Episode 187 · Thursday, 1 April 2010

4-Fools Capsizes

A Georgia congressman fears a capsizing island while global leaders use secret Afghan meetings and scripted television dramas to reshape international policy and carbon markets.

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About this episode

Representative Hank Johnson of Georgia sparked a viral firestorm after expressing fears that the island of Guam might tip over and capsize due to an influx of military personnel. During a House Armed Services Committee hearing, Admiral Robert Willard was forced to clarify that the Navy does not anticipate the island flipping. This moment of congressional confusion serves as a backdrop to a broader investigation into distractive news cycles and the sinking of a South Korean destroyer.

Geopolitical tensions rise as President Barack Obama makes a surprise visit to Afghanistan, allegedly to facilitate a secret meeting with Chinese leader Hu Jintao regarding a 50-year drought cycle. In Russia, the Moscow subway bombings lead to a ruble devaluation and calls for the death penalty, while the CIA reports the defection of Iranian scientist Shahram Amiri. Meanwhile, EU President Herman Van Rompuy uses an Atlantis metaphor to call for global governance and carbon market compliance. Domestically, the Senate considers the Cybersecurity Act, which would grant the President an internet kill switch, as whistleblower Andrew Maguire survives an assassination attempt after exposing gold market manipulation by JP Morgan Chase.

Leo Laporte inadvertently ruins his own TWiT network April Fools prank by leaving his 24/7 live stream active, revealing the gag to fans prematurely. A listener-led Facebook ad campaign by Pranav Parikh targets international audiences, while a domestic dispute between listeners Heather Bean and Jeff Glennon erupts over the purchase of a Knight's Ring instead of an engagement ring. The episode concludes with a deep dive into Law and Order SVU scripts that appear to target talk radio hosts like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Leo Laporte, TWiT Network April Fools Prank Failure

A planned April Fools' Day prank involving Leo Laporte and the TWiT network failed after Laporte inadvertently revealed the gag during a live stream. The bit was intended to feature a fake announcement that Laporte had purchased the show, but his 24/7 camera presence alerted fans to the joke prematurely.

leo laporte· twit network· april fools· randy asher· podcasting

00:01 There's no tech reporting going on. It's all lame! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's April 1st 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 187 This is No Agenda Absolutely no foolin' and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I missed my cue, of course. I could tell by the timing there because we have a lag all the time on this show. Northern Silicon Valley here. No April Fools John C. Duvorak.

00:44 It's 923. I don't think we've ever started this late. No, no we've started later than that unless i had an absolute technological meltdown well it was a number of just one thing after another this is april fool so we can start late yeah so uh you want to talk about that briefly before we get into executive producers? Yeah we're we had this April... I know wait let me correct you right off the bat not WE Kimo Sabe You sent me an email said look it's a tradition. I got to do an April Fools gag just say yes So the whole thing, unfortunately the clip has been dissected but so here was the idea

01:27 And by the way, I am known for these fabulous April Fool's gags. Oh yeah! You're like the wacky uncle with a slideshow when it comes to that. So I say well I got an idea we'll have Leo make the announcement... Actually it came from Randy Asher our One of our artists for Nerds on the Arc came up with this idea and so he did the art. So I said, well you know we can work around this and so the idea was going to be that were gonna do a third show but it's gonna be on Leo's twit network and Leo would announce that he kind of got carried away I guess and said that he bought us out

02:04 And so he did, but the problem is I contacted his people and said hey here's the gag. Here's what we want to do with Leo is going to have this in there. I want Leo to record that he's buying us or you bought our third show or something like that something funny and then You were... I was gonna get pissed off. I was gonna get angry. You're supposed to get pissed off and then we got to act a little bit Yeah! I was looking forward to the acting part Oh, when you do this acting you could, y'know, give us a little bit of it

02:42 I can't believe you've done that John after 187 episodes, 180... This is bullshit John. This is absolute crap! Do I have to go dig through the show? I told you about this two weeks ago. So anyway we're gonna do some acting and now- Wait a minute wait wait wait Mickey You're a professional actor how'd we do it That's right. She just quit Mickey just quit acting all together she's hey, you know It's pretty hard to top that kind of material and that is this pure genius? That's gold baby That's Oscar-winning material right there But because Leo Essentially has flipped out some night a few years back and has decided to put himself on the air 24 7

03:30 He does the recording live, you know with the cameras on him yesterday. Which of course blows up the whole joke. It blows the whole gag and I'm getting like tweets from everyone hey April Fool's coming out from Leo now they think it's Leo's gag. Yeah yeah. It's completely ruined! Leo gets all the credit Serves us right. And then I was going to complain about the fact that I can't get a bit part in the movie. So, so but the whole thing blew up because Leo has camera on him 24 7 and I think this is some psychological thing because he's always saying stuff they would never say on any of his shows you know it looks like it's like his alter ego basically. Well this what happens! You know? You forget and then just all sudden everything's out there

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Congressman Hank Johnson, Guam Capsizing Comments

Representative Hank Johnson of Georgia expressed concern during a congressional hearing that the island of Guam might "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation from increased military presence. Admiral Robert Willard responded by stating the Navy does not anticipate the island capsizing.

hank johnson· guam· house armed services committee· georgia· us navy

04:35 So anyway, so that was our gag of the day and it didn't you know hey we got next year to do it. So of course I've been looking around for good April Fool's gags and I'm still not convinced that this next one if it is or isn't in April fool's joke It is certainly one of the most emailed stories of the day Congressman Hank Johnson have you seen this video of him? No. Oh my god, so Hank this... I swear to God like this has to be an April Fool's joke! I'm trying to find the video edit that something is wrong here he's speaking to an admiral about Guam because they want to put you know additional like five or eight thousand troops on Guam and he keeps on going on about the size of Guam and just listen what he says. He's the congressman from Georgia

05:29 about 12 miles wide on the widest part of the island and I don't know how many square miles that is. So he sounds drunk right? Wait, wait! I have a load of data with me sir, I can certainly supply it to you if you'd like My fear is that The whole Island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. And I'm like, I'm playing this four times! Is this guy for real?

06:13 He's afraid the whole island will tip over and capsize. This is the most unbelievable thing in the world, I know this has to be an April Fools joke but it really appears to be a congressional hearing. When was it posted? The 25th of March Now April Fool's jokes technically have to be done on April 1st. They're not jokes or hoaxes, that's different So this guy is for real he starts for like a minute and half about the size of Guam and it's really long And it's you know it's like 12 miles long Does he think islands are floating? Apparently! He was like...and the Admiral yeah I'll just back it up one second The Admiral he's like uh what What?!

06:59 We don't anticipate that the Guam population I think currently about a hundred and seventy-five thousand. He just rolls right over, we don't anticipate that! Yeah, we don't anticipate the island capsizing Oh my god And the guy makes $174,000 as a congressman. Just an FYI! It's amazing how these people get in office and how the public that votes them in is so oblivious to this sort of thing I think the guy just was hammered. I mean it sounds a little hammered yeah. Oh yeah. That's possible. Look if you ever even listen to C-SPAN we have to get hammered. Yeah just listening to it like oh my god

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Executive Producers, International Wire Transfer Donations

Adam Miller, Ralph Nelson, and Luke Vanderhelm are credited as executive producers for the episode. The hosts discuss the logistics of international donations, noting that some producers are opting for wire transfers to avoid PayPal's interface and fees.

adam miller· ralph nelson· luke vanderhelm· paypal· wire transfer

07:45 Yeah, yesterday the the Haitian conference was on C-SPAN 1. I watched all three hours of it. Oh Sorry yeah It was worth it hey who's our executive producer for today? Well we got an executive producer to the tune of 333 33 Is that the first of his three installments he left no note He just threw money at us and took off Adam Miller from Perryville Missouri I think he has given us money before so it's quite possible, if you look in the records that he is either going to be a knight or should be a knight. Or wants to be a knight or doesn't care. He is very close to a knight yeah of course the way that works is if you donate three payments of $333.33 you are almost at the Knighthood's one thousand dollar threshold we kick in the extra penny and make your knight right on the spot. So Adam Miller thank-you very much for being here

08:39 Our executive producer, our associate executive producer John. We have two we have Ralph Nelson. Nelison? Nelison from Aachen. Oh, from Germany! Aachen Deutschland. Yes... Not Germany. Excuse me. He also I thought we agreed we're gonna be calling it Deutschland. Yeah, Deutschland you're right it's Deutschland and he's also apparently he's also will be a knight today oh okay let me just make a note of that And then finally, uh... Nelesen. Yeah? Luke Vanderhelm. Luke Van Der Helm. Va-nuh-Funderhelm. Wait a minute! Is it Wonderhelm or Vanderhelm? It's V A N. Okay, Vanderhelm. Okay

09:34 And he sent us an email to how to pronounce his name or what his name was because He didn't want to deal with PayPal. We do have a new arrangement people can wire the money internationally and so he wired in 2 1993 but it came in from wire from Helm van der Linares Johannes fine Dutch boy Living in Finland. In Euros Oh nice, and so what was the symbolic amount? I couldn't see it being such 219 what? Well it came as dollars to 1993 but in euros it was 183 which...I don't know I didn't see that he mentioned meant anything

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Pranav Parikh, Facebook Advertising and Twitter Tactics

Pranav Parikh initiated a Facebook advertising campaign for the show, marking a significant listener-led promotional effort from India. Other listeners suggested "crowdsourcing" marketing by renaming Wi-Fi SSIDs and creating specific Twitter lists to target public figures like Barack Obama.

pranav parikh· facebook· twitter· crowdsourcing· india

10:22 So he's our other associate executive producer. So we're going to do our knighthoods later on because we have another knight who has actually sent his own knighthood theme song or a theme tune, Jeff Smith so we have two knighthoods coming up We do have a number of PR associates that I'd like to mention John A couple of interesting things First is Pranav Parikh, I think is how you pronounce it. He's done a Facebook advertising campaign of No Agenda Yes he's actually our first Indian

11:05 Our first Indian giver. Yeah, he gave us a actually mailed in because you can't do PayPal in India apparently. Really? I think those guys run PayPal what is that? I don't know whatever the case is they he's he actually sent us uh 100 rupees or something in a form of bill 500 rupees actually. 500 yes which is I think... You're hoarding that aren't you? You're sitting on that yeah I am actually. Hoarding the dough so we... It's framed it's going to go into Agenda Studios We appreciate the Facebook campaign also Jim

11:46 Has built a World of Warcraft no agenda guild. Yeah, I love that yeah, and then I saw the screenshots they looked awesome I mean, it's kind of like second life in a way right the way it looks yeah So haven't been been into world of warcraft But if you're into World of Warcraft And I have a feeling some of our listeners slash producers might be Then you can go look for World of Warcraft guild and M we have m.m at slash slash Who actually gave a pretty good idea? We've had a number of promotional ideas such as changing your your Wi-Fi name to no agenda stream or no agenda show calm He says hey guys Here's an idea why don't all of your listeners create a Twitter list on

12:37 Such as no agenda show douchebag and put people like press sec and at Barack Obama in the list He thinks it will trend on Twitter. So I like the idea. I like these kind of you know, so yeah I do too and I think what I think is funny is that we're getting Some real creative ideas from listeners in a feedback mechanism that I don't know if really exists in normal broadcast Oh totally doesn't absolutely not and the thing is that there's much better ideas than we'd ever come up with You think? I mean, when you see the idea like the noagendashow.com SSID... That's brilliant right? It's like you look at it and say oh that's obviously a great idea that I could have thought of but you never will this is crowdsourcing in a way Totally! Two clips I want to play quick ones from James and Sarah Eakins

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

James and Sarah Eakins, Kill Radio Shoutout

James and Sarah Eakins of the band Broad Daylight gave an on-air shoutout to the show during a guest appearance on Kill Radio. The segment highlights listener loyalty and the influence of the show's book recommendations, specifically Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.

james eakins· sarah eakins· kill radio· atlas shrugged· los angeles

13:38 James is a sysadmin by day and musician by night. His wife is also his singer, they are with an outfit called Broad Daylight, myspace.com slash broad daylight And they were doing a guest spot on kill radio.org which apparently a lot of people listen to and Here's a way to piss off the hosts of a show But yeah, it was it was a long night last night I was out quite late A lot later than I thought it was going to. And the time change, don't forget you know... This is on something called Los Angeles Free Radio I guess. Because they didn't deny me! Can I somehow blame that on the government? Yes! In the morning

14:22 I would like to take this moment, just hope you don't mind to give a shout out to noagendashow.com which is just an amazing show that in the morning to you Sarah In the morning to James and we love you Adam Love you too baby And John who I've always had a man crush on John Dvorak And they'll be hearing this and I just gotta say to Adam Curry, thank you for turning me on to Atlas Shrugged. Anyways that's the side note sorry go ahead. Anymore shoutouts? Let's do some more. Oh wait anymore shoutouts? The guy is like pissed off now. Shut up! Anymore shoutouts ya stupid shout out. Hey great James and Sarah I think that was an awesome one and without a doubt the PR executive of the week goes to Eric Newman

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Leo Laporte, KFI Tech Guy Call-In

Listener Eric Newman called into Leo Laporte's "The Tech Guy" show on KFI to promote the podcast. Laporte acknowledged his long-standing friendship with the hosts but characterized the show as a "morning show" featuring a "curmudgeon" and a "conspiracy buff."

leo laporte· kfi· eric newman· mtv· tech tv

15:12 As you know, Leo Laporte does his Tech Guy show on I think it's Saturday and Sunday. It's on KFI I think it's just on one of the two days. I have a feeling it may be sometimes both days, but I listen to KFI all the time because its Los Angeles provocative talk radio. Yeah so there is a flamethrower you can't not listen to. It's like 50 thousand watt station and Leo does his tech which is kind of weird show on this station. This is the show that has Rush Limbaugh in the morning Which ironically is the guy who bumped Leo off of KNBR when Leo was a talk show host. Oh really? And pushed Leo into the tech stuff that has now made him a millionaire.

