Episode 399 · Thursday, 12 April 2012

Hip-Check China

Geopolitical maneuvering in Syria and Burma meets domestic unrest in Florida as the administrative state expands its reach through energy apps and national cell phone databases.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 399

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Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman appeared on the Syrian border this week to demand a no-fly zone and the arming of the Free Syrian Army. This push for military intervention coincides with Turkey considering a buffer zone that could trigger NATO Article 5. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is leveraging the Burmese democracy movement to secure Western oil interests against Chinese influence.

In Florida, George Zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges for the death of Trayvon Martin, a legal move that Attorney General Eric Holder addressed before the National Action Network. Domestically, the Department of Energy launched the Apps for Energy challenge under Secretary Steven Chu, while the FBI replaced Osama bin Laden on the Most Wanted list with former teacher Eric Justin Toth. In Europe, Spain banned cash transactions over 2,500 euros, and Greece opened closed hospitality centers for refugees as Goldman Sachs sponsored 60 Minutes reports on the debt crisis.

This 399th episode features formal knighting ceremonies for Sir David Rudolf Bucker and Dame Cathy Siminich as the show approaches its milestone 400th broadcast. The hosts sample vegan snacks from Healthy Surprise, including a contentious review of kale chips, while tracking a mysterious self-updating Monsanto activity book discovered in a listener Dropbox folder.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

Rain Catchment Systems and Agenda 21 Concerns

The hosts discuss the legality and utility of rain catchment systems in Austin, Texas, and Denver, Colorado. Plans are mentioned for a new "Camp MoFo" facility featuring solar power, windmills, and independent water purification. Concerns are raised regarding the implementation of Agenda 21 and its impact on private property and lifestyle.

rain catch systems· camp mofo· agenda 21· austin· water purification

00:00 We are happy no agenda slaves. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, April 12th, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 3-Niner-Niner. This is no agenda. Self-diagnosing my pervasive developmental disorder here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. That's easy for you to say and from Northern Silicon Valley where it was raining cats and dogs and we've got a dog in the house. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Okay, you've always had a dog in the house.

00:41 Well, this one came in from out of the rain, from the rain. It was raining cats and dogs. Free animals. Oh, I see. I'm sorry. I didn't understand the joke. Got it. Got it. It wasn't much of a joke. Yeah. It's bad weather out there, huh? Well, last night. Geez. Yeah. I think it must be some flooding around here after that. Squall. Yeah, we've got a little bit of cloud today. That means it's rain. It's raining cats and dogs. We get a few gerbils. Well, put up a cistern. What you know get a tank? I've been looking into these these rings. These are illegal in Denver. No no they're very legal here these rain catch systems Oh, man. Oh, they're great does anyone use them tons of people yeah, and you got you know It's on-demand purification systems, and you can drink it you can do anything you want it's really it's pretty cool People are way into it here. You got to get me one of those

01:40 In fact, I think I hate to say it, but if we're fortunate enough to be able to build a new Camp MoFo... I want the full spectrum, man. I want a windmill. I want solar. I want a nuke. Yeah, because you know, I don't know if you noticed it, but the Agenda 21 stuff is really kicking in, man. Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, don't go by that man's house. He's crazy. Jenny, no, Jenny, Jenny. Mommy, I just want to see inside. Nah, it won't be hard. It'll be all glass. Look in there. They don't wear clothes. They're from some foreign country. They don't wear clothes? No, seriously, this is... Did you hear this? Did you know that British Columbia already has the carbon tax?

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

British Columbia Carbon Tax and CO2 Science

British Columbia has implemented a carbon tax of $50 per ton of CO2, adding approximately 12 cents per liter to gasoline prices. A debate ensues regarding the scientific claim that one liter of gasoline can produce 2.34 kilograms of CO2, noting that the weight increase comes from oxygen in the air during combustion. The tax is characterized as a "tax grab" despite claims of revenue neutrality.

british columbia· carbon tax· co2 emissions· gasoline· vancouver

02:32 It does? Yeah, check this report out. And this is all Agenda 21 stuff. And the report is a complete... And if you don't know what Agenda 21 is, you've got to Google that. Consult the Book of Knowledge. Yeah, this is the show more. Yeah, really. Where have you been? Welcome. The whole report is making you feel good about carbon taxes. It's well just listen to it. You can blame in part some made in BC levies Including at five and a half cents a liter the carbon tax Vahram Dagestani feels the impact filling up his car and paying the bills for his trucking company That hurts us a lot. You know every cent counts when you're small business owner in Canada you know you're trying to save dollars, but

03:17 Taxes are taxes, there's no way of getting it. They'll get us some way, one way or another, right? You guys slave? Though even at the pumps, it's not hard to find people who say it's a good tax. It's supposed to be our duty as citizens to support the environment. Hey, citizens, hold on a second. Hey, citizens, support the environment. Things like that, so I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. The provincial Liberals introduced it to encourage people to use less gas. We promised you green and today we deliver green. I will. We promised you green. The opposition NDP wanted to ax the tax, but they lost the election. And now, more than two years after it came into effect... Do we know, has the carbon tax at the pumps had an impact?

04:01 Well, we think it has. Our preliminary figures show that in fact the fuel use per capita here in British Columbia has fallen compared to other regions across Canada. You see, the way I see it, John... Because you're going broke, you idiot! Exactly! So I looked this up, the... Yeah, we're in a full depression so the gasoline usage has gone way down. That's a good thing. It's good. So, the Green Party, British Columbia, their current pricing is $50 per ton of CO2 emissions. And I looked at their FAQ. Why $50? Well, $50 because $50 is the tax on something that produces one ton of CO2 emissions. One liter of gas produces 2.34 kilograms of CO2. So $50 per ton adds about 12 cents to the pump price per liter, even though we just heard five a second ago. Give me that calculation again. One liter of gas. That's petrol in this case, but gasoline.

05:03 produces 2.34 kilograms of CO2. How does that work? That's not right. No, it can't be because one liter is one kilo. How can a liter is not a kilo? Yes, it is. No, no, yes, it is. This is a volumetric amount. It's not a weight amount. One liter of gasoline. Well, let's find out. Consult the book of knowledge. One liter of gasoline weighs equals I'm going to find out. How many kilograms? I think it's one, dude. No, it's not one dude. Dude, 0.71, 0.7. Liter of gasoline weighs 0.76 kilograms. Yeah. So it's almost, almost, almost a, so how can it produce 2.3 kilograms of CO2? Three times as much. Is that science?

06:05 The science is in is that possible is that science is in? So, for the sake of it, well, alright. I'm not a scientist, so I don't know, but that seems like a lot. Okay, well here's a fueleconomy.gov. Our own government tells us the following. How can a gallon of gasoline produce 20 pounds of carbon dioxide? The government is asked. Hold on, hold on! The science is in! That's how it seems. It's impossible that a gallon of gasoline, which weighs about 6.3 pounds, could produce 20 pounds of carbon dioxide when burned.

06:40 However, most of the weight of the CO2 doesn't come from the gasoline but the oxygen from the oxygen in the air. When the gasoline burns, the carbon and hydrogen separate. The hydrogen combines with oxygen to form water, H2O, and the carbon combines with oxygen to form carbon dioxide, CO2. Carbon and it goes on with the calculation. All right, I think it's bogative. Yeah, so is the tax is this just a tax grab second question? Oh, yeah tax grab. No the Green Party proposes tax shift. What are they gonna do with the money? They getting the money? Here it is the money raised by a carbon tax will be used to reduce other taxes like income and payroll taxes. When has that ever happened?

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

White House Apps for Energy Challenge

The U.S. Department of Energy, under Secretary Steven Chu, launched the "Apps for Energy" challenge offering $100,000 for developers to create tools for the "Green Button" initiative. The program aims to help utility customers manage electricity usage data. The hosts criticize the initiative as a way to distract citizens from rising energy costs.

white house· energy department· secretary chu· apps for energy· green button

07:27 Oh, really? So of course what is going to happen is everything gets more expensive and just keeps on getting more expensive. It doesn't do anything but get more expensive and everyone's raising their prices of everything. This is a total bug. I had no idea that the British Columbia was on board with this. And then, I mean, this is so much Agenda 21 stuff, John. It's like Berkeley North. Well, then I find this challenge. From the White House. Are you ready? Developers get ready. It's a big challenge build an app Have you heard about this? No, the app what's the app? You got to go app you got to go to apps for energy dot challenge dot gov and So you can build a an app

08:23 Here, the US Energy Department's Apps for Energy is offering $100,000 to software developers for the best new apps that help utility customers make the most of their green button electricity usage data. Again, it's just more, it's like trying to hipify the fact that you're getting screwed. You know, I'm getting screwed on this, but I've got an app. It makes me feel good. Some are you this is that idiot secretary Chu? Yes now the Nobel Prize winning physicist who's now a government bureaucrat And he wants all the gasoline prices in the United States He said so publicly at least twice to be the same as it is in Europe so we can feel the pain now Are you a guy is a complete washout? Are you I should get rid of him are you on this website? Oh?

09:09 No, I can't get to that. I got energy.gov. Secretary Chu launches first ever Apps Energy Challenge. Press release. Is there a link there? Because you have to go to Apps for Energy. I've been trying and I can't find it. Energy Department launches Apps for Energy. You know where that little bar at the top of your browser? I can't get out of energy.gov. I tried that and I get a no, it doesn't show up. Apps for energy all one word? Yes. Dot. Challenge. Dot. Go. You didn't say dot challenge. I sure did. Don't make me rewind the tapes. You can rewind the tape and you won't find it. I said apps for energy dot challenge dot gov. Don't argue with me. So it's under challenge dot gov. Yes. I know there was a site called challenge dot gov. So I want you to take a look at this. This is very important because I found some funny stuff here.

10:01 Well, since you're on the site, you apparently have brought it to its knees. It won't load. Really? The two other people in the chat room have gone to it. The thing is jammed. It's sunk. Really? I brought challenge.gov to its knees, really? You think? I don't think so. Apps for enter okay here. We go. I got a mistake. Are you with me almost? I'm getting there all right all right here. I'm looking at okay You're there good challenge post now by challenge post there's another eight million dollar ripoff I'll bet now. Do you see the partners tab yeah, okay click on the partners tab and

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Grid 21 and Association Management Strategies Lobbying

An investigation into "Grid 21" reveals it is managed by Association Management Strategies (AMS) at 1155 15th Street NW in Washington, D.C. The address is shared with the International Claim Association and other lobbying fronts. The hosts allege these organizations are shell entities designed to facilitate lobbying and condition the public for higher energy pricing.

grid 21· association management strategies· washington dc· lobbying· international claim association

10:41 What do you see over there? What's the first thing that jumps out at you? EG&E. How about on the left? Grid 21. So we click on that and you go to this grid 21 which... Empowering America. Grid 21, empowering America! So Grid 21 is a nationwide initiative to increase energy awareness and encounter smarter, more efficient usage by Americans, i.e. pay more, slave. Our goal is to bring the best practices to the energy grid, leading to reduced greenhouse gas emissions, decreased cost, and lowered dependency on foreign oil.

11:19 So you see right here we are currently building the grid 21 site check back for more information. So you can't find much about them there is a little about grid 21 it's a new non-profit organization I might add there's absolutely no... Do you think that 21 has to do with agenda 21? Yeah you think maybe. So of course there's no information but the you know there's no form 90s 990s nothing but it's a new nonprofit organization committed to engaging electricity consumers in using a new generation of tools and technologies to better manage their electricity consumption. So I'm like who are these jabronis? A little who is gives us the following. They are

12:07 registered in Washington DC 1155 15th West 1155 15th Street in Washington and Northwest in Washington DC. So I'm like I really want to find out who's behind this. So there's not much to find out there. What's the address again? Doesn't matter. You don't have to do it because I already got it. Okay. So then I look at the the registrar And the registrar data goes to an outfit called Association Management Strategies. Oh, these are the same as the grid wise guys. Exactly. Well, what it is is a full service association management company, i.e. lobbying firm, which provides management expertise and administrative services to industry associations, coalitions, professional societies, trade shows and other special events. And what they do, they literally say it here.

13:00 Located in Washington DC at the same address as grid 21 minutes away from most federal agencies for easy lobbying access AMS will provide each client with its own identity as an autonomous Association so it's basically it's a front. It's a front and it's run by a company called claim org The International Claim Association this thing is lame excellence. This thing is so deep And it's state anti-fraud training. North American training group, find us on Facebook. But the thing that's nasty is... This is terrible! Yes!

13:37 They have an education conference coming up though on September 30th in Orlando. Spring meeting by the way, Hard Rock Hotel, San Diego, California. Register now. Since its founding in 1909, the International Claim Association, ICA, has been the forefront of addressing a broad range of life, health and disability claim issues. There's a... This is the exact same offices. Yeah, it's all 1155 15th Street. Northwest suite 500, it's the same suite. The International Claim Association. And then they're running on a dot-gov site? This is just scandalous. And promoted on the White House website. So I'm just seeing so much of this closing in on us and believe me they are setting you up. How come somebody doesn't bust these guys? What do you think we're in business for Johnny boy?

14:30 Unbelievable that's what we're here for that's what we do anyone out there can look it up claim it does they got a good one too they got in early claim org Nice, huh, so they're doing it so this is propagating to condition the human resources of gitmo nation to get ready for sky-high pricing on everything and Basically you get all these little tchotchkes and apps and meters and dingleberry debts that make you feel good and About being gouged essentially and now they've come up with a new thing. Essentially being gouged and the Canadians, what is wrong with you people? This is why we have nobody that donates from BC by the way. Because they're broke. They're broke and they don't get it. Now listen to this, this is the latest. So if you take all this Agenda 21 stuff into play, I have a news clip here which is of course from a PR agency.

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Tiny House Movement and Sustainable Living

The "Tiny House Movement" is highlighted through the story of Dee Williams, who lives in an 84-square-foot home in Olympia. The lifestyle features compost toilets and sustainable materials to reduce carbon footprints. The hosts mock the movement as a form of economic conditioning for a declining standard of living.

tiny house movement· dee williams· compost toilet· sustainable materials· carbon footprint

15:28 And it shows you exactly the way your government wants you to live. Are you ready for it? This is going to be my new house. Well, given the state of the economy, more Americans are joining the tiny house movement. Dee Williams of Olympia. It's a movement, by the way, John. It's a movement. It's a movement. Tiny house movement. Oh, there goes one now. Go check it out. One of those people. She lives in an 84 square foot house built with sustainable materials. She's an environmentalist who wanted to give up a looming mortgage to live in a smaller home with enough cash to go and do the things that she wanted. It's only 13 and a half feet tall, it's only 8 and a half feet wide. You know, it's small, but it works. It works! Well her home boasts a full kitchen, a compost toilet, and a lot of... Compost toilet? What is that? She craps in the... We're talking about a room that's 8 foot by 10 foot. The room I'm in now is bigger than that, okay? So let's start with that. And she craps in the toilet? And so it's got a toilet in the room, so you're in there crapping in the living room and eating... or maybe you're cooking while you're on the crapper.

16:30 But what is a compost toilet? That means you just go, essentially it's an outhouse. It's a bucket. It's a bucket with a lid. It's a bucket with a lid. You put crap in it. And this is cool because you're an environmentalist. Yes, and it's built from sustainable materials like your own poop. with an incredible skylight. She says it reminds her of the treehouse that she spent time in as a child. Romanticize it, the treehouse. As an adult, Williams says she is proud to be leaving a smaller carbon footprint. I have a low energy propane heater. By the way, she looks like she's knocking on death's door. I'll bet she is. She does not look well. She does not look well. And low E argon insulated windows. And then I used cotton bat insulations in the walls and the ceiling. No plastics or space age stuff. No space age stuff.

17:29 But this this is what we're being conditioned for and it's a movement John it's the tiny house movement So we're all supposed to get on board with the tiny house movement and feel good about saving the earth but and I'm all for for no not polluting if possible, but carbon tax and and pooping on top of my own poop. Yeah, of course it's a scam. And by the way, for anyone who's just started listening to the show, we don't have a problem with people who might believe in one thing or another, but if you're sincere about global warming and carbon and the problem with carbon, you cap it. You don't cap and trade it. Just kill yourself if you really care. And they won't cap it.

