Episode 375 · Thursday, 19 January 2012

Problematic Woman

A leaked opposition dossier shakes the GOP primary while European leaders push for a cashless society and the NYPD tests controversial terahertz imaging technology.

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About this episode

Rick Perry officially exits the 2012 presidential race to endorse Newt Gingrich, leaving Mitt Romney to face intensifying scrutiny over his unreleased tax returns. The political landscape shifts as a leaked 200-page opposition research dossier from the 2008 McCain campaign surfaces, detailing Romney’s business records and his Mormon mission in France. Meanwhile, the White House faces security questions after a smoke bomb incident triggered a brief lockdown, while Chief Technology Officer Anish Chopra avoids committing to a veto of the controversial SOPA and PIPA legislation.

European stability wavers as Standard & Poor's downgrades the European Financial Stability Facility despite assurances from EU President Herman Van Rompuy. In The Hague, Dutch Finance Minister Jan Kees de Jager opens an International Financial Tribunal to mediate complex derivative disputes, while Romania faces massive anti-corruption protests and Croatia prepares for an EU membership referendum. Reports indicate a push for a 400-euro cash transaction limit across the continent, signaling a move toward total financial surveillance. In the United States, the NYPD is testing terahertz imaging technology to detect concealed weapons, raising significant Fourth Amendment concerns and potential DNA damage risks.

Bed Bath & Beyond issues a recall for radioactive metal tissue box holders sourced from China, prompting a search for Geiger counters. CNN’s Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper frame a cluster of Tourette-like tics among girls in LeRoy, New York, as mass hysteria, a move critics suggest protects Gardasil vaccine manufacturers. The show also honors Frank Rowe, known as Gitmo Slave, with a formal knighthood for his infrastructure contributions.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

PayPal Data Access Issues, Call Center Frustrations

The hosts describe technical difficulties obtaining financial data from PayPal for their production accounts. One host details a frustrating interaction with a customer service representative, purportedly located in a Filipino call center, which ended in a disconnected call. The discussion highlights the inefficiency of manual data retrieval in the era of cloud computing.

paypal· cloud computing· customer service· philippines· data downloads· call centers

00:00 the whole thing is that they were on the ground, boots on the ground! Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Thursday January 19th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 375 This is no agenda Clearly suffering from mass hysteria at Camp MoFo here in Austin Texas and the capital of The Drone Star State In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where We haven't got a spreadsheet, no thanks. I don't know what's going on with PayPal. I'm John C. DeBorah. It's Blackboard and Buzzkill! In the morning... Okay vent your frustrations in the opening That's right And don't do that because you know people are like oh they don't have a spreadsheet well i'm not listening then What's the spreadsheet? Because yeah you're not gonna mention my name Yeah well here's why they want to listen because I've got some complaining to do Uh-oh Coming later

00:54 Okay, well first of all in the morning to you there Johnny boy You into morning at all ships and sea in the morning at all boots on the ground and in the morning to all feet In the air a citizen and of course in the morning to all of our human resources are citizens. Hey citizen All charged up ready to go in the chat room no agenda stream calm No agenda chat dotnet that hey citizen thing is really catching on I'm getting emails all day long It's like it's rivaling in the morning I think. It's getting very close. Hey citizen! Hey citizen! It's so friendly yet, so shut up slavy you know what i mean? Oh yeah that's a great little ditty. It's really...I like it. I like it alot. Alright so we uh.. What is wrong with PayPal? We've had nothing but problems with Paypal No we haven't had nothing but problems. We have problem-we've had problems over the last week

01:46 We've got two accounts, there's an older account which still gets subscription income and it is still a reasonable size. Then we have the new account which is the No Agenda Show account specifically and so I requested downloads of the data for since the last show, so we can discuss the producers and all the rest of it. Now I went through by the way they do have executive producers for this show but i had to go through page-by-page and pull them out my hand. Ooh! Manual labor. This is the cloud you know? You click and wait... It's the cloud there we go. The Cloud

02:27 You click to go to the next page, because they only put 20 entries. Go to the next page and I determine it's between 7 and 15 second wait. Are you sure this isn't SOPA somehow getting back at us for not going black? Anon is messing with us! So anyway... so I call up for the NOA... or I request a NOAgenda spreadsheet and then I request the older spreadsheet from the other account, and uh... the other account shows up in five minutes.

03:02 Five hours later than the no agenda account has not shown any sign. I've just happened last week and I called customer service And they say actually now does it sound like they're in jail? Does it sound like there are people who are working in jail, but you know No, and it doesn't sound like a boiler room because you know There's this report out about different jail even though that the biggest call centers now are staffed by prisoners Oh, they're always women so they'd have to be a woman's prison. Well the picture... Ayo! The picture that I'm seeing here shows a lot of guys Well, there was I bought last time. I call it was a woman and she said all she'll send email me the download Which you didn't do but the download showed up immediately after she hung up after examining the file So I didn't care this time. I call it was a little Filipino girl hmm and How did he know? She was did she say hello mr.. The war I come from Philippines I'm great. I know a lot of Filipino

04:02 Women since I was in school. We had a lot of them in the bearing and they have an accent that's very distinctive Oh, did so do you say? Hey, uh when you when I was not chatting her up a little being in the Philippines Which is one of the largest call center places But were you chatting or up a little bit like while she's doing what she's helping I always try to chat him Up, you know like be friendly we're doing stuff Like saying like kind of baffled by the whole problem We say my wasn't hey, I went to school with a lot of your country people Your Filipinos she was a Filipino so whatever the case she I'm talking and she's trying to figure out what I'm talking about and she's And then she didn't then. I'm disconnected of course Okay So that's that so I'm still waiting

04:56 So she did so this hang up was this morning? Yeah. That's lame didn't you call back immediately and like get into it? I didn't just get into a queue, it was very different experience this time from the last which I think they may have changed stuff Well yeah because they went from the Philippines from the jail system you got patched through to the Philippines I have no idea They probably have customer service people all over the place This is why we have no chance man It's true. We're all doomed! We have no chance whatsoever Actually, I have a jingle for these things now Hold on Yeah Regarding our PayPal spreadsheet Technical malfunction What was that? Could you not hear it? I could hear it but couldn't understand it Oh Well maybe thats the Skype connection You can here quite well Technical malfunction Oh technical malfunction

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, No Agenda Episode 375

The show acknowledges high-tier donors for episode 375, including Michael Miller, Peter Gill, and Norman McDonough. A special mention is made for Gitmo Slave, who manages the show's streaming infrastructure and is seeking a knighthood. The hosts also discuss a user interface grievance regarding PayPal's account navigation during the donor verification process.

gitmo slave· knighthood· brisbane· woodstock ontario· calgary· executive producers

05:53 I have that one handy now. Thank you. It's a little grandiose, yeah thank you Marcus uh it's good it's good but we while we're here we might as well mention I do to have the executive producers you want to thank them right off the top here yes absolutely and uh... we have two executive producers and surprisingly 1 2 3 4 associate executives and I don't have all their notes but you have some of them. See that really blows are we gonna do you think will get the notes for the show because it's important people to note... No, they have the notes there there was no real in there with these guys none of them had a real long notes I mean is a couple and notes but it wasn't like along noted that they're going to be upset about as long as we can do a couple things. First of all Michael Miller and Tiburon

06:38 He's on behalf of Sir Gitmo Slave. Oh yeah, this was a big... Everyone was pitching in to get Gitmo Slave a knighthood. Gitmo Slave of course really runs the infrastructure of the streaming server and all that he coordinates a lot of stuff. Right, and he apparently wants a 12-12-12 knighthood Oh wait a minute now he's demanding stuff? No I just claims he's got the numbers for it And we'll take his word for it. Yeah, yes the man and he wants you to get a haircut cut your hair bitch So we got him so this will be $500 also He'll be an executive producer nice, and then we have from Peter Gill from Brisbane curiously have two of our producers from Brisbane Australia

07:29 And he wants karma for his apparently a son Charlie whose birthday it is. We have to put Charlie Gill on today's birthday list if you can do that? Yeah, yeah I can do anything you need so uh hold on second... Birthday and and Charlie has apparently had some medical issues recently that require karma He needs a Karma call out You've got Karma Then we have Norman McDonough in Woodstock, Ontario. 200 bucks. So here's my second PayPal anecdote here so I just asked this is to coders out there to tell me i'm wrong on this

08:08 So I go, I page down wait 15 seconds. Page down wait 10 seconds. Page down wait 10 seconds and then I come up with Norman McDonough who's in Woodstock Ontario $200 associate executive producer but i need to find out that he is in Woodstock it just says his name right so I click on the details boom it takes me to another page and it says there he is Norman Mcdonough is a woodstock ontario and then it says at the bottom return to my account Now, do you think the code should return me to where I came from or reset the whole thing and take me right back to the first page? I think it should log you out. Did it? That's the way I'd code it! Boom So he went back to basically like the top page

08:57 So I had to scroll back down page after page. So, of course, I corrected this error on my part by making assumptions that they would do it right and so I had to open a new window for each guy. But that just seems to me... Am I right or wrong? Also, Brian, he doesn't want his last name used, $210.12 which is a... Which I guess 210-12 which I didn't mention in the email is another palindrome which I forgot. Oh right, we sent out an email to everybody

09:33 Yeah, for the palindromes coming up we got 2-1-12 but I don't think I had to 210 12 which is a blunder. But anyway Brian came up with it but he says he came up with it by paying $2 for every episode he's listened to which is reasonable and just to pat myself on the back because I brought in the big dough two dollars and twelve cents for The Clip Show Good job. Thank you good job well that's good so we eat once again is that the basic message? The 12 cents worth, we got two more Austin Voss $200 from Calgary Alberta and he wants a karma combined with the huntsman Oh okay let's see if I can do this i'm sure I can

10:18 Yeah, it works. It's kind of nice where he says ching-ching and we get the bell yeah that's good that's good all right and then finally also in Brisbane and he did have a little note but it was just accolades saying he loves the show $200 and those are executive producers and associate executive producers for show whatever number it is 375 John we have shown three hundred seventy five three hundred and seventy-five episodes of the no agenda show as some say the best podcast in the universe that is I thought that was a fact yeah it's not something to say I tried to look it up yesterday but Wikipedia was dark so I couldn't check couldn't verify if we like the word or he is not dark today because we probably need it

11:07 I want to thank all those producers and executive producers for show 375 Dvorak org slash na to help us out continue to help us out also channel of org comm slash na if you can't get to that other side dvorak. I'm sorry and also no agenda nation calm which is also a store and And no agenda show that camera there's a donation button you can just click on and it'll take you to one of the donation Pages right the page that we keep there. Yeah, turn it up for the kids right now real loud Dvorak org slash is loving so give your love giving loving

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda PR Associates, Domain Name Forwarding

The hosts highlight several new domain names purchased by listeners that forward to the main show website. These include unelectable.net and various iterations of giving and loving. They credit the creativity of the producers for expanding the show's digital footprint through these redirects.

unelectable.net· givingloving.com· domain names· marketing· branding

11:52 I was going to talk about our PR associates today. We have a number of amazing domain names that once again are forwarding to noagendashow.com The first one which is nice that it was available unelectable.net Very nice, that's forwarding to the nojentoshow.com website Thank you very much Sam good job on that one and then we have a plethora We have givingloving.com Givingisloving.com basically if you Combine the words giving and loving You're gonna wind up at our show site There's a short version of it too hold on let me see I want to play this one

12:43 is loving givingloving.com It works for me I like, i want to go... I like the voice who's that? I don't..I forget one of our producers man Our producers are awesome they just make this stuff up and send it in They make it up as it goes along Indeed Good work Okay now of course there is something everyone else out there can do you can always continue to propagate our formula which is as follows Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Say it loud and proud with me everybody, Hey Citizen Shut up, snake. Yeah you're gonna be hearing the hey citizen for a while I think You should somehow combine hey citizen and squirrel Uh well i don't know how but... Hey Citizen! Squirrel! Nevermind. How does that work? Don't take my advice on these things you'll just make nothing but noise all the whole show yeah like we used to do in the good old days

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Greece Debt Crisis, International Financial Tribunal

The discussion shifts to the European economic crisis, specifically the opening of a new International Financial Tribunal in The Hague by Dutch Finance Minister Jan Kees de Jager. This court is intended to mediate disputes regarding complex financial products and derivatives. Meanwhile, in Athens, general strikes and protests continue as the Greek government considers further austerity measures to secure a 130 billion euro rescue package.

greece· athens· international financial tribunal· the hague· austerity· derivatives

13:50 Yeah, very good. Very good. I'd like to start off today... There's so much obvious crap going on here in the United States of Gitmo Nation but I think what is happening in Europe is much more interesting and Haiku Herman He's off the rails, man. He is completely off the rails. These guys are freaked out! Before you go into that I just want to add a little piece of spice to what we're going to discuss with todays New York Times front page of the business section

14:29 No, no. Syria we're going to talk about afterwards but this one when I read this and said oh this should be interesting...I'll just read the headline it was just didn't I'm sure its part of what you're gonna say hedge funds may sue Greece if it tries to force a loss! I know isn't great? Can you imagine that kind of mess that this could this is.. I mean this is a nightmare Well what's interesting is that on Monday The Dutch in Gitmo Nation lowlands is where they have the International Criminal Court in The Hague. You know, it's kind of like this Switzerland and else have miniature land in the Hague, Maduro Dam. Yeah exactly

15:11 He is opening up on Monday the Minister of Finance, Junkes de Jaeger who was an ICT guy. It's like a Microsoft integrations guy. I know him he's now the Minister of Finance Do you think these guys that have these meetings in The Hague go over to miniature land and walk around thinking that they all you know? Ha ha This is a giant. I'm crushing on you little peanuts, you little slaves. Hey citizen! I'm stepping on you. Yeah, I think they do that. That's why it's built. They said we need to place the practice in Majuro Dam. Look that up in the book of knowledge. So Young K is the yager who was like...I think his expertise was SharePoint

15:55 Is now the Minister of Finance. He will be opening up the new International Financial Tribunal in The Hague which will mediate in disputes about complicated financial products, now this is very key because that means it's coming so they know that they're gonna have all these disputes particularly about Derivatives and the derivatives of course flows right into the insurance that people take out on which hedge fund guys do on defaults of loans. So they're setting up a court, which I'm sure will be really fair. Just like the International Criminal Court there's setting up and they're ready because they know it's coming and then they've known it for awhile until he's actually going to cut the ribbon there and open it all up

16:47 So let's listen to Euronews for a second who report about the Greeks on the streets once again. As the clock ticks on efforts to save Greece from bankruptcy, people in Athens have taken to the streets to protest against possible new austerity measures The general strike coincided with the return of EU and IMF officials to the city. Without their approval, Greece will not get another bailout but Greek workers have seen their income slashed in five years of cutbacks and they're not in a welcoming mood They are going to impose even more harsh measures, this man says. More sacrifices will not save us from bankruptcy, this Communist Party leader says. The system must be overthrown."

