Drone Journalism

00:00 Eh, just call Jenny. Adam Curry. John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, December 4th, 2011, time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 362. This is no agenda. Suspense! We are not, I repeat, not being distracted by Sperm and Herman. So I do only have one clip about Sperm and Herman.

00:41 How come no one has used that but us? I don't understand. It's such a good one. It is a good one. And it is, I've got this clip I cracked up when I heard it. Tell me if you can spot the gaffe. In this clip. I mean the things not all just many I mean I could have listened and it would have been many or I may have been the distraction of the week on the woods agenda

01:45 I beg to differ. I don't think it's much of a distraction. It's a total distraction. Let me see. Who cares? Nobody's paying any attention. What was going on? Let me think. Oh yeah, the military can lock you up for being a grumpy old man. Do you think that is anything important to look at? That's a distraction of the week. Oh my goodness. You know, I will say though, here in Austin, it's the talk of the town. What is? S1867. Oh, yeah. Everyone's talking about it. It's really interesting. We had dinner at the neighbors last night. We were invited over to meet some of the neighborhood. You had dinners, the neighbors over to the house? No, no, the neighbors had us over to their house. Oh, okay. They did exactly what never happened in Los Angeles. They knocked on the door the other day. Hi, we're Maggie and Bruce. We're the neighbors.

02:42 Hey, how you doing? That was really nice. You know, I said, Oh, come on over. We'll invite some of the other neighbors over and they cook for us. And, uh, yeah, it was great. Now, but of course now I'm really conscious because they're listening over there. And now you have to invite them over. Of course. Well, we have to have a house warming party. That's what it's called. I know, I know we got to do that. And that's when you do, they'll all come over. You'll get, I don't know how many for, you know, like six, eight, 10 people. They'll all come over one of them of course will be work working for an agency and there'll be a bug planted in the house of course as one would sweep the house afterwards just to make sure. But you better be somebody knows what he's doing nowadays it's just you know there's this really ominous looking building not far from us which is the 3M headquarters in Austin and they've got this huge

03:31 antenna on the roof like a ham radio like you know massive dish or a stick no no I didn't know directional what do you call it no not a dish not a dish no no an old-school pylon mast with you know one of those the huge antenna that has the dipole sticking out so heavy that they're bending down it's probably just as they probably just sold that space to but It's just cellular carriers. You sure they're not sell no no no no no they make you know what they make their RFID tracking equipment oh It says it right there on the website. I'm like and in the whole place is like no trespassing 3m campus only You know cameras everywhere. Yeah, that is a total spook facility get it get it tour. Yeah

04:19 Hey, hi, hi, I'm Adam Clark. I'd like a tour of your facility to see just to check stuff out, see what's going on. Yeah, yeah, that'll go over well. Anyway, so now I'm real self conscious because they're listening. You know, we went over and we're drinking some wine there while Maggie's cooking. I can't even say anything about her now, you know, because I know this is... Never introduce yourself to the show to the neighbors. Smoking hot. These guys are like nuts. You know what she said? What do they think they're doing? You know what she really liked? What she really liked? She said, I really had to laugh about you just getting by. We did that whole thing with the McLaughlin group when we were talking about the American dream.

05:06 Yeah, yeah, they're just getting by. Yeah, she even asked their kids like, kids what is the American dream? You know, just to see if they, just to check them, right? See if they're okay. They're doing all right here. Anyway. And what was the results? It was good, you know, like freedom, uh, it was like, you know, they're 12 and 14, so freedom was one, uh, you know, family was part of the American dream. That was nice. You know, at no point did any of them say, I just want to get by. Yeah, well that mean probably we'll never really penetrate Texas. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Well, I am of course Nostradamus.

05:46 Yeah, no sooner had I predicted that we needed to move to Texas to scale back expenses than donations drop off a cliff. I knew it. We essentially have no, this is the second time in the history of the show. No executive producers. We have no executive producers. We have to credit ourselves. So all the people could have snuck in with a cheap executive producer. Or show three six two which actually is a really nice number three six two you know it's all kind of divisible and Nothing, so weird good job John on the show I suppose the last show must have really sucked This is this is what John does and they'll send me an email say donations are off the cliff. We're dead We must have really sucked or been boring or whatever and and I have a theory actually I have a theory and

06:35 I think that the minute we started talking about food and wine again, it's what everyone always wants, right? They're always like, oh, I miss the food and wine talk. And then we bring that back and we talk about it a little bit since Thanksgiving. Well, the problem is, the problem with that theory is the show before is when we really talked about food and wine. No, we talked about... No, no, no, that's the... And we've been talking about single malt scotch and all that. Yeah, this is bad. So here's what I'd like to do. I'd like to do it again and if donations are down again next week then we'll never talk about food and wine again. There's nothing about food and wine to talk about this well yeah there is I do I have something to talk about. Okay go. So we went to Siena Ristorante. You haven't been to Bee Cave yet though. I've been down to Bee Cave sure I have but there's a lot of restaurants there.

07:31 No, this is the B cave barbecue. No, no, no, no, no, haven't been haven't been there yet. But we went to a Sienna Ristorante, which is apparently and we thought it was an outstanding Italian restaurant. And the prices here is just so great. Everything's so inexpensive. It's certainly comparatively speaking, according to Wine Spectator, one of the top 10 wine lists in the country. Did you know that? Yeah. Yeah. Do you not put a lot of value on Wine Spectator? I like the Wine Spectator, but they're easily bamboozled. And I'll give an example. This would be my story.

08:12 I'm in Athens at some event and I was this the stone throwing event you were at this is a while back and so we went to this restaurant which was the number one restaurant in the entire country for what for the wine list according to the wine spectator It had a huge wine that was the size of the Manhattan phone book and I had boned up on the various obscure Greek wines that I wanted to check out. And so we go into there and I had all the cherries picked out and I opened the wine and said, there it is, we'll have a bottle of this. And the guy goes out, comes back, he says, I'm sorry sir, there's only one bottle left.

08:53 I said, yeah. He says, well, there's only one bottle left. You can't have it. What? So I picked another one. Same thing. Only one bottle left. Well, what is that all about? Wait, I'm getting there. And then another one. And so finally he saw he says, there's here's here's you can't have another one because this is the second to the last bottle and there will only be one bottle left. And I realized what they were doing is they weren't selling these wines when they got the one bottle so they could have this huge bogus wine list. Bogative. and it was bogative. The point is that the wine spectator was, you know, obviously found some, oh look at the size of this wine, so wine this is bull crap. So I've always been very upset about it. Well, we splurged. One bottle left. We splurged to celebrate being in Austin and we had a bottle of 2004 Barolo.

09:46 Okay, and it was outstanding Who's Barolo? I don't know. I brought the quarks just so I could tell you about it. I don't know anything Damilano Barolo does that mean anything to you? Doesn't I've never had it. Oh, okay. It was really good 2004 Barolo it was a really nice Good yeah, congratulations. I thought I had a bottle of Beaujolais over the weekend I thought you might I think you might actually know it and say oh, yeah, this is a good wine No, I don't know it. There's a lot of Barolas slide with slide whistle me down, baby

10:27 I got a note about your slide whistle from David. Does John have some kind of diminished lung capacity? No, this thing takes a lot of push to get anything out of me. It's amazingly... He says his attempts on the slide whistle sound awfully pathetic. He needs to really hit that thing with some force. Try using your diaphragm. Oh no! Don't encourage him, please. Don't encourage him. So, okay, this is great. So we have no executive producer segment. That's great. Shall I go straight into PR mentions then? Well, we should also mention that people can maybe become an executive producer by going to Dvorak.org slash blog, oops, slash NA. Maybe that's right. Dvorak.org slash NA. Is that page working? Let me check if the page is working. Maybe it's not working anymore. You had that redesign.

11:23 Dvorak.org slash NA. Let me just check. Yeah, that's working. Maybe we need to redesign of that page. Alright, the page needs work. So, Channelofwork.com slash NA, No Agenda Nation and No Agenda Show. And the way it works is if you come in with, what is the cutoff for Associate Exec? 200? Yeah, 200. And if you're the only, or the highest amount over 200 gets the Executive Producer. Of course we cut it off at $333, everyone gets it. But if you were the one person that came in at $200, you would have been the executive producer. We always bump it up. And these are real credits. These are credits that you can put on your resume, on your CV, on your IMDB. Shut up!

12:13 And unlike phonies in Hollywood, we'll actually vouch for you if someone says, oh really, you're an executive producer? That's pretty cool. It's a real Hollywood thing. Put it on your bio. Yeah, put it on your bio. Exactly. Put it on your college entrance exam. You could. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Why not? Yeah. Take anything. It's for real. Alright, so then we'll do this. Oh, please Dvorak org slash na help a brother out man. Give us some value for value I don't know what you're what you've been spending your money on what kind of quality I think we're in the holiday season and nobody's listening to the show. It's just you and me talking to each other Okay, well I got nothing better to do so although I will be looking for a job soon PR mentions today. Thank you gene for where the drones at comm which is great once we have all of that mapped out and

13:00 Maybe we can hook it into Wolfram Alpha. So you just say drones overhead and it'll shoot. You know, I was looking for the Wolfram Alpha thing. There was a helicopter flying over the Golden Gate Fields a week ago and I tried to see if it would show up on the Wolfram Alpha thing, but no. No, not the military, not the black ops stuff. And it was KGO. Oh really? KGO didn't show up on Wolfram Alpha? It's because it's not it's a flight path thing. You know the helicopters. They just buzz around like the drones the drones won't be able to

13:37 We won't be able to track them either. Anyway, thank you. That's a good one. Forwarding to the NOAgenda Show and noagendashow.com. And Harold did something really good. He saw that the noagendashow.com was not registered. So he bought and forwarded to us the .com, .net, .org, .co, .info, .biz, and .ca, all the noagendashow.com, which is great. We really needed that. That's a good catch. Appreciate that. New initiative, noagendabusiness.com. I'm not quite sure what it is, but it seems like there's a website there and it's some kind of business club that you can become a part of and maybe small businesses can help each other. And conspiracyforone.com, now forwarding to the show, which of course is a call back to episode 359-er with the lone wolf who was in a conspiracy.

14:31 So I guess we'll just start filling that up with everyone who was arrested as a lone wolf in a conspiracy. It will be listed on conspiracyforone.com. That's a good title for a book. Oh, that is a good title. When are you going to start writing it? Any minute. And now you, sometimes you miss an email. And I know that this guy has been trying to reach you for a long time and I just said, screw it, here's where you can find me. BrunsClothing.com, did you see this? No. So, of course you didn't. Well he offered to make you a handmade winter coat.

15:11 Brun's clothing.com I never got a me it must be a box and well then check your spam box guys been trying to reach you and I've even he's off his timing is on something's amiss I answer all my email everyone can attest to that and I even replied with you in the in the CC like hey John yeah anyway it doesn't matter what's a brat what's what's the who's it from what's the name of the address e Brad Rasore. It's uh, I don't have the email here I don't think. But it's it's brunsclothing.com. Bruns. Anyway so he made, it's made in America and these are really affordable, I'm trying to look at the thing here, like 60, 65 bucks he makes an awesome winter coat and he made mine with extra long sleeves and a concealed carry pocket on the inside.

15:59 I got it, I got it. Here's the only thing I have in my box from Bruns Clothing is a $66.66 donation that came in on May 18, 2011. Yeah, he's a long time supporter of the show. But anyway, he has a special offer if you buy and by the way So this coat was made by a 65 year old American woman not by some child in China it's super and and it's great because we've had rain for the past four days and This is perfect. What's it made out of? He's I'll tell you what it's made out of I know he's in Watertown South Dakota. Yeah It doesn't actually say what it's made out of

16:47 Well, it's okay. It's made out of something. It's made out of molecules. Anyway, he has a... Consists of molecules. That'd be funny. Special offer. If anyone orders a brun's clothing jacket for $12 extra, which will go directly to supporting the No Agenda show, he will embroider a No Agenda meme of your choice on the crest. Ooh, that's neat. Yeah, so he says you could do things like slave no agenda show calm Doug Dvorak works like Doug Hi, my name is Pete. I got Doug on my jacket Dvorak org slash and I anyways good and I appreciate it because I don't have a distraction of the week would be a good me That's a good one. I don't have any winter clothes and man. It's cold here is we had like a real storm last night It's just crazy

17:37 They got rain and sleet. We got hail on the way. And we're at the neighbors and then they're like, oh, it only lasts like two months. And then, you know, invariably one of them goes, well, last year was really horrible. It lasted. It was the nuclear winter. Like, shixnay, man, don't do that. Please. Mickey's going to tell me I'm jipping her. Hey, propagate the formula, people. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. So I think we have a CIA war acting up again, John. Well, that's not something that surprises anyone. No, but you still have all us. Yeah, we've been tracking this for for several years. Now the general counsel of the CIA has come out against this, this bill s 1867.

