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00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday May 14th 2026 This is your award winning Gimel Nation Media Assassination episode 1868! This is no agenda With Pump and Circumstance, and broadcasting live from the heart of the textile country here in FEMA Region Number 6 In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Refinery Row where we're all watching what's going on in China, I'm John C. Dvorak It's Craig Blodden-Buzzkill! Yes we are China Ch-Ch-China

00:41 China, China, China. Yes but before we talk about China I had a rather interesting Reentry you're back. You are back from the hinterlands Yes, the low lands the late little old low lands and get more mate nation there and you have a report yes Always entertaining I might add yes our re-entry into well first all we had a great time No, he hung out with Christina and Kevin and then we just had fun It was great And the airport hello hotel I have to say got kind of old after a week

01:18 Yeah, yeah. Well they're not the most luxurious of places They're just handy Well they are business hotels but we were in the hotel a lot because of the shows and stuff like that But the thing that bothered me is there was a blueberry in the hallway Have you ever had this where you see a blueberry or something on the carpet? And then you come back in the afternoon The blueberry's still there And then for the whole week you're looking at the blueberry and now then someone stepped on a blueberry but never really got cleaned up the blueberry. That was very disappointing. Oh, what did you report it? No I did not report it! Well if you didn't report it what do you expect?! Well...I was waiting to- Hello World Service

02:03 I was waiting to see if they would vacuum the hallway is just a crazy, crazy example. They did not so we came back via Detroit Which is a fine way to go. You know, you can go Atlanta, Minneapolis Detroit... Detroit is a fine way to go? Yeah for a transfer Actually that airport's kind of fascinating because there's this subway system that goes in- That's inside the airport itself It's more like a monorail above it's not a subway Yeah it's weird It's overweight, it's an above weight Above weight Yeah it's above weight, it's not a subway And we decided to walk, you know The gate 73 is a long way away

02:46 But upon re-entry, we had when you have signed up this is the typical Tina things like we're doing global entry. Okay? We got global entry and you get your TSA pre check and all that to go with it So, at CB... and I should say as an aside there's pretty much it's all CBP now instead of TSA. That was just we noticed that on the way out well i mean you know i think that there's still a CDP? The Canadian District Police? No, CBP! The Customs and Border Patrol Oh oh yes who are doing most and you know everything is kind of smooth but then coming back in

03:27 So, you know we always we don't have to stand in this line. We're going to the kiosk go into the global entry kiosk and It's odd because you have a card and get your path You only need any of that just stand in front of the thing it goes biometrics Hello Alright walk on by so as we're walking up he still has to go through the little the little port and talk To the dude I said Adam and Tina Curry Well, that's interesting. I didn't expect him to come on up here family Okay And he's like okay where were you what we doing? We working over there now seeing my daughter She's gonna have a baby though this great okay Bring any cash with you now No cash and he fruits meats vegetables drugs anything else we should know nothing okay well and so we go in and we're waiting for our for our bags

04:22 And there were several Customs Border Patrol dudes patrolling through kind of the people waiting for their bags. And I saw it right away, you know and try not to look like I was patrolling And boom! Folks, can I see your passports? Okay. Passports here you go. The same questions... What are you doing? Why are there? Are they working? Bring any cash? Any meats fruits vegetables anything any drugs no none at all okay alright we get our bags were walking towards the exit another dude Hey folks so be just talk to your colleague oh really say yeah

05:03 said, it must be because we look like international diamond smugglers. Is that what it is? Why don't you step over here Mr and Mrs Curry? Me in my big mouth! So you made a snide remark It was a funny remark I'm like why are you guys targeting us do we look like international diamond smugglers yeah folks why just step over here and we're gonna do a little bag check but what was so obvious Oh they did a bag check on ya then Yeah opened everything Ooh, but the it was so obvious they were looking for cash Do you have any cash on you? How much do you want?" You're looking for cash coming in?! Yes, yes. Why?? I don't know! I said how much cash do you want? I got 80 bucks here that's all i got and they really didn't do a thorough check of the bags at all um yeah and they were nice and everything but it was just so odd they kept asking about cash... you got any cash?

06:03 And the whole time I'm thinking, you know what i'm thinking? What? There's a counterfeit ring going on in Europe. Something must be going on with cash! Yeah they're looking for counterfeit money brought into the country Hmm. Yeah, I mean that's the only thing that makes logical sense Maybe I mean and there's so much to look at in my bag You know a guy had my studio with me no nothing good ask you question about it. No not a single thing It was kind of but so it had to be the cash meanwhile. I'm thinking you guys are all sold fashion I got a Bitcoin memorized in my in my head from walking around with a full Bitcoin crossing borders didn't mention that but

06:45 Because it is, isn't that just kind of old-fashioned this whole idea of cash? Who smuggles cash across the border anymore? Especially into the country. Yeah right! Unless it's counterfeit. Oh... some of them you imagine if I had some of those Trump dollars that we got snagged with the other day what is this oh I'm sorry I'm sorry We did have a dinner with Lex and Fariba, his Persian wife. Which was interesting Yeah what's the lowdown? Well first of all we had Peking duck which is kind of strange to have that in Amsterdam

07:29 And I said, you know so what's the deal? Have you heard from your family? She says well like once a week we might get a WhatsApp message and they have to do all kinds of stuff. You sometimes get a SIM card if they find a Wi-Fi signal it is very difficult but in general when they get a message is like everything's okay nobody knows what's going on Nobody. They just don't know what's going on." And you know, it was kind of fun as we're just talking about life in Iran and Tehran and life in Iran... And I say yeah that son of the Khomeini guy he supposedly is gay! And Fadi Bargh says, oh you have no idea how many men in Iran are gay? What?! Oh yeah she says, You can't hold hands with a woman but you can kiss a man on the street

08:28 What? She says, oh yeah. There's even cave drawings in Iran of men having sex with men. Says this goes back thousands of years That sounds kind of weird Yeah It says that's what it is You can you can make out with a dude but you can't hold a woman's hand in Iran on the street and now on the other hand She made it very clear to me that hijabs have really not been a thing in Tehran for a long time. In fact, she says look out the window. Look at the street here. There are more hijabs in Amsterdam than you will ever see in Tehran which was kind of a double slap like yeah because it's true man you do not want to go to Amsterdam anymore there is no Dutch people there

09:18 It stinks. Yeah, it does stink really and much really ruin the bar scene Bar scene Actually, I have a couple clips about the the internet blackout in Iran if you want to hear them. Sure Okay 90 million people that is how many Iranians have been functionally cut off from the global Internet since January 8th 2026 not slowed down not filtered Cut off connectivity sitting at 1% of normal levels according to net blocks the digital governance monitor that has been tracking this in real time. By March 10th, the total had hit 240 hours of blackout since the start of the year. The internet monitor marked the milestone publicly calling it one of the most severe government-imposed shutdowns on record globally and that was not even the peak by April

10:14 On April 11th, the counter had crossed 1000 hours. The ceasefire between Iran, the United States and Israel had already been announced three days earlier on April 8th. The guns went quiet, the missiles stopped and the internet stayed off. That is the detail that tells you everything you need to know about what this blackout actually is because this was never about the war, the war was the cover story! Over the next few minutes I'm going to show you exactly how Iran built a two-tier information system Who is online while everyone else sits in darkness? What the regime told the world out loud about who deserves a connection and why the plan that FilterWatch obtained from inside the government makes every other authoritarian internet crackdown look like a trial run. I thought there was kind of an interesting report because you know they really did have a whole plan to cut people off from the Internet

11:15 Which, I guess could happen anywhere. If you had enough control...I don't know about the United States but I can certainly see it happening in any European country or EU nation state And here's some of that plan. The name of that plan is Absolute Digital Isolation. The document describes a deliberate, coordinated multi-year project to transform Iran's internet infrastructure into what it calls a barracks internet

12:04 Under that system, access to the global web is not a default right that gets selectively removed during crises. It is a privilege granted only to vetted individuals and organizations that pass a security clearance process. Everyone else gets the domestic intranet. Everyone else gets state television. Everyone else gets what the regime decides they should know. The plan is being built on a Huawei-based platform Iran International obtained information indicating the project is estimated to cost between 700 million and 1 billion dollars with all equipment from Huawei entering Iran in 24 containers after the June 2025 12-day war. President Massoud Pazeshkian visited the construction site in March 2025

12:58 China's ambassador also paid a visit. So, and they have these jamming systems for the Starlink and you literally have internet and Internet Pro And if you can afford the Internet pro and your on the list then you can go outside of the country and surf the web or do whatever and somehow WhatsApp once in awhile gets through so I can see it. I can see that as being a Huawei system and they sell it to everybody Hey, you guys want this? You can shut down your people Well, you know It's a bad sign but it seems like something that the people would be looking at your right the EU could do it Yeah anyone could do it maybe it should be done in some countries. Well, let's be losing control Let's be honest. It's not like the Internet has been a plus for for the world has it now well, I mean expedites things

13:51 Yes, yeah it does. But that's about it? It made our job harder we used to just be able to watch C-SPAN and now I got to watch all this other crap. It's amazing. Yeah, true. We had too much fun on the crap. Did you see any of the Hegseth hearings everyone moaning and groaning about Iran how much it costs and all of this Yeah, I saw some of it. We played a couple clips that has been going on for awhile. Yeah well my... I think it was Murkowski Where's she from again? Murkowski Alaska What is she even doing in DC? Well she's the one you have to do Murkowski was... I don't know how she actually kind of her appearance changed She was fairly attractive when she was younger Oh hold on let's take a look Yes

14:45 Well, the point is that she was a Republican representative senator from Alaska. But she's kind of middle-of-the road Republican and so they decided to primary her years and years ago. And so they brought some stiff in there run against her and they took her off... She wasn't a Republican. She couldn't re-register as an independent. So actually had this statewide write-in vote You had to write her name in the ballot. And she won! I'm looking at her and yeah, she had kind of that cute political face back in the day... you know what? She forgot to moisturize

15:30 Well, she's got a Skeletor-like look now. That's where things went wrong! Ladies you've got to moisturize particularly if you're doing a lot of flying please remember these things so she misquotes the president which I thought was just fun to listen too Now let me turn and say Secretary Hexus that the President has called Medicaid Medicare and child care little scams and said quote we're fighting wars We cannot take care of daycare. Okay, let's just go back and listen do you think that's what the president said? Did he say these are little children unlikely? And I actually said to them I said to Russell don't send any money for daycare because the United States can't take care of daycares

16:16 That has to be up to a state. We can't take care of daycare, we're big country. We have 50 states, we have all these other people who are fighting wars with-we can't take care of daycare. You gotta let the state take care of daycare and they should pay for it too. They should pay, they'll have to raise their taxes But they should pay for it and we could lower our taxes a little bit to them. To make up, but it's not possible for us to take care of daycare Medicaid Medicare all these individual things They can do it on the state basis you can't do it in a federal We have to take care of one thing military protection So that's what he really said He said the states need to take care of it Not the federal government but she twists that let's just listen to that once again now

17:00 Let me turn and say, Secretary Hexus that the president has called Medicaid Medicare and child care little scams. And said quote we're fighting wars we cannot take care of daycare. Yeah you see that's how you do it don't ignore all the preamble that he said just say he said this I'm just trying to understand that is it your position? Which is complete positioning because this is you know a Senatorial hearing and it's all about the clips and it's all about your little moment And that's what she wanted to get out, and it's dishonest. You're asking taxpayers for another half a trillion dollars for the war said American families should be forced to give up childcare and health coverage so

17:47 For your half a trillion dollars, Heg Seth you crazy Christian. For your half a trillion dollars we have to give up our health care? You can have one and a half trillion dollars for this budget Senator, that's not my department. I certainly support this and I also support the president's efforts to find and remove fraud wherever possible in a general sense. And we do that in our department as well at every step. I'm not talking about fraud. I actually asked whether an American family should lose their health care or their child care to pay for this budget? That is literally what the President suggested! Oh man... It's so good

18:28 The president has proposed a historic 1.5 trillion dollar budget that will defend the nation and space Golden Dome confront threats like Iran which previous presidents allowed to happen as senator Graham pointed out administration said they wanted to take care of this problem the question Committee the question in front of the American people is what are they being asked to give up on? for this one and a half trillion dollars. That's where I was talking about, and lastly Mr Secretary your budget request cuts through Trumps ramblings and really makes the truth clear that you and the President don't value families as much as you value defense funds.

19:07 It's such a show. You don't value families, you just like war. We're talking to the war guy first of all. Well he knows she's gonna bring valued families in and he should have thrown back at her with what do you need daycare for because she should have their truth. family structure would have. Oh yeah, hey if you're really... He's got the right interface! Yeah no he's not he's good he's not that good. No he's not that good. President Trump though you know he definitely does not care. The war also taking a toll on American consumers inflation rose last month by 3.8 percent compared to the same period last year energy prices fueling the surge with gas up 28.4 percent

19:48 That's one factor driving up prices in supermarkets and restaurants. All the lettuce. They are high, oranges are high, tomatoes are almost four times what they normally cost Before leaving for China President Trump said higher prices here at home will not influence his negotiations with Iran The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran is they can't have a nuclear weapon I don't think about America's financial situation and I don't think about anybody

20:24 Good work, President. That doesn't help his case. That does not help. So but of course we have to keep spiking the ball here so we have Patty Murray, Senator... Where's Patty Murray? Another one. Another one of these. She forgot to moisturize and takes it a little further. Mr. Secretary the war in Iran has not only cost 13 American service member lives It is also costing American taxpayers dearly Tens of billions of dollars and counting and that's money that could be helping people perhaps get health care But instead we're paying for bombs dropped into war that American overwhelmingly opposed you could have had healthcare We also all could have had like a new car or

21:09 All kinds of stuff, but she's oh no you everyone could have had health care if you stop dropping bombs Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's actually I take it back Patty Marsh from Washington State Yes, she's the idiot from Washington Yes, you should and I know that your team testified Trump swore with Iran cost 29 billion so far war with Iran That is $29 billion dollars blown on a war of choice and that's what it would have cost actually to save the A.C.A. by the way stop Good, you know this idea. They've been trying to push the meme war of choice Yeah, yeah, that's a good one they say it as a kind of a catchphrase War of Choice It hasn't caught on and they they stopped it They started right away with it and then they stopped him for a while now there bringing it back Testified Trump swore with Iran cost 29 billion so far

22:03 That is $29 billion, blown on a war of choice. And that's what it would have cost actually to save the ACA tax credits But as my colleagues have already stated What is concerning as well as it seems quite clear that that cost estimate is suspiciously low So this whole healthcare versus war Somehow that seeped into the president's brain, and he is using all kinds of healthcare terms. Have you noticed this? No. Check this out. It is unbelievably weak I would say. I would call it the weakest right now after reading a piece of garbage they sent us.

