Episode 329 · Thursday, 11 August 2011

Two Batteries One Cup

British authorities consider Egyptian-style internet crackdowns as civil unrest spreads, while domestic drills in West Virginia prepare for a mass migration event from the East Coast.

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Prime Minister David Cameron authorizes the use of plastic bullets as riots across the United Kingdom expose a fractured social family structure and the failures of a pervasive police state. While the New York Times offers limited depth, local reports confirm rioters utilize Blackberry Messenger to bypass police kettling maneuvers, prompting the British government to weigh social media shutdowns similar to those used by Hosni Mubarak. Nigel Farage and writer Darkus Howe offer clashing perspectives on whether the unrest stems from mass criminality or systemic harassment following the police shooting of Mark Duggan.

U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice demands the removal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad at the UN Security Council, while PBS NewsHour faces ridicule for airing a Syrian activist's claim that cell phones can be charged using Duracell batteries and a glass of water. In Norway, police officials admit to a one-hour delay in reaching Utøya island during the Anders Behring Breivik massacre, citing a lack of available helicopters. Meanwhile, Ron Paul warns of a bond market bubble and the collapse of the dollar reserve standard as gold prices hit record highs. Chinese authorities have suspended high-speed rail projects following a deadly crash, highlighting the risks of rushed modernization and internal corruption.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry broadcast from a sustainable living site in Ohio, engaging in target practice with Glocks and an assault rifle between tour stops. The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for top donors Benjamin Caudill and David Lee while debunking the etymology of the word gringo. A vintage computing book from the early PC era makes a surprise appearance, complete with a functional five-and-a-quarter inch floppy disk.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

Gitmo Nation, Episode 329 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 329 of the No Agenda show on August 11, 2011. The hosts broadcast from Ohio and Silicon Valley, greeting the audience and human resource producers in the chat room. They reference the upcoming date of November 11, 2011, and establish the "Crackpot and Buzzkill" dynamic for the episode.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· no agenda· crackpot· buzzkill

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, August 11th, 20... Sorry about that. This is no agenda. Why don't you sing it? You know, I'm just gonna leave that in there. We'll just start it over again. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, August 11th, 2011. Time to get my Nation Media Assassination Episode 329er. This is no agenda. Reporting from the front lines of Gitmo Nation, from the 4 Winds 5000 Crackpot Command Center, the home of aviation from Cheyenne Swann in the great state of Ohio. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I notice it's 11-8-11 or 8-11-11 or something. It's all leading up to 11-11-11 ladies and gentlemen, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Hey, that was one of the best openings we've ever done.

00:55 What are you flubbing? Yeah, well, how about you are awesome? Sorry? Hey in the morning John In the morning to you, Adam, and in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground all the world around. Hey, he made another rhyme. He's on a roll today. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, and we say a special in the morning to all of the human resources who are just getting by in the chat room at noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com, but they are charged up and ready to go. The way the government loves them, needs them, and intends to suck them dry of all resources.

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

United Kingdom Riots, Social Structure Collapse

Civil unrest and riots across the United Kingdom dominate the news cycle, though the hosts note a lack of depth in New York Times coverage. The discussion attributes the violence to a broken social family structure, austerity measures, and a pervasive police state characterized by constant stop-and-search tactics. Prime Minister David Cameron authorizes the use of plastic bullets while reports surface of rioters using Blackberry Messenger to coordinate and avoid police "kettling" maneuvers.

london riots· david cameron· chavs· police state· kettling· blackberry messenger

01:33 So, uh, gee, from the... I just picked up today's New York Times from the front porch. Yeah. And looking at it, you wouldn't even know there was anything going on in the UK. Oh, really? They put the nothing in there? Well, they got a little story, it says, shaken Britain debates riots. I really... I'm always a little upset when we get these types of big stories from different parts of Gitmo Nation, because just like the Oslo attacks, Even our best human resources producers who listen to the show they you can see the indoctrination and but also the cultural Nuances that have crept into them over the years and I would say I received eight nine maybe ten emails of people saying you know, this is just bullcrap and

02:25 These are kids you know they're chatty that Sony warehouse going up in flames. Yeah, these are child Yeah, yeah, but if we had a red book when we started this show when I was living in Gitmo Nation East in in London We would have pulled it out and said here you go. I predicted it I knew this was gonna happen you predicted this a long time ago And let me mention the funniest episode regarding this and we'll talk about these riots obviously in and off on and off but so on Wednesday

03:07 to get to kind of placate the public, the New York Times has on its front page and then I see the Wall Street Journal with a very similar photo on its front page on Wednesday. A big picture of a bunch of people holding brooms. And they're gonna be the cleanup crew. Yeah, it was a hashtag on the tweeters. Who's gonna be a cleanup crew? They're gonna sweep up the mess that they made because they're good little boys and girls. I mean, are you kidding me? Yeah, it's you know Here's my take on it and a lot of people in the UK are going to be angry and disagree but I've seen this happen and I lived in the UK for five years and

03:49 the family social structure is broke. And I had a teenage daughter who was in the milieu of these kids and she went to private school which is public school in the UK and it was horrible. It was absolutely complete pandemonium all caused by what everyone just generally calls the chavs and there is actually a segment of mobile home dwellers, who I guess you could call chavs, but it's rampant. There is no future for these kids. There's no jobs, there's no social family. I think it must be like 70 or 80 percent of all homes are divorced families.

04:38 Some parents take it or most parents actually take care of other kids. You know they sleep at each other's houses for weeks, months on end because it's messed up at my place. Oh you can sleep here. And booze is cheap. They got the 50 pence beer these days. And this has just been a powder keg waiting to happen. Now of course when it happens people's brains go to stupid. And, you know, like, hey, hey man, I'm pissed off, I don't know, I'm pissed off, I don't know, flat screen, I deserve a flat screen. And this is what the nanny state brings to you. When people expect to be taken care of, then the austerity measures come in, people don't get taken care of anymore the way they want to be taken care of, and then all you need is one little thing, and it's just a powder keg. But I was dismayed by the amount of people saying, nah, it's just a bunch of,

05:34 Just a bunch of dickheads and when you know we should bring the army in on them I mean good smart people saying this oh, yeah, no that's that's the kind of the common thing and Cameron I have a clip here Cameron playing the douchebag role is a completely naive character regarding this all you have to do There's a lot of clips in fact we have one in the show notes, and there's others coming and When you actually talk to the people on the street, you find out they're irritated at the government, that search and seizure law, some woman, apparently some old lady died when the cops busted in for no apparent reason just to check to see if they had weapons or whatever. And there's been a number of people killed by accident. They don't care and they point out some incident I guess a couple of dogs recently died in a cop car Well, also they made a big deal out of it a huge investigation But meanwhile, they killed a couple of kids and nobody cares but also John and these if you are continuously being searched and

06:28 This is not black people. This is not just the hoodies. This is everybody this happened near the MeVeo office all the time You come out of the tube the subway and you get searched they got dogs sniffing everywhere There's a camera on every single corner you push a cat into a corner The nicest sweetest cat is gonna extend this claws and come out and scratch you eventually. It's normal. It's human behavior. I I just don't get why you're getting, and I've gotten a few but probably not as many as you, this response that, oh it's just a bunch of hooligans. Because when they're burning down that's, I mean have you seen these movies of these blocks, entire blocks of buildings on fire? Yeah. I mean this is little more than a couple of punks robbing somebody, I don't know, at gunpoint or knife point in the UK, but play the Cameron clip.

07:16 1,200 have been arrested. London remained relatively calm today, but violence and looting has spread to other cities. Prime Minister David Cameron authorised police to use plastic bullets and water cannons, though so far they haven't been deployed. Cameron also denounced the rioters and others, including those who carried out an assault and robbery on a foreign student captured on camera. We needed a fight back. and a fight back is underway. There are pockets of our society that are not just broken, but frankly sick. When we see children as young as 12 and 13 looting and laughing, when we see the disgusting sight of an injured young man with people pretending to help him while they are robbing him, it is clear there are things that are badly wrong in our society. That was actually kind of funny.

08:07 The guy's like hey man, you okay? The other guys open up his backpack pulling stuff out. This is what happens and by the way I want to mention something here is JC buzzkill jr. Has been doing a lot of research on this good and apparently there was a there was an underground messaging system that keeps track of all the kids you have to remember that this all began with those riots that weren't rights but just peaceful protests that began months and months and months ago they have been going on hundreds of thousands of people on the street and going up on daily yeah and they finally got fed up and it is a minute and they get cattle then so there's a new system that you cell phones and you have a better networking is spot you'd be a map the cops a google maps picks it up in a push for all the cops are saying so you can pre

08:52 You know unkettled yourself, so you don't get cornered like the cops like to do that in the UK they kettle you It's called kettling and so that when these kids were robbing the other kid apparently if one kid goes down for any reason they let him slide, but they rave through his all his goods to get his cell phone because the cell phones got the Contact names of all the other kids and everything else that cell phone needs to be stolen immediately Good point and he threw that's actually that's a good point because the guy threw away everything else what I saw him walking away He was after the cell phone. This is being misreported. Nobody's getting any of this. They don't have any clue They don't ask anyone. They don't have well anybody like buzzkill jr. Looking into it But that's but the whole thing is it is that we're being given nothing but bad information The only people coming close to the truth is democracy now. Oh, really you have it. You have something from them. I

09:43 No, I don't have any clips, I'll have some on Sunday, but the fact of the matter is they're playing it as their normal, well it's a world revolution, you know the communists will take over any minute kind of thing, but at least they're getting closer to the truth than this, oh it's just hooligans. I have two clips, two opposing sides. Now the first one is from our friend Nigel Farage. And I was blown away by what he had to say. I was like, really? This is, I think, from King World News. It's maybe streaming or a podcast, but they got him on the show, which I like better than any official statement because the guys are always a bit looser when it's like, oh, it's just a podcast. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll talk to these guys. Listen to what Nigel Farage has to say. Joining us now is Nigel Farage, co-president of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group and national leader of the United Kingdom's Independence Party.

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Nigel Farage, Class Warfare, No-Fly Zone Proposal

Nigel Farage describes the London riots as mass criminality on an unimaginable scale during an interview. The hosts analyze the situation as a symptom of class warfare and a lack of future for British youth. In a satirical turn, the discussion suggests NATO should implement a no-fly zone over the UK, echoing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's comments regarding Western hypocrisy.

nigel farage· london· class warfare· nato· no-fly zone· ahmadinejad

08:52 You know unkettled yourself, so you don't get cornered like the cops like to do that in the UK they kettle you It's called kettling and so that when these kids were robbing the other kid apparently if one kid goes down for any reason they let him slide, but they rave through his all his goods to get his cell phone because the cell phones got the Contact names of all the other kids and everything else that cell phone needs to be stolen immediately Good point and he threw that's actually that's a good point because the guy threw away everything else what I saw him walking away He was after the cell phone. This is being misreported. Nobody's getting any of this. They don't have any clue They don't ask anyone. They don't have well anybody like buzzkill jr. Looking into it But that's but the whole thing is it is that we're being given nothing but bad information The only people coming close to the truth is democracy now. Oh, really you have it. You have something from them. I

09:43 No, I don't have any clips, I'll have some on Sunday, but the fact of the matter is they're playing it as their normal, well it's a world revolution, you know the communists will take over any minute kind of thing, but at least they're getting closer to the truth than this, oh it's just hooligans. I have two clips, two opposing sides. Now the first one is from our friend Nigel Farage. And I was blown away by what he had to say. I was like, really? This is, I think, from King World News. It's maybe streaming or a podcast, but they got him on the show, which I like better than any official statement because the guys are always a bit looser when it's like, oh, it's just a podcast. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll talk to these guys. Listen to what Nigel Farage has to say. Joining us now is Nigel Farage, co-president of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group and national leader of the United Kingdom's Independence Party.

10:30 Nigel, London is on fire right now. Can you talk to listeners globally about what that's like for you being there in London? It's absolutely horrifying. I mean, in the past we've had civil disorder. I mean, 30 years ago there were a very major series of riots that took place in a place called Brixton in South London, and that was a political battle that happened between the black community and and the police at the time. What is so totally extraordinary and perhaps even more frightening about this is there is no real political motive, there is no real cause. This is just mass criminality on a quite unimaginable scale. There aren't just one or two flashpoints, there are hundreds of flashpoints at which people are going out, smashing down doors, looting, setting fire to buildings.

11:16 i need that literally this morning got millions of people who are abiding londoners who are very very frightened indeed and we have a government who are mostly on holiday Although we're told some are going to be flying back today who appear just not to have a clue what to do. Nigel, I saw this in Los Angeles when they had the riots there and what was fascinating to me is that people who were not criminals became criminals for a day. Yes, it's this element of opportunism, isn't it? I mean, there is good and bad in all people, but I suppose the argument must be uh... that if you haven't got very much money and you see the opportunity to have a free television and think that the could be consequences of getting caught a very limited then perhaps more people attempted and into the king's contemporary one-day criminals i'd just feel that we've got to get a grip pretty quickly and walked in a fell the radical thing to do at the police on the go to cope and i think what the british government needs to do is to call in the army pretty damn quickly let's put soldiers on the street

12:17 let's give people a feeling that the conflict's gone right. I mean, this guy, he's showing the class warfare in Britain. He's saying that there's no political motive. Dude, these kids have no future. The only future they have is to go into the military and then they're shipped over to Afghanistan. And I've seen Christina's friends come home messed up. They're screwed up. So I think what we need to do because there's something big is going on. We need a no-fly zone. Yeah, exactly. We need to send a NATO. And I think Cameron should be out in a matter of days, not weeks. Amadine Jodd. Actually, let me play the... hold on a second. Here we go. It is US policy that Qaddafi needs to go. But let me emphasize that we

13:11 anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks. So Ahmadinejad came out and said to the UN Security Council, hey, hey, you hypocrites, it's time for a no-fly zone. When it happens over in my in my neck of the woods then it's like all messed up. And now it's happening in your backyard, now it's just hooligans. No. This is a problem that I have identified by living in the middle of it with a teenage daughter. I saw this. And these kids, it's frustration.

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Darkus Howe, BBC Interview, Police Harassment

Writer Darkus Howe challenges a BBC interviewer regarding the root causes of the London riots, citing the police shooting of Mark Duggan and systemic harassment of young people. Howe argues that the riots are a reaction to a police state where citizens are constantly searched and monitored by CCTVs. The hosts observe that the mainstream media is already beginning to downplay the story.

darkus howe· bbc· mark duggan· stop and search· police state· london

13:47 Now, there's one guy, and this is a poor recording but I can jack the sound up. His name is Darkus Howe, and he's a writer, and he's probably 65, between 65 and 70 years old. And this is a little bit longer clip, but it's really fascinating to listen to because he's being interviewed by the BBC. He's essentially saying dude. What do you expect? This is like all the search and seizures People getting thrown around it's the police state and the BBC is just not having any of it. Just no way Oh, yeah, this is a classic great clip

14:23 Great clip. No, not at all. I have been living in London for 50 years. There are so many different moods and moments. But what I was certain about, listening to my grandson and my son, is that something very, very serious was going to take place in this country. Our political leaders had no idea. The police have no idea but if you look at young blacks and young whites with a discerning eye and a careful hearing they have been telling us and we would not listen that what is happening in this country to them. Mr Howe if I can just stop you Mr Howe for a moment you're not you say you're not shocked does this mean that you condone what

15:17 what happened in your community last night? I condone, of course not! What I'm going to condone it for? What I am not, what I'm concerned about more than anything else, there is a young man called Mark Duggan. He has parents, he has brothers, he has sisters and a few yards away from where he lives, a police officer blew Well, Mr Howe, we have to wait for the official inquiry before we can say things like that. We don't know what happened to Mr Duggan. We are going to wait for the police report on it. If I can take you on a little bit. You were talking about your grandson, you were talking about young people. You were talking about your grandson, you were talking about young people.