18:16 If it's so important and everything they say is true, why don't they cap it? They won't cap it. They want to cap and trade, which means that nothing changes. So what's the point? Why are we doing any of it? And do you think that... Because it is a scam at the base. Otherwise they would cap it. It seems to me. Wouldn't they cap it? Cap it. Cap it. Cap it. Whip it. Whip it. Whip it. Whip it. We need that. We need... What's his name saying that? Cap it. Cap it or flap it, baby. Yeah, so I'm just seeing a lot of this there was another one. What was this? Well, Austin's got one of these areas. It's kind of little like Berkeley. It's a college town So you get a lot of nutty stuff there

18:59 You probably have the Berkley style women. The hummers and the crackpots and the women that wash their steps more than they wash their hair kind of thing. I have to say people are pretty cool here. Yeah, yeah, but you know, maybe you're falling prey to the hippie quality of us. There's definitely hippies, but they're just around smoking dope going, dude, can you believe that agenda 21 stuff? No, I don't see that much of it. I really don't. Okay. And believe me, there's not a lot of... You don't get out that much. You don't like to really mingle with the public. I do too. There's not a lot of Priuses driving around here because those get rolled over with a Dodge Rams. Like, hey, watch this. Hey, see that? Shoot it. What was that? Oh, I bumped over a Prius.

19:49 It's Steiner Ranch, they got Priuses, but those people be the first to go. Those gated communities, and I always say the gate is to keep those people in. And they look at me like, what? That's what Ron Paul would say. Hey, in the morning to you, Johnny boy. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea, and all boots on the ground, and all the feet in the air, and the feet washing ashore on the British Columbia. Waterways yes, and in the morning to our human resources in our chat room you can find that at no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net it takes place every Thursday and Sunday morning at 9 a.m. Gitmo Nation West time when we do the show live lots of people join in keep us keeping them honest Good to see y'all there charged up and ready to go. That's very nice nice email by the way John I liked and I agreed with what you sent out and

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Eric Holder and Trayvon Martin Investigation

Attorney General Eric Holder addressed the National Action Network regarding the Department of Justice investigation into the death of Trayvon Martin. The FBI and the Civil Rights Division are involved in reviewing the case for potential federal hate crime charges. The hosts suggest the administration is using the tragedy to stoke racial tension for political gain.

eric holder· trayvon martin· department of justice· al sharpton· national action network

20:39 earlier this week. The news, it was so unbelievable how there was no news. It was just the stupidest things that were being propagated over and over and over again. CNN, I can't, now I'm watching Fox News, I can't even watch CNN anymore. CNN is really deteriorating. Well they have no budget, you can tell there's no more money. It's just over. Now the only thing I did see, what else was there? You wrote it in your note. What was the news? Well the main thing of course is the Trayvon Martin thing which I, now somebody sent me a note suggesting that there is a kind of a media hit going on against Hispanics.

21:23 Really? And she or he, I think it was a she, didn't understand, she had a theory that it was maybe to do with the DREAM Act and I think that's pretty far-fetched. But you know she mentioned that this Trayvon Martin thing is the biggest thing going on, although I believe it was designed to create a white, what your theory which is create a white black tension. Yeah. And I you just see the meeting going, hey, we got one, we got a situation we can put go full bore on it. He says, yeah, what happened? Well, this I guess this white guy. Oh, man, look at this. He's not only white, but he's Jewish. We got a double hit here. We got a white kid killing a black kid. This would be perfect. But you send out, send Sharpton out, send everybody out. And somebody looks as holy crap. This is a Mexican. Oh, no.

22:08 I distraction of the week kind of mode which is what we've been dealing with but this is looks like a distraction of the month. Oh no it's gonna be much worse now first of all we had by coincidence the Attorney General of the United States Holder doing a speech at the National Action Network

22:50 Are you familiar with this outfit? Is that one of those extortion places? Yeah, that's the Al Sharpton extortion place. Al Sharpton is the guy for people outside the country who is, he uses a technique that's used by Jesse Jackson of extorting money for his firm by going around and threatening to boycott and picket and make a big scene. He's a troublemaker. He's a community organizer. He's a reverend. He's on this, he's this guy who also went after the kids, the white kids, who supposedly raped some girl at Duke University and it put these kids out of business because they, it turns out the woman was a hooker that was trying to extort money and then when that finally broke out, Sharpton, who'd ruined these kids' lives with him and these other people,

23:41 You never apologize or anything. These guys are shameless shills. So the way it works is they have these non-profits which pay their salaries and travel and whatever else and then they threaten you with something and you can usually get them to stop like a boycott as you said. You can get them to stop if you make a donation to the foundation. Is that kind of how it works? Yeah, pretty much. Jesse Jackson has one and Sharpton has. Sharpton modeled his after Jackson's, the guy who perfected it. So he gets Holder down there. Do you hear Holder speak at the... No, I heard what he said. I heard what he said, though. Do you have a clip? Yeah, yeah. I'll play the clip for you if you wish. Let's do it. Many of you are greatly and rightly concerned about the recent shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

24:29 a young man whose future has been lost to the ages. Now listen very carefully to the Words he's using he's reading from the teleprompter of course 17 year old young man, so he's really positioning this you know this is the This is the the biggest lawyer of the land right this is this is the guy supposed to be completely in Marlowe No, yeah, as most of you know three weeks ago the Department of Justice launched an investigation into this incident which remains open at this time So what is this is a state issue? I don't understand why the Department of Justice needs to come into it, but Eric Holder will unfold it for us. Hey and prevents me from talking in detail about this matter. However, I can tell you that in recent weeks, Justice Department officials, including Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, Tom Perez, and the United States Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, Robert O'Neill, have traveled to Sanford, Florida, to meet with the Martin family, the community, and local authorities. The FBI is assisting local law enforcement officials. Why is the FBI in on it?

25:32 Makes no sense to me, but there's more there's more and representatives from the community relations. I mean the guy said yeah, I killed him He said he killed him. You don't need to investigate that. I mean, I'm not sure why the FBI is involved, but okay. The Justice Department's peacemakers are continuing to meet with civil rights leaders, law enforcement officers. So now, oh, now he's saying it's a civil rights issue. Let's listen. And area residents to address and to help alleviate community tensions. We're also communicating closely with local, state, and federal representatives and officials. In all of these discussions, we're listening carefully to concerns.

26:09 And we're emphasizing that the department will conduct a thorough and independent review of the evidence. Now, although I cannot share where our current efforts will lead us from here, I can assure you that in this investigation and in all cases, we will examine the facts and the law. If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, What is a federal civil rights crime? Well, so that means it the only thing you can mean by that is it's a hate crime. Yeah

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

George Zimmerman Second-Degree Murder Charges

George Zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges in Florida, a charge that requires proving a "depraved mind" without regard for human life. The hosts predict a televised trial will dominate news cycles through the summer of 2012 to distract from the Republican National Convention. They speculate that an acquittal is likely based on the specific legal definitions in Florida law.

george zimmerman· florida· second-degree murder· nancy grace· trial

26:49 Or a violation of civil rights. Well he got killed, isn't that a violation of your civil rights? It doesn't have to be a hate crime. No but if you get killed that's pretty much a violation of your civil rights I would say. I would think that would apply to all deaths by gun. So here's what I think is happening. So Zimmerman gets charged and again this is not for us here on this show, this is not a black or white issue. You know kid gets killed, that sucks. Guy kills kid, that sucks. The whole thing sucks. But I believe that the Obama campaign is using this, as we've discussed before this even happened, to create racial tension within the country. And here's how I think it's going to play out. So Zimmerman gets charged with second-degree murder, which is not the same in every single state. In Florida, in fact, it's a little bit different than most.

27:35 This is going to be a televised court drama. Nancy Grace is slippery. That's how excited she is about this. She's sliding down the sidewalks. This is going to be 24-7. We will not get away from the coverage of this case. It's going to be extremely annoying. It's going to dominate all the news. Everyone's going to get hyped up. It's going to be the conversation du jour. But he's going to be acquitted, which of course will spark craziness. And I'll tell you why he's going to get acquitted. In Florida, the definition of second-degree murder, it can only stick in two ways. One, an accomplice felony murder, which is not the case. We know that because he's not an accomplice. He actually did it. He killed the kid.

28:23 But the main way you get convicted of second-degree murder in Florida is murder with a depraved mind. Definition? Murder with a depraved mind occurs when a person is killed without any premeditated design by an act imminently dangerous to another and convincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life. So they basically will have to prove that Zimmerman was nuts. And they're not gonna prove it and then he's gonna get off. Complete agreement with your thesis I think it's gonna be Michael Jackson 2. It's gonna be a huge deal. They're gonna be and you're right Nancy Grace who's an idiot will be up there I don't know what she's just blathering about this and that and he will get off and I think the whole thing is schemed so he does get off. That's why the charge is second degree not manslaughter but second degree because... Well actually I

29:16 I heard one of the law shows say that they can't, for some reason they couldn't do manslaughter because in Florida there's no, apparently they don't have the possibility. I don't know about that. There was something screwy about the manslaughter, the thing where they wouldn't do it. So they jumped it up to this and this is a definitely will get off and then all hell will break loose. Which will be right in time for the election. Perfect timing. This will go on. I think we're going to see 90 days worth of trial. What do you think? We'll have recesses. First we have to pick the jury. We got to have the jury picked. Let me look at the calendar.

29:55 Right. I think... When is the Democratic National Convention? Ooh, isn't that... and by the way, isn't that in Florida this year? Let me see. That would be good timing. National... oh boy. National Convention 2012 let's see who Google's Charlotte North Carolina yeah which is close enough yeah it is close enough and starts when looking for the date here okay let's do this for a second week of September 3rd September so okay so it's September 3rd is the week so it has to happen before that I think it has to conclude before that to August I think August

30:41 July, end of July. Yeah, so we're gonna go through two months three months That's your 90 days as you said add another thing add another 30 days. I'll be 120 mm-hmm to get out the court decision Because I don't think I can stretch it past the convention because they don't want to make no no no during the Democrat Convention No, but when's the Republican Convention? No idea. Let's take a look I figured you would know. I thought you had your invite already. I didn't get an invite this year. Okay, this is August 27th. So they have to... They gotta wrap it up by mid-August. Ideally... End of July even, John. No, no, I'm thinking ideally you do it on top of the Republican Convention. Oh, to completely distract from it. Perfect. Yeah, and then you end it right after the Republican Convention and go into the Democrat Convention where they can now start pointing the finger. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, and it's gonna be pandemonium. People will be freaking out.

31:40 And it's thank you very much to the administration. Holder, propping it up there. It's clear what side he's on, which I don't think he should be picking any side. What business does he have talking at the National Action Network? What business does he have? Go run the Justice Department, dude. Yeah, go send some guns to Mexico. Yeah, go do something helpful. Don't be pandering over there. That's lame. Anyway, I bet you you didn't see any of this on the news this past week. Did you you just saw some holders talking in front of that? No, but I but I bet no one actually said here's the real definition of second-degree murder in Florida No, no one does any of that work. No, which is so there you go So those of you listening to this program also known as the best podcast in the universe. I

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Tim Weiner and FBI History Book

Author Tim Weiner appeared on The Daily Show to discuss his book "Enemies: A History of the FBI." The hosts criticize Jon Stewart for an unprepared interview and discuss the book's revelations about "black bagging" and warrantless arrests in the early 20th century. There is speculation that Weiner may have been compromised by intelligence agencies during his research.

tim weiner· jon stewart· fbi· j. edgar hoover· enemies

32:30 You're getting your money's worth and let's thank a few producers for some insight here I mean, you're not gonna get it anyplace else these guys and you're right CNN is a disaster. Mm-hmm In fact, even John Stewart went after him last week and bid with this stuff. He let me let me say something about John Stuart John Stewart is a disaster and he jumped the shark on me. Yeah. Well he had to watch it. No he had no someone sent me a clip he had Tim Weiner on and Tim Weiner. Nobody watches the last no no uh-uh you don't that doesn't count. Jon Stewart is good for the first 20 minutes and you turn it off. Let me just say something about it though. So I am three quarters of the way through his new book called Enemies the inside story of the FBI which is the follow-up to Legacy of Ashes about the CIA and I have to say I'm not

33:15 Completely convinced that Weiner hasn't been compromised while writing this book But I'll tell you one thing John the guy the guy that you want is that guy who wrote the Bush book? That's the guy who's got that but I'm interested. I'm gonna get the guy on the big book show so I'm gonna interview him about both books Weiner yeah But what was interesting is that Jon Stewart is conducting this interview and within the first question, you didn't read the book. He did not read the book. He didn't read the book! And he's asking questions because he saw the J. Edgar Hoover movie, which is not what the book is about. Yeah, of course, there's J. Edgar Hoover in there, but it's not what the book is about. CIA anecdotes are very entertaining. No, no, FBI, the FBI, the FBI. Legacy of Ashes? No, no, we're talking about the new book. Yeah, he did not. He didn't read the other book either. Yeah. And by the way, I'll tell you that book, the new book. Yeah.

34:14 If the accounts that Weiner is writing in this, we've had nothing but hit squads and black bagging of American citizens going on since the 1900s. It's amazing. Thousands of people arrested in one night, thrown into prison, no warrants. This has been going on forever. We thought the NDAA was new. This is not new. Our country has always been a Nazi state. It's crazy. When you read this book, you'd be like, oh my goodness. I guess I have to read that book. Well, wait until I do the Weiner interview. What makes you think he's compromised? Is it the books? It feels very different than the first one. You know what I mean? He also doesn't state that. Oh, the first one was probably written by the CIA. Well, remember I called Uncle Don about the first one and Uncle Don said, yep, and that's pretty much the way I remember it. That sounds about right. And I can't call Uncle Don on this, but it just feels like he's

35:09 In fact, the book protects Hoover a bit. It's not really you writing, it's you doing a project. And so you go in, because you can't research all this stuff. And I mean if you look at Michelle Malkin's book on the Obamas, you can read that, which came out right after you got elected. You look at that thing, you say, this woman could not have spent this much time getting all this information. Somebody, it was a team. That was a shitty book. That was a waste of 14 bucks. You get a team and you say, here's what you need to get, here's what I need to get, you have a whole bunch of research, they all bring the stuff together and in many instances with the case of a government agency, because you don't want to get killed, you just have them do the damn book. I'm sure the CIA wrote that other book just so they could specifically leave certain things out. Yeah, it had a lot to do with it for sure.

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Show 400 Preparation

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors including Dame Kathy Samunich, Sir Robin Dearden, and Sir Yule Vandermeer. Discussion covers the "value for value" model and the upcoming milestone of Episode 400. Several listeners are "de-douched" and granted knighthoods for their financial support of the program.

knighthood· executive producers· value for value· show 400· donations

36:06 Anyway, all right. Let's thank our producers that we have executive producers and associates for today's episode Which is nice as we're gearing up for the big episode 400 people getting in early on it John Yeah, well everyone who got a 400 in today gets to executive producer credits because you get also credited on the next show so it's a two for the price of one deal and Anyway, next show is show 400 which is amazing. You know, that's more shows in the twit broadcast podcast. Don't get me started Kathy Samunich starts us off from West Chicago, 60667, and she's now going to be Dame Kathy. I paid on it, she has a little accounting here. I still have enough left to pay for a knighthood. My husband and I listened to your show for a couple of years now and you guys do an outstanding job. We asked for some karma for the US Constitution. Yeah, hell yeah.

37:06 You've got karma. Absolutely. Black Knight Robin Dearden from I don't have his location for some reason but he came with $400.40. Keep it up guys. Donating with reference to the last newsletter. Very effective. Value for value. Good stuff he says. You know I was thinking why you know you write several columns a week. What do you write like two columns a week maybe more? Every week I write a minimum of six. Six columns? So why don't you just throw in an extra one? Just do a seventh and make that the weekly column for... That's what I do here. That's what the newsletter is. I'm sending out every Wednesday. I guess what I'm saying is...

37:47 It felt much more like one of your columns and that really appealed to me. I really liked it. That was good. Yeah, no, I mean, it's just the style. Keep it going. That's what I did a couple of columns ago. I had a whole thing about the pipeline. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Keep it up. Keep it up. It's good. It's good work. Free column. People who are on the mailing list will get this usually Wednesday. Sometimes they'll skip a week, but generally speaking, Wednesday morning, it'll be in your inbox if you are on the mailing list. And I would say that once in a while, there'll be something valuable And I like it, you know, because it's an enjoyable read. You sent the... because John always sends me the column. And did you keep any of my changes or you just ignore them? I just used yours. I didn't touch it. Oh, that's good to know. I don't know, did you screw it up? I hope not.

