Episode 239 · Thursday, 30 September 2010

Change Comes From GNU

A secret retribution plan for Pakistan emerges alongside a Blackwater rebranding effort as the surveillance state moves from the battlefield to the streets of Los Angeles.

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About this episode

Bob Woodward's new book Obama's Wars reveals a secret U.S. retribution plan targeting Pakistan in the event of a domestic terror attack. The revelation coincides with rumors of a massive cabinet reshuffle involving Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and the potential return of Colin Powell to the Pentagon. These high-level maneuvers suggest a strategic pivot as the administration grapples with intelligence leaks and the shifting optics of the war in Afghanistan.

In the private sector, the military contractor formerly known as Blackwater has rebranded as Xe Services, a move reportedly designed as an SEO strategy to bury the company's controversial history in search results. Meanwhile, the UNODC Afghanistan Opium Survey reports a massive yield drop due to a mysterious plant infection, even as cultivation areas remain stable at 123,000 hectares. On the domestic front, the TSA and Smith's Detection are preparing to deploy high-powered X-ray scanners capable of penetrating a foot of steel, while the National Suspicious Activity Reporting Initiative expands surveillance over encrypted platforms like Skype and BlackBerry.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the propaganda loops of Law & Order: Los Angeles and the normalization of surveillance through Lindsay Lohan's SCRAM bracelet. The episode features the official knighthood of Sir Peter Martine and Sir Fred Lust under the show's value-for-value model. Retired Air Force personnel also provide testimony regarding UFO incursions at nuclear missile sites, claiming unidentified craft have successfully disabled launch codes.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Gitmo Nation West, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 239 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. The hosts exchange greetings and discuss the local weather, including a recent cooling trend and a rainbow in Northern California. Curry mentions his "Gitmo jewelry" package and welcomes listeners in the chat room.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· southern california· silicon valley

00:00 Yeah, it's shirt off that creepy guy that ran Homeland Security. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, September 30th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 239-er. This is no agenda. Preparing for my Gitmo jewelry package to arrive here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the fog has returned finally, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yo, in the morning to you John. So how's the weather down there? Is it still hot? Ah no, it finally cooled off. Yesterday we actually had a couple of droplets of rain.

00:45 and a rainbow. Global warming. Global warming, I know. In the morning to all ships at sea and all the human resources in the chat room at noagendachat.net. Hope you're all charged up and ready to go the way your government loves you because Gitmo Nation is alive and well my friends and very strong. So I understand you're not feeling your best. No, yesterday I think Mickey gave it to me. I had like a throat ache and I had a fever yesterday. It's really weird. Was it something you ate or you think it's a virus? No, I think it's just a virus. A throat ache. I mean does that come from something you eat? No. Are you googling? Throat ache. Hmm, let me see what he could have. I'm gonna see if the spreadsheet came in. It came in like at one this morning.

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Military Helicopter Activity, Gray Chinooks and Apaches Over Los Angeles

Adam Curry reports a continuous presence of military helicopters over his house, including gray Chinooks, Blackhawks, and armed Apaches. He expresses concern over the frequency of these flights and notes that local residents in Los Angeles seem indifferent to the activity. Dvorak finds the presence of armed Apaches particularly disturbing.

chinook· blackhawk· apache· military helicopters· los angeles

01:40 You go really yeah, you got to go way last night. Oh, that's why I didn't see it Yeah, you got to go way back. I don't know like 400 pieces of mail between midnight I know I was like did Eric fall out of bed, or did he was not able to get into bed? I don't know what happened, but no it was it was it was real early. No that was actually quite good and So anyway, so I feel kind of crappy man. I don't know. I don't know what's going on it could also be The swine flu my friend swine flu yes could be the shit they chemtrail over the house could be all kinds of stuff and by the way the helicopters have not stopped the that's all about I don't know man and and no one else seems to know either and it's a Chinooks information and they're they're gray by the way all these

02:26 So I don't know which division they belong to but they're great and then there's Blackhawks and then there's Apaches and then there's Apaches. Apaches flying over. I don't get it. I don't understand why. The Apaches are disturbing, yeah. Yeah, particularly because they looked armed and loaded. Cocked and loaded. They've got like sticks hanging on the side which to me means like missiles and stuff. Anyway, so I did you have won't you ask around could call it and ask them No, I have been asking I've been I've been asking on the show and no one seems to know everyone else says yeah That's kind of weird haven't seen that for one. No one seems to care. No one in Los Angeles cares like well, I see I don't see anything man. Have you seen the new season lineup though?

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Saab 9-3 Turbo, Night Mode and Ignition Design Quirks

Adam Curry discusses his recent purchase of a 1999 Saab 9-3 Turbo convertible for $3,000. He describes several unique design features of the vehicle, including a "night mode" button that disables the entire dashboard display and the unconventional placement of the ignition switch between the front seats. Dvorak critiques the ergonomics of the ignition placement, noting its vulnerability to liquid spills.

saab 9-3· turbo· convertible· night mode· ignition switch

03:14 That's all they care about here. Have you seen the new shows Jennifer Aniston can't buy a hit. Yeah, that's all the talk is here, man Crazy, it's totally useless totally useless. Hey anyway. I had a very nice week though of course now I have wheels I have a 1999 Saab 9 or 3 turbo I've done. I'm discovering which cost me three grand is a great car. I'm discovering more things about this and One, the lights do not turn off. They turn off when you turn off the key. It's like they're always on. Oh really? Yeah, I don't know why that is. No, there's something, you got something turned wrong. No, no, no. The light switch is absolutely ineffective. And there's this thing that has, there's a button on the dash for a night mode.

04:08 So you can I guess dim your lights or something it actually cuts out power to the entire dashboard It's like everything goes off not just the light in the dashboard Yes, it wants to turn down the lights because at night you don't want to be blinded No, no, but it also turns off the fuel gauge the the tachometer the speedometer everything goes to zero It just turns everything off everything's is off. Yeah, I But the is for stealth driving. I don't know but the the roof is in good condition. It's a convertible So I I just have that down. I'm kind of like what's the guy from California? Would no no man. Oh, yeah, it was the guy from California who's who drives the the the Porsche convertible with one headlight shot That's kind of this car except except there's not a Porsche It's a sob

04:58 That's a hundred and thirteen thousand on the clock. Well I've always thought you were a sob guy down underneath it all. Oh please! That is so rude. I'm not a sob guy. That's a horrible thing to say. In fact, if anything, I'm a total anti-sab guy. It's just the worst. But I have to say the car is nice. It runs fine. I've driven those subs and they're actually fairly, uh, they're kind of weird. They got weird things like the keyhole. Yeah. It's in the middle up and down. So if you spill your coffee, it'll never start again. It's right in between the, in the middle between the seats. Why would they do that? And it's up and down. That's the joke of it.

05:35 No, it's when he means up and down. You put the key down into it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would they do that? So in other words, if you spill something, it goes down into the keyhole. Yeah, that's true. Don't spill anything. But anyway, 113,000 miles and it's still going strong. Starts every morning like that. So it was a nice week that I had a car to toodle around and didn't talk to you at all since the last show, which is also always nice. Because you know then when I it's kind of like you know like a girlfriend I haven't seen in a while now I feel good about talking to you Yeah, you don't get to and you get to hear these stories about what's going on in the office

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

TechCrunch Disrupt Conference, Mocking Startup Elevator Pitches

The hosts discuss the TechCrunch Disrupt conference, which they characterize as a "douchebag festival." They recount an anecdote involving associates who mocked the event by forcing startup founders to deliver elevator pitches into microphones held at extreme heights or near the ground. The segment also mentions appearances by John Doerr and Bing Gordon.

techcrunch· elevator pitch· bing gordon· john doerr· startup culture

06:16 Yeah, you haven't told me what's going on at the office. So Butler and Eddie, and people can find Eddie on my blog, he's a celebrity. He's a celebrity. He's doing a walk-on on House, I hear. Butler and they went to the TechCrunch douchebag festival. Oh my goodness. We were watching that. Actually we did speak, we text messaged for a while while we were watching John Doerr and Bing Gordon at the opening show. Did you stick around long enough to listen to Bing's poem?

06:55 little brother so anyway yeah it was a pretty bad so butler who thinks everybody's a douchebag goes over there and they decide out of the blue to make up some bullcrap story that they're gonna be they're gonna get people to give them their two-minute elevator pitch but the microphones aren't working right but they're recording this because of interference so they're gonna have to hold the mic way up in the air or way down by the ground so it sounds really good no no so the guy has to bend over Well, he's giving his pitch like, you know, something. So he's talking to the ground? Yeah. That's a professional. And then the other one, he's got the mic way up in the air so the guy's like on his tiptoes trying to, and these guys aren't picking up on it.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Credits, Knighthoods and Community Projects

The hosts acknowledge financial support from their audience, announcing new executive producers and the knighthood of Peter Martine and Fred Lust. They promote various community-led initiatives, including No Agenda golf balls, a LinkedIn group, virtual and physical producer badges, and QR code t-shirts. Adam Curry highlights the "value for value" model and the success of listener-driven commerce.

knighthood· executive producer· no agenda stuff· linkedin· qr code

07:39 But anyway, so anyway, all right. Hey John did did anyone? Check in as a producer for this program. Yeah, we got some good producers this week We got one two, three, four five executive producers and one associate. Okay, and Sweet so then one of course went to knighthood which is Peter Martine love the show keep up with the good work and nighthood and executive producer $1,000 so he's a new knight friend. Did he just come out of the blue? Yeah. He's been with us before because he's donated before apparently. Well thank you. Fred Lust from Kitchinville, Ohio has finished his knighthood donation with $663.23.

08:25 and then uh... polka tour uh... sir paul uh... five four three two one like to deem this they hit it donation keep up the great work uh... ten ten ten quints of sold out call while he's done it again has not for a third how about we promote the tour until adam and mickey where to go up i've been telling where to go for a while it is now you know uh... mister oil uh... sent me a note and apparently he has indeed secured the rv for november uh... which is great i think we might have to do this tour in two parts i think it's actually really good so i'm not recommending that we drive west coast east coast in november so i can hit uh... upstate new york for thanksgiving and then we can drive back and then uh... and then and you know maybe in the spring we do some of the colder regions i'm not gonna go to alaska in in november december i did not with an rv doesn't seem to be going to alaska at all uh...

09:23 Randy Asher came in with some funding from his t-shirt sales at noagendastuff.com. Cool. $420 he thinks is the perfect number. So these, yeah of course $420, it's $420 somewhere. Hey but this is, so this, once again our model's really working and I have a couple more things to promote in just a moment. Let me get done with these guys first. Larry Lee, Granite Shoals, Texas, 33333, Joshua Brickner, and those are the executive producers, and then the associate executive would be Joshua Brickner, Loveland, Colorado, Adam and John in the morning in January created a second version of my No Agenda stream, iPhone app, promised 50% of the proceeds would go to you guys, the app is sold almost 400 copies including both versions. I think people out there should get this for sure at various price points and

10:14 He sent us to 71 19 from that's great. You know I really it just makes me smile when When this stuff works when you get like the t-shirts work in the no agenda challenge coins and of course we have the 10 10 10 coins at no agenda fans comm and some other PR initiatives that are fledgling but can certainly work Robin Bonin Hey, Bonin. Bonin. B-O-N-I-N. Robin Bonin. Hey, John and I just want to let you guys know I purchased the domain noagendagolfballs.com. I work for golfballs.com. We recently started a line of golf balls that allow you to select a logo to print on your balls.

10:56 I created a no agenda category allowing anyone to order no agenda logo golf balls They are beautiful if you're a golfer then these golf balls are for you. No agenda golf balls calm Actually, they would also make a good gift. They make it make a great gift. Yeah, and this beautiful. It's got the The you know our no agenda in the morning logo you can get this two different logos. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful set I'm not a golfer, but if I was I'd be and you can hit your own balls in the mouth and Hmm. There you go That that should be their slogan hit your own balls in your mouth There's a no agenda LinkedIn group, which just started I was a little confused about this I know you saw the email as well Is there anything special that has to be done here or do we just join the group when you're in LinkedIn? Okay, I don't know if you require. No. No, I you know, I'm not a big joiner No, but you're so you're listed though. You're listed as manager of the group. I think I

11:53 Oh, yeah, oh you need to manage. Yes. There's another one of my fine Thing I do You're a manager and okay, well I'm a manager of the group but the point is is that I think you have to get either invited I think you can invite yourself into the group and then the group just needs to approve maybe it's only for nights and No, I think it's for anybody who wants to if you're a LinkedIn and you want to be in the no agenda LinkedIn group I think you should just be a member. It's not it's not a Knights Club most of the nights I don't think are even on LinkedIn. They're all you know people that are out of that rat race Then we have no agenda badge calm now the newly restyled redesigned including a new slave badge

12:41 Part of the redesign is using the human resource officer badge to raise $5,000 for the show. So this is the virtual badge, $1 each. Actually, I got a badge 001 crackpot for myself and donated $1. These badges are nice and you get an email with your badge. It's customized and you can put it on your website. You can also cut it out and paste it on your t-shirt perhaps. But he actually says he has, this is Justin, says he has a manufacturer for the physical producer badges. Once he finds 25 people willing to purchase the first series, he'll place an order for 27. So you and I, John, will each get a badge as well. 100% of the profits from the physical badge go to the show and 75% of the image human resource officer badges go to the show. The other 25% is from my own hookers and blow. Excellent, Justin. Then there's

13:37 These are kind of cool the no agenda QR code t-shirts. Oh, yeah, you know I'm surprised we haven't done that earlier somebody hasn't done that. Yeah, so you can just What is it does it link directly to no agenda show that camera? Yeah, so someone scans your t-shirt the QR code it links to no agenda show.com the t-shirt has the QR code and in the morning if I make any money off the meager percentage I will donate the proceeds to no agenda that's from JB and And then I had also promised to promote noagendatv.com who do a great job of pulling out all the videos in the show notes of noagendashow.com and propagating those. So go out and check that. And of course, check out the links that rock section in the show notes that

14:27 That's really where you can find all these great initiatives and thank you so much. And of course, special thanks to Peter Martine, Fred Lust, Paul Couture, Sir Paul, Sir Randy Asher and Larry Lee for being our executive producers of this episode, episode 239 of the No Agenda Show. As you know, you can put that on your resume. It's a real credit. Some of you need new business cards which are longer. Now you have so many associate or executive producer credits. And of course Joshua Bruckner is our associate executive producer. Again it's highly appreciated all the work that you guys do in helping us sustain the show. We'll talk more about that of course during our support segment. And then all the rest of you out there, you need to go out and propagate the formula. You know what to do. It's real simple. Say it loud and proud. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Alright everybody, shut up! Sleep!

