Travelers face systemic harassment at Schiphol Airport while private corporations turn electronic monitoring into a lucrative domestic industry as the Tea Party movement undergoes a radical ideological shift.
The Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) is being weaponized as a tool for traveler harassment at Schiphol Airport, where American citizens face significant delays despite holding valid passports. KLM check-in protocols and the proliferation of naked body scanners at individual gates signal a tightening of the 'Gitmo Nation' security apparatus. These measures, purportedly designed for safety, increasingly resemble a coordinated effort to normalize invasive biometric surveillance and iris scanning for the general public.
Inland, the normalization of electronic monitoring bracelets for minor traffic offenses in Champaign County, Illinois, reveals a growing private-sector influence on the justice system. Companies like BI Corporation are accused of producing pre-packaged news segments to sell GPS tracking as a cost-saving measure for local sheriffs. Meanwhile, the Tea Party movement faces a strategic takeover by social conservatives like Brian Fisher of the American Family Association, who utilize Marxist-style co-opting tactics to pivot the movement away from its libertarian, fiscal-focused origins toward a divisive social agenda.
Cultural oddities and corporate overreach collide as Tulsa police issue warnings over the Pedobear internet meme, fundamentally misunderstanding 4chan culture. In Haiti, the Mevs family and the World Bank are moving forward with airport hotel projects that critics label disaster capitalism, clearing refugees from private land for industrial zones. The show also explores the Ground Wireless Emergency Network (GWEN) towers and DARPA research into remote brain stimulation, while acknowledging Executive Producers Sir Paul Couture and John Little for their support of the value-for-value model.
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CHAPTER 01 / 56Discussion
No Agenda Episode 235 Introduction, Schiphol Airport Travel Issues
Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 235 of No Agenda from their respective "command centers" in California. The discussion begins with a detailed account of travel difficulties at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, specifically regarding the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) and its integration into the KLM check-in process.
00:00 I'm surprised they're not killing each other more often. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's September 16th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 235! This is no agenda. Safely located 500 feet above the ground wave emergency network antenna arrays in a hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center at Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California In The Morning, I'm Adam Curry And without a long-winded introduction, I'm John C. DeVore Action. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... Hey John in the morning to ya. In the morning to you and all ships at sea. ...and all of the human resources who are nicely charged up and in the chatroom at noagendachat dot net where The Party is always on when we're streaming live at least
00:49 There's still people in there a lot of the time. Oh, yeah people are in there all the time 24-7 In fact that's a great source of information I'm always watching to see if someone stumbled across something oh Man what a horrible trip back? Yeah you got sick. I understand well before I even got sick at Schiphol Airport had a little issue checking in and this sounds entertaining oh yes it's extremely entertaining so since a week and a half they have now connected the ETSA to check-in systems at least at KLM they have, and that would mean Delta and Northwest and Air France
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ESTA System Errors, Harassment of American Citizens at Check-in
The hosts critique the application of the ESTA system to American citizens, which they argue should only apply to foreign visitors. One host describes a one-hour delay at check-in caused by address mismatches in the computer system, suggesting the process serves as a form of harassment for travelers despite holding valid U.S. passports.
01:38 It's of course is the electronic system for travel authorization. Wait a minute, hold on, so then you have a ticket? Oh yeah I have a ticket but... So shouldn't they take care of that on the tickets side rather than at the very end of your trip? No if and for some reason now first of all let me last time i looked at my passport I'm an American so I shouldn't even have to go through this electronic system for travel authorization At least I thought i didn't. It's only for foreigners who... Yeah it is, you're right there was no reason for you to go through this so obviously you didn't. Well let me tell you what's going on! So this ETSA system is saying that I think you have to pay 40 bucks for the privilege of visiting Gitmo Nation West or Gitmo Nation proper as we call it
02:27 However, they do enter your passport details and although the check-in representative was very vague and had to call into the computer centrum to fix whatever was wrong. Now for Mickey I understand because you know they were looking for a resident permanent resident card and she does have a visa, an O1 visa for exceptional talent We won't mention what that talent is, will we now baby? But it's recognized. Yeah! It's recognized yeah So you know so there was some issue there but before all that both Christina and myself because the address somehow didn't match up with whatever records they had it automatically blocks the check-in process
03:18 So it took us an hour just to check in. Wow! Yeah, and I'm outraged because we shouldn't have to go through that system at all has nothing to do with American citizens. I have the right to enter the United States as long as my passport is valid. And check this so after we finally get done with that... Well they must have assumed your passport was a fraud? I don't know what they assumed but they wouldn't tell me. I kept asking but i was kind of you know maybe it's harassment It's possible But then here's the next part of the Gitmo Nation equation. Your luggage is allowed to be 55 pounds, right? That's 23 kilograms. It depends on the carrier. No it is now a... this I checked no and this gets even worse they will not transport luggage over 55 pounds you can't even purchase the additional weight
CHAPTER 03 / 56Discussion
Airline Luggage Weight Restrictions, Global Entry Iris Scans
A discussion regarding strict airline luggage limits focuses on the 23-kilogram (55-pound) cap and the inability to purchase additional weight on certain carriers. The conversation touches on the Global Entry program's use of iris scans and shares an anecdote about bypassing weight limits by carrying a laptop separately during a Lufthansa check-in.
04:17 And this also will be now connected to the check-in process. So the scale will be connected to the check in process, because we had two bags of course I'm traveling with chicks Two bags that registered more than 23 kilos, 23 point... Yeah go ahead Mickey you can sign up for that global register thing That gets you into the country with your iris scan Go ahead You're a CIA asset it doesn't matter Go ahead. I am not signing up for that I'll stand in line She's waving the folder at me. What? What did you just say? So anyways, it was just crazy! So what happened?
05:00 Well no, so they let me slide on that one because we were about to miss the plane and And on top of all that one of our bags didn't arrive again labeled as priority I might add. Yeah priority Let's check this one out. Yeah priority thanks for the priority label. I remember some years ago I was checking into a Lufthansa flight when they had a real strict it wasn't 55 pounds It was something like 40 pounds it was ridiculous And so I checked the bag, put the bag in the thing and the guy says oh no you're 42 pounds. You can't check this luggage, you're overweight and you have to charge him. And I said well hold on a second he says can you lie? So I opened the bag, took out two and half three pound laptop closed the bag gave it back to him held the laptop under my arm. Yeah that was okay right? Yeah! Then he says okay your good and let me get the bag and put the laptop back in. I'm telling ya its stupid.
05:54 Completely stupid. So, uh... Yeah it was just- And so then we go to check in and I mean the- It was a zoo The KLM ground flight attendants Ground attendant were extremely unfriendly He's a big fuck you to KLM! I mean sorry Air France Was it Air France? Well KLM is owned by Air France. Yeah I know but what did it say on the air? No, it says KLM but then check this so we're late and I'm like walking towards the gate because I'm seeing every single gate because they way they do at Schiphol is that they have a security check at the individual gates right that way they can buy more scanners you know naked body scanners
CHAPTER 04 / 56Discussion
Naked Body Scanners, Security Protocols at Schiphol Airport
The hosts describe the proliferation of naked body scanners at individual gates within Schiphol Airport. They note the irony of these security measures in the same airport associated with the "crotch bomber" incident, while observing that some gates still rely on traditional magnetometers when the scanners are inactive.
05:00 Well no, so they let me slide on that one because we were about to miss the plane and And on top of all that one of our bags didn't arrive again labeled as priority I might add. Yeah priority Let's check this one out. Yeah priority thanks for the priority label. I remember some years ago I was checking into a Lufthansa flight when they had a real strict it wasn't 55 pounds It was something like 40 pounds it was ridiculous And so I checked the bag, put the bag in the thing and the guy says oh no you're 42 pounds. You can't check this luggage, you're overweight and you have to charge him. And I said well hold on a second he says can you lie? So I opened the bag, took out two and half three pound laptop closed the bag gave it back to him held the laptop under my arm. Yeah that was okay right? Yeah! Then he says okay your good and let me get the bag and put the laptop back in. I'm telling ya its stupid.
05:54 Completely stupid. So, uh... Yeah it was just- And so then we go to check in and I mean the- It was a zoo The KLM ground flight attendants Ground attendant were extremely unfriendly He's a big fuck you to KLM! I mean sorry Air France Was it Air France? Well KLM is owned by Air France. Yeah I know but what did it say on the air? No, it says KLM but then check this so we're late and I'm like walking towards the gate because I'm seeing every single gate because they way they do at Schiphol is that they have a security check at the individual gates right that way they can buy more scanners you know naked body scanners
06:40 And every single gate I'm seeing a naked body scanner. I'm like, I'm already late This is gonna be really bad because I'm gonna have to refuse to go through the naked body scanner and I'm not quite sure you Have the option in get Monation lowlands? I'm not sure And I get to our gate, remember this is the airport that let the crotch bomber through. The so-called crotch bomber and again i get to the gate and the naked body scanner is closed and they're using the magnometer they're using their metal detector So they don't have the thing there they are not even using it! This is this is the place that started at all
07:19 It's crazy. I'm telling you it's crazy and i hate it all, I hate it... You should take the train from Amsterdam next time! I must say there is such an array of amazing trains good planes bad stories we're gonna have to do that later today. It's..I think they heard us saying well you know that they're spitting in our eye now john hill and all my business a while we can't beat these guys are going to do is make our few listeners aware so they can laugh about it but it's just pure entertainment for the crowd of us and but until any of these guys like a we've got him now let's just show who was really boss when i'm making my pitches estimates make rules of them makes big fools of them indeed so why don't you uh... tell me what he gets sick yeah and so then we we came back so as tuesday
CHAPTER 05 / 56Discussion
Jamba Juice Illness, Return to Gitmo Nation Proper
One host recounts falling ill with a 24-hour stomach virus after consuming a Jamba Juice smoothie, jokingly speculating about swine flu or foul play. Upon returning to the United States, the hosts transition the discussion toward the political co-opting of the Tea Party movement.
08:09 And I'm not quite sure, because we...I did have a smoothie from Jamba Juice. But so did the girls they had the same one and i just got so sick like 24-hour stomach virus. I mean maybe it was uh maybe was the swine flu? I don't know But I got really, really sick and then I just had to sleep and sleep and sleep. And then I guess I sweat it all out and I'm okay now. I'm still not pooping normally as you know. Did somebody bump into you? Maybe like prick your skin with something is that possible? You notice anybody bumping into you awkwardly? Hmm let me think...
08:46 I think Mickey She's bumped into me. No, it could be anyway You know as much as I enjoyed some parts of our travels I'm very happy to be back in Gitmo nation proper has no place like home man There really isn't I'll even take the chemtrails so We got a lot of stories. I'm kind of concentrating on the co-opting of the Tea Party. Okay, well before we do that shall we thank some producers? Do we have some? Might as well. Well, we might as well seeing they're the only ones who keep our bills paid and keep us on air. Again Paul Couture's on... The people who've ordered their first batch of coins should receive them right now Oh my god did you get yours John? No. OH MY GOD! I got mine?!
CHAPTER 06 / 56Discussion
No Agenda Challenge Coins, Sir Paul Couture's Design
The hosts showcase the new batch of No Agenda challenge coins designed by Sir Paul Couture, praising their quality and presentation in velvet cases. Listeners are encouraged to send photos of their coins in interesting locations to the fan community website, with the hosts discussing the potential long-term value of these items.
09:36 And for some reason I got a gold one and they're just outstandingly beautiful. I've got the little velvet presentation case and tons of people have been tweeting, sending emails about it... Yeah they have photos all over the internet. Actually I'll have the link here Sir Paul Couture asked if you take a picture of your coin in a fun, interesting famous local place and email it to coins at no agenda fans dot com. Oh cool! He's going to compile it into a video with us... Watch Paul Couture who is actually a coder he's actually having so much fun with this now you know he's doing the process of finalizing the rings yeah and ten years from now its going to be couture coins and it will be like the Franklin Mint I'll be making millions
10:30 Yeah, it's like you don't have a knack and these coins are so well designed. It's like wow I mean just want to own one well And I've I've so now I've actually taken the the little velvet baggie that it comes with and I've put all my coins in there Because of course I don't wanna be caught anywhere when someone does a coin check on me And I don't have the no agenda coins. So I've got my no agenda call embarrassing yeah, I've got my Iraq Marines coin and I've got my gold one ounce coin. So now when I walk around actually, I lean to the right! Anyway so yes Sir Paul Couture let's see is this a we have it...so he's put in Wow
CHAPTER 07 / 56Discussion
Executive Producer Credits, Donation Tiers and Knighthood
The show acknowledges high-tier donors, naming Paul Couture and John Little as Executive Producers for their significant financial contributions. Other donors, including C Chase McCarthy and Scott Denny, are recognized for their support, with the hosts explaining the "Order of the Mint" and the path to knighthood through donations.
