Episode 321 · Thursday, 14 July 2011

Internet in a Suitcase

A shadow internet initiative emerges from the State Department as the White House uses Armageddon rhetoric to navigate a looming debt ceiling crisis and Social Security uncertainty.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 321

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The State Department is funding a seventy-million-dollar Internet in a Suitcase project through the New America Foundation to help foreign activists bypass government firewalls. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described the initiative as a venture capitalist approach to democracy, while critics point to the foundation's deep ties to the CIA and board members like Eric Schmidt and Fareed Zakaria.

In Washington, Barack Obama warned that Social Security checks may not be issued if the debt ceiling remains unresolved, a claim Representative Dennis Kucinich refuted by citing laws separating the trust fund from national debt. Meanwhile, Moody's Investors Service is expected to downgrade the United States' AAA bond rating regardless of legislative outcomes. In the media world, News Corp withdrew its B Sky B takeover bid following the News of the World phone-hacking scandal, and Bill O'Reilly continues to lobby against drug decriminalization despite evidence from Portugal. Overseas, the assassination of Ahmed Wali Karzai in Afghanistan by his own bodyguard suggests a shift in CIA-backed power structures, and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard faces backlash for a carbon tax that reverses her previous campaign promises.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak prepare for the Hot Pockets 2008 No Agenda Gitmo Nation Tour, planning to broadcast from an RV in Virginia via a 3G modem. The duo performs a knighthood ceremony for top donors AJ Reistad and Daniel Melanson, awarding them white gold ITM rings while mocking the repetitive climate rhetoric of Al Gore and the TSA's reliance on fear-based bureaucracy.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 321 Introduction and Hot Pockets Tour

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 321 of No Agenda from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss technical issues with wireless peripherals and prepare for the upcoming Hot Pockets 2008 No Agenda Gitmo Nation Tour. Curry mentions his plan to monitor C-Span 1, 2, and 3 via a jailbroken iPhone while traveling.

adam curry· john c dvorak· gitmo nation· hot pockets tour· c-span

00:00 What? Internet in a suitcase program? Why? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, July 14, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 321. This is no agenda. Rippin' off the band-aid and eatin' my peas here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gimle Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning. I'm Adam Curry. From Northern Silicon Valley where we don't really have any peas. It's not the season for peas to be a... I don't know. I'm John C. DeVore actually. Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I don't know. I guess I botched that one. Yeah, you wanna do over baby?

00:41 No, no in the morning to everybody's time in the morning to you John morning to you in the morning to you and into morning in the morning all ships at sea in particular also the Few feet on the ground that listen to the show because usually their feet are on the ground They got other things to do and people driving around Yeah, and in the morning to all the human resources all charged up and ready to go with exactly the way their government loves them in the chatroom and no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net and And, uh... What? Yeah, it was a weird start this morning. I had to reboot the, uh...

01:20 Reboot the computer and stuff now. I have a low low battery warning on the Apple wireless I Have the Apple wireless trackpad and it's giving me a low battery warning Let me see if it says Oh 15% we should be able to make it probably have you running your batteries for a crapping out Yeah, you think it should be John So I have to say that it was actually kind of an interesting week to be watching the C-spans, which I will dearly miss as tomorrow we depart on our Hot Pockets 2008 No Agenda Gitmo Nation Tour. It's gonna be weird. Oh, that's right. Well, you can watch the C-spans over the internets. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know how well that's gonna work. I mean, Miss Mickey has already said she'll drive and then I'm just gonna sit there tethered to my jailbroken iPhone.

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Obama Debt Ceiling Press Conference and Economic Fear-Mongering

Barack Obama held a press conference regarding the federal debt ceiling, which the hosts characterize as a staged competition for public credit. The discussion critiques the administration's use of "Armageddon" rhetoric to justify raising the credit limit and questions the validity of "saved or created" job statistics from the Recovery Act. Curry highlights a CBS News poll showing public opposition to raising the debt limit despite warnings of economic catastrophe.

barack obama· debt ceiling· moody's· recovery act· treasury auction

02:18 Watching clicking between C-Span 1, 2 and 3. Yeah, we'll concentrate on 3. Yeah, 3 is where a lot of it's at. I agree. Yeah, well I don't and I don't watch 3 so you got me on that. So our president went on the TV's and I think he's a he you know if he hadn't jumped the shark already George W Obama is out of control now. I mean now I have a couple of really short clips from this he did a press conference about the American Idol competition which is who's going to take credit for saving us from the brink of disaster because that's what all this debt ceiling thing is about for those of you in other Gitmo nation countries and I do have an actual article from Moody's about this which I'll get to

03:14 The fear-mongering here is that if we don't raise the debt ceiling, in other words, if we don't agree that we can go borrow more, so basically get a new credit card to pay off the old credit card, which I think is exactly what it is, isn't it, John? Then Armageddon! Turmoil! Markets will... We have to get a higher limit on our credit card. Yes, yeah, a higher limit, that's right. You have to call the bank and say, hey, you know, you got me... Wait, wait, wait, we walk into the bank and, uh, can I have some service please? Hello? Can you give me, can we push this to five grand? Okay, come on man, give me a break. I've been good. I paid, I paid all the time. I pay my minimums.

03:57 And the president, he's saying a lot of things that are disturbing me because he's calling us stupid. And it's okay, you know, to... No, it's not. What am I saying? It's not okay. He's calling us stupid. well i think we are stupid because it is that you're done with this clip is on this other stuff he's barely told us a bunch of stuff in two thousand eight that we believe the ally yeah i'd like to and then so it's only he must conclude that were idiots you could take that as a thing about it that's right well here's a stupid is a stupid does number one is just not unacceptable approach and if we think it's going to be hard if we think it's hard now imagine how these guys are going to be thinking uh...

04:41 six months from now in the middle of election season when they're all up. It's not going to get easier, it's going to get harder. So we might as well do it now. Pull off the band-aid. Eat our peas. But then did you see he has this new face he makes and it comes right after this. Now's the time to do it. And he jerks his head forward. Have you seen this? It's his new thing. Like, now's the time to do it. I didn't pick up on it. Oh yeah, it's a very weird thing he's doing. I'm not sure I like it. Huh. I'll have to start looking for it. Then he said a couple other things. Like, this was my favorite. Remember the job saved or created? When this was part of the stimulus. You know, we've saved or created and then we were saying the whole time, what the hell does a saved job mean? And then they kind of like, well, you know, whatever.

05:42 never really got explained. And then they turned back as to, you know, Austin Goolsbee even, Goon Goolsbee was saying, well, we created two million jobs, two million jobs with the stimulus. So here's the president in the same press conference saying that the stimulus was great because we, and he's going to say saved jobs. And now that that money's gone, the jobs are being lost again. In other words, It just, it did nothing other than, you know, we just paid some people to work and then the work went away. Now here it is. Our biggest priority as an administration is getting the economy back on track and putting people back to work. Now, you know, without re-litigating the past, I am absolutely convinced and the vast majority of economists are convinced that the steps we took in the Recovery Act

06:36 Saved millions of people their jobs saved millions of people their jobs didn't create him in fact or created a whole bunch of jobs a Whole bunch hey John how'd that stimulus do what that being a whole bunch of job a whole bunch of jobs Does that mean 10 15 a bunch isn't there a definition for bunch isn't a bunch like you know 30 or something? What's a bunch of roses 12? 24 and Part of the evidence of that is as you see what happens with the Recovery Act phasing out. When I came into office and budgets were hemorrhaging at the state level, part of the Recovery Act was giving states help so they wouldn't have to lay off teachers, police officers, firefighters.

07:26 as we've seen that about bureaucrats we get to that were about blaming off bureaucrats and all these people in the tsa which will get to later states diminish you've seen the biggest job losses in the public sector. Ah, okay. So in other words, now that the money's all spent, the jobs that we, those bunch of jobs we created, they're going away. Okay, so in other words it didn't work. But John, you and I, we are too stupid. I mean, we have more important stuff to think about than to try and understand what all of this means.

08:05 The latest CBS News poll showed that only 24% of Americans said you should raise the debt limit to avoid an economic catastrophe. There's still 69% who oppose raising the debt limit. So, is it the problem that you and others have failed to convince the American people that we have a crisis here? And how are you going to change that? Well, let me distinguish between professional politicians... Oh. uh... the public at large felt john professional politicians in the public at large you're too stupid to understand that what this means You know, the public is not paying close attention to the ins and outs of how a treasury auction goes. No! No, we're too dumb! I mean, the word treasury, how can we even understand it? They shouldn't. They're worrying about their family, they're worrying about their jobs. Gabs. They're worrying about their neighborhood. They've got a lot of other things on their mind. There are entire weeks that go by that I don't worry about my neighborhood.

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Jay Carney Media Briefing and White House Video Ban

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney announced a ban on video cameras during specific debt negotiations, opting for a "still photo spray" instead. The hosts describe Carney's interaction with the press corps as insulting and patronizing after reporters shouted questions at the President. The segment notes the difficulty of archiving these interactions due to the streaming format on the official White House website.

jay carney· white house· press corps· debt talks· photo spray

09:03 Seriously, but you know what this all about the neighborhood forever. You know what this is all about this is That's right just getting by everybody so of course the president really messed it up and the the White House understands that he didn't do such a good job because he was so degrading and talking down to us and so patronizing. So you saw the Carney... I have it here, that's my next clip. And did you get that because I couldn't get the clip because I was watching it online because I was on Twitter and somebody says hey Carney's on right now so I went over there and I couldn't believe how insulting he is to the media. Well so here's I think we're talking about the same thing so there's the next day there was going to be more debt talks and

09:50 and the White House determined that there will be no video cameras. No video cameras at all! Because you're asking too many questions! We are doing a pool, I mean a photo still spray today. I would remind you that the last time we had TV cameras in the meeting it was less than three hours after the president had given a press conference and people shouted questions at him including people who had just had questions. Oh no! John! Yeah, they'll play this whole thing. This is quite interesting because everybody blows up at him, but I think before that didn't he? Some woman asked the question did you get this one the woman asked a question in these and he says to her were you in the meeting? I don't know if that's a part of this clip. I don't think so You know the main purpose of the meeting is not to create a circus, but to to negotiate so today we're doing stills only

10:42 Are you telling us we can't ask questions? He asked questions. He took a 70-minute press conference last week. He had a 45-minute press conference three hours before people walked in and created— You're not exhausted with everything that we've done? No, the President will certainly take questions again, but we have—they have work to do, so this isn't a matter— I'm not saying that, Chip. You had questions that day. and that's seventy minutes or questions the day before you certainly are understand we're just gonna do a photo spray today still photos spray surgeries and say that because we ask questions you're not going to work out for the people of the north but because of all of the support here but anyway yes uh... i appreciate your attention

11:29 So, no questions. Yeah, it comes through very good. You can't, it's harder through the Skype. So let me find this for you. Were you in the meeting? Was that what he said apparently? Yeah, he some woman asked one of the female reporters said something well I understand that so-and-so did such-and-such about you know about the debt crisis debate and and he's and he gets mad at her and he says were you in the meeting? I don't have that. I don't have that. He just jumps all over it because you weren't in the meeting. I thought it was hilarious. But the trouble is, when you get it from whitehouse.gov, it's streaming with no way of stopping it. You can't collect any of this stuff. So I had to go back and I had some other stuff to get. So I missed it. That's too bad. I missed that one too. Yeah, it was just before this. Ah, crap. Well, anyway, I wanted to say one thing about this and then I'll get off the topic of this American Idol showdown that we have.

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

Moody's US Credit Rating Downgrade Prediction

Adam Curry predicts that Moody's Investors Service will downgrade the United States' AAA bond rating regardless of whether the debt ceiling is raised. He cites a regulatory filing regarding CEO Raymond W. McDaniel Jr.'s compensation and the recent "junk" status of European nations like Ireland and Portugal as evidence of a broader financial shift. Dvorak disagrees, betting that while government-backed entities like Fannie Mae may be downgraded, the sovereign rating will remain intact.

moody's· raymond w mcdaniel jr· credit rating· fannie mae· freddie mac

12:31 I think the following is going to happen. So yesterday Moody's, Moody's is the rating agency, commercial rating agency, who by the way are doing tons of great work. They're making a lot of money. And this Raymond W. McDaniel Jr., who is the CEO of Moody's, because I did my research, John, and I promised I'd look into it. Is this going into the prediction book? Yeah, I have a prediction coming up. Okay, so this guy by the way, and this is a commercial company. It's listed It's public they make tons of money in December 2010 so this is not this is like a half a year ago the CEO of Moody's terms of employment changed

13:12 According to it, yes, according to December 20th regulatory filing Moody said it had amended its change in control plan ie if the guy gets fired so that in an event of a sale, but they mean fired Mr. McDaniel would get a lump sum payment deal three times equal his base salary and a quote target bonus Which is unspecified This information was not publicly disclosed prior to its announcement and no statement explaining the action was released by the Moody's board of directors. So in other words, you've got to kind of think that this guy has got some kind of deal on the back end for doing something because if he gets fired, he'll be extremely rich.

13:54 So Moody's are the same, it's just like FICO, just like your FICO score where there's a commercial company that determines how credit worthy you are and if you can raise your debt limit on your credit card. Moody's does this for companies and countries. So, here it is, allovermoodys.com, on July 13, 2011, Moody's placed the U.S. government bond ratings on review for possible downgrade. Because of its large number of rating reviews resulting from this action, ratings appearing on this website may not yet reflect current information. For information, please visit U.S. Sovereign Rating page. You'll have to sign up and do all that stuff. So, here's what I believe is happening.

14:33 We of course are going to raise the debt ceiling because we always have and this is just American Idol. It survives politics. However, I do believe that we will get a downgrade. You think so that's so this is your prediction. I'll tell you why. And it's going to be a Moody's downgrade. It's going to be a Moody's downgrade because here's what the news media is not telling you. Everyone's talking about who the debt leader, oh that I think we're being conditioned and being made ready for this downgrade. By the way, Ireland now junk bond. Italy downgraded. Portugal junk. Everyone is junk in the EU and Moody's is doing this.

