointed this out once he says there was amongst the millennials there was kind of a linguistic usage where you'd say something to somebody and then at the end of the sentence you'd say the word fact. Right So you know, yeah I went to the ballgame and the police beat up a person. Fact! Well this is very much...and we've discussed this on the show before in Silicon Valley This is without fail and I watched some of the Disrupt Conference And Zuck does it. Zuck zuck zuck zuck! And here's how it goes well when were doing streaming with course so we have a much greater share of the audience right?

1:34:27 It's by adding that word right at the end and they all do it, right? And it's the question mark. And all I want is just for once for someone to go No, I don't think you're right. I Don't see how that's right or why do you think it's right and That is the same thing as saying facts, right? Right. Yeah exact How often have you heard them say this? It's annoying, right? It is very annoying. So noagendafactright.com maybe we need that. Alright on to my favorite new meme this is the green on blue attacks

1:35:05 which now has a new name and we've got to track this. This report... Good, because the old name wasn't working! No the old name wasn't working so we've now changed it to something else Hi there Alex it is a very disturbing trend and its been the deadliest year for insider attacks 51 NATO coalition members have died this year alone from these insider attacks that's up from 35 in all of 2011 And before that 2007 and 2008 there was a grand total coalition soldiers who died from these insider attacks. This one today occurred in Zabal province in southern Afghanistan and it seems from local officials that they may have been duped by the police, the police were at a security checkpoint according to one Afghan official they said that they were under attack and called for help from these American service members when they came some

1:35:55 At least one turned his weapon on the American service members and killed four of them wounding at least two others. According to the Taliban, of course they're taking the claim responsibility for the attack They say it's to avenge this anti-Islamic movie that has caused outrage in the muslim world but they will always try to claim responsibility for any nato coalition deaths in the country should also mention two other nato service members were killed yesterday and helmand province they were british soldiers by the same kind of insider attack again uh... it was just tell this woman drink less coffee for god's sake she was trying to rush a bit there wasn't she trying get everything into her report yeah, the insider attacks

1:36:37 I mean, someone on the chat room is saying... What is the chat room here saying? Green on blue attacks Joyce Riley's line will you ever give credit. Now what the hell does that mean? I don't know what that is anyway so it's not green on blue anymore its insider attacks and I'm not sure why it's been well besides the fact that you know green on blue wasn't catching on but insider attacks I think it's going to be used for something else there's a reason for this There's a reason and in CNN, they got one of these insiders and they interviewed him. He has the term green on blue They use that when a supposed ally or friend of NATO forces for some reason kills troops training him You're about to see and hear the voice of man who says he killed Americans He says he went on patrol with US troops took his gun and shot them So they interviewed this guy? And didn't turn him over to authorities

1:37:34 Really? Yes! This is ridiculous. Yeah, you want to hear the reports like 40 seconds. I wanna hear this guy even though I believe this is probably bull crap but... Of course it's bull crap. ...asked him simply why he did it Why'd you do it? In a Taliban controlled village Is a man who claims to be responsible for green on blue attack With his face covered to hide his identity He pulls out his police uniform Something he hasn't worn since the attack On the 2nd of October 2009 On patrol with US forces in Wadak province in central Afghanistan, this father of two says he waited for an opportunity to launch his premeditated attack. The Americans went inside the nearby school for a break he explains They took off their body armor and put their weapons down At that moment I thought it was the right time so I took my gun and shot them See first of all I don't believe this

1:38:31 I've been in Iraq, not Afghanistan but you are not taking your body armor off anywhere and especially if you're not inside the camp. You're inside some kind of school. Yeah it's also inconvenient! It is not very convenient. I'm trying to understand...I think its very obvious people are like you're in my country get the F out So I understand why this is happening, but it's weird. This has got to be used for something that keep amping it up we've got a better slogan now insider attacks so this is going to come... We're going to know what this is about sooner than later but right now it's a mystery why this continues to happen? Why they allow it to happen and why you know this reporting continues the way it has? It's in The Red Book yeah good uh I got a couple of things a little different

