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00:00 The University of Nebraska's drone journalism experiment. What? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday June 21st 2012 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 419-er This is no agenda Suffering from my histeronics personality disorder here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where apparently can't tweet anymore because Twitter is down For good I'm John C. Warren is crackpot and buzzkill in the morning I worry so much that they turn on that scramble ray on your brain during the opening, and you just be like Curiously That's you now that you mention it don't tell me we have a that we both have the same clip

00:53 I have that clip, but I have that clip with a follow-up. Ooh! Shall we play the local... since this was a Rangers game the local Texas News report about Dave Barnett? Yes is that a scramble brain? Scramble Brain! Let's give a little background to our audience about this yeah We discussed this months and months ago And you had some theory about it, that's like there is something... The theory is they're setting out to scramble the brains of these idiots on TV. Yeah they are testing it with idiots on tv to scramble their brain so we can use this to control leaders speech Alright play your clip

01:34 Dave Barnett has been a play-by-play announcer for decades. But the Rangers have a hot David Murphy! But it was this sudden nonsensical episode during the eighth inning of last night's Rangers game that is receiving nationwide attention. This discussion involving a two to one game, the tying run at second leadoff single by Chase Hedley go ahead run is at fifth on what Adams is insisting I'm calling it a boss robbery actually half it was his henchman Took a piece literally out of... The incident was all the talk on sports radio today. I love the little analysis though, this is great! And at 105.3 the fan, on-air personalities and fans alike were concerned What came out his mouth last night stunned everybody. No it stunned us! Rangers confirmed today Barnett suffers from recurring migraine headaches People don't really know why it happens but people who have migraines can have neurologic symptoms that mimic a stroke and sometimes can be very difficult to tell the difference

02:36 And then they go in and play that woman who was at the Oscars a year ago. She did a really good job, that was really funny I think it's entertaining. I mean... I think we need more of this. Yeah! It's fifth in the botched robbery But no one calls out Al Sharpton There is no real conflict They don't call him out They had the thing... I think he's an idiot. They had that thing beamed on him all the time! It was like, hey watch this, i'll turn the beam on no one will know man it's Sharpton yeah so you have a follow-up to this? Well now there are couple of other clips

03:14 This is not necessarily, this is more I think it's not the beam doing anything to anyone. This is the woman who was just an idiot and this on Canadian TV, CTV. This was Bridget Brown explaining why dollars are a better investment than gold. But we played this! This is an old clip No, we didn't play it. Yes we did! Absolutely I played this months ago and i saw show up on Dvorak dot org slash draw. I don't remember you playing it? Well that doesn't... She says gold has no backing?! yes that doesn't mean we didn't play it well I know one clip that we have played will just skip right to it then which I think may have been from the beam which is a classic clip from 2007 which is the follow-up clip to The Gold Girl okay here we go

04:02 Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the US on a world map. Why do you think this is? I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that and I believe that our education like such as South Africa and Iraq everywhere like such us and I believe that they should Our education over here in the US should help the u.s Or should help South Africa it should help directly Asian countries So we will be able to build up our future for

04:46 Thank you very much, South Carolina. I'm pretty sure we played that one too! Hey yeah no we play try to play that one as much as i can the beam is on you? I would like a challenge you to flip to get me of reference to the gold clip okay and I put it out now challenge right now in the red book that you cannot find that we've played that clip you probably play it yourself all the time he think was on the show Okay, well. The South Carolina clip yeah I think we played it a couple times i just find that to be the greatest clip we've ever played. I'm uh... I think we've played better clips than that why don't you do a clip show with just that clip over and over again? That'll be awesome! So I challenge you to play Find Me referenced to the other clip okay I'll find it and if I don't find it

05:34 Our human resources will find it. Fine, I think- I don't care who finds it We'll find it. I want to find a show that clip was played and I wanna know what my reaction to it was Oh you said what an idiot Well thats not an unusual reaction But I think I would have remembered that clip because It was so dingy! I always love people when they say Hey man dont make fun of those people because they're having the stroke man That guy wasn't having his stroke No But I found this one Thank you about 8,000 people sent that to me Find it then well yeah. I found it in my email It came in and like hey look what I just found well anyway there was a lot going on this week um And I watched a heck of a lot of C-Span 3 and of course we had the big showdown between ISA and the highest Highest position

06:37 in our justice system, however they keep describing that. Attorney General Eric Holder who of course is the interference guy he runs interference for all of our presidential scams and illegality So I'm watching that hearing and you know we have all the Democrats up in arms said this is going on and they want to stall and make the hearings go on longer and longer but I was noticing something I don't know if you noticed this but I haven't seen all of them but, but i think Holder's been up to five or six times. Nine! Nine most times nine times now okay we've seen most of these we've seen them all you and I have both seen them All of them Now half the people that were there for this final hearing I've never seen their before ever oh no no they never showed up There is always empty seats and all of a sudden when they know there will be a vote on contempt of congress then they all show up what I did was John

07:36 I think it was six hours of all this bull crap because Holder wasn't even there. This was just, you know are we going to vote on a contempt of Congress which will explain what that is? By the way the one person who have never seen at this meeting ever was that dingbat woman from DC. Who was there to blather she sounded like she had the beam on her I have condensed six hours down to one minute and 30 seconds. And here's the game you play, spot the Republican and spot the Democrat it's so hard. Our purpose has never been to hold the Attorney General in contempt our purpose is always been to get the information that committee needs complete its work that is not only entitled too but obligated to do. I am horrified

08:24 that you are going forward with this contempt charge. This woman, oh man what a douche she is! When the President of the United States and the administration have invoked executive privilege for the documents sought by the chairman. This is a mistake, a major mistake and I really want to know that I think that this should be discontinued? Why would the president claim executive privilege unless there was something very, very important that he felt should not be made known to this committee and possibly to the public. I hope we have the guts and the perseverance to get to the bottom of this. We have nearly 2,000 weapons purposely given to drug cartels. We have hundreds of dead people in Mexico. We have a dead United States Border Patrol agent

09:19 And we have a government that's withholding information so that we can not only get to the bottom of it, but that we can fix it and make sure that it never ever happens again. I am frightened to think what would be going on today had Agent Brian Terry not been murdered? Would we even know about Fast and Furious or wide receiver? This is a sad day, but it is a necessary day. The notion that you can withhold information and documents from Congress no matter whether you're the party in power or not empower is wrong. So the key points here are

10:02 One, that of course a vote was passed because this is a Republican heavy committee. So Holder now goes to the House of Representatives is I guess a request for contempt of Congress which means absolutely nothing it's not going to do anything but the interesting thing is that President Obama came out and said I'm invoking executive privilege now The reason this is interesting is because executive privilege means there's something that is of national security. interest, why we cannot release whatever... Why he's essentially saying Holder as a member of the executive committee does not have to release the document or documents or whatever it is you're looking for because it's extremely important. Which means that president who always said he knew nothing about this must somehow know something about it or he's just running his own interference tactic for Holder

11:00 Whatever that is, it's interesting to go back in a little flashback to 2007. Then presidential candidates campaigning President Barack Obama about the use of executive privilege by then-President Bush. You favor executive privilege or should Karl Rove and others in that like position be forced to testify before the House or Senate? Well, you know I think we'll determine over the next several weeks how this administration responds to the very appropriate call by Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to have these individuals come in and testify. You know there's been a tendency on the part of this administration

11:48 try to hide behind executive privilege every time there's something a little shaky that's taking place. But I will never do that! I won't hide behind no executive privilege So all of that fine and good, whatever. It's just a big show and uh you know it's all oh it's political whatever we know that this is a huge non-transparent bunch of douchebags And it's not just this administration every administration since I've been alive but what blew me away on MSNBC Is Chris Matthews who took this in a completely unexpected yet very logical direction

12:29 look at this Willie Brown, Mayor Brown. I just look at it and i don't mean to use this term too much but its almost like a stop and frisk here's the chance to humiliate a distinguished member of the United States government attorney general and everybody knows close friend of the president's It is surrogate operation if he can humiliate this guy, If you get him He'll be a big star in the Republican caucus He will be Dick Nixon I do not want start too much forest fire here because that but it is my instinct Is this ethnic Mr. Mayor? I think it has some ethnic flavor to it. And I think with ethnic he means racial

13:07 They brought out the race card. Totally brought out the race card! That's part of the scheme to get a race relations soured, they get the black vote out because the blacks are not gonna vote for Obama but if they can get this riled up like that woman from DC all worked out and then you're white surrogates Chris Matthews But this is so egregious To say... Race baiting. This is so wrong! By the way, I take you back to September 29th 2011 No Agenda episode 343 The clip titled Gold Stupidity Bridget joins us now. Bridget overall how did today compare to yesterday? The biggest surprise of today was definitely gold it was down about 100... Wait wait okay you can stop it Now what's the date on this

13:59 September 29th, 2011. Okay I am not going to accept this until i go listen to the episode what was the episode number? 343 face it you're busted big mouth. Not necessarily yeah believe me. This could be bogus maybe trying to trick me I think this is totally, totally what do you call it? He didn't call it race. He called it a... What did he call it? Ethnic something or other. Yeah and I'm going all ethnic on ya John. Going ethnic dude! So back to that topic they're talking about trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat to get race baiting going on the Thom Hartmann show

14:46 He pulls out and this to me I had to actually do some research after I heard this clip. He pulls out a clip of some woman, I have to get the exact... There's two clips here and i don't want to play the second one first He pulls out, he does his letters to the editor on Russia Today now and again. And he has this woman calling about some talk show host I guess over the weekend who's a... You have to hear the talk show host appreciate that fact that she is just some local idiot but Hartman brings up some major major event and what are the two clips there? I have no idea what you're talking about

15:26 Well, there should be a clip there that says it's the monkey clips. Oh yes, I have monkey comment? Which one... you had to decide those two clips. I'm sorry? You have to play the short one first. Okay, monkey clip here we go. Short one first. Now, I would not even know nobody would even know about this is this is race baiting to me because this is some local event that took place and nobody cares about and then he's trying he's not getting very far but he's trying to make in national news Our first comment tonight comes from a big picture viewer right here in Washington, D.C.. She had this take on the Arizona radio show host who called President Obama a monkey. I am frightened could you please tell me what's going on in this world?

16:13 First of all, I have never been so hurt to hear what that lady said about Mr. Obama President Obama is a very well-educated man and this has got to see somebody has to say something about that lady from Arizona I will post it on my computer It's ridiculous They need to stop Any other president they put on there That you cannot talk about the president or you will be locked up Why haven't they locked her up? Bye bye. She's on shortwave. Like be locked up, that is the way these people feel now here's the question that comes to mind first of all and I do have the clip of the woman uh i dug that out for a woman in Arizona why is what what woman what black woman in Washington DC is listening into Arizona right wing talk radio

17:08 Well, it's probably like us watching C-SPAN all day. I mean there are people who really have nothing better to do. Yeah, yeah, that is exactly what it is. And we've got... Oh sorry! Go ahead now this is the woman and this is like a laughable show and by the way you call her out on it Tom Hartman goes on and says oh they never said a thing. Hey your Skype was cutting in and out of little bit can you jiggle your wire while I play the clip? to on the phone uh... richard adjacent here with the jalan and randy and carlton myself yeah i bought everybody are we share people would have a good from the who runs the shows in all that they ask everybody who goes on these shows i'd like to know how many people really uh... voted for that idiot sitting at a white house

17:54 And anybody who says that they don't know anybody who's trying to destroy this country, all you have to do is see that rabbit ears guy who was sitting in the White House and what he's done for this nation in three years. I sit here wondering why I spent 30 years at a Marine Corps defaming this country against communism and two tours in Vietnam. All right so I got it monkey I found a shocking clip on AM radio of Peter Gabriel. Are you there? Yeah, okay right now better sound better well no in a minute did you upgrade to premium Skype while you were at it because that I'm not upgrade but this is scam that's guaranteed to make it sound better yeah so anyway so the the I guess the point of all this is the racial tensions are being ratcheted up and Tom Hartman seems to be right on board with doing that

18:54 Yeah, no there's no question about it. And then he also did the way he did... The thing that's funny is that they never said who this woman's name was. In fact I have to go look it up again but It was just a cat. It was weird because this is a show that probably has Maybe 5,000 listeners in Tucson or wherever it is. No one watches Tom Hartman either John Yeah well he's got 6,000 he probably has a thousand more than she does yeah But he's on Russia Today so there is a feed that goes out with him on it Anyway let me say In the Morning to you John C Dvorak Well In the morning to you Adam Curry and good morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water and feet in the air