18:42 And he says, you know, we go down a slippery slope if an individual who wants to do harm to Americans who is inspired in his own basement by the writings he has read from Al-Qaeda and hasn't interacted with a single or other individual in that group, yet he has decided to do violence against America, blah, blah, blah. But the headline from Reuters, American citizens are not immune from being treated like an enemy if they take up arms against the United States. And I think that there's definitely some strife here between the military and the CIA once again. The CIA wants to be the boss of us. We can't have the military doing that. Well, military intelligence and the CIA, I've noticed this on the C-SPAN shows where the two of them show up at the same time. There's a little bit of a competition going on. Do you think?

19:28 Yeah, I'm sure they cooperate once in a while, but this whole pipe dream that all these agencies are cooperating is just totally bogus and of course it's I'm sure the fact that Panetta isn't you know we got Panetta out who do you have women who's running the CIA now I forget What's his name the gal came over for your buddy the guy with the guy with all the? Chevrons and metals and all this stuff over his uniform. Oh, right. Petraeus. Petraeus. Petraeus, yeah. Right. So, you know, they swap places there. I don't know. It's weird. I think the reason they swap places is because I think they're trying to get it so the two groups cooperate. Because neither one... I mean, these top guys, the absolute top of the organization are essentially figureheads. Yeah. They're not really... No, they don't really do anything. Manages... Always the... It's the deputy.

20:20 Guys that are seem to be running things and I don't know well speaking of the CIA the New York Times I thought did a really good job at explaining the following news report which kind of came out for like five seconds And then no one talked about it again Good morning. Well, he was a contractor working for the US government on an aid program in Pakistan apparently according to these militant sites and essentially the demands and there are eight of them are totally unrealistic. I'll just give you an example. The speaker on the site which is believed to be Eman Al Zawahiri says that the US bombing of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen needs to come to an end. All prisoners at Guantanamo Bay need to be released and it goes on and says anyone who's been arrested or charged with having any kind of links or contacts with Al-Qaeda or the Taliban needs to be released and the speaker on the tape, again believed to be Zawahiri, says that he will only be freed if these demands are met and it really is up to President Obama.

19:28 Yeah, I'm sure they cooperate once in a while, but this whole pipe dream that all these agencies are cooperating is just totally bogus and of course it's I'm sure the fact that Panetta isn't you know we got Panetta out who do you have women who's running the CIA now I forget What's his name the gal came over for your buddy the guy with the guy with all the? Chevrons and metals and all this stuff over his uniform. Oh, right. Petraeus. Petraeus. Petraeus, yeah. Right. So, you know, they swap places there. I don't know. It's weird. I think the reason they swap places is because I think they're trying to get it so the two groups cooperate. Because neither one... I mean, these top guys, the absolute top of the organization are essentially figureheads. Yeah. They're not really... No, they don't really do anything. Manages... Always the... It's the deputy.

20:20 Guys that are seem to be running things and I don't know well speaking of the CIA the New York Times I thought did a really good job at explaining the following news report which kind of came out for like five seconds And then no one talked about it again Good morning. Well, he was a contractor working for the US government on an aid program in Pakistan apparently according to these militant sites and essentially the demands and there are eight of them are totally unrealistic. I'll just give you an example. The speaker on the site which is believed to be Eman Al Zawahiri says that the US bombing of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen needs to come to an end. All prisoners at Guantanamo Bay need to be released and it goes on and says anyone who's been arrested or charged with having any kind of links or contacts with Al-Qaeda or the Taliban needs to be released and the speaker on the tape, again believed to be Zawahiri, says that he will only be freed if these demands are met and it really is up to President Obama.

21:22 So I look at this Warren Weinstein fellow and the New York Times has an article about this and it's like so obvious. Here we go. Listen to this language. Words do matter. American officials identified the man as Warren Weinstein, the Pakistan director, J.E. Austin Associates, as an international development consulting company based in Arlington, Virginia. As soon as he was picked up as part of USAID, that's the first thing I said. I didn't do any follow-up on the story. Spy! Spy! Well, he's an economic hitman. Yeah, well, listen, but the New York Times is so funny. Here we go. He was working on a development project financed by the American government in the tribal regions.

22:05 And here, he was a very experienced man and said he had worked in many countries in difficult circumstances. Oh, really? That total spook! Difficult circumstances, yes. I'm from- I'm from Virginia. Virginia. Please, please people. So what's going to happen there? I mean, you know, this is all part of this whole Pakistan thing. It's like, I think that the, that the U S and the crazies from our own country are trying to break it up and just decimate, you know, get the country angry at itself or something. And then, you know, they, they grabbed this guy and then they grabbed this, this guy's been grabbed for a swap of someone else. And he's 70.

22:47 I didn't realize he was that old. But there's probably somebody that they really want us to trade for and so they grabbed him. And they said, look, you have so and so. Give us Justin Bieber. You have so and so. We want him back and we want him back now. And then they made all these crazy demands and then the swap will take place but it has to be done. I'll bet you we never find out what happened. They'll just drop out of the news cycle. Oh, it already has. They tried it. It was like for a second there, it's like, oh, this is news and then Sperm and Herman back on the scene suspending his campaign. Can I just make a little Redbook prediction? Since you and I are a big fan of the reality format.

23:37 Newt Gingrich about to crash and burn. I just gotta think about what it will be. What do you think the Newt Gingrich crash will be? Well, he wants to get out, but at the same time he's really having a lot of fun. His ego is just getting nothing but strokes over this whole everything. I mean, he's getting lots of attention, he's getting op-eds in the New York Times. There's a couple today. He's writing op-eds? No, no, he's getting them about him. Oh, about him, okay. I mean, he'd write them too, but somebody else is going to be going on and on about him. He loves it. So I think he's going to have to crack or get mad or do something weird in public.

24:18 That was like embarrassing and cost him, you know, an election or two because he can't afford to actually run. He's got too many skeletons in the closet. There's a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed. He doesn't want to get out. His is such as what? He has a foundation that has been collecting money for all sorts of things. He's kind of like a clone of the Clinton Foundation and no one's really dug into it. Here's all I remember, before he got to where he is, when he started to run all the Real analytic pundits said this guy is not serious about running because he's got too much weird stuff with this foundation in terms of money. Right. That is that prevents him from really being able to just he can't give that up. He just can't cut that loose. And so he'll make a fake run at it because he can get matching funds and spend a lot of money do some travel. But he can't really seriously do to do this.

25:17 you know he's such an egomaniac that it's possible he might convince himself that he can't but I tend to think that he won't. I think he's gonna blow up to get out of it and then use that as an excuse and then he could ride the wave of well this is a problem with the news cycle. Oh yeah, right and then he'll get a news gig, like a really good news gig. Whatever so you know, but that then we're still left with Romney and I've sticking with my to my guns which is it's Romney Perry on the ticket and Ron Paul, I would like to see win Iowa and and you can't close in New Hampshire and then that'll be the end of him Thanks John, that's awesome. Well, I have a couple interesting Ron Paul clips because of course

26:02 Let us say, just to go along with our Uberlords in the mainstream media, there's no chance of winning ever! This can never happen! Which I heard last night at our dinner too. Well, the guy has no chance of winning. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Well, because that's what everyone says. But there's a new little meme. And it's this one. Ron Paul hit Newt Gingrich pretty hard this week and he's got the money to keep at it. 3.6 million in cash. Even better, he's got the army. This is the new one about Ron Paul. It's the Ron Paul army. He doesn't have like people, American citizens, who want to vote for him and who like his message. No, he has an army.

26:44 Yeah, they're portrayed as a bunch of fanatics. Yeah an army brown shirt an army and Fox and Fox and fools whatever it is so you know and we'll get to this in a second of course Ron Paul has now opted out of the next celebrity apprentice presidential X Factor reality show debate which is to be hosted and moderated by Donald Trump and Like if you really want to get Ron Paul out and you can't do it through any normal means like you know sex scandal or you know financial scandal it's like just roll out Donald Trump and the Fox and fools

27:27 We'll listen to this. It's very subliminal language, by the way. And boy is Ron Paul out. ...by Donald Trump, quote, the selection of a reality television personality to host a presidential debate that voters nationwide will be watching is beneath the office of the presidency and flies in the face of that office's history and dignity. Ron Paul leaving no doubt about his opinion. And Donald Trump also leaving no doubt about his opinion, responding in, I would say, vintage

28:15 Trump style. Ron Paul has zero chance of winning either the nomination or the presidency. My poll numbers were substantially higher than any of his poll numbers at any time. Few people take Ron Paul seriously and many of his views and presentation make him a clown-like candidate. John Huntsman who has in constant now listen to it here comes this is this is that the not so hot chick on Fox in the morning she has the skirt on of course and she's got okay legs because that's all we're supposed to be looking at a bunch of Paul numbers or a chance of winning will not be attending the debate and wasting the time of the viewers who are trying very hard to make a very important decision but in Iowa right now Ron Paul is in second place 80% of the vote in Iowa right now and perhaps one of the best ground games in Iowa among all

28:58 of the candidates. He has volunteers who are coming. He's... They're an army, aren't they? An army! There it is! They're an army, aren't they? How old is he now? 70? He's over 70 years old? Oh, ageist! He's over 70. Ah, over 70. Oh, obviously you can't pass that. He definitely is a... clips that. He has so many young people pouring into that state, more than any other candidate because of the excitement that he... Now listen to the douchebagette. garners for those individuals. So, I don't know, I mean, zero chance of winning may be a little harsh there, but 18% in Iowa. If he does well in Iowa, as Chris Wallace was talking about yesterday, that can be really important as we move into New Hampshire too. If Ron Paul is in second place, second place, that's telling. You're right. I mean, look at the early states. Ron Paul is consistently in double figures in almost every state we've polled thus far.

29:45 Is he inconsequential? Far from it. This race is fun! You never know what's gonna happen from day to day! This race is fun! Idiot. Well, you know the thing about Trump of course he said it was at the CPAC last year that he made a big stink about Ron Paul Saying he's unelectable. He's no good and all the rest of it, and then they let him with this baggage essentially bigoted Opinions about Ron Paul head the debate. Yeah, it's just unbelievable I mean who's who is the sponsor of this? I've looked into this this is

30:28 It's the ION television network, which I've never even heard of. So it's like, and it's run by Newsmax. Does that make any sense? Newsmax is a right wing operation. Right. So and Newsmax.com is a, I guess they're a pretty popular website. They have, apparently they have a cable channel called the ION television. Never heard of it. Oh, I know. Yeah. ION is a, um, Right it's a kind of a it's a weird cable operation that that is that syndicated in some funny way to others other networks Let's call the ion network. It's actually really more of a staging platform yeah, I describe whatever the case

31:16 Yeah, this is bogus. Bogative. It's totally bogative. It's the whole thing. Ron Paul was on CNN this morning. But this, by the way, proves that the right wing, I mean, the fact that Ron Paul is more of a right winger technically than any of these right wingers who are all big government Republicans that want to just expand government, because what they always do when they get in. Yeah. Big talkers, everybody, you know, they're religious, big government. It just proves that the true conservative of a Ron Paul nature who is for personal freedoms and legalizing or decriminalizing drugs, let's make that distinction. They're against anything like that. They want essentially a large bureaucratic monstrosity just like the Democrats. It's just pathetic. Did you see the Huckabee presidential forum?

32:08 You know, so Huckabee is doing this like, you know, there's like a firing squad. They get three people and then they ask the presidential candidates questions. And it's like they actually attacked Ron Paul, really attacked him about the Patriot Act. Did you not see this? No. You want to hear it? I wish I had. Yeah. Listen to this. It blew me away, really. Congressman, good evening to you. In 1995, We lost 168 Oklahomans in a domestic terrorist attack. My assistant attorney... So this is going back, right? So now they know his weakness is what Newt Gingrich, he got hoodwinked into bringing up Timothy McVeigh. And so now that's what they're gonna hammer him on. On Fox! General Melissa Houston is a survivor.

32:55 of that blast. This guy has a personal stake because it's his sister. And it spent many years after that utilizing tools of the Patriot Act fighting domestic terrorism. You have come out opposed to the Patriot Act based upon constitutional privacy concerns and I too share some of your concerns with respect to privacy. But what substantive or thoughtful alternative do you have to the Patriot Act to prevent further acts of domestic terrorism in the future. The one thing is, you say your goal is preventing all crimes and all criminal acts. I mean, you destroy liberty by doing that. But the Patriot Act, if that would have been called the repeal of the Fourth Amendment, it wouldn't have passed. That's essentially what that does. So that's way too much sacrifice of liberty.