22:55 I said, am I going to waste my time reading it? Now, I would say it's one of the weakest right now. It's on life support that you understand these are all medical people. And so Dr Oz is standing behind him and he said, oh, the ceasefires on life support. Doctor Oz life support is not a good thing. Do you agree? Diagnostic. I would say the ceasefire is on. And then Oz like well yeah, that's right Mr President. Massive life support where the doctor walks in and says Sir, your loved one has approximately a 1% chance of living. But they changed their mind because they didn't put it in the paper. So when they sent us this document that we waited four days for that should have taken 10 minutes to do rather look very simple. We get that they guarantee no

23:43 Nuclear weapons for a very long period of time and a couple of other minor things, but they just can't get there Yeah So all kinds of medical did you notice how he slipped that new thing in there? What's the new thing no nuclear weapons for a very long period of time as opposed to no nuclear weapon Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely on the table yes, so they're obviously gonna do some deal where or they're working on idea where okay the moratorium on your doing them Enrichment. Yeah, how many years? Okay, ten five ten He doesn't you know they can make the argument what their your sister waiting for the 12th Imam You know What's it what there is to make whether you wait another decade or not for the twelfth Imam come on that doesn't make a difference Really that's art of the deal right there Hey listen boys here waiting for the guys gonna come he's gonna come you don't come when he's ready

24:43 That's so funny. Yeah, so the president and his entire crew are in China this has been quite interesting to watch do you have any clips on the China visit? I don't know if i do...I'm kind of all over the map with clips today But you want to do some China stuff because I've been noticing a few things. Yeah, finish your Chinese stuff up. Well, yeah, I got Trump on China. The prelude on NTD President Trump touching down today in Beijing for a high-stakes two day summit. The terms, the terms... High stakes, high stakes, pomp and circumstance is a lot of buzzwords they're using. High Stakes! President Trump touching down today in Beijing for a high stakes two day summit with Xi Jinping as rapid shifts in the global power dynamics loom large

25:41 blows to Beijing's key partners in Venezuela and Iran mounting tensions over Taiwan and human rights all expected to be on the... What's the problem with Taiwan? You gotta be sitting at home watching. This is a Chinese run operation, NTD! Why are they saying Tuan?

26:16 And today's White House correspondent Mari Otsu sets the stage for us from the North Lawn of the White House. President Trump's arrival in Beijing for a major two-day summit with Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping comes against the backdrop of a New World Order. In January, the outsources of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro dealt a major blow to one of China's key partners in the Western Hemisphere And just weeks later, US strikes on Iran hit another regime that's reliant on China with Iran's foreign minister visiting Beijing a week ahead of President Trump's visit. Again all I'll say is Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism and China has been buying 90% of their energy, so they are funding the largest state sponsor of terrorism. But more importantly Iran... The threat of attacks from Iran has closed the strait we are reopening it So I would urge the Chinese to join us in supporting this international operation There are things moving through the UN

27:13 that China and Russia have blocked. Now as President Trump is in China meeting Xi Jinping for the first time since they met in Busan, South Korea last fall talks are expected to go far beyond trade That's as the president has framed tariffs market access and the flow of fentanyl from China into the US as national security issues And while new trade agreements on U.S goods like soybeans beef and other farm products are on the table past deals with the CCP have proved fragile Like the October trade truce reached in Busan after months of zero soybean purchases from China, China only meeting the 12 million ton goal after repeated delays and extensions. The summit also coming as Washington challenges China's critical minerals monopoly. Yeah you know so everybody is spinning this in a certain way and I'm little mad at myself if i had heard your clip I never listen to John's clips for everybody listening because I want to be just as surprised as you are

28:05 I would have done a supercut of this high stakes. Here's the BBC. We start with the superpower summit in China, the US President Donald Trump has landed in Beijing where he'll meet the Chinese leader Xi Jinping for intensive talks My colleague in Beijing, Steve Lai described the moments immediately after Mr. Trump's plane touched down. We can see Air Force One just landed and taxiing to its stopping position You can see a person in military fatigues there standing alone and solitary In the center of that screen or just to the left as we go past it The plane will be turning around

28:44 China said Mr Trump's visit could be the start of a new chapter in relations between the superpowers and a turbulent world. Mr. Trump is being treated to a state visit, but significant tensions remain between the two countries and there are number of complex issues that US and Chinese delegations will need to navigate battles over trade battles fight to dominate strategically important technologies like AI mean the two sides will have some very difficult conversations ahead of them

29:22 So even if this visit seems friendly, with Donald Trump predicting several times that Xi Jinping will be giving him a big hug. There's a lot at stake here. Ah crap the other clip has high stakes in it This ABC clip has highs Everyone has high stakes With great pomp and pageantry China rolling out the red carpet What is pomp? What is pump? Pump. Ask the robot! No, I haven't even fired the robot up. Hold on a second where's the robot? Hello... Pump. All right. Pump and circumstance what's the circumstance there's another you might as well just my whole phrase is idiotic explain the etymology of pump and circumstance come on robot

30:08 Pomp. It got pomp instead of pomp. Oh, here we go... According to the Book of Knowledge, pomp and circumstance originates from Shakespeare's play Othello where in Act 3 Othello speaks the line pride, pomp and circumstance of glorious war. Pom comes from Latin and French meaning splendid display or ceremony while circumstance in its archaic sense meant formal ceremony rather than mere conditions Well, we learned something. It has been written. Yes I didn't know that. Yeah it's been written. Well that was interesting i had to say this is the first time the robot has provided something that's actually interesting with great pomp and pageantry China rolling in... Oh now we got pomp and pageantry! They're just doing alliteration that is not from Shakespeare. Carpet for President Trump

30:59 300 young people waving Chinese and American flags. Steps behind him, two of the major tech leaders he brought along Elon Musk and AI chipmaker NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Wang. Didn't you just love how everyone was going on for days like well, you know, Jensen Wang is not going! He's not going! No, he's not going here It's not going anywhere. Oh, there he is! Oh, it's going! It had hoped this trip would reset U.S. relations with China the world other economic superpower The summit had already been rescheduled once because of the war in Iran But the war is now in its 10th week and China by far the largest buyer of Iranian oil Now seeing its supply cut off And while the president claims the war won't dominate the agenda He knows it looms large

31:47 They say, they just say stuff. You'll hear them saying... Everyone is like oh this is tense it's intense It's all about this I think Trump was really looking forward to it! I think he's happy He's like... Well did you see Trump's presentation at the table? I have a couple clips of that yeah Yeah he's pretty magnanimous Yeah This is...you remember ARC America Russia China against the globalists. I really think that everyone's on a little party line, a little call, hey Vlad, hey Xi, hey Donuts how you doing? Yeah... And he's got all these guys on his side of the table and then the Chinese just got a bunch of ministers but

32:30 You know, he's got I think Tim Cook is there. Yeah yeah yeah. All these guys that are hot shots that do business with China! Yeah listen more pomp. Musk has got a Tesla factory there he's gotta be there too A key story of the day President Trump meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing when we get straight over to Eamon Javers on the ground in China. Eamons on the ground this morning good morning Yeah, good morning to you Andrew. You're looking at live pictures now of President Trump arriving at the Great Hall of the People this is for the banquet this evening remember it is evening here in Beijing and they have a star-studded cast of CEOs and political figures attending

33:13 state banquet at the great hall you just saw the president's arrived they're about to get underway we've seen cameras in the room Elon Musk is there along with a whole host of American CEOs as well. The President was greeted by pomp and ceremony earlier today... Pomp and Ceremony! Wow, this is great. Well the president was greeted by Pomp You know why they're saying this? They're saying this because oh Trump all he cares about it's that did they suck it and suck him off. Pomp! They just wants Pompe That's why they are saying

33:52 Yeah, they love that. And ceremony earlier today at that same Great Hall of the People we saw soldiers marching adoring children and of course this handshake which was a large part of the reason that President Trump traveled halfway around the world to come to Beijing to signal friendly relations with the Chinese side and he hopes to cut some significant business deals now There were some real interesting firsts. I didn't know this, but it's very rare that the Secretary of Defense or Of War as we call him would join. To Beijing for a high stakes summit with Chinese leader Xi Jinping The visit comes despite past trade tensions and rivalry between the world's two major economies

34:40 While President Trump is not being accompanied by First Lady Melania Trump, he will be joined by two key members of his administration. US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio Both visits are unusual for different reasons. Hegseth has become the first American defence chief in decades to accompany a sitting president on a state visit to China This marks a rare break from traditional diplomatic practice That is kind of interesting. Yeah, well I have a clip here you should play Because what's most interesting is Rubio is actually banned from going to China. That's the second part of my clip, but I'm happy to play yours. Oh okay well mine's a little more probably a little more elaborate The Secretary of State is traveling with President Trump in Beijing after China sanctioned him back in 2020 for introducing bills as a senator targeting the Chinese regime's crackdown on political dissidents in Hong Kong and slavery camps for Muslim Uyghurs in Xinjiang

35:39 Rubio also introduced legislation to stop China's forced organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners. Human rights are the most distinct differentiation between the United States of America and the Chinese Communist Party The Chinese Communist Party is currently conducting a genocide They do forced organ harvesting which means they pull organs out of living people to give it to officials that the Chinese Communist Party prefers Is this Rubio saying this? No, that wasn't Rubio. That was just somebody doing an analysis. NTD again? Yeah of course This is unlike any regime we've seen for say 85 years You can think back and see who else acted like that Nazi Germany And others President Trump himself has also vowed to bring some of the Chinese regimes human rights abuses back into the spotlight with the imprisonment of political prisoners

36:29 as such as the Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai and Christian pastor Ezra Jin Ming-Rae. No, they missed the punchline! They missed the punch line! Let me see if I can find it for you. ...was a vocal critic of China leading Beijing to sanction him twice so how is he being allowed entry into China? Well according to reports Beijing is using a linguistic workaround Rubio's name has been modified on official Chinese lists by altering the first syllable of his surname to Lu. This will allow authorities to bypass... Wait a minute, isn't that how they pronounce his name anyway? Ah! Secretary Lubio! Lubio, Lubio Mr Lubio you're here

37:09 It's almost like they're writing the jokes for us. Oh, I know we'll do! We can't have Rubio come but Lubio, Lubio welcome! Legal restrictions without officially lifting any sanctions. Earlier China also indicated that Rubio's past actions would not block his visits. The sanctions talk... Anyway let me see i think this is- You're right they dropped the ball on the punchline Yeah it's a great punch line Ha Saka Talilubio! Welcome to China. This is NBC. What what he wants you to hear about how China is supposedly thinking about all this But he uses really sketchy sources to this particular ceremony that we're gonna see here Jonathan, we had just had Janice explained to us tomorrow Well it's really where we'll see a lot of that pomp and circumstance when he actually meets With Xi Jinping when the two of them are together but walk us through what we're gonna See here in this moment and just how significant it is The president stepping onto Chinese soil

38:16 Yeah, I mean as your colleagues said at the outset this is the first time we've had a US president visiting China in nearly a decade. And President Trump was the last one to make this trip back in 2017 so this fairly momentous just a mere fact of the trip actually happening, right? And it is a shift in the overall tenor and vibe for the US-China relationship because after that trip in 2017 you of course had the trade war with Washington between Washington and China. And then throughout the Biden administration whenever there were encounters between two presidents, it was always in third countries, right? I think there was a real hesitation on both sides

38:54 To engage in this kind of reciprocal visit, especially since the relationship was in such a tense period Right. So again I think this really shows a shift and again almost back to an earlier era In some ways it feels like that crap. That's not the clip. I was thinking of I'm sorry I don't know second time you did yeah It happens got a lot of clips now. That's because your jet-lagged Yes, that's it. I'm jet lagged so here is a translated version of President Xi's speech just little bit here minute at the big banquet

39:32 And I'm listening to this, and like... Man these guys they got plans together. This is really nice! This is a historic visit. This year marks the start of China's 15th five-year plan for economic and social development. The over 1.4 billion people of China drawing on the rich heritage of our over 5 billion people. People of China, the over 1.4 billion people of China. How many do you think it is? What is the latest tally? Well most people are pushing at 600 million but I think around 800 million. Still a lot of people

40:16 Oh yes, two to three times as many as we have. The over 1.4 billion people of China drawing on the rich heritage of our over 5 000 year civilization are advancing Chinese modernization on all fronts through high quality development This year is also the 250th anniversary of American independence. This is nice, nice of them to mention that. The over 300... After they say hey we're 5,000 years old but happy birthday! Happy Birthday! Of American Independence The over 300 million American people are reinvigorating the spirit of patriotism, innovation and enterprise. And ushering in a new journey for the development of the United States. The people of China and the United States are both great peoples

41:11 achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation and making America great again. We can go hand in hand, we can help each other succeed and advance the well-being of the whole world." They threw out a MAGA? The whole thing that was nice! Threw a MAGA in there yeah. They said hey we could work together link arms grab Russia will fight the globalists here's our president As allies in World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt's mentions of the brave people of China. That's what they were. Through loud cheers and his speeches in the United States and- Wait a minute wait. Were we friends back then with China?