19:36 Say That's it. Oh there goes the ray again. Oh boy We've got turn off the death right this is a rambler and the stolen third bank robbery And in the morning to all the human resources in our chat room no agenda stream calm No agenda chat net all charged up ready to go depleting your lifetime value of nine point two million dollars we're happy to have you all here and There's boy I almost don't even know where to start with actual news that is taking place, that is not being reported. I think probably the G20 was quite interesting there were a number of fascinating things that were said during the G20 and by the way did you look at the logo of the G20? Have you seen any of the pictures

20:33 Have seen the logo of the g20. It's like total illuminati stuff it's like yeah, well, it's just one of those here Pyramids man is like they're all standing in front of a huge pyramid with a little eye there in the middle That says G 20. It's I think the whole thing is just crazy so Barasso who is it? Oh yeah we really have two guys running the show in In the United States and Brussels and Heiko Herman Van Rompuy, the unelected president. His job is kind of to be the statesman, the calm guy and he's cracking a little bit around the scenes but Barroso totally lost it when he just went off the reservation and completely blamed the United States for everything. Let's work cooperatively for this! Let's work together! By the way this crisis was not originated in Europe

21:34 since you mentioned North America, this crisis was originated in North America. And many of our financial sector were contaminated by – how can I put it? You gave me the clap! Unorthodox practice from some sectors of the financial market but we are not putting blame on our partners what we are saying is let's work together when we have a problem, global problem What an idiot! You know, we had... when this whole thing began and we were trying to contain it with the 2008 collapse. Europeans and bankers and the governments would have nothing to do with it they had nothing to do with us there wasn't anything about working together they told us it was our problem we can eat crap yeah And then essentially they had no involvement They didn't want involvement and now their bitching

22:36 And so, uh... our friend Nigel Farage He's invited of course to speak about this on several television programs and he shows up, it must have been Fox. And he just kind of laid it right out there you gotta love the guy for it. So what do you think of this claim that its the fault of the United States? The problems that Europe has Well remember, remember this bloke is an idiot I mean a real complete idiot Oh! And I forgot to tell you... He's also a communist So that was the kind of headline grabbing soundbite of Barroso. But he went on and I want you to listen, now of course there's a language barrier but also the guy is an idiot but it sounds like... The words he is using, and I think for a statesman just got to be careful, he sounds like a mafia thug Listen to this He said in Europe we are open democracies not all members of G20 are democracies

23:35 But we are a democracy and we take decisions democratically. Sometimes this means taking more time. We have to go slowly with our slaves but we get what we want anyway? Yes, because we are a union of 27 democracies and we have to find necessary consensus but frankly they're not coming here to receive lessons in terms of democracy or in terms of how to handle the economy because the European Union has a model that you may be very proud off. We are not complicit about difficulties, we are extremely open I wish that all our partners were so open about their own difficulties. We are extremely open and we are engaging with our partners, but we certainly are not coming here to receive lessons from nobody."

24:32 I don't know, when that came out it seemed like it was just...I think these guys have already just marginalized themselves. I don't think anybody's paying any attention to any of this EU stuff especially with Barroso he's not even as entertaining as the other guy Haiku Herman So what happens is Barroso goes off and starts yelling at everybody And basically the 19 other of the G20 or whatever, like we didn't come here to get no lessons from nobody. Shut up! We know what we're doing but of course they don't and I think that Haiku Herman and Douchebag Barroso are well aware that this is... Of course he's telling the truth. We as the United States financial sector are systematically bringing down the euro

25:22 And I think and it's now more obvious than ever now that he's actually saying, hey guys like stop. You know you're doing this. He's blaming it on history and of course the reason why is we need to have our dollar to be the ultimate currency of the universe in the euro just has to go down. That's why Moody's keeps coming out with downgrade downgrades got they even going to downgrade the UK banks? I mean there's just continuous attack after attack And the only thing that they can do is try and turn this crisis into something good. And now they're turning into, or they're turning to the economic union which of course is what should have happened in the first place but they never sold it as such They sold it as a great you don't have to change any of your money at the border So Haiku Herman's job is to go out and basically calm everything down But he so freaked out

26:18 That the only thing, I mean you just have to listen to what he's saying. I know it's kind of hard it's like a minute and a half and his English is atrocious But listen to how he's desperately trying to say, we're going to make it all happen. By the end of the year, we'll have an economic union trust me it's okay We're gonna have an economic union. We got what? We're all gonna fix it come on please! We discussed a state-of-play of the world economy and there are a lot of weaknesses not only the problems in the eurozone Of course but also the volatility on the oil markets The internal imbalances in a lot of countries in the United States in China and other places And all of us who are working on correcting those imbalances. Of course in the Eurozone we have to continue our policy with much more energy even than in the past, so combining fiscal consolidation differentiated depending on the countries with a strong growth policy focused on investment

27:11 and then at the same time deepening our economic and monetary union. And this will be the main theme of the European Council by the end of this month, we have to go through a more financial integration, to more fiscal integration, to more economic integration And that's what we have to do. And we are working on it, I will propose building blocks for deepening our economic and monetary union so that we can show the rest of the world and to the markets that the euro and the eurozone is a irreversible project and that we want to deepen it and give it a strong policy infrastructure. A common currency needs also more common policies, and thats our main task for the European Council of the end of June We are working on it everybody is fully aware of this they're supporting us they're encouraging us They are confident in the fact that we can overcome this crisis And so the council of June will be important

28:15 But in June, we will launch a project and that we will finalize by the end of this. It just keeps repeating over and over don't We're going to do what we're gonna do. I'm like how What is this building blocks? How's he gonna do it And I found the document it's called The single The second Single Market Act Have you even heard of this No, I almost fell asleep during that clip So I'm gonna have to look it up now Yeah, no, it's boring but it's important To hear how stressed out these guys are So the single, um... The second version of the Single Market Act is a 12-step program. Which is funny by itself! And I'll just highlight and then of course all these documents in the show notes 419r.nashownotes.com so here's how they're gonna do it. Here's how they're going to integrate uh..these 27 countries. So first of all we have the Single Market for Venture Capital

29:15 which means that it's a regulation, they'll provide all managers of qualifying venture capital funds with a European marketing passport to allow access to eligible investors across the European Union. So you can go get money from anywhere apparently and this is where it gets kind of scary. A modern system for the recognition of professional qualifications? This is where your ID card comes in. Well this is not well there's no This is a, there's that but this is really about licensing journalism. Licensing everything so in other words you can't be a writer without a license. I'm a writer without a license! It states in the document even architect

29:56 You can't be an architect. Here it says, the proposal will modernize the harmonized minimum training requirements for certain professions benefiting from the automatic recognition which will be through the IMI, the internal market information system in particular doctors nurses midwives and architects No idea why architects shows up and not all of a sudden. I feel more than that before this is oh, I totally agree We actually discussed this before this isn't old This goes back to April 2011 June actually this the second one since the second doc it's a market Okay, right April. This is okay. This is the one that what was the date on this document? I have June 2011 It's what I have okay

30:40 So the first was in April then yeah, this is the second but you're right. It's a international standards for organizations So I totally agree with what you're saying that it'll certainly be for journalists You can't be a journalist or you can't be a blogger posing as a blunder list By the way already taking place in many countries Brazil For example well you have to be licensed to be a blogger we have to be licensed to be a journalist and Really? Yeah, you have to have a license. In fact, a friend of mine who writes computer columns had to take a test and gets away with it without having the license but he can never call himself a journalist or reporter He calls himself... there's always a bypass There is always a trick around it But he's always worried sick that they're going to bust him They are going to close that loophole So here is the cross-border use of electronic identification authentication and signature

31:36 legislation for a framework for electronic identification, authentication and signature in the second quarter of 2012. So this is coming up now! The proposal will provide for mutual recognition and acceptance of official eIDs between member states which address existing legal and cross-border interoperability problems for eSignature so everyone in Europe is going to have to have a biometric ID card And then of course we have the carbon tax, which is point number nine. Oh there we go! The aim of the proposal is to restructure the way energy products are taxed to take into account both their CO2 emissions and energy content so you're getting a carbon tax on top

32:25 the actual content of the energy that you're using. And that's point nine and that, of course really integrates everything because you'll be paying that tax to Brussels as we've been saying for years I think... For years! Let me see if there was anything else that was of interest Oh well of course they have a website The New Your Europe portal So they spent a couple million EU on that Then there's just a whole timeline of when everything is going to go into effect. So whether it works or not and whether it keeps the Euro and European Union afloat, which is doubtful you're getting a whole bunch of regulation now interesting on the financial side Finland has thrown a little monkey wrench into the machine

33:19 For the ESM, the European Stability Mechanism. This is basically the fund that will commit every single Eurozone nation to basically writing a blank check whenever Brussels needs it Finland has rejected the proposal to use ESM and ESF money to buy government bonds unless they have some kind of collateral So they're not going to ratify and you need I think 99% to ratify this and like, wow Finland that's interesting because who is visiting Finland this very moment? You're gonna tell me. Clippity-clop Hillary Clinton! Who else would it be? So you know how that goes It's like hey man we got to get someone to mess this stuff up Hey Hillary can't go do something yeah no problem Which brings us to Sweden

34:23 Okay, right and right right down the road is really going on with this Assange Thing going to him going to Ecuador. I think it's a smoke screen well I think the guy probably raped some chicks and doesn't want to get Doesn't want to get too thrown in jail Well there's there that's always a possibility but he He's doing a good job of not communicating that but I think the whole, I think this Ecuador thing was something that the US set up because we were on, not overtly but covertly because we are in bad terms with Ecuador. Because there's a deal

35:02 with Chevron oil who apparently polluted the whole country. Right, according to at least we haven't seen the pollution so we don't know for sure and but Ecuadorians say that they did in this Chevron people say no it wasn't us So maybe it's just like witness protection program for Assange is that what you think? We put him there... we don't want to deal with let's say he goes to Sweden and now all these nut balls in the united states that we republicans and democrats who what shake their fist saying this guy's a traitor even though he said it's american we gotta get him in bring them in and try em Well, we don't really want to do that because it's going to be embarrassing and stupid. Right And a waste of everybody's time and money Yeah So you... but what are you gonna do with everybody shaking their fists? You gotta ditch the guy somewhere! Right Ecuador is a good place Ecuador is a good place and then somewhere down the road you know you can tell Ecuador well he might have had an unfortunate accident We could have... yeah or get food poisoning Oops

36:04 Oops, sorry. Sorry Julian But I don't think this guy's...I think this whole thing about oh the Americans want an extradited from Sweden and Sweden is going to play ball which would embarrass the Swedes too they don't want to deal with that No You know, their country's got a certain reputation to uphold so they gotta get this guy out of the... he's gotta be taken out of the loop. So let's push him into Ecuador and then somehow I think they're gonna sneak in or either make him stay in that embassy in London forever or they can sneak him out which I think is what's going on. I think that's as good a spot for them. Keep him in the embassy Just keep him away! He's annoying. Do you want me to play this clip that you have here?

