Episode 221 · Thursday, 29 July 2010

Marceaux for Governor

A massive intelligence leak ignores the Afghan opium trade while BP turns a catastrophic oil spill into a multi-billion dollar tax windfall for shareholders.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 221

About this episode

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange faces scrutiny following the release of 70,000 Afghan War Diary documents, which notably omit data on regional poppy production. The New York Times and Mark Mazzetti confirm a vetting process with the White House, suggesting a coordinated marketing effort rather than a raw intelligence leak. This data dump arrives as the Pakistani ISI faces renewed allegations of supporting the Haqqani network while illicit opium supplies in Afghanistan surge to 89 percent.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner defends the expiration of Bush-era tax cuts on Meet the Press as a new healthcare provision requires employers to report insurance costs on W-2 forms. In the corporate sector, BP reports a 34 percent revenue increase despite the Deepwater Horizon disaster, benefiting from a 10 billion dollar tax break. Technical testimony reveals the rig relied on an obsolete Windows NT operating system that frequently suffered the blue screen of death prior to the explosion.

Basil Marceau, a Republican candidate for Governor of Tennessee, demands the removal of gold-fringed flags and the recall of all gun permits to facilitate universal open carry. The segment takes a turn into the bizarre as the hosts analyze a Barbie Video Girl doll equipped with a hidden chest camera. This episode features a deep dive into the value-for-value model and the history of military challenge coins with Executive Producer Paul Couture.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Human Resources Terminology, Organizational Behavior Research

A listener named Dustin, an organizational behavior researcher, sent an email defending the term human resources as an endearing and positive business concept. The hosts critique this perspective, arguing that treating humans as raw materials or financial capital is dehumanizing. The discussion contrasts the academic view of human success with the reality of corporate management.

human resources· organizational behavior· dustin· business scholars· financial capital

00:00 These guys are just talking out of their ass. Once again, I'm your agent known as the former Soviet spy. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, here in the People's Republic of Southern California. It's beautiful here in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. Can't say so much about the weather in Northern Silicon Valley where it is gloomy as it is always in July. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Why don't you read War and Peace in the intro while you're at it?

00:43 What? Why don't you read Warren Peace in the intro? Come on, man. It's like, keep it snappy. Keep it snappy? Let's do a word count. Well, I'm snappy at least. Well, how can you be snappy when it's gloomy, it's fogged in, it's ridiculous. The whole month of July has been like this. This is the worst ever. Global warming, thank you very much. You gotta move down south, man. It's where it's at. In the morning to you, John. You'll see why I don't want to move down south in a later report. In the morning to you, John. How are you? In the morning to you and in the morning to all the sips, ships, sips. all the SIPs, people which are using a certain kind of telecommunications protocol, and all the ships at sea. And good morning in the morning to you human resources. I hope you're all nice and charged up and ready because your government needs you. We got someone who took exception to our use of the

01:31 Term human resources. Did you see that email? No, I did not see the email Dustin. Yeah, he says I'm an organizational behavior human resource management researcher Wow, that's a business card I'd like to comment on your recent uses of the term human resources. You seem to portray the term in a negative fashion Yeah, yeah, it's actually meant to be an endearing and positive term says Dustin. Oh What? Yes, traditionally business scholars conceptualize resources as financial capital, raw materials, intellectual property, and that such resources are what contributes to organizational success. Recently we have started to pay more attention to how people, humans, can actually be thought of as a resource. Yeah, well that's my point. I have one word for this guy. What?

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Soylent Green, Fight Club, Subliminal Film Techniques

The conversation shifts to classic cinema, specifically the film Soylent Green and the cultural relevance of its themes. One host admits to never seeing Fight Club, leading to a discussion about the film's use of single-frame subliminal blips featuring the character Tyler Durden. They also note how films like Fight Club and The Manchurian Candidate were historically marginalized due to their proximity to real-world tragedies like 9/11 and the Kennedy assassination.

soylent green· fight club· brad pitt· tyler durden· the manchurian candidate

02:20 Yeah, you know what? We're great as resources because we burn well and long. Kind of like a Yule log. Soylent green. Soylent green. What's that? You never saw the movie Soylent Green? Attention to the uh... our entertainment uh... websites. Yes. Make sure to have the movie Soylent Green on the list of things to watch. I think we've discussed this previously but no I've never uh... never gotten around to it. I can't believe you haven't seen that movie. Well there's... you know I haven't still haven't seen Fight Club. I mean attention to the Mickey got it for me on Netflix, but it was like it was the wrong one. It was from like some movie from 1953 Yes, Fight Club needs to be on the list hmm highly recommended John do we have fight club you have to watch it on DVD because throughout the movie the character Don't tell me don't tell me no I'm just gonna tell you this because you need to know this before you watch the movie and

03:20 Tyler Durden who is the is the character who is the fighter? He keeps showing up as one frame blips. Oh, yeah, see we have had this conversation I remember this too. Yeah, like little subliminal thingies Yeah, they pop up all the time and you and they and the thing that's in do the only thing you might want to note is the size of the of the of the one frame blip It varies and it has a lot to do with the structure of the story. It's very, it's kind of geeky. Yeah, and all along I thought it was like a movie with Brad Pitt fighting in his bare chest or something. I'm like, that's why I never saw it. I was marketed improperly. I didn't understand. Well actually the problem was it was almost a little bit like the, and here's another one for the list.

04:10 The Manchurian candidate came out around the time of the Kennedy assassination. And so they basically shelved the movie because it was like a little bit too close to home. Yeah, hello! Well, in this movie where some buildings get blown up, it was about the time of 9-11. Right. And so this movie got pretty much marginalized. Hold on, let me switch glasses for a second. Why don't you get the spreadsheet so we can... Yeah, we only have one producer. We had a very weak Sunday which indicates me that our last show was crap. How can that be? Our shows aren't crap. Well I don't know I have to go back and listen but I don't do that. You know we always talk for about between 30 minutes and an hour after the show and we review the show and I'm actually yeah you're right we said yeah that was good we didn't really have any zingers did we?

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

No Agenda Challenge Coins, Dutch Marines, Military Traditions

Executive Producer Paul Couture launched a successful fundraising campaign featuring No Agenda challenge coins, surpassing sales targets within 33 hours. One host explains the history of challenge coins, recounting a personal experience receiving one while embedded with the Dutch Marines in Iraq. The rules of "coin checks" in military and veteran circles are detailed, where failing to produce a coin results in buying a round of drinks.

challenge coins· paul couture· dutch marines· iraq· noagendafans.com

05:06 I guess not. Whatever the case was we got from Edriona. Well it's value for value, that's the way we look at it. Well we didn't deliver I guess. We didn't deliver the value. Sorry. Edriona K. Kane Couture. No that's Paul Couture. You should read. Yeah I know but he put her name on there. No he says in the notes, please it's her account but it's for me. And then we have bonk to gmail.com. Yeah, well Paul of course is this is the first installment from our no agenda Coins the challenge coins. Yeah, the challenge coins at no agenda fans calm go there and check it out So he'll be the executive producer for this week. I have 333 33 and I do just want to so wait a minute We have no associate. No. No, I do want to say that he did this coin challenge and

05:59 where he would instead of 60% of the of the revenue not profit but of the revenue of the coins he was going to give 75% if we could if 33 people bought 30 the coins within 33 hours or something like that I can't remember it was like That's something really good. Well anyway, we surpassed it by a mile. This is great. And I gotta tell you, these coins are beautiful. Did you get yours yet? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I see the pictures at noagendafans.com. They're just fantastic. And what a great way to raise money for the show. And if anybody doesn't know what a challenge coin is, Adam will be glad to explain it. Yeah, I actually have one. I'm not going to go into the whole history. It's on the website. But I actually received one when I was with the Dutch Marines in Iraq.

06:46 and the whole idea is you carry it with you because at any moment anyone who was there can call a coin check on you. If you don't have your coin, you've got to buy a round of drinks. If you do have your coin, then the challenger has to buy a round of drinks. But of course the underlying significance of these coins goes much deeper. So let me ask you a question I never thought to ask. Has this coin ever come in handy to get a free drink? Ever? Yes. Three times. Well three several times in the Netherlands and one time in San Francisco It wasn't an actual challenge, but I was talking to a US Marine. This was Halloween I think I told you about that the guy who went into like the 2,000 yard stare Because he was really like messed up from everything he had seen over there. Well, you don't remember this conversation yeah, I know I remember it vaguely, but he had is he had a coin and I had my own coin and I

07:45 Think we both bought drinks It was a lot of drinks. I don't really remember But I have had challenges of course and get my I can attest to the fact that you do carry this coin around yeah It's good luck as well, and now I'm just gonna add another one to the mix. I've got my one ounce gold coin I've got my Iraq challenge coin and when we receive it I The agenda coin no agenda coin and love Paul for for doing that fantastic idea I never even knew about any of this before you showed me that crazy coin you have a couple of PR associate mentions So, of course Paul at the top of the list with the no agenda fans calm challenge coins only 100 being made Although he's considering doing a second run because of the popularity

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

Sysadmin Day, Bank of America Workplace Listening

The hosts acknowledge Sysadmin Day and thank system administrators for their technical support. A listener from Bank of America reports that they can no longer play the podcast openly in the office after a coworker took offense to disparaging remarks made about the banking institution. The segment touches on the difficulties of listening to controversial content in corporate environments.

sysadmin day· bank of america· irc networks· fluoride· workplace etiquette

08:31 A big shout out to all the sysadmins who of course will eventually save the world when Armageddon comes. Tomorrow is sysadmin day, so make sure you hug your sysadministrator. Or not, as the case may be. Oh shit, what'd I just do? That was really dumb. What'd you do? Well there's a... I was trying to hide something on my Mac and I did... Hide others Have you ever done that? No. Well, basically your whole screen goes blank because it hides all applications except the one you were working on. No Okay, here we go I'm back Here's a couple of handy tips to help promote the show producer Sigma says

09:16 I'm a admin so happy admin to you to you for tomorrow I administer several IRC networks and I've synchronized all of my greetings either when I enter as a the channel also the channel server the bot server messages I'll say in the morning to you the best part of waking up is fluoride in my cup all his virtual hosts are no agenda dot ITM so this is good nice yes I think that's a great idea everyone and of course no agenda chat.com has similar things already could what network see on it doesn't say no doesn't say

09:53 Then, John, where I thought you actually did a solid for our PR, I got a note from producer Nathaniel, just thought I'd drop you a quick line. I'm a Bank of America employee. I used to play No Agenda in the office. After the disparaging remarks about the company, a co-worker took offense. Now I have to listen on headphones. Okay, good job a Coworker took a fan. Yeah, I would she be love the female persuasion for I'm sure yeah Let's see. Thank me that you know why because I bitched about the feds of the Bank of America, which is a bank a Hellishly bad bank. Yeah, it's been taken over by women. Yeah, we're not equating one to the other but it's just just point is the coincidence a coinky dingus and

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

Basil Marceau, Tennessee Gubernatorial Candidate, Gun Rights

Basil Marceau, a Republican candidate for Governor of Tennessee, is highlighted for his unconventional campaign platform. Marceau advocates for the recall of all gun permits to allow open carry, the removal of gold-fringed flags from state buildings, and the cessation of traffic stops based on Supreme Court rulings. The hosts analyze his campaign video, noting his unique rhetorical style and potential listener status.

basil marceau· tennessee· republican candidate· gun permits· gold-fringed flags

10:41 producer Bob Henderson from Eugene, Oregon Suggests he's everyone's Everyone I guess people who do feel we provide value but feel that we're you know obviously not pulling in the money We need to certainly not to get into a third show, but to do it full-time Although maybe I'll just have to take a jump ahead of that. I've been threatening that I'm gonna do it one of these days says consider this put a wall of female listener pictures up on the no agenda home page and That's an interesting this might encourage more women to become involved and yeah, and I thought to myself. Yeah, that's great But you know what we really need we need a no agenda female listener calendar You know it's like Great. We only need 12. I think we have 12 don't we? Say yeah, that would be awesome. We have a new site that popped up no agenda board.com as in B o a RD a new forum and

11:41 So you can find that in the links that rock and then this has to be the PR associate of the week this video has been doing the rounds actually the first was in the media office He showed it to me because this is a guy running for the next governor of Tennessee. Oh, yeah, geez come on It's funny. No, it's South Carolina. Oh I was pretty sure why would first lives in Nashville. It's the only reason he'd he'd show it to me. So anyway, let me just play this because You can't understand a word of it. Why are you playing the most important word? You can't understand before is working for you to help you make it because it's this guy and first of all he has He has the profile. It could be one of our one of our listeners and

12:31 And he actually promotes the show and there's no other way that this guy is a listener. I mean, just listen to him. We hear from Basil Marceau. Basil! I'm Basil Marceau dot com, the Republican candidate for governor. I'd like to recall all permits and registrations for guns. Everyone can carry guns. If you kill someone, no, you get murdered. I mean, you go to jail. And I'd like to plant grass or vegetation across the state where I need to make a lot and sell it for gas. so we can use it for our expenses. Also, I'm going to remove all gold-fringed flags from the state and apply the real flag with three stripes. I also want to stop traffic stops. Set it up like the Supreme Court rule in the Nohs v. Iowa. You can't find emmits in a car, you can't look. I want you all to vote for Basil Marceau.

13:21 I want you to say the pledge of allegiance to a republic in the morning when you come out. Come on, come on. That's a blatant plug. Yeah, that's a plug. I want y'all to pledge allegiance in the morning to the flag. I mean, come on. It's possible. Come on. So I guess he is from Tennessee, but is this a takeoff on that other guy who's another you do do this candidate have a lot like i or not south carolina i love anyway so thank you all for your ideas and for weighing in that of course is a highly appreciated as is uh... are executive producer on his way to uh... a certain knighthood paul couture who also of course has been known that to do with some outstanding art for the show as well everyone else out there something to do you need to go out and propagate our formula which is pretty simple

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

WikiLeaks Afghan War Diary, Poppy Production Omission

The release of 70,000 leaked documents regarding the war in Afghanistan by WikiLeaks is scrutinized for its lack of information regarding Afghan poppy production. The hosts suggest the leak may be a "Ministry of Truth" operation designed to distract the public or push specific intelligence agency agendas. A clip of Laura Ingraham and Nancy Giles debating the political fallout of the leak on Fox News is played to illustrate mainstream media reactions.

wikileaks· afghanistan· poppy fields· laura ingraham· ministry of truth

14:09 We go out we hit people in the mouth, okay? Audience participation time say with me now So I a record a record 200 tagged stories and emails for this show it's it's the more listeners we get the The more stories come in, amazingly the less money we seem to bring in. But, wow! It's taking, just think about it, 200 stories. I touch them three times essentially per episode. It's amazing how much time is spent on prepping for this show. The show notes are like out of control today. Well, we might as well start talking about the elephant in the room, of course. Which is the leaked... Oh, the WikiLeaks? Yeah.

