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00:00 Hey, I'll tell you something. These girls aren't underdeveloped. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, November 28th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 2-5-6. This is no agenda. Protecting the human resources from the wrath of ice and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I only have ice for you, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. And in the morning to you, John. In the morning to you all. In the morning to all ships that's seeing boots on the ground.

00:40 You're so like happy to get that out before I can that you're like stumbling over yourself and in the morning I blew it in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room and no agenda chat net as we roll it out live on this Sunday the 28th and I hope you're all Happy and distracted slaves charged up human resources the way your government loves you because that's what you need to be more and more and more these days So we begin with some bogus... Has this story ever been resolved, whether this is a bogus hoax or a... No, I did a little bit of research on it and I presume you're talking about the so-called Department of Homeland Security's ICE unit taking over the Torrent- what was it? Torrent Freak or something like that. No, no, no, it wasn't Torrent Freak. Torrent Search. Actually, like 70 websites apparently. Supposedly.

01:35 And it's kind of weird because it's probably the most emailed article. And I immediately dove into, alright, what's behind this? So the first thing you do is when you see this website that has this really cheesy, you've been seized picture on it, is you do a view source and immediately you see all these Google Analytics and all kinds of tracking stuff. And that right there was like, okay, that's weird. Why would that be? Red flag, red flag. Big red flag. So then of course you do a whois and you see that, and this is what's kind of interesting, you see that the registration of course it's masked but the servers, the domain servers that has now been remapped which is kind of the way the DNS system works, because it's not like this site is off the air, it's just the domain name now resolves to this page.

02:34 and it's NS1.seizedservers.com and NS2.seizedservers.com. Fogus. Well no, because I looked that up and I get the registration from that and it goes to the IMMIX group, I-M-M-I-X, and they're very happy and proud to talk about their multi-million dollar, in fact, Here it is, press release, May 17th, McLean, Virginia. Of course, fine spook outfit there in Virginia. Leading provider of enterprise technology and services, public sector, blah blah blah. Announced today, it's IT Solutions Division has been awarded a contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that's ICE, and Cyber Crime Center worth up to 7.8 million dollars. Under this new contract, IMICS Group will provide information technology, operational services and support implementation and maintenance

03:23 So that is the connection to the spooks. And of course... Yeah, but my problem of course is that the ICE itself, which has a publicity department that waste no time to publicize every little mediocre bust that they make, says nothing. Well, the New York Times quotes... But the quote is dubious. If you got called, the quote says nothing and they did do a bust in June. It could be confused. I mean, it could be confused. If you read that quote, what does that quote say? It doesn't say anything. It doesn't say they did anything.

04:02 No, but it was like a confirmation. It wasn't a confirmation. It didn't confirm anything in that quote read the quote to me. I'm looking for it. I'm looking for it. I'm not I'm not like completely opposed to what you're saying here. Yeah, I'm because I immediately had suspicions too. I was like this doesn't sound right man. Let me see. Yeah, I cite seized server dot-com dot-com which is why wouldn't it be dot-gov? That was my immediate question. Hold on a second, I'm going to pull it up now. sites and and taking them over based on copyright violation but not taking them over this is an interesting change they have uh... diverted the dns yet it will go so if you type in the name of this site it no longer goes to that cited goes to a site which is hosted carl hosting which is another red flag uh...

05:09 here it is about the the times they call anyway if the 52 uh... continue and this has become a big cause celeb all over the net all these guys are there's this is terrible homeland security and i've noticed a bunch of interesting propaganda that's targeting homeland security which i mean is that maybe if you get a target somebody may be a good But I wonder whether some of this stuff is just... Okay, here's the quote. New York Times. ICE Office of Homeland Security Investigations executed court-ordered seizure warrants against a number of domain names, said Corey W. Bassett, a spokesman for ICE, in a statement. As this is an ongoing investigation, there are no additional details available at this time. That's exactly correct.

05:59 court ordered seizure warrants against a number of domain names. That sounds like a true statement to me and I looked at... It doesn't sound like a quote. It is in quotes. I'm just saying it's the New York Times so you know this is the the Ministry of Truth newspaper the paper of record for these United States of Goodwill Nation. The New York Times, I agree with that but they're getting pretty sloppy. I'm just saying that Cori W Bassett, you can google her, she's all over the web as a spokeswoman for ICE so you know This does seem to be what... So it's torrent-finder.com, that's it. and then on smash.com and rap godfathers.com but it would kind of come at an opportune moment because there were a number of counterfeit product seizures in the same time span by ice which is what they do essentially. Well I'll mention this, they do it this time of year. Yeah of course, just when you've ordered that fake Chanel to give to your loved one is when that shit gets nabbed.

07:00 but i i don't know what is a for people who are connoisseurs of the uh... of the rolex watch home i goodness yeah uh... it especially the canal street version that you can obtain in new york city and go to the right side of the street uh... for anywhere from twelve dollars uh... for a uh... cheap copy to forty bucks for a very good copy uh... around christmas time Wow, John, we're not doing well today on the connection. Are you there? Hello? I know, maybe because somebody's surfing the internet over here and chewing up my bandwidth. It's possible. Could you ask maybe your producer to stop downloading porn? Mimi? Yeah. She's not on anything that's active. So I'm told. So anyway, the point is that the

05:59 court ordered seizure warrants against a number of domain names. That sounds like a true statement to me and I looked at... It doesn't sound like a quote. It is in quotes. I'm just saying it's the New York Times so you know this is the the Ministry of Truth newspaper the paper of record for these United States of Goodwill Nation. The New York Times, I agree with that but they're getting pretty sloppy. I'm just saying that Cori W Bassett, you can google her, she's all over the web as a spokeswoman for ICE so you know This does seem to be what... So it's torrent-finder.com, that's it. and then on smash.com and rap godfathers.com but it would kind of come at an opportune moment because there were a number of counterfeit product seizures in the same time span by ice which is what they do essentially. Well I'll mention this, they do it this time of year. Yeah of course, just when you've ordered that fake Chanel to give to your loved one is when that shit gets nabbed.

07:00 but i i don't know what is a for people who are connoisseurs of the uh... of the rolex watch home i goodness yeah uh... it especially the canal street version that you can obtain in new york city and go to the right side of the street uh... for anywhere from twelve dollars uh... for a uh... cheap copy to forty bucks for a very good copy uh... around christmas time Wow, John, we're not doing well today on the connection. Are you there? Hello? I know, maybe because somebody's surfing the internet over here and chewing up my bandwidth. It's possible. Could you ask maybe your producer to stop downloading porn? Mimi? Yeah. She's not on anything that's active. So I'm told. So anyway, the point is that the

07:59 they always crack down around this time of year and you can't get those fake watches. By the time March frame rolls around, although nobody uses watches anymore so I don't think that business is much. I will say that this whole idea of taking away the DNS, which is kind of a funny exercise because it's the one thing that US officials can actually enforce. It's hard to take down servers in other countries, etc. But if you look around the net you've got Nominet, whoops, that was nice, in the United States of Gitmo Nation East where they are pretty much planning the same thing to allow the police to take down any website based upon the DNS at the request of the serious organized crime agency. So essentially the same system and if this is actually happening it sounds like it's

08:52 you know, part of ACTA, which is exactly what this is supposed to do. Yeah, no, I know, and I know Nominet is another scandalous thing. Yeah, and then we've got, and this was actually a little more disturbing Because of course people are all over the DNS, but DNS is really the foundation of how the simple internet works. So you can just, you know, it's, you know... The web in particular. Yeah, well, it's not just the web, it's, remember when we used to have to remember phone numbers? Well imagine remembering a phone number, and we don't have to do that anymore, so imagine remembering a phone number for every website you want to get to. That's quite painful. It's not just the web. It's not used in, you know, I mean you can get around it, but it came from, if it wasn't for the web, the DNS system wouldn't be what it is today. I don't know if I agree with that statement. DNS system was so that we didn't have to remember IP addresses. That predates the web by years.

09:54 Years I tell you when we were using dot-coms It's it's not about the dot-coms is about not having to we were using DNS from almost the inception of the internet Well, I know but I'm just saying it there's never something we chatted about it wasn't like discussed in the yeah But when I was using gopher, yeah pre-web It wasn't entering IP addresses. It was domain names. I It granted it was dotnet and dot mil for the CIA fact book And all that important stuff we looked at but no DNS is pretty fundamental. So, you know, there's this open DNS which Was set up a couple years ago maybe four or five years ago and you know immediate hit people love the whole idea of

10:45 of having this open DNS system which is now being blocked by because this can happen at network level so for instance Verizon Wireless is not is blocking open DNS host host name domain domain name resolution and they can redirect stuff And they are in fact actively even time Warner Cable does that if you enter certain sites or if you misspell something It's not like you get a does not exist You know you go to a spam page from time Warner Cable that tries to sell you on some other places to click so it's It's the marketing tool of the internet is what I'd say

11:25 But DNS or... DNS, yeah, DNS. Well, yeah, if it wasn't for DNS you'd have to have everything be typed in. All the number, all the IP addresses and some of them won't resolve anyway. Right. Especially with IPv6 where the number will be 1 2 3 8 million numbers 9 10 11 12 13 numbers and a letter in there somewhere So I I think unresolved Although the New York Times would have to take it at its face value New York Times has a quote from this well, I know I'm just saying from this Cory W. Bassett a great quote and if it and I can imagine Corey getting a call from some reports saying, are you doing takedowns blah blah blah and she would say yes. Hell yeah! Thinking that they're referring to the June takedowns that did take place. Could be. Well it's one of those things that... Which is an ongoing investigation. Yeah. When it happens on a long holiday weekend and they're not prepared for it you have to really put some question marks around that.

12:29 I was watching CNN a bit this weekend so you don't have to. Oh my god. They had like the B minus minus crew and the teleprompter was continuously messing up and the tapes weren't cued up. Holiday weekends on CNN are painful. It's hilarious to watch. It's like wow. I love it. i just think some producers yes and it was a yes let's do that we've got to executive producer to associate executive producers this week beginning with the mac matt matthew shower as c h a u e are and winthrop minnesota and he sent an email in uh...

