Episode 253 · Thursday, 18 November 2010

Love Pats

Local prosecutors challenge federal airport security protocols as the security-industrial complex faces scrutiny over insider deals and the controversial expansion of surface transportation surveillance.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 253

About this episode

Santa Clara and San Mateo District Attorneys have issued a formal warning to TSA agents, threatening criminal prosecution for security pat-downs that constitute sexual crimes. This local legal challenge emerges as TSA Administrator John Pistole defends intrusive screenings to PBS NewsHour, while Representative John Duncan exposes the security-industrial complex and Michael Chertoff’s financial ties to Rapiscan scanner contracts.

Representative Ron Paul has introduced the American Traveler Dignity Act to strip federal agents of legal immunity for groping citizens during airport screenings. Meanwhile, the Senate passed food safety bill S. 510, granting the FDA and Department of Homeland Security unprecedented control over the national food supply. Global tensions rise as EU President Herman Van Rompuy declares a survival crisis for the Eurozone amid an Irish IMF bailout, and the extradition of arms dealer Viktor Bout from Thailand to New York triggers claims of a scripted DEA sting operation.

Senator Claire McCaskill coined the term Love Pats to describe physical searches during a Senate hearing, a phrase that quickly became a meme of government overreach. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the Hollywood murder of publicist Ronnie Chasen and the strange Illuminati symbolism surrounding the General Motors IPO price of thirty-three dollars.


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CHAPTER 01 / 32 Discussion

Gitmo Nation National Anthem, Show Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 253 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. The hosts lead the audience in the "Gitmo Nation National Anthem," framing the current political climate as one of government-imposed slavery and distraction. They greet the "human resources" in the chatroom and prepare to deconstruct the week's media narratives.

gitmo nation· adam curry· john c dvorak· national anthem· no agenda

00:00 You know Janet Napolitano who refused to go through the machine you say well because of the radiation no because she knows, she's worked in the government. She knows that once he steps foot in that machine they're saving that picture for her dead ass naked and they're gonna use it as blackmail Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday November 18 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 253 This is No Agenda Keeping our eye on all the distractions and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And from the Buzzkill Bunker here in Northern Silicon Valley where it is time to take out the garbage, I am John C. Dvorak

00:46 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Hey, in the morning to you John. In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea And the boots on the ground and our human resources in the chatroom of noagendachat.net Hope your all charged up and ready to go The way your government loves you. I think today John is a day where we need to rise and sing out of full chest for our nation of Gitmo What do ya think? Uh... One more time Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem. You may sing along! In the morning, Gitmo nation We are all charged up to be

01:31 Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond We are hand-distracted slaves with our kid-ponation song Hey, yeah I think today of all days is a perfect day for our Gitmo Nation National Anthem. Yeah and what story do you think jumped the shark? You know it's really amazing to me where all of a sudden now there's this tremendous outrage

CHAPTER 02 / 32 Discussion

Santa Clara District Attorney, TSA Sexual Crime Warning

District Attorneys in Santa Clara and San Mateo counties issued a formal warning to TSA agents regarding controversial airport security pat-downs. The prosecutors stated they will bring criminal charges against security agents who use these searches to commit sexual crimes, evaluating incidents on a case-by-case basis. This local news story is highlighted as a potential "story killer" for the national TSA controversy that has received minimal mainstream media coverage.

santa clara· district attorney· tsa· sexual crimes· pat-downs

02:21 And there must be about a half-a-million people who listen to this program on a biweekly basis, who are going like, uh... duh. We knew this was gonna happen! Hello? How long have we been talking about this John? Half the year? A year maybe longer?! Well, I've come to the conclusion now that this has become the distraction of the week covering up something else. Oh well you know what it's so funny you say that because actually i think he wrote in email as it was a height of and must have received three hundred emails and every single one of them little bit different than actually with uh... with a different link which makes it even crazier there are so many stories out there and then at one point i think u reply to me mail to one of our human resources new said

03:10 Oh my gosh, you know what is going on? What do we actually have to be taking a look at? Distraction of the week I'm no agenda So instead of going right to that, can at least we get clear the decks because I do have a bunch of clips that are necessary too. Because I do have one deconstruction I want to do of our national treasure. Oh our national treasure! Cause I noticed an interesting situation that was starting to occur in the media and then I realized it wasn't starting to occur We've been noticing this for awhile but it was actually at its extreme over this particular topic

03:52 And if you don't mind, I want to start with a little look at NPR's News Hour. Or I'm sorry PBS' News Hour with Margaret Warner covering the TSA controversy No, really they had coverage. Yeah I have four clips Before we even do our executive producer Wow okay? Yeah, I want to get this out of the way And then we'll do executive producers This is gonna transition this is gonna be somewhat thematic for the show because this leads into my thing well at least one Of my theories about what this story is covering up okay all right I have a couple of myself. And i'm sure you'll include the Carnival Cruise line in this which is getting no coverage but more interesting yeah exactly and before we start the clip so I want to play one breaking story that has been picked up virtually by nobody, I call it the Story Of The Week Stop The Presses

04:49 Now, I want... this is to me... This by the way ends the discussion on the TSA as far as i'm concerned even though we're going to talk about it. It's just that and I want you listen to this story Because I think it kills the whole TSA story. But, I want you to listen to this story with two things in mind. How many people do they ask on the street? Well, how many people go out and say well I think this is a good idea or bad idea... Again, with this particular story how many government people did they talk to and with this particular story did they talk to the TSA, did they talk to the screeners OR is this story a story killer

05:27 Is this a story killer that they're gonna push the whole thing under there just get rid of it and get it out of here play. The district attorneys in Santa Clara and San Mateo counties issued a warning today to airport security agents who performed those controversial security pat-downs, the DA's say agents cannot cross the line. The procedure is performed when passengers opt out of going through full body scanners. The DA's say they will bring criminal charges against security agents who use the searches to commit sexual crimes, they say the charges will be determined on a case by case basis. Okay that's it? Where is the discussion? End of discussion So meanwhile this story ran only in a couple of TV news outlets

06:13 And some newspapers out in the middle of nowhere. I didn't find it, maybe it's running now on SFGate, you know the big papers? You know, I have not seen this story anywhere and I think I got just about everything No no haven't seen it...no! We don't need it! No we've got too many stories backed up we don't need this killer story Alright, do we have to do this Margaret Warner stuff before we get into it? Well actually let's do that. We have a lot of executive producers so let's do them then I'll do the Margaret Warner deconstruction because i'm telling you this is completely out of control people luckily are not all of our listeners by the way some still seem to be somewhat

CHAPTER 03 / 32 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Value for Value

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donations from executive producers, including Brendan Matheson in Bangkok and a donor from Norway near the North Pole. Other contributors like Michael Tanger, Sir Larry Lee, and Guy Boazzi are thanked for supporting the independent media model. The segment includes a discussion regarding missing challenge coins and the "de-douching" of various listeners through their financial support.

brendan matheson· michael tanger· larry lee· guy boazzi· donations

06:53 In the dark about what's happening to them, but many of them are quite alerted. Yeah We want to thank some people who have financed today show that our executive producers Along with the people who are normal subscribers and the rest of them But we do have a two executive producer standalones both and one two three see one two three four five six six count of six wow executive producer wow okay and they all everybody came in at the last minute too which i found interesting so uh brendan matt everyone was way too busy yeah trying to find something to anyway uh-huh brendon matheson uh in bangkok thailand came up with 456 dollars and 78 cents hi guys I'm sending some body scanner thoughts via email

07:43 Which he did, and we're actually going to discuss a few of them because we think the whole thing is over. Anyway Brendan Matheson 45678. And then we have our Gitmo Nation North Pole brown cheese. He sent me a picture by the way where he lives Yeah? Oh my god, I have to forward this to you. Did he get the picture? He sent it to you and then sent it to us? Well yeah we've been emailing back and forth but he lives in Norway very close to the North Pole And uh... he took a six second exposure out of his window It's just breathtaking John when you see this is Snorterstain It's breathtaking! Actually I replied to him and said dude that's breath-taking He said imagine on your snowmobile with your rifle on your back

08:34 That's the life, man. We gotta get up there for hell yeah! Hell yeah! Eat some reindeer yum yes indeed $400 pose your TSA now obey your Constitution keep up the great work to referring to this no agenda show The World's Greatest Podcast Michael Tanga Sally Victoria Australia In the morning, John and Adam looking at getting some of that sweet sweet karma in a de-douching. Yeah we got that You've been de-douche Should we give him some karma at the same time? Whatever... You've got Karma And now you get a bonus for his He gave us $275 in the morning John and Adam as he's got this deduching Shout out to my MadeByUpstart.com

09:23 Buddy's Rudy Sam and Josh for showing me the way of the no agenda. That's interesting a little value for our value And I down payment for some future night action love to show thank you Michael Tanger For now tang pronounced Tang are tanger tanger cue East Melbourne actually, Melbourne Larry Lee sir Larry Lee actually granite shoals Texas two six two five three has a new level of giving idea he's donating 253 for episode 253 great job exposing Fox News as the government propaganda mouthpiece. Democratic government propaganda mouthpiece whatever happened to independent media? Well let me see John how you doing I'm fine so far we are the independent media my friend apparently yeah that's it isn't that sad is not a sad state of affairs You got two old guys who are, oh we are the independent media

10:16 Guy Bozy in Tel Aviv. All right, 229-74 Hi my first name Guy Bozy guy American pronunciation as in hey that guy stole my carbon credits Women got a guy boy Z a boker tough Boaz II was he bought the top key Boise Last time I donated John gave me my name a real ride. This is the third time I donated by the more I mispronounce names the more they donate what am i supposed to do keep it coming second donation was via The original challenge coins which I never received Everybody got their original ones, but this guy and we have To follow up on this this is becoming a problem Yeah We have a real problem with the 1010 ten coins and um were very aware of it

11:00 Yeah, thanks for your hard work in keeping us awake. I hope this donation will work out for me to get some more work since one of the projects i'm working on is coming to an end and I have nothing lined up uh Sir Shane Brady Plattsburgh Missouri $200 Arthur Kessler Calgary Uh in the morning John Adam I was once a douche bag but donating has made me realize that I need a de-douching You've been dedouched and he wants to make, remind everyone to opt out on the uh... opt-out day for the airport. That's gonna be a mess by the way where we have to talk about what our predictions are what's going happen roger herrington san diego california two hundred bucks want to thank all our executive producers for this week show yeah before we

CHAPTER 04 / 32 Discussion

Free Talk Live, TSA Agent Prank Call

A prank caller identifying as a TSA agent contacted the radio show Free Talk Live to mock current security narratives. The caller claimed that Al Qaeda is recruiting five-year-old blonde children to become "panty bombers" and urged listeners to follow a parody TSA account on Twitter. The hosts praise the effort as a successful PR initiative and name the caller their "PR associate of the week."

free talk live· tsa agent· al qaeda· panty bombers· prank

11:48 Move any further, there's only one PR initiative which I will not play in its entirety but I encourage everyone to listen to the most recent episode of Free Talk Live which is also broadcast on our national treasure. As a TSA agent, did you see the air quotes John? A TSA agent... That's very funny. Called in with I'll just play a bit of it but it is awesome. Someone claiming to be from the TSA In Idaho your on Free Talk Live Hello! Hello good evening guys Hey what's your name I'm a TSA agent, and I don't want to give my name. But I want to say in the morning to all your international listeners... And also that I have a lot of time because i'm calling for my break So I'll just go ahead if you just let me finish. I'll let you respond up and I'll get off here. Okay sure

12:36 I'm a TSA agent and i have no agenda. I like to think that im objective but i hope that... By the way at this point, Im already on the floor right? In the morning! I have no agenda. Someone should call in and defend the full body imagers of enhanced fat downs because you guys seem to be only giving one side of the story And if you want by the way TSA updates You can go on twitter to TSA Agent and follow them there. No, I don't want that I'm privy to some of the intelligence that you guys might not be. For example, we know for a fact and it's indisputable that Al Qaeda is currently recruiting five-year old blonde haired blue eyed boys and girls

13:13 I don't think it goes on like that. But just as one bit, but i don't think the guy's actually listening? The host is he's like you know he's polishing his nose... No and we're actually right because there's the other guy who's his sidekick who about halfway through says hey this is a gag this guys just putting us on yeah I mean cuz so he just said yeah it's a well-known fact Al Qaeda is recruiting five year old blonde haired blue eyed boys um and they're training them to be panty bombers okay what did you say? To be panty bombers? Panty Bombers? What huh? Anyway, I highly encourage this type of behavior and TSA agent is in the chat room at noagentachat.net and indeed follow him on Twitter tsa agent that is Fantastic if only he could have slipped the URL in that would have been even better But I think this was a valiant effort and it's certainly our PR associate of the week all

14:01 Our standalone executive producers Brendan Matheson, Snodda Stain thank you so much for your support of the show. Our associate executive producers Michael Tanger Sir Larry Lee Guy Boazzi Sir Shane Brady Arthur Kessler Roger Harrington all of you thank you it's a real credit and unlike Hollywood will actually vouch for everybody else You know what to do go out propagate that formula loud and proud! Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Ah Yes, you know I woke up before the alarm this morning John. I was just like I am so happy I'm so happy and unfortunately

CHAPTER 05 / 32 Discussion

TSA Protest T-Shirts, Conan O'Brien Ratings

The discussion shifts to the public reaction to TSA screenings, specifically the "Don't Touch My Junk" t-shirt trend, which the hosts criticize as a superficial response from "slaves." They also analyze Conan O'Brien's move to cable television, comparing the lower production values of cable networks to major broadcast networks. A comparison is drawn to the decline of the "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" series after its move to USA Network.

don't touch my junk· t-shirts· conan o'brien· cable television· production quality

