A historic credit downgrade and a suspicious helicopter crash in Afghanistan challenge the official narratives of the American financial and military establishments.
Standard & Poor’s stripped the United States of its AAA credit rating following a contentious debt ceiling battle, sparking speculation that the downgrade was leaked to trigger a massive market crash. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and former advisor Christina Romer face intense scrutiny as theories emerge regarding a billion-dollar hedge bet designed to force a third round of quantitative easing. The Dodd-Frank Act remains at the center of the friction, with ratings agency executives like Devin Sharma allegedly resisting new federal oversight and employee testing requirements.
Journalist Nicholas Schmidl faces backlash over a New Yorker account of the Osama bin Laden raid after NPR revealed he never interviewed the Navy SEALs involved in the mission. The narrative grows more complex following a CH-47 Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan that claimed the lives of several SEAL Team 6 members, leading skeptics like Colonel Jack Jacobs to question the technical discrepancies of the flight. Meanwhile, Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge promotes a new book framing Al-Qaeda as a corporate franchise while defending her reporting on Anwar al-Awlaki’s 2002 visit to the Pentagon.
Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from the road as the Hot Pockets tour hits the American Midwest, documenting fields of genetically modified corn and windowless factory farms. The duo officially knights producers Patrick Coble and Craig Porter during a Nashville meetup that featured tinfoil hats and original music. The show concludes with a look at the WASP drone’s debut at the Black Hat conference and the rise of the Atrocities Prevention Board.
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CHAPTER 01 / 53Discussion
Gitmo Nation, Episode 328 Introduction
Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 328 of the No Agenda show on August 7, 2011. Curry reports from the "Crackpot Command Center" in Inverness, Illinois, while Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. They exchange greetings with the live chatroom audience and prepare for a two-and-a-half-hour broadcast.
00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's Sunday August 7th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 328 This is no agenda Reporting from the front lines at Gitmo Nation from the 4 Winds 5000 Crackpot Command Center in the land of Lincoln from Inverness in the great state of Illinois in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's as miserable as usual. I'm John C Dvorak It just rained here too actually we had quite a uh, quite a little downpour A gully washer! Good word good one Gully washer is big rain
00:47 In the morning to you, in the morning to you John. So in the morning to you Adam and in the morning all ships at sea! And boots on the ground and of course as always our human resources are in the chatroom at noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net They're all worth about 9.2 million dollars when they're born They are quickly depreciating but they're charged up and ready to go exactly the way their government loves them and here To help us through the next two hours 2 1⁄2 hours of the show so it looks like you beat me on this one And I'm not sick of this is a case of pre celebration. You know, this isn't karmic thing that happens to every football team that you've ever seen every winning football team? You mean the say no every every team knows she's all time. The team like his five, you know three minutes left ago and it's done now there's 30 seconds have to go and the team goes down and kicks the winning feel or looks like the winning field goal with 20 seconds to go
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U.S. Debt Ceiling, Standard & Poor's Credit Rating Downgrade
The United States credit rating was downgraded by Standard & Poor's following the raising of the debt ceiling. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner previously dismissed the risk of losing the AAA rating, calling it unassailable. Former economic advisor Christina Romer is criticized for her academic background and recent media appearances regarding the stimulus.
01:44 And they're all celebrating and spiking the ball, and then in the end. Yeah yeah And then the other team has 20 seconds left They score a touchdown and win I have seen this happen way too many times well John III didn't even want to start the show talking about the fact that I predicted quite accurately as it turns out that the debt ceiling would be raised both in you are both you and I agreed on that but that the actual rating downgrade would take place. And i just want to remind you of this little ditty if you guys don't do another QE3 or if you don't issue more bonds, if we don't get more debt on the books which we then make money from We're going to downgrade your existing bonds
02:29 Yeah, I suppose they could say something like that. They wanted to do the head John really I Had a lot of pleasure playing play you know Actually Even funnier was little Timmy Geithner when he was posed the exact same question several weeks ago. Is there a risk that the United States could lose its AAA credit rating, yes or no? No risk of that. If you listen carefully now you see the leadership of the United States of America, the Republican leadership in both houses and the Democrats recognizing now that this is the right thing to do for the economy. That we have to put in place now reforms that bring down our long-term deficits, some ways it'll help strengthen future growth and that's incredibly important recognition by people and we'd like to put something in place
03:20 as soon as we can so that we can begin that process. So Standard & Poor's is wrong, the United States will keep its AAA credit rating? You know people absolutely and people who look at the United States I mean it's unassainable people Hey! Absolutely! Absolutely! You know what was great though you remember Christie Romer She's the she was the president's economic advisor over Cal now. Yeah, she's covering her ass She's been doing this for a while to be like well We told the president before you even had his inauguration that it was gonna Be really bad he needed more money for the for the stimulus better there She's covering her butt everywhere and and let us point out once again must be quite a chore I should say Now now John And she's never had a real job. She's academic
04:08 But she was on the Bill Maher show and uh, ooh! She let out a little word. A couple of words actually including a few about Timmy So excuse my language but we used to do a segment on this show called How Fucked Are We? I didn't expect that there Just before we went on the air they said our rating got downgraded So, pretty darn... I've been hanging around Tim Geithner too long. Why? Does he swirl like a sailor? Oh like a seventh grade boy. Okay nice! By the way lot of people now suspect that the ratings downgrade
Speculation arises that the S&P downgrade was leaked prior to the Friday market close, potentially explaining the Thursday market crash. Theories regarding the downgrade include a billion-dollar hedge bet, a setup for a third round of quantitative easing (QE3), or a political maneuver to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire.
05:09 which came in friday after the market close was actually leaked. Oh on thursday that's why the market crash took place and now that it's public knowledge, in other words more than just a few insiders know about it which is illegal by the way uh-huh the monday market should be quite entertaining so A couple of things here. Now first of all, I think that you and I both agree that the ratings agencies obviously are completely compromised if... so they sent over this downgrade and then somebody at Treasury goes, well your number's wrong it's not right blahblahblahblah You know Obama just is like hey you know what? Adios mofo! I'm gonna go to Camp David for the weekend i'm not going to do anything about it
05:59 He doesn't care. So, you know this was set up and I think it can only be one of a couple of reasons One, as I surmised in my prediction there was a billion dollar hedge out there. We reported that someone had bet $1 billion dollars that the United States would get a downgrade so someone made a ton of money. I'm not sure how those instruments work or how it would happen but that would make sense Two, i think there's a distinct possibility now this is set up for QE3 ie another quantitative easing that needs to be done by the US
06:36 And three, it seems if you would think that all these guys work in collusion with each other which of course just look at the show it's obvious that this is all one big reality program. That this is probably a setup to have the Bush tax cuts expire and basically raise taxes on everybody Okay, is that it? I think that's it. Oh well I got more then. Good! But just before we continue...I would just like to hear you say it You're right Adam! Yeah there ya go Well you're right a lot so I'm not too concerned about that So yeah I looked into because I had to figure out cause you don't really have it..I dunno where you got this idea to begin with
07:28 Overall analysis is accurate. A couple of things that should be noted, one I don't think it says anything to do with QE3 because the reason you did the QE-anything was to normalize the return on investment on Treasury so the long term bond had a really low interest rate and the short term bond had a really high high interest rate relatively speaking because you don't want those numbers, you know one day that the various in Short medium and long term to be a flat line across the graph. You want it to be a line? It goes up right and qe3 is or would make it doesn't do that cuz right now the market has done it
Standard & Poor's president Devin Sharma reportedly authored an op-ed criticizing government regulation of ratings agencies. The Dodd-Frank Act contains provisions that would allow the government to regulate and test employees of these agencies. Ratings firms like Moody's and Fitch are reportedly resistant to these new federal oversight requirements.
08:07 And the bonds are selling just fine, which is why everyone was so surprised by this downgrade. In other words these treasury bonds are extremely popular right now in the world So we have to see what's really going on here and I think there is something more to this Which I also think that there is a naivete involved with it Devin Sharma, who's the president of Standard & Poor's which is owned by McGraw-Hill. Who is not the guy by the way that is out there a guy named Chambers which I thought it was the Cisco guys name John Chambers where did he come from? I looked for his name and it was like here's the guy who's responsible for the downgrade! I don't think so
08:45 He's not on the report. He's not on the board of directors I don't know who this guy is I don't know what you're talking about either But Paul Coughlin is the guy at Santa and Poor's is responsible for corporate government ratings anyway? but the guide has been making the most noise as this Devon Charman here's what I think happened in january of this year devin sharma president senator ford's road a skating op ed in the washington ordinance from wall street journal uh... bitching and then without swimming naming names are saying anything is generalize but he was bitching about government regulation of the ratings agency because they were taking a hit on all those bad mortgage right right right and so he says you can't do it you can go off and just start to work
09:30 uh... regulate you know what i think he was saying you can't regulate free speech because they're all claiming that they are just like media and it is free speech they can say whatever they want about reality it was more likely to let me give us more on these lines you can tell us how to do our business okay yeah the same thing and he what he was talking about was dodd frank right here is saying do not pass this but dodd frank so you'd still dot frank by you know it gets finalized i think in june now then goes through an hour to be its law and i saw a start to look at dot frank as the only pertinent piece of legislation could possibly be complaining about dot frank about one-third of that is regulating ratings agents ratings agencies to the point
10:17 where they are going to have government tests if you're gonna work for them. They're gonna tell you how to do it, essentially the government is taking over the ratings agencies Well, it's interesting you say that because when I looked at the websites because that's kind of where i get my information. I looked at the website for Moody's and look to the website for Fitch and for Standards & Poor's And all of them have a special news section specifically about how The Dodd-Frank bill affects their business and when you read through what you like... You don't get it! Because who understands what they're saying? But all of them are pissed off about it cause this top of their news pages
10:58 They're all pissed off about it because essentially the government is taking over I mean, essentially you read through this and tell me i'm wrong. Essentially the government is taking or they're without taking over They're essentially going to regulate they're gonna have testing You can't work for one of these agencies you have all these rules and regulations. You can't do any consulting There's a million things that there's they're doing to these rating agencies I believe that evan was irked about this And I think all their agency agencies were but the other ones are too chicken Devin Sharma is an Indian. He comes from one of those crazy Indian institutions, he's a CEO has the kind of
CHAPTER 05 / 53Discussion
S&P Downgrade Politics, Ron Paul Reaction
Political theories regarding the S&P downgrade include alleged ties between Terry McGraw III and Mitt Romney. Congressman Ron Paul expressed disappointment that the downgrade was linked to a lack of tax increases rather than a failure to control spending. The hosts suggest the downgrade may be a retaliatory move by S&P against the Obama administration's regulatory agenda.
11:35 Indian Brahmin and the Indians out there, the two Indians that listen to this show. Who don't donate, who don't send us money. They maybe don't get some of the intricacies in certain things and so he basically has them host balls yeah and comes out and basically threatens the government with his op... if you read between the lines on the Op-Ed pulls the trigger on the On the downgrade which everyone else was have been shaking in their boots when he did this and what you're why I think is still vulnerable to two to the head And then when they start attacking him with all this bogus crap about oh, you know You're not doing them right off. He says warrants are further cut front page of today's Sunday Times In other words Oh really? Don't double a really wanted one a single a bitches
12:25 Yeah, no I'll buy that. I totally buy that so it's a little down with the line I'm down with that and honestly my prediction was Purely based on The fact that I think that everyone is all playing along with this game It's all one big corrupt thing and when I saw the billion-dollar hedge come out of like alright Someone's on the inside someone knows about this is gonna happen That was really the only The only reason why I called that but I think this What you're saying having this as a? As a stick is pretty good And so what'll be interesting to see is if because Moody's can still do it downgrade if they want right I mean, they're looking at all do it. They're looking pretty stupid right now Yeah, and then tends to beat bandwagon jumping in there always they can just point the finger at this Devon guy now If I had read Dodd-Frank
13:18 And I'd read that editorial originally, and I would have been more than happy to agree with you on this whole thing knowing that since the day Dodd-Frank... When Dodd-Frank passed. It was just before Dodd-Frank finally passes when you had all these threats if you don't notice or you know You can get downgraded, you can get downgraded, you can get downgraded and the government apparently was oblivious of the fact They're trying to tell them not to pass this thing. They passed it, boom they got downgraded. I think there's a possibility of a second downgrade if this is going to continue and this guy has really taken a chance. theories out there one from which showed up on Huffington Post and was tweeted on a tweeters all over the place saying oh this is real easy Terry McGraw the third supports Mitt Romney that's why this is happening I'm like what
14:08 So there are people out there, you know techno experts tweeting this bullcrap. That's a good one Yeah, and you know and so I actually followed it like okay Let me see nowhere can this be found? But you know they're saying that there was some kind of stealth company that was created out of Bayon and McGraw has something to do with that, and they donated a million dollars to Romney. And then the company was absolved it's like wow man you know people the Democrats who always talk about us being conspiracy theorists there they're really bad their disinformation ists and then Ron Paul which
14:47 you know i wish he would have brought if what you were just said it come out of ron paul's mouth that would've been really happy instead he said this when we were working on raising the debt limit over my objection they kept saying well if you don't raise the debt limit uh... we're gonna downgrade your so be ready to get limits but they can't break which means that spending is not under control but the other thing that bothered me as I read where S&P said that one of the reasons they downgraded was that we weren't accepting tax increases. So there's a lot of confused economic ideas out there, but I think we're in for a lot of trouble which is what i've been saying for a long time." Okay that part is right of course but... and like now really? Are you really going to take this seriously? That was disappointing to me! He should have just said it's all bogus
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Nicholas Schmidl, Bin Laden Raid Narrative Skepticism
Journalist Nicholas Schmidl's New Yorker article about the Osama bin Laden raid is scrutinized for its cinematic tone and factual accuracy. NPR issued a clarification noting that Schmidl never actually spoke to any Navy SEALs involved in the mission. Schmidl's father is revealed to be Lieutenant General Robert E. Schmidl Jr. of the U.S. Cyber Command.
