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00:00 That guy was a dick, that military guy. Adam Curry, John C. Devorak. It's Sunday, June 20th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 210. This is no agenda. Celebrating fatherhood around the globe! And coming to you from the hilltop watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And Northern Silicon Valley here. Trains are going by. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! In the morning to you, John.

00:37 In the morning to everybody out there everybody all human resources of Gitmo nation worldwide All ships at sea. Yes, indeed, particularly the ships at sea and happy Father's Day to you. Yeah, it's another one of those bogus holidays. We don't really celebrate You know, it's funny But still I woke up this morning and I was like, I hope I get a message from my daughter I would be so disappointed if she didn't at least say it right and But they, if you don't make a big deal out of it, they'll tend to forget. I didn't make any deal out of it and she, she twittered me. That's nice. Ooh, a twitter. Yeah, well that's a public sign of affection. I like that. That's nice. This, this stream by the way, on today's noagendastream.com, apparently now banned in Ireland. Oh really? Yep. Why? Hold on a second. Let me call Ireland for a moment.

01:39 Someone must know. Yeah, well that's how we found out. Someone in the chat room said that they can't get through to knowagenestream.com and they're in Ireland. So I'm presuming that we've been filtered out. It's about time. How would they even know we exist let alone filter us? I mean it was not a porn unless what are you doing on daily source code? Let me see we had Bobby Eden in the chat no that was during no agenda no we had her in the chat room on source code too but I don't think that's it. Was she somehow naked? No no anyway John before we get started I owe a number of people a huge apology you being one of them

02:31 as on the last show I completely lost my shit and was projecting my own crap and so I apologize to you. I apologize to your kids because they have a great dad and your kids of course are absolutely brilliantly smart and I apologize to your wife and I apologize to the listeners. I'm sorry. Well If I might make a mention of something. Please. I just, it was kind of baffling to me, but I can kind of understand some of the other issues you have, but to attack my kids.

03:14 Was the baffling part because a you've met them both mm-hmm and They are extremely well mannered polite. They're actually some of the best kids you could have met anyone can have they never get in trouble They're self-supervising. They're responsible everything you want in a kid is in these kids and To say that, to kind of condemn them, I felt was vile, to say the least. And then to somehow, I also found it disturbing that you'd associate homeschooling with something negative, since it kind of violates some of the principles of the show that we do. Well, it was a poor attempt at humor. I was trying to get myself off of the bad track I was going down, and so I turned that into terrorism.

04:01 Again, I lost my shit and I'm really sorry because of course I didn't mean that. There's also by the way a show etiquette that you violated which is that when one of us gets boring and the other one calls them on it you're supposed to stop. Yes, well I violated a number of etiquettes. All right, well we'll let it slide. Are we good? We'll let it slide. Are we good? Yeah, we're good to go. All right, man. Okay So right off the bat. I have to tell you of some horrible news that took place in in California and a clear case of two to the head Thursday afternoon 28 year old inventor Tyson Larson was killed in an explosion that ripped a hole in the roof and blew out the back doors of a Simi Valley building and

04:56 of his family's company, Realm Industries. The guy was working on water fuel technology and he had built a... he actually had investors. He had... Isn't this supposed to go in the second half of the show? No, I think I should put it in the first half of the show because he was working with... well some of the stuff that you remember my hydroxy booster that I had on the Jaguar with brown gas. creating hydrogen from electrolysis. Right, the process that doesn't work. Well, I don't know. All I know is I got 30% fuel efficiency on the Jaguar. And so this is pretty dangerous stuff. I mean, all it takes is a good spark for it to blow up. And if you got, I guess if you're making enough of this stuff, and it's pretty simple to do. And there's aerial pictures in this report that's linked in the show notes of noagendershow.com. The thing that is troubling though,

05:54 in this report. So two people in the facility were uninjured, one person was killed in the blast which blew a hole in the roof. Initially three were thought to have been injured. It turns out that Tyson Larson himself was was killed by blunt force, which I find interesting. They're calling it blunt force. Would a blast be blunt force? I would never call it. If you get blowed up, I don't see how that's a blunt force. Yeah, doesn't seem like blunt force, does it? But here it is. By coincidence, the Simi Valley Police SWAT team was just down the street on a training exercise when the explosion occurred. And the officers were able to arrive on the scene within moments.

06:44 You know what, you know that just... Yeah, I know this is a... yeah. I don't know, do you have a link to this story? Because you caught me completely off guard with this one. I can't contribute anything. I can't... Yes, I do. I do heavily. This guy was doing what? He was breaking water into oxygen and hydrogen with electricity to take and recombine it in a fuel cell or an engine that burns hydrogen and then for some reason he accumulated so much hydrogen and oxygen in some container that the mixture blew up the whole house. Yeah, blew up his his his workshop. Yeah, he has like investors. Yes, he has $7 million. Now let's see there's also possible that the guy just blew himself up because he you know, didn't know what he was doing. I took well I took $7 million and it's not working. I might as well blow myself up.

07:38 I don't know. I don't know. The only thing I always find interesting is when by coincidence there's a SWAT team down the street. Well, you know, later in the show we start talking about SWAT teams, it turns out that this is not much of a coincidence. Yeah, yeah. I watched the show you told me to watch last night. The show we're talking about is Stossel's. Stossel is turning into a complete overt Out-and-out maxed out libertarian John Stossel He was on I think WNBC in New York when I lived there And he was always kind of the guy that did like the fluff pieces he did went to 2020 right and that's where he started being the guy who was gonna stand up for the consumer and as they were fluff pieces there were these lightweight

08:25 You know, can you believe that they're charging a nickel at this place and a dime across the street? Yeah, he reminds me of... what's the guy at the New York Times who does all the Apple... or does all the reviews and stuff, the technology stuff? Pogue. Yeah, he reminds me of David Pogue. Exactly. At least back then he did, and now it's something completely different. Well, the Fox hired him. and then they relegated into the weekends doing these specials with an audience which is very unlike fox and is more like that colbert report well hold on i mean it's just a it's just a couple of bleachers with idiots off the street in a couple of shills i mean it's nothing like the colbert audio is not a big big audience that will be able to be a you'd never see the whole audience a cool brown how big it is not as big as letterman which apparently has the biggest studio right audience anyway the point is he's got this uh...

09:20 I don't know what the point of the audience is to be honest. Well, it's just to fill up the spots next to the shills that he has on the bleachers because he has he has people who are invited into the show and And they don't get to sit on the panel. They just sit in the bleachers So they need to fill it up with like some homeless people or whatever is there? So anyway, he comes on with this libertarian stuff that is actually very compelling. I'm surprised Fox even allows it because you saw that special, it was on legalization of drugs. But before we go to that story, let's finish with the guy who got blowed up. Okay, I gave you the link, right? You saw it by now? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. Explosion of California Water Fuel Research Company kills inventor.

10:09 Inventor is a big word. I mean, this is not like some huge invention. I don't know what he was inventing. Other than... The explosion was likely the result of an attempt to compress hydroxy gas. Yeah, that's the brown gas. That's the stuff that I was making. And on my Jaguar I just had a very little installation and I had to have a blowback tube in case some spark would come back from the engine. Highly unlikely by the way, the way it was set up. But in case something would blow back then it would basically blow the top off of this blowback thing and wouldn't explode the actual canister. The stuff does work. I mean it burns beautifully. Browns gas, it burns. I mean it's hydrogen or a version of it.

10:55 It's hydrogen and oxygen. Yeah. Yeah, well it should burn but you know it takes more energy to make it than it produces. Unless this guy's got something... he's compressing Brown's gas. Yeah, maybe that was the problem. Maybe that's not such a good idea. Well it's gonna heat up because all compression activity heats it up so it just must have ignited. Maybe made a bomb. Or maybe he... I mean the obvious Theory here is that he was on to something, he had people interested and they sent in the SWAT team to blow him up. That's the part I don't like. That is the part that just, you know, sure, shit happens, people are messing around with what they call Joe tubes and all kinds of stuff all the time, which is all highly explosive, but then to have a SWAT team nearby. It's just one of those little coincidental things. Coincidence? I think not!

11:56 All right. Well, the thing is when we when I do one of the themes with today's show is the legalization of drugs But before we go there, yeah, yeah bring something a clip in that might be more entertaining Yeah, do you want to do executive producer if we have one or do you know? Yeah, we do actually yeah, we have an executive producer I'm glad we do You know, I opened the spreadsheet a second ago. I Great. Anyway, hang on a second. Yeah, no problem. I'm bummed about spreadsheets. I appreciate the work that Eric the Shield does but just Excel by itself just starting that whole program up. I don't like my computer groans. The other thing is that the Berkeley think I've said this before. Yeah, people use it for the craziest shit. They use it for everything. So our executive producer is Michael Fessig in Newman's town, Newman, Newman's town.

12:54 PA $200 executive producer. That's all we got and No comment. Okay. Well, we appreciate that and I'd like to make mention of Dave Bryan who Throws his hat into the ring for PR associate status Not quite there yet, but certainly an honorable mention for his new no agenda producer project. No agenda entertainment.com It features a collection of links to all forms of multimedia related to NOAA Agenda, books, videos, movies and audio. Also guest appearances, which I hope would also include your CNBC appearances in the future, John, if you ever get invited back.

13:38 It seems unlikely. And all other ways... We know you won't. No, that was MSNBC. Same thing. All other ways that NOAgenda shows up in our real world. NOAgendaEntertainment.com. I think it's a beautiful looking site. It's stunning. It makes us look like a big entertainment conglomerate. We should sell now. While we're ahead of the game. Alright, Michael Fessig. Fessig, right? Fessig yeah. Fessig we completely appreciate your support and as you know as executive producer of No Agenda you can put this on your resume it is an actual credit and it has been known to be able to get you gigs and in some cases even get you laid. A little greasy finger today. Alright go on propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth. Say it with me now.

14:43 Oh before I forget John before we get into drugs I never thought I'd say that with you I went to see Toy Story 3 yesterday. Oh Well now okay, let me just let before you can say anything. We here's what I heard. It's great I saw it in 3d against my better judgment as you know I You know, this is one of those Mickey's deals where she has, through the Screen Actors Guild, we get to go to the Directors Guild of America screening. So it's really nice and pristine and the way you should see it. The glasses suck. Which kind of glasses? Was this the polarizers or was this the notch filters? You see, I don't know. How can I tell? Okay.