14:58 I came to the realization that in these United States of Gitmo Nation, when we're really pissed off about something. When we're really angry what do we do? We make a t-shirt dammit! That's right that seems to be the most emailed article is oh look at this great T shirt don't touch my junk How stupid are some of the slaves out there? That this and oh I've got pasties It's like did the minute something really horrible happens, and everyone now knows about it. We make fucking t-shirts Sorry for the early f bomb But it just I just is like unbelievable that that was emailed more than anything else you know this cool t-shirt man I'm gonna wear this t-shirt when he's actually doing him Stupid slaves

15:43 So, uh... that is a dumb thing. There was some humor by the late night talk show host I thought the funniest joke was done by Conan we can play that it's amusing Oh yeah? You wanna play that now? Okay hold on a second Hey this guy refused to be patted down by airport security and some people are calling him a hero That's right! Personally i don't mind being patted down by airport security but i dont like when the guy says Now you do me Is anyone watching Conan I don't think he has any ratings. I think it's like people are now realizing that kind of so apparently his first night He actually beat Leno and sure, of course But I bet that's got to taper off man That just can't last if the show doesn't have the right energy and it's also got the wrong vibe this you know There's a thing

16:33 you do notice and you know it, I know it is that the difference between quality the quality of network big networks huge its huge yeah oh yeah and it's not just it's not just be production values it's the entire staff. It's the staff, it's the promotion I mean he has got billboards up here on Sunset Strip but the billboards aren't really...it him in an owl okay looks the same alright I'm reminded of the time they took, uh... they took what i thought was one of the best shows on The Law and Order series which was Criminal Intent with D'Onofrio as the actor playing a kind of crazy guy

17:16 And they decided to do a joint venture with USA Networks. So, they let USA Networks obviously produce the show and they were obviously producing it using video instead of film... The quality just... I mean the storylines that changed the theme song for no good reason to something crappy? Exactly! It just went right down the tubes with the, I think NBC grabbed some of the production back but... I mean i've never seen anything so... And all these you know there's a lot of stuff that runs on cable and except for these special

17:53 Kind of well-produced shows like Mad Men which they don't really do a lot of episodes Of and they run like with which really only makes its money because of the international distribution Because there's no one watching that here either. Yeah, but at least those shows are watchable Most of the stuff done on the cable networks is not as just crappy quality. Don't put enough money into it Yeah, it's just cheap their cheek All right gotcha all right gotcha all Alright, let's get back to this. National Treasure! The National Treasurer comes out with a little report on this and they bring of course the head of the TSA who is a total douchebag come on and they ask him questions that he doesn't answer but it's very interesting the structure of the report. Pistoli?

CHAPTER 06 / 32 Discussion

PBS NewsHour, John Pistole TSA Interview Deconstruction

The hosts deconstruct an interview between Margaret Warner of the PBS NewsHour and TSA Administrator John Pistole. They argue the interview was a rehearsed "bamboozle" where Pistole used "intelligence-driven" buzzwords to avoid answering direct questions about passenger blowback. A specific moment is highlighted where Warner makes an assertion about body cavity searches that Pistole simply confirms without further elaboration.

pbs newshour· margaret warner· john pistole· tsa· body cavity

18:38 that guy? Yeah, Pistol Pete. Pistole. Pistol Pete. Yep, pistole. Right. It's pistol at the extremes but anyway so they start off... I'm not gonna play though thing was long this is a long package it was a good seven eight ten minutes maybe right well let's start with the beginning so they get you in the right mood which is the playlist, it's the PBS OK with that clip. This is a... they interview couple of people and then they let some woman go on and on forever with her opinion about the whole thing and that's the setup For the for the interview that follows But other air passengers sound more accepting I'm actually okay, I think I'm very confident in TSA and the precautions they've taken security measures and I believe it's necessary you know just given you know recent events and The current times. It's just if it's necessary

19:32 I'm okay with that. Right, of course you want to set up your guest and you want to stroke him right? He's like get them ready! Okay hey look you know what the slaves are into it dude so it's gonna be a breeze that's a little signal to your guests saying don't worry yeah well the thing is the guest was done in a separate filming oh even then I could just be gonna look like it beside the point the guess is on the guesses on NPR and hello did they need to be told anything hello not like us doing it Alright, so anyway. So they go so let me now that I'm not gonna play all these as one I'm gonna play two questions that were asked of this bonehead and

20:08 Now, listen to the question. I want everyone out there when they watch these packages, listen to the question and listen to the answer. There is zero response of the question. There's a question that's let out and by the way do not play the entire answer here because it goes on and on because by the time he's done you have forgotten the question i guarantee it. And you will have forgotten that he never answered the question. She asks a question and its a wide open question and he gives a lecture this is Margaret Warner Question Number One I sat down with TSA Administrator Pistole this afternoon, shortly before he testified. Administrator Pistole thank you for joining us Thank you Margaret glad to be here Did you here at TSA underestimate the level of blowback and anger from passengers over these more intrusive screening procedures? We are a risk-based intelligence driven organization and knowing that anytime we make changes in the protocols that we use to screen passengers

21:05 in dealing with the latest intelligence that we have to do a good job of informing the public as to what were doing without providing a road map for the terrorist. So he doesn't answer, can I you know that's very interesting John because i watched the entire congressional hearing which and that is part of the big distraction and I recorded couple clips and Pistol Pete there addressed the slaves regarding this. Do you mind if I just kind of weave that in? No, drop it in! Alright so here's Pistol Pete from the TSA addressing the slaves As we begin this busy travel season next week would like to take just a moment to address the traveling public and all those who are focusing on this issue right now To make sure that the core mission of TSA Homeland Security really the US government is to keep the traveling public safe

22:02 Over the past year, we have seen further attempts by terrorists to attack subways aviation both cargo and passenger. And as we talk about aviation and being informed by the latest intelligence We know that terrorist intent is still there As we've seen manifest...We know their capabilities in terms of the concealment The design of improvised explosive devices So we are using technology and protocols to stay ahead of the threat and keep you safe alright slayings there you go you're saying that i like a little thing she keeps using the word intelligence and technology and technology by and technology sounds a lot like uh... vivet kundra is no talking in the kitchen cold all in our area

22:44 Yeah, and skip logic. It's just a bunch of crap there are a bunch of words out there and it's intelligence driven by the way is the most ironic thing because you don't even need a high school diploma to be in the TSA so what kind of intelligence-driven operation are they running? Well you do need a GED You need an equivalency No yeah, GED is okay I think... Yeah no no I've checked it There's apparently an exception rule in there that says they can just hire you anyway Oh really? Should they have a shortage of staff Yeah, because we do obviously there's so many you know the employment is so low in this country You who was telling me that there's a waiting list for the Los Angeles area TSA because everyone I would be Everyone wants to see the actresses naked. Was it oh? That's a great idea yeah No, I would Part-time gig I'm in I could use the money

23:32 Hey, hey, hey! Hey Miss Heigl. How you doing? Oh yeah baby. Okay so uh there's been one of the pilots forums of course somebody said over here one of the pilots from SkyWest over he was going through his daughter over we got a cutie we got a cutie come on I got a cutie get ready So anyway, so here we go with another question from Margaret Warner's extreme question number two And this is again listen to the question note that he doesn't answer it. There's no follow-up on her part by the way on any of this She just asked a question and then he goes onto a lecture which I'm believe me I cut way short But he goes on with a lecture and blah blah blah and did this is a classic This is what they're doing now Now secretary Napolitano said yesterday well if people don't want to fly they have other means

24:23 of travel, but that isn't really practical is it for a business person? If you have two flights and then you have the option going on the two and you know the one people been thoroughly screened And the other plane, people have opted out and not had a thorough screening. So you don't have that confidence I think virtually everybody is going to go with the flight that has thorough screening Very interesting John he said the following during the congressional hearing We've seen some public attempts to dissuade travelers from using AIT and thats understandable Again, the bottom line is that if there are two flights going to the same place at the same time and you have an option of getting on one that we know has been thoroughly screened. And then you have another flight where there's no screening so you can just get on it and go without lines or anything I think everyone will want to opt for a screening with assurance that this flight is safe and secure. No, I don't think so! As long as its a reputable flight crew, Im on it dude! No lines, im gone, im out of here

25:23 Yeah, me too. So he says the same thing it's a pat answer He's a pat answer but the question that was not her question wasn't the question again of course it wasn't the question Almost like I'm sorry. I close it up here we go of course It wasn't the question now second Napolitano said yesterday well if people don't want to fly they have other means of travel But that isn't really practical is it for me see so but he does answer that in the congressional hearing In fact, that comes up time and time again because the answer is of course To take the train but you know what? I think he dropped the ball on this cue here

CHAPTER 07 / 32 Discussion

High-Speed Rail, TSA Surface Transportation Expansion

TSA Administrator John Pistole confirmed during congressional testimony that the agency is reviewing "surface transportation" priorities, including passenger rail and mass transit. This aligns with President Barack Obama's vision for high-speed rail, which he previously marketed as a way to avoid airport-style security delays. The hosts predict that the "security-industrial complex" will eventually implement scanners and pat-downs at train stations and sporting events.

high-speed rail· tsa· surface transportation· barack obama· passenger rail

26:02 Well, this is all rehearsed. There's no doubt in my mind about it. Yeah yeah well so this whole congressional hearing John was all about the expansion of the TSA It wasn't...the cover up here was about the scanners and enhanced pat-downs and advanced imaging technology but the hearing was actually about expanding funding for the TSA for something they call Surface uh... allow me to interject with this we continue to work with our international partners bob on the number of issues as it relates to both passenger and cargo flights and again what more could talk about in that regard

26:39 I want to briefly update you all on my review of TSA's surface transportation program priorities because that is a significant issue that we are addressing. We continue to work with surface transportation providers, particularly passenger rail and mass transit. Okay, surface means rail. What did we predict John? We said that you will be going through scanners when you get on the train Remember that? Yeah. Oh yeah, but do you remember- We were way on the way away! That was months ago But you know what I finally have a legitimate reason to pull out this clip from July of this year from our president of these Gitmo nation states What we're talking about is a vision for high speed rail in America Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city no racing to an airport

27:28 And across the terminal, no delays. No sitting on the tarmac. No lost luggage. No taking off your shoes. No taking off your shoes No taking off your shoes. We'll hold you to that, Prez! No taking off your shoes when you put another $500 million dollars... a billion dollars Yeah and then the schools are after that? Exactly and the supermarkets and your sporting events That's what- Oh sporting events absolutely Can you imagine these guys can you imagine Chertof group and these guys rubbing their hands together thinking about all the sales they've got if we just put a stop to this protest oh yeah

CHAPTER 08 / 32 Discussion

Lou Parker, TSA Radiation Comparison Claims

KTLA reporter Lou Parker is criticized for a commentary segment in which she claimed that airport body scanners emit the same amount of radiation as a cell phone conversation. The hosts dispute this comparison, arguing that such media reports are intended to pacify the public regarding the safety of x-ray technology at airports like LAX.

lou parker· ktla· radiation· cell phones· lax

28:08 Come on, man. World Series game! Oh we've heard bad things are gonna blow up the stadium Yeah that's right It hasn't been an incident for almost 10 years and this is going on everyone was playing along and coming out I mean i post stuff on my blog in these apologies oh we gotta be better to be safe than sorry oh my god they're gonna kill us all if we don't do this We need security What is this country coming to? Now I'm going to get finished with Margaret Warner. So she's asking, she asks a kind of question the guy doesn't answer and he goes on with a long-winded answer blah blah blah now that one question he answers it's real quick but it's not really a question The way PBS has been doing this because we've noticed before in the past they will ask a question when they want somebody

28:53 blather on, then they'll make an assertion. In other words it's not a question it's the statement of fact that the person just is allowed to agree with and then we're done with it! That's the nature of The Last Question which by the way... The Last Question at least in this clip-fest But, and by the way this is the most important one but they you know they don't want to dwell on it. You don't want to dwell on it you just want to get out of the way so that you can say you asked... I asked a question at least I'm a journalist It's not even a question its an assertion and then get it out of the way then go back to long-winded answers This is Margaret Warner gets an answer. But these new methods don't catch something hidden in a body cavity Correct That's it! That was it? That's right thats it. Its in the body cavity

29:36 That, well... It's not a question. She didn't ask it she said it! No no no its a statement And he said correct That's correct So now can't be quoted by the way Oh right The only quote from him is correct Right This other stuff where long winded sentences were he can be, well I said this and they could quote him because there was a long series of wordage but just the word correct gets them off the hook Good dissection That's right. So that was also set up and rehearsed I can already see the TSA PR person saying okay now we really want you to ask about the cavity please ask about that and then he knows it's coming, yes correct You are correct

30:23 Anyway, it's structured very interestingly and but the fact of the matter is this is just a bamboozle the public And keep them you know was passive and submissive in doing what the government says now I think what we should do here before You know because I think this has done this topic. No. I have just a couple more funny things well I have one more to which I just had to throw in Let me throw mine in before you get to yours Because I this is the one that annoyed me the most I blogged about it. I'm irked about it This is Lou Parker Who's Miss USA, who is a hottie who works for KTLA and she throws out a matter of fact commentary while she's covering the guy who said don't touch my junk. Really long package it was about not the junk but the... Oh hold on sorry about that

31:10 not in the morning. Six minutes but she throws this comment in that I just went what and I blogged it and I got a bunch of people saying well with millimeter waves even though its x-ray machines at LAX they went on and on about defending this woman who's an obvious idiot to make this comment play it over the weekend John Tyner refused to go through a scanner that by the way emits just about the same radiation as his cell phone conversation rather he chose the alternative, a pat down You know, okay. So now there's some important information because I did watch the entire hearing on C-SPAN It is what we do so you don't have to and it was quite tedious And of course they pulled a million clips which will not play but so the question of radiation is really what's next because what's happening now? Is that

CHAPTER 09 / 32 Discussion

TSA Machine Testing, Johns Hopkins Radiation Studies

A deep dive into TSA safety claims reveals that the agency relies on commercial trade organization standards rather than mandatory government testing for its scanners. While Administrator John Pistole cites Johns Hopkins and ANSI studies, the hosts argue that the specific machines used by L3 and Rapiscan have not been independently verified to adhere to these non-mandatory safety protocols. They express skepticism regarding the long-term health effects of frequent radiation exposure for travelers.

johns hopkins· radiation· ansi· safety standards· l3 communications

32:05 Basically everyone's like, okay look this you know the opt-out day which is a fun initiative But it's not going to help because what it does actually drives the slaves into these scanners and the scanners There's two points about I think we've made them quite clear one is If we allow this to continue with the scanners at airports, then it's going to be everywhere. Your life is going to be one big walk through the scanner please which is just like so total recall... It's complete outrage and the second part is how safe are these scanners?