17:39 In one isolated incident, some turned their anger on a plain-clothes policeman. But the protest was otherwise peaceful. Greece needs a 130 billion euro rescue package but its leaders are also trying to agree a deal with banks on slashing 100 billion euros off of 350 billion euro debt However, negotiations hit the rocks on Friday and were not due to restart until Wednesday. I love the hit-the-rocks thing little reference there to the cruise ship kind of cool The industrial action brought Athens to a standstill but it was unlikely to have the desired effect Similar protests last year did not deflect the previous government from its path of austerity and the current administration of technocrats is even more determined to push through the reforms that country's creditors are insisting on Right

18:26 So, shut up slave essentially. More austerity I mean how much more could you have? It's like you can only poop every other day or something How much more problem can you give these poor people in Greece No pooping! Now check this out it has gotten so bad in Greece Remember when we were talking about them selling off all their assets basically and just doing anything You can now rent the Acropolis for $2000 a day You could actually rent it out For like a party. That's a good deal! It's great deal, are you kidding me? $2,000 a day that's nothing Yeah Can you imagine you'll hang up some mirror balls and get a DJ in there and some glow sticks what a rave man Be dropping some E be awesome

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

European Financial Stability Facility, Standard & Poor's Downgrade

Herman Van Rompuy, referred to as Haiku Herman, addresses the credit rating downgrade of the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) by Standard & Poor's. Despite the downgrade, Van Rompuy insists the fund remains solid and backed by irrevocable guarantees from member states. The hosts argue that this effectively forces taxpayers in stable countries like Germany and the Netherlands to bail out failing southern European banks.

herman van rompuy· standard & poor's· efsf· sovereign debt· germany· bailout

19:12 We'll call it a Kropolis as well Right the white party the white party at a Kropolis. Don't miss it alright, so haiku Hermann's of course Europe gets downgraded we talked about this on Sunday just about every single country except for the ones who think they're all safe like get my nation lowlands And so good old Haiku Herman, the president of the United States of Europe has to come out and say something. I take note and will of course examine the consequences of decision announced by Standard & Poor's... I love this! I take note? It is like noted isn't that one our favorite sayings like yeah i've noted that. To downgrade credit rating of European financial stability facility. Now see I didn't know this

19:58 So they actually downgraded the rating of their whole bailout fund. Did you realize that? It wasn't just the sovereign debt, but it was the ESFS itself that they downgraded. No! Let's not forget that the EFSF continues to be assigned the best possible credit rating by Moody's and by Fritch. Listen dude no one cares about Fritch And Moody's. What are you trying to say? Two out of three ain't bad, what is that? Underlining its solidity Solidity

20:37 Neither neither rating agency has indicated any rating action for the EFSF in the immediate future Yeah, it means they got a deal with those guys standard and poor's decision so-called decision So-called decision I love it. What is that all decision another one? You know these I just did from a technical standpoint I can't imagine, I mean these guys have got between a rock and hard place after this mess that they've left everything in during the housing crisis. These ratings agencies and they would love to really do it right and downgrade the crap out of this stuff but there's so much pressure on them from every which way but these are conservative downgrades. But this is such a big message for him to say so-called

21:28 so-called decision. Of course it wasn't their decision, it was probably little Timmy Geithner who said, hey downgrade the fuckers! Downgrade them! Let's do it now! We will not reduce EFSFs lending capacity of 440 billion. EFSFS has sufficient means to fulfill its commitments under the current and potential future adjustment programs and will continue to be backed by unconditional and irrevocable guarantees by Euro area member states. That is unbelievable! I don't know if anyone realizes what he's saying, but he's saying that the fund remains to be backed by unconditional and irrevocable guarantees from the European member states? That means more austerity for more member states?!

22:20 That's what it sounds like. Everyone is committed, it's irrevocable you can't go back so where's that gonna come from? It's gonna come from Germany and the Netherlands and all the countries who weren't downgraded congratulations! Hats of state or government... There are the hats of state again. He's back with a hats of states. ...decided on 9th December to advance the introduction of the permanent mechanism. Now this is the one that I told you about, I think almost two months ago The European Stability Mechanism This is the thing that everyone has agreed to it's been ratified they ratified in July 2011 all the finance ministers including Microsoft SharePoint guy from Gitmo Lowlands

23:04 They said, yeah we're good for it. We guarantee that's the irrevocable money that is going to come from the taxpayers in all these member states. Yes, right to July 2012 The ESM will have its own capital, its own capital base and thus be less affected by ratings of Euro area member states. And then I will repeat what I said in my introduction the adequacy of the overall lending ceiling of EFSF, ESM or 500 billion will be reassessed by March

23:42 22 in a couple of weeks right so I don't understand why there's not universal outrage. I think people just don't understand it or their local media is not reporting on it But it's not being reported on to any extent for sure. No, because people would be outraged if they knew that every other country is basically... everyone's bailing out Greece and it's not... It's bailing out banks! Well bailing out banks and its right the banks that are in debt to Greece Spain Portugal Italy the whole group of these this whole group of Southern Europe countries or southern European countries

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Herman Van Rompuy, Ask Herman YouTube Segment

The hosts critique a YouTube series titled "Ask Herman" where the EU President answers selected public questions. Van Rompuy defends the replacement of elected leaders in Italy and Greece with technocrats, claiming they resigned voluntarily. He also dismisses the idea that the Euro is dead and attempts to explain the difference between the United States of America and the European Union.

herman van rompuy· youtube· democracy· italy· greece· european union

24:18 It's just ridiculous at this point. I mean, this is gonna... This is well you know see what happens now. Now Haiku Herman here's the off-the-rails part so I'm digging around on the EU site he has an Ask Herman segment actually called ask Herman! I'm so excited So he takes questions and they're YouTube videos, and he answers the questions. And these... I'm going to play three questions with his answers These are questions that I would want-I would ask! He's such a bonehead that is actually answering them First question of course, uh, just listen how he says it It's unbelievable that they're doing this. I love it by the way Thank you Haiku Kate Adams is asking me on Twitter

25:08 Please explain why and on what basis the European Union has forced democratically elected leaders in Italy and Greece out of office. That's a great question! It is like, that is exactly what happened you force out Papandreou, you kicked him out, put in a technocrat, a banker Goldman Sachs guy. You forced out, well of course we knew what was going to happen in Italy but you put a central banker Schill in another technocrat so what authority do you have to do that? Well dear Keith the European Union is not forcing anyone out of office Oh okay all right we didn't... What happened then ? The leaders

25:52 of the two countries you mentioned stepped down either because they lost the support of their parliament or they resigned. They just resigned, no phone call, no threatening letters, no email... I think today is a good day to resign The current leaders in Italy and Greece Mr Monty and Papademos They both govern with the support of a parliamentary majority. In Greece, elections will be organized next year and people will have their say. Italy? Elections are foreseen at the normal date in 2013 Great! Okay... Well then let's talk about that Euro thing shall we? Quite a few questions comments arrived to me via the platform Debating Europe and here is one

26:40 when you are going to stop kidding yourself and accept the fact that the euro is dead? That's a great question. When are you gonna stop kidding yourself and accept the fact that the euro is dead? Well, this is a good question for Heiko Hermann. Well I'm convinced that the Euro will continue to exist We would all have too much to lose, both economically and politically. Wow! He's just saying it right there, politically... I want to stay president. I got a good gig here. If the euro ceased to exist So this situation is inconceivable Impossible Some say politics is the art of the possible Well for me politics is the art of making possible

27:27 what is necessary. In other words, Heil Hermann! It's the art of making possible what is necessary it is necessary it is very good for you slaves now the final one I saved the best for last I have a question from Leonardo van de Wiele of Antwerp very short one The United States of Europe What do you think about that? How would you address this question John as a professor in political science? I would run from it, but I think he's probably gonna He's going to sidestep the question as best. He can because that has to be the way way This is headed. I mean we're looking at a diffractal of course is United States of America where you had the Civil War over do how much power the federal government's gonna have and

28:21 and resulting in this unified country. And I think that's what they don't want to face the reality of, that is what is going to happen here in Europe." Well this why you are not president of Europe John because you have no idea how to answer these questions. Well Leonardo, this refers to the American model by the way it is a very old expression The French novelist Victor Hugo invented it half-way into the 19th century. Les Etats Unis d'Europe Too bad! You can no longer ask him Because he's dead. You can't ask him. That said, America and the European Union are two different completely different political systems. Okay we go once again to our Political Science Professor John C. Dvorak How are the United States of Europe and the United States of America completely two different political systems John? Well one's a classic United States of America classic federal system where you have the individual states having sovereignty over the federal government

29:22 although they keep trying to reverse that. The European system is a cooperative system with a bunch of unelected officials running it in some way that's totally alien, we know in the universe this is a completely oddball experiment going on in Europe that makes no sense to any objective observer. They are one state and we are 27 so we're only one state John No, no he just said it wrong. He's crazy! Did I not predict that? We are one state let's just listen to that again. We are 27 they are... Hold on lemme move that back a bit America and the European Union are two different completely different political systems They're all one states and we are twenty seven What the hell are you talking about Haiku Herman?! We're 50 states! We're not ONE state

30:17 They are united, we are a union. Oh that's the difference! We're united and they're a union... What the hell is the difference between that? Well For one thing, you'd have a bunch of unelected people running it. Running the union... even the regular Union by the way is elected! It's not even like a union-union No it's not even like a union-union, its just a bunch of corrupt officials that somehow ganged up on the public and was forced down to publics throat You gonna vote against it? Vote again! Oh my goodness

30:57 Well, I okay so one of the sites that you should probably have linked on the show notes is debating Europe dot EU. Yes oh no i have it in the show and of course they do! Of course she has in there and people should go check this out because its got... It's essentially discuss your idea this is like something Obama would do I think this is your idea. Where's the marijuana legalization thing in here? We, the people! Discuss your ideas with Europe's leaders and it's just a bunch of bullcrap. Would financial transactions tax hurt Europe's economy? And then Sarkozy answers

31:37 Of course. And now there's a little phrase I never heard, Mercozy? I think that's kind of cute. Yeah that's the... You haven't heard Mercozy? No, I don't think so Oh no that's uh that's kinda the universe everyone is saying it in now All the kids are talking about it I hear teenagers on skateboards Hey man! Those Mercozy guys they're effed up man Like anyone cares From time to time I'll scan like the biggest newspaper and get my Lowlands The one everybody reads And it's like, soccer soccer show business distraction house fire. That's the front page and of course I can read and parse that so i can only imagine what most of the newspapers are doing people you think it's bad here in the United States? Huh huh

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Romania Protests, Croatia EU Referendum

Civil unrest in Romania is discussed, with the hosts noting a lack of mainstream media coverage regarding the protests against government corruption. The conversation moves to Croatia's upcoming referendum on joining the European Union. One host shares a personal anecdote about traveling by train through Slovenia and Croatia, illustrating the differing bureaucratic attitudes in the former Yugoslavian territories.

romania· croatia· slovenia· yugoslavia· european union· protests

32:25 No, it's really bad over in Euro land. And just to finish up my little rant here... So there is rioting in Romania by the way and we hear nothing about that? We don't hear anything about anything like that! We hear about the rioting they want us to hear because of the suitcase and the internet. Or the internet or the suitcase whichever you prefer and they, you know we should know about this writing but not that writing. I mean Bahrain is still a mess and the only democracy now is the only broadcast that covers it and I don't even think they're covering their Romania stuff but I've heard about it. And Croatia's going to vote on Sunday in a referendum whether they should enter the European Union Really? Is that even a question at this point

33:17 You know, I bet you they vote yes. Oh of course they do! It's either rigged or they've been mind-controlled or whatever but... Well i go to Croatia occasionally because I write for a magazine there Because it has good hookers And beautiful, kind of still got a Soviet griminess to it but its really nice place and uh... Enjoy while it lasts The country is Really high on getting into the EU because they there they have this Eastern European mentality that they can soak Soak them. Yeah, I mean They got an anecdote to just kind of typifies this because it's really Part of the old Yugoslavia and they still have a certain way of thinking about things so I'm coming in on a train from Munich going through Slovenia And then into Croatia

34:08 and I'm told, and I went to the Deutsche, the DBON, the Deutsche train system. They have these big offices all over the place in Germany And I had this UREL pass and I went from office...I was suspicious about it. I didn't think it could get me to Croatia So I go into the office with these Germans, efficient Germans, and they look at yes you can! No problem And so they tell me it's okay. So well, it turns out I wasn't okay and I figured it out why later but so I go to Slovenia and I'm in first class because you might as well get the first-class thing that your rail passes are cheap. Living high! High on the hogs. I was living high on the hog... So soon as I get into Slovenia some officious guy comes up he looks at my Eurorail pass and says no this is no good Who are you kidding? And so I said what? He says this is no good

35:02 I said what am i gonna do he says you can pay me and you can stay here in this first class thing it was like five bucks so its okay. Did you get a BJ with that? I wish So anyway, so there was I got by stayed there and I said oh great when do I get the next border? So I go into the Croatian border same guy comes rolling through za. This is no good No good give me another what am I gonna do about it and this is more Kurdish as Croatian compared to slovenia in a nutshell The guy winks and walks out Hey, you're good with me citizen. I don't care! He says i'm not going to do the paperwork you can stay on the train as far as i'm concerned. That's good and that's Croatia so then you know you gotta kind of project that into the EU So the whole thing in Romania is they're so angry because now they've got hundreds of billions that uh...that they owe and everyone just saying hey our government these guys just stole it

36:05 You know, there's and there's all kinds of Romanian jokes like you know what is the stat? What is the Yahoo instant messenger status of the Prime Minister it's always set to invisible. You know stuff like that so this is some humor there. Yeah we've got a couple of producers who are keeping us up-to-speed on what's going on but now they're protesting in London as well I think it's time for no fly zone over Romania I gotta implement that. I didn't know anything about the London protests, you'd think they report that! They're the most advanced protesters they got all kinds of very organized very organized because of the kettling thing they came once the kettle in began the protesters became extremely organized so that they can yeah cuz the British and if you've been in these London streets you could see how easy it is to corner everybody surround them and you just keep him there for until their boards stiff and called Ketlin

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Cash Transaction Limits, European Financial Surveillance

Reports from Europe suggest a push to lower the legal limit for cash transactions to as little as 400 euros to combat money laundering. The hosts argue this is a move toward a cashless society designed to create a total financial dossier on every citizen. They also briefly touch on rising gold prices and the potential for five-dollar-per-gallon gasoline in the United States.

cashless society· money laundering· surveillance· gold prices· gas prices

36:58 And then finally from Baron von Pelsenmacher, who's always keeping me up to speed with another one of the great nation states of the Union that is the United States of Europe. Remember we were talking about how they are lowering the amount of cash you can use to buy something and it's now lowered to 5,000 but they wanted to go to 3,000? Now there are calls for the maximum amount of cash transaction to be 400 euros What oh yeah, and they're just coming out now and saying you know we've got to stop all this Money laundering and the thieves are using cash so you have to go to cashless And of course everyone's going like okay. Oh alright That's good. You right if we don't want nobody thieving man. Let's listen. This is go to cat hey Let's use near-field communications on my phone not that's good The Baron is nice sounds just just like that and the Baron is not pleased

37:56 He is not pleased my friend. I wouldn't think so that's uh... You don't want to go to a cashless society then you just essentially your whole life is in a dossier Uh yeah, that's the whole point That's right no agenda show keeping an eye on the euro for you letting you know what's going on was it's really gone It popped up a little bit to 128 now, but it was down to 126 and it's a trouble. It's trouble It's at a kind of a plateau its troubles who it is right now a Plateau but gold moving up again

38:40 We're inching up on 1700 and of course now they're predicting as could be expected with all this bull crap about the Straits of Hormuz that we'll probably going to pay 5 bucks a gallon for gas. Yeah, crude oil is up a little bit but there's actually as we speak today at the moment that this is being done gold Is that 1654 down 590 and the euro was up to a buck 29? Oh Okay. Well, there you go. No So I guess haiku Herman answering all those questions helped it must have he's like hey man Temporary fix no agenda guys are talking about your haiku good job Let's pop it up a penny Good job

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Costa Concordia Cruise Ship Disaster

The hosts comment on the framing of the Costa Concordia shipwreck in Italy. They mock Captain Francesco Schettino's claim that he accidentally tripped and fell into a lifeboat while passengers were still on board. The discussion focuses on the perceived cowardice of the crew and the conflicting media reports surrounding the event.

costa concordia· francesco schettino· italy· shipwreck· maritime safety

39:28 Meanwhile, wow I mean so hard these these weeks are difficult when you have basically only two new stories One of course being the cruise ship which is just I mean and I know aviation. I know nothing about nautical So I can't really comment on it But there's all this so many conflicting stories And yeah, they do like to I'd like that I do like the framing of the story. I think it's hilarious, not because people died but because the captain is portrayed as this you know open-shirted you know gold chain wearing douchebag. Italian! Who ran off the ship before anyone else. No he fell into the lifeboat and apparently the people that were on this ship that have reported on the various news mechanisms

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Rick Perry Exit, Mitt Romney Tax Returns

Rick Perry officially withdraws from the 2012 presidential race and endorses Newt Gingrich. The hosts discuss the implications for Mitt Romney, who faces increasing pressure to release his income tax records. Romney's hesitant response during a debate is highlighted as he suggests he might release them in April, following the tradition of previous candidates.

rick perry· mitt romney· newt gingrich· gop primary· tax returns

40:17 All say that when they got on and finally got to shore, the whole shore was the first people there were all the crew. This lovely crew It all bails out. I mean, what kind of an operation are they running? These people are supposed to help you. Well, I don't believe we're getting any true information at all. No, but it's hilarious! It is... But I love the he tripped and fell into the lifeboat that's kind of like honey, I wasn't cheating on you. I tripped and fell onto her. You know, it was like it just happened. Weird, but really weird how that just I just tripped and fell onto a man. I didn't mean to do it. Didn't mean it And then of course this morning just before the show started finally, finally we have an actual reason to play the jingle. Adios mofo! As Rick Perry leaves the race now this kind of blows your prediction because he's now come out and he's endorsed The Newt Newt Gingrich so it's gonna be kind of weird if Romney becomes president and he wants Rick Perry to be vice-president that's not gonna work

41:22 I'm going to lose that prediction. I'll keep the prediction in the book, but... Well you can't go messing with the book! I can't mess with a book but i will say that he's gonna have a hard time getting on the ticket at this point and if Romney gets in As the choice he could just go off to reservation and pick somebody like Gary Johnson or I think he has to pick a Christian evangelical To make it work because of the Mormon thing, but he might he might not. I don't know where all the Mormons Coming out with outrage about him supporting abortion how does that work?