15:56 Interesting irony of ironies so one of our producers calls up and I just love this bit and my Twitter exploded, my text messaging exploded. Everyone was freaking out because of course because you're right the flamethrower size of KFI it was great Yes exactly And also want to give you some radio love and tell you i've been listening to you watching on tech TV By the way that's a great way to get your plug in is suck up to the host first Yeah, that's good. It's really good entire century you've been my generation's Walter Cronkite so much Thank you very much

16:33 for the incredible service that you provide. If you don't mind, I'm a producer on this podcast I'd like to tell you about really quickly. I see it right here is it Nightcast? Oh no thats...I used to run their servers actually at UCF student radio station It's an internet based radio station What's the podcast? Well, we like to do it in the morning. It's a podcast with some friends of mine where we like to deconstruct some media called No Agenda with John C. Dvorak and Henry. You do no agenda? Well I know about no agenda! What do you do for no agenda?! So this is the funny part... Leo is like hey you produced that show! He's thinking like the guy runs around gets us coffee and stuff right? Which most producers end up doing. Yeah not our producers.

17:22 I may, you can call me a PR associate. My job is to go around and get the word out to awaken people. So now you need to do like Howard Stern, you need something like Baba Booey He just said in the morning! You even missed that on Twitch Yeah no i missed it In The Morning is our catchphrase It's totally our catchphrase People will know about it Of course Sean C. Dvorak is good friend old friend guy who got me started in this business Is that true? Yeah. You got him started in the business, in radio business? In tech talk business. He was a talk show host. The story what happened was we were I did his show a couple of times when he was doing normal talk shows you know interviewing the local newspaper column this kind of thing

18:08 And it turned out that I didn't realize he was like a geek. Right. And so we chatted a lot about this and so, you know, he actually thought of the idea of doing a show together on tech on the weekends. Ah good! So I but they he couldn't apparently sell it to them just himself because he's a wrecking with credibility Yeah, so they had to bring me in. So I got him started in that in that way Okay, let's continue this so we can get on to the real bird his podcast no agenda is a morning show In fact if that's funny It's a morning show yeah, uh-huh it's I think Sunday mornings isn't where he and Adam Curry who you may remember? The name Adam curry He's that

18:48 The guy with the big hair. You can just hear Leo thinking, fucking douchebag! He's that uh... Douche bag? Yes. Douche bag. Uh the guy with the hair on was one of the first MTV VJs and Adam is kind of a conspiracy buff and John is kinda a curmudgeon. Take that Dvorak! That what you get for helping the guy in the business ya curmudgeon! Between the two of them it's kinda funny show No Agenda if you go to noagenda dot or like Google NO AGENDA or noagenda dot mevo dot com Find out more about it. Alright perfect. So we picked up about four or five listeners with that yeah, and no money We appreciate the effort though it's really helpful well Thank you very much to Adam Miller as our executive producer of No Agenda episode 187 Ralph Nalison and Luke van de Helm as our associate executive producers You guys by now know that you need to go out and propagate our message in our formula formula is this? We go out

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Global Distractions, South Korean Destroyer and Tiger Woods

The hosts categorize recent news events, including the sinking of a South Korean destroyer and Tiger Woods' return to golf, as "distractive news." They suggest these stories serve as smoke screens to divert public attention from more significant geopolitical developments.

south korea· tiger woods· russia· militia· distractions

19:50 We hit people in the mouth. And Adam Miller now on the second of three payments, soon he'll have one of those actual rings to hit people in the mouth with. Alright John. We got a lot of news this week that is weird God, you know the show notes we're still not sending them out on On the mailing list yet. They are off the charts I've got so many articles and things yeah, no we have this is getting ridiculous but it's time for a third show there well, we don't have the finances for it but anyway the

20:31 I don't know, there's a lot of distractive news. Distractive? I don't know if that is the real word but there are a lot distractions this week. I mean, there's just like a pot load of these things. Yeah there is the South Korean destroyer. By the way Uncle Don is going over to Korea next week so I'm gonna call him and find out and see if I can get any information yeah good luck right? Why would he... I don't know! I don't know exactly the guy's 80 but he's gonna go do something He's listed on Wikipedia you know Oh yeah

21:12 And he's supposedly retired. He is very famous. Then of course we had the militia group who were raided, we had the boob bombers in Russia which I think is probably most interesting one and there was more it just seemed not to stop. Still Tiger Woods back in the news as a bunch of celebrity stuff I don't know. Obviously there's some real something that important happened and they couldn't take a chance on covering it up with one or two distractions so they just barraged us with the smoke screens. I do have a thought that one of the things that could've happened is our president

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Barack Obama, Secret Meeting with Hu Jintao in Afghanistan

Speculation arises regarding President Barack Obama's surprise visit to Afghanistan, with claims suggesting it served as cover for a secret meeting with Chinese leader Hu Jintao. The discussion links the meeting to a purported 50-year drought cycle in China and a desperate need for water resources.

barack obama· hu jintao· afghanistan· china· water crisis

22:00 President Obama made a surprise visit to the troops in Afghanistan. Yeah, this was an interesting out of the blue story and you know And this stuff has happened before and the reports I'm getting is that he actually had a secret You there's no way to do the timetable on it because it knew you don't know exactly when he took off It's a lot of work and nothing is really you know Nothing very clear about when Air Force One left and course there's two Air Force Ones So you can easily land one. It's just all kinds of difficult information to obtain, but the reports I'm getting is that he actually had a meeting with Chinese Communist leader Hu Jintao and that the Afghanistan trip was used as cover. This is the second time at least we've talked about this may have happened during his Copenhagen visit or Copenhagen

22:57 Which also has a bunch of missing time elements. This one, of course the news media that mainstream news guys went... I said in the right wing and their left wing both had different takes on this visit to Afghanistan because you know they left-wing is great Eddie do this but the right way what does he comes in at midnight meets with these guys they're all in bed apparently like hey Barack dude like call me in the morning will ya I gotta go fight.

23:38 He was only there for a few hours. Why would he fly all the way to Afghanistan, which is miserable? That's as far as you can go! Ever hear of Skype?! I mean come on this is ridiculous... It's as far as you can go. You're in a plane for 14 hours to get there and depending on whether you went over the Pacific or over the Atlantic... Well he could refuel and fly if he has too obviously But yeah but it at the point is that it's the longest...you can't really make a longer trip than that Go be almost exactly but anyway, so he flies all that way for just for it right for to shake a couple hands and leave That makes no sense whatsoever. He had to be doing something else He's not gonna make it long trip like that without doing something else and did something else wasn't reported nobody even thought to ask So here's the theory from Russian reports because of course the Russians immediately say I over there in China We know exactly what's going on apparently China has their

24:33 half-century crisis or disaster and this I believe the last time this happened was in in the 60's which kind of makes sense on the timeline they have a 50 year drought cycle in China And the last time this happened in the 60s, it's estimated 20 to 50 million Chinese died of literally water starvation. Starvation so they couldn't grow any food and they had no water. Right bad Very bad an at that time of course I'm going say this is Nixon period and Nixon of course sent his guy Well Nixon didn't really crop up until 68

25:17 I think this happened during the Johnson era, but go ahead. Well this was around the time that George H W Bush was ambassador to the United Nations and when he started calling for the new world order and there's going to be a global solution to famine and all of this stuff and Henry Kissinger of course He went over to China on a secret visit and then we had Nixon's historic 1972 Meeting with the Chinese remember all that I mean it's hard for me to remember because I was all like nine years old. I was 50 But the reports are is that the Chinese are basically saying okay, you know now America has to help us and We need water resources And basically place to put our people

26:11 We gotta move on. Well they moved a lot of them to the San Francisco Bay Area Precisely! A hell of a lot of them So, and you don't see them right? They're like no-seems. Like he's like hey there are a lot of Chinese around here all of the sudden. A lot! The reports are sketchy but I do kind of like the theory that they're 50 year draught and I guess that they're into it...I mean we don't read about it because God forbid the news media give us some actual news and do some investigative reporting but it does seem about time that the Chinese were in for big water issue I don't know. Could be, but you know that's the problem nobody asks questions they don't... The White House press corps is a joke! They're basically lap dogs and they have to be because if they ask those smart questions they get thrown off out of them

27:03 out of the room and they never get to come back. I mean, this is one of the most corrupt situations that's slowly evolved in the press' complicit because they put up with this thing. It seems to me that if the press wanted to really ask hard questions and when somebody did that and got thrown off the bus, the entire group should say we're not doing this anymore! This is bogus what's the point of having these meetings? Just send us a memo fax it to us you know you're not answering questions you're not interacting its ridiculous but no So that was the one, that's the thing I believe it may have been covering up. Then of course the distraction slash...I think CIA, I have to really think this is a CIA deal these bombers in the Russian subways so first you know it would make so much sense because once again oh now its women because you can't profile a terrorist no could just be a chick boob bomber

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Moscow Subway Bombings, Ruble Devaluation and Heroin Trade

The Moscow subway bombings are analyzed as potential "inside jobs" or CIA operations designed to justify increased surveillance and the reinstatement of the death penalty. Following the attacks, the Russian Ruble experienced a significant drop in value against the Euro.

moscow· russia· cia· ruble· afghanistan

28:03 And although horrible of course, because there were some magic numbers. I read 30 33 more than 30 all kinds of three numbers Of people who perished during this bombing. Of course CCTV cameras didn't catch any of them because well we need some more now Yeah, that's a classic too. There are too many checklist elements on this bombing that serve some other purpose. One it serves the purposes you can't profile, serves the purpose of homegrown terrorism, serves the purpose we need more cameras because for some unknown reason all our

28:43 Brainiacs couldn't put the cameras in the right place where they knew where the cameras were or is an inside job I mean this this kind of thing is and we had this on 60 minutes when they were interviewing you I said, I'll give you a copy of the show it was last They had the jihad Jane from 2006. I didn't even know that jihad Jane had already been used previously as a moniker for female terrorists Yeah, so they had this jihad Jane who was I had a great story to tell and we don't know why this was on 60 minutes in the first place. It was it was basically a sob story how the government or somebody screwed This woman over and for all we know We don't even know if she's still working for the agency or whatever I mean it just it was all hard to tell that thing with soap

29:27 It was produced to elicit sympathy for her, for some reason. And also to give you the indication that we have... I don't know it's just like a lot of mixed messages in there and never could deconstruct it because 60 Minutes by the way except for the real obvious stories my kids can deconstruct occasionally 60 Minutes will do a profile on Sheryl Crow and then one of their kids says oh yeah she is on the record label owned by Viacom that hooked up with You know, they have the whole thing figured out. They're doing the puff piece and 60 Minutes does these all the time. They're always doing puff pieces on something they have some connection to on a money basis, some fiduciary deal or their... Well there is a financial angle to this that's interesting you bring that up let me just look at this article The financial angle was running right up to the actual bombing attack

30:25 There was like a lot of positive news about the Ruble and... Hold on, let me just get this. I've got the timeline It was very interesting Here we are Maybe i don't have it Anyway the day of the bombing The Ruble tanked Like tanked And they were like everything was great Before the bombing or after the bombing? Right after the bombing The Rubel tanked Yeah and I'm like hmm okay You know what I am no financial expert You know, I think there's a lot of stuff that goes on that involves. There was a lot of people before the 9-11 takedown at the World Trade Center. There were a lot of people who shorted the airline stops.

