Episode 440 · Sunday, 2 September 2012

It Can't Happen Here

A classic dystopian novel provides the lens for deconstructing modern political theater, from empty chairs at the RNC to scripted media narratives and veteran mental health mandates.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 440

About this episode

Sinclair Lewis’s 1933 novel It Can’t Happen Here serves as the backdrop for a deep dive into modern American propaganda as Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the rise of a totalitarian media state. The hosts compare Lewis’s fascist themes to Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged while deconstructing the Clint Eastwood RNC speech and the subsequent media-manufactured Eastwooding meme. From the Republican National Convention to the Democratic National Convention, the episode traces how political theater and scripted narratives are used to manipulate public perception.

Specific media critiques target the HBO series The Newsroom, with Dvorak labeling the Aaron Sorkin production as liberal propaganda designed to rewrite history through deceptive voter fraud statistics. The analysis extends to MSNBC hosts Martin Bashir and Lawrence O’Donnell, who are cited for claiming Mitch McConnell used racial dog whistles regarding the PGA Tour. Further reports cover Suzanne Barr’s resignation from ICE amid sexual harassment allegations, Angela Merkel’s trade mission to an Airbus factory in China, and a new executive order that could enroll 100,000 veterans in a longitudinal mental health study involving the antipsychotic drug Haldol.

Personal moments include Adam Curry celebrating five days of a no-smoking campaign and a debate over the physics of the Hydroxy Booster fuel technology. The hosts perform a knighting ceremony for producers Robert Brock and Eric Bodenstab while acknowledging a bizarre incident where legendary guitarist Roger McGuinn entered the show's chat room. The episode concludes with a skeptical look at NASA and the BBC reportedly erasing original moon landing tapes.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 440 Introduction, Austin and Silicon Valley

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open No Agenda episode 440 from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry reports on his fifth day of a no-smoking campaign, claiming his eyesight has improved. The hosts welcome the "knights" and human resources in the chat room at noagendastream.com.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· gitmo nation· media assassination

00:00 tongue that sticks out of the mouth. I gotta get me some of this! Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Sunday September 2nd 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 440 This is no agenda Fact-checking all the lies I tell you here at the capital of the drone star state. We're in Austin Tejas in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from the same old place in northern Silicon Valley where we refuse to leave no matter how much they pound down the door on John C Dvorak They're finally there huh? Hey Dvorak! We're kicking out get out get out

00:45 Really? Hey, good news. Good news today John. Whoa! Day five of the great Curry household no smoking campaign and my eyesight has restored That's good news for everyone Well it is because You didn't have to go to the doctor or anything I did not No I think But you know what that was then I've never heard of such a thing and nobody else seems to have. What? Yeah, four out of five dentists agree. You sure it wasn't something else going on? No! no...I'm pretty convinced that the smoking in the morning is like a whole machine that i used to kickstart. When? Excuse me? When you said smoking when? In the morning

01:33 In the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air. And I also want to say a healthy good morning to all of the knights out there. Yeah it's nice to have everyone and of course our human resources in the chat room they're all charts up ready to go at noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net. I am halfway through your recommended literature Professor Dvorak that you sent me off on, Thursday. I immediately ordered it right after the show and received it on Friday from the Amazon's not available... Here is what interesting The book It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis Yes Which you recommended Actually you have recommended this before I recall at least a year ago Yeah probably longer Maybe even Not available on the Kindles

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here Book Review

The hosts discuss the 1933 novel It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis. Curry compares the book's themes of a totalitarian fascist state to Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, suggesting Rand may have been influenced by Lewis. Dvorak also recommends Life and Death in Shanghai, a book about the communist takeover of Shanghai.

sinclair lewis· it can't happen here· atlas shrugged· gutenberg press· michael meyer· totalitarianism

02:25 And so I ordered the book and immediately, uh...I find out that it's actually-it is so old written in 1929. No 1933 32 33 right It is actually available on the Gutenberg press guten gutenberg dot org So you can get free Well, why bother? It did that I will say the reason I like The first one like a I'd like a printed book kind of its always nice There's an introduction here by Michael Meyer. I have no idea who he is, but he kind of helps you understand that this was written in the early 30s and it gives a little bit of context to some of the people and some of the way it's written Here's what I'd like to say Even from page 5 But now that I'm halfway through do you know what this book reminds me of? And I'm serious about this No, here we go! I have to tell ya

03:25 And what year did she write that book? Uh, 57 I believe. Oh! And who was one of the most influential authors in the United States? Sinclair Lewis So this is- She basically stole his story okay well that makes sense to me I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you admitted that this is the situation It's very possible That this and I know I wasn't gonna say it for that reason other than thank you very much for giving me This wonderful piece of literature to consume and enjoy Because if you liked Atlas shrugged, I think you will love Sinclair Lewis And it's also it's about a

04:06 Fifth of the side Yeah, at least maybe a six but it's a very quick read you can get that thing down I think what is it? What's the page count like to? 240 no. No, it's more than that. No 300 max. It's no no no no as say I count three its 400 so this 3 now 379 Well, it seems longer than if I read it as I recall. Well, it depends on how big the book is you know this is a pocket this is a paperback so If you made into hardcover it would probably be 300 pages good point right? I like the story though and after your done with that might as well read another book I recommend which is a more temporary book What's that? Life and Death in Shanghai Wait a minute does that have anything to do with us living in totalitarian fascist state

04:58 It actually refers to the changeover. It's when the communists took over Shanghai and it was banned in China What I like about It Can't Happen Here is that it has all kinds of awesome little things in there, like the radio priest who buys his airtime to run without commercials It has the Wesley Mooch character in here. The whole thing, it's got the wives, it's got kind of our protagonist... The whole thing is great! Not a lot of- no good sex I have to say on the sex so far at least unless somethings coming up later. When you have a good story you don't need to throw a bunch of gratuitous sex in. Just go buy a sex book. You can copy a Playboy. Sex doesn't have to be gratuitous. 90% of its gratuitous

05:49 It doesn't contribute to the plot, it doesn't contribute to the action. Give me 10%. Unless it's a sex story! Yeah but give me... I mean come on this is part of life? Sex happens?! Yeah well go make it happen what does that have to do with reading a book!? Because its a fictional story you can just have a little bit of tension in there just to kind of loosen it all up. There's plenty of tension I think a gun to the head has got more tension than sex. Well how about a gun to the head during sex? Well, that there... Now you're talking. You're not talking to the Penn State people now. Either way did you know that you know the Penn State story which really gets to you apparently? Yeah because it was a whole ring of elites that they are now slowly going to uncover and cover up again yes

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Penn State Scandal, Sweet Caroline Song Ban

Dvorak highlights the banning of the song Sweet Caroline at Penn State University following the Jerry Sandusky scandal. He claims the song was originally written about a 12-year-old Caroline Kennedy, making the lyrics "touching me, touching you" inappropriate in the context of the school's recent history.

penn state· sweet caroline· neil diamond· caroline kennedy· sports talk radio

06:32 Did you know that there, I didn't know this of course it's been kind of covered up. They had a theme song for the school and you actually should have to go look at the lyrics. No really? Yeah when the football team came out or when they won or something i don't know when they played but they banned it because somebody finally looked at the lyrics no and it was sweet caroline By what's the name of that guy? Yeah diamond yes, we Care and by the way did you know the back story of that song was written about a 12 year old Caroline Kennedy You're kidding me really. You gotta go look up to lyrics because this is touching you touch these lines

07:14 Touching me touching you hey, baby. Yeah come on sweet let's play it for a moment here. Let's see is it This is a rock version We need the Neil young the Neil Diamond version hold on he didn't feel diamond version by man Sweet Caroline You know I think I had read something about that being it was talked about in a bunch of sports shows But it didn't make mainstream media. Yeah, I think people are maybe tired to the story but I thought it was hilarious So here's what apparently here's one sweet Caroline Kennedy so maybe he sings an alternative version No Maybe that could be I have to see this Dennis Morgan began working with Neil when he ran

08:04 San Francisco office for MCA Universal Music Group Neil appeared regulate the Circle Star Theatre blah blah blah truth be told Okay, so hold on a second skip ad Why does it I mean It was about Radio Caroline How stupid am I? Yeah. Here we go everybody! Hey, Tino Bear! Oh yeah, come on baby. No lonely, because i'm a pen. Yeah, I hear you're slapping in the shower baby. Clap along

08:47 The way he's even singing it is creeping me out now. It is totally creepy! That song is totally creepy Wow, you know I think I had read something but it didn't connect about the sweet Caroline touching me touching you...I forgot that part We gotta get to the chorus of this Get my shoulders rub it baby It's all about context isn't it John? Yeah, well that's the problem. Let me get to the chorus here. Here we go. Touching me, touching me. Thank you sweet Caroline or Bob or Pete whatever your name is. Your child I've never seen so good. Holy crap it's a Tito anthem!

09:42 But it was written about... Taking the show to the top, right? You are amazing John C. Dvorak! I mean this is my turf What are you doing on my beat man? Hey you get off of... You don't listen to sports talk radio Damnit i knew something was wrong Sports Talk Radio Yeah that's where I need to spend my time Wow, so it's been banned Apparently wow so what will the new song be we need to help them with a new song? Yeah there you go yeah We could fill up a whole show with just songs that we that we come up with it for them Wow Okay comedy at the top of the show. That is great I have to say I'm done. I'm good actually Great

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Global Fact-Checking Meme, Netherlands Snap Elections

Curry observes a global trend of media "fact-checking" being used as a political weapon, specifically noting its rise in the Netherlands ahead of the September 12th snap elections. The hosts briefly compare the Dutch coalition system to early American vice-presidential selection processes.

netherlands· snap elections· fact-checking· media bias· coalition government

10:35 So, some interesting things happened here that I've kind of seen spreading globally. And this is the whole idea of he's lying! I'm gonna fact check it! Fact check! He's a fact checker! Lying! Liar! Have you heard this? Have you noticed this meme? Yeah. This is now spreading in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, The Netherlands they have snap elections on September 12th, I believe Yeah, which I think is the same day as the iPhone 5. Which is you know planning is everything boys and And they're doing the same thing that because they have their debates and of course The Netherlands is a coalition country so you where the losers have to work with the winners which is kind of an interesting system

11:23 Well, actually we had some of that in the United States in the early beginnings. In the first 50 years or so Oh really? Was that our system kind of? I think a second place guy would get vice president It was really screwy The second place guy got to be vice president So if you're president your always looking over your shoulder? Yeah, I'm gonna get ya But I'm seeing the same discourse of, you're lying. He's lying! The press going he lied and all I saw as well of course the last time we spoke was it was always at the eve of the closing of the Republican destruction. Yeah, the closing of the Republican National Convention

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Clint Eastwood RNC Speech, Media Reaction and Eastwooding

The hosts analyze Clint Eastwood's ad-libbed speech at the Republican National Convention involving an empty chair representing Barack Obama. They criticize the media for labeling the 82-year-old actor as "senile" or "bumbling" simply because he did not use a teleprompter. They dismiss the term "Eastwooding" as a manufactured media meme.

clint eastwood· republican national convention· mitt romney· eastwooding· teleprompter· barack obama

12:11 And it was just amazing to see how the press, the media or whatever they call themselves. These douchebag liars... They're the liar! Like he's lying his speech was filled with lies we fact-checked everything! Yeah exactly. Oh and poor Clint Eastwood you know the guy goes out I admire that bit. The thing i didn't realize at the time, he ad-libbed the entire comedy act First of all... The whole reason he's there we do understand is because he has a movie out It seems like a really good movie it's about baseball actually here's a little bit of trailer My father was a baseball scout I grew up around men who swore drank and farted Give me your damn check Trust me I can handle it

13:00 It's a comedy, it has Justin Timberlake in it. It looks like a really fun movie so of course this is an excellent opportunity to promote that and I encourage that. What was interesting...I actually saw his speech But when you see the reviews of people who maybe saw it but want to tell other people who didn't see it, who just watch headline news HLN or something. It's like Cookie old guy rambles. Senile, crazy, stumbling and bumbling. Crazy! And they have a term now this is Euro news which I thought would be appropriate because this is how you know the Europeans they have to read their own version of the script so Euronews obviously compromised news organization let's just deconstruct how they are presenting what Clint Eastwood said

13:57 and Motherfuckers crazy with an imaginary Barack Obama at the Republican National Convention and it appears her view is widely shared It appears her view was widely shit appears questions The surprise speaker brought star power to the show as he warmed up the crowd for Mitt Romney's presidential nomination acceptance speech. But, he has now become a surprise internet hit with the president himself joining a host of celebrities and others in poking fun at the Hollywood actor and director

14:50 The 82-year old's cameo appearance seemed to thrill many in the audience, but it has been widely panned on the web even giving rise to a new term Eastwooding. So how do you measure widely on the web? You just say it! You don't have to measure anything. Exactly and this term Eastwooding they just completely made that up like It is a new meme called Eastwooding No its not No one's saying that is dumb. It's not even funny Eastwooding you've been eastwarded. Huh? No one's saying that he's completely ridiculous and I mean we go like this, you know Bob Newhart brought out to do come out of the stage and talks to imaginary people on the phone Oh

15:38 Yeah, so here is the one minute of the speech which had enough I think was two minutes where he did some stand-up shtick just thought was pretty decent And it was funny. He's an 82 year old man doing stand up in front of a big audience and I thought you Can't be ages positive or negative has nothing to do whether he's not Has nothing to do with it. Not a kid. He's not a black rapper Oh, you're gonna go there? Well you have to wait. I'm not ready to go towards all the black white stuff and that's not quite ready for that but here's the one minute that i think deserves listening too which he was completely it was just great this was a great one minute of Clint Eastwood we own this country hello nice they haven't even used your clip of applause

16:37 Here it comes. Yes, we own it and its not you owning it and no politicians owning it Politicians are employees of ours Nice! This is good I'm just gonna come around and beg for votes every few years, it's the same old deal. This by the way sounds exactly like you! Not the accent or anything but this is... You could have written that! This could have been YOU up there! It's like they just come around and beg for votes every couple of years

17:18 Okay, I guess you disagree. I thought he did fine! Well hold on... It's important that you realize that and that you're the best in the world and whether your Democrat or whether you're a Republican or whether you're Libertarian or whatever You're the best And we should not ever forget that and when somebody does not do their job We gotta let them go I love that Doesn't do the job so you know his real slam was against that thing Obama did like a few which seems to be dissipating for some reason I just said the Republicans are not getting on by the way. They did bring up the Just getting by me, but yeah, I caught that I caught But it was no minor they weren't harping on and they didn't harp on the fact that Obama says well You're not as success yourself is because of the government can I just say one thing about just about Clint Eastwood the reason? Here's what's crazy

18:13 The minute someone goes up on stage these days or in front of an audience and does not use a teleprompter, and therefore speaks kind of like you when I speak on the show which sometimes... He didn't even use notes! That- the minute you are not slick and polished in using a teleprompter or even notes You are now a rambling bumbling idiot. This is how crazy programmed we have become by that by the media That's what it is And by the way This is even for, you know, AM radio talk shows. These guys are all reading off notes and they're using the same language over and over again so that they don't stumble and bumble through things but the minute you are speaking from the heart and off-the-cuff and you stutter or maybe say hmmm oh my god he went hmmmm he wasted valuable air time

19:08 Then you're a rambling bumbling idiot. And if you're 82, then your old... Yeah! You are wasting valuable air time which could have filled up with commercials! Anyway, do you have... I can give me the presidential election update and then it looks like you have some clips that would probably fit into this that maybe might be interesting so Ladies and gentlemen i give you the no agenda Campaign updates I'm doing my jingles on the fly here is the Democratic Side that way. I'll do the Republican side first All right now the Democratic side

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Campaign Update, Tax Policy Rhetoric

Curry provides a brief political update on the rhetoric surrounding tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires. He notes the Democratic claim that Republicans intend to lower taxes for the wealthy while raising them for the middle class.

tax breaks· millionaires· billionaires· middle class· political ads

20:06 It's tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires. You didn't build that, bitch! You didn't build that! There's a lot of money! Take all the money! And that is the No Agenda political update. Oh, it was actually a... I'm trying to think where it was. It may have even been from some fictional show but whatever it was, it's not only that the Republicans are going let the rich not get taxed but now apparently they're gonna lower the taxes on their rich and raise the taxes on the middle class! Yeah this is great Where does this come from? Well here's where some of it comes from Some of the fiction out there which I want to get right away which is The Newsroom your favorite show

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

The Newsroom and The Postman Media Critique

Dvorak critiques the HBO series The Newsroom, calling it destructive liberal propaganda that attempts to rewrite history. Curry mentions the film The Postman, specifically noting a scene where the U.S. Postal Service oath is rewritten to include a line about "homeless trash" not stopping the mail.

the newsroom· hbo· the postman· kevin costner· propaganda· us postal service

20:54 Well, hold on a second. It's not my favorite show! Smash is my favorite show The Newsroom is highly irritating... Highly irritating? Bogus show Because it's changing history, its meant to give you the feeling that the news is great for some reason I mean people do get confused by these things By the way, just not to turn this whole show into a shaggy dog story where we just keep going off the track but I did see the movie The Postman Which by the way, and I want to mention to anyone out there recommending films for us Yeah or anything it with some sort of a theme that might be no agenda ish mm-hmm. This is the worst piece of crap I didn't want Discuss whether we should even where there's possible to denied Denied people

21:54 It's borderline in this game. Well, he is not a knight that I remember calling. Hold on a second! It is our job to verify the information that our producers hand us and we can just say hey it was a boring piece of crap movie no need to go watch it. Right. We don't need to delist people for that what are you? MSNBC all of a sudden now? Okay here we go so but there was one funny thing in there they apparently had rewritten the post office oath of allegiance were not for the gloom of night, hail and rain you know this thing I guess. In the newsroom when it Postman? Oh like neither rain nor sleet or snow will keep us from our plight or flight right

22:40 So they have the new one which is quite funny. The oath in the postman? Yeah, the oath in the postman. Neither snow nor rain Nor gloom of night Through bandits' hail Through fire fight Through flood and plague We cannot fail No holdin' this trash Will stop the mail You're all now U.S. postal carriers Hey, did he say no homeless trash will stop the mail? Is that what they said? Yeah. No homeless trash will stop the mail? That's crazy!

