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00:00 Hello Taliban, this is Al Qaeda. We want to coordinate with you. Adam Curry John C Devorak Sunday October 17th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 244 This is no agenda It is now the fourth day of rain and crap at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California. Will it ever stop? In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where its not raining which is a good thing...I am John C. Dvorak And in the morning to you John. In the morning to you and all of the ships at sea! And our human resources who are all charged up and ready in the chatroom at noagendachat.net, the way their government loves them. And remember it ain't over until the fat guy gets tazed It's raining down there? Oh man its been so horrible Its literally been like this for four days

01:00 Yeah, I mean but not just a little bit. It's like nasty and it's cold It's like 65 degrees and you guys have amazing weather right? Well we had until today looks well probably be a bright clear up But did we woke up in this foggy right now yeah which is unusual at this time of year You know our weather has been outstanding the entire week It's uh, it must be the global warming. I don't know something's really... Yeah that what it is We have had enormous sun flare activity recently Have you been following that? Uh, I think that was predicted Yeah, but it but like the biggest in you know like nine months or something big flares And if it had happened only three degrees to closer to earth or whatever we'd have a geomagnetic storm and NASA I know It was interfering with my dish network satellite see. I thought I was gonna ask you about that because I think yeah If it's only three degrees then you know maybe there might be something going on so you have noticed it oh? Yeah hmm interesting

02:02 I think a lot of people, it's only short term little bursts but there was this situation. I think it was yesterday where literally got error message that I've never seen before from the Dish Network Like pay your bill Well I've seen that before No I thought you still had on a freebie for like 18 years or something But the... well because I'm testing and I'm... Yes you're reviewing it. So anyway, so I got this error message that said just said you lost we do there's no set whatever was up there is not there anymore. It was looking at it go oh my god they blow the satellite call Adam quick the satellite has gone

02:52 And then it came back. And then I was breaking up a lot, you know it's like a bad antenna kind of thing but its okay now. I remember in 1995 or 96 we had one of those huge sun flares and this is back in the day when people used pagers. Remember those? Pagers? Yeah vaguely! You know I never had one of those I stayed away from it myself, but it was a big thing particularly in New York because you know if you're dealing drugs You gotta have a pager. But yeah everyone basically had one and these were the days of the first Motorola or what they called this the micro tack or whatever remember those first flip phones

03:37 They weren't digital. Star tech, that's right they weren't digital but they worked on you know just analog and the good old days cellular communication with a police scanner you could listen to lots of fun stuff. You could also hear the other person at the other end exactly exactly And we had one of those big flares and everything went out. Pagers went out, and we did have some satellite television at the time that also went out... That was like three days this stuff was knocked offline! At least that's what we were told. At the time I wasn't fully awakened or investigating what people were just telling me but i think it was a pure solar flare pager outage or satellite outage

04:19 That makes sense. One of the things that during the analog era, you could listen into other people's phone conversations if you had any kind of scanner but RadioShack had an interesting product that they brought which was in all... In fact I still have it somewhere It is very handy! It is a all-channel scanner that scans everything on this spectrum and you can set for certain frequencies You said between like what was it? 400 MHz and 600 MHz? I can't remember exactly But literally Actually, you couldn't set it but did but if you looked around there was a thick There was a little thing he had if you took the thing apart and use and there's a little trace that if you soldered It turned on the cell phone scanning part. Yeah I Was quiet you could literally hear a guy call his wife Hey honey, yeah, I'm gonna be late for dinner and then three sex like hey baby. I'm on my way over yeah

05:12 No, I'm telling you the one... What I noticed listening casually was that most of the cell phone calls were for people who usually around noon time everybody was lost. Hey man where am i going? They're calling their secretary to get directions the other one after hours it was the guys who believe me this is the three big the big three and I think its probably still true The second one was guy's calling there mistresses Saying I have to go home because you know what she the ball the old ball and chain has this email they going on but the Conversations were always they would always be like now. Yeah, yeah And then and the mistress would already be talking a lot You know what? I mean is like guys are very non-communicative apparently if you were listening into I Of course I was that why else do it and the third big one where drug deals

06:00 Oh yeah, well I was making them. So there were drug deals going on everywhere now... I had great reception on my end! I was calling Now that said i should dig up a couple of tapes I made because we used to have people over and some of these tapes were pretty creepy but there's one guy who is obviously white You used to tape it? I listened occasionally. You taped this stuff?! Oh my god how sad There was..well you know It was a form of entertainment at the time But there was a, my favorite all time favorite one was the guy having phone sex. Oh cool. With some somebody and he says oh hang on a second I'm coming to the toll booth

06:44 I'll get right back to you. One second, let me just cover up for a second. Come on this stuff is gold! That's cool you have that on tape? Well i'm not even gonna ask if it's on tape... You know these tapes who knows where they are yeah probably somewhere but if i can find any of these tapes which i doubt by the way uh we'll run a couple of them The other one that i thought was interesting that the problem when they shifted cell towers sometimes you'd get this effect and this happened to be more often than once it goes like this, the guy goes yeah I know you know there's a big deal they bear the boards meeting tomorrow and they're gonna do it three for one split and uh... it's going to be the fucking thing is in a skyrocketing gotta get in get call your broker right now so yeah okay well i will what's assemble again hello hello because he was always here that guy cuz he was still broadcasting you could see always hear that person not connecting anything about

07:41 Yeah, good times man. I gave up on it after a few months of entertainment Good times Hey i want to thank everybody for emailing the term that you were looking for John as we wound up on Thursday's show You had a miniature pet peeve about the sucking in of cheekbones and smiling for pictures yeah duck face That's right! I don't get the duck face thing what this doesn't look like a duck Well, yeah it does a little. It looks like a duck's ass kind of. A DA? What we used to call a DA back in the day and so you can go to antiduckface.com if you want to see some amazing duck face pictures I really... this is a very interesting phenomenon You're so right! I mean i've noticed that I have seen my daughter do it in pictures but... Did you ever ask her why she's doing it

08:37 Why because it's unattractive. Can you agree with me that it is unattractive? Yeah, its very unattractive and even worse It's usually white girls and then they have to throw a gang sign with their hand If all the pictures are like you do the duck face and you throw a gang sign. It's like huh what What is that all about? It's something to do with culture which I'm very disappointed with I've been you know after that hip-hop awards and everything, and I just been kind of paying attention. I'm really disappointed We're headed in the wrong direction John it's pretty lame. It's not just lame. It's oh by the way I've got to I've got the beginnings of my my hip hop track here let me play this for ya Yeah

09:34 It's pretty good right? I'm sorry. I didn't hear it It's awesome, it's totally rocking we're getting there hell yeah Hell is the hell hell as them is the pejorative yeah um okay? It's fine by the way you would you would have loved to have been here over the weekend Mollywood came to visit

10:10 And she stayed overnight and we went out to dinner, the three of us. Miss Mickey, Molly and I. Ah boy! We got... Molly and I got into a big argument. Oh good! Dude you would have so loved it It was about the R word and the G word You know about uh... Oh, retarded and uh... G? What's the g word? Gay. You can't say gay anymore. Oh gay right you can say gay. Yeah we went on a rant about that. Oooh my goodness oh boy. So what does she say? Well we have to change society from the bottom So we from the bottom I said, I don't know. I'm waiting a whole lot of seconds We get this straight Yeah, I know from the bottom but then Mickey was ganging up on me too It was like oh you gotta get you two women. You toast love it lost and and by the way And we had dinner at Agos and I'd saved up for this one I goes or spa goes I go so I goes which is De Niro's restaurant Outstanding they had a special they had linguine with white truffle

11:11 And so this is all going on and just for like 20 minutes I just shut my mouth and just listened and ate this fantastic linguine with white truffle. It was phenomenal! Have you ever had that white truffle on linguine? Oh yeah, it's Italian. Wow! That was awesome So didn't let it ruin my dinner but wow...I really lost on the argument Apparently, you got beaten down by two women. And they're big! They're big women too Yeah, they were with opinions. Yeah it's scary I was like... You pig? Did they call ya a pig? No i didn't hear the pig word but everything else under the sun but I was really like this is inciting hate

11:52 You should have said this is retarded. Oh, believe me I was throwing it all out one after another and then of course I did the old Hitler thing in the forum And I said well why don't we just go kill people in Afghanistan? And then Molly literally said oh that's like bringing up Hitler in the forum I said well yeah, I said if we want to change society We can't change from the bottom you've got love Why don't we stop killing brown people how about that first start? It was like well That's not the argument okay alright So what was the argument about using the word retarded? Yeah, that Mollie really believes it's a horrible thing to do. It incites hate against mentally challenged children. It incites? Yes and it teaches young children who don't know any better that retarded is bad and therefore its hate

12:45 It's it's a it's a bad always hate. I don't get that. I'm just telling and look up This is why I was sitting there going like Oh John could you just walk through the door right now? Walk, I need you I need you I need my buzz cut with all the counter punch crap Yeah, I was so my days at Berkeley I can handle this kind of thing I was weak from any angle by the way I could take that I could have taken their sides and destroyed you I know I know I have So much to learn from you. I'm not ready to snatch the pebbles from your hand yet master All right, yeah rough rough go I can understand that So let's get there give a couple of good some executive producers. We had a really a Couple is the word here at four week? I want to tell people out there the work org slash any please donate a little more than you did this week we need to support this show and keep it alive I have a theory as to why our numbers just fell through the floor because wait a minute Let me guess it's it me again

13:41 It's usually my fault whenever the numbers drop. Well, I could say you shouldn't do this is a you did that it's like people hate you What what was it? This never said this ever Should I get the emails do you want me to you want me to tell you what I think it was mm-hmm George Clooney Wow yeah People love George Clooney right and we had the and we had the art and everything mocked George George Clooney very bad idea Yeah Hmm Yeah, no Clooney's on the fast track for the presidency now. I see it He's there right? He's totally there and the whole Donald Trump George Clooney We agree said he's part of this You know is either a paid informant at the CIA is part of something There's no way he's doing all this stuff. He's doing unless he's like he's plugged into some intelligence sure It wasn't just a crappy show

14:34 I don't think it was a crappy show. It was just Clooney, don't mess with Clooney! And then we put Clooney on the art Yeah yeah that was bad With a goofy look and a CIA logo behind him and three monkeys...I mean come on! Oh yeah you're right well we can't do that anymore then because its hurting the revenue stream Yeah, like big-time. I mean we do our part at least we took a shot and we did you know it's in and You know what in? In four years from now Thank You darling or what is not even that yeah well He'll probably be six years he'll run in the 2000 what 16 but depends on who wins this next yeah Then will have to say well We told you so hey you guys didn't care we told you are you anyway telling us so told you so