16:14 They have been stopping and searching young blacks for no reason at all. I have a grandson, he's an angel. And he began to think he was coming of age when the police slapped him up against the wall and searched him. And he thought he had now had a ghost now. I asked him the other day, apropos of a sense that something was going smoothly around in this country. This is what I don't get. How can you say...

17:05 If you're being harassed by a police state, you're being searched, thrown against the wall for no reason at all. These stop and searches, you can't take pictures of anything. They have the community police, which are called, they call them brownies for slang. It's a slang language. These people walk around patrolling the area like, hey, hey, hey, don't cross the road like that! Your car is impounded at every single second that you leave it somewhere too long. You get the boot clamp. You've got cameras in your trash bins. You have to pay for your television license. Come on! Of course you're gonna go nuts! At some point, you can't take it. Well, we've been expecting this, the two of us, and if anyone's listened to this show long enough, they know that we've been talking about this for a while. And we have been expecting it. You more than me. I mean, I was expecting it, but you were more anxious about it. And it's no surprise. And this is an ending tomorrow.

18:07 Oh no, no this is not it. Well, it may end in the media, it may end tomorrow, but it's not actually gonna end. Well, it's ended already in the media. Right. and it was only a fact it was began it began and continue for two or three days before the media picked it up they ran with it for one day accuses you who again is in the now it's already showing up below the fold in the new york times is just a minor story i think a lot of yeah britain debates riots and fears the was set up and i think it was quite over here and i think this is the so meanwhile uh... the funny thing is is that uh... you know in the in in the u k

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Social Media Crackdown, Corporate Cooperation with Police

Prime Minister David Cameron discusses working with intelligence services and tech companies like RIM and Google to restrict social media use during periods of unrest. The hosts compare these potential internet shutdowns to tactics used by former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. The segment highlights the irony of Western governments praising social media during the Arab Spring while condemning it when used by their own frustrated citizens.

rim· google· social media· david cameron· surveillance· cctv

18:43 Most kids that I know Don't have smartphones. They have blackberries and black. Yes, it was it by the way this so I wanted to bring up the company's companies like rim and Google's doing this and other companies that are cooperating with the police Instead of you know, they're bringing down these Google Maps. I mentioned about you know, how they anti-kettling Maps Yeah, and the rim is turning over all their data files like very messenger BBM, right? and uh... this is not i don't believe this is a good thing to die i don't think they should be another was are getting involved and there's proof of that uh... i guess the uh... guess parliament came together uh... movies last night even and here's a a short clip of cameron talking about how we got a crackdown on

19:30 uh... the use of social networks for evil and how and and just listen intelligence is in on that industry is in our i'd google rim etcetera and the government of course this is the cat everyone watching these horrific actions will be stopped will be struck by how they were organized by social media free-flow of information can be used for good but it can also be used for bill So we are working with the police, the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality. There you go. Isn't that what Mubarak did? Shut down the internet? Yeah, well this is why I say we need to know FISO. Now let me ask you a quick question. If this is just a bunch of

20:13 unorganized hooligans punks and rioters how come all of a sudden they're organized by social media can they both be organized and unorganized well it's it's obviously This is the backfire we talked about in Israel. It's the same thing. It's like and people will have it You know, I think it's funny that I'm a dinna jobs was the first one to say it to the UN Security Council It's like you can't call social media awesome and fantastic when people are angry at their government and say it's a spring The Arab Spring or the Israeli Spring or the Greek Spring or the European Spring? But then what happens in your own backyard, you can't say oh, that's just social networks for ill

20:56 for ill. I know it's so obvious that this is such a, I mean this has got every no agenda element imaginable. Jam-packed. Jam-packed is almost like a joke. Yeah. But, you know, a lot of quote-unquote normal people in Gitmo Nation East who don't necessarily deal with this on a daily... You know, my good friend Michelle Harper has a huge bar, strip bar complex in Guilford. I don't know what the... He changes the name every three months. I don't know what it's called now. But people who have been to Guilford know. And he's a sweetheart, by the way. Of course, he's a gangster, because all my friends are gangsters.

21:41 But he's like, I can't handle it. He says, you know, I can't handle what they're doing across the street. They're handing out pints of beer for 50 pence so we can't compete on price and these kids just come, they go out across the street, they come in completely hammered. They're always fighting, knifing each other. You know and then the cops come and they say he has installed CCTVs in his establishment. It's just, it's crazy. It is truly Gitmo Nation. Now the thing is it'll never happen here or maybe not in our lifetime because

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, 333 Club Donations

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors and executive producers, including Benjamin Caudill, David Lee, and Sir Dwayne Melançon. A donation of $666.66 is noted alongside a request for "karma" for a family member involved in a motorcycle accident. The segment reinforces the value-for-value model of the show through listener-supported credits.

benjamin caudill· david lee· dwayne melancon· peter snakes· 333 club

22:19 Because we got fluoride. And we got great, we got Zoloft and stuff like that. We have, well it could happen in Michigan. I'll tell you man, it could happen in Ohio. You're in Ohio now. Yeah, I'm in Ohio now and we have had a great time which I'm happy to bring you up to speed on. But let's mention some executive producers and then talk about where you are and what you're doing. Good, good, good. Okay, so we do have one two three executive producers and two members of the three three three club actually we'll make it three double member Benjamin Codd deal from Landham, Maryland Donated six six six dot six six. I did I know this isn't the ideal number to donate He says with a smile, but it's what I need to hit knighthood. I'll need that extra penny from you guys though

23:14 It's a big penny. It's a it's a it's a shekel. A pence. Can I get a karma shot for my cousin Scott? It was just in a bad motorcycle accident last night. Yeah, absolutely. You've got karma. He also needs to re-douche Mark, Rob and Richard. Wait, let's hit him with a double then in that case. those guys money donate yeah david lee in williamsburg virginia three thirty three thirty three little gas money to make in uh... adam just to get by and tell them to stop eating his plane when you put it on the way i'm down to the rubber on the landing gear a little thanks thanks for the warning a little lady yama at the time when melissa also known as a long and nice to have him back in to go to oregon

24:05 In the morning guys, Sir Dwayne here getting in a little early on the 333 clubs. It sounds like a thing that things have been slow lately as they have been. Of course it's August dog days. By the way, I often listen to your shows on a delay and expect others do too. Maybe there is no direct correlation between what happened on the previous show and the donations you get. For me there isn't at least. Eric Snowden, the nation's site is rocking. By the way, keep it up. peter sheen a excerpt sir pate sir peter shenator snakes yeah in uh... the netherlands uh... is our associates and reduce it to twenty two i have is not here i have is not

24:51 Yeah, okay. Hey John and Adam, NOAA Gender reminds me of the old history programs on TV that showed us the connections between events in a cause-and-effect kind of way without talking down to us as opposed to what the lamestream media does these days. You guys let us stretch our brains around what's happening in the world. You are mental gym teachers. No, no bullcrap just the facts. I'd like some mental karma to go with my donation donation It's all support for the awesome job awesome job you do finally it's also my birthday the 11th of August day of the show I become the last prime number before my fourth year so of course we'll hand out some karma for you sir pate my pleasure got karma And we will we have them on the on the birthday list as well obviously

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Ohio Meetup, Sustainable Living, Hot Pockets Tour

The 2011 tour continues in Ohio, hosted by Brian and Susie Morris, who are described as living nearly off the grid. The hosts discuss the couple's sustainable lifestyle, including gardening, canning, and building a custom kit trailer from 1947 plans. Additional domain name contributions from listeners are mentioned as part of the show's community engagement.

brian morris· susie morris· ohio· sustainable living· hot pockets tour

25:37 And is that it? And that will wrap up our executive producers for today's show. Okay, I have a couple of Hot Pockets producers who I would like to thank who go along in our executive producer list. We have Sir Sean Conley, who I saw at the Chicagoland meetup. Now we've changed it now, we're doing the meetups after the show, which is just a lot better for sanity, essentially. And then our hosts here in Ohio, Brian and Susie Morris, gave us $250 plus, I might add, their house, their car, electricity, installed a 20 amp circuit just for the Duchess. We've got a hardwired connection, and I do want to mention, now I have to tell you about them in a second, because they are almost living completely off the grid, not the electrical grid, but they're getting close.

26:30 And you might want to check out Suzy Morris's blog, shiotsrun.com, C-H-I-O-T-S-R-U-N, if you want to get into some awesome gardening and growing yourself and sustaining yourself. And they have an interesting video business, secondmileproductions.com, 2ndmileproduction.com. And we thank them for their donation. What kind of a connection do you have? Because it sounds better than you've sounded for weeks. We've got the Time Warner Business Class. Yeah, so it can still crap out, but it has guaranteed two megabits up 16 megabits down So yeah, it sounds good, and we have a couple more Hot Pockets producers to thank as we

27:13 As we get into our donation segment later on, but a few PR mentions as people are always listening to the show thinking if they can come up with some cool domain names to forward to the noagendashow.com website. Sir Craig Jones is now forwarding digitaljihadists.com. Our show is just, you know, if you need inspiration for a domain name, just listen to this show, such as momwithbenefits.com. which is pretty bad. And one more, somethingcalledreverb.com. I'm telling you, one day these will be very useful. Thanks, Nate. Really appreciate that. It's very funny. So we want to thank our executive producers, Brian and Susie Morris, Benjamin Caudill,

27:59 David Lee, Sir Dwayne Melançon and our Associate Executive Producer Sir Peter Snakes from Gitmo Nation Lowlands. These are real credits and some of you have actually built up quite a number of them. You can put them on your letterhead, on your business cards, you can put it on your IMDB if you have an entry there. the phonies in Hollywood. If you need verification of your credit, we will absolutely vouch for you. So the... 2008 tour continues all across Gitmo Nation. Last time John, you and I spoke we were in Inverness, Illinois and we were hosted there by Chuck and Dana and their two lovely boys and did the show and then after the show we had a meetup. We had 50 people at the meetup, John. Cool! Yeah, it was outrageous and again some cool jobs people holding down. We had an air marshal there

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Barack Obama, 2004 Illinois Senate Race Scandal

A discussion regarding Barack Obama's political rise in Illinois focuses on the 2004 Senate race against Jack Ryan. The hosts recount how the release of Ryan's divorce records involving actress Jeri Ryan led to a sex club scandal that derailed his campaign. The segment also touches on Obama's transition from being called "Barry" to "Barack" as a marketing strategy.

barack obama· jack ryan· jerry ryan· rahm emanuel· chicago tribune

29:17 A couple of military guys, actually I do want to talk about some of the things I've learned. But the Air Marshal had something interesting to say. He said, I hate to break it to you, but I saw Barack Obama in coach twice when he was senator. What? Yep. He says he saw him there twice. What? Yeah. While president? No, Senator. Oh, while he was senator. Okay. Yeah. That's weird, but it could happen. Well, I'd asked. I said, if anyone has ever seen Barack Obama in coach, let us know. No, he'd let you know. Yeah. I did find something else interesting that I didn't know. Because, you know, it's like, I'm in Illinois, right? And this is Gitmo Nation Central. This is HQ run by Rahm Emanuel now.

30:03 I was like, you know, so how did Barack Obama do for you guys when he was a senator? And most people didn't even know that he was the senator. And do you know what happened that made him win the senatorial race? In Illinois? Yeah. There was a long article about it in the New Yorker. I think it had most of the details. What? So he was running against the incumbent Jack Ryan. And Jack Ryan, if you Google him, he's a cute guy, he has the whole look, everything's perfect. And he was ahead in all the polls, this is 2004 of course. And Jack Ryan at the time was married to Jerry Ryan, who plays Seven of Nine on Star Trek Voyager.

31:03 Right. This is where it gets creepy because we mentioned the similarity between Obama and Tuvok. Yeah, this is all outlined in this article. Go on. So, they're getting close. During Ryan's primary run, the Chicago Tribune and WLS Radio, I guess radio, maybe TV, wanted the records released of their divorce in 1999. And it turns out that this guy was taking her to sex clubs and saying, hey, sit here and blow me and let everybody watch. And that ruined his entire race. It's like, oh wow, how does that work? I mean, do we call that a... Coincidence? I think not! Like, wow, I didn't know that that's how Obama actually won. Yeah, I recall all that. Yeah, that was discussed in great detail.

31:56 and also many people of and there's more than just a blowjobs by the way you know there's a lot of costuming and well i have the you know i i have the uh... the actual document and it says is sex act it doesn't say what it was there was a repeat you know i don't know but uh... a couple of people have uh... been working out uh... in health clubs in chicago for a all their life essentially and uh... one place where uh... the president also you also used to go and work out His name was Barry. Everyone called him Barry. Until he became Senator, then all of a sudden it was Barack. Yeah, no, it was always Barry. How come we don't call him Barry Obama? Well, because he doesn't want to be called Barry. Okay. Because people like, I don't know, you tell me. My theory is it has more of an ethnic sound and it sounds more distinctive. It's marketing. Yeah, it's all marketing. Because I mean, Barry, it's not Barry. Yeah, right.

32:55 So anyway, so the meetup was without a doubt fantastic. I think we spent four or five hours. People came in from Madison, Wisconsin. Some people drove several hours to be at the meetup. It was a lot of fun. It really was. We had several financial people there who, of course, sysadmins who run big brokerage houses. I got some insider stock tips. It was funny, one of them told me, I can't mention who it is, he said, and so this was Sunday, he said, you know, all of the traders themselves are using their own money and they're buying S&P futures, which I thought was interesting. Yep, it's like a drug dealer. Yeah, exactly.

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Facebook Photo Restrictions, American Gothic Parody

The hosts express frustration with Facebook's interface, specifically the inability to easily save photos due to Flash animations. They describe a parody photo of the hosts and their companions recreating the "American Gothic" painting. The segment transitions into praise for the hospitality and home-cooked food provided by their Ohio hosts.

facebook· american gothic· mickey· photography· flash animation

33:48 And so that was great, great to meet everybody. I got like, one guy showed up with your book, John. Did you see the pictures? I was looking at the pictures because I was looking for some pictures to put in the newsletter that I just sent out. And of course then I noticed that Facebook, you can't clip these pictures out. No, you have to actually do a screen grab. No, you can't save them. Yeah, they're flash animations. It's not even a photo. How horrible is that? I hate Facebook. Why does people put up with this? Well, anyway by the way, and so that I kind of like it just it was an eye roller I just thought the greatest picture I've tried to use it, but I didn't have time to organize the screen capture was you and Mickey as the two characters in the in the painting that's the American Gothic American Gothic Yeah, that was taken up that now that was not Chicago that was taken here in Ohio that Missy took it was her idea She said I because they had to leave there. They were going on vacation. They were supposed to leave

34:47 on Sunday, they stayed an extra day so that they could be here with us. Let me tell you about these guys, they're fantastic. They live here near a lake, it's like an hour outside of Canton or Akron, Akron, Ohio. It's a completely wooded area. They eat all their own food. So Susie made us a great Spaghetti with everything from her own garden. She makes her own pasta. She makes her own sourdough bread she trades stuff with farmers for you know real bacon and she uses lard to cook with and it's just it's been outrageously awesome

35:31 The food is just and she cans and pickle stuff and and Brian did you see the lost art? Yeah, Brian make stuff with his hands. Did you see that trailer that that we hitched up to the Duchess? Yeah, I did. The one that you can now... Yeah, I can get in that thing. I'd have to crawl in and sleep for the baby or something. It's actually 6 foot in length. It's more than 6 feet so you could sleep in it quite comfortably. But he made this from plans from a 1947 kit trailer. Yeah, that is an old design. I've seen it before. In fact, I may actually have one of the old magazines where they used to sell the plans of that thing. It's very funny. Yeah, you can just Google it. But he made the whole thing from aluminium, just from the plans. He did buy the chassis, I think, an original chassis.