15:38 What he should have said. Yeah, he just said it's all bogus and he didn't say that unfortunately what is bogus is this huge psyops campaign that is being run against certainly the American slaves and the world at large now on the last program we talked about this guy who wrote this New Yorker magazine article what's-the-name Schmidl Schmidl schmiddel schmiddle what's his first name middle thing it's schmidle yeah and it will you know and actually is funny because you know I was making fun of how he wrote this like tent Tom Clancy kind of novel about the attack on Osama bin Laden now he's talking about the helicopter pilots say of helos to which was filmed from the ground apparently Nicholas schmiddle
16:33 He's like, oh I had my noise cancelling headsets on. All I could hear was the heartbeat of my own heartbeat and I got a couple emails from airmen Navy and Marine pilots And they said you know we do have noise cancelling headsets but A those things suck! And I really wish I had my Dave Clarkes back because you can hear a lot more than just the thumping of your heartbeat So that was kind of funny. But this guy, as it turns out he did a big interview on our national treasure NPR and even the NPR host I don't have a clip of it because just too stupid Was like you know You do all these interviews and you've got all this information And blah blah blah they even had to post a retraction which they only did on their website with one little blurb saying just to clarify Nicholas Schmidle never ever spoke to any of the Navy SEALS not a single one
17:26 And I challenge people to find for me the background on this guy. No one sent me any emails, thanks for that but here's what i found out Nicholas Schmidl's father is Marine Corps Lieutenant General Robert E. Schmidl Jr., Deputy Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command What's the cyber? What's the cyber what's the Cyber Command? Yeah, it's just another money sucking scheme from Besides that yeah. You know but he's always a hot answer that to any question I asked yes That's what I do No, but he's a high-ranking guy This whole thing was completely bogus obviously yeah, I think psyops is the word well I have a couple more But of course what happens
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Chinook Helicopter Crash, Navy SEAL Team 6 Casualties
A CH-47 Chinook helicopter was reportedly shot down in Afghanistan, killing members of Navy SEAL Team 6. The timing of the crash is questioned in relation to the bin Laden raid narrative and an upcoming Hollywood film by the creators of The Hurt Locker. Skeptics suggest the event could be a "two to the head" scenario to eliminate witnesses.
18:14 is we get this horrible report that a Chinook 40 CH-47E which is a really big aircraft was shot down by Taliban of course the mystical magical Taliban and on board Were the team members of Navy Team Seal 6 who did the Osama Bin Laden raid? I mean could you come up with a better two to the head scenario than that. You know it was like, we got all this stuff We've gotta make people believe That this really happened There's something else i found So there is this movie The People Who Made The Hurt Locker What are their names again Let me see...I've got it here
19:01 Let me find it for you. You know, the Hurt Locker right? Yeah, the Hurt Locker! Didn't that win the Academy Award? Yeah it did. So those two filmmakers have been given unprecedented access to the CIA and special ops by the President directly They're actually showing up in meetings and they're taking meetings with the CIA to make this movie about the killing of bin Laden Oh God, yeah. Oh, yeah So of course this happens and immediately The tweeters are all alive everyone's freaking out like oh, and of course I get a million emails saying well there you go That's how you get rid of evidence Yeah And I'm in total agreement on that
19:42 So they roll out as many guys as they can, and you'll hear that this guy is a total nincompoop douche nozzle who knows nothing. He doesn't know anything! His only message is to say not a single one of the Navy SEAL Team 6 members was on that chopper That is the only reason why he's being brought on to this news program. Good morning to you Jack, okay this is some pretty serious... He's a colonel retired colonel right? Jack Jacobs hey! Jack Jacobs everybody in the morning here to give you some PSYOPT information stand by. Jeff give me an update on what we know well we think it's probably at MH47E It's the kind of CH-47 twin rotor
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Jack Jacobs, Helicopter Crash Technical Discrepancies
Colonel Jack Jacobs discusses the technical aspects of the Chinook crash on news media, claiming the aircraft is easy to shoot down with small arms or RPGs. Discrepancies emerge regarding whether the helicopter clipped a wall or suffered a mechanical failure. The use of a large Chinook for a special operations mission is questioned compared to the stealth Blackhawks used in the Abbottabad raid.
20:21 helicopter that's frequently used in special operations the report from Hamid Karzai was that it was... by the way, I don't believe that is true this is not an aircraft you use for special operations. This is like an aircraft carrier in the sky It's like you want to let people know that you're coming? No, you're not going to fly a Chinook 47. But okay! Let's continue to listen... A special operations helicopter and it was engaged in an operation against the built-up area The Taliban has claimed responsibility for shooting it down but it is not clear whether or not it was shot down or just crashed You remember when our operation went against Osama Bin Laden one of the helicopters there
21:04 It's rotor clipped the wall inside the compound. Oh really? Well this is new! So we went from vortex ring state, which incorrectly Nicholas Schmidl called settling with power... To the one of the rotors clipped a wall and that's why they crashed Yeah, but there was even a pre story to the vortex story What was that which is the motor or something crapped out because it was a stealth device Which I think is the truth. I think they had all this gear hanging off of just guy didn't have enough power But for this guy to say this means that either a he's really on the inside and knows something that happened but I don't believe so because if you know, it's not like Like a toy helicopter where oh You know the the rotor clipped the chair in the living room and it just falls down If if you clip a rotor. I mean your everything is gonna disintegrate This thing is just no your rotor blades will fly in all directions. You'll have
22:05 people being flooded i mean it's that's a horrible horrible thing when you when the rotor blade hits actually hit something so that's not true because that uh... the profile of the accident what we know that does not show that some to call this guy bull crap on the guy be replaced by another but it is easy to shoot these helicopters down with their ideas with great ease that's why we use them in a special office is easy to shoot him down but if you look at forty five okay one yes since i got through slingshot got it 38 people killed in one crash when it's a huge number where we getting the information about they helicopter being shot down well that's coming straight from the Taliban to get good at Taliban news network on claims responsibility for
22:51 every casualty and every helicopter, every aircraft that's lost. Every mechanical malfunction Taliban claims responsibility for it but it is not outside the realm of possibility than in fact they are responsible for helicopters are extremely... Alright get to the point Jake! Especially when they're landing and taking off. They're going zero miles an hour Oh, let me I just got to stop not true So this guy actually thinks helicopters take off vertically all the time like Like an elevator no a helicopter is actually get into something called trans translational lift
23:28 and transitional lift, I'm sorry. And they fly with forward speed and once they have the transition then they pull up and then go up so there actually probably doing 30 to 40 knots it's not true! The guy doesn't know what he is talking about but he is there for a reason. They are easy to shoot down on or near the ground with small arms automatic weapons 45 there you have it John. He just shot it down with a 40, its easy! With rocket propelled grenades which are typically used against ground stationary targets and even with shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles many of which we gave to the
24:06 Taliban years ago when they were fighting the Russians it remains to be seen right now whether or not a crash that was shot down The right now the word is that it crashed but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter You've lost 37 lives 38 live. Yeah Well, I thought I had on this clip that he can get the number right? He's an idiot kind of weird. It's totally And then somewhere he said that it was not, it was absolutely not the Navy SEAL 6 team. I guess they don't have that clip here anyway So and of course the president came out with a brief statement saying we're very sorry for the lives lost which he does not do typically There are you know ten people a week getting killed in Afghanistan still getting killed in Iraq
CHAPTER 09 / 53Discussion
Bin Laden Raid, Witness Elimination Theory
A discussion explores the possibility that the helicopter crash in Afghanistan was a deliberate act to silence members of Seal Team 6. The theory posits that the official bin Laden raid narrative required the removal of individuals who could contradict the government's story.
24:54 he never doesn't typically write a little note a little less really tell the rest of the guys to shut up possibly but here's what i can stumble across this morning and now i know that the other people that no if they did their whole thing was phony dot there has to be other people in the loop allotsa people i think you're absolutely right shut-up or this could happen to you but it hurts me to think that that actually could happened at someone Says you know like well, we've got to get this story out there. We got to get people believe in this bin Laden thing We've got the movie lined up. We got Nicholas Schmidl. We got him writing a beautiful thing that everyone's buying into He's doing the rounds And now and you know what but we still got some guys who got to shut them up and Someone actually had a meeting and said well I know what we can do let's kill him
25:50 I mean it's hard for me to think that that is actually a meeting that took place. But okay... Well, we can assume either there was an out and out accident or just coincidence? It's possible. Coincidence?! I THINK NOT! Yeah, i don't think so And again, this doesn't seem... you know they used special Blackhawks for their Bin Laden raid. Why all of a sudden are we using Chinook 47Es? It's a huge aircraft! There is 40 people on board Yeah that's for Special Ops Big twin rotors I think it's the size of a football field Yeah it's really big
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Catherine Herridge, The Next Wave Book Launch
Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge appeared on C-SPAN to promote her book, The Next Wave, which focuses on American recruits for Al-Qaeda. Herridge is identified as the reporter who broke the story of Anwar al-Awlaki attending a luncheon at the Pentagon in 2002. The hosts characterize her reporting as a psychological operation to promote the "homegrown lone wolf" terror threat.
26:32 So the psyops though really hit me this morning as I'm looking at C-SPAN. I'm looking at cspan, uh... cspan.org and there's this woman Catherine Herod. Heridge or Herrod? Let me see what her name is. I think it's Herrod and uh...Herridge sorry Herridge And it turned that she has a book out and she was on the C-SPAN call in show which by the way has also now been completely compromised As you'll hear in these couple of clips I have And she's written a book called... What is it? Why can't I find the name of this book. She mentions it and she is the one that apparently wrote the article, she works for Fox News and she's a hottie! I mean she's kind of like Peter Pan looking. That's one mother I'd like to f*** with. She's got really short cropped hair. What's your name? Catherine Harridge You'll liker her immediately. She's hot
27:39 But in kind of a very crazy, I mean you look at her and go like nut ball. If you met her in the bar You'd walk away. Okay? She's going to put the shiv in my back when I'm not looking Oh yeah Yeah, I've seen her before or I'll wake up and and in lipstick on the mirror It says no I've taken your kidneys And you're in about she looks like she works for an agency well She does and she's written this book And it's all about, it's a complete psyop. She is the one that reported that Anwar al-Awlaki aka Adam Gadahn was at the Pentagon for a luncheon in 2002
28:16 So after 9-11, she's the one that reported on it. And when this came out we were like wow how did this news come out and how does this woman from Fox get this information? Well she is an agent and when you see her talk and you can find links in show notes at 328.nashownotes.com You'll be hypnotized by just looking at her She's really really good but she rolls out a meme fest John This first clip I guarantee Four new domain names will be registered and point to noagendershow.com when you hear this, check it out! The name of the book is The Next Wave... Yes that's it. On the hunt for Al-Qaeda or as the New York Times says Qaida... Qaida American recruits Yeah this is all about the homegrown lone wolf that we have to be afraid of now
29:09 And listen to her memes. So we have digital jihadists, Al Qaeda 2.0 And the person at the center of that is this American in Yemen called Anwar al-Awlaki So she's pushing Anwar al-Awlaki as the number one guy This is what I told you Is that... You know We had the other dude The old dude
29:49 But he's not he's not being positioned as number one by our intelligence sources, which is Katherine Harridge clearly Is it's all about this guy because he's also an agent This is the whole this is the whole setup and this is someone who whether he is emailing or his blogging Or his lectures are on YouTube. He's kind of like a Facebook friend from hell. I've got the Facebook friend from hell Oh, yeah She's good. That's how he spreads this ideology of hate Yeah, she's very very good So, she has callers. And I think half of them are fake and some of them get by and are real but the intent is to roll out every single theory we've spoken about on a show like ours and to debunk it without actually answering the question so here she is talking about how she broke the story of Anwar al-Awlaki attending and speaking at a luncheon at the Pentagon
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Anwar al-Awlaki, Pentagon Luncheon Controversy
Catherine Herridge defends her reporting on Anwar al-Awlaki's 2002 Pentagon visit, noting he was vetted as a "moderate Muslim" despite FBI interest in his contacts with 9/11 hijackers. A caller on C-SPAN refers to al-Awlaki as an "Emanuel Goldstein" character, a reference to George Orwell's 1984. Herridge describes al-Awlaki's return to the Pentagon as a "thief returning to the scene of a crime."
30:47 Good morning. Hi, I would say the most insidious thing is when the media refuses to look at the actual history of things or refuses once reports that in our lock he has dined at the Pentagon after 9 11 and then refuses to follow it up and now is beating the drum for this homegrown terrorism which is really where these attacks were really directed at demonizing American people on the very idea of freedom So I wish you would straighten out some of these obvious contradictions in the story about this supposed new Emanuel Goldstein character, Hanwer Al-Awlaki. We all understand around the world, anyone who's looked into it that these have been myths perpetrated on the United States. 9-11 was a psyop dedicated at reducing our ability to be sovereign individuals and sovereign nations... And while this is going on she's looking straight at the camera no emotion. So could you please comment on Anwar al-Assad having lunch with the Pentagon? So I think this was a setup call that guy sounds way too good
31:44 He hits all the points and to me that sounded like, using all the conspiracy theorist words, you know, psyops operation 9-11 psyops operation. which of course it was but that's not the point i think this guy is a is a shill and here so she answers it when we get back question because i'm glad you ask a question cuz it was in script i was the reporter who broke that story about and while lockheed uh... lunch at the pentagon as you probably know because even following it that wasn't that you worry about two thousand two and what i show on the book to documents that we obtained through the freedom information act if he would be guessed at the office of general counsel and nearly eighty people were invited to that lunch
32:24 uh... what i think is important here it that it shows to me a pattern at that time and while laki was sort of like an imam around town here in washington and was sort of feted as a moderate muslim but what i argue when the book if any evidence was to the contrary for example i reveal documents that show that right after nine eleven in that first eight days he was interviewed at least four times by the fbi so there with this would split view of him here in Washington at the very least. On the one hand, people were highly suspicious of his contacts with three of the nine hijackers on Flight 77 and then on the other hand he was seen as sort of a moderate and go-to guy to build a bridge between that world and the United States. And what I would also add—and I think you'll find interesting is that for me writing about
33:13 Pentagon was really upsetting on many levels because when you look at Anwar al-Awlaki's contacts, it was with three of the five hijackers on Flight 77 and that was the flight that slammed into the Pentagon. So when Anwar al-Awlaki was invited back there to lunch as a guest speaker on Islam in politics, A thief returning to the scene of a crime and you could imagine someone like a Lockie walking the corridors of that building, and in some respects marveling at the destruction that his guys were responsible for. She's really building it up there isn't she? Really doing a good job! No I think its great So who was Emanuel Goldstein because there was reference to that The caller called him an Emanuel Goldstien character Who is that
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Emanuel Goldstein, 1984 Literary Reference
The hosts clarify the identity of Emanuel Goldstein, noting he is the fictional "enemy of the people" in George Orwell's 1984. They also mention the real-world Emanuel Goldstein, the pseudonym of Eric Corley, who publishes the hacker journal 2600.