13:13 plugging besides he says that this shows changed his life at least the way he thinks. John, we are the life changers. is exactly a we gotta get business cards what do you have a life changer life code and he was the plug guide craft dot com which is a children's uh... furniture companies guy again school small schools and homeschooling g u i d e c r a f t dot com and i looked at the stuff looks like pretty good stuff i would by some is it wouldn't stop for is it gets all women love that yeah stuff that's pretty cool uh... john

13:50 I guess it's uh... grooming in Aspen up there in the mountains uh... he's also uh... with ready kilowatt in the chat room. Ready kilowatt your buddy. My buddy is a home of ready kilowatt but he's apparently Aspen, Colorado is and and he gave and he gave three thirty three thirty three as did Matt and i think they're building up to knighthood and then we have two associate producers uh... executive producers including uh... Sir kelly spongberg gay uh... who is a uh... getting another night for one of his relatives this week crack the seal on the earthquake machine donations uh... i love the show marcus couch is doing it with supports no agenda also goes toward another night for my family specifically my son dallas have eric let me know how much further money uh... we need to get the night who also a year thank you for letting us know the status of the rings and and

14:45 He's actually a black knight. I think Eric can actually do your tax return if you want, Sir Kelly. We're a full service organization here. We'll take care of you. Noah Cutler from Austin, Texas, 222-22, plug his brother-in-law's new History Channel TV show, Brad Meltzer's Decoded. it airs thursdays at ten eastern standard on the history channel and hits the secret history of symbols and codes in the mouth cool he'll be doing shows on the uh... white house cornerstone john wilkes booth in the bohemian grove among other things uh... any listeners will dig it's really you know how come they don't like this should interview us for that show technicians right then produced in in the camp for a year so i will look forward to that i think i'll check it out and uh... that's it for this week

15:38 Okay, well and no one no one showed up for the Created by credit that we talked about last week. Yeah, isn't that interesting? Well, I guess it didn't go over. Yeah, good idea We'll strike that one from the meeting notes I want to give a big shout out to Bubba Martin, literally back from the dead. He's back on the Cage Match over there at Dvorak.org slash blog. Good to have him back again. That's Dvorak.org slash Cage Match. Cage Match, I'm sorry. You're right. I want to say hi to our producer, Alan, who purchased GitmoNation.org a while back and has been redirecting it to NoAgenda.com. That's great for our SEO. I appreciate that. He says, if I come up with any great project, I'll let you know.

16:19 But in the meantime, that's just great to have that forwarding to us and then regarding the rings Which a lot I think pretty much everyone knows we've had an issue with a night down on the 1010 10 rings But also some people appear not to have received their original rings now. This is kind of the you mean coins coins I'm sorry this is kind of our The downside of the model that we've chosen is anyone can go out and do anything they want and choose to send us a portion of the proceeds if they so choose and And so far it's worked very well. This one's definitely got a bump. And, you know, so we want to do everything we can to resolve it. The number one thing we need to know as we're awaiting delivery of the coins so that we can send them out, and Eric the shield will be doing that.

17:05 is that we need to know who has not received what so if you please uh... don't email john and myself even though we've i've been keeping pretty good track of it uh... you send your email to shield s h i l l at no agenda nation dot com and try to keep the email short and just say here's what i ordered here's what i didn't get or whatever shill at no agenda nation dot com and uh... will write we're trying to resolve everything and i really want to thank uh... matthew shower and john grumbling uh... for being uh... this episode executive producers associate executive producers sir kelly sponberg and noah cutler you guys know the deal cuz that or some of you returning although i don't we've seen matthew and uh... and john uh... they seem to be brand new but very appreciative of your support that is the model we've chosen no commercial interruptions uh... but we do allow for the hollywood standard of

17:55 people uh... supporting us in receiving credit for that it's a real one to put on your i'm dvd business card in your email signature all the rest of you out there you gotta go out and do this please propagate our formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth before we start john last night i was at a surprise birthday party for rudy sarzo Who has played in Dio and Quiet Riot and Whitesnake and tons of other bands, bass player.

18:39 And his wife had said, you know, you guys should come. And I said, do you sing or play an instrument? He's like, no. Well, what can you do? I said, I got a cowbell. She said, perfect, bring the cowbell. Dude, I was on stage with like band members from ACDC, Guns N' Roses, Michael Schenker Group, Dio, playing cowbell to classics like Honky Tonk Woman and ACDC and this video. And I'm so excited. I did the dishes last night. Oh, hold on a second. Yeah, I'm living that Hollywood lifestyle Johnny boy. Oh speaking of which before let's get I got to tell you there's an update on the Hollywood Whacker story. Oh good. Yeah, and of course this is the Ronnie Chasen who was a very well known was a very well-known

19:34 publicist in Hollywood known for getting buzz going for Oscar movies that often would then win the nomination and I've always you know I don't want to bring her into any discredit or anything but I've always questioned how this works and I think that all of Hollywood whenever unless they win of course then it's like oh yeah it's all it's honest voting but when they don't win everyone's always like I don't know man I was kind of weird I don't know why that guy won So she was killed by, now there's a lot of, it's not quite sure if there was three shots or five shots, but now part of the coroner report has leaked out. Apparently she was shot with hollow point bullets and they're making a big deal out of this.

20:24 Which so that sounds like it would be a is that more likely that to be a an assassination attempt a True to to the head if it's hollow points. I don't know. I'm not an assassin. I have no idea I mean, I don't see what difference it makes I mean, I know one of the techniques they like to use are these you know 22 caliber pistols and they shoot you right in the head and a bullet can't exit your skull and you get a this was a nine nine millimeter hollow point yeah it sounds like you know like someone meant it is what it sounds like why they definitely I mean she was meant to be killed by someone yeah yes for sure why I mean that's what we haven't boiled down well the only thing is you know it's you

21:10 They continue to talk about, here, this is the CNN report, Chasen's work for three decades earned her a reputation as a publicist who could help create Oscar buzz for clients which many times ended with Academy Awards. I mean, the only thing I can think of is that she wouldn't take somebody as a client for whatever reason. I mean, they should be able, if that's the case, of course, they should be able to reverse engineer the problem. But I don't know. I just think the whole thing is weird. Yeah. Anyway, that's the update on the Hollywood whacking scene. uh... we do have a right this now i've got nothing by have a bunch of it could not have some clips from uh... i finally i just i just had one more to the head story which i don't want to overlook though the uh... co-founder of the libertarian party but it was this time this was over this was over the weekend i didn't know this yes david f nolan who co-founded net the national libertarian party and helped guided for four decades

22:10 while remaining active in politics as a candidate including a recent run for the US Senate has died. 66 years old Nolan died Sunday in Tucson where he lived according to a statement released Friday by the party. His vehicle was found off the side of a roadway on Saturday evening and emergency crews had to break in to help free him. He died in hospital the next day of unknown causes. yes it is this is actually is it's a in the report he died in hospital in its exit he died in a hospital it actually says the next day of unknown causes and they could have said of the car crash yeah but no I mean they had to use the jaws of life apparently but now I don't know cause it was a life you were in a car crash yeah but it's unknown causes

22:58 uh... that's a cbs news reporting that could have been a traffic wreck and then uh... we are the now the third largest political party in america says uh... mark hinkle who's the chairman of the libertarian party uh... so could be uh... could be a classic to the head and the guy was only sixty six so yeah but if he's in a car wrecking me come on well the one of the just a car wreck with everywhere you know i mean i didn't write the story i don't know how but it's everywhere they're incompetent nowadays what did you look anywhere about this story no one's no one saying anything other now it didn't unknown causes you know it's a bit more logical would be uh... he died in a car crash but

23:45 It's just not that way. I don't know it could be in it like an editor saying well boy died in a car crash Well, what caused it would cause the death? Well? I don't know he's in a car crash well I don't know it does one course trauma would be an easy one. It's simple Anyway, of course our thoughts go out to the family I don't want to be insensitive or anything, but wow when I read that kind of stuff like mm-hmm Okay, political deaths are you know, weird. I think there was also a... the guy who was running the gulf operations for BP also died over the past couple days in a small airplane crash the way they love it. Ooh, now that sounds like a two-day ad. Yeah, yeah. I'll look that story up for some reason. I don't have it on hand. But also, no media attention at all. Sorry? No media attention at all for that guy. Yeah, and you think you get some.

24:46 uh... so that's anyway so i have a just you know i noticed i was looking at the uh... no agenda nation maps which show everybody who's been absurd after a certain amount of my guess fifty dollars or so they should show up on this map and and no agenda maps dot com or no agenda nation dot com sorry dot no agenda nation does anyone have that there's a map for that. So I noticed that we got nothing in Japan except for you. We have a couple of people, you know, a couple of architects that are knights and a couple of Americans who happen to be living in Japan but I think generally speaking we have very low turnout so I wanted to, I have a clip

25:26 of the most recent, at least part of the most recent sumo results and get some attention. I'd like you to play that and maybe that'll help. Sumo results? Results. Sumo results. I know. Of the last, of the ongoing tournament. Oh, I'm sorry. I was unawares. Miyabi Yama over Jyuryoumen Toyozakura. Tochino Nada and Shotendo winners. Toyohibiki closing in on the Ju-ryo title. His stablemate Goedo with a fabulous basho. Tosayutaka slams down Okinoumi. Koryu clinches his first winning tournament ever in the top division. Thanks, I'm up to speed. Yeah, I thought people that might get us some more donations at devorah.org slash NA. It's so simple. That's all we have to do. It works like a charm. Or maybe we should get into this Alciakeda thing.

26:17 that happened up in Portland. This was laughable to me. You know, when that story broke, the first thing I did is I looked up the intel. If you remember in 2002, 2003, some guy that was an engineer at Intel was busted with his buddies because apparently the group of them him and about five or six of his pals after 9-11 decided to, on a lark, to go over to I guess Pakistan or Afghanistan to see what was what. See what was going on, yeah, like a little field trip. Yeah, they went out there and came back and got immediately arrested by the FBI and then all found guilty.