36:21 So, you know, these people are just, you know, very inspiring and felt, we felt quite inadequate just being around them. Now, of course, he has CCW, as everyone does here, carry concealed weapon, and he says, look, you know, we got to go, and says, but you're going to hook up with our good friends, what are you holding up here? Point to, what am I supposed to look at? Yeah, yeah. Don't worry. I have to mention that even though they're gone, they will have house sitters coming tomorrow when we leave. So don't try to break in! Thank you, Mickey. Nobody even knows where you are. It's, you know, you can... Somebody knows, trust me.

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

Target Practice, Firearms, East Coast Tour Schedule

During the Ohio stop, the hosts participate in target practice at an outdoor shooting range using Glocks and an assault rifle. They describe the experience as a common local activity and note the upcoming tour dates in Pennsylvania, Boston, New York, and Washington D.C.

glock· assault rifle· target practice· ohio· shooting range

37:12 Anyway, you're gonna hook up with the guys in the black Escalade that have been following you all the time. Exactly, those guys. Yeah, they don't care. So you're gonna hook up with our good friends Sean and Missy. And so they have kind of like a sustainable community vibe with a bunch of friends. So Suzy would be in charge of food and Sean is in charge of the arsenal. He's the weapons expert I told you about. So he rolls up around four. He's like, hey, you want to go shooting? Oh my goodness. Did you go shooting? Didn't you see the pictures? No, I only saw a few of them. I told you I was working on that letter and I saw about five pictures and I went on and did some other things. There's nothing hotter than Mickey with an assault rifle. It looked really good.

38:01 And so we had a couple of Glocks, you know, a Buda, his wife's gun, he brought the, he borrowed his dad's gun. It's like the whole family and chipped in a gun. Yeah, let him shoot this. And I think we spent a couple hours. Anything interesting? No, we did just regular target practice. It's an outdoor shooting range, which essentially this area when guys came back from World War II, they kind of needed a place to go hang out and do stuff. And now there's probably 10, 15 in this general area, just open fields. Yeah, it's not unusual. And they do a lot of skeet shooting, but there was no one there. He unlocked the gate himself and we rolled in. So we just did some target shooting with the handguns. And then we had, we were probably like 100-150 yards out. We had water bottles and some skeets on sticks and stuff. And used the assault rifle. And it was kind of funny how, I guess Sean was a little nervous in the beginning there. I out shot him.

38:59 And then he was like, you know, I'm like, okay, and we're done. Thanks. He's a hold on a second. He sat down. I was like It's had to show that he chose so I would make he take right to it. She's a natural and natural Absolutely, and she was charged up that night. Yeah women like to shoot. Yeah. Yeah it so who needs Viagra when you've got guns guns Um So we will have our meetup after the show today, 6 o'clock. You can find that, unfortunately, at the Facebook page, but I'll tweet out a link as well so you can find out where it is and we're expecting a number of people. And then tomorrow we head off to Pennsylvania.

39:49 So we are rocking it towards the East Coast. We do Pennsylvania, then we're going to go to Boston, then we're going to do a New York slash New Jersey meetup, and then we're back down to DC and Virginia. Sounds good. It's been great. And sometimes we actually say, you know, we could do this. Yeah, I think you could. I'm totally convinced that you're just a natural for this sort of lifestyle. And you just need to get a little bigger rig. Yeah, that's what I need. Bigger rig good to go. Yeah, I'll do it only if you sit in that little kit trailer and and and I Could just imagine someone's got a photo shop me out Drive with a trailer you can't be in a trailer where you're driving. Yeah Someone's got to be a photoshop in that picture have a little little John face there And so we skipped over it but one of the human resources brought one of your books that was published and

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

John C. Dvorak, Vintage Computing Books

A listener brings an original copy of one of John C. Dvorak's early computing books to a meetup, complete with a five-and-a-quarter inch floppy disk. Dvorak reflects on his prolific output of technical books during the early PC era and the durability of old magnetic media.

ibm· windows· floppy disk· vintage computing· john c. dvorak

40:52 about the I don't know programming the IBM Windows personal computing platform and had and he actually had the original five inch floppy disk in the back five and a quarter inch floppies yeah what was what book was that it was it was a big it was like Atlas shrugged so there's a bunch of big books I did a lot of big books or I did probably about 14 of these things oh really It said on it, it had like stickers on it that said, instant bestseller. Whatever that means. Somebody got the stickers on sale. It was funny. No, it was embedded man, it was embedded into the cover. So he wants James to make it a free holo book.

41:32 I don't know if you can cut through that thing. That's a yeah. Yes, too many pages I'm like John will be angry don't do that. You're cutting out the best part my words My work is all that material is no good. Oh, it's not but the fleece has the floppy He'd be stuck it in an old IBM and it booted right up. Oh, yeah, no words. Yeah, man. No problem anyway, so it has been great we have not killed each other and Yet. Which is good news. If anything, our love is stronger. I want to play you a funny clip. Before you play a funny clip, I want to bring something up. I was berated or somebody brought up the point of this. So I did a little research about this bullcrap Spanish gringo story. Oh yeah, well I guess I have to tell my part first then.

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

Gringo Etymology, Green Uniform Myth

The hosts debate the origin of the word "gringo," debunking a popular myth that it originated from Mexicans shouting "Green go home" at U.S. soldiers. Research suggests the U.S. Army wore blue uniforms during the 1840s, and the term likely derives from an old Spanish slang word for "Greek" used to describe anyone who did not speak Spanish.

gringo· etymology· mexican-american war· military uniforms· slang

42:32 It was me who told you that. I was at the Nashville meetup and one of our human resources, clearly Mexican, says please tell John the following, Gringo is not like some horrible word it comes from when the United States invaded Mexico they wore green uniforms and the Mexicans would say green go home green go home and that got later got shortened to gringo what a crock I don't know why I believe her she's incredible

43:12 Because when you find me one piece of evidence that the US Army ever wore a green uniform until 1902 when they wore olive drab. Before then, beginning in 1821, Congress ordered national blue with gray wool pantaloons. That was the army uniform. When did we invade Mexico? What year was it? Yeah, in 1840, 1850. So there you go, 1840, and they were wearing green uniforms. That's where the uniform was. No, it's the national blue. Hello, do you know what national blue what the color might be they were blue? Oh you I thought you said 1902 they they had a olive drab which even that wasn't green. It's kind of a ugly looking brown I think we need to

43:59 I'm I don't know if you look into it gringo seems to be the word It seems to be an old slang word for Greek used in Spain in the 1700s and it referred to anybody who didn't speak Spanish Amen, don't shoot the messenger especially not that I'm armed now Apparently this green green ghost story has floated around but it's total bullcrap All right, don't get angry at me I'm just relaying the message. I'm just saying. Hey, why don't you come out here on the road and listen to all this negativity about our show? You know, no, see, because everyone, everyone's like. They come up and say, you know about your show, it's the second hour that bugs me. No, what they say is, John said, this John, that John, this John. Like, John's not here to defend himself. And why do I have to take all this? Yeah, sure, I'll kiss your baby. Not a problem.

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Al Sharpton, MSNBC Teleprompter Struggles

Al Sharpton's performance as a host on MSNBC is criticized, specifically his difficulty reading a teleprompter during a segment on Wisconsin protests. The discussion expands to include Jesse Jackson and ACORN, alleging that these figures and organizations use protest tactics to extort donations from corporations.

al sharpton· msnbc· teleprompter· jesse jackson· acorn

44:59 green go i i i'm uh... whatever so uh... al sharpton has a has a show well yeah this is the l sharp and clip that i wanted to get i don't know is this this is the uh... What is he on, MSNBC or CNN? Yeah, it's MSNBC. He's replacing Olbermann, basically. Oh, alright, okay. And they kind of bounce him around for now. I don't think he actually has... does he technically have an actual show yet? They're setting him up for one. I don't know if this guy's... And this guy's a mush mouth. He's got no broadcasting experience. He gets good guests and sometimes asks good questions, but he's not a pro. Well, I have an example of him not being a pro.

45:43 We sometimes just need to break through the veil and show people that this guy has no message. He's reading the script and quite poorly at that. Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back Whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance but resist we much We must and we will much about that be committed We much isn't that awesome. Oh play it again so funny about that be committed

46:34 Wait a minute, I gotta roll it back to the beginning. He can't read the prompter! Here we go. Tonight is the measure of whether the- See this is how he talks, is the measure of whether or not the United States begins in Wisconsin and you're like he's so powerful but he's reading the teleprompter. Country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance but resist we much we must and we will much about that be committed resist we much resist we much resist we much resist we much

47:34 So just letting you know the guy's a phony. Yeah, he's illiterate. Let's face it phony Frickin phony. He's always been a phony. He's part of that You know those those clicks they set themselves up so they can just basically set up a charity and then extort money from corporations that they said people were telling me that about Jesse Jackson who was just from Chicago. He's from Chicago. I didn't realize he was from Chicago what yes Jesse Jackson Chicago. I thought everybody knew I didn't know that I've always felt like a New York guy I don't know. Oh, yeah No, he's from that he's from that would that X Kenwood or whatever that little areas is Rick Kenilworth or whatever It is that real expensive part of town. There's not a huge estate, right? And what happens is you know something something goes down He shows up makes a big fuss about it and then they pay him off to get him and make him stop and say it's okay and

48:29 Well, actually there's a bunch of reports coming out about how Acorn does this and what they do is they do these garbage dump runs and they say look we're gonna we're sick of your bank screwing us we're gonna dump garbage all over the place and you're front of your offices and they said no no we're gonna donate to you guys oh okay never mind we'll go yeah we're gone all right that's good we need to know why this isn't racketeering I don't know why we aren't doing it well because we're normal I mean we're nice we're honest I think that's why A callback from the last show where Gifford showed up on the House floor for the debt ceiling debate and what happened immediately is the Republicans

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Congressional Page Program, Mark Foley Scandal

The House of Representatives abruptly terminates its 100-year-old page program, while the Senate maintains its version. The hosts speculate on the true reasons for the closure, referencing the 2006 Mark Foley scandal involving sexually explicit messages to pages and suggesting deeper issues of misconduct on Capitol Hill.

congressional pages· mark foley· pedo-bear· capitol hill· house of representatives

49:19 Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Ooh, look at that! And the representatives immediately started thanking the pages. And we're like, that's weird. Yeah, I was with you on this until... What's going on? It turns out that they... They fired them all! Yeah! Now this is only Congress, not the Senate. The Senate page system is still in place. but the uh... the con the congressional pages uh... have all been fired the program has been stopped and this is going on for a hundred years yet a page program has been over a hundred years and they fired him on i don't have so i haven't found a reasonable explanation as to what's really going on and i have a lot of one right this is from uh... the hill dot com the program came under national scrutiny in the fall of two thousand six

50:13 When it was revealed that then-Rep. Mark Foley sent sexually explicit messages to at least one former page, Foley resigned a few weeks later as the scandal shook Capitol Hill, I'm thinking this is pedo-bear. This sort of thing has been going on since I was a kid! Why does Mark Foley's one message... Well maybe there was something else going on, maybe it was rampant! Well, I'm sure it was but it's always been rampant. Yeah, well, but you know now it's coming out now We have interwebs not coming out. We're not getting anything. This is bullcrap. There's something else Above and beyond the real bear. We'll see perverts in Congress. It's not going we'll see I think they there's somebody knows something or somebody's There's something screwy about it. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me One other call back

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Susan Rice, Syria, UN Security Council

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice calls for the removal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, stating he has lost legitimacy. The hosts analyze Rice's rhetoric and body language during press briefings, noting the difficulty of navigating the official United Nations website. They suggest the focus on Syria may be a distraction from domestic issues in other nations.

susan rice· syria· bashar al-assad· united nations· state.gov

51:09 I have received after we played the No excuses university clips. Oh, man I have received so many emails from educators who are saying you have no idea this you're so spot-on there is so much outrageous MK ultra like mind control brain programming going on it's horrible and And these are like grade school teachers who and by the way, thank you so much for listening. There is hope out there and But it apparently is just is rampant. It's nuts. I saw you had some research. Do you want I'm kind of uh, Well, actually there's research I want to bring up in the second half of the show because it involves area 51. Hey And mk ultra I hope well, there's Not really, but I mean I can mention it Uh, let's uh take a quick, uh

52:12 quick trip around the gipmo nation is a couple of things uh... susan rice came out and uh... they're heating things up around syria which i think actually may be a red herring now let's listen to her words at the united nations and by the way these videos are very interesting to watch you can find them at state dot gov and uh... all but also at u n dot int if you can get through the website which is you know i don't know who built that but that's got to be an eighteen million dollar website It's very hard to find things and they're very selective at what they put up. I think it's a Google search site Command I think you can probably find it Google can't even figure out the UN site. It's it's impossible

52:55 But state.gov has some of these videos and so they have this setup right outside the United Nations, you know, like the council room or whatever it is. And she always comes out like... She's like, she walks like 100 miles a minute. And she's hair pulled back. It must hurt her eyebrows how tight her hair is pulled back. I don't know man, she's a very scary woman. Well the United States acts both in the context of the Security Council and in our bilateral and other regional relationships. So we are working across the board to underscore that the behavior of Assad is absolutely unacceptable. He has lost any legitimacy to lead and we think it is past

53:43 that it would be much, much better for the people of Syria and Syria would be better off without Assad. And we're looking to the future and looking to lend support to the people of Syria who have the same aspirations for freedom and democracy that we've seen in Britain, many other parts of the world. You know I think you should start to clip over and everybody should listen when she says Assad think Cameron and when she says Syria think UK Well, I'll just pay that play the last minute you can still do it. Can you our discussions and our efforts here in New York as well as elsewhere? I am not I'm loath to predict What does that mean I am loath to predict because she smiled predict She doesn't want to make a prediction should make her sick to predict the loath means sick

54:32 Yeah, I loathe you. That means you make me sick. Because she smiled when she said it. It was very weird. She's like one of those people that does the inappropriate smiles. Yeah, you're right. Very annoying. Yeah, you're right. How exactly the council may respond in the future, I think council members have been uh... moved by what they have seen of late and and the intense moves fine in horrific violence in britain and civilians and we but we've also been frustrated quite candidly that it is taken the council as long as it has how candid are you if you're saying this to the world press had to be able to speak with one boy and i thought we think that it's past time for all council members to to put the interests of the syrian people

55:18 uh... rather than uh... particular bilateral issues or interests at the forefront of their action and for the council to continue as it did last week uh... with our strong support uh... to to to deliver a strong message that what is happening in syria is unacceptable and it and it needs to be stopped so i have an analysis based upon some input i got from some military personnel who showed up at the chicagoland meetup Before that though, I went around, I was doing some research, trying to find some more stuff about Syria. Of course we have China and Russia both on the Security Council who do not want to invade essentially or create some kind of no-fly zone. Russia of course, because they have a naval base there and they're going to be parking an aircraft carrier there in 2012, I read the other day.