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Blackwater Name Change, Xe Services and SEO Strategy

John C. Dvorak recounts a conversation with a hedge fund investor regarding the private military company Blackwater, now known as Xe Services. The investor claims the name change to "Xe" was a deliberate search engine optimization (SEO) strategy intended to make the company harder to find in search results. The discussion also touches on the company's alleged activities in Pakistan.

blackwater· xe services· seo· private military· pakistan

15:37 Funny on the thing it's the t-shirt site. There's a link that said shop you slave Or else you know I'm Mickey had a couple people over That's where he got sick from no, it's possible. Yeah, actually it was a One guy was an artist the other guy was like part. You know like a hobby gallery holder a gallery gallery dude and But was interesting he actually invests. He has a hedge fund or something. I don't know you're a money guy, and I think Not a bullshit money guy And you usually particularly in LA. I'm like man. What was this douchebag? Everybody's full of shit right and I'm like so I'm very apprehensive and then I start you know this guy start Yeah, he's starting to sound like he's for real. You know I'm listening and

16:33 And I was busy doing stuff and they've been out for an hour or so, so I joined them out on the deck. And it becomes pretty apparent pretty quickly where I stand on any issue discussed. Although I'm really laid back and I'm mellow, right? And then the guy says, yeah, I'm really interested to know what you think of Blackwater. And I'm like, you mean Gzee? He says, yeah. I said, well, you know, besides, you know, the 30,000 black ops in Pakistan, drones killing people, the gun smuggling, the drug smuggling, yeah, someone's got to do the job. The guy says, hey, the drugs weren't true, man. I'm like, what? Apparently his fund is 20% invested in Blackwater.

17:12 So I get all kinds of inside dirt, but the most the funniest thing though is the name change I'm like why why did they change the name if it wasn't obvious enough? You know what the answer is seo seo because if you just enter z xe You'll never find it Because you know it's like the most well they wanted they want to minimize yes, they want to minimize SEO so that's They chose the craziest name that is you know that is impossible to search for you should just change the name to the yeah Well, I don't think the.com is available They were able to get Z calm and by the way. There's no drugs. That's not their culture So I had a great chat with the guy It was pretty funny

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Law & Order Los Angeles, Hollywood Propaganda and Lounge Music

The hosts critique the premiere of Law & Order: Los Angeles, arguing that the show portrays a "douchebag" culture and serves as propaganda. They analyze clips that mirror real-life events involving Lindsay Lohan and the "Bling Ring" burglaries. Adam Curry points out the use of "house music" or "lounge music" in the background as a specific atmospheric choice to influence the audience.

law & order· los angeles· lindsay lohan· nbc· propaganda

17:57 Nice little some insight inside. They were checking on you. I guess so No other reason for that guy to be there. You don't know who he is. No he seems okay. Yeah Sure, yeah, I'm not too worried. Well. I wouldn't be in the order. We have the Blackhawks over the house. What do you need? Really really Apaches The Apaches are worrisome Blackhawks I can deal with but Apaches hmm. They look kind of ominous and So, uh, I... This is the last of this, by the way. The last show finally appeared on television. Oh, do you... Wait, we're gonna do another, uh... Another, uh, new season of television show, a clip? This is it. And I only have two clips. But, so they brought out Law & Order Los Angeles, which is totally... It's remarkably misnamed. It should be Law & Order Douchebags.

18:58 that really yeah everybody in the things a douchebag the criminals are douchebags the cops are douchebags the days everybody it's unbelievable and to give you an idea what the show where the show's head and what it's going to be about Play clip the first clip law and order Los Angeles, and you'll get a clue Okay, Colin cheated on Miranda with Chelsea Senate They did he at the club then some coke back at her place my daughter loves her in those two dance school movies Those were Disney movies. We're just a kid now. This you know Oh 20 exactly their point you're making that I'm missing like 99% of 12 year old girls were killed to be the illegal drinking e-popping club crawling Chelsea Senate

19:42 Wait a minute. They're talking about Lindsay Lohan. This is about Lindsay Lohan, isn't it? and and then we will be asking the stories about lindsey lohan and her mom but it's you know they have a twisted their dad they also have to have the angle of the burglaries that you were going on around the world we have the uh... the bling the bling ring gangling raiders and they've been the thing is on this case lindsey lohan of or chelsea where her name is mom was the ringleader but to get into good brother was to get a little more flavor play the second clip which which is a one of the girls as in this little group of of uh... of i don't know what he would love what to call but she uh... is the

20:20 kind of a... this sets the bar just a little higher about the level of bullcrap that we're gonna have to listen to if anybody really wants to watch this show. Bag of unchick. Retail, how much is that worth? $2,000 maybe? So when exactly were the items stolen? March 9th. It was Chelsea's birthday. We got kicked out of Mondrian. Then she threw a drink at her ex at Avalon, the ridiculous one with the reality show KK. When I got home I was packing for London to go visit my parents when I realized the shirt was gone Why didn't you report it then? I was going to London you realize there's probably a dozen more Vickys out there don't even know it's almost over burglary still burglary and Miranda's not Vicky Okay, wait wait wait it kid I don't if you could back it up that's that funny thing is I clipped that that part of the end off but

21:13 When she says I'm going to London, I want you to listen there's about a six... Yeah, six second delay. Yeah. There's about a... well it's actually not even that long, it's about three seconds which seems like an eternity on television. But listen to what they're playing. Okay. I realized the shirt was gone. Why didn't you report it then? I was going to London. You realize it's probably a... Okay, so they're playing this little ditty now in the original Law & Order series they would play you know dogs barking and sirens going off and... Now it's house music. ...the normal background music. Now it's house music. Here they're playing some dipshit music.

21:51 That's like ding dong music that is like what are they you know what is the message here what what what what is the mood they're trying to get the audience into I don't know I think this shows a complete disaster. Well no I think that they're right on message actually because what what you're hearing there in the background is what you hear in the Mondrian Hotel. It's what you hear at every at the SLS Hotel and all these hipster hotels where everybody hangs out in Los Angeles. This is exactly the music that is played. This this crap. Listen listen. Why didn't you report it then? It's called lounge music. Whatever. And it's crap. And I think they're right on message, John. This is very interesting because this is all about all the little girls have to be like Lilo and get your Gitmo jewelry which we predicted and has now come true.

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Lindsay Lohan, Scram Bracelet and Presidential Slut Squad

Adam Curry discusses reports that Lindsay Lohan attempted to sell paparazzi photos of herself wearing her SCRAM alcohol-monitoring bracelet. He frames this as a fulfillment of his "Gitmo jewelry" prediction, suggesting Lohan is part of a "presidential slut squad" used to normalize surveillance technology. The hosts also mention the existence of a No Agenda predictions tracking website.

lindsay lohan· scram bracelet· paparazzi· gitmo jewelry· prediction

22:43 Yeah. And not only that, but the best part about Lindsay Lohan is that she was out hawking her pictures. to paparazzi agencies. She was trying to get 10 grand from anybody who would pay for it. For her to pose with her scram bracelet. Here's the... This is from a site called, what is it? Shutter Voice, which I guess is some kind of paparazzi site. And here they actually say that she was calling up different paparazzi photo distributors. According to several online magazines, the celebrity was last seen after a post-rehab time period. She was attempting to sell her scram bracelet by marketing her photograph in which the bracelet is hanging around her neck.

23:36 Well that's not the right place to have it. No, but that's where it's headed. That's exactly where it's headed. That's where it's headed. Put it on the prediction list. And I'm just like wow, you know, now it's so obvious she's on the presidential slut squad. She gets called in to promote the scram bracelet and here she gets to make a couple grand on the side by selling the pictures. If anyone thinks it's not true, how can we predict it continuously? Well, it's like walking down Broadway. But around the neck, somebody should do noagendapredictions.com and keep track of our predictions because it's unbelievable how good we are. I think it actually exists, doesn't it? Noagendapredictions.com. It probably does. Two or three versions. Anyway, so that's my last review. It does exist. Noagendapredictions.com and it's a calendar that is completely empty. Great. Somebody did a follow-up.

24:29 What do you want for nothing? So meanwhile, the SVU show, which has actually taken, I think is now the lead show for propagandizing the public. More than what we just heard? Be like Lilo? Are you kidding me? There's more? It gets worse? I'm talking about spot on messaging that is going to have an impact immediately, not just to dull the senses of the public. And so they did this show about some woman who was a serial rapist, that they pretty much, they could do everything they wanted. I mean, they had all the evidence against the guy except for one thing, that one girl was going to testify against him apparently, had been raped by him ten years earlier. And now that's gone beyond the statute of limitations.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

SVU Rape Kit Backlog, Media Coordination and Legislative Action

The hosts examine a Law & Order: SVU episode regarding untested rape kits that aired the same night as local news reports about a San Francisco bill to mandate DNA testing. They argue this is a "packaged" media effort where entertainment programming is used to predispose the public toward specific government actions and legislative mandates.

svu· rape kits· dna testing· san francisco· media packaging

23:36 Well that's not the right place to have it. No, but that's where it's headed. That's exactly where it's headed. That's where it's headed. Put it on the prediction list. And I'm just like wow, you know, now it's so obvious she's on the presidential slut squad. She gets called in to promote the scram bracelet and here she gets to make a couple grand on the side by selling the pictures. If anyone thinks it's not true, how can we predict it continuously? Well, it's like walking down Broadway. But around the neck, somebody should do noagendapredictions.com and keep track of our predictions because it's unbelievable how good we are. I think it actually exists, doesn't it? Noagendapredictions.com. It probably does. Two or three versions. Anyway, so that's my last review. It does exist. Noagendapredictions.com and it's a calendar that is completely empty. Great. Somebody did a follow-up.

24:29 What do you want for nothing? So meanwhile, the SVU show, which has actually taken, I think is now the lead show for propagandizing the public. More than what we just heard? Be like Lilo? Are you kidding me? There's more? It gets worse? I'm talking about spot on messaging that is going to have an impact immediately, not just to dull the senses of the public. And so they did this show about some woman who was a serial rapist, that they pretty much, they could do everything they wanted. I mean, they had all the evidence against the guy except for one thing, that one girl was going to testify against him apparently, had been raped by him ten years earlier. And now that's gone beyond the statute of limitations.

25:18 but they could probably, they sold the rape kit, but nobody did anything with the rape kit. It just sat there for 10 years and then it became degraded and they couldn't prove anything and so this guy almost got off, but then they had a tricky ending, which I thought was lame, because they had this whole story, went 55 minutes of trying to get this guy for rape and then they got him for some kidnapping charge and some technicality. So, I say, well, it's an interesting story. Boom. So I listen to the news. Play the news after SVU. This is the local newscast. So this is right after the show. This is the local newscast. Well, actually, there was the Law & Order Los Angeles, then the news. Okay. Well, tonight lawmakers in San Francisco are working on a bill that would require DNA from every rape kit be tested. That, after revelations that some rape kit samples have been sitting untested for months,

26:10 Even years in the city's crime lab, leaving victims with little justice. NBC-Bayer's Vicki Wynn joins us now with more on this new mandate. Supervisor Michaela Aliotto-Pierce says the law will be ready for review in two weeks. She says it would require the timely testing of DNA samples in every rape or sexual assault case. They have a backlog of 4,000 rape kits. He says he'll get me the results when he has them. Untested DNA rape kits, the basis for a Law & Order TV episode. But the backlog is far from fiction. Nationwide, some 200,000 rape kits sit unprocessed on crime lab shelves. In San Francisco, the crime lab is so understaffed, Police Commissioner Jim Hammer says it's unknown how many kits sit. So what's the message here? So here, it's not about the message, I'm wondering, here we go.