38:32 No, I just made, you know, there's a couple of things that like, oh, come on, man. We're in 2012. Come on, hip it up a bit. Um, but it's good. I read through that. I'm like, ah, this is really a fun read. So it's good. I like it. It goes to a Pepper's mama, Shana for a cop quick copy at it first. Cause she, I, when he did a newsletter like two, three years ago, she's, she's one of these. So I remember that. Yeah. She's like bitching and moaning about how idiotic we were making, you know, had some, I don't use a copy editor for this. He's like, really? You went to Berkeley? Really? So I said, okay, really? You wanted to do it? Okay, boom. So I sent her all the things. So she sends it to me and that becomes version two. And then I just send that to you and then you have to see it because we're part of the same group here. You and me. Yeah. And so then you do what you think is right. Then I get it back and 90% of the time I don't do anything. But once in a while I'll look at it. I did, I think change one thing because I decided against something, but all right.

39:25 I'll take something out or whatever and that then it goes out on Wednesday morning right moving on David Rudolph Baker Bucker to be Bucker Bucker it's Bucker It looks like it's a B-A-K-K-E-R. I would say Bucker. It's usually pronounced Baker. Maybe. Like Jim Baker, the famous... Well, he's from Roden. Where's Roden? I don't know where Roden is. Roden. He's in Gitmo Nation, Singapore. That's where he is now. Oh. Well, no. He's probably an economic hitman. You think? It totally Gitmo nation, Singapore. I realized I noticed this thanks to no agenda. And it was time to donate again and you just happened to send out a $400 donation request which in turn is just enough for me to finally become a knight. Coincidence? I think not! Coincidence? I think not! Karma from my almost ready to be launched book Het Mekboog. Oh there you go, so he's Dutch. Bukker. Het Mekboog. Let me give you the pronunciation. Het Mekboogje.

40:24 At Macbookie. Which you can find at Macbookie.nl. The fact of the matter is... That's what he says. I know. What are you buzzing me for? I'm buzzing him. I'm buzzing him. He's doing it as a joke. For me the no agenda is the one and only form of news and entertainment I could not live without. If you out there listeners feel the same, he says, donate. You've got karma. Nice, thank you David Rudolf Bakker at Macbookie.nl. Robert Randall in Portland, Oregon $400 and I couldn't find an email from him so I said it's supposed to just $400 straight up. William Jarema in Millville,

41:09 New Jersey $400 same with him. Want to thank both you guys. Bruce Salkovitz in Warrington, Pennsylvania $400. In the morning Mazel Tov on show 400 plan was 200 every 100 shows need to accelerate plan to be a night. This doubles down current level should be up to 800 please wish my hot but vertically challenged wife a happy birthday. I love you sweetie. He's a mini milf. This will get her off my back for the donation. Adam, you were the hair envy of my friends in the 80s. He's still the hair envy of everybody. Yeah, thank you. They got the band together and he's got a Facebook thing. Shot of Karma for me, shot of Karma for all. Love the hair, no homo. And he's a folder. You've got karma. Thanks man.

41:59 Well, there's only two types of people in the world. You either fold your toilet paper or you scrunch it. Oh, yeah. What are you? You're a scruncher. I know you're a scruncher. I am a combo scruncher folder. How about that? There's three types of people. I think you're an angry buncher. Angry buncher. Yul Vandermeer. Hey, that's Yul. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he's back. This is... In Vlissingen. Flushing it yeah fishing in 399 as Carly Bosch that's raised the bar last episode just wanted to make sure that she can call me sir he gets his knighthood today I'd like to call out Robert Muhlenberg as a douchebag oh well hell yeah thanks for the karma you guys sent last year

42:47 For my startup Blau water. Yes. I was the one in the mega yachting and the number and no I still not Want you guys to make fun of my customers. Yeah, this is the guy that does the big beautiful ships yachts. Yeah Yeah, and one day One of the few night yacht builders. Yeah, well you can put the no agenda coat of arms on on each of his projects Yes someplace in the corner where they won't notice it built by sir Yule fundamere. Oh Last year karma was well spent as I have a full order book for the following year. Of course you do this the way things go. So a very big thank you to my customers and a donation for you guys. Reason for the donation on this episode is I wanted to spread the love aka Dow between... I think it means the dough.

43:33 Dow says Dow yeah, we've done between John's birthday preparations for Adams and Mickey's wedding and the fourth centennial show furthermore I assume the shows in between would be slower and so he came up with 390 He's a member of the 399 Club. Yep perfect. You'll get a special extra credit for that today. Thank you so much Paul Boyer in Howell, Michigan, 33333, combination my birthday, April 12th, 42, following on a show day and the threat of not getting a night ring if I don't start donating soon. Finally got my, me off my ass, been donating since episode one, but I'm not quite a total douche since I donated $9.02, obscure Atlas Shrugged reference, way back when you first started taking PayPal donations.

44:16 Still, I'd like a de-douching and since I listen to every show and you guys have earned this donation 398 times over just because it's my favorite jingle I can't. Can I get a Plains Good, Trains Bad de-douching maybe with an Adios Mofo as icing? Well, okay. Hold on a second. There's a lot of work we gotta do here. Okay, let's do that for you. Where is my Plains Good train? I haven't played it in such a while. Here we go. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. You've been deduced. Adios, mofo. See, I've always believed that the sound effect angle to these shows is a big payoff.

45:03 John Johnson jr. $250 hey citizens want to thank you for all the hours of information like three Request a double shot of karma one for my parents as I got introduced my dad to show a few weeks ago the other one for my smoking hot fiancee Since it's her birthday on Friday. Can you put her on the birthday list? Yeah, you've got karma so hold on a second so that's John Johnson's fiancee He never gave us a name. John Johnson's... Junior. John Johnson Junior. Really? John Johnson. It's Triple J everybody! John JJJ. Finally, just plain old Steven in Denver. $200 and he has really nothing to say except that. And we want to thank them and all our other contributors for show 399. We're almost to show 400. It's a big deal to get that far.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Healthy Surprise and Gitmo Shirts PR

The hosts thank Healthy Surprise for a box of vegan snacks and promote the launch of GetmoShirts.com, which features designs related to the "Drone Star State" and "China Pipelines." A listener report mentions spiking a Gallup poll by entering "No Agenda" as a primary news source and claiming to be a high-income Ron Paul supporter.

healthy surprise· gitmo shirts· gallup poll· ron paul· drones

45:55 and you can go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel, Dvorak.com slash NA noagendashow dot com and noagendanation.com to click on the donate button and keep us going. Yes, keep us going through the summer. Dvorak.org slash NA. I do have just a couple of things here. Just a quick note from Jason Bene. B-E-N-N-E. Hi Ryan, just to say thank you. Thank you for the priceless education you and JCD have given to me and others. This evening the local CBS News came on after CSI and all the bull crap made me sick. I had to turn off the TV. I've been listening for almost two years now. Sadly, I'm still a boner. This living the American dream of just getting by really sucks. I tell everyone I can about the show. I hope to support you guys as long as I can. As soon as

46:43 Hope to support you guys soon, as long as I can get through school and find a job again. So form, uh, from the bottom of this... Stay at home dad's heart. Thank you very much. So I just wanted to read that because it was a beautiful note Thank you so much to Joe over there at healthy surprise calm. Did you get a box? I got a box Yeah, hold on a second. Let me get the boxes I think we should go over this well, maybe after that we can do it We can do that later. But yes close the segment. It's a beautiful beautiful box of food, which is highly appreciated food It's a gift that keeps on giving except for the kale. I Now I'm not too big on the kale. Mickey loves the kale though. She loves the kale. Doug Walker, he has donated before. Is he a knight, Doug Walker? I know he's donated several times. It says two US Marines were killed and two severely injured in the crash of a hybrid aircraft. That's the tilt rotor, the Osprey, Morocco.

47:38 Adam I know a young man who pilots an MV 22 Osprey and is attached to the USS Iwo Jima. It is unknown at this time if his aircraft was the one that went down, but he was deployed to this exercise. I watched him grow up to be one fine young Marine and a seriously badass pilot. As you know flying this aircraft takes big brass ones and a certain amount of skill. We're hoping to hear some news one way the other about his status But if you could send out a karma shot for his squadron I would appreciate it his Marine squadron is VMM 261 out of New River, North Carolina I'd like to do that You've got karma and then quick PR mentions as Scott from Monroe, Michigan He sent us a picture that he was recently asked or selected to be in a Gallup poll on

48:22 And this is a real polling outfit, these Gallup poll guys. And question number nine on this poll, which internet site do you turn to most to get news or information about national and international issues? And of course, he filled out noagendashow.com. Which is very good. Keep spiking those Gallup polls. I got on a couple of those polls recently. I have a new technique. These polls were political ones and I was always trying to see who were going to vote for and I pushed it toward Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul. Very good. And then at the very end they asked me my income. I gave them a real high number. Which I like to mix Ron Paul. And then my race, I'm black.

49:00 I think we should have more black people vote for Ron Paul. Absolutely. And then certainly the best PR move of the week. I love this. Getmo shirts.com is now open for business. You must check this website out, John, if you haven't seen it yet. Look at the awesome shirt designs you can now buy on getmoshirts.com. These are phenomenal. And I believe we're getting a couple of them. I can't wait. Are you there? Yeah, I'm looking there now. You see the shirt designs? I'm just seeing a big signage. I don't see any signs. Up at the top, menu at the top, shirt, shirt, shirt design. Oh, shirt designs, there it is. So you see the DroneStar State shirt, which I like. China Pipelines Inc. I love the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group. That's a great shirt. Look at that thing. Yeah, I need that. And how about the Curry Dvorak drones? We're in business. Yeah, we're in business.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Goldman Sachs Sponsorship of 60 Minutes Greece Report

A 60 Minutes segment on the Greek debt crisis featured IMF head Christine Lagarde discussing fiscal policy and the "medicine" Greece must take. The hosts point out that the broadcast was sponsored by Goldman Sachs, the same firm that previously advised Greece on off-book transactions. They suggest the report was timed to influence market movements.

60 minutes· goldman sachs· greece· eurozone· christine lagarde

49:58 All right, buddy. Keep it coming. We highly appreciate our executive producers and associate executive producers You too can become one of those or you can just become a monthly subscriber going to all rack org Slash and a and of course you can always just do whatever lots of slaves do is propagate the formula formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Thought it was a pretty big week actually news wise. I don't know if you would you dig up Oh tons of interest well, so the the only here's here's how I saw what happened there was only one actual news report that that was broadcast in the United States of Gitmo nation and that was on Sunday right after our program and that was 60 minutes and

51:03 And the way I see this is this and this was the 60 minutes episode of course had a lot of Mike Wallace stuff in there. But then it was about 15 minutes of just how effed the European Union is and all of Europe and America and we're all going to die. And consequently, the markets all tanked on Monday. I think that these stupid people on Wall Street are like, oh man, hey man, this is no good. We're screwed, man. And then everything tanks and there was no other reason for it than this report. Actually, if you listen to the DHM plug show from last week, Horowitz had a reasonable explanation for the reports that came out that triggered it. And I don't think it was the 60 minutes thing, although it is possible. Listen to this. This was I pulled a few quick quotes from it just to give you a little bit of a feel

51:53 feel for what this was about. Louise Cooper, a top financial analyst in London, says the European holiday is over. We're in a debt crisis. Eurozone countries have way too much debt. We have gorged on debt. GORGED! We are living beyond our means. LIVING! And after 10 years of booming economic time. BOOMING! It is now payback time. We are paying back our credit cards and that will prove very painful and costly. PAYMERS PAYING BACK OUR CREDIT CARDS! So then, uh... They have Christine Lagarde, who I just watched at the Brookings Institute this morning. I'm going to see if I can pull some clips from that. And she basically just comes out and says it. She says that, well, you know, you just can't have a whole region of all these countries using the same money without fiscal policy. So this is exactly what everyone was warned against. And she's saying, well, we got to have it. When you have a single currency,

52:54 and when you don't have a single or at least very closely coordinated fiscal policy, then you run the risk of having part of the territory go into one direction and other part of the territory go into another direction. And that's exactly what happened. Yes, and that is not good. So we're going to change all of that. And she has some very wise words for the people of Greece. When I heard this, I was like, wow, really? There's still medicine to be taken. Take your medicine, slaves! Take it, Greece! But the funniest thing of this entire... Take your medicine... There's still medicine to be taken! The funniest thing about this, and I didn't see the television broadcast, I only saw the web version.

53:49 So no matter how many times you play the clips and they have an isolated clip of Lagarde and then they have the 14 and a half or like 15 minute piece on Greece and not anywhere, not anywhere do they go through the history of how Greece happened, where Goldman Sachs came in, advised them on all these off-book transactions and then basically turned around and screwed them in the rectum. But who is this program sponsored by? When a group of engineers who can see the future meets a team at Goldman Sachs who can see potential, investors are found. The whole thing was sponsored by Goldman Sachs, the whole report. I think Goldman wanted to market the tank on Monday. Well, someone knew about it. Someone knew.

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

California Lottery and Aladdin Bail Bonds Advertisements

The hosts describe a sequence of back-to-back commercials on local news featuring the California Lottery followed by Aladdin Bail Bonds. They interpret this as a commentary on the current American economy, where the only perceived options for the underemployed are winning the lottery or facing incarceration.

california lottery· aladdin bail bonds· local news· advertising· economic state

54:39 Huh, mm-hmm. That's a good catch. I had a funny Advertisement that I caught in the middle of the news show Oh the regular news, you know the local news play they did there's a back-to-back commercial First is was the lottery commercial followed by this Sorry, it wasn't fast enough. Oops. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my mouse is stuck. Oh What is this? Okay, let me do that again. First, it was a commercial. This is showing you what the problem with the country is. Everyone's out of work, so play the lottery. Maybe you make some money, but if you don't, then you can maybe rob a bank. I won.

55:16 Yes! Woo! Bam! New California Lottery Black Scratchers. At Aladdin, we make you feel comfortable by providing a safe, welcoming environment and a well-trained staff that gets you through the process stress-free. Deep breath. We're here to help you. Aladdin bail bonds. They get you out. They get you through it. So that's what it's basically come down to. You either win the lottery or you go to jail. That's pretty much the options you have in America. I swear this is back-to-back commercials, right during the news. It's like this is the audience now the audience is they're all on the lottery and everybody by the way at the media offices bought a lottery ticket for that big Make a millions thing which is a joke yeah, and so you so you either win the lottery, but you can't so you gotta rob a bank or something and Latin bonds will be there to help We have that in tech. We have a lot of those commercials in Texas. It's a seven seven seven seven seven seven seven

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Greek Protests and Closed Hospitality Centers

Protesters in Greece disrupted a news broadcast by pelting the host with yogurt and eggs. Meanwhile, Civil Protection Minister Michalis Chrisochoidis announced the opening of "closed hospitality centers" for refugees. The hosts characterize these facilities as concentration camps being established ahead of the May 6 general election.

greece· protests· closed hospitality centers· refugees· concentration camps

56:13 Yeah, I mean, I want you three four. How can you forget the number right? Seven seven seven seven seven and you see this poor schlop looking through bars like help me Give me out. Give me out in the slave labor pool. So We're finally starting to see some video of actual events taking place in Greece. Because people, I mean, you know, this is no joke. Just because you're not seeing it on television doesn't mean that it's not happening. There was a great program, and the people of Greece, they're just so fed up. They just, they're just not, they really are not taking it anymore. They break into this, this poor schlub's news program. He's interviewing someone who clearly they don't agree with.