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Bio-Terror Alerts, Vaccines Through the Mail

Curry shares an intuition regarding reports of the government testing vaccine delivery through the mail. He questions if this is related to ongoing congressional efforts to restructure the postal service or prepare for bio-terror alerts.

vaccines· usps· bio-terror· congress· mail delivery

23:17 Yeah, I've been thinking about this war on... No homeless. This thing was hilarious! I'm so happy you didn't watch that. I've been thinking about that war on mail that you've been harping on about how Congress is trying to take them down and do you know what? I keep reading about their testing sending vaccines through the mail Because of course, you know we'll have some kind of bio terror alert or whatever and they're doing these tests. Could it have something to do with that somehow? Well I don't know that's a stretch... maybe and i don't know because you know because of course he would.. I don't see it hmmm.... I don't know just this thing is like these intuitions I'm like something may be related maybe related somehow I don't know

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Voter Fraud Statistics, The Newsroom Propaganda Analysis

The hosts deconstruct a segment from The Newsroom regarding voter fraud statistics. Dvorak argues that citing only 86 cases of fraud over five years is a deceptive tactic, as voter fraud is notoriously difficult to prosecute without the very ID laws the show criticizes.

voter fraud· voter id laws· the newsroom· hbo· republican party

24:04 Do we want to talk about the black white thing because this is, I was going to do the newsroom clips. Sorry. Okay so first of all we have this uh first there's it's a kind of weird propaganda where you ridicule somebody and you claim to be on one side but you're really not and it's a very strange mechanism and then you present just not It's not false information, it is just based on a fallacy and I find it to be extremely annoying when I run into it. This is a good example of newsroom voter fraud where the anchor guy who was the head character in the story is giving his little pitch at the end

24:47 Me too. Because voter fraud is such a huge problem that during the five year period under the Bush administration, when 196 million votes were cast the number of cases of voter fraud reached 86. Not eighty six thousand, eighty six Here's what that number looks like as a percentage of votes cast Four one hundred thousandsths of a percent This would be called a solution without a problem but it's not It's just a solution to a different problem Republicans have a hard time getting certain people to vote for them, so life would be a lot easier if certain people just weren't allowed to vote at all. I'm ashamed to say that 32 of the 33 voter ID laws were proposed by Republican legislators and passed by Republican-controlled state houses and signed into law by Republican governors. I am not however ashamed to say that i am a Republican And that brings us to tonight's second story

25:41 All right, so what's your point? So anyway the point is that this is presented. So everyone goes oh yeah That's it It's a bunch of bullcrap because there's only 85 cases This is like yeah There's only 85 cases that could ever be taken to a trial situation as almost impossible That's the reason you need ID in some situations. It's almost impossible to ever do a voter fraud case this is like saying Why do we have jaywalking laws there was only three people in the last five years Years that were arrested for jaywalking in Berkeley, so it can't be a problem Well if you ever been in Berkeley everybody Jay walks all the time But you but still using this is kind of like a very twisted propagandistic technique that I always find extremely annoying and it just really tells you that you're watching something that is

26:28 pure propaganda and then so that now to make that even more you do understand that it's a its an HBO fictional story right this news yeah I know but fiction yep well that's where you get your guess how you get your information through because everything all this information here supposed to be true right yes of course is fact So now play news. Now this is the one, this is a kind of the rundown room where everybody in most news organizations they all get together you know the editors typically or the section editors whoever they are They get together in a room and start banding about kinda important stuff Yeah that we're gonna put into show in the run down And so there's a time sequence problem with this particular show They mix old five year old stories that are supposed to be happening today

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Media Mind Control, Sex and the City Distraction

Dvorak analyzes a scene in The Newsroom where serious topics like London austerity riots and Mitch McConnell are rapidly followed by a discussion of Sex and the City. He argues this is a sophisticated propaganda technique designed to make the brain more receptive to messaging by pivoting to familiar pop culture.

mind control· sex and the city· austerity riots· mitch mcconnell· propaganda techniques

27:17 Are you trying to point out that this is mind control? Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, exactly. Okay alright Austerity riots in London and the FAA shutdown. Mitch McConnell said the debt deal was a hostage worth taking. As of about 10 minutes ago, the Dow's down below 12,000. There is new investigation into why the Interior Department hasn't collected billions in oil royalties. Robert Bork is not a Romney advisor We'll get this all sorted out but let me ask Is anybody here an expert on sex in the city? The TV show or just The TV show. Mother Moses! Listen, she goes out of her way to take an interest in my interests and I want to do the same...and she loves it! I know what she loves! I need a crash course Yeah uh-uhh..of course i saw this episode And I had my thoughts about it, loved hearing yours

28:02 Did you have any thoughts about the sequence? Well, I wasn't...I mean, I didn't watch the whole episode. Because it's almost impossible to watch this show but I did yeah and i got the biggest kick out of the austerity riots in London let's talk about that because they never did and then there was Judge Bork who I think was 90 or something he is like advising Romney It's like this is a callback slam item that you would only use for, I don't know old voters. I'm not absolutely sure who would remember Judge Bork but okay there's that and then you know they're not paying their royalties and they're not getting...I mean every one of these items was part of is..not to harp on this but it was all liberal agenda stuff! I mean i find the show extremely destructive

28:48 Okay, all right. That's all I get to say yeah, I mean Yes is just so what do you want to warn people should they watch the postman instead instead of television at all that's what you're trying to say okay? It can't happen here Yeah Hold on, where's my... Even though my eyesight is improved I still can't find certain things that i'm looking for. Can't see anything My eyesight is so great now I can't see Umm.. I was gonna play turn off your television but I don't know where that jingle went This just pisses me off Someone you know someone has been touching my- What? My plank What?! Someone has been touching my board

29:33 Why can't I find the way that last clip did you notice how they use that there's the subtle ringing a ringing ringing? Sound yeah, which is get your attention because every time you hear that you just you kind of your whole system kind of Tenses up and you're very receptive to probably well. I think then something very interesting. We should go back to doing that when we do our donation segment. The telephone ringing? What I found very interesting is, so they throw this entire like in 10 seconds all these things are all messed up messed up messed up and then they hit you with sex in the city your mind goes oh yeah of course I know what's going on with sex in the city I can explain that immediately! So I think that where all of

30:13 propaganda flows into your brain. Usually they do it the other way around, is they set you up with something and then they gently shove it in I think this... No, I think this is better! I think it's much better and that's what when I heard this when I saw it because I watched the episode I was like wow that's pretty good we should try to do that ourselves We should. Yeah, now they think I'm somebody didn't say hey sexy just look it up in the Wikipedia you bonehead So no something else happened that of course we've been talking about for months that this would be a big part of the campaign and this is the use of race and

30:54 and what people are now calling code words. We've been tracking this, and it's really gotten out of hand. And it seems that now MSNBC has decided to become an opinion channel instead of a news channel which is okay because everyone's on the same page. The only people who are trying to do news is CNN. And of course they suck! No one's watching because it's not interesting to the hypnotized populace But what happened during the, and I didn't watch it. I've only looked at certain clips and was flipping back and forth to see what MSNBC was doing. I think that this exchange between Martin Bashir on MSNBC and what's his name? O'Donnell Chris O'Donnell? Yeah is it Chris Lawrence Lawrence Pete Larry Larry O'Donnell

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Racial Code Words, MSNBC Analysis of Mitch McConnell

The hosts critique MSNBC's Martin Bashir and Lawrence O'Donnell for claiming Mitch McConnell used a racial "dog whistle" by mentioning the PGA Tour. The MSNBC hosts argued that referencing golf was a deliberate attempt to link Barack Obama to Tiger Woods' personal scandals.

msnbc· martin bashir· lawrence o'donnell· mitch mcconnell· tiger woods· pga tour

30:13 propaganda flows into your brain. Usually they do it the other way around, is they set you up with something and then they gently shove it in I think this... No, I think this is better! I think it's much better and that's what when I heard this when I saw it because I watched the episode I was like wow that's pretty good we should try to do that ourselves We should. Yeah, now they think I'm somebody didn't say hey sexy just look it up in the Wikipedia you bonehead So no something else happened that of course we've been talking about for months that this would be a big part of the campaign and this is the use of race and

30:54 and what people are now calling code words. We've been tracking this, and it's really gotten out of hand. And it seems that now MSNBC has decided to become an opinion channel instead of a news channel which is okay because everyone's on the same page. The only people who are trying to do news is CNN. And of course they suck! No one's watching because it's not interesting to the hypnotized populace But what happened during the, and I didn't watch it. I've only looked at certain clips and was flipping back and forth to see what MSNBC was doing. I think that this exchange between Martin Bashir on MSNBC and what's his name? O'Donnell Chris O'Donnell? Yeah is it Chris Lawrence Lawrence Pete Larry Larry O'Donnell

31:48 where he... well just listen to this and then we'll talk about all the other code words that you can no longer use. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's forthcoming oration, can I quote something from you? For four years Barack Obama has been running from the nation's problems He hasn't been working to earn re-election, he's been working to earn a spot on the PGA Tour How about that? Well, we know exactly what he's trying to do there. He is trying to allied Tiger Woods and surely the lifestyle of Tiger Woods with Barack Obama obviously nothing could be further from the truth they find every way they possibly can Lawrence don't you think

32:31 What he's really trying to do is to suggest that the president is not paying attention to the central issues that come with the responsibility has. Is he really, Mitch McConnell really making a connection with Tiger Woods who of course has become infamous for chasing various cocktail waitresses around Las Vegas and so on? Martin, there are many many many rhetorical choices you can make at any point in a speech to make whatever point you want to make. Indeed If he wanted to make the point that you just suggested and I think he does wanna make that point They had a menu of minimum 10 different kinds of images they could have raised And i promise you the speech writers went through rejecting 3 or 4 before they landed on that one That's the one they want for very deliberate reason

33:16 reason that there's these people reach for every single possible racial double entendre they can possibly find. Okay now before we continue with that this is fascinating to me, because we've joked about the president playing golf And we've just, you know because he plays a lot of golf. I think he's played more golf than anybody in that office So to say that he was trying to get a spot on the PGA Tour That is then immediately translated and O'Donnell keeps on going by the way He knows for a fact...He knows for a fact that this is what they were doing We can play that in a moment but I just want to go down the list that I have here Uh..I think Michelle Malkin compiled this list

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Forbidden Words List, Michelle Malkin and Juan Williams

Curry reviews a list compiled by Michelle Malkin of words now deemed "racist" by progressive media, including "angry," "aggressive," "Chicago," and "Constitution." He references Juan Williams' claims that GOP mentions of the Founding Fathers are euphemisms for slave ownership.

michelle malkin· juan williams· racism· code words· constitution· chicago

34:00 of words you cannot use anymore because you will be deemed a racist. Are you ready for this? Hit it okay. I wish I had audio and video of all of these but Not enough time and to find it all so the word angry Now this is of course we heard Toure the hip-hop Aficionado right where the angry means angry black man yes aggressive somehow, yes aggressive black man yeah Chicago Now according to Chris Matthews, you cannot use... Chicago means black man. Yes here it is the Obamas and their core team of astro-turfers pay for play schemers and power brokers hail from the Windy City this is simple geographic facts says Michelle Malkin but in progressive but in progressive of parlor Chris Matthews world there's an insidious dog whistle

34:51 The frothing cable TV host attacked Republicans this week who gave, they had the gall to remind voters of Ruthless Chicago Way. Because Chicago stands for you know wrong side of the tracks. Does? Poor people yeah here it is Matthews says that sends the message this guy's helping the poor people in the bad neighborhoods and screwing us in the burbs What?! Yes He's not helping any poor people whatsoever and everybody knows it I'm just hey look I'm just going down a list Constitution So if you bring up the word constitution, that is also racist. And this is... who's deconstructed this? Juan Williams

35:33 The language of GOP racial politics is heavy on euphemisms that allow the speaker to deny any responsibility for the racial content of his message. References to a lack of respect for the founding fathers and the Constitution also make certain ears perk up by demonizing anyone supposedly threatening core old-fashioned American values like, I don't know slave ownership so you can't talk about founding fathers or constitution because it is racist Experienced is another code word that you can't use. Because, let me see... What? Yeah I'm just reading off the list here. Can't use that word? Nope. Is fried chicken on that list or uh... Well no but you know what is on this- Watermelon maybe? Oh god. Those are the old classics. Food stamp president

36:29 You can't say food stamp president, because it's pithy and shorthanded for racist. Apparently it's only black people on food stamps apparently. uh... you know by the way it's probably not true i'd like to see a run down and that because i don't know what's not true there's more white people on this morning because they have screwed up black people out of food stamps because now if u he did get your most of the black males in this country gone through us but stint in prison once again she can't get food stamps anymore do you know that all year now though this is bogus now listen to the rest of o'connell has been done about that problem with sweaters will blow bomb or anybody else doing about that nothing nothing now this is just about dividing

37:11 dividing the country, dividing us into you know it was red and blue now it's white and black even the president by the way. If we're going to play it that way let's just deconstruct everything from now on I'm gonna be... You can't say hold down the fort this is not racist against Indians rule of thumb is racist against women because the rule of thumb stems from apparently you were allowed to beat your woman as long as the bruise was not bigger than a man's thumb. That's where rule of thumb comes from, did you know this? Yeah I did actually we talked about it on the show before Oh i don't remember that yeah I would have remembered that beyond a shadow of a doubt I wouldn't remember that! You were making... there was actually something like that was your punchline. Yeah well there you go and boring

38:01 Let's listen to everything. Everything anyone says now I'm going to just call them out as being a racist because it is so easy to do in every one of these speeches You really believe that about Mitch McConnell? Look, it is impossible...I know these people are insensitive. I know these speech writers and with these people he keeps saying these people These People That sounds like racism to me! ...sensitive. I know the way they work They do not have the same sensitivity level than other speech writers do but When you get to the Tiger Woods reference, there were people in the city... Did he say Tiger Woods in that thing? I thought you said PGA. No no this is how... Tiger Woods is one guy. Tiger Woods is completely manipulating it. Is Tiger Woods equal to PGA? Is that what he's implying? Yes of course. ...room I know this without a shadow or doubt...