42:02 Isn't that like in the Book of Mormon, that's not okay? No I don't think the Mormons are really on that topic. Alright then... There more..I think they would be more interested in the fact he had a Coca-Cola Why?! You can drink Coca-Cola you have to drink and you cant have caffeine it is part of religion Oh really! He cannot have alcohol or caffeine He so handsome though He's such a handsome man. He is such a weasel, I mean this question about him...I think i have a little piece of it. I bet he's hot naked! I bet he has got nice chest with nice chest hair and that what do we want in America?

42:40 We want Putin. Yeah, we want a Putin he's got more hair on top and a big motorcycle yeah you know hit this just on tax returns thing which I actually could have clipped from the debate but took it off its Colbert system laugh track in the back but Mitt Romney on tax returns is...I mean this guy he did the same thing at some other question he just can't say yes and no now isn't there another there was a debate that was that was a clue for a clip oh i'm so sorry you're listening to what i was but i didn't understand the uh... release your income tax records you know how i looked at what has been done in that in campaigns in the past with senator mccain and president george w bush and others they've tended to release tax records in april or taxes and but you know if a defense for the tradition of

43:32 opposed to doing that, time will tell. I have nothing in them that suggests there's any problem and i'm happy to do so. I sort of feel like we're showing a lot of exposure at this point and if I become our nominee... And what's happened in history is people have released them about April of the coming year and that's probably what I'd do." Well he's like a filibuster! One man filibuster on all these questions can't he just answer em? By the way, I want to give you kudos. We could have both said it but Obama made a big deal about SOPA and PIPA?

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

White House Stance, SOPA and PIPA Veto Question

Anish Chopra, the White House Chief Technology Officer, avoids answering whether President Obama would veto the SOPA or PIPA legislation. In an interview on Bloomberg West, Chopra emphasizes the administration's goal of reducing piracy through voluntary industry standards rather than committing to a specific legislative veto. The hosts characterize the response as a political filibuster.

anish chopra· barack obama· sopa· pipa· intellectual property

44:08 And you know, the question is well he talks a big game but would he veto the bill? I've got the clip. Oh! This was just a real luck shot it was like one of those shots in pool where you hit as hard as you can and come up with something. This was from Bloomberg West on a broadcast that this woman does tech reporting mostly she had Anish Chopra you know that CIO or whatever the hell he is. He's Vivek Kundra's buddy, he's the CTO, he is worst than Vivek Kundra, listen to his answer when directly asked will Obama veto the SOPA PIPA if it comes on his desk? Now this statement from the White House did suggest that you oppose this particular legislation Is this something if SOPA or PIPA crossed the president's desk would he veto it? We said

45:05 the principles would be met for us to engage on legislative activity to support this policy objective, that is to reduce the adverse economic effects of the loss of intellectual property because of piracy. So we in fact have asked Congress for legislation so I want to be very careful We did not say anything specifically in opposition to a particular piece of legislation. We laid out our principles for how we would consider engagement and said, we want legislation this year but under these circumstances. And oh by the way I would also point out one of our key points in the letter was acknowledging that there's a lot that we can do together absent legislation and we will not wait for congressional action to keep moving

45:45 voluntary industry standards activities. To tie it back to the energy discussion, the way in which the utility sectors voluntarily agree to share data in a standardized format is this is a voluntary action we celebrate today much like the content community and the tech industry might voluntarily agree on measures to reduce uh... the economic effects of piracy so we celebrated and encouraged those discussions to take place. Do you think there's an inherent conflict of interest between the protection of IP and the freedom of information. I mean, can the internet exist without violating intellectual property? I don't see these as mutually exclusive... Yeah so he didn't answer the question He didn't answer the question! And then he filibustered it She doesn't follow up with hey, ask you a simple question She's already thinking about her next questions she is not listening

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

ICANN Leadership, Rod Beckstrom Resignation

The hosts examine the leadership at ICANN as CEO Rod Beckstrom prepares to step down in July. They criticize the high executive compensation and the appointment of Elad Levinson, a psychotherapist and HR professional, to a leadership role within the organization. The discussion links these management changes to broader concerns about internet governance and the recent SOPA blackout protests.

icann· rod beckstrom· elad levinson· domain names· nonprofit· cybersecurity

46:33 He goes on and on about God knows what, I don't even know what he said. We celebrate cooperation! Alright so you brought up SOPA and there's a couple of things so we had this blackout yesterday Yeah, I've blogged a couple of times about different things and the most important thing is wrong battlefield people really wrong battlefield who is The people who are and there's plenty of information about this who are Sponsoring these bills or were that to say me protest is always good But it this is not really going to work. The next piece of action must be To just stop consuming

47:18 mainstream media, big entertainment company content. You have to stop going to the movies you have to stop watching television I know it's hard because American Idol kicked off last night it was difficult It was very difficult! I don't even know what to watch Presidential debates and American Idol they're gonna be competing tonight it will be very difficult That's the true way because Congress and they're bought and paid for by these guys. How do you think you get on the air? Do you think you get on television, on news shows if you're not in their pocket it's a lot more difficult

47:54 So anyway, you know on the last show I talked about ICANN. Yeah it's a lot more difficult because you might come on some national show and then go on about how Michael Jackson was probably murdered... Yeah no, you get kicked off! And then never get invited back We retired the clip you know? I'm not gonna play it again No I don't need it so this ICANN who I think are the true is the true evil in here I've been doing some more research into ICANN And so we know that the CEO, Rod Beckstrom. That he's a former Department of Homeland Security Cybersecurity Director He is retiring! He is quitting in July Did you know this? No these guys they go through them like it's some... Like prunes through a duck So there's an ad in The Economist Do you what the CEO of the non-profit ICANN makes

48:50 I don't know. $500,000? $800,000! How much? 800,000 That's a lot of money for a CEO of ICANN Of- of a nonprofit And not only that but it's a traveling job so you get lots of free travel Yeah On a jet. I'll betcha there is an ICANN Jet Well there should be But there is all kinds of weird stuff There's this... They did this secret directorship appointment Rod Beckstrom did of this guy Elad Levinson who's a psychotherapist, specialized in weight loss. Yeah that's the guy I want determining the future of the domain name system Let's thin it down! So it's... The whole ICANN thing is you know I'm just keeping my eye on it because very very very weird but the thing that so upsetting as you can't It has gotten to the point where you can even have an opinion without people going You suck man! Your SOPA supporter man! What?

49:55 Why do they always do that to you anyway? Yeah, but it's... and now I'm getting comments on my blog from anon at anon.com Alright so I'll just let you know Elad Levinson this is his LinkedIn profile It's kind of funny Founder of Noble Purpose Consulting A private organizational development firm setting the standard for integrating innovation employee engagement stakeholder involvement collaboration increased investor value founder of Pounds for Poverty, reversing the disease crisis in obesity through mindfulness and altruism based health improvement. So this guy is a new age whack job from Delphi University where he graduated and what has he got to do with Icon? Well it's fine if you want us to be a partner in growth Sherpas lose weight mindfully pounds for poverty noble purpose consulting

50:52 Interaction associates and I don't know what else. He's got a lot of, and he was at the Stanford University Medical Center doing something manager of human... He was an HR guy! There you go so we can all like feel good Maybe he's on the I don't know maybe he's on the compensation committee That's usually what you want to do You want to hire board members who are in your pocket who are in the compensation committee? So when it comes, I mean, I know how this works. Oh yeah and by the way, I'd like to point out that John and I are in a complete violation of the rules of Mevio Inc I should have been in San Francisco at a board meeting which started half an hour ago And you were actually requested to be on premises Yeah, well, I'm a part-time employee so I can okay all right

51:35 I have to make money. You and me, exactly! I wanted it to sound like all high and mighty, like you know continuity of the show but no we need to make money so just... We need to make money for the continuity of this show yeah we're very concerned about that because we do have listeners that would like to listen to the show live And we rarely go off the rails when it comes to doing this show on time. What do we have now? We got like 700-800 now listening live, imagine those people sitting in your living room you know that's a lot of people and it's from all over the world too. You just made me cringe at that I don't have a living room that'll hold 700 maybe you do So I've been following this

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Ulsterman Report, Death of Kam Kuwata

The hosts discuss a report from the Ulsterman website involving a "White House Insider" who claims Barack Obama was physically incapacitated during the 2008 Denver convention. The story alleges that Democratic strategist Kam Kuwata died under mysterious circumstances after witnessing Obama in a drugged state. The narrative suggests a power struggle between the White House and Senator Dianne Feinstein regarding the timing of the Bin Laden announcement.

kam kuwata· barack obama· diane feinstein· denver convention· conspiracy

52:19 this Ulsterman report who has uh who interviews and publishes these interviews with two people the Wall Street insider and the Washington, the White House insider. And a lot of people you know say this may be disinformation but it's fascinating so we don't know who the guy is um but every couple of weeks he sits down with this guy from the ulstermanreport.com yeah I like this guy i mean i like the Ulsterman Report you i haven't you read it more religiously than I do every time I read it go wow! So This guy in his most recent, it's linked in the show notes 375.nashownotes.com he tells a story about the 2008 convention in was it Denver?

53:05 the big like arena there was a Denver convention it was the big one where Obama they moved all the protesters into some caged off you know free speech zone outside of town right but it was like a Roman festival remember that? It was all, amazing. It was huge, a huge stadium so the story is that... Was this a Democratic convention I think so yeah oh yeah well it wasn't Republican and I'll tell you that The insider, the White House insider tells a story as to how Obama was practicing and he's separated from his you know then so you know they're literally doing teleprompter hitting the marks on the stage because it's all scripted in rehearsed. And then he comes offstage and is social security... social? His secret service detail are literally carrying him He's white as a sheet Who? Obama? Obama yeah! And he can barely walk

54:01 And the insider talks about the guy who was, and I'm going to get to this guy in a second. The guy who was organized pretty much organizing the event of very famous guy we'll talk about and he was really concerned because they thought you know maybe Obama had eaten some bad food it looked like that guy was gonna puke He couldn't walk They sent him into room they kick everybody out no one's allowed to go in and then this organizer of the event Here's Gregorian chants coming from the room continuous Gregorian chance and about half an hour later a door opens up first Obama's makeup lady comes out And then the White House insider goes on to talk about how Obama always has makeup on but that's why his skin color changes sometimes because they have A different product or different makeup girl or whatever. Yeah, always caked on it's caked on and

54:59 And then Obama comes out bouncing around completely like the guy you see on television. But two things, one his eyes were blinking incessantly which the White House insider alludes to the fact that he probably got doped up amphetamines or something like that And then he talks to this organizer of the event and doesn't know who he is. He doesn't recognize him, looks right through him and this is a very important person I'm going to talk about it so then the insider goes on to say that this guy, this organizer of the event, he told a couple people about what happened

55:39 Because it's really weird, right? I mean it's almost like you know they this like the guy is being propped up by drugs and has to be shot up with stuff and has to have Gregorian chanting. And God knows what's going on! It's like a Gregorian chant Well that's very weird He tells a couple people this guy Dead winds up dead and what the insider is saying is Essentially he was killed by The Obama administration. I want to read from the interview and that was able to figure it out so We got the death of a long-timer, an operative. Good solid party guy 50 something years old natural causes no investigation he sees something about the current United States president says it shares it with some others including a senator they're tight go... How old was he again? 57 okay Go away I have all the information you don't have to google it

56:33 Go back, go back away. She's got power if she has if she gets some kind of information that makes her a threat it makes him a threat there is business partner he well wouldn't you know what he has a serious legal threat brought down on him around the same time imagine that but he was told something to write no accident their warning warnings as well and what was going on they're back the F off and it was coming right from the White House boys are worse yet back to effing Chicago the unions That vote that pissed him off so much and then they killed him. And now they're talking to the senator herself right on it theft and the effing thief is I shit you not she headed up in Obama group, that's either balls or stupid or both is just effing insane the Senator she knew something

57:16 That vote, how she bypassed Obama on the Bin Laden announcement. That wasn't his call and she knew it. She knew it! Her words were that night no one knows when No one knows how no one knows why She was warning them to back off Warning the White House to back the F off So I'm like wow what the hell is all this about? The guy who died and wasn't found for days after a so-called heart attack Was Kam Kouada And this guy, super powerful Democratic strategist. He's a real money guy really connected big ties to Hollywood so he dies no one sees him for days an apparent heart attack it's K-A-M-K-U-W-A-T-A and at that night Senator Feinstein Diane Feinstein

58:14 is talking about how it's horrible that Cam died. And then she, an hour before the president came on television told people right there we got Osama Bin Laden so it was like this huge power play going on and that's when she said you never know when you never know how you never know why and It's kind of open-ended there for me but I know we've tracked the Clinton body count Man, it would not surprise me. It would not surprise me if they didn't want anyone to know what's going on with that Obama is a robot or the double as we suspect that there are two of them and they drugged the guy up just to get him on stage and now I'm gonna really start paying attention to a lot more of his appearance but i think its very credible

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Michelle Obama, Scripted Interview Gaffes

A clip of Michelle Obama being interviewed by Gayle King is analyzed for signs of heavy scripting. The hosts point out a specific phrasing error where she appears to misplace a line about being an "angry black woman." They argue this suggests the First Lady memorizes and recites prepared talking points rather than speaking authentically.

michelle obama· gail king· nicolas sarkozy· media training· scripting

59:18 Well, that's a good one. I think i'll give you that there should be well there is no clip No, there isn't. I'd give you the clip of the day but you have no clip. I do have a clip to kind of...I don't know why this comes to mind but I knew of a clip just to discuss the possibility that both Obama and Michelle Obama are so scripted that I want you to listen to this clip. I was listening and said, wait a minute what she's saying is she obviously memorized the script but she can't deliver her lines properly so it comes off very odd, it comes off oddly the way she puts the sentence together because she's not saying it. She is remembering and then spewing it but play the clip Michelle Obama on being an angry black woman French President Nicolas Sarkozy asked Mrs. Obama how she liked living in The White House

1:00:17 Mrs. Obama reportedly replied, quote, don't ask it's hell I can't stand it unquote both Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Bruni denied the first lady ever made the comment Mrs. Obama does not like the depiction. I guess it's more interesting to imagine this conflicted situation here and a strong woman, but that has been an image people have tried to paint of me since the day Barack announced that i'm some angry black woman Who can write about how I feel?