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

PBS NewsHour, Syrian Cell Phone Charging Hoax

A PBS NewsHour segment featuring a Syrian activist is mocked for presenting a scientifically impossible method for charging cell phones using a glass of water and two Duracell batteries. The hosts use this as an example of media gullibility. A brief tangent follows regarding a "gag" advice to shave with butter for a smoother finish.

pbs newshour· syria· duracell· usb· butter shave

56:09 PBS NewsHour had a 15-minute piece and they were talking to Syrian techno experts who all live in Turkey by the way and they are so of course they're trained by the State Department and they're talking like they're in the middle of it but they're in Turkey and if you look one of these guys looks exactly like that Google guy gonad wallam whatever his name was So it's like they choose him not just on their social media skills but on external appearance as well. But he said something that I thought was kind of interesting. Because of course evil Assad is turning off the electricity. When you have no electricity, you can't charge your cell phone. So how would you do that John if you were out there and you're in Syria, in Hama and you've got Assad killing you?

57:06 What would you, how would you charge your cell phone, man? Well, I mean, uh... I would sneak downtown where there is power and plug in or I would find somebody with a laptop with some juice left or I would get a solar panel if I could but I don't think that's a little too late for that. Oh, those things suck. I've tried those. They don't work. I would use my car. Check this out. Problem with batteries because our battery is running out and no electric to charge your equipment. So for phone calls we create a new way, it's actually a simple way to recharge your phone. We use a glass of water with two batteries, Duracell or something else, already exist everywhere. We use it to keep the batteries in the water for one hour or 30 minutes, then you put the USB adapters inside the water and start charging. How about that huh? That's bull crap!

58:08 So it sounds like he's saying buttocks. You put your buttocks in the water? Now what is he saying? I don't, you know, I can barely understand this guy. Sounds like he's saying buttocks constantly. What is he saying? He dropped a battery in a bottle of water and the next thing you know it's charged? What is he saying? What he says is you take a glass of water, you drop two Duracell batteries in there for about half an hour to an hour, Then you plug in a USB cable into your phone and put the USB that normally goes into your computer into the glass of water This is bogus. There's no way this works. This is what I was like really I mean, so if this guy is saying this then he's full of bullcrap on everything else Yeah, I would think can someone try this experiment? Maybe it works touch try the X white bother trying it as bullcrap I

59:01 I knew you'd love it. Like really? You can do that? So he throws two batteries. Take two batteries and call me in the morning. He throws two batteries in the glass of water. Wait with the stir. Wait 30 minutes then just drop your USB cable in and it'll start charging. Unbelievable. And the guy on PBS is like, oh that's great, great idea. The guy on PBS is an idiot! Yeah, doesn't that kind of show you what else is going on on PBS? Please Wow yeah, that's the clip of the day already Wow, I don't know the clip of the day. I mean you can't beat that That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard and you got a guy from PBS lapping it up like a moron like it like a puppy oh That's all that's all that's so ingenious. You're so inventive so smart so good

59:58 And then there's a lot of uh... This reminds me of the joke. Maybe the guy's just playing a joke. I mean it's like the shave with butter gag. The what? Well if you wanted to get the smoothest shave you'll ever get, and I'll tell you this, it will actually work. Instead of using shave foam, use butter. Put some butter, just rub butter on your face and then use your regular shaver and shave. And you'll see it's, you get a beautiful clean shave. It's amazing. Should I use butter or lard? No, you should use butter. Really? And this is a gag, obviously? Well, it's not really. I mean, it does work, but there's a gag aspect to it. But you have to actually do it to understand. Why don't you just tell me what happens?

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Norway Police, Oslo Massacre Response Failure

Norwegian police admit to taking a longer route to Utøya island during the Anders Behring Breivik massacre, resulting in a delay of over an hour. The hosts compare the tactical failure to the "Keystone Cops" and question why GPS or helicopters were not utilized more effectively to reach the 69 victims.

norway· oslo· anders behring breivik· keystone cops· google maps

1:00:42 No, it's probably bad. There's no gag if I tell you what happens. Can the ladies try this as well? Oh yeah. For their own personal shaving? Sure, they can do it on their legs. Cheese butter. Hey, from the squirrel department, we gotta throw it back to Oslo. The Norwegian police, who of course didn't show up at the scene of the horrible crime of all these children getting massacred. Do you know what their excuse is? Forget it. You don't know here it is Norwegian police have admitted they failed to choose the shortest route to the island of the alarm was raised Hey, which Norway how many routes are there? We got Google Maps

1:01:29 Last month's massacre the force has come under much criticism for taking more than an hour to reach the victims of Anna's bearing Breivik who killed 69 people in a shooting spree they could have flown there I think in like seven minutes and they and they have helicopter teams trained They didn't take the shortest route. You just see a couple of these Norwegian cops like the Keystone cops. Oh this way. No that way What does Google Maps say? I don't know. It does sound like the Keystone cops took the wrong route. That's pretty insulting, I'd say. So I have a couple of clips that we might as well discuss this for a minute. You know, the economy, I don't know if you noticed this, but I think we're at the verge of a depression, right?

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Economic Depression Warnings, Euro Failure Predictions

Financial analysts on CNBC and other networks warn of a looming global depression rather than a simple recession. One analyst predicts the eventual failure of the Euro due to cultural and financial disparities within the European Union, suggesting the Deutsche Mark may return as a reserve currency.

cnbc· depression· euro· recession· reserve currency

1:02:15 Well, yeah, we even identified that because owling and planking is very similar to pole-sitting. Right. So let's play a couple of depressing or depression clips that I want to get out of the way. One is the depression coming CNBC clip. Let's play that so we can get a little feeling for this. Okay. You know what the result is going to be. You're going to have a very painful landing. That is what is going to happen. There's nothing you can do about it. You just have to resolve yourself to take the pain and hope that five, ten, fifteen, twenty years down the road things will be better again. So it's a double dip? I don't know what double dip means. If we are talking about another recession coming up, yes certainly, whether... that is recession followed by recession in the next business cycle, five and a half years apart.

1:03:06 The danger is that this recession turns into something bigger, something from which there is no recovery, in other words, depression. This is the British CNBC. That's CNBCW. So that is part one of the doom. Now the other one which I thought was a little more entertaining as far as I'm concerned, which is the end of the... this is another end of the Euro-Doom-a-Meister guy who's an American and I think this is worth listening to. Okay.

1:03:43 And I think, you know, eventually you're going to see the DMARC as going to be a reserve currency and you're going to get rid of the rest of the EU. But that's going to take a while. The euro is going to fail. You saying that? I'm saying that the combination in Euro land of a multinational currency is doomed to fail because they're too big a cultural, financial and attitudes. In what time frame, Stephen? We're talking months? Well, I started, I predicted this five years ago and I said it'll be a while and I'll say now that I think after you kick out a couple of weak sisters it could struggle on for another three, four years.

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

CNN Breaking News, Diana Nyad Swim Interruption

CNN is criticized for interrupting a serious interview regarding the S&P credit rating downgrade to provide "breaking news" about marathon swimmer Diana Nyad. The hosts mock the network for prioritizing details about Nyad's physical ailments and vomiting over critical global financial news.

cnn· anderson cooper· diana nyad· s&p downgrade· marathon swimming

1:04:24 Hey, it's time to plan the Hot Pockets European tour. We're on this one too, by the way, for anybody interested. Now, so now that Standard & Poor's things happen, there's a bunch of doomsayers out there, all the stuff's going on. Now, now if we cut away from some of these stations and go to CNN, they're going to bring out the most interesting, just total facts. That are good. That's so important. This is the stop the presses WTF clip that they're gonna bring out We're gonna learn something it very important get ready for this ladies and gentlemen We now go over to CNN for some very important news you will learn something and downgrade I spoke Friday night to S&P's top man behind the downgrade he took care of

1:05:06 Wait a minute, it's Anderson Pooper! Yes, and he's got this guy isolated, the guy who's behind the downgrade. We're gonna find out everything we need to know to fully understand the downgrade here on CNN. I love getting my news from Anderson Pooper. ...both taxes and entitlement spending, and a no patience for finger-pointing, watch. Watch. Already on Twitter, other places, Republicans and Democrats are pointing the fingers at each other, at President Obama, at Congress. Do you blame one side more than the other? No, I think that there's plenty of... This is CNN Breaking News. What? We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and of course all around the world to this breaking news. Diana Nyad, the 61-year-old marathon swimmer, has ended

1:05:49 her attempt to swim from Cuba to Key West Florida. Now this ended her quest some 29 hours into her efforts. CNN's Matt Sloan joins us on the line near Havana with the details. Wait, do I have to listen to this whole thing? Well you can skip it and get to cut. This goes on forever by the way. You can cut to the chase with Stop the Presses 2 where they kind of explain some very important facts because we had to drop the guy. We had to stop Anderson Cooper. So this was a pre-recorded bit. Anderson is at home in his penthouse in New York. He's got his shaven chest, he's all oiled up and he's like I'm gonna watch myself. Oh my goodness what are they doing?

1:06:31 they gotta keep him honest. to recover, she seems to be very sick to her stomach and they're trying to warm up her body after spending nearly 30 hours in the water. and we have heard she has been vomiting but there are also complications of asthma she's experiencing pain to her shoulders. stop the presses! as well that's a lot of problems for a 61 year old who had such an ambitious goal there to swim from cuba to the united states. wait, does the guy ever come back? No Keeping them honest. They stopped the presses for this stupid story about this woman who's gonna, who's an old woman, who's a big fat woman by the way, trying to swim, well she has to be so cold, she's trying to swim and they stopped the presses for this report. We could have heard it two weeks from now, who cares? She's throwing up, she's throwing up ladies and gentlemen, this is new news. Wait, she's throwing up and she has a sore shoulder. Oh wow.

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Ron Paul, Gold Prices, Dollar Reserve Standard

Ron Paul discusses the rising price of gold and the potential collapse of the dollar reserve standard on CNN. Paul argues that the real bubble is in the bond market and that the devaluation of the dollar is a worldwide phenomenon. The hosts debate the merits of holding gold versus selling it as it reaches record highs.

ron paul· gold· bonds· fiat currency· swiss franc

1:07:33 I just it just was like I'm like jaw dropped. I'm waiting to hear why we changed the S&P and all the rest. That's funny. That's funny. That's CNN ladies and gentlemen. That's your news source. That's right. I'm gonna throw a shoe out. Nice. I did see Ron Paul on I think was also CNN. Of course I've been enjoying the price of gold Which is well above $1,700 once again after John, I think two weeks ago you said it's time to start selling. Yeah, I think now you should really start dumping. So the guy, I forget his name, he asked Ron Paul, hey do you think this will go to $2,000, $3,000? And of course I would be like yeah, sure it's going to go to $20,000. Do you think that it can go to $3,000?

1:08:26 Oh yeah, because it could go to zero if we continue to do what we're doing. Because the bubble that I'm concerned about, I don't think gold is what you would call a bubble. I think the bubble is in the price of bonds. I mean, how could anybody have this much trust in the bonds and buy a 30-year bond and earn the interest rates they're making? That's where the big bubble is. But I think what's happening today, and why I see this as such a serious thing, is that I think what we're dealing with is the end of the dollar reserve standard. And that's a worldwide phenomenon. It's not just for the United States. Just think how many dollars we've exported, how many people hold dollars. And if this dollar is in big trouble, which is what I think is the problem, I mean, this is just not a minor problem. This is probably a bigger problem than the world has ever faced before. Never has been a fiat currency been used as a reserve standard as so pervasively around the world.

1:09:19 world. And there's not many other places to go, even though they're still going to treasury bills, but eventually they're going to give up. I mean, just look at what's happening to Swiss francs. There aren't enough Swiss francs for everybody to buy Swiss francs. So there's not much left other than commodities and real values. So actually, I think that's what's going to happen, but it's going to reflect the devaluation of the dollar. I was really impressed in 1971 when the dollar relationship to gold went up three dollars an ounce and I was really impressed and motivated me to get very much involved in politics. I think in 1971 when gold went up three dollars you told everyone to sell then too, didn't you John? That was before my time.

1:10:03 Heard you and Horowitz talking about it. Hey you you really think that this is just all a big scam and once the public has it then they're gonna dump it once the public is all in yet, and they pull the rug out from us what they do I think you're right. You like I said the joke was here's the joke I'm a gold big gold dealer, and I like gold so much that I want you to buy my gold So I'm advertising on the radio buying buying buying my gold buy my gold. It's gonna go up buy it Why if it's gonna go up? Why are you selling it well? A lot of people bought this at $35. That was a while back. No, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I'm saying hold on to it. Hold on to it until it hits four. Well, if you're just going to keep holding on to it, what's the point? You just got a bunch of gold and you're dead. You gotta sell it someday. No, I'm gonna keep it until we... Until you die. And then what's the point? You won't have any money to spend. Will you let me finish?

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

China High-Speed Rail, Corruption and Safety

Following a deadly train crash, Chinese authorities suspend new railway projects and reduce bullet train speeds to conduct safety checks. The hosts use this as a counter-argument to domestic calls for high-speed rail in the U.S., citing corruption and rushed modernization in China as cautionary tales.

china· high-speed rail· corruption· safety checks· architecture

1:10:55 I'm going to hold on to it until that is the only monetary union that is still used. That'll be the day. Yeah, that's gonna happen. You're supposed to save this bullcrap to the end of the second half of the show. At least I'm hoping. Wait until you hear what I have for the second half of the show. Oh yeah, oh it's much better than that. Oh, it gets good. If this is the Atlas Shrugged clip, there's any indication I doubt it. For the lawmakers and politicians who listen to this program religiously, and I know you're out there... All aboard, trains good, planes bad. Next time you come out and say, we're behind, China's China is so ahead of us, China, China, China. They got high-speed rail, China's all good. How's that working out for China? Let's have a listen.

1:11:53 What they're going to do is they're going to suspend approval of new railway projects. What we're going to see on construction projects already underway is safety checks and we're going to see safety checks on the existing lines. And the authorities have also announced, they've also said that bullet trains will now operate at reduced speeds. This is all coming about because of that deadly train crash about three weeks ago in which at least 40 people were killed. An accident that called into question the safety of the country's high-speed rail network. There was huge public anger following that crash. It was symptomatic of other grievances. We saw it vented online but we also saw it, very interestingly, we saw it in the state media.

1:12:39 i'm one of the main accusations was that the authorities were jeopardizing safety in the rush to modernize the results like his asians of corruption so certainly a great deal a public anger and i would be a great deal of public anger towards the authorities uh... because of corruption because of safety because some people in china feel that the forties have got their own interests first so next time someone's talking about this high-speed rail we need and saying that China is so great. What did I hear there? Corruption, they're rushing too fast to make it all happen, they've got to reduce the speeds. It's just not a good idea people.