26:59 and thrown in jail and apparently the one guy was just the intel guy was intel semiconductor uh... was uh... released recently and uh... but he was in jail all that time he was in the slammer yeah he was in the slammer and there's no story of that follow-up or anything there's uh... of course i can't remember i have his name somewhere but every time Oregon comes up I'm thinking why does anybody do anything in Oregon and then of course the rationale is... If it can happen in Oregon, it can happen anywhere is what it sounds like to me. Yeah, and the bonehead that was involved in this fiasco. First of all, why do they always pick 19 year old kids? Because they're dumb. I mean, my daughter is 20 and I could turn her into a... It would be easy. Give me six months and I have her dial in a number. It's not that hard.

27:54 She can convince kids of anything. And if you read the... so again for those of you who don't know, and the way it was reported was hilarious. Yeah, why don't you give everybody a background update? So the news breaks that the FBI has foiled a plot to blow up a Christmas tree lighting in Portland, Oregon. and uh... if you just listen to headlines it's what ninety nine percent of the uh... of the human resources in the world do is like a whole lot i'm so happy the fbi saved us they for the guy was gonna blow everybody to smithereens and then of course we look a little bit further these uh... fbi agents and why it's fbi not cia i think is a part of the story he says there is a supposed to do anything on the honor of the honor of in the country

28:36 Yeah, but they've been... this guy is communicating with people... Why wasn't it Homeland Security is the question on my mind. Well, exactly. So we've got the FBI pretending to be operatives overseas, you know, they're... by the way, Google happily gave them email information. If you read the What is it called the the affidavit which is about 38 pages long just it's hysterically funny to read with you know six months to get this kid to finally like yeah I'm gonna go blow it all up and they in fact they offered that they met with him right and they recorded this meeting

29:17 This is from the New York Times, undercover agents in Mr. Mohamud's case offered him several non-fatal ways that he could serve his cause including just praying. but he told the agents he wanted to be operational and perhaps execute a car bombing. That meeting was unfortunately not recorded due to a technical difficulty. I mean, please. Please. Yeah, the recording... What a coincidence? I think not! Coincidence? I think not! It's just unbelievable that they actually have the gall to say that. So then the, um, so they, I guess they help him blow up a backpack somewhere out in the sticks. Like, that was cool. Hey, you want to do a really big one, son? You want to do a really big one? Yeah, man, I want to do a really big one. All right, we're going to set it up for you. And he's pretending to, you know, it's total mind control. Six months of working on this kid.

30:10 Who by the way was take the feeble might you know there you could probably 10% of the public in the United States is feeble-minded enough I mean you can tell by holding them that you could probably took if you get a hold of one of these guys if you were a couple of intelligence guys and You could start to work them. I think within six months you could get most of these people my anything and all the kid had to do was think that there was a bomb and So there was nothing planted. The FBI told them that there was something that was, you know, okay we got the bomb ready to go. All you have to do is dial the number on your cell phone. And so, you know, so the kid dials whatever number they tell him to and of course nothing happens and he gets arrested. And then it's a big story about how we foiled the plot and we had the mayor of Portland on television all weekend. Oh this is so awesome. This is great. Just so you know, you know, our enemies are everywhere.

31:01 This it's just not true and this kid was like a rapper. He was a fitness You know he was into fitness in fact And this is the thing that you have to get and I put a link in the show notes he apparently contributed an article about how to work out without going to the you know the horrible gym where women expose themselves Which of course I have to say it's intimidating to me. I I don't go to the gym because you look at these dudes like I look like a schmuck and the chicks look hot. It's like why would I want to go there and say hey look at me I'm a dick. Hi. So of course you know I mean I get it. Anyway so we wrote an article about how to work out without weights and not being in the evil gym in this web publication which is now being referenced everywhere.

31:47 called Jihad Recollections. And it's a PDF. It is, John, it is the funniest thing you've ever seen. I'm over judo, man. Oops, I don't know what happened there. Sorry. I mean, you must get a copy of this. You can download it. It's actually, it's hosted at archive.org of all places, which is quite cool. Hold on a second, I know what happened there. Somehow that preview thingy came on. I don't know. Are you still with me John? Yes, hello. Yeah, something like froze up here for a second. Okay. There we go. Here we go. I've got it now

32:30 this is fabulous mac it's uh... it's hurting okay jihad recollect jihad recollection this is the uh... the fourth issue which was uh... released on uh... september eleventh two thousand nine uh... they had they'd love to choose their dates and it's a full-color brochure man this this thing is it's absolutely starling lee the men behind nine eleven and the motives that bound them and uh... let's say let's look at the cover here and look at a couple of the uh... Couple of the cover stories that we might want to read The last moments before the world changed as narrated by Lawrence, right? I mean, it's like there's not Muslim people writing this it's like spooks like the whole thing is like a spook propaganda to suck you in FBI is John O'Neill

33:19 Quote, the great revival of Osama killed on 9-11 by Abu Risas. Letter from Michael Schoer to Osama Bin Laden. Hidden reasons for 9-11, US foreign policy in the Islamic world by Abu Bakr. Blinded by 9-11. I mean, it's 30, 40 pages long and it's got layout, it's got editorials, it's got letters to the editor. It's crazy. Yeah, what's it purport to be who's the purport to be written by and who's it purported to be written for who's it for? What is the point of it? I don't know that guess they're trying to make it look like they're you know do I is this like a terrorist? Trying to make a little a bunch of terrorists have a newsletter or what? Well the way I read it, and I read most of it is

34:07 is you know it's like 9-11 and global financial crisis. I guess what they're trying, what this thing is trying to do is trying to say all the ways of the West are evil and uh... Really? It's funny because our views are not very far separated from what's... So they're using Western art directors? Oh yeah, oh yeah, totally. I don't know if anybody out there, we should probably dig a few of these up if they come and go. If you've ever looked at a true jihadist site It is the worst piece of crap ever. It's been a while. Well you should look at this because a lot of what they're saying is what you and I talk about.

34:45 Like how the, you know, how the... I'm telling you this is what's kind of funky and weird about it is a lot of the opinions here are, well, you know, the bankers are screwing everyone over. I'm like, yeah, okay, I agree with that. You know what? I think I'm... The jihadists don't care about the bankers. But that's what this publication is doing. Why do I did we have to deconstruct this thing and figure out what what they're up to? Well, there's a link in the show notes at no agenda show calm. I'll take a look at it. You definitely must must look at that But and also have a look at the affidavit It's just funny what the lengths these guys go to if for six months they were just totally making this kid crazy

35:28 One thing it shouldn't take six man months times how many agents are involved I don't know a dozen to make this sort of a bust. It's just a waste of the taxpayers money if they got they got some guy like this on the hook just bust him. Right well the probable cause is of course you know they had to create the probable cause 19 year old kid my kids 20 These kids are morons. Come on, John, you know what I'm talking about. Especially with today's educational system. Thank you. But it all started with this kid's email at gmail.com. That's how it all started. And right there in the affidavit, we acquired his email. Okay, thanks Google. There's a reason why I'm gone.

36:17 Before you know it I got some guy emailing me like you know hey the bankers bad I'm like yeah bankers bad like hey call this number you know We hate the bankers, too You must deconstruct this jihad recollection we had that we had a meeting with mr. Curry who said that he wanted to blow up the bank Yeah, we did lose the recording but in other instances he we know he said this we were there But we lost the recording of him saying it, but he did say it and we also use it as a male he says he hates bankers now listen to the part of this podcast areas that there is a say it again i'm telling you i it's it'd be so easy but you'll be killed you'll uh... you'll bust me i want you to and to outtake over the show finally it's all mine so uh... okay alright so i think i was a ministry of truth great good job guys happy about that

37:10 I wanted to follow up on something, we had a couple of things we wanted to clear up. We mentioned the crazy guy from executive intelligence, who was apparently a Lyndon LaRouche stooge. Now this was the guy who said, was this the guy who said that all the kids in Afghanistan would be dead in 20 days? uh... yet no no that's the general that was a death of a former congress i'm talking about the guy who came up and they wouldn't know he was talking about the drug uh... the the british opium war right and uh... that is all that's apparently a little is a plug for a bit dope inca lyndon larouche book which has been re released it was released in nineteen seventy eight first came out i guess and it's a bit just a classic lyndon larouche uh... product which is

38:04 eye roller. Well the funny thing is, I read the original, there's a PDF floating around, and the whole introduction is thanking the fine men and women of the US intelligence services for helping them put the book together. Like huh? So well yeah of course they're gonna say oh the Brits are doing it. Yeah, if that, yeah, no I think that, I think you made a good point there. But anyway, we can take some of that with a grain of salt and go back to our original thesis that the CIA is involved in something. I know, by the way, I want to mention to people out there something that Eric just pointed out in the back channel, which is that we are having some issues with the 10-10-10 coins and if anyone's ordered them through PayPal,

38:45 you should probably ask for a refund because the 90 days is kind of running out and PayPal won't do anything after that. uh... and also uh... if you'd be ordered ten ten ten coins on american express you can just yet tell me give your money back well don't we wanna see if we can ship mouth first well i think i think we should get the if anybody wants to cancel their order other than they should do it now issue now is that they're not gonna be able to if they did a paypal but i'm still very hopeful that these things will show up at uh... i'm back there's nothing wrong being conservative and you know is reorder them in the state when they if and when they show up okay

39:22 uh... so uh... anyone out there listening which you got a few days usually so uh... on this with this week i did something i would end up chewing up a lot of time with uh... there were last month bob woodward who uh... i've now we can change my opinion of him and even though i you know the there's a lot of indication he he doesn't do this is either c i a are you telling me he's a a russian spy no i think it's just i think it's straight-up military intelligence Okay. He was on C-SPAN and I watched this thing and believe me, you should donate even more money having to put me through this.

40:12 cc was on for an unbelievable amount of time and within his chat with the kind of acute little perky uh... interviewer uh... bodies book obama's wars he brought her but let's talk about her was turned he he dropped bomb after bomb uh... in many instances some of the most he's just jaw-dropping weirdness But I want to say I want to play a few of these clips, and by the way have one two three four Five clips I could have had 50 okay, and I've cut these down as much as I can But first of all I want to start off by you know setting this stage for some of these clips by by doing the Bob Woodward odd Double-talk clip is a very short clip. I want you to spot the double talk and

41:04 At a pretty important crossroads of history. Will you tell me more? Yes, because this war has been going on since 2001. Longest war ever for this country. Right now, it's in trouble. This report released by Congress this week shows that it's not. And if you take in the back of the book... Hmm. Did you catch it? What I thought I heard was this war is in trouble, this report from Congress shows that it's not. Yeah. What was he saying there? He was saying that the war, you know, there's a lot of antagonism toward the Afghanistan war and everybody knows it's in trouble and this report, he shows that it is, but he says he shows that it's not.