27:00 we have the show that runs that night they have a news story the same night with clips from the show. Package, yeah of course, of course it's completely packaged. Is this like a memo that goes out, okay here's what we want you to cover on tonight's news. Yeah, that's the news, here's the news, shut up slave, here's the news, you will run this as news, news, news, it's news. Take it as news. That's exactly how it works. I mean these rape kits weren't, you know, what about last year? They could have started this program then, but so they have to do the SVU, so it's a double whammy. You get the SVU with this message, oh terrible, this woman would have, you know, there's no justice. And then they have, I mean it's just, I was flabbergasted. So there's definitely something going on then with these rape, there's something about rape in general that is coming to the forefront. Did you see the winner of the TechCrunch circle jerk?

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Black Box for Women, Personal Security iPhone App

Adam Curry describes a pitch from the TechCrunch conference for a "black box" iPhone app designed for women's safety. The app would record audio and track location data for the 30 minutes preceding an incident. The hosts view this as part of a broader trend toward increased personal surveillance and government-aligned security messaging.

iphone app· black box· personal security· techcrunch· surveillance

27:46 No, I couldn't take it. It was some chick who by the way in kind of a boyish crazy way was kind of sexy and she created an iPhone app or I think she hasn't actually created it. It's her pitch which I'm like it's a good idea. I should go make that before she even does it. It's a black box for women. So it's an iPhone app that runs and it is updating. Check that, it's like, have some Gitmo, have a Gitmo app. It updates your, like the last 30 minutes of your location, it's recording sound. It's a black box, it's a black box for women so in case you show up, or don't show up, or show up dead, then they have apparently, they've got the black box and that one. I'm like, okay, alright.

28:36 So there's something going on with this. Yeah, we have to start following it or paying more attention to it because there is, I agree, we haven't tuned into it but seeing this SVU show with this crazy story that then gets pitched as a news item on the same night. And people don't even think about the fact that that's actually happening, that the entertainment is being promoted with a news story. yeah that is being packaged and and the affiliates i guess our are forced to run that to you know this is a local story i mean this is a california story so i assume most of this stations in california ran again it was about california addition in the in the many sd you show but i would assume that this kind of thing we're gonna start seeing more of which is you know uh... entertainment that is actually a message to to predispose you to some government action that will take place later

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

UNODC Afghanistan Opium Survey, Production Statistics and Monsanto

The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) released its 2010 Afghanistan Opium Survey, reporting a sharp drop in opium yields due to a plant infection. Adam Curry analyzes the report's data, noting that while yields are down, the actual area of cultivation remains unchanged at 123,000 hectares. The hosts mock the precision of the UN's census data regarding poppy-farming households.

unodc· afghanistan· opium· poppy cultivation· united nations

29:33 And yeah, you get to be disposed because they dramatize it. You get to do the dramatic part of why it needs to be done and then they can tell you the news part which is supposed to be objective. So, the new UNODC report is out, John. And of course you're thinking, what is the UNODC? What is the UNODC? The UNODC is the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime. drugs and crime. These are the guys who reported that you know 400 billion dollars was funneled from drug money into Wall Street which actually saved us from economic peril worldwide. These are the guys who can tell us as of today that opium production Afghanistan has almost halved in the past year. They have a full report

30:25 And what we love, John and I, what we really love about the report is the accuracy and the detail of the numbers. You'd think for something so highly illegal it would kind of be a guesstimate, but oh no. They know exactly, down to the megaton. They know everything. And I had a look through the report Actually I should, so the highlight is what BBC here says. The sharp drop is largely due to a plant infection which has drastically reduced yields. says the UN office on drugs and crime, but it warns that production is unlikely to stay low with rising prices tempting farmers to cultivate more opium poppies. And of course this is the business that we're in in Afghanistan. That's what everyone who listens to the show knows. And it's true if you look at the fact sheet, Afghanistan Opium Survey 2009 net opium cultivation in 2009 was 123,000 hectares

31:28 How many acres in a hectare? I used to know that number but something like double or something like that. Just Google that. Yeah, I'll Google it up. Okay, so now the net opium cultivation in 2010 How much do you think that is? I mean, you know, considering that we're there, we're burning the poppy fields. That should be zero. It's 123,000. No change. Literally zero percent change. It has a little column. Zero percent change. But that's the way, hold on a second, that makes no sense. We're burning these fields. No we're not. No, no, no, no, no. Oh no. Oh no we are, I've seen pictures. And that number of poppy free provinces in 2009 was 20. Poppy free provinces. How many provinces they have? Like a 2,000 provinces? So 20 of them in 2009 were poppy free. How many were poppy free in 2010 do you think John? Probably the same number the way you handed it. Yeah 20, no change. It actually says no change. Number of provinces affected by opium cultivation

32:30 14 in 2009 and in 2010, 14. That's correct. Now the eradication. So this is the, I think Monsanto is probably in there screwing with everybody because they've got to get some kind of, you know, they've got to propagate their they're genetically modified poppies in 2009 it just says 5351 I don't know what that number means and it was half in 2010 by the way hectares 2.4 acres not 2 I was just rounded up to 2. good enough number of households involved in opium cultivation in 2009 was 245,200 Afghani households involved in opium cultivation. 2010

33:14 248,700. I mean they've counted the door. They've got a census. I'm telling you. They've got a census. Is the man of the house here? Yes, I'm the man of the house. Are you involved in any way in opium cultivation? Yeah, the whole neighborhood is. Okay, thank you. Bye. Can we chalk you up? Can we put your number down? Can we put you down for a subscription? Ed McMahon's gonna drive by. Oh no, I'm sorry, he's dead. Anyway, so then there's a video on the site and this is the funniest thing It's the the head of this of the United Nations Office of drugs and crimes are Russian Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Russian guy is mint

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

UNODC Video Blooper, Yuri Fedotov and Puppet Politics

Adam Curry highlights an unedited video from the UNODC website featuring Executive Director Yuri Fedotov. The footage includes a blooper where Fedotov asks to restart his speech from a specific paragraph after a teleprompter error. The hosts use this as evidence that high-ranking international officials are "puppets" who simply read scripted messages.

yuri fedotov· unodc· blooper· teleprompter· united nations

33:57 And so this is how boneheaded these people are. Listen to what happens after 30 seconds. So he's going to do a speech where he's introducing this report, which of course is yada yada yada yada yada, security, terrorism, yada yada yada, right? But listen to what happens after 30 seconds. The summary report of 2010 Afghanistan Opium Survey underscores the linkage between opium poppy cultivation and insecurity. Most of Afghanistan's opium cultivation occurs in the thousand and western regions which are dominated by insurgency and organized criminal networks.

34:44 The lack of security in these regions compromises the rule of law and limits counter-narcotic efforts. As a result, these regions consistently show very little opium cultivation. Let's start it from... From the second paragraph. So they've uploaded the video with the blooper opening still intact? And so the guy's like, let's start it from the second paragraph, roll the prompter back, I messed that one up. And then this chick, who's an American by the way, in the background you can hear her saying, could you just do the whole thing over again? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's no problem, okay. And then listen to how he starts off. So he just started off with a regular, no in the morning, no nothing, he just started off. And now listen to what happens as he starts it off the second time. Agents constituently show very little opium cultivation. Let's start it from there.

35:40 From the second paragraph. Most of Afghanistan? Most of Afghanistan, yes. Would you mind to do it all again, Mr. Poluzhin? Yes, yes, okay, okay, okay, yes. Just leave it, it'll take a bit of time for the text to come up. They have this online? Yeah, they left this online, they left the video unedited. Nobody bothered to edit it at all. No, no, the guy is just reading Prompter. But listen, now he starts off now. This is the funniest. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Salam aleikum. What is that all about? Now all of a sudden it's salam aleikum? Huh?

36:29 I don't know. It's unbelievable. So they left this entire first minute and 10 seconds which should have been cut off, they just left it on there. Yeah and you're the only guy who probably ever watched it. Of course. That's what we do so you don't have to. You should really look at this. unodc.org. It's funny. It's really funny, this Russian guy, I mean, what happened to people who were in places of power and representation just going on and saying, hey, you know, this is messed up, here's what we gotta do. No, the guy's got a freaking script, he can't even read it, doesn't even speak English, and he's just teleprompter. These are puppets, all of them. If it ever showed how puppetized

37:14 politics is and the United Nations in particular this is it. Yeah just shut up and read stupid Russian slave. Throw out a Salam Alaikum will ya? Everybody. In the morning to you. Salam Alaikum. Yeeha! Wow, yeah, anyway, you can find that in the show notes. I'll bet you that it stays up there forever. They're not I'm sure nobody in the UNODC listens to this show. They won't even take it down ever. They're stoned as we speak Anyway poppy production Is down because of this horrible?

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

European Terror Threat, Soft Targets and Motion Picture Industry Fears

The hosts discuss recent terror warnings in Europe, including the evacuation of the Eiffel Tower. They analyze media coverage from CNN's Anderson Cooper regarding "soft targets" like hotels and museums. Adam Curry claims the motion picture industry is terrified of a theater attack, though he predicts such an event will never happen because it would destroy a primary communication channel for the "slaves."

terror threat· europe· eiffel tower· anderson cooper· soft targets

37:54 Reduced yields due to a plant infection. Yeah. Yeah, I was reading about this plant infection I can't remember what it was it was in some of the one magazine or another and yet some sort of a like a Plant virus or some or some bug or something. I can't remember. Yeah. Well, it's something I'm sure Monsanto will know how to take care of Oh, yeah, they're gonna come on in So, well, let's see what I can give you. I got one for you. We're talking about security. So supposedly there was some horrible plot. Of course, nobody's going to tell us any details. And of course, we have to assume that, and I believe they're insincere. I almost get the feeling that there's an argument at the White House going on like, well, you know, Bush used to pull this crap all the time in midterm elections.

38:42 you know a scare the public and make him think that we know that that is that i think it would have us to do with the terrorists will come in but then the argument counter-argument is well i know about that because nobody thinks that we're doing a very good job on this is really just pointing it out and then you just see the debate going on so hillary came out with a a statement that is the war the wimpiest It just doesn't, she sounds more like John Kerry than anything and she hems and haws, she won't say anything. And this is the official statement on this supposed terrorist thing that took, some terrorist thing took place. Actually, if you want to play the background to this, which is the pre-Hillary Anderson Cooper take on terrorism, which is what news that was great. Anderson Cooper, AC 360, CNN Weeknights, 10 Eastern.

39:29 The new rumblings of terror threats a lot like the bloodbath that played out in Mumbai gunmen hitting soft targets like hotels and other possibly banks and economic this is the thing about all throughout Europe that they've they've averted all these horrible terror plots from al-qaeda is that what this is about yeah, and they can't tell us anything because it would I don't know what it would do. What would it do to tell us that this guy or that guy or somebody else was involved in something? I mean is there... I mean what... I don't... Yeah, no, it's like Britain, France, Germany, like the Eiffel Tower was evacuated. Right, they talk about that. Yeah, yeah, okay, good. It could explain why Paris officials have evacuated the Eiffel Tower twice in the past couple of days. A federal law enforcement official telling us, quote, the volume seems to be turned up on threat information out of Europe. Some of it apparently coming from at least one German in custody. The intelligence pointing to using people with Western passports in an attack.

40:21 Let's talk about it now with former White House Homeland Security Advisor. Okay, so this is about, there's a couple things going on here and it all does kind of play together and you're right, it is about scaring the people, the slaves. Notice they have passports. You know, this is a big thing now. This is all the others. Yeah, that's a meme. Yeah, the meme is all this and that meme came out of Dubai that Dubai a murder of the I forgot who it was but the Israelis used the Western pass right right right right right and that became the meme and now all of a sudden Oh Western passports Western passports. Oh, yeah, you know which of course gives you the you better get an RFID passport You better do this. You better do that. I mean this again

41:02 is and by the way the new passport with our fighting it which is when i have to have i got that they have that that was what the most interesting thing i thought about that password was the rfid but it's your photo in every passport ever owned there's a photo of me in the passport that is a photo that was submitted this photo is printed you know it is a passport is is printed right into the paper it's a very stiff uh... page even It's a, it's a, the whole page is printed, in other words that page is printed with your picture embedded in the print job. Yeah. So I thought that was unique. Alright, let's continue with Anderson Vanderbilt.

