Episode 415 · Thursday, 7 June 2012

Om the Dome

Global power brokers descend on Virginia for Bilderberg while the State Department maneuvers for control of Syrian energy corridors and Arctic mineral wealth.

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Georgia and Turkey this week to solidify Western energy interests and coordinate a post-Assad transition in Syria. The diplomatic tour focused on the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline and Arctic mineral rights under the Law of the Sea Treaty, positioning the United States against Russian influence in the Black Sea and North Pole. These maneuvers coincide with reports of U.S. and Canadian firms securing $20 billion in Haitian mining permits following the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund initiatives.

In domestic politics, Governor Scott Walker survived a historic recall election in Wisconsin, dealing a significant blow to organized labor despite media narratives regarding campaign spending disparities. Meanwhile, the Obama administration faced scrutiny after investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill labeled drone strikes in Yemen as mass murder on MSNBC. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta defended these operations as a matter of American sovereignty during his visit to India, even as USAID canceled a $20 million contract for the Pakistani version of Sesame Street due to local corruption allegations.

Webster Tarpley appeared on the Alex Jones Show to allege that billionaire Peter Thiel used Ron Paul as a stalking horse for Mitt Romney during the 2012 primaries. The episode also features a breakdown of the Bilderberg Group meeting in Virginia, where Garry Kasparov and Anatoly Chubais were spotted among the global elite. John C. Dvorak celebrates his daughter Mimi Dvorak’s high school graduation while Adam Curry recounts a high-stakes roadside assistance incident involving the Austin Police Department and a helicopter.


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CHAPTER 01 / 28 Discussion

Mimi Dvorak High School Graduation, Homeschooling Success

John C. Dvorak discusses his daughter Mimi's graduation from a high school in northern Washington. Despite being homeschooled until high school, she achieved straight A's and delivered a successful speech at the ceremony. The school, described as a "hippie school," does not designate a valedictorian.

mimi dvorak· john c. dvorak· homeschooling· graduation ceremony· valedictorian

00:00 You're watching too much CNN to catch this. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, June 7, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 415. This is no agenda. Preparing for state-sponsored terror attacks here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Tejas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from lookout point over the San Juan de Fuca Sanctuary in northern Washington where the USA meets Canada, I'm John Cena. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! It like rains or pours with you, you know? It's like either we get a full-on stinger or it's... you're like, huh. Anyway. You're in Studio B.

00:49 Studio B. I gotta add that and actually yeah to the end of that whatever it was Actually, you know the connection actually sounds pretty good. I have to say So all the all the whole families up there the kids Mimi everyone's up there. I'm all good Jays graduated from high school. Oh did you did she have the ceremony? Yeah, it was yesterday, last night. Oh, was it fun? That must have been nice. It was actually wasn't bad. She gave a little talk, this was kind of funny. Wait, is she valedictorian? There's no valedictorians at these hippie schools. Wait, I thought she was homeschooled.

01:28 No, no, she was homeschooled until she got to high school age and then she wanted to go to school so she went to this school. But straight A's, the top student of course, because why? She was homeschooled. Yeah, no, that's why, because she was homeschooled. Yeah, of course, so straight A's, but not valedictorian because the hippie school that she went to doesn't have that. And she's trying to be funny. We both, Mimi and myself, we're going over, saying, no, no, no, this is no good. You gotta do this. You gotta change this line. Hey kid, you're not funny, okay? It's not good. This is not gonna work. So she tells us to shove it, and she gives this little speech and kills. Really? Everyone loved it. Yeah, they almost gave her a standing ovation. Oh my goodness. Well, there you go. Go away and put her on the show.

CHAPTER 02 / 28 Discussion

Austin Police and Fire Department Assistance, Mickey Curry Incident

Adam Curry recounts an incident where his wife, Mickey, experienced a car overheat on Route 2222 in Austin, Texas. The Austin Police Department and Austin Fire Department responded with multiple units, including a fire truck and helicopter support. Curry praises the first responders for their assistance and notes the high level of service provided to his wife.

austin police department· austin fire department· mickey curry· adam curry· car overheat

02:33 Now he should. I had my first... She doesn't listen to C-SPAN enough. Well, it's alright. It's alright. I'm very happy. You should be very proud. It's great. I had my first encounter with APD and AFD yesterday. APD. The Austin Police Department. Yes. AFD. Austin Fire Department. Yes. Yes. So I'm just about to put these two little... Was the place on fire? Yeah, well, I was just about to put dinner in the oven and Miss Mickey calls me. And, uh, you know, you know Mickey, right? She's, uh, she's tough. But when it comes to like mechanical things, uh, she turns into a, I'm going to sound sexist now, but into a super girl.

03:22 It's like that and spiders. And so I get this call like from her cellphone. You know, I'm like, okay, where are you? I'm like, seriously, that's what it sounds like. Are you okay? She's, I pulled over, the smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke. I'm like, well, where are you? She's, I'm on 2222 by Jester. I'll be right there. Now of course it's been in the 90s here. So I figure either the car is overheated or something's going on. Yeah, somebody forgot to put water in the radiator. So I jump in the truck and I grab a couple of gallons of water and I'm driving down.

04:19 And she's on the opposite side of this 22 to route 22 farm to market route 22 22 and yeah the card overheated and I'm not quite sure why but I guess a hose burst or something I don't think the radiator burst But maybe it was a hose or who knows what happened because all the fluid just like had apparently just blown out But the funny thing is so there's miss Mickey by the side of the road and she's looking good you know she's got her sexy see-through skirt on she's got her you know sleeveless top. John there's cop cars there's a huge fire truck there's helicopter support and I pull off and it only got better for those dudes it's like you're the guy from MTV

05:08 It was like, ah, but it was so funny. You know, just an overheated car, which, you know, it happens particularly with an older car since from 1999. And she was sitting in the truck, you know, they were giving her oxygen, cooling her down. Give her oxygen. Can I massage your breasts, ma'am? Yeah, really, really. I think you need some CPR right here, lady. It was nice though. It was nice to see my tax dollars at work. Did they, will they send me a bill for that? I don't think so, will they? That depends on the municipality. Some places will send you a bill for that, some places won't. It depends. I don't know how they handle it. These guys literally... They know ambulance services, they tend to do that. There were literally four firemen, you know, with a hood up trying to fix it for her. I mean, that's how far this went. And like, you know, and you know that if she wasn't cued over, let's just say if it was me... Or some fat guy. Yeah, you know... Normal Texan. Yeah, you know that no one would care.

06:14 Yeah. Anyway, shout out to Austin PD and Austin FD. That was, uh, that was, thank you for taking care of my wife. Did you bring some cards and hand them out? Tell him to listen to the show. I told him about the show, uh, but no, I didn't know. I thought Mickey was needed help. You know, I had no idea that she was going to be there hanging out with, you know, 10, uh, support people. I always have cards in the wallet. I ran out of cards. It's all done anyway in the morning to your John C. Dvorak. And in the morning to you Adam Curran, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water and feet in the air. Yes, and to all of our human resources in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, in the morning to Mr. Oil and Gitmo Slaves, or Gitmo Slave who have gotten us streaming once again. We do it twice a week and we do it at 9am Gitmo Nation West Time in the morning on Thursdays and Sundays. Some call it the best podcast in the universe. We have evidence to back that up but we don't want to toot our own horn.

CHAPTER 03 / 28 Discussion

Bilderberg Group Meeting 2012, Alex Jones Protest

The 2012 Bilderberg Group meeting in Chantilly, Virginia, is analyzed as a gathering of global elites. Alex Jones and Jim Tucker are noted for their annual protests and attempts to uncover the secret locations of the meetings. The discussion characterizes the event as a "drinking club" for celebrities and power brokers that the mainstream media is prohibited from reporting on in detail.

bilderberg group· alex jones· chantilly virginia· marriott hotel· jim tucker

07:17 Quite an amazing few days here between our last program and today. I would have to say you might have to change your entry in the red book regarding the presidential Who will be president in 2012 starting 2013. I put who's going to be the nominees, I never put who's going to win. Did I say who's going to win? Yeah, you said Obama's going to get re-elected. Oh yeah, I'll stick with it. with my basic assertion that it's the same people behind both parties. Yeah, no, I mean that makes it kind of a ludicrous prediction because of that. I agree with that. I don't think either one of us have ever doubted, you know, I think that's a common belief. I think it's accurate and I'm not going to argue that. Right. Well, I think they've made their decision and it's going to be Romney. They made their decision. Yeah. Well, here's what's kind of interesting. So,

08:21 We didn't talk about it at all because, you know, quite frankly, if I would bring it up, you'd say, it's just a drinking club. And, you know, this is Bilderberg. And the thing that's interesting about Bilderberg is the alternative media goes crazy about it. And this is kind of the Alex Jones's MTV Video Music Awards. You know, this is the culmination of his year. And I'll give him respect that he has always been seeking out him and what's the other guy's name? Jim Tucker. They always seek out where the secret locations are. And it's like, all they're missing is a red carpet. Because it is a veritable cornucopia of stars of the world elite stage that go and meet somewhere. And this year they had chosen Chantilly, Virginia in a Marriott hotel, which should be pointed out, is a Mormon outfit. That's Mormon owned as far as I understand.

09:22 So that's kind of an endorsement right there. It's a publicly held company. Right, but I think it's pretty obvious. Well, someone will correct us if we're wrong. I'm not going to deal with it. I am not looking it up in the book of knowledge. No, that's okay. So anyway, so this is a kind of a cheer fest and Alex Jones goes there and gets a bullhorn. The script is the same every single year. It's like Alex Jones will be there yelling through a bullhorn. They'll talk to a whole bunch of cops and then although you'll never hear it on the recording, well the cops here in uniform, they say, hey Alex, we're with you. These guys are elites.

10:06 And of course and then Alex always has to get thrown out of the hotel so okay So that's kind of the same script and you never really see anything and of course it is interesting from to a certain point because the news doesn't report on it because that's kind of the rule of you know the Bilderberg Fight Club they invite some of the elitist from the mainstream media and and you're not allowed to talk about it. So of course what goes on there is, you know. By the way, I have to say this goes on in other venues and it's deplorable. What's deplorable? What is the point of having the media out there in the first place if they can't talk about it? That's what they do for a living. Right, well so of course that spawns the conspiracy theory that this is where everything is all plotted and where they come up with the ideas. And I have to say, if you just look at what's been going on

10:56 the anti-Obama news, particularly from MSNBC and CNN and other more what you'd think were left-leaning outfits, you never know. So a couple of interesting things this year on the... Well let me say in defense of the media. Okay. If it is as I believe to be a drinking club and maybe some wife swapping maybe a little it could be Then the media is you know they could they would go in there with it with the known a you know you're gonna let you in here because you're gonna see you know the ambassador to the West Indies plastered and probably having sex publicly you want to come in but you can't talk about it that's different

11:40 Right, but still be then in a in a memoir some years later, but it's not real news to the public anyway It's a drinking club. I mean, I don't think we really care separate Alex Jones Well, we do kind of like celebrities and you know The celebrities are a big deal and these and these are all celebrities in their own right and loony there. I I don't know if Clooney... Bet you was. I don't know. No, I think he's second tier to this. This is really the top dudes. And I've interviewed people and I've met people who have been there. You know, Secretary of State for the Netherlands. And you can ask all you want and he'll smile and be real coy and won't answer the question.

CHAPTER 04 / 28 Discussion

Webster Tarpley, Ron Paul and Mitt Romney Allegations

Webster Tarpley appeared on the Alex Jones Show to claim that Ron Paul acted as an "attack dog" for Mitt Romney during the 2012 Republican primaries. Tarpley alleged that billionaire Peter Thiel, a Bilderberg steering committee member, funded Paul's campaign to facilitate Romney's path to the nomination. The segment highlights the heated confrontation between Tarpley and Jones regarding Paul's political motives and nepotism.

webster tarpley· ron paul· alex jones· adam kokesh· peter thiel

12:18 I'll just say, well, it's kind of like a sales meeting. We go and sell what we can do for each other. It's a drinking club. But something interesting happened this year, and I sent you the video, and I don't know if you watched it. Probably you didn't because it was unbearable. But there's a guy who's also I love that video. There were two so one Okay, so this has grown over the years and now we also have Adam Kocash who does Adam versus the man? Who I also think you know he has his own niche and he's a vet and And he's gone completely, you know I would say libertarian

12:59 And is fighting hard for... Meat jerk libertarian. Which I never thought existed, but now I realize it is the case. So he does interesting shows and there's a lot of challenging of the mainstream consensus. And I like it. And I get lots of ideas and I watch and listen to stuff as a part of my healthy media diet. So this other guy Webster Tarpley. Webster Tarpley, I think he has a doctorate in economics and history. And I followed him for a number of years. He's a very frequent guest on the Alex Jones Show. And what's interesting about him is because he throws out so many little anecdotes and foreign language quotes.

13:46 There's no way you can fact-check everything he's saying, but when you're like, I'm gonna look up what he just said, it typically turns out to be true. And he knows, and he can pronounce all the names of all the Russians and everything. It's impressive. But he, for the first time, he dissented, and not only did he do it in a sit-down interview with Adam Kokesh, but also with Alex Jones, and he, and I have a little clip of this like an hour long thing, He was there saying you know Ron Paul is no good. I think he actually said Ron Paul was like a leprechaun Well, yeah, and he also implied that Ron Paul Was only in the election When you I want to play the clip because that's because you're kind of explaining what he said yeah go for it, but the set it up and

14:35 He said that on the steering committee this year of Bilderberg is Peter Thiel and Peter Thiel, of course, Silicon Valley guy. And but also a major donor to the Ron Paul campaign. He says that and this is true. He gave the Ron Paul campaign two point seven million dollars. So he sits down with Alex Jones and he and he goes in and he's really railing on Ron Paul. And when I saw a he had some facts in there, which I checked. But B, it was interesting to see how Alex Jones couldn't handle this and you know started yelling and screaming and calling names and it really weakened for me forever.

15:14 Or it really made me question this entire Bilderberg thing. It seems like a perfect way to get you know disinformation out into the ether But here's a little bit of that of what Webster Tarpley had to say. This is not real. Ron Paul is famous as a nepotist. My figures are that he's got 60 people plus of his relatives, relatives, either on the congressional office payroll or on the payroll of his campaign. Jesse Benton, that a lot of people in the Ron Paul campaign tell me they can't stand, is married to Ron Paul's wife. Granddaughter I believe right and remember the entire purpose of the campaign is nepotism It's to feather the nest for little Rand so that he has a political future and again Let's look at who this is this is Romney now people I think the better people who are interested in Ron Paul They don't really understand his economics although they should so you have Santorum. No you have to look at every debate where he had a chance to

16:13 Ron Paul was attacking him because Ron Paul was the attack dog for Romney and anybody who watched it should be able to see that fact this Why do we have to be tied to a cynical politician? But you're running interference for Ron Paul and he's running interference for Romney, where does that leave you I Listen, you see what I mean? Romney's an unknown country. I've exposed his ties to pay all of it. Now listen, stop right there. Finish up with your wrongful finish. Let's move on to the next subject. Go ahead. Hold that. Go ahead.

16:50 A vote for Ron Paul was a vote for Romney. So you love Obama? No, no. I take second place... Charlie, move on from the Ron Paul finish. I was the first person to go down the street. The anti-Ron Paul stuff is going nowhere. I think in the relevant universe to expose Obama. So I have the credentials. In other words, I was telling left liberals in 2008, you're being duped. Today, I tell people like you, you're being duped by Ron Paul. Stop it.

