Hydroxy Booster

00:01 If there ever was a perfect example of synchronicity, this show is it. Somehow we always seem to make it all come together at the same time. Coming to you from a very warm Britain, from the Curry Manor in the United Kingdom, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm John C. DeVoreco. We had a nice warm day yesterday, but it looks like it might be chilly today. Summer has arrived here, man, all over the continent. It's almost like Florida. We get 85 degrees and then big thunderstorms at the end of the day. And of course, there's no air conditioning. Well that's not like Florida. That's the only thing that's different. Yeah, it's like the really poor part of Florida. Right. So I was just in Florida actually yesterday. Yeah, I heard you do, didn't you do a no agenda from Florida?

00:44 Yeah, no, we're doing no agenda now. I'm sorry, I mean, Tech 5. I'm sorry, I literally got back from six hours in the car, John. I just drove back from the Netherlands and went through the Channel Tunnel, so... You did? You drove through... No, but you don't drive through, you get on a train. Yeah, you get on the train. I went out Friday... Do you stay in your car? Do you stay in your car? You stay in your car. You want to know the process? Yeah, I've been through the tunnel but only on a train, on a passenger train where you could, you know... Oh no, this is quite different. First of all, the cheapest and best way is to book it online. And I booked the FlexiPlus option which means you can just kind of show up because otherwise you're on a time schedule. You have a check-in time and you have a departure time because they want to manage the traffic down there.

01:28 So flexi means you pay, I don't know, I'm sure it's 30% more. So you can kind of show up whenever you want. You give an indicated time but there's no penalty. And you get like a little... I like it. Yeah, you get an end. So you drive up, then first you insert your credit card or your confirmation number just like a check-in at a terminal, at an airport terminal. It then poops out a ticket that you hang on your, off of your mirror, your inside rearview mirror. And then of course it routes you past the shopping center. You can't go past, no you have to actually go through the parking lot of the shopping center. No, really? Oh yeah, it's fantastic. That's like a hotel casino in Las Vegas where you can't check in without walking past a bunch of slot machines. Yeah, oh and it's not even really apparent how you get to the, it's not like train this way, it says France that way.

02:17 So you kind of follow that sign and then you come to UK immigration. So then finally through the parking lot you come to UK immigration where of course they check you to see if they just want to say goodbye to you I guess which is kind of interesting. It's not the same way always at the airports, certainly not for going to Europe. uh... and so then they clear you then you drive might say about a hundred yards and then there's the french uh... so you haven't even got on the train yet you actually do that you're you're on friday french border in england yeah yeah it's a you you get into customs there or you can get you know so that's where they check you for french customs and then the everything changes near the it the whole vibe changes literally

03:05 uh... and then you get the yeah i mean a lot of this is more french than english i think is in you drive up the uh... first have to go through the security gate which is kind of cool which has like magnetic shit under it so you have to you drive through this one area this cameras and it's checking your whole car i guess to make sure you don't have anything bad on board right uh... and then for the clip flexi customers you have a little like first class kind of well more like a business class lounge and they pack up a little box for you So Flexi Class is actually... It's like a business class. Are there only two classes of service? Yes, regular and Flexi Plus. And so you can get out of your car and go do something? Yeah, so you park at the... you have to do that either at the shopping mall or you can do that after the shopping mall if you have regular class you can't do that. Flexi Plus they have a little... yeah it's literally like a little lounge. You drive up, you park

03:59 It's about halfway between the shopping mall and the actual train. And you can go inside, it's nice, it's air-conditioned. Everyone's French, even on the English side. And they have really nice baguettes, and it's all great French snack food, so no crap. uh... you know and like real strong espressos and cappuccinos and they'll pack a little box for you and then you take that into your car and you know there's a very discreet little LCD flat screen that tells you it's time to board and then you get in, you drive and then you go down a little ramp and then you turn into the uh... turn right into the train and then uh... because we're passenger cars you go up uh... to the double decker so you go to the upper level

04:42 And you just pull forward until the guy in front of you, and then there's people assisting all the way through. It's like getting on a ferry boat from Seattle. Yeah, kind of like that. It's about the same distance between the wall. You can open up your door comfortably, but you do have to look out to make sure someone's not walking alongside the cars to one of the restrooms, for instance. And then it's just a train. But now, okay, that's a, actually, you know what would be cool? You gotta take one of your cameras that's got video capability and kind of like glue it to the dashboard and then film the whole little thing. It's kind of boring, it's not that exciting. I have one I have to post one of these days which is a simple video of me trying to get out of the parking lot at the Venetian Hotel. That's impossible isn't it? It goes on forever this video. But anyway. Go left here to come back and gamble more.

05:35 So anyway, let's go back to this Lewis. So you park now, can you get out and get on? Is there a regular train hooked to this or is this just all cars? It's all cars, right? So you're actually going... So I was pretty much one of the first ones on. And so you actually drive all the way forward through all these different carriages. And I counted... Oh, you mean they're hooked together? So in other words, you can go from one car to another? I mean, one of the carriages? to another you can drive through from one to another? When you get on, I think there was row 36 or cabin 36 I think was the first one that I saw because it has LED displays and I drove forward all the way to number 12 I think.

06:19 And then, you know, then there were other people in front of me, so then you stop. And then they close the doors between the carriages, just like a regular train. But they do open if you want to get from one to the other, because there's restrooms located every other one, I think. So you have to go through those, you know, automatic... Yeah, the red door. Yeah, the electric doors that let you... That they open. Push, push. Yes, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And then until a guy helps you, you make sure that you pull up to the bumper baby. And then kill the engine and you have to keep your windows halfway open. It's not comfortable. It is kind of warm, particularly on a day like this where we've got 85 degrees.

06:57 and uh... but then when warm in the tunnel to uh... will so once the train gets going then uh... it did cool down a little bit but uses thirty five minute ride and then kind of like after twenty five years he's a wall can you see the walls of the time or yes low yes you need there are uh... windows and so you can see lights for the flashing by and and we could be on space mountain me and they could like take me right back to do that to say that uh... folks and i went in and you know i drive out and i wouldn't even know if you have no bearing whatsoever. But then you come out of the tunnel and then of course... Wait, wait, stop. How long does this take? 35 minutes. Oh, that's not bad. No, so you eat your lunch, you know, and you chill out and you drink your cappuccino in your car and maybe you get up, stretch your legs and then you're there.

07:44 and then you drive off and of course it's kind of weird because then you have to drive on the right hand side of the road. Right, and your steering wheel is on the wrong side so it's a dangerous journey. It's for thrill seekers only John C. Dvorak. I mean, I'm sure, you know, those wrong hand side of the road cars is just, you know, you can't see the pass. Yeah, I don't miss it. I mean, for me it's, when it comes to Operating machinery, I'm ambidextrous. You know, helicopters, you fly right seat. Airplanes, you fly left seat. I don't have any trouble driving in England in the car with the steering wheel on the wrong side of the road. I just don't like to have it where I'm on the wrong side of the road with the wrong side steering wheel because you can't see to pass. If you have to pass somebody, you have to damn near pull the whole car out into the other lane to see if anyone's coming.

08:32 Well, but you know, you... Come on man, how long have you been driving? I mean, you know how big the car is. It's dangerous. I'm just saying it's a dangerous proposition and people... It's dangerous, damn it! Wait, here's what's worse about it. It looks stupid. You look like an idiot with the wheel on the wrong side. I hadn't considered that. I actually had a nice little Panama hat on, you know, like, gee, I must look like a real total dick. Yeah, I would think. So, it's 35 minutes, that's not too bad. What's the cost on it? That's very expensive. I think I paid round trip was 240 pounds. So, yeah, 500 bucks. Not cheap. 500 bucks? Oh yeah. Holy crap. Yeah, but you get a sandwich.

09:17 In a nice box. Now I think the regular, it's not that much more expensive, I think the regular probably still would, now of course you can load up four people in my car, I was just by myself, there's no points off for the number of passengers you have on board. It's just per vehicle, so it does get a little bit less expensive if you're splitting the cost. Yeah, I guess with four people it would be okay, but geez. What's the train ride? I took the train once, but I can't remember what it was. It wasn't nearly that. The train took me all the way to Cologne. Right. The TGV, the high-speed train. Well, actually, the Eurotrain comes to drop you off somewhere. I can't remember where. A couple of different places. Paris, and there's one that goes toward Amsterdam and stops somewhere. In Antwerp, doesn't it? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Antwerp. Yeah, you need to get off and get on something faster.

10:10 So you didn't ask me what I was doing, why I took the train with my car. I'm more fascinated by the journey. But anyway, what were you doing by the way? I went to go to the Black Cross. Did we talk about this last week? No. Okay, the Black Cross is a motocross, you know, like motorcycle, cross motorcycles. And it started, I think, maybe ten years ago. My first one was six years ago and it literally was an illegal, hence black. It's in Dutch, in the eastern part of Holland known as the Achterhoek or the back corner. Which the people who live there and work there, mainly farmland, they would be equated to Hicks from the south. Okay. Okay, just to give you some...

10:58 So they start this motocross, this illegal motocross, and this thing grows out. Six years ago when I went for the first time before there was any media attention, already in a weekend 100,000 people would show up. And it had these people with the craziest things that, you know, like... tanks would show up with and then they'd go around the track with surfboards behind them with guys dressed up as Arabs waving to the crowd. There's always five guys who have some kind of thing that looks like a dildo that they ride. I mean, it's crazy, right? It's just a complete carnival of burning fossil fuels and drinking massive quantities of beer. But it's really laid back and there's no aggression.

