Haiti: Genocide By Neglect

00:00 stating Barack Obama is possibly insane. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's April 11, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 1-9-0. This is no agenda. It's overcast here in SoCal because they've been chemtrailing again. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from the Buzzkill Lodge in the Pacific Northwest, I'm John C. DeBorah. It's Craig Vaughn Boomskill! In the morning! In the morning to you, my friend. In the morning to everyone listening. Yes, we have quite a plenty this morning. I actually tweeted it. Yes, I noticed. You went 3-2-1, I guess I'm supposed to reply tweet with hit it? Yeah, 3-2-1, let's wait five minutes. You know, the weirdest thing happened to me, um...

01:03 Yesterday morning was yesterday Saturday, right? Yeah, so it's five o'clock. Boom. I wake up I'm like bolt upright because I I hear people are calling me I swear to God is like someone's calling me Something's going on and and five o'clock is wait. Wait, wait, you mean calling on the phone? No, no, no, just no hearing nothing, right? There's no noise. I just I wake up. It's completely dark still I'm like, okay something must be going on and And I could just hear people calling me. And I look at my phone, my Twitter's exploding, I've got a million emails, and everyone's like, oh my god, look what happened, half the Polish government is dead. There's gotta be something happening. And I could feel it, I could feel people actually calling me. And so, yeah, so I got it. Did you just watch the Star Wars movie you did recently? Which Star Wars movie?

02:01 Will it blow up Alderaan? No. Oh, okay. Why? Nothing, it's a scene in the movie very similar to your experience. Oh really? No. It's just, it's the connection I have with our producers. So, let's talk about our executive producer, associate executive producer before we begin the show which will, I'm sure, discuss somewhat, at least for a moment or two, the tragedy in Poland. Just for a second, maybe. Or was it Russia? I think it was Poland. Well, no, the tragedy was in Russia, but it was half the Polish government, or let's call it important Polish people.

02:45 Not half the Polish government, but yeah. Good part of it. Our executive producer for today's show is Eric Eloma, E-L-O-M-A-A from Orange Park, Florida. who gave the magical amount of $3.30, $3.33 which will be headed for a knighthood. With no comment. Or a second. We do need to check because after three we kind of got to do a knighthood thing. Yeah, with a penny. Kenan Walker Watson from Kirkland Washington is our associate executive producer for with 200 and these two people can now use this on their resume you may continue. Kenan Walker Watson I like that that's a Kenan Kenan yeah Kenan that's it didn't I say that Kenan Walker Watson. You said Kenan again. Kenan Kenan Kenan like Kenan Ivory Wayans.

03:43 Yeah. Keenan. Yeah, Keenan Walker Watson. Right, but both the two times you said Keener. No, I did not. You understood Keener. No. You can listen to the tape later. No. So we have no PR associate, although I do want to mention two people quickly before we congratulate our executive producers, Alex Has started something called the no agenda report at no agenda report.com which is a guess is going to start writing a report and a guy who goes by the name of big dog has found a novel way to promote the no agenda show.

04:27 He has created a screen name and is apparently actively promoting it on adultfriendfinder.com The screen name is bigbuyguy1955 and apparently all that bigbuyguy1955 talks about at adult friend finder is John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry, so There you go. Yeah, as long as he's not hitting on us. So all of the new listeners from adultfriendfinder.com, welcome to the No Agenda Show. And we want to... You don't know man, that's a pretty, that's a big operation. Yeah.

05:09 Yeah, it is huge, but most of it is yeah, okay. No that hey come on those Any promotion is good promotion. I have a promotional idea. I'm gonna talk about later in the show so congratulations to Kenan Walker Kenan Walker Watson who is a sorry who was Associate executive producer you have that new controller when you blow on it. This is just you exactly Eric Aloma is our executive producer, so you guys are basically underwriting the show. We appreciate it. You can put it on your resume. It gets you lots of stuff. It is guarant- well not guarant- almost guaranteed to get you jobs and maybe a couple of chicks along the way. Please go out and apply our strategy. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Bill O'Reilly.

06:11 Shut up, Sleev! Hell yeah! So, um... Alright, now you probably, I assume that you got all over this airplane crash thing. Yeah, I did. Especially if you're hearing voices. I wasn't just hearing any old voices. I was hearing voices of the No Agenda Militia. So, I'd like to hear your take on it first. Besides it being an obvious tragedy, what was your immediate thought when you heard about this? Well, I didn't think much. I mean, it seemed a little, it seemed suspect, let's put it that way. And then there was an article, one article that discussed the problems the plane might have had with the guy who was the chief maintenance guy.

06:56 who says the whole plane was rebuilt less than two years ago. It's not flown that much, it's kept in tip-top condition and the maintenance, the head of maintenance says there's no way that this plane could crash by accident. Yeah, so just looking at, because of course you want to flip on CNN, you want to look around and see what the general message is that's being propagated and they always try the same thing. It's like, oh it was a 20 year old plane. Okay, that makes no difference whatsoever. It did have a complete overhaul in December of 2009 Which means that it most likely had to have was what is known as an annual?

07:37 in December of 2010. This thing was, this is actually, this is not just like some old Russian aircraft, which of course is what I've also, you know, you hear kind of, oh, it was a 20-year-old Russian aircraft. Yeah, those two gloves. Yeah, but it's, this is actually a very high-tech machine. It's a Trident, so it has three engines. This is an amazing aircraft. It can land on gravel. It's a... and it goes extremely fast. I mean this is like... this is the plane you actually do want. They just took them out of commission in Russia, but I'll tell you, I'd give my left nut to have one of these. Nothing wrong with this aircraft. It had a lot of sophisticated equipment on board.

08:22 Well, the reports of... so from an aviation standpoint, it's really weird, John. You know, so it's like, oh, it crashed in mist and... They didn't have an instrument landing system, which is true. It's a military airfield. They do have something called FAR, which is... an assist radar and that and this is just based on the data we have. The tower reportedly told journalists, well, he went below the glide path. Well, in that case, you saw him on some kind of glide path, so you know that he's doing something. And so it was some form of assist.

09:00 there were reports of The aircraft trying to make four attempts to land because of heavy fog we did a lot of work on the yesterday we all hopped in the chat room a whole bunch of the militiamen and and producers and In these these Russian airfields, it's not easy to get like a typical weather report, but we're able to get one and it turns out that the cloud base was Let's see, what is it? It was 500 meters, so that's about 1500 feet. That should be enough as a minimum to land, even if you're coming down through the crap. And certainly if you have some kind of glide path, you should be able to land perfectly. However, the impact was not only way short of the runway, according to the data we have, but it was also way to the right. They weren't even lined up. And then, and by the way,

10:01 There's no, it's just hearsay about this four attempts. That's not what the, apparently what the air traffic controllers at the tower said. They just said, oh, he went below the glide path. We told him not to land and then he crashed. Right. I got that one too. Yeah, that was like, okay. reports on the ground because there were a lot of reporters actually waiting for this delegation to arrive because it was for this big this big big ceremony heard explosions before there was any impact at all and I just look at the the video if it's even real video of the real the real accident and you know this is not a plane that clipped a wing and cartwheeled or anything like that it's just

10:48 But you know what, there's not enough data. It's really hard to look at it from an aviation perspective, but I'm just gonna kind of rule out the, oh, it was an old plane, and when it comes to weather, I find it highly unlikely that any aviator would take that type of risk if he really felt he couldn't land and would try it four times. It just doesn't seem right. It is, however, something that has happened in the past with with Polish luminaries. In fact, it was President Sikorski in 1943 who took off from Greece with an entire delegation and his plane crashed almost after takeoff and to this day of course still speculation about was that sabotage or not. How unlikely is that in a nation's history that this happens twice? Seems highly unlikely.

11:44 Although but based on the random number theory it should happen more and more Yay, so so so of course you know I go into my my analysis mode I'm like okay who benefits from this well, that's kind of the problem John There's so many people that benefit from from the people on this plane going away. So just to reiterate the president of of Poland They have a prime minister And the Prime Minister was not on the aircraft. The Prime Minister and the President actually not the biggest of friends. Yeah, the Prime Minister would benefit the... But then again, he might not because the... This President and his twin brother who was previously the Prime Minister were falling... were slowly falling out of favor. And this may actually boost the fortunes of their party.

12:43 Yeah, it may actually boost the fortunes of his twin brother. Well, which is the other freaky thing is that the now deceased, I'll just call him assassinated, president has a twin brother who's also in politics. And when you see those two in the picture, it's just like, oh, this is freaky. It just makes the whole thing kind of incredibly weird. Yeah, one has a mole. Well, I thought they were completely identical. No one has a mole Okay, that's you dance on their neck or something or his neck and it's like and that's how the people could identify the two of them Although the other one could just put a spot there, you know, I supposing right so President Kaczynski also not very favored by the European Union He dragged his heels as we've reported on this on the show for quite a while on ratifying the Lisbon Treaty So not not a bit none of not all the fans in in the EU. Um, I

13:39 What I found highly interesting that Donald Tusk, who actually lost the election against Kaczynski, went to Russia three days early, actually hung out with Dmitry, you know, talking about all kinds of stuff and they were photographed laughing and they actually went to the official ceremony in remembrance of all of these Polish soldiers who were killed during the Second World War. And he was, he's a real adversary of Kaczynski, whose whole trip was actually kind of up in the air. It wasn't supposed to happen. He wasn't really welcome. He wasn't invited. Is the Katyn, I guess you pronounce it? K-A-T-Y-N?