15:12 You know what surprises me? Of course we have discussed this many times and we bring into question whether this perhaps is just Ministry of Truth at work and that WikiLeaks could just be a distractive front for some government agencies. How come there's not a single document in 70,000 documents about the poppies? Yeah, there's none whatsoever. Not a single thing. I mean, what is that about? So what you did just tells you what agency it was that was behind this whole thing. Yeah, it's just I Mean, what do you have anything more to say about it other than it bogus? I mean and half the reports I think I spent about an hour of my life which I'll never get back looking at the at the WikiLeaks site Half of them are from a Jean France press AP is like newswire stuff. I

16:07 Yeah, the whole thing is pretty, but it's amazing how it just sucked all the life out of the entire news media and they're just preoccupied with this thing with, you know, here's an interesting clip. We have the, this is the hen house clip. where we have Laura Ingram, who's a right-wing radio host, talking to her friend who's a left-wing radio host. And it's interesting as they go yacking back and forth about this whole thing and what it means and who said what and how it affects Obama. And then they agree on something, which I thought was kind of interesting, because it's like the point of agreement

16:48 which is like just idiotic. Why don't you play this? What channel is this on? What final station? This is on our fabulous Fox. Of course, great. It's not the commander in chief, Nancy. Your guy is the commander in chief. But you're talking about the political fallout of this. So that's the question. So the political fallout is that you're using released information that should have been completely jeopardized our troops to cite the failure of the war in Afghanistan. I'm not doing that at all. I'm asking you about the Democrats.

17:35 No, no, no, no, no. You're not understanding what I'm asking you. I'll ask it again. The Democrats are frustrated with this president. I'm focusing on intra-democratic disunity. I want us to win in Afghanistan, kick tail and win. That's what I'm focusing on, Nancy. I'm not focusing on George Bush. That old saw has really worn thin. People get sick of the George Bush thing. Democrats, focus on that. Laura, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of you looking to these documents to say, look, this war is failing when it was really a Republican war. You didn't find any of the information in the documents interesting. I think the person who leaked them should be prosecuted, by the way. The Democrats, I do too. We agree on that. And the Democrats, I got to say, of course,

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Afghanistan Quality of Life Statistics, Taliban vs. CIA

A comparative list of quality-of-life metrics in Afghanistan under the Taliban versus the current administration is analyzed. While metrics like school enrollment and cell phone ownership have increased, the hosts highlight that the world's illicit opium supply from the region rose from 70% to 89%. They also note the irony of improved healthcare statistics appearing alongside a decrease in average life expectancy from 47 to 44 years.

afghanistan· taliban· cia· life expectancy· opium supply

18:14 Yeah, let's throw the guy in jail. I want to win the war and turn tail. That's what I'm focused on. Like, why don't you strap on? Strap on your dildo and go do it. John, my goodness, what are you saying? Here's the deal. Win the war who is going to this is exactly like the Iraq war who's gonna come over and sign the surrender papers How do you win? What's the guy's name? Just give me the guy's name There was a who's gonna sign the surrender papers that so you can actually have won the war car's eye There was a funny report in the show notes, noagendashow.com about what has changed in Afghanistan and here's how you can really see how the economic hitmen have gone to work there. So the three columns, one is of course the item, then under the Taliban and then today, which I guess would be under the CIA. Children enrolled in school, 900,000, none of them girls. Today more than 6 million, one third of which are girls. Well, sounds good.

19:17 Afghans with access to some form of health care, 9% under the Taliban, today 85%. Wow, that's better than we're doing in our country. Maybe we should focus our efforts here. Access to information under the Taliban, you only had Taliban-run radio stations, today 60 radio channels, 8 TV stations, 500,000 internet users. My gosh, I bet you they have E. They must have the E channel over there. They'd be rocking. They're more up to speed on Mel than we are. Wait, wait, wait. This is bogus anyway. That's not true. They used to, before the, even during the Taliban era, they had satellite. Yeah, they had a whole bunch of soap operas that the Afghans liked. Let me just finish the list. It gets better. Phone ownership. Now this is where the E comes from. Where's this list come from?

20:05 I'm sorry, I don't know. It's a it's a repo. So I don't know right away from the CIA. Okay Yeah, probably phone ownership under the Taliban 40,000 landlines today 10 million cell phone users Huzzah. Yeah, Verizon AT&T who would it be? Proportion of the world's illicit opium supply produced by Afghanistan 70% under the Taliban. Today we're up 89% We're doing good. They just casually throw that in. And then my favorite is life expectancy under the Taliban 47 years. Today 44 years.

20:48 That's what you're improved health care. Oh, yeah, that's because it well, that's because of this You probably gonna get killed by a drone exit. That's right. You get shot by a drone. You should get shot. Oh Yes, it's so much fun Yeah, so WikiLeaks, please So yeah, no, the whole thing is a scam. So it's fun to watch it though Cuz everybody gets all worked up about it. Oh And of course, you know, the hidden dial, I'm always looking for what's the hidden message. Because if it's like an intelligence agency that actually, you know, kind of combed through this stuff, they would take out, of course, the poppy information. But they would have to have their message in. There's a message. What is the message? Do you have any idea? I think I know what it is.

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Pakistan ISI, Taliban Support, New York Times Reporting

The WikiLeaks documents are discussed in the context of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and its alleged support for the Taliban and the Haqqani network. Mark Mazzetti of the New York Times explains the process of vetting the leaked documents with the White House to protect national security and informants. The hosts argue that the information about the ISI has been known for years and that the "advanced leak" to major publications suggests a coordinated marketing effort.

isi· pakistan· taliban· mark mazzetti· new york times

21:38 It's a message that they've been trying to promote for years and nobody's paying attention, so these documents kind of push it. And I do have it as one of the clips here on one of the shows, this time on MSNBC, which is to reveal the fact that... And this, by the way, goes back to 9-11, that the ISI the inter-government security side, I don't know what it's even stands for. It's the Pakistani CIA. Yes. Intergovernmental Services is something I don't know. Anyway, the ISI is the operation that set up the Taliban.

22:20 and it dubby in the early days and they are responsible for a lot of uh... you know maintain your keeping those some of the according to some sources everyone's every time i bring this up some pakistan you send me a nasty note seriously and they were there the ones who have kept a bar or or or sama uh... safe and is so they did but nobody's paying any attention to this so they didn't so it so you get this clip cia versus i a side and that's uh... pretty much uh... as far as they can go with it. If nobody wants to buy into it, then it's just a lost cause. Yeah, the advance leak to three publications that were sent. Advance. Advance leak. Yeah, two weeks in advance so they could work up some stories. So yeah, this is like rolling out a product with non-disclosures, right?

23:21 It's just a complete marketing scam, but they, you know, the New York Times bought into it. Of course, the New York Times is interesting when, this is a guy from the New York Times, he says that, you know, they didn't think twice about the fact that they got an advanced copy, and then he didn't think twice about going and taking the coverage over to the White House and saying, is it okay if we say this? Is it okay if we say that? Hello Ministry of Truth, hello, hello. It's unbelievable. Can we do this? And that's just the way it is. National Security Correspondent Mark Mazzetti who joins us now from Washington. Mark, to the White House point, is this reporting harmful to national security? We took very great care over the last few weeks to sift through the documents and when we decided to ultimately publish the documents and the content to make sure that they didn't contain information that we thought was directly harmful. For instance, the names of Afghan informants who have been working with coalition troops, the names of specific officers

24:20 We've really done the resource, we're really protecting our national security and make sure that our troops are really safe. You know, we're really good journalists and we protect all of our sources. ...who are working in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And we approached the White House late last week and told them what we had had and had a dialogue with them over the last few days before we published. And they were quite aware that what we were going to publish, not in specific content, but we took very great pains to make sure that specific sources and methods of information were not revealed.

24:58 Now it is hard to choose the hottest news here, the most disturbing revelations in these documents. Hold on a second. So some of these things and sources, they were not revealed. So that is available on the site? I mean, apparently... Which makes the whole concept ludicrous. Yeah. To the point of the Pakistani intelligence service actually helping the Taliban, working with the Taliban, planning missions with the Taliban. We do not have documentation on that prior to now, do we? No, we don't. And the Times and other news organizations for a couple of years have talked about and written about how the Pakistan spy service, the ISI,

25:39 is believed to directly help out not only the taliban but groups like the hakani network and uh... a group led by a guy named hekmatyar and this is the belief among the u.s. intelligence community even and they even are believed to have been involved in the two thousand eight embassy bombing the indian embassy bombing in kabul but these documents have actual named operatives they talk about uh... meetings on specific... whatever So they've been trying to get this into the public domain, this information, so now maybe this will do it. I mean the whole thing is rigged. Meanwhile, I'm sure something interesting is going to happen today. This will be a big C-SPAN day for me, certainly. I got a whole bunch of calls and stuff lined up. It's going to be important because the president is on The View.

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Mental Health Diagnostics, Lisbon Treaty, EU Charter Article 52

A trend in mental health reporting is identified, linking the "celebrity effect" of figures like Stephen Fry to a rise in bipolar diagnoses. The hosts connect this to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) and the Lisbon Treaty's Article 52.3, which allows for the detention of individuals deemed "mentally ill" or of "unsound mind" in Europe. Similar trends are noted in California, where UCLA research suggests one in five adults may need mental health care.

mental health· lisbon treaty· article 52.3· stephen fry· ucla research

26:31 Oh yeah. And that will dominate the news. Everything will be forgotten. That will dominate everything today. Yeah, it'll be a lame conversation. Well yeah, well first of all, who cares? Right? Whatever. Whatever. We apparently do because I'm taping it. Well shouldn't it, has it already aired on the East Coast? Yeah, pretty sure it has. So someone probably knows. But that to me that's it. I'm thinking why is he doing this well because there's a distractions I mean a big distraction huge distraction clearly we've got a Distraction hey, I am I think I'm on to something and get get more nation East and the United States of Europe in general and

27:26 Couple of really weird reports coming out and all of a sudden last night as I'm prepping round two of prep it strikes me So there's a lot of mental illness talk and most of it from the BBC. So the first story Mental illness has long been considered been considered a stigma with people often going to great lengths to hide the fact they have problems but apparently According to this BBC story because many celebrities Stephen Fry being the one highlighted in this story Claimed to be bipolar and we know that Stephen Fry I think has even tried to commit suicide That this is now becoming very popular for people to say. Oh, I'm bipolar and and this doctor is Is saying it's the celebrity effect okay, so that's like hmm all right interesting. You know what's the point of the story? I'm not quite sure but then we get this one

28:19 Headline, mental health are we all sick now? Well, hold on. Diagnosing psychiatric illness has always been controversial. Mental health experts say now some are worried that a new draft of the diagnostic Bible for mental health medicine could result in almost everyone being diagnosed with some form of mental condition. Now this is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association. And I guess in a way, depending on how you look at it, you could say that everyone has some form of mental illness. But here they are basically saying, oh okay, this is the diagnostic Bible. Anyone can be diagnosed with a form of mental illness. And then it hit me. John, something we talked about over two years ago when I was pulling apart the Lisbon Treaty.

29:14 Now of course the Lisbon Treaty ratified now essentially the law in Gitmo nation Europe, United States of Europe. And remember that in order to because they first had the Constitution France and the Netherlands voted it down and then they made the Lisbon Treaty and what they did is they took the same words hustled them around a little bit and then moved a bunch of stuff into protocols and charters. Remember this? Yep. And I want to remind you of EU Charter Article 52.3. This is the ECHR, the European Charter of Human Rights, and it has to do with... Well, here's the legal explanation of your freedom in the United States of Europe. And you are, of course, free to roam about. However, you can be arrested and detained

30:18 under a couple of exemptions. One is if you have a contagious disease, are mentally ill, or if you are an alcoholic or a vagrant. So to me... That covers most of the Europeans. Yeah, but to me it seems like now that everyone essentially can be deemed mentally ill... Yeah, no, that's it. But I don't think it's just a European thing and let me just cite a story. But this is law now. I mean, there's a huge difference. It's one... Yeah, I know, but they're gonna... I think they're gonna lead that... Like you said, the EU and the whole Gitmo Nation East is a kind of the lab

30:58 for what we're gonna end up stuck with and let me just read you an article from the Los Angeles Times July 28th one in five Californians say they need mental health care. Ah, here we go you're so right. Almost five million California adults say they could use help with a mental or emotional problem according to a survey released Wednesday by researchers at UCLA One million of them meet the criteria for quote serious psychological distress. And that's just in my neighborhood. Minimally. So there's something going on here with this bull crap. Well as a beta testing ground they've certainly succeeded because it is law. It's in the charters as a part of the protocols that you can be detained legally if you are of actually they say of unsound mind which is even more broad

31:49 if you're an alcoholic, drug addict, or a vagrant, or if you have an infectious disease, which of course could be H1N1, all kinds of stuff. But to see these articles popping up all of a sudden, it's just like, oh, hold on a second. And just like Section 44 of the Terrorism Act in the United Kingdom, where you now essentially can be arrested for any reason just because someone says, I'm calling Section 44 on you. And then you can just get arrested and thrown in the brig no matter what you're doing. Just because you look like or smell like a terrorist. So, yeah, well. Luckily we already have a constitution here. A lot of people seem to have forgotten what's in it. And it wasn't the thousands of pages that the Lisbon Treaty was. It's quite a simple booklet.