15:12 So, you've got to read the press release, which apparently is too tough for anyone in the news media to do. So, Moody's Investor Service has placed the AAA bond rating of the government of the United States on review for possible downgrade given the rising possibility the statutory debt limit will not be raised on a timely basis, leading to a default on U.S. Treasury obligations. On June 2, Moody's had announced that a rating review would be likely in mid-July unless there was meaningful progress in negotiations to raise the debt limit. In conjunction with this action, Moody's has placed on review for possible downgrade

15:53 the AAA ratings of financial institutions directly linked to the US government. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal Farm Credit Banks. So I can tell you one thing, those institutions are crap. They're total crap and everyone knows it and this is not being talked about but there's huge problems in these US government backed organizations. So we're going to get a downgrade based upon that. I would bet a hundred bucks on this one that you're wrong. I think they will downgrade the Freddie, Fannie and all the rest of them but they won't downgrade the USA. It's just not going to happen in a million years. I think we can go to a double A.

16:42 I think we can go to a double A. No, I'm saying no on this one. Well, I don't want to do a hundred bucks because every hundred bucks I get is better in my pocket. Okay, five bucks. No, how about nothing? How about just the honor of it all? Doesn't have to be for money. What are you? The honor? Yeah. Yeah, what am I thinking? Brother. I believe that we are being... Okay, it's okay. You can be against me. I believe that we are being conditioned. I'm not against you. I just think you're wrong. You hate me. You are against me. You despise and loathe me. I think we're being conditioned for a downgrade. It makes so much sense though because it would shoot this guy. That's why he's got his claws so he can go disappear. The claws isn't gonna do you much good six feet under. Not gonna shoot him. It's a setup because the only people who win... I understand what you're saying but... The bankers get to take everything back. They get to go repossess everything like you know Greece.

17:36 They own Greece now. They're gonna own... Hey, you know what? I hear Portugal's nice this time of year. Let's go get some real estate over there. Kunk, junk bonds. Good idea. Hey, Italy's got some nice wine. Let's go repossess everything over there. This is the big steal and there's plenty of cool stuff to take from us here in Gitmo Nation West. It's okay. My prediction, I can be wrong, but my prediction is that we will raise the debt ceiling. We'll get the downgrade. Well, that's one definite way of getting Obama re-elected. Well, that of course we have no dispute on. And then the president comes out and of course this was all over the news but for those of you who didn't hear it talking about the social security... actually he didn't exactly say just social security checks but let's just refresh our memories. CBS News.

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

Ron Paul Questions Ben Bernanke on Gold and Money

Representative Ron Paul questioned Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke regarding the definition of money and the rising price of gold. Bernanke characterized gold as a "tradition" and a protection against "tail risk" rather than a currency, leading to a debate between the hosts on the intrinsic value of precious metals. Paul also suggested the U.S. government should simply refuse to pay interest on the debt held by the Federal Reserve.

ron paul· ben bernanke· federal reserve· gold· quantitative easing

20:16 Yeah, you know, Kucinich, I wish Kucinich would run as president and then Ron Paul as vice president. I mean, those two were on the same ticket. I'm in. Did you hear Ron Paul's questions to Ben Bernanke? No. Oh yeah, this is great. So you gotta just hear it. Bernanke, you know, he does his whole press conference and you know, the, oh we're all gonna die, we're all gonna, whatever. Of course Bernanke is secret, this is our central bank dude, Ted Bernanke. And he's saying, well you know, we can always pump some more money into the system, which of course is all, you know, quantitative, whether it be QE3 I guess is what it will be.

20:58 But then Ron Paul, he's like talking to him and then he pulls out a zinger which is just hilarious. So we are not costing any money in terms of budget deficits or anything like that. In terms of what we were trying to do, of course, the reason the Federal Reserve was founded a century ago was to try to address the problems arising from financial panics which did by the way occur in an unregulated environment in the 19th century. We provided liquidity in short-term loans to help financial systems stabilize. We did that not because we particularly care about the managers or the or the shareholders of financial firms. I hate to interrupt, but my time is about up. Certainly. But I would like to suggest that you say it's not spending money. Well, it's money out of thin air. You put it into the market, you hold assets, and the assets aren't, you know, they are diminishing in value when you buy up bad assets. But very quickly, if you could answer another question, because I'm curious about this. You know, the price of gold today is $1,580. The dollar during these last three years was devalued almost 50%.

21:58 When you wake up in the morning, do you care about the price of gold? Well, I pay attention to the price of gold, but I think it reflects a lot of things. It reflects global uncertainties. I think people are ñ the reason people hold gold is as a protection against what we call tail risk, really, really bad outcomes, and to the extent that the last few years have made people more worried about potential of a major crisis than they have gold as a protection. Do you think gold is money? It's tradition.

22:54 Actually, why don't they hold diamonds? Because you can... Because gold is money! That's the whole point. Gold is not money. I'm with him. You're with Bernanke? Yeah. Yeah. It's an artificial money. It's just been determined to be money. Why is it silver? Silver's money. Well, he didn't ask the question. Silver's money too. Why don't we make palladium coins? That's fine. I'm good with that. Alright. Gold is money. So it's palladium then. But answer the question then, John C. Bernanke. Why why don't you have diamonds? Why doesn't the central bank have diamonds can be produced artificially? It's not you can't make gold out of thin air there. You should have said thank you point made nobody didn't say it because the guys flustered because gold of course is money you'd be You'd be flustered, too Yeah Yeah, you're right. I would be flustered so did you any more on this I

23:49 uh... now now in less than a million i think that that you know i didn't even died except for the the carney douchebag press conference I didn't do a very much attention to the I'm gonna have to look for the head bobbing thing. The head bobbing thing is weird. The only other thing that Ron Paul did on a Fox show, which I thought was pretty cool, he said, you know, if we have a problem, why don't we just not pay the Federal Reserve their trillion dollars? That's the one I heard. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to listen to that, do we? No, I don't have it. Oh, I have it. Oh no, we don't need to listen to that. What's that interesting? Well, what is interesting for people to understand is that the Federal Reserve prints money and then with that money, that fake money, they go and buy our own debt, our bonds, and then we, the taxpayer, have to pay the Federal Reserve

24:39 the interest on that. So they make fake money, then they charge us for making that fake money and Ron Paul is saying, well don't pay those guys. Which I think is right. Yeah, don't pay those douchebags. I have to say that has some amusing equality. That has some merit to it. So, last show I promised people that I was going to re- I found the re-emergence of Pastor James Manning. Hello everybody, the long-legged magnetic. and uh... so i have a few clips i he's actually got went after michelle obama on the michael savage show showing up on talk radio in the more extreme versions of the reason he's really bad guy i'd i'd i thought he just kind of after his trial itself yeah no he's actually back in fact i'll play a couple clips to prove it and these believe me are just clips from long long winded he goes on forever and uh...

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

Pastor James Manning Claims Regarding Michelle Obama and Frank Marshall Davis

Pastor James Manning of ATLAH World Missionary Church made a public offer to anchor an 8:00 PM slot on CNN to compete with Bill O'Reilly. Manning also propagated claims that Michelle Obama was disbarred in 1991 and suggested that communist activist Frank Marshall Davis is the biological father of Barack Obama. The hosts examine these claims, noting that Michelle Obama voluntarily vacated her law license rather than being forcibly disbarred.

james manning· michelle obama· frank marshall davis· cnn· barack obama

25:33 but i think the classic why she does so with the classic one which is is uh... pastor james manning makes cnn and offer or really on the city interesting ed is funny i'd like to suggest to cnn that they hire me as an eight o'clock anchor give me one hour and eight o'clock time slot over against Mr. Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News Factor program. Now, I'm quite serious about this. I understand that the political position I have taken and my being of the racial mix allegedly that I come from and the things that I've said about

26:16 uh... mister barack hussein the long-legged mac daddy obama would cause many of the executives at cnn to recall it the very idea of having me on their station but let me just make the server several things unequivocally economically business-wise clear the and you know that's where he loses me economically politically business leave very legally and i guess that he does not that's too bad else now is it now Sorry? No, I- I- Do you want me to continue with the clip? No, no, you can stop that clip. You get the idea. He's- You made an offer. It's actually quite funny, and he says later in the clip, he says he'd kick O'Reilly's butt, and I think there's some truth to that.

26:57 So, anyway, he went after Michelle Obama in the long-legged Mac Daddy clip one, we should listen to, because I did some research on this and it turns out that his assertions are questionable. You want to hear it now? Yeah, play it. Who I refer to as the fist bumper Obama, graduated from Princeton University and later from Harvard Law School with a Juris Doctorate degree in law in 1988. After practicing law for a brief period of time with a law firm called Sidley and Austin, a corporate law firm there in Chicago, Illinois, she later was called before the Illinois State Bar and also

27:44 the Illinois state court system and was disbarred in 1991. What? You're claiming Michelle Obama may have been disbarred? This is known, this is known, this is not news to me. You didn't know this John? Yeah, you know I remember hearing it then when I looked into it, it was a, you know, she vacated her. Yeah, it's a little different than being disbarred. I think she gave up her license or something. Yeah, so okay, you don't have to play any more of this, but unless you want to hear the way he reiterates. Michelle fist bumper I think is a good one. Do we know why she gave up her license? What she did? She didn't want to, no, yeah, well I mean if you really look into it she just didn't want to be a lawyer anymore and it cost apparently money to maintain the license and it's just a waste of money and time and I think there's other things you have to do. It's a lot of paperwork and whatever to maintain your legal standing in Illinois. Why do that when you can have slaves?

28:37 Yeah, so she gave up on that idea and just vacated and it's not a big deal. Nobody can find any documentation that she was actually disbarred and even Manning himself kind of goes halfway on this, what disbarment actually means. So what is this guy's beef? I don't know, he hates them. Here's the one though that got me actually looking into things. The pastor Manning on Obama's father. Okay. But I want to raise an issue here today and the issue I want to raise is this is that I'm now willing to change my mind about whether or not, or open my mind, if you will, I'm still pretty much convinced. But I opened my mind as to whether or not Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's father, rather than Barack Obama, senior being Obama, long legged Mac daddy.

29:38 the alleged president's father what i want to do is i want to put up the picture of frank marshall davis and i want to put up a picture of all bomber uh... and uh... i want you to look at the work of the chain the jaws the the before the for the uh... for you to get out of our own times almost a is the max or what so he's goes on and on about this guy frank marshall david and or Davis and so you know you look at who it is actually this is a little closer to something that's actually that has some legs this character is a communist by the way uh-huh yeah blatant communist yeah I guess was in Wichita about the time that Obama would have been conceived huh and then turns up in Hawaii and and then becomes Obama's mentor

30:35 And this is pretty well documented. And if you look at Obama Sr., the one that was on the paperwork for being the dad, of course, Manning claims that the reason for the birth certificate issue is because they had to rig, they had to fix it because it had the other guy's name on the birth certificate. Eh, not, you know, I'm not... You know, I think when I first started playing this Reverend Michael Manning... I played it just because... Yeah, whatever. I think he's funny. I mean, you know, you can't like he makes no sense. I just like I just like hearing him say long-legged Mac daddy the pimp of all pimps This is this is not so funny

31:16 Yeah, well anyway the point is he's still, well that's probably why. Why he's gone away. He needs new material. But this thing here with this guy is actually kind of interesting and entertaining because he shows these comparative photos even though it doesn't really look like the other guy but he definitely doesn't look like his father who's got a round, you know, kind of a pumpkin shaped head. and it's an interesting situation people might follow up on although nobody cares at this point because there are other things to worry about but that's where James Manning has ended up. Alright well thank you for that. It was not as funny as I hoped it would be but that's not your fault. He's just not funny anymore which is why we shouldn't play him anymore. Well unless he comes up with something funny.

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda 321 Club Donations and Executive Producers

The hosts acknowledge the executive producers and donors for the "321 Club" special episode. Contributors including Joe Travis, Dwayne Melanson, and Sir Lawrence Royke are thanked for their financial support, which helps fund the upcoming tour. The segment includes a discussion of a melted wax seal on a knight ring sent to Canada during a postal strike and mentions the "value for value" funding model.

321 club· joe travis· dwayne melanson· lawrence royke· executive producers

32:02 So it's clear the the summer has started as everything on the internet always kind of goes down as in less traffic less everything we have less support which I'm surprised by because this was supposed to be a lucky show three two one you know people on vacation people are gone out of sight out of mind they forget about us and So we don't have a lot of people to thank, I don't think. Well, we do have one, two, three, four, five people to thank for being executive producers. And we'll mention them off or reel them off. Joe Travis is at the top of the list from Monroe, Louisiana at 333, excuse me, 33.

32:46 uh... dwayne melons on and tigard oregon uh... in the morning from surgery when the three to one club donation we give a street to one thousand will help with gas in the hot pockets two thousand eight or yeah for a day that's exactly what i thought i was a philip it's one time in a second night which i like to donate to my like-minded son daniel well that's nice who was starts college in about a month i figure you can propagate the formula in his ex Exorbitantly priced University, aren't they all? His ring size is 10 and he can you give him a or give Dwayne a shot of karma? Yes, and we'll do that right now. Of course. You've got karma Sir Lawrence Royke in Burlington, Ontario 3 2 1 club member John and Adam got Congratulations on show 3 2 1 I got my night ring today and it looks great

33:40 But since there was a postal strike in Canada, I assumed the package was sitting in the truck for a while and the sealing wax melted at the bottom of the envelope. Oh no! Wow! That's horrible! I wonder about people who send wine or cheese. Cheese? Chocolate? Forget about it. Oh man, sorry about that Sir Lawrence, that sucks. That's okay, you know you can mold it into a small... It's still usable, you can still melt it again, right? Yeah, yeah. It doesn't get... Right now it's a gobble-goo. You could use some karma. His wife was just hospitalized and she'll be fine but he recently lost his job. Oh, jeez, here we go. Karma for you, sir. You've got karma.

