Episode 220 · Sunday, 25 July 2010

Hillary For President!

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton acknowledges the blowback of arming Afghan insurgents while federal investigators target Silicon Valley DNA startups and corrupt Pennsylvania judges.

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About this episode

Hillary Clinton admits the United States armed and trained the Mujahideen with Stinger missiles during the Soviet-Afghan War, effectively creating the insurgent threat the military now faces. During a high-profile diplomatic trip to Pakistan with Greta Van Susteren, the Secretary of State acknowledged the historical blowback of Cold War policy. This admission coincides with reports on the toxic legacy of Fallujah, where depleted uranium use is linked to a surge in birth defects.

Secondary developments include a GAO investigation into 23andMe, the DNA testing firm founded by Anne Wojcicki and Sergei Brin, which federal regulators claim provides scientifically bogus health risk data. In Pennsylvania, Judge Michael Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering in the Cash for Kids scandal, involving bribes for juvenile detention sentences. Meanwhile, the Pentagon faces a massive internal probe as several dozen officials and contractors with high-level security clearances were caught in a child pornography investigation dubbed Operation Flicker. Additional reports indicate that Deepwater Horizon technicians inhibited emergency gas alarms to avoid waking crew members, leaving the rig without audible warnings during the fatal explosion.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the San Francisco life-force phenomenon and the strange theory that the Twilight film franchise is a secret allegory for corporate office culture. The duo also performs a de-douching ritual for new donors while examining the potential side effects of the drug Chantix on Mel Gibson. This episode features the launch of the Mothership Boarding Pass for listeners seeking a spot on the translucent blue disc spotted over Malaysia.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

San Francisco Energy, Weather, and Life Force

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing the weather in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. They describe a phenomenon where the city of San Francisco feels as though it sucks the life energy out of visitors. The conversation touches on the chilly climate and the physical sensation of being in the Bay Area.

san francisco· silicon valley· life energy· weather· california

00:00 You have a higher likelihood of getting tased than getting laid. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's July 25th, 2010, time again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 220. This is no agenda. I am your agent, known as the former Soviet spy. Coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's It's never gonna, sun's never gonna come out. It's unbelievable. I'm John C. DeVore Axel. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! We got a beautiful day here, man. I might as well live in Seattle. What would I do? Never mind. It's a beautiful... Are you up north? Are you in, no, you're north of Silicon Valley today? Yeah. Uh-huh.

00:49 It's weird, you know, I was there for two days and the weather was beautiful. Yeah, yeah, well actually about two o'clock in the afternoon should be okay, but it was surprisingly chilly last night, so what can I say? I gotta tell you, and Christina was with me on this trip. By the way, I want to apologize and say hello to all the ships at sea. Yes. And apologize for our tardiness. And well that's for those listening on the live stream and of course a big hello to all the human resources in the chat room listening live now on noagendastream.com and chatting at noagendachat.com. Hope you're all nice and charged up, your government needs you that way. So I was in San Francisco for two days

01:30 And Christina had exactly the same thing. She was with me. She says, I feel, and when we were leaving, she's like, I feel like somehow there's something in San Francisco or it's the air or it's the water, but it kind of sucks the life energy out of you. Like, I feel the same way. I don't know what it is. I was like, huh? It just, yeah. Do you know what I speaketh of, John? No, I've been sucked dry for years. Oh man, that is such a great opening for the show. Thank you. That's the best you can do. It's not going to be that great. Yeah. Why don't we get right into it and do we have any... No, let's get right into mentioning talking about wine and food. We gotta get people to go to our little restaurant. Well, we were going to talk about something. What were we going to talk about? There was some wine and food thing we were going to talk about. Didn't we set that up prior? Mm-mm.

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

23andMe DNA Testing, GAO Investigation, Sergei Brin

A discussion regarding the DNA service company 23andMe follows a meal at the French bistro Fringal. The hosts highlight a Government Accountability Office (GAO) probe forwarded to the FDA and FTC claiming the company's health risk predictions are scientifically bogus. The segment notes the involvement of Google co-founder Sergei Brin and his wife, Anne Wojcicki, in the company's founding and financing.

23andme· sergei brin· dna testing· gao· fda

02:27 No. Well, I don't remember. We did have a nice meal while I was in San Francisco at our favorite little lunch restaurant. which is so favorite I can't remember the name. Yeah there he goes. It's the French place. He's going one day in San Francisco he can't remember anything. It's the French place what's it called? Fringal. Fringal right. I had the lamb shank which was just outstanding and they had what they had boiled that thing for seven hours or something? No seven days or something I can't remember but Whatever the case is they it's a good little place and if anyone wants to have a go to a good French Bistro in San Francisco We recommend it because you'll probably find us there. Yes, you will if you know I'm in San Francisco. That's where you want to be for lunch and And actually just just tell them that that we sent you yeah, do you remember? I think it was

03:22 Maybe two or three times ago and the guy we were talking to well I think we were grilling the waiter about the about the French chick who serves there. They're kind of arrogant French chick She's only I've only seen her what there twice. I think she works odd out She's only on Tuesdays for some reason or something like that and we were talking about and then he started talking to us about Sergei Brin's wife Remember that? Yeah, right. Yeah. You mentioned Sergey. Sergey. Sergey Brin's wife and that she had this really weird DNA business that... Yeah, she's got some company. She's a doctor. She runs a DNA service company of some sort. I didn't even know he was married. Well, it's called... I wasn't invited to the wedding, let's put it that way. It's called 23andMe.

04:12 Yeah, he's the name of this company and what they do and I remember the guy telling us about this story and Sergei is also invested in this company of course for some stupid-ass reason I can't get the Story open by it's alright because I remember what it was And Sergei invested for some stupid-ass reason It was a yeah real stupid-ass reason no, but it's a DNA company and they take your DNA and Of course they don't keep that on record or anything and they can tell if you're susceptible to any type of illness in the future. Yeah. And so I got a report from... So what's wrong with that? Well nothing really but I got a report from one of our producers in the San Jose Mercury News, you being from that general area John, I figured you'd probably be reading that. There was a GAO probe which can be quite painful

05:05 forwarded to the FDA and Federal Trade Commission about this company 23andMe and they essentially said it's bogus. The whole thing is bogus. You cannot tell consumers that they have a chance of getting for example breast cancer or a high risk of it based upon this DNA analysis and I think they might want to put this company and there's another one, Navigenics, out of business. Because it's like, it's like fortune telling. It's not based on any... It's bogus. It's not based on any... SCIENCE! I just caught my eye. I was like, well that's kind of interesting. And the report even says, uh, Sergei Brin's wife and Sergei also invested in the company. Anyway. So, well that brings up a lot of interesting points. And watch Kiki. Watch Kiki.

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Value for Value, No Agenda Films

The hosts acknowledge several high-tier donors, granting Veronica Roberts a standalone executive producer credit. They discuss the "value for value" model and the concept of "karma" associated with donations. Additionally, they announce the launch of noagendafilms.com, a listener-created site dedicated to movies exploring themes discussed on the show.

veronica roberts· value for value· no agenda films· donations· karma

06:03 Her co the co-founder and watch Kiki is married to Sergei Brin co-founder of Google which partly Oh Google partly financed 23andme ooh Mmm, that's interesting. Well, that's gonna be embarrassing if the whole thing's a scam. Mm-hmm Well, or maybe it's right on the money and the government saying hey We want it. We want to be the people who have that info now you who knows could be it could be all kinds of weird stuff going on Anyway, John, I'm really hoping we have a few executive producers for this program. Yeah, we've got four executive producers and one associate executive. Holy cow. And I want to push the one executive producer. I want to create not a new category, but I want to... You know how they do it on the shows where they have executive producer and they have one person's name? Then they have executive producer and they have three people's names. You've seen this. Of course, yes. So I want an executive producer, stand-alone credit for Veronica Roberts.

07:00 Veronica Roberts, okay, so a standalone. Okay, I stand alone. Okay By the way, our next step is boxing things I've got to do some work here now, okay I'm gonna put the boxing stuff off unless somebody you know just gives us night money right off the bat $555 Wow show with no comments. That's just it. You just sent us the money and no cares at all. Oh She doesn't feel like yacking away. Wow and and and one of our few female Supporters, yeah, she gets a standalone She's a standalone er. Yeah standalone er nice and then we have three Three this is a good one three executive producers three executive producers who all gave three

07:52 Well, actually it's funny because one of them gave 333-33 and then the other two gave 333-333. Just too many threes I can't stand! That's the magic number in the morning! Charles Jordan of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, working my way to knighthood. Visit my tiki bar when you're in Milwaukee. The Foundation Tiki Bar at www.foundationbar.com. Okay, a tiki bar we had a party last night set up a tiki bar Matthew Payton Madison, Wisconsin. Wait a minute. Stop me one of them's from Milwaukee The other was from Madison both from Wisconsin both give me three three three

08:32 It's too weird, John. This is going to be a super special show. Well, it's a typical classic random number theory at work. I've donated in the hope of getting some good karma from my friend Christina. She's been sick for a year and I'll take anything that might help in the slightest way. I don't know what she's got. Yeah, well, good karma coming your way. Get well soon, Christina. Yes, please. Please. Eric Bodenstab in Bonner Springs, Kansas. 333 someone at the National Treasurer's getting program ideas from listening to the show our show that's worth some value for value support if it's Only because it's funny. Also, I need some karma trying to sell my house right on I don't know what he's referring to but I said I'm sure somebody just so we don't show up in some GAO report You know this karma thing

09:21 it's this is not something we've made up this is not a selling proposition uh... it just seems to be there for some reason yeah we don't know why uh... but if people keep reporting it so we can't we we we we were happy to take a look at the i don't know i mean we're not making a lot and claiming anything and we don't need and assure karma can be done sepid i avoid in climax north carolina two hundred thirty dollars and he'd be our associate executive producer and he has a note which I have to go back and read because it's on the email somewhere. I bumped it off. Okay, well I have it here. He's donated this week not only because... oops, no, it came off the spreadsheet. Hold on a second. You're hopeless. No, well, he says, he says, see email. So I gotta go with the email and then because you... Well, if Eric knows that it's... if the shill knows that it's an email, why don't you just paste the email in there? Because I didn't send him the email.

10:20 The problem is is because you lost the clips I Bumped my browser off of his email as long as it's my fault somehow it is as always your fault You know that mm-hmm and so what your wife used to tell you I thought we weren't gonna get personal anymore on the show. Oh, I hold on a second I'm just kidding I kid I kid mm-hmm I'm just not that fast with the typing. John and Adam, thanks for the great show. I donated this week not only because I enjoy your show, of course, you know, but also because I'm getting married. Oh yeah, I have this one. This Sunday, instead of wedding favors for the guests, my fiancé decided to make small contributions on behalf of each guest to a charity. I went along with this, but only with the condition that we also donate a portion of the contributions to your show.

11:11 Enjoy the hookers and blow on behalf of the Voight wedding guests. You know, I was thinking what a wonderful idea now, of course This is a horrible precedent for starting your marriage. I don't know if it's really good I don't want to do any to a charity, honey Yeah, as long as we can send some hookers and blow to John and Adam, you know, it just doesn't the I think it takes the charm of America perhaps just a little edge. I don't I don't know, but we really appreciate it's a great idea. No, it's a great idea and and we'd like you to continue and anyone who's getting married do this. This is a great idea and actually I had them filed under PR associates for this very reason along with Nathan Renick

11:56 Who I believe is he actually says the last name is pronounced Renick John butchered it on the last show even when I sent him an email prior What a biz buzzkill he says or maybe it's just his low T This week he won the option to register no agenda co As the .co domain has become available to the world this week. So it's, you know, of course there's noagendashow.com. We don't own noagenda.com. I think there's a band or something that owns it. Yeah, there's a band I think. So he's registered noagenda.co and we appreciate that. That could be useful. On a side note, I'm a sysadmin, he says. Been out of work for 18 months. Not on the government teat.