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Verizon Wireless Propaganda, Rule the Air Advertisement

The hosts critique a Verizon Wireless advertisement titled "Rule the Air," which features a series of young women delivering a manifesto about the power of ideas. Initially mistaken for a feminine hygiene product ad, the segment is slammed as a "piece of propaganda" with no clear commercial value. The hosts mock the dramatic tone and the "You are the network" branding strategy.

verizon· advertising· propaganda· rule the air· feminine hygiene

32:38 And as long as that doesn't change to add stuff like you can be arrested if you're of unsound mind then I think we're okay, but it's just a pen stroke away or in Obama's case 20 pen strokes because he's got to use a pen for everybody who's part of the legislation All right. Well, so what other dead so that's great That's awesome That's just fabulous well, I mean there's there's so much So much news that has been coming in. I mean, where do you want to go? Well, you want to take a... you want to do a little real news or something? I've got a new segment of the show I want to experiment with. Okay. Guess the name of the advertiser. Ooh!

33:25 Okay, so so I want you to play teen girl add one. Okay. This is guess guess the drug pusher I guess is should know I didn't say drugs it could be Way, I don't know okay anybody so I see 26 minute a second so I presume the End of it also you have to cuz you have to get I don't want you to like accidentally I can't find the button you know I win all right here we go no prejudice It does not carry the opinions of a man faster than those of a woman. It does not filter out an idea because I'm 16 and not 30. Air is unaware if I'm black or white and wouldn't care if it moved. So it stands to reason my ideas will be powerful if they are wise, infectious, if they are worthy. If my thoughts have flawless delivery, I can lead the army that will follow.

34:16 Okay, this is a feminine hygiene product. Lead the army that will follow. I don't know. They're so weird today. It's not a feminine hygiene product? Lead the army that will follow of pissed off women. So you have, by the way, I guess, you know, there's actually more girls, and these are girls, talking than it sounds, because they didn't do a very good job of voice casting, so they have, it sounds like the same person, but it's about 14 different women each year. Oh wow, I didn't hear that at all. The quick shot of their face is saying, and then I, and then another shot of somebody else's face, will lead the army that will follow, and you know, this kind of thing. What channel did this air on? This was on network TV big time. What were you watching?

35:03 I don't remember. Something dumb. It was something lame. But I should have paid attention to that because it's quite important. But I was so stunned by this ad that you can now... the reveal, you have to play the whole ad and then the reveal will be at the end. But you have no idea. You give me one guess. AT&T. Wow, why would you say that? Because I see a lot of stupid communications. You're still on the stupid. Stupid communi... it's like, I don't know, if it's not a feminine hygiene product, it's AT&T. It does not carry the opinions of a man faster than those of a woman.

35:43 filter out an idea because I'm 16 and not 30 air is unaware from black or white and wouldn't care if it moved so it stands to reason my ideas will be powerful if they are wise infectious if they are worthy if my thoughts have flawless delivery I can lead the army that will follow rule the air from Verizon oh Verizon interesting what a crock of crap yeah no okay wait a minute Verizon has these um You are the network, which is like you're the antenna and I isn't that what what is it? What they're saying you are the network What is compelling about this advertisement that would make me want to go? Oh, wow. Let me rush down right now and get a Verizon phone. I Don't know they seem to be doing that's what it's a piece of crap is what it is a piece of propaganda I don't know what the point of it is, but it made me irked

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Wyclef Jean, Haiti Presidential Run, Clinton Foundation

Wyclef Jean's decision to run for the presidency of Haiti is discussed as a potential US-backed maneuver. The hosts express skepticism regarding his charity work and suggest he is being positioned as the "Obama of Haiti" to facilitate redevelopment projects led by the Clintons and the UN. They predict a future where Port-au-Prince is marginalized in favor of new tourist developments on the north side of the island.

wyclef jean· haiti· bill clinton· presidential election· port-au-prince

36:39 You know, we really could make some extra money as consultants, advertising consultants. Geez. Yeah, we could do an ad like that and man, we should actually knock that ad off. Just get like Joe Engo and all the people in the office, each one saying one or two things very seriously and very tight close up of their face. I will lead the army that will follow. I will lead the army that will follow. Yeah, excellent. I loved seeing the news that Wyclef Jean has actually signed the documents to run in Haiti's presidential election. So this is the guy who was on the scene first with Bill Clinton. Lots of questions about his charity. Lots of questions.

37:27 And we know that the US is already meddling in the presidential election process there. And of course they need a great... I mean, wouldn't it be funny if he actually ran and won? I mean that would be like, okay. What do you mean? What do you mean funny? That's what this whole thing is designed for. He is going to run and win. I think you're right. I'm really afraid you're right. It's just so outrageous. Yeah, no, the whole thing is a scam and he's gonna run and win and then, you know, he's gonna be, he's amenable to the USA and we're gonna have, you know, and then he's gonna invite the Clintons and the rest of them, they're gonna build their hotels on the north side and create a new town and marginalize Port-au-Prince and let everyone drop dead and let the UN take over that part of it with their trailers and their big empty lots. All while he's playing a charity concert.

38:24 Yeah, he's the Obama of Haiti. Yeah, it makes sense. And then Bill will hop up on stage and play sax. Oh yeah, that has to happen. We haven't seen Bill play sax for a long time. Well, he has no air in his lungs. The guy's like out of breath. So there's this guy, Alec Ross, and I think we talked about him. One of his crazy charities, One Economy. Or something like that, which is a non-profit, which by the way got 55 million dollars from the stimulus. Hello! How does that work? Oh, did I mention that he is Hillary Clinton's technology guru and did the same for... He's been with the Clintons since he was 12 apparently. And so he has this big speech at Stanford and

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

Alec Ross, 21st Century Statecraft, Haiti Text Donations

Alec Ross, the Senior Advisor for Innovation to Hillary Clinton, is criticized for his presentation at Stanford regarding "21st Century Statecraft." Ross claims credit for the viral success of the $10 text-to-donate campaign for Haiti relief, which raised over $30 million. The hosts mock his use of buzzwords like "innovation space" and "Twitter sphere," arguing that the campaign was driven by mainstream media rather than organic social media growth.

alec ross· hillary clinton· state department· twitter· haiti relief

39:15 I guess he's responsible for the texting of the money to the Haiti charity. And I just listen to this and I'm like, is this guy for real? And then he parlays that into how he's going to save the problems in Mexico. And this is all done under the auspices of our future president of the United States of Gitmo, Hillary Clinton, because she's his boss. Clip's a little long, but you just listen to it and every four minutes you're going, what? Huh? Are you for real? A Stanford speech. Want to hear? Let's go back again. What's the guy's name? Alec Ross.

39:58 Alec Ross. And he's like the Clinton's personal CTO kind of thing? Yes, exactly. Well, it's not really, he doesn't... Okay, why don't you play that a little bit? He's not like a Vivek. He's not like a Vivek Kundra. This guy is more like, oh, he's a genius! He's so smart and saving the world with technology! Alec what? Ross. Alec Ross. Here I'll play it while you're looking. And so very few initiatives that we focused on using technology as something that can be empowering and can get people engaged in diplomacy and development in ways that weren't, you know, the case historically. One example. There was, in the hours after the earthquake in Haiti,

40:41 Um, there are these, these fantastic, uh, women who work in the innovation space at... What? What? The fan... these... they're... listen... Hey, what's that over there? What's that? Oh, that's the space for... that's the innovation space. Listen... Is there anybody working in there? Yeah, there's some women in there. And they got the... Listen, listen, look... It gets better because they're sitting in the innovation space and all of a sudden, lightning bolts! space at the State Department and they got the idea in the hours that followed the earthquake that you know hey hey tomorrow morning when people wake up and are having their morning coffee and they've heard about what happened in Haiti we should be able to do something so that those people hearing about this for the first time over that morning cup of coffee can do something right then. I love the finger snapping do something right

41:36 And so what they did is they worked with the private sector at the Secretary's direction to immediately stand up a program so that people who texted the word Haiti to a short code 90999 could donate $10 for earthquake relief. So, wait a minute now. What I'm understanding is Gibroni saying that the fine women under Secretary of State Clinton were sitting in the innovation space leading an army and they said I got an idea when people are having their coffee their morning coffee they should be able to take some money. I mean what is this bull crap? Well it's bull crap. It takes it much much further it gets great.

42:27 And at the time we thought you know... Sorry? What? There's a picture of him on Wikipedia and people should look him up there. Of course he's got his name is Alec Ross and then it says innovator is somehow I don't know how Wikipedia put that in there. Innovator in residence. But you see the guy and he is a classic Silicon Valley kind of you know... DOOSHBAG! Yes. Let's listen. And what happened... And that's bold too. Oh, we could raise a million. That would be historic. What happened... Was this campaign became viral over social media. Viral? Viral social media? The president went on television and promoted it. Along with the two shysters. Viral. Viral, please.

43:28 over the Twitter sphere and social media space. The Twitter sphere! I'm sorry, I can't help but mock this guy. Just, oh, he irks me. In other social media spaces. And once it became viral, in the days immediately after the campaign, in social media spaces, it was then adopted by the mainstream media. And eventually... That's so not true. No, it's not true. It's just the other way around. Exactly. But he really likes using the word spaces. Well, there's more spaces coming. More than 3 million Americans chose to use their cell phones to make a $10 donation and more than $30 million was raised for earthquake relief. He's like the Jason Calacanis of the Clinton camp. That's what this guy is. Now listen, now he goes off his rocker.

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Mexico Crime Reporting, Anonymous Texting Initiative

Alec Ross describes a new State Department initiative in Mexico designed to allow citizens to report cartel crimes via anonymous text messages. The program aims to bypass the fear of retaliation associated with visiting police stations in high-violence areas like Ciudad Juarez. The hosts express extreme skepticism regarding the technical possibility of true anonymity in such a system and mock Ross's refusal to explain the underlying technology.

mexico· ciudad juarez· drug cartels· alec ross· anonymous texting

44:17 Another example of the kind of 21st century statecraft that... 21st century statecraft? What the hell is that? I love it, but this is how your government talks, because this guy is in it. Secretary Clinton is leading, is an example south of our border here in Mexico. As I'm sure many of you are all too familiar with, The drug cartel fueled violence in Mexico is completely out of control. Thank you. It's a disaster. Disaster! John, say it with me now. It's a disaster! You gotta take that clip. By the way, was it 21st century statecraft? Was that the term? That's what I heard him say, yeah. Okay. It's completely out of control.

45:09 It's a disaster. Far too many people... You gotta play it one more time, I'm just loving it. Disaster in Mexico is completely out of control. It's a disaster. Far too many people are dying. Far too many? I mean, a couple is okay, but it's just out of control. It's a disaster! Too many people are dying. Especially at border towns like Ciudad Juarez. Notice now the first giveaway see that's what so he's doing the first giveaways. He spoke it almost Well, he's been down there He's working on a new plan and one of the things that the Secretary of State and our ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pasqual said is you know what we need to take a new and innovative approach to this an innovative approach to too many people being killed it's a Disaster yes, let's get some people from Silicon Valley

46:09 This is where I'm peeing my pants. Alert. Alert. I'm peeing. Red alert. Silicon Valley has been mentioned. Here it comes. To help us think through in creative ways what we could do differently, what is something new we could do. What is something new we could do? John, any ideas? I bet you it would have to do with text messaging. What do you think? And money. Oh, stand by. So we, so I and others were deployed down to Mexico to meet with the president's cabinet, to meet with people like Carlos Slim, to meet with leaders from civil society. And our goal was to come back with one idea that could help reduce

46:57 crime in Mexico. And so we came up with a program that is likely going to launch sometime in the fall based on what we learned down there, which was that the Mexican citizens themselves will no longer report crime by and large because they're afraid that if they walk up the literal or proverbial steps of the station house to report crime, they're going to get found out and will therefore be in danger. One of the things we learned while we were down there is everybody, even in the lowest income barrios and places like Ciudad Juarez, they all have cell phones and they all text message like crazy. So we've set up a program where people are going to be able to anonymously text message, and I could explain how that works, but that's not the best use of this time. Just take for granted, I'm telling the truth, people will be able to anonymously text message.

47:53 I don't have the time to explain how it's going to work. Just take my word for it. It will be anonymous. Please. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Alec Ross, douchebag of the week. There's an article about him and his buddy in the New York Times. I'll send you a link. I'll put it in the show notes. Jared Cohen. his is uh... he's the mentor to call when it looks like and uh... the two of them i look like is like kundra and that other guy uh... like pals you know there was a there was a thing about uh... kundra someone one of our producers sent that in that uh... i gotta go find it uh... apparently that all kinds of near the whole uh... indian cabal thing during their ten years together at the advisory board company

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

Vivek Kundra, Google, Recorded Future Predictive Analytics

The professional ties between federal IT officials like Vivek Kundra, Aneesh Chopra, and private entities like the Advisory Board Company are examined. The discussion moves to "Recorded Future," a company backed by Google and the CIA's investment arm, In-Q-Tel, which uses real-time web monitoring to predict future events. Additionally, a Department of Homeland Security document is cited, listing social networks and websites currently under government surveillance.

vivek kundra· google· recorded future· cia· homeland security

48:47 This jabroni named Zeentz, who is also in the administration, successfully led the company's public offering as its CEO while Chopra, this is our chief technology officer, because Kundra is the chief information officer. Chopra brought his experience on health care to the administration and since championed top health care priorities like digitizing medical records and implementing a system to create an online market for health insurance coverage. And just interesting enough, Vivek Kundra's wife was on the executive board of advisory board company.

49:33 So these guys are all tied in, all tied into the digitization, to all of the IT stuff for the healthcare scam. and uh... and there are a little bit of a little buddy buddy what's interesting is that cohen appears to be headed to google uh... and there's a little quote here says the google place in mountain view the next day ross and cohen took the director's chairs next to schmidt and ceo for some fireside chat and there is a fireside chat so something's up well there's another uh...