15:17 so we have to uh... ten ten tens special executive producer standout we have them decided singularly which is ernie ernst and zachary gissom in which is pronounced you have some other way against men these missed the basement right he told us how to pronounce it we are referred at exactly what sorry that's our biggest but then we have arc interior for this week uh... is janice kane who gave us $420.10 which is 42 times 10 plus... I have a note here, she says hi Adam and John this in regards to the 442 times 10 plus 0 dot 10 contribution for ten-ten-ten as a woman i'm uncomfortable asking for a DD a dd i guess she means a D douche yeah really that uncomfortable for women to ask for

16:17 I haven't seen too many. No, a couple of the younger women... I would guess that this woman is probably in her 30s because that's where the cutoff is and we have done it. It has been done." So she instead would like to have a bit of karma so we can handle that You've got karma The second request is for me that overflow that one. That's nice isn't it the second request is for measurements I'd like to get the circumference of your heads, and then she actually stipulates knowing us the ones on your shoulders This is the woman who doesn't want to be deduced It's for a project. I have in mind which might turn into a bit of money for no agenda

17:04 Oh, thanks for shedding light on issues that haven't seen the light of day in ages what I don't know How do you measure your head size? You get one of those up your ass and see if it fits You get a fabric tape and you wrap it around the Cross or forehead and around the back. Okay, so we will have to do that It's like measuring waists or bust lines love the way you say major. It's just so proper That's how you say it, I think. Okay so that was it so we hope that we have a better run out... Wait but that was IT? Yeah! We don't even have an associate executive producer this week No knighthoods nothing? Oh no we do have a knighthood coming up but that's a make good it was from last week It says a make-good night oh man Wow okay Dvorak dot org slash NA we need to pay bills people and everyone else out there You've got to go out propagate the formula at least do that for us Our formula is this

18:00 We hit people in the mouth. And Janice, of course as a executive producer of the No Agenda program episode 244 you have received an official credit that can go on your resume and is always unlike Hollywood we will vouch for ya. Anytime someone brings that into question says what is this? What does this executive producer credit...what is this show? What is this? You say excuse me I shall call my

18:42 Show creators right now the show runners as they're known in Hollywood, and they will verify it Exactly yes well The only thing I've really been focused on may have a lot of different stuff besides the fact that gold closed at three thirteen hundred and seventy two dollars And that was actually down five so it hit thirteen hundred and eighty dollars Yeah, it 14. Did I even get 15? It's gonna hit remember I predicted fifteen by the end of the year Before it craps out. Yeah, you keep saying that keep going Johnny boy You've been saying this since 815 anything I'm about to start crapping out after the election you watch I don't know man This said this foreclosure crisis which is the other thing? I really focus my intention on that's uh There's something going on here Which is not being mentioned or at least let's say it's a notice you had a couple clips on it too I think that things are being covered up The real the true nature of the problem is not being addressed

19:39 and that will be okay well let's hear what your true nature the problem is well this is uh... the beginning of the unraveling of derivatives and we people cavalier lee say oh you know it's there is a swaps in manila stuff was bonded up but they're glossing over what that really means and i happen to understand a little bit about derivatives and swaps and the reason why they can't find any of this credit for those who do who died are not indoctrinated by american news On the heels of the financial crisis now there's, of course they have to foreclose on all these homes that people aren't

20:16 aren't paying for anymore but no one seems to know where the ownership papers are. It's like, where is that deed? Who owns that place?! So the courts have been ramrodding foreclosure documents through and just you know they call it what robo signings I think is what the term is and in the process of that there's all kinds of distractions like people's homes are foreclosed on who own their home outright or have been paying their mortgages etc so it's a big clusterfuck essentially But the real problem is, the way derivatives work. Not a regulated entity and I have witnessed this...I'll just have to say it again. I built a derivative trading system with my company in 1995 for Bankers Trust who has long since gone This shit just happened on papers faxes and you know stuff than some guys draw And if you know how swap works? Do you know how swap works John

21:14 Yeah, kinda. But I mean...I can't design one if that's what you want to do? Well yeah actually you can it's very simple all you need is a party and a counter party but it's interesting to understand what happens here and then you see the problem so let's say I'm in London and I have to buy a machine in New York And your'e in New York and you have to buy some materials or you have to lease an office space in London So in order to hedge your risk of a very basic swap as it's known, in order to hedge your risk on currency changes which could of course could really change your bottom line.

21:53 You come together, you sign an agreement a private agreement which is faxed back and forth. And you say okay I'm gonna borrow 1 million pounds from you and you're gonna borrow 2 million dollars from me. We'll have it at this set rate and then we're... It's kind of that's a wash basically so were swapped were out even So that works. Now I've hedged my risk and you've hedge your risk, if the dollar and the pound changes significantly you're basically going to be at the same rate that you locked it in with this other private party The problem is then i can go take my two million dollar guarantee from you And I can start to swap that out with somebody else

22:32 Say well look I got two million dollars over here and that guarantees me you know three percent interest a year at A fixed rate so? I can do something with the spread there of 3% So i can mess around with three percent And then that goes on and on the next guy does the same thing and all of this is was never really documented in fact The trading system, that i built. You'll love this they wanted a web-based derivatives trading system so what happened was The guy would enter in a form, essentially like a CGI script. We had no idea what we were doing in the bank! So we built like a CGI script it would take the form data It would then hand that off to an Excel spreadsheet which would run it through their Black-Scholes model To see if the risk was appropriate And then they would drop a file onto a server and then A process would run every 15 minutes See if anything new was there and then it would stick into Lotus Notes

23:26 So you know that shit's gone forever. If it's in notes, because notes databases are like... No one knows how they work And that's the problem. So when you do this with mortgages, which is no difference whether you're doing it with a mortgage or whether you're doing it with currency... The same thing happened and its all just Lotus Notes databases It's on faxes Its guys who just had shit laying around. It was never really properly documented and thats why they can't figure out so I think this is the beginning of unraveling of true derivatives crisis Everyone's freaking out! Look at the banks, all their stocks are down

24:06 They want to regulate these things is the problem. Good luck! Well that's the thing, it's like if you say for example... Say for example, at least in this form. Because there's no real... There is not one model for these things No because it is just a private agreement It's because of bunch of deals like I say hey Adam can you loan me 50 bucks? Yeah and I say yeah sure Here is your 50 bucks give me piece of paper that says you are going to pay me back And that's ok here is the piece of paper and you take the piece of paper and say Hey Dvorak is gonna pay this eventually I don't know when I'll sell it to you for 40 bucks Give some guy your neighbor

24:45 Yeah, exactly. So he's holding the paper now for you and you've got the 40 bucks? Right And I say... And he starts calling you up and your like who are you douchebag?! I don't know you! And it's like how do you regulate this is just a bunch of bull crap going on in the background It has to resolve itself. I mean, this is the whole thing... We know that this is a 600 trillion dollar problem The president said so himself and this is now starting to unravel because it's not just the mortgages its everything And more..it's not just like only mortgages tied up in this I'm sure was like here's a mortgage and here's some shit I borrowed that'll throw into the mix You know? Its all in there Well here's what they should do They should ignore the whole thing Exactly

25:29 No, they should let it resolve itself. You know somebody owes somebody some money under some circumstance Good go go knock yourself out you're in an unregulated deal Maybe got to bring a guy with the baseball bat to collect I don't know So they've got the shills out everywhere trying to say exactly what you just said. Let me give you a quick example from Bloomberg Television. Okay, well meanwhile the politics of foreclosures are heating up my next guest says that delay will impact the nation's economic recovery Alex Sanchez is CEO of Florida Bankers Association up here in New York for a change. Alex nice to see you! Great to see you Betty how are you? Good good and I saw your head nod when i was saying look this going to delay essentially clearing out these foreclosures

26:11 and many like if someone has uh... been wrong here in this process is making a whole i love it when people say that let's make them home and let us make a moralism income all but kind of horse crap does that make him hold that means we'll just will make you home anywhere near what he in the state gray area We're gonna look if you got a problem. Hey Dvorak, have you got a problem steam course in the eighth grade? Yeah we're just gonna make you home man shut up will make your hole in the back end don't worry about it brother but let's not hold up to hundreds of thousands of homes that really need to be cleared and sold That I love we need to clear this shit and sell it Let's clean this crap out and sell that shit worship where we're getting hungry over here sorry

26:53 economic recovery can continue. Now I will tell you before a banker even files a foreclosure lawsuit that's a very painful decision something the banker has tried to work out for months and months. This is the funniest thing ever, you gotta listen to what he says. This guy is a stooge! He's a douche! He's a shill! He's a douche! It's a new word, douche bag. Hey douche But he is the president of the Bankers Association. He's a you know, it's a really tough decision like, you know We struggle in agony thinking about should we foreclose? All right Let me finish a little bit of this work out for months and months and months With the mortgage holder and when it's not successful name when everything has been exhausted then they follow the foreclosure

27:37 I mean judges approving cases in 30 seconds you know lawyers not showing up the buyers themselves not showing up for the sellers well the problem is what they call it as a rocket docket. I mean, there's thousands of these kids... I got a rocket docket here for you. And yet your rocket docket? Dooch! I got your rocket docket right here. Many of them are flippers many of them are not all assholes they're flippers, they're just flippers that no one gives a crap these guys are did no good there's no good these people who are holding the mortgages. It is very painful it's very painful we got to like you know like foreclose on them it takes months of agony agony they just flip us as many of them are flippers many of them are not the homesteaded property and having this moratoriums is going to slow up our economic process. We can't recover

28:22 We can't recover. It's just slowing everything down Reports have shown that we're never gonna get to the bottom and start going up if we can't get these homes resold in the marketplace You cannot so and when you buy a home what happens Betty? You buy refrigerators, you put new floors down you buy furniture So it's really gonna hurt our economic recovery. That's right is gonna hurt the economic recovery Yeah The dutch bag goes on forever but he's out there shilling and this Betty I saw you nodding. You want to listen how they ended up like they're gonna go bone each other in the restroom after the interview? It's disgusting, the way these journalists work working with folks in Washington

29:04 and folks like you to get the word out. I think it's very important that... Folks like you to get the word out, there is is! Hey hey hey, folks like you get the word out! Hey come on Bloomberg, get the word out! The policy makers listen to you Betty because this is a... Betty, Betty they listened to you Betty, Betty look into my eyes, look deep into my eyes the policy makers listen to you and it's the truth unfortunately. The policymakers sit there watching MSNBC and CNBC and Bloomberg and then Betty is actually helping them make policy decisions. Policymakers listened to you Betty because this is a very important part for our economy Well I mean the press is certainly covering this development okay Alex thank you so much great to see you stopping by Thank You

