Eggs & Poop

00:00 This is outrageous! Of all people, you homeschool your kids yet you put them on a leash. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, August 26, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 229-er. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the hilltop watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm the sovereign citizen known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the low-pressure area has moved in again, creating a fog bank all over the place, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! There we go. Three times a charm.

00:42 In the morning to you, amigo. Yeah, in the morning to everybody listening and all ships at sea and the human resources. Well, gee, thanks, bro. Everything I come up with you now steal from me. Nice. Nice, nice, nice. Well, hello everybody at noagendachat.net. That's where of course the real party is during these live episodes. And John, I'm just slapping myself against the forehead. Okay. I, you know, we've been talking about eggs for the past two episodes and this morning I turn on the television like, oh, of course we could have known what it was about. It was so simple. It's about the food regulation, the food safety bill which comes up for vote September 13th. If only we had realized, I didn't have the congressional schedule in front of me. Well, there's that, the food safety bill's point A and the second point is big pharma.

01:35 Well yeah, uh, yes, Big Pharma, they were talking about vaccines in the eggs, which, isn't that like a... Not in the eggs, in the chickens. In the chickens. Isn't that like a fractal though, because you have to have eggs to create vaccine? Yeah, isn't that funny? How does that work? We have to have eggs to vaccinate the eggs. And then I had another epiphany. Of course, if we don't have enough eggs, now that flu season is right around the corner, guess what, John? We won't have enough vaccines so we'll have to put adjuvant back in. I don't know if the chickens are put up with adjuvant. Yeah, but for the swine flu, we're just gonna have to. So, I got the biggest kick out of the

02:22 this week i listen to the farm hartman show yeah it's it's actually worse than ever yeah and also democracy now which is enough to make you want to shoot yourself well you know what you had a couple interesting points he was a very is really definitely bob push pushing the obama and agenda and the vaccine agenda in fact i have a clip about the chicken vaccine uh... and that would have waited apparently the uh... The left is going to push this, it's going to be scolding us. Because the British apparently... Why don't you play the Hartman clip, we've got to start off with the bang. Okay, yeah, and I've got another thing about that that relates probably. Farmers in Britain started vaccinating their hens against salmonella more than 10 years ago when they were faced with a similar crisis to what we are experiencing right now in the United States. That important step worked for the UK.

03:15 No more salmonella problem. But when American regulators put together the new egg safety rules that were actually promulgated last month under pressure from industry, they ruled that there was not enough evidence that vaccinating hens prevented illness, so they decided not to mandate vaccination of hens, even though that precaution would have cost less than a penny per dozen eggs. A penny per dozen eggs, though, for a giant egg operation, adds up to a lot of money. Amanda Cryer, director of the British Egg Information Service and Industry Group said, quote, we have pretty much eliminated salmonella as a human problem in the United Kingdom, end quote. Of course, the UK also has sound laws to prevent industry from dictating government policy. Hello, ma'am. I'm from the Egg Information Safety Center. Did you hear that little disclaimer at the end of that clip? Yeah, let's listen to it again. Of course, the UK also has sound laws to prevent industry from dictating government policy. Oh, yeah.

04:10 Oh yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Yeah, there's nothing going on like that. Never ever. Well, there is... This asshole kidding. So this whole thing, you're right, it's... And vaccines creep back into the conversation with this. We've got to vaccinate our hens. The word of the day, by the way, John, the word of the day, which will be at noagenderword.com is cloaca. Cloaca is the word of the day. Write it down and use it frequently in your daily language. Yes, and it gets into the... No, cloaca is a common cavity at the end of the digestive tract for the release of both excretory and genital products in vertebrates, except most mammals, and certain invertebrates. Specifically, the cloaca is present in birds, reptiles, amphibians, most fish, and monotremes.

05:06 This is the hole that the egg comes out of that you taught me on the last episode. Cloaca. Latin word for sewer. Is it really? Yes. That's great. It is. Origin late 16th century. Sewer. Hey, how's your sewer hole? I have at least two friends that won't eat a fresh chicken egg. Because of the poop. because of the poop. They'll eat an egg from Safeway, which is apparently laced with salmonella. Yay! Safeway! But they won't eat a fresh chicken egg because I guess they're, you know, they know... I don't know. I mean, I don't get it. What's the logic here?

05:46 I don't know man, but it's a I'm looking at CNN. I flip it on you've got Douchebag O'Daniels whoever the guy's name is and now he's got a live reporter from the solid bowl of America which apparently is California Because I guess all the lettuce and spinach comes from California funniest thing you see like 15 workers in the field gathering lettuce and they all have their hoods up because they're all Mexicans, you know, probably legal they all got their hoodies on like this you can't see their faces and And it's like, yeah, well, you know, this is also is very dangerous. You know, we need food safety, safety. I tell you, we need to vaccinate our lettuce. Vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate. And vaccinate. Yeah, vaccinate. Sorry, I missed the joke. Yeah, it's all right. Good one. Good. You know, a whole bunch of people and I don't know if you actually saw it, said, oh, you have to watch Penn and Teller's bullshit show about vaccines. Did you ever watch it? I got a bunch of it. Did you ever watch it?

06:46 I watched the beginning of it. I mean, I watched that show on and off. It's, you know, he's basically is a very, you know, Teller or Penn. I'm sorry, Teller never says anything, but Penn is a kind of a... The Teller guy's got to shut up, man. I'm sick and tired of him. Penn is a, you know, kind of a neo-libertarian and, um... you know, with pretty much a libertarian attitude. But he seems to, I don't know what the point of the vaccine thing was. They're talking about, yeah, vaccines have stopped diphtheria and smallpox. Well, it was the link between vaccines and autism. That's what it was about.

07:26 And yeah, I think the science is still not in. You know, there's lots of discussion. Like they say, even half the vaccine people think it's the mercury. So there's no evidence about anything. So let's just listen to 40 seconds of that show. The most important bit, of course, you know, Penn and Teller are seen as folk heroes, very much like the Mythbusters. So whatever comes out of their holes is the truth. In the 1920s, before the diphtheria vaccination was common, there were 13,000 to 15,000 deaths a year from that disease. If you got it, your chances of dying were about 40%.

08:04 In 1952, just before the salt vaccine became common, there were about 58,000 cases of polio. If you get unlucky, you might end up permanently disabled or dead. Meningitis, Hepatitis A and B, flu, mumps, whooping cough, pneumonia, coronavirus, rubella, smallpox, tetanus, chickenpox, chickenpox, We have vaccinations against all of them. Which side do you want your child to stand on? So even if vaccination did cause autism, which it fucking doesn't, anti-vaccination would still be science! So I wonder if Teller or Pan actually thinks that the rotovirus vaccine is that important. Yeah, or chickenpox. We should all get our rotovirus vaccination. Or chickenpox.

09:00 Yeah, chicken pox. I'm sure he's a kid. He was a kid who had chicken pox. I had chicken pox. I remember having chicken pox. Actually my son JC had chicken pox which pissed off everybody in the family. He had like one bump. Oh no, I remember being quite itchy. Yeah, I had a bunch of bumps on me. So you don't need a vaccination for it. I mean, it's not a life threatening thing, but rotavirus. What? Yeah. So basically, it's Penn telling us to you should be every vaccination that comes along. We should just take the shot. Is that what he's saying? Well, I think more interesting, more interestingly, he says, you know, what side of the debate do you want your child to be on? I'm like, does he have children? I don't think he has children, does he? I don't know. I don't think so. So, you know, go make a couple of kids and come back and we'll talk about it again.

09:48 10. Yeah, it does make a difference. Yeah, of course it makes a difference. No, it doesn't! You don't have to have kids, you don't have to be a chicken to know a bad egg. Ah, the world is going crazy once again, John. Crazy once again. Although I was in, uh, Mickey found this new health food store. Which he dragged me to in LA. Yeah, yeah, gee go for the health food. Yeah and And it was it's everything is six dollars and ninety nine cents everything, you know sandwich 699, you know But most of the stuff consists of a plastic bag with some stuff that looks like dried poop in it. I

10:26 And I have to say some of it is actually delicious although unidentifiable as to what what it is But at the checkout counter I swear to God John this was I I was afraid to take a picture because I'm sure he wouldn't even show up on the picture Jesus was standing there this guy must have been seven feet tall he had a robe on a white robe sandals he had the beard he had the whole the long face was paying with cash and I was like, oh my god, he's here. It was actually Jesus. And I wanted to go up and say, hey man, I love your work. But I didn't have the guts. I love your work, man. Great stuff. Really good. So anyway, so that's, I guess that's kind of it for vaccines.

11:11 Why don't we, do we have any executive producers for this program? Yeah, we got two executive producers and an associate. Nice. Actually the same as last week essentially. Okay. Paul Couture. Okay, Sir Paul. Antioch, Tennessee. Sir Paul. Sir Paul. Eric Gray from Fairbanks, Alaska. Both gave $333.33 and there are executive producers and then Thomas Hithaller. from Frankfurt. Hitler yeah. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. From Frankfurt, Deutschland.

11:47 222 22 it might be Heath Haler Heath Hiler could be Hale er yeah I don't know that's nice though I we don't get a lot of it how we do a lot of Deutschlanders Deutschlanders is okay well good I have some Gitmo nation Deutschland news today well we will be thanking more people in our support segment but of course Massive thanks go out to Thomas Hithaler as our associate executive producer and today's executive producers Sir Paul Couture and Eric Gray. Thank you very much for supporting No Agenda. Of course this is a real credit that you can put on your resume. If you have an IMDB listing you can put it in there.

12:28 And of course we will vouch for you if someone ever brings that into any question just call us up It's also listed on the internet. Yes, it is so therefore it must be true the rest of y'all especially you listening right now We've got to go out and propagate our formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth And the duck call was back

13:04 So happy about that it adds a dimension no other show has that dimension. No this is true Hey, by the way, I want to thank you so much. I'm gonna be on twit this Sunday. Ah Yeah, it paid off. Yeah. Yeah, really and thank everybody else for for suggesting this idea to Leo as well you can lay off now. You can stop harassing him on his KFI show which I'm sure he doesn't think much of. No, I don't think he's very happy with all of that. We never told anyone to do that. I've told you that and every time I tell him that he gives me a look like yeah right. Yeah right. Nah it's gonna be fine. It's true. We don't really, I mean our listeners are pretty much freelancers. They do what they want to do.

13:55 And so he said, do you only want to be on when John is on? I'm like, no, in fact, quite the opposite. I think it'd be much better if I'm on when John is not on. Don't you think? Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. I mean, otherwise we might not want to be on with you. I've talked to you twice a week is more than enough. Yeah. And I'm still enjoying not very couples on top. I'm enjoying not talking to you in between shows. It's really paying off. Like, oh, I get to talk to John for an hour or two. That's enough. That's more than enough. I don't even know if I want to ever do a third show. That just might be too much of you. It gets on your nerves. It does, doesn't it? Anyway, of course this is the show where we have a little more news because we have an extra day in between programs. And if you don't mind, I'd just like to start off with a little bit of Haiti. Something really interesting yesterday, Mickey and I went to San Jose

14:51 We Costa Rica. Yes, exactly. We are doing some stuff for a charity that we've done work for before and as a California, yes, San Jose, California. Well, you could have checked in now. You know what? I didn't feel like it. I just like I'm just going to fly up. We went straight from Burbank to San Jose and then back. Here's a day trip, which is really nice with Southwest. You know, it's like up and back. Perfect. Like the bus who needs a private jet. I mean, it's perfect. And this is Interplus. It's a funny little organization. They've been around for like almost 40 years, but essentially plastic surgeons go into developing countries and kids who are, and women and men I guess, but mainly kids who have cleft palates. They do reconstructive surgery on them because if you're in these third world countries and you're misfigured like that, then you're out of society. No job, no nothing. You know, you're basically dog meat, dog food.