41:53 It's just so confusing that the war is in trouble and this report confirms it by showing that it's not. And then if you notice the timing between when he says the word not and the next word, he just jams it in there. Play it again and see how quickly he gets off of the not. at a pretty important crossroads of history. Will you tell me more? Yes, because this war has been going on since 2001. Longest war ever for this country. Right now it's in trouble. This report released by Congress this week shows that it's not. And if you take in the back of the book... Okay.

42:31 This whole thing is... You don't think he just didn't finish his... He was gonna say that it's not like working out or something? Is that what he was trying to say? You know, I would have thought that except this goes on... This happens on and on and on and apparently he's got a history of it. it. And listen to this one. This is Woodwork, well, Woodwork, which is at GuideCraft.com. This is Woodward on Clinton Gore. Now, what she did was she got a clip from him in 93 or 94. uh... talking about the relationship between clinton gore and again there's some double talk in here this goes away back i think is double talk i think is an lp i think i'll get a little bit for a minute neurolinguistic program because you just confuses you to hit listen to him talk and he talks to the kind of with their can we're instead not as that stammer but the herky jerk kind way yet we should try that team i think it might work not relationship between vice president

43:30 Gore and Bill Clinton. Let's listen. selling and making the decisions on this uh... economic plan gore said to him uh... you get with the god damn program that's frank and candid talk uh... from anyone uh... i've never heard of a vice president speaking that frankly uh... to the president and uh... as i say it it's frank and direct at the same time it's the clinton's credit that he will let people

44:17 uh... talk to him candidly because the president needs somebody who will speak the truth you get with the program billy boy now and i here's what the question that immediately crop comes to mind he appear and i guess gore was relaying something from someone says look at what the program yeah Now, telling somebody to get with the program means there's a program. It's not speaking the truth. What truth? No, it's just getting with the program. Oh, this is a great thing that Clinton lets people speak the truth. What truth are we talking about here? No, it's just... If I say to you, hey, hey Adam, get with the program. Yeah. What is it? What truth am I referring to?

44:59 The one that the Rothschilds have set forth. There's no truth involved. This is like nonsense. And this is the kind of thing that Woodward does. I don't have a number of the clips where he talks about it's as though the White House is bugged. Do you think? What do you mean? As though? Of course it's bugged. They record everything. There's a couple quotes I'll put on, I have to dig them out. But if on the next show where he talks about well Clinton's or Obama sends out a secret memo that says this that and the other and then he said a secret this and a secret that. Why isn't this guy in jail? I mean if anybody else was revealing these secret this and secret that you'd think they'd be busted. But anyway let's go on. This is fun. And here's another one that's kind of weird. I've only got the weird ones not the kind of creepy ones.

45:44 but here's listen to this one bob woodward in obama office with book the dogs of war once uh... they are unleashed their hard to control sees his job is imposing clarity on the chaos of war i showed him a quote from one of the great world war two books written by a friend of mine rick atkinson uh... day of war about the italy uh... italian campaign And in it, Atkinson, who probably understands the military and military history better than anyone, just waxed eloquent in a paragraph about how war corrupts everyone and no heart goes unstained. So I handed this to President Obama and said,

46:35 What do you think of this?" And he read it and he said, I'm sympathetic to this view. Go back and read my Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech. I ran home and dug it out and there Obama says sometimes war is necessary but it is never glorious and it is a manifestation of human folly. Spoken like a true peace prize winner. Okay, so what you're what he's telling me here is he goes to visit Obama to talk about you know the whatever he's yeah He went in July to get the book ready. He had an interview with the president, and he's carrying a book bag with him I mean he says that I've widened visit president So I pulled this book out which I guess I was carrying with me yet He had to let him read a quote from it, and then he ran home to go dig up the Peace Prize acceptance speech

47:29 Does this make any sense to anybody? Oh by the way now I'm having an interview with you. Here, read this quote from this book. Well I mean are you trying to tell me that this was like this is a setup this whole Obama Wars thing? Duh. Bob, now here's another one. Now this one here that actually JC I have to say caught this and I didn't realize it but we've got a new meme here that I think Woodward was playing with. And you, I don't know if you... Tested a weather balloon. He was testing it. He was testing this to see if it will catch... I think it's one... When you hear it, I think you'll identify it's something we should be using. It's on the disconnect, I presume? Yep. Okay.

48:10 General Petraeus, who through much of the book was the central commander in charge of Afghanistan and Iraq, is now, after McChrystal was fired, just the Afghan commander. And he says to Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff, let me be, I'll be your lead sled dog on this. Emanuel says, yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's never that team building. where the generals are included, or some of the generals, some of the military in the inner circle in a way that all the cards get turned up face up so everyone knows where everyone stands. This is done at a certain distance now.

49:01 On the other hand, in fairness to President Obama, on the intellectual level, these strategic reviews are a masterpiece of Professor Obama, considering all of the issues, debating them, hearing people out. Mind to mind, in terms of substance, it is a terrific job. on the personal level which is often more important there is this curtain that comes down and stays down. Professor Obama! You got it! Professor Obama! This is beautiful! Isn't that great? That's a beautiful one, I love it! Professor John, you're a PhD aren't you John? Dr. Dvorak! Dr. Dvorak! We are making a talk!

49:51 a professor so it has is that is the point where you he was a professor we forget that and it has a demeaning it has a demeaning aspect to it yeah it means like you stupid academic yeah so he's that in yeah that's a good one so this is so it so it is a complete hit piece on obama but what you're saying is this he's not cia he's military industrial complex yeah well okay difference less less heroin I think this is heroin that's the difference. The difference is the heroin. So now the only one I want to play now just the last one and we can do some more some other time. This is good though I should give you more than my half of the money for sitting through all this crap. So wait this is the one that is a jawed this this next one is a jaw dropper I am stunned that the media hasn't picked up on this maniac just for this particular little

50:47 Did he that he has to say there's there's actually two things in here I want to discuss But you have to hear the whole thing out Bob Woodward on his voting If you're telling are you a Democrat or Republican and number two, I'd like to find out How you voted? I think it was in 68 and 72 when Nixon was being voted on. A fair and good question. Because I live in the District of Columbia, which is so predominantly Democratic. I am a registered Democrat, but I am an avowed neutral.

51:27 and to put that into practice I take my young daughter into the voting booth and she votes for me. She's now 14, we've been doing this since she was about age four. She's now quite informed and they let you bring a child with you in the voting booth and she actually makes the selections. She does my lotto numbers too by the way. Since she was four. Now besides this being a bull crap story if ever there was, not to mention maybe he does do this but it's unbelievable that he would say it. Peto bear man, he's taking her in the booth, this is bad. The other thing that I thought was a little piece of NLP just kind of slipped in, because I live in DC which is predominantly Democrat, I'm a registered Democrat, what is that saying?

52:18 You don't have to be a registered Democrat. Why don't you register as an independent in DC? Do they mug you? No, because you have no work in DC if you're not with the program, Professor Dvorak. That's what he's saying. It's like if you live in DC, which means you work in DC, which means you have a vocation, it only works if you're on board with the program. that's that's what i took away from it well i took away from it that he's an idiot ok alright let me just change the mood a little bit uh... at get more nation great white north uh... they've got a lot of hockey games and uh... this is a commercial that's been running uh... uh... on the uh... on the the get more channel up there this is their national news organization a commercial uh... for the national which is a big news a program their big uh... government right it's government run right cbc

53:09 Yep, the government Ministry of Truth listen to their commercial and tell me which word they're missing. So what's in a good story? hypocrisy absolutely anger anger loss sorrow sorrow joy suffering reward humor and consequence the things we fear the things we desire human weakness human decency those are the things we look for and We know where to look for them So look for us every night Seven nights a week on CBC News. The National. The National. The National. The National. The National. Alright, that's The National. So this is what they think a good story consists of. What word did you miss there, John? Well, news would be one of them. Or how about truth?

53:53 It's like, it's gotta be emotional, human, scary, frightening. Yeah, truth. Yeah, let me just, just one more time. It's really good. Hypocrisy? Absolutely. Hypocrisy. Anger? Anger. Laws? Laws. Sorrow? Sorrow. Joy? Joy. Suffering? War? Consequences? Fear? Consequences? Fear. Desire? Slave? Weakness? Desire. Weakness. Indecency? Shut up, slave. We know where to look for it. We know where to get that. Amazing, isn't it? I think Entertainment Tonight would have the same list. They should! At least they're honest about what they're doing. I like that. But wow. We should have commercials like that for all news. The word facts was also in it. Facts and truth. Facts and truth and news. Hey, hey, slaves up there in Gitmo Nation, Great White North. Good work. Yeah, that's where one of our producers, he caught that, which was great. He said it ran 30 times during the hockey game.

54:52 It's driving me nuts. I like it though. I think that's very very funny Hey today by the way, they're voting in Haiti John. No yes today is the long anticipated election in Haiti Preval of course no longer eligible for a re-election of course you know why Clef Jean and uh... was kicked out but uh... the main contender now i i hate to say but it seems like i can i have a crystal ball here let me guess clinton no sweet mickey martelli don't you remember sweet mickey no yeah we talked about him he is a of he was also in the former uh... is a musician any also uh... was on the guy yeah i don't know and they're like rivals yeah and that they became rivals artificially

55:43 So, Sweet Mickey Martelli is poised. So it's him, essentially. All of a sudden he comes out of nowhere and he's the guy. And Jude Celestin, who is a protégé of Préval, who's getting moved out. So I would have to say Celestin is probably going to win because I guess if he's a Préval guy then he's in, right? So they drum up this sweet Mickey Martelly after... I think here's what happened, maybe... So first, you know, it was obvious we needed a takeover. There's now 12,000 peacekeepers in Haiti, 12,000. And they're keeping the peace by shooting people with cholera.