29:47 Great to see you, thanks for stopping by. I'm totally moist! That's so great. Hey Alex, great man, I'll see you at dinner okay? Thanks Betty. Thanks for helping make policy...Betty Boop So these pricks in the banks they take all this government money and of course now it has been almost admitted by Obama that just to protect the bonuses of the bankers because heaven forbid if they didn't get their bonus, they'd be living in Singapore. You get the bonuses there which is by the way I see it's good riddance but that's another story so here's this so they take all this money government billions of dollars thrown at the banks

30:37 And so they get the, they go through this foreclosure process. Now I have a clip from a local from KPIX locally here that's kind of a little investigative piece on foreclosure employees who did they hire? And what kind of salaries, not so much the money they're getting but they got titles. These are people who actually go over... Who weren't filling out the forms or weren't doing their jobs that were trying to rush these foreclosures into the market illegally I might add and this douche that you just talked too or just we just played that guy's a defending this practice display foreclosure employees in its entirety and tell me you're not sickened by the story the lender for close repossessed and resold thomas' home in three months his attorneys believe it's another case in the growing stack of foreclosures pushed through by so-called robo signers lawyers interviewed a hundred and fifty among them out of work beauticians walmart clerks and fast food workers given impressive titles but with little or no experience

31:35 hired to sign paperwork as fast as they could. The inexperienced young workers were called Burger King kids at JPMorgan Chase, the New York Times says frazzled workers of Citigroup and GMAC sometimes toss the papers into the trash. They're signing false affidavits They're signing affidavits that would say things like, every allegation in the complaint is true. And they never saw the complaint and some of them had no idea what a complaint was." In one deposition Wells Fargo employee Zee Ma said she was signed 300 to 500 documents a day which stated that she had examined all books records and documents in each foreclosure and had personal knowledge of the money owed

32:14 When questioned, Ma admitted the only thing she examined was her own name and title. Vice President of Loan Documentation. Ma is a college dropout who worked for home decor company and had two weeks of training at Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo told CBS News its foreclosure affidavits are accurate! And it will take corrective action with employees who do not follow procedure. In San Francisco Don Knapp CBS 5. Follow Procedure slave? Ah that's mint. Unbelievable. That's mint these are the same people took the census It's the same people. Not even, not even... Some bonehead just signed this just sign as many as you can we'll take it will take further action on their irregularities I mean Wells Fargo has got to be at the sleaze bag

33:00 what kind of an organism, who would do business with them? Ladies and gentlemen out there if you have an account with these people. Close it! Close it they're screwing... If they're gonna pull this kinda stuff in there going to make some bogus excuse they are obviously gonna end up screwing you over somewhere along the line well and what became painfully aware to me once again listening to all this and actually we had a very nice note come in from One of our human resources, you know the cash is gone money is gone. It's meaningless It's just shit in a database stuff written on paper It's we're in this weird society where our belief system is that there's still value on things and it's these little digits That are attached to it, but it's completely meaningless and the people who are Propagating. It really don't give a crap as long as they have lots of numbers As long as they've got the digits and that just killing everything and everybody Everything well anyway This guy that's human resource tried to get eleven thousand dollars in cash from a Citibank I'm sorry Bank of America

34:07 Another bank that I hate. They didn't have it no, no now we all do yeah They only have five thousand dollars in cash at each Bank If you want more than 5,000 then you uh You have to submit a written request and yes our banks anymore this is bullcrap These are just computer centers and then later he got a note They don't even need that big safe anymore. No, of course they... in fact the guy even said where's your safe? And then the manager came over and started to give him crap about it What do you need it for? Hey what do we have cash for hey hey what do you need cash for so you got a sign this so we can... I've got a note Dear Mr X hope all is well with you We need your assistance in addressing some questions that have come up on your account because he of course took us took the money out eventually

34:57 In particular, two cash deposits on September 22nd 2010 the amount of $15,000 and on October 8th 2010 $8,000. In order to assist our compliance department to better understand the activity please provide an explanation for the cash in source of funds, the purpose for these transactions and is the activity anticipated to continue in the future? What?! Is it bank You can't take your money to the bank, you can't get it out of the bank. And what's 8 grand? It has to do with money laundering drug business or some such thing. Dude financing terrorism yeah but he literally could not be depositing it in the bank unless the banks financing terrorism No no he put money IN THE BANK He took it out of Bank Of America and he put into the bank and they need that the compliance department needs know where that money came from Hey hey how'd ya get that money

35:54 That's crazy. It was just like the cops that have been pulling people over throughout the United States and then if they find more than a few thousand dollars on them, they confiscate it saying it's drug money or a TSA Yeah, TSA's been looking askance at everything that comes through even though they're not supposed to. So this is why I get really negative about what's happening. This isn't so not good! What are we going to do? We can't do anything but bitch. But bitch about it... That all you do is complain. What is this other foreclosure clip you have? Let's see, where was it? We did focus on foreclosure first. Oh well this is ancillary but similar This is the Sharon Engel-Harry Reid debate This is apparently a very close race in Nevada Yeah and Sharon Engel is kind of an idiot but she means well And Reid is just a tall douch

36:53 I mean the guy's a sleazeball, slow talking won't answer questions. He is just a stooge and so you know Engel can win because you know this guy was... So they actually had a pretty good debate with the guy from of all places PBS local PBS station national trade who asked pretty hard questions and he was asking Reed this question about focusing on foreclosure instead of focusing on health care and re wouldn't answer the question in the guy came back at him which i thought was interesting so i have the clip where the guy asked Reed to explain himself and then I speed up the tape because i can't stand listening to this guy so we race through yeah, we race through this bogus answer and then the guy reiterates hey you didn't answer the question. Very good very good! You hardly ever hear that is what they give you non-answer and the guy did it oh very good let's listen in light of the expensive mandates on small business and the intense voter backlash

37:51 Why didn't you and President Obama focus on jobs and the foreclosure crisis first, knowing how Nevada has suffered more than any other state? For a long time in this country insurance companies have dominated the healthcare delivery system. Funny thing is, he actually makes sense. form of the federal government. It creates jobs, thousands and thousands of jobs. Senator Reid I'm going to ask you that again why didn't you and President Obama focus on jobs in the foreclosure crisis first knowing how Nevada has suffered more than any other state? We did focus on foreclosure first. What a douche! How can i resist? Hey how do you spell douche

38:58 D-O-O TCH. It could also be D-E WTCH That'd be Deutsch, seems to me. So the guy goes on and says that insurance companies have dominated blah blah blah They dominate now they're dominating even more I mean the whole health care thing gives the insurance companies really a free reign and guaranteed customers Wow What an asshole. Yeah, hey now! Now I did get a clip from this thing that was...I don't know if you knew this or when she said it Sharon Engle said something kind of interesting

39:39 And as soon as she said it, I said that's interesting because i don't know that I knew this. Because it didn't come out in any of the mainstream stuff and I didn't read anywhere maybe you have and you knew about but I didn't can you play the Sharon Engel clip? What we have here is an illegal alien problem and the solution is simple. Secure the borders, enforce the laws I think every state should have a sheriff like Joe Arpaio And we should be supporting Arizona instead of suing Arizona Like Senator Reid and President Obama have When they sued Arizona they also allowed 11 foreign countries to join in that suit Senator Reid you've allowed eleven foreign countries

40:23 immigration law that's just nuts really I didn't know that. I didn't know that how do we let me get this straight our government, our federal government which brings up the Tenth Amendment issue again by the way our federal government has sued Arizona and then let 11 other countries join our government in suing one of our states yeah and which ones? How many governments border on Arizona Well there's only one. I know that's what i mean, what are those other 11 doing? Well probably Guatemala where some of these big gangs come from they're probably in on this uh...I don't know we have to look it up maybe someone in the chat room can give us their countries That's crazy! Yeah she's right it is just crazy You know this is a chain, I think this an old one and typically I throw them out get angry at chain mail

41:20 But this is one of those funny ones whether it's true or not. It at least gives you some sentiment about how stupid Politicians are have you seen this one? That has to do with I'm sure I have has to do with travel with a ticketing agent who gets all these stupid calls from congressional staffers and but also from from ranking politicians Oh there's one of those comedy chain mails. Yeah but I... Go ahead read a couple of them. Okay let's see uh this is Carol Shea Porter asked for an aisle seat so her hair wouldn't get messed up being near the window? That thing was good

42:03 Let's see, there are a couple of good ones here. Senior Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders called furious about a Florida vacation package or I didn't say that, a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando and he said he was expecting an ocean view room! The agent tried to explain that's not possible since Orlando is in the middle of the state. There's not actually on the ocean, he replied don't lie to me I look at the map Florida is a very thin state and aid... I don't believe that one! I don't either an aide for Janet Napolitano once called and asked if you could rent a car in Dallas? I pulled up the reservation noticed he had only a one-hour layover in Dallas when I asked him why wanted to rent a car said well I heard Dallas has big airport we need to a card drive between gates to save time

42:57 I could believe that one. Dallas is a big airport and you could drive between states but i don't believe it, I think its bogus And here's my favorite an aid to Senator John Kerry her name is Lindsay Ross called the given names here so I kind of like that call to inquire about a package to Hawaii after going over all the costs she said would be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii No, this is bull. This chain letter is a pack of lies! It made me smile in the morning Well that's a good thing It certainly did it made me smile Anti-UN protests going on Haiti right now which I'm sure you've seen that all over the news John Isn't it all over the news? I didn't know there was anything going on in Haiti except death Isn't it all over the news Protesters carrying banners saying down with the occupation Which seems like a pretty poor slogan to me

43:57 were forced back by United Nations soldiers. Security personnel traded blows with demonstrators and troops started firing in the air with helicopters hovering above." I'd say that's newsworthy! I would think it is newsworthy, A, of course the question remains why wasn't it covered? which well we know why but of course because it's supposed to be a friendly island, that is where we are going to have our hotel. I didn't know there were UN troops with the blue helmets over there! No really? You didn't know that?! What are you talking about!? I know they're setting up shop there and taking all the land... There were like 30 thousand UN guys before the earthquake even hit, just waiting

44:35 They were ready. Are you kidding me? They were already over there! During the earthquake, you never saw any blue helmets... Yes you did yes you did I'm sorry now that your incorrect. I forgot. Demonstrators also burned the flag of Brazil The nation that has contributed the largest contingent to the international peacekeeping force. I love it Peacekeeping Force firing their guns in the air Haitians feel that the presence of the UN security personnel doesn't offer much in terms of ordinary Haitians living in camps Yeah no shit Yeah, congratulations. It's supposed to be a friendly island so that's why you're not going to see anything. And then further investigation by the Associated Press News Agency has determined that none of the 1.5 billion dollars... no $1.15 billion this is the money they promised after the money they promised didn't come None of the $1.15 billion in rebuilding funding promised by the US has arrived yet!