15:50 And so it's plastic surgeons that do this and it's a really well run organization. You know me, I read all those reports and stuff. And so Mickey introduced me to him. And so we started doing stuff and we're going to be hosting their gala event. And it's anyway, so we have lunch with the chairwoman who is this fantastic Southern belle, just an amazing woman. And I say, so how come you guys aren't in Haiti? Because Haiti is really messed up. And immediately you see everyone's body language change. I'm like, wow, this is interesting. They will, you know, first of all, we're kind of like third level responders. People need, you know, food, water, shelter, et cetera. And then we, and of course Haiti has a lot of the type of injuries that they actually, that their surgical teams can do a lot for.

16:32 Because people get arms chopped off and heads maimed and stuff so they actually could be of great help. But she said something very interesting. She said there's a huge problem right now with USAID and the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. I said, oh really? So yeah, so the way the rules work, if you want to get any money from USAID, so this is basically the taxpayers' money, or presumably money also funneled from the $9 billion they were supposed to receive, then you are obliged to set up a partnership with the local government. Otherwise they won't get you any funding and everyone's having problems setting up a partnership with the Haitian government.

17:17 I'm like, huh, that's interesting. And she said, this is a real big problem. No one can really get anything together with the Haitian government. And then I see this news report from ABC, which I'll just play a little bit from, and I think I have a theory as to what is actually happening. Recent natural disasters like the flooding in Nashville in May and the earthquake in Haiti at the beginning of the year. So yesterday we talked about where things stand in Haiti seven months later. It sparked a lot of questions from you about the recovery efforts, so we went in search of some answers. On our journey back to the epicenter, we found almost nothing had changed. In our report, we showed the thousands still living in ten cities, the orphans still homeless. So many Haitians came up to us and they asked us, where is the help?

18:06 We remembered rock throwing and utter frustration. We also wondered about all the aid that came pouring in around the world. Where is it? Who is getting it? We wanted to get some answers from someone close to the recovery effort. So on Tuesday, we spoke to the U.S. representative for the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, Cheryl Mills, in Washington. What do you say to someone who says... So this is the government's spokeshole. Listen to what she's saying and how she positions the problem. There's $9.9 billion worldwide donated to this effort. For those people who've sent in their money and they're saying, how's it being used? Where is it?

18:42 Well, one, I want to encourage people not to forget Haiti. Dollars are being well spent and they're not being wasted. There are so many different needs that are in Haiti. Whether or not you are charitable organizations on the ground like NGOs who are making sure that there is actually clean water, that there hasn't been a massive outbreak of illness because we've actually had the opportunity for having the kinds of vaccination programs that are necessary. The road to recovery is long, but it is certainly one that the investment is worth it. We met Wayne Elzey, whose organization is giving away shoes. He told us about his shipping containers at the port. We saw dozens. Wayne said they could be used for temporary shelter for a family of 14. According to him, the Haitian government is putting up obstacles.

19:23 Okay, so that's just the start of it and the whole report is about how the Haitian government is not cooperating. They're no good They're not making it easy the help can't come in I'm like ah duh This is how this is going to be used as the reasoning to overthrow the Haitian government and put the shill in This is the entire, just like stop the aid, no money going in, nothing's gonna happen because the government is bad. And they're gonna have to get these guys out so you're gonna see continuously now, I guarantee you, you're gonna see these reports say, oh, we can't get the help in. The help can't happen because of the Haitian government. Because of the government. Yep, because of the Haitian government. So they're gonna take these guys, here's the deal. I'm gonna put this on top of your prediction. Thank you. These two guys, and I believe you're right, this has got to be exactly what's going on. It's all part of a scheme.

20:08 to build the big resorts and all the rest of it up in the north side. They're gonna take these guys, they're gonna be some... For one thing, to do this kind of a scheme, you have to be able to get out of town. Otherwise you're gonna get killed. Because once the people revolt, they're gonna go after you and they're gonna hang you. So these guys will sneak out in the dead of night, they'll be taken out by, you know, some transport somewhere or other, and they're gonna end up in Switzerland. Well, the last guys wound up in Africa somewhere, in some compound. Yeah, but they were rousted for a different reason. these guys are part of a bigger scheme you mean prevalent was a little eric c was not going along with the program that was the problem with him right provol is always been a as always been the shill right he's always been in for a long time so he's gonna end up this my prediction my prediction switzerland switzerland okay good because there's no way you know they won't take him get him out of there and he's gonna be happy camper live in probably in gestat so or in zug but he has zug that's the place to be where where all the name signs have

21:13 ink after them So yeah, I just thought it was interesting because no one is actually saying this on television You know, it's like oh well the other money, you know, it's being well-spent. You know, I got some shoes Got some vaccines Meanwhile people like dying starving. Here's some shoes to eat Have a shoelace and suck on this shoelace kid but really they're What they're pushing is that the government is not cooperating, but I think that it doesn't seem that hard to figure out and report on the fact that you can't actually get any money unless you have cooperation from the local government, because that's how the USAID works. And this umbrella organization of the NGOs, whose name I forget at the moment,

22:02 uh... there were there really complaining to uh... hillary clinton secretary of state because the they need these rules change they essentially can't go in anywhere and help with anybody or anything because they get no funding uh... in less that the local government cooperates so just an interesting little tidbit yeah when you get out of the house sometimes you learn something even in san jose go figure So I was at an event that's kind of interesting. I have a clip, by the way, that I want to play before we get to when we take our hour break and ask for donations, which is the PBS promo. Just play this so I can just bounce off this for starters. PBS is the place you should go first. There are no advertisers to be satisfied, only an audience to be satisfied.

22:56 Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not okay. That's a lie. It's a total lie. Shall we play the interview one more time from the CEO chairwoman of NPR? Okay, moving on to money. How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession? And what about foundation grants? uh... two different stories uh... underwriting is uh... corporate underwriting is is down it's down for everybody i mean this is this is that this is the area that is most down for us is is in isn't sponsorship underwriting advertising call it whatever you want advertising they call it whatever you want so interesting so anyway the of the idea here is that uh...

23:47 You know, there's this kind of faux honesty and all the rest of it. So I went to a thing at a re- at a- Can I just play that promo one more time? Just because it- Yeah, you might as well. I know you like it. Ah, Jesus. PBS is the place you should go first. There are no advertisers to be satisfied, only an audience to be satisfied. Bullshit! The promo changed all of a sudden. Wow. Amazing how that happens. Yeah. So... So I go to this theater, they're gonna have a sit down with Shelly Berman, Robert Morse, and a local comedian, Will Durst. And there's this kind of character that's gonna interview them. And he comes out before the whole thing, and he comes out and talks to this large audience in this theater.

24:41 And he says the whole idea is they're going to try to sell these interviews as called sitting down with comics or comic something or other. Wait, that's not the thing that's on Showtime now? The Green Room or whatever? No, it's not on anything. This is something else. It's a rip-off. Maybe whatever the case is this is very serious. You know it's very well in those It's actually well kind of well done except for the fact that this interviewer You know won't let these guys get carried away, or it just gives you restrictive But at the beginning of these she says he's gonna try to sell he's gonna make a series of these things is like the third one Or something like that and they're gonna sell it to PBS Right so I said so then he goes into the thing that ah I've haven't actually witnessed this before and I didn't get my recorder out fast enough to get most of it down but I was actually kind of stunned by it and I refused to take part I was there with JC the two of us sat there unfinching mouth okay so what we're gonna do we got two cameras here and we're gonna do the two cameras on the show but before that since we like to get audience reactions we'd like you to do a few things and then they turn the camera on the audience says okay here's what I want you reaction shots

25:44 I want to get some reaction shots. Okay, I want you to clap, clap, kind of, and then laugh. Clap and then laugh. Ready? Okay, ready? Go, hit it. And then you go... And he says, okay, okay, now we want you to, okay, we want you to laugh real hard for a long time and then start clapping. And he says, okay, I want you to give me a... everyone just chortle a little bit. Just look at each other. Look left and look right. Laugh a little bit. Look left, look right. Okay, ready, go. And he went through about five or six of these things. Yeah, of course. Because they couldn't afford more than two cameras. They only had two cameras. So the fact is, and this is when you ever see any of these events on PBS.

26:23 Generally only on PBS because the networks they usually have an extra camera or there's a guy with a handheld Out in the audience roaming around let me ask let me ask you this before you continue Did the guy have his script rolled up and was he clapping that above his head? Because that's usually what they do Of course, you know, I refuse to do any of this because it's like I didn't want to be on the I didn't want to be on there anyway, so I'm not gonna put the camera on this dud. So anyway, so when you watch the PBS, I've always been you're not gonna be on the show needless to say You'll not be singled out as the audience member. Yeah, not gonna happen. No, so they so you what you watch these things on PBS and

27:07 and you'll see some comic up there whoever it is and he says something and then they have an audience reaction shot immediately and this people you'll get yucking it up is like the as if the guy had to joke and the camera then the guy doing the mixing in real time new group fast enough to hit the audience and they got a guy who yuck and short lane or looking back and forth and clapping or whatever but that's what all television is, it's always been fake, that's what it is. Get to the point, for one thing I've never been in the, I've been in regular TV audiences and they have all the guys, the cheerleaders, they want you to do laughing but they, you know, it's all real. This is all mixed after the fact, this is done in post.

27:46 And it's a crock of crap. And it seems to me that PBS with this fake honesty... And a holier-than-thou attitude. Oh, we don't do this. Oh, we're the honest... This is... Yeah. This is... What? Oh. Hello? You can play the pet peeve thing. Hold on. Hold on. No. You know what? All I heard was, this is... And then you cut out. So do that and I'm sure... You're kidding. No, I'm not. Okay, well, let me say it again. Yeah. Ready? Yeah. This is dishonesty at its height. It is unconscionable and it's sickening that PBS is so-called great place where all this, you know, where we're going to be told the truth and this is not the truth. This is dishonest crap.

28:35 John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. Was not reading but they have an audio you're out you were there the little audience around the table Yeah, so there's a little conference room. You know 80 people work on that show I mean you you you see how much work goes in that you would never like download it again without without it being on Hulu or something It's like oh my god. There's so much work goes into it but yeah, and Seth is there doing like 80% of the voices and I stole a script to Sierra for Bowdoin maybe should give that away

29:26 I have a script from Family Guy that won't air until sometime end of 2011. We can have a party and then talk along with the show. Yeah, I think there may even be rewrites after this table read, although it was absolutely hilarious. And the funniest thing was there was a line in there where the R word came up, but they actually used the R word. What was the reason that you were there? One of Mickey's actor friends, her boyfriend is a writer on the show. Although this was not his particular episode. You know they have to fill up the audience with like normal dudes. You know people who just aren't in the business or aren't in the... won't laugh gratuitously at anything Seth says.

30:15 But it was amazing. So they do a table read with a little gallery so they can see what they think, what turns out to be funny because they don't have a laugh track on that. No, no, no, no, no, no. They just listen to see if the jokes work. They actually use audience reactions. Yep, yep, yep. And it's a conference room. It's not like a gallery. It's a conference room with folding chairs. Oh, it's not that big? No, no, no, no. It was great. And they do it in real time. You know, they start, they got one guy reading the, you know, like the narrative bits of the script. You know, we open, we come back from commercial, we open, and it's real time. No stopping. It's go all the way through. Don't even stop for breaks. You know, it's just like, okay, we're commercial break and we're back, and then they keep going. It was phenomenal to watch. It was a lot of fun. Anyway.