15:41 Okay, you first of all I wear glasses so it's always shitty when you have to put the glasses over your glasses That's complicated. They're supposed to be kind of made for it or were they heavy? Yes lenses. Yes thick thick lens is not filter. Yeah, I think yeah, I would have to agree So now I still think it's like looking through a view master which a lot of it has that note fed that quality because of the Darkness, I think it's dark and the image is dark However, I will say in this particular case Very very functional the 3d was extremely functional for this type of animated movie And I have to say I laughed I really liked the movie. It was a it's a great story And of course like all good kid movies it has a lot of adult jokes in there particularly about Barbie and Malibu Ken

16:35 And it was funny. I enjoyed it from beginning to end, although when the scene gets a little bit darker, then the glasses start to give you a headache and you see kind of spots and it's weird. But when it's really all lit up, I mean, I have to say, it was very functional. As you know, I'm not a big 3D fan and I didn't have any depth perception problems afterwards, as far as I can tell. Except the fact that I keep hitting the wrong jingles this morning. Could be related. So, okay, you know, you were the last week because we the show was so ruined by a long diatribe. You didn't get to talk tell us about your experience in San Diego, which I think is necessary to the to the audience. Oh, yeah, you're right. So

17:25 I had been ill for four or five days and I was finally feeling a little bit better and Mickey and I decided to go on a road trip to San Diego just to get out of the house and drive and stay somewhere and catch some fresh air. Let me interrupt and say that Mickey actually talked to me about this beforehand so I could have some input. because she wanted to find you know she's not from california and died by confirmed what she was thinking which is to go to the hotel del coronado which is one of the most spectacular pieces of architecture on the west coast and then it because i went there with my wife sometime ago we saw the haunted room and we did all the stuff there and it was it was uh...

18:08 It was a little run down, but it was a good experience. Yes. Well, first of all, I think on that phone conversation you discussed with her how to poison me with bad oysters. Don't lie. I was talking about poisoning you and I said probably the best ways with bad oysters. Right. So Hotel Del Coronado. Give it a look. I'm only here for the hints and tips. That's right. Which is why she called you. And she had indeed also found Hotel Del Coronado. So we drive down. By the way, for those of you in California, there's a toll road now, the 73 off the 405, which is four bucks and 75 cents is well worth it. It's just phenomenal. It's like 20 lanes and there's no one on it. You just cruise through the mountains. It's great. Or through the hills, I should say.

18:58 So we get there and I didn't think Hotel del Coronado was run down. It looks like they might have done some renovation actually. It looked really nice. It's one of these, was it built in the late 1800s? You can almost feel the ladies with parasols walking around and it has a real good vibe. It's right on the beach. But at check-in we already noticed the biggest problem is that they have brought in just a slew of low-wage nincompoops to run this thing. And this is a big complex. I don't know how many rooms they have, but it's big. And they've got new buildings off to the side, and they've got private little villas, and then of course the big house.

19:43 And you know, it's just they got like millennials running the running the show and I have to say a lot of Mexicans now, of course is close to Mexico But just the service was atrocious, you know, the keys were wrong and it's a long walk back to back to the lobby. Oh Boy, do I hate that and it was just because of the system. They only have one card maker and And it's funny because I came back and another guy's keys were wrong as well because he basically had my keys because you know if someone else hits the button on their terminal but yet someone else puts their card in first you get the wrong key card stupid and um you know so that was like all right then the bags didn't show up and I and you know we called then I had to go back all the end to the and they were sitting there they're just sitting there

20:29 Ready to be stolen. Yeah, well not being brought to my room. So yeah, this is not a cheap room. Like 400 bucks a night. It's not cheap. That was too high. It's ridiculous. That was the cheapest room available. It's ridiculous. Why are these hotel rooms all over the country so expensive? And we looked online and online it was like, oh here's a great deal, $700. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is bullshit. Well you must have had a big giant suite then. No, no, it was just a normal room. With a little balcony. A Vegas room you would have had a suite for that kind of money. So anyways... In Reno you go with that kind of money you get a floor.

21:09 So here's the thing that's really weird. So we had dinner now, it was a Monday night so the Ocean 1500 restaurant is closed on Monday night so we had to, you know, there's a restaurant right next door and they're both restaurants run by the hotel. Food, very marginal, you know, it's okay. Service, atrocious. I love it when some guy comes out of the kitchen, he's basically still wearing his cook's outfit and he's just like, oh, here's your food. You know what I mean? They're reaching all the way past me to put it, completely no etiquette at all. But two things, one, we felt the earthquake, which was later registered at 5.7 on the bogus scale, whatever it is these days, which was exactly on the same meridian as

21:58 San Diego and that was weird because we were sitting outside and it was really like a real slow moving back and forth and that was Probably the most intense earthquake I've ever felt. Yeah, it's a classic Southern California style earthquake I've been down there for two of them. Yeah a real roller yeah they roll is kinda like a it's very pleasant actually but here's the problem so you have this beautiful hotel on this beautiful beach which by the way is very special because it has gold flakes which is my car apparently that uh... line because if you go down to the baha california all the beaches uh... down through the dance and i are all

22:34 Flipped flicked with gold. So it's beautiful. I mean, it's just yeah, it's it's it's is that you just feel like you're in a gold mine Literally were it not for the fact that this beach is exactly on the approach path for the naval base there I kid you not from 9 a.m. To 9 p.m. And actually there was one the last straggler around 10 p.m They are flying over the beach at a frequency of one flight every three minutes, and it is Blackhawk helicopters Big 737 767s unmarked I might add completely white these must have been the rendition flights

23:10 um... lear jets all kinds of civilian aircraft is going to be this is going into what airport and i was going into the naval base is that there's a naval base so much activity at the same is a naval base is the question now i i i saw the lear jet did about twenty go around so they were clearly practicing approaches all of these helicopters and just do every three minutes and helicopters near these black hawks their loud and they come over like seven eight hundred feet over the beach And every single, every three minutes. And then there was a huge aircraft carrier right in front of the hotel and every hour or so an F-16 would take off or something equivalent to that. And it completely ruined it. The whole thing is ruined. And I said to this dorky hotel staff, I said, you know, what's up with that?

23:58 I said, yeah, yeah, you know, they're really busy. So what are they doing? I don't know. And of course I crack a joke. I say, oh, you know, they're flying all the drugs in from Mexico. And the guy says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's military. I said, yeah, that's my point, dude. He didn't get the joke. Not a listener. It's probably not a joke. Yeah. But it was just, it's just nonstop, John. Nonstop. I have no idea what they're doing. I mean, so I could tell one training exercise, the Learjet doing the approaches. But all the other ones, I have no idea and it was from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Every three minutes and you know that people like oh, I don't hear it anymore Yeah, well I'm here for my rest and for my for peace and and and I can't if you've stayed there This wasn't taking place when were you there? How long ago would it were we a decade? I don't know if ten years ago five years ago. We were at war then so it was before the war then it was before 9-11 Oh, okay, and there was nothing going on

24:55 Especially not something every three minutes. Unbelievable activity. Especially helicopters. Those things are the most annoying products flying around. They shouldn't even be... Why are they even there? I don't know, man. And I don't know what they're doing. Is it a training place where everybody has to keep... I mean, is San Diego a training facility? Seems odd. Well, I know that when you... I mean, there's a... Okay, never mind. Well, when you drive down, you pass by this huge naval base, which is all fenced off. with big radar installations and that's what they're landing on. And the approach, you can literally stand on the beach and you can see them, well you can't actually see the landing strip, but you can see them, the whole glide path when they land. But the crazy thing is all these big unmarked jets.

25:40 Completely white, not even Air Force, they did have a tail number. Unreadable, so not on the tail but like right above the engine. Unreadable with the naked eye but no military markings but completely white. Filled with I'm sure get more passengers. I had if you remember I was at the Seattle once in a tenet and a big Giant 747 came in that was on that was one painted on white. Yeah, that was a Chinese Chinese era It turned out to be a Chinese China era and they're just too cheap now these definitely had n markings but

26:16 Oh really? But the thing is, you couldn't see the... I have a camera that I had with me at the time, it has like a 20x zoom on it. And I actually zoomed in on the tail number. So you should carry... what I'm saying is you should have a camera with a big zoom lens on it. We had it, but we didn't have it at dinner. When it really got annoying. Miramar Marine Base is what I'm reading in the chat room. Does that make sense? Miramar Marine Base? I don't know, maybe. Sounds right. Anyway, it ruined it. I think the hotel the hotel is ruined and then so the Marines are just going in and going crazy Oh, yeah, and to add insult to injury someone had already actually reserved and checked into the haunted room So we couldn't check it out. Someone had requested it specifically so we couldn't go in I don't know anyone want to sleep in a room. No, apparently people reserve it specifically they want to stay in the haunted room because we went up there say hey Can we see the haunted room and then people?

27:14 Be quiet. Go sit over there. We'll come over in a minute." I was like, what? It's like, well we can't show you because someone's checked into it right now. But Ixnay on the Haunted Hay. It's a feature. Then they play it well. Yeah, I guess. So that sucked. It didn't suck because at the end of the day it was nice to get out. We had a nice drive. And it was okay. But the noise was... it just ruined it. Completely ruined it. Not your fault, but... Yeah, well, it's the last time I recommend that place. Now I don't know what to tell you. Just keep driving. Go down to Mexico, man. So here's a disturbing story talking about Mexicans, or in this case Hispanics, which is more broad-based.

28:12 Did you get this, did anyone send you this, this vote system? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this actually showed up last week. This is the New York township, isn't that it? Court-ordered election allowed the residents of one New York town to flip the lever six times for one candidate and produced a Hispanic winner. could expand to other towns where minorities complain that their voices aren't being heard. By the way, this is Port Chester, which is, isn't that near Westchester? I mean, isn't this kind of up there in hedge fund land? Port Chester, I didn't know there was a lot of... It might be, it sounds like it is. It's up near Rye and all that? I'd have to open up Google Maps to see. So the way I understood this idea is that the court

28:55 Ordered a change in the electoral process because there is such a minority the Hispanic population is in such a minority and Correct me if I'm wrong that it were Hispanics allowed to flip the lever. Everybody could do this. Everybody can flip the lever six times thereby somehow through some crazy math making it more fair to everybody. I don't get it. I mean, what difference does it make? Don't you just divide everything by six? Doesn't it equal the same thing? Well, no. If you have a slate of ten people and one of them is a minority that let's say nobody likes except the minorities. Right.

29:41 And the minorities, instead of voting for the slate, you know, say there's 10 people on the slate and you can vote for 6 of them because they're going to be the city council. So you would normally take the ballot and you'd vote for the 6 people or just none of them or whatever you wanted to, one at a time, and then the top vote getters would be the be the guys in but then they've decided that it's fair to give you six votes because you actually are voting six times but you but it's never been thought you could vote for the same person six times. That's what I would do I mean that's so obvious. That's what you would do especially if you're a minority let's say some some group in some you know it essentially gets your guy in and it's been maybe disproportional I mean I think that's the problem is that you have

30:27 You know six candidates and you have a pretty you know a makeup of the community of Let's say six different ethnic groups and one group does this has very few people And you have a candidate that they all vote for six times I mean the whole thing is is asking for trouble and apparently it worked though right well. I got the guy in yeah Luis Marino yeah, Peruvian immigrant hmm Making him Port Chester's first Hispanic trustee. You make it sound like a bad thing. It is a bad thing Well, this this is in a way. It's kind of like I'm giving you give me a you know a box of votes I have a vote I can vote for this guy that guy if I like Marino I vote for him. I don't vote for him six times It's like stuff in the ballot box. What's the difference? This is in a way it kind of falls in line with the with the whole filibuster thing which of course is always a

31:26 a point of contention where in, so of course we have a republic but in the democratic process you know 50 plus one should win the vote but because minorities need to be heard and I heard this explained on some, it was probably on C-SPAN Of course the Senate could change this whenever they wanted to but they don't because they use it to their advantage when they're at a disadvantage. So that's why you have to have the 60 votes. But it's exactly for kind of the same reason is to give the smaller so that the majority doesn't always win, that the minority has some kind of fighting chance. And how did they come up with six? I mean is that based upon the population? No, I think it was based on the

32:09 the ballot They're apparently were okay, right? You're gonna vote six times, you know in this unit It's like pick six, you know, you've seen us on ballots. It says, you know candidates for I guess some trusteeship, you know vote for six So you vote for six people, but you don't vote for one person six times. I mean that that that's weird Cumulative voting. Yeah, and that's gonna you watch it catch on. Yeah. No, I bet. Oh, yeah. Oh But it'll be all of a sudden, it'll be you can, you know, you're just gonna get, here's the way it's gonna go, or it could. Yeah, you got to divide your public up with 25% this group and 40% that group and 10% of this small group, or 5%. And you say, well, you know, it's unfair to these 5%.

32:58 this little group, let's give them to make everything even because we can't, you know. It's unfair. It's so unfair. It's unfair to them that you have 40 percent, let's say, of the population white and let's say 1 percent of the population Arabic. So let's give every one of those Arabic people 40 votes and that evens things out. And what could be more fair than that? It's not fair. No, it's totally fair. These people now have the voice that's equal to that of the white majority.

33:35 Isn't that just... It's actually not even a white majority. They don't even have... let's say in California it'll be 55% Hispanic. Really? I mean we're in the minority. We gotta get this to go through. Yeah, we need it quickly. This is actually a brilliant idea. We need this. But I mean that's essentially the way, what it sounds like to me. It's a scam. You know, show everyone's happy. I mean this is bullshit. Yeah, it's... Yeah, but it just seems like something that there's obviously a really good argument behind it. A logical, debatable argument that is probably very compelling. Yeah, if you're in the minority. Well, it could happen to anybody. And meanwhile, a Gitmo nation, Lowland, still doesn't have a government as far as I know. They're still fighting about the coalition.

34:27 What's taking them so long? Well, Geert Wilders is the problem of course. I mean you had the right-leaning party with 31 percent of the vote the left-leaning party with 30% of the vote and feared builders which of course would be considered I guess extreme right with 25 or 26 percent of the vote and no one wants to work together hmm and and then the Christian Democrats are kind of the wild card who've been running the country for the past eight years and they although they lost like half of their

35:03 possible parliamentary seats, they still have you know like 20% of the vote and you know and they don't want to work with anybody. So the country is basically rudderless right now. It's probably never done so well. Well it doesn't matter because no one cares. I look at the newspapers every day online and it's all World Cup. Everyone's comp... it's all Vuvuzela. That's all anyone can talk about is, oh turn off the horns, the horns are bothering me. What should be bothering you is the fact that your government robbed you blind, is going to make you work longer, slave, and is taking away all of your benefits to pay off the bankers. That's what should be worrying you, no. Hey, we won against Japan, big deal. Do people not realize that all organized sports are rigged?

35:54 I mean let's be honest about it. I mean come on there's so much money you can't tell me that with all the money that's rolling around in in World Cup soccer that it's not fixed. I mean the guy, was the German guy who resigned just before the 2010 cup started? Yeah there was that and then there's the great game with the United States and Slovenia where they didn't give him a goal for some unknown reason and they actually fired the ref after the fact but they still didn't get the goal. It's not as though Oh, this ref is corrupted, let's fire him and give them the gold. No. So there's obviously, I mean if you think about it, you have, especially in Africa where one time when I was in Kenya, we were going through Kenya which is a horrible place. And the airport especially, I mean there were literally soldiers in the terminal because they had to stop for refueling or something in Nairobi. Oh yeah, sure.

36:48 So I stopped in Nairobi, everybody got out of the plane. Somebody stole my... I left some audio cassettes. This was a while ago when I was still flying around with audio cassettes. Somebody stole them. And I pointed this out and they finally caught the guy or something before we took off. But I got a lecture from them. You know, one of these audio cassettes is like a worth a month's salary to these people. You have to be more careful with your stuff. Don't steal my shit. And then, but meanwhile in the terminal, a bunch of soldiers from the army were in there shaking down some of the people that were on the plane. Shaking them down. They're standing around, we gotta get back on this plane. This group of soldiers, it was like kind of, they surround somebody,

37:35 would be a not would return to the car but you're carrying a bunch of arms intimidating yes they come down they say we need some money from you can't go so so i it's a you would you take in money from the front of the basically empty the guys wallet let me give you a quick rundown here And actually I could go back to 95, three top UK soccer players, I'll just say soccer, were charged with taking bribes to rig results between 91 and 95. And this included the Zimbabwe goalie. John Fascia knew Aston Villa striker Hans Segers the goalie is the guy of court Why of course he's the guy then we have that's the money position You want to make money in soccer become a goalie and just sell out? 2005 in Germany a 2 million euro match fixing scandal was uncovered that was the ref who later confessed to fixing and betting on matches and

38:29 Numerous players, coaches and officials were accused of involvement with an organized crime group in the scheme which came on the eve of Germany playing host to the 2006 World Cup. In 2005 in Brazil, well of course Brazil, football match fixing was denounced because it was so rampant. In 2008 in Portugal, Porto president Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa stood trial for allegedly bribing a ref before the Portuguese Premier League match. May 2010, the head of the English Football Association, Lord Treisman, resigned his post citing he thought that the World Cup matches were in danger of being fixed. Link in the show notes to that story.

39:18 And of course, we just might want to point out that the guys who own some of the clubs which of course send their national players to these World Cup games are owned by Russians, oil oligarchs. I mean, come on! And then we all just sit there and say, yay, good match guys! Give me a break. Yeah, there's been two or three incidents in this World Cup already that are dubious and a lot of them involve the goalie. He would normally made that play. Oh, I can't believe it! He let the goal go in. Yeah. He went left when he should have went right. He's never done that before. You had an interesting thing about, because of course the Lakers won the, what do you call that? The league? The NBA championships. And we were having dinner

40:09 at the Euro Trash restaurant on Sunset, Le Petit Four. And this town goes crazy. And what's interesting is it's like Bentleys, Rolls Royces, Jaguars... On fire! No, no, not on Sunset. With flags in their windows and everyone's honking, everyone's going, yay, Lickers won, Lickers won! But then you see what happens in downtown LA and it baffles me When the when the Lakers win people go and cause fires and stomp on cars. I don't get it You saw that video Yeah, the video was by the way the reporting in on Los Angeles news media was exactly the opposite It was well, it was a really calm night. Nothing happened. It was you know, the police did a good job It was it was pandemonium

41:01 Pandemonium! What is that? Yeah, the videos on the blog for people who want to look it up. It's just a bunch of punks that don't even... These are Laker fans. These people have never even been to a game. They don't even know what basketball is. It's just an opportunity to wreck the place. I think that we're overdue, to be honest about it, and I think everyone out there should be concerned about this, for some serious rioting in this country. It's a cyclical thing, it happens on a pretty routine basis. And Los Angeles is rife, it's ready to go. I think it's the next Detroit. which happened in the late 60s in some of these ghettoized areas. And Los Angeles has got all the potential in the world to just go up in flames. In fact, it did during the Rodney King thing, which is just the tip of the iceberg for the kind of pent-up hostility that exists down in Los Angeles. And a friend of mine had a photo studio and everybody in one part of town where he knew all the neighbors, everybody was friendly, and they burnt his place to the ground.

42:04 And it's just, you know, it's a bad scene. And it's gonna, and something's gonna happen. I mean, if they go crazy like this over the Lakers winning. Yeah, I know. I can imagine if they had lost. Well, and when I look at the video, I just see a bunch of people who are completely frustrated about life or something, just life in general, or maybe being slaves or whatever it is. And by the way, if you see that video, most of the people were young adults. They were mostly Hispanic or actually Mexicans or Latinos, I'd say. That's a better word. And there was a bunch of Mexican flags being flown all over the place in celebration of them kicking the crap out of some, you know, junction box owned by AT&T.

42:55 Mean it just seems you know I'm telling you this is gonna be a nasty situation the same thing happened I think Mexico won a game in the World Cup and same thing Mexican flags out on the street people causing a ruckus and breaking shit and kicking box mailboxes and junction boxes and it's weird and I think it's just pent up anger and frustration and then they get some kind of somehow they think they have a free pass and you know they celebrate it and what? They do have a free pass. None of those guys ever get arrested. That's true. In fact that the report literally said no one was arrested. Yeah, you're right. It's a free pass I mean if you're a part of this group, you can look it's got the postings called idiotic Lakers fanatics right in LA If you're part of this group, and you know you can do this as a good it's as in so far as parties are concerned You know, this is one heck of a party. It sounds like it looks like it, you know, if you're not

43:54 accidentally targeted and beaten the crap out of you. If you're part of the group, it looks like you're having a lot of fun. You know, just busting windows wrecking the place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't get there's no consequence. Nobody does anything about it. And hey, Just look for the next opportunity. I mean, if they would do something, LA is, I don't know what their problem is down there, but it's a terrible place. So what is the cycle, John? How many years are we at? There's a 20 and a 40 year cycle for riding. this is documented somewhere? You can look at the big riots, but the last big riots were in the late 60s. No, no, no, wait a minute. We're overdue. We're at 50. The really great big monster riots were at the 50 year mark. This is like the Yellowstone cycle. We're overdue. So we had the Watts riots and then we had the Rodney King riot. You're saying that wasn't big? The Rodney King riot may have qualified as the riot in the cycle, but that was long enough ago. Then that cycle might be shorter. If whatever the case is, there's a riot

44:58 There's a riot due. It seems to me there's a riot waiting to happen. There's a riot a-coming. A big one. I gotta, I really gotta get me that generator. That along with the space storms, we're gonna be without power and fucked. At least I'm up here on the hill, you won't be able to go down. No, that's good because I can roll shit down onto people. No one can come up. I can boil oil, all kinds of stuff. It's better to be up in the hills there. That area you're in is probably immune to the riots unless they just take over the whole place and kill everyone. Yeah, well I got John Legend as a neighbor. He can just shred his guitar. He can turn the place into a riot party house.

45:39 No, I'm very happy I'm up here. I can see him walking out with your coffee machine now. Hey, hey, I got it man, I got it. Meanwhile, if you want to talk about Mexicans. ...today from the Pinal County Sheriff asking President Obama to send troops. Sheriff Paul Babiou says Mexican drug cartels now control parts of Arizona all the way up to Metro Phoenix. ABC 15's Mariella Resendez has his plea. A 911 distress call from two men shot in what investigators say is part of an ongoing battle between Mexican drug cartels and what is now known as the smuggling corridor. Drug cartels control this area and this is unacceptable. The local law enforcement cannot handle and stop this on our

46:28 on our own. Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babu says drug violence is far past the border, spilling into the communities. Hiking areas now have warning signs posted where military armed drug cartels are frequently photographed making drug deliveries to vehicles on Highway 8. We are outgunned, we are outmanned and we don't have the resources here locally for us to fight this. Five weeks ago, a Pinal County deputy was ambushed and shot as he tracked six drug smuggling suspects Several times the caller told operators to look for him where the sheriff had been shot. Some of the information he gave had not been released.

47:05 Sheriff Babu says the issue is too much for local law enforcement. What is needed truly is we're looking at 3,000 soldiers alone for Arizona. In Pinal County, Mary Ellen Resendiz, ABC 15 News. All right, nice. It's an invasion. Yeah, it is. They're running Arizona. I'm waiting for them to retake the Alamo. What happened to the Alamo? I don't know this history at all. Yeah, I'm not gonna explain it. The Alamo is just a symbolic place in Texas that went back and forth between the Mexico, the nation, and the United States. We're trying to... Texas was like an independent operation and then the United States wanted to get a hold of it, but then the Mexicans wanted to get a hold of it. The Mexicans took it at one point.

47:55 and they took the Alamo and then we took it back and you know I'd have to reread the whole thing because it's it sounds it is confusing a and I don't have it on the top of my head because it's just you know I just remember the Alamo yeah that's right he's supposed to remember the Alamo that's all I know just remember the Alamo I remember the Alamo too yeah you don't remember a thing do you no I do it's a very small place I thought it was bigger yeah well you don't know what it was about this is amazing I know it was about the border war between the United States and Mexico and who's going to end up with the ownership of Texas. Okay, so we got Texas and now they're taking Arizona. Yeah, well they'd like to get New Mexico, Arizona, California and Texas back.

48:38 and they apparently have already got the Hotel Del Coronado. But that's as far as they've gone. They have taken over the haunted room. So this show that Stossel did, and you texted me and so I watched it last night, and I have to say there were some gross inaccuracies when it came to Amsterdam. I was like, oh brother, this is a bunch of dickhead Americans thinking they know how it works in Amsterdam. I agree. Completely inaccurate. And the worst part about it was the propaganda that came out of Fox namely O'Reilly and Hannity who apparently had gotten into, had Stossel on and they got into an argument and Stossel of course is not a guy with a lot of stats at his you know beck and call. Well he had some stats, he had some charts which I found... Yeah and a couple of weenie charts that were... Quite unbelievable these charts. Yeah the charts were ridiculous but I mean if those charts are right which the Harvard guy says they are then it indicates that everything we're told is a bunch of bull crap.

49:39 The thing that got me is he literally was saying the percentage between people who try and there were two specific examples crack and heroin that the people who try it, and he had a chart, it was like 8 million people tried it and you know like 80,000 actually got hooked. I don't believe that. I mean it was like three, I think the number was 300,000. Okay, well. But it was a big differential. Well, the Harvard guy says it's true too and maybe it's because, and the Harvard guy, and I have the clip of it, He says that, you know, that we're just being brainwashed with a bunch of phony baloney statistics and this may be the reason that you don't believe that stat. Which clip is that? Well, I have them in order. I want them played. All right, let's do it.

50:26 Yeah, and you can interrupt because these are long clips. Okay. But this is the first one is I'll set it up. Stossel comes off of talking to Hannity and then brings on this Harvard guy to straighten out some of the bull crap that Hannity throws at him. They want in their lives. The problem is we don't hurt somebody else. It's predictable. It's a hundred percent certainty crack addicts will kill to get back that by the way made me laugh Crack addicts will kill yeah, you take some crack you go kill someone. Yeah, I mean and a hundred percent the science is a hundred percent hundred percent and he criticizes the climate science guy

51:05 That's the big fear and his arguments make sense to lots of people. Drugs are just different than alcohol. So let me ask Harvard economist and libertarian Jeffrey Myron. What about his claims? 100% the crack addict will kill. The claims that he was making, the claims that other drug warriors make are just such grotesque. This is the Harvard guy, right? Yeah. Exaggeration of the facts. It's hard to believe anybody can say them out loud. There are no data that support anything like that. Of course, some of the claims. I love a Harvard guy that says there are no data

51:41 He makes a couple of interesting flubs with his language. I mean, I'm no linguist, but you know, I heard I was like, what? There are no data to back up this. There are no data and is no data is actually debatable. Oh, really? Because it depends on whether you see where data refers to a plural or a singular. And I've heard that people try to do that usage before, but it's it's it's awkward and probably should not be executed. It feels bad, that's true. But of course they occur for alcohol as well as for the illegal drugs. They're basically just making up facts. They're cherry picking selective decisions. Oh, I thought you were saying something. No, alright. The crack addict will kill to get more crack. Crack has been out there for 25 years. It's available in every city. By the way, crack was introduced by the United States government. That's pretty well documented.

52:33 That was brought in by the CIA, the CIA literally sold it to the drug dealers. What was the guy's name again? Yeah, that guy in Baltimore, that character, which one are you talking about? No, this was the guy that actually blew the lid off of everything to Gary Weaver, that got him killed. Yeah, no, this is what Gary Weaver had uncovered. He was a journalist for the San Jose Mercury News, I want to say. Don't know but you're not talking about Gary Weaver the guy that got whose wife and kid got no I'm not Gary Weaver I'm sorry Who's the journalist? Don't worry. I don't know you can you can blog you can google it while we're listening Let me did you by the way notice in the stall so I don't have the clip of this But there's some kid some young guy came out and said well, what about the CIA smuggler? I know

53:22 He was like so what about the CIA selling drugs and running everything from Afghanistan and the guy and then the military guy goes like You know we're fighting a war and like yeah, I find that insulting that you didn't sin you wait And that guy was a dick, that military guy. He was mind-controlled. If it were going to cause that kind of violence, we would have basically seen everyone living in cities dead by now. Of course, that's not true. So those claims are just fanciful. And just to go back to that chart, I was impressed by this that if I had become convinced that crack was this special drug that really hooked people, but then what explains this? So what explains that is that lots of people try it, okay, and they realize it's either not that much fun, it's not that interesting, or they have some concerns about negative side effects, and they stop. Oh, dude, I'm really stoned, but I have some concerns about the negative side effects.

54:20 It was Gary Webb by the way, thank you Charlie. Right right right. Most people who are a dope smoker and you stopped out of the blue Yeah, I wasn't smoking crack though. No, but you know, I'm there's I don't believe everybody who's ever tried crack Not that I would ever recommend it to anyone is a terrible baking soda. It's coke and baking soda Well, it goes into it, but it's ingested as kind of it. It will give you a heart attack That is kind of a problem there. It seems to me. Yeah, it might be that's dude. That's one of the negative side effects It's not for me man. This crack is not working We use all sorts of risky things in their teens and early 20s Stop doing them for lots of things as they get older Sean Hannity said the Dutch marijuana use after Holland legalized it Stop they've never legalized it

55:08 incorrect It's not legalized. Not legalized. It was 250% from 84 to 92. I didn't catch his time period when he said that to me, but... So his time period doesn't correspond to when they actually liberalized their policy. Their use rates have indeed gone up and down, but they're currently about half the use rates in the United States, even though they have virtual legalization and we have this draconian policy. So I will agree with that, having grown up... No, he said virtual legalization. The Harvard guy is right there. But I will say... Liberalizer policy, virtual legalization is what it is. And I will say that they've had the same policy for alcohol, which is also not that big of a problem. You can still to this day, as far as I know, walk into a bar when you're 15, you look like 16, you'll get a drink, there's no ID check, etc. It's not a big deal and because it's not a big deal,

56:02 It's not a big deal. It's like, so what? You know, we can't know. In fact, I remember there was a news show uh... it is six canada even in nordic countries are fairly liberal with the these kinds of rules and regulations and there is a show i remember watching on the news it was some showing some kids i guess is dad was like a drunk or some god and get me another six pack and so this kid who is twelve years old he's in norway oslo or something goes into the grocery store buys a six pack and brings it home to his dad And it's like the American news media. What a scandal! The kids not drinking it. But you know what I always found was really smart in in Holland is and that's still the same it is very hard to obtain a driver's license. So you have to be 18 none of this 16 bullcrap and I don't think you're responsible enough when you're 16 anyway. But also you don't really need necessarily to drive because there's plenty of trains

57:04 But most people fail on their first attempt to get their driver's license. You have to take lessons, at least I think it's... Most people take at least 20 hours, some 40 hours, some are on the program for years, and it's very hard to get a driver's license. And I've always thought that was kind of an interesting counterbalance to the policy of, look, it's no big deal. It's just no big deal. And the policy has been pretty much the same for heroin. And Holland of course is a total transport country so they're transporting the shit everywhere and they don't want to blow up their own system. A lot of people making money off of it. But because it's not a big deal I just don't think the problem's there. So I have to agree if that's libertarian then I'm there. Yeah it is.

57:53 What's the second clip? Oh, that was the end of the clip? Nah, I've got 30 seconds. Doesn't support his claim at all, just the opposite. So even though Holland's this place where all the American tourists go because they can smoke marijuana... By the way, it's the British tourists that go there and get fucked up, not the Americans. Americans too, but it's the Brits. They make weekend trips of it. ...worry about the cops. Fewer Dutch people smoke than Americans. And in particular, Dutch youth don't smoke nearly as much as American youth seem to do. If it were legal, More people would try stuff right I suspect lots of people would occasionally try it or would be curious But the vast majority wouldn't continue if they really were curious if they really cared They would already be using it because it's easy to get if you have any serious interest So why is this a video? It ended so Is that the end yeah, or I got cut off no that was the end no so

58:51 you know the thing is really behind this whole drug war deal is that is the i used to work for the air pollution control district now it's the air quality management whatever and uh... i went to uh... i was at the university of california and i would in the library doing some research and i would have we was going to some government documents and i ran into the original uh... legislation for the establishment of the air pollution district which was a pick i fries as if i recall right was done in nineteen fifty five this is i think right after that london fog incident did in the fifties everybody was you get got really concerned about air pollution and so they these things are cropping up everywhere and it was very clear in the original law that the agency was to be created for a period and i did i don't remember the exact number but it had a limited life that was either fifteen or twenty years and then they were going to close it

59:49 So in other words, by 1975 it should have been out of existence, but it not only stayed in existence, but got bigger and bigger and bigger and now they're dealing with carbon dioxide and how can we stay in business doing this? The DEA, once it was created, you created a monster, you can't get rid of it. They're gonna put up phony stats, they're gonna do anything they can to stay in business. Cops like the overtime and the whole thing is a fiasco. Yeah, there was a lot of that. I don't know if we should play all of it. This second clip is really short, 30 seconds. Is that some gem you've got here? No, the good clip is the last one that's long. Because it talks about the thing that really bothers me, which are these SWAT teams. Yeah, let's play that. Apparently we have 100 SWAT

1:00:38 raids a day in this country SWAT teams were you know special weapons and tactics was set up for you know for anti-terrorist and real anti-energy guys they should be blowing up guys making browns gas It was set up for a specific purpose, paramilitary operations that cost a lot of money to maintain. And so now they have to find some rationale for staying in business when they should be, most of them should be dissolved. We don't need all these military, you know, looking operations within police departments and these tanks and crazy things that they buy. Not just looking, they're trained. They're military trained. Yeah, they're military people. Well, they're trained as military. And then they're going around

1:01:19 Well, play that clip, just that last clip. The police are about to break into a house in Columbia, Missouri. They believe there's a large supply of marijuana here. Inside, a couple is putting their seven-year-old son to bed. They kill one of the family dogs, injure the other. They didn't find that large supply of marijuana. They just found a little, so they levied a $300 fine and charged the father with child endangerment.

1:02:06 They never apologized for killing the family dog. They wouldn't even say sorry. The dog was aggressive and the dog got shot. Two years ago, cops burst into his home in Maryland and shot his two dogs. And this was because FedEx had delivered a package with marijuana. We actually did that story when it happened. You remember that? Yeah. I don't remember the part that the guy was the mayor. Yeah, he was the mayor. That was the crazy thing about it. Exactly. And the police, when they burst into our home, had done so little investigation, they didn't even know I was the mayor of the town.

1:03:08 You were the mayor of the town. It wasn't your own police. It was a county SWAT team, but they, an errant SWAT team burst in the door, rifles blazing. They shot our two dogs, Peyton and Chase, one from behind while he was running away. And they tore our house upside down in a four-hour nightmare. So this was a mistake. Well, I remember distinctly as I kneeled there on the floor, bound, my own living room floor at gunpoint thinking it was a mistake. But as I looked into it further, I learned it's business as usual. They to this day say the guys did what they were supposed to do. Even though we were innocent, even though it made international headlines, it was an embarrassment for the county, it was the right thing to do.

1:03:53 And, Radley, this has become business as usual in America. Yeah, I mean the raid that we just saw... I'm sorry, did you just say stop it? Yeah, you can stop it. I mean, I think it's pretty, you know, obvious what's going on here. Yeah, the federal, the federal government work on the topic. They don't they can't do enough to even, you know, check on this guy was the mayor. They obviously are careless. They don't need to be careful because nobody cares. Nobody's responsible. Nobody gives a crap and nobody's ever held accountable. And it's the federal government who are out of control. I mean this is not states. This is not states. It's the federal, this is what you see in California. And by the way, it was funny, the douchebag from, like the pro, the neo-prohibitionists,

1:04:46 He, um... He said that there are more pot houses in Los Angeles- more pot dispensaries in Los Angeles than there are Starbucks and McDonald's. I'm like, oh yeah, I'd like to see those stats, motherfucker. That is so not true. That is absolutely not true. And then the best... You know, that guy lied through his teeth, which really bothers me. In fact, the DEA is lying about statistics, which is obvious, and this guy's lying through his teeth with all kinds of assertions that were just off the wall. You know, the guy should be ashamed of himself, and this whole movement

1:05:23 That's trying to stop. You know what's what Stossel is talking about you know in California of course we have the marijuana initiative coming up which will be hilarious because Hopefully it'll pass and then they'll be these court cases and the feds will come in and there's gonna be all kinds of things going on It's just it's just pathetic. It's just a pathetic situation what I found the best clip is which we don't have a clip of unfortunately, is when one of the audience members said, hey listen we had alcohol prohibition in this country and the only way to do that was to amend the Constitution. That got overturned. How come there's no amendment to the Constitution for

1:06:07 Drugs and of course the question was not answered. No the guy refused to even address it He went on and on with all kinds of statistics and how important it is that was the same douchebag who lied about the Starbucks and McDonald's and The fact of the matter is he couldn't answer the thing is it's a federal that's why the state of California can pass this law because the states do have the opportunity to do whatever they want. If they have the guts to do it, because we're seeing a solid movement in this country against states' rights. The fact of the matter is this country is set up so each state can do most of the legislative activity for the people that live within its boundaries, but you have this concerted effort, especially by the left,

1:06:52 to make a national government that hangs over everything. That's why they have protests in California about Arizona and its laws. What does California have to do with it? Nothing. So as we move into our second hour for today's program, John, a quick note about change.org. Have you ever looked at this website? No. So I'm not quite sure Well, it feels very Obama-esque, obviously. It being named change.org. Actually, I didn't do a who is on it. I should do that real quick. It's set up by... It's always tough to find out who's behind these things, but you go to aboutusachange.org. Ben Rattray is the founder... You want this to have an Obama look? Yeah. He's the founder and CEO. And there's Mark Demos. That name sounds familiar.

1:07:56 But there's no like real profiles of these guys and it's kind of it's oh this this is the limited public profile for mark He's the fucking ceo or the what is he? CTO limited profile anyway, so it looks like a bunch of Silicon Valley Obama nuts and They had so what this website does is it helps you set up petitions which makes me feel like it's even more an Obama thing and And then these petitions I guess are sent in. So here it is. This petition to fully fund NPR and PBS, better known as... Our National Treasure! Targeting the US Senate and US House of Representatives sponsored by Credo Action. And I guess so you can make groups on this change.org.

1:08:46 And here's their pitch. The United States has one of the lowest funded public media systems in the developed world. The federal government allots only $1.43 per person each year to maintain the system. That much? Compared to more... That's only part of their budget. You're talking about $300 million already going into PBS. Is that what they're saying? More! More! It's like $500 million. Well, they should stop it. That's a waste of money. Let them find their own. They've got sponsors. They've got advertising. Why don't they just act like any other broadcaster? Well, let me give you their pitch.

1:09:25 The Public Broadcasting Act was passed over four decades ago. It led to the creation of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, PBS and NPR, but today only 20% of the operation of public media is actually underwritten by the federal government through the CPB, forcing media outlets to increasingly rely on corporate underwriters for support. Funny that to make matters worse the 20% of funds. Oh, well, by the way, you let me ask you the question Let's say they got more money from the government. Do you think that underwriting would go away? Nah, of course not So here's the petition text which you are then supposed to send to your representative. Dear Representative, I urge you to fully fund NPR and PBS. Now more than ever we need a vibrant public media. Corporate media fails to produce the truth-telling journalism we need to help citizens and politicians make decisions crucial to the safeguarding of our democracy. Sign your name here.

1:10:21 And I'm like, wow, how can you actually, if you know anything about journalism, like Journalism 101, which I did take in my three months of college, you know that you cannot have a good journalistic media if it's funded by the government. It's perpendicular to the whole concept. And here they are, change, oh, let's change the world, let's make it a better place. They have this page of writers. Did you look at the change.org team? No. Yeah, no I did, no I did. That's what I'm saying. It's got all these photos. Yeah, but there's no biographies. And the guy's chairman and CEO, so the guy's clearly, is it for profit? Is it not for profit? Let's see, registered. Ben Ratray. It's registered to Ben Ratray, yeah, so he's the CEO, change.org, 709 Douglas Street, San Francisco.

1:11:29 and Jeffrey Westcott. So it doesn't really say much. He's got a Facebook page. But you know to get the URL change.org I think that you know you probably have some ties. That's not just one it's just real easy to go out and get. No that's not even close to being easy to get that had to be locked down. And how are these guys funded? Well, that's the question, isn't it? Yeah, but I've looked everywhere. Especially all those writers. Maybe I should get a job there. They've got like a thousand writers. Well, they're hiring, John. What are they writing? They're hiring. How many people do they need? Here, they're hiring. Oh my gosh. Look at all this. Look at all these. Oh, well, if you can do Ruby on Rails, but they're hiring bloggers.

1:12:24 criminal justice editor, an education editor, a global poverty editor, health editor, human rights editor, race in America editor. Wow, we could get a gig there. Anyway, I guess the whole point of bringing this up is this is exactly how it's not supposed to work and you're right, if they're getting $500 million and if it's really about bringing good stories, do you really need that much money? Is that really necessary?

1:13:04 Seems so now we've taken a little different stance on this program now. Yeah, we don't get the 500 million dollars. No No, we don't But we do have a lot of people who support us who understand what we're trying to do What we're attempting to do and in some cases we're succeeding and we are just unfortunately We don't really spend our time going out and investigating stories not that we be any good at that necessarily But the media is so broken that we spend all of our time punching holes in it So people understand that what's being shoveled up to them as news is not actually news and a lot of that comes directly from Brought to you by the US government

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1:18:35 And you're supposed to... Oh, yeah, it's another project of mine. What is that? He'll give another 50 bucks if I post all my old BoardWatch recipes. BoardWatch? Oh, yeah. When I was writing for BoardWatch magazine, I would put these recipes up. What was BoardWatch? You looked at BBS systems or something? Yeah, that's how old this was. Oh my God. Oh, wow. The guy sold off for 25 million bucks, and that was the end of it so But yeah, I had these recipes like the famous flank steak recipe that people rave about but I have a whole bunch of you know the thing is that I there's a there's a little cache of them that I know I did I can't you can't find my mm-hmm, but I have about 20 of them probably on a memory stick somewhere and

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1:22:33 It was, you know, C-Span. Were you on crack? Yes, because I was on crack. You had to go out and kill somebody, not doze off. So I woke up to a reality TV show that was the worst thing I've ever seen, and I have three clips I want to play. First, let's play clip number one. The show is called Pretty Wild, and it involves a girl who apparently does nothing but cry for half an hour. Can I just say something? This show is taped in our street. No, yes, this is in our street This is the girl who was arrested as part of the bling gang who stole three million dollars from? From Hollywood celebrities like Paris Hilton and Justin Timberlake. They were a bunch of you know well to do Los Angeles punks

1:23:24 Douchebag kids and they actually use Twitter and and other social networks to find out when these celebrities would be out of town Would break into their homes. Yes, and they and they stole, you know jewelry but also like Paris Hilton's underwear And they were caught on CCTV camera And this girl in particular who still denies, but I think she copped a plea bargain so she's gonna go to jail for like 60 days. But she made a whole reality show out of it called Pretty Wild and it is taped right up the street! It's disgusting. It's so bad, like I want to watch it but I can't and then I have to and it's like, it's... Do we just, do you need set up for this first clip? Just play it, there's nothing to set up. I want to tell them that I didn't do anything. And that I feel bad and that through all of this I think that...

1:24:17 I was meant to bring truth to this situation. Truth to all the people who lost their belongings and you probably feel so violated. I know I would. But it's not fair. The positive energy that comes from good choices is really powerful. It's a hundred times more powerful than a negative thought. That's what they say in The Secret. They just realize that like even if you are innocent, it's the people that you surround yourself with. Good. I'm glad you realized that. Good choices versus... So, they've got this douchebag lawyer. Wait a minute. On the show. Wait, stop. I know all about this show. Yeah, but what is The Secret?

1:25:02 What do you mean? Positive energy is ten times more powerful blah blah blah. That's what they say in the secret. In the secret. This whole thing is so fake. What is this a cult? Yes. This mom is a complete creep. She's horrible. She should be locked up. She's exploiting these kids. And the funny thing is, they're renting this house and they're only there when they shoot episodes. They don't actually live there but when you watch the show it's like oh we're at their house. But they're not. It's a rental up the street here. Oh really? Yeah, they just go in and when you really look at the interior shots you can see that they've got like temporary clothing racks and stuff. Once you really start to pay attention to it you see it. But it's a rented house. It's one of these houses that is used by Vivid Entertainment normally. I'm reliably informed. Hubba hubba. Yeah, and so they just rent it out whenever they're gonna shoot.

1:25:56 And that's it. It's good. We talk about the lawyer, which I could have some clips of him, but you might as well play pretty wild too, because at the end of it, they go to a commercial and there was a kind of a crying sobbing moment at the very end of the short clip that we have to cut out and use in all our other clips. It's unbelievable. I was like my best dream. Honey, look. This too shall pass. You're going to be able to do it another time in the future. But you know what? These are the consequences of hanging out with stupid people. That's some good s***. I'm not going to show. I know. This is bulls***. We're going to support your sister. Please just leave me alone. I don't want to go. Don't tell me I'm going to go. It's going to be okay. No, just leave me alone.

1:26:53 That's good. Let me see if I can mix it up here. Hold on a second. Yeah, so this douchebag lawyer who was the one who got her the reality show, because this is what it's all about. And you know, it's, it's, she's the kids on antidepressants. You know, they, it's all set up right. There's, ugh. And it's a Ryan Seacrest production, I might add. Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah, he should be ashamed of himself which brings me to the Bernie Goldberg clip that I have here where he does a rant Who's Bernie Goldberg Bernie Goldberg's a former ABC correspondent very famous if you saw his face you say oh god I've seen this guy a million times He quit he gave up on the mainstream media and went to work probably getting more money from Fox it turns out He's a you know a right-wing

1:27:54 character with a lot of opinions and he does these little segments on the O'Reilly report once in a while and he's absolutely, I think it's O'Reilly, one of those guys, he's absolutely fascinating because his opinions are based in old media and they come together and he's extremely irked by these reality TV people. The story to reality TV, we don't, now the father says he didn't sell it The production company is running away, we can't get to them. But there was apparatus, they were shooting it, there were this, there were that, so you got to feel that there was something in play here. But let's just put that aside for a moment. A lot of people are angry with these parents. Number one. 16 year old girl, unattended, 40 foot boat, trying to sail around the world. Child abuse? Child, what do you think?

1:28:46 Yeah, you know, you can make that case. I think the problem with reality shows is that they cheapen the culture. In this particular case, Bill, nothing counts. What culture? What culture? I agree with him. I think they cheapen the culture. The existence of these shows has cheapened the American culture what little that we have. How much cheaper can it get? It is our culture. This is like, this is the same thing as why we eat McDonald's on the airplane, which is another disgusting part of our culture.

1:29:23 Nothing matters, not even a 16 year old girl getting in a relatively small vote to take a voyage around the world. It doesn't count unless it's on television and you can cash in on it. For some people, life itself doesn't count unless they're on television making money. The Kardashians come to mind on that one. But none of this, none of this comes close to the worst reality show in the history of television which is still on right now and that's the Maury Povich show. Every day or almost every day he has a stupid woman on who got pregnant by some stupid guy and they do a paternity test. She says he's the father, he says no my cousin's the father. It cheapens the culture. Maury Povich because of this is the

1:30:14 the most despicable human being, and I use that term loosely, ever to appear on television. He's worse than Springer. This is the kind of stuff... He makes Jerry Springer look like he's the host of Masterpiece Theater. I mean, he makes Jerry Springer look decent by comparison. Moripovic is the... I hope he's watching or hears about this. He is the absolute worst piece of garbage in the history of television because that stuff cheapens the culture. People humiliate themselves so that they can get on television. It's despicable. There are a couple of things in play here, but I do want to get back to Abby Sunderland for a moment because this is a girl who is brave. You have to be brave. Who's resourceful. She gets all the way to the Indian Ocean by herself in a 40-foot boat.

1:31:04 And yeah, she is confident that she can do it. She almost died. I don't think people understand how close she came to leaving this planet. I mean, the boat fell apart, mass crashed, all her emergency equipment crashed, and she was lucky. Lucky. You know, let me just say something. There's two there's two topics here John one is reality television I think we're probably gonna agree on that when it comes to the conversation about it being child abuse for this father To allow push. No, I'm actually with I am actually with you on this but the problem I have is that

1:31:43 This idea, because I guess this girl is a sailor, obviously came about because a girl in Australia... Her dad has a sailing shop and a camp and it's a sailing family. Right, but the girl in Australia came from a sailing family and she went around the world, completed hers. She's the same age, 16, so they obviously gave somebody the idea that, well, you know, our daughter can do that, maybe we make her into a TV show. The other girl obviously didn't have a TV show, but she got a lot of... But the thing is I've listened to interviews with both these girls and the Australian girl is sharp as a tack. She is extremely bright and she's quick-witted and she's actually an amazing person to listen to and she jokes about the fact that now she can get her driver's license. The other girl seems like a dimwit.

1:32:30 I have not seen either one of them interviewed but I do know that if you want to, if that is child abuse then how about parents who put their 10 year old kids on horses? You know, hey go ahead, horses are, the whole equestrian sport is dangerous, people get severely... injured. But you know it's always like oh hero horse race, Olympic sport. You've got parents who put their kids in in skelter races you know the precursor to the formula. I understand. I think they back off on the idea. I mean that's just O'Reilly being you know provocative. But that's a big part of the conversation is people say oh it's child abuse just because of the reality show.

1:33:14 And I I think that's dubious whether it's you know, it's like oh we'll do a reality show go get some fame kid You know, I don't know man. It's like what are we worried about? Yeah, the Chinese farmers send their kids off to Foxconn to go work 18 hours a day when don't we don't seem to have a national debate about that You know, it's very common around the world for parents to send their kids off and go make some money. In fact, it used to be that way in this so-called civilized Western world. Yeah, you'd be working in a factory when you're 12. Yeah, yeah, shut up and go make some bricks. Carry some bricks, kid. That's what it was. Or go out there and, you know, Thailand, you know, go prostitute. This happens all over the place. But the reality show format, and I'm a student of television, of course,

1:34:05 And the real world was, for all intents and purposes, the first reality-based show, which I consider to be a reality show. The Maury Povich show is in the reality genre. I would say Sally Jessie Raphael came before that. And we used to share studios with her in New York, and boy, there were a lot of creeps coming through. But it is Human our culture is to watch that I see the most intelligent people watching this crap I don't see any intelligent people watching it. I don't watch it I can't watch Paul. I saw Povich once and I thought the show was ridiculous. You're hyper intelligent. Yeah, right doesn't count No, I'm talking about normal intelligent people don't watch this crap is this for is for beer swilling kind of

1:34:53 people that would be on the show. I mean, one of the things I was told, which is about somebody who was involved with the Springer show, is that they have a fee schedule. And everybody gets paid a certain amount of money based on what they do. And in fact, it's like 50 bucks if you stand up, you get 25 bucks if you make a threatening motion. Apparently you get like a hundred or fifty bucks or some amount of money for taking a shoe off and threatening somebody with it. And it's the only show, if you haven't noticed, it's almost like code. It's the only show you've ever seen anyone take a shoe off

1:35:29 and they're always taking their shoes off on the show because they get paid an extra amount of money for taking the shoe off. I'm not that in-depth into it and apparently you have watched the show. I think the Jerry Springer show is hilarious. I don't watch any of it. I haven't watched it for a number of years and I did get this guy saying you sign a non-disclosure like on all these reality shows then you can't tell anybody about what's really going on behind the scenes you can't you know so nobody ever comes out and This guy told me he said he says the main reason many of these people do these shows they come out and humiliate themselves is because they Genuinely believe that they'll be discovered in a movie. Yes, they'll become famous. Absolutely That is the culture that is the Paris Hilton

1:36:16 Now she had some good money background to start with, but how did she become famous? I haven't forgotten, she started by a sex tape. And then we've got Perez Hilton, who started his celebrity blogger fame by naming himself in a manner that sounded like Paris Hilton, and it was very brilliant. It was, very good. This whole culture is built on that. And then we've got the What's her name? Kim Kardashian and she's with the with the basketball player or his football player. I think it's a football player. I don't know. Who cares? You know, and it's it's like I can't watch that show at all. You know what? It's it's it's the extension of lifestyles. It's it's coming into lifestyles of the rich and famous, which a lot of people probably have never heard of before. But it used to be a show that I think a lot of America. Why am I shouting? I'm Robin Leach.