38:48 of a doubt that sounds racist to me John in fact shadow of a doubt sounds well hold on let me let me deconstruct this guy's racist because shadow of a doubt first used in recent popular culture in 1960 into kill a mockingbird Atticus Finch states the law says reasonable doubt but I think a defendants entitled to the shadow of a doubt. Of course he was defending a black man so this is a racist comment And he knows it. He knows it and I, facts! Facts that this guy is racist. We said wait a minute do we really want to go there? Do we really want to go to Tiger Woods and the vote in the room was yes we do and Mitch McConnell agreed to do it Okay so um the president our own president is now also being racist John have you noticed this?! He was in Iowa just yesterday and he rolls out the race card like nobody else has been

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Barack Obama Iowa Speech, Black and White TV Comment

Curry highlights a comment made by Barack Obama in Iowa where he compared the Republican agenda to a "rerun" on "black and white TV." Curry jokingly labels the comment racist. The hosts also discuss the Republican National Committee purchasing promoted hashtags on Twitter to manipulate trending topics.

barack obama· iowa· racism· twitter· promoted hashtags· rnc

39:46 What they offered over those three days was, more often than not an agenda that was better suited for the last century. It was a rerun We've seen it before You might as well have watched it on black and white TV HAHA! AHA! RACIST By the way I think that actually WAS put in there to be racist Okay Mc...Mc...Mc...McLary This is crazy people

40:22 This is crazy and please don't fall for it. I see people falling for this, and did i not say that... You had to mention everybody but you know he was elected by a white majority. Please don't try to make sense! Did you Did we discuss this on the show where I said, yeah, I think we did on Thursday. Where I said did the Republican National Committee, did they buy the hashtag on tweet? On Twitter? The thing? The feeds? The whatever's? I think one of them was promoted. I saw a promotion button next to it. It turns out is true, they actually bought it and so the trending but it was trending now the trending topics that trending hashtags are not really trending their purchased. Trending you don't know if trending his botter not

41:12 I know is every once in a while. I look at the trending thing and then there's something interesting trendy I think we did this on the show recently where I There was something interesting trending that was kind of little sketchy, and it disappeared just instantly of course yeah But but now they're actually saying somebody's watching Yeah well they purchased it so I got a couple things for the Obama speech Oh, the one in Iowa? Yeah. You didn't catch that one though, the pure racist comment! You know that's what social... That's the thing about racism It creeps in without you knowing it I didn't notice when you're right, you got me

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Healthcare Law Claims, 2014 Implementation Date

The hosts question President Obama's claims that the new healthcare law is already "saving lives" and "cutting costs." Dvorak points out that the major provisions of the Affordable Care Act do not go into full effect until 2014, making current claims of success premature.

obamacare· healthcare reform· insurance companies· 2014· barack obama

41:51 You know I think it's racist that you didn't catch the racism well, so you are indirectly of you to point that out Yes, I am. I'm sorry. I won't do it anymore. I have a bunch of clips from this speech This is actually you know this is his warm-up speech You know, it's right after the other convention. He's checking out Dionysus yelling and screaming... We might as well start with the end of it. This is the beta test is what this is? Yes, as we would call it. The beta test. Let me save the end for last. Try this one. Try the Obama speech healthcare a little bit. It's very short and I just wanted to ask you a question. This isn't Ask Adam! Oh really? Well good. That's up to you!

42:34 whether we go back to a health care system that let insurance companies decide who to cover and when, or whether we keep moving forward with the new health care law that's already cutting costs and covering more people and saving lives. Alright, ask Adam. Okay so now this thing is saving lives and covering more people but I thought it didn't even go into play until 2014 how can it be doing anything really? What's your question? Well what's he talking about? Apparently you can have your child on your insurance which I already had I don't think...I do not see how that was a big deal

43:17 That I guess is saving lives. I was just confused because he makes it sound as though this thing isn't in full play and it's not. No, It doesn't really start until 2014. He's a liar! Liar, liar. Ho ho ho that's racist man you can't call a black man a liar So here's the one that really did this is a combination of two clips This one here this one just is just hilarious And you know he was you know Obama Maybe doesn't have much of a backbone, but you have to remember he's taught English as a grad student And so he does this gotta register go play gotta register calm and tell me didn't crack up when you heard this First and foremost I need you to go to Gotta Register calm to make sure that you are registered to vote now. This is gotta registers I'm sorry any English teachers who are in the room business? It's not got two it has gotta

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

GottaRegister.com and GottaVote.com, Dumbing Down Rhetoric

Curry ridicules the Obama campaign's use of the websites "GottaRegister.com" and "GottaVote.com." He argues the use of "gotta" instead of "got to" represents a "dumbing down" of the presidency and questions the linguistic choices made by campaign strategists.

gottaregister.com· gottavote.com· ebonics· barack obama· campaign websites

44:16 G-O-T-T-A register.com Wow! And once you're registered, then you gotta go to GottaVote.com No... It's true Wait, gotta register.com is actually the website? Yeah Who makes this up? Some idiot! And gottavote.com is also a real website Yes But is this run by the Democrats? Yeah Obama Biden Gotta... So but this is uh... Ebonics

44:55 That's that's racist. Don't you just say I know it's racist what I said, but is gotta register Yeah, got a g o t ta is that official English? Got it You gotta you guys to do that as soon as we got some got stuff look at that would be better yeah, I think it's GOT STA gotsta registered up you guys the register calm bro So this brings us to a couple of points about the dumbing down of this office and the dumbing down of Obama. This is crazy! I can't believe that's actually happening

45:32 You gotta believe. It should be GOT. Would someone please register gotstoregistered.com? He doesn't even have this pulse on the people. But he's not really an Ebonics expert. No, but this is not Ebonics! This is how people on the street... you've gots to do that man. There's an S in there It's not G-O-T-T-A, it's G-O-T-S. No it says gotta. Gotta gotta gotta. Not a gotsta! Gotsta gotsta gotsta. I think its from a disco song. This is crazy So play the Money Well and Good so that I can conclude on something here Yes please And soon you'll get a chance to choose a path that will actually lead to a better future But over the next two months The other side will spend more money than we have ever seen On ads

46:26 basically tell you the same thing they told you at the convention. The economy's not doing good and it's Obama's fault! It's not doing well Hold on, hold on stop this whole collection of things that you've got going on here John without a doubt Now wouldn't it be funny if the ads came out and he actually said that Economy not doing good, Obama's fault. It is not doing good you gotta vote! Gottavote.com Miss Mickey is peeing her pants right now because her English I think it outstanding but she always wants me to correct her on things and I even screw this one up You correct me on the good an well but she...it a Dutch thing actually the reason why she does it But she's cracking up that I'm sure she heard the president say incorrectly

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Obama Afghanistan Strategy, Sand Sculpture Metaphor

The hosts discuss Obama's campaign rhetoric regarding the war in Afghanistan and his criticism of Mitt Romney's lack of a plan. They also mock a giant sand sculpture of Obama being built for the Democratic National Convention, calling it a frightening metaphor.

afghanistan· mitt romney· sand sculpture· dnc· iowa

47:25 But it fits with Gasta. You gots to do good, boy! You gots to do well. He still keeps harking back on the 70's disco sound. It's crazy... So here is one that you can get Tell me who won't hear the magic number Obama speech in Iowa mentions Now it's not time to refight the battles of past four years? Now its time to move forward Forward This November, you get to decide the future of this war in Afghanistan. You gots to decide! Governor Romney had nothing to say about Afghanistan last week let alone offer a plan for the 33 thousand troops who will have come home from the war by the end of this month.

48:21 We got to do more Is there more to the clip still I think you got the point of it. Yeah, I just wondering what what was that word? You know again 33 which is our one of our we track What is he implying? I have no idea. This is great, this is great! Yeah, I mean... I thought I had the clincher there with the black and white TV Now here's the final thing that is interesting Okay Is uh.. This Obama finishing his speech by yelling essentially yelling at the audience He has gone berserk This is the exhorting Iowa crowd talk And here what you have to listen for

48:58 He does a very interesting switcheroo on the, we gotta do this. We're gonna do that. Then it goes me! Me! Me! Me! Besides just vote for me it was me I got to do this. It all suddenly becomes about him. It's very interesting because he usually stayed with the groupthink thing and kept it till the end. Do you think he lost or is part of the plan? I really don't know. All I know, this is like I said this is a dry run of what he's gonna be rolling out This is probably the template for all the speeches we'll be hearing and as we clip further along that oh We're gonna be able to do The Two Of Us' Find The Modifications And in so doing and we only got 60 days to do this find the modifications and then we can see what's trending What's truly trending? Insofar which direction they're gonna go because they're going to find a weak spot in the mentality of the public

49:49 They don't have to worry about that with these crowds which are just set up to cheer and scream. It looks like a Betty Boop audience, but anyway... Wait a minute! What is this reference of a Betty Boop audience? It's a reference of a bunch of people clapping like crazy and there all a bunch of animals in the audience You have to explain this reference. People go watch a Betty Boop rent a Betty Boop movie and there's always an audience involved, they're always just going crazy. It's amazing anyway. We've got more young people to send to college! We've got more good teachers to hire, and we've got more good schools to build. We've got more troops we gotta bring home. We've got more veterans we gotta take care of. We've got more doors of opportunity to open to every single American who's willing to work hard and work through them! We've come too far to turn back now!"

50:41 That's why I'm asking for a second term, Iowa. And if you're willing to stand with me and join with me and knock on some doors with me and make some phone calls with me — and if you're willing to vote for me in November we will win Pope County again! We will win Iowa again! We will win this election! We will finish what we started remind the world just why it is that the United States of America is the greatest nation on earth. God bless you and god bless the United States of America

51:19 So the question is, is he the Mexican wrestler with a mask on or is that the other guy? That's a good one. He's like WWE I'm not quite sure which one he is Alright well this has been... That's enough of that Anyway that was my little rundown on Stanley Obama Next week we have to endure The Democrats convention which starts on Tuesday Did you see the sand sculpture they're building of him? The giant sand sculpture No I didn't let me check it out It's frightening! It doesn't even look like him really But the metaphor of a sculpture of Obama being built out of sand is a little freakish. I mean someone should have caught that one Yeah, yeah, you don't understand how they not oh my god? Yeah scary right terrible it doesn't look anything like him It looks like what does it look like it's like a psycho Yeah

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Ron Paul Campaign, Doug Wead on Romney Threats

Doug Wead, a senior advisor to the Ron Paul campaign, claims the campaign declined to attack Mitt Romney in Michigan because Romney threatened to "drop an A-bomb" on Paul's reputation. Curry expresses skepticism, suggesting the threat might have actually been directed at Rand Paul's future career.

ron paul· doug wead· mitt romney· rand paul· michigan primary

52:13 Yeah, people should have to go say it goes. It's a San Obama sand sculpture and then there'll be plenty of images I think it's gotta sand sculpture dot-com got Gots that I'm telling you what Scott's that? It's not how about we said gotta act oh my god This is the worst thing ever no I know I know it's scary right weird We just take it out weird yeah, I think right now So I actually do have like just two things that are ancillary that might be interesting. One is, of course Ron Paul got boned. We know that. This still is balling. Well here's Doug... What are they thinking? What difference does it make? Let me play this clip from Doug Wead senior advisor at WEAD to the Paul campaign we've discussed many times on the show and he's going to explain why

53:13 they, what the strategic mistake was and how the Ron Paul campaign buckled to threats. I definitely agree but do you think that there's been from the campaign side do you feel that there has been any kind of disconnect? Yeah there has been a disconnect and the biggest disconnect was over our inability to and our decision not to attack Mitt Romney going into Michigan That is the basis for all of it and I favored us going after Mitt Romney. The argument against going after Mitt Romney was that he had a tremendous amount of money, and he threatened to drop an A-bomb on us. He threatened to destroy forever the name Ron Paul

54:01 by producing commercials that would, and advertising that would destroy his name and reputation. And... So I found that very interesting that this is being put out there because i don't believe it I don't believe this to be true. Ron Paul has nothing to lose. It sounds dubious He has nothing to lose, he's never buckled under any type of pressure and he is stepping out of politics What were they going to say? Like he eats babies How bad can it really be what can you do on a television commercial unless of course what Doug Wheat is actually saying Is that we're going to destroy Rand Paul's name

54:47 Maybe that's what he meant. But I found it to be very dubious as well and kind of like we call it a Wiedergutmacher in Gitmo Nation Deutschland, like here eat on this because you know it'll taste good and you know that takes away the sourness of whatever pill you've just eaten so I found that to be yeah dubious is the right word. Well there's also the possibility He works for a living as a political advisor. Yeah, he's got ties to big religious money. And it's possible that he was snubbed. Oh no I'm pretty sure this happened. I'm pretty sure he was snubbed early on. By Romney?

55:28 You know after the and so he oh, he tried to bop over you mean somehow yeah And so he decides to drop this little bullcrap bomb to kind of dismerse Romney Make him like a smear artist. That's possible that's possible which no May or may not be but it's like you don't this is nothing. This was uh? This is not kosher, but he did so do you want to hear a you know Peter Schiff He's I guess he said yeah Tomorrow's good depression starts tomorrow. You're shit that guy and you want to hear him I've always admired Do you think he's always right by the way? He's like you know reminds me What's the little short guy that's over at Berkeley as a professor of economics said he was the Labor Secretary under Clinton right Joe

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Peter Schiff Economic Predictions, 2013 Market Collapse

The hosts discuss Peter Schiff's predictions of a looming economic depression. Schiff argues that the Federal Reserve's artificial low interest rates are the only thing preventing a collapse and predicts a major crisis will hit during the next presidential administration, possibly by October 2013.

peter schiff· economic collapse· federal reserve· interest rates· 2013

56:15 Rike said once that He said, he came out to give a speech. When he gives the speech he says yes on June 2nd I predicted that by November there will be a crash of the housing market and in and he has documentation these have it as a clip of himself kind of saying the same he says then this when the key is is that I've been doing this for the last 30 years. You just keep saying it over different scenarios? And then you pull out The Gem and that's Pete that to me is Peter Schiff Did you just blow away the whole secret to our Red Book predictions? Did you just take away my entire strategy? Well, don't play shit we'll see. Possible! Let's go back to Governor Romney His plan is... By the way this English douche Who is he? This blowhard Yeah that guy I don't like him Tax reform Lower tax rates Fewer deductions And long term entitlement reform

57:17 Now isn't that a plan at least which would surely work over the long term if implemented? No, have we gone too far? No, he's talking about reform not cuts. They're committed to increasing Social Security and increasing Medicare that's not reform and they're also saying that nobody over the age of 55 is going to lose a nickel That is impossible! That's gonna bankrupt the country But they are talking about using market forces to reduce the cost of Medicare outlays And reduce the cost long term for Social Security No, but that's not going to work. What is going to reduce the cost is cutting the benefits The government has over promised these are gigantic Ponzi schemes They do not work Meanwhile the only reason the economy hasn't collapsed Is because the interest rates are artificially low Is that true? John, is that true? Well... You can make the argument But I think it's only part of the problem

58:18 But they have to be this low, otherwise there wouldn't have any activity at all. Right but what he's saying is that they are being kept low which is what the Federal Reserve does and if they weren't then the economy would collapse? Is that true? raised with the economy collapse? Is this what the real question is probably. The Fed cannot keep interest rates low indefinitely and when interest rates go up, the party is over and then we're not going to have you know we're not gonna have a choice anymore We are gonna finally deal with these problems or destroy our currency and that's gonna be really economic crisis that will make 2008 look like a walk in the park Give me time frame Peter When does the crunch hit us

59:00 It's going to happen in the next administration. I hope it happens early enough that at least... This is why we need to be in. No one wants this, these next four years! And you say 2013 as your cycle prediction correct? That's the cycle being 2013 but the cycle has actually moved forward about six months and its never right on money. Ideally would take place in October of 2013 Ideally for who? Ideally what? Ideally from... For your investments? Hey, do you have an extra dollar I predicted this. Ideally for what? I can write HTML for food Explain your ideally comment What do you have some investment that i'm unaware of

59:49 Ideally for the cycle of cyclists out there they're all believe your cycle fans not psychos. Yeah exactly okay so but it's been moved up so the possibility exists that the whole thing can collapse this October This October. Yeah, I mean it's possible because the general economic collapse began in 2008 What happens to us we made in 2008 which should have happened in late 2009 so it's up a year Hey what happens is so let's say it happens in October which of course is before the world ends So I'm really good you know where there's a double whammy 2013? I don't care We're all gonna be dead but but yeah, I still have at least two months to go

1:00:35 and people would want to listen to us. More listeners, less alms? Well probably alms would be yeah probably a problem to have. Luckily we have an international audience so we do have some people that are well healed and not everybody I mean it's already pretty bad depending on what real numbers you look at unemployment 20% plus possibly up as high as 25

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Producer Donations, Simon Woodhead and Twit Controversy

Curry reads donation notes from producers, including Robert Rock and Simon Woodhead. Woodhead mentions he was moved to donate after seeing the "unfair treatment" of Adam Curry by Leo Laporte on the TWiT network, which he described as divisive.

donations· leo laporte· twit· simon woodhead· anchorage· alaska

1:01:13 and world unemployment extremely high, especially in Europe. And veteran unemployment through the roof no matter what Obama says is outrageously bad so I mean you know it can't get much worse But in fact it can. And we're all waiting for it because then we can say you correctly predicted it! That will be awesome, alright let's thank our producers man We are late on the producer thankage Yes we are late Wow I'm just looking at the sheet here holy moly Insta Knight We have Insta Knight Robert Rock and Anchorage Alaska Wow that's awesome Came up with $1010.05

1:01:54 And his only comment is ring size 12.5 Well we will take care of that Sir Robert and we'll be knighting you later on, that's awesome! Another upcoming knight is Eric Bodenstab in Lauderdale Minnesota Came with $440. He'll be executive producer for show 440's the exclusive members of the 440 Club It's been 220 shows and time I donate it again keep up the good work for the best podcast in the universe Thank you very nice, and so what is he? What is his number that he oh four fours okay? So he's he's topping up his knighthood great And he's a member of the 440 club. Oh duh hello hello awesome