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40:53 So it's not too bad to be idle for a month or two as the Greeks all know. If the karma works I'll be able to donate, keep the donations up. All right here is some gig during this summer in Greece Karma. You've got karma! Thank you for supporting the program as a new value-for-value producer and we have 2 more executive producers Alexander Selznyov who is in Espoo Sir Alexander do you actually? Dear John and Adam here's my contribution to the best podcast in the universe. In hopes that you guys get, hope for you guys to get by through the holiday period. Help us get by through the holiday period! I'd like to request a little bit of karma from myself and the rest from you and everyone else who is supporting this show keep up the good work Alex. Perfect thank-you so much Alex appreciate it. You've got Karma

41:44 Meanwhile we have a bevy of knights. This is like four little helmets on the spreadsheet here. Forrest Love Marinoff on the spreadsheet here. It's like pride stickers on high school football helmet. EOPAO California, congratulations to his mother and to his mother my new human resource send karma to the whole family this donation should be enough to make all three of my human resources no agenda knights Here is their names Yasin Marinoff 7 Simian Marinoff 7 of age Darren Marinoff born today 619. He must be the youngest knight. That would be the youngest knight he has a garrison John Apparently, yes a whole garrison of Knights And then he has the calculation. He's been giving us a lot of money recently yeah, yeah, so he's got three nights coming up and Now I don't know if this came in from his wife because it sounds

42:37 Like it might be but no family is very deeply involved with the show that I love patrons Yeah, and now we have a bunch of kid young knights carry the torch. That's our yeah Let's throw some karma to the garrison from Aliso Vallejo California. Yeah karma Awesome All these executive producers, unfortunately we have no associate executives today. We did come in a little low for their help and remind people to go to NoAgendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, Dvorak.org slash NA and ChannelDvorak.com slash NA as a backup but Dvorak.org slash NA is the primary point which has some of the latest

43:21 giving models. Yes, and also want to thank Nick the Rat for the album art on the previous episodes MP3 file and the credits in the show notes on no agenda 4 1 8 Nick always great to have you Putting stuff in you can see all of the artwork at Noah Jenna art generator comm and remember we also have the knowage in the news out for your iPhone and iPad and Also listed in the show notes. You'll find where you can get a torrent file of each of the no agenda programs via bit love bit love org And this is a value for value proposition. We work very hard for you during the week, we're watching C-SPAN 3 with joy I have to say but still you know we then condense it down so you don't have to watch all of that tedious crap. Devorak dot org slash N A and of course you can always go out and propagate our important formula Our formula is this...we go out we hit people in the mouth

44:31 Come on everybody say it like you mean it kiddies! SHIT! I'm glad you got that back. I love that kid That kid rocks Yeah, well...I can imagine her being a- You should see the video of her She's quite frightening when she does it There's a video? Yeah, that's where this is from yeah A whole audition video She has a couple other ones What's this one uh It's the distraction of the week No, that's her brother Where's the uh, maybe it's uh, maybe it's this one Can you imagine that on a sunday The kid standing next to your bed yelling that in your ear my goodness That's just horrible. Hey I got one for and I have it in the show notes You know just speaking of greece where our executive producer yerun is from there's this fantastic documentary called katastroika

45:34 which was funded by Crowdsource. It's about an hour, like an hour and 10 minutes a great I mean really great documentary which shows exactly how... And this is something that we caught on to quite awhile ago that the austerity measures that are being implemented in Greece and of course actually worldwide now, are not so much about... well yeah it's blamed on public servants making too much and retiring when they're 15 and all this stuff but it really is about privatization. And this documentary shows the parallels between uh the privatization of Russia

46:13 and how we got the oligarchs, and the privatization of the well certainly European nations. But it's happening in America too. And how Siemens... basically it's about rail transport electricity water these are the main things that have to be privatized and then essentially turn the entire country into one slavedom with oligarchs Highly, highly recommended. Katastroika! You should watch it too John I think you'll enjoy it. Yeah no I'm looking at now and you have to get the link I have is the one with English subtitles translations pretty good but there's also some interviews with with English speakers in there but its really outstanding I just looked like oh my goodness this is really good

47:00 So it really helps you understand what we've been talking about for a while. You know that this is really a huge privatization effort and the more I watch it, the more I'm like doesn't matter what we do, we are just so screwed just might as well admit it. No, I think the more we do this show, the more we realize that The only, the long-term purpose is to make people actually maybe even doing the evil forces a favor which concerns me a little bit because people understand what's going on and then they become, they see the futility of fighting. Just give up! Maybe we should stop doing this show? Well if it becomes a detriment then we probably should

47:54 That's something to ponder, by the way. You just hit me with that I'm like are we really helping at this point? I don't know! We're probably playing into their cards! Maybe we should just take our information and analysis and our deconstruction tricks... Go elsewhere! ...and keep them to ourselves and you know go get a nice place in South of France. Yeah sure it's real cheap down there It's not as expensive as you think We were having coffee at Halcyon here in the city. Austin's a city, it is? Yeah! It was like two million people, it's a city and qualifies And I was talking to the guy and he... you know of course doesn't take too long before someone says what the hell do you actually do? Because yeah I did my no agenda cocktail stuff You know its like oh this is what this about here how does goes

48:53 He says, what do you actually do? I said well i'm a government legislation analyst and but then I kind of explained about the show. Now this guy he works for... it's like some nondescript company. He says you've never heard of us. It said they only work for hedge funds and they basically do for hedge funds what we do for the slaves of Gitmo Nation And he says that they actually were partially responsible, and I bring this up because you guys are talking about on the Horowitz show. That they were partially responsible for blowing wide open that whole Sealy Posturepedic Mattress scam and basically blowing up that stock. He said, You know, you could probably make a lot of money working for me. So the kind of research you guys do? Yeah well there's a lot of those guys out there

49:48 You know, a lot of it is you have to wonder if it's uh... A lot of his logic. I mean the Horowitz was on this bed thing He kept seeing all these advertisements on TV there was way too many of them! I mean you've seen them There's this sleep comfort this and that and one ad after another they're all on the radio constantly And his question was how many mattresses do people buy? I mean, i haven't bought a mattress for long time and i don't see myself buying one. You should buy new mattress every 10 years at least. That's hardly a major turnover that gonna get these stocks skyrocketing. It just the whole thing was sketchy. It is all technology PR bullshit about the new technology of the mattress it's all bull crap but anyway he says you know if you want to talk

50:41 Yeah? Well good. I gotta tell you there was a second, i'm like hey wait a minute... Yeah you should have said yes! Wait a minute! Why even give it a second thought? You can do both?! This is good this is crazy! Seems to me he could do both Those of you not living in Gitmo nation proper here uh you're lucky You have not been inundated with the pedo bear scandal that is taking place now. The trial of Sandusky, this of course is the guy who was pedobearing all these kids and pedovania and then this on TV all the time And what no one's looking at is the second mile charity which by the way has just been dissolved

51:33 So this charity that had been going on for like 35 years, of which Sandusky was the founder I guess. One of the founders and allegations are of course at this you know that's basically where he... The front organization? Yeah, the front organization run by some douchebag who has just disappeared He resigned and disappeared This whole thing is just gone It's like they dissolved it its now folded into I think the Arrow Ministries or something And so of course, you know this is a main guy the Sandusky I You know football coaches in general have high standing amongst the elites in America and So miss Mickey and I are having a conversation about you think this guy's gonna get off? And I'm like no haven't really pondered it because they're so annoying just to hear us over and over when the real story Is about the foundation the front

52:23 And then I saw a news report, and it's like oh of course he is going to get off. And here is why... Rick, if you depending on how you interpret it he's kind of saying yeah You know I do some kids but not all of them But it's what the reporter says after that that caught my ear. I would guess there are many young people who would come forward many more young people Who would come forward and say that? My methods And and what I had done for them

52:59 made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped, there are many that I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many many ways." Sandusky underwent a prosecution psychiatric exam this past weekend. The judge ordered it when he said that the defense could offer evidence from an expert that many of his behaviors could be explained by a syndrome called histrionic personality disorder. Brian? There you go, histrionic personality disorder

53:43 Of course, that's how he is going to get out of it. Because the other guys they just killed him right? Oh I'm sorry he died of cancer oh he fell down the stairs and broke his hip whatever you know The unimportant little lieutenants in this huge pedo bear scam that just killed him off This guy is a ringmaster so he's gonna get off on histrionic personality disorder which of course is defined by the American Psychiatric Association in the DSM-IV a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking including an excessive need for approval and inappropriately seductive behavior hello so there's no it's gonna be the Michael Jackson

54:30 Although I'd absolutely believe Michael Jackson was not a pedophile, he was asexual. But it's gonna be the defense of you know look there is no evidence, there is no proof show me a smoking gun so to speak and by the way that guy just suffers from HPD Oh okay well we'll give him some treatment You know they can go off for little while and then...I wonder if there is a treatment? I haven't looked at this oh treatment here we go what is the treatment Treatment is often prompted by depression associated with dissolved romantic relationships medication does little to affect the personality disorder But may be helpful with symptoms such as treatment of HPD itself involves psychotherapy and cognitive therapy We'll give them some psychotherapy in cognitive therapy guys getting off so to speak As it were well, there's a dirt you felt that way from the beginning because the area seems to be up. I

55:24 And life and and the judge called for this I mean the legal system is infested with these people Although, I do think it's kind of cool that pedo bear showed up outside the courthouse. Did you see that? guy dressed in a pedo berry suit Way to go inner webs we know what's really gonna arrest that guy yeah of course HPD assets histrionic personality disorder It's a beaut so i'm uh i'm figuring that National Treasure News Hour, the PBS news show. They always compromised? Well I think...I don't know if they're compromising. I noticed that they're leaning a little left but not too much but I figured that they were getting it there's this slow news period. You have a lot of stuff is really look at we got to Peter Bear guy we get it Hey man! Peter Bear is always lead

56:25 Peter Bear got we got the hearings and is but there's not a lot of you know A little bit about Europe does not really a lot and to prove it You have to listen to this teaser And tell me this is not the most we're hard up to keep you listening to the show teaser I've never heard anything like it on on PBS ever up the economy Still to come on the NewsHour, Attorney General Holder held in contempt of Congress. A powerful labor union looks to its future. Poet Natalie Diaz on saving her Native American language and how Americans in Germany viewed the rise of Adolf Hitler

57:02 It's shit they had on the shelf really yeah, that's Yeah, it's like oh. They pulled the Hitler card I Actually did find a piece on PBS from the NewsHour no less by the way that woman she can't read prompter What's her name black woman who wrote the pro-obama book? Oh she can't she can't read The Prompter She's always stumbling and bumbling is like you know then they don't need to turn the ray on her She just sucks So they got this guy on, they're talking about some expert of course and they're talking about the leaks from the administration. And he says something that I thought was you know if PBS is going to propagate these lies

57:44 You know, well listen. There's also a concern that other governments will not trust the United States so much if there is a pattern of leaking So there are some serious concerns here about what the implications would be now the probably the most egregious leak in a sense is news that the United States was behind this cyber weapon Stuxnet against Iran because what they did with their confirmation of that fact meant is that the United States is now seen as an aggressor in cyberspace. No one else had ever used a cyber weapon in an offensive way before, so now all the US... Hello? Wow! Really?! No one's ever used an offensive cyber weapon before?

58:36 I don't know, what is he talking about? Stoxnet. He's saying that no other country has ever done that! Yeah but what does he mean? What is he talking about? These things have been around forever and we've done a lot of them in fact back in the old day of the Morris worm. Well let me tell an anecdote. Okay do that The Morris worm, which I believe was... when was that? You can look it up and get the date. But this is decades ago! This is one of the first computer worms ever developed and it was put onto the network And the writer at The New York Times was complaining to me

59:16 Once yeah that his original story. I'd love to find the original story which discussed the fact that and on the blackboard As he was describing it of the guy of the office of the coders dad who's a very famous computer scientist there was a bunch of apparent apparently code with in Russian huh, and we were it appears as if we were out there cybering Russia's with these network analysis tools and these worms, you know 15-20 years ago. And the Chinese of course have known for like sending stuff over to us and the Russians too I mean a lot of this the worms that come over here or these malware systems they come over here to analyze the systems and steal secrets

1:00:05 often go through a very interesting process whereby you have bootleg copies of Windows distributed all throughout China and those have Russian code on them which then when you implement, install the product. You end up installing some malware bots that are then sent from looks like China when in fact they're really checking back into Russia this has been going on to an extreme for the last at least 15 years. It's ridiculous! In the Boston Museum of Science, they have a little glass case with a floppy disk in it containing the source code of the Morris worm. We gotta go visit that! It's just a floppy disk it could have anything on it I'm telling you there is a picture on their wiki page There's a black floppy disc...it's probably and old AOL disc

1:01:03 It's in a glass case the Morris Worms source code Wow favorite thing about all this is the ease in which some of this can be implemented the classic one Which was which Kevin Mitnik? Talked about it his book the classic way to get these things distributed and especially in a company that doesn't work so much with floppies anywhere but you can still do with a DVD that you can you can mount and and you leave a DVD or you go to somebody's some office and you leave a DVD. And put porn on the label? No, no, no! You put the DVDs as confidential payroll information for all employees Right

1:01:43 And there's not a person in the world who saw that disc, it has all the payroll information because we keep it big secret in this country. It is not like Sweden where everybody knows what everybody else is making or Finland. They would put it and see what the hell was going on to see if they were making money so they could bitch about it and of course it would trigger load something and then next thing you know thats what happened I believe in Iran because there was no other way getting in their but you just leave a disc around I'm still skeptical that all this stuff actually, uh... Actually was created by our government. Our government can't do anything right Well they didn't do this right They got caught Right There you go And and Anyway What is it? What are these things doing? Apparently Flamer Which is what I like to call it Is a network analysis tool above all So it goes in and will

1:02:37 And by the way, these things have been around forever and they used to have to pay a lot of money for them. They will go in and do a network analysis. In other words, the code hits the network and it finds out where all the computers are and what their capabilities are. It gives you a map then these were usually used in corporations to streamline various processes that look for bottlenecks or whatever. More importantly John, The war on weed is ratcheting up And oh yeah, oh yeah. Real heavy because while this Fast and Furious was going on we also had a DEA committee

1:03:21 Talking about marijuana, but I'll just give you the discourse first from CNN and fewer teens are smoking cigarettes according to a new study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention But more teens are smoking marijuana which contains as much as 70% more cancer-causing agents tobacco smoke How does this mean keep cropping up when it's been debunked over and over again? well so here is the I think senator or congressman from Colorado And he is a... By the way, you picked that off of CNN. I followed up on your commentary about the ratings these guys are getting? Yeah. CNN is...I thought MSNBC was bad! CNN is worse! No it's nobody watching

1:04:08 It's unbelievably bad. The douchebags are watching and they find it's like a circle jerk. You know, you get on Wolf Blitzer and then you know that the other agencies are watching It's like a walkie-talkie system. That if you want to communicate something to the CIA just go on Wolf Blitzer See if Pentagon wants to communicate something to Lucifer? Just get on Wolf Blitzer That whole thing is... it's a sham

1:04:54 But on C-SPAN we have this wonderful hearing and so here we have the representative from Colorado who of course has a point to make about medical marijuana in his state but he, the way he's grilling this woman from the DEA is just awesome. Gentleman's time has expired The gentleman from Colorado Mr Polis Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I'd like to begin by following up because on my colleague Mr. Cohen's questions and I want to try to get a clear answer to make sure the Drug Administration uh Enforcement Administration is aware of some of the evidence. Is crack worse for a person than marijuana?