12:41 Donated 5510 back on the five five ten for the donation drive finally got some karma love I got a six-week contract as a subcontractor and a big project work is work when I get paid for that I'm gonna donate again. Hopefully that karma will come a bit quicker. I love the show keep up the great work. Thank you Nathan Then hey Aaron and Kelly Spears say my wife and I are both fans of the show both minute men who and with two five dollar month subscriptions Thank you so much. Well, we don't have enough to become a knight and or Dame We did come up with another way to help spread the word When I signed up for hosting plan for my own show the world of cinema comm I had a couple of free domain registrations I never use and now we've got no agenda films calm up and running and

13:23 And we'll post any films mentioned on no agenda as well as other films that explore the themes and means that come up on the show a new film every Monday to tide folks over in between shows. Don't worry, we'll keep the Alex Jones film suggestions to a minimum. Yes, please. Keep up the excellent reporting Aaron and Kelly Spears and we highly appreciate that. And of course as we appreciate the fine support from our executive producer stand-alone executive producer Veronica Roberts along with executive producers Charles Jordan, Matthew Payton, Eric Bodenstab and our associate executive producer Zabidaya Voigt. Thank you so much. That is of course really not just appreciated but highly needed. For everybody else out there you know by now you've got to go out and propagate the formula. It's really really simple. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Twilight Movie Allegory, American Business Metaphor

Adam Curry presents a theory that the movie Twilight serves as an allegory for modern American business and office environments. He compares the high school setting to a corporate office, the vampires to business consultants, and the werewolf characters to headhunters. The theory suggests the author's background as a receptionist influenced the story's underlying structure.

twilight· stephenie meyer· allegory· business metaphor· office space

14:24 Oh wow big opening for a big show so I got a couple of things to start off with I think it's somebody got the no agenda films calm I watched a movie no you watch it finally you've watched your weekly movie So my daughter insisted on watching this movie, but only to ridicule it and so I said well hey I'm all for that and so we watched Twilight

15:02 Now, now that's funny, because so I came up with like, this was a few days ago, so I came up with this interpretation I thought was genius, by the way. And then as I tell my daughter this story, she says, well, JC's got another theory, and he's got a theory about the movie. My theory about the movie is that this movie is an allegory or a metaphor or some model of American business. The high school represents the American business that they didn't forks the girl leaves home to go to work She goes to this with the high schools to represent if the girls the charming little girl that meets her the whole thing looks just like Office space the way it's set up and the three evil Dracula the three evil vampires that come in and start killing people represent a

15:48 business consultants who turn into werewolves. Well, they go around and they're killing people, which is the same as firing, and they try to kill this one girl who's protected by one of the, by her, Edward, who is represents her mentor. Isn't Edward the gay one? i don't know who's gay in this thing but anyway edward is that is the is the you know he's not represent representing there is a gay he's repeat the the the sensitive the vampire does it sound like this woman's sensitive right and and that meanwhile is an outside influences this indian kid who knows about you apparently a family knows about these things and he's essentially either a headhunter from another company or he represents uh... what you know outside her outside uh...

16:37 business is what she does outside of work but anyway if you start looking at this thing as a metaphor for modern business uh... it just all fits is just all falls into place the things genius that was this jc's theory or yours out now that's my theory jc's theory is that the whole thing is a metaphor for drug using I'm going with JC. He's a lot smarter than you. The guy's addicted, she's addicted to this one form of drug which is the Edward character and she's trying, and the other guy's trying to get her off and his theory based on what I could hear, I haven't talked to him about it, I'm only getting it second hand, I think is bogus. My theory about the metaphor for business and the office environment is right on the money.

17:20 It's absolute now I see this movie as one of the great works of the time Oh Okay, so we need a Twilight jingle for you John. Yeah, that's gonna have longevity in 50 years from now They'll be they'll be like remember that Twilight movie. Oh, it was so good analyzing It was so good about American business by the way, so I looked into the woman that wrote it And she worked for a while as a receptionist. She says she dreamed the story. Yeah, she dreamed the story because she was in an office environment. She saw what was going on and internalized it. And then this story came out. She doesn't even know herself that she's created a kind of a... A masterpiece. It's a masterpiece. It's a masterpiece, I tell you. Well, now I'll have to go and see it.

18:11 When you watch it in terms and just think about a biggest movie, you know business with corporate thing You're you know, you know how those work. Well, you know what? It's all the characters in the movie What's really good is if this is true and and if this has this subliminal Underlying message is actually really good that all these kids are so into it because they'll they'll have a knowledge of how it's how much it sucks It's preconditioning it's great. Yep. Okay. Well Gee John, I don't have anything quite that deep well You know not to mention we didn't mention Atlas shrug though, and you did come up. We were sitting around at the Fringal restaurant sipping on It was a nice and we had a nice wine. Yeah, it's good one. There's another 2007 Cote D'oron's which are all outstanding and inexpensive and

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Atlas Shrugged Film, Miniseries History, Ken Burns

The conversation shifts to the difficulty of adapting Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged into a film. The hosts discuss the potential for a miniseries format, reminiscing about classic long-form television like Roots and Shogun. They also critique the "Ken Burns effect" in documentaries, suggesting his style contributed to the decline of traditional miniseries.

atlas shrugged· ayn rand· miniseries· ken burns· shogun

19:00 anyway uh... thirty five bucks or so right yet the restaurant normally have a note that looked it up on my uh... hello vino app and it listed for fifteen ninety five so that's not what you get a store right the uh... but but if for anyone out there is blue looks at wine list the two thousand seven wines from the road or all killers and there no matter what the price high low whatever uh... anyway the you came up with the idea yours or we talk about the one of our producers uh... Said hey, you know in fact it was one of our producers from Goldman Sachs. You know we have we have some supporters over there I said, you know we're all crazy about Atlas shrugged yeah, duh and We've all we've all got the book. You know we all have the the Millennium Edition part of the assignment. Yeah, it's really it's like you know you want to work here read this book and come back and there'll be a test and

19:53 He said you know I think I can get some guys to pitch in and you know of course they've got just gobs of money over there and We'd love we'd love to do You know to finance a film version of Atlas shrugged and I started looking into it and I talked to Mickey I said how come you know this there's been many rumors and they've talked about it and you know the last rumor was Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were supposed to star as Hank and Dagny and And they were gonna do it, and I guess Brad Pitt pulled out. It's like, why is this thing so impossible to make? It seems like an obvious great story. You know, people know the book. It seems like a no-brainer. And she says, it is impossible to write a screenplay for this 8,000 page book. And, you know, because you really, what are you gonna leave out? You wind up messing it up. You're just gonna leave out some of the nuances that kind of make it so great.

20:43 Although even I would be like can we please cut the whole radio speech in half? And I said well, why don't we just do a miniseries it could be never-ending and then you and I were talking about this and you know Where did the miniseries go we used to have great miniseries which would go on forever like roots like north and south What else did we have? Well, there's that Clavel thing that I can't remember the name of. Maybe the chat room can remember where this guy goes to China and or no, he goes to Japan and he has to blend in or something. Don't I don't know what you're talking about the last miniseries. I saw was V and that failed after like yeah, well V Yeah, well V. Yeah V. Well there was that most recently it's apparently ever since Valerie Bertonelli stopped acting a lot of these miniseries is She was the key to the miniseries she wasn't in roots. Maybe the key wasn't in North and South I

21:39 No, but she was in all the more recent ones. Well, that's the problem right there. Anyway, I thought it was a really good idea. I mean, a miniseries can go on forever, right? It could just keep going and you'd always be wondering, you know, where does it end? Shogun, that's the name of it. Shogun, oh, okay. Wow. It's huge. Wow. Anyway, so yeah, and then somebody else mentions in the chairman that Ken Burns is somebody's anything by Ken Burns Ken Burns probably ruined the miniseries What did he do? Ken Burns is the guy who does all these documentaries for PBS where they show an old photo and then somebody reading a letter Oh, is that the Ken the Ken Burns effect? Yeah, you were the photo like zoom around on the photo and you have somebody reading a note from mom written in 1840 Man, it's got I'm riveted who needs ambient when you've got Ken Burns All right. Let me switch topics. We were talking. I think the past two episodes about the shotgun taser

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Taser International X12 Shotgun, Hospital Tasing Incidents

The hosts examine the Taser International X-Rep, a wireless electronic projectile fired from a standard 12-gauge shotgun. They express concern over the potential for lethal errors when mixing taser shells with live ammunition. The discussion includes a report on the increasing use of tasers in hospitals, specifically mentioning an incident involving the nephew of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

taser international· x-rep· shotgun· clarence thomas· hospitals

22:35 And of course, lo and behold, when you talk about stuff on this show, and this is the beauty of it, and this is why I have like 168 different news items I've tagged in between shows, and I have to look at them all because I don't want to miss them. And people sent me this wonderful YouTube clip. About the taser international XR EP better known as X rep and you and I were joking about Basically, you've got it's a you're shooting a battery at someone and I just wanted to play the the opening of this Yeah, if create is a battery listen So how do you take what many people consider to be the greatest less than lethal option on the planet? By the way, I love this guy

23:13 So, how do you take what anyone considers to be the greatest less than lethal option on the planet and make it even better? You turn it into the x-rep extended range electronic projectile Now listen you take all that capability and you can fire out of a standard 12-gauge shotgun So this thing is it's like a bullet it deploys little fins and then it flies and it hits you really hard It's coming out of a shotgun It's a shotgun shell. It's accurate up to 65 feet and then it deploys a little Kevlar string with a second electric

23:57 to give maximum shock range, which then falls into your, well they keep showing it falling into your groin, but I'm pretty sure this thing's gonna fall into your nuts. And then it shocks you and it puts you out for longer than normal, which is I think 25 seconds, which should be enough time for you to run and then go jump on top of the guy. Now all of this is great, and this is a seven minute promotional video from the Discovery Channel no less. But I'm thinking, we've already had these cases and of course this is what the cop kind of, he didn't get off entirely, he got second degree manslaughter in Oakland. You know, oh well I grabbed my taser, I thought it was my gun. But now when you're actually supposed to shoot these out of a gun, out of a standard shotgun, I mean the margin for error of, oh I loaded the wrong shell, is getting pretty narrow here.

24:49 And this is just, this is not okay. Asking for trouble. And it's not, and you know so I've been talking, I actually went out for lunch with the nerds at the office, the engineers. And then we'd be talking about this and you know, and you know, just kind of like, you know, this whole taser thing. Now these stories start showing up like this one from the Washington Post. Hospitals are now debating, even though they've been using them for quite a while, the use of tasers in hospitals. I didn't know this was happening. I didn't either. I never heard this. Well, on July 8th, a security guard used a stun gun on the 25-year-old nephew of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

25:27 After he allegedly became combative when trying to leave a Marrero, Louisiana hospital against doctors orders and they tased the fucker No, you can't leave And this apparently is like here at 2009 Take your flu shot 12. I don't want a flu shot over 1,200 people were stunned in hospitals It's like what they're tasing you in the hospital now What's next? You're in school? Hey, Billy, Billy! Shut... shut... what? Just tase your kid. Why not? Who gives a crap? Oh, you know what? I bet you if we... if somebody out there... I bet you this is already going on in schools. Not that you mention it. And it's... it's so outrageous. It's just outrageous. This whole stun gun thing, it's got to stop. You know, this is worse than real guns. This is such a menacing threat.

26:29 You know and and John I guarantee you before I am dead you're you may be you're probably out of the danger zone there I'm sure I'm gonna get tased somewhere. I'm surprised you haven't been tased already I'm gonna say something to somebody and he the person is just gonna whip around and fire the electrodes into my butt Just to tell me to shut up you have a higher likelihood of getting tased than getting laid. I'm telling you it's crazy That's a t-shirt by the way. It is a t-shirt. T-shirt alert. T-shirt alert for our t-shirt designers. Higher chance of getting tased than laid in high school. It's just like wow, tasing in high schools. And Clarence Thomas, his nephew, Supreme Court Justice.

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Federal Shower Head Regulations, Hotel Green Initiatives

A discussion on federal regulations limiting shower head water flow to 2.5 gallons per minute leads to a critique of government overreach. The hosts mock hotel "green" initiatives that encourage guests to reuse towels, characterizing them as cost-saving measures disguised as environmentalism.

shower heads· water conservation· regulations· hotels· environment

27:11 The pubic hair on the Coke can guy, by the way. Long dong silver. Long dong silver. That's the best one. And most people don't remember that because they're too young. Yeah, I remember it. I remember it. Long dong silver. That's when Senate confirmation hearings were great. Now they're just boring. Now they're just boring. It was flying back then. And the Democrats wanted anything but a black conservative. Yeah. It got the heavy hitters. So yeah, Helen Nolten did a great one on that. So there's a little known law that I discovered that stems from 1992 and now is all of a sudden, of course, as we have to save the planet, as we are killing it.

27:55 is starting to be redeployed I guess. You know there's a regulation as to how much water a shower nozzle can emit. Did you realize this? I didn't realize it but I'm not surprised. Yeah there's a federal maximum for shower heads and that is two and a half gallons per minute at 80 pounds per square inch. That's quite a bit. If you think about it. I don't know. I mean, I do know that these rain showers, which actually they deploy in the United Kingdom a lot. You know, the big shower heads that you stand under and it's like standing under a waterfall. Yeah. So these are going to be outlawed. And the federal government now has a tough new line on water hogging shower heads. And so I guess the guy who owns the company that makes the Rain Dance Imperial

28:49 which has a 24 inch spray face, 358 no clog channels and a triple massage option is starting the leave my shower alone campaign. And wasn't there... There's not that many people that use those types of showers. Wasn't it William Buckley who said you'll know that the government has gone too far when a hand reaches into your shower and adjusts the temperature of the water? I think that was one of his famous... I don't know, it seems unlikely that Buckley would have said that, but somebody... Yeah, he said that probably as a... with a glint in his eye. But there you go, the government now sticking their hand into your shower.

29:27 Yeah, like well, okay my favorite thing during we had a shower crisis. We had a water crisis in California shower No, that's England where they have a shower crisis So they made everybody go to these low-flow shower heads and there's still a bunch of them in some hotels are ass They totally said you turn it on and it's like it's they make a fine mist spray It doesn't do anything. It's like you have to stand there for day. You have to run around to get wet believable I know they're horrible and there's a nice little note in the hotel that says we're conserving the earth yeah I'm paying 500 bucks for this crappy ass shower which is all I really want is a place to poop and shower and shave and then you're conserving the earth resources with this stupid shower. That's a good voice. Yeah thanks it's my Jackie Martling I'm working on it. So yeah you gotta use that voice more. Okay. So um

30:25 Well, somebody sent in a note complaining about these hotels that have the green notification. You know, you go to a hotel, you spend $300 for a room, and then there's a little... note on your bed that says, oh, if you don't mind using your towel again, we're saving the environment, we're saving the world because we don't want to wash all these towels over and over. That's pretty much everywhere these days. I think it's a regulation now. They have to put that in. And the way to signify you want your towels washed is to throw them in the bathtub. And otherwise, please hang it up. I feel like my mom is renting out a room to me. It's like, please.