11:12 $1,333.33 that includes a newest order of the mint right? Yes which we'll announce later Scott Denny perfect and then he'll be the executive producer along with John Little uh... from mcgee mississippi who actually says four hundred dollars at three hundred and a hundred and i get the sense he wanted to be uh... on the way did broke it up that way but whatever the case is so good executive producer and we have a two associate executive producers see chase mccarthy of Madrid, Spain and Tampa Florida and Christian Stead Virgin Islands. He's on the move now see Chase McCarthy this is his second or third donation so he's up to he's a made night with this do it this donation and sorry the other one was
12:01 Greg Stone, is that what you said? No no. Paul Couture and John Little are the executive producers Oh yeah I got those And then C Chase McCarthy is Madrid Spain Scott Denny is a night OTM The Order of the Mint But uh... I don't know do we give him an executive producer spot We could But does Greg Stone not get a...? I don't see- no Greg Stone gets an associate I haven't gotten to him yet That's what I'm talking about! C Chase McCarthy is also an exec yeah okay I'm sorry and then when going down the list your number six graham stone graphic okay okay gotcha he says he loves to look at his name in the credits of this marvelous work of simplicity who what what nice place it would find it perhaps that's no no but funny we're using all pro gear here yeah really
12:57 I'm just so thirsty for knighthood and getting antsy on the home stretch here. $220 remaining, give anyone listening live that hasn't donated but could douchebag those are executive producers for today a couple of PR shoutouts of course there is a new no agenda choin at join join challenge coin challenge and noagendafans.com this is the 42 coin which I'm actually I'm gonna order a couple myself to give this some friends because it's just so amazing and I've told them about it and they're like you're out of your mind
CHAPTER 08 / 56Discussion
No Agenda Soundboard, 101010 Binary Pins and Geocaching
New community projects are highlighted, including an HTML5-based soundboard compatible with mobile devices and a "super karma" package featuring pins for the date October 10, 2010. These pins incorporate binary code for the number 42, crop circle designs, and tracking numbers for a global geocaching initiative.
13:33 Yeah, so I'm gonna order a couple of those. I think we're were 65% sold out yeah, it's gonna be sold out shortly fast We have to make these runs a little bigger. I do want to met we didn't talk about it on Sunday No agenda tour calm is starting to fill up this is the The Hot Pockets across America tour that Mickey and I are planning on doing the only thing we don't have yet Is a an RV? So we're looking for an RV to use it for our no agenda tour comm Something brand new which I thought was amazing the no agenda Soundboard is now in existence, and it does not flash based. It's completely HTML based So it'll work on your iPhone or your iPad? In fact. It's so good I could almost use it as as the jingle machine for this show because
14:24 Which is, yeah it's really beautiful. Noagendasoundboard.com I got a rather long PDF explanation about the noagendersuperkarma.com package, now these are the pins for the 101010 which of course is binary for 42 according to The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy is the answer to all questions in the universe and everything else there's really quite a lot of cool tidbits about these pins It's got to if have you looked at the site John? Have you had a chance to do that actually no, but it has look now. What is it with the URL? No agenda super karma calm and One second I just want to bring this up myself
15:15 So it's shaped like 42, it has the 10-10-10 written... Hold on let me I should open this up. Okay okay It's got the 10-10-10 written with 42 dots and that's 12 crop circle designs. It has 27 which is 3 times 3 times three code symbols and it also has a tracking number for geocaching dot com And forty two of these medallions will be set out uh... permanently around the world in geo caches this crazy that is crazy but i like it thirty three dollars and thirty three cents and of course uh... i think a sixty percent of that goes to the show as well to support no agenda we couldn't be happier
CHAPTER 09 / 56Discussion
Subliminal App Easter Eggs, Public Wi-Fi SSIDs
The hosts encourage app developers to hide No Agenda logos as Easter eggs in their software, citing "The Exercise Coach" as an example. They also give a shout-out to a listener in Northern Ireland who named his public Wi-Fi SSID after the show, and briefly address a listener's request for advice on teenage employment.
16:02 There's a new iPhone app and this is something I really encourage. This is the, I put it in the show notes, The Exercise Coach and there's a little No Agenda logo Easter egg hidden in the app And I think this is good! This is very subliminal So you app developers out there, put little no agenda pictures and stuff subliminally in your apps. I like that That's the subliminal stuff always works Shout out to Gitmo Nation Leprechaun John Kelly who's in Bangor, Northern Ireland. He just set up his Wi-Fi connection His SSID is noagendershow.com password INTHEMORNING If anyone happens to use his connection he has 30 megabits per second down 10 megabit per second up We just want to remind people that it is a good idea To make the public portion of your Wi-Fi system
17:00 Yeah, almost all the new Wi-Fi routers have a public... you can segment off of your bandwidth for public access. Exactly! Then got a note from Zach he says hey Adam bit of long shot but do you have any recommendations or tips for teenagers seeking jobs if I can't get one soon i may have to start something to the tune of noagendajobs.com I need jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs." I thought we had something...I thought someone was doing noagendajobs.com? I don't know We should do that It's hard to keep track of all these things Well then the final one And this needs some work but this is from Alex from Gitmo Nation Lowlands He says
CHAPTER 10 / 56Discussion
Johnny Walker Gold Label Fundraising, Producer Vouching
A listener offers five limited-edition Johnny Walker Black Label bottles with 23-karat gold logos for fundraising, though the hosts express confusion over the legality of shipping alcohol. They conclude the segment by reiterating that they will vouch for the professional credits of their Executive Producers.
17:45 I was unable to come to the Dutch Noah agenda meeting. I was overseas." I know where he was, this is one of our sources He says, "...I have five limited edition Johnny Walker black label bottles in a case The Walker logo is 23 karat gold and these have never been for sale The bottle sell for $150 on the web... ...I want to use these bottles for your fundraising so anyone who donates $333 will get one of these limited-edition bottles They have to donate the money directly to you guys, but I'd like you to reimburse the shipping costs So this is clearly a great idea Alexander. The problem is A we're never gonna set this up because were too stupid so someone would have to help him out B I don't think you can ship liquor. I think these are just empty bottles. They're beautiful man These black label bottles with it really is 23 karat gold. So I'm hopefully someone picture of it
18:41 uh... never heard of this and yeah i'd like to ask me about all the sanity because that's going to also figure some out let's put it that way because they have been is really cool but he was doing with the bottles what does he have them first rule of no agenda p r as we can talk about no agenda p r john anyway congratulations sir paul couture john little nc chase mccarthy for being our executive producers of this program works just like a real credit in hollywood uh... you pay for the show you pay for the movie you paid to the tv series that you become executive producer and of course our associate executive producer greg stone we appreciate it this is a credit you can put on your i am dvd in your email signature and the great thing about it is unlike hollywood we will absolutely vouch for you just have someone call up and will tell him it's so everybody else out there free propagated formula
CHAPTER 11 / 56Discussion
Electronic Monitoring Bracelets, Lindsay Lohan and Chelsea Handler
The hosts discuss the normalization of electronic monitoring bracelets, which they dub "Gitmo Nation jewelry." They reference a comedic skit from the MTV Video Music Awards featuring Lindsay Lohan and Chelsea Handler that jokes about Lohan's SCRAM bracelet, arguing this is a PR effort to make house arrest seem preferable to incarceration.
19:38 We hit people in the mouth. Go Cameron! Word up! Order! Say it everybody! Shut Up Slave! Day. Shut up slave. Feel better? Yeah, that is the best way to wake up in the morning... Is to yell a hearty shut-up slave. Let's have your alarm clock scream it out. Get up slave! Time to recharge your human resource slave
20:17 Before you get into the tea party stuff John, I really have to mention that...I think we were pretty much correct about this Gitmo Nation jewelry. Remember so of course Lindsay Lohan? Immediately said look this this scram bracelet. She has Actually, I think I said she'll be in a Vogue shoot for with wearing that but the whole reason why the court you know allowed cameras and it's such a big deal is they're really propagating this don't go to jail wear a Wear some get mo nation jewelry and I did not see the MTV Video Music Awards Gee, I can't believe I missed it
21:02 uh... but the money set everybody said it was the worst ever he was when you have justin bieber winning anything this is a problem and back in the good old days vince neil from motley crew would like to kick someone's ass backstage now that was one of his cool now we get just beaver anyway so there wasn't chelsea handler who is a talk show host here in the states why do like i think she's pretty funny as she was hosting the show so there's a backstage moment where we have lindsay lohan hooking up with Chelsea Handler and you know, Chelsea's in like her bathrobe getting ready for the show. And listen to the little comedic bit! They're such great actresses this comedic bit just before the Video Music Awards started there it comes I think Hey Lindsay Have you been drinking? No Really then why is your ankle bracelet going off hmm
22:01 Oh, that just means my table's ready at the cheesecake factory. Wake up Handler! Pull it together! You're a mess! Do you think anyone wants to work for the drunk? Take it from me they don't Okay okay...you turned your life around Maybe I can too That's the spirit kid Now go get em Thanks Freckle Alright so ha ha ha ha Gitmo Nation Jewelry Bracelet But now listen to this report from W I CD and this really sums let me just see what where's w ICD, and where is that? It's gotta be back east somewhere Well just play it out. I'll look it up. Oh, that's a Illinois okay here we go This is a great clip this is totally astounding
CHAPTER 12 / 56Discussion
Champaign County Jail, Electronic Home Detention for Traffic Violations
A news report from WICD in Illinois details how offenders in Champaign County are placed on electronic home detention for minor offenses like traffic tickets. Sheriff Dan Walsh explains that the program saves the county money, while the hosts express outrage that first-time traffic offenders are being subjected to 24/7 GPS monitoring and surprise home checks.
22:51 Getting fitted for an electronic monitoring bracelet, Natriana Pates is just a few moments away from leaving jail. I'm actually really excited that I get to do this instead of being in jail She will serve her sentence at home after getting jail time for traffic violation without the program she'd have to drop out of school I mean, I'm able to go to school with Sterling. Dozens of people were put on electronic home detention this week at the Champaign County Jail For me it's a blessing. Um...I had a driving ticket instead of being incarcerated and away from my children financially I... It's a blessing John. Did you hear that? She had a driving ticket?! Oh yeah, it's a blessing John please! It was a blessing that she had a driving ticket and they threw her in the slammer while she had kids this is the kind of course that we're running this country? No no its a blessing that she could wear the bracelet the gitmo jewelry instead of going to the slammer That's the blessing John its a blessing Financially I pay them to let me stay home
23:48 financially I pay them to let me stay home it's a beautiful system. I pay them to let me stay home. Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says expanding the program has saved the county hundreds of thousands of dollars, the county avoids using your tax dollars for our prisoners room and board. It saves the county an an awful lot of money at a time when we don't have the money. And it does give some of these first-time offenders a chance to still maintain employment." First Time Offenders! First Time Offender shouldn't be thrown in the slammer for parking tickets! First Time Offenders, everybody! ...is a strict system involving 24 7 monitoring...
24:25 Real-time GPS on them so we can tell within 50 feet or so where they are at any given time Deputies even surprise checks to make sure rules of follow surprise checks Did you hear that knock they even have the knock down all up yeah, listen that the knock is awesome here I want to hear that again. They are at any given time Deputies even do surprise checks to make sure rules are followed. Sergeant Cunningham, Deputy Wehrmacht from the Sheriff's Office. Can we speak with you and talk to you? Patsy Howell is on the program because of traffic violations. Do I have one coming into your house and nose around? Yeah oh yeah they come right in! We're gonna check your sleeves how ya doing let me see... Check your bracelet. They go get my bracelet. Here in my apartment then in a holding cell yes okay
CHAPTER 13 / 56Discussion
Media Propaganda, Private Corporations and Electronic Monitoring
The hosts analyze the production quality of local news segments on electronic monitoring, suggesting they are pre-produced packages created by the companies that manufacture the bracelets, such as BI Corporation. They argue these "human interest" stories are actually propaganda designed to facilitate a system where citizens pay for their own "freedom" through monitoring fees.
25:14 Yes, what was she busted for making a left turn? I'd rather be in my apartment than on a holding cell. Yes That's awesome So it's now they're moving it this is what the show was about This is exactly what we do here on no agenda Is we tell you the movement to push that PR that the media is being abused for and here It is they're actually saying it now by the way. This is a completely pre-produced package John Because the sound because the sound is all messed up they have a music and effects And then as people who are listening to this on the podcast in stereo will hear it that They have the effects on the left channel and the voiceover on the right hand channel. Oh, they never mixed I'll never mix it down exactly so that's that tells you right there that it's a sloppy production So yeah, even though local channels This is probably done by one of the companies that makes the bracelets
26:11 what was that was our main when we're looking at uh... was a call to get in the eyes yeah i'd by corporation yet and those guys probably did it they played paid some you know small-time operator to uh... produces show they have of the couple of that there's enough unemployed newscasters out there he always get one to do a little standout is that with a microphone yes here we are doing dot if it is the whole thing and then and then they pass all over the country and this did it then you we have our situation where they do it were short you know we got to the new show a half an hour day were short five minutes of material say we've got a human interest peace yeah human interest is that too stupid to see if for what it is which is propaganda read bad for the for the for the country propaganda but they run it as a piece in a introduce every week spot at least response may these as weekend there all so obviously using two long
27:06 and it's a part of the scheme to screw us over, steal our money. Basically we're just another way of stealing our money But the thing was... The lady said it right there I'm paying for my freedom! I love it! I am a paying slave! For tax Here is the thing that blows me away though this is so that they don't drink I mean I understand if you're caught driving on under the influence If you get caught again yeah we should cut your testicles off whatever But this, you cannot drink! This is... I don't understand. Isn't that against some kind of right? I can drink at home?! Apparently not So in Chicago, Kane County over Labor Day weekend they had DUI convictions people who are not allowed to drink
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Neo-Prohibitionism, DUI Breath Testing and Cross-Examination
The discussion shifts to "neo-prohibitionist" policies in Chicago, where individuals with DUI convictions were required to perform breathalyzer tests eight times over a holiday weekend. The hosts compare the lack of public outrage over these restrictions to the legal handling of child pornography cases, where evidence is often difficult to cross-examine.