1:05:41 I believe all illegal drugs are bad. Is methamphetamine worse for somebody's health than marijuana? I don't think any illegal drug is good. Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? I mean, either yes or no. If you don't know, you can look this up and should know that this is the chief administrator for the Drug Enforcement Agency. I'm asking a very straightforward question. Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? All illegal drugs are

1:06:16 Does this mean you don't know? Heroin causes an addiction. It causes many problems and it's very hard to... I think she doesn't know the answer. So does that mean the health impact of heroin is worse than marijuana, is that what you're telling me? I think you're asking a subjective question. No, it's objective just looking at the science this is your area of expertise. Science! I'm a lay person but i've read some of the studies and aware of that. I'm just asking you as an expert in the subject area Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? And I am answering as a police officer and as a DEA agent

1:06:56 These drugs are illegal because they are dangerous, because they are addictive. Because they do hurt a person's health. So heroin is more addictive than marijuana? Is heroin more addictive than marijuana in your experience? Generally the properties of heroin yes it's more addictive. Is methamphetamine more addictive than marijuana? Well both are addictive Why is methamphetamine more highly addictive than marijuana? It just goes on and on and on. Her face is priceless. Who IS this douchebag, why don't you give her a douche bag call out! I think I shall. DOUCHEBAG! Marijuana. Wow

1:07:35 If you let it play a little longer, it's clip of the day. Oh hold on... I think some people become addicted to marijuana and some people become addicted to methamphetamine You mentioned that your top priority is abuse of prescription drugs Is one of the main classifications of prescription drugs painkillers that you're concerned about? That's correct And are those painkillers addictive Yes they are very addictive Are those painkillers more addictive than marijuana Nailed ya, bitch! All illegal drugs are...

1:08:11 in Schedule 1 are addictive? Well, again this is a health-based question and I know you're obviously of law enforcement background but i'm sure you're also familiar given your position with the science of the matter. Science! And I am asking clearly your agency has established abuse of prescription drugs as the top priority Is that therefore an indication that prescription drugs are more addictive than marijuana All illegal drugs are addictive. Okay, your agency has established abuse of prescription drugs as its top priority you've indicated as much to us does that mean that abuse a prescription drugs is a greater threat to the public health than marijuana? Because it's an emerging in emerging threat because people are turning to prescription drugs then faster than any other drug That is why we prioritize it

1:09:06 You're fired. You're so inspired name I have to like and look it up Let me just see she is an embarrassment Well, he nailed her though is like because you know after this of course he goes right into To essentially saying well then yo what's your what's your problem with marijuana? The question he should have asked is, well so if marijuana was legalized would it be not addictive anymore? Well here's how he finishes up. Well in many states including my home state of Colorado we have a legalized and regulated regime of medical marijuana and we've found some great degree success in combating the abuse

1:09:49 of prescription drugs by making sure the patients have access to medical marijuana, which the science indicates and I would certainly encourage you look at the sciences less addictive and less harmful to human health. And some of the narcotic prescription drugs that are abused and also when they're used on label they can be very harmful to health as well. Yeah so i'm just looking at the clip now it's Michelle Leonhart L-E-O-N H-A-R-T Administrator for the DEA Wow Do I get it? She's a high official Yeah, do i get it? Yeah, you hit it Yeah no he but he tricked her He tricked her Could have tricked her better Well It made for an entertaining four minutes

1:10:45 I mean of all the C-SPAN we have to watch. So, I wonder what... The angle here to me always with it especially with this current attack on marijuana seems to be..I'd like to find some orchestration evidence and i think there probably is some with some public relations companies for Solvay Pharmaceuticals. Solvay Pharmaceutical? What's that? Solvay Pharmaceuticals makes a product called Marinol which I believe will be pushed in the next few months, you can put it in the book or I can put it in the book. It's the marijuana pill but is not really a...it's called dronabinol So its synthetic? Its a synthetic yes and our products let me see what their products are And I believe that will become the so we should invest in this company then Oh! That's good question, good point

1:11:41 Let's take all that $500. Yeah, I was gonna put on a pharmaceuticals on Facebook Can we make a bundle can we make a real bundle? I think it's gonna eventually become a huge product They're gonna sell it and so will you get high off of it or does it has none of the the groove now It's got nothing going on like well then what's the point oh Well, that's for the drug part because everyone is saying it was medical marijuana for this and this other medicine. This is the argument against medical marijuana there's not the argument against legalization of all marijuana as an intoxicant So their page is not low... The interwebs in general are not great today It looks like maybe part of Abbott Labs Now we're talking big money Abbot labs yeah Yeah so they would be behind this Ok well I'll definitely delve into that

1:12:34 What is this? Solveig... looks like the... Hold on a second. Letter to our customers, Solveig Pharmaceuticals now part of Abbott! This just happened! Huh So they just bought these guys and the next thing you know we're seeing all these stories come out. Coincidence I think not Good one John C. Dvorak The combination of our two organizations will enable us to better serve the needs of patients across the globe We do not expect any significant changes in our relationship or how we do business with you during this transition. Hmm, interesting well that's pretty telling and there is a patent I think they have a patent don't they? Yeah no there are something like two or three patents for this crap let see what it is There was a thing on the patents I was looking at

1:13:30 Yeah, this stuff we have to keep an eye on it. Which is this... So this kind of makes sense you know so Marinol M-A-R-I-N-O-L So she got nailed into it but our drugs are I think here's what the problem is We still need people to stay on our legal drug system. And so what all dealers do is you have to cut out the competition, you have to market your product that it's a... You got the better weed or whatever. Now in this case this woman just came unprepared and she just got nailed but on CNN again, The Douchebag Elite Channel What's his name? Gil Kerlikowske who was our drug czar

1:14:19 They put him on regarding the zombie drug, which CNN still calls the zombie drug. Designer drugs that may be turning people into zombies I love that what a tease The designer drug that maybe turning people into zombies! You've heard all about this The White House drugs are on the bizarre behavior of People who take bath salts and what did the government is doing about it? Welcome back. 39 minutes past the hour through a string of bizarre incidents across the country, A designer drug known as bath salts went from being virtually unheard of to taking the national spotlight in what many are calling a drug. Now notice what she's saying there

1:14:56 Because that is true. Virtually unheard of because it was not a big deal and it still is unheard of amongst people who thank you well although I hope people have received a couple notes from people who've used it like yeah, it's not great whatever epidemic It all started late last month when Rudy Eugene suspected to be under the influence of these bath salts allegedly attacked a homeless man and bit over 80% of the victims safe before being shot and killed by police. There have been at least four other violent incidents across the country since then, and US lawmakers are now scrambling to try to find a solution to this. And joining me now from Washington is Gil Kerlikowske he is the director of White House Office of National Drug Control Policy that's quite a mouthful it's nice to see you this morning thank you for being with us

1:15:46 I want to start talking about explaining bath salts because i know we've had this information a lot out there but, I just want to be very clear that this is not what you buy to use in a bath. Oh brother. You can explain that quickly? Sure, absolutely they're marketed as incense bath salts or plant food not for human consumption and these are a variety of different chemicals that are incredibly powerful and have caused as you just mentioned not only violent incidents but a lot of psychotic episodes with young people And they're bought under a lot of different names I have to tell you this one cloud nine we went on the internet This is a promo

1:16:26 We could actually purchase this off the internet. Oh, let me go buy some cloud nine right now! Well one of the things that we're really hopeful for is new federal legislation that will ban this. Many states have already banned it but what happens is that people who sell and market this who are truly bottom feeders change their chemical compilation and then are able to skirt the law So we've heard from several people It's like you can't stop this. They're just gonna ban everything, any chemical. Pretty soon you'll not be allowed to have anything in the house. Yeah no well that's what you do and then you have to license journalists so I'm looking at this Marinol story a little deeper it actually has been around for awhile it's only since the Abbott labs bought them that they started all of this stuff start appearing curiously it may be more psychoactive than natural cannabis

1:17:23 Really? Yeah, you get like a six hour buzz when you take one of these things. Well that makes total sense! I mean but that's at the end of the day That's what they want it's like yeah okay You can grow this weed in your garden and it looks pretty by the way And it grows really well you don't have to be uh... you know you don't have green thumbs And you know, you can smoke it yourself. You can put it in your tea. You can make it as mild as you want. So many fantastic... It's just a fantastic plant I've used for many many years not anymore but I did and now is like well we should be making money off of that Just like the bath salt they're gonna make their own bath salts Now government approved bath salts! It's all about the drug dealers They are the legal drug dealers Whatever it's a bad situation there's nothing really...it's going nowhere

1:18:19 The president sent a little report to Congress, a report on how the wars are doing. Did you read his letter? Yeah I wish He's just kind of saying what we're all doing you know it was like military operations against Al Qaeda Taliban associated forces in support of related US counterterrorism objectives that's all going good We have developed combat-equipped forces to a number of locations in the U.S., Central Central Pacific, European Southern Africa Command areas of operation. Previously such operations deployments have been reported consistent with Public Law 107-40 and Operations and deployment remain ongoing these operations which the United States has carried out with the assistance of numerous international partners have degraded al Qaeda's capabilities and brought an end to the Taliban leadership in Afghanistan

1:19:13 So he keeps referring to this public law 107-40. He talks about what's in Afghanistan, we have Somalia, we have Yemen... I'm just reading down his letter military operations still in Iraq, Central Africa maritime interception operations hostage rescue operations military operations in Egypt where we have 693 troops US NATO operations in Kosovo and like maybe I should go look at public law 107-40 because you know he's basically waging war in countries and for those of you who didn't know

1:19:57 Public Law 107-40 is from the 107th Congress. It is public law number 40, and this is right after 911 in short... So you know I'm calling bullshit on this! What? What are recent attacks against the United States? Well, this is from September 18th 2001. So he's still even though we've killed bin Laden and we've got al-Awlaki to have people in Egypt to have our troops in Egypt as authorized under public law 107 dash 40 which authorizes the use of the United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States I mean why doesn't anyone say hold on a second

1:21:00 Egypt was not responsible for the attacks against the United States. No, not at all obviously. Kony which is in this letter The Lord's Resistance Army was not responsible for attacks against the United States Let's hope not You know the whole thing is one big legal scam Well that's a good find It's disturbing find is what it is Yes very disturbing Why doesn't someone say hey hold on a second This is not okay. This is not true." And meanwhile, President Obama's professor at Harvard Law School his constitutional law professor his name is Roberto Mangabeira and even on his wiki page he taught our president constitutional law has this to say the Democratic Party proposes no new direction its idea

