Episode 428 · Sunday, 22 July 2012

Muslim Hugger

A forensic look at the Aurora theater shooting reveals suspicious media patterns, federal counter-terrorism anomalies, and a push for global disarmament through the United Nations.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 428

About this episode

The mass shooting at a Cinemark theater in Aurora, Colorado, serves as the catalyst for a deep investigation into media scripting and federal involvement. FBI Special Agent James Yacone, a high-level counter-terrorism official recently transferred from Washington D.C. to Denver, oversaw the rapid 90-second police response and the subsequent command center established at Gateway High School. Discrepancies in the official narrative emerge through analyzed social media activity from victim Alex Sullivan and conflicting eyewitness accounts regarding multiple suspects.

Secondary reports link the tragedy to the United Nations Small Arms Transfer Treaty, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton advocating for international arms controls as the UN meets in New York. On CNN, actor Stephen Baldwin and host Don Lemon appeared to follow a pre-planned script regarding the Patriot Act, while Piers Morgan clashed with a University of Denver professor over the commercialization of tragedy. Simultaneously, Senator Carl Levin led hearings into Mexican drug cartels laundering money through U.S. banks, and former FDIC chair Sheila Bair faced questioning over her knowledge of the LIBOR interest rate manipulation scandal.

In a moment of corporate synergy, CBS utilized its 60 Minutes platform to promote a Steve Jobs biography published by its own subsidiary, Simon & Schuster. The show also welcomes Sir Eponymous the Beach Knight to the No Agenda Roundtable following a significant contribution from Queensland. Adam Curry and Ms. Mickey prepare for the Hot Pockets 2009 trailer tour, kicking off at the Cherrywood Coffeehouse in Austin before heading toward Dallas and Boise.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Dark Knight Rises Movie Massacre, Media Scripting Analysis

The 2012 mass shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises is analyzed for potential media scripting and "false flag" indicators. Observations are made regarding the repetitive nature of televised interviews and the rapid production of a CBS 48 Hours special. A specific interview involving a CBS correspondent in Washington D.C. is highlighted for its seemingly rehearsed questions about the suspect's manifesto and digital footprint.

aurora· colorado· james holmes· dark knight rises· cbs news· media scripting· false flag

00:00 Have you hugged a Muslim today? Trying to figure out how many guns equals an armory here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the weather is fine and there's no shootings, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Slow news week. Yeah, you know it's a shame because I was hoping we'd have something to talk about in this show. God, I hate these weeks.

00:41 It's so hard because then you really have to dig and you gotta look around and see what's you know What's being covered up and for those of you listening to this in the future? This is the week of the Dark Knight Batman Colorado movie theater massacre. Yeah, actually I have the The one, I think the one that nailed it in terms of, here it is, it's called the Dark Knight Rising Movie Massacre. Next, the Dark Knight Rises Movie Massacre. And how to stay alive if you're caught in a theater shooting. I want you to get down, get on the floor, make yourself low, low profile, flat. Plus, the rampage played out in real time. Yeah.

01:28 So, um, in your, did you get out at all? Were you out of the house? Well, I know I don't get out of the house much. I'm usually doing research for this show. That was priceless. Can I ask you something? That was priceless. No. Did you ever hear so many scripted? interviews. Oh, and the same people. Out of control. The same people over and over again. It's the same people. I see the same interviews on every channel. Now let me just say this because in the alternative media there's tons of stories about this being a false flag, about this being a setup, etc. etc. and it would be really easy to dive into that.

02:20 But I think we have to say qui bono in this case. If this was a set up false flag, it most definitely was not done by the people running the Obama presidential campaign nor the Romney presidential campaign because neither of these candidates, no one in their right mind running for president would want to have this conversation right now. None of them. You will agree with me on that. Yeah, I'm I I'm I think we're probably gonna agree on most of this because we're on I think People listening to show expect us to be deconstructing this and also looking for what this might be covering up some other news You know, there's other ideas out there. There is some stuff. Yeah for sure and you know, but this is the most interesting for just numerous reasons I got the biggest kick out of people predicting what we'd say and

03:13 and the false flag was one of them, the other one was MK Ultra, somebody put on my blog. Oh, Adam's gonna say it's MK Ultra, you know, which is like, why? But this is an interesting scenario only from the perspective of the scripting that went on. In fact, if you had the opportunity or anybody out there had the opportunity to watch a real gem, It was the 48-hour show on CBS yesterday, which within 48 hours, curiously, just by coincidence, they put together the biggest pile of packaged material I have ever seen, all of it extremely scripted. In fact, they have a couple of clips that where you can just almost hear the guy reading the script and it's like two people involved in these interviews.

03:58 And it's just like a real head shaker and then I'm you know, I've dug up a couple things that might be interesting I'm sure you have to yeah, do you want me to play your obvious script CBS first then to back up your Well, if you want to go in that direction, there's a couple, I might as well get some of the scripted stuff out of the way so people can kind of get a clue about this. Now here's a guy interviewing another CBS guy, this guy, the one guy's on the scene and he is interviewing a guy that's in Washington DC who looks like a CIA guy to me but he's a CBS correspondent, I've never seen him before. What's the difference? Now listen to the script and the questions that are asked, I want you to, you, I want you to tell me if you would ever in a million years

04:42 asked these questions and the third question, in fact the last question is the one that is the most ludicrous. I've never heard anyone ask this question before and it was just obvious softball so this guy could yak away. That police do want the answers. What warning signs were missed if any? And what moved a quiet neuroscience grad to allegedly commit mass murder, Jeff? Bob, what happens immediately to all the evidence that's been collected? Well, a good part of the physical evidence, I'm thinking of the chemicals, what's left of the homemade devices. That will be taken to the FBI lab in Quantico here in Virginia for analysis. In addition, cyber experts want to take a hard look at any computers they might find, hard drives, files, thumb drives. And police, of course, also will be interested in any personal writings, journals, manifestos, notes, anything that holds a safe word. And Bob, what are they looking for now?

05:37 Well, specifically they want to find anything that sheds some kind of light on his state of mind, especially over the last four months. Who did Holmes stay in touch with? How often was he in touch with him? Importantly, what websites did he visit? The bottom line is investigators are going to essentially try to map his behavior. They'll follow all of his communications and contacts out what they call the tree to see if all of that adds up to some kind of motive here. These are CIA guys. It's like, what are they looking for now? What kind of a question is this? The manifesto. And why would he know? The guy is in Washington DC. Well, he's at Quantico's where they know everything, obviously.

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Stephen Baldwin, Don Lemon Patriot Act Discussion

Actor Stephen Baldwin appeared on CNN with Don Lemon to discuss the Aurora shooting, where a perceived scripting error occurred. Baldwin attempted to link the purchase of 6,000 rounds of ammunition to the Patriot Act, suggesting a "red flag" system should have been triggered. The exchange is noted for the awkward timing between the host and guest as they navigated toward a specific policy talking point.

stephen baldwin· don lemon· cnn· patriot act· gun control· ammunition

06:17 Well, let me let me take you in a few directions here. Well before that I want to do one more scripted thing because it's funnier All right. I wanted this was really funnier than what I've got. Okay? Okay, probably not But let me do Stephen Baldwin came on with Don Lemon. Oh And Baldwin comes on, because he's a big gun enthusiast, but he thinks this is bad. And so now I took two little clips out of about a three and a half minute piece, and I just took the beginning, the very beginning of the three and a half minutes, where Lemon stepped on the script. Really, oh, this is so interesting and so you had I could have kept I have the whole the whole Show notes for the and I see it for the show here the whole thing and so Baldwin stepped in

07:04 on this on the thing and and I'm sorry yeah but lemon stepped on Baldwin's line and Baldwin spent the next two minutes worming his way back and he at the very end he and then lemon finally realized what had happened so he kept him on extra long he finally comes through at the end with his little zinger he needed. So this guy purchased 6,000 rounds in the six to eight weeks prior I mean perhaps I don't know. I'm a gun advocate. I am. And obviously this is tragic. I don't want to go there with the whole guns aren't the problem thing. I believe in personal protection myself. But I think that maybe in the future as part of the Patriot Act... Should you be able to buy 6,000 rounds in a short amount of time? With these things continuing to happen now even as a gunner... Okay, so he stepped on the Patriot Act. Yeah, he was gonna say something about the Patriot Act. He stepped on him.

07:57 And so now we wait and wait and wait. And now after two minutes or more of this jacking, we come to the he brings it home and then the limit can close him out. Sure. What that means. Yeah. Very good. You're very careful. But you're very honest when you said it made you rethink yourself. Yeah, I think that, you know, and again, with the Patriot Act, you know, there's there's monitoring and surveillance that's allowed to happen. I think that a red flag should have gone up when this guy bought six thousand rounds or something in such a short period of time. Stephen Baldwin, thank you. All right, red flag. It was unbelievable. Red flag. But he came on for this little pitch and he did it. It took him three minutes to get there. Interesting. And what's weird is that they also, you know, Lemon had all these memes. People should listen to this sometime. Lemon had all these memes and my favorite one is, well, when the founding fathers came up with the second amendment. And I always like to, my retort is, hey,

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Second Amendment Interpretation, Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Robin Thomas of the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence argued on CBC that the Second Amendment only provides a limited right to own a gun for self-defense within the home. This interpretation, based on the Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions, is contested by the hosts. The discussion also references the expiration of the 1994 federal assault weapons ban.

robin thomas· second amendment· supreme court· heller decision· mcdonald decision· assault weapon ban

08:52 You know Cassius Clay, Henry Clay's brother, had a cannon. Well okay, since you're going that direction, on CBC, the Canadian broadcasting, because it's always interesting to see what other countries are saying, they had on Robin Thomas, who is a representative from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which is a San Francisco organization, which was started after I believe, it's a bunch of lawyers, was started after 10 lawyers were killed in some law firm shooting. Do you remember any of this in San Francisco? Yeah, yeah. It was they were cornered. Some maniac went out, they were cornered. Nowadays this would be terrorism of course. They were cornered in the building and he just killed a bunch of attorneys and it was apparently big news and it was also the butt of a lot of jokes if you can imagine. So here's what the lawyer said. And those type of weapons

09:46 Absolutely don't need to be because this is the big meme right now. We're back to words like ballistic military These types of weapons armory arsenal legal don't need to be accessed by civilians civilians citizens yet They are legal in the United States, so there's certainly even minor steps that we could take to uh... begin to address this issue i was important john you as a constitutional law professor will be interesting to hear what she has to say there's a lot more that we would need to do to really uh... make significant progress but but you look at the mass shootings that have happened even the last few years almost all of them

10:24 the shooter utilizes these military-style weapons and we believe there's absolutely no reason for them to be legal in the United States. And what is the answer to that? A national law outlawing that? You've got a constitution that gives Americans the right to bear arms, right? script. Listen, here it comes. The Constitution only gives a very, according to the Supreme Court, the Constitution only gives you a limited right to have a gun in your home for self-defense. Really? What? What? What? What was this? This is really interesting. You can't have a rifle, you can't go shooting, you can't do anything? What? You only have a limited right to carry a gun in your home? Well, this is... What kind of an aborted mess is... Let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you. This is all over their website, smartgunlaws.org. I was not aware of this, but of course I wasn't aware of their

11:19 of this organization either. This is based on the Heller and McDonald decisions and according to the Heller and McDonald decisions, there's a, you know, they basically analyze and twist and turn the Second Amendment into what is necessary as it pertains to the right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever for whatever purpose, the court apparently on the District of Columbia v. Heller struck that down.

11:55 So that's why, it's all in the show notes of course, but I just thought it was very interesting that she would say that. So there's no big broad unlimited right like I think some, the NRA and others would have you believe. We did have an assault weapon. What? That's too funny. I like it, yeah. A federal assault weapon ban in the United States for 10 years from 1994 to 2004 which unfortunately lapsed. But... Well then this makes what she just said makes no sense what she just said. No, of course not. So now we have another report from, a much shorter report, from the CBCs up there in Canada. And because everyone's trying to figure out why, why did this happen? Well, the answer is of course very obvious. The mass killings in Colorado has many here sounding the alarm. Is the increasing presence of guns in BC and the decline in mental health services putting us all at risk?

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

ABC News Tea Party Retraction, Mental Health Narrative

ABC News correspondent Brian Ross faced criticism for incorrectly suggesting a link between the Aurora shooter and the Tea Party based on a similarly named individual on a website. The report was later retracted. Additionally, media narratives regarding the decline of mental health services and the suspect's physical appearance, specifically his red hair, are examined.

brian ross· abc news· tea party· aurora· jim holmes· mental health

12:50 Decline in mental health services because we're all insane By the way, I just want to say it is on these BBC bull crap it is obvious to me that The cause of all of this is of course the red hair dye that seeped into his brain Red hair dye is of course the cause of all of this. That's that's something that's a something being overlooked, but I guarantee you that This will pop up in the next two weeks. Someone will actually investigate this angle for sure. So I'm so again, I'm looking for who benefits I'm trying to figure out who is going to benefit from from this and of course the news media benefits

13:31 Because they can pull all kinds of stuff out of their butt like on ABC this morning I want to go to Brian Ross here because right you've been looking at investigating the background of Jim Holmes here You found something that might be significant. There's a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Tea Party site as well About him joining the Tea Party last year now. We don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes, but it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado Right so they later had to retract that one Yeah, yeah 62 yeah, they had to they had to retract that one. We're so sorry they say that was incorrect Yeah, but they didn't do any yet smirching the tea party they yeah, yeah, that was good

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

Piers Morgan, University of Denver Professor Debate

A University of Denver professor challenged Piers Morgan on CNN regarding the timing of the gun control debate following the Aurora tragedy. The guest accused the network of using the tragedy to drive advertising revenue and commercial sales, leading to a tense exchange. The segment highlights the conflict between emotional media narratives and calls for factual deliberation.

piers morgan· cnn· university of denver· gun control· advertising revenue

14:16 So then we have now Pierce Morgan had a an interesting conversation. He had a professor on from Denver Is it Denver College Denver State University? Is it professor from Denver State? No, not Denver State. Some like University of Denver probably and this guy actually owned school by the way, so this guy is You know, he's basically saying to Piers Morgan like dude, you know, well, you know We can talk about the gun debate in a couple of days Let's find out what really happened first because we don't know the guy was actually making some sense and I think put Piers Morgan in his place and

14:57 But he made a seminal mistake of being a guest on a television talk show and bringing up the A-word. Let me challenge you on what you've just said. A lot of people have said that today. A lot of people who don't want strengthening gun control have said, this is not the day to debate it. I tell you the day to debate it, it would have been yesterday. Good line by the way from Peter S. Morgan. Yeah, it is a good line. It's a good line. It's a good line. That was not coming out. That was not an ad lib line. You can tell the way he did it. No, no, no. He was ready for that one. It's happening. When you have a young man like this able to legally get 6,000 rounds of ammunition off the internet to buy four weapons, including an assault rifle,

15:36 and for all of this to be perfectly legal in modern america allowing him to carry out the biggest shooting in the history of the united states no that i'm afraid no it was not the biggest shooting in the history this is also this is a meme i've been hearing it's just not true means it's too late for this debate for those people that lost their lives so don't patronize me about when we should be talking about the gun control debate you tell me a good reason why we should not strengthen the law now to stop another young man like him going into a store tomorrow buying four more weapons, 6,000 rounds of ammunition on the internet and killing and shooting another 70 people in America.

16:18 So, so he, did he shoot off 6,000 rounds? I don't think so. Listen to the guy's response. Because we don't even know the full facts of this situation yet, and that's another reason it would have been prudent for you to wait a few days where we know more about this. Nobody's been able to come up with any proposal specific about the facts of this case, partly because the facts are still being developed. And I know, Andrew, you've said many times on the air, America's got too many guns. You want to drastically reduce the number of guns. So if your whole point is there's too many guns, we've got to get rid of lots of them, drastically constrict things, and you think somehow that's going to make it better, well, there's no real evidence that it will. If you want to talk about specific reforms that might involve this specific guy,

16:58 and prevent future people like him that's fine but let's wait till we find out the information instead of rushing this country into this pro-com thing that I know sells a lot of commercials on TV but it's inappropriately divisive now. Nobody's stopping you from having the segment on Wednesday can you give people a little bit of breathing room? Okay you've made your point on that let's move to Dan Grose He brought up the advertising word bad. Yeah, he did that. So that's the way to get cut off because obviously CNN. That's a good one. Good catch. That's a great catch. Yes. He brought the advertising word. Yeah. CNN. Oh, come on, you stupid trackpad. CNN obviously benefits from from all of this. A couple of data points just for our analysis on the 17th of May 2012. So what is that like?