56:53 and they start pelting it with yogurt and eggs. Why can't that happen on 60 Minutes or when Diane Sawyer is on? Yogurt and eggs. It's a perfect combination. But then this one. This really and this is just a night. I don't read Greek so I'm getting a Translation here and you know things could be embellished or lost in translation, but the civil protection minister Mikalis Chris Oh hoy dis

57:45 Said that well, here's this quote and this is you know, May 6 they have a general election coming up Here's this quote. We have a commitment to start operating the closed hospitality centers and we will keep to that commitment The first center will operate before the general election in Greater Athens and it will act as a model to show Greek citizens that these facilities are safe for the public and will operate to high standards of health and hygiene and So do you know what these closed hospitality centers are, John? No, what? Well, they are meant for the influx of refugees who are, of course, fleeing to the north out of North Africa. But they're going to have this by May 6. Now, why would it be important to have these

58:38 closed hospitality centers by May 6th is because they're concentration camps. They are literally building camps to throw people into. That would make sense. And what was the due date on these things? May 6th, that's when they have the general election. Oh, yeah. So if you think it's going to be this isn't going to be fun to watch. This is my advice to people like to travel. Don't go to Greece. Go to Greece. At least until, you know, next year. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Yeah. No, no. There's some real real speak. Greece. But there we go on. There's some real problems in in well, in all of Europe, really. I'm to have a quick rundown while we're here. Sweden.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

European Economic Crisis and Cash Restrictions

Sweden is facing a toilet paper shortage due to labor union strikes, while natural gas prices in the UK are set to rise by 27%. In Spain, the government has banned cash transactions over 2,500 euros to combat tax fraud. The hosts view these developments as signs of increasing state control and economic instability across the Eurozone.

sweden· spain· toilet paper shortage· cash transactions· tax fraud

59:35 faces a massive toilet paper shortage. Well, they had it. This is like the butter shortage of Norway. Yep. It's just the opposite. Other end. The threat of toilet paper shortage looms large over Sweden after a labor union warned it would block deliveries from several Swedish toilet paper factories in a show of solidarity with another union group negotiating for higher pay. That's a shitty thing to do. Hey, hold on a second. Where is it? There we go. Very good. Boy. Very good. Some time. Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, still a part of Europe. Looks like... And something else. What? Keep going. I'm talking to JC. He needs to give me a clip that I didn't have. That's okay. Here it is from The Guardian.

1:00:25 Gas prices will rise 27% What? 27% Due to increased distribution costs What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Natural gas. This is a gas that, not gas that comes out of your, for your car. This is... Why is it, what, somebody, is there a new middleman that's taking a piece of the action as the gas goes by? Well, they're lying, of course. They're just, they need to get this price up. They're just gonna jack the price up. Yeah, because the actual price of gas is now below $2 at the, at the well. The price of natural gas is in the toilet it's so low. They could essentially give it away and still not make money.

1:01:03 But they're saying the distribution costs, yeah. The pipelines, I guess. Pipelines, yeah. Yeah, it's got to be pipelines. 27%. So this is it. But you know, and then let's add on the carbon tax, I'm sure that you'll get. So, okay. If you're traveling, you might not want to go to the... I don't think this is a good time to start gouging the general public. Well... But I guess they're putting up with it. I mean, you know, maybe I'm just, maybe I'm thinking, my thinking is backwards. When they're down, kick them. So Spain, doing what Italy did and doing what Belgium did they are now limiting cash transactions to two and a half thousand euros to fight tax fraud so you cannot transact in cash with anyone legally in Spain over two and a half thousand euros what yeah you heard me that's a good catch well I follow these things well

1:02:02 Why? Oh, because you're trying to move money? Ixnay on the unnay may oov may. Wow. Gitmo Nation Lowlands. They had the funniest report. So you know what? So you can't buy like you are you telling me let me get this straight. I got $10,000 that say I want to buy a car with cash or let's say $5,000 let's say $3,000. Yeah. I can't do it? Nope. Not legally. I can't legally spend $3,000 on a used car in cash because I've been saving the money. Well, dollars yes, euros no. Because 2,500 euros is a little more than $3,000. Okay, I'm just saying, 3,000 euros. Yeah. You can't do it. Wow. That's illegal. They're trying to definitely lock down. They're expecting serious, serious rioting and other

1:02:56 They're not expecting it. They're creating it totally. But in the Netherlands, now the Netherlands is so I love the Netherlands. So they can't, you know, I remember we were following the report about the financial crisis and the banks lie. And and then so the another report has come out and said the former minister of finance of outer boss, you know, he totally screwed up. He he did things he shouldn't have done. And then he's coming back and say, hey, look, you know, it was we were on the precipice. We're about to collapse. The whole world was dying. We had to do what we could do with very little information. We do what we could do. I hope you're so this conversation is starting to heat up a little bit.

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George Clooney and Malawi Political Shifts

The Dutch VVD party invited George Clooney to speak about Sudan, which the hosts describe as a "distraction" tactic. In Malawi, following the death of the president, Joyce Banda—a former World Bank official—has taken power. The hosts note the suspicious timing of these leadership changes in resource-rich African nations where China has significant interests.

george clooney· malawi· joyce banda· world bank· china

1:03:36 And they're like, how do we stop this? How do we stop? We got to, we got to, we got to stop this. So they come out with a news report that the VVD, the conservative party, are going to invite George Clooney to come to speak in parliament about, along with Prendergast, to speak about Sudan. And this is like now, now no one, everything on the news in the Netherlands is George Clooney. It's like, this is so the go-to guy. And now he's expanding the operations outside of the US to other countries. It's like you got a problem? You want to dominate the news with something else? Call Clooney. There's a strange thing. I have not gotten to the bottom of it yet, but the guy who was killed in China that we've talked about too much, but he was murdered by the wife of the...

1:04:33 the head of the province who was a big shot that has to now be taken aside and I guess beaten. And so he's not going to be in the Politburo eventually, whatever he's headed for. The guy was part of a MI6 operation that was, that's run out of London. It's a consulting group. I don't have the name in front of me. I followed the story. It's very hard to follow. If you look into that group, one of the main players is a guy named Prendergast. Oh no. Yes, but he's a Kevin or a Kekiel or some other Prendergast. He's not, and I can't find any relation to this Prendergast who supposedly is from Indiana.

1:05:12 at all. But the weird thing is, and why I think there's a connection, I haven't gotten to the bottom of it at all, is that that Prendergast in the MI6 consulting company was one of the early go-to guys for the situation in Darfur. Oh, then it has to be him. Yes, but there's, I can find zero connection. You know the name you know we are for we I mean this to two kind of important things But I it's like this it's weird. We need two things We meet and we need a jingle for you know if your country is in trouble you need a little distraction call Clooney call Clooney We need a call George Clooney jingle then we need something for the Chinas, too. I

1:05:55 Because the China thing is just getting outrageous. Did you see related to economic hitmen what happened in Malawi after your economic hitman said keep your eye on Malawi, then Malawi's president dies but they can't find the body to do an autopsy. They just misplaced him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry we can't find him. You see who just, you see who just stepped in? Who? Malawi's new president is Joyce Banda. Yeah. Formerly of the World Bank. Yeah, it's even better. You can't make it up! There's gonna be the brother, but then the brother, yeah, they pushed him aside and they put in this World Bank woman. I mean, if we were writing a book, right? We said, uh, you know what, hey, I'll tell you what, we'll make the new, we'll kill the old president with a heart attack thing, and then we'll put in someone from the World Bank. The editor at the publisher would go, come on, man, no one's gonna believe that. Yeah, this sucks. You can't do that. You're no good. You guys are no good at writing. You cannot make this up. You can't.

1:06:57 Oh my goodness. No, it's just beautiful. The thing is I don't get the base for the Malawi, what's going on there. Anyway, we'll follow it. Yeah. The other one is Mali, which is confusing. Yeah. There are two. Oh, by the way, that guy who was killed in China was also, they at first said it was alcohol poisoning, even though he didn't drink. And then they immediately cremated him. Oh, might as well. Just burn him up quick. Anyway, this is fishy stuff going on. I have a question for our techno experts remember We talked about that kids activity book from Monsanto Yeah, I do remember so I put that thing the way I construct the show notes as I put that thing into a folder and That is replicated in two places one of my Dropbox account and that is also Replicated on our show notes Dropbox, which is a Amazon s3 so it's the same one and

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

Monsanto Kids Activity Book PDF Glitch

A host reports a technical anomaly where a Monsanto "Kids Activity Book" PDF file appears to be updating itself automatically within a Dropbox folder. Listeners are asked to investigate the file at a provided URL to determine if the document contains "phone home" capabilities or other embedded access controls.

monsanto· pdf· dropbox· growl· kids activity book

1:07:57 And so I just throw this PDF file in there. So it's literally sitting on my, I just got an alert. Watch George Zimmerman in court. It's already starting. So this thing is sitting on my hard drive. That's not from one of our listeners, is it? No, no, no, no, no, it's a news alert. So this thing is sitting on my hard drive. And I have, what is that? You know those alerts, what is it called? Those pop-up alerts you have on the Mac.

1:08:33 Oh, come on. Help me out. The chat room. I don't know the bubble alert. It's like a bubble alert. Uh, I forget what it's called. Someone will know. So, uh, that's tied into growl. That's what it is. Growl. So that's growl. So that's tied in. So that's tied into, you know, Skype, but I have it turned off for Skype, but I have it turned on for Dropbox because sometimes during the show, someone will drop something in a public folder. I'll see the growl notification. It'll be a clip that I can use. So it's, you know, it's a part of the show. So for the entire two weeks since I dropped this in the box, every time I'm in front of my computer, I'll see the file, Kids Activity book has updated to the most recent version. I'm like, how can it do that? So what I've done, if you go to kidsactivity.curry.com, I've put a copy of this PDF file there. Could you please download that? Anyone knows how this works? Is this thing phoning home?

1:09:30 Is it maybe a virus? Yeah, it might be. Because if it's updating to the... I mean that means the file is changing for some reason. I'm not touching the file. No one else has access to that directory. Do you have an original copy that doesn't have any internet access? No, I literally moved this file so now it's on S3. So if you go to kidsactivity.curry.com you can download the copy from there. Take a look at it. I mean I have no idea what's going on with that. But to me it felt like, wait a minute, this can't be, you know, it keeps updating and it keeps telling me that it's up. I've never seen this with any other file.

1:10:08 So maybe it was a honeypot or something. Well, I don't know what kind of access control there is in a PDF file that might allow it to do this on its own. You have a PDF file and every time you launch it, it can call home perhaps and then update itself. That would be an access control protocol. It's possible it's built into PDFs. I've never heard of such a thing. Me neither. But it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's pretty cool if it does. Well yeah, and then I'd like to know what it's doing. We can send out a PDF file of you know like all kinds of stuff and just change it. Have it call home. Hey, now we can actually see all of our 10,000 listeners. I don't know, it's weird. This is a report that I know you caught. I think you might have even blogged about it on Dvorak.org slash blog.

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

FBI Most Wanted List and Eric Justin Toth

The FBI replaced Osama bin Laden on the Most Wanted list with Eric Justin Toth, a former teacher accused of possessing child pornography. The hosts argue this is a distraction from Senator Chuck Grassley's investigation into 5,200 Pentagon employees allegedly involved in similar crimes. They question why a 2008 case has suddenly become a top national priority.

fbi· eric justin toth· osama bin laden· child pornography· senator grassley

1:11:04 This is definitely, let me see if we can, this would be this. So this was the report, but all of a sudden it's all over the news. He's tall, lanky, nice looking, and a third grade teacher who is now filling the spot formerly held by Osama Bin Laden on the FBI's most wanted list. Eric Justin Toth is a former private school teacher and camp counselor accused of possessing and producing child porn. He's been on the run since 2008 when he was arrested after the sexual images were found on a school camera in his possession. Then he vanished. Now the FBI needs your help. Toth is 30 years old. This is very important because I thought about this for a long time and I went back and I listened to the clip, I didn't watch.

1:11:54 So the FBI needs your help. So there's a couple things. First of all, the fact that he's replaced Bin Laden is a distraction. That's an borderline crazy because bin Laden is you know, we know that he's at the bottom of the ocean somewhere, right? So they take him off and you know, they put this guy on the list but they but it's a distraction to To throw you off track But now they're saying we need your help and said to be a computer and social engineering expert expert He may be advertising online as a tutor or male nanny. And he's believed to have lived in Arizona in 2009 and visited all the states shown right there on our map. Now let's get in the FBI expert who will solidify what we need to do here. Joining us now Kevin Perkins, the assistant director of the FBI's criminal investigative division. So Kevin let's start with what more you can tell us about Toth.

1:12:48 Yes, good morning, Karen. Thanks for having us today. It's very important that we utilize the public's ability to find Toth. Wait a minute, is this the FBI I'm hearing speaking? The FBI can't, is very important. We can't, now by the way, he went missing, Rogue, in 2008. This is four years ago. Now it's very, very important. This kid pornographer Very important we need the public which means we don't actually need your help because we can drone anyone we want anywhere We need you to be thinking about this guy in association with child pornography Toth is a danger to society the allegations made against him in his in the charges that have been brought

1:13:29 are serious and they're the type of charges that could get him into a lot of trouble with our youth. Toth is an individual that can blend... The guy's making it up clearly. He can get in a lot of trouble with our... What? What are you saying, douche? ...as you mentioned, he's been a camp counselor, he's been a school teacher, he's the type of... Why don't you just throw in like a Boy Scout leader, throw in a couple more things that can get people's mind occupied. ...person that that will blend into society and that's why it's very important that the public take a close look at the photograph and try to see if they recognize this guy. So this is a distraction, John, and it didn't take me long to figure it out. Okay, I want to hear what you say and let me add to your report there

1:14:14 This one really blew my mind because I've never seen this with anybody. I'm coming back from San Francisco and I go past the Clear Channel, CBS or one of the two, they have a giant electronic sign billboard. You know one of those LCD ones and there's the guy's picture. Have you seen this man? Wanted! FBI's most wanted and I'm looking what this on the billboard off a highway 80 from 2008 no less yeah now what what's the rush the rush is we need to associate the public's mind with someone else someone very dangerous camp counselor tutor school teacher and a male nanny also known as a mani

1:15:00 He's a manny, he's a Boy Scout leader, he's a guitar expert. I don't know, he's all these things. He is a child pornographer. Turns out, Senator Grassley is starting up his investigations on the Pentagon. Here's the report from a little over a year ago, which was big news, Anderson Cooper with Senator Grassley, and then it just went away. Senator Grassley, you were told that 5200 Defense Department employees had allegedly purchased child porn, and yet you're saying only 3500 of those names were cross-checked by a defense investigator to see if they were really DOD personnel. That's mind-boggling. Why weren't all of them cross-checked?

1:15:44 Well, we don't have an answer to that question, but it's quite obvious that the other 1,700 should have been cross-checked. And that's one of the answers to my questions that I want answered. And the implication of our question is they ought to be cross-checked. We ought to find out because we're talking about not just general pornography here. We're talking about child pornography. and child pornography, taking that down is a crime. And also there's an added factor here, considering the fact that there's a lot of secured information, national security information that the world shouldn't know, that a lot of times foreign operatives will use this sort of criminal activity

1:16:27 to blackmail to get information. So there's a lot of things here that are involved because it's a Defense Department issue as opposed to any other department of government. So Grassley is ramping up his investigation now and they did get one guy but that news report didn't really work. They tried that a couple weeks ago. A retired US Navy chief petty officer was arrested thrown in the brig 160 months in federal prison for receiving child pornography. Probably another Patsy, but that didn't go anywhere. No one picked that news report up at all. But Grassley is getting the investigation going and he's not stopping. He's saying, hey, you know, we need to know about this because, and it is, this is the entire problem, is not just that they're child pornographer lovers,

1:17:18 But you can be blackmailed and there's 1,700 names that have not been vetted in the Pentagon and I believe this is a preemptive strike to focus your mind on pedophiles or child pornographers and this crazy, just pulled a guy out of the hat. So it's meant to distract you. Well, it meant to distract you from what? From the Grassley investigation? Yes, of course. We don't want that to be on the news. We don't want the Pentagon people to be on the news. We want you to be thinking about the guy who's a camp counselor and he could be anywhere in any of these states. I'm not quite buying this because I mean it's possible but I don't see the FBI, the FBI would have to then be in cahoots with the child pornographers in the Pentagon. Yeah this is big man, dude. Dude? This is big.

