Episode 283 · Thursday, 3 March 2011

Farsi Farce

Washington admits defeat in the global media war as the State Department deploys social media experts to counter Chinese influence and Libyan narratives.

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About this episode

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Senator John Kerry lead a push for intervention in Libya during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on the State Department’s fifty-seven billion dollar budget. Clinton explicitly frames the current geopolitical climate as an information war, admitting that the United States is losing influence to networks like Al Jazeera. The narrative surrounding Muammar Gaddafi is compared to the 1997 film Wag the Dog, suggesting that media reports of civilian massacres lack verifiable evidence and serve as a pretext for seizing energy resources.

President Obama signed Executive Order 13566 to freeze billions in Libyan assets held at Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase, while the Swiss government blocked accounts linked to the Gaddafi family. In the United Kingdom, the Vodafone network suffered a slave revolt sabotage, and German Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg resigned following a plagiarism scandal. Domestically, the EPA is moving to regulate farm dust and livestock movement under new particulate matter rules, and the Corn Refiners Association has launched a rebranding campaign to rename high fructose corn syrup as corn sugar to mislead consumers.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the peculiar stammering of Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton and the MKUltra theories surrounding Charlie Sheen’s public dispute with Chuck Lorre. The hosts analyze the pharmaceutical industry’s marketing of immune-suppressing drugs like Enbrel and the suspicious timing of Baxter International’s new vaccine approvals. New Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable are dubbed as the show transitions to the Gitmo News Network model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 283 Introduction and Programming Notes

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 283 from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry describes his late-night work on the No Agenda News Network and the technical challenges of coding the new platform. The hosts confirm the recording date as Thursday, March 3, 2011.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda news network· silicon valley· programming

00:00 Apparently they brought some hot Ukrainians with them. Watching C-SPAN instead of Charlie Sheen's tweets here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gimel Nation West, Peoples Republic of Southern California in the morning. I am The Lone Wolf known as Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm watching Charlie Sheen's tweets rather than C-SPAN, I'm John C. Dvorak. in the morning to john in the morning doing in the morning to all ships at sea yes i'm not going to do on today of your head untied you know uh... i went we want a better ten and i was working all day yesterday literally from um... from early in the morning to the minute we went about my shouldn't have done that because i was working on the no agenda news network some like as this perfect it is exactly the look with some pearls

01:07 and uh... some um... you know work on programming stuff and then i come in bed and i fall asleep at it like two o'clock a was like really warm i woke up i could not get back to bet me unlike got out one back to bed you know laid there using your like an hour-and-a-half like doodoo doom doo doom doom doom doom and the scenes is army are totally exit just too much i'd just see lines of code running in my head and and i'm already a great programmer Yeah, kind of pathetic. You know what I'm saying? So like I just saw in my little opening spiel I had Sunday March 3rd that's just how awesome i am today anyway hope people appreciate the work we're putting into it because today is Thursday yeah yeah I know right I said it properly

01:53 But it's gonna be... Yeah, you only made one mistake ever I think in the opening. That we actually left in the recording? We've done that all the time! What are you talking about?! So... Hey how about that Libya huh!? You know I'm getting sick of this Libya story. We do have some Libya wrap-ups to do on this show, and also I want to tell you this in advance but I will warn you. I have three Charlie Sheen characters No! I mean it's...I can handle the Bieber

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Wag the Dog Movie Comparison to Libya Media Coverage

The 1997 film Wag the Dog is identified as a blueprint for current media narratives regarding the conflict in Libya. Similarities include the use of "B-roll" footage, suitcase nuke memes, and manufactured crises to justify military intervention. The transition from 1990s technology like Palm Pilots to modern tools like Twitter and Facebook is noted as the primary evolution in disseminating disinformation.

wag the dog· libya· cnn· robert de niro· dustin hoffman

02:28 I mean, I do want to talk about Charlie Sheen but you have actual clips? That's rough. I'll tell you why because i got one clip that proves he is insane because he's on Piers Morgan and says Piers Morgan is great! Well, I'm sorry...that's not winning right there So we got that clip and then a clip of kind-of medley which is a... We'll get to it later. We can't do real noise at the beginning of the show. I have somebody talking about bipolar and some elements of it. So, um, educational. Yeah so there's a tonne of news about Libya and here's what I did after our previous show thank you everybody for emailing me links to Wag The Dog which by the way John that movie is from 1997

03:13 Yeah, I know it's a great one of the all-time great films. It so what is that 24 years old? Yeah, am i saying that correctly no 14 no just 13 14 13 14 years old 14 and And um so you know people said oh, it's on Netflix not on streaming But you can order it but it's also an iTunes You can rent it on iTunes which then you download it for an hour and then you rent it for 24 hours stupid anyway So we watch it in bed and I had forgotten about How much is really in there? I mean we're talking suitcase nukes, sleeper cells. The whole thing is in there Every meme known to man And every single one that I've been watching literally on CNN since the last show This is so obvious

03:57 except in nineteen ninety seven uh... they didn't have i phones and robert de niro who plays kind of the fix it guy who makes everything happen for the president and kills people if necessary he has a palm pilot that's his level of technology that sold the movie is and everyone has did this start at karen motorola phones right as cellphones but it just was not lost on me that this is exactly the same thing except now we have of course twitter and facebook and to help in the dissemination of disinformation particularly towards people here in america who are buying this crap and were fully going to support a military invasion of libya. It's painfully obvious, and Herr Hillary

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and John Kerry Senate Foreign Relations Hearing

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by John Kerry, to discuss the State Department's $57 billion budget. Kerry's opening remarks set a tone for intervention in Libya, emphasizing that Muammar Gaddafi has lost legitimacy. The discussion highlights the lack of verifiable video evidence for reported "slaughter of innocents" and suggests the narrative is part of an information war.

hillary clinton· john kerry· senate foreign relations committee· libya· state department

04:48 was in front of the, what is it? The foreign relations committee. In a two and half hour... It's supposed to be like a question and answer session I couldn't watch it! I watched the whole thing Thank God someone did Yeah, I watched the whole thing Actually Are there any nuggets in there? Yeah, yeah There are some nuggets I would assume they would be So But of course the whole thing is set up because you've got John Kerry who's the chair And he does like 10 minutes opening speech. I'm not going to play all ten of it, but right in the beginning he just sets the tone and it's all complimentary up until you know like the last 15 minutes and then let some unimportant person ask a question or something there was just grandstanding so what's real...the whole thing is supposed to be about the budget

05:39 and uh... hillary clinton's department of state needs fifty seven billion dollars which is a cutback i might add fifty-seven billion dollars before as she says herself um... and that's actually one of these clips the uh... the number of employees in the state department would not that would not even fill up a u.s aircraft carrier so it's like only a couple thousand people but still they managed to spend fifty seven billion dollars and of course its by giving money to foreign dictators who then turn around and you know, do weird stuff to us. You know it's funny we have all these anti-bribery laws that you can't do this, you can't give foreign people money if your corporate president or a corporate salesman or anything like that and then people get thrown in the jail for that yet our whole MO as a government is essentially bribe

06:35 dictators dictator yeah it's a i don't know what else you'd call it isn't it i mean they end up with the money in their pockets is not a bribe but yeah well uh... of course it is all under the guise of well as for humanity thank you donna is for humanitarian aid or whatever uh... and by the way a turns out that he u has sold them but britain in particular sold the most weapons to libya like this with a hundred thousand small handguns and all kinds of stuff like that anyway so here's a here's uh... carry opening up and it's just uh... hillary buyer self-made in the in the the horseshoe semicircle there and he kind of sets the tone right off the bat. Good morning, this hearing will come to order Madam Secretary it's wonderful to welcome you here today know your freshly back from a quick trip

07:28 and uh... we appreciate enormously all of your efforts on our behalf a stroke stroke get to it i can't think of any more relevant moment in many ways for you appear before the committee so we're happy to have you here let me just say up front that uh... we have joined with her allies and we've heard loudly and clearly from you madam secretary their colonel qaddafi musco gotta go he has lost all legitimacy I think it's important to be clear that we can't be halfway about that goal. The people of Libya are not asking for foreign troops on the ground,

08:12 they are committed to doing what is necessary. However, but they do need the tools to... Tools! There it is! It's one minute into it we've already got tools coming John Open up the tool shed. ...the slaughter of innocents on Libyan streets Slaughter of innocents And I believe that the global community cannot be on the sidelines while airplanes are allowed bomb and strafe So uh..I was watching these airplanes bombing and strafing and it makes no sense to play the clips from CNN because literally, well we were here with our camera crew and then a Libyan fighter came over to drop bombs on this whole city. And there's like three huts in the distance I'm like okay that's not a city

08:56 and then they came back again and said, well where's the video? Where is the video of this. They don't have any video. They show a hole in the ground which is an edit I can see Dustin Hoffman directing this It's all B-roll Totally! And then they show like a couple guys with some smoke out of some huts and they show an explosion in a complete empty desert yet will the libyan bombers the fighter pilots sock because they can't aim apparently to shoot into sand like it all right so there's no video of this that is no video of dead people who were just slaughtered innocence by the thousands uh... but there's plenty of video assisted at the never does cut away i was watching one of their bed

09:39 News networks covering this and they said oh here. We are in a hospital, and they showed two guys that were mangled Yeah exactly That's the same video that I've seen rest of me to make it sound like there's hundreds and hundreds Of them And there's these two guys and they kept showing then they breed Then they kind of looped it now III heard on NPR those National Treasure well we have the exact count 417 I was waiting for a magic number there. If there's 417 dead, there has got to be thousands of people injured. There have got to be thousands of people that could be limping around bleeding. And it may be but they're not showing it yet everybody is there! All the news networks everyone has their little stand up position we've got the guy from BBC News tonight, we've got Christiana Ampour... Everyone is in

10:27 full free access yet they we don't have any video of these uh... all these people who are it's a total information war now uh... just one more second of carrying them again to claim because she said some really interesting things and no-fly zone is not the long term proposition assuming the outcome as what all desire and i believe we ought to be ready to implement it as necessary yeah so he's saying is not all we desire but if we need to implement he said will go in a kick ass that were going to go takeover and we're gonna help all of our uh... oil elites get exactly what they want so um... then clinton yes she is she has the kind of cover up this whole libya thing which would get back to you in a second and see that she's saying well you know we need to uh...

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

State Department Budget and Global Security Contingency Fund

Hillary Clinton proposes tearing down bureaucratic walls between the State Department and the Department of Defense to share budgets. This includes the creation of a "Global Security Contingency Fund," which is characterized as a potential slush fund for international intervention. The segment also touches on ongoing issues in Somalia and the continued rebuilding efforts in Haiti.

state department· department of defense· global security contingency fund· haiti· somalia

11:18 get more money, how are we going to do that? Well I'm so genius. I'm so genius! I am going to tear down the walls between the Secretary of Defense and the State Department So we can share our budgets and it's like yeah I was unbelievable like what she's not gonna have access to defense budget and what you can do with this money all fantastic things John second even as our civilians help bring today's wars to a close by the way is all about are civilians that this is her okay see in a bit dark

11:54 uh... her staff is the civilians and the civilians are doing all the work civilians working to prevent tomorrow's this budget devotes over four billion dollars in sustaining a strong u s presence little places where our security interests are at stake okay Hold on, yeah there's a little... Development and humanitarian assistance in the midst of the headquarters for Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula. That was funny! What? Yeah she said it because she is reading everything. She says it's in the midst of the headquarters of al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula and it's an insult you wish he corrects but it's because she looks down she realizes where i didn't say that right did i peninsula doesn't sound right uh... what was in the bulls on that's bumper sticker again now al-qaeda on the reagan peninsula peninsula now let's not run into a lot of open until about this is on those same goals in somalia

12:50 it has helped the northern and southern sydney's chart a peaceful future and we need to stay on that as right will say right now that we got george cluney i in the sky this is all coming down to cleanly land the guys been imposition he's been waiting for this to happen we've got egypt we've got libya with some ideas yet let me have a good aside on this i'm get more than a little amused about the somalian situation because they you know they first of all the pirates at their own pirates are back the pirates captured those two uh... yes jim evangelist and killed them yes and then but nobody says anything the public goes out of my head there's a guys are on a yacht i mean give me a break it so now they've been captured finally for the first time in captured a bunch of kids yeah yet how do you get american public worked up in american public does well you know this should have been there yeah so that's like we're not they're not getting any somalia action by the americans

13:43 It's gotta be driving them crazy. What are we gonna do next? What do we have to do get Somalian action going on? We have a boat full of babies and puppies! Maybe we'll have to have Clooney go on a weekend excursion or something. It helps Haiti rebuild. That's my favorite! It helps Haiti rebuild what your hotel Hillary? Please and it proposes a new global security contingency fund oh that sounds like a slush global contingency security fund that would pull resources and expertise with the defense department we are trying to tear down the wall in the bureaucratic jurisdictional obstacles that too often prevent united states government from being as efficient as it can be by bringing all of our government assets together that was a little reagan s thing there who teared down that wall mister garbage off i need some of that money on the other side

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Hillary Clinton on the Information War and Al Jazeera

Hillary Clinton explicitly states that the United States is engaged in an "information war" and is currently losing to networks like Al Jazeera. She criticizes American private media for "cultural programming" that she claims works at counter-purposes to American values. Clinton references the Cold War era as a time when the U.S. was more successful at messaging.

hillary clinton· al jazeera· broadcasting board of governors· information war· cold war

14:44 So, okay. And this is the one that got some ink on the interwebs For those of you who think Al Jazeera is awesome and it's great news and that its not funded and driven by British intelligence You should think this when Hillary Clinton says they're doing a great job the you know that there's something very very wrong things up now listen to this because of course they only got the first part of the story uh... even though people in the conspiratorial circles didn't really listened to the whole thing because of course people are lazy and i sat down watch all this crap time hopefully we can bring is good news about more aggressive policies hoping with the bbg and others

15:36 Well Senator, I want to thank you for the report that you did on the Broadcasting Board of Governors and all of the problems that it uh... has experienced you know that was a person is this it does not agree with you alter i think senator an excellent choice the board is a very vindictive and your character to our republicans in democrats they understand we we are engaged in information war right now dot dot dot this is very important information or okay You know, during the Cold War we did a great job in getting America's message out. We did a great job of scaring Americans well it turns out that there was nothing going on Russia had nothing but gray buses with curtains and tubes coming out of it Great job! you didn't...you scared the American people but okay After the Berlin Wall fell we said okay fine enough for that you know we've done it were done

16:31 uh... and unfortunately it that's the way i recall it yeah well enough of that you see here there we have not had a she's get so cavalier in her communication that you start to trip up listen you'll hear me are paying a big price for it and our our private media cannot fill that gap inside wall alia now how is that work they can't build that gap you know why because the sock Now listen. Our private media, particularly cultural programming often works at counter purposes to what we truly are as Americans and what our values are I remember having an Afghan general... Yeah i know this is great stuff she's so cavalier she's like I don't know what does she want her own radio network?