11:42 and also there's no signage that says you can't go here, stop, go back, you know it has signs like please scream loudly here or complaints with an arrow pointing towards the exit, you know completely the opposite. Right, that kind of old gags. Yeah but they really work and even the cops who were out on the road helping direct traffic towards this event and everyone camps there of course, it's very much a festival you know so people show up in their campers and tents and just sheets and sticks and So anyway, so I had set up a kind of a meetup with people who are into this hydroxy booster stuff. I'm sure I told you about this. Nope. Oh, fuck.

12:23 The Hydroxy booster, somewhat debated online, but it's a very simple construction of creating hydrogen and then feeding that into the intake of your car so that you get better mileage. Okay. Okay. So I was going to meet up with you. So this is, so what you're telling me is this is your latest kind of, let's say, nut ball thing you're working on or what? Yeah, just one of the many. Okay. This is the left nut ball thing I'm working on. And so literally, you know, the way the system works is you have a canister of water, you put some plates in there, and then you put a current through it, which comes from the battery, and then that creates hydrogen. And then you want to route that hydrogen into the intake of your manifold or your carburetor or whatever.

13:10 And the theory is that because this is a very efficient gas, hydrogen, that it mixes up with the gasoline and of course it takes over a portion of the use and you get better mileage. So I'm really interested in this. And you really can't buy them. People make kits and of course there's people doing MLM schemes with this stuff. So there's a lot of pros and cons. I really want to try this thing. So these guys agreed to show up. One guy had actually made the thing from PVC tubing and wires. This guy's an Einstein. He's talking about zero point energy and quantum shit. Yeah, it makes sense to me that he would be talking about that. But then another guy is from a car tuning shop and he showed up with all the tools.

13:54 And then yet another guy was the guy when someone said, does anyone have a roll of vulcanized tape on Teflon basis? You know, he was the guy who said, why sure, I've got one right here. You know, a couple of people showed up with buses of, you know, like 911 was an inside job, etc. So it was totally my, totally my people, totally, totally my people. And we hooked this thing up, we built it right there on the spot. It took a couple hours and we actually built it in the wheel well. And I took pictures, John, and they're on my Flickr account, linked from my weblog, curry.com. So you can see the actual process, the chronology of this install. And I've tested it, I tested 100 kilometers yesterday. And this is based, the way I tested it was, filled up the tank, it's a 60 liter tank.

14:42 and then drove until it was about three quarters empty, maintained the mileage that I drove, and then filled it up to see how much went back into the tank. All right? Very simple way of checking your mileage. You agree? It seems to work, it's a dis-attractive way of doing it, just of course you have to have a consistent type of driving, but yeah. Right, so the consistent type of driving I used was both highway based, but one was at 110 kilometers per hour and the other one was 130 kilometers per hour. At 130 kilometers per hour, it does about

15:18 It gave me about an 11% efficiency. So I was doing 1... 11% improvement? Improvement, yeah. Before I was doing 1 liter would take me 10 kilometers and now 1 liter took me 11 kilometers. But under that, so like 110, I was doing closer to 1 to 13. So I was closer to to a 29% improvement. Crazy, huh? I'm skeptical. But you know, hey, you never know. But the numbers don't lie. Well, the numbers don't lie if those are the numbers indeed. Right, well all I did is I tracked the mileage, did 100 kilometers give or take, but I tracked it and then I divided it. So let's assume that this process works. What are you going to do about it?

16:19 I'm not going to start a business, John. That's for sure. No, I mean, it's clear that, you know, this stuff has to be developed because, you know, it's PVC and it can melt and, you know, it's still in the hobby stage. What am I going to do with it? I don't know. I'll promote anyone who's building this stuff and trying to get it in people's hands. I mean, it seems like a pretty good way to save some money. You know, anyone can build one, it's not hard, it's just plastic and some tubing. Yeah, no, no, I find it fascinating that people like yourself who are multi-millionaires are out to save a nickel or two on their gasoline. Well, dude, dude, dude, obviously I'm not out to save a nickel or a dime on gasoline, obviously I'm out to see if this fucking theory works. You sit on your ass with your goddamn Acura driving around complaining about how much you have to pay for parking. I'm actually trying to do something for the people!

17:12 I don't complain about parking or do I have an Acura for God's sake. What is that thing you drive in? If you don't know it, you can't afford it. So you spent 500 bucks to go to a thing to save a couple bucks. It's okay. I think it's good. No, I did it. I wanted to meet these people. I wanted to hear what they had to say. I wanted to see the process. It was very educational. It was fun at the same time. And then we saw some guys driving around on motorized dildos. You know what? It's possible that

17:50 mixing and you know but extracting oxygen and hydrogen from water with you with your own you know car energy and pumping that back into the gasoline yeah uh... to the next performance it's possible that it would be you know have some beneficial uh... characteristics well here's the next steps that so Although it seems like you get a lot of water in your engine. No, no, no, no, no water. It's not condensation. You can't burn oxygen and hydrogen without water coming out of the deal. Hold on a second. It's not condensation or anything. No, no, but when you burn hydrogen and oxygen together and what you're getting when you get the gas off the water is hydrogen and oxygen. But that just comes out the back.

18:31 comes out the exhaust. That's not a big deal. Yeah, but it forms a vapor trail throughout the engine and that has to create rust and all kinds of issues. I don't know, maybe there's not enough to make a difference, I suppose. Well, the theories are quite different from that. In fact, the theories are it's much better for your engine. Oh, and by the way, I put in unleaded 95, no super 98 shit or anything like that. Runs the same. We can't even get 98 here. No? Oh, okay, we got 98 over here. I think we still have 98. Well, anything that says ultimate or super speedy I didn't put in it. But it was, you know, you'll take a look at the pictures. They built it into the wheel well so it actually has extra cooling from removing my front left mist lamp. Did you have these guys install this on your system or did you do it?

19:19 No, no, it was like three different guys. One guy had made the thing and he had kind of installed it on his own car, but you know, he's not a great installer. This other guy was like a guy who installs radar systems and anti-laser blips and blops. And so he had all the shit. He knows how to install something to a car properly. But then, you know, we didn't have a garage with you know all the stuff and there was this other guy and he just had everything he had like get everything from cheese fondue to the vulcanized tape on teflon basis you know the guy had fucking everything in his car it was amazing i can see the headline now in the daily standard crackpot curry car explodes in downtown london four injured

19:58 Oh man. Hydrogen blamed. I don't know, it was just interesting. And these are some pretty hardcore people, you know, they're thinking about other stuff, obviously. Yeah, yeah, like 9-11 and what other... I think most of them are way beyond that. They did come up with... One of the girls, her name was Andrea, who had taken a train, a bus and walked to come and see us, even though she doesn't have a car, just wanted to meet us and hang out. Did you give her a ride home? Yeah, we made sure she got a ride home. Oh, that's nice. Of course. She pulled out like 80 pages she had printed from Eurolex, which is the European Union, like LexisNexis type system. And she was showing me this thing, John, which was just... and I haven't jumped into it deep enough, but I just want to let you know, called the Eurotome, which is the European Atomic... is it Commission or Community? I think it's the European Atomic Union, something like that. Again, I'm just kind of paraphrasing all this.

21:06 But what she was showing me is that once the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by everyone, so let's just presume they're going to shove it down Ireland's throat and everyone else will ratify. Wait, stop for a second. Does this woman know who you are? Yes. Okay. Yes, she does. And she knows that you're a woman, right? Yeah, of course. Oh yeah, oh yeah. But she's doing this, I don't know if she eats or sleeps. She seems to do this all day long. She's probably nuts. Yes, of course she is. But that's okay. Call us whatever you want. So she shows me this. Oh, now you're... go ahead, demonstrate. No, I'm a nutter, absolutely. And if you look at Wikipedia, even if you look up the Lisbon Treaty, you'll see this diagram. And you'll see that there's this European atomic community.

21:53 which relates to the Lisbon Treaty, so I guess once that is ratified then this other thing goes into effect. And it has in here that the members... so it's another community, so you can have a European Union but then on top of it there's another union called the European Atomic Union. You with me? Yeah. So it's just another agreement between parties, but these parties have agreed that in the European Atomic Union, which includes the same countries, and this is the thing that she was showing me just to get my attention I presume, so I'll delve into it more deeper, is that none of the governmental buildings that are members of the European Atomic Union can be searched, can be seized, can be entered, you know, any of this stuff. Don't have to pay taxes in perpetuity. So here's a treaty, and this is the only thing that really gets me going on it, here's a treaty

22:52 where these member states have said, okay, we're actually above the European Union. We give some commands down to the European Commission. Oh, and by the way, no one can ever come and look at our archives or look at the way we do business. You can't get a search warrant. It'll be a fundamental right that these guys cannot be touched. And it was right off the European LexisNexis system. What do you think the point of that is? It sounds pretty suspicious. Well, I think this is fascism the next generation. Yeah, you know, something definitely weird. We got an email from someone who suggested postmodern fascism. Oh yeah, that's the guy who sent us, that was Emanuel. He sent us a, he also sent a link to the Webster Taubley. Yeah, yeah. Who is a complete, talk about nutters.

23:43 But I actually watched that video, which unfortunately these things from Tarpley are extremely long. And he is one of the main truthers. and he, if not the guy... Yeah, well I've heard all this Prescott Bush stuff. It's about how Adolf Hitler came to power and who financed him. Right, there's that. But he also, Tarpley goes on to one weird topic after another. But curiously, and he's one of those guys who looks like the world's worst guy to interview because he won't let anyone talk but himself.

