Episode 353 · Thursday, 3 November 2011

We Can't Wait

Global markets reel as Greece proposes a surprise referendum while the Obama administration utilizes executive orders to address pharmaceutical shortages and bypass a gridlocked Congress.

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Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou sparked global market volatility by announcing a national referendum on the European bailout package following a high-level visit to Washington D.C. This maneuver coincides with a new Greek law allowing a parliamentary committee to manipulate voter quorum requirements for matters of national importance. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke maintains that a financial firewall protects the United States from a total European collapse, despite evidence of U.S. collusion to weaken French banking interests.

President Obama launched the We Can't Wait initiative to bypass Congress via executive orders, specifically targeting cancer drug shortages and student loan reform. The FDA reports that 80% of pharmaceutical shortages result from manufacturing defects in injectables, including glass shards and fungal contamination. Meanwhile, KV Pharmaceuticals is exploiting the Orphan Drug Act to repatent existing compounds, raising prices from $30 to $30,000 per dose. In Libya, newly appointed Prime Minister Abdurahim El-Kib faces scrutiny over his ties to BP and Total through his leadership at the Petroleum Institute in Abu Dhabi.

Condoleezza Rice revealed a 2001 Shanghai summit incident where the presidential delegation feared botulinum toxin exposure, monitoring lab mice for survival. Michael Moore faced criticism at an Occupy Wall Street protest in Portland regarding his $50 million net worth and use of private jets. The episode concludes with a bizarre anecdote involving a liquor store owner and a mock sales pitch for a freckle penis during the 11/11/11 donation drive announcement.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

X-Factor Voting Manipulation, Producers Discretion

The hosts discuss fine print on the television show X-Factor indicating that producers can change voting results at their discretion if they suspect robo-dialing. Simon Cowell announced a second season for the show despite viewership numbers falling significantly below the 20 million viewers promised to advertisers.

x-factor· simon cowell· fox· voting fraud· robo-dialing

00:00 Sell your liver. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. Head stars in November 3rd, 2011. Time for your Get Mo' Nation Media assassination episode 353. This is no agenda. The mice are feet down here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the garbage is being taken out as we speak, I'm John C. Duvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Hey! Is garbage day? Same to you. We yeah, I know it's garbage day there on Thursday. It's garbage garbage Our garbage is Friday, and that's our show everybody and we'll be back again next week Trying to figure out the spreadsheet. It's all okay Why is Pelsen mockers thing? In the middle of nowhere right it's like huh, okay, so

01:01 In the morning to you John. In the morning to you, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air and anchors in the bay. And for those of you about to head east towards Texas, in the morning to you. Oh wait, that's myself. And in the morning to all the human resources lined up Energized, ready to go in the chat room. Noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com. Good to see everyone there. Ready to help us out with our live show, which we do every single Thursday and Sunday morning. And this of course is the best podcast in the universe! I wonder if we got any votes. I don't think so. I think we got some, you know. Yeah, we have all the people that can actually make bots. Yeah, it's funny. I was watching X-Factor last night.

01:50 Then you thought that was crap. It is. But I love to watch it with Miss Mickey because, you know, she gets in a really good mood and then I know I can get lucky later on. And at the very end there's these really, really teeny weensy letters that say that they're working with a consultant. I should have written down the exact text. They're working with a consultant and if they suspect any robo-dialing or mass texting going on then they can just change the vote. At will. Yeah, that's kind of what it says. At producers discretion. And Simon Cowell, the douche, he's like, I'm very happy to announce Fox has picked us up for next year, for the next season. Yeah, for all the make-do's you have to do. It's so obvious, the whole industry knows that they've totally failed on their numbers. They were supposed to, they sold advertising on 20 million viewers, they got like 11 per episode.

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Kardashian Divorce, Media Distraction, Brian Williams Anecdote

Speculation arises regarding the timing of Kim Kardashian's divorce as a potential government-requested distraction from global economic issues. The discussion critiques the lack of journalistic integrity among media figures like Matt Lauer and Brian Williams, noting their backgrounds in entertainment and comedy.

kim kardashian· herman cain· matt lauer· brian williams· today show

02:50 And so now they have to carry it over towards next year. Yeah, or give people their money back. Oh yeah, no we don't want to do that. But that doesn't matter John because the big news of course that there's only two stories that matter in Gitmo Nation United States of America's. Only two stories matter. One of course is that Herman Cain is a new Clarence Thomas. And the other of course is that Kim Kardashian is getting a divorce. No one else cares about anything else. That pretty much seems to be it. That's it in a nutshell. Do you think she's a member of the presidential slut squad and that she got the call? Like, hey Kimmy, Kimmy, listen up Kimmy. We got some real trouble in the world here. You know, we got like, you know, we got like Europe falling apart and we got, you know, all kinds of bad stuff. Could you, could you do something for us? Could you help us out with a little distraction? Let me think. Oh, I know. Why don't you get divorced?

03:50 It's in the script anyway, just move it up a little bit. Well it's definitely in the script, if you look at that couple. Yeah, well no, but the amazing... I think she should be marrying a midget. I just find it so amazing that people are now, hey man, do you think that was like fake? Really? They call it the showmance instead of the romance. I just love it. I think it was fake. It's like, wow, this is a national debate man. I think that maybe that was all fake. Like maybe that wasn't real, maybe it was just for ratings. Yeah, really? I see all even people I respect are talking about this. I think the best thing was said it was on the Today Show. They have this clone of like a Fox News panel and they have Matt Lauer and three other people uh yacking away about stuff. A black woman who's just

04:47 Very naive about these things and thinks everything's real Danny Donnie Deutsch who is a just a douche douche bag who thinks everything's fake isn't he the advertising executive? I think he was him maybe I'm wrong and then he had a show on one of the networks for a while and then Nancy Snyder man who's a doctor who seems to be the only sensible person on the whole thing and they brought this topic up and She concluded why are we even talking about this what this is? This whole thing is like which is not only obviously bullcrap, but why are we discussing it? It's just like giving it credence well for Matt Lauer I don't know if I told you my Matt Lauer story. He used to work at VH1. Do you know that no? Yeah? He was hosting videos at VH1 for about a month

05:31 And then somehow he got into NBC and worked his way up. They're not journalists. It's like who's the guy that does the nightly... Brian Williams? He was a stringer. I remember he interviewed my ex-wife about plastic surgery and he was hitting on her too. And now he's like the nightly news anchor. He's the guy come on So funny about him being the anchor is that he's also a he's a comedy wannabe He's always showing up on Jon Stewart and trying to be hilarious. Yeah, well of course cuz he's a douche anyway I did I listened to your little show over there with the Horowitz and

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Greece Referendum, George Papandreou, US Economic Firewall

Prime Minister George Papandreou of Greece, who has American ties, announced a referendum on the European bailout after a visit to Washington D.C. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke claimed the U.S. economy is firewalled against European collapse, suggesting potential U.S. collusion to weaken the Euro and French banks.

george papandreou· greece· ben bernanke· euro· federal reserve

06:18 Where I was kind of surprised when it was Tuesday so maybe it was hard for you guys to delve into it about what's happening with this referendum with Papandreou in Greece and you of course correctly said hmm this sounds suspicious. I'm like yeah okay I have delved in I think I've kind of figured it out do you have any theories on this yet? On the Papadreas thing, my basic thinking, I didn't jump into it so I have no real deep thoughts but I just think there's something, I think the US is somehow behind this. And I would back that up with Bernanke, I don't have this clip, I do have a Bernanke clip, but he had a long press conference on Wednesday.

07:05 and in there he did mention the fact that we have like firewalled the US economy yeah a little bit not to the point that we're not gonna get affected if this whole thing in Europe falls apart but it's firewalled enough so that we're somewhat protected from it from the worst-case scenario which I thought was a good thing do you want me to play the your clip or I don't have my clip okay I have a clip it's about something else okay well So just for those who aren't in the know, and you know, because you and I follow this and we watch a lot of horrible television and read a lot of boring reports so that people don't have to.

07:46 the Prime Minister of Greece, born in Minnesota, born and raised I think even in Minnesota. He is an American for all intents, I think he has a dual passport, but for all intents and purposes he's an American, who also traveled to Washington DC about a day and a half before he announced a referendum on the next bailout. and apparently the EU Parliament, I guess was it them or was it one of their subcommittees that took him to task I guess behind closed doors? Hey bitch what are you doing? What are you doing? You're trying to screw us here. You're on our side. So I think that indeed

08:30 uh... the united states is behind this uh... and it's we should get that clip of their bernanke saying that we're that were firewalled i think that i asserted earlier well on the last show i said this would be two weeks in this thing would come come crumbling down and you know and literally the day after the pop and really like screws everybody up by saying that you know i think i'm gonna let these people who are riding in the streets and were really really pissed off about this i think i'm gonna let them vote if we're gonna do this anymore with you guys So obviously everyone's like, oh no, what are you doing? Can't have a vote? No. So my assertion of course earlier was that this is probably being done by the United States on purpose to bring Europe down, which would be great, right? It's great for the dollar, it's good for imports from Europe if the euro starts to tank, which it certainly looks like it's on its way down.

09:25 $1.36, I think it might have popped up a little bit. But it was down from the $1.42 before the weekend, before all this happened. And so I'm like... We like it when it said 80 cents. Yeah, where it started and where it should be. So it only behooves the United States. And then of course, it's cool. And I think we might even be in collusion with the Germans. Because of course it's cool if the French go belly up. and the French banks are in real, real trouble. This whole European Stability Fund is all about saving the French banks first, and then of course there's Italy. Well, let's face it, no one really cares, you know, because the parties are over. No more bunga bunga from Berlusconi. That's all over. So, you know, we don't have anywhere to party with the guys. Who cares about Italy? And I'm like, how does this work? Why is he doing this? And it turns out that only 29 days ago,

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Greek Referendum Law, Quorum Manipulation, National Importance

A new Greek law passed 29 days ago allows a parliamentary committee to determine the quorum for referendums deemed of national importance. This legal change allows the Greek government to potentially rig the outcome of the bailout vote by controlling voter representation requirements.

greece· referendum· quorum· parliament· george papandreou

10:24 this referendum law was passed in Greece in the Greek Parliament. So this is always kind of a red flag when something changes so close to something, to a big announcement like this. And what's interesting about the new referendum law is there's various forms of a referendum. At the very end of this bill, I guess, I don't know if they call it that in Greece, is the following line translated As concerns referendums on issues of national importance, the quorum will be decided by the competent parliamentary committee.

11:08 It's no coincidence that Papandreou is talking about this referendum being of quote national importance. So he's automatically invoking this special kind of rule which and work through this with me John, he's saying that in order to if we have a national importance referendum then a special committee or competent parliamentary committee, which I guess is just a bunch of guys who say, yeah, we're competent. They can determine what the quorum is. And a quorum, I'll try and explain that, is when you have a vote, you have to have a certain number of people in order for the vote to be valid to represent the populace. So they could say, this is of national importance, we're doing the referendum tomorrow, only 50,000 people showed up, oh, that's okay, that's good. Correct?

12:03 JC just walked in and said the referenda has been cancelled. No, no, no, no, no. It has not been cancelled. He's, he's stopped reading BBC News, Buzzkill Jr. Stopped reading the chat room. Yeah, really, stop, please. So, so, so the way I see it. A quorum is, yeah, well there's usually actually, quorums are usually specifically defined. I don't know that at least in our democracy that you can say, you know, this one guy showed up, I call it a quorum. Yeah, but that's not our democracy, it's Greece's democracy. I don't know how they do it in Greece. It says it right here. If it's of national importance, the quorum will be decided by the competent parliamentary committee. So the parliamentary committee that deems itself competent is going to determine what a quorum is. The way I read that... Let's back up a second. Why would this be important in any way? Because if the public was actually given the opportunity, they're all going to vote no.

12:57 Well, thank you. This is the whole point. Because of this rule, Papandreou has complete control over the outcome. Because he can call any size at any time a quorum and say well hey look come on John Ireland How did they do that like you know everyone voted? No, then all of a sudden they all voted yes I mean come on that it's just a rigging system It's it's just a little little gotcha in there so that he knows that he can make it pass at any given moment and the people in the know know that he can do that as well, and I think that he was invoked by the US authorities to screw Europe, to bring him down, to possibly change the outcome for the US banks, but certainly screw the French banks and the Italians. And then he, not only does he get a ranch in Paraguay next to Bush Jr., but he looks like a hero because he said, hey, you know, the people voted. Oh, they voted yes because it was a special quorum, but sorry,

13:56 I think it's the most brilliant move anyone could do. And I tell you that if the referendum happens, which I believe it will, it will be a positive outcome. Because it's rigged. It's rigged? Yeah. Well, I don't think it needed to be rigged, but I guess it's insurance. For a positive outcome? Yeah, I think it would need to be rigged. I don't think anyone in Greece is like, yeah, thank you sir, can I have another? I don't think so. Well, you know, I mean we've always thought I mean ever since we had this we had a pop and Dario clip Probably over a year ago when when I think I played it for you trying to make you guess what the guy was from it was one of those things and then who turns out the guys like a Minnesotan and It's just like it's too loose. It's almost ludicrous if you think about it. I I do not put it best

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

European Market Instability, Falco Parody, Maastricht Treaty

The economic crisis puts pressure on Italian and French banks while leaders ignore the original Maastricht Treaty rules regarding debt-to-GDP ratios. A YouTube parody of Falco's music serves as propaganda criticizing George Papandreou's handling of the Greek bankruptcy.

sarkozy· berlusconi· maastricht treaty· gdp· falco

14:53 Passed the Bernanke and the Fed and whoever else and Merkel to be in collusion to screw the French. I'm not gonna argue the point. So apparently he's holding a speech right now. Screw the French. The Italians are the ones that are gonna take it in the shorts because they're next in line. And everybody's hated this Berlusconi character. I mean at least Sarkozy's playing the game. Well, what is this doing to the markets? You correctly pointed out on your unplugged show that if you knew you were going to say this, the first thing you do is bet on the market on the downside. And call up Soros while you're at it. Hey George, you better bet against that euro. I'm going to let a bomb out. I want a stink bomb coming up, buddy. It'd be funny to find out who was short the euro.

15:55 What big boys that is, not some phone head down the street. We'll never find out. Trying to find that clip of yours from Papandreou. I don't think I have it. That's pretty old. Yeah, well I have it somewhere but it hasn't shown up in the search. Anyway, so I'm thinking we're definitely going, if there is a vote, it's going to be yes. Go ahead, we'd like to take it up the butt one more time. and the end result will be the French banks are going to be in deep, deep crap and Italy's going down the tube. I think it's the Italian banks first and then the French, which puts pressure on the French to do something else. The French aren't going to take anything anywhere until the Italian, Italy goes down. Oh, I thought the French were a little more unstable.

16:52 They are, but that's being covered up completely because it's so important that nothing happened to the French banks. So it's gonna take two it's gonna take more than just Greece going down before France has a problem It's funny though because the propaganda is already all over the interwebs because of course the propaganda is oh you horrible man You're ruining our beautiful European Union. It's so good. We need to have this fantastic United States of Europe and And this is clearly German propaganda this little little cover song that popped up on the YouTube's He was the leader of the land barging on bankruptcy, cause when the euro came they went out on a spending spree, and still they're lending and spending and failing to reform, and everybody's screaming, come on, fuck you, Papa Andreu! Papa Andreu, Papa Andreu, Papa Andreu, Papa Andreu! That's nothing like a good Falco cover, you know? Come on, fuck you, Papa Andreu!