1:18:15 This is, this, 1700, there were 5200 names, they narrowed it down to 1700. I'm telling you, these child freaks, they're everywhere in the highest levels of government. I don't think there's that many of them in the Pentagon. But, this is something fishy about this, and you have these pictures of the guy if you look at his poster. He's pretty much a chameleon, I mean he looks to me like a... Alright, alright, alright. Alright, we'll see. Well I mean it's fishy this guy should not be on, why is he the 10 most wanted? He's some douchebag, you know, and there's tons of these guys, like the way you say it, they're all over the place. And so why has this guy like been isolated? It makes no sense, your argument can't be refuted on that basis. No. But on the other hand, it just seems a little far-fetched.

1:19:08 Alright? Well that's my theory, I'm sticking to it. I believe there is something behind this guy though. Eric Justin Toth. What kind of a name is that? Yeah, really? Who cares? Whatever. Eric just a former private school teacher is wanted for alleged and he's not even been accused of allegedly. Yeah Allegedly even better like he's a guy who's been found guilty convicted and he escaped jail. It's even better, isn't it? It says that he's wanted for allegedly possession child pornography in Washington DC. It is alleged that in June of 2008

1:19:49 Images were found on a school camera. How do you what's that mean? I guess it's like a little snapshot camera they had around. Yeah, like I had been in tots possession. Yeah, that's hardly this is not much of a case. No, but they need a guy and then he's allegedly produced child pornography in Maryland says who this is a phony deal and then I see it on the billboard and Okay, so maybe I'm wrong. I think there's a tip of an iceberg situation here. I don't think it's a distraction at all. I think there's something going on. All right. We shall see. Well, the real distraction here in the United States of Gitmo Nation has just been fantastic. The producers of the largest reality show ever, the GOP X Factor,

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Rick Santorum Suspends Presidential Campaign

Rick Santorum suspended his campaign for the GOP nomination, leaving Mitt Romney as the presumptive nominee. The hosts note that Ron Paul remains in the race as the last conservative alternative. They discuss the delegate math in unbound states and speculate on the pressure applied to Santorum to exit the race.

rick santorum· ron paul· mitt romney· gop primary· delegates

1:20:34 They decided I guess somewhere they had a meeting and said look We got to kick someone off the island because it's boring and there's nothing happening We need to ramp this up and get into the live shows. We need Romney versus Obama so they conveniently forget that Ron Paul is still running for the president and presidential nomination. No, it's funny. So everywhere everywhere every station that pretends to have news says, well, it's all over now. It's now on to the general election. The race is on. The only station that I found was C-SPAN. Here's their 20 second report. Paul came out with a statement yesterday after Rick Santorum suspended his campaign. He said, congratulations to the senator on running such a spirited campaign. Dr. Paul is now the last and real conservative alternative to Mitt Romney. We plan to continue running hard, secure delegates, and press the fight for limited

1:21:31 constitutional government in Tampa. That's from the Ron Paul campaign. Here are some comments coming into us on Facebook regarding Santorum's decision. See, they couldn't even stick with it for 20 seconds. And now over to Facebook where we have to talk about Santorum again. Someone made this guy a deal. Someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Because you remember Santorum, he was believing it. It was in his eyes. This guy believed he could do it. You know, we forgot to mention when we talked about where the conventions are taking place that the Republican convention is in Florida. Ah, there you go. Perfect. Yeah, no, I agree with you. Santorum was in the groove. He thought he had a shot. And, you know, some people think that Foster Freeze told him to stop. And said, we're not giving you any more money. We did the calculations. It's not going to work. Who said Foster what? Foster Freeze is his number one benefactor. Oh.

1:22:30 No, no, no. Someone made, someone either threatened him, which I think is likely. I don't think he was that close to winning anything, but it's possible. Well, the ratings were just, everyone's suffering, you know, and we needed a new race and now we can continue and now we've got that horse face, Ann Romney, I'm sorry, the first horse face of America. She's all over and she's tweeting and oh, it's just... Oh, Romney's wife? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she said, you know, like, I was at home and who is it? Some woman said she's never worked a day in her life and it's just... So, you know, well, let me play this first. So there was one local station.

1:23:18 who actually have a little segment called Reality Check and they did do a decent job of saying, hey, you know, there's all kinds of pos- I mean, hey, Romney could fall over dead tomorrow. Anything can happen. There's still half a year to go before the convention. But anything could happen, so it's not over. Over and over for the next few weeks is how by Santorum dropping out, Romney is guaranteed the nomination. But is that true? Look, it's anyone's guess as to where all these delegates will go. But consider this. In the South, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, those delegates very well may go to former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who says he's not leaving the race. But because those are bound states, the delegates could only vote for Gingrich in the second round.

1:24:07 In states like Colorado, Nevada, Minnesota, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas, because the delegates are unbound. Removing Santorum from the mix will likely help Congressman Paul wrap up more delegates. Then again, it could help Governor Romney wrap up the nomination if the delegates move that way. Ultimately though, we don't know what will happen yet because we don't know who these delegates are. What we do know, there's a lot of race left with a whole new dynamic. Now that's a proper report and you know I agree. Romney could come out and say I'm a scruncher and half the country goes oh no he's a scruncher. Anything could happen. The guy could trip up and anything could go wrong and he's not the nominee until he's the nominee but now everyone is just you know the just it makes me sad sad. But I got very happy when I saw Bobcat Goldwaite's new movie

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

God Bless America Movie Review

The hosts review Bobcat Goldthwait's film "God Bless America," a dark satire about a man who goes on a killing spree against reality TV stars and uncivilized citizens. They praise the film's monologues regarding the decline of American culture and encourage listeners to support the director by purchasing the film legally.

bobcat goldthwait· god bless america· movie review· netflix· satire

1:25:03 We talked about it. I have two clips from the movie because it's available on The way he's done it interesting He's made it available on Netflix and Amazon first and then he's going into theatrical release and I hope for Bobcat That this movie does phenomenally well. It is a great movie. It's called God bless America alert alert now because he did it this way It's already on the torrent sites Please don't download it from the torrent or you know if you do for your own copy is watch it pay for it You know you pay you pay a couple bucks on Amazon or whatever pay help the guy out so the premise of this movie is

1:25:42 And the actor's good, I forget his name, he's a known actor, but not that well known obviously. And he's divorced and he's watching TV and he's seeing nothing but crap, you know the kind of stuff that we sit in our underwear going like, oh my god, I can't believe this is America. And the kind of a thread throughout the whole thing is this show called American Superstar, which is a total ripoff of American Idol. It even has the kind of the same logo. And there's some moron who can't sing. And then he becomes like the laughingstock, exactly like what's happening with Idol and with America's Got Talent and all this stuff.

1:26:20 And you know he's made fun of and it's at the whole The Kardashians everyone. He's just freaking out about how idiotic and all people can talk about is Angelina Jolie, and like what has become of our country and then he finds out he has a brain tumor So he decides after deciding not to kill himself. He's gonna go first He decides to kill himself then you see something on the television that changes his mind Why should I kill myself when I can kill this person? It was just annoying so he and then he hooks up with this young girl and they go on a killing spree essentially I'm not gonna tell you how the rest of the movie goes, but I did pull two clips of So you actually rented the movie and watched the whole thing? I sure did. That was good for you. And it's a short one, it's like an hour and 40 minutes. And it's the special effects, which is mainly blood, are good. Because there's people getting shot up. If you like guns, you'll like this. It's just funny. He's just shooting everybody. Here's two monologues. Here he is at his office and he's talking to some douchebag who's in the cubicle next to him.

1:27:20 I mean, nobody talks about anything anymore. They just regurgitate everything they see on TV or hear on the radio or watch on the web. When was the last time you had a real conversation with someone without somebody texting or looking at a screen or a monitor over your head? You know, a conversation about something that wasn't celebrities, gossip, sports or pop politics. You know, something important or something personal. So what so that's the that's the first bit there, and I was like yeah that hits my buttons That's exactly true And here's the second one or that we're supposed to support their freedom of speech when they don't give a fuck about yours or mine So you're against freedom of speech now. That's in the Bill of Rights man I would defend their freedom of speech if I thought it was in jeopardy

1:28:15 I would defend their freedom of speech to tell uninspired, bigoted, blowjob, gay-bashing, racist and rape jokes all under the guise of being edgy. But that's not the edge. That's what sells. They couldn't possibly pander any harder or be more commercially mainstream because this is the, oh no, you didn't say that generation, where a shocking comment has more weight than the truth. No one has any shame anymore, and we're supposed to celebrate it. I saw a woman throw a used tampon at another woman last night on network television. A network that bills itself as today's woman's channel. Kids beat each other blind and post it on YouTube. I mean, do you remember when eating rats and maggots on Survivor was shocking? It all seems so quaint now.

1:29:03 I'm sure the girls from Two Girls One Cup are gonna have their own dating show on VH1 any day now. I mean, why have a civilization anymore if we no longer are interested in being civilized? So that kind of sets it up for you. It's an outstanding movie. And just keep your guns locked up while you're watching it because it kind of gives you an idea to go out and just shoot everybody. Very, very good movie. That's our movie review for this month. It certainly is. I don't often give one, but that is the one I'd suggest you go and take a look, particularly because Bobcat's not a very well-known guy as a director.

1:29:44 As far as I know. He's done a few movies. He did this first movie I think was Shakespeare's The Clown which was a another kind of an interesting edgy movie about a drunken clown. And then he did a movie that I don't think has ever gotten into release which was called The Dog or something like that. It's probably on Netflix. his list of films which is the one he could never get let's see sleeping I think Sleeping Dog Lie let's sleeping dogs lie right right right and he did It's a bit the movie starts off with this with the girl at the table The daughter and the team and a family dinner talking about how she jacked off the dog God So that movie didn't get a lot of legs with Hollywood they didn't work in a district got no distribution right so as the guy needs some help so Go buy his movie. You can always download the torrent later, but go buy his movie speaking of Hollywood for a second there John I

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Madonna Career Decline and Hollywood Predictions

Based on the record-breaking second-week sales drop of the album "MDNA," the hosts predict Madonna may be the next target of the "Hollywood Whacker." They discuss the "Red Book" theory where celebrities are worth more dead than alive to their estates and record labels.

madonna· mdna· hollywood whacker· red book· album sales

1:30:44 Another tale of the Hollywood Whacker. Red Book prediction. Okay, got the Red Book in front of me. Remember, you want to know who's next? Madonna. Madonna, you think so? Yep. What makes you think so? Her latest album, MDNA, had the second biggest, had the biggest second week drop in chart history. Fell from number one down 88 percent.

1:31:20 Only sold 46,000 copies in the second week. She's over. She's done with she's toast She's worth more dead than alive. It's time for her to go So I hate to say it because I I still kind of have a soft spot for her But I think she's next on the list and these things always come in threes So you're big yeah yours your basic thesis here is that if you're worth more dead than alive You might as well gonna be dead exactly So you don't want to be worth more dead than alive? No, no, no. That is my advice from the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group. If you are in Hollywood, never, ever, ever be worth more dead than alive because that's what will happen to you. So.

1:32:09 That is my prediction for Maddie. Not feeling too good about it, but that's what it is. Yeah, it's a long shot. Write it down, man. I wrote it down and I highlighted it. That's what I do. And of course, if I could really go on a limb, I could tell you how. Because, you know, she's a fitness buff, so it's not... It could be like... Heart attack doesn't make sense for women, but they're so brazen that they might even pull that one off. But the whole thing being MDMA as we take off on MDMA, maybe it'll be some kind of drug overdose or something. Plane wreck. That's the only thing I can think is appropriate for her is a plane crash somewhere in Africa.

1:32:54 Malawi. Oh yeah, it has to be a plane wreck some place in Malawi. In Mali or Malawi. Oh, Malawi, that's where she buys her kids. So how about Al-Qaeda shoots down her plane in Malawi with a stinger? Well actually it would be the Al-Shabaab. I keep it up to date. I don't think Al-Qaeda's got the chops anymore. Al-Shabaab. Al-Shabaab. Al-Shabaab. Yeah. Let me see. Well, we're on that for a second. Yemen heating up with Al-Qaeda claiming credit for two gas pipeline attacks. US response kills 12 with a drone strike. And of course, if you just Google then Yemen-China. SoCo International this week said it had agreed to sell its operations in Yemen to China's Sinochem Petroleum Limited for $465 million.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Pakistan Pipeline Politics and Bin Laden Widows

CNN's Nick Robertson reported on the widows of Osama bin Laden being held in Pakistan. The hosts argue this reporting is designed to frame Pakistan as a "bad actor" to the American public. This narrative coincides with geopolitical tension over the TAPI pipeline and China's increasing influence in the region.

pakistan· tapi pipeline· osama bin laden· nick robertson· cnn

1:33:55 So looks like they need to blow up some pipelines get the China's out. That's what it's all about Pakistan they are You know we have a real problem with Pakistan Because Pakistan we need that pipeline to go through Pakistan to get to India. This is the the tapi pipeline so the news comes out major breakthrough The Indian oil ministry official said, you know, we're going to sweeten the pot a little bit and we're going to give a bigger transit fee to Pakistan so they'll get 20% more gas from the pipeline. But in the news, you know, remember we had the guy all of a sudden, a guy we have nothing on. He's on the, what is it, the friends and family list of the Department of, the State Department.

1:34:48 Yeah, for stock. Yeah, now he's $10 million. What's the name of that list again? I don't know. Yeah. But we need to put into the mind of our people through the media, Pakistan bad. Pakistan is so bad that they knew bin Laden was in a bottom bot. And how are they going to do it? Well, just bring out the bitches! They were the wives of the world's most wanted terrorist and now for the first time we're seeing images of Osama Bin Laden's widows and children currently under house detention in Pakistan. Our senior international correspondent Nick Robertson is in London. Let me just say something about Nick Robertson for those of you who may have forgotten. Nick Robertson is now the senior correspondent. He was the satellite operator for Wolf Blitzer during Gulf War I.

1:35:38 He literally focused the dish and twiddled the knobs, and now he's the senior correspondent. The guy is not a journalist, he's a compromised shill. He's got new video of the notorious family. Nick, when you first saw this video and you were there in a Bada-Bad, all of our viewers remember, what jumped out at you? What jumped out, John? What jumped out? Yeah, what jumped out at you when you saw these? I don't know anything jumped out. A badabad is what I like to say though. A badabad. A badabad. Well the fact that the women, the mothers of these children seem more intent on praying than they are paying attention to their children. One of them is reading a Quran and a child seems to come up to her and wants some attention and... Go away kid, I'm reading the Quran.

1:36:19 on here. He indicates for it to move away, kept in very, very spartan conditions there by the Pakistani authorities. They're literally in a jail cell with a mattress and a bunch of kids with a stick. And so this is a horrible, horrible dehumanizing situation they put these women in. very very conservative women they're covered head to toe this is exactly what you would expect the type of woman to be married to Osama bin Laden somebody who would have stuck out had they set foot outside that compound in a battle battle

1:37:06 So they're saying these women and their head to toe in Habib's whatever, burqas. That's the whole outfit. It's not a burqa. It's a different there's a name for it, but it's a complete black covering head to toe. And they are everywhere in the Middle East. If anyone's ever been anywhere in the Middle Eastern, and I'm assuming if you look at photos of Pakistan, you'll see them there too. This is not standing out. They would have stuck out like a sore thumb, John. They because they were only reading the Quran. They would have stuck out like a sore thumb at a Rolling Stones concert, maybe. So that's the entire purpose of this report is to say the Pakistanis they knew. Has anyone given anyone a really good explanation for that? Because a lot of experts doubt the Pakistani line. Although when I spoke to Peter Bergen last week, he's not convinced they necessarily knew.