45:31 But there has only been a year. Yeah, but there have been reports of a rise in drug trafficking and criminal gang activities And this of course spurred me on to go take a look at the Clinton Foundation once again clintonfoundation.org who literally you sent your money too and I'm still looking for the it's uh The form is IRS Form 999-990 I think it is hold on let me check I just want to make sure i'm saying it right. Yeah, 990 for a 501c corporation and he has still not filed his for 2009 and I looked up the IRS publications and this is by the way is a document that is open for public record states so right there on the form that this opened for public scrutiny because of course they're not paying taxes

46:28 It is required to file this on the first day of the fourth month preceding the year which taxes are due. You can get a three-month extension, which is not automatic you have to request it I'm sorry it's the 15th day or the 4th month and you can... let me see... the Form 9T has to be filed on the 15th day of the 5th month at the end of the tax year and you get 3 months extension for some reason you could also get a second three months extensions I didn't know you could do that But apparently you can on a form 990. That means October 15th, it has to be filed now So it would be now right? Yeah Okay We just filed our taxes on October 15th Right

47:14 You mean you, you mean... Which I now believe may be the reason a lot of people didn't give us any donations this day. Because i think our group is probably in that same kind of category put it off and then pay and that bite was way too much money we had to pay was outrageous Did you have it all saved up? Yeah well I don't have anything now I'm broke. Like seriously yeah no I hear ya my brother I mean, I'm saving everything. That's why the economy is so screwed because John and Adam aren't spending It's completely buggered. Well i'm sorry to hear that yeah, you're sorry Yeah, no, I paid my taxes on time this year first time in a long time uh Yeah that sucked And then again, I didn't want to go into it sucks fucking sucks and then it sucks The most when I know what what it's going to is going to these assholes

48:17 and they're buying shit to bankers who then hire idiots to do but screw people out of their homes. And it's to go kill brown people in foreign lands did you see this Hillary Clinton thing at the Commonwealth Club? Yep I haven't taken any clips from it yet, I was working on it yeah hard to listen to she so boring well what I'd like about her is she doesn't So unlike the president when it's about Pakistan, and actually I have an appropriate clip. It's about taxes this is kind of cool Unlike our president who just says well you know Right? Just douches something out there What did he say Clinton actually sits there will talk for 20 minutes and lie her fat ass off

49:10 Yeah, she's an unstopped chatterbox and she's a liar. And one of our producers sent us A little note with actually some time codes She keeps it whenever she goes into the lie. She touches her face you can watch or she's a real telegrapher on this one yeah, no it did you know that O'Reilly has a woman come on who does Body language stuff yes and she's actually very i mean i don't know how accurate any of this stuff is but she's really interesting hot which is kind of cool she's kinda cute yeah but anyways he comes on and she and chicago that she did they do the thing with clinton and uh... the classic was in yes issue used to see explain it then you watch the oh my god she's right clinton was it was who was saying

49:55 She was saying something in a positive way while shaking her head back and forth, another way of saying no I'm lying. And then she'd say something like no i'm not going to do that while nodding her head. Yes, it's crazy! She really needs some training or she needs her MK Ultra chip adjusted because she's given a lot away when she does that. Yeah, no listening to this woman dissect Clinton's body language is like oh my god Clinton! She just gives it everything...she gives it all away. Shes terrible so here is just keep your head straight you know and she shouldn't move wiggle or do anything except talk

50:34 So she should look straight ahead. She gets too comfortable, right? Because she's in a room of elites and all of her little ass sucker friends. And you know, and she's like Queen Bee and her nipples are all hard and stuff... You know it! You just know that she is totally getting off on this. Here she is talking about Pakistan and this is total economic hitman stuff. Total economic hitman stuff where she is essentially saying we've got to crack down on Pakistan Because they need to raise taxes to pay us for helping them I mean is that not the definition of how economic hitmen stuff works one of its one of the technique? Yes, it's one of the one of the models. She's touching her face the entire time It's it's just amazing in Pakistan as well as outside of Pakistan United States cannot

51:25 and should not be expected to help Pakistan with its development needs. Development needs, notice that they need some development like yeah our presence there so we can own the region Unless Pakistanis do more to help themselves and that includes reforming a tax system that does not tax the elite and the landed property class. Pakistan has one of the lowest tax per GDP percentages at 9% in the world. This is amazing to me, how many donations have we received from Pakistan?

52:09 None none If this is a tax haven and they speak English They're like a ton of money over 9% tax. We're not listening to our show that's the problem No problems, okay all they got us some drones campaign that was a kind of pain in the ass again nine percent tax rate which is also beautiful awesome and it should but you know i'm by some theories i mean there are low tax rates around the world different countries not stars being extremely high now especially for corporations and uh... So she's telling them what how to run their country. Yeah interesting And so we are working with them on reforming their tax system Because some of the richest people in Pakistan pay less than $100 in all taxes awesome My Mickey pack the bags, we're going to Pakistan

53:06 Wow. Bring your boots, bring your rubber boots. This is bullcrap too. Of course it's bullcrap but we are helping them reform their taxes... What are we doing? Who are we? Who does she represent? Who does she think she is? My goodness! When I was in London, no where was that Brussels yesterday You hear everyone laugh like oh, that's so funny. She's so busy she's so incredibly cool Hillary that she doesn't even know where she is what day is this it? It's Tuesday well must be Kalamazoo But she's a rock star and who was she hanging out with with that evil elitist baroness bitch I was With Kathy Ashton who's the newly appointed high-ranking

53:58 high representative of the European Union and we did it. I bet she's high, but they're both sitting there yeah I'm so baked how about you Kathy? I'm baked press conference about aid for Pakistan and i said and she certainly echoed our expectation that the elite of Pakistan do more to help their own country if they expect us to help them amazing talk A very interesting, yeah well they're retargeting them. These guys are toast in some way shape or form we're going to take their country, their resources we're gonna take the pipeline We're gonna take their money and make them tax it And there gonna be wondering what happened They're fighting us left and right but its all those terrorists fighting us Yeah that sounds good Well of course theres only one real reason for helping them John You know why were helping them don't you?

54:56 Well you tell me. Al Qaeda of course! I'm sorry, no no it's the Taliban. Rebranded, rebranded Just really testing the waters on this and it is very challenging because many of the leaders live not in Afghanistan but in Pakistan Oh there you go They're in Pakistan. I didn't know that, that's funny! Oh wait, that's all we've been talking about for the last two three four five years then why are we even in Afghanistan? And many of the sanctuaries for the Taliban in Pakistan is where the plan

55:36 Sanctuary do you just do you have the same idea as sanctuary where there's like palm trees and topless chicks walking around with you know, there is Obama brought this whole this whole meme into the play before he got elected and we should not be surprised by any of it What, the sanctuary? Yeah. I mean he says even before he was elected you ran out of what we may have to go bomb Pakistan because that's where all these guys are there sanctuaries but don't you just get the idea that it's like a luxury sanctuary and they're all just hanging out and like actually I think a sanctuary well you that's the way that's the way your mind works when i think is saying to her I think of like a as a kind of a calm Buddhist monastery surrounded by people chanting

56:20 and the organization, and the direction, uh... and the coordination with Al Qaeda continues. Sorry we have to always gotta bring him back in! The coordination with al-Qaeda Hey uh, hey al-qaeda this is Taliban speaking now We wanna coordinate some coordinates with you You know Taliban? This is uh, hello this is al qaeda we want to coordinate some coordination with you So we have also as part of the review that the president ordered back in January 09, we have engaged much more intensely with the Pakistani leadership both

57:04 civilian government and the military leadership, uh-huh. And have made it very clear to them that we want a different relationship but we expect... I really want a more open relationship It's not just not working for me anymore you know? I think we need to see other countries How are you feeling about it, John? The Haqqani Network. Who were those guys? This is new to me!

57:43 Who are the Haqanis? Haqani Network, broadcasting live. This is the Haqani... Hello this is the Haqani network we want to coordinate with Taliban and with al Qaeda. Can you listen to me Haqani? Can I come in coordinate with you on the sanctuary? It's like a movie! it's like a total... And I cut the applause off of that clip but everyone's like oh yes oh yes oh yes oh yes Hillary ah Clinton Clooney for-for two thousand... four twelve. Clinton Clooney, what a ticket! What a ticket!

58:24 Hakani how do you spell a Connie? I don't know. I never heard it before this speech or h a qq ua ni Hold on a second maybe H a QQ makes sense a and i hakane oh here It is hakani Network there's also Hakana soul It's a new type, it's the new music sweeping the nation yeah, Hakane network Wikipedia has a whole article on it Wow Oh here we go The Haqqani Network is an independent insurgent group in Afghanistan. Oh, independent? That's not coordinating anything! No no no wait a minute... They're closely allied with the Taliban. They're allied. Ahaaahhh.... Alright. The network is thought to present I guess they meant represent present one of the biggest threats to NATO and United States forces in Afghanistan

59:13 Following WikiLeaks July 2010 publication. Oh, okay? There we go there we go okay So this is a new name what does the trade I'm sure it means something like boots bag if you just translate Harkani can Google Translate Pakistani You think you put it in a somebody in the chat room probably speaks Pakistani Yeah, yeah. Yeah and we don't have people who donate how do you figure? We got someone in the chat room who speaks Pakistan I think maybe the Pakistanis are cheaper than the Indians knows that huh let me just see Pakistani What did they speak there? They'll speak Pakistani. It's not what they speak English What are they speaking Pakistan is its language? How but it's not the Google Translate has

1:00:02 It's not Hindu. Persian, Polish Portuguese yeah they speak Polish Let me see what happens if I translate Haqqani from polish into English let's see hey it's haqqani without the u there you go They speak mostly Urdu Yeah U R D U Urdu No Google doesn't translate that Why not? It's URDU. Oh, there it is! Yeah you're right I'm sorry you got it...it means alpha oh interesting Alpha great they're the alpha males so that the top dogs the first and number one the leaders of the pack. Rule number one So its just a code name. You know what we need is a Hakati is that the name? yeah Hakani