1:13:21 Well this is all, this is not just with the high-speed rail over there. I mean, you know right now China is the center of all... China! China is the center of all cool architectural development. I mean there's great buildings going up left and right all done by international architects. And all these guys say this is, you know, all these architects love to have some place to showcase their buildings because a lot of people won't build these buildings. The Chinese will build anything. But they're a little concerned by the fact that if you actually go up to the building That, you know, it's not built quite up to standards and it could collapse. Yeah, it's beautiful but it's like, you know, if you want to be inside you're taking a risk. Yeah, those China bolts. Well, I was reading in the Idaho Statesman that a China company wants to build a 50 square mile self-sustaining city just south of Boise.

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

Bill Maher, Climate Change, Political Fractal

The hosts observe a shift in Bill Maher's rhetoric regarding climate change and Keynesian economics. They suggest Maher is experiencing a "fractal" moment where his audience may turn on him if he deviates from established liberal narratives, referencing his previous career setbacks following controversial 9/11 comments.

bill maher· climate change· evolution· hbo· political incorrect

1:14:15 which would be modeled after one of these special economic zones, I guess with these same buildings that they have in China. Interesting, right? Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, China. So I have a couple of off-the-wall clips. You know how Bill Maher is drum pounder for climate change? Oh yeah, he's uh... Huge. Yeah, he's always been big. Big, huge. Big. Uh, it was just weird, I mean the way he, I know he's trying to be kind of elusive here, he was talking to the woman who was the head of the economic council, that large framed gal. Kristi Roemer. Yeah, about the economy and it wasn't really developing anything, but Mark says the following screwy thing that

1:15:08 that just backed me up a little bit. Tell me if you can spot it. That comprehensive package that also deals with our long run problems. And that would have been a very sensible thing to do. But we don't do sensible things. This is America. It seems, you know... Things that used to be just settled, you know, like I used to think evolution was settled by the scopes trial in the 20s I used to think climate change, you know, we agreed that that was really happening in man-made That's now perhaps a hoax. And the other one is Keynesian economics. I remember Nixon in 1970 said we're all Keynesians This is actually a fractal John. Let me tell you what the fractal is

1:15:50 bill maher had a show on in uh... i think was channel five in new york so what was it maybe was it was a movie cbs he had a late night talk show a bc a bc they go and uh... it was pretty popular in the late nineties completely incorrect politically incorrect and then nine eleven happened and he came out and he said you know uh... you can't the president can't call these guys cowards because they weren't cowards They flew airplanes into buildings. That is not a cowardice act. And the sponsors pulled out. He was run out of the country. Run out of the country. Oh wait, wait, you gotta add the extra kicker to that. He also said that we're the cowards because we sit offshore and send in missiles. That's true.

1:16:38 So what's happening, Bill Maher of course we've been irked and irritated by his program on HBO since it went on the air because he's so on board with everything and now he's turning around. It's turning around and you listen to the audience, where's the hooting and hollering? The audience is going to turn on this guy. They will turn. It's a fractal. Yes, this audience is a... He's going to get kicked off the air. He's going to get kicked off the air, you watch, because he's not on board with the program. So meanwhile Al Gore is pissed. Yeah, we both have that clip you want me to play you let me see how long yours is if it's the same whole clip. Okay, I think I have the whole clip too, but the audio was so outrageously crap. This isn't too bad. Okay, we'll listen to yours and then I have a different Al Gore clip.

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Al Gore, Climate Reality, Profanity-Laced Speech

Al Gore is heard in a recording using profanity to dismiss climate change skeptics and "pseudo-scientists." The hosts discuss the context of the recording and Gore's aggressive stance on the "settled science" of man-made CO2 emissions.

al gore· climate reality· global warming· profanity· pseudo-scientists

1:17:29 pseudo-scientists to pretend to be scientists. The science is in! This climate thing, it's nonsense. Man-made CO2 doesn't trap heat, it's not. It may be volcanoes, bullshit. It may be sunspots, bullshit. It's not getting warmer, bullshit. And there's about ten other memes that are out there and when you go and talk to any audience about climate, you hear them washing back uh... at you the same crap over and over and over again they have polluted this shit there's no longer a shared reality on on on an issue like climate even though the very existence of our civilization is threatened by no idea well what an old lady xd but it was at this point

1:18:21 The science is in! Science! Science! Science! So where was this recorded? That's the one thing I didn't understand the context of it. I think it was given a speech somewhere. The funny thing was it was bleeped on everything I've ever heard except that you know, there's some people have the original copy but it was you know, you know, you know, you know cable the BBC everybody who played any pieces of it They just play a chunk didn't play the whole thing and they kept beeping it and it was just like you know this this whole beeping thing and and saying our word n-word a word c-word and It's very weird. It's pathetic. You know when Mickey lived in in Los Angeles nine years ago for about two years and this was around the time of the OJ Simpson trial and she showed up from from Gitmo Nation lowlands, and she's a little Dutch girl and She thought the n-word meant Nicole She didn't know what it was all about Anyway, Gore was on

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

American Spring, Al Gore on Current TV

Al Gore appears on Current TV to call for an "American Spring" similar to the Arab Spring, while criticizing the Tea Party as a movement funded by right-wing billionaires. The hosts note Gore's return to the public eye following personal scandals and link his appearance to the promotion of his new "Climate Reality" project.

al gore· current tv· american spring· tea party· koch brothers

1:19:24 uh... all berman's program some other douche knuckle was sitting in and uh... a minute oranges started his new show he's already got a substitute host its vacation g focus on one uh... particular suggestion you had about using the the wonderful digital tools that are newly available to all for the reinvigoration of democracy now they've been around for a while but they're spreading far and wide and more people are getting involved We need to have an American spring. You know, the Arab spring, the non-violent part of it isn't finished yet. Like in the UK. Yeah! This is great. He's a terrorist. He's calling out terrorist activity. He's a terrorist. Terrorist. Somebody arrest the man. Terrorist. He's a terrorist.

1:20:10 but we need to have an american spring a kind of an american tire rear square non-violent change where people from the grassroots get involved again not the you know not in the tea party style that you know they're people who are genuinely upset in the tea party i understand that but that movement was funded with seed money from right wing billionaires that this is patently not true The actual Tea Party movement started with the Tea Party money bomb from Ron Paul. It was then co-opted and hijacked.

1:20:46 Yeah, now there's like, but there's a half a dozen tea parties that are not really connected to each other except in some basic thesis. Koch brothers and promoted on Fox News and turned into a stalking horse for this right-wing agenda that a lot of people have been trying to push on this country for a long time. What Sackler's saying for them is to have absolutely no tax increases on the wealthiest Americans, they're at a low level now, and to try to shrink down government so they can get it out of the way of powerful corporations and special interests so that they can have free reign. And the Supreme Court, of course, has now declared that they're persons and can make these secret contributions.

1:21:35 I want to tell you, Keith, this country is in trouble. Our democracy... The funny thing is, it's not Keith. That's what's so cool. Is he sitting there or is he on the TV? No, he's on the TV. So he said Keith? Yeah. What an idiot. ...has been withering on the vine. It really has been. This has been going on for some time, but this is not an event that can be taken lightly. So, we need an American Spring. Why is Gore back on the radar? What is he doing? He's... They let him out of the penalty box after all that groping and all the other perverted sex acts that he was trying to do with women. Pedo-bear. Pedo-bear. Pedo-bear. So, I guess they gave him enough time. He's like, okay, we want you to lay low for about a year. About a year, right?

1:22:27 Yeah, no less less than a year. Hmm. I think it's less. No, maybe well, maybe it may be it's a I don't know 3033 weeks. So what is the I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Maybe it's climate He's got a lot of attention with that bullshit bullshit bullshit thing. Yeah, which he planted it was obviously obviously Bullshit, yeah And now you have him showing up on Olbermann, so something's up. He's either got a new movie coming out or... You know... We gotta talk about movies after the break. However, there's a clip that I wanted to play which really brought it all together for me. And this is of Charlie Rose.

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

George Will, American Exceptionalism, Constitutional Restraints

On the Charlie Rose show, George Will defines American exceptionalism as the creation of a government designed to get out of the way of individual liberty. Will contrasts the Madisonian view of a "safe" government full of blocking mechanisms with the progressive agenda of Woodrow Wilson, who sought a more "nimble" and efficient federal power. The hosts agree with Will's assessment that the Constitution was intended to block government action rather than facilitate it.

george will· charlie rose· constitution· woodrow wilson· james madison

1:23:12 Charlie Rose who of course gets all sexed up by his female guests. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm a teen. It's in your DNA DNA is sexually I'm Charlie Rose. I'm sitting in a dark room with you and he has George will on and george will is a uh... it's he just a journalist or is he also an author of the case of the notorious columnist very conservatives always said presented a uh... what appears to be a reasonable conservative counter argument to any liberal bias that uh... somebody shows that he'd he's dropped in as the book as the as the conservative stooge

1:23:50 on the shows where there's a conversation going on and his main competition is uh... the other guy that's uh... actually his name eludes me at the moment, the guy in the wheelchair. Oh, uh, Krauthammer? Krauthammer, this is his main competition. So it's an anti-constitutionalist thing and of course we've spoken about this and George Will actually just like opened my eyes when he said this is what it's all about. So it starts off there talking about the American exceptionalism. Remember we picked up on that meme, the exceptionalism of America, we're so exceptional, exceptionalism and Obama actually played that down

1:24:27 A while back, I think probably the start of his presidency, by saying, well, you know, I'm sure the Brits think they're exceptional and the Germans think they're exceptional. Yeah, he didn't understand the meme. Right, but the exceptionalism of America means something very specific. and what you're about to hear is charlie rose not once but actually twice goes in and start saying hey you know but how this a constitution was written a long time ago and you know what what do we know it's like it did they did with the and by the way i'm very disconcerted and disconcerted by the fact that rose and other left-wing supposedly uh... moderate

1:25:06 talking heads are all on the same anti-constitution, let's get rid of it, let's have a new constitutional convention, let's start from scratch, you know, this doesn't, there's no good, let's do what Iceland's doing, this bothers me. Now before I launch into that I'll have to I'll have to get this for you for Sunday's show. Thank you very much. And a groupie in the chat room, there is a reality show coming out called Climate Reality, which is Gore's new show. So good call, John. Good call. You got it. He's promoting the show.

1:25:42 Anyway, so this whole thing about the founders they didn't have internets. They didn't have clutch cars They didn't have any of that stuff. You know, this whole Constitution doesn't really apply to modern life Turns out you know the first guy was to say this the first guy to say that this this Constitution thing doesn't apply that it was written a long time ago. Can you guess who that was very famous guy Thomas Jefferson? Close it was actually Madison So Madison was a notorious anti-constitutionalist. A hundred years ago is when this started. Okay, so listen to this and George Will breaks it down for us in this two minute clip and says this is actually what the whole debate is about, about big government, small government, and American exceptionalism. America has a long intellectual pedigree tracing all the way back to de Tocqueville. De Tocqueville said Americans are different because they were born free.

1:26:35 Because they were born free, they have no feudal past, they have no entrenched aristocracy, they have no established religion. We had an exceptional revolution that did not try to create a government that would deliver happiness, but we created a government that would get out of the way of the individual pursuit of happiness by respecting pre-existing rights, that is, rights that existed before the government. We have an exceptional Constitution in that it does not say what the government must do for us, it says what the government may not do to us. That is the core of American exceptionalism. American exceptionalism today is also seen through the prism of whether those values will serve us today in a 21st century world that's very different. That is the argument. That's exactly the argument, is whether or not the founders are out of date.

1:27:26 Woodrow Wilson said as much. Woodrow Wilson a century ago became, well almost in 2012, became the first American president to criticize the American founding and he did so root and branch. It was not around the edges. What did he say? He said the American Constitution was fine for a time when we had four million people, 80% of them living within 20 miles of Atlantic tidewater, but now We are united by copper wires and steel rails. We're a national economy and frankly it's out of date. And what he focused on particularly was the separation of powers. He said it inhibits the government from being able to act nimbly, decisively, boldly, constantly. That was the progressive agenda.

1:28:11 was to try and overturn the Madisonian restraints. Charlie, when the founders went to Philadelphia in the summer of 1787, they didn't go to create an efficient government. The idea would have horrified them. They wanted a safe government, two which ends. They created a government full of blocking mechanisms. Three branches of government, two branches of the legislative branch, veto, veto, override super majorities, and yet I can think of nothing that the American people have wanted intensely and protractedly that they did not get. The system works. But is the system today broken? Not at all. People say, oh gosh, dysfunctional Washington, you can't do big things. Well now.

1:28:55 Under Barack Obama in the current polarized atmosphere, he passed health care reform that essentially advanced the nationalization of 18% of the American economy. That's big and it got done. So unfortunately they go into the whole Obamacare thing after that, but it was really an eye-opener. And people who don't understand what America's roots are, as he said, we were... Born free, as free as the wind blows. Can somebody get that for me? I need that for the eclipse show. And it is absolutely true. Our Constitution was created to block the government. Yeah, to stop because they came from a tradition. And by the way, this is still going on. Those governments, the Cameron government, there's your classic new government, you know, the constitutional monarchy. Yeah, let's bring out the military. Let's shoot people.

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Gerrymandering, Political Polarization, Safe Seats

A historical analysis explains how the perfection of computer-aided gerrymandering has eliminated political overlap and bipartisanship in Congress. By creating "safe" districts for incumbents, representatives only fear challenges from their own party's extremes. The hosts argue that this systemic corruption, rather than the Constitution itself, is the cause of modern political dysfunction.

gerrymandering· bipartisanship· lyndon johnson· civil rights· redistricting

1:29:47 Let's shoot him and let's, you know, turn off their tweeters, put cameras on every corner. Yeah. And this is, and they're more nimble. We need nimble. We don't need nimble. We don't, we need, I agree a hundred percent with what he said now. There's an interesting little side note, which I have this good lecture on party politics, which is a historian talking on C-SPAN, who wraps up the fact that we have a divisive Congress right now with the Republicans on one side and Democrats on the other. And he kind of summarizes it, I thought, in one of the best concise ways. This is like a two-minute clip. that I think is very educational and I think it fits in on top of the other one and the question is will this resolve itself and what's happened is that the government has

1:30:29 has been slightly corrupted, I believe, by gerrymandering, which he explains in here. But play this good lecture on party politics. I think it kind of brings this even closer to something meaningful. That Obama faces a challenge that Lyndon Johnson did not face, that Franklin Roosevelt didn't really have to deal with. And that is, we have gone beyond the days when bipartisanship was at all possible. In the 1960s, until the 1960s, both political parties included both liberals and conservatives. So it was possible, for example, for civil rights legislation, for other legislation in the 1960s, to find a coalition that included people from both parties because the Democratic Party had all those Democratic Southern conservatives.

1:31:15 But it also had liberal Democrats, big city Democrats. The Republican Party had northeastern liberals and it had Midwestern conservatives. But with the passage of civil rights, more precisely, when Lyndon Johnson nailed the flag of the Democratic Party to civil rights reform, he gave those southern conservatives permission to leave the Democratic Party. And they did, with the result that they all became Republicans. And the South became the center of gravity of the Republican Party. We've achieved a point now where if you are a conservative in this country, you are a Republican. If you are a liberal in this country, you are a Democrat. And there's effectively no overlap. With the result that the parties sift themselves out.