1:22:00 is to put a human face on the program of its adversaries. To implement their program with a humanizing discount, give the bond markets what they want, bail out the reckless so long as they are also rich. Use fiscal and monetary stimulus to make up for the absence of any consequential broadening of economic and educational opportunity. Sweeten the pill of disempowerment with a touch of tax fairness, even though the effect of any such tax reform is sure to be modest. This is less a project

1:22:52 than it is an abdication. You should listen to the words of your professor! The guy sounds slightly drunk... Well, he's out there slamming his student, the president I mean if you had a student that became president be like you know thumping your chest a bit and then it turns out to be this guy like oh crap I knew Tommy would never turn out to be good I mean Barry So anyway, a little news item came up. We talked about Rodney King Yes You know and the fact that it's maybe part of some bigger scheme to incite race violence And whether it was two to the head and then this little factoid comes out I didn't realize until after we did the show that apparently Rodney King who drowned in his own pool

1:23:46 was a swimming nut who taught swimming to black kids who felt that he didn't know how to swim enough. He was a swimming instructor, does this make any sense? In fact I have the report here from our national treasure NPR It's sad irony that Rodney King, who'd been an excellent swimmer since childhood drowned in the pool he so loved When I spoke with him in April, just before his memoir was published he said he was aware many black folks were not water safe. That's one of the reasons why i got into swimming because I know a lot of black people don't swim and I know a lot of them go out to the water and they'll make it back For King, the water was a second home, an escape from his multiple scrapes with the law and his battles with substance abuse. I've gotten to have so much fun out on the water um...I get my peace of mind when I'm out fishing or something like that. I like to throw that pole in the water

1:24:38 and uh, get a lot of the lakes out there where I live. Yeah! I find...uhh..I think one of our producers- What goes like this? The two assassins come in they say what are we gonna do with this guy? I don't know. Let's drown him He's got a pool let's drown him because everybody knows blacks can't swim Wow! Wow you my friend You my friend are really bad They must have been uhh Like Russian hitmen or something They're incompetent phone heads Yeah losers Someone someone is in trouble for that There's phone calls Yeah, it's uh... No I absolutely can't. That was kind of mad you know these things happen but now I'm convinced that he was murdered for some reason So are they just withholding on this? Because now Trayvon Martin is being ramped up again

1:25:24 That's back in the news right on time. So let me see, let me just count them all we've got Trayvon Martin Back in the news with George Zimmerman and that's being spawned every which way We've got Eric Holder at being a racial move or I'm sorry What was the term used? Ethnic an ethnic move And I think all we need now is just to time it right to have hey man Rodney King was killed by KKK Or some crap like that Yeah Some bull crap. Yeah, or the cops! Oh yeah I'm sorry, I'm sorry the cops right? Yeah it's disturbing well at least we're all looking out for it. Yeah we're looking out for it so what?! We're looking out for it man come on we're looking out for it So uh...I'm keeping my eye on Rio plus 20

1:26:19 As a part of our agenda 21 ongoing investigation, so they've agreed on a draft development plan No None of the none of the global warming people are happy. In fact They're extremely unhappy since this is all now been focused on finance and it's no longer about Global warming those you those words are no longer used Of course The word now used is sustainability Sustainability very, very important. Yeah that is the key that is the meme so a couple of I got to figure out what name this outfit is let me see if I can find it here. Couple folks from who are they? C fact not heard of this outfit before went to a kind of like a pre meeting of agenda 21

1:27:11 C Charlie Foxtrot Alpha Charlie tango c-fact c-fact c-fact so they went to the ICLEI meeting And I see lei is the International Council for local environmental initiatives This is all a part of agenda 21 and this was in Brazil so there's a lot of people there from Copenhagen and you know, A lot of Europeans and this is kind of the first stop on the way to To Rio where they have their little sub meeting and they all get set up

1:27:46 And it's all a part of basically taking everything away from you. Government great, government good, go live in a box slave and shut up! And they did something very interesting which I think we need to do a lot more of not well not you and I because you know We got more important things to do like watching C-SPAN But they went around this conference and they asked these people could you explain what sustainability means? Yeah, I'd like to know myself. Well here's their answers it's a nice little compilation To get... kind of... To raise the amount of Copenhagen use on bike That means... Do you have to raise the amount of Copenhagen use of bike?

1:28:35 The whole systemic and holistic dimension. to the daily transport and what we like is that 50% of Copenhageners use a bike every day. Okay, so in your own life think about what makes you happy? What makes you happy is sustainability! To obtain sustainable development we need lower emissions in cities and communities as well

1:29:27 And a very simple interpretation can be enough for all and forever. Enough for all and forever! That's sustainability right there! That would be it, that's it she nailed it. Enough for all and forever So these guys, C-FACT is a troublemaking organization. I'll say! But you have to admire them for that. Certainly. It seems to be a lot of retired professors and this doesn't have any the big name something stands out there obviously financed by the car companies in Chevron apparently and if you these other operations that do not

1:30:05 You know people always moan about well the oil companies yes because the oil companies are paying for that The oil companies have the same right as anybody else to tell their story Anyway, it looks like a pretty funny group because they apparently caused a lot of trouble at the Copenhagen event. I like it Yeah, sure there's a lot of good stuff in here and nobody pays any attention to at all except us Well, I see fact and meanwhile I was more looking at the blue-green coalition or that group that i talked about in the newsletter, which is just a creepy group of phony labor plus environmentalists. Which just makes zero sense to anybody who's ever been involved in union activity Well, I got a better one for you Here's a group that you gotta look out for The International Conference on Degrowth In The Americas Degrowth

1:31:05 No, this is a good one. 20 years... I can spot a good one a mile away! 20 years after the Earth Summit in Rio the linkage of sustainable development which we can't explain to economic growth requires profound rethinking it is not- What does that mean? I don't know but its on the homepage It has not offered a convincing solution to one of the most dramatic crises in history how to avert ecological collapse while enhancing social justice and improving life's prospects Enough for everyone and forever in advance of Rio plus 20 our conference seeks to challenge and move beyond the sustainable development agenda Oh a D growth perspective will help us visualize and build towards a truly prosperous world What is d growth? Is that like you have this ring joke no because their logo is a snail as a snail

1:32:00 A snail, and it shows the snail in South America moving its way up to North America. It's a stupid snail with a smile on his face! It's ridiculous! Degrowth? Degrowth or as Haiku Herman would say degroche we must have de groce in Americas about de growth wait a minute let's look at what is about de grow what is de growth oh here we go This is not an economic depression nor recession, but a decline in the importance of the economy itself in our lives and our societies. Wow! This is not the decline of GDP but the end of GDP and all other quantitative measures used as indicators of well-being."

1:32:47 This is not a decline in population size, but a questioning of humanity's self-destructive lifestyle. What? This sounds like a club I need to join! That sounds like... like fascism. This is not a step backwards but an invitation to step aside out of the race in pursuit of excessiveness. Oh, I'm all for this. This is not nostalgia for some golden age, but an unprecedented project to invent creative ways of living together Well yeah, more lesbians obviously. That would be better! This is not degrowth imposed by the depletion of the biosphere's resources but a voluntary degrowth to live better here and now preserving the conditions necessary for long-time survival of humanity Wow these guys are dangerous this is not an anti modern movement but a neo modern movement based on respect for the values of freedom and equality

1:33:48 This is not eco-fascism. Does it say that? Yeah, keep going! Wow... But a call for democratic revolution to end our productivist consumerist model of society Well I'm all for that That line right there is the real key to it I'm all for this This is a bunch of communists trying to destroy the Western societies I'm all for it Unplug! Unplug Neo modern, not anti modern It's neo modern I'm unplugging right now I'm gone Okay, bye. Turn off the net! Let's degrow. Why extol degrowth? Wow... Why do we need the word degrowth or oh there's a French word for it. Décroissance Really I was-I had a croissant for breakfast. Décroissance. Bonjour je m'appelle Adam et je practice le décroissance What a great word

1:34:51 It's a harsh word that attacks the root of most of our problems, the quest for continuous growth. My goodness! They already had their event it was in Montreal on May 13th and 19th we didn't hear anything about it I didn't get the memo no There is a bunch of papers though you can go to conference papers and probably read all these Is society just degrowth? Is society socially just degrowth compatible with capitalism would be good one by Karen Bell Degrowth and regrowth the story of the New England food and farming. Hmm, this is quite awesome overpopulation in the vicious circle principle hmm That should be a gem Growth black America and restorative justice that's ominous Well another governance kicking democracy's growth habit can I just say something John? Oh

1:35:48 Looking at our donations for today versus Sunday. We're on a fine degrowth path Imagine all the people who could do that oh, yeah Well we do want to thank a few people for helping us on show 419. Sir Todd Simons in Brisbane, Queensland. Dame Melissa and I are getting married on the 22nd of June could i get a wedding karma shout out for the day and our future together for that day all the best Adam and Mickey for their upcoming weddings. Thank you so much absolutely

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1:39:52 But you know, IBEW another one of these. This is like the public relations business they've been all bought up by the way outstanding newsletter that you sent I think it's Gerard Leo Gerrard who is truly one of the most powerful men in the universe and he had a nice actually I would like to turn that into a standalone blog post. Yeah, it was worth it because you had some good information about how the you know the union by the way I don't think you or I are anti-union but these unions are not necessarily there to help workers put together the way they've done with the public relations firm. We used to talk about Hill and Knowlton, all these different... They're all owned by one guy! I mean there's two major companies that own every advertising agency and public relations firm. Omnicom and WPP Yeah and then there is a third one which is the French one that has a bunch of... Interpublicis

1:40:48 And they're the third great one. But the fact is, these guys own all... This has just got conflict of interest written all over it and the same thing's happening with unions are just buying them up! Ben... So go read the newsletter if you haven't read it already people. Ben Dusling in I think it's Dussling or Doosling in Ottawa 55 don't spend it on one place we won't we can't Adam Wiesner or Wisener? Weisner? Wisner. Montauk, Wisconsin. Exact amount I had in a change jar. I'd like some job karma wish to wish Kyle Kenzel a happy birthday he's celebrating on June 21st and he came in with 53-53 You've got karma Rich Semmel

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1:43:07 devices, earthquake machines are releasing the swine flu for the government to kill us all with vaccines. So I just give him a good karma. And some de-douche karma. You've been de-dooched! You've got Karma. Counteracting Jared Reynolds... counteracting Sean Powell's Gerald Reynolds in Port Angeles Washington my neck of the woods with $50 and 7 cents negating the negative vote for the slide whistle Go Slide Whistle. I'm a listener back from the DSC day so i hope you win. It's my 37th birthday on 6-21, my parents gave me $100 and splitting it with you due to my long time bonerdom. I am also going to do 1212 a month as well

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1:44:38 Actually as a Korean there are few things I like to comment about. First of all, I think Adam is spot on about the cyber bully internet censorship fiasco because exact same thing has already happened over here in 2006 it became the first and only country in the world to impose the real name Internet identification system which required any media UCC or portal sites with more than 300 thousand users To verify the names and citizen ID numbers anybody who wants to post anything on their sites mm-hmm 2009 That was expanded to any site that has north of 100,000 users along with 150 other websites that provide posting and commenting services. The reason the government and its whore media gave us this latter modification was the epidemic of celebrities killing themselves over the horrible terrifying evil comments left by bloggers." Oh wait a minute I feel a meme... Think about it! This would be great

1:45:33 So we can see like, and the first one to go is Kim Kardashian obviously. She's already talking to Oprah like oh I'm so depressed it's so horrible Wouldn't it be great if we had all these douchebags killing themselves? Yeah well of course what would really be happening is they'd be there would be executed Well duh As part of the scheme This is exactly what happened in Korea! Korea was just a test This is a script I like it We keep our eye on that Yeah we'll see when the first one goes from bullying Then I have a name. I can't read which is royal Golda Racina with a bunch of characters, I can't come across here from I don't even know where they are $50 set Chen set Chen to share woo

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1:46:57 Can we do a little more specific? I don't know if i need to deduce you or not. It's been $5 for awhile, but never donated enough for mention before Well just for that comment about the 31 year old virgin, I'm going to deduce you You've been Deduced! You need to wash off my friend Jason Ashmore Newmarket Maryland 50 dollars Hey guys count me among the new listeners that came on board after Adams appearance on twit Oh, there we go. We made 50 bucks! The problem is now that I'm a no agenda listener... ...I can't go back to listening to the other podcasts. It's troubling. It's the second time we got 11 likes this week. It's troubling isn't it? Yeah. Please keep up with twice-a-week schedule as it covers my commute to work perfectly indeed

