Episode 255 · Thursday, 25 November 2010

Radioactive Butts

A Thanksgiving deep dive into the TSA's holiday PR strategy, the collapse of the Euro in Ireland, and the mysterious missile launch off the California coast.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 255

About this episode

The TSA is executing a strategic PR campaign this Thanksgiving by accelerating security lines to suppress public protests while Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and President Obama push to expand invasive screening into mass transit and high-speed rail. Adam Curry recounts being disconnected from a White House press call with Administrator John Pistole after questioning radiation standards and the prohibition of dosimeters for agents. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has meanwhile secured a self-pat-down protocol for religious headwear, raising questions about why similar dignity-saving measures are not extended to all travelers.

In the European Parliament, UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Godfrey Bloom sparked a massive confrontation with German MEP Martin Schulz, leading to Bloom's physical expulsion after he shouted Nazi slogans to protest EU federalism. Global economic tensions rise as China and Russia agree to bypass the US dollar in bilateral trade, while the IMF imposes harsh austerity on Ireland to dismantle its status as a corporate tax haven. Domestically, a mysterious missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles is linked to a potential submarine fire control error, coinciding with a cryptic 20-day death prediction made by former Congressman Duncan Hunter on national television.

This holiday special features a deep dive into the 1861 origins of Thanksgiving under Abraham Lincoln and a critical look at the "radioactive butt" defense used by pundits to justify backscatter x-rays. Adam Curry shares his transition to a private MySQL email database via Mail Steward to escape the Google ecosystem, while John C. Dvorak questions the aesthetic "handsome fractal" of modern politics where physical beauty replaces policy expertise.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Thanksgiving Greetings, Reddy Kilowatt Mascot

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the Thanksgiving Day episode from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. They discuss the mascot Reddy Kilowatt, the long-standing symbol for Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E). The hosts exchange holiday greetings while acknowledging the live audience in the No Agenda chat room.

thanksgiving· silicon valley· reddy kilowatt· pacific gas and electric· gitmo nation

00:00 Your ass is radioactive! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore ahead. It's Thursday, November 25th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 255. This is no agenda. Well, turkey is an appropriate symbol for us as I come to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, sheeple turning into turkeys. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, the home of Ready Kilowatt, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! And in the morning to you my friend, John. In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea.

00:40 and all boots on the ground and to all our human resources in the chat room on this Thanksgiving day at noagendachat.net where the party is always happening where everyone is a good human resource charged up and ready to go the way your government loves you. The home of the what did you say there in Silicon Valley? The home of Reddy Kilowatt. What's Reddy Kilowatt? He's the guy who is the mascot for Pacific Gas and Electric. He's a very rich guy, because I know he takes all of my money. Well, whatever the case is, he's anorexic. And he... stop! He's a vegan. Reddy Kilowatt is a vegan, I'm telling you.

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Abraham Lincoln, Thanksgiving History, Native American Controversy

The origins of Thanksgiving are traced back to a 1861 resolution by Abraham Lincoln intended to commemorate Civil War soldiers rather than the traditional story of Pilgrims and Indians. An anecdote is shared regarding acting teacher Eric Morris and a classroom discussion where foreign students questioned if the holiday celebrated a Native American holocaust. The modern narrative of the holiday is described as a 20th-century invention that shifted toward commercialism.

abraham lincoln· civil war· pilgrims· native americans· eric morris

01:24 happy thanksgiving to you john happy thanksgiving everybody out uh... in the open and i want to mention they go to the blog actually there's a link on the first uh... uh... picture of the turkey in the bikini uh... public to uh... yet what link to the bottom thing so we understand that true did the absolutely uh... the facts about thanksgiving which have nothing to do with pilgrims in indians but a resolution uh... made by abraham lincoln in eighteen sixty one to commemorate the uh... uh... the death of uh... this soldiers in the civil war the first year of the civil war you know i'm making a list of some very funny picture by the way mickey was telling me uh... she was in her uh... in her class is an advanced uh... class of actors are so i just received a bad signal and uh... so it's uh... it's people from all over the world and the guy who runs this is a eric morris

02:20 and uh... and he was explaining uh... the uh... thanksgiving celebration to the uh... children from foreign lands and he was and he was the crack of crap i'm sure and he literally laid down the uh... because you know mickey knows the story because i've told her of course and that the true story like you just told it and he laid down there well you know after we could finally harvest something ourselves we sat away i guess better we sat down with the indians and we had a big feast And then one of the foreign kids says, well didn't you guys like murder all the Indians? So in fact wasn't that like celebrating the Holocaust? Eric Morris being quite Jewish was very upset. No this is not true!

03:05 but i think it should i think it's a vision celebrate the holocaust of the native american indian i think that's a a perfect way to celebrate and well it goes to what to indian and i think that's a good listening to what do you mean i'm i had a i'm actually giving the in native american indians you don't celebrate it and it's not like no way obviously uh... and meant as a uh... what do you call it cynicism since it is isn't that's what it is So anyway, so Thanksgiving as we know it really didn't begin until the 1860s. And then it still took a while to determine when to actually have the celebration. And then the cock and bull story came up like, I don't know, in the 40s or 30s, I don't know even when that began. I haven't yet to track down the day that that was invented.

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Black Friday Shopping, Kosher Turkeys, Homeless Outreach

Personal anecdotes regarding holiday preparations include a visit to the Glendale Galleria and observations of early Black Friday sales. One host describes purchasing a pre-brined bird from Kosher Valley after a local farm's heirloom turkeys died. The segment concludes with a plan to distribute leftover turkey sandwiches to the homeless population in Los Angeles.

glendale galleria· black friday· kosher valley· monterey foods· brussels sprouts

03:51 And then of course it really is just turned into a day of shopping experience. Or a pre-shopping, the pre-shopping. Yeah, you know nobody goes shop, why didn't people just go shopping on Wednesday? No, no, no. Let me tell you, I had to pick up a tuxedo as you know I rent them. Yeah, well and I'm glad I do because now I have to have a white one. So that would be kind of lame if I had a black tuxedo and I had to go to this white party. What are they racist? Yeah, yeah, it's a black face of course. No, you douchebag. It's the opening of the supper club and so the dress code is silver on white. You should have a silver tux. Yeah, of course. Every man should have a silver tux, but I don't. Okay, so he went to the Glendale Galleria Mall. Oh my god. In rented clothes. No, I went to rent the clothes there. But oh my god, John, it was packed.

04:48 Everybody was already in there because they do have pre Black Friday sales going on. Yeah, they're trying to move it up to July yeah, the whole thing is a it's just a crazy ass shopping experience. You know what I thought was peculiar, because I went shopping on Wednesday for the Thanksgiving, you know, vegetables and potatoes and all the things you need to have with the turkey, and I did get a kosher valley. Somebody recommended getting a kosher turkey, because I mentioned before that our heirloom birds are dead from the farm that we were going to get them from. So somebody said get a kosher turkey because it's been pre-brined

05:26 And it's usually a free range, the kosher has certain rules. So I got this kosher turkey from Kosher Valley and then I went shopping yesterday and I said, okay, I put it off until about three o'clock, I said, okay, I'm gonna have to do it, I'm gonna have to get into the vegetable place and Monterey Foods in this case and go shopping, it's gonna be a madhouse. It was empty. You know I went I went to do my Shopping yesterday. It was a madhouse. It was not dead empty. It was a madhouse Hey, you know what I got I got Brussels sprouts on the vine. Yeah, that's cool

06:03 You just have to chop them off the vine, so what's the point? It's uh, it looks like a medieval club. It's decorative, yes. It's cool! And it's like, oh that's how they grow, okay. You know, kids don't know that. If you said to somebody, hey grab me a stick of those, they'd be like, oh daddy I don't want to eat that, what is that? That's brussel sprouts on a stick, child. Yeah, that is with the chard. Yeah, so yeah I'm cooking too and I am starting at one o'clock. We got a turkey that's way too big for the amount of people coming. I mean, how big did you get? 16 pounds. Hmm. Yeah, it's only gonna be like five people.

06:39 Sixteen. You can have a lot of turkey sandwiches. I know. That's Miss Mickey though. Why don't you just make like a, buy a loaf of bread, make a lot of turkey sandwiches with the leftovers and then go out and eat them. And hand them out. Yeah. Hand them out to the homeless. To the homeless. Yeah, I think we will. I think that's exactly what we, in fact we discussed that very thing. Yeah, why not? Yeah, I think that's exactly what we're doing. There's plenty down in LA. Yep, they're out sunning today. They're tanning. They are. They lie on the street and they're like rolling over and tanning. No, I'm not kidding. I see this all the time. It's nuts. Ah Anyway, so as per usual we are here doing a show As the US Postal Service would say neither rain nor sleep nor snow or some other crap That's just of night given us in the morning. Yeah, I

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Episode 256 Binary Significance

The show acknowledges financial support from Executive Producer Norman McDonough and several Associate Executive Producers. A discussion ensues regarding the significance of the number 256 in computing, noting that the next episode marks a rollover in binary terms. Donors from Ontario, Colorado, the UK, and Australia are recognized for their contributions to the value-for-value model.

norman mcdonough· christopher sklenda· simon bennett· jonas astrum· phillip smith

07:25 uh... we are here and uh... doesn't matter what day the the fake holidays fall on because we really don't recognize because they're fake and that's why we're here with uh... with no agenda bringing so let's give it a few shout outs to the today's executive producers we've got one executive producer and four associate executives okay two of them being new people uh... starting with norman mcdonough in kirchner ontario three four five dot six seven pronounced mcdonough as a good job that yeah uh... for that was uh... norman mcdonough nice and nice numerology though three four five six seven nine i think i'm a short close last time now i wasn't happy thanksgiving to the great work

08:11 And he says an in memoriam to cranky famous I think you should send all of your guests a dollar away all of your guests who are on cranky geeks You should send a dollar now since it was an I'd be out to 250 thousand dollars Right Christopher or five bucks one of the Jews Christopher Scalenda Boulder, Colorado associate executive producer. Hey, it's my man. Oh to five six to help the exit which is today show uh... it's just every week every week i hope to be somebody gives the exact amount of the show number all that's a great idea actually yet to fifty six to help by an extra bit you'll need to store episode yes it's true because uh...

08:53 Right What it what is explain the bits in the binaries because episode 256 that's our final bit right then then yeah, right? Then you go to another Something rolls over another K of memory who knows Chris Galinda by the way the the engineering genius behind the big app show on Android Sign and he does he's obviously talented and talented smart and and and generous and loving yes Simon Bennett Ipswich Suffolk UK 255 Jonas Astrum Vindolin Someplace which makes a mess on my scream. She's great. It's great. That's the button I think Winston Winston Winston button $200

09:46 Greetings Adam and John from a snowy someplace if I could get in a note in the morning and a Toot on your train whistle when it it he wanted a toot that would be great. Oh and he was a lumbering great to read it and you can't be done as tps for that area on the new carolina do you have yeah philip smith frankston victoria australia two hundred dollars and those are your associate executive producers for the show and i want to thank all of them and adam will tell you what it means

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Dice, Campus PR, Propagating the Formula

A promotional update mentions the availability of red No Agenda dice and highlights a listener's grassroots marketing efforts on a college campus. The listener posted a counter-advertisement beneath a biodiversity course flyer to promote the podcast. The hosts reiterate the "propagate the formula" mantra, encouraging listeners to spread the show's message through subversive local PR.

no agenda dice· biodiversity· grassroots marketing· value-for-value· college campus

10:27 Yeah, before I get to that though a couple of quick PR mentions. A reminder that the red No Agenda Dice are available until November 30th for your pre-order at noagendadice.com and a shout out to Will Who for some reason the picture showed up sideways in my show notes thingy here Who is really propagating the formula? John did you see this email where there was a sign on campus? It is a college and said interested in becoming an ecologist naturalist teacher field scientist extension agent There's a new course biodiversity causes consequences and conservation

11:08 and uh... that'll be offered through winter winter two thousand eleven at the always you e-campus and he posted a sign underneath it right underneath it and he took a picture of it says tired of being another slave amongst all the human resources the sciences and biodiversity money hysteria and global governance learn all you need to know about biodiversity and he spelled it with the uh... a axon a and more at noagendershow.com live in the morning Sunday and Thursday at 9am. I think that is a very fine example of a local PR executive who gets it. That is the way to do it. Yeah, I mean that's total, you know, total grassroots cool stuff.

11:52 it's the what kind of subversion we're looking for exactly keep it up come on kids bring up your game yeah really we are corrupting the youth of America and we're proud of it so Norman McDonough our executive producer for episode two five five executive associate executive producers Christopher Sklenda Simon Bennett Jonas Asterman Phillip Smith thank you all so much for your support of the no agenda show the only way we keep the show running is through your support and lovingly loving giving levels And you can do that at uh, Dvorak.org slash NA. Of course you now receive an official credit. It is good. And you can put it on the IMDB, you can put it in your email signature, on your resume, and unlike Hollywood we actually will vote for you. Everybody else, just like Will, you gotta go out and propagate the formula people. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Word! Order! Everybody say it loud and proud now. Shut up, snake!

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

TSA Thanksgiving PR Strategy, Adam Curry's Disconnected Press Call

The TSA is accused of executing a strategic PR campaign during Thanksgiving by speeding up security lines to avoid predicted protests. Adam Curry recounts his attempt to join a White House telephone press conference hosted by TSA Administrator John Pistole. Curry intended to ask about radiation testing standards and why agents are forbidden from wearing dosimeters, but he was disconnected shortly after identifying himself.

tsa· john pistole· backscatter x-ray· radiation· white house press conference

13:00 And, oh, actually the one I do want to mention was Simon Bennett who did give the exact 255. Chris did it for next week's show, but hopefully somebody else will follow up. So you were wrong and I was wrong by agreeing with you. Well, you know, as I thought about it... Duh! How stupid are we? Yeah, because it makes more logical sense to what exactly what they did, which was, you know, minimized, you know, the opportunity for positive PR for the TSA was exact. We did suggest the possibility that this would happen. Yeah, but no, but we predicted incorrectly and I think we have to say it and when I started reading all the messaging and I started seeing what they were doing, I was like, of course it makes so much sense. It makes more sense. So for people who have not heard it,

13:51 uh... we said well the public in a slow it down planes all take off half and he is going to be a madhouse not quite the opposite and like job of course it makes so much sense to do it that way they were they were passing people by the naked body scanners putting only through national numbers rushing him through making it really easy really friendly they had t s r uh... t s r t s a p r people at all the major airports doing live shots cuz i i checked around the dial Live shots on the morning show so they had a you know a different guy everywhere really friendly And of course the mainstream media is way buying into this. Oh, yeah, well way buying into it, and it was interesting because Pistol Pete there the administrator of the PSA Pistole it's you spell a pistole, but it's I guess it's pistol and

14:43 I got a note from one of our producers who works at Mainstream Media and it was a forward from the White House that he was doing a telephone conference, press conference. And it had the number to dial in and everything. I'm like, yeah, great! I got a question for him. Right? Yeah, and in fact my question was going to be, it was very simple. You're already telling us it wasn't answered? Of course it wasn't answered. I was going to say, in the morning Mr. Pistol, two questions. I was so looking forward to that. I was going to say, although Johns Hopkins has deemed certain low levels of backscatter x-rays safe for the traveling public, it is unknown if all AIT machines adhere to the proposed ANSI standard.