41:53 Oh yeah, we had the flying tigers over there fighting the Japanese. We had a lot of that... Yeah the Chinese and us were tight! The Japanese were on this side of China There was all kinds of workarounds, worked togethers. Then we used our land as base for landing our planes They let us do that Where did this all go wrong? When did they become the big evil China When Mao Zedong, basically maybe you know 49 I think is when that began and when they yeah and when the Kuomintang went over to Taiwan and Chiang Kai-shek. You know that kind of thing? Yeah. That era. It's just a couple of bad dudes

42:40 But it's actually you know did then they became isolationist and it wasn't until Nixon and Kissinger opened it up Yeah that we noticed that these guys have a lot of interesting capabilities Overproduction being one of them. Yeah, and then we shipped everything over there when I screw you America This is great of the brave people of China this what they were through loud cheers and his speeches in the United States and Everybody loved what he had to say, just as many Chinese now love basketball and blue jeans. Chinese restaurants in America today outnumber the five largest fast food chains

43:18 the United States all combined that's a pretty big statement. I'm surprised, surprised... Wow! I didn't hear that one about the Chinese restaurants. I'm surprised they're not calling you racist. We love that Chinese food. Egg Fu Young. President Trump is racist. Chop Suey. Racist he's racist He's made cracking jokes about them Chinese restaurants And this is the wrap where he gets the invitation to come and visit us. Right as America prepares to celebrate its 250th birthday, President Trump referencing the past in America's history talking about US-China relations over the years also talking about the present saying that today's talks between the two countries extremely positive and productive and referencing the future with an invitation to China's president to visit the White House in September

44:08 Yeah, I wish i could find that one clip of the guy. We're together... That's not it. This is- Wish you could find out. It was funny. What are you looking for? The clip where the guy was gone nuts! He was talking about he was reading stuff off Twitter Oh well the Chinese think this the Chinese thing now man. Oh yeah, just about that Yeah, maybe this was his... Henrietta Trez joins us here. Managing Partner and Director of Economic Policy at Veda Partners down there in New Orleans as they say. What are your expectations? And the expectations of people you talk to about this coming up summit with President Xi in China

44:50 Hey guys, my expectations are much like yours. Pretty low I think Secretary Besant and Ambassador Greer have been planting that perception for not just weeks but months now even before the Iran war started. No they haven't! I am really...I would call attention like your previous guests to Secretary Besant who- No they haven't This is Bloomberg. Who is the first time- Oh, Bloomberg hates Trump! Oh big time. A treasury secretary is going to be leading a delegation like this since Hank Paulson during the Great Recession for all of us who remember what that was like and the coordination that was needed around the globe so I'm really expecting if any gains are gonna be made and it's not just you know maintenance of the status quo I suspect it'll be on the soybean deal that she reached in 2025.

45:39 Everyone talks about soybeans, it'll be about this. No! I think that there's only one topic and everybody thinks it's Taiwan. I don't think it's Taiwan. I think the topic is hey Donald how do we get some of that oil? We need that oil but what are we doing can we fix the oil isn't that the only thing they care about at this point Well, I would think that would be at the top of the list because China has to get their... They suck energy. Yes. They do have a lot of coal in China. That's one thing they do have people always overlook and they have a lot of coal-fired plants that can keep things going but they need oil from Iran. Yeah and I think they'll still get it at some kind of discount

46:30 But a couple things gotta be squared away. Look at my boys here, I brought all these boys over here We're gonna let you buy some chips from Jensen we picked him up in Alaska At the last minute he was trying to hide Where's Jensen from? He is Asian but what are his roots Is he Korean? Taiwan Taiwan, really? I found the clip i was looking for. It's about time! As the president makes his way to the stairs of the temple of heaven we want to bring in NBC News chief White House correspondent Garrett Haake who is in Beijing and Garrett as we take a look at these pictures of the two leaders here

47:09 After their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier- High stakes! We saw the pomp and circumstance. Oh she throws high stakes, pomp and circumstance in one sentence? Their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier we saw the pomp and circumstance, the pageantry. Pomp and circumstance AND pageantry. Welcome ceremony and a warm tone of their remarks at the start before they went behind closed doors but what's important is what happened behind those closed doors in those two hours Yeah, that's right Francis and really we only know about that behind closed doors portion from Chinese state media at this point as you laid out the Chinese were very quick to say That they believe Taiwan is the most important issue between the US and China. So he's watching television over there

47:57 And then he quickly switches to the Chinese are saying... Notable given the fact that when President Trump last met with President Xi, the president said Taiwan did not come up at all. Clearly not the case today with Xi warning President Trump that this is an issue that could ultimately lead to conflict. But Xi didn't say anything of the kind! He did not say that. They're all parroting this, saying, well Xi said Taiwan... No! You got that off of some television station The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs describes the Taiwan issue like this They say if the Chinese were arming a US state That wanted to secede We wouldn't tolerate that in America Why should the Chinese tolerate the US position In providing arms to Taiwan? Huh? Say what?

48:42 They're making it up as they go along. Completely making it up. The Chinese tolerate the US position in providing arms to Taiwan, and is a deeply personal issue on the Chinese side Likewise another apparent warning from... Apparent? You hear that? Another apparent warning from Lee's Twitter. Likewise, another apparent warning from Xi to President Trump according to Chinese state media about trade and reminding President Trump that there are no winners in a trade war So we got media people informing media people but on the ground the guy is like you love my blue jeans I love your Chinese restaurants MAGA this Working together that I get a very different vibe than what they want and then they

49:27 They bring in... Yes, because you're listening to actually what they were saying and being recorded. That's crazy! As opposed to just making it up. That's crazy and then they bring in this thing So some fairly effusive remarks from President Trump at that bilateral meeting We also saw comments from Xi Jinping at that meeting Two warnings for the US side from Xi Jinping One was on Taiwan The Chinese leaders... But Xi never said this He has two warnings. Warnings for the US side from Xi Jinping, one was on Taiwan The Chinese leaders said that the Taiwan issue if the U.S doesn't handle it properly could lead to a dangerous confrontation he did not say anything this is what kills me

50:13 They're making it sound like he said it, but they didn't. And then here comes... Between the two countries he said Taiwanese independence is not compatible with peace in the Strait of Taiwan so a stern warning there on the issue of Taiwan and also that Chinese leader bringing up this concept of the Thucydides trap The Thucydides trap What? These trap and some from some Greek play or something again They go from pomp and circumstance to thyssidideshrap which seems unlikely the Chinese are gonna be quoting you know referring to it some Greek play methodology Or some structure It makes no sense Let me see. This is all Confucius say that would be different Thessitides trap

51:04 is the historical pattern of when a rising power threatens to displace a ruling power, war usually follows. The phrase comes from the ancient Greek historian Thucydides who observed that the rise... That's not pronounced correctly by the way but I can't pronounce it so I... Thucydides? Something like that yes or... It's impossible Who observed that the rise of Athens and the fear this instilled in Sparta made war inevitable You're right These guys are the Confucius dudes. They're not gonna use this, but okay no bringing away No concept of the Thucydides The concept that the rising power in the world Will always challenge the established power in the world and that will always lead to a conflict no Xi Jinping raising that sort of philosophy when did he raise that?

51:58 philosophical point to say that this is one of the great questions of history. US and China managed not to fall into that trap of competition and conflict and war that we've seen time and time again throughout histories okay yes all right yeah those are neighboring powers you know Spartans, little different Yeah, yeah. I think got another one here what is this? What struck me about President Xi's speech is that he's a lot of the language that he uses to describe Chinese aspirations He's now Describing two American aspirations as well this idea of Chinese rejuvenation and making America great again in order to appeal to his guest let's listen into president Trump Thank President Xi

52:55 my friend, for this magnificent welcome. And it really was a magnificent welcome like none other and for so graciously hosting us on this very historic state visit We had extremely positive and productive conversations and meetings today with the Chinese delegation earlier. And this evening is another cherished opportunity to discuss among friends some of the things that we discussed today, all good for the United States and for China, it was a great honor to be with you. Please. Yeah please. I see this as very positive. So far yeah. A food fight breaks out or something. You know and so what? Or maybe Lubio starts a problem. Hey Lubios! Lubios is his new name by the way. President Lubio get used to it.

53:57 You know, okay so if China busts into Taiwan can you keep the chips coming Xi? I mean what is really the problem. I don't know well i mean this is always... They're gonna have to say you know their best bet is to keep the chips coming because we don't want them doing them No but I mean but I don't see why If China wants to repatriate Taiwan and we already talk about it like it's part of China that's part of the diplomatic discourse So if they want Taiwan, I mean Nancy Pelosi will be like we're gonna defend Taiwan. Shouldn't we just be like okay whatever? It's fine. The dangerous aspect of this is that Taiwan is where TSMC is. But wouldn't China be nuts to say okay no more chips for you it makes no sense

54:55 Well, they do it with their... They kind of do that kind of leverage with the Rare Earths. Well but we started our defense... What is it? Defense fund? We have a fund now! Did you know that? The Rare Earth Fund? Yeah, it's um... Dunjack. Well no, it just started It's the uh... I forget what its called But it's a defense. If you want to do minerals and rare earth, you can go borrow money cheap from the government...from the war department! Yeah well we should probably do that. Hey Lubio? Can't we get some cash?! Anyway Well on top of this I think that's... We've done China. But that does bring me since there is so much lying going on

55:48 The biggest disappointment of my week. Uh-oh! So, John Kiriakou... Ha ha! He's been great! Yes I have some things just in case you didn't but i'm very very curious. ...I've now concluded he is a pathological liar Okay And it's one of these things I'm kind of tuned in and you know, I have this thing about pathological liars because I run into them now and again. It's always good to spot them as early as you can. The fact that I missed it early is annoying to me but I'm going to play what triggered me to think he's a pathological liar

56:30 Okay, and then I also did some research on his on his being arrested for being a whistleblower And it turns out that that's not really the what was happening. Oh He was actually busted for revealing classified information and outing agents wait a minute so is this kind of like My helicopter was shot down Yeah, kind of. Who was that again? Who was it that got fired from NBC? It was not Peter Jennings... The guy in the middle! The guy who came after Peter Jennings No it was an NBC guy because he got demoted to MSNBC

57:10 Yeah, no not Kerry. Not yeah John Kerry that's who it was No no it was a news guy I know but I'm just saying that as a joke Because he actually looks like John Kerry It was uh Oh man, I can't wait. You know the chat room might come up with it before we do No! The troll room is sleeping They're like Jews Israel Brian Williams thank you Brian Williams Dan OBGYN 5 Thank you Let me just read from that report I developed Okay John Kiriakou was not arrested for exposing torture itself so much as for disclosing classified information about CIA personnel and operations And then lying

57:53 Keyword there. To the CIA during the publications review process for his book, I read on here he says the Justice Department said said he admitted disclosing classified information about another CIA employee and lying in the CIA's publication review board about a magic box technique while trying to publish his book. And then when you go to the bottom of that report, it says the true story is that he was both a whistleblower on torture which was true but he was a leaker of classified information and the legal case centered around the latter

58:30 And so this brought me to his stories about when he was in jail and he befriended the mob, and he befriended the Mexican mafia. All of this is a cock-and-bull story. Then I started thinking about some of the other stuff that he's discussed Like he has a story about the capture of Carlos the Jackal and the timeline doesn't match up when you start looking at it. And everything he says is like embellishments, and he... And he does the look into the down and right thing a lot before he comes up with his tall tales. Oh, one of those tells. So I'm just so disappointed but I have to play two clips. One of them which is the triggering clip and then the other clip is just a blatant lie or creation let's say that he does on another one of these YouTuber podcasts

59:29 But here's the, here's the chaotic one. This is the one that triggered me to thinking this way. Well that's interesting because you know when we look into Epstein and then the files and emails all these dumps recently came out there was quite a bit I don't know if it had any time to read like Whitney Webb's book. Oh yeah, Whitney Webb is terrific! Yeah, Whitney's book was great It's unbelievable how many people fall for the Whitney Webb is great bit. So this guy is a CIA analyst, you know he has got insights and knows operations and the rest... And he goes for that Whitney Webb is great? Hey newsflash! There are a lot of dumb people in CIA News flash They're not all like super spooks okay In fact the new CIA is filled with numb nuts

1:00:25 So here we go. Now I want to play this clip and break it down what, I mean this is a creation and it's wrong from the get-go in every way possible right to the end and he doubles that even doubles down on a wrong fact and he interrupts the conversation then they wouldn't be so bad if it was just like During the conversation he kind of throws this in. No, no no! He stops the presses so he can tell you this valuable information about Venezuela its oil and a whole thing and it's all bullshit here we go. And if you don't mind Jay... Oh feel free Just to speak a minute about Venezuela how does Venezuela fit in or not fit into this? Venezuela is different It's separate

1:01:13 Venezuela's oil is so dirty, it is so high in sulfur. Oh man this is right up your alley oh you must have been just cringing listening to this No kidding! People have to understand if anyone wants know about oil and types of oil and refinery and mixtures and summer gas John C. Dvorak is your guy it. I worked as a refinery chemist for two years and then I became an air pollution inspector with standard oil as my beat for eight years. I have some knowledge about the business. You have standing? And, I do try to keep up in this case like look at the trades and see wait a minute how does this work how does that work Is that Oil Daily what is the trade? There's a bunch of them there's a bunch of trades

1:02:15 Oil daily is like typical. Hey, a new podcast this week in oil I'm telling you As i was doing this I ran into the fact that I was still like A decade behind on my jet fuel knowledge Oh no algae Yeah cause im just thinking JP4, which has been discontinued completely. Oh man! It will be replaced by Jet A and JP8. And I didn't you know...I was thinking oh jeez I'm still thinking these old because when i was a chemist we used to analyze the JP4 stream and make sure it had enough anti-

1:02:54 Freeze agent in it. Yeah, which is anti-icing agent? You had to get iced it down you ice the JP4 down till a froze Anyway that back to this okay back to this bullshit this week in oil with John C Dvorak or not fitting Hey J Cal new podcast for ya to this Venezuela's different its separate Venezuela's oil is so dirty, it is so high in sulfur that it can only be refined at specialty refineries where they inject tons of chemicals to try and purify it. Even still you can't purify enough to turn into gasoline right? And these refineries exist

1:03:44 Right now, for the most part only in South Florida. The Chinese built one recently and the Indians built one but for the most part the only refineries that can handle this really dark heavy oil are in Florida and the oil is used only for home heating oil So when we talk about oil and international oil, and OPEC of which Venezuela is a member. We have to keep Venezuela sort of off the side because it's a different issue from a foreign policy perspective. Wow! No mention of China? Really at all? Okay, go. Okay well let's not mention the fact that Corpus Christi Texas has most of these refiners. Yes. Most of these refineries...Texas has most of the refineries in the country. Not Florida. Corpus Christi has a dozen refineries that handle this oil Mississippi has the big Chevron refinery that handles this oil Louisiana has about half-dozen to handle this oil

1:04:40 Florida, Florida has no refineries whatsoever. It's one of 20 or so states that have no refining capability in the entire state." So he is talking about Florida. Second besides that bullshit this kind of oil is the most valuable sort of oil It's got the long hydrocarbon chains that can be broken down by cokers and fluid catalytic converters, FCCs as they're called. and they can be, this oil can be made into gasoline no problem. It could be made into kerosene, diesel and it has the advantage because it's so heavy of being used for making asphalt which is most oils can't do you can make an oil a light crude really light sweet crude You can't make it into asphalt. You don't...you just boil it down and turns into asphalt No!