14:27 I don't know. Yeah, he wasn't really invited to that and so was he going to go? Let's talk about that. The celebration, it was a commemoration of essentially the Russians butchering and murdering a slew of Polish officers in the moments, kind of at the beginning of World War II. And it was a it was essentially It's considered the Russians don't even want to open the files on it. It's so so bad Yeah, they in fact they are they are closed up still the files Okay, so those are all just kind of like and when then we have their banker well Let me get to the banker in a second. I'm not quite there So then we have the pipeline

15:23 This to me is a highly interesting. This is the Nord Stream Pipeline. You've heard of this, John? No. Okay, go ahead and Google Nord Stream Pipeline, which actually, construction for this thing officially started on Friday, the day before this event. And this is a pipeline Through the Baltic Sea now you have to open up your Google Maps or your Google Earth to take a look at it That goes from Russia directly to Germany Bypassing Poland and there's been all kinds of course Poland was like whoa and this including Kaczynski like hey, you know Russians You can't go screwing us that the oil gas is supposed to go through our country We're supposed to be the conduit here. In fact, he called the This agreement between

16:17 Russia and Germany the equivalent of a modern-day Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which was the the agreement between Russia and Germany before the outbreak of the Second World War so cuz this he's been making a lot of noise he also object objected to the to the pipeline being too close to the Poland's ports in the Baltic Sea because it would actually Not allow for deeper ships to come into port. I mean there's a whole lot of political stuff going on here And if you look at this pipeline project and NORD STR EAM Nord Stream it is Huge I mean this thing it's a it's a I think it's a 10 billion euro project which means it'll probably cost 30 and

17:07 Gazprom owns 51% of it, then we have two German gas companies own it, and of course a piece of Gitmo nation Lowlands, the HUSUNY, owns about 9% of it. And oh yeah, everyone showed up for the groundbreaking ceremony, Jan-Peter Balkan and the missionary minister of the Netherlands was there. So this is a huge middle finger to Poland as we know, now Russia is essentially providing a lot of Europe's energy. And he was against it for obvious reasons because he's protecting his own turf. He's like, hey, you know, you're just cutting us out of the deal here. 26 banks underwriting this entire thing and here's where we slowly get into the banker part of it. And Goldman Sachs as a part of this cabal financing the Nord Stream pipeline just opened up a Warsaw branch just so you know that they're in there.

18:05 Have you finally looked at the pipeline project? No, I've written about it. Finland's involved with this thing too. You left them out. Yeah, well, who cares about Finland? They just knew whatever. May I just throw on top of that... US Patriot missiles were supposed to arrive this month this of course was set up originally was going to be the missile shield as George Bush put into place then Obama kind of Turned that down a little bit and said you know what when I can do this whole missile shield We'll just put we'll just put a couple of Patriot missiles in April was the month that they were supposed to arrive and of course Russia not at all happy with having a pro-us

18:46 country with missiles right on their border which is exactly where Poland is so that's another reason that it will be very close not really on their border close enough within patriot there's two there's at least one country between them and Russia yeah which ones well Belarus for one that's the biggest yeah yeah exactly and what I know is it Latvia what's that country just north of them or Lithuania Lithuania But this is what's really interesting, is the East Bloc essentially is expanding. Have you seen any of the news about Kyrgyzstan? I mean, I know that we've been really preoccupied with the WikiLeaks video and everyone's trying to pick that apart. Meanwhile, there's been a complete overthrow of the government in Kyrgyzstan, when really that is one of the most important air bases for the US to fly into Afghanistan.

19:36 and admitted, the rebels admit, yeah Moscow helped us out and by the way I saw I don't see protesters usually walking around with rocket launchers. It's not like the thing that is typical for them to have. So now we've got, you know, they've overthrown the government. Moscow is, you know, it's essentially a hit. It's what the CIA typically does. Now Russia just took back Kyrgyzstan Georgia I think is next to fall in fact the opposition in Georgia is literally saying hey if you guys don't watch out We'll have another Kyrgyzstan on our hands So there's all these things that are taking place and I see Russia squarely squarely in the driver's seat of it and Russia let's be honest when they go out and they give somebody to to the head they usually kind of make a big big show of it don't they

20:26 Yeah, they're not as subtle. No, they like to get, you know, generally, hey, you're at your house right now. Let me just go up there and just blow two in your head right here on the street. No, they're not. None of this suicided stuff. They just kill you, shoot you in the back of the head. So I was kind of thinking, well, it could be that, you know, maybe it's opposition from within Poland. But then I really look into the financial timeline and I'm thinking, oh no, no, no, this is way different. So you're right, there was the central banker, I guess kind of the Bernanke of Poland was on board. And I'm thinking it might have been about the central banker and not even about the president. March 29th, and this is all links in the show notes,

21:23 Polish Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance at odds over IMF credit. Now let me just say that Poland, one of the few countries, has not really had a recession in Europe. They've been kind of floating through it okay. Finance Ministry said the measures that the Central Bank proposed to meet Poland's obligations towards the IMF were inappropriate and they could create significant liabilities for the state March 30th. Polish Prime Minister calls for meeting with the central bank. The finance ministry estimated that 2009 profit of the central bank could stand at about 10 billion zlotys, which is about three and a half billion dollars. But the central bank's governor, that's the person who's now dead, signaled it could reach about 4 billion zlotys. That's 1.4 billion. So the Ministry of Finance was

22:22 apparently cook in the books and the central banker who I guess didn't get this central banker memo. I was saying, no, no, no, it's only going to be 1.4 billion. We're not making all that much money. What are you guys talking about? We don't have this great profit you think we can use. March 31st, fresh signs of conflict between Poland's central bank governor and fellow policy makers on Wednesday. Analysts said reflected a political divide in the 10-person strong Monetary Policy Council. In an unprecedented scene at the bank's news conference after its monthly decision on interest rates, Council Member Anna Zielinska-Gleboka was passed a note by Governor Zbikiewicz. Zbikiewicz read the note. It said, you are not telling the truth. So this apparently happened live during a press conference. So they're like fighting. They're fighting publicly over the money. And it's billions of dollars.

23:22 April 4th, Polish central banker says, just might quit over this profit thing. And then of course five days later, the central banker is dead. And we just lost John. Or did we lose the stream too? Oh my God. So that was either just to let you know that they're listening or to tell you to kind of move along a little bit with the point. Takes too long with the details. Well, that's the thing is there's so many details. It's like where to start. There was every single reason for all these people on the plane to be taken out of the picture. Every single reason. Which if you think about it is genius.

24:07 Of course it is, I mean it couldn't get any better, like get everyone on board and just get rid of the whole bunch in one go and then, ah bad weather, what can I tell you. It is genius. Yeah, not only that but the genius part is that you can't deconstruct it because it's like it could be any number of scenarios. None of them very clear. Although I tend to buy into the banker one. I think the banker one is good and this Nord Stream, that's so huge. And of course that includes 26 banks underwriting this project. Everyone's all goo goo ga ga because Russia is now just expanding in the great game. They're rebuilding the block. I guarantee you, watch Georgia. Georgia will be the next to go. So now they're getting Poland back. There's going to be an election which has to be called in two weeks.

24:50 constitutionally has to be in place I think in 60 days. You know you watch and by the way the interim president is a former minister of defense and he's as far as I can understand very pro-Russian. So Obama not doing too well on the on the friend front. He's pissing everybody off and the people that were his friends are getting offed. It's not so good. Anyway, I've collected a huge amount of links that back all of these theories up in the show notes at noagendashow.com under Polish 2 to the head.

25:28 And I just gotta tell you, I think you're right. I think it is genius. The best thing they could do is to do it this way and it's not the first time it's happened with the Polish leader and or government. And my heart certainly goes out to the Polish people because it seems like The seems like Kaczynski actually was a guy that had his country's best interest at heart. You know, he just didn't take any crap. They also shied away from the whole swine flu hype. Didn't really even I think even said so like, you know, this is bull crap.

26:05 not wanting to take bailout money from the IMF because they didn't need it. The central banker seems to have been running the business quite well. Everything seemed to be working okay. They actually devalued the Zloty against the Euro and the dollar to increase their exports. It seems like they were doing a pretty good job. And of course this rocks all of the European Union in general. the way they were operating so you're right good to have them all out of the way yeah well it's a reset it's a reboot it totally is but you know we'll see what comes of it I mean the Polish are so suspicious of Russia generally that I'm sure that there was in the cafes in Krakow oh yeah of course and by the way all the bodies sent to Russia for examination

26:57 Yeah, that's Moscow. It's like wait a minute if your leader is in case you just want to living. Yeah, if your leader dies it no matter where did the your leader gets sent back to your homeland? No, usually yeah. No, no. No, we're taking on the Moscow. We'll make sure everything's okay. Yeah, you're right just in case we need to like make sure everyone's over that way they can go through their pockets and you know, make sure they clean out any information that might be in there. You are so cynical. So to move off of that, but into just a follow-up on the WikiLeaks Apache helicopter video. It seems now to me so clear that the entire, and we've had a lot of heated email debate with listeners and producers and people who have donated even significant amounts to this show.

27:50 You know, it's like, oh, you're missing the point. It's about the cover-up. It's about, you know, the... What are the other points people make? Like, you know... That's the main point. The main point is the cover-up and it was the journalist and it wasn't an RPG. I'm like, you know, there's first of all, there's this 50 videos of Apaches killing people on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I don't see anyone having to jump through any incredible hoops to decode the video. You know, it's the other thing about this is that would get you kind of gets me on this video I kind of dropped thinking about too much But there was a couple thoughts that came to mind with some of the people that wrote in complaining about us Saying that we are against the wiki leaks and it they seem, you know, very dubious kinds of attacks You know, it's like how do you you got in Apache that you said is about five thousand feet away Guestimate

28:43 and this taking a movie of this action, all you see is very small figures which is essentially the black head in the body. And then they have little arrows pointing to the individuals. This is the reporter, this is this and this is that. How can you identify these people at all from the video? I mean, how do you identify the guy, oh here's the reporter, here he is being gunned down. You can't see his face. They're all wearing pretty much the same clothes. They all pretty much have the same black hair.

29:21 I'm just baffled by this positive identification that took place. It's almost like people, you know, this is again... It's like CSI Miami. It's like everyone's so used to this. The meme that has been created by these cop shows, which again, I'm gonna say it... I'm gonna keep saying it and I'm gonna say it again, has essentially poisoned the jury pool in the United States of America and is somewhat poisoning the analytical capabilities of the public in general because you can't do what they do on these shows. You can't have a blurry, you know, five-picture. Oh yeah, exactly. It's like zoom in. Enhance. I see the reflection in the wing nut.