17:26 Same story. I suppose now let me just talk about your triumphalism right what you're what you're saying that The page and then he goes on so I found this interesting first of all this program is called no agenda So as much as it hurts me to say well, maybe there's something cuz you know I know I'll get attacked for this I thought it was worth discussing that I thought that was a very interesting theory and I think you know yelling like I Whatever Alex Jones was doing was a weak a weak response, and it then I thought it was lame But in the meantime I thought it was a very interesting thesis well I was all in on it a couple things that came to mind I didn't listen to that what the Jones? Stuff and was allowed to talk yeah, although not really because coach Kesh also wouldn't give him the mic That's kind of lame, but yeah, he still got most of the what his points were he got him in and

18:23 It was kind of glib about it. But this was very similar to what Huckabee did to help get McCain in. He ran interference. And I didn't think much of the idea that he would... In fact, we should have probably caught it earlier, although I had actually suggested, if you remember in the red book, that Ron Paul couldn't win. Under any circumstances and you were very oh no he could he can sure he can and so I kind of backed off on that But here's here's the interesting thing that came to mind during this whole thing one besides that Huckabee parallel Washington State where I'm right now. I'm floating around

19:00 It's got Ron Paul signs everywhere. And according to Buzzkill Jr., who studied the politics of the state, he says that this was the state that Ron Paul would was a shoe in to win. He would actually have won a state, but he pulled out of the election completely because of the supposed mathematical elimination, even though he could have still stayed in the primaries and won this state and made a bigger point. But he didn't have to now. I mean, if he had not have dropped out. and ran in Washington, I would be more in defense of Ron Paul, but the fact that he didn't, and there's money that was already collected for his campaign. There are signs everywhere, huge Ron Paul signs in this state. They're everywhere. And he's done, but he's not even gonna, you know, he's up, I'm done, job's done, essentially. I'm buying it, I buy the thesis.

19:52 Well, there was a couple other things. By the way, I love the chat room. Chase says, Jones has more money than you dipshits. Well, that would kind of prove my point, wouldn't it? If you're a disinfo agent. Why do we have a chat room that is, you know, if this happened in Leo's chat room. Boom, gone. The IP address would be noted down. That guy would never be back. Yeah, but I don't want, I don't like that. He likes Jones so much. Go listen to reruns of Jones rather than listen to us. I don't mind. I really don't mind. I don't mind that. I'm on Leo's side. This is the way these people should be. They're not doing us any good. They help correct the fact. It's not. Well, no, that's a fact. That's a good fact. Not a fact. But Jones has more. He's got his staff too. Yeah, he's got his staff. Yeah. We are on the other hand are just getting by. So anyway, I did look at the, uh, at what he was saying about Ron Paul. We'd be making more money if that cheap guy would cheap bastard would give us it.

CHAPTER 05 / 28 Discussion

Garry Kasparov, Anatoly Chubais, Russian Privatization

Webster Tarpley discusses the presence of Garry Kasparov and Anatoly Chubais at the Bilderberg meeting, linking them to the privatization of Soviet state property. Kasparov is characterized as an agitator attempting to organize a "color revolution" against Vladimir Putin. The analysis suggests that the inclusion of these figures at Bilderberg represents a Western declaration of political war against the Russian government.

garry kasparov· anatoly chubais· vladimir putin· privatization· bilderberg

20:49 I did fact check what Tarpley was saying regarding the basically starving the American children and he has a point about stopping the pregnant mother subsidy, whatever it's called, SNAP. Paul rationalizes it very well so I am not going to completely condemn him for any of these ideas. No, no. But I thought... I found it very interesting the Peter Thiel stuff. Well yeah and so... Following on on that I really discovered quite a lot now We know that the Syria thing has you know is about Russia one way or the other I've discovered some more things and really was something else tarpley said and because you know Gary Kasparov was at the Bilderberg meeting as well Yeah, Gary Kasparov Of course most people know him as a chess player, but he also formed the other Russia which was a an anti party

21:46 political parties or the anti-communist party, although he was a member of the party and he's kind of a wacky guy. Remember the time that someone came up to him and hit him in the head with a chess board? Remember that? You don't remember that? No. No. I don't remember that. That was, well, it was funny. I thought you would have remembered that. I don't remember it. I don't remember. Well, the guy basically just causes a ruckus all the time. And, and Tarpley went into this theory about Russia Which I really liked. Anatoli Tobias is the expert of what? Privatization. See I like it when he, this is stuff we'd never know. Anatoli Tobias, I wouldn't know that he's the expert in privatization. This is good, I enjoy this. What the Austrian school loves

22:50 Privatize it that's a Ron Paul ding by the way the Austrian school patient a deregulation This is the mother of the oligarchs in the woods. It's thanks to Anatoly Chubais that we have Kazarkov ski Potanin Berezovsky guzinski Friedman the rest of them in other words the the state property of the Soviet Union was privatized to the nomenklatura to the oligarchy to these predators and And they have now constituted a state within the state. We saw it in the presidential election. But Putin kicked them out. Putin has fought them more effectively than anybody else. Now, the other guy that you have, in addition to Chubais, whose name is execrated all across Russia, Garry Kasparov. Now, Kasparov is a chess champion. And he's in Bilderberg. What does that mean? Yeah, but who is he? This is essentially somebody

23:45 who goes, he's an agitator who goes into the streets to organize a color revolution against Putin and his ally is quite frankly a Nazi. There's a guy called Eduard Limonov who calls himself a national Bolshevik who I think would by anybody's reference would get himself pretty much into the brown shirt category. Limonov is a hooligan. He's somebody who, you know, fights with cops all the time in the streets to attack Putin. So when you have Kasparov, it's like bringing Limonov to the meeting. In other words, this is an affront. This is a primitive affront to Putin and Russia, to have somebody of this wretched level of Kasparov. I'm amazed that he gets out. But he's here now. So this is basically saying, we declare war on Russia.

CHAPTER 06 / 28 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Georgia Visit, NATO Aspirations

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Georgia to express support for the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity against Russian influence. She appeared with President Mikheil Saakashvili, emphasizing the importance of upcoming parliamentary and presidential elections. Clinton's rhetoric regarding Russian "occupation" of Georgian territory is criticized as provocative and factually disputed.

hillary clinton· georgia· mikheil saakashvili· nato· rose revolution

24:39 Now I think Tarpley is probably, he probably loves Russia. But I like that. I, and it's okay. Now it's starting to make a little bit of sense. And then I see that Clippity-Clop is on her jet and she's just going nuts with all the anti-Russia stuff. Have you been following what Lucifer Clinton's been doing? Not completely, but I do know that this is all related to Syria. Well, no, no, no, that's not entirely true. She went to Georgia. I'm not. Okay, go on. She went to Georgia and the first thing, so first she's there unveiling. Hold on. The message is clear.

25:26 I think she has a lot to do before she leaves because she's really ramping it up for her her friends of the Texas oil companies. Of course, you know, the Clintons have always worked for the Bushes ever since the days of Mina, Arkansas. So she's out there and she's in front of a Georgian warship which has been upgraded with help from the US Coast Guard. This ship and its sister ships represent the resilience of Georgia's national spirit and the endurance of your sovereignty. America stands with you. We will not waver in our support for Georgia and your territorial integrity. Now, these are very important words. She's talking about sovereignty, territorial integrity. This is all, of course,

26:14 pointing towards Russia and we had in 2008 the five-day war which we now know although the mainstream media still has kind of forgotten it but even Georgia it was admitted that they started it not the Russians even though Russia gets the blame for it then she does a stand-up with actually she had spent a whole day and night in Georgia walking around town drinking there's all kinds of cool videos that I put in the show notes And Shaka's Vili who so they got an election coming up and of course these guys desperately want to be in NATO and we know that they're buying all kinds of weaponry from the United States now and obviously including this this upgrade to their ship and the US Coast Guard has helped with that He had to say he's wearing a blue suit like chroma-key blue suit was just the guy is an idiot Are you still there? Yeah? All right, your Skype made some noise

27:10 And so she does one of her little stand-ups with Chaka Zvily. This is about 40 seconds. And then she says something very interesting I didn't know. Yes, there will be military maneuvers. Oh, really? Military maneuvers? We're going to be doing military maneuvers up there? But the really important events of the fall will occur inside Georgia. as the people of Georgia cast their votes. The most critical event is not another country's military exercises, it is Georgia's

27:47 Elections and that will speak louder than any military exercise could ever do mm-hmm military exercises and this indeed is planned military exercises between the u.s. The Coast Guard interestingly enough, but the u.s. and and Georgia and then she said something that really got the Russians angry and there's been all kinds of news reports mainly Reuters reporting on it where she propagates the lie and You have taken important steps since the Rose Revolution, and your progress has been noted worldwide. Now it is up to Georgia to consolidate your democratic gains. That is the key to Georgia's future.

28:30 and it will bring Georgia closer to achieving your Euro-Atlantic aspirations. The parliamentary elections this fall and the presidential election next year are an opportunity for Georgia to deepen its democracy and strengthen the legitimacy of Georgia's democratic institutions in the eyes of your public and of the world. And I urge all the people of Georgia to remember, though you did make history with the Rose Revolution, the more difficult and ultimately the more important work may well be ahead. The work of building the habits and practices that sustain democracy over time. That means not only holding successful elections,

29:22 but also going beyond elections and strengthening the other key pillars of democracy, such as labor rights, judicial independence, media independence, and access. The United States remains steadfast in our support for Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity. We reject Russia's occupation and militarization of Georgian territory. Now that is just patently untrue. It's just untrue. Yeah, it's untrue. I'm telling you this is still Syria. This is more of the old... I'm getting there. I'm getting to the Syria thing. I'm wrapping it up here. I'm getting to you.

30:03 Just a reminder, Saakashvili was educated at Columbia University. They had the Rose Revolution and it was Shvernatsy who was defeated there, was ousted. And this is the puppet, the US puppet that was put in. By the way, the guy ate his tie during this whole Russian conflict. There's plenty of video of him eating his tie. He's such a megalomaniac. So right after this, she's like, okay, you remember that? Remember me? He's always chewing on his tie. But how's that become a megalomaniac because of that? He's just nervous. It's not normal, dude. It's not normal, dude. So then she hops on her jet. And where does she fly off to?

CHAPTER 07 / 28 Discussion

Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline, Yemen Energy Conflict

The geopolitical struggle over oil and gas pipelines in Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Turkey is examined as a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Recent sabotage of the Hunt Oil pipeline in Yemen is attributed to regional instability and competition for warm-water ports. The discussion posits that U.S. foreign policy in Syria and Yemen is driven by the need to protect Western energy interests from Russian encroachment.

baku pipeline· azerbaijan· yemen· hunt oil· energy security

30:43 Baku! We always do urge the government to respect their citizens' right to express views peacefully, to release those who have been detained for doing so in print or on the streets or for defending human rights. Ah, more human rights. Baku, of course, is Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan, we just recently... we always knew that the Azerbaijan European Song Contest was about oil. Specifically, this is about the Baku pipeline. And you can, you need to take a look at it, John, because then it becomes very clear. Baku.curry.com, B-A-K-U.curry.com. If you wouldn't mind just taking a look in the, before the chat room gets to it, B-A-K-U.curry.com. And that should forward you to a big picture of the Baku pipeline.

31:38 You got it? Yeah, it goes through Georgia too. Right. Well, this is it. It goes from Baku through Azerbaijan through Tbilisi. Then out to Turkey. This is very important for the gas industry trillions of dollars of petrodollars that go into Europe But you can see this other line. Here's what Russia has Russia has Baku all the way, you know, it's the Norvig disik oil pipeline and then to the Black Sea where they ship it out So this is you know, very important to hold back Russia and don't have them mess with our pipeline By the way, it's all American companies Israeli companies, etc. That are that are in there. I

32:17 Hey the pipeline theme well, so then I'm like this is interesting. I've got to take a look at the relationship between Syria and Baku or Azerbaijan and I come across from 2009 This is and I had no idea somehow we met we missed this just taking the one from Velt German the German publication, 2009. If you Google this, there's tons of stories. In 2009, this was the headline, in January, Russia plans Navy bases in Syria, in Libya, and in Yemen. I'm like, oh really? Well, that's interesting. One down, two to go. This was always the plan. This is the whole reason we're in Yemen. This is the whole reason we're in Syria.

33:18 is because the Russians were setting all of this up. They wanted the warm water port in Syria and they had negotiations as recent as 2011 for liquid natural gas storage, production, shipping and pipelines with Yemen. So this is just a complete war that were against the Russian oligarchs and Hillary Clinton is out there fighting it for the Texas oil guys. No, somebody's got to do it. Good for her. And here's the one that I loved. The Hunt family, HuntOil.com, so their pipeline got blown up by the Al-Qaeda, so wherever it is. And they have the pipeline that goes down to southern Yemen to, was it Kokos? What's the name of it? It's the port of Ras Issa in Yemen.

34:17 Hunt oil is now they've been around for a long long time a little interesting connection with with the Clintons as the heir to Hunt oil. What's her name? I think it's Jessica. Here it is No, Swanee Swanee She's the heir to the hunt oil Fortune was appointed ambassador to Austria by Bill Clinton during his presidency So these guys are way in bed and is it this is a Dallas, Texas company a Tyler, Texas to be exact and So the whole thing all of this is about keeping Russia's oil and gas at bay and keeping the American maybe the seven sisters Whatever we'd call it keeping them all in and right now this I go with the seven sisters I mean that's essentially who they real power to be yeah, those guys make sense doesn't it make sense? Yeah, and the Russians aren't playing ball. That's the problem and then the Syria thing is

35:16 So they blew up this Russian, this another Yemen pipeline. They keep blowing them up. There was one blown up in April, March, end of March. Well, I think, I think the Russians, I think it's proxy. I think the Russians are blowing up the American pipelines because it's this pipeline, Hunt's oil pipeline that got blown up and they're just now starting to rebuild it. They think it'll take seven months. Yeah, people can google southern Yemen pipe southern Yemen pipelines on and you'll find al-qaeda sabotages Yemen pipeline after raid Another pipeline blown up in you know. I don't I don't think it's al-qaeda. I think it's the Russians or someone someone by proxy

CHAPTER 08 / 28 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Turkey Visit, Syrian Regime Change

Hillary Clinton traveled to Istanbul, Turkey, to coordinate with the "Friends of the Syrian People" on a plan for a post-Assad Syria. She called the violence in Hama "unconscionable" and insisted that Bashar al-Assad must step down to allow for a democratic transition. The strategic importance of Turkey as a conduit for Black Sea oil tankers and regional pipelines is highlighted as a key factor in the diplomatic maneuvering.

hillary clinton· turkey· bashar al-assad· syria· istanbul

35:56 Yeah, and then okay, so that's complicated. Well, so they're all unidentified and the whole point is to get bases in Yemen. We have a large presence already, you know, under training missions. We've got enough drones and stuff. Syria. I think we'd love to have the, it's a warm water port. This is very important for Russia because they don't have warm water ports. Stuff gets frozen and you know, just think about the beauty of being in the Mediterranean. They'd love to be there in the Gulf of Aden in, uh, in the, what is it, southern Yemen and obviously Libya, we had to strike quickly on that one. So on the way back home, Lucifer stops off in Turkey. By the way, she has hair extensions. She's done something where she looks dynamite.

36:46 Have to say now she's from horrible to you know looks reasonably, but you know attractive for don't you agree? Don't you horrible you think she looks horrible now. No I didn't see the newest picture. Oh, no. She looks pretty good with the hair extensions I think who I was like darling darling got to do something about you got to do something I mean really before you know what they could be calling you a dyke stop it now and And so her hair is now down below shoulder length. She looks good. I think, you know, personally, I think she looks good. And she lays it all out. And this is probably going to be on the news today, but it came in late last night. I've heard violence that we witnessed again in Hama yesterday is simply unconscionable. Unconscionable. Assad has doubled down on his brutality.

37:34 double down metaphors and duplicity. Duplicity? What's duplicity? Didn't she play this clip already? No, this is brand new. She's always repeating herself. What does duplicity mean? What's duplicity? It means you're playing two sides against the middle. Syria will not, cannot be peaceful, stable or certainly democratic until Assad goes. Science is in. So even as we intensify the sanctions pressure, because as we were meeting in Istanbul, the sanctions working committee of the Friends of the Syrian People... The sanctions working committee of the Friends of the Syrian People.