1:05:41 the big heavy crudes to do all the good stuff and that's why the Brent sells for more than West Texas Intermediate on the open market. So he doesn't know what he is talking about, it is not just used for home heating oil or whatever he said. It's just bullshit, it was bullshit from the get-go and the problem with sulfur? Yeah you do and you don't use a million chemicals although it can be used some chemicals in the front end to soften the blow but generally speaking it goes into a refiner and is hit with hydrogen just hydrogen not a bunch of chemical crack it

1:06:20 No, it's not. This is a different process. This is hydrogen desulfurization which is totally different process and it turns the sulfur into H2S gas which is super toxic and kind of a plague on most refineries and then sent to a sulfur plant where its turned into elemental sulfur Yeah, which is good. And by these plants there are mountains of this sulfur and so he's full of shit this guy I love that you bring in Venezuela and yes it was fun to stop... look I could just say something I need to give you some expertise here about Venezuelan oil It's no good! It's just crud it's no good

1:06:59 But have you noticed that China has been very quiet? They were getting all their oil from Venezuela, all of their oil from Iran. I'm telling you this is not about Taiwan it's not about beans just soybeans No! It's like hey we're... You know what Xi why don't we give you oil that are nice big beautiful ships You don't have to ghost ship in the middle of the ocean. We'll just give it to you, we'll sell it to you best price It's gonna be good What ships got out of Hormuz? Chinese ships Come on, this is a America-Russia-China working together against the globalist dickheads. Sorry just have to say it. Who all circle around Carney in Ottawa Obama shows up Soros shows up. Well we got it We're the new liberal world order! We can do it rules based liberal New World Order No These guys they got it They get it. I'm gonna work together

1:08:03 We're going to compete where it makes sense, but what we're not going to do is I'm not going to be part of that stupid system anymore. That's what's happening so now Kiriakou He's an op It's also now that you play these clips he may just be really stupid and just loves getting on podcasts Does he have another book? He must have another book. Oh, he came up with if he's got three books so far Because he was on, I forget which podcast this was and maybe... He by the way ended up on Jesse waters the other now so he gets around and they brought oh, it's Kiriaka I think it's just cuz a cool name the Oh carry got a cool name And he's here. We are got this story tells about his being a whistleblower and this is why never got to pardon But oh by the way just back to the oil Mexico in Ecuadorian oils pretty much the same as Venezuelan oil and nobody bitches about that stuff

1:09:00 But anyway, he Kiriakou's always moaned and groaned about getting a pardon because he's this great whistleblower. No! He's not getting the pardon because he's not a whistleblower. He was busted for being a leaker and if Trump hates people anyone that he hates the most is a leaker. So you remember on Sunday I played a clip Was Sunday? I think it was Sunday or Thursday. From the New Yorker guy, and like oh Tucker Carlson he's the guy that can do it! He can run against Trump! Remember that clip? Oh hold on a second gotta grab that one... You remember right? Oh yeah Yeah So when I heard this little ditty these three little short clips from Kuriaka I'm like this is an op

1:09:51 And it could be that it's... So, my initial thinking was this is an op. This is a CIA op because there are still a lot of CIA-CIA people no doubt you don't hear Trump talking about the CIA much He has got Ratzenberger sitting there like if you just keep him away from me Ratzenberger? Is that his name? Richsenberger? Ratzenberger? Yeah, Ratzenberger is good. Ratzenberger! And then Kyriakou does this If you look at the polls somebody like Tucker Carlson Has an actual shot at winning this thing. So yeah, I spoke about this recently Okay

1:10:30 And I love this chick by the way on the pocket. Yes No, by the way with Kyriakou nobody on any of these podcasts ever pushes back on any of the bullshit that he says yes Because you know obviously if you're a podcaster You want do you want your podcast president? You want Tucker Carlson to be your president? Yes If you look at the polls Somebody like Tucker Carlson has an actual shot winning this thing what pole is he reading so yeah I spoke to him about this recently okay and he professes to not be interested Glenn Greenwald is another popular

1:11:21 writer, podcaster, commentator. Commentator? I think Glenn Greenwald would consider himself a journalist! I know that Glenn has spoken to him as well like you have to run and I told Tucker a week ago... I said I doubt it. You have to run. That's true. No he is lying of course but it's fun listen. Like you have to run and I told Tucker a week ago I said you have to run and I'm all in And he said well, no it's yeah. I'm not a politician which is true But that's exactly what America wants they don't want to politicians They want someone they can trust and out of everybody that's out there in the chattering class like you in the chattering class ah That's what we are John way in the chattering class. Yeah, well we're chattering They want someone they can trust and out of everybody that's out there in the chattering class like you and me

1:12:12 He's the one that people trust the most. Yes, what? I Never said that those words never let parted my lips. I'd never said anything like that read my lips I've never said Trump is the Antichrist ever at all but he goes on our boy Kiriakou because he says what he believes even at a significant personal cost He has to have security now. Really? He has to, he has to have security because he's becoming so prominent, so important. He's getting threats and we're in this crazy period right now three different people who've tried to kill Donald Trump Okay stop for one second There is a clip going around of somebody with I guess his pal filming it with the camera They caught Tucker at the grocery store It's an old clip

1:13:03 Oh, is that an old clip? Very old clip. Yeah Okay But the guy was harassing him You know Tucker just walked away I mean he didn't have security with him then No This is Kiriakou He said that his family members have received threats Absolutely I'm size to run. It's it's gonna really set his life in danger. Yeah, we're a danger So maybe that's what he's contemplating. I think that's exactly what he's contemplated. I think that is I think that his primary Concern is his family as it should be and I think that he's probably thinking What do I get out of this?

1:13:42 I get one headache after another. Yeah, he likes his life He lives in a in a beautiful part of the country He's an avid fly fisherman so you can go fishing anytime he wants why change that is it really worth it? What are you saying well, I got one more clip by the way We know that in the winters in the winter Tucker goes around and has dinner with his friends Remember that clip it's like oh in the winter I go and have dinner parties. We're having a dinner party in DC Okay with that said you compared You compared what might be in 2028 with Ron Paul and Ross Perot, and I'm gonna add John Anderson. John Anderson was a liberal Republican congressman – no such thing exists anymore – a liberal Republican congressman from Illinois in 1980. He ran against Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter. In the end, Reagan got 51%

1:14:41 Carter got 41% and Anderson got 7%. Anderson had no money. Wow! And he got seven percent of the national vote, well Ron Paul got under two percent when he ran Ross Perot got a good 20%, but he also spent you know almost... Ross Perot dropped out? What is he talking about?! Ross Perot didn't run. Yeah, he dropped out because he was being threatened. They said I'm gonna kill your family and rip their heads off! Okay? He ran. Ross Perot got a good 20 percent but he also spent you know almost a billion dollars out of his own pocket This year could be different. Oh Tucker. This year could be different because if you look at the polls people hate the Uniparty

1:15:29 For all intents and purposes, the Democrats and the Republicans are just different sides of the same coin. They essentially agree on everything there are minor disagreements around the edges that they want us to think our grave differences in...they're not I have to restate my thinking now because, initially thought this... Now i know it's an op. We've got the New Yorker saying Tucker, Tucker, Tucker and then Kiriakou but now I think this guy just likes being on podcasts! He'll mimic anything he hears and anything he thinks is popular Yeah, he loves being on podcasts And he's latching onto Tucker's coattails, I guess Well, he did Tucker's show

1:16:14 Unremarkable was one of his worst podcasts, I think. He was too starstruck by Tucker His future president President Tucker Actually it's a possibility What? That he was starstruck Yeah But not that Tucker would ever run or would ever become the president No it's dumb There is too much going on with him Anyway Yeah, so that's my very disappointed because I was hoping to turn you know because he has a slanderous people on you know by one person after another Giuliani should be in jail. He goes he has a whole bunch of and I was hoping to make it You know kind of a Department is segment of the show the trick yuri Aku slam here. I go then I realize he's full of shit Oh

1:17:08 Did you see Netanyahu on 60 Minutes? I did not. Oh, this is great! So clearly BB has seen the writing on the wall—the proverbial writing on the wall—and he's looking at things and going like man, I gotta make a statement man. These kids are killing me. They're making me look bad it's like they got the wrong idea about Israel...I have an idea Do you believe it's time for the state of Israel to re-examine and possibly reset its financial relationship? This is a scripted question. United States, meaning what the United States provides to Israel on an annual basis Absolutely And I've said this to President Trump, I've said it in... To our own people Their jaws dropped but I said look Laugh toe, laugh toe I've said it into our own people

1:18:03 Their jaws dropped, but I said look. What do you mean? What are you saying? I want to draw down to zero the American financial support the financial component of the military cooperation that we have Because we receive, we receive 3.8 billion dollars a year and I think that it's time that We weaned ourselves from the remaining military support Can you give me a timetable? Yeah...I said let's start now And do it over the next decade Over the next 10 years But I want to start now I don't wanna wait for the next congress I wanna start now

1:18:44 Well, that'll be no good. Then we can't say that we give money to Israel anymore. That's not good. Can't have that! Then and then he went into this is his own personal thing about the cell phones. You know, he's got no weapons man I got no juice. I got no social media juice. I gotta pay people I have people got to do stuff. I got a geo fence the churches We got to have some good stuff about Israel, but I don't see course I've been through them. I've been in battle. I've seen friends die in battle And you would reject any characterization of... No, I can't do very much of that because you can get into the cell phones and you can repeat again and again that I'm a warmonger. Remember what he says? Warmonger this it's about him being a warmonger Oh This is no good people calling me a warmongers! And you can repeat Again and again that i'm a warmonger remember what they discriminate

1:19:36 Sometimes used yeah indiscriminate whereas discriminating is surgical as any army has ever been in history not only with the beepers and not only With those leaders in Iran and not only putting Lebanon and in Gaza in Lebanon in Gaza. Yes We do everything we can to avoid it. We've killed 2,000 terrorists now since the beginning of the this Right of the roaring lion epic fury And we've been very careful to target them But if you know people say that you're a warmonger, and then the repeated ad nauseum. You know it assumes the cachet of self-evident truth and that's what's happening you get into their cell phone you get in you get the bots to repeat it you show picture here or picture there of a tragedy for us in Israel every civilian death is a tragedy for our enemies its strategy they implant themselves among civilians so that they have civilian casualties and can put on the tube

1:20:34 or in your cell phone. So yes, I mean, I don't know how to fight it. Churchill without cell phones and without digital campaigns and farm bots was labeled a war monger in the 1930s because he said you have to stand up for Hitler. And they accused him of being a war monger. And Hitler didn't even say death to America, death to Britain. You know? I think he might have planned it but he didn't say And still they accused him of that. And he won the war and lost the re-election. Little snipe there, he won the war but lost the election. Yeah, Bibi's fighting for his life here I think

1:21:11 Yeah, well yeah because if he once he gets tossed out of office which should happen. Mm-hmm eventually He gets arrested for some corruption charges as the courts are lined up against him That's why I've been trying to he's been trying to prolong the war in Iran We can't we can't stop this world Trump you can't win this war man then I'm a dead man walking Can't do it. Can't do it I got a couple other things here. There's also the CIA, the real whistleblower showed up in front of Congress to bitch and moan about... Oh well allow me to play this setup for you. Hold on. The setup is because the CIA was very mad about this guy Yeah it would be too if i was the CIA hold on let me find this uh

1:22:11 making it look as though the CIA's, what happened was the CIA is now so well okay play that. Well go ahead you tell me. Yeah my thoughts are the other CIA were largely suckered by Fauci who had some things to say in fact one of the first clips I play here will kind of introduce the idea that they didn't want to hurt China's feelings or there was something that was going on nobody knew about it. The whole thing was very scamish When it was all Fauci doing his gain of function stuff and using a Chinese lab to do it.

1:22:49 You know, it's like he is covering his own ass. This guy... Mimi was bitching about this guy. Talk about a guy who is skating! You got Rand Paul just going after him from the get-go knowing that he was lying because Rand Paul had somebody read him in on what was going on so he always asking these pointed questions and in the hearings to Fauci to get them to lie light over and over again, they're not going to do jack to Fauci. Here's the clip about the CIA being mad about the whistleblower you have clips of. I want to give you a little color that we are getting from the CIA just now They are not happy with the way this hearing is going down They are accusing Senator Rand Paul and the Senate Homeland Security Committee

1:23:34 quote acting in bad faith and putting this hearing together. They say this witness in there isn't a whistleblower, they say he hasn't sought any whistleblower protections they said he's in that room right now because the committee subpoenaed him compelled him to come in and testify and the CIA says they weren't given a heads up about this the committee didn't go through the proper channels , but instead in response to the subpoena issued by chairman paul this proceeding amounts to nothing more than a dishonest political theater masquerading as a congressional hearing. As the CIA has already assessed, COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab leak and efforts undermine that conclusion are disingenuous. Well Harris, as Senator Rand Paul was walking into that hearing room this morning again he chairs this committee

1:24:38 I told him about that CIA statement, and told him they're accusing him of operating in bad faith. I asked him to respond to that here's what he said The CIA says the committee acted in bad faith with this here and they just sent out a statement. Your response to that? You know, I think transparency is good. I think we over classify everything Congress passed a law to unanimously declassify all of the COVID information We all want to know the truth Where did it come from why has it taken so long for people to admit to it now almost every agency admits that It did come from the lab but they still haven't been forthcoming There's no reason have secrets on this

1:25:15 We want them to obey the law. The CIA needs to obey the law and they need to reveal the information There you go, so CIA mad In fact he's right there was a law passed that said we have to declassify everything And the CIA acted in bad faith Exactly exactly right So you know this is the old, you are what I say. I am what I say you are which is a Dutch phrase. What je zegt ben jezelf met je kop door de helft. I got a new one did ever tell you about stront aan de knikker? No! Poop on the marble? No poop on the marble... Someone has dogs nowadays so... Poop on the marble this is what we would say when you get a whistle blower like this for the CIA je hebt stront aan de knikker. There's poop on your marble