31:07 Please yeah, and and you know we only change the sheets After every guest I don't like that one That's not my favorite thing. It's like I want fresh sheets every night especially paying big money Yeah for three four hundred bucks and by the way don't you dare smoke in the room will give you the $250 Room cleanup fee well they spray some Lysol or something yeah, they don't do did well. Yeah, what do they do? Well, there's some can of something And I basically I just need one of those cans and they spray that and it removes the odor pretty much Yeah, and by the way, I don't advocate that because people who want a smoke-free room It sucks it stinks when you come in and someone's misspoken there. So but it's basically a $250 ashtray. It's the way I view it. Hey Well, that's it for today's show. No, I'm I'm so far from done. I

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Pentagon Child Pornography Investigation, Operation Flicker

The hosts analyze a report by Brian Bender regarding Pentagon officials and contractors with high-level security clearances caught in a child pornography investigation. They question the vague "several dozen" figure used in the reports and suggest the investigation might be a diversion or a tool for blackmail within agencies like the NSA and DARPA.

pentagon· nsa· child pornography· operation flicker· brian bender

32:02 I just don't know where to start. Okay. I mean I could give it a little whirl if you want. Go ahead, what is it that's in your craw? Well the big story that people email to me with glee, I have to say, is that I have a whole section of the pedo bear who strikes again. Pentagon workers tied to child porn. And I think I mentioned this to you, John, but you probably went like, oh brother. And did you read any of this? I said, oh brother, and I said, no, I'm not going to read it. And I let you, you can handle it. I think Federal investigators have identified several, several dozen. Okay. So several would be more than two. That would be a couple dozen. So several dozen, I'm going to say, is that four dozen?

32:54 I would say three. This is from boston.com. So I dislike it severely when the report starts off with a nefarious number. Several dozen Pentagon officials and contractors. It's not a nefarious number, it's a dubious number. Thank you. So let's say about 30 to 300 in my book. Pentagon officials and contractors with high-level security clearances who allegedly purchased and downloaded child pornography, including an undisclosed number, who used their government computers to obtain the illegal material. The investigations have included employees of the National Security Agency,

33:32 The National Reconnaissance Office, never even heard of that one. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, DARPA, which deal with some of the most sensitive work in intelligence and defense, among other organizations within the Defense Department. The number of offenders is a small percentage of the thousands. I love how this like but it's only a small percentage of people working for sensitive pentagon related agencies but the fact that offenders included people with access to government secrets puts national security agencies at risk of blackmail bribery threats especially and this is true of course especially since these individuals typically have access to military installations now

34:10 And this is a report by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service from late 2009. The NSA, by the way, is actually involved in the investigation of these child pornography fiends. What I like about this report from Boston.com, and this is the big story, and they spent money on this, is the reporter, and we might as well just play this for him right now. I hope this guy makes it out. You know what happened to the Bloomberg guy who kept moaning and bitching about the two trillion dollars the Fed lent to banks overseas and wouldn't tell anybody and still hasn't? He died. But this guy actually goes out, puts out a little video and talks about his story which I thought was very brave and very necessary. Let's listen to him for a moment. I'm Brian Bender here in the Boston Globe's Washington Bureau and

35:02 I'm looking into some investigations conducted by the Defense Department in recent years into government officials, including many with high security clearances, who were accessing child pornography. These individuals came to the attention of DOD primarily because the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency launched something called Operation Flicker back in 2006, which was looking into some of these child pornography sites, particularly overseas, and found that a number of government officials here in the U.S., including at some very secret Defense Department agencies like the National Security Agency, were apparently buying some of these images off the Internet, and in some cases even using their government computers to do so. According to the investigation reports that we have,

35:52 At least several dozen government officials were investigated. Some of them were prosecuted. Other cases are still pending. And in some cases, the cases were dropped simply because the government didn't think that they would be able to bring a case. Officials are particularly alarmed by the fact that these are government officials with very high security clearances who could be compromised. They could be blackmailed. bribed so therefore these cases were considered top priority and Brian now learning about them because these What'd you say? What do you say could be bribed? What's bribe? What do you mean? It could be bribed? I think it just means blackmailed or that I mean, this is the whole problem. This is also said several dozen once again

36:40 Yeah, well, so I find this to be very dubious. Well, and I have to agree with you. I think that someone or someones Went a little bit too far with the blackmailing because this is what happens consistently in the injustice system systems systems around the world is that someone you know is compromised because someone else has the dirt on them and and then it escalates and people either wind up dead or the lower guys who of course are in the cabal and they say, hey well you know it doesn't really matter if someone blows the whistle on me but if I blow the whistle on you buddy well then you're completely dead and then you'll be ruined.

37:23 And so they start to out them and I think that there's a clearly a nest of this going on. Yeah, I'm not buying any of it. Nest bullcrap. How are you telling me somebody in the NSA is that stupid and naive to use a government computer to buy child porn? Where are they buying child porn? What constitutes child porn? You're not listening to what I'm saying. The real people who are really involved in the nasty business are outing these lower level people. Just making shit up. Just to create a diversion, oh we've cleaned it all up because something was getting too hot under their feet. And this guy, Brian Bender, he's certainly being used to propagate this message. Because it's just too fishy.

38:13 Well, that's my point. And of course the giveaway is this term several dozen. Yeah, exactly. And why we, you know, he says it in the, in the writing. He says it when he speaks, it's almost for the obvious. That means to me, it's the script. There's this vague, we don't know who they are. That way we can't go, you can't demand to see how many there were. Well, I want to, I demand, you know, say you're an investigator, I would demand to see how many people were there, I don't know. Well also, could we just have one person convicted? Could we have one name? I mean, when some douchebag is found with, you know, like pornographic images on his computer, you know, it's headline news. It's, oh, we got one!

38:53 We got one! You know when some kids are sexting each other, which is just another case in like Oklahoma or something, you know they have to register as sex offenders. But when this happens in our government, true or not, there's never anyone hung out to dry. There's no names in this. There's no one who was, well some were prosecuted but you know, just kind of swept it under the carpet. You're right, it's a complete distraction from something much bigger going on. And Google actually knows Thought this was very funny Do you ever look at fail blog and you know I do but it's right, you know Maybe once every few months so fail blog org had a couple days ago They had a a Google win sometimes they have wins instead of just fails apparently for a while And I don't know if this was just in Italy or if it was worldwide if you typed in Vatican into

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Cash for Kids, Judicial Corruption in Pennsylvania

The segment covers the "Cash for Kids" scandal in Pennsylvania, where Judge Michael Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering for taking bribes to send juveniles to private detention centers. The hosts decry the profit motives in the U.S. prison system and the excessively harsh sentences given to minors for kickbacks.

michael conahan· cash for kids· pennsylvania· racketeering· prison

42:04 Tacoma, 27 year old army sergeant from Joint Base Lewis McCord in Washington State has pleaded guilty in federal court to sex trafficking of a child and attempted sex trafficking of a child. Sterling Hopes Dale, see this guy, this 27 year old schmuck, they out him immediately. Set up one juvenile in a Lakewood apartment to work as a prostitute, had a second juvenile flown in from Wyoming to do the same. And meanwhile of course that douchebag that we talked about who had Clinton and everybody as his buddies, he gets off light. And then we have, this one was kind of crazy from the BBC. None of this by the way reported on your local news.

42:46 Former Pennsylvania Judge Michael Conahan has pleaded guilty to a racketeering conspiracy conspiracy charge for helping put juvenile defendants behind bars in exchange for bribes. This is really a good one. So it's not exactly pedo-bear but borders on it. This guy was putting juvies into juvie hall for cash because it was so profitable with the jail. Yeah, because the government pays you so much money per prisoner so they've been jacking up these, they've been throwing people in for no good reason. The San Jose system has got some of this going on they haven't been able to correct. It's known as the Cash for Kids program and up to 2,000 juveniles

43:27 Excessively harsh sentences so he could get kickbacks. Yeah, that's just another form of child abuse I don't care if you're if you're sex trafficking or sending him to jail. I mean, it's all this all the same thing It's just unbelievable. Yeah that actually something has to be done about that. I mean we've we have more people in jail per capita We have more than anyone jail in the United States in terms of total numbers and in terms of per capita We got more people in jail than in school And it's like ridiculous because it's a moneymaker and somebody's profiting from it and they don't give a crap about anything but themselves. And this is a scandal. And the judges that are in on this should all be, they should all be thrown, they should take everyone out of jail and put the judges in that have put up with it, that have actually created the situation. And then the lawmakers who have the three strikes laws and all the other stuff, you know, where the guy like steals a bottle of pop and is his third strike and he's in jail forever.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Al Gore Sexual Harassment Allegations, Carbon Trading

The hosts discuss sexual harassment allegations against Al Gore involving massage therapists in Oregon and Tokyo. They use the reports to criticize Gore's public image and his involvement in carbon trading and cap-and-trade schemes, which they characterize as a scam.

al gore· sexual harassment· national inquirer· carbon trading· global warming

44:23 and even though well he's not really the pedo bear but he is and again I'm telling you there's something going on and of course you know power throughout history we know that when people have power it makes them horny. Isn't that true? Doesn't power make you horny somehow? Well power corrupts. Yeah but it's crazy what's happening and of course We know that Al Gore needed to be sidelined. I guess what happened is the masseuse from Oregon, I think her case got thrown out for insufficient evidence.

45:02 You know that he was a sex crazed poodle and this of course was as reported in the globe Yeah, and then since then yes the Inquirer the actual extension of the Central Intelligence Agency Now has two new masseuses who? You got to read the one line that's in there That's hilarious the therapists claimed that when they were alone and this happened the night of the Oscars when he went to pick up his undeserved Oscar And it happened again in Tokyo. When they were alone, Gore shrugged off the towel, stood naked in front of the therapist, pointed to his erect penis and ordered to take care of this. I don't know if the emphasis was on the word this. Yes, it is. It's an all caps. Take care. No, it's all in. No, the emphasis is on this. Take care of this. Take care of this.

46:01 Bitches get on that get on that thing so gore is Gore is not gonna be you know This is keep they're gonna do what they have to do to keep gore out of the you know He can't go give us speeches anymore. No he does the whole he needs to shut up slave Yeah, it's like take care of this will be the catchphrase if he shows up anywhere And I laugh because he deserves it he deserves it so much and for trying to scam us into his carbon trading business. Which apparently is now dead, right? I mean, now that New York's not dead yet, they're hanging in there and you talk to any liberals that happen to be, you know, unreconstructed, and you bring up this whole thing, they go, what? Huh? Oh no, global warming, yeah, that's terrible. You don't question it at all? You don't think the carbon trading thing is a scam and cap and trade's a joke because if you're serious, you just want to cap things, not trade them? Huh? What?

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Pakistan Trip, Mujahideen History

Hillary Clinton's diplomatic trip to Pakistan with Greta Van Susteren is analyzed. The hosts highlight a clip where Clinton admits the United States helped create the problem it is currently fighting by arming and training the Mujahideen with Stinger missiles during the Soviet-Afghan War.

hillary clinton· pakistan· mujahideen· cia· greta van susteren

47:01 but i but i'm reading in the new york times that harry reid is saying i we don't have the votes although they don't so uh... so that the week we've we did this on the show already we had a quote from somebody and it was a republican though who said look they didn't want to get that last at massachusetts guy they don't have the votes in most of democrats are going to take a risk it at putnet pushing this thing through cuz it's got a bad reputation again a dream name it reformulated sums you know it'll come back on onto no doubt about that but right now They're saying, oh, it's dead for now. We can't do it now. But yeah, they will come back in some other form for sure. There's too much money to be made off this stupid public. So I have a clip of our next president of the United States of Gitmo Nation, who of course will be Hillary Clinton. And that's so obvious that she's gearing up for it. And she took Greta Van Susteren

47:53 On the road with her to Pakistan. Well, there's a couple. Yeah, I know it kind of turns me on. I like just imagine those two clam bumping. So, um, and Hillary Clinton is, by the way, very well versed in international politics and affairs. I mean, she's, she is for all intents and purposes a reincarnation of Madeleine Albright, only she's speaking... Do you find it interesting? I thought this observation of mine was curious. So we've had our secretaries of state, the ones that go from country to country to country pushing our agenda, and go to Muslim countries who don't have a lot of respect for women. Our last three major secretaries of state in a row were all women. Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice, who's not only a woman but a black woman, which makes it even more probably

48:47 curious to the Muslims, the Saudis or whoever and now we have another one. Don't we have any men that can do this job anymore or are we doing this on purpose? I really don't know and I agree with you it seems like that's kind of what it's supposed to be And that's what you know clearly that's what the script calls for because that's what they keep doing off Well until they get a load of this one. Yeah, but but these women are all highly intelligent And they speak very affluently and they get along fabulously with all international leaders of all ilk And Hillary, as we already pointed out, she's got the George Washington hairdo going, she's totally gearing up and I think she'll probably resign in time to start running for the 2012 election, as you already have stated that Obama will probably just say, I'm giving up, I gotta go focus on the kids and the obesity thing and whatever.