1:00:55 Akani, we need one of those big giant foam fingers. We're number one! That says number one on it and put the logo on it. We're alpha baby, we should make those No Agenda Hakane Number One Foam Fingers Perfect It's a new premium Alright speaking of premiums since it'll be a very short list Let's thank some people. Yeah, we also have a night of Black Night and one birthday. Who is the black knight? We got nothing this week ladies and gentlemen Ray Manguel Jersey City New Jersey sent us double nickels on the dime no comment Laurie Carpe still on her knighthood layaway and that is common Chris Lewinsky Sherwood Park Alberta Canada $50 that's it

1:01:49 I also only see one birthday John unless I'm mistaken. I've got Kelly Yeah, maybe another but I don't see I only see when Kelly Spears wants to wish her amazing Husband Aaron Spears a very happy 33rd birthday today And who's who was our black knight? Our Black Knight is Dennis Cruz, who has been contributing and documented his... Dennis Cruz. That's right! Dennis Cruz. Right. We had to do the math but we'd like Dennis Cruz to step forward please. Dennis come on over here for a second First of all our apologies as

1:02:35 Your donations were so supportive over a long period of time we had to really search through the archives to figure it all out, but thank God you did your own accounting. So let's just draw swords here for second. John, your sword? There ya go! Dennis Cruz, we're here by feast sir! Dennis Cruz, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable For You Sir Bountiful Hookers and Blow So Cruz will be the last guy installed into the 10-10-10 knighthood Order of the ten ten tens, the triple tens. Right and that's it Okay well that means dry bread and water this week crap Yeah I think the tax thing is... That and Clooney caused this downturn in donations we have to pick it up

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1:04:18 uh... by the way we need more listeners which would help yes i will you what you can it do you know we would make twice as much money away i figured or more maybe three times as much if we did if we had advertising but we cannot sustain advertising on this show if a i mean adam curry cannot talk about The Secretary of State having hard nipples, I mean you listened earlier. And no advertiser will put up with that because oh you can't say that it's rude! I'm amazed YOU put up with it John It's amazing I put up with it but I find like its an eye roller sometimes and sometimes it's amusing and sometime the image is just something you don't want to think about so I blank out. I even got an eyeroll for Mickey on that one she went like what? You know what we're missing? We need telephones ringing That's the problem John

1:05:04 that's the only ever telephones ringer asking for money at the door to our slash in a we've got a call but i'll standing by and and by the way in october we are having a neck double extra shows because of the weird month that it is which has been nothing but bad luck this month and uh... as much i think is that some of the case was routed this month hopefully things will improve but but they were providing a guess this month maybe twenty hours of of rock solid uh... it you know programming for people who are mostly commuters and i we will admit that most of our listeners are commuters stuck in their car and uh... you know you're getting something for his good conversation starters edited cocktail partying and you could probably develop a lot of love-hate relationships using some of the truth yeah you you know at least he will be entertained

1:05:55 No, my you you may you may break up. You may get fired But yeah your co-workers may shun you forever no but it's serious in all seriousness most people that listen to this show Are very appreciative of it because they actually live in more harmony Knowing at least when you know that you're being lied to and bullshitted at then at least you can sit there go Okay, I know. At least I'm okay It's like a shield you know it's like a shield or is like the Harry Potter bullshit filter Harry Potter shield something yeah What does that thing called the Cape? The cape of something

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1:07:08 Oh really we get to be getting money out of that PayPal takes the whole 10 and the only reason they're doing it is either Beyond the mailing list or distorted or as a joke or to complicate our bookkeeping Or whatever that helps you know find something except find somebody else to pester the cape of gayness Look at the chat room help us No, that's not what it is That's disgusting. That is totally wrong. Douchebag! That is so wrong. Give him a douche bag, that guy. So wrong. Dvorak dot org slash NA or channel dvorak dot com slash NA. This was a late breaking story that came in about implants that may help heroin addiction. Totally loving this

1:07:56 You know, now that we've indoctrinated everyone with our cheap heroin coming from Afghanistan which of course is one of the true reasons were there. Is to import that shit. Did you see this story John? Nope! People addicted to heroin or prescription opiates might have a hands-free device This is great This is from Wired. These guys write well though, hands-free for getting through the rigors of drug withdrawal I like us the riggers John you know riggers when I when I was kicking off heroin it was a real rigor or rigmarole It was just rigorous that's a regular role. I just had riggers of dread like this yes Okay The medication buper I'm suck at this Buprenorphine

1:08:45 Buprenorphine? I don't know, just give me the spelling. B-U-P-R-E-N-O-R-P-H-I-N-E. Buprenorphin. B-U-P-R-E-N what? N-O-R-P-H-I-N-E. Buprenorphine So anyway if you have this stuff implanted under the skin and released over a 24 week period it can ease drug cravings and it actually helps some patients stay clean according to reports in the Journal of American Medical Association This is the real deal here. Buprenorphine, John before you look it up is a semi-synthetic opioid compound prescribed for pain relief and for addiction withdrawal Is this thing that the shot thing that these guys were talking earlier? I have no idea It works something like methadone which of course they still handed out in Gitmo Nation lowlands to heroin abusers

1:09:42 So apparently now you can have this just implanted in your body and And you'll feel good, and yeah You have like a double high when you can't get your fix then you're on this shit. How do you make this stuff? That's the question is it made from the real deal I mean it was a byproduct of Opium is if you would keep to opium its hobby fields in business Yeah, I think it does It's semi synthetic so that means part of it as the real deal right oh Don't know I'm talking it up here, and you should be googling that stuff man. Well. This is going now But I'm Googling something uh you can't spell it no. I'm looking at something else Looking at porn Stop that stop googling porn here beer view printer here does Wikipedia the Ministry of truth speaks semi thin synthetic opioid use to treat Jesus wired copied the fucking Wikipedia entry

1:10:37 Oh, oh, oh! Here it is. It is a Bentley derivative opioid John! It's the Rolls Royce of drugs. It's a Bentley derivative. What does that mean? A Ben-it says here...a Bentley derivative opioid of the phenatherine class with extremely high binding affinity and blah blah blah blah blah whatever hmm well you know I've been minding- Oh! WreckIt distributes this those are the guys who do soap powder Who? WreckIt WreckIt WreckIt Yeah Wreck it? Yes, wreck it yeah. Like wreck it hey get in a wreck it let's wreck it. No R-E-C-K-I-T-T they do like the dishwashing powder and stuff their huge chemical company They sell ads on ebio all the time So I think for our book club and there is a reason what I was looking at because for some reason couldn't remember William Burroughs name There is a novel by William Burroughs called Junkie

1:11:40 uh... and in he talks about getting off of uh... heroin addiction using something called apple morphine which again would be a what bandy apparently with apple morphing does you switch over to it and then they tell me your confronted with her when you start puking your guts up to such an extreme that u that use these can't do for you have second thoughts yes i think the odds let me see and so And he was always in his novel, he was baffled by the fact that the powers-that-be wouldn't generally adopt this technology, this technique for getting people off of heroin instead making them addicted to something else. Duh! So you've just spoiled the book? I'm just saying he's just baffled supposedly by this. Why do we even have to read the book now? Now that we know... Spoiler!

1:12:34 Hey, John how much of a slave are you let me let me give you this one. I'm sure people emailed this to you and just Guffawing TSA rolls out body scanners at SeaTac Airport your favorite don't you fly to see tack from time to time? I fly to sea tech quite a bit Yeah security screeners will start asking people flying out of SeaTac airport to submit the full-body scans in about a week's time 14 backscatter x-ray machines will be installed at the airport. Planning to have 450 machines operating at 33 airports, including SeaTac by the end of the year! Another 500 next year!" Yeah... Johnny boy. Well you know what? It's kinda cool because we know your 12 insurers are gonna believe—they're gonna be like, Dude here's that dude again! Come on bring him through man! Here he comes! You can't believe this guy! You should just be doing it just to piss him off

1:13:30 So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna decline, uh...are you gonna opt out? Yeah. I'll just let him, y'know, grope me Opt-out! Opt-out! Standby we have an opt-outer Why're ya opting out boy? Ah, you got a problem with that?! I'm telling you when you go through, i want to tell everyone out there do this. When you go through the blinds and get up to everything it's why are you opting out? Because those things have radiation and they cause cataracts! And when you guys working around them we're going to be blind in a couple of years. Just say that to every TSA guy not against the law no it's probably true

1:14:06 Close enough. Tell him Adam and John sent ya! Say hey, who told you that? John C. Dvorak who comes through here at least once a month You know the guy with the 12-incher Oh that guy Yeah Is that his name? Now we know what the c stands for I forgot to say happy White Cane Safety Day John And while I'm at it Happy National Character Counts Week Character counts? Yes, this is uh... Starting this week America's strength even in its most challenging of times is founded in the spirit and character of our people

1:14:43 During National Character Counts Week, we reflect upon the values of equality fairness and compassion that lie at the heart of our country. I wonder if there's a national self-esteem week? It can probably come up but this is uh...I went on whitehouse dot gov as i do every single Sunday morning to look at our president's YouTube address which is all about Democrats good Republicans bad But then you look at the proclamations and it is National Character Counts Week. And I like White Cane Safety Day, but the white cane in addition to being a practical mobility tool... Who writes this shit? The president puts his signature- doesn't he have sit there and go what am i signing man

1:15:26 The white cane, in addition to being a practical mobility tool serves as a symbol of dignity freedom and independence for individuals who are blind or visually impaired. On White Cane Safety Day our nation celebrates the immeasurable contributions the Americans who use canes have made as valued members... I can't even say this! So we can't, here's what coming. You can say blind people you have to say Americans who use canes A lot of people use canes now the thing is why don't they emphasize what the real purpose of these kinds of days are with the white canes if you see somebody with a white cane hit the brakes for God sakes! If they're in this street or something or if you see somebody confused at a corner I do this all the time We have it because we have a blind guest here. You know? I did that once in New York and I got yelled at

1:16:19 There was a person yes, I was with Chris. Okay. No listen now is with Chris Jacob and and the guy's trying to cross the street But he trapped him still was like trash cans and shit And in the light post and he's like trapped. He's like it's you know it like Like one of those Robot vacuum cleaners he's like bouncing all this stuff. I'm like hey excuse me sir can I help you out? He got pissed at Oh shit, man. I'm sorry. He was having a bad day! I know but it's like wow fuck i'm sorry just what the hell? A number of people said yo hold on a second you're going the wrong way or something just because you know they're in a situation where they're gonna be hearing beep beep but doesn't tell you which way to go beep beep beep beep you know cuz there are these lot of lights around here in the bay area are triggered with this little sound. If anyone is actually serious about helping Americans with canes