38:12 So basically you're... Right. Yeah, that sounds great, doesn't it? ...was meeting in Washington. The time has come for the international community to unite around a plan for post-Assad Syria. Well, I think you couldn't make it any clearer to me. It's done. It's over with. And of course, there's a little issue. What is it? Oh yeah, the Russians are on the Security Committee. The Chinese, I believe, have just taken over the presidency of the Security Council. And the Russians of course don't want to have this because they're in a fight now in three places and they're not going to just roll over and let Syria go. So Lucifer has some tricky words for them. We have to unite the international community behind a plan that is achievable and keeps faith with those inside Syria who are

39:06 protesting and demonstrating suffering and dying for their universal human rights. We said last night we are prepared to work with any country including all members of the UN Security Council uh... and uh... we will do so so long as uh... any such gathering starts from the basic premise that a side and his regime must give way to a new democratic syria so this is very interesting what she said that we will work with anybody as long as you agree that the sun's gotta get out uh... and it's going to be interesting to see how they do this because the the u n nato

39:48 regulations are you know pretty much chiseled in stone and you know Russia has a veto on going and and how they're gonna get around that but they'll find a way well I think she has this kind of this theory is kind of interesting because it explains to me even though you didn't bring this up even though she went she did go to Turkey because Turkey's a big player in this whole there's a there the conduit of course because you have to get the boat out of Well, all the pipelines go through Turkey right now. All of them. I'm not talking about the pipelines. I'm talking about where they come into the Black Sea at the port where the boats are supposed to be outside of Georgia where they got now the Coast Guard. They put a coast... What does the Coast Guard do? They guard the coast. So the idea is you bring the pipeline to the coast of Georgia, right? Yeah. And then you put it on up. You bring in a super tanker. And then what do you do with the super tanker? Well, the only way you can get out of the Black Sea

40:46 is through a straight signal right next to Istanbul, which takes you into the Sea of Marmara, which takes you to another conduit that takes you to the Mediterranean. Now you can take those tankers anywhere you want. But of course Turkey is also key because it has the Black Sea border but it also has the Mediterranean border. So, you know, they've got Cyprus, they've got Lebanon, they've got Syria, they've got the whole Leviathan fields. So Turkey is in the catbird seat, as we call it. So we have to suck a lot of Turkish schlong and she's good at it. I mean, she's got more hair to grab onto. Yeah, well, I think the key is the shipping ports because you can put off a lot of oil in one of those super tankers and run it right out of there. So what's the key port of Turkey?

41:37 Well, Istanbul is where the conduit is. And then you have to get out of this other little area which is Khanakali. Once you're in this sea of Marma, Marna or whatever it is, you gotta get out of there too. So you just drive past Sarkoi. Drive, really? Yeah, to Kanakali. Well, yeah, the pilot guy. Hey, how you doing? Hey! Kanakali, or Sonakali maybe because there's a little funny thing under the sea. And then that takes you, and that's a huge thing, and then you go, then you're in the Aegean. That's the, is that the Bosporus? The Bosporus Straits? I don't know, maybe. I think it is. No, no, the Marma region. No, no, the Gulf of Izmit. Okay. Yes. And then you're good to go. Right. And then you can go. Then you're in the Mediterranean. Right. And then you can power it straight through to Europe or wherever it needs to go. Wherever you want to go. Yeah. That's good.

42:29 So Turkey has to, that's why, see this Turkey thing has always bothered me because they're, you know, they want to put him in EU which is trying to obviously get a hold of Turkey too. None of it has made any sense to me. Why are we warming up to Turkey? They don't want to do anything. They're turning very strict Muslim Islamist very slowly. We don't seem to mention that and then all of a sudden the Europeans want to cozy up to Turkey. Yeah, they want them to be a part of Europe. They want to join the EU and what's the point of that? They violate all the principles of the EU with their Islamist stuff. So we need to change the jingle desperately, John. To... The War on Jerky! Yeah. So anyway, that's interesting. It's a very interesting situation that's ridiculous. And somehow I have a feeling...

CHAPTER 09 / 28 Discussion

Law of the Sea Treaty, Arctic Oil Competition

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Tromso, Norway, to discuss the Law of the Sea Treaty and Arctic resource competition. The segment notes the ongoing dispute between Russia and the U.S. over exclusive economic zones and mineral rights in the North Pole. Clinton's active travel schedule is interpreted as an effort to secure U.S. energy dominance before her planned retirement.

law of the sea· arctic· norway· exclusive economic zone· hillary clinton

43:24 Guess we have to be involved in this or would just get screwy. We totally get screwed. Yeah, yeah, so we have to show Lucifer's doing a good job in that regard and well yeah crap and on top of this now of course we understand why the Law of the Sea Treaty is so important And because she went straight. I mean the woman is unbelievable. I'll give her that so then she flew straight up to Scandinavia and Went up to the the northern Norwegian city of what is it Tromso and got on an icebreaker there and was walking around and you know because If you look at it, even though everyone laughed at Sarah Palin. Yeah Alaska and Russia really do compete for 200 miles of exclusive economic zone

44:12 And that's where there's just tons and tons of oil and gas and minerals and all kinds of stuff. And unless you've forgotten that the Russians planted a, like a titanium pole at the bottom up there at the North Pole and said, this is ours. We own it. This was a, I don't remember that. Yeah. But something else is coming to mind here, which is that you played that clip of that guy talking to Alex Jones. What's his name again? Tarbly, whatever. Webster Tarbly. And we've discussed this before, which is the Exxon deal that Putin was shaking hands over. Because there's a picture of the CEO of Exxon and Putin. And if Putin's actually fighting against these oligarchs, who are the ones causing trouble perhaps, then it's possible that we're...

45:02 we'll do a deal with, I mean we'll work with Putin but we won't work with these guys because they're kind of going against the seven sisters. I don't know because you know when the elections were up, remember we had all that so-called rioting and protest against Putin which I'm pretty sure was more of Hillary's techno experts. I'm not too sure about that. Maybe you're wrong about that. Maybe it was actually the Russian troublemakers. Maybe it was the Kaspersky Well, it didn't work very well. So yeah, it could be the Kasparov gang. If we were doing it, let's take this. It would work. Yeah, if we would have worked, it would be a no fly zone over Moscow. We know we know how to do that stuff. Yeah, that good point. I mean, I've misinterpreted that data. Well, at any rate, it still is always about oil, oil and gas. That's just the absolute bottom line. But Hillary Clinton, I have to say, she's she's really she's rocking it. She's out there.

45:57 And who, you know, regardless of whether Obama is re-elected or we see Mitt Romney, which by the way I think will be very funny, it doesn't matter who wins because we'll have plenty of material. Yeah, we're going to be going from one war criminal to a guy who wants to be a war criminal. He wants the power not on the table but in his hand, he says. Who will be the Secretary of State because Hillary Clinton is running the show? But she's not going to see this is she I don't think she's you she's supposed to retire at the end of this. Yeah, she's no matter who wins. She's supposed to be out in 2030 and she's working herself to death I mean, I don't think you're gonna find another Secretary of State that worked this hard. So that tells me that she knows

46:43 that whoever, first of all I think she knows that Obama's not in, I think the Clintons hold so much power and we see Bill Clinton wielding that, which must cost him a lot of effort and energy, the guy does not look well, but he's all over the place and he's sticking little needles into the Obama administration. You know saying well, you know Romney's a good business guy and no don't you know don't knock on that and you know we should we should extend those tax cuts and you know, so the Clintons are definitely wielding their power and as we started the show off, I think it's all just shifted. It's a Romney is in for sure for sure and then we and

CHAPTER 10 / 28 Discussion

Wisconsin Recall Election, Scott Walker Victory

Governor Scott Walker survived a historic recall election in Wisconsin, defeating Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. The victory is seen as a major blow to organized labor and the Democratic Party's influence in the state. Media coverage of the event focused on the disparity in campaign spending, with some commentators declaring the result the "end of democracy."

scott walker· wisconsin· recall election· tom barrett· labor unions

47:30 For those of you not living in Gitmo nation proper here the Gitmo nation of United States. We had a recall election which was hilarious Yeah, it was hilarious because it was Oh Nick and Nick Oh, they're gonna kick him out and all the rest of it and now he didn't they did what it wasn't neck-and-neck, but the Old the governor trounced them Which has changed politics now completely for the Democrats and the unions. Right, because this was supposed to be the fight against big unionized organized labor, right? And the austerity driven Republican Scott Walker who was already in.

48:13 And I think that this was a big deal for the, certainly for the left media, who were saying, you know, this will determine everything, you know, big labor has to win, etc., etc. And there were a couple of really interesting things that happened. One of them, remember we read that piece about the White House insider during the 2008, what do you call it, the convention? the democratic convention about the something that they saw in the back room right so so the guy's dead yeah so one of the operatives one of the democratic uh organizers bundlers opera operatives he saw something some weird thing going on with obama and uh he winds up dead because he because he told someone about it so

49:11 So they're out there and let's just presume if we can, I don't like to do this but look at red, blue, Democrat, Republican, whatever. So we have the organized union labor people outside the state capitol there in Wisconsin and they're getting ready for the big fight. And what do they do? They do this. Now we're talking hundreds of people here, Jar. Where did you get this? Straight off of YouTube. Look, they're doing, ohm. Yeah. That's crazy. So this is desperation. Since when in America- It goes on and on. Since when in America do we do this at a political rally? This is new. They're ohming. This just goes on and on. That's a- I mean, that's-

50:24 I mean, I have nothing against doing the OM thing because it's a form of meditation. But at a political rally, when you're trying to get people to vote a guy out, this is what you do? This is... This is your solution? This is how you win? Now listen to the very end. See if you can hear it. I'll tell you what the lady says. Something got caught on mic. Hold on. This is unbelievable how long it goes on. Alright, so it's over now. and that there's a statement someone makes you can barely hear. Hold on. So let's gather hands and make our way circling around the Capitol to OM the Dome. OM the Dome! Let's circle around the Capitol. So they're gonna grab hands, firm a circle, and share a secret. What a bunch of

51:23 Corny, I mean this is desperation. No that is borderline pathetic now listen to this guy. Oh the dome Clip of the day. Oh hold on a second well if we're gonna get clip of the day then I wasn't expecting that but I'll take it But this one may be a close second so here's a disappointed First of all in American politics the way I was always brought up if you lose you're like alright, you know we lost but you know, that's my that's my guy now too and when you know, we'll just we'll have to work together

52:05 Right, you know, that's my president too and we'll have to, you know, he wasn't the guy I chose. Isn't that kind of the way, that's the way I was brought up. It's like, you know, that's democracy. You don't win. Okay, so we didn't win. All right, then we'll go with your guy and we'll make the best of it. You know, we'll be, we'll stand our ground, we'll make our points, but your guy. All right. So this is on MSNBC. This is, they're interviewing a somewhat sore loser. Volunteered for Barrett, voted today. You say you're very disappointed. A lot of folks here outside the Capitol sharing your opinion tonight. We're not just disappointed. This is the end of democracy. We just got outspent 34 million to 4 million dollars.

52:43 This was this was the biggest election in America, and I hope you keep me on tonight Because this hurts us all every single one of you out there in the nation if you're watching Democracy died tonight very emotional. I'm very emotional because we all had a lot invested in this this was it if we didn't win tonight the end of the USA as we know it just happened That's it. We just got out spent $34 million to $4 million. And we don't have any other resource left but the people you see here behind me. And if the people you see here behind me can't get it done tonight, it's done. Democracy's dead.

CHAPTER 11 / 28 Discussion

Wisconsin Campaign Finance, Spending Disparity Claims

An analysis of the Wisconsin recall election spending reveals that while Scott Walker raised over $30 million, Tom Barrett's reported $4 million figure only covered a two-month period. The discussion argues that when outside donations and union spending are included, the financial fight was more balanced than portrayed by outlets like Democracy Now. The hosts suggest the media emphasizes spending gaps to encourage more political donations.

campaign finance· scott walker· tom barrett· wisconsin· open secrets

53:20 By the way, that's a bogus 34 to 4. I mean, there was a lot of this. It was outside money for advertising and other things, but there was so much volunteer labor and well, this was this was the other forms of money that came into the other side. It was a pretty it wasn't probably even, but it wasn't for just four million. That's bull. Well, here's the so here's the meme from Democracy Now! And then, of course, I looked into the numbers. So our listeners and viewers around the country and around the world. We begin our show in Wisconsin where Republican Governor Scott Walker has survived a historic recall election over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. Walker won 53 to 46 percent, a 7 percent margin. He had outspent Barrett by a 7 to 1 margin. Alright, so that's the meme, a 7 to 1 margin, and then I went on Twitter and I said, can someone please show me the numbers because I'm very interested.

54:13 So there's the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign Recall 2012 and they get their numbers from OpenSecrets.org or whatever. And indeed they show, well here's the interesting parts of the numbers. So Scott Walker, total raise $30,505,000. Tom Barrett, total raise $3,938,000. Now, there's a little asterisk next to Tom Barrett because his campaign raising is from March 20th to May 20th, so that's two months. Scott Walker's number is from January 1st of last year. So, you know, it's not like he raised all this money at the same time and that he spent it all in these two months. Even more interesting,

55:00 Tom Barrett of the 3,938,000 he raised, he only spent 2,935,000 so he left another 1,455,000. For what? If it was all out? Why did you not spend 30% of your budget? You know, so don't give me this bull crap about those numbers and then the the big labor recall I have that in the show notes 415 dot any show notes calm there you can see that all the all the outside donations which Tipped over 20 million dollars. So it was a pretty equal fight. I would say when it when it came to money and

55:36 But now yeah, no I find it important. I find it important sides to the money coin one is to show the Republicans are unfair because they spent more money when they didn't but it's also to Keep that other number low is to encourage money to be spent for this upcoming election So the media can collect more income right I mean every time money is brought up you have to why is it being brought up? It doesn't really prove anything, but it does encourage more people who give to the, you know, to Obama, for example, he's going to be running short. So give him money so he can spend it. And so we can, as media people, we can make money. Right. I think it's corrupt. We have to give our executive producers. Oh, yes. Yes. Let's do that.

CHAPTER 12 / 28 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Credits

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors for Episode 415, including Executive Producer Jesper Holmberg and several Associate Executive Producers. Donors from Washington, California, Nevada, and Ontario are thanked for their financial support. The segment includes personal notes from producers regarding job successes and requests for "karma" for family members.

jesper holmberg· black knight aradarian· andrew gamble· knighthood· donations

56:19 Since we're going to be running into the other donation segment. We do have one executive producer. And one, two, three, four associate executive producers including Black Knight Era came in as an associate. But the Jesper Holmberg in Duval, Washington took $415. Happy 415 to show 415. Emergency donation so Adam won't have to resort to doing voiceover work for John's buddies. Yeah, I did I did a voiceover for Horowitz for the discipline investor. Yeah. Oh no too late I think my karma account is still in good standing, but if you have any despair I could use a top-up so give him a karma absolutely you've got Karma topped up. Thank you so much Jesper

57:12 Black Knight Aradarian in Chabuco Canyon, California 250. You guys do a fantastic job and I want to thank you for your hard work as a fellow podcaster. I know how hard it is to keep going through the summer months so I hope this donation makes it a bit easier. Thanks again. Thank you so much Black Knight. Andrew Gamble in Spring Creek, Nevada 20907. I'm not drunk but I should be so to say Stuff like you're drunk. No. He says I'm not drunk, but I should be so say this shit like you're drunk Oh, yeah, no you have to be drunk because I it doesn't I can't read non drunk writing drunk because it doesn't make any sense yeah There's another 69 69 times 3 which is 20907. Yeah, not really oh yeah it is yeah Yeah, how about that?

58:02 Cuz you guys make me laugh put it toward my knighthood But I want the Admiralty bonus being a retired Navy figure or Navy. I figure I should be an admiral somewhere You can make up your own uniform it can make it. Yeah, you watch as a knight You can't to shoot some karma at brother who just landed an awesome job, but is stressing because he is running the show He's executive chef of a half a looting country club Love is cooking. Well, we'll go out and visit him. Yeah, for sure. Spring Creek. This time he's my real name, Andrew Gamble. Last night, last time I signed off as Oscar slave and that confused the heck out of everybody. Hot Pox is going to be near Northeastern Nevada. Pronounce it right, Nevada. We want to show up and get drunk.

58:45 yeah oh yeah number two Hillary Clinton for his brother You've got karma. I'm telling you, if we're... Today's pro-Hillary Clinton day. We've said nothing but good things about her. She's looking out for us. She's saving our business. She's saving us from the Russian oligarchs. Who needs those guys? Sir Bereslov Marinov in Eliso Viejo, California, 20750. Please send some good karma to my expectant wife, my future human resource and my kids. You've got karma.