17:20 I don't know. She does actually. Back it up a little bit, i want to hear this, I want to take this in Yeah no it gets better John It gets better. And our private media cannot fill that gap In fact our private media particularly cultural programming often works at counter purposes To what we truly are as Americans and what our values are Now how do you read that Obi-Wan Kenobi? Well, that's a good question. Well for one thing it's obviously that the cultural aspects that are being transmitted mostly through the I'd say... What's wrong? The Kardashians is great! what's her problem?! Oh that's what you know uh.. You know she must be talking about She mu- oh no that can't be right. You don't even have to say Let me take in the whole thing before i kind of see what... No yeah you gotta hear everything otherwise y-you'll be astounded at what your about to hear Remember having an Afghan general tell me

18:16 uh... the only thing he thought about americans is that all the men wrestled in the women walked around a bikini speak as the only tv ever saw was baywatch and worldwide wrestling so this is in the nineteen eighties hillary if you're gonna talk crap usually say although they all think the chicks look like i'd like to kardashians and they'll pull each other's hair out like on uh... real housewives and uh... the dudes are all jack bauer was a reference is the jerry springer and uh... yeah and skin okay we we are in information war and we are losing that war i'll be very blunt in my assessment aljazeera is winning as charlie sheen is waiting where did you get to know who had deep trouble aljazeera's winning what they're winning the information war

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

State Department Techno Experts and Social Media Propaganda

The State Department has deployed a team of "techno experts" to engage on websites and social media platforms using Arabic and Farsi Twitter feeds. These efforts are described as a modern "Ministry of Truth" designed to spread pro-U.S. narratives and disinformation. Reference is made to HB Gary and the use of multiple-personality account software to manage online personas.

state department· twitter· farsi· arabic· hb gary

19:07 Now there's a little, I have to say C-SPAN's video because i didn't watch it live. C-SPAN's video player sucks balls and they will just stop for no reason so there is a little stop in here of about a second or two but we don't have time to edit out so ignore that but what she saying is vitally important as to what the State Department is doing to pollute the news stream The Chinese have opened up a global English language and multi-language television network. The Russians have opened up an English language network, I've seen it in a few countries. Yeah we watch it on the internet all the time Hillary...I've actually seen it! She's talking about RT? Yes what else is she talking about?!

19:55 That's what must be what she was talking about, but everybody said where has he been? This is typical. This is like when... What his name was the guy with the Secretary of Defense during you know I can't remember. Come on! I keep seeing his name and seeing his face. Ted Who? Ted! I'm just making it up. Ted, when Ted was Rumsfeld... was saying that he never heard of building seven. Right! These people don't get out or they're just MKUltra'd or they're just lying is that possible? Did that ever... Is that one your options? I honestly don't believe because it's too much of a weird lie and if you gonna lie, you'll about stuff like oh we found yellows... Alright now skip all that so if you are you want to be winning in the information war what would you do

20:52 Well, it seems to me you'd put on a English station... No! I'll be hipper than that John. HIPPER Music? No. Nudity? I have no idea! Interwebs, man you gotta get some kids on the interwebs! No... what?! Yeah listen and it's quite instructive we are cutting back the BBC is cutting back so here's what we are trying to do in this state department we have pushed very hard on new media New media! That's it. That's what we do. New me- no, but we're not doing what Hillary is doing She has a whole army. Listen... Here is that little break I'm sorry

21:36 So we have an Arabic Twitter feed, we have a Farsi Twitter feed. I have this group of young techno experts who are out there engaging on websites and putting all our... You talked over it! Listen to what the techno kids are doing. I have this group of young techno experts and she's waving her hands like two hands in the air going like, Techno experts! The left-and right push? Like she's pushing imaginary pedals of her techno gadgetry or something. I don't know, techno experts. Techno experts who are out there. Maybe she means techno music

22:14 Maybe she thinks it's like that hip beat music, you know the drum and bass. So we have an Arabic Twitter feed We do an Arabic Twitter feed. I have a Farsi twitter feed i have this group of young You know techno experts who are out there engaging on websites And we're putting all of our young arabic speaking diplomats out so that they are talking about our values Now what that means is she's got a little army of techno experts They're sitting out there, and they're tweeting disinformation Yeah, they've probably got a good paid. They've got that HB Gary You know multiple personality account software right that what's the name of company the guy the CEO just resigned Mm-hmm so they've got all that stuff Let me just get you the name of it. It said yeah HP Gary

23:06 So they're managing 10, 20 maybe 50 profiles at a time and they're just doing stuff in Arabic because they speak Arabic. They speak Farsi. They Twitter it. They got a Twitter feed and they just talk, this is it. This is where all the news is coming from its coming directly from the state department. Walter is working hard with his board to try to you know transform uh... the broadcasting um efforts because most people still get their news from TV and radio so even though in what century Hillary please we're pushing online we can't forget tv and radio and so i'd look i would look at very much toward your cooperation to try to figure out how we get back in the game on this because i hate seating what we are most expert into anybody else that's right well you know i did it yet most expert in what sending out bull crap is that what she said i think that's exactly the message

24:05 We're the experts at bullcrap and I'm not gonna let anybody else out of bull crap. When it comes to bull crapping and hustling, as the president said we hustle better than anybody else so techno experts be very wary of techno expert...I think you need a T-shirt. I'm a techno expert So what is this all about? They're creating another ministry of truth, absolutely. Which is going to send out a bunch of bullcrap tweets and Facebook pages... This is what NPR is picking up like oh something's happening here! Oh CNN! All of them! The Twitter feed is rapping! It's Arabic letters must be important! We found one now that you mention it we got one called Libyan News

24:51 Somebody sent us some links to like going on and I go look at them at the Twitter feed It's called Libyan news today or something like that. I'd have to go look at it Yeah, and it's got like eight followers That obviously was just put up the other day and is making all kinds of claims about one thing or another It's obviously bullcrap But I never thought it was from our own State Department as that was just some other propaganda it is from the State Department And she just said it Yeah. Because I'm sure it's not identified as hi, i'm Bob from the State Department and from the techno expert team is that have you seen that Twitter profile anywhere? No no of course not. That what I'd use yeah I love to have those credentials. I am a techno expert and I'm tweeting for you

25:36 all right so what is this all about here's where she gets cavalier and just lays it on the line and uh... and this of course is truly what is happening in libya because uh... at before you go there are usually be just before we forget some other things she said i want to mention that it is the programming she's complaining about the kardashians the big breasts on baywatch and then they watch is not anymore time they still shavari runs overseas and so the point is that those things are what art do benefit us yeah that's a lot of people opting to put them in exactly these governments that are like all the other guy where avail you got to do this you know you don't

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

U.S. Competition with China and Realpolitik in Libya

Hillary Clinton admits that the U.S. is in a direct competition for influence with China, citing energy finds in Papua New Guinea and ExxonMobil's interests. The conflict in Libya is framed through the lens of "Realpolitik," suggesting that the intervention is less about humanitarian concerns and more about countering Chinese economic expansion and oil interests in the region.

china· libya· realpolitik· exxonmobil· papua new guinea

26:17 it's they need to send Kim Kardashian over war over in like three seconds I think yeah but then all wrong why don't they have us running the show by the way it is a little show alright so now she gets all loose and she's talking and because now she's off script. And she just lays it out you know remember They evacuated 30,000 Chinese because everyone's going in and getting their people out. Right? We've got thirty thousand chinese they got a big refinery in uh... in libya evacuated them we get the brits out to get some americans out but it's rich really is the chinese but what what is really the problem what was really going on why are we doing all this wire our tax dollars going to kill brown people and deserts everywhere well it's painfully obvious madame secretary we had a small amount of

27:14 twenty one million dollars that we were going to spread across many of these island countries uh... obviously that would not be possible and we are in a competition for influence with china i'll speak let's let's but put aside the moral humanitarian do-good side of what we have believe and let us put all aside put aside all the morals in other words that's the cover story that's the cover story It's all about being in competition with China. Oh really Hillary, do tell! Let's just talk straight Realpolitik. We are in a... Oh, Realpolitik! Ah she is French. Sacrebleu, Hilary! Realpolitik with the techno experts! Competition with China Take Papua New Guinea Huge energy find to go to one of Senator Lugar's very strong points ExxonMobil is producing it

28:06 China is in there every day, in every way trying to figure out how it's going to come in behind us. They're supporting the dictatorial regime that unfortunately is now in charge of Fiji. Yeah right and of course we support our own dictatorial regimes like Libya So we brought this up initially when we discussed Libya the first time, which is that the Chinese have something to do with this. And we pointed out the fact that Libya started doing deals with the Chinese so we had to go in there with our economic hitmen and take care of business. The one storyline I forgot to bring up over and over

28:42 show after show is the fact that during the fracas taking place in Libya there was a Chinese oil refinery that was built and attacked kind of in the background nobody covered this story. No one cares it's Chinese we're in competition with them Some newsletters covered but why are they attacking and you know trying to blow up the chinese refinery has got nothing to do with overturning the government. Right because the Libyans aren't doing, the jackals are in from the economic hitmen and they're the ones doing it Yeah, they're the ones that are... when Gaddafi says it's Al Qaeda he is not lying. It is CIA based Al-Qaeda from the Arabian Peninsula

29:19 and that's the insult to the pitted at the arabian peninsula and uh... ended up into just blowing stuff up this is it's like classic the all did but this is john you've been around is this not the classic way if we've already given the confessions of economic hitman this is a classic no it's a total classic is beautiful actually and fun to watch And at the same time... It's a good show, it's not bad. Noah is really good! We can actually put on the credits no actual humans were harmed during this during the filming of this show and uh... it in the end of fallout is quite interesting as we're starting to win this finish a weird doing about dimensions are going on because you know apparently the sons of all left town in the g five course well here we go they'd have brought all of the leaders at least small pacific nations to beijing wine them and i'm not what we don't do that whenever had anyone who does that we wouldn't mind dot anyone would read that would be wrong

30:17 I mean, if anybody thinks that our retreating on these issues is somehow going to... Notice the military term. Retreating? Be irrelevant to the maintenance of our leadership in a world where we are competing with China, where we are competing with Iran Oh really?! That's why were so angry and aggressive towards them because we're competing with them! John, did you know that we're competing with Iran? Actually I did. And so did i but that's not the way it is brought to the stupid human resources in the United States of Gitmo that is a mistaken notion so i would strongly support this on humanitarian moral values based grounds and we do the right thing we get credit for it credit out extra credit going kill somebody i'd also look at this from a strategic perspective and it is essential okay so that i got one last clip because of course with all in all the stops up

31:13 We've even got the who said the quote Charlie Sheen or Gaddafi, you know we've got everything. It's a perfect setup. You know Charlie Sheen God bless the man he is being pulled into this and being misused but we have to hedge all of our bets Because you know we do have to get this guy out because we've got, you know. We can't let this crisis go to waste Everything is rocking and rolling. We're blowing up the Chinese cause were in competition with them. Were getting those guys out The Chinese went like, oh no ah! And they went shiz, get out he's gotta town So they hightailed it out so now how do we

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Lockerbie Bombing and Potential Prosecution of Muammar Gaddafi

U.S. officials are exploring the prosecution of Muammar Gaddafi for the 1988 Lockerbie bombing following claims by the former Libyan Justice Minister. Hillary Clinton discusses the potential extradition of Al-Megrahi and her personal connection to the victims as a former Senator for New York. The timing of these renewed allegations is viewed as a strategic move to justify regime change.

lockerbie bombing· pan am 103· muammar gaddafi· al-megrahi· syracuse university

31:49 go into the final acts of removing uh... qaddafi well very easily for a graduate you for your statement yesterday at the united states is considering seeking the prosecution of omar qaddafi for the nineteen eighty eight yeah i have a lot of deals me this is great allies as well while this is not what's breaking that spring back I mean this is unbelievable to me how well they did this. Oh, well it was poor actually. It's in poor taste! Yeah it's in poor taste they bring it out of the blue Matt Lauer has got some families from the Lockerbie bombing on his show and the whole thing is just like staged to an extreme

32:27 So let's listen to our representatives of our nation, how they're setting this up. That killed 189 Americans including 33 of my fellow New Jerseyans uh... and that comes on the heels of the reports by the ex-justice minister of libya but could not be personally ordered the attack yes it this was the disinformation they threw out there because of course we know that this was a c i a drug smuggling operation we know so much about lockerbie but so long ago you know it's like we don't even care about nine eleven anymore you know so they are locked in the aid of the libya now whatever now she's still arrogant she says something unbelievable here

33:08 And so I hope you'll give us, as this moves along a sense of how we're going to verify this information. I hope we get access to the Justice Minister soon Yeah, we gotta get access to him. Because when he says it's true... well let's go get him! I mean you know that right? The guy is going to stand there with his hand on the Quran and another hand on the Bible and is gonna say yeah dude I saw Gaddafi He picked up the phone And he said bring it down make it happen bring it down I need to be winning Uh.. and what time frame we might expect a decision whether we will seek to prosecute Gaddafi for that heinous crime

33:45 And also I want to urge you to consider, that I and other of my colleagues on this committee issued a report on the release of the convicted Pan Am 103 bomber Al-Megrahi. which was released we believe from a Scottish person on false pretenses. Yeah let's not forget that little issue where BP needed to do it a little deal there with Libya and so they gave this guy back, and we know it was about the oil! They gave the guy back under false pretenses, the guys still around he only had like weeks to live... And they're like hey I'm free I'm out you know? It was a CIA hit job

34:24 uh... i want to urge you to consider requesting of any potential new libyan government that may come out as a result of what is going on in libya and we see one of those guys with the hats and capes like in afghanistan which is one of those guys at the time government did but always looks good little premature to say that but i wanna put it on your radar screen hope that if there is a new libya government uh... when we engage with that on a second so in the chat room says i missed the code was this thirty thirty three fellow new jersey and so is it thirty-three than miss that apparently there was a number of those thirty six yeah maybe i'd died anyway certainly was they wouldn't surprise me government that we will consider asking for the extradition about mcgraw he to finish serving his sentence instead of sitting in the lap of luxury

35:15 Now listen to what she says. Well first senator thank you for your... Wait a minute lap of luxury? Yeah, the guy's living in a hotel. Okay yeah uh continuing focus on this terrible crime um I represented New York and of course many... What did you hear what she's saying does she represent New York during the Pan Am bombing No! Of course not. The Pan Am bombing? She was in Arkansas Yeah, exactly Listen to it again This woman is so arrogant For your continuing focus on this terrorist attack... Of course he said you know my fellow New Jersey You gotta like bring it home You gotta bring it home To the people on the streets Terrible crime I represented New York and of course... I represented New York What?! Many of the victims were from Syracuse University I represented New York

36:08 It's what she's trying to get away with it like of course I represented New York and many of them were from Syracuse, New whatever Horrible horrible woman check that John see if she was a set. I don't think she was a senator then no No, we know he was in college. It wasn't 1988 right well who when with clinton was even president yet but she was senator of new york is that now he was the governor of of our condition and she was sent to her from new york she wasn't say yeah right had techno experts she was like that they'll hold you as i do have the first lady of arkansas in nineteen eighty eight and she wasn't even prior invented she's an arrogant evil woman thank u many times with family members uh... and it is just a heartbreaking

36:57 experience. Yeah, like you care! Like the hit list of body count around the Clinton 70 people are dead all two shots to the head gun in the left hand oops killed myself and justice must be served so what we are doing is reaching out based on these recent reports uh... to the fbi and the justice department which have the jurisdiction over any uh... continuing prosecution hot to ask that they immediately i tried too uh... take whatever actions are possible um... i was given a uh... a letter yesterday by two of the family members on in in the house hearing which outlines a number of ways that uh... we could proceed and i have sent that over to our justice and the fbi

37:44 I don't think it's only Gaddafi. I think that there are others as well who were involved in some way and like you, I would like the families to have whatever information they can finally get and then whatever legal action we can take So this is...the whole...I just sat with my mouth open and uh... if you if you in the show notes a link in the shown as of course no jenna showed up commoner actually know it's an a new system uh... if you see the opening statement by kerry he covers everything in the first ten minutes and as like when we're gonna get this guy for that you were here with the no-fly zone she had nice idea but we are we have to go and get out kick ass where america you know and its and his end let's not forget her husband bill clinton pardoned mark rich

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Mark Rich, Glencore, and the World Court

The pardon of Mark Rich by Bill Clinton is linked to the rise of Glencore, a massive commodities company set to go public on the London Stock Exchange. The segment also discusses the U.S. government's selective use of the World Court, noting that while they want Gaddafi prosecuted, they refuse to recognize the court's jurisdiction over American officials like Donald Rumsfeld or George W. Bush.

mark rich· glencore· bill clinton· world court· war crimes

38:33 who is the founder and one of the richest men in the world for dealing in oil illegally when they had our hostages with Iran. And let him go, he got pardoned that's you know Clinton's only pardon when he left office Mark Rich went to Zuc Switzerland. He had a bunch of them but that was his worst Okay, he went to Zuck Switzerland and he started Glencore which is about to go public. Everything is coming together at the perfect storm they're all going to get so wealthy So incredibly rich and you have to look what Glencore does and what they own They are...the article I sent you the other day John The biggest company you've never heard of Completely under the radar They're about to go public on the London Stock Exchange As oil is ticking up it's not gonna go down until uh..the IPO

39:23 It's a beautiful setup and she is in the game. They've got stock, you know they have stock! They're in on it How could you not be? You are an idiot if you don't Yeah So... I need like a antacid, I'm disgusted by this woman Here's the thing that kind of interesting that isn't being played up very much which is the she and most of the people who are saying well we gotta do something we got to take some legal action against Gaddafi because we discovered this new information because these guys admitted that he heard Gaddafi give the order all the rest of it. Is they keep pushing this on the world court?