1:00:57 So she says the day Barack announced that I'm an angry black woman. Which, I don't think he ever did that? No he never did because what it is if you listen to that sentence again yeah she had part...it was supposed to be parsed She was supposed to say The day Barack announced period right Ever since Barack announced his position ever since he announced they were saying that i was in angry black women ever since he announced but Wow, hold on a second. Let me hear that last last bit again No But that's been an image that people have tried to paint of me since you know the day Barack announced that I'm some angry black woman John John John Totally she might even be reading it for all we know

1:01:51 Well she was talking to some black correspondents on one of the networks. They wouldn't know I think that was Gail wasn't she talking to gale Oprah's bestest buddy? I think that was the gale interview oh, that could be yeah, I think it was so she's Reciting something She was told to memorize and watch the line Wow just such an extreme that are just like that's pretty funny well Something else very interesting as I was watching this new news report and of course, you know from day one. I've been like I don't like this Valerie Jarrett woman. I don't like this She's a slumlord from Chicago. I don't trust her. I don't like her just did it And we know nothing about other than that she's a slumlord listen to this report

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Valerie Jarrett, Secret Service Detail

The hosts question why White House advisor Valerie Jarrett was seen with a Secret Service detail during a speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church. They also comment on a video message sent by President Obama for Betty White's 90th birthday, where he jokingly asks for her long-form birth certificate, which the hosts interpret as a taunt toward the "birther" movement.

valerie jarrett· secret service· ebenezer baptist church· barack obama· betty white

1:02:35 If you weren't there early, you had a hard time finding two seats together. On the Sunday before the MLK Jr holiday, Ebenezer Baptist was at capacity and with Secret Service agents flanking the rear exits Senior White House advisor Valerie Jarrett commanded everyone's attention. Now hold on a second since when does an advisor have a secret service security detail? Yes that this is weird unless she's the real president Now listen to what she says. Thank you so much, good morning! Four years ago Barack Obama came here as a senator before taking office now with another election around the corner one of his top advisors reminded the congregation of all the good that has come under Obama's presidency We all sleep a little easier at night knowing that Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants are not plotting a terrorist attack I saw so many soldiers in the airport returning home

1:03:35 From their last tour of duty in Iraq and time for the Christmas holidays. Yes, just to turn back and go to Afghanistan So I'm like wow since when does an advisor have a Secret Service security detail that to me was very very weird Very weird. That's very weird and then you know, they're just throwing it in our face I'm sure a lot of people may not have seen this around the world But Betty White celebrated her 90th birthday And of course everybody loves Betty White because she's funny and she's uh She's still walking around and she's just crazy old lady and she's great actress It should she's directed stuff. She's written stuff You know celebrated for good reason as there's an American icon

1:04:19 and at her celebration, the president sent a video message. Ladies and gentlemen, an official birthday message from President Barack Obama Dear Betty You look so fantastic and full of energy I can't believe you're 90 years old In fact...I don't believe it That's why i'm writing to ask if you will be willing to produce a copy of your long form birth certificate Thanks and happy birthday no matter how old you are. So uh, that's just like throwing it in your face. I screw you slaves! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You can't get me on that! Slap on some more makeup! I gotta go talk to the people!

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

White House Lockdown, Smoke Bomb Incident

A brief lockdown occurred at the White House after an unidentified individual threw a smoke bomb over the fence. The hosts suggest these types of incidents are "trial balloons" or tests of security and media response, noting that the story disappeared from the news cycle within thirty minutes.

white house· secret service· lockdown· smoke bomb· trial balloon

1:05:09 And then they tried another one of those false flag tests because, you know we've got to get all kinds of racial stuff going for this election season. We've got to have another attack on the president but it didn't work. You know they try these to see if it'll stick did you catch it? No, I missed this one. There's breaking news from and about the White House tonight that the details are extremely sketchy right now The White House is reportedly on lockdown to what are described as smoking objects were found near the North Portico According to the US Secret Service somebody threw a smoke bomb like device over the north fence at the White House earlier this evening They do not know who threw the device and no arrests have been made Now the president and first lady were not out the white house at the time of the incident

1:05:54 Right? That's another test. To me that is another trial balloon like the guy that shot and left his AK in the car and everything These have got to be just tests or something They're tests of... yeah, they are tests but of what? Pfff! To see if the news picks it up Well, they picked that one up. Everyone made a big deal about it. In fact I was watching one of the shows... It went away like in 30 minutes it was gone! Yeah, it was gone in thirty minutes but there was picked up and I remember watching one of the shows getting looking for clips And the guy mentioned it and he says, oh looks like there's this we'll get back to it later. They picked up but they didn't do much with it so I think that was a fail. Something very disturbing I came across. This is interesting...

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Radioactive Tissue Boxes, Bed Bath & Beyond Recall

Federal regulators warn that metal tissue box holders sold at Bed Bath & Beyond may be contaminated with radioactive material from China. One of the hosts realizes he has the exact product in his home. This leads to a long discussion about purchasing Geiger counters and the potential health risks of low-level radiation exposure from household items.

bed bath & beyond· radiation· geiger counter· china· consumer safety

1:06:54 Well, you know I was complaining earlier at the beginning of the show about the PayPal thing. Yeah So I did the request for the four days of data yeah and then I said I must see what happens if I trigger so then I bought an hour later when I didn't get it I requested seven days of data And I got to seven days in the four days is still processing there's something amiss Do you think we're being singled out or do you think? Well, I mean they gave me the data of the long form data. The longer... They wouldn't give this short one and it's got the same stuff in it So do we have the data now? Yes, I'm sending over to JC hopefully he'll be able to do a bit This is rather disturbing. I came across a note metal... Are you with me?

1:07:48 Metal tissue holders contaminated with low levels of radioactive material may have been distributed by Bed Bath & Beyond stores in more than 20 states, including New York. Federal regulators said Thursday and then you go down a little bit and says if someone has one of these they could receive a small radiation dose from it for example Someone keeping one of these boxes on a vanity in the bathroom and spending about 30 minutes a day near it for a year would receive the equivalent of... A couple chest x-rays. Wow! I know about this, and this is one that by the way.. I don't want to sound like i'm paranoid like you Before you go on? I have right here at my studio One of those boxes WOW We have upstairs in our bathroom One of these boxes Im being radiated as we speak

1:08:45 So I need a dosimeter or a Geiger counter or something. Yeah, so I can see if it's true...I'm holding it in my hand Johnny! It is from China. Yeah? I would put it down No wonder I'm feeling so weird. No wonder the shows have been off for the past year Are you feeling good? Can can I get a dosimeter do you think that's possible maybe I can borrow one from The TSA now that they're all gonna be wearing them we actually have them send me a dosimeter man with a little dose simmer that I have, I'm not sure that it's I think you got to buy one but JC is like studied this and Buzzkill Jr. to an extreme, we have a Geiger counter in the house. Get me- send me the Geiger counter! We need the Geiger counter! Dude I'm being irradiated here what do you mean YOU need it? I have an actual radioactive box sitting next to my nuts. These Geiger counters are available you should just get one. I'll be- I can't- I'll never be able to make another child i have a lawsuit

1:09:41 Think I think I'm sitting on a buttload of money here. Oh Yeah, also eight send me the freaking Geiger counter and I'll split the money with you okay as a deal Wow You know I wonder at I'm glowing right now, but we have two of them John to love them why? For my tissues oh You living in a hotel It's from Bed Bath & Beyond dude bed bath and buttholes Wow, I was just like oh my god and I called Mickey. She's out. I said do we where did you get those? Those metal tissue boxes a bed bath and be honest no

1:10:23 She's like, get rid of him! Get rid of him! I'm like are you kidding? This is awesome. So can I order a Geiger counter from Amazon because I don't know how to get that from Amazon Talk to JC first because he knows the ins and outs of what's a good one and which type to get You want to get one of the civil defense ones they've been discontinued They used to give them... The government used to make them out of the blue They decided to stop Oh, they're expensive. Oh, they're really expensive John There's there are hundreds of dollars. Oh, yeah well they are hundreds of dollars if that's expensive in my world Yeah, I'm just saying they're not but again talk to buzzkill jr.. He's like an expert on it You think he you may actually have an extra one too? Not sure Did your kid just walk around with holsters with Geiger counters in them and stuff? I can just imagine what the Dvorak household is like oh

1:11:15 Hey man, I calibrated my Geiger counter. That's right! They're like 400 bucks man! No some time ago i wanted to get a Geiger counter so uh... Of course and why did you want one John? Because of things like this yeah and now on now or the radioactive fish coming in from Japan i don't you know i'm being irradiated have been so for over a year and you won't even send me a geiger counter thanks bud i told you i would we'll take care of it okay you're going to be taken care Oh, there's one on eBay. Here we go Buzzkill Jr.. Oh two for 150 are these the good ones then? It is buzz buzz he's the expert radiation detection kit oh what I have to solder this myself Okay, I don't want to put it together as complained. I'd want to put it together well looks pretty hardcore man Wow these are oh they were that these are big too wow the big and yellow and so how much Geiger counting would be too much

1:12:16 I don't know what you're talking about. How many Geigers would be too much? Uh, I don't know Again, you're talking to the wrong guy and always keep asking me questions Okay Wow these look really cool like metal casing with a big yellow this looked like the one in the movies actually Yeah with a big dial on it. It's probably a prop BuzzkillG is just like yeah buy these they are really cheap two for 150 Okay, anyway I just thought that was rather interesting that i'm going to die. No you're... well okay back to the story Hey citizen! Uh you go you-I'm sure you got a story uh well why don't you come up with something first so I can get these two files over to JC then? When did I come up with something?! Okay Well I've got a couple of things here's one here's one So um

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Thom Hartmann, David Bray Debate Conflict

The hosts review a segment from Thom Hartmann's show on Russia Today featuring musician David Bray. Bray breaks the typical guest protocol by aggressively challenging Hartmann on the topics of free college education and Mitt Romney's tax rates. The hosts find the lack of decorum and Hartmann's visible frustration entertaining.

thom hartmann· david bray· russia today· education· capital gains

1:13:15 They I don't know if you've been watching. I've been watching Thom Hartman recently So he brings this guy on who is a rock and roll guy? He's I think he thought it was gonna be on his side, but just because he's on Russia today again so he's got this panel he's got the rock-and-roll guy who doesn't apparently has never apparently been on television in his life His name is David Bray and his he's from a band called rising Madison And so Bray goes off the reservation and I think he didn't realize that he was supposed to be on Hartman's side because there was the other guy that was on the panel, a right-wing ideologue. Normal right wing looks like a Mormon guy with his suit and tie on. So Bray meanwhile starts attacking Hartman

1:14:04 the show and I got two clips and they well Hartman's reading off the prompter, the guys in the background making snide comments. Hartman doesn't know what to do about it so play Hartman & Bray Go At It here's takeover detroit and so off the privatize whatever he's going to do uh... democratic state senators are trying to put stay back on track they have this idea yet the governor has been three-and-a-half billion dollars in tax breaks two billionaires corporations in the state and they're saying then it hasn't create any jobs stun nothing amid made a bunch of rich people whole lot richer as we say in let's let's end the tax breaks

1:14:45 let anybody in the state go to college, go to a state college who's capable of getting into college. The way it used to be, the way that Abraham Lincoln organized it back in 1850s when land-grant colleges were... You have to define capable of getting into college these days I mean the educational system we all know is broken anyway why anybody stands behind That's not the issue. But what you're saying is sending people to college for free? The issue is do you think that we should try all the other developed countries in the world and have free college? No, no, you earn college. College is earned. You pay for it. You work intellectually. There is a...you're an intellectual, that's what your job if you believe that's what your job is done. Education is broken. I'm saying, I don't disagree that you should earn the right to go to college by having the capability of handling college. But if somebody's going to give it to you why earn it?

1:15:30 You're talking about the money end. I'm talking about the education of it? I'm the one who tried to tell you that... Hey man, it's my show. Shut up and do what I tell you! So a couple of segments go on and now while Hartman is reading from the prompter he starts interrupting him as he's doing the read. Right in the middle of it saying oh yeah really? Your mom wears army boots dude. it was uh... three hundred and seventy thousand two hundreds of whether there was any i would be upset so he pays a fifteen percent tax rate while the rest of us are paying upwards of thirty five percent that's why on capital gains and then he collects speaking fees not that much actually

1:16:16 What do you pay on your capital gains? What Romney considers not that much is $362,000 a year. That's how much Mitt made giving speeches in Texas. Who's to say what not much is for 16 trillion dollars in debt! Let me finish this setup. That's seven times more than Mitt makes and his islands. We're worried about Mitt and Romney as a unit. To Romney, not all that much. The question is... Oil money over so we can build islands off of Dubai. Dave back off for a second here. So the question is what does Mitt Romney spend his not-all-that-much speaking fees on A fuel for his private jet B, magic underwear for the less than fortunate Mormons in his congregation or C lots of $10,000 bits. What's he spending that? I didn't even listen you know what I'm still upset about the... Let's hope he supports the Mormons hows that? Whether it be underwear or with more books

1:17:04 Now you have to realize that the first part of this clip, this was a one shot on Hartman reading the stuff off the prompt. He's trying to be cute and coy and all these comments were over him in the background Well, he's trying to read from the prompter. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen it was a good say it's like now I finally got a reason to watch The guy if that kind of it wasn't just out of control who will never be invited back? I can assure you right but it was like what is where's this guy even on this show He doesn't know the protocol obviously and I don't know I couldn't get anything else off with the heart which really deteriorating let me just make one mention he says

1:17:43 I would like to know how you get much more radically more rich by not being taxed. He says in the first clip, he says yeah well these rich guys they're trying to get a tax benefit so now they're richer How do you make money on not getting? You got X amount of money, you don't get taxed What is at the end of day what have you got? The same x amount how does that make you richer His logic is... anyway, that's just a pet peeve. Never mind I'm done You shouldn't be watching that stuff man Let me send you one of my tissue boxes That'll calm you down I'm telling ya the Hartman show is the worst and it has got that bug-eyed thing going on Well don't watch then if its irritating you Sorry American Idol is on tonight second episode So the International Association of uh... No The International Atomic Energy Agency

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

IAEA Iran Report, Nuclear Ambitions Claims

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released a report in November 2011 regarding Iran's nuclear program. The hosts compare the rhetoric to the lead-up to the Iraq War, pointing out that the report relies on "secret information" from member states rather than transparent evidence. They express skepticism about the claim that Iran is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon.

iaea· iran· nuclear weapons· weapons of mass destruction· intelligence

1:18:36 Sorry, the IAEA has released their November 2011 reports on how evil Iran is and They're doing the same thing now remember you want to if for those of you who care And who aren't gonna want be watching American Idol There's another debate on tonight. What was that? Hello? What are you doing? You're not even listening to me. He picks up his email you like it would put every time I whistle you ask me what it is? I'm gonna tell you when you hear me whistling It's a get JC's attention he's in the back room And I can't do it from this mic because it'll be they don't blow out their whole system I have this extremely loud whistle, so that's that hey citizen So the work International Atomic Energy Agency yes, I was listening has released their new report so everyone is you know I read

1:19:34 Nuclear weapon, nuclear weapon! We're gonna kill it, we're gonna get it! Then the YBs will be off the map! Yeah, we got to go kill him! Fuck yeah! That's what you're going to hear tonight. So of course I've downloaded this report for you and I would like to point out by the way that when... ...when we were looking at weapons of mass destruction before going into Iraq they uh... The first report that came out wasn't sufficient and they fired the guy who was writing the reports. So this is how corrupt this entire IAEA is and here we go so credibility of information, so they once again saw the same charts and like well if you do this to this and cross the wire over there you could potentially make something boom

1:20:27 Uh, credibility information paragraph 13. In addition to the alleged studies documentation the agency has received information from more than 10 member states! This has included procurement information, information on international travel by individuals said to have been involved in the alleged activities financial records documents reflecting health and safety arrangements another document demonstrating manufacturing techniques for certain high explosive components This information reinforces and tends to corroborate the information reflected in the alleged studies documentation, and relates to activities substantially beyond those identified in that documentation. What bull crap is this? So they're saying we have once again secret information that's not in the report... That might kind of seem to tend to back up what were implying

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Ray McGovern, Israeli Influence on Iran Policy

Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern claims that all 19 U.S. intelligence agencies agreed in 2003 that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons ambitions. McGovern suggests that Israeli interests are intentionally sabotaging diplomatic deals and carrying out assassinations to maintain high tensions. The hosts discuss McGovern's history of activism, including his arrest for protesting a Hillary Clinton speech.

ray mcgovern· cia· hillary clinton· israel· mossad· uranium

1:21:27 Is that the way I'm supposed to read this, John? Because that's how i read it as a washed up MTV VJ. So I was driving back and listening to...I was listening to the left most of the left wing radio stations in the Bay Area because curiously it was the only one I could get in this area uh that I was in. It was in Santa Cruz Mountains. That's how it starts So I'm listening to this ex-CIA guy, and you can look him up on Wikipedia. His name's Ray McGovern. And I'm going to actually do an interview or find, get a hold of him to get this spiel that he had. And he says that this and unfortunately couldn't quite get to the...I couldn't figure out what the, what is finally concluding but but this is a giant scam He believes and he says that all 19 of them, the major United States, I didn't know there were 19 But he says all 19 in the major United States intelligence agencies. Nineteen?