59:33 Finally, Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, $200 upon doing some slave scripting at readnoagenda.com, hint hint slaves. I thought I'd do a self-account, hint hint producers. 100 to hit knighthood by year's end and 50 for the heck of it, 50 for executive producer, $200, thanks for the greatest podcast. Awesome, thank you very much, Andrew. Thank you, appreciate that. That's it, right? Yeah, that's it. That'll be our 1, 2, 3, 4 executive, or one executive producer and four associates and we want to thank them and everybody else. who donated contributed to show 415 go to Dvorak.org slash NA especially for Sunday which has been very slow all year and it's not going to get any better. Yeah we'll talk about that in a bit. People don't aren't around. Yeah they're not. Let me uh. Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak.com slash NA no agenda show and no agenda nation.com. Yeah or we could always just it was you and just

CHAPTER 13 / 28 Discussion

Barack Obama LGBT Fundraiser, Ellen DeGeneres Joke

President Barack Obama made a controversial joke at a fundraiser for the LGBT community in Hollywood regarding Michelle Obama's push-up technique. The joke referenced a push-up contest between the First Lady and Ellen DeGeneres. The hosts debate the nature of the joke and the media's interpretation of its sexual undertones.

barack obama· ellen degeneres· michelle obama· fundraiser· hollywood

1:00:30 Close your eyes, open yourself to this. Of course, if you really are broke, living the American dream, you can always propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. YouTube your kids saying it. Shut up, slaves! Before we started you were you were reading something to me that came out. Yeah, yeah, okay, Obama. Yeah Obama's a California thing He's given a speech and he says apparently you know yeah We put a clip together once of one of his presentations where he just used all his jokes

1:01:20 And I still think he'd probably do an hour now. Michelle outdoes me in push-ups as well, he said, after saying that she's taken some criticism on her technique, because she doesn't go all the way down. And they let it hang. So what amazed me about this is that everyone is saying this is a blowjob joke. And I'm like, no, you're missing the point. He said this at a fundraiser for gay Hollywood. That's not what it's called. Maybe it's APLA or... And because it was gays, it wasn't about blowjobs? No. First of all,

1:01:59 He's talking about Michelle doing a push-up contest with Ellen DeGeneres, right? And I wish I had audio of this because I have a transcript where he, you know, he holds back and waits for the laughter. So it was intended as a joke. Going down is a lesbian thing. This is how stupid the press is in America. They don't understand that it was a lesbian joke. It's not a blowjob joke. Okay. So it's an oral sex joke. No, it's a specific, yeah, it's a cunnilingus joke is what it is, specifically. Uh, isn't that oral sex? I don't know, am I wrong? Yeah, but can we be specific? I don't think we have to be specific, it's the joke, I think, I know what you're saying, I think it's nitpicking.

1:02:44 Okay, there were gay men there weren't there or just all that it's about Ellen DeGeneres and about going down And and that is a term that is used with women Unusual thing to hear but okay you made your point. Yeah, thank you. You think Michelle was pleased with the joke no I don't think she's pleased at all She's pleased at all either because every time he says something she bristles He's trying to be funny. I mean she you saw that in that one video We talked about some time back when he was giving some speech or other and he said something. Yeah, she gives him a nasty look Stink eye exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what she does And now back to real news. I wrote down a couple of topics that I saw in the past four days John actually blacklisted news did this

CHAPTER 14 / 28 Discussion

Mainstream Media Headlines, CNBC Twitter Hoax

The segment critiques the trivial nature of mainstream news headlines from CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News. It highlights a specific incident where a teenager successfully hoaxed CNBC by tweeting a fake story about an escort service during the NBA lockout. The hosts use this to illustrate the lack of vetting and over-reliance on social media in modern journalism.

cnbc· twitter· hoax· nba lockout· mainstream media

1:03:37 Here's what was on CNN headlines. Is this baby doll really saying, bitch? Toddler accidentally served vodka. Elton John frets over Gaga. On MSNBC, Zimmerman stocks up on Cheetos in jail. Axl Rose robbed of $200,000 worth of jewelry. Taco Bell may take on Chipotle with cantina menu. And on Fox, custom car builder claims Hot Wheels stole his truck. Lighter side of tanning mom and nudist Expo bears all in naked tourist industry If that doesn't give you a reason to listen to the show, I don't know what does Actual topics on the actual so-called news channels is unbelievable yeah, well my favorite thing is this is the although this can happen to anybody and we've been hoaxed a couple of times and

1:04:33 But this guy I thought was very clever who did the, who hoaxed CNBC, the teenager with the fake escort service. I didn't read the article. I was like, move on. This is actually quite funny. The guy was, and what's funny about it is the reliance of all people, CNBC or any of these networks, to tweet a request for like, does anybody know of a story that might be about, essentially about during the NBA lockout, is there anybody in the NBA stories that tell this guy decides as a goof to tweet back? And so they buy a hook, line and sinker and it's over Twitter, unvetted, it's not even funny how far away from reality it is, and then it gets picked up by two or three other news services before the guy comes clean and says, that is bull crap, he's making the whole thing up, everything.

1:05:29 They're idiots and this Twitter. I mean it wasn't it's not as though It's email or anything that he made up the name on his Twitter name just before this he has no followers Yeah, no this dumb I mean I when I see something or once well I see something on Twitter And I guess it was this idiot I click and he's got no father some guy just created an account real fast So he could say something I always like the sexy girl that I You click on her link and it's like winning iPad. Damn, damn, she got me again. Oh yeah. That happens all the time.

1:06:06 It's like, hi! That winning an iPad is the worst scam and the worst part about it is, it's like you can never win the iPad, it's just like endless... Wait, you actually have tried to win the iPad? You've done... I do, no, I checked it out, I knew, I had an idea of where this was gonna go. And what it is, they put you in some sort of an endless loop of quizzes that are all market research. Right. Oh, right, right, right. So they ask you a million questions and they say, well that's good. Now you can win the iPad by answering these questions. And they put you on another ten screens of questions.

CHAPTER 15 / 28 Discussion

Abu Yahya al-Libi Death, Al-Qaeda Number Two Claims

U.S. forces killed Abu Yahya al-Libi in a drone strike in northwest Pakistan, with the Obama administration and major news outlets labeling him the "number two" leader of Al-Qaeda. However, an investigation into the State Department's "Rewards for Justice" website shows al-Libi was only valued at $1 million, significantly less than other top-tier terrorists. The hosts argue that the "number two" designation is a recurring propaganda tool used to inflate the significance of drone operations.

abu yahya al-libi· al-qaeda· drone strike· rewards for justice· pakistan

1:06:43 And then you can now win the iPad if you do one more thing and it just goes it never ends It's hours and hours of your time would be lost if you actually followed up well I was doing some actual research while you were clicking on the free iPad links An iPad so John did you hear we got number two again again again number twos are we gonna kill so so this was very interesting to me and Because, of course, I have three separate reports, actually two and a quote from Panetta. And we know the most compromised news source is, of course, ABC. And Diane Sawyer, she didn't seem hammered, by the way. It was a little disappointing. But I have to say,

1:07:28 Diane looks sexy. She's got like a new kind of open collar thing and it's kind of like like Catholic high school girl high collar, but then open down to her cleavage Very very very attractive and she's like in her I think she's 67 or something. She's 70. Yeah, she looks very very good She's had work done. You know what? My car has work done too. It's okay. Well, you got the same kind of idea there. Yeah, I So, but the memes in these reports, and I did the research, you know, it's an out and out lie, but let's listen to the memes. We begin with that breaking news of major terrorists taken out by US forces. Major terrorists. Second in command of Al Qaeda. Second in command? Have you ever heard of this guy? Ever? Have you ever heard the name? No one but Bin Laden as revered. No one but Bin Laden was as revered. Funny how we never knew the guy's name. And the terrorist group.

1:08:23 His name is Abu Alibi. By the way, Abu Alibi, if you pronounce that a little differently, it's Abu Alibi. That's how I read it. I like alibi. It's not alibi. Al-Libby is a common... It's actually a nickname it means from Libya. Oh, really? It doesn't surprise me. He operated in the shadows, but his power was felt around the globe. Power was felt around the globe! I mean, this is so important to listen to this psychological warfare. And here in the US, Al-Qaeda's forces would only strike after they had his blessing.

1:09:00 after they had his blessing, his blessing. What strikes did they do? Well, he did nothing. He did nothing. ABC's Martha Raddatz is here to tell us. Okay. Martha is hysterical by the way. She must, I mean, she's, her veins are popping out of her neck. She's going crazy. US finally tracked him down. Martha. Al-Libi was a huge player in Al-Qaeda, Diane. U.S. officials believe his death is so significant that we are now closer to the ultimate demise of Al-Qaeda's core than ever before. US intelligence have been tracking al-Libi for days just before dawn on Monday an armed drone circling his hideout in they actually show a picture of a drone shooting off a hellfire this is great northwest Pakistan

1:09:55 vizier astarn i might add fired several powerful missiles confirmation that those missiles hit their target yeah libya is dead now libya was number two number two iman al-zawahiri bin laden's longest and closest associate he is famous for escaping u.s custody of bagram airbase in afghanistan famous he's houdini thousand five He fled to Pakistan and within a year the charismatic Al Qaeda operative was releasing taunting videos. He's putting YouTube videos up. We must drone him. Give me his baseball card. Let me take a look. Yeah, let's get that guy. A leading voice in calling for attacks against the U.S. He's a podcaster. He's doing podcast videos. He's a leading voice. He was the gatekeeper to Zawahiri.

1:10:45 gatekeeper. And frankly if Ayman al-Zawahiri goes now, the central leadership in Pakistan is Probably as close to done as it's going to be. Stick a fork in him! This strike follows a string of US successes against Al Qaeda. Ah, let's rack them up. Here we go. Obama rocks! Osama Bin Laden in May of last year. Atiyah al-Rahman, head of Al Qaeda operations. Oh, maybe they got the CFO. In Yemen, American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. followed just last month by a drone strike on Fahd Al-Khuzo, charged in the bombing of the USS Cole. And now, Alibi. But Martha, tell me... Now here it comes. Tell me why they think Alibi is a permanent blow to al-Qaeda. Why don't they just recruit somebody else?

1:11:31 Well, not really it will be extremely difficult for the watery to replace our Libby with someone as experienced and trustworthy Number two. Hello. Hello. Give me human resources human resources You get to be number two Mohammed we need we need some candidates and call the human resources department now when so wahari has gotten to wonder whether he is next. So it's the setup because Al Zawahiri has got to wonder if he is next. This is the setup because we've got to make this guy number two. We've got to pump up Al Zawahiri. But here's the thing that really blew me away, that they messed it up. They only fixed it today. Luckily, I saved a copy, but it's still up there. If you type in alibi.curry.com, A-L-I-B-I.curry.com, are you doing it?

1:12:20 You will see the webpage on rewardsforjustice.net and here is the baseball card for Abu Yahya Al Libi. He's not even on the first three pages of this site. They only wanted 1 million bucks for him. This guy was no number two. You look at the right guy. This is the right guy. This isn't this is the wrong guy. This is the guy No, no, no. No, the other one is no. No, no, this is Abu Yaha. I'll leave me. This is the guy John's Alibi I think is no this is the guy I have the video. It's the same pictures This is the guy wrong, but he's another this other guy honest Alibi the Al Qaeda scout

1:13:05 who is six foot I think is the guy they're talking about. No John, no. Go back and play the name again when, go back to the beginning of the Dan Sawyer report and see what she calls him. We begin with that breaking news a major terrorist taken out by US forces. The second in command of Al Qaeda, no one but bin Laden as revered inside the terrorist group. His name is Abu Alibi, he operates. Abu Alibi, this is the guy. And if you look at the homepage for awards for justice, we have Havis Mohammed Saeed up to 10 million. We've got Hafiz Abdul Rahman Maki, he's even getting twice with 2 million. We've got Yasin Al Suri, 10 million. Abu Dua, 10 million. This guy was no number two. He only, there was only a million bucks. It's a lousy card to have. And this is the guy escaped from Bagram Air Force Base. This is the guy.

1:14:02 So it's total bullcrap. It's total bullcrap. He was not- if you're number two, then you've got to be between five and ten million on rewardsforjustice.net. This is bullcrap. It's total and utter bullcrap. Well, there must be another Abu El-Nabi. No, John, this is the guy. He was on the list but only one million dollars. They don't care about him. It was not some... This is a memo that went out. Oh, he was number two. Oh, please. Well, yeah, no, we know that's a bunch of bull crap. Listen to Charlie Rose. What's his name on another esteemed reporter? Bob Orr is in Washington with the latest on that story. Bob, what can you tell us? That's Gail Shepard by the way. I don't know why she's a journalist all of a sudden.

1:14:49 Good morning, Gail and Charlie. Well, I can tell you this is a big loss for Al-Qaeda. Big loss. Abu Yahya al-Libi. Abu Yahya al-Libi, that's the guy. You got the right guy. This is ludicrous now. Thank you. Was one of its last senior operatives, a key player at the very core of that embattled terror network. Q video. Abu Yahya al-Libyi was often the face of terror, appearing in more than 30 al-Qaeda videos, seeking radical recruits and urging new attacks against the West. More importantly, in recent months, al-Libyi served as top deputy to new al-Qaeda boss Ayman al-Zawahiri, overseeing plotting and relations with terror affiliates.

1:15:33 Inside Al Qaeda, al-Libi was a star. Revered for his 2005... He's the regular Lady Gaga. ...escape from a US military prison in Afghanistan. Now with his killing by a US drone, Al Qaeda has a serious hole in its top management. Oh no! Oh! There's another opening! It's the same talking points. In the past, significant people were killed or captured but there was somebody like Shark's Teeth coming in behind them. In this case, there's no bench, there's a few deck chairs and it's not clear who's going to fill them. I love the metaphors. There are numerous openings. John, what are we wasting our time on? There are numerous openings. They want a new podcaster.

1:16:16 You know, I'm looking at the Rewards for Justice homepage. You got one for Chairman, up to $25 million for Zawahiri. I mean, the top guy. Then you have 10 million. You got 1, 2, 3, 4 guys who are worth $10 million. Then a $7 million. Then the number of $5 million guys fills the page. Just what? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 1, 2, 3, there's 25, 30, 40 guys. You're making my point for me. It was not a number two guy. on the homepage. Even though the $500,000 car, her Meridos is on there. I think the guy was an intern. I think that he was, he may have been an operative, they were just extracting too, we don't know that. But I like this Rewards for Justice because it really does look like Obama's baseball cards. You know, it's got date of birth, place of birth, Libya. So that's your Libya thing. Complexion, medium, sex, male, nationality, Libyan, characteristics, black beard,

1:17:11 status fugitive in the thirteen months since bin laden was killed by u.s. navy seals more than a dozen other top al-qaeda terrorists have been killed by nearly one hundred u.s. airstrikes in pakistan and yemen among the dead american-born cleric anwar al-alaki who was behind recent bombing plots against u.s. aviation and a terrorist named Adia Abed Al-Rahman who was plotting attacks to mark the 10th anniversary of 9-11. But this week's killing of Al-Libi further strains relations with Pakistan which is demanding an end to US drone strikes. While the US will not stand down, Mudd says officials can't afford to ignore Pakistani concerns. So I think that on rewardsforjustice.net

CHAPTER 16 / 28 Discussion

Leon Panetta India Visit, Drone Sovereignty Defense

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, speaking in India, defended U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan as a matter of American sovereignty. He dismissed Pakistani complaints of territorial violations, citing the need to eliminate threats from those who attacked the U.S. on 9/11. The discussion also references reports of President Obama's personal involvement in selecting targets from a "kill list."

leon panetta· india· drone strikes· pakistan· sovereignty

1:17:58 They should put a big like red thing over him like you know, nailed him. The X. X, yeah like an X. Yeah, we should have something like that. So Panetta's in India. By the way, I wanted to mention he is a, Yaya is of course spelled differently everywhere you go. But he is listed on one of the other interesting sites that I like to look at called globalsecurity.org, which has a bunch of baseball cards essentially on it. Yeah. And what's his ranking there? He's listed as an Al Qaeda recruiter.

1:18:35 He works in HR. I'm telling you. Yeah, exactly. This is hardly the number two man. He's just a recruiter. But this is all done, obviously. Curiously, he came from the same Libyan Islamic fighting group which the other El Libby came from that I was mistaken for this guy. So the guy's a recruiter and we shoot a drone at him and he's blown to bits. And now he's number two. Yeah, and now he's number two. Here's Panetta, basically, it's 30 seconds, I'll translate it. More drones coming your way, bitches. That's the translation. Speaking in India, Panetta dismissed the Pakistani government's charge that it was a violation of its sovereignty. This is about our sovereignty as well.