17:49 So why is that done in English if you know at all well Falco did all his tracks in English He did him in German and English as well. It's a cover. It's propaganda. Would you understand that it's mostly for us Would you have understood it if he said 50 out of 50 pop on the door? No, but I didn't even hear it in the first place. No, I wouldn't understand in German Man, it's great though. It's their own little reality show and it's fantastic. I love it. I It's just, it's extremely exciting to me to see all of this. And then it was like, oh he's gonna resign, no I'm not gonna resign. It's like, wow. I think you know, it's like somebody pointed out in one of the little discussions that there was a bunch of hearings on this in Congress and one of them pointed out that

18:38 You know, the fact of the matter is nobody, we brought this up on a clip last show or the show before, where nobody is following the original Maastricht Treaty, which says you can only, you have to have a certain balance sheet. 3%, your debt cannot exceed 3% of GDP. Yeah, and everyone has, and nobody There's not one country, possibly Germany, that actually went... No, no, no, no, the Germans were the first to break the rule. Oh, that's right, that's right, they even broke it. So there was as well, they can do it, we can do it, only we can do it better. Oh man, it's just fantastic. They can't even, you know, they set this thing up, they set up these rigid rules and then they can't keep the rules straight. Wait a minute, did you say fact of the matter? I think you did. I did not. I said the matter. I have like red lights now. Good. I'm only doing it for you because I know you hate to do it.

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

New York Times Editor, Jill Abramson, Puppy Diaries

Jill Abramson, the executive editor of the New York Times, appeared on C-SPAN to discuss her book, The Puppy Diaries. The hosts question the ethics of the New York Times providing a full-page favorable review for its own editor's book.

jill abramson· new york times· c-span· puppy diaries· media ethics

19:35 No, no, and in fact I don't like the buzzer. I'd rather have a bell. But when I get into a bad habit, I do like to have it broken. Even through humiliation. Did you see, did you wind up seeing the editor of the New York Times, Jill Abramson on C-SPAN? Did you wind up watching that? I don't think so. I watched the whole thing. Why? Because it's fun, and you know, I wanted to sit on the speaker. Like the old Howard Stern movie, and have her vibrate against my rectum. And of course the whole interview was nothing. There was one interesting little thing, now this is the new executive editor of the New York Times, the Ministry of Truth, who determines the direction of the story.

20:33 in the United States I think is fair to argue. Right, and we have determined she's a Berkeley hummer. You know she didn't go to Berkeley. No, but she's a Berkeley hummer. It's the only way to describe these people. Right. So half of the interview was about her book. And the other half was her humming. Did you know she had a book out? No, how does she have time? Let me this. How does she have time to write a book if she's got this job? This job is not some slouch job. You can just wander in when you feel like it. The book is called the puppy diaries. All right. This I know about this book. Not to mention she wrote a book about her puppy. I think was from the puppy's perspective.

21:17 I'm not sure. You know, darn it, I haven't read it yet. I've got to put it on my Amazon wish list. Maybe I can get her on the big book show to talk about it. That would be fun. I'd be like, hey, how are you doing? But of course, this is just whenever someone says, I know your viewers aren't going to believe this. That's pretty much a sign that people don't believe the crap that's coming out of your pie hole. Last Sunday when we're recording this there was a nice review on your book in the Times Review section written by Alexandra Styron who is I assume Bill Styron's daughter daughter has written a memoir What's the politics of something like this? We see it all the time in the times you wrote a book for the Times books and

22:09 Here it is, you're the executive editor and bingo, you get a big full page in the review. You know, it may be hard for your viewers to believe, but I had no idea whether either the Sunday book review or the daily book review was going to review the book until pretty recently. I knew before the reviews were published. How are we supposed to believe that the executive editor of the New York Times didn't know that the book page was going to review her book favorably? What kind of an editor is she? Yeah, really? I know your viewers will find this hard to believe. Well, you know what? Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? What? I find it hard to believe. Yeah, me too.

23:04 I find it very hard to believe. So I've been listening to these talk shows and I'm noticing Fox is the worst for using the term guess what. Oh really? And like everybody is that has become it's one of those things like the fact of the matter. Uh-huh. It's one of those things that has got into the milieu and it's like everybody is doing it. It's like they it's like you because you know you talk with somebody you start to pick up their cadence you use some of their phrases you'll start to use and everybody in Fox is peppering, within any two paragraphs there would be at least one guess what in there. Which is just a step away from what little kids say which is... You know? Yeah, or you know. It's basically guess what and you know what and you know what, guess what. It's all you know, you know. It's all very, it's ghetto. Any clips of that?

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Obama Executive Order, Drug Shortages, We Can't Wait

President Obama launched the "We Can't Wait" initiative, using executive orders to bypass Congress on issues like student loans and drug shortages. The administration claims a crisis in cancer medication availability, though critics suggest the move is a slow-rolling political maneuver.

barack obama· fda· executive order· drug shortages· ibm

24:04 No, I don't have that. Okay, because there is another meme that is becoming extremely irritating and that's we can't wait. This is this is President Obama's administration's new phrase. We can't wait. We can't wait. It sounds like it should be a commercial for a laxative. Well, he's using it quite inappropriately. and I've deconstructed one of his we can't wait initiatives because when the president says we can't wait that usually these days is followed by an executive order. Now we've seen this with the housing refinancing, we've seen this with the student loan bailout although you can wait until after he's re-elected which is the whole point of that. What a scam. And now it's about these so-called drug shortages.

24:51 And I looked into this because, you know, executive orders are my thing anyway. I love reading them and trying to figure out what it means and why it's being put in there. So he does a signing of this executive order in his office. And you have to see the video. It's quite funny. He's flanked by Sebelius from Health and Human Services by the FDA administrator. I don't remember her name, who has a horrible dress on with a big brooch. Then on on the outer edges We've got one guy who is a total shill and I have him a clip of him talking as well Now who works for IBM? He's a techno expert and he's a cancer survivor who needs his drugs. Otherwise, he will die and then on the other side there's a Pharmacist who just can't seem to get the drugs on time and

25:43 And the president is sitting there and he has a piece of paper next to his blotter, which you know, his writing blotter. And he's reading, literally reading what he's saying, keeps looking, it's like an impromptu teleprompter. And he keeps looking down, he doesn't even know these people's names and he looks down and he's like reading, he's like, and then we have Jay Guterrero over here. But listen to the setup for we can't wait. Sometimes we run out of or run low on certain types of drugs and that drives up prices and it increases patient risk.

26:21 Now, Nody says sometimes we run out or run low. He's not saying national crisis, horrible cancer patients are dying because there's no drugs. He's saying, you know, sometimes it's like runs low. It seems to be some kind of problem here. I've got a couple of people here beside me who have had to navigate this problem. Jay Katera knows what it's like in August. The center where he was receiving chemotherapy ran out of the drug being used to treat his cancer. And when that happens, you have pharmacy managers like Bonnie Fraud, who have to scramble to make sure that their patients can somehow find the life-saving medications that are necessary. So over the last five years, the number of these drug shortages has nearly tripled.

27:10 And even though the FDA has successfully prevented an actual crisis, this is one of those slow rolling problems that could end up resulting in disaster. Now very key here, he says this is one of these slow rolling problems that could wind up being a disaster. So it's not really a disaster at this point in time. He's saying, you know, this could be a problems and we gotta fix it so uh... which made me even more suspicious of an executive order we continue or patients healthcare facilities all across the country congress has been trying since february to do something about this it has not yet been able to get it done and it is the belief of this administration as well as folks like bonnie and jay that we can't wait okay so we can't wait

28:05 and Congress has been doing something. So I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna go figure out what has Congress been doing, what is this that we can't wait for that seems to be some kind of slow problem that needs a huge executive order. Let me just play 20 seconds of this guy who's Apparently his clinic ran out of his chemotherapy and he still seems to be very much alive. But he really, I mean this guy is a hired gun. Again, in the particular case of cancer patients, we can't wait because they can't wait for the chemo cocktails. I mean they need the drugs to be able to beat the cancer and to be able in many cases cure the cancer and if not cure the cancer, hopefully prolong life in a good quality manner. So we can't wait for these drugs to be back in high supply.

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Manufacturing, Injectable Defects, FDA Discretion

The FDA reports that 80% of drug shortages stem from manufacturing defects in injectables, including contamination with glass shards and fungal growth. A new executive order directs the FDA to use "discretionary regulation," which may allow lower safety standards to speed up vaccine and drug production.

fda· lipitor· vaccines· manufacturing· pharmaceuticals

28:50 So the guy is obviously very skilled at talking. I mean, this is not just some random dude. He's a sales guy from IBM. I tried to look at his LinkedIn to see if he would, maybe he was in the Watson sales department, I don't know. So I go look at this. Now, John, the supply shortage is not, as this executive order alludes to, is not because of companies not making it. All right? It's not like they're not interested in making it. Let's understand two things. At the end of this month, 11, count them, 11 big name drugs go out of patent. So this is a big hit for the pharmaceutical industry. And of course, one of the big ones is Lipitor, but that's not even that important. So this is a big hit. It's about the bottom line. Now, the president speaks specifically of five years ago

29:46 when is when these shortages started to happen. So what are what were we looking at five years ago on this very show? We were looking at the big bonanza of the pharmaceutical companies and all of their year-end reports and there's you know what they present to analysts at JP Morgan at the medical conferences vaccines are the way to go. What is the problem with this shortage and I'm reading from the FDA's very own document the problem is Because of the manufacturing of injectables, that is almost 80% of the problem. And the problem in the manufacturing of the injectables is not the medicine itself, it's with the injectables, you know, with the process of creating the containers.

30:35 So it says here, manufacturing quality defects that produce, that pose risk to patients and public health in general, inspection findings have been followed by shortages, have been serious in nature by glass shards, metal filings and fungal or other contamination in injectable products that must be sterile and pure to be safe for patients. So the problem is with their injectable manufacturing process and what Congress has been doing in February is trying to pass a bill that would put more people into the FDA to help move the manufacturing process along. What the FDA has now been given as a directive by the President of the United States by executive order is to use something called discretionary regulation.

31:22 I.e. be a little more flexible guys, just let the glass shard and everything through. Let the fungus in there, so what? Move it, move it! And this is about vaccines, this is about getting the vaccines into the market quicker because it's all about the injectables. And five years ago is when they started this. This is not about chemotherapy. This is about the man a lot of chemotherapy is injectable. Well, no, of course it is. That's why they're connecting it to it. But the problem is, is not as is implied. Oh, you know, they don't want to make it or, you know, there's not there's not enough approval process. Bullcrap. This is about the manufacturing process. These guys are trying to get the vaccines to the market so quickly that just their manufacturing sucks.

32:10 We've got fungal and glass shards and metal filings. I like the metal filings. Yeah. Hey, my arm itches. What happened? But it literally says, hey, my brain is swelling. Why is that magnet sticking to my arm? It literally states that the FDA's directive is now to let it slide. Let it slide. It's unbelievable. That's a good one. Yeah. Was it a shocker to you to get to the bottom of it? It was a shocker that I'm the only one getting to the bottom of it. Yeah, you would have thought... That is a shocker. You would have thought that... What's wrong with the public media? Someone besides a disc jockey. No, that's exactly what it is. I mean, it makes nothing but sense. We know how this operates. Obama does what the pharmaceutical companies tell him to do.

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Orphan Drug Act, KV Pharmaceuticals, Price Gouging

The Orphan Drug Act is being exploited by companies like KV Pharmaceuticals to repatent old, cheap compounds and raise prices from $30 to $30,000. The FDA is criticized for allowing patent exclusivity on existing drugs and failing to protect the public from corporate monopolies.

orphan drug act· kv pharmaceuticals· fda· patents· thalidomide

32:57 I mean, I have a clip from this, Democracy Now had this woman on who did a book called Deadly Monopoly, which goes after the pharmaceutical companies for being just a bunch of douchebags. And there was two or three little tidbits in there. She was on way too long. It's one of those long interviews that Democracy Now does when they don't feel like actually covering any news. So they do a whole show, Charlie Rose style show. And I don't know if I have any good clips here that would really be appropriate, but there's a couple of things they've allowed like this new law that was passed recently on orphan drugs where this is a little tidbit on here, but let me explain it. Orphan drug law came about because there's some old compounds that go back to the turn of the century, 1800.

33:49 And they're still manufactured, but they're made by manufacturing pharmacies. There's a lot of pharmacies that can still take raw materials and grind up the stuff in a mortar and then put it in a pill and give it to you. Well, it turns out that they've changed, they've decided that on some of these so-called orphan drugs, which are drugs that aren't really in, they're not being manufactured anymore, they have to be individually made. that they'll allow a drug company to repatent them from scratch. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And then pull the plug and the example she uses is one that I guess is some simple thing for women to have trouble delivering babies or something and there's just simple drug that they take it costs like

34:34 $30 for the entire, uh, uh, to, you know, for a whole week of it. If you, if you make it by hand, but they repatented it now, they won't let the $300 make money. Now it's $300,000. It's not even close. Are you sure it's not 33,000 just to throw it in our face? It may actually might've been, there's something like that, but why don't you play this clip? This one is old products. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. The Orphan Drug Act, that's what I found fascinating. A private corporation, KB Pharmaceuticals, got FBA approval to test it and to patent it. Now this, you know... Explain what the Orphan Drug Act is. The Orphan Drug Act was intended to give

35:20 give incentive to corporations to test and patent and market drugs that for diseases affected less than 200,000 people. They normally wouldn't be profitable enough for a company to be interested, but the FDA said, under this act, we'll give you seven years of patent exclusivity so that you can make some money. And also you'll be addressing a need by a minority of Americans. Sounds really great. It is really great actually on the surface, but this kind of use I find really unfortunate. So KV Pharmaceuticals used that act. to patent the Kina. Now it sells the exact same drug, 17P, but it doesn't cost $30. It costs $30,000 for a course of the drug. So it raised the price very high and it not only, then to want to step further, it sent letters to the compounding pharmacies warning them they had to stop making the drug because KB held the patent. If they kept making the cheap version of the drug, the FDA would shut them down.

36:19 Yeah, well there's another thing that goes along with this and that's also a part of this, what they call enforcement discretion is the way it's described in this document from the FDA. There's also approximately 400 UDIs UDIs are drugs that essentially the FDA has not approved. They've done no testing on but they carefully weigh the overall benefits versus the risks. So they're not actually testing the stuff. They're just saying yeah you know we think that's gonna be okay. 400. According to this book this woman says thalidomide's been reintroduced into the market.

37:01 and there's a whole bunch, I mean wasn't the FDA put together to protect us? The public. Against metal filings. Not to protect the drug companies? We need more metal filings. This is good. It's not a problem, it's just a metal filing. What's your problem with that? So the MRI may be a little weird. You know your arm will fly against the side of the wall. Yeah, so Congress I believe has actually been You know, of course, everyone's co-opted and bought by the pharmaceuticals. So they've been trying to figure out how do we help these guys? And the president just swoops in, says, hey, you know what? Let these guys go. Come on. We've got to ease them. Use some discretionary enforcement so that, you know, we can get these vaccines in and we'll get some cancer drugs. Hey, darling, how are you doing? Another disgusting story. Hold on a second. Can we talk? Are you OK? Yeah. All right. Did you get any metal filings?