49:41 But she sits down with Greta Van Susteren and it's a nine minute clip and it'll be on noagenda tv.com so you should watch the whole thing because she's also touching her nose a lot kind of like a coke tick there which was interesting. That wouldn't surprise me. Yeah and then she starts talking about it's about terrorism about Pakistan then about Afghanistan and how we can't make the same mistake we made previously and she admits to something in such a cavalier manner, which of course Credit France-Ustern doesn't pick up on, but I was blown away when I heard this. Listen. If we walked away from this, didn't give them money today, it would be worse for us from a security standpoint. I do. I do. We're building a relationship that just did not exist. I said in our last trip when you were with me that we had a huge trust deficit in part because the United States had

50:31 To be fair, we had helped to create the problem we're now fighting. How? Because when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, we had this brilliant idea that we were going to come to Pakistan and create a force of Mujahideen, equip them with stinger missiles and everything else to go after the Soviets inside Afghanistan. And we were successful. The Soviets left Afghanistan and then we said, great, goodbye, leaving these trained people who were fanatical in Afghanistan and Pakistan, leaving them well armed, creating a mess, frankly, that at the time we didn't really recognize. We were just so happy to see the Soviet Union fall and we thought, okay, fine, we're okay now. Everything's going to be so much better.

51:16 Now you look back, the people we're fighting today, we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets. Now, excuse me, but did she not just exactly say that the biggest joke of all of this is that the Mujahideen, which was set up by the CIA with Stinger missiles, and I have something to say about that, that they are now essentially Al-Qaeda? Isn't she admitting that? No, I think she said well yeah there's that but I think she's and the Taliban. Yeah but it's all you know first it was Bin Laden then it was Saddam Hussein then it's the Al-Qaeda then Al-Qaeda because the Taliban have links to Al-Qaeda I mean it all comes back to the guys that we set up in the first place. Pretty much. And she's actually admitting this and she's like yeah that's right yeah and Greta's just like I'm happy to be here on the trip with you.

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Stinger Missile Efficacy, Fallujah Toxic Legacy

The discussion turns to the technical limitations of Stinger missiles, including expiration dates and minimum firing angles. This leads to a report on the toxic legacy of the U.S. assault on Fallujah, Iraq, where the use of depleted uranium is linked to a dramatic increase in birth defects and cancer.

stinger missiles· fallujah· depleted uranium· iraq· weaponry

52:07 Yeah, it's just and then this by the way. Did you know she said they ran on a trip before? Yeah, I noticed that when you were with me before she said not just on it when you were with me before Hey, baby, and when you were with me before Greta, what do you think Greta has that frown? So but she mentioned stinger missiles and I was talking to Tony the terrorist and who drives me whenever I'm in San Francisco. And Tony says, oh, these Stinger missiles. And this guy, he's more crackpot than I am, Tony. And he says, you know, the big joke about these Stinger missiles, he says they have an expiration date, you know, these things are duds. They're always talking about, oh, the Stingers, oh, the Stingers. But A, they're duds because they just go cold. He says, you know, 80% don't work anymore because they just, you know, they have a shelf life.

52:57 And second of all, he says the big thing about a Stinger missile, which is shot from the shoulder, sight only, it's no guided missile, you know, it's just you put it on your shoulder and you fire it. You can't, you can only fire it above a certain angle, because these things are built to not fire so you don't like fire into your foot or fire into the ground, because they're basically meant to shoot down. That would be bad. but they're meant to shoot down helicopters and everyone knows, this is the big joke, if you fly below 700 feet the stinger can't actually get you because the tilt is too low and the thing won't fire. Unless you're right over the guy, you can shoot straight up. But then he goes by so fast, if you're at 500 feet and you fly over it's almost impossible. So these things are basically useless, yet they're always touted as, oh they've got stingers, oh they've got stinger missiles,

53:46 The big joke in terrorist land is that they suck. They're no good. They're duds. It's just like they're useless. This is not a useful weapon anymore. Yeah, well, I think they have to be designed with that in mind. Most of our weaponry is designed with fail safe mechanisms. You know, there's transponders that are on planes and sometimes the missiles are designed if they sense that they can't hit that plane, they won't do it. There's a whole bunch of fail-safe mechanisms and I think the best one would be if the thing expires and you try to launch it just blows up and kills you. In your pocket. Although, a big report in the Independent about Fallujah and this will just tell you a little bit about the type of weaponry we've been using. A headline, toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah worse than Hiroshima.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

White Phosphorus Use, Israel Gaza Offensive

The hosts report on Israel's statement to the United Nations regarding the limited future use of white phosphorus. They recount the devastating physical effects of the chemical during the Gaza offensive and criticize its use as a "smoke screen" when it causes severe chemical burns.

white phosphorus· israel· gaza· united nations· chemical weapons

54:38 dramatic increases in children born with dysformities, cancer, three arms, all kinds of crap. And the reason why, of course, is because we use depleted uranium. Fucking poison the whole... the whole... the whole... everyone out there. They're all poisoned. It's disgusting. Yeah, the depleted uranium shells are all over Iraq. Yeah. And then Israel, very funny, just, ha-ha, They come out and say, hey, you know, we're going to limit our use of white phosphorus in conflict. Of course, first they denied it. White phosphorus, by the way, is it kind of explodes in the air and it comes down and it burns you like to death. Burns right through you. Yeah, it burns down through your bone. And it's terrible stuff. And they went to the United Nations and handed in a report and said, well, you know, we promise we'll use less. We'll limit it. We'll only use it to create a smoke screen in combat.

55:40 Meanwhile, you know, there was when they, the last time the, with the Gaza offensive, they were popping this stuff off left and right, just burning people down to the bone. Just disgusting the things we can do to each other as people. And then I'll get off of this because it's just making me crazy. Noam Chomsky. Tell me about Noam. Noam Chomsky is a self-loathing Jewish hyper intellectual who is a trickster. He is one of the foremost linguists in the world. He teaches linguistics. He's not a politician, he's not a political guy. He's a linguistics expert. And he has a very compelling writing and speaking style, although his speaking style is very extremely slow. Irritating to listen to. And irritating and slow moving. But if you start to deconstruct his work,

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

Noam Chomsky Critique, Iran Attack Buildup

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak critique Noam Chomsky's linguistic style and political history, specifically his past support for the Khmer Rouge. They play a clip of Chomsky discussing the Obama administration's buildup of "bunker buster" bombs and naval forces in the Persian Gulf in preparation for a potential attack on Iran.

noam chomsky· iran· obama· linguistics· propaganda

56:33 he is, all his sentences and the way he structures things is so loaded with propagandistic usages and techniques and certain adjectives that I've made an exercise of doing this in front of people where if you go and look at all his adjectives and you just change them and you don't change any information other than adjectives you can make what he's saying sound exactly the opposite he is a very a person that people get addicted to for some reason and they think he's some sort of an intellectual genius I find him to be a very negative influence in the world today. Would you like to deconstruct about a minute of his speech? I can take a shot at it. Yeah, he recorded an address to the United National Peace Conference

57:24 Quite sure what that is. Oh, he's a communist. That's probably some communist organization. Well It's about the US And our imminent attack on Iran and some of the things he's saying are the things we've discussed in in this very program But I yeah, well, he's not dead wrong on everything. He says that's for sure Well, let's let's listen to him and if you you just yell stop when you want to deconstruct military base that it uses for attacking the Middle East and Central Asia The Navy is expanding facilities there for nuclear-powered guided missile submarines with tomahawk missiles which can carry nuclear warheads Each submarine is reported to have he's talking about the buildup in in the Persian Gulf the striking power of a typical naval carrier battle group

58:14 The Obama buildup also includes hundreds of so-called bunker buster bombs, the most powerful in the arsenal short of nuclear weapons. These are intended for blasting hardened underground structures aimed for Iran, of course. The planning for these bombs began under Bush but languished. Obama accelerated the program sharply as soon as he took office. And that I found kind of interesting. By the way, the guy is like so anti-Obama. Oh yeah, he's a... he's a... he and many of the progressives that are in his camp and the ones even further left, they hate what they call neoliberals. And people should do a little work on this one so they can catch up to this. But neoliberals are a type of liberal that's a globalist, an internationalist,

59:10 a sleazeball in their minds and against the people and the distribution of, the true distribution of wealth. They want just the rich to get richer and all this sort of thing. And Clinton is like the classic, classic neoliberal and Hillary would be too, that they're gonna hate her. But just because somebody's left like this guy doesn't mean he's going to be pro-Obama. Well no, but he's actually left unlike, this is my point, unlike Obama who essentially is not left at all. He's part of the whole elite cabal and he's saying right here, Obama accelerated the bunker busters. He's worse than Bush is what he's saying.

59:46 I didn't know that by the way. He said, well, you know, he also said that Bush let it, he said he started it and then let it languish and there was no explanation for that. He's talked, so far his information is vague. This is typical of Chomsky. A lot of vague assertions, a lot of generalities, all ominous of course, and then a few sharp, you know, needles to whoever he's targeting. In this case it seems to be Obama. Yeah, a couple more. couple more. And they're now to be deployed years ahead of schedule of course aimed at Iran. very respected British strategic analyst Dan Plesch, he points out, I'm quoting him there, gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran. The US bombers and long-range missiles are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours. The firepower of US forces has quadrupled since 2003, accelerating rapidly under Obama.

1:00:48 uh... the u.s. had loved that accelerating rapidly several dozen several days is the word uses the word that's a real use of the word uh... accelerate accelerated of course doesn't know that how does he know but for example that this year's ahead of schedule is unlike that i i i i like it's all bullshit you know this is making this stuff up as it goes along as that you know how do we know it's years ahead of schedule could be behind schedule for all we know and how would he know But I do like that he's basically saying Obama is a douchebag. That is amusing. Yeah, it's very amusing. But you know, if it was up to him, he'd have... You gotta remember, this is the guy, and there'll be some people in the chat room or something, oh this is bullcrap. I've looked at this and I remember when it happened, because I was like, you know, in school.

1:01:36 and he was uh... the infected hurt this guy quite a bit and he's trying to lie his way out of it but no chomsky was a huge supporter of the camera ruch he thought that the he was a bit big antiwar and they did not more guy and he supported poll pop that it was a great guy and it's here the great operation and i heard of do is to go on about this in the sixty minutes over one of these the tv things and he's just blatant about it and uh... But of course we had a million people killed on the killing fields and it wasn't so great anymore. Yeah, and then he denied ever have oh no I know I never thought much to the guy only he's backed off from but the fact of the matter is he would just as soon have Stalin running things as anyone else and So I don't really care much for the for him But you know you have to be unfortunate got such a big platform that you have to listen to him, but anyway did anymore It's just more of the same. You know he says we're going into to blast Iran. That's how does he how does he know there's 10,000? Noam Chomsky

1:02:35 He knows! He knows. You know what, um... Would you call me back, John? Because you just went to AM. Ooh! The AM quality and... Yeah, and hi ladies and gentlemen, John DeVore here on the AM radio. 1260, the time in San Francisco. Just shut him up. Alright, call me back. This is what we do on a live show. I'm not even gonna cut this out. So good. Come on, call me back, John. You know what, he's gonna sit there like, you were gonna call me back! I guess I'll just call him. Be easier that way. You sound better? Yeah, much better. You were waiting for me to call you? No, I had somebody else's window open so I called down. Who? I just see a little red thing. You butt dialed on Skype. You butt dialed. Who'd you call? I called, uh, uh, Stek. Oh no.

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

Internet Advertising Bureau, Privacy Legislation, Donor De-douching

The hosts criticize the Internet Advertising Bureau for testifying against privacy bills in Congress. They contrast the intrusive nature of internet advertising with their own listener-supported model, proceeding to thank various donors and perform "de-douching" rituals for those who have finally contributed to the show.

internet advertising bureau· privacy· cookies· donations· de-douching

1:03:33 Okay, hey, we're overdue here my friend. We need to talk about this program, how it operates and the fact that in the last hour you've not heard a single ad. Not a single one because we don't run ads. It's actually the Internet Advertising Bureau Because I subscribe to all that crap. These are the guys that determine how the pre-rolls are supposed to be. We're like standardized and how big banners are supposed to be and all this internet advertising crap. They are actually testifying before Congress this week, or they were this week, against our privacy.

1:04:19 Saying, oh, you know these privacy bills they will harm business and consumers. I.e. opt in and opt out. So they feel that if you give your information first hand to a company, willingly or not, like in a cookie, etc. Like a double click cookie track, that they should be able to do with that whatever they want. This is what the... Play it, play it. Douchebags. Come on. Douchebag! And their argument is, well, you know, without these fantastic advertisers, the internet would not be where it is today.

1:04:55 I'm like, oh really? What a mess? A complete kerfuffle? It's a mess. Yeah, it is. It is pop-ups, pop-unders, all kinds of bullcrap. I was again doing a Google search this week for something. All I got was just advertising sites and I went 10 deep. to find something out. 10 deep. Oh, you can't find anything. I couldn't even 10 deep. I had to get 10 deep. I couldn't find anything. It was unbelievable. So let's thank some people that help us because this is a user supported show. That's all it's ever going to be. We're not going to take ads. If people stop supporting the show, we stop doing it. It's just that simple. It's not that difficult to figure out.