56:28 I think what happened is the first like we need this place. We got to set up our hotels Clinton wants the casino Clinton Casino way and we need our offshore bank. They've been trying this for decades. Okay, finally We've got it Oh unfortunate earthquake in a place that never it hasn't had earthquake for 90 years and all of a sudden devastation and then we throw some cholera in there now which has been admitted was brought in by the UN peacekeeping force and uh... they brought the cholera in inadvertently or not they brought it in there admitting to it because it has not been caught doing inadvertently but what did they do it they have a bunch of good good cholera some guy in the hospital with a can you wear this blue hat how did they get into the river please this happened well this is a sense to me all that someone who uh... was with the u n peacekeeping this is what they're saying themselves now someone who was at the u n peacekeeping force i'm sorry peacekeeping

57:23 had cholera and introduced it into the population by pooping in the river. And they let him fly? I mean how did this happen? This whole thing is bogus. I mean cholera is not something you could walk around like you know typhoid Mary with no symptoms. I'm just telling what the Ministry of Truth prints that's all. All right, so I think what happened is they needed a shill They need a popular shill to go up against the protégé but prevails protégé Jude Celestine by the way at to Brutus and you Judas nice name Jude And so they tried Wyclef Jean, but his head got too big and

58:06 Think that's what happened. Why Clef Jean was like hey, I'm actually gonna do some shit here Oh, I can do this and of course you can't do some work I'm actually do something when you know and then you know, but then he got whoa, whoa on there son! That's not what you're supposed to do!" And then he was like on the jet, on the Clinton oil jet, and he's like got his suits on, and like, wait a minute, this guy actually might like, no, no, this is no good. We need, hey, who was that douche who played, he was on his record? Yeah, Sweet Mickey Martelli, yeah, good name by the way, Sweet Mickey Martelli. And now he all of a sudden is the frontrunner, like out of nowhere.

58:43 So I think it's pretty obvious what is happening there in the rigged elections. Do you think? By the way, there should be no problem with the people not being able to show up to vote because they're, let me see, they're dying. They're puking their guts out of cholera and no one's helping them. I swear to God, you know, you've said it before John, they should just, why don't they just go shoot them? Just shoot the people of Haiti. And by the way... I think they're doing that. I think that's going on. Yeah, they're doing that too. But it's not massive enough. It's just one at a time. And where's the video of all this? We had tons of video of, oh, we've saved another baby from the rubble. But now when the people are puking their guts out and dying of cholera and being shot by peacekeepers? Where's the video? Where are you CNN? Hey Anderson Cooper, how come you're not there, douchebag?

59:34 Pisses me off anyway, so you watch that'll be the outcome there and then Haiti will be saved we'll sweep all of the bodies under the rug and In five years from now John I will invite you on a fine vacation and North Shore North Shore of Haiti's the Clinton Casino on Bill and Hillary Way Maybe it'll be Avenue. Maybe they'll get an Avenue out of it and it'll be great, it'll be fantastic. And everyone who donated money and is just sitting at home going, huh? You should be ashamed of yourself. Shame that you're not like up in arms and and you're not protesting Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper's especially the blind donations to your cell phone Yeah, which the red is but they're still shilling for that on the you on USA ID Gov you can still sell and the money's gonna go to the Red Cross and the money's gonna go to the Bush Clinton foundation org Haven't seen their numbers either by the way still looking for their numbers to come out. They barely have a website and

1:00:36 Anyway, so that's that is actually my my pet peeve of the day It's almost good play it no no no it's it. I hate my jingle Your jingle is good. My jingle is lame. Well. It doesn't rhyme. Yeah, mine doesn't either so I got a couple of things There's just a little bit to clear up some more of the stories that we did the last few days last few shows i want to play the north korea we talked about this you have some in is some input from us from a source exposed source saying that the south koreans fired at the north koreans and that's why they returned fire yeah they were doing an exercise and so in the nhk japanese news service that took the feed from the north korean news service and reported it

1:01:19 And the North Koreans said the exact same thing, so we're just gonna, I want to play this clip to just confirm the fact that they were exchanging volleys between the North and the South. It wasn't a one-way deal. The North Korean Central News Agency said in an editorial on Saturday that any civilian deaths were very regrettable. However, the editorial accuses South Korea of using civilians as human shields by bringing them into military facilities. On Yongbyon Island, two civilians were reportedly found dead near a South Korean military facility on Wednesday. The North's editorial also placed blame on the United States and said it plotted the exchange of artillery fire between the two Koreas. This is Tokyo Rose.

1:02:04 Yeah, so I'll reiterate that South Korea was doing an exercise and they said hey we're gonna do an exercise over here So we're gonna be shooting kind of across the border there North Korea sent a fax Hey, don't do that! Then South Korea fired and North Korea fired back. But what I said was it was to try and distract from this legendary exchange between Russia and China where they've apparently decided to use the euro as their monetary unit of exchange for gas and other energy sources which will be completely circumventing not only the United States but the United States currency.

1:02:49 And if it's true that they're actually going to use the euro, then whoa, look out. Well, we'll see. Luckily, they've got the euro pumped up. We can just turn that around. Talking about the euro, I might as well play a clip I have here of John Bolton slamming the EU, just to, you know, even though he does this routinely. uh... he uh... it's a good to point i think that we should reiterate which is the e u is really a fascist dictatorship the uh... parliament that they have their does not lose john bolton again john bowles x u n ambassador who's always considered a big douche bag when uh... when bush hired him but we think that we played clips from before and his his his uh... analysis of international stuff is quite good in the and uh... straightforward

1:03:33 You know, we still in many states vote for judges and vote to recall judges. I think that's a good thing. I could see a little of that at the federal level as an experiment from time to time. The Europeans are horrified that we vote for judges. So starting from what I think is a different basis in many respects, now look at the phenomenon of the European Union. which encompasses virtually all of the domestic policy decisions of the member governments, conducted in Brussels in mass meetings of diplomats and bureaucrats from around the European Union with next to no transparency or visibility. And many of them not even elected. Certainly next to no democratic accountability on the part of the people who actually live in the European Union. The figures were compiled in Britain

1:04:30 some time back, and they're absolutely shocking. They vary a little bit depending on who you're listening to, but something like between two-thirds and 90% of all the legislation that Parliament passes today is simply enacting into UK law decisions that have already been made in Brussels. Now that is phenomenal. And in other countries I'm sure the percentage is roughly the same. That's why in Europe today they talk about the democratic deficit because none of the members of the so-called executive of the European Union are elected by anybody other than other government bureaucrats. The European Parliament is, if I may say so, a joke that has virtually no influence over the workings of the European Union and it doesn't look like that's going to change.

1:05:21 Yeah, can I just jump in here John? I'm so glad you you bring this up. So for two things I want to I want to kind of uh... yeah jump into here so one is uh... that uh... what is it like an astounding ninety percent of all uh... did all laws are basically made its starfleet command and then they're just kind of the taken and i understand by the various countries so let me give you one right now which came out on friday scientists give all clear for meat and milk from cloned cattle it's now safe and uh... this of course has been approved by uh...

1:04:30 some time back, and they're absolutely shocking. They vary a little bit depending on who you're listening to, but something like between two-thirds and 90% of all the legislation that Parliament passes today is simply enacting into UK law decisions that have already been made in Brussels. Now that is phenomenal. And in other countries I'm sure the percentage is roughly the same. That's why in Europe today they talk about the democratic deficit because none of the members of the so-called executive of the European Union are elected by anybody other than other government bureaucrats. The European Parliament is, if I may say so, a joke that has virtually no influence over the workings of the European Union and it doesn't look like that's going to change.

1:05:21 Yeah, can I just jump in here John? I'm so glad you you bring this up. So for two things I want to I want to kind of uh... yeah jump into here so one is uh... that uh... what is it like an astounding ninety percent of all uh... did all laws are basically made its starfleet command and then they're just kind of the taken and i understand by the various countries so let me give you one right now which came out on friday scientists give all clear for meat and milk from cloned cattle it's now safe and uh... this of course has been approved by uh...

1:06:02 the Brussels by Brussels is that everyone in Britain in Gitmo Nation East can now drink milk and eat meat from genetically modified beasts. Well these aren't genetically but I guess they would be. If you're a clone there might, what do you mean? A clone is not the same as modified it's just a clone. Yeah modified to be not new and an individual but to be the same so yeah come on it's that's modification all right it's freaky let's put it that way And then Barroso is in... And why? Why? Because... I mean, wait a minute. I mean, it's so easy for a cow to have more... to create cows. Why would you go through this rigmarole to clone cattle and then legalize the milk? It doesn't make any sense. It's stupid. Well, let's read... It's obviously to benefit some cloning company. Well, let's read what the article says.

1:06:58 So first of all, Andrew Wage, chief scientist at the Food Standards Agency. The committee has confirmed that meat and milk from cloned cattle and offspring shows no substantial difference. Oh wow, words matter. No substantial is not the same as no. Right. No substantial difference to conventionally produced meat and milk, therefore is unlikely to present a food... Unlikely. That's great. uh... let's see if they say why this is good the allies is good i'm looking at i'm reading and speed reading for the article on this operation is the u operation invites so much corruption that is just it's mind-boggling and the fact that the public of europe is putting up with this i although i'd wonder how much they are putting up with it but they don't but the thing is it doesn't even have to be labeled this happening in this country too

1:07:51 But they tried to do a thing with BST, this bovine whatever it is. But there's still no labeling requirement. We could be eating that for all we know. But there's because there's no labeling requirement. Yeah, there should be. And what's weird about that is that the EU is all hung up on labeling. yeah well not when it comes to the nowadays you can't label they make a big deal like this we needs and some of them were uh... the scandinavian nordic countries they didn't do uh... jams and jellies from some of these exotic berries that they grow beautifully to the event berries grow better in these cold climates i mean uh... a uh... a raspberry from washington state will be better than generally speaking in one of the right but i i think

1:08:37 Just thinking logically, you know, even though they're not gonna tell us human resources why it's good to have cloned Beasts is because it's cheaper and easier to raise one in a jar Isn't that the the simple answer see how that could be doesn't make any sense to me. Of course No, because they'll eat dirt, you know, they eat Dirt doesn't cost anything to feed him. Yeah cow has some dirt murr I'm made to like dirt. It's like a bunch of really dumb looking cows. It's not that the cow is not dumb already. There you go. I mean it can't be anything different. This is to benefit some company that's doing this. This is corruption. Everything's to benefit some company that someone's in debt with. Well that's again, let me get back to the labeling thing. So the Swedes now, and they always used to put a little Swedish flag on their jellies, the EU says no. You can't, we're trying to get away from these

1:09:30 country this nationalist the crap so you cannot put the swedish flag on jelly our jams and he has to be with the rest of me ought to be competing equally and this is like this is the benefits and jam makers who make inferior product of course of course it everyone's got and i got some clips coming up after we we uh... thanks and donors but just that a quick uh... thirty second clip here from the uh... the commander of starfleet command borosso And he lays it out. I mean, he is now confirming what John Bolton just said. Complete confirmation of what the United States of Europe is really all about. The important thing is that we in Europe continue to identify now the right reforms and that we carry those reforms through with one shared goal, making sure that all our citizens will benefit from a smart, sustainable, inclusive growth on our continent. We believe that without fiscal consolidation we will not have growth.