31:14 But March 24th, NATO and Russia clashed on the 24th of March over how to tackle the drug problem in Afghanistan. Which by the way, the Russians are now yelling at the Americans, in particular the CIA saying that they are killing millions of Russians a year because apparently a lot of the heroin is being trafficked into Russia that is coming from Afghanistan. We know this is... Well here they come! That's a military helicopter, isn't it? Yeah. Now he's here... Nothing out of the ordinary. 28th of March Russian ambassador to Tehran Alexander Sadovnikov described Moscow-Tehran relations as excellent so now they're little saber rattling hey we like Iran! 28th of March is well Russia hailed a new nuclear arms treaty

32:07 with the United States but warned that US missile defense plans could derail its implementation. 29th of March, Russia's future growth looks set to be increasingly driven by domestic demand as a recovery in industrial production supports job creation and earnings growth and then after the blast boom ruble drops the most in two months versus the euro after the Moscow blast so there is something there yeah somethings fishy...as usual And besides the fact that it's just, you know more terrorism That they didn't catch on camera and they also want to reinstate the death penalty now in Russia. In Russia? Yeah I didn't know that they ever uninstated it Well like an official death penalty usually they just walk up behind ya and its like You're dead Don't write that! You can't be a journalist no we have to kill you Now they can actually put you before some tribunal and do some stuff to you

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Dick Wolf, Law and Order Media Programming

The hosts critique the influence of television writers like Dick Wolf, arguing that dramatic series are used for social engineering and brainwashing. They reference a White House memo allegedly encouraging Hollywood producers to embed specific government-approved messages into their scripts.

dick wolf· law and order· hollywood· propaganda· white house

33:08 Alright, well uh... so that's part of the I mean this week was a very hard week to dissect. So i did of course couple things we'll do this later in the show but I did decide to go and dissect a Dick Wolf Show And people always complain about us, or me in particular. All you're doing is watching television. I watch television, I mean I watch a lot of C-SPAN but I watch regular television because most people watch television in this country and... Go figure four hours a day so we have to know what they're being programmed with it's what we do! We need to see the programming so that we can say hey look this is whats going on and you can identify certain trends

33:53 based on you talk about the reporters and the news people that give us mediocre coverage, they don't do their job half the time. And then the ones that do, you never find the material anyway because it doesn't get much broad distribution but the real writers who make money as writers I mean, they don't make as much money as a Daniel Steele writing novels. But the guys who write these screenplays those are the real writers! Not to people that work for The New York Times They're just reporters that kind of like cogs in a wheel and most of their work is mechanical These guys are the creative ones that are brainwashing you

34:30 Yeah, because they write stories that you get sucked into and it's a dramatic series. And actually there was a lot this week that was quite outrageous when it comes to stories and of course we know the connections between Dick Wolfe and well certainly Bush um...and we know that there is the Hollywood Was it the Creative Association, what is that called again? Who actually admit to putting messages into their dramatized productions. Yeah and there was a memo from the White House telling him to do it. Oh yeah sure! We want to push volunteerism you know this year of that so anyway we have some interesting clips but I also have a couple since were talking about the CIA some of

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Wolf Blitzer, Iranian Scientist Shahram Amiri Defection

CNN's Wolf Blitzer reported on the alleged defection of Iranian nuclear scientist Shahram Amiri to the CIA. The hosts criticize the "Situation Room" format for providing vague information and lacking a concrete timeline regarding Amiri's disappearance in Saudi Arabia.

wolf blitzer· cnn· shahram amiri· iran· cia

35:15 Strangeness with the Russians in the Middle East play the blitzer clip This is this is the rundown on a news story that I just still has me shaking my heads because they're cuz Blitz are Actually, the clip is I'm sorry. They think then see no it's a CIA grabs Iranian clip It's like They don't give you the timeline or the dates or anything. The Blitzer show, which is on CNN is one of the worst news shows ever and after we play this clip I'm going to prove it to you by bringing up another clip called a blitzer clip that's next that just there's no information

35:51 It's a potential gold mine of information on Iran's nuclear program. We're following reports that the United States has convinced an Iranian scientist to defect and bring along with him secrets the Tehran government doesn't want the West or the world to know about our foreign affairs correspondent Jill Doherty is here working in the story for us sorry to update our viewers what do we know about this? Okay, the man's name is Shamram Amiri We did report on him a few months ago. I think he's donated to no agenda, hasn't he? Shaman Amiri could be back and I think we have the picture that we can show it comes from Iran's press TV so here is a nuclear scientist who was working at a university that is allied with the nuclear program of Iran He goes to Saudi Arabia to this the holy sites and then

36:38 he disappears. And at that point, Iran says he's been kidnapped by the United States. However this new report that came out from ABC News says it actually, he defected to the CIA and then he has been given some valuable information as you might expect there is no confirmation coming from US government, State Department anybody officially but one of things is a bit murky wolf because it's unclear exactly what he knew. Remember when we were talking about calm? Alright, so two things about this clip actually three things one it's called the situation room so Wolf Blitzer implies that he is in some kind of

37:18 Information hub very similar or analogous to the White House's situation room when there's something going on This sounds like essentially Oh Stand by new information coming about Iran's nuclear capabilities It's just a setup to have some kind of report leak that Iran is ready to nuke us and three the question I have for you John. I'll bet you this girl is hot Yep, yep Okay She's a good-looking woman, but the thing is there's no real information here. Just a bunch of vagaries and she talks about they do this We first heard about this a couple of months ago. We don't have a timeline we don't have a sense of a timeline We don't have any clue I didn't even know you could you could defect to the CIA? I didn't think they were our country But apparently this guy did and I guess he defected what in in

38:08 In Mecca? I'm defecting to the CIA. That's a good one, I hadn't thought of that... I like it! I'm defecting to the CIA. Bad, but the worst example is so I said some sort of listen to this and say this is terrible and then I just picked up his little blitzer clip there was a he's giving news item news item news item in this one news items showed up right in the middle of a string of useless news items with no details whatsoever and as soon as I heard us away from me this like actually kind of interesting but you just blows right by it play that.

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Ali Sibat, Saudi Arabian Sorcery Death Sentence

Lebanese television host Ali Sibat faces a death sentence in Saudi Arabia for "practicing sorcery" on his psychic-themed show. The hosts discuss the absurdity of the charges and the lack of depth in mainstream media coverage of the impending execution.

ali sibat· saudi arabia· sorcery· beheading· wolf blitzer

38:45 The company's TV host is fighting for his life in Saudi Arabia. He has been sentenced to death for practicing sorcery, says he could be beheaded on Friday and older women who take daily vitamins might be increasing their risk That's great! What a segue. He could maybe be headed on Friday and older women who are taking vitamins like this is awesome by the way lot film 11 let's watch that it's unbelievable I mean these shallow reporting is beyond its astonishing to me but also I had to look up the course I you know being a citizen of the Internet's get motion look at this sorcery guy

39:27 So it's essentially the story which is more... What can he do? Can he make us magically enough money to do a third show? So Blitzer, who just baffles me how they could miss what a great story this is. Apparently this guy isn't is a show host on a TV show where he plays kind of a John Edwards character You know, like the crossing over guy. Oh yeah sure but he does it he does his bogus car neck predicting the future I see in the future The oil wells are drying up and just he's predicting is making these bogus fees an entertainer I love it And they're gonna chop his head off Tomorrow It's a setup so of course it's not real But with I bet you'll be televised I betcha

40:16 Listen, something's happening tomorrow. We need to look everywhere for the real news because I have a feeling this could be the clip of the day distraction of the week of the guy- the television host and by the way what a message What a message. I think it's great message! Hey Rachel Maddow, if you don't follow the message then this is what will happen to you. We're gonna chop your head off So the guy is just an entertainer that does this bit but there have been these guys over the years but apparently...I guess somebody decided he's predicted maybe got something right and so oh my god the guy says sorceror we have to kill him

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Trident Missile Test, Saudi Arabian Geography Debate

A Washington Post report regarding a U.S. submarine-launched Trident missile test in Saudi Arabia sparks a debate over the country's geography. The hosts question how a submarine could launch a missile "in the kingdom" given its largely desert terrain, eventually identifying the Red Sea and Persian Gulf as the likely locations.

trident missile· saudi arabia· washington post· red sea· persian gulf

40:53 So, staying with Saudi Arabia and weird news. This comes out in the Washington Post and see if you can catch what's wrong with the story The United States test-fired a submarine launched ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads during a joint military exercise Wednesday in Saudi Arabia No. Saudi Arabia is in the middle of the desert, where is the submarine? It must be offshore but that's not inside Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia could not be more in the middle of...of the desert so where did they launch it? The Trident missile launch was carried out in the kingdom the official said! In the Kingdom?! There's no there's no you can't have a submarine in the desert this is crazy

41:46 Do these guys have Google Earth? Do they even care to look at the map and say Saudi Arabia, so they've got a trident in Saudi Arabia. How does that work? Maybe they hauled the sub out of the water and hauled it down to Riyadh Had it sitting there and launched it. I don't know It's just it has to be in the water outside even Saudi Arabia borders on some some water So they could no, it doesn't no it does not Saudi Arabia doesn't it sure? No, it doesn't look go looking Google right now here. I'm gonna do with you Maps that google here people in the chat room do this Saudi Arabia is Now they're saying unless their wrong on

42:36 Yeah, it's borders on the two oceans. It has got two bodies of water next to it No it doesn't that is not Saudi Arabia! Saudi Arabia? It's huge and its got... What is that body of water there? That's where the Suez Canal is just off of it You've got Yemen down to the south you've got Oman down to the southeast What's on the west and east? You have 2 bodies of water You're going to tell me they had it in the, what is that? The Caspian Sea. We were just like two kids here we can't remember... No but this is over here you've got Mecca but then you've got basically Kuwait on the east, Qatar United Arab Emirates, you know you've got Dubai Just north of there Saudi Arabia territory and thats bordering on that water and then the whole left side of Saudi Arabia's all water

43:38 Jetta is right on the water, it looks like. Well I find it highly suspicious. This is a very strange report. Yeah, you barked up the wrong tree. You think? Okay well I could be wrong. I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong. What's the name of this body of water? So the chat room knows what's that huge body of water on the left? Alright then let me go do something I actually really did some work on You're blaming me for being late. Yesterday there was the United Nations conference on Haiti and this was a three-hour program which C-SPAN broadcast live, a lot of it wasn't French unfortunately however both Bill and Hillary Clinton

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UN Haiti Conference, Bill and Hillary Clinton Reconstruction Plan

At a United Nations conference, Hillary Clinton pledged $1.15 billion for Haiti's long-term recovery following the earthquake. The hosts argue the plan represents a "total takeover" of the country by the World Bank and NGOs, while criticizing the lack of immediate aid for displaced citizens.

haiti· hillary clinton· bill clinton· united nations· world bank

44:32 were at this conference and I couldn't even begin to pull clips because they are pulling such a smoke screen over the fact that Porter Prince has been destroyed, but now we're rebuilding all of Haiti with $11 billion worth of money. Of which the United States pledges 1.5 billion right off the bat Hillary Clinton just said it right there I didn't hear any congressional hearings about it but I guess that's okay The United Nations, The World Bank and private investors will be in charge of rebuilding hundreds of miles of roads hotels according to Bill

45:16 The Pentagon currently is now using Haiti as a training ground for Afghanistan, which just blew me away. They're using the broken down buildings as training spots for what it's like to work in Afghanistan. Britain has been cut out of the mix because they didn't... I guess they're not on board with the program. They were even denied a speaking slot which was a little brouhaha And, uh... and you know that it's amazing how bill clinton sits there and says well you know we can't wait to know is really great we're going to rebuild the entire economy were gonna rebuild the entire country but tell ya there's about a hundred thousand people who are basically live in intense we gotta help them out before the hurricane season comes and i don't understand how you can have a conference with a bunch of yahoo's like bunky moon and hillary clinton and bill clinton and

46:18 the shill president that was installed there by kicking the real president down to Africa over to Africa and still have a hundred thousand people without decent food and water twenty thousand troops practicing for work in Afghanistan for warfare in Afghanistan and they have not done a single thing to help the PM. I mean, how hard can it be? It's been six seven weeks How hard can it be? For Christ sakes get the old Katrina trailers with formaldehyde for all I care do something They're doing nothing! It is a total hijack of the country and please listen to Hillary Clinton And this blew me away

47:02 To that end, the United States pledges $1.15 billion for Haiti's long-term recovery and reconstruction This money will go toward supporting the government of Haiti's plan to strengthen agriculture energy health security and governance Okay so that's drugs child trafficking oil and tourism. We are committed to working with the people and organizations throughout Haiti, including civil society groups private businesses NGOs and citizens Nice! Total takeover And I'm very glad to see so many of them Here it comes this is what really surprised me represented here today

47:46 We will also be looking for ways to engage our Haitian diaspora. Haitian Americans have much to contribute to this effort, and we will seek specifically to empower the women of Haiti." I've said this so many times that I know I sound like a broken record but investing in women is the best investment we can make in any country and investing in the Haitian women will fuel the long-term economic recovery and progress not only for them but for their families. So what does that mean, John? I don't know! I'm baffled by it myself And i played the clip over again and by the way when she does this her body language is very interesting she puts her right hand over her heart

48:35 when she talks about this like I'm really sincere. No, actually code that's got to be something and it's like investing in women is like what man does mean children is not important men I mean what does it mean and invest in we have the best investment we can make anywhere isn't women? What is this hookers Yeah, Bill's like huh? Uh-huh. You go Hillary that's good I'll be investing in women once we get the whole casino set up it's gonna be great So this is a complete takeover of the country. It's a great country to take over, of course... Oh yeah it's no brainer! It's strategically located Bill Clinton was already involved as a special envoy now he is you know the UN Special Envoy to Haiti United Nations and and The World Bank And they just-the whole thing is all about The World Bank gonna finance this so the Haitians are screwed totally screwed

49:33 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. Shysters show up and take advantage of peoples good will and generosity It's unbelievable to me... Where is Anderson Cooper now? Hey Anderson Vanderbilt! Where are you now, now that this is happening? It's like, oh it's all... Stop the news reports. No longer important people are still dying there's pigs and people living together They gotta get rid of as many as they can before they actually do anything They're annihilating them! They're annihilating these people Yeah I know it's just a form of... yeah I think so Genocide. I think its total genocide Anyway I have a whole Haiti section in the show notes Oh one other minor thing you might find of interest

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HAARP, Haitian Earthquake Frequency Data Deletion

The hosts highlight the disappearance of frequency archive charts from the HAARP website for the day preceding the Haitian earthquake. They suggest this data deletion is suspicious and supports theories regarding the use of ionospheric heaters to trigger seismic events.