34:20 Uh, why don't you add him to the birthday list, because his birthday is on Saturday. I thought he was on it, I'll double check. Oh, he might be. Okay. Um, and anyway, he's uh, he was downsized, he says, because of ageism. which is really this is no good no and in Canada they probably can't do much about it Mark Lay and Long Eaton Derbyshire UK in the morning chaps hope this three two one arrives in time for the show I like the little karma's he's on the mend keep up the excellent work you've got karma

35:01 I think we had some other 321 members in previous shows including AJ Reistad who has joined us as a 321 club member. He is the first one in so he's the number one on the list. Right. And there are a few others that I think that we picked up now again they'll all be listed on the 321 club. As we can discover them. We do a special 321 listing for the show notes, which you can find at 321.na show notes.com. And even though it's a little slow, this is the beginning of the summer. We're about to embark on the huge. Well, it's a big deal for the show, actually, because the next 10 episodes will be coming to you from the Hot Pockets mobile.

35:49 as Ms. Mickey and I cruise across Gitmo Nation, kicking it off in Virginia with Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia. There is already our first meetup has been planned. Where? In Virginia and you can go to Maggie Vincent on the tweeters. And you can find out all about that. I think there's like 20 people already registered. You'll have more now, you'll have a couple guys from the CIA. Well it's funny, you know the producer who was gonna pick us up from the Pentagon? The guy that I predicted would shoot you? Well, so he broke his ankle.

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

Hot Pockets Tour Logistics and Virginia Meetup

Adam Curry details the start of the Hot Pockets tour, beginning with a flight to Virginia to meet Baroness Maggie Vincent. A listener-organized meetup is planned in Virginia, and the show will be broadcast from an RV parked in Vincent's driveway using a USB 3G modem. The hosts discuss the high fuel costs of the mobile studio and the "value for value" model that keeps the show commercial-free.

maggie vincent· virginia· meetup· hot pockets mobile· 3g modem

35:01 I think we had some other 321 members in previous shows including AJ Reistad who has joined us as a 321 club member. He is the first one in so he's the number one on the list. Right. And there are a few others that I think that we picked up now again they'll all be listed on the 321 club. As we can discover them. We do a special 321 listing for the show notes, which you can find at 321.na show notes.com. And even though it's a little slow, this is the beginning of the summer. We're about to embark on the huge. Well, it's a big deal for the show, actually, because the next 10 episodes will be coming to you from the Hot Pockets mobile.

35:49 as Ms. Mickey and I cruise across Gitmo Nation, kicking it off in Virginia with Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia. There is already our first meetup has been planned. Where? In Virginia and you can go to Maggie Vincent on the tweeters. And you can find out all about that. I think there's like 20 people already registered. You'll have more now, you'll have a couple guys from the CIA. Well it's funny, you know the producer who was gonna pick us up from the Pentagon? The guy that I predicted would shoot you? Well, so he broke his ankle.

36:26 uh-huh he broke his ankle and he's on crutches so he's bringing someone else to drive well Betty is so you know this meetup could be canceled escalate yeah you never know So we we fly out tomorrow. We arrive tomorrow evening and then Saturday we have the we have the meetup which will be I think it's a lunch afternoon meetup and then of course I'm back to the RV and now getting the prepped and Sunday, of course We'll be doing the show from from the vehicle, although we will still be at Baroness Maggie Vincent's parking parked in the driveway yeah we'll be in the in the driveway on Wi-Fi on the wii fees absolutely she got me a USB 3g modem which is a sysadmin so she's got this whole thing trick she knows what she's doing oh yeah that's fantastic I can't wait to hold her in my arms I mean it this is beautiful beautiful thing she's done

37:24 But of course, as John pointed out, we get about eight miles to the gallon. And we want to go as far as we possibly can afford. So your support is of course appreciated. It's going to be needed desperately in the months ahead because of the... It really is. going to be drained off radically rapidly absolutely listen to this man these guys are some listeners who own gas stations that would be actually we have we have at least one invite I can recall that has a gas station who said that will fill up your tank good we'll try to go in dead empty we'll be coasting So of course this program works completely without any commercial interruption We have a model which is based on value for value. You are not the product We deliver the product to you and we work very hard for it listening to hours of C-SPAN and long-legged Mac Daddy dudes It's not an easy job. Please consider us in your dream rack org

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Domain Name Project and Producer Remixes

Producer Simon Reed reports that the No Agenda community has registered over 500 domain names related to the show's themes and memes. Notable registrations include shamnewsnetwork.com, prozaccausesautism.com, and itsbullcrap.com. Additionally, the hosts promote a "podcast license" for donors and highlight a nine-minute show remix produced by Lone Squirrel.

simon reed· domain names· sham news network· lone squirrel· podcast license

38:19 Slash and a then we have a couple of PR initiatives people who are registering domain names By the way, I have the official tally now This is from Simon Reed our producer who was maintaining domains dot na show notes calm to celebrate show three two one I now count five hundred and one domains related to the show 62 of them on the links that rock and the rest are all directing to the show page. That's one crazy list he says. We broke the 500 mark. I think we actually went past the barrier and sometime in the next, we're getting very close to it now, in the next I'd say week or two you'll be able to actually point that domain name to a special server

39:09 And then you can actually do all kinds of cool stuff, hand out subdomains and play around with all the producers. There's a domain, noagendaproducers.com. So I got a lot of, this is all, I do this in, while watching C-SPAN, I do all this other stuff. Anyway, so a couple of other domains that have been registered that we really appreciate that are forwarding to no agenda show calm for now do shaman er comm which is highly needed I can see that one. Yeah, I can see that being a fun a fun domain name in light of In light of our discussion on the last show sham news network calm now pointing to no agenda show calm and

39:49 We got a couple letters I should mention from some people, Middle Easterners mainly, a lot of them. We do have people that don't get irony. Now we've got official Arabs. Can you explain your irony theory about Latins? Oh, they have no irony. You can't make a joke to a Latina about, like, you can't say, like, oh boy, I she's so hot I'd divorce you for her honey you can't say that to a Latina they don't understand the irony it's just not in their culture and she will shoot you through the head so you can't say these things I wonder how many cultures don't deal with irony correctly I think I don't know I mean we the humor is different everywhere so anyway sham means Syria in some parlance and of course we were ironically

40:43 determining that sham means sham as in scam as in bogus as in yeah and so the double entendre was actually quite remarkable and we got a bunch of notes and people saying you are you're just demeaning the Arab culture and they went on and on about I'm thinking geez I mean take a good lighten up here yeah and of course when Thomas Friedman CIA asset is talking about the sham news network to us that's very ironical Ironically as it were yeah So anyway now sham with one a sham news network calm points no agenda show calm as that. Yeah Then we have no paycheck calm. This will be a big one soon backup cash calm and sweet revenge's calm all

41:32 And by the way, every producer is credited if you go to domains not any shown on calm You can see exactly who did what and on what episode it's pretty cool So Paul has been holding on to this one for a long time Neil Bush comm Forwarding to no agenda show. Yeah, good. You know, someone's gonna be looking at that now that we have on the tweeter comm and And John did you get us a page up and rolling so people can register on the tweeter comm and get it to forward to their tweeter address You want me to do what yeah, and you can always follow me on Twitter well I sent you an email about it, and oh I must have not seen it I'll bring it up in the meeting later So in light of that we now also have on the facebook's calm on the googles calm and on the internet's net That's a good one

42:24 No, a jingle calm is a brand new one, which I think is pretty nice. And here's one boy. Oh boy I can just see all of the human resources filling this out with cool links Prozac causes autism calm. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. There's a story that has not blossomed. Yeah, it will it'll get there Yeah, well it has to so here's a list that is just outrageous Obama 2012 dot me Can't believe that that was available Get more jewelry calm mofo tweeter calm this week in Bitcoin calm Radioactive grass calm which is a throwback to the story about the FDA now approving Roundup ready for bluegrass so you can just throw it on as much bluegrass as you want the oval orifice calm nice

43:19 As a kind of interesting visual to it Changing language calm now also forwarding to no agenda show and here's one for you. John. It's bull crap calm Which maybe we just forward that to Dvorak.org slash blog. Yeah, send it to Dvorak.org slash blog. Yeah, it's bullcrap.com. Then we have, here's a tough one. It's Forsakringskassen.com. Now let me explain that. This is from one of our Swedish producers. Forsen Kringskassen is the Swedish government agency that deals with social security and pensions.

43:58 Kind of like Department for Work and Pensions. So that, I guess that's hilarious in Sweden. Hopefully. I guess. You never know. How about thatsnotinthescript.com? Another great one. Which is also forwarding to our show site. And buzzkillingandcrackpotting.com. So all of that I think is just beautiful. He says, in the morning I want to offer the following value for value. Any supporter who contributes $70 plus the episode number will have the episode of their choice remixed and uploaded to my YouTube channel. And the mp3 will also be uploaded to the No Agenda stream, No Agenda News Network. For example, a donation of $73.20 to Dvorak.org would suffice. Of course this one is free. And Lone Squirrel did like a nine minute remix of the show.

44:56 Was really good and it's linked to, it's too long to play obviously, but it's linked in the show notes at 321.nashownotes.com I think it's a great producer project. So if you donate $70 plus the amount of the episode then he'll do a remix and credit you for it. And you should listen to the remix, it's pretty good. Sounds good. Yeah. And and that is it of course we appreciate the support from everybody and there's one thing you can always do very important You know the formula go out and propagate it our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Say it with me now as loud as you can Here's when we can cross off the red book dr. B bat producer from get my nation East United Kingdom of Gitmo Queensland

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

Rupert Murdoch News Corp Scandal and B Sky B Deal

The closure of News of the World and the subsequent withdrawal of the B Sky B takeover bid by News Corp are analyzed following phone-hacking allegations. Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown accused the Sunday Times of using criminals to access his private records. The hosts speculate that Murdoch's influence is waning due to a lack of cash flow from failed ventures like The Daily and MySpace, comparing the situation to the collapse of Robert Maxwell's empire.

rupert murdoch· news of the world· gordon brown· b sky b· news corp

45:57 says well it looks like you're right he's been checking the registrar and News Corporation just registered the Sun on Sunday dot-co.uk and Sun on Sunday dot-co.uk So that means that even though news of the world is closed that no problem all the employees they need minus the losers are being moved over to the Sun and and News of the World which is a weekly anyway is just being transferred to the Sun and there's your proof with the don't it looks like Murdoch's gonna lose the be sky be deal yeah I you know what's your take on all this because I think that the way I read it is Murdoch has a lot of dirt on a lot of politicians probably pedophilia pedophilia that way I put that at the top of the list he's got all kinds of nasty stuff

46:51 And I think they just got sick of him. Yeah, no, I think at some point they got fed up. I have a Gordon Brown clip which I think kind of summarizes everything because it goes back way before him, but he came out, he decided to come out. because of some embarrassing stuff that was printed about him and his family and just accused the entire operation of being in bed with the criminals and everything in between. This is from the BBC. A reminder of days past when politicians tried to cozy up to the Murdoch empire. Gordon Brown today gave an interview on the back of his allegations yesterday that the Sunday Times conspired with known criminals to gain access to his private accounts. I think what happened pretty early on in government is that the Sunday Times

47:31 appear to have got access to my building society account, they got access to my legal files. There's some question mark about what happened to other files, documentation, tax and everything else. But I'm shocked, I'm genuinely shocked to find that this happened. because of their links with criminals. The Sunday Times said no laws were broken in their reports into Gordon Brown's flat purchase. Gordon Brown did not repeat the Guardian's claim that the Sun newspaper hacked into his son's medical records. The Sun denied the allegation. Gordon Brown said it was a wrong thing to publish anyway. The Sun say they got it legitimately.

48:14 They say they got that information legitimately. They will have to explain themselves. I can't think of any way that the medical condition of a child can be put into the public arena legitimately. They told me they had this story about Fraser's medical condition and that they were going to run this story. How did that affect you as a father? In tears. Yeah, you know, the more I think about it, and it's also the coincidence of David Cameron's buddy there dying at Glastonbury and sitting dead on the toilet for 20 hours without anybody noticing, just all for a little tinkle.

48:55 And he didn't come back. I think that's also related. There's all kinds of weirdness going on, but I guarantee you, not that we'll find out, so it's easy to guarantee, that Murdoch had the dirt on, and I think really a lot of it is pedophilia and all kinds of other sex crap that these elites all run around doing behind closed doors. And it's much easier to deal just with the BBC, as an example, because you know, those guys pay their bills. They can just say, oh really? You got a problem? We'll just cut your funding. Yeah, and the other thing is interesting with the Brown clip is that to make it clear that it wasn't just a renegade guy at the News of the World, this brought up in the Sunday Times, one of the most highly regarded of all the papers.

49:40 and then the sun was also slammed in here so it made it look like Murdoch obviously had a whole scheme that was a broad-based and it totally disqueered the deal for B Sky B which he wanted to buy which was a huge deal for him and they and the BBC basically said that Murdoch will not be expanding anymore in the UK period and I think that's I think it's over for their operation in the UK it's gonna be stuck at where it is and I don't know what he's going to do. He's not going to get out of this deal unscathed. No, no, no, no. And I've been watching the... and I think he needed the deal because B Sky B is such a cash cow. He's come out with a lot of dogs recently. We know that News of the World wasn't really making a lot of money for him anyway, so that was no problem to close it. Newspapers in general are depressed in their revenues. And then he's... remember The Daily?

50:35 This was like the big bet, the daily. Oh yeah, I forgot all about that turkey. Yeah, that was a dog. He's put all his stuff behind... Yeah, watch him, he refreshed people's minds about the daily. Well, there's two things that happened. Murdoch was the first one to say, people will pay for our content because it's so great. On the internet. On the internet. And so the Wall Street Journal has a paywall. And you know, people send me links to the Wall Street Journal. I can't read them. Don't send it to me. Because I can't read them, I'm not going to pay for that, it's crap. But even worse is PR companies said, well, you know, why would we give our CEO to be interviewed by the Wall Street Journal if, you know, no one can read it? So there, you know, that's slowed down a bit and I think it's pretty well known, although not officially documented, that the paywall experiment has been a failure. Then it comes out with

51:30 Think which was a reasonably expensive experiment But you know Murdoch came out on stage with an iPad and the daily it's gonna be the great you know this is how we're gonna knew the future of newspapers is here and I think about two weeks people were talking about it, and then it went away just like Charlie Sheen gone and I don't think I don't know anyone who's using the daily anymore and I forgot all about it until you just mentioned it. Yeah. The Daily had no online presence. You could email an article, it would show up as a picture. It's like dumb. So I don't think he's doing too well. He needed the cash cow. He's got a number. How about MySpace? There's another example for you. Bought it for half a billion. Oh, they took a bath on that. Bought it for half a billion, just sold it for 20 million to Justin Timberlake. I mean, come on.