34:00 I don't know, let me look it up. The only Emanuel Goldstein I know ran the 2600 operation which was a hacker's journal. Well hold on a second... He was fairly famous for that but i don't think they're talking about him So who was it then? I dunno Why don't you look that up and I will continue with Miss Catherine Harridge the spy from hell Oh he's like a character in the George Orwell novel Oh of course A 1984, he's the number one enemy of the people who thought he could be a brother. Of course! Oh alright... So here she is rolling out the uh... Wait a minute hold on a second isn't that kind of an obscure reference? Yeah! Reference?! Of course this is why because these this guy was a fake caller like all right throw in a 1984 yeah yeah hey kid research that uh Emanuel Goldstein yeah that'll work who was that I don't know
35:00 Put up throw up a wiki page quick so people can look him up weird, huh? Well Is that we're really all right. Well listen to now of course because she's positioning and we're all lucky Adam Goddard as we've promised to call him and I do believe by the way before going I'm 100% with you that he is an agent Oh, yeah the same but as Possibly bin Laden. Yeah, of course of course you need to get a new guy in there It's got to be that guy not the other guy cuz that other guys real deal cannon He's the real deal He's actually al-qaeda or something like that or advertising I don't know what he is but it's no good because he's not on the payroll. He's not playing along with the game So we have to set up Al Qaeda as a huge
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Al-Qaeda Franchise, Fortune 500 Comparison
Catherine Herridge compares Al-Qaeda's structure to a Fortune 500 company that has transitioned into a franchise model similar to McDonald's. She warns of "super cells" and sleeper cells that may launch attacks to mark the 10th anniversary of 9/11. The hosts mock the corporate terminology used to describe terrorist organizations.
35:50 Huge, huge thing. Now how do we do that? We've heard this meme propagated several times...we have to compare it to a Fortune 500 company! That's how you really frighten people about this mystical Al-Qaeda thing. uh... one of the things i lay out in the book is really where the war on terror is going next and i think if you want to understand what's going probably what it's gonna take two minute this would be a book you wanna get because i said i love that by the way hate this is the book you wanna get there is a great block i wrote it is good tell is that terrorism in many respects is like water it takes the path at least resistance
36:28 and we're dealing with a thinking enemies so you move one way and it moves in other uh... it moves another and what we've seen since nine eleven is that al-qaeda which was traditionally in pakistan and we now see these franchise operations which had popped up in yemen which is where he has guys yeah it gets better american and also in somalia and then you have this homegrown component so in many respects the threat is more complex and it's more diverse because on 9-11, Al Qaeda was like a Fortune 500 company with Osama Bin Laden as the CEO. Do you think he had a corner office? Yeah, it's just like that. He had a corner office with Walnut? You think that's what he had as CEO? It's just like that exactly the same if you ever went into large corporations you'd see was exactly the same is this bullcrap and now it's much more of a franchise operation and I know since bin Laden's death there
37:25 That's really like McDonalds. Yeah, that is exactly what it is! Billions served, billions killed! Brought to you by Al-Qaeda Franchise. ...that the US intelligence community is looking at very hard number one were there plots in the pipeline before his death? Number two will homegrown I'll say or sleeper cells use his death as a justification to launch attacks as we get towards the 10th anniversary of 9 11? Or will these affiliates and countries like Somalia and Yemen kind of step up to fill the void. So I don't think it's as simple as we pull down troops or resources from one area and then we can bring it into the United States, unfortunately people who are making decisions on these issues right now really face some very tough challenges. Okay so... Wait a minute you know she says well I mentioned McDonalds and she says super cells which brings to mind Super Size! Yeah Super Size absolutely good one just kind of a borderline meme that sounds like something your familiar with
38:23 Hey, uh could I have one al-qaeda McNugget to go? What the hell's a supercell? Supercell! That's also used in the tornado movies. Oh god here comes another super cell nothing could be more deadly All we're missing is they're saying it's really hot We got a hot pocket supercell. What is a super cell? I would have stopped her right there and asked her what the hell's a super cell. Oh no, this woman who was interviewing her she has a script and you have to watch the whole thing it's like 40 minutes and i could i could have played it as an end of show clip we just sat here laughing the whole time but even better if you go to 328 dot NA show notes dot com and watch the whole thing because she's interesting to look at and she has this kind of
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Homegrown Terrorism, FBI Sting Operations
Catherine Herridge cites the Times Square bomber and the Fort Hood shooting as evidence of a rising homegrown terror threat. She describes Anwar al-Awlaki as the "Dear Abby of the jihadist world" for his role in motivating American citizens. The hosts argue that many of these cases are the result of FBI sting operations targeting individuals with limited capabilities.
39:06 you know this uh... yeah this hypnotic type quality about her which is a just highly entertaining so i had to more short clips Here she is of course now we need to move and shift the conversation from the supercells and the former fortune 500 company led by CEO bin Laden To the homegrown terror, and we need some proof that this is real. Yes ma'am It's called problem reaction solution so this guy I think actually is a real caller So he calls in and says you know this is problem reaction solution This is uh? You know this is again as a psyops question so it could be
39:42 Could be fake but he sounded real and then of course she's going to thank him for this excellent question and answer it in a way that proves that you were all stupid. Okay, let's get a response from our guests. Right Thank you for the question one of the things I lay out in this book is documentation That the Justice Department has gathered over the last couple of years And what you see in that is that there has been a documented case of homegrown terrorism and these are cases involving american citizens with some type of tied to an international terrorist organization every two to three weeks since about january two thousand nine so the numbers are there people ask me how many people are they within united states i can tell you that but i can tell you what these cases are and you see these cases following a couple different patterns one these air americans citizens who have traveled overseas
40:30 for example to pakistan or two young men to get training perhaps one of the most famous cases is a time square bomber fives alshazad this was a young man who traveled to pakistan he got his training from the taliban he came back to the united states he drove an s uv into times square and he thought he had a viable explosive device and many counter-terrorism officials will say do that they actually believe that was successful attack against the united state That was a success it like it was there was like some smoke coming out of his exhaust That was a successful attack and he actually passes that off as like a fact. Yeah, succe- you know peep it's the truth! Successful attack, successful attack, success- That was a successful attack? That was a successful attack so... How many people did it kill? Yo, it was- shut up! What exploded?! It was a successful attack. But that was a bonehead. Some baby farted it would have been more successful. Whoa aromatic poo
41:27 Throwback the only thing that could have saved us in that situation was the fact that the bomb did not detonate It couldn't detonate am I crazy that I'm I remember thing remembering this wrong But he had like none of the ingredients. It was just like smothering fucked up Yeah, oh John easy and then there are other cases where you see people launch these attacks? But they haven't had training overseas they are sort of kind of do-it-yourself operations at home yeah Do-it-yourself operation at home. That's right! Hey, hey daddy I got an idea let's do it Let's do something fun today. Yeah, I got a new hobby In some of these cases we've intercepted them or disrupted them through FBI sting operations Like the case last year the young man who tried to detonate a car bomb in a Christmas tree lighting ceremony It was it was an idiot who was set up
42:19 Total it's I mean we just a moron that was goaded. Yeah, and then get it right you have Fort Hood Fort Hood where in my opinion? It's not an accident that you had this email relationship between the alleged shooter major Nidal Hassan And Anwar Allah lucky in a lot of ways Anwar all lucky is like the dear Abby of the jihadist world I love it! The Dear Abby of the Jihadist world. Because you know if you feel like, if your down and out, you don't feel good... Hey man... People have problems or questions about their faith or motivation. I need some motivation. Dear Abby Anwar Al-Awlaki, I lonesome squirrel in Tennessee
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Al-Qaeda Tapes, Forensic Audio Reverb Claims
Catherine Herridge claims Al-Qaeda operatives tried to sell a tape to Fox News for $30,000 and that messages are often hidden on pornographic file-sharing sites. She asserts that forensic analysts found "reverb" added to an al-Awlaki tape to make it sound as if he were speaking in a large mosque rather than a closet.
43:04 The woman slays me with all these great great little analogies is fantastic way good All right. So finally then to wrap it up and I'll get off of it She talks about how she came in possession of These documents that has a roof It's all in the book by the way, she it's all in the book name in possession. Yeah Listen how she came in possession of it go where the facts lead and i would argue in this book that what you see is real boots on the ground reporting in a way that she does boots on the gun on-the-ground reporting that's how good she is haven't seen another ways for example in the book i get this al qaeda tape from the group in yemen and i think people would be surprised to learn that in the process of getting that take first of all
43:47 the operative wanted $30,000 for that tape. We don't pay at Fox for tapes but I'm just telling you that number because it gives you an idea of one of the ways they try and raise money." Well let me get this straight so Al-Qaeda makes tapes and then tries to finance their terrorist actions by selling that to Fox Okay, I just want to make sure... What a business model. Just wanted to make sure that I heard it properly. Take that one over to Kleiner Perkins. Number two when I ultimately got this message from Anwar Al-Awlaki it was buried in a file sharing website that was filled with pornography. Oh! Bet you liked that Pixie?
44:29 so they use these sites to transmit their messages because they're under on the false belief that law enforcement can't go to these sites are government computers uh... can't get any side um... and anything i think that this tape is that you like those sites yeah that's why we don't want okay now here does the funniest thing and i'll shut up about her he's got a huge she's gonna be all over the place you watch him in every single news channel but not yet what do you guys you know i'm If she goes overboard like this with way too many memes and she's a little too slick, I'm not sure that that's true. You know John it said its hubris is its just brazen outlandish list outlandishness We've got this movie coming out we've got Whoever is paying Schmidl
45:22 It's it's theater. It's just the you know, I understand but it's just like it's a little it's No one in the media is doing what we do no one is calling anyone on this and this This woman from C-SPAN is just sitting there going like oh yeah. Oh, yeah porn Yeah We had it analyzed by a forensic audio analyst and what he said to us is that something called reverb. Something called reverb? Have you heard of this amazing thing, John, that this analyst discovered on the tape? Something called reverb? What?! Yeah! Something called reverb
45:59 Yeah, the analyst found that there was something called reverb. Reverb And what does that mean? They were running through a 1970s Quadraphonic sound system I mean what were they talking about well it's fakery this is how Al Qaeda doesn't verb makes it fake Oh yeah listen in analyzed and then our lesson to a Mexican good radio station or truckers on CB for that matter stick audio analyst and what he said to us is is that something called reverb had been added to the tape. So when you listen to the tape, it sounded like a Locky was in this giant mosque speaking to 10 thousand people and it had this sense of grandeur to it but in fact he was probably in a closet with his computer taping this thing so
46:43 In a closet with reverb. Why does he have to go to a closet? Because she's psyops this is how you do it you build up your imagery oh my goodness anyway be on the lookout for this woman She's very funny, and she's and she's pleasant to look at in a very disturbing kind of way because you're looking like mmm You feel uneasy You know they used to have a woman on CNN who took over, they kicked Lou years and years ago in the 90's Bobby Batista No Willow Bay Oh yeah I remember her. Yeah sure Willow Bay What happened to her?
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Willow Bay, Media Career and Disney Connection
The hosts discuss the career of former CNN anchor Willow Bay, noting her marriage to Disney CEO Robert Iger. They compare her media presence to Catherine Herridge and discuss her current role as a senior editor at the Huffington Post.
45:59 Yeah, the analyst found that there was something called reverb. Reverb And what does that mean? They were running through a 1970s Quadraphonic sound system I mean what were they talking about well it's fakery this is how Al Qaeda doesn't verb makes it fake Oh yeah listen in analyzed and then our lesson to a Mexican good radio station or truckers on CB for that matter stick audio analyst and what he said to us is is that something called reverb had been added to the tape. So when you listen to the tape, it sounded like a Locky was in this giant mosque speaking to 10 thousand people and it had this sense of grandeur to it but in fact he was probably in a closet with his computer taping this thing so
46:43 In a closet with reverb. Why does he have to go to a closet? Because she's psyops this is how you do it you build up your imagery oh my goodness anyway be on the lookout for this woman She's very funny, and she's and she's pleasant to look at in a very disturbing kind of way because you're looking like mmm You feel uneasy You know they used to have a woman on CNN who took over, they kicked Lou years and years ago in the 90's Bobby Batista No Willow Bay Oh yeah I remember her. Yeah sure Willow Bay What happened to her?
47:23 Well, she was like shacked up with one of the executives supposedly I mean this is what it's alleged and that's why she got this million-dollar job And they kicked blue Dobbs off the air put her in charge and then the ratings just tanks tanked And then they took her off and she never got work again or she doesn't care. She's loaded I don't know but she was I know some guys who met her and they thought did she was a That same kind of creepy way that this other woman is but she just disappeared. I don't know how to look her up Very blonde version of the same girl, right? So anyway, it's a pixie Look to say weird eyes now Yeah The eyes are the one would really freak me out you just look at those eyes and she's telling others like yes I am now I need to go to the closet with some reverb with some porn make a tape
48:12 What is she saying? Al-Qaeda is in the... Hold on, here's why Willow Bay you never heard of her again. I hate to change it over She was married to Robert Eiger Oh! The Disney guy Or she still is. She's married him now. I guess she's American correspondent editor author former model and wife of Walt Disney CEO Eiger Currently a senior editor at HuffPost So she's still continuing her little shenanigans Editor at HuffPost so it's the exact same age as this other woman basically within a year. Mm-hmm Well, that's what you do That's the payoff you get when you were when your NK ultra Special presidential model, you know you go work for the guy Disney then you and you pleasure him after your after your service and then you get to you know on the back burner and you work for huffpo and
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Knighting Ceremony, Patrick Coble Donation
Adam Curry recounts the knighting of Patrick Coble at a bar in Nashville during the Hot Pockets 2008 tour. Coble, a Marine veteran and IT professional, donated $1,000 and provided decals for the tour vehicle. He reportedly discovered the podcast while working at a three-letter government agency.
49:04 uh... anyway i just thought that was incredibly amusing and it brought a smile to my face this morning but you know if they continue on this uh... distract of trying to psychologically control people into believing this whole al-qaeda taliban lone wolf crap will have material for years to come so yeah we get maturity is the kind of anywhere between we do need to thank some producers yes let's thanksome uh... today's show is brought to you by action and i start off with the with one of our producers from nashville yeah we have a problem was that who justin challenges
49:45 Decided to become a knight and he came right up to you. This is here night me even better than that so this is Patrick Coble and He came I was with Scoble, that's right But it's a totally different guy believe me this guy rides a Ducati 1100 CC 1180 cc or something like his amazing bike yeah get you down the street go yeah, and And he actually brought the decals that are now proudly displayed on the side of the Duchess if you've not seen it I tweeted a picture on the tweeters and it's really nice to see with all the different URLs on it yeah the URL is chemtrails.me
50:24 uh... sean hannity dot com big no agenda tour dot com no agenda tour nor did the show dot com fantastic and so we knighted among the spot at uh... the big bang bar which will talk about a moment in nine nashville with a drumstick as he knelt before me and he became a night and i would actually just like to get grease all over what kind of a drive that's the way it right i'd like to read this note from adam and john First off, thanks for the best podcast ever your podcast has changed my outlook on everything I was already a self radicalizing right-wing libertarian But now because of you. I'm a right wing lone wolf terrorist This is not a good letter Robert I did two years in Iraq and the Marines and saw the wackness of the war firsthand in the government waste of every contract there
51:16 I was saving for the 333 club but when i heard about the Hot Pockets Tour 2008, I knew this would be my chance to become a knight. Listen to this John...I'm an IT nerd and I first heard your podcast at a three-letter government agency Hope this donation helps you in your time of need with the tour and the crappy economy due to the government filled to The ceiling with shills now I'm not gonna tell you which three-letter agency it was because I need to protect him a little bit because he asked me Not to tell you but they had never heard of the show. He uh, I know This is one of the few people I believe who didn't come to the show through you But they were actually playing no agenda at a three letter agency
51:59 the cubicles on speakers and laughing and hooting and hollering, and he's like what is this? This is great! What are these crazy guys?! So this makes me feel so warm all over that. This is what's happening as we've got our people deep inside the system I love it And they're all IT guys so they one push of a button...I'm telling you be very afraid of us I'm gonna get back in the closet now with my reverb Anyway, so we'll be knighting Patrick later on and was great to To do that on site. That was a lot of fun So yeah, and we have a second night coming up today from Chesapeake Virginia another Virginia another Virginia guy Craig Porter
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Producer Donations, Karma Requests
Craig Porter of Chesapeake, Virginia, is recognized for his donation to complete his knighthood and requests karma for his former shipmates on the USS Philadelphia. Joseph Frost of Wooddale, Illinois, joins the 328 club and requests karma for himself and a co-worker to find better employment.