haarp· haiti· earthquake· alaska· frequencies

50:19 Of course, I believe that the Haiti earthquake was set off intentionally with an earthquake-like machine which could certainly be HAARP located in Alaska. Well here's something interesting if you go to the... The HAARP has a website and they publish charts of their frequencies so their frequencies are 18.11 megahertz 14.1 100 to 200 megahertz etc Interestingly enough, they deleted all of the archive charts of the day before the earthquake. No way? Yes! The chart archives on the HAARP website which shows the archive of their frequencies and what they're transmitting were deleted no other deletions that I could find

51:14 between 2004 and current day of any of the data except for the day before the Haitian earthquake some charts are missing like all of the charts. Well I find that peculiar yes Because you know this is what people it's not hard. There's all kinds of people monitoring this stuff, so I'm now looking for I Have received some reports from people saying that harp was very active the day before But I like it when it comes from maestro dot harp dot Alaska dot edu You know that's like a pretty a pretty official site that monitors the heart frequencies charts gone

51:53 I'm just saying. We'll take make note by the way it's the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf So we've got tridents in the Red Sea in the Persian Gulf? One of the two, didn't say which one. I'd say probably the Red Sea that's the deep one. The Persian Gulf is a dead end in Iraq Okay But it was actually not as you mentioned the Persian Gulf would be the place You do it because it's like two minute I mean the Persian Gulf is alongside on one side of Saudi Arabia and the other side is Iran And then Iraq is at the top, and so you'd go into the Persian Gulf if you know and you'd set off a missile This is like this isn't me now. I don't think they do that's too obvious It's right next to our ran They'd have to go do it in the Red Sea

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Listener Donations, Employment Karma and Relationship Drama

A segment dedicated to listener contributions features Sterling Ellsworth and Bruce Klassen, the latter of whom claims a "donation karma" helped him find work. A public dispute between listeners Heather Bean and Jeff Glennon unfolds over Glennon's decision to buy a "Knight's Ring" instead of an engagement ring.

sterling ellsworth· bruce klassen· heather bean· jeff glennon· lexington

52:41 So, well I'm happy that they just say Saudi Arabia in the Washington Post in the news reporting. It would help if they actually told us what was going on? Yeah a little more details would be useful. And it would really help as we have... Especially when you think Saudi Arabia is landlocked! Well, Riyadh is right in the middle of the desert. Yeah I know it is but the whole thing is a desert So what would help us if we actually had more help? We have John, we have your son Eric now participating and and working on a lot of stuff for us. The first thing to tackle was the supporters of the show, and have no agenda stream just to get their names right and their donations right. I said on the pre-stream this morning we're actually getting to the point where we're gonna have to shit or get off the pot And one thing that were missing is the shit part We need more money! I'm just going to say it Don't send us blankets Just send us cash

53:43 Because we're never gonna get to three shows a week this way. You know, blankets are okay! I'm not really in that area of tech we did get... And we got the Team Vegan t-shirts Yeah and hold on one second, I gotta get Ryan Lee. Oh yeah Sorry about that. Also call out Oh, thanks to the mic. Call out to Ryan Lee who sent us... well he sent me a University of Kentucky sweatshirt or beauty by the way and a couple of T-shirts and he says one of the T-shirts is for you

54:23 Yeah, that's our vegan in residence right? No no this is another guy. Oh okay well I like those too and it'll keep us warm when i can't pay the heating bill thanks so uh that's but we do have some actual donors that sent us cash instead of clothes yes I can say the Kentucky thing was fantastic. But we have, oh by the way number 12 we have our old friend from Santa Barbara coughing up another 77-77. Oh Sterling? Sterling Ellsworth? Exactly! Nice. Thank you Sterlings. Thomas Alley in Belleville Ohio $65 and he

55:11 Says he gave 65 to the EFF org and thought we deserved the same amount Paolo Santos. Hey, by the way Thanks for using his nickname Sorry, yeah Tralius you got to read the notes I'm looking at the note. I don't see oh there You know it's a scroll over to the side this spreadsheet is really wide Then we have Paulo Santos And it says Istanbul, Istanbul Portugal. And I'm not sure where in Portugal there's Istanbul, Istanbul. That seems more like Turkey to me But what is the Portuguese name? Santos. In fact Santos used to be the best linguiça maker in the San Francisco Bay Area This company guy lived in San Lorenzo, this guy was Santos Linguisa and he ended up shooting two health inspectors and killing them

56:08 Because they wouldn't let him make this linguisa the way it's supposed to be made and he got fed up and killed these poor guys I feel sorry for him, and they threw them in the slammer And then he died in there so that's the sausage recipes lost Paulo says tell Adam to give John a break with his screw-ups with the money right The screw ups consist of things like not mentioning somebody's nickname Eduardo Martinez San Jose California and he's another guy, you're getting a lot of action for the Daily Source Code. This guy is also calling out for it Well the Daily Source Code of course is part of our NoAgendaStream.com initiative and we were planning on getting more shows and really building up something that over time I think could become very valuable something to point too His donation by the way

57:01 $14 x 4 so that you John Dvorak, myself, Christina and Mickey can get some of that gourmet mac and cheese. It's San Francisco. I love Mimi and Eric out of the picture well Let them have a great The show Yeah, she does sometimes she and her buddy Dexter something but she's like dad you make me tired Doesn't want to hear about it poor kids anyway He says he'd not as he can't be called a douchebag and also have Bruce Klassen in Valencia

57:46 who has another long note. His note is actually pretty simple what we've noticed is Some kind of karma thing that seems to be working when people donate to the show during unemployment they actually Appear to get work pretty quickly. That's what I know this is a this is not bogus We're not making this up and people keep giving us more example after example, and this is another one yeah so Bruce says I'm going to take take the This karma To task he has an experiment. He has a So he donated in January and landed the job after six months of unemployment, so this gig is about to end these work for hire So he's donating in hopes that the luck of a no agenda donation will cause my employment to continue He will report back when or if there is news In the meantime he said he's donating to the show

58:40 $55.10 double nickels on the dime appreciated and good luck in Lexington, Kentucky double nickels on the dime Matthew Wilbur in a Ruther Glenn Virginia He's looking for a new job So he's just gonna test the theory Timothy white Paul Paul's bow Washington by the way if you're in Washington state there's two really great little towns that you should visit one is Paul's bow it's an old second Norwegian town and it's really pretty. And it's got, you know the covered sidewalks It's really a glamorous little town and the other one is Port Townsend Those are the two cool towns in the whole state does nothing really much else than besides those two places He doesn't want to The interesting

59:30 Note I found today came from Heather as we have Heather and Jeff on this This back-and-forth donation thing yeah, Heather well Let me just mention a couple more these 55 tens while Robert Richter Tampa Florida Victoria Shellhammer MERS Mertz town Pennsylvania to all Americans. We didn't get any over many overseas of the Portuguese David What is it? burneth Burneth in Raleigh, North Carolina. Great place by the way. Barry Toner, Liz Byrne United Kingdom, UK $50 and 50 cents Heather and her boyfriend Jeff Glennon, Heather Bean and Jeff Glennon have been going back and forth using our show as a mechanism of communication Yeah which by the way we're not the best marriage counselors

1:00:27 in the world, just saying. But we, but we do it. It's getting to be a good little soap opera I know it could be bogus but she says I want to call out my you gotta remember she called him out as being a loser for not donating he then donated and said he's gonna be a knight and then she now says I wanna call up my boyfriend Jeff Glennon as an asshole. Whoa! I don't have a jingle for that. Douchebag For spending the money he should be saving from my engagement ring He's spending on a no agenda night's ring. Maybe he is going to give you the nights ring. Yeah, really? Wouldn't that be nice? Yeah! When are these things... I mean, I don't want to sound like a broken record but they are actually... We're finalizing the design we have about six vendors lined up It is real though right this is this is a real deal yeah it was just a matter of finding the vendor that we want to use

1:01:26 And Eric's working on it, I'm working on it. We're all working on it so... The whole Dvorak family is working on it. Yeah well I've also got the word out to get somebody who are thinking of doing in Welsh you know because it has a you know... Oh instead of Latin? So hit people in the mouth and in the morning in Welsh. Daniel Howes from Portland Maine and Cynthia Archibald from Tully New York And then of course Adam Miller with his second installment of his Lucky Numbers Nighthood $333.33, he is also today's executive producer

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Intelligence Community Listeners, Academic Podcast Survey

The hosts share a message from a member of the U.S. intelligence community who validates their coverage of military affairs. Additionally, Professor Alan Middleton of Ohio University is conducting an academic survey on podcast preferences, inviting listeners to participate via GSPN.tv.

intelligence community· alan middleton· ohio university· gspn· survey

1:02:03 of No Agenda 187. Luke von der Helm is our Associate Executive Producer along with Ralph Nalison and if you're done John then I'd like to do our knighthoods for the day. Okay, well hold on one second first of all that's one of our donors says as a member of the US intelligent community you infuriate me because we tend to get the military stuff all wrong But, people like... However. But it gets corrected I don't know what are we getting wrong that people are wearing too many medals and chevrons on their uniforms? Not sure which she's talking about but people like you are necessary to bring light to things a lot of us know or true but cannot say out loud

1:02:52 And a lot of military and intelligence personnel actually send us private messaging and clue us in on stuff, which is hugely important. There's stuff going on with this show John! It is getting some traction we just need more people listening and those people have to understand that We need money to do this. Yeah, because we're not doing this...we couldn't get sponsors if we wanted too because they would just bail out at any given moment after we said something And by the way one of the biggest problems John is that we make it look pretty easy. Those guys just sit down and yap for two hours! We are constantly... That's not that easy by the way That's also challenging but all week long yesterday I got back

1:03:39 After a long day, you know I had to fly my plane to San Jose for sales so i can pay bills Then I jumped on Southwest and got in at 6. And then from six until midnight when I said goodnight to you and you were still going on for that extra hour I was doing nothing but prepping And during the day I'm always on my iPhone saving stories, checking links. Yeah and the links alone are worth the price of admission We can only do this show for as long as we're paid to do it by the listeners and we need a lot more listeners If you are one of those listener that can help us every once in awhile but obviously cannot give us a million dollars get some more listeners

1:04:22 It is valuable as your donations, but these donations are used to pay bills. And we'd like to do this full-time and we're not going to be able to do it unless we have a cash flow that can keep us kind of in the way were going now by working our asses off. Now I've got one more message I want to get before you go into the night thing. A professor, university professor studying new media gave us some money and wants us to plug something. It is Alan Middleton and he's in Groveport Ohio.

1:05:01 at the Ohio University in Lancaster. He wants people that are listening to this show, if they would he's doing a survey and wants to do some QA, we'll get a copy when he's done. Go to www.gspn.tv slash podcast survey to complete an anonymous 15 minute academic survey on their podcast preferences. Of course, this is gonna make us look good! Yeah better! So which he's going to have to take into account obviously but go to gspn.tv slash podcast survey and help the professor out we have a lot of professors that listen to this quite yeah quite a few and that's nice because I've never spoken to as many professors before in my life certainly not in school

1:05:54 So it's nice from me, and I would like to say that we have our groupie of the week Noah. I'm sorry you What broke up? Oh? Uh I was I was saying that we have another groupie our groupie of the week with a associated groupie picture We gotta get another groupie of the week yeah Yeah And she sent an awesome, uh...an awesome shot. Uh and that will be in the show notes Noah thank you very much highly appreciated they're beautiful And uhh Now ladies and gentlemen Do they have names? They have what? Do they have names? No I don't think so Ladies and gentlemen time now for our knighthoods Delivering two knights into the no agenda night round table

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Knighthood Ceremony, Ralph Nalison and Jeff Smith

Ralph Nalison and Jeff Smith are officially knighted into the "No Agenda Round Table." Smith is recognized for his extensive contribution of original jingles and music to the program, while the hosts outline the $1,000 threshold required for the title.

ralph nalison· jeff smith· knighthood· jingles· donations

1:06:46 You can tell we've got some new music here, which is original and gives us a time to really relax and enter these nights into their knighthood. So today we are very proud to welcome Ralph Nalison! Ralph please come over here and kneel before us as we now proudly knight thee Sir Ralph Nalison Now please enjoy our hookers blows and groupies over here at the No Agenda Roundtable And our second night who is probably long deserving of this knighthood, actually created the music that we're using for the knighthoods now which I think it's a fine piece of uplifting and very... almost regal music. The one and only Jeff Smith! You can find him at thejeffsmith.com

1:07:38 80% of all jingles you hear on this program have been donated by Jeff over time. If you know the price- Actually, he's pretty affordable when it comes to making stuff but if you tally it all up He is well beyond knighthood so therefore I now name thee Sir Jeff Smith! Sir Jeff Knight Of The No Agenda Roundtable Please enjoy our hookers and blow That's that off, I like that ending. Cool huh? It sounds like some uh... Can you play the ending again it's like off key on- Oh John watch out! Sorry, I slipped! Ouch Yeah okay

1:08:21 So, uh... A knighthood is obtainable by a donation of $1,000 to No Agenda. And all your donations no matter what amount and by the way we'll take a million dollars! No problem Yeah go to noagendashow.com Go to devorak.org slash NA Go to channeldevoraksslashNA And if you just want to donate to the stream go to devorak.org slash NAS NO AGENDA STREAM And that's accounted separately. Yeah, and if you donate a larger amount please also consider signing up to our $5 a month... I'm looking at the spreadsheet John there is not a lot of five dollar a month donations Well this spreadsheet I think excludes... well the spreadsheet oh yeah down at the bottom? We need we need to get that