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Show Schedule Change, San Francisco Benefit

The hosts announce that the next episode will be moved to Monday morning instead of Sunday. This change is due to travel for a children's benefit event in San Francisco and concerns over poor hotel internet connectivity.

san francisco· podcast schedule· hotel wifi· gala event

38:03 No? Hey, we're doing a show here. Yeah, well she had a thing. I had to talk to her about that. I'm sorry. Could have put it off. I mean the show, we could have put the show off. Yeah, we could have halted the entire show. Anyway... Yeah, aren't you leaving like after the show? No, no, no, this next week. Oh, I thought it was this week. Yeah, no, next week. Although I did want to discuss something with you and our listeners. Oh, by the way, I'm looking at my notes and this fox is saying, you know what, not guess what. Oh, you know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? Hey, you know what, John? You know what? You know what? You know what? So tomorrow we leave for San Francisco. We do our annual hosting for this benefit thing for kids.

38:44 And here's what I'd like to suggest. We have to do the show from the hotel. Well, I'd like to suggest we do the show Monday morning. Because, you know, I look at the amount of work that goes into stuff and like, why would we do a subpar show just to have it, you know, sure there's a thousand people that listen. That's what I've been asking all these years. Right on cue. Would it be okay to do it Monday morning so that, you know... So I'm really prepared and not just like it because it last blasted back at the home studio. Yeah, can you believe him? So in other words instead of doing the show on Sunday we do it Monday morning leave on Sunday and get back home Yeah, and work on the show and then we do it Monday morning, correct, correct? Yeah, it's fine with me because you remember last year we did it from there and it was like it was one of the most horrible shows and the connectivity sucked and

39:37 You know I couldn't do the research because you know it's like a big gala event is you know it's it's it's tiring No, I think Monday morning's fine. I think most people can put up with that okay. Yeah, we've shifted the show any a time Yeah, well we've done pretty well recently and you've you've gone above and beyond But I know the infrastructure in these hotels in San Francisco sucks so bad I mean you were in Brazil you had a studio you know I don't have a studio and I certainly don't want to come to your place, but more importantly I want to be able to do the work. Yeah, no, I think Monday morning is fine. I'm more for these changes than you are. Okay, it's settled. And this concludes our meeting. Done. Did we get any help from anyone today? Yeah, we did. We got a... some people picked up the ball. And let's name... we have three executive producers and an associate.

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Palindrome Week, Karma Requests

Donors James Howard, Dirk Maudreau, and Steven von Pelsmacher contribute significant amounts during "palindrome week." The hosts discuss the significance of dates like 11/11/11 and the karmic value of specific donation amounts.

paypal· western australia· belgium· palindromes· donations

40:29 and we'll list them off. James Howard in Indiana... I've had trouble with a couple words recently, it's concerning me. Indianapolis, Indiana. Maybe it's a metal filing somewhere in your bloodstream. In the morning, gentlemen, John didn't believe it was me when I sent a check so what the hell, I'll donate again. I want that ring, mofo, shoot me some karma. I'm trying to find his actual... Email you've got karma. I definitely needed to balance out the contribution. I'm making to the evil Empire of PayPal. I don't know

41:07 It can it can match the karma of 11 11 11 11 11 But I thought three six nine was a pretty good number. Please put my credit on show three six nine. No Okay, yeah, we'll try to do that go back. No I can do it It's kind of hard to rebake it into everyone's mp3 file but all right and remember to note the karmic potentials we get closer hail the foot you Dirk Maudreau from Joondalup, Western Australia. It appears ever since I asked you for karma the share market has been going my way. Down? Irrespective to John's shorts.

41:46 Referring when he says my shorts, he's not talking about my underwear. Politicians are douchebags. Mr. Vodka is my friend tonight, so in the morning to the USA may the Greeks accept what is given so they may might have to retire at 60, just as we do at 65 it stinks. I think he's been on the Vodka a little bit before he wrote this note. He's like, I'm just reading it the way he's written it. This is actually a very good precedent. I suggest everyone sell shares with a profit. So please some karma for the world or me. Give him some karma. I love this. You've got karma. I think every show will keep up the good work and throw a lobster on the barbecue in Camp Mofo. None of that shrimp crap. I think it's good that people get drunk before donating. This is a very good idea.

42:39 354.33. Thanks James. And then buried down here we have a Steven von Pelsmacher from Belgium, the owner of Belgium actually. Oh the baron, yeah. 336.33 a palindrome which is a reflection of, by the way this is palindrome week. That's right. So we have 11 311 for example from Robert Diggle will mention later, but but Pell's mockers got a kind of a tripled up palindrome of one one 2-1-1 for the date of November 2nd, but he's tripled it to make it 3-3-6-3-3. Love that. And there's a bunch of palindromes coming our way. There's 11-4-11, 11-5-11, and these palindromes continue, and the last palindrome we're going to be able to see, I believe, is going to be 12-21-12.

43:36 1221 that could be yeah and uh there's a but there's a few of them but we'll i think i'll put them we'll isolate them and put them in a note so it is nice to see that and we'll be talking about them later a lot of people went for the 1111 karma for 1111 which was uh two days ago monday so that that that's uh that's a big karma day and i think and i appreciate the help on that that's fantastic and so uh meanwhile we have one more associate executive producer gene Naftali of from Frisco, Texas John mentioned that karma expires after one week Yeah, that's right. He's that on the USC football game And I and we're studying this by the way, and I still need some being unemployed so I'm sending in another donation I've enjoyed shaking my head in disagreement with JCD since the Mac user days in the 80s when he had the back page column and

44:28 And he's donated another palindrome, $202.02. Wow. So it's palindrome day here on the NOA Agenda Show. That's right everybody, palindrome. Palindrome week, palindrome month. We want to thank these executive producers and everyone else who's obviously contributed what we'll talk about later in the show. And remind everyone to go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org, slash NA, channeldvorak.com, slash NA, and Channel Dvorak's RSS feeds were screwed up, they seem to be fixed. So you can check that out also, noagendanation.com where you can click the donation button or buy a slave t-shirt. And I was very galled by the way I was watching the BBC and they were on in New York at one of the, you know,

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda PR, Domain Forwards, Roku Channel

Producers have registered various domains like "againstthenewworldorder.com" to forward traffic to the show. The No Agenda Roku channel has reached 3,000 installs, providing access to the live stream and an archive of back episodes.

roku· biometric passport· carbon credits· absolute fuels llc· domains

45:15 protest things and somebody was standing there yakking away at the at the at the for at the correspondent with the whole doing the stand-up wearing a democracy now t-shirt oh I just said oh look at this what is wrong with you know what can we don't have something like that going on the slave thing and so next time you're really hammered you're like I like it a vodka Remember this. Devorak.org slash N-A. Devorak.org slash N-A. I gotta send something to those guys. It might work, John. And let me write a note. Let me explain why.

46:00 We have a couple of PR initiatives worth mentioning. Raymond from Gitmo Nation Lowlands has registered a number of domain names that are forwarding to noagendannation.com. He has againstthenewworldorder.com, this is Dutch, biometrischpassport.nl. This is the new biometric passport that is being cranked up around Gitmo Nation Europe. So now when you want to have information about the biometric passport in your own home country of the lowlands, you'll wind up at noageneration.com and you'll probably go, hey that's interesting. Codexfree.com, codexfreefood.com and velnus.nl which means this is news dot nl. So we appreciate those forwards Raymond. This is a kind of a

46:48 Simple one but very effective don't tase me drone calm subdue dot me beat the drone calm which should be a new game show beat the drone calm and One of our producers John has been all over this Brewing scandal, which I think will come to the forefront Hopefully pretty soon absolute fuels LLC calm. This is a company that was raided recently I think it's in like I don't know if it's Ohio or someplace like that. And apparently the guy was, you know, scammed $40 million of carbon credits from the government by pretending to make biofuel.

47:29 And he had a Rolls Royce and a Ferrari and a jet and all kinds of great stuff and the name of the company is Absolute Fuels LLC. So if this does come to the forefront, this is great. So then we're ready and people will start Googling about Absolute Fuels LLC and they'll show up and they'll say, hey, what is this? That's interesting. The No Agenda Roku channel, which is now in the official Roku channel guide as of yesterday has 3000 installs. Thought that was pretty good. That's not bad considering. It's pretty obscure. Yeah, it's a I thought it was a reasonably obscure device But yeah there you go and the Roku is the favorite of the of the nerds Yeah, and it has not only all back episodes with the album art You can also listen to the stream live and then finally this is probably the best one for that work what I mean how do you

48:25 About to go look at it. I can't figure out what do you mean? How does it work? I mean, it's just not just You installed it. How do they make it work? I mean you click on something you get a big list of all the back Yeah, yeah, yeah back shows with a you can click on something else and you get the live Yeah, so it's no it's really nice you you for you to have you played with it. Yeah. Yeah, I did I was even on the beta are you kidding me? Yeah, so first you install it from the channel guide you just search for no agenda and Or you go to online radio. It's right in there It's not a huge list that they have you click on that it installs it and then you go into it has like 2000 it has archive shows 2011 or 2010 it goes back and you click on that and then you have Icons of every every single piece of album art you click on that it goes in you see a full screen and it says play and then it plays or if you go back to the top menu you can play the live stream It's great. All it needs is a bat signal that your Roku just starts yelling at you now

49:21 What's the where's the Back catalog stored. Oh, it's just pulling from the RSS feed dude. Oh, it's pulling from them from the yeah It's pulling from our servers. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's cool. It's it's so it costs us money actually it's a great system Finally, thanks to Steve Thompson for registering DrunkRickPerry.com, which I think is very appropriate. Did you see that? Did you see Rick Perry? Yeah, we blogged it actually. We have a copy of that clip. Everyone was on it. It seemed like he was looped.

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Rick Perry, DrunkRickPerry.com, Podcast Awards

A new website, DrunkRickPerry.com, was created following a viral video of the Texas Governor appearing intoxicated or impaired during a speech. The hosts also mention the upcoming Podcast Awards and the lack of a physical prize.

rick perry· john stewart· adderall· podcast awards

48:25 About to go look at it. I can't figure out what do you mean? How does it work? I mean, it's just not just You installed it. How do they make it work? I mean you click on something you get a big list of all the back Yeah, yeah, yeah back shows with a you can click on something else and you get the live Yeah, so it's no it's really nice you you for you to have you played with it. Yeah. Yeah, I did I was even on the beta are you kidding me? Yeah, so first you install it from the channel guide you just search for no agenda and Or you go to online radio. It's right in there It's not a huge list that they have you click on that it installs it and then you go into it has like 2000 it has archive shows 2011 or 2010 it goes back and you click on that and then you have Icons of every every single piece of album art you click on that it goes in you see a full screen and it says play and then it plays or if you go back to the top menu you can play the live stream It's great. All it needs is a bat signal that your Roku just starts yelling at you now

49:21 What's the where's the Back catalog stored. Oh, it's just pulling from the RSS feed dude. Oh, it's pulling from them from the yeah It's pulling from our servers. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's cool. It's it's so it costs us money actually it's a great system Finally, thanks to Steve Thompson for registering DrunkRickPerry.com, which I think is very appropriate. Did you see that? Did you see Rick Perry? Yeah, we blogged it actually. We have a copy of that clip. Everyone was on it. It seemed like he was looped.

49:56 In fact, John Stewart had the best line. He says, you know, this is obviously, you see one of two, the Rick Perry's, he's either hammered or he's not, but they couldn't figure out whether this was him being hammered or whether it was him when he's really serious and fumbling. I'm pretty sure he was hammered. Seems like he was having a good time. But it doesn't seem, it didn't look like an alcohol hammering. I think he's on the ganja or something. No, it didn't look like he was on ganja. I'm an expert. I'm reliably informed. Not on the ganja. No, I think he was just a little... Well, he wasn't really slurring, you're right. Maybe it was like Adderall or something.

50:35 Benny's Anyway, thank you all very much for for your contributions to the no agenda show tomorrow Of course, we'll find out if we truly are the best podcast in the universe according to the podcast awards for which there's no award if we win, which is kind of sad, but There's bragging rights. Yeah, that's true. And of course, you can always go out and propagate our formula formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth news everybody roll it out slave cool let's see a lot of stuff going on I got a couple offbeat things yeah rock and roll baby rock and roll so I'm watching the sea I'm watching the sea spans and this and they hold on one second hold on one second what we do don't have to

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

G20 Summit, Food Security, Haiku Herman

World leaders gathered in Cannes for the G20 summit, where President Sarkozy placed food security and commodity price volatility on the agenda. Critics view the focus on "transparency of food stocks" as a move toward global control via Codex Alimentarius.

g20· cannes· sarkozy· codex alimentarius· bill gates

51:41 Just gotta remind everybody, it's what we do so you don't have to. So there was a little, there's this guy in the BBC, go right from the C-SPAN to the BBC. Yeah. You know the G20, I don't know if you saw the G20 rollout, they got the G20 happening. They're in Cannes. They're living it up. Let's go to the most expensive place in the world and live it up. Well you know why? That's so that everyone can park their yacht. It's handy. They've got a nice airport. Yeah, they do. The food is great and the hotels are expensive. It's a little chilly this time of year. There's no beach babes. But there's lots of hookers there. They have kind of a red carpet. Kind of. Did you see this? Yeah, kind of. They have a red carpet. And they have the place where you stop and have your photos taken by... Sarkozy, move over here. Sarkozy, Sarkozy, look over here. Look, look, look, look.

52:31 And so they're shooting pictures like crazy and The guy stands Jerry like it like him. Yeah, well who are these people kidding? Why don't they just go into the meeting and do your meeting already? What is this this these photo op because they're the elites they love it they get off on it They all think they're in show business they cut out the big limo and they stand there and pose show business for ugly people So anyway, they love it. This is a key point John. It's a key point that they have the red carpet, the velvet rope in front of the red carpet because you know don't pass across that and all they need is they need to you know when they stand in front of the photo op it should be like advertising in the background.

53:14 You know, whoever sponsored Rolex. Well, this kind of advertisement is G20. It's just a Rolex and, you know, stuff like Bentley. A bunch of pharmaceutical companies. Pfizer. Pfizer. So the guy's going on analyzing some guy named Dan Price out of Chicago who follows the economics of these things and he drops this little bomb which I thought was What is the this is going to be a topic of conversation why on China with respect to you want appreciation The last bucket, and this is a very important topic, deals with food security. Put on the agenda rightly by President Sarkozy, it deals with measures that can be taken to address volatility of commodity prices and shortage of supplies. Up for discussion, a prohibition on export restraints on foodstuff, as well as measures to increase the transparency of the food stocks of producing nations.