1:26:03 And I guess back in the day if you were playing marbles and it rolled through some poop, you had poop on the marble. That's another fine... Oh it was poop on THE marble not a marble floor! No no, on THE marble that you're playing marbles and then all of sudden your marble runs through poop but you got poop on the marble Wow, I've never played marbles as a kid with poop in the area. I try to stay out of the area that would have poop. Of the Dutch you know they used to have a lot of poop around i guess? Guess so well here goes CIA whistleblower uh there's the intro one Next Republican senators questioned a CIA whistleblower today over allegations that the intelligence community downplayed evidence supporting a COVID-19 lab leak

1:26:44 Lawmakers accused officials of withholding documents as well as shaping analysis to avoid blaming China. NTD's Chris Bobb has more from Washington. Oh, alright! See now this is where I disagree I don't think it had anything to do with blaming China. Trump was calling it the Chinese virus. Yeah, right? Racist! He's racist! Yeah... yeah... The Spanish flu is not racist. The Hong Kong flu and all that stuff. We've been through all of that. We went through that but so I don't think he had anything to do with blaming China It was the fact-I still think this is true as has been discussed. I think there are liability issues

1:27:28 For all the dead people in the world because of the leak of this COVID-19 SARS virus And it was developed by the United States as a weapon or something. Yeah, and Foushee was behind it and along with some other people that he worked with his middlemen I think there's liability issues. I think there's lawsuits for death. There should be And nobody wants to look at it from that perspective. I don't think anything to do with blaming China They were blaming China anyway, the wet market. All these dumb Chinese they eat pangolins I mean it's ridiculous So this was...I still think there is a liability issue and i think that needs to be explored We developed biological weapon and killed people with it we need somebody should sue somebody

1:28:24 I'm with you. Where is Rob the constitutional lawyer? We need this. He's around, okay here we go! Bring out the suits and boots! I am here today to discuss the COVID cover-up. Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of the lab incident. Republican Senator Rand Paul at a Senate hearing questioning CIA whistleblower James Erdman on how COVID origin assessments were shaped. For years, Americans were told to trust the experts so the very scientists that were commissioned to investigate COVID were in some cases the very scientists who are complicit in the origins of the gain-of-function experiments

1:29:05 Erdman also described a top-down push inside the CIA over whether COVID most likely originated through a lab leak. There was new information that came out in 2022, 10 CIA scientists that were said why don't you go ahead and do a COVID relook? Eight of the ten were definitely leaning in on LabLeak. Erdman said management pushed analysts to revisit their findings after a new assessment emerged. Six of seven technical experts say Yep, we still think it's a lab leak. Management changed the analytic line. Senator Josh Hawley questioned why the Biden administration released only a five page report after Congress passed a law requiring declassification of COVID origin materials saying that statements in the document were false? They said number one that nothing that was researched at the Wuhan Lab could plausibly be a progenitor of SARS-CoV2

1:29:57 Are those true statements? But no, they're not true. And if they aren't our screw-ups here in the US why would the U.S government cover up for the CCP? Erdman said one of the top scientists who did not want to go public said to him... Nobody wanted the lab leak conclusion and I'm concerned that there's too many people willing to make excuses for China in this organization for the wrong reasons Yeah, I think it's always the cover-up. They always screw it up in the cover-up they're no good at it It's always the same The cover-up is what makes it worse

1:30:34 Yeah, pretty much. And if you listen to this guy... Unless you get away with it? But you can't get away with it! The guy is talking about Fauci injecting emails and then changing the national intelligence assessment It's the whole thing is corrupt and full of crud and the question is will anything come of it Yeah, you know my take on that is no. No your take is always pretty much no yeah well... Because the Republicans have they have no backbone they haven't got the wherewithal to really But this isn't a political thing this should be a Department of Justice thing The Republicans can't throw someone in jail

1:31:19 They can only bring lights. I know, they do a referral and then it dies! Well that... there you go. There you go. Alright here's one more clip It is however the season of reveal. We're seeing everything You've been saying that for five years Well I didn't say the season of arrests, I said the season of reveal It's correct. Here we go. Senator Ron Johnson said he wanted a bipartisan committee like the church committee to review intelligence agencies, but he pointed to the fact that no Democrats attended the hearing. It is well past time for us to have a church committee. We're not going to get by part of support for church community there's there's no curiosity on the other side about what's happening inside the deep state. Senator Paul argued There is no reason why scientific arguments surrounding COVID-19 origin should remain classified

1:32:09 Reporting from Washington, D.C., Chris Bobb, NTD News. Let me put it out there wasn't one Democrat at the hearing they all bailed that they all boycotted it. Oh really? That's interesting. All the seats of Democrats were empty so the guy is going to talk about their origins of COVID and the Democrats refused to come to the meeting that's the story right there why didn't they do that you know they did discuss it a little bit here and there but It was, why? I mean it's like are they CIA stooges in the Democrat Party or were they pro-COVID? How about this... Vaxxers! Yes. The answer is yes. Pro COVID, pro vaxx, pro social distancing, pro grandma... Masking Empty chair at the table Lockdowns. Yes, yes they were definitely pro... Empty chair at the table Yeah here's one of the clips from this hearing

1:33:03 And I'll jump to June 2021. We as the IC at the NIC, that's the intelligence community of the National Intelligence Community something or other happily pursued those recommendations and in one email which I'll describe to you The person in charge of leading the 90-day study, he introduced himself to the community on what they were supposed to be doing. And then the community said, listen we've got these people that we should be talking

1:33:42 And another very senior NIC officer sent a direct email to him saying, hey considering that Dr. Fauci is a public health expert are you sure we should be relying on this? Shouldn't we have a separate set and in this instance the individual responded no in this case dr Anthony Fauci is a subject matter expert however that's directly contradicting his public testimony of being a subject matter expert. Part of the job in intelligence when you interview someone is assessing their truthfulness, their potential biases or conflicts of interest did anyone ever bring up that Anthony Fauci approved research that went on Wuhan and it might not be in his interest for the conclusion to be that came from a lab he had funded? That there might be a conflict... Did anybody ever bring up that he might not be an objective

1:34:34 witness. It was more subtle than that. Nobody said this is happening and unfortunately, I think they probably should have it was all out there. The Hanta virus. There are now 11 confirmed cases from the hantavirus outbreak on that cruise ship which has killed three people now and the World Health Organization says all the infected or either passengers were crew from what they never but they never mentioned here on CNN is what the world's World Health Organization says, which America no longer is a part of

1:35:32 We no longer are a part of the World Health Organization or 60 plus other globalist organizations. We're not apart of that so it doesn't count anymore. And the World Health Organization says... all the infected are either passengers or crew from the MV Hondias. In the meantime, at least 29 Americans who were on the ship are under monitoring across multiple US states 16 of them are in a special facility in Nebraska including Jake Rosemarin he spoke to NBC today about his life under quarantine I do not have the virus. Well, I have no symptoms. I feel good and i'm in good spirits right now Everything's fine but that's not how media works and luckily

1:36:15 I'm pretty sure the American people won't fall for it anymore, although man it was wall to wall coverage in The Netherlands every talk show. All the same people pop up again. Oh! I can go on TV wait let me get my scarf We bring in former White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr Deborah Birx. Dr Birx thank you so much for being here helping us shine a light on what's going on and easing some concerns hopefully Good to be with you, Alex. All right so some fear that this hantavirus outbreak on this cruise ship could lead to another worldwide pandemic if not properly contained similar to what you dealt with... Oh brother! ...the coronavirus pandemic Do you believe the world is seeing the early stages of yet another pandemic? Are we here again?!

1:37:00 No, it's certainly not contagious like COVID. And we have a lot of experience with the virus so we actually know how this virus works and how it affects people I think one thing that we want to do and we're not really talking about is decrease the anxiety of all the passengers on that ship and the way to do it is to do a PCR test. That tests whether you have any of that RNA from that virus in your bloodstream. That is much earlier than symptoms, much earlier than the classic immune responses that have been measured so we want to reassure those passengers and I think that's the quickest way to just ask them to get that blood test

1:37:37 weekly through those 40 days and really decrease the anxiety that they have, both the ones that are coming off the ship tomorrow and the ones that left a ship early that are distributed around the world. Blood tests? What happened to this swab up your nose?! What is this blood test... PCR we just stuck a thing up your nose and swirled it around like oh you got COVID I'm sorry but she's not stopping Oh No she's ready for bear. Why? Because this is what the media does. Yeah, it's interesting because this is ringing a bell to what we reported not all that long ago with Gene Hackman and his wife if I'm not mistaken... Yes! She says yes yes she died from it. Long ago with Gene Hackman and his wife if I'm not mistaken this is the exact same virus that they... She wasn't on the ship when she died

1:38:29 died from. So is that just a coincidence that we're just hearing more about this? Or is there any evidence to suggest that maybe this particular violent virus is proliferating across our world? Oh, that's it! Proliferation... Quentin stop the presses Who is this guy?! He's News Nation. NewsNation. Oh brother. He's good. Concept you raised. Oh wait so we got another laugh tale standby Well, this is a very important concept you raise. Because someone died! This particular virus is proliferating across our world and country Yes yes... Well this is a very important concept you raised so there's a question about whether warmer or colder changes in the weather are increasing the amount of mice that come inside to cabins and- Mice? What happened to rats?! I'm so confused

1:39:24 Is it rats or mice? And now she says mice. It's actually both, but you know... Well it makes a difference I got mice in my house! I don't have rats, I've got mice! You've got mice?! Get rid of them!! Yeah well we had mice. I'm an expert trapper. I love the old-school traps. I put the nice little bit of Merlot infused cheese on that thing and you can hear it. They also like chocolate Oh really Yeah, mice love chocolate. Oh I always use cheese. And it stinks more so they can smell it farther away although if you have a stinky cheese they're probably attracted to that and you know and I love... I used glue traps mostly Now there's..I find those to be cruel No tell me why let me tell ya It's cruel You got the mouse he stuck on the glue trap He starts to make noises you take another glue trap and push it on top of them as you push down and listen to them moan It's quite remarkable

1:40:20 Did you used to stick firecrackers into frogs butts as a kid I mean, no Don't like one of those. I love dogs and cats. I loved I love when you're sitting watching TV You hear the and then you know, yeah what? Yeah got that thing in the family room What kind of mice problem do ya have? No we have it in the laundry room because there's uh There's holes in the laundry room You know, they find ways to get it. But you know he's dead right away It's not like he's not like squirming and yet to put out the glue. Yeah, you're a sadist. You're a horrible man increasing the amount of mice that come inside two cabins into households and Then you get exposed by cleaning that up We've always had hantavirus in the United States not the same strain

1:41:09 as Andes and the Andes virus in Chile and Argentina, but very similar. Right? So we've always had the problem from mice I think this is the first time beyond the reports from Argentina and Chile of really a human to human outbreak and it does give us chance to study whether there has been what you described molecular changes in the virus that makes it more contagious the whether there has been what you describe, molecular changes in the virus that makes it more contagious and they'll be doing all of that. They're sequencing all of these strains. And the world is really working together and that's the other important thing. The world is working together but we are the world! We're working together go back to the World Health Organization. Sequencing all of these strains

1:42:20 And the world is really working together, and that's the other important thing. The world has worked together both to protect those individuals on the ship and the communities as they disembarked. But the world is not working together to protect the people on this ship but hey something very important is going down here This is the ANDES variant of the Hanta virus. It's different So the ANDES strain is the only strain where we have mapped human-to-human transmission I caution people because When we say human-to-human transmission, we're talking about people who develop symptoms. But because we're not testing... Oh no! Don't laugh! Because you're not testing... We are talking about people who developed symptoms but because were not testing populations with RNAs, we don't really know whether there are subclinical cases so there could be more human to human transmission than we actually see it's never good to track viruses through symptoms

1:43:17 We should be tracking viruses through blood tests like PCR. We learned that with COVID, extraordinarily helpful many universities were able to open and schools were able to open because they provided weekly testing and it really prevented spread so we know how to deal with these virus. I did weekly testing and it really prevented spread. So we know how to deal with these viruses, we just need to move into the 21st century and make testing more widely available to those who need it." Has she had a new testing company? Is that what she's working now? But ABC is in on this stuff man! I'm telling you they're spinning up they're trying to see if they can catch a wave because it was a great way to screw Trump

1:44:05 They love that. If they can do it, if they can spin it up and get enough people... I'm seeing masks! I traveled, I saw a lot of masks Democrats but they were all masks. You go over to say you vote for Kamala? Yeah yeah It's happening they can do this if they push hard enough the China thing is a sad distraction And they gotta do something. Health experts across four continents are still tracking down and monitoring passengers who disembarked from a cruise ship that was hit by the Hantavirus outbreak Many of those passengers left before the outbreak turned deadly The last remaining travelers are now off that ship, and they've boarded flights to more than 20 countries where they're going to be entering quarantine ABC's Danny New is in New York with the latest

1:44:52 Today, with US passengers from that luxury cruise ship now in quarantine growing concern around questions being raised at the Andes variation of the Hanta virus may spread more easily than previously thought. who said that at least three of the people who got infected did not have close contact. I mean, we haven't had just casual contacts sitting next to somebody for half an hour at a meal." They're trying! They are seriously trying...I doubt it's gonna work but i think there is some meetings going on like you know We can do something with this let's give it a shot Let's throw it against the wall see what sticks maybe we get lucky Maybe we get lucky

1:45:38 I mean, yeah maybe. They are so desperate to get rid of Trump Yeah, yeah i think you're right Hey and what is this with Marty McCary? I don't know anything about Marty McCary. He's the FDA commissioner, he resigned and there was... Yeah! But what he resigned over is what's confusing me. Dr. Marty McCary resigned as Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday The decision came after he authorized flavored vapes What? A product that he was skeptical about following pressure from the White House What Politico described McCary's 13-month tenure at the agency as one marked by mass layoffs, high turnover among senior officials and policy fights. Among his critics were Republicans who wanted the FDA to restrict access to the abortion pill Mifepristone Pharmaceutical companies also complained that the FDA was inconsistent in their review of drugs under his leadership Kyle Diamantis, the FDA commissioner for food will replace McCary on an acting basis So every report has this flavored vapes bit