1:09:11 Yeah, we need to get more of those $5 a month donations. I'm going to add a ten dollar a month donation for people who are more generous and I'm gonna do that... Or more capable let's not just say generous but capable? Oh yeah! More capable or want too. A lot of people have taken out two five-dollar money. People can do whatever they want somebody did get it couple of offbeat the donations this month we got four dollars and fifty three cents from another Lee Hebert who doesn't want to be a douchebag, doesn't have a lot of money. He just emptied out his PayPal account which we recommend people give us empty out their PayPal account if it's lingering there. PayPal is just taking advantage of you. Just dump it and give it to us or you got some money from the government that would be nice too. Or if your breaking up with your girlfriend. And then breaking up with your girlfriend those are the three... Or boyfriend! I suppose at some point Heather and Jeff will both be giving us more money

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Andrew Maguire, Gold Market Manipulation Whistleblower

Whistleblower Andrew Maguire survived an apparent assassination attempt in London after exposing gold and silver market manipulation by JP Morgan Chase. The hosts discuss "dead man's switches" as a digital security measure for whistleblowers to ensure information is released if they are harmed.

andrew maguire· jp morgan chase· gold· gata· london

1:10:07 Alright, I just want to get back into some news here because this was something that I kind of dive-bombed when I tried to explain how huge this story was and you at the time... properly berated me for it. This is about the manipulation of the gold and also silver market, it turns out. Oh here we go again! And Gordon Brown who of course willingly participated as a shill, Gordon Brown being the Prime Minister of Gitmo Nation East, willingly participated in helping his buddies out in the financial sector by selling Britain's gold at an all-time low subsequently quadrupled in price so

1:10:46 So here's what happened just a few days ago. There is a whistleblower in all this, John, a guy named Andrew Maguire who has actually been exposing the details of the manipulation of gold and silver in the London commodities market So he's a dead man. Well, here it comes so he warned an investigator for the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission in advance about a gold and silver market manipulation to be undertaken by traders for JP Morgan Chase in February this was publicized by the GATA that's the Association of Gold Traders

1:11:25 And they tried to off this guy in a traffic accident, T-boned the guys car. Huge chase in London police helicopters trying to figure it all out The guy is a complete dead man I mean he didn't die yet and hopefully he's under some form of witness protection But they totally tried to kill him just a few days ago because this story is huge Absolutely huge I'm keeping my eye on it Well, what do you think? You know you if you have if you're that guy. What do you do to protect yourself besides not bringing that bring it up at all but Would you I mean how do you do guys do what if you were like a whistleblower or your Revealing something like this and what methodology here's what I would do in fact I'm not saying I haven't done

1:12:22 I would make sure that i have first of all, I'd make friends with the sysadmins of the world and a lot of them listen to this show. and I would make sure that i have a dead man switch meaning, I have one or probably a number of servers that has a nice little zip file filled with all my information all my documents and if I don't check in every 12 to 24 hours even monthly for that matter it doesn't matter. If I don't check-in with this server or bevy of servers It fires off email to everybody! It just spams the world

1:12:59 with my documentation. Now, that's not to say that the authorities still won't try to or the Ministry of Truth won't try to snow it under but I think that is the best thing you could do That is about the only thing you can do Well, I think our no agenda donors list will come in handy for that Speaking of which there is a Senate passed a Senate panel past the Cyber Security Act that has a kill switch language in it. Yeah, this kill switch thing's been going on for awhile. This is very controversial. And there's a pretty good link in the show notes including PDF of the actual act where the president here it is

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Cybersecurity Act, Presidential Internet Kill Switch

The U.S. Senate is considering the Cybersecurity Act, which includes language granting the President the authority to declare a "cybersecurity emergency" and potentially trigger an internet "kill switch." The hosts speculate that companies like Cisco may have built-in mechanisms to facilitate such a shutdown.

cybersecurity act· kill switch· cisco· barack obama· infrastructure

1:13:51 In the event of an immediate threat to strategic national interests involving compromised federal government or United States critical infrastructure information systems, the President can a. declare a cybersecurity emergency and b. implement, here it is, the collaborative emergency response and restoration plans developed under paragraph 1 So then you gotta go back to paragraph one, this is how it works. The President shall in collaboration with owners and operators of United States critical infrastructure information systems sector coordinating councils and relevant governmental agencies regulatory entities and non-government governmental organizations Wow

1:14:37 Develop and rehearse detailed response and restoration plans that clarify specific roles, responsibilities and authorities of government and private sector actors during cybersecurity emergencies. So I would say essentially that's Cisco I think Cisco is the one you got to watch in this, because they run a lot of the Nets infrastructure and they're talking about this global skin and they've got all this stuff. And there are huge government contractor. I would say Cisco is the one that might have some kill switch built-in that essentially turns it off. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't send out some line of code and every Cisco router would look at this when it comes through and say what's this? Oh I know what it is! And kill the router

1:15:21 Yeah, and sysadmins by the way. There's no doubt in my mind that there is a kill switch on those routers. So we have sysadmins and network admins who are big part of our NOA agenda, malicious slash listeners producers If you know anything let us know total anonymity In fact if you really want to make sure your anonymous don't send any money just send us the information so we don't screw up your name on the list Just send us the information. Send it anonymously Now this plays into a speech by Oompa Loompa, Chief Oompa Loompa of the United States of Europe Van Roempooy who is of course the unelected yet fully acting President of the United States of Europe who spoke in Brussels

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Herman Van Rompuy, Global Governance and Atlantis Metaphor

EU President Herman Van Rompuy delivered a speech in Brussels using the myth of Atlantis as a metaphor for climate change. He called for "global governance" and a "compliance regime" to manage carbon markets and cybersecurity, drawing sharp criticism from the hosts for his "Orwellian" rhetoric.

herman van rompuy· european union· climate change· atlantis· global governance

1:16:11 And I actually, it's a little long John but I just want to play this and walk through it with you because when you hear this guy speak It is like George Orwell wrote his speech. And it ties right into the cyber security and the kill switch You wanna have a little listen? Go! Okay here he comes This is Herman van Rompuy Eighty months ago people on this side of the Atlantic were not happy with the collapse of the first Lehman Brothers either We have a responsibility for issues that affect the other as well. So let's work together on financial and banking regulation I should like to mention two other fronts of insecurity climate change and cybercrime Okay, so there it comes

1:17:00 This guy is of course all about global governance, which... Oh yeah. Global governance, global governance, global governance So we have to work through that climate change which by the way it's still happening there's nothing changed There's no documentation not now It's part of a very rigid agenda Yeah its climate change and cyber security this is the one to keep our eye on In the mythical past That mythical, he means mythical. Listen to what he's comparing it too. Famous empire of Atlantis was engulfed by the sea Let's take this as a metaphor Wait wait stop! I know i knew you'd love it It's beautiful What? He is talking about Atlantis Oh yeah it was engulfed by the sea due to global warming Global warming oh okay nevermind Global warming yeah here we go In the mythical past The famous empire of Atlantis Was engulfed by the sea

1:17:54 Let's take this as a metaphor for climate change. I mean, yeah, speechless. I tell you the crackpot planet from climate catastrophe and the resulting global insecurity is it daunting task? But in name of Atlantis Europe and America should take up the challenge together The European Union and United States should lead the way in green technology. Together we can set the norms and standards not only in climate politics but also... Hear that one?

1:18:31 Climate politics. Yeah, oh yeah this guy is the true reptilian evil leader. Climate politics my butt! Not only in climate politics but also in technology related regulation it's the best chance we have so that the rest of world will follow suit A transatlantic cooperation is needed on an industrial carbon market and a global... Industrial carbon market? These words, this is beautiful! Yeah it's just laying it all out. By the way this is the Obama of Europe and his constituency is what like 75 million more than the United States

1:19:15 It's huge. I think it is like 450 something like that. More than, okay so 150 million more it's huge. Global verification and compliance regime. Compliance? Shut up slave! Compliance regime. To announce that in todays European Council all heads of state or government agreed we should work closely with the United States on climate issues Our societies live by the grace of a free flow of goods, people and information. Networks are the arteries of the global economy. Here comes networks are the arteries of the global economy They're vulnerable Think about internet and telecommunication banking and money transfer systems airports and energy grids

1:20:03 Cyberattacks against the nodes of modern life are no fantasy. They can happen and do happen every day This changes our perspective on security To quote a very valuable recent study on EU-US relations The goal of ensuring territorial integrity must be complemented by a goal of securing the critical functions of our society Oh, this guy creeps me out Well, you know this is interesting because in the I think it was at the Heritage Foundation John Bolton gave another one of these speeches and you know I never liked that guy that Bolton he was the UN ambassador under Bush because he seemed like a jerk especially with the reports of him but I could be wrong. The guy turns out to be very interesting public speaker

1:20:54 And he, and I'll have it on the next show. I'll make some clips that some of the things he said but he just believes that this European union is a scam designed to take away American sovereignty in any way it can and the global warming which he doesn't say... He's not even a skeptic about global warming. He just says if there was a problem we can do it ourselves We don't need to be doing these crazy treaties they've been sneaking up on us They're telling us about how they actually taking precedent over American law, you saw about the criminal court and the world criminal court and all the rest of it. And it just keeps coming at us trying to end...and the liberals in this country are basically lockstep with this global governance idea so we don't...we essentially just didn't form this country, The United States Of America, to be part of Europe!

1:21:45 specifically left Europe for a reason, and why do we want to get back in bed with them when all they do is just... You know it always results in some sort of war. They're the ones who start all the wars when it comes down to and its going to happen again. And I- It's just baffling me but I'll get to Bolton stuff if you don't have anything else say about one clip that kind of applies to this sure sure I mean and this whole clip by the way as courses in the show notes and Noah Jennings' short talk. Now I think you should play that whole clip in its entirety unedited at the end of the show Okay, that was a good idea. I shall do that So, talking about climate change I wish I had written down the guy's name but there is another one of these black conservatives. There are a bunch of them that get on the talk shows as kind of the token black conservative but most of them are extremely erudite and smarter than most of the talk show hosts especially on MSNBC where for example Chris Matthews is on with Ron Reagan who is notoriously uninformed about everything

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Chris Matthews, Climate Change Debate with Ron Reagan

A heated exchange on MSNBC featured Chris Matthews and Ron Reagan shouting down a conservative guest who questioned the scientific consensus on climate change. The discussion touched on the "Climategate" scandal at East Anglia and the role of nuclear energy in national security.

chris matthews· ron reagan· msnbc· climate change· nuclear energy

1:22:47 And he and this is an example of a casual conversation that went off the track. And this is what happens with liberals, and I'm always reminded of the story I was told about how you know, liberals they hate to use even the term liberal but they stay within their own groups and they all develop groupthink And if any, and they all like somebody said I'm always surprised that George Bush got elected. I don't know anyone who voted for him this is a typical kind of thinking of the liberal because they're insular and when somebody comes in with...

1:23:24 with a kind of an opinion that differs from their lockstep opinion that they're told to believe. They shout them down! This is Chris Matthews, Ron Reagan and a black guy who's very He has to hold his own against them when he brings up the climate change issue. Here it goes... In the interest of this country, everybody knows the same thing basically there is a climate change problem anybody who reads the paper thinks knows somewhere down the line number two man has something to do with number 2 and number 3 we gotta stop depending on Arab oil or were crazy Okay, so you gotta do something about it. Right? And is the president doing something? He's doing something... You say everyone who knows anything says that there is global climate change I think there are serious scientific disputes of whether or not that is actually viable But let me address your question- You really challenge it?!