1:05:31 We'd like to get more listeners and that would help us actually make money off the show. It's a total numbers game. It's not that hard. All you have to do is get more people. We do seem to be going up in listenership, but for some reason we're not seeing that in the donation numbers. Maybe it has to be a certain percentage. Or maybe they have to listen longer. I'm not sure. We do have new listeners every week. They show up on the spreadsheet in green, that's what the green is. And we don't necessarily talk about them being newbies, but you can see them crop up here and there. Anyway, we do have to thank people like David Dietrich from Round Rock, Texas, that gave us $88. And Matthew Wilson in Hanover, Pennsylvania, $78.65. And I think we have a birthday message coming from him or for him in a minute.

1:06:15 So, Stephan or Stephen Stanley at Whiteville, North Carolina says, I've been listening to No Agenda for more than a year now. It's quickly become my favorite show. Sorry it took so long to donate, but please de-douche me now. Yeah, it would be my pleasure. Do you smell what, Barack? Do you smell what? Oh no! I'm douching myself. Here we go. You've been de-douched. And he's in beautiful North Carolina and I attest to the fact that North Carolina is a fantastic place. By the way, that de-douching takes place with a high stream jet powered nozzle. Well, if you get further north in North Carolina, you could use it. I saw the coal calistra

1:06:58 Calistra I think is in North Attleboro. By the way everybody's from the United States this week except one person which I found peculiar. So where's our listeners in Australia? Yeah I got some good Australia news coming up even. North Attleboro, Massachusetts 50 double niggles on the dime some karma for his wife who just had an interview today for a teaching job and a little de-douching he needs it too. You've been de-douched. Okay, that's close now. Boom da boom boom. Joseph Costello, Pittston, Pennsylvania. Not Pittsburgh, Pittston. Which I think is interesting. Another birthday boy. His donation for his 51st birthday. 718, as a physician, I need some karma to survive health care reform. I have a real pet peeve. I'd like to hear your view on it. I can't stand paying $300 or more for the hotel room when I get the little green card. We already talked about it. And who's the one who brought it up? Our doctor friend.

1:07:51 And then finally we do have a Frenchman. Oh, Sacrebleu! Sacrebleu. This is the third, I believe. Tristan Benard, I think. Tristan. B-E-S-N-A-R-D. Tristan Benard. He's from Kremlin in some part of France I don't know of and unfortunately because of my fonts installed on my spreadsheet it's all a mess. I got a mess too. Yeah he's in France. Just discovered Le Show and I like Le Show a lot. Feels like fresh air from the disparity communist France.

1:08:28 You have no idea how politically dumb people are over here. Thank you for politically awakening the population. Yeah, well we do our part. John Lake of course is a knighthood layaway and that's it for this week. Let me do the birthdays because I do want people to have their jingle. They seem to enjoy it. I got a third birthday to mention before. Okay, well you do the third birthday first. Hit it. John and Adam, thanks for a great show. I'm donating today as a birthday donation for my husband. Since we don't want our names used on the air, please simply say happy birthday to Nightmage from his wife Dahania. Even after 17 years, I can't find a better man. Thanks. And then we say happy birthday to Matthew Wilson. His birthday is...

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Mel Gibson, Chantix, Global Awakening

Adam Curry recounts a social gathering where he discussed Monsanto and Mel Gibson with media professionals. He posits that Mel Gibson's recent public outbursts might be a side effect of the smoking-cessation drug Chantix and notes a growing "awakening" among even liberal residents of Southern California regarding corporate shills.

mel gibson· chantix· monsanto· southern california· variety

1:09:17 Actually was yesterday July 24th and our doctor friend who needed some karma for to survive health care reform Turning turn 51 last week on the 18th Joseph Costello. Happy birthday from all your friends here at no agenda and Don Long E Anna done done Niana is where she wanted me to say and by the way we just got a note from Eric it's a he's on either the France Oh you know France where's that it's a it's the ice right right it's right in the middle of Paris isn't it I have no idea you know that's the problem we need to go to Paris oh yes we do we need to go see my friend Johnny dip

1:10:03 It was a French guy. We had a couple and Vanessa Johnny Johnny man, how you doing and Vanessa Vanessa Paradis now I had a couple people over Yesterday and one of them was a vanity fair editor reporter She'd been there for 15 years just recently got laid off and like the third round of layoffs and this other dude I think it's French but made from England, whatever. And all of it and it was really nice to hear these people starting, you know, who I didn't know, they're acquaintances of Mickey, and they just started out of the blue like talking about Monsanto.

1:10:42 and and BP and all of them like wow gee that's kind of you know I've been taught now I've self-taught but also and Mickey has a taser in the back of my neck you know it's like easy on the crackpot shit when I have my friends over cuz you know you got to ease him into it but it was it was so it was it was like it It was so easy because they were ready for it and they're like they know all this stuff. The word is getting out. People are awakening and they weren't even listening to this show. Now they probably are today. They're definitely listening and it's just it's amazing how many people in this extremely liberal, democratic

1:11:22 You know, we love Obama. Republic of Southern California. Oh, Southern California is ridiculous. Yeah, but they're all like, hey, this guy's a douche. He's not doing anything. This is crap. And you know, we've got these shit. This guy even knew about Tom Vilsack, the Secretary of Agriculture being a Monsanto shill. And I was like, wow, this is great. And I just started laying a couple of things on him about the show. Like wow, yeah, this is we've got to listen and by the way, just as a quick side note I told the variety girl who had done a lot of reporting. She's met Mel Gibson many times and And it laid the shantyx rap on her that we think that you know The guy's like on shantyx and and she went oh my god. I can't believe no one has picked up on this didn't know is it complete Nick addict?

1:12:11 Can't get off of it. He's always sneaking smokes when he's when he's you know, he's quitting every week or whatever And I said, I think the guys on shantyx and she said I couldn't of course you knew what shantyx does to you So it was great. So that you know, yeah, there is a thing didn't get the word to him. I Yeah, well yeah, well, okay, France is one of the one of the regional areas where Paris is in the middle of it Not the other way around now so Dvorak org slash na is where you can contribute to the show any donation Matters helps and is highly appreciated. It'll matter a lot more in the near future. You'll find out why

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Mothership Boarding Pass, Aspartame Addiction, UFO Sightings

The hosts promote the "Mothership Boarding Pass" subscription tier, priced at $33.33. They compare the cost to the high price of aspartame-laden chewing gum, which they claim is addictive. The segment also mentions a recent UFO sighting of a blue translucent disc over Malaysia as a reason to secure a spot on the "mothership."

mothership· aspartame· ufo· malaysia· subscriptions

1:12:47 It's important, it's the only way we can do this program and it seems like there's more work. We don't mind it, in fact, enjoy it immensely but it's like I've just more time so consider supporting us with value for value. You can also go to channeldvorak.com slash NA of course our main site noagendershow.com. Now we have a couple of subscription programs and this is really although we love we love the larger amounts because it's it's tiding us over until the monthly subscriptions get up to par which we're probably at a sixth of where we need to be on the on the monthly so we have quite a ways to go but we started a new program which is the the mothership boarding pass and it seems that people are quite interested in this

1:13:36 And it's $33.33 a month. It's a real commitment, but when you think about it and you really think about what you're spending 33 bucks a month on, my daughter spends three times that amount on aspartame chewing gum. We calculated it last night because she's moving out here in September and she's got to do a budget. It's like, well, how much of this crap do you chew a day? And it's aspartame. She's totally hooked on it. She had withdrawal symptoms yesterday. when she didn't have any. Had to go to the gas station to get her some. And she calculates it, that it's a hundred bucks a month. A hundred bucks a month in gum? In aspartame. Oh, in aspartame. Yeah, well, aspartame gum. A hundred bucks, yeah. And kids chew this. You may chew this. Anyone out there. When you do the numbers, you know, you're spending a lot of money on stupid crap. Gum has gotten very expensive. Yes. When did that happen? Well, ever since aspartame, which is highly addictive, is put in almost everything. It's a drug.

1:14:34 Hey, here's a question for you. When did they come out with these gums? And you can see them, you go to the store and the gums are now packaged so it looks like packages of condoms. Yep. With a little lid that flips open, they've got nice little colors on them. But the design work is like condom design. Yes, yeah, I know. I know. I think this must be like the old candy cigarettes kind of a concept. I think you're very close to something there and the whole point is the stuff is now officially addictive. Aspartame has addictive properties and people are getting hooked on it and so you might as well look good, you might as well think you're getting laid. Oh I'm gonna open up my condoms, I'm feeling good when I chew this.

1:15:14 So anyway, the $33.33 a month is, and we're only doing a thousand of them, that'll get you a guaranteed spot. You get a beautiful boarding pass for the mothership when it comes to take us away to safety. And I will point out that just yesterday, just yesterday, and the pictures are beautiful, there was a blue translucent disc spotted over Malaysia and only a couple pictures of it because camera phones didn't work. They actually, you know, people couldn't use their cell phones. But this thing is beautiful. I think the ships are starting to slowly uncloak. So you might want to think about getting your mothership boarding pass rather quickly. And of course the lower the number... Camera phones didn't work. That's hilarious. The lower the number, the earlier you get to board.

1:16:12 And of course you're supporting us, you're supporting the show. We'll be in groups. You could be in the A group. The A group, the B group. We'll have the A group, the B group. No, no, we're gonna do Disney characters. Okay, everyone in Goofy, you can board now. Goofy group. But seriously, we jest, but hey, what if, right? So the Mothership boarding passes, we still have plenty to go around. What do we still have, like 800? More than that probably. No, we have like not we did we have only we have lots left, huh? Okay, okay, we have to keep plugging it that's fine people got a letter about this

1:16:53 letter and they never a stamp on the letter I wish they got an email about I've got one I'd mention something here could you send these emailings out once a month and some guy is sending out all this spam with his comes out once a month is in a reminder out the next week but we sent you an email if you've ever given anything to the shore you even if you're on the mailing list and about you know two-thirds of people open it some people that screw it and even when we did the extra show which people actually paid You know, they did what they, you know, we did an extra show for them specifically and half the people still never even listened to it. I find it weird. What, they didn't listen to the show? No, they never opened the email to get the link to the third show. Really? Yeah.

1:17:37 It's like I said some people just did they they unsubscribe Unsubscribe really great doing by the way when you unsubscribe since I'm just gonna tell people this is a little inside scoop I use MailChimp right now and when you unsubscribe from one of them, you know, you click the thing at the bottom It's always risky. Oh, there's gonna know I really live. No if you click unsubscribe on the on this on these mailings you will never get another piece of mail because mail chimp is paranoid about you know getting blacklisted, spammers or whatever and so You're gonna have trouble getting back on the list. So but it does work. You won't be getting any mailing speaking of male chimps I got an anonymous message, but with two great links about dr. Andrew Wakefield now, you'll recall that we talked about him This is a very controversial guy and whenever we mentioned him then there's huge shit storms of email start to fly and

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Andrew Wakefield, Primate Vaccine Study, Autism

A discussion on Dr. Andrew Wakefield focuses on a new study involving vaccinated primates. The study reportedly shows that vaccinated monkeys exhibit brain maturation issues similar to Alzheimer's, which Wakefield links to autism. The hosts acknowledge the controversy surrounding Wakefield while defending their right to discuss his findings.

andrew wakefield· vaccines· autism· primates· alzheimer's

1:16:53 letter and they never a stamp on the letter I wish they got an email about I've got one I'd mention something here could you send these emailings out once a month and some guy is sending out all this spam with his comes out once a month is in a reminder out the next week but we sent you an email if you've ever given anything to the shore you even if you're on the mailing list and about you know two-thirds of people open it some people that screw it and even when we did the extra show which people actually paid You know, they did what they, you know, we did an extra show for them specifically and half the people still never even listened to it. I find it weird. What, they didn't listen to the show? No, they never opened the email to get the link to the third show. Really? Yeah.

1:17:37 It's like I said some people just did they they unsubscribe Unsubscribe really great doing by the way when you unsubscribe since I'm just gonna tell people this is a little inside scoop I use MailChimp right now and when you unsubscribe from one of them, you know, you click the thing at the bottom It's always risky. Oh, there's gonna know I really live. No if you click unsubscribe on the on this on these mailings you will never get another piece of mail because mail chimp is paranoid about you know getting blacklisted, spammers or whatever and so You're gonna have trouble getting back on the list. So but it does work. You won't be getting any mailing speaking of male chimps I got an anonymous message, but with two great links about dr. Andrew Wakefield now, you'll recall that we talked about him This is a very controversial guy and whenever we mentioned him then there's huge shit storms of email start to fly and

1:18:34 People saying, oh, this guy is a shill for the vaccine company. I can't believe you mentioned him. And you know, then and I get tons of medical students, I might add 90 percent of the doctors or PhDs are PhDs in study who say, you know, you should check your facts about autism. And of course, I and it's like you're Jenny McCarthy, whatever. She she is kind of hot. She's available again. Oh, there's the 1035 right on time. Here it comes. So there's a new study that he has done that was Printed and there's a couple links in the show notes and he's done a study that was not financed by a vaccine company Here's what he did he vaccinated some monkeys some primates and

1:19:28 and tested vaccinated monkeys brain versus an unvaccinated monkeys brain and by the way in the vaccine he did put adjuvant and all of the typical stuff that is in what we are basically giving our kids with the what is it up to 26 or 28 vaccines now and I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I think that we could certainly back off on a couple of things and the brains of the monkeys who were exposed exhibit a clear pattern of Matura National- Matur- Matura Nat- Mature... Mature... This is why I'm not a doctor. They look fucked up. Mature- Hey, these guys, these sleazeballs in the chatroom just kicked me off. You've been banned. Hey, that's right! John C. Warke was kicked.