1:10:29 For a very simple reason. Without fiscal consolidation there will be no confidence. Without confidence, no investment. Without investment, no growth and no employment. So to put the public finances in order is an absolute prerequisite for growth and for social commitment. Precisely because we want in Europe to keep what we generally call a social market economy. We want to keep a welfare state. So that means you have to give up your money, give up a part of your paycheck, that's called social commitment. That's a great name. Social commitment everybody. So we can keep the welfare state going. And just to that point I got a very nice email that I just want to read from Gitmo Nation Leprechaun.

1:11:25 Adam and John, thanks for a year of Value for Value. We're looking forward to our donation once we can again this Christmas as one of us is a government employee and we are now down 25% of one wage in Ireland and servants like us are being asked to cut services from old people as the snow covers the island. The country is falling apart here, man. I personally work for a medical device company, an American one, in Ireland that I know are selling defective product When the market is selling at a great price, I have seen this. We're a Lake Region Medical Company and I also believe we'll go public in the next 18 months. It's like, oh man, I feel so bad. I feel really, really, really horrible. And there's Barroso like, hey, it's the welfare state. You give up your money to the rich. That's how it works here. Unbelievable. Have some meat.

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1:18:16 and uh... the whole idea behind this real idea act is uh... essentially to get us all to carry papers which is something that uh... traditionally in the end for europeans like uh... what's your problem right because you guys have a history of showing your papers to the authorities uh... we don't have to do that in uh... the united states we have to give your social security number or to do anything if you get that to the authorities i don't think john i think give your social security number to anybody if you don't want to although it's asked for all the time And so now they want to have an official approved identification mark of the beast, which would include, well and this is the rabbit hole I went down, of course everyone's afraid it's going to include biometrics, RFID chips, all kinds of stuff. And Florida kind of kicked it off in the Sunshine State with the following report. I'll play, it's like four minutes, a little bit too long, but I'll be able to stop it after the pertinent information comes out.

1:19:10 An I-Team investigation now that sounds a bit like grade school. Get a gold star on your Florida driver's license and you'll be allowed to board an airplane. No gold star, you could be out of luck. It's all part of the REAL ID Act passed by Congress five years ago to help make travel safer. But as I-Team investigator Stephen Stock has discovered... Safer. Now, by the way, remember I promised I was gonna Play some clips that pertain to how everyone is just making money off of everything and wait until you hear the douchebag who's involved in this scam. What's really being beefed up are the profits for the identity management industry.

1:19:49 Ever, ever, ever. Oscar Perez can't ever remember being asked for a social security card in order to get a driver's license. Alex Hernandez has the same gripe. Over the phone I was just told maybe a couple bills, something with my name, my address and that should be it. Now apparently they want that plus the social as well. Providing an authentic Social Security card is just one of a list of new requirements for what's become known as the National ID Program, named Real ID. The 9-11 Commission found that the hijackers were gaming the driver's license system. Wisconsin Congressman James Sensenbrenner sponsored the Real ID law.

1:20:28 The states that refuse to cooperate are going to end up forcing their residents to get a form of federally approved ID. Under the law, beginning in 2014, people without a gold star on a driver's license or ID card will not be allowed to board a commercial airplane, enter a federal building or a nuclear facility. I just had an idea, John. Why don't we sew a gold star onto our clothing? There you go! That's an idea! It should be a six-pointed star. Yeah, a six-pointed star on my vest. It just hit me. What a great idea! Only a passport that costs more than $100 will be used as an acceptable substitute. First of all, we set up a system where a state DMV would have to check against other states... Now wait for it, wait for it. You're gonna love this. ...databases.

1:21:22 and secondly they restricted drivers licenses only to people who are legally present in the United States. This is an attempt at standardizing. all 50 states drivers licenses Florida Senator Bill Nelson supports the concept of Real ID while acknowledging its personal privacy concerns that will help when you're checking somebody's ID to see if they are who they say they are there's just one problem only 15 states have met this year's deadline to adopt Real ID 27 of the states have passed laws or resolutions against Real ID eight more states have done nothing

1:22:01 It becomes like a permission slip from school. Chris Calabrese serves as legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union in Washington, D.C. Where things you used to be able to do as a free American, like vote and work, Now suddenly you've got to get permission from the government to do those things through a national ID card. But it's not the federal government, it's individual states that are collecting your personal information. And for the most part, those states are relying on private corporations to collect the data. Does that raise even more troubling issues? It does. I mean, for the private corporations, this is like surveillance on steroids.

1:22:38 because they use it to make money. And we're talking big money. The Department of Homeland Security estimates it will eventually cost nearly 10 billion dollars to implement RealID nationwide. According to the US Senate Office of Public Records, the list of private companies wanting to participate in Real ID skyrocketed from 15 in 2001 to nearly 900 last year. Now who could be a part of this? One of the leading companies benefiting from all this is L1 Identity Solutions. We're suggesting by putting this card in front of someone that we are who we claim to be. Former Coast Guard Commandant and Homeland Security Deputy Secretary James Loy was the first director of TSA.

1:23:19 Law now serves on l1's board of directors. Oh, I love this It took me like a couple minutes to get to the to the beauty part But here is a former Homeland Security officer gitmo nation shut up slave worker and I think after six months he left to serve on the board of this company that's now turning around and selling shit to us slaves. Now listen to his clarification and his reasoning behind how cool this and okay it is to do this. Our challenge is to make certain that in this public utilization of that data, it is protected. Six months after the REAL ID Act was signed into law, Loy left the government and now, as an L1 board member, makes money off the very program he helped create. That's absolutely perfectly legitimate and if I can help them do that and the shareholders of the company are beneficiaries as a result, so be it. That's part of a good American economic way of doing business. That's right.

1:24:20 Capitalism at its best. That's capitalism for you. Play the douchebag thing. It's unbelievable. Douchebag! Unbelievable. So I'm like L1 huh? Sounds a lot like L3 doesn't it? So I figure I'll go look at L1. What is this company all about? Because of course, you know, this is where the news breaks down. The news ain't gonna go any further than that. We've got to move on to some drama and some blood and you know local, you know, Riley Cyrus. There you go. Who had a horrible dress on according to the fashion police. Oh, just dreadful. Just dreadful. Yes. Oh, by the way, Sarah Jessica Parker, just horrible shoes. So then the biometrics task force, there's like a porn gathering.

1:25:03 Which is that the government is there and it's all and it's just this this website Which is linked in the show notes at no agenda show calm is it's it's just unbelievable when When you see all I mean this video There's all kinds of different companies selling stuff and here's this woman. I think on behalf of l1 issue must be part of the Well, let's listen to the clip. I'm not going to play all of it, but you'll get the idea as to what the actual plan is. Now, you've just heard the way they do it is they set it up. We'll set up some ideas in government. We'll pass a couple of laws. Then we leave to go help out the company and shepherd the contracts in and make a bundle. It's all about money, not about your safety, your security, or mine.

1:25:49 By the way, this is a promotional video for L1. I'm telling you, L1 is great! They're gonna track your every single move. Your face, your palm, your ass. We've got it all. And I've gotta tell ya, L1 Communications, they are the future! Shit, the intro was longer than I expected. Sorry. Hi, this is Zach Martin, editor of Regarding ID Magazine and thirdfactor.com at the Biometrics Consortium Conference in Tampa. Today we spoke with Lisa Swan of the Biometric Task Force about how the DoD is using biometrics in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan. So again, you just got to wait for a minute as she talks about, yeah, theater, Iraq, Afghanistan, but then all of a sudden the monkey comes out of the sleeve, as we say in the Netherlands. Fennheit, again, are two of the systems that we're using, and they are the most prevalent systems in theater.

1:26:41 Both can be used for verification. For identification, typically when we're enrolling someone, we will use something like the bat has more capability. The bat. And they have this logo of a bat, John. It's awesome. And by the way, this is for enrollment. Notice the the fine use of the word enrollment. I like that. Yeah, very good. Yeah, you enroll six effort Yeah, because you can enroll someone into prison But you can enroll them into school or other or Boy Scouts for all I care. However hide also can be used hide H I ID The hide the difference with the hide is that it is a handheld it can be taken a lot of places that the bat really isn't practical and

1:27:21 The downside is the hide has to plug into the bat to download its records and to upload its watch listing capabilities. So both can be used for both applications. It just depends really on what you're trying to do and where in terms of which you would choose. And actually hide and bat the biometrics automated tool set are biometrics automated tool set John. This is what it's all about We've got to get our biometrics and by the way There's a reason I believe when you're in the scanner that you have to face one certain way and hold your hands up with your palms out Against the the scanner. I believe that they're taking your palm biometrics. There's no other reason for you to have to do that Is there?

1:28:01 I can't think of any. So and we know that there's you know there's some reports of them saving facial pictures of course they could just take a picture of you but no I think that there's the biometrics are being tracked in these scanners. The two most prevalent systems that we're using in theater today but with there are other systems. In theater. In theater. It's in theater but that's about to change. As well. And we use them for a variety of applications. We use them for taking biometrics from detainees, for example, to record their information so we can tell if we have encountered these people before. We also use biometrics to verify the identity of individuals. Is this person who they claim to be? And an example of that would be for someone who is a non-US citizen but working on a US facility.