1:32:02 add to this the perfection, if you want to use that term, of gerrymandering with computers so that nearly every seat in the House of Representatives is safe for incumbents. So Republicans in Congress do not have to worry about a challenge from the left. They're all looking over their right shoulder. And Democrats are looking over their left shoulder. So the days when you could reach across the aisle to form some kind of consensus, they're gone, at least for the time being. Some of the states are appointing independent commissions to draw congressional districts and that will dilute the power of party to some extent but for now we're stuck in this age where you know you can't expect the other party to go along with you we gotta get our guns so what he's saying which is by the way if you think about it you want to change the constitution would not change this phenomenon by any means what has crept into the party politic is the fact that

1:32:59 like for example we have a republican congressman around here and his district is part of this town a chunk of that town all these little republican areas and they create these phony districts and not like a town it's like a strip of land gob of town and then another town over. It's not even continuous anymore. Or contiguous. It's just... Yeah, so these lines go all crooked like the Mississippi River. They're all over the place just so they can keep the guy in. And that's why the guy says like, now the only reason that anything's changing is because the Republicans have to worry about, you know, it's a Tea Party guy coming in and taking their job because they say, you're not conservative enough. They don't have to worry about some Democrat taking their job. Right. And it's created...

1:33:41 changing the constitution is not going to change this. What's going to change it is to create, you know, real congressional districts that represent a town or an area rather than, you know, just a bunch of Republicans that happen to be in a bunch of, in a string of development zones all on fiber optic channels. I mean, this is, this whole thing has been bull crap together. Nobody's complained about it. It's gotten worse by the day. That's the problem, not the constitution. Agreed. And apparently, This redistricting is of no use anyway. Because everyone is going to run away from the East Coast to West Virginia. I have proof that it's going to happen. There's a drill on the 17th of August.

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

West Virginia, Mass Migration Drill

The Department of Homeland Security conducts a drill in West Virginia to prepare for a potential mass migration of people from the East Coast. Local officials test communication systems, including ham radios, to ensure readiness for a large-scale emergency that would force citizens into rural mountainous areas.

west virginia· homeland security· mass migration· emergency drill· ham radio

1:34:26 For exactly this reason. And they're testing out the radios just to make sure they're ready for the drill. The Department of Homeland Security wants West Virginia to be prepared for a mass migration, but between our roads and our more rural areas, the authorities here aren't sure it can be done. Stacey Jacobson visited with them while they tested it out today. How'd they do, Stacey? Officials say the test went pretty well, Albert, with just a minor setback. That's exactly why they did the test to prepare for the real exercise. Citizens of West Virginia are really resilient as far as people are at their best when things are at their worst. But in the event of a massive emergency that forces a large number of people to head to West Virginia, that resilience might not be enough. And that's why nine counties in the region want to ensure that their communication systems are ready. Tuesday they tested them out. So there's an actual drill taking place on the 17th.

1:35:24 for this reason that they the Department of Homeland Security is preparing West Virginia for a mass migration. What? Why are people gonna head to West Virginia? Do they have better, do they change the barbecue theory or what's the deal? I don't know. And why West Virginia? Isn't that kind of mountainous? They're expecting, yeah, they're expecting all of the lone wolves to go hit the mountains of West Virginia. I don't know. But why are they having the drill? I don't know you're the one that follows these drills. It's funny because if you watch this clip, it's a local West Virginia I think is made Clarksburg station. She's got these guys like, you know, we're like the the the flower pot haircut

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Azerbaijan, Natural Disaster Drills, Iran Prediction

A military source reports that the U.S. has been conducting drills in Azerbaijan for two years, simulating natural disasters like earthquakes or floods. The hosts theorize that a manufactured disaster could serve as a pretext for a NATO intervention if Iran were framed for an attack during the chaos. A formal prediction is entered into the show's record regarding an "earthquake machine" event.

azerbaijan· iran· nato· earthquake machine· bill clinton

1:36:09 Sitting there big blob of a guy going like oh, yeah, well Yeah, the radios don't work too good and they're holding like walkie-talkies with stickers on them and stuff. You know We might have to use ham radios Might not all work. Yeah, I think that's a sure. Oh, you know, I I forgot to do my whole rap about Syria about why Syria is a is a red herring and Oh yeah, you know, you started and then you kind of did you got sidetracked and next thing you know, he didn't hear it Well, why is Syria a red herring? Well, there's nothing to see here clip. Come on. Come on. Come on I Realized that clip was so underused recently. Yeah, we gotta bring it back. Yeah, you're right Cuz the kids aren't singing it if you look at the Facebook page, I forgot to clip it. Crike There's a kid

1:37:03 Maybe three years old on video singing all of our jingles. It's outrageous. I'll have it for Sunday. I forgot to get it So one of our military experts who showed up at the Chicagoland meetup He has been doing drills for the past two years in Azerbaijan And here's the drill the drill is there is a natural disaster in Azerbaijan now if you look at the map Azerbaijan borders on Iran, yeah They've been doing drills for a natural disaster be it an earthquake a flood or both Which of course is my favorite topic and they expect to have a whole bunch of IDPs which is in displaced persons and then at that moment Iran would launch a so-called air quotes attack on Azerbaijan which would force NATO to then go and attack Iran and

1:38:05 How's that for a theory? That's a pretty good and convoluted concept. So the idea is they turn on the earthquake machine, they screw up Azerbaijan, you can just wait for this to happen now. Has Azerbaijan ever had bad earthquakes or floods? Are they known for it? They're not known for a lot. Right, except for that they're Iran's next-door neighbors. Yeah, which is all you need. So the US military has been training for this, training for two years in Azerbaijan for a natural disaster such as an earthquake, a flood, or both, and then what would happen is you'd have all these people running around, no place to go. Iran then attacks, which would of course be a fake attack, just like the Russians fake attacked Georgia,

1:38:49 Giving NATO is Azerbaijan part of NATO. No, you sure? Yeah, you know But of course under the new presidential study directly it up. Yeah. Well, there's a good idea for you I Of course under the new atrocities panel that our president has ordered by presidential directive, we won't be able to sit by idly as Russia, I mean Iran, attacks Azerbaijan and that would be our final path to Persia to go in and kick their ass. No. Last two members are Albania and Croatia.

1:39:35 Now their neighbors are Georgia, aren't they? Isn't Georgia up there as well? Yeah, Georgia's not in either. No, but Georgia's a big stink That's what Russia what doesn't want Georgia joining the money, but but no, but Georgia is right next door to Azerbaijan Yeah, I'm at look at my maps and according to my source check this out Azerbaijan has huge statues of Bill Clinton everywhere. Yeah, I am they love Bill Clinton and Just like Georgia has you know the the George W Bush Airport and Bush Highway Right George's loves Bill Clinton. No, I was Brijan loves. I mean, so I'm sorry Georgia loves a Russian. Yeah, I should buy John. Yeah, I didn't know about that So I would like a yeah, right there right there bumped up and right there, right? And we know we know that we had a false flag with Russia and Georgia so maybe that was just a little test and Azerbaijan is next

1:40:32 Well, something's up. Well, we'll follow it. Well, I would actually like it to be in the book. Oh, you're going to put a prediction in. Okay, hold on. Yeah. I can't grab this URL. Here we go. Okay, so the prediction is that there will be some hot action. Well, the prediction is earthquake machine, right? Hello? Well, Ken, I'm writing. Yeah, the prediction. It's all handwritten, the book. By the way, I'm going to take this book when we're done. It's almost about half way done. And make photocopies and then sell them. You're writing at longhand. Yeah, oh yeah. With a sharpie or with a number two pencil? With a pen I picked up at a trade show.

1:41:24 i have been highlighted if it's a prediction so i can write sign and that's so the prediction is will have an earthquake machine uh... event and then iran will create an attack on as a vision which then will prompt us under our anti atrocities act which is forthcoming to go in and attack iran well i think you've got Think you deserve actually three predictions unless you want to do you're combining them into one all the three First we call natural disaster then we call attack then we call countermeasures Yeah, okay. I think I have the kids jingles here. Thanks. I'm not sure who did that here we go

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

Donor Acknowledgments, Adios Mofos, Quant T-Shirts

The hosts read a long list of donations and thank-you notes from listeners, including a child's recording of the "Adios Mofos" jingle. Gifts mentioned include Rick Perry-themed t-shirts and a shirt featuring the mathematical formula used by "quants" to value mortgage-backed securities, which is blamed for the 2008 economic collapse.

rick perry· adios mofos· quants· mortgage-backed securities· ron paul

1:42:17 Adios! Adios, mofos! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. In the morning. How cute is it to teach your kid to say adios, mofos? I can just see this kid in kindergarten. What? Now, now, tie your shoelaces. Adios, mofos! I gotta clip that one. That one's just gotta be its own little clip. Adios! Adios, mofos! Yeah, that should be a regular. That's gotta be a regular clip. So, we don't have a... actually, we're real short on this show, but let's roll out who we've got. Edward Garing, or Gering,

1:43:10 in overland missouri uh... you're going he's uh... he's has the same last name is one of the guys guys during a tentative has an h in his name this guy doesn't when he's in karma work has been sucking extra that lately in a need a better job black cat high for me you've got karma You got this anonymous here, that's a hundred eleven dollars eleven cents. Yeah, we have an anonymous from any P in the UK Oh, he works for a division of the end. I eat dot P dot 110 dollars Peter Boy Coleman Bo Coleman Bo Coleman Bo Coleman Bo Coleman Bo Coleman Bo Coleman

1:43:58 Netherlands $100 Jeremy Hopkins he'd humming TV it sound like he gave 10 donations Hopkins and Regina rhymes with Saskatchewan $75 Timothy new say Nussy. I would say Nussy. I think it's Nussy. Yeah. I think it's Nusay. Yeah, I don't think so. Whitby, Ontario, $66.66. Matthew Perkins in Temple, Texas, Czech Republic. We're one of the two. Hey! Here's a In the Morning from Gitmo Nation, Pivo. Here's 1,000 Czech crowns, which turns out to be $58.95, to help with the Hot Pockets Tour and any chance of some karma for his job. You've got karma.

1:44:43 Double nickels on the dime for Matthew Wilbur in Rutherglen, Virginia. First, it was great to see Adam and Mickey at the Meetup in Fredericksburg last month. I only wish John had been there perhaps at the wrap-up meeting in December or in D.C. I wanted to give myself a shout out for my birthday. He's going to get that. Also some karma for his wife who is starting her new career as a nurse. You've got karma. Hey, how about that? How about that? He created a website called getmonationmoniker.com which will have all the getmonations, uh, the correct names for all the getmonations out there. So, uh, how about you come into the final meetup? I'm still looking into it. Andrew Johnson in San Francisco, California, $50, like to put some karma on my new website about architecture, aplotofland.com? You've got karma.

1:45:36 and then fifty dollars each from David Middlebrook and Ellen Aberdenshire UK George Scanlon Carpentersville Illinois Matthew Carey Sir Matthew Carey sorry Eastwood South Australia Sir Tristan Lennon Wagga Wagga Wagga New South Wales and and tristan wilson kerrigan which is interesting to me padbury western australia thanks everybody for helping us out on this particular show how we need them or the same for upcoming sunday episode and i go to your email boxes we have a note in there for you to read and i've got a couple of uh... thanks to some hot pockets producers when just so i got it they some of them are really creative to make some uh...

1:46:22 Really some beautiful cards and letters and I got a number of books and t-shirts. I got a t-shirt with Rick Perry Adios Mofos t-shirt. I would first want to thank Larry Losoff. He gave us $110 plus 75 euros which I think brings... he should be a knight with that. uh... sir sean connelly three hundred thirty three dollars uh... he joins a third of the three thirty three club adam mickey thanks for all the great work you are not only entertaining you make a difference for sean connelly notices and put john on there but of course if you don't show up that's what you get

1:47:01 Stephen Fuchs gave us $50 with a letter here. Can I get some karma for my new website German pulse.com so we'll give you that there Stephen Fuchs. You've got karma. And could you possibly call out my co-worker Rich for listening and not donating to the show absolutely. Vaginal irrigation sack you. Then we want to thank our hosts here in Ohio, Brian and Susie Morris. $250 which they really didn't have to give. They left a note on the table after they left. We're not expecting anything from someone who gives us their house, their car, their cats.

1:47:40 The whole deal. Adam and Mickey, thanks so much for stopping by and house-sitting while we're gone. A pleasure chatting with you. Thanks for a great show each week. Keep us entertained on the way to all our weddings. They have a wedding video production company. Hope this helps with some gas on the tour. That sounds very sweet. And they also gave us like some maple syrup straight from their own trees here, which is awesome. Right from the tree. Nothing added. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. How much maple syrup did they give you? A jar. They had 50 gallons this year. Well, give me their address. I need a gallon of maple syrup. Yeah, we'll get you a gallon. No, we'll get you a jar. No! You don't come on the Hot Pockets Tour. Who knows if there's maple syrup? If there was maple syrup, you'd be there. I'll tell you what, I'll bring maple syrup to the meetup in DC.

1:48:31 So again their websites Susie is fantastic with all the gardening in the cooking shy it's Ron calm ch iot sr. Un and their video production company second mile productions calm to ND mile production calm productions calm and Reminder that we are house sitting until tomorrow, and then they have house sitters here, so and there's guns so don't show up Mofos. Jesse Cruz, $100 from Jesse. I think he had, did he have a note here? Yes. Well, his note from Larry. Adam John, great show. Finally got a chance to donate. Don't like PayPal. Cash is king. Hope this helps out. Oh, $111. I was born in 58, turned 53 this year. Hope the 75 euro is enough for a little karma. Oh, I must give him some karma.

1:49:23 You've got karma. I'm glad miss Mickey is doing all the administration. I'm pretty lost Coffee grinds, you know coffee grinds. He tweets a lot. He's At coffee grinds on the tweeters he gave me a t-shirt with a formula on it and I couldn't I was like what is this it is the formula the quants used to uh... value the mortgage-backed securities he says he walked a ride i think he's a uh... trader or works in the exchange or something he's a quant you know the quants those crazy mathematicians? I actually gave a speech to the quants once uh... they're all out of chicago I mean that's where it started and they do quantitative uh... analysis of the market they're a completely new form of economist the newest and most modern

1:50:16 and i went up and let me say is giving my talk on computers i'd i sat through a bunch of the talks by some of these people in his fascinating some of these p and did but it's all very mathematical it's very but it's quite interesting they had their still under appreciated so the the t-shirt and all all and it's i'm happy by the way cuz i only have these group of one great t-shirt on the road uh... the t-shirt has the formula p equals omega and then in parents a comma b comma y and uh... then it's a at option monster and that is the actual formula that tank the economy so uh... he says he walked around at the the uh... chicago exchange for day no one even noticed it that's typical tony and kate moreno gave me the uh... rick perry audio small photo t-shirt thank you so much love that sean pile gave me three ron paul books uh... would you give me here i'll give you some very well driving

1:51:11 He gave me and the Fed he gave me the revolution and he gave me liberty to find Really appreciate that now. I have one orphan book. I'm I Know if you're gonna give me a book, please write your name in it or something So I know who it came from so I feel bad I don't know who gave me this everything I want to do is illegal is the title of this book war stories from the local food front and It's pretty cool. You see a little farmer there and a USDA tank rolling up pointing weapons at him. That's right. That's where it's going, mofos. And then of course Sean and Missy, Sean took us out shooting and Missy made us a great dinner and we hung out and watched some C-Span, although unfortunately C-Span is now all on the repeats.