1:02:36 So I'm surprised he didn't get more of the info. Sorry? Simon Woodhead and Bulleth Wells Pows, I guess UK In the morning you guys long time douchebag moved to donate by the unfair treatment of Adam after twit never seen this show but looked following Adams tweets and found the treatment divisive He was clear and moderate in his views, and is clearly set up by Leo. Love the show, our show! I admire and respect the independent thought and time you guys put into researching facts so others can form their own opinion with some basis. I frequently question the media and get cross that some of the lies were peddled but you guys give me bullets to fire in consequent outbursts. If any other NOAgenda listeners wish to follow me on Twitter,

1:03:24 at switty SWO DY now there's a by the way I'm active the real d'vorah and i'm an adam curry and I need 50 more to get to my next number I would certainly appreciate someone listening I usually wait hearing John trying to pronounce my address yeah well spouse you already you already kind of down your book Well, how do you pronounce that? I don't know. Okay well, I eagerly wait here blah blah blah and if my note isn't too long which it is already i'd love a de-douching with the sciences in karma. De-douching the sciences in karma. And by the way he has a birthday what's he telling us this for his birthday is February 22nd just so you know

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

V-Moda No Agenda Headphones, Studio Gear Review

Curry reviews a pair of custom V-Moda headphones sent by Sir Robert Goshko. The "Knight Edition" headphones feature the No Agenda shield. Curry praises the sound quality and design but wonders if they are intended as reference monitors or consumer listening devices.

v-moda· headphones· studio gear· robert goshko· knight edition

1:04:07 So you can call him up. It could be code! You've been de-douched! Science is in! You've got karma. You over modulated that one. Just on your end, it sounded great here. Can I tell you what's going on though? This is kind of a test... Sir Robert Goshko He sent me a pair of no agenda headphones as well. What do you think? Well, first of all they're phenomenally beautiful it's the what are they again the V Moda so what I'm always worried about is they sound dramatically different from The ones that I was using previously So I have no idea

1:04:59 It just sounds dramatic. It sounds really good, but I wonder if these are meant perhaps more for enhancing iPod iPhone mobile media listening and maybe not necessarily as reference for the actual sound in studio although they say that they're great in studio And it doesn't matter, they are... I think it's gun metal. It looks like the Knight Edition with like the No Agenda shield on it. I mean stunningly beautiful Yeah, this is a nice piece of gear and I'm gonna have to go ditch mine because everyone keeps eyeballing them and know they're going to disappear You mean kids? That's what I mean yes, the kids Yeah you should definitely. I saw Miss Mickey looking at him, I took her right down to the studio and hit him

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Value for Value Donations, Website Design Competition

The hosts acknowledge various donations from Honolulu, Indiana, and Texas. They announce a website design competition hosted by nagradio.com, where the winner receives a year of hosting and significant bandwidth. They also thank artists at noagendaartgenerator.com.

honolulu· hurricane isaac· nagradio.com· bandwidth· web design

1:05:45 Yeah, I know they're dynamite. Anonymous in Honolulu Hawaii 33069. I've been a producer on this slow burner for awhile now with a PayPal account donating and naturally occurring $7 a month to separate accounts of two dollars and five dollars from the older days Wow wow wow! I like the way seven's a prime number since it means it's organic and full of vitamins Even so, I've been looking to donate more in the spirit of the wacky donation amounts lately. A cool number i found is that triple double double nickels on the dime is three hundred thirty six nine. Three hundred and thirty dollars and sixty-nine cents well not exactly but pretty damn close Good enough for government analysis work. If I make a few more of these, I will hopefully make knighthood before the end of the year." And he's in Honolulu. Wait a minute... And he just did simple karma It's the triple double double nickels on the dime swazzle nuff is what it is Yeah You've got karma Little Karma Boost! Thank you so much Anonymous and Honolulu

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CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

New Jersey Pathmark Shooting, Veteran Media Narrative

The hosts analyze the media coverage of a shooting at a Pathmark supermarket in New Jersey involving a 23-year-old former Marine. They criticize the prosecutor and media for immediately emphasizing the shooter's military background and the use of an "AK-47" despite the shooter never being deployed.

pathmark· new jersey· us marine· ak-47· veteran· mass shooting

1:11:09 You can always go out and do something real important, which is sing Sweet Caroline. Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Alright now to something extremely important All that other stuff was not as important because uh..we have been tracking if you've been looking at the show notes Which by the way it's also a part of the entire package that we deliver to you

1:11:45 You can always find the show notes at nashownotes.com, but you can always find the most recent show notes at the episode number .nashownotes.com so 440.nashownotes.com would be the one you're looking for We have been looking out for a trend called in the show notes The War on Vets and we don't mean veterinarians but we mean veterans of the United States Armed Services And it's becoming a little annoying to see this propagating where, now this goes back to the MIAC memo which we discussed on the show. Which came out couple years ago where essentially the lone wolf belligerent terrorists in the United States would be people who like Ron Paul, people who carry around their constitution and veterans returning from foreign war because apparently they're all nuts and they're just going to want to kill you with their killing machine skills

1:12:46 Is that does that sum it up John kind of yeah pretty much okay, so every single mass shooting that we have In some way is related to a veteran Marine except of course It's not entirely true because Colorado was not a vet and the Empire City in New York City was all cops shootin. Yeah plays exactly So now we have New Jersey And not that far from where I used to live for many years my daughter was born at a path mark I don't know why you do that. But at a Pathmark store, which was... You had two supermarkets in New Jersey. You've got King's and you got Pathmark. And Pathmark is just crap! So you know? You really want to be going to Pathmark but they are open in the middle of the night so here it was crazy what went down and how the media is portraying

1:13:43 this so first let's get the story. Former US Marine turned supermarket worker shot dead two colleagues on Friday in New Jersey before killing himself now he was a marine who did not even go anywhere, he was not deployed very young boy 23 years old so literally just a youngin and as far I understand he was not deployed But you have to lead this story off by saying former vet turns supermarket worker kills everybody 23 year old man returned to the grocery store after his shift armed with a handgun and an AK-47 rifle from which he fired at least 16 rounds Police are investigating the motive now again

1:14:29 Again with the AK, so this is... It's getting a little bit annoying how these guns and ammo are being portrayed. And the focus on automatic weapons and of course when you say, I've been corrected apparently in AK-47s you can purchase them that are disabled and they only have single shot but automatic So they're not like machine gun, they don't fire in succession which is easily modified But it's changed from assault rifle, this is a very important change. Assault rifle to AK-47 which is not standard issue of any marine outfit in the American services that I know off Listened to the prosecutor so they roll out the prosecutor not the police chief The prosecutor in New Jersey To do the press conference to talk about this unfortunate horrible occurrence So arrived and entry was made

1:15:26 When entry was made, the two bodies were found of the innocent victims as well as of the shooter. I can confirm that there were 2 weapons that were found One was an AK-47 and there were multiple magazines that were found in the store And then it was also a handgun Now why does he specify an AK-47 but is not... This is new to me because normally they'll say a Glock You know, some kind of... but he just says a handgun. Could be a revolver we don't know if it's an automatic weapon this is the first thing I'm like whoa that's not typical in a press statement. But you're asking why they are very specific about one gun and not the other? Yeah yeah

1:16:08 They're always very specific about... This is getting fishier, but yeah you're right. Not to mention this AK-47 meme Oh it gets better A little out of control Oh it gets better There were no shots that were fired by the police as the incident was over when the shooter shot himself Okay so This is the so there were no shots fired when the shooter shot himself But apparently the guy was already dead when the cops came. So who knows all this? This is all very sketchy, but listen to what's happening here The scene is being processed families being notified the investigation is underway and

1:16:44 And I will release additional information later this afternoon, again as it becomes available and after we've had an opportunity to speak with the victim's family. Any idea of motive at this time? As it relates to motive that is being investigated, as it relates to the background of the shooter that is similarly being investigated. that there is information that's already out there, that he had a military background. I cannot confirm that." But then why do you have to mention it at all? If so now all of a sudden is just a military background He says I can't confirm I can't talk about it but yeah we hear he's got a military background So let's just introduce that into the conversation. His backgrounds how he arrived working in this store

1:17:26 Is all information that I hope it will be provided to you later on after. I can actually confirm it There are two windows blown out in front of the store Can you talk about how those two? I'm not going to talk about any I'm sorry the windows that are shattered by gunfire Yes, it was Now listen carefully Not there we know of right now We've already been talking about police arrived. I'm sorry the government still alive with police arrive We've the gunman was dead when police arrived. We heard the guy who's wearing body armor we hear the policeman the gun was wearing body armor He was wearing body armor I'm not gonna confirm that until later on what does that mean? That means you will confirm it later on or just not confirming it right now, or you can't confirm it I do not believe that they were specifically targeted. I believe everybody in this door wasn't hard

1:18:19 Oh wow! So the guy's dead. He believes? Based on what?! Just on the messaging that he is supposed to hand out about veterans being crazy killers, crazy maniac maniacal trained killers being reintroduced into our society be very afraid and I'm going to tell you veterans that you have to be afraid because that's coming up Now listen, now listen. The two guns that we found... Oh! One was a shot- I mean an AK47? Interesting! Freudian slip! Why does he say shot uh AK 47? This is just a handgun, just a handgun Okay

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

AK-47 Meme, Media Scripting and Mind Control

Curry deconstructs a news interview with a neighbor of the New Jersey shooter, pointing out a moment where the witness appears to repeat a script provided by a producer regarding the "AK-47 as a military weapon." The hosts discuss the history of the Kalashnikov and its use in media narratives.

ak-47· kalashnikov· media scripting· mkultra· m16

1:19:09 So then they, the news and sorry. The opinion cable channels go out and interview the neighbor and it's incredible so now they have of course this is a psychological operation I call it MKUltra but you will hear this dumb kid who probably knows how to spell gotta register dot com Talking you actually stumbles and and and mistakenly reveals that he has been programmed by the producer to talk about the AK-47. He was a very quiet person kept to himself, never left his house

1:19:55 You just never know who's your next door neighbor. We've seen them moving in the beginning of the summer, middle of summer-ish we've seen them moving one day that was the only time I have ever seen him It's not even like it's a regular handgun it's AK47 So he said...it's not a regular hand gun its an ak 47 which has nothing to do with a hand gun but listen closely to where he stumbles That is a military weapon Like you said...you never know what going to happen Did you hear it? Play that again Okay, hold on. You'll love it. Hang on... It's AK-47 as a military weapon Like you said... Never know what's gonna happen Did you catch it? He says like YOU said and then he corrects himself and says like I said He's talking to the producer AK-47 As a military weapon Like you said... Never know what's gonna happen Like I said, you could've bumped into him and pissed him off just like that It lives right next door so thats insane

1:20:59 Like you said, like I said. hiding anything. So people are being mind-controlled and this whole, it's not an American military weapon it is a an Afghanistan... It's the Russian gun, it's the Kalashnikov used to be called I don't know why we used always call it a Kalashnikov and then became called AK 47 because that sounds more westernized? It does it sounds more westernized they've been looking at their page its actually was invented in 1945 as an old gun

1:21:40 Half of them aren't even licensed correctly. They're coming in and they're pouring it I would almost think that they're trying to Smear the gun because it comes in from China from everywhere India's making um, and as it seems Like an American gun company, I don't know if any American maybe there are some but we make the m16 yeah, I like a better gun get that It's bad. What a shitty gun! I've shot the AK-47 in Iraq, and it is funny because you shoot it single shot and it's pretty accurate You put it on automatic and you fire...you miss. You just miss everything. It's like pffftttt. It's impossible to hit anything But here's what here's what is frightening And by the way this is uh..the first time we now have a black veteran going berserk

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Executive Order on Veteran Mental Health, 100,000 Enrollees

The hosts examine a new executive order aimed at improving mental health services for veterans. They express alarm over a provision to enroll 100,000 service members in a "longitudinal mental study" by the end of 2012, characterizing it as a potential "roundup" or "gulag" for veterans labeled as unstable.

executive order· veterans· mental health· ptsd· tbi· gulag

1:22:36 So this was a black guy, not a white guy. And I said hey where's all the black guys? Are they only racial kooks? No no now it's everybody except of course if you're in some other service you don't hear French people doing this British people doing this Australia they're all in Afghanistan and they've been over there They have been in Iraq with us They don't go home and shoot everybody up Now apparently that only happens to Americans Detained killers What comes out The day after this Movie no worse executive order Damn it. Yeah, but this is a frightening urge when you find these things This is a frightening one executive order title of the executive order improving access to mental health services for veterans service members and military families and I would like to read the they're gonna open up gulags

1:23:36 Yes, and so and I you know this is Veterans in America. It should be just move just get out Just get out because they're targeting you And it's not a small number either So I just want to read the the policy statement number one This is from our president since September 11 2001 never before that by the way More than 2 million service members have deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan long deployments and intense combat conditions require optimal support for the emotional and mental health needs of our service members and their families. They should have written it properly, it should be long and repeated yeah and continuous Yeah, long repeated and continuous and unfair deployment No that would that would be wrong

1:24:25 So the need for mental health services will only increase in the coming years as the nation deals with the effects of more than a decade of conflict. This is positioning every returning veteran as a freaking kook, which turns my stomach! Reiterating and expanding upon the commitment outlined in the administration's 2011 report entitled Strengthening Our Military Families, we have an obligation to evaluate our progress and continue to build an integrated network of support capability providing effective mental health services for veterans service members and their families. Our public health approach must encompass the practices of disease prevention... Disease? Disease! It is a disease which can be treated by

1:25:12 drugs, within the health care systems of the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs and in local communities. Our efforts must also focus on both outreach to veterans and their families and the provision of high quality mental health treatment to those in need." Okay so of course I've read this document for you And it's... there is always a fact sheet that has released That what the press reads The Fact Sheet And you can go read that it's in the show notes as well. So what they're doing is they're building up They want to put a whole bunch of further starts off by hey, we got it We got to put more people on these suicide prevention line great Okay so more people can answer more phone calls then we have to have a detection mechanism within communities and

1:25:59 So that is section three, enhanced partnerships between the Department of Veteran Affairs and community providers. Providers so there's going to be a see something say something OK? This is it's not in here but it will be that if you see a veteran doing something weird like talking to himself or weird stare, you know you gotta go. You gotta go say something. Go do going rat on him and here it comes this I'm so angry. Section 5, improved research and development the lack of full understanding of the underlying mechanisms of post-traumatic stress disorder PTSD and other mental health conditions and traumatic brain injury remember we talked about this colonel who was trying to you know take away the stigma of PTSD and TBI but he wants to treat it with drugs this is what this is about

1:26:51 So, in order to improve the coordination of agency research into these conditions and reduce the number of affected men and women through better prevention diagnosis and treatment. The Department of Defense Veterans Affairs Health and Human Services and Education in coordination with the Office of Science Technology Policy will establish a national Research Action Plan." Okay? The Department of Defense and Health and Human Services shall engage in a comprehensive longitudinal mental study with an emphasis on PTSD-TBI. Military & Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force, they will... it's even hard for me to read it. Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative efforts with an aim to enroll at least, you ready John? 100 thousand service members by December 31st 2012

1:27:49 They're going to round them up. A hundred thousand veterans who may be kooky enough to kill! This is... Gulag, a hundred thousand Am I reading this incorrectly? Oh, by the way. This expert panel will consist of the Department of Education Office of Management and Budget Domestic Policy Council The National Security Staff The Office of Science and Technology Policy And of course, the Office of National Drug Policy Control Oh yes! Because we're going to feed drugs to them Veterans Leave You do not want to be in this country They are going to round you up

1:28:40 And I don't think i'm being alarmist about this. Well you know the thing is, the veterans have always provided good guinea pigs for the government they make them take drugs that shouldn't be taken and test viruses or vaccines on them anthrax ones for example so maybe this is just a program to get you know if we're going to kind of institutionalize the process and ground up the 100,000 vets and then drug them with all kinds of different things. A hundred thousand vets before December 12th John that is just... Of this year? This year 2012! That's kind of rapid You think?! If you get a letter in the mail my... I say ignore it do not answer back What!? I said if a vet gets a letter in the mail they want them to come in Yeah yeah, if they want to have a chat No don't! At this address

1:29:33 But this is, now why would they be doing this? So the way I see it and of course I see it conspiratorially. I see it because we've seen the documents vets are going to be a big problem then we have all this you know emphasis on... Of course if you look at the actual people walking around who have uh you know who are walking around in this country there's a lot when you got a lot of veterans! You know that's because we've been at war for 10 years a lot of people are veterans So there's going to be a percentage of people who do things that are veterans. Many have been abused by the military with ridiculous numbers of deployments and drugs, all kinds of drugs they feed them over there so but now we're being made to be afraid of the military and I see it as a plan i see it as a you know... And now it's like we're gonna have community outreach to rat on them