15:23 In regards to the amount of radiation emitted from the backscatter AIT machines, when can the public expect to have detailed information on the testing of each manufacturer's machines to be posted on the TSA.gov website, and why are TSA agents not allowed to wear dosimeters? I thought that was it gonna be a good question right? Oh, yeah, right So I call in you know, I get that now first of all, I call in and I say, you know So you got to do first name someone actually live answers, you know, Adam Curry spell it. No What's out letter you from no agenda? Could you spell that? Yeah, I know a G end a da. Uh-huh. We're coming from Los Angeles Okay, and then I'm on you know It's like I'm on before the call and you have to press pound a star one to ask a question and

16:06 I press star one, like three seconds later, click, I'm disconnected. So, and you know, I dial back in, go through the rigamarole, and then I can't ask questions anymore. You know, the star one doesn't work. And there was all kinds of like, hey, John, how you doing? It was almost like one of those where analysts call for a quarterly. Yeah, everybody's chummy. They always say, hey, great quarter, y'all. Great Q, yeah, really loved your numbers, great quarter. It's like, hey, John, how you doing? There were a couple of questions which I think may have still been set up but there was something I did learn and it came from the following question. There's a press release from Care, one of the Muslim groups in the US here that says that you guys will allow some people to pat down themselves. Is that true?

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

CAIR Press Release, TSA Self-Pat-Down Protocols

A press release from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) reveals that the TSA allows travelers to pat down their own religious headwear. Administrator John Pistole confirms that after a self-pat-down, agents perform explosive trace detection on the traveler's hands. The hosts argue that if self-patting is safe for headwear, it should be applied to other sensitive areas to avoid invasive groping.

cair· religious headwear· explosives detection· petn· security protocol

16:56 to pat down themselves interesting question right so uh... let's listen to his initial answer so we allow uh... we allow uh... private screening if somebody requests that in terms of the uh... uh... whether it be the pat down uh... if he opts out of AIT so that's always an option uh... but in terms of uh... you could just see people like scrambling around right What is this? Get the care, get the care press release. What the hell is this? We've got to figure this one out. Any other specifics and we just do that with our standard protocol for those people who want to go see their loved ones. So Michael you... Okay so now I spliced that a little too tight. So now he's answering a different question.

17:47 and he comes back to the self pat down very interesting piece of information. If I can just go back, I'm not sure I have the full question on the, for example, the religious headwear thing. We do allow a self, for example, somebody could pat down their own headwear if you will And then we do explosive trace detection of the hand on there to make sure that that person that does not expose his head where they could be concealed or something. So it just is to clarify that. So I found that very interesting. So if you can pat down your headgear where you can hide enough PETN to blow your head off.

18:24 yeah why can't you pat down your own crotch and say here sniff smell my finger yeah pull my finger swipe my finger that makes a lot more sense in fact it makes a lot more sense than this groping doesn't it i mean is isn't that isn't it the whole naked body scanner is to see suspicious packages other than the huge ones we have john you and i Is to see suspicious packages which could contain non-metallic explosives. I mean, don't you want to be wiping people and stuff down? And can't you just do a self-pat-down? Well, you know they can do a swab of you too. I mean, but the point is is the they got they have an issue with the Muslims who are going to be wearing stuff that they can't be touched. But it's ridiculous. It's the whole thing's ridiculous. The whole thing is idiotic and let's go over. I want to get this out of the way. Let me get a couple clips done.

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Janet Napolitano, Security Theater Memes, Washington Post Polling

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appeared on Charlie Rose to promote a new security meme: the idea that passengers should want others to be screened for their own safety. The hosts criticize a Washington Post poll claiming 64% public support for scanners, noting the small sample size of 514 people. They argue the government is successfully turning citizens against one another to justify invasive procedures.

janet napolitano· charlie rose· washington post· security theater· airport screening

19:19 yeah and yes i'm completely irked by the story and the fact that they would be pulled a stunt they pulled on that thanksgiving by rushing everybody through the magnetometers and then coming out and saying well see there was no protest things actually went better than usual nobody cares they all you know then they start citing this washington post poll which by the way why if you look at it you know that a bc news washington post for sixty four percent of the barricade public support this Every time they show this poll, they do show the sample size. What do you think the sample size is? 1,000 people. 514. Even less. It's like I got that many people at the house for Thanksgiving tonight. We have at least that many listeners.

20:03 That's about it. So it's a bogus poll and the media is all over it. It's not a polling of people who actually fly. And then when they go and start asking people at the airport, you get a bunch of, you get, you know, the one... The shills. I want to play, you got a shill. I'm going to play this clip. You got a kid. This is the clip of Stooges at airport. Uh-huh. You got a kid who's got a, I don't know, he's got a speech defect. Hey, hey, hey, no laughing at people with defects. He's got one. and then there's a guy who's like some you know he says is all bull bull crap and there's a guy said I think it's great and you look at this guy I'm telling you it's a pervert I think and then I'm sorry and then somebody else but just play this this is what you did so this is what the media hmm you still there oh that was weird hold on you there yeah oh no I'm sorry

20:58 Something happened just say this is where the media what? Is worth of me. This is what the media feeds us. I think it's worth it to keep safe to get patted down Well, I'd rather not do it, but to be safe, it's worth it. I mean, what else can you do? I think it's unnecessary, personally. I don't like it. But I didn't feel unsafe, but I didn't feel like it made me any safer. Had the pat-down this morning in Tallahassee and it was no problem whatsoever. I was not offended in the least. Earlier today we spoke... Amazing they couldn't find one person who didn't like it. It's just amazing how that works. You know Napolitano was on... Wait, wait, wait. They start off as Sylvester the Cat, then they go to Cleveland from the Cleveland show. Around the globe! Napolitano was on Charlie Rose and she rolled out the meme. There is a meme for the security.

21:52 in America and around Gitmo Nation. Here it comes. And what I say is look. First of all, look. Look. Look. Look. You stupid slave. I want you to look. And what I say is look. Look. The threat is real. We know that from last Christmas. So first of all, John, the threat is real. We know that from last Christmas. A year ago. Yeah, yeah, but we know that. It's real. Outers or liquids or gels onto a plane to use as an explosive. The new machines give us a much better chance of finding those kinds of things. And the revised pat-down procedure helps us to make sure that if something appears as an anomaly that we don't, the screener really can't tell what it is, that we can't resolve that anomaly.

22:39 In the end result, what it means is that you are safer getting on the plane and you can have greater confidence that the other people on the plane with you have been properly screened. So that is really the new meme and this is what Pistol Pete was propagating. You want to know that the people around you have been scanned. It's not about you, it's about you want to make sure the other guy is scanned. And this is a very dangerous precedent because you are turning the people against themselves. This is an ongoing theme which we call a meme and we'll just wait for it continuously This was the don't you want to be in an airplane where you know everyone else has been screened? Yeah, you're right We should have spotted this a couple shows ago. Yeah

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

High-Speed Rail, Mass Transit Security Expansion

Janet Napolitano and President Obama are analyzed regarding the expansion of security measures beyond airports. While Obama promotes high-speed rail as a convenient alternative to flying, Napolitano suggests that "tighter" aviation security necessitates moving screening technology into mass transit, trains, and maritime environments. The hosts view this as a coordinated effort to create a market for screening machines in all public sectors.

barack obama· high-speed rail· mass transit· maritime security· maritime

23:21 I'm actually surprised it's so subtle that we didn't spot it earlier, but because Pete was doing this, he said, well it's not about you, it's about making sure you're safe, because all these creeps around you, all the public, all your fellow citizens are a bunch of criminals, and you want to make sure that they've been scanned. Exactly. Now she said something really interesting Which you could interpret two ways, guess which way I interpreted it. Are there more of them? Are they using people who have a US passport? All that. Right. Well, a couple of things. I think we can say that the big long-term conspiracy involving lots of players

23:58 who were in on the conspiracy like 9-11. I mean so how do you read that? I read it quite clearly. But wait, there's more. That has changed. Why? Because our adversaries have figured out that we've gotten pretty good. Two guys in a cave! But she says it so incredibly, she says the conspiracy has changed, all the people were in it. Why? Because the other guys, she literally says the other people who are not necessarily the conspiracies. I mean words matter, right?

24:38 To me that really mattered just listen to the transition where he says why has the conspiracy changed well because those other guys listen to it changed why because Our adversaries have adversaries. That's the other guys Am I reading this wrong? I mean, she probably didn't mean it that way, but it sounds a lot like a Freudian slip to me. I've figured out that we've gotten pretty good at finding large conspiracies. So the kinds of attacks that are planned or that are being contemplated are one person, two person, not high-tech but low-tech. That sounds like this show. We're not high-tech, we're low-tech. We're not one person, we're two persons. We are the adversaries, John.

25:21 We are. I don't think we're low-tech. Now let's... One more. That's interesting. I mean this woman is dangerous. Oh hell yeah and here's what's coming next everyone and by the way 300 individual emails all different all varying just a little bit with links to stories and stuff. Well I think they're going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through. uh... i think uh... the tighter we get on aviation we have to uh... also be thinking now about going on the mass transit train dot is all over the news and what do we need to do it i just want to hear it from the horse's mouth so to speak uh... await a minute you're gonna you'd no oh no you didn't on all you didn't call for the obama clip when i wasn't ready for it

26:14 Hold on. The Obama clip. Yeah, here it is. Obama about trains. What we're talking about is a vision for high-speed rail in America. Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city. No racing to an airport. And across the terminal, no delays, no sitting on the tarmac, no lost luggage, no taking off your shoes. I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going onto mass transit or to trains or maritime. Maritime! That's an expensive word for boats. What do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there? Yeah, and then public buses will be next.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

CBS News Radiation Report, Johns Hopkins Controversy

A CBS News report is scrutinized for comparing airport scanner radiation to everyday sources like drinking water and standing in Grand Central Terminal. The hosts dispute the claim that Johns Hopkins approved the machines, asserting the university only evaluated theoretical radiation levels rather than specific manufacturer hardware. They argue that comparing backscatter x-rays to cosmic radiation is a "Ministry of Truth" tactic to minimize health risks.

cbs news· johns hopkins· backscatter· millirem· grand central terminal

26:58 Well, that's because they've got to sell these damn machines. Well, so let me just reiterate what we're saying is of course what has happened now and we are turkeys, you can call us sheeple but we're turkeys, we're like oh okay whatever, you know I want to make sure the guy next to me has been screened and pat-downs, well just go through the scanner and they continue to lie about the radiation. No radiation, that's the proper amount is none. They never talk about radiation, never. It is letter after letter coming from the out of the woodwork from radiologists and say they would never walk through this thing right and And and Johns Hopkins has not approved these machines. They have come out and said well, you know a little bit of radiation is okay did you see by the way the I think it was let me see. I think it was CBS. This is an amazing report and they said

27:56 Hold on let me just find it here. It's radiation truths and lies. That's what it is and it is a CBS News online special report and They are essentially telling us that the scanners, according to Johns Hopkins, which is not true by the way, you can look it up and I've put those links in the show notes again. Johns Hopkins has not evaluated the machines. They have come out with a report regarding amounts of radiation. And so here we have a little slide show and they are, and there's also the Health Physics Society, which is a professional organization.

28:37 And so here's the truth. This is literally how the airport scanners and 12 must-know radiation risks. Are airport scanners dangerous? The Transportation Safety Administration says absolutely not, but travelers have expressed their doubts fearing that submitting to the scans will expose them to hazardous radiation. What's the truth? Well CBS News, the Ministry of Truth, asked leading radiation safety experts from MIT and respected Health Physics Society for the real scoop real scoop on radiation levels from the new scanners and 12 other everyday radiation sources. Many of which you probably never thought about. So they've got 12 truths, John. This is truth. Okay?

29:16 So one scan from a typical backscatter security scanner might deliver 0.005 to 0.01 millirem. By the way, that's a fluctuation of 100%, which I don't think is good for any calibrated machine. No, and by the way, these machines are not run by radiologists. They're not checked daily they can be out of kilter and then you zap in the crap body for all you know and everybody also says that this is a target the skin it's an overdose on the skin itself you're gonna get skin cancer cases all over the country so MIT dr. Francis Mara says there is no known risk from being scanned it's never been demonstrated well yeah because it's never been researched that's why there's no known risk I mean that's no known risk doesn't mean there's no risk

30:04 Okay, so what are the other sources of radiation John? Radioactive water! Did you know that drinking three glasses of water a day for a year might give you a cumulative exposure of about 0.045 millirems? That's at least five times more than the dose from an airport scanner. Did you know that John? Well... Dude, obviously the scanners have nothing going on. They don't even work. Let's look at the next one. Some buildings are made with stone known to emit tiny amounts of radiation. Unbelievable. Case in point, New York's landmark train station Grand Central Terminal. Wait for your train for an hour there and you might be exposed to about 0.06 millirem, at least six times more than an airport scanner. Wow.

30:50 I didn't know that. They're coming up with a million excuses. Power plants are permitted to emit tiny quantities of radiation. People living within 50 miles, like the Simpsons, can be exposed up to 0.1 millirem daily. My gosh, John, that's like 10 times more than being naked body scanned. And coal contains traces of radioactive substances. Living 50 miles away from a coal fi- I mean, you're screwed if you live near a nuclear reactor. You might as well just shoot yourself now. No matter where you live in fact you're exposed to low levels of background radiation. Notice how they put the background there in quotes because it's backscatter background. This is unbelievable. Yeah, that's a connection.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Radioactive Butt Joke, Local Police Arresting TSA Agents

Following a media montage of pundits defending the TSA, a joke is made about a spouse's "radioactive butt" based on claims that human bodies emit more radiation than scanners. A separate anecdote describes local police officers who allegedly enjoy arresting TSA agents for battery when travelers file charges. The hosts suggest a rivalry exists between actual law enforcement and TSA agents over the perceived unearned authority of the TSA badge.

msnbc· matt lauer· radiation· police· badge authority

31:31 from air, soil, water and cosmic radiation that bombards the earth from outer space. I thought I was the crackpot. Oh my god. Play the Apologist Stooges Medley which is a bunch of people on MSNBC and other stations you know with their crap and the very end is is Matt Lauer. Okay let's listen. There's this minor inconvenience that people are having to go through it's not ideal we should fix it but I just I think that people are getting very upset about something that's not that big a deal. I mean this has to be done.

32:07 I mean, I'm sorry that it's intrusive and I'm very sorry that people are insulted. But, you know, the alternative is that we risk something. What does it say about us as a culture that we get more bent out of shape about this issue than we do about massive unemployment? I hate to even think of what happens if the government caves in on this and relaxes these procedures and someone manages to get something on board a plane and kill us all! Unbelievable. John, did you know that the human body emits radiation? Oh, well, yeah, just walking around. Why don't I just x-ray myself? No way! Let me just wrap myself in some film. One year of spooning with your spouse might expose you to two millirems, at least 200 times the dose from an airport scanner. Mickey, your ass is radioactive!

33:01 Unbelievable. These guys never let up. We cannot win. This battle cannot be won. Honey, your ass is apparently radioactive. All we can do is tell people to stay out of the machine and get the groping and get it over with and know that in some areas the cops, by the way, so I got a story off when I was doing, I can't deny you, say who told this. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What? What? Your ass is radioactive. How? it's trust me have you seen that thing conversation yeah it's radio is over the joke is over John says all right she came in you know it's like when she comes into the room I got to respond all right what do you have John guy is the apparently a policeman in a local jurisdiction area where apparently I guess they can arrest the TSA for doing certain things in other words if they grope you and somebody files charges

33:54 The cops actually, there's some local cops and I think this takes place around the country if you think about it. So local cops love to come in and arrest TSA people. Yeah of course they do because... And apparently a situation that occurred in an airport The guy comes in, happily cuffs the TSA guy, and makes sure to walk him past the line of people waiting to go in, and he gets a round of applause from all the passengers. The TSA has a serious, serious problem if this ever happens, and apparently it does.

34:33 And the cops just relish the idea because they have to travel once in a while and know what a bunch of... Well they also... cops... because of the badges. Cops actually earn their badge and these TSA people were handed them to, they had like merit badges, Boy Scout badges, and to give them some semblance of authority they were given real badges. I'm sure that pissed cops off. It's about the badge, you know, it really is. Yeah, no, the badge is important. It's can't be just not it's not to be marginalized by a bunch of you know, these these phonies Okay, so let's move off this topic unless you got something something more I do I want to do the one last thing which is the Matthews douchebag clip

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Chris Matthews, Ginger McCall, Michael Chertoff Corruption Allegations

MSNBC host Chris Matthews is criticized for his interview with EPIC lawyer Ginger McCall regarding the scanners. During the segment, McCall points to the "revolving door" between the government and security vendors, specifically naming former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. Matthews is accused of shouting down the guest and ignoring documented ties between Chertoff's consulting firm and scanner manufacturers.

chris matthews· ginger mccall· epic· michael chertoff· homeland security

35:10 uh... matthews had a who is a uh... uh... chris matthews yet chris matthews who is a bag that's a student for the tsa in this regard any sinks at the video scanners are great so he has on for that way he has on this ginger mccall who is the actually the lawyer for epic and they're suing the tsa and he puts her on and makes her at the but of an attack. He tries to shout her down, he eventually insults her, puts words in her mouth, claims that she's calling, he claims he knows nothing about the Chertoff thing. The whole interview with her trying to defend herself is a catastrophe and he is a total douchebag in this regard. If you play this clip by the end, you will be disgusted the way it ends up.

36:00 security theater. It makes people feel better. What do you mean a lot of money changes hands? $170,000 each for these machines. $2.4 billion in the GAO report. So I'm following you. What about the money changing hands? Who's getting this money you're talking about? Probably the same revolving door people that get money on these projects. So our government is, there's dirty business here? Well there's a problem with a revolving door people going from agencies we're buying you're saying we're buying faulty equipment because somebody is getting the money who has influence yes there's an who is who are you accusing here well typically Michael Chertoff has been shown to have ties to these companies but it's a Michael Chertoff is what the tank with some businesses they're doing business with the government you're saying yes okay how about how about Ray LaHood

36:43 I'm not familiar. Well he's the head of transportation safety. I mean he said it's the Department of Transportation. Is he part of this problem? I can't really speak to that. But you're saying we have machinery now because a Republican in the past administration had some sweetheart deal with some suppliers, some vendors. It's not just Chertoff. TSA has a history of this. Who else is involved in bed with these, buying these faulty machines? I'm not going to name names for you. I can talk about the machines and their capabilities and their lack of capabilities. See, we're finally getting to the bottom of it. You believe the United States government is using faulty machinery because of corrupt deals. Dude, does he not read USA Today? I mean, USA Today published a list of people who are involved in this.

37:19 well not only that but she's being actually you know she's just kind of explaining what she sees as going on from the perspective of epic and he's going on putting words in her mouth constantly and then he makes a weird accusation at the end the whole thing is ridiculous I think that this machinery, I know that this machinery is not effective at detecting the threat. And you're saying because Michael Chertoff was head of Transportation Safety, no he wasn't, he was Homeland Security, not Transportation Security. The head of Homeland Security was involved in this. That's the only reason that I can see for the United States spending 2.4 billion dollars on technology that's not effective at picking up the powdered explosives that it is. Do you know anything about this Earl? Do you have any idea, reason to believe that our government's corrupt when it comes to Homeland Security and protecting us?

38:03 There's gambling going on over there, Earl! What's happening? I want to believe that the American security apparatus is acting in the best interest of keeping Americans safe and that the administration, meaning the TSA at this point, has acted with whatever information they have that rose to the level of scrutiny that we have now. I think at the end of the day we all want the right thing which is for people to be safe and secure in traveling about the country and the world. Well, I want to have Michael Michael Chertoff if you're watching I want you on the show to defend yourself That's a serious charge. You've just that's how I book all my guests Hey, Michael Chertoff if you're watching this piece of crap show. I want you on to accuse me of corruption I am not accusing him of buying quality equipment because deals are made Sweetheart arrangements a history TSA has a history. Why doesn't she just say yeah, that's what I'm accusing him of why does he just say yeah? Yeah, that's right. She's a lawyer it okay

38:57 They need to, Chris Matthews, hey Chris Matthews if you're listening to this show, I want to be on your show. I'll say it. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm accusing him of. And by the way he was saying oh we shouldn't profile. We shouldn't be, this is another one of those things that's just coming out. We shouldn't profile people, no that's not American. We shouldn't profile, we need scanners. When he was director of Homeland Security he was saying this. buying equipment before they've actually demonstrated the effectiveness of this equipment. Why have they done it in this case? You said it because of a suit arm arrangement with vendors. That would be speculation. And I can only... Well you're admitting you're speculating. Well, I can say that Turdov is connected. That came out last year. with the developers and the manufacturers of this technology. Therefore he made a deal he should have had on behalf of the U.S. government. That's again, that's not really what I'm here to speak about. I can tell you about the fact that these machines are not effective in the use of explosives. Well you're on the record, you're on the record, Ginger McCall, with accusing Michael Chertoff of dirty business on behalf of the United States government.

39:48 probably not be alone in that and I think that he himself has admitted that he has ties to these companies. You've made a serious charge, thank you. Thanks for coming on. If it's true, it's a serious charge. I don't think it is, but we'll see. Thank you, Earl Sutherland, thank you Ginger McCall. Coming up soon... That's a real journalist. I don't think it is. I don't think it is. Yeah, it's a serious charge, serious charge. I don't think it is. I don't think it's true. But what Epic fails to see... What is he... who is he working for? Ministry of Truth. Unbelievable. But what people fail to recognize is that the airport and the TSA is just the tiny tip of the spear.

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Thermo Instrument Systems, Body Scanner Patent History

The financial history of body scanner technology is traced to a company called IRT, which sold its patents during a bankruptcy case to Thermo Instrument Systems (now part of Thermo Fisher Scientific). The hosts suggest the bankruptcy may have been engineered by pulling government contracts to allow a larger entity to acquire the intellectual property. They note the massive revenue growth of these companies following the government's mandate for new security hardware.

thermo instrument systems· thermo fisher scientific· patents· bankruptcy· irt

40:24 because, you know, what's two billion dollars? Whatever. 170,000 dollars per machine. That's what you gotta look at. So you gotta sell a lot of machines. And this is pure business. And you have to keep selling them. You just can't sell them to the airports and then close shop. Yeah, not just to the government. You gotta sell them to sports arenas. You gotta sell them to movie theaters, schools. You gotta sell them to everyone who, you know, banks. That's why the fix is in to keep people from talking about the radiation. If they talk about it, you marginalize it with all this bogus crap that Mickey's got a radioactive butt that's worse than the scanner and all the rest of it. I say I'll walk through that scanner. By the way, you're in trouble for saying she has a radioactive butt. I'll walk through your scanner if you spoon her butt.

41:11 She's my new free pass. She's gonna be irked. Anyway, there's a lot of research that I've done which you might be interested in. It warrants some research about the patents behind the naked body scanner. The patent actually was uh... registered by a firm called i r t who went to in a astounding bankruptcy case sold all their assets for six point eight million dollars in cash which is pretty much the value the deaths in the computers including their patents to thermal uh... instrument systems inc

41:48 Who, oh, did about two billion dollars last year. How does that work? And so they do, they own the patents to this and it's a very nefarious, weird company. It's a publicly listed company, by the way. I'm sorry, two billion dollars in the last quarter. Not the last year, the last quarter. What's the name of this company again? Thermo Instruments Systems Inc. Thermo or thermo? Thermo, thermo, thermo, T-H-E-R-M-O. and here's the New York Times report yeah so they did revenue wait that's the wrong report and now of course my Safari browser is frozen there it is what's that Nasdaq

42:35 No, I'm looking at the I haven't found the symbol Hold on a second. I've got I've got their 10k here sec dot info their symbol is How come they don't have their symbol here it just look it up thermo instrument systems Inc. I have their their filing here and They have a they've like a ton of subsidiaries. I think it's more of a holding company really and and everything else is stowed away in little... I think they're a subsidy of some place, because it's not... Thermo Fisher Scientific. Oh, they're part of Fisher. That's interesting. They must have been bought out recently. Yeah, I think they were. So, very interesting that the original patent was basically bought out of a bankruptcy

43:26 And it's so easy to make someone go bankrupt, really. Just be a big client and then pull the plug. Right. And then... Be a big government client. Yeah. For example... There was some guy on some talk show recently who was talking about how the government, they signed a contract with the government and they had to pay every 30 days and they decided to all of a sudden not pay and then put it off for six months. He says he'll be out of business. This just in, John. if you eat a hot pocket you get at least five micro rams of radioactivity as really bad he could be valid is actually particularly bad because they even the smallest amount of radiation from the inside out from the inside the uh... the hot pocket epidermis is a is it by the very idea that you mean the epidermis of the hot pocket uh... couple of uh... notes from our

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Facial Recognition, Clear Program Resurrection

A report from a physician at the National Institute of Health (NIH) suggests that the government may be saving facial data from airport scans for recognition technology. Additionally, the "Clear" biometric pre-screening program is noted to be returning to airports like Indianapolis. The hosts characterize these programs as "first-class slavery," where citizens pay a fee to wait in a shorter line for the same invasive screening.

facial recognition· nih· clear program· biometric· indianapolis

44:19 producers out there. Another physician, says Jeff, that I work for, informing his relative at the National Institute of Health, read a memo circulated that states the government is not saving the entire body scans from the airport scanners, just the face portion. Makes you wonder about facial recognition technology. He swears this guy is not a conspiracy theorist but was taken aback by this memo. So there's clearly stuff that needs to be looked at and of course the well, they just take a photo Speaking of let's sneak them through this device and they won't know what we're really up to speaking of of interesting bankruptcies and returning from the dead the clear program comes back miraculously along with IQ There's money to be made which is pure. It's pure

45:03 pure money all it is a separate line it is the the first class slave line and you pay a hundred and sixty nine dollars a year they have a special on by the way a hundred nineteen dollars if you're in Indianapolis and you go through you still get scanned and groped well then what good is it well there's it's a special line is first-class slavery this is good you can be a slave but you can be a first-class slave so that is just wonderful wonderful wonderful wonderful I don't think I had anything else. I have the clear program, but we don't need to listen to that. Oh, yeah, Hillary. You know, I hate this topic. Yeah, me too. Hillary Clinton was all cranky about it. But wait a minute, I've got the segue. Okay. So you were talking about, you know, Freudian slips. Yes.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Duncan Hunter, The 20-Day Death Prediction

Former Congressman Duncan Hunter appeared on Sean Hannity's show and made a specific, cryptic comment about soldiers in Afghanistan being "dead in 20 days." The hosts speculate whether this was a Freudian slip or insider knowledge of a planned military operation or "false flag" event set for mid-December. They note Hunter's background as the former head of the Armed Services Committee gives his specific timeline weight.

duncan hunter· armed services committee· afghanistan· helmand province· hannity

45:56 So I got a Freudian slip in here that I picked up on. I listened to this. It's one of these things where you take a clip and this was taken for the, because I was, this is a guy, ex-Congressman, douchebag, Duncan Hunter, Duncan, I think Duncan D. Hunter, or Z. Anyway, they created a special uh... you know one of these uh... districts out of the blue and he got it put into it and he took it over and then he gave it to his son so basically it's an inherited it's a it's a barony it's a peerage period here is a job yes so this guy's now out and his son is in he's doing he doesn't say he's working as a consultant or anything but he was always the head of the uh... armed services committee when he was that when the republicans were uh... uh... in uh... power

46:38 And so he's on, I think it's Hannity's show, and he's talking about, oh you know, we need the scanners, you know, he's pro-scanner, he's an asshole. He's pro-scanner. But he drops a little nugget in here that I only picked up on after I took the quote. You know, I was actually making my clips. I said, wait a minute. What is this all about? Is this a Freudian slip? Is there some information here? Do we now have to write it down on our little list and track it? Play the Duncan Hunter clip. I don't see a Duncan Hunter clip, unfortunately. Oh, well, that's my mistake. I probably named it something stupid. 20 days? 20 days! Okay, here we go. I believe in justice. I believe in our Constitution. You do have to have a way to detect explosive. I mean, that's the key. No one's against that. You gotta detect enough explosive, the kind of explosive that could rupture the hull of a... How about dogs? I'm sure there's ways they can do this, but you know, there's a little bit.

47:33 I think it's done very unprofessionally. What we've seen, the horror stories of bad stuff. You gotta remember while we're sitting here there's people fighting in Afghanistan right now. Some of those young guys in Helmand province will be dead in 20 days because there's heavy firefights going on. We're Americans and we're asked to endure some inconveniences. Wow. And this was said when? This was said I think either last night or the night before. It was before the Thanksgiving, probably Tuesday. Wow. May have been Wednesday. In 20 days they'll be dead. Yeah. Wow. So let's paint a date on it. He dropped a bomb. What is this? So that would be around December 15th? Now he's saying this, yeah, just before Christmas. Yeah, December 20th. The 20th. The 20th. They'll be dead.

48:19 Uh, well actually before the 20th I think was today, today. But anyway, it's coming up. We'll be still doing our show. 20 days, we'll be dead. So yeah, the 15th, I'm sorry. Yeah, the 15th. Wow. So in 20 days they'll be dead. He specifically dropped the bomb 20 days. Why 20 days? Why would you say that out of the blue unless you were thinking it? And who is he again? This is Duncan Hunter, former head of the Armed Services Committee, retired congressman. I don't know why. He ran for president, supported by Ann Coulter of all people. He must be in a think tank or something. That's what I'm guessing. He must know something. Yeah, and he had this at the top of his head, because you get on these shows, you just

49:00 babble because you don't have a lot of time. Let me wiki this guy. So it's a hold on a second. I got to wiki this guy. I wiki'd him and he doesn't show what he's doing currently but I'm sure he's a part of it. I mean these guys never. But did you see Jimmy Wales at the top of the page? Yeah there he is again. It's fascinating. You see there's a chrome extension so you can have Jimmy Wales on every page. Yeah I saw that. It's hilarious. so uh... okay so we now we have a no twenty days the fifteenth of december they'll all be dead that's not only that you know that's really nice so some phone is that being set up false he knows about it he stupidly said the twenty days in a matter of boarded now that we're talking about it you know and uh... whatever the case is something something bull crap is coming out which brings me to around the corner to general jones obon to a guy who was dismissed

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

General James Jones, Afghanistan Opium Trade, Dope Inc.

The resignation of National Security Advisor General James Jones is linked to a speech he gave in Russia regarding the nexus of international organized crime and drug trafficking. The discussion explores theories from the LaRouche movement suggesting British and CIA involvement in the Afghan poppy trade. The hosts examine the "Dope Inc." theory, which posits that global banking interests are the primary beneficiaries of the heroin trade.

james jones· viktor ivanov· afghanistan· opium· lyndon larouche

49:50 Who was actually, I was looking him up because we had that great quote from last week. You might want to play it again if you can find it. and joan that with the question from the body and said was never answered yet to bed a spook conference uh... general jones was in the national security council no bomb a white house uh... would you remember what that was called again it was uh... was called question something question from audience yeah and let's listen to it thank you mike billington from executive intelligence review none of you have mentioned the narcos side of narco terrorism And yet, as I'm sure you know, the Russians have, especially Viktor Ivanov, their drug czar, has declared Afghanistan to be essentially a second British Opium War with the massive flow of drugs out of the British-controlled area of Afghanistan until recently. I want you to move to the question. Very quick.

50:45 The problem is that the US administration under Obama has basically said we shouldn't take on the drug issue, we want to focus on terrorism. General Jones, just two days before he was fired or resigned, gave a very powerful speech in Russia, fully endorsing the Russian call for a global collaborative effort on fighting drugs, fighting international crime. and the sophisticated interface with international business so I'd very much like to hear your comments on that. Thank you. So before you move on John, just a second, you said that you'd been watching this conference in the bunker there at the Congress, four levels down, and that everyone was talking about this book Cutting the Fuse? No, I think the book was... Yeah, that's what it is. Was it Cutting the Fuse? I got it right here. Because I bought the book.

51:34 Hold on a second. Is this the book that what was it written by? Everyone was quoting the book. Yeah. Everyone was quoting this book. So I bought it. Hold on. Let me let me open. I bought it on I think I had it either iBooks or I had it on Amazon you got to get both now you got to get Amazon Feldman book because it's the Feldman book they kept talking about hold on It's whatever you Skype to me. Okay, hold on. It's it's just a little slow to start up anyway, so I bought this book which I'll find the name of in a moment What a piece of crap If this is like the Bible that all these guys are quoting from, it's an unbelievable piece of crap. I mean the whole thing is like ministry of truth. Yeah, well, you know, Bin Laden, he did this, he's still alive. It's unbelievable. It's like everything we hate about all these lies is based on, the whole premise of this book is based on, yeah here it is, cutting the fuse.

52:38 the explanation for whatever. The explosion of global suicide terrorism and how to stop it. Yeah, it's all about suicide terrorism. That's what it is. I went to the first chapter and then I emailed you. What a piece of crap! Well I'm glad I didn't buy it now. Thank you very much for helping. If this is the Bible for these guys, you will no wonder we're nuts. But yeah, okay, anyway, so General Jones was fired because he said, hey, we're shipping poppies and the banks on Wall Street are making money off of it. I'm paraphrasing. Yeah, well, actually, let me read a little section here from one of the... there's a bunch of websites that talk... look at... people can go out there and look up

53:28 uh... general jones fired afghanistan you read uh... stuff like this is is a typical of uh... bob were one of the typical postings a run into three days before sudden resignation of uh... nsa uh... general james jones was in sochi russia speaking at an international security conference hosted by those russian counterpart nicolai petrushev I guess. In his remarks, Jones delivered a scathing attack on the nexus of international organized crime, international dope trafficking, international terrorism and international money laundering. It was tantamount to a direct indictment of Britain's Dope Inc. and was delivered in the context of a call for an alliance with Russia and other participating nations to wipe out the Scourge.

54:11 So then he's done, he's out. Hey, don't you know about MENA Arizona man? You don't talk that way in public man. First rule about fight clubs, you don't talk about it. You're out. And so now the question remains when you start reading this stuff, a lot of it by the way comes from Lyndon LaRouche's crazy crowd. Right. But that doesn't mean they're wrong. Anyway, you start reading between the lines and it seems as if there is a disconnect between those who believe that England is behind all the drug smuggling out of Afghanistan because they've always been behind the drug smuggling out of Afghanistan and they're the ones are still fighting the Afghanis from a hundred years ago and all we're doing is being their proxies, we're their stooges and that's why we're in Afghanistan and Dope Inc. this thing out of the UK is behind the whole thing. So we're actually the lapdog of Gitmo Nation East

55:07 according to the one theory the other theory which is the one that we prefer push which is the uh... not to use the word push in that regard but do we push which is the cia is really the big drug smuggler which there's a lot of in evidence for that i mean they've been sent as a mercury guys that oran contra era those the cocaine connections and all the rest of it uh... and we did just got nothing to do with england but they but they did this new thought is kind of interesting because you can see it from a historical perspective that yeah the Brits were always you know they've still been fighting this Afghanistan thing since day we know forever they're still irked about the fact that when they were a great power they could do anything in Afghanistan as neither could the Russians

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

UK Heroin Shortage, Russian Drug Seizures, Obama in Lisbon

The Guardian reports a severe heroin shortage in the UK caused by a fungus blighting the Afghan poppy crop rather than law enforcement success. Simultaneously, Russian drug czar Viktor Ivanov announced a major seizure of heroin labs on a trafficking route into Pakistan. President Obama's absence from the domestic TSA debate is noted, as he was attending a summit in Lisbon, Portugal during the holiday.

guardian· poppy crop· viktor ivanov· pakistan· lisbon

55:49 and the Russians of course are you know they're smart they're also irked about the Afghani thing I mean Afghanistan is the nexus of a lot of irkdom. Well there's a very interesting article that came out earlier this week from the Guardian the communist rag, heroin shortage in UK is putting lives at risk. Hospitals are treating a growing number, this is great reporting by the way, hospitals are treating a growing number, growing from what? Of drug users who have overdosed on heroin mixed with other substances by dealers because of a huge shortage of the opiate across the UK. This is like, uh, whew! One of the most severe heroin droughts for five years has been reported in the areas across the UK including London, Lancashire, Surrey,

56:37 and Stockton on Tees, which apparently is where all the heroin addicts hang out. The shortage has been linked not to seizures of the drug by law enforcement agencies, but to a fungus that has blighted this year's poppy crop in Afghanistan. reducing it by half. So not only are these guys bringing it in, they can't even keep their crops right. They've got to call Monsanto and get some... Monsanto's got to come up with some hot poppies that really do the trick. Ooh, that's it! Hot poppies! Hot poppies! Hot pockets! Yeah, we need that. Hot poppies! That's our new snack. It's a tasty snack, available all across Gitmo Nation, Leprechaun. Hot poppies! Have them, kids, they're good for ya!

57:21 Oh man. And then this is other story I found. Has Ivanov's pressure on the US finally produced results? And this is a very long article. But apparently at a joint Russian-US press conference in Moscow, Viktor Ivanov, head of Russia's Federal Anti-Narcotics Committee, announced that over 932 kilos, almost a ton of heroin, had been seized. The Russian news agency Novosti reported this. More importantly, three heroin labs and one morphine lab all produced for a long established drug trafficking route into Pakistan, worth an estimated $1 billion of the drug trade, was also seized. You know, I think the CIA is going to get pissed off at these guys. They got to stop doing that. That's like our stuff. Hey man, get off our stuff. Something's up. This whole thing is depressing.

58:19 Yeah, I mean nobody wants to talk about it Obama's in on the on the scam the whole or just out of the out of the loop Which is I think it's probably worse. He's I think that's why he's always out of the country. Yeah, he commented on the I wasn't there he's not comment on the TSA thing from from Lisbon he's in Portugal I wasn't there I have not, I don't know what the pat-down's like, I wasn't there. I'm sorry man, I'm the president, I get to travel on my plane. He said something similar to that actually. I'm the president man, I don't know what the pat-down's like, but you know, it's like, you want to make sure that... He's definitely burning, he's going to put more miles on that plane than any president, probably any two presidents in history. Let's be honest John, if you and I were president and first lady,

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Ireland Bailout, IMF Austerity, Corporate Tax Havens

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has imposed austerity measures on Ireland, including a significant reduction in the minimum wage. The hosts argue that the bailout is a tool to force Ireland to raise its 12% corporate tax rate, which has made the country a tax haven for US tech giants like Microsoft and Dell. They frame the economic crisis as a deliberate move by global bankers to "screw the Irish" and reclaim tax revenue.

ireland· imf· austerity· minimum wage· corporate tax

59:11 Well, we'd be in that chopper every day. We're like, hey John! Well, no, if we knew what we talk about on this show to be true, we'd definitely be out of the country. I'd be on that chopper off to the Air Force One. Anyplace. I mean, there's probably two or three rifles targeting, you know, the president at any given time, you know, if he makes a false move. So get the hell out. I don't blame him. Oh my goodness. That's great. You want to talk about Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe for a moment? Because there's a lot of interesting stuff coming down. The wheels seem to be kind of coming off the puppy. Have you been following this? Oh yeah, we're waiting for the collapse. Yeah, we kind of are. So Ireland, after we had the audio of the Minister of European Parliament, oh we don't need a bailout, we don't need no bailout. Oh let's have a bailout. By the way, the bailout, which of course, austerity, and this is from the IMF, which is like some magical force that comes from the moon or something. No, it's bankers.

1:00:10 It's bankers and other countries who are the IMF, the International Monetary Fund. But no one ever really talks, oh the IMF, oh of course the IMF. It's like the saviors, you know, hey John if you can't pay your mortgage, call the IMF, it's all taken care of. Of course these are the true economic hitmen and they go in and they announce austerity measures. The minimum wage, I'll just mention one. The minimum wage is dropping by a full euro. In Ireland? In Ireland. A full euro. And the minimum wage is only like 7 euros and some change. You know... That's like huge, man! That's like 15-16%! Goodbye!

1:00:51 you know i i have been put into together right away but i'm coming to this conclusion if we use the economic hitman as it's kind of an example ireland dot is a tax haven for american corporations there's a flat rate twelve percent uh... income tax for corporate corporate income tax opposed to ours which is thirty three thirty five percent something like that's really high we have the highest in the world of generally speaking in every aspect of taxation no matter what anyone would like you to believe this were the highest in the world and so the way to get these you know americans companies to get back here to lose the screw the irish because of a first of all the irish set up the court resent the other it's it's in the plan corporate tax rates have to rise it's in the plan is it so they they look in the irish what is irish trying to do to us is screwing us out of your microsoft that dell

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Nigel Farage, EU Parliament, Tower of Babel

Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party delivers a scathing speech in the European Parliament directed at President Herman Van Rompuy. Farage claims the Euro project is crumbling and accuses EU leadership of destroying democracy to preserve their "Euro dream." He warns that after Greece and Ireland, Portugal and Spain are next to face economic collapse, which could lead to nationalism and violence.

nigel farage· herman van rompuy· european parliament· euro· portugal

1:01:40 is in ireland they're all over there scamming at the u.s. government out of this much-needed tax money so that well but i thought you should be careful you did the give my nation leprechaun as slaves of course our friends in their their get them screwed for a long long time yeah but the point is now that they've they pulled that stunt it's like okay Let's get them, put them high on the list for like, you know, making them stop doing that. Let's listen to an all-time favorite of the No Agenda Show from the UK Independent Party in the European Parliament. the Tower of Babel is speaking in front of Starfleet command we have Nigel Farage addressing Herr President Heiko Hermann von Rompuy in case you're listening from the United States of Europe you have a president you didn't elect him but he is the president of the United States of Europe and here is a Nigel Farage speaking with him with some fine European music Mr. Co-President Nigel Farage, freedom and democracy

1:02:42 Well, good morning Mr Van Rompuy. You've been in office for one year and in that time the whole edifice is beginning to crumble, there's chaos, the money's running out. I should thank you. You should perhaps be the pin-up boy of the Eurosceptic movement. But just look around this chamber this morning. Just look at these faces. Look at the fear. Look at the anger. Paul Barroso here looks like he's seen a ghost. You know, they're beginning to understand that the game is up. And yet in their desperation to preserve their dream, they want to remove any remaining traces of democracy from the system.

1:03:19 And it's pretty clear that none of you have learnt anything. You know, when you yourself, Mr Van Rompuy, say that the Euro has brought us stability, I suppose I could applaud you for having a sense of humour, but isn't this really just the bunker mentality? So your fanaticism is out in the open. You talked about the fact that it was a lie to believe that the nation state could exist in a 21st century globalised world. Well, that may be true in the case of Belgium, who haven't had a government for six months, but for the rest of us, right across every member state in this union, and perhaps this is why we see the fear in the faces,

1:03:58 Increasingly people are saying we don't want that flag, we don't want the anthem, we don't want this political class, we want the whole thing consigned to the dustbin of history. And we had the Greek tragedy earlier on this year and now we have the situation in Ireland. Now I know that the stupidity and greed of Irish politicians has a lot to do with this. They should never ever have joined the Euro. They suffered with low interest rates, a false boom and a massive bust. But look at your response to them. What they're being told, as their government's collapsing, is that it would be inappropriate for them to have a general election. In fact, Commissioner Wren here said they had to agree their budget first before they'd be allowed to have a general election. Just who the hell do you think you people are?

1:04:46 You are very, very dangerous people indeed. Your obsession with creating this Euro state means that you're happy to destroy democracy. You appear to be happy for millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro dream can continue. Well it won't work because it's Portugal next. with their debt levels of 325% of GDP, they're the next ones on the list and after that I suspect it'll be Spain. And the bailout for Spain would be seven times the size of Ireland and at that moment all of the bailout money has gone. There won't be any more. But it's even more serious than economics. Because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens. I just love Nigel Farage. I just love the way he speaks. Well, I think we should have a Deadpool on him.

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Godfrey Bloom, Nazi Allusions in EU Parliament

A major disruption occurred in the European Parliament when MEP Godfrey Bloom shouted the Nazi slogan "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" at German MEP Martin Schulz. The incident caused a "fracas" in the chamber, leading President Jerzy Buzek to demand an official apology. The hosts discuss the live translation difficulties and the irony of the EU's rigid rulebook being used to police speech during a heated debate.

godfrey bloom· martin schulz· nazi· ein volk· jerzy buzek

1:05:47 Now this guy now, you know what I disagree because they need guys like this to vilify in fact This exact same thing happened and I have some audio of this. So we've got Schultz there from Gitmo nation Deutschland uh... and unfortunately you know the way that the way they do this on these broadcasts is everything has to be in english or in french or some other language and it's all trans... they got live translators yeah so if you listen to the english version when... and i actually can understand you when schultz starts talking then you're like what we are saying mr. president then you get like some dutz bag sitting in the... hopefully translating you can't even hear the original audio track

1:06:34 and so you don't hear the floor. But what happened is, the Minister of European Parliament, Bloom, who is also from, I believe, the UK Independent Party or the Freedom and Liberty, whatever it is, he stood up and said, one folk, no, one people, one nation, one Führer, or something of that ilk. And it set everybody off, and it's really funny to listen to how they deal with this at the Tower of Babel. I'll try to continue as best I can. So this was after the interruption, which of course we didn't hear because he's speaking in German, I hear, you know, I've got the English translation is horrible.

1:07:13 Despite the interruption, says Mr. Schlechter, can participate? Yes, I won't be long, Mr. President. Please, I don't have very much speaking time, but I just have one more point to make. here they go back and forth. I don't know if people heard that. A nation, an empire, a Führer. That's what that man over there said. A nation, an empire, a Führer is what he said. He was yelling it from up in Starfleet command there. And this starts off a fracas which is really amazing to watch. Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer were his exact words. Well he said time is over, please finish your

1:07:58 Last remarks. Last remarks. Mr. President, Mr. President, I won't be long. When a man like that traipses through this chamber chanting I'm folk I'm right I'm Fuhrer again there were people in Germany who said that and I fight that spirit really do you remember that John were there people in Germany who ever said that well I think in the 30s everything I do but I'm not sure he does president I can so now we have

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

EU Parliament Apology Stand-off, Rule 9

The confrontation between Godfrey Bloom and Martin Schulz escalates as Bloom refuses to offer a sincere apology, instead calling Schulz an "undemocratic fascist." The session is briefly suspended as leadership consults the rulebook (specifically Rule 9) to determine how to handle the insult. The hosts mock the "Starfleet Command" atmosphere of the proceedings and the obsession with formal apologies over substantive policy.

godfrey bloom· martin schulz· fascism· apology· rule 9

1:08:43 Wait, let's stop a second. I'm getting confused. Okay. All right. Wait, listen, I just want you to, I want to get the players straight. Now who is the guy who said I'm folk, I'm Reich, I'm Führer? That was Godfrey Bloom. From where? From the UK, Europe of Freedom and Democracy group. And he's a member of... What was he doing there? He's a member of European Parliament. He's in the, he sits right behind Nigel Farage. Okay, and he said that and then who made the who's who is his last guy that was being translated? Okay, so first we have so Schultz was speaking. He's the the co-president of the socialist group

1:09:22 He's from Germany and while he was speaking Godfrey bloom says I'm folk I like I'm fewer he yells that which of course we didn't catch on audio So then Schultz is like do right in the middle of a little joke Sergeant Schultz so sergeant Schultz is talking and then Godfrey bloom goes I'm fine. I'm which is reminiscent of the Nazis of course and then we get everybody's all abuzz now I think Jerzy Buzik who was the president of the European Parliament, the French guy gets up and says hold on a second, hold on we gotta do something here. I don't accept what you have just said sir we are in a democracy this is a democratic era and I would ask you to apologize I would ask you to make an official apology

1:10:10 Otherwise we are going to lodge a complaint. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm more surprised you didn't add, and will add, concentration camps to the equation. Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Führer und concentration camps? Settle the problem that way. Dear colleagues, We must go ahead. I will... Moment, moment, moment. I will take it into account. I will take it into account. We have ways of making him talk. Do not worry. Take it into account. I will read you. I will take it into account. The president shall call to order any member

1:11:08 who disrupts the smooth conduct of the proceedings or whose conduct fails to comply with the relevant provisions of Rule 9. Ah, they have a rule book. They've pulled out the rule book, John. Rule 9. Rule 9, provision 152. And 9 means no in German. I ask you, colleague, to apologize. You have to apologize to your mother. This is exactly what this sounds like. You insulted your mother and I want you to apologize to her right now. Whether you mean it or not, I want you to apologize right now. The whole thing is about an apology. So it's not about what he said anymore because of course he's probably right. The whole thing is about you have to apologize. It's right here in the rule book. It says you must apologize. It's the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard. The chamber is expressed by Herr Schulz.

1:12:05 Meet the case that so that's bloom again. He stands up He said he stands up and he says no the guy what he said is exactly what I meant expressed by her shorts Meet the case he is an undemocratic fascist What kind of an apology is this well hit listen exactly here comes the answer to that Well Colleagues, we expected something quite different. That was not the apology we expected from you. Because we wouldn't like our discussion to be disturbed in such a way. So I will call you, colleague, to the meeting with me and we must take decision for the next steps. Right, so now they have to go in a closed door meeting.

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Godfrey Bloom Expulsion, Nigel Farage Defense

Godfrey Bloom is ultimately escorted out of the European Parliament by an official in "coat and tails" after refusing to leave voluntarily. Nigel Farage defends Bloom, arguing that the rules are not applied evenly since Schulz frequently calls Euroskeptics fascists without repercussion. The hosts note that this dramatic expulsion was largely ignored by mainstream news outlets across the European Union.

godfrey bloom· nigel farage· edward mcmillan-scott· yorkshire· rule 152

1:13:04 So they have so they break everyone goes away, and they come back Punishment no we have to come back now and continue this so they actually close the session right there Yeah, we have to look into the back room and beat him with a tire iron. I'm not hard enough. Thank you the incident referred to this is a way we stop this is the day you know what now i'll come back and now we're back in the afternoon and nigel fair just given the floor to uh... speak about the incident discussion to be disturbed in such a way i read you on little too far so i would call you to to the meeting with me and we must uh... take decision must take a stand down and spank you bristle side down the incident referred to was a protest by mr bloom

1:13:52 in which he made wartime allusions of Mr. Schultz and the president said this was unacceptable and invited Mr. Bloom to apologize. Got it. Check. Mr. Bloom did not apologize. No. Then, and I call on him now to do so and if he does not do so he must leave the chamber. Mr. Bloom. I'm sorry that's not Nigel Farage my mistake that is uh... that is edward mcmillan he's uh... the scottish from uh... member of european parliament and so he says you know i i we had a little talk with said you do do you got a pile i see now the spokesman for the whole thing he's the vice president of uh... okay that he's not yet he's uh... there's a whole bunch of guys he'd rather follow i know what he's the vice president of the starfleet command so i think bloom gets up again now apparently they love what he just said mister

1:14:59 Yet again, yet again, there is one rule for hair shorts and one rule for everybody else. This is a disgrace. I have been elected, re-elected to vote in this chamber by the people of Yorkshire, your own constituency I might add, with a democratic mandate which you do not enjoy Mr. President yourself because you switched parties and they voted for the conservatives I have no intention of apologizing I have no intention of leaving this chamber you must have me escorted out sir. Yes! You shall have me escorted out I will not have it. It's like Congress during the Civil War. It's heating up. All right now what to do what do we have to do now?

1:15:50 So now, now, they say, alright, one statement can be made by Nigel Farage, who of course is the guy with the clear thinking, and he lays it down, he lays it down correctly. Mr President, the reason for the anger and the noise is because we're not actually applying the rules of this place evenly. Mr Schultz has repeatedly thrown insults, not just at me, but at many members of this house. He said that the Eurosceptics, the no voters, opened the door to fascism. We've had Danny Cohn-Bendit calling us mentally ill. Can we Mr President, if the rules are that something is deemed to be an insult and a member is asked to leave, that's fair enough. But the anger, and I share that anger, is these rules are not applied evenly. Mr Schultz regularly calls other people fascists and when he's called one, the member in question is asked to leave. That isn't right, that isn't fair.

1:16:48 anyway so then it goes on and on and on and on and then they actually hold a vote do we who thinks he should be thrown out show me your hands and that drags on forever like well it's pretty clear everyone wants you out dude you know they threw him out well mr. Farris I don't want to prolong this I don't want to prolong this but can I just make the observation that this is incorrect what mr. Bloom said

1:17:25 In two interventions, one from the floor and one from his place, both were heard by many people and both were unacceptable in parliamentary terms. The House, in parliamentary terms, wants Mr Bloom to leave. That's its expression. If he does not do so, people will infer from that his attitude towards the democratic process. Mr Bloom, I'm going to invoke rule 152. Invoking rule 152. If you will not leave, I'll have you removed. I've discussed this with the president and I have his support for this.

1:18:04 So anyway, he gets tossed out. A guy comes down who has like a coat and tails on and he has a chain, very much like a mayor's chain like you'd see in like Disney cartoons and he apparently is some official of the European Parliament and escorts him out. He's out of here, out of the game. So anyway, we've got your unelected officials, some elected, but many unelected positions, calling each other fascists, Nazis, and the wheels are coming off the wagon, my friends in Gitmo Nation Europe.

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

EU Self-Funding, Swedish Constitution Changes

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso has proposed "EU self-funding," which the hosts interpret as a direct European tax on member nations. Meanwhile, the Swedish Parliament (Riksdag) is moving to change the national constitution to formally incorporate the Lisbon Treaty. This move is seen as a surrender of national sovereignty to the central European government.

jose manuel barroso· taxation· sweden· lisbon treaty· riksdag

1:18:48 and uh... you should be aware somehow i don't think this made the news in most of the uh... the countries around the e u meanwhile in the uh... meanwhile we have why should it right meanwhile we have uh... the cause a manual borosso who was cheered in the european parliament i don't have the audio that on that tuesday when he outlined plans to publish an official proposal on the use self-funding before the end of June 2011. Do you know what that means? EU self-funding, John? Well, I would think it's just a euphemism for taxing all the 10 member nations. Exactly. A European tax, which is one of the things that everyone was guaranteed would not happen. So we're going to tax you... Wait, wait, wait. They were guaranteed it wouldn't happen? Yeah, everyone. Everyone got guaranteed. I don't know why we won't get... They were guaranteed. Well, then why is it happening? It doesn't make sense.

1:19:41 Yeah, exactly. Meanwhile, as we move over to Gitmo Nation Rancid Meatballs, which is, as our producer who sent me this article self-titles his own country of Sweden, it looks like there's a proposal on the table, very good chance of passing, of changing the Swedish constitution to reflect the Lisbon Treaty. Those crazy Swedes. Here, the Riksdag, which is their parliament there, shall vote about the Prime Minister after every election. So that's a kind of standard possibility to proclaim extra election, okay. The fraction of the Swedish membership with the EU becomes part of the Constitution. There you go. They're going to change their Constitution, everybody.

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Listener Donations, The Niner-Niner-Niner Tribute

The hosts process a series of $99.99 donations, accompanied by a "niner-niner-niner" vocal tribute. Donors from Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina are thanked for their support. One listener mentions using show talking points in their social circles, while another discusses the Clinton Foundation's recent approval for tax-exempt status in Canada.

beatles· itunes· wisconsin· north carolina· value-for-value

1:20:33 and they're going to make... It's gonna happen here too. Don't kid yourself. One of the guys behind it, but actually let's get to our, thank some of our listeners before I go into my rant about this crap. We had some support and I'm very happy for it, thankful for it I think is actually what I want to say. It is Thanksgiving and we thank everyone for supporting us. I think you have a little theme that we play before we do this. Uh, I have a theme, indeed I do. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda, in the morning.

1:21:18 and that is course a tribute to the apple uh... beetles collection have you purchased them on itunes oh yeah sure and you know i you know i have a reason i purchased it because i haven't heard enough beetles songs in my life yeah adam cold uh... men uh... menasha wisconsin hundred twenty five dollars to value for value the show keeps my wife and i entertained informed also I want to wish my son Evan a happy first. We'll put him on the list for birthday call outs in a second. He's actually not on the list. Let me add him to the list. Yes, I noticed. Okay, I'm putting that to his Evan. Okay, go ahead. I'm just mumbling. And now we have like one, two, three, four.

1:22:03 call outs which in which will be uh... adam doing his uh... is trans mission of nine or nine or nine or nine or these are the only gave ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents and and uh... here they go on the domain or did not read some of their message so when do i when do i do my nine or nine or nine or i i didn't give them that i'll give the name of the person where they're from and then you do the niner niner and then rementioned their name quote in this case cori wadlow night or night or night or night or cory wadlow l l c well i was going to mention where they're from first but that he's in north tustin uh... christopher uh... who's a terrible israel who's a terry i guess this to satire repose a terry depending on the way of an italian pronunciation that in bethel park pennsylvania nine or nine or nine or nine ever christopher pusset area for surgery is the dumbest thing we've ever done by the way i think it's even shirk and uh... menage menage a wisconsin nine or nine or nine or nine or steven shirk

1:23:01 and John Harrison finally last but not least Pinehurst North Carolina. 9 or 9 or 9 or 9 or John Harrison I love the little Adam head next to these on the spreadsheet yeah yeah good work Eric I like it thank you. It's kind of scary uh... so uh... adam i'd uh... i'm sorry uh... cory as says he really enjoyed sunday show i guess last uh... sunday one of the better at once in his opinion the top of the monthly thirty three dollar a month boarding pass subscription sending this nine or nine or nine or your way for fantastic research presented about clinton's foundation which we by the way i have to say it is a good one interrupt these thank yous but uh... clinton obviously has filed uh... everything now so everything's clean right

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Global Donor Roll, Birthday Call-outs, Knighting Layaway

A diverse group of donors from Manitoba, Oklahoma, and California are recognized for their contributions. The segment includes a mention of a new No Agenda app for the Boxee platform and a documentary deconstructing "security theater." The hosts also perform birthday shout-outs for listeners' children and acknowledge "knighthood layaway" payments from dedicated producers.

manitoba· oklahoma· boxee· calgary· knighthood

1:23:44 Oh yeah, everything's clean. In fact, it's so clean that the Gitmo nation Great White North has now approved the Clinton Foundation for tax money from Canada. Oh great! If we can soak the Canadians and Clinton gets the money, you can't ask more than that. All you have to do is just send them your cash. Right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Ah, screw that. Just send us cash. Anyway, he wants to thank us for helping him in his social circles because of what would essentially are talking points we do on the show. We will be sending out talking points in the email shortly. Christopher Pusatary, hey John and Adam, trying to decrease the douchebag ratio of the show. Thank you.

1:24:35 and he wants to show his thanks for such a great show. By the way, this is probably the best podcast in the world. Please use my first name only. Well, we didn't do that, did we? Of course, I couldn't pronounce his last name, so who cares? Every week this happens. I hope this isn't a honeypot so they know where to come and show me, don't worry about it. I was hoping to get some karma. We got a little bit of that for you, buddy. No problem. You've got karma. and he said plans on starting a five dollar a month thing as and then finally of course john harrison does just says we do a great show and wants to thank us and that's why he did the niner thing we also have on the uh... list uh... newt uh... donor a roman and

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1:26:55 always in tussin california israel it says that makes no sense nights now uh... israel and i know we have a special relationship but is not quite that special yeah i think that i'm a little bit we have a lot of your husband who got merged that well he's in israel and that's that and then uh... rabbi bob uh... in the morning john and adam last year i donated an mp3 player full of no agenda shows to my brother for his birthday he's been a contributing producer ever since including donating no agenda for his birthday this year like to wish him a birthday we've got that lined up and send him a little karma also boxy you know that check that's not lined up either now we got another one missing ones was rabbi and so this would be andrew being to andrew being okay got it

1:27:43 Boxxy users can check out the alpha version of the no agenda boxy app. We got an app I love that I got to put that in the show notes. Yeah at rabibob.com r-a-b-b-i-b-o-b.com slash a slash boxy b-o-x-e-e right cool double double nickels on the dime from Patrick Kading of San Francisco in the morning you both i thought that you guys might be interested in this documentary is released and we'll put this on the show notes is too long to read he is also uh... it deconstructs the uh... the security theater thing yeah account all day with it is that would definitely will look at it and then the show that's for sure double-niggles on the dime from a kundu woodworking in saint catherine's ontario along note uh...

1:28:35 You might want to look that over. Well, it's kind of just like others send you money that would have been spent on their ex-girlfriends, I'm now sending you money from the company that I'm in the process of shutting down. There you go. I wish this was leftover money, but I'd rather give it to you before the taxman takes it all. Wow. The company was a good old-school kind of business making wooden toy building blocks in an honest hard-working kind of way. It's not a growth business, my friend. honest wooden toys. Yeah, well... Noah Jenner provided me with countless hours of entertainment during the long and mundane hours of my work at... what is it? Ukunto.

1:29:20 UK o n t o dot com not to mention awakening of some sort would you mind plugging you can tow dot com selling off the last sets of building blocks right now it's sad that's sad but this is happening all over the place unfortunately yeah I we wish you some good karma everyone else was working there who couldn't do woodworking a who couldn't to UK OO and to dot com Steve bottoms Reno 5150 from Chile I see Reno era did arian birthday call out there coming up a trouble go Canyon another $50 one-time donation and John Lake Sacramento knighthood coming up Alan Martin another $50 he's a

1:30:06 It's time for Turkey Day, sending best wishes to us. Also, thank you, Carmen, for his brother, Seedy Physical Jazz. We have a link here that we'll put on the show notes. Arthur Kessler, another knighthood layaway in Calgary. That's it for this week. It's your birthday, birthday, on NOAHgender. Aaron Darian says happy birthday to daughter Grace who turns 14 tomorrow. Evan Colby, Colb, says happy first, uh, gets a happy first birthday from Papa and Mama Colb. And Rabbi Bob says happy birthday to Andrew Bean and of course happy birthday from all your buddies here at the NOAHgender show. It's your birthday, yeah! And I think it's actually time perhaps for a new credit, John.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

New "Created By" Credit Proposal

The hosts debate the introduction of a new "Created By" credit for donors who contribute the exact amount of the current episode number. While Dvorak is skeptical about the historical accuracy of the title, Curry argues it provides an exclusive incentive for high-level supporters. They eventually agree to consider it as a bonus title alongside Associate Executive Producer credits.

dvorak· executive producer· credits· donation· show branding

1:30:50 Well, before we do that, I want to mention everybody to help us out here to keep the show going to keep this information the best podcast in the world alive. You want to go to Dvorak.org slash NA and contribute. Also, you can contribute at channel Dvorak.com slash NA if you can't get there. Apparently in Korea, you can't get to Dvorak.org anymore. And for some reason, you can't. It's okay. Pretty soon, there won't be a Korea left. Don't worry. and then of course the no agenda show dot com has a link and uh... go to any of those and help us uh... for the next show so i've been watching some uh... taylor they have this other credit which uh... is a created by credit which i think is kind of cool well ever seen that credit created by is the person who who designed the show right so um... if someone donates the exact amount of the episode of the show shouldn't they just get a created by credit

1:31:41 Well, created by is a kind of a, is a credit for something that exists in the past. In other words, the first show. Right, so that's my point. You can't do any more. Just work with me, John. Alright? I'm thinking about it. I'm just trying to see how we could make it. If you did show created by maybe, but I still think the executive producer... Well, I don't know. Where would it show up in the list of credits? Would it be below associate? Well, typically a created by comes at the end of the show. So it would be at the end of the credits, I think. So it would be after associate executive producer and so we need to... if someone donates $256,

1:32:22 for a Sunday show, then they get show created by. Because you can only do that donation once and have it created by. It's a stretch I know, but I think it's another... Well I'm just wondering if I was donating $256, would I rather have an executive producer or associate executive producer credit? There's nothing precluding you from having both. You can have both. I'm just wondering if... okay, well let me... It could be an extra bonus. It could be an extra bonus. chat room likes it. Yeah okay well I actually let's think about it because I like the idea of having an extra title I'm just not not sure it's created by it might be created by producer or something like that. Okay well all right so it's Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak.com slash NA we really appreciate it especially the ever-growing list of five dollar a monthers 33 33

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Chemtrails Documentary, Aluminum Levels in California

Adam Curry discusses the documentary "What on Earth Are They Spraying?", which investigates geoengineering and the presence of aluminum and barium in the atmosphere. The film claims that aluminum levels in California have reached 63,000 parts per million, far exceeding the state's alarm level of 1,000. The hosts discuss the potential health risks and the theory that these materials are being sprayed to reflect sunlight.

geoengineering· aluminum· barium· mount shasta· what on earth are they spraying

1:33:16 uh... that is of course for the uh... the mothership i would got a lucky thirty uh... and of course our uh... one dollar an hour i'd go to the donation support giving page at the board dot org slash and a it really keeps us going keeps us motivated but keeps the lights on more importantly we use it to uh... to pay bills here so really appreciate it you know john that we had a uh... pretty interesting conversation last uh... last week and uh... It was about chemtrailing. And there's a documentary which, it took me a while to get around to it, to watch it, for two reasons. One, apparently it's only available on BitTorrent. So for a second, you know, it's one of those things like, I'm screwing with my mail server. I don't want to go find a torrent. Okay, so I finally download this thing.

1:34:08 And it even started off a little bit like, too many, too many, it's the kind of thing that would turn you off in a second if you saw the first 20 minutes of it. It's about an hour and a half, but then it gets really, no, no. Usually the first five minutes turns me off. Yeah, it could, it could. It's called, What on Earth Are They Spraying? Which is, I like the double entendre of it. Oh, that is good, a nice time. Right, so but then they actually get into the scientific end of it with former USDA people And there's one disturbing So okay, I can tell you the documentary in a nutshell is we don't know exactly who is spraying us globally

1:34:51 But the belief is that geoengineering is in place and aluminium or aluminum and barium are being sprayed into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight away to reduce global warming. This is clearly not being done with our consent. and the proof that this is happening, and this whole documentary plays out mainly in California. They go to Mount Shasta and they go to different places. They measure how much aluminum is in the air. Now, the alarm level in the state of California

1:35:28 uh... and get my nation west of the people's republic of is one thousand parts per million if there is more than one thousand parts per million in the air in in california then the alarm bell should go off i don't know if you knew that john i i think you were uh... didn't you test uh... air at one point in your illustrious career I was an air pollution inspector, yes. Right. Does that sound about right? For the government. Does that sound right? About a thousand parts per million? Seems high. Well, that's the alarm level. So if it's more than a thousand parts per million, then all alarms should go off. The levels measured in California, and I guess I'm going to have to go measure my own air, 63,000 parts per million currently.

1:36:14 How do you know this? Well, this is the testing they show in this documentary. So I have not done my own testing or anything like that, but they show the test, multiple tests. The one that was most interesting was Mount Shasta because the guy was also looking at the acidity of the soil. And to add on to that, which I thought was very interesting, aluminum of course is an accelerant and it can make fires burn quicker, faster, and maybe even hotter. Well, in the presence of oxygen perhaps. Yes, yes, of course. uh... but it is interesting to point out that the wildfires over the past few years eight years have consistently gotten worse and harder to combat because everything just fires up so quickly because of the aluminum that settles on the trees now okay now that the pressure million is just incidental to that away but sixty three thousand president and we've been in terms of you breathing and i'm i don't care but the fire thing is bogus i think they would know that possibility of you inhaling

1:37:17 that level of aluminum constantly and then also using aluminum cookware is possibly has health effects. Dangerous to your health. So the conclusion, and they do go around the globe on this, the conclusion is that someone is spraying And it appears to be aluminum and the belief is amongst the chemtrailers, which of course we might want to change the name now just to make it a little more acceptable because chemtrail sounds like, you know, just wacky kooky. It's kooky. Yeah, it's kooky. Is that we are being that the atmosphere is being geoengineered for our convenience and of course when we find out that or maybe it'll come into play it'd be like under the biodiversity they'll say you know what we're just doing it all for you and we're just trying to protect you and don't worry about it of course they're actually killing us I did do some research on C-SPAN so that you don't have to picked up a clip from John Holdren

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

John Holdren, Global Cooling Theory, Barstow Water Contamination

White House science advisor John Holdren is heard discussing the controversial possibility of using geoengineering to create cooling effects. The hosts suggest that population control advocates might be attempting to trigger a new ice age under the guise of fighting global warming. This is linked to a state of emergency in Barstow, California, where the water supply was contaminated with perchlorate and aluminum.

john holdren· global warming· perchlorate· barstow· arnold schwarzenegger

1:38:18 uh... of course is the shield brought in uh... to the obama administration and what he says is uh... uh... is concerning at best reduce emissions and build up soil carbon and there's something we might decide to do uh... still quite controversial one would be geoengineering to create a cooling effects offsetting greenhouse Geoengineering we just might decide every time I hear this a shutter you cringe, right? Yeah, yeah, we just might decide to do that and we just might not tell you about me Shut up slave. What are you questioning? I'm telling you, they're out to make a global cooling scenario to kill people. You're worse than I am. I've always felt this. Yeah, they make a global... Wait a minute, roll that by me again. I like that. The idea is to create a false panic over global warming. You know, we already saw the global cooling panic in the 70s. That ended because it wasn't getting any traction or maybe it was the facts because there are still some people that say that's happening.

1:39:19 Because we have these ice ages, that's what the globe does, and if we can initiate a new ice age, it's going to kill off a lot of people, and that'll get the population down by these population control guys. And so, throwing a bunch of crap in the air is one damn good way of starting it. To cool everything down, yeah. Yeah. Start it, just get the ice age started again, it'll come down, wipe out the British by the way, and get rid of ferrets. and you know it'll take care of you know a lot of the population issues that we have. Meanwhile, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency Saturday for San Bernardino County where the water supply for the city of Barstow was found to be contaminated with perchlorate. Barstow. Barstow.

1:40:09 Interesting. Well there's another article somebody sent in about the citizen concern lingers over aluminum in water. Well of course, it drops, yeah, well what happens is the hikers of course drink the snow water. I mean this Mount Shasta is snow, right? And people drink that water that comes, it's supposed to be clean clear water and it's filled with aluminum. But these levels are outrageously concerning. And how do I test for aluminum? Is there a simple, can I get like a 101 science kit test from the toy store and test aluminum in my air? In the olden days you probably could, but nowadays you'd have to first look up the tests and there's always like a variety of tests that would do this. And it's probably a part, and it's a parts per million test, so it would take some skills literally to be able to do it with accuracy. And you'd need a bunch of gear that you don't have.

1:40:58 that you forget it you know i will do it you got to take it to a sample to a lab and tell me what you want and then actually i would do two labs cuz i don't nominees labs are that great and we used to when i was a chemist at union oil we used to uh... these be a competition and i think all that is do this and they would have a there was about five or six of these competitions a year but the one that week i that i took part in it was done how much lead is in the gasoline test and there'd be a common sample in every oil refinery, Standard Oil, Chevron, Shell is over there, and Martinez, and there's a bunch of these places. I guess Shell's across the water, whatever. There's about eight refineries in the area. And we'd all test the same exact gasoline sample, and all eight labs would have a different answer.

1:41:47 Science! The science is in. Science, I tell you. But I think if people are measuring 63,000 parts per million, you know, it can vary a little bit, but if the... You yourself said more than a thousand parts per million seems high. What this does, aluminum, is it actually, this is why it's in some vaccines, it activates your own immune system. So it's like an adjuvant. Yes it is. Barium is used for the same reason. Now you can get baritosis. But essentially this all affects your respiratory system. And I don't really know if I'm just, I'm sure my smoking is probably the main reason for my respiratory congestion. But I'm seeing this, I'm hearing coughing and wheezing. Of course we have a whooping cough epidemic. So it may not be that it's used expressly to kill us. But it's not good for us and something is happening. We're not being told about it. There's a great iPhone app by the way.

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Plane Finder App, Nicolas Sarkozy Pedophile Outburst

A mobile app called Plane Finder is recommended for tracking aircraft tail numbers and altitudes to identify potential "chemtrail" planes. In international news, French President Nicolas Sarkozy is reported to have called journalists "pedophiles" during an off-the-record outburst regarding bribery allegations. Despite denials from the presidential palace, the incident was documented by L'Express magazine.

plane finder· ads-b· nicolas sarkozy· l'express· pakistan

1:42:48 which is the plane finder iPhone app. I don't think it's available yet on Android and it uses the new I want to say ABD system or AB I think it's ABD system. So when you point it at a plane in the sky it immediately gives you, you see the camera, you see the plane and it immediately gives you all the details. The tail number, the speed, the altitude, etc. So if you see something that might look a little weird as a contrail you can immediately see the altitude so if it's flying in like 10,000 feet that's not a contrail. Because that doesn't happen until above like 25,000, 28,000 feet.

1:43:29 And you can get the tail number and you can then find out some more. You can just Google tail numbers. That'd be kind of cool. Yeah, so people are doing that. For all you paranoid freaks out there. Yeah, you can make light of it, but I'm very concerned about the level of aluminum. I would have had the number 63,000 parts per million in my backyard. Well, you might. You might. How do you know you don't? I don't know. I don't care. I'm too old. I'm too old to care. Well, that's why I'm here, John. I still care. I'm still young. Sarkozy had an interesting moment, which he's denying. This is the president of Gitmo Nation, Stinky Cheese. There was an informal press briefing and he was outraged by more questions about the bribery and the campaigns. Remember that was going on a while ago? Yeah. So he says

1:44:32 So he says to the journalist, and he's denying this by the way, and all tapes had to be wiped and everyone is being locked down. He said this in French I presume, not a single one of you believes that I organize kickbacks for submarines in Pakistan. It's incredible and still it gets on television. He declared in a 10 minute outburst at Friday's briefing and then turning to a journalist he said, you, I've got nothing against you. Apparently you're a pedophile. Who told me? Well I'm convinced. Can you explain yourself? And then as he left... This guy sitting in the audience is some poor guy. Journalist, yeah, because the point Sarkozy's trying to make is like, oh you can just call me whatever I want, you're a pedophile. And then as he leaves he says, see you tomorrow my pedophile friends. That's the best thing you can do? That's how you combat the press by calling them pedophiles? Oh that's gonna go over, that guy is dumb.

1:45:28 He's denying it of course. Did the press either solder or they didn't? Yeah but they're all afraid, you know, they gotta get their access. They're afraid, they're not, you know... Well, you know, they should do that to the White House press corps because they're the same kind of wimps. They're afraid they're gonna have their credentials pulled. The briefing was recorded on the internal recording system of the summit according to L'Express magazine which says that presidential aides insisted the tapes be wiped on the grounds that the briefing was off the record. And of course the presidential palace, where all elites live, denies that he made those comments at all. But I thought that was spectacular. Tom DeLay, convicted of money laundering, could go to jail for life. Yeah, right. Yeah, that'll be the day. At least they got one. How come that's not in the news?

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

China-Russia Currency Deal, North Korea Shelling

China and Russia have agreed to use their own currencies for bilateral trade, a move seen as a direct rebuke of the US dollar's status as the global reserve currency. Shortly after this announcement, a military skirmish occurred between North and South Korea. The hosts speculate that the conflict may have been provoked to drive up the value of the dollar and benefit US interests.

wen jiabao· vladimir putin· us dollar· north korea· south korea

1:46:21 it is not a lot is it now it was a played up very much no probably in texas a little bit and i think i think john we have uh... a situation on our hands which is uh... some of our word i was not familiar with c no a job so he presented as i a no c no a job either sign a way to find a way to have a look at this is kind of the the area that uh... i guess when the korean war broke out before i was born this is where all the troubles were going on. So here's the way I saw recent events, of course completely obfuscated by the non-opt-out news that everyone loves the TSA. China and Russia cut a deal, Putin and Ti Heng Yang, what's his name? I don't know. Yeah. They cut it. Now I already mentioned this when they first talked about this energy deal. I think it was a couple months ago actually, maybe almost two months ago.

1:47:22 Now China and Russia have decided to use their own currencies for bilateral trade. Yeah, this guy's so little play it's actually kind of astonishing. Premier Wen Jiabao. They rebuked the US dollar. Yeah, well so here's the way I see it. They rebuke the US dollar, which of course is bad for our dollar, for the dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And then all of a sudden we've got a kerfuffle between North and South Korea, the dollar pops up. And why does the dollar pop up? Because hey, if there's some crap going on in Korea, that means Korea will be buying our shit, that means our money will be worth something. Is that far from possibility there? I think no. I think...

1:48:07 I think you're kind of going in the right direction, but I don't think that that's going to account for enough to make the dollar go up. It did, but it did. I saw the jump. Yeah, I know, but I think there's more to it because I think you can account for the dollar going up with the Irish situation and the other crap that's going on in the EU. You can make that the reason. with more logic i think than this career okay maybe well it was south korea who uh... who shot first by the way make no mistake this is all the whole now we're we're not given the story i've already concluded that we have no idea about any of this is a ball government propaganda i do not know i said maybe there was even explosion for all we know why no who does know and i'm making a call

1:48:52 Okay, I know who you're talking about of course now. I do want to know that makes sense Yeah, they probably did something and the North Koreans said screw you yeah, they flew a bomb over That's interesting. Well, that's that's very interesting actually. Yeah, I think it was no, it's not sure if knows who you're talking about Yeah, well South Korea was doing an exercise and right and the North Korea apparently sent a fax We're out of paper sheet over in the corner what I should do it our machine run out of paper shoot I don't know

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

LA Missile Mystery, Submarine Fire Control Error

New information from anonymous sources suggests the mysterious missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles was an unplanned US military event, possibly a fire control error during a submarine drill. The hosts also discuss a planned global bank run scheduled for December 7th, organized by former soccer player Eric Cantona. They link the timing of the bank run to the "20-day" death prediction mentioned earlier in the show.

missile launch· norad· submarine· sharepoint· bank run

1:49:28 and then south korea's our training don't worry about it nothing to see here for north korea's i have to so uh... i don't know what it's like and i don't know when a couple of topics before again a little deadly and can you finish this up but i just need to this does wind up into war to other emails i received regarding uh... the missile Because you know there was speculation, did we did it did we shoot something at the missile off of LA? Yeah which we all know was a real missile. It was a missile. Okay so what yeah. Alright well I just you know you're not hearing about this anywhere else on the news so you know I've got some information from our producers and I just want to share it with you.

1:50:10 because you know, was it a Chinese missile, was it our missile, a China, whatever. Okay, in the morning, says an anonymous source, who will be kept anonymous, so I was having dinner last Thursday night with some friends when talking about work, the missile launch came up in conversation, one of the dinner guests works as an engineer that analyzes large missile trajectories. and while this person was very coy and guarded this much I could gather one it was not an airplane or any such nonsense two it was ours not the Chinese or Russian three it was unplanned four it was not launched off of land that was all I could get out of this person was probably more than he or she could disclose alcohol is such a great uninhibitor though I thought I would pass it along then we have

1:50:54 In the morning, Adam and John, I was on active duty in the submarine force. Thank you for your service. Spent eight years watching missile launches. I'm also certified to launch high-powered rockets. See, this is the people we need listening to the show. You know, we need... We have these people. I know, we got nuclear sub guys, we've got guys who are certified to launch high-powered rockets. Okay. Now that's a good... there's a kind of a cred that it's hard to beat. I mean, you know, it's like, hey what do you do? Well I'm certified to launch high-powered rockets. Let me suck you. You're awesome. This, he says, was clearly a rocket launch I doubt the Chinese missile theory a bit. My bet is on a fire control technician's mistake during a routine submarine drill. Yeah, that would be two votes for the mistake. And we do have another producer working with NORAD.

1:51:43 and this guy's deep on the inside and he has taken the uh... amazing although nor out of course is more for aviation he is taking i've given him all the information on the missing uh... navigation page so at first there was a a navv warning for ship saying hey we're testing missiles over here we could be shooting from submarines then the missile goes off in that whole pages were moved and now has a big microsoft uh... SharePoint error. In fact the whole week, yeah SharePoint. In fact that's... May have not been removed. Vivek, yeah really Vivek Kundra loves SharePoint. And then the only other thing I'd like to say is the chat room is adamant about this and I think it is very important. There is a bank run planned on I think it's December 7th or December 10th. Hold on a second. Just in time for that 20-day incident.

1:52:39 Ooh, to cover it up, yeah. Yeah. You could actually... Well, actually, it might be on the same day. I mean, you have some crazy incident in 20 days and then to cover it up you have a bank... Or it triggers the bank run. who very good i think i'm thinking though it was december ten someone in the chat room will tell me or you know the twenty days and we don't know the original with that twenty days may be stuck in his head from days earlier december seventh december seventh is the bank run in a given nation leprechaun uh... give my nation cast a net i think they're trying to build it out uh... all over a given nation and there's a website which i believe is bank

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Max Keiser, Silver Market, JP Morgan Short Selling

Financial commentator Max Keiser is encouraging people to buy physical silver to trigger a "short squeeze" on JP Morgan. The hosts compare this to the 1970s attempt by the Hunt brothers to corner the silver market. While Dvorak is skeptical about the ability of individuals to move such a large market, Curry expresses interest in purchasing silver coins as a hedge against inflation.

max keiser· jp morgan· silver· bunker hunt· gold

1:53:17 Run 2010 calm. Let me just double check that See if that is correct You should tell people to get their money out now. Don't wait bank run 2010 Yeah, let me get grab the English version. Yeah, this is an old soccer guy actually I don't know if there's an old soccer guy, but he's spearheading this which I find fascinating and uh... soccer player here's december the seventh two thousand ten let's withdraw our money cantona is the guy's name dear media for a short time international repressor reported the call for a bank run that we launched on face book to invite all those who wish to follow us to withdraw their money from their accounts on the seventh of december two thousand ten

1:54:02 Why have we launched this action? Well, to screw the bankers. You know Max Keiser is doing something interesting. Have you followed what he's doing? No. So you like Max Keiser, right? I don't follow him either, but he wants to bankrupt JP Morgan. and uh... which i think is funny interesting idea well he said he could make this is a guy who does know a lot about exchanges and trading he built the uh... the hollywood exchange i think right which was how you could uh... do head uh... uh... do put put options on movies and hedged the financing of your movie and he sold it for a lot of money and lives over there in paris

1:54:46 And so he's saying that JP Morgan is selling silver short, billions of dollars worth, silver they don't actually have. So they can't cover the bet. And what he's asking is for every slave in Gitmo Nation to buy one ounce of silver, physical silver, which I guess, I don't know how much you'd have to actually have, but that seems like you need a lot. It wouldn't work. Yeah, well, so he's trying to organize anything like that. I mean, this is the people who tried to do things I mean when bunker hunt tried to corner the market on silver. He was unsuccessful. He likes brother bunker Yeah, he had more clout in the Kaiser this so this is just people are just gonna who was bunker hunt

1:55:28 Bunker High was H.L. Hunt who at one point the world's richest man's one of his dumb sons who took billions of dollars that the old man had accumulated and squandered it on crazy speculations including the attempt to I believe it was in the 70s or the 80s I think it was in the 70s to try to corner the market on silver and he was like running the price up and you're making a fortune on silver and then just because the market, because this market is so big it's impossible to either corner or control, it collapsed and it basically broke the guy. I will say that I am going to buy silver myself. You know I bought gold at $850 an ounce. Some of it wound up in other hands.

1:56:14 But I still have some. So you actually ended up with gold at $400. At $1,600. If you look at it that way, yeah, I'm taking a bath. That was a bad investment. If you look at it that way. But I don't because I have love and a radiating butt. So let's just say I bought 850, it's ticked up to over 1400, it's down around 1330 now. And I still predict 1500 by the end of the year. But I am now personally going to buy some silver. You can get these nice bags for like a thousand bucks, you get a big bag of silver coins. It's pretty cool. It's a nice Christmas present. I think the train left the station on silver already. What do you mean? No, no, no. I think it can really, really keep going up. It doesn't matter. If you're going to invest in something, I would invest in palladium or platinum. Screw silver. I'm going for silver. Okay. All right.

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Fake Taliban Negotiator, Pakistani Shopkeeper Scam

A major intelligence failure is revealed where a man claiming to be a high-ranking Taliban negotiator was actually a Pakistani shopkeeper. The imposter reportedly received millions of dollars in "walking around money" from the US and Afghan governments before the ruse was discovered. The hosts mock the lack of vetting and the subsequent downplaying of the story by American media.

taliban· hamid karzai· pakistan· david letterman· intelligence failure

1:57:08 So we have to at least mention before the show's over, and I also want to do a little thing here about Sarah Palin and the Tea Party, as we predicted, of course they're trying to steal it. The fake Taliban negotiator, I mean we have to say something about this guy being with a genius. I don't know anything about that. Oh, you missed this story. It broke like two or three days ago. I did. In fact, there was a bid on Letterman last night where somebody did this. The guy that the US government and Karzai's boys were negotiating with, who was supposedly the Taliban's representative, soaked them for two or three million dollars because he needed the money for one thing or another, and he was a Pakistani shopkeeper. Wait a minute. So a guy shows up and he says, am I here on behalf of the Taliban?

1:57:53 and uh... i'm here to negotiate with a negotiating for peace that there's some sort of just true some piece of the range with the talent and they want to have come on right you look at the great show much of your papers gathered he looks like a question you miss the story because the the u s media downplayed that crap out of it has a little humiliating but it was played by the right wing uh... media and also letterman was it on the on the gag had some teenage kid come in claiming to be with the head of the taliban and that with a business card uh... so i was at that story needs to be explored a little bit is too funny shows you how you know we're not betting anything apparently don't know what we're doing over there so that's kind of interesting the other thing is is that it's interesting to me that pat buchanan leak weird conservative and he said could be said conservative his own creation uh... is now really an msnbc shill well i think he's over there as you know

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Pat Buchanan, Sarah Palin, Reagan Comparisons

Pat Buchanan is analyzed as an MSNBC contributor who is currently promoting Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee for the 2012 presidency. The hosts criticize the media's attempt to equate Palin with Ronald Reagan, arguing that Reagan had a long history of political activism and executive experience in California that Palin lacks. They view the comparison as a desperate attempt to validate a weak candidate.

pat buchanan· msnbc· sarah palin· mike huckabee· ronald reagan

1:58:52 Sorry? Guy needs to eat. Well, he needs to eat, but the idea is that, you know, because the Fox is always bringing on, you know, these supposed left-wing people, like Alan Combs, and they always harp on it, especially O'Reilly, we always have balanced people, we have left-wingers on our show. MSNBC would never do such a thing. And so MSNBC knuckled on him and they made Buchanan, he's on a lot of stuff. But he's essentially over there, and what's weird about it, he's shilling For either Huckabee or Palin to be running for president, play the Buchanan MSNBC shill clip.