33:39 But you know, there are laws in the books for violent acts. But if you think you can pass enough laws to prevent all crimes and all acts of violence, just think of the acts of violence that occur in our households. You know, accidents, are you going to put cameras in every household or whatever? So there are enough. I don't think it's a lack of laws. That is our problem. So Congressman, you don't believe that there needs to be a comprehensive law at the federal level equipping law enforcement to prevent domestic terrorism in this country? Listen to this. This is unbelievable. How can these people actually believe this crap? I don't believe we need a comprehensive law at the federal level. I believe we need state laws against violence. The one law that we do have at a national level that we totally ignore, and that is that terrorism is a crime and it's not a war. Yet we have drifted off to being called this is a war on terrorism and it's a justification to pursue war, not only around the world but even domestically.

34:40 I would say it's a crime. But the Constitution, I think, is very clear. There's nothing in our Constitution that says that violent acts should be a prerogative of the government. They didn't offer a national police force. I mean, even today, I mean, if you're talking about Criminal acts of violence, murder, manslaughter, robbery, that's all state. Okay, John, so now you and I are in the control room, we're in the booth, we have the IFB, we can talk to the host, we can talk to the questioners. Ron Paul clearly making too much sense. What do we do? What we've got to cut him off go to a commercial. No, no, we only have one card we can play man. What are we gonna pull out? Come on? Come on. Come on. Come on, you know, no issue. You know what to do. Come on John Mike

35:29 Turn off the light, turn on the fire alarm. That's what I do. The cessation of law enforcement. We have already a hundred thousand federal bureaucrats carrying guns. We don't need any more federal policemen. And I think that the problem is a lack of federal laws and federal policemen. Congressman, what would you call the attacks right around the corner on the Twin Towers? There you go. Bring out 9-11. Stupid idiot. I don't know who that woman was but oh do you not call that terror? New York City what would you call those? Well that's an act of violence and it's a criminal act. Is that an act of terrorism congressman? Yeah. Oh she knows so well doesn't she?

36:13 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, they're out there. Fox hates Ron Paul. People who are big Fox supporters and they think that they're getting some sort of a fair and balanced anything should just take a look at their treatment of Ron Paul from O'Reilly, who's just a Ron Paul hater, to every one of them. I can't think of one person on the, I think Napolitano does with some pro Ron Paul stuff and every time he does they put him on hiatus. It's like we've moved your time slot to 2 a.m. No, they put in a substitute. I've seen this happen two or three times. Hey man, you're going over the edge again. I think you need to take your meds and go on a little vacation.

36:53 Don't worry, we'll bring in someone to take care of it. It's all paid. It's all good, man. Then we have all these other guys. I mean, Lou Dobbs is now working for Fox and he's like now kisses the government's behind. You can play this clip. There's a guy who was floating around who had a bumper sticker that says Obama's got to go. And so apparently they busted this guy for threatening the life of the president. and uh... the guy talks about how do you know that we did see the service everybody talked about this now lou dobbs just goes on for no apparent reason about how great these government workers are and and the uh... secret service forks were cordial and uh... uh... in all respects

37:36 Oh yes sir, very professional. As I'm used to when dealing with somebody who's been trained and properly trained. Well, Secret Service is a terrific outfit. I've never met an agent in the Secret Service who was not professional in every regard. Really? What? What's he talking- What does he know about? Why is this? What is the point of this kiss ass? Is he hanging out at the bar with the Secret Service or something? I have no idea why he's kissing their butts like this on the television. Maybe they give him inside information, who knows? I want to hear about what happened to this guy, played bad bumper sticker. This guy says he runs a construction company, says not hiring anybody until Obama goes and he had this bumper sticker that says Obama's got to go and so all hell broke loose. From my understanding it evolved from I was turned into the FBI and then the FBI handed it over to Department of Homeland Security and then they handed it to Secret Service and Secret Service came and visited my house and we had a long conversation

38:36 and I gave them a voluntary search of my premises. I also brought up my Facebook page and they took a look over it and decided that it was somewhat a waste of their time that I wasn't putting it out there that I meant Mr. Obama or President Obama any harm. That's very interesting. So you have a bumper sticker and then you're deemed as a threat against the President. Yeah, if you have an anti-Obama bumper sticker. Wow. He said that he could have reworded it, but it wasn't very... What did he say? I can't remember, but it was very mild. It was like, no more... something about no more jobs and Obama's got to go kind of thing. Oh, go, yeah, yeah, go. That would be the operative word there. You can't say go.

39:28 Well, you know, it was a, I wish I'd written it down, but it wasn't, it was dumb. It was like, oh, you know, this, it's the kind of thing you'd run into in Montana, you know, all the time, you know, oust the president, you know. In fact, I'm looking at the chat room in Montana. I think it says get until we get rid of Obama. Oh, that would be it. Oh, you can't say that, man. You can't say that. Can't say get rid of. In Montana, they have impeach Obama bumper stickers, but that's okay, I guess. Yeah, impeach would be okay. Yeah, you can't say get rid of or got to go or anything like that. But we're still waiting for it. A threat. Yeah. What kind of an, you know, you got is a, it's a bumper sticker.

40:09 Whatever, whatever the case, this is all part of the Patriot Act and everything in between. But yeah, no, there's a Ron Paul thing. I hope that the people of Iowa, you know, wake up and just as a, even if you don't like the guy, just vote him in because it's just, this is so lopsided. This coverage is so skewed, bigoted and fake. It's just, it's really annoying. And I think the New Hampshire, uh, voters who might give him the nod because they see through all this stuff because they have meetings just like the Iowa people do. Once you get out of the states that have these meetings where people actually talk about things, then he's done. Well he's got an army, you know, a very... he's got nut jobs, an army. Army of nut jobs. You hear it, you watch, you're gonna hear this more and more, Ron Paul's army. Yeah. Can't just be Americans who want something different, it's an army.

41:00 that's not uh... you know the funny thing about ron paul is thesis is that today's new york times front page right the front page left was a distraction to defiant keen suspences bid for presidency but today's new york times sunday times Story DEA launders Mexican profits of drug cartels Undercover US agents agency follows money denying similarity to gun gun operation The story goes on and on and now it turns out that the DEA apparently Is the number one drug laundering operation in the world. Duh. Duh. They're the number one money launderers and they claim that as well. It's not the same as the guns because money laundering doesn't kill people. Guys are just this is the this is the problem with this war on drugs and the whole thing this bureaucracy the DEA. It's set up to actually smuggle drugs man come on the whole thing is it's a scam. And there's actually a discussion of that too. Yeah.

42:02 Well December 8th. The fact that these Fox, all the news outlets can't see through this and condemn the whole thing is beyond me. Can't see or won't see. They're all on coke half these people. Hey that's it. Hey man don't report on that. I'm gonna get my shit to dry up dude. Don't do that. December 8th, US Attorney Holder will have to testify again and the word on the street is that this is going to be that there's going to be some fireworks and that all the cover-up is going to, you know, he's going to buckle, he's going to have to resign. December 8th? December 8th, yeah, C-SPAN, mark it now. Thursday? Yeah. We'd be doing our ship? Yeah, well, I got the DVR.

42:48 Is there anything in the New York Times about Syria, John? No. Nothing at all? Nothing? No, the CIA still got Syria on the outs. Well because... 1, 2, 3, nope, nothing on the front page. Because there is a little sign for Reid Zakaria, who of course is a total asset. Yeah, he's an asset for MI6, he's not an American. Well but he goes drinking with the president. He only has his secret meetings. Well, that I wonder about. Okay, well then it makes sense that MI6 asked that. He says here in his most recent blog, Assad leads a minority regime that has been able to stay in power by bribing key members of the Sunni elite in both business community and the military. At the end of the day, the game becomes much more difficult to play once the money runs out. For this reason, I think we are now seeing the beginning of the end of Assad's rule. It may still take a year to run its course.

43:41 There's a key, but I now think... They can't get us on board. Whoops, here we go. We got one story on page 16, lower. Below the fold. The bottom corner. 15 are killed as Syrian forces and army defectors clash. Okay. It's a very short article. Looks like it's about 250 words. No good. And it just doesn't say much. No good. No good. It's not time yet. It's not time. Big scandal over in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. Extremely funny. So we have the Dutch version of ASCAP BMI, which is called Buma Stemra.

44:23 And you know I think you and I inherently know all of these organizations are corrupt and they steal money And they know they hold money back, and they're supposed to be protecting the artists, but they don't really know and there's never get protected No, so there's an anti-piracy group who are really aggressive in Holland called brain b-r-e-i-n Also, which means brain and you know they've been suing people and they've been throwing people in jail getting people thrown in jail and all kinds of stuff like this hello love So they have a so they're an organization and they have a little video leader that they put on every single DVD that is released in the country. It's one of these, you know, don't copyright burr, right? Which we you would see from the what do you call it the the American movie? What is it called here in the States?

45:19 I don't know why you know the the movie is the come on help me out the movie association like the ask me double a yeah those guys yeah MPA so what turns out is they used a piece of music without permission from some guy who has been fighting since 2007 to get paid. Because they, you know, when the Harry Potter DVD is released in Gitmo lowlands, that thing is on it with his music. So he has an actual physical distribution right and a right to a royalty. So this guy's been trying to get paid by the Dutch ASCAP BMI and then they've just been giving him a run around and then one of the members of the board calls him up, the members of the board of the ASCAP BMI in Holland and says here and they had they recorded this. This is the great thing they recorded the guy saying it says well look I've got a publishing company and I'll tell you what if you sign with me

46:15 Then I'll make sure it gets on the on the meeting notes at the next board meeting and anything I get I take a third Wow It's like wow, can you believe this is going on and of course it doesn't make mainstream news anywhere, please Yeah, and now the guy is he's on vacation now. It's like on I can't make the next board meeting That's what that's what that's what it's like that's how it works Yeah, it's bad. I'm sure the same thing is happening everywhere. It's just that they caught this guy and they actually got it on tape. It's pretty cool. Yeah, that's why everything is all your phone calls should be taped. They actually did it in a radio studio. Oh, geez. They had like the guy. Boy, your phone sounds really good. That guy's an a-hole. Anyway, there's a whole story about it. You should read it in the show notes. 362.nashownotes.com.

47:20 So I'm wondering if, you know, you had your meet your you're floating around on the Hot Pockets Tour 2008 and you ran into some Secret Service guys, several, probably a couple of Lou Dobbs' buddies I guess. They're so kind. Who told you that there's stuff on Hillary that will prevent her from, you know, even thinking of running for president. Right. Do you think it's possible that the Hillary camp knows this and their whole job over the last year while she's floating around the world as operatives for her is to find all these leaks and quash them and put them in, stuff them in the closet and do everything you can. And the reason I'm suggesting that is because of this

48:11 just bubbling on the surface of the possibility that Hillary is going to replace Biden has come up again. Oh boy. It's come up again and of course that's just a lead in for her to take over the whole job, you know, because if Obama decides to quit, but play this very bogative story on approval rating. I just call approval rating BS and it, when we're watching it here, we're going or saying to ourselves, Does Hillary actually have an approval rating and does Bill Clinton have an approval rating and does the Secretary of the Treasury have an approval rating? If so, where are these things and who's doing them and why? Lost in the Great Recession. The president appeared with the former president Bill Clinton today, a very popular man whose help he may need to win over the independents and re-election.

48:59 CNN political analyst David Gergen came out front and he says another Clinton may actually be the key to re-election, Hillary. Gergen says there's talk about Hillary joining the ticket next year. Her current approval rating is higher than that of her husband. This was, I think it's just made up first of all. There is something called the Q rating. There's a company that does that. No, no, no, this can't be that. The Q rating is not the same as an approval rating under any circumstance. That's just a notoriety rating. I don't think that's what they're talking about. Are you saying that they're making this up, John? Well, I mean that yeah, this is your buddy Aaron Burnett by the way This is her report and now she could have also made them as she may have made a mistake because I don't think she's very good at this show that she does I think she's in over a head. It's completely bogative and so she said that her that Hillary's Rating is higher than her husband's. I think she meant Obama

50:00 No, well, I don't think her ratings higher than bill bill has a great rating Well, if you listen to the end of that Fox report I played earlier They've got an approval rating to you just listen to the end again state. We've pulled thus far Listen is he inconsequential far from it? This race is fun. It's gonna happen going to happen from day to day. It's really been a roller coaster ride. It's been fun. You put out a similar statement when I couldn't go to your Christmas party last year. Yes. Clown life. Clown life. Your ratings are inconsequential to me. Right. Your poll numbers are always better than mine. Yes. See, everyone has them. We don't have... We need poll numbers. We need some poll... We need some approval ratings. The podcast approval ratings. Yeah. Anyway, so there's some... So this is starting to bubble and with the fact that Burnett would have it.