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

DHS Theater Attack Prediction, Domestic Terrorism Labeling

A May 2012 Department of Homeland Security report is cited, which predicted potential terrorist interest in attacking U.S. movie theaters following a bombing in Somalia. Discrepancies in early police reports from Aurora are discussed, including mentions of a second suspect and eyewitness accounts of multiple individuals working in tandem. A New York police expert's use of the term "domestic terrorism" is also noted.

department of homeland security· somalia· domestic terrorism· aurora police· eyewitness accounts

17:47 Two months ago? A report from the Department of Homeland Security and they say here, in early April 2012, Sousse had bombing of a theater in Somalia and a violent extremist communication advocating attacks on US theaters highlight terrorist continued interest in attacking such venues. So interesting how only two months ago the Department of Homeland Security predicted that this could happen. And you should note that it was a terrorist, or not a terrorist, but a similar attack in a theater in Australia that resulted in extreme gun control laws being passed there. Yes. So then there was this little, you know, because there's this whole thing about, well actually here's the ABC report, that the guy did not act alone, which seems to be cropping up more this morning.

18:39 on a breaking story out of Aurora, Colorado this morning. A very scary... This is an initial report by the way. ...situation of suburban Denver movie theater. Apparently there has been a mass shooting. What we're hearing from the police so far, there are a number of casualties in this matter already. Yes, the Aurora police have confirmed with ABC News 20 injuries, 10 confirmed dead that we know of right now. One suspect has been taken into custody believes that there's one more suspect that is on the loose again this was at the premiere of the dark knight returns the new batman movie so they're talking about another suspect there's tons of uh of reports eyewitness reports about there being two people who worked in tandem and then on uh sean hannity

19:19 The woman being, there's two people being interviewed who of course were eyewitnesses and she makes a very interesting gaffe. To help under very difficult circumstances, where were you sitting Brittany? We were in the top right about five rows from the top. We were on the right hand of the staircase. where there's only like two seats. Yeah. So we have like a direct view of where the camera guy, or where the, excuse me, where the shooter was standing. And Kevin, what are the original... The camera guy? I mean the shooter. The camera guy. Wow. Yeah. I got some gaffes too, but since you're on this track, play my clip. This is a speculative clip that was played after the incident on Fox, but it was some New York expert, some New York cop, and the

20:06 Clip is down the middle called shooter part of a sect. I think based on the fact pattern, I think you can prosecute the case, you know, as far as making an argument whether, you know, he's sane or not. That's a whole other issue. I think pretty much he's guilty as charged. What I was trying to point out in the apartment was there's other evidence that could be inside those hard drives, inside a capture tool like an iPod or an iPhone, that might lead us to other members I don't know. Maybe he has a sec. Maybe there is he has accomplices. Maybe there's a plan to carry out further Terrorists domestic terrorism, we don't know so you know if we do a quick blast in there even with a quick put out We could lose that evidence. They might have to do it. I don't know that's not a decision for me to make I know Dan Oates. He was a chief here in the NYPD. It's very accomplished guy is more than up to the task but

21:06 Okay Domestic he dropped a domestic terrorist bomb yes. He did now the sect it could be others. It's gonna happen We got to do something about it. You know anything is possible and by the way I thought it was an interesting little wordage that he's called these like an iPhone and a Capture device capture tool capture tool yeah hmm. Yeah, well because again. I guess it police lingo. Yeah so the only Real benefit and you know first of all so you know there's all these interesting little tidbits We're learning if true or not. We don't know yet about this guy being a neuroscience Doctorate genius he's a genius So that of course will you know sparks the MK ultra? you know how does a dropout out of work and

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

UN Small Arms Transfer Treaty, Hillary Clinton

The United Nations Small Arms Transfer Treaty, discussed in New York in July 2012, is identified as a potential beneficiary of the Aurora shooting narrative. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's support for international arms transfer controls is framed as a move toward a global registry and the eventual disarmament of private citizens. The timing of the treaty discussions relative to the shooting is highlighted as significant.

united nations· small arms treaty· hillary clinton· global registry· disarmament

21:53 College student get you know about $20,000 to purchase This arsenal this armory this entire thousand rounds cash I got a couple thousand here. I mean, it's not like it. You know it adds up pretty quick I have a couple thousand rounds of BBs yeah, I Now, the only thing that could make sense is that this could be a State Department operation. And of course, you know my love for Lucifer, Clippity-Clop, Hillary Clinton. As only two weeks ago, the United Nations started, you know, we have a number of treaties that are back on the books, one being the Law of the Sea Treaty, which is

22:35 You know, they keep trying to push that through the Senate. But the United Nations Small Arms Transfer Treaty was discussed just two weeks ago at the United Nations in New York. This one's been around for a long time. And if you read the document, it essentially calls for two things, a global registry of private ownership of firearms. and ultimately the abolishment of citizens owning firearms. And that the only entity that should own any type of weaponry would, of course, be the Global Police Force of the United Nations. So now this has been, wow, this treaty has been ongoing since I have the documents here. It's from the UNODA, the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs, disarmament of the population. And let me just say this started in 1982.

23:34 when this office was established and they've been trying to push this small arms treaty through for many many years and Just looking at all the other treaties, you know the rights of the children treaty where you know You can't get a divorce without permission from your children all this crazy stuff. You can't move without permission from your children the law of the sea treaty which the way I see it absolutely gives up sovereignty and And now we have this and just a coincidence of this starting up only two weeks ago in New York and having Hillary Clinton saying, and I quote, conventional arms transfers are a crucial national security concern for the United States. We've always supported effective action to control the international transfer of arms, which is code for citizens buying guns.

24:22 She boasted, quote, the United States regularly engages other states to raise their standards and to prohibit the transfer or transshipment of capabilities to rogue states, terrorist groups, and groups seeking to unsettle regions, which could, of course, be just the region of Colorado if you if you look at it that way. So they clearly benefit. But of course, the the benefit to People who want to move forward any type of agenda, which is perfect for them and it's a slow It's a slow news month The CNN can use the ratings the advertisers love by the way CNN could really use the ratings the advertisers love it And I think that Bill Moyer now the Bill Moyer Journal is on PBS. I believe is it not yep he

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Bill Moyers Gun Control Commentary, NRA Criticism

Journalist Bill Moyers delivered a commentary on PBS criticizing the National Rifle Association and its executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre. Moyers linked the Aurora shooting to historical American violence, including slavery and the Oregon Trail, claiming more settlers died from accidental gunshots than Indian attacks. He also referenced an Al-Qaeda member's video about the ease of purchasing firearms at American gun shows.

bill moyers· nra· wayne lapierre· virginia tech· oregon trail· al-qaeda

25:16 Had a like a statement like one of these op-ed statements a little bit on the long side, but I'd like to play this and you and I just Deconstruct this because he I mean if you could take a bucket and throw everything in there Like anti-gun racism terrorism and by the way have no facts Bill Moyer did it and it was I just sat there with my mouth a gape going, oh my god, I can't believe all the things he is saying in relation to this shooting. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of and spokesman for the mighty American gun lobby, the National Rifle Association, has an almost cosmic sense of timing. In 2007, at the NRA's annual convention in St. Louis, he warned the crowd that today there is not one firearm owner whose freedom is secure.

26:12 Two days later, a young man opened fire on the campus of Virginia Tech, killing 32 students, staff and teachers. Now, listen to this. Just last week, LaPierre showed up at the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty here in New York and spoke out against what he called anti-freedom policies that disregard American citizens' right to self-defense. Now, at least 12 are dead in Aurora, Colorado. Gunned down by a madman at a showing of the new Batman movie. A madman? I just want you to know, it's a madman movie filled with make-believe violence. Make-believe violence. One of the guns the shooter used was an AK-47 type assault weapon. Oh, hello! Hello! AK-47 type assault weapon?

26:59 I'm sorry. That's that is not true. It's not an AK-47 An AK-47 is a machine gun. This is not a This is another one of those means it's bothersome. Yeah, it's sold as an AK-47 this gun. No, it's not Yeah, it is you can go to the store and get an AK-47, but it's not it's just designed not to be system. It's Manufactured be semi-automatic was banned in 1994 The National Rifle Association saw to it that the ban expired in 2004. No, Congress saw to it that the ban expired.

27:40 Who did he say? The National Rifle Association. Do they run in the country? I didn't know that. Yeah, apparently. The NRA is the best friend the killer's instinct ever had. That's great. It's good, isn't it? There's more. Obviously, it's good. There's more. There's more. LaPierre's timing isn't cosmic, just coincidental. As Shakespeare famously wrote, the fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves. In other words, people people with guns. So how did Shakespeare write about people with guns all of a sudden? Wow. This is good, right? This is really, this guy is a, uh, I've,

28:19 I kind of admire the fact that he gets all these hot shots to talk to him, but he is one of the most amazing propagandists. He gave a speech to, which I've always been wanting to clip and just condemn, a speech to an independent journalist group, some sort of a, kind of this, one of these little offshoot journalists who do a lot of left-wing journalist organization. And it was, and it was like, it was just, Bull crap. I mean he was just saying things that was just as though he's very lopsided in his approach to things, let's put it that way. Not like us. But here comes more. There are an estimated 300 million guns in the United States. One in four adult Americans owns at least one and most of them are men.

29:03 Sorry, 52% of all new gun purchases are purchased by women. So that is a blatant lie. I happen to know these statistics because one of our knights has shared them with me who runs a couple gun stores. So that's just a lie. The British newspaper, The Guardian, reminds us that over the last 30 years, the number of states with a law that automatically approves licenses to carry concealed weapons provided an applicant clears a criminal background check has risen from 8 to 38. I'm not quite sure what that means exactly, what he's saying there. They automatically

29:42 approve a concealed carry permit if you pass a background check. I don't think that is true. No, no, I think it is. I think that you... In Washington State you can do that. I can go get a concealed carry permit in Washington State rather effortlessly just the way described and then I can take that permit to California and show it to somebody and they'd give me one here. It's not that hard. Well in Texas we have to follow a course. I thought you could just carry in Texas. No, no, no, no. You have to follow a 10-hour course. Oh, that's actually a good idea. Yeah, I think it's a great idea because the course teaches you how to... Gun safety. Yeah, gun safety. And so I don't think that's...

30:22 entirely accurate but I could be wrong every year there are 30,000 gun deaths and 300,000 gun-related assaults how many car deaths are there I think you're something in the line is 50,000 or more car deaths yeah oh yeah sure yes firearm violence may cost our country as much as what we should ban cars yeah 100 billion dollars a year toys are regulated with greater care and safety concerns than guns. Okay, so now let's get into it. Let's bring in a couple more things here. So, why do we always act so surprised? Violence is our alter ego, wired into our stone age brains so...

31:05 I love, this guy is awesome. It's toxic eruptions, no longer shock except... So I guess if we don't have guns then that stone age hardwired killing mechanism will go away. Hold on a second, he said, can you back it up just about 10 seconds? Yeah of course, hold on a second. Safety concerns, then guns. So why do we always act so surprised? Violence is our alter ego, wired into our stone age brains, so intrinsic, its toxic eruptions no longer shock, except momentarily, when we hear of a mass shooting like this latest in Colorado. But this too will pass.

31:50 Alright, I thought he was saying something differently, but yeah, okay. But what he's saying makes no sense. The whole thing is gobbledygook. It's well presented, I mean, come on. Especially if you're amenable to that pitch. Yeah, well wait until you hear the rest of his pitch. He's got more pitches, he's got more. The nation of the short attention span will quickly find the next thing to divert us from the hard realities. Well, duh, yeah, of course. Of America in 2012. We are, after all, a country which began with the forced subjugation into slavery of millions of Africans. Well, let's bring the slaves in. Okay, let's bring some racism in. Now, this is great. And the reliance on arms against Native Americans for its westward expansion. In truth, more settlers traveling the Oregon Trail died from accidental, self-inflicted gunshot wounds than from Indian attacks. This is news to me! So the settlers on the Oregon Trail

32:49 Where does this statistic come from? I don't know, but it turns out that... It's not a statistic anyone would have ever made. They were all shooting themselves accidentally. Accidentally. More than Indians killed settlers. That is a great piece of history. Of course, the Oregon Trail was not a trail beset by a lot of wild Indians trying to kill people. So there's that. Yeah, there's that thing. Well, that's how you make up a great statistic. Yeah, because it just sounds like, oh, wow, the organ transit doubled from one to two. We were not only bloodthirsty, we were also inept. We're idiots. We want to thirsty idiots, bloodthirsty. Oh, shot me. Self-indulgent. Nonetheless, we've become so gun loving, so blase about homegrown violence that in my lifetime alone,

33:41 Far more Americans have been casualties of domestic gunfire than have died in all our wars combined. In Arizona last year, just days... I guess he forgot to count the Iraqis somehow. I'm sure he also forgot to count the Civil War Iraqis. After the Gabby Giffords shooting, sales of the weapon used in the slaughter, a 9mm Glock semi-automatic pistol, double. Yep, there it is. The Glock is 9mm, the most popular gun in the world. If they sales doubled in Arizona. Yeah, sure. That the law could allow even an inflamed lunatic to easily acquire murderous weapons and not expect murderous consequences?

34:23 fooling ourselves that the second amendment's guarantee of a well-regulated militia be construed as a god-given right to purchase and own just about any weapon of destruction. That's very interesting here. So he omits a piece of the second amendment and he only says the well-regulated militia, but he leaves out the part about the right to keep and bear arms, which is kind of unfair of him to do. You're lying. That's a license for murder, murder, murder, mayhem, mayhem, and it's a great fraud that has entered our history.

34:59 There's a video of which I'd like to remind you. You can see it on YouTube. In it, Adam Gadon, an American-born member of Al-Qaeda, the first US citizen charged with treason since 1952, urges terrorists to carry out attacks on the United States. He says, America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. you can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for? I don't know, what are we waiting for? Maybe I don't want to spend that kind of money, these things aren't cheap. So he goes from a madman buying 6,000 rounds on the internet to

35:49 Well, you know, guns are bad because we shoot ourselves, we're so stupid, when we're on the Oregon Trail, and, you know, terrorists can buy guns. What are we waiting for? The killer in Colorado waited only for an opportunity. Nice alliteration, by the way. The killer in Colorado. And there you have it, the arsenal of democracy transformed into the arsenal of death. And the inner... That's enough, let's kill this guy. Now, a couple of things. One, he's preaching to the choir, this guy. Nobody watches him. Except now everyone in No Agenda has heard him. So I don't think it's a big deal. I think the more onerous kinds of guys... I have two clips.

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Dr. Michael Welner, CBS 48 Hours Psychology Analysis

Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Michael Welner appeared on a CBS 48 Hours special to provide a psychological profile of mass shooters, describing them as "losers" and "rejects" who seek notoriety through destruction. The segment is analyzed for its high production value and rehearsed nature. The hosts dispute Welner's theories regarding the sublimation of weakness in American males.

michael welner· cbs news· forensic psychiatry· mass shooter psychology· masculinity

36:32 that were done on CBS and I've never seen anything quite like this. I've never heard of this guy before, he's extremely well rehearsed. The guy's name is Welner. And I've got two clips from... This was done on the 48-hour show that was thrown together for the weekend and I've never seen an interview with a guy. He's talking off camera to somebody and it's a two-camera shoot. I have never seen an interview like this with a two-camera shoot. And I know the difference between a two-camera shoot and a guy who shoots B-roll. This is a two-camera shoot on this guy. So this is not a cheap thing, and he is extremely well lit, and his patter is unbelievably rehearsed. So we can start with the beginning, Wellner two-camera shoot, part one. The motive, experts say, is always the same. How can I kill a lot of people?

37:24 How can I do it in a shocking way where people will talk about me? My notoriety, my desire to be somebody can only be achieved by spectacular destruction. Okay, so he starts off with this and they bring him back with the most amazing, this guy's supposed to be a psychologist or something. He comes back with the most amazing taunting of everybody out there who's ever thinking of doing this sort of thing. Condemning this kid, and of course we don't even know any of the real story because it's all, you know, the guy's in solitary confinement, they set up shop in some high school, which is very sketchy. But now listen to this guy going off the deep end. In school. No, not at the time, it was just totally standardly normal.