54:13 Oh, well that's obviously a message. It's like shut up slaves or we're gonna take your food away. I guess. Yeah, that's what it is. I mean, it's like what is this? Well, this is partially Codex Alimentarius, obviously. Food security, that's what the whole Codex is about. But, oh yeah, this to me is like shut up, shut up or we're gonna take your food away. You gotta grow your own if you wanna eat. Oh yeah, the G20 thing. There's not enough coming. Although on EU.int, Haiku Herman has his own page, the president's page, and he has videos. And he's got a team that just adores the man. And they put up videos of him walking the red carpet. There's not a word that's said. It's called, you know, like, what is the name of the video? It's like, you know...

55:09 The vibe, you know, here's what the vibe was like when the president arrived and he's just walking up and taking pictures. Complete egomaniac. What a character. So I guess Bill Gates is gonna speak at this thing about something or other? Of course, he's a part of the elite and he's probably got a nice boat, if not a nice plane. Well he's got a G5. No, it's just a bunch of elitist pricks hanging out telling y'all what's gonna happen. Shut up. This is how I do it. It's how we roll. You got nothing to say. It's part of how it goes, right? It's part of the cycle. Yeah, well, one of these days, you know, there's something bad's gonna happen in one of these things and we'll see what happens after that. Well, speaking of elites then, let's do a couple of elite clips. Paul Volcker was on Charlie Rose.

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Paul Volcker, Charlie Rose, Condoleezza Rice

Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker appeared on Charlie Rose, where he discussed the radical change in income distribution over the last 15 years. Meanwhile, Condoleezza Rice is promoting her book, with media coverage focusing on Muammar Gaddafi's obsession with her.

paul volcker· charlie rose· condoleezza rice· income distribution· gaddafi

56:09 Paul Volcker, former chairman of the Federal Reserve. and was also on Obama's economic advisory board for a while. I don't think he's on there anymore. It was kind of interesting, his body language, I'm not quite sure what it says, but he was leaning so far to the left that he was almost at a 90 degree angle when he was talking. I love that. What does that mean? I mean, literally like all the way to almost perpendicular to the table. What does that mean? Was there anybody sitting next to him? Nope. No one was next to him, it was just him and Charlie Rose. So he was just straight across and Rose leaning? Yeah, not leaning, like falling over. He had to put his arm under his head to keep his head from falling off his shoulders I guess. It was at a 90 degree angle. It was really weird.

56:59 And I don't know what it means. I don't know what that means. I did I was looking at some body language stuff over the last week to figure out a couple of He was trying to fart okay, I'll buy that I'll buy that But I caught something which is very very subtle and I caught him literally laughing about the slaves and about, you know, the big money wealth transfer. Maybe I'm wrong, but to me it came across as really like they're like, yeah. There is underway in this country, in this city and around the world, this developing protest. What do you make of it? What do you make of it? People are unhappy.

57:49 The protest itself doesn't seem to be totally coherent, but there is a feeling, which I'm a little surprised has not been expressed more forcibly before, of the distribution of income, which has changed very radically in the last 10 or 15 years. And you have a situation in the United States where there's been almost no growth in real income for the average family for 10 or 15 years, but way at the upper end of the income distribution there's been an enormous increase. Okay, didn't take place in my lifetime or even in your life It's unbelievable We didn't get all that money Yeah, that seems almost unbelievable. You look at the church. The only thing that came close to it is 1928 1929 oh this is a meme right, but then he laughs about it George what happened in 19th?

58:46 When we screwed everybody. Yeah, it is a meme. But it was kind of evil of him to laugh about it. Am I off-center on that? It just felt like, wow, really? Well, if he's leaning over that far, God knows what's going on. Maybe he had some metal filings in his vaccine, who knows? And then Condi Rice is out there promoting her book, which I definitely want to read. Because you know this is going to be the ministry of truth. And the only thing the news media talks about is how Gaddafi wanted to bone her. It's like, oh Gaddafi, tell me about that. Tell me about how Gaddafi made a music video. Jon Stewart did the same thing. Yeah, because that's all people talk about.

59:27 And she was on the Jon Stewart show and they cut out like 10 minutes of the interview and it's like he does that thing all the time. He puts in the dumb jokes and then the rest of the interview they have to go back to the web. And he'll sit there really apologetically like, sorry, you know, it's like, fuck you, Stewart, sorry. Yeah, you could do a tight interview and get it over with instead of this bullcrap trying to guide people to the web. I find it offensive. Me too. And the interviews, and why did they, he's done this a number of times now, it's always with some important person as though he's being told to put them on. He does, normally the way the show is structured, he does one comedy segment at the beginning, then he does a second segment that may or may not involve

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

White House Botulism Scare, Mice Feet Down, Shanghai Summit

Condoleezza Rice recounted a 2001 incident in Shanghai where Vice President Dick Cheney informed the presidential delegation they may have been exposed to botulinum toxin. The group waited 24 hours for test results, using the status of lab mice—"feet up" or "feet down"—to determine if they would survive.

condoleezza rice· george w. bush· dick cheney· botulism· shanghai

58:46 When we screwed everybody. Yeah, it is a meme. But it was kind of evil of him to laugh about it. Am I off-center on that? It just felt like, wow, really? Well, if he's leaning over that far, God knows what's going on. Maybe he had some metal filings in his vaccine, who knows? And then Condi Rice is out there promoting her book, which I definitely want to read. Because you know this is going to be the ministry of truth. And the only thing the news media talks about is how Gaddafi wanted to bone her. It's like, oh Gaddafi, tell me about that. Tell me about how Gaddafi made a music video. Jon Stewart did the same thing. Yeah, because that's all people talk about.

59:27 And she was on the Jon Stewart show and they cut out like 10 minutes of the interview and it's like he does that thing all the time. He puts in the dumb jokes and then the rest of the interview they have to go back to the web. And he'll sit there really apologetically like, sorry, you know, it's like, fuck you, Stewart, sorry. Yeah, you could do a tight interview and get it over with instead of this bullcrap trying to guide people to the web. I find it offensive. Me too. And the interviews, and why did they, he's done this a number of times now, it's always with some important person as though he's being told to put them on. He does, normally the way the show is structured, he does one comedy segment at the beginning, then he does a second segment that may or may not involve

1:00:05 one of the other guys, one of the other actors. And then they go through the interview which is usually about five six minutes. But then once in a while they do the comedy segment at the beginning and then the interview starts and it goes on for the 20 minutes of the show. Yeah but not when it's someone who might... And then they cut out chunks of it. Yeah. And it's boring. It's boring and it's insulting to the viewer. So the clip I have here is from Condi Rice on, what's the ABC show? I don't know, Nightline, I think. And George Stephanopoulos is interviewing her. And she comes out with this amazing story.

1:00:49 which I was like wow really? It was October 2001 President Bush had just arrived in China for a summit meeting. We were in Shanghai actually when the vice president came on the screen and said that the White House detectors had detected botulinum toxin and we were all those of us who exposed were gonna die. He said that? Yes he said that. Can you imagine Cheney coming on the video screen? You're going to die. Hey, you've got botulism, snotulism, you're gonna die. And I remember everybody just sort of freezing and the president saying, what was that? What was that? Including the president? Including the president because the exposure time would have meant that we were all exposed. Rice's deputy said they'd run tests, but that would take 24 hours. He said, let me put it this way, if the mice are feet

1:01:43 we're toast. If the mice are feet down, we're fine. That's how they test it. If the mice are feet up, you're toast and if the mice are feet down, you're fine. That's our government. So wait, let me just get this right. Here's how it works. Cheney is like, I'm in the bunker but you're gonna die. But if the mice are feet up, you're toast. The mice are feed down, you okay? Wait a second, for 24 hours we didn't know if the president had been poisoned? For 24 hours we were in Shanghai. We did not know the result of those tests. About noon the next day at a lunch in China, I got to him on the phone, he said the mice are feed down. I went back to the president and I said, the mice are feed down. How does that work? Can't you like test someone?

1:02:35 You know we have to like put the mouse, were there like mice running around the White House and if they died then... What is that? Further elaboration. It does, it does. It really does. And maybe... How were they exposed to botulism in the first place? Was that answered? No. And of course not. That would be like interesting. But how... did this put the entire delegation on the wrong foot while Cheney was doing stuff back home? That would be my first question. I would think it would be disturbing. If I'm like in negotiations with someone or talking to somebody having these kinds of meetings and somebody told me this, you're gonna die. It would screw me up. Yeah, if you're in China trying to do something, yeah, I think we'd probably be like, well, first of all, I'd be like, bring on the hookers. I'm gonna live it up before I go. But second of all, waiting for the... Yeah, no, this is not, this is not, needs more elaboration. The mice were feet down. Really?

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Zombie Memes, Mind-Controlling Fungus, CDC

The media is saturated with zombie-related stories, including reports of "zombie worms" in Italy and a "mind-controlling fungus" affecting flies in Washington D.C. The hosts suggest these stories are part of a cultural conditioning effort or promotion for the TV show The Walking Dead.

zombies· cdc· npr· walking dead· washington dc

1:03:38 It sounds like, you know, that Chaney guy. The guys that walk in, I mean, it's ridiculous. He's, you know, this, he's a zombie for one thing, which bothers me. Oh, when did I put in the red book that you said it was going to be vampires and I said no, zombies is the meme? This you said that pre-read book. Oh is it pre-read book? So that's how long ago it was Yeah, it's a long time ago. Okay, so just this week alone BBC reports Traces of bone-eating zombie worms have been found in a three million year old fossil from Italy Then we have the exercise in this is Ohio They did a zombie outbreak exercise

1:04:26 Hold on a second, I should bring that story up. But then NPR jumps on the bandwagon and this is... This has me actually mildly concerned. Tomorrow night, vampires and witches and ghouls will roam America's neighborhoods and I for one am hoping they will behave when they arrive to my house. Shut up, douchebag. In the midst of all the Halloween revelry, there is actually the possibility that you might run into zombies, real ones. Supreme Benisher, a report... This is your national treasure. Hey, just so you know, you might run into real zombies. ...for a member station WAMU here in Washington explains. A few months ago, something terrible happened to millions of flies around Washington, D.C. We were getting literally hundreds of reports of these crazy dead flies everywhere on vegetation, on signposts. Mike Raupp is an entomologist at the University of Maryland. He says the flies were attacked by a fungus, a mind-controlling fungus. Does it get any better than this? A mind-controlling fungus and it's in Washington, D.C.? Not kidding.

1:05:26 It basically zombie-izes them. It manipulates their behavior. The fly moves to a high point, let's say the tip of a blade of grass, the terminal of a leaf. Then the fly freezes up and the fungus spews more mind-controlling spores into the wind. Now, does any of this sound familiar? You see, their young enter through the ears. What are you saying? I got one of those parasites in me? Invasion of the body snatchers. But forget Hollywood, okay? Here's a horror film for you. It's actually playing on a laptop in front of Mike Raupp. Yeah, alright, so this goes on and on. But they're actually reporting on zombie worms. I mean, this...

1:06:08 It's not funny anymore, okay? The CDC has like been a big joke and it keeps on going, of course it's all to promote Walking Dead, which I follow it and I watch it with the kids because they think it's hilarious. It's really bad. It's horribly produced. The acting is sub-sub-par. It's just a piece of crap. but has this cult following. So I'm sure in a way to promote AMC like anyone would care about that channel. But it's not okay anymore. Stop joking about zombies. Now we have zombie flies with mind-controlling worms in them. Really? Fungus. Yeah, mind-controlling fungus. And in Washington, hello? What's this? Yeah, almost some sort of a metaphor. Well, you know, a metaphor or maybe they've been infected.

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Donald Trump, Steak Dinners, Oil Prices

Donald Trump appeared on Greta Van Susteren's show to criticize the U.S. government's relationship with China. Trump repeatedly complained about the White House hosting "steak dinners" for foreign leaders while the U.S. economy suffers.

donald trump· greta van susteren· china· oil prices· steak

1:07:00 I don't know. I, you know, I'm worried about this kind of jokery and now it's on our national treasure. Yeah, well the national treasure stinks. Yeah, that's true. All right, well let's see what else we got. I got a, let's see here, there's Trump. Oh boy. This idiot Trump is back in the news because he did, you know, he's defending Herman Cain and he's making a big stink about it. He's doing his, so he shows up on Greta Van Susteren. Now I want to see if you can find a theme here. That's Gretchen to you. Gretchen. Thumbstrum. He's on there with his classic Trump blather, but he seems to have a, literally, a beef if you play Trump 1. 2011, 2012, 2013 and significantly increased its unemployment rate forecast. Both grim news. Wow.

1:08:01 Well, you know I'm not surprised because I've been on your show for years now and I've been saying you cannot create a strong economy if China and other countries continuously take your jobs, make your products, manipulate their currencies, and do all of the things they're doing, and then we hold dinners at the White House, state dinners at the White House for the President of China. So I'm not surprised at all. I've been telling you this is going to happen. The news came out today and I think it's an absolute disaster for this country. Is that is that in this clip that I missed that yeah, you play the very end you hear dinners You say steak dinners you listen carefully 2012 told I got it has to queue up again. I want to listen to the steak dinner hold on well Sounds like a little like state, but I'm telling you it's steak yeah for some reason I can't shuttle forward maybe if I oh here it is hold on a second

1:09:11 Steak. Stupid Donald Trump, what a douchebag. Hold on. So I'm not surprised at all. I've been telling you. No, it's back, it's before that, right? No, it's after that. Oh doing and then we hold dinners at the White House state dinners at the White House steak dinners That's what he said, right? Yeah steak dinners. Yeah, he said so I think what is this guy's he's hung up on steak dinners another five or ten minutes go by and then he Played Trump to he brings it up again. The other element is up back every time a little bit of good news good news is mentioned they raise the price of oil and that you know what was actually more important in my opinion that interest rates they raise the price price of oil it's just like sucking the blood out of this country and nobody does anything about it except hold state dinners for these people and drop down and kiss their ring i think he needs some steak

1:10:04 He's like hungry. Give the boys some steak. Now what kind of dinner does he want them to have? A steak dinner. Do they want spaghetti and meatballs? You bring over the Saudi guy, you say hey we're gonna get a spaghetti dinner. I mean what do they want? Is it a steak dinner or did he get invited once and he ended up with chicken? And he's still irked about it? I don't know. He's got some preoccupation with steak dinners. I can't believe you watch that. That's almost as bad as the Kardashians. I could, I get it. To be honest about it, I'm like everyone else. I'm just, for some reason Donald Trump amuses me to no end. So Libya has a new prime minister. Did a little bit of research into him. His name is Abdurahim El-Kib.

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Libya New Prime Minister, Abdurahim El-Kib, International Law

Abdurahim El-Kib has been named the new Prime Minister of Libya. Despite being presented as an academic, his background includes a chairmanship at the Petroleum Institute in Abu Dhabi, which is sponsored by major international oil companies like BP and Total.

abdurahim el-kib· libya· petroleum institute· abu dhabi· international law

1:10:52 And this is always tough when you want to Google these guys because you can spell his last name L-E-L-K-E-I-B or E-L-K-I-B or A-L- it's like ugh. They hate it, they hate Google. Oh yeah, they do not have Google friendly names. And so of course, you know, and by the way, this guy's not elected. He was put in place by the last jabroni, who was Jaja Jabril, educated in Pennsylvania. Was it Penn State? And so this guy is like, oh he's great, he's an academic, by the way, spent decades in the United States teaching at Alabama University, so another shill, but they're trying to present him as he's an electrical engineer, you know, this is an academic, a smart guy. What they don't mention is he also,

1:11:53 worked at the Petroleum Institute in Abu Dhabi, sponsored by BP, Total, Japan Oil Development Company and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company. He was the professor and chairman of the Petroleum Institute. Really? And they leave that out. Yeah, and that's not in the Associated Press. It's nowhere. Nowhere is that mentioned. And this guy is now the new Prime Minister. Yeah, of sales. I mean, please, don't be so insulting to me.