52:54 In the morning, Adam and John. Just wanted to help out The Hot Pockets 2008 Tour complete my knighthood and get my podcast license I figured if i buy one of those... Let me just skip that part. I'll contribute to the only bastion of real news in the world Yeah! Uh..I'd like to send some karma to my old buddies from the USS Philadelphia SSN 690 Which was decommissioned recently? Decommissioned recently. In Port Smith Virginia Here we go let's give them some karma You've got karma. is a great guy i think so dresses she's massachusetts another place near the epicenter and john adama thanks for providing us with that triple-a information in a double a plus world good line by guessing p uh...
54:07 Like S&P made the calc-made a calculation error. My last donation completed my double knighthood, uh since it is my birthday tomorrow on 8-8 I figured what better gift to receive than the gift of the no agenda? Keep up the good fight Sir William. Thank you. Joseph Frost in Wooddale Illinois in your neck of the woods member of 328 club $320 hoping to see Adam at the Palantine meetup Can I buy you and Mickey a beer? How about buying me tanky gas may I have to X karma for myself in the co-worker in hopes of getting out of our American dream jobs into better prospects for ourselves Yeah, so we're the way. We're gonna do karma is I hit the Karma and John you hit the bell to double it up You've got karma Does that work mm-hmm
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Content Theft, No Agenda PR Strategy
A producer named James reports that his website content was stolen by a Chinese entity and hosted on Google Blogspot. In retaliation, he replaced his server's images with No Agenda show art, effectively turning the stolen sites into advertisements for the podcast. New domain redirects like alqaedaipo.com are also mentioned.
55:02 and then the associate executive producer Brian Barrow, Wooten Bassett Wiltshire UK. Hi John and Adam here's some money for fuel keep up the excellent work lovely lovely lovely Then a couple of PR mentions by the way, of course we want to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for contributing to the show org Slash n gotta reprogram that in your brain obviously Here we go. We've got this actually quite interesting This is from James who runs of a jazzling calm Remember the vajazzling yeah, that never really took off. Yeah I'm writing to request for some karma also to announce my latest PR effort for no agenda So here's what's going on a site that I spent over two years developing which I would rather not mention and I think it's one of these sites that has dubious content that people like to look at if you're if you're hiding jihadist documents
56:01 Had its content stolen and posted on some other blogspot, Google owned blog spot websites. The content thief has been traced to somewhere in China And has posted at least 20 or more similar sites all with my content. This has caused my Google rankings to tank as a result, My income is dropped about 90%. I spent about two months filling out crappy forms and trying to get Google to shut these sites down but Google will not help and it's impossible to get ahold of a real human being so we'd like some karma for that. I'd like to do that first of all then give you the PR. You've got Karma
56:37 So what I've done, since this idiot in China is pulling the images directly from my server. I've decided to change the image to no agenda show art And he sends them links to all of these stolen websites. Yes, hilarious! And it's like... It's all Noah Jena's great good idea by the way really good idea love that so thank you James hope the karma helps another a couple domain names that are forwarding to no agenda show calm Al Qaeda IPO comm yes it couldn't get any more okurant So al-qaedaipo.com now pointing to noagendashow.com Then we have the No Agenda Donation guy who's always been there to help us out Please go to noagendadonation.com He has buttons, clear buttons, no text All money is directed to our PayPal links And this is a great banner you can get it from there and stick on one of your Chinese stolen websites as well Appreciate that I'm still getting over the head cold And then finally This is beautiful
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Urban Dictionary, Adios Mofo Entry
The phrase "Adios Mofo" has been added to the Urban Dictionary, credited to Texas Governor Rick Perry and popularized by the No Agenda podcast. The hosts also note that the term "Embiggen" from Dvorak's blog is featured on the site.
57:37 And I don't know how, it's one thing to be in Wikipedia. It's another thing to be in the Urban Dictionary and of course we're already in the Urban Dictionary although not mentioned by name with In The Morning there's another new entry! The entry is for Adios Mofo! In the urban dictionary a popular sign off on closing for television interviews or podcasts The phrase originally became an internet sensation after Texas Governor Rick Perry used the phrase as a sign-off closing goodbye to a television reporter. During the hype for Perry's speculation of running for US President in 2012, it was used by a popular podcast No Agenda with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. The phrase generally means goodbye mother ffff
58:24 This phrase is the exact opposite of in the morning. Adios, mofo! I think that's awesome to be in the urban dictionary and that's good we need more of our memes in there yeah I mean is it that easy to submit? Is no one watching what's going on over there. We got one for the Dvorak Uncensored blog called Embiggen Oh, Embiggen is how you make the picture bigger right yeah Yeah that's cool I like that they got in all right so we thank our producers of course we have more Hot Pockets producers to thank in a little bit and also thanks to Patrick
59:00 coble to william are canada executive producers joseph frost a three two eight and executive producer brian barrow uh... who is a uh... associates executive producer again we highly appreciate all of your support for the program or slash and and everyone else out there just wants to help as you're getting by if you want them with our formula are formally this people in the mouth So Johnny boy, I'm still in the RV. Yeah
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Hot Pockets Tour, Nashville Meetup Recap
Adam Curry describes the Nashville meetup at The Big Bang Bar, featuring a performance by Sir Jeff Smith. Attendees from Memphis and Paducah participated, with some wearing elaborate tinfoil hats. Smith debuted a new song titled "Living the American Dream" during the event.
59:50 And we're still on the road with this Hot Pockets 2008 tour. I've said it before and i'll say again, I don't think that this is the best publicity we've ever had for the show you should just stay on the road! You do not like in LA anyway. If donations do not move up its going to be what all about all I can afford is an RV Well thats good Yeah thats a start Have you ever seen that one? Have you ever seen the Lucy show, the Ricky Ricardo, Lucy O'Ball The long long trailer. Have you ever seen that I think I put it in the show notes It's an episode about an hour and a half And they buy a mobile home and its hilarious because it is Adam & Mickey In The Mobile Home! IT IS US! In fact im even going... HAHAHAHA THATS RIDICULOUS
1:00:41 It's a good episode. I vaguely remember that it's very very funny episode you know that everything that happens in that show has pretty much we park on the hill and stuff is like bumping my head everything is in it, its really good so anyway last time we spoke John I was in the thousand degree heat of Nashville Tennessee And after the show we had our Nashville meetup and this was in The Big Bang Bar where Jeff Smith performs every single, I think almost every single night. Which is great! We had a fantastic time people came in from Memphis. And you know Lone Squirrel who does these fantastic remixes of every No Agenda episode He came in from Paducah, Paducah Kentucky
1:01:29 You know what he so he brought me a bag with Paducah on it, and you know it was in the bag Blanket key Paduka Paduka in the bag. He had blankets and water And I have to say, that meetup was the most original meetup we've done to date. Dave Selden and his lovely wife Deb had made like 20 tinfoil hats but really good ones with little antennas on it and shit Oops sorry didn't mean to say that And so we were all wearing our tinfoil hats. They had brownies, Rice Krispie treats all with little Hot Pockets No Agenda trivia questions on little baggies and it was just absolutely outstanding! I think we had probably 28-29 people there Jeff Smith the Jeff Smith Sir Jeff created a brand new song which i think On the pre show you heard just the tail end of it Living The American Dream
1:02:31 Did you hear any of that or not? Yeah, yeah. No it's great It's a beautiful song I heard him do it on YouTube too. You should have the link to it Now I have it linked in my blog post and also on the HotPockets2008.com website Really really good and uh...it was just a beautiful evening We had tons of fun talking with him And I think our one black listener showed up and of course I promptly forgot his name So it was nice and he's like, yeah man you guys are the best. You're right on it I'm representing my community Yeah And it was just, it was awesome. It was a really really good meetup and as I said extremely creative. Vicki Poole was there who has been a supporter of $5 for years. It was just fantastic and we'll have a couple of Hot Pocket producers to thank later on. Then the next day Miss Mickey had decided that in order to stay on schedule we were to drive nine hours to Illinois
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Illinois Road Trip, GM Corn and Factory Farming
The tour moves from Tennessee through Kentucky to Illinois, where Adam Curry observes vast fields of genetically modified corn and windowless chicken coops. He compares the signage for agricultural products to winery advertisements. The segment concludes with their arrival at the home of producers Chuck and Dana in Inverness.
1:03:27 Nine hours of driving. This was quite a haul I can Tell you not an easy trip particularly because No offense to Kentucky, but the minute you get out of Tennessee and you hit Kentucky the road changes right there It's like this horrible gray You know yellow looking slabs of concrete that every five seconds is good And then we hit Illinois, which is a pretty big state. I found you to what you're saying is that Kentucky roads are crap Yeah, Kentucky roads crap it literally going to kill like California road. You say yeah? Oh yeah no California roads Alabama Roads are unbelievably nice and yeah We've had some nice out. We were only only went through Alabama briefly on a previous leg
1:04:17 And then we hit Illinois and in Illinois you go through, have you seen Food Inc? Have you seen that documentary? Yeah. It must've been filmed there because all it is it's all GM corn and its just miles and miles of it every 200 feet there's a sign like Aggrego Miracle Corn Beck Super Stuff It's like unbelievable. They put signage up as though it was a winery? Yeah, exactly! You can select which genetically modified corn you want and then that'll be separated by one of those chicken coops Those really long low buildings that have no windows where the chickens are just shot up with crap And it was depressing Mickey took some pictures I think she might've put them on Facebook at mickeysees.com
1:05:03 But yeah, every single couple hundred yards is like another sign. Like here's an agro-gro miracle stuff! Great tasting! If you Google some of that it's like wow okay... yeah just like a winery and then we got in around 830 super producers I have to say Chuck and Dana the lovely two boys Charlie and Carson that was the funniest thing so they were out on the street with their car with the headlights flashing and he had 2 flashlights like you know, like we're in 747 bringing in for landing. For the terminal? Yeah, for the 747. The terminal exactly! So we rolled in here
1:05:47 Parked in the driveway hooked up and it's been so fancy. They had a nice great guest room for us our own bathroom And they've been such wonderful hosts You know, they have the the harp of karma here their boys are just fantastic this you know Like two brothers that get along no really really sweet boys and and without a leash I might add is really good And last night they broke out the Techniques turntables and we had a dance party in something I hadn't done in 20 years. I was remixing songs, vinyl... Chuck's got all the vinyl here. Tonight we have our meetup here in Inverness Illinois
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Cleveland and Boston, Tour Schedule Update
The Hot Pockets tour schedule includes upcoming stops in Cleveland, Boston, New York, and Washington D.C. Curry reflects on the emotional impact of meeting "awake" producers across the country. Dvorak considers attending the tour's wrap party.
1:06:26 And we're expecting another good crowd to stop by. Now unfortunately, we couldn't go to Wisconsin just didn't work out anymore in the travel schedule I believe there are a couple of people driving from Wisconsin and were only 30 miles from Chicago so... Yeah actually drive from Wisconsin is not unusual That's not that bad So some folks are coming from Wisconsin others from Illinois and of course Chicago the epicenter of evil and that's what said taken place here and then tomorrow we drive to cleveland where clinton leaving cleveland on rocks yet cleveland rocks a home of the rock-and-roll hall of fame and will actually be setting up camp there for couple of days i have two uh... a corrupt institution by the way i am not on board with the fact that why isn't uh... cat scratch fever ted nugent in the rock n roll holla fellas totally corrupted used to be cool
1:07:26 Before there was a building, when they had the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame dinners at the Waldorf. That was always cool but then it got... like everything gets commercialized and crap no good But ABBA's in! Yeah, ABBA yeah that's some rock-and-roll for you Does your mother know? So we're still rolling it and then after that I think we're going to, after Cleveland we go to Boston then we go to New York and ummm... Then we are back in the DC area. Are you coming out John? Everybody wants know if your gonna make the rap party. I'm still researching it. I am trying to make it. Shall I just tell you one thing
1:08:05 It's and I know whenever I get emotional on the show you don't want to hear about it But if you actually yeah, if you actually reason Yeah If you actually met some of the producers who are out here and see what this show is achieving You would cry I've cried many times in my sleep, but also privately. Just at the beauty of all these people who are awake and see what's happening and actually without them even really realizing probably are all in positions to change things dramatically in this world with one command line. One execution on the command line
1:08:45 So it's just it's really nice John and I miss you dearly Particularly on these meetups, man. I would see me anyway That's what I mean. I'd never want you near the RV or anywhere near me in general But on these meet ups its it feels bad It doesn't feel right to be the only one You know that that's witnessing how cool this is and what we're doing And how where are making a difference one lone wolf at a time? It's it's very nice to see and I and you would you would really? You know that we know that you have a really big heart secretly, and then the until they knock on the door Yeah well then there's that just a quick throwback To our last back. He keeps saying throwback. You should be saying call back. I want throwback okay call back sorry
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FAA Reauthorization, Rural Airport Subsidies
Congress passed a temporary extension of the FAA reauthorization bill, delaying further debate until September 17. The bill includes a provision to cut subsidies to 13 rural airports, though Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has the authority to issue waivers to keep them operational.