38:14 if anything a little bit forgettable. Forgettable to pretty much everyone. Was he a ladies man in school? No, not particularly. I never saw him with any girls. He didn't really talk about any girls. I don't know if any girls really talked about him that much. And Dr. Wellner says that fits the pattern of most mass shooters. Sexual relationships, they're incompetent. Their dating history, their sexual history, it's a source of embarrassment to them. What replaces it for them is destructiveness. Their reason for living becomes their plan to kill. It's someone who is a loser, who is a reject, who is resentful, who suddenly found purpose. And so they become absorbed in it, they become passionate about it, so it becomes something that the mass shooter can mobilize around and they do it with great vigor because they identify

39:10 masculinity and themselves with destruction. Now I will say that there is absolutely the typical American male, like I can't speak on behalf of males worldwide, but there is this thing about, you know, tattoos, pumping up at the gym, get a big muscle car, get a Harley, drive around with that without a helmet. These are all surrogates for being a real man. But when it comes down to it,

39:54 You know, I'm not buying that either. These aren't surrogates or anything. These are peer group milieus and people are part of many of them and that can be in the gay community. And there's some of that. Well I'm talking about the gay community. What are you talking about? Just because you're gay doesn't mean that you're not a macho man. Well, no I say there are parts of the gay community that are they're all pumped up They're bigger than most people you can imagine and then there's others that are not I mean that these are all mil use this isn't any sort of deep-seated American thing that you like you like to describe it so you isolate as an American methodology for some sort of sublimation of Weakness or crap what you just said you don't get out of the house. Oh

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Range Rover Repairs

The show acknowledges significant donations from Eponymous in Queensland, Australia, and Dame Astrid Klein in Tokyo. The contributors discuss the "Australia tax" on PayPal and offer well-wishes for host Adam Curry's recent wedding. Banter ensues regarding the use of funds for maintaining a 1999 Range Rover.

eponymous· astrid klein· tokyo· queensland· range rover· paypal

40:37 You just said it yourself. I get out of the house. I'm walking around. I see it. Well, you're also in Texas, by the way. Hey, but I've lived in different places. All right. We can we can agree to disagree on that. All right. All right. Okay, a couple of things. Let's do our thing, a couple of executive producers and then we'll get into some of our theories of what this is. I have a theory that I think is a little crackpotty. And then we got to move off because there's a lot of other stuff that this has been covering up, obviously. Yeah, there's been a few. But let's thank a couple of executive producers. We actually have two executive producers and one associate. Curiously, the two executive producers both gave us $1,000 each. Wow! Wow! Eponymous in Beshmir, Queensland. Oh, Australia.

41:29 You guys really cheesed me off. I always knew I was being lied to. I didn't know how openly it was being done, like to my face as if I'm an idiot. Thanks a bunch for pointing this out. I question your parentage, the both of you. You deserve everything you get. So this is to make up for being a boner for the last six months. Plus, Pay non-pals 1% Australia tax. I think the administration heard Australia was your second biggest donor and leaned on them Chicago style. Please send karma to my new job and some screw cancer karma for my dad eponymous the beached knight. Wait a minute so Australia has an extra 1% surcharge on PayPal donations? Apparently. Really what a bunch of douchebags. Yeah no kidding. You've got karma.

42:10 Wow, thank you eponymous. That's very nice and I'll explain why in a moment because this comes at the right moment. And then our friend Dame Astrid Klein in Tokyo comes in. The beautiful Dame Astrid for the thousand dollars. Happy wedding, happy ever after to you and Mickey. Please spend the donation on something you both love, i.e. John and not Range Rover repair. Yeah, then there's that, unfortunately, Dame Astrid. I mean, what else do you think we use the money for? Range Rover repair! You are such solid rocks in our lives, so yeah, ever-changing slash exactly the same, love ya baby. Waiting for your Hot Pocket store to get Mo'Nation's sushi, Dame Astrid and Sir Gin Tonic-fueled Mark.

42:57 Our Range Rover is doing just fine in the sweltering Tokyo heat, but I guess it's getting some true British love from its driver. Well, I'd like to point out our Range Rover is from 1999. It's older than some people who listen to the show. So, this... Daymaster, that's very, very kind of you. Thank you so much and loving kisses to you from me and Ms. Mickey. That's lovely. And finally, our Associate Executive Producer, Sir Gene Naftulia of Infresco, Texas. $202. I'd like to give Mimi a big thank you and a shot of Karma because he got his ring. I'm looking forward to trying her foodie suggestions in Victoria next week. Okay, does she send those out with the rings these days? I think he asked. He's on his way to Victoria, Canada, which is one of the prettiest places in the world. I recommend it to anyone who's touring in that Pacific Northwest.

43:50 Anyway, I want to thank them and all the other donors we'll talk about later. Remind you to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA, and the NOAgenda show.com, NOAgendaNation.com. Click the donate button and keep us doing this. And we have two PR mentions that I need to bring to you. There's a band out there, actually played one of their songs this morning on the pre-stream. Name is Free Fall Effect. And they've put out an EP, it's called the No Agenda EP. So EP is extended play, which means there's five tracks on it, it's not quite an album. It's...

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Free Fall Effect EP, No Agenda Radio App Updates

The band Free Fall Effect released a "No Agenda EP" and pledged all proceeds to the show. Additionally, updates to the No Agenda Radio app in the iTunes App Store are announced, featuring new artwork, a calendar, iCloud integration for playback position, and chat functionality for listeners.

free fall effect· itunes· app store· icloud· podcast app

44:32 It's just a couple of tracks and they give us full credit here free falls message is simple and clear things are not as they seem and truth is not being disseminated disseminated to the masses They hope these tunes will shed some light on this simple truth and cause listeners to stop and think They are donating all proceeds to the no agenda show a podcast hosted by former MTV VJ Adam Curry and tech columnist and former tech TV host John C. Dvorak The band feels this podcast does the finest job of deconstructing the issues of today and the media's negative influence therein So you can go to free fall effect calm and here's just a little taste of what they do I'll play at 15 seconds here. Just to get the idea We must make it

45:21 The lyrics are great by the way on all these songs. I listen to it so go ahead and pick up your copy of the Freefall Effect EP and then a note from our producer who makes the No Agenda Radio app in the iTunes App Store. He sent me a note. Lots of improvements. So you might want to upgrade. Let's see the improvements are beautiful artwork on radio streaming screen. Includes calendar feature to see the stream schedule. Recent show screen to listen to the 100 most recent No Agenda shows. Recent show player features 30 second skip, 10 second rewind. iCloud integration to save your position in a recorded episode. That's a great one by the way.

46:02 You know, so you're listening and then you get interrupted or whatever and you want to go back and it picks up where you stop listening. Push notification to let you know when a new recording episode is ready. New juice for you. No agenda news network integration. No agenda chat integration. So you can chat with no agenda listeners and fans without leaving the app. link in the show notes at 428.nashownotes.com and indeed we'd love for you to donate as an executive producer or an associate executive producer to vorac.org slash n a and unlike the phonies in Hollywood we will actually vouch for your official credit as given you can always go out and propagate the formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth order shut up wait

47:03 We got a drunken Japanese shut-up slave in on the emails today, John. Here it is. Okay. Apparently that's shut-up slave in Japanese. If you're drunk, it's funnier if it's kids though. We want it to be kids some kids or something funny about the kids Yeah, there's always something funny about the kids. I I made a decision People who listen to this program know that we don't have We don't had we don't do meetings in fact. We never speak with each other except during the program itself Because you know we're scheduled to kick off the hot pockets 2009 tour on Saturday

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Hot Pockets 2009 Tour, Austin and Dallas Meetups

Adam Curry and his wife, Ms. Mickey, rented a 20-foot MicroLite trailer for the "Hot Pockets 2009" tour. Kickoff events are scheduled for July 20th at the Cherrywood Coffeehouse in Austin, followed by a "Dallas Slaves" meetup hosted by producer Dave Cost. The tour route includes Kansas, Colorado, and a planned stop in Boise, Idaho.

hot pockets tour· route 620· austin· dallas· boise· cherrywood coffeehouse

47:46 And it's becoming very difficult to leave on the Hot Pockets tour without a trailer. Which has just not materialized. Very disappointing, but I guess that's it. So, Ms. Mickey and I made an executive decision on behalf of the board and management of the No Agenda Show, the greatest podcast in the universe. And we went down the road on Route 620 and we rented a trailer. for the three week tour. It's a shame. It is a shame. Now, of course, to keep costs low, we did we did get a good deal. I miss Mickey like she got someone at the gym and some guy or whatever. And so we got all kinds of deals and we paying cash and we get more. We get even more discount.

48:33 It is $95 a day is and that's the cheapest we could get it is a micro light trailer 20-foot trailer one sleeping berth with a queen-size bed You know it has a toilet a little kitchen, so it's basically it is a hot pocket essentially It's just one hit one. It's a box a box on wheels But the the pickup truck can can pull it pretty effortlessly effortlessly It doesn't even need the the brake controller hookup because it's so light So you can calculate what three weeks is going to cost us, and I think we're probably gonna give out five miles

49:13 To the gallon. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's going to be similar to the RV. That's just, you know, drag and weight. Yeah, but you can do a good thing about that. You can go to a trailer park, drop the trailer off and then drive the truck around, which is exactly why we're not doing the RV on this year's tour. Right. And so I need to announce our kickoff party, which will start this, the Austin kickoff party in the morning. That'll be Saturday, July 20th in the morning. Yes. In the morning, 10 a.m. And there's links in the show notes. It's going to be at the Cherrywood Coffeehouse and you want to RSVP to Mike Malaro, our local producer. He produced the previous meetup in Austin as well. So we're going to kind of have like a late breakfast and a send-off and then we will drive to Dallas.

50:00 Where cuz you know we're gonna go up north where Dave costs producer of the show will be hosting the no agenda Dallas slaves meetup and all of the links in the in the show notes, you know of course as miss Mickey so everything's on the the space book page itm. I am slash tour o9 And we look forward to having a good crowd in Dallas and a great crowd in Austin. And from there, we have no other places to stay or any meetups arranged. But we will be going through Kansas and then making our way over to Colorado. So that'll be the Hot Pockets 2009 tour. We're looking forward to seeing everybody out there on the road. I think it's going to be a little less than last year just because of the population is less dense.

50:49 the states that we're going to but we're pretty sure that you know that there'll be people who want to hook up and meet up and at least we hope so otherwise we'll be staying in national parks screw y'all it's not that many national I actually go to Colorado what Colorado's got a couple Wyoming's got some but you want to go to the Grand Tetons the Grand Tetons yeah where's that It's up in, I think it's up in, toward Wyoming. Maybe it's in the corner of Wyoming or Idaho, something like that. The Grand Teton National Park. And the town there, I can't remember the name, the chat room probably knows, it's just dynamite. It's just a great, great little place. And on the way back, so we want to go up to, we want to hit Montaigne. You might as well go to Yellowstone while you're up. You gonna do that? You know, I'm not in charge of this. All I do is I make sure the studio works. Oh, Mickey should know to go to Yellowstone. Mickey's in charge.

51:41 And on the way down, we're going to do a hopefully a big meetup in Boise, which should be fun because Boise is kind of like a like our town, I think. Boise, Boise. Yeah, Boise, Boise. Your town. Yeah. Yeah. It's like like we have one donor from Boise. Yeah, we do. Well, yes, we do. You know who lives there is Chris Breshears. He's going to set up the Boise meetup. Remember, Chris? Yeah. Was he giving us anything? You're such a douche. Sorry. He does all kinds of stuff for us. He doesn't even listen to the show. Who cares? He loves us. He listens to the show. He does. So that is your update on the Hot Pockets. There you go. Well, it sounds like it's going to be fun for you.

52:31 You get to see some crazy, crazy stuff. Well, it's an old radio trick, you know, when times are slow during the summer, you take the show on the road. We have to do things by remote. And I've actually ordered a couple of bits and bobs for gear since we don't have to travel, so I'd like not to do it just all on the laptop setup. So I got a little mini mixer and a couple other things so we can hopefully have a decent sound. But of course, invariably it will suck somewhere. One of our shows will, one or more of our shows will suck due to bandwidth limitations, but you know, we'll take that as it comes. And it's always good because you go to these different towns and you learn things. You learn things you never heard about before and people have all kinds of interesting information and it's very exciting. And it is the best honeymoon we can think of, is to share that with you. Not you, John, but with the listeners.

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

FBI Special Agent James Yacone, Denver Counter-Terrorism

Special Agent James Yacone, a high-level counter-terrorism official, was recently moved from Washington D.C. to lead the FBI's Denver division. Yacone's presence in Denver during the Aurora shooting is scrutinized, specifically his oversight of domestic terrorism squads and the integration of local police with federal clearances.

james yacone· fbi· denver· domestic terrorism· joint terrorism task force

53:26 Okay So can we let's wrap this up? I have about five clips. I want to play and I have my own thesis on this okay First of all I think this is a dress rehearsal for something else. I'll buy that right off the bat And the reason is because, and I don't think anybody, I don't know who's behind it and I don't think any of the players, in other words the law enforcement people or anybody like that are in on it necessarily. They're just playing their roles. And the more interesting guy that's doing this is James Yacone, special agent in charge, just moved. One of the most important counter-terrorism guys in Washington D.C. was moved to Denver.

54:04 About a year ago, and he had since made some commentary. In fact, just a week ago he was on a video that the FBI released, which I have a copy of. It was in that second email that we can listen to. It was actually disappeared from the site, but it was attached to one of the press releases and I found it. And this is, do you have that second? Yeah, the special video, is that the name of it? Yeah, that one. This is Yacone in Denver who is, let me read from his Denver division of the FBI's website. Named special agent in charge of the FBI's Denver division by Mueller. Yacone was most recently served as a section chief in the critical incident response group.

54:41 which involved direct management and oversight of the FBI's national tactical program, crisis negotiation, and a variety of mobility and crisis response assets. So coincidentally, you know, being brought back from the East Coast, they drop him in Denver where this all happens and he shows up on every other newscast as a spokesperson kind of running things. Coincidence? I think not! Joint Terrorism Task Forces are very active, not just from an international terrorism perspective, but also a domestic terrorism perspective. We actually have three Joint Terrorism Task Force squads focused on international terrorism and then one specific squad here focused on domestic terrorism. And it works well. I mean, all of the local and state police officers and detectives have the same clearances that the agents do. They sit side by side.

55:38 And the way we work it is if that agency has a terrorism matter occur in their area of responsibility, that local or state agency, that local or state officer will work jointly with an FBI agent as a case agent on that case. So he specifically said that the domestic terrorism office is his in Denver. And this does of course tie into the Department of Homeland Security, where they buy like 400 million rounds of hollow point bullets. I mean, they are definitely ready for unrest.

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Aurora Police Response, High School Command Center

The rapid 90-second police response to the Aurora theater shooting and the subsequent establishment of a command center at a local high school are questioned. The necessity of a massive staging area after the suspect was already in custody is presented as a potential procedural anomaly or "dress rehearsal" for larger civil unrest.

aurora police· gateway high school· command center· emergency response

56:19 So there's a, so I think that they're looking at, they're gonna deconstruct what happened and they're gonna find the mistakes. And these are the botches that we've spotted. And I think that these things are gonna all be cleared up. So if there ever is an incident that is staged in a big way, it will not have all these gaffes. Like this particular thing had lots of gaffes. Like why did the guy walk back to his car? Why did he run back to his car and take off? Why were the cops waiting for him immediately? response at 1230 in the morning is not necessarily that good. Like 90 seconds right? They were right there and then they're grabbing the guy and he's not given any resistance and then they set up a high school which I actually have a clip of it's a I think it's this long PBS News Hour there's a very long clip I actually don't want to play it I'll just explain it. They took one of the high schools and turned it into a command center. Right.

57:10 The next day were they having all this this activity and I'm thinking what you just arrested the guy Why do you have this command center? So I started looking for these for these kinds of egregious mistakes that are made particularly by the actors that are that were in involved with their with the discussion, you know the people that were crying and some of these other people that seem seem to Many of them seem fake The way they said things seemed like acting I heard one guy say that he was crawling on the ground But his he had burned marks on his legs, which we haven't seen from the shells From the from the shooter yeah, I've heard that somebody else so was he standing right over him or you know cuz shells don't propel forward they Side yeah

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Alex Sullivan Twitter Analysis, Victim Discrepancies

**category:** news_update | **keywords:** alex sullivan, twitter, foursquare, aurora victim, social media The social media activity of Aurora victim Alex Sullivan is examined, noting a sudden shift from automated Foursquare check-ins to manual tweets just before the shooting. Discrepancies in his reported plans for the evening and the lack of interactive replies on his Twitter feed are highlighted as "sketchy" elements of the official narrative.