1:37:57 Well, certainly some Pakistanis would have known. But what level were they inside the intelligence services or were they even anything to do with the intelligence services? That's impossible for us to make a judgment. And there certainly are people or would have been people right after 9-11 who would have been sympathetic to Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. But the bottom line is we don't have a concrete answer on that. Yeah, but we want to make sure you think that the Pakistanis knew. So there's a lot of stuff going on with Pakistan. We are not being friendly to them right now because they suck. And that's what that's about. I'm looking at, uh, I decided to go to Google and just look up various Pakistan images and religious areas. I've got,

1:38:45 When I get about a third of the way down, here's a couple of women in that outfit just casually picked out. There's just random photos on Google and that outfit is here, it's there, it would not be unusual to see it. And you know in London, you see lots of women, but you know what they're wearing underneath that? The most expensive, sexy lingerie you can imagine. They are they are completely oh yeah, oh yeah, they because you see them going to Harrods And they go straight to the lingerie department, and they are buying some amazingly hot stuff If you get that word out you're gonna have a bunch of punk kids just pull it off it off Yeah, that's that's a good way to get around in London. Yeah, and then I'll quit my pipeline conversation with yet another movie

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Burma Democracy Movement

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promoted the film "The Lady" about Aung San Suu Kyi to signal U.S. support for the democracy movement in Burma. The hosts interpret this as "greasing the wheels" for Western oil companies like Shell and BP to enter the country and displace Chinese interests.

hillary clinton· burma· myanmar· aung san suu kyi· the lady

1:39:39 As you know, it's very important to... well, Lucifer... oh wait a minute, I actually have to play the Clippity Clop jingle. Hold on a second. Because Lucifer is ramping things up for Burma. Let me give you her announcement. Here is Lucifer. It's Clippity Clop. The message is clear. It's Clippity Clop. So she's greasing the wheels for everyone to go into Burma. We're gonna have you know, we got to kick out the Chiners there and bring all the big Western oil companies in how does she do it? Thank you all very much and You are in for such a treat this This is a terrific movie one that I had the great privilege of watching on my way to Burma what a life he's on the plane and

1:40:30 Hey Hill, it's time to watch a movie. Oh, okay. Yeah, put it on the big screen But anymore caviar is there any more caviar? Did you get some more champagne? Where the blinis? Hey, what? California sparkling wine. I want champagne. This is crap. What are you giving me horse horse piss? Oh Michael just said movies have such a powerful voice in our culture, in every culture. And it is both exciting and profoundly moving that filmmakers use it to Do more than just entertain. Oh really? Entertainment is a very important part of the human experience So it's very interesting. So really so this is more than just entertaining. You mean it's education for us so we can all understand? But the kind of educational and inspirational Inspiration. Mission that Michael referred to is very important in today's world and this film portrays a woman whose story is

1:41:34 needs to be in theaters and living rooms across the world. I want to thank Chris Dodd for sponsoring the showing here tonight. And I just really wanted to come by to underscore how important this moment in the history of Aung San Suu Kyi and Burma happened to be. This is the film The Lady. Oh, it's the one about that woman. Yeah, the one that she kissed. That has got to be dull. Aung San Suu Kyi as she becomes the core of Burma's democracy movement. So we're moving on Burma. We're getting it all set up. It's going to be a great, you know, they've joined the community of democracies so that and we reported on this Shell BP. Everyone's ready to rock and go in and take over in Burma, also known as Myanmar.

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

IRS Commissioner on Documented Undocumented Aliens

During a National Press Club appearance, the IRS Commissioner was questioned about "documented undocumented aliens" paying taxes. The hosts mock the terminology and the Commissioner's evasive answers regarding identity theft and tax collection from illegal immigrants.

irs· c-span· undocumented aliens· identity theft· taxes

1:42:29 I like the name Burma better. They're going to go back to it, you watch. Well clearly they're... Because it's easier to sell tourism to Burma than Myanmar. Yeah, exactly. So, I think it's a beautiful thing. So, before we go to the donation segment, which is coming up, I thought I was going to get something cool from... The head of the IRS was on C-SPAN. Oh, there goes my phone. He, um, well I have to go kill this phone hang on a second. Alright, go take it off the hook. For those of you new to the program, John actually has a phone he can take off the hook so you get a busy signal when you call his headquarters there in Abbottabad. Are you back? No, maybe he didn't take it off the hook, maybe he's actually talking to someone. It's another one of those sales calls.

1:43:26 That's all I get. I know, off the hook. So anyway, I'm expecting to get some good information because tax day is coming up along with our 400th anniversary. Yeah, it's the same day. Go figure. So I figure I'm going to get some good information from this guy. So let's play the IRS guy at the National Press Club. There are hundreds of thousands of undocumented, documented undocumented aliens in the USA. They are taking advantage of all available social amenities. Is the IRS doing anything to collect taxes from these documented undocumented aliens? You know it's a great, it's a great question. Oh, that's way too, that's not a great question! This is not a great question! Oh, so I figured that, let's skip it. Let's go to, he's got another one here. Let's get to this one.

1:44:12 What is the agency doing to combat identity theft? That's a great question. No! No! No! That's not a great question. Not only that. It's an unexpected question. It's not a great question. What is with the documented answer? You know, it's something you'd have to think about. You'd have to get back to him on. So never mind. Let's just go to donations. Oh my God. But just let me ask you one question. What is a documented undocumented alien? A documented undocumented alien it means he's illegally in here but he's and we know it there's some sort of a deal you make with the IRS that you can pay taxes and so you're kind of documented but you're not documented. This is crazy. Oh that's great. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Listener Donations and Alan Levene for Congress

The hosts process various listener donations, including a "Huntsman douchebag" request and stories from a submarine supply officer. They also mention Alan Levene's congressional campaign and thank the "slaves" for supporting the show's 399th episode through the value-for-value model.

alan levene· huntsman· value for value· donations· show 399

1:45:06 Yeah, we do have a few people to thank for this show, 399. Leading up to show 400 which will be on Sunday William Che in Douglaston, New York 168 88 he's the one who was sent as a note about the pronunciation of Huntsman in the douchebag thing oh yeah, he says after hanging my huntsman karma should be used for idiots remark Turned red back on me on show 398. I feel I sounded really harsh. Oh I'm sorry if anyone listening was put off or annoyed by that. So here's another $168.88 for my peace of mind and to save face, can I have a Huntsman douchebag shot for myself for being an idiot? Yeah, you bet.

1:45:52 Now, this, this, the plot thickens with, with William here. Also a clarification, Huntsman's pronunciation was pretty good. It was Adam's attempt to say those words that hurt my ears. Oh. Huntsman actually has a Taiwanese Mandarin accent, which is atypical to the mainlanders Beijing accent. Well now it's my fault. Apparently. What did I do wrong? I don't know, you should give yourself a douchebag. Well let me just do tapu atatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatat

1:46:49 Or this could be a company too, I don't know. Maybe he'll send us an email and explain who he is. Hey, is that where the CZ handguns come from? I don't know, maybe. From the Czech Republic? CZ is what that means. CZ, CZ? Could be. CZ-75 Shadow, someone recommended that to me. Yeah, don't... yeah. It's an expensive hobby to become a gun collector. I'll just tell you. The bullets on those better guns is expensive. Andrew Lemonsani in Plarts Unknown, $101.50, started listening to the show about a year ago, about the time he walked out on a job he loathed.

1:47:28 I spent the next eight months under or underemployed, hiking in the mountains, listening to the show, defaulting on my credit cards, borrowing from my father. It's one of our classic list. Classic, yeah. Welcome. Needless to say, I learned a lot in this time. I eventually landed not one, but two jobs and now I find myself increasingly busy. Opportunities suddenly everywhere. I have some extra cash. It's because he's been listening to the show and although I should pay my father back, it is also time I start the long road to knighthood. I've enclosed double dimes on the nickel. A hundred one dollars and fifty cents, double dimes on the nickel. Good donation for the dyslexic value for value. My friends, you should know that I'm not a CIS admin. I am a lowly server in a restaurant.

1:48:09 Oh, right on. Nobody wants to hire someone smart enough to have a degree in English, but dumb enough to major in the arts. My work did afford me an interesting opportunity to be a local food critic and hit people in the mouth. To hit a local food critic in the mouth. So he hit the local, I'm sorry, what am I reading here? He hit the local food critic in the mouth while she was a woman, sat with her husband. The endeavor garnered smiles and a nice tipped boot. Fuck Monsanto. How many times has this guy... How many times has he just dropped that bomb? Anyway, okay. Because he's serving GMO snacks all day, that's why. Alright, onward. Sir Pater-Snakes. Pater-Snakes!

1:48:55 in Amsterdam, $69.96. So maybe we broke our record here. From Sir Pete. Pete8. A sexy palindrome donation in the general direction of knighthood, also worth a jaw harp. An ocarina, official referee whistle, cow and dove call whistle. Use at own discretion. He needs an in the morning to his nephew. In the morning! And as for those other things, we haven't really got any of those. And he doesn't mention that. Oh, you got yours. You want a jam? Maybe later. It's annoying. You're right. It sucks. Gregory Malleus. Wait a minute, let me finish. We are happy no agenda slaves. Exactly. That song anywhere. Yeah, exactly. Even on the slide whistle. Gregory Malleus in Lidditz, Pennsylvania. 69-69. The trend continues. The streak.

1:50:07 continues. I've been a boner for far too long he says please de-douche me and send birthday karma his way. We'll put you on the list and he was born in 1984 the year of Orwell on Friday the 13th. Since my birthday this year again falls on Friday the 13th I thought that a donation to the best podcast in the universe would be a best way to celebrate. Thank you very much. You've been de-douched. Jake Davis in Honolulu, 6969 as we continue with that little thread. I'm a supply officer on a submarine out of Pearl Harbor and I've been listening to the podcast since show 200. I'd like to thank you guys for keeping me sane on our last deployment. Wow, that's what they listen to underwater, huh? All ships at sea. During port calls I would download months of the podcast at a time and listen to them as we were under the water.

1:50:59 Wow. Last month I introduced my brother Topher to the show and ever since he's been saying he's going to donate in my name. I think to shame me for being a long time listener without donating a whole lot. I've made a small feud, small ones along the way. Anyway, I'd like to beat him to the punch. and make my own donation, please give Topher some karma as he just found out he's got a human resource on the way and I could use some karma too as my smoking hot wife and I are trying to get another human resource before I deploy again. Oh, well you could always, you can always ask the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to come in and help you out there. Yeah, we are staying in his guest room of Reverend Hawaii.

1:51:37 So now we can say to all ships at and under sea yeah all ships under sea Brian birdjet in parts unknown 69 sir. I think that's sir Ryan didn't he become sir Ryan? I think so I said Brian to yeah What You know yeah, I get one bit off One bit. But I can actually play a song. Playing a song is not the same as accompaniment. Well, I just want to jam with you, man. Yeah, we'll think about it. Anyway, 69-69 Thomas Kilbright in Waco.

1:52:23 Texas which is right up the street from you 6666 Derby Dyke in Tucson, Arizona $60 Mary D and 5510 double equals on the dime last time donated she has her job Carmen no surprise here It worked so I'm donating the first bonus from my new job. I also want to share my Gardasil story a few years back I was at my yearly visit to the vagina doctor and she asked if I had had the shot and I told her no and I wasn't interested. I'm married and it's my understanding that it was more for ladies with multiple partners. Her reply, you never know your husband could cheat on you or you could be raped. Oh my goodness, really? That was the first and last time I saw her.

1:53:07 Wow, you can play the Michelle Obama clip from the Christmas inviting the child on stage come up here Yes, it's become a common phrase at our home and our cats love it. Here we go. Yes. Here's a little one you come on up By your command. It's a classic. Hey, that's a great story, thank you. I can't believe it. And you're right on. You can believe it. Tell that doctor to go to hell. Yeah, really. Your husband could cheat on you. What a horrible thing to say. Yeah, and I could kick you in the teeth. Just an idea.

1:53:50 Kyle Kinzel in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Double nickels on the dime. Please douchebag the boners and give karma to the donors. Okay. Also, as someone who has a music degree, I can say with certainty that the slide whistle is awesome! Douchebag! You've got karma. I'm not playing mine anymore. I'm afraid now because... No, no, we're gonna play the... I've got a moment where we can play it. Oh really? Somebody I think wanted a... We can play it together? I don't know if it came in on the notes or not. Can we play together? No, somebody wanted a hit at the end and I don't have it on this list. A hit song? They wanted a karma with a slide whistle stinger.

1:54:31 And I sent it, I think I sent it over to JC. I don't think I have it. We may have to do that on Sunday. I just want to play a song. I want to jam. Can you do a Jumpin' Jack Flash? No. Onward. Maxwell Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana. I'm miss serious Dvorak and curry. I forgot to include my know with my double nickel on the dime donation I like a double D douching for Scott McLaughlin is now a donor not a boner and Prime Minister Harper for all the great things He's doing in Canada like actually passing a budget on time good stuff. Okay, D douching You've been D douche I'm sure everyone agrees with the Harper, but okay, I'm sure everybody doesn't Alexander Walter Lenoxa, Kansas $50

1:55:18 Alf Morgan, John and Adam, I'm writing to request... I'm writing to requ... Do that again. I'm writing to request a correction to a recent bookkeeping error in show 391. My wife Stacy sent in $200 to the show on behalf of my three children so I could be an executive producer on my birthday. Unfortunately, you recorded Stacy as the executive producer. Oh no! Indicates she was birthday wishes to her father. This did provide for some great Who's Your Daddy jokes during the next weekend. At least credit the money to me so I can someday reach my goal. You know, you do your own bookkeeping and you get the credits. I like it. I like it. He should see his wife walking around like, who's your daddy? That's funny. He's submitting this remittance as a wedding present. Please send out some wedding karma to my friend Brooke and her fiance Jason, who will be married this Saturday. I wish them all the best as they start their new life together. And it sounds like she'll need the karmic help to keep her douchebag father from making a scene at the ceremony. Hail the foot.

1:56:17 You've got karma. I know as promised you may not know but I suspect you do is you have similar problems by raising money for a campaign is very difficult so any help to channel your listeners to the campaign website and donate is really appreciated I'm serious if I'm elected I'll remember my friends. What's his website again? I think it's alanlevineforcongress.com Yeah, I believe so

1:56:59 But if you google Alan, A-L-L-A-N-L-E-V-E-N-E, if you google him, you'll find it. Gert van Trijp. Gert van Trijp. Gert van Trijp. Fifty dollars. And that closes the donation segment for show 3991. Thank everybody for helping us and go to noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org, slash NA and channel Dvorak. to continue to support us in our efforts. Yes, and of course you had the big 400 show come up on Sunday. I'm sure a lot of people holding back for that and we have the 404 show coming up right after that. And not to, well, you should definitely remember the 420 show. So we've got that. And there's another one, a lot of four things. Somebody mentioned that we should do a 411 celebration. Oh, 411. For an informational show. Yeah. Wow.

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Healthy Surprise Review

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Jule van de Meer, Sir David Rudolf Bucker, and Dame Cathy Siminich. They also review a gift box from Healthy Surprise, discussing the merits of various vegan snacks like wasabi seaweed and their shared dislike for kale chips.

knighthood· healthy surprise· vegan snacks· kale· gluten-free

1:57:48 Are we doing a 400.5? Is that something you want to do? I don't know, maybe. I mean, I'd like to. I don't know how many people are interested. The 200.5 show, people can still listen to that. Let me think about it. What we should do is the two of us should listen to 200.5 and see what's changed. Why don't we, we can listen to the show and then comment on it and record that. I was thinking that exact same thing, old-fashioned, you know, radio stuff, you know, it's like a clip show. Yeah, like the Muppets. Like those two old Muppet dudes. Let's listen to ourselves talk. And then maybe throw in a one-liner once in a while. I love it. It's your birthday, birthday! On no agenda! I get to spit it in once in a while. John Johnson Jr.'s fiance, happy birthday. Bruce Salkowicz congratulates his wife, she celebrates on the 16th. Paul Boyer turns 42 today. And Gregory Malius... Malius?

1:58:49 He turns 28 on the 13th. Happy birthday from all your buddies here the best podcast in the universe And we have a couple of nights today John as you know people are getting in they want to have a ring will be Suspending the ring campaign at the end of the year and there will be a new recognition that we send out to everybody. A tribute. A tribute, is that what it is? I don't know what it is. It's a little, you know, well, it's kind of a tribute. It'll be a thing. Yeah, it'll be a nice thing. So we're going to come up with a new beautiful item that you can wear on your person. And of course, the Knights of the No Gender Roundtable, they will continue. And it's very important. Our knights are the ones that actually keep us going in the leaner times. So if you can grab your blade there for a second.