1:19:25 because there were a group of individuals who attacked the United States on 9-11 and killed 3,000 of our citizens. We went to war against those who attacked the United States of America. Panetta also insisted the drone strikes have been effective at eliminating threats to Pakistan as well. Yeah, may you burn in hell, Panetta. You burn in like the way this is this isn't a violation of their sovereignty. It's a violation of our sovereignty Sovereignty, how do you because the guy's a recruiter? He's a an HR operative Number two. Well, I'm sorry They just they they they lose all credibility with this number two bullcrap by not having and this is the State Department's website

1:20:14 And we've established that. This is the State Department and their rewardsforjustice.net. We got the little State Department logo right on the page. And this guy was never in the number two. What do you think we are, stupid? This guy was never in the number two slot. Ever. And now, as of today, the State Department is going to be announcing a whole new bunch of guys from Yemen they're going to put on the list. And they've probably got someone whose job it is to print out these web pages and cut little baseball cards for the president. Because this is exactly what it is. These are the baseball cards. White House insider on Ulsterman, did that follow up that I mentioned on Sunday? Yeah. And this was all about the drone thing, remember, in the previous episode. And I believe this to be a true White House insider.

1:21:08 I'll quote verbatim, but now Barack Obama, he's judge and jury. With a pointing of a finger to names on a list, Barack Obama gets to play God. No day in court, no guarantee, innocent people won't be killed as well, and they've been killed, children, women, over and over again. And this president, he has the knowledge when he watches the kill confirmations, and he watches it over and over again. To him, these are high-tech snuff films, a multi-billion dollar snuff program, and he gets off on it. God, yeah, that's true. That's terrible. Well, apparently if you read the whole as a link to it in the show notes four and five that any show notes dot com people are freaked out about this and Jared is free even the true president Valerie Jared is freaked out because you know it's an obsession and he and he keeps watching it over and over and over again.

1:22:06 And we have producers in our audience whose job it is to retrieve pictures and video of drone strikes. And I know at least one of them, these are sysadmins, it's very disturbing. It's very, very disturbing to watch this. Because you basically, they've got the... I think you had not just a video on the drone, but also a video on the rocket. As it goes in. Remember those smart bomb videos? Yeah, you know it reminds me of that WikiLeaks video of the guys in the helicopter that were casually shooting people. Yeah. You know, oh you think he's got a gun? I don't know, take him out. Take him out anyway. Might take a chance. I'm very very sad. Very sad about that. Oh well. But at least you know we're on top of a... It's a hope and change. I was watching the State Department briefing

CHAPTER 17 / 28 Discussion

Pakistan Sesame Street Funding, USAID Corruption

USAID terminated a $20 million contract for "Sim Sim Hamara," the Pakistani version of Sesame Street, following allegations of corruption within the local theater company. The program was intended to educate children and promote Western values in Pakistan. The segment also touches on reports that Sesame Street music was used as a form of psychological torture on detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

sesame street· pakistan· usaid· sim sim hamara· corruption

1:23:04 And I guess Victoria Newland is off with Lucifer. Calipity Club, 102 or so toners back. I was going to play the State Department video when this question came up. Actually, I can play the beginning of it. Let me see. I'll play the beginning of it and then I'll play the NPR report because this was pretty underreported. My question is about the report of USAID cutting off funding for the Pakistani iteration of Sesame Street. Are we ready to move to Pakistan Sesame Street? I'm sorry Matt, I know you had number two. No, no, no. I apologize. It's fine. My question was, the conflicting, there was a sourced report in Pakistani media, it was a matter of corruption in the theater company that was producing it. The theater company itself alleged that the U.S. simply ran out of money for it.

1:23:55 My question is why, specifically, whether it was at all related to the report last week that Gitmo detainees were forced to listen to Sesame Street music in their ears. Okay, a couple of things here. Oh God. One, I did not know that the Gitmo detainees, and this is an ongoing trial, which is kind of hidden from view. There's a few reporters so-called on the scene, and they have to sit in a room and the audio is regularly cut off so they can't hear everything. But all these guys have translations on headphones, and apparently they started, which of course is a form of torture.

1:24:35 They started playing Sesame Street music on their headphones. I can't find anything about that. But oh, you can always bet our national treasure will do a report on Sesame Street in Pakistan. Sim Sim Hamara, the Pakistani version of Sesame Street is set in a mock-up of a typical Pakistani town. There's the school, the ubiquitous Spanian tree, a restaurant and a colorful cast of characters centered on a six-year-old girl named Rani who loves the sport of cricket. Only one of the original Sesame Street characters has been transplanted to the Pakistani version, Elmo. Welcome to Sim Sim Hamara. Elmo.

1:25:21 The highly produced Sim Sim Hamara began airing in Pakistan about six months ago with an aim to educate school-aged children. About one-third of Pakistani children can't or don't attend school. Now I have to ask you, why are we paying for Sesame Street to be produced and broadcast in Pakistan? Are we paying for this? Yes! I mean who's doing it? Did she say that? Yes USAID. Oh yeah there you have it. 20 million dollars for a five-year contract. Now I can, you could listen to the story but I'll just tell you what it is. So I would assume, before you go on, that there's some brainwashing mechanism here that would benefit the US of A. You think? I would hope.

1:26:11 They also produce a- There better be. They also produce a Lebanese version. Sesame Street is the psy- is the psyops program. Who knows what Elmo is saying? Elmo! We're brainwashing the children. This is why they cut it off. You know, someone over there, you know, one of the probably the new number two in Al Qaeda went, hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute. What's my kid watching here? These are Western values. Put a burqa on that Muppet. I find it. This is inconsiderable. We're brainwashing. I'm not agreeing with you on this. I think this is fine. You think it's good.

1:26:56 I don't think it's good. Who owns Sesame Street? Sorry? The children's television workshop. Yeah, and who owns that? It's a bunch of big corporate guys. Yeah, and so why is the U.S. government paying for this to be produced in Pakistan and Lebanon and God knows where else? Well, it's not as though we're now wasting money every time you turn around and that's why the economy's in the toilet. Let's see, let me take a look at the wiki here. Uh, Children's Te- Oh actually they've changed the name of Children's Television Workshop. Oh. I didn't know that. It's now known as Sesame Workshop. Oh boy oh boy, we going to have some fun on Sesame Street today. A worldwide American non-profit organization behind the production of several so-and-so.

1:27:50 Workshop was instrumental in the establishment of children's television. Yeah, bullcrap. Joan Ganz Cooney and Lloyd Morissette are the original founders. Originally founded by Carnegie Corporation or Carnegie as they say. Nonprofit Melvin Ming is the current head guy. It's on PBS. Well, anyway, if they're using this to brainwash Pakistani children, do you think there might be something in there for our own children? Oh yeah, they're brainwashing our kids too. I wouldn't let a kid watch this thing. Okay, thank you. Let's see, Sweden, Philippines, yeah, yeah, makes sense. Egypt, there we go. Jordan, yeah, well it's brainwashing. Nigeria, this is great. Pakistan, as we know, Sim Sim Humara, right?

1:28:52 Also in Afghanistan. All funded by the US government. Okay. Well, I just want you to know you may want to evaluate what your kids are watching. I wouldn't want my kids watching anything. Yeah, well, just brainwashing going on overseas is going on here too, because we know that. I just found it interesting. Okay. Alright, go on. Have a short clip by the way. I thought was kind of funny this guy mark toner at the State Department. Yeah, he's hilarious He never answers anything, but he's such a good spirited guy Short little clip in there where one of the reporters just you know just Snidely says this and he just takes it like duck water off the ducks back Welcome to the State Department

1:29:51 Matt? You got nothing? And then, empty vessel. More than you can handle? That was a setup clearly. I'll take it anytime. Did you record that with the microphone in your anal cavity or how did you? No, it sounded fine on this. I had to de-noise it because there's a noise buzz that's in the background. Your de-noising is not, that's not the way to go. You threw it out of phase. Well, I didn't mean, I don't know how that happened. There's no way that... Are all your clips like that? Just play one channel, it'll be fine. Anyway, he says I'm an empty vessel and the guy says more than usual and it was very funny. Yeah, it's an old clip. Yeah. Wow, great. Yeah, well I guess we won't be playing any of my clips if they all sound like that. Do they all sound like that, seriously? Sure, it doesn't sound like that here, I don't know what you're... Sounds fine. Yeah, well, please don't deno... Whenever you denoise stuff, it messes it up.

CHAPTER 18 / 28 Discussion

Ontario Anti-Bullying Bill, Gay-Straight Alliances

The Ontario legislature passed a controversial anti-bullying bill that mandates schools allow students to form "gay-straight alliances." The law, supported by Premier Dalton McGinty, faced opposition from Catholic school boards and church leaders. The hosts discuss the implications for freedom of speech and the potential for expulsion as a consequence of bullying.

ontario· anti-bullying· gay-straight alliances· dalton mcginty· canada

1:30:48 It was you wouldn't put up with it otherwise. Well, can you just record it? I got a ground loop on the system here somewhere in the audio that it creates just a buzz so I debuzzed it. Yeah, and well the debuzzing is not a good idea. That ruins it. Alright, something going on up there in the northern state of Gitmo, Canada. New laws passed. Ontario's legislature passed the McGinty government's controversial anti-bullying bill today. That discrimination against children on the basis of whatever, including their sexual orientation. The basis of whatever. Yeah, the basis of whatever, including their sexual orientation. So you can't say, hey,

1:31:36 You got a big nose, get out of my way. That apparently is now bullying and against the law in Toronto. ...of whatever, including their sexual orientation, is no longer acceptable. The law applies to all publicly funded schools and requires them to let students call anti-homophobia clubs gay-straight alliances if they want to. Many Catholic school boards and church leaders oppose this aspect of the bill. So I'm not quite sure what the you know they're bringing up this point of using the word gay straight alliances. As an anti homophobia or what is what was that I didn't understand what she's talking about. Neither did I. What's the gay straight alliance all about? So you can set up a support group and you can call it a gay straight alliance.

1:32:27 And that and church groups have an issue with the with using the word Well, here's the clients gay using the word gay which by the way in New York State calling someone gay can no longer be deemed defamatory you saw the lawsuit about that Yeah, I did. Yeah, so you can say hey, don't be don't be gay. Hey, don't be so gay and someone cannot sue you anymore Here's the plan in 13 seconds. Here's a look at McGinty's anti-bullying plan. He wants there to be tougher consequences including expulsion so instead of just being Kicked out of school for a week. They can kick you out of school for good. Okay, that'll that'll be helpful support programs for victims support programs Okay, rehabilitation programs for bullies That's gonna be fun and schools must support activities promoting understanding to all hold hands and understand Mazda dome This is of course

1:33:32 Once again sneaking up on cutting off your... Do they have a First Amendment right in Canada? No, they don't have a First Amendment. I understand. Do they have something equal to it? Something like it? Not really. Okay, well then every country gets the government it deserves. As will we. They have... Right. They have laws that protect freedom of speech but it's not the same. It's not... the absolutist type of thing we have in the constitution. Well, it doesn't matter because we have, and it gets cut off every so often. Yeah. We got anti-bullying laws here as well. So it's just what it is. My favorite topic. You have something, let's try one of your, one of your other clips to see if they suck. No, they're all going to suck if that one came out like that. Cause they're all been denoised the same way. Let me try, uh, see what have we got here. Uh, sent mail. Hold on. Let me get the list.

CHAPTER 19 / 28 Discussion

Congressional Budget Hearing, Pentagon Waste

During a House Budget Committee hearing, Chairman Paul Ryan and CBO Director Doug Elmendorf discussed the long-term fiscal challenges facing the U.S. The hosts criticize the hearing for focusing on entitlement spending while ignoring the massive, unaudited military budget. A 2001 clip of Donald Rumsfeld admitting to $2.3 trillion in missing Pentagon funds is revisited to highlight systemic waste.

paul ryan· doug elmendorf· pentagon· budget deficit· donald rumsfeld

1:34:30 I had to bring it back. I keep sending these on Google now. Welcome to the State Department. Bloomberg at UNC is not funny. This is interesting. Play the budget clip. Okay, here we go. This should be interesting. The hearing will come to order. The committee will come to order. Welcome everybody to the Budget Committee. The purpose of this hearing is to review the long-term budget outlook which CBO just recently released and unpack the fiscal and economic damage and challenges facing our nation. We're joined today by no stranger to this committee, Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office. I want to thank you for testifying again today, Doug, and for the work your team has done in putting together this report. The report is sobering, and the warnings are dire. You write in the report, quote, growing debt would increase the probability of a sudden fiscal crisis during which investors would lose confidence in the government's ability to manage its budget

1:35:29 and the government would thereby lose its ability to borrow at affordable rates." What's causing this growing debt? Government spending is on a breakneck pace. By 2025, according to this report, health spending including Medicare and Medicaid, Social Security, and interest on the debt will consume 100% of revenues. Tax revenues that continue to increase each and every year. The problem of course is unsustainable increases in government spending. Our entitlement programs, in particular government spending on health care, are the core drivers of the debt. The report makes clear the health... He goes on, this is Ryan, he goes on and on and on like this and he never once, he says, you know, we're broke, we're... spending is out of control, and never once mentions the military budget.

1:36:19 Well no, why would you? And the military budget which nobody will even audit. They want to audit the Fed? They're gonna audit, I think the, what did we see in the documents, they said 2019 they'll be ready for the audit? For the military, depending on audit. Yeah, Pentagon. 2018 or 19. They want to audit the Fed but this is laughable, they're just sending in their money and they don't even account for any of it. This is almost a bitch about the economy. I mean it's unbelievable to me that they wouldn't see but can't do that Gotta protect our borders anyway. I just found it annoying to listen to this guy. This is I should make this an evergreen clip this is About the time you got to play the old rumsfeld clip from one day before 9-11. This is the 10th of September 2001 here we go see I think it's in this I pulling this from YouTube. I don't have these in let me see I

1:37:15 Where he talks about the Pentagon. Come on. "...money wasted by the military poses a serious threat." In fact, it could be said that it's a matter of life and death. "...Rumsfeld promised change, but the next day, the world changed." And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten. My 03 budget. Wait, what? "...Donald Rumsfeld declared war, not on foreign terrorists." The adversary is closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat. I gotta pull that clip. Anyway, he says 2.3 trillion dollars is missing from the Pentagon. And he said that on September 10th, 2011. Yeah. That was quite a couple of years ago. Coincidence? I think not! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

1:38:13 You know it's funny how the military you know extolled how great it is all these soldiers they do all this hard work for us and then once they get out they get screwed they get kicked out of their benefits from the VA. And this has been a history of this country since the Civil War where they have people done pensions they pull the pension. Or somebody was in the news the other day who had the government would only give them 49% of their pension because if they gave them 50% then their wife would get death benefits and screw that. I just find it abhorrent. And we want to congratulate producer Harry Pilgrim on his retirement.

CHAPTER 20 / 28 Discussion

Listener Donations, Afghanistan Security Concerns

The hosts read letters from donors, including an anonymous contributor whose wife is a flight nurse in the Air Force. The letter describes deteriorating security at bases in Afghanistan due to suicide bombers infiltrating through local security forces. Other donors from Brooklyn, Nashville, and Scotland are acknowledged for their contributions to the "value for value" model.

afghanistan· air force· suicide bombers· value for value· donations

1:39:00 He's retiring from, I believe he's Marines, I believe. Well, hopefully he won't get screwed. I want to start off with a, I went to the Twitch show and Chad Spacey from Santa Clara gave the show $100. Oh, that's very kind. On the spot donation. On the spot donation. It's a big deal. He gets top of the billing. Anonymous, $100 for my wife's protection. Keep my name and location for this donation anonymous. Just trying to do his part to support the best podcasting universe, I'd like to request some karma for his wife who is serving as a flight nurse in the Air Force. The information I've received from her things are not as stable as the news might say. Really? Her base and neighboring bases are attacked regularly. And now that the bases are open to Afghanistan security forces, suicide bombers are entering the base and killing soldiers and civilians with relative ease.