58:01 So let me play a couple of these that just got my attention. Let's start with one guy, and I also think this could have been an assassination for all we know of one of the many, including one guy that's completely out of place, who's an older guy, but I couldn't find any background on anyone that would indicate that they had any connection to anything that would want them to get assassinated. But one guy who kept cropping up in the news was Alex Sullivan, who also had the father, prepped this guy, his father was screaming and holding his picture and he was like very animated and Sullivan was killed and Sullivan was also mentioned by one of the woman that was in the army in the hospital she had gone out with five friends including him to the movie even though Sullivan was supposedly married I didn't notice his wife was involved in this at all she didn't go I don't know why he's hanging out with these other girls for but play the Alex is dead and I want to mention something where you know we've always spotted when we see these things you always end up with

58:59 It looks like planted evidence after the fact, things that show up that don't make any sense. Like all of a sudden a Facebook page will show up or something crazy. Well play this and I have a little angle on that. On his 27th birthday, Alex Sullivan had much to celebrate. His coming one year wedding anniversary. And from the Batman premiere he tweeted, Oh man, one hour till the movie and it's gonna be the best birthday ever. Then came the chaos. His desperate father Tom captured in this picture hunted for word.

59:38 Call me! Fire my son, call me! Late last night, the worst news possible, Alex was dead. Okay, so I thought this was interesting and I checked out that they showed a Facebook tweet, or I'm sorry, a Twitter tweet on the screen, but they didn't have the at. you know, it was just the guy's name, which is bullcrap. That's not where they normally play him. Usually on TV they show the guy's name and then his, like, at on his real name. Oh yeah, his, I mean, his Twitter. His Twitter name. Yeah. So you could find it. It was Sully300, I believe. I don't have in front of me right now. But anyway, he had essentially not tweeted ever until, until like the last month or so. All his tweets, and there's hundreds of them, hundreds of tweets with him and a couple of other people,

1:00:30 uh... the hundred tenor to tweets are all four square re retweets their he's on four square apparently checking in everywhere and it when he goes to work he checks in when he goes a restaurant he checks is checking in for months and months on and all of a sudden he's actually starts writing tweets many of them are to somebody But when you could, but I don't know if they know this or not, or if somebody's planning these or planted these. When you click on, this is an update that took place maybe six months ago, when you click on the box that the tweet comes in, it shows you where, what references it and what references to it. So if I tweet you, it gives you, yeah, yeah, well, I'm just explaining to people that don't.

1:01:09 But anyway, so you should be able to, so he's if he's saying something to someone I should be able to click on that and see what that someone said to him. In no instance does this ever happen. These are just blind tweets and they finally show up and curiously the one before he says this is going to be my greatest birthday ever, he says he's not going to the movie. Okay, so this whole thing looked like it was this Twitter thing and this thing they brought up this this it just seems sketchy and and a lot of this seems sketchy when you start listening and playing some of these these Some of these clips that you run into and like the mom turning on the son I thought was weird. Yeah where she says, uh, yeah you guys play mom turns on son. It's quick. You got the right guy. Yeah, exactly. Ask your patience, indulgence and respect at this time. When his mother Arlene was told of his arrest, she reportedly said you have the right person. Here's what else we've learned about the alleged shoot. Yeah. Oh, but my problem is

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Aurora Neighbor Interviews, Scripting Errors

Several media interviews with Aurora residents are analyzed for inconsistencies. These include a student shot through a wall in an adjacent theater and a neighbor, Yesenia Lujan, whose apartment was used by SWAT for surveillance. Lujan's statement that she had "never even seen" the suspect despite living directly across from him is flagged as a potential script error.

zach goldditch· yesenia lujan· swat team· eyewitness testimony· media gaffes

1:02:09 This whole thing is a script. We don't know anything. We don't know anything. But let's play some of the script just to reconfirm in the listeners' minds that there's something screwy going on. Play Zach in the wrong theater. Now here's a guy who was shot in the neck. Him and his buddies and the football team went to see the movie, The Midnight Showing, but it turns out he was in the wrong theater or something, which makes zero sense. Play this clip and you'll see where the discrepancy takes place. At Gateway High in Aurora, members of the football team gathered today to support each other. They had gone as a group to the midnight movie that turned into a horror show. 17-year-old Zach Goldditch was shot through the neck. It sounded like a firecracker just went off in the back of my head.

1:02:54 You know, I was like, man, what has happened? So I kind of fell over my friend's lap. He'd gone to the late movie with the reluctant approval of his mother, Christine. I was worried more about curfew than I was worried about somebody going into a theater and shooting my son, shooting children, not just my kid, but other people. Script. Zack wasn't even in the same theater as the gunman. The bullet came through the wall. What? Huh. Okay, well that's a little weird. Now here's the one, and by the way I've got lots of these but I'm not going to play them all. I just want to convince people that we've got them. They're all over the place. This one is the most interesting. This is the off-script neighbor blows it clip. And what happens here...

1:03:34 Apparently, across the street, and by the way, I don't know how they, there's never been a good explanation to me about how this guy's place was rigged with explosives, that many experts say you would have to be a demolitions expert to actually have done what he did in his house, which also indicates it's possible that the guy was going to go home and then blow himself up because it was set up to kill him. I mean, we don't know anything about this shooter and whether or not he was a strong man where he set up and whether that house was rigged and killed. Well, cops are ready to kill him because it sounds as though he didn't have the competency to make that, put those trip wires in and make the thing so it's going to blow like that. So, but that's beside the point right across from his living room window was an apartment building where they set up shop, this SWAT team for some reason, even though the guy's caught, set up shop in this woman's apartment and she, and it's like, and as they show it, it's about 30 yards from the guy's window. Now,

1:04:33 Listen to what happens when she starts discussing this on the air and they fail to clip this part out. Not to push it. Knowing that something that was designed to kill you was right above your heads while you were sleeping, that's That's a little nerve-wracking and it doesn't allow for very good sleep. SWAT units asked Yesenia Lujan to use her apartment for surveillance since her bedroom window looks right in the home's living room. He's living right next door to you. That's what's scary. That's what's really scary because we didn't know who... We'd never even seen him. Wait a minute. This makes no sense. First he lives above her, then he lives next door. No, no, no.

1:05:14 There's a woman, they had two clips there. One was a woman that was up right beneath him and she was just bitching about the fact there was a bomb in there. But the other one is next door. She's right across, looking in his living room and she says, we don't, we didn't know him. We didn't even see him, she says, which I think was the blowed script. Huh. There, she's not supposed to say she never saw it. In other words, she's right across from him and she has never seen him. Can't they hire better actors who can remember five lines? She had the line down and then she just jumped the gun. You could hear it up She was going along fine, and then she ups her voice to make a point as though she's like, you know Got something to tell us. Let me listen to that again. Let me just listen to this one again. Oh, that's the wrong one Sorry, uh, which one was it neighbor? This is the off script neighbor. Yeah, let me listen to that again. Oh, come on. Oh

1:06:09 Apple trackpad sucks not to push it knowing that something that was designed to kill you was right above your heads while you were sleeping. That's That's a little nerve-wracking and it doesn't allow for very good sleep. SWAT units asked Yesenia Lujan to use her apartment for surveillance since her bedroom window looks right into Holmes' living room. He was living right next door to you. That's what's scary. That's what's really scary because we didn't know who... We'd never even seen him! She got confused with some other scripts. That was like, whoa, her voice went up and everything. Yeah. Interesting. Which was the honest part. All right. So what's your conclusion of all of this, John? I mean, I think mine is pretty clear. I think this is first of all, it is I'll just say this.

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Aurora Shooting Theories, Gangster Squad Trailer

The Aurora shooting is theorized to be a State Department operation intended to facilitate the UN Arms Transfer Treaty. The discussion also covers the pulling of the "Gangster Squad" movie trailer, which featured a theater shooting scene, and the involvement of the Department of Homeland Security in issuing safety checklists to cinemas nationwide.

state department· un arms treaty· gangster squad· ryan gosling· movie trailer

1:07:01 Obviously the whole thing is filled with confusing psychological messaging from start to finish. I mean right from the movie to what the guy's wearing. The whole thing is just chock full of of you know of Hollywood Hollywood writing red hair or not. Is he in Friend Finder. I mean the whole the whole the whole yeah the whole thing to me it would be a perfect setup from the State Department who operate autonomously to help shepherd in the UN Arms Transfer Treaty. That to me makes the most sense.

1:07:40 I like that theory and I'm not going to argue against it. We do not have anything other than this kind of deconstruction to go by. So we don't know. I think that this is a prelude to something. This is a dry run. I don't know who's doing it. I don't know that anybody in the law enforcement has anything to do with it. I don't know who's doing it or why they're doing it. But I think something big, and they're going to take a look at it, they'll probably get a copy of this show and say, oh my God, we can't have people like this idiot next door neighbor. They're saying she never saw that guy in her entire life and he's supposed to be living there? Come on. So they're going to do a whole post-mortem. They're going to do an analysis and they're going to be like, oh, we screwed up a lot of things. They're going to have that Piers Morgan stuff. This is going to take months and months and months. They're going to look over all the screw ups.

1:08:23 And there's lots of them. I mean, the guy in the wrong theater, the bad acting, some of the people, the scripted shows that you've seen that seem scripted and I don't believe anyone could see otherwise when the questions and answers are so well prepared overnight. And they're gonna figure out how to make one of these things really, you know, something, this is minor. We don't even know how many people really are dead and how many, we have no idea about any of it. And so you're saying drill, set up, getting ready, analysis, project for something much bigger. And in addition to that, I will point out the National Theater Association is reviewing all security procedures. So you will be naked body scanned on the way in, obviously. Which would have.

1:09:11 It made no difference in this situation. The guy bought a ticket, went in, he didn't have a gun on him, and then he went out the back and grabbed his guns and came in the back exit, which is big. By the way, if there's no liability lawsuit for wrongful death against the state of Century 16, then something's really screwy here. Because you're not supposed to let people in and out of the place through the back door. Well, you are officially now a crackpot. It's a good job. I thought it was uncracked potty but I you know I have most of it. DHS is now getting involved. Yeah oh yeah. Oh wait is this this is a clip you have right? It's just in fact this is these guys I guess weren't involved in the first place and so they had to get their name mentioned until this news item came out. And federal authorities are taking this incident very seriously. The Department of Homeland Security is actually supplying movie theaters across the country with a safety check

1:10:08 list to prevent another tragedy from happening. So just as a last one I want to throw this in there though because one of the things we always like to do on this show people that listen a lot know that we always try to relate everything has to be related to an upcoming movie. Promotion yes we do we have do we have a movie promotion tied in? Yes, a trailer that was pulled. A preview for a new movie with some of the biggest stars in Hollywood has been pulled because it irrevocably echoes this shooting rampage. Victoria Recagno explains. Victoria Recagno, our buddy Victoria Recagno. What is this from? What finds? She's on the Inside Insider Edition. Oh, that's nice. I'm glad. Good to hear her. Victoria, hit it. Look at this jaw-dropping coincidence. She's a puker. You just gotta put him down. Come on.

1:11:01 It's the trailer for the upcoming movie Gangster Squad with an all-star cast including Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone. And it features this gut-wrenching scene of a gangland massacre in, of all places, a crowded movie theater. The trailer was scheduled to play before showings of The Dark Knight Rises, including the one shattered by a madman in Colorado. I wonder if Victoria talks to her three-year-old that way. She doesn't sound like this at all. No, she's a... Hey kid, I really would you like to have some breast milk because I'm Victoria Recaño on the scene here it is suck away Got a call her about that. That's a problem well I love to get your work talking like that, but anyway. Yeah, there's your angle. There's a fuck We got the theater thing in there all right, so we've got the theater or we got the movie We've got the small arms treaty, and we've got the setup for something big, but I'd say put that in the book John I mean we need something big particularly because Ulsterman

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Ulsterman Report, 2012 Election Contingency Plan

The Ulsterman Report, featuring a "military insider," claims the existence of an election contingency plan titled "By Any Means Necessary." The report suggests that operatives within the Obama administration were focused on securing a second term through unspecified high-stakes maneuvers.

ulsterman report· barack obama· 2012 election· military insider· contingency plan

1:12:02 You know the the Ulsterman report? Oh yeah. Which I love reading. So now the so we have the Wall Street insider, we have the White House insider, and the Wall Street insider brought in a new character. The military insider. Oh God. Yeah, and apparently someone who's been in the military for 23 years. And so the part one of his interview with the military insider has came out earlier this week. And the military insider says that he has seen a report Well, I'm just gonna bring up this this article so I don't I don't want to misquote it and you know and I have to say the White House insider and Wall Street insider have been pretty accurate in in what they have And what they have discussed and predicted throughout the wasn't a year and a half that he's been publishing these reports So here's what the military insider says He says hold on a second. I

1:13:03 Approximately two years ago, not quite two years ago, I received information pertaining to an election contingency plan for 2012. And after the 2010 elections, there were particular operatives specific to the Obama administration and Democratic Party leadership indicating an overwhelming need to secure a second term for President Obama. The document's title was, By Any Means Necessary. It's kind of cool. So, any means necessary could be anything. What's underway that they have to do this? Well, that's by any means necessary. No, no, they're going to get him back in by any means necessary, but why? Oh, because he has to destroy America, of course. Well, that wouldn't be it. Come on. This is the Ulsterman report. That's obvious. By any means necessary.

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Senate Money Laundering Hearing, Mexican Drug Cartels

A Senate Homeland Security hearing led by Senator Carl Levin investigated the ongoing laundering of Mexican drug proceeds through U.S. financial institutions. Treasury official David Cohen testified that despite new regulations in Mexico, illicit funds continue to be "layered" into legitimate trade transactions and moved through Central American countries to enter the U.S. system.

carl levin· david cohen· treasury department· money laundering· mexico· hsbc

1:14:00 So meanwhile, there were some very interesting things and of course this disrupted two main topics and two hearings on the Hill, one regarding the Muslim Brotherhood conversation, which of course heated up big time with Michelle Bachman. That's now off the radar. That's gone done. And this certainly is perfect if you want to get rid of a conversation that is embarrassing and upsetting to the administration. I'll get to that in a second. But the other one was about money laundering. And there was a Senate Homeland Security hearing. I guess Levin is the chairman of that hearing and he had a guy on from the Treasury Department, David Cohen.

1:14:45 And the question of course is, is this still happening? Is drug money still being laundered through banks from Mexico? And what are we doing against it and how are we stopping that? And his answer was, well, just not so surprising. Even though they've got new rules down in Mexico, as you just pointed out, I think starting in 2010, Are illicit drug proceeds still being laundered into US financial institutions? Mr. Cohn? I think there's no question that there continues to be a problem with money laundering in US financial institutions coming from Mexico, from the Casas de Cambio and other institutions in Mexico, as well as from other sources where illicit proceeds are placed into the US financial system. So this was actually a very interesting hearing. It was four hours. I couldn't pull a lot of clips, have one more.

1:15:44 They had a whole bunch of douchebags from HSBC Mexico, and you know they're all like I don't recall yeah No, I didn't know about it, then and you know all the typical bullcrap and but you know how is How are they combating this and how is the money still? Slipping through is answered here by David by David Cohen of the Treasury Department with respect to Mexico Obviously there is a substantial amount of legitimate trade with Mexico and a substantial amount of legitimate US dollars that are spent in Mexico. And what we see is these Mexican financial institutions working with Casas de Cambios and then working with US financial institutions to take in US dollars from

1:16:35 From the Mexican economy it dirty money is layered in with it's layered in So it's like it's snuck in between the other dollars like here. This is such is such theater of the mind It's like it's layered in no. No it said it's it goes through the computer and You know the guy brings the cash into the Casa de Cambio, whatever it's called, Costco de Cambio, they stick the money there and then they just do a computer transfer. No, but it's like it's layered, like it's double folded or something. Legitimate funds and placed into US financial institutions.