1:17:11 then fix your freaking website and make it accessible. Alright, that is the number one complaint Americans with canes because we can't say blind people anymore. You have to, you can either say...you might be able to save visually impaired but you have to say Americans with canes. Yeah and you can't make a website using Ajax or Flash that anybody is visually impaired could use. It's impossible! If you really want to help if you really really want to help then go and fix your website now I'm the biggest offenders of that i'm sure i'm sure our sites are not at all what is it accessible now I think our sites are very accessible don't some of the graphics I mean I don't know when you get tables and stuff like that it really messed up your screen readers yeah what no that's true if your sites are indeed great-looking so but now this is true though that's really true anyway i'm just seeing this coming i'm seeing this Americans with canes things like you can say blind anymore

1:18:13 because it's hateful. You know we probably have quite a few blind listeners because they like to listen to podcasts yes in fact I know of several and i'm amazed sometimes, I have people who are blind who use the Big App Show which is pretty cool well then maybe they must just like your voice yeah well they understand what i'm talking about but I don't know how these phones have screen readers and how they get through it but anyway if we can do anything to help Americans with Canes let us know Yeah, we besides the bogus whatever the air that well whatever that was the West Wing week Which is the reality show? The president has this it's oh my god. This guy does nothing Just listen to it

1:19:03 Welcome to the West Wing Week, your guide to everything that's happening at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. This week the President focused on infrastructure education in the economy including several meetings with students of all ages. That's October 8th through 14th or I-SPI. What is that? What, I spy. What do you what is this? This is the reality show! Why are we wasting the taxpayers money with this bull crap Every single week there's a reality show called West Wing Week With this great voiceover this guy they probably did auditions for this guy and he talks about The President's Incredibly Busy Week And I want to listen because it's a great show John It's a Great Show

1:19:47 In fact, someone's probably making 50 grand an episode for this piece of crap. On Monday October 11th President Obama held a meeting on the economic impact of infrastructure investment on our states and local communities in the state dining room After the meeting the president made a statement in the Rose Garden where he emphasized Now I wish you could see this video This guy sounds like the Leave it to Beaver character! I wish you could see this video And actually you have to watch it Everyone has to watch this week's West Wing Week because they have this economic thing in the Rose Garden. And so there and this is behind-the-scenes footage, so it is kind of cool to watch I mean It's all masked by this horrible voiceover and the crappy editing and everything but Obama is so rude! So he manhandles everyone He comes up behind little Timmy Geithner... ...and he pushes him forward! Legit grabs him by both shoulders from behind like, Hey Sean come on little Timmy! This is a Secretary of Finance Of The Treasury whatever the hell he is

1:20:47 And he grabs him like he's a little kid and the president says, whatever you do don't trip. Fixing our aging roads rails and runways won't just make the entire economy better for long term it will create good middle class jobs. Don't trip! Don't trip Timmy! Whatever you do don't trip Timmy By investing in these projects we've already created hundreds of thousands of jobs, but blah blah. Yeah We probably probably probably John I think we've probably done that Wow yeah would you know? We just are so stupid which I was stupid we buy all this crap But you really have to see that video it's it really shows you what's going on there This is like one big power trip that's happening

1:21:35 Yeah, no I'm gonna watch it now religiously. So uh... The acting is not much worse than on CSI or NCIS or any of that stuff you know? Couldn't be! so i was watching the C-SPAN over the last week and I didn't get a lot got two interesting stories out of the whole thing well excuse me when you do something like that we have to remind people something very important So now I'm convinced that they're grooming, I think it's just a backup plan. They're grooming Condi Rice for a presidential run Really? Wow! Wait a minute this is new information Yeah this is interesting and the reason I suggest that

1:22:33 she's being groomed. She, uh... C-SPAN had, she gave a talk in front of the press club about her new book which obviously she is going to have this book and I guarantee it will be another book within the next year well that what you do yeah? You write a book and then become president she has to have at least two books to counter Obama's two books. And then she has that one book about her father and this book is about family, which includes her father who was apparently a preacher...a Republican preacher black republican preachers had to be hilarious right who like you like the hang out with guys like Stokely Carmichael in the rest of his actually this must be a fascinating story and you know she's I'll read it by the way what's the name of the book i'm gonna get right now all readers are red Sarah Palin's book I'll read Condi Rice's book

1:23:21 We'll go look it up while I'm talking. Okay, it's good. It's not got it's not the world's greatest title It's dreams from my mother is that what it is? Could be there's something like that. That's but it's about her mostly about her dad and uh... so they're trying to change her style she's actually quite funny she is very pleasant to get a really good speed that you got serious interview she gets for a diet browsing or yeah gap juice and out of the two And she drops a couple of bombs. And I always say, why would you? When I'm talking to some local show, yeah now I'm doing a podcast with my really good friend and confidante Adam Curry instead of I'm doing a podcast with Adam Curry. Why would add all this embellishment especially if I have a bunch of different people that I'm talking about

1:24:20 I just may ask you something. Do you when someone says that do you never say with my good friend Adam Curry? Never Why would I? Sorry I don't you know, I'm doing this show with you. I don't have to sleep I don't know what is differences and make the anybody whether we're friends or not in the sense of things? I mean into in the broader sense spectrum It doesn't make any sense at all I dude tell me you don't follow it up by saying You know the guy who used to be on MTV or something. I don't like that. Thank you. That's rude Thank you very much. That's very nice. I also don't say yeah He's a lot older than I am I never say that

1:25:06 He's an asshole. He's a douche, he's a doots! So play the Condi Rice who gives her two bits about gays in the military what this has to do with their biography I don't know In light of the recent debate in the Senate and court rulings what are your thoughts on Don't Ask Don't Tell? Do you favor repeal? Oh first of all I think it will be repealed um...I leave this in the hands of my good friend Bob Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff It's absolutely the case that military effectiveness and military efficiency has to be the first concern of the Secretary of Defense and of the military leadership.

1:25:48 I believe that if given time to work through this particular issue, they will be able to achieve the repeal without damage to military effectiveness and military efficiency. But again, this is something that I have very strong faith in the people because I know them who are charged with trying to get this done and let's give them time to get it done She says, uh... That's funny that- They got to correct that. You're telling me Robert Gates? Look at Robert Gates! That guy the CIA guy? You mean Bob Gates. Bob Gates, good friend! Good my Bob Gates It's like when you instead of saying Robert De Niro The whole world knows him as Robert de Niro But if your George Clooney you get to say Bob Or Bobby Oh no that's if your Leonardo DiCaprio then you get to say Bobby So Condi Rice, you know Bob Gates

1:26:47 No one calls the guy Bob Gates. It's like calling the President Barry, does she say that? Yeah my good friend the President Barry. Hey Barry! So she's trying to get it together. So they ask her point blank about running for office and she gives a bogus answer, Hillary Clinton had the same answer when she was running for senator about how she is never going to run for president And Rice goes on that she doesn't feel like she is ever gonna run for anything but she still gonna do some work for the country Play the rice running for office, we'll get it. You state in your book that you don't have the fire in the belly to seek elective office is there any circumstance under which that could change? Not that I can see

1:27:40 I really, you know pretty soon if you're asked a thousand times will you run for this? Will you run for that and you keep saying the time isn't right. Pretty soon you realize maybe the time just is never going to be right and so i'll find my ways to do public service. I think you can tell I'm very committed to K-12 education reform that for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now because... What? Hold on a second K-12 education reform is the biggest contribution to our national security? Did I misunderstand what she said? That's exactly what she said. So wait a minute, so k...so uh... K through 12 education reform is the single most...let me hear it again, let's hear it again. Already right now because if we don't do that we're not...hold on a second...no back it yeah but back that up hold on

1:28:28 probably our greatest... a little bit further, sorry about that. Here we go. ...for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now because... Let me I gotta pull it back... K-12 education reform is our greatest Let's get this quote right. Hold on. Right, and so I'll find my ways to do public service. I think you can tell that i'm very committed to K-12 education reform That for me is probably our greatest national security priority right now because... Wait a second let me just google that We have to reeducate the populace Education reform

1:29:07 Do you think it'll actually say this is our biggest... It might say that right there on the Ministry of Truth website. National security priority, we have to make sure everyone's on the same page This is crazy! Why does she say that? Because this is all part of some scheme where we have no idea what the basis is All were doing was pulling things out of thin air that don't make sense Or they're being dropped as bombs. By the way, in this little clip she doesn't say uh-uh-uh Yeah no because this is the script yeah This is rehearsed If we don't do that we're not going to be a strong and confident country And will turn in and will protect so there are lots of ways There's the answer oh well you should have listened She gives us the answer Because We're gonna turn into a bunch of wimps

1:29:57 No, no we're gonna... isolationists. Is that what she said? We're going to be a strong and confident country and will turn in and protect so there are lots of ways to do public security. Turn in and protect those are the two key words. In other words were going to become isolationist. Were not gonna keep moving toward the great one world government which brings me to the old John Bolton clip which I just coincidentally have on here let's play it as a reminder Herman Van Rompuy, the former Prime Minister of Belgium said in his inaugural address which I'm sure you've all read right? In his inaugural address in November last year he described 2009

1:30:39 And I'm quoting, as the first year of global governance with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of a financial crisis. The climate conference in Copenhagen is another step towards the global management of our planet." So, this is the attitude, the approach of many people who favor moving toward global governance. And so I think we're entitled to ask one year into the Obama administration what is the President's view of American sovereignty? How does he view these issues. And I think we can see already that the President has, President Obama has a very different view of American sovereignty than the long line of Presidents certainly since Franklin Roosevelt

1:31:28 In some respects, he harks back to Woodrow Wilson in his devotion to multilateralism as a process and an outcome. But I think it goes beyond that as well. President Obama for example said in September of last year at the General Assembly, It is my deeply held belief that in the year 2009 more than any point in human history The interests of nations and peoples are shared. In an era where our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero-sum game." Yeah

1:32:05 you know we have to do one of the things we do on this show which is discuss this uh... move toward uh... losing u.s. sovereignty and global governance we have to remind listeners every so often about this in this is a kind I think candy rice is obviously on board with his whole you know yeah letting somebody else tell us what to do and then there's a fractal aspect to this which is kinda interesting I think it's reflects this 10th amendment concern that lot of people Brand cool. and you know by the way mandelbrot just i don't know it's gonna bring that up and uh... you know i was thinking this a fractal that means everybody's going to die but in this is the fact that they have a good thing he needed me to ask the question is that yes would've been better with so much better so anyway so there was so that the show the idea is that you know why did that their government comes from the top when we don't really run through your dignity as his first year federal government again which we talk about the book nullification andy and the thing that's brought this

1:33:05 and brought these clips to mind, and what brought the whole topic to mind with me was this last week Eric Holder coming out... Yeah! And saying we're gonna come in there kick California's ass!!! saying that if California, Pat and every... we have 10% of our listeners in California apparently. And I want to tell everybody whether you think that Proposition 19 should or should not be voted for you should vote yes on this thing just to see what happens because the federal government has told California point-blank that we don't care what you do We're going to enforce the federal law, which of course is essentially unconstitutional. And I just ask the question because well so what? Federal law trumps state law no it doesn't!