40:03 have you noticed this? No I haven't heard this yet. Yeah they want to do that the world court take care of him and arrest the guy with the Kosovo guy but meanwhile i thought we were like, we think the world court sucks because if we let the world court do anything or give them some sort of... no we don't recognize it! We don't recognize it because.. If we give it credence that means guys like Ted Rumsfeld and the rest of these guys are gonna get arrested if they go to Europe. I mean Bush, you know it's very fearful about Charlie Bush he is going to jail if we recognize him as for war crimes guy can't even travel other countries because they'll arrest them yeah the only good news for him is that he doesn't like to travel anyway so and Rumsfeld does Rumsfeld likes to get around Ted likes to rock-and-roll

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

British Lynx Helicopter Incident and False Flag Claims

A report regarding a British Lynx helicopter crew being detained in Libya is scrutinized. Based on technical knowledge of helicopter operations, the claim that only two crew members were involved is challenged as being inconsistent with standard mission protocols. The incident is characterized as a potential false flag to draw NATO further into the conflict.

lynx helicopter· royal navy· libya· false flag· nato

40:47 anyway so that this whole thing and and it's states it's it really does and its end it's so obvious to anyone who has their eyes open what is going on in and false flag in get my nation lowlands but I have to identify so um... apparently a links helicopter crew went in and the they took off from uh... her royal majesty ship trump now i would have been on this chip So it's parked right offshore there. It's floating around this is a frigate And it has a goal catcher on it. I got a tour of this thing, I was on this actual ship and they've got one helicopter on it but its got a goal catcher which is like those things that are like five fifty rockets and it goes whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop

41:47 And so they let the Lynx go up to go and rescue two guys. So the reports are, well you know... The 2 people are safe in the embassy but they've got 2 of the crew members and I'm getting reports from... Because of course I know these guys! I know the helicopter pilots, I know the people on this ship. I am getting all kinds of reports saying that this is bull crap it's not true because we at least have a team of 5 on the chopper We've got 2 people to assist You know, we've got one medic. I mean these are set missions when you go and rescue someone behind lines They're lying! This is... it's not true what the number of people just doesn't make sense You don't operate these missions with only two crew So it's a false flag And I think that probably were going to have come to the aid this will be one, I don't think its'a real good one But ya know, oh well our NATO partners they're being harassed there We gotta go in kick some ass

42:47 and get some kicks in the ass! So, uh... yeah. Just my blood pressure I had this makes me so angry just because it's so painfully obvious what is being done here Yeah but you know- Yeah i know now on the other hand its just a bunch of brown people and some sand I know, why do i worry? I got the Kardashians. Oh they're still watching Baywatch losers. We got the Charlie Sheen losers. How can you have so many fucking losers? We got Charlie Sheen and we've got Kardashians You're still watching Baywatch and wrestling when it was WWF. You bunch of losers! You deserve it

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Birthday Donations

Don Bean and John Dunn are credited as the Executive Producer and Associate Executive Producer for the episode. A birthday shout-out is given to Brandon Bean, who turned 28. John Dunn is noted for sending a physical check for $250 to avoid PayPal fees, supporting the show's value-for-value model.

don bean· john dunn· 283 club· paypal· value-for-value

43:27 So, um... Let's thank some people. We didn't get much of a response from the last show so I have to assume we didn't do the show well enough because we only have a few donors and we only have one executive producer and one associate executive producer might as well name them off. Executive producer AND member of The 283 Club uh... is don being of the government he's come back uh... it's back for more andy's back with a birthday coming up to get in the morning at one h ten joined exclusive two eight three club which is an exclusive member in the name of my son brandon on his twenty eighth birthday friday march fourth will be driving out through the one oh one two san francisco on that day listening to no agenda episode this when particular

44:12 so be cool to hear the slaves give a birthday shout out to brandon i'm also hoping for some karma to come his way has been unemployed since october at unemployed but now you're winning you've got karma he of course registered that dna spray dot u s yes a good one which we actually mean somebody's it might be useful for uh... actual initiatives well you know that we had whoever owns and no agenda news dot com I haven't seen it come through yet, but he saw what i'm doing with the knowage in the news network He said oh dude here. It is no agenda news calm. I'll sign it over to you right now

44:50 it's beautiful yeah, it is great. I love it thank you in other words we have our own people parking sites all over the place that's right and then associate executive producer will be John Dunn from Arvada Colorado several months since I've donated he gave us $250 decided to go the check route to keep the fees out of pockets of evil PayPal John Dunn you say? John John done oh he said the check right that's why it's not on the list okay I've been listening for less than a year but your show is of great value to me and it's changed the way I listen to the media. It has actually made most mainstream media unbearable stomach yeah don't that's what we'll do for you my friend, don't worry about it yes if we're trying to make you sick glad you listened to that crap so I don't have to hope this contribution helps things going keep up good work it's like no agenda! We're just like X-Lax

45:40 will make you sick so there's your own thank our executive producer and associate executive producer for this week show 283 that's it yeah it's all we got. So we have Don Bean and John Dunn? Don Bean and John Dunn Wow mono-syllabic yes, so a quick little mention here We have Scott who did one day in Gitmo Nation. He says, I'd like to nominate a very kind gentleman... Scott's from the UK as you can tell uh... called carl ranson from christ church new zealand a k get my nation whole lot of shaking going on where p are mentioned on the next no agenda he did some great work to produce a kindle version of one day and give my nation for me which is now in sale just in time for world bookday which is today apparently john will book that isn't not yet i guess i was early so uh... you can then link in the show us of course uh... at amz end dot t o slash get mo kindle very very nice now um

46:41 John, I had a little talk about this. What i'm seeing is first of all there's almost no time to thank everybody for all the domains they're forwarding but it's also honestly kind of cheap way to get mentioned at the top of the show and its not really fair to people who are really putting sending us cash uh... and that the list is just so long the domains are great in it's highly appreciated so if you want to find out who we know it's it's in the show notes but as it would just be half-to you know we have to kind of it yeah will listen in the show noted down here with me exactly so we have a anti government patriot dot com now fording to know agenda showed up on we have uh... this is a good one breaking n

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Domain Name Forwarding and No Agenda Dice

The hosts acknowledge various listeners who have forwarded domain names to the show's website, including "1800shutupslave.com" and "gitmonation.com." A discussion of the ".42" experimental top-level domain occurs. Additionally, a final call is made for the limited-edition green Saint Patrick's Day No Agenda dice.

domain names· icann· no agenda dice· saint patrick's day· top-level domain

45:40 will make you sick so there's your own thank our executive producer and associate executive producer for this week show 283 that's it yeah it's all we got. So we have Don Bean and John Dunn? Don Bean and John Dunn Wow mono-syllabic yes, so a quick little mention here We have Scott who did one day in Gitmo Nation. He says, I'd like to nominate a very kind gentleman... Scott's from the UK as you can tell uh... called carl ranson from christ church new zealand a k get my nation whole lot of shaking going on where p are mentioned on the next no agenda he did some great work to produce a kindle version of one day and give my nation for me which is now in sale just in time for world bookday which is today apparently john will book that isn't not yet i guess i was early so uh... you can then link in the show us of course uh... at amz end dot t o slash get mo kindle very very nice now um

46:41 John, I had a little talk about this. What i'm seeing is first of all there's almost no time to thank everybody for all the domains they're forwarding but it's also honestly kind of cheap way to get mentioned at the top of the show and its not really fair to people who are really putting sending us cash uh... and that the list is just so long the domains are great in it's highly appreciated so if you want to find out who we know it's it's in the show notes but as it would just be half-to you know we have to kind of it yeah will listen in the show noted down here with me exactly so we have a anti government patriot dot com now fording to know agenda showed up on we have uh... this is a good one breaking n

47:27 so breaking any dot w s i.e breaking news which is for the bs uh... and what's a country that's where you keep re now go look it up um... most like an actor who some stuff around here we've got sheep putting dot com apparently there also now a four dot forty two top-level domain so we have no way to turn samoa there you go we have no agenda dot forty two dot forty two yeah how awesome is that? I've never heard of that. Yeah apparently you can, thats a top level domain forty-two check it out gitmonation east and gitmonation west dot com also forwarding to noagendashow.com one eight hundred shut up slave dot com is now forwarding to our show site like that uh... you know the .42 is an experimental numeric TLD launches without ICANN approval so its probably going to get killed well

48:24 uh... you learn stuff dot com very nice now we have a i think that's a good one yeah he has very nice we have one of our polish listeners is that given us no agenda dot p l and ice in order to show it from south korea to do that yes that would be perfect and uh... than a couple of final mentions here uh... one more mention of no agenda dice dot com as uh... only two weeks left to purchase the green saint patrick's day edition of no agenda dice doors close on the end will bones at midnight on march seventeenth two thousand eleven and i'll be the end of the green dice if you want to get in on that uh... thank you very much chris doesn't also initiative we like it um... and i would do what mentioned up all alvin

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Bullshit Filter and Kickstarter Success

A Firefox plugin called the "No Agenda Bullshit Filter" is highlighted, which automatically corrects names and terms on web pages (e.g., changing Donald Rumsfeld to "Ted Rumsfeld"). The hosts also celebrate the successful Kickstarter funding for "Rhino of the Bearded Ones," which will allow him to continue producing "No Agenda Shots."

firefox· plugin· kickstarter· rhino of the bearded ones· donald rumsfeld

49:10 I think that's how you pronounce his name. Now Paul has done, remember we talked about the no agenda bullshit filter? Yeah Okay so what... It's been going on for a while Well i misread what he was doing or who knows who started and whose finishing it but its a plugin for Firefox So it not just a site you go to You load the plug-in and any web page you go to, and there's a dictionary which we can add phrases to when he is updating it so if there is an article about Donald Rumsfeld that will show up as Ted Rumsfeld. If there is an article that mentions a gentleman Napolitano it'll say Lucy Napolitano So its correcting the errors? Yes!

49:52 at the royal wedding of course is prince jim of wales so uh... it's a good as a great initiative i'm i'm very proud of that and there was to contribute to that and i want to thank you personally everyone who contributed to rhino of the bearded ones kickstarter project it has been completed he funded his goal up partially in tank thanks of course to be stream tackler event last saturday and sunday uh... right of the beer of course does the no agenda shots they are every single hour on the hour uh... here at the and no agenda stream dot com and uh... looks like mister oil kicked in that the very last minute uh... and uh... what actually it goes on till this afternoon but he's already reached his three thousand three hundred thirty-three dollar goal ought to pay for his tuition and books so that he can continue to make the excellent new agenda shots i think that's a really good investment and i highly appreciate everyone who did that self uh... it's all good

50:47 Maybe that's why we didn't get any money. We all went to Rhino and his books. Nah, it was just a slow week. Okay. So... We'll pick up the pace with this show And of course you want to thank our associate executive producer John Dunn and our executive producer and the singular member of The 283 Club The door is closed on that You can't get in anymore if you want to be a club member 284's doors are now open Donate that exact to number amount and you become a member enlisted at the top end and a special call out special called and these are real credits you can put them on in your signature on your letterhead uh... in your own for your business card your im db profile and unlike the phone is in hollywood will actually vouch for it calls up we'll say yes executive producer everyone else propagate formula is this we go out we had people in the mouth

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Oil's Crude Show and Gaddafi Family Movements

A promotion for "Mr. Oil's Crude Show" follows a discussion on the lack of oil in Syria. Reports from Venezuelan and Spanish news sites suggest that Muammar Gaddafi's children have fled Libya via a G5 jet, traveling through Ghana to reach asylum in Venezuela.

mr. oil· venezuela· gaddafi· g5 jet· syria

51:49 Everybody say it loud and proud. Shut up, Satan! So where do they go to help us with these executive producerships? Oh, I almost forgot to mention vorac.org Slash and a if you see your stop sign You'll hear the jingle can't help it It just happens every single time for a dot org slash n a you can also go to no agenda nation slash na and No, agenda or north generation comm slash na or slash donate or that know agenda show calm as a link Wonderful. Please help us for the next Sunday event wonderful wonderful, so I think we've pretty much covered I think you know beaten it to death although I think Feeling it now. I hear Syria might be next No, no serious got no oil oh well Oh by the way reminder oils crude show

52:45 Coming up after today's no agenda right after the show mr. Oil's crude show if you want all the dirt on the oil cabal from The Insiders, it's on the stream and I think is a podcast as well so i think that would just a few wrap up a couple of things on this place as living apparently workers we saw side we got some day access to some russian websites with some guys defeat on the ground there saying they were the action was pretty minor yep wasn't much going on but we also have an access to a venezuelan news site that's the kind of underground so i think it runs out of spain actually dead says that the all the qaddafi kids except for that one guy shamp

53:25 uh... rivers is he the one that had uh... the hot the hot singers but mariah carey and everyone performing i don't know my all i know is it all the kids have jumped in a g five and they're in venezuela they went through ghana and then they did we didn't want to stay there so they went to venice way low where they were welcomed by the venezuelans and of course it was a big to do at the u n over the fact that uh... libya was kicked out of the civil rights and they have a some subsegment of the civil rights there's is some group in libya was like one of the members of this