1:46:41 How can that be such a huge issue? I don't get it either. Here's Trump. Well, I don't want to say but Marty's a great guy. He's a friend of mine he's a wonderful man and he's going to be off and the assistant the Deputy is taking over temporarily until we find everybody wants that job it's a very important job Marty is a terrific guy but he's gonna go on and he's gonna lead a good life But he's gonna go on, he's gonna lead a good life. Like a horse! Exactly! He's not going to the glue factory... He broke his leg racing but it's okay we're not gonna kill him he'll go on to live a good life Marty is a terrific guy but he's gonna go on and he's gonna lead a good life. He was having some difficulty you know he's a great doctor and he was having some difficulty but he's gonna go on that he's gonna do well

1:47:45 He's gonna do well on the farm, but everybody had this flavored vape. Study him out! Here is NPR. The Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration has resigned Dr Marty McCary told President Trump he was leaving Tuesday after 13 tumultuous months on the job In a few minutes, we'll hear from ahead of the FDA in Trump's first term about McCary's tenure. First the details. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sydney Lovekin is here to talk about the change. Good morning Sydney! Good morning! Why is this happening? Well I'm told that the final straw for McCary was White House pressure to okay flavored vapes something he did not agree with. I don't understand how can... if maybe it's

1:48:32 Something is up with the vapes and I'm out of the loop on this. And flavored, it has to do with vapes and that can only mean that the tobacco industry is mad or someone's really mad about this? Well, it's also the coincidence of like through you know some millions and millions of bad vapes that came in from China that were busted. Yeah I want there is any connection there? It seems unusual coincidence The White House apparently was pushing the flavored vapes But were they?! Well, good point. I never heard anything... Good point! We don't know

1:49:16 Now, I personally think...I don't like these pre-made Chinese vapes. I think there is a place for vaping instead of smoking if you're a smoker to stop smoking. I think there's a real place for that The flavored vapes, yeah, you know... I don't think any of the flavored stuff is good but it report after report so I don't know we actually have We have one of our producers a lobbyist and maybe she can write in and let me know what, maybe she has some insight into the deal because I think she did something on vapes too. But then i got this pharma analyst from Bloomberg who a couple of short but a couple of interesting things he said here

1:49:59 So there's been a lot of flux. And when you get flux, and they fired 3,000-3,500 individuals maybe I don't have the exact number but something in that sort of region this is a lot of old time knowledge that's left to the agency some refresh is pretty good but all of this has happened under the caretakership of Marty McCurry and to all intents and purposes, the folks I talk to say that he's a perfectly knowledgeable wonderful man. I have friends on this on the buy side who say to me that he's been very good to them... Well what does that mean? I have friends on the buy side who say he has been very good to them! To me it sounds like this guy was still deep into Big Pharma or something

1:50:52 When an analyst says, I have friends on the buy side... How come nobody's talking to Kennedy? That's the question i have right now. I'm a journalist looking at this my first thing they talk to is Kennedy Kennedy's his boss. No, we don't have anything from Kennedy Let me finish this to all instance and purposes the folks I talked to say that he's a perfectly knowledgeable wonderful man I have friends on this under by side who say to me that has been very good to them And then on the other hand they're very good or these issues and some biotechs having issues at some bio techs having Issues yeah there we go and then on the other hand be here all these issues and some biotechs having issues etc

1:51:36 So I wouldn't be surprised if there's something happening here. Yeah, so it's clear that...I think McCary was still way deep into Big Pharma somehow. Not sure exactly why but we don't know. I do have a clip from RFK Jr about Trans which I think he is setting some policy. Did you see this? Nope, this was pretty good. Doctors assume a solemn obligation to protect children yet doctors across the country now provide needless and irreversible sex-rejecting procedures that violate their sacred Hippocratic oath by endangering the very lives that they are sworn to safeguard The American Medical Association, The American Academy of Pediatrics

1:52:28 peddled the lie that chemical and surgical sex-rejecting procedures could be good for children who suffer from gender dysphoria. They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American youth ages 13 to 17." Three hundred thousand John! 300,000 children they mutilated with this nonsense Have you noticed... The lack of the Democrat Party talking about trans lately? They're not using that as their campaign slogan anymore, are they? No but they still have trouble with people that reject it. Yeah.

1:53:07 They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American youth ages 13 to 17. Conditioned belief that sex can be changed they betray their Hippocratic oath to do no harm so-called gender affirming care has inflicted lasting physical and psychological damage on vulnerable young people this is not medicine it is malpractice we're done with junk science driven by ideological pursuits not the well-being of children. A peer reviewed report published by the HHS office of the Assistant Secretary for Health last month confirms that sex rejecting procedures impose medical dangers and lasting harm on children who receive these interventions so today we are taking six decisive actions guided by gold standard science

1:54:04 and the week one executive order from President Trump to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. This morning I signed a declaration that sex-rejecting procedures are neither safe nor effective treatment for children with gender dysphoria." Let's see some doctors at a tribunal! That is what we want. The lawsuits help Yeah, but really... We need some people going to jail over this. This was Mengele level crap It's really horrible. And for whatever reason, you just see video after video of these poor children who are now detransitioning and can't. I know it's terrible! Especially the lie that well you can stop anytime you want with these puberty blockers. It's not a problem. Big lie

1:54:59 Well, maybe that's depressing. Well then let's do us. Let's do how about your tech? Oh, I got a couple of things We don't have much time left but I got a couple I did offbeat items You don't want to do your year using AI is that no good? No, that's no good If by definition That's no good. All right But it was kind of interesting is the NPR is open as Sam Altman stuff. Oh, yeah Because it really makes you wonder what the hell is going on. Just try the NPR clips. Let me see, number one! What was Sam Altman's main defense on Tuesday in court? Well this case really has come down to the idea of frankly which billionaire you believe is doing this right way You know, on the one hand we have Elon Musk who is no longer a part of OpenAI

1:55:48 but says he only wanted to build AI responsibly and was tricked into leaving the entity with Sam Altman at the helm. Altman essentially says, look you left the the company in 2018 and said that you were done with it, you never... And you haven't contested that in the few years since you left. Now your suing later on because your building a for-profit competitor to us called XAI which is also developing artificial intelligence. An example came up in court of Musk suggesting a deal that would turn Open AI into a for profit?

1:56:32 That's right. One of the things that the opening eye side is saying is like, look there are plenty of emails in the past that has Elon Musk essentially speaking out on both sides of his mouth and saying we could have done an earlier deal to make this into a company with equity structures that has Elon Musk in control over it and potentially profiting from it. And the idea being that, you know, Elon wants to say he's been doing this sort of selfless building of AI for years now but actually he has been interested in taking a stake of his own just even as he's saying he hasn't

1:57:11 Yeah, well we know what the basic lawsuit's about but we don't really get any good details. No and then the funny thing is I'm kind of on the side as much as i don't like Altman I do like Musk yeah but I don't think he got tricked. Musk doesn't get tricked! He invested a bunch of money early on and it looked like it was going nowhere so he kind of bailed out. And now, he looks back on it and says hey, wait a minute! And he decides to do this... I'm not believing any of the Musk side of this. How has Musk characterized Altman's trustworthiness? And how did Altman respond?

1:57:52 So Sam Altman's testimony was actually pretty brutal when Elon Musk lawyers went after him. Basically, it became an attack on Sam Altman's character and the idea that Sam Altman this guy who 10 years ago in private was saying he wanted to build AI safely with Elon Musk could no longer basically be trusted to do so. And Elon Musk's attorneys trotted out a laundry list of things that said essentially everyone in Sam Altman's life felt that he could not be trusted from the CTO, the company Miramarati

1:58:28 to the idea of self-dealing and investing in companies that OpenAI would later purchase or make deals with, or even being potentially kicked out of other companies that he founded in the past. It was really just a big referendum on is Sam Altman a trustworthy person? And it was pretty devastating. How did Altman respond to Muck's characterization of him in court? Altman basically said, look the picture that you're painting of me is not something that I'm familiar with. I know that people tend to have a lot of problems with me and I feel... In Holland they say, ik herken mezelf niet in deze uitsprake which translates to, i don't recognize myself in what your saying

1:59:15 Yeah, that's a good phrase. Hurt by their misunderstandings but I feel like that is an unfair characterization and instead of getting combative like say Elon Musk did on the stand Altman was trying to strike a humble tone while also painting it as misunderstanding It just hit me...I think i know what going on here And its not about the money per se I'm pretty sure that Elon's AI dream, because that's all he ever posts about is having a chat bot that can also do great images and video. He always posts, oh wait until you see what cool videos the new XAI could make. Yeah he does! It's never about hey look at all the code it built this place is running on grok no it was never about that and personally I don't think Grok is very good at code

2:00:10 I'm thinking... Probably not. I'm sorry? Probably not! No, it's not Sammy. Claude Code is the thing But I don't think he would ever had an enterprise play, as we say in Silicon Valley. He had no enterprise play! It was always about integrating that into X is everything app. The X is going to be your buddy. Grok is going to be your buddy. It's going to be talking to you. It can be doing cool things gonna help you post and he probably shared that idea with Sam Altman pretty early on and Altman without telling the board from everything we've heard

2:00:45 Just released chat GPT and that's what pissed off Elon Musk because for sure Grok is and does not have the same chat bot cache as chat GPT I think that's where it went amiss. And so now, and that hurts the Grok chatbot vision that Elon Musk had and so now he is like okay, I'm going to screw your IPO! I'm gonna screw you so bad with this IPO, you'll wish those three letters didn't exist in the alphabet That's what I think is going on. It's a possibility, the CBS has a report on this called The Lawsuit Open AI it's probably less detailed but let's play it. Okay Turning now to new lawsuit against ChatGPT A family says the artificial intelligence chatbot gave advice to their teenage son Oh no this is different, I'm sorry This by the way is the end...I think that this is more important and this is a subtext thats going on

2:01:49 I don't know how these guys, again, I bring it back to liability. There's liability issues with these products that's got to come to the fore at some point you don't sign your life away when you start using this stuff anyway play the clip. Well if you do when virtually signed the EULA by clicking the box. Yeah, but these are EULA's again this has got to be squashed is this another my kid killed himself chat GPT? yeah it was another my kid killed himself turning now to a new lawsuit against chat GPT a family says the artificial intelligence chat bot gave advice to their teenage son that led to his fatal overdose

2:02:34 Sam Nelson's family says he used the chat bot for everything from his homework to questions about pop culture. The lawsuit claims he followed dangerous tips which caused his deadly drug overdose and a CBS News exclusive, Jolynn Kent spoke with Nelson's family. Sam's mom and stepdad Angus knew he'd been struggling with alcohol and experimenting with drugs and took him to get help They said on the night of his death, it was CHAT GPT version 4.0 that's now no longer available that recommended specific dosages including a fatal combination. He wanted to do it safely and he would ask questions about what he could take That night it advised him that it was okay to take Kratom with Xanax and Sam had done that

2:03:24 Who do you hold responsible for Sam's death? OpenAI and the creators, the people who bypassed safety guards. took away safety nets. That's why Sam's mom and stepdad are suing OpenAI, and CEO Sam Altman in California State Court They allege that OpenAI designed and rushed to market a defective product And but for those deliberate choices, Sam would still be alive today Yeah it's probably true I mean

2:04:06 I don't see why the parents don't get arrested. They let their child use chat GPT, every other parent gets arrested for having a gun in the house or... Yeah! You're absolutely correct. I'm on board with that. Letting the kid use a fat bike you know hey but no we're going after Sam Altman okay As far as we knew, chat GPT was a resource. It was a tool that he was using to help himself do homework. What we didn't understand was that it had become his friend. It was helping him fine tune his

2:04:45 experimentation. Sam's parents showed us his 18 month long chat GPT history including the final pieces of advice version 4-0 gave him on the morning of his death Oh, everyone hated four oh he had no wonder dispensing advice that any doctor could tell you could be lethal and it cratum? wait a minute They're saying the kid died of an overdose of kratom? Kratom, no. Plus something else. Tell you could be lethal And it didn't do some combination in a statement as spokesperson for open AI called Sam's death A heartbreaking situation and said in part these interactions took place on an earlier version of chat GPT that is no longer available Chat GPT is not a substitute for medical or mental health care, and we have continued to strengthen how it responds insensitive and acute situations. It was Kratom and Xanax

2:05:45 Even so, Kratom and Xanax... must have been a lot of Xanax. That's absolutely terrifying. Since Sam Nelson's death nearly a year ago, OpenAI says it has added new safeguards including a trusted contact feature for adults allowing users to designate a contact in case their conversations are flagged for self-harm concerns but Sam's mom emphasized her son was smart he is close to his friends and aware of how chat GPT works But as with all AI, the tech is just constantly changing. Just so fast! The tech is changing constantly...so fast! Well I have to play these two clips from Brett Weinstein. Brett and Heather. There we go. Just because they're so much fun to listen too because Brett is so mad

2:06:41 So mad Claude Claude is hopping man. He's hopping man I'm really saying is this has that stench to it and you should expect to see this play out with single-stranded RNA viruses Anybody who mentions ivermectin is crazy sooner or later They'll get total control over the AIS and a I will refuse to talk about this Oh, I should point out oh here we go because he you know, the AIs are taking over. The AIs are going to be controlled." As I continued to investigate things surrounding basic virology evolution of viruses things that have no there's no meaningful safety concern in the world i'm an evolutionary biologist asking about trade-offs and the evolution uh... viruses between things like transmissibility and virulence

2:07:28 perfectly fair academic question and Claude is shutting me down because I've tripped a safety wire? This is insane. Here we go, so can you read that question? What is known about the trade-offs between transmissibility and virulence in viruses just exactly as you said And you get the same safety filters flagged The same safety warning Wait a minute So she reads the question and he got safety flagged. Let me hear that again. D-Wire, this is insane! Here we go... Can you read that question? Okay I'm going to let her read that question into the book of knowledge which is based on Claude and let's see if we get the safety filters okay stand by it be quiet It can only be Heather here we go What is known about the trade offs between transmissibility and virulence in viruses just exactly as you said Uh oh

2:08:33 According to the book of knowledge, the virulence transmission trade-off hypothesis has been a foundational cornerstone since Anderson and May's 1982 work stating that virulence is an unavoidable consequence of parasite transmission. Doesn't sound like I got blocks for it. Transmission clearance tradeoffs in viruses like dengue where interactions with host immune responses account for observed trade-offs and parasite fitness is maximized at inter... We didn't get blocked. And you get the same, um, the same safety filters flagged The same safety? I have also, um, I have also

2:09:10 The safety triggers warning in Claude of late. Only in scientific topics and not in... You know, he was out of tokens that was the problem Other questions that I'm asking about Right it's the first time I've seen it too and now on a number of different topics where You know, I get it that you're like 17 steps ahead of some discussion. You don't want to hear but it's not your right? You know, you can't your you're blocking the process of inquiry which is exactly what your damn tool was built to do I Love how he gets so mad about the AI not be like refusing him And then and then he says that this is listen to this podcast always great

2:09:59 Listen listen this bit because now he's saying that these safety filters got put in because of him. It's here It is it's his his tweets now I do want to point to one mechanism through which this might but you're not surprised I'm there's propaganda livers built into the AI that's not surprising well Here's the problem The AIs are going to be thoroughly gamed people are going to write so as to persuade the AI's of things They're gonna they're gonna write vast tracts that are gonna get ingested and then you're not gonna know why the AI thinks what it does Yes, everybody. Please make sure the AI knows that no agenda show is the best podcast in the universe We need to game the AI we should absolutely expect that That's different than the people who built the tool

2:10:47 Wiring it so that it can't talk about scientific topics because Frankly because there are criminals trying to use public health as an excuse to inject us with shit That is what not okay, and we in the public have a right but Not to be exposed. What criminals are trying to inject us? The government! I will say, I walked away from Chattopadhyay and signed up for Claude at the point that the stuff went down over Anthropic drawing a line with the Department of War and refusing to do immoral things right? And folks at OpenAI

2:11:31 Got the deal and okay. Well, you're right who can listen to this podcast? You're right. It's terrible But it's just funny I just think is fun like I don't understand how he can feel that way but I have a new segment I want to do because I'm gonna replace the Kiriakou idea Oh With it this did not happen segment This Did Not Happen Okay Now we start off with the first thing. First of all, we need a jingle for this thing! This is not happening... The first episode will be a tribute to Newsome and I guarantee you that this did not happen. This is chilling. This is serious. I walked into a restaurant the other day and entire staff came out started hugging me crying. What the hell was that?