50:48 seems to me to be a plant a plant and Not only that but what was weird about the clip was they showed Obama with with Bill who looks like he's gonna drop dead He looks so he doesn't really looks bad. Yeah. He needs to go to Haiti and rest a little while He just doesn't look good. I mean it looks like they're poisoning him actually and and then they showed Hillary and it wasn't like a recent picture of Hillary and Miramar in a place like that. It was one of her Paris shots and she had the most glamorous hairdo I've ever seen her wear. Oh yeah, which was not what she had in Miramar and two things about that on the last show you said hey she needs to get to Paris

51:29 And lo and behold, I think Reuters or was it AP? Let me just check here. Came out with a report that literally said it was, yeah, Reuters. What not to wear in Myanmar? Clinton's Burma Road. And then it goes in this whole thing about her fashion. It's like it wasn't exactly Nixon in China, but Hillary Clinton's visit to Myanmar this week had that slight touch of the surreal that sometimes marks the beginning of unexpected diplomatic change. And then talks about the color coordination. The protocol is do not wear white and pink, rust and saffron discouraged.

52:05 And then of course she came out and she was wearing a pastel pink blazer, but did you see her? It was a bright blue pastel. No that would that's after she got off the plane Then she wore the blue pastel with her hair all tied back, which will just look horrible Just horrible back to Paris, but did you see her and Suki? Oh Hugging? Well I just saw him standing there but I didn't... Oh! You didn't see them hugging and kissing? Oh no, no I didn't see the hugging and kissing. Oh it was like get a room you two! Like you know, they, oh yeah they're holding hands and they're hugging and kissing three four times and looking deep into each other's eyes.

52:46 Yeah, you know you're stumbled onto something my friend Remember she said that she heard after her Secretary of State hood. She wants to go work on women and girls around the world I Think she's getting a head start a little jump there It's in the show notes. You should take a look at it's really it's like oh my goodness. I mean but but like sisters, but then It was sexual I saw sparks Well, you know, why not? Especially if Hillary's gotten all the skeletons eliminated from the closet. She starts making a move right now.

53:28 uh... tory obama's job which will start with her being bumping off of not bumping off but eliminating from the ticket uh... bio by then they are who would be glad to get you know he's he's got his he's hired said he's set to go to a star here he has other studies in the east pooped he's got a good one and he can step aside, she can put herself in that position and then just before the... I don't think she'll ever take second spot John. No she won't but she's gonna put herself in that position so she can bump Obama out. In other words just before the election months ahead when Obama has to

52:46 Yeah, you know you're stumbled onto something my friend Remember she said that she heard after her Secretary of State hood. She wants to go work on women and girls around the world I Think she's getting a head start a little jump there It's in the show notes. You should take a look at it's really it's like oh my goodness. I mean but but like sisters, but then It was sexual I saw sparks Well, you know, why not? Especially if Hillary's gotten all the skeletons eliminated from the closet. She starts making a move right now.

53:28 uh... tory obama's job which will start with her being bumping off of not bumping off but eliminating from the ticket uh... bio by then they are who would be glad to get you know he's he's got his he's hired said he's set to go to a star here he has other studies in the east pooped he's got a good one and he can step aside, she can put herself in that position and then just before the... I don't think she'll ever take second spot John. No she won't but she's gonna put herself in that position so she can bump Obama out. In other words just before the election months ahead when Obama has to

54:04 go you know take care of the family there'll be some family matters he wants to spend more time where he's sick of the job or something bad happened or maybe the some scandal who knows could it be how we're sticking with the theory I mean he may run again if he does I really do agree that Hillary is unlikely to be you know put up with being vice president but we'll see it's getting interesting let's put it that way for us it is yeah Well, nothing we have predicted has fallen off the track anything nothing important yet. No well no, but I I will hold on to the prediction I still think he will quit but and and here's another one that keeps cropping up in the front page of Sunday style a huge picture of of an egg being cracked open with the head of and upper torso of

54:56 Chelsea Clinton popping out of it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I hope that's online. Hold on a second Wait a minute. There's an egg cracking and Chelsea Clinton is popping out of it? Yes. Really? Living up to the family name, huge 72 point headline. A job with NBC is the latest step in Chelsea Clinton's gradual coming out as a public figure. One who seems to finally accept her celebrity. Oh, the online version does not. Oh yeah, it does. That's hilarious. She got you like a little egg pop out What is that what is the symbolism of that egg she's also on the board this is interesting in the past how much she's joined the board How does she become a board member? She's just some recent college grad so obviously because of corruption Barry Dillard's IAC interactive Corp. Yeah. Oh Oh, you know what here you go. Do you know what her next move is?

55:57 I can tell you. Okay, her next move is Chelsea Clinton jewelry on the home shopping network. Isn't that Dillard's company? Doesn't he own that? Doesn't he own that? I don't think that's gonna happen. She wouldn't do it because it would be, she has to be taken seriously. They're gonna push her as a... Listen to this. Taking an increa... Oh, Oh my goodness. Take an increasing public role with the Clinton Global Initiative, presented an award to her mother at Diane von Furstenberg's International Women's Day event and hosted her father's 65th birthday event at a Hollywood benefit for the Clinton Foundation with fellow guests Lady Gaga and Bono. She's even started a Facebook page. Oh my goodness. Let's go look at her Facebook page. Hello from London.

56:41 Hello from London! Tonight I'm attending an At Millennium Network reception co-hosted by Chris Engslov, Sarah Latham, and Virginia Rustique-Pattini. The Millennium Network invites, oh this is one of those Clinton things, invites younger leaders across different sectors, including business philanthropy, to get involved in the work of the Clinton Foundation, which includes improving health systems in the developing world, combating HIV, AIDS, etc, etc, etc. This is just, it's a PR thing. But she should put like a, like cool pictures on there. You know, like of her naked in the bathroom when you take it in the mirror. Like all the kids do on Facebook. Oh yeah, holding the camera. Yeah, like all the kids do on the Facebook. All the kids. Oh, these pictures of her. She does have pictures. Oh my goodness. Wow. Okay. She needs to learn how to do the pout, the Facebook pout.

57:35 Someone needs to teach you duck lips the duck lips. Oh, yeah, this is not good what I'm seeing here These are not flattering pictures. Let's see. Here's one with her mom. No wait. That's with Lady Gaga Their mom and Lady Gaga the same no it's hey have you ever seen him in the same picture? Seriously, and there she is with Bill Yeah, no, this is this is very very sad her profile picture looks good. I Have to say it's a good profile picture, but then you look at the one with her and she needs to get her act together She needs a publicist. Oh, she will not allow these sorts of photos And she have a professional photographer at her beck and call and very on every continent bring the guy in he's the superstar let him take the photos and Then use those and he'll know how to make them look like snapshots. She'll only be flattering. She's you get Annie Leibovitz

58:27 Yeah, Leibowitz would do it. Yeah, so this is a picture of her and Vanessa Angelica. I don't know who that is. Some... Oh, this picture is just... She looks like a pumpkin face carve-out. That's what her head looks like. This is... No, they gotta get their act together if they're gonna pull this off. And she's got a gut, and her gut's hanging over her belt. She's got a gut? Oh, yeah. Not young to have a gut. Anyway, so our prediction was that she will run for something, and, well, here she is. You know, the legacy Or the dynasty has to continue. You know, this is this is how these families work Jeb Bush We haven't heard from him lately either. I'm still expecting him to pop up at any moment. You think that's possible? Yeah, it's almost it while he'll pop up but there's not he's not going anywhere and he knows it so he's not really caring that much hmm Anyway, John we are about to celebrate a very very very very big and very important event and we as always when there's an important event we have a jingle

59:29 The Euro I don't know how long we'll be able to use the jingle Thanks to Paul the book guy for putting that together so the euro You know I look at all these EU websites And it's hilarious because it's they put a lot of information out in all different languages They must have thousands of people working on these sites and of course the euro celebrates its 10th anniversary in January of 2012. So while the whole thing is coming apart at the seams, literally just falling apart, you know, like, of course, you know, no one sends a memo like, hey, man, we should kind of roll back the celebration thing because like it ain't doing too well and people might see that as kind of dumb. And, you know, what's on the calendar?

1:00:23 Heinz, I think it's time to make the Euro Tenta celebration video. Which is a great video. It's really put together well. You know, it's beautiful animation. I've chopped it down to a couple of minutes. It's like 10 minutes long. But there's a couple of very interesting pieces of information in this. Bombastic music. Europe is more than just a place on the map. Yes. With its common heritage and history, shared values and achievements. Europe builds bridges and inspires hope.

1:01:00 What shared values? What shared achievements? And hope? What shared hope? This is a group of people that have been fighting with each other since time immemorial. Since Charlemagne. I can get so much better. It behooves its people to look to the future with confidence. Confidence. Look to the future with confidence. Have you seen Athens by any chance? One advantage is that there is no need to exchange money when traveling within the euro. So this is all about you know how great it is this is how it was sold in in 2002 it's like it's only good is you can travel without exchanging your money it's so awesome we need to do this.

1:01:51 Indeed, irrespective of which country issues the banknotes and coins, they can be used in any of the euro area countries. And having the same currency makes it easy to compare prices from one country to another. Or to see how you're getting nothing in your paycheck from one country to another. It's very easy. Now let's bring out Draghi, the chief of the European Central Bank. Over the past decade, the single currency has become a symbol of integration and cooperation. And the euro, banknotes and coins have become part of our daily lives.

1:02:38 Despite the challenges currently faced by Europe, as well as the rest of the world, the people of the Euro area can rest assured that the European Central Bank will remain faithful to its mandate of maintaining price stability. Really? Which means not bailing anybody out. That's how you're gonna do your price stability, Draghi? Now comes the whole bit about counterfeit and some interesting information and it's what they not show that kind of struck me. The 10th anniversary of the Euro banknotes and coins also marks the end of the exchange period for the old national banknotes. Now this is something I didn't know. Apparently you can still

1:03:24 take your old banknotes from I think it's Finland, Greece and Italy, interestingly enough, and still exchange them but these deadlines are expiring. Yeah, I think the French franc too. Yeah, the franc as well, you're right. France, Greece and Italy. So if you still have some, you should exchange them before the 17th of February 2012 at the Banque de France. the 28th of February at the Banca d'Italia, the 29th of February at the Bank of Finland, and the 1st of March at the Bank of Greece. Do you think there's anything going on with that? Because it just struck me as odd.

1:04:06 Well, I've got a bunch of old French francs and I knew that they were going to expire. They've been trying to get them off the, you know, I'll probably keep the smaller denominations as collectibles. Sure. But I don't think that's unusual. No, you don't think there's any... In fact, they did the same thing in the English pounds are even weirder because there's old pounds and new pounds and they look exactly identical. except for the fact that there's a little logo on the note itself. I think it says E, just a couple of letters. And if you don't have that logo on there, you can't use the bill. And when I went over there and I had one of these old English pounds, it was just like any other one. They said, oh, you can't use this, this is no good. You got to go to the bank. And I, what?

1:04:50 So, they just want to, just some sort of normalization of the currency or something going on. You don't think the collapse of the euro will, or has anything to do with the timing of this? Well, I think the collapse of the euro will make this whole thing more funnier and maybe these other things are going to be really valuable if you don't cash them in. I don't know. So there's a very interesting movement afoot. Hail the foot. Listen to the, now they go into the counterfeit thing and how secure these notes are, but listen. Like other international currencies, the euro has become a target for counterfeiters. But with more than 14 billion genuine euro banknotes in circulation, the chance of receiving a counterfeit note is extremely low. And their security features make them difficult to counterfeit. So they're showing... The euro system experts... They're showing the 5 euro note, the 10 euro note... ...cannot counterfeit banknotes.

1:05:50 Additionally, the ECB and the national central banks of the Euro system strive to keep up with the latest technological developments. in order to maintain the very high quality of Euro banknotes. And by the way, where they're talking about all this counterfeiting, they're actually showing the printing presses running counterfeit Euros, which is... because of course they're just printing it up. You know, I find this interesting more than the other thing, because why would you... we don't brag about the fact that, you know, I mean, they're always fighting counterfeiters. But I would never think it would be in some sort of celebratory video. It sounds to me as though there's an awful lot of counterfeit bills out there. I think that, well here's what I've uncovered. There is a movement and there is a theory, a conspiracy of one.