1:09:39 And so much for the emotional heartwarming part of the show, we're back to regular business as usual. Callback to the previous program... The show is not about heartwarming! Callback to the previous program Congress did indeed authorize a version of the FAA reauthorization bill I guess they figured that Ray LaHood hadn't done his job that the reporters were on to it and here's what happened. So they basically kicked this can down the road until September 17th and then we'll see... Basically all television shows are on hiatus, and someone said look why are we doing this now? No one is watching TV no one cares they're all on vacations! The wrong time to roll out these episodes let's do it in September when the fall season starts
1:10:26 so the senate agreed to a house passed version of a temporary extension of the f a author reauthorization bill which included here it is a writer provision that would cut government subsidies to thirteen rural airports however ray la hood can issue waivers to those airports allowing the subsidies to continue so they did exactly what the reporters were hounding lawhood about is uh... the president said okay You know, get your waivers so we can put these people back to work and we'll fight about the union thing another time. September! So it will be a mid-season replacement Temporarily on hold this crisis reality show Your Government in Crisis Part 2 Maybe we had something to do with it maybe it was like Oh man, Curry and Dvorak are talking about us again Let's have a meeting What are you going to do? You wish Yeah I do
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California Law, Annoying a Minor Conviction
In Las Gatos, California, Sarah Cole was found not guilty of felony unlawful sex with a minor but was convicted of a misdemeanor for "annoying or molesting a minor." This conviction requires her to register as a sex offender for life, leading the hosts to criticize the broad application of sex offender laws.
1:12:28 I like it. So did you know that, you know the way one of my pet peeves is the fact that they're throwing people who pee in the park in what they're saying with child rapists? Yeah sex offenders yeah Well did you know now that annoying a minor in California... Yeah Is a sex offense What?! Just play this clip. Wait a minute, wait a minute! I annoy my daughter all the time Well you're gonna be on the list boy The well publicized trial in the South Bay is now over The Las Gadas mother accused of having sex with a 16 year old boy has been found not guilty But she still could go to jail A jury found Sarah Cole not guilty Of two felony counts of unlawful sex With one her son's good friends
1:13:12 but cole was convicted of a misdemeanor for annoying or molesting a minor that means you'll have to register as a sex offender for life and could serve time so let me get this straight if you yell at some kid hey get off my lawn the kid can yell back oh yeah old man stop annoying me! You'll have to register Just a little tidbit from the local news and by the way I think it's kind of cool if your mom is so hot that your friends are having sex with her. It's a mom with benefits dot-com Exactly Wow, yeah now there you go that's get Mo for you. Yeah, totally get Mo get Mo nation unbelievable. It's pretty crazy
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Stochastic Terrorism, Thom Hartmann Commentary
Progressive host Thom Hartmann uses the term "stochastic terrorist" to describe Frank Gaffney's rhetoric regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and Anders Breivik. The hosts define stochastic as referring to non-deterministic systems and dismiss the term as intellectual-sounding "bullcrap."
1:14:02 So, I have a... there's a new... this is gonna go nowhere. But i'm listening to Thom Hartmann and he comes up with.. he's got some guys or some guy that was apparently in some progressive movement criticizing the Muslims which is against the rules and so Hartman goes after him And then he makes a comment at the very end, he has new wordage. Can you tell me if you have any idea what this means? Besides claiming that pretty much everything under the sun from President Obama to David Petraeus to even CPAC has been subverted by the Muslim Brotherhood Gaffney now thinks that Breivik himself was an agent of the Muslim Brotherhood Speaking of ThinkProgress Gaffney had this observation about Breiviks manifesto
1:14:47 It cries out for a thorough investigation as to whether it was in fact an authentic piece of his own creation, whether it was a false flag operation. Whether it actually was meant to do anything other than contribute to Sharia's efforts to suppress criticism and awareness of its agenda Right. At a time when our nation should be learning from the violent consequences of Muslim fear-mongering, Gaffney spews more Muslim fear mongering It's time to call Gaffney out for what he really is and that's a stochastic terrorist which is very very ugly Stochastic? Yeah! A stochastic terrorist
1:15:40 What does that mean? Well, I'll read you the definition from the wiki. Stochastic refers to systems whose behavior is intrinsically non-deterministic. A lone wolf, it's kind of like a lone wolf thing isn't it? Well but nondeterminism means he makes things up as he goes along Or just trying to be a terrorist because he can I'm not sure it doesn't make the fact of the matter is this new term, stochastic terrorist is some bull crap that this idiot you know on Russia Today would come up with that means nothing to anybody but sounds kind of intellectual. Hmm. Thoroughly thorough. I was just shaking my head over that one. The guy's show was almost unwatchable now. Speaking of the Breivik
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Ruger LC9, Gun of the Year Award
Ruger received the "Gun of the Year" award for the LC9 pocket pistol shortly after the model was reportedly used in the Oslo shootings by Anders Breivik. CEO Mike Pfeiffer credited the company's "Voice of the Customer" program for the design's success.
1:16:28 uh... oslo shooting talk about your timing so you have to how can we monopolize on this how come let's have a mealy eyes catalyze capitalize the gun he used was a ruger lc nine uh... with guns out with gun sight it was the gun site scout rifle from ruger and once again just a couple days after This happened, and I'm reading from the press release. The industry has once again recognized Ruger for the high quality innovative product designs that we have produced in direct response to our Voice of the Customer program said President & CEO Mike Pfeiffer as they received Gun Of The Year Award for the Ruger that shot these kids!
1:17:21 So is a Ruger LC9, it's a pocket pistol. Yeah but I guess it had the... He had a pistol he had a rifle But I think this has the snap-on bits It's really small gun Handgun of the year For record setting seven times total Demonstrating our transition to leading American handgun manufacturer Good job! How about lesson in timing? That was pretty crazy. I thought Ruger was a German gun? I thought so too, but apparently it's an American gun. There were some riots in East London yesterday. I don't know if you caught that. No they don't play any of that stuff. I was watching the BBC stuff and they're just basically talking about Libya Oh really well there was...and in fact this happened in Tottenham
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London Riots, Tottenham Unrest
Riots broke out in Tottenham, London, following the police shooting of a 29-year-old man. The unrest involved arson and Molotov cocktails, which the hosts predict will eventually be blamed on economic austerity measures. They also discuss the media's negative portrayal of the American Tea Party movement.
1:18:16 home of the Tottenham Spurs and I think it was a, um... Was he Indian or Pakistani? Or you know, a brown person. A 29 year old kid basically got killed by police officers on Thursday and uh... I guess that's kind of new to me this all this information But the police had not anticipated any extreme violence and they were like lighting cars on fire Molotov cocktails, and the media is literally just like oh you know it's It's not that is not that big a deal. People are little upset but the slaves are revolting big time And of course this will all be blamed on austerity measures eventually in this uh... But no coverage on the tea party yeah The Tea Party
1:19:10 That's pretty funny. I watch people i respect writing about the Tea Party and like you know they're evil, they're horrible, they're soulless... It's amazing to me! And it was like and they're all from Texas! The tea party is hardly anybody from Texas A. Uh I think there's 11 from Texas Whatever the case is there are some tea partiers everywhere but did they just be associated with a smaller government movement? They're all these attributions are given to him racist and they're this and oh yeah, they hate Obama because he's black. Yeah, they hate Obama cuz he's black You know it's funny but entire months go by I don't think about that Seriously like what? Are you kidding me
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No Excuses University, School Consultant Programs
No Excuses University is a program that sends consultants into elementary schools to promote college attendance to third graders. The program uses PowerPoint presentations to associate college with luxury cars and manual labor with poverty. Critics describe the chanting and "code of conduct" as cult-like and manipulative.
1:20:00 Well, they're succeeding the left-right paradigm. That's one thing that I think is real it's really working There's something else This is something that the producers here in Inverness told me about and have been trying to look this up Have you heard of no excuses University? Nope So no excuses university and if you go look at their website it's unclear where their funding is coming from but they are handing out $250,000 grants to schools etc. How it works is a school and we're talking third graders
1:20:39 Third graders and the whole idea is a guy comes in and he talks to the human resources About going to college no excuses. You should be going to college, but the way it's done is and of course this material I don't have although I'm waiting on a videotape which I can't wait to post because someone filmed one of these in secret is The guy then shows a PowerPoint presentation two third graders how old was a third grader John? I don't know. Like nine? Eight? Nine maybe. Something like that. Eight or nine. Yeah, advertising and on it says if you go to college here's the car you can have! If you don't go to college and they show a beat-up Toyota Supra this is the car you'll have! And they get these kids into this whole chanting thing... Chanting?! Let me play an example from their own website.
1:21:37 this is literally and they all have the same shirts on and they're all doing these chants about the university they want to go to. This is what, that being taught by this no excuses university Texas Aggies beat the rest. Gig'em, Aggies! Rah-rah Carolina, rah-rah Carolina, rah-rah Carolina Go UMP We want to learn and do our best each day
1:22:28 and nice little love band music in the background on this clip they put on their own website so i'm like okay i gotta look into this organization and of course there's zero information about where the from but this really is uh... from what i understand all those comes from chicago It does come from this area. It's all around the country Yeah, it looks like a Chicago based operation is what I'm digging as you speak so they have this character training And I'm sorry first we have the no excuses code of conduct This is what these kids are taught
1:23:12 by outside consultants coming into the schools which the administration's willfully let in. There are no excuses and no matter what we'll get the kids where they need to go The No Excuses program also has a code of conduct students are rewarded for being safe responsible and respectful so it's all good fun when it comes to our friendly in-state rivalry IU vs Butler who is better? I am. Butler. I am. Butler. I am. Teachers say it doesn't matter who they're rooting for as long as it gets them one step closer to a diploma Laura Kirtley Alright, now here's the one that kind of frightened me This is the character training They get character training and then of course It's not just the little human resources who at this point are still worth about nine million dollars over their lifetime It's what the teachers are being taught as to how to
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Character Education, Rethinking Letters in Schools
Schools are implementing "character education" based on the book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Students are taught concepts like "synergy" and "win-win" and are required to write "rethinking letters" instead of serving traditional detention for "character violations."
1:24:09 manipulate these human resources to be good little slaves. Check this out. Happens to be the word of the month, this month. It's like somebody drops something and you can pick it up for them. It is all part of character education which teachers say improves learning Oh my gosh I think it makes such a difference in children and their security and comfort level and I think gives them confidence they become better leaders and oh, it's...and then their academics improve. The coordinator says character is embedded in everything students do from their character garden to their commitment to go to a university based in part on a book outlining seven habits of highly effective people. Oh yeah they got books they hand out books well that's like yes what does the character garden by the way?
1:24:57 Really? Character garden, what are you, here's some carrots a good character. I guess you'd look for a carrot that is shaped like the human body. Listen to what's coming. Be proactive To be responsible and listen to people Begin with the end in mind You have to plan ahead and set goals Put first things first I always do my homework first then play Think win-win It puts calm things to other people's emotional bank accounts. To listen to them. It means to exercise and it means to stay healthy
1:25:40 So then he won't be lazy and like you can't do work. This is great! It's cute, it gets better. Finally... Synergize means to work together with other people even though they're not the same person. It's that synergy that students teachers and parents feel gave them a win-win We pull together. Now listen, listen to this... Listen, listen... We're like a family okay? That's the kind act too what else could be kind people here care What else Nathaniel another example of how character is instilled instead of detention Students have a character violation for which they write a rethinking letter Violation child write your rethinking letter Oh character violation mrs.. Mrs.. Applebee
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Brainwashing Techniques, Turnaround Schools
The "turnaround schools" movement and Damon Lopez's methods are compared to 1970s sensitivity training like EST and certain Scientology practices. The hosts discuss the potential for these programs to "dumb down" American children through psychological manipulation in the classroom.
1:26:33 He committed a character violation on me. Ah! Rethinking letters! This is not, this cannot be good. Okay so this guy started a turnaround schools named Damon Lopez Yeah that's the guy And he's also apparently involved in some project more and some other things and everything works around the six exceptional system So which is basically very cult like You think? So I'm assuming there's some sort of training and people who are old enough to know this You know, there's a whole slew of these things starting with Estes of course but Scientology actually kind of went in this direction. But they went off into religious direction and didn't stay with these things like Estes used to have which is the Earhart sensitivity training based on you know these kinds long meetings and rules and crazy ideas that
1:27:37 They're propagated throughout the, mostly in the 70s and 80s. But they're still very effective methods of brainwashing people. Thank you that's the word I was looking for yeah it's not good and it's all coming from Chicago You know there is a woman who wrote The Dumbing Down Of America? We've got to revisit that actually Super Producer Chuck has her book thing is huge You know there's like a PDF floating around that she put out? Yeah. And you read that and you're like, oh it's pretty cool but the book that she wrote is... John I mean we should read this book it's like Atlas Shrugged that's how big it is but if she has every single detail of how this is being done and you know this because weren't you like a book distributor or who was it tell that story again about someone who said they're creating these textbooks to make our kids stupid on purpose
1:28:30 I never said that. Yes you did! Oh, well i may have said it but no...I've never been a...no You're thinking of somebody else No you once told me that you would talk to a guy and the guy said yeah these textbooks are all meant to purposely dumb down the kids Well whatever was whatever I said is true since taken aside given two zaps a couple electrical jolts and I've long since forgotten the exact story Well, anyway. You caught me off guard! Sorry... But yeah well duh okay we have to follow this there's something fishy about it Yeah I know it's disturbing very very disturbing They like to get into the schools these organizations so they can somehow challenge the public But you look at the teachers and they're all into it and like yes great let's have the kids chant and write character letters and whatever Hey you test drove a couple of those battery cars didn't ya?
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Chevy Volt Sales, Rahm Emanuel Birthday Party
General Motors reported selling only 125 Chevy Volts in July, despite heavy promotion of the vehicle as a success for the auto industry bailout. Meanwhile, Rahm Emanuel hosted a high-priced birthday fundraiser for President Obama in Chicago. Monsanto also announced plans to sell GE sweet corn for human consumption.
1:29:32 You know how many- The report will be coming out shortly for 99 cents. Well, add this to your report The July sales numbers are out for the Chevy Volt. How many do you think General Motors sold of this great car that is turning around this company? Well, they actually don't make that many of them so these numbers are elusive but it's about 4,000 something like that 125 Oh I thought it was 3500 No no no They produced in total 5,000 but they sold a hundred and twenty five in July in March 281. That thing's a total dog! No one is buying this! It's funny and I saw Rahm Emanuel introducing the president at his birthday party in Chicago, the $38,500 birthday party to see what was it? The Go To Go band? Remember those guys who were on the treadmills they had that cool video yeah that was the entertainment
1:30:38 3838 grand I see these douchebags on the on treadmills really and so Emmanuel's they're saying this president did all the hard stuff And he actually you know we turned around the car industry, and they paid back all their loans Yeah by taking out new loans with lower interest rates All they do is kick the can down that way was it again take the candle down to block what else? I keep saying which is the meme kick the can kick the can kick the can uh And meanwhile we've got... Monsanto! Now announcing they'll be selling genetically modified sweet corn for human consumption later this year. Mmm, yum. Yum I used to make corn on the cob but i'm not such a big fan of it anymore if you don't mind How did you make? You mean you cooked corn on the cob? Yeah, get so technical in my butt Oh by the way little food foodie alert
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Firefly Grill, Effingham Illinois Dining
During their travels, the tour stopped in Effingham, Illinois, known as the "crossroads of opportunity." Based on a producer's tip, they visited the Firefly Grill, a farm-to-table restaurant featuring grass-fed beef and local produce, which they recommend as a hidden gem in a major truck stop area.