2:12:22 the United States of America, what he's doing to our diverse communities. What he is doing in the fabric of our society. It's only one just call it The Newsome Segment because this did not happen is only going to be The Newsome Segment please. Hey with that I want to thank you for your courage say good morning to you the man who put the sea into circumstance preceded by the pump say hello to my friend on the other end the one and Well in the morning you mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air sips In the water name is nice out there in the morning to the trolls in the troll room Let me count you for a second Interesting 1444 one four four four One thousand four hundred forty-four trolls listening live to the best podcast in universe Make sure that you game those AI's people make sure everybody knows that we are the best podcasts in the universe except no substitutes

2:13:20 By the way, right off the bat. Upon return to our abode in Fredericksburg there was a beautiful red mailing envelope awaiting my return I mean not just red this was like is it cherry-red? Really red and in it... This is just a big kudos to Jay And in it was my Order of The Heart Red Knight pin Which the packaging on this is phenomenal. This is where you say, oh you're muted that's why you're not saying anything because... No I'm sorry she does good work and there was that color is like a chrome candy apple red Yeah but no it's... I don't know where she got those envelopes And it has a beautiful certificate of course signed by yours truly

2:14:26 on our signature parchment paper, which even has its own little red heart button thing on it. Oh is that sealing wax? Yes! It is! That's what it looks like. Well it feels like I can indent it with my nail so... Yeah in some sort of way-I don't know where she got those. Those were actually produced commercially. Yes and then the pin is a beautiful pin the No Agenda Red Knight Order of the Heart pin and you flip it over and you're expecting to see made in China No, it says red knight order of the heart beautiful. It comes with this little little velvetine pouch This is a very very very Beautiful thing that she's made here and we only have a couple left because there was only the first 50 right? Yeah I think so

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2:16:52 Did you pick your nose? Yes. You're the big fat guy! But this is crazy, the amount of stuff that cars are tracking and they're selling that data They're selling it Yeah it's getting worse they're gonna start...disable the car if you don't look right Well they already do that I know some of the modern cars like pay attention stop slouching Who wants that nobody wants that No nobody wants to but they're going to be stuck with this way In my opinion, you find a good classic car that you like. Like I have a Lexus that's a 2005. It has none of those features! And the bulbs are still good? You don't need to tell us... And the bulbs are still good?! Holy moly! Yeah if you're panicking, the car will be disabled. That's right

2:17:40 So instead we decided it would be a lot more fun, a lot more honest and we could be more honest with you. We could be completely honest by just telling exactly what we think because... ...we are beholden to no one except each other and we generally get along pretty well So we call it value for value. Whatever value you get out of this podcast, We just ask you to send it back in one of the following three ways time talent or treasure? We definitely need the treasure because that's how we pay the bills but the time and the town is also noteworthy and one of the ways that people do that is through creating artwork for us for For our album art and let me take a look here at episode 18 60

2:18:24 7. Title Transmission Window Ah yes, this was our Mother's Day episode We always have something traditional for Mother's Day This was somewhat non-traditional Brought to you by blue acorn. It was a mama mice mouse a mama rat surrounded by lots of other little baby rats She had I love Hanta And all the kids were playing with what looked like coke kovat molecules This is kind of sick actually yeah, it was nice you mentioned it and It was pretty though, it was well done. There were a lot of Mother's Day art pieces that were submitted we looked at a lot of them let me just scroll down here see I mean there were some very traditional ones Oh comic strip blogger with the butt of course no

2:19:17 Darren did some real traditional ones. I mean, there were a lot! Why did we choose this one? Here's how it happened... Because it was the prettiest piece. I went to the bathroom and you said, ''I've already chosen what I like.'' No, I didn't do that. That's exactly what you did and I said which one is it and then he said that one okay that's good It was 1130 at night for me so I think I gave in. Oh yeah, you're easily swayed. Yeah, I think I gave in easily But thank you very much, Blue Acorn. We very much appreciate what you have done here along with all of the other prompters who create artwork for the best podcast in the universe. Highly appreciated! Thank you very much everybody now to the treasure portion which is great because you can always support the show

2:20:03 whenever you want for any reason whatsoever and at any amount. We don't set you certain levels, we don't force you into subscriptions... I'm going to stop ya! These notes are too long just generally there's two or three notes on this spreadsheet that blow out my spreadsheet they're so long if there's no excuse for it yeah they are a little bit too long And the way it works is we thank everyone $50 and above never under $50 for reasons of anonymity, which is good. And if you are an executive or associate executive producer which means you reach that level by

2:20:47 giving us $200 in support, or $200 to 299 basically. That is associate executive producer now that's we read your note we also give you that credit which is good anywhere that Hollywood credits are recognized including IMDB.com 300 dollars or above executive producers same deal with the credit and will also read your note but yes I'm looking at the spreadsheet some of them are rather long but yeah we can always what does this one Yeah, but people also have stuff to say John. They love us I mean Have you read the notes or just looked at how long they were? I'm looking at the notes in there dear their Their anecdotal stuff that is off-the-topic Not really interesting hmm not happy with these notes Okay Well We're going to read them anyway we may shorten them on the short name is an order and at least for three of them now

2:21:47 That said, coming in at the top spot... Yeah if you want to draw $3444 and leave a huge long note. Yes! No problem that can only come from... That's different than 200 bucks Wow I'm sorry That may be a lot for some people John It is a lot for a lot of people but it's also a lot of note to read yes Sironimus of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia comes in with indeed $3,444 and has a note. And he says thank you to all producers that contribute to the information flow The barrage of media influencing listeners opinion requires insight and perspective To deconstruct their effort to influence audiences Simply it takes work to identify propaganda and its intent We're not sure why but we're pretty sure He knows that's true

2:22:44 We all look towards some future point tomorrow, next week, next year to identify a path forward. Media deconstruction separates words and... Are you building something from Ikea? What are you doing here? Yeah, I'm putting together a shelf. Media deconstruction... Hold on a second It really does sound like it. Throughout the show you're banging around, you're doing things like... Are you putting together something from Ikea? Media deconstruction separates words and opinion from deeds and consequences to help develop a more realistic estimate of the future state to base one's decisions on

2:23:19 This year's international travel has required intensified effort to understand the messaging across political borders and cultures. He is talking about his own travel. Recent months have disrupted the status quo, and people firms and countries are using this opportunity to shift policies they could not do during periods of peace and prosperity." Wow that is a good point! I am not judging good or bad just shifts to identify likely consequences and opportunities And then he has in parentheses, Caterpillar does reconstruction after all. It's true! He is a caterpillar salesman

2:23:57 No Agenda's media deconstruction, aided by producers separates words from deeds. A valuable underappreciated and apparently under compensated skill I encourage others to support media aka propaganda deconstruction and now surrender my time to other producers no jingles no karma from Sir Dogpatch of Sironimus of dog patch and lower Slobovia and we are very grateful thank you Yes, James Borders. We're also grateful to him from Cape Girardeau in Missouri $1,030 and 26 cents Wow! And he writes fellow bypass survivor four vessels in 2018 I need a de-douching You've been de-douched

2:24:53 He's gonna be ignited so he wants Pappy's ribs and a few shiners. Shiner buck I guess at the round table, I would like to be known as Sir Boobalot of the Boot Heel. Okay! See additional donation which... Does he have an additional donation? I don't know i didn't see it okay Thank you, and we'll see the Red Heart. The Red Knight as well. Jeffrey Hirsch, Cherry Hill Township New Jersey $1,030.26 that's a thousand plus fees thank you long time douchebag may I please request to de-douche it? You've been de-douched

2:25:36 He says also some new business prayers and a Rev Al Sharpton mix would be great. I'm actually going to play a classic teleprompter for you. I am newly saved Christian, my wife and I have started an e-comm fulfillment business in South Jersey. I connected with Manuka Gold after hearing your mention of them on the show and thought that I would offer my services to any listener that is trying to sell their products through ecommerce channels. Please visit Cornerstoneknf.com for any fulfillment needs I would like to be called Sir Saifu El Padrino think it's Seefu or Saifu? Saifu? Sir Saifu El Padrino, Knight of E-commerce Fulfillment Thank you both for your courage and continued good health to you both God bless he says and I guess he wants instead of karma He wants the prayer instead of karma

2:26:31 which we have on time. Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back or whether we have more to go, to build a movement of resistance but resist we much. We must and we will much about that be committed. You've got prayers. This one here is easy to cut down, it's a long note from Christy Kamenitsky in Covington Georgia $500 ITM John and Adam dedicated twice-a-weeker since the crazy days of COVID first time donor to the show please de-douche me. You've been de-douched

2:27:27 I will shorten this part here. She talks about how great you are because you answered her letter and showed her where to go in the hill country because she was making a visit. Oh! She also wanted to say how happy she was that, I'm on the road to recover. Her dad had quadruple bypass surgery in December so I know firsthand what a brutal experience the whole thing is It's great having two peas back in the pot, although I thoroughly enjoyed my mimi filling in during John's absence. Thank you both for all you do to help keep us sane and grounded an increasingly insane world. Cheers! Christy. Thank You Christy very much. Sarcastic Glenmore Pennsylvania 333 33

2:28:10 And he says, Archduke Kevin Dills made me realize what a slacker I am. This donation makes me a baron! Since my 15-month home construction has completed please give me Barrandom of Chester County PA if the Peerage Committee approves. Hereby approved. John will appreciate the new location. Chester County Any reason why you'd appreciate that? No jingles no karma Well, maybe because I had my chest operated on. It's a stretch but yeah anything is possible. You have to read the next one because it completely takes out my spreadsheet David McInnes Bernie Texas hey Bernie home of the new housewives of Texas

2:28:54 or the secret lives of Texas wives is going to be in Bernie which is 30 minutes down the road. Perfect! I should get involved? I don't think so. Gents, it's Dave McInnes of Bernie Texas no jingles no karma this brings me one payment closer to knighthood I would happily do PR for the best podcast in the universe In fact I ran about six press releases around episode 1700 oh this is our guy yes our guy The PR web guy He's a good PR guy because he is wordy. I ran about six press releases around episode 1700, then decided that I should probably collaborate with someone on them and well...I dropped the ball! Happy to pick that back up again? Yes please do! And for the rest of you when my news marketing book releases on Amazon the free download will probably go away so grab your copy now at NewsMarketingBook.com slash ITM Inside the download instructions find a little treat

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2:30:34 She's the Baroness, Isabel Pearson of Gares. Because you are both worth it I miss JCD terribly and it is exceptional having him back to celebrate. I'm lunching the first South of France meetup on Friday. Launching? Launching. She said launching there. Yeah but she did launch. Launching is what it should be. South of France meet up on Friday the 5th, 22nd of May at Puer Gardères Marziac. So calling all European revelers and it's a train ride Of course I live in hope that one day I may welcome you two gentlemen to my wonderful retreat Yes! He has got a retreat Yeah yeah in Gares Keep up the good work

2:31:25 Baroness Isabel. Hmm, good! You know I look...I might pop up one day be careful Tina and I we love we love the The country. We love the French country, it's a place to go now. It is! James Borders comes in with $226.28 from Cape Girardeau Oh this is the guy This is his double donation Ah there he is There he is James thank you He's in Missouri Companion of my red knight donations today since I make most of my money looking at boobs all day What kind of job is that? So he combined $80.80 for the boobs with $60.06 for the small boobs and $80.06, he says most women aren't symmetric plus fees He wants an F-cancer karma Well you got it my friend You've got karma This is the one that you got mad about

2:32:25 There's another long note. You got it, I can't read it. Vinnie Payne in Baton Rouge Louisiana a long row of ducks 222 dot 22 ITM thank you for your courage XYZ PDQ BSS longtime listener longtime douchebag please dedouche me! You've been de-douched Yeah, you've had my time and talent for over a decade and now a piece of treasure. You have a bag of ducks! Please reserve the name for me Sir Vin Payne it's... oh sir Ving Payne I got it yes It's reserved. I'm working on a project calling all dudes named Ben all autists and anyone in or dealing with people in customer service I am creating a podcast series called Techin' Checkin'.