41:48 Well, interesting, Anderson, we see from reports now and talking to intelligence and law enforcement officials, they have an individual in custody, we think in Afghanistan, who we are told is providing really important information. They take that information, they share it with their Western European allies like Germany, like France. And I was told by one senior official that they've gotten very good cooperation. But the pieces begin to fit, and that's what makes this different. That's why you see the French reacting and closing or evacuating the Eiffel Tower. They're looking now for keys, and they're particularly focused on these soft targets, Anderson. One person said to me, you know what, we've had a lot of success across two administrations of

42:30 hardening this sort of government targets and the big ones and so now it really points to the vulnerability of soft targets, resorts, banks, museums, places where large groups of people will congregate and you can have mass casualties and real chaos by one individual. You don't need a whole team anymore. You know what's interesting, John? I had this very conversation. The motion picture industry and the dramatic television industry in Hollywood is very, very, very worried what would happen to the business, and I'll give you my answer in a moment, if a terrorist decides to blow up a movie theater. And when I heard this I said, don't make me laugh. I said, it'll never happen. They'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever blow up their main means of communicating with the slaves.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Intelligence Operations and Al-Qaeda Rhetoric

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a statement regarding intelligence reports of terrorist threats, refusing to comment on specifics to protect ongoing operations. The hosts criticize her delivery and the repetitive use of terms like "Al-Qaeda" and "affiliated networks," arguing that the administration uses simplified language to manage public perception.

hillary clinton· al-qaeda· intelligence· terrorism· state department

43:25 They're never gonna do that. There never will be a movie theater blown to bits with people in it. Ever. However, we'll probably go through naked body scanners just to make sure. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good prediction. Yeah, just wait. I mean you can wait for it not to happen. It will never take place. Ever. It's just not gonna happen. Well, I mean this whole thing if you listen to her talking, this national security expert, she's not saying Jack. It's all supposition and bullcrap. I mean, if somebody's been fed, Hillary has a harder time doing it. Although she does her job and she does it as well as she can, but she's worse. Listen to the Hillary commentary on what happened, on the kind of thing that's going through her office. With regard to the intelligence reports of threats.

44:15 Uh, uh, you're gonna get a lot of uhs. Uh, because, uh, well, you know, I have to hand it to her. She does this all without a teleprompter. She's good. That's why she'll be the next president of the United States. Uh, we are not going to comment on specific intelligence. No. Why not? Shut up, slave! It's none of your business, slave! Slave, shut up, slave! as doing so threatens to undermine intelligence operations that are critical in protecting the United States and our allies. As we have repeatedly said, we know that Al-Qaeda and its network of terrorists wishes to attack both European and U.S. targets. I get so tired of this.

45:00 I get so tired of this network, link to, affiliated, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda. Please. You know, Hillary when she speaks, she sounds like she's talking to a two-year-old. She says every word distinctly. Yes, because she knows that most people are severely under educated and only understand words like terror, Al-Qaeda, link to terrorism network because otherwise they don't understand it idiots targets we continue to work very closely with our European allies on the threat from international terrorism terrorism terrorism including the role that al-qaeda continue to play

45:55 And information is routinely shared between the U.S. and our key partners in order to disrupt terrorist plotting, identify and take action against potential operatives, strengthen our defenses against potential threats. This is, as you might very well conclude, one of the principal objectives and certainly one of the most time-consuming efforts that any of us in this administration are engaged in. Oh, so time-consuming, protecting you with shut up and leave me alone, I'm protecting you. I'm so tired of protecting you. On an hourly basis.

46:39 And I want Americans to know how focused we all are in the government and how committed we are not only in protecting our own country but in protecting our friends and allies. Yes, we're protecting you. That's all for your own protection. Well, a couple things I'd like to say regarding that, John. I gotta do my Hillary Clinton. So now the Obama administration is calling for more power over the interwebs. Oh yeah. As reported by the New York Times, officials want Congress to require all services that enable communications including encrypted email transmitters.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

National SAR Initiative, Suspicious Activity Reporting and Internet Surveillance

The Obama administration is reportedly seeking expanded powers to wiretap encrypted communications on platforms like Skype and BlackBerry. Simultaneously, the National Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) Initiative is encouraging citizens to report "suspicious" behavior to law enforcement. The hosts compare these programs to the "block Nazi" systems of communist regimes.

sar initiative· surveillance· wiretap· nsi· suspicious activity

45:55 And information is routinely shared between the U.S. and our key partners in order to disrupt terrorist plotting, identify and take action against potential operatives, strengthen our defenses against potential threats. This is, as you might very well conclude, one of the principal objectives and certainly one of the most time-consuming efforts that any of us in this administration are engaged in. Oh, so time-consuming, protecting you with shut up and leave me alone, I'm protecting you. I'm so tired of protecting you. On an hourly basis.

46:39 And I want Americans to know how focused we all are in the government and how committed we are not only in protecting our own country but in protecting our friends and allies. Yes, we're protecting you. That's all for your own protection. Well, a couple things I'd like to say regarding that, John. I gotta do my Hillary Clinton. So now the Obama administration is calling for more power over the interwebs. Oh yeah. As reported by the New York Times, officials want Congress to require all services that enable communications including encrypted email transmitters.

47:26 Like Blackberry, social networking websites like Facebook and software that allows direct peer-to-peer messaging like Skype to be technically capable of complying if served with a wiretap order. The mandate would include being able to intercept and unscramble encrypted messages. Oh, but it gets much better. as we now have the block Nazis here in America. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, please go to nsi.ncirc.gov, the National SAR Initiative. Have you heard of this initiative, John? You know, I think not. The nationwide SAR initiative, SAR stands for Suspicious Activity Reporting Initiative. You know, before you go on with this, I want to remind people of, well, people my age in particular, raised around the Cuban Missile Crisis.

48:19 and uh... we were you know largely uh... it was hammered into us basically that uh... the cubans were terrible terrible terrible there are actually two things i remember from the fifth grade two messages The Cubans were terrible, terrible, terrible people because they would have people turn each other in to the apparatchiks in the Communist Party. They would turn each other in. They were encouraged. Oh my god, I can't believe they would do that. They were like block Nazis. They were encouraged to turn each other in. And then, by the way, we also got a lecture, another standard stock lecture that was given to all us kids. is that Africa, many of the countries in Africa are terrible, terrible, terrible places because they were, and especially South Africa, that's the worst place in the world because they required their citizens to carry ID all the time. Oh no! Oh no! Oh no! They had to carry ID in their own country. That's, what an outrage! Can you imagine that? It's an outrage. That would never happen here.

49:16 Do you know what you can't... Just to remind people out there what our old ethos used to be, which is it's not cool to turn in your friends because you're suspicious or you just want to get them. And we also know that most of the time when this kind of thing happens, is just that you have a grudge against your neighbor, so you trump up something and then you get him in trouble. Ha! What a gag. What a great gag. I got him. So, on the homepage of this fantastic site, whether a plan for a terrorist attack is homegrown or originates overseas, important knowledge that may forewarn of a future attack may be derived from information gathered by state, local, and tribal government personnel in the course of routine law enforcement and other activities. That's right. That's right. We want to share the information and we want to report suspicious activity. You're suspicious. This is a great site.

50:11 Okay what's the web address again? It's nsi.ncirc.gov. And um... See every time we do this show it's like depressing. Yeah, New York Times had an interesting op- Nationwide SAR initiative. This site, another eight million dollar site. Oh yeah, for sure and we didn't build it. Meanwhile the New York Times wrote and ran an op-ed, How to Spot a Terrorist.

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

New York Times Op-Ed, How to Spot a Terrorist

An op-ed in the New York Times by John Farmer Jr. discusses the difficulty of identifying terrorists based on legal activities, such as buying large quantities of acetone or taking photographs of federal buildings. The hosts mock the premise, suggesting that the definition of a "terrorist" is being expanded to include anyone who values privacy or civil liberties.

new york times· john farmer jr· terrorism· civil liberties· profiling

50:47 He drives a Saab convertible. Is that right? He carries around an iPhone app with the Constitution on it. He does not have a California state driver's license, nor does he carry any other form of ID. How to spot a terrorist. Where are you getting this? This is the New York Times, written by John Farmer Jr., who I have no idea who that is, but it's an op-ed. Newark, New Jersey, to Dateline. A young man walks into a Home Depot and buys a large quantity of acetone. Later, a young man walks into a beauty supply store and buys hydrogen peroxide. Still later, a young man is observed parked outside a nondescript federal building in a rented van taking photographs. No crime has been committed, but should any of these activities be reported to and evaluated by law enforcement officials?

51:38 Well, if they reported the government may infringe on privacy and civil liberties. If they are not, we might not know until it's too late! We might miss the next Timothy McVeigh! It's unbelievable! By the way, I have lots of documentation on the Oklahoma City bombing which leads me to believe that may have been Also a false flag attack. There's a lot of weird stuff with that, but it's so old No one gives a crap so old nobody cares. We have to look for new stuff Yeah, no and that's getting crazy that stuff, but since you brought this up. Where is this all leading? I think I may have a clip here that kind of gives it away. There is a There was a bunch. I hope I have it. Let's see Here's in Michigan did you do? Shit oh there it is okay

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Bob Woodward, Obama's Wars and Intelligence Access

Bob Woodward's new book, "Obama's Wars," details the administration's decision-making regarding the war in Afghanistan. Adam Curry questions Woodward's extraordinary access to high-level officials and classified documents, as well as the rapid publishing timeline. The book is based on over 100 interviews and thousands of pages of meeting notes and memos.

bob woodward· obama's wars· afghanistan· intelligence· publishing

52:33 Woodward our CIA guy I saw this and so I tell you something I've already read the first 200 pages of the book okay I was the book is called Obama's Wars it's a new book that that somebody wrote can I just say something before this is a setup to this because I just want you to So I bought this as an iBook, right? Because it's not even in stores. I think it comes out today in bookstores. And if you look at this, he had access... I'm just going back to the beginning of the book here. I want you to... the people that he interviewed for this book, okay? Now you tell me that this guy isn't a spook.

53:22 So, it's like 15 pages, but the cast of characters, the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, Robert Gibbs, from the National Security Council, James L. Jones, the Deputy National Security Advisor Donilon, Senior Advisor and Coordinator for Afghanistan, that would be Lute, National Security Council Chief of Staff, Assistant to the President for Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, National Security Advisor to the Vice President, then Department of State, he spoke with Hillary Clinton, Special Representative Holbrooke, I mean he spoke to everybody!

54:00 even in his intro in the book he's saying well you know I basically I even interviewed some people as soon as two hours after something went down. This guy's a reporter! What kind of access does he have? How do you get that access? This is the Ministry of Truth on my iPhone for 17 bucks. And the other thing is that not only does he have the access, but he gets these books out in a time frame which is not... nobody in the publishing industry does. His interview with Barack Obama was done in July of this year. It is now September, it's almost October. The book is out! The books usually take a... it takes a nine month process to get a book done.

54:42 and then to get it shipped. So he's on a 60 day leash, I don't know, it's ridiculous. Yeah, and it's a beautiful book, hardcover. Yeah, that's real easy. So anyway, right, and he cranks these books out like there's no tomorrow, which makes you wonder, you know, all he's doing is writing books, and he seems dim-witted. Yeah, right. He's slow talking, and you know, I can't imagine, but anyway, whatever, we don't care. The guy is obviously when he speaks you have to listen because somebody is giving him a message to tell us. Well it's the two people who wrote the book with him, this 25 year old chick and this other guy. I started to look him up. Hold on let me just give you the name. Because he starts right off with a note from the author.

55:38 And, hold on, I'm sorry. A note to readers. The core of this book comes from the written record, National Security Council meeting notes, personal notes, memos, chronologies, letters, PowerPoint slides, emails, reports, government cables, calendars, transcripts, diaries, and maps. It doesn't even say emails. Information in the book was supplied by more than 100 people involved in the Afghanistan war and national security during the first 18 months of President Barack Obama's administration. Interviews were conducted on background, meaning the information could be used but the sources would not be identified by name.

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Cabinet Reshuffle Rumors, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden

The hosts discuss rumors of a potential swap between Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, where Clinton would become Vice President and Biden would move to the State Department. Adam Curry dismisses this theory, asserting that Clinton would never play "second fiddle" to Obama and is instead positioning herself for a future presidential run.

hillary clinton· joe biden· rahm emanuel· cabinet· vice president

56:16 uh... most allow me to record the interviews which they were transcribed for several sources the combined interview transcripts from more than three hundred pages bloody bloody bloody by it's but i didn't know anyway you got a rationale for whatever yet but you got a little sky up who is who uh... so play let's play some of these clips so we can get a couple of our messages that you know that was a response to be hearing and so you know what's going what's gonna happen right so we know it's gonna happen because this is the you know come right from the horse's mouth as it were uh... so that's who's gonna be the next secretary defense will use all the show but i don't think a lot of people realize that this is this is a little different than uh... than our theory because our theory is hillary clinton will run to brock obama's going to say i want to be with the kids and tired and getting out and hillary will run and win and he had a little different theory although not far from it not far fetched but the ed is one by the way that the i'd i don't know why this is

57:11 But the right-wingers and some of the left-wing talk talkers have got a third theory Which is completely nuts, but it's getting some traction Justin Bieber Justin Bieber is going to be secretary of state the secretary of defense the traction and it goes like this to keep everybody from possibly, anybody from possibly beating Obama. They're going to swap Hillary, let her be the vice president and Biden will be secretary of state. Which I don't believe. Secretary of defense, I think. No, no, no, no, no. Secretary of state, right? I'm sorry. No, defense is... What was the big... This defense is different. Yeah. Right. Biden would be secretary of state, which by the way, Biden is such a

57:52 Such a douchebag, he'll screw everyone will hate us more than we already do. That model is bull crap. That's total bull crap. And by the way, Hillary will never be second fiddle to Barack. No way. She's running. She's running all the way. But the Secretary of Defense, perfect. I think this is a big message. The guy's been on all the talk shows, makes a lot of sense. I think that this is absolutely going to happen. We ready? hit it.