31:02 Not that anyone cares, I just sound like an elitist Hollywood bastard right now. I thought there was a point to be made. No, there's no real... yeah, the point was when you see how much work goes into it, oh yeah, you know people don't realize that. These are non-trivial, people take a lot of stuff for granted. Well exactly, and you see it's 80 people, you know, it's like wow, you know, and especially because they're HD now they're doing more animation and they send this stuff off for three months to Korea to fill in the blanks. Yeah, it takes forever to get that show done. Yeah, so So they are... Do they have any guest voices in the show? No, not on this one. But they do have... I know they have Rush Limbaugh coming up. Yeah, Rush Limbaugh did his already. No, there's another one. There's another one coming up. Another one coming up. I don't remember. Anyway. So, what else is going on the land of Gitmo? Well, we have the continued attack every week. I think we'll probably have a little piece on this. Neoprohibitionism.

32:01 Yeah, I actually have quite a bit on the neo prohibition you want to go in that direction because I can start off with my drunk driving news item that showed up on Kion can I start off with the obvious? The obvious is Lindsay Lohan who has been released from jail and she is now an outpatient. You know what that means. They haven't actually said it yet. I haven't found it in any of the reports. You know, they're all talking about, oh, she has to have psychological therapy and she has to have her pee tested twice a week. But you know she's getting the shot. You know she's getting the drinking vaccine. And it's only a matter of time before they start talking about it. She may even start talking about it. It's a miracle cure, I tell you.

32:45 I'm no longer addicted to anything because of this shot. I only have to get one shot a week. Just wait for it. It's coming. Nah, I'm gonna be highly disappointed if she actually takes the shot. What do you mean disappointed? It's gonna happen. It's gonna take her out of the news. Now she's gonna be a spokesperson for this piece of crap shot. No, I think they're gonna force it on her. I mean, she is going through the entire system that has been set up. This, you know, got $4,300, don't drive drunk. She's had the scram bracelet. Now she has to pay for that for the outpatient care. It's not free. It's not like a freebie. You gotta pay for that. Interlock on her car, I'm sure. We just haven't seen it yet. Although she doesn't have to drive.

33:32 So she's getting the whole treatment. No, no, I think this is a beautiful example. In Nova Scotia, liquor stores are now going to ID all buyers, even if they look like you, John. Yeah, why not carry an ID? You get carded. In Australia, some Gitmo nation down under, they're actually throwing a number on it. We thought this drinking stuff, you know, this alcohol was costing the state $15 billion a year. It's much more than that, much more I tell you. A new report on the harm caused by alcohol misuse in Australia claims the economic cost amounts to a staggering $36 billion a year. That's more than double previous estimates.

34:21 The alcohol industry questions the accuracy of the report, but the people behind the research project hope their findings will lead to new measures to tackle alcohol-related social problems. Hey, hey, hey, Aussies, you're screwed! Yeah, I love it. Oh well we have the report and we hope it will help us make new measures. Well you know I think there is a theme of just phoning up numbers and throwing them at people and just as fact and somebody putting out a press release would just make it up as they go along. Plague drug driving news. Hold on, here we go. A new tonight government study reveals that 1 in 12 drivers admitted to driving drunk at least once over the course of a year. Thanks to these alarming statistics, the federal government is spending $13 million in television and radio ads to get the message out about the dangers of drunk driving. Now as Labor Day approaches, police nationwide will launch a two-week blitz of DUI checkpoints and drunken driving patrol. Checkpoint! Checkpoint! Checkpoint! Checkpoint! So let's go over a couple of things in this report.

35:25 One in 12 drivers admitted that they drove around drunk over the last year. What survey was this? Yeah, it's a Pew study. Hey buddy, we're asking a couple questions. Did you drive drunk over the last year, yes or no? Uh, yeah. I mean, I'm just not seeing that this ever, this survey ever took place because most people would say no anyways. It's like, what are you, a trick of the train to get, I don't know, no, no, of course not. I'm looking at the reporting now. Government study, this is USAtoday.com, says one in 12 drivers. It is a survey by

36:03 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. They are known as a survey organization. Oh yeah, big time. And then they said that we have a holiday, Labor Day, whatever it is that's coming up, I guess. And so they always have a couple of checkpoints because God knows on Labor Day, everybody gets plastered. That's the whole point. We're not celebrating jobs, that's for sure. They're gonna have checkpoints for the next two weeks. I plan on getting really drunk. People get drunk a week before Labor Day and they stay drunk until the week after. This is just basically an excuse to do a sweep, you know, to dragnet.

36:53 Get people and harass them. And make money. I'm against drunk driving, obviously. It would be crazy not to. These things are bogus because it's not just about drunk driving. They'll get you for all kinds of tags, or your license is missing, your headlights are out. And besides that, it's still harassment. Unless you're weaving on the road and look like a drunk you shouldn't be touched talk to the cops shouldn't even have to talk to you Yeah, this is very common though in Europe. I mean I grew up with the checkpoints for alcohol very very common You know I've kind of gotten into the habit now when when people are saying oh I'm so glad smoking is banned and let's get you ugly smoke away from me bad smoking smoking smoke It's like yeah, you know what it's your alcohol next buddy

37:43 And it is. You know, they're gonna, first they take this away, you know, they came for my cigarettes, they took them away, they're gonna come for your alcohol next. And then the juice. And, you know, there's this e-cigarette thing, which I've actually tried and it's kind of cool, it's a... It's like a plastic tube that resembles a cigarette, has a little charge in there, it's a rechargeable battery. And you put these little cartridges in, and they're laced with nicotine. And essentially it heats up and it steams, it creates a nicotine steam which you inhale, so you get kind of your nicotine shot. And when you exhale, steam comes out, but it has kind of that smoke feel. And I have to say, it's a pretty nifty invention.

38:28 They're of course now being banned. Ah, good. Because the FDA feels that they've actually, the FDA has started intercepting shipments. I didn't know that they were now in the customs business, but the FDA has started intercepting shipments of these products. They come from China, of course. They say, hey, you know, we have the right to regulate nicotine. So you can, and you have to test these and make sure that people can't die from them. It's like, you know, finally something is actually kind of good. Which I think, inherently, it feels like it's a pretty good idea. And now they're being banned, so you can't use those.

39:06 There was, I saw a commercial, I don't have a clip of it, but it was a commercial, it wasn't clippable because it was mostly visuals. But it was about how all these poor kids have asthma throughout California and secondhand smoke is making it worse and they're going to kill all these kids. And it was, I don't have the, I didn't write down the exact URL, but it was, it wasn't about, you know, it was literally about ending it's something something like and tobacco in california and in other words no tobacco products of any sort in the state of california that's the goal yeah get it all out spoken it's about all tobacco products under all circumstances inside outside in your own house in your own car uh... or not just not a teepee smokers so i don't care personally but he goes to possess it illegal issue of the civil rights that you legal to possess a absolutely

39:55 And it's gonna come. It will absolutely happen. You know what's gonna end up? They're gonna legalize marijuana and people will be stuffing some tobacco into the joint. Hey man, I rolled up some baccy in my weed. That's actually pretty funny. It could really happen. Do I smell tobacco on you? Step out of the car. There's tobacco in that. Yeah, step out of the car son. I smell tobacco in your weed. Well, things are getting kind of nuts as it now apparently, certainly in the state of California, the People's Republic, is legal for law enforcement to tag your car with a GPS device. They can come into your driveway, clip this thing onto your car and track you. And this is now legal, they've tried to overturn this in the Ninth Circuit Court.

40:51 and it's just not happening. Law enforcement is allowed to tag your vehicle, I guess you as well if they can get it on you, come onto your private property and put a GPS tracking device on you. So what happens So you got, you know, say your house is protected by let's say... Well, you're asking the right question. You're asking the right question. They have motion sensor cameras and you catch the guy doing it, you take the damn thing and put in the house or put on a dog or you take the device and you just steal it. So first of all, they're saying that this law doesn't apply to rich people because if you can put a nice fence up around your house, then that's different. So the law enforcement can't scale the fence, they can walk up your driveway.

41:40 Yeah, so but if you if look if I saw this happening if I had motion sensor cameras I'd totally put it on a turtle or something You know I'd strap this thing to a raccoon or whatever or whatever I could get the neighbors cat I mean like hey have fun with this boys Here you go, but of course listening devices are next and it's just it's it's crazy. We've gone. We've gone nuts The thing has got to be small so you could probably put it on a bird and Yeah, I got a couple of those in the backyard new problem someone sent me a picture of the Sunday Times in Gitmo Nation East and It was beautiful. I can't actually find the article online unfortunately but it it's it's a two-pager and of course the Sunday Times is full color and

42:37 You see a picture of a husband. He's in bare-chested. He's a buff looking guy his kid is on his shoulders smiling wearing a rather oversized watch and I guess if this is either his wife or his other kid I think it's his other kid also wearing a colored oversized watch and the and across two pages right there in the middle It says tag them to set them free and Want to keep tabs on your children without stifling them? Ed Chipperfield tracks down five devices that let parents do just that. And there's all these devices and these colorful watches and stuff that essentially track your kid. That's like tagging your kid. Wow. With, uh, let's see, they have the iSeeka Family Pack.

43:24 So you can get a whole bunch of little watches to strap if you have more than one kid. The Buddy Personal, the Loxu Nu MS, the Wireless Digital Child Tracker, the Kool Trax Lite, Kool spelt with a K, is a beautiful, beautiful thing. And of course everyone's like, yeah, it's a good idea. And that dad looks like a perfect dad. So I think I want to be like him and tag my kid. Well this is kind of, there's this, let me just read from the iSEEKA website, iSEEKA family pack, the RF-10. This is like for little kids, it's like babies. Handheld base unit can find a wandering child up to an amazing one quarter mile away. You can fart and the kid will still smell it from that distance. It's bullcrap, it's useless.

44:18 This is handy if you're walking around you this would be you know a lot of times when a lot of parents have kids that are like to wander off and then when you go to the airport it's kind of frightening. I love it when they have the kids on a leash. I've done that. No, no with which one? Actually with Jay we had her on a leash for a while. I am so against that! so wrong. There's a bunch of people that use this. It works great. The worst thing is to have the kid running because these kids like to take off like a rocket. What are you, do you have a zimmer frame? What's wrong with you man? Hold on to the kid's hand. I am so against this. Whenever I see that I give these parents scouring looks. That's not okay. Put your kid on a leash. You didn't, you had one kid. So my kid wandered off. I kept my eye on her.

45:09 Did you have a little shocker for when they left the yard? Like, absolutely. It's outrageous! Of all people, you homeschool your kids yet you put them on a leash. I don't know man, it's a dichotomy. They're little kids, they don't mind, they don't care. So anyway, yeah. No, they grow up interestingly though. I'm not gonna say anything about your kids because I love them. And it turned out fine obviously. So apparently in your case there was no negative effects. But it's weird. You see, you don't say it was more popular about 10-15 years ago than it is today because of people like you. Bigots. Anti-leash bigots. Yeah, that's right. I just blew my secondhand marijuana smoke in her face so she would calm down.