1:37:13 Alright, moving on to another topic. Robert Leach was on a show recently by the way. He's chubbed out enormously. Oh really? He was always kind of chubby. Yeah, but now it's more... And in the reality format, let us not forget, rest in peace, Morton Downey Jr. Yeah, that was a confrontation. That was an interesting experiment that I think a lot of people learned a lot from. It was very compelling. It was confrontational. Of course he was stoned on amphetamines. They got them all, you know, jacked up to go on there and scream at people. But before that, there was Joe Pyle. No, I don't remember that show. Joe Pyle predates all these guys. He goes way back. And then there's Wally, that guy, the Wally, whatever his name is, show. There's a bunch of these characters that have come and gone. They all make a lot of money. They sure make more than we do. Fuck yeah. So I've been noticing something kind of weird in Los Angeles now that I live here.

1:38:13 There's these police officers who ride around a lot on segways. At first I thought it was like there was some kind of like traffic watch. Paul Blart, mall cop. No, it's actually bid police. The bid police. Have you ever heard of this? The bid police? I never heard of the bid police. Exactly. So... I've never seen or noticed sometimes you do on a daily basis there's all these police agencies like within one jurisdiction there's the state cops, the feds, there's the county, there's the city. Well get this, so these bid police who have guns and they and they have badges and they have police uniforms and on the back of their uniform it says bid police

1:39:03 So the word police is there and then bid and so yesterday we're driving back from the movies and BID. Is it got dots? Is it B dot I dot? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it should have dots but it doesn't it just says bid and I'm like that must be some kind of like traffic thing or whatever but you know they got guns and they're riding around on hyped up segways and like what is this? It is the business improvement district police and this is something yes and this is something very new. or relatively new I should say. Mall cops? No, well if only it would have stated that but they are not actual police. They are rent-a-cops set up by the in this case the Los Angeles Business District and it is their mission

1:40:02 Officers are focused on the immediate response to major crimes and these crimes so their entire mission is to assist in building relationships between local citizens and the private security companies who deploy these bid police officers. I know but they're not real cops this is what bothers me but they patrol the streets and they interact with civilian slaves like they are the cops. And it's kind of frightening. Bid police! Bid police! Yeah. They've got the bid patrol. Sir, move over! Yeah. Bid police. So they're mall cops except they got guns. Well, mall cops have guns. They do? Yeah, a lot of them. Paul Blart didn't.

1:40:52 Paul Blart couldn't be trusted with a gun. So in the Hollywood Entertainment District, the bid patrol officers do more than... How can you be an officer? You're not an officer! It's the misnomers that bother me. You're not police. You are not the police. You're just not. You're a rented dude. They provide more than just a presence, they become members of the community. As members it's necessary for the officers to not only make arrests, but to also find alternative and permanent solutions to the problems in the area. For example, several quality of life issues in the Hollywood Entertainment District, this is Hollywood Boulevard,

1:41:32 Involve the homeless population. Homeless violators who experience frequent arrests can often create a revolving door effect rather than a lasting resolution to the problem. As a remedy, Bit Patrol officers have initiated close working relationships with several of the community's homeless outreach programs. When appropriate, officers provide direction and program referrals. Yeah. Hey! Hey, homeless douche! Get out of here! Get away from that shop window! I'll arrest ya! And they've also become involved with juvenile runaway shelters in order to direct juvenile citizens to organizations that will offer them help. Okay, Adam, you take the boys shelter and I'll take the girls shelter. I'm telling you. So I don't like it. It feels a bit scary to me. No, it's disgusting. Then a Father's Day story. The New York Times came out with a baffling piece

1:42:37 Interestingly enough in their fashion and style section where there is a movement in our scholastic system. We're still waiting for your big report John on schooling. Any minute. Yes and the movement is to break up kids who have best friends. This is apparently blogged. Oh you blogged it? Yeah. Oh yeah. So the story is that the scholastic system I'm generalizing feels that best friends is not a good idea and they should be separated. Because kids need to interact with each other. Now since when did this become the school's responsibility? Well that's the big question. They want kids to be more group oriented. They want them to be responsible to the group. It's a very socialist kind of a thing. Instead of having a friend that they can rely on, they should rely on the group. The group of people. And you know, it's collectivism. Give me a break. And it started with some hinky dink school

1:43:40 by this one woman who must be getting a lot of flack, because this has been blogged by everybody. Christine Leacob, she's the director of counseling at the Mary Institute and St. Louis Country Day School in St. Louis. We try to talk to kids and work with them to get them to have big groups of friends and not be so possessive about friends. Parents sometimes say Johnny needs that one special friend, she continued. We say he doesn't need a best friend. Yeah, it's baffling to me. It's not baffling to me.

1:44:23 This is part of a movement to kind of destructure, deconstruct the culture and get it so it thinks more in terms of like, you know, group benefits. Collectivist. There's been a huge push against individualism in this country. And individualism, if an individual wants to have a best friend, it's his or her business, it's nobody else's, nobody should be discouraging it or encouraging it. They should just let it be instead of budding in I Can't wait for your big report on the scholastic system John. That's a mess. It's gonna be All right, and then I got one thing I by the way I want to play with something at the end of the show at the after we're done mm-hmm which I want to recommend is playing in the over the next week or two Robert Klein who's a

1:45:15 you know, as a funny comic. He used to have shows, but he's the one who was in them. Do you remember the movie War of the Roses? Yes, yes. Where the two, the husband and wife, just destroyed each other. I'm in that movie, by the way. Okay. Robert Klein was actually, it was modeled after the marriage between Robert Klein and Elaine Boosler. to really i think i didn't know that that was modeled after that okay and this is like michael douglas and uh... catharines ada jones no uh... and i know some of the actress like a review reviewer anyway it's a great movies hilarious but it's but client who said some people in a mad is apparently did you know that the nicest guy in the world but i have to say x very very talented comic but he'd be c does a song

1:46:04 During his act called medical marijuana. I want to play it and people should go see the HBO Special he was the first guy to do an HBO special right curiously and It's quite amusing okay, so we'll play that right after the closing credits of the show And I only have one other clip that's worth listening to besides besides the who are you clip and uh... which is the just a piece of a play that people is the yeah that was the is that the congressman yes i don't know if he was drunk or not what he was he had to be plastered but he grabs these kids these so-called college kids which i don't know if they were not a good but he grabs them he's holding onto the buys the scruff of the neck

1:46:59 You know, who are you? Shut up slave! It's like the most elitist... it's an uncomfortable thing to watch. It doesn't really work in audio. But when you see the video, it's just like, oh my god! Very bad, yeah. Oh wow, it's like, shut up slave! Who are you? Who are you? Shut up, kid! And the kids were like, we're college students. This is a project. This is a college project. Which I doubt, by the way. No, I think it was a phonyed up too. Yeah, I agree with that. But it's still, I don't think they expected it to work so well. No, it was like jackpot. Perfect. What a jackpot that was for sure. Anyway, but I do have something, you know, people always wonder, you know, one of the complaints I have about tech reporting

1:47:41 uh... is that there's no uh... critical thinking there's no doubt honesty uh... and his and much of what passes for journalism is booster ism and i'm so i'm flipping around i cut the g four uh... i think it was the tack of the show or one of these things on the g four and i can i took this little clip uh... which is a guy who is reviewing in non-released product kind of with the guy who wrote the product I guess and he's so giddy and so boosterish over the whole thing that I found it actually disgusting. They're varied, you know, from classic dungeons, you know, we try to present ourselves as a dungeon crawl, there's lots of dungeons, but outdoor areas like you're seeing in this demo and wilderness areas and towns as well. I'll show the engine can render them beautifully and clearly you guys are taking advantage of it. The game looks incredible. Very excited. Hunted the Demon's Forge, when do we get to play it? When do I get it? When do I convince my friends to buy it?

1:48:33 We're shipping first quarter next year. Sounds good, thank you so much. Woohoo! Yay! First quarter next year, yay! It's awesome! When do I convince my friends to buy it? The thing isn't going to be out for almost a year. He doesn't know what the game is any good or not. What do you mean convince his friends to buy it? I'm going to predict that somewhere in the next 18 months there will come an expose revealing the incredible scam that is rampant throughout the tech industry, the tech reporting industry, and dare I say it, the online advertising industry. I saw that Facebook, there was a report, and of course it's still a private company, the report is that they had revenues, their last annual revenues were estimated between 800 million and a billion dollars. Now John,

1:49:34 I don't know how that works. It cannot be from people clicking on banners. I just don't think it works. I just, I don't believe it. It's horseshit. Who clicks on banners? Do your kids click on banners? Mine doesn't. Do you click on banners? I haven't clicked on a banner for two and a half years. And on Facebook? No, who's clicking on these banners? An 800 million dollars? I mean is that is it is that just from the display of banners? Yeah if you click on a banner it's worth probably like a dime maybe a nickel Penny clicks man penny clicks that that's what that's what it's down to so where is this revenue coming from? Where are these clicks coming from the only thing I can imagine is that people are sitting there? Clicking on something or watching a video because it'll get them some virtual broccoli for their farm bill Which is the which is what I think this whole? What's that zinga?