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Colin Powell, Secretary of Defense Rumors and Iraq War Legacy

Bob Woodward suggests that Colin Powell could be a candidate to replace Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense. The hosts criticize the media's short memory regarding Powell's role in the lead-up to the Iraq War and his presentation of false intelligence to the United Nations. They speculate that the rumor might be a "salvo" to force Obama's hand in choosing a military-aligned successor.

colin powell· robert gates· secretary of defense· bob woodward· iraq war

58:39 And as he's learned, he's not commander in chief of the economy. But he is commander in chief of the war in Afghanistan. Gates is leaving. Who would you call in? By the way, when did Gates announce he's leaving and what is he going to do? I don't know when the announcement was made but all week everybody's talked about it as a done deal. Because we know Rahm Emanuel is leaving, we know David Axelrod is leaving, we know all these people are bailing out. Gates leaving... Well I'm gonna play the rest of this, I'm gonna Google this in the meantime. To take Gates' place, this is the key player. Colin Powell.

59:21 And if you think about it, Powell served in Vietnam, is a second lieutenant. Yes. Seen bad wars, was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs during the first Gulf War, saw Iraq. WMD screw up and how intelligence can mislead you and so forth. He's in his early 70s, but there is the person who could come in and say this is how we're gonna do it. This is the strategy. When Powell speaks, there's no kind of wobble. During the first Gulf War he got up there and gave the- He got up there and he lied about weapons of mass destruction. He held up the yellow cake. Lie, lie, lie, lie, liar, liar. Liar is what he is. At briefing and said, this is Saddam Hussein's army. What we're going to do, we're going to kill it.

1:00:18 And of course they killed a lot of it and we got out of that war very quickly. As a loyal soldier, do you think he'd be inclined to take it? I think he would hate it in the idea that anyone is on national television suggesting that I'll get a call tomorrow say you know I'd he loves his life but commander in chief... Wait a minute hold on a second stop he's going to get a call tomorrow? Yeah tomorrow. Didn't you know? What is he what is Powell got him on the speed dial? Of course. Hey, Woodward. Yeah. Hey man. They're busting me. I was negotiating here. I'm getting my package together. What are you talking about? So these guys are like, I mean, so Woodward is so connected. Yeah, he knows everything. He knows everything. He has everybody on the phone. You can call him up directly. So take this, so hold on a second. Knowing that the CIA hates Obama, is it possible that this was a spoiler meant to disrupt that plan?

1:01:18 I don't think it would work though. That wouldn't spoil anything. I mean, unless it was something they were working on and it could not be, and maybe Powell would be upset and wouldn't do it because of being outed. I don't know. It's possible. I don't know who, they're going to have to find somebody to put in that job. They want a CIA guy in there, Powell would be ideal. Maybe this wasn't a spoiler, but the idea was to put this into the public's consciousness so people start promoting it and forcing Obama to take another CIA related guy which was Gates was it was the director of the CIA for a while. And he was he was the Secretary of Defense during the Bush administration the guy and you know how is a Bush guy and so in there's a CIA connection and just push him in and this is this would do it this is a salvo to put this in the public consciousness so Obama would have to pay attention to it because maybe he's trying to pick some professor or something to do the job.

1:02:11 Who knows? This is a man, Powell, who served 35 years in the military and saluted presidents or superior officers down the line. Obama calls him in and said, I need you. You're the one to do this. You were good. And, you know, maybe Powell could figure out a way and there would be some good do's where we kill the people who need to be killed and we also shorten the war. This is so unbelievable. We in Gitmo Nation, we are such short-term memory dickhead slaves that we cannot connect Colin Powell to the guy who got us into Iraq under false pretenses of weapons of mass destruction testifying and lying before Congress about... United Nations. United Nations. Yeah.

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Pakistan Retribution Plan, Times Square Bomber and CIA Tradecraft

Bob Woodward revealed a secret U.S. "retribution plan" for Pakistan in the event of a terrorist attack on American soil linked to the country. The plan was reportedly communicated to President Zardari following the Times Square bombing attempt. The hosts argue that the public is being conditioned to view Pakistan as the primary threat to justify future military or intelligence actions.

pakistan· times square bomber· cia· retribution· zardari

1:03:05 And we can't connect that and and Larry King Larry King is like a ridiculous Democrat. So, play the Woodward on Larry King clip and see if this is the one I'm looking for. This can come out okay. Afghanistan, Pakistan. Okay, here it is. Stop, stop. Stop. I want to set this one up. There's one, I got three clips. There's one which is the long boring Biden bullshit story which is completely, I believe, fabricated. But this is the one where, this is another meme, another bomb. This is as good as the Colin Powell bomb.

1:03:44 uh... first there's the setup with a certain scratch is the set of larry as and what about our view this afghanistan thing how we gonna get what's gonna happen in and and and uh... woodward tells us this very inside story he uses a couple of jargon terms he uses a intelligence a agency term in any uses some other mean that uh... You'll you'll be when you hear it is all about what what Biden said to the president. No. No, that's the but that's the Bullshit, this is the one I think is more interesting. Okay, play this can come out. Okay? Afghanistan yeah, man, don't worry. We're just gonna kill everybody and you know, it's it's it's a it's the hardest case and there is

1:04:26 At the time last spring where Obama sends General Jones as National Security Advisor and the CIA Director of Leon Panetta to Pakistan, this after the Times Square bomber, it almost went off, could have killed hundreds, thousands of people and they read the riot act to the Pakistani leadership including the President Sardari and say look, this is look in our opinion was a successful attack because Pakistani intelligence US intelligence didn't figure out that it was going to happen and then they read what what is called this is fascinating CIA tradecraft what's called the link chart to Zardari connecting

1:05:11 the bomber to people in Pakistan, these phone calls, these relationships, this money transfer and so forth. And they tell Sardari if there's an attack in the United States post-marked Pakistan, there are all these groups that are planning attacks if that happens all bets are off and Things will happen the president will have to do things that you're not going to like and they have a secret plan they do to a retribution plan, so it's the stakes in the Uncertainty here couldn't be higher Bob. So so we're gonna fuck you up boy. Oh

1:05:53 That's basically what that is. So okay, so we can expect another terror attack and this is going to be from Pakistan because clearly that's the country we really need. It's the most important geographically located between China and the rest of the world. And we got to get those nukes. We got to get them nukes, yeah. And the Times Square bomber is successful. Totally by the way the guy had shit that wouldn't even burn the but it's successful successful mission. Yeah mission accomplished He did it successful because we always couldn't figure it out But meanwhile we had a link chart. You had a link chart? Like LinkedIn? CIA tradecraft. That's right, we've got that shit man. We got powerpoints, we got mind maps, we got all kinds of high tech stuff. So the bonehead in the Times Square, he's a fall guy or a stooge or a setup man or who knows what. And he's, you know, we don't know what happened to him of course. No of course we don't, we don't even know what happened to the underwear bomber.

1:06:52 We don't know anything. We don't know what ever happened to him. Yeah, how come no one's following up on that? Huh? Huh? Huh? Forget about it. And so now we're gonna, now we're just, this is just the beginning. We're gonna start to hear more and more negative things about Pakistan and how they're behind it all. Yep. And it's always been Pakistan. That's why, you know, that's why we have 30,000 Kaseem Black Ops in there. Yeah. Yeah, that's the joke of it. It's always been Pakistan. and but now it's you have to shift the public consciousness a little bit yeah we have to start you know pakistan is bad

1:07:28 and hey you know what was round up some pakistanis surround them up a throwman internment camp briefing i think is richard did that's possible can happen any minute yet to the pakistanis by the way the big troublemakers in england i think you're gonna see a two or three step process here one is gonna send that is gonna happen in england because we focused on all this so this terrorism is gonna happen in europe so it's gonna be some pakistani action in europe first now and then the and the bazaar and the banks are already so uh... What's the word? Uh, racist! You know, they always talk about Pockys. Pockys, yeah, fuck it, Pockys. Pocky this, Pocky that. They hate him. They hate him. The British guy, the regular guy on the street, hates the Pockys. And so it's, you're right, I think you're right. Total setup. Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening. How do we stop it, John?

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Donation Segment, Value for Value and Listener Shout-outs

The hosts thank individual donors for their contributions, highlighting the "value for value" funding model. They read notes from listeners in Norway, Palm Beach, and Minnesota, and perform a "de-douching" ritual for a donor whose job was outsourced. The segment emphasizes that the show is 100% user-supported without traditional advertising.

donations· value for value· norway· palm beach· st. paul

1:08:15 Well, our show helps I think. Maybe a little bit. As long as it's supported. I can see Hillary Clinton going, you know they have a point. I should... You know, luckily the show is nutty enough that she won't listen to it. But we have some, we like to give some donors some call outs here because this is the time of the show. We want to thank people for donating to the show. NoagendaShow.com. Click on the donation button. This is a 500% user supported show by the way. We don't have any other income to keep the show going except what you give us. And we appreciate it. And we appreciate the $5 subscriptions and the $33 subscriptions and everything in between. The small donations, $10, $20, $30, whatever you can afford.

1:08:54 And we do have a few one-time donations that came in this week, and let's start by crediting them. Island 7 in Branson, Missouri, which sounds like a nightclub. Somebody will know what that is. $130. Ed Chavez in New York City, 6610. He's about a third of the way to knighthood and thinks it's a great show. He translated a book called Toyota Legends, which you should try to check out. He likes to... It forecasts the troubles they had late last year. That's interesting. Yeah, and this guy, I corresponded with him. He is a Japanese to English translator.

1:09:34 Which could come in very handy. I told him to keep an eye out in the Japanese press. Yeah, please do please do. Our northernmost listener Snorre Steen. It's either Schnorr or Snorre or Snorre. Number it's Norway. I would say Snorre. I would say Snorre Steen. Snorre Steen. Snorre Steen. Snorre Steen. Longa Beren. I'll never get that. Longyearbyen. Your northernmost listener... at our ninety seventy two and slow barred that's the need to have heard i guess it's not i don't know what that means not to do latitude thank you for posting the picture from the barrio base in april whatever that might have been a nice to speak to riddles it's okay we appreciate a lot of the norwegians they had all the money yeah and and and they're not in the e u this is a and they're gonna try to small group we've predicted that they're going to try to screw the norwegians for not joining

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1:11:16 Positive vibes, man. Oh enjoy Finlay son He also says, oh enjoy the hookers and blow. Thanks to Adam about the Coronado Hotel review. It saved my friends thousands of lost dollars as they were going to revisit it from years past and learn the service and surrounding area. Not what it used to be. See, there you go. We saved someone thousands of dollars from going to that hotel. Yeah, that's right. 5511. Stuart Finlayson in the UK. Hi Adam and John. I'd like this donation to be my wife's name. Well, there you go. His birthday's Thursday the 30th. Yeah, we got her lined up. We have her listed. Okay, hopefully you'll get a chance to read this on Thursday's show, but if not, please read it soon and we'll get a regular listener's five dollars. If she can get a kick out of it, her name is Sharon. Tell her that our two boys and I love her very much. Hope she has a great day because it's, because it's over, because after it's over she'll have to start performing her... Minute woman duties. Minute woman duties. That's right. You know what it is. You know what those duties are when you're a minute babe.

1:12:17 Yep, Dorothy, so she'll get a birthday call in a minute. Dorothy Doering, uh, double nickels on a dime, St. Paul, Minnesota. She gives us money every so often. And Matthew Shoyer in Winthrop, Minnesota. $55, he's got an email, I should go find it and read it. Yeah, I'll do that in a second. Good job. Then we got our regular DUI-help.com Barry Wilson and finally Terrence J Randall a new donor from Garden City, New York. $50. Thank you very much. Finn Laysen congratulates his wife, it is her birthday today and of course she now becomes a Noah Jen The Minute Woman. Uh, so enjoy your birthday cause after today, it's all service baby! It's your birthday, yeah! Something like that. Something like that. Okay... We have two knighthoods, unless you have something else I'd like to... Well I was just trying to find this Shor- Shor-yer's e-mail, I can't seem to get it. Let me, uh...

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Sir Peter Martine and Sir Fred Lust

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak officially knight Peter Martine and Fred Lust for their significant financial contributions to the show. The ceremony includes the bestowing of titles and the mention of upcoming "Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" rings. The hosts note that they now have approximately 100 knights in their community.

knighthood· peter martine· fred lust· no agenda roundtable· rings

1:13:29 We would like Peter Martine to step forward please and John if you don't mind if you could just... There you go. Yeah, there you go. Let me just grab mine for a second. Perfect. Peter Martine, wow, you really came through for the show. We highly appreciate it. Of course $1,000 earns you the title of Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. So kneel before me, slave! Peter Martine, we hereby pronounce thee Sir Peter Martine, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please, come on over. Enjoy your hookers and blow. Very, very nice. And we'd like Fred Lust to step forward. By the way, these knighthoods do come with an official No Agenda, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable ring. And they are in the works, John. Have we transferred the money?

1:14:25 I know because I didn't hear back from Paul, but I will, I'm sure shortly. I think they're gonna be, you know, Paul's been doing these coins, I think he's been chewing up his time. Yeah, but I've seen them. I know what they look like, so... They look great. They look fantastic. Okay, let's just grab our swords here. Fred Lust! We hereby pronounce thee Sir Fred Lust, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Oops, sorry. Hit him three times. Oh, that doesn't happen often. He's a special knight now. Enjoy our Chardonnay and Rent Boys. Depending on your orientation, we have hookers and blow. So two new knights, and how many knights do we have now, John? We must have 30 knights? We have about 100. What? 100 knights? I'm glad we saved the money for those rings. Yeah, that account has not been touched. Good. See, we've done good.