52:22 So yeah, so there's a lot of bad things that bad investments and B Sky B throws off cash like nobody else's business. Now of course his movie business is still doing well but now the news outlets in Gitmo Nation West are loving this news of the world. It's like now we have four senators who've called for investigations into Wall Street Journal and other News Corp news organizations in the United States. you know everyone's ready to rip Fox News apart so we'll see it I think it's gonna expand I think it's a takedown it's a Murdoch takedown then it's time you know a lot of these media companies if you look back on the old Robert Maxwell story

53:06 uh... refresh my memory robert maxwell was what was the only guy who walked off the uh... also allowed to write it after that determined that it was his whole business was a house of cards and he was right that's right maxwell i've forgotten about him it's a fractal Yeah, and so you don't know really what's behind. I mean anything's could become a house. What did Maxwell own? Cash flow really accounts for a lot. Cash flow looks like you're rolling in dough. And then if you start you pull the curtains aside next thing you know there's really no you're broke. So what what did Maxwell own again? He owned he owned a lot of papers right? He owned more papers than Murdoch. He owned half the

53:47 Kind of the world he had a huge publishing empire. I think he he had a bunch of book publishers You could look it up on Wikipedia the book of knowledge we could see his holdings. It was a monstrous Operation and it turns out there was a huge house of cards. It was one Operation paying the other to stay in business, and it was just turned out to be completely broke for all four years So there you go, huh? Yeah, I don't know. I completely forgotten about him. Yeah. So you don't know. I mean, you can't tell you're not working inside the company. But all I know is that he this B Sky B thing once it's dead is dead. Weird. He can't he can't finance anything. He can't take that money. You know, the cash flow from that business, which apparently is enormous and then pump it into other things. He's going to have to I don't know. We know what I thought. Here's what I thought.

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

High-Speed Rail Failures in China and US Media

A report on a $33 billion high-speed rail line between Shanghai and Beijing highlights a major power failure that halted service shortly after its opening. The hosts compare this to the "National Treasure" (NPR) coverage of rail infrastructure, noting the repetitive use of the "33 billion" figure. They argue that such projects are often promoted by media despite significant operational risks and costs.

high-speed rail· china· amtrak· national treasure· infrastructure

54:46 Had two immediate thoughts one if the Murdoch Empire crumbles how sad I will be as the hotties leave television now I have to say CNN is already weaseling in you see that they've got the Fox and Friends type show now in the morning But no one hot unfortunately, but they're not doing kind of like a roundtable sitting on the couch little discussion thingy and They're trying to bring in some hotties. They've got some hot Muesli moths who they're bringing on and So if Murdoch goes down, I'll be very sad about that. But on the other hand, we truly will be one of the only outlets of news that you need to listen to. Because even the goodies that Fox has once in a while will be gone.

55:30 Yeah, no, all you'll have is NPR and the New York Times. No, our national treasure. Which by the way, hasn't been delivered for the last two days, so I figured there's some stories in either one of these issues that I should have been reading. Yeah, like, don't deliver it to Dvorak, please, whatever you do, don't give it to him. Our national treasure, by the way. This was a story I was flipping back and forth between noagendastream.com and National Treasure and they threw out the magic numbers in regards to trains good, planes bad. check this story out and like this is guy programmed or what i don't know it's on the way out today in which reality catches up to a radio story there are a couple of high-speed rail lines in china apart from the one that we took down the hung jill to talk to mister wonders on a the newest of them is a thirty three billion dollar route from shanghai to beijing that open just yet to get to the good way to listen listen kinda like the new york to washington route on amtrak except farther and more expensive than i mentioned the thirty three billion dollars

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

Barack Obama 2008 Campaign Promise Retrospective

The hosts review archival clips from Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, focusing on promises of government transparency and ending the war in Iraq. Obama pledged to put all meetings with lobbyists online and eliminate "pork barrel" projects, commitments the hosts argue have been largely ignored. The segment also revisits a controversial claim by Obama regarding his father's service in World War II.

barack obama· transparency· lobbyists· iraq war· campaign promises

56:32 It's like, hello, hello, did you hear the 33 billion? 33 billion, 33 billion, did I mention 33 billion? And of course this thing crapped out because the electricity went out. I was like, wow, really? Could you please make it any more clear? Wow. 33 billion. 33 billion, yeah, nice. I don't know what to, you know. So let's see what we got here. I have, I ended up picking up while I was doing the research on Pastor Manning, I picked up a couple classics that we need in our collection. Oh, good. I like the classics. I've got the Obama promises reminder part one. This is where he kind of outlined, this was done in 2008, I believe. Maybe this is the idea of the DePaul University or the Boston Super Tuesday speech.

57:27 I'm sorry, this is the DePaul University speech, I'm sure. Our government open and transparent so that anyone can ensure that our business is the people's business. Justice Louise Brandeis once said, sunlight is the greatest disinfectant. And as president, I'm going to make it impossible for congressmen or lobbyists to slip pork barrel projects or corporate welfare into laws when no one's looking. Because when I'm president, meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy. That's a commitment I make to you as president. Listen to us. And by the way, I had to cut out about two minutes of standing ovation.

58:12 From this clip, there's more to it. what your government's doing. Yeah, except when we don't put it on C-SPAN. When there are meetings between lobbyists and a government agency, we'll put as many of those meetings as possible online for every American to watch. Oh man, oh God, whoa. When there's a tax bill being debated in Congress, you will know the names of the corporations that would benefit.

59:03 and how much money they would get. And we will put every corporate tax break and every pork barrel project online for every American to see. You will know who asked for them, and you can decide whether your representative is actually representing you. Alright, I decide he's not. I'm putting that into the evergreen right now. Good one. Beautiful. Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable. I'm sorry, but well, go ahead. You got his comment. No, no, go for it. Well, I was going to say while digging around, I also found apparently a previous reference that he made in 2007, 2008 to his father serving in World War Two. Oh, here it is. Oh, all right. Got that one. Then, you know, we're betraying

59:58 what I think is a solemn pact that we make with our veterans. My father served in World War II and when he came home he got the services that he needed. Don't you remember I played that clip last week? That's the exact same clip. That's the exact same clip. Okay, there's another clip floating around that I have to get because he says it. Somebody played this and they said well, you know, maybe he said grandfather, but he doesn't he clearly says father. Yeah Okay, is that the same clip? Okay. I got that's alright. I put it. That's alright. I put it in the evergreens Anyway, that's good. That's good. All right, you want another one one more then? All right Give me the Obama super Tuesday 2008 end the war speech most of all it means deploying our military wisely

1:00:46 and the war in Iraq was unwise. What's this music? Where's this from? This is like dramatized. This is beautiful. Some douchebag put a music soundtrack over this thing. To dramatize it and make you feel good. Or is that just you playing at home? This I think is still available on the elect Obama 2008 website I can just see you at home playing along on your keyboard to Obama like pling-plong Pling-plong distracted us from our enemies in Afghanistan by the time this thing is over

1:01:26 I think it's safe to assume that it will be well over one trillion, maybe closer to two. For that money we could have rebuilt every road, every bridge, every hospital, every school in America. We could have completely overhauled our infrastructure. We could have put homeland security in place. We could have sent our kids to school. Then John McCain won't be able to say to me, well you voted for that war too. Yeah, like Libya. Because I did. I can't hear it. I can't listen to it anymore. I'm sorry. Is it bring back bad members of the U.S. for Obama? It's bringing back breakfast is what it's doing. It's horrible. And by the way, no different than any other douchebag politician. They're all douchebags. Alright, I gotta break the cycle.

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

CIA DNA Collection via Fake Vaccination Campaign

A CIA-led plot in Pakistan reportedly used a fake hepatitis vaccination campaign to collect DNA samples from children in Abbottabad to confirm Osama bin Laden's location. The hosts express concern that such tactics undermine public trust in medical programs and suggest the story may be a "cover your assets" (CYA) narrative to explain how the U.S. located the compound.

cia· dna· pakistan· abbottabad· osama bin laden

1:02:27 Big news as we have to prove that we actually killed Obama and not, oops there I did it, Osama and not Osama, which of course we still don't know who we killed. Did we kill Osama bin Laden or Osama bin Laden? It's not the same guy probably. So, well we have proof because we got DNA and what no one's talking about is how the DNA was actually acquired which is the scary thing. Already, Ali, the U.S.-Pakistani relations is in the tank, it's struggling. This arrest of the Pakistani doctor certainly doesn't help and it shows that Pakistan is still very unhappy with the U.S. raid on the bin Laden compound back in May. But let's talk about this plot because it's really high stakes international spying at its best. This doctor, this Pakistani doctor, according to an intelligence source here, is being linked to a CIA plot

1:03:19 to confirm the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, the source says that he had staged a fake vaccination campaign to offer free shots to people and children of Abbottabad where this bin Laden compound was, according to the British paper The Guardian. He had hired two nurses who were going from house to house and plan was to extract some blood from the bin laden kids in the compound and match that blood with the DNA samples of bin laden's sister who had passed away in Boston, Massachusetts last year. So this is of course the thing that you have to be uh worry about is that the CIA apparently actively is grabbing DNA under the guise of vaccinations. You didn't think that this story was complete bullcrap? Yeah, of course it's bullcrap, but that because they need to be able to you know it's a CYA bullcrap story, but what's frightening me is that people are going out getting vaccinations, but actually their DNA is being taken. That's what I'm that's what I'm freaked out about.

1:04:20 You mean there's got to be easier ways than this this charade why it's easy when people show up and see you were People stand up in lines of thousands to go get a shot and their DNA taken Well, I mean I can see that part of it. But at the same time, I mean this this story It's just I mean it just doesn't even cause the most believable course. It's bull. Oh Now why do I think the thing we should be looking into is why are they pushing this story out there? Because there's just I think it's just a CYA. It's just to close all the loops close the gaps Because you know remember the gaps were closed. That's the thing I mean this story came out of the blue from dubious source, and it's got a lot of legs Yeah, well, I don't know what it accomplished well maybe because you know people are on are trying to track the messenger cell phone and there's divers trying to get the Osama's body from the bottom of the sea which I think is hilarious by the way There's an expedition. I want to be on

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

TSA Security Breaches and Dana Perino's Defense

A report detailing 25,000 security breaches at U.S. airports since 9/11 is used by the TSA to argue for more funding and personnel. Former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino defended the agency on Fox News, propagating the meme that "it only takes one" terrorist to succeed. The hosts criticize this rhetoric as fear-mongering designed to protect a non-risk-based bureaucracy.

tsa· security breach· dana perino· homeland security· boob bombs

1:05:23 Now a couple weeks back, I can't remember and I looked for the clip, but I must have labeled it differently there were some Department of Homeland Security the the chairman of the Department of Homeland Security committee Senator I think is a senator he remember we had a clip of him talking about how we needed more personnel and We need more personnel to ensure our security and blah blah blah. Remember that clip? I do remember the clip but I don't know. That wasn't the John Mica that was one of the guys against the TSA. I can't remember who it was. No, no, no. It was the chairman of the committee. ISA?

1:06:05 It might have been ISA. He seems to be anti-TSA, but go on. I think we both discussed this and said, oh gee watch, now we're going to get all kinds of stuff going on. Oh boy, they need more money. They want to go get more money. And right after that we got the warning that says, we've got terrorists, they've got bombs in their bodies, we've got boob bombs, all that stuff. So, the hearings are going on right now. So we've got to ratchet it up. So of course you've seen the report that has come out about the 25,000 breaches that we've had and the meme is in there. I want to see if you can catch the meme and then we'll bring in Dana Perino to propagate it. There are still, despite the expenditure of $20 billion plus since 9-11, lots of security gaps that remain in aviation. This report comes as a stun gun was discovered Sunday on a jet blue flight from Boston to Newark.

1:07:03 Just last month, a Nigerian-American got through a checkpoint and onto a flight without a proper ticket or identification. And in December, a loaded high-powered Glock like this one made it onto a flight from Houston. The TSA tells ABC News that the 25,000 breaches, many of which it characterized as minor, represent a tiny fraction of 1% of the billions of passengers screened at the nation's 450 airports since 9-11. Quote, many of these instances were thwarted or discovered in the act. And quote, airports today are safer than ever before. Only one security breach can be catastrophically fatal. All right, I'll just stop it there. That's the meme.

1:07:47 It only takes one. It only takes one. Better be safe than sorry. Now this is a Department of Homeland Security consultant, in other words a guy who's selling stuff to the Department of Homeland Security. Then we get Dana Perino, the former spokes-hole for the Bush administration, who has an Oval Office, dot com. And by the way, she's looking good now. She's got her hair done, I think she has a little Botox going on, and she gladly, gladly propagates the meme. People are very angry at the TSA. I mean, every time you go through those lines, I'm one of them, I get angry, I think, come on, do you really have to make me take all this stuff and my shoes off? But you say they're doing a good job. I just, I think that we, I know the TSA is everyone's favorite, you know, punching bag, I just can't jump on the bandwagon.

1:08:33 bandwagon i think that they have been asked to do near and nearly impossible job as you said it takes a terrorist getting it right just once we have to get it right every single time in the problem for them and for all of us who go through and i have been subjected to this searches into the long lines as well that the problem is that there are people in the world mothers in the world who will strap bombs on their children and put them on point Yeah, they're everywhere. There's one under the sink right now. I gotta get her out of here. You gotta stop right now and play the TSA Micah intro rant, which is part of the hearings that are going on as we speak. There was all day yesterday. I watched all of them.

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

John Mica Criticizes TSA Bureaucracy in Congressional Hearings

Representative John Mica, a founding architect of the TSA, criticized the agency during congressional hearings for becoming an "unthinking, non-risk-based bureaucracy." Mica expressed frustration over the TSA's refusal to send senior leadership to testify, threatening to subpoena appropriate personnel. The discussion highlights the agency's reliance on expensive body scanners over more effective methods like security dogs.

john mica· tsa· congressional hearing· john pistol· subpoena

1:09:14 and this guy is the guy by the way John Mike out of Florida is the guy who actually helped form the TSA name the TSA he is the biggest what he's the guy who said that the body scanners are bullcrap we should take him out and this is the way he starts his presentation. TSA and actually pick the name for the agency and help craft its enabling legislation some 10 years ago I've had a chance to monitor its activities closely and Unfortunately, I become more and more concerned with the billions of dollars that are being expended. Some of it just astounds me. We've created an agency that's actually run pell-mell away from security and turned into a huge unthinking, non-risk-based bureaucracy.