27:55 And some of them had, so they had required breath testing. Some of them had to go to the police station eight times over the three-day holiday weekend to do a breathalyzer test to see if they'd been drinking and this makes no sense! I understand, you know you can't drink or drive under the influence of alcohol. No this is part of the neo-prohibitionist movement it's got nothing to do with drinking and driving But how come no one says anything about this? We're saying... Yeah we're saying You and me! We are a little pinhead of voice in a vast universe of noise
28:34 but it's not okay. I know, the reason that there is no outrage whatsoever uh... it sits beyond me and of course it has that you know say well then your review think people should be drinking all the time or you did they're gonna go out and drive? No, nobody saying that but just like this child porn role you are you know what does this guy have child porn on his computer yeah a child porn really do we know for a fact well somebody looked at said it was Nobody's ever outraged about the fact that this is not something that can be cross-examined. It's just somebody's word. Oh boy, yes. There was one guy designated to be able look I guess at the images? I don't know you had to bring it up. I think its sketchy You had to bring it up didn't ya? You had to bring it up! You had to bring up Pete O'Bear And hows the Pete O'Bear doing well let's have a listen. I can tell you exactly how they are
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Pedobear Internet Meme, Tulsa Police Department Warning
Tulsa police issued a warning to parents about "Pedobear," an internet meme they claim is used by child predators as a mascot. The hosts mock the news report for failing to understand the character's origins as a joke on sites like 4chan used to mock pedophilia, rather than a tool for actual predators.
29:27 A police warning about an internet fad is being mocked in cyberspace. It all started with a California Police Department, but a warning against a cartoon bear preying on children was issued here in Tulsa News on 6 reporter Ashley Sims has the new details on the character that has Tulsa police telling parents to beware Internet joke or seemingly innocent menace. Peta Bear, the cartoon and... By the way I think the correct pronunciation is Pedo-Bear. I don't like Peta Bear. I think it is Pedo bear that's what everyone calls it but that's okay these guys are just newscasters who don't care about doing things right yeah just another package so Tulsa? Tulsa Oklahoma everybody! Oh man. Stand by it gets better John it gets better have a listen. Imagine people who dress up like it have police putting parents on alert. Ah! Standby parents pedobears ah da blah blah
30:15 absolute disgust to think that a group of people who are child predators would have a mascot. It's our mascot! We need the pito bear bobble head. I'm sure that these crazy creeps out there that are pedophiles think, let's have a meeting. Let's have a mascot. Hey, how you doing with that little boy? And I think we need a mascot. Yeah, I agree. Let's have a vote. What?! and pedo bear is short for pedophile an image originated in Japan the website url-esque says pet a bear started as a way to mock pedophilia the site says when someone would post a risque picture of an underage girl someone would respond with a picture of pedobear instead of popping up in cyberspace pedobears now walking among us or at least Californians he's walking among us at least California he's walking right now I was going past the house
31:19 Stop him! Where's my shotgun Martha? The appearance of someone in a pedo bear costume handing out free candy to children at the San Diego Comic-Con prompted San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Department to issue a warning to parents. Tulsa police also picked it up... Whoever did that is funny. The guy who yeah, they got it. Handing out free candy. Is that comic con for God sake don't they even know what that is? Keyword comic The alert links Pettibare's image to people who have a predilection to sexually inappropriate or even sexually assaultive behavior. Now notice that just went from pedophilia, to just being horny
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Media Misunderstanding of Internet Culture, San Luis Obispo Sheriff
The hosts criticize the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Department and Tulsa police for standing by their Pedobear alerts despite media outlets like Gawker pointing out the character is a joke. They argue that the police and local news are manufacturing a threat out of a punchline, ignoring statistics that show most predators are known to the victims.
32:05 Did you hear that? Yeah. ...actually inappropriate or even sexually assaultive behavior. Pettibear gets more than 5 million hits on Google and this... That's Pettibare popular! That's what happening there. ...year wasn't the first time it appeared at Comic-Con websites like Gawker.com have scoffed at the police warning calling the cartoon nothing more than a joke See, this is what pisses me off how come they don't say NoahGendershow.com has mocked the warning, how come a gawker gets the props? Gawkers got better PR people we have you know yeah we have a lot of PR people but they're not in that... They are not directed properly But the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Department is standing by their alert and so is TPD. A Tulsa sergeant says pedal bear did start out as a punchline but it's now being used by pedophiles
32:55 Oops. want to identify themselves as the police. This is so much bullshit! I love it, we need a pedo-bear challenge going on. And these reporters actually report this as an action... As though it were factual and its unbelievable to me that this was going on at this level. By pedophiles who identify one another Even if it started out as a joke or continues as a joke It's still important for parents to be aware My message would be To never assume
33:40 innocence. Are they complete fools in Tulsa? I've checked with Tulsa Police Department. Do we have anyone who's ever donated from Tulsa? They're off the list, is that what you're saying? We'll ask Eric. This is crazy! According to federal statistics it's not a stranger in costume but people you know who are most likely to be a child predator only 7% of juvenile sexual assault victims are attacked by strangers Ashley Sims the news on 6 tonight Wow, good one. Good catch!
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Pope Benedict XVI UK Visit, Pedobear Comparison
In a brief satirical aside, the hosts compare the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI in the United Kingdom to the "Pedobear" controversy. They mention state receptions and private lunches scheduled for the Pope while referencing recent earthquake drills in "Gitmo Nation East."
34:20 This is just too amazing. Meanwhile, the real Pete Aubert is visiting the United Kingdom and will be... let me see where's the Pope visiting today? He is going to arrive at 11 I guess he already arrived. He has a state reception, private lunch Oh! He's gonna be very very busy. I guess that why they were doing those earthquake drills in Gitmo Nation East because Pete Aubert... look at that suit man That guy's got the real pedo bear suit on as far as I'm concerned, but no new Let's let's blame the guy in the bear outfit yet comic-con at Comic Con. Oh I needed that good laugh good laugh in the morning everybody all right how you doing John? So we've got a bunch of activity and the political scene taking place that's kind of interesting yeah here in Gitmo nation proper I have Yeah
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Tea Party Movement Origins, Social Conservative Co-opting
The hosts discuss the evolution of the Tea Party movement, noting its origins in Ron Paul's libertarian "money bombs" and its subsequent co-opting by social conservatives. They identify figures like Sarah Palin, Dick Armey, and Brian Fisher of the American Family Association as leaders pushing the movement away from fiscal issues toward social agendas.
35:18 The Tea Party's been, well we've predicted this was going to happen early on of course. It has been taken over by social conservatives You know one of the things I learned on this NPR show Actually I think I knew this before but never thought about it which is Tea Party, T stands for taxed enough already Really I didn't know that yeah, I kind of knew it but then it was reiterated on this NPR. I never heard that before is it would did that originate from the original Boston Tea Party or is that no? No, no This is new the bus and tea party was about T taxation on tea and they threw it over the side I mean I just want to remind people that the tea party movement started I think with Ron Paul who
36:02 who did money bombs and it was not a political party but this is actually the Tea Party Nation I think is the official name. Well there's a bunch of them, there's Tea Party Express, there's Tea Party which is... There are tea parties of and various cities. I have an NPR clip that kind of breaks down little bit what you're gonna hear here only part of is the uh... is the world a woman from the tea party waco who's a realty party or that they've got it taxes many of them are uh... who's just against taxation more taxation and you know and then government spending basically it's it and uh... and a guy whose head of american now with the hills in his american family if american family association which is a extreme social conservative pressure group
36:50 gray-haired fart basically company that brian fisher we have to keep an eye out for cusies you know far as he's concerned the tea party is in a dive it doesn't go and then sense you know get rid of the days and get rid of them faggots Yeah, that kind of thing and so these guys have moved into the tea party along with Dick army no And and Sarah Palin yeah Just like you predicted you said Sarah Palin is gonna co-opt and is gonna be shoved right in you You predicted that a long time ago. Yeah right at the beginning actually yep, and we do that on this show So don't forget to work org slash na help help us out. Anyway, let's listen to this NPR thing I didn't take the whole thing he actually gets worse after it gets going when this guy keeps saying well you know he gone on his soapbox about gays and Muslims and everything. Wait so this is the Tea Party who have... So then they're anti-gay?
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NPR Tea Party Coverage, Waco Tea Party Interview
An NPR segment featuring Toby Marie Walker of the Waco Tea Party is analyzed. The hosts argue that NPR intentionally brings on "cranks" to marginalize the movement, while Walker attempts to keep the focus on constitutionally limited government, free markets, and fiscal responsibility.
37:40 no this guy who did the people have gone into the tea party movement from social conservative operations to co-opt the tea party and i get and they're anti gay in a different way we were trying to resist them but this woman you can step tell she is slowly but she didn't set of standing up for herself she's kinda well uh... yes it was kind of holds away everybody says npr again pushing their agenda which is too did marginalize the tea party by bringing in cranks if that a lot of people bitched about this cranks like brian fisher uh... were brought in to as spokespeople when they're not really spokes people that the npr folks and then use that as leverage against the tea party so well this is where it's headed you know i think it is what's gonna happen and this is what you get when you when you have um... barb public treasure do now a national treasure yes we're asking who they are and who pays the bills and this morning will dip into the debate over what the tea party stands for
38:35 The T in Tea Party stands for taxed enough already. That suggests a movement against big government, but some social conservatives push for their issues too and today we'll hear two perspectives Brian Fisher works on public policy at the American Family Association in Tupelo Mississippi and Toby Marie Walker is co-founder and president of the Waco tea party in Waco Texas Ms. Walker, I want to start with you because you're actively coordinating rallies and so forth What do you do to focus Tea Party activities on particular issues? And what issues do you want to focus on well we focus around three main issues as constitutionally limited government free markets and fiscal responsibility a list miss test that we use is it about taxes or spending did she say a list miss
39:23 Sorry? She said a list-mas test. Yes, she's fair list-mas test. A list-mas test! Free markets and fiscal responsibility. The list-mas test that we use is about taxes or spending and we focus on those issues because that's what we were founded under. When you are holding some kind of meeting or rally, are you up there at the front saying ladies and gentlemen let me just remind you what this is about and what it's not about? Usually we don't have to do that beforehand We do put it out, we do put on our website that this is what the theme of the rally is and you know... we're not the sign police but we ask people to keep it family-friendly And if they show up with a sign about... Who is we, I wonder?
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Brian Fisher, American Family Association Social Agenda
Brian Fisher of the American Family Association explains his involvement in the Tea Party, emphasizing "cultural and social values" such as the right to life and natural marriage. The hosts argue that Fisher's rhetoric is designed to "bust up" the original libertarian nature of the movement by introducing divisive social issues.
40:05 Who is we? She sounds like... We's the, it's like a club. It's like a collective unconscious of the club refers to we. Yeah I don't like that. And if she couple things she says which is when how was founded again goes back to Ron Paul and goes back to fiscal responsibility goes back taxation in the Federal Reserve and its got nothing to do with gay rights or abortion at all but that's not gonna last topic that's off-topic, we don't ask them to remove it. But most people around here they're pretty cooperative. Well let me bring Brian Fisher of the American Family Association into our discussion here from Mississippi and Mr. Fisher what issues have you pressed when you became involved in the Tea Party movement? Well the American Family Association part of why we got involved in this is because we believe the country needs
40:55 not only to be called back to constitutional government, not only back the fiscal responsibility but also the same cultural and social values that were embraced by the founders. What cultural and social values are you thinking of that were embraced by the founders as you put it? They said that the first of the inalienable rights was granted to us by the Creator is their right to life so we believe sanctity of life has got to be central to any genuinely conservative movement belief in a creator and to defending natural marriage and resisting the homosexual... what does it waste any time people goes right to a dozen and if anything is she fights in the little bit by my making the claim that i would which i agree with this is there's not a conservative movement the tea party movement is it is a libertarian movement and every time they pulled out of tea party people about who should be the next president always pick ron paul and the major media including pbs always pushes that to decide
41:55 It's unbelievable. So NPR is in it with these guys to marginalize the Tea Party movement and screw them over with these idiots who come in to just bring in divisive issues that will bust any... Bring a guy like that into any organization and he's gonna just bust it up. He said he's there to bust it up He's like, uh, he's like a union goon who goes in there and starts cracking skulls of scabs And he and he went straight to it No pussy footing around see any it just gets worse and worse as you listen to this That's right at tea party bunch of anti-homo people. Yeah
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Tea Party Leadership Conflict, Marxist Style Co-opting
The hosts highlight a conflict in the NPR interview where Brian Fisher claims Tea Party leaders support his social values, despite Toby Marie Walker stating the movement avoids divisive social issues. They describe Fisher's tactics as "classic Marxist style co-opting" and "Neuro-Linguistic Programming" (NLP) intended to redefine the movement's goals.