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Open Source Model and Google Adsense Issues

The hosts discuss the show's open-source art generation and the various listener-made products like dice and coins. Adam Curry shares his frustration with Google AdSense after being kicked off the platform for "suspicious activity," resulting in a loss of income. He also thanks a producer for creating an Android version of his "Big App Show" for free.

no agenda art· google adsense· open source· big app show· android

1:15:19 We've done very good. A quick note, Sir Randy Asher says, please let the producers know I apologize for the delay in the boarding passes. This is the special boarding pass for the mothership, $33.33 subscription. They will be done by the 10-10-10 show, 242 seems the most logical deadline, especially since the mothership is coming on October 13th and the good karma continues with every donation. I want to remind people we have a couple of sites for art. We source our art from the good artists that listen to the show. And we have some artists that are, I mean good in terms of their character, in terms of their art, many of them are fantastic.

1:16:04 But we've had a fall off, people seem to have lost interest because a lot of people have done art and we never picked up on their particular piece. Not ever, but if you get three submissions we choose the best one, but unfortunately then people lose interest and then we've had no art coming in for the past three shows. Yeah, so no agenda art generator. dot info is where you can do it if you don't want to be actually design anything completely and then no agenda art dot com if you want to do a stink piece from scratch you can put that over there uh... there are generators like you take a funny picture you put it in the run the generators and it puts another for you but yet the other would have been good to do genuine from scratch art is is uh...

1:16:46 We would kind of give it a few extra points if you're going to do it that way. Either way. And I just want to say that the model that we have chosen for this program is very, very exciting because we are completely open source. You probably heard at the top of the show people make golf balls, t-shirts, dice. By the way, the No Agenda dice I think are almost all sold out, noagendadice.com. uh... the the coins mean this is it's great because we actually keep other people employed we receive a portion of the money and the donations themselves is just a pure value for value system and really works and in case in point like you know what happened to me john with the big app show with my uh... my iphone app what that google kick me out of uh... out of adsense i might point out two days before the end of the month you had like thirteen hundred dollars

1:17:36 And they said, oh, suspicious activity, this can't be right. Because people are like tapping on the ads, looking at the freaking ads. And they kick me out. You see, I can't make money with ads. Big internet, screw them. Bastards. What? Yeah, oh yeah. And then you have to fill out a form. Slave, shut up slave. But they take your money. It's like for a month. A month's worth of ads. Well, we're going to give that back to the advertiser, so they say. And they just disable the account. Really? Yeah. And then you have to fill out a form and of course you hear nothing back. Oh no, they don't have anybody working there. No, of course not. It's just the money machine. And they have like some profile you don't match it so you're kicked off. Yeah, but I don't know what to do now. Anyway, so I'm considering... Just bitch and moan. That's the best thing to do. Just complain bitterly. I'm considering... Send an email to Sergey. Fuck him.

1:18:38 i'm considering going so if you're going to help us out uh... says and now apparently is lost an income stream yeah uh... give us uh... some uh... some attention at no agenda show dot com to work dot org slash n a take you right to the donation pages used to be something new on there once a while and then uh... also uh... channeled of work dot com slash n a and we appreciate it would prevent one i think everybody who's helped us out so far So yes, and and I also want to do a special to the producers a special. Thank you to producer Chris Galinda who? Single-handedly within about like two weeks created an Android version of the big app show which I'll be launching tomorrow Obviously a talented person and no charge like no no this is value for value man. You guys do a great show I'm gonna just want to help you out. It's easy for me But yeah, but cash of course is king and

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

UFO Incursions at Nuclear Sites, Retired Military Testimony

A press conference featuring retired Air Force personnel detailed ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear weapon sites, claiming that unidentified craft have previously disabled missile launch codes. While Dvorak remains skeptical, Curry notes that he reported on these incidents years ago and believes the witnesses are telling the truth about these "silent" craft.

ufo· nuclear missiles· robert hastings· air force· declassified

1:19:34 It's what we use to pay bills and that's pretty much all we do. John, I mean you still write some columns right? But that's about it. Yeah, no, we're dying on the vine here. Yeah, kind of. Anyway, so what I found rather interesting and I even heard you on your Tech 5 show saying, oh brother, we're gonna have to be talking about this on no agenda. A nice way to plug the show, actually. Well, I gave the URL but maybe people that would heard that report, I'm surprised you listened to the show. I listened to all your shows. But since you did, you caught me off guard because I was gonna play dumb Because I know what you're going to bring up. I knew we were going to have to talk about it, which is apparently... I don't even know what the point of this story is. Okay, so let me break it down for you. First of all, this is the guy who has written a book.

1:20:22 about what that explains this is the the add this is this is a book promotion but what what interest me is I get and this must be new listeners slash producers because they held a press conference for the book and had all these retired Air Force personnel primarily and all these guys were in charge of the missile silos in various periods throughout their career and I guess there were six or seven of them and they say well yeah you know what happened is the UFOs came down they'd activate our actual launch codes would get activated and then they'd be deactivated and the UFOs have disabled all of our nukes and that was the the press conference and I'm going like

1:21:07 Hello, I did this story two years ago. I said that this had happened. Yeah, but you left a book part out. Well, I didn't write the book. That's what I how stupid am I? You left you didn't write the book. You should have wrote a book. So let's just listen to a little bit from this press conference because you only had the the CNET story, which is like please, it's interesting to listen to what these guys have to say. Actually the guy who wrote the book let him do a little preamble. Declassified US government documents and witness testimony. So he does have the real documents and this is what I had two years ago. I said this happened

1:21:43 And I can explain why. I won't play too much of this, I won't bore you. I mean, I mean, God, we can always listen to more SUV special victims unit crap if you want. Play some OI-5-0. From former or retired US military personnel, confirm beyond any doubt the reality of ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites. When I say UFO, the witnesses have described these crafts as disc-shaped or cylindrical shaped or spherical. These objects are capable of both hovering and high velocity flight, usually completely silently. Yay! Silent but deadly.

1:22:27 Over the past 37 years, I have personally located and interviewed more than 120 of these former or retired military personnel. all of whom report UFO incidents at one or more of the following locations. Now John, why are you so, oh brother, skeptical about this when you have actual retired personnel who are willing to stake their reputation on saying these things? And there's government documents to back this up. Why are you skeptical about this? I don't know these people. nuclear missile sites. Yeah, you drink a lot of tea with Hillary. Nuclear weapons storage areas and nuclear weapons test sites. Let me just shuttle ahead to listen to one of these guys. Can you just play the clip? I believe, these gentlemen believe, that this planet is being visited by beings from another world who, for whatever reason, have taken an interest in the nuclear arms race which began at the end of World War II.

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Time Travelers Theory, Nuclear Disarmament and Pakistan Pipelines

Adam Curry proposes a theory that UFOs are actually time travelers who have disabled nuclear weapons to prevent human extinction. He argues that because nukes are now ineffective, the government must use "terrorist" memes to control the population. The discussion shifts to Pakistan's strategic importance for oil pipelines connecting China to the global market.

time travelers· nuclear weapons· pakistan· oil pipelines· china

1:23:32 Regarding the missile shutdown incidents, my opinion, their opinion, is that whoever are aboard these craft are sending a signal to both Washington and Moscow, among others, that we are playing with fire. That the possession and threatened use of nuclear weapons potentially threatens the human race and the integrity of the planetary environment. Okay, so let me tell you what's going on here. So we have had civilization from other planets on our planet hundreds of thousands of years ago. There's ample evidence of this even in the United States if you dig down far enough if you go down like 8,000 feet you can find their tunnels, their coal mines, their copper mines, all kinds of amazing things that are never really reported anymore because it's just too crackpot.

1:24:27 And these were in fact time travelers who have sent us many many messages and saw the danger of... Wait a minute, you've changed your whole pitch from like aliens from other worlds to time travelers? Yeah, but they try... so when the UFO crashed in Roswell... See, you have to understand in the space-time continuum when a UFO crashes it doesn't just like come out of the sky it takes like two years to crash because they're living on a whole different time. So things play out over a very long period here in Earth years, but it's like a cut, you know, it's just like a one, all in a day's work for them. And they have disabled the nukes. None of them go off. None of them. And we've seen planes have to return back to base because the nukes were incomplete, didn't work. The nukes have totally been disabled. And I mentioned this at least two years ago on this very show.

1:25:29 I think these guys are telling the truth. Alright. And so, but that, but we still have to... That is? Well, so this is why we're not gonna scare you. with nuclear war which is what I grew up with. I grew up being very scared of nuclear war that we would have global thermonuclear war and Russia would press a button, America would press a button so that they know they can't make good on that promise. That's why the terrorism has to come into play and it's very easy they can make good on the promise. Yeah we'll just throw another underwear dude in the plane. so i was a little is this basic theory of yours with the fact that we're one of our basic tenets of the show uh... on a bonnet of level is that we're going in the pakistan to get their nukes now we're not going and i i i didn't say that you just said said it before i've said it you know i don't know if we're not going to know that no we're not going to the white so why do we care about anything going on in pakistan just for the oil pipelines yes because it's strategically extremely important to connect

1:26:32 China to the rest of the world. We have to go through Pakistan. So what you're saying is that those nukes in Pakistan... Look at these people, the people running the country are old, they still have to use some of the old memes. But what is the new meme? The new meme is the Paki at your corner store is gonna blow you up. That's the new meme. They're not talking about nukes. They're not. That's just like an old thing. That's just for the old people who vote. Oh yeah, nukes. All right. It's all about the the the packy around the corner is gonna blow you up. That's what it's about now I have okay. I have one more One more no, it's not No, I believe me. I wouldn't do any more to you this Stuxnet thing which we which we talked about we were pretty much first about this and I can I can deconstruct some of the bullshit that is being propagated in the media in this case by Bloomberg and

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Stuxnet Virus, Chertoff Group and Israel Attribution

The hosts deconstruct media reports on the Stuxnet virus, specifically a Bloomberg interview with a representative from the Chertoff Group. They criticize the "nation-state" requirement theory and the attribution of the virus to Israel. Curry argues that the sophistication of the worm is being exaggerated to justify increased government control over the internet.

stuxnet· chertoff group· israel· iran· cyber warfare

1:27:34 Bloomberg television because I do have some actual technical data which and an interesting story from two years ago which shows that this is total lie false flag bullshit just to be used to to manipulate and to get access to our emails. So here's a cyber security expert from the Chertoff group. Does that sound familiar to you, John? The Chertoff group? Yeah, Chertoff, that creepy guy that ran Homeland Security. Yeah, Michael Chertoff. And if you look at the Chertoff group's website, oh my god, there's like every Gitmo Nation specialist is a member of the Chertoff group. These are the guys that also sell the body scanners.

1:28:17 So listen to how he lies about this Stuxnet, how the info babe from Bloomberg, she's kind of hot, although she has weird breasts. But that doesn't matter because I'm just obsessed with looking at her. That's what it's about while the information streams in. how he sets us all up and then I'll deconstruct what he says. There's a report out about a new computer virus that may be aimed at destroying a bricks and mortar facility. The virus is called Stuxnet and according to the Financial Times it may be aimed at Iran's controversial nuclear facility. Joining us now is Richard Falkenrath. He is principal of the Chertoff Group and a Bloomberg contributing editor. He's also been a White House advisor on security. Richard, thanks so much for being with us this morning. First of all,

1:29:02 How does this virus work? So this virus attacks the SCADA systems for industrial facilities and that means supervisory data and control systems. What it does is it originally started with a USB drive. Someone would take an infected USB drive, stick it into a computer and then it propagates through the system. It's a worm which means it propagates by itself. So he's hitting all the buttons, right? It's a worm, it's a USB stick, it's gonna bring down the nuclear facility in Iran. It's great. It's moving through the system and it hides its tracks.

1:29:38 But Richard, does it have to be placed there? It seems like it does. We think it started with a USB drive that was physically connected to one of the machines and then it went itself through the network. How does this guy from the Chertoff group know all this? He's such an expert, how does he know? The techie people who analyze this think that... It's not engineers, it's the techie people. No. Just so you know, the techie people. Techie people? I'm just a PR douche. The techie people, no. This is one of the most sophisticated pieces of malware they've ever seen. And the reason for that is it's using stolen certificates, legitimate digital certificates that real companies use to identify themselves when they communicate. Now that is not how a digital certificate works, I'm sorry. A stolen certificate

1:30:28 I mean, what is it's not like a like a certificate of deposit. It's not like a passport or something you show. This is this is the very stolen certificates. This is the sketchy part. Yeah, that's a big lie. Stolen. And then it exploits for previously unknown vulnerabilities in the window operating system. These are called day zero vulnerabilities. What? Did you hear anything about this? About four previously unknown Day Zero exploits in the Windows operating system? No, it sounds like bullshit. The theory is among the security experts is that this took the resources of a nation state to create a piece of malware this sophisticated. Well Richard I was going to ask you about that because I'm reading the article as well. I read it and it said finance... Who do you... You can't just be like a smart techie guy to make this. Who do you have to be John? You have to be a nation state. Who do you have to be? Who could you be? Who has the best techie people in the world and who hates the Arabs?