1:17:12 That's a, that continues to be a serious problem even after the really very important and aggressive steps that the Mexican government has taken to restrict the ability of businesses and individuals to deposit U.S. dollars directly into Mexican financial institutions. We've also seen some displacement of the money laundering cycle. So instead of the drug dollars just moving into Mexico, because of the steps that Mexican government has taken, we've seen some of these dollars move further south.

1:17:47 in coming back into the US financial system from countries further into Central America? Yeah, so an answer is yeah, of course, because this is the only money that is coming into the system. All the other money we have in the United States is just negative numbers in the big database that swirls around and around and around and is leveraged and re-leveraged and leveraged again. And the only actual liquidity, only money coming into the banks is drug money and we know that in 2009 it was almost 400 billion dollars and I went back and I looked at there was a great report that Max Kaiser did in 2011 and you gotta watch this video it's in the show notes 428.na shownotes.com where Stacey Herbert correlates the 2008 collapse to the drug cartels

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

2008 Financial Crisis, LIBOR Scandal, Sheila Bair

Analysis from Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert suggests the 2008 financial crisis was exacerbated by drug cartels withholding liquidity from U.S. banks. The discussion transitions to the LIBOR scandal, featuring an interview with former FDIC chair Sheila Bair, who appeared to struggle when asked if she had prior knowledge of the interest rate manipulation.

max kaiser· drug cartels· libor· sheila bair· fdic· federal reserve

1:17:12 That's a, that continues to be a serious problem even after the really very important and aggressive steps that the Mexican government has taken to restrict the ability of businesses and individuals to deposit U.S. dollars directly into Mexican financial institutions. We've also seen some displacement of the money laundering cycle. So instead of the drug dollars just moving into Mexico, because of the steps that Mexican government has taken, we've seen some of these dollars move further south.

1:17:47 in coming back into the US financial system from countries further into Central America? Yeah, so an answer is yeah, of course, because this is the only money that is coming into the system. All the other money we have in the United States is just negative numbers in the big database that swirls around and around and around and is leveraged and re-leveraged and leveraged again. And the only actual liquidity, only money coming into the banks is drug money and we know that in 2009 it was almost 400 billion dollars and I went back and I looked at there was a great report that Max Kaiser did in 2011 and you gotta watch this video it's in the show notes 428.na shownotes.com where Stacey Herbert correlates the 2008 collapse to the drug cartels

1:18:44 refusing to launder their money into the US banks because of all the noise that was being made about cracking down and legalizing drugs and exactly what we were talking about in the last episode, John. That the drug cartels, they're being threatened by The administration a number of ways including oh, we're gonna you know, we're gonna get people hooked on the legal drugs We have over here, but what they didn't do is they say okay. All right Then we just won't put any money into your banks and see how you like that and she correlates down to the the week the week

1:19:23 of the start of the financial crisis in 2008 with the drug cartels stopping the laundering of money. So, this explains so much that we've seen over the past few years. Of course this somehow ties into LIBOR because you know the money that banks lend to each other in the the London interbank offered rate is relies directly upon new money coming into the system Sheila bear was interviewed on MSNBC or I think see a CSF CNBC and that she was the douchebag that ran that did she run the SEC did she

1:20:01 What did she run? Sheila Bear. Wasn't she the one that was in that other operation that was the offshoot of the SEC and she was brought into the SEC? I can't remember the players anymore. Look it up in the book of knowledge for God's sake. Yeah, we shall do that. I'm sorry. She was the FDIC. Federal Deposit Insurance. She's FDIC. Okay. Right. She served on the board of directors and she had She's so surprised and she didn't know about any of this, of course. And it's shocker. But you can hear that when the lie comes, it's so funny because she's very eloquent. She speaks extremely well. Of course, it's crazy how the Federal Reserve knew about this scandal. They didn't investigate. They knew about it. Did you know about it? I want to ask you about libel before we run out of time. One more question. Do you think having knowing what the Fed knew back in 2008, should it have done more?

1:20:56 Yeah, again, based on what I am reading in the papers, I think they should have. Looking at those emails, it looks like they had pretty explicit notification of some very bad behavior. And I don't understand why they didn't investigate. I think they deserve credit for trying to suggest some reforms. But again, even those reforms did not tackle the core problem, which was that it wasn't a transaction-based survey. It was a judgment survey. But I don't understand why they didn't investigate, given what they were being told. I don't understand that. And they did have authority to do that. Sheila, did you know about it? Did I know about it? I knew, well, I read what I read in the papers. When someone lies, even a kid does this, you always repeat the question.

1:21:44 Did you know about it? Did I know about it? It wasn't a transaction-based survey. Go back and do it again. But I don't understand why they didn't investigate, given what they were being told. I don't understand that. And they did have authority to do that. Sheila, did you know about it? Did I know about it? I knew, well, I knew when I read the papers I knew about. I knew that there was a market perception that LIBOR was judgmental and it was. But no, I had no idea that there was actual, you know, judgments. One thing, the kind of, you know, really overt race picking. She's completely lost control of her mouth. She just can't help herself anyway. I didn't take the cookie from the cookie jar. Did I break the cookie jar?

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

IMF Whistleblower Peter Doyle, Christine Lagarde

Peter Doyle, a former IMF official, resigned while publicly criticizing the organization's leadership as "tainted" and the selection process for Managing Director Christine Lagarde as illegitimate. The scale of the IMF headquarters in Washington D.C. and its influence over global finance are discussed in the context of Doyle's departure.

peter doyle· imf· christine lagarde· whistleblower· washington dc

1:22:29 Did I take the cookie? No, you have to repeat the question. Did I take the cookie? Well, you know, I saw I saw the thing, the crumbs on the ground. He was missing. I noticed that. I know the cookie was missing, but I didn't take the cookie. You know, she never actually says she actually beats around the bush on the other. Of course I didn't have what I'm going to say. Peter Doyle, ex-IMF guy who was in charge of, well for one thing, the IMF bailout board, has become somewhat of a whistleblower and he has come out and said

1:23:12 The leadership of the IMF is tainted. He's ashamed to have worked there. This guy's cruising for a bruising for sure. Oh, yeah, he's gonna be hanging upside down. He writes in incompetence failings disastrous appointments for the IMF's managing director. Uh-huh. Well, yeah. Oh, we know how that all came about. The fact is most clear in regard to appointments for managing director, which over the past decade have all too evidently been disastrous. Even the current incumbent, Ms. Lagarde, is tainted as neither her gender, integrity, or élan can make up for the fundamental illegitimacy of the selection process.

1:23:51 He might want to consider a move. This is not the way to go. This is a very, very, very bad idea to be talking like that. What's his name again? His name is Peter Doyle. D-O-Y-L-E. Peter Doyle. O-Y-L-E. Let me look him up on the book of knowledge. There may be something else going on here. Could be. Because that's just the dumbest thing imaginable. You can't do that. I'm thinking this is the guy, I'm thinking he's promoting his book. This is probably the guy who wrote the book that says in eight years everything's gonna fall apart and the US will come. Remember? Oh that guy. So he's not, if you look up the book of knowledge, he's not even, he's an actor, an admiral, a singer, right? He's not even in here. Really? You looked up Peter Doyle, IMF?

1:24:44 Well, I looked him up in the book of knowledge, but if I look him up just in the internets, it's a different story. I can find him. Let me see. That makes no sense. Shame to have any association. Peter Doyle, Wikipedia. Yeah, here we go. I didn't see it. No, that's not it. You're right. No, he's not in the Wikipedia. Hmm. Interesting. So he's brought up as a straw man. Hmm. Hmm. Let me see. Peter Doyle, IMF book. Is this the guy who wrote the book? I don't know. It's got a lot of ink. Yeah. Hmm. You know that the the IMF building in DC is five times the size of the treasury. Oh, it's huge. And by the way, gorgeous. Yeah. And it has underground. It goes like five stories underground. You know, those people, they do run run everything. Yeah. No, he's you don't mess with them. So this morning in German magazine Der Spiegel

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Greece Financial Crisis, Bill Clinton, Haiti Reconstruction

As Greece faces a potential cash exhaustion in September, former President Bill Clinton visited the country to promote the "Hellenic Initiative" for foreign investment. This is compared to Clinton's role in Haiti, where a significant portion of earthquake reconstruction funds reportedly went toward debt relief for banks rather than local infrastructure.

greece· bill clinton· hellenic initiative· haiti· earthquake relief· debt relief

1:25:47 The IMF stated, this is all still in German, still coming, it may be in English by now. I'm sure someone is, you know, the great journalists at Huffington Post have probably run it through the Google Translate. IMF funds is seriously considering to stop financial aid to Greece and which means in September they will run out of all cash. So this is and the De Spiegel is, I think, pretty reputable. Their sources are usually quite good. So that's news coming out of Euro land. But even funnier, right now, former US President Bill Clinton is in Greece. Wait a minute. Attention, citizens of Greece. The apocalypse is near. Bill Clinton is in your country.

1:26:39 He is representing the Hellenic Initiative. Oh no! How lovely is that? Clinton is in Greece to promote the Hellenic Initiative, an initiative by businessmen of Greek origin living abroad in Saudi Arabia who want to facilitate foreign investment in the debt-ridden country. We're coming to buy your shit! We hear it's cheap! Unbelievable! Clinton wants an island. He's gonna walk away with this. I guarantee Clinton, I'm putting this in the book, Clinton will end up with an island all to himself. He will have an island, I'm sure. That he got it for free. It'll be his payoff, his penny. He doesn't need money anymore. It's just like, give me an island. Oh yeah. Well speaking of islands, Haiti, another one of Bill Clinton's conquests.

1:27:35 Check this out. Reuters now reports, let me see what the actual, this is so funny, what is the headline here? On the AP, I'm sorry US pledged to rebuild Haiti not being met. Oh Really? I want to remind everybody about being met. I want to remind you about the George Clooney Telethon and everyone came together and we are the world and we're all gonna send money and you do you texted your $10 you stupid fools you fell right in you fell right into their trap I'm telling you

1:28:14 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. That's right. So, here we go. We're talking about $10 billion. Now they have spent some money. This is the best part. $988 million, so that's almost a billion dollars, didn't go into Haiti to rebuild. It went towards debt relief. Debt relief. So Hades like busted up. Oh, into the banks. Yes. It's busted up. People are dead. And then there's and then you text your $10 and the bankers go, yeah. Well, before we help them out, let me just see. Let me look at the books here. Yeah. Yeah. Computer says, no, you owe us money. So we're going to take that now. So they so that's a billion dollars right off the top.

1:29:11 Less than 12% of the reconstruction money sent to Haiti after the earthquake has gone towards energy shelter ports or other infrastructure at least a third 320 9 million went to projects that were awarded before the earthquake to HIV AIDS program so there were all the NGOs going Yeah, we need the money for this program we have going on and Can you believe the mismanagement of all of this? It wasn't mismanaged, you're completely crazy. It wasn't mismanaged. It was managed perfectly, I'm sorry, what am I talking about? It wasn't mismanaged. And of course the special envoy for all of this, the guy in charge of the first drinks is, what's his name again? Oh yeah, Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton.

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

USAID Famine Relief, Fred Willard PBS Firing

A USAID public service announcement for famine relief in the Horn of Africa is critiqued for its messaging. Separately, the firing of actor Fred Willard from the PBS show "Market Warriors" following an arrest for lewd conduct is discussed, with the hosts noting the lack of due process before his termination.

usaid· horn of africa· fred wallard· pbs· market warriors

1:29:59 What a character. Now here's an interesting thing that just cropped up on a PSA talking about the same scam. The USAID has a public service announcement where they're begging for money, asking you to text something and it goes to the Horn of Africa. Play this clip. I'm sorry, which clip is this? USAID begging for money. Oh, that makes sense. Right now, over 13 million people are affected by famine, war and drought in the Horn of Africa. But saving these lives doesn't take a lot. It just takes a lot of us. So I'm forwarding these facts to every shaman, tuk-tuk driver, sherpa,

1:30:38 Kurdistan Tea House owner, Iguana butcher, and Ozark squirrel chef I've ever met. Text GIVE to 74 and the best of the best and fro fro to donate $10 and forward the facts. Hey! I like this! Hey, I'm Adam. He's John. We're Tuk Tuk drivers. Before I start naming the names that are helping us out here, I want to play a clip which is a PBS and this is the this is I think in many ways our competition they have commercials they they they're corrupt they beg for money and

1:31:31 One of their own just has a misstep without trial, without explanation, they out and out fire him. This is a very interesting story what happened to Fred Willard who apparently got caught with his pants down supposedly, allegedly in a porn movie theater and he just, but here's the story you can get to. What's the clip John? The clip is PBS anecdote pre-donation segment. In other news, Anchorman actor Fred Willard is speaking out about his arrest for lewd conduct, saying it didn't happen. Willard, who recently appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live, says strange circumstances led him to the seedy adult theater in Hollywood where cops busted him. The 72-year-old Willard says he and the cops have a difference of opinion about what really happened. From the same producers comes a new series, Market Warner.

1:32:22 Just hours after news of his arrest, PBS fired Willard from his job on the TV show Market Warriors. Now there you go. I mean, porn, they're sex offenders. He didn't do anything. The guy gets arrested for whatever reason, it hasn't gone to trial. He's not guilty of anything. But oh, according to PBS, he's guilty, so he's fired immediately. Yeah, so maybe the show, maybe he just had no ratings. Well, that would be different. That's common to fire people for that. But this is, anyway, this is just to point out, you know, to people that, you know, we don't have these sorts of pressures. We don't go to porn theaters. I get your point. I'm just messing with you.

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Listener Donations, Karma Requests, Wedding Well-Wishes

A series of listener donations are read, including contributions from Raymond Williams and Michael Shoemaker. Many donors request "job karma" or "getting laid karma," and several report successful outcomes from previous requests, such as job promotions and raises. The hosts also thank listeners for wedding gifts and support for the upcoming tour.

raymond williams· michael shoemaker· green bay· huntersville· job karma

1:33:13 I hope Ron Paul fans will speak out for Gary Johnson because the media is not providing anything even close to Equal Time. I coded a little pasteable web widget that jumps right to candidates' campaign pages and you launch their YouTube page. Please ask the tech crowd to paste the code on as many sites as possible. And EqualTimeProject.com is where you go. Cool, thank you. Check it out. Thank you for your donation. Raymond Williams, Lafayette, Florida, $500 with no comment. Michael Shoemaker in Rancho Cucamonga. Anaheim, Azusa and Cucamonga California. Ah! Yep. 69-69. Mm-hmm. Ralph Bau in Scanjack, Oakland. John, not Ralph, John. John. Did I say Ralph? Yeah, for some reason. Geez, I don't know. I'm hearing something in my brain. Scanjack.

1:34:06 Overland Park, Kansas 6969 another one make sure that this is a drunk donation because JCD always makes me laugh No serious at work cracking me up people wondering what I'm laughing at just it. Okay. I don't think he's drunk. That's the problem Because when you're drunk your structure is different. Not sure drunk enough yet he says. Anyway I'll read it straight, sorry. Just put up my Android Bluetooth chat game, chat it out, which purchases will net the podcast a portion 33 cents out of each 99 cents. Not sure drunk enough yet he He bright back after beer. Another beer. He's drunk. He bright back after another beer. So website is in progress setting UPM or something. Our chat.com. Okay. Okay. Beer good. Please send me a trains good app sales, family health, job safety, karma. If you would thank you guys for keeping me sane and providing the sound clips. Oh, okay. All aboard trains good, planes bad.

1:35:08 You thought, karma. And onward, Andre Schmidt in Peabody, Massachusetts. Or as we say, Massachusetts nuts. That's where my wife's family came from, Peabody. 6969, been listening for more than a year, thought it was time to give back. I'm making this donation on behalf of one of the people who turned me on to the podcast, the best in the universe, I might add, my brother Jean-Claude. Jean-Claude. He's turning 28 on the 21st, we have him listed. He'll be happy to get some get laid karma, even though we're far apart, I know he needs it more than I do. Well, that's nice. Plus, he's a monthly donor, this will keep him a little closer to his knighthood. Speaking of donors, I need to call out Lincoln Jr. as a douchebag.

1:35:47 Since he, I quote, stopped donating some time ago. Thank you both for the weekly entertainment, although I piss off everybody else by calling all the BS every time I see or hear news. Yeah, you got to be careful. And certainly now is not the time to go around saying at the office, well, this is clearly a false flag to set up for something bigger. Don't do that. Do yourself a favor. Keep that amongst us. Here's some getting laid karma for your buddy there. You've got karma. Just keep that on the down low. Apparently he's in Luzon, Switzerland at the moment. Oh, nice. Not in Peabody, Massachusetts. Sir Todd Simons, 8 mile plains in Queensland.