42:33 Let me ask you both what kinds of discussions have there been and let's grant that this is a very wide nationwide movement with lots of voices but what kinds of discussions have you followed or been involved in on this question of how deeply involved in social issues the Tea Party movement should be? Well here in Waco, and I know most of the national groups we don't touch on the social issues. And the reason that we do not is because right now the Tea Party is about the economy. And while the social issues on a personal level are important to a lot of our members, we stay away from those issue because they're so divisive We believe that there's other groups and we applaud them and when people ask about pro-life issues we send them over to Pro Life Waco or some of the other groups Or if it's a gun issue we send them to NRA or Gun Owners Of America
43:19 We keep it about the taxes and the spending and the overreach of the government. Brian Fisher, The American Family Association? What do you make of that? Well I like what Toby is saying that as a leader in the Tea Party movement they support those values and thats what we think is important. The thing that concerns us if you have leaders in the tea party movement... She didn't say that at all! No she didn't say that at all. She says that when somebody brings it up she shovels them off to some other organization. Yeah and he said the opposite. Brian Fisher, the American Family Association. What do you make of that? Well I like what Toby is saying that as a leader in the Tea Party movement they support those values and that's what we think is important The thing that concerns us if you have leaders... That's an amazing bit of NLP right there That is exactly the way you want to handle this type of situation If your trying to indoctrinate the masses Yeah this is co-opting This is classic Marxist style co-opting I love what your saying there You're absolutely right
44:12 I did. What? Exactly, what?! The Tea Party movement that start rejecting those views... That's the thing that would concern us because then you no longer have a holistic conservative view And i suppose if the tea party were in some way to affect the composition of congress In this November election You would not necessarily be able to claim a mandate for your issues Would ya Well, it depends. You know the people that are providing the grassroots energy for the Tea Party movement they are social conservatives if they start getting a signal from leaders in the Tea Party movement or from Republicans or Conservatives in Congress that they're going to reject those issues there gonna reject those values then the tea party movement is gonna lose a lot of its energy because most of this supplied by people who were not just physical conservatives but social conservatives as well. The social conservatives
The hosts lament the passivity of libertarians in the face of the social conservative takeover of the Tea Party. They jokingly suggest that protesters should dress as Pedobear at Tea Party rallies to highlight the absurdity of the co-opted movement and force a break from the new leadership.
45:00 There's no evidence of that by the way. None whatsoever, this actually makes my stomach churn Yeah It really does... Do we have to listen to more of this jabroni? No, no We can put it back but then we have to go to part two Okay What is part two First you have to examine a situation that already happened when you had these guys These people these social conservatives who don't give a flying... Now social conservative means male-female marriage, no fags It means no gays, no gay marriage. Gays are highly religious Is it only about gays or is there more to it? It tends to be more... A little preoccupied with gays. Yeah really! Wait can I just make a prediction John? Guaranteed. Pete O'Bear linked the tea party. Its gonna happen
45:52 It's going to happen. In fact, I think we have to bust up this faux Tea Party thing and people have to dress up as pedo bear and start walking around in the tea party rallies that will end it real quick. That will end it, seriously think about it's a great way to... You just gave them an idea! No but this is a great way to end the whole stupid co-opted Tea Party thing and just have Beedo Bears walking around It's not completely co-opted yet but they're not fighting back very well because its almost you know it's that same thing in a way oh yeah I can be this way without being that way. Libertarians generally speaking aren't
46:30 very good at being libertarians there they're just kind of passive i mean ron paul is very good about it comes out says the cia took over the country he says we gotta do this together that is very a outspoken but most of them would you know get get cowed by these conservatives uh... who are pushing uh... you know their agenda Alright, what's part two? Okay let's go back now. Here is what happened in 1109 The Tea Party... the co-opted tea party with people like Dick Army and Sarah Palin and the talk show guys I'm going to also include Mark Levin and a few other people in this group. And I'd say Limbaugh too
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New York 23rd District, Doug Hoffman and GOP Infighting
The discussion turns to the 2009 special election in New York's 23rd congressional district, where Tea Party support for Doug Hoffman led to a Democratic victory in a traditionally Republican seat. The hosts criticize Dick Armey and Sarah Palin for ousting a "moderate" Republican (RINO) only to lose the seat, a move later criticized by Karl Rove.
47:09 uh... they're all you know where kind of flabbergasted by the appearance of the tea party and then they went out of their way to turn into a conservative movement as opposed to a anti-tax libertarian right but headed by ron paul you never hear ron paul's name mentioned ever again no you never hear mention limbaugh you know of course i like mark living in every other mentioned by hannity ever no once accepted as a nutcase hannity uh... remember listening to him one time on one of the stock shows with some about the builder burgers he basically hung up on the guess is never heard of never had no idea what that is so anyway so back into eleven or nine day there was a democrat that could it was a democrat new york twenty three is a congressional district run
47:52 by the republicans this is a republican district and so that republicans we're gonna run did this dvd sasco's office goes up five i think sir net last name as c o z eight f eight v a uh... who was a shoe into win the this spot but the tea party guys took it amongst themselves because she's a liberal republican and you can have that so we we we we give them bad names rino republican in name only not really republican cuz you don't follow the checklist at us conservatives have put out for you to check off so they decided to dig up his guide doug hoffman i got kind of a you know about an extreme loser and they've been dick army the tea party
48:34 the co-op to tea party led by sarah palin the talk show guys every one of these guys push this guy in overscore discusses stuck died maybe she should know what you can pronounce your name but they'd big i got her out to indicate so they could run against this is democrat in a republican congressional area that has never been democratic i don't think for a hundred years the democrat one right so that these all these guys come off to well you know it wasn't because of this guy was in that case or anything else uh... we actually consider this a victory and they made all these arguments, there's all these articles written during the era of this period with Dick Armey and all those other guys talking about what a great victory it was because it shows that they were powerful enough to oust the regular Republican I guess. And give their seat to the Democrat! Whose side are you on? Yeah really good win guys So now they've turned against Karl Rove who has pointed this out
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Christine O'Donnell Delaware Senate Race, Dick Armey Interview
The hosts discuss Christine O'Donnell's Senate primary win in Delaware, labeling her a "religious crazy person" for her past comments on masturbation. They also critique an interview between Dick Armey and Jon Stewart, where Armey appeared confused about his own book, "The Tea Party Manifesto," and its alleged similarities to Karl Marx's writings.
49:27 and on almost every talk show they have Roe saying this is crazy to run this woman in Delaware. Get to it John because you're losing me. Okay, well anyway so the Tea Party has placed about 10 people in these key areas that were given to the Republicans Senate seats that should go to the Republicans they've ousted obvious person that would win under all circumstances and put in some tea party person including complete crackpots like this woman in Delaware who made the public statement that masturbation is adultery. She's a religious... No, no! That's only if you use your left hand. She's a religious crazy person who... Duh! Come back. Or they got rid of him they don't want to... I lost you for a second. This whole thing is a disaster
50:23 Alright, we're back. Yeah I lost you for a second okay whole thing is a disaster they obviously did They don't want to win now they've turned on Karl Rove there You know the genius and it the whole thing has been Co-opted by these screwballs And it all stems back to this operation out of Sacramento called the Tea Party Express Which is another opting operation are we gonna play these dick army clips now? Play the Dick Army clip one at that Dick Army went on The John Stewart Show I think he was hammered good is the same age exactly as nancy pelosi but he sounded hammered to me but this little bit at the beginning kinda got to me just tell everyone who dick army is it army is a former heavy-duty politico that's that's one of these guys has taken over the tea party is that those his he is an old day yet did head of their dad uh... republican party at uh... house representatives out of texas for years and years in years now is claiming to be this tea party guy
51:21 and he said he's the same age as nancy pelosi sounds like it on a years older because i think is hammered but just listen to see get a new book out called the tea party manifesto or something that just list this little no gotcha in this thing uh... i want to talk about this is a give us liberty liberty and it is uh... a manifesto which will close to marks that was a very happy carl marx i heard He says it sounds like Karl Marx and then Armie says I wasn't really happy about that. Wait a minute, isn't this your book? Who wrote it?! I wasn't real happy about it! Well then why did you let it go on what's what who wrote this thing then?
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The Army Curve, Tea Party Express and Iraq War
Dick Armey's "Army Curve" is mocked as a derivative of the Laffer Curve during his slurred interview with Jon Stewart. The hosts also link the Tea Party Express to a pro-war operation in Sacramento, suggesting the entire movement is being manipulated to keep the political establishment in power regardless of party.
52:01 so i thought immediately got suspicious ok and then at the rest of this thing they never talked about anything this is a one of the worst interviews steward ever did and this guy just play clip to you know just see that guy sounds like he's in the kinship isn't it can the camera mean the guy has two sheets to the wind three-foot starts with uh... what appears to be an arithmetic formula lower taxes plus less government equals more freedom for that as the uh... there's no nothing about It would lead me to believe that for maximum freedom, you would want no taxes and no government. How close am I to what you are?
52:41 Actually, you're really bordering on the edge of what is called the army curve because there is a question and it's being addressed in debate across the world. Right. Isn't that the laugher curve? The lower... Lowering the text. No no no, not the laugher curve It's kind of old-fashioned this is like real good stuff Oh okay, the Army Curve. Yeah, that's new Fair enough They've got a better name Yeah, Army No, they're no laughing at the Army Curve No But at any rate, uh Damn Anyway, it goes on like that. There's no point in May just kind of slurring his way through the whole interview Wow! The Tea Party Express by the way seems to me to be a pro-war operation run out of Sacramento they most of the guys are somehow involved in someway shape or form there is good article in Salon Magazine about this in promoting the Iraq war
53:26 including running photos of how calm things look now in Baghdad that turned out to be pictures taken inside of Istanbul. So let's helicopter it up for a second, John what is the point? To what end all this? Is this a reboot of the Republican Party? Just put some more in there and mix I mean its all clearly run by the same people There no difference between... It's to keep the Democrats in power Right Which really doesn't make any difference because it's all the same people anyway. Well, it is to some point but at the other... Not really I don't think so not really well It is when they have both houses of Congress and they can just do whatever they want and they come up with cap-and-trade You don't think that has something that that's important? Of course no Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying if you're a Republican for cap-and-trade What's your best bet keep the Democrats in right right right right
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Haiti Disaster Capitalism, Mother Jones Report
Referencing an article from Mother Jones, the hosts discuss "disaster capitalism" in post-earthquake Haiti. They describe how refugees are being cleared from private land to make way for industrial work zones and business interests, fulfilling predictions made shortly after the January 2010 disaster.
54:25 Off the tea party. Yeah, so two articles about Haiti which again if if you watch CNN and Fox and MSN CNBC and MSN BC and ABC And all of the entertainment that they deliver to you You won't hear any of this and I will this was predicted from the moment the earthquake hit and of course I'm a firm believer that this was a created earthquake and have some stuff about that in the second part of the show. This is from Mother Jones, which i always hold in relatively high regard They have a whole article which you can find on the show notes at noagendashow.com And uh... The title it is Hades Disaster Capitalists Swoop In! Here it is this is exactly what we talked about
55:14 And the whole article is how Haitians who are in tent camps are being thrown off of privately owned land while businesses eager to slurp up the spoils of disaster are swooping in to score major paydays by moving the refugees to new camps some set to operate as industrial work zones and no one is stopping it. I like the term, industrial work zone, it's really good. No, disaster capitalist. Disaster capitalist well and here's a show title. And here's a fine example this is from The Globe & Mail an Argentine energy in agribusiness entrepreneur on Monday announced plans
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Port-au-Prince Airport Hotel, Mevs Family and World Bank
Plans for a 240-room business hotel at the Port-au-Prince airport are detailed, involving Argentine businessman Rolando Gonzales Bunster and the Mevs family's Win Group. The project seeks financing from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, which the hosts view as the corporate exploitation of the ravaged nation.
55:57 with a Haiti-based business group to build a 240 room business hotel in the earthquake ravaged Haitian capital. Yay! The project for Haiti's first airport hotel, scheduled to break ground in Port-au-Prince by the end of the year and completed in 18 months will be the first big new investment in the hospitality sector since the January 12th earthquake that killed up to 300 thousand people in the poor Caribbean nation It's beautiful. So the project brings together Argentine businessman Rolando Gonzales Bunster, who is Basic Energy Limited... Ooh! Do you think he is an oil guy? ...is a major player in Dominican Republic power sector and The Win Group run by the Mevs family which operates the biggest private cargo shipping terminal and industrial park in Haiti Fantastic I love it so there it is
56:58 The planned seven-story hotel was being designed by Florida based OBM International would have conference facilities to accommodate up to 400 people. Great! And... They're looking for financing from multilateral lenders like the World Bank's International Finance Corporation and the Inter-American Development Bank. This is exactly what we predicted, John! The only thing that's missing is the sign Clinton Inc. Yeah, well you haven't seen Clinton come in... He'll be back in a minute. He was sneaking into the back door on this deal Well it does say there were no immediate plans to ask a major hotel brand to run the hotel but project leaders did not rule out future discussions
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Hillary Clinton 2012 Speculation, Carla Bruni Book
The hosts discuss rumors that John Kerry might replace Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, allowing her to challenge Barack Obama in 2012. They also mention a "tell-all" book by Carla Bruni claiming Michelle Obama finds being First Lady "hell," suggesting the Obamas are ready to leave the White House.
57:37 Hilton yeah, so there you go. It's it's exactly know they they flipped on the earthquake machine They ruined this country and then the oil companies that energy companies move in build great hotels. It's gonna rock Awesome awesome awesome And if this is the type of information you like receiving we need your help because When we need to pay bills and we're pretty much doing this full- I'm doing this full time now. So let's do one more clip before we go into our pitch, because i want to stay on this side of the nutty part of the show. Okay so there's a rumor that John Kerry is going to be a new secretary of state Oh which of course makes total sense because Hillary Clinton has to run for president
58:24 and he'll say so we're stuff the other day and dick morris on one of these shows i think it may have been handed to something that had this clip where he actually discusses this when we have course of have brought this up since day one of that we've been talking about this for years a hillary's gonna only do this temporarily so she can get makers she he she only has one shot at becoming president right now is in twenty fourteen Because she after that she's just too old. I mean, she's too old already 2014 what about 2012? I mean 2012 Yeah Okay, got my dates all screwed up 2012 is your last shot cuz then after that it's gonna be is not no not gonna work here
59:01 And she's gonna be out of the limelight and this is gonna be in it. This is the perfect setup She's she's uh, she's in touch with all the world leaders She is the she's always in the Oval Office with Obama You know we know he's gonna quit that's obvious It's gonna quit like oh well i do know that there's a bunch of interesting means coming out about that to the daily mail just ran an article which will have she links to in the show and i saw that about carla bruni apparently bruny is written it tell all book and as she had a conversation with uh... missus obama and uh... she said she hates being the first lady this is miserable credits are able you gotta be geared for that job yet you don't get on get to cook your own meals
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National Debt as Security Threat, Clinton vs Obama
Hillary Clinton's statement that rising national debt is a "national security threat" is interpreted by the hosts and commentator Dick Morris as a "shot across the bow" against President Obama. This comment came immediately after Obama announced a new $500 billion stimulus plan, signaling a potential rift in the Democratic Party.