30:06 Yeah, I guess right a reflection in a bolt on the tire that zoom in on that and enhance and then you got the guys You know picture with his tongue hanging out and you know, and he's winking I mean you get well, how do you get this kind of detail? You can only create so much detail when there's no when there's zero information, which is the case most of the time exactly so I did a little bit of research because you know, what exactly is WikiLeaks right and Without getting into it too deep. I just want to call this whole video disinformation and Distraction if anything because who cares this happens I mean forget about the human aspect, but this happens all the time There's videos all over YouTube even of this happening. They've got this incredible You know like you know they know exactly who everybody is WikiLeaks is not like an investigative reporting outfit

30:57 They essentially take documents anonymously. They have technology so that it's spread out, so they claim, spread out across lots of servers. and then they vet the information, which again I do not call investigative reporting, and then they release it. You know, it's more like a whistleblower service. It's not... Yeah, one of our critics said that, you know, you're throwing dirt on these great reporters. There's no reporting here. No, zero reporting. And then so I'm looking around and of course there's, you know, there's this whole war war or war of words at least between Cryptome.org and Wikileaks and you know apparently these guys

31:38 Broke out or you know, they were part of the same organization and they you know, it's like really weird But then I found an interesting story on mother Jones Which I think does do some excellent reporting and we've we've actually referenced them previously and always find it interesting when mother Jones gets into something and you kind of have to do a bit of archive org-ing on wiki leaks because of course they could they shut down a couple months ago and And they came back saying, well we need money, we need money, we need money, and the site won't be fully back up online until we get money. And they used to have this, you know, like a whole, you know, the site was really rich with archives, etc. All that's been taken away, even the about page, basically now they just have an upload and now it's called collateralmurder.com or whatever, or it points to the same page.

32:30 But if you go back and look at the Wikileaks so-called advisory board at archive.org, which I have linked to in the show notes at noagendashow.com, there's a couple of interesting names there. I'm actually bringing it up right now. And what, here it is. So Julian Assange is the guy behind Wikileaks. And he was apparently a hacker in Australia. And if you read his own bio, I love this. Born in Australia to a touring theater... Send me that link. Okay, hold on. Here we go. I'm going to send you this link. Actually, yeah, so this is... There's a bio page of the so-called advisory board. So there's Philip Adams, a broadcaster, Julian Assange, who calls himself... He calls himself a co-inventor of deniable cryptography,

33:38 He became Australia's most famous ethical computer hacker, but then we have Wang Dan a dissident from the Tiananmen Square a Chinese dissident Ben Laurie internet security expert anyway before I get off on get off on reading all the names Mother Jones contacted a couple of these people and said hey you're on the on the advisory board talk to me about it and So, digital expert Ben Lorry laughs when I ask why he's named on the site. Quote, WikiLeaks allegedly has an advisory board and allegedly I'm a member of it, he says. I don't know who runs it. One of the things I've tried to avoid is knowing what's going on there because that's probably safest for all concerned. Lorry says his only substantive interaction with the group was when Assange approached him to help design a system that would protect leakers' anonymity.

34:29 John Young, founder of Cryptome.org. Wait a minute, that's not the one I wanted. But everyone basically that they were able to contact says, no, I'm not on that board. I got nothing to do with it. You know, the guy called me once, gave me like some, you know, I got a weird phone call in the middle of the night. So, you know, what is that about? Yeah, really? That's kind of interesting. So I like what Mother Jones has done there and I'm just saying you know we got a lot of flack for just being skeptical. Just one bit of questioning authority. You know we have to, people who

35:13 Don't constantly question authority and they start taking things, you know as all this is over WikiLeaks I've been told is this dude. It's just great thing I mean you have to question authority just constantly and and that WikiLeaks is Something that is held above this this philosophy. Why is WikiLeaks get a pass? Yeah, they shouldn't so Toshi Nagyai Kamikstang, a former representative of the Dalai Lama, recalls getting a cryptic email from Wikileaks a few years ago, but says he never agreed to be an advisor. Noam Chomsky is listed as a volunteer administrator of the Wikileaks Facebook group. This is news to him. I know nothing about it, he says.

35:55 So yeah, you know it's like and but you're right why is it that they get a free pass from the in fact from a lot of our audience you know it this is brilliant whatever it fits in. I'm just not buying all of it. And of course, you know, there's lots of people saying, oh, it's a CIA Mossad front, you know, whatever. It could be. But yeah, it's just like, just, yeah, you know, but that I was, I was under the impression that could be too, but, but this kind of amateurish approach to like naming names that aren't part of your operation. Yeah, that's seems a bit, that's not very spooky. Right. So, but I'm just like, you know, but again, it could be.

36:36 But this to me is just like a Tiger Woods, Sandra Bullock, Jesse James for the conspiracy theorists. This whole video. It's like, what does it matter? You know, press people get killed all the time, particularly people who don't have... There's been 140, I believe the number is 140 so far. In Iraq. Yeah, particular press people who don't have the big words, press, on their flak jacket, which is usually a way to identify them. Right, we have one military advisor who writes us every once in a while complaining about our crappy take on the military. And he mentions the thought, the one interesting

37:14 He mentions the following, that typically enemy combatants versus civilians that are familiar, that are in other words Americans, people that are on our side in this battle. If they see an Apache helicopter, they start waving their arms and drawing attention to themselves or maybe having a handkerchief or something to let the Apaches know... Hey, don't shoot me! don't shoot me and he made mention of the fact that it's always assumed that anybody who doesn't follow this procedure is a dummy that is probably a terrorist that doesn't even know to do this and hasn't even been told to do it and they just, they're oblivious and so they are immediately considered possible targets.

37:58 And in fact, these two journalists who should have done exactly that, they knew what the ropes, they were working for Reuters. If that was indeed them in the video, and I still have doubts about that because who the hell knows who's in this video? 5,000 feet away, a couple of pixels, I'm not buying it. With the arrows pointing, who put those arrows in by the way? And how do you check that? Didn't everyone on the ground get basically slaughtered? So who was there to verify it? I mean, and these are really simple questions. Really simple. Now, of course, and again, and the other thing is this video. This is another thing that bothers me about it. WikiLeaks tends to be a, you know, a whistleblowing operation. So you send them the memo, they put the memo online and people read the memo and that's the end of it. Why is this thing so editorialized? You had the video, you had

38:50 you know, repeats of the shot of the video over and over. Commentary in the video all over the place, arrows pointing to people. Where did this video come from? Did WikiLeaks produce it? And the... And the... Exactly, who put the arrows in? So the thing that people need to understand is that this is war. I mean, go on YouTube or Google Apache video shooting people on the ground. There's tons of examples. And I can just put some arrows in there and you'd be just as shocked. I mean, people walking in fields, done, they're dead. Guy walking, oh, well, he was a bad guy. So therefore, it's okay for him to get killed. I mean, the possibility actually exists that this video has already been out there.

39:36 And then somebody got a hold of it and then edited around it to make it, you know, I'm not like I said, I'm not They say they vetted it. I don't know how you could do that. This thing has been produced. It's a produced video. It's got commentary at the beginning. It's got wordage all over. It's got arrows pointing at people. How do you vet that? And at the end of the day, what difference does it make? We know this is going on. You've made that point already 25 times. We get it. But I can't stop. I'm looking at the chat room and I see people continuously going on, yeah, but what about the people in the van? It doesn't matter. That happens all the time. That's what war is. And the people in the van, according to our military guys, should have been waving off the chopper. Good point. They weren't waving anybody off, they were scurrying around, you know, so they're thus assumed to be the bad guys. So they blew up the van too. I mean, I don't know. I think we should drop this thing completely because it's wasting our time. You're right. It is. Want to hear a report from Haiti? A real report?

40:40 People are dying there more so than in that one scene. Exactly, it's like, oh but I texted $10 so I feel good about it, I don't have to think about it, nothing to see here. I sent my money, I watched the great music television show, I sang along with the, with the we are the world, we are the children, yeah! Now this is from WTOP FM, FM. And they've got a guy on the ground and this is about a minute and a half. You want to hear what's really going on with all the hundreds of millions of dollars that was collected worldwide? Are you telling me that there's a reporter that's actually there and he's gonna report? Yes, Del Walters I believe. I don't know if he's the guy on the ground or not. Yeah, there's an actual reporter on the ground. So remember now, Clinton is the UN special envoy. He's busy collecting $11.4 billion to rebuild Haiti and of course have a couple of hotels and streets named after him and Hillary.

41:39 We've got hundreds of millions collected around the world, wherever you are, whichever Gitmo nation you belong to. I know that you saw people participate. I know you saw this money being collected. Here's how well it's working. Rain has flooded Haiti's earthquake camps this week, scaring residents just hours after they were told to get ready for a more active than usual hurricane season. downpours left half a foot of water inside makeshift tents. WTOP's Del Walters has spent the week in Haiti leading a group of documentary film students from Bowie State. Del tells us he knows a lot of money has been donated but he's surprised at how little he sees being done and that he and his students are seeing horrors. We've been in Port-au-Prince throughout the week and I can tell you that what we have seen is an indication that it

42:25 as an international community this is the best we can do we're going to fall far short we were at the hospital yesterday where you know the nursing home collapse and we saw a patient whose wound had not been treated his wife said since the earthquake as she pulled back the sheet you can literally see the flies that had started to bluster and the infection itself had gangrene set in. It smelled terrible. So the international efforts, you know, those hundreds of millions of dollars that were poured into Haiti, you just don't see them. Now that's not to say that things aren't being done, but what it is saying is that it is not that big international visible presence. I always find it unfortunate when a reporter does that. And says, oh that's not to say that it's not being done, you know, always hedging so he doesn't get caught.

43:10 Yeah, he's hedging. That's exactly what he's doing. He should say, as far as I can tell, nothing's being done. Yeah, really, because that's what he wants to say, but you know, whatever. For whatever reason, he doesn't feel comfortable saying it. ...to be needed in order to make this country whole. Well, what has to happen to make it better? I think what has to happen is that the attention span of the press has got to be a little bit longer than it has been so far with this particular disaster. Best comments so far. No, no, no, we've moved on to other stuff, more important things. Like a shooting in a shopping mall. What the Haitian people are saying. A lot of people that I talked to were very offended that so much attention was paid to the missionaries from Utah that were in the jail and not to the thousands of people who continue to suffer. You know, yesterday we saw people that were still trying to dig out of places that had collapsed. The streets are still impassable. Picture the snowstorm, the blizzard of 2010.