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1:37:32 ITM from the land of the get no mo nation Olympics $50 value for value plus 1607 wedding congratulations booster hopefully this goes some small way to repaying in some small way to repaying the hours of entertainment you've provided me on my rather lengthy commute of course it does we highly appreciate the value we are the commute friends of the commuter yes keep up the great work Joe the dish slave in Stockton 60 Here with a $60 happy nuptials donation for Adam and Mickey with no e please credit this toward my wife's damehood mention my podcast at ozone nightmare calm and play the biodiversity jingle, okay? Greg Stierle in Santa Monica 5555 happy birthday shot it do we have her listed yeah, I think we do Shirley Lee Kyle Kinzel

1:38:28 5510, double nickels on the dime from Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers. Karma works! I listened to my border crossing karma from episode 424 about 20 minutes before crossing the US-Canada border. After a short Q&A from the Border Patrol officer, including if I've ever been fingerprinted. Can you imagine? Yeah, really. Ever been fingerprinted? Yeah. Yeah, my thumbprint when I'm from California, I got a California license and they always take our thumbprint. Does that count? Take note boners, not only is no agenda part of the balanced news diet, it helps with international travel as well. Needs a toot of the head, little girl shut up slave combo. Why? Because how freaking adorable is that kid? Great work. Shut up slave! That's a great combination by the way. Yeah. I rank off for a reprise, play it again. Oh wow, reprise, okay.

1:39:29 as does the ex extra good meaning with the shells a john and bow in overland park kansas double nickels on the dime still drinking one to say congratulations to making an women first because well if nothing else the view is better wishing them all the best i wanted to set up some game car must someone named night sorry i want to set some game night section on out chatted dot com this is the end of the game john comes in with two donations he he was so drunk he sent to Double shot of karma, please this would be my second donation for the show number um for something here is somewhere right for two eight Oh kid milk for the wife, please Bill karma yeah, where's the where's the kid milk hold on a second here we go You've got karma

1:40:21 Ben Duesling in Ottawa, Ontario, 55, capital. Hey guys, my father's birthday is the 22nd, I was thinking, we have him listed? Do you buy someone who has what do you buy someone has everything in another old and cap? You have those you have old man caps. I've seen you wear an old man cap. Yeah, really? Yeah, no So I asked him what he wanted he said make a donation to the no agenda show on my behalf So here we are. Please put it toward his night fun and throw some karma his way. Thanks homies addition I made a donation my father's birthday on the upcoming Sunday shown and

1:40:59 I forgot to insert his name. Yeah, we got it. All right here it is. Karma and a birthday shout out coming. You've got Karma. Chris Witten in Huntersville, North Carolina $50. Congratulations Adam and Mickey. Wanted to let you guys know I donated a few weeks ago and I asked for Job Karma. Ended up getting two raises in the past month. One was a normal raise and the other was from a job promotion. For the Christians who don't like the karma thing, think of it as sowing and reaping instead. It's the same thing. Thanks for teaching me how to think critically instead of just blindly accepting what I see and hear. Can I get a we've got to talk about that karma? Huh? What? We've got to talk about that? I don't know that we have a we've got to talk about that. That's something I recall. I don't think we have one. Well give him a

1:41:49 Huntsman karma and that may do the trick. You've got karma. It's like asking for a shake and getting a black coffee. It's not the same thing. He's gonna have to explain what he meant. And then finally we got $250 donations each from James Malloy and Ennis something somewhere I have no idea. Coe Clare. and from parts unknown Kyle Bauer $50. I want to thank them and all the people that donated to show 428 as we move along in their numbering. We're headed of course toward our fifth anniversary in October. We have to set up a special fund for that and also a couple of interesting shows coming up so Dvorak.org slash nachanneldvorak.com

1:42:36 I'm sorry channel of org comm slash na no agenda show calm and no agenda nation calm Please help us continue this pursuit of the truth, and that's a good one pursuit of the truth Yes, and in in addition to that um You know it's great that we got married because I see lots of great Donations coming in with karma for me and miss Mickey no II and I and look at it. You know if we hadn't gotten married I Didn't Dame Astrid, you know, we would have been low. So Hopefully we can pick up a little of the slack that we I expect to see on the Hot Pockets tour and I don't know there might be I wonder if there's a No agenda producers update coming up after the show. I'm not quite sure But we'll I will know in a minute. I also wanted to give special

1:43:29 Karma to Da Den Man, a little uh... fuck the cancer karma for him. You've got karma. All right, and again everybody we appreciate all of your donations to the program we do not have any commercials So we're not like PBS we get all kinds of pressure and we have to you know I'd hate to have to fire John just for whatever he did You know I can't do that, but I don't have to do that because there's no one leaning on us No one leaning on us the only people who lean and we lean on is you and you do that here for org slash and It's your birthday, birthday, I know I'm jacked up!

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Eponymous the Beach Knight

Eponymous is officially knighted as "Sir Eponymous, the Beach Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" following a significant donation. The hosts discuss potential future meetups in Tokyo and Australia, noting Ms. Mickey's history of living in Japan.

knighting· eponymous· australia· tokyo· no agenda roundtable

1:44:26 Send out congratulations and thanks for the donation to his dad Ken doozling Celebrating his birthday today. Happy birthday from all of us here at the vast staff and management of the no agenda program And then we have one night today, which is great An instant night as we call them. So if you can grab your blade there John comes I Eponymous, step forward please and thank you so much for catching up six months of being a donor, a boner that is, now turning into a donor. And wow, Insta Knight, that's so awesome that you've come to do that for us. So please kneel as I hereby pronounce the Sir Eponymous, the Beach Knight of

1:45:08 of the No Agenda Roundtable. You, sir, anonymous or eponymous, or eponymous, you got your hookers and blow-rim boys and chardonnay winches and beer and hot pants and booze. It's all right here at the Roundtable for the No Agenda Knights and the Dames. And, uh, I'm looking forward to, uh, I think we, uh, I don't know if we're gonna do Tokyo next year. No, next year we're gonna do West Coast. Then after that we do, uh, either Tokyo or Australia. I think maybe... Well, Japan. I think we should stop in and say hi to our... Why don't we just, on our way, we'll just go to Japan on our way. Go to Australia. Yeah, we'll go on our way to Australia. You know, Mickey lived in Japan for five years, so she... Well, she speaks Japanese. Yeah.

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Steve Jobs Biography, Adult ADHD Marketing

The promotion of Walter Isaacson’s Steve Jobs biography on 60 Minutes is noted as a corporate synergy, as CBS owns the publisher, Simon & Schuster. Additionally, a "house call" segment on adult ADHD is identified as a disguised advertisement, similar to a campaign featuring Adam Levine of Maroon 5.

steve jobs· walter isaacson· simon & schuster· adhd· maroon 5· propaganda

1:45:50 Yeah, guess not. No, I'm sure she does. Yeah, to some degree. It'll probably come back to her. But more importantly, she understands. I'm sure whenever she says they listen. Yeah. Yeah. Look at me. She tells me, yes, dear. Yes, dear. Whatever you say. So, you know, while on the topic of corruption in the media, I was watching 60 Minutes and I just have to put this in. It's the CBS and Steve Jobs book. Play this clip and this is just to me, you know, the Steve Jobs book is the best seller this year, probably will be the best seller, but just to squeeze a few extra dollar shekels out of the poor people that watch 60 Minutes. They put this in, I didn't realize that CBS 60 Minutes owns the book. When Walter Isaacson first began working on the book, which is published by Simon & Schuster, a division of CBS,

1:46:46 Steve Jobs wife Lorraine Powell told him be honest with his failings. Yeah, well of course this is how it works. Duh. I'm just you know, just every time I hear something like this I just get it's so annoying that you just I mean I can see why people listen to our show and then they watch you know they pick these things up and then they go nuts. And then they get mad. Of course. It's like hey wait a minute. You're going to scam me. Yeah, I know. And by the way, while on the topic of scamming, the drug companies have got a new one. I got a kick out of it. This is another public service announcement that came out on this new disease, adult ADHD or whatever. No, no. We knew about this because this is what Adam from your favorite brand Maroon 5 is plugging.

1:47:38 Remember the adult own own your ADHD remember that whole campaign? Oh, yeah. Now, you're right. Let me another blamed about it Mood swings poor judgment and trouble at work. Could you have adult ADHD? Dr. Siegel and Samadhi are detecting and treating the disorder on house call Sunday Wait, did I just hear a programming note disguising an advertisement? It's a combination. It's a combo shot. Nice. This is very slick. Oh, wow. What makes it slick is that if you notice the beginning vamp, it was repetitive to an extreme, which would be something to trigger, oh, I'm gonna keep playing it over and over and over and over. Did you notice that?

1:48:28 Yeah, this is good. Those guys, you know, they are good at it. No, we're these people are experts and they get the big dough. You know, there's a great video. I tweeted it last night. It's about an hour and a half. It's a movie and it's on YouTube. And according to the notes on the page, it was produced by North Korea. And it's it's you know, you'll like it. You really enjoy it because it's all about Western and particular American propaganda. And it's really, it's well done. It has a English voiceover and it's just good. You just sit there and go, oh, it's almost a no agenda primer. I have to say.

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

San Francisco Restaurant Health Surcharge, Merguez Sausage

A grand jury report found that several San Francisco restaurants were pocketing a "universal health care" surcharge instead of using it for employee benefits. The conversation shifts to a local farmers' market experience involving "Merguez," a North African spicy mutton sausage, and the "cob" or physical shape of chickens.

san francisco· zuni cafe· health care surcharge· merguez· mutton sausage

1:49:08 Huh, yeah, they're doing some something that that new guy there is interesting that kid with the crazy haircut He's doing all right, isn't he? So there's a couple of things, you know, we used to talk more about restaurants because we were I want to go out. I want to talk about that anymore. I want to talk about some food actually. Well, I want to talk about a restaurant story that we once did Okay, we went to the Zuni cafe. Oh And then we, which I'm not going to go to anymore if based on this story, I have this SDF restaurant ripoff. You have to play this clip. We talked about this at the time and then didn't think much about it. Now it's a scandal.

1:49:48 Good evening, I'm Ken Bastida. And I'm Dana King. The next time you go out to eat, take a close look at your bill. A new grand jury report finds some San Francisco restaurants are charging you an extra fee. The jury calls it a blatant capture of funds. The grand jury says a significant number of restaurant owners are benefiting financially from the city's universal health care program, pocketing about a million dollars in just one year. Customers were told that money was for restaurant workers' health care costs. TBS 5 reporter... Oh, wait a minute. So they're not actually putting the money towards health care costs? They're just putting it in their pocket? No, they're just putting it in their pockets. Remember when we saw that it was on the bill? Yeah, I think we mentioned a couple of times. It was like $10. Yeah, it was like 18% or some crazy... no, 8% or some crazy amount. Yeah, it was a lot.

1:50:41 And they were just putting that in their pocket. Oh, wow. A scam? No kidding. Wow. Very disturbing. So yesterday we went to the market. You know, we hadn't been in, we hadn't been for two Saturdays. And so it was so wonderful. The chicken guy He, now this chicken guy is, he's sophisticated. He is always interbreeding and making certain strains. And they gave us a bird. It was really cute. They drew a heart on it and said, you know, we didn't know what kind of China you guys had in your house. So, you know, happy, happy marriage, happy wedding. But they got in this whole thing about the cob. Are you familiar with the cob of the chicken? No. Yeah, this is very interesting. So the cob is the actual shape of the chicken.

1:51:31 And he went in this whole thing about how they're crossbreeding all these different strains to get the perfect cob, which is in fact the shape of a heart. And so this was the perfect cob to draw the heart on. It was just fascinating. I'm gonna go to the guy's farm and learn more about it. They just hired another guy to help with their processing. So they got three people on the farm. But it was just really, really sweet. And then Sebastian, my French guy, You know the guy's gonna get us the oryx. Yeah, the oryx. We also have some uh some red deer venison and some other oh yeah I know he's the the French guy but he has a a kitchen license so he makes uh oh crap what's the name of it um it's like the stuff that goes in the sausage it's uh they mix up all the meat. Forced meat. No no no it's uh uh oh

1:52:21 Now now I've just walked no no no it's it the name of the combo of the meat has a name they serve in the restaurants It's made of sheep, and it's oh come on. I don't know what you're talking about you're taking me completely as sheep Mickey Mickey no sausage meat button Oh Sorry, I have a total brain fart. Well, I don't know that you do have one. There's no reference to anything. Mickey's going to come in in a second. She's going to remind me what the name is. And so this guy, he makes this, he processes his, I'm pretty sure it's lamb. And it's just all these, the spices and everything. It's almost reminiscent of shawarma. Have you ever had that? No.

1:53:12 And it was just it was so you're telling me he makes a good sausage, but it wasn't sausage It's just it was like ground beef, but it wasn't beef. It was ground sheep So it's a piece of grass a ground it has a name it has a name. Oh Has the chat room was always helpful pink slime no Okay, let's go to this ground sheep hamburger It like ranch yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I should give me something to me a croque madame a ground no more nay as a sauce She slurring there's nothing here you're crazy. No. I'm not crazy. It was um oh

1:53:59 Mickey may not be listening. She's not, obviously she'd been in here by now because the leg is not... It was... it sounded like chimera but it wasn't chimera, it was... ah Jesus. This is gonna drive me nuts. Hold on. Apparently... Hold on, hold on. So as he goes off, let's see what else we got to talk about here. Hey Mickey! What's up with the guy last night? As the show deteriorates... Okay, well I got nothing here, I didn't bring the newspaper in today for some stupid reason.

1:54:39 It was a Sunday paper. I should get somebody bring it in. Yeah, are we still on the air? Apparently not Marques never heard of it Really yeah really Marques yeah, I never heard of it with like a cue that makes it even worse Marques Marques Marques I think it is Marques and they are as there's no H

1:55:17 MA...ahhh... Association of European Trademark Owners, mark. You know what it was? It was tasty, that's what it was. Well, so much for our food segment everybody. Boy, that sucked. Yeah, that sucked big balls. That's a horrible food segment. Our food segment blows. And by the way, the cob is the name of a chicken. Well, you know he said it was the the form I had a long conversation about it Yeah, you gave you a long. I think it's just bullshit Here we go merguez chicken no hold on I got a merguez merguez she's got the citizen X got it there we go Chicken and here we go merguez merguez Thank You. Yeah, never heard of it. Thank you. This is a blue foot look at merguez

1:56:08 I don't care about Marquez. It's something I've never heard of before. M-A-R-Q-E-Z. M-E-R-G-U-E-Z. G-U-E-Z. Yes, Merguez. Okay. Red spicy mutton based pressed sausage. Sausage from North African cuisine. There you go. Funny, I never heard of it. I'm sure it's good. Is the guy from Algeria? No, he's from France. What is he making these sausages for? I don't know, but he sure knows how to do it. I keep an eye on him. That ain't no Oryx. That's Cat. I wonder what happened to the next door neighbor's cat. All right, sorry about that. I shall never do that again. All right, so let's move on to the brotherhood, shall we? Another story that has been wiped off the radar.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Michele Bachmann, Muslim Brotherhood Influence Inquiry

Representative Michele Bachmann and four other members of the Intelligence Committee sent letters to the Inspector General questioning Muslim Brotherhood influence within the U.S. government. Bachmann highlighted a visa granted to a member of a foreign terrorist organization who met with the National Security Council to request the release of the "Blind Sheik."

michele bachmann· muslim brotherhood· state department· blind sheik· national security council

1:57:04 Of course, only three days ago we were talking about, well the media was talking about Michelle Bachman, she's a kook, she's nutty. You actually read the letters, you did send me a highly unusual... The letter is fantastic! Yeah, where she... I mean there's a lot of congressional letters. She refutes all the complaining. Yeah, and does it very well I have to say. Oh yeah, this was a team of people that wrote this letter. It is a killer. If you read this letter you would have nothing bad to say about Michelle Bachmann. But of course nobody reads the letter. And in addition to that it's not just her, there's four other members of the intelligence committee and it's the intelligence committee of the US Congress you know for just to go around and just say that they're crazy and nutball and that there's McCarthyism they're trying to out people for no good reason it's all crazy so there was also a what are you doing you hello you don't have to stop talking well if you're not there

1:58:05 I am here, I'm hearing every word you say. You have to remember I have a speaker in here. I know but you start whistling and I don't know who you're whistling to. I'm whistling to JC to get the newspaper because I left the Sunday paper out there. Oh I'm sorry, I mean you whistle and like... I do it all the time. You've heard me whistle before. It's just to get his attention. He's in the back. It's a weird way to get your kids attention. It's the easiest way. I don't have an intercom like you might in your fantasy abode. Doesn't he respond to a dog whistle like a really high-pitched tone that the rest of us can't hear? Dogs do respond to that. Here's Bachman on C-SPAN at the Eagle Forum College and I like this clip because she's not in, you know, and again she does herself a disservice when she gets all excited, you know, and then it comes out kind of kooky sounding. Now she's really calm.