1:47:39 If I have to go back to listening to endless Audible and Ford commercials, I'm gonna lose my mind. Donating $50 in true John Galt value for value style only been a few weeks but i think i could use it dedouching and please give yourselves a shot of karma keep the new listeners donations coming in that's beautiful man thank you You've been de-douche'd. As for this... by Ayn Rand. You've got karma He said John Galt. She's throwing a bonus in there! Yeah, he threw in a John Galt reference so that's what you get and deserved Thomas Lee's London London London $50 many thanks for the great show please send karma to my dad for Father's Day died last year age 46 from cancer so this is beyond the grave karma thanks Tom absolutely You've got Karma

1:48:31 We got a make good here. Yeah, you want to read that? Hey Adam and John I made a donation that was mentioned on Thursday's show by note wasn't mentioned says Levi keep up the good work here it is just a minute 6969 and PayPal being the doofuses that they are didn't let me leave a note anyway Here you are in your welcome if i could get some getting laid karma That would be great! I'm getting married on Saturday so this karma will come... Hold on a second He's getting married on Saturday. What does he need get laid karma as part of the deal? Well, maybe you want Maybe wants to get late get laid Karma just getting married I think he wants to get laid before the wedding yeah like a send-off

1:49:22 No, I don't think so. That wouldn't be right if I could get some getting laid karma that would be great I'm getting married on Saturday So this karma will come of good use as I'm telling you he wants it before the marriage Could you possibly take a moment introduce yourselves in your best radio voices to my bride Caitlin? I need To get her to approve of you guys so I can give you more value for value Levi Brader Lund from Gitmo Nation uh... great white north so wait a minute he's getting married he hasn't gotten laid and she doesn't approve of the show yet? well this is going to be the shortest marriage okay let's try it again hey there I'm Adam Curry and i am John C. Dvorak Hey Caitlin we want you to approve us indeed and give up your man will ya do think that's gonna work

1:50:27 Do you think it's gonna work? I don't think so. No, she is not going to like us ever There was one little disturbing thing As you can tell we are a little light today Of course that part of it is June But I was very happy to see new executive producers So I'm not really complaining but what bugged the crap out of me You know the Knight Foundation They...I guess they're from Knight Ridder or one half of Knight Ridder They have this foundation They hand out grants to journalistic projects. And so here we are, you know we do a value for value model and we take a grant from the Knight Foundation where I just started there are the strings attached Do you think to the Knight foundation? The more talk to people that know all about this Yeah they say you take one of these grants and you are beholden Oh really oh

1:51:17 And then they dog you. They give you like nothing, they give you like a...nothing! and then their dogging ya. Yeah, you didn't do this right, you didn't talk about that, you didn't do this or that. There are always strings attached I think you can get a genius thing from the MacArthur people because they already like what your doing Your obviously toeing in line, your doing exactly what they want and they'll give you money after the fact but generally speaking it's a lost cause. Well so they're handing out $50,000 grants And the $50,000 has to last you 60-120 days which is pretty decent. That's a good grant! That's a very good grant Who's the name of this group? The Knight Foundation Oh yeah those guys Yeah the Knight Foundation Yeah they're Knight Ritter So I look at... Now do we get anything? Do they even approach...I mean I'd like to be offered so that I can deny it Do we get anything? No But what are they just giving a grant too

1:52:15 The University of Nebraska's drone journalism experiment. What? Yeah! Drone Journalism. What does that mean? Well, let's click on the link and see what it is... Drone Lab receives Knight Foundation prototype grant. Knight Foundation announced today UNL's Drone Journalism Lab is one of the first to receive a new type of grant from an organization called Prototype Grant. $50k will be used to test drones for reporting as well as recent, it's like you can buy a drone for 300 bucks. Oh so this is the way I let me and let me guess the idea is you start this program up and you have your little newspaper or whatever it isn't the college paper they have their own drone they have a drone pilot and then some riots are breaking out some occupying movement taking off so you send your drone over the facility take photos in the new run those pictures that's the draw thats gotta be the only possibility

1:53:18 Let me see the scope of the fund. Let's see if it actually says, The cost and time required of quickly testing projects particularly digital ones. Yeah that'd be digital video. Mm-hmm. Here drone journalism Professor Matt Waite will lead a project to research and experiment with drone vehicles as potential tools for news and public data collection. Oh please! See this is what I mean. Here's the definition, the idea that small unmanned aircraft can be used to gather photos video and data for use by journalism journalists $50,000 for a three hundred dollar thing from Sharper image no not sharper with that out of business What's the other one? Brookstone 300 bucks in an iPad! What an outrage It's an outrage

1:54:13 Well, there's no information being provided to the public that helped them get through their day. Where in all honesty we actually do drone journalism because we've been reporting on drones for four years! You want real drone journalism? We're telling you exactly what's going on with the drones Do we get a grant? No That's okay We're just getting by. So a couple, one other thing I want to mention we Buzzkill jr dug up this article apparently in Quora which discusses the way other cultures see Americans and maybe we'll talk about this little more after the donation segment but there was one thing that kind of explained something apparently in India

1:55:00 They, when they did a study of the Indians you know the Indian subcontinent. They were shocked! The Indians were shocked none of my friends back in India believe me when I told them that you can literally buy anything including food and return it within 90 days for a full refund even if you don't have specific reason for doing so So this explains a lot to me the Indians are essentially they won't let anything They want they don't return stuff so in other words. They still sell you a bad product, and You can't bring it back so everybody's very suspicious And you know, the Indians are notoriously cheap. They've said so themselves on this show they never donate to our show and though they all speak English and many of them listen to the show is...and the only ones who have ever donated live in the United States and have gotten a little clue about this but I think this idea that you can't return anything So in other words..so your whole life as a suckers game Get somebody to buy something and then screw them As opposed to us we would You can take your stuff whenever you buy at Costco you can take it back like a month later and give your money back

1:56:05 Anyway, it's just a little aside. Just my little bit anti-indian rant yes very good I just want to make sure and then finally sir GQ gents this karma thing is legit remember he asked for karma on Sunday He had he was doing a job karma. It's like some more as a medical board or something I went and I totally messed up the board so badly I walked out of the room afterward put my head under the faucet of the sink five minutes later I was called back in and told I was recommended I almost blew my cool And asked the dude who is leading this shin dig what the hell? He was thinking but aside decided simply to thank you that Thank You to you would suffice

1:56:45 I'm already a $33-a-month donor, but I'll give you guys some kickback when my pay jumps in. So that's nice to hear that the karma is legit and now let's hit it for the birthdays! Adam Wiesner congratulates Kyle Kinzel today on his birthday. Rich Semel, happy birthday to him he celebrates on Monday and Jared Reynolds congratulates himself turning 37 today Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the ever expanding team here at the No Agenda podcast All three of us and Mimi in charge of sandwiches

1:57:29 We've got, uh... we have a- we gotta basically knight the garrison John. Yeah! Sir Borislav Marinov- Get the big knife out here. Yeah get the big knife out for these kids Alright Yasin Marinov, Simeon Marinov and Darren Marinov Come on boys come here now Thanks to your father, who is obviously a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. He is putting the garrison together making it complete for you I hereby pronounce all three of you Sir Yasin, Sir Simeon and Sir Darren Knights at The No Agenda Roundtable We got comic books And Jesus juice for you Sorry for the Michael Jackson reference on where that came from

1:58:15 That was weird. You got hit with the ray. I'm looking over this list of crazy things that when outsiders look at Americans and they don't live here, they've never been here. I read a couple of them, they're kind of funny one side think this is a guy in from Portugal drinking age. I think everyone's Scandinavian countries feel this way to drinking age couldn't get over the fact that we had a drinking age and it was enforced strictly Yeah. Some people are like amazed that we have spray cheese That is one of the best American inventions, I have to say You can drink the water from the tap? She isn't ashamed to have a bastard child you never paid a bribe

1:58:58 You haven't spoken to your family in more than a month. These things are all shocking." Boobs? Boobs?! "...insisted American women had larger breasts like many romantic straight Spanish men, Pasquale is always not perversely attracted to the female form but just mesmerized by it I had to keep him on a tight leash when he went to a softball game!" It's a lot of weird... we don't think much about this stuff No there's entire weeks that go by they don't think about that stuff That's because we don't care Apparently the Europeans and some of them are shocked by our underdressing in cold weather. Here's something that would shock them, according to a study Americans heads are getting bigger. Steroids! Oh there you go that's a good one well the report says it's not clear why medicine cars supermarkets but the skulls of white Americans and perhaps have other races and nationalities had become slightly taller and roomier

1:59:57 According to forensic research and new measurements. Well this brings back the I think it has to do with show business Yeah, because you get gotta put that crap somewhere We don't know you have this theory about the big head You already forgot your own thing yeah if you have a big head you'll be successful on television yeah It's not a theory its science. It's a fact It's a fact i'm telling you All right, actually I wanted to talk about Syria for a second. Maybe little more than in second so we know the basic script that we applied in let's just take Libya as an example is you get the two douchebags on opposite sides of the aisle. You get John McCain and Joe Lieberman and they have to push it

2:00:48 And they push for a basically no-fly zone and remove the regime. We all know by now that this is essentially the Saudis who we are helping, who want to provide oil and gas to Europe and they want to thwart Russia Who of course have their own leader. They already have a business going. Yeah, so Russia's got a business going that has to be stopped and it is going to be Saudi oil and gas That is what its all about and that why we are basically in the proxy war. Well you know the Saudis aren't in competition with Russia Russia has as much oil as the Saudis And those are two big players in that part of the world But it obvious whose side were on

2:01:28 Yeah, well which is interesting because you know why I mean those are the guys who dropped our twin towers But we're on their side anyway. I mean what's there must be some of something else going on Because everyone's on the take from those guys come on by the way Don't see the press conference or the meeting that Putin had with Obama? Yeah, and I didn't I'd even clip anything from it at the only I saw his body language but got nothing to do with a clip my language The body language yeah Putin was like all the way back Kind of like falling out of the chair. Yeah, like what's up with you douche? Yeah but like arrogantly so I'd have to say kind of like alright son What do you want to tell me that's the way I read it Putin arrogant huh right there is a possibility So douchebag John McCain who is the ultimate sales guy for the military-industrial complex He speaks at the AEI

2:02:28 Which is the American Enterprise Institute. Yes, now this is a an interesting outfit the American Enterprise Institute there I guess it's just a big neocon outfit of these the guys that write another front organization for so they write the script right? Yeah they write the scripts and I just want you to hear the words as he's talking about, well he is warmongering and getting us all set up. And here we go. Turning loose special units and plain-clothed militias to massacre men women and children has happened last month in the town of Hula We are now seeing a rapid increase in Assad's use of helicopter gunships whereas his forces once sought to clear and hold ground

2:03:17 They now appear to be under orders just to kill anyone and everyone they deem a threat. Because every reason to believe that Assad will continue to escalate the violence, more massacres, more use of helicopters and perhaps worse weapons after that." Now let's get some good language in there Johnny boy! Meanwhile Assad and his forces continue to be rearmed by Russia and Iran There are reports of Iranian operatives on the ground in Syria to help Assad with the killing. Just making that up? Russia apparently continues to ship heavy weapons including, as Secretary Clinton has stated, the very helicopter gunships that Assad is currently using to strafe and bomb civilians Now we know of course this whole gunship story was one big fat lie but he has a new spin on it!

2:04:09 Whether these are new helicopters or old ones that Assad sent to Russia to be refurbished and have the blood washed off of them. Hey, Boris! Wipe the blood off that helicopter man it looks like crap! Is a distinction without a difference. This guy is unbelievable There are now reports that Russia has dispatched two ships and a unit of Russian marines to reinforce their naval base at Tartus And they're also delivering additional anti-ship and anti aircraft missiles to help defend the Assad regime. Okay, so that's basically it... It's so bad they have to wipe the blood off of the refurbished helicopter. They're not actually getting refurbished they just go in there is so much blood and gore. They got a big washing machine that they run through in Russia but they don't really have one of those in the United States No no, because they've got no hoses So you know we gotta wipe the blood off in Russia

2:05:06 So now, how do we... This is a good speech actually. It was very interesting to watch this. We need a reason to circumvent the United Nations Security Council. We know what it is. We know that we just have to basically say hey man this is just like Bosnia so here's McCain doing just that! And Moscow rejected and shut down the UN Security Council What has changed to make things different now? What the present does not seem to realize is what President Bill Clinton came to understand in Bosnia.