1:12:31 It took me a little, maybe the people at the news are just like, well let's try and Google him. It's too hard to spell his name. I can't find his bio. His wiki page doesn't mention that either by the way. And then of course we have to go and enjoy the spoils. So the President of Parliament in the Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe, Bouzek, went over there to Libya and was talking up a storm and he had a very important message. Bouzek, whose post is largely ceremonial, later met with Libyan Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril. He also highlighted MEP's fears for the post-Qadhafi era.

1:13:16 The fate of prisoners of war, war, should be determined in accordance with international law. By the way, that's how we have to pronounce it from now on. Law. Law. It's not law, it's law. What is that? Law. International law. Obey the law. Obey the law, you slave. Sounds like Peter Sellers doing a French guy. It does, it does. Now here's the pertinent point. Another thing is how to disarm thousands of people. Now let me tell you something about culture. Everybody in Libya has a gun. You know, now, and there's a good reason for it. Now they're going to go and disarm them. We have to put them into law and we must disarm them. Wow. Good night, Libya.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Syria Protests, US State Department, Internet in a Suitcase

The U.S. State Department is reportedly providing encryption software and "internet in a suitcase" technology to Syrian activists. Critics argue this is direct meddling in Syrian affairs to incite riots and facilitate the transmission of anti-government videos.

syria· hillary clinton· state department· encryption· cia

1:14:10 Good luck with disarming the Libyan. Yeah, the Iraqis or any of those? We can just impose international law on them. It should work. No, ah humbug Then we just move over one little bit to Syria more proof of the techno experts just a beautiful piece explaining exactly what Lucifer Clinton has done in that country to date which really explains why there are riots because we're in there and Riling everybody up. Creating riots. Creating riots. A law student tells me many female demonstrators are raped by security forces. Oh, here we go again. By anchor. No, the whole thing, the setup is the same. It's the same thing. It's exact same script, only it ain't working. Journalism student shows me the laptop he uses to transmit videos. He works with a team of 10 other videographers who record demonstrations with cameras hidden in their clothing.

1:15:10 And they are always aware that their videos could be used against them. He says we deliberately film crowds from a distance so individuals can't be recognized or arrested. Yeah, because they're all CIA shills. Activists say they also use encryption software provided by the US State Department that prevents the Syrian government from tracking the video source. After the student sends his videos, he immediately erases the hard drive. Why? Hold on a second. I saw this report. I didn't clip it. It's bull crap is what it is.

1:15:49 First of all, how does encryption have anything to do with tracing the location of a send? Nothing. Zero. Nothing. Nothing. And what is the point of erasing the hard disk, which by the way you can recover most of those erased hard disks unless you destroy the hard disk. What is the point of that? Well, the thing is, this is internet... This is bogus is what it is! This is internet in a suitcase. Because of course the location is known, Because it's going through the internet in a suitcase that the State Department has given them. So the encryption is only if someone else happens to say, hey, wait a minute, what's this Wi-Fi signal here? And they tap into it, you know, they don't want people like reading what they're doing. But this is the United States State Department meddling in affairs and riling people up. And they're filming it from a distance. Yeah, so it looks bad.

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

NBC Syria Report, Brian Williams, Blair Witch Style

NBC aired a report featuring journalists sneaking into Syria through a barbed wire fence in a style reminiscent of the Blair Witch Project. The segment is criticized for being overly dramatic and failing to provide substantive reporting, as the crew spent most of their time in a "safe house."

nbc· brian williams· syria· journalism· blair witch project

1:16:50 And you can't recognize people's faces. It's really disgusting that this is taking place. So NBC has this new show with Brian Williams called The Rocker, Worldwide Wrestling Federation. I can't remember what the name of it is. But it's a new 60 Minutes clone. And it's on once a week during the week. So they decide to do this bull crap report that is filmed like the Blair Witch Project of these two guys who are decided to correspond on it and his buddy that decides they're gonna go sneak into Syria. Oh right. With a camera crew and through the back door through all kinds of different surreptitious method somehow through Kurdistan or I'm not not there but somewhere

1:17:40 to Turkey or some to the mountains I don't know some some dubious route to a barbed wire fence and the whole thing but play play that this is what what this is what passes for the report played NBC does Blair witch clip for starters will likely be accused of spying This is the part where we're the most exposed I'm sorry I'm gonna make one of these I can do this It's open land all around us. We've stopped in this tiny little ditch waiting for the sign that we can go forward.

1:18:20 A car is supposed to be waiting for us on the Syrian side. We are now inside Syria, just waiting by the side of the road for our contact to pick us up. It's a terrible wait. Obvious foreigners by a roadside. Finally, our contacts arrive. They take us to a safe house in a small Syrian city. It's a brothel in a basement apartment full of beer bottles, mattresses, and hookers, and a mirrored bed. Home for the next three days. Wait a minute! These guys, they had a great time! So, okay, here's the deal.

1:19:02 So these guys these guys sneak in and they do a Blair Witch Project as though it's about them not about they by the way They're constantly showing b-roll that these guys. Yeah, shoot. No never left the whorehouse of course not and they interviewed like two guys like they could have interviewed over the internet I mean is play bullshit too, which is the second the second part of mass arrest? Tell him it just In our Syrian safe house, I speak with Jawan Youssef, a human rights lawyer. He lives in hiding and asks we not show his face. He says, I'd like to say to the American people, the same way you like freedom and democracy and to live in security, we are not different. We are human beings. Human resources, you mean?

1:19:50 So being so they interview this guy who didn't name the name is And so then they sneak back out of the country they didn't do anything They did a Blair Witch Project bull crap. This could have been shot in Hayward. This is great. You know I gotta make me one of these yeah, and you go And they're always panting when they're Right right right right now did they have like the flashlight or the green light that like the night vision shot shining up in their face I could so do this and their drones could be seeing it. Okay. Let's do this Okay Over there. We know the car cars waiting on the other side. It's really stark. Oh

1:20:41 This looks kind of dangerous. John. John. John? John? John I- HELP ME! So we just set that to video and we're done. Oh my god. I'm lightheaded now from hyperventilating. It was the lamest thing I've ever seen and the nerve they had to actually present it as some sort of a report from inside Syria. You know, you can get inside Syria. This is like... And they didn't do anything once they got there. They went from one safe house to another, stayed in a whorehouse, interviewed two people. That was it. Two different boneheads that they couldn't show their faces and then they shot back across the border. What garbage. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Let me see if I have it here. All right. Okay. We're here at the... I'm over modulating. This is really dangerous. I have no idea what could happen. We're just here and... Oh no!

1:21:52 We could do that. I'm surprised they didn't get that in. Yeah, well they could have gotten the clip from search.nashownotes.com. It's right in there. There you go. Yeah. Wow. Brian Williams. Yeah, well we know he's a douche. So I guess they're just trying to push this Syria thing. Now the Arab League has come out and said, hey. It's still not been given the green light by the New York Times. No, no. So it can't go yet until the Hummer has said Syria has to go. Now, there is something in the New York Times that was reported on, the scam of Home for the Holidays, which I'm worried about now that we have

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Iraq Troop Withdrawal, Kuwait Base, New York Times Rebellion

Despite President Obama's pledge to bring troops home from Iraq by the end of 2011, reports indicate forces will be repositioned to neighboring Kuwait. The New York Times appears to be diverging from the administration's narrative, possibly reflecting a rift between the CIA and the White House.

iraq· kuwait· barack obama· hillary clinton· new york times

1:22:30 Because I'm running out of time on my prediction. Now that we have We Can't Wait, they seem to have dropped Home for the Holidays. But the whole Home for the Holidays thing appears to be a giant scam. Go figure. Well, you know, it's a fascinating report because you remember last week, Craig, when the president suddenly appeared in the briefing room one afternoon and he said we are going to be withdrawing all of our troops from Iraq by the end of this year. Now, in some sense, that wasn't a surprise because the president had been mentioning that Time and time again, even at fundraisers, it was an applause line. He said we're moving all of our troops out of Iraq. I pledge to do that by the end of 2011. I'm going to accomplish that. What was new was there was negotiations with the Iraqi government to leave sort of a residual force, some 5,000 was one number mentioned. Other people mentioned 10,000, to try to hold

1:23:18 Iraqi society together while the army there and defense forces within Iraq are able to stand up on its feet and even Iraqi generals are quoted as this morning as saying that could be years away and also to keep the influence of Iran at bay the huge country next to Iraq Iraq has already, of course, fought a war with that country within the last 20 years or so. Now we're talking about an over-the-horizon force. As reported in the New York Times, more troops in neighboring Kuwait, of course, just to the south of Iraq, and working with the Gulf Cooperation Council, this is a consortium, sort of a group So, if I understand correctly,

1:24:13 We're not actually bringing the troops home, well maybe for the holidays, but then we'd like, we're gonna put them on ships outside of Iraq. What a scam! And has the New York Times turned? Has the, yeah, well it's been home to a lot of our troops for two, three years, if not longer. Has the New York Times turned on King Obama? Have they turned? I don't know. I mean, the New York Times is a functionary of the CIA. Duh. So, whatever goes on with the New York Times, I mean you have to remember that was it Gates or whoever, they didn't want to do a bunch of stuff that Obama wanted to do and they kind of reluctantly went along. And the Times kind of followed suit, but it seems as though the Times is in rebellion here. Their marching orders do not seem to be matching Obama's. Or Hillary's actually. She's the one who's calling the shots in this Middle Eastern thing.

1:25:11 and she's the one stirring up crap in syria and and the bbc is on on on board because we've heard reports the div they're really pushing the syrian agenda and but uh... new york times has done nothing they in fact i'm looking at today's paper there is nothing in here about syria which says to me that they're still no no no back it's not time yet so it's got to be something going on between the agency and the white house that is not uh... that we don't know what it is but it's they're not they're not buying into this Also in the New York Times, you know what I think it might be? I think everybody wants to see how really want to see how the Libyan Egyptian thing actually shakes out. Because you know they got the Al Qaeda flag, it was a big right-wing news. The Al Qaeda flags flying over you know some compound in Syria, or I'm sorry, in Libya. That's just the CIA flag upside down isn't it? Al Qaeda flag please. What does Al Qaeda have a flag?

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

PBS Underwriting, Dove Ads, Public Media Funding

PBS is facing criticism for producing its own underwriting spots for the Dove brand, blurring the line between public broadcasting and commercial advertising. Despite receiving significant public and private funding, organizations like PBS and NPR have yet to release their 2010 financial numbers.

pbs· unilever· dove· chevron· npr

1:26:10 running down the road with their flag? What if they have a flag? They didn't have a flag until just what, last week. I think they have bumper stickers too. It's the Al Qaeda flag. They got a website. So, New York Times had an interesting, of course they're angry, and I like it, the title of this, Making a PBS Show and its Ads Too. And this is a report about a show, it's a four-week documentary called America in Prime Time. And now PBS is public broadcast, is it system or service? System, right? System. So this is supposed to be, it's non-profit and it is underwriter supported and of course by people like you. So they want you to give their money to them to keep these important programs on the air.

1:27:05 So this four-week documentary series is underwritten by Unilever's Dove brand who are paying for the program. Soap. So what's interesting is that PBS has also made the underwriting commercials and this is a big, a big change. This is now it's really, really, really blatant. Now this happens all the time on commercial television, but now they, so the makers of the documentary have also created the spots for the underwriter, which of course is not advertising. And what they say is, so in this documentary they want to make a clear distinction between the underwriting spots and the series itself. So in the program when they're interviewing someone, the interviewees talk directly into the camera

1:28:02 But they wanted to make sure, quote, we didn't want there to be any confusion, said Mr. Yellum, this douchebag from PBS. So when they're showing the spots, the executives are shot from the side. So it's very clear that it's not part of the program. This is unbelievable. They have a non-profit status, they're begging you for their money, and they're just putting on ads that they're even making themselves. They have their own production facility. You know, we know how to do it best. Yeah, don't worry. We'll take care of that. And they're probably getting annoyed by the fact that some of their big contributors, the individuals saying, hey, you know, you guys run the news hour and then you run a Chevron ad. That's the same Chevron ad they run on ABC. Yeah. Let's let's do something different. Can you do something? Why are they running an it's an advertisement. Why am I giving you money if you're going to run

1:28:57 ads that they run on ABC, which is true by the way, it's the same ad, that Chevron ad with that little music. Yeah, yeah, it's the same one, absolutely. It's the exact same ad and so PBS has probably said, okay, alright, we're gonna have this production team together, we got plenty of money, let's put a production group together, hire some of the top ad executives and we'll do these ads Ourself so they're separate from the ads they run on network TV. So we can still get our our Suckers that you know that don't notice this Viewers like you to help us Make even more money. They make you know, they get it's close to a billion dollars. I mean, it's like ridiculous I'm they still haven't I always look at the year-end reports and

1:29:42 Neither NPR or PBS have released their 2010 numbers, nor has the Clinton Foundation. I'm waiting for you. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions. Yeah. We get like a couple grand. Yeah, exactly. Hey, how come it failed? Well, that sucks. Well, that's really weird. What, your cue? Yeah! Of course, I mean, I set this- We worked our way up to the, uh, cue point and then you dropped it. I set the whole thing up and then it doesn't roll? Let me see, why is it, uh... Oh, I see the problem. I'm sorry. Hold on. My mistake. That was my mistake. Let's try it again. And we'll make it sound better. I'll edit this. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Healthy Surprise, Vegan Snacks, Kilimanjaro

A listener sent a large box of vegan and gluten-free snacks from HealthySurprise.com to the hosts. The donor, who listened to the show while summiting Mount Kilimanjaro, expressed appreciation for the show's independent analysis and value-for-value model.

healthysurprise.com· vegan· gluten-free· kilimanjaro· snacks

1:30:29 That was my dumb slightly over modulated well for you, maybe before we start with our list I have a couple of Extra karma mentions that I just want to run through now. Did you receive a really big box John? Oh No, I did not receive a really big box. I remember one of our producers a couple weeks ago said hey Can I have an address to send something? I got something for you guys and I replied Did you or you probably don't reply to that stuff? Do you know I reply all the time? I buy my constantly doing email all day. Well, maybe it's at the post office box. So we got this box. It has to be a

1:31:13 Oh my goodness, it has to be... There was a little notice but the line was a mile long. Now this box is like four feet long, a foot and a half wide and probably almost a foot deep. And it's from healthysurprise.com. In the morning, John and Adam, I want you to enjoy these vegan, gluten-free, natural, organic, high quality food snacks as a token of my appreciation for what you guys do every week twice a week. I've listened to every episode all over the world, the most exciting time being during my successful summit attempt of Kilimanjaro. To be honest, at 18,000 feet, hearing some of the quote news just added to my altitude sickness induced nausea, so I switched to music.