1:39:22 In fact, I have a... well actually we have some really discrepant clips here but let's get the one that is a little lighter. Play this one will be interesting to you play Yosemite 1 Oh, let me guess. It's about my favorite camp! Yosemite has become an international treasure with nearly 4 million visitors annually 20% of them international tourists We saw a black bear but no mice But this summer mice posed the greatest risk after an outbreak of rare rodent-borne disease hantavirus left three people dead five sickened, and nearly 29 thousand others at risk of exposure according to the National Park Service. We have protected them good! This is believed to be the site of most of the infections Curry Village and its cluster a 504 tent cabins in Yosemite's lower valley Hey wait a minute I thought it was rats and not mice

1:40:15 No, no it's mice. It's mice? Okay. Because they've now... Curry Village! Curry Village! Yeah I know! CURRYYYY!!! It used to be in my family until some boneheads sold it for some trinkets and was actually... Not anymore. So apparently nobody gives a crap. They're mostly international tourists and they had these Germans and all these people And I just thought this was kind of interesting Yosemite clip too. ...warnings prominently posted throughout the park Park traffic and tourism remains robust. Did you know that there was a virus here before you came to Yosemite? Yes, we did. We had heard quite a bit in the news and everything. But these German tourists here celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary are undeterred they say they live through the European swine flu epidemic

1:41:04 And they'll certainly live through this. You have to be careful, yes? You have to wash your hands but I think you do it anyway! Just do not lick the mice that is very simple if you lick the mice you can get the virus is that good?! So this to me and we've been over this there's multiple factions at work here one... We're out of NHK Japan by the way thank you who make the spark plugs these So there's warring factions here. On one side we have the Greens and they want all tourism out, all of it just altogether and I've been to Camp Curry many times, I've had family reunions there, I've been to Yosemite in that entire area and I feel that particularly for the access roads they have

1:41:55 The tourism is out of control. You've got that upscale hotel, what is it? The Walla Walla Wakawana? Awani. The Awani Hotel. Rooms $1,000 a night. Beautiful place! Yeah but its filled with douchebags John It's like a W hotel in the National Park I can't afford to get it we talking about so but you've got that this is this is the whole point. You've got the douchebags there they're always full its a thousand bucks and night and then you have camp curry where you got the log cabins for thirty bucks, no you know it's very obvious that we also have you know this playing out of like you know we gotta get we gonna put hotel there we got rid of the log cabins get rid of the camping ground

1:42:44 So I think it's these two factions. It's the Greens who want everybody out and it's the douchebags who want to have more high-class luxury crap because they're just full, they need more rooms essentially. That's what I think and what's the best way is... I think that theory as valid as anything yeah I mean it sounds right to me They keep propagating In fact claim it was the douchebag versions of the tents in village have the two walls where they were mice were hiding out between the wall and it's upscale douchebag version of scale tense which i think is forty dollars a night

1:43:24 whatever. So a couple of things, now here's what I want you to try to tell me what's going on here McCain goes in front of a bunch people New Hampshire and he brings with him some dipshit senator female Senator from New Hampshire and they go after the Joint Chiefs of Staff Oh really? In a big way. Play the McCain, uh, goes after Mullen clip. But most importantly as soon as he left, he leaked to the media that's what he has done. What message do the Iranians get when our senior military leader says that he was in Israel not to tell Israel we're with them.

1:44:07 that we will draw red lines together, that if the Iranians cross those we will do whatever is necessary. But comes back and says well I tried to convince the Israelis not to attack Iran what message did the Iranians get from that? I think it's pretty obvious i've been very disappointed in our uniformed leadership It's very unfortunate because in other ways they've gotten themselves involved in areas that they shouldn't as well. You want to say anything? Yeah, you know so I understand what he is talking about but what your question specifically about this What is trying to accomplish? Oh, well. He just wanted Obama ran because he made a joke about it some time ago Well you know yeah his bris is scheduled for this weekend So he needs to uh he needs to keep the the pro-israel talk going The guy is paid by some influential Israeli lobby all he does is talk about this the whole time play the second part so I get a bigger picture

1:45:10 I would just add to what John said about the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He actually came before the Budget Committee after the first time, Senate Budget Committee, and he did this issue with Iran twice and I gave him a really hard time before our committee about it and I said why did you do that? Why did you publicly basically say what conversations were having with one of our closest allies that actually would empower Iran and he kind of backed off but then he did it again recently. So I have to say that when i see the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff reports to the President of The United States, so when he does that, hes not doing that unilaterally this is obviously the policy of the administration and thats whats most disappointing