1:58:57 But she's still animated and we'll listen to what she says and then we'll go into the Department of Homeland Security congressional oversight hearing. I sit on the Intelligence Committee. We're a very tiny committee. There are 19 of us and we deal with the nation's classified secrets and something that has been abundantly clear under the Obama administration is that there has been influence from the Muslim Brotherhood at the highest levels of power. That's a violent organization from across the world. This is true, this is a violent organization. They have a history of violence, correct? Oh yeah. And so we're raising questions and we're asking questions of the Inspector General to take a look into it and let me give you one example. Two weeks ago the State Department violated federal law. The State Department granted a visa to a member of a foreign terrorist organization from Egypt. Remember that John?

1:59:52 Remember we had that whole Victoria Nuland thing? She was like, we're just not going to tell you. We're not going to tell you why we gave him a visa. And Matt, the guy who's always there asking the hard questions, he's like, well, yeah, she's like, no, I'm just not going to tell you. None of your business. We list this as a foreign terrorist organization on our State Department website. So our State Department broke its own law, our federal law, and granted a visa and brought a foreign terrorist into the United States. Not only did they bring this terrorist into the United States, they took him to the White House. And not only did he go to the White House, he had a meeting with the National Security Council.

2:00:30 You don't get any higher than the National Security Council than dealing with the nation's classified secrets. What did this member of a terrorist organization request when he was in the White House two weeks ago? Sir Morguez, apparently. In violation of federal law. He requested that the United States open up our United States prison and release to the world the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the Blind Sheik. And we members of Congress are just asking a question. Why did the State Department do this? And why is this the latest in one series of another outrageous, unbelievable actions on the part of the administration to allow influence by the Muslim Brotherhood at the highest levels of power, the State Department, the White House, the Pentagon, the FBI, why is this going on?

2:01:25 We just want to know. And for that, MSNBC, CNN, all the usual suspects have been lighting after us and saying that we're going after individual personalities and we're being mean to Muslims. This has nothing about being mean to Muslims. There are a lot of people who are Muslims who are upset about radical terrorism too. We believe that the administration needs to keep the safety and security of the American people number one. And so that's why I'm in trouble now today. So every day I'm in trouble for something, who cares? You know, she sounds kind of put together. She still looks, she's milfy, I can't help it. She looks good. And she just, she's calm, collected. And she's stating some facts, which we followed here as well. Well, in that letter, she has a number of interesting points, which is really worth reading. Anyone who wants to see what really is going on instead of listening to CNBC or MSNBC in particular, we just slam her without doing any work at all.

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Huma Abedin Security Clearance, John McCain Defense

Senator John McCain defended State Department aide Huma Abedin against Bachmann's inquiries, though the hosts note he mispronounced her name. The discussion extends to Mohamed Elibiary, a member of the DHS Advisory Council, who reportedly used his security clearance to access and download sensitive intelligence documents.

huma abedin· john mccain· mohamed elibiary· homeland security· security clearance

2:02:28 was that thing about Huma, Uma, Huma, whatever, and you know, however you pronounce it. It's actually we have the official pronunciation. It's Homa, Homa, Homa Abdin. You don't really pronounce the D, which by the way, Our Pakistani producer sent us the pronunciation says Homa not Huma So you would presume that if you knew Homa you would say Homa right and not Huma, right? That's what you'd presume. Yes, right Well, let me just replay John McCain talking about this in the Senate how painful and injurious it is when a person's character reputation and patriotism are attacked without concern for fact or fairness

2:03:11 It's for that reason that I come to the floor today to speak regarding the attacks recently on a fine and decent American, Huma Abedin. So he's not saying it right. So I don't think he knows her at all. He says he's known her for 10 years. Yeah, it's been 20 years. Huma Abedin, he says. Huma Abedin, where it's Homa Abedin. Yeah, he doesn't know her. No, he doesn't know her. Liar, liar, pants on fire. That's a shocker. McCain, huh? Yeah, liar. And trying to fool the public. Well, anyway, so in the letter it's very clear that because of her family

2:03:48 She can't get the highest security clearances based on just the rules that are existing. It's got nothing to do with her. Right, it's just the rules. The rules are the rules and if you're family members and she has them that are involved with the Muslim Brotherhood or whoever, it's very, it's outlined very clearly in the letter. She can't get where she is. So this is something is screwy and that's all Bachman wants to uncover. What's the deal? Just tell us. There's a number of people that are mentioned in this letter and one of them is Muhammad El-Bari. And Muhammad El-Bari is on the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Committee.

2:04:36 And he is one of the guys who told DHS that, hey, we've got to stop saying Islamic terrorists and we've got to purge, purge the documents of this very offensive language. Now, back in January, this guy was given credentials by Lucy Napolitano. Intel, you know, special passwords and he downloaded information in this case about the Texas intelligence services, I believe. And, you know, so it's a breach of national security that he was given these credentials to go and root around and try and out these guys as being racist against Muslims.

2:05:28 And if you Google that, you'll see that there's a couple of, well actually more than a couple of reports. But he heads up something called the Freedom and Justice Foundation. And again, this all goes back to the Holy Land Foundation trial, which was all of these non-profit organizations which were collecting money and then sending that on to known, at least by American government standards, known terrorist groups. And so he heads the Freedom and Justice Foundation who were just kicked out or their 501-3 status has just been revoked because for the three years they have existed, they have not once filed a Form 990. Gee, I wonder why they didn't file that. Because clearly the guy's a front for terrorist organizations.

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Janet Napolitano Congressional Hearing, Mohamed Elibiary

In a heated Congressional oversight hearing, Representative Louie Gohmert questioned Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano regarding Mohamed Elibiary’s access to classified databases. Napolitano refused to provide a direct yes-or-no answer regarding Elibiary's alleged downloading of documents, leading to a tense exchange over "insinuations" and committee decorum.

janet napolitano· louie gohmert· mohamed elibiary· homeland security· c-span

2:06:24 So this comes up in another two and a half, almost three hour congressional oversight committee of the Homeland Security Congressional Oversight. And Gohmert from Texas, he starts laying into Lucy Napolitano. Now this is a fantastic, really fantastic clip. It's long, so when you're tired of it, let me know, but I don't think you'll want to stop it. And I had to sit through two hours to get to this bit, but this is, this deserves to be on television, on real TV, not just C-SPAN. It is that riveting. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Madam Secretary, for being here. When you were here before back in October, we discussed, gentlemen, Mr. Eliebieri,

2:07:16 and uh... the week before he had been online using the secret security clearance that you had given him uh... when you placed him on the advisory the homeland security advisory council and he had used that to access the uh... uh... state and local intelligence community of interest classified material database and downloaded material and we had information that he had uh... shopped that uh... trying to claimed Texas was Islamophobes because they were concerned about radical Islamists. But since that time has... So it's important to just point out here this is if you're on board with the whole Sharia law pushing the Islamic agenda the whole idea is to outlaw

2:08:07 so-called Islamophobia, i.e. the irrational fear of Islam by outing people as being irrationally fearful of Islam. And what you're hearing here is that he downloaded documents and shopped that to the press to try and stir up a whole brouhaha about Texas intelligence agents and agency being racist and certainly anti-Islamic or Muslim. You told me personally at that time that you were going to look into it. You weren't going to appoint somebody, you yourself were going to look into it. So what did you find out? Okay, this is now, now I'm like, okay. There's just teeing it up. You know the guy's ready to roll, right? He knows he hasn't done crap. He hasn't done shit, no. I found out that the

2:09:00 statements that have been made in that regard are false, they are misleading and objectionable and I think they... So she immediately jumped into the objectionable because now you know the attack here is obviously hey you got people who are in fronts for terrorist organizations on your security advisory council. Okay then, madam, you need to know that you have people who are lying in your department because Texas Department of Public Safety has been told the investigation was done, he did access the classified information with his own private computer, he did download the documents that we knew he did, and

2:09:45 the one thing they could not confirm because they didn't talk to the reporter or the people that he shopped the story to, they couldn't confirm that he shopped the story. But are you saying before this Congress right now that as Secretary of Homeland Security that it is a lie that Mohammed El-Biari downloaded material from a classified website using the secret security clearance you gave him. No, this is good, this is good. What is she gonna do? Does she punt? Does she go long? Does she hold on steady? Are you saying that's a lie? I'm saying that is inaccurate, that is correct.

2:10:27 Alright, what is inaccurate about that? A number of things. First of all, we have several people on the Homeland Security Advisory Committee who are Muslim. They've been helping law enforcement for a long time. Mr. Alibieri himself was recognized by the FBI. I didn't say anything about that, so if you could confine your answer to what I said and what you find misleading in it. Well, one of the things I find misleading is that he somehow downloaded classified documents. So you're saying that the state and local intelligence community of interest database is not classified? I'm saying that he, as far as I know, did not...

2:11:11 Yeah, he's not gonna end gomer's not gonna have any of this as far as I know crap classified documents And I know one of the games it gets played sometimes about people who come up here and testify is that they have somebody not provide them adequate information so that they can come in here and say so far as I know Not to my knowledge that kind of thing and they obscure the truth has elevated You gotta see Janet's face in this case. She is flipping out now at this guy. And this is like an old little dude geezer. Yeah, this is the guy who said crap and trade at one time. She could sit on his head and kill him in 15 seconds. This is a great exchange. Status on Homeland Security Advisory Council changed. No. It did not bother you that he accessed information

2:12:01 He accessed some information. Oh, now he did access some information. Whoops. What bothers me, quite frankly, are the allegations that are made against anyone who happens to be Muslim. And this term, by the way, happens to be, this has to be banned. This happens to be Muslim, happens to be gay, happens to be black. F that. This is a bull crap, cop out bullshit statement when people say this. This really, I hear this more and more and more. You know, it's unfortunate that a man in Texas who just happens to be bi-curious, who just happens to be white,

2:12:39 This has to stop. This happens to be. When did this start, John? Where did this come from? I don't know. I should mention I'm going to have to start tracking it because it's a weasel word and it's like and it has some psychological effect on the listener and I'm not sure what it is. By the way, on various Mohammed E. Elberry. Elberry. Elberry. Elberry. The guy looks like a douchebag. Oh, a total douchebag. He just happens to be a total douchebag. He just happens to be Muslim. The allegations are not because he is Muslim. You follow me around the world. You see me hugging Muslims. I love that. I'm hugging Muslims from coast from sea to shining sea, bitches. I mean, hug me. Have you hugged your Muslim? Muslim hugger, Muslim hugger. This is a bumper sticker. Have you hugged a Muslim today around the world? Because the ones I hug are our friends.

2:13:33 and this administration seems to have a hard time recognizing members of terrorist groups who are allowed into the White House. You're aware of that happening, aren't you? Absolutely not. That's funny because it's all over the news. the evidence speaks for itself obviously you're kept in the dark on a lot of these things are you aware of what the freedom and justice party is? ooh now he's getting nasty the freedom and justice party in Egypt in Egypt? uh representative um Are you aware of what the Freedom and Justice Party is in Egypt? Mr. Chairman, uh... And this douchebag always like, Mr. Chairman, you can't be talking to Lucy like that. It's a simple question. It does not...

2:14:23 It doesn't afford an interruption. Is she aware of what the Freedom and Justice Party is in Egypt? Remember, the guy funded the Freedom and Justice Foundation, which for three years did not file their 990s. And would the Secretary respond to the question? Yes. Are you aware that Mr. Elieveri's foundation that has now been, had their charter pulled because they have failed to provide the information that the government requires to keep their 501c3 status, are you aware that that was, before the 501c3 status was pulled, called the Freedom and Justice Foundation?

2:15:02 Representative, I'm not going to get into a debate about some of this. I'm asking you if you know simple facts. I would like to. I would like to say. You say you're not going to get into debate. I don't want to debate. This is a question and answer. Are you aware of that being the name of his foundation that has now had the 501 C3 status pulled? The insinuation Can you answer the question? There's no insinuation. Mr. Chairman, in just a kind of regular order. I will allow the witness to answer the question, yes. Please, answer just the question. Representative, with all respect.

2:15:43 I believe you are insinuating that I and members of my staff... I am not insinuating anything. Yeah you are, and you're doing a great job because you're getting in their panties. You know this would by the way if the Democrats were running Congress this guy had been run out on a rail by now. Of course, of course. Luckily that's not the case because that douchebag, that other guy, I can't remember his name. LB Harry? He's always jumping in like this trying to save these other douchebags from being ridiculed like this. Can we have regular order please? Correct question. Mr. Chairman. You're not answering the question. The question is very simple. Let me say it again. Were you aware of his Freedom and Justice Foundation

2:16:25 Let me say to the gentleman from Texas, I don't think he's going to get a different answer. If you... Well, then I would ask the assistance of the chairman to direct the witness to answer the question as asked. It's very simple. It's yes or no. Was she aware or was she not? We will give the witness an opportunity to give a final answer, yes. Mr. Chairman, I would just like to say for this committee, which has a proud... That does not sound like a yes or no. It's non-responsive. Mr. Chairman, regular order. Regular order. Madam Secretary, if you'll... To an answer that is non-responsive. Okay, the answer may be non-responsive. Madam Secretary, do you have anything to add?

2:17:04 Mr. Chairman, I didn't know this was a court with rules of evidence. I was hoping I could explain my answer. Do you want to proceed to do just that? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, my question was a yes or no question. Mr. Chairman, regular order. We will allow the witness to answer the question. And the reason there are rules of evidence is so witnesses just don't go off on a lark talking about avoiding addressing the issue. The gentleman's time has expired. Does the witness have anything to add? Yes, this committee has a long and proud tradition. These kinds of insinuations demean the committee.

2:17:41 the insinuation that I or my staff would allow someone who is a terrorist to infiltrate... I have not insinuated that... Thanks for putting the words out there, Lucy. Mr. Chairman, regular order. Let me say this one more time. Let me say this one more time. I've met him a couple of times. He's a nice guy. There's no such insinuation that the Secretary of Homeland Security would come in here and make such an allegation that's unfounded in his life. Committee will be in order I understand their frustration to the gentleman from Texas But I don't believe he is going to get a different answer and the gentleman's time has expired. All right. That's it ladies and gentlemen So clearly the guy is a douche knuckle Clearly he has a bogus foundation, which has never filed forms. He's on the advisory committee. He has passwords to download stuff and

2:18:31 Come on! And apparently, according to Jihad Watch, this is the only advisory committee member that has these passwords. Yeah, I know! It's crazy! But of course, this is all a setup for our relationship with the Saudis. And interesting, remember Prince Bandar? Vaguely. He was like George W. Bush's and a senior's number one guy. He was the Saudi ambassador to Washington. He has just become the new Saudi intelligence chief. So, oh yeah, the pieces on the chessboard are really coming together now. So I encourage all of our listeners, go read that letter. It's a, it's a, what was it like a six pager? 16 pages. But it's fun to read and it's. No, it's very good to read. It's just one nail in the coffin after another. It's just completely being,

2:19:29 Which is being besmirched by the MSNBC folks and the general liberal media and publicly by douchebags like McCain. And it's... I mean, it's like, wow! How many people are in bed? How much money are these Saudis buying? It's like our entire government is bought off by these guys. And what's interesting is that the Dark Knight movie massacre wipes the entire conversation off the map. Won't be coming back. Will not be coming back. Right, it is, it's done. But we'll keep our eye on it because it's, the letter is good. The letter is good and these clips are fantastic. It's a great clip, that's Clip of the Day. Oh well, thank you all.