1:30:28 Oh man, he's got the 500 yard stare. I better call somebody gotta take him in 100 thousand by the end of the year this case. Well, I think you made your point i'm looking for a little Analysis from you? I don't have any it just sounds like you may be right It's just like as a roundup Okay, we got to figure out which one or hundred thousand they want to grab I don't know. You caught me so off guard, didn't expect it to go in this direction So i'm flat footed and can't help you Alright Well that saddens me Yeah! I can tell Yeah yeah yeah So to change gears a little bit Please Uhh... I ran into a- there was a uh- I was watching Huckabee For some unknown reason And there's this guy who wrote this book The Amateur Oh This is uhh

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Edward Klein, Hillary Clinton Vice President Rumors

Author Edward Klein discusses a reported lunch between Valerie Jarrett and Hillary Clinton where the possibility of Clinton replacing Joe Biden as Vice President was raised. Clinton reportedly declined to avoid being tied to the Obama record ahead of a potential 2016 presidential run.

edward klein· hillary clinton· valerie jarrett· joe biden· 2016 election

1:31:36 This is another piece of propaganda. Yes, it's a Republican propaganda propaganda yeah But what happened all the French stuff you watch I like that so much better Just say I was watching Anyway, well this Edward Klein seems to be an interesting character even though I don't know about the book. But he has a couple of nice anecdotes and one of them is why Hillary's not the vice president which i thought was good analysis but it's not the most entertaining thing you'll ever hear but I think makes a lot of sense We can play that clip. Let me play it right now You also talked, not in the book because this happened subsequent to the publishing of the book and we'll talk about that in a next segment but you mentioned there was a meeting at The White House Valerie Jarrett Hillary Clinton Not a direct offer but just sort of kicking the tires a little bit about what if Joe Biden stepped aside her being the VP The White House is vehemently denied there ever was such a conversation

1:32:35 Tell us how we can be confident there may have been such a conversation. Well, of course you know I spoke to somebody who spoke to Hillary about it and Hillary relates To this source of mine that this lunch took place very pleasant lunch with Valerie Jarrett Who as we know is one of the three most important people in the White House after the president and the first lady And though it was a policy lunch The subject of Joe Biden came up And although Valerie didn't really offer the job, because that's up to the president of vice-president. She certainly indicated that she wondered what Hillary felt about it and Hillary said flatly that she had absolutely no interest in running on that ticket

1:33:20 for the very simple reason that if it won, then she'd have to run in 2016 and defend the Obama record which I don't think is going to be so great next time around if he wins or if he lost then she would be smeared as a loser. So she decided it was a lose-lose proposition for her and said no thanks. Yeah, my analysis here presuming that the world does not end in 2012 As crackpotty as I like to be, we're probably unfortunately going to have to live through four years of hell. that this is all about the 2016 race which will be Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush in which case the same Frickin families who've been running the show for three generations. We'll be back at it again This is just a blip on the radar and there'll be more ass reaming to have when

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Bill Clinton DNC Speech, 2016 Strategy

Edward Klein reports that Bill Clinton is writing his Democratic National Convention speech in longhand and refusing to share the contents with the Obama campaign. The hosts suggest the Clintons are positioning themselves for 2016 while distancing Hillary from the current administration by sending her to Vladivostok during the convention.

bill clinton· dnc· hillary clinton· vladivostok· 2016 election

1:34:19 they win no matter who wins they win. It's either a Clinton or Bush. Yeah, it's the family that wins well you might as well play the clip of Hillary I put 2015 here which is funnier but there's more about this. Where do you get this stuff? Well you know i wrote a book about hillary several years ago and developed on number of sources close to the hillary group, the inner circle and I've continued as a reporter to keep my contacts with these sources. So they and I talk off-the record virtually every day and I get this information about what Bill is up to and you know why is Hillary not going to be at the convention? I asked that question. Hillary's going to be in Vladivostok Russia

1:35:12 You can't get any further away from the convention than that. Probably not, that's probably about as far away... So I asked why and i was told that number one she wants to be above the fray but more importantly she doesn't want to be associated with this particular campaign because she personally believes privately it may be going down in flames But typically two departments don't get involved politically Department of State and Department of Defense That would be another logical reason that she would not be at the convention and playing a major political role. And she's got her husband there front and center

1:35:51 basically playing the role for her because I think Bill Clinton sees 2012, this year not as the decisive campaign. As far as he's concerned 2016 is a decisive campaign when Hillary will be 69 years old, her last chance to run for president and he's already starting beat those drums for her in 2016. It's too bad he'll be dead before she wins presidency, she'll kill him! That's always a possible kill him for sure. Oh, yeah. Yes you can't yes You can have that baggage Okay So the last little clip in this series is the upcoming and I thought that was kind of interesting then doesn't this is not really great But it's interesting so we keep up with Hillary because she is obviously going to you know clippity-cloppy. Yeah By the way, I really really really hope that happens cuz then you know will have a show oh

1:36:47 Yeah, we have a great show. The upcoming Clinton speech I thought this was kind of interesting too. Clinton is going to speak... I'm sorry back back back. Clinton is going to be the headliner on Tuesday or something and I think it's probably gonna be worth watching because what this guy says You really think so? Yeah. You think it's going to be something really interesting, really worth... I think there will some subtext in this speech that would be worth analyzing. They're all racist! And does he really believe Barack Obama is the better choice to lead the country? The answer to that question is reverse order is no, he does not think he is He, in fact has called Obama an incompetent and amateur among other things that are printable. And I have been told by people inside the Clinton camp that Bill Clinton is furiously writing his speech right now for the convention in longhand. And he's getting these phone calls from the Obama people. What's in your speech? What's in your speech?

1:37:45 And he's furious because he will not tell them. So even President Obama has no idea what Bill Clinton is going to say when he stands up in front of that convention. So Bill Clinton wil be the Clint Eastwood at the Democratic National Convention? That's right, exactly! We won't know?! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha This year, a question for you John which we did in 2008. Will we be doing shows after the presidential debates when they have these two wrestlers teaming off against each other? You mean will it be doing shows? Yeah so like if it's on a special show yeah like specials or are just waiting

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Suzanne Barr Resignation, ICE Sexual Harassment Scandal

Suzanne Barr, the Chief of Staff at Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), has resigned following allegations of sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment. The hosts note the timing of the resignation over Labor Day weekend as a classic move to bury the story.

suzanne barr· ice· sexual harassment· department of homeland security· resignation

1:38:39 The way we did it last cycle... I don't remember. We did something special? What? Well, what we do is we-I don't think were on a two show schedule at the time but we just said oh let's just do a show right now and we did it right after the debates Oh! I remember that yeah we didn't ad libbed show It was like come on kids lets put on a Broadway musical! It was like Mickey Rooney Hey good news good news good news Suzanne Barr You know who she is Of course, you mean Roseanne Bar? No. Huh? No

1:39:17 Suzanne Barr. Oh no, I don't know who she is! Well you should because... She's not the fat comic? No she is the lesbian chief of staff at ICE or we don't know if she's a lesbian. Right right right The one that we've talked about her she's the one that said it's a masher she's a sex pervert yeah well the one who's being allegedly John the one who was being accused of being sexual harassing men and saying horrible things we read the advertevits as she has resigned She's resigned, which is... if you're going to do anything. If you're gonna resign this is the weekend to do it because its Labor Day weekend everyone's off no one gives a crap. Good move! Very smart and she says although of course let me see if I can get the exact quote here

1:40:07 As in saying, you know of course I defend... The accusations are unfounded and without any merit. But i don't want to focus any attention on the Department of Homeland Security at this important time in our history It's a very important time that, no it is very important that we out this evil organization for what is really is. Is just a bunch of crazy people You're going after veterans? You go after these people at the top At the top so yes So she has resigned and feels better for the department

1:40:46 So this of course will go nowhere. We'll never hear anything about it again even though any form of sexual harassment or discrimination Needs to be fought not only when men do it and with course I guess for some reason when its women in our government they get a free pass Yeah, especially the creepier ones yeah But she was right at the top of that list we can't we can say she's anything but creepy that I think we're allowed to We're allowed to have that opinion that she's created She is creepy So I just want to get one last political thing out of the way before I look at some, there's some international things that are going on that are interesting. But I have a little discussion that is kind of unique

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Mark Halperin on Paul Ryan, Media Punditry Critique

Dvorak mocks political pundit Mark Halperin for his analysis of Mitt Romney's vice-presidential pick, Paul Ryan. Dvorak criticizes the "stupid" questions and circular logic often found in mainstream political commentary on shows like Charlie Rose.

mark halperin· paul ryan· charlie rose· newsweek· punditry

1:41:26 with Mark Halperin, the writer on The Charlie Rose Show talking about the pick of Paul Ryan. I want to play this. Really? Yeah you got it. I don't have much patience anymore but i'll listen to it. Well just listen to this whole thing. Who is Mark Halperin and who does he write for what does he do? Newsweek or somebody. He's famous So famous that I don't know him. Well, you can look him up on the Wikipedia. Before he made the pick that Ryan would be a very bad pick politically after the first few days i thought this is working out better than I thought it would and today? Today I think

1:42:01 People have not talked much about is Ryan qualified to be president. One of the reasons I thought it'd be a bad pick is he's a young guy and a younger looking guy that has not been much of the debate if we get to the fall, He does well in his debate and people say that was a smart pick That was a good governing pick a good pick on the right for the right reasons I think it could work out to be a net plus did the Romney team see this as a roll-off the dice? That's a great question That's not a great question! How can this guy stand up here and say something stupid? It's not a great question. Was it a roll of the dice? How is that a great question in any dimension?! You set me up... You got more? No, thats it. Okay. John Cena, Borax, pet peeve of the day I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Birthday Donations, Rain Stick Rituals

Curry and Dvorak process donations from Reno, Nevada, and Grover, Colorado. A farmer in Colorado requests a "rain stick" ritual to combat a record-breaking drought. The hosts also acknowledge a donation from a producer who won a court case.

reno· nevada· rain stick· colorado· birthday· donations

1:42:58 You set me up man. That was good, you got me We have a few people to thank Steve Bottoms, Reno Nevada $118.17 in the morning there's my donation including a swazzle nuff plus 4848 for Crackpot's birthday please give our Constitution some karma and needs of badly thank you Steven Reno Thank you very much You've got karma Thank you appreciate it Kelby Koenig in Grover Colorado self-proclaimed future JCD here why at one hundred fourteen dollars and eleven cents you ask? Why because

1:43:40 $48 is for Adam's upcoming birthday. Best wishes, Adam and 6611 is the same? It kind of came with a different total but okay For a shot from the rain stick, as a farmer we need rain. Alright! You got the rain stick there? I sure do so it's... hold on he says Okay currently were setting records for most dry and hot days which blows make it rain Adam don't hold back I'll start building an arc over the weekend in case if doesn't actually stop also John wear white shoes all the time It's what hip kids are wearing yeah hipsters Thanks keep up with your good work Alright so its double six on the sticks is what it is 6611 here it is

1:44:19 One! You've got to do three, it's the magic number. And...three! That's a good share of things. Alright, good luck in Grover Colorado. Jesse Wilson Hobart Indiana 1-1-1-1-1 Please, Karma please for a speedy payment of a court case I just won so that I can pass it on to the greatest podcast in the universe alright? Alright, good plan. You've got Karma Onward Tracy Pritchard McCormick, South Carolina Please wish longtime donor Bob Crosby a special happy birthday with two shots of the head little girls Shut up slave and if you see something say something karma Wow okay Let's see if we can do it. Oh I'm sorry that was just too much for me let me try it again

1:45:21 You've got karma. I've not donated until now and managed to hit my beautiful fiance in the mouth. In fact, she should be posting a donation today too but mine is for more and she's not expecting me to beat her on this. I win! Yeah it's been a great relationship you guys are great can i get a two-to-the head dedouche and karma

1:45:59 Yeah, of course. Oh sorry! You've been de-douche'd and you thought Carmen. Sorry I'm... Well he's kind of a douchebag. For hitting his fiance in the mouth Yes Joan Audifray in Morgantown West Virginia Motown? Motowwn. Motown. I'm planning on planting a birthday donation next week to honor my son Griffin who turns 14 on September 6th please put him on the birthda They list for next Thursday. Good luck on anyone remembering I didn't know that Adams birthday was also looming I didn't want to look like a cheapskate But also have my Dame hood all budgeted out in order to qualify from her ring before the end of the year So this 100-out nation is split between Adam and Griffin 4848 for Adam 51 52 for Griffin It's good because Griffin never listens to the show so he'll never know that he got shorted

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International Producer Notes, Tokyo and London

Producers from Tokyo, London, and Australia send notes and donations. Sir Mark Dytham in Tokyo mentions his wife's doubts about the moon landing. A London producer discusses the "value for value" model and the high proportion of "genius" content in the show compared to other media.

tokyo· london· mtv· moon landing· value for value· donations

1:46:49 Thanks for making me look schizophrenic as I peruse the aisles of the grocery store and listen to the show. I'm either laughing out loud or arguing with you whilst I shop Yeah, this is how you get picked up? Yeah, yeah You're gonna be in one of the concentration camps if you're walking around like leave it in the car Anyway great work in the best cut podcasting universe and he's she can use a general karma shot. You've got karma And $96 out of the blue from Sir Mark Dython, our architect from Tokyo. He's his partner and he also sent a... Day Mastered, yeah. Day Mastered yes. Sorry not fly you to the moon for your birthday but have a great one nonetheless I'm 48 this year too! Oh that's interesting. Yeah. 48 plus 40 is 96. Totally love Twit but find it amazing people cannot think to question things

1:47:44 My wife Natasha, one of the brightest and most beautiful Russians you'll ever want to meet has major doubts too about the moon landing so I'm planning to send her around to see Leo next time she's in the United States. Is she hot? I think actually I've seen her, yes. And he'll definitely dame her when she does. Awesome. We can't talk about where they are but... No but it is from Sir Mark AND Dame Astrid I guess. Thank you both, Adam Colby Sir Adam Colby to you Menasha Wisconsin my wife's a listener and lost her job Please give her some job hunting karma thank you for putting on the show we'd like to wish happy birthday to Adam Thank You very much here you go here's some job hunting karma 69! 69 dude!

1:48:37 Okay, here we go. Daniel Collins, Gross Pointe Michigan 6969 wanted to support a great show can I get some karma please? You've got karma Mike Nicolichuk in Saskatoon Saskatchewan 6969 donating solely because John nailed my name and my pro Mars rant two weeks ago Thanks very much congrats to Anna for quitting smoking And John I'm working on getting it that thing We talked about if you know what I mean He lives in Paris. Hello hello, hello? Hello? What is the thing though if you know what I mean when you can't talk about this Brian Leslie and Bremerton Washington 6969 anal intruder I'd like to wish my smoking hot Texan wife a happy birthday And so we don't have her on the list put her on the list What's-her-name Brian Lesley's wife Brian Brian Leslie smokin wife Smokin wife hey what happened at the birthday thingy hey oh

1:49:37 What the hell okay something he needs an atlas shrug jingle followed by trains good planes bad Yeah, hold on. We just put Brian Leslie Leslie's smoking hot Texas wife send pictures Uh, what is he? What does he mean? No it's the subtext. Because I get them! Yeah you were talking about send pictures the other day and you were saying to send pictures to me that it would be a good thing if we did this show earlier Send Pictures and then maybe we could uh get this show done earlier too Send Pictures. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand All aboard trains good planes bad Woo woo There ya go

1:50:24 We're not cheap here. Dean Fredrickson, Plainfield Illinois 6969 I'd like to say happy 7th anniversary my loving wife Deb and mother of two little human resources we could use some relationship karma de-douching for her PS Adam and Mickey met our youngest HR at the Hot Pockets meetup in Illinois and she was the youngest attendee thanks for your hours of research and entertainment. I know exactly who she was You've been de-douched You've got karma. And these kids, man... they jump on Ms. Mickey! They love Mickey That must be pleasing Charles George Granby Connecticut 6969 Looking for some swazzling of karma from our smoking hot wife Jessie Who happens to share a birthday with Adam93 It's not Jessie it's Jess Yes okay Jess I would also like to hear some slide whistle and random douchebagging What? Just a random douchebag? DOUCHEBAG! Alright and slide whistle

1:51:27 The best podcast in the universe. Okay, as I move this thing down... Miguel Gonzalves. Gonzalves yeah London 6969 Hi guys! I've been listening for a while and today decided to donate the other day walking back from home three thoughts occurred one i really agree with the value for value model you really offer something entertaining and thoroughly challenging there's more There's little more than I can ask for and I thought it should really contribute to this. Two, I find myself thinking what will happen if they stop doing the show?