1:24:14 Of course I really challenge it. We've seen what happened in East Anglia over in England where they discredited the scientific research of these people, and I think that is a gimmick... There are people who question evolution! That doesn't mean there isn't evolution! Oh Chris wait a second so we're supposed to take scientists who have a fiduciary interest in this that could benefit them? Oh, fiduciary interest. Nice! Nice good word. This is party line. No this isn't party line this is actually I've researched this why should we take hook line and sinker with what some of these environmentalists have said about global climate change? Why don't we have an honest debate why don't we have the conservative voices that are not actually addressing it Because the weather in Boston right now for the last X many years is the same as it used to be in photo

1:24:55 and let's get it warmer and more no i mean it was sure warm here in the east coast we had blizzards that was one of the house when the whole list of winners on record now you're discrediting yourself ron come on actually actually ron reagan i'm actually making my point who is one of the coldest winter so maybe why are you writing a boy with everyone to discredit you know what does not only your thoughts Well, listen weather is not climate. So let's forget it. Climate change doesn't even have to be part of the... It isn't! It isn't Ron and you know as well as I do. We're talking about a trend line. Forget about climate change for the moment because we don't even have to discuss climate change. We can discuss national security here Everybody knows forget about climate change everything that has the future is in solar

1:25:36 and wind, renewable sustainable energy sources. That's where we have to be going now! Oh I take such exception to that... Isn't it unbelievable? That's bullshit how about nuclear there is all the corrections Well actually the guy, the Republican there he mentions that too and then they jump on him for that In fact is the clip still Yeah yeah I got a half minute left Not in not to the past We gotta go into 21st century not 19th Now, Ron Reagan here's where I agree with you. I agree with all those but you need to add one more component of that You need to add nuclear energy France has over 80% of their domestic supply supplied by nuclear energy How come the only thing you guys like about the French is nuclear energy? That's about it! You never say one single thing about the French on any topic you won't eat the french fries you make fun of their freedom fries See?! Anyway this is an example being shouted down

1:26:30 for having any kind of thoughtful consideration whatsoever, you just get shouted down by these guys. And that's how this whole thing... science is in everybody agrees anybody would Matthew says anyone who reads a newspaper agrees now there was the scientists not going to The scientists don't only agree, but anyone who reads a newspaper also agrees. So everybody agrees except idiots and the funny thing is they have these memes that they keep putting out Arab oil, Arab oil we don't even use why don't they be honest about it and say it's Alberta Oil? Most of the oil from in United States that we use is from Alberta Canada and Venezuela We have very little oil from Saudi Arabia Very little

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

James Schneider, Global Warming Activist Frozen to Death

Global warming activist James Schneider and a journalist were found frozen to death near the South Pole while attempting to film the effects of climate change on ice sheets. The hosts note the irony of the situation, where the pair died from extreme cold while documenting a warming planet.

james schneider· antarctica· global warming· south pole· irony

1:27:16 And then they throw this nasty little comment about, oh well if you don't believe in global warming you don't believe in evolution either? Which is a ridiculous specious jump leap of faith that's a chicken shit thing to do. You know Matthew should be ashamed of himself for even being on the air with this kind of crap. Indeed! And let me just lay one more on top of it. Puente Arenas Chile Famed global warming activist James Schneider and a journalist friend were both found frozen to death on Saturday about 90 miles from South Pole Station by the pilot of a ski plane practicing emergency evacuation procedures.

1:28:03 Uh, they were too... What? Yeah. So they'd been planning a trip to an ice sheet to film the devastation brought on by global warming and they froze to death it gets worse so the pilot took a picture of two snowmobiles with cargo sleds, a tent and bright orange rope that had been laid out on the ice forming the words HELP-COLD So, I mean you can't get more ironic than that. It's not only ironic but to me it just indicates the naivete of some of these scientists regarding anything that they would go and put themselves into this sort of a situation You don't go to the Antarctic with two guys on a couple snowmobiles and expect that this is like part of your life With a hoodie? I've been to Cleveland!

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Political Sports Preferences, WNBA and Field Hockey

A survey on the sports preferences of Democrats versus Republicans suggests that Democrats favor the WNBA and NBA, while Republicans prefer golf and NASCAR. The hosts engage in a tangent regarding the demographics of WNBA fans and the visual appeal of women's field hockey.

wnba· nascar· golf· democrats· republicans

1:28:59 By the way, Matthew's on that same show. He did some news on his side as kind of a real news item But he, apparently some research was done on what kind of sports fans Republicans are versus Democrats. And I thought this is real interesting and he kinda glossed it over because once he saw the list, he just kinda shot through it. The Republicans, there remains three sports that each group likes you take Republicans and Democrats. Republicans number one was golf Which, you know is okay. Number two is college football and number three Republicans in general NASCAR and then he kind of scoffed at well what do you expect? You know even though golf and college football are reasonable Do you have any idea what number one was for the Democrats

1:29:53 Oh, never mind. You'd never guess it in a million years. Curling? Number one sport would be any by the way most Democrats don't even like sports from what I can tell even though used to be a Democrat WNBA. Women's professional basketball is the number one sport that Democrats like, number two is the regular NBA, the men and number three is the world wrestling association. You know what I like? And of course I'm a constitutionalist. I like women's field hockey

1:30:30 Women's field hockey is a hot sport because they've got those little skirts on that flap up and show their kind of like their butt when they're running. I don't think it's a bunch of horned dogs watching WNBA, I think there are a bunch of pussy whip males that have girlfriends or start very domineering and may make them. And then you take that survey your putting to be NBA on it I mean, you see these guys in Berkeley. And I don't want to go into this to any extreme because I start to sound like a kind of a douchebag. But... A hater! You've seen these guys in Berkeley anyone who lives in this area has seen it two women who are obviously partners and their man walking down the street they're not holding hands but they're yakking with each other and they're obviously into each other and the guy has got a baby

1:31:19 on a baby carrier in front of one of the front ones and he's trudging along behind the two of them. I have seen this so often in this area, and that's the WNBA people. Crowd! I have a new hero I'd like to point out John... Jason Matera Who so far has only posted one YouTube video, but it was pointed out to me and it is so outstanding. In this case It has to do with the health care bill and I do want to talk about a couple pharma things He I have to say essentially hijacks Al Franken in the hallways. Yeah, you know I saw this and thought it was pretty lame personally Well, he misses a couple things because what he does is pull some interesting information out of the health care bill And he says look this language essentially means that seven billion dollars will be set aside for jungle gyms and i have to agree with him there

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Jason Matera, Al Franken Healthcare Bill Ambush

Author Jason Matera confronted Senator Al Franken in a Capitol hallway regarding specific provisions in the healthcare bill, such as funding for "jungle gyms" and workplace breastfeeding accommodations. The hosts critique Matera's "ambush" style while noting Franken's dismissive response.

jason matera· al franken· healthcare bill· jungle gyms· breastfeeding

1:32:22 a clause about time off for expressing breast milk. I.e., how much time women should have to breastfeed their children during working hours? Yeah, now I thought the two points were well taken. I just thought the way he handled it with the ambush was poorly done and very unprofessional and I don't think it proved anything except that Frankenstein was trying to get into his office being pestered by this character blown away by this particular clip? Well, the things I liked is one the douchebags hanging around the senator and how the senator then says hey you know let me answer the guy. And of course the guy is interruptive The guy doesn't let him say a thing! The guys is a douchebag Yeah that's that's the problem

1:33:13 Um, because he has all the right elements. Doesn't quite pull it off but the two things I just want to play briefly are the funny thing where- Where Franken tells him to shut up and then there's one other funny thing that i really like Oh! He has a book out okay...I get it This is a little promo for his book at the beginning of the clip. Uh, I... Give me the jungle gym. So this is where the guy screws up because he doesn't really explain the jungle gyms well although the point is well made The jungle gyms? Yeah Is on 1184 Yeah show it to me right now Okay 1184 See then he does the edit showing the bill which is unfortunate for the reality of the clip

1:34:16 And it is to provide physical activity opportunities, promote healthy lifestyle. So why is that the job of the federal government? Why isn't the job with the federal government and OK, to create an army among people? Go ahead answer if no, you have go ahead, answer it. You have to shut up right now. Franken was pretty quick with his shut up on that Yeah, well I mean. I would be too. I mean the guy's a chatterbox He won't he says answer answer and you start to answers his answer answer. I mean this is guys a douchebag This is ridiculous promotion for his book Okay, he made a couple good points too. Let me just

1:34:55 I don't want to belabor it, the funniest thing that cracked me up is coming up now. So now they're walking up the stairs and he tells them to shut off. Listen to me instead of interrupting every time i say something. I'm listening so how's the job with federal government A to provide infrastructure for a healthy lifestyle and the breastfeeding conditions? The breastfeeding... Senator is not taking questions! I just want to answer one question please And if you would just stop talking for a second. Senator Smalley, I'm listening go ahead. Senator Smalley! Come on! That was quite funny. So unfortunately the guy has the right stuff except he screws it up by being... In fact i will have to do it right now. Too bad

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Toyota RAV4, Transmission Issues and Media Bias

The hosts analyze a CBS News report on Toyota RAV4 transmission problems, labeling it as "pre-packaged" corporate media bias. They argue that Toyota's willingness to replace faulty transmissions at no cost is being unfairly framed as a safety scandal to further damage the company's reputation.

toyota· rav4· lemon laws· cbs news· recalls

1:35:45 Too bad. He had a real opportunity there to catch Frankenhoff guard who clearly doesn't know about the jungle gyms Well, I mean you know, I don't think half those senators have read the bill they still probably haven't X people going through the text So I got a couple of yeah, just I just want to thank two people and then definitely you have a lot of interesting clips. I think here villain Trump for sending me tons of links before every show. I appreciate it. I spend about an hour-and-a-half on his email alone And there is a website which I'll put in the links Dutch no agenda meeting calm

1:36:22 as apparently the first meetup of No Agenda listeners is being coordinated in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. Yeah, that should be interesting and you might be able to make that meeting if they do it in September yeah well let's... you gotta do these things when they miss. September is a nice time to be there oh and also I want to congratulate noagendaforums.com on their first anniversary which I think was last Thursday Yeah, congratulations. We have a lot of independent things going on which I think is cool. So the Toyota bull crap is continuing now they there's a story that you saw in the news last night. They're not

1:37:08 This is about the RAV4, like their little puddle jumper that had apparently some transmissions. A couple of them have had transmission problems and Toyota's actually gone out of their way to fix the transmission and in some cases taken the transmissions out and given them all new transmissions and one woman has two transmissions replaced and she's complaining about this. And I'm you know... One of the guys that used to be on Silicon Spin Show was the guy who wrote the, I'll get for some reason my name is, his name is eluding me but he wrote the Lemon Laws and he told me about all these different car companies and how they screw over the various users. And of all the companies Toyota's definitely not in that category of screwing over buyers but listen to this report and see tell me it's not biased

1:38:02 Two years before Karen Milligan's incident. When I found out there was a service fault, and...I got even angrier A Toyota spokesman told CBS 5 Investigates that some Rev4s had what they call a drivability issue with harsh shifting And the company has worked with customers to correct any problems Harsh shifting? There have been no reports of issues What is that, harsh shifting That means it jerks when it goes from one gear to another Or maybe its hard to put into gear No, I think harsh shifting is exactly what i described. It's like a clutch issue? Yeah but no it's an automatic so you go from second to third and boom! Okay gotcha that's a mercury clutch problem. Got it. Toyota says its not a safety issue but the Milligans couldn't disagree more. It was a safety issue for me at that moment yes Granted the transmission going out is nothing compared to this unexplained acceleration issue

1:38:55 But it's still hazardous nonetheless. Especially since late last year their transmission had to be changed out again This time Toyota replaced it at no cost but the Milligans believed their car should have been recalled If they know that there is a flaw, they should take care of it and they didn't take care of it Now we also checked with the government about this problem. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration told us it's aware of the issue, it's monitoring it but so far has not opened an investigation. Anna Werner CBS 5 Investigate. In other words the story is bogus Yeah exactly But let's get another jab into Toyota for their acceleration problem in this one

1:39:36 Woman who says I don't know why they didn't recall. Why do you mean recall? You had your transmission swapped out What is the car need to be recalled for this sounds to me and actually one of our producers who is a real producer at A television station sent us a really nice overview of how how this works at local the local news level This is totally some pre-packaged news report that is just sent in and they put some woman on the street somewhere in front of a Toyota dealership, and then they roll out the package. It's total setup! That's your news. Terrestrial hounding Toyota. Alright, so anyway that's my... I just thought to throw that in because I don't think this is ending anytime soon No Alright so we have uh.. So this week i want to do a series of clips from Dick Wolfe's Law and Order Special Victims Unit Now I got alot of tweets and emails about this one

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Law and Order SVU, Anti-Talk Radio Propaganda

An episode of Law & Order: SVU is deconstructed for its portrayal of a killer "brainwashed" by right-wing talk radio. The show explicitly names figures like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly, which the hosts describe as a blatant attempt to link conservative media to domestic extremism.

law and order· dick wolf· rush limbaugh· glenn beck· bill o'reilly

1:40:34 This one was a this one actually by the way for a show that says all people are fictitious and da-da-da at the beginning. Why are they mentioning O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh? There is about guy there's some nutcase in New York has been killing girls because they're immigrants or something, or they're the child of immigrants and it's allowed them to stay in the country. So he figures if he kills the girls then they'd have to deport these people. It turns out that of course this guy has been a douchebag all along but meanwhile he blames it on his talk show host Garrison I think is her name

1:41:11 Who seems to be kind of a, I would say he's maybe a little bit of a Michael Savage. But because the only reason I say that is because Michael Savage wasn't listed with all the rest of them in the laundry list and and he's supposedly brainwashed the guy with his radio or TV show, the TV show. Brainwashed the guy and the only reason that all these murders is because of this character so I wanna play we're gonna play this five clips it kinda takes you along the lines of the story as it concludes but more but the clips are specifically selected because there's elements propaganda dick wolf propaganda that is hoisted on the audience

1:41:54 In a very interesting and subtle way, so we'll start with brainwash clip number one. Gordon Garrison made him do it? Is this a joke? Persistent viewing of the program Flashpoint convinced my client that undocumented immigrants pose a threat to national security. We better watch out, your honor! I hear listening to NPR will turn us all into zombies. Mock me but hate speech from authority figures is the greatest danger to this country since McCoffeyism, your honor There are ample legal precedents for brainwashing defense

1:42:40 I'll allow it. Really? Is that true do you think are there real uh is there jurisprudence for brainwashing? Uh, i would assume so But whatever the case is, we have what we have here as a... There's actually a meme that shows up in here that I didn't even notice until I heard it. And soon as I heard it, I said oh my God! I just heard this on the radio a few minutes ago and I heard it yesterday and I heard it the day before and when it comes online see if you can identify it but this is essentially a show that is trying to besides being there's always the anti-gun control angle on these shows