1:33:48 And people keep asking, I keep getting emails with the people that are having this whole thing mistaken. They're buying into this argument that The New York Times put out there that the federal law is already there you can't change it with a state law which is not true and ask yourself the following why was the Prohibition Act, the Volstead Act passed? Why was their amendment passed in the first place and why are amendments passed at all when if it's just a federal law can be written Just ask yourself, if somebody argues about this. Say well then why do we have constitutional amendments? When apparently any old federal law will do the trick! What's the point of a constitutional amendment? Just make a federal law. A federal law trumps everything! That's bogus, that's the reason you have to have constitutional amendments and that's the reason California can pass this and they should put people on the border keep the Feds out if they're going to come in and essentially kidnap... By the way this is what happened during the Wisconsin situation back before the Civil War when he wouldn't let these southerners come down and steal blacks from the north

1:34:47 that you know were supposedly fugitive slaves because they couldn't prove they were and so they said no this is kidnapping. And the fact of the matter is, unlawful detention kidnapping is what the feds would be doing if they came in and started busting people for smoking dope in California If we passed Proposition 19 it's going to be a huge issue its gonna be worth watching but it's gonna show exactly where the federal government comes down and the liars like Obama who said they were gonna stop cracking down on medical marijuana places I mean he basically just lied about it because they still do it. So, uh...I'm starting to...I've always kind of been on the sideline of this debate and I really haven't debated you on it

1:35:26 I believe it's going to pass and i have a little different take on, I've got some information that people have been sending me. This whole proposition 19 is really being propagated by an outfit called the DPA are you familiar with them? The DPA? No. I might be but am not. The Drug Policy Alliance uh... you can find a drug policy dot org and they were formed in july two thousand when the linda smith center an activist drug policy think tank established in nineteen ninety four merged with the drug policy foundation membership and grant-making organization established eighty seven to create the world's leading drug policy reform organization of people who believe the war on drugs is doing more harm than good so i start looking into this organization which has very interesting

1:36:14 Board of Directors. I'd like to mention a few of them to you, how about Paul Volcker? Paul Volcker John! How about George Soros these people are on the board of the DPA these are special executive board members and i'm thinking there is some specific mention in Proposition 19 about not just marijuana but about hemp And hemp, the derivative of the marijuana plant outside of this really good stuff that bakes you. Actually there's a lot of hemp plants that have almost no THC in them Correct! Correct and I believe it's going to pass and there will be federal or centralized regulation of hemp which is... It's industry that is worth trillions of dollars Do you know that hemp burns hotter than coal? You can use it as fuel

1:37:16 I mean this is a magical, magical thing. And i think all of this as red herring just so the government can get control and regulate hemp it's not about the marijuana part its not about... who cares? I don't think anyone gives a crap about who smoking or why although that is the medicinal properties are very valuable but hemp by itself is an incredibly valuable product It is a trillion dollar industry And that I think is what this debate is actually about, who's going to control the regulation of hemp? Not of marijuana but of hemp. Monsanto is the answer by the way!

1:37:55 Monsanto. You're probably right, but I like the idea The offshoot of this is still going to be a Tenth Amendment showdown which is fine with me if they want to go off on this hemp thing Hemp also makes paper by the way, paper products Sure! Paper clothing all kinds of stuff And who's gonna own the patent on genetically modified hemp? you know i don't mean your it's my life and that this is the eight but the thing is you gonna bring in soros and these other guys yes just because somebody's attached to name is some doesn't mean we should sell well let's vote no no no no i'm not saying that unless i'm just saying

1:38:32 I think we should vote yes, obviously. I mean i'm a pot smoker, you know? The thing that gets me about what you just brought up and i'm looking at their website right now is that why aren't they putting some fucking money into like promoting the the yes side of it? I don't see any ads I mean Soros has got nothing but dough. Why are they holding back on some, throwing out some... maybe Wavis is going to be at the last minute which probably isn't the most effective way to advertise but i haven't seen one pro or con ad on Proposition 19 by anybody Let me see what's under events let me see if they're doing anything College, college, Prague

1:39:14 No, your question is valid. Well Russell Simmons... And here's the other thing they got a donate now button and by the way don't donate to these guys donate to Dvorak dot org slash NA to our show Hey! They've got podcasts dude! They've got podcasts Cool Who listens to any of this stuff? This is very poorly done Well let's have a listen to The Pot Podcast Let's see Wow Oh they need some production help Hey everybody, welcome to the broadcast of the Drug Policy Alliance. The nation's leading organization working to end the war on drugs To join our movement or learn more about drug policy reform please visit our website at www.drugpolicyalliance.com

1:39:58 I'm Jeanette Irwin and today is Monday, March 2nd 2009. Jesus Christ! 2009 That's their podcast. 2009 Yeah that's great Come on there has to be a newer one than this No i am looking at it right here that the most recent one Audio Archive That's it man Oh this is lame These guys aren't very sincere in their work. Well, no I think they're just in there to help with the regulation They don't care they don't really care it's not about pot smokers It's about the hemp yeah No, I'm getting that but let's go on this is another minute of this really well Here's the it's got that dead NPR sound you know that dead room and we are We are a nation of cowards oh again. I get at 404 error these guys suck they suck

1:40:50 Nice this is the leading. This is the leading organization, maybe they're all stoned Sorrow but Russell Simmons's on his sorrows hey sorrow so don't look at this website and tell me what you doing with your money really dude Well if sorrows and they have a they raised like Volker Volkers in old fart let's face it This is a reflection of that yeah I'm just saying. I'm just saying that I think there's something very big going on here It's a bit poorly know this website is poor, but I think website the podcast sucks They're not don't what are they doing their donations? That's what I'd like to know it's giving themselves salaries I already looked at that they have a by the way their last night form 990 is from 2007 they don't even have 2008 up let alone 2009 and

1:41:42 How does that happen? How do these people get away with, John we're stupid. Dutz were stupid We have to start a 501c and just not file anything You don't have to file anything It's just take the money Don't pay taxes And don't file it and come up with this stupid website Throw up a podcast from 2009 Get a bunch of jabroni dutzes on the board Were dumb! Were really dumb We're going about this the wrong way. Apparently... We're asking people to help us, help us pay bills So these guys are like 12 million dollars The 10th Amendment showdown is gonna happen and this is gonna cause it Of course California leads the way with all of these people from all over the place are moaning and groaning about the Tenth Amendment then a dope legalized drug thing takes place and next thing you know the feds will back off

1:42:41 I think they will too. They don't want a 10th Amendment showdown, nobody does Nobody in the federal government wants a 10th Amendment showdown Yeah so when i brought this up in my conversation with those who will not go named during my dinner at Bobby's restaurant Molly and uh... Don't do that! You know, I got the... yeah but you know this is the way it is. The 10th Amendment says the states are.. we make our own shit up. The federal government can't come in and tell us what to do Yeah but that's outdated. This is a... It's outdated? This, you know that's not the... it's accepted the way we do it now. It's accepted that we have uh.. We have the leader of the free world running our ass! Its accepted this is how we do things here That's how we do things in America and by the way some people at table were not Democrats okay? Not! I'm just saying... Not Democrats! This is just misguided hurts me upsets me Yes since your right there You can do direct propaganda

1:43:42 And you can't get any headway. It's terrible, that's because this is so entrenched and it's not just these folks and others. We get emails, you do and I do both we get emails with somebody who comes up they see something and its obviously wrong the way they're seeing it because to get people untwisted from these models that have been drummed into them, which really want us to be run by a national government for example and to just ignore the way the Constitution was set up or where the country was setup because it's outdated. It is just so entrenched! The schools pounded into you for years... We're talking about decades of education that pound this nonsense in people and then to get to undo all that damage is almost impossible with most people

1:44:36 Yeah, okay. When I was reading Nullification which is a great book by the way i think it's still at the No Agenda Book Club noagendabooks.com you know make sure you get this book and have and please as much as I love you guys please don't send me like a million audiobook versions my email box is getting full I have to like call this thing now but do send me stories when you think that your in your 100th person to send it don't stop there but be careful what you attach That's kind of a pain. So I'm reading this and thinking, can't we start our own state? What is the rule on that? How does that work? Can we start our own state? How do you become a state? Well there actually is a way

1:45:20 to become a state. I mean, I know California could be split into three if it wanted to which i think would be smart Do you have to own the land actually? To become a state? How does that work? Everyone has to agree! There has to be some sort of...I don't know You can become for one thing the federal system requires that everybody agrees Okay well all the other states would have to agree That you could be a state Look into how Hawaii became a state and we'll figure it out Yeah, I mean we should find someplace. We can just become a state and go I mean Alaska was was was a state under apparently kind of sketchy circumstances Alaska may not actually really made that qualifies it may not even be a state actually we don't really know The last the alaskan separatists which exist i'm sarah palin's actually one of them and her husband for sure They have this argument that the whole thing was a scam

1:46:14 And Alaska didn't really vote for statehood. They were scammed into it, they didn't count the Indians... Yeah I've heard that too yeah I've heard that too well i could be That makes sense in a way that makes total sense Absolutely So I wanted to bring up and have a specific reason for doing so A great article in The Telegraph in Gitmo Nation East Actually its from their blogs So probably never got printed in the newspaper but it says Global Warming Fraud colon The tide begins to turn This is this comes on the heels of the Royal Society Being called out for making basic math errors Yeah, I'm their global math errors here. It comes that's not opinion That's science

1:47:01 Science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on I've been waiting to play that Our producer sent that to me, I think it because we know of course we have the science That's not opinion. That's science and And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on. So don't be a denier because she's got a 14 incher yeah But it's but it's a great day, a great about but we won't edit anything but there's a huge amount of great quotes from scientists

1:47:48 Who all just saying a US physics professor. This is the Global warm and this is when we did down Thursday global warming is the greatest and most successfully pseudo scientific fraud I've seen in my long life and We have Another professor, the money flood has become the raison d'etre. That means the reason Let me present some figures below to see why flood was not an exaggeration The money connection... The amount of money spent on anti-AGW that is a human made global warming activity by organizations is a whopping two million dollars a year Shut go away don't Skype me Two million? That's not right Anti! Oh anti! The amount of money spent by pro