44:02 where people could not travel now multiply that by three months and that's what you have in haiti where the rumble from the earthquake still litters the streets making a lot of streets in and around port-au-prince incapable let's go back to that man with his badly damaged leg wasn't there somebody there who could at least dress the wound clean it up that's what scared me the wound appeared to have been dressed once but then it didn't appear to have had any attention and you're talking about a when i tell you the amputee ward at the hospital in downtown port au france we're talking about a tent where flies can come and go as they please and so can anybody else that wants to walk into that tent so where's all these tents and supplies and everything and this airport full of stuff what's going on john i don't get it

44:46 Where's John Travolta? Yeah, where's the Scientology jerk massaging people? They're not even there anymore. They've all pulled out. They got their press mention and they're out. They're done. Okay, let's go. Hey, you can't drive in the streets. Why? Because the big bulldozers aren't there to build the hotels yet. Why do the work twice? Just wait for the guys who are going to build and do it all in one go. Yeah, let's get it. Let's see how many people can die in the meantime so we don't have, you know, so it lowers the population. Yeah, just bulldoze them up. Yeah, it's a big hassle, you know, coffins, burying people. Yeah, we just want to find a big shallow grave and push them in and then we're in business and we got the, then we have the, the, uh...

45:29 Cruise that can help us maintain the hotels. Let's just listen to know this is right by the way We were on this from the beginning of the before the first stupid concert that there was this had scam written all over it And I wish people would have our attitudes about this and cut these people off exactly in fact You know that the weird word Haiti that has been appearing after David Letterman segments into commercials and Yeah. On television it just pops up the word, just the word Haiti. So I'm not sure if this is it, but there's something called the International Rescue Committee, which has a frightening acronym, theIRC.org. They use the same font and letter type. You can take a look at their website. I've also linked to it in the show notes.

44:46 Where's John Travolta? Yeah, where's the Scientology jerk massaging people? They're not even there anymore. They've all pulled out. They got their press mention and they're out. They're done. Okay, let's go. Hey, you can't drive in the streets. Why? Because the big bulldozers aren't there to build the hotels yet. Why do the work twice? Just wait for the guys who are going to build and do it all in one go. Yeah, let's get it. Let's see how many people can die in the meantime so we don't have, you know, so it lowers the population. Yeah, just bulldoze them up. Yeah, it's a big hassle, you know, coffins, burying people. Yeah, we just want to find a big shallow grave and push them in and then we're in business and we got the, then we have the, the, uh...

45:29 Cruise that can help us maintain the hotels. Let's just listen to know this is right by the way We were on this from the beginning of the before the first stupid concert that there was this had scam written all over it And I wish people would have our attitudes about this and cut these people off exactly in fact You know that the weird word Haiti that has been appearing after David Letterman segments into commercials and Yeah. On television it just pops up the word, just the word Haiti. So I'm not sure if this is it, but there's something called the International Rescue Committee, which has a frightening acronym, theIRC.org. They use the same font and letter type. You can take a look at their website. I've also linked to it in the show notes.

46:19 And I think it might be some kind of subliminal campaign somehow. It's really weird. Well, let's just continue for like 20 seconds. We saw babies in a neonatal ward that we were told by the nurse that was treating them most of them will not make it through the week. The students that were with me from Bowie State University broke down in tears and had to be consoled. They were so upset with what they saw. I think that the international community has a standard that's not being met in Haiti. you know it is impossible and a hospital setting to have an air-conditioned tent so that at least if the patients are going to be suffering they can't offer in some type of comfort as opposed to being out in the open element that rain last night it rained terribly and as we went to the refugee camp

46:59 We realized as we were laying there in the relative comfort of our tent and our awning surrounding that they didn't feel the same way, that the water was coming in on them. And it's the rainy season down here and they're very concerned about disease. If you talk about refugee camps and tent villages, what's the prospect for changing that? How long will people have to live that way? that's the thing i think bob that that concern me the most is that i remember watching the telephones where people were giving five dollars and ten dollars to fix haiti we went by several sites one of which was run by the united nations where large front-end machines seem to be sitting idle

47:35 I didn't see any large, big trucks. I have not seen a crane dot the skyline of Port-au-Prince. The only thing that I've seen are people with yellow t-shirts on, marked with USAID, with shovels and wheelbarrows that are literally taking apart the buildings that have fallen by hand. I did not see this huge international presence that would seem to be needed in order to make Port-au-Prince whole. Because it's not happening. Shines to show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. No agenda listeners. I know you want to help Adam and John promote the show and help them with their websites, but just send your cash. George working for us too. Yeah, I'm gonna get a better George. So, uh, free. Okay. So why is it? Why is the why is none of this surprising at all?

48:29 Well, what's surprising is that we've... They're looking forward to a hurricane killing even more people. Of course! Of course! This is a lot easier. This is basically a genocide. Yes. Genocide by neglect. And what do we all argue about? About some press guys. As a, you know, just in the grand scheme of things, I'm sorry. Or maybe it's because they're brown that they don't count. Check yourself, is what I'd say. Check yourself. Well, the Ninth Ward is another example of genocide by neglect. Exactly. And by the way, it wasn't Hurricane Katrina that caused the catastrophe. It was the breaking of the levee which happened after the hurricane.

56:14 an ingredient of liquid soaps, hand sanitizers, dishwashing liquids, shaving gels, and even socks, workout clothes, and toys. They say that the triclosan disrupts the body's endocrine system and they don't know whether it helps to create bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics. Yeah, that's their big fear. So, antibiotics won't work if you have triclosan in your system? No, no. I think what they're saying is that it might be like overusing an antibiotic. Two or three bugs get by it and they are the ones that survive. The next thing you know, they're reproducing and they're going to be stronger than ever.

57:02 And so now they can't be stopped. I think that's what my guess is. Hey, if you think that it's good enough for the FDA. Hey, it's thought to work that way. All you gotta do is just think. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. Look at that. I love that. Meanwhile, Monsanto, our good friends, are cutting prices on their newest genetically modified seeds to accelerate adoption. which apparently will help boost their profit 15% a year. I'm not quite sure how that works. So they are so desperate to get their smart stacks and Roundup ready to soybeans into the marketplace that they're lowering prices to, I guess, thwart any competition of like, what do you call it? Oh yeah, nature. That's what it is. The world's best run company, some say. Fine underwriters of PBS programming. Yeah, definitely.

58:05 PBS. Got a couple of real news stories if we want to do that or take a break and talk about who's donating. And now, back to real news. Might as well hit me with one. How about that woman in the Kayla, you know, she murdered her kid they think and now it turns out that this mom who's in jail essentially apparently talked about how she was chloroforming her kid. Oh right, so she could go out and party? Yeah. Yeah, cool. So but I got this clip here, it says chloroforming the baby and there's something in there that I just thought was a little interesting.

58:47 What about B through Y? The practice is more common among young moms who don't want to be bothered by a crying baby. It's well documented Casey Anthony liked to party and in discovery documents one of her friends even says at parties quote the kids slept through anything. Someone at the Anthony home looked up chloroform on the web around the time of Kaylee's disappearance. Where's the transaction? Where's the credit card receipt? We have forensic evidence that has been returned to us regarding the vehicle. She didn't just walk into Walgreens and buy chloroform. I just watched the f***ing news and heard everything that my mom said. Nobody in my own family is on my side. Wow. Okay, there's a lot of stuff in this clip. Yeah, there's a whole bunch in this little clip. So first of all, CSI Investigations has gone in and checked her web history.

59:39 And she looked up chloroform. Yeah, apparently that's something people should be aware of. You can erase your history, but she obviously didn't. Very few people know their history, especially with Mozilla, but even with the IE now, essentially everything you have looked at for the last number of months. Well, it doesn't matter. Google is tracking your history whether you're logged in or not. They keep it for like 18 months or whatever, or 90 days. What difference does it make? No, I thought it was a year and a half. I think if you're not logged in they keep that, it doesn't matter, you believe them, I don't. Look at that Eric Schmidt. Yeah, hard disks are cheap. Yeah, really. So yeah, so we got the, but then there was a...

1:00:18 I didn't know this was like a common practice. They start off with that, right? Yeah, I didn't know it was a common practice either. I mean, it's kind of risky because chloroform is toxic and it's not good for the liver, especially if you're a developing child. I mean, I can't imagine that. It's like roofing your child, man. What's going on with that? Yeah, whack the kid with some chloroform to knock him out. It's ridiculous. And I need to go out. I feel like partying, John. John, I want to party. Let's go. Hey, let's chloroform the kids and let's go hit it. Have you ever heard of a babysitter? So anyway, this woman, we watch a little bit of this. I mean, you can't not because this woman seems, she's an attractive mom, but she has this callous quality. She looks like a psycho. And there's a lot of talk about whether they checked her for bipolar disorder and all the rest of it, but it's a pathetic distraction. But I did learn something about the chloroform.

1:01:17 You mean the use of it? I ever smell chloroform around somebody's house, I'm calling, you know, this is, I would call the cops. Yeah, yeah, call, but don't call Child Protective Services because then that's even worse for the kids. They might as well be chloroformed. Oops, there goes the stream again. Oh, good lines. Hold on a second, hold on a second. You with me again? Yeah, you there? Okay, yeah, we dropped out for a second. Today is not good. Anyway, so yeah, I was just saying don't, don't call Child Protective Services because then the kid's better off being chloroformed. Yeah, in fact that's what's going to happen to this woman who's going to eat crap is the woman who sent the seven-year-old, this is another distraction story, a very interesting one, took a seven-year-old that she adopted from Russia who was apparently a psycho kid.