45:55 Worked like a charm. I'd never put it on a leash though, let me tell you that. So anyway, this seems like just some pretty at the airport this might come in handy the kid, you know, if you order the store, you know, they one of the things my Wife pointed did you yank him back when like come here and you know, like a yank that little tug? Teach him to the end of the leash and they just stop moving. You know, it's not a choke Was it one of those with like a kid in a choke? Did you have like a real on so you could like So you can let him walk a little bit and then reel him back in? Is that one of those like, you know, the real dog things? Maybe, I don't know. Did you carry a plastic bag around to clean up after them? Did you carry a plastic bag to pick up their poop? Alright, I'm done. Yeah, yeah, you had some good material there. Not commercial, but it was, you know, it was acceptable. Open mic. It's open mic night here on Noah James, everybody. I'll be here all week.

46:55 So what happened, you know, Toys R Us has had, besides the fact that kids don't buy toys, or want toys anymore, they want video games. But somebody came into Toys R Us some years ago, because we remember shopping there. Toys R Us used to be a kind of a warehouse style toy store with these long aisles. and so some bonehead that obviously never had kids in their lives decided to redesign Toys R Us so there's all these offset little cubby holes in the aisles. Oh no. It was like a maze and so if your kid took one left turn you would spend an hour trying to figure out where they went because you couldn't just go up and down the aisles seeing you know seeing who was there. Right, they'd be hiding in like the in the nook. There's nooks and so these idiots at Toys R Us put this crazy system together. This

47:41 I seek a family pack would be great in a toys R us if you give it works anyway Whatever I'm still on the leash Hey, there's something that came out that I think is total disinfo and I'll tell you why and this is a video you might have even blogged it it's about a Chinese company and and the name of the company is blessed b-l-e-s-t blessed dot co dot jp and so this company which is I guess a small company well JP's Japanese yes didn't I say Japanese no you said chain I'm sorry Japanese

48:27 And this guy made a machine. You put plastic into the machine and literally you see him stuffing bottles and styrofoam and all kinds of plastic into it. And then he turns it on and then out the end it goes through a water filtration system and out the other end comes oil. And everyone's like, this is amazing! This is so phenomenal! Look at this, this is oil coming out! This is the saving grace. Now we can change plastic, which is of course a petroleum product, back into oil and everyone's like this is great, this guy's gonna get killed, you know, this will never see the light of day. And if you want I can give you my take on it now, but this is going viral and I'm, I guarantee, and that's the purpose by the way, but first I'd like to get your take on the concept of turning plastic back into oil.

49:24 Are you asking or are you going to play something? No, no, I'm asking you. No, you can't play it because it's a Japanese video and they're playing, you know, these kids jumping around. Well, there's a video with subtitles, which is not on the website. Yeah, this one's a video with Chinese subtitles, not very useful to me. What's my take on it? Well, I mean, this is obviously a It's a possibility you could do this by the way, because plastic is made from petroleum. I think it just sounds to me like some scam the plastics business has gotten into to

50:01 to push the more plastic on the public I don't know I don't really have to think about it. You have that page there right? Do you see on the video? Yeah, do you see it? You want me to comment on whether this is bogus? Well no, I'm gonna tell you why it's bogus. First of all... Oh it's totally bogus, I could tell you that right now. Why is that? That's okay, that's the part I wanted you to comment on. Well they get the bubbling because there's nothing going on here. This has to be a high pressure kind of a high pressure high temperature process of some sort It's just bubbling through water, and it's a little bitty device in this guy. This looks like bullshit now look at the logo on the video What does that logo say United Nations University? Thank you, so let me tell you what's going on here people. This is a tremendously well thought-out propaganda piece to remind you that oil is not just what goes into your car and

50:54 It's a reminder to tell you that oil is in everything around us in our entire world. You can watch this propaganda fire up very shortly. People don't realize this. I was having lunch the other day with a couple of friends and Mickeys. And I'm like, you know, plastic, there's a guy on the street, ban the bag, ban the bag. I said, do you have a bag? I'll put it over your head and I'm going to tie it really tight. Bags are handy for that. So it's banned the bag and then these but these two kids actually they're not kids. They're the young adults They had no idea that bags were made from plastic. This is an educational piece of petroleum from from petroleum. Yeah, they people have no idea How much of our world is made from petroleum products you have it's everything including those plastic battery cars you drive people

51:39 Yeah, all the paint, all the monitors, your computer monitors, like 99% plastic. Yeah. And one way shaper. Oh, this is bullshit. Here comes the oil out of it. And then it's like just because you have oil doesn't mean you can turn around and put it in your car. It has to go through a process called refining. And that's very, very, very, very expensive. So this is... It burns the front porch of this guy's place. I know, the guy... And look at the black smoke coming off of it as he's burning it. So this is a propaganda piece. It's great and it's nice to know but this is not, I don't think this is actually a solution. I mean it may be but how much power do you have to generate to melt this stuff? Here's the giveaway, United Nations. That's what I said, I looked at it like, United Nations University, this has got to be bogus. There's no way, this can't be like, yeah, we've got the solution. We're the United Nations, we're here to help.

52:38 United Nations University. I never even heard of the United Nations University. Yeah, they got a whole thing. The website's in the show notes if you want to take a look. Noagendashow.net.com. God, there's too many websites to remember. I am going to be right though, John, about my zombies meme. Hate to tell you. I said more and more zombies and you said no, it's gonna be vampires. Well, AMC coming out with a new series called The Walking Dead. I saw a lot of that out on the loading dock. Even tossed down the stairwell. Not the ones they put down. The walkers. They were seeing on the news some kind of virus. Things got crazy. Man, you won't believe the panic. The broadcast stopped.

53:40 Anyway, so the premise is this is a cop he gets shot at a checkpoint to shoot out He goes into a coma. He wakes up and everyone's dead and there are a couple of survivors a typical zombie story And everyone else is a zombie and it's a new series and it actually looks like a damn good series. I'll say It does. It looks like a good series. It's a winner. My daughter just bought the book Feed. Yeah, I'm telling you, I predicted this. Zombies is it for 2011, totally. I'm telling you, the next Twilight film is going to be a blockbuster. They could throw in some zombies. They got to throw some zombies in. You watch, they will. The Minneapolis City Attorney's Office has decided to pay seven zombies and their attorney $165,000 according to the Star Tribune from Minneapolis.

54:35 The payout, approved by the city council on Friday, settles a federal lawsuit the Seven filed if they were arrested and jailed for two days for dressing up like zombies in downtown Minneapolis to protest mindless consumerism. And they were arrested. They arrested the zombies. You know why? They were walking in a stiff, lurching fashion, carrying four bags of sound equipment to amplify music from an iPod when they were arrested by police who said they were carrying equipment that simulated weapons of mass destruction. What? Yeah. They were carrying equipment that simulated weapons of mass destruction. Like what? Amps? A bag full of amps, yeah. Ooh, that looks dangerous.

55:19 The bag full of aims. What is wrong with the police? Well, there's a lot wrong with the... well, not all police, but unfortunately. Anyone in any kind of uniform I'd have to say you know what the problem is they're getting paid too much money the idea of a public servant Is a public servant is that you know do things that well you work You know the old thing what I pay your salary. Yeah, not really no cop salary anymore the cops making more money than you are making And so now they Lord for everybody, but I'm making more than you you're a dummy. Yeah shut up slave shut up speaking of Speaking of which I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab Let's thank a few people and I have to say a few people who have supported us this week. Yeah, we didn't get much We'd like to get more so to encourage people to help us out a little bit with a little more aggressively

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59:23 the economy. We play that right now? Yeah, play it right now. Okay, it's on the, here we go. The Congressional Budget Office, the CBO, is reporting that the Obama administration's comprehensive stimulus package boosted the GDP by up to four and a half percent in the second quarter of 2010 and is directly responsible for putting over three and a third million people to work. This CBO estimate shows that the stimulus effort may have prevented the sluggish U.S. economy from tanking altogether between April and June. economists surveyed by reuters expect that revised numbers do out friday this week will show that the economy had a sluggish growth of one point four percent during that time period a number that would have been depression era negative and massively worse at the obama administration not passed and put into place their stimulus measure last year okay so our show we don't take you know government propaganda and just

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1:01:11 they would be a very good president cotch as an ed koch but they present coca apparently and uh... these guys need to be listening to our show their two libertarian characters who are being basically taken apart by the left wing media mation do a special report on the next show about about how to deconstruct some stuff on democracy now where they really went after these guys And I think largely because they're the, you know, the money or part of the money or some of the money, maybe even a small part for all I know of the tea party stuff. And it's we need more listeners like that who might, you know, pony up. And I would, yeah, I wouldn't mind some support from those guys. Yeah. K is it K OCH? Yeah. K OCH, David and Charles. What do they do? What is their industry? Coke Industries. They own like

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1:03:25 Then we also have the lucky $30 monthly subscription. We have the 3333 which is the boarding pass for the mothership 1,000 tickets available and I believe our boarding passes are going out this week John Yep, the boarding passes and they're numbered and you get there's a zone you get a zone a boarding zone and there's also a Disclaimer on it right if if we lose your luggage, then you get some ADRs I think Or something, or nothing. Or moon rocks? Something like that? Not sure. That hasn't been written. And I do not believe you have yet set up the 10-10-10 promotion. No, I gotta do that. I should do that today. As you know, 10-10-10 will be a very lucky day.

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1:05:05 420 I'll put it on there. Yeah, cuz you get 42 is good lucky and 420. Well, we all know what that is That's super. Yeah, that has a double entendre. Yes, it does Okay, so we'll have it can you have refers to what? Marijuana, yeah, because it's 420 April 20th or 420 in the afternoon or in the morning. It's always 420 somewhere That's when we all salute each other. Even the former smokers like myself still observe 4.20 in the afternoon. It's a kind of habitual thing. So why don't we do a whole 10-10-10 page, John? Yeah. But I do believe that this is going to be a very karmatic day.

1:05:50 And it falls on a Sunday, which is even better. So we'll have a show. We'll have a celebration. We'll have a special show. Yes, and we're going to give everyone special 42 karma. Everyone who has donated a multiple, either the $42 or whatever else we come up with. It's another fun numerology is important our whole universe is made up of it So you can scoff at it if you want, but we have plenty of examples of people who have received good karma From their support to this show. Yeah, and scoffing is good Absolutely, so you were talking about or I have any birthdays or anything. I don't know no knighthoods. No birthdays. No nothing Although my daughter's birthday is tomorrow, so I'll say happy birthday to her in advance She turns 20 and next Friday is my birthday

1:06:37 And I also turn 20. Next Friday? Yeah, next Friday. You're turning 20 next Friday? That's good. So you mentioned the, or actually Thaum talked about the economy there. Well here it comes. Here come the big crash is about to happen. First of all, I'm sure you saw existing home sales which, you know, plunged is the word the Wall Street Journal uses, 27% So this is people trying to sell their home. It's like 27% less sales in previously owned homes. Forget about new homes. But the real thing that we've all been waiting for to happen is, and they're calling it, that word is back, jingle mail, commercial real estate. They're just refusing to pay. Even though they can pay their actual mortgages for malls. In fact, the

1:07:31 Taubman Centers Inc., who amongst other properties such as have the Beverly Center in Los Angeles, just stopped paying their interest payments. And they stopped paying their interest payments on the $135 million mortgage on the pier shops at Caesars in Atlantic City, New Jersey, which of course, you know, Atlantic City is kind of in the tank. And a lot of these mall owners are just sending the keys back to the people who hold the loan. Jingle mail. Oh, here you go. And we're just not going to pay it anymore. Screw you. Not paying that mortgage. And it's funny because Tony Robbins, you know Tony Robbins? Yeah, we talked about him the other day. Where? On a show. Not on our show. Did we talk about him on... Really? Yeah. You sure it wasn't Horowitz Unplugged? Yeah.