1:45:54 Allies need to know that we are with them and that we can have those conversations, very honest conversations in direct that aren't going to be leaked so that we're not empowering our enemies like Iran. And I think unfortunately we've seen a repeated pattern of that. So we don't know who the woman is because she's very irritating? No she's Kelly. Just look up the Senate, the senators from New Hampshire and she's the one female one. well so it's very obvious this is the ongoing war when is a rare we declared war on iran and in iraq and i mean isn't like a door enemy or any me any me any me me what what yes yes they declare yes of course we have this is mccain uh... romney yes of course that you listen to this douchebag netanyahu at day attack does something to give him anything reasons for this elicit was trying to get background no i understand your eyes are getting me

1:46:51 they haven't attacked us have they attacked us? They declared war on us. They're brown and they live in the sand this is enough. This is enough! The Brown live in the sand then control oil, that's enough bomb them and RT is jumping on this bandwagon and listen very carefully because this is what Netanyahu says as well about how far Iran is from a nuclear weapon. Britain's one of 25 countries taking part in the 12-day exercise in the Strait of Hormuz, in the largest war games ever undertaken... Now this by the way it propaganda you have to understand RT is making it sound like that British Armada I think they have five ships

1:47:38 What really does the UK have? 25 countries, yeah some guys sent like you know their cigar boats. Some guys sent like they're dinghy You know is this is war games sure in the region now This comes as fears grow that Israel it's preparing to launch a preemptive strike against Iran's alleged covert nuclear weapons program now Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has said that Iran's six to seven months away from having ninety percent of what it would need to create an atomic bomb. Okay, all right help me understand this Six months away To have 90% Of what it would take to have an atomic bomb that means they've got nothing That's what it says They got nothing It gets six months to be not so you need I think in order to Have the the bomb You'd have to have a hundred percent

1:48:32 They have no... Six months from 90%. Why are people just going, oh boy that sounds pretty dangerous? I mean they're giving you the actual numbers. It means nothing! Yes I don't know, it's just annoying. There is something else going on that Israel really has got an itchy trigger finger about and i have no idea what this is but obviously none of this bull crap. Netanyahu has been saying that Iran is very close to a nuclear weapon for 10 years

1:49:07 this is not new it's just you know now with uh... with romney in the game and his buddy ronnie that they had to be shared a cubicle together at uh... boston consulting group mean these guys are go away way back um... he's just getting more more attention more ink and i have been very disappointed when we're on his body ronnie doesn't get elected well you know i still think that someone's got some of their sleeve and they've got six weeks to do it and i can't wait to say Here's well here's something do you think ooh, do you think was President Obama ever in the Boy Scouts?

1:49:45 I would doubt it. Isn't this amazing? I'm just loving this report about the Boy Scouts, you know and... Do you understand how huge this is really about the Boy Scout and how underreported this is going to be? Well I'm sure it's gonna be under reported because everybody in their system has been a boy scout. It's actually pretty large operation, I'm surprised there's not more of this going on just based on the numbers. Well we don't even know actually what's going on but you know we're just getting a little tip of the reporting

1:50:39 The pedo bear man. This thing is just so out of control. You know I was in the Boy Scouts, you go out and camp in the woods it's just about it did you get any merit badges? yes I did. for what? knot tying one thing yeah, yeah I was a... what i find disappointing is that I got a merit badge for not tying which everybody does I can't tie knots anymore oh really? I wonder..I think it's a skill like kind of like spreadsheets now I can do it and I was the sea scout and I can tie... the sea scouts huh? I was the high-end Scouts

1:51:15 You're always on a boat. Well the Sea Scout, in Holland you pretty much have the Sea Scouts because you know you're in the sea so might as well but I can tie...I could do the shank and I can do this slipknot and I can do the slip knot in one-and-a-half seconds. Sounds like dances! Yeah he's doing the shank yeah I can do this you know and but the slipknot I can literally do it one-and-a-half seconds Huh yeah you kept up your skills. Yeah and I can do the uh what's the one if your mast breaks and you have to have a knot in the middle, and then three for the guide line. Broken mast knot? Yes! The broken mast three guide wire knot i'm very good at that one. The sheep shank there you go sheep shank I can do I betcha I can still do those