1:06:39 The 500 euro note, now if you go to Europe and you can say to anyone, do you have a 500 euro note? No one will have one. But there's I think 300 billion euros, some number like this in 500 euro note denominations out there in circulation. And what some are saying is that the European Central Bank will basically call them null and void and say, look, the only people who use these 500 euro notes are criminals. So we're just going to you know, you can't use them anymore. It's done with it's all over. And then they can actually take that 300 billion euros and put it back on their balance sheet.

1:07:20 Because it's just a reserve note, right? It's not, you know, they just say, oh, we've canceled that. Then they can take that $300 billion and put it right there on their sheet as an asset. Well, I mean, if they actually think they could pull that off. There's talk of it. Maybe this is part of it by saying well, you know counterfeiters criminals all that and they never show the 500 or the 250 or the 100 euro note in this entire video except at the very very end They have a fan, you know, like and they fan out all the euro notes But while you know, you got the girl shopping you've got her in the restaurant. They're showing 5 10 20s And a 50 and that's it. They don't go above that. Hmm

1:08:04 I mean there is a movement about this this 500 euro note thing just just say hey, you know, it's only criminals anyway so let's just call it a day and and we'll just say we'll just put that back on the balance sheet which is kind of the missing piece that they need for the European Central Bank bazooka. Well, I would definitely help 300 billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at. Which is you know now we we learn As a part of the Lisbon Treaty Charter, the European Central Bank can't actually help towards, in contrast to what Draghi just said, they can't help with the stability of the euro because they are not allowed to bail out banks and just print up money that way. So now we learn that the central banks, foremost the Federal Reserve, are going to print up money and lend it to the International Monetary Fund, who then will give it to the banks.

1:09:00 Yeah, the IMF did manage to get us worm its way back into the discussion. But that's crazy. We're going to be on the hook for money the Federal Reserve prints, gives it to the IMF, and then they give it to the banks. Yeah. That's not okay. Well, the IMF usually gets the money back. Yeah, or they get islands and shit. Yeah. Well, they get it back. Yeah, get the assets cool stuff generally a bargain basement prices I in terms of kind of a I wouldn't call I wouldn't call the IMF a criminal enterprise or racketeering But there but if they were they would they're they're good at it whitewashing at the very least Angela Merkel

1:09:50 You know, listen to one minute of Angela, what she's saying. The German Chancellor Angela Merkel has told the country's parliament, the Bundestag, that there's a need for more fiscal union in the Eurozone. She said EU treaty changes would be needed to introduce greater European powers. Yeah, like send all your taxes to Brussels. But dismissed criticism that Germany wanted to dominate Europe as misleading. And she warned that she looks like... Who is in... Deep Space Nine. Who was the guy, who was the alien kind of dude that, Quark. Quark, you know with the big head? Who's always doing all the trading and stuff? One of the Ferengi? Yeah, yeah. She looks like a Ferengi? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, she looks like Quark.

1:10:34 With her hair, if you molded the hair into the head, she looks just like the Ferengi, like Quark. Saving the Euro would take years. The government always made clear that the European crisis cannot be solved in one fell swoop overnight. There's no such thing as the one fell swoop solution here. There are no easy and fast solutions, especially not, as some people insist on saying ahead of every summit, one last push. The Chancellor said the ECB could not intervene like national central banks and again rejected the use of euro bonds or any other collective guarantee of individual governments debts.

1:11:13 Whoever still hasn't understood that Eurobonds are no means of rescue for the crisis has not understood the essential nature of this crisis. Merkel called for sanctions for countries that failed to respect fiscal rules. On Monday she's to meet President Sarkozy who said yesterday that Europe had to be re-founded with France and Germany at its heart to ensure stability. Yeah, that's worked out historically. That's a good idea. Get the French and the Germans, they'll run the place. That'll be great. Oh my goodness. It's fun. It's fun to watch. You know, what will the world actually look like when this all comes tumbling down, John? I mean, is it going to be like previous depressions? Or is it just going to be everyone's still going to have TV and we're all going to be kind of like happy and distracted? I mean, what is it going to be like?

1:12:02 Well that's a good question but I can say that I know what it's going to be like afterwards. It's going to look like the old map of Europe. That wasn't a good question. It was just, it was not a good question. Really? I thought that was a good question. Play Pet Peeve. I gotcha. Oh crap. And this whole business about ignoring what's going on, what are the legal implications if I know somebody's harming a child? I have a responsibility morally, how about legally? Exactly, it's a great question. It's not a great question! Go go go John go it's not a great question he actually made a statement and it wasn't a question at all it's ridiculous that she would say this. Keep going don't stop. I'm done I'm done. Did you see the New York Times interview with Sandusky pedo bear numero uno? You know I've given up on this clown I mean it's like

1:13:06 This guy, if they gave him a four hour interview it was the LA Times that did it. No, New York Times. I thought it was the LA Times. No, it's New York Times. The New York Times probably, well, I mean, it's on the New York Times. Whatever the case, he talked for four hours and yacked away and he's just apparently, like, has the, he's really essentially 11 years old in his brain and an idiot. Here's the only 18 seconds that matter. If I say No, I'm not attracted to boys. That's not the truth because I'm attracted to young people, boys, girls. Yeah, but not sexually. Right, I enjoy, that's what I was trying to say. Yeah, I enjoy boys, girls, doesn't matter as long as they're under 12.

1:13:57 Pedo bears that's disgusting. That's so wrong man. Hey guys so dumb. Yeah He's insane. It's obvious. He's insane. Yeah Too many too many hits too many concussions, so Where were we? You were saying something and I said that was a good quote. Oh yeah, Europe. All that happens is they have these shakeouts and the next thing you know they've redrawn the borders and then maybe Alsace will go back to Germany and you know the Savoy will be owned by somebody else and the Italian lines will be moved and they'll put the board... I mean I don't see how this is going to work out.

1:14:41 It's just this is just a way but when's it gonna fall apart? I'm predicting that January is going to be the beginning of the end UBS Warburg big bank How does it had a interview or slash op-ed in the Wall Street Journal and the end of the article stack actually sent this to us? It says quote no modern fiat currency monetary unions have broken up without some form of author authoritarian or military government or civil war Hello So who's it gonna be who's gonna fight who well the French and the Germans are the ones that always end up fighting in the end But if you remember the way World War one started it was It's snowballed and the next thing you know people start taking sides because they had too much pride not to and it was just a fiasco and then it devolved into trench warfare in France the French always end up

1:15:43 taking up the brunt of this and it's got to be why would it be any different I mean I don't know how it would form this would take well first of all there's not going to be a trench war we know that it's going to be a drone no there wasn't one in World War two either but World War two was a bombing war right now I'm in the crap out of everything what we have a drone war this time around It could be a drone war, that would be kind of interesting. It's pretty advanced though, I think a drone war is a few years off. I think it's gonna start with... first of all, the war won't start until 2020. that would be based on the cycle of wars. Okay, so we're good for a while. But the antagonism would start to build because you just can't, as of today, the French and the Germans do not feel like going to war with each other. They, you know, they're happy. So it would take a good, close to a decade of

1:16:39 Bogative propaganda on either side to get him to hate each other enough. I know they would actually start to kill each other You know I I'm kind of disagreeing because I feel the hate that you know so there's a lot of hate against the Greek the Greeks first of all and which has been completely manufactured. I know people in the Netherlands, I know people in England and they just say, these Mediterranean, the club med, which of course is a total derogatory term in this case. They don't want to work. So there's hatred there, but they don't care. Because you know they're not gonna write what you're saying is that hatred is already built up. It's to be redirected Yes, exactly. I think it's not that easy to redirect. I think it would take a while hmm I think so got to fall apart a little bit more than they've done I mean I think it's gonna happen, but it's not tomorrow or the next I think the collapse of the euro and a depression could start You know this next year or the year after sure people who are eating like sugar beets

1:17:42 And would, you know, it's not hard to redirect their anger at a certain point. Yeah, there's not enough of them yet. No, no, no, no, not yet. But if the collapse comes and you don't have like euro notes coming out of the ATM, you know, people might get a little PO'd. Yeah, well, I think I think Germany is going to be the bad guy again. Germany's always the bad guy. It's a very successful script. It's been used over and over and I think we should just do it again Let's just call the Germans the bad guys again. Well, we could you know, the French could always be I mean the French have produced a Napoleon a couple of them and Actually three iterations yet Napoleon the first was did a couple of nasty things in a row after he got banished he made a comeback and

1:18:27 And then Napoleon III, Louis Napoleon was not quite the same but he was a... he's the one who tried to actually take over the southern part of the United States during the 1860s by sending a shop in Mexico waiting for the American Civil War to break the country in half so the French could take the bottom part and the English could take the top part. It was an international scheme. Yeah. So there's a tradition of this sort of thing with these countries of scheming and I don't see that ending and it's possible but I don't see the French re-militarizing so I would probably subscribe to the Germany becoming the bad guys again. Right. We just need a better leader.

1:19:07 Angola isn't you know she's not gonna be around for much I mean how long she been in she's somebody after her right there probably some you know character who's a little more of a nutty right have a little mustache maybe I think we need a different meme. I don't think the mustache thing is gonna go over too well. I think we've kind of seen that one. Let me check the book of knowledge to see how long she's been in. Yeah, you do that. Since 2005. She's been in for... Oh, she's been in too long. Past her due date. Yeah, November 22nd. Time for a new guy. We'll see. Time is right. Isn't there some right-wing crazy guy in Germany that's running?

1:19:55 It's gotta be right wing crazy. Just Google right ring crazy German. Yeah, who's the top hit? Let's see what we get Right-wing freaks out blah blah blah Republicans select a crazy right-wing Southern Baptist hillbilly. This is the end of do German. No, that's no good in Germany. You're crazy, right? I was an asshole I look at neo-nazi Germany from the inside ex-mother-in-law since crazy right-wing stuff to me. I None of this is any good. So nobody's cropping up at the top of the hit list. Well, Angela may be very capable of growing a mustache. It's possible.

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1:33:17 In our continuing series of interviews with the Knights, and it's a good one so I like that I like that Maynard's doing that this painters a great guy He really is he really is an awesome guy, and he's got a like a job. You know you got all kinds of he's on works for Australia ABC Australian broadcasting yeah, he's got a real gig and silly finds time to help us out, and I really like that. That's cool Um he probably gets material from us. Oh, yeah, no you know that he's doing his show. It's like Hey everybody, it's Maynard Down Under. How you doing everybody? You know he's like completely replicating the show Yeah, whatever Did you get this note about Fukushima? You probably went oh brother and rolled your eyes right? I went oh brother and rolled my eyes Yeah, so this guy Jim Stone

1:34:09 He posted I'd completely missed this, but I love it He is asserting and I only got this this morning So I haven't had a chance to really dive into it, but I do I do like the theory He's saying that it's possible that the Fukushima reactor and of course I always said that this was an earthquake machine, and this was not a natural occurrence he says that it was probably an act of war and they set off a nuke and Because and and this was indirectly related to Israel because Japan was creating Uranium was what do you call it? What do you do with uranium? processing uranium for Iran Mmm stretch. Yeah, he's got a lot of interesting Yeah, he talks that what I like is he talks about this outfit that went down there to take pictures of

1:35:03 With these really crazy cameras. Let's see what the... Let's see a camera. Here it is. Magna BSP is the name of the outfit. Who went down to take pictures of the reactors before this all happened. But the camera, it looks like some kind of laser gun. The owl is what it's called. Which he says is actually a nuclear weapon. And then he goes into all kinds of, you know, he has all kinds of data about the earthquake that it really wasn't a, there was no way it was a 9.0 earthquake. I'm, I'm liking this theory. Yeah, you would. Yeah, well, you can scoff me if all you want, but we know that earthquake machines exist. We have that statement. So, you know, you can't. From the United Nations. No, from our very own Secretary of Defense, Cohen.

1:35:58 Okay, so it's not just United Nations is our Secretary of Defense. He said that other countries have that so but it's called the Magna BSP owl Yes, Magnum. It appears to be a detection company. They detect things. Yeah, the detection analysis company. Yeah, it's always those guys There's a bunch of these characters. Yeah. Do you see the the owl you see the gun? That's finding it. I'm on their website. Oh Oh brother, just opened up a PDF. Thanks for nothing. I hate it when that happens. I'm doing a broadcast here. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna tune up all my bandwidth. Yeah. Anyway, I'm glad that... Do you also notice when you start opening a PDF, you can't stop it? Uh, no. You can't say, no, no, no, I don't want this, I don't want to wait all day for this PDF. No, you have to hit the back button, I think. No. Oh, really? I don't, you can't stop it. It's, it's, you're doomed. Doomed anyway.