59:43 You have a show to do anything. There's people around all the time you can't hang out with your friends You have to run off to Spain, and then you still have Secret Service. Yeah? Oh it's horrible It's just horrible you get that big 747 drop like two million dollars on that trip to Spain most of the taxpayers money. Yes alright She doesn't buy jet fuel let me tell you right now got $100 million now the Obamas they're hugely wealthy They're wealthy. They're rich, rich rich rich I tell ya! Good job Barack you did it let's go fuck off Okay so Dick Morris has got a little commentary here we'll listen to Close, right? Oh intimate. Okay she invited me to the wedding but there was powder on the outside of the envelope so you didn't open it. You would have wound up in a bottom of Hudson River. Alright few months ago she made a comment on the economy from her perch as Secretary of State saying look bad economies hurting America all over the world now she's made another comment about it. Roll tape. Our rising debt levels
1:00:45 poses a national security threat. And it poses a national security threat in two ways, um... It undermines our capacity to act uh... in our own interests and it does constrain us where constraint may be undesirable uh... and also- What does that mean? Where constraint means the undesirable. It doesn't mean anything, it's just gobbledygook. Okay. Sends a message of weakness internationally Now that comes one day...one day after Barack Obama announces a 500 billion dollar stimulus spending bill that would ratchet up the debt even further! Accident? No no accident at all its nothing she does is an accident Beth
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Historical Primary Challenges, Hillary Clinton's Political Strategy
Dick Morris compares a potential Clinton challenge to Bobby Kennedy's 1968 run against Lyndon Johnson. The hosts argue that Clinton's move to the State Department was a strategic play to avoid a Senate voting record that could be dissected, contrasting her position with that of Mitt Romney.
1:01:29 This, I believe is the opening size shot. The first shot in the Democratic primary of 2012 That's not to say it certain that she'll run but it is to say that she's moving in that direction If Obama gets massacred on election day which I think his people will I like that phrase too Massacred! That's nice! He'l get massacred It was like shades of Bobby Kennedy there Be the biggest drought you can imagine and if that sends his poll numbers cascading downwards then I think there will in fact be a spontaneous grassroots democratic demand for new leadership. So, a primary challenge like Ted Kennedy did to Jimmy Carter? That would be bloody though! Well more like what Bobby did to Linda Johnson yeah. Bobby Kennedy-Linda Johnson in 1968 The Ted Kennedy fight was not as much motivated by feeling that Carter was failing as by feeling that he was too centrist which is hard to believe now
1:02:25 But I think that there's a real chance of that happening. I said that very early on and as i said on your show last time we both know Bill, that her sense of integrity and loyalty would preclude a candidacy. Oh come on Boris! These cheap shots are you taking at the woman? Stop it! If she decides to challenge... So uh Morris always does have to get a cheap shot in Everybody's predicting it, so we're not the only ones on this bandwagon. Except we talked about it what a year ago? No I think over two years ago unbelievable. When she first got that job we knew it was a stepping stone, yeah she had to stay in the you know she was better off for one thing she had to get out of the Senate because the longer you stay in the Senate the least your less likely Obama got in because the senate is as a national voting record that people can point too uh... as opposed if you're a governor you know they you could have saved the state and did they don't really dissect your voting records so much cuz it doesn't have an effect on anybody but the locals
1:03:25 and uh... so you have a situation like uh... bob romney for example you did nobody knows what is voting record is that they needed health care some like that in massachusetts how does this lead into our pitch it doesn't look at least into his the but i don't think it does well thanks i had a nice setup and then he take us off the track with more fox crap I want to hear that. Well, I just wanted people to know that we're this is the kind of things that we follow yeah We follow about 20 things and Hillary's one of them And if you need to follow Hillary you could do worse than listening to us All right Let's thank some people who have supported our show This is unlike either national treasures around the world which are public broadcasters or as we call it here now boy, I can see my Connection is breaking up here
The hosts explain their "value-for-value" funding model, contrasting it with the commercial nature of NPR. They read letters from donors like Sir John Smith and John Little, who are contributing to reach knighthood, and prepare to play birthday jingles for the community.
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1:05:53 donated another hundred dollars saying against being born on constitution day let me somewhat predisposed to being no agenda listener card-carrying libertarian all around crackpot that said happy constitution day and can i get a birthday jingle as they turn forty three on nine seventeen will do that shortly when this is for who uh... john smith okay now he's on the list it will be at the second yes uh... john little who also gave that cdm two donations and this was for a hundred so i guess he wanted to be uh... mentioned in this segment mcgee mississippi says my second underdog donation and i would love to become a knight can I do it by donating a hundred bucks when i can if so should I do my own accounting yes,yes and yes. Yes you have the numbers on our spreadsheets in our records but you do the accounting we check it as opposed to us having to plow through all this stuff out of the blue and that you want to get two thousand let us know Eden Anderson Oakland California seventy three thirty seven uh... That's leet!
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Listener Donations, MS Humor and De-douching
The show continues with donor shout-outs, including a 16th birthday wish for Tamara Davis and a donation from a listener with multiple sclerosis who uses self-deprecating humor. The hosts explain show jargon like "de-douching" for new listeners, comparing the show's unique culture to eating Marmite.
1:06:55 Is that leet? It's leet for elite. Leet! Oh, elite it's cool yeah a little hacksaw ladies and gentlemen My husband 10 Halsey is a big no agenda fan he is oft oft hmm old-fashioned use of the word repeating your jingles and chuckling to himself this is what happens with our jingle I think you should get some help thirty seven birthdays this sunday enhance the seventy three thirty seven donation can you wish me happy birthday during your september nineteenth show thanks This is the David Dolson Houston, Texas or housed in Texas as we are New York City 6666 please wish a special 16th birthday to Tamara Davis on the 16th and good karma birthdays to me David on the 19th We both enjoy this show you get no I think everyone's gonna get call out today Yeah Everyone gets an especially enjoys the catchy jingles another jingle lover here. We go That's one of our catchy jingles Tony it
1:07:58 Anthony, Tony Everett. Teague Gardens NSW Australia Thanks to John I'm now on my way to knighthood! to buy my name back loving the show 52 double nickels on the dime right Steve Biro London Ontario Bureau beer Oh beer oh he's 50 double niggles and I please de douche me I'm calling you've been D douched it's calling out Steve Quinton as a douche bag for not having yet donated uh... in the morning and represent for a large and fifty two fifty two donation from the hotty with the crippled body please dd's at deed did you do justice is deduced use that if he can do sh Andrew ever since then
1:08:52 I always like it when people who are crippled make fun of themselves like that. He has multiple sclerosis, the heart with a crippled body. Which is terrible by the way Yeah of course it's terrible but I love it when he has that kind of humor. No no he's good guy and he's been de-dooched. Dewshack? Now I can't say because this word deuce. Deuced. By the way people just listening to show for the first time and they hear all these jingles You know, after a while you'll love it. Yeah it just takes a while to get used to its kind of like... Like when you first listen to Jim Rome talking about sports they got all this jargon that's only- thats just in their world It's like eating Marmite
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International Donors, Knighthood Ceremony for Scott Denny
Donations from New Zealand and Australia are acknowledged before the hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for Scott Denny. Denny is dubbed a "Knight in the Order of the Mint" for his purchase of a challenge coin, granting him a seat at the "No Agenda Roundtable."
1:09:31 or worse kevin alcock christ church in new zealand uh... talking about marmite well that'd be vegemites are a little different fifty one twenty nine one-time donation to anthony benson righted talking about your dad you might ride new south wales fifty one eleven eyes tony benson hailing from quaker seal in sydney earthquake machine capital of the world we're currently shipping a machine out the adam's crackpot tower and here he who are is your pre warning for the next little jolt I really hate listening to your conspiracy theories and think your opinions are crazy, and that's why can't wait for the next show.
1:10:10 that yes we have those types redstone of course uh... knighthood uh... on his way to a night would add chris slowinski sherwood park alberta canada fifty dollars and that's our donors for this week okay group let's do the birthdays Okay, I think it got him covered John Sir John Smith turns 43 in the 17th Eden Anderson's his happy birthday to Ted Halsey turns 37 on the 19th David Dolson says happy birthday to Tamara Davis turning 16 today and he celebrates his own birthday on the 19th Tanya Foster wants to wish her husband Jeff a very happy birthday and
1:10:57 Let's see if we got David. Yeah, that's it everybody happy birthday from your friends here at no agenda And we need to do a couple of night yeah, let me get mine now yeah, that's yours alright mm-hmm Okay Could we please have Scott Denny step forward and kneel sleep Scott? You have been chosen as a Knight in the Order of the Mint due to your purchase of No Agenda Challenge coin at noagendafans.com Therefore, we proudly and solemnly bring you into The Roundtable by pronouncing thee Sir Scott Denny Knight in the Order of the Mint Of The NO AGENDA ROUNDTABLE Please come on over to The Roundtable Enjoy your hookers and blow
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Sir C Chase McCarthy Knighthood, DARPA Brain Stimulation
C Chase McCarthy is knighted following a $1,000 donation. The hosts then transition to a report from Wired regarding DARPA research into remote brain stimulation systems designed to help soldiers ignore extreme heat or stress by manipulating neural circuits.
1:11:53 And then we have, uh... Let's pull out the long one. The longer swords for this one, John. Yeah that looks good okay. See Chase McCarthy and Neil Sleev You too just like all other knights shall soon receive the coveted no agenda in the morning knight ring Yes they are real and they are being made But not until we have knighted thee, thanks to your donation of at least $1,000. We now dub thee Sir C Chase McCarthy Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable! Hookers and Blow here for you. There ya go Wow okay thanks everybody for your support to Dvorak dot org slash N A um
1:12:43 It's what keeps the show going. I'm telling you right now, Paul Couture is keeping a lot of the show going. Yeah, Paul Couture is our patron of the year He's really making it happen So its like noagendashow.com and go there and go to channeldvorak.com slash NA or dvorak dot org slash na take a look at our current offers There are a few new ones on there and you know get a five dollar subscription if nothing else we actually are kinda stagnant with the $5 subscriptions it's kind of annoying. We're being supported by these big donors and that's what long-term is really gonna work yeah we'd like to get some more those, that would be better not better but just it would be good thing because then we could fall back on it. Summertime was very slow Big donors die off eventually literally they just die
1:13:32 Well, they also by the way if you're if you thinking of dying put us in your will that'll work too. Yeah That's what PBS is doing now. Oh really? Oh, that's a good one That's our local thing has got and they have these people I gotta get a couple clips of this They got these people, you know, I we have no children and PBS or PBS We've given all our money to them yet well, that's what you should do only give it to us because that would help that would really help us My God! Yeah, because we're not getting anything from the Koch brothers. No... Okay so John I read this article in Wired which actually and Gadget posted it they just stole the reporting basically didn't even link to Wired Oh really? They are supposed to link yeah they did not can find a link anywhere about DARPA The department was it Defense Advanced Research and Development yeah yeah that's right about coming up with some kind of
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Killing Joke Lyrics, GWEN Towers and Weather Control
Inspired by the lyrics of the band Killing Joke, the hosts discuss the "GWEN" (Ground Wireless Emergency Network) towers. They explore theories that these 200 towers, built in the 1990s, could be used in conjunction with HAARP for weather modification or atmospheric manipulation.
1:14:30 Mmm system that will Remote control soldiers minds. Oh good Yeah, so that it's a would kind of like its stimulates the brain circuits So that if it's like if you're in 130 degree heat in the desert You'll feel nice and cool and you won't mind until your job yeah? So I start looking around and it was actually there's a do remember the band killing joke about No, okay. So they had a hit in like 86 called love like blood and They've been around for a long long time I think British band and they're coming out with the new album so read this someone sent me this article About this ban And I really didn't realize that their lyrics even back in in 86 were very anti New World Order Hit him-in-the-mouth type stuff you know at the time? I was of course completely mind control myself and living in the hits
1:15:22 So I'm reading through all these songs and they got some pretty amazing lyrics. A lot of the music is crap to listen to, unfortunately but at the very end he mentions this thing called The Gwen Towers Have you ever heard of The Gwen Towers? It rings a bell! Is that the weather control system? Well, The Gwen Towers stands for ground... I think it's ground wireless emergency network. Oh yeah, okay so radio system. And these were towers that were set up in the 90s and there are 200 of them stretched across the United States
1:16:09 and they're at between 350 and 500 feet, and they broadcasts it about 400 megahertz. Some of them in a much lower frequency but that of course is what the whole conspiracy is about but I've really started reading about these so there's a lot of research has gone into these towers that not only do they possibly work with harp to control weather and there's this fabulous, I mean there is just too much documented about this to even go into it on the show. We'll be talking about it for an hour but how in the atmosphere above us like in clouds and condensation in the air there are actually rivers of water streaming above us does that make any sense what I'm saying?