1:20:19 Oh, someone called you an impersonator. What a bunch of douchebags. Yeah, really. Hold on, let me douchebag him for you. Anyway, I'm done with them. It looks like the chimps brains were affected by the vaccine and they are in decline of maturation. I guess that's the way. Similar to Alzheimer's essentially, which Wakefield is now saying, well, that obviously could be Related to autism which of course is very little is actually known or proven about autism So there does seem to be some effect, and it doesn't seem to be good. Well. You know so guys got I He's got to make a recovery because he got to completely marginalized with all this yeah Yeah, and so you know and we're not fans or anybody people call us Propaganda, that's what I always like when they call us propagandists about stuff like what?

1:21:13 Who would propagandize for what? If we were real propagandists, we wouldn't be begging you for money, now would we? We'd be rich. That's for sure. We'd be paid by the communists. That's right. We'd be on the payroll of Hill and Thumb, the communists. We'd be rubbing shoulders with Noam Chomsky, baby. What are you talking about? You'd be having a beer with him as we speak. Right after the show. Fall asleep. Right after the show, we're having a beer with Noam. Noam Chomsky. I can't believe this tooted-ahead guy kicked me from the chat room. He said that you were an impersonator. How does he know that? Well, because you're never in the chat room. You're never in the chat room. And you're not registered. So what? Yeah, well that's how it goes, brother. News from Gitmo Nation down under. Important news that you need to know. Abby Winters, very famous in Australia, is moving her server from Australia to Amsterdam

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Australian Internet Censorship, Julia Gillard, Climate Change

The hosts report on internet censorship in Australia, noting that 90% of a government document on the subject was redacted to prevent "unnecessary debate." They also discuss Prime Minister Julia Gillard's plans to revisit climate change legislation in 2012.

australia· censorship· julia gillard· climate change· freedom of information

1:22:09 As her operations are no longer welcome there, of course she is a porn star specializing in lesbian and solo chick porn. So abbywinters.com now a server in Amsterdam. Yeah, like that's gonna last forever. But the big news coming out of Gitmo Nation Down Under is actually two pieces of news. Under a Freedom of Information Act, a request was put in and received about the government's plans. Remember they have a new prime minister down there. The government's plans to censor the Internet. 90% of the document was blacked out. Reason? To stop premature unnecessary debate.

1:23:01 And you look at this document, it's like a white sheet of paper with just nothing but black lines all the way, 90%. Like well we just don't want to have an unnecessary debate right now so we feel that you slaves need to shut up. You don't need to see that right now. But how we're gonna shut down the internet later and it's just crazy. And as we already suspected, The new Australian Prime Minister, Gillard, I don't know how you pronounce that down there, Julia, Julia Gillard, pretty much came out and said, hey, you know, that climate change stuff that the guy in Rudd didn't push through, I think we're going to do that in 2012. I'll get right on that. So that's coming for you all. Yeah. Here's an interesting little note I got from John, the recovering lobbyist.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Tour de France, Philippines Earthquakes, USGS Twitter

Brief news items include a theory about a mechanical sabotage in the Tour de France favoring a Spanish rider and a series of three magnitude 7+ earthquakes in the Philippines. The hosts highlight a USGS Twitter post stating that such a sequence of closely spaced quakes is unprecedented.

tour de france· spain· earthquakes· philippines· usgs

1:23:52 Not only did Spain win the World Cup, but they also got the Tour de France The guy in second place was killing the Spaniard until his bike mysteriously malfunctioned It's a bike and the Spaniard against all adequate of the sport took advantage of that and took the lead Really then he says okay Spain's had enough tell the secret society And the Spaniards another from Tony the terrorist who of course drives these people from the airport he says there's so many people from Spain and San Francisco right now they have they're all partying uh-huh I wonder it's like this and they can clearly afford town cars hmm yeah yeah so someone got a payoff they're all partying in San Francisco that's interesting the USGS

1:24:43 Which is the United States was it? Geological society is that what it is service the people who monitor the earthquakes? Yeah, they have a Twitter feed and yeah I don't think I subscribe to but I know they have one so I subscribe to this Twitter feed and This one comes out July 23rd. So that's what Friday 5 11 p.m. And Can't remember a sequence of three closely spaced m7 plus quakes like this before Amazing all deep with weak shaking hmm m7 m7 plus m. What's the m magnitude? Oh? magnitude 7 plus Okay, and what scale and then? we all know but then I go and and look at it and I

1:25:34 Where was it Philippines Philippines Philippines the moral going on in the Philippines you don't know I don't have a theory no, but I thought it was interesting that someone's apparently say that you would presume this to be an official from the Earthquake central for them to say I can't remember this this has never happened before hmm well no of course not is there flicking them flicking the switch again well that's to be a reason I Somebody might know so here's another one that's kind of off-the-wall story that's floated around this was this miners not really something that we need dwell on but apparently Vivek Kundra Oh, yes, mr. App

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Vivek Kundra, Recovery.gov Audit, Cloud Computing

The hosts discuss a GAO audit of Recovery.gov that found the $18 million website used outdated data. They critique Federal CIO Vivek Kundra's "cloud" initiatives and the government's attempt to promote apps through portals like apps.gov.

vivek kundra· recovery.gov· gao· cloud computing· apps.gov

1:26:19 the app man uh... he's got the g a o two retracted sun flattering audit of recovery dot gov really eighteen million dollar website and apparently they're also saying they get chrissy kunder made a big fuss over this saying on all you can do this is your ruining it for us But apparently, in reviewing the recovery.gov dashboard, the G-A-O's auditor found problems with it and the numbers it produced. Bogus! As a near real-time database, it didn't use recent data. It used data that was between two months and two years old. GAO said the old data caused the inaccuracies.

1:27:06 But how did he get the counter GAO's word inaccuracies by saying it implies that the most basic standard of measuring ratings had been set and the results are either accurate or inaccurate because of that binary standard instead there's much more flexibility in the IT dashboards rating system You know they have a USA apps gov. I think yeah, let me just check let me see USA thing it's apps or maybe just apps gov and And they've got, they're like doing iPhone apps. Hold on, let me see. Apps.gov. How come I can't find this? Oh yeah, apps.gov. Here you go. And I'm thinking, why don't these guys pay me to promote their stupid apps? They should do that. I totally... They don't care about it. They're living off the government tit. I totally fall... They don't have to pay you anything. It's money out of their pocket. True.

1:28:03 Welcome to apps.gov. No, that's not the one. I don't think that's the one actually. It says a service provided by the GSA. Right. What's cool about the cloud? Well, it's cloud computing. This is something to do with them because Kundra is a big cloud nut. Yeah, but this isn't the one. There's social media apps. Maybe that's it. Because they had like a whole... I remember seeing a page with a whole bunch of iPhone apps. Oh, look at this. Hmm Google Analytics price free enroll hmm. I you know what I don't know It was a different page. I was looking at apps.gov being price-free the victim an app's being Any browser it's not you to simply download being being app It's free being is the search engine from Microsoft designed to go beyond the ten blue links of today's search to a

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Haiti Reporting Guide, Wired Magazine Satire

A satirical guide from Wired Magazine on how to write about Haiti is discussed. The piece deconstructs media tropes regarding the "poorest country in the Western Hemisphere" and criticizes the roles of Bill Clinton and Wyclef Jean in the country's recovery efforts.

haiti· wired magazine· bill clinton· wyclef jean· journalism

1:29:05 Then does it say anymore do I if I hit enroll does it go here it goes being a specific? I don't want to hear it screw with that Kundra, but begins with it Is this like a promotion for Microsoft if you have course it is pretty funny article and wired Telling journalists, it's like a starter kit for journalists on how to write about Haiti and Ooh. It's very funny. You want to hear a little bit of it? Yeah, give me a bit. For starters, always use the phrase, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your audience must be reminded again of Haiti's exceptional poverty. What? Who sent this out? This is from Wired. This is... No, but where did it come from? From Wired Magazine. This is Wired's own internal document to tell people how to write about Haiti? No, no, no, no. It's a joke written by Ansel, whatever his name is.

1:30:00 And he's he's it's a public document mocking the model that he sees deconstructing. He's deconstructing exactly Your audience must be reminded again of Haiti's exceptional poverty You are always struck by quote the resilience of the Haitian people and it's great because this is exactly how it's always written They will survive no matter how poor they are a two-sentence quote about their misery fitting neatly into the story is all that's needed and On your last visit you always became enchanted with Haiti. You're in love, it's very funny, you're in love with this colorful culture and feel compelled to return. You care so much about these hard-working people. You are there to help them. You are their voice. They cannot speak for themselves. Don't listen if the Haitians speak loudly or become unruly. You might be in danger. Get out of there. Protests are not to be taken seriously.

1:30:53 It just goes on and on and on Many of the little in the show notice. Oh, yeah, it sounds like many of the looters are squatters Point out that Port-au-Prince is overcrowded do not mention large empty plots of green land around the city Of course, it's not possible to explain that occupying US Marines forcibly initiated Haiti's shift from distributed rural growth to centralized governance in the capital city is a great article It sounds like it. I'm going to blog it. Everyone here loves Bill Clinton and Wyclef Jean. There are no dissenting views on this point. Never mind that neither lives here. Never mind that Clinton admitted to destroying Haiti's domestic rice economy in the 90s. Never mind that Wyclef Jean's organization has repeatedly mismanaged relief funds. That's all in the past.

1:31:43 They represent Haiti's best hope for the future. Their voices matter, which means the media must pay close attention to them, which means their voices matter, which means the media must pay... you know, dot, dot, dot. It's good. It's very funny. Very, very funny. So I got a couple, I got a new meme or something. I don't know what they're up to with this, but Fox has decided and I've seen it on a couple of shows. O'Reilly really pushed it the other day. Fox has decided that they are a new media company. Right. O'Reilly can't even do his email address at the end of each show. He keeps messing up the email address. Mr. New Media. They say they're a new media company, so which I found it, you know, there was a big pitch about this. Oh, now all you know, they're now because they were talking about how they handled the Shirley Sherrod thing. And the new media companies had this to say and that is a new media companies like us at Fox.

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly, Shirley Sherrod, New Media Branding

The hosts analyze Bill O'Reilly's coverage of the Shirley Sherrod story. They point out that O'Reilly misread a New York Times quote to claim he is "new media," and they examine his use of neuro-linguistic programming to avoid admitting a mistake while appearing to apologize.

bill o'reilly· shirley sherrod· fox news· new media· new york times

1:32:43 So he reads a quote from the New York Times discussing, apparently it was a kind of an editorial, discussing the situation with that woman from the Department of Agriculture. And I want you to listen to his quote, and then when he's done with the quote, I want you to stop. Okay, okay. He reads from the New York Times. He's reading directly from the New York Times. Okay. New York Times writing about the Shirley Sherrod story and this is a quote from their article. Alright, it's a hard news article by Cheryl Gay Stolberg and Sheila Duncan or Dawson and Brian Stelter.

1:33:24 Mr. Vilsack's late afternoon appearance capped a humiliating and fast-paced few days, not only for the White House but also for the NAACP and the national new media, that's me, especially Fox News Channel and the hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, all of whom played a role in promoting a story about Ms. Schrader. So it's humiliating. Okay, want me to stop there? Yeah. Okay. Now I want you to play the whole thing again, but wait. He's reading from the article. The article says very clearly and his prompter, I don't know what his prompter says but on the screen they show what the quote is. It says the national news media. Oh, but he reads new media and says that's me. Yeah, but the actual words are the national news media should be embarrassed and then they include a bunch of Fox people because they're in the national news media.

1:34:19 So he's misreading that they're actually slamming him. Yeah, yeah, well they're slamming him anyway, but he's misreading this. He puts new media, that's me, he says, which is bullcrap. Then, and now you're going to play the whole thing from the beginning, then he finishes off with that and he mumbles about this and that and the other thing and then he does a little neuro-linguistic number at the end where he says we were, we, you know, we apologize for being, making the mistake. Then he says we were right The sentence should, at the end, he's going to say, we were right and we apologize or something like that. But it should be we were wrong and we apologize. But he said we were right, which kind of puts it in your brain that they were right when they weren't. It's very interesting. So you listen to the whole thing. First, you get this little bull crap about new media, which he was promoting earlier in the show. So obviously Fox is trying to distance itself from what they're calling dead media. In fact,

1:35:15 If you listen to Rush Limbaugh over the past few weeks, you would find that Rush Limbaugh is promoting the agenda that the old media, the classic mainstream media, doesn't exist anymore. It's just a propaganda tool. So Fox has to get themselves out of that quagmire because by limbaugh's definition that would include them i find the whole thing to be this like i'm watching this going all this is this is going to be interesting see how they can make this work they're not gonna make it work but you might as well play this again and then you can hear the uh... neuro linguistic thing at the end which i think was probably just a mistake new york times writing about the uh... surely shroud story this is a quote uh... from their article prize a hard news article by sheryl gay stolberg

1:36:02 and Sheila Duncan or Dawson and Brian Stelter. Mr. Vilsack's late afternoon appearance capped a humiliating and fast-paced few days, not only for the White House but also for the NAACP and the national new media, that's me, especially Fox News Channel and the hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, all of whom played a role in promoting a story about Ms. Schirrod. So it's humiliating. Now I'm just gonna just say this, it wasn't humiliating, New York Times, you pinheads. I just made a mistake, alright? Everybody makes them, you guys make them, you guys make a hundred more than I make, alright? Because you're corrupt and dishonest. I'm honest and not corrupt, okay? So what you said about humiliating, we're not humiliated, we got the story right, alright? We made a mistake in the process, we owned up to it. You never own up to your mistakes because you're corrupt.