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Top Gear, Nissan Leaf, Media Manipulation

The BBC show Top Gear is accused of staging a segment to make the Nissan Leaf electric car appear unreliable by starting a race with a partially depleted battery. Host Jeremy Clarkson reportedly defended the manipulation as "how television works." The hosts compare this to a previous controversy involving Tesla.

top gear· nissan leaf· jeremy clarkson· electric cars· tesla

1:52:01 Because everyone's on vacation. Well, I get like six weeks vacation, seven weeks vacation, something like that. Yeah. Douchebags. So like what we didn't mention at the beginning of the show is this program really only works with your help and we are not fake such as Top Gear. Did you hear about this? No, Top Gear was busted? Yeah, they were busted. So they're always harping on the battery cars which of course is cool because you know we think they suck too. But they had the Nissan Leaf and the way they set it up is they were going to do a race, a distance race, and the Leaf ran out of juice and of course you had people pushing the car across the finish line. Yeah, they did the same thing with the Tesla, they ran out of juice. Yeah, Tesla I think actually sued them for that. But in the video you see that the battery level was 40% down before they started the race.

1:53:03 So this turns into a, you know, Nissan Leaf is like, oh very funny, but you know, you screwed us. Making it look like our electric car is a piece of crap. And Jeremy Clarkson, when confronted with the facts, said, yeah I knew it, but hey, this is how television works. That's your show that you all love so much, because it's so awesome and it's so fair and it's so right on. Adios, mofo. So I will play the mind-controlling jingle in a moment. Dvorak.org slash NA. Please help us out, we need it desperately.

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, 333 Coin, New Titles

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for top donors Benjamin Caudill, David Lee, and Janice Kang. The hosts promote the new "333 coin" and update the traditional "Hookers and Blow" sign-off to "Booze and Hot Pants."

knighting· roundtable· sir benjamin caudill· sir david lee· black dame janice kang

1:53:44 Birthdays today, Sir Pete Snakes, he celebrates and he's congratulating himself and Matthew Wilber congratulates himself as his birthday is tomorrow on the 12th. Happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show everybody! Now open your mind. Dvorak.org.slash.na Please, help a brother out. You can be part of the show. Go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org, channeldvorak.com, noagenda.nation, where you can also pick up a coin while you're there. Yeah, the new 333 coin, and please help us out, particularly during the summer months when lots of people are on vacation. I can see the listening numbers are down. It's normal.

1:54:34 But that's when we actually need the help because it's not like my rent went down. Did yours go down? John, you don't have rent. Do you own that house? Do you have a mortgage? Yeah, we pay a monthly fee. It goes up and down and flops around. It's terrible. Your mortgage fee? Yeah, just because everybody's got variable interest so it goes up and down. Actually, it's pretty low, but... What do you pay, like 5%? I don't know. I have no idea. Wait, so if interest rates all of a sudden should skyrocket, which is unlikely, but if it happened, then you'd be screwed? Probably. Cool. All right. Be cool. Be cool. Hey, pull out your blade, old man. Come on. You have a black knife here. You got that down on there? I sure do. Janice Kang, please step forward. David Lee, step forward. And Benjamin Caudill, extend your fingers, everybody. As we are very proud of your support of the No Agenda podcast, the best podcast in the world, and hereby knight thee.

1:55:35 As Sir Benjamin Caudill, Sir David Lee, and Black Dame Janice Kang, welcome to the Knights of the Noah-Jenner Roundtable. Please enjoy your booze and hot pants. Hot pants? It's my new one, booze and hot pants. I thought, I thought, uh, Hookers and Blow was old. I think we should go to booze and hot pants. Alright, it's fine with me. Hot pants should be coming, making a comeback. It's time, right? Yeah, it cycles upon us. So, big controversy! Big controversy everybody! Let's all get pissed off, let's all get angry! What are we angry about? Well, something that we pointed out on a previous episode of No Agenda, that the makers of The Hurt Locker, the award-winning movie, which if you ask any military man who has been in Iraq or Afghanistan will say, yeah, okay,

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

The Hurt Locker, Osama bin Laden Movie Controversy

Director Kathryn Bigelow faces criticism for her upcoming film about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, with Representative Peter King expressing concern over classified leaks. The Pentagon confirms a long-standing "Hollywood liaison" office exists to assist filmmakers with military projects, raising questions about government-sponsored propaganda.

kathryn bigelow· the hurt locker· osama bin laden· pentagon· peter king

1:56:33 You're glamorizing a piece of crap sandbox where we don't know what we're doing and it sucked in general most military personnel don't like that movie and So now we've got Them doing the killing of Osama bin Laden What hello? Nothing go on. Well, we're what just walk off yet something else to do now The dog was coming over here to whine and moan sure. I told JC to get him out of here or her get rid of that dog No, it's just gonna So Who is it? Well, there's the people are bent out of shape about this and of course CNN has this reporter this older

1:57:23 woman who's in the Pentagon. I guess she has like an office with a green screen. I'm not quite sure how it works, but she's reporting from the Pentagon. She's got like pretty colors behind her and she talks about this so-called controversy and it was even brought up in Spokeswoman Carney's The Question Time. as uh... it's representative peter king who was all been out of shape about this that peter king is on the uh... the intelligence and security uh... committee and he doesn't want anyone talking about uh... those are the line at all from the government about how this went down pretty mainly because he's pissed off early cuz he doesn't know anything about it and now they're making this movie out of it and then they would have been a movie that i just before obama's election right two thousand twelve it's the new october surprise

1:58:14 Well, what we know is officials are telling us that Kathryn Bigelow, the award-winning director of that movie, The Hurt Locker, about the war in Iraq, has spoken with administration officials about... Is that a woman or a man? That's a woman. Okay, new project to make a movie about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden She by all accounts has had some meetings has talked to people about it We are told here at the Pentagon is her project is still we're talking Hollywood in the development phase She doesn't have a script yet. She doesn't have specifics yet. You should I think a transsexual that person and when you see her it's possible and

1:58:54 It's possi- I said, you know, well, yeah it's possible. Not that it matters, but I'm just saying. No, no, no, but I think she should wear a badge. in the pro the project possibly developing the script to go ahead and make the movie uh... not unusual there is a right down the hall from where we broadcast here in the pentagon time maybe twenty steps away is a hollywood liaison office which uh... works with filmmakers with television networks that want to make programs are movies about the u s military works with them to give them advice and thoughts and if they want to pay for it possibly with approval even giving them some military equipment they have to reimburse for that very long-standing tight relationship between hollywood and the and and the u.s. military yeah no kidding hey maybe we can get some uh... equipment john we have to we have to reimburse for the military gets a white guns some cool stuff again anywhere and i uh... it's adam korean johnson work were from hollywood and we're here for our share needed to make

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Pakistani News, Bin Laden Raid Discrepancies

A Pakistani witness near the Abbottabad compound claims that no one was taken from the site of the Bin Laden raid because the only helicopter that landed crashed. The hosts discuss discrepancies in the official narrative and investigate the background of journalist Nicholas Schmidl, who wrote a detailed account of the mission.

pakistan· abbottabad· osama bin laden· helicopter crash· nicholas schmidl

1:59:57 So this all kind of comes in at the same time. So we've had all this glorification of the killing of Osama bin Laden. By the way, there's a very interesting YouTube video which... well, here's the audio from it. So obviously I can't understand what the guy is saying, but that's why I play it because I'd like people to go and take a look and see if you can see what he's really saying because according to... The chicken down the street is really tasty. Well actually I'm gonna get it for you. The translation is pretty crazy. Hold on.

2:00:47 As a guy from Pakistan, his name is Mr. Bashir. His home is in front of Osama's house. He says we watched the whole operation from the roof of the house and he rushed to the house. Of three, only one helicopter landed after 10 to 20 minutes and they tried to lift up. It crashed and the two other helicopters flew away. He rushed to the house, saw dead bodies of 10 or more people and within 20 minutes the Pakistani army came. He says that he is 100% sure they did not take Osama Bin Laden if he was because the helicopter crashed, nothing else lifted off. So I'd like people to... This is from a Pakistani news report.

2:01:37 So I'd love people to go and check that out. So there's a lot of weirdness going around this. Then we have that Nicholas Schmidl is actually going to be a PDF in the show notes at 329er.nashownotes.com. Our producer Robert Lether is working on finding out where Nicholas Schmidl's You know what his real background is and it's you know went to all these schools American University Yet he doesn't show up in the alumni list etc. So there's a lot of Hollywood trickery going on around this whole Osama bin Laden thing and The latest one is now we had we had the Apparently the team six Navy SEALs crash, right?

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Chinook Crash, Vimana Theory, Russian Intelligence

Following the deaths of 22 Navy SEALs in a Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan, the hosts present an alternative theory involving the discovery of a "Vimana"—an ancient flying craft. Citing purported Russian intelligence, the discussion suggests the helicopters were obliterated by an ancient power source rather than shot down by an RPG.

navy seals· chinook· afghanistan· vimana· ancient technology

2:02:21 And this was supposed to be the exact same guys who did this Osama Bin Laden raid. Then we had a second crash with a Chinook. 33 killed on board of that. And then all of a sudden we get the report saying, hey, you know those guys who killed our guys? We killed those guys. And then this. Well, Wolf, what we have learned today is those Navy SEALs were not on a rescue mission as we were first led to believe. The 22 Navy SEAL commandos killed when their helicopter was shot down by the Taliban weren't on one of their usual secret assault missions. Military sources confirmed the SEALs were called in to chase down a group of Taliban on the run. Army Rangers already on the ground were looking for a Taliban leader when some insurgents started to escape. The Rangers didn't need rescuing, they just called for backup.

2:03:16 That's contrary to what some military sources said just after the crash when they suggested the SEALs were helping pin down troops. It's all raising questions why so many SEALs were on a single vulnerable helicopter. Okay, so now it's not 33, it's 22. I'm going to assert That all of this is a lie. Because it always happens. When they're lying about it... I'm not giving you credit for this. Hold on. This is not the story. I'm going to tell you what really happened. And what happened. These Chinooks were not shot down. They were obliterated. Here's what happened. These SEALs and military specialists were sent in because they discovered a Vimyana.

2:04:11 in this area now the me on a if you know what it is they spell it v i m a with uh... squiggly line and a viana you can consult the book of knowledge it's also known as a time well a white time well day if you look at the sanskrit uh... drawings it is that uh... kind of pointed space look the space uh... spaceship looking craft with uh... with one a single occupant on board So they found one of these. Stop it. They found one of these and they tried to take it away. It was in a mountain and it zapped him.

2:04:58 It has this perpetual power source and that in combination with the solar activity we've had recently, it actually completely zapped the first Chinook and the second one as they tried to take this thing away from where it's been kept for like 5,000 years. Vimyana. Okay. I'm telling you. Is it V-I-M or V-I-N? Victor India Mike A with a squiggly line November Alpha Vimyana. This is this is what's going on. So that's why there's all these lies about and and no one's as the full story Well, I was shot down. It was you know, I didn't it crashed. Oh was one guy with an RPG No, it was then and then a second one

2:05:44 So you're asserting that we're in Afghanistan because there's a time well that we can use as a wormhole to get more fishes into the ocean or something like that? No, I'm not asserting that. I'm saying that conveniently, that's one of the things we were going to go get. Where did you get this one? From Russia. From Russia? From the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service. I have a direct line to them. Alright, I think it's entertaining. It's a possibility. I mean, anything's possible. Don't think it's well actually well, I think it's a lot more feasible. Yeah, I think it's a lot more fun of my say Thank you. Could somebody please send me that clip? I want it for my clip show Vimy Anna yeah be on the lookout for it and so why would the Navy SEALs all in the same chopper? But again, were they Vimy Anna? Specialists they had specialists on board. What's a specialist mission?

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Falcon HTV-2, Hypersonic Flight Test, Lost Contact

The U.S. Air Force launches the Falcon HTV-2, an unmanned hypersonic aircraft capable of traveling at 20 times the speed of sound, from Vandenberg Air Force Base. Ground crews lose contact with the craft shortly after separation from its Minotaur rocket. The hosts speculate on the craft's true destination and purpose.

falcon htv-2· vandenberg· hypersonic· darpa· minotaur rocket

2:06:41 To go with the same seals that are going after that that thing down in this then that ocean hole that you keep talking about no no no no no no no Because it would make sense these seals because they would be underwater and so you need these underwater guys would be the experts You know mock me all you want. I mean would you think this is crazy when I told you that today? launching today from it was actually postponed it was supposed to launch yesterday and You hear about this thing? Yeah, Vandenberg sent up that crazy little device again I was supposed to be getting. It's the Falcon. It's gonna do New York to LA or it can do New York to LA in 12 minutes. They're launching it off the back of a Minotaur rocket. It'll separate and it'll then take 12 minutes to fly from New York to Los Angeles. They're launching it off of... Yeah, right. They're launching it off the back of a Minotaur. It's gonna be launched off of Vandenberg which should have been launched between 7 and 1 today.

2:07:39 I have not heard anything. I have a guy that's there who's gonna text me as soon as it gets shot up, but I don't think it's gonna shoot over the Bay Area. I've been looking out the window. No, it's gonna go way up. You won't see it actually separate, I don't think. It makes it... Minotaur is a high-speed solid fuel rocket. It's so smoky. There's no way you won't see it. Well, you'll see the rocket. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna talk about. I just wanna see the rocket. I'm not gonna see the little device. I'd love to see that thing separate and fly, man. Yeah, I would too. Hey, your mic is sounding kinda weird. Really? Yeah, it's got that, like, your cable modems interfering with it again. Oh, well, I haven't seen it move this around.

2:08:32 The keyboard could be the keyboard good news everybody while John is doing that I want you to right after the show go to three top three Oh, it has been launched already. Hey, did you get your text message? You know, I left the phone downstairs I Missed my text message, but the thing is I wouldn't been launched already. I should be seeing it if it's going this way I guess is not There's good news. I want you to go right after this program airs or if you're hearing it on the podcast, go to 329er.nashownotes.com for your free 30-day trial of Abilify. Link right there in the show notes. If you're an adult who has been taking an antidepressant for six weeks or more and still feel depressed, ask your doctor if adding Abilify to your antidepressant may be an option for you. You can get a 30-day free trial plus continued savings

2:09:28 What do you do sounds like a commercial yeah abilify.com it is a commercial I want to make sure everyone gets their free abilify. Yeah, give it to your animals I don't have out of any animals. It's crazy. They're giving it away now. They shouldn't be doing that. It should be illegal yeah, speaking of which the I guess there's a lawsuit pending now about the fluoridation of the Southern California water 12 minutes. Oh, no. Oh, they lost contact. That's interesting. Ooh They lost got word on the rocket. They lost contact in 12 minutes of the whole rocket or of the separated Who's flying is this thing? Is this flying like a drone? Oh, this is very vague Hey, listen if this thing crashes, you know what to do

2:10:23 Go over to West Virginia. Yeah, get yourself some of that stuff off of that thing. Stomp on any transmitters. Right, John? Tell us how to do it. What I forgot what was my you just find things and stomp on them? What did I say if one of these things crashes like the blimp? Oh, yeah, the first thing Oh, right if one of these things crashes in your backyard You got to go run to it find the transmitter which you have a little antenna and stomp it so that people can't find it and then scrounge the parts and sell them on eBay. There you go Yeah, there's the... I'm seeing if I can find it here. I guess I can't find... Oh yeah, here it is. Here's the story by the way. A test flight of an unmanned aircraft that can travel at 20 times the speed of sound launched successfully Thursday morning from the US Air Force Base in California, but lost contact with ground crews shortly into the flight. Oh, so it actually did separate and now this thing is flying at 20 times the speed of light and they can't see it? They can't talk to it? Speed of sound, yeah. Yeah, nice.