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Atmospheric Rivers, ELF Systems and Mind Control
The hosts discuss "rivers of water" in the atmosphere and how Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) systems might influence them to cause floods, such as those in Pakistan. They further speculate that these frequencies can interact with the human brain's Schumann resonance to broadcast subliminal messages or control moods.
1:17:10 Well, if you want to look at the Unisys, this would be the search you want. It's called I think it is Unisys Purdue, University of Purdue, Unisys Purdue satellite and they have one satellite that looks like...it is called the water vapor. right and it is looks like it's not like a river by any means but is this with the concentration of water in the atmosphere apparently does flow in certain directions Yeah, no you can see it wriggling around. They have a 20-12 hour loop you can put on and you can see it going but It's all over the place right? No not its all over the world so the hypothesis is that these types of systems Can be flipped on and ramped up And then it can just rain like an MF forever never like in Pakistan anyway So that's why I get to this because now I'm reading about
1:18:02 How these frequencies do this are you gonna do this subliminal stuff anymore in the show cuz I'm a Object to it. What do you mean subliminal stuff like in Pakistan? Didn't do its subliminal You were right rapping on one thing then you just dropped in like Pakistan Oh, Pakistan all right. Sorry didn't mean that dude. Yeah. I don't want you to do something $700 Don't know what Okay, so but what's interesting about this and this comes right into the digital TV converter boxes edit these frequencies between 400 and 450 megahertz particularly 435 and 450 and also the and it Cooperates with The 60 Hertz cycle that we have in our power remember in Gitmo nation east they use 50 cycles It's all for different reasons. But the
1:18:53 the bottom line is they can use this vast ELF System and in these antennas are huge by the way, and they're disguised as trees and church towers And all kinds of weird things. Yes indeed They can start to put subliminal messages into your mind because your mind is nothing more than You know a frequency based device that That is in tune with stuff like the Schumann resonance of the earth which is 7.8 Hertz And it's really amazing. I mean, I'm... I think I'm gonna move off of Harp and into this Gwen stuff
1:19:35 Yeah, I think you should because it's all over the country. It's here these these messages now So anyway so the Gwen towers they cooperate completely with miniature nanotechnology That is they used to put stuff into your teeth like when their cap your teeth You know that's when they'd put a little receiver in now They're doing now they're putting it in the vaccines And it's nanotechnology. This is why they're ramping up the vaccines because then they can use harp and they can use Gwen, and of course add the fluoridation in your water and they can completely control your mood. They can you know... this is why no one complains about anything John because we literally are getting these, we are receiving these signals from
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Nanotechnology in Vaccines, Fluoridation and Signal Reception
A theory is presented suggesting that nanotechnology in vaccines and fluoride in water act as receivers for signals from GWEN and 3G towers. One host claims to be safe from these ground waves by living at a high elevation and using a double reverse osmosis water filtration system.
1:18:53 the bottom line is they can use this vast ELF System and in these antennas are huge by the way, and they're disguised as trees and church towers And all kinds of weird things. Yes indeed They can start to put subliminal messages into your mind because your mind is nothing more than You know a frequency based device that That is in tune with stuff like the Schumann resonance of the earth which is 7.8 Hertz And it's really amazing. I mean, I'm... I think I'm gonna move off of Harp and into this Gwen stuff
1:19:35 Yeah, I think you should because it's all over the country. It's here these these messages now So anyway so the Gwen towers they cooperate completely with miniature nanotechnology That is they used to put stuff into your teeth like when their cap your teeth You know that's when they'd put a little receiver in now They're doing now they're putting it in the vaccines And it's nanotechnology. This is why they're ramping up the vaccines because then they can use harp and they can use Gwen, and of course add the fluoridation in your water and they can completely control your mood. They can you know... this is why no one complains about anything John because we literally are getting these, we are receiving these signals from
1:20:20 the 3G towers. When I'm broken then, is that the deal? No this is why... How come we're not? Because I am at 850 feet! I'm above the tower see these towers don't read they are ground waves they go 500 feet and below so as long as I stay up here at the tower I'm okay and I'm drinking. But when I'm on top of a hill you think it's a five hundred foot hill you think that's the reason I'm safe yeah you're much safer that way and you don't drink the water you don't drink fluoridated water do you I don't know. Generally, I drink carbonated water from Italy Right you don't drink tap water right? Generally no! I do in a restaurant Of course that will... well that.. I mean a little bit of fluoride won't hurt ya But uh...I've got double osmosis...double reversed osmosis filtration system here I'm not drinking the fricking water are you crazy?! So thats why we're all uppity Slave!? So that would bring us right into... Don't be denied The science is in
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Quadruple Dose Flu Vaccines, H1N1 Integration
The CDC's new recommendations for the influenza vaccine are discussed, specifically the introduction of a "high dose" version for seniors that contains four times the standard amount of antigen. The hosts note that the H1N1 strain is now integrated into the seasonal shot, despite previous claims that the vaccines should not be mixed.
1:21:16 There is a huge push for the vaccines once again. I mean just undeniable and of course this is early Did you see that did you see the photo that Grumet got? Yeah, it's no no It was called high dose flu vaccine for seniors. I thought was a double or double dose No, it's quadruple! I checked it. I looked at the CDC website Why would the seniors need to kill you off to kill you quicker Of course now here's here's the list So first of all CNN comes out with popular people get the flu first because you know, you're popular. Because they're kissing everybody. You're kissing everybody exactly so that's why popular people...You've got to lead the pack and you've gotta go and you gotta get your flu shot and then of course because you're poplar everybody is going to follow you this CDC is back
1:22:06 and they have their complete ACIP recommendations for the influenza vaccine. The flu shot this year will include H1N1 vaccine from last year, it's probably the same crap that just threw it in there and they are indeed saying that old people 65 and over so you're lucky John under-the-wire That old people will have to get the high dose flu vaccine which is four times the amount! Four times I tell you Pregnant women urge to get flu shots. Hold on a second, wait a minute... You're telling me that the H1N1 is in the shot? Yes! How can that be?! Last year they told us specifically that you couldn't mix them and you had to take the H1N1 shot twice Nooo it's not- now its just mixed right IN there its all perfect That doesn't make any sense Oh really
1:23:00 And they're pushing the whooping cough vaccine as well, which by the way is called pertussis. So don't be confused when it's the same thing and then in Gitmo Nation East of course they're ramping it up there as well doctors warn over homeopathic quote vaccines Homeopaths are offering alternative vaccinations which doctors say could leave patients vulnerable to potential fatal diseases. So if you take some homeopathic medicine, which is not a vaccine but it's just some herbs...
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Mandatory Vaccines for Health Workers, Indiana Pharmacist Rejection
The American Academy of Pediatrics is pushing for mandatory flu shots for healthcare workers. Meanwhile, Lynn's Pharmacy in Brazil, Indiana, has stopped offering the flu vaccine after 20 years, with the pharmacist citing concerns over the high dosage for seniors and the close relationship between the WHO, CDC, and vaccine manufacturers.
1:23:37 uh... but they call it a vaccine now like are you are they injecting the of course not of course not this is how did it be any active this is bull crap this is the bbc the ministry of truth at work but i there is and if these guys just medical establishment would be honest with the public instead of trying to bamboozle everybody with a buncha dishonest campaigns i don't think they have the problems that their running into seattle times reports flu shots should be mandatory for health care workers according to a policy statement issued recently by the american academy of pediatrics so they're pushing that shit again it's unbuggable. It was the same stories last year this is a re-it took the same playbook, same script yep exactly from last season and they're running the same bogus stories yeah and there's in the course of news media doesn't pick up on the fact that some editor can't look at the story say didn't do it didn't they do this last year? The exact same thing shouldn't we mention that
1:24:33 So there is a little bit of hope and I really thought this was beautiful just to have an end this little segment on the on a positive note. There's in Brazil, Indiana Little mom-and-pop pharmacy, which of course will soon be out of business. I predict a Molotov cocktail or something like that. I just love this old geezer. A Wabash Valley Pharmacy has supplied flu vaccine to the public but this year you'll have to look elsewhere for it. News 10's Kate Green explains why this one pharmacist rejects the shot while others have it well stocked You can spot these signs for shots just about anywhere, but you won't see a sign or even a shot here. Lynn's pharmacy is saying no to the flu vaccine this year after supplying the public with it for more than 20 years I just have some reservations about how effective the flu vaccine really is in keeping people getting the flu Last year's flu frustration left him with doubts about the vaccines For everybody be taking at random
1:25:34 and to be mandated by the government of the state or work place to take it I have issues with that. He says his issues also stem from the World Health Organization and CDC's relationship with a vaccine manufacturers They're very close to the vaccine manufacturers and friendships sometimes tend cloud judgments Lynn says he's concerned about the high dosage for seniors this year The dosage is four times greater than normal because seniors immunity is known to wear off a couple months after the flu vaccine. I don't know if there's going to be more side effects, more flu-like symptoms or results from the shots but most other pharmacies and health departments say that flu shot is one of the best preventative measures you can take. It was really trying to get education out on the flu precautions
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Media Bias in Vaccine Reporting, News 10 Coverage
The hosts analyze a News 10 report on the Indiana pharmacist, pointing out how the reporter misrepresented his statements. They argue the journalist inserted a claim that high-risk groups should get shots, which the pharmacist did not actually say, in order to maintain a pro-vaccine narrative.
1:26:21 encouraging people to get their flu shot, you know as soon as they can. Glenn says he thinks people in the high-risk groups should get a shot but not those who are seemingly healthy This is my gut feeling I don't have any proof I wish they did one way or another but i'm no doing it In the Wabash Valley with photojournalist Nick Notice how he didn't say that notice how we didn't say I think people in high risk groups and should get shots noticed how the reporter said that and he said I don't think this is a good idea Well, go back and play that again. Yeah listen listen listen here it is. Encouraging people to get their flu shot, you know as soon as they can. Glenn says he thinks people in the high-risk groups should get a shot but not those who are seemingly healthy This is my gut feeling I don't have any proof I wish they did one way or the other but i'm not doing it In the wall bash he says he's in fact I'm not doing and I'm not giving out shots and she just fucking lies and says He said you know high risk group should get their shot She lied right there in the report
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DHS Spying on Anti-Drilling Activists, Oil Disaster Prediction
Documents reveal the Pennsylvania Office of Homeland Security has been monitoring activists opposed to natural gas drilling and sharing that data with oil companies. One host predicts a major new oil disaster will occur within the next three weeks, possibly in the North Sea or targeting Norway.
1:27:23 well we don't know that for a fact but then why didn't you put his state is sound like anybody said he's speaking on on on television it as a television reporter you you take the direct quotes from the person yeah dad now the thing that she did take which was a kind of a detrimental quote was all i don't have any proof and nothing home just guess i'm just stupid and this little adhesive yelping so uh... it wasn't by us report what's your knowledge east unbelievable right um... quicker Quick ditty here on the oil cabal, two things. One important piece of news. So news has now come out that the U.S Department of Homeland Security has been spying on people who don't like gas drilling and handing that data to the oil companies. Well really? Oh yes! Documents from the Pennsylvania Office of Homeland Security
1:28:16 have come out and the links to it in the show notes, noagendershow.com they've been tracking at least traffic to websites so you can bet that they've been looking at us yeah but if they want to look at us they can listen to this show by the way donate! donate you guys! we're not your oil companies The local state Homeland Security Director James Power said the oil companies needed to have all the data because there have been five to ten incidents of vandalism around the state related to the natural gas industry. So you know this is critical infrastructure so we had to give them the data on these people who have been posting messages on websites. Oh I like that rationale, it's good
1:28:59 Critical infrastructure. I love these guys Yeah, so let me tell you one thing You know that I have plenty of people inside the oil cabal who do listen to the show Although yeah, you're right they should donate some of them. I think donate Anonymously because they get a big kick out of us talking about them Within the next two to three weeks you can expect another oil disaster and So that means another accident is coming. You heard it here first on no agenda write it down in your little notebook John Hold on because this is from today Today's the 16th yeah, cuz it's from its from From sources and this will help us determine if our sources are correct I think there's a possibility you said what two weeks three weeks within three weeks so There's a possibility that it could be the North Sea which I think would be amazing now You've probably seen on C-Span John um I don't know if you've been watching
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Cyclone Fear Weather Report, Cuba and Gulf of Mexico
The hosts mock a weather report where an anchor asks about "Cyclone Fear" south of Cuba, a term the meteorologist seems unfamiliar with. They suggest this was a scripted "Ministry of Truth" injection regarding a storm that did not yet exist, potentially linked to weather modification efforts in the Gulf.