32:42 And this question of course was addressed in the rehearse congressional hearing which is probably, the whole thing is probably scripted and written by Dick Wolf. And a couple very interesting answers came out of it. Yeah first Senator one thing that we did not I did not do good job communicating is that children 12 an under are exempt from the enhanced pad down so... Okay now this of course is a lie Because we know it's a lie and even if it's not a lie where they get the group 13 year old girls Yeah, 13 is okay. It's well you know the Vatican You're allowed to have sex with thirteen-year-old boys That's the Vatican law so anyway let's continue that's one issue because of just concerned about dealing children in transition The as far as radiation exposure I would just again defer to what those independent studies did looking at

33:34 types of populations including children, pregnant women elderly and things like that which found that the exposure is well within safety standards. I guess, Mr. Administrator So he keeps quoting Johns Hopkins and the American National Standards Institute And I did all the research You can go back and find that it's all in the show notes at noagendashow.com under the heading TSA The TSA never has actually had the machines themselves they're using tested They have a report from the Health Physicians Society Standards Committee, which is a commercial trade organization who say well you know certain levels of radiation are okay. So again they're playing into their own vocation and profession and if you look at the TSA website

34:32 They talk about the ANSI HPS N43.17 standard and they say all machines will have to adhere to this standard so I go look at L3, I go look at RapaScan nowhere in any of their materials do they say that they actually adhere to the standard. I go to the standard website and it says uh... the aniseed hps n forty three seventeen is not a mandatory standard more information on the enzi standards setting processes available at the end the website if you just go around in round in round round believe me these machines have not been tested they had said ok here's the standard and here's the amount of radiation that that it can have

35:14 that will not be harmful to you but of course, they said eggs were bad and eggs are good. Eggs are bad and eggs are good. Blue jeans will give you cancer. Blue jeans won't give you cancer. The earth is flat the earth is round so that could change But the machines themselves, nowhere can I find that these machines adhere to the so-called standard which is not a mandatory standard. So it's a complete lie he keeps just throwing out this Johns Hopkins study and uh... the American National Standards Institute and they just keep going round around they have not been tested and all of the clips i pulled the guy says that they've not been tested now To wind this up a couple funny clip because first of all

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Claire McCaskill, TSA Love Pats Meme

During a Senate hearing, Senator Claire McCaskill coined the term "Love Pats" to describe TSA pat-downs, expressing her preference for scanners over physical searches. Senator Jay Rockefeller also appeared briefly before leaving to attend to healthcare legislation. McCaskill further praised the Department of Homeland Security for its handling of the H1N1 virus, a claim the hosts find absurd given the agency's primary focus on security.

claire mccaskill· jay rockefeller· love pats· h1n1· homeland security

35:58 Do you know who was chairing this committee? No. Rockefeller, and Rockefeller of course we know how evil the Rockefellers are he makes an opening statement And then he has to leave because he has something very important to do. This hearing will come to order My opening statement then as I explained to the distinguished witness I have to go rescue The health care bill in the finance committee where it's going to be assaulted on all sides. Okay, so he is way too busy rescuing the healthcare bill you frickin elitist prick! What a... what an ass Then we have the shill Claire McCaskill who is from I wanna say Missouri?

36:46 Where's Claire McCaskill from? I can't remember where she is from, something like that. And she introduces a new meme John! Oh yeah the pat down meme it actually well i wont even say the word I cant believe she said this in a congressional hearing. A job on public education and like Amy ummm...I have had my love pats every single flight which at least twice a week for the last four years of my life because I have knee replacement So I am wildly excited about the notion that i can walk through a machine instead of getting my dose of Love Pats. so, um...I think we've got to work on this make sure that the traveling public has choices make sure they understand the risks that were trying to address and then I think we can uh... majority Americans I think, I hope will become supportive of the measures that TSA is trying do keep us safe.

37:42 You know do anybody out there that's in that woman's district vote her out and the love Love Path is a little old place. She's excited about going through the machine, really? I'm excited because of the love path! Even Napolitano knows well enough not to go through the machine You know Janet Napolitano who refused to go through the machine you say well because it was radiation No she knows she has worked in government She knows that once she steps foot in that machine they're saving that picture of her dead ass naked and their gonna use it as blackmail So Claire McCaskill takes it one step further because of course whenever you have someone testifying, you always have to congratulate them right John? No matter what. You and your team. Congratulations for being here! Great job, you know you saved us from exploding toner cartridges and there's more that we need to thank the TSA for John I want to take the remaining time in my opening statement To congratulate the Department of Homeland Security We have a tendency in this process to focus on the failures of government

38:40 And there have been some real successes. I think the way the H1N1 virus was handled, while many Americans were very frightened for a number of weeks, I think that a good job was done there. Yeah great job by the TSA Department of Homeland Security for the H1N1. What? Is she crazy?! Yes! yes everything in this country is becoming homeland security everything is a matter of security it's about being safe secure your government has to take care of you please the democrat hey by the way maybe she knows she could have been at least funny saying I like to go through them scanning machine because I'm from the show me state that's that's funny alright then there's uh... couple love

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Representative John Duncan, Security Industrial Complex

Representative John Duncan delivered a floor speech criticizing the $300 million expenditure on airport scanners, labeling it a matter of money rather than security. Duncan highlighted the role of former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, whose firm represents Rapiscan, the company selling the scanners to the government. He characterized the arrangement as a "sweetheart insider deal" involving former high-ranking federal officials.

john duncan· michael chertoff· rapiscan· federal contracts· insider deals

39:31 So first of all, the real answer to all of this is this all has to stop. All the craziness and don't make T-search Don't opt out Vote these idiots out! That's what has to happen You've got a vote people out you've gotta stand for election and you gotta change fundamentally because if you watch... And there is link in show notes It's hour and half you can watch the hearing it's sickening! It is completely sickening how uninformed these people are How they're shilling literally shilling for these machines and of course the people who are not on the security committee well they're the ones that are actually standing up and saying something really important. Mr Speaker a nation... I'm sorry this is Duncan, Representative Duncan. ...a revolt is developing over the body scanners at airports and it should hundreds of thousands of frequent flyers who fly each week are upset about getting these frequent doses of radiation

40:24 Parents are upset about being forced to have their children radiated or being touched inappropriately by an unrelated adult. There is already plenty of security at the airport, but now we are going to spend up to $300 million dollars to install 1,000 scanners. This is much more about money than it is about security. The former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff represents RapaScan, the company which is selling these scanners to his former department Far too many federal contracts are sweetheart insider deals. Companies hire former high-ranking federal officials and then, magically those companies get hugely profitable federal contracts. The American people should not have to choose between having full body radiation

41:07 are a very embarrassing, intrusive pat-down every time they fly as if they were criminals. We need a little more balance and common sense on this." Yeah! Hell yeah! Right hell yeah Now who's that? That is Duncan Representative Duncan Well Duncan should be reelected Duncan should be... Did you see Ron Paul speech?! Oh yeah, it's on the blog. Dvorak dot org slash blog check it out It's outstanding Yeah a little too long to play on the show although its exactly five minutes but he literally ends up by saying I think we probably should just play the last like thirty seconds of what he says because Play the beginning and then interrupt it I mean...it is so incredibly good Gentlemen recognized for five minutes Thank you Mr Speaker I rise this evening to announce that

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Ron Paul, American Traveler Dignity Act

Representative Ron Paul introduced the American Traveler Dignity Act, a one-paragraph bill intended to remove legal immunity for federal agents who engage in "groping" or taking nude photographs of citizens. Paul argued that the American public has become too submissive to bureaucrats and that buying a plane ticket should not require the sacrifice of constitutional rights. He suggested that members of Congress and the Executive Branch should be forced to undergo the same intrusive screenings as the public.

ron paul· bill of rights· fourth amendment· immunity· groping

42:00 introduce some legislation today dealing with the uh... calamity that we have found at our airports with tsa something has to be done everybody's fed up people are fed up the positive setup i'm fed-up yeah you know i've come to this floor many times over the past many years and had to be called a kook Which is a kook. He's just a kook don't listen to him he's crazy He's Republican by the way, which is kind of interesting plain about the terrible foreign policy We've had the terrible monetary policy we had The excesses spending and the debt and also the tax policy But what we're doing And what we're accepting in putting up with at this airport is so symbolic Of us just not standing up and saying enough Is enough

42:48 I know the American people are starting to wake up, but our government—those in charge—Congress as well as the executive branch are doing nothing. Yes they're talking about maybe backing off and allowing pilots go through, but can you think how silly this whole thing is? The pilot has a gun in his cockpit! And he's managing this aircraft, which is a missile. We make him go through this groping... Nice little 9-11 reference there I love it. Xray exercise having people feel in their underwear It's absurd! Yes! And it's time we wake up the bill of introduced will take care of this but we have to realize that the real problem is that the American people

43:31 have been too submissive. We have been too submissive, it's been going on for a long time and this was not to be expected even from the beginning of the TSA and it is deeply flawed! Private property should be protected by private individuals not bureaucrats But the bill that I've introduced will take care of it. It's very simple, it's one paragraph long. It removes the immunity from anybody in a federal government that does anything you or I can't do. If you can't grope another person and if you can't x-ray people and endanger them with possible X-Ray, You can take nude photographs of individuals. Why do we allow the government to do it? Which is beautiful because we've been saying this for months now John Yeah This is exactly I think It's just a couple more minutes might as well play the whole thing because not everyone around all of Gitmo Nation has seen this this beautiful speech by The what was he 75 now almost

44:34 75 years old he's been in Congress for three decades then always while and consistently called a kook I voted for him by the way we would go to jail if an individual hit be immediately arrested of an individual citizen went up and did these things and yet we just sit there and calmly still say oh they're making us safe and besides the argument from the executive branch is that when you When you buy a ticket, you have sacrificed your rights. And it's the duty of the government to make us safe. That isn't the case! You never have to sacrifice your rights. The duty of the government is to protect our rights not to use them and do what they've been doing to us

45:17 The pilots, hopefully you know will be exempted from this. But another suggestion I have that might help us let's make sure that every member of Congress goes through this and get the x-ray take a look at the pictures and then go through one of those groping pat dogs And then I think there'd be a difference. Have everybody in the executive branch, anybody a cabinet member make them go through it and look at it maybe they would pay more attention but this doesn't work. This is not what makes us safer this is preposterous to think that the TSA has made us safer you know when you think about

45:56 If you look at what's happened over the past ten years, during this last decade we lost 3 thousand on a terrible day for America. But since that time in this last decade we have also lost 6 thousand of our military personnel going over there and trying to rectify this problem. We have lost 4 hundred hundred thousand people on our government-run highways. We have lost a hundred and fifty thousand individuals from homicides, so I think there's reason to be concerned, reason to deal with this problem. We're not dealing with it the right way. We're doing the wrong thing and groping people at the airport doesn't solve our problems. What has solved our problems basically has been that they put a good lock on the door and they put a gun inside

46:42 That's been the greatest boon to our safety. Safety should be the responsibility of the individual and private property owner, but right now we assume that government is always going to take care of us and we are supposed to sacrifice our liberties! I say that is wrong, we are not safer, and we also know there are individuals who are making money off this. Michael Chertoff – here was a guy who was head of TSA selling the equipment. And the equipment's questionable, we don't even know if it works and it may well be dangerous to our health." You know the way I see this is that if this doesn't change then what has happened to the American people as we have accepted the notion that we should be treated like cattle. Make us safe make us secure put in a barbed wire feed us fatten up

47:30 And then they'll eat us. And we're a bunch of cattle and we have to wake up and say, We've had it! I think this whole idea of an opt-out day is just great. We oughta opt out and make the point get somebody to watch it take your camera It's time for the American people stand up shrug off these shackles of our government at TSA at the airport But these new methods don't catch something hidden in a body cavity. Correct? That's right I got it up my A. Oh Wow anyway So, please don't make t-shirts please vote these idiots out of office, please Petition and start with McCaskill. Oh without but the love Pat someone's got to do a version of

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TSA Unionization, SEIU Labor Relations

The Federal Labor Relations Board has ordered an election for TSA agents to choose a union representative, though the agency maintains this would not include collective bargaining rights. The hosts discuss Glenn Beck's theory that the Obama administration is using public pressure on the TSA to force unionization under the SEIU. They argue that TSA employees are "lowly slaves" with few other job opportunities in a high-unemployment economy.

glenn beck· seiu· unionization· collective bargaining· labor relations

48:19 uh... of the love shack with a love pat you gotta mix her in and do like an auto tune or something That may be something for GX to he could do that. So there's tons of other stuff I'm not gonna play any clips, so I'm not gonna play just want to say former and just the stuff that is in the show knows former TSA assistant administrator Mo McGowan saying hey Yeah You got to give up your Fourth Amendment rights to be safe New Jersey New Jersey legislators who are saying hey screw this states rights we're gonna fight it good luck The DA's, the underreported story about the DAs is the key. So if anybody out there feels that they've been grabbed