1:22:27 Yeah, well there's I mean we know three or four of the big ones but i guess there is a bunch of them. All agree that Iran gave up on its nuclear ambitions in 2003 and this all bull crap and it seems as if he has got this real interesting theory that is the Israelis want to keep it going And every time there's some, and he cites example after example of when we told the Iranians that we would take if you remember this was just a few years ago. We would take...you know they're so intent on getting this high concentrated uranium enriched for medical research purposes will

1:23:12 take the stuff off their hands and we'll make it and give it back to them if they shut down their facilities. And they agreed to it! Yeah, but that's not good enough. No no! That's not good enough? As to know they did agree to it and it was a...it was going forward and then the Israelis assassinated some guy Oh hey shut up...hey heart attack, heart attack He claims that these assassinations which he calls murders are part of a scheme to keep this uh..to actually increase the tension between the countries and I don't actually know why. So, i'm looking at his book of knowledge page in May 2006 McGovern attended a speech by then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld during the question-and-answer session accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence. I like this guy he's cool. His Wikipedia page is hilarious He's the guy that we remember we were doing to show the guy who turned his back on Hillary Oh right! Was that? This isn't old guy. That's this guy. He's an old coot

1:24:15 He's an old coot. Wow! But he still connected I believe because his anecdotes are typical Fantastic, I like this guy Oh here it is During a speech on February 16th 2011 George Washington University by Secretary of State Hillary Lucifer Clippity-Clop Clinton He stood silently with his back turned during her remarks leading to his arrest When asked whether Julian Assange was a hero or villain he replied Hero Wow this guy is awesome So this guy's been so marginalized... Heart attack. I don't know, he seems pretty well connected He is so marginalized though and also has become a religious nut But he is so marginalized that the only time he can get on anything Is on Pacifica Radio which is the worst

1:25:02 I mean you listen to these shows and you get some guy like this who's telling where you go wow This is good information, then the next show is a bunch of a bunch of Navajos reading poetry. I mean And it's the worst kind of radio in the world and yes, this is your classic left-wing radio now for Navajo poetry Seriously It's like what? You say why hey man don't mess with my Navajo poetry dude that shit interesting So he coined the acronym OIL, which stands for O for oil I for Israel L for logistics. Or as he says enduring interesting. Oh interesting guy well you should get an interview with him! I'm gonna try to track it down because i want to hear that...I want to get a clip from the interview of that discussion with

1:25:54 how the Israelis are querying these deals because they don't want any detente at all and I don't know. He really doesn't like Netanyahu, let's put it that way. Interesting well he should be pretty easy to get Yeah i think I can track him. Our chat room says that he was on Alex Jones That makes sense This is why I listen to Jones Is to hear guys like this I love that! Yeah well we can get these guys too We're not going to put them on our show No but we do interviews Do a separate little show Like you like to do? I think its good idea Exactly You get interesting people Put them on the stream and then take a clip that we can use on the no agenda show. And in other words, the cherry? Yes. Hey is there anything about Syria in The New York Times? Is it time to do anything about Syria because... Here's what was the message I forgot to bring up on the last show on Sunday This was the messaging this had the ship on the side of the front page of The Sunday Times

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Syria Civil War, British Special Forces in Libya

The New York Times reports on the deepening crisis in Syria, framing it as a mounting civil war. Meanwhile, the BBC confirms that British Special Forces were on the ground in Libya coordinating rebel efforts to topple Muammar Gaddafi, contradicting earlier claims of a limited air campaign. The hosts discuss the ongoing instability in Libya and the potential deployment of 12,000 troops to the region.

syria· libya· muammar gaddafi· bbc· special forces· arab league

1:26:48 And it was a the right-hand column top above the fold, top of the paper which was the messaging segment for you out there who are I guess agents that can't call home. Fear of civil war mounts in Syria as crisis deepens. A protracted conflict without Arab League success little hope for resolution In other words, we're not involved and this time it's going to be a civil war. We're gonna let it play out we're not gonna get involved or just step back that's the message I get I could be wrong well we're gonna step back you know now that the BBC of all is now reporting

1:27:31 that there were, here British efforts to help topple Colonel Gaddafi were not limited to airstrikes. On the ground and on the quiet Special Forces soldiers were blending in with rebel fighters in this previously untold account of the crucial part they played so now they're just coming out and saying it It wasn't just a no-fly zone They were in their coordinating the whole effort Yeah The whole thing! They were on the ground boots on the ground Mean not like we didn't know that but just and now they just come out and say oh, yeah by the way How awesome is that a hey? We did a good job. We had our guys blending in blending in Reports at 12 of this game part reports that twelve thousand troops are now In Malta about to go into Libya because for Libya's a mess I

1:28:29 Completely screwed it up. Oh, yeah I mean they couldn't even do that go in and kill the guy Get rid of everything and was kind of happy over there kinda. I mean no one's happy anywhere Of course we're not happy here either But you know We had no right to go in just kill the guy and take over and then we messed it It's probably the Brits well We knew that this was gonna be a fiasco when it began but now we're gonna send 12,000 troops in boots on the ground That's boots on the ground is the way I see it. And I don't know what they say when there are no boots on the ground, oh we're never going to send troops... By the way how long was it? Weren't supposed be in and out a couple of days not weeks? Let me see It is US policy that Qaddafi needs to go but let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter weeks Yeah Hey good transition there dude! Still going on We're still transitioning

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Ron Paul, Media Strategy and Elite Manipulation

The hosts analyze CNN's coverage of Ron Paul, suggesting that media elites are using his popularity to undermine President Obama while simultaneously positioning Mitt Romney as the inevitable GOP nominee. They point to interviews by Gloria Borger and Erin Burnett as evidence of a strategy to encourage Paul supporters to write him in or run him as a third-party candidate to split the vote.

ron paul· mitt romney· gloria borger· cnn· erin burnett· gop primary

1:29:28 We're working on it. So it's gonna be a matter of years? Yeah, I've come across something very interesting. I think that I know what the strategy is That the elites are playing out now with the media that they own and let me remind everybody we're not owned by anybody except for the people who support the show and And love us for what we do It's all I do you know John's got a couple extra little gigs on the side But I think this is pretty much what he does listening to Navajo poetry I mean come on that's a that's a tough gig right there but it is but i think they've they have a strategy now and their men of course they're mind-controlling everybody and I have several clips to back this up and it was Gloria Borger who's on who's the CNN political correspondent who isn't she's a real shill she's in the problematic woman

1:30:26 That should be the title of the show, Problematic Woman. She is indeed a problematic woman and she signaled it and I think i know what's going on here uh listen to this exchange with Wolf who by the way is so pleased that hey man this is breaking news. Releasing right now at this second CNN ORC urgency urgency at this second oh my cnn has it turn up the Turn up the volume, honey! See it and Wolf's got something! Mitt, Barack Obama versus Ron Paul also 48% for Obama 46 percent for Paul sampling error 3%. Those are pretty close races. Very close races I mean first of all what this tells you Wolf is that no matter who's the nominee this is probably going to be a very very tight race particularly if it's Mitt Romney

1:31:30 The eye popping number to me, of course was the Ron Paul number. And you remember 1992 this kind of reminds me a little bit of Ross Perot in 1992 not likely to be the nominee of the party but did really seriously affect the issues terrain that the candidates debated on he's managed to take the deficit issue which is important. Okay so first of all it's eye popping John my eyes popped out of my head when I saw this because his eye popping eye popping i tell ya What she is signaling is that they want to, the elites on all sides want Obama out. Republicans and Democrats they want this guy out because he's killing people! He will kill you! Valerie Jarrell will kill you! It's the Chicago gang they will kill you Yeah the elites want him out this is fact Fact of the matter is Facts! It's just a facts So they want him out

1:32:29 So she is signaling that this is what is supposed to go on now. Now, let's go over to our favorite who still needs to go and Jenny Craig you know if we were running the television station We would not be letting her walk around without shoes and all this You gotta wear the appropriate clothing Erin Burnett. You're not ready for it yet but stay at it And thats not me being sexist or anti-woman I'm just a television executive She gets a couple of- And you know that they have this meet, they have the meeting. They had this meeting sure Yeah and sometimes she's in the meeting sometimes she's not and if she is in the meeting they talk about her third person as though she's not there Right? Yeah absolutely! And then she hears the message and she gets off her ass and slims down

1:33:18 If you don't believe this, read the MTV book The History of Music Television which I was interviewed for and I'm in quite a bit. Carolyn Heldman at MTV got fired for her legs! She got fired! Fired I tell ya! Okay so Erin Burnett she gets on the Ron Paul youth movement, a guy named Trip. There's all kinds of memes going on here and listen to what she says and how he responds and what the message is. Let me ask you though because this is a crucial question for this election if not Ron Paul do you not vote at all? I mean I'm trying to figure out what happens to passionate people like you all if he's not running Do you vote for Barack Obama? Do you write his name? What do you do

1:34:09 If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, I'm probably going to write his name in. I mean, I've worked a long time on this campaign He's the person that I want to be President of the United States and my vote doesn't belong to Republicans or Democrats My vote belongs to me and I'm choosing to vote for Ron Paul. Would you hope he runs as a third party candidate? Even if that means Barack Obama wins, Ron Paul does not win and neither does the Republican nominee. No, and Ron Paul said countless amount of times that will no run third party and has no intentions in doing so And it's very important to remember that he ran as a congressman 12 times with the Republican Party AND HE'S WON! So...and he is running as a Republican for President so i think his best shot is in the Republican Party and thats the way hes gonna run He's the only one that can win.

1:35:03 So therefore, he will not run independent he says but we will all write him in. Because this is why we see these polls oh he'll beat Obama so that Mitt Romney is the chosen one and he's supposed to go in and the elites are now massaging everybody to write in Ron Paul if he does not win the Republican nomination or of course get him to run third party That will not help Barack Obama win. He, Barack Obama is out it's done the elites have decided they've chosen he's out and now they're going to use Ron Paul which is very interesting because we're gonna see a lot of money a lot of exposure a lot of stuff but it's all going to be around hey you could really ruin it he could ruin it they'll say for the Republicans but it's not true Romney has all the money

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

Bill Kristol, Neoconservative Opposition to Ron Paul

Neoconservative commentator Bill Kristol argues on C-SPAN that the Republican Party would be better off if Ron Paul left the party. Kristol criticizes Paul's "isolationist" views and compares him to Pat Buchanan. The hosts counter that Kristol and his peers are "Republicans in Name Only" (RINOs) who favor big government and international interventionism.

bill kristol· ron paul· neoconservatives· isolationism· republican party· c-span

1:35:58 Everything's on Romney, but they're gonna start giving Ron Paul lots of stuff because they need him. They need him to go all the way to the finish line Well I pointed this out and a show or two ago that he's become the blocking mechanism totally But the block is the Huckabee of this cycle, even though we don't like the idea. No we hate the idea! We hate the idea and now let's just listen to Aaron do a little ageism bit Lisa what do you think about what some might say is the irony of the fact that here you are at age 20 passionate about the oldest guy running this time who would be the oldest president ever of the United States if he won? Kook old guy! He's so old! It's not true by the way Reagan after when he ran when he got re-elected was older

1:36:44 Oh really? So that's a lie. I believe so, yes. Do you know SE... You can do the- I'll check it out to verify but i think he was Well he's- You're wrong No you're wrong! I think by the time Reagan was out of office He was older than 70 years old I'm sorry, you are wrong and I have proof because Fox tells the truth fair and balanced Do you know who S.E. Cupps is? S. E. Cupps is one of these uh She comes- she's a woman right? And she comes on these talk shows To cause trouble And she writes for I think the Daily News or the New York Daily News, something like that. Yeah one of the tabloids You could have just said she's an asshole So it's not necessarily about whether it's a Democrat or Republican in power It's about raging against the machine if you're supporting Ron Paul Don't you find it interesting though and this is anecdotal but remember The idea around McCain was that he so old Why has no one pointing out that Ron Paul was like 300 years old? Because they think they really don't

1:37:43 want to take it seriously because they see him as just kind of a figurehead. Yoda lives till 420. Alright so he's 300 years old now, wow! 420? Yeah he's three hundred years old but yoda lived to be 420 so hey thanks Fox that's what I mean well we you know this is surprising any one our listeners or us Fox has been a Ron Paul hater since the day Day he started running. He was marginalized he was never mentioned and now they have to talk about him, okay? So you know it's like I had the meeting goes well we gotta talk about the guy What are we gonna talk about let's talk about how old he is well It'll stop this juggernaut so I think Fox is just behind because them the message is out The elites have sent it out the bad signal has gone Bill Crystal who's bill crystal John oh

1:38:34 Bill Kristol is a right-wing ideologue who represents a specific group of conservatives, neocons a lot of them. And he's the son of a very famous conservative and he's on C-SPAN which you and I watch incessantly and here's him with the talking points. Can i say one final thing about Ron Paul since everyone seems so interested in him? I'm not going to apologize at all. A lot of people, when they criticize Ron Paul have to preface their criticism by saying you know he's a good guy and brings a lot to the debate...I actually don't buy that! I think it would be better for the Republican Party if he left the Republican Party. A lot of Republicans are spending a lot of time on how do we keep Ron Paul in the tent? How do we make sure he doesn't go third party? Including his other opponents? Yes and his opponents being very nice to him on stage

1:39:30 Republicans spent a lot of time keeping Pat Buchanan in the tent in 92 and 96. He gave a prime-time speech at the 92 convention, that didn't really help President Bush's reelection run he did well in the 96 primaries I guess he supported Bob Dole? I don't think Bob Dole won... And he left the party in 99 and a lot of people when I was one of them said goodbye good riddance you're not in the mainstream with Republican Party go run as a Reform Party candidate as independent candidate. He did in 2000 He didn't get many votes and actually George W. Bush I think was helped, the Republican Party was helped to be free of Buchanan's extreme isolationism protectionism anti-usual views and the like. Ron Paul's a little different from Pat Buchanan, but he is no better in my view and I actually think the Republican Party would be benefited in the long run but even in the short run. Even this 2012 election? Yes. Look how many Democrats and Independents are voting for Paul on these primaries. There it is! Do you think that would hurt President Obama? No, I don't know honestly... Yeah, yeah you do. But I just feel more comfortable as a Republican or as a Conservative saying, You know what our party