22:52 where these member states have said, okay, we're actually above the European Union. We give some commands down to the European Commission. Oh, and by the way, no one can ever come and look at our archives or look at the way we do business. You can't get a search warrant. It'll be a fundamental right that these guys cannot be touched. And it was right off the European LexisNexis system. What do you think the point of that is? It sounds pretty suspicious. Well, I think this is fascism the next generation. Yeah, you know, something definitely weird. We got an email from someone who suggested postmodern fascism. Oh yeah, that's the guy who sent us, that was Emanuel. He sent us a, he also sent a link to the Webster Taubley. Yeah, yeah. Who is a complete, talk about nutters.

23:43 But I actually watched that video, which unfortunately these things from Tarpley are extremely long. And he is one of the main truthers. and he, if not the guy... Yeah, well I've heard all this Prescott Bush stuff. It's about how Adolf Hitler came to power and who financed him. Right, there's that. But he also, Tarpley goes on to one weird topic after another. But curiously, and he's one of those guys who looks like the world's worst guy to interview because he won't let anyone talk but himself.

24:20 But, curiously, if you go back far enough, he's actually predicted the banking crisis, the oil run-up. As a guy who may have some insight into these kinds of... His rationale for all this stuff is, I think, skewed. uh... it's interesting that he would mail the uh... uh... bear stearns thing in advance of it actually happening but that's the end i've been uh... obviously why should i downloaded a couple of interviews from uh... was a project camelot dot net have you ever seen that okay so the interview these guys who are you know like some of the ranks test pilots or work that nsa whistleblowers essentially

25:02 And they're all saying that, you know, the way the United States government certainly, but probably most governments, the way they protect, you know, their really highly classified stuff is basically, you know, just letting anyone talk about whatever they want and just discrediting them. It's much easier, obviously. Yeah. So these guys generally discredit themselves by their style. Yeah, like we're so fucking normal, but that's okay. Let me... let me just say seriously i mean you know you know i'm talking about well i think i you know he's going on and on and on about one thing in a typical guy in this business genre you know i mean i you you are headed there you but you're you haven't quite made yet well the thing is that you have credentials though because they have actually held these positions within the government so they do have credentials these are just guys figuring shit out these are guys who say look here's where i worked i worked on the

25:51 X-17 project, I mean, and this goes really far, John. I mean, right down to the 9-11 planes were holographic images, so you know, I'm not very... Well, but you know... That's a good one. I like to see that. There's money to be made from holographic images that big. Well, it's interesting because, you know, that there was a presentation, I think, I don't know if it was a Disney presentation, but it happened in the 80s or maybe early 90s. I remember hearing about it back then. uh... where a guy came out, he invited everyone to Hollywood, Steven Spielberg was there, all the big directors and they go in one of these private cinemas and uh... so a guy comes out, kind of a German like speaking guy and he's on stage and he's walking through the audience and he's talking about the history of television how they had came up with the first cathode ray tube and basically goes to that and said and you know that's how we and that's how television was developed and then poof the guy just disappears

26:49 Because the whole presentation was about the future of television and he was actually a holographic image. So anyway, so these guys who are talking about this stuff, they do have credibility from their positions that they held. And they're just being open about it because, you know, it's like people call them nuts anyway. And that's the way the government keeps stuff secret, which I think is pretty plausible. It works. I mean, I will agree, and I thought about this myself, not that, you know, I think that we're completely off in the deep end. Generally speaking, I think we're fairly accurate in our analysis, except for maybe this.

27:27 hydrogen thing, but generally speaking, I think that's the way the flying saucer thing works so well. I mean, if there were flying saucers and they were actually having meetings with these guys over strawberry ice cream, and somebody stumbled onto the meeting with some gray, one of these supposed you know, the grays, which is a good moniker. And somebody stumbled in and they said, oh my god, they wouldn't have to really shoot the guy as he ran out. No, just let him tell it. Let it tell the story. Who's going to believe this? Yeah, the guys are sitting there, they're eating strawberry ice cream and discussing stealth technology. Well, so here's the theory. You want to hear the theory from these guys?

28:15 What is it? Okay, the theory is, well first of all, depopulation is of course what we're headed for. That's the main thrust of the theories here. Now let's go back, what theories? Well there are many theories. Okay, we're going with the depopulation theory. So depopulation theory is that the big names, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Morgans, etc. So first of all, they've kind of fucked shit up with the financial, you know, the way they ran the finances. So that has to be corrected. But also it's just too many people on the planet, whereas 5 billion people will be able to keep them just rich and happy and moving along just fine. Right? Okay. Okay. So the depopulation, how does that happen? Well, first we gotta create some events.

29:09 So we've had 9-11, that already helped change all the laws. The next step is, and it could be, there's a couple of different branches here of the theory, but pretty much universally, and this is interesting since we've picked up on it, universally most of these theories all agree that there's going to be some form of big major UFO event. uh... uh... rise the rubber yeah well so that will never happen this is you know i i'm gonna stop you but i want you to continue the latest or a couple of sides and this reminds me of uh... we had a guy joe for me to use the run the big company here and became a multimillionaire is the guy who killed himself

29:52 No, no, he didn't kill himself. He floats around as a speaker. As a public speaker on the Flying Saucer Tour. And I remember having him on my Silicon Spin show a couple of times. And I called him out on one thing because I kept him away and then I brought him back in. It was the same thing you hear from every one of these guys. There's an anti-gravity device out there and it's going to be revealed in the next 60 days. They always have this short term timetable and it's always about anti-gravity and that's how they're going to explain how all these flying saucers and all these things can do these weird things in the sky. There's anti-gravity, it's like along with zero point energy, anti-gravity, there's cold fusion, there's a whole slew of these

30:36 uh... there's a little checklist so a lot of the way i think that he is on the top of this list and it's like every jose any minute now this is the same thing with these my here some is a lawyer there's gonna be a big flying saucer event i know these guys and clinically craig iran or what they're thinking well let me let me uh... let me continue so screw screw anti-gravity i mean these guys are ten these are their guys here who was who claim to have flown the frickin spaceships okay who have met the greys, have met the tall, but these are serious government guys. you know prove proven that they were that they that they did they work that these uh... high high security level gigs so anyway enough and he granted gravity man they've got like now it's total men in black stuff so that the the the ships are here you know that they and by the way we have bases on the moon i mean i'm just telling you what's there are so but anyway the idea is regardless of whether it's uh...

31:32 a big flying saucer moment where the alien, the ETs, then contact us and say, hand us all your guns, because of course the government will say, well we've talked to them and they've, you know, it's totally like Mars attacks, right? So give us your guns. But eventually, I'm sure you've read about the camps that are being set up around the US to house FEMA camps. I mean, you've You've definitely, this has been posted on devorak.org. I did a little research on these FEMA camps a couple years ago and this is bull. I mean it's just unbelievable. Where are these camps? Where's the photos? Every time they showed photos, you know what cool thing I saw? They showed photos from the camp, one of these camps they're building. Coincidentally, I happened to have been on the road where that photo was taken. It was in Slovenia.

32:23 Well, they got camp, they'll need camps there too. So, I'm just... This camp was supposed to be in Kentucky. Well, it's supposed to be enough to house millions and millions of people. I'm just giving you the story, John. I'm not saying I believe in it, but I do appreciate you jumping in and debunking it with that's bullshit. So then, of course, there's the viral theory. This is the bird flu theory. This one I like. And this is actually, I have done a little bit of research looking at some of these pharmaceutical companies who have billions of dollars projected in their pipeline. It's been their public filings in their Q statements. And by the way, two California companies

33:09 claimed three weeks ago in the news that they have the antivirus for the H5N1 flu human to human version which means they basically either have the virus in their hands or they're lying because you can't create an antidote unless you have the virus. So, but these companies have billions of dollars of orders already from the government, $3.9 billion for stockpiles. You know, Tamiflu is now out, now it's this new stuff. And how many people have died of bird flu? 200? Like a whopping 300 maybe in the past 10 years that we've heard about this? Yeah, it's not a sweeping epidemic yet. No, it's not like it necessarily warrants a $4 billion investment from our money.

33:58 So of course the thinking there is, you know, we'll have forced inoculations and then just, you know, the stories behind the Spanish flu, the World War I flu that wiped out 60 million people. No, but I'm sure it's a whopper. Go. But this is pretty historical. You could look this up. So they injected GIs who were going over to Europe, to Spain, 600,000 GIs or whatever. They injected him with a whole bunch of wide variety of stuff. And of course, a virus is really activated by... we have lots of viruses, but if you have poor nutrition and you have some kind of stress like being on a ship going to war with a rifle and gunpowder bag. So these guys contracted this virus and it wound up killing 60 million people and there's pretty much agreement

34:51 uh... that that happened because of those inoculations so you know so this is where that theory goes is that to depopulize uh... people get uh... forced inoculations and then we'll have some kind of another stress event like aliens and then we all die now i know why people love this show it's awesome man and it's totally plausible laugh you're not coming into my compound of aurach you're not invited When the grid goes down. Let me, let me in. No, cause you have an Acura, go away.