50:12 Actually Wired published this, when did this come out? Just today. Investment arm of the CIA and Google are both backing a company that monitors the web in real time and says it uses that information to predict the future. The company is called Recorded Future, scours tens of thousands of websites, blogs and Twitter accounts to find the relationships between people, organizations, actions and incidents both present and still to come. And this is a part of the Department of Homeland Security who released a document this week saying that they are actively scanning social networks and in Exhibit A

50:55 They list all of the websites that they are monitoring and I was very disappointed to see that No Agenda Show is not on the list. Good thing. Meanwhile Hulu is on there. You lose just a bunch of TV. I'm just telling you it's in there monitor watches monitor the networks But they also say they are monitoring the Twitter API so I guess they have the the big fire hose they have a hook up there mm-hmm newspapers on Twitter Facebook they monitor all of Facebook It's good to know you're being watched cam dot info

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

Timothy Geithner, Bush Tax Cuts, Healthcare W-2 Reporting

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's appearance on Meet the Press is used to discuss the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. The hosts argue that the term "tax cuts for the rich" is a Democratic talking point, as the original cuts were applied across the board to all tax brackets. They also highlight a provision in the new healthcare bill requiring employers to report health insurance costs on employee W-2 forms, which they characterize as a hidden tax increase.

timothy geithner· bush tax cuts· irs· obama· middle class

51:33 That's to make sure the chemtrail thing doesn't get out of control. You know, I don't want anyone really talking No brother, I just thought it was for the second half. Well, what can I tell you? It came up all of a sudden? Okay. Well, that's more depressing news that no wonder nobody's giving us any money Why because we depress him apparently I mean you're depressing me. Oh Hey, by the way, I got a buzzword clip. Okay. See if you can figure out the buzz with the buzz term. Is it a buzzword or a meme? It's actually a both. Okay. It's a meme in term in the form of a buzzword. It's actually not a buzzwords, a buzz phrase, but see if you can spot the fact that you just just like completely, why are you using this term to describe the situation unless you've been either told to or you've you've decided to, or you're just following the Democrat

52:28 Party talking points, but here's a local news report from Diane Dwyer from the Northern California And she she brings it in Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is painting a positive picture for the future of the US economy on NBC's meet the press this morning Geithner said he does not believe this recession will be a double dip in recession, meaning things would get worse again before getting better. He said that while it's only natural Americans are still living with fiscal caution, the economy, he insists, is on the mend despite high unemployment. He went on to say that allowing tax cuts for the wealthy to expire is also the right thing to do right now.

53:06 The right thing for the country, the fair thing, the responsible thing for the country now is to make sure we leave in place and preserve tax cuts that go to more than 95% of working Americans and complement those with a set of incentives for businesses to expand and hire. to make that possible. 2010 is the last year President Bush's tax cuts for the rich are in effect, but many Republicans want them to be extended. Dozens of homes and businesses were damaged. So what is it? I mean I heard it. Tax cuts for the rich. Oh, but that's been going on for weeks. I know, I'm just saying, why is a local news person using the term tax cuts for the rich? It's a Democratic talking point. It's not tax cuts for the rich, it never was. It was tax cuts across the board for everybody. It just so happens the rich were in the list.

53:52 But it wasn't tax cuts for the rich. Which tax cuts are they actually talking about? The Bush tax cuts. I know, but what were they? What were the tax cuts? Because it was just like something like a 10 or so percent. It was just a tax cut. It was just a lowering of all taxes for everybody. Oh, because I'll tell you it worked on me because I thought that there was a set of tax cuts that the Bush administration put into place that only were applicable to the higher tax brackets. That's literally the way it was imprinted on my mind. That's not true? No, it was across the board tax cuts. Huh, but they're expiring, right? It's a democratic talking point. Here's what the argument was. Here I am, you know, being the democrat strategist, I'm saying, well, these tax cuts, why do we get, we're having a tax, let's say we're going to cut everybody's taxes by 10%. Why am I cutting the riches tax? Because we'd like to have it progressive. We can cut the regular, the, the,

54:47 middle class's taxes by 10% and cut, let's cut the richest tax taxes by 2% or let's don't cut it at all they don't need any tax cuts. This is tax cuts for the rich. Why are we giving the rich a tax cut? It was a tax cut for everybody. But what, in what way was it, I'm just trying to figure out what... They just lowered the schedule. The rate, they just lowered the rate in general. Yeah. Really? Yeah, you had a tax cut, I had a tax cut. Yes, the rich had a tax cut too, but they weren't, you know, they weren't, obviously they didn't do the progressive thing, which is where you have, you know, the tax cuts maximized at the bottom and minimized at the top, so it's not all the same. The Bush's made it all the same. I didn't know that. I mean, I was totally bought into the talking points.

55:35 Jesus. So you thought that there was actually some taxes for the rich? Yeah, well I'm not rich so I'm like I didn't get no I don't know about no tax cut. You'll see the difference when they when they end these tax cuts. I also saw that from the health care bill now what your employer spends on your health care will actually be added to your W-2 so it will be counted as income. So you'll have to pay tax over the health care that you're receiving from your employer, which I guess previously was not that way. Right. This is a tax increase. If anybody doesn't see it that way, they're crazy. No, I see it that way. There's no more taxes for the people making less than $250,000. It's according to Obama's big promise. What is this? Is this a tax increase or not? No, it's just a fee. Collected by the IRS. It's not the same thing as a tax.

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Wall Street Reform Act, SEC Disclosure, Carbon Trading

The Wall Street Reform Act is criticized for containing language that exempts the SEC from public disclosure requirements under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Furthermore, the hosts point out sections of the bill that mention the oversight of carbon markets and derivatives. They note that the Chicago Carbon Exchange is now listed as a commodity on the Bloomberg iPhone app, signaling the institutionalization of carbon trading.

sec· wall street reform act· carbon trading· chicago carbon exchange· bloomberg

56:35 Oh, wow. Yeah, that's awesome. That's really cool. The Eric the shill actually sent me I think he sent it to you as well. It's quite amazing how the Fox business which of course nobody watches So we have an exclusive report, exclusive standby, exclusive report. It turns out that there's some bad nefarious language in the Wall Street Reform Act. Like, well, if you just read it, then how exclusive is that? But they call it exclusive because... It's exclusive! Yeah, you want to hear this? This is kind of interesting. Yeah, might as well. I mean... Oh, screw it.

57:17 free roll. So I'll just tell you what it is. The SEC, according to language in the Wall Street Reform Act, which I call the Federal Reserve Empowerment Act, will no longer have to disclose information publicly, even under a freedom of information request. Which is good. What? Yeah, listen to it. Here's the story. Yeah, even if there's a Freedom of Information Act request, the SEC will no longer have to comply with making information public. But now we have for you a Fox business exclusive. Exclusive, exclusive! President Obama hailed the new... This is where you're supposed to say, make clips! Make clips! It's stuck. Stupid. Oh, Fox, what are you doing? Alright, anyway, just take it from me.

58:09 So they no longer have to disclose information publicly. It's great. Yeah, that's great. And while we're at it, I might as well just tell you if you actually have the document, you can download it. You know, this stuff is public and since your representatives are voting on it, you might just want to check it out from time to time. Page 373, page 374 is where literally a carbon trading platform is mentioned. Oh really? Sure. Here it is. They just can't get off of this. They just got to do this carbon trading thing. Including recommendations for the oversight of existing and prospective carbon markets to ensure an efficient, secure, and transparent carbon market, including oversight of spot markets and derivative markets. It's not just a carbon trading market. It's a carbon derivative trading market. My computer is... Well, I can leverage that. John, hold on a second. My computer just froze. Oh shit.

59:11 Wait, are we back for playing Fox Clips? Hold on. We're playing Fox Clips and the computer froze. I hope the stream was still out there. We're back. Yeah, no, it's a so it by the way the blue machine you run it on anyway. Yeah, the Bloomberg iPhone app now has the the Chicago carbon exchange as one of the commodities listed in it. Oh really? Oh yeah. Totally. Yeah, it's happening. No matter what we say or do, no matter what the public thinks, no matter what, which by the way just amounts to another tax, this carbon crap is going to continue on its merry way and we're just going to, you know, why don't they just come over right now and take my testicles and just, you know, reach in my pockets and take every cent they can find. I'm not going to have any money left. That's right.

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

MADD Charity Rating, Binge Drinking Narrative

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) has received a "D" rating from the American Institute of Philanthropy due to high fundraising costs and executive salaries. The report indicates that only one-third of the charity's budget is available for actual charitable work. The hosts link this to a broader media narrative regarding "binge drinking" and obesity, which they view as a precursor to increased regulation.

madd· american institute of philanthropy· fundraising· binge drinking

1:00:04 Well, maybe if we if we get a lot of people to buy no agenda challenge coin challenge coins will get through it Yeah, at least we can encourage more drinking. Oh geez Binge drinking is now big on the radar. Yeah. Oh my goodness It's just been everyone's talking about binge drinking binge drinking New York Times set teen sex binge drinking obesity that now it's all all in one and And although I was quite happy to see that the Mothers Against Drunk Driving charity has now been downgraded to a D rating from the American Institute of Philanthropy. These are some of the people behind all of this lunacy, by the way. You know, it used to be a pretty good idea, you know. It's like, yeah, we don't want people driving around drunk and killing our kids, but now they're just against... They don't want you to drink at all. According to the AIP,

1:00:59 It should cost most charities $35 or less to raise $100. In some years, Mothers Against Drunk Driving has spent nearly double that amount. In 2008, Mothers Against Drunk Driving spent almost $30 million on salaries and fundraising, leaving just one-third of its budget available for charitable work and victim services. This is bad. Yeah, this is very very bad. Yeah, very very bad. Well. I think we should maybe do some fundraising of our own right now That would be a very good idea actually so I wanted to mention that the show is a hundred percent user supported listener supported produced and financed by you with the listener and if you haven't donated something I wish you would because we summer has been very grim and

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

Listener Donations, Global Geek News, Computer America

The hosts read letters from donors, including a graduate student at Princeton and a listener from Colorado. One host mentions a recent appearance on the Global Geek News Podcast and an upcoming guest-hosting spot on Computer America. They discuss the pacing and commercial load of traditional radio compared to the value-for-value model of their own podcast.

isaac yang· herbert harms· princeton· computer america· geek news

1:01:52 but let's thank a few people who did. Isaac Yang in Toronto, Ontario. $133.32. Hey John and Adam, not much of a donation, but to start I'm starting a monthly donation next month. I have two projects that I can use some karma with and to show a little appreciation to your show and not to mention I don't want to stay a douchebag. Well, I guess since the donation is in... You've been de-douched. That's that little thing at the end that gets me. Herbert Harms, from Great Bend, Kansas.

1:02:30 uh... john adam the hundred dollars he was under bucks a loss to show please listen every episode is enjoyed watching the show involves uh... the maybe she says that i want to how it evolves we understand ourselves and the graduate student intellectual engineering at princeton so he's not as you know living in great bend at the moment and appreciate the time you put into finding new stories i don't have time to search out myself some of your conclusions may be a stretch But it's interesting all the same as you say, well he's going to Princeton. I mean he's gonna be thinking, you know, I mean he must be scrambling his brain. As you say, value for value. So I'm making a second donation to the show. I'm a huge fan of French wine and recently picked up a couple of bottles of 2007 Cote d'Oron and John's suggestions. They're fantastic. By the way, if you find the Delas, D-E-L-A-S, which I think has been taken over by some huge conglomerate, then they got nothing but money. They're throwing it into the wine. You get a heck of a deal.

1:03:21 Jeremy Bray in Pueblo, Colorado, $75 donating $75 in honor of Adam's appearance on this week's episode of the Global Geek News Podcast, episode 75. You were on the Geek News? Yes I was. I did that on Tuesday? Yeah, Tuesday. I actually streamed it live at No Agenda Stream and this Friday I will be on Computer America. Which is, that's actually on radio stations. Yeah, I've been on Computer America a couple times. Is it good? Is it a good show? It's not bad. It's paced like a classic radio show. Lots of commercials? Very professional. Lots of commercials.

1:04:06 Which is the problem, especially with today's radio where you have about half and half or more commercials. You're going to see my frustration with that I'm sure. You're going to hear it when I'm doing the whole show, like two hours, I'm just hanging out as like a guest host. Oh yeah, that means you'll be a total of let's see, 12 minutes air time in two hours. This was great, I didn't have to do anything. Normally I'm tired after a two hour show. I'm just sitting back rolling up my tobacco. Disgusting to ads. listening to ads right jason price mcleod hill new brunswick canada fifty double nickels on the dime a guys love the show the listing close to two years fear that by myself a birthday present with value for value july twenty seventh dot is the day so this will be on the show the day after i guess he has a uh... birthday who i think is on the list is official d douching and even though i have helped in the past by sending in articles and comments i'd like to know that i've started reading

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

Brave New World, Aldous Huxley, NPR Corporate Sponsorship

A discussion on Aldous Huxley's Brave New World suggests the book's vision of a society controlled by entertainment and drugs is more accurate to the present day than Orwell's 1984. The hosts then pivot to a job posting for a Director of Corporate Sponsorship at NPR, noting that the public broadcaster's sales goals and agency relationships mirror those of commercial networks like CBS or Clear Channel.

aldous huxley· brave new world· npr· corporate sponsorship· public domain

1:05:00 Oh, geez. Anyway, Atlas shrugged. I won't play the jingle just for you, baby. Shrugged, shrugged, but at 68 hours, always been listening to Audible. Not sure I have enough time to finish it by any time soon. So he's never going to get through the book. Actually, I wanted to ask you about that. There's another book I think I probably should have read by, what is it, Adolphus Huxley? What's his name? Aldous Huxley? Yeah. What's the name of the book? Brave New World. Brave New World. I'm hearing from a lot of people that we're much closer to what he predicted than George Orwell for instance in 1984 that we're much closer to a society that doesn't care because we're too wrapped up with entertainment and drugs. And yes, basically television and dope. A note to our entertainment and book club websites.

1:05:59 Al just Huxley's Brave New World. I'm reading it now. I got it on my eyes. It's a very short book. You can read it in one sitting. It's like when was it? When was it? When was it written? 30s. Late 20s, early middle 30s, something like that. Apple still charged me $2.99 for it. It's a public domain book, I think you can get it free, I think. You could be wrong. They made a nice cover. Just want to make a number of, also a call out to DUI-help.com, Barry Wilson and OKC Defensive Tactics who are still on the No Agenda Nighthood Layaway track. uh... so i think everybody go to know agenda show dot com go to the work that org slash and a or channel of work dot com slash and a to donate we really would appreciate it so we get out of this summer dole drums uh... with some uh... money in the bank so he's groups wrong one sorry

1:06:51 So first the belated birthday to Jason Price who also hit us up with double nickels in the dime Thank you very much. His birthday was on the 27th. Happy birthday to night Maj or nightmage from his wife Donina Donny Anna there you go Donny Anna even after 17 years. She says I can't find a better man Happy birthday to Joshua from the horse born on the 30th of June a potential new knight as I'm told here by his dad and a shout out to one of our

1:07:31 female listeners, one of the few hopefully to be on a calendar soon. Shana turns the big 4-0 today. Happy birthday to all of you from Adam and John. And the entire staff and management of the No Agenda Show. And as John correctly pointed out, it's a whole new way. It is what our national treasure actually used to be, really listener supported. Meanwhile, if you're in the market for a job, NPR is looking for a director of corporate sponsorship who will be based in Los Angeles, will coach and manage a team of representatives who secure corporate sponsorship for NPR on air and digital programming. And this is how it works. This is the NPM.