1:40:29 if i'm both do whatever he wants to support is obviously can have a lot of if you want to support whether the republican nominee as people free to support where they walk in my i don't think anyone should plead with him not to run or stay on the party and i would be comfortable is general election admit ronnie or rick santorum newt gingrich for standing as the republican in the reagan tradition and debating both barack obama and ron paul let's try again there you go okay now listen we've also mentioned that britain crystal represents They call themselves Republicans, but these are the neoconservative big government Republicans. Big spending Republicans they talk a good there liars because they talk a big game about conservative values But they're not conservatives they're all internationalists That's why he brings up that isolationist thing as though it's some sort of a bad thing The way describes even though Republicans were notoriously isolationist historically I mean even to Eisenhower to some extent they weren't all in

1:41:21 I mean, are they pro or against the United Nations? These guys are pro-United Nations. Big government. Big spending war war war! Why are they defining themselves as the Republicans and everybody else is not a Republican?! They call them RINOs in fact they've gotten to the point where essentially nixon was a rhino eisenhower was a rhino everybody seems to be republican in name only but these are the phonies that have taken over the republican party many of them extreme and if you look into the history of the neoconservatives If you look at their youth, they were all extreme left-wingers who were so radical in their ideas that they were essentially kicked out of the whole progressive side of the equation and they developed this neocon thing and they all became Republicans. They've taken over the party and claim it to be theirs! The nerve of this guy! I think it qualified... I just thought I'd wrap it up

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Ron Paul, NDAA Section 1021 Repeal

While the media focuses on SOPA, Ron Paul introduces legislation to repeal Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). This controversial section allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial. Paul warns that the law effectively turns the U.S. military into a domestic police force, a point the hosts feel is being ignored by the public.

ron paul· ndaa· indefinite detention· civil liberties· section 1021

1:42:22 Yeah, so meanwhile and this will show you what kind of a guy Ron Paul really is while everyone was Talking about SOPA and we're dark in my Twitter to me Photoshop my Twitter icon man. You got that soap artwork I'm gonna put that in there yeah Meanwhile They were voting on raising the debt limit by 1.2 trillion dollars, didn't we just do this six months ago? Yeah and it was a big deal how come there's no discussion about this? Stop SOPA man! You're anti-SOPA man if you don't talking about SOPA you can't talk about debt limit man you gotta talk about SOPA SOPA SOPA SOPA SOPA So Ron Paul gets on the floor and he says this

1:43:07 Mr. Speaker, I rise today to introduce a very simple piece of legislation to repeal the infamous Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act. Yes! Quietly signed into law by the President on New Year's Day What a way to usher in the new year Section 1021 essentially codifies into law the very dubious claim of presidential authority under 2001 authorization for the use of military force to indefinitely detain American citizens without access to legal representation or due process of law.

1:43:49 Section 1021 provides for the possibility of the US military acting as a kind of police force on U.S soil, apprehending terror... suspects, including Americans and whisking them off to an undisclosed location indefinitely. Thank you very much! Where's the outrage over that? Where is the Twitter icon that says stop NDAA?! You fools!! You stupid distracted idiot slave fools!!! You're gonna get black bagged and thrown into a van! Thank you Ron Paul. But you'll have defeated SOPA Yes it's true

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Keystone XL Pipeline, Obama Permit Denial

President Obama denies the permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline, claiming the 60-day review period mandated by Congress was insufficient. The hosts argue that Obama is ignoring a law he previously signed as part of the payroll tax cut deal. They characterize the move as a display of executive overreach.

keystone xl pipeline· barack obama· payroll tax cut· executive order· energy policy

1:44:31 This is bring your little icon with you and you know so he's introduced to that of course it goes nowhere Of course it goes nowhere because the republicans these fake Republicans and the Democrats who are supposed to be on The right side of this argument. They don't care either The whole thing is ridiculous these people in Congress are pathetic And then we've got remember how it was and we talked about this? This is like the Roman Senate when they finally gave up That's actually, this is completely Analogous to that in fact John some would call it a two Jonica's It too animus. Yes, it's and then remember they had the That bullcrap thing just before just around Christmas like You know we've got to continue the tax break 40 bucks a week And I was like yeah me and they cut a deal on

1:45:29 And I read the bill for you and said, hey there's something interesting in here. It forces the president to make a decision on the XL pipeline within 60 days right? That was the deal they made it deal its law President comes out presidential memorandum I have determined, based upon your recommendation including the State Department's view that 60 days is an insufficient period to obtain and assess the necessary information that the Keystone XL Pipeline Project as presented and analyzed at this time would not serve the national interest. So accordingly, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States including Section 301 of Title III United States Code and in furtherance of Executive Order 13337 of April 30th 2004 to the extent compatible with this memorandum I direct you to submit the report to Congress specified in Section 501B2 of the Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Constitutional Act 2011 and issue a denial of Keystone XL Pipeline Permit application.

1:46:30 So he just broke the law that he agreed to. Now I don't care one way or the other, and i don't really have an opinion on the XL pipeline... It's just- He's basically just- The thing I have an issue with is he signed the law, he knew what he was signing but he had no intent of upholding it so he's Kaiser Obama Yeah. That's bull crap, man! It's bogative. It's bogative. Alright so... Let me just change the subject to something a little more uplifting and lighter? Yes do we have real news sound or is it not real news? It's close. Hit it. Okay well that was because you asked And now back to real news He doesn't really understand this situation

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Pedestrian Safety, Headphone Distraction Study

A study highlights a rise in injuries and deaths among pedestrians wearing headphones, with many victims being hit by trains. The hosts mock the "sensory deprivation" framing of the report and lament the poor quality of local news broadcasts, which they find less informative than C-SPAN.

headphones· earbuds· pedestrian safety· distraction· local news

1:47:31 Wear earbuds and get killed. An uplifting clip. Well, it may be intuitive but there is new evidence tonight that wearing headphones while walking could be hazardous to your health very hazardous in fact researchers searching the data from 2004 through last year counted 116 deaths or injuries involving pedestrians wearing headphones or earbuds the average age of a victim 21 68% were male 55 percent were hit by trains 70 percent of the accidents ended in death Experts blame sensory deprivation and distraction. Wait a minute, I got my iPod on and like i'm just wandering across the tracks. Oh! I got killed by train because I didn't hear it coming What is that? What is this PBS what is this? It's local news which reminds me by the way where are your local news clips I've been hoping to hear once in awhile Our news here is so bad

1:48:33 It is so bad and they get most of the stuff is pre-packaged. So I get it, you know It's the same thing that airs everywhere But it is really...it's so freaking pathetic John. It's really...I'll get some for you just You know we did have a local news story about guy was filming the cops and then he got arrested but it's like You know, we know this stuff. I try to cherry pick great stuff We know were all screwed! We know you can't...you're a terrorist enemy combatant. We know all this stuff. And we gotta have some fun on the show C-SPAN is just that much more entertaining than the local news in Austin. I'm sorry It's no good. It's no good. Oh well that sucks Yeah well i'm sorry oh hey

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations, Retaining Employment Karma

The hosts read letters from various donors, including Jorgen Craig Jacobson and Christopher Mader. Mader requests "karma" for his partner, a retail manager who reported illegal gambling by her team only to have her own job threatened by HR. Other donations come from listeners in Amsterdam, Illinois, and Missouri, often accompanied by requests for "karma" or "douchebag" callouts.

karma· donations· amsterdam· pittsburgh· retail management· illegal gambling

1:49:19 So this is good news. I think there's time to take a play the jingle and Show my school by donating to know agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh, yeah And we did get some donations We finally got our spreadsheet in because and here's the joke of it is the PayPal sent me the wrong I mean, the one that i'm waiting for has still not come in so I requested a bigger file. They sent that one! I don't know what that means but then again I am being radiated Yeah well what it means is something's amiss And by the way we had there was a letter from someone who was complaining that we didn't announce their $69 donation

1:50:10 Yeah, remember that yeah. I went back and forth on it Can you dig it up because he's still not here some reason his donation just keeps getting bumped And I want to read from there And I don't like no man cuz I forward that stuff to buzzkill jr.. And he's okay Information deal we'll deal with it on Sunday. That's his job meanwhile We're gonna thank a few people Jorgen Craig Jacobson Jakobsen mm-hmm in Viram our friend is 42 today the 19th January, so he's gonna be on the birthday list. Add him I donate as a gift to myself. I look forward to get more good shows in the future Scott Tolstoy in Palantine Illinois $125 loved the best podcast universe and you some karma call out for job search and family health You've got karma our Amsterdam night sir Peter snakes. Hey pea sneaks

1:51:03 I had one two three to one which is a palindrome we've never thought about. $123 and 21 cents here's some Palindromainian money monetary karma for the best show notes in the universe oh thank you isn't that nice no agenda 273 was super fun to listen too and No Agenda 374 whooped ass Chad Biderman biterman in Round Lake Illinois 12121 Pronounced Biederman. I'm confirming my love to you in monetary form You're the best podcast in universe and of all of hyperspace Please give yourselves a dose of karma for the wonderful jobs you do day-in and day out I'm sure you guys could use it. You've got Karma, that's very kind Goes to his sick cat mr.. Fucker Okay little hint

1:51:56 Words matter if you keep calling your cat a mr. Fucker yeah, the cat may just go like you know I don't feel so good Yeah, well I guess it's fucker. Oh... I'm starting to recover but i could use any help to seal the deal so won't have to put him to sleep. You know cats die. Sorry you say that. That's horrible Sir Sean Connelly Naperville Illinois 100 bucks John and Adam donating on behalf of myself in 2112 looking for karma for Highlands Elementary and requesting a douchebag call out from Mark Mitrovich Douchebag! Really needs a karma for us. Absolutely you've got car. Thank you, sir Sean Sir Sean yes Victoria Thomas Cape Girard Missouri $100 happy birthday to contest the Roxanne she has listened to all the archives She wants you guys to know she is a propagating of the formula all over Tempe Arizona I gifted her my super karma coin which is

1:52:57 Amazing! And it barely bailed me out for not donating on her behalf in time for her birthday on January 16th. So add Contessa Roxanne, on her behalf of the birthday to 16 she remained graceful about the gifts I did send but parents I warn you if your kids listen donate and or be prepared for subtle admonishment That's good. Good word, what does that mean? That means the kids say, Malcolm you're not donating! Oh... You listen to the show and you never donate Yeah, you're a douchebag mom Adam, the poor, uh, Labor Day lawnmower you did just cracked her up The what?! What!? So please pay her for that What was the Labor day lawn mower

1:53:41 John, she says you remind her of me. I'll take that as a compliment and hope she's lucky enough to skip the Prince Charming and meet a decent knight one day apparently goes on with the little girl Kevin Thomas in Smyrna Georgia 99-99 I don't know what the lawnmower thing was. I don't know either man Evgeny Kovalev in New York City 6969 I demand myself an oral sex license Karma would also be helpful. Oralsexlicence.com, there's a new domain we gotta work on! You've got karma Yes this is a special donation It's the help getting you laid donation 69 Swazilnov swazilnov Matt Karixman I think Karezman probably Karezman? I can't say it's pronounced Kerexmen There you go John Sanity

1:54:36 Portland 56666 which is weird you've got a bunch of those, which is a palindrome. In the morning gentlemen I wait over a month since they first called out my first old college roommate Ryan Little for being in non donating douchebag and he still hasn't donated so please call him out again Ryan I will keep this up until he donates good I've been out propagating the formula and have turned my boss Sean Potts into a regular listener to speed up his conversion from boner to donor. Let's call him out as well! Yeah, that's real smart. Douchebag! Douchebag your boss? You're calling out your boss a douchebag? Great... Thanks again for the best podcast in universe. Andrea Garnier Dame Andrea to you in Rocky Mount Alberta Canada She says

1:55:25 Hey guys, I got a PR initiative. I need the No Agenda Army to help me with go to Macworld's Facebook page and vote for my picture on the get your geek on T-shirt contest! I'm the one wearing the no agenda t-shirt. Oh, that's good idea Thank you so much for helping him helping me hit them in the mouth you rock Hold on a second what is the what is the page? Mac world's Facebook page. Well, I gotta login Oh, this is why I don't use Facebook. Why do you have to log in? Because I block the cookies and everything get your geek on t-shirt contest Okay, she in there. Well. I'm trying to find it hold on this year's looking at a few more Gerald Keller and Brookstendale New York Thank You John thank you Adam and Dave what first time donor could

1:56:20 I like some car human you douching karma. I am Dave C. Dvorak You've been deep do you thought? Hey, Dave hey citizen hey Dave how you doing everybody a citizen my holland and making the errors somewhere How does this thing work? 6502 you're on the Facebook page. Yeah, I'm on the Facebook page and it says right there It has a really big sign it says Get your geek on contest Right and Macworld I world get your geek on t-shirt contest enter for a chance to win a $500 shopping spree at mac world iWorld You can't click on the on the on the picture of anything then there's t-shirt Contest you click on that, and what does it show? You it shows you The same thing. I don't understand iterates That's no good. I don't understand Facebook maybe maybe have to go to their wall or something

1:57:23 Jeez, I don't know. Michael Holland gave us 6502 which is an old processor chip donation is levation Hi John and Adam Mike Holland here the other producer and get gitmo nation stinky fromage 51st birthday on Friday the 20th so I thought I'd take the occasion to send some more cash in as for a karma shot yes Thank you so much that's very kind of you And he wants to see the Hot Pockets Euroland Invasion 2009 tour. Yeah, we'll do it right after the Civil War ends then we'll uh... And he's on the birthday list I hope. Ummm... Michel Hollande? Yes!

1:58:00 Christopher Mader in Manalapan, New Jersey which is a ritzy little community. In the morning... that's where Bill Ziff had 100 thousand foot house built. 100 thousand? 100 thousand square foot?! Something like that. No! It's got like he had a big mountain in the back and he didn't like where it was sitting so he had the entire mountain moved. They were having too much money In the morning citizens, I'm a monthly subscriber who is hoping to become a knight this year. However, I need to ask for some karma in order to accomplish this goal. The karma will be hopefully put towards not obtaining a new job but rather retaining one. Eight months ago my MILF slave was given a promotion to manage the busiest outlet store in her retail chain despite the longer hours we were excited at this prospect because of the last stepping stone on her 13-year career next step would be nice guy pay bump

1:58:48 and nice pay bump, and a corporate gig. Last year she discovered that her entire management team is involved with illegal gambling during business hours on the premises! Of course she reported it but now has been informed by the douchebags in Human Resources that her job may be on the line as well. You're out! As you can imagine this will make it difficult to pursue the American dream of just getting by so I could use a douchebag callout for the bastards who caused this Douchebag. If I can get her, uh... She needs a shot of karma if i can get their names I'll see you and get them on the win-lose or drone Or maybe take it to the next Italian bound cruise All right here's some karma for that what a story wow You've got Karma And by the way I found it I found Dame Andrea Now listen to this So Dame Andrea by the way smoking Very milfy she's got our no agenda white T shirt on Shes' got eight votes

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Dame Andrea, Macworld T-Shirt Contest

The hosts encourage the "No Agenda Army" to vote for Dame Andrea in a Macworld Facebook t-shirt contest. She is pictured wearing a No Agenda shirt but is currently trailing another contestant. The segment includes more donor thank-yous and a brief correction regarding the effective range of an AK-47 and the length of a football field.

macworld· facebook· t-shirt contest· no agenda gear· social media

1:59:43 And then there's this guy John Davis who is some douchebag who has got 131 votes. Oh man, it's going to be tough to catch up! I mean seriously? This guy is a total douchenuckle like you know... Why don't we get the people that go voter-up Yeah voter-up Okay, here's Christopher's Grace and Tuntin Bridge Kent. $60 I thought he said 69 well maybe i'm thinking of someone else I gotta get on the stick with this stuff. I got to put it in a book Dear John and Adam this is my we will take care of you on Sunday This is my first ever donation I've been listening to the show on and off for several years And finally persuaded by your donating his love argument Unfortunately, I am not drunk at the time of writing although I disagree with you on several areas