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

London Olympics Regulations, Syrian Participation, Logo Cops

The London Olympics are discussed in the context of strict trademark enforcement and the denial of a visa to the head of the Syrian Olympic Committee. The "logo cops" are noted for preventing the use of protected words like "bronze" or "rings," while the ubiquitous presence of the Olympic torch is compared to an internet meme.

london olympics· syria· trademark enforcement· olympic torch· usain bolt

2:20:21 So there's other news that we also overlook. Really? I'm watching Korea today and they tell us this story about Syria and the Olympics. Who knew? Oh my goodness. to pay in the London Olympics. Well, if you're looking for some actual sanctions placed on Syria's sport front, that actually has taken place in London. Because there's a chief of the Olympic Committee in Syria, Muafak Juma, and he's been denied access or entry to London because Britain has refused to issue him a visa to enter the country for any reason. Because he is a key official for President Bashar al-Assad.

2:21:01 And so far we are not sure whether Syrian athletes are going to compete in the games because some athletes who are more of a rebel related people, they have said they would rather not compete wearing a flag that they're not proud of. That's bullcrap. That is hilarious. These Olympics, by the way, we've talked about the the advertisement enforcement team. They have like 300 agents and you can't. Yeah, but you got the the logo cops, the logo cops. So there's two parts to the logo cops. One part is you're not allowed to wear any other logos except for officially sanctioned logos. But you also can't use

2:21:41 the O word. In fact, you can't use the word, you can't say Olympic rings, you can't use games, summer games, you can't use the word bronze, I think even is a protected word now in Gitmo UK. And so there's this comedian, Stuart Lee in Gitmo Nation East, and he tweeted out something funny about like, I think it was about the, you know, get some Anusol for your Olympic rings. Which is a hemorrhoid cream in the UK and you know, but everyone's like doing great on this we're sucking because he actually got the Olympic Advertisement Enforcement Office and have him remove his tweet which of course immediately went viral and everyone's retweeting the thing and

2:22:32 We need to get on this bandwagon. We need to have like all kinds of Olympic stuff all over our album art We should call ourselves the official Olympic podcast and we need to get banned. We need to get banned somehow man That's how we get some attention Everybody this is the no agenda show your official Olympic summer games podcast Don't you think that's great? What do you think will happen? What are they going to do? They're not going to shut down our advertising? Well, you know, in the USA, an entire court system in this country is in bed with it. I mean, this is all a violation of all the copyright laws. The word Olympic is a public domain term. Anyone should be able to use it. But no, they've enforced this over and over as a trademark of some sort, which is bullcrap. And I think I have the right to use it. And our courts back them up. This Olympic thing is deep. It's deeply embedded.

2:23:24 deep into the structure of society and they'll throw the book at you. Well, I think you and I have some right to the word podcast. So I think we can call this the official Olympic podcast because the primary word is podcast. The Olympic part is just we're just throwing that in. We're not saying it's the official podcast of the Olympics. It's the official Olympic podcast. Olympic podcast. We can say that. Well, since I actually have a place in the Olympic Peninsula, There you go, it's valid. What are they gonna do? Are they gonna arrest us? During that era when they were up in Vancouver, they were busting everybody in Washington State, which is the Olympic Peninsula, for using like Olympic, there'd be some Olympic shop, vacuum cleaner store, the Olympic vacuum cleaner store, and there'd be guys knocking on the door. Tell them they can't use the name Olympic for anything.

2:24:25 What kind of... They were suing them. They were suing people left and right. Yeah, so can they sue us? I mean we don't have any advertising... How am I gonna do it? They're gonna sue us. Screw them. Why should we give them any publicity? No, because we'll get publicity. We won't. Yes, we will. I'm telling you, we'll get publicity for this. We'll get no publicity. And then they'll bust into my house and they'll find my arsenal. Yeah, next thing you know you'll be in cuffs. Come on, man. Where's your sense of adventure? No, no Pussy screw them. I know I just don't think we should be giving them any sort of dates more publicity for them than us Same thing with what's going on the US. She still puts the name in the bar the Olympics Olympics Club is people gonna go to these damn games I think the Olympics is one of the most one of the worst operations ever in the history of mankind What's up with this torch? Congress granted them Congress granted them exclusive use of the word Olympic to the Olympic Committee and that's exclusive yeah, that's

2:25:29 Bullshit! Congress, that's Congress, that's your McCain. Did you see the Olympic torch they put it on top of the London Eye? I mean this thing has been running for 65 days. They keep putting this torch there. It's like, remember the 9-11 guy? Remember all those photoshops? We had like the the guy with the glasses the sun the sunglasses and you'd have like a plane flying into the World Trade Center And he showed up. It was like a meme an internet meme. Yeah, no come on. Yes, you do okay? I remember now the 9-11 guy hold on the 9-11 guy. I don't remember this guy tourist guy. That's his name. Yeah, Google tourist guy

2:26:09 So like the Fido bear? Google tourist guy and then click on images. Images for 9-11 tourist guy. Yeah. He was about 10 days... Oh yeah, this guy. Yeah, I remember him. He's like... Yeah, I like the one where the plane is coming in underneath him. That guy. That's what the torch has become. The torch is everywhere. The torch is everywhere. I went to take a crap. There was the torch in the toilet. This torch. This is like, and everyone gets to hold the torch. And there's always, and whenever someone comes near it, there's like five guys who jump on you and pound you to the pavement. Cause you know, Oh boy, you might touch the torch. Exactly. Don't touch the torch, man. It's sacred. It's the sacred torch. I'm boycotting the, you know what? The only thing I'll, if there's any hot chicks, I'll watch the Olympics. Otherwise I'm boycotting it.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Jackson Family Dispute, Katherine Jackson Missing Report

A dispute within the Jackson family emerged after Paris Jackson reported her grandmother, Katherine Jackson, as missing. While Jermaine Jackson claimed she was resting in Arizona on doctor's orders, the hosts express skepticism regarding the involvement of a doctor who previously testified in the Conrad Murray trial.

michael jackson· katherine jackson· paris jackson· jermaine jackson· probate

2:26:59 Is anyone hot looking on this show? I don't know. I just don't watch it generally. I mean, I'll watch Usain Bolt because he's kind of entertaining. I'll see if you... I'll watch the 100 meter. That's the only one I'll watch. 100 meter because it's so exciting. Yeah, that's not... Well, that's about as exciting as the Olympics are. That's the problem. Oh, look at this. Here we go. And now, back to real news. Actually, I should do a Hollywood Whackers here if I could find it. You have a Hollywood Whackers? Yeah, I do have a Hollywood Whackers. So Paris Jackson has been tweeting about her... Paris Jackson? Yeah, Paris. Yeah, Michael's kid. Yeah, Michael had like a kid named Paris. I didn't know he had a kid named Paris. Yeah, and one named Blanket. Blanket? Yeah, and one named Prince. His three kids, Paris, Prince, and Blanket. I can't look, I don't make up the names, man. I just report them.

2:28:03 So the news came out last night that Catherine Jackson who is, she was not given sole executorship over the over Michael Jackson's fortune in his will but she is like the What's the word I'm looking for? Executor? Well, there's two lawyers involved. But yes, she basically calls a lot of the shots and can do a lot of the deals because Michael really only trusted Katherine Jackson with that. And the other kids, Randy and Tito and Jermaine, they had written a letter to the judge saying, you know, this is bullcrap. We've got to get her off. She's not doing it right. She's not doing it right.

2:28:51 And then all of a sudden Paris Jackson starts tweeting that Catherine's gone missing. And the LA County Sheriff's Department confirmed that Paris Prince and Blanket had not been able to reach her all week. And they had referred her to the Homicide Missing Persons Unit. So I'm like, this is a two to the head. They're going to get rid of grandma so that Jermaine and Tito and all these losers We're just total losers who do are on like Big Brother shows because they're just losers. They're going to off the old broad to take over the money. And now all of a sudden we get an update. Mother is fine. This is from who said this? Germaine. Mother is fine but is resting in Arizona on orders of the doctor.

2:29:41 And so I'm like, oh, that's interesting. All of a sudden she's gone from California to Arizona. She has to rest from the doctor. Who is the doctor? The doctor who is recommending this quote unquote rest is Alan Metzger. That's the guy who testified for the defense of Dr. Conrad Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial. That's not the guy you want helping you out when you have some kind of medical issue. Wow. Yeah, so I'd say unfortunately I'm not giving Mama Jackson very long. She might want to stay out of hot tubs and away from other things that could get her suicided. Interesting.

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Tony Robbins Firewalk Injuries, San Jose Convention

At a Tony Robbins "Unleash the Power Within" convention in San Jose, 21 participants were treated for second and third-degree burns after a firewalking exercise. The incident is attributed to the potential use of the wrong type of wood or coal, undermining the motivational "strength of will" narrative.

tony robbins· firewalking· san jose· second-degree burns· motivational speaking

2:30:32 Then in the real news category, this one, I'm a big fan of Tony Robbins. I've listened to his power tapes back in the late 80s. Really? This is news to me. I find it inspiring. So he has this firewalk thing. He does the firewalk. Yeah, firewalk crock of crap. Yes, go on. Which I've always thought is to be, it's got to be a trick, some kind of scam. No, it's no trick. It's just something you can do as long as your feet aren't wet. So apparently, There was a Tony Robbins convention and they, where was this? Oh, it was in San Jose. And 21 people had to be taken to the hospital with second and third degree burns from the firewalk. So I think the trick, they did something wrong with the trick. Yeah, they did. That's true. They probably used, for example, there are, you know, the kind of wood that you have to burn has to be of a certain

2:31:31 friable type. Yeah, someone used the wrong wood. Somebody used the wrong product and next thing you know everyone's got their feet burned off. But I love that. I mean if you're that good at fire walking I say take coal, hard coal, bituminous coal, torch it off and walk across that and see how far you get. Well no he's not gunner, that's the whole point. That's why it was funny. It's supposed to be some magic, you know, you can do anything if you have the strength of will. Walk across the fire. They all got their feet burned up. I love the fire department captain. His quote, we discourage people from walking over hot coals. Really? You know, if they put charcoal down there, it would be bad. You know, somebody probably put, you know, Kingsford, you know, put that down and try to walk across that. So now I'm like, wow, man. So I guess he's a he's kind of scanty. I thought I thought it was real. Gibbonation lowlands just to wrap it up here.

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

Dutch Queen Insult Conviction, Free Speech Limits

A 47-year-old man in the Netherlands was sentenced to 90 days in jail and community service for insulting Queen Beatrix during a public celebration. The man reportedly called the Queen "evil" and part of the "Illuminati," highlighting the lack of absolute free speech protections in the Dutch legal system.

netherlands· queen beatrix· free speech· illuminati· jail term

2:32:30 This is from the category... Shut up, slave! 47 year old man has been given 80 hours community service and a 90 day jail term. You know why? No. During the Queen's Day celebrations he insulted the Queen. What?! Yeah. He had already served 13 days in jail in pretrial custody and he was convicted. You cannot insult the Queen. Huh, he was convicted? Is he in the slammer? No, he has 80 hours of community service and a 90 day jail term. Those three months in the slammer and 80 hours picking up garbage. What did he say? He said that, well it was like a whole thing. He said, you know, she was evil and you know part of the Illuminati, the elite. You know, but you've been saying that for a while. How come you're not in the slammer when you show up over there? I don't know if there's an extradition treaty with the Netherlands. I don't know.

2:33:33 Guess I guess they like me. I don't know. I don't know, but I've said these things for sure in fact. I'll say it again She's an evil Illuminati elitist Baby eater Just trying to get some promotion for the show John come on man Getting thrown in jail is not promotion for the show it is from are you kidding me of course is promotion for the show? Can't do the show with somebody in jail. That's the problem a bit. Oh, oh I have to do the show twice a week and one of them is you know just sending messages through the guards you know in exchange for you know behind the scene marijuana purchases. Think about the rest we'll get 90 days three months of rest. All right my friend anything you want to do you want to do an end of show clip or do you have anything? I got a couple here that there's the one the long PBS news hour

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Aurora Witness Interviews, Outro

The show concludes with a PBS NewsHour clip featuring a reporter at Gateway High School in Aurora. The reporter describes the scene where witnesses were interviewed by the FBI and families gathered to find missing loved ones. The hosts sign off, promoting the start of their summer tour.

pbs newshour· gateway high school· aurora· eyewitness· hot pockets tour

2:34:31 There's also a really funny newsroom show clip which you can play. I say Evergreen. I'll play it. I thought you weren't going to watch that. You know, I got stuck watching because it's so bad. It's so bad. It really is. I watch it. I watch it. It's really bad. I mean, it's filled with crappy propaganda that's poorly executed. The storyline is lame and it's overproduced, really overproduced. We have, this is the PBS News Hour peculiar interview that took place right after the shootings. It talked about the high school being, they get no questions. This is the end of show clip? Long PBS News Hour, maybe end of show clip it says. What do you want to do it after we say goodbye or do you want to do it now? Yeah, after we say goodbye. It's just an interesting little thing to listen to. It's kind of a rehash of what happened and a lot of unanswered questions which I think is the main theme of that whole deal.

2:35:27 Okay. Well, good. We have a No Agenda Producer Update with Mrs. Mickey. Talking about the Hot Pockets 2009 Tour, which kicks off this Saturday, everybody! In our MicroLite mini-trailer. Not the flying kind, unfortunately. As we trek through the middle part of this great United States of Gitmo Nation. Coming to you this summer. And, well, we'll see what pops up on the radar. Of course, it's going to be a hard couple of days trying to look beneath the smoke screen of Dark Knight propaganda.

2:36:11 But we'll do it, because it's what we do. Nothing better to do, and John doesn't even get out of the house anymore. I rarely do, that's why I don't know, I see one of our listeners sent me a note saying that, which I'll correct now, which is not that easy to get an AK-47 A, and B, you won't just get a carry permit in California as easily as I described it, but we'll see. And thank you Bruce Wilkie for registering MuslimHugger.com and forwarding that to KnowAgenda.com. Oh God, Muslim. Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in the capital of the drone star state of the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's a beautiful weekend, I'm John C. Dvorak. Denver Post reporter Curtis Lee was at Gateway High School in Aurora, which police turned into a command post overnight. I spoke with him earlier today. Curtis, welcome to the program. There's a command center at Gateway. You're not far from the theaters where the shootings occurred.

2:37:04 What's going on there? What have police been doing at the high school? Yeah, Ray, so Gateway High School is several miles away. A short drive like you were saying. But at the high school, early this morning, right after the shooting occurred, they bused several dozen witnesses to the high school where they conducted interviews with them. These are local police officials as well as we've heard reports of the FBI conducting interviews with witnesses. And then after those were done, about At 6.30 or 7 o'clock in the morning, they slowly began to trickle out of the high school. And now the high school is basically a staging area for people who don't know where their loved ones are, friends or loved ones are located. And that's kind of what it is right now, the Gateway High School. Did you get a chance to talk to people who were in the theater when the shootings occurred?

2:37:53 When the shootings occurred, when they exited the high school, several people described what they saw. One gentleman had said that he saw a gunman enter the front emergency entrance in full black and a gas mask on, and he threw a canister into the crowd, which appeared to be tear gas, and then just began shooting. And several people described the guy as wearing all black, a gas mask, and just very calm in what he was doing. it is remarkable that so many people were able to get out so quickly did anyone tell you how they managed to get out of the theater and not get hurt it was the it was just mass chaos uh... one gentleman in the parking lot of the high school he was uh... missing issues uh... he'd get lost issues trying to get out people were bruised and and and kind of bloody and scratched up because they were just scrambling to get out in the in the chaos of the uh... the event

2:38:47 Tell me about the people who came searching for relatives or friends. This is a crime, after all, that happened in the middle of the night. Was it late morning before a lot of people even realized what happened? Absolutely, a number of people lost cell phones in the chaos trying to get out of the theater. So they weren't able to get in touch with friends and family. So a lot of people were just rushing into up to Gateway High School. One gentleman had a picture of his son saying he can't get a hold of his son. It was just very, you know, tragic. A lot of people were in shock. They just didn't know what was going on. uh... that's what gateway is right now i it's a place for people to go give the name of someone that um... they can't get a hold up and hopefully you know get information that uh... on their whereabouts did you witness any of those reunions did people find who they were looking for realize the person they were looking for was either injured or even dead

2:39:40 Yes, several people were exiting the high school in tears, but you know I talked to them and they were there were tears of joy because they found out that their loved one is okay. They finally managed to get a hold of them. I have not spoke to someone who found out that their loved one or a friend or family member has passed away or was killed in the in the shooting. Courtesy, thanks. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave!