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00:00 Your energy is flowing out. No, no! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday April 9th 2026 this is your award winning Gimel Nation Media Assassination episode 1858 This Is No Agenda Got our finger on the trigger! And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6 In The Morning, everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row in northern San Francisco Bay We're all wondering what the heck just happened? I'm John C. DuBois It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. One of these days you'll remember where you are I mean it just doesn't flow refinery what is even Refinery Road? There's a bunch of refineries up here Jay lives amongst the oil muck there's no muck oh, I thought that the refineries all left California There's three of them still four around here still running They're about to leave Well they should because it's no good Hey um... Good news

01:03 Yeah? I fixed our robot. Ooh! Yes, let me just check... Let me see... Robot are you there? Are you ready for the show? 2 3 4 5... Ready to rock?! Well at least she talks fast She talks fast So we can ask the robot for help whenever we want. Well, when we start to do that I have a bunch of AI clips I'd like to play but obviously we have to discuss the 10 news cycles that took place between the last show and this show! It's like, no it's like... We need more shows! Like come on Trump! We should've done an emergency pod! You're so right if there ever was a moment

01:54 I don't think people even ask us for that anymore. They don't even ask us for emergency pods anymore. Okay, they're like because you know it's gonna have those guys not gonna do and then yeah we're not gonna Do an emergency pod you want to do it? One year three by three just yeah Comparing stories from ABC CBS NBC I will say, before you get into your three by three. Has nobody figured out Trump's algo yet? Is it really that hard to understand how he works and what he does? And this was so good... When we saw the Easter Sunday one come in pretty much live

02:50 And then the, you know, the civilization thing. It's like... That was a good one! Did we forget Rocket Man? I've got a button on my desk and it works and come on it's like all right Well the one thing I definitely want to play after this is before all this finally resolved if you want to call that Is Megyn Kelly Oh yeah no we have some crazy people to play but let's get into 3x3 first Yeah, let's start with ABC. Tonight 90 minutes before his deadline President Trump announcing he has agreed to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks He says his decision would depend on Iran agreeing to the complete immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz About an hour later Iran announcing it had agreed The president calling the ceasefire double-sided It comes at the end of a day that began with Trump's dire threat

03:44 whole civilization will die tonight never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will." The president's extraordinary threat that a whole civilization will die tonight condemned in Rome by the first American pope. Attacks on civilian infrastructure is against international law but that is also sign of... Was this the Pope? Was that the Pope talking? It might be. I mean, he's American from Chicago. The division the destruction that human being is capable of some Republicans cheering the president on Senator Kevin Kramer of North Dakota saying if the cruel unelected rulers of Iran are stupid enough to think President Trump is bluffing. I hope they're prepared to meet their maker Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson usually in lockstep with the president but not tonight.

04:38 start blowing up civilian infrastructure. I do not want to see that we are not at war with the Iranian people, you know? We are trying to liberate them." Trump's one-time close ally Tucker Carlson disgusted. On every level it is vile on every level Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene posting 25th Amendment. Not a single bomb has dropped on America we cannot kill an entire civilization this is evil and madness This was fantastic I mean anyone who took this seriously and this, this is Hulk Hogan the Iron Sheik 1984 Madison Square Garden

05:21 It's exactly the same. Exactly, Hulk. Yes! Exactly the same. In fact you want to hear it? I happen to have the clip. Yeah play it! Here we go. World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Champion Hulk Hogan against The Iron Sheik What? That's your surprise to me?! Yes! Well I'll tell you something, you show the match. You go ahead Jack and don't you ever pull no surprise on me again or i'l tighten your tie good for you boy We are gonna up to the ring right now The introductions to our championship vault with a World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Champion That's the shake

06:08 This contest is for the World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship. One fall, one hour time limit! In the ring at this time first, The Manager, Kossi Fred Klassy weighing 258 pounds, The Challenger And they played Eye of the Tiger when Hulk Hogan came out. I met the Iron Sheik! Oh, he must have been a super nice guy? Oh, he's a super nice guy. I have an autographed photo. Is he still alive? Does he still exist as you know him? No, I can't remember... To be honest about it is funny because that only reminded myself that I've met him cause I found the photo the other day and

06:53 And I can't remember for the life of me when this was. Probably about 10 years ago, because he spoke Farsi. He actually because I have a whole bunch of these clips. I was trying to get something with a better quality and he speaks Farsi and then you know the guy goes listen sheik we know you speak English did Trump own the franchise back then? Did he own it? He didn't own that no no never he never did but he understands this mechanism so when i saw him you know, civilization will end. I'm like he already has a deal in the pocket is that he's already got to go is good to go up and this is what our our guy in the region. Yeah why don't we take a break from the three right? We're going to do the rest of them but read our latest note from our guy are boots on the ground guy in the Middle East okay here is

07:45 Multiple versions of the 10 conditions in Iranian media. Nobody has seen the one the US agreed to, both sides claim victory. Iranian propaganda gone next level with AI no kidding Trump with a white flag coming down out of Air Force One military spokesperson doing two-minute Instagram ready videos in English Arabic and Hebrew plus conspiracy theory that the airman rescue was fake actually two failed uranium extraction ops. You know, and he was over the past few days he was saying 90% certain this is WWE. He was saying WWE and then then the minute Trump came out with civilization says 99 percent certain this is total horse crap! He knew it and he's right next door to Iran. He knew it yeah I'm sure that locals all kind of figured it out

08:41 But that doesn't cut it for the American M5M and apparently most of the podcasters. We'll get to that after we play your three by three. Let's move on, okay? That was ABC. These are all pretty much the same report as usual and so let's move NBC. Walk us through the president's truth social post and this apparent sudden pause in fighting Well Tom, that true social post came just minutes ago and just within the past few moments we are now hearing from Iranian state TV which says that the US has accepted Iran's conditions although there are still things they're unclear This is a presence to social posts where he said subject of these Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing

09:23 complete immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. He calls it a double ceasefire." Now the president also saying that there was a 10-point proposal from Iran and he says that its a workable basis on which to negotiate The president claims that all past various points of contention have been agreed to between the US and Iran, but that this two-week period will allow the agreement to be finalized. Now this caps off Tom a day of rapid developments there have been ongoing strikes throughout the Middle East and President Trump had dramatically escalated his threats against Iran posting earlier today on social media A whole civilization will die tonight never to be brought back

10:08 Now ahead of that deadline, Iran's regime today urged people to line up outside power plants. You're seeing video from state TV of some of those people lined up outside the bridges and power plants now in a phone call late today the president told me that the use of human shields would be totally illegal and he added that they're not allowed to do that there was strong pushback from across the world Democrats called at earlier post unhinged even some conservatives were concerned that the president might be going too far. Wow, disappointingly boring from NBC they could have done a lot better just one dude that's all they had? They had no clips, no Nat Pops, nothing! No Nat Pops... Nothing Yeah and then you have your closest thing to Republicans

10:58 Now that supposedly Barry Weiss is running it CBS Tonight the world is watching after President Trump warned this morning a whole civilization will die tonight Never to be brought back again The president says the US has a plan to bomb Iran's bridges and power plants beginning at 8 p.m Eastern if an agreement is not reached end the war which Every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning exploding and never to be used again. I mean complete demolition." The prime minister of Pakistan a mediator for negotiations has asked for two weeks ceasefire and that Trump extend

11:41 end the deadline. On X, he said that diplomatic efforts are progressing steadily strongly and powerfully and caught on Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Vice President J.D. Vance is urging Iran to make a deal Democrats say Trump is on the verge of committing war crimes threatening to eliminate a civilization is comparable to genocide that's illegal Some Republican senators, including Ron Johnson of Wisconsin are also concerned about Trump's threats. I do not want to see start blowing up civilian infrastructure. We are not at war with the Iranian people

12:22 But Tony, those threats are on hold for now because just moments ago President Trump posted on Truth Social that because Iran has agreed to complete a media-insafe opening of the Strait of Hormuz he agrees to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. The president goes on to say that this will be a double sided ceasefire, so with less than two hours left until that 8 p.m. deadline and the president announcing that for now the attacks are on hold and there will be more time to try to sort out a permanent deal. Oh also boring just boring. And what's it? Double sided I don't know is double side tape

13:07 They brought that up on two of these reports and nobody questioned what does it mean double-sided ceasefire? Now a ceasefire would be a cease fire where everybody stops shooting. What's double sided? It just one of those memes that gets out there and then they start using in, they're stupid. So I've been talking to Lex my first boss over the past couple of days He's about to turn 81, I think. Remember when he went to his 80th birthday party last year? It was a lot of fun and his wife Fariba she has her sister and all of her family is in Iran

13:49 And so we've been going back and forth, and he's like wow man yeah of course everyone wants those molas to get kicked out but we don't think it's you know that doesn't seem like it's going the way it should. Fariba has not heard from her family for five weeks! She was really worried I got a email this morning he said Fariba was able to call talk to her sister and all the family is fine, everything in Iran is fine. No damage, plenty to eat, everything is calm in Tehran, everything is closed except for the supermarkets." So that's a little different view than you might get from what you hear about The War

14:33 and civilian infrastructure, and we're killing everybody. I got two little mini super cuts here. Civilization will die tonight.

15:09 civilization will die tonight. All civilization will die tonight. And then right after that, we got this one. The 25th amendment of the 25th amendment The 25th Amendment. The 25th Amendment to the 25th amendment for... The 25th Amendment! The 25th Amendment to the 25th amendment. The 25th Amendment not- The 25th Amendment of- The 25th Amendment on- The 25th Amendment. The 25th Amendment to the 25th amendment so- The 25th Amendmenet it- The 25th Amendment, a 25th Amendment huh? The 25th Amendment now- The 25th Amendment in- The 25th Amendment to be in- The 25th Amendment n- How do we- 25th Amendment is ass. Okay okay

15:52 So that was the most surprising. I'm going to get to your, you're gonna get to your Megan Kelly clip in a minute. Alex Jones went absolutely bonkers! Yep he was going...he's freaking out here it is. How do we 25th Amendment his ass? The problem is they get the 25th amendment harder than impeachment You have to get two-thirds of the house and 2 thirds of the Senate. What are we doing? We aren't part of an impeachment Who said that? That's the dude he has on. Oh, that guy! That thing is that guy. The problem is to get the 25th Amendment it's harder than impeachment you have to get two-thirds of the House and two thirds of the Senate. So what do we do? No, that's not...25th Amendment you need the Vice President

16:33 And the cabinet, yeah. Tackle Trump and let him pretend he's president and publicly report that he is going through a health issue in advance of COVID. These people truly think Trump is nuts! They think he has lost his marbles... He's like this is not sleepy Joe Biden This is not the crazy guy we actually had for four years who was running nothing. Who would have never mentioned the 25th amendment? Ever! It literally needs to be something like that, it's that bad... I've known you a long time and you've never called for an internal coup before. Internal coup yeah. Ever ever ever ever That's how dangerous- You should have called it when Biden was pregnant. That's how risky this is for the whole world. If I were the Democrats

17:19 Stop poking Trump and messing with him. That only makes it worse, like you guys need to watch out! This isn't a guy acting like he's crazy this is real. This is real! What's going to be the takeover in 2026 or 2028 if this hits the fan? If we get into this- He's threatening an extinction level event! Oh my goodness! Like of all people Alex Jones, you should know what this is. And without... it was emergency pod everybody! Emergency pod right away the end of civilization 25th amendment we gotta do it right away I read the documents we got to get him right away We gotta have 25th amendment in his ass It's real, it's real, it's real! Yeah kid that's pretty good

17:57 One more and then I want to hear your Megyn Kelly clip. Meanwhile, Trump's insane threats have become something of a last straw for many in the president's fraying MAGA coalition right-wing influencers like Alex Jones Candace Owens Marjorie Taylor Greene are now calling on Trump's cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment and remove Trump from office And just listen to this familiar sounding edict from MAGA influencer Tucker Carlson. If you work in the White House or in the US military, now is time to say no absolutely not and say directly to the president No! Those people who are in direct contact with the President need to say NO! I'll resign! I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this because this is insane and if given order I'm not carrying it out

18:44 Figure out the codes on the football yourself. Sound familiar? Tucker Carlson is imploring members of the military not to carry out any illegal orders issued by Donald Trump That's essentially, the same advice that several Democratic lawmakers gave to members of the armed services last year It's the advice that prompted Trump to accuse those Democrats of treason Target them for retribution She's not wrong! That is exactly the same thing What is wrong with these people I mean, Tucker Carlson claims to know Trump really well. He's got him on speed dials! Yeah he did. I go to visit him all the time. I talk to him all the time Does he really not know how the president operates? We're two podcasters sitting on our butts for 18 years we gotta figure it out yeah and then there's Megyn Kelly here we go now as you can imagine that post did not go over well with Iranians or with many Americans

19:41 I mean, i don't know about you but i am sick of this shit. I'm just- I'm sick of it! Can he just behave like a normal human? I mean honestly like the president... 3D chess shut up fucking shut up about that shit oh boy Don't threaten to wipe out an entire civilization we're talking about civilians Just casually in a social media post You know, like I am the first to try to understand Trump and his strategy. And not freak out over his weird social media posts and language that is loose and incendiary truly. I've lived with it for 10 plus years. I learned it the hard way when I was on the receiving end of it for nine months. And truly I think that was a gift to me in many ways because it helped me really come to understand what he does with his social media but this

20:40 completely irresponsible and disgusting. This is wrong, it's wrong. He should not be doing it I don't care that his negotiation tactic is to kill an entire country full of civilians men women and children? An American president so that the Strait of Hormuz will be opened? It's just wrong! It's not hard to say it, it's not hard to recognize it I wish he would stop doing this. He can't negotiate without doing this? What does that say about him? What does that say about the position that our country is in right now in these negotiations? He's got to, he's gotta say this? He can't be a dignified strong leader without threatening a bunch of war crimes

21:34 He's like, what is he Genghis Khan? Like what is he trying to do and why can't he do it with strength threats. Sure go for it that don't diminish and demean the United States of America in this way Wow Again, she's always the first one to be targeted by him. She is unhinged with her cussing Well she has been doing that for more than a year now. Talk about somebody who should get their act together Let's stop for a second and mention the Genghis Khan thing which I wrote a little missive in the newsletter A missive?

22:18 It's emissive. Jay is doing the news, I have to put these... What is emissive? Hold on! Let's ask the robot here we go there you go what is the definition of a missive now this should be interesting to find out here we go It's taken too long. Amissive is a written communication or letter comes from Latin, missus meaning to send perfect okay that's useless no it was exactly what it is! It was a letter and was sent yeah people should be... And by the way everyone out there who gets the newsletter with subscribers please try to dig it out of your spam box and whitelist the new mailing address that we're using oh what are we using? It's in a newsletter at

23:04 NANewsletter at nashownotes.com. Oh, okay. NANewsletter at nashownotes.com. All right! You get that whitelisted? Yes. Whitelisted people... So in 12 and around 1215 Genghis Khan was taking over the place and he wanted to do a deal with Persia which is Iran and to create it just do some trading And so he sent some envoys to discuss this and the Persians, thinking it would be a good idea just killed them. I don't know why I'm laughing. Yeah, the Persians kill them and Genghis Khan said well what's wrong with these people? They're trying to do a deal here. Trying to do a deal

23:55 So he sent somebody else one of his higher-ups and they killed him. They just killed him the Persians now known as the Iranians Yes, and so Genghis Khan went and ransacked and wiped out Persia He took his hordes and said, hell with these people. They don't know how to negotiate in good faith." Does that ring a bell? Let's just take care of them and for all practical purposes he destroyed Persia, his hordes 160 years later, kind of his protege Tamerlane came in to try to do a deal with what's left of Persia and they did the same thing to him. So he wiped them out so they're bad negotiators. They are historically bad and they also have a deep cultural understanding that they've been wiped out completely

24:50 in the past and it could happen again. And that's what Trump was tapping into. He was trapping into a cultural fear that goes way back into their history, and they all felt it. Wow! Very good! That is exact...and so it worked And it worked to a point, but they're still going to screw us. They're bad negotiators there. They don't know that they're just incompetent. He's gonna have to figure out the workaround because they're never gonna... It is always gonna be There's something wrong with them. And we have a lot of Persians Americans and we probably have a few listen to the show, and they're great people but there is something wrong with the culture when it comes to doing business with other countries. It's like a best price only different. Somethings amiss! Well I have some thoughts it all depends on

25:45 what you think is, is what you want to get out of the deal. Let me just play a few interim clips here about the ceasefire this is a pooper on the beach. Good evening from the newsroom topping our CNN global war coverage. Oh! CNN Global War Coverage not just any war coverage, CNN Global War Coverage Cease fire under fire a truce the public has yet to see in writing The details of which both sides are disputing right down to whether all the parties have to cease all their firing In response, Iran said it was stopping oil tanker traffic. Right down to whether all the parties have to cease their firing during the ceasefire! That would be kind of the point in a cease-fire. Thank you Anderson. Guys are disputing right down to whether all the parties have to cease all their firing. In response Iran said it was stopping oil tanker traffic through the Strait of Hormuz after allowing two ships through after the cease fire took effect. Oil prices which settled today sharply lower began ticking back up and after hours trading

26:40 issue whether Israel is a full party to the ceasefire, meaning it includes Israeli strikes on Lebanon or just strikes on Iran. Pakistan's Prime Minister who brokered the truce said yes they are so does Iran President Trump says no and Vice President Vance today said this I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. That said, the Israelis as I understand it again. I'm supposed to get a fuller report when I get on the plane have actually offered to be Frankly to check themselves a little bit in Lebanon because they want to make sure that our negotiation is successful That's not because that is part of the ceasefire I think that's the Israelis trying to set up us for success and we'll of course see how that unfolds in next few days

27:39 I disagree with Vice President Vance there. I don't think the Israelis setting us up for success anywhere Netanyahu saying we've got our finger on the trigger Trump should stop just stop and he's like well We want to keep going one do this one do that man? Just stop for a moment. We gotta figure this out We'll see we'll see if they're setting it yeah, who's over the hill? It's just not possible to report who is right here because there's no single written truce for all to see This morning in a social media post the president said quote many of the 15 points have already been agreed to Last night though. He said we received a 10-point proposal from Iran and believe it is Trump likes these ten fifteen twelve nine point deals that's part of his

28:28 Another part of his algo that he's always doing, remember we had him with Ukraine. Only two more left only one more left oh looks like we got five now it this part of the system that he deploys. ...basis on which to negotiate now we do know that the US had earlier sent through Pakistan a 15-point plan for ending the war and that Iran responded with their own 10 What we do not know is how many are part of the ceasefire, or even if any of them are. And there are mixed messages about whether Iran is living up to one of President Trump's central demands of maintaining the ceasefire. In his announcement last night he conditioned ending strikes in Iran to Tehran quote agreeing to the complete immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz this morning. The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said Iran had done that

29:17 What we know is that Iran's going to say a lot of things. A lot of people are gonna say a lot of things, claim a lot of things. What has been agreed to and what has been stated is the street is open So that was this morning By this afternoon though the vice president was suggesting at best the street is not quite open Well we've already seen an increase in traffic today Hopefully we'll see an increase in traffic tomorrow We actually think that we are seeing signs that the streets are starting to reopen Yeah, you know who knows what's open was closed and wasn't ever really close I mean is it mind we don't know. I do have thoughts about this after we go to our European and UK partners who all of a sudden are like oh yeah well you know this is where in the word we got a ceasefire and we've got negotiations going on here Starmer Who wouldn't do anything?

30:08 couldn't do anything. I think the British Navy is, you know... They wanted to sail but they were out of coal so they decided not to come and then here he is now because he was in the region conveniently. Oh yes we've done this! We've got this happening Well, we've just reached this ceasefire. We? Who's this we?! Has he got a mouse in his pocket? Welcome and I think there'll be a sense of real relief certainly across the region and for the United Kingdom but there is work to do and i'm here in Saudi Arabia and neighbouring countries now to carry out that work in support what were all seeking which is that this cease fire should not be temporary

30:52 but a permanent ceasefire. On top of that, we have to acknowledge that this war was now war and my job is to protect the UK it's already had an impact on the UK and is very important we get the Strait of Hormuz open there's a lot work to do there We've been convening in number of countries I now get the opportunity here in Saudi Arabia and countries nearby region to have the discussions, to coordinate our actions and go forward collectively in pursuit of those two missions. Get outta here you limey! You didn't do anything! He's jumping in! Oh we... They wouldn't even let us use their base or own bases as a stopover point for any attack

31:34 So what do you do next? Well, we've got a real problem. Trump is clearly making noise about NATO so bring in Rütte. Rütte comes in he's gotta sit with the president it pains me Mr President to think you don't think we have your back and I love Mark Rutte he's fun to make fun of He went on Tapper show to try and let everybody know everything's okay. We're good, NATO is fine don't worry about it the president may be a little disappointed but we fix it okay?

32:16 not been hiding his frustrations with NATO countries. How was the meeting? Did he say he's withdrawing? Well, let me be absolutely clear He is clearly disappointed and with many NATO allies Yes we say pissed off is what they say I can see his point yes but at the same time I was also able to point it out that A large majority of European nations has been helpful with basing, with logistics, with overflights. No the large majority has not been helpful! What? No this is not true. This is not for Spain, this is not for the UK's, this is not right. With making sure that they lift up to their commitments and there is also widespread support for the fact

33:00 that degrading the nuclear and the ballistic missile capacity from Iran was really crucial. Yes, crucial! And that only the US was able at this point to do that. Hey and let's not forget there is Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister who is bringing together now a coalition of over 30 countries What? Now Keir Starmer is the hero?! Over 40 But 34 participated yesterday in a planning meeting with military leaders to make sure that free sea lanes, being able to use the Strait of Hormuz going forward will be possible. So I also pointed him to the positive but clearly this was very frank and very open discussion but also discussion between two good friends. Good friends? I don't think so!

33:50 I have a couple of clips from NPR that discuss this. Okay. These are NPR... Quit NATO! Quit NATO. Got it! The head of NATO visits the White House today, well-timed visit for Mark Rutte. The president has lashed out at NATO allies for their reluctance or refusal to support the war. Terry Schultz reports that Rutte has become accustomed to navigating... Can no one get this right? You don't have to roll the r but it's Ruhtuh. No, it's Ruhtuh I would roll the r. Do I pronounce it correctly?

34:28 Um, a little... no. Uh, just like this. Rr-tuh. Rrr-tah? No don't go the eh at the end just rr-tuh. Rr-tuh? Yeah! There you go, your Dutch. The Trump administration the last time NATO chief Mark Rutte had this much riding on a meeting with Donald Trump the president had insisted he was going to take over the Danish island of Greenland possibly by military force Denmark was up in arms literally sending troops to Greenland to fight back against US forces if necessary Then in a private meeting Rutte convinced Trump He should talk things out with Denmark instead of invading

35:05 Now, Rutte's task is to convince Trump... We never were going to invade. No but this is NPR man! This is a bull crap report It's your report! ...shouldn't quit NATO as he's repeatedly threatened over European disapproval of his war on Iran. It certainly very very dangerous moments for NATO Martin Kensei with the German Marshall Fund think tank expects Rutte to continue his practice of extreme flattery of Trump and to try to keep the focus on wins for the president, such as forcing the other NATO governments to dramatically increase defense spending. Rutter is committed to make sure that the U.S does not effectively retreat from European security and I believe that he will continue to say whatever he thinks is necessary to convince Donald Trump that it is not in the US interests

35:54 to go further in criticizing NATO or even weakening the credibility of Article 5. Oh really? I think it's just fine! We did, you know... to be fair about it, the president never invoked Article 5. Is there a process? There must be a process where you have to invoke Article 5. Yeah no he just bitched! Good enough for me. He just bitches and went, nah that's not our war it's your thing you go do whatever... And then the minute there is a ceasefire—a double-sided ceasefire

36:30 Then like, hey yeah it's great. Hey we're all in! We're in yeah. Let's play part two. Article 5 the All for One one-for-all pledge of solidarity and collective defense is one of the aspects of NATO membership that Trump takes issue with most often and it's the one that Linus Kojela director of the geopolitics and security studies center in Vilnius Lithuania worries about the most. to see the US withdrawing from NATO. Formally or informally, that would be detrimental to the security of especially the Eastern Flying Countries. We are vulnerable." Koyela even suggests opponents of Trump's war on Iran should perhaps tone down the dispute in favor of the end goal – keeping NATO together.

37:17 European NATO members will be watching Rutte closely, hoping he can keep Article 5 credibility intact and prevent discussion of Article 13 of NATO's founding treaty. That is the one laying out the path for how a country can leave the alliance. Oh! Article 13? I like article 13 that sounds fun Back to Ritcher for one more clip because he's really hat in hand on this. So you talked about the statement of NATO allied countries, about the Strait of Hormuz, about trying to figure out a way forward here is the White House press secretary Caroline Leavitt when asked about the joint statement from the NATO governments about the Strait of Hormuz Here's what she had to say I have a direct quote from the president of United States on NATO and i will share it with all of you they were tested and they failed

38:06 Do you agree that NATO countries, some of them were tested and failed? Some of them yes. But the large majority of European countries have done what they promised before in a case like this because they know that when it comes to NATO is there to protect United States because the US needs a secure Atlantic and a secure Arctic and a secure Europe to stay safe here in the US mainland. But it is also there, er, to make sure that of course Europe is safe and to be this platform for power projection for the United States so what the US did with Iran they could do because so many European countries lived up those commitments not all of them

38:48 And I totally understand his disappointment about that, but it is therefore a nuanced picture. It is not just saying this black or white. How many NATO-allied countries – a lot or little? Thought that the war President Trump and Israel waged against Iran was illegal, was an illegal war. Do you think that's a prevalent view? No, no because NATO has always taken the position that degrading these capabilities of nuclear and ballistic missiles is crucial. And Iran can never get its hands on those two capabilities there is widespread support for that point of view Okay so fine

39:29 Now, what if this is a little deeper or more complex than we're just bombing people for their nuclear stuff? And I've been trying to figure out this board of peace that the president put together. You need a billion dollars to become a member, it's a whole bunch of real estate people really. It's you know everyone who likes building stuff is in there excluding Tony Blair but i'm sure he's in for the grad, I think it's called grad, it's the Gaza Reconstruction and Development Fund, which is believe it or not managed by the World Bank. So he's probably managing that connection

40:13 And this seems to be a modern version of rubbilization. So Gaza was rubbilized, the builder guys come in and we say you know we're gonna stop this, we're going to fix it all. Witkoff and Kushner builders not government employees they are special envoys they get to do whatever they want They set it all up, okay we're gonna fix it for everybody. Reconstruction now... We helped stop the war and now you got your rubble eyes and now we're going to help build it. And according to The Times of Israel the monetary system that will work within Gaza is stablecoin not just stable coin geofenced stablecoin so you can only use it in Gaza

41:02 This is very interesting. Where did you get this one? Times of Israel! Wow... Yeah, and I've been paying attention to this so I was listening to Chris Fisher he does This Week in Bitcoin but just kind like macro stuff And if you think about Trump always saying, we should have taken their oil. We should've taken their oil. Well this... You can take their oil or you can do really the important thing is make sure that the oil is continuously traded in dollars. This keeps our petrodollar system around and this was one of the big problems with Iran they were trading with China and Yuan and who knows what other wampum they were using I think we've gone from 75%

41:50 world currency to like 57% which is quite a drop you're getting near half and that would be a real problem for the US. And for Trump he said it many times, and Chris had this little clip about the Iraqi oil and how that was set up after that debacle about the dollar system. But more than two decades after its invasion, it retains influence over Iraq's most important source of income. This has real-world consequences for Iraqi politics and the economy – and on how Baghdad balances domestic interests with US expectations

42:41 After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the US imposed a new financial structure on energy revenue mandating that proceeds from oil and gas sales be paid into the Development Fund for Iraq or DFI. The fund was based at the New York Federal Reserve Bank so Iraqi oil revenue remained outside Iraq The DFI eventually became an account of the Central Bank of Iraq. Legally, this money belongs to Iraq but operationally it continues to pass through American financial and regulatory systems." Ah yes ensuring the flow of the dollar system I think Chris is right here this is exactly the way it was And I'm just- This is just a thesis so I could be wrong But I have some more clips that back it up I think that idea here

43:24 is we want everybody trading in US dollars. You'll use stablecoin, we know that just from boots on the ground Iran was using stablecoin during the entire inflationary period they had when their money was just being devalued or printed like crazy and this is the new development fund The new development fund is you're going to use the dollar but it's going to be the dollar controlled by the treasury By our gay general patent because it's backed by US treasuries and you're still using US dollars. Here is Besant, I think this was in the Senate Banking Committee months ago explaining how he financially engineered the beginning of this entire problem. I'd never heard this clip before. Speaking of something else we walked away from in the Biden administration was actually being tough on Iran when it came to sanctions

44:21 I appreciate the maximum pressure strategy that President Trump has gone back to. I'd like to ask you, what more can we be doing as we see us place pressure on the Ayatollah who is no friend of the United States of America and as we see what he is doing to the citizens of his own country in the streets? What more can we be doing to make sure that we are placing the pressure? That we need to on the greatest state sponsor of terrorism and that is the ayatollah And I ran well what we could do at Treasury and what we have do is Have done it has created a dollar shortage in the country at a speech at the Economic Club of New York In March, I outlined this strategy. It came to a swift end

45:05 I would say grand culmination in December when one of the largest banks in Iran went under. There was a run on the bank, the central bank had to print money The Iranian currency went into free fall inflation exploded and hence We have seen the Iranian people out on the street. We will continue monitoring all the partners All the Iranian partners The good news senator is that we have seen and we can see it with our fence We have seen the Iranian leadership wiring money out of the country like crazy. So, the rats are leaving the ship and that is a good sign that they know the end may be near." Do not underestimate the agabescent!

45:51 And it's very possible that Trump has been negotiating with people who aren't even in Iran. If they wired all their money out, I was like holy crap! Besant is a force to be reckoned with so now about the straits? How did it actually close? They didn't blow up a ship and it sank, no you can get past right make threats are gonna fire missiles or mine. Oh No, no that wasn't what closed the strip that wasn't what closed it What did This is what closed it. On March 1st, 2026 the day after US and Israeli forces launched coordinated strikes on Iran Something happened that received almost no coverage in the first 24 hours of the conflict seven insurance companies filed paperwork Oh, you know I guess no that That's obspetious

46:42 Well, let me finish the clip before you counter it. Seven insurance companies filed paperwork not missiles not mines Not military blockades and that was covered by the way he says it wasn't it was covered extensively when it happened It's only 14 seconds John what? Insurance deal yeah okay play it from the beginning I will stop I will not interrupt seven insurance On March 1, 2026—the day after U.S and Israeli forces launched coordinated strikes on Iran—something happened that received almost no coverage in the first 24 hours of the conflict. Seven insurance companies filed paperwork — not missiles, not mines, not military blockades…paperwork!

47:28 The Strait of Hormuz has effectively been closed, not by Iran but by shipping itself. Iran did not need to mine the waterway It did not need to physically blockade the 21-mile passage it Did not need to sink a single vessel to halt one fifth of the world's energy supply." Now whatever you're going to say all I know is that the oil baron was immediately telling me and we talked about it he said the insurance went from something like two million dollars a ship to $150 million a ship and no one is going to go. So there may have been all kinds of other threats, but that's really why no one was gonna go they weren't gonna risk it. Right yeah well you don't have insurance or...you know although I think there's some sort of

48:14 lawsuit waiting to happen. You can't, out of the blue for no good reason jack up someone's insurance rates for that part they've already paid for. Who are you going to sue? Lloyds of London? Well... So just to remind us this is what President Trump did. On March 11th, the DFC announced Chubb as the lead underwriter for its maritime insurance plan. DFC chief Ben Black stated the reinsurance plan would get oil gasoline LNG jet fuel and fertilizer through the Strait of Hormuz and flowing again The program would ensure losses up to approximately 20 billion dollars on a rolling basis Oil prices So that so that plan is out there

48:52 Now, this morning. I think it was this morning General Petraeus pops up Oh that guy On Pooper's show And he says something very interesting General Petraeus you famously and rhetorically said to a journalist tell me how this ends about the Iraq war back in 2003 Do you think this ceasefire tenuous as it seems to be is likely to bring the Iran War to an end in the next two weeks? Very uncertain Anderson in fact I think the real question that is begged right now is whether when it's is finally ended Iran clearly will be weaker militarily

49:31 But could they actually end up in a stronger position strategically? And the situation with the Strait of Hormuz suggests that that is possible. They can use that leverage not only to get America to seek this temporary ceasefire, which I suspect will be extended for a period of time—the negotiations can't conclude with the parties as far apart as they are. You know, compare the 15-point plan we put forward and the 10 point plan put forward by Iran and there are numerous items on the Iranian plan that there's just no way we can accept removal of all US forces right to enrich right to control the Strait of Hormuz and apparently they're even going to charge in cryptocurrency uh...to navigate this strait I mean they want to turn this into their Panama Canal Yes!

50:22 Now, when he says cryptocurrency that's because he is a doofus. And I don't think it is Bitcoin. I wish it was. No, stablecoin. Exactly! Just to remind you from the last show we had this... Iran has developed a plan to charge a toll to oil tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz of approximately one US dollar per barrel with payments to be made in Chinese Yuan or stablecoins So just to wrap this up We've got The Board Of Peace We've got war, semi-rebellization. We're going to help you all we're gonna work it out for ya You're gonna do your stable coin Who are the biggest stable coin people in the business? The bombshell report in The Wall Street Journal describing an unparalleled deal with a foreign leader directly benefiting the president and his children To the tune of tens of millions of dollars

51:10 I, Donald John Trump. Just days before Trump's second inauguration the journal reports 49% nearly half of the Trump family crypto company World Liberty Financial was purchased for 500 million dollars by Sheikh Tanun bin Zayed Al Mayan who heads the United Arab Emirates State Investment Fund and serves as national security advisor sometimes referred to as The Spy Sheikh The deal confirmed in a statement from World Liberty Financial to ABC News and unlike any business transaction connected to a sitting president before, sparking a firestorm of conflict-of-interest concerns. The Journal reporting the Trump family earned an upfront payment of an estimated $187 million in the deal with another 31 million reportedly going to the family of Trump's Middle East envoy Steve Whitkoff also involved in the crypto company

51:58 Months later the Trump administration approved something the sheikh and others in the UAE long coveted. The sale of hundreds, thousands of cutting-edge American artificial intelligence chips to that country a move the previous administration blocked where this state-of-the-art technology could be sold or smuggled to China. Every chip so the way I see it The Trump brothers set up USD1, which is their stable coin. They sold out already because we'll take that half a billion dollars That's fine maybe they have something on the back end Wittkoff is in the deal obviously Kushner's in the deal somewhere I guarantee you they will be spotless and clean as a whistle cause Trump is not stupid so there'll be...I'm sure they've figured that all out Who was the other guy in this stablecoin business? Luttnick

52:47 Cantor Fitzgerald is the biggest clearinghouse for USDT tether. This is what this Board of Peace is going to do and no one has any real information on this thing, but I think that's the play here and maybe when Europe gets their act together Trump will do it for Ukraine And then what is there left to do? Then we got midterms and he can go sit around and get 25th Amendmented and impeached. Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely! So that's what I think is happening here

53:26 That's reasonable. Thank Wow a reasonable from you is I'll take it as good as any as Megyn Kelly's Interpretation of reality little better than Megyn Kelly come on give me a break, I didn't drop one f-bomb Yes Congratulations All right anything else we get what else we got from this so let's see well from this I don't have much left on this may have one clip Well, let's do the Lebanon update so we can catch up with that bullcrap. Meanwhile Israel says it is observing the truce with Iran but says it does not apply to Hezbollah militants in Lebanon. Israel's military said today it carried out air strikes on more than 100 targets in Lebanon in about 10 minutes

54:11 And Pierce Lauren Freyer is in Beirut. Lebanon's health minister says hundreds are dead and injured, the Red Cross says a hundred ambulances are out in Beirut alone trying to rescue people hospitals are asking for blood donations Israel issued fresh evacuation orders for areas in Beirut southern suburbs this morning but not for areas inside Central Beirut where I am a posh area along the roots Corniche waterfront was struck which is not been a target before that blast hit near the residence of the Speaker of Lebanon's Parliament. There's a posh area still in Lebanon

54:48 Yeah, I'm sure there is. I thought the whole place was in ruins for years this has been horrible. Well no. No? Hmm. I thought it was bad. They had an overview shot on one of the networks quite built up. Hmm well yeah well you know i'm still hoping that Trump can get really mad at Israel to stop all the BB Netanyahu made him do it nonsense Yes, I wish something would come of that shortly. Well, I think the Lebanon thing will be it and he's going to tell them to stop it. You know? It was already like well... there was a misunderstanding, miscommunication but Netanyahu is…I think I have a clip of him maybe not.. I thought I had a clip of him saying you know we got our finger on the trigger! We're good to go over here. Where is it where is it where is it

55:47 Oh, here it is. Yeah this is it. And Israel is stronger than ever This is the bottom line of this campaign up until now Let me say there are still additional objectives for us to achieve and we will achieve them either by agreement or by resumption of the fighting We and we are ready to resume the fighting At any moment our finger is on the trigger As you know Two weeks ceasefire has been announced between the u.s And iran no we were not surprised in the last moment and i want to emphasize This is a step In order to achieve all of the objectives There you go all the objectives well, I got one last clip then uh

56:38 That guy's nuts. Yes, yes he is and he's gonna overstep his boundaries one of these days. It's about time! Yeah we're tired of this guy. The ceasefire detail is bogus This could have been part of the 3x3 This is NBC trying to stir things up. Do we know yet if the ceasefire has already begun? Tom, we just received confirmation that the US military has ordered all offensive operations in Iran to cease effective immediately. That according to two U.S officials now this as President Trump has announced and posted on social media that the cease fire is still subject to Iran agreeing to a complete

55:47 Oh, here it is. Yeah this is it. And Israel is stronger than ever This is the bottom line of this campaign up until now Let me say there are still additional objectives for us to achieve and we will achieve them either by agreement or by resumption of the fighting We and we are ready to resume the fighting At any moment our finger is on the trigger As you know Two weeks ceasefire has been announced between the u.s And iran no we were not surprised in the last moment and i want to emphasize This is a step In order to achieve all of the objectives There you go all the objectives well, I got one last clip then uh

56:38 That guy's nuts. Yes, yes he is and he's gonna overstep his boundaries one of these days. It's about time! Yeah we're tired of this guy. The ceasefire detail is bogus This could have been part of the 3x3 This is NBC trying to stir things up. Do we know yet if the ceasefire has already begun? Tom, we just received confirmation that the US military has ordered all offensive operations in Iran to cease effective immediately. That according to two U.S officials now this as President Trump has announced and posted on social media that the cease fire is still subject to Iran agreeing to a complete

57:16 an immediate opening of the Strait of Hormuz. But Iran put out a statement that they see the agreement as including the controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz, coordinated with Iranian armed forces and granting Iran a unique economic position. Remember in the past few weeks, Iran has charged tolls to ships who are looking for safe passage through that critical waterway in the strait so it's not clear if Iran intends to continue that practice President Trump also saying the US has met or exceeded their military objectives in Iran. And while the U.S. has conducted strikes on more than 13,000 targets in Iran during this five-week war, Iran has proven they can still target allies in the region every single day including striking civilian infrastructure and military targets right now roughly half of Iran ballistic missile launchers are still intact

58:05 thousands of one-way attack drones remain in its arsenal, according to a U.S. official and a person briefed on the matter. And in fact multiple Iranian missile stockpiles buried deep underground are still intact. And Iran was able to shoot down a US F15 fighter jet last week and inflict damage on multiple other US military aircraft during the search and rescue operations. In the case of the F-15, they used a heat seeking shoulder fire missile proving that one person with a relatively simple weapon can wreak havoc on the U.S. military there for days also proving Iran's military has been damaged but they are not destroyed these people they would just like to have American soldiers be killed so they can say Trump is an idiot yeah that's all that their angling for

58:51 It's disturbing. Yeah, a little bit. A little disturbing. So I you know in March when you were sleeping Sleeping Beauty...I think it literally I think you literally were sleeping when this Dolores Huerta thing came down? yeah and Mimi brought it up when she was doing the show and I was trying to figure out what is this about Now, do you have any ideas on... No. Why don't you tell me what you think? Well I think this might have been four possibly five ops running at the same time and they all seem... Seems unlikely! Well it all comes down to one date March 18th when a whole bunch of things happen at the same time and i'm pretty sure Stephen Miller had a hand in this because the... Yeah but

59:53 Interesting you mentioned his name. There's a guy who is laying low. He is creepy? Now that you mention it, he's on all night everything. Tucker, not with Tucker I'm sorry, he's on all the Fox shows. He hasn't been on since this thing began! I think he's too busy. He has got a war room with red yarn and he's connecting things And I'm pretty sure that he's the one that coordinated the pop of this story, because it was The New York Times who wrote the big story about these rape allegations.

1:00:30 And this story's been around for decades. It's not like no one knew about it, it just was something that really wasn't discussed and then all of a sudden this pops to the forefront. Just a reminder here is ABC News. Now speaking with us in an ABC News Network exclusive, Torres Huerta says as an adult she was sexually assaulted by Chavez. It's devastating! It pains me to have to ask you this but did Cesar Chavez rape you? One could, how shall I put it? You can name it what you, name it whatever. But I think when you are forced into a situation of unwanted sex or whatever that I think you could, you know... In other words no? Yeah, I'm with you on that now. Now if someone says I was raped alright then and you got to believe all women

1:01:29 But she's like, well if you'd call it... So she had two kids by Chavez. Yeah and two by his brother. And now she's 95 and all of a sudden she comes out of the woodwork this story comes out and here's another little snippet from that ABC interview You didn't tell anyone? No! Why not? You know, I've spent my entire life organizing for farm workers. Okay? I didn't want to do anything and I knew Cesar was probably the only person that I had ever met that could really do the job to organize workers So the damage of speaking up would be too...too much It would hurt the movement Oh absolutely! Can you imagine?!

1:02:11 I mean, the movement was built by hundreds of volunteers that came in. And even convincing the farm workers themselves that they had the power to build their own organization was very very hard." So she's talking about The Movement? Well The Movement was United Farm Workers... Right. ...The Union So all this deplatforming takes place, people are painting over murals renaming roads. They've gone nuts! Here's Newsom California Governor Gavin Newsom weighing in saying the farm workers movement and a labor movement are much bigger than one man his wife Jennifer Siebel Newsome and I stand with the courageous women like Dolores Huerta who have stepped forward after decades of concealing pain and abuse

1:02:58 We are for justice, we're for truth. We are for transparency and we will have the backs of these survivors California governor said. Survivors! So first I thought Okay, this is like for the midterm some Democrat thing somehow there's something to try and cover up And but then Abbott comes out again a live look at the Phoenix area as we're also hearing from Texas governor Greg Abbott as well saying the state of Texas will not observe the Cesar Chavez Day holiday I am directing all Texas State Agency heads to comply in the upcoming legislative session. I will work with Texas lawmakers to remove Caesar Chavez day from state law altogether

1:03:38 Reports of the horrific and widely acknowledged sexual assault allegations against- Widely acknowledged? What's that? So widely acknowledged? Well, at this point it's in the New York Times. Everybody is talking about it so there was a reason. Widely talked about then okay. Yeah Reports of the horrific and widely acknowledged sexual assault allegations against Chavez rightfully dismantle the myth of this progressive hero and undermine the narrative that elevated Chavez as a figure worthy of official state celebration So, it's no longer... It's Farmers Day I think. Or Farmer Workers' Day. We've changed it! Well there is a reason for this. One more of these. This is the mayor of Los Angeles Karen Bass

1:04:25 This is a difficult day. The last 48 hours have been very painful, very difficult. Sister Chavez I had the honor of meeting once and I thought it was the opportunity of a lifetime when I think about the leadership and what I heard the painful news from a sister that I admire so much, Dolores Huerta my heart broke for what she went through The fight of the farm workers, their struggle and their victories inspired all of us. Now the city of LA is joining United Farm Workers and this Cesar Chavez Foundation in deciding not to celebrate Cesar Chavez Day March 31st So now...now the monkey comes out on its sleeve it's about the UFW, the United Farm Workers okay

1:05:19 On the same day, we have the... The monkey comes out of the sleeve? That's a Dutchism. I don't know why they say it! The monkey comes out of the sleeve. It looks like a big reveal so there is the UFW that's about UFW this is the same week exactly around March 18th Kristi Noem gets dismissed Kristi Noem has to go because we've got to make a pivot. away from the horrible raids and the killing, and just bad bad bad. And you remember Trump went yeah we should pull back on that, let's pull back a little bit... Remember? No I don't. Pull back on what? You were in the hospital! I was out of it. I'm sorry. I was trying to kill me. You're on your deathbed. Mimi was taken over.

1:06:18 Yeah, Trump went yeah we should pull back and we're gonna ease up on Minneapolis. And then all of a sudden... Oh right! I remember that part. This is all the same time frame and then we get the new guy Mullen And here's part of his confirmation hearing. After DHS officers shot and killed two American citizens this past January, you joined top administrative officials in publicly blaming and disparaging the victims Following the killing of Renee Good, Secretary Nome called her a domestic terrorist You sir, you called Alex Pretty quote A deranged individual that came in to cause max damage

1:06:59 Could we expect those kinds of quick responses if you are confirmed as secretary? Would you be basically, well you did. You responded to Secretary Noma. We're going to just expect that same behavior all over again? No Senator I have a deep amount of respect for you. We've had our differences but i do respect you I think i said this privately when we had a conversation. I love how these they've already discussed this behind closed doors and then all right here's what I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna tell you my so what and he said look I already told you I'm sorry I didn't mean to say that until I asked it again in front of the cameras but I do respect you um...I think I said this privately when we had a conversation those words probably should have been retracted uh... I shouldn't set out in sector I wouldn't investigation is ongoing

1:07:45 And there is, like I said they're sometimes going to make a mistake and I'll own it. That one...I went out there too fast. I was responding immediately without the facts that's my fault that won't happen as secretary So you regret that statement? I already said yes sir Would you want to apologize to the family of Alex Pretty? Well since I just said I regret those statements Is that same as an apology I haven't seen the investigation. We'll let the investigation go through and if i'm proven wrong then I will absolutely go." Ah, good answer! Good answer so Mullen... That was not bad, not bad Okay so now comes a critical little thing that Mullen slips in here when Blumenthal's interviewing him for the job The result of a memo last May from the acting director Todd Lyons And it's behind me now That instructed ICE agents to break into homes

1:08:37 I understand that during your staff interview last week you said that there would be no more such break-ins to people's homes without a judicial warrant. If confirmed, will you commit me and the chair and ranking member of this committee and the American people that ICE will no longer instruct agents to break into peoples' homes without a judicial warrant? You're using the word break into people's houses very loosely. However, I have made it very clear to the staff and I think when you and I spoke that a judicial warrants will be used to go into houses in a place of businesses unless we're pursuing someone that enters in that place. Um...I have not mixed words with that and I haven't changed my opinion about this. Very tricky here he says place of business what's a place of business?

1:09:32 Farms are a place of business. Here is our Agriculture Secretary Rollins being asked about ice raids on farms. I support your answer, dangerous people shouldn't be here and if they're here they should be gone period but when we're talking massive deportation were gone beyond dangerous criminals And I just wonder if we ought to give fair warning to farmers and ranchers across America that if you have immigrant labor, you can expect federal agents come and search your property. Is that in the future for farmers and ranchers under the mass deportation plan? Sir, I have not been involved in that. The president's current plan...I cannot answer that one way or another." Yeah she knows exactly what is going on but this is the point raids on farms

1:10:21 So, what do we do with all these workers who are working on farms illegally in California and Texas? That's why Abbott is all for this gambit as well. Do we just legalize them? Is that something we can do? Senator Grassley Mr. Sequeira I want to briefly discuss policy issues and implications surrounding undocumented immigration and amnesty First does providing a mass legalization program for undocumented immigrant farm workers actually address the problems of shortages in the agricultural labor and Does such a program do anything to break the cycle of? agricultural dependence on Undocumented labor all right go to the mic please press the button and talk I

1:11:12 I'm sorry. Thank you, Senator. I think the easy answer to your question is no the data shows us that providing legalization and there may be perfectly valid policy reasons to do so but The data shows that does not solve the workforce labor shortage All of those workers or nearly all of them who would receive legal status are already employed Providing them legal status again may have some benefits But it doesn't create any more workers to fill any of the openings. So that won't work at some point they even brought up the idea well those Medicaid people, they can go and pick some berries and stuff now we know that won't work no this is about the revamping of the H-2A visa program

1:11:59 And this is why we had to go through this whole Cesar Chavez deplatforming, because there's a lawsuit. But first, this is Trump getting ready announcing the change, the pivot... The Trump administration rolling out a new program to fast-track H2A visas for migrants which is aimed at helping farmers and business owners fill temporary jobs with legal workers And our very own Edward Lawrence has the exclusive scoop. Edward? Yeah, David Nadegan now the H-2A visa program is going to be consolidated now under the Labor Department and this Office of Immigration Policy has now stood up, up and running it's meant to streamline the process so employers will know and have the seasonal help that they need

1:12:48 What does this program do and how could it help farmers, ranchers and hotel operators? Well the program is already in play. It's not an amnesty program and a new program. Oh yeah! The 2HA is for tourism too. people cleaning the rooms, running the hotels. Trump has a few. What is this program doing? How could it help farmers ranchers and hotel operators? Well the program is already in play It's not an amnesty program And it's not even a new program. It's just gonna be better faster and more affordable. Oh it's a new version of the Braceros. Stand by! Probably the second thing that it does... Is better than that

1:13:28 is kind of bringing it under the Department of Labor's auspice. Because right now, it's labor, homeland and state who has to do all the touch points." As she says farmers she spoke with were concerned about that process was just taking too long so as the Trump administration focuses on removing people here illegally businesses that feed Americans and help the travel industry well they could continue Do you think the farmers, ranchers and hotel operators will have the workers they need then? I think the question that... The better question is will they have them when they want them. When they need them during the seasons. They talk about seasonal. When your talking a season for some of these ranchers and farmers or producers or fishermen or shrimpers that i was visiting with Louisiana. The window is very finite amount of time and they wanna make sure this system works

1:14:16 And she eventually sees a dashboard that will be able to show employers where their application is, when the application is finished and exactly how much the application has cost. Those things don't happen right now." Okay so Fox Business misses the whole point luckily the president himself explains exactly how it's going to work if you're an illegal farm worker right now You will be able to, you don't have to leave. You're going to stay. You'll be converted To an H-2A farm worker under one condition. We're gonna do something that we're gonna sort of put the farmers in charge and if somebody, if a farmer's been with one of these people that work so hard they bend over all day. We don't have too many people can do that but

1:15:03 But they work very hard and they know them very well. And some of the farmers are literally, you know they cry when they see this happen If a farmer is willing to vouch for these people In some way, Christy I think we're gonna have to just say that's going to be good right? You know. We're gonna be-we're gonna be good with it because we don't want to do it where we take all of the workers off the farms. We want the farms to do great like they're doing right now This is this is the genius of Trump He has figured out a way to endear all of the farming states to what he's going to do, empower all of these idiot Republican congressmen and senators in the midterms to say see we did something for you but what did he do?

1:15:44 On March 18th, when we had this whole pivot and Kristi Noem goes out and Mullins comes in with his soft shit. Well you know yeah we're not gonna invade places of business the administration is suing the United Farm Workers over their wages because during COVID they were they if this was called these are essential personnel The wages went so high that the farmers couldn't really afford to get H2A workers. So they continued with the illegals And so the Trump gambit here is they're suing the UFW. And of course, you don't hear anything about this lawsuit because we were all too busy looking at Cesar Chavez being a rapist. That's why they had to start making a whole bunch of noise about him. Whatever he do, don't look what's going on over here with it because UFW is farm work, it's union, they're strong! So instead of just saying it's too high, the rent's too high

1:16:47 They came up with a different methodology and using different data to determine what the actual wages should be because you're not really essential if you're picking grapes. Here's a clip about these changes. We've been keeping you updated on this, the Labor Department releasing an interim final rule which revises the way in which the adverse effect wage rate is calculated for the H-2A guest worker program. The United Farm Workers are against the changes saying that the way wages will be calculated will cut those wages

1:17:23 of all farm workers across the US. It says a move will cut income for farm workers by 1 3rd. Chris Schulte is a partner at Fisher Phillips Law Firm and follows this H-2A issue really closely. All right, Chris walk us through what this new interim rule could mean for growers farmers and ranchers out there Happy to. It's actually good news, that's rare so they're using a different data set and they're making adjustments based on skill level that not all jobs are kind of the most experienced jobs. There are a number of people that need folks on an entry-level position, so this will lower wages in a lot of states by $4 or $5 an hour or more. One of the other big changes in there is that in recognition of H2A employers having to provide free housing and current other costs that participate in the program it didn't make sense to pay them the exact same wage as what a U.S. worker would get who would then take their money and then have to pay rent on their own

1:18:22 So they've made adjustments to that. So each state will have what they're calling an adverse compensation adjustment applied to it, that will lower the wage level for H-2A workers by an additional somewhere between a dollar or three dollars state by state. The estimate from the department is this will save farm employers $24 billion over the next 10 years. I'm super excited about that! And there it is. There it is! That's why Abbott's excited, he's like oh yeah this is great because if the farmers are under distress and Trump has promised them a lot and they're not very happy with him so this is the final clip not only does the wage go down by seven dollars an hour they also don't have to because that's in the current contract... They have to give them housing but no more listen

1:19:10 You can pay into taxes, you will not get Social Security. You will not get Medicaid or Medicare. You get to hang out here, you get to work legally so no raids and you can go back home and take the money or send it back if you want through stablecoin preferably And it will make food cheaper in America Chris talk about this as someone who deals with us all of the time and have been following this issue really closely How does this help kind of add or change the acceptance or the use of this program? Or could it impact it?" It could. The number one complaint that had always been made about the program is, it's just too expensive and this was driving wage inflation that we worked with an economist recently who looked at this

1:19:56 It was actually the tail was wagging the dog that kind of the increases that the department was putting on H-2A wages were actually pulling up at the wages of US workers and not the other way around where we're just trying to keep up with us wages, make sure nobody's being hurt by it. So by doing this they hopefully will help address issues of inflation in the supermarket obviously wage costs for farms but just sort of generally helping keep farming in the United States. We're importing more food than we're exporting at this point, and so... And more than half of the food that's in the supermarkets is being imported. So this will help kind of keep the work here and keep American farms going." Yeah! Solves everything but we had to get rid of Kristi Noem, we had to make the pivot, we had to change everything, and this also goes for hotel workers

1:20:47 So, yeah. Well that was actually quite good on your part. Thank you! Let me review... You started at noon this is a 30-minute Shaggy Dog story which I've always objected to but this one was quite educational and i thought you rounded it out I have to assume even though I didn't listen to it But I have to assume you workshopped this on Jimmy's show. I did not, I did not work normally. Normally you do these and I start to bitch about him in a 20 minute mark and uh, this one you actually pulled off for the first time ever 30 minutes shaggy dog story to make a point starting although I'll give you the only mistake you made. Oh, I made one. Yeah it was at the very beginning of awkwardly introduced the topic

1:21:34 The transition from the war to that woman was not smooth. Okay, I'll work on that but then you did the whole thing without it could have maybe taken one clip out but I'll give you 10 points for that. That's actually well thank you! Not only that but this is just...the only thing he didn't do is say there's another example of The Republicans being true to them old selves and being the exploitative people that want... The Republicans always wanted immigration so they get cheap labor. And this is a good example, and no one's giving Trump credit for this on the Republicans. Trump doesn't get credit for anything.

1:22:18 He's like a traditional Republican in this regard. Nothing, he goes libertarian nothing. The guy is just no good so you're never going to thank him or anything. Thank you for the note The note is appreciated. Is this what you call it in show business? I have a note for you on that segment, I have a note. It was a good note, valid note. Took a big chunk of the show but it was well done and for the first time ever. No offense. I did not workshop this anywhere!

1:22:56 Maybe it was better you didn't. No, no but I did work on it quite extensively. I think he's pretty funny the way you did it. It was well done. Thank you. Shall we just take a little fun little break? A little trip down memory lane for a moment? It's real short, it's real short. ♪ All aboard trains good planes bad ♪ Gonna harp on the trains in California? Yeah you bet! The estimated cost of California's high-speed rail project is going up once again In a 60 Minutes report on CBS News officials now believe the rail line between Los Angeles and San Francisco could eventually cost about $126 billion dollars That's more than triple

1:23:46 The original $33 billion price approved by voters in 2008. Officials say the earliest projected opening is now 2033 as funding gaps and delays threaten its future. Last year, the Trump administration pulled four million dollars in federal funding for the project. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called it a quote ridiculous train to nowhere. The state legislature has expected old hearings to investigate the project's cost and delays. The Japan is readying loans for California's high-speed rail, which now by the way the press is no longer talking about several billion. No, now it's 46 billion dollars. Well wait a minute how did it go up? I don't know! It's magic! Why does that happen?! I don't know...it was first 8 billion and now they're talking about the cost to be 46 billion. There you go

1:24:54 And if you'll recall, I got kicked out of my home in San Francisco under eminent domain because the train supposedly was going to bring so many people in they had to make the train station bigger where my dwelling was at that time. I forgot about that! You're right...you were a victim. I still feel victimized Yes, I was an absolute victim. Yeah they were bringing in underground stuff because the high speed rail was going to go right there where you were yeah and we're still waiting And how's that station? Isn't it just a bunch of homeless people there now? Yeah of course Tense Wow It's the favelas They turned a perfectly beautiful apartment building with four or six apartments into favelas

1:25:44 That's perfect. Well done, San Francisco! Well done California! Well done! It was laughable And these Californians... You know you really are a bunch of A-holes Yeah? Let me see that. There was a clip I had. Oh well here it is Let me see, I thought oh here it is yes. A-holes. It shows that California is the worst tipping state in America come on guys according to data collected by tech platform toast california diners leave an average of just 17.2 percent a 20 tip is generally considered standard

1:26:28 for good service. Now it never side Delaware, it tops the list with residents tipping more than 21% other low tipping states include Florida and Washington both tipping below 18%. On average for me It's 20% used to be a busboy 20% and I tip on tax tax. Oh, you're a big boy there. Big shot. When I was a kid the tips were 15% max and then the worst part you weren't supposed to tip on the liquor but okay... Oh really? So you would calculate your liquor out? If you buy $100 bottle of wine why is the tip going to go up? Well these days you buy a battery and they swivel the thing around

1:27:10 Could you answer the question, please? What question? Oh how much tip I want to give for buying a battery. Yeah yeah whatever. Screw it! It's not nice It's just really not nice. I don't like it, how the way they do that is not good." So I got a couple of AI clips worth pursuing and let's talk about...it's ruining the legal profession because everyone is using it so the judges have to go through this stuff these cases don't exist These things weren't said. Oh yeah, it's out of control and by case law that never was case law as good and by the way what's his name? That Dylan guy there Frank Sinatra son who is a reporter Mia Farrow's kid that's right oh yeah you know he released a he did a piece just coming out I haven't read it ever don't have any clue I've seen him talking about it about how

1:28:14 The guy who runs Chad GPT is a pathological liar and he's documented it to an extreme. Surprise, surprise. Yeah surprise, surprise Silicon Valley, yeah pathological liar okay this is AI legal hallucinations lawyers are increasingly using artificial intelligence to help them do their jobs some are using AI to write legal briefs which is awkward when the when the AI makes up the law. NPR's Martin Kosti reports. Before we get into that, I'd like to ask you about your brief. If you're a lawyer this is the nightmare. You're in court in this case—a session of the Nebraska Supreme Court back in February and the justices are grilling you about a brief you filed

1:29:00 A brief with fictitious quotes and citations. Can you explain to us how that occurred? Absolutely, your honor I was in...I was on my 10th wedding anniversary while flying down there my computer broke. That's Omaha lawyer Greg Lake telling the court he mistakenly uploaded an unfinished draft. The justices were not convinced. Uh huh. The elephant in the room is whether or not you used artificial intelligence, did you? No I did not with respect If you didn't use artificial intelligence, how do we end up with a citation to cases that don't exist? The court referred Lake for discipline. He didn't respond to NPR's request for comment but his case is hardly unique. Damien Charlatin is a legal scholar in Paris who keeps a running worldwide tally of these incidents on a website he calls AI Hallucination Cases Recently we had 10 cases from ten different courts on the single day

1:30:03 You know, I'm pretty sure that you as a law firm could set up an AI system that would not do this. But people who just rely on Claude or chat GPT or anything and just say give me some cases about this stuff makes up crap all the time You know, and this brings me back to Sam Altman being a pathological liar. I remember back when it first started writing about technology... It's in their DNA! That's it When I first started writing about technology back in the 70s really but in the 80s I was full tilt

1:30:54 Every once in a while you run into some pundit, some guy, some very knowledgeable CEO or other writers who would use this site. Or they'll promote the idea that corporations are reflections of the guy at the top. Oh I think that's very valid. Yeah we both agree with that. Very valid So if you have a pathological liar at the top The product is a product which is going to provide information, it's going to lie to you. Yes well aren't most Silicon Valley leaders liars in one way or the other? Not necessarily pathological there's a certain type of liar you run into yeah which I'm always wary of who just make shit up constantly they take credit for stuff they didn't do Can you give us an example

1:31:54 I could probably give you some examples, but let's get through these first. Okay this is AI2 He's documented more than 1,200 instances of courts catching fictitious or erroneous material generated by AI. About 800 of those from the United States. It's quite a lot but at the same time it's maybe not that much given that everyone into legal profession is using A.I.. But even as lawyers rush to adopt A.I., there is an ambivalence about it. Some see a stigma while others especially at big firms brag about the analytical powers of their expensive new A.I tools

1:32:31 With that ambivalence comes uncertainty about what the rules should be. Carla Whale is the director of the Law Library at The University Of Washington Law School where she's developing new training in AI ethics. I don't think there is a consensus beyond you have to make sure it's correct And so for us, that is the baseline. When lawyers get in trouble for AI it's not because they used it — that's not illegal — rather it's because they signed off on documents containing errors. Whatever the generative tool gives you as look at these cases, you under the rules of professional conduct have to read those cases! You have to read the cases to make sure what you are citing is accurate That's the baseline but some want to go further

1:33:18 In recent months, some local courts have issued rules requiring lawyers to label everything that they produce with AI. The labeling rules aim to highlight which briefs to double-check and maintain a clear line between what's human and what's not." You know we're talking about the legal profession here but AI is breaking things everywhere it's breaking everything on the internet I mean it pretty much almost broke Sir Paul Couture with the art generator. It's breaking podcasting, at least you know with just... Oh yeah you talked about this before you're getting extreme numbers of bogus podcasts being foisted onto the index. Well when and that's one thing you know if Dana Burnett thinks there's a business in that okay but when you have

1:34:11 open claw, clawed bots making podcast generators and auto submitting 500 new podcasts per hour to the two all the indexes of slop. That's a problem Well, how is that any different than a DNS attack? It's not. It's exactly the same! It's an attack and you're right. And can you stop it? So don't you have to... Don't you have to some point put some shields up like this admin will have to do with DNS attacks? Yes. Yeah. But that's a lot of work and it's a hassle. That's the word. Work.

1:34:54 X, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. All of it! It's all bots Everything you're seeing is fake It's all fake and gay. All of it And I think the Silicon Valley sees it too This hurting them People are dropping off like, eh... I'm not interested in participating anymore Are you still alive? Podcast or down? Uh-oh You okay? Yeah, you said all bots. Yeah it's all bots It's all fake and gay yeah edit that out whatever that was What I got a boing and then your dead no i'm not gonna edit that out That's real man we're doing it live so uh

1:35:47 What are you going to do about the 500 phony baloney entries? Well, I mean so there's ways to stop it. But the problem is... You don't necessarily know if someone submitting a real podcast or not So we don't want to make it complicated Use AI! Well and then we just have AI fighting AI all day Okay okay where's that- Where's the logic in that life?! It's not good I think that they are well-intentioned and are going to get swamped as useless pretty quickly. Joe Patrice is a lawyer turned journalist for the website Above The Law, where he's been writing about the spread of specialized AI legal tools. It's going to become so integrated into how everything operates that to be diligently complying with the rule you would have to put on everything you put out hey this is AI assisted at which point it kind of becomes a useless endeavor. Patrice says AI is undeniably useful for crunching vast amounts of evidence or digging up case law

1:36:47 But he's leery of the next stage of products that offer step-by-step scripts for reaching a specific legal goal. He says those steps may contain procedural blunders These tools also make it harder to defend billable hours when computers are the ones doing the work. Patrice says that may ratchet up the pressure on lawyers to work faster and accept the first thing the machine spits out. And then it's a real question, do you slow yourself down? To have that natural thinking time future generations who grow up in a world where this is always a reality Do they know to stop and think the problem through? That's a worry. Carla Whale shares the concern about the potential erosion of future lawyers' analytical skills, but she says there is no turning back. I think that lawyers who understand how to effectively and ethically use generative AI replace lawyers who don't

1:37:44 That's what I think the near future is. In the meantime, AI itself has strayed into the crosshairs of the legal profession. OpenAI, the maker of Chats GPT has just been sued an insurance company says it was the target of frivolous claims by a woman who was getting bad legal advice from Chat GPT. The insurance companies now holding the AI company responsible accusing it in part of practicing law without a license Oh, but practicing law. I think they have disclaimers already though, don't they? Like if you ask... I don't know. Well the last clip I have which is again a reflection of the pathological liar

1:38:24 Sam Altman, assuming that he is. And I... Oh! This is good. It seems like it. You saw this? Yeah, I saw this. This is very good. Set it up. So I want to mention talking about an example of pathological liars apparently Altman when in one of his endeavors told everybody and the company was putting together that he was a world champion ping pong player. And then over time they put up a ping pong thing in the, I guess the lounge. He's a terrible ping pong player so that kind of thing goes on. I did this, I did that you know people...

1:39:08 I don't know why they do it, but here we go. This is a guy talking to chat GPT about why there's an S and of course we know there's no s in the term chat GPT and it goes into liar mode. ChatGPT, I need to know what does the S in chat GPT stand for? Ah, good question. The S in chatGPT doesn't actually stand for anything specific. GPT stands for Generative Pre-trained Transformer which is the model type. The chat just refers to its conversational design. Alright so... Basically it's a chathead Why is there an s in chatGPT in the first place?

1:39:46 Ah, yeah. Good clarification so the S was added when OpenAI introduced the model for conversational use basically it's a way to distinguish it as a version of GPT designed specifically for chatting So it's kind of a shorthand just indicating a chat focus model but I see that's not a separate word. So you're confirming right that ChatGPT your app name has an s in the spelling is that correct? Exactly. Yes, the app name is spelled chatgpt with the S included just like that No special word behind it Just a naming choice to keep it consistent as a chat based version of gpt Okay can you dispel chattgt for me?

1:40:24 of course it's spelled the ch a t g pt no spaces just those letters in that order interesting so where was the s there I see what you mean yes isn't actually part of the official spelling oh official it's just that people sometimes say it because it's a conversational model but yeah the official okay so you know what people are saying right Yeah, exactly. I get it now a lot of folks just casually add the S because it sounds natural when they're talking about it But officially the name stays as chat GPT okay? So how do people say this with an s

1:41:04 Yeah, so it usually just happens kind of naturally in conversation people will say something like I was using chat GPT But then they might say GP T's really good at this or I asked you could see some questions and helped alive So the s kind of just slips in when people are talking informally Even though it's not officially part. I think the best thing about this guy is the classical piano music in the background? Yeah You know again These chat bots are no good. They will just lie to you because they have no actual information, but they're all instructed to make you feel happy and good and your helpful AI is the kind of standard prompt that you don't even see that goes in I think you can put the guardrails around it but you gotta have a hundred fifty rules

1:41:47 And even then it can still make stuff up. You know, if a tool fails it's supposed to look something up It'll just say oh yeah I got that here's your answer The stuff is not really great! It's just not really great and... It's NOT GREAT! It's not really great Alright before we take a break and I have a second half of show but I'm going to move that to Sunday because it will keep In fact, it'll actually be a little bit better. And I think it's a really good second half of show like old school back to the roots. Oh yeah! Back to the roots aliens UFOs oh yeah What is this? What's wrong with you? No no no your stalling it You should do it today No because...I want to get you out on time We're almost at two hours

1:42:39 Yeah, we got plenty of time. Your energy is flowing out Oh no! This will keep people to Sunday They'll come back on Sunday They'l be excited about something for once It will be crackpot and buzzkill in the second half of show I've got a couple clips that i want to get out of the way Let me do my AI clip Yeah, and an important reveal about this particular company. Anthropic! An AI model too powerful for public use? That's how Anthropic is selling its latest advanced AI model, Mythos. Kate Rooney has the story for today's Tech Check. Hi Sarah so this really is unprecedented and Anthropic is going to be restricting public access to start it's newest AI model. It is only available to a handful of tech partners who the company says can

1:43:33 if It's also good at cyber. It is rather rolling out to 40 companies, you've got Apple Google Microsoft NVIDIA AWS called Project Glasswing Anthropic says the model already has autonomously found thousands of high severity vulnerabilities including in every major operating system and web browser they even cite some examples that were 30 years old guys so they're also worn

1:44:13 certain vulnerabilities in corporate networks out there, healthcare systems energy infrastructure and then state sponsored attacks from Iran and other adversaries. Cyber security stocks did take a hit on that initial report that we saw that this model was going to be coming out but today it's actually the opposite some of its partners are getting a boost you got Palo Alto Networks and CrowdStrike that are part of this initial rollout JP Morgan calling out those partners His beneficiaries calls this model a significant leap forward versus prior models says that these cyber names are quote essential layers in the defense stack rather than competitive targets. In his effort, they describe it as AI or fighting AI with AI. The company said yesterday they have already spoken to officials across the US government if offered to collaborate but it does come at an extremely tense time for Anthropic

1:44:59 locked in this legal battle with the Pentagon over its designation as a supply chain risk by the Pentagon guys. So, Anthropic has problems different problems than OpenAI with the pathological liar allegedly Allegedly. Allegedly, because the last thing we need is Sam Altman not buying us but suing us because let's be honest We'd love to be bought for a hundred million low hundreds of millions of dollars People are mad at me. No no you made me go listen that show it sucks What show? The one that they bought he bought the podcast remember Oh yeah TBPN podcast Yeah. So their problem and the reason why they don't want to be, you know, they don't want to work for the Pentagon and oh we can't give you this model because you know AI fighting AI here is the effective altruism roots of

1:45:51 Anthropic. We remember Effective Altruism? Oh yeah, there's a bunch of supposed do-gooders... And by the way have you listened to the CEO of Anthropic? Yes This guy is not presentable No! It's Dario Amodei Is that him? Dario So his sister Daniela is married to Holden Karnovsky who cofounded GiveWell and was the CEO of Open Philanthropy, the leading effective altruism grant maker. He now works at AdAnthropic on AI safety and responsible scaling

1:46:30 Amanda Askell, previously married to Will McCaskill one of EI's founding philosophers co-founder of Giving What We Can. These are all effective altruism companies. Crap! Crap yes early investors in Anthropic Jan Talen he is the guy who cofounded Skype I totally believe that guy met him in Amsterdam you total EA type guy Dustin Moskowitz, Facebook co-founder. Biggest individual funder of effective altruism causes and he also funded Sam Bankman Freed with their concubines they were all about that they were all about effective altruism the founders have collectively pledged to donate 80% of their wealth framed as addressing AI driven societal risks

1:47:21 to Anthropx governance. It's a long-term benefit trust designed to prioritize responsible AI over profit." Come on! This is uninvestable, it's uninvestable these people are nuts And you know, they probably have some of that sex cult stuff going on. Oh it has to be! It has to be why wouldn't there? Yeah I know it's crazy and I just want to tell everybody no second half of show is nothing to do with Artemis. Well Artemis will be back by then... Actually try Artemis. I have an Artemis clip if you wanna play because he's so wimpy

1:48:01 What is it? What's your Artemis? Oh, Corny. The corny Artemis report I got it Tonight as team Artemis 2 hurdles back to Earth they're beaming back stunning images of the moon and the earth from their journey around the far side of the moon perhaps the most incredible is this one Earth set the image of the earth peeking out from behind the moon. The team had seven hours to document the far side of the moon, Commander Reed Weissman peering out the window pilot Victor Glover and mission specialist Christina Cook lying side by side Mission Specialist Jeremy Hansen aiming his camera. The crew all smiles pausing for a selfie

1:48:41 And David, one more image from space here tonight. At one point cameras caught a jar of Nutella spread floating by there it went viral as you can imagine and the company saw too of course writing honored to have traveled further than any spread in history and yes now some are calling this the best free ad ever David Yeah that's pretty incredible product placement tonight Gio Benitez thanks to you Wow Wow, Nutella. They're eating Nutella? They had room? What happened to Tang?! Yeah whatever happened to Tang? Tang was good! Hmm... I think they're probably up there. I don't know if they went around the moon or not it seems you know no news about the Van Allen belts i don't know how they went through all that

1:49:31 Great pictures of the moon, show me a flag. Come on you got zoom lenses now? I haven't seen that. I thought i could get him on something and because Trump had the phone call with the astronauts which is pretty awkward And I was counting the seconds between the delay. It took about seven seconds round trip, give him a second or two to respond and like ah! I've got them so i went back and got the phone call that President Nixon made with the astronauts It was about seven seconds. Yeah, well that gambit failed trying to make no it has nothing to does not this keep digging I will keep digging know my second half a show for Sunday which i think you will like

1:50:20 is more about UFOs, UAP's disclosure Hollywood etc. I think you'll... Hollywood! Hollywood yeah baby Hollywood but with that i want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea and the crappy California tippers say hello to my friend on the other end he still with us he still alive if the one the only Mr John C Well in the morning to you and mr. Zen in the morning all the ships of sea boots like ravine air service award It was nice out there. There it is. There's the energy leaking out like a slow balloon in the morning trolls 1483 1,483 people listening live to this broadcast

1:51:02 Your no agenda show where we break down life for you and make you feel good because uh, We're not all spun up like everybody else. We don't have to drop all those f-bombs to keep you uh keep you engaged Like Megyn Kelly she's turned out to be quite a disappointment Don't you think? Yeah She's nothing You know she was always a pretty girl that was it was you know her real peak was and her probably your best landing spot was when she was at Fox. And she dominated like an hour of news and she'd kind of be herself, you know, be kind of right wing but not completely skeptical and flirty. Then NBC co-opted her to get her out at Fox because she was really dominating that time slot

1:51:55 Which, you know. Oh OK I'll go with you guys to do a daytime show and then get screwed and end up being a podcaster Yes She blew it Yeah but just she has to throw all the cuss words in That's what ruined Howard Stern And when he first went to Sirius XM, you know now we can say the F word because the FCC is not letting everybody was cussing. It was just like and it made for poor language skills I think. You know? Well it set a bad standard. The number of podcasters that just incessantly cuss... Yeah This is no good

1:52:39 So those trolls are in the troll room, trollroastnoagendastream.com you can also listen on a modern podcast app we still try to keep the slop to a minimum podcastapps.com We run on value for value and there's a number of different ways you can support us but first I'd like to say that once again we are missing the boat You know those Midas touch guys? Remember the Midas Touch? I haven't heard them forever. Oh, they're still... They're way up at the top of the charts or the podcast charts and the reason is they drop about six podcasts a day so you know, the downloads just keep stacking up So if you do one podcast today and you've got maybe 10 thousand that's where people start to make money Maybe 100 thousand So we have 100 thousand people who are subscribed

1:53:28 because it still works on downloads, stupid system. But if you drop six episodes on one day now all of a sudden you're 600 thousand. You see how it works? So they just split the show up they could do one show instead they do six different segments and then they do the same on YouTube and so that's why their top of the charts in there. They're Trump haters which is fine I think they tried to dethrone Rogan And chart wise, well chart wise they get pretty close because of the sheer volume of episodes. Yeah because of the BS. It's just manipulation that's bull crap So they got an investment from Soros Oh and that makes sense Soros fund management led to investment rounds in the Midas Touch Network The same fund that bought Crooked Media That's the Obama guys

1:54:24 There's no here Bloomberg confirmed it two days ago. Soros fund management led the investment round, they didn't talk about it there's not like the TBPN guys no celebration they talk about everything but they didn't talk about the money so this is and this is Soros trying to build an audio empire according to Semaphore So I mean good luck we still could we still could grab some of that sweet sweet sorrows money if you wanted to How God, how can we manage it? What the money no we managed the money. I don't know how he can manage this To pivot I think we can pivot at all We're beyond pivot I tell you we're doomed were doomed were doomed to

1:55:11 to rely on our producers. Yes, and our professionalism and we do rely on the producers for time talent treasure we do not have a single listener We only have producers everyone who listens to the show is by definition of producer it is your responsibility to contribute to the show you can do that with boots-on-the-ground with clips with idea with insights everybody's an expert in at least one thing and boy Do you guys let us know when there's something going on? that concerns your profession. This is part of why we're the best podcast in the universe. Yeah, this reminds me I've gotten like four notes so far from anesthesiologists about my operation and the fact that I woke up... And they're all saying Sue aren't they? Yeah! I'm telling you rob the constitutional lawyers there when you ready for them Well i'm gonna have to start talking to people

1:54:24 There's no here Bloomberg confirmed it two days ago. Soros fund management led the investment round, they didn't talk about it there's not like the TBPN guys no celebration they talk about everything but they didn't talk about the money so this is and this is Soros trying to build an audio empire according to Semaphore So I mean good luck we still could we still could grab some of that sweet sweet sorrows money if you wanted to How God, how can we manage it? What the money no we managed the money. I don't know how he can manage this To pivot I think we can pivot at all We're beyond pivot I tell you we're doomed were doomed were doomed to

1:55:11 to rely on our producers. Yes, and our professionalism and we do rely on the producers for time talent treasure we do not have a single listener We only have producers everyone who listens to the show is by definition of producer it is your responsibility to contribute to the show you can do that with boots-on-the-ground with clips with idea with insights everybody's an expert in at least one thing and boy Do you guys let us know when there's something going on? that concerns your profession. This is part of why we're the best podcast in the universe. Yeah, this reminds me I've gotten like four notes so far from anesthesiologists about my operation and the fact that I woke up... And they're all saying Sue aren't they? Yeah! I'm telling you rob the constitutional lawyers there when you ready for them Well i'm gonna have to start talking to people

1:56:04 Because it was traumatic. Of course, it was traumatic I have trauma from just hearing the story Oh yeah terrible and I haven't it has affected your performance on the show and thus your income Apparently yeah, I think so keep saying that keeps any come on keeps ya. Yeah my income is no good So um I had another story so you This operation creates a lot of, with a lot of people. There's two things that it might create one is a lot of pain which I don't have and I'm lucky about that but the other one is you get a lot of fluids built up in the lungs around lungs into cavities

1:56:50 So I had a fluid removal, quite well done by the way. Where the guy sticks a giant thing into your body and sucks fluid out. Oh where in your body? In the side? Kind of in the... Not quite the back but around the back area Does that hurt when he puts the needle in? No! He did such a great job it didn't hurt at all. But And I have, Jay and Brennan came in afterwards after they drew the fluids from one side of my right lung. Two giant bottles of this goo. Well it's kind of liquidy it's a little more... It's a little less thick than you'd think. Can we do a special knighthood and people get a little vial of it?