48:59 uh... you just go to your local district attorney's office and tell them what happened, and say you're going to prosecute this because it is going on in San Jose and San Mateo which is SFO. But I think that's futile John. You know maybe futile but you start getting enough of these people doing it. I mean Penn Jillette supposedly gonna be doing this in Las Vegas No no dude! I made the same mistake that was from 2002 That was a really old blog post he never followed up on as this role does the and i made the same mistake i didn't realize it was a blog post was going around right now final but first i don't believe is dated is it yeah they have to do this night i missed it anyway whatever the case is yet one of them you say would give these guys we're gonna talk a big game has district attorneys in a variety of these offices are our elections when lot of him but john did when uc this hour-and-a-half of testimony please watch after the show

49:53 you'll your heart will sink down into your heels because like god they're all on board and they're all about it's all about expanding the tsa to uh... forty s a surface for rail four of shipping for freight four subways for trains for uh... as well as deals with truck cell machines at this point is all the cell machines and this is the spoke this former fbi spook who he could not have chiseled the guy more like a spook. Like, hey I'm gonna make a sculpture of a spook let me chisel oh it's pistol Pete! It's so obvious that it's just and they're all they're all corrupted they're all stupid

50:35 They're all at best under-informed. They have to go and these are our representatives of our government, we've elected these people to represent us and if they don't get a clue if they don't change their attitude nothing will change you can bring lawsuits whatever Go make some t-shirts stupid slaves walk through with your t-shirt It radiated everywhere you go. You're gonna be walking through a scanner and the funny thing is about that rapid scan one, which is the one that's wide open They should somebody point out in one of those like eight feet away. You can actually see Everybody in the area and by it which is again? You know the now, you know The thing I brought up last show was that I think that the TSA should unionize so they can wear dosimeters

51:22 And I listened to Glenn Beck, who went on and he thinks the whole thing is about getting them unionized because Obama's administration is all SEIU run. Well do you know... The idea is to get these TSA guys so outraged at all the pressure being put on them that they have to unionize and it's another coup for the unions. Well there was some talk about that, the unionization in the congressional hearing and the guy says yeah we're working on that you know where you have really got to do something because work we may let him unionize but not too uh... not to negotiate a contract is the last thirty seconds of it listen to what your representative says federal labor relations board is ordering TSA to have an election

52:08 Yes, so the election decision basically says that we should have an election for exclusive bargaining with one bargaining unit. One union but not for purposes of collective bargaining. So just for purpose of representation which frankly doesn't make a whole lot of sense. We're working through that and I'm confident that we'll have a good way forward I'm glad you think it doesn't make a lot of sense. Thank you very much Doesn't make sense don't let him unionize do you take no collective bargaining? And she's not a union if you don't have collective bargaining. Of course not, of course not they're totally trying to stop this and what she brings up is well you know that they could strike with sick outs and stuff like that You know what maybe we need to appeal to the TSA people because these TSAs are just lowly slaves themselves. You can't appeal to them because they know there's no job opportunities outside of the TSA for them

53:08 Wow, they really got us by the you keep it unemployment at 10% or actually real unemployment around 20 percent You're right or higher. Actually, right? Uh, you can't you put these people in these jobs They're not gonna bitch and moan too much. I mean a union would help but they're not gonna bitch and moan because they don't want to go out and hit the streets. So what did you do in your last job? Well I was a TSA guy for the last five years... Oh! Next! So all of this, of course will lead to high-speed rail and oh train would be so good You had a clip last week from Bill Maher with Michael Moore Do you know that they have this thing called overtime on Bill Maher which is on the internet only where they continue the conversation

CHAPTER 14 / 32 Discussion

Michael Moore, High-Speed Rail Travel Time

Michael Moore appeared on Bill Maher's program to advocate for high-speed rail, claiming a train could travel from New York to Los Angeles in 12 to 14 hours. The hosts debunk this calculation, noting that even at 210 miles per hour, such a trip would require a perfectly straight line and no stops. They argue that state legislatures would never allow a rail line to pass through their territory without demanding local stops, which would significantly increase travel time.

michael moore· bill maher· high-speed rail· amtrak· travel time

53:54 Oh, yeah. I should be listening to that. That's gotta be great! Well why don't you listen to this as a As Michael Moore says, you know I took a train from Miami to New York it was 26 hours and it was great. It was fantastic! It was really awesome so listen to the melding the meshing of high-speed rail security and the most outrageous calculation of travel time I've ever heard. A bench? Seriously?! He had a sleeper car but it was a bench and he's laughing about it. This one is actually on the regular show! I'm sorry? This was on the show

54:35 Are you sure this was on the show? Yeah, because I actually was going to clip it but i didn't. He talks about the bench and he mentions the word bed bugs then he does the coast-to-coast thing in 12 hours is what he did. Oh sorry okay... Well that's okay play it! It's a good clip. I just closed it out like I don't want to play it if... But it wasn't in The After Hours Show I thought it was the I thought it was though. It said the HBO listed as overtime all right Well, we'll just play it because then he comes up with this amazing calculation But you know what here's two things about it that were great the train was packed and

55:19 People wanted to take the train. Oh, yeah everybody wants a toy You know bullet train between New York and LA I let her if it was just if it was if you it was an on Express train would take about 12 hours Okay Let me think twelve hours. Bullshit! Twelve to fourteen hours to get from New York to LA, seriously by the time you drive to JFK and wait there then wait on the tarmac then fly here oh yeah then wait on a tarmac at LAS not to mention the indignity of going through security I mean today i saw in the paper that passengers lucky passengers we now have a choice you can either get felt up

56:04 They say, you know like they'll take about three seconds. I guess enough of that comment on this thing Yeah So I did the calculation on that 12 hours thing and it's actually theoretically possible to train if you're in a straight line hit speed and then go straight in at about 210 miles an hour, it could get there in 12 hours. But the fact of the matter is how many... let's just look at the logic that we're talking about We're gonna have by the way I've come up with this idea we're gonna have to start doing this you and me. Just the two of us? Just the two of us! We're gonna come up with talking points just like the Democrats or Republicans do That's why Stuart makes hay with all these repetitive phrases that keep coming out

56:42 on the Jon Stewart show. We're gonna do the no agenda talking points memo, which is just gonna list actual talking points that you can use that the listeners can use at a cocktail party. There's only gonna be five or six of them but it's just the kind of bombs you can drop to dissuade arguers but anyway one thing that got me about this idea that you could make in 12 hours is that do you think a high speed rail running from New York to Los Angeles stealing right-of-way through each and every state that it has to go through, that those state legislative types are gonna say hey wait a minute you're running the train through our state and you're not stopping? Yes.

57:23 You're not running that rail through our state unless you stop and pick up some of our people. But it's only for elitists like Michael Moore who travel from New York to LA! It's only for the elite, don't you see? Shut Up Slave! And by the way I'm going down here and take the train to Sacramento and I'll bring my little camcorder, and i'm gonna show you how many people are on this train that they're all clamoring to get on. The thing is empty! We can't wait to get on the train... ...to the concentration camp!! Okay so anyway, I have a couple of things I want to mention Well so do I but please seniority first First of all, I wanted us two of us to predict what's going to happen on the opt-out day okay? I think there's only two possibilities one

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National Opt-Out Day, TSA Retaliation Predictions

The hosts predict that "National Opt-Out Day," scheduled for the day before Thanksgiving, will result in the TSA purposefully slowing down security lines to punish protesters. They argue that while the initiative is well-intentioned, it may inadvertently provide the "security-industrial complex" with an excuse to demand more funding and faster technology to keep "human resources" and commerce flowing.

opt-out day· thanksgiving· travel delays· security theater· commerce

58:13 Is they're gonna, the TSA people are going to actually slow down the process to make everybody's life miserable. No but first of all let me back up what they should do Because the TSA should be responsible to the public. They should turn off the scanners, turn on the magnometers and go back to the old way and rush people into their planes To do the public a favor and the airlines a favor So they have been doing this I did receive a story of a guy who opted out got three families behind him to opt out And the TSA just went nuts because they had like 12 people opting out Then they opened up the magnometer in a fast line

58:51 So that could happen but opt-out day may be special because it's going to be a lot of focus. There'll be a lot of news coverage so I believe that they're going to, because there are bunch of assholes I believe they're going to slow the process down, let the line go out the door and around the corner and then make all kinds of assertions about how irresponsible this is. People are missing their flights too to St Louis and they wanted to be with family but they couldn't make the fly. And the airlines were probably gonna go along with this cause there are cows so they're going to take off half empty. They don't care because people have already paid for their tickets as two bad you didn't get that at the airport on time we got your money, we get the flight cheaper cause you know what?

59:31 this is what i'm saying opt-out day and this was the disappointing thing about ron paul's uh... monologue it is a bad idea because of the opt out date will only push people through the scanners. It's only going to give more fuel for the entire security industrial complex to push these more, to save us time, to keep commerce this is the word that keeps cropping up... to keep commerce which includes human resources flowing so it's actually a bad idea and I agree with you i think it's going to be horrendous! It is going to be purposefully slowed down. I think you're right

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Food Safety Modernization Act, FDA Control

The Senate passed a major food safety bill (S. 510) with a 74-25 vote, granting the FDA and Department of Homeland Security unprecedented control over the food supply. The hosts link this to the "Codex Alimentarius" standards and argue that the $1.4 billion bill is a distraction from the TSA controversy. They suggest that controlling the food supply is a fundamental method of controlling the population.

fda· food safety· codex alimentarius· senate· hr 5101

1:00:13 Alright, well there's a little argument there. There is no argument for me! By the way it might depend on the local airports... The ones that went out in San Francisco definitely will be slowed down Seattle I'm not so sure because they're actually pretty friendly up there and anyway enough of this topic please enough already This is terrible this topic is killing us because we have other things to discuss Yes like the Codex Alimentarius bill which of course was rushed through yesterday ummm....in the house this is the uh... food safety bill h are five all one i'd believe images double check at five one oh i'm sorry uh... this essentially gives of the fda but also the department of homeland security complete control over your food and that this is one of them any distractions that the opt-out to a naked body scanners has provided for um... senators voted uh...

1:01:11 74 to... The Senate or you said House? I'm sorry, it's now in the house. The senate voted 74-25. Uh, so... 74 people voted for this thing?! Why!? Only 25 against! Who are these people?? They're total fucking shills!! Total shills!!! Ah thank you very much Hold on i'm just receiving my coffee Which is still uh valid, I can still drink this. Department of Homeland Security hasn't screened it yet So my favorite news story this week is they decided to legislate against alcoholic beverages that have caffeine in them. And I think the first thing I thought of and none of these news coverages brought it up, oh really?

1:01:55 Irish coffee which is a traditional drink served in bars for the last hundred years, it's now illegal? It's illegal absolutely. But this is but the whole point is they now will have once this passes in the house they will have complete control over your food and its all for your security. Now I will say because I've looked at both sides that considering how our food in general is made, the stuff that the human resources in general consume you kind of need it because we've got nothing but factories of chickens, factories of cows, factories of pigs factories of everything genetically modified. It's so crazy and outrageous and so industrialized that you actually...you gotta have some kinda safety because its not real food

1:02:46 It's dirt with chemicals mixed in and genetically modified stuff so you think it tastes good, and it is not real food. But now they have or they will have complete control... And by the way its a 1.4 billion dollar bill I guess that to up the homeland security. Das Hinterland needs more security John! For what the slaves are going to eat? So they don't eat tainted products. And we saw this coming, we saw this with the... Well you actually one of us thought it was coming about a year and half ago Two years ago when the Codex Alimentarius well of course that became official in 2009 in Gitmo Nation Europe United States of Europe but now they'll have complete control over your food When you control people's money You control people's food Let me think Oh yes! You control the people

CHAPTER 17 / 32 Discussion

Raw Milk Crackdown, Aspartame Ant Poison

The FDA and Washington State authorities are reportedly cracking down on raw milk dairies, which the hosts view as an attack on small organic operations. A listener's anecdote describes using aspartame to kill ants, leading to a discussion on the toxicity of artificial sweeteners and the CDC's recent warnings about excessive fluoride in drinking water.

raw milk· fda· aspartame· fluoride· cdc

1:03:35 Yeah, well my wife has been on a kick because the FDA's been given new powers and then Washington State they're cracking down left and right on raw milk dairies including one that basically shut down and tried to ruin them. They could find nothing wrong with this place because most of these places are hyper clean which is actually a good thing and these they're just their busted their bust in balls left and right these guys I mean there already stepping on you know small operations are gonna close down a little organic places I mean it and the organic food movement which is now actually dominated by what this with to Michael Pollan calls big organic which is like whole foods and if you look at near what supposedly healthy in there you find is a lot of

1:04:19 grape seed oil based mayonnaise and other things that aren't healthy at all necessarily. So, while I'm on this kick for a second of course what is approved thanks to Donald Rumsfeld is aspartame and Human Resource and producer Eric sent in a note. Hey guys! I was at the grocery store with my wife and two kids who's 11 & 3. I saw box of...a box yes literally a box labeled aspartame you can now just get the poison in a box I have drilled into the kids, good parenting by the way Eric that they are not to eat the shit. So my 11 year old says look they are selling that poison! so we talked about it and decided to go buy two mice and feed one sugar water and one aspartame water. So he went right to the pet store bought 2 mice, they get food and their respective water mixes

1:05:12 I will let you know how it turns out. The problem of course is the three-year old has fallen in love with the mice and keeps crying, I don't want them to die! You can do these kinds of experiments with three year olds. To which i reply Don't worry according to the FDA they'll be just fine My next experiment will be to get some high fructose corn syrup, but not sure how to get my hand on some of that shit. I am videotaping the experiment and we'll let you know what happens. And there's another awesome link which you can read about Put this stuff up on YouTube. I mean it's as good as anything from the government Oh totally We should be doing, we should encourage more home experimentation on mice Well here is a woman who made ant poison from Aspartame Living in Florida and being invaded by ants and she decided to make some Ant Poison of her own She mixed it with raw honey 3-4 parts raw honey to 1 part Aspartame Fried them! They're all dead This is great pictures

1:06:13 Aspartame killed the ants. That's good, at least it is useful! And while we're on the topic the actual CDC Centers for Disease Control has now come out and says you know too much fluoride may not be to good for ya along with the American Dental Association it actually can kill yeah so have a nice drink of water that's also in the show notes at noagendershow.com And then while we're talking about the ministry of good for you, because that's my new ministry that I've made up. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood says people using cell phones in cars is really dangerous and by the way the government is now selling their stock in one of the big car companies General Motors

CHAPTER 18 / 32 Discussion

Ray LaHood, Cell Phone Scramblers in Cars

Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood has proposed mandating cell phone scrambling devices in all automobiles to prevent distracted driving. This proposal comes as the government begins selling its stock in General Motors. The hosts frame this as another example of the "Ministry of Good for You" treating citizens like "stupid slaves" who cannot manage their own safety.

ray lahood· general motors· cell phones· scramblers· distracted driving

1:07:02 and he intends to in the future, I'm not sure if it's the near future but to mandate cell phone scrambling devices in all automobiles. How about that huh? Really smart! It'll save a lot of lives again just another way to protect you stupid slave You can't take care of yourself we've got to do it for ya Thank you Lahood fascinating just fascinating well it's back to the depressed is less depressing as a fact that we got some donations this week and maybe we should go to those for a minute I think that's a grand idea John still want to thank some of our donors who helped produce this show with their kind

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CHAPTER 19 / 32 Discussion

No Agenda Subscription Model, Value for Value

The hosts introduce a new "dollar an hour" subscription model for commuters, suggesting a $4 weekly donation for the four hours of content produced. They emphasize that this "value for value" model is the only way the show remains truly independent and free from corporate propaganda. They thank the executive producers for their continued support.

subscription· value for value· independent media· donations· podcasting

1:13:41 Now you had a new thing going on. Yeah, if people want to donate you go of course to Dvorak.org slash NA or the noagendashow.com channel dvorak.com slash na and this time I've decided which one experiments have people who especially the commuters who listen to this show and you compare like what would you pay for us a DVD or even a download of an iTunes hour Typically, it's to get in hours worth of material for a dollar is what I'm thinking here and so four hours a week. we do four hours a week for people especially in your car driving along and $1 an hour seems like a reasonable price. We actually do more closer to five hours but okay yeah you know it's not it's not 5 right its 4 plus yes the rest is bonus right but we do you know Lee, we do a minimum of four hours a week that people can use when they go back-and-forth at work or whatever they wanted however they want listen to show generally speaking as commuters who have

1:14:39 You know the time that they're stuck in a car and you don't want to listen to regular radio Which is terrible full filled with ads and propaganda and uh... for i figure dollar a yesh to dollar an hour that they did collected on a weekly basis which would be four dollars a week uh... is it isn't interesting idea that might appeal to some people who um... who are actually benefiting from the show in that way and so it's now available as a as an item on the uh... to work dot org slash n aid donation pillage sir for four dollars a week is that the uh... yes for those of you know i think that's uh... value for value right on I think it's a reasonable deal and we really want to thank everybody our executive producers associate executive producers everyone else who supports the show this is the only way this show runs and it's the reason why we are truly independent media

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1:16:15 Please support us. I can't plea any more than that by saying please so Yemen of course in the news because of the the toner cartridge filled with Yeah, some kind of stuff. We don't know what we don't really know what but powder apparently The plot was so nailed the plot was foiled Oh Please go and watch that that that TSA congressional hearing you will you will get angry You will laugh you'll cry you have to watch it they talk about that too a lot actually its used as a weapon to get leverage to get more money

CHAPTER 20 / 32 Discussion

Gulf of Aden, Stargate Earthquakes

Adam Curry revisits his theory regarding a "Stargate" in the Gulf of Aden, noting that 48 earthquakes have recently occurred in the region. He points to the presence of 300 international warships off the coast of Yemen as evidence of a significant, undisclosed event. The hosts joke about fish coming through the portal from outer space to replenish Earth's oceans.

gulf of aden· yemen· stargate· earthquakes· warships

1:16:55 So Yemen of course has been very interesting for a while and they talk about Yemen as well, you know this pistol Pete there went off to Yemen five days after the plot was foiled. He literally says we FOILED THE PLOT! It was supposed to explode over the East Coast and they just really make it up as they go along. But a lot of weird things going on in Yemen, do you remember John what I said about Yemen way before Yemen was en vogue? Before we had Al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen? Do you remember what I said about there were 300 warships in the Gulf of Aden off Yemen? Do you remember what that was about? Yeah some sort of an exercise wasn't it? No it was the Stargate

1:17:39 Oh, right. Ooooooh! The Stargate. Wow, there's an artwork waiting for this commentary. Now did you notice that just in this past week and a half there have been 48 earthquakes in the Gulf of Aden? 48 earthquakes now of course... Well okay but what's the baseline though how many earthquakes do they normally have in the Gulf of Aden none none none none none They don't have earthquakes it's in the gulf And all of a sudden, and this is right off where the Stargate is supposed to be I think the thing's being activated. I think it's opening up! And it would make a lot of sense You know what's gonna come out? What? Fish Yeah Could be But This how they keep replenishing the Earth's fisheries It could be Fish come out of the Stargate from outer space

1:18:32 Well, there's a couple of interesting links and I air quotes on the interesting but please have a look at the links about the earthquakes. You know before all before i started talking about The Stargate uh... no one's reminding me by the way cuz i have forgotten yes no one talked about uh... yemen no one talked about the gulf of aden now we've got three hundred warships there weaving for all intents and purposes invaded this country of was it uh... three four million people uh... we've got to tsa homeland security does hinterland security we've got them in there you got the cia and their we've got to everyone's looking for uh... al-qaeda on the arabian peninsula this clearly something going on and yes all would be the top of the list but right down there at point one point one point five i'm putting a the gulf of aidan stargate so um... there you go that you know what don't say i didn't call it no now something and that was very local to uh... to hollywood

CHAPTER 21 / 32 Discussion

Ronnie Chasen Murder, Hollywood Whackers

The murder of Hollywood publicist Ronnie Chasen in Beverly Hills is analyzed as a professional assassination. Chasen, who specialized in Oscar campaigns, was shot five times in her Mercedes with no signs of a struggle. The hosts connect this to Randy Quaid's claims about "Hollywood Whackers" and organized crime syndicates that target wealthy celebrities for their estates, citing Michael Jackson as a previous victim.

ronnie chasen· beverly hills· oscars· randy quaid· michael jackson

1:19:41 Oh yeah, now this is... before you go to that if you want to do this story I know what your going to do. We might as well run my weekly Thursday real news segment a clip of all the teasers that you find on The Extra Show or one of the Access Hollywood, I pick a different one every week which includes this story. William and Kate today joking around in their first interview since getting engaged. We'll sort of get over the marriage thing first, then maybe look at the kids. Flashing Diana's engagement ring, the parallels between Kate and Williams mom is she the new Diana? I would love to have met her A shocking murder mystery after Cher's burlesque premiere Why was this Hollywood exec gunned down in her Mercedes on her way home

1:20:36 Redford's new confessions about Streisand. What did Barbara Streisand just say? Oprah's rare tour inside Streisand's estate from the mini mall in her basement to the color-coordinated koi fish. The fish, of course have to be black and white. Dancing drama Bristol slamming Levi Brandy breaking her silence about her deadly car crash I was called a murderer killer Today's big rumors did Jen Aniston sneak inside a Broadway show? And by the way, I want to mention that because the family will get a kick out of this. I have a mini mall in my basement Unfortunately is not that well organized So under the heading star Hollywood whackers in In the show notes at no agenda show calm very very interesting and

1:21:36 So let's re-brief people on the basic premise here, which is based on Randy Quaid. Well actually it goes back to Michael Jackson who I believe was killed because he was worth more dead than alive and of course that's also in today's Hollywood Whackers corner which is my little mall here in the basement that whenever there's money involved, there is organized crime and let's face it you can probably hire someone to whack a guy for 50 bucks so for $50 million I think it's possible. So Ronnie Chasen is a Hollywood publicist and she...so the news hit I think Tuesday

1:22:16 and that uh... she had been shot dead in her car five shots to the chest which is a new mean by the way you got two to the head or five to the chest um... in her own mercedes and then their mercedes kind of gently crashed into it into a lamppost now he was in beverly hills above all places where this doesn't happen very often and it was so clear that this was an assassination because there were no... her passenger window was rolled down, there were no entry or exit bullet holes, no shattered glass. So it was straight into her chest I mean this is a real whack job! And heavy too! This has all the hallmarks of Yugoslav or Russian

1:23:03 assassins. That's kind of how they do it, you know? They'll come up and say hey roll down the window and it could have been someone she knew so lots of speculation but I look into Ronnie Chase and she does...she has a very interesting type of job. She is very specific kind of publicist in Hollywood. She organizes the campaigns for the Oscars Now, when the Oscar season is coming up and the way it works is you want to make the Academy very aware of how successful your movie is.

1:23:39 So you hire a reputable PR firm or publicist and they will promote, they'll create an entire campaign around the movie. So that means parties and billboards and special screenings... You know what this is? Booking! A lot of booking. Yeah big big business And I've googled around for Ronnie Chasen The only thing i could find she's got a big mouth and I think that mouth got her dead because when you have millions maybe even hundreds of millions of dollars riding on an Oscar nomination and or win, i think it's simple. And this is what its come down to the mob has taken over Hollywood and they really don't give a crap

1:24:20 They will kill you. They'll kill you for any what she's doing too good with that Let's just kill her now of course this could also be a very sick promotion for the movie with Cher and Christina Aguilera But I you know Wow That is out there It's possible now the other thing that's possible is possible The other thing that happened this week, which is one of those incidents? I think not after years Of Steve Jobs trying to get the Beatles on iTunes Finally they arrived and of course this is after Michael Jackson is dead. Well no coincidence, that's no coincidence

1:25:00 You know, because now of course his catalog... there's no resistance. Even though he doesn't actually own the specific rights I don't believe that he owns a specific rights that have held that back. I think with all the ancillary deals that are being made The way this deal fits together it was kind of handy that he couldn't say No or whatever so you know just one of those oh how handy! Incredibly handy Well, they're probably not going to catch the guys. They have no clues and no suspects. They got nothing on the hit. No So it's a professional job and that's the end of it. We'll never know. But Randy Quaid who said look there are gangs in Hollywood, there is organized crime, they are out to get me, they're out to take my money And if I don't shut up then they will whack me... I think he's right! The poor guy, he's right! And I hope Canada gives him asylum

CHAPTER 22 / 32 Discussion

Haiti Cholera Outbreak, Clinton Foundation Finances

A cholera outbreak in Haiti has killed over 900 people, leading to violent clashes between protesters and UN peacekeepers. The hosts criticize the William J. Clinton Foundation for committing only $1.5 million to the crisis despite raising hundreds of millions. They note that the foundation has failed to publish its Form 990 tax filings for 2009, suggesting a lack of transparency in how relief funds are spent.

haiti· bill clinton· cholera· un peacekeepers· form 990

1:25:55 And I hope he continues to do great movies up there in Canada. Well, that's where most of the movies are made anyway probably for that reason Little Haiti update John some news there Cholera death reporting from the New York Times cholera deaths are up in Haiti with the worst to come Remember now this is remember you texted all of your little messages And we all watched with tears in our eyes as all of your Hollywood's for the favorite celebrities pleaded for the money and We raised hundreds of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars billions Up to eight billion promised to rebuild Haiti but there's one little problem we have all those irritating Haitians in the way and we reported on this that cholera doesn't just pop up it has to be introduced death toll now in Haiti 900 the government reports over a thousand already I've got a little add-on to this story okay well let me uh... which is kind of a you want finish? Well, let me just finish with the details

1:26:59 uh... so that's what the new york times reports then we go to reporting from the bbc as a Haitian protester was shot dead by UN peacekeepers. Now look at all the, if you have a chance to look at the pictures coming out of Haiti and now it's a war zone. It's a war zone! The peacekeepers shot him dead! Can you get a better headline than that? Here it is literally November 16 2010 BBC Ministry of Truth Haiti protesters shot dead by UN peacekeeper I mean does that fuck with your mind or what?! Is that the most outrageous thing you've ever heard in the world? At least one man has been shot dead in clashes with UN peacekeepers. Peacekeepers, hey we're here for your peace man don't worry about it now however help is on the way John

1:27:47 Because remember that when President Obama, who was involved in the huge fundraising for Haiti which of course we can't actually get these people out of the mud and tents. Oh no! We can't do that with it were too busy funding the peacekeepers He brought in former presidents Bush and Clinton to ask you for money Ed sorry not money for cash and it went on yeah Now right now all we need from people if you can't be part of a medical team or a search-and-rescue team

1:28:23 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. Just send your cash that went directly into their foundations because the helphateyenowfund.org had not been set up yet. By the way, number 15... It passed? No it's still not up there! and I could not find the Clinton Foundation Form 990. It needs to be filed by... it cannot be any later than the 15th of November. Wait a minute, that can't be! I'm telling you it can't because we've gotten email from people criticizing our condemnation of this foundation

1:28:59 saying that as soon as the 15th rolled around, it would be a done deal. Well today I think is the 18th and it's still not up on the website so... Interesting! ...I'll have to go hunting around however there is a little news bulletin from yesterday Port-au-Prince Haiti today The William J Clinton Foundation announced it has committed 1.5 million dollars What? Yes, 1.5 million dollars! No no no that must be billion. No no, one point five million dollars. You're wrong you're reading it wrong because he collected over three billion he wouldn't be giving him one point five million. Even better for the longer term oh I mean this is such a mensch the foundation is committing 500 thousand that's half-a-million to support the implementation of an aggressive national education and awareness campaign Oh yes hey you slaves in mud be aware

1:29:48 Just be aware, be aware. Don't drink the water because you don't have any other water? Here's a flashlight. You horrible, horrible, horrible elitist prick you $1.5 million took in hundreds of millions maybe up close to a billion dollars and has not published his numbers yet And by the way I looked at 2008 again Why does an organization that brings in a quarter of a billion dollars in 2008, how hard is it to publish your numbers? They took two extensions in 2008 as well. Because what says right there on the form filed extension three months filed the second extension for three months don't just press a button on your machine or are you too busy fudging the numbers How hard is it

CHAPTER 23 / 32 Discussion

General Motors IPO, Illuminati Symbolism

General Motors returned to the public market with an initial public offering priced at $33 per share. The hosts interpret the "33" price point as a deliberate piece of Illuminati symbolism, mocking the public's exclusion from the "inside deal" while the government divests its stake in the automaker.

general motors· ipo· 33· illuminati· stock market

1:30:39 How hard is it? With all that money you think you can hire somebody. Well, 60% goes to salaries so... It's funny nobody is covering this No one cares Now of course the other distraction which really made me chuckle when I saw General Motors went public today for the second time in their quote initial public offering The strike price $33. Could it get any more evil? Could you get any more Illuminati on me by doing 33 I mean please could you could you just because you like to laugh in my face anymore and don't forget folks we do have a thirty three dollar thirty three cents subscription yeah, You can buy one share of General Motors stock if your lucky because of course you can't everyone else is on the inside on that deal or you could support this show where you actually learn something $33

1:31:35 That really, he really they really shoved it in my face with that one. Like $33! Really? That's the strike price huh okay awesome thank you so much yeah good work well you know anything here's a little add-on to the Haiti story right now because you don't want a bunch of people these Haitians like all of a sudden getting up and get trying walking out either going into Dominican Republic getting on boats you don't wanna do any of that So what you do is you have a cholera case crop up in the Dominican Republic and a cholera case crop up in Florida, one each. Wow to get rid of all the... Now we've locked down the Haitians so they can't even leave their own country Right! They can't no I think that's already in place right? Well it's definitely in place now because we have Cholera in Florida Yeah them damn Haitians are giving us cholera

CHAPTER 24 / 32 Discussion

European Union Survival Crisis, Irish IMF Bailout

EU President Herman Van Rompuy declared that the European Union is in a "survival crisis" as debt issues in Ireland and Portugal threaten the stability of the Eurozone. Irish officials have publicly denied the need for an IMF bailout, leading to tense exchanges with the media. The hosts explain that the central banking system has stripped individual nations of their ability to control their own currency, leading to a "bad debt dominoes" effect.

herman van rompuy· ireland· imf· euro· portugal

1:32:32 My goodness. Shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity We have to move to Gitmo Nation United States of Europe for a moment John because our poet Haiku Herman The president of the United States of Europe, for those who do not know go ahead and wiki it or Google it because they have a president in the US. His name is Herman van Rompuy He's Belgian And he never combs his hair by the way. There isn't much to comb really. He made an important statement yesterday. He said that the European Union is in a survival crisis

1:33:16 and this is a I think this is a big deal. I think there is something really big coming down of course, there's no video of it not that we could understand what he says anyway We're in a survival crisis the president told at an event actually there was a video I could have clipped it I saw okay? I couldn't find it least not quick enough He said this had a think tank Tuesday morning What did you doing on a think-tank but this was right ahead of a meeting of finance ministers free breakfast Yeah good one We all have to work together in order to survive with the Eurozone because if we don't survive with the Eurozone, we will not survive the European Union. So what is happening here? This is the largest economic hitman exercise I've ever seen in my life It's primarily focused against Portugal and Ireland

1:34:07 and both Portugal and Ireland say, well hold on a second we don't want to be bailed out by the IMF. We don't want to take the bailout from the European Union in fact Portugal's Prime Minister Foreign Minister says you know we might have to leave the euro screw this with this is what we're sick of it so war could actually be on the horizon but Dick Roche who was the Irish prime minister showed up on the BBC, the British Ministry of Truth mouthpiece and said it's total bull crap. It is not true we have no problem we don't need an IMF bailout I'd like to share that clip with you John because this is seminal also listen to how the BBC reporter jumps down his throat on this

1:34:57 Like she knows what the hell she's talking about. We have actually been emphasizing that we have a budget coming up and we are about to publish our four year adjustment plan If our budget cuts true in December, we will be in a position by the end of the budget cycle that's 2011. We will be two thirds way to achieving 3% deficit figure so there is no reason, rational reason why should trigger an IMF or EU bailout Well, these reassurances that you're giving to our audiences now are presumably the same reassurances that you've given to the Council of the European Central Bank. But obviously some members of that council better qualified to judge than I am including the Governor of the Bank of Spain are simply not reassured and they want you to take what they call appropriate action

1:35:46 Well, I think members of that council may have different reasons. You mentioned the governor of the Central Bank of Spain. Governors and members of the council may have different reasons which has nothing to do with the fundamental position of Ireland but is more to do with fundamental positions of other states or the EU as a whole. Our focus has got to be on what we are doing and we have made it very clear uh... that we have no intention of of intriguing particularly the i'm f which was the extreme suggestion that was made because we have made adjustments we are intent on making dot those adjustments and we're not prepared now stand by it's about seven years ago

1:36:29 I'm absolutely clear about this. Obviously European finance ministers meeting today, are you saying categorically there is absolutely no chance that you will accept an EU bailout? Because she's of course reading the talking points memos going wait a minute how can this be true this is not the script we have a huge package tonight on the news about how they're gonna be bailed out! This is wrong there is no reason why we should... I've heard you saying there is no reason, but that's different. Who are YOU to talk to a Prime Minister like that lady? Different people have different perceptions and as we've agreed other members of the European Commu... If you let me finish this sentence maybe I think I could clarify it The issue, and you mentioned the central bank governor of Spain. The issue there is relating to bank debt I'm not sure what it's going to... why that issue has bubbled up as it hasn't bubbled up but the matter of our banking debt Our banks have been very strongly supported by the European Central Bank There is no doubt about that

1:37:25 So let me just explain to people briefly what's happening and then we can get off the topic But it is really important because the wheels are coming off the United States of Europe. What happened? Yes, well Can I interrupt for just a course? All right Because I want to ask you since you've got the analysis at this moment as you one thing has a side note Do you think any of this? is punishment of Ireland as a country for refusing to sign or vote in the EU bull crap Lisbon Treaty? Well, of course initially they said no but then they just kept on voting until they had a yes vote. So I think it's partially punishment but Ireland is very very important

1:38:08 uh... for commerce and it needs to be taken control of the in where is all of apple located in that united states of europe in ireland that's where there's no that's for tax purposes of course a lot of microsoft stuff is not an island at arlen very important country but don't this is the bodies of bogus situation they have an office there they pay less taxes if u s government gets screwed out of this money that we would be getting because irish irish abd business taxes are so low So here's what is happening. When the people were, the human resources and slaves were told hey this is a great idea we're all going to have the same money so you don't have to exchange your coins when you go to different country which happens a lot in Europe it's like going from California to Arizona I gotta change my money okay that was how it was sold everyone yeah this good idea now what people didn't realize is that there would be a central bank

1:39:04 known as the Central Bank of United States of Europe. and that they would control the money supply. So what happens when you have an individual country where things aren't going all that great, this is what we've just done in the United States, Gitmo Nation proper is you need to inflate the money supply it's called quantitative easing and basically print some money if you don't have control over your money then you can't control your own economy based upon... This is not the way I think it should work anyway but that's the way it has worked since way before I was born And that's the system. So that power was taken away and what they're essentially doing to all these poor countries, and they are poor countries now is they're squeezing them by the junk! They're squeezing their balls by not letting them... because they have no currency to inflate. They say oh no more money for you sorry about that I'm sorry your and their banks will run dry they will run out of money

1:40:01 And if everyone keeps fighting and now the Netherlands, I have to say, Gitmo Nation Lowlands. It may be some posturing but they're also pissing off Herman van Rompuy Everyone's angry Spain Portugal Ireland The wheels are coming off this thing and they now speak of the bad debt dominoes Which is the meme you gotta look out for. Oh, I haven't seen that one. Bad debt dominoes. You got me, you got me. Bad debt dominoes. I like it! Very well structured. Yeah bad debt dominos it flows off the tongue It's really really nice Unfortunately its not very good But bad things afoot in the United States of Europe And now John finally We've got a new jingle

CHAPTER 25 / 32 Discussion

Viktor Bout Extradition, DEA Sting Operation

International arms dealer Viktor Bout, known as the "Merchant of Death," was extradited from Thailand to New York to face terrorism charges. The hosts deconstruct a CBS Radio report by Charles Osgood, arguing it was a scripted piece of propaganda. They suggest Bout was a "patsy" caught in a DEA sting involving the FARC in Colombia, potentially as part of a larger geopolitical maneuver involving Russia and Venezuela.

viktor bout· merchant of death· dea· farc· charles osgood

1:40:50 Yeah, I heard it. I got no news but i just want to play the jingle So there's another story that seems to be obfuscated by the TSA nothing-to-see here meme going around which I haven't been able to completely dissect But what drew my attention to it was a very screwy report this is about Victor Boot who is the international arms dealer of 20 years standing Oh yeah this was...I did hear one little report about this guy So Victor Boot is the guy that the movie supposedly, the movie Lords of War or whatever it is. Nicholas Cage film about Lord of War. The arms dealer right? Yeah arms dealer big international arms dealers been doing this for like forever says he's just a businessman actually has his own website defending himself called Victor I think its victorboot.com you can check it out because on there there's all the documents and all this stuff and his plea that he's just a normal business guy whether he is or not

1:41:48 kind of beside the point but they decided to go after him and of course once the you know intelligence agencies all get together and go after somebody like this, you can't really do that kinda high-end high profile business without being dragged in if they want to drag you in. And then they decided to do that but I didn't think much about it just as a regular news story until I heard this particular clip because as we've talked about before there are people that are planted by intelligence agencies in the news organizations and generally speaking they only crop up when they're told to crop up under weird circumstances. And so you can usually deconstruct like the New York, you know who's working for the CIA for example at The New York Times? By looking at their storylines and all of a sudden they'll be writing about

1:42:34 children's toys and then out of the blue they come up with some crazy thing that does backing up some assertion that's being made about something that we don't care about this idea very but lots of inside information or somebody like woodward who is just essentially a given whole books to write uh... in his job is to be you know promote certain means about obama and and it's current administration the way it's going now So I was kind of stunned by this particular clip that we're going to play because over the years, I've always heard Charles Osgood on CBS.

1:43:10 and he's got the bow tie, and he is very officious. Oh right! I know who you're talking about He does poetry in his Oz Good Minute. It is usually some feel-good story about you know doll maker in Kentucky Geppetto Some other... it's just really short interesting stories but instead he does this story on the Victor boot bust which is completely out of character, and he does it with a guy who's apparently some expert at CBS. And he does a question-and-answer thing that's structured just like the thing we did early in the show with Margaret Warner asking questions that are not answered

1:43:54 is in one in particular you hear it when you hear this local but there's only a minute or so by need to know which clip it is on scan insist propaganda as good okay uh... you're getting here and ask the question about why was that dvd missus would be where he gets fished actually drew my attention i don't know maybe was supposed to draw my attention to this bust perhaps army may be this isn't attention grabber it's not the negative thing uh... he asked why wasn't the g e eighty that arrested Victor Boot in Thailand with a sting operation. The guy never answers the question, he's not even with the DAs. He is the analyst and if you listen to this very carefully and you listen to this back-and-forth You can tell it's totally scripted It's as though it was one of those old fashioned Remember they used to do radio and they'd send you a big disc Of answers that guy would have And then you just read the question and play the answer and snip it in Yeah! It's called electronic press kit

1:44:52 And this is what this sounds like, and I was completely baffled by it. Now it's drawn me to the story which may be the intent Because this makes no sense that this would run at all. The Osgood file, this is Charles Osgood. Victor Boot a former Soviet military officer and cargo executive who was flown here from Bangkok in a chartered plane taken in manacles and bulletproof vest to New York will be brought to court this afternoon to face charges what is the case of Victor Boot about CBS News national security analyst Juan Zarate? Victor Boot, sometimes called the Merchant of Death, was the premier international arms merchant

1:45:34 everything is edited even his introduction was like I heard five edits in his introduction John and another thing you want to listen for this one Zirotti guy he basically does nothing but say well Victor Booth the angel of death it was a miserable person he just has all these negative things. Angel of Death has huge Nazi connotation by the way He paints a very weird picture this character course again never really says anything that's news it was a resident yet go ahead i'm gonna play again from the top so you can listen to all the edits even in his introduction the osgood file this is charles osgoode victor boot of former soviet military officer cargo executive who's flown here from bangkok and chartered plane taken manacles on board through best new york we brought to court this afternoon to face charges what does the case of that include about cbs news national security analyst ones already

1:46:30 Victor Boot, sometimes called the Merchant of Death was the premier international arms merchant fueling conflicts around the world for almost two decades willing to do business with anyone willing to pay his price. From a dramatic way he was brought here once, I gather Victor Boot is an important case? For many years almost two decades Victor Boot was considered the premiere international arms merchant willing to deal with the devil in every corner of the world fuelling conflicts from the heart of Africa to Central and South Asia If he's an arms trafficker, how is the drug enforcement agency involved? Boot is facing a series of charges.

1:47:09 That's just too funny, John. So yeah but you got to listen to the question and then the answer. Of course not it is propaganda that how you do it. Related to the sting operation brought by the Drug Enforcement Agency where Victor Boot was willing to provide and sell arms to the FARC movement this is the rebel terrorist group in Colombia willing to sell them all sorts of arms he was caught in a sting operation and the charges brought relate to material support to terrorism, arms trafficking related to terrorism. So he'll be tried in New York but why do the Russians seem so upset about this? They don't want a Russian citizen facing a trial in the US more importantly there's speculation that Victor Boot has had long and deep ties with the Russian defense and intelligence community and may have information about Russian complicity in his arms dealings around the world for last two decades. The Osgood file

1:47:58 Charles Osgood on the CBS Radio Network. Yeah, there's something up with this whole deal and I haven't been digging around looking for something. He was actually arrested in Thailand through this DEA sting which makes no sense because you know... yeah but it does make when you look at the complaint which Victor Boot has on his website the government complaint which is actually quite funny to read uh... and the reason that d e a got involved is because they at are making the dea makes i never heard this before by the way the dea makes the assertion in the complaint that the farc folks in columbia or now uh... and i guess have been for awhile and i guess it must have been the case in two thousand eight percent has been going on for years uh... leading exporters of cocaine

1:48:56 It sounds to me like this is a double whammy. So first of all, the guy is obviously a patsy because you know and by the way maybe he was muscling in on our business because we're the best arms dealers here at Gitmo Nation I believe that there's an element of that...I think you're right! I think it was a patsy but I think he wasn't must muscling in or there was something he stepped on somebody's toes someplace So, uh... Because you guys have been doing this for 20 years and now they decide to arrest them? And what does that make it...? Well I think there may be some...I also heard in that report Columbia, FARC terrorism, terrorism, terrorism. So is it time to move into Columbia?

1:49:34 now they said terrorism and the guy where basically again selling weapons to terrorists say if there's terrorist we got it but you need to go there play them move in man we've got yemen that we gotta move into columbia well i think though i think that they're still doing one thing overlooked in all this of course which again this is too much of a web to deconstruct properly because it's too weird i still think this has something to do with chavez and venezuela and no oil at the base of it, because now we're hearing other reports that Chavez is supporting FARC. And you know... I don't know! It's a real mess. All i know is this drew my attention to the story. This story took place during the period of time where were getting distracted by the TSA, The Nothing To See Here Moment Of The Day and it was completely brushed under the rug and its pretty major

1:50:27 Well, we'll see what comes out of it. I think your assassination of this media report is spot on something very fishy about it and its the merchant of death not the angel of death. I also heard this and was like okay something going on but don't know exactly what yet but also it could be that Hillary's negotiation with the Russians has something to do... look! It's all about oil? Its all about guns maybe that's still about gold here and there, and the Russians are in all of that. And so maybe they said oh yeah well why don't we just take your guy? All right now what? Now what are you going to do? We got your guy. We got your main sales guy It's like taking Microsoft Sales Guy Like taking Balmer Yeah, it was like we've got your Balmer right here So what are you gonna do now? Sign on the dotted line okay They're all thugs man its all little gangs and thugs and the Clinton gang and the Bush gang You've got your Putin Gang its all gangs Another thing that was kind of snowed under was The very first Gitmo detainee

CHAPTER 26 / 32 Discussion

Ahmed Ghailani Trial, Microsoft Kinect Privacy

The first Guantanamo Bay detainee to be tried in a civilian court, Ahmed Ghailani, was acquitted on all but one conspiracy charge. Meanwhile, the hosts warn about the privacy implications of the Microsoft Kinect, noting that its terms of service allow the company to collect and disclose voice and video data to the government, effectively placing a surveillance camera in the user's living room.

ahmed ghailani· civilian court· microsoft kinect· privacy· surveillance

1:51:32 Well, he didn't get off but you know this was the whole we're gonna try the guy in civilian court and not military court. You remember this? Yeah so I finally got tried So we acquitted on all accounts except for a conspiracy yeah so in other words uh...you didn't actually do anything but yeah you worked with him Yeah, yeah you conspired so they had apparently a hundred Accusations or whatever. They will you know? What do you call him yeah, what he diamonds and diamonds under them And then they get him on the one have use have you seen this guy? Yes kid There's a bonehead. He's a kid no. It's just a kid it looks like it little punk

1:52:20 Yeah, he probably was only 10 when they arrested him. It's unbelievable posturing posturing posturing speaking of Balmer this Connect thing that they're selling yeah a pretty interesting report If you look at their so when you buy this and there's uh there's a little terms-of-service thingy Microsoft also reserves the right at all times to disclose any information as necessary to satisfy any applicable law, regulation legal process or governmental request. Or to edit refuse to post remove any information materials in whole and part of Microsoft sole discretion

1:52:58 You know this thing tracks your movement it tracks who you are it takes video of you? If you're not expect any level of privacy concerning your use of the live communication features voice chat video communications in live hosted gameplay sessions I don't think you should be using one of these things. I mean, it's so funny It's like it's in your house and is looking at you It's got three cam hello hello I've got an idea Bill. What? You know what we can do, a deal with the government We could put you know the 1984 cameras yeah what about them Why don't we put three of them not one but three of them and sell em as some sort of thing that's supposed to be like a game And they're gonna be hooked on the internet right cause everybody is It's awesome Yeah it's awesome

CHAPTER 27 / 32 Discussion

Home Mail Server, Spam Traffic Logs

Adam Curry describes his experience setting up a private mail server on a Mac Mini to move away from Gmail and improve privacy. He notes the staggering amount of spam traffic—roughly four attempts per second—visible in the SMTP logs. The discussion covers the technical challenges of residential IP ranges being blocked by other mail servers and the importance of keeping communications away from government-accessible cloud providers.

mail server· mac mini· smtp· spam· google

1:53:48 Well speaking of it, yeah. And of course everybody knows that I always put a piece of tape over all cameras. Yeah over all cameras absolutely and i should do that on my laptop by the way I finally brought my mail server in-house took me three days very very interesting exercise mainly because first of all what was very and by the way so if you send me email now you're pretty much secure and it's a OS X Mac on running OS X server running on a Mac Mini which I like because i can just unplug the power cord in the Ethernet and I can take it with me or I can fling into the ocean

1:54:27 That's uh, you know it's like. It's it's nice and portable I'm very happy with the solution But what was interesting is? I'm looking at the log files the SMTP log files oh my god There's like four spam attempts a second Oh yeah, it's unbelievable well You just see it like because they can go to server of course refuse refuse refuse. I'm just looking at him like wow Spammers really are the Internet It's like it's for a second. I'm not kidding is like boom boom boom boom boom boom just keep on this keep trying and it's all like from road at Number number numbers symbols at Rolex calm yeah Yeah, right Rolex that's nightmare. No. It's beyond nightmare

1:55:10 Yeah, that's why I always advise people not to... you know. Don't ever want to be a server administrator for websites and the rest of it. It's nightmarish! Well, I'm really loving it because of course I am the only user on this system so if actually do a search its really fast So it's a it's not bad. It's kind of replicating my my gmail experience I'm off the Gmails, so I'm gone. I'm off. I'm off. I'm off. I'm off I tell you so Adam Of course if you send it to anywhere else it'll still arrive But adam at curry comms the only place you want to send me email And it is as secure as possible. It's not ultimate in fact unfortunately

1:55:52 Even though I was amazed that Time Warner Cable allows SMTP in and out, but I thought that was pretty astounding. I learned very quickly that many mail servers reject email from the entire range. So if you're sending SMTP messages, so essentially your mail server is talking to another mail server and says oh Time Warner Cable? Yeah, I think not denied so i have to relay through a dyndns.org so when I send a reply to you obviously that's not entirely secure

1:56:29 Yeah, well sucks but it's better. It's better than not like you're sending secret messages Well no But I get a lot of stuff from people who send something to me and it's like okay You don't want that what you don't want is you don't want it sitting at Google And then the government says hey Google give me currys email okay here it is because that's what they'll do oh yeah If they have the rights up you know you know if they give the right paperwork. Yeah They just send facts Hey Google, give me Curry's email. Okay here it is! There you go So at least it makes a little bit harder for them Right yeah well we don't want our confidential informants No Compromised We don't want them compromised I mean we do our best and we have no effect on the environment Best that we can I remember when I was at InfoWorld as an editor some years back Somebody was feeding me really good stuff from AT&T

CHAPTER 28 / 32 Discussion

Obama Asia Trip, Hillary Clinton 2012 Speculation

Media coverage of President Obama's trip to India and Indonesia is characterized as a "Great American Apology Tour" by critics. The hosts discuss the "demure" energy of the President and speculate that Hillary Clinton is being positioned for a future presidential run by building her international profile as Secretary of State. They suggest Obama's current political struggles are part of a scripted transition.

barack obama· india· indonesia· hillary clinton· secretary of state

1:57:23 I'm actually quite good and you can put me on a lie detector, and I can never remember who anybody is. Well of course you know that already and this guy, I said well you know you could tell he was going through their system. You should probably try to do somebody come in through some other email system within a month they tracked him down within the company and fired him Oh yeah oh it's not that hard No it's not that hard I have a couple of uh... if we want to lighten the load here Yeah I think we should take a little off boy I got a couple of you know the medleys John Stewart is famous for I've got two of them in a row there actually quite funny and one of them is the John Stewart medley number one which is all the clips, and by the way this where you can find out memes because that are on talking points but this is a clip of people condemning Obama's trip to India Asia. India and Indonesia yes

1:58:18 Ready? Yes. I can't wait to hear about his trip, I bet he thinks he hit a home run Instead of hitting home runs sometimes we're gonna hit singles But they're really important singles At least he at least he's not using cricket references He seems sad Mr.. President if you're not gonna blow your own trumpet. What's everyone else gonna do to your trumpet? Oh my god, mr.. President hide your trumpets President Obama's Asia trip was a total disaster. His economic view somewhat rejected No resolution with China over their currency valuation He failed to reach a free trade agreement with South Korea No cooling of tensions between India and Pakistan Refused to condemn the global jihad A tough meeting with the German Chancellor He has lost his mojo This is a troubled time in America, why is he going on this long trip? This was an extraordinarily expensive trip Another chapter in The Great American Apology Tour What did he get besides really nice photo ops

1:59:18 Why did he go? And when he went, why did he f*** it up so badly?! Yeah. So... Remember I said that his whole attitude is demure He has no energy in his voice. He's very... You know, he's taken aback and this is all part of the script! He's supposed to lose. He's supposed to be a loser uh... he's uh... he's go by the way you secretly gay and all this stuff is bashing obama i don't think that they gave him forever yeah has been getting a little bit as a mean has been cropping up in with the weirdest places including new york times

1:59:55 Oh really? I missed that. Yeah, there's a clip i have it didn't get this week out go try to dig it up It says that Obama when he was in Indo- just the summary may only dig it up When he was a kid in Indonesia He had some mentor who is apparently some famous gay guy and his mentor was helping him with something and so when he went to indonesia you want to go back to his old neighborhood is on the new york times they wanna go back to his old neighborhood where there were people would remember him with this game and or right now it was always just a lot of innuendo and it just seems to me that there's a you know we've thought that these ladies bisexual not all by then by the way that was run on the on the i think it was a run on one of the gay news shows that they have on free speech tv that i caught

2:00:46 uh... that that information so there's this is this a really underlying it's kinda creepy to enter trying to do this guy but you know they don't i think he had i think he knew it and i think uh... he was really enjoying the moment of memory higher actors as our presidents in united states and some of them actually accredited and uh... like reagan like real actors we hire actors and he knew the deal he knew the deal wasn't got around all this stuff through your gonna be great and you know he'd be heat Love the moment. They love the limelight and you know now it's like hey remember we made that deal with you, dude Okay Now it's time to go now It's time to switch now You got a back off not even yeah gonna be demure

2:01:22 What oh you don't want us to tell everyone about that do you? Oh I mean the meeting that he had with Hillary is everyone remembers during the election when she decided it to stop running against him Was some sort of a you know was a secret meeting and there was really high. It was covered as a meeting She gets the Secretary of State job, so she stays in a higher profile She doesn't have to worry about staying in this Senate where they were your record catches up to you And which is the problem with being a senator running for president, unless you're just one term and you're out like Obama. If you stay in too long, you know, you get up to do something stupid and they use it against you, they beat you up with it. So the best thing to do is put her into this higher profile job of Secretary of State where she gets to be... She's got international experience now so they are really leading up to

CHAPTER 29 / 32 Discussion

Bill Clinton Republican Praise, FIFA World Cup Bid

The hosts highlight a media montage showing Republicans praising Bill Clinton's willingness to compromise, contrasting it with the intense vitriol he faced during the 1990s. Clinton is currently serving as the honorary chairman for the USA bid to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup. The hosts mock Clinton's "shilling" for FIFA, which they describe as one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

bill clinton· republicans· fifa· world cup· 2022

2:02:09 her getting the job. Now, this is one of the precepts of this show we're sticking with that now the second clip I have from Stewart is a montage about Bill Clinton, which is actually kind of funny. It's got nothing to do with the Obama trip or anything else it's just a really interesting juxtaposition of again the crap that we're fed by the news media Barack Obama is just terrible Republicans especially are coming down on him mercilessly I bet they miss the good old days when they had a president they respected

2:02:46 Under Clinton, you had a president who was willing to compromise. Bill Clinton who you depict in your book... Yes He was a flexible guy! He learned how to compromise with conservatives to get things done If he's willing to work with us as Bill Clinton did after the 1994 elections To pass things like welfare reform trade agreements and the like We'll certainly work with him That's right Republican darling Bill Clinton Now Some of you may be too young to remember the feel-good 1990s, when a universally respected President Clinton reigned over an eight year bipartisan love fest.