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Value for Value Model, Mothership Boarding Passes

The hosts reiterate their commitment to the "value for value" model, refusing corporate advertising to maintain editorial independence. They promote "boarding passes to the mothership," a limited-edition physical mailer for supporters, and encourage listeners to visit their websites for show notes and donation options.

value for value· mothership· dvorak.org· noagendashow.com· listener support

1:08:18 It's a subsidiary of NPR. It's co-owned by NPR, PBS, WGBH in Boston. NPM represents sponsorship opportunities in five lines of business, John. Can you guess what they are? uh... corrupt politics one network radio spot radio spot television network television and the digital platforms of npr dot org and pbs dot org well you can't possibly be reading from a an actual posting because those that sounds like you'd best outside the exact same job you'd have it cbs or clear channel

1:08:55 It's exactly what it is. Candidates should have a minimum of 10 years experience in national media sales and sales management with a proven track record of success in sales management as evidenced by numerical goal achievement, high retention of accounts, new business generation, established relationships with corporate and agency officials. Wait a minute, hold on a second. Explain this to me now they've with this kind of thing going on. Why are they asking for? listener donations Why does an NBC ask for listener donations when you watch it that you know one of their dramas that's next? Could be so they are the commercial let's just face it the commercial and when you have commercial interest then you can't cover news properly and that's why we refuse to do it and we believe that there is a better way we're just looking for value for value and

1:09:47 Yeah, let's do a bunch of ads anyway consider us and we still have tickets for the mothership when's the next mailing go out John? It's going out probably Tuesday. Okay, so that's boarding passes to the mothership which will whisk you away only 1,000 seats available actually 998 because John and I of course have to board and I don't know I may stay back You just put on the tracksuit and laid out on bed. Don't take me. I want to stay. Good. We now have 999 seats available on the mothership. You can see that special program also at Dvorak.org slash NA, ChannelDvorak.com slash NA and links to it from NoahJennerShow.com which is where we also have all of our show notes.

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

BP Financial Results, Tax Breaks, Congressional Hearings

BP's second-quarter financial results show a 34% increase in revenue despite the Gulf oil spill. The hosts explain how a $33 billion write-off for the spill response resulted in a $10 billion tax break for the company. They also discuss the $20 billion escrow fund managed by Kenneth Feinberg, noting that the funds are likely to be deposited in major banks like Goldman Sachs rather than local institutions.

bp· gulf oil spill· feinberg· goldman sachs· tax write-off

1:10:37 Please hook a brother up. And the show notes are worth the price of admission to this operation. Yeah, we got a lot today. It's actually it's quite extensive. I would have to say the the oil cabal, although we don't have to go through everything because now it now it's just getting ridiculous. I mean just absolutely ridiculous with all of the you know so the the CEO stepped down. Yeah, and with like 22 million in the bin his pocket or something like that. Well luckily now So of course BP reported their 2010 second quarter results now remember and I I laughed at this 30 billion dollar escrow account It's not a fund. Okay. It's not a it's an escrow account the money by the way has not been transferred There was a whole I didn't have time to pull clips from this 15 hour

1:11:28 session on the Hill where Feinberg is saying well the money hasn't been deposited and you know everyone wants to know what bank it's going to be deposited in. Shouldn't it go to small banks? Yeah guess what's gonna it's gonna go to Goldman and Citibank it's not gonna be deposited anywhere in some small bank but because they wrote off 33 billion dollars in in the past quarter They pay less taxes. In fact, it's about a $10 billion tax break they get. Coincidentally, and this is what slayed me, this is where it really, oh, this makes sense. This is from their own press release. The company stresses its strong underlying financial position. Revenue for the quarter was up 34% to $75.8 billion. So revenue up, taxes down.

1:12:23 revenue up, taxes down. It's a great system. It's the way it works. It's so incredibly smart. Now we're starting to see the media getting suckered into covering the new meme. Of course, you have to remember, and we've talked about this on the show before, we'll talk about it again. BP dropped I think what was it 30 to 60 million into public relations what was the number? Well they won't disclose it in fact I saw a congresswoman bitching about that. By the way I should have gotten clips because the the the guy who was what do they call that the chairman who was leading this session you probably know who he is.

1:13:06 You never see him on screen all you hear is without a Jackson It sounds black and he sounds like he like he's messed up It's like he's in the he's in the yeah, you know I'm talking about to the wind no I don't know who you're talking about but there's a lot of a lot of these guys are wasted These big lunches with these lobbyists and they, you know, or some other scam, they have to do it in some special way now, they can't just do the old-fashioned way. And they get plastered, and then they come back to do one of these sessions, and they're just like three sheets to the wind. It's ludicrous. I mean, literally, it's like, you know, can we have unanimous consent that Congress should be able to force BP to disclose how much money they've spent on marketing their image?

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Deepwater Horizon Technical Failures, Windows NT, SEC Investigation

Testimony from a Deepwater Horizon engineer reveals that the rig's computer systems were frequently crashing with the "blue screen of death" prior to the explosion. The systems were reportedly running an obsolete version of Windows NT from the 1990s. Additionally, the SEC is investigating suspicious trading of BP shares following the explosion, drawing parallels to unresolved airline option scandals from 9/11.

deepwater horizon· windows nt· blue screen of death· blowout preventer· sec

1:14:01 Literally like oh, okay So I did get one clip and this is a follow-on from the clip. I played on Sunday from this engineer who talks about the blowout preventer alarm being disabled And we know what now we know why John We know why. Alright. Yeah, but you told us we knew why last week. No, no, no, no, no, there's an actual reason. A real reason not to just not to wake people up? Yeah, there's a reason. Okay. Here it comes. Hold on. For three to four months, we've had problems with this computer simply locking up. Get what we they we even coined the term the blue screen of death.

1:14:50 Because it would just turn to a blue screen. He would have no no data coming through they coined a term well You know what dream world is guy living in the term well the guy is in a He's an engineer right so you know he doesn't know that but So so what do you think this blue screen of death comes from it comes from obviously comes from some? bootleg version of windows that they're running listen or God knows God knows. Inside the doghouse there's also a B chair. There's actually three chairs total, A, B, and C. I'm not sure, I thought he said beach chair first, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense, but it's actually, it's a B chair, whatever that is. And C is located in the assistant griller shack, which is, I don't know, some short distance away on the other side of the grill floor. We had ordered replacement hard drives from the manufacturer. Wait for it. We had actually ordered an entire new system. New computers, new servers, new everything to upgrade it.

1:15:51 from the very obsolete operating system that it was using. Those computers were actually using Windows NT. It's pretty old. That's from like 1994. Well, NT I think came out around 97, but it came out before the year 2000, that's for sure. So they're using an old clunking machine that was crashing a lot. Blue screen of death is just funny. I mean you can't write this you can't Until we get now it's so so the so by the way the media has not reported this you picked this up off of C-SPAN, right? Yes

1:16:36 Yeah, which is by the way people out there should realize this is what we do. And I want to just say this, it's like, so essentially Microsoft is the party responsible for this Gulf oil blowout and spill. Yes, let's throw Steve Ballmer in the brig. She's SEC investigating trading of BP shares after the Gulf explosion this of course reeks of a 9-11 airline option scandal Which was never resolved that I know of well. No all the documentation was well. You know where it was John That was all conveniently located with the SEC in

1:17:20 World Trade Center 7 so of course that was lost but now the SEC of course no longer has to disclose the documentation because they just put that into the Wall Street reform bill. So we'll never know and they don't have to disclose it. They'll find out, they'll go up to, hey Vinny, hey man you were screwing around with them options you better give me some. Put a cap in your ass. More leaks found on the Gulf Coast, some... some ship ran into a well and knocked its cap off. It's just, it's like, whatever.

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Corexit Dispersants, Mel Gibson, Chantix Side Effects

The use of Corexit oil dispersants by Evergreen Air in the Gulf of Mexico is questioned, with the hosts citing reports that the chemicals may be more harmful than the oil itself. The conversation shifts to Mel Gibson's leaked tapes, with the hosts speculating that his aggressive behavior may be a side effect of the smoking-cessation drug Chantix, which has been linked to reports of violence and aggression.

corexit· evergreen air· mel gibson· chantix· webmd

1:18:00 I think this whole thing is to kill everybody. Just kill everybody, get them out of the Gulf Coast, just kill them all. I'm sure the Gulf Coast would probably do these studies, they know there's not going to be another hurricane that's going to whack them for another few years and it would be a nice place to redevelop. Well yeah, totally. And get the Clintons down there with their hotel buddies and they can take that whole coastline over. And riddle me this. Put some casinos in. Yeah, it's conveniently, it's only a hop, skip and a jump to Haiti. Riddle me this. I'm reading reports everywhere that this Corexit, Corexit, Corexit? Yeah, Corexit. This dispersant that's being sprayed by Evergreen Air, you might want to Google them, Evergreen Air.

1:18:47 strong evidence of ties to the CIA with those guys. They are the crop dusters of record. Lots of stories popping up that the oil actually, that microbes in the water actually eat the oil and you don't even need Corexit. Do you know anything about this, John? Well, there's been, yeah, I mean there are microbes in the ocean that eat oil. I don't think they can eat that much that quickly, so I think that's what they need the dispersant for. They're not hungry. They're not that hungry. Hey, you know, it's a banquet.

1:19:25 Anyway, I think the corrects it is is eventually killing people. That's I just doesn't feel Possibility, it's been banned in the United Kingdom say this that this stuff can't be good. Well, it's been banned in the United Kingdom Yeah, yeah, let's let's just hit some Evidence is mounting Well actually I should read it the other way around Radar online continues to release Mel Gibson tapes, and I just I just I just gotta get how much tapes do they have of this guy? Well, it's you know, and I think they should have a Mel Gibson voice generator now just anyone That's a great iPhone app. I like it. It's that'd be a great iPhone app Said every word in the dictionary by now so I was hoping you would have picked this up on entertainment tonight because I didn't hear it, but I I

1:20:18 I did hear from one of our producers, Patrick from Connecticut, ET played a clip of Mel Gibson ranting on and on then saying, it's not the nicotine! And they announced that Mel was on a patch. So I'm just gotta tell you, I've been talking to more and more people about this, that I truly believe he's on Shantix. WebMD now reports, stop smoking aid Shantix sparks safety concerns. Researchers focus on 26 reports of shantyx and aggression or violence. Drugmaker says no cause-effect evidence exists.

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Joy Behar, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Al Gore Allegations

A segment from The Joy Behar Show featuring Jennifer Love Hewitt is analyzed for its discussion of Al Gore's massage parlor allegations. Behar dismisses the claims as "baloney," while the conversation devolves into a debate about "happy endings" and the social dynamics of oral sex. The hosts interpret the segment as a "beta test" for cultural memes regarding the withholding of sex in relationships.

joy behar· jennifer love hewitt· al gore· massage parlors· oral sex

1:20:59 Yeah, that's fine. They can say whatever they want our listeners will not use the stuff and I think that we're doing them a favor We've saved lives we've saved lives people have stopped using it because of the show visit to The right org slash na will be the thank you all the thank you. We need yes I have a kind of a real a real news story. Do you need the jingle? No you already played it, okay? uh... so i'm listening to our the uh... the beta test site uh... where we were new ideas are worse are exposed at the joy behar show right the the beta test for the the new world order and uh... ministry of truth yes this is a cut this issue is doing an interview with uh... jennifer love hewitt

1:21:45 Good, it was actually quite funny and that here's the way now I want here's that you but I want to play the whole thing because it's hilarious It starts off first of all though with Bayhart throwing in to the pot does this mean you don't want me to interrupt the clip No, you can interrupt it as you go. Sure. Good. I'm just saying we just we got to be judicious She, uh, she first thing she does is she throws out the meme that Al Gore, who's, you know, obviously was being exposed as a pervert. Uh, yeah, get a load of this or whatever it was. He says, take care of this. Take care of this. So, um, she says is bogus.

1:22:24 Oh really? It didn't happen. It's not true. It's bull. They're lying about Al. And then she says, I'm going to give you the assertions and you can pick up how the way she does it. And then she says that for one thing, this massage thing is bull because he never went to a massage parlor. Of course, they came to him. Right. And she says that this doesn't go on anyway. This happy ending thing is some sort of myth. What? Myth? Ever read Craigslist? She is a myth and then so then Jennifer Love Hewitt reveals that she knows a guy who actually did go to a massage parlor. There's a happy ending and Bayhart goes no you're kidding. She's actually making barely here, but you're like now she's flabbergasted and so then it goes into this thing about oral sex. Awesome. So what is what is the mean? What is the beta test?

1:23:14 It becomes very clear that Joy Behar doesn't... obviously I don't know who dates her but probably nobody. If you listen to this you'll know why. And meanwhile, Love Hewitt has got all these... she's got like... the oral sex to her is something that has to be under some circumstance, you know, like a special occasion. These crazy men, that's all they want. The whole clip is just like an eye roller from beginning to end. You know what this is, John? This is gonna be outlawed. That's what this has gotta be. Well, let's listen. Without having heard the clip, blowjobs will be illegal in Gitmo Nation. You watch.

1:23:52 Al Gore was recently, they've been talking about Al Gore being with the masseuse and then having a happy ending. Which a lot of people by the way, people in the know say it's a bunch of baloney that story. People can write anything they want, he never even went for a massage. But the massage therapists are having a... I'm not happy with that particular image. Well yeah, I mean it's a big deal because there are, you know, there are places. I mean I definitely have guy friends who have frequented places where there is, you know, the happy ending aspect. Really? But if they have... Is it really true? Just stay very quiet about it, you know. Yeah. Um... Well, I mean, I go to a place to get a massage every once in a while. No one ever has given me any happy endings. They just say that'll be 140 bucks. I know, right? I know. 140 bucks, you should have gotten a happy ending. I know, they don't do it. What? I mean, jeez Louise. But for girls, why? Why? Because... Do we even have to answer that question?