1:36:55 So I'm glad that one of our producers there brought up some vaccine stuff because this is an amazing report. And I think we need to dissect this a little bit because the World Health Organization, our buddies over there who created the previous fake pandemic scare which brought in millions, tens, hundreds of millions of vaccines around the world bought up by governments, big bonanza for the large pharmaceutical companies, and of course killing people in the process of use and without any recourse, certainly not in the United States of Gitmo Nation. But now the Chinas are getting in on the act. and

1:37:55 The process was given a boost earlier this year when the World Health Organization announced China's Drug Safety Authority meets international standards for vaccine regulation. Helen Yang represents the Chinese firm Sinovac. I believe that many companies will have high expectations now that China's FDA has passed the WHO's pre-qualification. I'm sure many companies from our sector will go to the WHO to register their products Once our products are approved by the WHO, it will be much easier to register and export our products abroad. Sinovac had captured world attention in 2009 when it developed the first effective vaccine against swine flu in just 87 days. I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that.

1:38:46 Did you know this? No. The company's now testing a new vaccine for a virus that causes severe hand, foot and mouth disease among children in Asia. Wait a minute. Hand, foot and mouth disease is something that cows get and sheep and horses and now it's like now kids can get hand, foot and mouth disease? You don't think that this whole publicity and the whole Chinese thing has anything to do whatsoever since you're now in cahoots with the WHO, the fact that the WHO is run by this Cretan Margaret Chan from Hong Kong.

1:39:31 She's the one who called that was you know, it's gonna be a pandemic. She read, you know, reuse the word and not only that they restated what a pandemic was. They redefined it and then called it. Yeah. And panicked everybody. There were lines all over the place for people to get shot. Oh, I'm gonna die. Yeah. Well, now, now it's great. Now we're getting our China stuff. Get your shots from China. Yeah, I'm sure the quality will be nothing but the best. So I wonder if the China companies will also be indemnified. Or will you be able to sue them? You won't be able to find them if you had to sue them. They just go out, just move down the street. Gone. All right. Well, cool. I'll be waiting for that. I'm sure the Chinese court system is really amenable to civil lawsuits. Yeah. Yeah. Put everything in China. You don't have to worry about it. So I'm looking at this Magna BSP website. Yeah. And they got the scopes, the stereoscopic passive electro-optic radar, which is like a stick.

1:40:32 And you put it up as a small stereoscopic passive electro-optic radar system in the world which detects and recognizes targets immediately with negligible false alarms. It's a one-man radar. This is very interesting stuff. Well, the owl... So that's the hawk that you're looking at, the Q hawk? No, it's the scops. Oh, okay. I'm seeing the Q hawk. This is a thing that sits on the ground on a tripod. And apparently can see everything. It's a little radar. The Owl line of products has a virtual wall capability that enables the system to virtually seal a desired region with or without a physical fence. The Owl system... Wow.

1:41:15 I like these guys. The owl system is fully passive with advanced tracking abilities and is operational day and night under all weather conditions. The system constantly processes the scanning zone looking for changes in 3D visualizations in the scenery. When a change occurs, the system estimates the intruder parameters based on user predefined filters and sounds an alarm. Yeah. I see you're- This is an Israeli operation. That's my point! That's- it was the Israelis who went in and created the earthquake and blew it all up. They didn't create an earthquake, they created a tsunami. Oh, I got the PDF too now. Ah! You're right. The only thing you can do is close the tab. Only the Israelis try to pull that crap with a PDF. Trying to blow up my computer with a PDF. Scops.

1:42:08 2006 a system was selected to provide perimeter protection for the Ben Gurion Airport scheduled for fielding as perimeter protection for military facilities in Israel. This is the, this is a news story on the passive EO radar. What is this thing? Well you know there's some years back a number of Silicon Valley companies and I think one's one perfected it and there's also a perfected gyroscope on a chip there's also radar on a chip that's why the Ford's the more recent Ford's like the Focus you can buy the car with radar all you know chips all around the thing and it'll park the car and you to get anywhere near something beeps at you right you're getting too close and it shows you a little radar image around the perimeter of the car because these chips have become so cheap little radar chips

1:42:56 that you can use them in all kinds of different things. So I guess these guys are exploiting them for military purposes. But I mean, I always thought that these radar chips are going to find all kinds of uses. I mean, that's what the Mercedes has on their car that'll stop the car for you, which is a big debate amongst the car makers. I've talked to him about these radar chips and, you know, the Mercedes, if you're going to ram into a truck, The car sees the truck coming and it just slams on the brakes and you will not hit. And Ford says, well, you know, we give you a lot of warnings, but we don't like the idea of taking it because you might be, maybe you want to ram the truck. Maybe you want to ram the truck. Right. But so there's like a big debate about it. But these chips are going to start showing up in almost everything.

1:43:40 I wonder if they're gonna be expensive. Well, they do. Can we always see them? It's a chip. It's got to be at some point. It's a silicon. It's I guess it's CMOS radar. It can't cost. I mean with the circuitry around it to make it work, I'm sure it's not cheap, but at the same time, the chip itself can't cost more than a few bucks. Anyway, it's interesting. Well, they're creating high output radar so they could probably warm up a portion of the ocean. Well, they got the one here is pretty well. I think yeah, I don't know. I don't know how these it's now again now I'm curious. I want to you got to read this article It's in the show that magnet system includes a range of static panoramic sensor poles each carrying two stereoscopic or four quadroscopic sensors to thermal IR and to CCD E This is just a visual thing and then they got radar somehow hooked in with that. I don't know looks like a periscope to me whatever new stuff

1:44:40 Do they have a tab that says new stuff? No, I'm just looking at this. This is just looks weird. Anyway, hold on. Here it is. This is his thing on weight over 1000 pounds, the size and shape of the gun type nuclear weapons. The reason Magnum BSP gave for the odd shape, enormous weight and giant proportions of their cameras was that they were stereoscopic. Certainly creatively called them by scopic when you search on their site. Okay. Type bioscopic camera into Google images. Okay. This helps marketing, I guess. It says the need for such large stereoscopic camera be plausible at an airstrip. But he says other manufacturers have units appropriate for inter focal lengths, which are twice the size of ordinary monocular security cameras. Depth perception going mild miles. Magnet does not make passive radar systems.

1:45:38 Which require a large body, but the owl could accomplish. So he's saying that these radar systems could do this. Bioscopic camera. Do you look at the... I'm looking and all I get is a bunch of old stuff from the turn of the century. There's all kinds of... Apparently, bioscopic cameras go back in time because I'm looking at a bioscopic camera that looks like it's from about 1890. I just clicked on images. Right. And do you see that thing on the first one, BSP.jpeg? Which is from magnabsp.com. Look at that thing. It's like a rocket ship. I don't see... I've got bioscopic camera... Oh, wait a minute. I spilled it. I got bioscopic. Oh, that thing. Holy crap. Okay. That thing's huge. That looks... That looks like a Tesla coil. It doesn't look right. Well, they have this other word that I've never seen before. Apparently, there's a bunch of imagers. They're using imagers more than radar. I guess I'm wrong about that. At least with this stuff.

1:46:38 And they have a thing called a bolometer camera. So I gotta look up bolometer. I've never heard that word. Bolometer into Google. Wikipedia, look the book of knowledge has got it. The book of knowledge! A bolometer is a device for measuring the power of incident electromagnetic radiation via the heating of a material with a temperature-dependent electrical resistance. It was invented in 1878 by the American astronomer Samuel Langley, and where Langley was named. The name comes from the Greek and word boli, for something thrown, or bolo, as in ray of light. Well... I don't know. Hot electron bolometer.

1:47:27 Creates cryogenic temperatures or operates at cryogenic temperatures for greater sensitivity Well crazy crazy crazy stuff these guys must have a huge budget to do this sort of research. Yeah, yeah well if you're Selling earthquake machines to people you can make a couple bucks. It's good stuff hot electron bolometer Something else we need to look into I just got turned on when you said that I

1:48:03 Hey baby, I got a hot electron-balometer here for ya. Is that a balometer you've got in your pants or are you just happy to see me? Here's Julian Assange as we switch gears. Barking on the development of our new whistleblowing source protection platform. Do you have a whistleblowing source protection platform in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? We undertook a research effort to see what really is the state of the art in international surveillance systems. We pulled in these groups here to help us with that effort and the findings are really quite remarkable. I have been working in studying this industry 10 years ago and I have kept my eye on it since. Wait for it. But this in-depth investigation that we have performed shows it is not this relatively small, although still measured in the billions of dollars, industry it was 10 years ago.

1:49:09 9-11 has provided a license for European countries, for United States, Australia, Canada, South Africa and others to develop spying systems that affect all of us. So who here has an iPhone? Who here has a Blackberry? Who here uses Gmail? Well, you're all screwed. He's doing stand up now. Yeah, he's got a million of them. He'll be here all the week. Yeah, he says that there's and of course it's true. He says there's so many contractors out there now just selling stuff to any any government that wants it. How do you know that you can go and snoop all this stuff? Have you? I'm sure you've been following that. What's the name of that company that QIR company that everyone's been talking about there in Silicon Valley? Yeah.

1:50:08 Yeah, you got a take on that not yet. No. I don't have a good no. I don't have it cuz you know I've got Say I was too busy with this story So visitors the portlor sometimes surprised to learn that it's a possible contender for the title of you luteus place in America It has more strip clubs per head than any other city. Oh And it's in its compact downtown sex shops are scattered amid the bookstores, coffee shops and social services. Apparently everyone's in Portland's a stripper. One of the results is that Portland has been a leader in what might be described as the small but growing industry for ethical adult entertainment.

1:50:47 I like it. Ethical adult. There's a vegan, vagan, vegan strip club for example. Another owned by a cattle rancher sells locally sourced... Stop, stop, stop, back up. Wait a minute, a vegan strip club. What is that? That means only vegans are stripping. Is that a pole or the stripper? I can't quite tell. Oh God. This to me is like, this is important stuff. Your stripper is gluten free. Honey, eat a steak. Really a vegan strip club. Wait, this can't be true Look it up in Portland, Oregon. Yeah, duh Vegan Strip Club. I want to know the name of it Portland. I'm going I know somebody up there in Portland Portland opens first vegan strip club. It's true. Oh

1:51:39 Oh my goodness. It's called Casa Diablo. No way. Oh, there's a video. Wait, wait, wait. Let's listen to the news report. A local news re- Oh, this video has been removed by the user. Ah, bogative. I hate that. Yeah, it's a real shame. The world's first vegan strip club in the world, y'all! It's mind-boggling how no one's thought of this concept before. We know that whenever we go get a lap dance, we instinctively get peckish for some pan-fried tofu. I tell you, the girl in the video on the advertisement looks pretty good. Hey, they're hiring dancers now. Call Johnny. 503-222-6603. Eh, just call Johnny. Auditions every day from 3 to 7 p.m. Casa Diablo.

1:52:33 Oh really? Free pool and free lunch. You can go take a dip. You're right, John. Screw anything else. That's important stuff. Yeah. I'm bummed about that video being... Well, there's probably another copy of it somewhere. Yeah, it seems like there's tons of them. I guess that was a big deal. So in other news on the blog, Dvorak.org slash blogs, you can find that story and others. Apparently, Alabama police keep arresting Japanese managers of the Honda and Toyota factories for being illegal aliens or something. Which has got everybody all irked.

1:53:24 Other than that, I do have a couple more clips. Yeah, let's roll them if you're interested. Let me get to the How about bullying? I got a lot of response to my rant on the bullying clip. Yeah, which is a was it is an ad It's a public service announcement I ran into and by the way If you want to catch a lot of weird public service announcements starts you and you have the dish Network, right? No. Oh You have cable. What are you doing now? I can't afford cable. I I get internet and that's the kind of income we're getting in the last show. I can't afford 200 bucks a month. It's pretty expensive. Well anyway, the Dish Network has the Pentagon Channel and they play public service announcements like there's no tomorrow. This one, I don't know where this one actually came from but I picked it up off of one of the stations in the morning. Sorry. And this is the bullying ad, the anti-bullying ad.