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

UN Suspension of Libya and Venezuelan Criticism

The United Nations Human Rights Council suspended Libya, a move praised by U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice. However, Venezuelan envoy Jorge Valero criticized the move, accusing the United States of using human rights as a pretext for military intervention to seize Libyan oil and energy resources.

united nations· susan rice· venezuela· human rights council· jorge valero

54:00 committee you play actually play the clip I have here on that so we get it which one is this John it's the UN clips and look at the clips there's too many clips unfortunately Libya kicked off committee makes total sense let's rock it to the UN Susan Rice praise the move This is the first time that either the Human Rights Council or its predecessor, the Human Rights Commission have suspended any member state for gross violations of human rights. And we think this is an important step forward in enhancing the credibility of the Human Rights Council whose

54:37 credibility on these issues has often quite legitimately been called into question. The Venezuelan government has voiced criticism of Libya's expulsion but did not vote to block it. Venezuelan envoy Jorge Valero accused the US of seeking a pretext for military intervention So once in a while we get actual news from the Democracy Now show, which I... because i was looking for the alternative explanation for why Charlie Sheen thing is going on. You might as well play the Venezuela rants in the United Nations, because it's kind of amusing and they also signaled the Libyans that they could send their kids to Venezuela. Venezuela calls for the rejection of warmongering mobilization of the US Air Force and Navy in the Mediterranean Sea

55:26 Those who promote the use of military force against Libya do not seek to defend human rights, but rather as always to establish a protectorate and pillage the most important sources of oil and energy in the Middle Eastern region. Right! Yeah you know they may be a bunch of creeps but they get it right. It's amazing It really is amazing. Nobody pays, who cares? And meanwhile of course Venezuela's a crap hole and these guys are going to be moving there so it'll be kind of interesting Apparently they brought some hot Ukrainians with them These guys I mean what a life! All paid for by us That's what gets me Now here's the thing that kinda gets me too They say the Swiss say well we're gonna freeze all the bank accounts What?! Under what pretense Well its even worse you know that President Obama signed an executive order

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Executive Order 13566 and Freezing Libyan Assets

President Obama signed Executive Order 13566 on February 25, 2011, blocking property and prohibiting transactions related to Libya. This affects billions of dollars held in U.S. banks like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase. The Swiss government's decision to freeze Gaddafi's accounts is also discussed, with speculation that it stems from a "deal gone bad" with European oil interests.

barack obama· executive order 13566· goldman sachs· switzerland· libya

56:27 on the 20, I have it here actually because i was quite amazed. Because of course you know who manages all this money? It was on the 25th of February Executive Order Libya that's the name of the executive order blocking property and prohibiting certain transactions related to Libya And it literally says that no person, no company, no one representing a company. No nothing! Including Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citibank etc., can do anything with any money from Libya, from a person from Libya, from the Central Bank from Libya... Anything! You know that all that money is here?

57:11 You know it is. So what, are they just stealing it from the banks now? I mean this...I found this to be very weird Yeah, I find the whole thing even with the Swiss weird So all hell breaks loose in the country, the guy's got like say a few billion dollars in the Swiss bank account and the Swiss decide to freeze the account. Let me ask you question... Under what pretense? I mean this guy should be stealing money from his people but what gives the Swiss the right to start that just frees the guys bank accounts? I'll tell you! What's in Switzerland? Zug And what is in Zouk? Glencore, all the oil companies. Mark Rich! Here's what I think happened...I think this is a deal gone bad. Someone paid for something really big probably an oil company or like a Glencore and Gaddafi said now I'm gonna have another toke

58:05 and i said oh yeah bitch let me show you how this works when we're taking your money and then they'll kick you out. This sounds like a deal gone bad or something, something happening here Switzerland it's fishy yeah well what do we know? We don't know much! We don't know nothing so nobody bother us all we do is deconstruct Well I do have reports that Libya's billions uh... thirty billion dollars of assets of the marga da fias family in the libyan government are uh... in private equity firms including goldman sachs city group jp morgan chase and the carlisle group which would make sense that's that's just a detail on receiving from my boots on the ground and uh... foots in the oceans

58:59 Okay, so right Right. I'm done. So I get one of it They got they got to get something some groovy visuals going or people aren't gonna care any Ukrainian nurses Did you put them on the air? Yeah That's a that would be good But they know what I'm saying is like they have 24 hours To show some really compelling video or people aren't gonna care anymore and they'll lose That's why the hedge is the the Pan Am bombing. They've gotta keep they've got to keep it going somehow We're into you know People short attention spans man By the way, nicely timed after the Oscars. Yeah which reminds me we need to talk a little bit about the Oscars We promised we would

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Eleanor Holmes Norton Stammering Clip

An audio clip of D.C. Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton features a severe stammering episode during a public statement. The hosts document the peculiar nature of the speech pattern, comparing it to other "stammering Democrats" they have tracked, and suggest it may be a sign of stress or deception.

eleanor holmes norton· stammering· c-span· dc representative· audio clip

59:38 We can do that after our break or we can do it now, or we could play a little minor clip as a segue. I have another stammering Democrat. Oh no! I'm sorry i was doing real news No stop kill Ok killed So you know I've been following stammering Democrats Which includes our president Our President and Tavis Smiley And now I got Eleanor Norton not news she's from she is the uh... representative of dc and she does a stammering thing in here that i have to promise everybody out there that i did not edit this was actually kind of astonishing sorry pullback well you would have to fight people at the whale

1:00:22 in order to quell the stampede of people saying you have violated a fundamental right. And what does that say? Is that when someone's lying, they do that? I think it's, i think they've...I don't know. I'm just documenting it and finding it peculiar. And its not normal stammering because most people if they're gonna start to stammer or in this case stutter right they usually stop themselves of their professional and their public you know gain composure she went like ballistic with this thing but let's hear one more time that was kind of fascinating well you would have to fight people at the well

1:01:02 uh... in order to it's it's it's it's a it's it's it's it's it's a quell the stampede of people saying you have populated a fundamental right and i did not get into teaching tickets to be depicted so i don't know i'm back as an documenting these all have us at medley eventually he should auto-tune it I'll be cool. Yeah, maybe no because so okay very nice a little aside I don't again. I don't know what it means by can I just I had this discussion with Miss Mickey last night about Charlie Sheen? I think we just need to address it for a second So I think this is a classic

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Charlie Sheen Business Dispute and Media Narrative

The public breakdown of actor Charlie Sheen is analyzed as a business dispute with producer Chuck Lorre rather than a simple mental health crisis. The hosts compare the media's "wacko" narrative to the treatment of Michael Jackson. A debate occurs regarding the ownership of CBS, clarifying it is owned by Viacom/National Amusements rather than Sony.

charlie sheen· chuck lorre· cbs· viacom· two and a half men

1:01:47 Hollywood whackers story in progress happening before our very eyes because the model is Exactly the same as used for Michael Jackson, and I have a tie-in here So first of all we've got us the guy's gotta be crazy. He let me step back this whole thing stems from business dispute Chuck Lorre who has those crazy Credit cards at the end of the vanity card with it like all this text you have to freeze-frame it But if you go to Chuck Lorre comm or Chuck Lorre productions, whatever. It is You can actually read them So I guess he was in some kind of business dispute with Charlie Sheen who of course has been The way he is for forever I mean do the guys always hanging out with hookers and blow and whatever? Yeah, it seems to do good work III don't know what he's doing his personal life

1:02:37 uh... does it but there's no who not we really don't know because it just all its tmz it's a entertainment tonight is extra and we don't know what's really happening receives do good work and the show two-and-a-half men is of course in mega mega syndication i'm surprised that uh... that hillary clinton didn't say that uh... that uh... you know that's what did these foreign leaders see is to have met our charlie sheen very funny uh... because it's in all over the world it's hundreds of millions of dollars and charlie sheen is not just getting residuals from sag on this okay he is being ideas a piece of the of the international distribution um... i don't have it paperwork for fact but there's no way you can be doing to show this long with the success without owning a lot more of that uh... and they're spin-offs from it

1:03:28 So then, you know so he's still delivering good work as far as I know and then Chuck Lorre starts to put up all kinds of things like Charlie Sheen has no soul. He is dead on the inside. So he is taunting him and then Charlie Sheen whatever he has got his normal stuff going on And then he starts hammering out at lashing out at Chuck Lorre. There is a business dispute between these two not dissimilar to Michael Jackson or any artist for that matter in a record company So, which in this case was Sony. So we've got this dispute going on and of course it's propagated beautifully Charlie Sheen is crazy he's a nut job everyone's calling him a wacko you know wacko jacko win-win oshino It's the same thing they take his kids away because he's unfit to have his...he has got a restraining order total shades of Michael Jackson except that he was a pedophile

1:04:25 And the next step is he's going to overdose and he's going to die because he's worth more dead than he is alive. Let me give you the connection What television broadcast company owns two-and-a-half men? CBS, owned by Sony This is their model CBS isn't owned by Sony What are you talking about Of course it is No its not Of course it is! No it's not Yes it is NO Who's it owned by then It's not owned by Sony. Yes it is! That's...it's owned by Viacom if I'm not mistaken. They're owned by Sony No Ah shit, there goes my whole theory CBS Records What's his name? The old man they uh You mean Sandy Redstone Sandy Redstone They used to be owned by Sony No the never used to be owned by Sony Oh then that sucks I like the way you walked it down the aisle and boom it was a wrong sex Turn turned out the bride was a dude

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Bipolar Disorder and the MKUltra Theory

Medical experts on news programs suggest Charlie Sheen is experiencing a manic episode characterized by "pressured speech" and delusions of grandeur. The hosts discuss the link between bipolar disorder and substance abuse, while also floating a "crackpot" theory that Sheen's behavior could be related to MKUltra-style psychological manipulation.

bipolar disorder· charlie sheen· mkultra· pressured speech· substance abuse

1:05:28 Right was a dude. Sorry well anyway, I still think this is a Hollywood wack I really do it I think you may be on to something but you're gonna have to go low. I gotta go deeper ash now I do have someone I sandy redstone your right can play the real news thing now okay here we are and now back to real I'm not always right. There's finally somebody, and I have to give credit to Stepan Poupoulos for bringing on a documentary... He brought on a doctor who discussed about the any Susie see came out with this. It's oh yeah, this is bipolar Sheen apparently the guys made some one comment says you know there's a lot of bipolars out there in fact by the way for the no agenda book club I'll make sure to put on the book Club hold on a second when they do with it

1:06:20 uh... the book is to books by uh... robert d heart here h a r e and one of them is that without conscience the disturbing world of the cycle paths among us i've mentioned this on the show before and his other book snakes in suits and he was the sequel to snakes on the plane kind of so uh... the bipolar disorder you need me says something interesting is once some people most by sixty percent of bipolar sir are dark and i'm drugs in one sort another essentially self dosing their their their problem and he says that sometimes when they go completely clean kid just releases the worst part of bipolarism yet they take that dot discovery in this meeting again

1:07:03 She says I know people who look exactly like this right after they quit coke. So this is exactly what it is This is this is the behavior? This is the everything and she's no doctor Yeah, well I play these backwards now because i think that the guy was interesting but played a bipolar lecture and he also uses an interesting term I've never heard before but I like it because it describes the situation called pressured speech where you're blabbing about real fast we know people who do that. Oh yeah and but play the bipolar lectures quite interesting last twenty twenty now let's get more on all this is senior health medical editor doctor richard best reason back with us this morning christina wants a lack of conditions though specialist in the founder full circle intervention risks begin review you said yesterday when first saw the system email

1:07:52 and said if you saw someone acting out the way that Charlie Sheen is acting out, you would recommend immediately they have to go see a psychiatrist. What stands out there? Well George, there are two types of bipolar disorder also called manic depressive illness One where we're mainly seeing depressive symptoms with occasional mania but what you're seeing here is a full-fledged manic episode And with that mania you see delusions of grandeur. You know, talking about having tiger blood, having a brain and heart that can handle all these drugs. You see pressured speech so he's talking very quickly, jumping topics saying things that don't make sense and then one other hallmarks manic depressive illness is his lack of judgment in all aspects of his life and thats what makes it so hard to deal with this ilness But he asked the question in interview if this is manic bipolar how come I'm not crashing?

1:08:42 Well, you know 90% of people will have those crashes but not everybody and it may be that he's had those and some of that has been masked with drugs. Drugs can offset some of those symptoms And what can trigger these bouts of mania? Well we know there is a big genetic component to bipolar disorder but triggers are not all that much known 60% of people who have bipolar disorder will have substance abuse. And one thing you'll sometimes see is that as those drugs go away, as they come off those drugs it will unmask those manic symptoms and that may be what your seeing here. New Theory MKUltra

1:09:19 so uh... could be here so anyway site so and susie did this went on that's okay with that that kind of at least for me it kinda s explains everything it doesn't explain the media is preoccupation affected their just giddy over they've had to get cheap material well other things in the world more important are going on no caddy by the way the big cover-up you can have your theory i can have my but i think the story that there was a cover up they want talk about is the iraqi riots Because there's that I mean, there's a lot of stuff. It's beautiful a lot of riots always good riots going through some real turmoil right now we're gonna get to that after but also let's face it the The economics just work its so cheap Charlie Sheen comes to you Yeah

1:10:02 Yeah, and it's expensive. Normally expensive! Exactly, you know and huge ratings And otherwise you got to go to Iraq You gotta get paid, either buy some B-roll from somebody or set up the green screen The whole production crew It's cheap material Yep exactly That's cheap for us too So let me play this Sheen bipolar medley I think it kind of shows all the things that doctor said This pressured speech and the rest of it is kinda wrapped up But unedited outbursts and I was banging seven-gram rocks and finishing them because that's how I roll. I have one speed I have one gear go like that have people questioning his mental health some are saying the year bipolar Wow, and then what what's the cure medicine make me like them not gonna happen? I'm by wait see before he says it so I'm down with that I mean I agree with a lot of things He says I have to admitting I went here and there now what oh

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Charlie Sheen, Alex Jones, and Piers Morgan

Charlie Sheen's media blitz, including his appearance on the Alex Jones Show and an interview with Piers Morgan, is reviewed. Sheen's use of the term "winning" and his self-identification as the "Che Guevara of Hollywood" are highlighted. The hosts express skepticism toward Alex Jones's role in the saga, suggesting he may be part of a disinformation effort.

alex jones· piers morgan· charlie sheen· che guevara· winning

1:09:19 so uh... could be here so anyway site so and susie did this went on that's okay with that that kind of at least for me it kinda s explains everything it doesn't explain the media is preoccupation affected their just giddy over they've had to get cheap material well other things in the world more important are going on no caddy by the way the big cover-up you can have your theory i can have my but i think the story that there was a cover up they want talk about is the iraqi riots Because there's that I mean, there's a lot of stuff. It's beautiful a lot of riots always good riots going through some real turmoil right now we're gonna get to that after but also let's face it the The economics just work its so cheap Charlie Sheen comes to you Yeah