1:08:26 About his video message? Yeah. No, we didn't talk about it, John. You and I did not talk about this. Okay, well go ahead. Well anyway. He made it and I followed Tony Robbins for many years. He made a video message. He told everyone hunker down I work with a lot of people in high places the the winter is coming the yeah No, it's a bogus message. You think he's got a new TV show. This is why we talked about it See I think you talked about it with Horowitz. I think it was with Horowitz. It wasn't with me I Anyway, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Whatever the case is, he got a new TV show about him. And so he comes out with this little viral video that's talking about everybody should... I don't know what he's trying to say. He's just saying all hell's gonna break loose. But this has been... It may have been horrible because we also talked about

1:09:14 apparently these are the third guy who's come out with this gloom and doom crap and as one of his in august uh... this was a bit group time is in a collapse this month is all over harry dent that's his thing and then some blood some other group came out with his old god you know is going to be the end of the world happening this month and then tony robbins comes out with his little thing it was he does nothing about any of any of it and my wife's console upset and she says oh my god your uh... this terrible what's gonna happen i said well the one all rule is that when everybody's predicting gloom and doom it never happens is just that never happens ever is when things are looking good you have to worry exactly it's like what we were like everything's great so um... anyway i staying on this housing thing and this was uh... this was a report on cnn with uh... wasn't dicks list rick's list uh... there is a uh... a new meme

1:10:10 Which I think I probably fall under, although I am not moving into people's houses as the bank or former, you know. So what's happening is the bank is repossessing houses everywhere. I think this happens a lot in Detroit and other places that are really, really severely depressed. So the bank just keeps them empty because they don't want to sell it now. They don't want to flood the market now with a whole bunch of really cheap homes, particularly now that existing home sales are down so much. That would only depress the price further. So people are squatting in these homes. Yeah. They're getting in. But they have a name, John. And the name is Sovereign Citizens.

1:10:53 sovereign citizens and and interestingly enough a lot of these sovereign citizens are African Americans however the report goes something like this They're accused of taking over foreclosed and bank-owned homes and posting fake deeds and other bogus paperwork in the windows to prove that they are the owners. See that right there? So somebody comes along, maybe an inspector, and says, oh, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe these people really do own this house. Except those papers you're looking at right there, they're bogus. They're fake. They're make-believe. This townhouse belonged to a couple in the Atlanta suburb. They were evicted. But prosecutors say that they tried to take back the home with papers claiming that they're exempt from

1:11:34 from Georgia Laws. Now take a look at this, I want to show you something else. This home has a tennis court and a pool. It's worth more than a million dollars. The group accused of squatting here allegedly took over a shopping center as well. They even charged rent! Prosecutors say these people are called, are you ready for this? Remember this word. I've been looking into this now for the better part of several weeks. Sovereign citizens. Sovereign citizens. Part of a growing movement who believe that the laws of the land simply do not apply to them. Okay, so I guess I mispronounced it. I guess it's supposed to be sovereign citizens. That doesn't make any sense. Remember this now, sovereign citizens. The guy can't even read English.

1:12:16 It's sovereign, douchebag. Can I bring in another... by the way I have a clip on some of this but I have also another interesting point that's something I guess this wasn't in the report but one of the more interesting... There's more to it. Please feel free to say something but I do have an expert standing by who's going to explain who sovereign citizens are. You want to play that first or you want to make your comment? No, you finish yours because mine's going to go in a different direction. So John, let's bring in an expert to find out exactly who these, and remember this word now, remember this word, remember this word, Southern citizens. Mark Potok, studying Southern citizens for the Southern Poverty Law Center. As a matter of fact, I read your magazine two days ago when I first got it.

1:12:57 Or when I got it this edition. I love how he tries to cover this up when I first when I he's like I've been looking into this for weeks, and I got your magazine two days ago I mean the most current issue because of course I read your magazine all the time I saw that they were on the cover so you guys have been you guys have really been drilling down on these folks Who are they what's their mo mark? Well, their MO's pretty varied actually. This business of seizing homes illegally is a new twist on many, many kinds of scams that have come out of the sovereign citizens movement. People remember Terry Nichols, the co-bomber of the Oklahoma City... Sovereign citizen! ...federal building was in fact a sovereign citizen. This is an ideology that goes back all the way, about 30 years to a group called the Posse Comitatus and actually was initially white supremacist. Oh, we hate black people, right.

1:13:48 And we smoke weed! And it might be amusing other than the fact that they are doing things like seizing these homes Like stealing very large amounts of money and in a number of cases murdering people in particular This thing went off the tracks immediately

1:14:24 But it gets better when he says oh and by the way, they're actually black The old-fashioned anarchists that you and I used to read about at the turn of the century for example, which came as I understand well He says that we used to read about in the turn of the century. Well, you know, he's being correct this century. You mean like yeah Yeah, exactly and from a different place right I mean those guys came from the left sounds like these guys are from the right They steal money They have no driver's licenses. They're white supremacists. They're murderers

1:15:07 Yeah, they're definitely from the right. I wouldn't really describe them as anarchists. I mean, this is a very specific set of beliefs that says there's no legitimate power above the level of county sheriff. But isn't that what anarchists... I'm not trying to be argumentative with you, but anarchists believe, to hell with the government, to hell with power, to hell with anybody telling me what to do. I live my own life. Sounds like these people are saying the same thing. How are they different? Sure, I mean there's some similarity. I mean the way they're different is anarchists, you know back in the day were very much against Capitalism any kind of money economy and so on it was all about very local small communities These people aren't community builders at all. These are people who want to be utterly

1:15:53 free of any obligation to other human beings and they're also at least many of them are coming at it from a very right-wing perspective. As I say it originated in a kind of racist ideology about how black people could not be sovereign citizens only white people had that relationship with the land and the idea essentially was that God gave America to white people. So they want to go to Atlanta and around Georgia now These are actually black groups now in Atlanta that have adopted this ideology. Okay, all right. So they steal homes, they steal money, they murder people, they are like the guy who blew up the Oklahoma City building. They're white supremacists and they're actually black.

1:16:40 Yeah, that story makes a lot of sense. Eric the Shield actually was in the chatroom and he made a very good point. And this movement of squatting in homes is because the banks repossess these or they kick people out but they can't actually prove ownership. uh... here's the thing that we know that that that's been going around i want to discuss which is the fact that these these various banks have been bought and sold and bought and sold and these these huge piles of mort mortgages are packaged and they go from place to place for a race and now there's a lot of people are saying i am on the place that proved me wrong Where's my deed? Yeah, they don't have the deeds. That's exactly the paperwork because they don't know where the paperwork is It's been sliced and diced eggs exactly. Hey, you know what screw it. I'm gonna go squat me a house should I'm gonna become a sovereign citizen? You don't own it. I'm gonna come if I'm gonna become an upstanding black American and go seize me a house There's also a law of the land meme in there, but oh, please this is just

1:17:38 outrageous. Well here's our local news coverage of the housing bullcrap and if you listen carefully to this report it doesn't make any logical sense which is pretty typical of what we're getting now when people are trying to analyze things. They can't sell it for any less because then the money they have left over to live in the area even up in Petaluma or Santa Rosa won't be enough. Oh no the twit cottage? I guess not. But there are homes for sale everywhere in Marin, one of the nation's most desirable places to live. San Francisco based Trulia.com tracks housing prices nationwide Inventory levels have skyrocketed to 12 and a half months worth of inventory when five and a half or six months of inventory is more like what we'd like to see and that's the highest inventory level in more than a decade even though interest rates are at record lows Interest rates could be zero and people will not buy homes if they don't have jobs

1:18:34 They will not buy homes if they don't feel that their jobs are stable and secure. Earlier this year, housing was looking up and sales were strong. But cancellation of the homebuyers tax credit from Uncle Sam ended that boom. But Trulia's Nelson says there's a bigger problem. High unemployment levels and unemployment levels that just don't seem to be changing very much as the months go on really have pressed pause on the real estate market recovery. Now as bad as these numbers are, they don't even begin to touch what the banks are mostly silent about. And that is the vast inventory, a vast inventory of repossessed homes that they hold but simply refuse to put on the market. That could depress the market for a long, long time to come. I'm consumer editor Tom Baker, KTVU Channel 2 News. Okay, a couple items here to look at. You're saying this is bull crap? No, the bull crap part is how does the bank

1:19:31 refusing to put these houses on the market depress the market no it doesn't it doesn't say says the bad there's a vast inventory of repose that the banks refused to put on the market And then he says that this will depress the market even further. He's a bonehead. He doesn't understand. Now the other thing is that the bogus part of this is the part where the interest rates are real low and people just don't have a job so they don't get a loan. You cannot get a loan. from the bank. The banks are not giving money out to anybody because the interest rates are so low there's no... They don't want to give it out. They don't want to give it out because they're not going to make anything on the deal. They'd rather wait for the interest rates to go so they can maybe get a little bit on the float. There's the difference between 0.1 and 0.

1:20:19 and they don't want to give it out to accept to the absolute frying candidates yeah so there's no money you just can't get approved I couldn't get a loan it for a house if I wanted one I have no regular paycheck I can't get out of that but the point is is you'd probably be good for it but the point no I'm not good for what are you talking about I can't even get a credit card what are you talking about they're not gonna give me a mortgage It just blew up. So anyway, I said I can't what I said was it's always misreported the banks are coming out smelling like a rose on this deal What I was saying was I can't even get a credit card I try from time to time just to laugh at the whole system. I can't get a credit card I don't get they'd they declined me because I have no credit. Yeah, cuz you don't owe a bunch of money. Yeah, so I'm no good I'm not a good slave. No good. No good. Oh

1:21:10 uh... a shock and by the way there's the kabuki clips i didn't get well which i i still have on the machine i can find about god dig him up for maybe the next year whenever i'd run into him there's a whole bunch of these stories that were floating around last week that last couple weeks about micro loans given to you US citizens, you know these micro loans where you give somebody 500 bucks to so they can you know in Bangladesh so they can start you know a sewing company and repair shirts or whatever and then you get your money back plus some interest and you feel real good about things is called micro loan. Well now they're doing it in the United States and nobody sees this as pathetic. Yeah micro what is a micro loans like a 50 bucks 100 bucks 50 bids anywhere between a couple hundred bucks and 10,000.

1:21:57 Yeah, but now we're the third world country getting these loans because the banks are gonna give anybody any money so I want to read a piece of listener email from a shock ashok a Producer which is what we call our listeners from Colorado and we know Colorado is a great place to be right now So listen to this. This is this this story will freak you out. I Five cops and two students from CSU, Colorado State University, came by his door in the morning, knocked. He answered it. He was in his pajamas, disheveled hair. These were full uniform cops with guns on them, walkie-talkies that were going off and beeping during the whole ordeal. They introduced themselves, said they are the police that are responsible for this neighborhood, and they're going around to everyone in the neighborhood to get to know them.