2:00:25 I do appreciate being exposed to alternative perspectives on current affairs and hearing you ask each other challenging questions. Why because? Yeah, that's a great question! Thursday night is my 26th birthday so please send me some karma also call out my brother Tom as a douchebag Oh man i can't believe that! Douchebag! And Christopher needs some karma Absolutely and he's on the birthday list as well You've got Karma Tom the douchebag has been listening much longer than me and has never donated. His 20th birthday is right next to mine on the 18th, William. Well we're not gonna congratulate him because he's a douche bag Yes of course Anthony Benson in Quakers Hill New South Wales 5520 Hi John it's Tony Benson from Quakers Hill New South Wales again! The earthquake machine capital of the world after the Japanese quack...quack? And the rather large mistake we made calculating the new Richter scale

2:01:19 Things have been rather quiet around here, but more importantly my wonderful wife Jane and I have a baby ready to pop out in a couple of weeks And I'd like request the karma call-out for her. Oh absolutely! A little new human resource karma You've got Karma She will need it during the extraction process and in the next first few weeks of no sleep, wet diapers and crying but we are both excited about meeting the latest addition to our family. What is he going to be doing? Apparently Tony is not doing the midnight feeding Sam Jackson, CL Washington. Double nickels on the dime I've had much more interesting message composed of you but my PayPal session timed out and i was lost But in a nutshell keep reading those bills Can I get a de-douche and some karma for a raise? Absolutely You've been de-douched! You got karma Wow Also double nickels on the dime from Sir Justin Seitz In Pittsburgh

2:02:15 I'd like to thank Adam for his deconstruction of the thicker who is system being proposed. I would like to suggest the following movie for Noragenda Film Library, A Noble Lie Oklahoma City 1995 from Freak Mind Films. That is outstanding! It shows how Holder was a part of the cover up Of that being an FBI false flag gone wrong. It's an outstanding documentary it suggests you but both of said the McVeigh was a patsy in the government and the government operative I like to also request karma for Ron Paul And everyone who in the words of David Icke is exposing the dreamland we believe Israel Yeah, right on. You've got karma Absolutely

2:03:00 He's a knight so he can say whatever he wants. Kent O'Rourke, Frostburg Maryland double nickels on the dime want to get some karma for Ron Paul again give him another one absolutely love doing that you've got karma Tyler Smith in Calgary Alberta $50 and 1 cent bring back cranky geeks that won't happen Greg Tippett Point Lonsdottir Victoria 50 dollars. Von Klitschka in Salem, Oregon, $50 designed a poster inspired by your show you asked me what it is good question it's based on One Nation Under Drone and we've got a little link there you can check out the poster and I'll continue George Scanlon fifty dollars Joshua Polson Ridgefield Washington fifty dollars he's our last donor Schergel

2:03:46 on the chat room to the best podcast in the universe. You guys give bones deserved grief over stupid plot lines and then turn around and make all sorts of inaccurate comments, that's us! Yeah there you go. Here are a couple corrections. A football field is 300 feet not 300 yards Yes, this is true. Yes that was you know I was me I said I was thinking You know 300 victory this it's a hundred yards it's a football field now. I'm not gonna believe this next one This is bullcrap effective range of an ak-47 is 500 yards. I'm calling bull crap on that I've shot AK 47s and Highly inaccurate no he didn't say it was accurate but he says effect Oh effective range I'm sorry effective range

2:04:33 500 yards. Yeah, did we say different? When were you talking about that? Who in the hell knows? Yes a rocking boat is not good conditions all bullets fall to the ground as they are affected by gravity arc downward okay but you aim higher darn it! You can hit targets at 100 yards with a pistol and you can figure out where to aim The Coast Guard US installations are all around the world So what so what do you trying to say Joshua that we're idiots We know What a bummer. I'm a football fan, I know how many yards he's got. Well you messed that one up. We're talking this show is not rehearsed this isn't scripted if you want your scripted show go to CNN or listen to Michelle Obama trying to read a line come on

2:05:20 Yeah, that's so funny. It's like you know we make lots of assertions and people are like You're wrong man! Of course we're wrong We were wrong all the time And you point it out and say yeah there ya go we were wrong Now we usually correct most of our errors on the show because of the chat room which is carefully monitored Oh yeah no we can't get away with nothing But uh Dear Adam and John Karma works after my donation to your fantastic show on Thursday I made a trip up north to Redwood City, California To see my girlfriend Lindsay on the way up right in between Fort Hunter Liggett and Greenfield. I was pulled over by a highway patrol for speeding this was on Highway 101 and

2:05:56 and was after the stretch of 101 that is a 70 miles per hour speed limit. So, the limit was 65 I was doing 85 so i didn't try to deny my speed to the officer but just took responsibility for my actions and the kind man let me off with a warning! Huh. PS John needs to know how to read the difference between scrapped and scraped. Another thing you've done wrong! You're ruining the show, everybody. Giving is loving. Giveloving.com Let it finish I want to mention a letter from Kevin Thomas that begins Dear Crack Whore and Buzz Duck Bill

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Frank of the Roundtable

The hosts conduct a formal knighthood ceremony for Frank Rowe, known as Gitmo Slave, for his long-term contributions to the show's infrastructure. He is named the first "12-12-12 Knight." The hosts also remind listeners to send donations and show notes well in advance of the live broadcasts to ensure they are processed correctly.

knighthood· gitmo slave· 12-12-12· roundtable· donation logistics

2:07:07 I don't have this in the morning. I've been a faithful listener for a year and I decided I needed to get off my boner and be a donor, and therefore sent 9999 to start my way tonight who'd please give sense of karma My way to rid me of the ass jackals deal with on the daily basis Wow here's some anti-ass Jackal Karma coming your way You've got karma my goodness ass jackals. I hate that oh So, anyway. Okay! I think that'll have to wrap it for today we have some make goods on Sunday We did uh...have some problems with the spreadsheet today and i want to remind people if they can get their donations in by midnight of the night before we do this show because all we had been pushing and doing in the morning but uh... I may uh... Yeah also please don't send me something on sunday or thursday morning like a whole pdf and say YOU'LL LOVE THIS IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE SHOW

2:08:02 Have you know that you're supposed to send that at other times? Don't expect it to be on that show I mean doesn't get all kinds of stuff people said in the morning out like this is when I'm All the work is done. The morning of is one, you know We're collecting were organizing take a look at the show notes 375 dot any show notes calm You'll see what kind of work goes into it and don't forget the clips and stuff portion where everything that you heard on the show was also Uploaded and available for download all part of the service here that we provide to you and it is only provided to you by your kind donations and love. Go to Dvorak dot org slash NA. And we have some alternative destinations. Oh yes! I was thinking am i going on vacation? What destinations, let me think...

2:08:57 Was I going somewhere? It's possible. Maybe was I going to Austin, Los Angeles? Yes! Dvorak.org is the primary place that helped us in this effort Also channeldvorak.com slash NA noagendanation dot com and Noagendashow dot com there's a donate button on both those sites And they're in different parts of the universe so if dvorak.org is blocked you can find one of these other sites and click on their Hopefully they have their own page so it doesn't go back to Dvorak.org slash NA And remember that donating is loving, that's what its all about We're giving you love twice a week 5 hours a week 20 hours a month of pure unadulterated moist love A much better deal Giving? Yes! A much better deal than the movies or the sporting event I mean this game coming up on Sunday with 49ers It costs you $500,000 dollars to get a ticket

2:09:54 Oh really? What a bargain! Alright, let me end it up here. Giving is loving. Giving-loving It's your birthday, birthday! Where is it your birthday? I don't know her gender. Happy Birthday to Charlie Gill, Contessa Roxanne We have Juergen Krog-Jokobsen who congratulates himself he turns 42 today Michael Holland turns 51 tomorrow and Christopher Scrace congratulates himself, he will turn 26 tomorrow and congratulates his brother Tom who turned 28 yesterday. Happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show! And then of course we sent out the memo for the palindrome donations and there's a number of them that you can participate in if you go to devorak.org slash n-a

2:10:55 And of course a lot of people want to get on the 12-12-12 night donation which, of course will be announced on 12-12-12 and you can double credits for it on the date that you achieve such a prestigious knighthood as well as on the special 12-12-12 edition of The No Agenda Show. Our very first one is none other than... Well actually let's draw the swords here first. Cross swords with me Johnny! Here it comes. I don't think he got the reference Frank Rowe aka Gitmo Slave, step forward and kneel son! You'll be wearing a nice ring. And it's courtesy of all the people who appreciate all the work that you've done for the NOA Agenda program, The best podcast in the universe. and therefore! You are the very first 12-12-12 night I hereby pronounce the Sir Frank Night Of The NOA Agenda Roundtable Oh boy Don't tell your wife but i got hookers and blow over here Red boys and chardonnay Hot pants and booze just for YOU my friend

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Space Wars, International Code of Conduct

Hillary Clinton announces that the U.S. will join the EU in developing an International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities. The move follows the crash of the Russian Phobos-Grunt probe, which Russia blamed on U.S. radar interference. WikiLeaks cables suggest a long-standing "war of words" between the U.S. and China over anti-satellite weapons, which the hosts cite as proof of ongoing "space wars."

hillary clinton· space debris· china· wikileaks· satellites· kevin rudd

2:11:53 Good job, and thank you everybody for doing that for Gitmo slave. You can always fight He's always around he's always always always doing something for the show Yeah, no get most slaves a good guy very good guy now is a night all right Hey hey hey Space Wars space wars it's now official now It's official in the same not just the same week but the same day When... It's starting to sound a little like Clinton if you can get that breaking thing going. In the same, I can't do it now. Whoa! What was that? Never mind go on The very same day, the very same day Forget it forget it So Phobos grunt we've been corrected by our Russian producers Grunt

2:12:43 So this thing crashed and of course the Russians are saying, hey man it was a US radar from the Marshall Islands whose megawatt impulse triggered the malfunction. You guys you sunk my battleship! You sunk my Phobos grunt! So what happens immediately Hillary clippity-clop Clinton comes out and says the following Unfortunately, she only wrote it. She didn't say it because would have been funny or she said it but the long-term sustainability of our space environment is at serious risk from space debris and Irresponsible actors is George Clooney in space now I mean Is it really has gotten to that point inch so irresponsible actors? Well how many people are up there ensuring the stability safety and security of our space systems is a vital interest to the United States and the global community

2:13:32 So, unless the international community addresses these challenges... ...the environment around our planet will become increasingly hazardous to human spaceflight and satellite systems. Really? In response to these challenges the United States has decided to join with the European Union and other nations to develop an International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities You know, I can't wait to read this legal document. That's going to be hilarious because i've been saying for years there are space wars going on! There are people shooting stuff out of the sky and here clippity-clop Lucifer Clinton admits it irresponsible actors when they say actors John of course they actually mean actors yeah that's exactly what they mean and they're irresponsible apparently Nicolas Cage man stop blowing stuff out of the sky

2:14:22 But when they say that, don't they mean actors is like terrorists right? In their language. They mean countries! Well yeah of course and Australia jumps on board immediately it's on the same day. Australia has announced it is backing a European Union push for the new international code of conduct for behavior in space what would be in this do you think Hey man, it's gonna be ludicrous. You can't cross the double line. And there is still slipping some stuff about food safety. Watch. Exactly! Hey man you can't cross the double line in space motherfucker say I don't want to see you doing that foreign minister Kevin Rudd made the announcement yesterday on the same day the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared humankind's involvement in space was at risk from irresponsible actors

2:15:12 While neither Australia nor the US named these actors, secret US diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks reveal a half-decade war of words between Beijing and Washington over what the U.S. describes as China's anti-satellite weapons testing program Come on man! Give me some props for calling it space war It's true! Hey citizen Don't turn left on a green light in space Hey citizen, please go through the scanner before you go to Mars. Hey citizen... There'll be no double parking on the moon! I can't wait to see this legislation Yeah yeah The International Code of Conduct for Behavior in Space What else? Like you can't slurp your soup maybe? I don't know it's not gonna be- It's gonna be there's gonna be something stupid in there but they're going to be slipping something in You know I'll be right the minute it comes out you know I'll be stop everything I'm doing

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Bonaire Vacation, Value-Added Tax Outsourcing

One host prepares for a vacation to Bonaire in the Netherlands Antilles. Amidst the travel plans, a producer from Zurich reports that PricewaterhouseCoopers has been contracted by the U.S. government to design a Value-Added Tax (VAT) system for the United States. The hosts view this as a sign that a new national tax is being prepared for a "smooth transition."

bonaire· netherlands antilles· vat· pricewaterhousecoopers· taxation

2:16:13 By the way, tomorrow Ms. Mickey and I are leaving for Bone Air for one week this is in the Netherlands Antilles it actually is... Didn't you go to Bone Air once before? Yes we did and so we've been invited by my first boss actually Lex Lex Luthor That's right! We have to discuss the international behavior laws in space that's right Lex Luthor That's right. Now, enough said the show will of course continue as regularly scheduled we will just continue it um it of course might be rather interesting you know how it goes It was pretty mediocre reception no actually now I think about it was actually better than what both expected so should be better this year than it was before So it should be actually quite good Well were hoping so uh because we actually haven't

2:17:11 Had like any vacation time, you know it's a Hot Pockets tour. We went straight through and then we moved and so we need to like just be able to in between the show And I'll just be sitting on the beach Watching Z-Span on my laptop But uh...We'll have a show as regularly scheduled because that's what we do even during holidays and vacations The show continues That is our version of our love to you So i just want everyone to know that I'm a man when we're getting towards the end here. I have one last thing But I want to make sure I leave it open Oh wait, this is very important actually Tricky Nikki from Zurich one of our producers Did you catch this note? No, he's in Zurich Maybe I did read it He's in Zurich tricky Nikki a very good friend of mine who works for PricewaterhouseCoopers and Zurich and his on assignment in their London office

2:18:12 has been assigned constructing a value-added tax for the US. They are contracted by the United States government as depressing as this is I thought best to pass it on to you and the listeners, I'm guessing you'll start to dig around for VAT in the U.S., so listen for your feedback on the show This is the kind of listeners we have Yeah, and it's just to provide us with more detailed depressing information is essentially what we get. But that I mean that to me is huge news! That's breaking news Yeah, so obviously it's gone far enough that they needed to do what they did. They wanted to outsource it we can't even insource our own value-added tax So they ship it overseas so they can set up a system and when they roll it out It's a smooth transition audit boom next day you're being charged extra money for buying You know a pizza and pizzas by the way are not cheap as it is

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Mitt Romney, 2008 Opposition Research Dossier

A leaked 200-page opposition research document on Mitt Romney, originally prepared by the McCain campaign in 2008, surfaces online. The dossier includes Romney's past quotes, business records, and details about his Mormon mission in France. The hosts discuss the nature of political "dossiers" and how they are used to smear competitors during primary seasons.

mitt romney· john mccain· opposition research· dossier· mormon mission

2:19:12 No, they're not. Alright do you have anything left? Because I got one last thing... Well i just want to talk a little bit about this that I think we have it should be in the show notes the opposition file on Romney What do you maybe what are you referring to? Okay. Well, there's this there's a guy out there who found the Found John McCain's net 2008 document on its 200 pages of Because you got it I thought he had a copy of it. Sorry list we didn't pay attention obviously miss something oh Yeah, you sent me yeah It was huge

2:19:49 It's very huge, but if you go... I just wanted to say and we'll have a link to it. It is a PDF file that somebody put on the internet in fact there is a link we can just put the link Yeah, I will put it on right now. To carry the file But at the end of it is quite funny because all these quotes from Romney According to Chris Matthews, doesn't write his own jokes and in fact you might want to play the Chris Matthews clip where he bust Romney for a one-liner and then he names the writer. Responsibilities are taking credit for helping create jobs like Al Gore taking credit for the Internet You know, that's another Stu Spencer line to the internet. They don't come from around there. What do you think Mark? Do you think he cooks up those Lucille Ball lines and Kardashian lines himself? I don't think so! Let me ask you about this thing here... That's good. Well luckily Chris Matthews is the epitome of humor Yeah well he thinks he's... He was the next speech writer So he knows all the speech writers And they know this guy Steve Spencer who i guess is a funny guy But anyway, I don't how long he has been using the guy but they've got