1:02:12 My wife suggested he had reactive attachment disorder, which is not uncommon for kids that were raised in orphanages when there's a hundred kids in the room and nobody gets any attention or get beaten a lot or beaten up. And typically a kid like this would be one of those you know really endearing in the early stages of the grace period and then uh... maybe five months into it turns into the net ball that he is in this kid apparently the fire bug and he was one of the burn the house down he was telling everybody is gonna kill everybody in the house by burning the house to the ground and it gets a guy who bad enough that she just basically

1:02:50 put some paperwork on the kid, put on a plane and ship them to Russia. This one's no good. Send it back. I want my rebate. So now all hell's breaking loose and nobody is even bringing up any of the, you know, nobody is siding with the mom and under any circumstance which may be something somebody should do but play the Russian adoption clip a woman from Tennessee sparking international outrage by sending a little boy she adopted from Russia back to International outrage John this is all over the papers internationally everywhere I read nothing but this

1:03:26 In Malaysia in particular. Moscow, but this is the interesting part. He was seven years old. He was put on board a plane all by himself with cookies and coloring pens in his backpack. Also inserted in the backpack, a letter from the adoptive mother saying she could no longer act as a parent for the son because of his violent and terrifying outbursts. Erica Lavin from WZTV has more on the story. Tori Hanson is a registered nurse. She adopted her son last September. Local officials say she told an adoption agency as late as January that things in her home were going well. For seven months, a seven-year-old Russian boy called Bedford County home until his adoptive mother, Tori Hanson, decided she no longer wanted him. Bedford County investigator Becky Hord spoke with the boy's grandmother, Nancy Hanson. She gave me very

1:04:19 limited information. She advised me that there was a situation with the child. and that she sent the child back to Russia. She's the one that placed the child on the airplane and in turn sent the child back to Russia. She wouldn't give me any information about where her daughter was. The child, whose family called him Justin, reportedly flew from Nashville to Washington and on to Moscow alone. He had a note from his mother explaining that he was violent with severe psychological issues and that she wanted the adoption On Friday, Torrey Hanson refused to meet with the Bedford County Sheriff's Department. That's part of the difficulty of this case. We're here... Why are they spending so much time on this? I'm wondering myself. There's a hidden message in this story. Have we already missed it?

1:05:09 No, I don't know what it is. I'm just saying. Oh, okay. Do we have to listen the whole thing? You should listen to it because it's kind of... listen to this redneck sheriff for sure. Oh boy. And the child is in Russia. So you know it's hard for us to know where this child's been abused and not he's half the world away. The boy reportedly told Russian officials that he was abused by his mother, prompting officials there to freeze all US adoptions. Russian reported... Oh. There's your message. Yeah, the story turns on the poor mom, who's a registered nurse by the way, and which is, you know, so she has some knowledge about things and is probably smarter than the sheriff. But they, but apparently the kid who's, you know, just a, he's one of, he's a bad seed, I would think it sounds like. And he, of course, plays, knows how to play it. I mean, and, you know, who needs, to be honest about it, I think people should be very suspect of

1:06:05 pulling out kids from Eastern Europe, former Soviet Union or any place else where they have these huge brutal orphanages that basically create criminals. If they're not Manchurian candidates with embedded chips. Who or whatever but anyway, so this is a big story going on and I think it's this woman's gonna end up eating She's she I don't know what she did wrong and the way I mean the way she did it She's so freaked out I guess but you know This is gonna backfire and she's gonna she's gonna be the bad guy in this whole thing I don't see anybody coming to her defense at all. So it's the way that's what happens. All right I've got I've got I've got a pretty big

1:06:47 Story to talk about which I want to get to maybe we should talk about some of the support we received this week first Yeah, let's go with some people that gave us some help this week and Matthew Donahue and Walnut Creek Sent us $139.90. He's clearing out his PayPal, which we recommend people do is gonna do some more six six dot six six donations, but he was criticized for the six and four sixes instead of three. Yeah. Anyway, he is going to... Four sixes is even better, by the way. I think six sixes. Yeah. Now you're talking. Yeah. Anyway, he loves the show. Angryfolk.com out of Pasadena, $75. His band, by the way, this is for you. This is a message for you. The Poxy Boggarts or Boggarts. I think it's Boggarts. Is it Boggarts? Yeah. Are performing at the Renaissance. They're like an Irish folk band.

1:07:45 But you know that's apparently becoming very popular nowadays. They're performing at the Renaissance Pleasure Fair. Pleasure? Hmm. I wonder if there's some hot damsels there at the Pleasure Fair. Probably lots of damsels. I might check that out. The Renaissance Pleasure Fair. You're gonna get a will call pass for two. Nice. You gotta comp. That's even better than the That's even better than a donation. I get to see some hot maidens. So, those things are essentially flea markets with costumes. And they sometimes have some decent food. Matthew Thomas of Bruner, Missouri, $70.85 proposal for a jobs patch. In other words,

1:08:37 I think this relates to the Karma Club. I think the Karma Club is where we're going to go. Yeah, more and more people are finding out that if you donate, it doesn't seem to make any difference how much you donate, but I have yet to receive some... Actually, I did receive one email from someone who has not gotten a job yet after donating, but that's about it. That's one against hundreds. Who donate to the show and then through some karma all of a sudden they get a job so his idea Matthew Thomas's idea is to donate $70.85 which if you kind of look at it and you put you turn the the seven upside down it would be jobs in leet speak I guess 70 85 70 85 70 85 okay

1:09:26 uh... dish jordan wyatt and christopher lindhart and jordan's from uh... uh... new zealand and recommends that we'd create a uh... and but by the way they both get fifty eighteen honor my birthday they uh... he represent wants to push a uh... a vegan group within the no agenda knighthood and critical And Christopher, that's gonna happen. And Lind Hartson from Richland, Washington says he wishes me a happy birthday and you shouldn't get any of the money. It's a thought. Frank Kruger of Seattle, Washington, 5555, a long time donor, he wants a plug for his new iPad app, Elkars Reader.

1:10:17 L cars LC ars reader calm it's a blog internet reader with a center fish check it out you have you use that thing is it is for iPad as well yeah it's for iPad is for the iPad he says cool cool piece P sneaks the Amsterdam makes Snakes. Who is a founding or sustaining producer of the NOAA Gender Stream, I believe. Yeah, he's a good guy. 55-55. Eric Ortega, Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Ryan Lee of Ashland, Kentucky and Keith McColpin of Imperial, Pennsylvania. All fit two nickels on the dime. 55-10. And Eric is going to test the karma thing for the job.

1:11:04 So, what do you mean? We're talking about he has a job. He has a job with us. But Eric Ortega? Oh, I thought you meant Eric the shill. No, I'm sorry. You confused me for something. No, not Eric. Eric Ortega. Oh, okay. Well, Eric will be our canary in the coal mine. He'll be our test subject. Oh, one of many. Keith, meanwhile, wants a shout out to his sons Austin and Zach. And he thinks the show is great, which and he's right. John Tucker, Omaha, Nebraska 5510, don't forget the DBA. Someone needs to develop the link node connection of the New World Order. It will be the DBAs. What is he talking about? Okay, this is about the the sysadmins and the network admins that we praise, that I praise so much, who I believe will save us when the shit really hits the fan. What's a DBA? A database administrator. Oh, yeah. By the way, I had an idea.

1:11:54 That I will talk about on on the daily source code so we can kind of break the conversation out what we really need For no agenda and the producers and our minute men and the militia etc is we need a push notification server And the reason why is that this can then be used in, well certainly in iPhone apps, and then I guess it'll also work in other, right now the iPhone is like 50 million iPhones are out there. And that enables you to send a message to anyone who has an app installed, and even if the app is not running, it'll pop up a message on your screen. So if something important happens, if we need something,

1:12:38 Or if you know what whatever it would be right we could just it's like a bat signal and it takes a little bit of server coding so I'm thinking maybe we can get some of our CIS net and D and database admins to work together and create a push notification server It's just another little thing that I've been working on the side Okay, Andrew Laverick, Billingham United Kingdom, 5073, and then we have Robert Alter, Mike Westerfield, Lisa Lang, Julie Lee, who've been donating on the night thing and the rest of it. Now there's a couple lesser donations that came, but I have to talk about them because they're interesting ideas. Craig Peters, for example, gave $8.

1:13:24 And he says, why $8 because it's the price of that douchebag Sean Hannity's new book on Amazon. I challenge all no agenda listeners. I'm not going to buy that douchebag Sean Hannity's book. Send the $8 to No Agenda now. Yeah, we'll take it. Thank you. Absolutely. And somebody won a lottery and they sent us the proceeds. And I think there's one more message, which is, Some guy, yeah, we got another one of these, Buck 47 because his card expired and it was in PayPal, somebody just gave it to us, which I recommend everybody do. Now here I have an idea for everyone who cannot really give us a goodly amount but would like to donate. I would like to challenge every No Agenda listener

1:14:13 over the next seven days, go on at least a minimum of three websites that accept comments and make a pertinent comment to something or other and plug the show in the process. Yeah, with a link to noagendashow.com. With a link to noagendashow.com. Put it in there and see, a lot of these guys will just ban you, or don't go to something you worry about getting banned at. But just find a good, and find the bigger ones, you know, there's a lot of people. And plug the No Agenda Show on there. Do three of them,

1:14:49 And I think we'll push our numbers up a little bit next week. That's a good idea. We've got a couple more things that came in just the very end. I'm not quite sure who this is from, which is from lav2358. Hi guys, just sent a donation of over $50 which is 33 pounds. The reason for this amount is 11 pounds each for myself and two fellow listeners, Adam Sayers and Dave Pelling. Both of them... DOOSHBAG! Hopefully either I'll make us all nights over time and they will contribute. Correction... We received $220.22 to plug the website Pluggio.com. Apparently we mispronounce it. It's P-L-U-G-G-I-O dot com. Pluggio dot com. Hey, that's a snappy name. Pluggio. Pluggio. And then interesting initiative from Brian King.

1:15:48 who is spending $400. Actually he says, I'm donating $400 to no agenda. In lieu of cash, I've sent that sum to the human fund, whatever that is. Seriously though, he didn't send it to the human fund. He purchased an ad on a giant electronic billboard on the south side of I-69 in Noblesville, Indiana. Exit 10. So for the next eight days starting today, Central Indiana travelers will be bombarded by your two big ugly mugs 24-7. That's evenings and in the morning too, those poor bastards.