1:31:40 When we drove from Nashville to Inverness in a place called Effingham, which is... Effingham. Effingham yes. Effingham is at the crossroads between Interstate 24 and Interstate 57 There's actually a big cross, a huge cross which is apparently some kind of monument you can find it at CrossUSA.org And Effingham is known as the crossroads of opportunity And it's basically a huge truck stop. There is nothing but, you know, pilot, truck stop, BP, Exxon and then if you drive...and this was a tip from one of our producers If you drive off the beaten path about five minutes You get to a place called the Firefly Grill which is an outstanding restaurant
1:32:29 With corn grass-fed beef. They've got just killer I mean the food was outrageous It's a gem if you ever find yourself at the crossroads of opportunity go to the Firefly Grill We had such a lovely lunch there it was really that that's the beauty of driving with with some version of internet connectivity And people are tweeting you all kinds of things to look at and stop off at. It's really, it was cool! It was really nice. They have their own website ffgrill dot com Yep that's right So should we thank some producers? Or not quite time just about time I think maybe i can uh... Just bring up-to-date on what Lucifer is doing As lucifer had a press conference for those of you who are new to the program Lucifer is our pet name for Hillary Clinton
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Syria Sanctions, Hillary Clinton and John Baird
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird discussed potential "strong actions" against the Syrian regime. Baird expressed regret that there is no UN resolution similar to 1973 (used in Libya) to authorize military intervention in Syria, citing a lack of international support.
1:33:24 She did one of those press conferences and she comes out laughing. And this time is with the Minister of Foreign Affairs Baird from Canada, and they both had some choice words... I probably have to boost this audio hold on a second let me just add a little boost They both had some very choice words to say about our favorite country, which we're going to get and get you next Which is Syria? Well first as to the follow-up on Syria. I think I've said all I can say that We are working around the clock to try to Gather up as much international support for strong actions against
1:34:05 uh... the syrian regime as possible. Hmm, strong actions as possible? What could that mean John? What do you think? Should we go in there and kick some ass? Yeah! Kick some ass! I come from the school that actions speak louder than words. Oh hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho and here's a beard the united nations security council passed uh... resolution nineteen seventy three which gave us significant amount of leeway for allies to come together and to tackle the challenge that uh... we saw on-the-ground where they're very actively protecting civilian lives uh... the situation in syria at the actions of the asad regime are obviously abhorrent ABHORRENT! the way they've acted
1:34:58 in recent weeks and months, even in the last 48 hours in Hama is absolutely disgraceful. uh... regrettably we don't have the same amount of international support at the u n for this so i think in the absence about what we've got to continue is to work with like-minded allies there's not a and there's no country i think you can single handedly tackle this challenge that would go to work aggressively without resistance recently he had a lot of his life with this guy he's dead these brain dead but easy he's getting talking points out which is a regrettably we don't have a resolution like nineteen seventy three which we had in Libya to go in and shoot hellfire at brown people. Regrettably, oh so regrettable! I wish we could go kill some people. Regrettably we can't do that but we're gonna get all our international partners together We're gonna get it done So thats some obvious saber rattling going on there Well before we got to the donors I might as well play the competitions pitch
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PBS Qigong, Harry Reid NPR Support
PBS is criticized for promoting "mystical" programming like Lee Holden's Qigong specials during pledge drives. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is featured in a clip expressing his strong support for NPR and public media.
1:35:58 PBS has a, I watched this woman you know they try to palm off these weekend little donation pledge moments where they take one of the guys who's got some syndicated show and they try to palm it off as though it's local. And then not even trying anymore to make it... They just say your local station. They don't even have the other guy come in and go, okay cool dude. What what clip is this g-gong on PBS? This is the latest thing they got some guy some some buff looking character who does essentially a version of Tai Chi On PBS and talks about the about that she and all those mystical bullcrap, which is a good
1:36:41 which is beaten to death on PBS where they instead of having anything that's based on science or even traditional religion, they come up with these crazy notions and they promote them to these dummies who watch this stuff. Well it's my pleasure to welcome back to our studios Lee Holden! Yeah thanks for having me back This is your fourth show. It's my fourth show and it's an honor to be here I love public television, what it does for our community. You know I kind of think of Qigong as something healthy for our bodies and public television is something really healthy for the community so it's a... Healthy for our minds and spirits. It's all together! It's all together from mind and spirit it actually makes you a better person. You know who else loves public media? Harry Reid
1:37:26 We turn now to the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat of Nevada. Mr. Reid thank you very much for making time for us It's really my pleasure love NPR Love NPR I love NPR What a stooge Yeah really I'm gonna show myself old by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on no agenda Uh uh In the morning There you go. Mark Fusco in San Antonio, Texas want to thank him for contributing $133 and 70 cents to the cause Hey John and Adam another contribution to the cause It was great to see Adam and Mickey in Austin when you move here You'll need to make a trip down to San Antonio to see all the great human resources here needing some karma for my mother You've got karma
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Producer Donations, USS Philadelphia Karma
Mark Fusco of San Antonio donates $133.70 and requests karma for his mother battling cancer. John Johnson Jr. reports a dream about the tour vehicle, and Adam Duke of the Isle of Man donates on his 30th birthday. A karma request is also granted for a new tugboat named Paver.
1:38:18 She's having her third bout with treatable cancer but not curable this time so we're in need of some karma. You just got it and that is uh... Hey, you know I just want to say again how come no world leaders ever have a third bouts with cancer? They've got something fixed somewhere! Bastards Chavez? Yeah, well no. Chavez is on the hit list! Of course. So he's got 1337wine.com Hope those 1337 wine stickers are in some toll booths Yes we've been posting them Gotta put some more stickers on toll booths We have been posting them uh...we only hit two toll roads so far On the trip I put it on the toll booth collector's forehead Hey! And I rolled up at the toll there's a toll road when you get up here in Inverness
1:39:08 And it's like cash and you have to go off on a separate exit. And it was like, car is $1 so I rolled down the window and the woman goes, You're not a car! It's 150! And I'm like, Oh, I was trying to sneak by ya. Idiot John Johnson Jr., Troy, New York $111.11 in the morning John and Adam had a strange dream last night where the Duchess pulled up alongside me while I was waiting to line up to use the ATM at my bank! I'm on the five dollar per month plan but if there's ever sign that need to make an extra donation this was it-it congratulations on successfully burrowing into my subconscious mind Oh yeah you know how we do that don't ya? Dvorak dot org slash N A
1:39:53 Adam Duke Colby Isle of Man 108 dollars in the morning John now, which is I think these island man is and Monation East. Yeah, so he we could donate really donated two pounds In that morning Adam and John had been listening to the show for a couple of years now And with today being my 30th birthday, I think it's time to To become an official part of the NO Agenda family, I know you're both avid numerologists so i've given you a sacred number to keep that karma bell ringing loud and the feds away from Adam's door. Well let me ring the bell then just to make sure...I gotta figure out the number You've got Karma 108! Yeah how can 108 be- is that a sacred number? I don't know many thanks your special brand of analysis humor insight it is the only dynamic duo can deliver I appreciate
1:40:36 A thorough de-douching in a spot of karma, give him a double. You've been de-douched! You've got karma. Karma requests for his new tugboat named Paver. Tug away! You've got karma. Nothing like some tug karma. Good old Dame Tanya of New York, uh, for the Hot Pocket's 2008 Gas Fund hope this helps a bit with the second leg of the tour and Karma for Yellow Jacket. Yeah he needs some.
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Bungee Cord Accident, Amsterdam Producer Update
A producer in Amsterdam known as "No Agenda Groupie" reports a serious eye injury caused by a snapping bungee cord (Snellbinder) on her bicycle. She donated $65 to reflect her current 65% vision recovery and shared updates on her living situation and temporary hospital job.
1:41:18 David Rudolph Baker in Groningen. Bakker, bakker, bakker Is it bakker? Ja, in Groningen In Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Groningen. Groningen. Groningen. Eh, close. Noagenda's padstand dot com. iPad stand. We've sold zero so far. Oh this is no good! Noagenda ipadstand dot com! You've got karma It's cause he go the wrong domain name. Okay... Good Did he get the right one now? I don't know, maybe $66.66 all for the same amount from Robert Messick in Santa Cruz California and then Noragenda Groupie in Amsterdam has a note for us at 65 dollar level Yeah hold on second, I'm sorry...I have it right here Did you just fart?
1:42:15 Okay, this is to restore my eyesight. Last Sunday, Annie Groupie says she got into a freak accident with her bike. Now this is something you may have seen in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. They have something called a Snellbinder or Bike Spider Which is basically a really thick elastic band which goes over the baggage carrier. It's connected... It's a bungee cord! Yeah, you have bungee cords and you've made of rubber and there are different kinds So it was stretched to the max One side got loose, whipped The left side of her face Hurting her eye Ow! She had no eyesight at that time but it has now improved to 65% Hence The $65 donation
1:43:00 uh... to almost looking for a job got a temp job at the hospital till mid-september three she says i need an apartment and still living like a student or alike and frank god in his studio apartment of twenty five square meters which is uh... about uh... seventy five square feet in attic in amsterdam so yes it will be used in america are many years past I appreciate the support of the show and hope everything works out. And be careful for those spiders! Also a Daniel Hutner and Murphy's California sir, Daniel actually Danny met double nickels on the dime from him that Danny Meadows and Joshua Bruckner From Stockbridge Georgia in Loveland Colorado $50 each And I want to mention that we have at the no agenda nation. We do have three three three Commemorative coins that are now being minted Oh by Eric the shill oh really? and he will be
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No Agenda Coins, Episode 333 Commemoration
New commemorative coins are being minted for the upcoming Episode 333. The coins, produced by "Eric the shill," feature Latin inscriptions and are sold through NoAgendaNation.com as collectibles for the show's audience.
1:44:00 I don't know. I should go look at the selling for, I think they're 35 bucks or something like that Wait a minute! It's a 333 coin for 35 bucks? I dunno maybe it's 40 bucks 50 bucks. I don't know Should be 33 Well, maybe it's more. Maybe you could talk them into lowering it whatever the case is These are will be for all your collectors of their no agenda coins this would be the third or fourth coin I think that's been floating around and it's probably very Very collectible like the rest of them. I have a whole a bunch of knickknacks that I've been collecting on my mantle. It's actually quite interesting what we managed to produce. Oh yeah, it's $44.44. Okay well that's good. That also commemorates 4-4-4-4! Anyway the
1:44:46 The noagendanation.com is also where you can go to the donation page besides Dvorak.org slash NA and channeldavorac.com slash NA and the No Agenda Show. It looks kind of, I'm looking at it looks it looks kinda nice in aura alienum esera hit him in the mouth in Latin on the back as a velvet display box and uh... nice August 21st 2011 which will be episode 333 that looks nice And then Eric always overdoes it with the, you know, the display box will probably be pretty good. I'm sure yeah so and you have to get people out there if you wanted to thank him for getting your original coins You would have never gotten otherwise you might want to pick up another one
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Nashville Meetup, Diversity and Stuttering Anecdote
Adam Curry shares a humorous anecdote from the Nashville meetup involving a photo with a black listener and a person with a stutter. He describes the group as a "perfect mix" of degenerates and directs listeners to the show's Facebook page for photos.
1:45:31 Then we have a couple of Hot Pockets producers who I'd like to thank personally, who showed up to the meetups. Of course Patrick Coble became a knight and will be knighting him momentarily for $1,000. Dave Selden was kind enough to drive us back. Sir Jeff Smith picked us up and took us down to The Big Bang Bar in Nashville with Dave and his wife. uh... drove us back was great to a hundred ninety dollars appreciate that we have tori hunter in the morning john and please uh... yes for that week you will obey jingle which i don't have on but i don't have that on the duchess all of the guy who would like to take it
1:46:08 You will be. Please do that so the human resources will become donors instead of boners thank you for sharing time with your fans may the rest of the journey be a blessing thank you so much he gave us $100 loan squirrel thank you for showing up with water and blankets hilarious the blankets will come in handy I'm sure did get the message what's that don't send through water I think he i think that was part of the joke uh... philip welch i gave us a twenty dollars and now i feel like it told douchebag um... are our black listener from my nashville it was funny i took a picture one guy came by and uh... he had a horrible starter
1:46:52 And then we had the black guy and then me, I was like look at it. It's the Tourette's guy... ...it's a stutterer and the black guy! We were the perfect mix! Yeah, sounds like something you'd more likely run into in Memphis. Oh please! It was a beautiful picture. It's up on Facebook. Look at us, we're great! Look at us degenerates per-perfect! So guys, thank you so much. Guys and gals it was great and we look forward to the meetup this afternoon that kicks off at 5 o'clock in Inverness You can find that on the Facebook page And of course that is being organized by super producers Chuck and Dana Really really cool what they're doing and as John said We need the support to keep us rolling please
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Knighting of Craig Porter and Patrick Coble
Adam Curry and John Dvorak officially knight Craig Porter and Patrick Coble for their $1,000 donations. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" or "rentboys and Chardonnay" jokes. Birthday wishes are also extended to Sir Bill Arcand and Larry in Waterbury.
1:47:35 Don't listen to John about keeping us on the road. That would be horrible in fact get us off the road org slash and So we've got Black Knight Sir Bill Arcand, he wants to congratulate himself his birthday tomorrow on 8-8 the magical wacky number day according to the Chiners. Happy Birthday Sir Black Knight Bill Arcand and Adam Duke turns 30 today happy birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at The No Agenda Show And then we've got to do two of these John I got my blade out here in the Duchess if you could Hello, do you have yours? Yeah there you go. Okay? Craig Porter and Patrick Cobo Please step forward and extend your ring fingers as you get down on one knee both of you have supported the no agenda podcast The best podcast in the world with up to $1,000 of support for the show It is our value for value model and therefore we proudly pronounce thee as Knights at the Noah Jenner roundtable sir Craig Porter and sir
1:48:38 Patrick Coble, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable! Come on over boys your hookers and blow are ready for you or if you prefer your rentboys in Chardonnay. This is what we appreciate... You my friends And of course this comes with responsibilities as uh.. you are now a Knights and you've got to do all kinds of stuff when called upon particularly if you work at agencies with three letters which is cool extremely cool I also want to say happy birthday to Larry in Waterbury, Connecticut from his buddy Bill. Oh nice! I'm sorry was that something I was supposed to do? Did I miss that somehow? Well if you open your email you would have. Yeah yeah okay oh yeah this is a little ditty I picked up this was actually on Democracy Now
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ALEC, Private Prisons and Inmate Labor
The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is identified as a primary driver behind the privatization of U.S. prisons and tougher sentencing laws. Inmates are reportedly paid as little as 20 cents an hour to produce goods ranging from office chairs to electronic components for guided missiles. The hosts compare this system to the "slave labor" the U.S. criticizes in China.