1:36:55 Right, you know what I don't care about this guy. We got the story right? Yeah, you should care about him because he's the night he has more numbers than anybody Yeah, and so there's a lot of points a lot of crazy things that take place that you spot here and there if you pull them out Yeah, well, he's he's my easy is mind control. He's he's performing a version of mind control by saying we're great We're not media media. This is just chills me. That's me. I This is by media. The guy's an old hack broadcaster, but God knows he was... When I was a kid I was watching this on the local station. You know how he has his Patriots and Pinhead segment? Yeah. I've got a new segment for him. New segment. New segment here, everybody. At the new media. So, you know they found that 18th century ship under the World Trade Center?

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Niaspan Drug Commercial, 18th Century Ship Discovery

The discovery of an 18th-century ship under the World Trade Center site is linked to Hangar 17 at JFK, where 9/11 debris was stored. This is followed by a critique of a commercial for the cholesterol drug Niaspan, which uses a "brotherly intervention" trope to push pharmaceutical use.

niaspan· pharmaceutical ads· world trade center· hangar 17· cholesterol

1:37:48 Yeah, it about that was kind of interesting right so I guess they built the World Trade Center on top of that so they removed the This wood you know where they moved it to? Hangar 17 and JFK which is the same place they took all the debris from the World Trade Center to hide it to hide it Took it to the same place. Yeah, right. Why yeah, that's the by the way, I Just wonder why please Wonder why wonder why because it has damning evidence in it That's why like all the other steel the other steel that just got shipped off and no one got to analyze. Hmm. Get that recycling going So I knew go ahead I got a new drug commercial though Oh, let's do a drug commercial and if this is the third in a series It's the hat trick

1:38:47 It's the hat trick where you where somebody is excoriating the listener for not you know it's like the son you should have listened dad listen to your doctor yeah you need to take aspirin yeah you should have listened listen shut up stupid slave take your drug take your meds So there's a nut, so this is time it's again an underling, the younger brother telling the bigger brother that he's... which I think there's some societal thing going on here because there's always somebody like it's the kid telling the dad, the wife telling the husband, somebody telling somebody who, or the kids telling the father. But it's always the dad who's a douchebag. It's never a father figure telling a kid. No, because we're little pussified wimps and we're stupid and we need to be dumbed down even more.

1:39:33 So it's a what's it for what's the drug? It's some it's a new another new lower your cholesterol lower your platelets lower your Your arteries does brand-new. I never saw you know that these guys there all their patents have run out They've got no new drugs, so they're just trying to just like hey well you got some chemicals in the back Yeah, I got some powder. Let's Package that shit up. Let's mix it up and tell people they got to take their meds. Hey Pete Yeah, it's me big brother. I'm already liking it. Hey Pete, yeah it's me big brother. Put the remote down and listen. This intervention brought to you by Niasband. So you cut back on the cheeseburgers and stopped using your exercise bike as a coat rack. That's it? You're done?

1:40:23 I don't think so. You told me your doctor's worried about plaque clogging your arteries. What do you call it? Coronary artery disease. That cholesterol medicine he also wants you on? Nyaspan? I looked it up online. Hey Pete, you waiting for an engraved invitation? If you have high cholesterol and coronary artery disease and diet and exercise are not enough, Niaspan along with diet and a bile acid binding resin is FDA approved not only to slow down plaque buildup but to actually help clear some of it away. Pete, As kids, I always looked up to you. Now I'm just trying to look after you. If you cannot afford your medication, call 1-877-NIOSPAN. Niospan is not for everyone, like people with stomach ulcers, liver, or serious bleeding problems. Severe liver damage can occur when switching to Niospan from immediate release niacin. Blood tests are needed to check for liver problems. Tell your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness. This could be a sign of serious side effects.

1:41:20 This risk can increase with statin use. Tell your doctor about alcohol use if you've ever had gout or are diabetic and experience increases in blood sugar. Flushing, a common side effect is warmth, redness, itching or tingling of the skin. Ask your doctor about Niospan. Fight back, fight plaque. Niospan. Yeah, well it's everywhere now. Back in the good old days. Hey, hey, this is your kid brother here. Hey, doofus. This is an intervention. Take the drug. This is an intervention, you stupid. Stupid it's just about bile acid resin there were some there's a two or three things there you couldn't be mumbled this this this great announcer Yeah, he mumbles two or three things niacin and bile acid were taken in conjunction with a resin or something What was the thing about alcohol let something to your head or something? Don't have take alcohol and you're gonna swell up like a balloon. Yeah I don't know we should just we should just make a 10-minute clip. I'll do it for the evergreen show. Oh

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

BP Oil Spill Photoshop, Studio Reflection Theory

The hosts discuss further evidence of BP photoshopping official images, including a helicopter cockpit photo. They also examine a CNN video of the oil leak where a door appears to open in the background, suggesting the "underwater" footage might be filmed in a studio or involve video trickery.

bp· oil spill· photoshop· cnn· deepwater horizon

1:42:20 10-minute clip of just these horrible things that can happen which will probably never actually air because we seem somehow to always be able to pull off two shows a week and and always have a hope that one day will be Supported enough to do three and do it full basically full time because it takes a whole day to prep full of a I've already start working on this show. It takes me two days to get ready for this show and I'm always tagging stuff, but then I have to have a recording clips right right so We must speak briefly about the oil cabal. We actually had some pretty angry people In fact driller Doug who I'm now doubting as a source Called he actually called us propagandists for what? And you know of course now BP yet another

1:43:08 Photoshop job has come out. This was actually I had seen this one many many months ago. I think I it's weird I think they use someone else's photoshopped image. This is of the helicopter and the Helicopter is you know supposedly flying over the over the Gulf and and right in the left-hand window the the which is actually in this case in that particular helicopter I think is co-pilot side interestingly enough and You can see the tower from where the picture was actually taken when the thing was sitting on the ground. They forgot to Photoshop that piece out. That's the problem when you do Photoshop and you're doing this kind of thing, because I can phony up a picture pretty well.

1:43:51 But there's always these little details and it's like, you know, this reflection or some other, the shadowing. One of the main problems, of course, is the focus. Some people don't get that you have to blur things so they look equally blurry. Yeah, the depth of field, all kinds of stuff. But they admit it again. Well, yeah, that was photoshopped. So now they're fair game. I think so. And YouTube, once again a video, this is a great video and we looked at it together at the office and I look at this thing a couple more times, I don't see how it can be a reflection. So they show the, there's a video switching between multiple of these oil cams, which I question because they're all BP branded and who knows. I mean hey, if Stanley Kubrick could direct the moon landing, why can't James Cameron do the BP oil spill, right? And you see a door open in the back. It's like a guy walks into the studio and then he walks right back out like, oops, oh I shouldn't, oh I wonder, that's why this says do not enter on that door.

1:44:52 And you look at it and I'm thinking, John this can't be a reflection. Why would you have a camera on a screen? Why wouldn't you just have a direct feed? And if it's a video trickery job, it's a good one. Yeah, yeah there's a... In fact, I'm gonna give this to the chat room right now. I want them to see it because the chat room They may have already seen it, but I just need some real-time feedback. It's at 28 seconds, the door opens in the background to the right and again at 38 seconds. It's CNN video by the way, so it aired on CNN and I just don't see how it can be

1:45:37 You see bubbles floating by and then all of a sudden to the right of this of the leaking oil thing a door opens and it looks like it's in the background and a guy walks in and he, oops, closes the door and walks back out. What is this? I mean it really looks like a mistake. I can't help it. There's a, I'm going to send you this link which is a link of the helicopter cockpit thing with people that have apparently gone back and re-photoshopped it. Oh yeah, I've seen it. Oh you saw that one? Oh yeah, now it's all over the web. Now people are putting all kinds of crazy shit out there like cattle. Previously on Lost. Very funny. However, there are still some congressional hearings going on.

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Deepwater Horizon Alarms, Inhibited Sensors Testimony

Technician testimony from the Deepwater Horizon hearings reveals that the rig's emergency alarms for fire and gas were "inhibited." The technician explains that the system was silenced to prevent false alarms from waking the crew at night, meaning no audible warning sounded during the actual explosion.

deepwater horizon· alarms· sensors· testimony· bp

1:46:24 And two things I want to play. This is from Friday. This is a technician and he was... well, just listen to what he testifies. He actually testifies that the alarms that are supposed to alert for gas buildup, fire, and some other bad thing, that those alarms were actually purposely disabled. Almost like my browser's freaking out here of course. Why would it actually work? Here's where I come in and complain like you did yeah, literally earlier. Well. I think my browser is crashing here Oh, I'll use a different browser. Yeah, I'm going to let me just you know what Safari on the Mac I think it has like a memory leak or something this new Safari 5

1:47:19 Yeah, because after a while if you leave it open like you know like a normal human being would do on a computer It just crashes and just like slows down and then it stops responding and then the and this flash stuff That's got to go to this flash. It sucks flash video. It's it doesn't work anymore You have this problem you get any spam I've gotten maybe two pieces of spam in the last year I Happened to be when I was just looking right over your shoulder. Mmm. Damn. All right, here we go Let's try this again. Let's see if we can get this This video from this guy this was and I should have you're right. I should have gotten this from C-SPAN I should have pulled the clip But I saw it this morning. And as I said, I had 168 different stories. I'm following up on you haven't you don't have the handy h2 recorder from zoom

1:48:16 No, I don't. What do they cost? They're like 150 bucks or so. They're the best device you'll ever own. Yeah. If you have a little jack, you know, you plug in the back of your... you have a couple extra outputs from that dish network thing you've got, you plug in the jack into it, you stick it in the H2, just leave it there, and then when something comes up, you clip it. Bing! It does it's a nice wave for mp3 file all right well I appreciate you trying to to talk it all the way. It's just not playing anymore. I don't know it's dead Okay, so anyway the guy goes on record and he says the the alarms are disabled But then it works, and it brings me a stupid-ass pre-roll. Let's listen to a dumb commercial

1:48:57 Here this is what you'd have to deal with normally if this show were not sponsored by you Save the children What is this commercial for? Verizon rule the air for did you at any time hear any alarm? that would indicate a general muster? Never. Are you familiar with that alarm that I'm referring to, sir? Yes, sir. Can you please explain to me how that's set up from the Chief Electronic Tech position, your knowledge of how that alarm is set up? The general alarm is set up to inform the entire rig of any of three conditions. Number one, fire. Number two, combustible gas. Number three, toxic gas.

1:49:58 Each one of those alarms... Did you say toxic ass? ...a distinct tone and a distinct visual light. We have light columns throughout the rig, one red. Within the column there's a red, a yellow, and a blue, with the red being fire, yellow being toxic, blue being combustible. So you get an audio tone and a visual tone with every general alarm. Did you get either one of those alarms on the evening of April 20th? No, sir. Do you know why you never got that alarm, sir? Yes, they were bypassed. And how do you know they will bypass her? Because I've physically seen it on the screen. They're actually what's considered inhibited, not bypassed. The correct word is inhibited. Okay, I'm sorry. Can you please explain what inhibited means to me then? I'm sorry. You have four states of alarms. You have a normal operating condition. You have an inhibited condition, which simply means that the sensor is active, it is sensing, and it will alarm

1:51:08 and it will give the information to the computer, but the computer will not trigger an alarm for it. It'll give you the indication, but it won't trigger the actual alarm. And then there's an override condition, which means that the computer will not consider that. Do you know why this was inhibited on the Deepwater Horizon, the system? When I discovered it was inhibited about a year ago, I inquired as to why it was inhibited, and the explanation I got was that they From the OIM down, they did not want people woke up at 3 o'clock in the morning due to false alarms. It was waking us up at night. The alarm was waking us up at night. I was waiting for the punchline and there it is. So Matthew Simmons is a guy who is

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

Matthew Simmons, Gulf Oil Lake, Toxic Rain

Matthew Simmons appears on Bloomberg TV to claim that the BP oil spill is a massive environmental cover-up and that a "deep oil lake" exists on the ocean floor. The segment also touches on reports of toxic rain and dying wildlife in Iowa, potentially linked to the disaster.

matthew simmons· bloomberg· gulf of mexico· toxic rain· bp

1:52:02 What's he... this is a Bloomberg video by the way, and Bloomberg is a pretty respectable news organization. He's the founder of the Ocean Energy Institute. He pulls apart this testimony. Actually one guy decided to plead the fifth. one of these engineers he didn't even want to, he just kept pleading, I don't have the audio obviously, he just kept pleading the fifth wouldn't testify because he didn't want to incriminate himself. Here we are this guy who's just a simple ass engineer. Now listen to what Matthew Simmons on Bloomberg television. Matthew Simmons is founder of the Ocean Energy Institute. He joins us on the phone, and Matt, thanks so much. Always good to talk to you again. I know you were hearing what Lizzie was saying. Some of the information that I'm seeing here in our Bloomberg story, the pressure inside that well is now over 6,800 pounds per square inch since it was sealed on July 15th. Does that give you cause for concern? No, it's a total diversion.