1:43:19 uh... grant your not and they don't want me gun control angle and there's also a free speech should be limited uh... this is the uh... fairness doctrine which is crying in his doctorate this is all those of them right that i didn't even think about but you're right that simply to so they have a bunch of Points of information in play in this show and they're all interestingly presented in a very dramatic way Like I said, these are the guys who get paid them You These are the pros writing this stuff. And by the way, I love the oh yeah right and listening to NPR our national treasure will make us all zombies well yeah ironically it's true! The next clip? Are we going into the next one here? Brainwashed Thagger is a bigoted loser trying to dodge a life sentence Well the jury see it that way Well that defense didn't work for Patty Hearst she was a bit more sympathetic than Joe Thagger

1:44:19 Princess Patty wouldn't have picked up a machine gun if the SLA hadn't screwed with her cerebellum. She would probably get off if she was tried today, but in 1976 no one had heard of Stockholm Syndrome or the Reverend Jim Jones. Jim Jones brainwashed his followers to drink the Kool-Aid. Thaggert has never even met Gordon Garrison. Not to mention millions of people have watched Flashpoint that wouldn't hurt a fly. But Garrison's not on trial. All the jury can consider is whether Thaggert was nuts and we're sure he isn't. Come one, he knew exactly what it was doing so does Carver I was flipping through the channels last night, he was on every news show promoting himself. That's the point! Before the internet and 24-hour news cycle, Kooks could Xerox pamphlets Now any crackpot can get on television and get millions of lemmings to jump off any cliff they tell him too So hate speech has wider reach? It hasn't caused the murder rate to spike Yet did you know that the Department of Homeland Security issued a report on the rise in right wing extremism after Obama's election Can we just leave the brother out of it much All I'm saying is we gotta take these radical fringe groups seriously

1:45:17 It's a frac-frac-fractal. I, there is a huge fractal in there which i really love well it's like they're talking about the media brainwashing people while they are actually brainwashing people with the media isn't that great? That's awesome! That really works oh my god Yeah, I know that is a fractal. There's a bunch of messages in there...I think most people that listen to our show can identify them you know you have the they did also throw a piece of fact it did you know some writer had some conscious conscience. He looked at Wikipedia you mean? Well no he had it conscious to say that because even though all this stuff going on supposedly the murder rate hasn't spiked but they slipped that in

1:46:01 The one detective says that and then the black guy says yet right afterwards, right? In other words nothing's changed yet. Yes, we always use that word yet to me it's going to its happening So anyway, so there's a bunch of stuff that clip is just too rich with material to totally analyze. We haven't gotten to the... The killer gems here? Yeah. I have, let me see Clip 3 on there. Can I just interrupt you John and just say well done my friend! First of all you sat through that drivel

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Law and Order SVU, Fairness Doctrine and Free Speech

The hosts continue their analysis of Law & Order: SVU, focusing on the script's promotion of the "Fairness Doctrine" and the "fire in a crowded theater" legal trope. They argue the show is conditioning the public to accept limitations on the First Amendment.

fairness doctrine· free speech· dick wolf· svu· propaganda

1:46:37 Then you analyze it, then you spliced it up. No wonder you were late this morning! This is like three hours worth of work So wait one second let me take one look at number three You have a clip 3 I don't see it yeah oh yeah there It is brainwashed 3 right play that okay? I used to get in your cage rattle huh score 1 for me stop stop I gotta set this up They had the first hearing and then they lawyer who's a guy with the southern accent who is actually, what's the actor? Comedian I can't remember his name from New Orleans but it was with his original voice. He got shut down on something and wasn't winning he missed on emotion or something so now he's sitting outside sulking in that and the cop comes by to harass him which always happens of course in legal situations. Of course that's what cops do! Hey slave

1:47:29 How you doing? Play? Yeah, hit it. I used to get in your cage rattling huh? Score one for me is Cabot but i haven't brought out the big guns yet. I don't get why you're defending this wacko. Faggot's a symptom not the disease that symptom killed three kids Garrison Limbaugh Beck O'Reilly all of them they are like cancer spread ignorance and hate and they've convinced folks that immigrants are the problem not corporations that failed to pay a living wage or a broken health care system. Save the soapbox, Randy! The cameras aren't even running I ain't doing this for the attention...I get enough of that already Then why are you wasting your time on this loser? Oh man! Another one! The cameras aren't even running I love it

1:48:16 These guys are awesome. Yeah, the cameras aren't running. Well then what are we watching? That is mind control right there like yeah man it's not even camera so it must really be true what he said you know it's like evil corporations now and he calls out O'Reilly back in Limbaugh oh and and what does he actually call him He calls them, we'll play that part again. Bob, Ben, O'Reilly all of them they're like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate. I mean they've convinced us A cancer spreading ignorance and hate? Wow! I think that's legal...I think they could sue the guys. Those three guys should get a lawyer and sue this Dick Wolf production company over there That is totally slanderous That's pretty heavy man

1:49:04 I mean that's like, that's like... And it's bogus too. The thing bad about it is that they haven't talked about immigration for over a year or two. That topic has left that ship and it's left! No no no no no no no. I think you're incorrect here. I think it's about to pop up that this is a precursor There are people demonstrating outside Capitol Hill about immigration as recent as last week. This is popping up, I think this is timed with some congressional hearing or something that's going on and they're putting the mind control in early. Well you might be right and the thing that especially the liberals have done is they've liked to keep people from listening to those three guys in particular

1:49:50 Beck of course is kind of a crazy guy. Limbaugh's basically a deconstructionist and he's spotty, not always good and you know he's a classic talk show guy O'Reilly is actually the number one show on cable for a reason it's extremely well-written show O'Reilly is kinda goofball and in the show has... I don't watch all the time enough though to know that this show is it brought a good you know Stephen Colbert and make a kind of a Daily mockery of the show because the show is so well produced that you can you know, it's a it's not you can actually I'm actually stunned by the production of that showing. It doesn't look like a slick show but it's extremely slick

1:50:35 And what's interesting is the chat room is having quite a debate about this and people are actually saying, dude this is fiction. It's not real but this is the point you have to understand that this is how it works This is exactly how brain if its fiction why do they name O'Reilly Limbaugh? You know yeah, there's stories fiction But they called out the real guys yeah, this is interesting What's for you have to set it up or oh No, I don't think so. So you have the right to say anything you want on the air. God bless the first amendment. Ah yeah, but free speech does have its limits. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. You can if the building's burning and make no mistake this country is ablaze.

1:51:50 the fairness doctrine which for those of you who don't know is the idea of equal air time, which was dismissed and I think right after the health care bill passed. I heard a lot of noise from people like oh boom now we need to implement the fairness doctrine. Yeah well hey if it gets Rachel Maddow off the air i'm kind of all for it Yeah, I'm all for it. So the meme that I spotted in there because I just heard it earlier like a few hours early and then I remember hearing it over and over again for the past few weeks. Wait don't tell me! Don't tell me can I is it in this last clip? Yeah no its in the clip you just heard Mexicans with sweaters

1:52:31 No, that's a good one. That's my favorite Mexicans with sweaters from now on Canadians are Mexicans and sweaters camel jockey I listen to right-wing talk radio and no one that I know has never ever suggested that Mexicans with sweat John it's fiction John is not real what you mean Fire in a crowded theater. Yeah, yeah I have been hearing that more often the guys talk about free speech and so what you know if you know there are limitations You can't yell fire in a crowded theater There are limitations you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre there are limitations you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre I keep hearing that over and over and over and over interesting

1:53:19 So there's, you know this is a method of trying to... The roof! The roof is on fire. They want to abridge our free speech rights in this country and it's got something to do with this internationalism the global thing that creeped from Belgium who knows because they don't have you know the same rights we have and they want to take our rights away It's just that simple not that difficult to figure out Shut up slave Now here's the thing, this is the last clip. This is the prosecuting attorney going off on this character Garrison while he was up on the stand essentially blowing her own case up. And what's curious, I don't have another clip after this, but it was curious is after she blows up the case cause they find the guy not guilty because she basically blows up the case here and then they do what they have a, uh, a thing, a little meeting at the end where they discuss how we lose the case. Nobody ever says you lost the case, you idiot with this, with this cross examination. Uh, but that's never suggested in the,

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Law and Order SVU, Courtroom Climax and Tea Party Memes

The Law & Order: SVU segment concludes with a courtroom scene where a prosecutor berates a talk show host character. The hosts link the show's themes to real-world political tactics, such as the alleged planting of offensive signs at Tea Party rallies to discredit the movement.

dick wolf· svu· tea party· david axelrod· propaganda

1:54:21 post-mortem. It's just pretty funny, but anyway this is the end of the whole thing. Mr Garrison have you ever met the defendant? No I have not Had him as a caller on your show signed an autograph for him received fan mail from him no no and no then what do you think of the defense's contention that you brainwashed him hogwash pure and simple Folks, I'm just a social thermometer taking the temperature of the people. Rectally? ADA cap it! That's alright Judge Alex here doesn't have to agree with me By the way that is some pretty bad acting going on here This is without exception pretty bad Just like Voltaire said She may disapprove what I say but she'll defend to death my right to say it Did Voltaire say that?!

1:55:08 She points this out, and if you're gonna misquote somebody... Voltaire? Give me a break. Okay at least I'm not nuts okay That wasn't Voltaire Oh As usual you're playing fast and loose with the truth Wait here now Miss Cabot exactly whose side are you on The truth And the truth is your views compel me to do nothing more than reach for a barf bag Mr Carver thinks that you're a god to your followers but all i see is an impotent man spewing hate to line his pockets Watch your tone, sweetheart. Or what? You'll do what to me Mr Garrison?! You are a powerless buffoon! An entertaining clown! Half the people who watch your show only do so to laugh at you No one takes you seriously! You gonna let her talk to me that way!? YOU GO TO HELL BITCH!! She's telling the truth! Gordon Garrison is wrecking America! I want those people out! That damn whore is freaking awful as fuck!

1:56:01 My goodness. Well, there's another military helicopter It is the worst piece of propagandistic crap I have seen on this show. Uh, I mean it was entertaining from the perspective that it was uh... There were moments of humor but you know it was set up like anti-militia these guys You know what? I don't believe for a minute that even This kind of like hinting at the Tea Party people are like this

1:56:56 There's a lot of news about the Tea Party people over the last couple weeks, they can't spell. There are a lot of memes they're trying to promote that they can't spell and somebody pointed out, I do have this clip not today but I'll bring it out on Sunday, one of the Goldberg actually, I think he was on O'Reilly pointed out You know, the thing about the N-word being used 16 times at a Tea Party event and somebody shouting it to some poor black House of Representatives member. He said, you know with everybody with all their pocket cameras and movie cameras and everything. The place is crawling with network people nobody caught this on tape. Nobody has any evidence that it ever happened. It's probably bogus who knows who's got the signage? Who knows who's doing these signs that got all this weird stuff on them

1:57:48 This is purely, this is all Axelrod from the old school of dirty politics where you got it. There's an event going on I would do this. You have a big event going on. We're gonna do it tomorrow! There's a big event going on. So you go, you join up with it and you bring your own signage and the signs are all misspelled and you look like an idiot and black out one of your teeth so you really look stupid. And if somebody luckily, if you get lucky that some reporter comes by to ask you something, say the worst stuff you can, you just plant this kind of stuff. I mean, you can do... It doesn't take a genius to do this and is done commonly. Nixon used to do this stuff all the time

1:58:31 It's just a, I mean you can't buy any of it. It's just really pathetic and then the shows like this make it worse basically telling people not to listen to the talk show guys they're evil and this kind of thing goes on all these radicals, these militias. Well I agree on that don't you should no be... I get more email from people saying, I've stopped watching television. Certainly television news. I'm not interested. I get enough from no agenda which by the way can bum me out which is not the point of us doing this show you shouldn't watch it because... Get a good movie from time to time

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Recess Appointments, Islam Siddiqui and Harold Varmus

President Obama utilized recess appointments to place Islam Siddiqui, a pesticide industry lobbyist, as a chief agricultural negotiator. Additionally, Harold Varmus was appointed to lead the National Cancer Institute, despite past controversy regarding his removal of price caps on cancer medications.

barack obama· islam siddiqui· harold varmus· pesticide industry· cancer drugs

1:59:07 and turn it off because it's just mind control. This is 1984, you got the screen in the kitchen, you got the screen in the living room and its just mind controlling you And the real news is not being reported We've gotta wrap this up John cause we are about to run long I do have a couple of pertinent pieces of information that would be remiss if I didn't get them out Shadow Puppet Theater You realize that President Obama put a lot of people in place right after the health care bill. A lot of, he essentially since there were no Senate confirmations on a lot of appointments that needed to be made there's some I guess there's some way that the president can say okay I knight thee

1:59:53 and it just puts people in charge of stuff without confirmation. I didn't know this was possible but it is. So President Obama, in the recess appointed Islam Siddiqui to be chief agricultural negotiator in the U.S., in the office of the US trade representative And what you need to know about this guy is that he is essentially a lobbyist for the pesticide industry. For Crop Life America, formerly known as National Agricultural Chemical Association which essentially lobbies to weaken the Endangered Species Act Clean Water Act because who cares if we get sick from our shit?