1:10:02 Yeah, and it's expensive. Normally expensive! Exactly, you know and huge ratings And otherwise you got to go to Iraq You gotta get paid, either buy some B-roll from somebody or set up the green screen The whole production crew It's cheap material Yep exactly That's cheap for us too So let me play this Sheen bipolar medley I think it kind of shows all the things that doctor said This pressured speech and the rest of it is kinda wrapped up But unedited outbursts and I was banging seven-gram rocks and finishing them because that's how I roll. I have one speed I have one gear go like that have people questioning his mental health some are saying the year bipolar Wow, and then what what's the cure medicine make me like them not gonna happen? I'm by wait see before he says it so I'm down with that I mean I agree with a lot of things He says I have to admitting I went here and there now what oh

1:10:59 If I'm bipolar, aren't there moments where a guy like crashes into the corner and is like oh my god it's all my mom's fault? Shut up! Shut up. Stop move forward you know feed your child get back to your job Recently his father actor Martin Sheen said his son's addiction is a disease He has no right to do that and that's judgment And I have no interest in that I don't care if he was my dad or the guy down the street Or someone who fell out of the sky No interest in that I don't care if he was my dad Back off with your judgment Is he trying to help you Don't even take it that far to consider that because its judgment and its executed Coming with judgment you're executed. I don't care what you have to say What was interesting though is that this all? This old stemmed from an hour-long of telephone appearance on the Alex Jones show

1:11:45 and Alex Jones immediately went and pimped this for himself on every single show he could. He was on everywhere, including Joy Behar! It's like what? And some people see... there are a lot more things in port. Yeah it's Charlie is my friend blah blah blah whatever so now I'm convinced Alex Jones is disinformation I think there's some element of that. You might as well play the last clip, which is the one that proves to me that he's crazy because he says that Piers Morgan is a genius. I'd be speaking for them but it would just... It would have been nice if there was some measure of support from anybody! Anybody at this point! That's alright man every great movement begins with one man and I guess that's me. You're kind of Che Guevara of Hollywood at the moment? I'll take it. I'll take it, nice

1:12:36 Charlie it's been a pleasure, likewise. It has been fascinating and I hope if you do get this sorted... You're fabulous! Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. I hope that when it gets resolved you come back on and talk about it Absolutely after I've won Because I kind of feel that TV needs you Yes it does You know? You are one of life great characters Oh thank you good sir And you have admitted to falling other ways out a little bit Sure but everyone is entitled to second go I reckon There ya'go So wish you good luck with it Yes, thank you very much keep winning Keep winning. Yeah. Well anyway I like Charlie winning he's not winning a hate that mentioned anybody well I like Charlie Sheen and I think A lot of the stuff he's done He's done some interesting stuff against the New World Order which I appreciate yeah No, I think I agree and you by the way you I think you and him have the same birthday birthday I'm one year older than he is

1:13:26 now that i look at all of a lot younger i'll tell you that well the white weather and like to know the why nobody is asked this question because every time i see him he's had in those job but it looks like there's no sense to know which i has been broken severely broken it is twisted and bent away over to the right maybe he said maybe was that the hollywood slut squad that uh... you know that they lindsay's get no more play you know she can create a diversion anymore site uh... lindsey going steel something like uh... necklace And she steals the necklace like, eh whatever. Nice dress you know everyone's crazy about the dress Then they try a couple others Hey we got that MKUltra what's that wacko? That whack job Who is the guy we go under control with a chip in his head The designer John Galliano yeah that one make him say something against the Jews

1:14:14 Now that didn't really play no one cares nobody knows who he is but Charlie Sheen now. Now you're talking so maybe they needed the Well, I still like to help those looks all busted up well because they roughed him up like you gotta go do this stuff ruffed in You gotta go do this man Otherwise we're gonna kick your ass when it you can OD and a very unfortunate way on Oh thing didn't get anywhere. He'll get any legs It's just like he was drunk in a bar moaning and groaning And he looked like at just an He's a dick! And have you ever seen his clothes? Please. It's like someone threw up on a t-shirt. I'm like, nice thanks. So uh yeah and... His fashion. And i guess Paris Hilton gave up on the whole scheme so she doesn't care. That guy is it oh Paris Hilton? Oh they mean Perez. Yeah Paris Hilton all right okay John that's enough that's more than... Okay well then close it yes let's do that and now back to real news

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Taco Bell Beef Quality and Signature Recipe

Taco Bell launched a marketing campaign to defend its "seasoned beef," which it claims is 88% premium beef and 12% "signature recipe." The hosts examine the ingredients in the signature recipe, noting the presence of silicon dioxide (sand) and sodium phosphates, which the company defends as FDA-approved and common in household spices.

taco bell· fda· silicon dioxide· sodium phosphate· beef

1:15:10 You know we've... So uh, oh I'm sorry. That's funny that it's not really a close-up but since we're on... I don't have a close up. Since you want to change topics i got one Go for it Play the Taco Bell commercial I knew it was coming somehow There has been alot of talk about our seasoned beef But here is the truth Here is the real deal Our seasoned beef is 88% premium ground beef And 12% signature recipe If you wanna see When I was making mud pies, I also called it my signature recipe. Twelve percent! Signature recipe i.e., plastic shavings. That's signature recipe? Just go to tacobell.com It's right there But if you want to know what it tastes like Come to Taco Bell and get a Crunchwrap Supreme for only 88 cents Tell them I sent ya 88 cents this week ONLY I'm gonna get one myself People wanna talk? Let em' talk about that

1:16:05 Yeah, let them talk about it. We're winning! We're Taco Bell! Win win win... So what is it? Did you check it out? What's the... Yeah yeah I'm over on the page now You go to tacobell dot com and over on the right there's a thing you can click on It gets to beef quality And then has things like what are those other ingredients Are Beef Truths and by the way The Beef Truths is done in a propagandistic way Let me just read you the sentence we stand behind the quality of our new season beef 100% which makes it sound like we stand behind it 100 percent. So then another one says what is our seasoned beef recipe made with 88% premium beef and 12% signature recipe? And you click on this, it says find out about our signature recipe and you click on it and go onto page number two. What are these other ingredients they have some pretty weird names

1:16:50 Well, they do have weird names. Perfect for tongue twisters! But these ingredients are completely safe and approved by the FDA They're common ingredients also found in food items at your grocery store like aspartame and fluoride Each ingredient helps make our seasoned beef taste great Many of them are items you might use at home such a salt peppers and spices Ingredients like oats and sodium phosphates Hey John next time you're over here I'll say, hey John can you pass the sodium phosphates? Sodium phosphate. Because i use those at home. So what is it? They also have a... let's see which one it is It's the one about.. Is there sand in the taco meat? Yeah! Is that one of them? I heard a rumor there's sand in your taco meat This is completely false Oh my god! Whoa hold on a second

1:17:38 I got the Taco Bell. You got the Taco Bell? Yeah The truth is what has been referred to as sand, is silicon dioxide Better known as... Sand! It's a safe common food ingredient often used in spices, seasoning and many restaurant and packaged foods is used to prevent dry ingredients from sticking together. Anyway it goes on I was right my signature recipe is sand! There you go. I have a commercial we've talked about it a lot But I don't think we've actually played the corn sugar ad. Did we ever play that? No, we haven't. We haven't played it so... Corn sugar is the rebranding of a lot people who listen to show know this but it's important bring up from time-to-time Is the rebranding of high fructose corn syrup which was invented to give to cattle to make them fat quick Am I saying that correctly John you're scientist

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Corn Sugar Rebranding of High Fructose Corn Syrup

The Corn Refiners Association is attempting to rebrand high fructose corn syrup as "corn sugar" to combat negative public perception. The hosts argue this is a deceptive marketing scam intended to eventually allow manufacturers to simply list "sugar" on labels, bamboozling health-conscious consumers.

high fructose corn syrup· corn sugar· fda· marketing· rebranding

1:18:38 I don't know. You douchebag! Sorry. So you kind of missed the payoff there, which is sugar is sugar. I want to hear that again. Sugar is sugar. Sugar is sugar. Sugarisugar. That's the meme we discussed from the get-go when they first came up with this corn sugar and

1:19:15 and we know that what's going to happen is they're gonna eventually go to congress or the fda and say what why do we have to put corn sugar was the same as same thing like can we just drop the corn and now instead of saying high-fructose corn syrup on the bottle a coke it's gonna stay sure yes this issue this is a scam from the get-go discord two-two to bamboozle the public and if it actually happens which you will as we predict uh... it's going to be as a sad day in the end the history of the fda which is already pretty checkered this far as i'm concerned is has become ridiculous well then we have the e p a and uh... the e p a s course they receive from uh... the president united states cardinal speaking the native tongue of hillary clinton that was her up on the cheek politically out so-called lost for the political reality

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

EPA Regulation of Farm Dust and Livestock

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is considering new regulations on "particulate matter," specifically targeting dust created by farming activities. Representative Ted Poe criticizes the proposal, noting it would require farmers to mitigate dust from dirt roads and even livestock movement, which could lead to significant fines for the agricultural industry.

epa· ted poe· farm dust· particulates· agriculture

1:20:09 uh... to kind of make up any rules they want and basically define people to uh... to make it a tick put people out of business and ted poe who is i think you see a democrat republican i don't know looking as you keep talking here he did some grandstanding but i thought was pretty funny and that it turns out the e p a now wants to regulate dust I'm like, what? Dust and he lays it down for us. The Environmental Protection Agency has apparently run out of things to regulate and tax so they are considering new guidelines for regulating particulate matter emissions which is... What is that John? Particulates matter yeah more commonly known to you and me as dust

1:20:58 now i know what you're thinking this is just cannot be true what kind of crazy scheme is this well the e p a dust police was specifically right farm dust farmers would be required to have does collectors on their harvesters planners combines and hanging equipment well my personal but particular by the way gender who began as it has something to be regulated when was coming out of smokestacks and so they had to put scrubbers on it, other things to keep the smokestack emissions from throwing out a bunch of carbon dust. Usually like black soot is what it rounded too. And that was reasonable but... And actually works right? So when you look at the smoke stack... The fact is that guy's plowing his field he can't expect uh... Oh no! It gets worse John! It's not just about plowing the field

1:21:46 it mean i could even kind of get into it but still you know like wow alright dust now not because much further according to ted paul the republican by the way that has a crackdown on does created from driving a pickup truck down a dirt or gravel road i'm not making this up the federal government is considering farm dust regulations that are calls from driving on a dirt road This is genius. So I thought, well maybe this is just some backdoor attempt to rid America of our majestic four-wheel drive pickups that liberals loathe so much and find some way to force these battery operated toy cars

1:22:29 These battery-operated toy cars, which I gotta say Ted. I'm agreeing with you on the rest of us But the new proposals don't just apply to dust created from driving No They are fair and they are balanced in their overreaching authority Farmers and ranchers are going to have to somehow limit the dust created by livestock on their property as well So, say Bessie the cow kicks up too much dust running over to your pickup truck at feeding time. The EPA is going to fine you for Bessie's misconduct! You need to move your cattle to another pasture during the daytime? Well don't do it on a dry day because they may kick up too much dust. The Dust Police solution is to manage dusty dirt roads with water or get this pave them with asphalt. Is great...is great

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Michael Moore on National Wealth and Collectivism

Filmmaker Michael Moore argues on Grit TV that the United States is not broke and that the wealth held by the "one percent" should be treated as a national resource. The hosts criticize Moore's collectivist rhetoric, specifically his claim that there is a "finite amount" of cash in the country despite the reality of quantitative easing.

michael moore· wisconsin· collectivism· taxation· grit tv

1:23:19 Think that's a beautiful thing. It's like we just need to put more farmers out of business Yeah, it was fantastic so on the other side of the aisle We've got a guy who I think is a total douchebag Michael Moore who is rich by the way very rich wealthy guy no more than filmmaker yes wealthy guy he's made some good coin off of off of his movies and He's on grit TV and you can't say stuff anywhere Michael Moore we're following you, were hunting you down. Listen to his idea of how are going to fix all that he has a for guy who does movies about how the world works she's very misled, misguided and plain wrong have a listen to this To me the solution is quite simple first of all we're not broke this country is not broke state of Wisconsin is not broke

1:24:19 There's a ton of cash in this country, trillions of dollars of it. But it is a finite amount there is only so much cash. What? Has he ever heard of quantitative easing printing money now there's only so much cash We just need cash I know alot of people want to send blankets or water just send your cash. with your life, with that money. We've allowed them to take that That's not theirs! That is a national resource! That is ours! We all have this! We all benefit from this! No kidding! Listen to what he says in 20 seconds listen to the end! That's our money! It's our money! Suffer as a result of not having it

1:25:24 And I think that we need to go back to taxing these people at the proper rates. We need to see these jobs as something that we own, that we collectively own as Americans and you just can't steal our jobs and take them someplace else." What is he talking about? He's talking about collectivism! Yes exactly Well, you know she's always had been of that ilk. Yeah but the president is also confused John No! yeah so he had the governors now remember I want... We're loaded into the gills with clips today and i can't help it So this is um I'm running out after this though Umm..so we have this uh remember there was like the council of governors at the president set up

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

President Obama on Public Worker Rights in Wisconsin

President Obama addressed the Council of Governors, commenting on the labor disputes in Wisconsin. While acknowledging the need for fiscal discipline and salary freezes, Obama stated that public employees should not be "vilified" and that their rights should not be infringed upon. The hosts debate whether collective bargaining is a "right" or a negotiated privilege.

barack obama· wisconsin· collective bargaining· public workers· budget crisis

1:26:18 and uh... and of course is the whole idea is when we get martial law he's gonna make these council governors implemented in about all kinds little special powers and stuff but who knows what the hell was going on but it suspect in my mind so we've got a mall at the white house are all hanging out partying and uh... you make some have been some half-handed like you know promised like our two thousand fourteen if u if you know that's when you can succeed as a state if you want to book your tenth amendment rights and not take obama care uh... but not until then disco like a compromise but he said something in written regards to the uh... i'd presume what's happening in that wisconsin and i guess they also fired all the teachers in rhode island uh... about as states workers rights uh... apparently their pension fund is it is a right easy in my that can't be picked up incorrect so i was not a writer says negotiated uh...

1:27:19 situation, not a right. Well listen to what the president said... Oh, why is it not playing? I also know that many of you are making decisions regarding your public workforces and i know how difficult that can be. I recently froze the salaries of federal employees for two years It wasn't something that I wanted to do but I did it because of very tough fiscal situation we're in so I believe everybody should be prepared to give up something in order to solve our budget challenges and I think most public servants agree with that. Democrats and Republicans agree with that In fact, many public employees in your respective states have already agreed to cuts but let me also say this...I don't think it does anybody any good when public employees are denigrated or vilified for their rights are infringed upon Huh! Their rights are infringed upon?