1:28:46 Their biometric credential says, yes, this person is who they claim to be. We know them, they're vetted, and they're okay to be in this place. So those are two examples. We also use biometrics for, I'm sorry, not detaining operations, but... Standby. Checkpoints. Checkpoint. As someone is entering an area perhaps or... Sounds a lot like those TSA checkpoints. Random checks. Again, it's do we know this person? Have we encountered them before? Or is this person who they claim to be just a verification? As you know, biometrics have been around for a long time. Oh yeah. And fingerprints have been the... Oh yeah, you know that. Hey slave, you know that. It's been around for a long time. Shut up slave. You know this. This is nothing new. The method of choice, if you will. Who is this woman? She's with the Department of Defense. She's with the military. But listen to what she's about to say. She's about to blow your mind. ...into other modalities. We're now certainly using a lot of iris.

1:29:39 We're using palm, facial, moving toward DNA. And so we'll continue to... It's all the things that are being introduced into the civilian life right now. Palm, fingerprints, DNA, all that, checkpoints, it's all... This is words that we use today in our civilian security. ...explore and embrace new modalities and also to look at biometrics at a distance. How can we do things further away? How can we do things less intrusively? How can we do them cheaper? How can we do them faster? You know, the old adage of faster, better, cheaper. But it really does apply.

1:30:19 As funding starts to come down, the systems have to be more cost effective and also they have to be able to scale to handle a very large population. A very large population, John. We're not talking about prisons here I don't think, do you? A very large population. population be? So I think you'll see us moving in that direction in terms of the technology and also the policy to allow us to use biometrics across a variety of fronts. Ah, the technology and the legal framework here to use this technology across a variety of fronts. Ooh, I'm getting chills. Our focus to date has been mostly on the military application side.

1:30:58 But I believe where we're headed for the future is on the friendly side, using biometrics to support services to enable applications like access to financial records. Oh, right, of course, friendly, access to financial records. Access to medical services. Oh, medical services, like the Obama health care bill. For our U.S. population. Our U.S. population, thank you. Three minutes and 33 seconds to get to that point, but there it is. Our US population. Thank you very much. That's what it's all about. Well, congratulations to the 27 states who are resisting this so far. Yeah, California, unfortunately not one of them. California's in on the game. Stupid. Well, it's a bunch of Democrats. What do you expect?

1:31:40 Anyway, so then there's a... When do Democrats become these pushovers for government intrusion? They actually... You know, when... Did I mention the Sinclair Lewis story last show? I don't think so. Sinclair Lewis was a very famous writer who wrote The Jungle and everybody has to read that book at least once in their life. The Jungle? yeah the jungle it's about the the meatpacking industry in chicago ok this is one for the one club this one for the book club i've not read this book was good the jungle yes the jungle so uh... sinclair lewis is a socialist and it would itself publish a lot of books and is very interesting character and he ran for governor of california almost one and the uh... special that's now on the tcm moguls in hollywood uh... talk about the fact that it was actually the hollywood uh... folks

1:32:29 that derailed his campaign because he was on his way to becoming governor of california and the and his main focus uh... was to repeal the state sales tax so i'm wondering how the democrats socialists and progressives or whatever went from being this anti taxation you know freedom of speech freedom of this freedom of that uh... liberty the whole thing to being if you talk to a democrat today they they they will tell you the aston that we should increase the taxes we want more taxes i mean who does that it me what i did that i did the democrats go from b coming are being a very libertarian in their outlook and and against taxes to being pro taxation going along with the program itself i can answer that question happened it's really easy

1:33:18 because they know all they have to do is get the taxes, raise the money, then leave the government, go to a private organization and go get the money that they just raised. That's what's happening. Don't you see that? The Republicans do that too. Of course they do that too. They all do it. They all do it. It's a bunch of corrupt crooks. The entire government is just peopled with these jokers and the fact that this guy would be going for and then to rationalize, yeah I was in L1, I helped pass a law and I went over and nobody thinks that and there's no corruption investigation over this and then meanwhile we have Chris Matthews jumping all over this woman on the last show, I would recommend listening to it again.

1:33:59 where who just came out to mention that church office involved with this case same kind of scam yeah being on one side of the story pushing certain agenda than jumping ship and going to the at least he waited at least any bitches about it released a chart off waited a year and is only consulting this guy literally he was responsible for the legislation leaves after six months and is on the board of a company actually is proud of it that's the american way does the capital system at its best That's what he says. It's absolutely not true. It's not as the capitalists system at its worst That's unbelievable. Okay. Anyway, John I got some great news for you There's a website there's a website for us there's a website and You know science has come under severe distress recently by the way back up a second. Oh

1:34:52 Did I say, I said Upton Sinclair didn't I? Or did I say Sinclair Lewis? Sinclair Lewis. It's Upton Sinclair. I'm sorry, I always confuse those two names. I would go back up. It's Upton Sinclair who ran for governor and Upton Sinclair who wrote The Jungle. Sorry. Upton Sinclair. We will, we will strike that from the record. Yeah, it's embarrassing. Not as embarrassing as the website sciencecheerleader.com. I suggest you surf to that right now, sciencecheerleader.com. uh... because of course science is uh... has a bad rap really really bad rap because science is now of course equated to guys who uh... ally and make up shit to uh... pretend that the world is overheating and now we've got hot chicks to take over from them

1:35:47 I cheered for the Houston Texans in 2005, 6 and 7. I have a bachelor's science degree in aerospace engineering from Wichita State University and I currently work at NASA's Johnson Space Center as an engineer. So this website is nothing but hot chicks who are all scientists. It is awesome! I'm telling you! Listen, there are a couple more and by the way... She sounds like a dipshit. They're hot, they're great, they're cheerleaders and they're smart. I come from a family of science. My dad was a chemist. Oh, I just remember being a little girl and my parents asked me what I wanted for Christmas and I said a microscope set. A microscope set. From a little girl I remember my mom, she was a registered nurse. She really made a difference in the lives of the patients and I knew from right then that I wanted to work in healthcare. What did you want to be? A doctor. Notice how they moved from science to healthcare.

1:36:42 I am a former Washington Redskins cheerleader. I got an undergrad degree in molecular biology. I worked at the NIH for a couple years. Then I went to law school at Georgetown University. I was a patent attorney. And after that, I went to medical school at George Washington University. And I moved to Houston, Texas and did an internship in general surgery. And now I'm an emergency medicine doctor in Houston, Texas. Unbelievable I mean I for one thing I like to know who these people are so I can avoid them I sure don't want her as my doctor. Were you kidding me? I'm like oh excuse me. Yeah, maybe give you an exam if you know what I mean, but they decide the point I mean she's a fast talking she sounds stupid

1:37:24 These people are this their scientists. We're supposed to we're breaking through the stereotypes here John. That's the message so scientists should be fast talking talk like this They're hot Yeah, I'm sure they are hot. Why would they put them on if they were? I mean, why wouldn't they be? Yeah, well, they're here to help you understand that science is not just a bunch of losers who hide out and write emails about how to cover up their non discoveries. They're actually hot chicks. So I mean, it works for me. I like Scooby Doo. Okay, so I am. Hey, baby, can you bring your science over here? I need to check something.

1:38:09 I love it. Sciencecheerleaders.com. I'm gonna make that my homepage. You sure this isn't bull crap? No man, this is a huge... look at the website. This is a huge movement. Sciencecheerleaders.com. Science policy in the news. This is... NPR did a whole story on them. Oh, then it must be true. Then it's official. You know that. More Diversite Science Engineering. Yeah, there you go. Meet Marcy, Pro Bowl Cardinals cheerleader and electrical engineer. Oh baby. I got some wires I need uncrossed. Sciencecheerleaders.com. I'm not getting it.

1:38:46 Yeah, www... Is there a dash in there or something? No, cheerleader.com, sorry. Sciencecheerleader.com. Well you'd think if they were that smart they would have gotten the other domain name. It's like a, it's a babe fest. I'm totally loving it. It's a girl stand, brother. I like the girl with the big horn standing on Adam. They're awesome. This is such bull crap. It's awesome. I am convinced and whenever someone says the science is in I'm like if she's saying it is. I'm in too. I'm in. You've convinced me. It worked. Science. We do the little. The leap d'arcy. Pro Bowl Cardinals cheerleader and electrical engineer. Uh huh. We'll do that little rap at the end that's kind of cute here.

1:39:40 I love me some science. I wanted a microscope Microscope kid or say microscope is a microscope microscope microscope Meet Allison dual degrees in bio and chem former captain of the Eagles. Oh Yes Well there's a reason for this of course because I predict these science cheerleaders will be on a national tour promoting the benefits of influenza vaccination. Let me write that down, you're absolutely correct. This is going to be one of these, this is a set up for, it's like Donald Trump is behind the whole thing. I hope so. So there's huge PR opportunity, actually we're stupid John because we could be raking in the dough

1:40:44 uh... the rent corporation just published a report uh... about their concern as the cdc uh... commission this report very very concerned that uh... there's no public acceptance for the science of uh... vaccinations and i've read the report so you don't have to i will uh... read uh... the uh... the pertinent paragraph from the the rand corporation by the way uh... a big part of the a military industrial complex these guys they think it up and then uh... everyone in congress does it Despite the importance of public acceptance, the science... Science, oh I just had a vision. Science. That would clarify the best way of informing and motivating the public is severely underdeveloped. It's the science that's underdeveloped? Well, how can indifferent or negative attitudes towards vaccination be changed? Hey, I'll tell you something. These girls aren't underdeveloped.

1:41:35 A quick look at publicly funded research on the topic of influenza and influenza vaccination made possible by the research portfolio online reporting tool from the National Institutes of Health indicates that over the past decade more than 95% of the funding has been devoted to biomedical topics rather than to social and behavioral science. The science is in! I would say these national cheer, the science cheerleaders, they're on the cutting edge because they're going to rake in the dough because listen to this. The RAND Corporation says clearly cutting-edge laboratory science to enhance the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is vital to public health, but it is equally important to understand the forces that shape public views about the risks and benefits of vaccination. Without this knowledge,

1:42:21 it will be impossible to translate biomedical advances into effective action so we need to get us some hot chicks with big boobs to tell you that science is good investments that enhance public acceptance of vaccination will yield substantial returns sounds like an investment strategy to me John in the form of reduced connection sorry Did I lose you? The connection dropped. Oh, well don't worry, I was talking about boobs. Investments that enhance public acceptance of vaccination will yield substantial returns in the form of reduced incidence and severity of disease as well as enhanced pandemic preparedness. A more balanced research portfolio is likely to be more successful than one that is heavily weighted towards biomedical research alone. We are fortunate the pandemic that just passed was milder than expected. Next time we may not be so lucky.