1:10:14 uh... everywhere i turn i'm appalled at what's taking place isn't it amazing how that doesn't make it onto the news is a headline and the headline is uh... it only takes one twenty five thousand breaches were all gonna die how come micah doesn't get on the on the on get any coverage and you have dana perino who should be ashamed of herself for being just nothing more than that than a talking stooge for a government agency that's not doing its job. There was these guys, there was this guy that came on who was the assistant to Pistol and I want to play another clip here which is the one which is the, you can figure out when to start it, which is the Micah irked at Salmon clip. This guy, John Salmon comes on, he's incredibly arrogant, he was as close to Elisa, whatever her name is over at the EPA

1:11:06 who was just like Jackson, who was just like, why am I even here? This guy had a glib look on his face. He smirked. He had a pair of expensive glasses on that he had on his bridge of his nose so he could look over the glasses at people. And he wouldn't answer any real questions and he was just an unbelievable dick. And here's where Micah tries to finish off the guy has to get one last lick in which triggers the chairman to jump on him and then Micah jumps on him again I mean the guy actually screwed up here by saying he should just shut up but he couldn't shut up because he thought he had it he was lording it over these congressmen.

1:11:49 questioning which is done under the Israeli system? I think they're both very good. Well, everyone who testified, every expert said the TSA current procedure is a total failure and they further validated the findings of GAO. I'm not familiar with the witnesses. And again, I had the opportunity two weeks ago to be in Tel Aviv at Ben Gurion airport to see how it was done. And it can be done on an interactive basis, even with a large population, if we go to risk-based rather than hassling innocent Americans, veterans, military, children, and people who pose absolutely no risk. Yield back the balance of my time. So I would encourage you to speak to work with Administrator Pistole. Thank you. We try. You know, we try to get the senior most people to come before this committee, and they refuse.

1:12:43 I mean, that is one of the great frustrations. That's no surprise to the DSA. I would love to work with them. Love to work with them. But that doesn't happen. That's the frustration of this committee. Mr. Chairman, if they continue, just to point a procedure, I would be willing and I will advocate that we do subpoena the appropriate personnel they send us people like this uh... who cannot provide us with the uh... information this is the chief investigative committee of the united states house of representatives and they're going to appear one way or the other or cooperate one way or the other and i put them on notice again today now recognize the gentleman from texas mister parental so this is the second time they haven't shown up

1:13:25 Yeah. That's unbelievable. They just don't show up. They just say, no, we're not coming. Yeah, they'll always say screw. And they send this guy doesn't answer anything. He's a perfect, by the way, the guy was great at not answering any questions. And he said, well, I can't do this. I can't do that. It's confidential. And he and he said denied everything left and right. There was a big argument over the use of dogs. another big, another big. We've already talked about that the dogs are more effective. Right, they did a bunch of, there's a lot of dog testimony. Right. And this guy, anyway, the fact is this is what should be covered instead of Dana Perino coming out with just a partied line that is just that does nobody any good. She again should be ashamed of herself. She's pathetic for taking that posture when this is going on. These TSA hearings are going on as we speak and

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Zudi Jasser and the "Doctors of Death" Narrative

Dr. Zudi Jasser appeared on Fox News to discuss the threat of "lone wolf" terrorists who use medical or scientific education as a cover for extremist ideologies. Jasser compared modern radicalized physicians to Dr. Mengele, warning that sophisticated individuals are developing new ways to attack the West. The hosts analyze the interview as a masterclass in obfuscation and the propagation of fear regarding professional immigrants.

zudi jasser· fox news· islamic supremacism· nidal hassan· obfuscation

1:14:13 and they should be covered. Why don't they cover this? Why don't they cover Micah being irked at the fact that these idiots won't show up to testify? Well, Dana Perino is looking pretty hot. Yeah, she does look good. So, do you know who Zudi Yasser is? No. Zudi Yasser is the son of some Syrians who immigrated to the states in the 1960s because of the repression in their homeland. I'm reading from the book of knowledge. His father was a cardiologist, mother a pharmacist. Now in 2007 he was presented with the Director's Community Leadership Award by the Phoenix office of the FBI

1:14:51 recognizing him as a defender of the home front at the annual Keeper of the Flame dinner, these are great names, at the Center for Security Policy in 2008. He's a contributing writer to a number of recently released books, featured in three documentaries, America at Risk, The Third Jihad, and Islam vs. Islamists. But he's a doctor, so he comes on, I think it was Fox News, And this report just sums up everything you said from the other side. In other words, instead of reporting that the TSA are douchebags, won't show up, that dogs work better, their scanners don't even work, all of this outrageous stuff that you spend hours watching C-SPAN to gather,

1:15:39 This is what we get. Well, I don't think we should be surprised. I mean... By the way, he doesn't say yes is true. He says we shouldn't be surprised. These positions, we've seen it in the 7-7 bombers, we've seen it with Afiya Siddiqui, an MIT scientist, and Dr. Sabir from Florida was an emergency room doc that was healing Al Qaeda to go back.

1:16:23 And we even see it in fascist thugs, dictators like Bashar al-Assad in Syria who was trained in London and went back to be one of the worst dictators in the Middle East. I'm going to run through some of them that have been chronicled. For example, this guy Rafik Abduz-Sabir you just mentioned went to Colombia. Yeah, I mean this is, they simply remember, they are trained and grow up in an ideology of Islamic supremacism long before they get their vocation of medicine, before they become so-called healers. No different than Dr. Mengele worked with the Nazis, so we should not be surprised. death brotherhood for example is pejoratively called the brotherhood of engineers these are scientists we're not you know we hear some of the apologists say that is about poverty it's about education it's not about that Nidal Hassan was a psychiatrist educated from a good family and and was an army you hear all this what he what this guy is propagating is the the lone wolf terrorists come over here they get their education in medical sciences and then they kill us

1:17:28 Like Hassan. Yeah, that's the Fort Hood shooter He was a sight he got his psychiatry degree and then he turned around and he killed us officer But yet carried cards that said he was a soldier of Allah and our administration Put out a counterterrorism strategy report recently that mentioned the word ideology over 20 times But didn't say what it was So we need to understand that fascists like these physicians are going to continue to use their fascists like these physicians I mean I mean this guy is good. He is good. What network was this on? Fo News. Tools to fight us in any way they can and we need to start addressing what that ideology is. Yeah like the shoe bomber might have been a numbskull but the people that put him up to it weren't. Afia Siddiqui. This guy is good. I love this. He studied microbiology at MIT and did graduate work at Brandeis and you know what? This person has been nothing but a terrorist.

1:18:25 Yeah, I mean this is, you know, it's no different than the nuclear scientists that train in the West to then go back to Iran to help them build a bomb. It just gets better. Don't trust your doctor, he might be a terrorist. And by the way, in Los Angeles, Southern California, All doctors are from Iran, all dentists are from Iran, this is United States of Irania here. And they're great people! Helped as a scientist to begin to develop some technology that Al Qaeda could use and she was thankfully now behind bars and arrested and convicted. So at the end of the day we can't lull ourselves into thinking that we're just fighting a band of

1:19:07 uneducated gangs. I mean, these are sophisticated people that are developing new and ingenious ways of fighting us, and we need to be open to understanding that we have to stop them long before they get to their graduate school. We have to break apart the ideology that feeds us. That's awesome to make it the sound as though somebody behind the scenes a Blofeld from the Bond movie. Oh, thank you coordinating. Yeah, yeah It's fantastic is the Persian cat. Yeah Yeah, that's unbelievable doctors of death that's like dr. Mengele same guy oh

1:19:51 So that's what we get. By the way, good catch on the failure for him to actually say yes or no. Oh yeah, no, he says well... That's the way to do it by the way, for people out there who have to give testimony or do a talk show and you don't really want to say, because you don't want... The guy that studied, I remember actually watching this guy, John Dean during the Nixon impeachment hearings. lawyer. He would never, in fact, and Haldeman did this too, and they were testifying in front of Congress and they had to say certain things and they would do the following, this was a good trick. You'd ask me just a real straightforward question, just something really simple. Is the White House the people's house? I'm not sure I understand the question.

1:20:35 Well, do the people, citizens, the taxpayers of the United States, do we actually own the house that the president is living in? Well, I'm not absolutely sure I understand the question, but I do know that. So whatever you say... That's the trick. It doesn't matter. Just obfuscate it. Move it aside. Move on. It takes you out of the possibility of being taken in for perjury because you sick clearly said you didn't understand the question and you tried to answer a question you may have understood and I guess you didn't understand the question or you wouldn't be there in a perjury trial. And this kind of this kind of way of answering and that guy with the classic you know I can't won't say yes or no but just jumps into some sort of a vague answer. This is just it's ridiculous and in fact it would do you I mean these things need to be

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

Chertoff Group and the .Secure Domain Proposal

The Chertoff Group is promoting a new ".secure" internet domain that would require users to forfeit anonymity in exchange for enhanced cybersecurity. Managing Director Larry Castro explained that users would undergo rigorous authentication, potentially using dedicated machines for banking. The hosts warn that this initiative, while framed as voluntary, is a step toward total government tracking of online activity.

michael chertoff· larry castro· .secure· fourth amendment· anonymity

1:21:25 If you're the interviewer, you should be stopping these people, yes or no? And you see this in these congressional hearings with the TSA constantly. Nobody else answers the question. So before we get into thanking some of the people who have kindly donated to the program, we have an additional program which is available based upon a donation of $33.33. You can get a podcast license. Now, contrary to what many people think, this is not a license to podcast. This is a preemptive license to listen to podcasts because that will soon become illegal without the appropriate paperwork from your government.

1:22:02 And to prove that, we have a clip here which features a representative from the Chertoff Group. Now Michael Chertoff used to be, was he the director of the Homeland Security's? He was Department of Homeland Security's head honcho. And now he's the one selling the body scanners. Right. Well they've got a new scam. It's called dot secure. Internet security is a major issue these days. Major issue. There are lawmakers in Washington who have a new idea, a so-called dot secure domain, essentially a brand new internet, but here's the catch.

1:22:37 Users would voluntarily give up their Fourth Amendment rights to privacy in exchange for an internet free of cyber crooks. So is this a good idea? Joining us is managing director of the Chertoff Group, Larry Castro. Good to see you sir, thanks very much for being here. Now listen to this, he messes up the script but Chertoff brings him back on script. Before we get into the so-called controversy that a lot of people are pointing at, how would this work? Well, Rick, it will be an internet domain very similar to the ones that you and I and the viewers use in the dot-com or dot-edu world. The fundamental difference, however, will be that users will be required to

1:23:19 do away with their anonymity. They would have to be very specifically identified, even perhaps to the identity of the particular machine they were using. And then each time they logged on, they'd have to go through a very rigorous authentication procedure. Yeah, hold on to your nuts and cough. So practically speaking for, you know, For somebody who wants to log on to the internet, would you use the existing internet to do some things that you like to do online and then use this more secure internet to do online banking for example or stuff like that? Exactly, Rick. That's the premise. Although some of the technical discussion has suggested that maybe you would want to have two different machines to do that to ameliorate some of the vulnerabilities that exist when you use one machine for both purposes. But that's the implementation detail to be worked out. So I imagine the computer makers are probably in favor of this. If it means us having to buy another computer

1:24:16 Let me ask you about this aspect of the story that involves people sort of foregoing certain privacy in order privacy. So he said privacy, privacy. He's not reading the script. Rights that we have in order to use this secure.net connection. What's that about? Well I would take exception to your characterization and those who would say that we give up our Fourth Amendment rights. So he was supposed to say Fourth Amendment. But he doesn't, he says, uh, privacy. Right, privacy, what's that about? Yeah, what's that about? Well, I take exception to your, uh, the Fourth Amendment. What we give up is our identity. That is to say... Just give up your identity!

1:24:57 I have no identity! When I log on as Larry Castro in .secure, you will know that I am Larry Castro, that I live at a certain place out near Annapolis, and that I probably am logging on from a particular address. But once on, I would still be protected by all of the Fourth Amendment constitutional rights that I have as an American. Yeah, well, like FISA. All of those constitutional rights. So the Chertoff group, so you know they've they they're opening up the domain name system DNS system to have all these extra domain names. So this is going to be one of them. It's going to and they're doing it apparently for the .secure and of course you want to do all your online banking through .secure so that you have your I you give up your identity and then the government can basically track everything you do.

1:25:48 It's just like, wow, really? Well, I see this as just a test, testing the waters. Like making this a broad-based program. Oh yeah, no, this is just a start, of course. It'll take a while. No, no, it'll take a while. But that's why you might as well get in early and get your podcast license. I'm gonna show my support by donating to Noah's gender. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, I'm Noah's gender. All right, we've got a few people here we want to thank including Stephen E Taft, Marietta, Georgia $111.11 for my Medicare birthday.

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Karma Requests and Podcast Licenses

The hosts process various "karma" requests from listeners, including a man seeking employment to support his family and twins on the way. They also acknowledge donations for "podcast licenses," a symbolic certificate for listeners. The segment features a "karma swap" story involving two listeners in the DC metro area and thanks donors from Singapore, Canada, and the UK.

karma· stephen taft· lawrence yin· podcast license· john davis jr

1:26:31 $33.33 for a podcast license aforementioned and $5.56 just to even things out. $450 healthy doses of karma for my hiking buddy Ronnie who started his fourth and final round of chemo. We hate cancer. You've got karma. And Stephen hopes to see you in Atlanta on the tour. That's right on the tours. Yeah Baron von Pels mockers felt of his Normal, oh my goodness the greatest guy we know He owns Belgium by the way, so I guess he decided to turn down the street lamps to 50%

1:27:11 You got us $147.11 in French fries. A special shout out to your French listeners. Happy Bastille Day. Today is the French Independence Day. That's right. Joyeuse Bastille. So hereby a donation to commemorate it. 147.11, 14th July 19, 2011. Written European style. Adam can add the Sacrebleu. Sacrebleu! Lawrence Yin in D-Y-D-E-E-Y-W-H-Y. Is this really right? Is this like Wagga Wagga? South of the New South Wales. D, just D. I don't know. In the morning, John and Adam, $111.11. This is Lawrence from Gitmo Nation Chili Crab, aka Singapore. That's where he really is. This is my first donation after listening for about six months.