1:24:54 It gets worse. I think I've actually said you better blow me now. I'm burning the house down. You've said that John come on We all say that don't we like what guys do it's about time. Yeah Wow and also he wakes her up to get one. I know it was just so rude like you're sleeping I mean If anybody ever did that to me while I was through, I'd burn their house down. I'd be like, please, do not wake me. I'm sleepy. I'm not a good, like, kind person when somebody wakes me up. Me either. And for that, like, oh yeah, let me roll over for that. That's like, no. No. No, you have to be very awake and aware of what's happening. And also, isn't that something that is only for special occasions? I was trying to explain to this crew that it's only for Jewish holidays, birthdays. Maybe Christmas. Christmas. Yes.

1:25:56 And not every calendar holiday. No, they try that not Halloween. No example. I wouldn't do it. We do that on how no Maybe in costumes though it might be kind of kicking perhaps perhaps okay. Yes, so I'm actually saddened by this clip now, John. You've actually made me very sad. Because this being the beta test show where these things are rolled out, Joy Behar is essentially propagating a meme that is apparently the only way women can now feel on par with men is to withhold oral sex.

1:26:33 for special occasions or when you do something good like take out the garbage without being asked or something. It's incredibly sexist, incredibly lame and sad. Oh yeah, no I thought the thing was kind of sick. but the uh... they were going on and on about it i mean uh... the uh... jennifer love hewitt was busy who was catching a lot of laughs so she was kind of plan is the crew that's a bit the crew and others who is a crackling out of the house and i was the whole thing what you have but cracking up the cruise always fun but the fact of the matter is bay harsh dead serious

1:27:11 She obviously is not into anything like that, never would be. And you know, Jewish holidays, she says maybe. She's Italian. I thought she was Jewish, but she's Italian, turns out. Well, what's she doing? What's she giving? I don't know. I don't know why. But I remember saying I remember we talked about it and I thought she was Jewish. And then someone corrected me saying she's Italian. Italian-American. Maybe she's Italian-Jewish, whatever the case is. The whole thing was ridiculous and bringing Mel Gibson into it, you know, as another slam against that guy. Now, on the same token, now that you mention it, that may be the test for a meme to, you know, because there is a thing going on in the country ever since Bill Clinton got his blowjob from Monica and then said that's not sex.

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Religious Discrimination Lawsuit, Augusta State University, Georgia Laws

Jennifer Keeton, a graduate student at Augusta State University, is suing the school for allegedly requiring her to change her Christian beliefs regarding homosexuality to remain in a counseling program. The hosts discuss the case as presented on Bill O'Reilly's show, noting the legal complexities of Georgia's sodomy and oral sex laws. They suggest the story is being amplified by right-wing media to create a new cultural flashpoint.

jennifer keeton· augusta state university· religious discrimination· alliance defense fund· bill o'reilly

1:27:59 there's been a uh... i was not sexual relations well he also said that was a sex it became a very clear that that farce he was concerned sex is not that depends on how you define the word is So what happened is we have an epidemic of teenage oral sex that occurred. Yes, excellent. That began after this, the Clinton faux pas. Leading an army of girls. Because the president does set the moral tone for the country and that's just the way it's always been. And so if he says it's not sex and it's okay, then all the kids are starting to have oral sex. And so now we've got to somehow stop this so let's find some way to get some other means in there if we can do it and make it so oral sex did you get a seal yeah come out with something against oral sex and you get also see the right wing do some some crazy stuff and i hate do have one story uh... and i think you're right on when you say this is a movement this phony homosexual story which is a nothing to see here story that's showing up on fox about some very attractive coed

1:29:02 who uh... is going to some school in georgia and she refuses to change her attitude about homosexual marriage, she doesn't believe in it, and you know, just basically a clone of that Carrie Prejean woman from California who, you know, decided to kind of make a name for herself by saying that she doesn't, she thinks that marriage should be between a man and a woman, I don't believe in homosexual marriage, and that was that, and now she's, you know, excoriated by the left. This same thing is going on now in Georgia. Now the joke of this It isn't readily apparent except to me, but play the... You're so intelligent. Play the phony homosexual story for as long as you can take it. It's a long clip, you don't have to play the whole thing, you just get the feeling for it. In the back of the book segment tonight, a troubling situation on the campus of Augusta State University in Georgia. 24-year-old Jennifer... This is Behar again?

1:29:56 No, this is... Sounds like Bayhart. What's her name? The Laura Ingraham substance abuse... Oh, that's right. O'Reilly. Right, okay. Keaton is a graduate student studying to be a school counselor. Now she's suing the university, claiming they're trying to kick her out of the master's program unless she changes her position on homosexuality. According to the lawsuit, Augusta State thinks Jennifer's Christian beliefs are unethical and that they're incompatible with the codes of ethics and counseling in the entire profession. Joining us now from Nashville is Jennifer's attorney, David French of the Alliance Defense Fund. Okay, David, try to really clarify this for me because what I

1:30:37 I understand from what I've read is that her statements that she thinks she said, I guess, to friends and other things she said about gay issues is in direct conflict with what is written in the code of ethics at the school. And she has to adhere to that code of ethics, right? So to play devil's advocate here, isn't she bound by that? And she knew that when she went into this program. It's absolutely not a direct conflict with the code of ethics. In fact, the code of ethics prohibits religious discrimination. And if I've ever seen religious discrimination telling a Christian student she has to change her beliefs or she'll be expelled from a program, that is religious discrimination. The code of ethics prohibits imposing values and they're telling her she has to change her beliefs

1:31:25 or she's gone. That's imposing values. If there's any ethical problem here, it's on the part of the university. Not to mention the constitutional problem of putting someone through a thought reform program merely because they express their religious beliefs. That exists? A thought reform program? No, this whole thing, you don't have to play anymore of this long clip, it goes on for days. Let me just bring up an interesting point. Georgia is the only state that I know of that actually is homosexuality is illegal. Georgia it's illegal to have anal sex homosexual or otherwise Georgia oral sex write down a memo. Yeah, Georgia. It's illegal to have oral sex in Georgia I told you this it's gonna be outlawed as long as law in the book since There's all kinds of stuff illegal like but the point is is that this whole thing That's the elephant in the room when it comes to this school and the whole thing there's something

1:32:22 phony about this story and it reeks to high heaven. That's all I know. But the right is trying to play it up as old as poor beleaguered Christian woman who is by the way gorgeous. You know that helps is you know trying to she's gonna be on talk shows. You're gonna start seeing She's being played. This is the anti blowjob just gets a blowjob bill Yeah, I blow job if you watch the anti blowjob bill. It's coming. It's a coming It's a coming get your blowjobs now get him in now. You know why you can't Nice hey an unfortunate what what I'm deeming to to the head here in Los Angeles is a very famous doctor Known as the walking man, and this is a Mark Abrams

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Mark Abrams Death, Aspartame Addiction, Neurotransmitters

Mark Abrams, a well-known Los Angeles doctor known as "The Walking Man," was found dead in his jacuzzi while under investigation for a patient's overdose. The hosts then discuss the addictive properties of aspartame, specifically how the amino acid phenylalanine acts as a precursor to neurotransmitters like dopamine. They warn listeners about the prevalence of these chemicals in diet foods.

mark abrams· silver lake· aspartame· phenylalanine· dopamine

1:33:12 known as the walking man because he walks shirtless around Silver Lake reading his newspaper. I mean they actually have like graffiti of this guy, you know like wall art and everyone knows him and he was found dead. Now and I'll tell you how he died in a moment but at the time of his death Abrams was under investigation for prescribing drugs to a 25 year old patient who died of an overdose. So obviously, and I haven't looked into the story, you can't find stuff on Google when he's like, so someone dies and then you want to find the backstory about being under investigation and you can't. There's like a hundred million hits of the guy died. Yeah. And how did he die? He was found in his jacuzzi with the jacuzzi lid pulled over the jacuzzi. No suicide note found but he killed himself.

1:34:05 Yeah, it's very easy to do. You just get into the jacuzzi because that's the place to do it and then you pull the lid on yourself. What's this idiotic? I don't get it. Okay, okay. Sure. I'm sure that's what it was. Thanks to producer Yvonne. Yvonne. On the latest NOAH Agenda show you mentioned aspartame, its supposed addictive qualities. I got to stay on this because this stuff is now in everything and it's really, really bad. I'd like to draw your attention to the mechanism by which this would occur. Aspartame contains

1:34:41 Phenyl... help me John. I can't, no that one is a tough one. I'm not going to try. Phenylalane? I'd have to look it over and say it a few times. It's an amino acid that occurs naturally in the human body and gets a vital precursor for tyrosine indirectly for the catecholamine neurotransmitters dopamine and norafufufurine these are two of the... It's like a comedy show. These are two of the key neurotransmitters which are affected in the effects of addictive drugs such as cocaine, amphetamine and methamphetamine. Dependence and addiction are intrinsically tied to these chemicals in the case of those drugs I have long suspected that aspartame

1:35:23 Possesses addictive qualities because of this nature glad to see some attention being given to it And I'm gonna try and parse this out some more. I guess he's he's a doctor We have a lot of these people who listen to the show yeah, so but but this is definitely not good stuff And you need to be on the lookout for this this crap in your food Yeah, meanwhile it also did it inhibits this normal. I'm false Apparently there's that you know what you have this satiation that takes place your brain says oh, you're full don't eat anymore this apparently You don't want to eat. So yeah, it's a diet food that makes you hungry Yeah, it's good meanwhile here in Gitmo Nation West

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Raw Food Raids, Rawsome Foods, Raw Milk Battle

Law enforcement agents conducted a raid on Rawsome Foods in Venice, California, seizing unmarked jugs of raw milk. The hosts describe the scene of armed officers entering the organic grocery store to enforce dairy regulations. They argue that the battle against raw milk is driven by large-scale agricultural interests seeking to eliminate small-scale competition.

rawsome foods· venice· raw milk· organic grocery· agriculture regulation

1:36:09 The People's Republic of Southern California actual raids with guns drawn on raw food outfits. And there's a... Yeah, you gotta gun down them guys who grow raw food. With no warning, one weekday morning investigators entered an organic grocery with a search warrant and ordered the hemp-clad workers, let's just put that in, to put down their buckets of mashed coconut cream and step away from the nuts! Then, guns drawn, four officers fanned out across... This is well written, this is the LA Times. Four officers fanned out across Rawsome Foods in Venice, skirting past the arugula, peering under the crates of zucchini, they found the raid's target inside a walk-in refrigerator, unmarked jugs of raw milk. Yeah, the battle against raw milk never ends. It's getting pretty outrageous.

1:37:09 Well, it's those big farms. The raw milk thing is, you know... By the way, it's all we drink in Washington. We have a... Well, you're gonna get arrested, my friend. Well, no, he's got the license. Everything seems fine. The place is spotless, but they're always trying to blame him for stuff. I mean, it's ridiculous. I forgot one clip I wanted to play about binge drinking. This being the meme. Because again, binge drinking is, by the way, related to oral sex. Plenty of links if New York Times actually says this that to adolescents are getting into oral sex because of binge drinking But there's a fix for it John. Oh, yes, and I'd like to play this from KTVI From st. Louis where we have a fun

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Binge Drinking Study, Vivitrol Vaccine, Addiction Treatment

A new study defines binge drinking as consuming five or more drinks in a single day, a metric the hosts find overly broad. They play a news clip from St. Louis featuring Percy Menzies of the Assisted Recovery Center, who promotes an injectable drug called Vivitrol (Naltrexone) as a treatment for alcoholism and opioid addiction. The hosts express concern over the "miracle drug" marketing of the vaccine for various impulse control disorders.

binge drinking· vivitrol· naltrexone· st. louis· addiction

1:37:52 A fine report on binge drinking and how horrible it is and the report I mean it starts within one second you're already like oh my god How is this possible? How can this actually be on on television particularly this guy this jabroni they brought in? and here and I'm stalling. Oh, let's do a 15 second pre-roll. SunshineDrapery.com. What's the name of the reporter? He may be a freelancer that's actually working for somebody else. Doesn't say. Let's see, maybe it's at the beginning of the report. Binge drinking is on the rise. That's according to a new study looking at America's drinking habits. And this trend seems to be consistent for all adults.

1:38:36 Binge drinking is consuming five or more drinks in one day. We've got Percy Menzies. He's the president of the Assisted Recovery Center. How does that work? Five or more is binge drinking? If you take a bottle of scotch and then chug it, I think that's kind of binge drinking. Five or more in a whole day is binge drinking? No, no, no, no. It's a unique clinic in Chesterfield and also the city of St. Louis that treats alcoholism and drug abuse through a proven non-addictive drug therapy called Vivitrol. Oh, did you hear that? A proven non-addictive drug therapy called Vivitrol.

1:39:14 Can you look that up, Vivitrol? I thought it was Vivitrol, but yeah, I'm looking it up now. I'll listen again to what he says. ...in Chesterfield and also the city of St. Louis that treats alcoholism and drug abuse through a proven non-addictive drug therapy called Vivitrol. Yeah, Vivitrol. Percy, thanks for coming in again. Thank you for inviting me. Are you surprised by this or do you say, you know, usually when the economy is bad, people do look for a crutch? It's very common because people have so much time at hand. and boredom and loneliness gets him to start using drugs or alcohol. Alcohol is the easiest because all you do is grab a six pack or a bottle and start out with that.

1:39:51 Who is this clown? It is easy because all they do is grab a six pack or a bottle and they start. Typically I start to masturbate when I'm bored and lonely but no some people are actually drinking. A disturbing trend now if you look at the studies less and less people are going to restaurants or they're going to bars because they cannot afford it but they are going buying cheap cheap liquor and drinking at home. You were even hearing some of these wineries shutting down. Absolutely. Cheap liquor. cheap liquor cheap liquor and drinking it at home you stupid slaves you got to go to expensive restaurant and buy something expensive we're gonna jack up the prices on your cheap liquor there was a story yesterday saying that wines over $10 a bottle are in real trouble because people are buying very cheap liquor

1:40:38 That's how they try to... Does that corroborate with your studies, John? No, it's bogus. I mean, that's what I mean. It's like, studies, studies, lots of studies. Oh, the science is in. Oh, lots and lots and lots of studies. Science! Science! Science! I tracked this. There's a newsletter that comes out that I don't track it, they track it. And I... It's not just bogus. It's just lies. It's lies. It's lies. To save money. But what they're doing is destroying, then hurting themselves as they do it. So what do you, at Assisted Recovery Centers of America, what do you do? You talk about Vivitrol and also the therapy that goes with it. Yeah, we talk about treatment of alcoholism, particularly telling them that if you have this problem, do not just say, I can do it on my own, I can get well. We try to get them into treatment as quickly as possible, get them back to work.