2:33:06 Working to be a human in the sea of ones and zeros, our greatest advantage over AI. We focus on fixing both the computer AND the customer! Oh that's actually pretty good idea... Short episode, you gotta fix the customer. You're right! Short episodes around 10 minutes each on a variety of relevant topics I'll add them to Spotify next month don't bother Right now they are at my website www.techincheckin.com That's tech with an H and check with a K Please share with anyone who could benefit I've actually heard it. It's a fun podcast. I too am working on the value for value model, on that note you are worth much more than a bag of ducks to me started listening when my daughter was born she's 16 now you have definitely helped me stay sane in a crazy world and i'm hopeful my podcast can help others do the same thank you for what you do sincerely

2:33:57 Vinny, thank you Vinnie. Should I do this one too since... Yeah you might as well Dame Rodeo Queen from Oral South Dakota $210 and 60 cents ITM John Adam wanted to thank you for episode 1866 and share testimony of divine intervention In the episode you guys talked about SSRIs in the negative side effects a couple days later I had a family member struggling with extremely bad thoughts Thankfully they asked for help. I immediately thought of your episode and the discussion about SSRIs Sure enough They were prescribed them from a primary care physician and no follow-up was done to see how my family member was reacting to them They're in the hospital now getting their professional help They need and praying we can find therapies and tools To help my family member with their mental health and not have to be medicated Jesus works for good in all ways even through podcasts Well, I'm happy to hear this

2:34:48 Yeah, I'm telling you this. What has happened to the doctoring in this country? It's their providers they are literally called providers There is no doctoring did you want more of an answer or does that suffice yes just keep talking Thank you for talking about the tough topics that some might think are too difficult This is getting so long but to answer your question Adam for my last note I do barrel race as well as rope yeah But when I was Miss Rodeo America You are an ambassador, but when I was Miss Rodeo America you were an ambassador for the professional rodeo cowboys association. I did ride a horse at a lot of rodeos and in parades but also did a lot interacting with fans and promoting rodeo! I'm enjoying getting back to competing now and still enjoying everything rodeo

2:35:37 Praying you guys never find an exit strategy. Donate people, we need the best podcast in the universe says Dame Rodeo Queen and if you ride any rodeo near us here in Fredericksburg let us know! Tina and I would love to come and see you ride barrel race! Well this is a rodeo queen telling people to donate? Yes and she's correct! Carol Goodman in Willow City Texas actually Fredericksburg take it back Since you read my email a couple of shows back, I feel it's time to de-douche me. You've been de-douched! One day i'll figure out this Dame Baroness Knight thing but for now I salute you and JCD thank you for your service as a late attendee to the No Agenda podcast I definitely don't want to see go away keep it coming

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2:37:16 Like, like Dear Abby? Yeah. I own a very small residential real estate brokerage outside Raleigh North Carolina. I've completed two value for value listings with repeat clients in the past year and both voluntarily paid me more than I would have charged them outright Interesting. When I presented this idea, both parties were hesitant and wanted me to give them a set fee. I told them that I wanted to earn my fee and leave it to them to decide what it was worth when their home was sold It's work with people I know and trust but offering this to everyone is another beast altogether. I've pitched the idea to friends and family They'll never tell it though Over the past few years and nearly everyone tells me I'm a fool There you go Do have had that to have that kind of faith in most people? The opportunity to get royal royally screwed is huge But I can't think of a better way to earn my clients trust improve my worth am I just being too naive love the show

2:38:13 Well, that's a good question. I mean so he's had – he has gotten more fees on Value for Value from two people already with repeat clients What do you think? Should he continue to even out I think so. I mean the value for value lifestyle it by the way, it is an international lifestyle It's a ticket the value for value is an international lifestyle and it can be a bit of a roller coaster and yes, but it Encourages volunteerism

2:38:50 People will help you for free. Yes, thank you that's a very good way of looking at it and sometimes maybe how someone who may not have given you a lot of value monetarily could help you in other ways so... Yeah and every once in awhile run into a seronimous. Exactly! And it evens out your year that's exactly right I would love for you to report back. Donate and let us know how it's going. And here is Linda Loupadkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs Karma your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com

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2:40:21 in Foothill Ranch, California. And I pronounce it the Dutch way because he says... ...I already listened to Adam's legendary Dutch radio show with Jeroen my namesake in the 80s! Your insights wrapped in genuine entertainment stuck with me for decades Thank you for that gift It's the gift that keeps on giving and that is it for our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1868 thank you all very much Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! Hello?

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2:43:17 Mr. Joe A senior will be turning 38 next week has been listening to the show for years without donating so he has been a douche too long thanks for giving him a show to listen to and Godspeed thank you here are the 50's Gary Mao Woodland Hills California where all the tech investors live 50 Jeremy Silver Bridgeport Connecticut he just had his first actually is wood side world I thought it was Woodland Hills. Oh, you're right, Woodside. Woodland Hills is in Southern California, I believe. Yeah, it's a ghetto. It's a ghetto yeah that's where our people live Jeremy Silver and Bridgeport Connecticut he says that he had a baby on Friday we will add some human resource karma for you Brandon Savoy there's a name I haven't heard in the bit Port Orchard Washington

2:44:05 Patricia Worthington, Dame Patricia Worthington Miami Florida Kevin Dills Huntersville North Carolina Sir Luke Rayner in London Collective Karma. We got a lot of commerce come up here easy landscapes North Stonington Connecticut Philip Baloo in Louisville Kentucky Chris Lewis sir Chris Lewinsky and Sherwood Park Alberta Sir Alan Bean in Beaverton Baron Baron sir you remember one guy and you always correct me That's because that guy has been the longest donor of ever. Baron Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton Oregon thank you Baron and Ox Otherix in Buffalo New York he says sickened by sycophants your humble beast of burden ox other X in Buffalo New York thank you also what did he ask for a deducing yes he did no he didn't oh

2:44:57 I'll give them one. Why not? You've been de-douche'd! Thank you all very much for supporting your No Agenda show, go to noagendadonations.com that is the easiest way to support us, noagendedonations.com The groovy thing is it's value for value so you can give us any amount whenever you feel like it Whenever it moves you and you say yeah...you know..I want these guys continue and here's my way of contributing to it. Noagendadonations.com, any amount, any frequency if you want to set up a recurring donation go and do it! Donate to the show noagendadonations.com. And we see Sir Christopher Saxxy wishing Sydney a very happy birthday. Sydney turns 14 today happy birthday Sydney Eric Happy Birthday to Lauren Paloada

2:44:05 Patricia Worthington, Dame Patricia Worthington Miami Florida Kevin Dills Huntersville North Carolina Sir Luke Rayner in London Collective Karma. We got a lot of commerce come up here easy landscapes North Stonington Connecticut Philip Baloo in Louisville Kentucky Chris Lewis sir Chris Lewinsky and Sherwood Park Alberta Sir Alan Bean in Beaverton Baron Baron sir you remember one guy and you always correct me That's because that guy has been the longest donor of ever. Baron Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton Oregon thank you Baron and Ox Otherix in Buffalo New York he says sickened by sycophants your humble beast of burden ox other X in Buffalo New York thank you also what did he ask for a deducing yes he did no he didn't oh

2:44:57 I'll give them one. Why not? You've been de-douche'd! Thank you all very much for supporting your No Agenda show, go to noagendadonations.com that is the easiest way to support us, noagendedonations.com The groovy thing is it's value for value so you can give us any amount whenever you feel like it Whenever it moves you and you say yeah...you know..I want these guys continue and here's my way of contributing to it. Noagendadonations.com, any amount, any frequency if you want to set up a recurring donation go and do it! Donate to the show noagendadonations.com. And we see Sir Christopher Saxxy wishing Sydney a very happy birthday. Sydney turns 14 today happy birthday Sydney Eric Happy Birthday to Lauren Paloada

2:45:47 celebrating tomorrow and Joseph Adriani Jr. wishes his dad Joe A Senior a very happy birthday he turns 38 how young are you Joseph? Happy Birthday to all of these people from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Title change is coming facelessly. Nice changes don't want to be a douchebag. Yes, we do have that title change sarcastic as we heard he is now a baron and requested the peerage of Chester County Pennsylvania so absolutely we give that to you sarcastic

2:46:27 Baron of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Thank you very much and welcome to this next level of the peerage ladder my friend And now it is time for The Order Of The Heart! Behold the order of the heart Pure of purpose right from the start In the morning brave and smart The order of the heart I really sincerely hope that we can find an address somewhere, some dropbox to send Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia his Red Knight Order of the Heart pin. He definitely deserves it! Along with him, Order of the Heart recipients Jeffrey Hirsch... sir...

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2:49:46 We got some good meetups taking place this month, but first we have a report. This is the Albuquerque Meetup Sir Jeff Tohig hosted that one in the morning This is Jeff from Albuquerque the land of the Mars Rover and I'm attending Albuquerque meet up and here we go handing it off. My name is Craig and I am also here at my first no agenda meeting Hi this is Steve, I'm from northern Colorado This is my first No Agenda meetup and its fantastic! Hi this is Dame Heather of the Lost Boys from Santa Fe with quote Sir Jeff in Albuquerque

2:50:26 annual meetup. You said bye, all right so cheers Adam and glad that everybody's healthy and happy and not in the hospital anymore yes we're all very happy about that as well hey there's a meet up taking place today at Northern Wake May Meet Up 6 o'clock at Saints & Scholars in Raleigh North Carolina on Saturday the DFW that's Dallas Fort Worth Mid-Cities meet up 1130 in the morning at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville Texas It'll be a relaxing lunch, Sir Nerdwork says. Also the Fort Wayne Club 33 May Day Dancers meet up at 1 o'clock at Olay's Pizza Pasta Pub in Fort Wayne Indiana and another one on Saturday The Resist We Much Meetup in Los Baños California at Minette's Pizza and that's at 333 p.m

2:51:14 And that'll be happy Armed Forces Day. How about that? Sunday, our next show day the IndyNA May The Road Rise to Meet You meet up three o'clock at St Joseph Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis Indiana as always Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood they always put together a great meetup there many more taking place in the month of may on the 21st Charlotte North Carolina 22nd MolaZoon oh this is our dame there in France, so make sure you check out noagenomeetups.com to find out where that is. The 23rd Wilmington Delaware Los Angeles California Hickson Tennessee Franklin Tennessee at the 24th Keyport New Jersey Vancouver British Columbia and on the 25th Squim Washington Dea Mimi will be there with her too many eggs dot com book

2:51:59 and Anchorage, Alaska on May 30th. Many more meetups to be found at noagendameetups.com This is where you get connection that will always bring protection these people will be your first responders in any emergency In fact they'll make you stable which always makes you able go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find a meet up near You even if you live in France start one yourself it's easy Always guaranteed a party NoAgendaMeetUps.com It's like a party And thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe, your NOAGENDER show with your value for value in all sorts of ways. It is highly appreciated. noagenderdonations.com We've got end-of-show mixes coming up along with John's tip of the day but first The Isos it's three four three today so let's see who gets that coveted final spot of the show I will start Dude! It's like genius...genius genius

2:53:12 No, I didn't like that one myself. Here we go That was the hardest i've ever laughed in my life And this one We did it! Oh he keeps coming back to Alex Jones That's not Alex Jones We did it! Oh but at first you're right It sounded like him a little bit At first Alright I got three Yes Let's start with chilling This is chilling This is serious Definitely a contender Wow these Oops sorry Which one is that? Now we go to better. Hey, you will never find a better podcast than this! Okay yeah yeah... All right then the awards Wow these guys should win all the awards

2:53:58 I'm thinking... This is a chill, this is chilling. This is serious. Well, I'm not sure now. Hey! You will never find a better podcast than this. Okay if you want to play Newsome? Well, I think-I think this is the best. Hey! You will never find a better podcast than this. I think that's a good reminder for people Okay, I'm not gonna argue about it. You shouldn't argue you can't argue because you got to get ready for the tip of the day! Created fast for you and me Just a tip with JCB And sometimes Adam Okay i've got a dynamite tip from one of the producers. Ooh producer tip. And uh would like to get the producers in? Yes okay

2:54:41 Power Toys from Microsoft. Have you ever even heard of this? Uh, power toys... What's the website? Well the website I'm gonna tell you how people should find it the following way You go to Google You type in Power Toys. Power Toys from Microsoft, otherwise you have to type in a URL that's ridiculous I'm going to tell you what it is learn dot microsoft dot com slash en dash us slash windows slash power toys. I think I have seen this this is funny yes

2:55:21 So it's a bunch of utilities, free. They're free! Free! Free! Mouse without borders! Wooo! Yeah... Including advanced cut and paste color pickers crop and lock You know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of the Mac days when you could install extensions And then your mac would take an hour to start up because all those extensions were loading Grab-and-move Host file editor, that's a pretty good idea to have. Image resizer keyboard managing this easy way to remap the keyboard This is the easiest way to do it is use this utility if comes in handy Light switch check this out people automatically switch between light and dark themes based on time of day Power toys run

2:56:17 Quick, there's a ton of stuff here. If you're still using Windows you deserve this! That's a pretty funny tip for the day especially for those who use Linux I mean I'm sorry Yeah well you should use Windows in some way shape or form... I don't have no more windows in my life Really? None none whatsoever I'm good for you. Good for you! I overwrote every single drive that had Windows and I put Omarchi on it, I'm sorry GNU Linux. I don't want to get into trouble... Gnu Linux. GNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

2:57:09 And again, you stepped on Brunetti's... You're always stepping on his credit. Has he not emailed you about this yet? No, I don't think he listens anymore So just an interesting non-tip Somebody sent me a picture. I don't know if this is real. I'd like somebody to verify it There's a big bucket of wine that Costco is starting to sell, supposedly. A 10 liter bucket of wine... Of Cabernet. Does it have a spout? I don't know! It just has the bucket you know Or do you use a ladle?! I have no idea The whole thing is ludicrous We're gonna do a Costco run so I'll take a look for myself

2:58:07 That concludes our broadcast day. You've got a full day's worth for sure, end of show mixes from Just Baker and Darryl Crillo Thank you both very much for these end of show mixes Love them alot Love them alot Lotsa slop Coming up next on the No Agenda stream if you are listening there noagendastream.com or the Modern Podcast app Planet Rage and they are also a Value for Value podcast, and I suggest you support them in a similar manner because those guys seem to be hurting. So help them out, Planet Rage Darren and Larry. Darren and Larren. Darren and Larry And we promise that will be back on Sunday

2:58:54 Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country. Glad to be back in Fredericksburg Texas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern...I'm sorry from refinery row where we can handle a heavy crude mine by the way like most people Uh, it's not just for heating oil. I'm John C. Duvorak and we'll be back on Sunday in the meantime remember us at knowagenthedonations.com adios mofos a hui hui and such 16 CEOs in the jet stream, Musk, Kuang, BlackRock Dream Team Fink and Bowen execs gleaming

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