1:52:56 Why do you say that? That's the gas condensate that was trapped in the drilling riser which blew off the wellhead at 10 a.m. Central Standard Time on April 20th. That's a mile long compressed natural gas. What we don't know anything about is the open hole which is caused by the drill bit. When they toss the blowout preventer way out of the hole, and allocation out of the hole, and we're flowing 120,000 day minimum of toxic poison, it's now covered the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. So he's saying, he's giving us some new information there, which I think, which I found very interesting.

1:53:33 Now what was the name of this organization? Yeah, why don't you look that up. It's the Ocean Energy Institute. Yeah, why don't you look that up and I'll just let him talk about these guys who were testifying. So what they're talking about is the biggest environmental cover-up ever. And they knew that that well would, that that riser would finally deplete. Right. And then they could say it's over. And unfortunately we now have killed the Gulf of Mexico. So Matt, you're saying that those pressure readings are coming from inside that wellhead just started down? No, they're the riser pipe. It's attached to the rig floor.

1:54:14 And you're saying that's simply a diversion from actually getting a decent reading down near... Some 5 to 10 miles away is what the NOAA research vessels have now proved is a deep oil lake that's growing by the day. And it's very toxic oil and its gases are very lethal. And basically if we have a hurricane now, we need to evacuate the Gulf Coast. Matt, we have about 30 seconds left. Talk to me about the implications for BP. Is bankruptcy in their future? I love that. It's like the most important information we're ever receiving in the world. And this is Bloomberg.

1:54:50 We only have 30 seconds left. Can you cram that in there? This is what I hate. Which is, by the way, why our show doesn't have these cancellations. Yeah, I hate that. So anyway, here he comes. Oh, listen, when people find out the magnitude of the story, I don't know we can technically clean up the gulf, but it would cost at least a trillion dollars. As you look back, April 20th was when this accident happened. As you look back and reflect on this, what were your concerns about what BP did or did not do leading up to this explosion? Well, first of all, when I woke up, when my wife turned on the television at 7 a.m. on the 21st and I saw this shocking news that one of the

1:55:29 greatest Deepwater rigs ever built by one of the great companies in the industry and ocean Was that was in the middle of this of this terrible fire, and then they said this is a rig fire They're sick. This is it. This is a few on the rig I know that there was 700 gallons of diesel on the rig I said this is a lie to go for mexes on fire Why are they saying this? For two days they kept saying it's a rig fire. When the rig sank, they could no longer call it a rig fire, so they said it's a riser leak. Okay, so why did they say it? Because if they'd said the truth, they're all going to jail. you might be right on that. This guy is basically, I think he's kind of, he sounds like a crackpot. But he's a big peak oil guy. He's a big believer in peak oil, big believer in the club of Rome and we need to have less people in the, you know, everyone's going to die off. So he's one of these populationists. And eugenicists. He has got a lot of interesting background.

1:56:29 He is an investment banker, invests in the oil industry. Some people believe that he's an alarmist just so he can get more money. Well, the punchline for this, but it takes too long to get to it, is, this goes on for like five minutes, says, I'm short BP. I've never shorted a stock in my life. Yeah, that seems unlikely by the way, but he said during June 9th, 2010, interview with Fortune, he claimed BP would have a month before they claimed Chapter 11. That would be July 9th, which we've passed. Which hasn't happened yet. Anyway, I thought it was on KPFK, you know Pacifica apparently quite a bit. I thought it was interesting No, it is interesting, but it's not to be taken too seriously So then I just like to wind this this segment up because I'm tired of it except I think it's funny with the fake BP oil camera and we have no reason to believe him now, right and we can we can tear apart as much as we want

1:57:19 Some YouTube videos out of Iowa, people questioning whether the rain might be toxic. Has it actually blown that far north? And one of our producers sent a note and says, you know, I live north of the area. I'm seeing dead birds everywhere. More than normal dead birds on the street, the grass, the gutter. In Iowa, by the way, all the trees are turning brown in July. Just like dying off and they're seeing the same type of spots that we talked about earlier Along the Gulf Coast some organic farmers. Hopefully somebody will come up with the answer that yeah, yeah, it's jet fuel being jettisoned I'm sure so it's Who knows I I do believe there's a huge cover-up. I'm told I'm totally with that

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Medical Marijuana for Kids, Alcohol vs Pot

The hosts discuss a news story about a mother giving her 12-year-old son medical marijuana to treat emotional turbulence instead of Ritalin. They also critique an LA Times story that argues alcohol is healthier than marijuana, suggesting it is a PR push by the alcohol industry.

marijuana· ritalin· alcohol· la times· california

1:58:09 So, uh, well we're almost done. I have a couple of clips that would be worth listening to if you want to hear. I got three or four subjects here, I don't want to do one. But I got a short one here though, giving kids pot, play it. Jesus Christ, hold on. I wasn't ready for that. Here we go. No to drugs. So why would a mother convince her 12 year old to take marijuana? Sounds outrageous, but she says it's for his own good. Is it? Here's Chris Connolly. The minutes of 12 year old Ryan's day are filled with emotional turbulence and self-destructive behavior. Couples of rage or panic. Self-loathing and lethargy. He is living a nightmare. So the mom gives the kid pot? Yeah, the doctor approved this.

1:59:08 That's a great story. That's great. And this kid is just a hamming it up to no end. It's better than Ritalin. Oh yeah, that's what she says. She says she refused to give her kid Ritalin. Yeah, well I agree with her. Although you might just want... I'm not arguing it, I'm just seeing a lot more marijuana stories coming out. You want to hear a great one from the LA Times? Yeah. And of course this is all because the vote's coming up. As California contemplates legalizing the sale of marijuana, the real war over intoxicants in this country is as always over alcohol. And this story goes on to say that alcohol is good for you. And alcohol is better than pot.

1:59:45 Oh really? What PR agency did they hire? I don't know. This is totally off the wall. Yeah, let me see who wrote the story. Stanton Peel. No link. I don't know what Stanton's been writing. But yeah, alcohol better, weed not so good. Well, there's another jingle we got. We didn't do that train stuff today. Oh, we could if we wanted to. No, no, no. Just to run it down. We're gonna do it on Thursday. Really? Because you need more material because you're gonna be traveling anyway. Okay, so save up the train stories for Thursday. We can do our little thing We I do have one thing we could finish the show off with okay Which is a very interesting Charlie Rose clip if you want to play it. Oh wait a minute. Don't tell me it's Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Bill Press, Progressive Radio Strategy, Pacifica

Left-wing talker Bill Press is heard on C-SPAN discussing a strategy to buy radio stations to counter conservative dominance on the airwaves. The hosts argue that progressive radio fails not due to a lack of ownership, but because the content is inherently boring to audiences compared to high-rated conservative hosts.

bill press· talk radio· progressives· c-span· kgo

2:00:37 Come on is a that's a permanent keeper now. You got more clips than that. Let's play one other good thing All right, we have well if this is one that's kind of interesting. This is actually Educational every once in a while you have to kind of wonder what you know, the the left is all freaked out about you know Right-wing talk radio. Yeah, because it's it's popular. It's popular They got ratings So Bill Press, who is a left-wing talker who can't seem to get a syndication gig but he's on SFM or SR Sirius and XM and he wrote a book called Toxic Talk that everybody hopes sells a lot because it just quotes all these right-wingers saying crazy things. But he gave a little speech with the strategy that's going to be implemented by the left

2:01:25 to counter the entire right-wing talk radio. Oh, they have a strategy. The strategy, I have the strategy on tape. So let's just establish that they don't actually give a crap about the political message, they care about the ratings. That's what they're bummed out about, is that the right-wing talk radio is killing it. Killing it in the ratings. Killing it. Killing it. So they don't give a crap about you or I, they just care about their own paycheck. There are 10 hours of conservative right-wing talk for every one hour of progressive talk. And that does not represent what America is all about. So I talk about that, and I also talk about a couple of fixes. And I'll tell you about those, and then we'll just drink and party. And there are two fixes that I think. One of them is that progressives have to go out and do what conservatives did, which is put up the money, buy radio stations, build a radio network,

2:02:15 and provide an alternative to people who are really looking for other voices on the radio. And I got news for you. David Brock and Eric Burns and I have adopted this as our next project. And we're working on it right now. We're putting a business plan together. So all of you rich liberals who are watching C-SPAN tonight, I want you to know we're coming after your ass. And we want your money on the line. They have a plan, John! They've got a plan! Wait a minute, let me get this straight. What right-wingers went out and bought a bunch of radio stations? These stations have always existed, and they haven't been bought or sold by anyone. These big conglomerates have bought them. Now let's take a look at our local two stations owned by the same company, KGO.

2:03:06 and KSFO. KGO is a left-wing talk station, left and middle-wing talk station, and they bought KSFO and the same management, including the guy who's the program director, who is an extreme left-wing nut, well to a point, started ksfo and people that with with the with the money makers the rush limbaugh's and everybody in between rush limbaugh was on k uh... can be our earlier in his group would be dashi bump leo laporte off the air and they put russian which i still think is amusing and uh...

2:03:43 But these guys didn't show up on these stations because some right-wingers went out and bought a bunch of radio stations. In fact, the radio station that's the right-wing station in San Francisco is owned by a left-winger, but they can't make money on the other stuff. So doesn't this prove our point that Fox is also controlled by the Democrats? Yeah, everybody's controlled by the Democrats. Yeah, well that is our point. But the thing is these guys are living in a dream world. If they're gonna go and buy up a bunch of radio stations and people are gonna flock to them. As somebody always told me once, if you wanted to listen to left-wing, real, true, genuine, left-wing, radical, progressive radio, you've got two or three of these Pacifica stations on the West Coast.

2:04:28 that have been broadcasting for decades. When I was a kid, we had these stations and nobody listens to them. Because they're boring. They're really boring and they got somebody beating a drum and talking about Indian folklore and poetry. They have a poetry reading. I mean, that's what it deteriorates to. I've been reading up on that that journal list that you were telling me about that's kind of funny. It is it's hilarious Here's and and I guess that woman is now gonna. You know sue the Obama camp for FEC violations and just like it's funny because they they they were misusing acorns like ah

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Marmots and Climate Change, Mel Gibson, Outro

The show concludes with a report from Nature magazine claiming marmots are thriving due to climate change. The hosts also mention a rumor that Mel Gibson was working on an Illuminati conspiracy film before his recent scandals. They end with a final plea for donations and the "Mothership Boarding Pass."

marmots· nature magazine· mel gibson· illuminati· knighthood

2:05:13 Whatever, but it is funny. It's the whole thing is fun The whole thing is funny because all fake the only thing that appears to be kind of real is stuff like what we're doing We just pull it pulling it apart for you and we love doing it show you can get you to think properly the whole idea is to get you the listeners of our show to not think this are like us but to think for themselves yes and to question things such as the final two stories I shall do A young woman died of a heart attack while using her sex toy, and she was found in bed with a vibrator by her side and a pornographic film playing on her laptop. But more importantly, John. A groundbreaking study published in Nature magazine, which is one of the world's foremost scientific journals,

2:06:09 has published the results of a decade-long research project funded by the University of Kansas. As it turns out, those mountain ronids known as marmots... Marmots? Yeah. Marmots. ...are growing larger and healthier and more plentiful due to climate change. And they look pretty scary. Yeah, but you know it seems to me that the marmots could have just moved south and had the same effect. Yeah, but John, the science is in. Science! Science! It's in Nature Magazine. Monster marmots. When's the movie coming out? Killer... the attack of the killer marmots. Well, it's like somebody pointed out the movie Salt.

2:06:55 was you know exactly the same model of story that you have with the Russian spies. And so this person said, you know every time I'm starting to see the facts that you see these news articles and stories breaking out of the blue for no apparent reason and then a movie comes out shortly thereafter that happens to have the same storyline. Coincidence pointing that out to the point where you don't even point it out much anymore because it's just so ridiculous You know whether it's a scam Puff piece on 60 minutes or or I'm still remember the Mothman's You know the variety reporter who was here she told me that Mel Gibson has actually been working on a movie about conspiracies and the Illuminati

2:07:41 And that may have a lot to do with the character assassination he's gone through recently. But he already did conspiracy theories. No, no, not conspiracy theory, but this is like, this is really about the stuff that I'm into. Oh, the nut bullshit. Yeah, that kind of shit. Thank you, John. I love you. Despite all that and I'd love to love you a lot more, but we need some support Dvorak org slash na please consider signing up for one of our monthly programs as well as perhaps a donation to become an executive producer or even a night which a donation of a thousand dollars or more Will get you including the coveted ring. We're net we now have manufacturer and design is being decided upon so I've been bitching long enough I guess we're getting over. Yes, I

2:08:27 And of course our mothership boarding pass and if you're signed up to our email list you will receive another notice about that. We still have plenty to go around. If you're not signed up for the list, the list is easy to sign up for. It's a link on most of the postings we do. Yes, I'll make sure it's in today's show notes. And with that, I am Adam Curry, former Soviet spy, coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. It's going to be beautiful today. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun still hasn't crept out, but it will, I hope. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday for early morning service right here on NO Agenda.