1:52:11 And I feel a sense of urgency. I need to do something, so if i want you guys to keep doing the show and the good work... ...I have to donate like everyone else. I have bits that would like to change e.g. our example the crackpot stuff from Adam. Thanks John for bringing this show back down to earth but I'm not in the place of making any demands and I don't want to just do what you think is right and the money will keep coming finally eat the show was 90% crap and 10% genius, and that 10% genius keeps me coming back. Don't get me wrong! Ten percent is insanely high proportion Most shows are 99.9% crap I like this guy's thinking He's right! Shows are 99.9% crap actually most of them are 100% crap Do you hear me doing the mind control stuff? You like it? Yeah i like the bringing its good Anyway he goes on and says

1:53:09 Doesn't even cover the fraction effort for I discovered to show via twit He remembers you are I guess in some way the rest is history. I don't want any he doesn't want any horns bells whistles as they drive me crazy Hey 6969 do that don't do that, but he didn't say no cowbell Oh, he did say Bell. All right. By the way it's okay to censor the messages but when they're actually saying hey you were great on MTV why do you not read that? Is there a reason for that like you just need to erase me from history I mean what are you work for Viacom now? It was part of a longer sentence and i didn't see that it was adding anything to the message and all he said

1:53:56 And decided to investigate why he was involved with my childhood VJ from MTV. How is that? Hey, you know what why don't you go on Wikipedia right now and just erase the whole MTV from my page okay Just go ahead and do that I'm sure that to some... I want to finish this first can i do that later yeah sure 69! 69! Hey, we're not done yet. We got more 69-69. I know, I'm just rolling it up. Gene Turbin in Botany, New South Wales, 69-69. Sizzy in Toronto Ontario, 69-69 Since your old episodes were such good company my recent vacation you've taken to ripping Indians instead of Gitmo poutine hosers

1:54:40 I figure it's time for another donation. Give me an Italian shut up slave and karma. Oh geez I was hardly ready for that hold on a second Italian shut-up slave, okay? You've got karma there you go nail that one just in time And that's in for just 6969 segment All right good Now I got double six on the sticks with Ivan Vucic. So how many do we have? Can't just do them all in one go? Yeah, no there's no no Ivan in Vucica I think in Zagreb, Croatia. Zagreb 66 on the sticks

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Croatia EU Accession, Journalist Training in Germany

A producer in Zagreb, Croatia, discusses the country's upcoming EU accession and austerity measures. Werner Bogula in Hamburg, Germany, explains how he uses the No Agenda show as an example of "uncorrupted journalism" in his training courses for journalists.

croatia· european union· zagreb· germany· journalism· vietnam

1:55:29 threatened Ronin to you or something it's all the way from Gitmo nation checkerboard Croatia. It's an interesting ride OSF flag see interesting right over here from one corrupt government to another overtaxing and even more EU subservient one since lists of austerity in other measures the previous Greek government were very reminiscent of lists of measures done by previous Croatian governments VAT increased for example are we test betting, all in all with joining the EU next year dealing with a Russian pipeline and other things. Croatia and the rest of the Balkans will probably be interesting to watch The rain stick seems to work even remotely we're having some big rains after long period drought with my last name meaning wolf can I have alone wolf rainstick karma? You've got karma That's actually good combo

1:56:18 Yeah, Kevin Seifert in Atascadero California doubles sticks on the nickels. Hey man! Double sticks on the sticks. Got it. That's it. Do you know how many emails I get from people who say it worked? Yeah, I can imagine. It's quite a lot. It's quite a lot. Believe anything. Werner Bogula and bogula as in bogula Hamburg Deutschland 6493 which is the year, month and day of your birthday. I belong to a team of journalist trainers." This is a good one by the way this letter's great! "...I belonged to a team of journalist trainers and we always use The Best Podcast in the Universe on our courses as an example of uncorrupted journalism and for making money on the internet in a post-banner ad world... We use meme bells and slide whistles in our courses to indicate through our students right or wrong answers..." That would be great! He just in class all of sudden like, sorry kid get out

1:57:15 That's great. To hit the gate right and wrong answers the Pavlov way, and it's amazing when after two days the course participants greet us with an in-the morning... Sorry about the read. For my trip to Vietnam with Sir Jan I need some karma for the flight and the course participants there to get it right and so we don't end up like Ling-Ling and Leanne, you have to call Clinton or Clooney to bail us out. Keep up the good work! Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants to... Hot Pichai and he wants It is indeed one of the finer productions we have here on The Best Podcast in the Universe. It's the bird! That makes it work. Link dot me, L-E-E NK dot me M-E Winterville Georgia 6161 Swazzle Sticks. That's right 6161 has yet a new donation known as swazzle sticks

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Hydroxy Booster Debate, Hydrogen Fuel Technology

Curry and Dvorak reignite their debate over the "Hydroxy Booster," a device Curry claims improves gas mileage by injecting hydrogen into an engine's intake. Dvorak remains skeptical, dismissing the technology as "bull crap" and questioning the physics of creating hydrogen on-board.

hydroxy booster· brown's gas· hydrogen· fuel efficiency· arrow classic rock

1:58:25 In a while since I donated and pretty tight not a full-on boner though just to semi please mention my wordpress plugin L e n k dot me so i can write this off wife And i are headed to the drc to pick up our two kiddos in september hopefully how about A chicky chicky chonga in the italian slave girl what's that chicky chicky chonga? I think that she's talking about hot pooch itching As a cheeky cheeky Chuck it's like a chimichanga chukachuka Simon Reid in New York City 60.6 you have a special 60 years young birthday karma for my mom Carol Turned her on to the show couple years ago, and she loves you both she also loves the kids version of that's one hot milf but

1:59:16 But it would be all kinds of wrong to request that one So maybe if we just don't call the request, but I just my finger kind of slipped and hot milk baby. Yeah, just whatever All right an Alamo California 5150 podcast for peace drunk donating for all you do is easy really okay Eliza Alright, Eliezer one of the two Martinez or at least in Martina's these are okay Florence South Carolina 51 5 after don't listen to the Puerto Rico governor a day RNC I went nuts hence the 50 150 Oh bag twice please that soldier That soldier story is total BS vet whisperer my ass

2:00:08 The guy's a pathological liar. He really doesn't care about Puerto Rico His goal is to become a high-ranking cabinet number in the possible Romney presidency his rhetoric back home It's totally different what he says in the US media, please give him a two-day head shut up slave I wish there was a president with the balls to openly say we will never give PR Puerto Rico statehood you always be a u.s.. Colony We don't want to go through the trouble of putting another star on the flag You don't want any of that. What does he want to do the head shut up slave, okay Of course not so this is probably right yeah Very right But yeah The guy also in his story says he kept going back and back and back to see this one vet I just doesn't ring true jaron von are

2:00:57 Uh, okay. Let's try Jeroen. Joren? Van Aar. No. Just don't be a dick! Just do it...Jeroen. Jeroen. There you go. Van Aar. Van Aar. From Schaik. Schaik. Schaik. Schraik. Schaik! Schrike?! No. Tchh. Schaik. Tchhh. Schrike! Close enough. I made you guys a 50 bucks donation. Sorry that's all for now, I'm leaving some Gitmo Nation lowlands again after having slaved for five months and an annual recurrence. I really enjoy your show on Arrow. That's the one that burned to the ground Even if you were going overboard with the tinfoil heads. Glad to have found you and John again on the No Agenda Show, I've got a question whatever happened to the hydro booster? He means the Hydroxy Booster Yeah whatever why didn't you put one on that truck for the hot pot? I wish I could have but i don't know how to make them and you know the listeners of Arrow

2:01:54 The Arrow Classic Rock Show, they put it on for me. So if anyone wants to put one on my truck now here in Texas please I know it works. Sir Andrew Haverson Hey hey hey you can't just dismiss that! I know it works, I've put it on and seen the savings Yeah...Sir Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst Ontario 50 and finally Sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha Wisconsin 50 And thank you very much. Now we also got, we have to mention thank you all the people that came in with 4848 just by name and there is one person that said a lot of people sent notes but there's one I thought would be worth discussing and you can get thanked them John Johnson Jr., Mark Heimerman You're not thanking anybody No! I'm steaming here For what? I'm steaming how your dismissing something We went all through that before, I've dismissed it before as bull crap

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Birthday Acknowledgments, No Agenda Knighting Ceremony

The hosts perform a knighting ceremony for Robert Brock and Eric Bodenstab for their significant financial support. They also acknowledge various birthday wishes for Adam Curry, including a planned producer lunch in Helsinki, Finland.

knighting· robert brock· eric bodenstab· birthday· helsinki

2:02:53 Even though I showed you proof last time? You showed me no proof. Well, you don't believe... No proof whatsoever! It was your- you were dreaming the proof Your proof was that you laid off the gas and drove around a lot better That's the only reason you got any better gas mileage Oh... Why would it be dumping water into the engine to give you better gas mileage? It's not water, its hydrogen Yeah Where does the hydrogen come from? From the hydroxy booster Its Brown's Gas' Hydrogen You create hydrogen right on board And then put that into the intake Let me talk about water. So how do you create hydrogen without using energy to create the hydrogen? Of course you put it onto the alternator! Okay, so let's look at this from a logical perspective You're running on gasoline right and your pumping hydrogen in there to mix up with it

2:03:44 Why at some point when you actually got the thing working and you're going like a bat out of hell, You just kill the gas part of it and run it on hydrogen. I'd love to if I knew how to cut that gas part off, I would love to do that! That would be great! If somebody out there who is an engineer can fix this up we can test for sure So let's thank some people Alright, so lemme just do the list Felix Cornici Of course, sir. Mark Dytham and a master's corny cheat all right the other guys I'm sorry Brian Leslie Steve Bottoms Joan Dodd afraid Werner Bogula John Johnson jr. Mark Heimerman Pat Deary Janus slim Sam Lwang Laurie

2:04:23 Jutila or Hutila and Ghost Love Jewelry. Thank you all very much for wishing me a happy 48th birthday which is tomorrow and was there something you wanted to read specifically? Yeah, Lori she says your birthday's on Monday A couple of producers here in Helsinki will meet for lunch celebrating Adam which is nice, very nice If any of the local producers would like to join in, meet us at Kampppi Barbecue House at noon on Monday. Wait a minute... there's barbecue in Helsinki? Well who knows what that tastes like! For an Austinite that's pretty weird Yeah well it was pretty weird for anyone Can I have the reindeer brisket

2:05:06 Now that would be good. I bet you it's outstanding as well. You Rangers got to be dynamite Reindeer is delicious, and I wish we could get some I wonder if they if they harvest any here in Texas They're gonna need reindeer we can go hunt You've got the Oryx Yeah, I'm getting that set up there the work, but anyway give her a Huntsman karma for setting that of course That's very cool indeed You've got karma. Cool, alright! We got some stuff to do here John we got some knighthoods coming up So wrap it up if you will Uh... Well I want to remind people to go to noagendashow.com and noagenadnation.com dvorak.org slash NA and channel Dvorak dot com slash NA as the- because we do need the support to continue doing this show Yeah

2:05:55 It's your birthday, birthday! Tomorrow that is. I'm so glad you're here And more people are celebrating Brian Leslie smoking hot Texas wife celebrates congratulations to you some pictures Tracy Pritchard congratulates Bob Crosby Charles George says happy birthday to his wife who celebrates with me tomorrow her name is Jess and Simon Reed's mom Carol turns 60 Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at the New York Jesus show Hey now! And two knighthoods, John. Which of course we discuss at the top of the show so you can just grab your... You got it? Yeah, I guess you do. Robert Brock! Bodenstab! Step forward please gentlemen both of you have donated to The No Agenda Show

2:06:44 Show the best podcast in the universe any amount of $1,000 or more even we highly appreciate that and of course We will send you rings and now give me your official nightings I hear my present present and proudly present thee to the roundtable Right here thank you for support of the best podcast in the universe org Slash N A. Second half of the show and here we go well let's start off with something light before we get to some of the things I believe you might go into a new thing cropped up on C-SPAN, I don't know if you spotted this all i saw was black and white television but they apparently they found their Andy Carver

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C-SPAN Social Media Specialist, Tout Investment Analysis

The hosts discover that C-SPAN has hired a "digital social media specialist" and is promoting a platform called "Tout." They find that World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) and Vince McMahon are major investors in Tout, leading them to conclude that the political conventions are being treated like professional wrestling.

c-span· tout· wwe· vince mcmahon· social media· infographics

2:05:55 It's your birthday, birthday! Tomorrow that is. I'm so glad you're here And more people are celebrating Brian Leslie smoking hot Texas wife celebrates congratulations to you some pictures Tracy Pritchard congratulates Bob Crosby Charles George says happy birthday to his wife who celebrates with me tomorrow her name is Jess and Simon Reed's mom Carol turns 60 Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at the New York Jesus show Hey now! And two knighthoods, John. Which of course we discuss at the top of the show so you can just grab your... You got it? Yeah, I guess you do. Robert Brock! Bodenstab! Step forward please gentlemen both of you have donated to The No Agenda Show

2:06:44 Show the best podcast in the universe any amount of $1,000 or more even we highly appreciate that and of course We will send you rings and now give me your official nightings I hear my present present and proudly present thee to the roundtable Right here thank you for support of the best podcast in the universe org Slash N A. Second half of the show and here we go well let's start off with something light before we get to some of the things I believe you might go into a new thing cropped up on C-SPAN, I don't know if you spotted this all i saw was black and white television but they apparently they found their Andy Carver

2:07:37 or Carvin, whatever his name is. Oh don't tell me... so Randy Corbin? Randy Corbin is that who it is? He's the guy from PBS who aggregates tweets and they call it news. Right right he aggregates well apparently their C-SPAN saw this and said you know We have an even smaller audience than CNN so we can do this too. It's public money? Actually it is not, it's cable money. So you have the new guy and you want to hear him because he has something to tell ya. What does his title mean? He tells you what he is. Hi I'm Jeremy Seesmith, digital social media specialist. Stop! Okay...I gotta Google this.

2:08:23 C-spans... What did he call himself? Social media specialist. Now, you should note that as part of the social media since there's really rounding things up Facebook is kind of left out but that so you know as far as I'm concerned that's fantastic Okay, I don't really see the guy anywhere. During the conventions we're using social media in all sorts of ways to take you closer to the conventions and get a behind-the-scenes look Using Twitter were going to see what delegates are tweeting and also what other C-SPAN viewers are tweeting about the convention On Facebook were sharing images infographics pictures from the conventions as well as all major speeches from the conventions on Tout we're taking your reaction and reaction from delegates

2:09:07 And on Google Plus we're having conversations with delegates and reporters talking about the convention. We're also featuring blogs, and all of this is going to be featured at C-SPAN's convention hub at cspan.org slash campaign 2012. Check it out! Okay so tout? I've never heard of it either. Is that like taint only different? T O U T It's some crap, who knows what it is? Tain't? I think its taint No it's tout Hey, wait a minute. Campaign 2012 goes right to the... Oh okay it goes to the DNC tab I see. Where is this guy? So Tout has got stuff on Tout and by the way this is breaking news they're gonna use infographics. Oh wow. That's one thing we've never talked about how annoying are infographics What are infographics? You know those big charts

2:09:59 that show, it just happens and then this you know but its a cartoon thingy. You know what I really love? I love when they do word clouds because the whole trick of a word cloud is not how big cause your focus on oh this word is big or thats a big word It's which words they choose to put in the cloud that's what it's about but they never tell you that. Well I think we should do a word cloud that completely bogative wordclouds. In fact some of the words aren't even into text anywhere just put it in there I want so they're doing Google Hangouts. Oh touts, I think it's just calm taints It's much funnier. We should have a social network called taint and instead of doing a tout you do attained

2:10:41 My goodness, I've never heard of Tout. Who's behind Tout? I don't know! I just found out about it when i heard this guy. It said Tout There are a million possible things you can do but what's Tout? You gotta have some connection Something is corrupt about it Let's find out about Tout Who's running Tout? Who's running the show? This...I've never ever ever heard of Tout Yes exactly that's what I'm saying So let's find out Tout who's behind Tout Does it say...is there an About Us? Tout About here we go about maybe the chat room knows I'm gonna get a chatroom window a little closer to me here because you look up tout in the Wikipedia It's not even they don't even have the website. Just about the word the meaning of the word So it can just so Wikipedia doesn't help us which is unusual Interesting, it's not in The Book of Knowledge. So that's a problem Oh listen to this brand now from there about us Brian. This is both bogative

2:11:38 Brands like Access Hollywood, USA Today, ESPN CBS and The Weather Channel interact directly with their audiences soliciting comments and questions. It's a mainstream media shill network! Tout is changing how people interact delivering a rich social sharing experience in full color sound and motion Who is behind this? Oh we've got to watch this...Tout Come on man, we gotta find who's... I'm looking. I'm looking and not finding anything. You know what it is? It's... If i didn't just get this clip, I would have done some work. I found that! It's Huntsman social network. Listen here it is!