1:52:02 Meanwhile Richard Branson who I'm now more convinced than ever is nothing, he's no more than a spokesman shill. I don't think the guy has a business bone in his body He's been sent out you know he's a banker now a bankster as Virgin behind that guy and oh huge money You know I feel this same way about him that he's just kind of a yeah, he's a front man Yes But who's the real power behind? It's a bunch of hedge funds and so they bought Northern Rock essentially which now has become Virgin Money. And so he is in America and he is on Bloomberg

1:52:41 and talking, you just gotta listen to this. He's on Bloomberg television which is only meant for one audience which is people who are in the financial sector and Richard Branson is insane. Looks increasingly treacherous you've got investments that really span the globe many many different sectors what your overall feeling about what we are going through about what Europe is going through in Asia right now? I'm always an optimist, but I like to think that amidst all this pessimism that's around there are green shoots now. There's green shoots John! And you know that I just sort of feel like maybe the corner is just beginning to turn and

1:53:29 And with a final push we can start climbing out of the stagnation that we've already got into over the last few years. So you can see lots of Potential icebergs ahead, but I'd like to think that maybe the corners turned. Maybe we can find it We're finally clawing our way out. Potentialized folks? What is this guy sounds like he's a babbling idiot He's insane! He's insane! Green shoots...we're crawling out of the abyss The tipping point-We're just around the corner Don't worry couple of icebergs ahead But we're okay You're INSANE Richard Branson

1:54:14 Insane! And why is he doing this? I mean, he should just do what he always does and jump off a building to launch a product. Repel down... He did that well for years He's insane and he just, I don't know. They've just sent him out maybe they're so worried about the... Well they didn't give a very good briefing on this meeting. And he's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- Hey Branson boy go out there and tell everyone about the green shoots. What is a green shoot? I don't know it was something that the Obama administration used two years ago they were talking about remember and Timothy little Timmy Geithner was talking about green shoots, and Bernank the Bernank the Ben Bernank

1:55:14 Was talking about the green shoots. This was two three years ago these people were using I don't remember it at all The green shoots yeah Yes, we see great We see green shoots in the economy and the guys like living in 19 uh in 2008 Green shoots then he said people are potentialized or something like that. I don't know what you some new age crapola What he was talking about? He's sad! The guy is insane Okay, I got the clip of the day you gotta get it queue it up because you when you play this clip You're gonna have to say oh okay. Okay? I don't know where you got that Dvorak But uh I'll give a clip for the day cuz you're demanding it and it is pretty damn good clip Hillary What is it Hillary Hillary Oh come on? I have the same clip

1:55:58 plant it's almost too delicious to believe my friend that was a talker to her uh... her little lover up there in the You know what they brought her into Washington. Yeah and the woman came into Washington and this too delicious thing was just too much for me, but they brought her in here at to get...and apparently she came here to beg did pull all the sanctions that we have on Burma and she was in there whining she said look I'm here I am can we pull these sanctions? They're killing us!

1:56:35 And Hillary's going, I don't know it's just great that you're here. It's too delicious i say! Almost too delicious to believe my friend. If if... Keep that as a permanent thing. Oh yeah no definitely if you hear someone say that to you run in the other direction. I don't think that's good there's a very very frightening thing to hear from her. I was frightened when I heard it delicious? It is delicious my friend Hey, I think something's heating up with Russia as Russia has basically kicked USAID out of the country. Did you follow this at all?

1:57:17 I heard about it but don't know the background. Well USAID of course is pretty much, well it's a part of the State Department and this what in Egypt and all these countries that where techno experts work and its giving you aid but essentially... It's economic hitman system. Yeah! Its economic hitmen, spies, techno experts and Putin said get out October 1st get out. Just get out! We're sick of you getting out, you're causing trouble and I'm sure they are behind all those little marches Of course they are that's why they have to get out! Yeah, Garry Kasparov Get out! You should kick him out too while their at it Let's get out i am sick and tired of you guys I love it just get out alright enough of yall But we're USAID we need help

1:58:14 I'm trying to see if there's anything else that's really... I got one. Okay good so let, I thought this was interesting you know there's a lot of protests they're setting up Lebanon because Lebanon is on the list right? Yes yes yes Lebanon is one of the Wesley Clark Seven yeah which sounds like a band from the 60s. Dave Clark Five Wes Clark Seven So the Wesley Clark 7 was Lebanon but we haven't found any reason for Lebanon. But listen to this Lebanon Hezbollah suggests Intel clip. The call by the leader of the Hezbollah party that Hassan Nasrallah in a televised speech last night he called for the people of Lebanon to take to the streets, to show the world their anger about this film that they say is insulting