1:28:19 Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. There is a clip that's kind of interesting because he uses public workers or whatever because there has been a bunch of surveys saying the public is against the governor and these CBS Pew surveys, whole bunch of them and uh... just a slew of them and i'd by the way people survive never recall i have been called a couple times on for gallup once in some other survey can we still have a rotary dial so they do yeah analyze and uh... the thing is that uh... i've noticed that use of weird language did to give you uh... to make you say the wrong thing right to really answer sure

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Frank Luntz on the Language of Labor Disputes

Pollster Frank Luntz explains how the choice of words significantly impacts public opinion on labor issues. He notes that while 60% of Americans support "public workers," that support drops when they are called "government workers." Similarly, the term "collective bargaining" polls well, but the "right to join or not join a union" flips the results.

frank luntz· collective bargaining· public workers· polling· linguistics

1:29:02 Play the Frank Luntz clip. Frank Luntz is a guy who studies this and he has a new book out, no agenda Book club might put it on the list called Win I guess you get a lot of publicity from Charlie Sheen Coincidence? I think not! But to play that Luntz clip is kind of interesting. Let's stick on this subject though and your use of language and how important it is, the president also waded a little bit further into the situation out in Wisconsin and told governors not to vilify public workers now a New York Times CBS News poll shows that 60% of Americans oppose state's efforts to weaken

1:29:38 the collective bargaining rights for union workers. I know you were in Madison, Wisconsin last week what words are key to the message being received out there? And by the way i have the scars from that. You used the phrase public workers if you call them public workers a majority of americans respect them if you call them government workers, a majority of Americans don't. How about the phrase collective bargaining rights? You saw 61% but if it is instead called the right of people to join or not to join a union then the whole side flips Right well we have a jingle for that actually So I thought that fit in there with your little clip

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Vodafone Network Sabotage and Guttenberg Resignation

In a "slave revolt" incident, the Vodafone mobile network in the UK was partially disabled after equipment was stolen from a telephone exchange. Meanwhile, in Germany, Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg resigned following a scandal involving the plagiarism of his doctoral thesis.

vodafone· egypt· karl-theodor zu guttenberg· plagiarism· germany

1:30:23 Let's do some non-clip news, John. I'm going to have a list that is a mile long of stuff that is just unbelievable We finally are seeing some slave revolt in Gitmo Nation East which I am very proud of and no one has really connected it to what was actually going on Criminals knocked out a large part of the Vodafone mobile phone network yesterday after stealing vital equipment Now what happened is someone took a van and crashed it into a telephone exchange and ripped the stuff out of there, And took the whole network down for like 18 hours or whatever. And duh! What is that? Oh sorry. Fucking webpages with stuff playing...

1:31:11 And not getting a lot of play, but of course Vodafone as we've demonstrated on this show is totally part of the system. They've been pretty evil in Egypt and other places just turning off the network and I'm sure they hand over all kinds of data gladly to the authorities. Good job everybody! Good job! I like it. I like that you just ripped them off the air That's exactly what we got to do Very good Gibbon nation Deutschland I guess you know they were holding up shoes the human resources there and Guttenberg has resigned. No! The guy who uh, you know lied or had plagiarized his thesis as a doctor and he quit because the people were having none of it this is good Of course that's severely underreported You can always expect that

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

David Brooks and The New Normal of Austerity

New York Times columnist David Brooks is identified as a promoter of the "New Normal" meme. His writing focuses on the necessity of long-term deficit cutting and the "austerity principle," which the hosts have previously predicted would be used to manage public expectations during economic decline.

david brooks· the new normal· austerity· deficit cutting· memes

1:32:04 And I would like to say, under the heading Meme Alert in the opinion pages David Brooks who... Brooks has got to be an agency guy. What do you think? Yeah! I never thought about it but could be. Alright, here's some people I know talk about him alot. Title The New Normal We're going to be a lot of deficit cutting over the next several years. The country's future greatness will be shaped by whether we cut wisely or stupidly, so we should probably come up with a few sensible principles to guide us as we cut." Yes ladies and gentlemen this is the new normal, the austerity principle, as predicted on this show it's the meme it's just the new normal get used to it shut-up slave

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Global Warming and Record Snowfall Rationalization

Climate scientists are criticized for claiming that record-breaking winter snowfalls are consistent with global warming. The hosts point out a contradiction: while some groups like Weather Underground link the weather to climate change, the NOAA Climate Scene Investigator unit stated that natural weather patterns were responsible, not global warming.

global warming· noaa· weather underground· climate change· snowfall

1:32:51 yeah and then we have uh... anything else before we get to the donations? Yeah I do have something else. So, i'm very confused because of course the science is in big reports i guess they had to cover their tracks here What caused the colossal snowfalls that buried much of the USA this winter? Setting snow records in New York and Chicago, one group of scientists blames global warming. Counterintuitive though it may be heavy snow storms are not inconsistent with a warming planet says Jeff Masters director of meteorology for The Weather Underground, a private weather service well we know what they're about now don't we

1:33:43 So, wait a minute. Hold on a second stop the press. Yeah it's not weather is not climate I know that's what they exactly this by the way is another another little good when you can use because now they're saying well this weather is because of the climate but they can't have both ways because if you say well it's like really cold, no but we're still the climate is heating up and they say weather is not climate. But now its like whether there is climate I'm very very confused but then we get to... I think they made a mistake oh yeah? You think? No yeah I think they walked into this one yep They should have just shut up about it kept their old theory because since the weather does fluctuate

1:34:27 they could just ride out these storms and say, well that's just weather is not climate. They should have stayed with that but now they're trying to rationalize everything and they are getting themselves into a heap of trouble And then we have the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration, the NOAA I don't know what happened here but they reported they had a Climate Scene Investigator Unit yes CSI believe it or no And they said, well there's no evidence of any global warming connection to the snow storms. Instead they say natural weather patterns were most likely entirely responsible for the snow storms So I think that the NOAA got a call and said look these guys are messing it up You know everyone is on board and you know these are not approved statements from Weather Underground They're just like trying to get in the news to promote their iPhone app or the iPad 2 app

1:35:22 and now we've got a light snip that in the bud because people are not going to start saying hey wait a minute you can have it both ways like those two douchebags currying dvorak to get a stop so i think the nla is now tasked with saying i know this is uh... you know because of course at the end of the report they say well global warming is real but what we're seeing now is just because if you know just like weather natural weather patterns yeah my good snus slapping them so it's uh... so they answer It's kind of weird. And something that astounded me from the technology press was this Gmail deletion issue? The outage Well it wasn't an outage, John

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Gmail Data Deletion and Cloud Computing Risks

A significant Gmail outage resulted in the deactivation and deletion of approximately 150,000 user accounts. Google's claim that they are restoring data from physical tape backups is met with skepticism. The incident is used to highlight the inherent risks of relying on cloud storage for critical personal and professional data.

google· gmail· cloud computing· verizon· data backup

1:36:11 Well, people's accounts got deactivated and deleted. Yeah this is a typical cloud thing and by the way I was going to mention this but before the show began you heard the phone ring i went over there as a recorded message from Verizon saying that the Verizon One phone and website the website for the rise in one fall and i don't know they have a maybe do or had one uh... is due to be website is going to be deactivated and they're gonna take down all of photos everything you've been storing if you want really really it's gonna be gone so you better go download it while you can otherwise you're gonna lose everything what caused much money love this is that this is why i don't like the cloud i got no white people just don't see as just a

1:36:52 you know uh... it's a temporary place to put stuff and is dangerous if you're going to put review on a rely on it well what i wondered as why was that one person at least one person saying cheap maybe this was a hack maybe someone broke in and was messing around the email system why does no one question this why does google get a free pass on this stuff Because they're Google, they're the good guys. No but seriously I'm like wow this is pretty serious and then what? They said they were restoring 150 000 gmail accounts from tape backup please do you know how many tapes that would take

1:37:33 That would be... It's less where they haven't managed to do it yet. I mean, it's gonna take a while. It would be at tape length of four miles someone calculated. Four miles of tape backups. These backup systems are robotic so its not impossible. I'm just not buying it and you know what doesn't even matter if I buy or not? I'm astounded that all these so-called techno journalists are like oh yeah because it didn't happen to them right thats why And Google says, oh it only happened to 0.12% and everyone just buys it. It's stupid! I hate them all... you too Where is your column? You should question this. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on KnowAgenda

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Listener Donations and the Zero Podcast

The hosts thank several donors, including Kenneth Holt and Ringo from Ontario. Jay Gautier from Flint, Michigan, receives a "de-douching" and promotes his "Zero Podcast," which features hosts broadcasting while intoxicated. The "birthday formula" for donations is explained as a way for listeners to calculate their contribution based on their birth year and age.

hamilton ohio· saskatoon· flint michigan· zero podcast· value-for-value

1:38:28 we do have a few people to thank for this week's uh... or this episode today not allow that so two eighty something two eighty three and let's do that guy kenneth hot kyle holds of hamilton ohio no need to make a special mention on the show just know that episode two eighty-two was awesome you guys do great work didn't didn't show up in the donations though there were still awesome So I take that personally by the way. We did, i guess we didn't do a good job. We even... 1989 well I always assume that. Didn't we even put Bieber or Gaga in the show title? Yeah I guess that wasn't the key. Ringo from Amherstburg Ontario needs some karma it's contract renewal time at work hope this helps $113 and 30 cents you need a medical advisor for this show as your coverage on medical topics sucks

1:39:20 Some right shantix most drugs some wrong vaccines except the sorrow, right? We got Danny the med student who pastors us all the time. Yeah, we got enough people We just have our own ideas about it Okay But anyway here's your karma my friend deserve you've got karma and also Karma is needed for uh... chasing i guess is chasin rose dole ski redskins the basket to by the way saskatoon is the paris of canada yet you better get used that name because he's sir chase in today's now search a scenario and i was looking at what carmen you've got karma going to be nighting him in a minute and not just just a quick uh... karma note uh... from rudy from upstart ventures dudes thanks for the karma shot just one let you know it works we salmon i

1:40:10 Got the place with three days and move in tomorrow. So the karma worked for him. And then we have... Come on, you can do it! You know it just says Pee Snakes here It's Paite Sneekus. Well he said that you could pronounce as snakes He sent me an email specifically saying you could pronounce as snakes Yeah, but its Paite. Paite Snakes $111.11 Jay Gautier, Flint Michigan as a regular five dollar a month subscriber I felt necessary to finally donate a little bit more and receive a de-douching Oh hold on a second let's give you that for a sec You've been de-douched! And he wanted some karma we could have get him a double hit I can do a broken hit

1:40:58 You've got karma and especially you guys are being my sole actual source of real news. Yeah Well, we are that it's true I don't see anybody else doing this I extend you my most health felt thank-you and please never quit the good fight I'm donating $111 now due to the obligatory birthday formula And I'll bet and you bet I'll be part of the 333 Club for the ultimate karma also I make Get a plug for my podcast is zero podcast at zero podcast.com It's pretty much the poster child of what John describes as being a bad idea To drink and broadcast I've always wanted to do a show where everyone was drunk on the show, I think they'd be great it's cool if the audience is drunk that's when it really works and Has a few other little notes here What can you explain Adam? What did 111 model is for people to donate how that works the birthday?

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Female Listener Shout-out

Several listeners are recognized for their contributions, including Alan Asaf and Justin Bach. A "de-douching" is performed for Justin Cohen. The hosts also highlight a 21-year-old female listener who is "awake" to media manipulation and the financial crisis, citing the film Zeitgeist as an influence.

knighthood· ron paul· madison wisconsin· ham radio· zeitgeist

1:41:53 formula yeah if uh... as you take the last two digits of the year you were born in now is born in nineteen sixty four that's a one-year before charlie sheen so on technically i am winning um... and always be winning compared to him cuz i'm it from sixty four and uh... you uh... add to that number uh... they do you all that u uh... turned in this year so i'll be forty seven and if that equals one hundred eleven well that's extra bonus karma for you should try and donate You've got karma. Some version of the 1111. Right, exactly Keith Edwards Gilbert Arizona $111.11 John Smith or Sir John Smith I'm very sorry St. Petersburg Florida you should there should be enough for a second knighthood and I want to night the guy who introduced me to both Ron Paul and no agenda can this knighthood go too if I guess we need another night here

1:42:47 wait a minute, this sucks. Who are we knighting? He wants Alan Asaf of Georgia to be knighted and I would assume Eric can do the math for us right quick and make sure that we have enough there for a second knighthood. Just put Alan Asaf on the list Justin Bach B-A-C-Q-U-E Lafayette Louisiana I'm sure it's pronounced in some Cajun way 7777 John Adam donating 77777 777 because I was born on the Ides of Martha at seven seventeen weighing seven pounds seven ounces also wagged the dog dot com made me laugh harder than i have in a long time still laughing about that one really it's wagged the dog dot-com Oh wag the dug wag the dug dot-com points to no agenda show David C. Pugh North Canton Ohio loved the show could use some karma for better job alright we'll hand that to you

1:43:46 You've got karma. 69-69 from him, he's got something on his mind Mike Paluski in Madison Wisconsin John and I am listening to NOAH Agenda for a little more than a year now figured it was time to donate i truly like the value model that the show operates on I'm donating because they find great value in your show and you should and I hope other people do too there is good contingent of NOAH agenda listeners among my friends none of them have donated yet So in an attempt to get them to donate, I would like to call Don New and Kenneth out as douchebags. Oh no! Douchebag! Thanks for putting on a great show Keeper of the Good Work and it's certainly appreciated

1:44:27 Justin Cohen, Grand Valley Ontario Canada. I was just called out by Jeff Juniper as a massive douchebag after i turned him onto the show and now I need some serious de-douching. You've been de-douched! However, I want to call out Richard Henderson, fellow no agenda listener and ham operator for listening and not donating. thanks for the good work from the canadian ham radio contingent be a donor not a boner at fifty six sixty five daniel hotner uh... double nickels on the dime from murphy's california guys have it right the list of support idea because working for them and socks so we say and chris d l n sir christ

1:45:14 Ich bin super blilj, want mit des gift word ik nrider van der roon tafel van geen agenda. Not bad! By the way if it's okay with you i prefer Rent Boys and Cabernet over Hookers & Blow so he has uh... knighthood coming well actually so here it he'd be gave us the accounting there and he is a on the list and they came up with that nine hundred ninety-nine dollars in ninety nine cents you know what that means we take any extra penny yeah i mean our big spenders for everything we had as will be nighting at chris keyland in just a minute and christopher lawton in dartmouth massachusetts greg

1:45:59 uh... brunsell in canoes show wisconsin fifty dollars each and mark he more in sacramento fifty dollars can hit my full message here please check the email you have to look at what i checked and then maybe it went to you but didn't go to me i do not i did not receive any will reach your email later marquis are markets like eric left I think it may be Robert Durden. Robert Durden, that's a wonder is related to Tyler from Hoboken New Jersey we have a couple extra ones that came in over the mail including $117.11 from Chris Poussatary in Bethel Park Pennsylvania represents my second niner-niner-niner-niner payment since they started listening Niner-Niner-Niner for you! First time he wanted to be anonymous but then John decided

1:46:50 Butcher my name. Okay, well I'm gonna butcher his name again great stuff He's looking for a new job. You need some karma. Okay? Well had that out to you've got karma he's the one who uh... whose wife hates the biodiversity jingle well she's already played it yeah was a great job adamant john i stopped listening to take you easy slash npr after discovering you guys i get my real news from no agenda and this is alan being in oakland there was an incident that mickey has a new intern twenty one-year-old and um... and shinshi you know that she's like well you know

1:47:32 Don't have cable yet. Just moved to LA don't have cable yet, so I don't have a television you don't need it They've got an internet and I've been following kind of Libya And says, you know it's kind of weird. It doesn't feel right You know I'm like okay and I've got to go real easy with the 21 year old and she says but you know I saw zeitgeist and like Beautiful man they really did this whole financial crisis They really just brought that on us didn't they? This kid is amazing! Okay Fabien, you're now my best my BFF forever and uh... and she's like you know that i'd i'd i can't watch the news is that have a feeling was just not real news so we've got star children who are awake and if you've got to came as you yet turn it into a month of the show and were trying to keep the show clean for that very so alan being open says he'll keep giving us money free key