1:54:18 I'm Demi Lovato. Join me to stomp out bullying. I was bullied so I know how much it hurts. Are you or someone you know being bullied? Do you know a bully? Be kind, be brave, and be courageous, and report it. Don't be silent. The best way to stomp out bullying is to never let it start. Stomp out bullying now. Visit Love Our Children USA at www.loveourchildrenusa.org. It's the cool thing to do. Is this kind of a violent approach? Isn't this a bullying approach to stomping out bullying? Stomping out bullying? It is so. This is, this angers me. When I was a kid, and I get to say that now as I approach the 5-0 mark,

1:54:59 If someone, you know, my parents would actually tell me, you know, I remember I was bullied as a kid, they say. And then one day I went up and I popped him in the nose. Yes. Did you get the same story from my dad? Yeah. See, that's the American way. It's like, you know, eventually you just get mad enough and you just pop them in the nose. Right. That's that's the story. Who came up with this story? I don't know. In all the years I went to school, I only ran into one. I actually got into a fight with a bully, but it was like a joke. And I popped him in the nose, but it was not because, you know, it didn't solve anything. It was just an accident. But I do have a friend who actually beat the crap out of a bully and it turned out that the bully at the time he was beating the crap out of him was dying of some disease anyway and he wasn't going to be able to fight back. But no, I think this is, it doesn't, this whole bullying thing is not about bullying at all. It's about First Amendment rights and the fact that they're just trying to keep people from, you know, saying, you know, talking about anything.

1:55:56 I'm looking at this is a step in the wrong direction trying to see if I can find the the history of our children USA org keeping children safe strengthening families this looks like some sort of a national nonprofit leader go to prevention organization fighting all forms of violence and neglect I remember I got bullied at the bus stop when I was about eight and that my parents put me in judo classes so yeah then you got to learn to like be any a judo is not an aggressive No, it's a defensive strategy. I could at least duck and cover. Track and field is your best bet.

1:56:38 You know, you get really fast. When I was a little kid in Chicago, I used to hang out with a guy who was a, who knew jujitsu and we're talking fourth grader, who was really good because we would be roaming around and some kids would try to jump us and he'd just flip them. And then we'd run up to some steps into some relative's house that he knew. And, but I remember one time being at some park roaming around with the guy and some kids, a little gang of kids says look at those kids they don't belong here let's get them. Right. And they started running at us and we just ran like fast as we could and we outran them. So that seems like to be the you know what most kids would have to go through what are you gonna do? So what are the bullies you bullies shouldn't be hitting me or punch these kids. It's a gang of kids there's a bunch of them. So what is the definition of bullying?

1:57:30 This is irksome. Definition of bullying. Okay, this isn't... Oh wait, this is tfk.org. What is this? And isn't it when you're in a good debate, isn't that if you're a good debater, a master debater, aren't you bullying the competition? I mean, where does it end? Well, it ends in you not being able... If you're in a college class and you know all the answers, you're a big know-it-all and somebody answers something stupid and you ridicule them with your correct answer, is that bullying? Yeah, I guess so. You're not allowed to say anything anymore. Definition of bully, archaic, a blustering, brow-beating person. That's a bully. One habitually cruel to others who are weaker. That's half the bosses I've ever worked with. Really? How about our government?

1:58:19 Yeah, a bunch of bullies here bully to bully a verb. Okay, what does the verb say? Oh, I get a pop-up ad from Netflix really Webster Miriam Miriam Webster or whatever your name is to treat abusively to affect by means of force or coercion. Okay, well you're not allowed... It was always very clear with my parents. You had words and sticks and stones will break my bones, words will never hurt me, and then you had assault and battery. And it was very clear. Yeah, there's a big difference. Yeah. And the sticks and stones thing seems to have gone by the wayside. Yeah, you can't... I mean, yeah, where'd that go? Where did that go?

1:58:59 My daughter, you know, she was here just before Thanksgiving. She was saying, I really got bullied. And at a certain point, I didn't even tell you guys about how bad I got bullied. I think girls get bullied more than guys do amongst themselves because they're always, you know, the mean girls in school, the insiders, they're always picking on the other girls. But it's all just talk. It's not like a I, throughout all my school, I've only seen one actual cat fight and it was in a largely a Latino school that we were, our school is being finished, a high school in the South Bay. It was Logan High, which was mostly Mexican kids.

1:59:40 and there's two Mexican girls went at it and it was like something to watch. I'm telling you. It was hot. But it was, that was the only time, you know, they're always yelling at each other, but there's the only time I've ever seen any actual physical. Meanwhile, guys are having fights constantly. Well, it's not good. I mean, if you, if I were the president, I mean, the number one thing I'd say, you know, it's like, we got to, sure, we got to have better education for our kids, but how would we not make them into pussies? You know, It's like, don't get pushed around. I mean, that's one of the core values that you can give to a kid. It's like, hey, you know, if someone's talking smack, talk smack back. Don't be afraid and don't go running to the police or to the anti-bullying squad, whatever it is. You know, Facebook bullying. Yeah, that's what kids do. Facebook bullying. Yeah, that's big. Facebook bullying.

2:00:35 What is Facebook bullying? You say something nasty on Facebook and everyone snickers behind your back? I mean, what is it exactly? I know they like it. They click on like. John, you're ugly looking and you have, you know, Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, when his Constitution Hall, he'd be like, kids be so mean. Like you can't have an ice cream because your daddy is under welfare. He's an alcoholic. You know, that's what kids used to do back in the day. And now they do it on Facebook and like, yeah, daddy's on the welfare. Click the like button. But it doesn't mean that you should be arrested for doing that. Facebook bullying. I'm glad I don't have young kids anymore. I have to deal with all that crap. It's a school with bullying. Please. Yeah. Well, as we've already talked about on the show, it's all about just taking away First Amendment rights. You can't say anything. Can't say anything about anybody. You're bullying.

2:01:35 Hey, you know, why don't we call out some of these candidates for bullying? Hey man, you're bullying Rick Perry for being an idiot. You can't say that about... Well Fox is bullying Ron Paul. Thank you. We should call the bullying squad. Yeah, they should arrest Fox. Fox News. But apparently, but see the way they're slipping this in. And talk about bullying. I mean if you ever watch the O'Reilly show, my god. Yeah. All that guy does is try to intimidate everyone who comes on. But the way they're playing this is only if you're gay. That's how it works. Like they're bullying you and if they're bullying you because you just happen to be gay, which is what they always, I just happens to be gay.

2:02:15 That's when you that's when it's not okay. But you know everyone's weird in some way. I got bullied all my life I got Tourette's I had the wrong hair the wrong clothes everything was wrong and here I am very successful I turned out great you still have Tourette's you still have weird hair and you still have crappy clothes And no career to speak of this is great But now of course you'd be it's like a stopped clock. You know it's everything you do Oh man, alright do something else for me what else we got here? Let's see. I see you have an Egypt clip let me help you into it. This is the Egypt clip this is the one where the guys apparently they're shooting rubber bullets at people and blinding them and so I'm listening to this story I'm saying this story does it there's some element in here that doesn't make a lot of sense. Once again I came here yesterday

2:03:10 at night because I was going, I was at TEDxYouth Cairo and then I heard about what's happening so I came directly, I went home, then I waited for my parents so they can come and they approved and they came with me and the three of us went We came here, we met lots of people who were injured, our friends, our families who were injured. I went to the front lines, I checked what's happening. It was awful, the CS gas is horrible. It's uglier than ever. It's the worst.

2:03:47 What other kinds of weapons are they using? They're using rubber bullets and other kinds of bullets that like flourishes in the air and stuff. It hurts lots of people. You know Malik Mustafa, the activist, he lost his eye. uh, lots of several other people lost their eyes, uh, and, and actually the, the revolutionary people who were injured in Jan 25, they also got, uh, got injured. Like there was one guy who had lost his eye and he lost his other eye yesterday. So he had, he had both his eyes lost. It's important for- So you go to this thing and a rubber bullet blinds you, hits you, blows your eyeball out. Or both of them apparently. So you go back. Hey, can I have another?

2:04:38 And the other thing is about these blinding rubber bullets, which I'm sure they would do that if you got hit in the face, even though they try to shoot, they usually shoot at your feet. Yeah, arms, feet, legs, yeah. Well, they shoot at the ground and you're supposed to, you know, get your... In America, though, at our protest... Maybe they shoot right in your face in Egypt, it wouldn't surprise me. No, they do that here in America, too. But the point is, where are the people wearing goggles? If I'm going to one of these riots or something like that, I'm gonna have goggles or glasses, eye protection. So if they shoot me with rubber bullets, at least the goggles will absorb some of the impact. Nobody's wearing goggles. So I'm wondering how much...

2:05:19 You know, I don't know, maybe I'm assuming there are people getting blinded, but... I think we should start a new thing, Goggles for Egypt. Goggles for Egypt? Goggles for Egypt. I mean, who needs to get blinded at a demonstration? Well, apparently, our presidential administration spent $200 million on the elections in Egypt What? Yeah, the USAID spent $200 million dollars. Yeah, $100 million dollars in economic development and also to train Egypt's political parties. $100 million dollars. What, how to do flyers and pamphlets? And $65 million dollars

2:06:06 This is Stephen McInerney, Executive Director of the project The Middle East Democracy, told Campaign and Elections Magazine $65 million went to Egypt after the uprising that toppled President Hosni Mubarak. An additional $100 million was earmarked for economic development. And this all came from USAID. Isn't that our money? That's 200 million dollars. That's a quarter of what it takes to become president. So you think there's some meddling going on? You think that there's... that they want to bring someone in like El Baradai? I don't know. It doesn't sound right.

2:06:50 By the way, just a quickly back to carrier IQ. I guarantee you this will be a tie on twit today Yeah, it's a carrier IQ. Are you on twit today? Yes, I'm on twit today Okay, so when it comes up here's what I want you to say because it's gonna come up with a carrier IQ Please my nut it will who else is on the show I don't know. So whoever is on you say, so why is no one upset about Echelon and the government tracking you and listening to all your phone calls and putting GPS devices on your car and just reading your emails? Why is no one so upset? Why are we all upset about carrier IQ? This is the real distraction. Carrier IQ, bad Silicon Valley company. No, your government is the bad company. They're the bad actors in this. This is what irks me.

2:07:38 It's all this press about carrier IQ, but no one talking about what your government is actually doing to you. Could you please do that? Oh, yeah. And then please take along this jingle. I know you've been wanting to play it. Yes. So I've been following a couple of things. One is that one of the things is the internet tax. They want to tax the internet. And the other one is the this SOPA and the IP, Protect IP and all the rest of these bills that are trying to, the guys that shut down websites say, oh, we don't like what they're doing, shut them down and you have to do that, right?

2:08:20 So I got this some stooge from the US Chamber of Commerce who seems to be all for this you know these laws I thought this was kind of an odd one and I and the funny things this was on News Hour with Gwen Ifill who's never asked a hard question in her life She sits there and just soaks up whatever they say and uh-huh and goes on to the next she's the worst she has no She's not an aggressive interviewer in the least and this actually irks me to no end. So play the servers are hard to find, Clippin, and tell me what you think. If we can find who's behind the website and if they're in the United States,

2:08:59 Yes, they're breaking US law. In fact, they're breaking international law and those remedies are available and enforceable The problem is even if the website is registered here with a dot-com or dotnet address The operator the servers may be anywhere in the world and they may be very hard to find. Let me see Traceroute ever heard of that idiot? hard to find How is a server with a DNS address, obviously, hard to find? Oh my goodness. Well, let's try it out in action, John. Here we go. I'll show you how it works. So if we do a lookup, if we actually do dig, no agenda,

2:09:45 Show calm here this we should be in the chamber of commerce answer section 204 232 137 207 so we take that and then we say trace route and then we hit that and Trace our command not found crap stupid Mac this I misspelled it. We have a winner. Here we go. I misspelled it. Okay, it's 64 hops. Of course, I'm behind in NET. No wonder you get, no wonder this sounds. 64, it's already timing out at my firewall. But anyway,

2:10:22 That's how you do it. It's not that hard. Well, you know, there's there you can assume that there are some smarties out there that can they can bounce it around so much that you never really find where the guy is originating from because he's going through all sorts of hoops. But these guys this is about these these websites that have fake Rolexes. How many of these guys give a crap to go through any of that? They just set up shop in Indonesia or Malaysia or Nevada and they start selling their stuff until they shut them down or somebody comes knocking at the door and then they just move on to the next one. But it's not that they're hard to find. This guy's an idiot and the fact that Glenn Ivell lets that thing go right by her, oh they're hard to find? Why are they hard to find?

2:11:05 Ask him, why are they hard to find? Don't they have an IP address? And doesn't it have to be registered somewhere because there is someone that is delivering this IP address to the person? Or if the person actually owns the IP address, you know, directly from ICON or wherever they're going to get a bank of IP addresses. Don't we know who these people are? Can we look them up? You can actually find their phone number. Yeah. It's a block of crap. It's usually right let's see let's this is the kind of thing we get from the public broadcasters as journalism Let's try whatever he wants. Let's try a website Can you find there's got to be a website with some fake stuff do we have like fake Rolex calm or something fake Rolex?