2:12:24 This is bogative. This is apparently... Where are they located? I can't even figure that out. I think, here's celebrities like Shaq, Katie Couric, Mitt Romney The Rock! Hey which celebrity doesn't fit in this list John? Shaq Katie Couric Mitt Romney the rock Jeff Probst and Greta Van Zusteren These are the celebrities who have started using tout to directly connect to their fans Stars like Madonna and Steven Spielberg answer users' touted questions from the red carpet. This is a Hollywood bullcrap thing! Yeah, hello? This must be... Is this Hila Nolton?

2:13:08 Who's doing, who is behind this thing? I'm trying to find out. If you want to email me get you have to go to jeremiatout.com so that doesn't reveal anything well let's go do a who is. Come on! I'm doing it now. I'm doing a who is right now okay Well you're going with something and I'll do a who is in the background Uh...I got the who is right here uh Michael Downing uh oh no its says its private It's got one of those private bullcrap things? Yep. They're hiding who was behind it? Yes Why?! Why not This is interesting Okay, now we gotta know Hey come on Cyber... cyber experts in our chat room Hello where are ya Come on The chat can do better than that Well maybe they'll try to do something Yeah the chatroom is actually very good John

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Roger McGuinn Chat Room Incident, Seven-String Guitar

Curry shares an anecdote about legendary guitarist Roger McGuinn entering the No Agenda chat room and being put off by the behavior of the participants. Dvorak mentions McGuinn's invention of the seven-string guitar. The hosts continue to search for information on the "Tout" platform and its C-SPAN connection.

roger mcguinn· the byrds· chat room· seven-string guitar· c-span

2:13:59 Roger McGuinn the famous guitarist was listening to our last show and what did he say? He says I decided to listen to this show. I could read the letter. I decided to listen to the show Live so I wait a minute after Adams appearance on Twitter, I bet you said that no he didn't my Did he say Adam Curry my favorite MTV VJ No okay all right He's an honest guy. So anyway, uh... So he says that- so I joined the chat room and he says what a bunch of A-holes! Really? Yeah. Maybe he was in the wrong chat room. How many do we have?! I don't know. I guess they roasted him or something. Roger McGuinn

2:14:44 Of course he's famous for playing in Crosby, Stills Nash Young and McGuinn no no And consider one of the greatest 12-string guitar players ever well have no He's a seven string guitar player. Well now, yeah because he invented the seven string guitar which I think if it was marketed better could take off Yeah just like my hydroxy booster because it really is really awesome You didn't invent the Hydroxy Booster? No! The 7-string guitar is just as important as the Hydroxy Booster and but yet the Hydroxy Booster you poo poo and then extra string on the guitar Because he's a freak of nature and can play seven strings

2:15:24 Anyway, so he's oh what you're saying is he's never listening to the show live again No, it says never going in the chat room. Oh, but he may listen to the show yeah who knows well of course I'm kidding but of course I was at his house in San Francisco right? Oh that's a place He stays in see we had dinner don't you remember yeah all right You were there lovely guy his wife is his wife as awesome Yeah His wife was awesome So, uh... but of course he'll never come here. He'll never come visit me in Austin because he doesn't fly. Hey, they've been to Texas a couple times on their tours? Yeah if they came that'd be awesome I'd cook for them. Well you'd be glad to stop by Okay so do we know anything about Tout now? I can't find out anything

2:16:12 This is nothing in here that tells you who they are where they're from when they started anything But I what I also can't find is this Jeremy douche. He's nowhere to be found, Amaya Oh is Jeremiah like aunt Jeremiah? Yes, you sure it's Jeremiah Jer just hit the contact me and it opens up a window It says to where there's no email goes no Jeremiah Hit the contact me button on what oh I'm looking at C-SPAN. I'm looking at... I'm looking at C-SPAN. So Jeremiah is, he's the C-SPAN guy but also he's the C-SPAN digital guy?

2:17:01 But he's also... Was that the guys name? Was it Jeremiah? That's what I'm talking about, the C-SPAN Digital Guy. Play that beginning again and say his name. I thought you said Jeremy Hi i'm Jeremy C-SPAN's digital Jeremy Yeah this is Jeremiah different. Well I can't find Jeremy. He's the C-SPAN Digital Guy Maybe he's part of this Tout scam We gotta find out more about Tout No, maybe ignoring the terms of use will be something in there. Okay well that's something we got to work on then this is good and that's very good had to be 13 to being it oh well its a Facebook spin-off then this tout thing this is so annoying who knows? This is the world we live in if everything...if we really wanted too would be annoyed constantly isn't there some way to I mean come on people can't believe the chat room hasn't figured this one out already

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

NASA and BBC Erased Moon Landing Tapes

The hosts discuss reports that both NASA and the BBC "erased" or "wiped" their original tapes of the 1969 moon landing. They express skepticism about the ability to "restore" degaussed tapes and mock a recent story about a kid's audio recording being used to fill the BBC's archives.

nasa· bbc· moon landing· magnetic tape· degaussing· apollo 11

2:17:56 No. Anyway, okay second half of the show so of course this has been a very hot topic recently in my world about the moon landing and as I was reviewing my notes because of course I actually have people are saying WWE for tout no yes they say Adam WWE is a major investor in tout well that could be but that doesn't mean That's pretty funny. Yeah, that would be funny here Oh here it is okay hold on a second I've got This is great getting the link right now and here it is from DMW media calm WWE partners with taunt joins 13 point four million dollar investment round Okay, well that many VCS mentioned let me see but how funny is that?

2:18:59 Yeah, this is a we are literally so this is about the election which of course We've already just called this professional wrestling and the you actually did it earlier in the show specifically The professional wrestling guys are actually involved It doesn't get any better Are we good or what? Damn boy We gots to be good Well, whatever. Let me see. Oh, let me see multi-channel This is so funny a good work chat room here. Well, let's see There's gotta be VCS involved thirteen point four million dollars has got to be in

2:19:40 Dear Vince McMahon, WWE Chairman. Tout's real-time video technology will become a critical component of fan interactivity in our weekly television programming known as the Republican and Democratic conventions and will be utilized to connect WWE directly with our fans in new ways! Exciting exciting! That's great... Well we're so much for the credibility of C-SPAN Well, he may have been they may have been suckered. What doesn't uh? What's the name of what's Mike Arrington's outfit was that called again? What's that name with that well you sound about TechCrunch? Yeah, TechCrunch They don't have to care not on this they're not a lot they didn't scoop this They're not there's gonna be venture beat tech crunch And is one third one mashables any one of those three should have had a story on this now They're too busy blowing Apple employees

2:20:36 That was my tech press I got a guy if you like that didn't you all right so let's move on It's actually what your car is gonna sound like when you put that thing on it Such a dick. All right, it's my birthday can she be nice to me tomorrow is your birthday? So we're going to, this is great. Send me links about this people are all over Tout now This is fantastic that the WWE actually invested Love it Okay so as I was reviewing my notes about the moon landing Do you recall John that a few years ago It turned out that NASA had erased all of the tapes Of The Moon Landing Remember that story? Yeah That was a baffling story And then... I mean I would have stored them in my basement

2:21:34 as they told me. Well apparently they degaussed them, which by the way if you degauss magnetic tape I don't really believe you can restore it but they claim that they restored it and even uh... You know if your erase a magnetic tape usually on one of the recorders sometimes there's residual data that you can recover but if you degauss With one of those huge magnet things? That sucks everything off. I mean, you're done! Well they had a Hollywood company in Burbank and they were magically able to restore it By the way it's the company that does all the special effects for all the big movies But thats not what I want here today And I find this very interesting The timing of this is that BBC apparently They also erased their video tapes Did you realize that John

2:22:23 Well, that's fascinating. Neil Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crew made history as we know but part of that history was lost until now the BBC's live moon landing program featuring Cliff Mitchell Moore James Burke and Sir Patrick Moore was missing presumed wiped one of those who mailed last weekend was Philip Longden who is 12 at the time welcome Philip. Philip made a recording of that program let's just hear how it begins with Philip's mum Today is the 21st of July 1969, the day the first man landed on the moon. So this is a four minute story which I won't bore you with about how some kid has saved the BBC by making a recording in 1969 of the moon landing what is kind of not

2:23:16 Which the BBC apparently lost had been wiped because a library doesn't have it and they're very interested in receiving this tape This is way. Let's back up a second yeah This is a... New story, brand new story. This is a tape- was it done as a kinescope? No! It's an audio tape that's the funny thing about it. Oh, it's an audio tape okay well I can see a kid doing that but That's the funny thing about it like the BBC is so happy they can restore their library with audio They've wiped one of the most important moments in history just like NASA did by the way

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Thalidomide Scandal, Grunenthal Company Apology

The German pharmaceutical company Grunenthal has issued its first apology to victims of Thalidomide, 50 years after the drug caused thousands of birth defects. The hosts question the timing of the apology and whether it is related to the expiration of statutes of limitations.

thalidomide· softenon· grunenthal· morning sickness· germany· apology

2:23:55 They and they're so happy that some kid has an audio recording all these years later. Do they do this just to? Entice me this is rile me up they have meetings about it, and they say what about curry? Yeah, that's great we love it We love it So that was my second half of the show When I was growing up in the Netherlands we had this There were some kids who had deformities and I think we called them soften on kids. Do you remember any of this John? No, okay because it was only I think in Germany and a couple other countries in Europe because there was a company a pharmaceutical company who had developed a drug

2:24:51 Which I believe in the Netherlands was called Softenon. I'm not sure what it was called elsewhere and if it ever made it anywhere like to the United States It was a Thalidomide does that ring about oh, yeah we had a thalidomide scandal here Luckily we caught our thalidomide problem early right and most of Europe didn't and there's a bunch of these People they're all pretty much in their 50s and 60s now right so kind of my age And I remember being in school, and you'd see some of these people like no with an arm An inch long and stuff, and you know it's really. It was messed up Yeah, that was terrible as it was sold as a headache No, it was morning sickness. It was against morning sickness, okay? Well the headache remedy in the United States right but it was sold to pregnant women as yeah Smart move yeah So Dave apologized

2:25:47 John. Speaking at the unveiling of a statute to victims, the company's chief executive said its long silence was a sign of shock. We ask for your forgiveness because for nearly 50 years we didn't find a way of reaching out to you he said. We're very sorry about that." Maybe it is because it no longer... they can't... what is this? Statute of limitations? You think thats why hes doing it now?

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Haldol Side Effects, Veteran Medication Concerns

The hosts read a long list of side effects for the antipsychotic drug Haldol (Haloperidol), including "worm-like tongue movements" and "seeing everything with a brown tint." They express concern that this drug will be used on the 100,000 veterans targeted by the recent executive order on mental health.

haldol· haloperidol· veterans· side effects· nih· psychotic disorders

2:26:31 Wow, that would be sinister. That would be chicken crap! How could I even consider this to be the truth? This is unreal and of course... Yeah, I think the Japanese are still waiting to apologize to the Chinese by using the same theory. Right What are they gonna apologize for? Manchuria Oh The Manchuco whatever they call it you know where they the rape of Nanking. Taputara Chingchi They were terrible. You sent me a link, while just sticking on the farmer stuff. Haloperidol? Is that something you wanted me to do with this? Haldol! Well I sent you another link which was something... it had a clip but i didn't get it but there's this story thats floating around on veterans news Do you have that email that I send ya? Yeah and we actually... We kind of discussed because we talked about this woman before

2:27:26 Uh, well this... The CIA asset and she makes all these accusations. Yeah I've read her book but isn't this the executive assassination ring that you wanted to talk about? Yeah yeah the executive assassination ring but what I thought was interesting was let me get the Heldahl thing She says that they, she was one of the first people arrested under the Patriot Act she claims Yes Although I don't know if any documentation there must be some And she was taken aside and told to, you know shut up and all the rest. She was in prison for five years and considered a... A belligerent enemy of the state. She was a belligerent. But she said that the CIA likes to do when they threatened her with this was giving her an injection of Haldol which turns you into a zombie! Uh-huh

2:28:16 Now, so I looked up Haldol which is something that floats around. It's used to treat psychotic disorders and but i just thought it was the funny... we can talk more about her and we can talk more about Dick Cheney assassination ring uh... which he killed some senator and then somebody else anyway Oh yeah, Pat Tillman. This thing was new to me. Apparently Pat Tillman the gung-ho guy from Arizona State or he's the Arizona Cardinals and he quit the football team to go fight in Afghanistan and I guess he was going just about to the point where he is going to say this is

2:28:56 whole thing stinks and he was going to come out and say it but somehow he had a conversation with of all people apparently there was a correspondence between him and Noam Chomsky, and Chomsky outed him. And so they had to kill him. So this is surprising to you somehow? No. But what's surprising is the great list I mean they never advertised this on TV So let me just want to read this. Oh, you mean this excellent drug that we have no access to? Or can't we get it? Can we get us a... You can get it I think you can get it Okay so But I just love the side effects and I wanted to just read them. Okay, because we can't there's no ad but it'd be the same thing you know how HowlDoll which is also Hello Peridol can cause drowsiness that's reasonable dry mouth yeah increased saliva blurred vision loss of appetite mm-hmm constipation or diarrhea heartburn nausea vomiting

2:29:54 vomiting, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep blank facial expression uncontrollable eye movements slowed uncontrollable movements of any part in the body restlessness agitation nervousness mood changes dizziness headache breast enlargement breast milk production missed menstrual periods decreased sexual ability in men increased sexual desire Difficulty urinating, fever muscle stiffness confusion irregular heartbeat sweating decreased thirst or neck cramps tongue that sticks out of the mouth

2:30:32 I gotta get me some of this. This sounds good! Tightness in the throat, difficulty swallowing, fine worm-like tongue movements... Whoa is there a commercial name for this? HalDoll. Uncontrollable rhythmic face, mouth or jaw movements. Seizures, eye pain and discoloration Decreased vision especially at night Seeing everything with a brown tint That's when you put your head up your ass apparently. After taking Haldol, rash yellowing of the skin or eyes and erection that lasts for hours may cause other side effects I mean what is this stuff even doing on the market? And apparently according to this woman in her report you end up with they you know if they're trying to dig I guess everyone in the agency knows it just give me a shot at it then you like you're just like an idiot

2:31:29 that can't do anything. Why is this medication prescribed? I'm reading from the government website, is that what you're looking at now? Yeah the PubMed Health No, I'm reading the NIH.gov Yeah it's used to treat psychotic disorders This is what they are going to give those 100 thousand veterans Also used to control motor tics. I have that verbal tics, I have that hey it's for Tourette's! I can get it yeah cool so instead of shouting F words and twitching my tongue could be hanging out of my mouth and I could see everything brown? Yeah also the time you'll be moving around in a worm like way. You look like your trying to pick up girls in Texas We have a winner

2:32:20 Oh man, this is fantastic. You know this is not a coincidence that we talk about uh that this executive order comes out and you stumble upon this uh hell doll yeah other uses used to treat confusion and difficulty thinking yeah I bet and understanding that is caused by severe physical or mental illness talk to your doctor about the possible risks I'm severely ill. Is there a risk of me taking this? Nah! But it actually says you can give it to adults and children who have Tourette's disorder Yeah, yeah...I figured you're a candidate I think I am an outstanding candidate I'll tell ya what Um..I'll get the doctor prescribe some And why don't you and I have a Helldoll party Uh....I'm just gonna skip that party We could have our tongues hanging out and blblbllbbllblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl

2:33:20 I'm sorry, but at least i don't have Tourette's. Well along that tip there um there is a bill That is a California bill which you may be very interested in. Has it now passed? Yes, it's passed onto your fine governor Jerry Brown for his signature and this is very interesting bill Senate Bill 1172 SB1172 He hasn't told us... Don't Google it just yet! You already googled that didn't ya? No I'm writing something down Haldol

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

California SB 1172, Gay Conversion Therapy Ban

The California legislature has passed SB 1172, a bill that prohibits mental health providers from engaging in "sexual orientation change efforts" with minors. The hosts discuss the legal definitions in the bill and question the government's intrusion into private therapy practices.

california· sb 1172· jerry brown· gay conversion therapy· mental health· legislation

2:32:20 Oh man, this is fantastic. You know this is not a coincidence that we talk about uh that this executive order comes out and you stumble upon this uh hell doll yeah other uses used to treat confusion and difficulty thinking yeah I bet and understanding that is caused by severe physical or mental illness talk to your doctor about the possible risks I'm severely ill. Is there a risk of me taking this? Nah! But it actually says you can give it to adults and children who have Tourette's disorder Yeah, yeah...I figured you're a candidate I think I am an outstanding candidate I'll tell ya what Um..I'll get the doctor prescribe some And why don't you and I have a Helldoll party Uh....I'm just gonna skip that party We could have our tongues hanging out and blblbllbbllblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl

2:33:20 I'm sorry, but at least i don't have Tourette's. Well along that tip there um there is a bill That is a California bill which you may be very interested in. Has it now passed? Yes, it's passed onto your fine governor Jerry Brown for his signature and this is very interesting bill Senate Bill 1172 SB1172 He hasn't told us... Don't Google it just yet! You already googled that didn't ya? No I'm writing something down Haldol

2:34:05 This is the gay therapy ban bill. Have you heard of this? Nope! It's very, very interesting so the gay therapy ban bill which as I said SB 1172 for California only but it has now been passed introduced by Senator Liu is very very interesting so just a little digest here The bill would prohibit a mental health provider, as defined from engaging in sexual orientation change efforts as defined with the patient under 18 years of age. The bill would provide that any sexual orientation change efforts attempted on a patient under eighteen years of age by mental health providers shall be considered unprofessional conduct and shall subject the provider to discipline by the providers licensing entities." You can lose your medical practice if you

2:35:01 try to, well here it is. If you try to change someone's sexual behavior What if a gay person walks into the doctors office and says do you know what I want to change my sexual behavior? I feel that maybe i'm not really gay Uh...if your under eighteen that will be against the law Wow And here's whats interesting so this uh...this is fascinating bill and im not I don't think this belongs in legislation at all. What kind of country are we living in? Fascist! Yeah, the legislature finds and declares all of the following so these are fact facts and truths known to California being lesbian gay or bisexual is not a disease disorder illness deficiency or shortcoming

2:35:55 The major professional association of mental health practitioners and researchers in the United States have recognized this fact for nearly 40 years. Can I just say, why has transgendered and bicurious been omitted? Isn't LBGT? Why are the T's not represented and why are the bicurious also not represented on this list? I feel discriminated against." And then it just goes on and on and on at the very end here Sexual orientation change efforts definition you'd be interested in this any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual sexual sexual orientation This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions Like girlfriend. I don't know what does that mean? What is it?