1:48:21 exposing the BS. Can't be a douchebag any longer, I've been a listener from the beginning and look forward to every show never donated especially feel you guys are one of your five female listeners this is Carolyn Clifgen or cliffkin see klik le if GE and he was watching a TV show the young man walking through the drugstore said to his companion hey look a douchebag is a real thing really 5555 don't say it's a real thing it's an actual object well those no agenda guys men they're good they're everywhere

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

New Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable

Chasen Rudzilski, Chris Heelan, and Alan Asaf are officially knighted as "Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable" for their $1,000 donations. Additionally, Marquis Moore of VYB Technical Solutions offers a 20% discount to No Agenda listeners, with half of the proceeds being donated back to the show.

sir chasen· sir chris· sir alan· knighthood· vyb technical solutions

1:48:59 and finally uh... even invited rice dad asked if that we can put call where well idaho on the map but no agenda nation dot com and that's it for this week side donors okay so we congratulate uh... brandon being there was a dead uh... don says happy birthday eight turns twenty-eight on uh... march first Fourth? Fourth. On March 4th and Jay Gaultier celebrating a birthday Happy Birthday from your friends here at the NOAH Agenda Show from Adam & John I think we got, can you get it out? Yeah hold on. You got the big one today huh? Yep Alright Chasen Rudzilski step forward my friend

1:49:56 As, oh you know what? Chris Heelan would you please step forward as well. And Alan Assaf the three of you have reached your giving level of $1,000 some of you had needed an extra penny which we kicked in gladly so hereby pronounce thee Sir Chasen, Sir Chris and Sir Alan Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable Please have it one more cuz we got three and one more just for good measure We have hookers and blow and rent boys in Cabernet as requested by Chris here. Thank you so much We highly appreciate it, and of course the rings are real And they are on their way so probably Eric has

1:50:40 I already contacted you about ring size because that is now part of our package. Yes, please respond to that email about ring size or your going to get some standard size and it's probably could fit on some finger By the way do have a note from Marquis Moore because its interesting and im gonna have to read it. Been listening to the show for a few months was up to Xanny To make up for the time I didn't donate, I want to make the following offer. I have a small IT consulting and support business providing residential small business services in Sacramento California. Make a link it's called VYB Technical Solutions which is vybtechnicalsolutions.com For the month of March i'll offer 20% service discount to all No Agenda listeners 50 percent those proceeds will be donated back to The No Agenda Show at the end of the month

1:51:23 Wow, nice. I like it. That's fantastic. Thank you so much. No agenda show to receive the discount. I love that! That is great. That's awesome. Indeed. Oh man... And we do have one last special karma for Matthew Wittering who is apparently going on a date with some hottie Friday night which is tomorrow You've got karma. you see that uh... stop sign to borac dot org slash and anything i want to be a donor not a boner whatever your giving level is we've got a number of programs go to the war act out or slash n a support this show um... it was funny could we still get emails from people saying all you know i've done the math in a work great if you do you know do it by subscription now somehow works one percent of the listeners

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Gitmo News Network and Show Art Standards

Adam Curry discusses the development of the Gitmo News Network and the challenges of monetizing the Big App Show. The hosts also provide feedback to the show's "artists in residence," requesting that they omit episode numbers from cover art to keep it "evergreen" and ensure text remains readable at smaller resolutions.

gitmo news network· big app show· cover art· evergreen· itunes

1:52:26 to this program actually supports us and it's not enough. It really isn't. And I'm putting, man there is no data news network, I am putting a lot of time into it I'm pretty much on autopilot for the Big App Show which is kind of like my hedge. This is making no money, it's fun to do! I thought the Big App Show had all kinds of potential? There are no marketing apps, its like news you know people definitely want to get free apps and they love me showing them thankyou very much and I have a couple people who tried a little bit the model of value for value but you know it's like a hundred bucks a month. It's like I do an app every day for iPhone and everyday for Android, i'm going to try something else but I don't have time that really expand anything because this news network which is GitmoNationNews, gitmonewsnetwork.com But there are all kinds sites now pointing to it

1:53:20 You can find it pretty easily. It's really great I mean, it's a continuous flow 24 7 because people are putting stories and links into it from all across get my nation It's great. I mean just check into that like wow And we're gonna have all kinds of cool features and everyone can contribute and some I'm really building that out Don't forget got no edge into stream calm doing a lot of work We really are. I think we have a full service operation here. That's pretty amazing how much work we do now, and i want to mention the people who do art for us our artists in residence is a bunch of them we have a slew of regulars that do great works they all do great i want to mention to you guys first of all to not put the show number on there because we can use some of this stuff as evergreens and two make the type size

1:54:04 readable if you shrink the art down to 450 by 450 because we've had a number of pieces that are really good but when you shrink the cover down to 450, you can't read it. So we had to bump those and I want just make clear that there are artists... We have a lot of artists who listen to our show. Talented artists! Very talented! It's amazing! We have some of the best art cover art every single show that any show has ever produced on the internet Want to give it give a shout out to so we just tell people one more time where they can go to support the show? org Slash and hey you notice. We got that like the NBC xylophone in there yeah, that's nice sir Jeff Smith man rocking it a shout-out to Human resources and get my nation great white north Toronto specifically they awoke this past week to a note

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Toronto Mandatory Smart Water Meter Program

The City of Toronto is implementing a mandatory automated water meter program using technology from Alclara. The hosts warn that these meters allow for two-way communication, enabling the city to remotely shut off a resident's water supply without entering the home. The system operates on a 450 MHz frequency with a one-mile range.

toronto· smart meters· alclara· water conservation· surveillance

1:55:02 a mandatory note for their smart water meters. Oh yeah and I have chopped up their commercial with the beginning and then kind of the payoff so you can hear what if you don't, if you didn't know already this is what you got up there and of course it's coming everywhere and listen to this. Hello? I think I recorded it The City of Toronto is rolling out a mandatory automated water meter program that will replace or install water meters for all customers with more efficient and accurate automated meters. The meters, and the installation are free. A point installer will turn off the water. The lines are drained of any remaining water and a new water meter is installed

1:55:49 All water meters will transmit consumption data via a transmitter, eliminating the need for city staff to enter your home in the future to obtain your water meter reading. The transmitter wire is attached to the water meter and the transmitter box is placed in a location that will ensure the best possible signal transmission The transmitter is programmed by your installer and will only send consumption data and a serial number to the city. No personal homeowner information is transmitted. Homeowners... Except of course they had the serial number, I know exactly which house it is This is pretty amazing thing 450 megahertz what are broadcast on mile got a mile range made made by Alclara who knows what's in this box? And by the way they show the placement

1:56:32 It goes on the wrong side of the main shutoff valve. Are you with me, John? It's going on the right... so it's going on this side? They can shut it off! So they install a new shutoff valve and then they attach the smart meter to it But the shutoff valve is this humongous thing, they've got to cut a big hole in your wall and they show all this in the video. So... And this is two-way if you look at their website I've got it linked on show notes at ShutUpslaves.com If you look up Alclara It's 2 way communication They can transmit back to shut off your water remotely They don't even have to enter your home to shut off your water We have the automatic outside for power

1:57:19 You have that? You have a smart meter? Yeah. Are you kidding me?! They just put it in one day! Without asking, just like yeah here is... Well its outside I mean not inside the house Wow well thats pretty amazing. And all the numbers go way up there's some scam this is scam. Yeah well its control grid is what it is they can shut you off remotely they don't even show up Oh you didn't pay click. I better get a generator. You better pay your bill. Uh let see Getmonation lowlands Pretty interesting, that's really where it is all closing down on them. I feel bad. The Internal Revenue Service of the lowlands is now receiving all information profiles salary information details directly from the banks if you have a mortgage

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Bicycle Parking Fines and Jail in the Netherlands

In the Dutch town of Oss, a new law imposes a maximum fine of 3,800 euros and up to three months in jail for parking a bicycle in non-approved spots, particularly around train stations. The hosts characterize this as an extreme measure of control over the local population's primary mode of transport.

netherlands· bicycles· oss· fines· train stations

1:58:13 So if you have a mortgage now, the banks have to give all of their personal information about you to the IRS. Which is really nice! And this one kind of threw me off... so what would you say is uh... anyone who goes to Holland Amsterdam in particular What do you see on the street? What's the number one thing that you see? Bicycles! Exactly! There's a new law and this is in Oss which is of course just the first town that they're doing it in, if you park your bicycle illegally you can be fined up to 3800 euros and a jail sentence of maximum three months. What? What does that mean?! If they catch you parking your bicycle in non-approved bicycle parking spot

1:59:11 You mean in other words you're bicycling around, you go to the side of the road and there's a store. You just leave your bike there and run inside and buy Pepsi. Well it is particularly for... You get thrown in jail? It's particularly for around the train station. I guess they got tired of, you know because they've got bicycle racks where you can park your bike. You might have to pay for it. And by the way if anyone's ever seen one of these bicycle racks by the train station The thing is the size of a football field! Yeah its huge its huge But if you don't park in the designated parking spot and they catch ya stupid slave 3800 euro maximum fine which of course will hand out gladly

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

European Union Minimum Wage Harmonization and Labor Crisis

The European Union is moving toward "harmonizing" minimum wages across member states, which critics argue will lower standards for workers in wealthier nations. An example is cited in London, where Polish immigrants are hired through agencies to clean hotel rooms for low wages, displacing local workers and driving down pay.

european union· lisbon treaty· minimum wage· london· immigration

1:59:56 Or and or no it or I'm sorry three months in the in the in the slammer You're better off just buying the bicycle and ditching it. Yeah, not showing up new bike yeah, not sure does that my bike? I don't want that bike not at all European Union United States of Europe This is very interesting. They're now lobbying, remember the way the deal was with this Lisbon Treaty? It was supposed to be every country can have their own laws and it's just guidelines and of course all of a sudden we got this unelected Haiku Herman who is the President of United States of Europe Looks like they are setting up a law

2:00:42 that the Starfleet command can actually determine what the minimum wage will be Europe-wide so that they can harmonize this. This is a great elitist word, harmonize it so that someone in Greece who of course might be earning too much from their government job can be lowered down to the standard but it'll be a standard across all of Europe and this is a real big problem Because what's happening, and there is a great video that I have in the show notes. In London, so you have like the Marriott Hotel and they have the staff there who clean the rooms They are essentially Polish women who come over looking for a gig And they get paid by an agency and their literally making £6.15 per hour in London

2:01:45 And it's not like a full-time job. You know, it's flexible hours and It's so sad to see this I mean people have no work in England They're out of work the work that is there is taken by immigrants from other parts of Europe which of course has made legal and their wages just being the minimum wage is going to be pushed down It's already being pushed down and the Marriott is not in any violation because they just contract a separate agency. So they say, oh yeah here's X amount per year to clean the place you and the agency take care of all the problems And it's so sad to see I mean with its real crisis and its just... screw it. There nothing like what we do here at The Mexicans We just let them come in be illegal

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Unreported Iraq Riots and Human Rights Violations

While the media focuses on Libya, massive protests in Iraq have gone largely unreported. Iraqi security forces have reportedly killed dozens of protesters and detained hundreds more, including journalists and artists. Human Rights Watch has documented increased violations, including the torture and execution threats against members of the press.

iraq· baghdad· democracy now· human rights watch· journalists

2:02:33 But no, it's really... I think it's really dire and I think it's going to get a hell of a lot worse. Well, there's another thing that is not being covered. So I at least have to play the clip on Iraq riots unreported because i still think the Charlie Sheen thing was basically besides being cheap material was a cover-up for the fact that there are major riots and they show a lot of clips on this by the way you can't see it on the show course and we're talking about makes the Egypt riots and by the way the town square has exact same name sorry it makes the in in baghdad into makes the egypt riots look ridiculously tame and this is going on all over iraq nobody is talking about in the main media we had to pull it down from a the left-wing show democracy now democracy now war and peace report democracy not dot org you know that i'm amy goodman uh... goodman democracy now war and peace report which on cd warwick

2:03:33 So anyway, this report pretty much summarizes it. Well the US has sharply criticized Libya for brutally cracking down on protesters that's remained noticeably silent in the recent attacks against Iraqi dissidents On Friday tens of thousands of protesters participated in Iraq largest protests in years They demanded an end to corruption shortages and jobs food power and water We are free young men and we do not belong to a certain ideological movement, but we ask for simple legitimate demands that include the right of an education and the right of a decent life.

2:04:16 We are educated youths. There are a number of college students among us The government has stolen our dreams we are young men without dreams Although the protests were largely peaceful authorities fired water cannons, sound bombs live bullets to disperse the crowds as Iraqi army helicopters buzzed overhead officials estimated 29 Iraqis were killed including a 14-year old boy Deaths were recorded in at least eight places across Iraq, including Fallujah, Mosul and Tikrit. Then on Sunday U.S.-backed Iraqi security forces detained about 300 people including prominent journalists artists and lawyers who'd taken part in the rallies Four journalists who were later released said the soldiers from an army intelligence unit handcuffed blindfolded beat and threatened them with execution

2:05:09 They were held in a room where hundreds of people sat on the floor with black hoods over their heads. Many were groaning, their shirts bloodied. The crackdown comes on the heels of Human Rights Watch report that singled out the targeting of journalists as a significant and ongoing problem in Iraq. In addition to journalists women and detainees are suffering from increased human rights violations We turn now to Ed Girar, an Iraqi-American blogger and political analyst. He's joining us from New York. I ended it there because the guy is on a Skype connection you can't understand who he talks... He's a blogger? Yeah he is a blogger but they had some good footage that could have been all B-roll from someplace else but it was pretty interesting and I don't see anybody

2:05:54 except the left-wing media covering it at all. It's amazing and then it's actually you know this in the Greek riots which even the left wing media doesn't cover is just suppressed. So didn't we like go in there and kick out Saddam Hussein to make everything great? Yeah apparently he did a crappy job, so crappy job! And you know you can blame Ted Rumsfeld for the whole thing Around the horn to get Monation East. I guess they're working on their police state grid, there's a whole bunch of articles about how you're being watched over there and this of course is the beta test for what we get everywhere else and we've discussed this on the show many times apparently in the United Kingdom there is one camera for every 32 people. Now they got up the ante on that one

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

California Driver's License Test and Biometric Surveillance

Adam Curry recounts his experience taking the California driver's license test, noting the lack of a parallel parking requirement. He highlights the use of "L1 Identity Solutions" at the DMV, which captures biometric facial recognition profiles of all applicants, integrating them into a broader surveillance grid.

dmv· california· driver's license· l1 identity solutions· biometrics

2:06:53 Well, they're planning on it. I would hope! I'm glad you asked Here it is Unmanned spy drones and facial recognition cameras should soon be the norm reports Alright! It's about time! You know, I am now a licensed driver in the great state of California The People's Republic of And so I had to do my test Was it Wednesday? Oh yeah! Did ya park?! Tuesday. You know, I'd like to know if you could use one of those automatic parking cars which Ford and Lexus makes? Didn't even have to do that! I just had to pull over to the curb and then back up like 10 feet. You didn't get that...you didn't make it park?! No parking