1:49:34 And the piece I'm going to play for you was not the piece where Democracy Now used this to slam The Koch Brothers, K-O-C-H. Which is... What they normally do? Yeah that's what they always do but it was very interesting it's about this thing called Alec are you familiar with Alec Not really. Well you should be, you're the one that really turned me on to it. Alec is... let's see if I can get the exact definition of Alec here. Hold on, I should probably do the following. Consult the book of knowledge! Here look for Alec. Alec what? Alec.
1:50:20 and it's the You know what? The clip explains what it is. In 1980 there were only half a million people incarcerated in this country, now that number has quadrupled to nearly 2.4 million one out of every 100 American adults is in prison the majority of them for non-violent drug offenses you know the United States has four percent of the world's population but yet we have 25% of the world's prisoners in this country and a big part of the reason for that is ALEC starting in the 1980s
1:50:56 Alec with the sponsorship of you know, the Corruption's Court of Apparition of America. And let me just remind people Alec is the American Legislative Exchange Council Yeah, but I said- Alec, the American Legislative Exchange Council started passing bills in individual states to privatize prisons So now state there's prison companies that could make money by keeping people in prisons so then Alec what they did after that was they got states to pass tougher drug laws, tougher laws that would put prisoners away for a long time. In fact one of the first bills introduced in 1995 by then Wisconsin State Representative Scott Walker was an ALEC bill where he cited ALEC statistics and he was an ALEC member where he drew his inspiration so they put a mass amount people in jail and then they created this situation when it could exploit that
1:51:40 And now what we're seeing is the incredible rise of prison labor, where you have prisoners making as much as 20 cents an hour. Making everything from the electronic components and guided missiles that are being used in Libya to breaded chicken patties that your children are eating at school To maybe even these office chairs were sitting in now We have over a hundred thousand prisoners employed working for private corporations Before the 1990s and Alec this did not occur in this country Is this a great country or what? Well, you know this all stems from an article that ran in the nation that actually ran a couple days ago. Yeah where the course is nothing new anyone can go to yeah it's the guy who wrote this article yeah anyone can go to uh the wiki or just google and type in prison american u.s prison labor then the irony of the whole thing to me is the fact that we're always accusing the chinese which have less
1:52:34 We have the most total people in prison and the most per capita. Yeah, that includes China slaves And essentially we use that we say well the Chinese they use slave labor don't do their using slave cheap slave prison labor? We're the ones who do that and it's always nice to point the finger and The Chinese by the way are nothing but irked about this because they know of the facts And every time we call them on human rights violations, they're always just grinding their teeth thinking who are these people kidding to be calling us out? 20 cents as much as twenty cents an hour. You know that sounds like a pretty good gig right now Twenty cents there's high employment at these in the prisoners it's funny because when we were in Smithville driving around with Rhino the bearded there were these guys in these Green striped suits helping people at the grocery store and These are prisoners, and they bring your groceries out to their beggars yeah beggars
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Doodlebug's Children's Propaganda, USPS Promotion
The children's program Doodlebug's is analyzed for its pro-government and pro-postal service messaging. The show encourages children to "open their minds" and put themselves in others' shoes, which the hosts interpret as a push for multi-culturalism and support for the struggling U.S. Postal Service.
1:53:34 And they take the bag out to the car and Mickey was like, what are those suits? You should have gotten had one talk to one of them. Mmm somehow it didn't feel like a good idea She took a picture I think one who's on the Facebook page with you know Those uh was it remember that it was a juicy fruit gum You know how they like you get the green juicy fruit gum and it had the white and green stripes? That's the kind of outfits that head on. No, no, no, no, no. That's W pleasure. Juicy Fruit has never been in a green package ever! I think it might have been...you may be wrong. Do you wanna do-do you want to are you calling me out again son? You wanna put a nickel on it? Wanna do another downgrade wager huh? Put your money where your mouth is? I should have bet you that dollar
1:54:27 Mike, I would have been rolling in the dough. Well before we get to the New York Times though i have a couple of clips that are worthwhile. Yeah, groovy. Since we're talking about propagandizing children coincidentally I was watching Doodle Bugs as one does... wait a minute is that because C-SPAN has no good programming? now that was on vacation people did you know the congress is out so they asked to be hard up for doing a real so i had to go do the children's programming this on uh... a bc or cbs or whatever and there's a lot but not interested in propagandistic messages including
1:55:03 The first let's start with a short couple short clips one is mayus about the US males never late you might as well play that Just so we can get into it hold up. It's that part of the show where my hands get all sweaty here We go okay Never late this government and government good government good never late And so then we have the classic, the propagandistic piece you might want to listen to. Doodlebug's Children's Propaganda. Welcome to Doodle-Doodlenet! Wow I'm doodle for a day? Super spectacular awesome good news! Glad your psyched We need your help How'd ya like to be a fellow male snail Sure sounds easy Whoa whoa whoa it's not that easy especially on DOODLENET DAY! HURRAY!!!
1:56:01 There's so many packages, presents cards letters You should probably try it first In someone else's shoes Come on and give it a try Another person's point of view Can help to open your mind Just when you think Options are few Somebody else New idea that can work for you Open your minds! Sir Jeff Smith has a new gig. He has potential! Wow, wait a minute let me ask you question is this propagandizing the US Postal Service who are once again saying they need more billions of dollars? Is this why this is happening right now? That's one element the other one is that kids have to be more open-minded and multi culty there's a real heavy duty multi culty thing yeah and
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Cartoon Propaganda History, Bigfoot Segment
The hosts reflect on the history of propaganda in cartoons, noting that while Disney produced anti-Hitler films during WWII, modern children's programming is more subtly ideological. A brief clip about Bigfoot is played to mock the quality of current educational television.
1:57:03 And then, uh... But the reason I'm bringing it up is because when I was a kid- Hey! There we go. I don't remember watching cartoons that were...I mean, I know that during the World War II Disney and the other guys would put out these propagandistic anti-Hitler cartoons. But that was the only moment most of the cartoons were just either generalized about life or people bashing each other in the head or funny situations or ooga horns while some guy looked at a shapely woman. Or Speed Racer
1:57:40 Speed racer, I think it started where which maybe some of us are to Torten toward propaganda But did I'm watching these cartoons and it's just a blatant propaganda for these little kids. Oh yeah I want to put myself in somebody else's you put yourself in somebody else's shoes dad Yeah, it's pretty hard over its like that no excuses thing So, um... anyway. Meanwhile the only last clip I have- this is just a very short bit, I don't have much to say. I just thought that they also saw Bigfoot and of course they make fun of the idea of just you know? I dunno what the point of this is but I just thought it was kinda cute. I can't believe we really saw Bigfoot today! Wow did he ever have big feet?! I wonder how he buys shoes that fit? Hey gang
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Rick Perry, The Response Prayer Rally
Texas Governor Rick Perry hosted a massive prayer rally in Houston called "The Response." The New York Times is criticized for using a photo of participants with their hands raised in a way that resembles a Nazi salute. The hosts discuss Perry's potential presidential run and his reputation for corruption in Austin.
1:58:30 John you definitely need to come to the meetup. We gotta get you out of the house This is not this is not good my friend Yeah, well ironically no wait don't tell me you're gonna do Sunday yeah Oh hold on Just when I thought we had a jingle ready for you since you're always gonna take over this Sunday happens to be the paper so I think they rotate okay So that but so here's my favorite. The main thing is is the front page photo
1:59:11 is hilarious because it's governor preaches to thousands the response is the name of it the capital oh this is a adios mofo guy yeah yeah a prayer event sponsored by Governor Rick Perry drew thousands to a stadium in Houston and so they have this photo I wish you could see I don't know if people are familiar with this, certain evangelicals and Pentecostals in particular like to hold their arm up in kind of a Hitler salute but then they bring their palm back so the palm it should be facing skyward to receive the grace of God or the Holy Spirit or whatever. So you hold your arm out and then you try to bend your hand way back so its pointing up well apparently in Texas there's old and arthritic
1:59:59 that they can't manage to turn the palm up. So there's a picture here of all these people giving a Heil Hitler salute. No, no! Yes? No I love it! Adios mofo. I love it! That fits with him and its not like its that much... The photographer had to go around to find this one group that was particularly offensive and I would assume anybody in New York or around the country thats not familiar with the practice of this hand thing uh... would look at this and all my god brick perry is a friggin nazi what is the name of the uh... was in it the title of the article well that they may be photographed as governor preaches to two thousands and then goes into page twelve for the actual are going on and have another front page they just have the photo and there are going to be uh... parry leads prayer rally formation in crisis let me see
2:00:54 Yeah, no they have a little picture. It's part of a video on the website that's cool Zeke Hile and he's on the big screen Above the stage Wow But apparently did like this thing didn't sell out like there's oh there it is There's oh my goodness. There's the picture hold on Post that in the chat room. They'll love that yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah, Oh Participants pray and sing during the response is that national day of prayer? If anybody takes this guy seriously at this point after we've already gone through one idiot from Texas, I think we're going to have serious problems. Because Rick Perry... it's like somebody i think one of the left-wing talk show guys said uh you know when you put rick perry and george bush together George Bush is the smart one. I still think its a funny line well but you know i talked to a lot of people in Austin and they want nothing to do with him they really
2:01:57 At least our people the smart people on just want to throw a shoe at him or a boot as it were Because this guy is a total total douchebag and he is so corrupt But unfortunately, a lot of what he's doing is working. You know a lot of by the way It's kind of a hot chick in the yellow dress in that picture Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Nice legs yeah, so Anyway, the rest of the New York Times front page has got you know They brought it this where you got the warns or further cuts from the S&P guy who's now in full battle with the good with our own Government which will be fun to watch. Hey wait a minute John Wait a minute look at the woman in the blue with the ponytail she looked like she's like She's gonna puke
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Polar Bear Attack, Climate Change Irony
A group of students on a climate change research trip in the Arctic Circle was attacked by a polar bear, resulting in one death. The hosts note the irony of the event, given the common narrative that polar bears are dying out due to global warming. They also mention Al Gore's recent "Climate of Denial" article in Rolling Stone.
2:02:38 She's sitting there like, ugh. Like she has a tummy ache Oh yeah! You know the New York Times... you don't think they're leftist or anything do ya? You don't think they're trying to portray this guy in a bad light with this Heil Hitler thing Wow! Alright sorry didn't mean interrupt It's pretty obvious So, they talked about the downing of the chopper on the front page. They talked about that S&P on the front page. The markets expected credit ruling but risk remain... That's bullcrap! Nobody expected it that I know of them and the market... Except me? Hello?! Hello?! Except ME!? And then they have the last below-the-fold story is one of schizophrenics apparently can get through the day with moments of self conversation
2:03:33 Exactly what, uh learning to cope with a mind's taunting voices. Wait a minute! So when you're hearing the voices you sit down and have a chat. Chat? Oh, chat with myself I'm gonna sit right down and write myself a letter of character. So that's it for today's New York Times. John's gonna harm the Sunday Times Sometimes there is just too much irony in the news my friend. I love the way Saturday The chapel was on the adventure trip of a lifetime exploring a glacier on a Norwegian island 700 miles inside the Arctic Circle. The group were asleep when a polar bear attacked their camp Horatio was killed and two other boys Patrick Flinders and Scott Benel Smith were hurt
2:04:21 The trip was organized by the British School Exploring Society based here and those on the glacier had been sent there to take measurements for an ongoing scientific study into climate change. I mean, it's horrible to laugh about this? It's horrible to laugh about it! And I'm telling you climate change is killing people Yeah, it's killing people because there are so many polar bears that they're hungry... I mean thats just irony. Yeah its kind of sick joke your right Its a sick joke but the irony of it is to investigate climate change where part of the whole farce is that polar bears are dying off and even the polar bears are sick and tired of this crap.
2:05:03 So while you were... Most of the polar bears, now it turns out half these polar bear shots are photoshopped. Oh yeah. You know it's ridiculous I've seen more than a couple of Photoshop jobs with polar bears. What was uh, I think Rolling Stone this month is running, hold on a second, Rolling Stone Al Gore. Rolling Stone is running an old article by Al Gore called... Oh, why? Yeah. Called Climate of Denial but there was a there was something in there we like the prophets of doom or something people who didn't deniers of doom I'm trying to look for the actual what was the wow i can't find it now but its kind of weird that they're running an article from June their running now is their cover article
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Presidential Study Directive, Mass Atrocities Prevention
President Obama issued a Presidential Study Directive on Mass Atrocities, establishing an interagency Atrocities Prevention Board. The directive aims to institutionalize the government's response to potential genocides. The hosts argue this provides a legal framework for the U.S. to intervene in foreign conflicts without traditional war powers.
2:06:00 That was kind of interesting. Anyway, while you were watching cartoons I was scouring... So you don't have to? That's right! I was scouring the Federal Register and came across a brand new document penned with the auto pen by our President Barack Obama August 4th 2011 Presidential Study Directive on Mass Atrocities And this is a, so I think you know presidential directives. What kind of legal jurisprudence do these have in your opinion Professor Dvorak?
2:06:38 I don't know actually. You're typing, you're typing! It's not like an executive order it's a it's like a suggestion yeah but I think there's like...I remember there's a lot of people talk about PD 51 and presidential directive I think is that there's something to it there's some legal status that we might need to look into. Well let me read from The Book Of Knowledge. Oh please better known as Presidential Decision Directives or PDDs are form of an executive order issued by the president with advice and consent of the national security council so it's spook related as a national security instrument, the PDD articulates the executives policy carries the full force and effect of law. So it's like uh... executive order and throughout the terms of presence have taken on various titles are intense towards national security policy so what is a presidential study directive
2:07:36 I don't know. That means they have to do a study whether they like it or not So this is a memorandum for the vice president, the secretary of state, secretary of the treasury Secretary of defense attorney general secretary of homeland security now all the shills are there It's a huge list. Do they get overtime is the question? Of course, of course They do council to the president assistant to the president for legislative affairs chairman of the joint seat so everybody all the squirrel people And let me read you a portion from this because this to me basically said or says to the rest of the world, we're coming to kick your ass. and here's how it works
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Atrocities Prevention Board, Foreign Policy Shift
The new Atrocities Prevention Board is described as a mechanism to coordinate a "whole-of-government" approach to preventing mass killings. The hosts suggest this is a tool for the "security apparatus" to justify military actions against "brown people" by using the Holocaust and Rwanda as rhetorical justifications.