1:39:54 keep assassinating the media for her and all the service men and women. Yes, we definitely would like to give this karma to them. You've got karma. Thank you. Thank you, Anonymous. Ryan Reich in Brooklyn, New York, $100. You know what's going to happen? One day we're going to get the knock on the door and here's the headline. Anonymous supported radical podcast. Yeah, that's a good one. 100 bucks. Hi John and Adam, thanks for the job karma in March after I donated but before the show aired I had my interview and was offered a freelance gig on the spot. Alright. After a couple of weeks they offered me a full-time position as promised here's some money out of my first real paycheck. Can I ask for some NYC karma? See something say something. So he wants see something say something NYC karma for his girlfriend. Thanks again. See something. Say something. You've got karma.

1:40:49 Nahal Saeed in Nashville, Tennessee, $100. Joseph Tirio in Woodstock, Illinois, $99.99. Monarch Senior Care giving a hearty AITM from Gitmo Nation, wood turkey. donating painfully sober sad to say that 99.99 is actually 3 times 33.33 for extra mystic power. Oh yeah. Please just send a karma shot to Monarch Senior Care as we were just getting by taking care of the seniors and vets in Northern Illinois. And how about a shout out for my smoking hot wife Karen. Keep up the good work my friends. Read The Hunger Games and Shock Doctrine not necessarily in that order. So he needs um... Karma.

1:41:30 And then a MILF. Oh, really? You've got karma. MILF. That's one mother I'd like to f***. Sir A-Astrum in, uh, Vendel, Na-Vosturbottom. Hey dudes, the slide whi- whistle kicks ass. It's duet form is even better. He's 77-77. Vote for the slide whistle. Said he'd not bring with me. Oh. Alan Cleland in Dundee Angus. 72-27. Wait a minute. You're doing a show without your prep without your your tools your tools. I have the tools I have up here. I have separate tools. Do you have a clippity-clop tool? No, I'm not I can't get through through what I need. Here's what you need. No. No, I can't Security listen, listen, let me be clear. You need a flight case.

1:42:28 which has foam inside and in that there's a cutout. A cutout for the two coconut halves, a cutout for the slide whistle, a cutout for the train whistle, a cutout for the bell. You need a little traveling flight case my friend. Alan Cleland in Dundee, 7227. The E in my surname is pronounced like egg not eel. Cleland, yeah. Hello from Gipmo Nation, Wild Haggis. It's a warm sunny day up here in Scotland while the Queen's Jubilee is a washout. Maybe they targeted the weather machine a little too far. Did you hear about the Queen's Jubilee, what they did to the workers, how they screwed them over? No.

1:43:12 They apparently told them they could all get a gig working for free, they had to work for free like all unpaid interns to help out on this thing. They hired thousands of them and then they gave them a bag lunch and they told them they had to eat the next day. They gave them no, it started raining on them, they had no place to put them so they put them under an overpass. And then they said you guys can quit and go home if you want to but then but if you do you will be it'll be duly noted on your record and you may not get a job at the Olympics and you may lose your social security. No service for you! Did you hear about any of this? It's unbelievable. No. All I heard was Pierce Moron and Brooke on CNN going, it's amazing. Look at that. Oh, look at it. It's beautiful. Oh, it's amazing. And Pierce kept going on and on. Oh, the Royal Air Force flyby, the flyby, the flyby. Lancaster on some Spitfires, a flyby. I've met the Queen. He's a reptile.

1:44:12 Anyway, I realized I get 50% of my news from Noah Jenner and the rest from zero hedge.com. Yeah, they're pretty good. So I decided I should stop being a douchebag and donate for the first time in 2012. This donation is the same amount as I pay Richard Branson's Virgin Media each month for the privilege of being lied to by the BBC, CNN and Fox. I'd like to call my brother out as a douchebag. He knows who he is. He moved to the big city and got himself a shiny new job but has yet to donate to no agenda despite listening for years. Oh man, thank you. Well that's a very good point and of course you don't only just pay that amount to Richard Branson but you also have to pay your license.

CHAPTER 21 / 28 Discussion

Global Listener Reports, Birthday Shout-outs

Donors from Italy, Sweden, and Saudi Arabia provide local reports on economic conditions and personal milestones. The segment includes a birthday celebration for a young listener named Ava and a discussion about the high cost of television licenses in the UK. The hosts continue to distribute "karma" and "de-douching" to contributors.

italy· sweden· saudi arabia· birthday· karma

1:44:53 for the BBC, you have a license fee which you have to pay, which I think is hefty, isn't it? Like, two, three hundred pounds now a year, I think. Yeah, I thought it was two fifty. I don't know what it is. I'll check it. But it's not cheap. Matt Milligan in Sparks, Nevada, 6969, keeping the streak alive. Hey there, John and Adam, thanks for outstanding insight and entertainment. Funds are getting tight over here with the new human resource expecting to show up for work on October 9th. and my smoking hot milk to take a few months off to get the little guy up and running. I'll do my best to stop buying the 16 ounce full sugar drinks and save some money going to the more economically sound 64 ounce at the corner store.

1:45:32 Screw Bloomberg and the slaves that cower to him. Can I get a little girl auditioning saying shut up slave? So I can get my three-year-old daughter to get the idea of what the competition is like Also, can I have a shout of karma for my growing family low and last thing my wife is driving to work today I saw a slow flying small windowless military gray plane over the highway we drive she immediately yelled drone You want to take a picture but the cop behind her and the new anti-phone use while driving will scare her from doing so. The ministry of truth is on to us. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be very very careful. Good morning. Wait, that's not the one. Adios. That's not the one. I don't know where the kid is with shut up so I'll give the karma first. You've got karma. I have it here somewhere but it must be mislabeled.

1:46:36 Shut up slave. I don't know can't find it. Sorry. We'll say we'll try to find by the end I will find it yeah, wicked slave in Tampa, Florida 69 69 keeping the 69 69 meme going it's been about four or five months now Hey, John and Adam in the morning giving you some value for value after three years of listening and being a douchebag. Yeah, oh Could I get de-douched and karma? Also, I'd like to call out Florida listeners, all Florida listeners as douchebags. Well, not all of them. No, that's true. Not all of them. The ones that donate are not douchebags. You've been de-douched. You've got karma.

1:47:18 Free Karma. Steve Bottoms, Reno, Nevada. Another Nevada in for $69.69. That's pretty funny. Doing his part to keep the streak alive. Alex Iaconi. in Pisa, Italy. But the hope is still there and at least we can enjoy a nice podcast while the boat's sinking. I'm actually poor even for Italians by Italian standards. I have nothing to cut, no movies, no cable TV or other BS so I decided to cut the money for my wife's birthday gift in order to donate.

1:48:06 5555. Oh, thank you. Oh She is French and hot Photos in the mail. I never saw these photos sent you photos in the mail asked for international wire info Her name is Estelle and I request a milf karma for her quest to a better job Please mention Estelle and egg gustino son 10 this year for their birthdays. All right send pictures That's one You've got karma. Why do you think? The hotel lobby got up in everybody's face about, hey people are staying in other people's houses instead of spending time in the hotel. Oh, so they're gonna make that illegal? Yes. You think that'll actually get that through? Yes. And under what law will they make that illegal? You need a permit to rent out rooms.

1:49:11 145 pounds 50 for color television license. No, it's not bad What for to be lied to? To be slighted. So anyway, he's got a place in Tuscany, which is cool and his sister and split Croatia which is actually cool to get more nation hide that All for No Agenda listeners at 20% off and nights 33% off. His profile number on Airbnb is, take this down, if you're going to Tuscany, 161-2441. That's 161-2441. And we'll send 33 of the fare of the fee to No Agenda. That's pretty cool. That's very cool. And it would be, you know, those are good places. Split is cool and so is Tuscany.

1:50:00 Sir Carl Baron from Malmo, Sweden, Fit the Dibble, and it goes on the dime, asking for some get well karma as I've had this virus from hell. That's funny, this virus has been all over the place. I think my wife had it. After I think I've just recovered, I realized it started when I didn't have donated for a while. Maybe that's it. This might help heal me. Yes. Greetings from just outside Athens. Sir Carl Baron. You've got karma. Send us a report man, send us a report on what's going on. We want reports, please. We want to know what's really happening. We need arms boots on the ground. Henry Selma Ross in Hendersonville, North Carolina, 5333 finally leaving Saudi Arabia. We need a report from you too. So I figured I'd also photos. I would donate 5333 which is 200 Saudi Reals.

1:50:46 Sorry about all the threes, but that is the way it works out. The change rate is fixed and never changes. Mr. Curry should look into that. I need a de-douching and a shot at karma for my upcoming trip back to the States. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Expect to be held up. Todd Montgomery in Morgantown, West Virginia. Your favorite town, Motown. 5225, well listen, show 14, I grabbed a fortune cookie as a snack, it said, small donation is called for. It's the right thing to do. There you go. Well, that's karma talking at you. Gotta find this cookie maker. Good job, John, inserting those 10,000 fortunes.

1:51:30 Shannon Adkins and Warren Michigan 50-50 is my third and fourth just getting by contribution to the only show I can honestly say I look forward to listening to twice a week. Sean Pyle's Streamwood Illinois $50.09 that's a vote against the side whistle. Really need some new job karma being an IT slave is killing me what would really kick ass is if John came galloping along with his sword drawn and sprinkled karma as he passed by I know he's His sweaty hands are itching to bust out his coconuts. Also, there's hoping for a dramatic increase in slide whistle failures along with the flooding in the Thai slide whistle district causing them to become ridiculously unaffordable. Screw the slide whistle. I'm sure you have a lot more anti-whistle donations if you weren't making us pay more for our vote.

1:52:18 Yeah, two cents. It's rigged, I tell you. It's rigged. Here's Job Karma for you. You've got karma. That's funny. It's rigged. And balancing off the 0.9 is $50.07 from Scott Arnato in Davie, Florida. Request for karma from my mom, Sharon, who is with my help. Well, who with my help cares for my dad who had two strokes in the last year I had to quit my job in North Carolina to move home to help her out. Yeah, moms are pretty awesome. They do really do a lot. You've got karma. Daniel Toriello, Torellio, Torellio in Charleston, one of the prettiest towns in the world, South Carolina, $50.05.

1:53:05 Please distribute three quarters of the money to Jean-Claude. Why? Because he has to deal with Adam. He makes Twit better and just started listening to DH Unplugged. Please give my roommate Michael Ryan, Classy Mike, a congratulatory douchebag. Douchebag! Getting into school and burning out my backlight on my HDTV. My personal grudges. Thanks for the best podcast in the universe. Well, there you go. That's not very nice. Well, no. Why don't I just, you know what we should do? We'll just, I'll do, I'll record it on two channels and you can just turn my channel off and just listen to John. Can you imagine? Back and forth. Well, you know, I did a DH unplugged once in stereo. That's no, it's no good. It's no good. Sucks. Well, this is in stereo. It says I have the mic centered. We're not going to do it off center. You can't go back and forth. I've actually had people suggest it too, which I was thinking, wow. Yeah.

1:54:05 Okay, you're like right. Yeah, if you when steroids first came out in the mid 50s everyone was there we go. Hey, how cool is that? I'm over here on its I'm over here on the left and you're on the right John. Come on do it. Hello there Hello over on the right. I'm over here Peter Lutcraft in Masclatt MIDI in France $50 must be drunk again. Best be jack again. Good luck to you both plus a bit of karma for our new president. He'll need it Yeah, you've got karma Our resident actress Tanya Foster's in San Francisco gave us $50 for show 1415 birthday shout-out for our precious human resource Ava or Ava Ava who was born on 415 this might be a new way to get people to donate more money a birthday shout out on their real birthday and also on the episode that corresponds to their birthday my husband thought of this and therefore gets all the props we will definitely put

1:55:04 Ava. Is it Ava or Ava? I think it's Ava. I think it's Ava. Well, she's in the chat room, I'm sure. Is it Ava or Ava? She'll let us know. Jeffrey Molnar in Omaha, Nebraska, 50 bucks. The goose hung high in Framingham, Massachusetts. Nuts, 50 bucks. Adam Colby, Sir Adam Colby, to you in Menasha, Wisconsin, $50 from him. And Philip Meason in Welshpool, Pows. UK $50 and then I want to thank them and all the other donors for show 415 to keep the show alive and we hope that if you want to sneak in to get a cheap executive producership for your bio I'm absolutely sure on Sunday you can do it we need to pick up our numbers a little bit for so let me say that let me say this about that

CHAPTER 22 / 28 Discussion

Summer Funding Slump, Value for Value Model

Adam Curry expresses concern over a significant drop in donations during the summer months and suggests a potential hiatus in July if support does not increase. He emphasizes that the show relies entirely on the 2% of the audience that contributes financially. The hosts discuss the importance of the show to commuters and the need for new donors to sustain the production.

podcast funding· summer hiatus· value for value· donations· listener support

1:55:55 So Sunday was abysmal today. We know the summer months are always going to be low, so this is lower than normal. Remember, this is all we do, right? So we this is at least the John writes some columns and he does some other charity work like that Twitch show. But you like that exact. But in order to keep us going, we do have to also live the American dream of just getting by. And what I'm seeing on the list is the donations are coming from existing donors. Yes, people who haven't donated in a while. I see a lot of Knights who are always there to support us. And of course that is their job. They need to propagate the formula. It's part of what you do as a No Agenda Knight. But we need to see new people. Now, we know that no more than 2% of the audience is supporting the program. If, you know, I mean, we're coming into the summer months. If Sunday is really another down day, then John, I would just suggest we take July off.

1:56:56 I mean, I can get, I can do other things. July was terrible last year. I know. And that's where we're headed. So if we don't get the new people, if I don't see 10 new people on the list, I'm going to suggest that we can have a meeting about it. I'm going to suggest why don't we just take July off? We'll come back in August. It won't make any difference. You know, there's other things I can do. You know, I can do more auditions. Uh, I'm sure I could be on Twitter. Well, that'd be charity because the tweet doesn't pay, but I'm, Or, you know, I'll just... It won't make any difference. It just won't make any difference. Well, my only... I mean, I have my wedding coming up in the last newsletter. Well, you might want to take that day off. But I mentioned in the last newsletter that we do have people that are dependent on hearing this show twice a week. I mean, they are on commutes. They got to drive and drive and drive. And there's no real substitute for this show. This is the interesting thing. I saw a... Everyone's analyzing Facebook. By the way, it looks like my $17 a share is going to come true before I even thought it would come true.

1:57:58 And the report about mobile usage and about radio and television was a really big report I have to find out what the where I Stored it somewhere. I'll see if I can put it in the show notes and the one thing it said is that American commuters, but I think this is worldwide are woefully underserved With media in their automobiles. I'm thinking well people listen to no agenda are not woefully underserved You know, I think that they may still be underserved but not woefully. There's a couple other podcasts out there that are certainly worth listening to. And you know, if and this is where I think most of our audience is. No, they're in the car. They're in the car. And five hours, this is the five hours of the show. There are people that listen to the show that aren't commuters and they are always behind because it's easier if you're driving for 45 minutes to work or half an hour, it's perfect because then you get your whole five hours in.

1:58:57 because an hour in and an hour back and that's five days a week, that's five hours, that's our show. So which is a common commute time is you know 25 to 35 minutes is not unusual. But I'll tell you so we're leaving on I think the 9th and we have a so we arrive on the 10th which is a Wednesday I think and then I'm going to be prepping you know jet lag to be prepping then we have No, that's a Tuesday. But I'll still be jet lagged prepping on Wednesday. Then we have the show on Thursday. Then we have our bachelor party on Friday. And then, you know, so then we kind of recuperate on Saturday, I guess, you know, it's going to be a big party. And then I got to prep and then on Sunday I do another show and then on Monday is the wedding. I don't feel like doing that if we don't have boners out there becoming donors. And this is not about

1:59:49 the amount of money. This is about the principle question. You know, just the principle of the value for value model that there are a lot of people out there who are being served by us in the car and they're not stepping up. I just need to see some new names on this list because that's what troubles me most. Is it's the, you know, it's the same people. There are people who have donated thousands of dollars over the course of their listenership in five years. That's a lot of money, but other people are just boning around. And I'm really serious about my suggestion. I was like, why don't we just take July off? I can do, I have, you know, I got a wedding. Let me see. Oh yeah. You know, it's not a minor deal and I have two shows planned. I'm sure they'll come through for this Sunday. I mean, it's just essentially, these Sundays are going to be miserable.

2:00:40 Alright, I think your points well taken at least garling who was a $33.33 a month donor says hey Adam I've been listening since apes on iPads. I'm fully hooked I propagate the formula constantly and have successfully converted a few however not my husband he hates you I think there's still hope. I've been away so I just listened to the last few shows in a row and just joined the super lucky club. The shows are great for long flights and focusing on your show recently helped me from passing out. Literally, my flight anxiety is getting worse with every trip. Anyhow, as I sell my jewelry, the more I'll donate, but in the meantime, $33.33 a month is better than nothing.

2:01:22 And you can find her at EliseGarling.com, Elise Garling's jewelry. Actually not bad, her jewelry looks pretty good. Take a look. Yeah, it's kind of nice stuff. And while you're taking a look, I will tell everyone where they can support this value for value program. It's your birthday, birthday, ay, ay, ay, on NO Agenda! And we congratulate Derek Johnson's girlfriend Stacy celebrating today and Tonya Foster's daughter Ava, born on 4-15, which corresponds of course with episode 415. And we are so happy for you and for your hubby. Happy birthday from all you buddies here at the NO Agenda show! It's your birthday, yeah!

CHAPTER 23 / 28 Discussion

Haiti Mining Permits, Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund

Reports indicate that U.S. and Canadian corporations have secured permits to mine up to $20 billion worth of gold and minerals in northern Haiti. Newmont Mining Corporation, which received permits, had previously donated $1 million to the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund. The hosts argue that the earthquake relief efforts served as a front for securing lucrative mining rights for foreign investors while the local population suffers from cholera.

haiti· gold mining· clinton-bush haiti fund· newmont mining· bill clinton

2:02:10 It's my favorite country in the world and I always like to see what's going on since we had the big concert and everyone put hands together and we circled the globe and we all raised billions of dollars for Haiti. Oh, it was so beautiful. And of course... You could even punch a couple of numbers into your phone and ten bucks would go there. That's right, that's right. And I'm sorry, it didn't just go to Haiti. It went to the Bush Clinton Foundation before it went to the Clinton for Haiti Foundation. And here's how... Remember they came on television with President Barack Obama. We had two former presidents, George W. Bush and Clinton, and what did they say?

2:02:50 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. That's right. Just send your cash. And boy, did we billions of dollars, which has not shown up. No one can account for it. It's mysteriously gone. Countries haven't come come through on their commitments. And of course did we call that immediately? Immediately. Immediately. Because we've seen this same scam with all these different you know events, these rock concerts and they put the, remember the television show they put all the, all of them, they were scaring it. Yeah, George Clooney produced it, yeah it was huge, it was, everyone, oh, but everyone felt really good after that. And we got, we got,

2:03:26 Crap from people for pointing out that this was a scam. Well. Here's the biggest part of the scam I did watch some democracy now this past week years of rumors that mining companies were exploring in Haiti Canadian US corporations now confirmed they have permits to mine as much as one-third of the land in the northern part of the country Haiti's new prime minister says the estimated 20 billion dollars worth of minerals and Haiti's hills. Let me just repeat that billion dollars worth of minerals and gold in the hills of northern Haiti could help liberate it from dependency on foreign aid and rebuild from the devastating 2010 earthquake but many worry the mines will be a boom for foreign investors and a bust for local communities you think more we're joined by Jane Regan lead author of gold rush in Haiti who will get rich the report by Haiti grassroots watch was published Wednesday in the Guardian and also on Haiti Liberté

2:04:17 The investigation was made possible in part by a grant from the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting. We invited representatives from the two mining companies featured in the report, but both Eurasian Minerals and Newmont Mining Corporation declined our request. Jane Regan, welcome to DeMont. Eurasian Minerals is they're basically a tool maker. So the real company there is Newmont Mining Corporation. Oh, that's good news. Yes. Well, and I was perusing through their website because, of course, you know, they didn't discuss this on Democracy Now! I don't understand why they don't do a little bit of Googling. Newmont.com November Echo Whiskey Mike Oscar November Tango.

2:04:58 And so, a nice little article here on Haiti's road to hope. And, oh gee, what do I see here? Newmont supported Haiti during the last six months by providing a $1 million cash contribution to the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund to support critical relief efforts following the earthquake. Shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. That's right. So that's how it works. You donate a million dollars to the Bush-Clinton cabal and then all of a sudden you get mining rights for 20 billion dollars. And what do the people of Haiti get? Cholera. Oh, that's so nice. Cholera. Here, why don't you poop your guts out, little stupid slave.

2:05:43 It's disgusting to me. From the UN. From the UN. This is so disgusting. No one, I mean, yeah, this report on democracy now, whatever. But they didn't actually call out the real connection, which is so disappointing. They just say evil people, evil white people. Yeah, got it. But you got to make the connection between who really did this. This was Clinton and Bush with their bonanza. We got the Red Cross building a hotel. A hotel and a conference center. Yeah, and meanwhile people are pooping. Sad. Just sad. Very very sad. That is a pathetic story. I'll save that one for a little bit later. So the the campaign kind of continues this uh now I got a whole bunch of clips and you know it's kind of like a reality show in a way where you know if you if you can collect enough of the bullcrap you can kind of build a story out of it. Now I haven't really done that per se

CHAPTER 24 / 28 Discussion

David Sanger Book, White House Intelligence Leaks

New York Times journalist David Sanger released a book detailing the Obama administration's covert cyberwarfare against Iran, known as "Olympic Games" or Stuxnet. Senator Dianne Feinstein criticized the leaks, stating they compromise national security and put American lives at risk. The discussion suggests the leaks may be part of a deliberate strategy to portray the president as a decisive commander-in-chief.

david sanger· stuxnet· dianne feinstein· new york times· intelligence leaks

2:06:51 But we're seeing as a part of the elites, I think making the decision that Mitt Romney should be the next puppet as the leader of Gitmo Nation, that they're trying to discredit the president. And so, you know, we had these reports come out in the New York Times and first about the drone program, making Obama look like a crazed lunatic with his baseball cards, which I think I think the administration thought that was going to be good, which is why I think they're trying to push this. We got the number two guy, whatever, you know, to make it sound like these baseball cards are worth something. Unfortunately, they forgot to reshuffle the deck and put the number two guy in the number two spot as we've just deconstructed for you. But the guy who reported this was David E. Sanger.

2:07:46 Who is, I might add, according to the Book of Knowledge, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. So, how much for this, you know, so much for your independent journalist over there at the New York Times. What I didn't realize... that he's today releasing a book and all this information that was in the New York Times was actually an excerpt from his book. Did you realize this? No, that's funny. Yeah, that's the way it's done nowadays. So his name is David E. Sanger and I got a couple of clips about this because we have the left-leaning media

2:08:23 Not happy with what they are discovering about President Obama and his obsession with the drones and the covert war and really the leaks and you'll see even Democratic government officials coming out saying this is not okay so there is a war against Obama here this is the first sanger well Andrea I was trying to be very careful in the course of what I did obviously the Iranians knew a lot and learned a lot after the US and Israel made a major mistake and the mistake became known as Stuxnet it was when the worm the computer worm that was put into the Natanz plant

2:09:00 got out by accident. There was a programming error and it went out through the laptop of an Iranian engineer and he connected to the internet, it got out to the world. That's what caused the leak. And what I did was then pull on the string of Stuxnet to see what was connected. What is this? Like an intelligence tampon? I don't understand the pull on the string. And discovered a much wider program which was called Olympic Games. But what I try to be very careful about this, as we do with the New York Times, as you do at NBC, and that is I said from the beginning we would publish information that the Iranians had already figured out and they knew they had been attacked and they suspected where they were attacked from.

2:09:45 As I say at the end of the book, I withheld some details about current and future operations, and I was very careful not to publish enough detail about How the worm got in that it would preclude that issue as well. Okay, so he is basically saying that he has a lot more information that he did not disclose in his book Nor in his New York Times article which is an excerpt from his book, so there's a lot of information being leaked to journalists, so we have Obama's nemesis, who is a Democrat, Feinstein from California. Now she leads the House Intelligence Committee or is it? Yeah, she's House Intelligence. Right. So she actually was the one before the president announced to the world that we had captured, I mean killed bin Laden, which everyone keeps messing up by the way. I keep hearing more people say captured and killed.

2:10:45 She actually popped that like an hour and a half before the president did at some kind of fundraiser. It was a eulogy for the guy who had gotten killed. Not Bin Laden, but the Democratic operative. So here is Feinstein with the blitzer in the Situation Room. We have an enormously smart constituency of journalists. Wait a minute, you're telling me that the journalists are really smart? Who follow this, who piece things together, who get one little piece somewhere and a second little piece another place and a third and a fourth and put it all together.

2:11:29 And this is what we've got to now begin to pay some attention to because it's going to result in the inability of the United States to be able to have an intelligence profile, an intelligence apparatus that's able to protect this country. And she goes on and she says American lives are at risk as a result of all of these leaks. Now you have a new book that's out with a lot of sensitive information in there. What do you say when you hear... This is another guy with a book. It's incredible. These complaints.

2:12:04 Well, I think Senator Dianne Feinstein, for whom I have a great deal of admiration, I think just described very accurately what journalists do, which is to piece... Which is basically take leaks... Feinstein! Yeah. Take leaks from the White House. So then we have MSNBC, without a doubt a very left-leaning organization, and... Chris Hayes. I'm not saying they say it. Oh, I'm sorry. MSNBC. Yeah, totally. So Chris Hayes is the host and he has Jeremy Scahill on who is a either a journalist or maybe the editor of The Nation. And I believe The Nation is also a left leaning. No, it's beyond that. It's progressive to the nth. Did you hear what Jeremy Scahill was saying about the president?

CHAPTER 25 / 28 Discussion

Jeremy Scahill, Obama Drone Policy Criticism

Investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill appeared on MSNBC to label President Obama's drone policy in Yemen as "mass murder." Scahill cited a specific strike in Al-Majalah that killed 21 women and 14 children, which the U.S. initially attempted to cover up. The segment highlights growing disillusionment among the political left regarding the administration's expansion of Bush-era military programs.

jeremy scahill· drone strikes· yemen· msnbc· mass murder

2:11:29 And this is what we've got to now begin to pay some attention to because it's going to result in the inability of the United States to be able to have an intelligence profile, an intelligence apparatus that's able to protect this country. And she goes on and she says American lives are at risk as a result of all of these leaks. Now you have a new book that's out with a lot of sensitive information in there. What do you say when you hear... This is another guy with a book. It's incredible. These complaints.

2:12:04 Well, I think Senator Dianne Feinstein, for whom I have a great deal of admiration, I think just described very accurately what journalists do, which is to piece... Which is basically take leaks... Feinstein! Yeah. Take leaks from the White House. So then we have MSNBC, without a doubt a very left-leaning organization, and... Chris Hayes. I'm not saying they say it. Oh, I'm sorry. MSNBC. Yeah, totally. So Chris Hayes is the host and he has Jeremy Scahill on who is a either a journalist or maybe the editor of The Nation. And I believe The Nation is also a left leaning. No, it's beyond that. It's progressive to the nth. Did you hear what Jeremy Scahill was saying about the president?

2:12:51 Jeremy, you used the word murder before when you talked about the people who have been killed by these strikes who are not combatants we can establish. And obviously that's a loaded word because it carries certain moral and legal ramifications. Why do you use that word? If someone goes into a shopping mall in pursuit of one of their enemies and opens fire on a crowd of people and guns down a bunch of innocent people in a shopping mall, they've murdered those people. When the Obama administration sets a policy where patterns of life are enough of a green light to drop missiles on people or to send in AC-130s to spray them down,

2:13:29 But that wasn't the case here. You're talking about a targeted person here. No, no, no, no, no. If you go to the village of Al-Madjula in Yemen, where I was, and you see the unexploded cluster bombs, and you have the list and photographic evidence as I do, the women and children that represented the vast majority of the deaths in this first strike that Obama authorized on Yemen, those people were murdered by President Obama on his orders because there was believed to be someone from al-Qaeda in that area. There's only one person that's been identified that had any connection to Al Qaeda there. And 21 women and 14 children were killed in that strike. And the US tried to cover it up and say it was a Yemeni strike. And we know from the WikiLeaks cables that David Petraeus conspired with the president of Yemen to lie to the world about who did that bombing.

2:14:12 It's murder when you, it's mass murder. When you say we are going to bomb this area because we believe a terrorist is there and you know that women and children are in the area. The United States has an obligation to not bomb that area if they believe that women and children are there. That, that, I'm sorry, that's murder. He's not an editor by the way. He's a, he's a freelance investigative journalist that happens to write for the nation once in a while. Now, and a couple other things. One, you should, as a progressive, MSNBC is really a spokeshole for the administration in most situations. So they'll push back against the progressives, because most of the progressives, which are the Democracy Now, a little more radical side. He is from Democracy Now, right? Isn't he also on Democracy Now? He's freelance, but I think he does a lot of Democracy Now stuff. He probably does, yeah. He's also been on Stewart. But Democracy Now and those guys, they push a little more. They are really upset about Obama. They're the ones, and they're all Democrats,

2:15:07 And they're extremely upset and they're the ones pushing the, you know, because it's like we didn't want another George Bush. Well, here's another MSNBC bit. This is where we have Stangers on the show. I don't know who this is coming. One of those morning shows. It's a drippy drab show. And I really don't care, but it just gives you, you know, you brought this up and I thought you were so right on. That the Democrats and people on the left are very uncomfortable that the president seems to be doing this with such ease and that he isn't toiling for hours and looking out the window. We've all seen the beautiful pictures, you know, and hand in head in hand. And I don't know if I can do this. I'm going to kill another person. I might kill some innocent innocents. You know, he has no problem with it.

2:15:50 So, I think he is conflicted by these, but I do believe, as I wrote in this, they hide behind the secrecy of both programs, particularly the cyber program, to not discuss it. So the United States has never acknowledged ever using a cyber weapon. For drones, you can't deny it. I mean, you see the result. Yeah, well, but it's also a question as to how the president's constituents deal with this. And Steve, we've talked about the very uncomfortable position I think this puts a lot of folks on the left. And I mean there's been to some degree a lack of discussion about this I think because it's hard for people to wrap their heads around. I mean this idea that President Obama is continuing and in some cases

2:16:30 amplifying the programs put in place by the Bush administration on on on very sensitive... He amplified all of them. Yes, or all of them. Well it seems like you talk about you know missing the opportunity to have the discussion with the American people and to explain some of these things and I I part of me sort of the cynical part of me says well that's that's basically to avoid exactly what you're talking about. If you if you expose this if the if the Democratic party base that was revolted when all the revelations about George W. Bush came out really grasped some of the things that was going on. You know, he had that kill list story. There was an item in there that basically said, when these drone strikes take place and it comes time to tally up how many are killed, any male, basically, any male who's, you know, a certain age, but that's basically any male in an area of combat is considered, you know, an enemy combatant. So if you are too stupid to understand what's going on here, luckily we have Aaron Burnett

CHAPTER 26 / 28 Discussion

Erin Burnett Sieve Gaffe, European Economic Blame

CNN's Erin Burnett is mocked for using a funnel to illustrate intelligence leaks while calling it a "sieve." Meanwhile, President Obama blamed the weakening U.S. economy on the "cloud" coming over from the Eurozone. European Council President Herman Van Rompuy responded by reminding the U.S. that the 2008 financial crisis originated on the American side of the Atlantic.

erin burnett· cnn· barack obama· eurozone· herman van rompuy

2:17:21 And Erin Burnett, they should drone CNN headquarters. She's standing there, John, I kid you not, with a kitchen funnel, with a salad bowl, and a bottle of water. Required, you know, a little bit of a setup here. Top secret intelligence leaking out of Washington like a sieve. Can you believe this? Is that a sieve or is that a funnel? It's a funnel. Well, you know what a sieve is, right? Yeah, it's not a sieve. A funnel's not a sieve. You should have said funnel doesn't even get the right the right implement correct unbelievable so first of all so she's pouring water in a funnel yeah, and she's calling it a save this commentary Yeah, and she's calling it a sieve you're watching too much CNN to catch this I must say she's her her waist has Tightened up a bit. Oh, you can believe that they're you know giving her a bloody hill cinched okay, and then the final one because of course

2:18:20 We think that John McCain, he is the ultimate pitchman. He's the guy that was right there leading around the top oil companies through Libya and I'm sure when Syria falls he'll be there with again all the top oil companies and military brass and he'll do the same in Yemen. This guy is a total prick, an a-hole. And he's on Charlie Rose this morning with CBS. And he's not having any of this number two and Al Qaeda's core is gone and where and oh no he's not having he's he's very angry about the leaks because this of course is completely coming from the Oval Office. But he says something which was just like whoa. Good morning Charlie. Tell me specifically what it is about these leaks that you think compromise national security.

2:19:05 Well, two of the highest priorities that we have as far as national security is concerned is the issue of the Iranian nuclear build-up, the attempts of Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and the other, of course, Is is the issue of drones which are one of the key elements as you just described in the previous story and how we Will keep al-qaeda down and by the way, I take a little issue with the previous report the al-qaeda is I'm making a comeback and I'm gonna get LL Cool J to do an al-qaeda comeback. You're making a comeback

2:19:52 They're making a comeback. Wow. Wow. Well, he's obviously just stooging for the, you know, the two, $3 trillion going down the tubes in the Pentagon. That's, you know, sinking the country. That's fine, I guess. That's patriotic. Yeah. Have you heard the president's latest thing about the economy? What do you know? Why we're all down? No, no. I'm going to hear about it, though. Oh, oops. You talked over it. Hold on. Here we go. A lot of that's attributable to Europe and the cloud that's coming over from the Atlantic and the whole world economy has been weakened by it. Alright, it's the cloud coming over from Europe. They got the wrong Obama. Well, Haiku Herman is pissed.

2:20:45 He's not having this blame anymore. Oh, by the way, he's in Russia. He's standing next to Putin when he says this for some reason. We have to put a lot of nuances in this blaming in some way of the Eurozone for the so-called problems of the world economy. Now, you've never heard this guy really raise his voice. This is the first time I'm seeing him cracking under the pressure. First of all, We have our problems, they are very well known, but world economic growth is also suffering from problems in some of the emerging economies.

2:21:29 Not the Russian economy, of course, but some of the emerging countries are facing huge problems. And what we are living now, what we are experiencing now, you can't compare this with the huge financial crisis of 2008 and 2009. 9 coming from the other side of the ocean. Oh, then at that time we had overall in Europe a in the euro in the European Union every session of he is pissed This is the song for Heiko Hermann. That sucks. I was gonna play the tremolos. So he, of course we have to harken back because we were doing the show during this. Yeah. And it was all those Europeans that were so, oh it's your problem not ours you suck. Yeah.

2:22:25 You guys can sink on your own, we got nothing to do with you. And now we're- Especially the Scottish banks. Yeah, and now we're saying it's our fault and Obama's saying, no it's your fault! That's why I wanted to play, you've got your troubles, I've got mine. Da da da da. But YouTube failed me. Yeah, so this is an issue. I wonder what the connection with Putin's got to do with this. Well, he was there. I didn't clip it because it was uninteresting. But you know, he's looking for investment from Russia. Haiku Herman is? Yes. He said he was looking for a bailout? Yep, from Russia. Well, and it makes kind of sense. You know, I think if Putin wants to do anything, you know, we have this brick central bank.

CHAPTER 27 / 28 Discussion

Quantitative Easing Debate, Debt Restructuring Proposals

The hosts debate the merits of a potential "QE3" (Quantitative Easing) and its impact on the economy. John C. Dvorak argues that trillions of dollars should be injected into the economy through debt relief for the public rather than bailouts for banks. Adam Curry questions how such a plan would avoid massive inflation and expresses skepticism about the fairness of selective debt restructuring.

quantitative easing· ben bernanke· inflation· debt relief· banking

2:23:19 that they're trying to set up with Brazil, India, China and Russia, which would not trade on the dollar. So they're trying to make a reserve currency. The euro by definition has always been, they've always tried to make that the de facto reserve currency, which is I'm pretty sure why Goldman Sachs was sent in to assassinate the system. And I'm sure we're actually the ones that are, this is what Heiko Hermann is saying. Like you're screwing us. Yeah, well, maybe we are. You are such a Yankee doodle. Today? Because you sold me on Clinton! Yeah, but I mean... On Hillary. But you're not supposed to actually think it's a good thing. I don't see why it's not. Euro's down to $1.25. When it gets down to below a dollar, I'm gonna be a happy camper. I can go back to Europe and hang out. Get some hookers. Yeah. What happened to... Explain this to me. So I saw the market... crude oil's down to $84. So I saw the market go down and down and down.

2:24:19 And then all of a sudden it pops up like a mofo. What happened? How does that work? It's corrupt! Oh, okay. Is that because Bernanke or someone at the Fed said we might have to do another printing of money, another quantitative easing, a QE3? Is that the reason why? I think so and I think they have to do that because essentially people moan and groan about Sergey Brin just sold $47 million worth of Google stock. Anyway, they have... There's a man who's getting laid. The way this monetary system works, despite all the gold bugs thinking it doesn't work this way, is you do have to regulate the amount of money that's in circulation. And you do that and you balance it out based on inflation. And even though the European economists are now realizing you have to have some inflation, you have to have some here too, because we got none.

2:25:13 I mean we do have some but it's not enough. We have to crank up the, we cranked up QE1, QE2 and it didn't cause the old runaway inflation. It's going to be like Germany in the 30s which is bull crap. And so you got to get it up a little more. So they're going to have to do a QE3 to push it because although I mean, I have a, I think it's a great thing to do because you needed to, that's what happened during the 1850s. How much QE do you need? How much of the QE do you need? Well, that's the problem because of everyone being gutless about this. This is very important because I know that you're big on this and you think it should be, you know, trillions of dollars and that's probably what it would take. But if you essentially print trillions of dollars, doesn't that dilute our money?

2:25:59 by definition? It's not going to change if there's no inflation of any sort and the price of you know unless there's some outside influence there should be it dilutes our dollars in so far as foreign trade is concerned making usually our stuff cheaper, relatively cheaper which would improve our exports. But hold on a second, I don't have any stuff No, but it's not going to cost you, when you go to your farmer's market, the dozen eggs is still going to be a dollar or two dollars or four dollars, whatever you pay. It's not going to change any of that. So what difference does it make? You just have more money in your pocket to buy more eggs. Wait, wait, wait, wait, how do I get more money?

2:26:40 Well, what's going to happen is you put the money in circulation and it causes the pull through that the economy needs. The real job creators are the public. If they'd given the money instead of to the stupid banks and given it to the public, which is the way it worked during the gold rush... Well now you're sounding like an Obama bot. So am I just supposed to hear you say give me some money? No, no, Obama's against all this. There's no Obama bots that say this. Give me some money? How do I get my money? I think you could do some, there's all kinds, well, you probably won't get any. Thank you, that would be my point. As much money gets into circulation, it will create jobs, but it has to go into circulation from below, not by

2:27:20 Obama all he does is give the money to the banks and they just sit on it because they're unsure about what's going to happen in the future and they can get some interest out of it, very little, but it's safe so they don't have to loan the money to anybody. There has to be pull through, the public has to have more money. So are you on board then with This is very interesting to me. Are you on board then with infrastructure projects? I mean, is that what we should be doing with the money? If we create all this money, where is it supposed to go? And how does that not create inflation? I just don't understand the principles of how it works. relief would be one way with people that are underwater on their loans and I don't have any loan so I would be forced on the on the bank say look you have to do this much debt restructuring well somebody's got $300,000 on their house there's no reason that they have to be paying 20% interest hold on a second how do I that's not fair where do I get my share I don't have a loan

2:28:13 This is bullcrap. I don't like your idea. That's your Obama bot thing. No, it's never going to be fair. You'll benefit from it at some point because everybody will. But these guys who are suckered into buying these places, it's not like they're not going to pay off the loan. It's not that all you're doing is forcing the banks in some way. You say here you can have $10 billion but it's got to go right down to the homeowners, let's say, in a debt restructuring situation. If you restructure the debt, I understand. So one way or the other you're giving the money indirectly to the bankers.

2:28:50 If there were provisions for the banks that you'd take the money back from them if they didn't do what they have to do, but based on... It has to get distributed somehow. You can't just set up shop in the corner and write welfare checks. But the banks were given all this money with no provisos to do anything with it. So they just sat on it. Hold on a second. I make you now John C. Dvorak, chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. You can now print $4 trillion, which of course is just start because ones and zeros. It's not really printing anything. What are you going to do with it? Let's just say you're in control. Where does this money go so that it doesn't bail out banks?

2:29:35 It has to go to debt relief. That's for the public, not for the banks or not for Morgan Stanley. It's our debt relief programs have to be developed to make sure that everybody that owes money on stuff are not paying these ridiculous interest rates and or they're underwater to a point where they can is cheaper to walk. But that's a bailout. It is a bailout, but it's a bailout for the public. Okay, so then your theory is let's say someone's paying some ridiculous amount on a car loan or credit cards and then The way it goes is they don't actually print Do they so didn't are you gonna say okay? Your debt relief comes in the form of money you pay off the bank. They have to lower your fee. Is that is that what you're saying?

2:30:24 I think the banks have to restructure every loan that they've done. Especially these balloon payments, they're all owned by all these loans. You don't have to print money for that. You just have to tell the bank screw you, you gotta lower or we'll kill you. We'll drone you. You could actually, you don't have to print money for that. But I think if you start adding it up, you're going to have to. I like the idea of just telling the banks, here's the set rate. This is a new law. This is really bad. And you can't charge anyone more than 2%. Because then everyone would have lots of money to give to us for the show. Right? Yeah. Well, you know what? What do you think I'm working here for? I think your plan is leaky. It is. So I don't have it. It's not like something I'm working on, but I'm just saying if you can get you've got to get more money in circulation. Well, so but this so then the not a way to do that is to build stuff. Well, how about just paying down our debt?

2:31:19 That we have to other countries. I don't know. That'll put us under in no time. We need 30 trillion dollars in pushed into the economy. Oh, okay. Hold on a second. I just made 30 trillion dollars. New problemo. Yeah, we will never get that much. It's going to be two, three, four trillion maybe. But it's at least, you know, a start. At least it's something. Hmm. I don't know I don't like your plan. I don't think it's a good course You know nobody would like such an idea, and that's why we're gonna go into a deep depression because nobody you know I think Bernanke gets it, but he his ideas fall on deaf ears. I I think you have a wrong view of how to do this yeah, I think we shoot the bankers and

2:32:11 Well, this is an alternative plan I wouldn't disagree with. And I would like to give every webcam girl and hooker an extra 10 grand. This is a tip. Thank you. I would abolish... well, anyway. I gotta write my plan. Webcam girl. Yeah. It's a tough life. Tough life. Tough life. How many webcam girls must there be? There's probably thousands of them. Oh, how about hundreds of thousands? Hundreds of thousands. Oh, this is such a, you know, such a, it's a big deal. Um, anyway, Moody's, uh, did downgrade six German banks. I thought that was a nice shot across the bow there from, uh, the American elites to the, yeah, this is like, Hey Merkel, watch this biatch. So no, I mean, it's a, this is clearly meant to bring down Europe and it's going to suck for all of us, unfortunately. But I feel worse for the Europeans.

CHAPTER 28 / 28 Discussion

Pet Restraint Laws, Dog Sensory Perception

States including Hawaii, Arizona, and Connecticut are implementing fines for drivers who do not restrain their pets in vehicles. The hosts discuss the sensory experience of dogs sticking their heads out of car windows, suggesting the high volume of smells acts as an intense experience for the animals. The segment concludes with a final appeal for listener support and a sign-off from the hosts.

pet safety· highway safety· dogs· sensory perception· animal behavior

2:33:14 Because they're being sold a bunch of hooey. Which is really quite bad. Where are we at? I'll save my zombie news for Sunday because I've really... Oh, okay. Yeah, everyone should stay tuned for zombie news. I've really delved into it. Well, there is something interesting going on with the bath salts and some interesting theories about this. Yeah? Yeah. Okay, we'll save it. That sounds like a good teaser. A good teaser. I'm definitely tuning in. Yeah. And we could wind up with the latest shut up slave moment. Oh, that's always good for you. Always good. There is a crackdown beginning across... Oh, by the way, it says Diane Sawyer again. I'll back it up. The same outfit. Looking hot. Looking hot for 72. Crackdown. There is a crackdown beginning across the country tonight on a serious threat to highway safety. What could that be, John? A serious threat to highway safety.

2:34:19 That would be signs on the side of the road, Burma Shave or zombies walking around the highway. No, no, no, all wrong, all wrong. Drivers who like to keep their pets in their laps or on a seat unrestrained. It is a hazard for people and pets. Here's ABC's Dan Harris. Hey Dan. The windswept canine drinking in the open air, it's an icon of the American road. We drive with them on our laps and sometimes even give them free rein in the car. But while we're all well versed in the dangers of texting and driving... Great sound effects. AAA fines nearly a third of all drivers today admit to being distracted by their pets, too. States are starting to move on this. Hawaii now outlawing drivers from holding a pet on their lap. Rhode Island and Oregon may do the same, while drivers in Arizona, Connecticut and Maine now face fines. Notice Texas not on that lineup of idiocy. You know in Texas you can still ride in the back of the pickup truck? Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that. It's hard on the back.

2:35:22 So, um... It's cool. I like that. Did you know that the studies are finally starting to show up that now indicate that salt is not that bad at all? Oh, that's why, uh... So they're switching. I haven't seen the studies yet, that's interesting. We'll get you some data, we'll talk about it in an upcoming show, maybe Sunday. We'll talk about salt and some other things. It turns out that they made a kind of a logical error to blame salt for all the bad things that are going on. Oh no. So I think they're going to pull this plug on this salt and they're going to go after now dogs. This report, if you have a chance look it up in the show notes, 415.nashownotes.com is really great because then I think what's happening here is the

2:36:05 The AAA is going to be selling approved belts for dogs. That's a big bonanza for them. What is this going to be like? Most dogs won't put up with being... They want to stick their head out the window. And by the way, I have a theory as to why that is. Dogs have this unbelievable hundred thousand times or ten thousand, some huge amount of relationship to what we can smell, what they can smell. They smell everything. They can smell direction. And so when they stick their head out the window, it's like an acid trip for them. Because they're getting all these aromas from all is just the cars zooming by it's just and that's why if you notice they're always sniffing at the air

2:36:41 The dog's getting high. He's getting high. They're getting wasted on all these really crazy smells and this is the other thing I've noticed. I believe this to be true too. You ever notice how dogs go after the mail, you go after a mailman but usually the UPS guy coming up the steps, the dog will go after the door and they'll, you know, they just go nuts, they bark crazy because to a dog because of their nose, that UPS guy doesn't represent some person coming up the steps. The UPS guy represents thousands of people because of all the smells in the truck and that he's handling all these packages. The dog thinks there's like a whole army of zombies outside. He thinks an army is coming up the steps and the dog goes crazy. I like the thought of my dog just getting wasted. Hey boss, let me put my head out. No wonder they have such a goofy look on their faces when they do that. Yeah. They're hammered. That's a good thing. Well, they actually have a dog in this report.

2:37:38 And they strap him down with like this handy dog belt. And the dog's like, it's so tight he can only lay on his back. And the report's like, look how much he likes it. The dog doesn't like it. This is crazy. This is just crazy. Yeah, that's the stupidest thing ever. It's just absolutely crazy. Anyway, so we've got also the war on drugs, some interesting stuff that I've been researching. But I think we'll also follow the F-Russia meme. It's kind of fun to watch what Lucifer's next move will be. Or Rush's next move, for that matter. It could happen in just a number of days. And we'd like to see some of you boners out there, as you were called by your fellow donors, step up to the plate and help us out.

2:38:26 So we can get through these summer months. So remember, Dvorak.org slash NA. If you are in line for a night ring, by the way, we have an email address for that. Rings at noagendanation.com. Rings at noagendanation.com. You have to do your own accounting on these things. That's very important because we have no staff. And Alex Jones has much more money than us. Yeah, I heard that. He sure doesn't wear it. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, uh, Drone Star State. That would be the capital, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Lookout Point over the San Juan de Fuca Sanctuary in northern Washington where the USA meets Canada in Studio B, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W.