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

Fluoridation Lawsuit, Southern California Water

The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California faces a lawsuit for using hydrofluorosilicic acid in its water fluoridation program. The hosts describe the substance as an unapproved, corrosive, and poisonous acid, linking it to their ongoing concerns about the "drugging" of the American population.

fluoride· southern california· hydrofluorosilicic acid· lawsuit· poisonous

2:11:26 36 minutes after launch the Falcon HTV-2 lost contact. Yeah, right. Yeah, this thing is up on the moon base already. It's docking. They're having a beer. They're having a beer. Here it is. Metropolitan Water District of Southern California sued for illegal use of an unapproved drug to fulfill the fluoridation program. Oh yeah! So they, not only are they fluoridating your water, but they're doing it with an unapproved drug. No wonder I feel so good being out of town for so long. Yeah, well you're getting that LA water. Let me see what the drug is called. Oh, by the way, I met the guy who sent you the Merck book too. He was at the Chicagoland meetup. Cool. I did. I thanked him for invaluable information. Hydrofluo-silicic acid.

2:12:24 You want to look it up? Hydrofluorosalicylic acid? Hydrofluorosalicylic acid? Silicic. Silicilic? Not salicylic? No. Here's the spelling. Hotel Yankee, Delta, Romeo, Oscar, Foxtrot, Lima, Uniform, Oscar, Sierra, India, Lima, India, Charlie, India, Charlie. Well I lost track with this, after this, this... And you call yourself a ham? You call yourself a ham? I use my own code. Hydro. You got hydro. I got that. Get to fluoro. I got F-L-U-O-S. I-L-I-C-I-C. An unsustainable fluorosilicic. Silicic. Silicic.

2:13:15 And the definition I have is an unstable poisonous corrosive acid. It gets watered down. That's funny. He usually doesn't act this way when I give him the Folgers crystals. Thanks, Southern California. I'm gonna look it up on Merc and see what it says. Doesn't sound good to me. That's for sure. My goodness. I well speaking of groovy things for you. I found a very interesting video that that's harshly criticized as Michelle Obama our first lady her let's move campaign as it's actually Making fat kids targets now you considered this It said do it. No. I don't know. I'm not getting it keep explaining well instead of me explaining Why don't we listen to the woman who can explain it for us?

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

Michelle Obama, Let's Move Campaign, Bullying

Critics argue that First Lady Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" campaign inadvertently targets and marginalizes children with "higher body weight." The segment suggests that the focus on eliminating childhood obesity provides a social license for bullying and psychological distress among children.

michelle obama· let's move· childhood obesity· bullying· body weight

2:14:15 Then along came the well-intentioned but somewhat misdirected Let's Move campaign, led by our own First Lady Michelle Obama. What I mean by misdirected is that rather than educating and encouraging our nation to create healthy practices for all children, focusing on the health of all our children, Children of higher body weight have been singled out and the focus of the campaign is on weight reduction and not on improving children's health. Well, how are they marginalized?

2:14:53 Studies indicate that children of higher body weight are 65% more likely to be bullied than children of lower body weight. When our first lady said that we have to wipe out childhood obesity in one generation, she essentially gave permission to everyone to condemn the children with higher body weights. That's the new name for it. I'm not fat, I have a higher body weight. I like it. How this translates in real life is that these children experience more ridicule, more teasing, more bullying, and the perpetrators feel justified in their actions because after all, the first lady said these kids have to go. When children of higher body weight hear we have to wipe out childhood obesity in one generation,

2:15:49 For them, those words translate to, we have to eliminate obese children. We must eliminate the obese... and you know what? I bet that's her intention! Yeah, that is it. That's the message. Hey, you know, this is so obvious. I'm telling you, this is not... Kill the fat. This is not... eat the fat. This is... eat the children of higherbodyweight.com. This is not a mistake. This was meant this way! They hear your body is bad. They hear thin equals good, fat equals bad. Bad. They hear your body is bad.

2:16:34 you are fat. I believe that was not the intention of the first lady to cause more pain and suffering for these children, but I also believe that this is one of the consequences of focusing on reducing body size as opposed to improving health. Other consequences include poor body image, body dissatisfaction, low self-esteem, bullying, disordered eating, Okay, depression right lower expectations for future success and Sometimes even suicide Okay, that's enough So I'll do something more interesting I know what do you mean the the more interesting the first lady trying to have fat kids be killed

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Area 51, Annie Jacobsen, Nazi Technology Hoax

Author Annie Jacobsen's book on Area 51 proposes that the 1947 Roswell crash was actually a Soviet hoax involving Nazi-designed aircraft and surgically altered children. According to Jacobsen's source, Joseph Stalin intended to create a "War of the Worlds" style panic in the United States to demonstrate superior psychological warfare capabilities.

area 51· annie jacobsen· roswell· stalin· nazi technology

2:17:27 Come on, that's it. I got another ridiculous story then all right the ridiculous area Tell me if you've heard this fifth area 51 story ever in your life. It's and now by the way This is a clip of a woman and Jacobson who wrote a book called a 51 I've read the book out Let me let me tell you what it is. Okay, okay? Without listening to the clip and yes, I buy into it area 51 was actually about Nazi aircraft that looked like flying saucers and and uh... it was so six to one of these crashed and the whole mean was so successful about it being an alien flying saucer that our u s government propagated that mean even though at the end of the day it was about uh... as uh... some kind of weird nazi aircraft not really uh... and i mean it was a weird nazi aircraft involved in the the real backstory she said the funny thing is she tells this in the clip that she could brings this crazy thing up at the very end of the book

2:18:26 but this is a woman who uh... and i want to speak prefaces i had this is about a ten minute clip that i had to cut to death because this woman is the worst morse most verbose blowhard lab lab lab lab i had a cut cut cut to get to the to the core of this but but this this old summarizes i think a little better than you just did okay but that's not why area fifty one is still class So why keep this base secret? And I lean into my reader and I say, here's why I think the base is secret. And this came to me from a source. And in the last seven pages I tell you what that source said to me from one man's oral history.

2:19:10 The source was an engineer for EG&G. He was a member of the Manhattan Project and the source told me that in 1951 he was one of five engineers that was asked to solve what is called a wicked engineering problem. And the source told me that he was one of the five people who received the equipment from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and that was originally what crashed in Roswell. And that it was a flying, circular-shaped aircraft. It was not from Mars, it was from Russia.

2:19:49 and it was actually a, originally a Third Reich design. And so this flying disc, according to the engineer from EG&G, was something that had crashed in New Mexico and the intent was for it to be a hoax. that Stalin, and again we're in 1947 here when we're talking about the Roswell crash, 1947 Stalin did not yet have an atomic weapon, Truman did, they were bitter rivals, and so Stalin made a move, fired a warning shot over Truman's bow, so to speak, to say you may have the atomic bomb, but I have psychological warfare.

2:20:37 and a la the war of the worlds he wanted to send this flying disc to land in New Mexico and have people come out that looked like aliens and the EG&G engineer told me that the child-sized pilots inside were the result of ghastly human experiments in the Soviet Union. Right, so that's basically the story I told you but only correctly. I've read this book And, you know, the Area 51 people hate this woman because of course they want to believe. I think she's right. And you know who interviewed her? Molly Wood interviewed this woman. I think the interview is still out there somewhere. And by the way, in the morning to Molly Wood. You don't think she listens to this show? I know she does. She's slowing in the mornings on Buzz Out Loud.

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

MK Ultra, Human Experimentation, Fort Detrick

The discussion turns to documented instances of government-led human experimentation, including the injection of plutonium into children and the CIA's MK Ultra program. The hosts explore theories regarding the origins of AIDS at Fort Detrick and the use of biological agents as weapons, citing various declassified documents and historical reports.

mk ultra· human experimentation· plutonium· fort detrick· aids

2:21:33 She's doing yeah on her own. She may have heard it a couple times. She listens to the show. She's politically No, no, no, she's changed. She's completely changed. No way. Uh-uh. She's from Montana No, no, she was temporarily confused and I she also last time she stayed at the house. She didn't bring the bamboo utensils either that berkeley crap and on now yeah so uh... i think you believe you did well i know there's a story i believe that she she goes on with another little assertion and then this one you tell me if you've heard this one she's did this is the clip a c experimenting on the retarded

2:22:13 and so i looked this up because i was thinking wow is that because i know that we've done and i think i have a couple of of the gov show no links that they have all the crazy government experiments that have been done on the public unbeknownst to the public and she mentions this thing out because she's trying to identify you know this crazy experiments supposedly a stall and it to make these midgets and uh... so she just i think it was actually a it was actually a throwback to uh... manila She actually drops this bomb here in this area 51 B clip fact-checking source is what the Atomic Energy Commission did during its tenure and the reckless human experimentation that they did

2:22:56 There's, you know, President Clinton put together a commission in the 1990s after a reporter named Eileen Wilson revealed that the Atomic Energy Commission had been experimenting, injecting retarded children with plutonium at a state school in Massachusetts. And, you know, I see all the faces. Everyone's like, oh, God, how horrible. And people really don't want to hear about that. And they turn the other way and they say, That's just horrible and kind of go on. And you know, I felt as a journalist that by, I believe what my source told me and I believe that what he told me, the reason that he told me what he told me was because it was a matter of conscience.

2:23:36 the other four engineers are dead. And so it's just him. He was very clear about that. And so if a debate or a discussion ensues as to whether or not this kind of a program could go on, how long it went on for, I feel that's an important discussion and it's why I chose to write about it in my book. Okay, here's the... Wait, before you say anything, here's the problem I have with the thesis to begin with. She says that Stalin wanted to do a little psychological warfare with this hoax and so they look and by the way It doesn't make some sense because people who saw the original crash that there was weird writing on it, which could be Cyrillic anyway, the By landing a flying saucer in New Mexico and have New Mexico and having these little green men walk out New Mexico really

2:24:31 I think that was an accident. I think the New Mexico thing that it crashed and then they wanted to... That's when they came up with the idea for the hoax. I don't think it was set up with a hoax in mind at first. The whole thing though I think is plausible. I like it. I really like the injecting retarded kids. That's cool. That was the actual beginning of... Just take your medicine. Just take your medicine. And that takes that takes me back to something you and I discussed right after Sunday show because you know I follow all this MK ultra stuff and MK ultra is essentially the government injecting people with all kinds of stuff and mind controlling them and you have what is known as the presidential model and we were talking about Willow Bay who used to work for CNN and got kicked off and

2:25:31 Or she got replaced or whatever and she is creepy yet beautiful to look at and and who she married to now are the Disney guy Iger yeah the CEO of Disney Iger right and you look at her and she is complete she's a presidential MK ultra model and so these these experiments yeah the government has even apologized for doing this Clinton came out and apologized for that we've been experimenting on our slaves forever Yeah, in fact there's two links in the show notes that have lists of these experiments. I mean you can just start reading this stuff off. You know CIA beginning the study of LSD as a potential weapon in 1947. There were some drops of some various bacteria over San Francisco and New York. There's a bunch of experiments. Here's one, some germs to see how the bacillus globulin

2:26:26 Giggly or whatever it is over San Francisco the parents ever sister's been used a lot. Yeah, and what does that tell you? I don't know they're all Democrats now what happened? Yeah, it's easy Here it is CIA experiments of the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDF the like hexofluorosis is still a gas the FDA in Washington Robert Stop stop. This is a good one here. Listen to this one. Dr. Robert McMahon of the Department of Defense And this is a document request from Congress ten million dollars to develop within five to ten years Figure that out a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists. Yeah, it's called AIDS

2:27:16 In 1975, the virus section of Fort Detrick Center for Biological Warfare Researches renamed Frederick Cancer Research Facilities in place under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute. Here it is that a special virus cancer program was initiated by the U.S. Navy purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It's here that retrovirologists also isolate a virus to which no immunity exists, is later renamed HTLV. Anyway, it goes on and on. It's a very interesting reading. And the funny thing was that both the New York Times actually reported in the 80s, and I remember seeing this, and that the Russians were absolutely convinced that Fort Detrick, one of the Maryland research facilities, there was some, I can't remember the name of it, the Maryland research facility, it's this one probably.

2:28:04 Developed AIDS is just a known fact to them and then of course they've had since then and then this is you know never been proven Nobody can prove anything Of course, yeah, unless you want to do the head not provable And if anybody did prove it they would get to do they had there's no doubt about it's all suppositions is all interesting and And but I was like the way they reverse engineer trying to prove that AIDS actually existed in monkeys at the turn of the century and they found a dead guy that you know they resumed his body from 1903 and he had AIDS, you know, no one ever explained it then but no explanation why I saw his son become so rampant. So, alright, so basically we have a couple of things here. One, hoaxes from governments, I'm down with that.

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Episode 329 Outro, Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode from their respective locations in Ohio and California. They remind listeners to support the show's value-for-value model and announce the next broadcast for Sunday.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· ohio· silicon valley· no agenda

2:28:51 Two MK Ultra Slaves named Will Obey. Hello. That's just too obvious. Will Obey. And we have a government putting hexafluorosilicic acid into our water. We've got chemtrails overhead and we've got the first lady trying to kill fat kids. Hello, and that we just lost a missile this morning or the little rocket That that's gonna be interesting. It's not a rocket. It's a it's a plane. Yes an airplane It's just flying around oh, we can't I mean it's like what is anybody in the plane or is it remote control? It says it's unmanned, but nobody know we don't know that for sure. It's all all classified So this thing could just be circling around a guy in it as we speak in a flying saucer. Oh

2:29:42 Well, it's not shaped like a flying saucer, but it's like some... it's a... It's a plane. It's a hyper-supersonic plane. Hyper-supersonic airplane that can fly above the atmosphere. I'm thinking one of the No Agenda sysadmins has taken control of it. We know let's hope not. Yeah, we don't need hey land that thing over here. I'll fly it Yeah, and it but maybe she make sure you find a little wire in there first and bust it kick it Yeah, stomp stomp on the transmitter. I bet you the pieces in there worth a lot of money All right, the No Agenda Producer Update is coming up with Miss Mickey, Gitmo Slave, Mr. Oil, and Yellow Jacket, I think. Everyone all on board there. Thank you all so much for those of you coming out to the meetups. We'll see you at the O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O

2:30:46 Coming to you from the birthplace of aviation, the great state of Ohio! In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where the sun is shining and everything's just great. I'm John C. Dvorak. Enjoy that water, John. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda.