Episode 211 · Thursday, 24 June 2010

The Botox Bot

A high-stakes military reshuffle and a global push for carbon taxation collide with the psychological side effects of cosmetic surgery and the rise of cultural totalitarianism.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 211

About this episode

General David Petraeus replaces General Stanley McChrystal as commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan following a controversial Rolling Stone profile by Michael Hastings. The sudden leadership transition serves as a pivot point for the Obama administration to reassert civilian control while escalating military involvement in a conflict increasingly compared to the Vietnam War. This reshuffling occurs as the White House navigates the fallout of the Pat Tillman investigation and shifting strategies against the Taliban.

President Barack Obama utilizes the Deepwater Horizon disaster to advocate for cap-and-trade legislation, framing the Gulf oil spill as a catalyst for green energy taxation. Meanwhile, Michael Bromwich takes the helm of the reorganized Minerals Management Service as a federal judge overturns the deepwater drilling moratorium. In international politics, Julia Gillard deposes Kevin Rudd as Australian Prime Minister over failed carbon policies, and Vice President Joe Biden promotes the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) by linking intellectual property theft to public safety. British journalist Melanie Phillips warns of cultural totalitarianism, arguing that Western society has abandoned objective truth in favor of ideological orthodoxy.

Scientific studies from Barnard College suggest that Botox injections may dampen emotional intelligence by disrupting facial feedback loops, a theory the hosts apply to the frozen expressions of Nancy Pelosi. Between reports of genetically engineered mosquitoes with glowing eyes and Jon Voight’s claims regarding the President’s private religious identity, the program explores the fringes of the G20 summit and the World Cup. The broadcast remains entirely listener-supported through the Value for Value model, championed by executive producers Sir Stephen Pelsmacher and Renee Schwartz.


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CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

Global Warming Skepticism and Chemtrail Debate

The hosts open the program from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley, noting unusually cold summer weather. A debate ensues regarding the causes of shifting climate patterns, contrasting the theory of global warming against the concept of chemtrails. One host expresses frustration over listener feedback regarding his skepticism of chemtrail theories.

global warming· chemtrails· silicon valley· weather patterns· standard oil

00:01 Well, I think Apple and the Builder Burgers are the same operation. Not standing in line for a phone from China Instead coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center and get more nation west in the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning, I'm Adam Curry and the weather has turned sour now that it's summer in northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C DeBord Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Sour you say? It's cold out, yeah it's cloudy cold crappy this is typical. Yeah I'm sorry to hear that. You know normally up here we get a kind of an Indian summer before an after the real summer which is always cold right we didn't get them with the before part we had a couple hot days but there wasn't like no last year we had a whole month all right well you know why that is don't you you know why that is global warming No chemtrails

01:03 Yeah You have no idea how many people are sending me, you know Like I can't believe John won't buy into it. He concerns me by the way really This nurse like that. Oh yeah. Oh, no this is all but I think that the majority of our listeners believing ya Great idea we need to take a boat. This is bullcrap man. You sound like such a shill So let's shill for what? What am I selling, standard oil? No. A shill to shut me up so people don't realize what is actually happening to them and they are being made sick. Maybe for the second half of the show You know you're a little soft for some reason. Maybe you should pump me up a little bit. Hold on. I can boost my own gain if you want me too. No no no...I figured it out

01:52 It was a minor. So you don't start to show over? No, no, no! You were only... the only thing that was happening is through the processing when I would talk then you would get pushed down and now your back up to par You know we can't have that. So there's way too much news! Dude, you're not kidding I was up and actually got up at three o'clock this morning just to do some more and i went to bed like 1030 had been prepping all day yesterdays it is just it's incredible so we shouldn't be laborer too many stories as opposed because i get now the new stuff but i have also the

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

General Stanley McChrystal and Rolling Stone Article Preview

A preliminary discussion focuses on the controversy surrounding General Stanley McChrystal following a profile in Rolling Stone magazine. The timing of the article's release and its appearance in the New York Post are scrutinized as potential indicators of a coordinated media hit. The hosts prepare to analyze whether the General's departure was a planned exit from the conflict in Afghanistan.

stanley mcchrystal· rolling stone· afghanistan· new york post· military leadership

02:29 the uh... you know some light stuff that's that's a little not news but it's kinda interesting meanwhile i guess we where should we start i think mcchrystal well so we started with them do we have any producers are any executive producer of our own except sorry about that no that was not okay because i don't want to go on the air you downloading something now yeah sorry john and saying that we should probably just a little news and then we'll go right to the executive producers after first segment Yeah, but if we get into it... We can't do McChrystal because then we'll be talking for half an hour. You think it's gonna be that much? Okay hold on a second. It might be and you know I'm very curious to hear your take on it. I mean have some thoughts but maybe we should... I don't have any uh... Hold on a second let me get the emailer up

03:20 I don't think i have any more thoughts about it than you do necessarily. Unless you have some...I mean, I do have one thesis that that I'll present after hear yours. I was gonna make you go first! Well you know what? Can we both agree then on one thing perhaps right out of the gate this was a hit that was set up no matter which way in it works the timing seeing New York Post Have the article, you know on that a day before literally a day before it was published. I mean everyone had this Set up thing that's fine but let's first get to our executive producers Bastard okay Gee John I almost forgot could you by the way? I'm in disagreement with this theory that you're coming up with already which would make it more interesting to the listeners and

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Karma Requests

The show acknowledges its primary financial supporters, naming Sir Stephen Pelsmacher, Renee Schwartz, and Hugh Wilson as executive producers. Several donors request "karma" for personal situations, including job interviews and difficult living arrangements. The segment details the "Value for Value" model and encourages listeners to propagate the show's formula.

stephen pelsmacher· renee schwartz· hugh wilson· stefan springer· karma

04:18 We have two executive producers, actually let's make it three. Oh nice! Three executive producers and one to three associates we had a good week Wow okay good See what a little apology will get you, huh? Let's go to the top of the list to our old pal Sir Stephen. Oh boy! Who I guess he says was on vacation or doing something so he hasn't been around much but Stephen Pelsmacher is out of Belgium gave us 35634 He actually says the equivalent sum of two tickets on the Eurostar passenger train from Brussels to London round trip in cattle class

04:56 yes we have to stand the whole time you can and where are adult diapers uh... you know it's a that's around trip that's how much it costs by the way ladies and gentlemen yeah for its further train from london to pair or actually from my guess is going from where on in the process of rusty avalanche there should probably more little more expensive maybe fifty bucks thank you very much as if they had thank you sir steven it's nice to have you back and really appreciate the The support we've been missing you for sure Renee Schwartz, sir. So it's right yeah of Harlem Netherlands Highland Harlem Harlem Yeah, you think Harlem in New York and New Amsterdam was named after the city? Yeah Do you think I mean, you know the Dutch used to the Dutch used to own Manhattan You know, I know talk about blowing it a stifler sound right? Oh

05:53 Didn't he sell it? $333.33 Oh, this must be his... Is he on to a second knighthood then? But this executive producership is on behalf of Reinout Hildebrandt who turns 33 this Friday and is chronically unemployed I hope this credit gets him a job fast Okay Is that right? He's chronically unemployed? I guess Doesn't sound good Maybe there's vaccine for that chronically unemployed. Well, Reinoud Hildebrandt we congratulate you on your birthday tomorrow and hope that you get some good karma coming your way and then the... Yeah I have a note for you by the way. Then we have Hugh Wilson from Ottawa Ontario Canada $300 no nothing to say about it

06:44 Joseph and then as our associate executive producers, and I don't know we should maybe push him. I don't know It's sketchy because he's five dollars less than Hugh Wilson with Joseph Branson Spring Texas $295.90 So wait a minute so Joe is an executive producer? No He'll be associate executive okay put him right at the top of the list okay And then Stefan Springer from Garland Texas uh... two hundred dollars a john and i might need some karma for an interview the large computer security company on wednesday if they get the job but let donating another six hundred four knighthood fine joy this show is its only place to get my news a sad state of affairs for the united states i was going away because gonna hold onto this for uh... for the donations segment of the show but since you've had two people uh... clocking in for karma i'd die if you'll compelled to read a note from john perkin

07:38 Who says, well Adam I'd like to register a formal complaint regarding no agenda karma. I've been a listener since show number one and have two $5 month subscriptions we're very appreciative of that John Recently i've been told to move out by my total bitch housemate she's a Polish princess I failed my UK driving test this month My birthday is on Wednesday I need karma Sounds like he's got plenty. Yeah, just the wrong kind might not know I mean maybe the right kind of maybe who knows yeah exactly It's actually here's this woman is terrible. She just called her what do you know? What do you thought she was a bitch

08:14 And it's possible that he failed. This may all be good You know you make an excellent point John he just maybe viewing it wrong yeah I love it just sometimes even the buzzkill can just be so incredibly optimistic, I love it All those things sound good to me So we want to thank Sir Steven Pelsmacher's sermon. Wait a minute, we got one more... Are you kidding me? Another one?! One more associate! Holy Moly sorry Joseph J-A-B-R Jabber, Jabir, Jabbir or Jabber I'm not sure he doesn't say it. I think it would be Jabber Uh Carrollton Texas We've got another tex.. We have three out of the six people from Texas Thank You Texas Hello Crackpot and Buzzkill my name is Lordveer Okay I make video game uh

09:01 Griffer, griever? That means aimbot author programmer blogger Obviously he's a coder. I asked my friend to donate for me so i can keep my quasi anonymity Sorry Jabir Yeah really I am long time fan of Noah Jendricks since episode one and been following Dvorak since Silicon Spin blah blah blah So it's Lord Fear is... You want a monthly blogging contest How does that work? I don't know He got some cash and gave us some of it. Also, some of the listeners douchebags who can't donate can at least say... Can at least help this way which is by winning contests? And sending us money! Yeah yeah get out there win some contest Anyway Game Riot is apparently with Checkout

09:48 and he's got some directing to his blog. We'll put a link. So Sir Steven Pelsmacher, Sir Rene Schwartz, Hugh Wilson thank you for being our executive producers for episode 211 of the No Agenda Show as you know it is an official credit that can go onto your resume A special thanks to associate executive producers Joseph Ransom, Stefan Springer and Lord Veer. Yes you can go and win some blogging contests or you can do the following... Go out propagate the formula because it really does work! Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth. Okay everybody! Get ready to say it along if you know we're all part of the same group.

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

General McChrystal Resignation and Petraeus Appointment

The analysis of General Stanley McChrystal's resignation suggests the Rolling Stone article by Michael Hastings served as a convenient exit strategy for a general frustrated with Afghan war policy. General David Petraeus is named as the successor, with the hosts characterizing him as a more compliant figure for the Obama administration. The discussion touches on McChrystal's past involvement in the Pat Tillman friendly-fire cover-up.

stanley mcchrystal· david petraeus· barack obama· rolling stone· michael hastings

10:41 So as we get into the McChrystal thing, I think we can begin with a couple of light clips to kind of make this little easier to deal with since i know you were going to talk too much. Okay well I actually have a couple of clips from the president's announcement that I thought was interesting... These are more kind of generalized things and I think they're be fun to listen to because it brings out the craziness of the whole event and Jon Stewart is in the clips obviously so that makes them funny. So I think this would be a light way to go if you start with Jon Stewart on access Okay, does it need to set up? Nope

11:21 As you can imagine, the story raised a lot of questions for our country's finest reporters. Does Rolling Stone magazine usually get this kind of access? A lot people wondering how you got such remarkable access to the general and his staff It was crazy that this guy had that much access I mean it wasn't as if you had spent months with them gaining their trust This incredible wall-to-wall access You were almost brought into the inner circle What on earth was he thinking giving an interview to Rolling Stone Approximately 11 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, the American news media finally realized they kind of suck.

12:03 So I thought, you know that was kind of an interesting thing about the fact that this Rolling Stone article ended up with McChrystal having to quit. Before you railroad over... This is an important point and this is where I started off with saying this to me was clearly a set-up hit organized possibly even with McChrystal's knowledge Now, clip number two I just want to play just because it kind of... and by the way when we talk about those executive producers we forgot to mention you can do that yourself by going to Dvorak.org slash NA So this is a clip of a woman interviewing the writer from Rolling Stone but she's..this is on NPR and Stewart has the best comeback for this idiotic question this woman asks But the real shock to reporters was what this Rolling Stone journalist would be giving up

12:57 You obviously were not worried about access in the future. I can't imagine you're going to get it Yeah, i don't need it anymore! I got this amazing story So um... This guy uh his name is um What's his name again? I don't know Michael Hastings you're on your own who is Michael Hastings who is a personal friend of Rachel Maddow as she disclosed everyone this guy was on everywhere He was on CNN multiple times yesterday. He was on Rachel Maddow, of course the only channel he wasn't on was Fox. I think they were perturbed that they were left out of the loop He's a former Newsweek

13:42 Writer, you know Time magazine. It's so obvious that the guy is is connected and he was I think really given this story and I really do believe John that McChrystal was in the loop because Crystal actually goes out Perfectly, I mean the guy yeah You know, he'll be a multi-millionaire He can write any book he wants to get you know, he set up for life if he can be He can be a special consultant, correspondent. He can do a million different things if he retires. I think he totally was in on this and knew it was happening and when you think about it really makes sense because you and I were both under the impression that something had to happen we have to move out of Afghanistan because we're losing And now the whole deck has been reshuffled

14:36 There's a whole new game on and to put General Petraeus in, wow this guy is amazing. I love this guy he's better than a yes man he just crawls up your ass. Mr. Metal? Yeah Mr. Metal! He just crawls up your ass and does whatever you tell him too So i think it's more sinister and I think Gates isn't on the deal Duh And I think it went like this, I think McChrystal got this job. He didn't really want it he goes to Afghanistan and he doesn't like it over there. He talks to Gates and says hey! This stinks...I want out of here well you just can't quit What can we do? Well let's see if they're just annoying him maybe they'll take you out First he does a 60 minute special that we both saw

15:24 right which is talks about his about his you know he only get four hours sleep and running seven miles in the morning all of us and he seemed like it dick and there's no reason for him to do come on sixty minutes ago an interview like that that got some attention too but then he leaked at memo which was last year and i last year bright which got him in a hot water and Obama had to meet him in Denmark or Copenhagen, or...which is in Denmark. Or someplace in his plane and there was a picture of McChrystal sitting there on his fatigues and Obama reading him the right act I figured that was the end of it but McChrystal says to Gates They didn't fire me and I like leaked a confidential mail. What am I supposed to do here? And Gates says, don't worry about it! We got this kid from Rolling Stone

16:10 He's just gonna trash it, don't worry. This'll get you out for sure." They put this kid in for no apparent reason. Some embed some Rolling Stone writer with the McChrystal crowd who apparently just buddies up with everybody and he gets all the dirt from everybody and then they did put together a hit piece A soft one but it hit peace nonetheless is actually very good article to read It was very entertaining and uh... in the next thing you know he's called the carpet fired or were forced to resign i think he is going to retire by the way is making you know it was who needs aggravation by the way this is a guy who was behind that tillman affair which everybody like yes not what yes the pat tillman where he helped cover up the fact that pat tillman former nfl star was actually back hillbilly

16:57 friendly fire right and they bring all the stuff up in the article may also bring up the fact that this guy was a goof off and at West Point he was a goof ball. He was always passed out, he was always in detention in the area as they call it having to walk around. Yeah and he graduated 285 out of 700 or something I'll say this though John and this is why its perfect set-up The guy had a lot of respect from the troops The guy actually if you're really at war not just fake you know protect the poppy fields and uh... install the pipeline deal if your really at war this is the kind of guy you want me on the kind of guy who will go out on patrol kicks ass you know he's been he is there a few when you were in battle with the ball was real it wasn't for the real world this is the kinda commander you want

17:45 And I think that was probably, you're right his frustration is like what the hell am i doing here? I'm not allowed to do anything. My guys can't shoot anybody. I have to give him medals for restraint remember we talked about that on the show Right and that was brought up in the article too and he didn't actually... He was not actually quoted himself as saying any of these things That were so out-of-line it was all other people So he gets away and this has already been subtly introduced by the media that of course I'd say mainly on board with this, they've received the talking points. They know what to say Everybody was in on this! It just feels so obvious to me. I don't think the media was in on it at all A lot of it was, oh totally They were completely suckered into the story Well is... What's the difference? What's the difference? There IS a difference Being tricked into doing something and being IN ON IT To me is a huge difference

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

Obama Address on Military Command and Afghan Strategy

President Barack Obama's public statement regarding the change in military leadership is deconstructed, focusing on his emphasis on civilian control of the military. The hosts criticize the speech as "gobbledygook" that fails to define clear objectives regarding Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Concerns are raised about a potential "Vietnam-style" escalation under the new command.

barack obama· afghanistan· al-qaeda· taliban· civilian control

18:37 Okay, I think Stuart made the point. You know these guys are they're befuddled by everything So let me just run through a couple short clips of the president's announcement yesterday So now and and the words are very interesting when you hear them so first of all it was only like an eight-minute statement I'd like to point out that Rolling Stone magazine has done some absolutely amazing articles on Goldman Sachs, on the financial meltdown and the administration completely ignores that. I mean we're not going to look at an article like that in Rolling Stone oh no, hey you know that can't be true! That's just Rolling Stone magazine but when it comes to McChrystal then of course you know we gotta accept his resignation or fire him which one is it? Well the president explains The conduct represented in the recently published article does not meet the standard that should be set by a commanding general

19:28 Which I'd like to see what the standards are by the way. You know, what is the standard of a guy who's meant to go out and kill people? Yeah you gotta think that guys gonna be a little off-the-wall, a little Team America. Fuck yeah! It undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system and it erodes the trust that's necessary for our team to work together. So I like this, it erodes the trust for our team but he's not talking about our troops he is talking about the political team about the civilians running the show and i thought that was an interesting there was no need really from them put in his speech to say hey what that guy saying is messing us up here in Washington Not quite sure why thats in there. We must achieve our objectives in Afghanistan

20:15 So what exactly are those objectives in Afghanistan? Well, the president laid it out quite clearly and said he has two responsibilities. Two main responsibilities! First I have a responsibility to the extraordinary men and women who are fighting this war and to the democratic institutions that i've been elected to lead Do you feel that should be first John or maybe does he have a responsibility for people of America first or is just to the troops first Well, that's a good question. I don't know really what the second one? We'll get to in a moment. I've got no greater honor than serving as commander-in-chief of our men and women in uniform and it is my duty to ensure that no diversion complicates the vital mission they are carrying out That includes adherence to a strict code of conduct The strength and greatness of our military is rooted in fact this code applies equally to newly enlisted privates

21:16 and of the general officer who commands them. So again, I'd like to see the strict code of conduct and what that means no one's questioning that of course That allows us to come together as one That is part of the reason why America has the finest fighting force in history of the world FUCK YEAH! It is also true... By the way so that was TRUE! That was true it is also true Democracy depends upon institutions better stronger than individuals That includes strict adherence to the military chain of command and... Isn't that almost a contradiction? It's like it's about the whole team and not just about one guy, so it's okay. And this felt contradictory to me. ...for civilian control over that chain of command. That's why as commander-in-chief I believe this decision is necessary to hold ourselves... Now he... This is where he says this decision So he's now saying he fired him

22:14 Instead of I accepted his resignation. He's basically saying this decision to get this guy out of here was necessary accountable two standards that are at the core of our democracy second Second, I have a responsibility to do what is whatever is necessary To succeed in Afghanistan and in our broader effort to disrupt dismantle and defeat al-qaeda Okay So now we know what the mission is it is to disrupt dismantle and and something else defeat defeat the Al Qaeda okay I get it most people think there's like 20 Al-Qaeda in this is what so great I believe that this mission demands unity of effort across our alliance and across my national security team

23:02 And I don't think we can sustain that unity of effort. He's talking about NATO, the alliance. Yeah there are no they're all bailing out. Of course they are! They're full crap and achieve our objectives in Afghanistan without making this change That too has guided my decision So his decision right so that's his responsibilities not to you and I John Not to the American public No it is to the success of the mission in Afghanistan What exactly are we doing again? We're getting rid of those 20 guys, those 20 uh... Well not- The President answers the question. Make no mistake we have- John! make i want to make a little making mistakes no mistake we have a clear goal here it is we are going to break the taliban's momentum okay well you're gonna be all over where they come into the big time telling him and this is what so great work at so confused now but he'll help me out do it again that we are going to build afghan capacity okay capacity or go to relentlessly apply pressure on al-qaeda and its leadership

24:03 strengthening the ability of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to do the same. You can take that to the bank! I'm confused, first we were gonna kill Al-Qaeda then we're gonna pressure them then we're gonna like stop the Taliban huh? You know, he doesn't really say anything in this speech. He just kind of throws words out there it's funny I wonder how many of his speeches are kinda you know if we deconstructed them word by word they're just kind of gobbledygook that's kinda pieced together in some meaningless way. Well it would be nice... It sounds good because you know, it's almost as though his style of delivery is the medium is the message, the McLuhan idea where it's not really what he's saying, it's just a word that says make no mistake! Oh shit I don't want to make a mistake. You know these kind of throws in these words like that? He has that whole Martin Luther King cadence from time to time

25:00 and you know this is without the tremolo yeah is it tremolo or tremolo I don't know so not a musician so anyway i love the fact that uh Petraeus is being brought in who of course has a chip implanted now we know why the guy fainted the other day they were ready but he pushed the button by like oh shit no no what do we need to get your elbow off the button we need the guy yes hang in there this guy is amazing he's been shot He's had yet. Yeah during a training exercise, and it was Bill Frist who operated on him which I think was interesting I think it's senator frist oh yeah right? Yeah is that interesting yeah well This is barely a pretty good doctor well he implanted the device of course we've got the Manchurian candidate now It doesn't not fit together nicely then he broke his pelvis

25:50 during a training exercise. So the guy is, you know when he's had heart problems... I don't know why! Talk about a guy who should have retired. And then he's lugging around all that dead weight with all those medals and i'd like to remind you that they still have not closed the investigation from 2007 of these thousands of weapons that disappeared in Iraq under his watch AKs and all kinds of handguns armored vehicles, plastic explosives army uniforms that were all just disappeared. I mean this guy is if you want a guy to do whatever you tell him to, Petraeus is the one!

26:33 Petraeus is the guy and I think that you know McChrystal he just, I have to say... He's a patriot. I have the sense that he didn't want to be there from the beginning No but i think McChrystal is actually a true patriot in the sense of a military man and you know I come from a long line of military people Do you notice that he looks like Tigger from Winnie The Pooh? No it didn't cross my mind Yeah he does No, I missed that one. So um so i think uh you know that we're now we're in for the long haul the real long haul You know it's...I think the next steps will be there's going to be this period of assessment that Petraeus is gonna say We need 40 000 more troops

27:21 You know, now we can get it. The president as you know also has a 30 billion dollar outstanding request with Congress for more funds for the war I think this is up for debate I still believe that there's a fight right now whether we should just get out because i think thats what congress wants or are going to continue this in some Vietnam style where they just keep ramping up until some Dick Nixon shows up and gets us out And he's dead So um Fascinating though, fascinating turn of events and I love how it distracted from a million other things going on. That was pretty much my favorite part of it just so many other things happened

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

Right-Wing Media Reaction to McChrystal Firing

The response from conservative commentators and politicians like Jeb Bush is examined, noting their defense of General McChrystal despite his public insubordination. The hosts argue that right-wing media figures are primarily motivated by opposition to the Obama administration rather than the merits of the military situation.

rush limbaugh· sean hannity· michael savage· jeb bush· rolling stone

28:07 And by the way, I was listening to a lot of right-wing radio during this little event. You have to wonder about the sincerity and actually the actual desires of the right wing talk show guys insofar as the future of the country is concerned because they all took that perspective and i can't think of any maybe michael savage took a different point of view but they all to the perspective that this is a terrible thing to do obama should be no suggests she just suck it up and let me crystal continue in his great work on your dvd at jim bush came out to jeb bush's like oh what a baby what a baby such a crybaby are everyone's jumping on that for sure they're dumping on a friends but you did so these people sincerely like this guy who was a psycho it's not the s

28:55 you know he doesn't want to be there apparently, he's bitching and moaning constantly. He is a nut job if anything else and so they get rid of him but the right wingers think they should keep him why? Because it would just screw up administration even more. They're not interested in this in the goodwill of the country that for sure the future of the country all these right wingers should think about their...they will not Whatever Obama does is going to be bad. And they don't care about the country, they just care about getting Obama. Or maybe just the fact that they weren't in on the game and they didn't get The Rolling Stone article before CNN, MSNBC, everybody else. Rush Limbaugh's not gonna get The Rolling Stone article. That's my point. Sean Hannity is not going to get The Rolling Stone... I mean come on these guys are just sit there like we do So meanwhile a lot of really interesting stuff happened And i have uh couple clips and things starting to come together because never let a crisis go to waste as you know was the mantra of Rambo Emanuel

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

Minerals Management Service Reorganization and Michael Bromwich

Following the Deepwater Horizon disaster, the Minerals Management Service (MMS) undergoes a rebranding and reorganization under new director Michael Bromwich. Senator Dianne Feinstein questions the agency's culture during a hearing, while the hosts argue that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar should be held legally responsible. Bromwich's background as a lawyer in the Iran-Contra and Pan Am 103 investigations is highlighted.

minerals management service· michael bromwich· ken salazar· dianne feinstein· deepwater horizon

29:57 in the cabinet. So we have a switch, little switcheroo took place in the management of minerals or the mineral management services bureau and there was a hearing and reorganization and renaming of the MMS and there was a new guy... That's way to do it! Rename It! And they put Michael R Bromowich in charge I'll talk about him in a second but there was hearing yesterday with Feinstein leading the proceedings and very interesting something you and I always say John which came up right at the beginning of this hearing, which nobody is really taking the truly responsible party to task by law. Listen to this

30:45 In addition to reviewing the reprogramming, our purpose here is to focus on the performance of the Minerals Management Service. To try and understand what went wrong, to hear from the Secretary the details of his proposed reorganization and why he believes this proposal is the right way to go." The key question for me, underlying everything that's discussed here today is this. How does the proposed reorganization a changing of the organizational chart change the culture of the Minerals and Management Service to protect the Gulf of Mexico and the people who live and work there?

31:29 I want to be clear. Okay, you know some importance coming when someone says that she wants to be clear listen up! That by law the Department of Interior is responsible for ensuring the safe and clean production of oil and gas on the outer continental shelf so i just want to stop there and there's a little bit more this clip about 30 seconds By law...by law the Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar is responsible By law, he broke the law. No one else and this responsibility cannot be delegated BP Transocean Halliburton and the rest of the companies operating in the Gulf and elsewhere are required to obey the law abide by the decisions of the Interior Department And clean up any mess they create

32:23 But they are not responsible for setting the safety standards, promulgating the rules and ensuring full compliance with those rules. Ultimately at virtually every juncture leading up to the Deepwater Horizon explosion and fire The Minerals Management Service failed in its duty So how does the Secretary of Interior get a free pass? How does that work? It's just brushed aside like, well you know we know there was corruption. That is normal in government and you can't blame this on the previous administration because we've been in office now for a good year and half and by law the responsibility lies with the Secretary of Interior. This guy should resign!

33:11 Yeah, you know that's the funny thing. Nobody ever takes it... nobody ever falls on their sword on this administration they quit here and there you know they sneak out but when something actually comes up where they should be fired Yeah, and I don't find it acceptable that... Except for the crystal. Yeah! I don't find it acceptable that we just say oh well that's just how government works Bullshit It should not just work that way this guys head should be handed on a platter to the public And now so we have all this We have a complete renaming Mr Bromowich who was brought in Let me give you quick little backgrounder on Mr Bromowich This guy is complete jabroni

33:53 He, first of all he's a lawyer. He is not a manager, he is a lawyer. He was involved through some investigations the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing well gee that worked out well we caught all the bad guys there didn't we? You know he basically the guy that is brought in whenever something needs to be covered up and he's brought on you know on the other side of so called on the people side but he's a hugely successful lawyer and he's gonna go fix it well maybe not. Senator Feinstein on the need to change the culture issue I think that is the key and i think its combination of leadership, I think its combined with making clear what the mission of the agency is in unmistakable terms I think it's a matter of making clear that

34:47 cozy relationships will not be tolerated that people for example who are doing inspections and seem to pull back and not be as aggressive as they might be that information gets to me. The thing is he's not answering the question, he just saying oh this is how we're gonna do it uh we need to show leadership everybody! Leadership! We have to say it's not going to be acceptable and oh and he's so scary you're gonna kick your ass And I find out about people who are not doing their job aggressively and that there are consequences for that. Now, I've already tried to start sending that message but it's not going to happen overnight. I will need to visit the field installations... Oh you're gonna take a few road trips!

35:29 Exactly point in person. I think creating this unit which I announced this morning will send that message But it will take some instances of my making clear that I mean business for the culture to start to change Why don't you start by firing Ken Salazar? That would be a really good start because then people would get worried This is what the president should be doing, is firing someone who's really responsible. Instead we just get more of the same under a new name and oh I'm gonna go send the message let me be clear hear me now believe me later. Bromwich by the way prosecuted Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair which of course he was successful at and everything was overturned due to

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

BP Oil Spill as Catalyst for Green Energy Policy

President Obama characterizes the Gulf oil spill as a "wake-up call" to transition the United States toward a clean energy future. The hosts interpret this rhetoric as a political maneuver to revive cap-and-trade legislation before the August recess. They argue the policy serves as a hidden form of taxation that will significantly increase electricity costs for citizens.

bp oil spill· cap and trade· clean energy· taxation· energy strategy

36:13 number of technicalities. Yeah, technicality was part of the scheme? Of course it was! So this guy is a shill now what is this all good for why is this happening what is the whole setup well the president said it in right after his cabinet meeting and little impromptu press conference which is where he's most dangerous because without teleprompter. And finally we talked about energy In the context of the oil spill, as I said last week during my Oval Office address this has to be a wake-up call to the country that we... It's a wake up call John. And what is it a wake up call for? We are prepared and ready to move forward

36:56 Exactly it's a new energy strategy. Oh, he could takes it much further though John desperately want but For which there's been insufficient political will yeah that's right That's why you can't let this crisis go to waste has been insufficient political Will we need a new energy strategy the BP oil spill is just perfect It is time for us to move to a clean energy future. I think the American people understand that it is a jobs creator, that it is a national security enhancer, that it is what's needed environmentally

37:34 and we have the opportunity to build on actions that have already been taken in the House of Representatives. The Senate has an opportunity before the August recess in the elections... We can do it before the elections! We can do it, we can do it! ...stand up and move forward on something that could have enormous positive consequences for generations to come. Positive consequences for generations to come as your electricity bill goes up tenfold? Yeah, because it's essentially a form of taxation because they can't bring themselves just saying look we're going to raise taxes even though we lied about it

38:11 Because you know anyone making over $250,000 their taxes will go down. Yeah your taxes will go down but somehow these other things will go up and most of that money would be shoved over to the government as cap-and-trade nonsense. It's a scam! I love you darling it's a total scam total setup and it makes so much sense here is this sequence of events No one believes in the, well not no one but the global warming thing fell apart. It fell apart partially because of the emails and I think the economic crisis people are like yeah whatever whatever whatever yeah you know and it's cold by the way it's shitty. It is cold air! It's shitty in San Francisco so I don't see the global...you know what? You don't see people obviously... Well weather is not climate Don't but yea they don't

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

Al Gore Sexual Assault Allegations and Media Sidelining

The National Enquirer reports on sexual assault allegations against Al Gore dating back to 2006. The hosts suggest this story may be a strategic move to sideline Gore as a public face for climate change advocacy while the administration pursues new energy taxes. They also question why the administration declined international assistance for the oil spill cleanup.

al gore· national enquirer· climate change· sexual assault· media suppression

38:55 what i was not going to try the whole denialist thing okay you know what so uh... al gore we've got to get him out of the picture um... hit let's have a divorce and national inquiry this week it comes out and says that uh... he sexually assaulted a woman in two thousand six and so you know we moved him off to the side so and weak as we don't want people who are shut up on this now they're having affair with them assumes but that was there that that was the uh... policy assault yeah and we know that the national inquirer is of course always well-informed by the CIA so I'm going to give the National Enquirer the benefit of the doubt on this one. Oh, i'm absolutely convinced that they pull this off constantly So Al Gore has moved out that kind of shuts him down because you know you got to shut the guy up right and so he's not gonna come out and talk about

39:42 climate change anymore. No, we'll just do it a different way and then we come to all of the evidence that is pointing towards this administration not actually wanting to shut down this oil leak 13 different countries offered help. No, no under the Jones Act you can't have ships that aren't under American flag off our coasts sorry we don't want your help get Monation lowlands with your expertise in oil spills. No we don't want any of that. Nope nope just keep it all away its got to continue its just gotta keep on going now we have... Now by the way stop for a second

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Judicial Overturn of Deepwater Drilling Moratorium

A federal judge overturns the administration's moratorium on deepwater drilling, ruling that the government misrepresented the consensus of scientists. The hosts defend the judge's decision while criticizing media reports that focused on his financial investments in oil companies. They reiterate that the Department of the Interior failed in its regulatory duties prior to the spill.

deepwater horizon· drilling moratorium· martin feldman· ken salazar· vanguard funds

40:23 Have you noticed, you know these cameras that are supposedly on this thing? Yeah. Have you noticed there's like 10 different looks at me to say how many cameras do they have down there? Oh yeah. Different looks, different color balance. It's like sometimes it's coming out of a pipe. Sometimes it's coming out of a crack. Sometimes just by sometimes is black. Sometimes as Brown and sometimes has lit up in his skin. This is coming this way and that way if this is I've never seen so many of this one leak. I've never seen so many different. It's like one of those women who always look different every time they wear different kinds of makeup. And the fact that it is available! You know, what is this? This is BP's big transparency move? It's like B-roll. And now the President... B-roll is what it is. Yeah we have to call a B-roll. Now the President is even calling the escrow account for $20 billion dollars he's calling in a fund so they moved that right away and discussed this on Sunday

41:19 You know when you put 20 billion dollars into escrow, the first thing you do is go and borrow 40 billion dollars. It's perfect! It's a perfect financial trick it so easy these guys they're getting off real easy Not a problem. Then we have the this is another great piece of media assassination We have a judge overturning the drilling moratorium Yeah, and the judge of course has a bunch of stock in BP or some associated companies right but did anyone actually read what he wrote? Probably not it's a 20. It's a 22 page document What did you get out of it? What I got out what I get out of it Is that the government

42:06 The administration enlisted seven scientists and these scientists all said, you know what? It's not a good idea to shut down all the drilling. It is actually an unsafe practice to do that at this juncture. You should not...and there is no reason to shut down all deep water drilling. Deep water being categorized as over 500 feet But the moratorium that the administration put out, and this is in the document. This is in the judge's overruling He says that the administration lied! It said it was not true. That's no what these guys said they said exactly the opposite therefore I'm overturning it

42:49 So, and then of course we have to have a hit job. Well everybody is all in the Vanguard funds that's... All of the congressmen and senators well not all but everyone has all their shit vested in the Vanguard funds go look up Vanguard they invest in all kinds of oil stuff Obama has three million dollars in there I don't know where he got it but he's got three million dollars as he disclosed himself He did very well for our community organizations Yeah not bad at all And so the judge says... I think i'm going to go into that. Yeah, how can you go wrong? and the judge says i'm sorry but you know i have to overturn this because as you said the science is in exactly the opposite from what these guys said

43:30 So I think the ruling was correct. I'm sure the ruling was correct, but then we go out and hit the guy right? It's like oh you've got $15,000 invested and everyone falls for it Oh this judge is horrible he's part of the oil cabal And i've got idiots here in Los Angeles standing outside the BP station with signs made of plastic If they were probably professionally done Possibly. You know, like oh BP kills! BP kills! Don't get your gas here! BP kills! No Ken Salazar kills he was responsible He's the guy okay I think you made your point Thank you So there is a blogger out there that says that he has been tracking Obama and i'm actually kind of subscribing to this new theory That Obama like McChrystal wants out

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

Speculation on Obama Resignation and Rahm Emanuel Exit

The hosts discuss a theory that President Obama may be overwhelmed and looking for an excuse to leave office after one term. Concurrently, rumors circulate regarding Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's potential departure to run for Mayor of Chicago. The ongoing trial of Rod Blagojevich is cited as a complicating factor for Emanuel due to his ties to Chicago politics.

barack obama· rahm emanuel· rod blagojevich· 2012 election· david petraeus

44:24 He says, he's been watching Obama and he says, this is...Obama is in over his head. This is a miserable job They're all over him. He can't like you said even when this last little speech doesn't make any real sense when he talks anymore He still pontificates. I'm wondering whether Obama's going to bail, especially if they take a bath in the next election in 2012 and turn it over and say look he has two daughters of their perfect age as an excuse to quit. Say look I got these two daughters, I did what I did, I got the country back on track

45:00 yeah and i don't know and i did the hard stuff i did the tough job i'd idea they have a lifting it has been some more time my family he gets a full pension and and uh... security guards for the rest of his life in all kinds of other real benefits really have to be nobody has to be in there for the whole june is because this may start a i'm surprised that term well and then portray us of course is isn't already once again being whispered as the perfect candidate. God, you know that right? Of all the people in the world we'd want as president that guy he'd be wearing all his medals! Yeah exactly like Chavez He would be perfect. He would be like a little dictator and it would be complete

45:41 So I'm going to keep dogging this idea and one of the things that really got me was after some of these thoughts got into the public domain, Rush Limbaugh went off the deep end again saying that just the opposite is true. He's a power-mad fiend! He wants to stay in office forever maybe three terms but...I don't know..I mean this is a lot This is worse than the worst period of the Bush administration because, you know, GW was like oblivious to most things. And his dad was worse he didn't know what a checkout thing was at a grocery store but Obama's probably pretty clued into the fact that both the left and right are attacking him constantly and it has gotta get on his nerves

46:31 Yeah, that can grow. And who knows man? Maybe the whole setup was just bring this guy in we'll have him do all the unpopular stuff and he'll make it sound pretty and then we will bring in the general when were good and ready for him The general there's no doubt that they're that that there's a scheme of foot, you know There's a lot of talk now about Rahm Emanuel quitting running for president. No That would be mint wouldn't it? Know about him quitting Yeah, I know that did that's actually in the news quite a bit There's a yes, he's gonna quit, you know after the election is gonna not gonna quit after elections up This is like this ongoing debate

47:17 And the timing of course is interesting now we have the Blagojevich trial which is starting to crank up and of course that's all about Chicago mafia style politics. And you know Rahm Emanuel has his fingerprints all over that so he's got to get out, and I think he will get out. It'll be under the guise of well I couldn't get anything done and there'll be another hit towards Obama yeah i think you're on to something with that who's blogger the ted that's following our united jade road down some different sheet of paper so i can say but you can look it up over your nose obama one quick you find in google when and what other around cuz i know you got a lot of really good clips there was one other little thing that happened out i was just trying to pay as much attention as possible uh... two other news that was taking place knowing full fully well that when you we have a huge huge crisis ease at all kinds of stuff happens

CHAPTER 12 / 27 Discussion

Joe Biden on ACTA and Intellectual Property Enforcement

Vice President Joe Biden delivers a speech linking intellectual property theft to public safety, claiming that counterfeit goods like tires and Kevlar vests "kill." The hosts critique this as a justification for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). They highlight a controversial provision regarding "imminent infringement" that could criminalize the intent to download copyrighted material.

joe biden· acta· copyright· piracy· imminent infringement

48:09 Vice President Biden has set it up, he's teed it up for ACTA to come in and take place. ACTA of course is this international copyright trade agreement which is so secret that we weren't even allowed to know about it and he is setting the tone baby! So a report was made about copyright infringement and guess what John? Counterfeiting kills, baby. It kills John! Counterfeiting KILLS! And obviously piracy hurts it hurts our economy to the tune of billions some argue tens of billions and dollars in lost private sector profit and government revenue it hurts our health and safety the health and safe that's where the FDA commissioners here impart but we don't usually think about this way

48:57 It hurts the health and safety of our citizens. We need to protect our citizens from unsafe products, counterfeit auto parts, semiconductors used in medical devices that aren't quality tested, counterfeit pharmaceuticals that put lives at risk. Whether we're talking about fake drugs that hurt instead of help a patient or knock off car tires that fall apart 65 miles an hour causing Apparently tires are falling apart at 65 miles an hour because they're fake. They're not real. They're not tires. They're not real tires. My tires made out of cardboard! Knock off car tires that fall apart in sixty-five miles an hour causing injury and death

49:45 counterfeits kill counterfeit counterfeits kill the reason why that they counterfeit they don't know how to do it in the first place and so we're talking about some Gucci bags and shit man but counterfeits killed John they It also, to state the obvious, it stifles creativity. Perhaps our greatest export is America's creative impulse, our ability to move people around the world... Our greatest export is things that kill people? What are you talking about? Our greatest export is weaponry, jets guns stuff that kills people. Be honest Joe! Creativity works it's been working and has had a dramatic impact on cultures, has had a dramatic impact on our interest and criminals are working every day to steal from us and again its billions of dollars Billions?

50:43 We used to by the way, the General Accounting Office has disputed that literally link in the show notes of no agenda show calm There is no evidence that it is costing the creative industry billions of dollars. I'm sorry that nuts and there's no chance no chance in this town Piracy is theft. Here, listen to me. Clean and simple it's nothing but theft It's smash-and-grab no different than the guy walking down you know Fifth Avenue and smashing the window of Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window It seems a lot easier to catch the guy doing it to Tiffany's how does that work? It's no different John! It's no different than smash-and-grab

51:27 This is theft. Clear and simple, and theft in every culture people would acknowledge should be punished. And so intellectual property is no different we need a true government-wide effort and that's what's being... Alright, I'm sick of listening to this bullcrap But I just want you know what he's gonna do It'll just take a second. Well, he has that he has a strategy as a plan it's about whether or not you put a Kevlar vest on a guy in Kandahar or cop in the middle of one of our major cities weather it works And so we uh... Apparently the government's buying counterfeit Kevlar vests. Because the government has no quality control program, is that why? Yeah exactly! Wait listen here So we have Kevlar vests that are counterfeit what are we gonna do about it?! So in other words you're buying crap from China and then blaming everybody for stealing records Yes exactly yes smashing ground Whose fault is this?

52:25 Well, it's gonna be your guys music. It's his fault. Yes. The government is buying crap from China. Yes, we'll make it real clear We're there's the word I'll make a real clear Alright slaves here comes the information you need to know going after people were gone after the websites We're gonna go after those folks who in fact Sell us things that in fact have the effect of putting the lives of Americans in jeopardy. Yeah beautiful What website is this he's going after? The Kevlar vest website that they buy the Kevlar vests from apparently. They're going after people! And they never test anything I guess... You don't buy a bunch of vests and then take one out and shoot at it We're going after people, dammit! We're gonna go after the websites! We need to go back with the contractor and you know... We're going after the websites

53:14 Let's go after some websites, shut down the internet. I sent you another clip in the email that i'd like to run Yeah can I just finish up this with a small quote from the ACTA bill which will go before congress later this year? Sure The bill would make P2P or BitTorrent client development A criminal offense if the distributed software was used for infringement Why Why would the implementer, or the implementation solve? Why don't they just make the internet itself a criminal offense. Well we're getting close here's how it works It also implements a provisioning called imminent infringement

53:57 Which imminent infringement, remember this phrase. It allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense if you for instance were googling for torrent name of movie Avatar, avatar, avatar and torrent right now. Imminent infringement yeah imminent infringement you can find that listed in the show notes at nojittershow.com Yeah well I'm glad somebody got around to it And then i love it when I see in the chat room like oh Adam's a BP apologist No no people You just can't let the government do shit and blame it on everybody else The government is evil

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

Melanie Phillips on Cultural Totalitarianism and Climate

British journalist Melanie Phillips is introduced via her book, "The World Turned Upside Down," which argues that Western society has abandoned objective truth for subjective ideology. Clips from her speeches address her skepticism of man-made global warming and her theory of "cultural totalitarianism." She posits that dissenters of the liberal agenda are systematically demonized.

melanie phillips· the world turned upside down· global warming· totalitarianism· objective truth

54:44 Evil I tell you, they're thugs. They're the gang all governments They're all gangs and thugs we just don't sit down and take it So i have a an alert for the people in the No agenda book club. Oh, right new book good good Good And I wanted to go in as soon as possible well Melanie Phillips The World Turned Upside Down and this book explains kind of essentially what our show is all about uh... very interesting out for a while has and i think it's is yes that our group the number of months but uh... and she was on c-span recently in a like an hour squishes upon dress british woman who is against the columnist for the daily mb i think you would today they may have a really more crazy ones but didn't even know

55:34 She's got a whole bunch of interesting thoughts and it's kind of summarized I want to play a couple clips And I want to save one for the end of the show because it's just too long she'd be I could do more Clips with her, but her she's typical British forever they can make a point what But let's play two clips from her to give you an idea, but let's play the one that what this book is all about. It's a totalitarianism clip and you can just listen to her thesis which is essentially that all these kind of liberal agenda operations are part of us... they're the denialists they don't want to talk about anything or rationalize anything as she brings this up with

56:14 very terse commentary on global warming. Actually, why don't you play that first and you get an idea of where she's coming from? You know, I can follow her on X issue but on Y that is the reality. She's wrong." Well let's have a discussion about that so i'll start with perhaps the most contentious of all which is man-made global warming and I will put my cards on the table and I will say there is little if anything to support the idea that something extraordinary and unprecedented it is happening to the climate For example, it was warmer thousands of years ago. For example the link between carbon dioxide and temperature is not straightforward for example the seas are not rising, the ice is not shrinking, the polar bears are not vanishing and Al Gore did not deserve his Nobel Prize

57:09 There's been no significant warming since 1995, despite the fact that we're told that if carbon dioxide increases the temperature will increase. Carbon dioxide has increased the temperature has not increased and the most important thing of all is at the argument that climate which is possibly the most complex system that there is The idea that it A can be predicted and B can be altered by changing one component is absurd I think you better watch out. I'm gonna go marry this chick I think she got you go if you have he has this thesis that the world turned upside down with it with the books about and she says that do what would now was a lot with the lie is the truth in which is a lie and then anyone who to pushes back against the yeah this up did into intelligentsia as of concept of things with their very rigid checklist anyone who says anything against that is shouted down there's no real discussion that takes place anymore and it's essentially what

58:10 we do on this show, which is one of the reasons we do the show because were part of the people that are complaining about this situation. The two of us and occasionally you run into a lot...the denialists or the ones who are actually on the other side denying reality they don't want to deal with it and it kind of boils down to this other clip which is the one on totalitarianism Objective truth has been replaced by subjective opinion and emotion across the board. There has been a receptiveness to intellectual and moral inversion, and a credulity to propaganda i.e lies no dissent is allowed those who defend

58:51 reality against ideology are demonized, those who defend religion are consigned to outer darkness as imbeciles or insane. People who take these views are called right-wing extra right wing ultra right wing bigots phobes of every kind and the more they uphold reality and truth and common sense against their opposites the more right-wing they become it is an astonishing fact If religious totalitarianism was ruled by the church and political totalitarianism was ruled by the general will through both fascism and communism, I would suggest this is cultural totalitarianism or rule by the doctrine...the sacred doctrine of the subjective individual. And Mickey and I had a dinner on Wednesday night no Tuesday night with Robert Green who's the author

CHAPTER 14 / 27 Discussion

Robert Greene and the Intelligentsia Social Dynamics

A personal anecdote describes a dinner with author Robert Greene, who recently collaborated with rapper 50 Cent. The host recounts Greene's shocked reaction when global warming skepticism was mentioned, illustrating the rigid political expectations within intellectual circles. Greene's work on military strategy is contrasted with his personal progressive leanings.

robert greene· 50 cent· 33 strategies of war· global warming· republican

59:48 Was it the Art of Seduction? Which was a huge selling book. So he's, you would call him John an intellectual and yeah but this guy is you know... He comes to dinner and has a book of Jung with him just to give you an idea right I mean like please yeah! But he's researching a new book and he just wrote a book with 50 Cent which is kind of interesting book You know the rapper 50 Cent and that which he must have done for the money I'm sure. And, you know so he and Mickey had known each other for a while and they were... The guy is very socially awkward uh... Which is just the way he is I think and even said yeah don't usually get out of house at all when writing a book and thanks inviting me in

1:00:29 And then he was trying to kind of figure out who I was and and I yeah, and you know I said well You know and talked about the show. And so it sounds great. You know hate mainstream media So yeah now we deconstruct it and that's what we do and say well give me an example. I said well for instance a global warming I went right into it and he looked at me any cocked his head he went oh Are you Republican? I said, no. I'm not a Republican! The whole Democrat-Republican thing is a scam as well and he's like... And I could see his brain go haywire. You know it was like ehhhhhhhhh.... Yeah because that type of person... A very nice guy by the way. I'm sure he's a nice guy most people are nice people but anyway the point is that when certain members of intelligentsia as Melanie Phillips would put it

1:01:19 are bitching and moaning about the mainstream media, they're bitching and moaning the way Janine Garofalo... we played the clip last week or some time ago. They're bitching about it about the same way Janine Garofalos is bitching about it which that is not left-wing and progressive enough Meanwhile the guy wrote the book 33 Strategies of War which I'm reading right now It is almost the whole right-wing stance on life. Very interesting! Yeah, I think a lot of these guys could be flipped. Oh well, I hope so...I'm gonna work on them anyway of course we know where you got this from John. Good job my friend and then we will put that in the book club or

CHAPTER 15 / 27 Discussion

Anti-Semitism in the Netherlands and Paul McCartney Comments

The discussion turns to rising anti-semitism in Europe following the Turkish flotilla incident. A proposal by Dutch MP Ahmed Marcouch to use "bait Jews" to catch attackers is met with disbelief. Additionally, Paul McCartney is criticized for a comment equating climate change skepticism with Holocaust denial.

anti-semitism· netherlands· ahmed marcouch· paul mccartney· holocaust denial

1:02:12 Whoever maintains no agenda book club and also the end of show we have a longer clip by her which discusses the fact that all these you know from environmentalism into everything else It's kind of a religion. She perceives all these things as religion Which is the global warming thing is obviously? And she says the fact that you can't complain about any of these things or even discuss them in a rational way She also basically says there are whole things There's a lot of Jew hatred involved she says we can't deal with islamism because we can say anything bad about it because of the nature of this political correctness religion so funny you mentioned that there was a story from get more nation lowlands uh... cuz there's a lot of anti-semitism cropping up um... because of the uh... israel uh... turkish flotilla attack or confrontation who knows what it was and you know

1:03:08 and a member of parliament of the left-wing Labour Party, Ahmed Markush has said you know what we've got to do something about this anti-semitism so this guy I would presume is a Muslim. And he says we have to put in Jews as bait Is it we have to put people dressed up as Jews and then wait for... And then wait for people to come and throw rocks at them, I guess. I don't know! I was just like what? What the hell is this?! Yeah it's called Lokyot which would be a bait Jew

1:03:48 Oh brother. The fact that this is even being discussed like this, it's just beyond all belief. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda! Imagine all the people who could do that? Oh yeah that'd be fab! There you have it Paul McCartney a global warming... friend of global warming asking you to support the show Yeah, Paul McCartney I guess came out with the commentary that anyone who's a denialist about global warming or even skeptical or even questions it is the same as someone who denies the Holocaust. Yep! Right on Paul. Yeah yeah there's no...there's uh..that makes sense Anyway we got a few people to thank this week for helping us out Carly Graham in I guess is Brassel Queensland Australia

CHAPTER 16 / 27 Discussion

Listener Donations and Open Source Media Model

The hosts read more listener letters, including one from a woman who donated after recovering lost rings. They emphasize that the show's lack of traditional sponsors allows for total editorial freedom. The segment concludes with a discussion on the show's availability via torrents and the growth of the "No Agenda" producer ecosystem.

donations· amsterdam· open source· torrents· value for value

1:04:47 Give us $100 saying hi John and Adam I'm fulfilling a karma deal. I made to donate $100 if my wedding and engagement rings were recovered after I left them by the sink at work Not sure if it's possible make a deal either way to help me feel better while they were missing I have them back that's amazing most people like pray to God or If only the plane doesn't crash I'll donate to no agenda. I will donate to the new agenda show if my rings appear. There they are! People are actually donating to get rings, John. I just have to remind you every show... Another person i want to thank is David Roberts from Norristown Pennsylvania 6240 for our 624 Show very creative

1:05:33 Last year he donated $6.24 multiple times, this year 6240 hopefully with enough karma the next donation will be 624 in the morning! Nice nice nice. Max L Roberts, yes we're working on the rings. Max L Roberts Crown Point Indiana 55 to double eagles on the dime big fan of the show I'd like to call out Chris Thompson Thomas as being a douchebag. Douchebag! Because he's too afraid to listen to this show Yeah I can understand It's scary. I think this show is scary. It is The hardest thing is when the show was... The day before the show and the day after show, which of course with two shows a week pretty much covers the week. I get into a very different mood and I become very cynical And it's very difficult to live with me, i'm sure

1:06:27 David Peterson, Cincinnati Ohio double niggles on the dime longtime listener that's been a douchebag for not donating requesting a de-douching You've been D douched I can't imagine somebody listening to this show the first time in here and all this like what is going on? These guys. These jabronis. What's happening here? C T Meyer Mount Gambier South where is that? I'm gonna block it. That sounds like South Africa No, South Australia. That's really a $50 and $2 in four cents for some reason and Jeffrey Lennon Gales Ferry Connecticut Is a night hood layaway so he's still on board So do we want to thank everybody who? Donated to keep the show going up where this is listener supported really listener support It's not bogus listener supported where you have a bunch of

1:07:21 people, you know government grants asking for more government grants getting grants from companies and doing commercials or doing a bunch of commercials for codes and things like that. We think it would ruin the flow of the show we think it would waste your time And this is a better feedback mechanism. Quite honestly we would never get any sponsors And we wouldn't get any sponsors, let's face it. If you listen to the content of this show that... As somebody pointed out one of the show haters pointed out You guys could never get any sponsors anyway and he is right Yeah correct! That is the whole point So thats why we have to do it this way I mean all shows should be done listener supported because people... They should support what.. We don't... I think the commercialization of information Is out of control

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CHAPTER 17 / 27 Discussion

World Cup Match Fixing and US Soccer Hype

The hype surrounding the US Men's National Team's progress in the World Cup is dismissed as disproportionate to their performance. Author Declan Hill is featured in a clip discussing his book "The Fix," which alleges widespread match-fixing by Asian criminal syndicates in international soccer. The hosts suggest that major sports tournaments are often used as distractions from political issues.

world cup· soccer· declan hill· match fixing· yakuza

1:10:32 There's a lot of stuff. There's quite an ecosystem around this and that is the plus side of our model, is do what you want! Go ahead take it all please get the message out there and hopefully people will continue to support the show So check it out devorek.org slash NA Now I want...there's another thing that has been going on this week that I wanted to discuss for just a minute Another distraction nothing to see here. Oh boy, I'm sorry. I'm a little late you'll just let's play this okay? I Thought her just snoring so if you're gonna do that thanks So what it's this it's the soccer World Cup thing oh They made this huge deal out of the United States gate dude. They have these different little divisions these groups there's four teams

1:11:27 Teams in a group and usually they're you know, the United States England Algeria and I don't know it's a Slovakia. I think in the group that the United States managed to get out of for the first time in 30 years They've not gotten out of this group They've never gotten past the first round so they got out of passed The first rounds is the biggest deal in sports everyone was talking about it. I'm looking at it They've won one crummy game Can I just say point out one thing? Since when? Since when have we decided to say, uh, nil. This is bugging the crap out of me. What should I say what? Nil! So of course it's 1-0. It's one zero and everyone saying oh was one nil, one nil, that's what the Brits have always said. No of course that that's what you say uh in the British say that but now all sudden America in a sports game instead of 101 zip one nothing one nada one slap your ass down own you! Its one nil yes well America won one nil one nil we like to shut up this is me yeah

1:12:28 So anyway, so here's the deal. We won one crummy game and had two ties... One nil! ...and this is a massive big deal Yes! And by the way the one game they won was 1 to zip. One nil! One nil!! One nil. So they win the one game, one nil and this is like the biggest breakthrough in the history of the world The United States is moving on to the next round This is ridiculous This is as stupid as sport in the world i found this art everybody and other they got it we have an international audience and i'm a dumb american who thinks that football is you know something other than what it is but well just think i don't think it's a big deal for some team to win one crummy game i have an interesting little clip for your by the way us uh... did venezuela arms argentine is going to kill everybody anyway so um... you know my my theory is that uh... the only honest sport is non-professional sport

1:13:24 and I feel that... You know, the US may even get all the way to the finals because of course the game is rigged. No, the finals are obviously going to be Argentina and Brazil that looks like the finals. Well, the game is rigged for that. The game is rigged and there's a book out called The Fix by Declan Hill and he was interviewed in Gitmo Nation East recently, and I want you to listen to a little piece of this interview. The Fix by Declan Hill is one the most controversial and inflammatory books ever published on the subject of soccer. Delving into the seedy underbelly of the sport it brings to surface the reality that match fixing and corruption are rife in world soccer from low-level amateur leagues to the World Cup

1:14:08 Declan Hill joins me in studio now. Declan, the big question that everyone's asking right now is with the World Cup only a few weeks away will this World Cup be fixed? Look, I can't and I refuse to speculate. The stuff that I talk about is so controversial that I don't go in into speculation but here's the unfortunate guarantee that i can give you 100%. There will be the same Asian match fixers that have gone to the under 17, the under 20, the Women's World Cup, the Olympic Soccer Tournament and past World Cups for last twenty years. I guarantee they will be there. I guarantee they'll be approaching dozens of players on different teams. They'll be approaching their referees

1:14:46 Will those guys take their money? I don't know. I really hope they do not but I know that they'll be there and I know that FIFA has done nothing Effective to stop them from being there now why is that now an opportunity at UEFA as he's spoken to person you've spoken to him You've hosted commissions over there Why is Michelle Puccini so progressive set bladder for example in FIFA still once again sitting back and in a big house in Switzerland and saying there's no problem here. Look, I genuinely don't know and I'm not trying to be disingenuous. I know the allegations of corruption in and around FIFA, but what I write about isn't that. What I'm writing about is about a separate group of Asian match-fixing criminals that have such chutzpah! These guys go round giving out their business cards like the Women's World Cup in 2007 that I report upon in my book they were giving out their passports to the players It's not these guys are secret

1:15:48 You know when I met Blasher February 2000. So this is like a five-minute interview, I just wanted to play that. Basically saying the Yakuza's behind a lot of their rigging Who was the Yakuza? The Japanese mob Makes sense and they're triads I suppose from China And he goes on further He says look you got all these guys, you know They're from poor countries that you know they're in a stadium filled with 80 thousand people there adored like gods They're making 200 bucks a week someone comes along and says hey you know, you might want to slip. And here's $10,000." Well what do you think?

1:16:24 What do you think? Yeah, of course. These guys have got to be jumping at it and I love how this guy just matter-of-factly talks about it You know he's gotta go to the goalies The goalies are the ones who...I saw one guy jumps for the ball and loses control at the very end and knocks it in himself That is my favorite move too Although I almost had it all Oh crap! Oh damn So, but it's amazing. Gitmo Nation Lowland still does not have a government You go to the front page of their newspaper websites There is no mention that the cabinet is still being formed behind closed doors It's all about the World Cup We're through to the next round! We rule! Yay! Orange orange orange! Orange up orange up!

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Julia Gillard Becomes Australian Prime Minister

Kevin Rudd is ousted as Prime Minister of Australia, replaced by Julia Gillard. The hosts attribute Rudd's downfall to his failed global warming policies and a controversial mining tax. They express skepticism toward Gillard, noting her immediate commitment to pursuing carbon pricing and renewable energy initiatives.

julia gillard· kevin rudd· australia· carbon tax· mining tax

1:17:12 And intended so, or are these elections all intended around that time? Such as what just happened in Gitmo Nation down under John. Rudd is out! It's about time... and I think I know why. Us, our doing Yes You know what Australia you have us to thank for that we've been on this guy So it apparently what happens is the guy fell Fell over due to the mining tax disaster first there was a global warming debacle which he couldn't ram through He really ran it through and then everyone said hold on a second buddy or some sensibility. Yeah, hello mate and So something we missed on Sunday There was a plane of

1:18:00 mining chiefs, actually the entire board of one Australian mining company that went missing in Africa and they found the plane. I don't know if the people were all dead but they were after they found the plane. And you know... Russian style? Yeah this was what the Russians did to Polish And so, you know the mining chiefs were all really quite upset about these huge mining taxes. And now the whole board of this company winds up dead and then all a sudden Rudd resigns and they bring in the first female prime minister named Gillard. Apparently even people in Australia are like what just happened? Julia Gillard who is kind of a hottie

1:18:51 I like that. She apparently is a tremendous global warming freak, so we'll see what happens. So now they're just bad to worse? She said she would work to harness wind and solar energy and pursue putting a price on carbon emissions That sounds very much like cap-and-trade. Gee that sounds like a familiar litany Yeah! Can't we be more creative someplace else other than you know just phone whatever with the you know this checklist This agenda's all about Now we've got a Sheila in office And she looks kind of nice She does, she looks hot. Have you seen her? No I haven't seen her. Yeah she's kind of hot. So i sent you another email that has a clip on it which we need to play. Play right now? No no let me set up. This was done on John Hand show apparently John Voight the actor who is something like a right winger. Isn't he uh...

CHAPTER 19 / 27 Discussion

Jon Voight and the Obama Muslim Claim Hoax

Actor Jon Voight appears on Sean Hannity's program to discuss a claim by an Egyptian official that President Obama privately identified as a Muslim. The hosts analyze the clip, ultimately dismissing the story as a likely hoax while noting how such rumors gain traction by connecting to real policy shifts regarding Islamic terminology in government.

jon voight· barack obama· sean hannity· egypt· hoax

1:19:45 Angelina Jolie's dad yes, yeah with the same exact lips So I would kiss him just to think I'm kissing Angelina Jolie. Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far but anyways He's come out with an open letter to Obama and it's just kind of this lame letters not even very interesting We can have a link to it somewhere. I think if that is that letters been out for a couple weeks though Yeah But he had it was on Hannity I guess within the last week or so And he dropped this bomb I just came across something which really amazed me. It's quite extraordinary news and no one is covering it

1:20:31 There was a statement made by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abou Gayeit, I think it's called. It is pronounced. Is this going to be what i told you on the show last Sunday? Maybe okay, and it was because you don't remember All right made on Nile TV. Yeah January On a program called the roundtable right mm-hmm Abul Gaye said he had a one-on-one meeting with President Obama where the president told him that he was still a Muslim and son of a muslim father, the stepson of a muslim stepfather and his half brothers in kenya are muslims. Who is this guy? This fellow is an egyptian foreign minister And it goes on to say... Gate claimed Obama told the Arabs to show patience Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic issues like health care reform I assume He would show the Muslim world how to deal with Israel Now this is devastating news

1:21:33 And no one seems to be covering, but if this is true and apparently they have a video of this announcement that could explain of course why so many things have happened during the last year and half. Explain why Obama's instructed that the term Islamic extremism is not used officially in government documents or statements I mean many many things You know, to the very first moments of his presence in the first move he made was to make a call to the Muslim world from the Oval Office sending his love. So I mean it's it was very disturbing to me that no one has spoken about this except on The No Agenda show last Sunday Yeah we talk about this kind thing but I would listen to this because he had it pretty well outlined I think is besides being a hoax of some sort

1:22:22 because I don't buy it in the least. But, I like the way they connect a couple of interesting...I mean when you're going to do a good hoax you have to connect some reality which is that fact that you can use the terms Islamist extremists or whatever or Muslim extremism memos in Washington supposedly although I haven't seen the memo that says that but its possible and I haven't heard it thats for sure and you've never hear Obama say and uh... there's a book i think one other point there that you know that was being made but uh... i just thought this it was hilarious but if they like to see our hand he was not uh... in getting stuck in the middle of any wasn't gonna touch it is afraid the ended at once afraid you can talk about that

CHAPTER 20 / 27 Discussion

Canadian Earthquake and G20 Summit Distractions

A rare 5.0 magnitude earthquake strikes Ontario and Quebec just days before the G20 summit in Toronto. The hosts speculate on whether the event was a natural occurrence or a "warning" related to the summit. They also mention reports from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) regarding foreign infiltration of the Canadian government.

earthquake· canada· g20 summit· bilderberg· csis

1:23:02 You can't talk about religion. You know one time I was listening to Hannity on the radio and driving around, you'd listen to this stuff in circles right? Somebody calls in they go well Mr. Hannity they're having a meeting of The Builder Burgers and you should be talking about what The Builder Burgers and Hannity goes what?! I've never heard of them! Never heard of The Builder Burgers... He says he's never heard of them and hangs up on the guy. Yeah no that's great What is that all about Yeah, because the first rule about Build-A-Burgers is you don't talk about Build-a-Burgers. That's simple! So they flipped the earthquake machine on in Gitmo Nation Great White North... It was probably the most email we got this week No there were couple other ones but this of course only happened yesterday and I don't believe there's a lot of earthquake activity typically in Quebec or Toronto or Ontario Is there? Did I just lose you John

1:24:03 Yeah, looks like we have a temporary disconnection. You there? Well now I'm gonna believe your theory! Hold on a second let me just make sure we're streaming Hold on. So, the first rule about Bilderberg is don't talk about Bilderberg. The second rule is don't talk about the earthquake machine! So here's the thing you start talking about the earthquake machine I was kind of going into the reasons that they suspected... You know? Well, I mean something's going on and then the phone starts ringing and then you go offline And then I go pick up the phone and there's nobody at the other end. I couldn't reach you all your numbers were busy

1:24:45 Tried your cell I got voicemail. I tried your home phone it was a little I just took off the line after and off the hook Oh, yeah, oh, yeah no this is so clear This is just so clear to me It's just obvious I'm sorry like okay don't talk about that bitches slave shut up You can't talk about that well Maybe she's the subtle reminder that someone's listening what what is your thinking here? So my thinking is two things Actually I only had one at first but now there's two. Now there's two, yeah so the boss of this CSIS came out yesterday and said the government in Canada has been infiltrated by at least three spies from foreign countries and like whoa

1:25:37 And of course that could be the Prime Minister. I mean, he didn't say it wasn't you know? It could be anyone and there's a lot... when you get into that there is a lot of Russian stuff that needs a lot more research But also we have the G20 coming up in two days and I'm thinking it's perhaps intended for two things. One, just to distract people to shake them up a little bit say hey you know just don't think about the g-20 thing about earthquakes shut up just you know and maybe maybe it's a warning for the G 20 like hey guys do what you're supposed to do there

1:26:19 Or else. But don't forget we got our finger on the trigger! We got our finger on the trigger Now, the question I asked when we got rudely cut off There is...I don't think there's typically a lot of earthquake activity in that area is there? No my wife who I said..I think if you caught this or not but she's She's an earthquake junkie She says that there are spots of earthquakes historically In that area they happen in kind of clusters every so often Not often but every so often it's like the earthquakes in Seattle they have them there too which by the way when earthquake happens in Seattle, the way that buildings are constructed Pioneer Square is going to be flattened and that's overdue. The cascade fault anyway It's not impossible. It's not like a crazy earthquake that you know There's no real precedent for this precedent and they're shallow So they transmit along distance as well could be felt in Chicago which I thought was peculiar

1:27:19 Maybe it was coming from Chicago. Who knows? But I think... Oh Jesus, not again! Let's move on to another topic John. Yes, I think we should change the subject. The message is clear. Just shut up you slaves talk about something else I have some stuff we can talk about that's a little off the wall. Please, anything but earthquake machines in Bilderberg! This is not good. You know how people think Nancy Pelosi is kind of a cold-blooded head of the... Snake? Don't you think? Snakey? Yeah snake woman yes. Hit the do you use Botox clip. Oh boy

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

Botox Injections and Emotional Feedback Loops

A study from Barnard College suggests that Botox injections may inhibit a person's ability to experience emotions by paralyzing facial muscles involved in feedback loops. The hosts apply this theory to public figures like Nancy Pelosi and Nicole Kidman, suggesting that cosmetic procedures may have psychological consequences for politicians and actors.

botox· psychology· barnard college· nicole kidman· nancy pelosi

1:28:02 Alright, well do you use Botox? If you do listen up. Psychologists say that using Botox may actually get in the way of experiencing emotions as well as showing them Researchers at Barnard found facial expressions may influence the way the feelings behind them develop Now the study compares it to a feedback loop and since Botox injections paralyze the muscles, they don't send the same messages to your brain. It's kind of paralyzing your head that could change the experience of something like watching a sad movie. Fantastic! That makes so much sense

1:28:40 Yeah, doesn't it? Because you know you cannot and this is the big problem with Botox particularly for actresses. And I'll just say the number one up front is Nicole Kidman who I find to be an excellent actress or actor I should say, but when she knew your eyebrows are not just to catch sweat dripping from your forehead they're actually a huge communication mechanism and when that's gone it is very difficult to communicate through your subtle facial cues. So to think that because you can't communicate that way it actually influences your brain in reverse makes a lot of sense I love that. Yeah, it makes nothing but sense to me but the whole you know is just like this is the acupuncturist so the whole system in the body is like so interconnected as matrixed because you know do your everyone's has done this you can touch all of a sudden you got an inch on your arm and push real hard down next thing you get like pain in your back

1:29:32 Oh yeah, that's connected. Sure, sure. The nervous system is very complicated so the feedback...the possibility of a feedback mechanism with your facial muscles you know and so people who paste on what this says also by the way is that people who paste on a false smile are probably actually feeding back kind of a happy kind of thing back to their brain they're probably better off And they believe it and they believe what they're thinking So, so anyway I thought that was a fascinating little piece of research. I love that yeah we should pay attention to that and we should look up all the politicians who clearly have face lifts and monitor their behavior another job we can't afford Well I think you know Pelosi uses most people believe she's on Botox which would explain a lot of things Wow good one

CHAPTER 22 / 27 Discussion

Fox Attacks and Media Messaging

The hosts discuss a series of unusual reports regarding fox attacks on humans and animals in the UK and US. They question the validity of these stories, suggesting they may be part of a coordinated messaging campaign to influence public opinion on fox hunting or other local issues.

foxes· animal attacks· britain· fox hunting· media propaganda

1:30:24 Yeah, I like that a lot. That's the offbeat Miggy. Yeah no, I'm totally down with that. Um...I'll go along with one of your theories for a minute here John. I think we're about to see a horror movie involving foxes We got a couple of our producers sent in, at least I got a couple of them. Apparently more fox stories showing up around the world. Around the world yeah! In the United States, you know attacking some kids And how does this work? Because foxes as far as i know are pretty much afraid of humans and now there's this three-year old kid and this happened in the Gitmo Nation East region of the lockdown state

1:31:08 He saw a tail poking out from beneath a raised classroom and he decided to pull the tail. The fox turned... As kids love to do! Yeah, but I mean come on when it when a kid is coming up you know the Fox is gonna be out of there man these you can't sneak up on a fox I wouldn't think so. Unless these foxes are stoned on something And then this one, uh... This was- This has got to be a joke, i don't know No, no, I guess it isn't Fears of brutal fox insurgency were growing last night After one of them was spotted trying to ride a horse The Fox was seen leaping from the tree onto the horse and then trying to study itself before instructing the animal to run full pelt towards a hedge

1:32:02 This is bullcrap! I know, but these... and they all have the... interesting if you look at the pictures that are being printed. The fox is like ten times bigger than the person It's photoshop. Yeah, well of course it is but that's the whole point so there has got to be some kind of... There is something going on with the foxes? There is definitely something going on. There are messages, messaging taking place and we're not aware what they were the source or their endgame We don't have a clue what they're targeting with the deal maybe just to get fox hunting re-established in Britain Could be that simple. And then there was just a beautiful piece of real news that I'd like to share with everybody. Escape to incredible Nevada! Oh, shit sorry let me do the real news... I'm sorry now I keep forgetting that YouTube has pre-rolls which uh just sucks. Nevada's great everybody go to travelnevada.com slash info

CHAPTER 23 / 27 Discussion

The Onion's Miley Cyrus Satire and Mark Zuckerberg

A satirical report from The Onion regarding the "overuse" of Miley Cyrus is played, prompting a discussion on the shelf life of child stars. The segment transitions to Mark Zuckerberg's meeting with David Cameron and his claim that Facebook will reach one billion users. The hosts reiterate claims of CIA involvement in Facebook's early funding.

miley cyrus· the onion· mark zuckerberg· facebook· cia

1:32:58 This week the New York Times will run the first in a six-part series examining America's overuse of Hannah Montana star Miley Cyrus. Most experts now agree that at current usage levels, Miley Cyrus will be drained dry of entertainment value by 2013. Joining us now is Miley researcher Dr Justin Canty from The Institute for Sustainable Cyrus Use. Doctor you say this is the worst entertainment crisis humanity has ever faced? Absolutely Absolutely. Miley is a potent entertainment resource, but we are overusing her at unprecedented levels as she's on television albums toys clothing Okay She has a sold-out live concert series if we don't act now the down to earth Miley who likes text messaging with their friends and playing guitar in Her bedroom will be wiped off the earth forever you point to the examples of Lindsay Lohan

1:33:46 Britney Spears, the Olsen twins. Well they were bountiful entertainment resources that our overconsumption reduced to smoldering remnants but we are burning through Miley at a far more aggressive rate than what is the timeline here? Typically a teenage star can have profits drilled from her for approximately six years before dropping down to is she too wild levels. Miley was discovered only three years ago and already there's pregnancy rumors, the photo scandal... However though Disney says it has plans to pump songs and shows out of Miley for at least another 3-5 years before discarding what's left of her She won't last that long within two years she'll be a little more than a withered desiccated

1:34:27 husk incapable of causing anyone any amusement at all. So what are the consequences if we don't cut back on our Miley use? As Miley Entertainment becomes more and more scarce, the millions of families across the world that have grown dependent on it will begin to fight for it or hoard it society as we know it will fail to function, governments will collapse. Humanity will be reduced to roving tribes of barbarians constantly searching and fighting and scouring the landscape for the last remaining Hannah Montana fashion doll or The Best Of Both Worlds CD. Incidentally that is the future that's depicted on the cover of my new book

1:35:03 The bleak prospect, Dr. Justin Canty of the Institute for Sustainable Cyrus Use Thank you sir So obviously the onion I love those guys How do they make money? In terms of a joke was that peak Miley Oh yes they missed that one and they should have done some kind of cap Cap the gushing Miley A cap the trade of Miley Yeah how did those guys make money I don't know. They deserve it. Everything is highly produced and extremely funny, very professional, amazing operation. So I saw Miley Cyrus on the Letterman Show. Oh boy!

1:35:40 Yeah, I try to avoid like she's 17 going on 40 She's like she's like I'm so that's missing is there like you know chewing on gum and just saying yeah. No, that's a really good idea She should have that gravelly voice of Patty and Selma in The Simpsons. She she's so mature It's like wow yeah well That's what happens when you when you Suck too much out of the Miley She's like I mean, it's like ridiculous you would if you'd guessed her age. You think probably 32? interesting anyway so um Mark Zuckerberg was in Gitmo Nation East right well to meet with David Cameron Of course oh because you know that in case you didn't know Facebook's investors include a well-known CIA venture capital firm

CHAPTER 24 / 27 Discussion

iPhone 4 Launch and Apple Privacy Concerns

As the iPhone 4 launches globally, the hosts discuss reports of Apple tracking user data, including GPS coordinates and device status. They warn that upcoming software updates may be designed to disable jailbroken or unlocked phones. The discussion is interrupted by technical difficulties, which the hosts jokingly attribute to "Bilderberg" interference.

iphone 4· apple· at&t· jailbreaking· privacy

1:36:39 Umm... And here's what came out of that meeting. Zuckerberg confident Facebook will reach 1 billion users! I'm like, What? One billion users?! Please!! It just doesn't sound right. It's bullshit, they don't even have the 400 million they claim! I believe that is true...I don't think they have these numbers here. Bull crap! 1 billion users? That's more than how many people are online?! There isn't a billion people online. No there is more that a billion people online but that beside the point why would they all join Facebook?

1:37:19 I mean, there's six billion people on the planet. You can't tell me that a billion of them are all going to hook up. No it's ridiculous and impossible but i suppose with you know some intervention of...I mean probably benefits let's assume that is you know we're gonna you mentioned that there's an investment group as part of the CIA yes um lets assume that you know that is true if the thing has got to be a gold mine for intelligence gathering Well, that's the whole point of Facebook. That-that's why this continuous debate about security is skirted around because... What's the name of it? Oh let me see here CIA investor in someone in chat room will have it before I get it It's a well known... Yeah its one their little funds Yeah what is the name of it? They have couple of them

1:38:14 I mean, if you Google it the it's all over the place. It just can't remember the name of the company anyway someone will find it for us But yeah they have a couple of venture funds and makes nothing but sense but 1 billion users please Please that's just out of control so I have another little shorty here You want to play it? Sure. So you know, there's a lot of TV stations that allow people to ask questions and they show... usually there are some deep political things people need to know a lot and news organizations that are in television, they're not as good necessarily or sharp as print media but they're sincere and they want to help people understand what is going on around them in some meaningful way That was public service

1:39:05 So yeah, so here is KION which is in the Salinas Valley of Central California. They're... this is the kind of you know they show you the kind of important work that these commercial networks and stations do Huh? The project still needs approval from the California Coastal Commission. As for the timeline, the city of Seaside hopes to have construction underway by the end of this year What's your question? Ask us! We'll find answers.

1:40:10 Can I just go on a different topic for a moment, which is something that we don't often discuss technology on this program. Although we're both involved in it and today of course is a huge day much more important than any even more important than the World Soccer, the World Cup The iPhone 4 has come out and around the world, all around Gitmo Nation slaves are standing in line to get their hands on the iPhone. Heaven forbid they would just wait till tomorrow Right Well they're gonna run out of stock you know Yeah you won't get it until next week maybe There's a report that's been going around about an Apple employee named... code-named Alpha who is saying that

1:40:55 And I understand on one hand why because of course everyone is out there trying to do two things to the iPhone 4 and the iOS4 which is a jailbreak it so you can run programs that don't go through the App Store and Two, to unlock it. So you're not locked into AT&T and according to this deep throat within Apple What's going to happen is AT&T will be sending out some code and if you don't respond to this code it'll say, hey optional updates available. And if you decline that then eventually they'll say you have to install the update and what that will do is if you have a unlocked phone ie not tied into the carrier AT&T in this case in the United States

1:41:46 I shouldn't be talking about this either. I can't talk about anything now, the connection just breaks How is it now? Yeah well i guess we just can't talk about anything Well I think Apple and the Builder Burgers are the same operation that makes nothing but sense to me I don't know what to say. You know, I will say this that last night there was a level 3 had a backbone router go haywire and people couldn't reach Amazon all kinds of other crap going on. Yeah i heard about that you know it's funny because I noticed some latency on the system

1:42:23 And I went to Google it and of course, you know Google gives you nothing but marketing crap about level 3 and how great their service is. The only place where you can really get any information is on Twitter! It's pathetic that you have to get news from Twitter? Well actually its quite good news because you actually get some information. Its not research news but at least people...I knew pretty quickly what was going on just like oh my god Now this google thing has got to be fixed So anyway, so what you're saying is that apparently they're going to send out some nasty... Well there's two things. The main thing is... Hold on one second John this my daughter hold on Hey darling! Hey but I just want to make sure your alive baby Okay because I didn't see any tweets or Facebook and that makes me worried Okay alright Call me later when your battery is full okay? Hmm a helicopter parent Love ya baby Bye

1:43:31 Yeah, you know when I don't see a Twitter or Facebook for two days. I get worried absolutely So anyway back to this thing it looks like you know This is what the did what the satellite companies have been doing well The thing is that they're actually sending information about your phone To home your phone is sending information to home base both if its jailbroken Or if it's unlocked And it's also apparently sending GPS coordinates. It is a lot of stuff that Apple is doing, that I don't see anyone questioning Maybe I'm just missing it but I see very little reporting about this Nobody's going to say anything bad about Apple they get nothing but flack

1:44:13 But yeah, but this is the same you know these people can protect their equipment any way they want to. I don't think it's... You subscribe to the Apple...you're all in when you get an Apple product and if they wanna screw with it then make a dude jump through hoops that's what..it's not like its a... That's it! We're not gonna talk about Apple anymore we're not going to talk about Bilderberg anymore were not gonna talk about....I guess we can just end the show So I guess we can't talk about that. Apple rocks! Apple is excellent. Apple's the best and we love the unnamed operations on Kree. Right after this show, I'm going out and getting my iPhone 4. It's awesome. Yeah go get in line. Kick ass. I'm gonna get in line. I'm gonna sit there with all the slaves. It's good. Apple's good. Good. Good. Good. Apple good. So next week we're going to get to a topic that I wanted to do on this show or the next show on Sunday I guess. Genetically engineered insects...that's coming

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Genetically Engineered Mosquitoes and Monsanto Alfalfa

The Supreme Court rules in favor of Monsanto, allowing the distribution of genetically modified alfalfa seeds before full environmental testing is completed. The hosts also discuss a project involving genetically engineered mosquitoes with "glowing eyes," expressing concern over the long-term safety of such biological experiments.

monsanto· genetic engineering· mosquitoes· alfalfa· usda

1:45:19 genetically engineered insects yeah this is the mosquito story I've seen swirling around a little bit there's a couple of different stories floating around apparently they the guys who since they don't have an a piece of this are Monsanto and they're trying to keep this information or any of this stuff from happening, but you can expect to have... They did a mosquito that they not only genetically engineered it to be weird. But if they gave it green glowing eyes as you see in the picture? No! It was photoshopped! This is the problem I have with genetic engineering people The goofballs that do this stuff, they decided to give it phosphorescent eyes that glow in the dark

1:46:05 This is the kind of stuff that these guys are going to be doing. It's like coders in the computer business, always screwing around with little putting little things in the background so it was funny something show their friends this is the kind of thing that's gonna create the insect that kills us all because some goofball decided to make the eyes glow green I mean there's that the mentality is wrong and people are not safety conscious well in that case we might as well make mention of the second most emailed article hopefully we can talk about them for just a second otherwise I'm just gonna end the show. Or, i think we should at least so the court decided it was okay for Monsanto to distribute in this case alfalfa seed genetically modified alfalfa seed before it has been tested and approved by the USDA and subsequently the FDA

1:46:58 What is alfalfa used for, John? In daily life. Feeding animals. Okay so then it would... It's like hay only better So this kind of fits in especially the Monsanto hay is better So your thoughts to some corruption or something I don't know. The way i looked at it, and didn't read the brief which might be interesting and sure there's some argument in there is pretty solid but it just seemed like you know why we just shoot ourselves now? Just give the country to Monsanto. Yeah well I'm all for the government not Not telling anyone what they can do or but then don't tell us what to do You know you can on one hand have Michelle Obama out there with oh my god. Did you see her new project? John butt lifts no let's move gov Let's move. Oh yeah, oh, you've got a look at it. Let's move cov this is this is the setup to the codex This is this is all the part of the getting ready to tell you what you can eat and

CHAPTER 26 / 27 Discussion

Michelle Obama's Let's Move Initiative and Food Deserts

First Lady Michelle Obama promotes her "Let's Move" initiative to combat childhood obesity. The hosts focus on the term "food deserts," arguing that the government is using nutrition as a pretext for increased regulation of the food supply. They link these efforts to the international Codex Alimentarius standards.

michelle obama· let's move· food deserts· usda· nutrition

1:48:02 Actually, Jon Stewart had a funny bit on that as well. America's move to raise a healthier generation of kids. Yeah listen to what the first lady has to say. Before we became elitist. I was busy trying to maintain some balance, picking kids up from school and trying to get things done at work. Not everyone has security detail now. What i found myself doing was probably making up for it and being unable to cook a good meal for my kids going fast food

1:48:38 a little more than I'd like, ordering pizza. And I started to see the effects on my family particularly my kids. It got to the point where our pediatrician basically said you may want make some changes so we started making those changes short easy changes but they led to some really good results So i wanted to bring the lessons that I learned to the White House There's a meme in here John pay attention This lead to our new initiative Let's Move Let's Move is a nationwide initiative that basically focuses on four key components. First, we want to improve the information and the tools that parents need to make the changes better desired in their families. The second is that we have to improve the quality of food in our schools. That's where kids are eating many other meals and we have to do a better job making sure that food has quality

1:49:31 Third, we need to improve access and affordability of healthy foods. We have to eliminate food deserts in this country. There it is! Food Deserts! And then so you go to Access To Affordable Healthy Food because I want to find out about the food deserts and there's a link to food desert which is supposed to go The USDA, oh they fixed the link it was broken before. Access to affordable and nutritious food measuring and understanding food deserts and their consequences a report to Congress so uh... Food Desert John that's you want to stay away from them yeah oh heaven forbid I'd be stuck in a food desert So this is where the government is Who comes up with this crap? The elitists who want to run the world

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

Outro and Melanie Phillips on Western Irrationality

The show concludes with a final, extended clip from Melanie Phillips. She discusses the roots of anti-Americanism and anti-Zionism in the West, arguing that the abandonment of objective truth has left Western nations unable to confront radical Islamism. The hosts sign off, promising to return for the next "service" on Sunday.

melanie phillips· israel· islamism· richard dawkins· objective truth

1:50:27 Yeah, let's not end it on that note. We have a great thing from what's-her-name Melanie coming up at the end of the show Melanie Phillips the book is The World Turned Upside Down? Yes, The World Turned Upside Down. Is there anything else you want to play before we get out of here? I mean...I literally have to leave now. On a down note the only things left are kind of like bummers. Wait let me see if i can find anything non-bummy Let's see here I got Rich Uranium that's a bummer, bummer, bummer, bummer, bummer, bummer We have the rape acts. I got everything there as a downer. Do women need sex pill? I got that. The condom that grabs your penis locks on. No, no, no...I think we're just out of it John. There's nothing but bummers

1:51:21 cable let's finish up and that we have a little bit at the end and will be back on sunday don't get to go to work dot org slash in any and give us your support and back on sunday and hopefully talk a little more about uh... the genetically engineered insects which is something we all need glowing eyes you know i haven't been located with not and uh... i will come back and that please all the producers out there are working with me on Convincing John that there might be something to the chemtrail story. No, let's don't start encouraging as John at Dvorak org think To agree with your some of these assertions which are known to be bogus Okay well I mean it's I love how you are right there with me on the earthquake machine but

1:52:10 Not on the chemtrails. If you find something in the UN report, the only thing I got sold on the earthquake machine is because you had all these reports that were official UN documents discussing the treaties... You should find one of these that says anything about chemtrails! Okay, you go it. Consider it done. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center Where we just had a 4.0 earthquake in Southern California, the People's Republic of I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's a chilly What happened to the weather? Where's the weather machine? I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk again on Sunday for early morning service right here on no agenda strange thing

1:52:54 All these secular ideologies that I've been talking about, as well as Islam have at heart a real hatred of Jewish peoplehood or Jewish religion. And this may sound rather strange because these are all very disparate ideologies. But let me suggest these things to you, for example take moral relativism the idea there is no moral authority we can all do our own thing it's a lifestyle choice when its Judaism that laid down the moral law which forms the very foundation of Western morality and that moral law is what he's under attack from moral and cultural relativism multiculturalism and all of that

1:53:32 Take the Green Movement, take environmentalism. It is actually Genesis that draws their deepest wrath because they interpret the biblical dominion of mankind over the earth as an example of divine imperialism or colonialism If you look at Richard Dawkins, his great bestseller The God Delusion. It is the god of the Hebrew Bible singled out in his great diatribe against religion in general it is the god of the Hebrew Bible who he singles out as the fountainhead of violence brutality intolerance and bigotry in the world In the Dawkins

1:54:09 environment, it would appear in the Dawkins a utopia. If the God of the Hebrew Bible was got rid off then at the brotherhood of man and the reign, the age of perfect reason would have no impediment whatsoever And it is Jews who are the principal target of the attacks by anti-Americans and anti-imperialists on the neoconservatives, the euphemism for those who were alleged to have formed the global conspiracy to subvert American foreign policy in the interests of Israel. And it's that issue of Israel which is now the greatest symbol of all, of Western irrationality particularly in Britain where there is a sustained and relentless campaign of lies and libel about Israel. And openly expressed irrational Jewish conspiracy theories and demonization of those who object. So the result of all this

1:55:01 is that the West cannot deal with Islamism, which itself is driven by a theologically inspired desire to eradicate the Jews and which turns truth and lies victim and victimizer inside out because the West itself has dispensed with the idea of objective truth. The west itself inverts in all these other ideologies, inverts truth and lies victim and victimiser and so on Now, these ideologies all play in different countries differently. Britain is I would suggest the global leader in this. Britain was first into the Enlightenment and it's now the first out but these ideas have traction across the whole of the West and even in God's own country America

1:55:46 For example, I'm afraid to bring it home to you that America's exports in recent years have included Al Gore whose mendacious film about global warming is even now on the curriculum in British schools and taught as fact. It is America which has produced the unlovely duo of Mearsheimer and Walt who have created this, given an academically respectable imprimatur to Jewish conspiracy theory of the most odious and irrational kind. And it's the attacks through Chomsky, Naomi Klein, MoveOn.org on anti-imperialism, anti-Americanism and so on all

1:56:34 all in America. This is no agenda