1:22:48 They wanted to let me know of city ordinances that are in effect for this area so that I could be safe and not get into any unneeded trouble. They went on to say the most received complaint they get is for noise complaints and that I should be respectful of my neighbors and get to know them so I don't bother them and trigger a noise complaint. Then they asked where I was from, how long I'd been living in this apartment, and they said we have a gift for you. It was a deck of playing cards this is very similar to the to the Al Qaeda playing cards each one of the Iraqi ones Iraqi ones each one of them had an ordinance on them and he took some pictures of these they're beautiful playing cards and and he looks at these cards and here's a four different examples one playing card says rioting gets you kicked out of school the other one says noise violations can cost up to $1,000 per person

1:23:45 Number number three nuisance gathering minimum fine $500 nuisance gathering which I love that That's a great gitmo talk and don't get gassed leave the scene of a riot These are cards that the cops are handing out to people who live in the area of the CSU comp campus That's disgusting. I Was blown away by it Wow, yeah, I We're up pictures in the show notes. Oh, of course. Are you kidding me? The pictures are beautiful I might as well just hit you with a couple more because I want you to get to you got some other good clips

1:24:30 Only have two real stories that I wanted to hit you with one is This whole sexting thing that we've been all over Wall Street Journal reporting on this so now states are actually putting laws into place Well, you know they don't feel that they should like, you know, absolutely throw Teenagers in jail for sending naked pictures of themselves to each other, but they have come up with including California They have come up with a tiered discipline system Where if you do it once then here it is They call it the happy middle ground If you do it once first offense brings a maximum sentence of 10 days in jail second offense could be 30 dales days in jail This is a bunch of teenagers Who are they gonna send some kid to jail for 10 days because he took a picture of his his you know? It's privates yep

1:25:24 Yep, okay kid. Yeah, what if we say you saw his girlfriend's is a I don't know this is ridiculous he did but they but What they're saying here essentially is it's good news because we're not gonna keep it on your permanent record So you won't have this like so I'll be in jail for 10 days That's gonna do wonders for your grade point average. Yeah, but they will take that off when you turn 21 Oh, that's just sweet. Yeah, no one will ever know Oklahoma has proposed a law that would impose one set of penalties for consensual sexting between two people aged 14 to 18 but provide possible stiff jail terms for other types of teenage sexting, undefined. States will continue to tweak their criminal laws to cope with the changing technologies. This is so ridiculous. You know, if your kid is sending naked pictures to another kid, great.

1:26:18 That's perfect. They're exploring their sexuality. Take them aside if you don't like it. Yeah, which is another thing, you know, I find it offensive this idea and I actually take this back. I don't know how far back it goes, but it's very bothersome. And I think it goes back to the DeLorean thing for me. John DeLorean started a car company back when and he was having trouble financing the last stages of his little company. And he made of course this crazy Goldwing car that he used to was the once head of General Motors. He was kind of a dick but he was like a businessman who was trying to make a new car company which is not the easiest thing in the world to do.

1:26:57 And so somebody suggested to him that he do a, you know, that he gets, he moves some cocaine through the system. Yeah! Yay! and you know i guess he said thought it was a good idea and of course they set up a sting there was never any cocaine involved there was a never really committed a crime he just kinda was gonna commit the crime so it was pre-crime as we know pre-crime is really the key here and it was a sting operation stings are good because they are actually a it's a technique for making pre-crime a crime and i thought that you know in in a more civilized policing state and somebody who's gonna say this they got wind of this guy's gonna try to pull something like this so why did you know somebody goes up to him says hey we're on to this coke thing don't fucking do it just get back to work and find some other way to finance your company because we know and let him go back to work what is the point of going through all this trouble to arrest some poor schmuck

1:27:56 that was just obviously a bonehead if he was actually in the cocaine business and there are pros in the business, they don't do anything about them, do they? It's just one of these things where you trick people into committing a crime, put a phony hooker on the street, some hot cop, and get some guy to pull over and maybe you don't even know half the time, as soon as the guy pulls over, boom, you're arrested, your car's confiscated in the state of California, you lose your car by the way. And you're on a reality show. And you know, and the whole thing is a bunch of bullcrap. When all you have to do to stop these problems is just say stop. And didn't he wind up, he was so pissed off with everything that he threw the die?

1:28:38 for these cars he threw him in the ocean so you can remember that they can never make another part that's why I don't want a DeLorean because they're made of like stainless steel steel aluminum yeah I don't know maybe whatever point is is that this you know we're just it's bullshit apparently in the business of finding ways to get to three crime to work I was, I thought when I was doing it, we're doing the news stuff on on Silicon Spin, this was in the 90s, and some schmuck was arrested at the San Francisco airport because apparently he was going to go on a sex cruise or a sex vacation in the Philippines. And they arrested him at the airport because he was going to have sex with

1:29:20 underage women in the Philippines. They didn't do it. He didn't do anything. He was just gonna get on this plane. For all you know, he would have gone over there and not done anything or just gotten drunk and come back. You don't know. But it was a pre-crime situation and it was another excuse to throw somebody else in jail. And that's essentially all we do. I was reading somewhere that in Baltimore and in Maryland they're already actually using the computer for pre-crime. They said they're actually using this IBM system. I'll see if I can find that story. Yeah, we blogged that actually. Yeah, I saw the story somewhere. It was one of these comments of mine. We blogged it that apparently there's some computer system that can... You know, I almost think this is a hoax story because I find it hard to believe that we've gone this far astray. Yeah, certainly it's being publicized so you watch out. Be good, slave. Shut up. Don't do anything. We're tracking you.

1:30:17 And if you do actually get arrested, good news! Law enforcement now has a laser to fire at you. This is the assault intervention device. Oh, the pain laser. Yeah, measuring 2.2 meters in height causes some serious heat when shot at an escapee or fighty prisoner. Fighty. What kind of word is this? It probably gives you cataracts too, but nobody wants to talk about that. No, what it does is it turns you into a hot pocket. I love it. This is like we've been seeing this coming. Here it is. You know tasers aren't enough. We're just gonna fry your ass. Yeah slave bits. Gotcha. It's amazing. I just love it.

1:31:09 And then maybe, I think we should bring this back, John, if not only for the fantastic jingle. That's right, it's that time of year again, ladies and gentlemen, when we roll out the flu vaccine and we start scaring everybody. So the flu season this year, according to Wall Street Journal, the goal is more shots sooner. Of course we've already seen gift cards everywhere. You can give, it's the gift that keeps on giving. A great Christmas gift. Yeah, it makes a great, great, hey give it for Labor Day. U.S. officials say they're using lessons learned from the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which erupted in April 2009. This year's flu vaccine will have the H1N1 baked right in. It'll be right in there. It's not a separate shot. It's fantastic. So that's groovy.

1:31:59 Meanwhile, reports now that bloodhounds are being trained to sniff out swine flu as well as H5N1, that is the bird flu. What? Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Okay, boy, here you go, boy. Ready? Now, here, smell this. It's got the H5N1. Oh, you just dropped dead. No, well, what these dogs will do, of course, is they'll be used at checkpoints, and they will sniff you out as having swine flu. Based on our results we believe dogs as well as mice could be trained to identify a variety of diseases and health conditions said US Department of Agriculture scientist Bruce a Kimball PhD Who presented these study results? Does the mouse squeak at you three times if somebody's got the swine flu? I mean, how do you do you train the mouse? How does he let you know? So anyway, these will be used you'll see these dogs at airports it'll say swine flu dog and

1:32:58 and he will sniff you and if you get a hit, if it's a positive hit, you'll be taken aside and you'll be quarantined. It's as clear as the nose on my face. They're gonna use dogs now. They always use dogs. They already use dogs for drugs. They use dogs for you know if you're bringing in peanuts from the plane when you enter the United States if you have money on you Oh dogs of these guys took it too much money. They got dogs for bombs. They got dogs for fruit. Yep. They got dogs for drugs. Yeah, it's great. So now we'll have dogs for for diseases not just swine flu But for all the way when I'm at when I'm at the airport, I'll see you some guy dog guy. Yeah, no

1:33:37 And I'll ask them what kind of a dog is it? Is it a drug dog? Is it a bomb dog? What is it? And they always tell you. Yeah, but they always say don't touch the dog, please. Don't touch the dog. Meanwhile, in Finland, I have to say the Helsinkians are pretty smart. H1N1 vaccines have been suspended over narcolepsy scare. At least 15 cases of narcolepsy amongst children and young people in this past six months. Huh apparently you take your kid to get a shot and the kid keeps falling asleep Kong's out That's a good one make sure that's in the show notes. Oh, yeah, of course. It's in the show notes absolutely So what do you make of the situation in China? You think it's part of the planes good trains good planes bad With the night suppose it I think this story is bogus by the way suppose it nine day traffic jam Yeah, you know it's

1:34:35 I'm not quite a lot of people have sent me that link saying this is planes good trains bad cars even worse Which of course we the jingle doesn't go like that Yeah, I think it might be Although you know I don't really see the the part of the story that says if only they had taken the bullet train But it's really trucks So I think that's where the link is because it's really... How do you have a nine day traffic jam? There are exits from all three lanes. Well there's road construction. They've cut the... there's road construction. Duh! It happens everywhere. Go break up the 405. But not for nine... you don't get stuck in your car for nine days. Well if the construction is just chopped, if they just stop the traffic, if they just cut the road in half, of course you do. Then it builds up real quick. You find a way to get off the road.

1:35:29 She had to crap in the car. I mean you have to crap before doing the show Excuse me, I don't crap I poop all right. There's a big difference. I don't crap actually guys do crap women poop Logan Airport security has changed Of course Boston's Logan is where one of the box-cutting terrorists boarded an airplane and flew it into the World Trade Center and Was an amazing astounding job. What did they change it to well? And why now okay? Well that is the real question the new procedure already being questioned of course by the ACLU replaces the transportation securities administration's Former back of the hand pat down so that what they were doing is they'd pat you down but they use the back of your hand around the sensitive areas ie my cock and

1:36:21 So what they're doing now is they're actually groping you. So I think what happens is you go through the body scanner, they see you've got a, you know, you're looking hot and then they're gonna touch you. I'm gonna touch this one, watch this. I only want the female person to do that to me. I'm gonna request female assist please. TSA is in the process of implementing an enhanced pat-down at security checkpoints as one of our many layers of security, said Ann Davis, TSA spokeshole for the Northeast region. Pat-downs are designed to address potentially dangerous items like improvised explosive devices and their components concealed on the body. How many improvised explosive devices have we had improvise you, not the crotch bomb or anything like that, ever? Well I don't know, but I tell Mickey it's an IED.

1:37:07 Watch out baby. Here comes my IED so Here's another story that's floating around which I think is bogus because I'm fairly familiar with physics They have now this supposed portable scanner they have at the airport now. They have a portable truck version Wait, let me play the commercial for it. Have you seen this? No, hold on here comes The Z Backscatter Van from American Science and Engineering. From the outside, the ZV-V looks like an ordinary delivery van, allowing it to blend in to urban and other landscapes. Yet, as it passes by cars, trucks, containers, and other objects, its unparalleled x-ray screening system provides photo-like images, detecting explosives, weapons, contraband, and stowaways.

1:37:57 These images can be immediately analyzed by the operator seated in the ZBV's cab. The ZBV is the perfect screening tool for seaports, military bases, border crossings, checkpoints, and any other locations where illegal material or IEDs can be smuggled in via cars, trucks, or other vehicles. Using AS&E's unique backscatter technology, the ZBV produces electronically generated x-rays that detect substances containing low atomic number elements such as carbon, hydrogen, and nitrogen. These elements are often present in explosives and other contraband.

1:38:39 The ZBV is an ideal tool for detecting these threats in vans, buses, cars, trucks, cargo containers, dumpsters, densely foliated trees and shrubs, and any other objects or containers where dangerous items can be concealed. The ZBV is not only incredibly effective, but also very easy to use. It can be operated by either one or two people and is up and running within minutes. The operators can view the objects as they're being scanned. And by using AS&E's image analysis tools, they can manipulate, enhance, and save voidware prohibited by law. Buy now, or stocks last. So are we having an IED issue in this country? Are there cars being blown up by the side of the road? Do we have IEDs all over the USA?