1:31:29 Huh? Who? Those busters? That's right Iran has by far the most infections followed by India and Indonesia Followed by India, but how do we know this? How do we know they have the most infection because he is a techie guy in white? In what listen he's gonna tell you who put this great this worm together this work who created the worm It's so sophisticated. We can't figure it up. This is really smart. They're storing certificates actions out there

1:32:07 That's right. Iran has by far the most infections, followed by India and Indonesia. And it is theoretically possible that the UNESCO government did this, but in my judgment it's a very remote possibility. More likely, frankly, is Israel. Yay! There we go. Israel did it. Of course they did. They're sitting there in the desert, creating these worms. That Israel did it. It's not impossible that some group of hackers did it, but the security experts that are studying this really think this required the resources of a nation-state. for the US government to- The resources of a nation state. That is- What? to launch a piece of malware easily do it three guys could probably put four really good guys together you don't need a nation state you need a whole nation well and I'm gonna deconstruct wise bull crap in like this against industrial systems a very risky thing to do because it can't really be controlled it can't be controlled have you seen this Stuxnet on your Windows machine John it can't be controlled I can't control it rampant it's all over the

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Stuxnet Technical Discrepancies, CyberStorm 3 Exercise

Adam Curry points out technical discrepancies in the Stuxnet narrative, noting that the controllers at the Iranian facility do not match the Siemens models targeted by the virus. He suggests the entire scenario was "scripted" years ago. The hosts also discuss "CyberStorm 3," a large-scale Department of Homeland Security exercise simulating a coordinated cyber attack on vital services.

stuxnet· siemens· cyberstorm 3· homeland security· cyber warfare

1:33:08 place where is if this worm is so great how come it is not infecting everybody because it's bullshit spread beyond the place that's being targeted but I want to ask I mean do countries I mean we're talking about Iran in this context of its controversial nuclear site but is there really running its nuclear power its nuclear plan on Windows software Well yeah, the main power plant there uses Windows PCs with a Siemens provided industrial control software package and that in the diagnostics is how this virus got into it. Okay, so there's the lie. And here it is. I've done the research. The Stuxnet, according to the papers that the Chertoff Group published, is designed to target the Siemens S7-400 and S7-300 PLCs.

1:33:58 However, the controllers at the facility are the SIL44AK7 and not the S7400 and S7300. So they're using completely different controllers that are in, it's a software package, that are indeed connected to these Windows machines. Furthermore, Scott Borg, head of the US Cyber Consequences Unit in 2009, described exactly this scenario as written up in the Yennet News. And I have the article here. It's exactly this.

1:34:49 So they just took the idea and just propagated it as one big lie for what who God knows why other than yo you know so dangerous we have a nuclear meltdown because here it is published 7-7 2009 in the late 1990s a computer specialist from Israel Shin Bet internal security service hacked into the mainframe of the Pi-Gilot fuel depot north of Tel Aviv, meant to be a routine test, blah blah blah. So began a cyber warfare project with a decade on as seen by independent experts as likely the new vanguard of Israel's efforts to foil the nuclear ambitions of arch enemy Iran. And the whole scenario is written out here about how it's going to get into the controllers and even here a contaminated USB stick would be enough, said Borg.

1:35:42 They've written the script and now they're rolling it out. And they wrote it more than a year ago. State of War 2006 book by New York Times reporter James Risen recounted a short-lived plan by the CIA and his Israeli counterpart Mossad to fry power lines of an Iranian nuclear facility using a smuggled electromagnetic pulse device. I mean, these guys are just making shit up. And then they roll it out. This is... Show me one copy of Stuxnet. The only thing we haven't figured out is the name. There's gotta be a joke. You know there's some joke in there. Yeah, I always feel like there's been jokes in these scams. Huh.

1:36:22 And then on the heels of that, the United States is launching its first test of a new plan for responding to an enemy cyber blitz, including an attack aimed at vital services such as power, water and banks. It's called CyberStorm 3, a three to four day drill which starts on Tuesday. and it is by the way you know today's the day this was to be a crime to at least one prediction the biggest huge quake down in southern california yes like a seven or an eight they're talking about yet today yeah i'm really worried edits at its core the exercise is about resiliency testing the nation's ability to cope with the loss of damage to basic aspects of modern life says department of homeland security's national cyber security communications integration center in arlington expert

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Caesar and Cleopatra Movie, Historical Anachronisms

John C. Dvorak highlights several historical anachronisms in the film "Caesar and Cleopatra," based on the play by George Bernard Shaw. He notes the mention of "British oysters," "Chianti," and "filet mignon" in a setting intended to be 40-50 BC, long before those terms or products would have been known to the Romans.

caesar and cleopatra· george bernard shaw· anachronisms· chianti· oysters

1:37:14 The simulation tests the newly developed National Cyber Incidents Response Plan, a coordinated framework ordered by President Barack Obama. The test involves 11 states, 12 foreign countries, and 60 private companies. I'm sure Chertoff is a part of that. Other participants will be Austria, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Hungary, Japan, Italy, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, and Switzerland. So they're just gearing up. This is gearing up to take away everything. Shut it down. Do whatever. So be afraid, slaves. Be very afraid. So I got a funny clip if you want to lighten things up. Please do. Yeah, well. So I'm watching an old movie. It's Caesar and Cleopatra. Great movie. And so there's this one little scene in there. Now you have to remember that this scene would have taken place since it's a period piece. It's based on a play by George Bernard Shaw.

1:38:20 It was a big, big movie. And it was, this scene would have been taking place in 50 BC or so, maybe 40. Let's say 40 BC. 40 BC. And they're at a dinner table and the references to the food they're going to be eating seem a little out of place in terms of the timeline of the world. You should be listening to this. Just listen to this. See if you can spot at least two of the many flaws. What shall we serve to whet Caesar's appetite? Any oysters? Assuredly. British oysters? British oysters, of course. Oysters, then. Sea hedgehogs for me. Have we nothing solid to begin with? Field fairs with asparagus. Fat and fowls, Rufio. Have some fat and fowls. Aye, that'll do. Field fairs for me. Caesar will date a truce's wine, Sicilian, Tuscan, Macedonian, Chianti. All Greek.

1:39:15 Try the Sicilian season. Bring me my barley water. Bring me my filet mignon. But the other thing is British oysters British the word British was I don't even know it wasn't that didn't weren't the Romans in the air didn't they occupy the the Isles not in 50 BC as far as I can recall that or whatever the case is you really got most Chianti yeah Chianti I heard that too like Chianti what Chianti in 50 BC Who wrote this crap? That's just a movie

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

European Commission, Genetically Modified Crops Approval

The European Commission has approved the cultivation of various genetically modified crops, sparking a "European Citizens Initiative" to gather a million signatures in opposition. The hosts are dismissive of the initiative's chances, suggesting that unelected officials will ignore the public's concerns in favor of corporate interests like Monsanto.

european commission· gmo· monsanto· citizens initiative· agriculture

1:39:58 Hey, United States of Europe, speaking of food, the European Commission, that's the Starfleet Command, has approved the growing of genetically modified crops. So first it was... I thought we covered this before. I thought they already started this like six months ago. Well no, now they've given the approval for all kinds of crops so anything can... and they're saying well... Everything goes. Everything goes and there's a big movement against this and the slaves are trying to get a million votes to stop this. Then I'm saying good luck.

1:40:37 Yeah, really like they're gonna laugh at you now now watch your unelected slave owners Watch them laugh at you watch them laugh as they allow companies like To just come in and take over take over everything It's the European Citizens Initiative. You should rename it. European Slave Initiative. Then you'd get some media attention. It was called the Citizens Initiative? Yes. I mean that's to get them to stop. To stop it, yeah. They're trying to get a million signatures. They shouldn't have too much trouble getting the signatures but it's not going to stop anything. No, it's not going to stop a single thing.

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Obama Campaign Strategy, Madison Speech and Change Meme

President Obama has shifted his campaign strategy from small "backyard barbecues" back to large-scale university rallies. During a speech in Madison, Wisconsin, he emphasized the phrase "one more time" and warned against voter apathy. The hosts analyze the use of the word "folks" and the re-emergence of the "change" meme.

barack obama· madison· wisconsin· campaign· apathy

1:41:21 So I have I found an Obama catchphrase to change the subject. Is this one of his backyard barbecue talks? No, no, this is he's gone back on the road into the big venues because he likes to speak to the wait a minute. He was doing all these backyard barbecues. What happened? No, they found that those weren't working. No. And also the small this city thing, those little town meetings aren't working because you know you got ran into by that black woman. So these things aren't working and they also discovered that him telling the Democrats that they're a bunch of whiners and they should buck up and all the rest, that's not working. So they changed their strategy. They're going back to what Obama does best, rock concerts.

1:42:03 So it's going in front of, in this case it was 26,000 people listening to him at the University of Maryland. But it's apparent what the new catchphrase is going to be, at least the one that he re-emphasizes over and over again. So this is a new yes we can type thing? Is it on that level or is it lower scale? I'm not sure what they're going to do with it, but you can hear it, it's very obvious they're going to use this over and over again. but he's here he is at the end of one of his or during a pause break or near the end of his speech to the University of Maryland students who are all lined up and all smiling and giddy. I'm betting on your apathy, especially because a lot of you are young folks. So Madison, you've got to prove them wrong. Let's show Washington one more time. Stop, stop, stop. I take it back. This, we had to start it over. This, when he says Madison, this is Wisconsin.

1:42:53 He did the same, I think he did the same speech at the University of Maryland, maybe I'm wrong. But I already got the meme, it's one more time. No, that's, well that's one of them. There's a bunch of memes in here. The other thing by the way, he uses the word folks. Yeah, folks. And now everybody in the administration is using folks. But didn't Bush use folks? I don't know that Bush used folks the way this guy does. Yeah, Bush used folks. These are some bad folks out there. Yeah, maybe. Okay, let's start over. Yeah. This is University of Wisconsin. Especially because a lot of you are young folks. So Madison, you've got to prove them wrong. Let's show Washington one more time. Change doesn't come from the top. It doesn't come from

1:43:34 I couldn't quite catch it. What was it? Change happens because of you. Well that's true, I think that's true. Change happens because of you, because of you and I, John. We make change happen. We help people at least live their lives with the knowledge of their lack of freedom so they feel better about it. At least, you know, we help there. You know, the Ministry of Truth is out on Obama. Did you, I don't think it's been posted yet, but he, it's amazing how Rolling Stone does this. Rolling Stone, who used to interview like Kurt Cobain,

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Rolling Stone Interview, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow

In a Rolling Stone interview, President Obama criticized Fox News as "destructive." The hosts also play a clip of MSNBC's Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow celebrating an accolade from the White House Deputy Press Secretary. The hosts argue that such close ties between journalists and the administration undermine journalistic integrity.

rolling stone· barack obama· keith olbermann· rachel maddow· msnbc

1:44:21 uh... these is the obama's got a huge interview in rolling stone magazine done by a john lennon the uh... the founder of uh... of rolling stone and in it he says fox news is destructive for the country's growth a huge swipe towards the murdoch institution well that's it doesn't interesting pieces of a follow-up clip that relates to that apparently the obama administration has given a full you know uh... their approval of both olbermann and maddow and as good journalists that those two are instead of saying oh my god the white house thinks that we're just stooges for them the two of them went completely giddy complimenting each other where was it so where did the white house say that they were good

1:45:13 The assistant deputy press secretary made a comment, I can get that clip for you but it's kind of boring, about how important they were to push the Korean War. Oh no. It went on and on. Now listen to Olbermann and Maddow, which the clip is called Olbermann and Maddow blowing each other. Play that. Missed completely again. Now to discuss what the Democrats would prefer to run away from rather than run on, ladies and gentlemen, here is the invaluable Rachel Maddow. Good evening, Rachel. Invaluable? Thank you very much. Well, I'm not saying, it's not me saying that. That was the Deputy Press Secretary who said that. Well, you too are invaluable if I remember the quote correctly, Keith. Well, I wasn't going to point that out, but thank you for doing so. Well done and very subtle. Thank you, Keith.

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Nation Map, Donor Directory and Show Notes

The hosts discuss "No Agenda Nation," a map-based directory created by a producer to show the locations of donors and their businesses. They also mention a new system for submitting show notes and ideas to help organize the high volume of listener input, though they joke about the likelihood of actually using the submissions.

no agenda nation· donor map· show notes· community· directory

1:46:02 Thank you. Terrible. Invaluable. I mean these people should be ashamed of themselves. They shouldn't be proud. How can you be a journalist and then take that accolade and tout it like that? That is horrible. By the way, Rachel Maddow who walks around at the White House Christmas party as an invited guest. Wow. It's absolutely ridiculous. Before we finish, I want to point out something we've got. Eric has a thing called the noagendanation.com, which is a map showing where all of our donors are. And he wants to put together a system where the donors can actually put their... if they have a company or something they want to plug, we can put a directory together. It could all be automated. So if you're floating around, say you're a No Agenda listener and you happen to be floating around Kansas City, you can go to the No Agenda

1:46:52 nation.com and click around you find maybe there's a barbecue place you want to go check out one of the nights that might be running. That'd be great, yeah. He also wants to do this one thing, this is up to you to agree or disagree on, which is if people want to send us show notes or some of these ideas that I keep losing because people you know these things back up. Like your education special? Oh, I'm still working on that. Yeah, I know. He's got show notes at noagendanation.com as an email address that people can use if they want to. You can put that in the links if you want to do it. It'll at least isolate some of the stuff we can use. And then he can send it to you and then you can do nothing with it. It's great. Yeah, exactly. It's a great sinkhole. It's the way we operate. Sinkhole. I like it. Sinkholes are good. I got a couple things I just want to touch on before we finish with the show.