1:59:42 Jules van de Meer, David Rudolf Bucker and Kathy S... Siminich. Step forward, please. All three of you have donated to the No Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more. We highly appreciate that. And therefore we induct you into the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. So I hereby pronounce thee Sir Jule, Sir Dafydd, and Dame Cathy, all knights and a dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. Hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, wenches and beer and hot pants and booze for you. Thank you so much. This is the this is the model that we've chosen And it's interesting to see how the model is morphing a little bit as times get tougher people sending us coins Silver and gold coins people sending us food. It's all appreciated. Thanks again to healthy surprise calm Joe over there send us a nice box

2:00:38 of healthy gluten-free vegan snacks tasty. You know these things are funny we've actually done a... Now normally when you're doing these social shows you don't accept food it's not really a good policy. But these are... Because you don't want to eat it because you know you might die from what someone puts in it. Yeah. Yeah. So but we know this guy so we're no problem. So immediately there's a big thing of... It's interesting because there's a whole subculture of snack makers that are out of the mainstream and they make snacks for these, you know, I guess, I don't know, these little small stores and vegan places. Like this one, Kayayayaya Foods that make this. You know, it's a whole industry. Absolutely. A bag of Alive and Radiant Kale Crunch.

2:01:29 Which I can assure you is not edible. Mickey loves the kale. No. Ms. Mickey digs the kale, man. Well, there's, you know, we had, uh... Somebody at the I took the bag of kale chips, which is in the last batch which to me was like eating lawn clippings I took it to the office and everybody who I said one person at the vague and vegan there I think something goes wrong with your brain the vegan loved it loved the stuff I think she may have just been putting it on there is one thing in this box that is outstanding the chocolate and I haven't had the chocolate yet. It's this Samba 99 Kapuapsu antioxidant bar. It's shaped like a triangle. When you take it out of the box, if you have it there, it looks like a gob of goo and it's organic Kapuapsu pulp.

2:02:24 Some Brazil nuts and some cane sugar. It's absolutely fantastic. Yeah, you can't eat the whole thing You can cut it up into like four pieces is very tasty. I would I would eat this I'll have it right after the show if Mickey hasn't already scarfed it you're good. No, there's two of them in there Oh good miss Mickey. I get love she when the box arrives. She's like oh, oh So we got, I'm looking at some of our back, we've been taking notes and giving stars. Oh, with the Dvorak family there? Yep, the whole group. And the ones we really like so far are the wasabi roasted seaweed snacks from Annie Chun. Five stars or six. Also we put WOW behind Mrs. May's pineapple.

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Syria Ceasefire and Turkey Buffer Zone

A ceasefire is scheduled for Syria, but violence has reportedly spilled over the border into Turkey. Turkey is considering establishing a "buffer zone" on the Syrian side of the border. The hosts explain that this could trigger NATO's Article 5, leading to a full-scale military intervention.

syria· turkey· ceasefire· buffer zone· nato

2:03:11 Which is I'm just a pineapple. Can you keep I think you can keep this stuff forever right for the nuclear holocaust? We can it looks like it's from the looks of it. Yeah. Yeah, it looks radiation proof There's someone in the chat room going like no ads my ass these guys are doing a commercial. Yeah, yeah, yeah revolutions another one of these new brands apple raisin cookies and it's like I'm sure this is a yeah, this is a commercial. Yeah, this stuff. I'm guaranteeing is not edible Hey, have you checked the new you have a subscription I believe if you check the New York Times is Syria in the news John Yeah, why don't you take a look at the front page right in front of me? Okay? Okay? What do you think would be a little hair? Let's do an ask Adam I'm gonna ask you to guess what the top headline is Do you want to do that Adam jingle or should I just give it the jingle okay? Let's get an ask Adam jingle out here Ask

2:04:19 Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Prosecutor files charge of second-degree murder and shooting of Martin. Is there any... A picture of the family, huge picture. Is there something below the fold? Well, also above the fold is Amazon to cut e-book prices. Few options as North Korea nears launching. Wealthy group seeks to reform election giving. And now below the fold we've got Romney taking steps to narrow his gender gap. I think if he zipped up it would help.

2:05:13 Britain in Chinese scandal from a harrow to mysterious victim. There is nothing on Syria I'm going I'm going now. They have the little blurbs at the very bottom just above the Conrad Hotel Advertisement on the front page International a four to ten deadline near for Syria a ceasefire is scheduled to take place soon in Syria but diplomats are already looking at backup options and the role that Russia may play in them and And also then the next one is antibiotics and livestock. First Algerian president dies, which is probably something. Drug maker fined 1.2 billion. Yeah. So let me, uh, so something is happening with Syria. Well, let me look on page A4 and see what it says here. Okay. So there's two things going on.

2:06:04 The first one is, here's a 30 second clip which is extremely important. And now the violence has spilled over. Syrian gunfire reaching across the border and into a refugee camp as government forces pursued fleeing members of the Free Syrian Army. Turkey started talking of setting up a buffer zone to ensure the security of its southern border and to protect civilians fleeing from violence in Syria. This also raised serious concerns that that could undermine diplomatic efforts to end the conflict by setting the stage for fully-fledged foreign military intervention. So Turkey of course is the country where the Friends of Syria, or actually the new branding Friends of the Syrian People, multi-party talks were held. So Turkey is extremely important.

2:07:01 And when they say they're setting up a buffer zone, I've looked at the map. So Syria and Turkey border on each other. Guess which side the buffer zone is on? It's not, it's on the Syrian side. Yeah. So that is by definition, encroachment, by definition, that is an invasion of their, of their turf. So they've set up this, so now we have firing on the border. We have, you know, now all of a sudden where it was only in homes and this is way down from the border by the way, homes and what's the other one? Abab, Aman, I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, whatever. We're not on television. We don't need to be. Go on. Well, don't get so antsy with me. Go on. So. You know, I'm looking at pictures just to interrupt.

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

McCain and Lieberman Call for Arming Syrian Rebels

Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman appeared on CNN from the Syrian border to advocate for arming the Free Syrian Army and establishing a no-fly zone. They argue that the U.S. has a moral responsibility to stop the "slaughter" and prevent Iran from gaining a strategic victory. The hosts criticize the senators as "warmongers" following a familiar script.

john mccain· joe lieberman· syria· no-fly zone· free syrian army

2:07:56 You tell me to go on then shut up go on shut up. What am I a fun page a for they have this picture of home homes? Did you see any pic they did to this place? It looks like Lebanon, so here's what happens John when you fire upon? The buffer zone or the border of a NATO based country Rule 5 goes into effect. You know what rule 5 is don't you I'm gonna find out shortly Well, this is the one, this is what NATO is all about. Rule 5 is where if any NATO country is attacked, all other NATO countries have to come to its aid. Right. So, what do we need to do? We need to roll out the script. Who do we bring in to roll out the same sorry-ass script? I mean, identical to it? Three people are needed for this script, for this play to play out. One, Anderson Pooper. Two,

2:08:57 Don't know you're telling me John McCain. Oh God yes three Sarkozy Joe Lieberman oh yeah, yeah, let I've seen the same stooges I have every stooges. That's right. I have edited down is curly I have edited down the conversation they had on Anderson Cooper show we will have to interrupt it frequently mainly because you'll be going oh Here is the conversation. They are there on the border. They made a little trip. Hold on a second You're telling me that those two boneheads have actually gone there. Yeah, they're there now They had a little road trip and with perks as you'll hear Lieberman say and listen to them unfold the exact same script which

2:09:46 with John McCain in the lead and he actually interrupts Lieberman at one point to make sure that the message is very very clear. Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman also toured the camps today on a separate trip than Anand's getting a better reception than Mr. Anand who spoke by phone. Senator McCain, the Syrian government agreed to withdraw its troops from major cities by today as part of Kofi Annan's peace plan. Has the UN been played here? I love this. This Anderson with his hip talk. Had they been played? Yeah, they've been played. It sounds like a leading question. Well, guess what? Clearly they've gone beyond the deadline. Oh, I think it's very obvious they've been played just like the Arab League proposal. It's in the script! Let's all say played. That sounds cool. All the kids will love it.

2:10:30 uh... by charas i had agreed to before they were played uh... that fact is anderson's active by charas i'd withdraws from the city than the protesters obviously take over and uh... frozen protesters are not just better than that and that is protestors that resistance will take over the city's the moment that tanks and artillery are withdrawn this this man can't be trusted to me one of the most profoundly troubling parts of the trip to a perk of the trip one of the perks of the trip profoundly troubling perks with all the hookers you got Lieberman John McCain and I have made parts he said perks said parts he said perks late again yeah I will

2:11:12 This man can't be trusted. To me, one of the most profoundly troubling parts of the trip... No, I said parts, you're right. I'm sorry. It sounded like perks to me. ...that John McCain and I have made these last couple of days is talking to the Syrian opposition, to the pre-Syrian army, and to find outwithstanding all the sympathetic statements from world leaders, they've basically gotten zero. They're running out of ammunition. they're running out of ammo. I don't have bullets and they're being fired at every day so no I think the answer is that we've got to arm the Syrian opposition and only one... And by the way while this is playing they got a guy who's shooting a machine gun in the back. No it's a close-up shot or like a

2:11:58 You know, upper body shot. And the guy's like looking out the window and then he's taking aim and he's shooting, you know, he's like taking aim, looking out the window, see if he... Because it's a total PR shot. The guy is obviously not shooting at someone who's shooting back. Assad feels threatened by that kind of counterattack. even think about leaving hopefully. Now get ready for it. Or going to real negotiations. Look we've met with these people and any of our colleagues in Congress who are troubled because we don't know who they are ought to come over here and meet with them as well. Hey come on down there's a party over here come on come on down to the border you should meet with them it's cool They're all nice. They're patriots. They're patriots John patriots of what their patriots? They're not extremists and they all said to us if the US and the moderate Arab world doesn't get involved in helping them then there will be an opening for Al-Qaeda and the Islamist extremists. Oh, so if we don't do it Al-Qaeda is gonna come in. Oh, okay. Oh Consulting with LL Sharpton get ready. You can't let that happen

2:12:58 It's not a fair fight. It's not a fair fight. It's not fair. It's not a fair fight. Don't we want don't we at some point say enough of this slaughter slaughter. I say it's once again communications equipment. You know, communications equipment doesn't do very well against helicopters. and artillery and I understand the reluctance of the American people. Now what is communications equipment good for? It's good for directing airstrikes from NATO which are coming and John McCain will explain that to you. But the job of leaders of the American people is to explain why we should do what we can to stop this. Aha! So here's the message.

2:13:39 American leaders need to explain to the American public why we're going to do what we need to do. Another war, why we're doing another war. Here it comes. And I think that a sanctuary would be very important, a no-fly zone. A no-fly zone? No, start with the no-fly zone. No-fly zone, oh yeah. The Prime Minister of Turkey alluded to it today. I think that See, the Prime Minister of Turkey, very important because they're going to be attacked. Turkey is going to get... We talked about this months ago. Turkey will be attacked, NATO attack, in come the planes. The world is getting sick of this slaughter. We're sick of the slaughter. Maybe, just maybe we're starting some movement in the right direction. Maybe. Senator Lieberman, there are a lot of Americans who say, look, and Senator McCain alluded to it, who say, look, another military involvement by the US overseas. To them you say what?

2:14:24 Well, I say two things. The first is... Now listen, Lieberman's going, he's gonna go off script and McCain will jump in to rectify. We've got a moral responsibility here. The whole... John, we have a moral responsibility. We need to start another war. That's more. Don't you feel moral about it? Not me. ...world does. You can't just stand by and watch people being slaughtered. Slaughter! Hopefully we progress some. What is the definition of a slaughter, by the way? I guess when someone takes a put you on a thing and they take the cuts of meat off I have no idea or they just cut your throat I don't know. From that point of world history the second is... Oh, oh, oh, we never do anything for the slaughter in Africa but that's okay. Listen, did you hear it? Very subtle.

2:15:10 He says we say it again. I missed it from from that point of our of world history He's equating it to the Holocaust. Oh, yeah Lieberman. He's like oh, it's a slaughter. We can't have it never again from from that point of our world history the second is every day that we do nothing. It's not just the Syrian people that suffer, it's Assad that wins and Iran wins. If we can help bring down Assad, it's a tremendous strategic victory for us.

2:15:46 against Iran. So that's like a two for one! Come on, this is getting better! You know, I want to come back... Oh yeah, here it comes. So he brings in the Iran, and then McCain jumps on him. Against Iran, but you know, I want to come back... Before you go on, could I just add one point to that? There would be no American boots on the ground, and this would be a multinational effort. There it is. No boots on the ground, a multinational effort. This would be a multinational effort. I.E. NATO. This guy is crazy, this McCain guy. Go ahead. All he wants is war, war, war. The guy's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. They're almost done.

2:16:27 he rather mccain wraps it up in an unbelievable way by the way you know ever go ahead i'm sorry i i didn't know it's okay i just want to focus on one thing in my opinion and this is exactly the answer we got from uh... the syrian national council the political leadership and the free syrian army leadership uh... they want weapons and they just want us to give them the opportunity to defend themselves and their families These are wonderful and brave and people who share our values. They share our values? What? They share our values.

2:17:08 It gets better. The rights and... The same human rights and everything. Yeah, they're just like us. Our rights and frankly, they do look to the United States of America. I'm glad they do. I just hope that we'll give them something that will authenticate their faith and belief in us. Yes. These guys are warmongers. Oh, it's unbelievable. So that's the setup. I mean, that is the that's why I'm surprised the New York Times isn't all over it. Well, I guess the Zimmerman thing just like blew it off the front page. Oh, yeah. The Zimmerman thing is where they're going. Yeah. But looking at this picture, and by the way, this picture comes from the Sham News Network. We talked about them before.

2:17:55 And actually the information about this is getting interesting. I'm doing some research on some of the people there. But anyway, the Sham News Network has this picture of Homs, the downtown area that looks like it probably was a shopping district. It looks like it's just, it's totally messed up. It's unbelievable. It looks like the worst picture you saw from Lebanon. It's like, you know, you guys did this to Lebanon. We're going to do it to you. Yeah. Anyway, so watch for it to happen. Turkey gets attacked. That's why Turkey is in the news. And there was something else I read that there was there was a really weird. Let me see if I can find this.

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

EU-Turkey Labor Agreement and Liberia Gay Rights

The European Commission is considering a proposal to grant Turkish citizens residency and labor rights within the EU. In Liberia, reports of a "Movement Against Gays" are surfacing. The hosts suggest the gay rights narrative in Liberia is being used as a pretext for Western intervention to counter a $2.6 billion Chinese mining deal.

turkey· liberia· gay rights· china· european commission

2:18:34 There was a an agreement what was it called? I've been looking at this material too, and it seems to me as though the turret is still boils down to nothing that these idiots said but it there is a huge You know another battle between the Shia and the Sunnis yeah, that's the whole point is to get that's what's going on here That's that's the whole point so the Brussels EU Commission Don't have the document yet, so I can't speak on complete authority they had a vote dated March 30th 2012 a proposal for decision to grant Turkish citizens the same residency and labor rights in Europe as all existing EU citizens But that was really interesting. Oh, well that one again, so the European Commission in Brussels they've released a document which I don't have a copy of yet and

2:19:34 March 30, 2012, a proposal for decision to grant all Turkish citizens the same residency and labor rights in Europe as existing EU citizens. You can cross borders and work in any country you want. Right, right. They need the Turk labor force. I mean, the Turk labor force is essentially the one that's been powering Germany. And this is a bunch of backlash against it and it's a lot of Turks in Germany and the document specifically adds quote a first package with similar proposals in respect to Algeria Morocco Tunisia Croatia and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia even Israel adopted by the council in October 2010 to bring it in line with the Turkish proposals and

2:20:21 Israel yeah, I know how did they get in the EU all of a sudden? She just put down you know The Congo why you're at why not Wow I'll tell you what's gonna happen something's up with with Liberia Have you noticed a lot of is anything in the Times about Liberia? Oh Well, not in the front page obviously since we went over that and I haven't seen anything. Let me go to the international section. I saw a big report on CNN about Liberia and then NPR does this and I think they're getting another setup. Now Liberia obviously has a huge mining... If you want to know what I see here about Liberia, there was something interesting in there. Hold on. Here we are.

2:21:09 China gets China assist Liberian state media. They're building a new broadcast forum China Union concession company has an agreement with the governor of Liberia to take over the facilities of the BMC 2.6 billion dollar deal this is all news from this week so Liberia. We've got the Chinas in there We got to kick him out. How do we start? Well al-qaeda we've done that well, let's pull out it you have a different script. Oh Hey, you got another script for Liberia? Yes, boss. Let's try this one.