1:27:57 Please give me a dee-douche. I'll be happy to do that You've been dee-douche It's also my pleasure to out my friend Ying from Gitmo Nation down under as a long-term boner, not a donor douchebag. However, she is currently in need of some karma for her job application. So give her some... You've got karma. Jingle fist. Yeah, it is. NAjingle.com. James Von Aiken in Temple, Texas. Hey guys, first time donor. Really enjoy listening to you at work.

1:28:34 There are more people who, I've received a couple emails this week from people saying, you know, I've been listening to you because a guy at work insists on playing the show. He must be the boss. I mean, how else can you... There's no asscap issues. No, exactly. Can you just imagine owning a company and like, you know, there's some guy who's just playing this? I mean, yeah. If you're the boss, that's cool. Anyway, anyway, uh, enjoy listening to work it decided to give you a countdown contribution honor of show three two one Which is seven six four and then I guess you could add the now he's got seven seven six five four That's what he did. I'm sorry seven six five four and then we have Daniel Hutner Sir, Daniel, sir, Daniel Hutner and Murphy's double niggles on the dime mark cable

1:29:28 and hold on a second I don't understand where my right scroll bar is on this. Mark has a birthday shout out for his wife which we have lined up that's all set. and then I got it finally came down I and really have a shit son in gravenhurst ontario canada $50 be a be a donor not a boner deducing please you've been D dushed he's listened to know it's innocence episode one also DSC and twit since 2003 needs a deducing and she just gotten maybe he'll completely dedu- dedu- deducified with the next donation. Chris Lewinsky, George Scanlon, Jason Burke, respectively from Sherwood Park, Alberta, Carpentersville, Illinois, Richmond, Texas.

1:30:16 Leonard Libet's in Jersey City, New Jersey and Mike Westerfield, Sir Mike Westerfield as a matter of fact all came in with $50. I want to thank them and everybody else who donated especially all the $33.33 donors who are getting their podcast licenses and that crazy domain. Yeah. You should explain again by the way. Podcastlicense.com is it's kind of cool if you donate $33.33 you get automatically got a podcast license we fill them out once a week so not after every single show but once a week so they'll be done by tomorrow and you get your first name last name dot podcastlicense.com it's a beautiful certificate you can print it out so when the federales come and they say what do you listen to son you say oh I'm a podcast licensor.

1:31:04 And we also have to mention one more thing which is another knight. Actually, there's two that aren't on the original list. But no, this is a different one. This is Sir Cecil Norris. Do you have that? No. Sir Cecil Norris came in anonymously. Apparently, his wife, this isn't his name, but he's going to be called Sir Cecil Norris. His wife doesn't like the idea of him even listening to the show. But apparently, he's donated enough that he's now a knight. Really? Yeah, so add Sir Cecil Norris. Interesting. And he can also be an executive producer because he did come in with a goodly amount of money. Let me just put it in. But he's on the QT. I hate to say it, but people have to do that. Yeah, and I actually emailed him back and said, hey, Sir Cecil, easy on the old lady.

1:31:53 You know, I think he actually didn't say in his note that if she keeps on bitching about me playing no agenda I'm divorcing her That's not a good idea dude. Really? I mean I don't want to break up marriages. No, that's not good couple of karma stories Paul the book guy says after sending a donation to Noah Jennifer some karma last week specifically for the Paul the book guy podcast karma did its magic as of writing this email we are a new and featured podcast on the iTunes Store and For not top of the list when you search for book reviews, so that's good Which I think also might be the fact that we mentioned the podcast and people went searching for it So we take a little credit for that, but I think karma definitely did its job

1:32:38 John Davis Jr. Adam, I know you don't usually do this but I'm in desperate need of some help. I have a wife and son with unexpected twins on the way. My current job doesn't provide what my family and I need to survive. Last year we lived on $25,000 after health care was deducted 6K. We just found out that we have twins on the way. I've applied to over 400 jobs in the past two years and have one interview in two years. I'm at the end of my rope. Don't know what else to do or who to turn to. This is why I'm asking for some no agenda karma. I know I'm supposed to donate in order to get it, but money is extremely tight. We can't make any of our payments really. I plan to donate funds as soon as they become available. So that really tugged at my heartstrings. So I just want to hand out some karma there, special karma. You've got karma.

1:33:26 And then finally one of our producers says, hey I was listening to episode 320 you mentioned Chris who moved from California to get my nation command and control that would be the DC metro area for a job at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda funny I turned that job down about a week earlier because of my obligations as a techno expert at my agency so it looks like we had a karma swap Wow yeah and he says In this last line so they end up getting on Noah getting a no agenda listener producer in exchange for another whispers We're everywhere So I thought that was a beautiful karma exchange story this that you know, that's good we're out there man I love that. I really do so, please consider donating some karma to somebody

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony and ITM Rings

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a knighthood ceremony for four listeners who donated $1,000 or more: AJ Reistad, Daniel Melanson, Don Bean, and Cecil Norris. The new knights are granted the title "Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" and are eligible to receive white gold "In The Morning" (ITM) rings. The hosts emphasize the importance of listener support to avoid returning to corporate media jobs.

knighthood· aj reistad· daniel melanson· don bean· cecil norris

1:34:18 Or karma for yourself or really just supporting the show so that we can continue to produce as much as possible and not have to take other douchebag corporate gigs. which I'm in risk of doing, really a risk of doing again. It's getting kind of hectic. You won't be able to do it while you're on the road. No, and that's an extra added expense, but boy are we excited about it. If you have an invitation, please send it to micky, M-I-C-K-Y at curry.com, not to be confused with mickycurry.com, the website. And hotpockets2008.com, that's where you can follow the trip.

1:34:59 Thank you all very much. Let me program your brain where you can send your support for org slash and So I got two birthdays, I think John Stephen he taft the wishes himself a happy Medicare birthday What does that mean? Is that that kicking when you're 65? Oh We actually had a third birthday that we mentioned earlier in the show. And Mark Cable says happy birthday to Catherine Cable. She'll be celebrating her birthday tomorrow on the 15th of July. So happy birthday to all of y'alls from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.

1:35:42 Sir Lawrence Royke. Did I miss him? Yeah. Yeah, what did I do wrong? Yeah, I was like moving stuff around. And Sir Lawrence Royke, I'm sorry. Happy birthday, Sir Lawrence. Well, give him another one on Sunday. Yeah, I'd be happy to do that. We got a couple of knighthoods here we gotta do, John. Should have four, I think. Yes, I do. If you can just grab your, can you grab your blade? AJ Reiss-Reistad! Daniel Melanson, Don Beam, Cecil Norris, please step forward extend your middle finger or ring finger whichever one you prefer All of you have completed the task of supporting the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the world, with donations of up to $1,000. Therefore, we now proudly pronounce thee all Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. Sir AJ Reistad, Sir Daniel Melanson, Sir Don Bean, and Sir Cecil Norris.

1:36:38 Enjoy your rings. They are made of white gold and work perfectly when you hit someone in the mouth. They leave the impression of hit him in the mouth. ITM with a number three in perfect mirror script on the ring so it turns out perfectly when you do it on their face. And of course we've got the hookers and blow and rent boys and chardonnay for you. We appreciate the support. I think we have to order more rings. Which by the way, they're not free. These rings, they're beautiful rings. If you haven't seen them, rings.nashownotes.com is where you can check them out. I got a couple things. I'd like to talk to our producers down under in Australia.

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

Julia Gillard and the Australian Carbon Tax

Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced a new carbon tax, reversing a previous campaign promise. Gillard repeatedly used the phrase "the science is in" to justify the policy as a necessary response to climate change and extreme weather events. The hosts mock the repetitive nature of her rhetoric and its similarity to global climate memes.

julia gillard· australia· carbon tax· climate change· science is in

1:37:28 The Aussies have been big supporters of the show. We have I think we got a couple nights down under but they're always emailing and I Feel we have some kind of connection I know if it's just you and I John or if it's the show or whatever it is. Maybe they don't have enough Alternative media down there, but a lot of them listen and a lot of them Love what we're talking about and I received this next clip from their prime minister Julia Gillard who is, who of course said there would be no carbon taxes and the minute she got elected she turned around and said yeah let's do some carbon taxes and everyone's pretty pissed about that but she came, I couldn't believe it, it's almost as if she's sending a message to us. I don't know if you've heard this John but here she is talking about the necessity for carbon taxes

1:38:26 for climate change Greg Combey and I'm here today to announce how Australia will seize its clean energy future. My focus will be on explaining how we will build that clean energy future. But I want to talk about two things that have brought us to this moment today. First, the avalanche of science that tells us our climate is changing. The science is in. The science is in! Ah, not once, but she says it another time! We know that our planet is warming. We know that that warming is changing our climate, causing sea levels to rise, meaning that there will be more days of extreme heat, meaning that we are at risk of more bushfires and droughts.

1:39:15 meaning that great icons like the Great Barrier Reef are at risk. So we are here today because the science is in. The science is in! Science! The science is in! She's literally saying it! Yeah, well, you know, it's... I heard it from us and said, that's not bad, I like it. The science is in! I heard, I heard there's a curry in Dvorak. The science is in, I kind of like that. Let's use it. The science is in. The science is in. Is that in your face or what? So then, so of course, right on cue, Douchebag Al Gore reappears. And he's got a Hands Across America thing. Have you heard about this? It's called Climate Reality. Oh, we're not doing another Hands Across America. Oh yes we are. Here's the commercial.

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

Al Gore's "Climate Reality" Campaign and Denier Threats

Al Gore launched the "Climate Reality Project," a campaign intended to "reveal the deniers" and link cataclysmic weather events directly to climate change. The hosts criticize Gore for conflating weather with climate—a practice he previously discouraged—and characterize his rhetoric as a sleazy threat against scientific dissenters.

al gore· climate reality· big oil· weather vs climate· deniers

1:40:15 What can change in a day? A street can become a river. A mountain can become a mudslide. A forest can become kindling. Across the globe, cataclysmic weather events are occurring with such regularity. By the way, how come all of a sudden it's okay to compare weather to climate? Now he's saying cataclysmic weather events. I thought that... Wait a minute, we were told long ago that you can't compare weather and climate. No, if you're a horny poodle... By him! Yeah! Well, if you're a horny poodle, you're allowed to apparently. Listen to the rest here. That it's being called a new normal. It's the new normal! Oh, it's a meme fest! Another meme. But there's nothing new normal about it. And there's something else that lies destroyed amid the rubble. The truth about climate change.

1:41:02 Big oil and big coal are spending big money to spread doubt about climate change. They've been able to do so quietly, but not anymore. On September 14th, the world will join hands to create 24 hours of reality. Hey! The world will join hands to create 24 hours of reality. I love it! You got me on this one. I should have been on this one. Yeah, it gets better. Focus the world's attention on the full truth, scope, scale and impact of the climate crisis. To remove the doubt, reveal the deniers.

1:41:39 We're going to be revealed on September 14th. Oh, hey, we got a climate denier in here climate change denier You know it's cataclysmic weather events son reveal the deniers What a sleazy bag. That's a threat That's a threat. The guy's a sleazeball. That's a threat. But this is what happens with, you know, there's a lot of people, in fact, like I mentioned this before on the show, there are actual living climatologists that study this stuff who don't buy into this, but they've been so browbeaten by this crowd

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Professor Richard Lindzen Critiques IPCC Climate Models

MIT Professor Richard Lindzen, a lead author on previous IPCC reports, criticized current climate models as being reliant on "fudge factors" like aerosols to match observed temperatures. In an interview on the Australian show *The Bolt*, Lindzen argued that natural variability like El Niño is as significant as human activity and that an Australian carbon tax would have no detectable impact on global temperatures.

richard lindzen· mit· ipcc· climate models· aerosols

1:42:16 and threatened as you can just tell, they just did it right there, that they can't say anything. Well I'm glad you bring that up John as I have a clip here from Professor Richard Lindzen from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He participated on the first IPCC report number 7 I believe or section 7 whatever they call it advertising. They came out in 2001 So this was the very first report and he is being interviewed on a show called The Bolt, an Australian show, and he's laughing. So if you Google him, if you consult the book of knowledge, you'll see right there IPCC, the guy is in the report and he's, well let's just listen to it, he's been browbeaten and he's a denier now.

1:43:05 Richard Lindzen is arguably the world's most distinguished climate scientist. He's professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He's been a lead author of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports that the Gillard government says it relies on. In fact, even Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery, our leading alarmist, recommends him. Professor Richard Lindzen of Massachusetts Institute of Technology, you said he's reputable isn't he? Professor Lindzen, thanks for joining us from Paris. Now our government says we must have a carbon dioxide tax to help stop global warming, which it says is damaging Australia already. Can we start with some basics? First, how much is the planet actually warming?

1:43:52 Well, over the century or maybe 150 years, it may be somewhere between a half and three quarters of a degree centigrade. I don't know what it is locally in Australia. Since 1995, there hasn't been much warming, certainly not that can be distinguished from noise. Is that warming lower than what the climate alarmists have been telling us to expect? Oh yeah, I mean you have a constant game going on. You know the IPCC once said that they thought it probable that man's emissions that accounted for most of the warming over the last 50 years. A more correct statement might have been

1:44:48 that according to current models, man has accounted for between two and five times the warming we've seen in the last 50 years and the models have cancelled the difference by arbitrary adjustments and they call them aerosols but they vary from model to model and they're just fudge factors. Now, if we've seen a rise in carbon dioxide emissions, as we have, a very big rise in this last decade or more, but no real warming, what does that say about global warming theory? What it says is that... And, you know, it doesn't uniquely say anything. It says there are certainly other things going on that are just as big. These things like El Nino, Pacific decadal oscillation,

1:45:38 are giving you as much variability as whatever man is doing and because of that you can't even tell if man is doing anything. Can I ask you, if we do get further warming caused by man, would that warming be good for us or bad? That's always hard to tell. I mean, you know, it'll be good for some people, a little worse for others. It'll be completely within the range of what human beings have shown they're capable of adapting to and even prospering under. What effect would a carbon dioxide tax in Australia, the aim is to cut our emissions by 5% by 2020, what effect would that have on the world's temperature?