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Haiti Aid Backlog, Thomas C. Adams and Wyclef Jean

Reports indicate that very little of the $1.1 billion pledged for Haiti's reconstruction has actually reached the country nine months after the earthquake. The State Department has appointed Thomas C. Adams as a special coordinator, though the hosts note a lack of public information about him. They also mention Wyclef Jean's recent hospitalization and the failure of his presidential bid.

haiti· earthquake aid· thomas c. adams· wyclef jean· state department

1:47:41 from one of our producers who wishes to remain anonymous. Hey, Curry, I'm applying for a job and here was one of the questions on the application form. Are you willing to submit to a pre-employment drug and tobacco test? What? A tobacco test? That's weird. Well, yeah, it is. That's like, whoa, okay. We had, here it is, I have some Haiti news, a Haiti update. AP released a statement earlier this week that not a single dime, not a single dime, ruble or shekel nearly nine months after the earthquake of the 1.1 billion dollars pledged has actually made it to Haiti.

1:48:45 unbelievable how is it possible and now i don't see how that could be the even happen in this day and age uh... nor is haiti getting my way with that what do you think the people although the a although i listen to some sure weren't susceptible to this being suckered how do people feel you know texting the ten dollars or or sending a donation and then hearing this year later let's just listen to what uh... our former presidents bush and clinton said as they were asked by our current president barack obama to uh... come into the white house after this uh... tragedy this disaster here they want television worldwide but mainly aimed at the north american market and said this i know a lot of people want to send blankets or water just send your cash and uh... so the cash went to the uh... william jefferson clinton foundation

1:49:41 because of course they didn't have time to set up the Haiti foundation dot org just yet and of the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation has still to release their annual report so the money is gone thanks for sending us your cash and not your blankets some fifty other nations and organizations pledged a total of 8.75 billion for reconstruction so far 686 million of that has reached Haiti But most of that was already pledged by CHF International for rubble removal and temporary shelters. But right now only 2% of the rubble has been cleared. The money is gone, okay? The money is gone. Now, so this news comes out and then the State Department, and I'm gonna need some help from our producers out there, the State Department announces a new puppet

1:50:38 who I can't find anything. The State Department didn't even have a news release on their State Department website. Just bringing up the, this is of course another Ministry of Truth release from AP, Jonathan M. Katz. The US State Department has named a special coordinator to oversee Washington's reconstruction plans. Notice it's Washington's reconstruction plans. An earthquake ravaged Haiti amid complaints about the lagging of promised aid money. Two officials at the department told the Associated Press on Wednesday that Thomas C Adams has already started on the job. Now go ahead and Google him. You can't find a bio, you can't find a wiki page, you can't find him on the State Department website. Nowhere.

1:51:20 So the guy may not even exist, but he's already started. The officials agreed to discuss the move only if not quoted by name because the appointment had not been made public. Right. The disclosure came a day after the AP reported that none of the $1.15 billion in reconstruction aid pledged by the US at a donors conference in March has arrived. Blahdy blahdy blahdy blahdy blah. And Wyclef Jean is now in the hospital. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess he didn't have to go along with the program He's died. You know he did not play at all by the by the rules of the program. He didn't get it No, well last the last thing I get I wanted to get the last one Do this Segway guy because it happened at the early early in the week. That's kind of sickening You know the guy you know they get the Segway guy The Segway guy died the guy who owned the Segway company died because a Segway accident

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Sarah Shourd Release, Yemen Anecdote and Rahm Emanuel

The hosts discuss the release of Sarah Shourd, one of the American hikers detained in Iran, and share an anecdote about a suspicious "photographer" in Yemen with a computer science degree. They also note Rahm Emanuel's expected announcement to run for Mayor of Chicago, signaling a departure from the White House.

sarah shourd· yemen· cia· rahm emanuel· chicago mayor

1:52:12 but you can run over a cliff. You know the other thing that that company made? Yeah, they make, it's a military contractor. They make guardrails. Yeah, it's not exactly guardrails. Do they actually make real guardrails for highways? That's what Mimi turned up. Yeah, she said they do. I thought that he made like barriers that stop bullets or something like that. He's a military guy and he flies, he owns or he owned I should say, surplus military fighter jets. I mean the guys in the business and that's a... They could have been assassinated. It's two to the head total. Yeah. Hi John, I was in Ethiopia recently and met a Chinese-American woman in her mid-30s who is currently living in Sanaa's Yemen. She speaks fluent Arabic to such an extent that when she is wearing her burqa, which she must do in public there, Yemenites cannot tell she is not local apart from Ethiopia, some other vacations,

1:53:05 She has taken art to Anbar province in Iraq also to Pakistan. Of course I immediately thought she must be CIA so I asked her why she's in Yemen. She said she just finds the culture interesting. I love the food. And supposedly works as a photographer for a German infrastructure company. Guess what? She has a computer science degree from UC Berkeley. Oh yeah. So I laugh when you hear. You know that woman, she was interviewed on the BBC, on the BBC World News. And she said, I wish I had pulled a clip from that. She said, you know, the reason I went hiking there is because I wanted to find out the truth about what people say about Iraq and, you know, and know about Iraq. She was following her map.

1:53:55 And, uh, but she said, you know, my writing. Has she written? I thought she was just a hiker. Now she's a writer? Oh, well, you know, you never know. Yeah, yeah. And what's the deal? Why did they release her? Does she really have cancer? She has breast cancer. Because they're not talking about that anymore. Yeah, well, you know. I mean, so does she... They changed the script on these things. Does she have to undergo chemo or radiation or... I don't know. She's just doing interviews. I mean, I don't understand. She's doing interviews. Stressful interviews. Very stressful interviews. Okay. Rahm Emanuel should be announcing tomorrow that he's running for Chicago mayor. So he's out. Everyone's bailing. Everyone's bailing on this thing. They're all out. They do not want to be a part of it.

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Airport Security 2012, Truck Scanners and Smith's Detection

The TSA may lift the ban on liquids by 2012 as new explosive detection equipment is deployed. Meanwhile, a counter-terrorism operation in Atlanta involved scanning semi-trucks with handheld devices. The hosts highlight "Smith's Detection," a company producing high-powered X-ray systems capable of penetrating a foot of steel, raising health concerns for drivers.

tsa· liquid ban· smith's detection· truck scanners· x-ray

1:54:44 Well, you know, I don't think it's going to be the bloodbath that everybody's predicting in terms of the midterm elections personally. I still think the Republicans should get the House back barely. But I think the administration must be a bitch to work for. Yeah, especially Emmanuel. Hey, good news though, John. It seems like by 2012, airline passengers may once again be allowed to board flights with creams, gels and liquids that so far have been banned. Why do you think that is? Well, because in two years. Because it's bullshit? You think maybe that's the real reason? Well, no. Because they will have... They're going to put RFID in the solutions? Close, close. They will have new equipment capable of detecting explosives in water bottles, makeup kits, or toothpaste tubes. Oh really? And these will be installed at most airport security checkpoints by 2012. There you go.

1:55:47 So I just want to jump into that. There was this huge truck stop, if you will, in... let me see where that was. I want to say it was somewhere in the south. And they have these... there's a new company we need to look at who are making amazing things. Just listen to a little bit of this report. This is Channel 2 Action News at 6 p.m. You can gong on. We have new information on this breaking news. Hundreds of truck inspections on Interstate 20 in the past few minutes. We confirm this is all part of a counterterrorism operation. Good evening, I'm Marjorie Pearson. And I'm John Pruitt. Everyone from Homeland Security to air marshals are involved. We've seen inspectors pulling over semis on I-20 in Douglas County and they've been

1:56:42 I'm trying to figure out where this is, but listen to the report. Using explosive detectors on those trucks. A tip to channel 2 investigative reporter Mark Winney. Got us started on the story this afternoon. Mark has been working his sources ever since. He's live on the scene with what he's learned in the past few minutes. Mark. See this guy right here? I understand that device he's using. So the guy has like a little handheld scanner and he's running it against the side of the truck. This is in New Mexico, I believe. Atlanta. Oh, it's Atlanta. Okay.

1:57:27 Hello? How does that work? what crock of crap is this? What is the deal here? Are they putting the squeeze on the Teamsters or on Interstate Commerce? There's something behind the high speed rail. It's terrorism! It's terrorism! No, it's a new company. High speed rail. This shows you how inconvenient trucks are. And it's a new company, RKB, who have a proud FEMA logo on their website because they've received FEMA preparedness grants. You can go to rkb.us

1:58:12 And I'll tell you some of the great... Here's what I want you to really tell me. You can skip all the rest of it. I mean you can play a little more of the clip, it's stupid. But there's the question that comes to mind. And here's the question that the reporter should ask. After spending, what, hundreds of thousands of dollars on all these guys coming in from out of town and all the rest of it, probably lots of overtime with the little radiation detector or whatever they are. What did they come up with? What did they come up with? Nothing. Nothing. We have to look at this company Smith's Detection and they have and this is all researched by producer the Radar Man by the way. They have these just look at this website Smith's Detection dot com. Look at so they have products and solutions by threat by market sector. This is a great company we've got to get in on this company John. They have the

1:59:08 HCVM. This is the... It's well known in the fight against smuggling and terrorism. Become an indispensable tool for customs officers and government authorities applying homeland security rules. So basically it's a huge radar, X-ray, and you run the truck through it. And then they can see through, like, they have like some thing here. It can go through up to 200 and 80 millimeters of steel. That's 28 centimeters. That's a foot. Who drives the truck? But wait, it's a foot! Yeah, no, just the regular dude. You know, you guys, when they come out, does a guy come out as a corpse, the driver? The guy drives it through himself. But listen, steel penetration of a foot! Yeah, 11 inches. What kind of radar, what kind of x-ray is that that goes through a foot of steel? I don't know, it doesn't sound healthy.

2:00:08 They've got amazing stuff. I hate to get downwind of that thing. And they're making these poor schmucks drive through it. They've got millimeter wave inspection. They've got the Eco. It's very beautiful. Which is networked. It's just an amazing company. Let's see, are they public? Nope. I hope they have an IPO. Wow. Just great. It's just great. Great stuff. Alright, I think I'll wind it up with a little select clip from Access Hollywood.

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Lindsay Lohan Mugshots, Media Distraction and Show Outro

The hosts conclude the show by mocking an Access Hollywood segment that asked viewers to vote on their favorite Lindsay Lohan mugshot. They contrast this "disgusting" media distraction with the serious topics covered in the episode. Adam Curry signs off from Southern California, warning of a potential earthquake, while John C. Dvorak signs off from Silicon Valley.

lindsay lohan· mugshots· access hollywood· mind control· california

2:00:44 Because while we are telling you all of this stuff and to be on the lookout for the true terrorists who are in Washington, who are terrorizing you and trying to make you feel like a very scared slave, here's what the networks really want you to be worried about. Moving on now to Lindsay Lohan, we asked the nation out on bail, will Lindsay manage to stay clean until her October 22nd court date? And this one wasn't even close. 91% of the nation said no chance, she's an addict who's not getting help. I don't mean to be smiling and laughing as I say this either. No, but I mean I think you know what a natural reaction I think a lot of people feel the same way as Judge Eldon Fox the original judge that said you know what enough crap you're going straight to jail goodbye the zero tolerance approach

2:01:28 Enough is enough. She's been to jail three times since 2007 and this next time she goes to rehab will be five times in rehab. Which means we have a total of four mugshots. Billy, I'm thinking we could do a coffee table book about her mugshots. Good point Maria. And on that lighter side, which Lindsay mugshot is your favorite? 45% say Lindsay's most recent shot is the best. I don't know, it looks like the lips have been done or something in the last few years. Well, clearly. But I think she does look a lot more fresh than she has in a long time. Certainly more alert and with it. So which Lindsey Mugshot... What is... These people should be shot. Which Lindsey Mugshot do you like the best? It's disgusting. I know. It's too funny though. And that's what most of the slaves are watching. Well, not our listeners. No, no, of course not. And we'd like to continue to bring you real information.

2:02:23 We do a lot so you don't have to. Like watching boneheads from the United Nations Office of Drug and Crime. Setting up videos that they forgot to edit. We watch C-SPAN. And sometimes we even watch horrible new television. Just to find the memes of how you're being mind controlled. To support us go to Dvorak.org slash NA or channel Dvorak.com slash NA. Coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic here of Southern California where we should have a big earthquake today. I'm Adam Curry. Yeah, good luck with that earthquake. And I'm up here in Northern Silicon Valley where it should be safe. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on NO Agenda.