2:36:49 Behavior or gender expressions. What do you think that means? Wow read that again Okay, sexual orientation change efforts means colon any practices by mental health providers That seek to change an individual's sexual orientation this includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings towards individuals of the same sex. But what is change behaviors, or gender expressions?

2:37:27 Let's say some male. But just take me as an example Okay, you go into the doctor and you're wearing a boa A feather boa And you keep wearing this damn thing As you talk to him he keeps flipping the boa over your shoulder And then you know and then do what you normally do of course which is preen your hair. And I twitch and drop half a bar off. Well that's something else, so you preen your hair and grab the bow and flip it and call the doctor darling. So that sort of thing, this guy says look Adam, this bow-a thing has got to go. That boom bang throw him in jail violation!

2:38:12 That's not right. I think that's kind of what it says, yeah! Yeah that's what is says However I'm not under the age of 18 Well that is even worse if you imagine some 14 year old with a boa Sexual orientation change efforts does NOT include Oh there are exceptions Psychotherapies that provide acceptance support and understanding of clients or the facilitation of clients coping, social support and identity exploration and development including sexual orientation neutral interventions to prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices. Oh this is interesting so if I

2:39:04 Unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices. Well, I guess this is highly open to interpretation So if I like having anal sex because this is so this how crazy this is gonna get unprotected anal sex then you could Intervene and try to change my behavior In fact, I think I think you could interpret this law as you must intervene what is doing in legislation? Is my question that's weird I mean this is just more government intrusion in people's lives and it's the worst case scenario. Well what's interesting is that it will come down to licensing and mental health providers so this will eventually have something to do with insurance or something yeah but I thought that was highly unusual to have this in a bill, meanwhile in Germany they're looking now at

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Angela Merkel in China, Airbus Factory Export

German Chancellor Angela Merkel visited China to sign trade deals and discuss EU government bonds. The hosts highlight the existence of an Airbus factory in China that has already produced 100 planes, criticizing the export of high-tech manufacturing facilities.

angela merkel· china· airbus· trade deals· eu bonds· manufacturing

2:40:06 piercing your children's ears to be the same as child abuse? Well first of all I don't know anyone who wants to pierce their children's ears but i have seen it. Well you've watched Toddlers and Tiaras haven't you? Don't they wear clip-ons? No, no they pierce. That show is sick! Yeah But this is like watching a train wreck its actually kind of interesting Well, while you're talking about not to change the subject but I'm gonna do that since you mentioned Germany Yeah There's a piece of unreported news. You know where is Merkel right now? Merkel...I know where she is But I won't say it Well, you know where she's been and I think she's doing an end around even though this EU has mentioned in this story but read China on all the EU bonds or read I mean play Oh

2:41:04 I'm sorry, I had the wrong question. That court shared the second round of China-German governmental consultations. A slew of trade deals worth several billions have been signed between both sides and China now says it's willing to continue investing in EU government bonds after fully evaluating all the risks involved There's a couple things here. One, she is in China doing some deals trying to screw us by the way and... Why us? Yes the EU they don't like us so but the point is that I love the Chinese the way they weasel out of this stuff They said they're gonna look at reinvesting and EU bonds after considering all you know In other words are not going to give them a nickel So the Germans are gonna get screwed And heres' the example how the Germans are gonna get screwed because when I heard this

2:42:05 Oh, I didn't know this. Play Merkel in China. Whoa. Now what is an air... now here's the thing, okay so somehow China managed to get an Airbus factory they've already built a hundred planes there the 320s into China where they're making Airbuses in China yeah that's well in fact I think they should stamp on every plastic Airbus plane made in China it's a great idea that really makes you want to fly them

2:42:55 Now the thing is, it seems to me that of all the jobs situations you can import or export. The last thing you really need to like export is your aircraft making facilities in China. I mean usually when Boeing finishes a jet They fly it to wherever they deliver it. They don't make in China! With a big bow, and it's like made in the USA bishies Here we go American Did you know that they had an Airbus factory in China? No I didn't know that of course not Of course not And is this covered by any American media? No Well...no Or do the Europeans even know this? No but I think they should say Made In China You'd know that would be funny

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Yosemite Hantavirus Outbreak, Curry Village Narrative

The hosts discuss the hantavirus outbreak at Curry Village in Yosemite National Park. Dvorak suggests the story might be a "hit job" by environmental groups like the Sierra Club to shut down the historic log cabins as part of an "Agenda 21" style land-use restriction.

yosemite· hantavirus· curry village· sierra club· agenda 21

2:43:39 Everything in this thing seems so weird. Excellent, all right I got a couple things just to wing by you one very funny that curry village and Yosemite as now killing people you've read this is that the hanta thing yeah yeah I believe this is a setup. They've been trying to get the curry name out of the place. I wish it was that cool Now they've been trying to shut down isn't agenda 21 You know like the Sierra Club and all these douchebags, they've been suing Yosemite for years you know They throw rocks down the mountain say it's unsafe The story is too crazy 10,000 people at risk. I mean what do you know about this rat poop disease? Does this sound right to you

2:44:27 Well, the rat poop disease first cropped up in the news about 10 years ago when apparently some areas of... and it's only a certain kind of rat. Oh really? Ten years ago? That's very interesting! And it was in New Mexico or Arizona and the commentary then was that poop in the dry, arid areas is where they would somehow because it was the humidity was zero and it was hot these little rats are a little...they're crazy looking things. They're not like a Norway rat. They would...two or three people caught this hantavirus

2:45:05 Right, but the story is there's 10,000 people at risk if you stayed at Camp Curry Which is log cabins then it seems unlikely right so I'm pretty sure this is the Nature Conservancy Sierra Club they've been after people in Yosemite for a decade yeah And they hate those little cabins of course really cool by the way. Yeah on that outstanding and So I think it's a hit job and But you know, I've been trying to research has been very difficult but it does look like That's a hit job. I Look into it too because that sounds like a hit job now that you mention it. I did got by me Yeah Well is because of the curry thing that I kind of figured out two

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Internet Freedom Policy, Haiti Cholera, Afghan Base

Curry covers several news items, including a State Department workshop on "Internet Freedom," the ongoing cholera epidemic in Haiti caused by UN peacekeepers, and the halting of the "green on blue" training program in Afghanistan. He also mentions the construction of a $100 million permanent drone base in Afghanistan.

internet freedom· haiti· cholera· afghanistan· drones· united nations

2:45:48 We are very welcome, I'm sure. September 13th 2012 if we're lucky we can register for the US Department of State workshop in Washington DC on Internet Freedom Policy I would invite any of our producers, human resources in the nation's capital to register for this and please because we know internet freedom equals Internet governance. And it is very important someone goes and finds out what is going on here. What are they gonna try to sneak past us? Well, we know what it is! It's gonna be you can't bully people

2:46:39 It's closing down freedom of speech. This is just an extension of the United Nations Internet Freedom thing, the resolution that we signed on to And then my favorite one... Haiti! UN Chief Ban Ki-moon warned on Friday Haiti was struggling to cope with a cholera epidemic that has killed thousands and deteriorating conditions in tent camps as aid groups withdraw from the impoverished country due to lack of funding. Okay, I would like you think back

2:47:17 to the Kumbaya and the George Clooney, and the presidents. We had Clinton and Bush and Obama... Just send your cash. And you sent your cash, and you texted your money... ...and you felt good and had a concert! It was awesome and everyone was there. Now cholera has sickened 600 thousand people... ...killed more than 7400 in Haiti since 2010 By the way, the cholera wasn't part of the earthquake problem that was brought by the United Nations

2:47:55 I want you to feel really good. Did you change your Twitter icon to a little Haiti logo? I want you to feel really good about what you did and that the douchebag elites took that money, and Clinton has a hotel room now—a whole suite of a new hotel in Haiti—and they have a basket-weaving market! How awesome is it?! That is what should be covered in the news Play it, play the-play it? Yeah. Adam C Curry's Pet Peeve of the Day It pisses me off! That's just a pet peeve of the year but okay... It pisses me off. It makes me so angry and then this just out uh the green on blue this is the Afghan um police forces that are being trained by our US forces has been-the program has been halted

2:48:46 Yeah, as of today breaking news Special Operations Forces has a strong and trusted relationship with its Afghan partners that has endured for more than a decade Despite the recent rise in insider attacks. They're relatively rare Special operations is fully committed to a closer productive relationship But we're not doing it anymore right now either because it's dumb whole thing is dumb Recruit the recruiting Taliban they come in they turn on our own guys and kill him Let's get out of that stupid desert, and we're building a 100 million dollar base in Afghanistan I have on reliable information A new base. A permanent base. A perma-base Yeah, it's over by the border That's gonna be where the drones are stored Absolutely because you know once were in we never leave And then I have a question for you

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

White House Beer Recipe, Corn Sugar Controversy

The hosts analyze the recently released White House honey ale recipe. They criticize the use of "malt extract" and "corn sugar," arguing that the recipe is a low-quality "bogus" formula intended to promote the high fructose corn syrup industry under the name "corn sugar."

white house· beer recipe· corn sugar· high fructose corn syrup· lagunitas

2:49:35 So this, I'm sure you saw this because it was tweeted everywhere. Nice video on the White House. We have this... We the people thing on whitehouse.gov and you can say hey, how come the TSA are douchebags and feeling me up? And they haven't investigated like they promised Congress like they were mandated and all this stuff so that usually gets taken off because oh You know it's like yeah didn't have enough votes or whatever but interestingly enough The human resources and slaves of Gitmo Nation were so interested in the recipe to the White House beer. Oh yeah, we gotta talk about this for one second before we finish So the beer apparently includes corn sugar? Right Explain

2:50:23 Well, you know we've been talking about how they're trying to redefine... Let's take that first of all let's start with this beer which is you have a link to it I suppose. In the show notes of course The beer formulas have got the beer community completely bent out of shape Because? Because not from the corn sugar because that's just least of the problems. It's all these extracts that are not necessary if you were serious about making beer in the White House, you could get the best hops, the Chinook hops from Washington State and so Snow Qualamy hop some of these really famous hops that we've developed in this country that are even exported to Germany. Wait a minute, you're telling me he is using foreign hops is he? No they're using extracts!

2:51:06 So it's not even using hops. That's the point they're not using hops are not using they're using everything is bullcrap this is a Bad these are like something you'd pick up at your local corner brew it at home Club This is like a bogus thing and I believe that part of it Is to push the corn sugar thing as regular sugar when it's if you start doing the research on corn sugar High fructose corn syrup, but this is a bullcrap formula. The president's got a low-rent beer formula on there It's ridiculous let me read the ingredients And then you will walk this through the ingredients Two... 3.3 pound cans of light malt extract. Why?

2:51:51 One pound... Well, who would use that except some kid? One pound of light dried malt extract. Extract! Twelve ounces of crushed amber crystal meth I mean malt sorry So why are they using extract? Why is there some legality? Because this is a bogus formula Eight ounces of biscuit malt one pound of White House honey 1 and half ounces of Kent Golding's hop pellets What's that? Who knows. One half ounce of Fuggles hop pellets, two tablespoons of gypsum... Isn't that what's in the wall? Uh-huh. Isn't it what they put in drywall? Gypsum is actually a natural ingredient certain salt mines in the salt itself one package of Windsor dry ale yeast

2:52:47 And then finally, ¾ cup corn sugar for priming. Is this the corn sugar that we've been talking about or is it something else? If you go to the high fructose corn syrup site, the site done by the public relations companies. It is the same thing! So what...it's high fructose corn syrup

2:53:23 called corn sugar. I mean, they say so themselves the people who push the high fructose corn syrup now you'll recall that i said to you that they would be making something that looked like it would be crystallized sugar do you think this is it or just literally corn syrup? I don't know we have a... if you go scrounge around in the net looking for a corn sugar that is crystal and there's something you could take a teaspoon of And why corn sugar in the first place? What is the point of putting it into... This whole, oh we drink beer at the White House. It's just bull crap! I mean this White House is full of it. Oh here it is. To bottle make a priming syrup on the stove with one cup of sterile water and three quarter cup priming sugar which is the corn sugar bring to boil for five minutes pour the mixture into an empty bottling bucket

2:54:20 So now they're called, but it's corn sugar. Yeah It is so but I can understand where beer guys like what? What kind of crap is this and that's the honey ale Okay Here's corn sugar for sale that is in the form you're talking about there You go, but maybe this actually may be dextrose Oh, so that whole rant of yours was wrong I don't know what this stuff is doesn't look right Let me look at the larger image. We suck! I don't know what this crap is... Why would you want it? You can get sugar everywhere, why would you buy this weird sugar? Save sufficient sugar for bottling. Refer to recipe This is a scam to sell this sugar from Kent Ohio So maybe the- Oh a swing state Swing state oh I see It's a swing state

2:55:27 But maybe Kent Golding's and Fuggles is that maybe? I don't know what those are. I'm not a beer maker! Wow, that's interesting because you think you would be Why? I don't drink beer No but you're so knowledgeable on everything Oh bullcrap...I mean i do drink good beer By the way for people on the west coast The beer you want to drink is Lagunitas IPA Best Beer On The West Coast Anyway, I'm sure that of all the things we discussed today about douchebaggery killing people You know telling you what to do shut up slave with not will get no emails on that instead It'll be like you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to beer. That's the emails were gonna get

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

Show Outro, Sinclair Lewis Recommendation, Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode by reiterating their recommendation of Sinclair Lewis's It Can't Happen Here. They remind listeners of the live stream schedule and the "value for value" model before signing off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

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2:56:12 Yes, so before you do that stop and think and if you see something say something If there's a veteran walking around who looks kooky report on Reporting reporting immediately. All right John I think we should get out of here. I have I don't think I made it. You should have got out of here half an hour ago, we've got a Thursday coming up! Well we had a long donation segment with my birthday and everything so... Ah yes your birthday well happy birthday my friend happy birthday many more to come That sounds that sounds so sincere thank you so much Oh i mean really seriously Noah Jenning book club recommendation is Sinclair Lewis It Can't Happen Here this is John C Dvorak's recommendation and I endorse that

2:57:00 It is the original Atlas Shrugged, which of course means you kind of like that too. That's just my extrapolation And we will have a No Agenda producer update on the stream coming up right after we're done here noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net Check us out live every single Thursday and Sunday morning 9 o'clock Gitmo Nation West AM time I would say Tapu Atada Ching Ching Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state, that would be Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from the vicinity of northern Silicon Valley The northern part. I'm John C Dvorak will be back on Thursday when I'm 48 right here on no agenda And I need your help first and foremost

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