1:31:56 The amount of work you put into the show really is incredible. There's no analog which provides the depth and analysis of what you guys do and that it's wrapped in humor and wit is a bonus. Who else watches C-SPAN and then does the analysis to connect the dots in a comprehensive framework and doesn't wrap it in fear and corporate shillage? When I think about the value and enjoyment you create for me and that you create for thousands upon thousands of listeners, I can only feel that something is profoundly wrong with that you two are not profiting immensely from this. You should be rewarded for what you create. Value for value. What more does any other entertainer do for five weeks consistently? Show me that football player.

1:32:34 Perhaps people need to learn to be trained on this new model of compensating the creators directly instead of through an intermediary, maybe a transitional disintermediate model. I think I have a couple of ideas for initiatives. Both of you inspired me. I don't know if it's a good thing, but I even based my pricing, I guess this is his company, off your magic numbers. How else have you subconsciously influenced me? Love you guys in the morning. So this box is filled with, I mean, it's got to be expensive. Snacks snacks, but like I get my box of snacks Mickey was jumping up and down because it's the kind of stuff she loves You know like an oat bar

1:33:10 I've got to run to the post office because I've been craving an oat bar. I have to say I had the oat bar and I liked it. It was okay. I'm like, you know, it was given with love. So I actually do eat those kinds of things occasionally. When you're hungry, you know, you'll pretty much eat an oat bar. I mean, basically that unless you have a horse. I see, do I have a horse I can eat? No, crap, I'll just take the oat bar. HealthySurprise.com, thank you very much. That was a beautiful donation. Then we have my sister Willow, who came in with $100, but she sent a note and I wanted to handle this. She said, I'm donating $100, and she lives in Italy, so pretty soon she'll... I should get that, get the money out of the country while you can. Get it out quick.

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Frank Jabroni Film, 501c3, Italian Cinema

A new independent comedy film titled "Frank Jabroni: Public Enemy Number Nine" is in pre-production. The project, led by the husband of one of the host's sisters, is seeking tax-deductible donations through a 501c3 structure to fund the production in Italy.

frank jabroni· italy· berlusconi· crowdfunding· film

1:34:05 I deeply believe in the No Agenda Karma model even more so because it's for a project that was conceived on this show with a discussion about the meaning of the word Gibroni. As Adam knows, over the months it has morphed into the pre-production of an independent feature comedy film called Frank Gibroni Public Enemy Number Nine. This is true. Her husband is a pretty well known producer and director and actor in Italy. And if you don't work for Berlusconi, you pretty much are broke. As Adam knows over the months it is I said that right the karma is for finding donors sponsors underwriters advertisers call it whatever you like I know you want to send us blankets and water just send us your cash and So she has a frank jabroni calm

1:34:51 And so they're looking for a return on the karma to get this movie financed. Actually, they set it up nicely. It's a 501c3 tax deductible donation. There's my sister for you going all the way. So we'll give a little karma for Frank Gibroni. You've got karma. And, uh, yeah, go to our list. And we have a few others. Do you have any more to read from? I do. You want me to do them now before we get to the list? Yeah, do them and I'll get to the rest of them. Uh, I want to thank you so much. This was, uh, I think we mis- we, uh, this was misunderstood. Uh, we had a 77-77 donation last week. Uh, this turns out to be the gambler's donation number and that needed to be made clear.

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Challenge Coins, Poker Karma, Growers Secret

Listeners report that No Agenda challenge coins are acting as conduits for good luck in poker games and sports betting. Additionally, a producer credited the show's "karma" for helping him land a job at Growers Secret, an organic gardening company.

challenge coins· green bay packers· growers secret· organic gardening· karma

1:35:36 that if you want gambling karma, $77.77 is apparently the number you need to do. This was nice. Good day John and Adam. This is from Christopher Shu. I'm writing you today to inform you that your challenge coins are not just beautiful collector's items but are also a conduit for karma. Last weekend I was invited to a poker game. I used the challenge coin as a card holder to secure my cards during play. It made a great discussion piece during off-hands, but when all is said and done, I ended the night with $38. If I removed my $5 entry fee, it netted $33. The next day, I had the coin in my pocket as I watched my beloved Green Bay Packers take on the Minnesota Vikings. The Packers game

1:36:20 The Packers won the game 33 to 27 or 33 to 3 times 3 times 3. This is proof to me that the knowage and the karma works. Proof. And the coins... Proof! Positive. Here it is. The coins harness and focus the karma energy. I plan to buy more challenge coins in the near future to give as gifts to family members for Christmas to spread the no agenda karma. So this is very interesting that they are a conduit of karma. That's pretty cool. And then finally Dave from No Agenda Entertainment. These guys put up all the videos and everything. They do a great job of maintaining all the fun stuff. Yeah, noagendaentertainment.com, good site.

1:37:02 Adam and John, the good karma was waved in my direction during the late summer and now I have a great full-time job as an e-commerce manager. Even better, it's for a San Francisco-based company called Growers Secret, which makes high-quality organic gardening nutrients so gardeners and farmers get bigger yields, like the anti-Monsanto. So karma is a good thing. We can't promise it, but there it is. I haven't gotten a lot of, hey man, the karma sucked, I think we had one once. So let's thank a few other people including Claudia Gerber out of Lisbon Ohio for $150 and Tom Schwartzkopf from Moody Air Force Base in Georgia $133. Jan Purcell in Hamburg Deutschland

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Palindrome Donations, Knighthood Layaway, Graphic Design

A surge of donations in amounts like $111.11 arrived in honor of the upcoming 11/11/11 date. Listeners from Germany, Canada, and the U.S. contributed, with some promoting services like Joe Cool Design for fellow "knights" of the show.

11/11/11· germany· miami· joecooldesign.com· donations

1:37:52 Oh, Hanover, yeah, Deutschland. Yeah, Hanover. It says H-A-N-O-V-E. In the morning, John and Adam, thanks for the awesome shows. The drone show alone is worth the money in addition to my $11.11 subscription. Here's a super karma donation. $111.11 plus 11.11 plus 1.11 plus .11 plus .1 equals 1, 2, 3, 4, 5! Woo! That is... Beautiful! and which also equals three dollars and thirty-three euros pre-meltdown that is. Knighthood I might be slow but you cannot hide. Please send me some karma for potentially tough times ahead and hey Werner where is your donation? You don't want to be called out as a douchebag do you? Keep up the great work guys and a little karma for you. You've got karma. Wow. Is that really true? Jan, if you really count all those numbers up

1:38:49 111.11 plus 11.11 plus 1.11 plus .11 plus .1. Yeah, wow. Cool. Yeah, that's pretty weird. Yeah, I like I like the numbers. Yeah, cool I like the way people think Bert Brit Bev is Beavis Bev's Bev's Beavis Beavis thing B's Maplewood, Minnesota 113 60 please give a birthday car murder shout out from the slaves in Minnesota just getting by we have that coming up Robert Diggle in Mosley somewhere I don't know where that is. 11311 Harvey Lee Federal Way Washington 11211. And we have IT Ninja in Mount Prospect Illinois 112. Please don't mention my name, we didn't refer to me as IT Ninja. I love No Agenda, the best podcast in the universe. Can I get a karma call, which is spelled with a K by the way, for a new job as IT Ninja?

1:39:53 And he says, sometimes you remind me of Freedom Radio back in East Europe in the 80s. Yeah, we're about that old, I guess. You've got karma. This is Freedom Radio, the sound of Eastern Europe. So we got in the mail, we got a hundred. We're going to do our we have a bunch of people with one hundred eleven dollars, 11 cents, including one Bob Holmes, who writes, please deduce my wife, Teresa, and I as long term listening deadbeats. You want it? He needs a de-douching and a karma. Okay, we ready? Are you ready for the combo? I get it. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. He says... I got, uh, threw in a little milf. I saw that, a freebie. A little bit of karma wouldn't suck, he says, in the de-despret-depressing economy, uh, emphasis on the word con, a plug for our URL, holmesrealestate.com, H-O-L-M-E-S, uh, would allow me to write this off and take a tax

1:40:55 right off of the, and a loss for the year. So that's an interesting idea. So he's gonna, because we mentioned Holmes Real Estate, and on his check, on the little note, he said it put ad, which I, okay. Okay, he snuck it in on us. Whatever. Andrew Gardner Avenue, Maryland, $111.11, Andrew Soos, I guess it's Soos, S-O-O-S in Melton South, Victoria. Maybe Soes? Could be Soes. As in So say. $111.11. I'm a 1111 subscriber from down under and appreciate the value of your service. I'm interested in the situation in Europe and caught myself thinking what will John and Adam's take be on this referendum?

1:41:40 Thanks for the call out to read a brave new world. I'm working on it. It's really a one-day read Brian swearing gin swear engine swinging in swearing in West Columbia, South Carolina hundred dollars eleven cents Brian Barrow in Wooten Bassett Putin $111 never says hi John and Anna. Please give me a douchebag call out for not donating more than I've donated You really wanted that yeah, I'm inching toward my knighthood But I thought I'd better make a donation because there are too many of us boners out here listening and not coughing up Please keep up the good work. We'll try vacation 2020 Seattle, Washington $111 11 says Joe cool design

1:42:28 Sergio cool design to you Princeton, Ontario 111 11 in the morning. I surprised him my $1,000 1111 said knighthood payment stopped after 10 payments until I did the math of course yes, we they turn off when you yeah, would you people who did the 111 11? knighthood a specific knighthood layaway it turns it off after you get to the after 10 of them and I've already attained knighthood by thought I pop top my 111 111 11 listen to that listen to that it's a freaking Apache Over your house? Yeah. They're trying to get you before you leave. To make it an even 11 payments of 11. This is a good idea. He wanted to make an even 11 of payments of 11, 11, 11 with 11, 11, 11 on 1111. Wow. Nice. I just finished designing a logo for the fellow knight who found me through the show Sir Patrick Coble. I thought this donation and the slave t-shirt I just bought would be a good use of the PayPal funds I made working for the NA Darknet.

1:43:28 I've also got a special 3333 slash hour price for nights of no agenda who need graphic design work at joecooldesign.com. Alright, nice. There's a write-off. Sir John Schuman, Madison, Wisconsin, 111111, one for the money, two for the show. Sir Keith Edwards, Gilbert, Arizona, 1111 and Maxwell Fry, Brooklyn, New York. Or Fray. Frey yeah, I'd be free could be fry could be free like Glenn Frey 111 111 when fry Raphael Figueroa in Miami, Florida 111 111 gentlemen greetings from Gitmo Nation Little Havana thank you for a very entertaining and informative show if you're hearing Dvorak on Twitter I had to check out the show and there we go it took a while but I get it now right on here's my donation in honor of 11 11 11 11 or 11 11 for the other Gitmo Nations I expect this is the first of many I wonder if you can share some karma with me I seek promotional work I'm up against

1:44:30 Strong competition, but have faith in the power of the show and always have faith in the power of the car got karma always Always always believe the karma and then willow we read her note. She came in $100 can do doozling or doiz doozling Stittsville, Ontario, $99.99, best podcast in the universe. Please, you son of a bitches are the best damn podcast in the multiverse. That's Texas speak, partner. Hell yeah. And I get a birthday shout to my son, we've got him listed, Ben's girlfriend, Christy turns 23 today. A shot of karma for her as her contract winds up this month and she's seeking renewal. John Adam, keep up the excellent work and give her some karma. Yes, absolutely.

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Driver Karma, Social Blend Podcast, CVS Flu Ads

The hosts read letters from "drivers" (truckers) and unemployed listeners seeking career karma. A discussion also covers "subliminal" flu shot advertisements playing at CVS pharmacies and the growth of the independent social network nasocial.net.

perth· nasocial.net· cvs· flu shots· drivers

1:45:17 You've got karma. He actually says, my dynamic and drone worthy duo. Yeah, we're drone worthy. Roman, Andrewsco and Bradford, Ontario, $99.99. Niner, niner, niner, niner. Oh, that's what the deal is, right? You didn't do it for Ken. Oh, niner, niner, niner, niner. Niner, niner, niner, niner. Gregory Davis, Lawton, Oklahoma, $60. Hey John and Adam, regular donor, Greg Davis from the Social Blend podcast here. Thanks as always for such an awesome show. I'm originally from Gitmo Nation down under and currently working towards moving back home to Perth at some point in 2012. I know you guys have mentioned in the past I'd like you to visit Perth. I'm requesting two shots of karma, one from me. We do a double at once.

1:46:03 helping my work start heading home and two for all of us and hoping both get down under. Yeah we're definitely gonna get down under next year. You've got karma. Why is Mimi in town? I checked, no she's up north. Christopher Gray 55 55 came in as a check from Parts Unknown. Robert Durden from Hoboken $50. Also, Joseph Weisenfarth at Eagle Point, Oregon, 5555. There's a little financial karma to this unemployed slave. Give him a little karma. Absolutely. Unemployed human resource, here you go. You've got karma. Christopher Kuroga.

1:46:49 In Kingwood, Texas, 55 Double Nickers on the dime, thanks for the most awesome podcast in the universe. Excuse me for being a douchebag for the last year and a half listening to the show, if I could please be de-douched, that'd be greatly appreciated. You've been de-douched. And he wants to call out his cousin Oscar who turned me onto no agenda as a douchebag. Shannon Baker in Sacramento, California, Double Nickers on the dime, nickels. I consider myself to be a driver, not a trucker. I doubt any truckers where I work can figure out how a podcast works, but in response to the call out, I figured I'd need to just send some cash. I think that's not true. I think truckers are very aware. Or driver. Driver? Hey driver, how's it looking up there? Driver?

1:47:42 Thank you both for the entertainment. Feel free to send back some karma. Yeah, of course. We have a driver coming at you some karma driver. You've got karma. That's a CB speak. Bruce Featherstone in Walworth, Wisconsin. Fifty five oh nine in the morning. Double nickels on the niner. Niner. For you. For you. I've been a douchebag for so long that I've been accustomed to it. No de-douching is necessary but I need massive amounts of karma for an interview I have on Friday for a great job after just getting by for so long. I need this job. You've got karma. Also plug nasocial.net, a social network for nights producers and douchebags alike. nasocial.net, at least it's not Facebook. Yeah, it works. It's got, I'm on there. You are? Yeah, nasocial.net, it's kind of cool. Sir Samuel, Sir Samuel Van Der Plank.

1:48:35 In sharb-beck-beak? Sharb-bake. Sharb-bake. Sharb-bake. Pfft. Pfft. Bake. A donation towards the knighthood of Rhino the beardless. The bearded. It's just the beardless. Okay, well. We got a bunch of $50 donations from Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario. Chad Biederman in Round Lake, Illinois. Christopher Lawton in Dartmouth, Massachusetts. Massachusetts nuts. Greg Brunsell in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Mark Vought.

1:49:13 in Somerset, Kentucky and Michael Ashford in St. Petersburg, Florida. Also $50 from Peggy Shimp, new listener in Ponica or Ponca, Ponca, Ponca. Ponca City. City, Oklahoma in the morning John and Adam. Thank you so much for your show I'm making this donation on behalf of my son Ryan who's celebrating his birthday. We have that listed also Could he get some karma for the flu? He's been dealing with yes. Well at least he didn't get a flu shot So here's some karma for that karma I was noticing, I was reading some tweets and I ran into the fact that there's a bunch of people with the flu, which seems a little premature, it's before the flu season, but people have flu all over the country. You know what Christina told me that she was walking through CVS?