2:11:48 Let's just try this fake Rolexes. It probably is fake Rolex.com. Let me try fake Rolexes. They weren't shut down. There was a bunch of these shut down the other day. Let me see. Rolex replica watch enthusiasts. Let me see. Here we go. Swiss Rolex replicas review. Rolex replica.webgarden.com. Okay. So how hard is this? How come that hasn't been shut down by the way? We need to really really this Rolex replica web garden calm. You got it like shut that oh by the way It's not responding. That's probably shut down. Yeah, maybe they got it. Maybe they got that one. There's another one This is it wrap when we shut down to because you can see hmm, but I got replica. Here's a Replica here we go replica CC comm

2:12:37 There's a whole and with prices it you can buy it right there, so let's do a who is look up wait like replica You do that I'm gonna go look at replicas Replicas no replica CC comm so that's the domain name. Yeah, let me see what I get here I get oh yeah, they got some nice watches here register expensive, so this is so they have the Jiangsu banging science and Jiangsu banging Science and technology co? Someone's funny.

2:13:14 Like this one watch this is a beauty these are some gems nice on you. Oh, yeah, they got some tag Hoyer's a Daytona Oh John just by looking at this you got to get real man. You can't look at this stuff, man You got to get real because you're costing Americans jobs. There's no America What American makes a tag Hoyer what American makes a Rolex here it is here so? This tag whore Monaco is nice. Here's their phone number and plus 86025868880037 in Jiangsu. Let's just call them in China. Chiners! I'm telling you, it's the Chiners.

2:13:53 Yeah, it's always the Chiners right so it's not hard to find another one look this one up to WW is over watches.com see if that's still up over watches over and I say that because the the images on this site that we just were visiting was Are from over watches this domain was owns once owned by a seller of replica channel Chanel Chanel Chanel Pursuant to the judgment and injunction blah blah blah Western District of Tennessee the owners of the website previously appearing on this web address were held to have been selling replica Chanel products By the way, what Americans have lost their job over replica Chanel products? That's a French company now check this out if you do a who is on that it hasn't been hijacked by the US no no it's owned by Chanel Inc 9 West 57th Street

2:14:44 What? Yes. Overwatches.com, registered through GoDaddy, created March 9th, 2009, admin, legal at chanel-counterfeitenforcement.com. Whoa, that's a cool domain. Maybe it's a honeypot. Yeah, owned by Chanel. So this was a honeypot. Could be. Well what else would it be if it was owned by Chanel anti-counterfeiting? Well but who is it, who is it, if it was shut down, I mean how come these guys just get to own it then? No I think they owned it all along, I think somebody fucked up.

2:15:27 Because it was always the same as Overwatches. Interesting. Well, it is Overwatches. And the Overwatches had all the pictures of all the Rolexes. It was set up as a honeypot for the Chanel stuff and it was shut down supposedly for selling replicas of Chanel handbags. This is bogus. This whole thing is bogus. My point is, if the domain name says overwatches.com, what gives Chanel the right to own that? Why can't Rolex own that? No, I think it's Chanel. They owned it for whatever reasons they wanted to own it. Probably to catch people you know that were interested in buying there. I don't know what they were up to I have no idea all I know is that this whole thing is just a massive cluster scam of Bogativeness Meanwhile this other site the replica ACC nice. That's rocking it. Yeah, you know whether or not you actually get them, but their price is about

2:16:23 Seems about right. Yeah. Where would you get them? They probably ship them straight from China. They get blocked. Now how come this site hasn't been brought down? And this is the one coming out of China from the university. And how hard is it to go visit the place and say, hey, you guys are running an operation out of the college here. Why don't you stop that? Stop it. FAQ. Contact us on the website. You can email them. Watch809 at gmail.com. Well, how hard can that be? Just call up Google and say, hey... It's impossible to find these people! FAQ let's see with let's see how long this delivery What if I don't have a credit card don't worry about it. No problem. We'll take Western Union Some pretty amazing I like contact us that's the best you also get some watch boxes Watch boxes are expensive a Rolex watch box is 28 bucks new arrivals

2:17:23 So you get the watch box and put your fake Rolex in it and give it as a gift that looks like a big spender. Alright, do you want to play this rogue websites thing or are we done? It's the same, it's the same idiot from the Chamber of Commerce. No good. You can play it. It's really good consumer news, you can use protection, but he says they're just throwing stuff out there. This is critically important to protect the 19 million American jobs and American consumers. Because in addition to the rogue websites that are based in the United States or at least have those domain names that our enforcement agencies can reach through the existing court process, there are many rogue sites that are based entirely outside the United States. They're ripping us off and laughing all the way to the bank. The legislation pending in Congress... Unlike the government.

2:18:18 who is literally ripping us off and laughing all the way to the banks. and there's a campaign of 350 companies, trade associations and professional organizations from every corner of the country, from dozens of different sectors of the economy who support rogue site legislation. Larry Downs, is it at least worth it for public awareness? So I think we have a new domain name if I'm looking at the chat room, Bogativewatches.com.

2:18:59 Alright, I got one little thing unless you have something I got one thing left. No you you got it alright So as you know I'm tracking the 99% concert for Occupy Wall Street as I believe this will be coming forth very soon I know who the headliner is going to be and it's a surprise headliner and Ben Stein recently was in an interview scenario you know Ben Stein from Ben's yeah, I think so world began 6,000 years ago. Yeah, he's a weird dude. So he's in an interview with like the editor of Bloomberg or something and he starts railing on the Occupy Wall Street people and all of a sudden I know who the headliner is going to be. They're talking to each other and thinking they're accomplishing something. They're people who don't know the real meaning of the word work. They're kind of sad and

2:19:47 Self-important and I as far as I can observe they're not doing anything very important. I mean if they're against greed Well, we're all against greed. They're against fraud or all against fraud. There are any laws against fraud? I don't understand what they're doing. The only times I've ever been around them. All they did was bang on drums I don't see that that accomplishes very much the 99% the 99% are working working Occupy Wall Street. They're working try working or they want to be working. I There are those in the 99% who are trying to work and they're... I mean, you gotta admit that the economy's not working for everybody. I don't see these guys working. Bang on drums ain't working. That's right. Todd Rutherford will headline the 99% Congress, everybody. Can you just see it? It's gonna be the new anthem, John.

2:20:38 I like it. I think you're on to something. We could all sing that with a human microphone. My boss is a jerk. I'm gonna bang on the drum. It could happen. You could have gone out with that. Well, we're done. I'm going. I'm gonna take a chance and buy one of these Bulgari watches. Oh no. Are you gonna do a Western Union? and figure out, yeah, Western Union will do. And see what happens, see if I get to watch or if they just take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. We do know where they live. Right. Yeah, we can find their server. Yeah, we know where it is. And we'll see what we get. China. I've been waiting for a trip to China.

2:21:24 All right, everybody. Here's what's coming up as a final clip of the program We have an interview with sir Matthew of Melbourne brought to you by our buddy there Maynard In Australia get my nation down under target of a future hot pockets tour for sure After we do the west coast which Mickey desperately wants to do this summer so it looks good for her Yeah, I don't think we can do an RV though. I think I don't think I can get up the the Rockies there. Oh Do consider us in your thoughts, your prayers and your donations through PayPal, bank or otherwise at Dvorak.org slash NA and the NOA Agenda producer update coming up next on the stream. Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in Austin, Texas, the capital of the Lone Star State. And good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're on Herman Cain Watch. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on NOAgender.

2:22:22 Sir Matthew? It is Sir Matthew in the morning to you Maynard. In the morning to you. You are speaking to Sir Matthew in Melbourne and when Eric De Schil sent out the word that Knights should contact me for interviews, I've been swamped Sir Matthew. Oh fantastic. And the big problem is everyone's in great time zones like the Netherlands, Gitmo Nation East or Stinky Cheese. We're a long way away aren't we Matthew? Down Gitmo Nation, down under yes. Colleagues in other countries it's always hard to find the right time to call them. What am I do with the other nights? I might get a series of questions, send them the questions and they can record their own audio. Oh, that sounds like an idea. So I can stick it together and everyone can have the same answers and we can even like make a mini documentary out of it. But right now, Sir Matthew, how did you get introduced to no agenda.

2:23:21 with the podfather started listing that was probably about close to two and a half years ago now and haven't looked back since. What hooked you? Probably because it's an exhibition of rational thought in the media which is something sadly lacking. where it's not sort of, oh it's got to be this black issue or this white issue, it's let's have a discussion that what's good about it, what's bad about it and I gotta say I get a bit of kick out of some of the more crackpot bits. I always sing along to the jingles and I particularly like it when they play the Gitmo national anthem. In the morning, and happy and distracted slaves. That's correct. Because sometimes that's the only way to get through the day isn't it Sir Matthew? It is, it definitely, I'm one of those that's definitely a car drive

2:24:00 commute in the morning and back home in the evening, listener. Is there one issue that you go, ah, this is great, win, lose or drone that segment? I always love it when John gets onto the great soy milk conspiracy. The soy milk conspiracy, I think we're a bit luckier that some of our soy is not quite as GMed here in Australia. Whenever Adam's going off on one of his pageants about the Dargate or the earthquake machine, the earthquake machine is always good. Looking for those whale strandings that let us know when there's an earthquake coming along. And you don't have to agree with it to enjoy it and to think about it. Absolutely not. And that's the whole thing. I think most of the mainstream media or the lamestream media is around trying to get all the people that have exactly the same thoughts and self-actualising their own ideas rather than having a discussion. It doesn't matter whether you agree or not, it's a discussion. You listened, you got hooked. What made you decide to become a knight of the no agenda armoury? I did my first donation. I thought, oh, I wanted to do a douchebag call out to my friend that had got me hooked, Mr Simon Alicia, who's still not

2:25:01 He's still not a knight, but he has become, he has deduced himself. So I thought, oh, if we're going to do that, I might as well go for an executive producership. Did the threes. 333 333 and then after that I thought I'll do it again and then once I'd done twice I thought well it's only just one more for a knighthood I should go for that. What do you do with the ring you got? Generally have it with me if it's not on my finger I've got it on a necklace. Have you punched anything with it just to see that it's the reverse when it comes out? I have I've actually used the original wax that I got and I've sealed a couple of letters with the wax. To the Australian Tax Department? It was, not on an official document to the ATO, but that's a good point, I should do that. Usually I lodge electronically, so it's a bit hard to do that. So it does look cool in reverse when you punch stuff? It does. It actually comes out very, very nicely. I was a bit dubious as to whether or not it'd look as good once you actually wax sealed something as it does on the ring, but it was very, very good. I definitely agree with the buzzkills idea that if you're not paying for the product, you are the product. If you're getting something for free,

2:26:04 like a big TV or a podcast or something and they're advertising to you, they're selling you to someone else. I really do think that what Adam and John are sort of doing is potentially the germ of an idea that could come into what is going to be our media in the future. You are directly paying for the media so that it's been tailored for the sort of stuff that you like rather than what the advertisers might want out of you. It's got the makings of something big and I'm very keen to be a part of that. Well, Sir Matthew, as someone who feels ownership of the program, is there something you'd like to see more of or something you'd like in the show or more of? Yeah, any comments? I actually find myself just completely satisfied with the show as it is. I wouldn't want it to be longer and I'm glad they dropped the idea of the third show because I don't know how I'd fit it into my week. If I had more than five hours of no agenda of a week, it's got its own variety within it. It's like there's

2:26:52 there's pretty much no topic that they don't discuss. It would be nice to see them do a Hot Pockets tour down under. Oh, wouldn't that be great? That would be good. All the different kinds of beer they could get stuck into. It could be. We can teach them that Australia isn't about fosters. And Dvorak could just get some of these Australian wines that he can't get at Costco? I'm across in Perth quite a bit for work and I've got to say that the boys keep saying they want to go there and they really should and the Margaret River's not very far from Perth. One last question, why do you think there aren't many female knights around the round table? Probably because of the technology link that gets most of the people into the show. I'd say, you know, JCD being a technology columnist and the Podfather himself being all things to RSS and podcasting. Most of us geeks and nerds out there, there tends to be a bit of a male bias to it.

2:27:41 Sir Matthew from Melbourne, thank you very much for chatting to us, thank you for your time and I hope I've inspired a few more people to think a bit more about being a Knight of the Round Table. I mean, what do you do with all your hookers and blow? I try and keep them away from my wife.