1:50:33 Is that the name of the company? I think that's how it works. You want broccoli, which is just the most ridiculous thing. You want some broccoli, then you got to click on this banner or watch this video, this ad before you can get it. That can't be a sustainable model. It doesn't make any sense. And I think we're gonna get some huge exposés because it's you listen to this clip and the tech industry is rampant I've seen drawings of people explaining exactly how the tech it used to be so great The executive would talk to the PR company PR company would pitch the the tech journalist the tech journalist write a story and everything was beautiful Everything flowed perfectly. Well, yeah, but that's that's PR that has nothing to do with actual, you know, like real journalism It doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned

1:51:24 It's pretty scant. Present company excluded. And you actually report, I feel honestly, on stuff. I've known you. You don't sign NDAs. You don't... Don't get invited to much. No. You're Bane. You're shunned. Who's this? I don't care. You're shunned. I'm shunned. Yeah, but you're also not wildly rich from it because you're not part of the game. Which reminds me we We didn't talk about the oil cabal and of course even though it is the hottest news story of the moment I did want to mention their PR company the PR company for BP. You know we love the PR companies and There's a little clip

1:52:14 The PR company is called Brunswick and they are the global PR company for BP. And I want you to listen because it all of a sudden becomes clear how these guys operate and how important public relations really is. I think it's the woman who you really want to listen to. First, the chairman comes on of this. What I think is always very valuable for clients about the type of business that we've tried to grow and to build is that we brought into the firm people who are passionate about communications. That's something we all share, but they come from many different walks of life. We are lucky enough to have in Brunswick people who have been top lawyers, people who have been top-rated analysts,

1:52:54 people who have been top journalists, whether that be print or broadcast, people who have been top communications professionals within companies, people who have been top of their game in the regulatory world or the public affairs world. And we bring that all into as powerful a mix we can for our clients and the issues they face. It's like, okay, so you leave public service as a regulator or you leave your broadcast journalism job and you go work for the PR company and then you essentially bribe your buddies into shilling for BP. It's a perfect system. It's beautiful.

1:53:36 It's stunningly beautiful and people have no idea how this works. Forget lobbyist groups, who gives a crap about lobbyists? That's a joke, it's these guys that have the real power. A thousand people around the world. That's because they they are because they essentially do the footwork and a lot of the you know for if like if I want a To do a story on something I can ask I can get a hold of the right PR people I can have them provide me with all kinds of stuff that I could would take me weeks to develop they'll do it and In hopes that they get you know positive

1:54:13 Play for their client who is related to something going on in the story. I had to I do have a funny story about this Which is another thing that ever endeared me much of the lot of the PR people although I had Latin good friends with many of them But the usually the women are kind of hot they always most of the women are fairly attractive and throw good dinners and Well, that's one thing I get invited to a lot of dinners because they know that I won't put up with a cheap meal. So I get invited to more dinners. Hey man, if you want Dvorak to blog about it, then you just gotta feed him right. That's how you do it, man. Come on. So mainly because the PR women get to go out to have a good dinner. I mean, it's a perfect world.

1:54:56 So when I was editor of InfoWorld, I used to play this very interesting, we had a, we could never stabilize the size of the publication. It came out every week. and it was thin and it was really huge and then it was medium. So there was so much fluctuation in the page count that I had to have a pile of stories ready to roll and I wish I kept in a huge pile under my desk in a stack. And so we'd say, oh my God, we got 50 pages to fill. I'd pull a bunch of these things out and throw them over to copy edit and they'd think I was a genius. But many of these stories I had developed by

1:55:35 public relations companies. What I would do is the following, and this is a good tip for anybody who wants to be an editor in an awkward situation. Although, I don't think you can do this forever, because at some point they're gonna figure it out. But I would call, like, every time a public relations person would call me, I would tell them, oh, what are your clients? Oh, you got the hard disk company? Oh, can you, I need a 2500 word article on the history of hard disks and how they came about and who the leaders are and what the best companies are. And then they would write this piece for me with a byline of whoever wrote it. I'd give them credit.

1:56:14 and then I would go in and edit it to take out all the references to their clients. Right. Of course, of course. And so, because I didn't want the thing to be a shill piece, and that was really good when you took out all that crap by the way. It was well written, so I threw it in and then of course you get a call when it ran a couple days later. How come you didn't mention our client? I couldn't, how come he wasn't mentioned? And then I would profusely apologize, by the way I used to do a lot of this on speakerphone with the staff in the room so they could watch this at much me at work i would have to profusely apologize and and say what can i do to make it up to you can you give me an article on on and i had requested other article just and you cut out all the all the time stuff again i could do that three or four times in a row with any beautiful beautiful yeah but it i'd say a good eighty seventy five percent of our news is p r pieces all yes all p r pieces or planted or or controlled by public relations agencies that were toast

1:57:12 So public relations agencies ever been involved in one word of this show correct this article though a nationwide alert John I'm surprised that we didn't do this at the top of the show the alert has gone out and I'm even more surprised that my iPhone didn't give me a push notification alert 17 members of the Afghan military who are being trained in an Air Force base in Texas to become pilots and have gone AWOL. Really? The Afghan officers, who are enlisted men, have security badges that give them access to secure US defense installations. According to the Lookout Bulletin, Afghan military deserters in continental US, written by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in Dallas. The BOLO Bulletin, which stands for Be On The Lookout, BOLO, was distributed to local and federal law enforcement officials Wednesday night.

1:58:20 The Afghans were attending the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas. The DLI program teaches English to military pilot candidates and other Air Force prospects from foreign countries allied with the United States. They went AWOL, they're missing, they can't find them, and they're pilots! Nope, bad things can happen. Very bad things can happen. This is what I would call the false flag waving is what this is. We even have the names and pictures of them. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I'm sure they're very identifiable No pictures actually Jesus that one of them's from born in 1987. Give me a break so just so you know bad things happen and then I'll keep a lookout and then it looks like It looks like we're gonna go to war with Iran

1:59:12 I don't think so. Well, I have three articles. You know, I made a bet with somebody about this, by the way, for last year going to war with Iran. I think it was a hundred bucks. It was somebody who might be listening to this show and I never got paid. I'll make a bet with you. I'll make a bet that between August and the end of the year there will be an attack on Iran. Not by the United States of America? Yes, by the United States of America. No. No? Will you take the bet? By the end of this year? Yes, by the end of this year. Let me think about how to say... We'll talk about it on the next show. I want to stage the bet so it has prescriptions. I don't want it just an open... You know, some guy goes in there with one lone gunman, goes in with a gun and starts firing away. I don't want to consider that an attack. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me think about how to do the bet. I'll give you an edge. Okay? I'll give you an edge.

2:00:03 With this report, an armada of 11 US warships and one Israeli vessel passed through the Suez Canal Friday. The fleet, the first of its composition to navigate the Suez Canal, was led by the USS Harry Truman carrier and its strike group of 60 fighter bombers and 6,000 seamen and marines. I would say that's a pretty good sign something is afoot. We'll talk about it on Thursday. I'll look into this. I don't think that there just could be, you know, a saber rattling. Well, the saber rattling comes from different places. Agent France Press, U.S. intelligence has shown Iran could launch an attack against Europe with scores or hundreds of missiles. Yeah, what a crock. But that's a last missile launch. I know it. It's it's all saber rattling. But to send the Harry Truman.

2:01:05 I don't know man, that to me sounds like something is a coming. And then the funniest thing ever, this just cracked me up, one of our producers sent this to me. Politico is, now how would you categorize Politico? Politico is a kind of a Washington DC centric insider tip sheet for people who are involved with politics mostly. So they have a video series. It's branded as a political video series reforming Wall Street. Now I'm going to send you this link. I don't want... it's too funny. Hold on. I'm going to send this to you in Skype. I'll also post it into the chat room so people can read along and laugh. All right.

2:01:57 You get the link? No. You sent me the link on the Adam Curry thing, now you're sending it on the other one? Yeah, I always send it. That's my... No, the last one you sent me, the last link... Oh, here it is. It's on Adam Curry. There it is. I don't know why it took so long. Now look at... It's Skype, man. Now you... Now tell me what you see that is very funny. Besides Barney Frank? Yeah, look above that. Reforming Wall Street, a Politico video series. Now have your eyes move to the right. Sponsored by Citibank. Yeah And then it's got the Citibank over here Citibank this three City Bank City Bank City Bank City Bank Do you think there's no there's no conflict of interest there none whatsoever? I Love it. I thought it was that was just hilarious. Sounds like a time to invest in Citibank. Yeah, meanwhile under the radar. Oh

2:02:51 Bloomberg is reporting that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which John you and I own 80% of at this point, is going to need a bailout. And the estimates are... Did they already get one? Oh yeah, no, no, it's going to need another bailout. But they do the other money. They ate it! Please! They estimate up to 1 trillion dollars Bloomberg is... Why don't they just give it to the public so we can pay these mortgages or get more loans? I mean, this is bogus. Of course it's bogus. It's another hijack and it's not even being talked about. Bloomberg luckily is on it. And they're saying Bloomberg's estimate is $500 to $600 million. But it could be as high as a trillion dollars according to Egan Jones Ratings Company in Pennsylvania. But you're right, it's atrocious.

2:03:51 Just and it just it's just it's just bailing out banks more for the for the rich elites That's that's the thing that is so sad. Hmm. So, all right, I'm not looking to change org in the meantime Yeah, let's see. Maybe one of our producers knows a little bit more about him but even just to get that website address I'd say is is It's quite a coup for a little company and I don't even think they're necessarily a nonprofit They have some nonprofit work And more companies coming out with bracelets. That's the business we should be in. Yeah, yeah. No, there's something coming because there's another company now that actually has a monthly subscription. So it sends off your data to the database. And this will be a part of the codex and the obesity and

2:04:52 And the scram bracelet says don't drink, don't smoke, eat healthy, exercise, be a good human resource. Lave. All right, on the next show we're going to talk about genetically engineered insects. Nice. That will be on Thursday. All right, happy Father's Day everybody out there to whom that applies. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West where June Gloom seems to be over early. I'm Adam Curry.

2:05:29 And it's sunny here too in Northern Silicon Valley and although there's not a lot of trains today, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday for early morning service right here on NO Agenda. I woke up this morning

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