1:41:23 literally within a day or two, but they have to come for therapy, they take the medication. Oh, it's a vaccine. John, I swear to God, they're showing a vaccination, they're showing a needle being stuck in someone's arm with a Vivitrol. Yeah, yeah, I'm reading about it now. Because when they're also drinking, there may be issues with anxiety, depression, other issues, and you need to treat both symptoms simultaneously. Well, as the economy was failing, you opened up a second location in Chesterfield, and you talk about timing. That's when you started seeing an increase. Yes, we have been seeing it for the last two years So the increase is not only alcohol but a huge increase in people addicted to pain medications like Vicodin Oxycontin and now heroin Heroin is a major problem in the st. Louis metro area. It's unbelievable unbelievable. I'm not How could

1:42:09 that be with the opium production up? Never heard of such a thing. It's not just the people in the inner cities all over. It starts off with oxycodone or hydrocodone and then very quickly goes to heroin. As far as any type of... Yeah, overnight. Hey doc, can I get a prescription for some heroin? I need some heroin. Let me go hit the streets. It's only ten bucks. It's nice and cheap. Just like your liquor. So many ways you can volunteer at either a city or a non-profit group, go to church, go exercise in this beautiful weather, now in the evenings run, skate. Guys, shut up. I can't listen to him. Did you look up Vivitrol? Yeah, it's a relatively new product. It is an injectable. It was started off as a, actually he kind of mentions this, as an antidote to, it will keep you from having withdrawal symptoms if you're on opiates.

1:43:33 But I guess somewhere along the line they found it was actually a very harmful product, but it seems to work well with the treatment of alcohol dependence. In other words, I don't know what alcohol dependence is, but I guess it means people have to drink. What does a hit cost and how often do you have to take it? I've been trying to find out how often you need it. There's a lot of information here, so we're gonna have to follow up on this. No, please do. There are indications that Nelrexone, Neltrexone, which is the, or Neltrexone, I don't know, Neltrexin, might be beneficial in the treatment of impulse control disorders such as kleptomania or pathological gambling.

1:44:21 And you can take a shot for that. This is, oh, excellent. Clinical trials are on, this is going to be the next miracle drug. You can just see this coming down Broadway. Oh yeah. And they're just testing the public. In St. Louis. Clinical trials, perfect, middle America. Clinical trials are ongoing regarding the use of naltrexone. in combination with another drug, bupropion, as a weight loss therapy, so that means everybody will be taking it. Autism, Dr. Jack Pansap of Washington State University has conducted studies using naltrexone to treat patients with autism. He found that half of the autistic children treated with the drug became more social. So this thing is like, this thing is a- It's a miracle drug. A witch's brew of some sort. I'm sure it wasn't made by Apple. It's magical.

1:45:08 It's magical. It's magical. So we'll look into this a little further because I'm sure that there's more to this than just the simple story. I have a lot of links that I want everyone to check out under the heading science. Science! USA Today report. This is a great headline, John. 2000s were warmest decade on record. Global warming undeniable. Undeniable! The science is in! You can tell John and I aren't big fans of the science of global warming, but there's some good links in there. Particularly check out the seven eminent physicists skeptical of man-made global warming. Oh those guys are... they're maniacs! Yeah, one of them is Esther Dyson's dad. Yeah, I know. He's a maniac. Probably one of the few geniuses walking the planet. Yeah, he's crazy. He and the science is in.

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Global Warming Skepticism, New Jersey Grading Policy, Tasing Incidents

The hosts briefly touch on global warming skepticism, mentioning eminent physicists who doubt man-made climate change. They then discuss a New Jersey school district's decision to eliminate the "D" grade, requiring students to either pass with a "C" or fail. This leads to a discussion on the increasing use of Tasers by police in schools to manage unruly students, which the hosts condemn as a failure of child-rearing.

global warming· esther dyson· morris county· taser· school discipline

1:44:21 And you can take a shot for that. This is, oh, excellent. Clinical trials are on, this is going to be the next miracle drug. You can just see this coming down Broadway. Oh yeah. And they're just testing the public. In St. Louis. Clinical trials, perfect, middle America. Clinical trials are ongoing regarding the use of naltrexone. in combination with another drug, bupropion, as a weight loss therapy, so that means everybody will be taking it. Autism, Dr. Jack Pansap of Washington State University has conducted studies using naltrexone to treat patients with autism. He found that half of the autistic children treated with the drug became more social. So this thing is like, this thing is a- It's a miracle drug. A witch's brew of some sort. I'm sure it wasn't made by Apple. It's magical.

1:45:08 It's magical. It's magical. So we'll look into this a little further because I'm sure that there's more to this than just the simple story. I have a lot of links that I want everyone to check out under the heading science. Science! USA Today report. This is a great headline, John. 2000s were warmest decade on record. Global warming undeniable. Undeniable! The science is in! You can tell John and I aren't big fans of the science of global warming, but there's some good links in there. Particularly check out the seven eminent physicists skeptical of man-made global warming. Oh those guys are... they're maniacs! Yeah, one of them is Esther Dyson's dad. Yeah, I know. He's a maniac. Probably one of the few geniuses walking the planet. Yeah, he's crazy. He and the science is in.

1:46:09 I have one more fun clip, but maybe you want to do something before we skedaddle? Yeah, I want to mention the one thing that's big news is breaking right now. Students in the New Jersey School District will no longer be able to squeak by in class after the Morris County School Board approved dropping the D grade. What? You can't fail anymore? Well, no, they think you can. Oh, it's only C to F, is that it? Yeah. You get a C or an F. I'm tired of kids coming to school not learning and getting credit for it said superintendent Larry Reynolds in the Daily Record. What's wrong with the D grade? I mean there is a possibility, I mean well they got to change it. No, not gonna work. In other words, they're gonna give anybody an F. Let's stay in New Jersey then for a moment. There was a kid in, trying to find out where it was, Flagler High School? Flagler? That's been in the news before.

1:47:10 Really? Yeah, go on. And so he was unruly in class, refused to do his work, and the principal then called in the sheriff, a deputy sheriff came to the school, and the kid was like, what? 16 year old kid. And said, listen kid, I'm gonna take you out of this classroom. It used to be like the principal would pick you up by your ear, And the kid was like struggled and so we tased him. Yeah, we already talked about them tasing kids at school. This is why I bring it up because on Sunday we said watch it's happening all over it's already happening. Yeah just come into school and bring the cops. Yeah. Hey the kids say hey okay well who's the first president United States? Billy! Give us the answer. I don't know. Okay come call in the cops. I'm gonna tase you.

1:48:07 I do want to give you the other side of that for a moment. One of our producers dialed in who says he loves the show, but hey Adam, I work as a rent-a-cop. I have no illusions of being a real cop. I fill logs all day, smoke weed, but only two days ago someone got f'd up in a work-related accident and I was the first one there. He says I work at a clinic. Which used to be a hospital is now mainly an outpatient clinic. It's pretty big though several floors and and stuff He's on weed right now when he wrote this I think so we have a psych floor and We don't get gunshots and stabbings we get outpatient people if you know what I mean

1:48:49 So he says, a drunk guy came in, wants to sit in the lobby, drink his beer, went asked to leave, makes a scene, then makes a move with my buddy. Too bad for him. Me and my friend spend some of our time sparring. Soon he's in handcuffs waiting for the cops. In that incident, we had to use some pepper spray on the guy. But he says, sometimes someone just needs to get tased. well that's probably true that that's basically his first thing we just got a note from somebody on the twitter account saying that the fight club came out in nineteen ninety nine which was after the columbine killings not nine eleven so that's a correction okay over the columbine killings right anyway so uh... but i'm uh... i i'm i'm still against it i mean i just think it's a it's a week it shows weakness and at the same time is frightening it's uh... it's a very scary approach to

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Honesty Test PR Stunt, San Francisco Integrity, RFID Tags

A hidden-camera "honesty test" involving an honor-system tea stand in San Francisco is revealed to be a coordinated PR package. The results claimed varying levels of honesty across US cities, with Los Angeles ranked as the most dishonest. The hosts transition to Walmart's plan to embed high-tech RFID tags in clothing, which they describe as a tracking mechanism that persists after the purchase.

honesty test· san francisco· rfid· walmart· pr company

1:49:40 to child rearing if you don't mind me saying. It's just not okay. I'm just really, really quite against this. So I've got a clip that I want to play which is, you should pay careful attention to this. It's a little long but it's an interesting... Why me? You'll see at the very end there's a punchline. Don't ignore it. Don't ignore the punchline. It's a clip about the honesty test that has been going on here and there around the country. Oh, I don't know of this. And you might want to play honesty test. Those feelings. Aren't there little white lies that you tell your children? Sometimes it's kind of unavoidable. What about being dishonest when no one's looking? This fake pop-up shop was set up in Justin Herman Plaza for a few days to test our honesty. Cool, refreshing tea on a sunny San Francisco day is made available on the honor system. I actually saw this clip but I didn't hear the payoff so it'll be good. Pay your buck

1:50:41 You can knock it back. Welcome to the Honest Store where you can try as many flavors of tea as you like. So they have this thing up on the sidewalk, right? With like iced teas and Cokes and stuff and then there's a little box next to it and then... Yeah, big clear box and you've got to put a dollar in it. You're supposed to put a dollar in there for your drink, right? Which by the way is about two bucks shy of the actual price of your aspartame. Just you and the tea. And no one paying attention. No one watching. So you think. The experiment is actually being monitored by hidden cameras. Our camera caught people who looked like they were being honest. But if you slow down the video... But for the most part, people we saw had integrity. Yeah, it was kind of refreshing to see. So I'll have to pay my dollar to see if the tea is just as refreshing.

1:51:31 91% of people in San Francisco paid their buck. And that's the honest truth. Garvin Thomas, NBC Bay Area. She went through all the trouble of pretending to put it in. She just walked off. The honesty test is traveling to different cities throughout the country. So far Boston is the most honest with 93.3% of people paying up, followed by Washington DC with 93%. 89% of people in New York and Atlanta were honest, in Chicago 78%, Los Angeles it turns out was the most dishonest at 75%. Still ahead. There you are. It's the People's Republic, that's why.

1:52:10 And this is the cultural Mecca the cultural center that people that send out the messages we're not stupid San Gilino is the most honest here. We're not stupid here. Hey free drinks. Screw it High as 75% I was thinking like 40. Yeah, I The honesty test. Who is that sponsored by? There was no reveal on the sponsor. What's funny is I saw that here. You saw that in San Francisco. So this is a news package. It's clearly a PR company doing work. They sent this package out. Yeah, it's a package. Yeah, interesting. Walmart starts the mark of the beast as now all of their products including their clothing will have new high-tech RFID tags.

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Barbie Video Girl, Compulsory Service Bill, Rainwater Collection

Mattel has released a "Barbie Video Girl" doll featuring a hidden camera in its necklace and an LCD screen on its back, raising privacy concerns. In legislative news, Congressman Charles Rangel has reintroduced a compulsory national service bill (HR 5741) that would require citizens aged 18 to 42 to perform military or civilian service. Additionally, the hosts discuss the growing illegality of private rainwater collection in states like Utah and Colorado.

barbie· mattel· charles rangel· national service· rainwater

1:53:00 Yeah, and everybody's up in arms about this. Yeah, and it's I guess they they don't take them off right it's it's embedded in the permanent Yeah, so you actually walk around the store. They can tell you where you are and not just the store my friend This is great. Well. I guess I have to stop buying my clothes at Walmart. Yeah, well that that's what you're overdue on that It's pretty nuts though I mean, I clearly see the... All you do is you buy, say you buy, I don't know what they're gonna put these things in, probably pants, because that's the easiest place to hide them. No, you could put it in anything. It's woven into the fabric. Well, you take the pants, you take whatever it is, and you shove it in the microwave oven if you have one. I don't, by the way. Yeah, and zap it. And zap it. And you zap it, and that's the end of it. Right. No, don't worry, Costco will be doing it. There's supposed to be a burn spot on the part of the pants where the thing was. Costco will be doing this next.

1:53:47 Now, Costco won't do stuff like this. Okay. But of course it's nothing compared to the new Barbie video girl doll. This is amazing. It looks like any other Barbie doll, but it harbors a secret. It's got a camera built in? A hidden camera in a pendant around her neck, which can record up to 30 minutes of video. Wow, this would be a good spy mechanism. Mattel is gushing over the spy doll, quote, budding filmmakers take note. Barbie doll now doubles as a video camera girls can record and playback clips with this multitasking doll Which has a video camera built right in? Capture everything from a doll's eye view then watch it instantly or upload to your computer There's an LCD screen on Barbie dolls back and the camera lens that's hidden discreetly in her necklace Talk about making movies in style Wow Wow Yeah, I mean I can just and what else do they build in there?

1:54:49 You know fucking Pete Aubert, sorry. I don't like it. I don't think parents should be buying that. That does not sound like a good idea. No, they're just turning their kids into like, well half the country like we pointed out before are spooks already. So you know, start them young. So the, what's his face? He does this every year I guess, wrangle. Once again introduced the compulsory service bill HR 5741 which is the draft.

1:55:25 So I've logged it. I guess he does this all the time is that yeah, but you know one of these days It's gonna happen right? Yes. Let me say this is not a bad idea Yeah, it's also got included that crazy thing Obama wants to do which is to make everybody in the military It's National Service men and women in fact as I was reading through the bill it actually amends the Selective Service bill to add female citizens and So that's very much like the Israeli system. And if you are between the ages of 18 and 42, you will be required to perform national service either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security.