1:59:04 He says that the US intelligence is behind this. He's really been firing up the tensions here and definitely calling for his supporters to come out. The protests will be held in the southern area of Beirut, that's a very big stronghold for the Hizballah party and as we progress it we're going to see more protests across Lebanon So he suggests that US intelligence agencies are behind the phony movie. I think it's possible, but they're doing a better job! Where did that come from? That clip was good. I liked that. Where is it from? That came out of...I think that was CCTV China Very good

1:59:53 And then you can play the second half, which is... I could run either as one or two but it just shows you that Lebanon is falling prey to the scheme. It seems to me and next thing you know all hell's gonna break loose there." Making his first public appearance this year, the influential leader warned that this is only the start The world should know our anger will not be a passing outburst, but the start of a serious movement that will continue at all levels of the Muslim nation to defend the Prophet of God. Hassan Nasrallah called on his supporters to show the world how angry they were. He said, with your faces, your fists and your voices show the world your rage! And we have certainly seen that today as tens of thousands of supporters have taken to the streets in protest. I love the way she's screaming at the top of her lung... She's screaming so i'm now thinking that Nasrallah is actually uh working for us

2:00:56 There's no reason to stir this stuff up like this unless you're trying to, you know cause a problem well there is another angle and this isn't angle that CNN is highlighting and It's it's almost disgusting the way they bring in these experts to say the following Frederica. We're in uncharted territories here now we know that a couple of random individuals with an axe to grind and and you know an Islamophobic sentiments can launch the kind of wave of violence that we've seen in some parts of the Middle East. Now there's no stopping it, I mean you think this is just...this is just the beginning! People now know that they can get Admiral Mike Mullen to actually give you a call and try to tell you not

2:01:40 upload a video on the internet there are many individuals out there who are going to use this to our advantage and we're gonna have to figure out how to deal with this, how to really balance the freedom of speech with uh... you know that the national security interests of the united states. So this is very interesting one because the meme is here we have to balance balance no less freedom of speech with our national security but in light of the clip you played earlier about mccain there is clearly a movement to embarrass uh... admiral uh... and i think that it must be intelligence community versus

2:02:23 the defense community that it seems like that war is back on again between those two and i kind of make sense knowing that google said hey we are not going to send her this video because of course google is the nsa, i mean they have a relationship thats known its documented Of course they don't tell us exactly what's going on. And so that's why Google says, oh we're not gonna censor that because you know we're the spies! We are intelligence! You can't tell us what to do. Well if there... now Dave is this a battle? Because we've talked about this for years and the battle between the Obama administration and CIA and then there's the DIA which is a huge operation and there's the NSA but

2:03:08 Where does the CIA, DIA... I mean we have yet to get to the bottom of this. What is the real beef going on here? The only thing I can think of is it comes down to budget and money. And why is Mullen, I think its got to do with Iran but why has Mullen... It has to do with Iran or otherwise you wouldn't have the Stooge McCain going after Mullen with an unbelievable disingenuous lack of respect Yeah! ...and the guy's a military guy He's the boss of them

2:03:44 No, I'm talking about McCain a military guy. Oh well yeah not so they say he has shows nothing but respect generally Yeah But he chose zero respect for Muller for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Mullen in particular. I don't know any guy I don't know we just haven't figured it out yet, but We're going to we will figure it out. We're going to for sure, but Mullen seems like a very sensible guy Well there you go that's mistake number one Don't be a sensible guy I'll be wrong. No, there's something you said definitely something in missus got somebody with either a contract or something that didn't go through or something Mullen queered a deal on he may have screwed up something that there was gonna make big bucks

2:04:30 bucks for these guys in the east peace troops screwed the pooch i mean you know who knows but i think it's it's it's we can find out which if we just dig around i'm pretty sure that uh... our producers will will be able to point us in the general direction uh... but it's clear they're out on a warpath from all and um... and its uh... it's mccain it said netanyahu uh... you know malin is knowing agassi's obama's guy So it's just, you know... It's sad is what it is. It's just freaking sad So now in Spain all hell's breaking loose there too which is underreported of course here especially. Would this be because the... Our media does not want to show for people who aren't familiar with some of our philosophies, our media does not want to show a lot of riots around the world because it might give us an idea so better left unsaid. I've got this kind of double clip here