2:21:57 A group calling itself the Movement Against Gays in Liberia or MOGAW has been distributing a hit list of people who support gay rights, stating that these people quote should not be given space to get a gulp of air. All right, they're killing gays down there. We got to move in some drones. Can't be because we can kill gays more efficiently. Can't be killing gays, man. Can't be killing gays. How do you connect this to China? I just read you the whole thing. The Chinese are buying a 2.6 billion dollar mining outfit. Yeah, I know that, but how are they going to connect gays to the Chinese to rouse the Chinese? It's the same thing as Uganda. Remember all the anti-gay things? So then we move in.

2:22:43 I see what you're saying. We got it whoever's in charge there. We kind of have to move in and then we just bumped to be It's like walking into a room and then you get do a hip check a Hip check exactly. That's a check out of the way out of the way out of the way Chiners Yeah, that's how I do it. Yeah, maybe Oh Liberia keep your eye on Liberia something going on All right, I only have one more thing, so why don't you wrap it up with whatever you've got there. The last couple of things, by the way, I'm looking at the New York Times website and they really don't have much going on. The Liberian thing is not being picked up by the New York Times, it seems. Okay, well, we'll stay tuned for it. Okay. So let's see, I got a couple of, there's a, but there's a tense, I think there's a,

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Guatemala Drug Legalization Proposal and Pat Buchanan

The President of Guatemala proposed legalizing drugs and seeking compensation from the U.S. for seized narcotics. On the McLaughlin Group, Pat Buchanan discussed the failure of the War on Drugs, contrasting Milton Friedman's legalization stance with Mao Zedong's execution policy. The hosts suggest a shift in conservative rhetoric regarding drug policy is underway.

guatemala· drug legalization· pat buchanan· milton friedman· war on drugs

2:23:32 I think that the Republicans are making a move toward bringing embarrassing Obama about his stance on legalizing drugs. And I noticed that on the, there's a couple things going on. One, it was on the McLaughlin report where McLaughlin reports on this actually in the Guatemala situation where they had a The guy, the president of Guatemala says that, you know, they should not only legalize drugs, but anytime that Americans confiscate any drugs that pass through Guatemala, the Guatemalans want compensation. It's a weird report, but play it. Issue three, the war on drugs. A shocker.

2:24:14 The president of Guatemala, a Central American country, has proposed an extremely controversial agenda item for the upcoming summit. Drug legalization. Drugs and drug violence are plaguing much of Central and South America. So, listen carefully. Whoa. The president of Guatemala has proposed a regional court to try drug traffickers and to decriminalize the transport and consumption of drugs and getting economic compensation from the United States for drugs seized in the US. On compensation he said quote, for every kilo of cocaine that is seized we want to be compensated 50% by the consumer countries.

2:25:05 Unquote. The US has a quote-unquote responsibility, he says, to reimburse drug producers because the US has one of the highest rates of drug use on the planet. Legalizing drug use is a thorny issue itself and some say outlandish for a US president running for re-election. So isn't that the wacky story of the day? That's great! Now, so they go, he continues on discussion asking Pat Buchanan of all people about legalizing drugs and Buchanan as a good operative actually, you know, without him just coming out and saying that it's probably the thing to do, he makes this commentary which I thought was quite interesting. The US war on drugs has been going on since 1971.

2:25:56 First declared by someone Patrick Buchanan worked for, President Richard M. Nixon, who resigned from office later. Though has the war on drugs been swept under the rug and is it a failure, Patrick? Yes. Look, what's happening in Mexico, Mexico is at war with these cartels. You've got Latin America. All of these areas, John, have really been huge amounts of criminality because of the demand in the United States for drugs. We've criminalized an awful lot of people in this country. But the problem is you've got horrendous alternatives. You legalize drugs and you let a significant part of your society, especially young people, be destroyed. You fight the war on it and you create all these criminals.

2:26:35 You got, as I wrote in my book, John, you got Milton's solution or Mao's solution. Milton Friedman says legalize them all and forget it. That solves it. Mao says we kill everybody, the drug dealers and the drug users. He solved it. But we're not going to do either one. I think we're going to limp along. But eventually, my guess is that people who say legalize are going to win. So there's a little mention of the works. That's a big deal. And he did mention, he threw the name, I name dropped. First, and he did it with a great way, I mean this is the propagandistic way to do it. First you mentioned that the great economist in so far as the Republicans and conservatives are concerned, Milton Friedman. So you mentioned him and he says just legalize it and let the chips fall where they may. And then to make it even more obvious what side you're on,

2:27:20 Then you quote Mao Zedong. Yeah, well, why not? Who says you kill everyone. So which side are you on? Is this the classic... Are you on the right side of history or on the wrong side of history? Are you on the Mao side? You want to kill everybody who uses drugs or you want to be like Milton Friedman? You want to be good or do you want to be like that? So the ball has begun, the ball has started rolling. And curiously, I think it began with Pat Robertson. I think he's the one who sent the first message out, like, okay boys, let's go this way. Let's roll it, yeah. Meanwhile, of course, in California, they're cracking down on the drug operations that are illegal. Yeah, Oakster Dam. Oakster Dam, for one. And it's all Obama doing it, who promised he'd never do this, and he's doing it. I think it's becoming very embarrassing. He's going to have to put a stop to it, although I don't know what, you know, apparently the law enforcement community is out of control.

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

UC Davis Pepper Spray Report and USGS Earthquake Warnings

A task force report slammed the UC Davis Police Department for the "disproportionate" pepper-spraying of students. Separately, the USGS issued a warning of an 84% chance of a major earthquake in Seattle within 50 years. The hosts speculate that these geological warnings are being used to influence future building codes and "sustainable" development agendas.

uc davis· pepper spray· usgs· seattle· earthquake

2:28:11 talking about out-of-control law enforcement, they had the report came down just the other day on the Davis police that the two jerk-offs that sprayed everybody that pepper spray and they and they cracked down on him and there's a little punchline at the end of this report that I think everyone should pay attention to it's getting on my nerves. This force report on last winter's pepper spraying of students peacefully protesting at UC Davis slams the campus police for using excessive force. It also blames administrators for creating the environment that allowed it to happen. The report says pepper spraying the students was a disproportionate response. The task force is recommending a top-to-bottom review now of what it calls the dysfunctional UC Davis Police Department. The way that the police force went about handling things that day is not the same that a veteran of the police department in LA would do. It's not the same a veteran... Actually, it's just not what a well-trained police officer is supposed to do.

2:29:09 UC Davis says it is preparing a response. The two campus cops who sprayed the protesters in this video and its police chief are on paid administrative leave. That's vacation. Yeah I'd love that give me a paid administrative leave paid paid administrative leave is forced vacay You're gonna you don't have to work anymore. We just pay you there's a huge scandal in New York about all the cops that are Essentially paid it don't work leave. Yeah, they're just on permanent paid administrative leave awesome, so There's a couple of little items that it might be interesting

2:29:46 Apparently the, in fact JC dug these up. Looks like the USGS came out with a report this month which is, we'll send it, put a link to the show notes concluding fracking causes earthquakes. Oh yeah. I mean we knew this, right? For years. I mean it was just because it's obviously start fracking in an area and then you have all these little earthquakes and they get bigger or smaller and it's actually been tested in the I mean the state of California some years back did some crazy lubricate the fault line test I think was in the USGS, United States Geological Survey, is that what they're called? Yeah. They were up in Seattle

2:30:34 And the report was they're predicting the big one. The big one's coming. And I think they're just shields for agenda 21, just to bring it all full circle. Listen to it. Seattle was advised today it needs to do more to prepare itself for a major earthquake. Coma Force Tricia Manning Smith reports on a new research that was presented to the city council today and introduces us to some West Seattle residents who are waiting for history to repeat itself. That's very likely in the next 50 years. Today scientists... 50 years by the way. Hey, it's the year. That's in my red 500 years. Yeah, well, it's in my red book But listen to what they're also recommending with the US Geological Survey warned. There's an 84% chance that 84% chance John not 83

2:31:18 Not 85, 84% in the next 50 years. Another 6.5 magnitude deep quake will happen in 50 years. And by the way, the first 6.5 was when they were still using the Richter scale. 6.5 these days is like just it's a... You don't know what it means. It's a bone rattler, it's nothing. Also today, geologists revealed possible new changes to the area's hazard maps, which planners use for emergencies and which may impact future building codes. Ah, really? Future building codes, sustainable materials. I'm feeling it. The USGS is being used as a pawn. Yeah, I'd say. Well, at least in that regard. I like the USGS. They have a little earthquake site and when you have a little shaker you can go to the site and tell them what you felt and they can adjust the number.

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

National Cell Phone Database and User Managed Access

The government and major carriers are creating a national database of cell phones, ostensibly to track stolen devices. The hosts argue this is actually a setup for "User Managed Access" (UMA), a protocol allowing carriers to act as middlemen for personal data. They warn that this system will allow phone companies to further monetize and control user information.

cell phone database· uma· user managed access· kantara initiative· carriers

2:32:15 You won't wind up with a little tech thing that I think I figured out. Okay. A little techno expert thing. So this was a... I got this report from the Wall Street Journal site. They have video on the Wall Street Journal where they get like a bunch of douche knuckles sitting down there and talking out of their butthole, literally. This is about the plan to create a central database of cell phones. Have you followed this story at all? No. Well, this seems to be a good first step. They're starting a national database to keep track of all phones that are reported as stolen and the carriers have agreed to turn off or disable the phones from being able to use voice or data and it will be a way to... Now you can hear the way the guy is stuttering that he doesn't really believe his own story.

2:33:29 So the story here, and this goes on forever, you can listen to the whole clip. The story is the government and the carriers are creating a database, they say of stolen cell phones, but that's bullcrap. Every single cell phone in the United States will be in this registry. And what they're saying, the reason is, is if it gets stolen, particularly if you have a Verizon or what is the other one that has CDMA that doesn't use a SIM card? As far as I know, only Verizon uses CDMA. That's another one. But this isn't based on that, it's based on the serial numbers that are built in all the phones. No, I know, but the story goes on, it's like, well, you can just remove your SIM card, no, it's actually going to... No, no, that's not true. No, I understand. But the whole, the lie here is that they're building this registry in order to block these phones. If they're stolen, therefore make them, you know, less desirable to crooks.

2:34:30 Yeah, I believe there's something else going on here. You don't think it's just to sell more phones Well, no it is for it is for profit it is and it isn't a lot of people are saying oh You know the government man that wants you you're gonna be tracking you and all this now Are you familiar with the UMA also known as Yuma? What about it? This is an a protocol which is just maturing now and UMA stands for user managed access. You'll like looking into this. This sits on top of OpenID as well as OAuth 2.0 and you thought that Facebook and Twitter and all those guys that they were going to be tracking you and selling your data. Uh-uh. Here's what's happening. The phone carriers are now jumping on board with this UMA.

2:35:22 UMA means user managed access. So when you're in this database and that's what it's all about this centralized database, that's why they want to have it. You will be making deals with your cell phone company as to what piece of data about you you're going to give up. That's what the user managed part is about. The cell phone companies have finally figured out that they are the ones who can make just hundreds of billions of dollars on selling your information and this is the first setup to it and of course the government will get their piece of it as well, so you'll say hey, you know you want a $200 Groupon certificate well just allow us to sell the information about your age or about your billing address which of course the the carriers have so keep your eye on this UMA thing and

2:36:12 I like this. I could crank out a quick column with that idea. I think you can do three columns on this. I don't know about that. I could over time. But it goes all the way to, do you agree to these non-disclosure terms? Can you confirm that you're private? Yeah, people will sign off on anything. I mean, we know that from the Facebook experience. But Facebook is, they're going to be shutting Facebook out. Facebook will have to come to them. So the carriers have done the deal with the government to have all they will be the the middleman between your information and everybody else including the government so you're actually going to wind up giving out all this great data a lot of it's confirmed because the carriers know where they're sending your bill they know your credit card number they know where you are

2:36:57 Which you can also say, oh yeah, go ahead, tell everyone where I am and give me some benefits for that. This is going to be huge. Here's what I may explain on one of the websites. For example, a web user authorizing a user can authorize a web app. requester to gain one-time or ongoing access to a resource containing his home address stored at a personal data store service host by telling the host to act on access decisions made by his authorization decision-making service authorization manager. The requesting party might be an e-commerce company whose site is acting on behalf of the user himself to assist him in arranging for shipping

2:37:35 or a purchased item, or it might be his friend who is using an online address book service to collect addresses, or it might be a survey company that uses an online service to compile population demographics. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna throw out all my cell phones. I'm done with it. Who needs it? You're ridiculing me for having a landline. No, in fact I want a John C. Duvour-like landline with a really long extension cord. I can drive all over Austin and still be connected. And that's it. I mean, we have to get your get your ham license and just stay on the on the VHF all over. You can get hams around. Can you create a data link, a full time data link? No, that way. No, no.

2:38:23 So I could but they won't let you so really we need to go back to the idea of everyone using each other's Wi-Fi right but that's kind of dead that's just that idea is kind of gone I guess this is a pretty good thinking this who's ever behind this has got their they definitely you want to see who's behind it AT&T Verizon Oracle oh yeah Yeah, it's huge. I would say it was all the carriers. It would be Cisco It'd be probably Intel and you know everybody that's you know just out to make as much money as they can You can take a look at it in the show notes three nine or nine or dot na show notes calm And that will give you all the links this UMA thing this is a big deal and no one's talking about this and it's going to completely usurp

2:39:11 Facebook and Twitter and all these guys who think they got in Google by the way, this is the big fight But this the carriers man, they've got it and these guys, you know, they'll sell you down the road. They don't give a crap down the river We don't have that much water left in Austin. So we just we've changed the expression to sell you down the road We're dry here participant roster. Here we go. Let's see who's in it. I Oracle Fraunhofer, AOL. Oh yeah. Newcastle University PayPal. Oh yeah. More Oracle Orange. Bechtel. This is all part of the, I mean this combined with near field communication in the cell phone. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Is it good? Is it done deal for just the, these companies essentially taking over your financial life and since everyone's addicted to cell phones and I've been predicting this for 25 years,

2:40:09 If you have let the phone companies have anything to do with financing anything you do, they will use their power as a phone company to extort you to make sure you pay. This was tested, and I've said this before, this was tested back in the modem days in the late 80s or so, or the mid 80s, when if you remember these guys would be on their modem and they'd click on something on a a BBS and it would go and it would run some code that would turn the modem speaker off, redial Romania. And yes, it was some connection that cost $100 a minute. And you'd be on there, this is like they did this with phone sex too. And you'd be on there for a few minutes and you'd get a bill for $5,000 from the phone company because of your modem doing this thing. You'd call fraud and the phone company says, no, we have treaties, there's nothing we can do about it. We have to collect the money or you lose your phone. And people ponied up. Once in a while they agreed to pay less, but it was just a test

2:41:13 To see exactly how much you could put the screws to the public because you own their communications methodology shutting it off I don't need it Robert Cope is on board here from Homeland Security consultants. We have Ingo Frieza from Deutsche Telekom. Oh, man, this is Oh Mark Hadley from Sun Microsystems Michael Hanson from Mozilla. All right, get in there boys Jeff Hodges PayPal into it Cigna haha eBay Kellogg's Associates, oh this is a great list. This is a great list. BT, British Telecom, oh yeah. NTT, haha, this is going to be great. So we need to get on board with it. How can we turn this to our advantage? What can we do? I don't know, we'll have to think about it. I'm going to have to read over this. There's a couple of white papers on the web. Yeah, you want to go to the

2:42:11 Contara initiative website. I got the Contara white paper up right now. Yeah, that's the one you want to go to yeah, Contara K-a-n-t-a-r-a I think so a human resources I think there's an opportunity here for the curry Devorah consulting group we can certainly make some dough out of this and please also remember to check kids activity dot curry comm tell me what's going on with that PDF file Open up that sucker up see what's happening A reminder, Tax Day in the United States of Gitmo Nation is this coming Sunday. There's also the celebratory episode of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe. Episode number 400. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Find out how you contribute. As long as we're still allowed to do amounts of that order. Legally. Yeah, well that'll end. Yeah. Oh yeah, oh, this—it will all end for sure. Or we'll die happy men, John.

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