1:46:27 I don't think anyone could possibly detect it even with future technology. It would be nothing for all practical purposes and it would be nothing if the whole world did the same. Thank you. That helps. It'll do nothing. Some scammers make money. Come on, that's something. So there you go, that's the guy from the IPCC. Funny how he doesn't make it onto Al Gore's hands across the world. Oh no, he doesn't. He'll be outed. By the way, did you notice one discrepant piece of information floating around? There was one group of people saying, oh, there's so much carbon dioxide that it's acidifying the oceans, and then a report just came out like a week or so ago saying, oh, the oceans can't suck up the carbon dioxide anymore. You know, it's going to be terrible. It's going to make global warming worse. I mean, you can't have

1:47:23 You can't have it both ways, no. But have you ever seen Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Of course, the original. Yeah, the original. Where the people who have been body snatched come out of the pods and then if they see a non-pod person on the street they go, ahhhhhh! And they start pointing. That's what's gonna happen. Denial! Right, and all these pod people led by Al Gore who acts like one of the pod people. So I think it's the giveaway. We'll be screeching like that. Fantastic. Yeah, anyway, yeah, this is what it's gonna be. It's what it's gonna be. I find it abhorrent

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

Internet in a Suitcase and the New America Foundation

The State Department is funding an "Internet in a Suitcase" project through the New America Foundation to help activists bypass government firewalls. The hosts highlight the foundation's ties to the CIA, noting that its logo shares the same star as the agency's seal and that board members include Fareed Zakaria and Eric Schmidt. Hillary Clinton described the $70 million initiative as a "venture capitalist approach" to promoting democracy abroad.

internet in a suitcase· new america foundation· steve coll· cia· hillary clinton

1:48:03 It's just depressing. Well anyway, I get Al Gore's back in the news is bad enough. Well, they got it They got it. Yeah, really this the sex crazed poodle. They got they got to stop this woman in Australia I mean this is as far as I know the first country that is actually just like boom carbon tax and people are pissed off Yeah, well, maybe they'll vote her out instead of just grousing. This is the problem Everybody grouses and grouses or they go online and Twitter a complaint. Yeah, you know this is do anything So now I have a little round of my favorite person in the whole world. Actually three of my favorite women. If you could name my three favorite women in politics, who would they be? Janet Napolitano. No, okay, four. Lucy? Lucy's not a part of this. Really? She's one of your favorites. She's not a politician. What? She was a governor. She's not a politician now, she's a servant.

1:48:58 Try three others. Okay, let me think. How hard could this be? The chat room... Well Hillary would be one of them. Lucifer is one, yes. She's not a politician by your same standards that you just gave Janet. Okay. So who's... Alright, so we got one. We got one. We got one. Let's see. Oh, Michelle Bachman. No, no, no, no. Come on, she's one of your favorites. Nah, my favorite... the ones I love to hate. Michelle Bachman. Sarah Palin? Is she in there? No, no, no, no. Oh, please. No. High Priestess Baroness Lady Ashton. Oh yeah. Of Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe. And Susan Rice.

1:49:39 Buses in power no no no I only got the clips from these three I hate them all I hate them all I hate them all so I've got to know Lucifer and Kathy the high the high representative the high representative they did a press conference together and by the way it's like when you see these two standing next to each other please check it out in the show notes 3 2 1 dot NA show notes calm it's like I understand you can't see the reflection in a mirror. Neither of them. So my first clip is not from either of the women. This is actually from some representative from the State Department and he's at the New America Foundation.

1:50:25 Are you familiar with the New America Foundation? Yeah. What do they do? I don't remember. Well, they're either a right-wing or a left-wing promotion group. Right. Well, they're promoting... I think they're the right-wingers, aren't they? Well, Farid is on the board, Farid Zakaria. Oh, and then they're a bunch of douchebags. Yeah, total douchebags. And so they send some representative from Lucifer to go talk about what he's doing with the techno experts and a new meme! Another one a new technology and so this is a two minutes This guy blows the lid wide open on everything how we are actually training people to infiltrate the tweeters in the Facebook's and We're implementing all kinds of cool technology to do it, and he's just sitting there and saying it I get a lot of invitations to speak these days But most of them are a lot less cool than this one cool usually the cool invitations go to my colleague in Schuller Who's our resident techie in the Bureau of Human? Haki Takiocracy and labor

1:51:28 Ian's going to be speaking later this afternoon on a panel with Sasha Minrath about the Internet in a Suitcase program that we're doing. Have you heard of this? What? The Internet in a Suitcase program? Wow! Yeah, he comes back to it, he doesn't end around. There's all kinds of cool stuff. We got Internet in a Suitcase, everybody. Funding, and it's being done here at New America. I want to thank all... So, wait a minute. So New America is taking money and the number 70 million, he'll tell you in a second, and creating the internet in a suitcase. Also Steve Cole for his leadership in that effort.

1:52:08 I'm particularly pleased to be here today because as I look around this room there's so many leaders, policy makers, journalists, techies, activists. So that's everybody, techno experts. I see Rebecca McKinnon in the second row who's been such a leading voice on these issues for so many years and a great colleague. All of you have helped shape this conversation and many have helped governments, including our own, come to grips with the challenges and the opportunities that are posed by this transformational set of new technologies. We're excited about the Internet in a Suitcase project, one of a number of cutting-edge technologies and projects we're investing in. It's part of what Secretary Clinton called

1:52:54 calls a venture capitalist approach to addressing the wide range of challenges that democracy and human rights activists face in internet repressive environments around the world. Now what does that mean? A venture capitalist approach? to stopping regimes from being oppressive around the world. So does that mean they're investing and that there's going to be profits coming out of this? Or what exactly does that mean, investing, a venture capitalist approach? Well, I mean one possibility, I don't know what it means, but one possibility would be like you run a bunch of these scams in as many places as you can and see what happens because venture capitalists tend to... That runs scams, and if one sticks, right? They run 20 companies out there, hopefully one of them kills, you know. Right. And makes it up for all the rest. I mean that might be what they're doing. That's a good point. Listen to some of these, besides the internet and the suitcase, which we're very excited about, there's more.

1:53:52 By the end of this year, my bureau will have led the efforts within the US government to award $70 million in grants. We're supporting a dozen different circumvention technologies. We're supporting a panic button app for mobile phones. I need me that, a panic button. A slingshot program. Slingshot program. The hell's a slingshot program? They equip rebels with slingshots. Here's a rock, here's a twig with a rubber band. I don't know what a slingshot is. It's another thing. It's like all these cool technologies. Cool. Right. To identify censored content that users are searching for in a particular country. Oh. So it identifies censored content. And then flinging it back over the firewalls where ordinary citizens can get access to it. That sounds cool!

1:54:45 So, I guess it identifies censored content, then slingshots it back over the firewall. Could this guy use any more crazy metaphors? Training programs to help activists operating in repressive areas, to keep operating, thwart surveillance and protect their privacy. To date we've trained 5,000 activists. No, there you go. 5,000 activists. Okay, let's, here's a couple of things we should quickly make clear. Steve Cole's the guy who's the head of the of this New America Foundation. I want you to do two things. One, first of all go grab yourself and put on your screen a copy of the CIA logo. Oh no. Okay let's do it. CIA logo. Okay. Now in the CIA logo there's a star in the middle. Yeah now take a look at the New America Foundation logo. It's exactly the same star.

1:55:43 Steve Cole was a journalist, he was a journalist, professional journalist that apparently was I would assume was Probably offered a deal because he did do a book called ghost wars the secret history of the CIA and as you know You don't do a CIA book without the CIA approval. Yeah approval from an unapproved CIA book in this country or anyplace else or you'll be in the hot tub with the cover on It's not good and his whole background I mean is is interesting because he ends up in New Delhi, you know, and he's doing this so that Washington Post South Asia Bureau chief for some reason and

1:56:19 and so this is so this operation is more than just a liberal think tank is a think tank of some sort they call it a think tank but it seems to be out now front yeah for the CIA yeah and they even have the same elements of the logo. They put the same star on there just so in case you're too stupid to notice. Well I think it goes beyond that. I think there's a subliminal programming thing to it. Well notice the people that are in it. Now first we got the star and then we got Fareed Zakaria who's trying to subvert the US Constitution which concerns me.

1:56:55 tool go one day who now I know who this guy is Eric Eric Schmidt Fukuyama Eric Schmidt well Eric Schmidt makes sense to me yeah you gotta have the Googles on James Fallows of formal Federal Reserve vice chairman Roger Ferguson yeah so total total spoof organization And so this thing here with the internet in a suitcase is fascinating. Did you find anything on the internet in a suitcase? No, I haven't yet. You know what it is. It's just a... It's essentially what NGOs do. They package up an entire process. It's not just a cable modem?

1:57:35 This is a cable mode. There's a book that tells you what to do, how to do it, how to join, how to use... There's a whole bunch of articles here. Yeah? Austrian Funkfeuer helps American Internet in a suitcase project. censorship solution internet in a suitcase internet in a suitcase hopes to send repressive regime's packing oh that's a funny one oh that's a good US funds shadow networks builds internet in a suitcase this is from New America this is from their own website yeah well it's obvious what is the kit

1:58:13 And build your own internet in a suitcase. You think they would call it internet in a box? No, actually that's already been done. It's trademarked. It's trademarked, that's why they had that. Because a suitcase seems like an awfully big item. Does this is a carry-on item or is it like a... It's a disc. It's gotta be a disc with just a bunch of... Here's how you do your Twitter, here's how you do your Facebook, here's what you want you to write. You're checking here at this web address and write this stuff on your Twitter account when we tell you to. I think internet... By the way, if anyone you want to become a fake lesbian, go for it. It really works. Let's say internet in a box. Let's see who owns... You know, I'll bet you internet in a suitcase is so lame, it's ridiculous if we actually got to the bottom of it. Let me see who owns internet in a box.

1:58:56 It's the guys who internet in a box came I think it was spyglass who ended up selling their browser to Microsoft and it became Explorer Funny yeah, there was trademarks. They couldn't use that not so funny douchebags okay, so Now there's there's two clips Lucifer and and Kathy the high priestess Kathy come and they're the same height by the way and And except Baroness Ashton of course has no political background. She's just rich. She's born into the right family. She's rich and she's one of those people who look and you know she can't help it but I have to mention it because screw her. It's like someone slammed on the brakes and she hit the dashboard and her chin just got sliced off.

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Catherine Ashton on Syrian Regime Change

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and EU High Representative Catherine Ashton held a joint press conference condemning the Syrian government's failure to protect embassies in Damascus. Clinton explicitly stated that President Bashar al-Assad is "not indispensable" and that the U.S. has "nothing invested" in his remaining in power. The hosts interpret this as a direct threat of regime change and speculate on potential backroom deals with Russia.

hillary clinton· catherine ashton· syria· bashar al-assad· damascus

1:59:50 She's one of those. By the way, before you go on, I do want to say that I'm going to send you a link to the Fast Company article which seems to be written, promoting the internet is being a great idea. Yeah, cool. I'll put it in the show notes. So now some of the media picked up one clip from Lucifer in this in this brief speech that she and Kathy held. But I think it warrants listening to a little bit more because they basically spell out everything that is taking place right now between the United States and the United States of Europe. And these two women are running the show, make no mistake. Oh my goodness! Hello everybody, good, oh my goodness.

2:00:37 It is, as always, a delight to welcome High Representative Ashton back to the State Department for the continuing consultations that we have been engaged in ever since her appointment. I always look forward to these meetings and working closely with her and her team on the full range of shared challenges that confront the United States and the European Union. I think it goes without saying that this is such a consequential partnership. It is rooted in our common values and aspirations as well as serving as a cornerstone for global peace and prosperity and security. Okay, so these women are going to bring us peace, security and prosperity. Today, once again, we covered a lot of ground. Let me just touch on a few of the issues.

2:01:32 First, Lady Ashton and I discussed events in Syria. The United States strongly condemns Syria's failure to protect diplomatic facilities in Damascus, including the American and French embassies and our ambassador's residence. Now, I don't know if you saw this. I saw a couple guys climb in a fence. Did you see anything more than that? No. It was like, oh, so this is a setup. They're attacking our embassies, angry mobs. I didn't even see anything from the Sham News Network. As we have expressed directly to the Syrian government today, we demand that they meet their international responsibilities immediately to protect all diplomats and the property of all countries.

2:02:20 The Assad regime will not succeed in deflecting the world's attention from the real story unfolding in Syria. This is not about America or France or any other country. When she says stuff like that, to me, I just replace the word instead of not about, this is about. I mean, isn't that like the basic? Why is she even saying that? Why is she even saying these things unless she wants you to think this is about America and France? Well, it does make you think that because you can't think a negative. Exactly. This is about the legitimate aspirations of the Syrian people for dignity, universal rights, and the rule of law. Despite promising dialogue and

2:03:03 promises of change, the Syrian government has responded to the people's peaceful protests with more violence, more arrests and more intimidation. Which by the way, every single news organization who shows amateur footage says we cannot verify the authenticity of this. So she's just propagating possibly, I think she is, but possibly lies. These assaults must stop. Neither the Syrian people nor the international community will accept half measures or lofty speeches. We call on the regime immediately to halt its campaign of violence, pull its security forces back from Hama and other cities, and allow the Syrian people to express their opinions freely so that a genuine transition to democracy can take place. So in other words, we need to kick your ass out, Ashaat,

2:03:58 And here's the threat, here it comes. Let me also add that if anyone, including President Assad, thinks that the United States is secretly hoping the regime will emerge from this turmoil to continue its brutality and repression, they are wrong. President Assad is not indispensable. He's not. We can replace you, bitch. Isn't that what she just said? Yep, yep, and then she says we the investment thing comes back here, and we have absolutely nothing invested in him remaining in power

2:04:39 Wow. Whoa. Yeah, that's the one that no one can avoid. That's weird. That's an interesting commentary because the investment is of course in the people who are been sent in there to go and rile everything up and then whoever's going to take over. We must have done a deal already with the Russians because they can't be putting up with this because they're this is their main port. Good point. Good point. So that said so that Somehow somewhere along the line the Russians have been bought off or that some deal was done with them Look, we're not you guys are you whatever you go give you more you got it this much, you know access you get more We just have to get this guy out of there because of some reason but you know, the question is what's the reason?