2:03:44 No, I'm talking about McCain a military guy. Oh well yeah not so they say he has shows nothing but respect generally Yeah But he chose zero respect for Muller for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Mullen in particular. I don't know any guy I don't know we just haven't figured it out yet, but We're going to we will figure it out. We're going to for sure, but Mullen seems like a very sensible guy Well there you go that's mistake number one Don't be a sensible guy I'll be wrong. No, there's something you said definitely something in missus got somebody with either a contract or something that didn't go through or something Mullen queered a deal on he may have screwed up something that there was gonna make big bucks

2:04:30 bucks for these guys in the east peace troops screwed the pooch i mean you know who knows but i think it's it's it's we can find out which if we just dig around i'm pretty sure that uh... our producers will will be able to point us in the general direction uh... but it's clear they're out on a warpath from all and um... and its uh... it's mccain it said netanyahu uh... you know malin is knowing agassi's obama's guy So it's just, you know... It's sad is what it is. It's just freaking sad So now in Spain all hell's breaking loose there too which is underreported of course here especially. Would this be because the... Our media does not want to show for people who aren't familiar with some of our philosophies, our media does not want to show a lot of riots around the world because it might give us an idea so better left unsaid. I've got this kind of double clip here

2:05:31 Spain wants to privatize the railroads. Sorry, yeah. The rail workers who protested against possible plans to privatise Spain's rail network elsewhere things went quiet Some services were cancelled as those working on the railways went on strike. There's lots of people on the platform and it is complicated, we'll see what the return journey is like I think that strikes fair they want to privatise the rail sector and I don't think that's right Spain has one of the best high-speed rail networks in the world

2:06:10 The unions fear the government plans to sell off the country's rail operator next year. And this, they believe would mean job losses and a rise in fares Over the weekend thousands of public sector workers and others demonstrated against the Spanish government austerity reforms Oh well this is very obvious This is how it all starts Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand Taggart Rail Lines God, I walked into that one. You sure did! That's your own fault man you did that to yourself yeah anyway so the second clip and this is the one that as soon as i heard this part of the report which was pretty long i said oh now there's something it just doesn't make any sense The unions warn of an autumn of protest

2:07:03 But the government here in Madrid shows no sign that it's ready to change its agenda of deep austerity. In fact, towards the end of this month, the economy minister Luis de Guindos will announce yet more economic reforms and they could include plans to privatise the railways Privatising Spain's railways would be a crime for some, but for the government it would provide vital revenue as it tries to balance its budget. A task which is made tougher as the economy here is in recession Tom Burridge BBC News in Madrid Yeah. Okay, well let me just say from a from an economic perspective there is let's say they sell off the railroads they're not gonna get cash no they're gonna get about bunch of accounts receivable for all practical purposes and the promissory notes in stock which is not going to do anything for their budget it's gonna maybe balance some books if you're good bookkeep but it seems to me this is we'll get more revenue when they're not gonna get any revenue from the trains once they sell them as some douchebag why don't they just raise the fare

2:08:07 They want revenue double the price of train tickets. I'll tell you why because in the UK they already figured it out, you privatize and then you raise the fare that's the way to go Yeah, to screw the public and raise fares. And then the government gets no benefit! It's just totally for some corporation, it's a corporatism thing. This is fascism at its base roots Are you confusing Europe's government with an actual body that gives a crap about the people? Please tell me this is not true. I must be dizzy! I go back to when this program started in just before 2008, we're now almost in our fifth year please... Our fifth year coming up October 26th and we hope people would help us out by celebrating with a $51.30 donation. Dvorak.org slash NA

2:08:59 I had just read the Lisbon Treaty and was astounded by the fact that these sovereign nations were going to have a European Parliament with over 700 members who could sit in this Tower of Babel. In fact, the thing looks like the Tower of Babel yet this body cannot bring laws to the floor only the undemocratically chosen Commission can do this! We've always seen this as a takeover and it's a takeover by corporations In fact, I think it's the same corporations who you know BASF and IG Farben. This is all the same thing nothing has changed since World War two except You know you guys got no better television now because we're we're you know We got satellites so you can see our Kardashians Right in the production values have improved much more much more improved So it's the same thing