1:48:32 AGW organizations on research is three billion dollars a year. That's kind of an interesting yeah, what side are you on? Don't be a denier cuz science is a cold-hearted bitch Well, see if I was a scientist in that field of study and there was three billion going in direction A and two million going in direction B. I'd probably sign on to direction A for the short term And then I could always kick after collecting all the money I could do what this other guy did say okay The gravy trains over this is bullshit yep That's a lot. It's a lot of great quotes I encourage you to read that you can find it in the show notes at no agenda show calm I've not heard any feedback necessarily from people about the new layout or the show notes So I presume it's okay and people are all right with it that it's easier to use I don't know if people still look at the show notes

1:49:28 I mean are these still a good resource to publish John? Do people care or have people become so jaded. Why don't we have our survey guys, we got different ones, survey the listeners as to whether they are using the show notes and whether they care or whether they look for one. I had trouble finding something the other day, because you categorize the show notes using a JavaScript of some sort and you have the notes under a category then click on that little thing and down it goes, you see all the different links so if i wanted to just find something new to look for I'd have to click on all them, so its kind of inconvenient

1:50:05 I think the new, but it's... But yeah. At the same time the old method which had a show notes that like scroll down to China was ridiculous so you don't have really didn't have much of a choice but is still hard defined Well here is what needs to be done Here is what needs to be done because what I do every single week as I publish these in structured data format in OPML And I know that the PocketNoAgenda app uses this. Because the reason I do that is so it can be indexed and someone needs to... There is a, isn't there no agenda show notes site? Hold me say NoAgendaShowNotes.com Let's see if they're up to speed because you should be able to search this stuff here Search Show Notes Okay Give Me A Topic John what were you looking for Oh I wish I could remember

1:50:58 I'd have to think about it. Come on me off-guard. I'm not well, just give me one Just give me anything Okay, how about how about? Well, let's not say more. Let's say 10th Amendment 10th now attempt okay 10th amendment Amendment let's see what it comes up with we're searching were searching where sir there goes The Great Daylight Savings Time Conspiracy on Episode 78. Yeah, it's great! This is noagenda shownotes dot com is perfect. That doesn't... that's not the right answer Of course it's not the right answer Okay we need a better indexing machine This is not good But they're there I publish them every single week and the links that rock It's the show notes in OPML format Let's do something with that Otherwise why bother? People don't care

1:51:45 Yeah, we have to make sure people care. They have to go look at these show notes and by the way if it's just one like because there are some gems in there And if you don't like it then fix it make something better will publicize that were really good at that Please help us here We need some help And if you want, you can just go to noagendashow.com and click on the donation page. So there's one thing I wanted to get into before we finish this show which was again on Cnet or C-Span, I'm sorry. Cnet, let me see what's there? C-Span it was a four and half hour panel Wow! You watched it? Yeah of course she did On counterfeit drugs

1:52:36 And it was like, counterfeit drugs. I was thinking what do you know? Apparently the counterfeit drug situation is so out of control that you have any idea how much counterfeit i mean it's like almost half the agencies is no half the drug this guy one guy came out give a story about play this this is this guy who got counterfeit drugs he said aids patient and a pharmacist and he you know just goes getting bomb drugs from from cv s by my dad And play this, this is his sad story and it's a little long but it's worth listening to for the punchline. Counterfeit drug story about Rekus which one of the companies... Then I want to know who are these people if that's the problem? Man I met some of them in trial in Las Vegas that I

1:53:25 testified and I saw them face to face, and this was a year after. All those feelings just came back. Here these two guys walk in... And I thought that I was past it! And all these feelings came back, and all the anger and disbelief that there are people out there who could put medicine out there for people to take that wasn't real. One not the medicine that i needed. Two something potentially dangerous And they didn't care. They just didn't care and there they were, and at the end their company was penalized and they weren't going to be allowed to get a license to open up a company again in the state of Nevada but they still walked out and got in their cars went home

1:54:20 It's very, very upsetting. Their primary distributor was a group in Florida called the Walkers. This couple... well his name may have not been Walker but they were this couple and Gary who's over there? Who is a character in the book dangerous doses as well a guy selling a book Is that what this is about no so one of the people on the panel was wrote a book called dangerous doses And he was just referring to that book knows the story intimately But The Walkers these are bold Bold people. They had a company called RECUS, that was their licensed company name distributorship. RECUS. R-E-C-K-U-S That was their company name They handled the drugs that I injected. RECUS by the way is sucker spelled backwards. That was the name of their company These people are really bad...bad People Why did they do it? You're gonna hear more

1:55:22 So I love that so hold on a second what exactly are Counterfeit drugs these are drugs that are made in China mostly It pack is just like the regular things you were talking about those $10 tablets of this that and the other thing Lipitor was it was? You mean this stuff you buy on the internet. Do you mean that stuff yeah, but well it turns out that people who go to Mexico to buy The drugs are probably getting counterfeits People who go to Canada or buy stuff over the internet are probably getting counterfeit. They're all over the place, I was thinking... But does count but I just want to understand counterfeit can mean a number of things No it means it's a fake pill It's just sugar something else Just something that's not good Whatever they get together whatever they got in the bin Yeah doesn't make any difference as long as its colored like... Yeah yeah yeah! I've got some stuff on the bin here So

1:56:11 I was thinking, well how much of this is going on? This one guy moaned about his doctor son doesn't even know that there are counterfeit drugs out there. The public doesn't know nobody's being told nobody gives a crap about the whole thing and you have to wonder how many pills... What does a pill weigh? A couple grams I mean how much counterfeit drugs can there possibly be floating around? Well in this one clip, there's one piece of information that we start to play counterfeit drug kickoff and there is one interesting piece of information about counterfeit drugs that are coming from China going to Paraguay and then going into Brazil. How many counterfeit drugs you think are coming in? Counterfeit drugs since 1992, 93. We're watching them come across the border from Mexico

1:56:57 This last year, past year we have seen many instances and showcased the problems with counterfeit drugs and how widespread it was. Two weeks ago I was in Brazil and i was just shocked working with the US Embassy consulate people when they told me that they had seized 400 tons of counterfeit drugs in the last two years coming across the border from Paraguay and Bolivia And I wonder how many people actually are cured by this stuff? Well, you know remember that placebo? Yeah 25% are cured even though they get the placebo. Yeah and I think this is what you're getting as an amounting to placebos except for the fact that the Chinese are such a don't give a shit

1:57:40 that a lot of these pills are like, for all you know are arsenic. I mean there's they just mix in a lot of weird shit is put into these things. But how does it get into CVS? Which is a big drugstore chain in America Well like the guy said it was these distributors like Rekus who somehow would get an account with CVS looking like a legitimate operation and then they'd maybe bring in some legitimate pills from Eli Lilly, and the next thing you know this stuff's coming in from China. And then they're just dumping this stuff at pure profit instead of having to pay what they have to pay. It's just a money-making scheme. Then they get busted so somebody didn't get their pills big deal! Interesting Now there is one last funny little short clip

1:58:23 which is the apparently the head of the China FDA was executed. Executed! This way should do this here by the way. Yeah, we should do more that like off with their heads but it's kind of funny because this journalist from The New York Times has been covering this and he bitches and moans at nobody gives a crap yeah play the counterfeit drug china execution clip cuz there's a funny moment in here to publicize this and not scare the dickens out people But to do the kind of work that will lead to, you know, the kind of reform that'll make our drug supply chain safer.

1:59:02 The United States is paying much more attention to this. I could say that China's paying more attention to it, and I do believe they are... They did execute the head of the Chinese FDA That wasn't my intent when i got into this story But it is now the standard for investigative reporters everywhere If there ain't an execution Don't apply for a Pulitzer Prize I thought it was funny. That's great you write a story the guy gets executed Power of the press awesome

1:59:44 What'd you do? I just chopped their heads off. You've chopped somebody's... Oh, I get it. Anyway so this counterfeit drug thing which i'm not going to cover anymore is apparently a plague worldwide and if there are 400 tons of pills going into Brazil I am assuming that a lot of the drugs you get in Brazil are probably not up to par No, you may want to avoid those Wow, stellar Well, uh... Gee John usually you end on a high note. Sorry! You've been able to boge me out man that's awesome

2:00:24 Well if you got nothing left to do. I got one thing we're doing, one last thing and then we're done okay all right so We did the part where the guy from PBS actually double questioned what's his name Harry Reid said hey he didn't answer the question yeah So i'm starting to see a little loosening up on the news media You know instead of just reading stuff actually saying this is a bogus story This actually happened, although it's not an important story. But there was one of these stories on KPIX in the local area here that some couple of guys who obviously never played baseball in their life... and this has by the way been disproven a million times they like to say that this is an old theory that there's no such thing as curveball in baseball It's just an optical illusion

2:01:09 And so these guys came up with another optical illusion that shows that the curveball doesn't curve, when in fact it's been studied to death with high-speed cameras and everything. The ball will curve... you know hook a little bit like an inch or two if its thrown by a guy who knows what he is doing But meanwhile, they run this story about these eggheads or the scientists which are called egg heads later. And as they're running the story somebody on the crew says yells something during the story and then the anchor goes after the story as bogus. Okay. Goes left see it? No! Okay so next time you see a curveball you'll know it's all in your head

2:01:46 or mine, or something. These eggheads ever actually play baseball? Because they break! I don't care what that graphic shows you it's moving 90 miles an hour it's breaking not an optical illusion the mystery building next to the Golden Gate Bridge thats next on Good Question I know and I don't understand where did it go wrong Well, they had this story that was a straight-up science story about how a curveball doesn't break and then this guy comes out at the end of it. And says his story's bogus! Of course the question is why did they run the story in the first place? Time fillers! They needed 30 seconds before the commercial He spoke up I'm just saying he spoke up. I like to see guys speaking up once in awhile Here's what he should have said That's not opinion That's science

2:02:36 And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on. There goes our donations for this week. I don't think so... Oh yeah, oh it's George Clooney now as the sexual innuendo with a Yeah this is gonna be your theory You're like hey I can pay bills because you had to play the strap on clip Thanks Five times? So?! It's funny! Well it's funny once It's from Dexter by the way, it was on television That was on Dexter? I think so, yeah. Oh, I thought it was just one of our listeners No! I'm pretty sure it was like...on TV You should watch it sometimes John It's really entertaining I try not to watch anything but C-SPAN And when I watched the Law and Order shows everybody gets mad at me Yeah Well you know what, you should try it next week because donations are up when you watch that shit So.. Yeah thats a good point

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