1:16:28 And in honor of the first person to send in a link to video showing the ad and rotation on the actual billboard itself, I'll donate double nickels on the dime, $55.10. So you want to send it to i69billboard at noagendarocks.com. And he hopes to earn a PR associate in residence once this thing hits. That's cool. Yeah, that's very good. That's the kind of thing a good creative marketing and advertising, guerrilla marketing as it were, is the way we actually prefer. I think it's more fun and it gets everybody involved. And I think, you know, people come up with good, I mean there are benches that, you know, like where people sit to pick up the

1:17:11 bus you know you can get stuff painted on there for next to nothing I mean there's all kinds that you put things on the sides of buses you can do graffiti if you if you know how to do it legally or graffiti or otherwise and there's a lot of creative things that we can be doing but I think this week we're gonna push the post three comments everybody post three comments with every like you know tens of thousands of comments if we're lucky and it do pipe you know get some people get some attention All right, but whatever And we're kind of I guess we're still kind of flat like last week if I just look at the number Yeah, pretty much, but I think it'll pick up no agenda show comm Devorah org slash na and for people who are the you know fans of the no agenda stream and you want to donate directly to that does the work that org slash and a s or as a backup channel Dvorak comm slash

1:18:03 NA is an alternative site for people like in Russia who can't, who probably aren't listening to this anyway because they probably won't get the stream either, but they can't get on the Dvorak.org slash NA because of whatever restrictions are on that site. The internet's just being censored left and right, it's ridiculous. I do like your optimism John, for the past two months every time I say well we're not really moving up you always say I think it'll pick up. You always say that, it's not picking up. We have more listeners, I know that. It's not picking up.

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1:20:29 beginning of the year if I'm not mistaken and We had you know it didn't start with a captain who was held hostage and they had this near this like 18 year old kid and they arrested him and they brought him in and then It seemed like warships from all over the world were going to that region to go protect the the ships from the pirates and Right, I think well, I think they had the action most of them I'm not sure but I'm thinking most of the action took place at the end of last year and that's when they arrested that guy and brought him to New York and he was a big celebrity and whatever happened to him right so that was in December exactly in December right around the time that of course President Obama was getting ready to to come in and

1:21:15 But what was interesting is that the Dutch sent a frigate over there, they just blew some more... I mean we're talking about guys in rubber dinghies. Okay, they might have a rocket launcher, but still, we've got battleships. And every nation sent battleships. The US, the Netherlands, I believe Germany, I think even China sent a ship over. And of course you're thinking like, well yeah, we need to protect our commerce there because, you know, it's like these pirates, right? We got some pirates. And it's basically a bunch of teenagers in a rubber boat and there's an insurance scam angle to all of that. But more importantly, why do we now have, and this is just approximate levels, 300 warships off the coast of Somalia?

1:22:05 You'd think that's a little overkill for a couple of kids with Zodiacs, wouldn't you? Definitely. So on January 5th, and there is now a picture in the show notes at noagendashow.com, Gulf of Aden Stargate opened up now brother and There's a lot of different information and I've just what I've done over the weekend as I've collected a lot of different pieces interviews Pictures videos now, of course, you know, we should do a special report on this I am going to and I think I'm gonna do it on the daily source code and

1:22:47 Because this Stargate, which of course is located seven miles down, it's in the seabed where there's also a base of some sort. I'm not sure whose base it is. An Israeli moon base. Now don't make fun of me now. The Stargate is opened up January 5th. Everybody knows it and from what I understand from the research I've gotten so far is that there's a magnetic field that either it comes in or goes out of this Stargate and what it does is effectively renders all weapons of mass destruction ineffective. That's the story. That's the story. Actually the Stargate, I believe there is a Stargate, it opens up and what comes out? Fish.

1:23:31 Well, the picture of the Stargate is pretty convincing. And what's interesting if you go on Google Earth and you try to look at that entire region, you can only look at the coast. All the water is just blue. It's like colorized blue. You don't actually see the surface of the water, so you can't see any ships or anything like that. Whereas if you go to the English Channel for instance, and you zoom in with Google Earth, then you can see shipping lanes and ships. So, I don't know. But there's a lot of people coming forward, all of course of their credibility can be discussed but

1:24:13 I find it interesting and you know me, it's not beyond the realm of my belief that there actually is something happening there and I have to say all of these ships, all of these warships for a couple of kids in Zodiacs and then they hold one up like here he is, here's a pirate, we got him and you're right, didn't hear from him again. It just seems a little much. Well, it's an interesting theory. I found a cool video that goes along with our Popegate coverage. Of course, the Pope, he was Cardinal Ratzinger before he became, what is he now? What is his Pope-age? What is his papal name? He's a Pope. No, what is his papal name? Well, that's a good question. Why wouldn't I know? I don't know. Anyways. Pope Paul V or something like that, isn't it? So in 2008, August 24th, he comes out of

1:25:15 I'm not quite sure. He's coming out of... He's called the Sixth. The Sixth. He's coming out of a meeting. I'll just call it a meeting. Maybe it was church. And a... I think it was an ABC reporter comes up to him and starts asking him about, you know, what is now the Popegate scandal about this... I guess you would officially call it a pedosexual, not even a pedophile, about a pedosexual priest who Ratzinger at the time, Cardinal Ratzinger, just, you know, transferred to another station, another base and kind of covered up the whole thing. And he actually winds up slapping the reporter. Now you won't, of course you can't see that he slaps him on the hand, you can't see it but you can hear the slap and you can hear his answers which are like, this is no time to ask me questions about this, do not talk to me, shut up slave!

1:26:11 I want to ask you a question about Father Massie. No, I'm not so informed to speak in this moment. It's inconvenient at this moment to come to me with this question, you slave. What do you think you are? There's a question whether you come to me. Did you hear it? Yeah, it's good. Come to me, slumped. Not yet, not yet. Not yet, I'm not just ready. It's Pope Benedict XVI. There you go. He just slaps the guy. What do you think it's Pope Paul for? I don't know. He just slaps the guy. Shut up. Shut up. This is not convenient time for me to talk about my cover-up. Shut up.

1:27:05 Some good feedback from one of our producers who of course anonymity guaranteed in this case about the new shoe bomber and What that could be about course we immediately say we know what the hell is going on with this. Why do we have this? so-called guy smoking a cigarette or you know, you know then claiming the information was so sketchy the first thing I'd like to do is I'd like to play some of the air traffic control tapes for you and that actually kind of placed it a little bit into context. Apparently this diplomat from Qatar announced that or made the joke that he was lighting his shoe on fire while in the air because only 20 minutes after it happened, this is what went out on air traffic control.

1:27:58 I like that too. We'll let the guys know in the back, the air marshals. who apparently have only arrested four people since they were installed. In fact, there's more air marshals who've been arrested for DUI and other offenses than they've actually arrested on airplanes. That's a good use of the taxpayer's money. Yeah, it's fantastic. So what is this all about? Well, one of our anonymous producers says, a friend of mine is in risk management for Deloitte, that's Deloitte and Touche, currently in negotiations

1:28:53 between the TSA and the Department of Defense for new Boeing technology. Says my friend represents the TSA, we believe the Department of Defense is making TSA out to look bad. Everyone involved, including my friend who represents the TSA, wants the TSA to lose the negotiation because they're regarded by everyone in government and business as buffoons. It would be easy to pay a diplomat to light a smoke on a plane. Making sure the diplomat was Middle Eastern makes good headlines and TSA looks bad. I think that's an interesting angle. Well...

1:29:29 The guy's an idiot if he took a payoff just to do that because there's been too many instances. I mean the original shoe bomber, what's his name? I can't remember. He actually lit his shoe on fire. Who actually lit his shoe on fire, got conked on the head by one of the passengers with a fire extinguisher and beat the crap out of by everybody else. I mean, one of the things we have to realize, and I think which is something that people kind of ignore when we move toward a nanny state, is that people really can take care of themselves. They don't need necessarily, you know, all this help from marshals. Because in fact, if it wasn't for the passengers themselves on many of these incidents, it would have gone out of control before. You know, there was always a passenger nearby, the guy who, the crazy kid from Yemen. It was the same thing. It was that Dutch guy who jumped him.

1:30:19 and you know you mean Yemen right by the Gulf of Aden? You mean that Yemen? You mean where the Stargate's letting out more fish? Okay. Hey, you know what? Even if it let out more fish, that's good too. It is. They need fish there. We need fish. So anyway, so there's, you know, it's, I don't know. I don't think this is plausible. It's an interesting theory though. Well, it's nice to know that the TSA is actually bidding on commercial projects. That's pretty cool. Well, you know, you gotta do something to make money. But I think it's humorous that I don't know who this anonymous reporter is, but the idea that everyone thinks they're a bunch of buffoons I think is borne out by the fact that they are buffoons perhaps? Yeah, I think so. You're running into some nice ones here and there, but it's pretty far and few between. Most of them are officious jerks.

1:31:13 I've got to say the ones that are at the smaller regional airports, at least the ones that I deal with, Burbank and Oakland, they're nice. Actually, of course, Burbank and Oakland is a good combination. They haven't put the x-ray machines in the Oakland airport yet. That's a plus. I try to fly out of there mostly. And they're actually pretty nice in Seattle too. I haven't run into too many characters. San Francisco's they're very officious and they take way too long to look you know they look at your you come up to them and they get that little blue light I don't even know what that thing does I guess it looks at some something on your driver's license because they won't let you know they put it at the license. What is the deal with that? You know this that that's so weird I mean what are they looking at?

1:32:03 They're not looking for anything. And by the way... They just make it look like they're looking for something. And then they hold the license up and look at you and look at the license and look at you and look at the license and look at you and look at the license and they say, hmm, looks like... And it's always that uncomfortable moment. Do you look back at them? Because if I look back, you know, I know they're going to see in my face like, cocksucker. I always smile. I give them a big funny smile. I sure do. But what's interesting here, what's really interesting, something changed in the procedure which I was thinking about the other day. It used to be You'd hit that first person in the mouth, so they do the blue light, they check it, and then they would write something. Basically, they just like sign their name now, but they used to write a little checkmark or SSSS, which meant secondary screening.

1:32:48 And then before you would go through the metal detector, you would have to show your boarding card to another agent who then would say, oh, wait a minute, this guy's been tagged. Let's give him a secondary. But now they just put their signature on it like they're signing autographs, like they're a rock star. and no one looks at your boarding pass anymore. So who was doing the actual profiling? I mean, so what is the purpose of that signature other than to cover their own ass like this guy was checked? Do you remember what I mean, John? It used to be like they would write a checkmark, you had to show that to someone else and then you could go through. I think it's still up for grabs because I was last couple times I've flown there's the one of them like scribble all over the one there was somebody at Oakland as a matter of fact scribble all over circled this circle that check this and then they made a mess out of the thing It's like scribbling on the menu at McDonald's when you're eating a happy meal. It makes no sense They're just there to scribble. In fact, they probably can't write they just scribble

1:33:48 And so the next thing, and the other thing that by the way that they changed is that there used to be a process where you kept your, keep your boarding pass, keep your boarding pass, keep your boarding pass. Yeah, and then the other one says you don't need your boarding pass, put it through. And the, and they would, I remember getting checked for the boarding pass after walking through the metal detector. You get your boarding pass, you know, and you just see out here and they look at it. And then they, it's like I was just checked a minute ago and you think I'm switching boarding passes with who? They don't do that anymore. I'm telling you. No, they don't. They don't do that anymore. You got another clip or what do you want to do? Well, let's see. Do I? It's not up on the screen. Then while you're looking for that, interesting article in San Diego News about which kind of in a way back up my earthquake machine theories talking about the weird cloud patterns before earthquakes. And they've got a number of pictures including a beautiful picture

1:34:50 over Carmel Valley five days before the Baja California earthquake. And it's a sky that I've never seen before. Cloud formations that, by the way, look very reminiscent of those weird radar that you call interferences over Australia that we've been seeing for the past couple months. Kind of circular, more like ninja star. And you've got to think if somehow that may not be related to HAARP, Where are the signals are sent and bounce and maybe it's done ahead of time and i don't know it's just but it's i think more mainstream news. Start the union tribune i'm seeing more mainstream news picking up on this. On these weird you know we had reports in chile.

1:35:38 You know, the sky was all kinds of strange colors, weird cloud formations. Yeah, that could be from the piezoelectric effect. Yeah, but this is five days... Oh, you mean from HAARP? No, not from HAARP. From the ground moving. No, but this is five days before. Yeah, it could be. I don't know, maybe these things, I mean, they think that the frogs go nuts a few days or the day before. They don't do it just a minute before. Do you actually ever believe in any of this stuff? No, not really. I do believe in the theory that HAARP is being used as a transmission, a way to speed up global transmissions of radio signals. I kind of buy into that. What does that mean? Let's go to a clip. Okay. Because a new terminology has cropped up. This should have followed the clip with the TSA because I find a new

1:36:31 cop term in this clip and this is a non-story that I picked up up in the from one of the Seattle news stations. A total non-story, completely non-story, ridiculous but what fascinated me was the new term. Hit it. It's what? Man without bomb. No, I didn't know which one to play. Yeah, man. I was just guessing like maybe this one. All right. What looked like a bomb in Spokane Valley ended up being household items strapped together with duct tape. Police tried to negotiate. It was about you. That's how you travel.

1:37:06 Always. I was sold items with duct tape. Strapped together with duct tape. Police tried to negotiate with a man who had that device strapped to his chest. They eventually got him to strip and then it was determined it was nothing dangerous. He had something on his chest. He was obviously having some kind of mental episode. We divorced him from that item. We're taking him to the hospital to be evaluated. The man was not arrested and no charges will be filed. Okay. Have you ever heard that term before? We divorced him from the item. I'm going through that myself right now. I'm trying to divorce myself from an item. Now that's a cop term. We divorced him from his weapon. I didn't know he was married to the weapon. What is the actual definition of divorce?

1:38:02 Is that only in this term it means separate? I guess it's probably a proper term, but this is, you're right, I think this is like typical, yeah, you know, typical cop's trying to sound like they have a vocabulary. Yeah, we've divorced him. Divorce, noun, one, the legal disillusion of marriage, two, a complete or radical severance of closely connected things. Yeah, well they get some tape to you with duct tape is pretty closely connected. Yeah I don't know so they just hit and get my nation east for a second right in the mouth of course they ran through this digital digital economy bill

1:38:51 which pretty much closes down the internet whenever... well, that's it. It's over. You might as well move out of the country if you want to have internet pretty soon. People will have to get new routers, which of course will have back doors. If you're caught downloading illegal stuff, then you can get cut off and you can't get an internet connection. Of course, it's going to kill the whole concept of open Wi-Fi and internet cafes. But the right Honourable Stephen Timms, who is the United Kingdom's Minister for Digital Britain, who is apparently the guy behind this Digital Economy Bill, sent a letter to another Member of Parliament explaining why the Digital Economy Bill needs to go forward. And I'd just like to read this to you because this is Mr Digital Britain, the guy who understands it all. It reads in part, quote,

1:39:47 Copyright owners are currently able to go online, look for material to which they hold the copyright, and identify unauthorized sources for that material. They can then seek to download a copy of that material, and in so doing, capture information about the source, including the intellectual property address. What does that mean? Well, he means IP address. Oh, you're kidding. That is too funny. Which is internet protocol, except he writes the intellectual property address, which shows you how these guys are thinking. Well, no, it shows you what boneheads they are. This is like the Vivek Kundra thing that I always complain bitterly about. They don't know anything. They're bullshitters.

1:40:39 Yet they ram this bill through with like 40 guys in and kept the rest out or the middle of the night or however they did it. Yeah we got a sound. Oh yeah, that sounds good. This sounds good. Let's sign it. It's an actual property address. What a douche, huh? Unbelievable. I love it. And something we just can't overlook, I know we've talked about it but it keeps coming back in the news and it's really just not being analyzed by anyone. Everyone should be up in arms about this. That there is now apparently executive privilege to go and kill American citizens without due process.

1:41:19 Yeah, I'm concerned about this too. So this is about Anwar. This is murder. Isn't this murder? Yeah, well this is like, yeah, murder. It's like what they did with Gary Weaver, which is a guy we have to always remember. You know, some sharpshooter, they know who he is. The FBI went to raid this guy's camp because he was a tax protester and kind of a screwball. And they go shoot his wife dead, the sniper. Right next to him, right next to him in the doorway. Yeah. And it's like a double homicide and they know who the guy is who did it. He was under orders obviously to do it. No charges were ever filed and why not? They charge people for like, you know, running over somebody's stubbed toe. I mean, it's unbelievable. Charges never filed. Makes no sense. Yeah, this seems a bit more egregious though.

1:42:03 So we have Anwar al-Awlaki. I think it's more egregious is that the president has a hit list. And he can put you on the hit list and it's like a dead or alive thing, which of course George Bush planted that meme firmly, dead or alive, for Osama Bin Laden. Boy, you know, Nixon wished he had this. This power, you mean? Yeah. So Anwar al-Awlaki

1:42:44 The CIA has been expressly authorized by the White House to kill him no matter where he is found. And he is an American citizen. Now, this guy may be the worst guy on earth, but we just don't go out and kill American citizens without due process or bringing them in. That's just not how it works. Isn't that just a complete meltdown of That's ridiculous. We don't, this guy's never been on trial. We don't know what he's got to do with anything. It's all hearsay. It's the worst kind of evidence. It's just like, Oh, it's like talking about your neighbor and saying, you know, that they did this and they did that. You don't know. And the other possibility exists though, which I have to consider is that this guy is, uh, is, is, is actually some sort of a double agent. And then this murder of him is just an extraction process and he'll never really be killed. It'd just be put back into some other situation.

1:43:36 I'll let that for an idea. American counter-terrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of, and here's our favorite John, A-L-A-P-A-Q-A-P, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Yeah, our new one. The affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, so they're franchise. And they have the affiliation papers to pay for it and they get 10 cents for every link. That's right. It's like a giant AdSense. AdSense on the Arabian Peninsula. Why don't we just call it AdSense? L-AdSense. They say they believe that he has... They say they believe... They say they believe he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and Americans abroad. Officials said, of course, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

1:44:27 The danger Al-Waqqi poses to this country is no longer confined to words. No, really. He's gotten involved in plots. Yeah, this is a new one. I'm hearing a lot of plots. Plots. There's a plot. So, yeah. Death penalty imposed without due process. It's weird and people are not... Well, what's really double weird about it is that Obama being a very liberal Democrat and supported by very liberal anti... And a constitutional law scholar. Yeah, well, but the typical voter for him is against the death penalty, let alone, what would they think about this? This isn't even the death penalty by due process. It's just out-and-out murder.

1:45:17 How can his supporters support this? It's beyond me. I mean, I can see where some conservatives would think it's fine, but I can't see the Obama supporters supporting this at all. They should be up in arms about it. I mean, every two-bit super rapist who's a serial killer in California, every time they want to put him in a gas chamber, they have midnight vigils that go on for weeks on end. No, but I still think this is something this whole thing stinks to high heaven. I think that this is this whole It may just be giving the guy credibility so I can go deeper. I don't know who knows or he's a CIA agent gone rogue where they have to take out but still you know, that could be true You can't this is it we this is where we this is where our unless we get some sort of tip-off based on you know, some piece of information that gets

1:46:11 Sent like in a newspaper article where there's a little one subtle piece of information that could tip you off We're come it's it's completely impossible to determine what the deal is with this whole story We're just in the dark speaking of sketchy reports a new report circulating the Kremlin authored by France's Dictator General for external security DGSE and which was obtained by Russian, by Kremlin intelligence, quotes French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who of course recently was hanging out with our president, stating President Barack Obama is possibly insane.

1:47:00 According to the report, Sarkozy was appalled at Obama's vision of what the world should be under his guidance and amazed at the American president's unwillingness to listen to either reason or logic. Sarkozy's meeting where these impressions of Obama were forced took place, of course, about two weeks ago in the White House. And upon his leaving he says he scolded Obama and the US for not listening close enough to what the rest of the world has to say, which is actually, that was reported by Associated Press. But the actual words, because it is a translation, dangereux aliené, which means a lunatic.