1:29:55 but I have BP talking about blowout preventers on their deep sea drilling in the North Sea so it could be the North Sea. I think they're going to target Norway, that's my prediction. Norway is good because they are not in the European Union those slaves need to be taught a lesson and they've got tons of oil in Norway however I caught this little ditty and listen to this crap what was this? morning show. Let's listen to it. This is the weather report, listen to the anchor as he comes back and throws out a ministry of truth and The Weatherman is actually caught off guard and then remembers the script Oh yeah that's right. Hey Alex really quickly tell us about this cyclone fear to the south of Cuba
1:30:53 I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. The cyclone is fear of this storm that's organizing south of Cuba That's a cyclone that could start messing around. Have you heard anything about a cyclone fear John? Have you heard anything about a cyclone? No! I never heard anything about a cyclone. Hey, you're weatherman. You forgot to tell us about this member the psych cyclone Cyclone you got the memo of a cyclone? Cuba Cuba oil Cyclones alone fear to the south of Cuba I'm sorry I didn't hear you what the cyclone is fear of this storm that's organizing South of Cuba That's a cyclone that could start messing around with things in the Gulf Oh
1:31:37 Right, yes. There's actually an area of disturbed weather as you mentioned there in the Caribbean It's actually not really forming just yet it's really good. It actually doesn't exist just yet It's actually fake trying to get its act together should bring quite heavy rain to some of those areas We'll keep monitoring it may have a run on the Yucatan so heading towards Mexico and eventually And we're talking about by the weekend maybe getting into the southern Gulf of Mexico but plenty of time to watch that all All right, so a thing that doesn't exist that he can't show on the map this cyclone He already knows what direction it's gonna go. I mean please That to me is the there is a tropical storm? That was that was I guess is what they're talking cyclone Please a cyclone is a cyclone It's not like a little weather disturbance that could cause some rain
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Spain General Strike, Commonwealth Games in New Delhi
A general strike is scheduled for September 29th in Spain as the "World Cup high" wears off. Meanwhile, preparations for the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi are described as a disaster, with reports of dengue fever, stagnant ponds, and a campaign to forcibly remove beggars and the disabled from the streets.
1:32:29 That was a total weather modification injection. Whatever it was, I just think it was incompetent boneheads. But Norway seems to be a target to me. Yeah, I agree because actually... and putting this on the prediction i'm just gonna miss it did to fine-tune the predictions at norway five k cd yeah ads nor way okay hey uh... so it's been a couple months after uh... spain was given not just the world cup win but that you were too from swin and they want something else they wanna whole bunch of things
1:33:10 To keep the slaves quiet and tell them to shut up, but it's wearing off General strike September 29th in Gitmo Nation castanets. So it's all over now Well work for a while for awhile It worked for a while well But I don't know what once you find you can't afford the bread We can eat hairs about that World Cup we can't eat and The Commonwealth Games will be held in Gitmo nation curry this year which is India in New Delhi and they're throwing the beggars off the streets to clean it all up. Well that's gonna take a while Let me see if I can...I got, I gotta report here this is pretty funny because its like all messed up there's mosquitoes their cesspools you know the whole place has one big poop pit
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ICE Counterfeit Crackdown, Fake Sports Merchandise and Batteries
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in New Orleans seized over $210,000 in counterfeit sports merchandise. The hosts highlight the absurdity of the seizure, which included 477 counterfeit Duracell batteries and fake John Deere hats, questioning if this is the best use of Homeland Security resources.
1:34:01 Which it looks like. Used as medical facilities at the Games Village Well another day and another mess of the Commonwealth games preparation What is the Commonwealth Games? Is that another scam? No, the Commonwealth Games have been around for a long time They began as an alternative to the Olympics But you had to be in the British Empire Okay let's hear how this is going Now is that bad planning or what? Bad planning! The village is open from today but the first athletes aren't due there for another week Yesterday's heavy rain forced a temporary stop to the mosquito eradication program. 78 new cases of dengue fever have been reported and there are now more ponds for the disease-carrying mosquitoes to breed in All the other venues have now been declared ready to open While they may be functional, at this stage they're certainly not beautiful
1:34:53 Authorities want a clean look around the city and have started a campaign to get rid of beggars so visitors don't see them. They're pulling people up off the street who have like broken legs and you know are crippled, and they're throwing them into buses like let's clean out the street get rid of them cripple slaves. Send them to Mumbai! Get rid of them cripples slaves, get rid of it. It's just beautiful in our own Gitmo nation This was really great. What is ICE for, John? What is their job? Well I've always wondered but there seemed to be like the INS well it's the enforcement officer. Yes well ICE stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement and I thought they were INS as well but they've been doing very important work
1:35:45 SHI, a new acronym for you, Homeland Security Investigation Special Agents in New Orleans have redoubled their efforts to enforce counterfeiting laws and have recently seized fake sports merchandise and other counterfeit consumer products from city vendors. Working with investigators for the NFL and other professional sports leagues ice HSI special agents along with officers offices from US Customs and Border Protection And local law enforcement have investigated multiple vendors in seas more than 1,400 counterfeit hats t-shirts and jerseys worth approximately $210,000 we're doing important work. And John catch this 477 counterfeit Duracell batteries Oh No
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U.S. Marshals TV Shows, Cell Phone Remote Activation
The hosts discuss the portrayal of U.S. Marshals in new TV shows like "The Chase" and "Dark Blue." They highlight a scene from "Dark Blue" that depicts the remote activation of a cell phone microphone to listen to conversations, a capability the hosts have long claimed exists under the Patriot Act.
1:36:30 Counterfeit Duracell batteries? Who goes through the trouble of counterfeiting batteries?! What kind of market is that!? What kind of bonehead... Listen to this! ...doesn't think it's a good idea. Counterfeit NASCAR and John Deere merchandise, oh yes I can't wait to buy me a John Deere hat counterfeit so this is what Homeland Security is doing? I would like somebody to put up a website showing all the enforcement agencies that are out there they can actually you know bust into your place we have so many law enforcement agencies that are just overlapping each other. I'm surprised they're not killing each other more often yeah, they should be shooting each other right now the marshals that we talked about because there's new show coming up which makes no sense
1:37:18 Or there's just called the chase on NBC. Yeah, it's just some woman chasing people Then that's about it we talked about that right? We got a couple of right we have a clip We had a clip we did got a couple of notes from people saying look Actually, we have some marshals that listen to this show apparently and like it yeah Like our show a lot and are gonna get us free cars at the next auction We're trying to get some cards, that'd be a good deal. Anyway so the marshals apparently is another weird operation they one of the jobs that they are assigned apparently which was what the show's about is to chase
1:37:56 fugitives around who apparently no other enforcement agency can catch. It's like the last, it's like a collection agency nobody can get your money you know so they said okay what are we gonna do long shot give it to the collection agency and then they'll take half of it if they can get any money at all and so apparently that the marshals are given this assignment Who produces Dark Blue? Is this show on TNT is another cop show Haven't seen a dark blues and I think is a new show isn't it? Yeah, so someone sent me a clip And I'm convinced that whoever's producing that show listens to no agenda. I could give it away only giveaway half There's two two of our means are in this one clip actually three if you include bad acting
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Vajazzling Meme, Cell Phone Microphone Bugs
In a bizarre transition, the TV show "Dark Blue" follows a segment on high-tech surveillance with a discussion of "vajazzling" (applying Swarovski crystals to the pelvic area). The hosts laugh at the juxtaposition and discuss the practical limitations of using cell phones as bugs when they are buried in pockets or bags.
1:38:44 One is turning on your cell phone by remote to listen into your conversation. But then right on the heels of that, I can't even tell you...I want you to listen to the clip. Write a memo. You said we had ears on this? Ears?! A wire! How are we supposed to hear what they're talking about? This is agent Kevin Phillips, could you patch me in the monster to our cell phone? Hear that as an agent run Phillips. Can you patch me into the cellphone? So he's like yeah No problem will just flip on the guys cellphone no problem will do that
1:39:21 It's a good system. How do you do that? Wire room is tapped into sitar cell phone. We can activate it without sitar knowing and use the cellphone microphone as a bug Okay, so we got that one right? We got yeah We can tap into the cell phone with item no on use the cellphone microphone is a listening device now listen what happens In the next 20 seconds Oh security bro, we got James Bond tech and the Patriot Act what more do you need you totally should have done this
1:40:13 I don't know, what's it called again? A what? A Vajazzle. I am telling you cannot just get a Brazilian anymore it looks boring! So what they stick jewels around it? Swarovski crystals?! I don't get it... Is that like a joke towards us they go from listening in on your cell phone to vajazzling? We wish. In one clip? That's amazing! Well somebody-I mean yeah I think they have the same sources and but a lot of writers do listen to this material. Hell yeah But let me give-let me mention something to people You have and I have, we've all had opportunities to listen in on somebody's cell phone when they've accidentally butt dialed us. Oh yeah! Love it 99.9% of the time all you hear is... You can't hear anything It's in their pocket, its in their shirt, it's in their jacket The cell phone isn't usually sitting in the middle of the conference table Yeah, yeah, you cant even here that
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Luke Angel US Ban, Fingerprint Meal Trackers in Schools
A British teenager, Luke Angel, was banned from the U.S. after sending an insulting email to the White House. In Arkansas, schools are implementing "Meal Tracker" systems that require students to scan their fingerprints to pay for lunch, a move the hosts view as training children to be "good slaves" for a biometric future.
1:41:12 Hey, what about this kid Luke Angel? Did you read about this from Gitmo Nation East. He sent an angry email to the White House Oh yeah and he got banned from the country No US visit for you slave! And when he called the president a prick Hey hey You can't call the president a prick That would that woul- you can have no first amendment rights That's threatening What are you gonna prick him?! What does that mean? You prick! You can't call a prick... And then they like busted down his door I didn't know that part. They busted down his door? Well, I don't know if they busted it down but they came to his house. Do you think that... forget it is an outrage. Oh, I blogged and had a bunch of these apologists go, You don't really believe President Obama personally did that! No not at all. He noticed these guys. Dateline Arkansas
1:42:08 Cabo lunchrooms going high-tech in schools all over the state. Cabot, I guess it's cabot or cabit. What do you think it is? C-A-B-O-T. Probably cabit if its down there. Is the most recent school to put meal tracker into action. Meal tracker! What could it be John? Meal tracker. That's interesting Well meal trackers very good see the kids need more time to eat and they need to move through the lunch line quickly get those slaves nice and used to moving through the line quickly Director of Food Services Aaron Wilkes says every student has a meal tracker account So all you have to do, you don't have to pay with cash. All you have to do is just Have the meal tracker system scan your fingerprint Wow! Meal tracker That's creepy Yeah so you just put your finger on and bzzz And of course
1:43:00 On the Facebook page, one mother says I like the idea. Oh there's always some idiot mom! I hope they'll put it in all elementary schools well my daughter was in kindergarten her and another little girl had similar names a lot of times that little girl ended up using my daughter's lunch account that would prevent the mix-up so I'm all for it That's right I'm a good slave mother Damn! And I want to put out an alert to the... Well, here comes a train. Gary? No? I want to put out an alert to the people who do no agenda entertainment and TV and all of these sites that recommend movies. Charlie Chaplin's Modern Times Put that on the list. Okay, Charlie Chaplin's Modern Times Speaking of trains John All aboard! Trains good, planes bad! Well why don't we do trains good first
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California High-Speed Rail, Arnold Schwarzenegger and China
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger visited China to inspect high-speed rail technology as California's project cost estimates rose to $46 billion. The hosts argue the rail project is a scam to rebuild track beds for freight companies like Warren Buffett's at taxpayer expense, rather than for passenger convenience.
1:43:59 The governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger was checking out China's high-speed rail. Junk it alert junket junket yeah he stands right next to the bullet train going is very good this is very good uh... looks like uh... the uh... japan is readying loans for california's high-speed rail which now by the way the press is no longer talking about several billion though now it's forty six billion dollars away man how did you go up and i don't know what that is a tragic it's just why does that happen ideal always magic it was first there was uh... eight billion and other talking about the cost of the uh... forty six billion and is going to run through gilroy john
1:44:42 It's going to run right through Gilroy. What? Is it gonna stop in Gilroy? No, no you'll have to just jump on real quick it'll slow down. Now is not gonna stop in Gilroy why is it going through? It says train will run through Gilroy I can look at the whole article for ya as expected California high-speed rail authority reaffirmed its decision to send bullet trains shooting over Pachico Pass Pacheco. Pacheco pass through Gilroy foregoing an alternate route over the Altamont Pass oh here it is expect to begin full operations in 2020 I'm sorry 45 billion 800 mile system is slated to have routes from Sacramento to San Diego and to the Bay Area with a stop in Gilroy there you go transporting passengers pick up the slaves! There's nobody in Gilroy Oh, there's gotta be some slaves we can pickup
1:45:35 Pick up some slaves there's good very oh, you know what it is. Yeah, Gilroy is a big agricultural center They got already Oh the great pick up the for the freight when they change it over they want to have everything ready You know They gotta make the thing sound like something else of course if we knew we four people who just started listening this show This is what we believe and I think it's obvious that they're just this is all a scam To get the bit the track record beds rebuilt on the taxpayers dime so good warren buffett in these others who run freight trains can have better bad track beds and they can run a straight faster than you have bullet train freight tramming most of them traffic through the channel is freight Well, what do you think our slaves are? We're just freight. Yeah but they don't really want to move us... Nobody's going to take the train to LA I mean come on! Like i will take it once But am I gonna pay too much It's gonna be slower and more expensive Why would I take it?! So for those of you who are new to the program we have identified that massive PR firm one of the biggest and most successful ones in the world Hill & Knowlton are the PR firm for the US High Speed Rail Association
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Hill & Knowlton PR, Pilot Drug Abuse Reports
The hosts discuss the PR firm Hill & Knowlton's involvement with the U.S. High Speed Rail Association. They also highlight a Fox News report claiming hundreds of U.S. pilots have been treated for drug abuse and psychiatric disorders, including schizophrenia, which they view as a "meme" to discourage air travel.