1:39:30 I think it can detect boob bombs. Well they specifically talked about IEDs. We never heard of an IED until like a few years ago because these poor countries that we've invaded. Yeah we used to just call it a pipe bomb. Now it's an IED. Yeah. Right. Alright, so you're saying this is physically... So they're all over the place? Is that what I'm being told? Is that what I have to infer from this report? Well, they can see things such as carbon, like human beings. Yeah, well they show the pictures of, you know, this so-called... looks like an x-ray. It sounds to me as though they're blasting x-rays all over the place, killing us with radiation. Yeah, with x-rays. Yeah, this is not good. So you say this is physically impossible? Well, not without some... To go through a cargo container's steel

1:40:15 to get an image on the other side of a steel wall. They actually in that video show them pulling up next to a sea container and they're scanning it. Yeah. So that's bull crap. Well, I mean you could probably do it with some... That has to be powerful x-ray. I don't even know what you can do with terahertz. I don't know how... it's not easy. You'd have to blast the crap out of it. To get through steel and then get an image on the other side? Yeah. That's not just backscatter. What if it looks like steel and you crank it up? Let's put it, it looks like steel to me but it's not just plastic and you just incinerate the person? I mean give me a break. Here it is, new crime prediction software being rolled out in the nation's capital should reduce not only the murder rate but the rate of many other crimes as well.

1:41:00 Developed by Richard Burke a professor at the University of Pennsylvania the software is already used in Baltimore and Philadelphia to predict which individuals on probation or parole are most likely to murder and to be murdered. Oh I'm glad I'm just a spectator of all of this. I'm glad I don't get emotionally involved when a person goes on probation or parole They are supervised by an officer the question that officer has to answer is what level of supervision. Do you provide? This is amazing Technology helps determine level of supervision needed for people on probation or parole. It's it's ABC News ABC News report Yeah, everybody takes this matter of fact as well. This is oh, this is pretty this is handy Yeah, well we've been set up with a minority report. Yeah, we've been set up. You know it's like Scientifically Burke's results are very impressive says Sean Bush way a professor of criminal justice at State University of New York SUNY by the way not a real school who's familiar with Burke's research and

1:42:05 Predicting rare events like murder, even among high-risk individuals, is extremely difficult. Burke's scientific answer leaves policy makers with difficult questions. They're already using it, so they say. I think it's just a... Here we go again, back to the depressing part of our show. I don't want to be depressed. Let's play a funny clip. You got a funny clip? You got something for it, don't you? Anyway, that's not good. No. I'm sure you have a funny clip, John. Please give us a funny clip. Did I lose you? Hello, I'm here. You finally lose the connection. Hello, hello, I hear you. Hello. Hello. Do you hear me? Hello. Hello, hello. Tommy, can you hear me? Well, let me tell him I can hear him. Are you there? Hello?

1:42:54 Tommy Yeah, that's usually what it means It was funny cuz I could hear you hello. Hello. Hello Hmm soon to be down for the count no it's your sound device again there you are oh you got me No, no stop downloading porn. I got nothing going on here. Okay. You hear me now

1:43:33 It's your side. No, it's not my side. I hear you fine. I'm sending fine. Let's just do the show like this. I still can't hear you. Yeah, it's alright because... Yeah, right, exactly. Now I can hear you. Yes, okay, good. So it's totally on your side. Hello? This is... This is not good. Comcastrated he is. Hello? John? Maybe if I initiate the connection. I think I should leave all this in. This just shows you the sorry state of broadband in America.

1:44:11 Let's see. Hello? Hello? Hello? John, I can't hear you at all now. Do you hear me? Hmm. I don't even think my Skype message is... Oh, connection lost. I think there's something wrong. John's connection has been kind of weird all morning. It's been a little spiky. Let's try again. Oh, he just came online again. Hello?

1:45:04 Yes. Yeah, I hear you now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what's wrong with your setup man? It's like it keeps tracing back to this. My M audio might be failing. I told you. Maybe. That's Windows. It's not Windows. It's a Anyway, do you have a fun clip so we cannot be so depressed although that was actually quite funny I think I leave that whole bit in because we were talking and neither of us I could hear you but you couldn't hear me and we were actually having a and it sounded just like a normal no agenda conversation which makes you wonder about the show. It does. But don't let that stop anyone. Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah. Okay, so here's a pathetic... This is the commentary on the... This is a long clip, by the way. You can interrupt it as we go. But this is the pathetic commentary of the decade on what's wrong with, I don't know, the world, the United States, I'm not sure. Play the RuPaul's Drag U. About to change.

1:46:09 Welcome to Drag U. This semester, commence dragulation on RuPaul's Drag U. Higher education. Watermelon, watermelon. He's going to be a drag. Ooh. Okay. Leave it to our drag queen professors on Jaina, Chanel, Morgan McMichaels, Tammy Brown, Nina Flowers, Andora Box, Jujubee, and Raven. Get to work. We're professors and we should be setting an example They'll school our students in the art of being fabulous Let's pretend we're an orangutan what I have seen this show once what what channel is his air on I don't remember I'm not gonna give him any publicity

1:46:59 You know this is actually it's probably a good thing this this is a growth market that RuPaul is in Since we are drinking all these chemicals and more being added every single day. It starts of course with the fluoride men are becoming very effeminate in the United States. So I think it's a growth market, you know. We're all gonna be like hunkering for the perfect color first. That's how it starts and then we'll start wanting dresses. What's offensive about the show is not that this has got anything to do with being a drag queen. These are drag queens trying to get American women to be more like them. Oh really?

1:47:54 Yeah, the idea of the show is we got a bunch of, you know, borderline lesbians, dykes. that are married to people... You said the D word! And they're upset with, you know, they're upset that they're not more feminine and instead of, you know, I don't know, reading Glamour magazine, I don't know what, you know, I'm not a woman, but I don't think you go to a drag queen for... For fashion advice. Well, I don't know, let me listen to the rest of the promo, this is very interesting to me. With top honors. Oh, I'm gonna let the bitches have it. Are you ready to be the baddest bitch in school? Okay! Ladies, let them have it. Class is in session. Deep in the Lake Titicaca Valley, a school was formed by drag queens to help biological women unleash their inner diva and let the world have it. Chronological women. Nice.

1:48:53 Huh. No, I think he said biological, didn't he? I thought he said chronological. I thought it was even more interesting. Let me listen to this. Unleash their inner diva. Hold on, hold on. A school was formed by drag queens to help biological women unleash their... Yeah, you're right, biological. ...inner diva and let the world have it. We here at Drag U are in the business of putting drag queen heads on women's shoulders. Welcome to RuPaul's Drag U. You know, the whole industry has just gone crazy. Poor women, poor women. I really feel bad for the female species.

1:49:37 You know, inundated continuously. As you say, Glamour Magazine. This... Mickey picked up a copy. I'm looking at it. It's like do's and don'ts. Yeah, it's always this do's. They're just completely being... But this takes the cake for offensive. Now, I want you to play the whole clip because at the end there's some poor woman in tears because she's, you know, for whatever reason... I mean, it's almost... It's like a real eye roller. Yeah, finish it up. Really now good morning professors Now a new class is arriving ready to change their lives through the miracle of draft. I fuck you RuPaul. I'm done I can't listen to that anymore Seriously, no, it's it's I can't believe women put up with this You know we protest about everything else, but it's it's it's amazing how women are being subjugated into the certain way you have to look to

1:50:35 You know, it's just... By drag queens, yes. I feel bad, I really do. And they don't see it. Most women just... Oh, they do. My Mimi sure sees it. She was... She blew up when she saw this. Well, let me just say a lot of women don't see it. And they get just... The Kardashians is a part of this. I saw Kim Kardashian appear on Chelsea Lately. And Kim Kardashian is so fake she actually was wearing a dress with with Actually, I think she was wearing a corset underneath with butt cheeks It was very obvious that she was wearing that type of corset. It's like it's gotten so bad Everything is fake. You know these days you you get a woman in bed you undress you're like what? Where did where did that woman go? I picked up at the bar? You're like Lego

1:51:32 What do I snap this back on in the morning? It's like women are beautiful human beings. You know, it's like don't worry about it. This, this too shall pass eventually, but now maybe not in your lifetime. But my, oh my, oh my, oh my, no wonder we have so many divorces. The guys are stupid. You know, it was like, cause all we got is porn and they all, and they're all pieced together women. And it was like, ah, they got to look like this. It's like we're completely conditioned. My goodness. I think we just have an ugly people show. You're not ugly enough. Come here. Come to Adams ugly you. I'm going to make you look ugly, bitches. I'm gonna turn you into the real bitches you are. I'll make you ugly. So I got another couple of minor clips here that are kind of off topic. Don't put me through that again, though. No, you're okay. You're fine. You're good to go. Okay. What's next? So I just got that I was highly amused by this clip.

1:52:33 This is a news item, an anti-Carly Fiorina person complaining on one of the news shows. Is it RuPaul complaining? No, no, but it might as well be. By the way, that RuPaul character, on the show he's bald and he's got a fake mustache and big glasses and wearing a man suit. I think he's I don't think he has any nuts. Across the street from the convention, a couple dozen protesters reminded people that Fiorina laid off tens of thousands of workers during her time at HP. Why would anybody want to consider a failed CEO could take on this monstrous job of governing this state? Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

1:53:26 So the news channel puts on this ding-a-ling who's protesting Carla Fiorina and apparently the woman thinks Fiorina is running for governor. Why don't we find somebody even more stupid to interview? We can put her on RuPaul's show. And of course the news guys... Don't say anything. Don't say a word. You know the anchors nowadays they never... They don't know. They either don't pay any attention or they don't know anything or they're just stingy. Here's what happens, they're reading the prompter, okay, and it's like, okay, roll package! And then they're twittering, they're talking to each other, like, hey, where are you going tonight after the show? Oh, we're back in five, four, three, they don't look, they don't know, they're not paying attention. I've done these shows. You know how it goes, John. When the package rolls, that's when you scratch your nuts. Get a little makeup touch-up.

1:54:23 Anyway, how about your old woman stuff? I got an over the old woman stuff is pretty tedious But let me just give you an example what goes on old woman nowadays I've got this clip called old woman it with this rambling guess at some apologist apparently the the liberals contingent out there on the MSNBC although they seem to hate religion just generally speaking they really do like the idea of Islam, I guess, because there's this out-and-out defending this controversy going on in New York to such an extreme as why bother? You either pay no attention to it,

1:54:59 Or you don't, you know, essentially it just doesn't make any sense that they'd be so involved. I mean as far as I'm concerned, it's not even a topic we talk about on this show. Because it's a local issue, it's kind of interesting to talk about when it first happened, and it just, but it's being dragged and dragged and dragged on. So, so Oberman gets these people on who are just I don't know if they're brain dead. I'm not absolutely sure but they just ramble and ramble and over me Oh, yeah, you can't interrupt him and tell him to get off the stage It's ridiculous, but just play a little bit see much of this you can take Hussain with Osama bin Laden. Oh, I'm done You know, we have been told by many of our leaders that

1:55:36 there was absolutely no reason to invade Iraq. Al-Qaeda wasn't there, blah blah blah. We all know these stories. So from my point of view... Alright, any guest that comes on and says blah blah blah, you're off. You're off the show. Blah blah blah. This is an escalation of, you know, what has been going on. I mean, when people will accuse the President of the United States of being Muslim, the problem with the accusation... Accuse? This is interesting. Like it's a crime? Now all of a sudden? I honestly have to say I never really expected to be in this position in America. That we don't understand that you can't excerpt the fact that this is an argument about religious tolerance just because none of us individually wants to be called a bigot. So we cloak bigotry and racial intolerance. I think it should be called the M word from now on. I don't think we should use the word Muslim. It should just be M word. Because I was missing an M.