2:03:27 Let me give you a taste of what it felt like back then. President Clinton lied, he assaulted our legal system delivered an unworkable socialist health care scheme the massive approach to healthcare the extremism new spending and new taxes He wants to make radical changes It's an un-American position New Age Socialist Someone who has dodged the draft is a draft dodger I believe his abuse of power to base the presidency. The mysterious death of Vince Foster, Vince Foster suicide why? Why?! There was blonde hair not Mr. Foster's on his t-shirt whose hair was it? Bill Clinton is a bad boy a naughty boy misleading and untruthful fake and phony Bill Clinton is probably even a nasty bad naughty boy Senator Airport Rub and Tug is right

2:04:30 Bill Clinton was a bipartisan dream the Republican members of Congress tried to impeach when they weren't on the floor of the House of Representatives accusing him of having a hand in someone's murder. Now, the funny thing about that clip by the way is that guy that this senator who was you know putting his foot down there... Larry Stevens? I know it wasn't Steven, he was the guy that got killed in the airplane. Anyway- It's so hard to keep them apart! Yeah. I can't keep these guys separate... Anyway that guy is the one who says oh he's a nasty naughty boy and the way you say him thinking- Nasty. Isn't it obvious this guy was weirdo? Yeah. Nasty You know I go an email from Bill

2:05:20 Clinton yeah, yeah I'm a subscriber of course you know actually subscribe or they just send you no no I subscribe Of course are you kidding me? I want to know what this prick is doing so what did he say do you well it's the first of all dear John because of course I registered under an alias in 1994. I was the first president to watch a FIFA World Cup in 1994 I was the first president to watch a FIFA World Cup game played on American soil little more what oh You gotta sound a little more with a broken voice. Ah, I'll never forget that day! Pfft...I can't do it The beauty of the game The roar of the crowd And the power of soccer To unite people Of such diverse backgrounds and beliefs For the past six months i've been working to bring this incredible experience to millions more Americans as the honorary chairman of the USA Bid Committee The organization behind our nation's official bid to host the World Cup in 2022 Join the bid

2:06:18 Wow, so is he asking for money from Harlem to Harare? This is a good line. We should use that! From Harlem to Harare Soccer is played in every corner of the planet But perhaps no nation embodies the spirit of the game quite like the United States What bullshit is that?! No kidding... we are rich melting pot of cultures and ethnicities Every qualifying nation will feel as though they're playing a home game on our pitch Our diversité He actually uses it Our dedication our unique blend of individual achievement

2:06:58 We have just 17 days to make this dream a reality. Join the bid! Your message is powerful, we need to tell FIFA the game is in the US." FIFA is the largest corruptest organization it's like right up there... Oh yeah I think that we've made that clear. It's right up there with with the Olympic Committee and this elitist prick is shilling for them now Unbelievable. Is he asking for money? No, not... you have to go to join the bid. I don't know if they need money but he's getting paid honorary chairman mm-hmm right honorary chairman did you know about bill HR 645 the national emergency centers establishment act what's it do? I'm glad you asked

CHAPTER 30 / 32 Discussion

HR 645 FEMA Camps, Safe Sex PSA

The "National Emergency Centers Establishment Act" (HR 645) is discussed as a potential move toward creating military-run concentration camps in various FEMA regions. The segment also features a "safe sex" PSA featuring Bristol Palin and "The Situation" from Jersey Shore, which the hosts find bizarre and poorly executed, noting the awkward emphasis on abstinence.

hr 645· fema camps· bristol palin· the situation· abstinence

2:07:50 uh... here we go in general in accordance with the requirements of this act the secretary of homeland security shall establish not fewer than six national emergency centers on military installations it's a concentration camp act And it's cropping up again. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. What do they expect they're gonna pull people off the line over there on opt-out day and throw them into a FEMA camp? Throw them into...yeah I think so it's not FEMA its military It's different. Oh military! This is a little different from uh location of national emergency centers There shall be established no fewer than one national emergency center each of the following oh sorry it is all FEMA FEMA regions 1, 2 and 3. FEMA region 4. FEMA region 5 and 7. FEMA regions 6... Okay all the FEMA regions apparently. This has more fuel to the FEMA campfire these people you know are all over. Yeah we need to track this HR645 it's unbelievable throw us in a camp oh please John give me something happy to get out of here with wait a minute I have something kind of funny

2:08:55 Have a clip that will make you a happy clip good. This is the reaction I think that we were looking for for a lot of this stuff play response Let me grab response here we go What's that I Needed to cricket sound I Got some of our lame jokes, I got a funny one for ya and So this is from the real news category. This is a safe sex PSA, although there's all kinds of funny memes in there between Bristol Palin of Bristol Palin known as... Oh yeah I saw this! This is really the weirdest thing I've ever seen Of Bee Palin fame and the situation of The Jersey Shore and it's just like you watch as he go like what? Who's the agent for this thing

2:09:51 Well, excuse me miss have you ever had a situation with the official situation Excuse me such. Oh snap be palin You mean to tell me that girls actually fall for that line come on I mean if those words don't work like up the situation oh Right there. I hope you're as committed to safe sex as you are those abs. I know that you're all about that abstinence thing, but come on B Palin Are you serious? You're not going to hook up with... like before your married for real For real! Forrealforreal? Forrealforealforeal Alright well just in case you do get into a situation i want to make sure that you are situated because if you do get into a situation with your situation you may end up with a situation

2:10:36 And you may not like that situation. Trust me though, I'm not getting myself into another situation. I know how hard it is to be a teen parent You know what? I totally respect that and I totally respect abstinence! It actually has the word abstinent on it's clumsy. I love the situation, I love that Very funny but I am worried about you and you practicing safe sex. I actually practice a whole lot...I mean a whole lot Talk about the safe part of that Ah, we got the safe part down pat. One pile Magnum's You know what? I might be able to spare one. I mean, you know... give you one It's fine! I avoid situations Alright good good If your'e good at avoiding situations and your situated and i'm situated situation is under control Well im glad that we agree on 1 thing Pause before you play Pause before you play thats probably the most important thing You gotta think before you get into a situation PBYP or PBJC Right! Snap!

2:11:35 This is what our kids listen to. It was the most painful thing to watch and you played it, this is now... You bummed me out! That was the worst thing and who's she kidding? This woman And by the way when she says safe sex I swear to God I heard her the second time it sounds a lot like she saying same-same sex Yeah I heard that too Same Sex Now I heard that too End of show clip will be Dave Barry In a short four minute clip about the TSA Love Pats, which is kind of funny to listen to so that should put you in a good mood. Well actually if your going to play that you might as well back it up with one I was hoping we weren't gonna play any more TSA crap but...I have an editorial from WPIX

CHAPTER 31 / 32 Discussion

Lionel WPIX Editorial, TSA School Security

New York editorialist Lionel delivers a critique of TSA procedures, warning that these intrusive searches will eventually be applied to children in schools. He argues that the public is "assuming the position" by allowing non-sworn civilian agents to conduct searches that bypass traditional Fourth Amendment protections under the guise of fighting terrorism.

lionel· wpix· tsa· schools· fourth amendment

2:12:23 You know, it's one of the last stations in the country. Remember years ago they used to have this guy come out and editorial? Yeah, yeah New York, PIX sure, PIX sure Well they have a Joker editorialist called Lionel who has his own theme song Lionel! And Lionel actually does a fairly good anti-TSA editorial you can play right on the end of the other one Or should I do it before Dave Barry Maybe before is better. Is Dave Barry really funny? He is funny Well this is too, you can play it after This probably has a better punchline at the end Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning I'm Adam Curry And from the Buzzkill bunker here in Northern Silicon Valley where it's take out the garbage day. Actually, the garbage has been picked up and they left the cans in a middle of the street like they love to do I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda Remember dvorak dot org slash N A

2:13:17 Have you ever told your kids that their bodies are sacred, that no one but no one can put their hands on them and if anyone ever does they're to tell you immediately? Have you ever told your kids only you, their parent and maybe their doctor could never put their hands on them especially in private areas. It's one of those serious and frankly uncomfortable discussions you'll ever have with your kids because you have to contaminate and shatter their innocence by having to tell him about bad people who want to touch them! And now Kids are watching the news and hearing about adults objecting to TSA fondling. Mommy, are you going to let that man at the airport touch me down there? And what scares me is that a lot of folks believe law enforcement and authorities can do anything they want to stop terrorism or fight the war on drugs for whatever reason they give. That's frightening!

2:14:04 You watch when the next crazy kid brings a gun into his school, mark my words. Watch the schools take the TSA procedures and apply it to your kids you watch folks are going to make so much money with these scanners you'll see them in schools and you watch some school security is he will next be fondling your kids for their own good they're already doing it two kids now on airports remember 12 year old kids have been pulled out of the line they've had nude bodies there do bodies photographed I don't kid yourself, that's exactly what it is. In the UK child advocates argue that these nude scanners violate the Protection of Children Act of 1978. Our country who goes crazy if you use the R word or see Janet Jackson's areola for a nanosecond where they way sports mascots depict ethnic stereotypes we go nuts over that but having some minimum wage skycap with a badge stick his hand out your pants

2:14:57 Not a peep for some. Let me remind you, our legal system has been very carefully permitting police in very specific circumstances to search our bodies or conduct pat-down searches Our jurisprudence has carved exceptions for arrest and custodial detention And this is for trained sworn law enforcement agents with police and arrest powers not a glorified bouncer! Not a civilian given a badge for decoration The message that we are giving the people by rolling over is simple. Do whatever you want to do to us so long as you mention terrorism, and don't worry, we will not follow the news or investigate just unnecessary in how ineffective these methods are. We will assume it's all of the up-and-up and you know what happens when we assume the position. Comment as you see fit.

CHAPTER 32 / 32 Discussion

Dave Barry Blurred Groin, Show Outro

Humorist Dave Barry recounts his experience with a TSA scanner that flagged him for a "blurred groin," leading to an intrusive pat-down. The show concludes with a final warning about the "security-industrial complex" and Michael Chertoff's financial interest in scanner technology. The hosts encourage listeners to participate in "Opt-Out Day" and sign off with their traditional "Shut Up Slave" catchphrase.

dave barry· blurred groin· tsa· michael chertoff· opt-out

2:15:50 Well now to someone whose junk was recently touched, humorist Dave Barry. Last week he went through a TSA full-body scanner what the screeners saw they did not like and Dave Barry you have discovered that you are suffering from a rare disorder what exactly is that disorder? They told me I have a blurred groin A blurred groin Yeah yeah i was in that machine like a phone booth thing where they make you hold your arms up and then it sends a scan of your naked body to, they claim a TSA person in another room but it could be Bangladesh to hacker you don't know where. But word came back that you have a blurred groin? Yeah so they were letting everyone else go because everybody had a nice sharp groin I guess but when I went through they pulled me aside and put this kind of like little pen and after like 3 or 4 minutes standing there I asked one of them why am I here he said you have a blurred groin what! Because you hate to find this out

2:16:44 at the airport. I had just had a physical, literally two weeks earlier which was pretty thorough if you know what i'm saying so im standing there after another few minutes and then another man came over and said you have to come with me into this little room he gave my boarding pass And as we're going to the room, he said your groin was blurred. I know, I know. So right now everybody in Miami knows that I've got a blurred groin. Well what happened next? Well they take you into this little room and it's an unpleasant little room The man is putting on blue gloves He's telling me how he is going to touch me and makes a big point about when he is gonna be using the front of his hand and when he is gonna use the back of his hand. And I'm thinking, I don't really care! It's not like if I have a guy touching me that I am gonna look down at him and say, oh it's okay, it's the back of his hand. You know what I mean?

2:17:35 And then while I was in there, the other guy with the boarding pass came in and he says oh you're Dave Barry. I'm a big fan. And so had this kind of surreal conversation with one guy telling me what a big fan is how much he likes my...and the other guys groping me! We asked TSA for some response to what happened and they sent us some general information about the pat-downs. One they're not punitive. They say it just makes good security sense." Well, I would say whoever wrote that it's not punitive was not having his or her groin fondled at the time! But they do point out look you know we remember the would-be Christmas Day bomber last year with explosives in his underwear they say if there's an anomaly and I guess you were an anomaly if it's detected during screening...you're gonna get a pat down? You know I'm not going to argue that it's totally unnecessary. I'm not gonna say that

2:18:25 I do think, and this is not an original observation. You see a lot of elderly ladies being pulled aside for one issue or another And I suppose terrorists could use an elderly lady to attack a plane but i just don't think they ever have It just seems like it makes more sense to focus your efforts on things that are more likely to actually happen. Did you have a conversation with your wife after this, Dave? Like honey I have something I need to tell ya. Yeah! I got on the phone right away and called my wife because they say you should share that with your partner. And her reaction was... She thought it was pretty funny How do I put this My wife doesn't make complaints about my groin that I know of

2:19:05 Well, Dave Barry safe travels. Oh thank you I'm feeling much safer now knowing that they're not gonna let me on there without checking me. Humorous Dave Barry's blog is called Dave Barry's Blog sacrifice our liberties. I say that is wrong, we are not safer and we also know there are individuals who are making money off this! Michael Chertoff...I mean here's a guy who was the head of the TSA selling equipment and he equips equipments questionable We don't even know if it works And it may well be dangerous to our health

2:19:41 You know, the way I see this if this doesn't change. I see what has happened to the American people is we have accepted the notion that we should be treated like cattle Make us safe make us secure put us in a barbed wire feed us fattened up and then they'll eat us And where a bunch of cattle and we have to wake them say we've had it I think this whole idea of an opt-out day is just great. We ought to opt out and make the point, get somebody to watch it take a camera It's time for the American people stand up shrug off the shackles of our government at TSA at the airport Order! Shut Up Sleep