35:37 So, are we doing product placement? Is that the reason you keep bringing up that thing? No, I can't. I thought you had an action. Yeah, I want a piece of the action and we got product placement going on that you're not telling me about. I ain't got nothing. Did you see that? That was pretty funny. It was a news article. It was on Boing Boing. There are now a couple of different local news stations being sponsored by McDonald's. We did that on the blog, Dvorak.org. We have a picture there. Yeah, I heard on BBC World on the drive back today. I was like, wow, that's pretty funny. Well, you know, anything to stretch the budget. Yeah, but in the door, this is a good cup of Starbucks coffee. Oh, I said, well, I got back. I saw one of the sponsored by PG tips show. Yeah. Wow. For the last six months. Yeah.

36:21 Actually, I'm gonna have another sip. Well because we're too controversial John. Yeah, I think it's because the company's well You know we could get us some go-daddy codes I'm sure we could make lots of money off of selling shit just to have people support the show I want somebody just to give us yeah, we went we need an underwriter Yeah, I know so we see you know this show has been sponsored by so-and-so you can take or leave the information is not their ideas ours Arthur Daniels Midland Corp Hey, you know if they got you know brought to you by GE maybe they could get us to stop talking about genetically modified food Shit now that's it's for real though, man. That's really that's really freaking me out

37:03 Yeah, well it's an issue. Something that's a problem. Did you hear about the jalapeno pepper? I was going to bring that up to you. Oh, you know, yeah, it's been in and out of the whole thing. They don't know what's going on. It's ridiculous. A jalapeno pepper? Yeah, they're poisoning 1,200 people. Are these guys crapping on the peppers or what's the deal? Oh, I know what we got to talk about. Dude, the robot known as Barack Obama has hit Europe. Yes, I was going to talk about that because I have a couple of things to point out that aren't being covered. You know, the news media, when I was in Florida, we were at some barbecue place and it was a cool bar that had all these different televisions across the bar on different channels.

37:46 And it was like you watch these things and it was like Barack Obama Barack Obama And they had all these different shows on but on shit on MSNBC and CNN It's only Barack Obama. It's like the Barack Obama channels So and you can see these they had they had they were shooting pictures of Barack Obama getting in and out of a car Yeah, you know I did meanwhile other channels had regular programming on it was ridiculous well I'm gonna have to revise my my thinking of going along with you that McCain is gonna win definitely not This is a yeah, the fix is in here man. Well of course Barack Obama. I mean he's not He's gonna blow himself up. He's he does not have he's already pushing it He's getting more pictures of himself in fact on one of his official websites He's got himself looking into the air like Elvis on that second album. Yeah I'm telling you this is a setup man. This is not this is perfect orchestration, but he's everybody wants him to win

37:03 Yeah, well it's an issue. Something that's a problem. Did you hear about the jalapeno pepper? I was going to bring that up to you. Oh, you know, yeah, it's been in and out of the whole thing. They don't know what's going on. It's ridiculous. A jalapeno pepper? Yeah, they're poisoning 1,200 people. Are these guys crapping on the peppers or what's the deal? Oh, I know what we got to talk about. Dude, the robot known as Barack Obama has hit Europe. Yes, I was going to talk about that because I have a couple of things to point out that aren't being covered. You know, the news media, when I was in Florida, we were at some barbecue place and it was a cool bar that had all these different televisions across the bar on different channels.

37:46 And it was like you watch these things and it was like Barack Obama Barack Obama And they had all these different shows on but on shit on MSNBC and CNN It's only Barack Obama. It's like the Barack Obama channels So and you can see these they had they had they were shooting pictures of Barack Obama getting in and out of a car Yeah, you know I did meanwhile other channels had regular programming on it was ridiculous well I'm gonna have to revise my my thinking of going along with you that McCain is gonna win definitely not This is a yeah, the fix is in here man. Well of course Barack Obama. I mean he's not He's gonna blow himself up. He's he does not have he's already pushing it He's getting more pictures of himself in fact on one of his official websites He's got himself looking into the air like Elvis on that second album. Yeah I'm telling you this is a setup man. This is not this is perfect orchestration, but he's everybody wants him to win

38:43 A couple of things that weren't pointed out, he's got this big thing in Berlin which looks like something Hitler would put together. But people don't realize there were two, it was a big rock concert. It was! But it was an American style rock concert. No, no, no, literally it was a rock concert. They had rock and roll bands preceding him which drew in the big crowd and they stuck around to listen to the speech. But it was set up for him, the bands were playing there, he was the main act. Those were just opening acts. I am not buying it. Yes! What do you mean you're not buying it? He was in England, I haven't seen the footage yet, but Patricia said, what the hell is this Barack Obama guy thinking? I said, what do you mean? He said, he stood out there outside 10 Downing Street saying, and I gotta get the footage on this, I'm sure it's all over YouTube, oh it's so happy to see you good English people and you know we Americans really love you English people. And she said, it's just disgusting. You English people. We love you English people.

39:39 I said, are you sure that's what he said? Yeah, you English people. I said, that doesn't sound right. But no, man, I think this is the thing. You know, he's also a Council of Foreign Relations guy. Yeah, I know he's part of the whole clique. He's just the same as the other guys. Exactly. Here's what bothers me. Just say that again. What did you just say? He's just one of the guys. He's just one of the guys, right? He's part of the setup, right? Part of the system. So let's go over his, you know, one of the things that bothers him. I'm getting ticked sick of the guy by the way. Okay. I think I'm tired of his rhetoric. I'm tired of watching him Here's what really bugs me. I don't his teleprompter thing is getting on my nerves. It is that I totally agree with that Yeah, he can't and I've been watching I've been studying it a little bit by the way he does

40:29 If you look at the, Huffington Post has become a big booster for him. And they have a posting of his transcript and I was listening to the speech actually just before you called on a word for word basis. That transcript of what his speech was, was obviously not what he said because there was all kinds of things in there that he changed. Really? And he either did it, people should know out there when you do teleprompter work and the way Obama works is as follows. He has two teleprompters, one on his extreme right and one on his extreme left, and he bobs his head back and forth and back and forth and never talks to anything but the teleprompter. Well that's how all of them do it though, John. I know, and it all looks like the same thing. He's looking over here and then he jerks his head over to the other side to make sure he doesn't lose his place on the other teleprompter, and then he starts talking there. Well he is right, the way I see it, he's a little bit

41:16 He's looking right most of the time, that's his strong prompter. So he is like looking at the right prompter, for his right, your left. Prompter most of the time, then he'll shoot to the left prompter and maybe give a couple of sentences, then pop back over to the right where he maintains the longest eye contact with that prompter. Now, I was interested to see how much he'd fall off-prompter. In other words, you know, drop a word or how would he recover. Yeah, skate around, I call it. Now, he does change his singular to plural a lot. And he also changed... Now, some of this you don't know if it's actually changed on the prompter and they kept the original transcript and distributed that to the media. Because often people should note this too. The media often will get a speech like this in advance of a speech.

42:08 And so if something's changed at the last minute, it will not show up in the transcript. And often a guy like Obama, who's a practice prompter user with this style of blah, blah, blah, it's a certain pacing. Dude, he's better than Katie Couric. Oh, absolutely. But who wouldn't be? Anyways, so anyway, the thing is he changes a lot of, for example, in one of his comments he changed He changes a lot of past tense to present tense. I'll read you what's in the transcript. He says, now's the time to build new bridges across the globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic. That's the original transcript. He changed bound to binds, either on the fly or in a fix, because most people who do work with a prompter will practice depending. Some people are lazy.

43:00 you just go cold and read the prompter but he doesn't have he really can't afford to do that. It's an important speech you know so whenever he's doing a speech he might as well read through it. He said nothing in this speech by the way but anyway so so he probably went over and then he changed stuff and he will have it changed on the prompter now he did blow a line let me find it okay cool can we hear the audio can you do that or we're not gonna do that. No I can't I can't it's too complicated but I will read No wonder no one will sponsor this show. It's too complicated. Hold on a second. Somebody's beeping me. Okay, here's the line as it was written in the transcript and you know this is what he meant to say. The poppies in Afghanistan become the heroin in Berlin. They had this clip on

43:52 on the BBC World Service. Okay, so what did he say? Well, instead of saying that, he obviously screwed up and read it wrong and he said, the poppies in Afghanistan come... From the heroin in Berlin? So instead of become, he says come... And then he has to go back and fix it. Then he has to recover either by backing up and saying, be calm, but he decides not to do that and he decides to go ahead with the sentence on an ad lib basis and he says, the papis in Afghanistan something like, comes, you know, and then he says, from Afghanistan, and it'd be back to, no, no, here it is, I got it, I got it, I got it. The papis in Afghanistan comes to Berlin.

44:38 to be heroin or something like that. But he changed, becomes the heroin in Berlin to comes and then he blows it and says to Berlin and I actually when you listen to it I thought the recovery was outstanding by the way. Well of course he's right you know the the US of course shipped the heroin directly to Berlin as we take away the poppies from the Afghanis Well, they're growing plenty of poppies. Yeah, of course they are. He did another one here, the only one that I think he blew, and I had to find it again, but he did blow one sentence where he used the same word twice in a funny, awkward way. But most of this stuff was... Just he didn't say anything, really.

45:21 Now he says you know this and that, you know, we're all buddies and... Didn't he say something about not in a new world order but bringing order to a new world? Didn't he? Someone told me he said something like that. That's what they're saying. The Sky TV is harping on this and I couldn't find any evidence of that bull. They're just looking for something. What they should have looked for is the fact that this thing is boring. And he said nothing. He said nothing and he kept throwing in stuff that was references to the wall and he made a bunch of metaphors about this being a wall and that being a wall and blah, blah, blah. I just thought the thing was, I thought the speech was weak. I mean it was just a bunch of bull. I mean there was nothing. I haven't heard it or seen it in its entirety. You know, everybody's a happy camper, you know, we're one great big world. There was a lot of internationalism in there, which I believe is where he's headed. Well of course. He likes, yeah. Of course. So he's part of the old neoliberal internationalist, you know, these guys who want one world government. Yeah, well isn't that the same as the neocons?