1:59:29 This is when Nixon won in 16. I think it's Newt. I think Newt's going to try. Newt? Newt, I think you're going to go with the brains. No way. Let me say. Watch this. Newt thinks. Newt thinks. Chris, Chris, 1980, the real, the sensible choice was George H.W. Bush because people wanted to get rid of Carter and he was safe. Instead, Republicans went for, now that's the danger. But Reagan was a heavyweight. Well, Reagan was also somebody about whom there were enormous questions right to the end of the campaign. you got it but keep quiet would you just for a second shut up slave you don't account for people who respond to the heart not

2:00:04 not mean don't sit down to get to the heart. Oh, here's the thing. No, no. And people will get to the Republican heart. How can he's got a battle? Bobby can Patrick J. Buchanan. We're on the line here. You think this is a battle for the heart of the Republican Party, the conservative movement and the battle at large here? The big battle. I say the big battles between three. I think Romney's the establishment. The heart takes the establishment and the the last stop. Stop. I can't take it. as for the one is the worst thing i've ever seen out but anyway the uh... you can is promoting the idea that how could be or pale in the only two people that you know they and they show up well in the polls only people are valid is and there's no one else trying to validate these two idiots who have no chance in hell of ever beating obama in a

2:00:49 million years. Palin is a dummy. She gave up on her, she couldn't even be governor for four years. I don't care what all the Palin fans out there and Huckabee still thinks that you know the earth began six thousand years ago so he's like a and he's a preacher for a Baptist preacher we don't need that as president. So the point is but what the interesting point is that they're starting to slip in especially on MSNBC is the equation that Palin is like Reagan she's just like reagan because he's you know he had to see you know he wasn't expected to be the president when the fact of the matter is ronald reagan went back he was a union organizer and a democrat he was an actor

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Politics as Show Business, The Handsome Fractal

A theory is proposed that modern politics is a "fractal" of show business where physical attractiveness is the primary qualification for office. The hosts discuss the aesthetic appeal of Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, and Sarah Palin, noting Barbara Bush's comment that Palin is "beautiful." They conclude that in the "Gitmo Nation," looking good on television is more important than policy or experience.

barack obama· mitt romney· barbara bush· milf· aesthetics

2:01:29 and they were in early he was an early and i don't know what help for he's formed at this screen actors gil he's responsible for all sorts of political stuff since the thirties actor or not he was always politically active he was governor of california two terms as i recall he was always doing something he was really almost gonna run for president in the in seventy six and he said he was bumped out by the opponents. You know what John, you know what this is? There's no connection between Palin and Reagan is my point. I have to disagree. What? You're telling me that a one-half term Alaskan governor who's dumb, I know you're a big fan of his, I knew I'd get into a debate about this, who can be equated with a lifetime, essentially a lifetime politician whose job happened to be acting, you're saying that's the same? I am saying this is a fractal.

2:02:23 And the fractal goes as follows. Every 30, 40 years or so, we have to change the perception that politics is show business for ugly people and you have to bring in someone handsome. That's the entire extent of the fractal. Has nothing to do with the political background or what they've done. It's like we've got to get a cute person in there. That's what it's about. You're a handsome against handsome then because Obama's a good-looking guy. Right, so there you go. It's a mega-fractal. It's called Obama. Have you seen everybody else? Everybody else is hideous. Yes, I know, but I'm just saying you might be right with your theory about the handsome

2:03:08 thing being necessary every so often but we've got that it's called Obama he's the handsome one. Right, so the fact... Nothing but handsome everybody has to be good-looking now is that what you're saying? Thank you very much. That's the whole point everyone has to be good-looking. It has to be good-looking. By the way Romney's not a bad-looking guy he looks like Treat Williams the actor. you go you all you're doing is solidifying my point whoever your point is that whoever you're obviously missing my point which is just to say the simplicity of it Palin is not a good candidate duh but I play the part here here's here's Barbara Bush on Palin

2:03:51 What's your read about Sarah Palin? I'm almost done here. I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful. Thank you, done. End of clip, that's it. And I think she's very happy in Alaska and I hope she'll stay there. She's beautiful. This is the whole point. Yeah, okay. John, I'm sorry. That's fine. I just saying if you want to run this woman and if you want to support her, that's great Don't don't misread me at to Brutus no way I'm just saying that the the only qualification for president of these United States of Gitmo nation is you are beautiful. I

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Hawaii Five-O, Bad Acting, The Kill Point

The hosts critique the poor acting in the "Hawaii Five-O" reboot and the TV series "The Kill Point." Despite the low production quality and "bad acting," they admit to getting "sucked in" to the narratives while watching on DVD. They discuss how music and visuals can compensate for poor performances in modern television dramas.

hawaii five-o· the kill point· john leguizamo· donnie wahlberg· netflix

2:04:31 That's all. Done. You look good. You're not only good, you're a good looking black man. You're a good looking lady. You're fantastic. This is great. MILF! That's one mother I'd like to f***. That's all that counts. We needed a MILF. Where did that horn come from? I don't know. Alright, I'm gonna change the pace and I'm gonna play the... Every week I like to play a bad acting clip. And here's Sarah Palin once again. Hey, this won't be Palin Again, I've decided to make the bad acting clips all from the same show constantly because it's the worst show on television I think the Hawaii five-o just play this and tell me you know, you can tell me what you think of the acting here You got that extra pint of blood pumping through your veins. Give me that big boost

2:05:13 No, it's about Jackie and Armin Karr and shooting three people. Your fingerprints. They're on a blood bag at the doctor's office. Look, my girlfriend does housekeeping for that building. Dr. Kingkirk travels a lot, so I use the office sometimes to supply doping equipment to the triathletes. Help them draw blood. You might have found one of my bags, but I don't know anything about blood. You know I listen to that and I'm longing for a commercial

2:06:01 I need a commercial quick the worst you know one of our producers recommended to me that I watched the kill point I think is what it's called and I thought it was a movie that show I thought yeah I thought it was a movie was it a movie no so Mickey ordered it and with through Netflix and by the way disc one and I guess disc two is coming after we send back disc one thank you Netflix and it turns out it's a TV series that ran on I forget but it's with all the USA Network. Yes, I like the fuse or something and Donnie Wahlberg stars in it son of a son older brother of Mark Wahlberg of course of entourage and Donnie Wahlberg was the lead singer in New Kids on the Block so I know him well and he's gotten a little pudgy and so I'm watching this thing and by the way John Leguizamo who's an amazing actor it's like and we're

2:06:54 And we're watching it like, Mickey this is a bad television show we're watching. And then it ends and like, oh my god. And then, you know, episode two comes on and three and we wind up watching four episodes before we finally quit. But what was amazing is it was really bad acting, but as we watched, and we probably watched for about two hours, we got sucked in. And and the bad acting just kind of went away. There are some really good actors in it, but the majority is just really really poorly done and But it's interesting because they keep breaking away for commercial But there's no commercial because it's a DVD and it just goes kind of fades to black and then comes back uh... but very interesting way to go yeah but very interesting how this this poor acting can still suck you in somehow i i i was mostly with the visuals in the music that's why you know it is a sound originally is you pull that out you pull the visuals that out you can pull out the music and he just listen to it and it's terrible yeah now you know that then the visuals are good it's uh... at the actually some good stuff in that uh... uh... in that uh... in that series and some interesting stuff

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio, Russian Soft Power

The use of Hollywood celebrities to soften the image of geopolitical interventions is discussed, citing George Clooney's work in Sudan. Russia is reportedly adopting this strategy, with Leonardo DiCaprio meeting Vladimir Putin and identifying as "half Russian." The hosts predict DiCaprio will soon be used as a spokesperson for Russian interests in regions like Chechnya.

george clooney· leonardo dicaprio· vladimir putin· sudan· chechnya

2:07:57 You know how whenever we... Okay, so here's my assertion which I think you kind of agree with. Whenever we're gonna go kill some people for oil or something else, we got to bring in our guy, right? To make everyone feel good. And that would be either George Clooney or Harrison Ford or someone else. But Clooney... Harrison Ford is not doing the job. No, he's no Clooney. So we're gonna go kill people in Sudan again because we gotta go get that oil out of there and then we bring in Clooney, go to the White House and you know and we set him up and he's working. He's a good guy. Because even the elites feel bad. I mean, hey, we're gonna go, we gotta get this oil out of Sudan, but we have to kill some people. I feel bad about that. Yeah, me too. Hey, call Clooney. Hey, George, how you doing? So Clooney comes over and he'll do a benefit or whatever like we did for Haiti. But Russia is now taking a cue.

2:08:50 And you know who they have? The Russian spy girl? No! Leonardo DiCaprio! He's working for the Russians? Oh yeah! Well he's half Russian apparently. I didn't know that. Yeah, he had a whole meeting with Putin. brother yeah I had a whole meeting. Is he registered as a foreign agent? He has to be. I don't think so but there he is. If he comes out and says one thing that's you know that has anything to do with the Russians he has to register as a foreign agent. He's over there sitting with Putin on the couch and DiCaprio revealed the two of his late grandparents were Russian and he has always wanted to bring his grandmother to St. Petersburg I guess that was a little too late

2:09:38 then he called himself half Russian as the Novosti News Agency reports here. And so there you go, Russian agent, former Soviet spy, Leonardo DiCaprio. Interesting. Well we'll be hearing from him on behalf of the regime. You watch, I'm calling it right now. The Russians are going to go kill some people somewhere Let me think, I'll just take one. Georgia, there's a couple other ones, and then Leonardo is gonna do a benefit. Well, Chechnya, Chechnya, you don't bring this guy out of the woodwork, out of the blue. You have to start small, so it's gonna have to be Chechnya, which we're slightly sympathetic with because they're terrorists. So DiCaprio can come out and say something about that and we're all gonna agree with him. Yeah, oh, Leonardo.

2:10:32 He is, I gotta tell you, handsome man. Another handsome man. Leonardo DiCaprio, just a handsome devil. That's a good call. I'll give you that one. Because I will agree with it. If you're at all... We'll just watch. I mean we can put it on the prediction list but it's going to probably happen sooner than later. Maybe happen in 20 days for all we know. Wow. Yeah, I'm still freaked out about that. Let me just play that one more time, that clip. Set it up one more time for us, John, because that's a great clip. Yeah, this is the guy who was the ex-Congressman who was always the head of the Armed Forces Committee, Duncan. and uh... he uh... was on a handy defending the tsa with you know the typical bull crap that these tia duncan hunters his name you look him up on wikipedia that it was she's you know what you do you have to and then he just drops a bomb in the middle of nowhere

2:11:18 big as though it was on his mind here we go to the night i get really i really trust it's not really a constitution you have to have a way to to detect explosive i mean that's that's a key no one's against i got a tech them up enough explosive the the kind of explosive they could run about dogs so all of it you could be i'm sure there's ways they can do this but it is you know there's a there's a little bit uh... I think it's done very unprofessionally. What we've seen, the horror stories of bad stuff, you gotta remember while we're sitting here there's people fighting in Afghanistan right now. Some of those young guys in Helmand province will be dead in 20 days because there's heavy firefights going on. We're Americans and we're asked to endure some inconveniences. Unbelievable.

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Mail Steward, MySQL Email Databases, Thanksgiving Sign-off

Adam Curry describes his migration away from Gmail toward a local MySQL database using a program called Mail Steward, which allows for near-instantaneous searching of 300,000 emails. The show concludes with the hosts sharing their Thanksgiving cooking plans, including recipes for yams and kosher turkeys. They sign off with their traditional "Soviet spy" and "Silicon Valley" personas.

mail steward· mysql· gnu pgp· gmail· turkey recipe

2:12:08 Well, we'll keep our eye on that one. 20 days, we're on December 15th right after the bank run in Europe should be interesting. And I'm always wondering, you know, you have somebody like, is Hannity so disconnected from his people there that he's just blathering, you know, the Democrats and the Democrats, does he never hears this stuff? Because if you're like hosting and if you're interviewing and this guy says something like that, why don't you pounce on it? What do you mean in 20 days? Because he's an MKUltra subject. If I ever seen one, if I ever seen an MKUltra it's Hannity and he's of the right age. He's MKUltra. Yeah he is of the right age. Yeah he's MKUltra. Absolutely. Alright Johnny boy I think we can kind of wrap it up. I do want to say and I'll probably talk I'm probably gonna do a daily source code tomorrow the Black Friday edition that I am now I've now completely migrated my email off of Gmail

2:13:06 I am using GNU PGP. I think I mentioned this in the last episode. But I also, for those of you using Macs, this is the outrageously cool thing I've got set up, John. And it actually helped on today's program enormously. There's this program called Mail Steward. And what it does is it goes into your email program, it sucks out your email and stores it in a MySQL database. And then you can search your email, it is almost instantaneous. I am beating Google by 3, 4, 5, a factor of 5 times in speed on searching my email. It's like BOOM! Immediately you get it. And I got like 300,000 emails in the database now.

2:13:51 it's well that's a difference between the cloud and local right but but it's it's amazing that i mean the thing is with the sequel databases is that doesn't really scale for a lot of users so that what i'm doing here really only kind of works if you're uh... if you're doing yourself but it was not that hard to set and it wasn't trivial but it was all that hard to set up and uh... as screw the cloud man i'm loving it this is and the guy who made this program, Mail Steward, you know, you charge like 49 bucks or whatever. So I PayPal him and then I get a note from him, he's like, oh my god, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak? I followed you two guys for years and you're doing a show together? Here's your 49 bucks back. But it's a great program and it's cool. I've actually set it up over the network so it's running on my OSX server.

2:14:47 and I can access it from anywhere. You could even use, what do you call it, PHP My Admin. I'm loving this stuff. We need more of this. You need more people coming up with ideas to suck your email out of your email program and put it into a SQL database. You have not lived life until you've searched your email uh... in a mysql database you would love it john you really would i would because i'd right now the situation is that it's not the control and the i can do cloud is useless i mean you try to search for a within the context of the text the the you know in other words that not the but that the subject lines which you can find mostly right uh... you can't find it is forever skills it just dies in the spot right no i don't do that i can do the entire the in fact i can do it search on the raw email itself

2:15:38 So if I just want to find Dvorak and Kripes, you know, within seconds I've got every single email you sent to me which had the word Kripes in it. Which is a long list. It's a very long list. Alright everybody, well, I'm starting in about, yeah, about an hour and a half from now with my turkey. I've got the Brussels sprouts on the stick. I've got the yams. I'm going to do your yam recipe, John. I've got the bourbon. And I'm doing mashed potatoes, I'm doing corn on the cob, and what else was I doing? Something like that. Yeah, and Christina's coming over, she's gonna bake a cake. Sounds like you're gonna have a nice mess on your hands. I'm very excited about it. It's kind of freaky for me because I've never cooked this big before. Yeah.

2:16:32 Yeah, start at one and you'll be able to take a couple breaks. Mostly getting the turkey and then sitting around for three or four hours and then starting the rest of the stuff. Yeah, it's all about timing. And you? You got the family over? Everybody's here and they're all looking forward to the fantastic kosher turkey that I'll be cooking shortly. We'll say hi, send my love. And coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning I'm the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, the home of Ready Kilowatt, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.