2:00:42 So he is now confirmed by the president as the agricultural negotiator for the office of the US Trade Representative. Very nice, very nice appointment and then we have another appointment... I call it recess confirmations. What's this guy's name? Harold Varmus is now the director of the National Cancer Institute. This is a nomination, I don't know if it's a confirmation or nomination done last Wednesday by the White House and in 19- What does the National Cancer Institute got to do with anything? That's a government agency? Well somehow the White House...I don't know! It's like you know let's look into that one The president also gets to nominate or approve

2:01:45 the Director General of the Federal Reserve, which is not a government agency. So this stuff happens... This is actually fascinating what's happening with this guy. In 1995 he was the director of the National Institutes of Health He struck the reasonable pricing clause which essentially removed all caps from pricing on cancer drugs So now this guy, he's fantastic. This guy is the guy who removed the caps on cancer drugs and now is in the National Cancer Institute and he's going to be shepherding everybody and everything in

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Pharmaceutical Risks, Fosamax and Statin Preventatives

The osteoporosis drug Fosamax is linked to an increased risk of esophageal cancer in long-term users. Meanwhile, the FDA has approved AstraZeneca's statin drug, Crestor, for use as a preventative measure in healthy individuals, a move the hosts criticize as over-medication.

fosamax· crestor· esophageal cancer· statins· fda

2:02:30 And this guy just shows up on the puppet shadow puppet theater radar screen while everyone's on recess or whatever it is. Yep, this is great and there's like 13 more which I have a lot of those show over those under next show but you know this starts to get depressing and actually there's one that kind of hits close to home one of my aunts has been diagnosed with mouth cancer and esophageal cancer, which sucks. And we have someone else in our own community John you and I who is also suffering from this turns out that women who take...and this is a...I didn't know about this but of course I started to research it once I got the sad news Women who take the osteoporosis drug Fosamax for more than five years

2:03:26 are apparently all on mass developing esophageal cancer. But it does all kinds of weird things to your gastrointestinal system. And for one thing, you can't lay down or lie down if you take it because there's just really some weird stuff to you and you have to drink a lot of water. Taking a very specific way. It's not a casual thing and yeah, yeah I've heard about this I know that it's a problematic drug And I was watching for some reason you know wound up I was in San Francisco this week And I was watching the early show on CBS as kind of you to see what? What most of the slaves are being mind-controlled with and all of sudden there's this big push from

2:04:20 for statins, which I guess lower your cholesterol. Yeah well Lipitor and all those things are various synthetic statins So now AstraZeneca who makes Crestor has received approval to market a statin this Crestor that people can take as a preventative measure So you don't get cholesterol and the FDA approved this stuff. They approve everything This is outrageous I'm like what? You're not even sick! Taking a statin's a good idea anyway, but... You're not even sick and then here's the latest vaccine John while i'm on it anti-obesity vaccine

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Viral Research, H1N1 and H5N1 Hybridization in France

A laboratory in Lyon, France, is reportedly conducting experiments to combine the highly contagious H1N1 swine flu with the lethal H5N1 avian flu. The hosts compare this research to previous biosecurity incidents involving Baxter International and express concern over the potential for a global pandemic.

h1n1· h5n1· baxter international· france· biosecurity

2:05:10 I didn't know that, I didn't know obesity was a carried by a virus or bacteria. Yeah you go it's a vaccine and they're all read the study shows our vaccines as a vaccine but what virus what virus or bacteria does it does it trigger the immune system to attack? That's what vaccines do right yeah well we redefined vaccines yes nobody's noticed no one saying anything Speaking of vaccines, this is a and this in the show notes you have to read through this. This is frightening to me and falls completely under the... This is from leprogress.fr It's a fine French publication And it's a Google translated article for three weeks A laboratory in Lyon has now been mixing

2:06:12 under their P4 maximum security laboratory conditions, H1N1 avian flu with H5N1. This is exactly what Baxter International did... You mean H1N1 swine flu with the bird flu? With the bird flu This is exactly what Baxter International did. One of the deadliest viruses out there So to combine those two, one which spreads really fast H1N1 and one that kills with no mercy 80% effectiveness H5N1 are being mixed in a laboratory in France

2:06:51 And I'm like, why? Why do you have to do... Oh but don't worry it's under P4 maximum security conditions. Exactly what Baxter International claims they were doing when they shipped out a mixture of this stuff! Yeah they might kill 80% of the world's population somebody. I don't know who it would be that idiot from Belgium Who I will play at the end of the show And then just to mention, I'm not going to go through it all but there's a heading in the show notes. Poppies, tons of reports of actual harvesting in Afghanistan. I find this hilarious. Actual troops taking harvested poppies and putting them on... Putting them on photos! Yeah, oh yeah! And I think there's that point somebody sitting around stoned probably saying, I wonder how far we can go with this before the public actually notices?

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Afghanistan Opium, US Troops and Poppy Field Protection

Photographic evidence from Marjah, Afghanistan, shows U.S. and NATO troops operating in poppy fields while being instructed to leave the farmers' crops intact. The hosts highlight the contradiction of the military protecting the source of the global heroin trade while officially fighting a war on drugs.

afghanistan· opium· poppies· marjah· nato

2:07:44 Here, this one's some photos of the soldiers putting the stuff on the chopper over there. In fact this is from Boston dot com it even says... wait a minute I guess let me just get to the link It's just they have a whole lot. It's called the big picture and they have Actually big pictures really high resolution beautiful pictures, and this is Afghanistan March 2010 And you go to picture number 35 I just want to read the caption To you and the picture of course is linked in the show notes at no agenda show calm Hold on, I'm scrolling down to 35. Those are great photos by the way. They're beautiful! In this photo taken on Friday March 19th 2010 a farmer works in a poppy field in Marjah This is where we had the big invasion the big surge Afghanistan when US Afghan and NATO forces stormed Marjah in February they were instructed to seize large opium stashes but leave farmers' poppy fields alone

2:08:46 So they actually, they're admitting it. They seized the stash! They took it! Yeah, they took it. They took it! Are we just nuts? Are we just completely crazy? Are we the only ones seeing this stuff?! This is outrageous!! Everything is so outrageous, it's just amazing that it just... The power you know this is one thing about an advanced society the people running at whatever level they've somehow discovered that you can do anything because nobody either pays attention or you can just tell them oh we didn't do that. Or we're not doing that. Oh that's silly! That's conspiracy theory I think it was Voltaire who said John. The bigger the lie

2:09:33 The more apt people are to believe it. Voltaire! So, it's just like... It's astonishing and so I mean that it's only the little two-bit governments where they have to shut up everybody let's kill all the newspaper editors and you know if anybody says anything against the government you kill them and shoot them in there goes the whole place goes to hell in a handbasket Modern society they've noticed you can be you don't have to do it You could these guys saying bringing out the truth who cares let them say whatever they want. Whatever Yeah, they're doing anything is just like maybe there are aliens maybe maybe I was right and everybody's reptiles It doesn't matter

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

Philadelphia Flash Mobs, Civil Disobedience and Media Silence

Reports from Philadelphia describe violent "flash mobs" involving thousands of teenagers assaulting police and pedestrians. The hosts discuss the media's reluctance to report on these events for fear of encouraging further unrest, while noting the mayor's inability to control the situation.

philadelphia· flash mobs· michael nutter· macy's· civil disobedience

2:10:14 Anyway, there is hope. Hope comes in many different forms. There's a ton of interesting books at noagendabooks.com which you may want to check out we've discussed a couple of them I wanted to mention that there was a federal judge on Monday who thank goodness struck down two patents for by companies who are trying to patent human genes so that actually will own intellectual property to your body. To your genes? Your genes and I'm not talking about blue jeans

2:10:49 So there is hope that's very nice to see and then a nice note from Brian from Philly. Hey guys I'm a regular listener to the show a little surprised you guys talked about the flash mobs we've been having here in Philly I just want to give you a little more insight as to what's been going on with these kids because they are not Just gathering in huge numbers and jumping up and down It was my thoughts all I saw I'm all for freaking out authority figures and raising a little hell, but these kids are taking it too far. They gather by the thousands downtown which by the way this was not reported in his city hall tour as part of the city once they feel they outnumber everyone they start assaulting police including reports of a wheelchair-bound dude who was begging for his life as he was beaten well

2:11:32 Well, I'm still all for civil disobedience. Not for beating up people in wheelchairs but taunting police... Yeah, it's gonna come to that! They run on top of your car hang from street signs traffic lights And they broke a window at Macy's. He does say, you know They should be reporting this more accurately than if the stuff is going to wreck I agree though that it's cool The mayor and police are freaked out but it's not cool when you're harassing mothers walking down the street with their small children agreed Well, I agree with that too But the point is that the media has obviously been told don't you know? If we report this I yeah, I know how this works or if we report this and it's gonna encourage it

2:12:14 Right, you know that ever came from but reporting study. Would you just divorce if you don't make a sociological analysis? As is regarding the news and what's happening all I don't know we can't report that because it was gonna encourage it That's bull crap stole bull crap so then he does say at the end Thank you very much though for pointing out that our mayor That's the guy who we heard on on the video Mike Nutter which is a great name sounds like Cleveland from The Family Guy totally he does anyway so I thought it would be nice to just end on a high note there yeah anything A Family Guy High Note

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Herman Van Rompuy, Full Speech on Transatlantic Relations

The episode concludes with the full, unedited speech of EU President Herman Van Rompuy. He discusses the "pluralist democracy" shared by Europe and the United States, congratulates President Obama on healthcare reform, and reiterates the need for a unified transatlantic response to climate and cyber threats.

herman van rompuy· atlantis· kyoto protocol· barack obama· pluralist democracy

2:12:54 So please consider us when you're next at the movies, which of course you take your girlfriend or boyfriend out and spend 50 bucks on some high fructose corn syrup and some genetically modified popcorn. And then you watch a movie and sit still with 100 strangers in a dark room for 1 hour and half. Consider giving that to us! I think we give you more entertainment. You may be more thirsty... Actually today were little longer than Star Wars movie already But it's we are a better your better entertainment dollars better spent with us. Yes So is your Starbucks dollar for that matter? so we'll end up five bucks for the show with the full speech of Oompa Loompa Ram room boy, the president of the United States of Europe just you can enjoy that Yeah And I will talk to again on Sunday for the early service or coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower command center in the flight path of black Hawk helicopters

2:13:51 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the sun is shining but I betcha it rains later...I am John C. Dvorak Sunday morning early service meet us there at noagendastream dot com NoAgendaShow dot com and in the morning for NO AGENDA We have a responsibility for issues that affect the other as well. So let's work together on financial and banking regulation I should like to mention two other fronts of insecurity climate change and cybercrime In the mythical past, the famous empire of Atlantis was engulfed by the sea Let's take this as a metaphor for climate change

2:14:56 Saving the planet from climate catastrophe and the resulting global insecurity is a daunting task. But in name of Atlantis, Europe and America should take up the challenge together. The European Union and United States should lead the way in green technology. Together we can set the norms and standards not only in climate politics but also in the technology-related regulation It is the best chance we have so that the rest of the world will follow suit. A transatlantic cooperation is needed on an industrial carbon market and a global verification and compliance regime. I'm glad to announce that in today's European Council, all heads of state or government agreed we should work closely with the United States on climate issues

2:15:52 Our societies live by the grace of a free flow of goods, people and information. Networks are the arteries of the global economy. They are vulnerable – think of the internet and telecommunication banking and money transfer systems airports and energy grids cyberattacks against the nodes of modern life are no fantasy. They can happen and do happen every day. This changes our perspective on security. To quote a very valuable recent study on EU-US relations, the goal of ensuring territorial integrity must be complemented by the goal of securing the critical functions of our society."

2:16:37 We must enhance our resilience against these threats, learn how to anticipate and deal with disruptions. Both the United States and Europe are so deeply embedded in global networks that we can only do this together. Our connectedness is at stake! I would propose to take up this task in the name of Atlantis not in the name of Atlantis but in the name of Columbus The great transatlantic connector In all these areas, Europe and America can stand shoulder to shoulder. Building upon the transatlantic past and upon our values and interests that is the mission which we can make into our common story. Ladies and gentlemen a final remark We can only work together if we have respect for the political constraints under which our partner works

2:17:34 One example, six weeks ago the European Parliament rejected an EU-US agreement on the sharing of data. On the ground that civil liberties were not sufficiently protected it came as a surprise to some in Washington. The parliamentary vote is a political reality however I sincerely hope that we can find a solution with all the institutions involved and I will work on that. This vote also made me think of the European experience with the Kyoto Protocol, which the US Congress never ratified. But then again last Sunday showed a different mood in your congress I should like to congratulate President Obama on his historic successes of passing health care reform legislation My point is such votes

2:18:33 Even if divisive are exactly what we share, the most striking thing that Europe and America have in common is our pluralist democracy. Pluralist democracy means having a variety of standpoints competing on the political stage with always uncertain outcomes Internally, neither in the Union nor in the United States can we say that consensus is always achieved. In Washington you often have bipartisan disagreements. In the European Union one can add to those the divergences between 27 member states

2:19:14 Therefore, we must not treat every disagreement as a crisis or a breakdown. They are rather a sign of the death of the transatlantic relationship What unites us is more fundamental and more long-lasting Once again The only easy relationship is an empty relationship Therefore, I should like to thank the organizers for bringing us all together. It was a very great pleasure and an honor to be with you, and I stay a little while to be with you this evening. Thank You.