2:07:35 No parking. That changed when I was a kid, I had to learn how to park! And it's also where you don't have to drive a stick... You know, I took Mickey's urban assault vehicle So in other words everybody every bonehead in the world that can't park is out there driving around Here's the funniest thing so There are two things of note or couple things of note one is man these people are arrogant dicks They all got wrap around sunglasses, because you sit there in line for an hour and you watch one by one. And they all do the same thing like... Because they gotta check the car tap on the brakes left hand signal right hand signal honk the horn show me your hand signals tell me what they mean

2:08:16 this was a trick question but of course I knew it was coming because i'd watch this happen you know, so you have to show like who uses that people don't even use the directional signals anymore in California they just turn wherever they want to go but we have to on the test you have to show uh... this is left this is right this is stop like okay and then there's all the other like too cool with their wraparound sunglasses. And I was nervous! I haven't been as nervous since My flight test I swear to God. Oh, man. I hope I pass this me a drive around and there's a trick And I almost got nailed by the trick question with the trick on the route So you come around this corner? and it's 25 if there's kids but it's 35 and then right after that that's one of those digital signs It says your current speed is

2:09:06 and I'm like, i got really confused because I saw a kid out of the corner of my eye. So and then...and I see and I slow down and I see in this pedometer it says 27 and then the thing flashes and says you're doing 35 well and I say oh really? That's what I said! Oh really?! I'm going to 27 and they just yeah well you supposed be slowing down traffic should be going thirty five is dangerous your slowing down that's not a kid It's a teenager. I'm like, he had the backpack on and looked like a kid! Anyway so it passed... irrelevant but again they've got L1 you know when you get your picture taken? It's not a camera it's an L1 identity solution that's the thing that is a big thing

2:09:51 They got to set it all up and you stand in front of the near the special screen, and they're taking your biometric face recognition profile Yeah. Oh yeah l1 good look on the website look at what is grimace Not a lot like take your glasses off all kinds of stuff L one identity solutions. Yeah Thanks guys another part of our military industrial complex was like wow Meanwhile, I'm very happy to report that cocaine dealers are using Britain as an international hub according to the UN drug study. The same guys who were right about saying all the Wall Street money came from drugs. They had another UN report that was just like oh well we know that and we're not going to do anything with it. Drug traffickers have turned Britain into a major European cocaine hub! Vast quantities of coke

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Commercials and Immune System Suppression

An Enbrel commercial is analyzed for its extensive list of side effects, including tuberculosis, lymphoma, and fatal infections. The hosts mock the pharmaceutical industry's marketing strategy of encouraging patients to "ask their doctor" for drugs that suppress the immune system and carry significant health risks.

enbrel· rheumatoid arthritis· tuberculosis· lymphoma· big pharma

2:10:41 are being smuggled into the country to feed domestic demand and export to Europe, warned the United Nations. Its experts found cocaine was increasingly the drug of choice for nightclub goers who were turning away from ecstasy European hub shipments have cocaine are increasingly being brought to UK before being shipped Europe blah blah blah there you go so it's no longer ecstasy John we're out We gotta get on that coke wagon It's about time See once again Charlie Sheen is winning He does, he knows exactly what to do. While you're on the topic of drugs I have a commercial Oh my goodness! You mean legal drugs? The good stuff Yeah the stuff that'll kill you Yeah okay What do we have This one kills you also this is a variation on another one We did before where if you had TB you shouldn't be taking this drug Hey if you got TB Tuberculosis Should be in hospital Play the Embrol commercial With rheumatoid arthritis it seems like your life is split in two

2:11:38 There's the life you live and the life you want to live. Fortunately, there is Embrol. Embrol can help relieve pain stiffness fatigue and stop joint damage because it suppresses your immune system it may lower your ability to fight infections Yeah, so you can take up that swine flu when we release it. Serious sometimes fatal events including infections tuberculosis lymphoma and other cancers and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred before starting Embrol your doctor should test you for tuberculosis ask your doctor if you live or have lived in area where certain fungal infections are common don't start Embrol if you have an infection like the flu tell your doctor if you're prone to infections have cuts or sores have had hepatitis B

2:12:21 have been treated for heart failure or if while on Embrol you experience persistent fever, bruising bleeding or paleness. Ask your rheumatologist if Embrol is right for you and help bridge the gap between the life you live and the life you want. Wow yeah ask me if it's right for you... It's not! Is this right for me? Well do you want to die then it's completely right for you. It's the worst. No we're on well we're on the You've Got Pharma Under the vaccines heading in the show notes, so they're still you know. They're still trying to ram through the HPV They've got CBS News The Compromise CBS News who of course run nothing but commercials for pharma

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Hybrid Super Viruses and Baxter International Approval

Chinese researchers have reportedly created 127 hybrid viruses by mixing H1N1 and avian flu genes in a laboratory. Meanwhile, Baxter International has received European approval for a new seasonal influenza vaccine. The hosts recall Baxter's previous "mistake" of contaminating vaccines with live bird flu virus, expressing concern over ongoing lab-created pathogens.

h1n1· bird flu· baxter international· vaccines· laboratory

2:13:00 You know, have all these... Oh you know it's amazing this guy he had HPV. He had cancer of the throat! Before he was married he had multiple sex partners. Guy is like 65 and it was sad so now his wife is like what were ya doing? The Rent Boys, the Cabernet. The whole thing is disgusting to see it And here come the reports just in time Swine flu and bird flu may team up To create a super virus reports say may team up like they're in the NFL or something. Yeah, well these guys are working on that to try and make it happen but they can't do it yet. Well, interesting... But you've been warned!

2:13:43 uh... as a part of the same series of reports i think it's uh... this is reuters because of course that is the true ministry of truth by each one and one swine flu virus is compatible with a bird flu virus that is endemic in poultry in asia and they can produce hybrid viruses packed with great killing power this is from a news organization but i thought i was like greater killing power not just great greater killing power now i love those who are there It's got greater killing power. Chinese researchers warning us about this past Monday, scientists have actually made 127 hybrid viruses by mixing genes of the H1N1 and the avian h9n2 virus in a laboratory and eight of the hybrids turned out to be more virulent

2:14:32 than either parents when tested in mice. So they're making it! They're literally making it, all that has to happen is... Oh I'm sorry man, I dropped this vial I'm so sorry. And of course what happened, completely underreported which we covered extensively on the show when Baxter International actually had this mistake happen they also were mixing up swine flu with bird flu it almost got put into a vac- in fact it did get put into a vaccine luckily before was dispensed to human resources someone tested on mice they all died and were able to stop that completely not reported at all but now Baxter International

2:15:11 has received the approval of the European Repeat Mutual Recognition Procedure by the Agency for Health and Food Safety for their pre-flu cell seasonal influenza vaccine. So walk away from this, people because these guys are mixing it up too they're all mixing up these things and then they make oh I'm sorry i made a mistake I put the swine flu into your bird flu and we shot you up with it It's just complete outrage. A, that they continue to indoctrinate us with this stuff B, that they're mixing this stuff up in labs like 127 different doses let see if this one works How else are you going to make money in that business? Well it's not by private money that for sure the Dutch government is selling off their vaccine facility

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Warren Buffett and the Berkshire Hathaway Rail Acquisition

Warren Buffett's 2010 annual report highlights the successful acquisition of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad. Buffett notes that the purchase has significantly increased Berkshire Hathaway's earning power. This aligns with the hosts' ongoing narrative that the global elite are shifting focus toward rail infrastructure as a primary investment.

warren buffett· berkshire hathaway· burlington northern santa fe· high-speed rail· omaha

2:16:01 Yeah, because the laws have changed. Dutch government has put the manufacturing activities and capacity of the Netherlands Vaccine Institute in Bilthoven up for sale following a decision to cease quote the production of vaccines under public ownership There's like no money in it. Ah get rid of it! It's over gravy trains over everybody So do you want to say anything about the Academy Awards that we went through all the trouble of watching? No, I don't. All aboard trains good planes bad! Woohoo! I'd rather talk about trains and planes for a second Well I do want to say one thing Aaron Sorkin is just a jerk Good okay noted well how about... Douchebag! We'll give him one of those That's better i'm sorry

2:16:51 Barkshire Hathaway 2010 annual highlights. Well, this is Warren Buffett's company and you know he does his annual report everyone goes to Omaha to hear the Oracle of Omaha speak and So they have the highlights We just find the first page here I have the whole PDF in the show notes it so Warren Buffet makes tons of dough I mean he's really, really good. He's always on the inside. Remember he put in five billion dollars into Goldman Sachs when they needed it and of course that came back to what tenfold maybe? Yeah something like that. So much money on that so here it is top of the list to the shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc

2:17:42 So per share book value of our stock increased 13 percent, very good. Book value has grown to a rate of 20.2% compounded annual that's pretty good returns in a recession The highlight of 2010 was our acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe A purchase that is working out even better than I expected It now appears that owning this railroad will increase Berkshire's normal earning power by nearly 40% pre-tax and by well over 30 percent after tax. Making this purchase increased our share count by 6%, and used 22 billion dollars of cash! Since we've quickly replenished the cash, the economics of this transaction have turned out very well." There you go. Rail is the deal... And it's only going to get better for him because everyone is on that gravy train

2:18:35 Yeah, well it's not that we haven't talked about this to excess. Yeah but it's nice to point out! It's nice that he pointed out that we were onto this. Right and so you know the high-speed rail they want to put between London and Birmingham? Why?! Funny enough...it will be a y shaped route that will run westwards to Manchester and east to Leeds before continuing on to Scotland. They think it'll be done in 2026, total cost 32 billion pounds? 40 billion dollars for a... what a waste of money! Yeah it's great

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Magic Number 33 in News and Finance

The hosts identify several instances of the "magic number" 33 in recent news, including the iPad 2 being 33% thinner and the DHS seeking 33% of its budget for immigration. A notable example is World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein locking New York City into a $33 million annual lease option.

magic numbers· 33· larry silverstein· world trade center· department of homeland security

2:19:22 I'll throw a couple of magic numbers at you, John. Magic numbers for those of you that are new to the program We've determined that the number 33 is often used as code To communicate through open channels Let everyone know that the mission is accomplished Everything's A-OK and sometimes it's just weird As we pick them up Of course everyone noticed That the iPad 2 Is thirty three percent thinner than its predecessor Which means it probably has got a back door in it Oh yeah thirty three percent of the department of homeland security's fifty seven dollar billion budget sought for immigration you want to code that one night can get getting i don't have it i don't know what they're coming up uh... karate seemed police during the last twenty four hours of arrested three hundred and thirty-three people accused including three notorious robbers each with are as old well with us half a million rand because ran

2:20:19 had money and recovered illegal weapons and drugs from their possession. Government operation, total government sting operation when you have the 333 and three notorious robbers that's a double whammy but my favorite my all-time favorite has to be world trade center developer Larry Silberstein locks New York City into a 33 million dollar annual option for lease Does it get any more disgusting when they just throw it in her face? I mean, that just hurts. It's like please yeah the guy who was like uh... The guy who bought the World Trade Center and chured the crap out of it just before it came down. And got doubled on the collapse! And made double the money on it Yeah he doubled his money Doubled his money That's unbelievable

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

George Clooney and the Sudan Information War

George Clooney's involvement in Sudan and his upcoming film The Ides of March are viewed as part of a long-term positioning by the intelligence community. The hosts link Clooney to the 2002 film Confessions of a Dangerous Mind and suggest he is a key figure in communicating state-approved messages during international crises. The show concludes with a final call for listener support.

george clooney· sudan· cia· chuck barris· eyes of march

2:21:08 I guess that's about it. I can't, i got only one other thing I've been looking at you know the most fascinating but the George Clooney thing especially since we got the note saying he is probably not a full time whatever yeah, full-time agency guy trying to predate when Clooney first started appearing on the scene as kind of doing a lot of spy stories and being a stooge I think it dates back to the movie he did in 2002 which was a witcher by the way should be on the list of movies to watch is quite for quite entertaining so the movie about chuck barris the guy used to be ahead of the gong show who wrote a book in nineteen eighty four claiming that he was a hit man for the cia called confessions of a dangerous mind i don't i don't recall this it was turned into a movie in two thousand two bike loony

2:21:54 who played, I can't remember if he played Barris or he played the CIA guy and it's very entertaining and at that point is possible the bears was in blue nose and he could actually have been a cia guy but it did but he was a hit man who wasn't a cia guy right because they had meant for the cia and apparently why he was doing the dong show and the dating game in some of these other tv shows you had to go off to europe or some other place to give a speech until somebody and uh... and this is how what cluny first got kinda into the scene well i think the predictions are to me a very clear george has been positioned way ahead of time uh... in in sudan uh... timing is impeccable with his newsweek article he's got the eyes of march movie coming out which have been heavily promoted by crackpot theories running around and now we're all gonna die on the fifteenth of march which is the eyes of march um... and of course that we see the him the riots as slowly coming down towards his area

2:22:57 but let's just not forget that uh... of course libya has a loyal but to sudan has uh... the refineries in north and as of the oil in the south we've had this at the election results haven't actually been uh... ratified have they do it i don't know what's a good question is that i know they would be relection was to split the country in half right so the people cartoon being there kind of dividing line and we need to be you know our side would have been the south side which has all the wells and we don't know what to do with it has actually been kind of suppressed i'm gonna we should be looking into a twelve standby because all that happened and george clinton's going to be on top of it and he'll have uh... you'll be communicating at all the messages that we want to hear

2:23:40 and that was the what they do uh... this is of course what we do on the show as we we bring you the real news we bring in news that helps you understand what is happening and yulchi laugh you'll actually chuckle as you see the next move in this information wars hillary clinton pointed out herself remember she's got her techno experts on the case and that let's logging yet but we sing in far see let's see what uh... what the next move is because they've got to come up with something spectacular i think the The Pan Am bombing thing is a long shot. It'll take too much time, they're trying to hurry that up with this you know it's like I don't think enough people remember or just it's difficult so they've got to have some kind of really horrible thing it could be these Dutch so-called Dutch hostages which we have from inside information doesn't sound right

2:24:30 The number of team members is off and of course everyone has their warships right off the coast. So it's just we're waiting for the I would say false flag event that'll trigger it all and We'll go in and we have some good does these a statue of Qaddafi they can pull down? Is there something like that, but they can show that it's over don't know I'm sure this got to be something yeah, let's be some symbolic or you haven't he's gotta flee the country I don't think he's gonna flee, he's gonna go down in flames. Well maybe if he's old enough that doesn't care you can go down in flames and hope he's a martyr but he won't be Meanwhile his kids have all flown to coop except for Shemp I think he's the one who got stuck around Shemp was always a weird one But uh... so hey by the way We're not saying Gaddafi is a good guy but

2:25:19 he uh... that his bffs turned on him essentially they were just waiting this goes to show us because as we got to get some bad with china and that's what happens you screwed up big mistake it don't you know where in competition with china were a competition with iran make no mistake here to hear first you might not hear that i'm cnn fox msnbc CBS news from hillary clinton it wasn't even us as we say straight from the horse is now Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. I am the licensed driver in the great state of California and a lone wolf known as Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I have no such moniker... ...I'm just plain and simple John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Sunday for early morning service Please support us with your appropriate giving level we'll be here with no agenda in the morning Dvorak dot org slash N-A