1:50:00 And of course she's very aware about this stuff. And she says they've got this, and I couldn't find a copy of it anywhere, I guess I have to go there and record it. They've got this really horrible subliminal flu commercial that they play over and over at the CVS that like makes you want to go and get your shot. If anyone can record one of those at the CBS, I'd love to hear it. CBS network? CBS. Oh, the CBS. Charlie Victor Sierra. Right, the drugstore. They have a CBS down on Solano Avenue in Albany. Go down there and wait and record it. I might, because they have a big sign out front.

1:50:36 Oh yeah, flu shots. Free flu shots, yeah. No, they got a big campaign going right now, it's just, anyway, don't get it. And finally, Quinterox in Bradenton, Florida, 50 bucks says, hey guys, I was going to save this donation for Christmas time, but I figured you were in need for it now with last week's donation, which were incredibly low. I wish I could donate more but having a wife and kids at home, living on one salary and just getting by makes it difficult. I graduated as a programmer last spring with an associate degree and have had a rough time getting a job since I lack a bachelor's in work experience in the field. Would you please arm me with some karma for my search? Oh yeah, here it comes. This is really gonna work. Karma! You've got karma. Also, he wants to douchebag Mike at work for being a boner. Oh yeah. Douchebag! Come on, Mike.

1:51:21 Cesar Quinteros is our boy. All right, so that'll be our donations for this week's show. Good list, good list. Nice notes, good list. I appreciate everybody for picking up the slack. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel, Dvorak.com slash NA noagendashow.com and noagendanation.com. And if you happen to be drinking vodka and you're drunk, You're thinking... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir James Howard, Postal Theft

James Howard is officially knighted for donating over $1,000 to the program. The hosts discuss the high cost of producing and shipping the custom rings, noting that many are stolen by postal workers in Commonwealth countries like Australia.

knighthood· james howard· australia· canada· post office

1:52:18 Happy birthday to his son Ben's girlfriend Christy Belford. She turns 23 today as well Irish shrimp says I should say happy birthday to her son Ryan celebrating today as well anonymous Happy birthday to my husband Nick his birthday is on the 5th this coming Saturday to my darling Nick I love you very much from feet. I would guess if I would be feet and Rick dolls Olishny congratulates himself, turns 44 November 5th. Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot. Happy birthday to all of you from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. And we have one nighting today. Good. That's very nice. Let me, uh... Whoa. My goodness, there's a lot going on out here today. That'll be different hopefully in a week's time from now. Can you just grab your blade for a second? Yeah, here. Thank you. Okay.

1:53:14 James Howard stepped forward and saw it and kneeled before the council. Extend your ring finger as we hereby proudly Bring you into an exclusive club, a club of people who have donated to the NOAAgenda show, the biggest and greatest podcast in the universe in excess of $1,000. Thereby crowning thee Sir James Howard, Knight of the NOAAgenda Roundtable. Come on over, James. We got your hookers and blow, your booze and hot pants, and your rent boys and chardonnay right here. And your ring will be on its way shortly. We ordered them right? The new rings? Yeah. They're now in the channel and we'll be getting a new ring shortly. That was a painful bill. Yeah, but these things are expensive. Yeah. Oh, there you go.

1:54:01 I would say that looking at the... And by the way I want to mention is the process itself is expensive. You know every time Eric tries to send a ring into any of the Commonwealth countries, England, Canada, Australia, half the time they get stolen by the Post Office. Oh really? Oh that sucks. Really? The Postal Service steals it? Really? Well there's something that just disappears in the mess. Australia is particularly bad. How's our slave t-shirts in North Korea? Have those been sent yet? I don't know. I haven't asked. Well, when they get them, we need pictures of them in front of Kim Jong-il. Yeah, the guy better be wearing a V-mask or something.

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Win Lose or Drone, Real Estate Marketing

The "Win, Lose, or Drone" segment highlights the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to market luxury real estate in Southern California. The media is criticized for conditioning the public to accept drone technology by framing it as a helpful tool for photographers and realtors.

drones· real estate· southern california· military technology· marketing

1:54:44 I would say John looking at the clock it is time once again to play. Win, lose or drone. That's right we're bringing the drones to the home kit. If you love playing it on television you can do it now at your very own real estate office. It's time to play. Win, lose or drone! In these tough economic times, or tough times rather, homeowners are pulling out all the stumps to sell. And for some, that means calling in the drones. Take a look at how Juan Fernandez shows us how the same technology helping America's troops win wars is now being used to market local real estate.

1:55:22 They are one of the most effective tools being used by the military today. Drones, unmanned aircraft that can get in and out of tough spaces without ever being detected. Now a helicopter drone is being used to sell pricey real estate here in Southern California. The man behind the controls is photographer Daniel Garati. I love it. It's time to bring in the drones. Get everyone conditioned to the drones. Drones are good. You'll love the drones. Hollywood has been using those helicopter cameras for a long time. That's what all this is, but yeah. It's definitely a meme. That's the beauty. It's nothing new, but we have to convince people that it's all great. Get your drone on, baby. Get your drone on. Get your freak on. Get your drone on. Yeah, well, we'll all find out how great these drones are. Michael Moore was at Occupy Wall Street, Portland.

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Michael Moore, Occupy Wall Street, Private Jets

Michael Moore visited the Occupy Wall Street protest in Portland, where he was confronted by protesters regarding his personal wealth. Critics pointed out that Moore is part of the "1%" and questioned why he does not donate his estimated $50 million fortune to the movement.

michael moore· occupy wall street· portland· 1%· corporate jets

1:56:19 How can you say his name without playing the douchebag clip? Well of course I can. Douchebag! And uh, this will give you an idea of what's happened to Occupy Wall Street. So he's up there and he's now the celebrity. And he's got two guys, skinheads, protecting him. Which is very frightening. Like the buzz cut crew cut with green jackets. Nazis. What? Nazis. Yeah, they look like Nazis. Yeah, they probably are. And the guy filming this is pretty funny. He's like, hey, how about you give up some of your money douchebag with your 50 million? And of course, Moore doesn't answer. What happens is the guy follows him after Michael Moore is done, and he keeps yelling at him, and then the crowd turns on the guy.

1:57:07 and they start calling him a douchebag which is really, it's like here's a guy who's part of the 1% he won't answer and then they call him a douchebag. Well listen to this. What he just said was that the richest 400, we know about them right? They have more wealth than 150 million Americans combined. 400 people! And this man Thomas is requesting, and I think it's a very simple request Would each of these 400 just give back a million dollars? And by the way, what is that going to help? 400 million dollars? Yeah. That's like one day. Not even buy one smart bomb. Yeah, one day. Great, Michael Moore. How about a million of your 50 million? How about a million of your 50 million?

1:58:04 I love this. How about a million of your 50 million? They spend that on lunch. Oh, they spend that on lunch. Yeah, right. Yeah, I spend a million dollars on lunch. Very funny, idiot. So, um, but listen, I know they, um, I, I, I'm all right now he's walking away. Thank you. Thank you. Portland. I'll be here all week. I rock. I'm funny. My standup. I'm awesome. Love me. Now listen to the back make way for him make way for Michael Maher make way and the Nazis are pushing everybody out of the way 50 million are you gonna donate to occupy PDX?

1:58:56 Listen to what they're saying to this guy though is pretty amazing. They're getting really angry at him Make way for the 1% 50 million dollar Michael Moore here he comes. Make way for the 1%. Hey Michael you flying the corporate jetpack? Huh? Your own private jet? Who are you?

1:59:35 The guy's surrounded by an angry mob. We're calling out Michael Moore. Oh, go home people. That's pretty pathetic. Yeah, go home. That's a good clip. That's the clip of the day. Really? I think so. It's just it's sad. It's a sad clip. The guys, you know, doing what they tend to do in these big groups is you harass the bullcrapper who comes in to plug his book and make himself a big man even though he is part of the, he is the 1%, 50 million, probably a bit more. And he speaks up and blasts the guy like you would do in one of these things and then he gets shouted at. Yeah, as the instigator, who's paying you?

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Got Milk Ad, Billionaire Satire, Soy Milk

A new black-and-white "Got Milk" advertisement features a billionaire character attempting to waste money on "fake" milk made from beans or nuts. The ad is interpreted as a critique of the corporate trend toward soy and nut-based milk alternatives.

got milk· advertising· soy milk· billionaires· citizen kane

2:00:24 It's pathetic. Thank you for bestowing the award upon me. It's very kind of you. So I got a couple interesting, there's meme fest that's going on. I have to say this is one of the funniest ads I've seen for a long time. And you have to imagine that it's a black and white ad. Unfortunately, I believe it to be part of an ongoing slamming, you know, it's a slam of corporations because this is a black and white ad for milk. And it's about, and the theme is some millionaire's got so much money that he's just gonna throw it away on stuff and he's got a big board meeting in a dark room and it looks like, looks like something from Citizen Kane and it's just quite funny. But on the other hand it's also kind of sinister. I have good billions to spend and I want to waste it. Bob Ideas. Well we could put the whole internet into a book. Too practical, Jim. We could light more of your money on fire. Too easy.

2:01:25 We can make milk out of something other than cows like beans or nuts. But milk comes from cows. That's the idea. Draw up the plans. Got milk? Huh. So yes, the egg is quite funny. Oh, they have a whole bunch of that. Because it blasts the soy milk and the nut milk and the bull crap and things that aren't milk. Yeah. At the same time, so it makes a point about milk, but the subtext is this horrible billionaire is trying to screw everybody because he just wants to waste his money on crazy projects. Not let the babies have milk, that would be bad. No.

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Vagina Monologue Movie, Two Broke Girls, Ad Pitch

The sitcom "Two Broke Girls" featured a segment using the word "vagina" multiple times in under a minute. The hosts speculate this is a "sales pitch" to attract advertisers for feminine products or a setup for an upcoming movie related to the Vagina Monologues.

vagina· two broke girls· chelsea lately· advertising· sitcoms

2:02:09 Yeah, I know it's the ad the ad industry is crazy How much more time do I have on? on new vagina Commercials do I have like a couple more weeks left until the first real vagina commercials are coming on? Where they say the word vagina? I think you're are you're gonna be overdue pretty soon because they're ramping it up. They're ramping it up This is 40 seconds And I'm gonna give you four. No, here, wait, I'll tell you. I got the calendar. It's, uh... Okay, thank you. You made the prediction on October 13th and you did it, you said six weeks. Oh, okay. So I have until the end of November. Uh... Yeah, that's six weeks, the end of November. Four, five, six, yeah. Yeah. It probably, Thanksgiving, essentially. Okay. Well, I think it's coming because they're ramping it up. This is from two broke girls.

2:03:01 four vaginas. This is produced by the same woman who produces her own show Whitney which is a dog. Yes. And you know, I think this woman came out of nowhere. She comes from Chelsea Lately. She's on the comedy roundtable. Yeah she's a writer but she's always on the roundtable. With Chelsea lately and by the way, I'd they rarely use the use the word vagina on that show But I think is a sales pitch coming up You know, this is how when I was at MTV. I did the sales pitch for Budweiser to get them to you know to buy the channel About by the channel will buy ads on the channel for spring break and

2:03:52 Yeah, and what it yeah, then you know basically you you talk about you know how appropriate the audience is for the brand you know with 37% of all men are watch MTV drink Budweiser You know blah blah blah and you show some clips of how appropriate is I think there's a sales pitch going on to get ads from feminine products that actually will use the word vagina because they actually managed to put four vaginas in 40 seconds on the show And speaking of reframing things, I have a surprise. I redecorated my room. I scoped out some cheap fabric in bedding places down on Houston Street. What do you think? I think you've made a vagina. What? Sister, you may think that sex is the last thing on your mind, but...

2:04:45 You turned your bed into a vagina. Do you think my vagina has curtains? I don't know how long it's been. I'm tired, I'm going to bed. Okay, but I still have to make the cupcakes to bring by that place tomorrow. I don't want to keep you awake so why don't you sleep in my bed tonight and I'll pass out on your vagina. Okay, but you better buy me breakfast in the morning. You watched this, right? Was there anything funny? No. In fact, if I said to any woman, your vagina has curtains, they would shoot me. You can't say this stuff. That's rude and it's not funny. That's the most... It's not funny. Your bed looks like a vagina. That's so great. Turn up the canned laughter. This has got to be a pitch. I don't get it otherwise. Pitch for what? I think, you know, this is... I don't know what the point of this is. I mean, I know what you're saying, but I'm not buying any of it. I just think this is dumb.

2:05:47 Well it is, but the only reason they would do it is because everything's about money. Come on, everything's about money, we know that. So it has to be related to an ad coming up. It has to be related to it. There's no other way. Or a movie. The Vagina. Maybe the Vagina monologue is going to be made into a movie. That's what this is all about. Maybe it's the attack of the 50 foot vagina. With curtains. I'm more inclined to think movie than ad. It's back, and it's pissed. It's the 50 foot vagina, and it's got curtains. They wanted to make a movie with the vagina in the title, and they had to set the audience up first, so they did this. That's my take on it. Well, it would still be advertising then. Well, now you're all bleh.

2:06:37 What do you mean? Yeah, it was... Oh no. It was still, you know, it's not really a stretch. Before it's crap, it's pre-crap. Oh, I'm sorry. I was opening a new segment. Yes, go ahead. Boy, that segment was just gonna be... Since we're talking about money, I wanted to get my Bernanke clip out of the way. Oh, let's do that. Yeah, let's do your Bernanke. Which was some... Bernanke had this big press conference and so they asked him about all this crap that's happening and so they said, what can Americans do because of this mess that we're in and Bernanke actually answered the question what we can do. It's lame but I think it was at least worth listening to. The deal seemingly was done and now the rug was pulled out. Are you getting the sense that this economy just can't catch a break and how would you advise average Americans to deal with these continued shocks to the economy and to the financial markets?

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Ben Bernanke, Financial Literacy, European Headwinds

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke blamed "bad luck" and a lack of "financial literacy" among Americans for the slow economic recovery. Bernanke advised citizens to manage their own budgets while acknowledging that European "headwinds" continue to drag down the U.S. economy.

ben bernanke· federal reserve· housing market· financial literacy· recession

2:07:26 Well, I don't want to make excuses. Again, we did overestimate the pace of recovery for some fundamental reasons having to do with... Isn't that all they have to do? Isn't that his entire job? No other job. So he blames it on bad luck. Yeah. As I mentioned, the time taken to achieve financial repair, the the state of the housing market and so on. But that being said, as I indicated earlier, there has been a certain amount of bad luck and I think the volatility in financial markets associated with the European situation has been, along with volatility associated with the US fiscal conditions, has been a drag on recovery. I think... Hey dude, it's a total drag man, it's a drag. It's part of the reason why

2:08:16 The second half of 2011 was less strong than we anticipated when I was here at the last press conference in June. So there has been that concern. It's showing up in Americans' confidence and sentiment. You can see that right now consumer confidence is about where it was in the depths of the recession. That's very discouraging. To some extent, at least, that will be a drag on consumers' willingness to spend and to invest. My best advice to Americans is to

2:08:55 is to continue to live your lives though and continue to just get by. Don't kill yourself! Put down the gun! Put down the gun! Your personal situation and try to make smart decisions based on your own financial position. Clearly Americans are trying to improve their balance sheets, they're trying to pay down debt. That's of course important. Of course. At the same time, you want to make smart decisions, you want to make good investments, you want to budget properly. So financial literacy is a big part of this and lack of financial literacy was one of the things that got me. Hold on a second. If it says minus, John, does that mean bad? I'm just checking my financial literacy here. Minus. It has red numbers. I got us into this mess in the first place.