1:47:50 He might be insane. By the way, that's my travel tip people are always looking for. When you go to France, and I've never had a bad time in France, I love going there, but one of the things you have to do is you have to appreciate what they're up to in terms of their wine and food and everything, the designs, the way they lay out their stores. and you have to constantly compliment them. And so if you go to France and you go, oh my God, this is like the best thing I've ever had, instead of me trying to be the lib American who's trying to be cool, you actually become very emotive and you emote everything. You say, this is fantastic. If we only had stuff like this in the United States, it would be much better there. And things like that, and the French,

1:48:46 to They're suckers for compliments to an extreme. Let's put it that way, but when you do this all kinds of free stuff starts showing up It's amazing. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, I mean I'm talking about major major major Free freebies that you start getting from these French guys. It's astonishing. What do you think of this? What about this? What about this here take this home really? Yeah, have my have my sister

1:49:27 Just short of that. Really? Okay. I think we need a trip to France. You're just following my lead. Don't act your normal self. That's funny. Just a couple of things from Gitmo Nation OG. I must say, I just received my California state income tax refund. It was a real check. It wasn't huge, but... Was it an IOU? No, it was not an IOU. Unlike Hawaii, North Carolina and New York who are delaying refunds this year, Minnesota has delayed some business tax refunds and Alabama is waiting to send out millions of dollars in refunds because they're out of cash. Missouri did this last year, actually to beef up its cash reserves. Now the queer thing about this, of course, is it's not the state's money. It's our money.

1:50:23 It's like it's your dough and they're holding on to it. And I find that disconcerting to say the least. In, where is this? In Ohio, in Jefferson County, they've actually, you know, they do want to send back the income tax returns, but of course they're cutting the budget. And the sheriff whose staff went down by, what is it? I'm looking for it. He had a huge cut.

1:51:01 And people say, well, you know, what are we going to do about security? Well, he says, you can arm yourself. That might be the best thing to do. Arm yourself and protect yourselves. And Judge Mackey, who was a part of some of the budget cuts, said the same thing. People have to arm themselves. We're going back to the good old days, John. Open carry. Yeah, boy, that's big. Open carry. And there's one thing I wanted to ask you about before we leave because it's kind of like a real news thing, but it caught my eye yesterday and I tried to find a clip and of course I was watching it on the cable box that doesn't have rewind in the kitchen. And it's about the Civil War. And this has kind of been bothering me. So the, what is it, McDonald, what is he, a congressman? What the hell is he?

1:52:02 I'm sorry, Virginia governor proclaimed April as Confederate History Month. And so in this proclamation, he forgot to mention slavery. And so everyone got up in arms and the president said, oh, this is horrible. And of course, he says he rescinded. He said, I'm sorry. That was clearly an oversight. But now I'm watching like CNN. And what I'm hearing is, well the Civil War was about slavery. I'm like, no it wasn't. I mean it was a part of it. But the Civil War was not about slavery. And I'm actually seeing debates of people out loud saying, you need to read your history book. The Civil War was about slavery. John, please help me because I believe you were in the Confederate Army at the time.

1:52:53 What exactly was the Civil War about? Was it not about the... Infection in the Union Army. Yeah, was it not about the succession of the states and states' rights initially? Yeah, it was basically about states' rights and the fact that a lot of the states were... I mean, there was underlying the origins of the Civil War was an issue of slavery because The southern states were starting to feel that the federal government, which was really just set up as just a little bureaucracy to keep commerce at an even keel and to resolve issues between the states. They started to feel at some point, and by the way, this is all debatable, but there's a lot of, you can read, Kenneth Stamps got a really good book about the origins of the Civil War where he's found a bunch of essays.

1:53:36 that of the time that Altina described. And when you read the stuff from at the moment, it seemed to be that you just didn't want to get pushed around by the central government. They were totally against and they thought that the central government was taking too many liberties and they decided to split off and form their own government, the Confederate States of America. And they started it, of course, by attacking Fort Sumter And it just kind of deteriorated. And then once Lincoln freed the slaves, then it became only about slavery. And that's when it got all these... By the way, there's another issue here, which is that this was instigated, at least it was believed until World War I, that much of this war

1:54:28 between the states was instigated by Britain and France who wanted to grab most of our country. Yeah, they wanted to break it up. Especially to get the gold out of California, which we discovered earlier. Right, divide and conquer. And so the whole thing has very screwy beginnings. I mean, if it wasn't for England and France, it's quite possible that we would never have had a civil war. So this douchebag, Don Lemon on CNN, have you ever seen this guy? He's on a lot. Don C. Lemon, I think he is. And it's important for me to mention that he's black. And he has these two Civil War reenactment people on, who of course are in their get-ups. And he literally says, you know, people who reenact the Civil War, it's offensive to me as a black man. I'm like, what?

1:55:24 Because that represents, you know, when you reenact the Civil War, that's all about slavery and you're celebrating slavery. I'm like, what? And then he gets this other black guy on who is also a Civil War reenactor and this guy and he was on via satellite and this is why I got to find this clip. I'll find it if I can. If anyone has it, send it to me. You know, we got to play it on Thursday. So this other guy, this black Civil War reenactor, he starts saying this was not about slavery. Yes, it was a part of it. And then Don Lemon does, oh, I'm sorry, I got to cut you off. We got to go to commercial. Before the guy can even get in and start his explanation it happened three times But he actually was saying oh, so you think slavery is good slavery is a good thing like no I don't think that well when you when you celebrate You know what is it when you celebrate Confederate History Month you're celebrating slavery

1:56:20 It's like no, and does this do you think have anything to do with the with the fact that there are 12 or 13 states who are now suing over the health care bill and are talking about states rights and and are they trying to steer this conversation away from what the Civil War actually was about and trying to I guess marginalize that out of the conversation and and I'd like to know for our younger listeners out there. What is in your history book in school? Because there's a lot of talk on this show about here's what the history books tell us. And then the other... The books have been rewritten time after time. If you want to read about the Civil War, the causations and the rest of it, Kenneth Stamps has got a good selection of essays. I don't have it here and I can't remember the title but I'll get it for next week.

1:57:08 which is very interesting to read because there's some really wild theories that came out in the 1870s and 1880s. But if you read any history book, try to go to one of these library swap meets where they sell all their books off and find some old book from an American history book from the late 1800s and sit down and read it. You're gonna read like, it's like reading stuff you've never heard of because the history has been massaged and rewritten and massaged and rewritten. It's like the Japanese do with World War II. They have rewritten the history of the World War II to the point where the young people in Japan think that, you know, that all it was about was about bombing them with an atom bomb. There's no other, really nothing else to it. It was just a bunch of pricks from the United States bombing us with an atom bomb. And, you know, you go back closer to the source

1:58:01 you know, closer to 1860 and you start to see, you know, a different picture painted and it has been reinterpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted and then politically correct, political correctness crept in and agendas crept in and the next thing you know what you're reading, which is one of the reasons homeschooling is better than public schooling, what you're reading is garbage. It's just a mishmash of, I mean, it's good to read but you're not reading anything real, it's just terrible. The president says, quote, I don't think you can understand the Confederacy and the Civil War unless you understand slavery. That just sounds slanted. I think people are inciting racial hatred in America. Oh yeah. I think so too. They really are. They're going out of their way. And I think there is, in a way, still a North and South fight going on for industry or, you know, maybe the Confederacy and the Union divide never ended.

1:59:00 It's weird. If you talk to southerners, they tell you that the Baptist church for sure is still stuck in 1860. And the general vibe around the world And I remember this quite well from watching a Top Gear episode which really accentuated got me quite mad actually where all the one where he drove around the south Yeah, I drove they drove around the south with like, you know I'm gay on the side of his car and stuff like that And of course they pick a punch a bunch of choice rednecks yelling at him and trying to beat him up There is a general vibe around the world that people in the south of America are all racist, they all hate black people. And you know, I just don't find that to be true. It's not true and the fact is yeah, there's rednecks down in the south, but like somebody pointed out to me once, anytime there's like a disaster, something happens in the state of Texas, the news media looks for the dumbest guy they can find to get them to say something really stupid to make it look like all Texans are idiots. Which they certainly are not.

2:00:03 throughout the south and if you actually go to the south you find this is you know they got great universities and colleges and you know one of the best technical universities that keeps up with Caltech and MIT is Georgia Tech it's right in the middle of Atlanta there's not they're not producing a bunch of dummies and there's a lot of smart people all over the south and there's a lot of dummies but it's the same thing in the north you can stereotype is really designed to be hurtful and it's part of the I would blame the New York Times and the impetus of the media, the northern media, the northern dominated big media for this whole thing. I mean if you watch CNN, those people aren't stupid and they're all in Atlanta.

2:00:46 So I would advise people to go to the show notes at noagendashow.com because you just brought up a very interesting point and under the Ministry of Truth heading there is an article you sent that to me John I presume for the show notes. Yeah. And it's It's from, was it Jihad Watch? Is that who wrote this? Yeah, Jihad Watch did a deconstruction, I mean, bigger one than I would ever do. Yeah, it's long. It's an extreme of an article that ran on April 2nd in the New York Times, which was titled Muslims Try to Pray in Spanish Cathedral.

2:01:22 And the New York Times, if you read the Jihad Watch version of the story and you read the New York Times version, you realize that there is a subtle kind of... Well, the article really starts off by saying, you know, the New York Times didn't warn anyone about Jews being killed. The New York Times didn't warn anyone about... In World War II. Yeah, in World War II. New York Times, you know, if they had maybe things would have been different. Essentially, they're saying the New York Times is full of shit. Totally. Yeah, that's essentially what it says. But it's really good to read that because, you know, the New York Times is the paper of record and and of course we all know that they have your birth date correct.

2:02:03 But I'll tell you this deconstruction is quite good. It's quite good I mean it really breaks down the New York Times article and how it's a piece of propaganda pro-muslim by the way propaganda trying to ignore the fact that there is a At least some Muslims that are out there trying to cause trouble. Yeah, you know they're also on Facebook causing trouble. You know how many times I get friended by Or I get a friend request from Muslims telling me that I should join all these great groovy people in their group. So quite a lot. And I wonder if then, of course... If they want you to join the great groovy people in their group. Yeah. I don't think so.

2:02:47 I don't think so because I'm more worried that there are a bunch of CIA shills who will then come back and say he even had friends of Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula on his Facebook. Of course, that's exactly what's going on. Yeah, honey butts. John, enjoyable as always. We have a new Dvorak Horowitz unplugged on NoahGenestream.com and a new daily source code for your listening pleasure. And we'll be back later on in the week. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from the Buzzkill Lodge in the Pacific Northwest, where it's actually quite pleasant, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday. Early service right here on NO Agenda.