2:09:52 And I'm reading all the reports now coming out of Europe that really do point to your cycle theory coming to fruition in October, this October in several weeks. What's your feeling? You and Horowitz look at this stuff all the time are you feeling confident it's going to happen because we have either October March or next October Yeah those are the three spots where something bad could happen Well, my thinking currently is that they might be able to stretch it into next year because of the by bringing in more of this quantitative easing. Now it has two effects one it definitely boosts the stock market I mean we're gonna see the Dow Jones hit 14,000 despite the fact that we have no manufacturing everybody's out at work and you know it's just a mess if gas prices are too high I mean there's no reason for this

2:10:45 boom of the stock market. Well yes there is it so the elites can go rob us completely blind before it all crashes and then we're gonna go buy our stuff, grab our houses, grab everything and then then it crashes isn't that system? Yeah that's the way I kind of works whatever the case is they get a market should be boosted and it might get us through October I mean this possibility you have to promise the market is such it's not like really controllable. I mean you can do the quantitative easing thing and pump money in but since they don't, and i've thought about this too because actually thinking may have discussed with the Horowitz on the last DH unplugged that I think right during the show I came up with this I said but the problem is that there you're trying to duplicate what happened in 1850 which should have been a down cycle in the 40 or 80 year cycle that we all like

2:11:43 In 1850 nothing happened and we didn't have a depression until 1857 which would be the equivalent of 2017 in this cycle. And the reason for that was gold, there was 30 trillion dollars in today's money of gold pumped into the economy And that kept the thing at bay. But that's because we found it, that was because of the gold rush and people were digging it out of the ground right? Right and the difference is that it looks the same when you say well quantitative easing was just putting more money into the system which gold was doing at the time. By the way I was blamed for in 1857 when they was deconstructed. In 1857 was a first year that a whole slew of books came out on trying to analyze the depression which now it's very popular to do anyway so

2:12:23 So that all this money went rushing into the system and they're trying to push it into the system now out of forced all the inevitable The difference is and it just dawned on me that the difference back then was the people who got the free money Gold from the ground was the public at large. Yeah, not not banks and more what I'm banks Yeah And now the money's just going into the top, into the banks and we're just saving it. So that's not gonna work to push off the problem unless we give everybody $30,000 or more a pop which I've said before just give free money away the way was done in 1850. I would elect you for president so fast! I mean I'd like you for President of The Fed...I mean he would be my guy. I just want my 30 grand Dvorak hand over say right

2:13:11 exactly and everybody who voted for me would get thirty grand. They're not going to do that! And hookers and blow, come on roll it out! This is gonna fail Well of course because the quantitative easing is buying up mortgage-backed securities which are just a bailout of the banks Exactly Yeah It's a scam Hey wait a minute we're being ripped off All right, so here's how you can make some money. You want my tip? You've given your analysis now here is my tip go out and buy as much silver as you can I'll tell you why JP Morgan has pretty much the market on silver on paper if they would ever have to actually deliver they can't deliver I don't think there's enough silver in the universe for them to deliver

2:14:05 And they are now being investigated. And I think JPMorgan Chase is targeted, for whatever reason, whatever they've done maybe it's just Jamie Dimon as an a-hole and i think that could be enough because everyone he so smug and you know now has kind of gotten in trouble. I think they've been targeted and this is the bank that is going to go down first in the economic collapse, whether it's October or March or next October. And they will not be able to deliver on all their silver futures and if you hold silver... Of course I would say it'd better to hold it physically but maybe there are some... You can answer that John, if they're stocks or mining stocks or ETFs or whatever you're supposed to have. I think silver could easily go to 60 from its 34-35 where is today. What do you think?

2:14:59 I think you have to look at what would happen if they were forced to deal with the silver that they have contracts for. I don't know, I'd have to think about it. Yeah, your theories on precious metals are always pretty accurate for some unknown reason It's not based on expertise! That's for sure A lot of people get one hair up their butt Yeah, which is then to get really good at one thing about like you know still be somebody that really knows the auto industry and when to invest in when they sell there's a couple guys that are just Apple stock guys That's all they do. They right now when to buy when the cell when to buy I want to sell it It's all they care about right and they're good at it