2:08:14 66 years ago, since the Holocaust and 17 years after Rwanda. The United States still lacks a comprehensive policy framework and a corresponding interagency mechanism for preventing and responding to mass atrocities and genocide This has left us ill-prepared to engage early, proactively and decisively to prevent threats from evolving into large scale civilian atrocities. But what does this sound like to you? Well... Yet another bypass of the War Powers Act At least accordingly I Barack Obama hereby direct the establishment of an interagency atrocities prevention board
2:09:01 within one hundred and twenty days from the date of this presidential study directed the primary purpose of the atrocities prevention board should be to coordinate a whole-of-government approach to preventing mass atrocities in genocide by institutionalizing the coordination of atrocity prevention we can ensure one that our national security apparatus recognizes as responsive to early indicators are potential atrocities into that departments and agencies develop and implement comprehensive atrocity prevention and response strategies in a manner that allows red flags, dissidents, and dissent to be raised to decision makers. Three, that we increase the capacity and develop doctrine for our foreign service armed service development professionals and other actors to engage in the full spectrum of smart prevention activities
2:09:52 4. That we are optimally positioned to work with our allies in order to ensure that the burdens of atrocity, prevention and response are appropriately shared. Goodbye rest of the world! This is America! F yeah! if it was a chuckle did you just talk about me yeah i guess you're talking there is really got me chuckling this really amazing so he's the first of all he pulls the uh... the holocaust card now basically comparing all these arab spring false flag techno expert hillary clinton trains chills to the holocaust and rwanda
2:10:43 saying we know if an atrocity occurs and of course What is an atrocity? How do you define it I think the atrocity in the United States is people are starving how about all the prisoners, we've got yeah slaves that's an atrocity right there and this means that this Will be a entire security apparatus set up to go. And I don't know kill brown people So, have you listened to Obama's recent speeches? yeah of course well he's got these guys and he is basically saying the same thing on every speech if you notice in exactly the same they downgrade their day he says the same thing they do one thing or another he says the same things really weird i think uh... but play the obama's doll which is the one that brought up the other day which is just like this is the best we can do it is like a pep talkie looks older by the way and does for what i want to be america people and our partners around the world to know is this
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Obama Jobs Speech, Made in America Theme
President Obama's recent speeches focus on tax credits for hiring veterans and cutting red tape for entrepreneurs. He emphasizes a "Made in America" theme for exports to Asia and South America. The hosts mock his 2009 promise to be held accountable for the economy within three years.
2:11:46 We are going to get through this things will get better. Yeah, we're gonna get there together Kumbaya my lord kumbaya Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of this it's in the whole thing It's almost continuously the American dream speech He just doesn't quite say it every single time but it's like you know hey sucks eat your peas We're gonna get through this together there's another one is that the idea that the made in america i did miss the beginning of this and for sure they couldn't find it because he also needy basically is still on this theme of just getting by where which is darkness he doesn't know that he say i don't know what their way anyone hasn't well we're the only guys who seem to have spotted this but i guarantee you republicans eventual pick it up yesterday i proposed a new tax credit for companies that are veterans were looking for work after serving their country yeah this isn't from his uh...
2:12:42 His, uh... public address. Yeah. We've got a lot of honorable and skilled people returning from Iraq and Afghanistan And companies that could benefit from their abilities Let's put them together No one is hiring anybody pal You need to make sure that millions of workers who are still pounding the pavement looking for jobs Pounding? Pounding the pavement Hold on! How you doing there Johnny boy? Are you pounding your pavement? I'm poundin' it I'm poundin' it I'm poundin'. Unemployment benefits to carry them through hard times We've got to cut red tape that stops too many inventors and entrepreneurs from quickly turning new ideas into thriving business. EPA! What's that? Oh yeah, EPA. It's his EPA. That holds back our whole economy. It is time Congress finally passed a set of trade deals that would help displace workers looking for new jobs and allow our businesses to sell more products in countries like Asia or South America. Products stand with three words.
2:13:38 Made in America. Made in America. Hey, hey brown person! See this hellfire missile that's about to fly up your butt? Made in America. Raytheon! Made in America boy! Yeah, if only Obama would keep to his promise from 2009. We've spent this amount of money we're not seeing the results we've got to change course dramatically now Look I'm at the start of my administration one nice thing about The situation I find myself in is that? I will be held accountable uh... you know i've got four years and quickly help people who have a lot of that's exactly right in and to be all year from now i think people are going to see that we're starting to make some progress but there still can be some pain out there if i don't have this done in three years then is it one term proposition hectic isn't this exactly where your cruising for my friend on-term transition yeah and you gonna quit because you want to spend time with malika and she need court
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Honor Killing Trial, Cultural Training Controversy
An Iraqi man in Arizona was found guilty of manslaughter for running over his daughter in an "honor killing." Chilling audio is played of the man's wife, who was reportedly hired by the U.S. government to teach troops about Muslim culture, expressing that her daughter deserved the attack for being "dirty."
2:14:42 Yeah, yeah. What are you gonna do? Well I got one thing if we want to get a little kind of something that's kinda odd in a not so amusing way there was a... If you might remember this is few months back this Iraqi fart uh... run ran down his daughter and her friend because the daughter was dating some guy that was outside the circle of things it was a big honor killing killed her yeah, yeah. That's what you do with your kids
2:15:19 So, of course the Arizona people they finally found him guilty of manslaughter. They couldn't get him for murder even though he was plotting because they don't...they couldn't The DA couldn't seem to get the message across about honor killings being a societal thing in certain cultures and they... Because they talked to some of the jurors afterwards and it went I dunno...honor killing? So anyway but that thing is they released a tape in the meantime this was on CNBC or one of these odds networks They released a tape of them talking to the initial police call to the guy's wife, the murderer's wife. Who they prefaced with I don't know if i got too much on this on the tape but apparently she was actually hired by the US government This woman To train people on Muslim... Train troops American troops on Muslim culture
2:16:13 Now, I don't know about you but if you listen to this woman and the back-and-forth between her and the policeman. You have to wonder how she got hired in the first place A and B What kind of maniacs? I mean, this is the nuttiest thing you'll ever hear play. U.S. troops about Arab culture before their deployment to the Middle East Detective Bill Lang reached her by phone and recorded the conversation It's never been broadcast before and it is chilling Hi! This is detective Bill Lang of the Peoria Police Department I'm calling in reference to your husband Have you heard from him lately? I don't know anything about anything What happened was Noor
2:16:54 She was with Amal and they were at the Department of Economic Security. Salah ended up running them down with his vehicle. Who said my husband? Maybe he's not my husband! This woman, she is a liar because she is dirty If it's not your husband then where is he? I don't know Your daughter is about close to dying Close to die? Yes, she's in critical condition. Tell her thank you Amal! Thank you! That what she needs You're a sick individual I'm good person and my husband he is good person and we are good family but this is family is dirty I wanna see my daughter We're not mentioning where she's at And you were just saying how... What happened to them was deserved We are Muslim, we can't tell my daughter She's my heart
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WASP Drone, Black Hat Conference PR
At the Black Hat conference, researchers demonstrated the WASP (Wireless Aerial Surveillance Platform), a DIY drone capable of intercepting cell phone signals. The lead researcher, Michael Tassi, is revealed to be a cybersecurity director for a major government contractor. The hosts argue the story is a PR campaign to normalize domestic drone use.
2:17:44 Yeah, I think these tax credits that Obama is passing is to hire people like this. So I mean what is this? What was this woman how is she working for the government teaching of troops about Middle Eastern culture She sounds like a complete psycho. Mm-hmm Wow, and when did you just bring that out to live enough? Yeah, yeah make me feel good Did you know this was a big tech story by the way are you on Twitter today no? Yeah We need to get your back on Twitter promote the show man. That's just on Twitter couple weeks ago No, do you gotta go back again? It's good for us
2:18:41 I'll be on for their big party. Yeah, so i'm sure you saw the story at the black hat conference which has you know sounds like oh this is hackers there's a hacker that and this was in gadget and all these all they've seen it and it was like wow You know these guys that created a drone that can go listen to your cell phone These hackers are awesome And this really bothered me this story did you see this? Yeah, you saw the video of the drone and everything so was built by this guy named Michael Tassi And she knows and I'm like so what are they trying to? What are they trying to tell me with this story in fact. I think I might have I think I have a clip Let me just check yeah, I've got a clip here Just listen to this for a moment. It's kind of interesting
2:19:35 There's a new bug flying around. It could sting you from 400 feet away and you wouldn't even know it! It is called a remote-controlled plane, called WASP or Wireless Aerial Surveillance Platform. CNN explains... International Business Times reports the six-foot long drone can weigh up to 16 pounds and can fly for 30 to 45 minutes at an altitude of 22,000 feet. Though legally it could only go as far as 400 feet. And just 50 feet you won't even hear it coming. Sounds like quite a project but its not and that's the problem The two researchers who developed WASP say It is quiet cheap able be built in garage using hand tools open source technology at a fraction of the cost
2:20:26 But don't start ducking just yet. Wired tells us there's still some good that can come from the prying plane They would be great for providing emergency cellular access to regions hit by a disaster They could also run search and rescue missions for lost hikers So this is unfortunately another PSYOPS And so I look up this guy, Michael Tassi. And you know they're wired and gadget everyone's repeating the same thing if they can do it we can do it! You know who this guy is? He's the director of IA and cybersecurity solutions at Engineering Systems Solutions which is a huge government contractor for the army
2:21:06 They are promoting the fact that you should be ready for these drones to be flying around overhead protecting you because they can do it. They can build it in their garage It's a sales job That's what it sounds like. Yeah, PR yeah public relations agency right? Well this is a huge government contract and everyone was like What's the name of the companies with we can figure out who the Public Relations Agency isn't then track it to the reporter find They just do another but reading from a press clip Let's see its engineering else well engineering system solutions you find that at ESS world net let's see if they have If they have no news here We go news on see if they
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Domestic Drones, The Daily Drone App
Drones are already being used domestically, such as News Corp's "The Daily" using them to film flood damage in North Dakota. The FAA is reportedly investigating whether this violates regulations. The hosts suggest the government is preparing the public for "drone nation" through media exposure.
2:21:49 Lincoln Labs, DeFense... no. Not immediately apparent but they're a huge government contractor founder chief executive officer J Nathan retired Air Force officer Power of the team It's a total sales job to get you ready and prepared for drone nation Well, we've you know by the way somebody out there drone nation calm. We need it yeah so we This is what we talked about we've talked about it before that The country's gonna in fact I think it was one of the kids that asked me this the other day Wendy or were using their you last Thursday Yes, I'm okay expect to see the first
2:22:37 Real drones flying around. Oh, they're already flying around and you'll never guess who's operating them? You ready for this the Sun rises over another day of misery in Minot North Dakota farms businesses and thousands of homes all underwater Not even the Red Cross is safe. This video shot by a drone mounted camera offers a unique perspective on the disaster. This is, uh... The Daily! It's called The Daily Drone. It's Murdoch's, uh- Daily Drone? Yeah it's called The Daily Drone. I worked at places where they used to call me. Yeah! Uh hold on. Very good. Nice one
2:23:16 The daily drone this is from the daily from that iPad app. They've got the daily drone Flying around and by the way great footage Oh, by the way here's a good one This ESS their press releases in 2009 come out of Frederick Maryland hmm Frederick or Fredericksburg notice frederick that's one of the spook centers hilarious anyway the f a is probing news corps use of drones at the spokesman laura brown says her agency is investigating whether the daily's use of unmanned aerial systems violates f a regulations because uh... we know we can have you guys doing that
2:23:58 Can't be like flying drones, that's our job. Go away! Here is another good one with the ESS What do you think their off-site offices are? Uh Langley Fort Detrick It's so funny Isn't that where all the flying saucers were supposedly stored? What do you mean? That's where they are stored what your problem? Oh I'm sorry oops But it's just hilarious these great... You watch this via topic on twit I guarantee Yeah, man. We got to get with this is scary terrorists can build drones No It's your government building the drones and they're preparing you for total acceptance Speaking of which though I put it in the show notes on the last show three two seven out any shown us calm And I'll put another link in I've been getting daily at least 10 to 15
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Corporate Profits, Goldman Sachs Recession Odds
MasterCard reported a 33% profit jump, while Goldman Sachs analysts placed the likelihood of a recession at 33%. In entertainment news, Justin Bieber's film reportedly contributed to a 33% profit increase for Paramount Home Entertainment.
2:25:40 uh... where i find it under about us go to uh... they have board of advisors i got here for the visors who do we have but there's some good shills in their ways and t he pays at all right um... as we uh... start to wind down the show is very difficult to end the show without uh... well we need a jingle out basically but It should be stock tips of the week. MasterCard second quarter profit jumps 33%. Great Plains second quarter profit drops 33% on weaker electric segment Here's a stock tip Goldman Sachs, oh I already had this one i think. Oh yeah recession 33 likely QE3 is coming GDP will only grow 2 percent and then my favorite Justin Bieber saves paramount
2:26:39 home entertainment up thirty three percent so uh... was the goldman story again by making notes on this is a figure out what they've done to send working on decoding it now goldman sachs recession is thirty three percent likely that this is exactly what larry summers said of former economic as our advisor to uh... to obama snog old man sacks either parroting at or I heard someone on a local radio station, as we got more into Tennessee and Kentucky there were some local talk shows. By the way AM band silent! There's nothing going on here. I couldn't hear anything. Nothing? Maybe it was the wrong antenna or something...I don't know. Maybe the FM antenna won't work on the AM on the radio in The Duchess.
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Outro, Cleveland Tour Stop, Sign-off
The show concludes with Adam Curry preparing to travel to Cleveland, Ohio, for the next leg of the tour. He mentions a planned shooting excursion with a weapons expert. The hosts sign off with their traditional "Adios Mofo" and "In the Morning" greetings.
2:27:29 But there was a guy who said double dip recession. That's impossible because we never even got out of the first one. And I think that is about all that i got John unless you have something else. No, im good We should probably wrap this up This by the way for those of you who ask every single time It's the Marriott Jazz Quintet on The Seventh Day Is the title of this track it is pod safe and you can go consult a book of knowledge and find that somewhere
2:28:09 Well John our next program will be coming to you from Cleveland Cleveland rocks, indeed. You never been to Cleveland Yeah, no I haven't I've been to Columbus Ohio. It's a hellhole Well someone has offered us their house they're not even home and yeah house there mini Cooper And their neighbor and good friends who are also fans of the show is a weapons expert, and will be taking us out shooting. Oh that's gonna be so much fun! Oh yeah... I- you know? The thought of Miss Mickey with her Glock turns me on. Right, i'll take that silence as agreement from your end
2:28:58 Coming to you from the land of Lincoln, the great state of Illinois everybody. Thank you so much for your support we'll talk to you again on the next No Agenda program in the morning I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the tomatoes are in season and they're delicious! I'm John C. Dvorak remember next on this stream The NO AGENDA Producer Update will talk to you again on Thursday right here on NO AGENDA Adios mofo Dvorak.org slash N-A