46:23 The neocons are a little different, but they're pretty much... They're a one world government. And didn't Sarkozy just create the... Oh man, that guy says some amazing shit. I gotta pull up those news stories for you. The president of France and the current president of the EU. So the French... So he changed a couple laws for France as well. last week and one of them is they've now started this database about every man, woman and child starting at 13 years of age and in it's going to be listed besides your usual name and address email addresses, telephone numbers, social groups you belong to and it's all public information John

47:05 you know, family relations, who you're related to, who you're distantly related to, and starts at 13 years of age they're starting to build this database. Oh, and if you've protested, what protests you've participated in, and it's called the, I should look it up actually, I have it around here somewhere, was really pretty amazing. I'm woefully unprepared for this one. Well, while you're talking about that, I'll give you my last two Obama commentaries. Okay. You know, being that this was a rock concert to begin with, if people want to listen to this thing, you listen to this speech right at the beginning. You know, the typical rock concert audience is a big yell and scream for about anything. Yay, yay, yay. So he got a huge round of applause for this line.

48:00 My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. And then they got a huge, yay, goats in Kenya, all right! You know, I mean, it's ridiculous. It was ridiculous. And he also made the blunder, you know that thing, as far as I, that was not a speech done at night, was it? No, I thought it was during the day, in the afternoon. Yeah, it was during the day. Why does he say, he says, we stand here tonight That's interesting. Yeah, who's he talking to? He's obviously not talking to the Berliners. Is he talking to CNBC or not CNBC but MSNBC or CNN? I mean, what's the deal? That would have been earlier. So that, I don't know. Although in Britain people do say, oh, I'm trying to think, what do they say? The evening, the afternoon is more like the evening. But I mean, he was in Berlin, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, he says tonight. Yeah, it's not what you English say. Yeah, us English. I can't find this article, John, I'm sorry.

47:05 you know, family relations, who you're related to, who you're distantly related to, and starts at 13 years of age they're starting to build this database. Oh, and if you've protested, what protests you've participated in, and it's called the, I should look it up actually, I have it around here somewhere, was really pretty amazing. I'm woefully unprepared for this one. Well, while you're talking about that, I'll give you my last two Obama commentaries. Okay. You know, being that this was a rock concert to begin with, if people want to listen to this thing, you listen to this speech right at the beginning. You know, the typical rock concert audience is a big yell and scream for about anything. Yay, yay, yay. So he got a huge round of applause for this line.

48:00 My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. And then they got a huge, yay, goats in Kenya, all right! You know, I mean, it's ridiculous. It was ridiculous. And he also made the blunder, you know that thing, as far as I, that was not a speech done at night, was it? No, I thought it was during the day, in the afternoon. Yeah, it was during the day. Why does he say, he says, we stand here tonight That's interesting. Yeah, who's he talking to? He's obviously not talking to the Berliners. Is he talking to CNBC or not CNBC but MSNBC or CNN? I mean, what's the deal? That would have been earlier. So that, I don't know. Although in Britain people do say, oh, I'm trying to think, what do they say? The evening, the afternoon is more like the evening. But I mean, he was in Berlin, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, he says tonight. Yeah, it's not what you English say. Yeah, us English. I can't find this article, John, I'm sorry.

49:04 Okay, well, but when I find that I will send it to you because I think it's highly bloggable. Yeah, and I'll blog it We got blogging that needs to be done By the way, Bubba Martin always does a... The other thing they got a lot of attention with, the right-wingers picked up on a couple of things. I think they screwed up on what to criticize him for. For one thing, this keeps cropping up in all the right-wing blogs. Has anybody ever listened to these speeches or followed them? I mean, or they just mowed off. And one of the things they're criticizing is Obama making the comment that, you know, factories in Boston and China are melting the ice caps.

49:40 And what he said was automobiles in Boston, or actually cars. He said cars in Boston and factories in China. Or Beijing, or wherever he said it. I have to look it up to get the specifics. But it was cars in Boston, not factories in Boston, because the joke is there are no factories in Boston. But how are the cars in Boston, you know, the cars in Boston, why do they have to be in Boston? I found the whole thing to be a peculiar phrase. I think the speech writer he has is a 26-year-old kid. I think he's burned out. Cars, I wonder what, there must be some significance to Boston. I don't know, why would he say it? It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But it was like, you know, you don't, cars in the world, I mean, it's not just cars in Boston anyway. Why is it cars in Boston specifically?

50:27 You know, I mean, all you guys trying to be, you know, here it is. As we speak, as we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing, there's no factories in Beijing, by the way, unless they're places that sell, you know, I don't, I've been to Beijing, the factories are out of town, let me tell you. Right, they're not in the city. None. But there are cars in Boston. Yes. Cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya. Death and destruction! We're all going to die! From cars in Boston. From cars in Boston. So I don't know what the point is. I think these guys are getting a little too... For example,

51:11 He's using Boston and Beijing, so he's using a little, you know, this kind of alliteration, they're trying to be poetic. B, B, melting ice, Arctic, Atlantic. So he's got melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking the coastlines in the Atlantic, A, A, and bringing drought from Kansas to Kenya, Kenya to Kenya. You know, I mean, it's all this hard, you know, Boston- From Bowie to Beijing. So I'm thinking, this is just ridiculous. No, I think it's a... look, whether you think I'm nuts or not, we do both agree they're turning up the heat on something. Yeah, somebody is turning... yeah, well that's probably true. By the way, here's another one he's got, another... he says, trained in Kandahar and Karachi, the two Ks. Alliteration, isn't that what it's called? Yeah, yeah, it's a bunch of alliteration, he's trying to, you know... Hip it up, man, like lyrics.

52:05 Well, it's the sucker of this audience, which is a bunch of rock fans that came to see whatever bands that were there. I can't find any reference to the two bands that supposedly played there before he spoke. I bet I could, I'm sure you can find it somewhere. Oh, maybe. Meanwhile, the other thing about Obama is he's making mistakes. And he's making weird false claims. Like he says he was part of the banking committee in the Senate that he's not. He's never been a part of that, has he? No, but he said he was when he was in Israel giving that speech and nobody called him on it. I mean, a few right-wing blogs mentions it, but nobody's calling. I mean, they're calling McCain on every stupid thing he says. He says Czechoslovakia once and everyone's all over, he doesn't even know there's no Czechoslovakia. Meanwhile, Obama's just out and out, you know, changing his resume. Now he's in the banking committee.

52:58 And the other one he had was that his relative, his uncle or somebody that he was related to helped liberate Auschwitz. He says this in one of his speeches. By the way, anyone out there who wants to check this, type in Obama, type in banking committee and Google, or then type in Obama and Auschwitz. Unless the guy was a Russian. Well, wait a minute, what was it? Which was liberated by the Russians. But his uncle on his dad's side or his mom's side? I can't remember. Because if it was on his dad's side then he was a goat herder in... No, but it had to be his mom's side obviously. Okay. Unless they were goat herders that were liberating Auschwitz, I don't think so. But... So it'd be his mom's side.

53:38 Well, I mean, I can see, you know, Mike... But he's like making it up as he goes along, then nobody seems to... You know, I don't need... I mean, it's bad enough that we have liars that are politicians, but I think you should maybe push it off until after you maybe get elected before you start really just ad-libbing your own background. But it's easy because no one calls him out on it, because there's no... No one calls him out on it. Simple enough. Well, I mean, actually, let me rephrase that. Of course there's people who call him out on it, but there's no groundswell of mainstream blanket coverage which you just have to have. If you need to get a message out, it has to be on every single network news, it has to be repeated a million times on CNBC and MSNBC and CNN, and it has to be repeated over and over and over again, and it lasts for 24 hours, and then we move on to the next thing we need people to understand.

54:28 That's how it works. I'm very disappointed in the mainstream media for being, you know, essentially boosters for one guy. Duh! Well, who owns the mainstream media, John? Well, that's the point. That's what makes it weird. It's like, why is MSNBC is actually THE Obama station? You know, I've been looking for something, you know, make sure, you know, New Obama or make sure that the news about Obama gets you know something I mean there's a way of putting it you'd some little dream up MSNBC stands for anyway why? MSNBC is owned by General Electric, so why are they? Because you know he is a player. He's supposed to get in it's it's that you know McCain ain't gonna hack it

55:15 So they need a guy in there, this guy's perfect. It doesn't matter if he's Republican or Democrat, they just need a guy. He's a perfect robot. He's perfect, he's good looking, he's young, he's got stamina, he was a member of the banking committee. This guy is absolutely perfect for the job. I mean he voted for FISA, he's changed his entire view on Iraq, you know we'll still have 75,000 troops in there after 16 months. You know, the same thing with the Rockstar and the banking committee stuff. He's also voting the way he'll vote. This is what we're going to see only times 10 because he's a member of the group, he's a member of the Klan, he's in the system. They don't care.

56:05 Yeah, well I mean the problem I can't argue against this because I don't have any evidence that your tripod theory is wrong. Except for the fact that I mean all the evidence says you're right. Because why is General Electric, you know, promoting this guy to such an extreme? Because... well okay, so I just went through that rant. But I think that's the simple answer. Again, we all know what you think. I've already censored myself. It could be that General Electric is just stupid. Is that possible? No. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, so it's General Electric, it's Viacom, and it's Sky. You know, how many more... Well, Sky isn't Sky owned by Murdoch? Murdoch's against this guy, isn't he? Yeah. No, he's not against this guy. Are you kidding me?

56:57 I mean, I'll watch some Sky tonight. I'll watch Sky News and see how they portray it. Well, you know, Murdock goes Fox, Fox is, you know, usually jumping on this character. You watch. I mean, you should pay... let's watch some Fox News. I guarantee you that, you know, he's the man. They're getting him in, doing whatever... Or, there's some horrible theories about... I mean, in fact, I don't want to talk about the theories about Obama. Well... They don't end well for him. Let's put it that way. Well, there's that issue, but you know, both these guys are at risk. uh... just being really are you know they are mccain if you give two years of the office will be a miracle and uh... it'll be you know i think i certainly everyone hounds him about his old which is that i can understand where the liberals are coming from with this because they're the ones who come up with all this you know we can have sexism we can have ages and everything other criticism of mccain is all based on ridiculous you know ages and of the worst stereotype

57:57 you know, variety. I mean it's like we're talking and we're talking from liberals here who are all, oh it's a stereotype, you can't you say that it's a stereotype. Meanwhile these guys are stereotyping McCain. They're ageists. It's ridiculous that they're doing this and they can do it with a straight face. I've lost respect for the liberal community. That was a word, that was a really good word I read in Financial Times today. I'm trying to figure out what, I thought it was a part of maybe an Obama story. I can't find it now. What I did find in the Financial Times, you'll love this. You remember EMI got bought by a big hedge fund? Right.

58:42 Greg Hammond is a... I forgot, was it KKR? No, Terra Firma. Terra Firma, UK based firm. And so this has been in the news for quite a while. They bought it for 4 billion pounds, John. 8 billion dollars. Seems like a lot. Yeah, well of course it's a lot. But you know, part of the of the gem of of the e-mail has always been uh... their back catalogs they got a lot of great back catalog including i think uh... bowie i think they had a fifty million dollar bond or whatever that they wrote out to him anyway uh... so greg hand is you know and and and a guy who has no experience in the entertainment business he's running this hedge fund that he's running uh... you're mine now and today on the sixty fifth birthday of mc jagger the rolling stones announced they are quitting e m i

59:31 And they are leaving to Universal and they're taking their entire back catalog post-1971 with them. I would say these guys are fucked. Well... They probably need to do a better deal with the Rolling Stones, that's for sure. Well, that's exactly what got them into trouble in the first place, is doing all these sweet deals with everybody that just don't pay off. You watch, EMI is going to fall over, roll over dead, and that's just the beginning of the end for the mainstream music industry. industry which is all a man piracy well the I'm sure you read about the six UK is peas who've all agreed to participate in the three strikes you're out program

1:00:18 in the UK? I think we may have blogged it. You must have blogged it. Yeah, you must have blogged it. But give us background on it. Okay, quick background. This is purely about peer-to-peer by the way and not about just casual web browsing. It's purely about peer-to-peer and so the main initiative here is the record companies, the music industry and the motion picture industry as well will be sitting out on trackers. They get an IP address. They will then contact the ISP and then so what they haven't decided yet is which route will be taken. Either A, the ISP sends a note and does not disclose the information to the record company or B, they do disclose the information to the record company. So there's a like a QFA. Is that what it is?

1:01:08 I don't know. You know, like a proposal is out there. So the industry is now, you know, deciding what that's going to be. They have until, I think, October. And then the, and then what's now also open, you know, officially open for discussion, which will become law, this is a governmental decision that's being made here, is how they'll combat it. And so one is, you know, they get a warning. The next one is, they'll be put on a blacklist that is distributed to all ISPs. well and the next one is installing filtering software to actually you know uh... make uh... content non downloadable so of course is just a start but it's the start of a a lot of crap i'm sure and uh... and so i was reading to these documents on the government website and how they talk about you know and and they got this guy from the who used to be in the undertones his name is fearful sharky who had one hit they go one hit wonder called a good heart is

1:02:07 hard to find. And he's running this whole thing, he's like one of those typical washed up pop stars that had to get a gig and he winds up in the administration of some kind of royalty based organization for the mob. And he's saying like, you know, well, the British creative community is suffering. And like, what a bunch of crock. You know, the British creative... A bunch of croc? Yeah, the British creative community is suffering. Let me write down that usage. How are they suffering, did he say? Well yeah, because... They can only buy one limo or they can only use a private jet once a week? Currently as it stands, most musicians don't make more than five thousand pounds a year. And this is horrible. So if we don't get these people more money,

1:02:57 If we don't make people buy their stuff, then the creative community will disappear. We'll have no more creative community. These are the words he's using. People aren't creative, they're only in it for money. That's what he said. You're right, that's exactly what I was going to say. You beat me. It's like, yeah, the creative community, the artists of the world who are notoriously starving to death. Yes, dying. They're only in it for the money. Yeah, I'm an artist in a loft in New York doing an oil painting because I'm in it for the money. Exactly. I've never sold any. That's like Rembrandt, Van Gogh. Those guys were totally in it for the fucking money. Actually, Rembrandt may have been, but not Van Gogh. But just read those words. It's like, wow, that's pretty heavy duty stuff.

1:03:41 Well, that's because if you're a foot doctor, you see everything as a foot. Yeah, true. And these guys are in it, the guys who are making these comments are in it for the money, so they think that artists and everybody else who does anything for any reason whatsoever, for love or because they think it's fun or they feel they have a service. Or a message to communicate. Whatever. No, it's all for the money. Nobody does anything, because of you, the person making the comments, you do everything for money, because you're a money-grubbing jerk-off, so therefore everybody's like you. I mean, this is like this kind of self-centered way of seeing the world. Bunch of crock. Bunch of crock. Now it's on the lexicon. It's a bunch of crock. You never heard that? My mom used to say that.

1:04:31 She used to say bunch of crock? Oh what a bunch of crock. Wow I never heard that ever. Instead of a crock of? Yeah crock of. So you might dad or mom or my mom used to say. We used to have a crock. And we made the. You used to say it's a crock of crap or just it's a crock. Which would imply it was a crock of crap. A bunch of crock. A bunch of crock. Speaking of my mom, so I stayed overnight Friday night at Bob's house. That was her second husband. And you know, they've been together 15 years or something like that. So yeah, of course I knew Bob, but he's not like really, you know, the official family, but then he really is family. And so it's now been two years since my mom passed. So I was like, oh, you know, go hang out with Bob and see how he's doing.

1:05:21 And so, the house is very much, you know, my mom's stuff is all still in there and she had a huge Wedgwood collection, you know, really beautiful, all color coordinated and so he still has all that up. But he has kind of transformed into a guy pad. He's put in a big widescreen and he's got, you know, his... First thing a guy does. Yeah, of course. He's got his Dolby 5.1 surround sound with 18 speakers hidden throughout the entire living room. And he's like, and you know, because I don't really know what our common ground is. And he's like, yeah, let me show you some DVDs, because he's really into gadgets now. And he's 65. He's almost 65. He'll be 65 in October. And so he pulls out, you know, all these music concert DVDs. So like, here, let's check this one out from the Eagles. And I'm like, eh, the Eagles are kind of boring. You've got to listen to how this guitar, how the guy plays. So it was actually a pretty good piece. But then he pulls out Roger Waters, who I've never ever been into.

1:06:15 Pink Floyd's, you know, like Money and some of the hits, like, because I've always been in a top 40 hit radio and I just kind of listen to the chorus. It doesn't have a hook, you know. All right, you know, I can pick a hit pretty much. But this one had subtitles on the DVD. And man, the shit that Pink Floyd and Roger Waters... It's really, really politically motivated. Yeah, well that was that era. Yeah, I know, but I've never really... Even the words of like, Time or Money, you know, you think you know what you're singing, but you don't actually know what they're singing. And now they had the subtitles. Man, it was exactly what's going on now. It was so... It fit right into these times. Yeah, well, you know...

1:06:59 What can I say? You can say I was there the first time, son. I actually saw Pink Floyd in their first American tour. How was it? Were you into what they were talking about or just into LSD? You couldn't understand a word they said. It was the music. The subtitles. That's what you needed, man. Yeah, but everybody was thinking along those lines back then. But the thing that was cool about Pink Floyd when they first showed up and they did a gig in Marin County right off the bat at some special venue. It was some weird hall and they had rigged it so they had speakers in a complete circle around the entire group. So when they would play something they could have the

1:07:41 the sound go around in a circle and spin it around. There was a bunch of these guys. Grateful Dead used to use standing waves to get that weird effect, and Jimi Hendrix used to have a bunch of things flapping across the screen. He invented the wah-wah pedal. These guys are into pretty aggressive, new sounding things. That's deteriorated back to what it was in the 50s. Well now we have MP3s. And that was another thing I noticed. I'm like, wow, am I really starving my brain of good music when you'll just listen to MP3s? I mean, that's a bunch of crock right there. When you hear something on Dolby 5.1 surround, like what the hell am I doing listening to MP3s on a freaking iPod with earbuds? I mean, this is lame.

1:08:28 I, boy that, you know, I've been thinking that for the last couple of years. Because I see people roaming around, for one thing the earbuds thing, they stick these things in their ears and they're by the way injecting sound directly to the eardrum. It's not good for you. It's not good, no. In fact that Mevio, I'm sitting next to a guy who has, I'm not going to name who it is, but he's got his sound up so loud that I can hear what he's listening to. Oh that's Greg. And he's got these things stuck in his ear. That's Greg, Greg Mand. It's gonna be death. Is that Greg seriously? No, it's not gonna say Anyway, so but the point is everybody does it they got these things stuck in their ears and they're walking around town usually and they're oblivious to everything else going around and they walk in front of you I was

1:09:12 bump into you know there's a you know in the end it was just all about that but I don't care about that what I care about is the quality of the year I mean oh you know let me so much yeah I agree in fact I remember big old-fashioned speaker guy myself and I've got like these huge you know doll quits old ones I know the DQ tens hooked up with some subwoofers from you know and I did it all and you crank it up and you get an experience that you get at either a concert or at a symphony hall or something like that, as opposed to sticking these things in your ears and getting limited fidelity. I don't care how good they are. And it's just uncomfortable. You can't move around the sound. I mean, the sound is stuck in a fixed position, so if you walk around, it doesn't change. And I don't like it. But nobody has speakers anymore. Nobody bothers.

1:10:03 Yeah, well I think it's a shame because and and it was really it was just rubbed right into my face You know because he had the subwoofers he had the the tweeters and right you know a tuned man like and he made me sit in a certain spot on the couch you know he's tuned this experience and you know HDMI HD I mean, you know, he's like a 1080. Well, I don't know what I've lost track of all this shit, but I'm looking at it So I've got this great picture. I've got this sound that is just going through me and You know, and I'm like, and it was a really good experience. I'm like, wow, I'm really, really depriving myself of so much by listening to so much music on crappy MP3. What an endorsement for CDs right there to go out and buy the actual product if people would sell the benefit of really hearing the music, really hearing it. And feeling it. Yeah.

1:10:50 Feeling it, hearing it. Because you feel those bass notes, they hit your solar plexus and your body shakes. Yeah, and that shit's tuned. And that's why music works, because it's supposed to not just go through the ears. I mean, a lot of the resonances and the harmonies and stuff of basic music is, you know, certainly the Pink Floyd stuff, I'm sure they thought about that and tuned it to certain frequencies that the human body reacts to or whatever. Those guys were into that. Well I'm glad you've got the wherewithal to put together a nice sound system. I've got a pretty good sound system here. Yeah, but you listen to earbuds anyway? Typically, even this show, because sometimes, actually knock on wood, but we've had great connection, but whenever I listen to something I put it on the big speakers here.

1:11:42 Yeah, it's really important. I can't do a mix with headphones. Do I listen to earbuds? Yeah, but typically it's talk, you know, it's podcast or it's maybe an audio book or something like that. But even in the car, I was listening to a couple of interviews and I bought one of those Nokia charger transmitter jobbies so I can just put it on the car radio and I listen to it over the car radio. Much more enjoyable. Yeah, I think so. Although I'd hate to have to listen to music through the mp3 through a nokia transmitter nokia by the way not necessarily known for uh, their radio transmitters or their processing I don't know. I don't use that technology. I

1:12:27 I sound like, I'm always gonna get some jerk that listens to this show commenting the following. Some jerk? Yeah, he lives in the 18th century, still uses CDs. What are you worried for? What are you worried about people when they think of you? I'm just saying, I'm just making the comment that people will criticize me for the simple reason that I still, when I have a bunch of stuff I want to listen to, I'll burn it on a disc and throw it in the car CD player. Much better, it's much better. and then pop you know when i wanted i'll pop it up yeah i didn't have any cds with me otherwise i would have burned the shit on the cd i really would have

1:13:04 Yeah, and you can see these nowadays are 15 to 20 cents a piece. Yeah, it's not you know And I think that usually when I travel I usually burn a couple CDs before I go but I tend to more recently be listening mostly to long lectures about stuff, but I'll burn a few CDs and then I'll and I'll and I used to always make the mistake years ago I'd have a CD I go travel I'd be in Vegas and I have a special CD that I wanted to listen to on there and Then in the rental card forget it leave it behind now. I'm leaving it behind on purpose. Yeah What do I need it for? I got just 20 cents, 15 cents, you know what it is, I lost 15 cents. Yeah, whatever. Because otherwise you just wind up with a bag full of old CDs. Yeah, no, the CDs need, you gotta get them out of here. You gotta get rid of them, you gotta get rid of it, you gotta write something on it so you know what it is and then toss it out. Right, and the funny thing is, I'm with you on this 100%, and the funny thing is, if you wanted to ever listen to it again, you can download it again.

1:14:01 You know, it's not like you're gonna never hear it again. So the only thing I'm disappointed about during this week's program, John, is that you're not... I'm kinda disappointed you're skeptical about the results of my booster. You should be, like, interested and happy. I'm gonna look into it. Okay. If you got 30% better gas mileage. 29% better gas mileage. And you can duplicate that effort, you know, and the engine doesn't rust out from the inside out. Well that of course, I don't know, I mean the engine could blow up, this thing could explode, I mean anything could happen, but it is working. It really is working. And also, temperature will make a difference, you know, so right now it's warm, I have no idea what it'll do if it's colder, I mean, I haven't even considered what if it freezes, I mean, I got water in a PVC thing, isn't that gonna freeze and crack? I mean, I haven't thought about any of this yet.

1:14:53 Well, you'll find out as it goes along, but it seems to me, I was, years and years ago, I knew this guy was an automotive engineer and he invented all kinds of weird stuff. And he says, you know, the problem is with the industry, generally speaking, if there's a new breakthrough technology, there's too much work to tool it up. I mean, to get every new idea implemented is just, they can't do it. And I mean, it was a miracle that hybrid cars ever came out. Toyota's pretty aggressive with their stuff. I heard a, I'm sorry. But anyway, I was just going to say, it's possible that some of these things that some people invented and they show it works, nobody cares. But it could well be a great product. I think you're right there. Nobody really cares. You know who cares? Truckers care. Because these guys are developing these huge, like, they'll do

1:15:39 a hundred liters of gas per hour that they'll produce and they're building them for these diesel truckers. Because these guys, you know, for them, you're spending 50 grand a month on fuel, you know, hey, it ain't too bad if you can reduce that by 25 or 30 percent. So at scale, you know, there's a lot of people very interested in this and these guys are building stuff. I'll look into it. I'm skeptical, but I'm skeptical about everything, but I'll look into it. It just seems to me that when you start talking about, you know, essentially when the guy's building a hydroxy, whatever the hell it's called, or a booster, one minute and talking about, you know, zero point energy, which, or whatever that's called, which is just total crap. How do you don't know? You're not a physicist. I talk to any physicist who does know.

1:16:29 Well, I haven't done that. All I know is I got better mileage. I got better mileage, that's all I know. And I'm like, you know, and I was pretty much convinced it would happen anyway. And I drove everything on cruise control, so it, you know, but you know, road and weather conditions vary, but at the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put less gas in than in my benchmark. You know, there was literally less petrol I could put into the tank. Now it's only a couple of liters. But it's still a couple of years. It makes a big deal at those prices. You know, it's 20 bucks a pop or whatever you know you're probably saving. Well just keep doing it and give us a report every week and I'll look into it in the meantime and see what it looks like in so far as there must be somebody that's done the math. Well the next step is they're going to give me a little box and it has two knobs on it and I got to connect that to the computer.

1:17:20 because the car has a chip obviously and it's adjusting stuff so you can actually lean your mixture electronically so I should be able to get even better fuel consumption out of it. Well you might be able to get better fuel consumption just by tweaking the computer anyway. Well I'm sure. So these guys did tell me an interesting story which I thought was just kind of funny because you know as far as we know no one has tried this at least not in the the Benelux on an injection engine. So you know, these guys got old Volvos and you know, crazy-ass station cars and stuff that's just old, right? So here I come and I've got an injection engine. So these are carbureted engines, mostly? Yes, yes, exactly. So this was the first injection system with a chip. And so we get to talking about the, and of course these guys are, you know, they're off the wall.

1:18:11 And we get to talking about injection systems. Oh man, they say this is great. So they developed this apparently around 1971 or 1972 and everyone needed to have an injection engine and injection was fantastic but actually they said that of every single car that got an injection engine, certainly the early ones, the actual mileage went down because they were incredibly inefficient and actually are blowing fuel in there or were blowing fuel in there at points in the cycle that would not even ignite. That they were, that they actually was just a, you know, of course a conspiracy, but they were, you know, the injection engine came out just to get people to spend more on fuel.

1:18:55 And now that I think about it, I'm like, you know, I really don't know if an injection engine, what it is for other than it looks great on the back of your trunk, you know, injection. Yeah, but think about it. I know about injection engines. And the reason for them is because you can meter the fuel into each cylinder individually. It's not like a carburetor, which you got a bunch of gas going in, gets vaporized with, you know, by being mixed with air as it sucks through the, through the manifold and then it gets distributed in a kind of a haphazard way. And so it's an inefficient device. I mean, unless you have a bunch of them, one for each cylinder, then you damn near have an injection system. I'm not buying this at all. I mean, yeah, early injectors were like designed to just pump a quick

1:19:41 crap load of fuel is anything. But I'm talking, the modern fuel injector is an extremely efficient, the only reason we have great gas mileage on these cars is because of these injectors. The only reason we have a horsepower to, you know, cubic inch ratio as high as it is is because of injectors. Right, but that all depends on how it's tweaked. And what your chip is doing. Well you tweak it, generally speaking the problem with the chips is they're tweaking it to meet emission requirements more than they are for performance. That's true. Anyway, a lot of fun stuff going on out there. Oh yeah, Planet X is coming, Niburu's here and we're all gonna die. Oh yeah, Planet X. Now that one I've always gotten a kick out of. Yeah, I'm not into the Planet X stuff. I don't think that's, that doesn't sound right to me.

1:20:34 Planet X. But, but, yeah. Bases on the moon? Yeah, we got those. Bases on the moon. Park it, we got parking spots up there, man. Well that's the reason we're going, you know, if I want to play that game. I still like that. I prefer the we've never been to the moon thing. It's more fun. No, no, no. This one's better. I can play this one better now. Well, the fact that, okay, we can go with this theory, though, whether we have bases on the moon or whether we have never been to the moon, and we can still make the following argument. China's decided they want to go to the moon. So now we want to go to the moon again.

1:21:14 And the only reason we want to shoot up there again is to keep China from either finding the bases on the moon or so we can place those artifacts that we claim to have left the first time. I think what, you know, first of all, the world is shooting rockets up into space a lot. With the European Space Agency, NASA, you know, there's a lot going up there. And no one ever really questions the experiments that they're doing. Because do you ever hear about what they're actually doing up there, John? It's mostly growing insects it seems to me, or seeing if they can melt. Right, so let's feed the world and not spend 10 billion a year on NASA if they're just growing insects. So of course they're not, you know, so the theory is that they're pooping out rocket ships once they're up in orbit and then those rocket ships go off to our bases on the moon and Mars. Yeah, no one's ever going to discover that. Well, they didn't discover the fourth astronaut.

1:22:13 Yeah, I'm telling you man. There's a lot out there, and it's okay because it makes me feel happy It's better than fucking television. It's much more entertaining about the new movie. Yeah, I'm down with that so the X-Files Oh that was it you said that the other day And I had to have to give you cred for that you said maybe all this Larry King stuff is just one big promotion You know so Larry King is doing a lot of UFO Shows in the past couple weeks, and you said it might be a big PR job and blow and behold the X-Files is coming out this week Yeah, now watch watch about a month from now. You will hear nothing about UFOs. We're not all this stuff We'll just go we'll track it. We'll track or we get the big one we get the big holographic

1:22:57 invasion that says no no give us all your guns involved so unless there's another movie about you know something similar coming out you have to check you know we need a subscription of variety so we can see what the schedule looks like I think there's some websites that you know there's another big budget tentpole sci-fi movie that involves can they get any bigger than X-Files and they'll take the same images and will they'll use the the holographic projector that they use for the 9-11 planes and then they'll just project those images or versions of them and we'll all get freaked out, we'll surrender our guns and then the depopulization can begin. So the reviews on the X-Files movie are mixed. Oh really? I mean it'll come out I think in another week here. Yeah but it's been seen and it's mixed.

1:23:49 Some people think it's a sleazy, it's got nothing to do with aliens, it turns out it's mostly to do with mind control or psychic abilities or something. But it looks like a lot of people are very disappointed in it. Really? Yeah. Mind control as in we can use our brains? I don't know what the story line is. Are you going to go see it? I'm just saying. You should go see it. Why don't you go see it? I'm not going to see it. No, I'm going to go see it. I'm going to go see it. I'm going to rent it, maybe, or see it on HBO. Which reminds me, this is another topic I just thought about. I'm watching what used to be Siskel and Ebert that became Ebert and Roper. And then of course Ebert is recovering from various ailments so he's never on the show anymore. So now it's what and Roper?

1:24:35 And now it's this new guy from the Chicago Tribune or whoever he is who's actually pretty good. And the two guys argue and moan and bitch and gripe at each other as the old original show did. But they've dropped the two thumbs up to make it, you know, see it, rent it, or skip it, which is exactly what I was doing when I was at CNET in the mid-90s with a buy it, something and then skip it, something like that. We have the same three categories, but the thing about this new category, see it, rent it, or skip it, it's like why would you give up a franchise of the thumbs up? Thumbs up, thumbs down, yeah. Thumbs up, thumbs down, because it got all kinds of attention, thumbs up, two thumbs up, which the best thing a movie could receive was two thumbs up, which would be the two guys agreeing.

1:25:27 Now they, now what are they going to say? It's the two see-its. Skip it. That's two... Doesn't even sound good. Skip it says Roper. See it says Roger. Oh no. Ramper. It's bad. I mean what, why do you give up? It's like one of the greatest franchises in modern television history. The thumbs up, two thumbs up and then they throw it away because somebody's got a hair up their ass? I'd have to say then it's probably because, for that very reason, you know, so now they basically can never see Never again will it be, this is a movie I'm not gonna wanna see because it got two thumbs down. Because you're right, there never will be a two skippets.

1:26:03 So, there's just no negative. There's just no negative. It also, right, and they've also watered down the whole procedure by adding a third category of rented, which sounds like a sellout category. But they can use that later. But they can use that when a DVD comes out on, when it comes out on DVD, then they can use their quotes again. Roper says, rent it! Right, it's a scam. Yeah, sellout, you're right, it's a sellout. Unlike this show where we'll whore for anything. Just give us a money. Nobody cares. Nobody wants us I've got a McDonald's cup of coffee in front of me John. Oh god All right, man. What do you say should we wrap it up on a high note here?

1:26:47 Yeah, I got one high note. My stepson Eric has developed a very interesting product which he's been stalling on me saying anything about. Oh, okay. But anyone who's a Craigslist user out there and they want to look at more than one Craig, it took a while for him to make this work because Craig and Craigslist do not like anyone doing this, but he's finally gamed it enough that it works. And it's called Craigsfinder, it's C-R-A-I-G-S-F-I-N-D-E-R. F-I-N-D-R, in the Web 2.0 sense, Craig's Finder with an R instead of E-R, dot com, and it lets you search all the Craigslists all over the United States, I think probably Europe too, by just putting checklists, and then you put your search in there and it goes and looks at all of them. Wow, that's pretty cool. It is pretty cool. And it's Ajax, the whole thing. It's actually not a bad product.

1:27:41 SupportCraigsFinder.com a donation a day keeps the ads away. Oh look he took it from his dad didn't he? One time donation two bucks recurring two dollars per month donation. Maybe he can do that, more of a Leo Laporte type of thing. I'm just looking at your stepson's business model here if you don't mind. Can I just browse multiple servers? Yes it's coming. How do I search the entire US? It's coming. donate why you can actually search the entire US but you have to click on every one of the things you do is no one click the entire US so if I'm looking for a tinfoil hat for sale I would check New York Los Angeles and Chicago oh I see error please select one or more craigslist servers okay I have to do the servers oh okay that's cool so it just pops out oh I see what you mean there's no there's no check all

1:28:38 right which i think would be a bad thing because then you basically have a mega correct the another product i would the promise i've used this thing a number of times if you check you if you check more in five or six servers you get a list that's too big to be a year because it's a bit the system is very but you know it likes to be uh... this program okra is this is a big deal special some areas like san francisco bay area that's pretty much half of it right as cool it is very web wavy two point oh i like that the interface as pretty cool Craig's Finder. This is one of those labors of love that you do for yourself because you wanted to check a few... Anyway, he did it, this is taking about a year or two and he said he started doing it, then he got blocked. And so, you know, from Craig, he's like, okay, I'd be doing this. And so they would find his IP and they would stop him. And so now he goes through some, you know, apparently there's no two... Every one of those things is coming off some different IP and it's rotating in such a way that... I found a bug. I found a bug. You might want to tell him.

1:29:39 So I'm running Safari on the Mac and when I'm typing in the search box, if I hit the P, then the region thing slides open. And if I hit the P again, it closes. I'm not sure that he's ever tested it on Safari. Maybe he should. Okay. Because you're the only guy I know that's ever used Safari. I like it because it's got the webkit. It's fast. It's really, really fast. Hey, this is cool. It works. I got everything from Atlanta, Phoenix, nice. Oh, tinfoil hats? Well, I couldn't do tinfoil hat. Tinfoil hat, or I did it, but it didn't show up. I did just house. I tried to do apartment, that's how I figured out the P was buggy. Alright, doesn't matter. Very cool. And then, please, I tried earlier, but let me promote Bubba Martin's show notes, which will appear once the show is posted.

1:30:33 And we thank the lovely Skype Corporation for hanging in there today. Yeah, it was beautiful. Yeah. Are you doing Twit? I believe so. I didn't do it last week though. No, I didn't like last week's show. Not that just because you weren't on it, but it's just like, I don't know, just... What was it about? I didn't even listen to it. Oh, I can't remember now. Yeah. But it wasn't something I just... It was like different people or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, every once in a while Leo likes to, you know, test people, I guess. I don't know what he... But it is good for Diversity it's good to you don't need to be way and I don't need to be listened to on a weekly basis like you know week after week I you know I come in I moan and groan about the show moving too slow and that's kind of my thing yeah, and and everyone changes the topic and you know I'm you know I think I think I wear out my welcome. I love you, honey All right good do we have a title Yeah, hydroxy booster. Okay, okay excellent. Oh

1:31:38 hydroxy booster it is. That'll get attention. I'm sorry? I said that'll get attention. Somebody sees that on the thing and besides that it's good for search engines. All right, coming to you from the United Kingdom, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm John C. Dvorak from Northern California. And we'll talk again next week, right here on No Agenda.