2:05:19 Well, I don't know. Switzerland has already frozen the assets. They stole some money, but it's not like it's like getting Gaddafi's money. Well, maybe, I mean, I don't know, maybe we do have a deal with the Russians. But the language she's using, it's like you're not indispensable. In other words, screw you. We can kill you any time we want. And we have nothing invested in you. Well, clearly, we've invested all our money in the Internet in the suitcase and we're coming to get you. So then, by the way, I love how she says As'had, which is of course is the elite way to pronounce asshat. As'had. So here comes Baroness Lady High Priestess of the United States of Gitmo Nation Europe.

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

South Sudan Independence and the EU Office in Benghazi

The hosts review Susan Rice's speech in Juba celebrating South Sudan's independence, mocking Catherine Ashton's claim of an "enormous cheer" from the crowd. The discussion shifts to Libya, where the EU has opened an office in Benghazi. The hosts argue that the conflict is effectively over because the rebels and their international backers have secured the oil, the central bank, and the eastern half of the country.

south sudan· juba· susan rice· libya· benghazi

2:06:03 And the first thing she does is a little joke. And I love it when she's joking. She jokes there with Hillary and here's the joke. So as you can see, we have, as we always do, a lot to talk about. And of all these critical challenges, it is especially gratifying that the United States and the European Union are working hand in hand. And so again let me thank the High Representative, my friend and colleague for her partnership and for the work that we will be doing in the future. And for introducing me to her wonderful hairdresser Pierre. The High Representative, it just sounds so royal. Thank you very much. It's a great pleasure as always to be back in Washington with Secretary Clinton

2:06:48 So the heat here is rather like Juba was on Saturday. Do you remember we were in Juba? The heat is... Do you know where Juba is? No. Juba is South Sudan. And let's listen to this. I just wanted to say to the American press as well that there was an enormous cheer. Enormous cheer! From the crowds in Juba when they heard of the support from the United States from Ambassador Rice spoke and it was a great moment. Okay so When I hear this, I just want to tell the press, press listen to me, I'm the high representative. There was an enormous cheer from the people of Juba when Hillary and I were... An enormous cheer. Well, jeez. I just happened to go find this clip of Ambassador Rice in Juba. And Juba by the way, they gotta fix their main media. This is for JNN, the Juba News Network.

2:07:44 It's over modulated but listen to the enormous cheer. Ladies and gentlemen, distinguished guests, excellencies, President Kiir of South Sudan. Congratulations! That's it. That was it? That's the enormous cheer. I'm gonna put cheering on my Obama clips in that. That's the enormous... I'm stupid. They go... That's the enormous cheer. Wait, there's a second enormous cheer. Listen. Who does she think she is, by the way, this Rice woman? Who is this, Rice? Yeah! Hello, slaves! It's like a hundred people in some royal enclosure. That's not the people of South Sudan. She even said that, hello, high distinguished people, royalty, everyone rich.

2:08:44 And they're like, yay, yay, here's another cheer. My fellow delegates, the United States government and the American people, we warmly welcome the Republic of South Sudan into the community of sovereign nations. That's the enormous, the enormous cheer that went up. Thank you Lady Baroness Ashton. Was Ashton there? Yeah and Clinton. So Ashton and Clinton were seated there while Susan Rice was sitting there, this idiotic, yelling at the masses speech? And it was so warm. It was so warm on Saturday in Juba. My hair was melting, I tell you. Don't you agree, Hillary?

2:09:38 Anyway, so I won't play the rest of that douchebaguette's clip, but she goes in and talks about how proud she is that the European Union flag is now flying in Benghazi because they've opened up the office. So the war is over. Essentially all the oil in Libya is in Benghazi. The central bank, the new one that the rebels started because, you know... Is that about Sudan? No, no, I'm back to Libya. Oh, okay. No, no, this is just to show that she's a douchebaguette. But then she goes on, it's so great that now we're in Libya. I mean Libya is over. The rebels are getting no guns, France has stopped dropping ammunition, everything is slowing down. Gaddafi of course is still fighting, but they're just keeping him at bay. And meanwhile the European Union has opened an office in Benghazi. Like we're open for business. We're doing business with... they've got everything.

2:10:28 Benghazi is where it's all at. Tripoli is on the west side. That's where it is gonna divide the country. Completely divided. It's done. It's over. It's done. They've got it. They have an office. They've got the oil. They've got the central bank. So the only thing Gaddafi can do is essentially just go away. You know? Well they've been trying to offer him deals, places he could stay, you know, a free dinner with a two-night stay. They have all these deals for him. Is that where the crab cakes? He's not taking any of them. It's just like wow. It's just, they're so brazen these people. I just want you to know there was an enormous cheer

2:11:11 I'm sorry that was not an enormous cheer. This is really and I think it's happening in this country this return to a monarchy. get a bunch of, stupefy the public, ruin the education system so you can't even afford to go to college let alone get a college education. Make everybody as dumb as you can and then run it as a monarchy, you know, because why not? Because we'd know better. And then I think everything is headed in that direction just because it's an old model that keeps, you know, stabilizes things to such an extent that people don't have to worry about losing their stuff.

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

CFL Light Bulb Health Risks and Government Mandates

A congressional rant highlights health concerns regarding mandated Compact Fluorescent Lamp (CFL) light bulbs, including mercury content and potential links to blindness and cancer. The speaker argues that the federal government is forcing hazardous products on consumers by removing the choice of traditional incandescent bulbs.

cfl bulbs· mercury· cancer· blindness· government mandate

2:11:51 You know, it's headed there. And all these people sound like monarchs. Hillary sounds like a monarch, Susan Rice sounds like a monarch. We know that, what's her name? Ashton. Lady Ashton is a monarch. Lady, Baroness, High Representative. What the hell is High Representative? Yeah, is a High Representative. I'm High Representative. I used to be a High Representative. That's an old monarchic type term. Yeah, and she's Baroness, and then she's Lady, then she's High Representative. How about Douchebagette? Well, I got a lesser clip. Yeah, right. Take us out on a downer. No, this isn't a downer. This is quite humorous. Okay, good. CFL rant. Oh, yes. No, I actually had this one but didn't bring it. A monopoly and that is what has occurred. Second, these new light bulbs, these CFL light bulbs are dangerous to our health. Dr. Burgess has already pointed out they contain mercury. I thought for years we were trying to get rid of the mercury.

2:12:49 in our environment. But they are in these light bulbs. Plus now, French scientists have discovered that these new CFL light bulbs may cause blindness in children. German scientists have found out, it's reported that these light bulbs may cause cancer. Now isn't that lovely? The federal government mandating something that is hazardous to our health because you have no choice. And the whole issue is about choice, Madam Speaker, that we can have let the consumer decide. What's wrong with letting the consumer decide? Because you need your cancer! It's good! Light bulb wars on your way. That's right! Take some lithium, boy! Calm down! And put some lithium in your water! Yeah, I know, that's crazy. It's crazy.

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

Clinton Foundation Haiti Reconstruction Failures

An investigation by *The Nation* reveals that the Clinton Foundation provided poor-quality, unsafe prefab trailers for use as schools and hurricane shelters in Haiti. The buildings are reportedly moldy, unventilated, and contain elevated levels of formaldehyde, causing children to suffer from headaches and vision problems. The hosts compare the situation to the FEMA trailer scandal following Hurricane Katrina.

clinton foundation· haiti· formaldehyde· hurricane shelters· the nation

2:13:34 The Clinton Foundation is under fire, as if I haven't brought them under fire enough, for the excellent work they've been doing in Haiti. And what work would that be? Well, I don't know, but I do remember this. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. So what did Presidents Clinton and Bush do with that cash? Well, here's a little tip. And now, a year and a half since the disastrous Haiti earthquake, there are serious questions about the quality of the reconstruction effort being raised by an American news weekly called The Nation. It says one of the biggest reconstruction agencies working in Haiti, the Clinton Foundation, has delivered poor quality, unsafe and inappropriate buildings in their efforts to help the population.

2:14:22 Lawrence Pollard spoke to Isabel MacDonald and Isabel Doucette, two reporters for the Nation periodical. They gave him more details about the faults they'd discovered. Clinton Foundation announced that they would urgently build hurricane shelters in time for the hurricane season last year. And they're sort of prefab wooden boxes elevated on cinder blocks with metal anchoring going into the ground. They're extremely hot. And they're not quite adapted to the landscape. Usually when you would have a trailer like this, it would have to be ventilated. There would have to be some kind of air conditioning. The air is extremely humid and dank, and so the walls are starting to mold as well. Every time it rains, rain gets in, seeps in. There's watermarks in many of the trailers, and several of them have visibly started to rot.

2:15:13 you know. Right, so they're wooden and they're not very ventilated, neither of which sound ideal. What's the experience of the youngsters who are going to school in this kind of combo hurricane shelter school affair? Well, as the school teachers said you know the kids are constantly falling asleep it's very hard for them to concentrate as the as the kids say their vision goes dark they get these extreme headaches regularly not just in the in the classroom where we found elevated levels of formaldehyde but across the board they're just very very hot there you go good job Katrina their old Katrina formaldehyde yeah laid in

2:15:53 Shelter they've shipped them. Yeah, they've taken them out because they can't use them in Louisiana They've picked them up and shipped them to Haiti. I'll bet you that that's going on. Of course Clinton got a deal He picked up some some of those Katrina shelters and this is part of so Hillary has suitcase in the box I mean the internet in a suitcase and Bill has Haitian in a suitcase. That's his that's his new moniker. I So, formaldehyde, the kids are falling asleep and they're going blind. Oh God. I mean, where is the... I am outraged that... Oh, meanwhile Dana Perino spending her time not talking about this and Fox News isn't mentioning it, are they? No, of course not. And meanwhile they're talking about how great the TSA is.

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly on Drug Decriminalization and Border Wars

Bill O'Reilly argued against drug decriminalization on Fox News, claiming it would lead to a massive increase in drugged driving fatalities. The hosts criticize O'Reilly for ignoring the success of decriminalization in countries like Portugal and suggest his stance is intended to maintain the status quo of profitable border wars.

bill o'reilly· drug decriminalization· narcotics· portugal· fox news

2:16:42 Unbelievable. Yeah. So kids have to put up with this on a daily basis. Yeah. This sort of coverage is ridiculous. I mean, in fact, I mean, I'd say 10 of the things we brought out today, nobody even bothers with. Well, the good news is you don't have to watch any of this crap. All you have to do is just tune into this program twice a week. You can even do one and you get enough information to depress you. We like a bill of five. You don't need to take a bill of five. You're already on an antidepressant. This will work even better. Take no agenda. May cause anal leakage. Let me do one little final thing. It'd be sense for bragging on Fox in this particular situation. This is the kind of stuff that we get from Fox. O'Reilly ranting about anyone even suggesting the idea of decriminalizing drugs. I'm sorry, because we'd rather keep the border wars going. I believe it's the forward movement that is healthy for society. I just said it's combs. I hope you or any of your loved ones or anybody you know is never killed in a car.

2:17:46 somebody who's high on narcotics. Well of course. Okay so that's the unintended consequence of that kind of thing. That can happen whether it's legal or not. It can, but it's amplified if it becomes legal by a thousand. In fact if you're legal you can throw it. Really? Tell that to the Portuguese. It doesn't become amplified by a thousand. I mean they just go and he goes out on that by the way because he has a commercial break. Of course we got no time. And nobody questions it. Nobody says this is bull crap. Yep. I mean these people should be, they're shameless, shameless, shameless. So just a quick trip around Gitmo Nation, a fractal wife cuts off husband's penis, puts it in garbage disposal, very nice. And of course, Amit Wali Karzai, the brother of the guy who wears the sheep, the calf fetus hat and cape,

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Assassination of Ahmed Wali Karzai in Afghanistan

Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a suspected major drug trafficker, was assassinated by his own bodyguard in Kandahar. The hosts speculate that the CIA orchestrated the killing because Karzai had become too powerful or outspoken. They note the symbolic message sent by having a trusted bodyguard perform the execution.

ahmed wali karzai· kandahar· cia· bodyguard· afghanistan

2:18:38 got killed by his bodyguard. Now this is very easy, we don't have to do much to deconstruct this. The guy got too big for his britches, the CIA killed him. It's obvious. I think everyone understands that, right? Yeah, I don't think it's even worth talking about. This, by the way, is not his older brother who runs the restaurants in San Francisco. No, this is the drug dealer. Yeah, this is the drug dealer and the younger brother who has The Toyota dealership and all that stuff so and and that's it. I mean we really don't yeah, that's it The guy is talking he was running the poppies. He got a big mouth and the CIA said oh, okay We'll just get rid of you. Just give you a little double tap there the question is of course who is going to replace him and

2:19:23 And by the way, it's always a good message to have the bodyguard kill you. Yeah, totally. Like just so you know, we can get to you anytime, anywhere, anyhow. And I think that is it, John. Sounds good. Yeah, I do. There's a long TSA clip, Q&A it's called, and it'll be in the show notes. I didn't even want to play it. It's very long, but it's part of the TSA hearings with Micah and others, mostly Micah, just ragging on these idiots. And I think people, if they have a chance, to go download it and listen. So what you want to do is go to 321.nashownotes.com

2:20:06 And you'll see show notes, you can see the credits there, and then you go into the show notes section, you'll actually see something called assets. And that is where all the clips that are played on the show, and more, by the way. And more are waiting for your perusal. And well, tomorrow we kick it off as we fly to Baroness Maggie Vincent's place. She owns all of Virginia now, of course. And the first broadcast from the Hot Pockets Mobile will be this coming Sunday. I hope you can join us. It should be fun. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's... eh, weather is meh. I'm John C. Dvorak. Weather is not climate. It's the new normal. We'll talk to you on Sunday everybody. Right here on NO Agenda.

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