1:46:38 And Robert Leather, slave from Manchester, Gitmo Nation. He says hey you know do you know Helen Knowlton has a Facebook account and I'm thinking maybe i should go post messages like a co-intel initiative by posting messages on their Facebook things like quote hey great job on the Playboy centerfold story guys she couldn't have done that on the train and I think it's a very good idea We should just keep, you know, just... Pounding them. Pounding there and telling them how great they are that they're really doing a good job Hill & Knowlton so they've forced some new fantastic anti-plane memes into
1:47:22 Into the consciousness here from Fox News, hundreds of US pilots treated for drug abuse and psychiatric disorders reviewed fines. That's right! He got that one, that's a good one yeah. Serious psychiatric and medical conditions Oh my god I don't want to fly with the drone Including schizophrenia attempted suicide sexual deviance alcoholism and drug abuse! My goodness so that's from The Harvard Review i guess In Gitmo Nation Lowlands police pulled drunk pilot from plane. That's right Yeah, he probably had too much to drink the night before and we're still a little bit in his and how do they come up with that? Interesting but this is the one that really I like it. I like the imagery though They pulled him from the plane You just imagine him being dragged out with his feet with his legs and feet dangling yeah exactly
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Bipartisan Policy Center, 9/11 Commission Terror Report
A new report from the Bipartisan Policy Center, founded by figures like Bob Dole and George Mitchell, warns that Al-Qaeda remains a threat. The hosts criticize the 44-page document as a "piece of crap" filled with conjecture and designed to keep the public in a state of fear.
1:48:22 I found this, uh... So the USA Today had the news. Dateline Washington commercial aviation remains the top target for terrorists who are likely to try again to use an easily hidden bomb to blow up an airplane according to a report released Friday by former leaders of the 9-11 Commission This obviously caught my attention. I'm like the former leaders of the 9-11 commission have released a report and so i have it, and this comes from an outfit known as The Bipartisan Policy Center John! Have you ever heard of The Bipartisan Policy Center?
1:49:11 Yeah, I have as a matter of fact. Uh...I saw them on C-SPAN once and they it's like these guys did the 9-11 report and decided to make a business out of it Well unfortunately the website which is at bipartisanpolicy dot org uh does report who was in the policy center but not how their funded or any that And if course you look at about which all do right now You'll see Bob Dole George Mitchell Howard Baker Tom Daschle these the founders Yeah, and then board of directors. Let me see who do we have? Oh a lot of PR guys We have let's see we have Media consultants senior military fellows director of transportation Advocacy this is one of those think tanks I think you call it right well
1:50:06 It's not really, I mean yeah it is supposed to be a think tank of some sort but... Well anyway so this report you know what if you and i sat down and said let's write the funniest thing we can think of. We still wouldn't have come up with this. It is a 44 page report. It is linked in the show notes under ministryoftruth at noagendashow.com And you just have to read it. It'll... Just a few choice passages. Executive summary Al-Qaeda and allied groups continue to pose a threat to the United States Although it is less severe than the catastrophic proportions of a 911 like attack The threat today is more complex and more diverse than at any time over the past nine years al Qaeda or its allies Continue to have the capacity to kill dozens, or even hundreds of Americans in a single attack
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Homegrown Jihadists, USA Today Terror Coverage
The Bipartisan Policy Center report emphasizes the role of U.S. citizens in Al-Qaeda, claiming terrorists no longer fit a specific profile. The hosts mock the report's lack of research compared to government drug trade reports and criticize USA Today for condensing the "fearmongering" into a short article for the masses.
1:50:58 A key shift in the past couple of years is the increasingly prominent role in planning and operations that US citizens and residents have played in the leadership of Al-Qaeda and aligned groups, and higher numbers of Americans attaching themselves to these groups. Another development is the increasing diversification of the types of US-based jihadist militants and the groups with which those militants have affiliated. Indeed, these jihadists do not fit any particular ethnic, economic, educational or social profile. It could be your neighbor's slave! this report the cia rights is pretty sorry yeah well there's that this report is really weird it's almost written like his in by a reporter some of the when one section says the new threat mom on somalia don't worry about me i'm okay but what is that mean this is very this is like not even uh...
1:51:49 You remember that report that we both have on the drug, uh...that was actually produced by an operation in one of our government operations? That very elaborate information on the drug trade. That showed great detail on everything going which way it was going where it was coming from and it was just extremely well researched. Yeah. Uh.. Oh yeah with numbers and weight and everything! Yeah they had everything It was all-it was actually pretty scarily researched This is a piece of crap No, it's total conjecture. Yeah but it's 44 pages of it whatsoever It's 44 pages of it and all they're saying is basically they're saying
1:52:30 A terrorist could be your neighbor. Anecdotes, bull crap information, phony anecdotes, suppositions... There's no real research being done here this is just a bunch of strung together factoids with a sketchy conclusion It's amazing when you see something like this compared to that drug report Right but I just want to go back to the USA Today piece so this is what people read They read this USA Today article and it's like well we're screwed. We're just screwed you know, it's like Al Qaeda is everywhere because the USA Today condenses it into 300 words. The idea that the American people have this threat is fading into the past is just flat wrong says Hamilton a former Indiana congressman What? Is he a member of the bipartisan policy group
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Hurricane Dissipation, General Dynamics Anecdote
A listener shares an anecdote about meeting employees from a large defense contractor, possibly General Dynamics, who claimed to be "sprinkling stuff" on hurricanes to make them dissipate. The hosts discuss the implications of secret weather steering and dissipation technologies.
1:53:26 Assholes all of them. I hate this, I really really hate this being scared into submission Yeah, I'd rather you just turn on the the Gwen machines The antenna array and just subdue me then give me this crap This is insulting anyone who can click on a link and read the report will feel insulted It's crazy to really really really annoying that they so how do you feel about it? Really? It's really really really really really annoying What is this hurricane thing I have? Hold on, what is this? In the morning John and Adam. Hey! This is a fan that's been a douchebag for a long time. I was just calling to tell you I was having a couple of beers with a couple of dudes the other day They worked for some big old company...I can't remember their name but it was probably something like General Dynamics or something Anyway, I was talking to them and said there's one guy he was sitting there smoking a cigar And I was like hey fella and he was like
1:54:19 Yes, and I said hey mister. Uh I know you guys are all out there Just busting up them hurricanes You know steering him around trying to keep him away from the United States And he goes oh no man We're out there sprinkling stuff on them so that they dissipate and I was thinking to myself Why are they dissipating hurricanes? That's creepy So anyway, but thought I would just tell you that and then also give you some money in the morning hit him in a mouth whatever That guy is good No hes not that good No like I like that voice it liked that delivery Like that so That's what people send us man, so I'm sure that happened. I'm sure I'm sure the guys that guys are the guys Of course it did what do they dump on their hurricanes? It would do any good who know well and just who knows
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Severed Feet in Holland and England, Global Warming Gender Gap
The hosts report on a right foot washing up in Holland and a left foot from the same shoe manufacturer appearing in England. They also briefly mention a study claiming women are more likely to believe in global warming before discussing EPIC's lawsuit against the NSA regarding its partnership with Google.
1:55:04 What do we know? We really know noth...ah! My brain. We do know one thing that according to research, women are more likely to buy into the global warming. I read that too. That is so funny. How insulting it is that to women generally It's pretty bad Little bit of foots before we go uh... might as well yeah this is this was just kind of interesting because uh... i think it told you that a foot uh... washed up on one of the aisles in the north of holland it was a uh... right foot including a sock and issue and uh... so the officials called the english manufacturer of the shoe and the manufacture said hey that's funny
1:56:00 Because we just had another person call up about the left shoe, same manufacturer that showed up somewhere on the British coast. Maybe this shoe thing has shifted continents? I think it's everywhere! Well it could be... We haven't gotten any reports from South America, we don't have that many contacts down there. Yeah It could be- you know, I know and haven't heard of any place else in California is always up in the Pacific Northwest and it's only really played a lot on the news by the Canadians that Washingtonians don't once in awhile when it washes up in Washington one of the feet. Futs, Futs. One of the futs washes up uh... it gets some play but
1:56:48 you know, I don't know. It's weird. Folks! I just bring it up because i want people to stay on it because this foot thing... Yeah if you see or hear us report of a foot washing up on shore yeah let us know Or in the sewer system or anything Just the foot usually is usually what was it? The left foot generally No, I do not think that matters Up north there was always the same side of the body But I just find interesting that right foot showed up in Holland and the left one showed up in England It'd be even cooler if it's a foot with this with a scram bracelet. Now you're talking that would be good then we'd really know Let me see epic what is epic? Epic is there some kind of well they filed for freedom of information act and they've actually filed the lawsuit against the NSA
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C-SPAN Democratic Caller, Harry Reid Support
A clip from C-SPAN features an "insane" Democratic caller from St. Louis who repeatedly tells the audience to "listen" while praising Harry Reid. The hosts mock the caller's repetitive speech pattern and the host's "trick" of cutting off callers by saying, "let me leave it there."
1:57:46 Because the agency failed to respond to their Freedom of Information Act request for documents about quote information assurance partnership with Google. This is the thing we've been talking about. The CIA can't get to NSA to respond to them, how are you going to? Well EPIC's suing him so I think that's good news. Good luck with that! That's good news. You know C-SPAN has all these different call in shows and the Republican nut balls call in and their Democrat nut balls call in but I love this guy he's an insane Democrat who keeps telling the person to listen. Listen! Listen! Hear me now
1:58:24 Which clip is it? This is insane Democrat. Listen, he says That would be the one St. Louis Missouri Tony Democratic line your next yes. Good morning listen, I'm a vote Republican if They weren't trying to legitimize their insanity's all the time Okay But you know listen Democrats, I mean that's all I've heard is Democrats are gonna have lose this year. They're going to have a hard time if we need to get anything done in this country, Democrats listen up all we have to do is give them 63 cents seats in the Senate okay forget the 60 get 63 because we have to allow for Lincoln and what Nebraska people and you know people who just aren't gonna vote with our with the Democratic Party anyway but another thing is I mean listen
1:59:18 Harry Reid has done a great job for this country. He's really... Do you know what this guy's been doing? He's been doing too much listening Listen, I just never heard person use it that much It's pretty bad Good for America So don't let him lose that okay Is he throwing the Let Me Be Clear anywhere or is all just listen? No its just listen Hey get out there! Hey listen slave listen Don't wait for The Democrats to organize for you Tony let me leave it there and Jennifer Duffy turn to you about his prediction for the Senate. By the way this woman who is doing she would just cut people off and say well let me leave it there, It's a really good trick for people who do this calling stuff Yeah let me leave it there yeah Let me leave it there And then you just kill the call Just drop him This guy had nothing to say Slave Rob sent... did you see this John? About Obamacare Did you see that note
The hosts discuss a provision in the healthcare reform bill requiring small businesses to file 1099 forms for any purchase over $600. They highlight a new IRS exemption for transactions made with credit or debit cards, which they argue is a move to force a "cashless society" by making cash transactions more burdensome.
2:00:12 Not that I recall. This to me was the find of the week and I want to give him a shout out. So in the health care reform bill, remember we talked about this that anything over $600 you'd have if you're small business you'd have to fill out a 1099? We talked about this ad nauseum almost yes i actually made it ad nauseam okay so just recap the problem with that and i'll tell you what's in this in the bill which apparently yeah i don't even know was it 600 or 500 whatever it was there was a uh... it's in the health care bill that you have to file ten ninety nine normally filed and i mean for an employee or some as a contractor that you know you give twenty thirty thousand dollars but they want you they want small businesses so if you buy like that you know couple you by ten reams of paper from
2:01:00 office Max you have to write a text yet to fill out a 1099 for the government you had been basically for all the purchases that you did in it and all the relationships that you have, you have to have a 1099 tax trail on all of it. Which is just burdensome... It's incredibly burdensome they're trying actually get this removed from the health care bill. Well guess what? And I have the link here at IRS.gov, IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman has some good news for us John! I quote... We plan to use our administrative authority which means i guess they can change stuff that is in this bill
2:01:41 To exempt from this new requirement, business transactions conducted using payment cards such as credit and debit cards. Cashless society. That is a good catch! Cashless society that's what it's all about cashless society great job Rob great yeah that's a good catch I love them Yeah we definitely want to get...and there was a bunch of memes about that recently uh... you're trying to get the school kids we just talked about that earlier to do not have cash at these these cars and was used because once you get the cash out of this system so there's no cash anymore then you've got control that of the public in the ukin you know if you what what it would issue net worth you know it's good can be a change any moment nothing
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French Sex Misery Survey, Episode 235 Outro
The show concludes with a brief mention of a BBC survey reporting "sex misery" for French couples. The hosts sign off from their respective locations, reminding listeners to support the show and noting the strange weather patterns in Silicon Valley.
2:02:26 you got no money you got no money in every have any money he gets the money you guys know there's so many chinese in this country that came over recently that only will do stuff with cash and is a lot of all cash businesses out there yeah resist this to an extreme that it's it's really a number of years away but this is a good example of uh... that's the bidding and then what are we what are we what are we on slaves using We're over time. We gotta get out of here. Yeah, we're done. Dvorak dot org slash NA please help us out with your support and... We are looking out for you! Yeah, we are trying to give you some information. At least you get some entertainment value from the fact that you being screwed over I didn't even tell you that the French have horrible sex BBC French survey reports sex misery for most couples I thought those guys knew how to do it
2:03:29 They know how to look good. We don't get any, we got like one guy Fabrice is our only French supporter Yeah and he's bitching all the time too He's always complaining Safely located 500 feet above the Gwen antenna arrays here in the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center not drinking the fluoride Here and get my nation West. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the sun's shining and Looks like it's gonna rain in the next couple days, which is really weird So I guess they somebody flipped a switch. I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on no agenda