2:15:37 And what is... I trust your judgment after the gold run up. Yeah, well gold is now we're back at 1770-1772. It's somewhere there. It's back and remember I said it was a buying moment of course I had no money to buy anything but at least I said it yeah No that's good somebody did I'm sure. Oh I always love it when our producers you know hand over like a little sliver of gold that's always nice You know and I tuck it away I'm like this is great you know I'll have it. Now we've got our shavings, not savings but shavings. Shavings and anyway okay well we'll keep an eye on this whole thing. Yeah but the silver thing is based on two things i think it was probably Max Kaiser who led me down to understanding that JPMorgan Chase has this huge exposure to silver

2:16:33 And if you just look at what's happening everywhere in the financial press, they're talking about JP Morgan Chase big investigation, big lawsuit. They're setting aside money for the fines they are going to have to pay and I think just combined with the fact that Jamie Dimon he already had that big whale who blew it on some derivatives in London. I think the rest of the banking community just hate him! just are just like this because they're all evil but they hate him so much that we're going to take you down. I think that's what is going on and they will if you get enough of these people, they will and then that silver market will just pop up and it could go to 60 and its cool because you can get in relatively cheap if you have any dough. You know people should watch the movie The International? We've talked about this yeah with BCCI

2:17:23 It's a good movie. Yeah, it's a great movie Anyway I have one last clip if you want to play it It was just kind of a random clip where I picked up and I think this is like gonna be thematic Again this is on the international news broadcast Democracy does not suit Islam There's a lot of anti-Islamic stuff going on around the world And so they're bringing in more and more of this sort of thing too So we're all skeptical It's interesting. An ultra-conservative Muslim group denied any involvement in the assault but said it rejected what it saw as the imposition of democracy in Libya from Benghazi, Wira Davis now reports. Libyans celebrating Martyrs Day as perhaps only they know best with guns

2:18:12 In the city where the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi began, there are reminders everywhere of the huge sacrifices these people made to win their freedom. But there are some here who still refuse to lay down their weapons. Radical Islamist groups like Ansar al-Sharia say that fight for Libya is not over. Ominously they completely reject a western style solution from another and i'm sure that the republican party a local government of cnl and don't believe in the democratic system even those countries who pretend to be able to buy democracy to do with all the different sort of people we want to tell the whole world that the project of democracy what is not possible and it doesn't suit this time you know when i don't understand uh... i think uh... islamist really cool

2:19:07 because when they celebrate something they fire guns all over the place and i think that you know this happens to be in case you didn't know this is uh... constitute we have a constitution week as proclaimed by our president of course we had constitution day earlier this week and citizenship day this is constitution week two thousand twelve and i think we should go out you know it's like hey john happy constitution Why can't we do that? That's so awesome. There are a number of people killed by random bullets like that. So what, anyway there is a belief now and it's the couple of philosophers one of the most famous ones is very popular with kids Zizek who was out of Slovenia very influential communist supposedly he's communist but not really

2:20:06 uh... he any him in his business and enemy philosopher in france it's come out they're fighting with each other about They both consider that the real trend in the world right now is anti-democratic and they both cite Europe as the best example. Yeah! They just don't want democracy at all, they want fascism which by the way has been a trend in Europe since the 20s because it's 1920 and in the early twenties when fascism became popular it was an intellectual movement mostly from the left but it was an intellectual movement and everybody thought it was a great thing because, and it was corporatism is what it amounted to. And we're starting to see that in a worldwide basis. It's...we may be one of the last except for the French. The French and us and I think they probably influenced us on this more than anyone are probably gonna be the last bastions of true democracy if things keep going the way they're going

2:21:06 and we don't want to even admit or face this possibility. So I think the reasons for that, the French of course are actually well versed in democracy uh... the democratic system is kind of a french guy wrote it if you will they are very well known for chopping off the heads of people who aren't leaders and elitists and don't want to follow the democratic system and so they're just, they understand it very well. In America we are of course completely stupid don't understand it anymore but we wrote this you know a couple guys wrote this thing into our constitution which we celebrate this week about guns and so there's nothing worse than having 300 million crazy people with guns! So that's why we're going to keep that around

2:21:56 And I will mention one thing, as JC pointed out, Buzzkill Jr. pointed out he says the one thing about the French is that even though they go very democratic they do swing the other way and Napoleon will crop up and it's always yearning for one of those guys because they go on kick butt! So the French have a kind of dichotomous view of the world at first day They like to democracy in the freedom like this guy who did the cartoons that we talked about earlier but if they get a shot at a Napoleon They'll take it. Yeah, and then there's that. Eh swingers. That was French. Alright John I think we should get out of here

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