1:56:11 to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end strength requirements of the uniformed services and other purposes. So I think that this may be a variant that is, I think there's something new and we'd have to go back and look at other times he submitted this. This one in July 15th. But you know, one of these days you're gonna wake up and we're gonna be playing clips on C-SPAN and you'll be suiting up. It's gonna happen. Yep. Thank God I'm 40 almost 46. I don't have to deal with that bull crap anymore. But now they can change that. It's a drop of a hat. Yeah, it's like and now we just extended it to 46 to include Mr. Curry. Welcome. Rainwater collection illegal now in many states. I remember probably about a year ago we saw the legislation pass that the United States actually owns all your water. All the water in the oceans everywhere. The United Nations, I'm sorry.

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Water Management Rationale, Los Angeles Utility Bills

The rationale for banning rainwater collection is explained as a need for utility companies to maintain predictable water runoff calculations. One host shares a personal frustration with a $600 bi-monthly water and sewage bill in Los Angeles, arguing that the system is designed to prevent citizens from lowering their costs through self-sufficiency.

water management· bermuda· cisterns· utility bills· sewage fees

1:57:15 And so I guess that is passed down to the states where rainwater is you can't collect it. It's illegal in let's see Utah. Yeah, a guy from there was a lot of activity in Colorado over this Colorado as well. Yeah to law to new laws recently passed that exempt small-scale rainwater collection systems. Yeah, like a barrel. That's what that means. Small skit like a pan. You can't have a pan out. Yeah, well they had to do something because you know if you're if you're a rainstorm comes by and then you go and you look outside your plants have been watered and you have a like maybe an old like a bucket outside and the buckets half full of water because it rained. Yeah, you can get a ticket. That would be illegal so they had to make a little you know had to kind of change the law a little bit so that wouldn't be illegal because people say hey you know I got a bucket full of water what am I going to do with it?

1:58:06 So why is this? I mean, what is the rationale that is being held up to uphold this? Well, the rationale is the rationale that I've read, that it's the only one that I think you can come up with. I mean, the real rationale, so you have water companies that, you know, you don't have people like cheating them out of the 25 cents of, you know... Excuse me? Water is expensive. Water is really expensive and you pay for it. Okay, well that's the real reason for this story. But here's what they say. They say, look, we're a big water management company and we have calculated how the runoff works and how this works and how that works. If everybody starts collecting water like they do in Bermuda, for example, all the roofs in Bermuda are made out of this material that essentially collects all the water and puts it in a cistern in your cellar because there's no water company in Bermuda, but it rains a lot.

1:59:02 and you could do this in Texas where it rains a lot for a very short period of time and then it's just dry the rest of the year but they won't let anyone do this because we've done the calc... you know we have to manage the water and that means we have to have our calculations have to you know this much water drops from the skies this much goes into the river this much goes over here this much goes over there you Adam Curry by setting up a Bermuda style catcher of water are screwing up the calculation And if everybody did that, the calculation would be useless. We wouldn't be managing the water anymore. We'd be out of control and we'd be all screwed because some fish would die somewhere because you captured the water that would have saved them. I mean, it's bogus. My monthly water bill here in Los Angeles, and it's two of us, is $200. Like $197.

1:59:56 Yeah, and what am I doing? That's a no that kept that. No, I'll show you I'll show you the bill and by the way, that's That's after all the taxes There's probably 20% of taxes in there 6% here 5% there 10% sales tax blah blah blah blah blah Oh yeah, it's $197 I paid last month for water. Well, they want you to keep paying that money rather than capturing water and maybe lowering your bill by $25. But I think that also includes the sewage. So you pay for water twice. You pay for it in and out. Yeah, you pay for it going down the drain as well. So when you flush, you're paying. It's double dipping.

2:00:36 The whole thing's a scam. And the water deal down in Southern California, of course, which was highlighted by the movie Chinatown, which was done by Roman Polanski, and the next thing you know, Roman Polanski's rushed out of the country for some sort of a screwball deal because they did a plea bargain that they refused to accept after the after, I don't know, there's a Roman Polanski documentary which says everything but it's possible that Polanski by revealing the scam of the Southern California water system in that movie was set up. Hold on a second, let me go get this bill, this is pissing me off now. You got one second? Sure. Whistle. And that is my duck call, Acme Duck Calls, a company out of England

2:01:35 You can make it sound actually like a duck. Alright, let me see what I got here. It's a mallard. Right. Now down here the water bill comes once every two months. Yeah, this comes every three months. Okay, so it's not $200 a month. No, but they break it down. $202.27. Yeah, for three months of water. No, no, no, no, no, no. Per month. The bills are $600?

2:02:12 Yeah. No more. Yes. Yes! Alright, no it's not. Why would I lie to you? It's ridiculous. You're getting ripped off. You don't even have a pool, do ya? Yeah I do. But no water goes in. No water just stays in there. I want to start drinking that. God, can you imagine if you filled that pool up from scratch? I'm just gonna start drinking that. I'm not swimming in it anymore. That's now on my resource. Damn. Yeah, it's nuts. It's nuts. Okay, um... There's one clip that I'd normally... What do you do? What kind of water do you use? You just drink a cup of coffee? It's made of gold! Well, you know... And you flush the toilet. And you take a shower. And I take a shower.

CHAPTER 33 / 34 Discussion

CNN Internet Criticism, Andrew Keen, Anonymous Blogging

CNN's Kyra Phillips and John Roberts interview author Andrew Keen about the "dark side" of the internet and the Shirley Sherrod controversy. Keen argues that user-generated media is "killing the American economy" and calls for the return of media "gatekeepers." The hosts mock the segment's attack on anonymous bloggers, viewing it as a coordinated effort to push for internet licensing and the end of online anonymity.

cnn· andrew keen· shirley sherrod· anonymous blogging· first amendment

2:03:00 Alright, I got one more clip that I would normally play at the end of the show, but I want to this is the end of the show But I want to play it before we say goodbye because I think it's worthy of discussion. It's long enough to be an end of show clip it's Kyra Phillips and John Roberts on CNN and they're talking about the evil internet and this is all in relation by the way to What's her name? I'm doing it again Cheryl The woman who got fired. Sherrod. Sherrod, right. and how bloggers are bad and internet is bad and it's all bad. This meme is bad, they've been trying this meme for a while. But it gets better because they're actually sitting there saying like you know we need to be a part, we are the ones that save the information chain. We are the ministry of truth. And I just want to listen to this with you. We spoke to that author on CNN's American Morning. John joins us live from New York. A subject matter, John, that we can all relate to.

2:04:02 Yeah, and one that you and I discuss all the time, and that is that there are so many great things that the internet does and has to offer, but at the same time, Keira, as you know, there is this dark side. And by the way, with great things, this guy means porn. and completely ruin you, C. Mel Gibson. What would have happened if we hadn't taken a look at what happened with Shirley Sherrod? If we hadn't taken a look, if we here at CNN, if we hadn't taken a look at it, it would have ruined this woman forever!

2:05:04 We roll and plumb the depths further and found out that what had been posted on the internet was not in fact Reflective of what she said would she still be without a job with her reputation still be ruined that that to some degree is the effect of what many people might consider to be a Wild West of the internet where anybody can post anything they want about anyone Andrew Keen is the author of the cult of the Our favorite man is here, Andrew Keen. Did you notice by the way, the same meme, anyone can do anything they want, that Joy Behar used. Yep, oh yeah. Well she's headline news CNN, it's the same company. Oh yeah, they talk in the lunchroom about this crap. Amateur, how blogs, MySpace, YouTube and other user generated media are killing the American economy, the culture and our values.

2:05:52 You're killing the economy? Yes, it's killing the- It's our fault, John. We're killing the economy. Oh, brother. I hate you for killing the economy. Hey, play the douchebag thing, will ya? DOUCHEBAG! Here comes Andrew Keene and that is his lead in by the way. Here's what he says about this idea that people can post whatever they want about anyone and many times probably more times than not get away with it. Get away with it. What I think it reflects is a certain... By the way this is an English jabroni. What's he talking about our economy for? Go to the Gitmo Nation East.

2:06:32 and sort of paranoia about media and obsession with conspiracy, a kind of a lunacy that reflects us. There you go, he's talking about you and me, John. Yeah, lunatics. Extremism, a bitterness, but also a degree of responsibility. I think this case is interesting because it shows the worst of the internet in the sense that someone printed a lie or published a lie which then was virally spread and almost ruined her life. but then ruined her life part of the internet from getting fired to ruining her life also mainstream media guys like you came to the rescue to the rescue cnr rescuing reputations worldwide and you sorted the case out you showed that it was a lie you revealed the fact the reality the truth which was actually the very opposite of what was published

2:07:32 But John, we can't always do that. I mean, it's gonna... We just don't have enough time in the day to save everyone's reputation. We just, you know, we have other, we have important things to do like... This is like scripted. Like our hair and makeup. There's going to have to be a point in time where these people have to be held accountable. John, we're gonna be held accountable. You shall be held accountable. But all these bloggers that blog anonymously, they say rotten things about people and they're actually given credibility. Which is crazy. They're a bunch of cowards. They're just people seeking attention. I feel so spoken to. This woman is horrible. She's kind of hot though. So what does this guy propose that we can do about it?

CHAPTER 34 / 34 Discussion

Defamation Suits, Andrew Breitbart, Show Outro

The discussion concludes with the potential for Shirley Sherrod to file a defamation suit against Andrew Breitbart for posting an out-of-context video clip. The hosts argue that while the media portrays this as a legal crisis, it is primarily a battle for "clicks" and "clips." The show ends with a final appeal for listener support and a reminder of the upcoming Saturday morning broadcast schedule.

defamation· andrew breitbart· shirley sherrod· ministry of truth· gitmo nation

2:08:20 Well, what Andrew talked about with me was this idea of a gatekeeper, but there are huge First Amendment rights that the gatekeeper there it is gatekeeper There's horrible First Amendment rights. We've got to get rid of that shit first come into play here freedom of speech and all of that and and he said that the people who need to be the gatekeepers are the media to check into these stories, but CNN will become the gatekeeper. This is the NO Agenda show, edited by CNN. For every Shirley Sherrod story that there is, there's probably a hundred thousand other ones that never rise to the level of attention that we wouldn't...

2:08:59 I love it. I knew you I knew this would get you riled up look into them So I don't know what you do about all of those people and we see them people who were bullied on the internet who commit suicide others whose reputations have been ruined and it was also pointing to Companies that try to ruin other companies by posting false information on their websites. It's internet thing You know, I got to go. It's gotta go. We've got to stop this into this idea. I of anonymous blogging we we chatted about that a little bit off camera and to some degree that the internet is like a giant worldwide bathroom wall alright this is no I'm pooping right now I'm writing no I can't stop it this is too good that you can write anything you want about anyone under an anonymous pseudonym now somebody's going to have that information unlike the fake names that news anchors use but you know

2:09:53 I've always thought that if you're going to say something, if you're going to criticize someone in a public forum, have the courage to at the very least put your name on it. I mean, the better thing would be if you've got a criticism for someone, say it to their face. Right, right. John, Adam Clark Curry is my name. And you are? John Charles Dvorak. At the very least, have the whatever you want to call them to put your name to it. Whatever you want to call them. Sure, I think that's what we all want because it's very... But do you hear the subtlety? They're talking about an identification system. They're talking about not being anonymous. This is exactly what the whole licensing thing is about. They're talking about using your real name so you can't post things anonymous. He means balls but he says whatever you call them.

2:10:46 To actually put your name behind your statements. This is about the license and this is coming directly from the Ministry of Truth This is a very important clip fair and you know, we talked about writing on a bathroom wall But come on, you can go you can spray paint over that that that's one wall for not for the world You know the whole world's not gonna see that. I mean we're talking about it's not it's not just for freedom of first amendment and i know it that's what they all claim it's it's freedom of defamation many times and that was a new staff formation that you haven't you read the constitution is right in there you have the freedom of defamation yeah i guess i guess in a nationwide freedom of defecation but as she got confused All right, continue to play, please. I guess that's it.

2:11:43 The woman is a dingbat. I love it. My name is John Dvorak, she's a dingbat. My name is Adam Curry, she's a douchebag. It has to be done legally. There's got to be some point where there's some accountability. And companies, especially within the media, have to stop giving these anonymous bloggers credit. Or credibility, I guess that's a better word. as you know the ubiquitous nature of the internet in the way that it gathers together facts and you know this is a purchase segment because it runs so long without a commercial that someone bought for this to be said there's no doubt about it and divides others you're going to have allies of certain people who comment or blog anonymously now just not to say that anonymous blogging doesn't have its place but if you're in a place like Iran or North Korea or something like that anonymous blogging is the only way you can ever get your point of view out without being searched down

2:12:38 thrown in jail. checks and balances, not national but maybe website to website on who comments on things. But we didn't really have time to get into what you do about those people, but it's just a matter of, you know, you really have to be aware. You have to be aware of what you post on the internet, which is why I always caution young people, never post a naked photograph of yourself.

2:13:14 This is what I always caution young people. How do you get from point A to that? When they're over at the house and I have the young people around me, I say, now don't post a naked picture of yourself on the internet, young people. You know I say this all the time. This guy is pedo-bear. On the internet. Adam Curry said that. But as for the rest of it, these are very thorny issues that we're going to have to deal with. Now, Shirley Sherrod may take this in a new direction. Oh, by the way, did you hear the thorny issues? This is what the president said on The View. Thorney issues. Yeah, yeah, this is a new meme. Thorney issues. Thorney issues. Rection if she actually does pursue a defamation suit as she said she might against Andrew Breitbart. Yeah, I mean she's got the power now and she also has the profile to maybe bring this into a new light. So we'll see where this goes. Well, a lot of people jump on board. This is bogus. There is no defamation.

2:14:07 No, there's no, there's certainly no freedom of defamation. No clause. No, I mean, but the Breitbart thing, which is that you take a clip out of context and you post it. Yeah. You're not calling her a douchebag or anything. There's no defamation. Douchebag's not defamation anyway. You have to call her a criminal or something like that. Yeah. But yeah, no, this, these guys are just talking out of their ass. It's a way to get clips and get clicks on your banners. That's what it's about. But yes, they are talking out of their ass. Alright, I'm sorry. Sorry. I let that run long the show went long because of this but I It's just a great clip and you can find it in the show notes under the ministry of truth that no agenda Show calm and work that org slash na and help us out for the Sunday show. Yes short. Oh

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