2:20:52 This is a big-ass file, John. It'll be in the clips and stuff in the show notes 375.endofshownotes.com But you've got to read some of these quotes at the end Let me see if I can find just a couple that give it a little tease here Get to the end. There it is. Romney's quote, I'm wary of anyone who parlays background money and hair to political success which would be him. Romney quotes, I thought becoming rich and famous would make me happy? Boy was I right! Really that's a good line. That's a great one. He says, quote, I haven't urged my children to enlist in the military

2:21:42 He says, there's no actual quote but he says Romney says he bet with Pataki on the American League Championship Series. The winner gets Connecticut! Hey that's not possible man because we've got producers who already own Connecticut you can't just take that. There is some other stuff he says Romney mocks Kerry saying he threw his Yamaha into the ring Wow Anyway, it goes on and on. There's like a million of these things this thing is just a 200 page document A dossier! This is actual dossier that you don't get to see too many of these That are always prepared by the campaigns Each campaign will do these for their competitors Explain that a little bit because I think we kind of got lost in translation Everybody running for political office at the primary level they have a huge staff

2:22:30 that goes out and they work up a paper on the competition, each competitor. And it's essentially a dossier... It is 200 page dossier on the guy everything he said that's public knowledge everything he has done when he was governor where he was born, where his houses are what their worth I guess something you'd find in the CIA file. And it's just fascinating and this was leaked out because these things are rare to ever run into, there is apparently some guy who collects them This was leaked out for obvious reasons as part of some campaign to smear

2:23:07 Which I think Romney smears himself with some of the things he says like defending the NDAA military takeover of the government. Yeah, let's go kill Iranians... Oh yeah, they wanted to say that! Go ahead, let's kill Iranian people. Let's just kill Iranians. Kill them! That and the Iranian thing. The guys are terrible. Sand bunnies, kill them, Iranians get rid of them, kill em'. And this actually is the 2008 material that was dug up by McCain and uh... it's a very interesting document well worth does anyone spending some time with the israeli roller in some places it starts with his biography goes to social issues has economic perspective on things foreign policy domestic policy business record they talk about you know he's never really

2:23:47 his foreign policy sucks. He's never been out of the country, although he was on a mission when he was a Mormon and his mission was in France so you can imagine the bicycling going on out there and that's how I learned French i guess and then you started off at Stanford University for a year went on this mission for three years came back got his degree from Brigham Young and it just everything everything everyone to know about the guys in here is actually kind of amazing So what will be cool about my trip to Bonaire? Lex has a new girlfriend. Lex Luthor? Lex Luthor has a new girlfriend and she's Iranian, and I'm very excited First of all... You can debrief her before he does! First of all she is hot Most Persian people are just beautiful I have to say they're stunning Except for that douchebagget Valerie Jarrett

2:24:44 Yeah, and then he was in Iran for a month couple weeks ago with her. And so she's oh he really got the inside Inside look around yeah, so you know I'll get some real boots on the ground feedback on I hope they don't hate us I hope they just see it's bunch of elitist pricks cuz you know can imagine If you're like Dutch and you just see some idiot with pasted on hair saying we need to go kill these people or German, it's kind of frightening. To me Well I don't think they'd get much in the news Oh I think your wrong my friend, I think your very wrong We'll see when you get back No no well do it on there Actually no it will be on there real time You gonna tell us next Sunday? Sunday yes, debriefing will be complete by Sunday for sure Ok well look forward to that

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

NYPD Terahertz Imaging, DNA Damage Concerns

The NYPD is developing terahertz imaging technology to detect concealed weapons from a distance of up to 80 feet. While the department claims it is safe, the hosts cite an MIT Technology Review article suggesting terahertz waves can "tear apart DNA." They argue the technology represents a significant violation of the Fourth Amendment and potential health risk.

nypd· terahertz waves· gun detection· fourth amendment· dna· mit

2:25:41 Alright, the final thing I have which is... It's time for them to scramble the broadcast. Actually have two final things one is something taking place in New York City it's called a terahertz imaging detector NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Brown on what it does? It capable of outlining if someone carrying a gun underneath their clothing without x-rays How does it work? measuring what is given off naturally in the environment from a person. And if a gun is blocking those admissions, it traces it." Yeah that's real natural. Terahertz waves so they have a gun... Oh actually it continues on a screen. So far he says it's effective at three to five meters the department wants it to work from 25 meters out or 80 feet. Hey citizen let me just scan you

2:26:37 Hey citizen, let me scan you from 25 feet. Terahertz waves? Really John?" Yeah terahertz waves are interesting if somebody is a one of our younger listeners wants to get in uh once again certain kinds of physics or get involved with this anyone who really gets a terahertz uh who gets their act together with terahertz radiation will have a job for life. It's very interesting, it's essentially I think it begins like 300 gigahertz which is extremely high frequency and then moves just beneath where light begins which is the infrared so its at range from 300 gigahertz to infrared and then light comes after that you can see with our eyeballs but we can't see these waves these terahertz waves although we think some animals might be able to see it

2:27:29 So are they a danger to humanes? Nobody knows for sure. Oh, OK. Well of course it completely blows the Fourth Amendment because you're just being scanned everywhere. Yeah. That's... So it's between microwave and visible light, it's just terahertz area. If I wasn't sterile after that tissue box... It does have the ability to radiate your balls We don't know. I mean, there's a very interesting technology but it could be blowing out your eyeballs for all you know it could be giving people cataracts You don't know what this does It's so high the frequency is so high but it's almost impossible In fact that anyone maybe they can get some terahertz sensors But to deliver terahertz

2:28:19 It's not, it's I don't know. It's...I've been reading about it on and off for a number of years because they know if the company comes up with a really good way to produce these waves and also identify them measure them as it were They would just big money Big Money! Interesting the chat room just handed me a link from technology review published by MIT title of the document how terahertz waves tear apart DNA Yeah, this is also sometimes I think when people refer to the millimeter wave they're talking about terror. Hey citizen let me just tear apart your DNA! It's...I've heard this. Gitmo Nation Lowlands the police now have portable fingerprint scanners and 125 officers have now been outfitted with these so we can check you on the spot

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

LeRoy 12, Gardasil and Mass Hysteria Claims

The hosts deconstruct a CNN report by Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper regarding twelve girls in LeRoy, New York, who developed Tourette-like tics. While many suspect the Gardasil HPV vaccine, CNN frames the incident as "mass hysteria" or "mass psychosis." The hosts argue the segment is a "paid-for debunking commercial" designed to protect the pharmaceutical industry from liability and falling sales.

gardasil· leroy 12· sanjay gupta· anderson cooper· mass hysteria· hpv vaccine

2:29:14 They're connected to their blackberries. Leave, people! Leave! You must get out before it's too late!" All right that wasn't my final thing the final thing I wanted to talk about there's a huge PR push going on right now and we already saw this coming on Sunday This is the LeRoy 12 The twelve girls in upstate New York near Buffalo Oh what? The shakes Who have Tourette-like syndrome And it's only girls, it's 12 of them. And I immediately said this has got to be Gardasil. It is like the HPV vaccine which by the way jacked up with adjuvants all kinds of nastiness and we've seen all kinds of horrible things happen, girls dying... Anderson Pooper has been drafted to dispel the myth

2:30:10 And we're going to deconstruct this report. So first they did a whole report and they showed these poor girls, they're twitching... They're like me actually! Which leads me to believe that because my Tourette's didn't start until I was six or seven if i could only find my immunization uh my vaccination sheet which I'm sure exists somewhere I'll bet you that this started after I got immunized for something Because I'm sure the adjuvants were all the rage back in 1970 or whatever it was. You think that's possible maybe? Yeah, it is possible. Adjuvants are... we beat this to death about two years ago on some of our shows aren't necessarily a good thing So of course if you search on the internet If you do Leroy 12 It's like boom everyone's Gardasil Gardasil Gardasil

2:31:07 So they bring on Sanjay, so they do this report and it's so sad to see these girls. I mean it's messed up. And like yeah, I've lived with this for 47 you know 40 years and I know what its like It sucks! And I don't have it as severe as they do and I have some of it under control but...it's not fun If your kid because now no one gives a crap I don't have to pick up any chicks You know? I'm done. I'm set. Now they have to Go out and dispel the Gardasil myth. So you'll find everywhere that this has been deemed mass hysteria Yeah, I love that so Remember this is their mass hysteria now remember that they wouldn't tell anyone What it was that it was a federal issue and at the dock which of course is so outrageous That the doctors won't tell their patients what's wrong with them

2:32:05 So they had to scramble. But now that the meme is out there about Gardasil, they have to go and combat it. They have to fight it so as we say if you can't cover it up turn it up. So what they're doing is their now everyone has been given the news and we're going to deconstruct this clip because Sanjay Gupta Dr. Sanjay Gupta Professor Dr. Sanjay Gupta for CNN The biggest shill for the pharmaceutical industry ever And Anderson Pooper who will do anything For money are now trained to tell you it is not Gardasil and the report blew me away. We will have to stop it several times to discuss.

2:32:51 Well, they're looking for commonalities between all these girls. We know they go to the same school but they are in different grades and not necessarily friends with each other They don't participate in the same activities so those commonalities really weren't there as a starting point Then they start looking at things that the girls may have been exposed to air quality for example some sort of environmental exposure And again, they brought people in who were independent to the school to test. They didn't find anything that could cause these sorts of symptoms." Okay so right there they brought people in who are independent to test no interview with these people we don't know who they are and there's no name at the agency... They're just lying! They're just saying stuff

2:33:36 Then they also look at things like medicines, including vaccines. The Gardasil vaccine... Oh boy! No mention of Cervarax? No mention of the flu vaccine? No mention of whooping cough vaccine?! Only Gardasil! And again, that wasn't a causative factor. It wasn't the causative factor? Causative factor I think... Causative also an interesting word Why? So you know they start to tick off the list and in the end Oh he just glossed right over it The answer may be sort of not knowable for sure They just don't have a definitive answer ever How do they know that the Gardasil vaccine is not at the root of this Very interesting why are we bringing up again why are we not talking about all the other vaccines

2:34:18 Only Gardasil. How come we know it's not Gardasil? Because this is a message to you viewers, you dumb sheep This is the message It's not Gardasil Not that it matters because all United States Pharmaceutical companies are immune from being sued by law But it would kill sales wouldn't it Well simply because not all the girls got the Gardasil vaccine Oh really Unfortunately there's no evidence of that He's just saying it There's no reporting There's no reports anywhere. All I see that i read online is yeah, she had Gardasil, Gardasil, Gardasil. This was a prominent theory A lot of people saying look... Ah, prominent theory, aha! Gardasil could have caused side effects like this and this is something they explored but simply Anderson there are girls who have these symptoms who did not get the vaccine. They explored it, they explored it but they simply did not release any information But Gardasil It's not whatever..it's not Gardasil

2:35:17 We didn't test any other vaccines, but it's not Gardasil. There have also been reports that the girls are being treated for stress and health officials told us their symptoms are getting better Can stress though cause these kind of symptoms? Ah okay! Now we're getting to the meat of it There is a specific sort of pattern of diagnosis in this situation They look to see does someone exhibit the specific symptoms tick-like symptoms in this case. Did these symptoms perhaps, were they preceded by stress? If you take away the stress do the symptoms seem to get better but mainly I'll tell you Anderson in medicine we call it a diagnosis of exclusion meaning that after you've ruled out everything else your sort of left with this is the probable answer. Okay so what is the probable answer Dr Sanjay Gupta miracle man of medicine! I have also seen this being referred as mass hysteria

2:36:07 Is it possible they're faking it or is this some sort of... I mean, what does that mean? Mass hysteria. Mass hysteria! You know when they talk about mass hysteria It's a more lay term People refer to it as mass psychosis What I will tell you though and this is important This is very important John, pay attention This is important information you are now being programmed with Listen to Zanjay Gupta on the medical miracle There are very good ways to determine if someone is faking something That's going to be the conclusion A lot of people jump to when they watch this There's there was good ways to figure out someone's faking it in this case. They say they are not faking it I mean the girls really experience this and we're getting to the point now Anderson I find this fascinating that in the brain you could see some changes as a result of this that you can measure We're not okay, so we can now measure your brain to show that you have mass hysteria

2:36:56 This is the most disgusting thing. That is bullcrap! I mean, it's like they have a super lie detector and things change in your brain and this is exciting this is important information And we can now measure this and we know that you're whether you're lying or not but you have mass hysteria They don't do this uh...you know widespread yet but this is something that's coming down the pike It's new technology. How severe are the symptoms? Do we know, I mean when i think of Tourette's I think of stuff from movies and people yelling obscenities or having tics. Well no you know these types of tics they can be quite significant in some of the girls have talked about it quite openly and uh...

2:37:33 It's shocking, I think a little bit at least startling to watch them. But observing and hearing about these girls you see sort of wide range so some have much more severe symptoms than the other where they're literally having uncontrollable body movements and involuntary...they utter involuntary words But others have much more mild symptoms and I wonder as well Anderson if there's people at the very low end of the spectrum in the school, if you really started to examine all the girls. If girls have really mild symptoms that they haven't told anyone about so it could be a little bit further ranging than just this dozen or so girls. Bullshit! So couple things going on

2:38:13 So I am convinced now more than ever because this is a paid for debunking commercial and the Gupta is stuttering through the whole thing because he knows he has to lie. Yes, he is stammering way more than you have. Oh yeah. And all this new technology we can prove that something in their brain... Very interesting no boys have this which of course is what immediately leads everyone to think about and we did just don't have the reporting We don't know if was mandatory at lots of schools as mandatory now they get this vaccine But someone pointed out to me one of our producers said the whole reason that they're probably now talking about vaccinating boys is To get rid of these stories because if there were like two boys in there

2:39:02 then they would have been like, oh no no it's not Gardasil because it's nice. Not just girls so maybe they're doing that now and we're going to see many reports of mass hysteria by the way turns out there's gonna be a lot more kids who are gonna... It's not just the Leroy 12 will be more but it'll all be like we can measure this in the brain So I hook you up to our magic brain measuring device You don't have a Gardasil problem Because we investigated vaccines and Gardasill! Gardasil! Gardasil is good! Blow me pooper and Gupta. This is a huge scandal, excuse me. I don't see Curry's pet peeve of the day. All right glad you got that out of your system It's not over it is now how long have I been talking about Gardasil? How long John four years at least

2:39:59 You're the one-man Gardasil... Socks guy. They're gonna hook me up to a machine, and they're gonna say... You don't like Gardasil huh? Give him more! We can see it in his brain he's got mass hysteria He's got conspiracy theory syndrome Now we would have to remove him from society Hey citizen I'm sorry you have to go come with us Mr.. Curry all right everybody stick that in your pipe and smoke it A two pet peeve show John a double shot. Yeah, double a double shot all right so What do we learn today Adam? We're screwed Okay, yeah as usual that's about it So yeah, so be fun will do the show from bone air we have listeners in boner I bet you do they'll do little meet up and bone air. Yeah, he should at the bar oh

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Show Outro, Bonaire Schedule Confirmation

The hosts conclude episode 375, confirming that the show will continue on its regular schedule despite the upcoming trip to Bonaire. They provide a final reminder of the show's donation website and sign off from their respective locations in Austin and Northern Silicon Valley.

bonaire· austin· silicon valley· podcast outro· schedule

2:41:04 And I might have some exciting news during our trip, but can't talk to you about that right now. Exciting news... Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in Austin Texas the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley by the way we expect a big rainstorm for anybody around. I'm John C. Dvorak We will talk to you again on Sunday right here on NOAgenda Great question. That's not a great question! Giving is loving, so give your love at givingloving.com