1:43:08 So here's the Rand Corporation, who are very important in policy in these United States of Gitmo Nation, saying we need to put a lot of money into, what do they call it here? Social and behavioral science. So I think that some smart guy, probably like the guy who started MySpace. It sounds like that guy would do this. Has said, you know what? I need to get me some of that money. I'm gonna go get some hot babes and promote science. Yeah, and have them give the vaccinations too. I'm lined up. You know what? That won't hurt. I think that might be... Put that in the prediction book.

1:43:48 Telling it and look at everyone's in on the game. Just just look at me. Just look at me here City Bank is now offering a flu care card to companies that will enable each of the human resources in possession of said card to get a flu vaccination at more than 17,000 pharmacies and retail clinics. You know, Citibank is not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, okay? They're doing it for money. Everyone is in on this, John. Except us! Except us. The more I do this show, the more stupid I think we are. We think we're making people smart. We're pointing out how dumb we are. We should be out there doing some scam like the government guys or PBS or NPR or all the rest of them or these cheerleaders. I mean, come on. I mean, how much of this can we stand in this country? Well, luckily neither you or I have young kids anymore. Otherwise, we'd be freaking out.

1:44:47 Adam from Grand Rapids, Michigan says in the morning, Adam and John, my wife said my four-year-old was playing a game on PBS's website and heard some messed up stuff. There's a game called Super Duper Antibodies on the PBS Sid the Science Kid page. Go to the page, play the game, it will take you about 15 seconds to get to the end and there is a payoff. And I swear to God, John, if you look at this pbskids.org slash sid slash games dot html, I swear to God, there's Sid the Science Douche.

1:45:23 And there's a little super duper antibodies. Play super duper antibodies! Here we go, we're gonna play super duper antibodies. And we click on that. And then here's Sid with a giant hypodermic needle poised at his arm. Come on Sid, talk to me. Hold on. It's the memes to get people to use heroin. I... apparently... hold on, it's loading up. This is... Little ladybug And then you click on the Now we click on the hypodermic needle which is as big as Sid's head and it goes, oh it's injecting him. Mmm, yum. You have evil virus thingies. Anyway, then you gotta like, get some, yeah you gotta. Now what, this is an NPR or? PBS, PBS. Thank you very much. PBS. Wow. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

1:46:21 It just keeps, it's just, it's every show we do, it's just one thing after another. We can't win. Not only can we not win, we're stupid. We can't win and we're stupid. Although I think that, you know, we could probably get in on the hot chicks dishing out flu shots. We could probably still get in on that one. I'm liking that. So I have, before you go to your last bits, I do have one last thing I want to get. I want to get this one clip out of the way because he was going to play it last week. But this is just for the people, for the people, for the people out there are following the Afghanistan thing and what's going on in the background. I just found this clip to be slightly amusing.

1:46:57 It's about what's going on in terms of negotiations, not the fake negotiator from the Taliban, but what's generally going on with the negotiations in Afghanistan play hack to death. by Pakistan and the ISI spy agency there. And then you have people that are sort of freelancers. You know, one of the most disturbing things we heard is that Mullah Omar, the emir of the Taliban, the Afghan Taliban, sent an envoy to meet with a new Taliban commander who was replacing an old-school Taliban guy, and they hacked to death Mullah Omar's envoy. These guys are a much more radical generation. So when the U.S. is killing these Taliban commanders, and we read about it every day, what the Taliban, the old-school guys, are telling us is, look, this new generation of guys,

1:47:42 they won't negotiate with you the way that we would. We actually ran a government. You may think it was a horrible government, but we at least have some semblance of knowledge about diplomacy. Do you think they have a 401k plan at Al-Qaeda? Hey, that's the guy you're dead. So he sends an envoy, hey I want us to go meet with these guys, this is a new group I never heard of, a bunch of young punks. Okay I'll go. Shook. Hey, hey, hey, what's going on? Here's a message for you. Oh my god. We laugh, but we're not really happy about it. No. You know, when you're just a few years older than me, John, but don't you just get like dismayed? Well actually at some point it becomes high comedy. I mean I'm already at the high comedy stage. Maybe I'm just old at heart. But I guess the only way I can... and I think that's my message to the human resources who listen to this show who sometimes get bummed out. You have to see the humor in all of this. Yeah.

1:48:43 Right? I mean... Yeah, oh yeah, it's actually borderline hilarious. Yeah, but how come not really? How come this is a little... It's sick. It's sick humor. Let me ask you another question. So President Obama got elbowed. yeah i wonder about this story myself what's a little stitches idea that's quite an elbow by the way for you go on with your theory uh... let me say what i think that uh... you know just off the top my head i'd play pick up basketball when i was working for the government's one of the things you do in your government workers that's the only thing you do what is that what you should that's what you should not be doing so you pull over to go play some games and you play and if you read meet a lot of different kinds of personalities when you play pick up basketball

1:49:29 or even with your friends. your friends are worse and there's certain obnoxious... Excuse me, let me interrupt. What is pick up basketball? Pick up basketball is when you have... there's a bunch of basketball courts all over the country and there's a bunch of guys standing around shooting baskets or playing basketball and generally speaking when a critical mass forms somebody says let's have a game and two captains are chosen and they start... then they pick sides. You're on this side, you're on that side and you go and you play a couple of games... you play a game for like until you get bored of it. and uh... usually full court which is really the most grueling thing you can imagine doing good exercise so but it is these people that play this dirty basketball they step on your foot if you're trying to jump they uh... they they help all you when they're inside they they they're dirty players and the only way you can get hit with an elbow is went to dirty players are button bumping up against each other and obama sounds to me and he loves this game he does only thing he plays

1:50:28 I bet you a buck he plays golf. That's not true. Oh, that's right. He plays golf. But I bet you a buck he's a dirty player. He's one of those guys that bumps into you. Yeah, I'm the president. Shut up, slave! I'm going for the layup! And somebody jumped up and then gave him the elbow right in the face. Not somebody. It was the guy from the Hispanic caucus. Well, he didn't like it. So my question is, do they have to rough up the other Obama as well? because we know we have to yeah and I think gonna have to do is other about hey bill hey I got a lot of bad news for you man I thought it wasn't needed until we do the Korean trip yeah no no give me a second hold on a second just a hey look over there boom somebody raps him one sorry man 12 stitches though that's a lot it kind of it kind of reminds me of remember when Bush choked on the pretzel

1:51:22 That was another one of those stories that, uh, mm-hmm. My favorite all-time presidential story was the original Bush puking all over the Japanese premier. I think my uncle was at that dinner. He said it was not pretty. How bad? It was not pretty. Yeah, so I wondered about that. uh... the only thing i i picked up uh... which is always just interesting is that she loves the bear b a r b a i r who was the woman who runs the f d i c uh... and the federal deposit insurance the corporation because right as of these are the uh... the folks that uh... say they guarantee uh... the money in the bank and i think that uh... she didn't op ed in the wall street journal

1:52:13 and I think that she is a huge CYA as we call it in the United States of Gitmo Nation as in cover your ass and she has a lot of ass to cover apparently. A pertinent quote from her opinion that she penned in the Wall Street Journal The quiet confidence of the American public in the FDIC's deposit insurance guarantee was one of the bulwarks. Good word by the way, bulwark. What is a bulwark? You know, bulwark is like one of the pillars, the most stable thing, one of the most important things. Word of the day I'd say, bulwark. B-U-L-W-A-R-K-S. The bulwarks. Foundation kind of thing.

1:52:53 that helped to stem the tide in the recent crisis and avert even greater economic calamity. I presume what she means is because there was no bank run, right? I guess. But we must never take public or investor confidence for granted. In the end, that confidence is only as great as the resolve shown by our government in identifying emerging risks and taking concerted action to head them off. Excessive government borrowing poses a clear danger to our long-term financial stability. All of us must work together now as Americans, look beyond our narrow partisan interests, and show the world that we are prepared to act boldly to secure our economic future." To me, she's saying, hey slaves, you're fucked.

1:53:45 I don't know. I can't say I would I don't know that I agree a hundred percent with that but it's possible. Well, she's saying what she's saying is The confidence... I know, things are gonna get... what she's suggesting is that, hey, you know, what's gone so far may not happen in the future. Yeah, but she's saying that... she's not saying the big stack of cash I've got here in the FDIC... Oh, they're broke. Yeah, of course, totally broke. The quiet confidence of the... the words matter, John. The quiet confidence of the American public in the FDIC's deposit insurance guarantee is one of the bulwarks. So the quiet confidence, what the hell does that mean? Quiet confidence. It means get your money out now. Yes. This was actually a warning. It is, thank you. Message, move your money to some place other than the bank. This is exactly what it is. Thank you, thank you for agreeing with me because that's the way I read it too. I'm like, whoa, you've got to be kidding. It's a hidden message. You have a few months, don't worry about it, or maybe not.

1:54:39 Well, I think 65% of next year's money is going to just to Medicare and Social Security, right? And then the other 65% is going to the war, and then the other 65% is going to Chertoff and those guys. Crooks. Isn't that kind of the way it goes? Yep. Well, okay, I think we did a good show this week. I want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA and the NOAJENDASHOW.com and click on the link there and make sure to get some people to listen. We want to thank all the $5 subscribers. We need to get a few more of you out there and we'll be set for a couple weeks. 2,000 more. Yeah, it'd be nice. That would be phenomenal.

1:55:30 So please, if you're listening to this show and you have not supported us and you found some value in what you heard today, if only just to drop a bomb at a cocktail party, and we also from time to time teach you how to do that without getting hit in the mouth, without being Obama'd. Obama'd. Professor Obama to you. I'm so sorry. Sorry Dr. Dvorak. What am I thinking? All right, I appreciate everyone showing up in the chat room and on the stream and we will be here again Thursday. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the great People's Republic of Southern California where I assume we'll have a star on my driver's license, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'd rather have a Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.