2:05:47 that a diplomatic resolution in conflicts like these is not possible until the military balance of power changes on the ground. Oh, really? As long as a murderous dictator be it Slobodan Milosevic That's Slobodan Milosevic to you John but you're an idiot! or Basar al-Assad believes he is winning on the battlefield, he has no incentive to stop fighting and negotiate. The same is true for the regime's foreign supporters for whatever the reasons and despite destroying Russia's reputation in the Arab world, the Russian government has stuck with Assad for 15 months. Okay so that is basically the ploy of how we are going to circumvent it now how are we going to do it? Well, we have been saying this for a while Turkey are the boys who are gonna do it and McCain accentuates the plan

2:06:42 This is exactly what we should be helping the opposition to do. Okay, write it down everyone take notes now because you can see this unfold in real time Rather than insisting that we cannot act militarily without a UN Security Council resolution as the Secretary of Defense recently asserted We should follow President Clinton's example from Kosovo We should refuse to give Russia and China veto power over our actions, and instead work outside of the Security Council to shape a coalition of willing states with legitimate mandate to intervene militarily in Syria. So a coalition of the willing? Many of our allies are willing to do much more but only if United States is with them

2:07:28 As one regional official told the Wall Street Journal last weekend, the Turks in particular are looking for quote the ironclad backing of the US and others. There we go so that's all we need to do and of course That'll that could happen under a chapter 7 resolution if Turkey is Attacks or little false flag would be very easy for them the more The more I listen to this guy over the last year The more I just shake my hand say did this country dodge a bullet when they didn't elect this character Yeah, no kidding. It's okay because his buddy Romney will be the next president

2:08:08 And now, you know there's another thing that came up I have a clip. Can i just hammer it home with his last little closing comment? Oh I'm sorry go on Yeah because again we have to remember why we're going to ignore the United Nations Security Council Why is that John Because...because we can Because it's just like Bosnia. Oh, yeah, it's just like a Clinton's Bosnia Yeah We have a democratic president now we had a democratic president then its genocide It's mass slaughter which Kosovo had nothing to do with any pipelines or anything or nothing up please ignore any of that? It's just like Bosnia Syria today is indistinguishable from Bosnia in the 1990s indistinguishable

2:08:55 It doesn't... it's exactly the same! Exactly the same. With one exception. Oh? In Bosnia, President Clinton finally summoned the courage to lead the world to intervene and stop the killing There you go The only thing that is different is our president I'm believable This guy is the worst warmonger I think I've ever run into DOOSHBAG So I'd like to get to the bottom of this too. This is an interesting little story, play the McGurk clip Who's McGurk? McGurk was the guy that Obama picked to be the ambassador to Iraq and then a scandal ensued

2:09:38 President Obama's pick for ambassador to Iraq has withdrawn his nomination following Republican opposition and claims of inappropriate contact with a journalist. Brett McGurk had come under fire from Senate Republicans over revelations of a racy email exchange with the Wall Street Journal reporter while he served in Iraq in 2008. McGurk and the reporter Gina Chan later married, Chan resigned from The Wall Street Journal last week. Oh yeah this was the propaganda And in order for her, you know so they couldn't testify against each other. They had to get married well That's fine But the guy was qualified to do the job or whatever who is a Republican that that submarine the thing? Did they never mention any of these details by no no McCain McCain? Oh, it's from duh There's that douchebag again how but you know what John it's all okay You know because the marketing is and the marketing has started

2:10:37 Hollywood star Angelina Jolie has donated $100,000 to aid the Syrian refugees. I was wondering who they were going to sign for that job? Well you know she's got the gig! That's her beat. That's what she does Yeah, of course I have to say gotta give him props Ron Paul is the only guy saying stop the idiocy stop the crazy plans rumors and war propaganda for attacking Syria and Disposing Assad has been around for many months This past week however it was reported that the Pentagon indeed was finalizing plans to do just that. In my opinion all the evidence to justify this attack is bogus. Bogus! Yay! If only he would have used the word bogative, That would've made my day

2:11:31 Right there. It should have been bogative that would have been just so much better Well, you know we could go on moaning about this and say setting us up But you know it was already predetermined a decade ago Yeah by the clip that we play in place of Leslie Clark here We're not even gonna play it no we're not gonna play Wesley Clark It has Syria on the list or they gave him the list and Syria was honest so serious on it I mean, what are we supposed to do? Is that it's on the list. So I have heard from The Syrian television producer he says he's working on On the trip to Damascus And the feedback from producers of this program our listeners is diverse John

2:12:17 And I'd like to give you a little sampling. Yes, I would be interested in this because I can counteract most of it...I think..I hope. Okay Mohanad says Adam here's a message from one of your Syrian boners on the show yes you have many listener in Syria If they don't donate, then because first most of them can afford it. Second it's not that easy to transfer money from Syria and has not been easy for over a decade I'm a boner of your show And since John stopped doing the Cranky Geek Show and to be honest never missed any of your shows except the Clip Show Yes... Hey! Yes your show helps to sleep in long nights maybe its John's voice

2:12:57 I'm a Syrian student. With regards to the invitation to fly to Damascus, I support the opinion of John to go there and do the show from there! It would be an-a real exclusive thing Adam in Damascus Yeah, there's a biblical thing to that I'll give you a little background about the NBN broadcasting station. It belongs to the Amal movement in Lebanon, they're one of the allies of the Syrian government in Lebanon so probably be a guest of the Syrian government if you fly into Damascus however it would be wise to send an email to the official NBN headquarters in Beirut and he has a number and ask him with the person with telephone number you have really worked for them before you find yourself in the middle of nowhere I believe that now that would be funny

2:13:40 Yeah, hilarious. I believe that person really does listen to the show but they try to present you as a former MTV star and now is a rebel against the West mainstream media so don't be offended if he mentioned the MTV thing it's a cultural thing from that region to connect you to some big thing like MTV at the beginning and afterward taking talking about your no agenda activity then tried to avoid saying Here we've fished a blogger or someone who does a podcast but instead We have a great personality of the big known MTV blah blah blah blah blah So if you explain your pipeline theory there will be propagated as part of the conspiracy and the opposition will make a counter comment about it Maybe describing you as a crazy person, but the final result is more publicity for no agenda and go for it dude Which is Syrian for dude?

2:14:28 Black Knight Erdaderion. I have family in Beirut, they will take good care of you. I've been there many times say the word everything and everything for your stay will be taken care of well that's comforting that's very nice so if i choose to go the Beirut route Sir Thomas Adam listen to the show a day late. I've been at Damascus, it's a different world there my friend Things are under change now but when i was there few years ago the folks were warm and welcoming but somehow... ...I always felt that was being watched probably because I was Getting there as you worked out is not difficult although getting the visa for visit may be difficult By route would be my choice in the end although if you go to Damascus The crazy horse is the place to be!

2:15:12 Uh-huh, okay. I'm writing that one down for the itinerary and then finally Patrick from Gitmo Down Under I may not be the best donor but hope to do better The Syrian interview is nuts! These people invade countries they kill thousands of women and children ever imagine doing that? Stepping onto Syrian soil will take you off the grid off US soil away from us law Whilst flattering, your thoughts on Leviathan are there for everyone to listen to on Show 381. An interview in person isn't required! Who has the money to fly you out anyhow? Haven't they ever heard of Skype?! Do a twit on them! Mickey needs you around! Come on!!

2:15:51 You must be an awesome chess player. Do the math! A bit of flattery, a free ticket? You do strangely well at fighting evil We are all being educated The show should be mandatory listening for all journo students Up for adventure? Ever tried dodging bullets? Don't DO IT ADAM!" So that's a smattering That was an unusual response from one of our listeners Yeah like... I agree It sounded like it came from the State Department I don't know man. Well, we'll see if he gets back to me.

2:16:39 It's they're not concerned. It's people who don't get out much and have been kind of Scared to death by the media to be being rolled up in their house or homes, right? You know they project and they think it's a dangerous situation It's it's probably no more dangerous than driving down East 14th Street in Oakland Which may actually be more that actually would scare me yeah I wouldn't be doing that So, uh... Mickey's still- she does she- Mickey is like I'm coming with you no matter what. I'm like, you know listen to what John says he's giving you good advice it's gonna be painful and annoying for you Yeah, I mean She yeah, I mean if you wanted to go I mean I'm sure that they can accommodate the both of ya Uh, I don't know would make the crazy voice of man I'm sure there's a hole big enough To accommodate the both of us But uh Lie in this ditch

2:17:37 I'll take the big bottom. You know, I fell asleep during twit Did you did you mention the big bottom for some reason? No no Leo went off on a tirade about what but you and the Big Bottom why oh He says, you know... He just did it to get some interesting conversation going. It was in good humor. Yeah I'm sure. Because Adam's got- You know it's obvious when he's pumping up his voice he's got this huge voice! It's huge! He says he's running through a big bottom. He's got a big bottom which is the device that we've talked about on this show which is your ear. I have a big bottom here And he says and I know he's got it turned all the way up to huge bottom Oh man thats my huge cojones dude

2:18:31 Yeah, well he can do that. So he was... I don't know what his point was He just went off for no reason? He just went on about your voice and the fact you're using a big bottom and it's just to make your message sound like I'm cheating or something We never said cheating but i think there was implied His voice can't be that big! We're actually using our warsanis For those of you who want people always wanna know What's your podcasting rig? I don't have a podcasting rig This is the real deal. This is a studio which was bought and paid for with producer money, which is great! And the Warsanis actually stole from the station that went... after I did the whole pedo bear thing in Holland they took down the station and look it up W-A-R-S

2:19:22 A-N-I-S, I think. Warsanis and it's a magical box that makes our entire sound people never believe that you're on Skype well until it craps out but yeah you sound pretty good I'm actually running youth with the big bottom hey everybody hello everybody hey girls looks like Gardasil is turning to a new market for the HPV vaccine you can wait for the marketing to come out They're now starting up a conversation about women over the age of 26 also getting the HPV shot. And I think they're trying to figure out how to approach this market because right now it would be, what is it? Off list? What do you call that if it's off label? There you go.

2:20:12 There's been a bunch of people here and there I keep hearing, oh she just went to the doctor and she didn't have cancer. She didn't have cancer. Keep hearing this How many of you think they're scaring the crap out of almost every woman out there with cancer fear? I think we've discovered how they did that with this phony machine. But next time I hear that, I'm going to ask them about it. Did you take a shot? Yeah well let me just reiterate for people who are... No no I am not paying attention to this. Well because your'e not a woman. People who are new to the program would just like mention how the script goes. So, Gardasil and the company that makes the new HPV testing machines which is a high throughput device they're rigged to give a lot of false positives so the way it works is you get tested

2:21:03 Then it gives you a false positive then they have to do a biopsy which is not without danger, which is not without pain It's very uncomfortable and then you know They'll make you sit for a week and get all freaked out. You could be pre cancerous precancerous Precancerous And then finally the results coming up who you're so lucky but you might as well get this shot just to make sure and that Is essentially the script on how there on how they're selling this to you? And it's uh, it's disgusting by the way on girls I think the One of those episodes of that show that brought up the HPV. I didn't clip it, but now the gay guy... Remember the girl who had HPV and she accused her ex-boyfriend of giving it to her? Yeah we actually had a clip of that. We had THAT clip but they brought it up again! Oh. And he says you're right I had HPV I gave it to you. What?! So now the gay guy has it. That's another... That show is THE WORST. Now one of our producers here from Texas

2:22:04 Producer Josh Beck he went a little crackpot II but I like what he came up with it turns out we have a potential West Nile virus here in Plano in Plano, Texas just down the road and The city is collecting samples and you know They're advising the four DS to to the slaves of getting my nation's up the road by the way up the road Yes The four Ds to protect yourself now West Nile virus comes in a mosquito. Oh with a little bow on it, nicely packaged. So if you want to protect yourself from West Nile virus you need the four D's Avoid going out between dusk and dawn Make sure you dress appropriately And drain any standing water But there is a fifth It's called insect repellent that contains DEET Now what do you know about DEET?