1:56:43 And you know we've got the a the a word the b word the c word the d word do we have an e word? No, okay, we need an e word we have the f word we have the g word the h word we do have an i word Okay Islam I mean oh yeah, I know the I word Islam right we have the J word hmm I don't think we have a J word K word don't think we have that either L word yeah lesbian can't use that in fact. It's a TV show It's probably trademark M word we now have I mean we should get that we should be talking the whole time letters just letters

1:57:27 This actually reminds me my son pointed this out. There's a bunch of these these called number Stations or something like that. These are shortwave radio stations They've been around for 10 15 20 years 30 maybe and you tune them in they're always moving around the dial in the shortwave radio And it's just guys giving numbers out 5 7 well, you know, this is very Oh Quran this funny you bring that up because I was actually gonna skip over it and The the Russian buzzer kicked in again. Did you hear about that? No So the Russian buzzer is a station that has been on the air for God. I don't know how long it's been on the air Let me see if I can find the link here There's a Wikipedia as a whole page on it and all of a sudden this thing usually just buzzes right and sometimes you'd hear like

1:58:18 a little bit of a Russian voice or something kind of slowed down and was really weird. And all of a sudden, a couple days ago it kicks in and now we've got the guys giving out codes and everyone's all in a titter about it. Listen to this. Well I thought they were giving out addresses. Well listen to this. UZB-76 UZB-76 93 882 So it's never been this understandable in like 26 years or something and everyone's like, oh the Russians are something going on the buzzer is acting up It's too crazy even for me to get into it. Yeah, even though I did record the clip But there's a link to the wiki page where you can hear what it used to sound like and see here's what it used to sound like hold on that's all it used to do and now I've got

1:59:21 So we're screwed These things over so many years is like what kind of a job what kind of technology are they using? It's like dude. This is not good use the internet Germany is rolling out ID cards with embedded RFID It's about time. Yes, made by a fine Dutch company from Gitmo Nation Lowlands. And right on the heels of that, of course, they are hacked very easily. But this RFID contains biometric information. It's got all your details in there. And of course, Gitmo Nation Deutschland is very happy to have them. And the government says it's really easy. This is very handy because this will be your money very soon. First, it's your loyalty card, just like the Belgian system. And then from your loyalty card, it'll become your money card.

2:00:13 In the lowlands by the way, you know this they have a system called pin PIN which of course means personal identification number, but it's turned into a verb and they call it pinning So in supermarkets, I think we talked about this on a previous show You can Instead of paying cash or with a credit card you use your pin and it's just basically like a debit card but they call it pinning and it uses a smart chip on the card instead of a magnetic strip and and in some cases you can even load up the card with some money, then it's called the chipknip. So two things happening. One is the supermarket association is now saying we're going all pin, no cash. But even more interesting, the banks are saying, you know, people over 65, we really need to protect them so they can't pin at the ATM, they can't pin more than 300 euros because, you know, they can get attacked and people can take old people's money away.

2:01:12 And I know lots of people who are 65, incredibly vibrant and smart and alive and contributing to society, and they literally can't get more than 300 euros out of the ATM because of this ageist bullcrap. Yeah, no kidding. It's unbelievable. That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. No, the Dutch are like, yeah, poor old people. Yeah, we need to protect the old people. Idiots don't forget the Dutch no agenda meeting Dutch. No agenda meeting calm September 10th I will be visiting and miss Mickey's coming along too. So at least we'll have hookers We won't have blow and she's bringing some girlfriends to she's gonna bring some hot girlfriends wish you were going on her a hooker Just joking she did It's a joke

2:02:03 Yeah, you'll see what happens tonight. No, she she won't keep this show away from her. She already tuned out at RuPaul believe me She's already gone. She's not listening No, but she's coming. I think that's cool. She is bringing her girlfriends. So that will be fun and and we have Youp will be playing at the at the affair. It's gonna be for it's gonna be fun and Then finally the x37b This is the secret mini space shuttle they shot off from was it Andrews near you there? He is not a NASA first It was a NASA project then all of a sudden it wasn't a NASA project and no one knows about it And it got shot up in the middle of the night, and it's been they shoot from Vandenberg. I'm sorry not yeah, and was Vandenberg

2:02:48 Well, it disappeared. It disappeared off the radar for about a week there. They couldn't, of course, amateurs have been tracking this thing, you know, wondering what it's going to do. It literally disappeared on July 29th and failed to reappear as on schedule on August 14th. It just didn't show up anymore and no one knows where it is. Well, obviously the test was for it to disappear and come back. I think it's cloaking. They've got some kind of space cloaking stuff going on. Yeah, but apparently you can't turn it off. I think it just landed on the moon. You know, to go resupply the moon bases. Oh. Well, that's possible. Yeah. In some dream world. Alright, then I've got one more just to piss you off here. This is from Gitmo Nation. Of course, the assault on salt continues.

2:03:48 Little did you know how bad salad is for you, John. I'm not talking about... Just any old salad, just salad you might buy at a... when you're shopping the high street and think, oh you know what I'm gonna sit down at a nice little cafe here and have a salad. And have a salad. Now this is not... In California we eat lots of salad. We are the salad bowl of America. So this is not some pre-packaged thing. No, this is the salad you have after a nice day of shopping and spending your human resource energy. Salads bought on the high street could be a health risk. One in ten contains more salt than the 2.1 grams in a McDonald's Big Mac. Okay, so you're telling me there's more salt in the salad than in a Big Mac? You're telling me that salad is... this is pushing people towards Big Macs? Listen. In a McDonald's Big Mac, that's nearly half the daily recommended amount. Just six of the 270 salad and pasta bowls surveyed by Consensus Action on Salt and Health contain...

2:04:47 What was the name of that organization? I never played again. Pasta bowls surveyed by consensus action on salt and health. Consensus action on salt and health. Wow. I'm going to Google that while we're listening to it. I'm Googling it too. Consensus action on health and salt. Contained less salt than a packet of crisps. Let's listen again. Consensus action on salt and health. Contained less salt than a packet of crisps. But the research also found that the average salt content in supermarket salads has reduced by 23% compared with five years ago. A lot of these salads have got numerous ingredients in them such as dressings, extra cheese, extra ham and those are the things that really add the salt into your salad. Naturally, pasta, salad leaves don't really have any salt in them and of course if you made them yourself at home they would be very low in salt. So it's really the manufacturers putting salt in it to try and boost the flavour rather than using good healthy ingredients.

2:05:42 Did you find him? Yeah, it's right. It's called, uh, it's a action salt.org.uk. Action salt. Ooh, action. And their, uh, their, their consensus action on salt and health spells cash. Cash is a group of specialists in term with salt cash. Just send us your cash Actual action salt. Is that what it was? Is it one word action salt org? Yeah dot UK Yeah, I don't get anything action salt AC action. Oh, I'm sorry action on salt

2:06:19 Action on salt. I was gonna say you have so that's it's not a salt on salt is the action on salt I don't get any page there action action on salt org UK I'm not getting anything my brother well here Let me send you the link and then you can see if you can get it through this I mean, I did maybe you're I don't know Let me get you the thing. I don't see it. That's really weird. Maybe I have to put a WWW in front of it. There it is. Yeah, maybe you do. Yeah, WWW. Consensus action on salt and health cash. They're really blatant, aren't they? Yeah, they want to reach a consensus with the food industry and government over the harmful effects of a high salt diet.

2:07:03 and bring about a reduction in the amount of salt in processed foods as well as salt added to cooking on the table. Cash is supported by 22 expert scientific members. Ooh! Nice. Click here for a copy of the list. Some clicking. Professor D.G. Beavers. Beaver. It's Justin Bieber's dad. Professor H.E. Wardner. Charm Cross Hospital. This group was set up in 1996 as a response to the refusal of the chief medical officer to endorse the COMA recommendations. These guys got great acronyms. COMA. Yeah, what are the COMA? Oh, C-O-M-A. Committee on Medical Aspects of Food. Shouldn't it be COMAF? No, it's COMA. The COMA report considered the evidence for a casual relationship between the consumption of sodium and both the level of blood pressure and the rise in blood pressure with age.

2:07:57 See this is the real dispute here, is that too much salt causes high blood pressure. It apparently does with some people. Yeah, but of course we all know that... Science! Science is completely in on that. Yeah, so the... But then the other... It's just crazy. Here's a little funny little... on the recent press release, a funny little cartoon with a woman standing at the counter saying, Take away lunches and it says salt may contain traces of salad. I love putting salt in my coffee. And we checked my blood pressure. They actually looked at me and went like what? I had a 108 over 60. That's pretty good. It's low.

2:08:51 Yeah, it's not real low though. You gotta be careful. It's not too low. 108 over 60? That's low. Maybe that is low. I don't know. What is absolute normal? I don't know. But I am a 46 year old smoking male. And I love salt. I love it. So, you know. Anyway. I guess the message here is go have a Big Mac. It's better for you than salad. Because salad will kill you. You're looking it up, normal blood pressure? So you go to normal blood pressure and then you do 120 over 60. Looks normal. 120 over 60? So I'm 104, so it's low. It's like a little... 120 over 80 or lower is normal blood pressure. Here it is, 120 over 80. Okay, so I'm low. You're a little low. Is that bad? Is low blood pressure bad? Well, yeah it is, but I don't think you're low enough for it to be bad. What happens when the blood pressure's too low?

2:09:48 Well, you drop dead. Oh, okay. Not good. Especially when it gets to zero. A blood pressure of zero over zero is not good. Alright, are we done here? No, we're not done. I want to get the number for low blood pressure. Do you have another clip? Hypotension. Can you kick me? Can we leave everyone with something good and something nice so we can get out of here? We're getting close to overtime here. No, we're not. We started real late. Oh, I guess you're right. We're five minutes over. Okay. We'll talk about blood pressure. Most normal blood pressure falling range is 90 over 60. To 130 over 80 and then you're not even you so you're not really low. You're just a zombie. You're fine I'm a zombie All right. All right. We're done. We're through we're finished. Okay. I just wanted to slash na help us out We didn't get any help this week. We need a little help. No blood pressure low Support low yeah, and you yeah, I

2:10:50 Remember we've got those $5 a month subscriptions. Those are really great for ongoing support and of course get in on the 42. You can make a one-time donation. We'll track it as 42, but John's gonna get the page up, right? Yeah, actually Eric's working on it as we speak. And have we now dubbed Paul Couture as Lord of the Rings? Or not we could call him that he needs a lord. Did you send him an email like you promised? Yes, I did okay good He's working in so he talked on the phone. Yeah in my book Yeah, but go ahead. I think lordships may be in order well. I think that he will become Lord of the Rings He's gonna make it happen. What about spells mockers? He's got to get some sort of Lordship Oh, we'll give him a Lordship for sure We will figure that out on Sunday when we return with this program and

2:11:41 Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, West, the People's Republic of Southern California, I am the sovereign citizen known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the weather pattern has gone down the tubes again, but that's okay. I'm John C. Duvrac. We'll be here again on Sunday for early morning service on No Agenda.