2:09:41 So I would advise people to... Did you hear that? He said lack of financial literacy is what got us into this mess in the first place. What an asshole! Let me listen to that again. What a dick! That's bullshit! Lie! That's of course important. At the same time, you want to make smart decisions, you want to make good investments, you want to budget properly. So financial literacy is a big part of this and lack of financial literacy was one of the things that got us into this mess in the first place. You stupid slaves, it's all your fault. You are not financially literate. So I would advise people to try to be smart about their finances.

2:10:22 Unfortunately, we can't disassociate ourselves from Europe. The things that are happening there do affect us. That's an unfortunate fact. I hope very much that Europeans will find a set of solutions that will allow markets to calm down and take off some of the headwinds from the US economy. Headwinds? Can I get the memo that headwinds has been dropped? Maybe you should just say sell your liver. Wow. Yeah. Well, there's a couple of interesting memes in there. One, of course, as you point out, the financial literacy, but it's also Europe is to blame. Yeah. Come on. I mean, come on already. Now that's pretty bad. Second half of the show. Can I just do a couple of things that are interesting to me and me alone? OK, then I'll do that. I only have one more clip anyway, so that I think is worth playing. Good. Are you familiar with the two ball cane logo?

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Facebook Logo, Two Ball Cane, Freemasonry

The Facebook "f" logo is compared to the "Two Ball Cane" symbol used in Freemasonry. While some claim the resemblance is a subliminal reference to the New World Order, others argue the visual connection is a stretch or based on photoshopped images.

facebook· freemasons· two ball cane· new world order· symbology

2:11:24 What? The two ball cane. That's some sort of a porn thing, isn't it? No. Go ahead and Google that. Consult the book of knowledge. The two ball cane. I can't consult the book of knowledge unless you play the theme. Oh, I'm sorry. Of course I will play the theme. Consult the book of knowledge! You have permission. Just Google 2 Ball Cane and look at the images. Just click on images and look on the images. I'm looking at the images. There is a hockey stick with a couple of nuts. And now turn it upside down. What does it look like? It looks like an erection. Nope. No. If you turn it upside down with the balls at the top. The balls are at the top on this one. Right. And what does it look like? Looks like an F. It's the Facebook logo.

2:12:11 The two-ball cane is an ornament worn by the Freemasons. Hello? It's been in our face all this time and we haven't even noticed it. Well, did anyone notice it? Where'd you get this information? You got it from the No Agenda News Network? That's exactly where I got it from. Well, who noticed it? We should be crediting them. Um, wow. Well, if you go to NoahJenTheNewsNetwork.com you can probably find it. I'll see if I can find out who turned me on to this. But I was like, holy moly, that is so right on. The Facebook logo is the two ball cane upside down. And upside down stuff, your brain sometimes even responds to that better subliminally. So what, well they did study with people wearing glasses that turned everything upside down and it only took them, I think it was like a half an hour to adjust, right? Adjust, yeah.

2:13:06 So I thought that was rather interesting. So what does it mean in the parlance of the Masons? New World Order. New World Order. Facebook is part of the New World Order. That's what it means. Two ball cane. I love it. What is it called a two ball cane? There's two balls and a cane. Every picture that shows them, if you look up two ball cane on Google and just look where it says images, they're all flipped over. Oh really? So maybe you don't even have to have it flipped over. Yeah, it says that they're all Fs. It's crazy. It's but it doesn't look... Because it's a cane, it's like that's the handle so that's the way it should appear. Doesn't it look just... It should be an F. Oh, okay. Rather as opposed to a hockey stick. Doesn't it look just like the Facebook logo though? Go to go to facebook.com. I'm looking at these things and it's like most of them look like the Facebook, well a lot of them do. Just go to Facebook. Many of them have a blue background which I find even creepier. Yeah, just go to facebook.com and you'll see their logo is the F with the dots. It's the two ball cane.

2:14:15 That's a stretch. No, I don't think so. It's an F. Okay. I mean, I think it's cute and the F looks like the cane but there's no dots, it's just a line. Uh, no. If you look at the Facebook logo, you'll see that they don't have the line, they have different ones, but the one I'm looking at doesn't connect, it's the two dots that create the illusion of the line. I've never seen that logo. Go to Facebook itself, it's got a line through it. There's no two dots on any Facebook logo I've ever seen, ever. Okay. Doing it right. I have one. I have okay. I have it in the show notes 353 dot na show notes calm I have a link to all the images with the balls. It's got the balls. It's bullshit somebody photoshop balls Okay, well there's a reason why you and I aren't on it

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

London Olympics Security, School Lockdowns, Arcadia

A secret SAS base is reportedly under construction for the London Olympics, featuring underground bunkers and elite troops. Simultaneously, schools in Arcadia, California, and South Florida are increasingly using "lockdowns" in response to vague threats, which critics describe as prison-style conditioning for children.

sas· london olympics· arcadia· school lockdown· terrorism

2:15:12 We have a second sense of these things. We do. Top secret new SAS base under construction at the Olympics. This came in this morning as I haven't really been able to do the research, but here it is. A top secret new SAS, that's the secret service, armed services in Gitmo Nation East, is under construction at the Olympics. The elite troops can combat any terrorists at next year's London games in an instant, according to The Sun, a very reliable source. Chinook helicopters have been in action over the capital for months, ferrying special gear to the new East London HQ. Underground bunkers will have troops. Wow.

2:15:55 This is gonna be great. I can't wait for those Olympics. That's gonna be the Olympics are gonna be great Yeah as we all you know they had a An entire school on lockdown here in Southern, California yesterday. Did you hear about this? No, this is local in Arcadia so Someone calls up the school and says I'm gonna kill somebody literally that's what it was they lock down the school They don't let the kids out. They let the kids go home. No. This is what's crazy, and then they send out these blasts and

2:16:31 to parents like automatic phone messages and text messages. We're on lockdown! We'll let you know when we let your kids out! This is wrong! This is prison! It's not a prison! You can't lock kids into the school! Well, the human resources here are accepting it. They're like, well, we didn't get enough information. No, your kids should not be locked in school, period! That's not a prison! It is here! It's all lockdown. Nobody says anything. You tell me that none of the all these news channels down in LA, nobody came on and editorialized about how this is like treating the kids like prisoners and keeping them in the school when they could go home? Does anyone notice that the word lockdown is used in prisons? Yeah, it's a prison term.

2:17:19 Lockdown schools on lockdown for their protection man. I'd be like get my kid out of there. Are you crazy? Oh Another reason to do homeschooling and or to go to Texas yeah, Texas well You're not gonna. You're gonna run into some weird crap going on down there, too. Yeah, well, we'll see well I'll be reporting on it the European Union is now considering a school here. I'm just looking down at schools on lockdown and And there's a bunch of Florida schools on lockdown. November 10, 2010, a school lockdown has trapped hundreds of thousands of students in all the schools. All the South Florida schools were locked down on November 10, 2010. South Florida City issues school lockdown after threat. This has got to be some kind of conditioning. Because they just get a threat, just like a random threat. It's not like someone's walking around with an Uzi on campus.

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Covert Surveillance, Schiphol Airport, Biometric Borders

Authorities in Britain are using technology to masquerade as mobile networks for data interception, while Schiphol Airport has introduced scanners that x-ray entire airplanes. The EU is also moving forward with "smart biometric borders" featuring facial recognition technology.

surveillance· schiphol airport· x-ray· biometric· department of defense

2:18:14 I think it's exactly the wrong thing to do. And by the way, you're, you know, that's terrorism. You're making the kids afraid. Terrorizing the kids. And what happens if it's actually a bomb planted under the school to blow the thing to smithereens and you want to make sure you kill everybody in the school? Let's put them on lockdown so they're stuck in there. I don't think schools have that right. And I think it's, no one, but there's, you're right, there's no editorializing of, hey, what the heck is going on with this lockdown crap? It's plain. Anyway, I gotta do this trip around Gitmo Nation. Staying in Gitmo Nation, East Britain's largest police force is operating covert surveillance technology that can masquerade as a mobile phone network transmitting a signal that allows authorities to shut off phones remotely

2:19:02 intercept communications and gather data about thousands of users in a targeted area. So I guess the way this works is you've got a phone signal but you're actually connected to the cops. Great. That works. Great. Yeah, this is fantastic. Then we have at Schiphol Airport in Gitmo Nation Lowlands The authorities there have introduced a new scanner that scans the entire airplane while people are in it. The truck just drives by scanning the whole plane and everybody in it. That's got to be a powerful laser. Wait a minute, let me get this straight. You're in an aluminum tube with insulation.

2:19:51 the x-ray machine goes through the aluminum and then it's got to go through you. Of course. This is x-ray terrorism. Of course it is. There's no way it's going through aluminum and then hitting your, just hitting your surface and then you know finding a gun on you. It's not possible. Yeah. And then what about the gun being on your other side? Even worse. It's going right through your body. But even worse they're saying it's to look for drugs. What the hell is that? Get a drug sniffing dog for God's sake. Walk him down the aisle, he'll find the drugs. I mean, I don't know which one is better, to get scanned and radiated or to have metal filings in my vaccine. I'm not quite sure which way I want to die. I have to ask someone, I have to consult the book of knowledge. This is a scandal. It is a scandal, but no one says anything about it. Meanwhile, in the European Union, United States of Europe,

2:20:45 The EU is now considering, it's on the front burner now, smart biometric borders. With facial recognition. That would be great. And the Department of Defense here in the United States of Gibbon Nation has instructed authorization for the creation of military department counterintelligence organizations. This is what the Undersecretary of Defense Michael Vickers has just announced. So now there's military department counterintelligence organizations. So we're going to just start more organizations, more intelligence, more wasteful spending, more please. It's just not enough of it. Oh man. So I ran into a clip from C-SPAN on a, I wonder if you can spot the interesting little

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

TSA Watch Lists, Security Lists, Barack Obama Health

During a TSA hearing, an official mentioned "other types of security lists" beyond standard watch lists, sparking privacy concerns. Additionally, President Obama's physician declared him tobacco-free, leading to speculation that he may be using the smoking-cessation drug Chantix.

tsa· watch lists· homeland security· barack obama· shantix

2:21:43 odd new piece of information. There's a guy that came on, it was a TSA hearing on Homeland Security and airports and all the rest of it. And this guy was going on about how they gotta streamline the system so because the problem is we have, you know, it's inconsistent, you go there one day, you gotta wait an hour, another day, so you walk right through. And what are we gonna do to change things? And this is also part of that new program that they wanna get everyone to sign up for. But there was a little tidbit in here that the guy just dropped that I was just caught my attention. done without a person having to spend 45 seconds of their time with their hands, you know, in a position like this getting screened and then going through the resolution process. If you take a look at what we're proposing in two to three years, we're just talking about taking existing equipment, reordering it, and making it a little bit more efficient because, you know, in the end, the efficiencies to be gained are by not having shout-outs in the airport checkpoint saying,

2:22:45 take this bag, take this passenger and move them aside because that slows down the lane. And I confidently believe in this, is that we can establish a high enough baseline to ensure security, but also to do something, and that's to take the level of detection that we have right now, whatever that number is that the committee has, and we can raise it even higher because we can direct our screening resources on those people that we know less about, least about, or those who appear on watch lists. or another type of security list that the TSA has. Senator Collins. What other type of security list that TSA has? What is this? Something we don't know about. Yeah, duh. They can appear on watch lists or some other kind of security list that the TSA has. And did no one pick up on that in this hearing? No. Wow.

2:23:55 We are so screwed. Well, if people were paying attention we'd be less screwed. But everyone's just zoned out. This is terrible. We're just getting nowhere here. We hopefully can keep this show on the road. Yeah, that would be nice because we do need to continue to do the work. That's for sure. I say in the next week or two look for our president to be a little wacky. Now that his physician has said he's in good health and tobacco free, I gotta think he's on the... Yeah, I was almost gonna take that clip. I don't have a clip, but I think he's on the... They made a big deal out of this. Yeah, I think he's on the Shantix. What do you think? Oh God. I think they put him on the Shantix. So we gotta be on the look... Let's see if he acts kind of weird. Tobacco free. I think Perry must be on Shantix. That might be explaining it. Oh, well, could be. He looks like a smoker.

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Show Outro, 11/11/11 Donation Drive, Freckle Penis

The hosts conclude the episode by reminding listeners of the upcoming 11/11/11 donation drive and the schedule shift to Monday. The show ends with a bizarre anecdote about a liquor store owner and a "freckle penis" during a mock sales pitch.

11/11/11· donations· podcast· southern california· silicon valley

2:24:52 Yeah, he does. He's also, the president's also scandal free by the way. Did you see this report? Yeah. It's scandal free. So so we're gonna do the next show Monday not this Sunday. Yeah, yeah if everyone's okay with that I think it'll be better for the show because then I really have time to prepare and I'm not tired and you know I guess we want more day eclipse. Yeah, so we can have an all clip all the time show. I think I think that'll be the best and so pass pass the word on that They will be doing the show on Monday. I know some people will be upset because they don't know about it or whatever. Whatever. And people like it for their Monday morning commute. I know it's important. But we'll just have to do it Monday morning. It'll be better for the show and I think that's the right thing to do. Yeah, I'm all in. Alright, we'll leave it at that. Please remember that unlike PBS, we don't have a production unit to make commercials for Dove.

2:25:56 and put them in the program, it is actually the case that we deliver the product instead of you being the product. And you might help yourself out by considering an 11-11 donation because we've got the big 11-11 coming up. We just had one. Of course, in one week from today plus a day, Friday, the 11th of the 11th of the 11th year and karma may be exactly what you're looking for. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA for that. You got anything else there Johnny boy to wrap it up no, I'm done Okay, I think I think everybody who donated much mentioned that any amount help so if you only can donate a dollar do it

2:26:43 And I'll roll out the latest Dvorak Horowitz unplugged right after we're done here on the stream, which is on 24 hours a day. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, where the mice's feet are up or down. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where our warm weather is ending today, the clouds are rolling in and it'll be miserable from now until the rest of the year. Your name? Or until, I guess. Until the end of the year. Your name? Oh, I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh, okay. We'll talk to you again on Monday, right here, on No Agenda. Yeah, it used to be a liquor store owned by this old Irish guy who had freckles on his penis. Sometimes he'd corner you and flash it, but then he'd always comp you a free lotto ticket. Okay, well let's try and keep that sort of charming nostalgia out of our sales pitch.

2:27:37 Oh, that's the owner. I scoped it out before you got here. And remember, I'll do the talking. Why don't I get to talk? Freckle penis!