2:23:07 It's a chemical you spray all over yourself and then mosquitoes don't like it. They won't bite it is diethyl meta- tolu- tolomide And this one our producer found, it has some interesting side effects You don't want to bathe in this stuff. Diethyl metal tulamine. Now wait for it Side effects include altered mental state parathesias

2:23:44 Oops. What is parathesius? And on individual, even developed grandiose delusions you can become verbally aggressive irritable and belligerent So I think we need to be very careful with the deet because you could become belligerent and if your belligerent That wouldn't be good Then your ripe for the drone It's also slightly toxic for cold water fish such as the rainbow trout

2:24:23 Damn them trout No, no breaking news this morning I've only been able to look at these documents briefly and for all the grief we give the The lamestream media the one thing that they are able to do with their resources is file Freedom of Information Act requests. The so-called foyers now give them that and So both in New York Times and the ACLU had filed Freedom of Information Act requests against the Department of Justice or with the Department of Justice and the CIA for information on targeted droning of American civilians. And this just came out this morning, I have the documents here you'll find them in the show notes 419r.nashownotes.com The response from the CIA and from the Department of Justice speaks for itself

2:25:26 This matter involves the government's significant efforts to be open and transparent on the one hand, and to protect against the release of information harmful to national security on the other hand. The Freedom of Information Act represents a balance struck by Congress between the right of the public to know and the need for the government to keep sensitive information in confidence." The consolidated FOIA requested issue here seek multiple categories of records relating to the alleged US government use of targeted lethal force against U.S. citizens and other persons associated with Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. The issues surrounding the US government's use of lethal force are undoubtedly of the utmost public concern." Really? And for that reason, officials at the highest levels in the executive branch have carefully analyzed the various interests at stake

2:26:10 One result of that analysis has been a series of speeches by the State Department legal advisor, by the Department of Defense General Counsel, by the Attorney General and the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism have set forth for the American people the legal analysis and process involved in determination whether to use legal force. At the same time, the executive branch deliberations reflect the reality that plaintiff's requests implicate highly sensitive records! For example to enumerate and describe the records responsive to the FOIA request would tend to reveal whether or not these central intelligence agency is authorized to, and does in fact directly participate in targeted lethal operations. Yeah that's the whole point! And whether or not the US government possesses specific intelligence information about particular individuals I could go on but the bottom line is you're good you're not getting it they're saying

2:27:04 Yes, the only thing we can say is that we have video files of Brennan and Holder saying that we use drones That's the only thing they're willing to release nothing else interesting So there's probably more people on the drone list to kill. I don't understand how the left-wing progressives can tolerate this presidency? What exactly does left wing progressive mean, John? What the hell does that actually mean? Socialist Okay thank you so why don't you just call them the socialists then Well they don't like that term anymore Well who is a socialist Who is a socialist? Tom Hartman Thumb Yeah

2:27:44 The whole Democracy Now crew. Okay, they're all left-wing progressives. They would admit it. United Nations investigator on extrajudicial summary or arbitrary executions says the United States drone strikes may challenge international law. Duh! Killings may be lawful in an armed conflict, but many targeted killings take place far from areas where it's recognized as being an armed conflict. No conflict! So what are they gonna do about it? Nothing. What do you want to even hear about this? Remember you heard this on the podcast Yeah Why are you listening at this on a podcast? And then when... This was kind of interesting

2:28:39 I was reading there was an article in, uh...I think it's the China...what is this? The China Daily. Is that the...? Yeah, Chinadaily dot com about the new Silk Road which, uh.. You know by the way before you go on, the whole Silk Road meme in and out of China is ludicrous because there's like There must have been 50 of them but anyway go on just every time you turn around to Silk Road Well the one they're talking about specifically is a railway And here's the description of it and they're building pieces of it, although in some parts the track gauge is different which is just hilarious. Oh that's funny! Change the wheels! Yes a land bridge that traverses more than 10 000 kilometers through China Central Asia and Eastern Europe before arriving at European trading hubs Rotterdam and Antwerp The whole trip takes about two times... uh 2 weeks

2:29:36 The route is expected to benefit more than 40 countries and regions by taking less than half the time, and enjoying a similar reduction in cost with transporting goods by sea. Other routes under the Eurasian Land Bridge include an earlier one that consisted of the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Russian seaport Vladivostok. Yet another rail link considers connecting, by the way that would take it through North Korea, connecting the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen with Rotterdam." And so the interesting thing is in a... Anyone doesn't take you through North Korea? Vladivostok then would be at the seaport Yeah! North Korea's not near Vladivostok It's right across the water there

2:30:24 I don't know it's not across the water. Yeah, it is yes doesn't run through North Korea Vladivostok is within spitting distance of North Korea well go on with your story and I'll look it up go look it up we are I know this because there's a pipeline that they want to build between the yeah we know about the pipeline but the train doesn't go through there no I'm sorry now the train doesn't go through there but anyway I shouldn't have brought If you look at this train, this route that they're proposing and that's in the show notes as well. It has to go through Belarus! So I do one Google search on Belarus and oh yes headline... Belarus may be providing Syria with deadly military technology. It's like anywhere you go there they are bringing up some terrorism crap

2:31:26 Oh, Belarus. You know I have to say you might the Russians and I think the Chinese also must be besides themselves with the phony baloney information, because we always accuse the Russians of propaganda and all the rest. They suck at it! They suck! And we're like good and they were also accusing the Chinese of human rights and we have the most prisoners in the world I mean it's like these groups would say what are we doing wrong? We can't get our message across if anything. Any their messages of hopeless they need to hire the curry Dvorak consulting group I know they listen to us because I look at Russia today, and they brought in that chick. That is definitely cute You know what? I'm talking about now. I don't you know The last time I saw Russia today was that clip. I showed you if Tom Hartman that was it I don't tell me uh she's cute

2:32:16 Let me just see what is her... she's got really long legs but she does a plus. No no no because she wears pants! What? Yeah they make her wear pants and she can't read, her read is so horrible let me just find it. She can't read. Now they need us they desperately you know you and I could take any beautiful woman and turn her into an instant Television news media sensation A Media sensation I tell you, you know no instead they've got Max Keiser Okay They've got farm Hartman and they've got the Julia and Julian Assange show You know it's like yeah. What is this girl's name? Hold on let me let me just look at the YouTube videos here Russia to do video She's very cute

2:33:12 But she's not blonde. Well that's a problem, there are plenty of blondes in Russia. Let me see if I can... where is she? Maybe the chat room knows what her name is. No. Something with an M. I'm just looking at the preview on YouTube but I none of the thumbnails show her. You can get off of this cuteonly.com Oh hold on a second it's a Russian single Russian girls for love and marriage I bet you only there's about 10 girls on here that would be out exactly this one how about Yana? We could turn her into a superstar or Katya look at Katya from Minsk Look at her man, look at her

2:34:05 I'm Katja from Minst. She's a non-smoker, non-drinker. I was thinking Irina from... Irina? Let me see. ...Gunets on the right. Uhh..I don't see her. Oh! Irina! Irina! Wooo! Oh yeah. No she has a...she has...look we can give her a degree...now she is...her nose is a little off. Well yeah you're right. Her nose is too big. We could give her a degree and put on a sleeveless. How about Veronica She might be a little better. She's not blonde, but she has that smart look about the right Look and she could be bleached you and I can turn any one of these ways Honey we got to bleach your upper lip a little bit just Look at Yana look at Yana tell me yanna is not perfect. Let's see yeah

2:34:54 Look at Yana. No bleaching required, she's 5'4", we'll just make her sit down. She has a little... She's a journalist! Hello? Hello she is a journalist, bachelor degree in journalism. Yeah yeah, bachelor degree journalist that's a good thing. She doesn't belong to any religion so she is not a religious non-smoker social drinker And I can sit still. This is what, this is her ideas about me. I cannot sit still! I love to translate ideas into reality like the grandiose projects like a mad... She sounds like a nut but she likes journalism advertising photography and travel perfect yeah good you're hired tell them telling hello Vladimir Vladimir Putin this is a message from the curry Dvorak consulting group

2:35:43 If you want to improve your propaganda, you need to hire us. We are the guys! We know how to do this stuff okay? Yo Maybe that whole Syrian trip, maybe that is like a... maybe they're vetting me. That's a part- you know they may be just dragging you over there so he could do some consulting on the side But that would mean they're trying to get it for free It's not like- Oh yeah well now you know how to deal with that I need to take it You know when their trying to get it for free Yeah I need to take our PowerPoint make sure that then y'know not trying to bone us or something Yeah and drop a few off, few PowerPoints off I gotta print up the business cards and drop a few powerpoints off

2:36:22 We laugh, but we absolutely mean this and we're not trying to be... We do. Yeah! I'm not trying to be douchebags about women but if you want- No we're not! This is the way broadcasters talk all the time If you want a successful television network and program, first thing we'd come in and do is Assange out. Thom Hartmann out Max Keiser great But he needs that- You know I like her Stacey is not a good sidekick He needs a smoking hot Ruski babe Two. On either side! Yeah I mean, she can still write for the show because she's very smart but she has just the wrong look and then we need anchors man, anchors And you need more... That whole operation looks like a cheap production Wait a minute, this one is like Hello? I'm Yana This is Russia Today

2:37:23 Today in headlines I give you look at my legs. I'm telling you we can do this stuff We know how to do this anyway to wrap it up from my end John today Germany versus Greece playing in Euro 2012 Nice little touch they're playing in Gdansk Which of course is a news would be this is the Polish corridor will be a great great place for a false flag event to get everything started again But I am still whole. I know that you're on You're still holding to Spain? I'm still holding to Italy as one of the final parties in the euro 2012 based on geo socio-political Theory theory Associated Press getting into the game by the way they've done a whole analysis and

2:38:10 about, let me see what the title is of this article. Excuse me while I throw up in my mouth. Oh! Could not find the path requested? Thanks Yahoo! Europeans get some relief with Euro 2012 wins was the title of it so they're like now they're trying to rip us off but instead we are actually predicting So Russia is out interestingly enough. Yeah, so I think it you thought they were gonna be in I thought was I thought was Russia Italy? I think it'll be Germany Italy now that's kind of where I'm going yeah, and you think Germanies out to they're not gonna let them win anything They'll get upset What's the current what's the worst a breakdown what's games coming up? Let me see I can tell you hold on we just by the way You can go to our discussion tree on the matter which is

2:39:04 Euro 2012 curry calm now. Let me just find let me see what's coming up today Okay, here we go We have the matches this they're gonna do the year the uefa the uefa Website is pretty handy for doing this okay tournament would you a pho uefa? Well it's how you got to dig down deep uefa comm but I haven't launched that okay Here's the tournament map Today we have Czech Republic against Portugal. Portugal wins? Yes, okay then... oh I'm sorry tomorrow we have Germany versus Greece. Greece wins that's the upset

2:39:50 No, Germany wins. Okay well I'm not gonna...I wouldn't put money on that one so i'm not as sure about that one but I am guessing the opposite. Hold on let's just write this down hold on a second let's write this down so you say Portugal wins from Czechoslovakia I'm saying Germany beats Greece the Greece need to shut up and that's why okay That could be Let me just uh predictions predictions I'm putting this in the show notes Okay, then we have Spain versus France on Tuesday. That's where I think Spain will win. Spain beats France and then we have England versus Italy on Wednesday and that will be Italy beats the UK Do you have any different opinion?

2:40:43 Uh, well I do have the Greece. Imma stick with Greece You're sticking for Greece? So John you're saying... ...Greece wins And just to be a contrarian i'm gonna pick England Really? Cause I wanna get this Italy thing out of the way and now's the time No no no This is the whole reason why they have to win! I know what your saying! I am saying Spain is going to win and so Italy has gotta be taken out sooner than later you don't want them at the end Okay We've go it We're good to go. Place your bets. Are you taking Germany or Greece? I'm sorry, of course... You're taking Germany right? Yes! So you're taking Portugal, Germany Spain and Italy No, I didn't say that about Portugal. You said that. I think uh... Oh, I did say Portugal Um no i think Ronaldo is going to throw the game so who's gonna win Czech Republic beats Portugal Okay all right okay it's done deal

2:41:48 Place your bets everybody, place your bets. My goodness we went long again we didn't even have a long donation segment. We should've gone along What? We shouldn't have gone along why didn't you- Why didn't she shut up? You should've stopped while you were ahead Support, we didn't get enough support in this show. We got 420 coming up I remind people that if they want to uh Especially it's funny we got two 420 donors that never donated before and i'm glad they did And hope they get a few more Indeed. Maybe some associate executive producers would be nice Oh yes Okay Anyway, I didn't mention at the top of the show but i'm very ill from the mold poisoning which has come back to hit me You sound fine Well yeah it's what-I put the effort in for the show but I've been sleeping you know every single day during the day I'm so beat up But that doesn't matter When there is evil to fight We fight

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