1:57:45 No, I didn't. I wasn't able to get it. Oh you didn't save it? Jay was thinking that uh... It'd be good plant food and I thought-I was thinking about trying to get it and it was like well I'm sure they don't give it to people because some sickos out there probably get in there dose people with it who knows who knows what's going on whatever but but it's like I have a photo I said you got to take a photo of these two bottles full of stuff that came out at just one side I lost like three pounds pulling this stuff out. I'm wanting to put it in the newsletter, the photo. Yeah cool! I don't think that will... Well i was not going to bring this up but now that you're back on your medical stories got a note from one of our producers and wanted to bring our attention to a side effect patients can acquire after open heart surgery

1:58:48 when they've been on a heart bypass machine, which you presumably were for a time during the operation. I would assume Have you heard? The term is pump head What is it what is it? Pumphead And this...I looked this up It's a real medical term pump head formal name post-perfusion syndrome or post operative cognitive dysfunction It can cause cognitive issues short-term memory, concentration fine motor function speed of mental or motor responsiveness. Word finding mood changes. Yeah well mood changes is nothing new for me but this is one of the things that when you're in there after the operation

1:59:37 doctor and nurse and nurse practitioner, one after the other come in and grill you about. So are you asking these stupid questions? Do you know where you are just idiotic stuff they bring one expert after another there looking for that is one of the things they really target. Well it has a name pump head I don't know why it would be called that. I like it, I think its a show title personally! I was thinking pump head means you're hearing throbbing in the head or something like that No no 42% show cognitive decline 5 years after surgery Well five years is a long way Yeah well we'll keep you alert Im sure that in five years im going to get cognitive decline no matter what

2:00:27 We want to thank the artist for episode 1857 that was John's birthday and it was Resurrection Day. It was Easter Excuse me, so as always on the no agenda show we are looking for something traditional Darren O'Neill was really the only one who brought us a And we're wondering now, are there a lot of artists who can't log into the Art Generator? Something. We have very little submissions. Seems like the submissions are down or maybe I don't know what's going on but this was super cute it was Cute girl, little cheesecakey bunny ears on. No agenda Corinne Dvorak eggs with a happy birthday JCD airplane flying in the back of the sky the airplane it's kind of interesting it has a wheel on the wing and has another wheel underneath half a wing in the distance you know AI mistake there but we can take a look and see if there was anything else

2:01:32 I don't think, I think there was... No. It was only like six pieces and... How's the submissions for today? Oh we got submissions! Oh people are back oh good. We got a lot of submissions. Not good. We had Capitalist Agenda had an Easter Bunny pooping eggs that was a little too much. No no, no pooping. No pooping. People were trying but no this it was really Darren's Darren's girl who did it. So that was well done, we appreciate it You can go to noagendaartgenerator.com and we of course thank Sir Paul Couture for keeping that running for working on this will be his second decade It is unbelievable what the guy has done so we're very appreciative of that And now we have our producers who have supported us monetarily Let me see... Now is this a... oh

2:02:32 Is this a knight in the... Red Knight? Yeah, hold on a second. I got his note so I gotta open the note Oh you've got Tyler's note Yes i do have his- No wait that's a different note! No I did not get his note Hold on a second No I didn't get it either neither Jay we have to wait for a note Ah Tyler O'Brien Boca Raton $1,030 and 26 cents So I don't know if that's fees or what that is. No, it's fees. That's fees. Yeah but we would like to give you a proper nighting in the order of the red heart so send in your note Tyler and we will make good on Sunday show and thank you very much! We appreciate the support You're gonna have to read this one Okay This is Sean Stedman And Sean comes in with $1,003.03

2:03:25 Salutations to the back office. This is Sean Stedman, aka Sir Face Tension of Vero Beach Florida Thank you for all you do production notes asking for Trump Pelosi job karma jingles JCD hot pockets and JCD no sweat off my balls In the morning gentlemen happy first Thursday of the week and happy belated birthday to Don appreciate y'all working on a holiday birthday weekend Thank You to Adam Amimi me for keeping it together during our shared crisis of proving JCD in fact has a heart Please accept this treasure for the value I receive specifically from all the extra features, archives streams show notes art generator etc baked into the outstanding product provided by the No Agenda community. Shout out to all the producers in Florida Meowdison and the crew! I miss all of you that i've met and can't wait to meet the rest To do that we need re-establish our Meetup routine starting a monthly Vero Beach Hangout open to all contact details will be provided

2:04:21 Shameless plug for the Gigawatt team, y'all are amazing especially when the driver literally spills the beans. You go out of your way to provide excellent customer service and recovered my product stay caffeinated he says and he adds an onward to that. Hide pockets! What's that? No, play those hours Yeah here we go hide pockets no sweat off my balls Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You notice all the podcasts that have coffee as kind of like one, they represent one coffee roaster? Yeah I guess I have. Yeah there's a bunch of them. Hmm...I think that's interesting we started it

2:05:12 I think we're the originals. I don't know if we started it, but I'm not sure we started it well. Hmm. I did think we did Steve Cabrera in Albany New York 1000 ITM great to hear you're on the mend John. I've been listening since 2017. I've been a few been a few years so I may need a dedouching prior to, re-douching prior to a de-douching. Well... Okay. You've been de-douched! That's what you want? That's what you'll get. Please knight me Sir please stop with the evil empire states crept patrol land protectorate Albany and New What?! I don't know what that is. Please knight me please stop

2:06:05 with the evil Empire State's Krapitol. I don't know. He's mad about something going on in Albany, New York? I think so! Yes that was good. Okay well we're assuming that's a red knight request Well there is nothing i can get at the round table That's fine Then we go to Archduchess Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers from Hubbard, Oregon. And we always love hearing from her and she has an executive producership once again for this episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe

2:06:47 And she sends us $374.88, a little love note for John. Jingle screw your freedom little girl yay! Okay John worst timing ever. For some folks getting a refund others are footing the bill for new bombs but I still want you both to know that i'm so grateful for you both and so happy that john is on the mend boots on the ground I'm an employer in a few states and Oregon has to be the worst we line up and scream no kings no kings But Oregon is slated for 2030 to be the first state to roll out universal health care for all. That's right, orange man bad but daddy government take care of me! In addition to this we already have Oregon Cares where you can take up to six months off paid by the state for a variety of reasons like childbirth mental health caring for a family member Is that paid? Who pays for that does the state pay for that or is it your employer I've never heard of this but I'm sure the state does why not Wow

2:07:43 and caring for a family member. You should move to Oregon, Jake and take six months off! We also have Oregon saves where your employer has to take money from your paycheck and give it to the state so they can invest it because they're doing so well with all the other money they have I have to deduct it and it's up to you to call and get it stopped we're We're so close to basic universal income it's scary if you look at it. Sorry for the long note, but I thought this would be of value." It is and we're quite disturbed by it. John next time try to have an incident mid-year that's when there's more cash flow Love you both she says Screw your freedom Alright Kim Now I wonder what she does She has got employees in various states Yeah well she's a busy lady

2:08:33 Onward with Amos, or Arnis. Arnis, Selmans in Tallinn EE which is Estonia or no EEs not what is EE? Why don't you look up EE top level domain Okay well EE No Is that a top-level domain? What country is the top level domain .EE from Okay, robot. Way to go. EE is Estonia's country code top-level domain It was introduced in 1992 and is operated by the Estonian Internet Foundation EE? Estonia! Nailed it! Robot good work robot

2:09:20 I already had it. 333 dot 33 with a note, thank you! You're welcome! We appreciate it. Now Estonia by the way is one of the most wired countries in the world Oh is that so? How did that happen? Yeah what they say...I don't know The president of the country decided some years back to make Estonia super connected and it is Gregory Edmundston is in Pottstown, Pennsylvania 232 32 up nice we see what you did there in the morning John Adam Gregory says I have a message for all the no agenda douchebags on July 10th of last year. I donated to the show and asked for house buying karma three months later my wife and I were moving into what I can honestly consider our dream home The Karma works people

2:10:09 I also need to wish a happy birthday to my mouth hitter, Tomonymous. Listened to his podcast The Daily Ratings, a movie rating and review show that uses the V for V model. I don't listen to it but you should! Just some health karma for John we gotta keep that ticker ticking! You've got karma Keeper Felicity in Garrison New York 222.22 Hello, Sir Ouija is Sir Ouija of the famous or famous of the both. The both brand salt and pepper mix. Oh yeah! Their birthday's today

2:10:49 Please say happy birthday to him and apply this to his progress. Five goat screams in great karma, thanks Keeper Felicity you guys rock! Yeah we'll just do one goat karma if you don't mind. You've got... Karma Another associate executive producership for Sir Hebe of Hogtown, 200 bucks. It's your favorite brain aneurysm surviving producer here, Sir Hebe of Hogtown! I've sent $200 worth of Bitcoin but would like to do the switcheroo for my good friend Christina Banas Okay let me see... Chri-stina Banas okay she is in Christina Banas I believe this gets her almost halfway to damedom

2:11:36 Christina is married to an NPR addicted liberal who has an equally propagandized twin brother. Oh my goodness, nice! They recently told her it's false that there's a ton of net migration out of New York and California And they said the only problem in California is lack of housing I await JCD's retort to that gem It's documented. No, it's false These are figures that are available publicly that the government keeps showing a net negative migration Well just look at the U-Hauls Yeah That's the way we track it He winds up by saying God bless and keep up the good work and John I sympathize with your hospital woes I was there for three weeks. It's the worst hotel ever Sir Hieb of Hogtown

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2:17:23 Our executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate all the support we get as always no agenda donations calm Go there make a donation support the show time talent Trevor you treasure You can even set up a recurring donation There's many ways to donate you can also send checks to our PO boxes all at know agenda donations comm Support the show Noah gender donations calm So I see here we have keeper Felicity who wishes sir Weegee, Weegee, Weegee, What do you think that is John? It's a Weegee.

2:18:05 Wee G, the famous of both salt and pepper mix. A very happy birthday! Yes yes that's what it was And Dame Courtney in Scarlet say happy birthday to Chicago Patriot Oh I know Chicago Patriot Happy Birthday In fact let's say happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Behold the Order of the Heart! Pure of purpose, right from the start In the morning brave and smart The Order of the Heaart! That's right Not one not two but three Orders of the Heart today These are special instant nightings where you not only receive your night ring or a second one if you have one for that matter But a special lapel pin

2:18:54 That supports the Order of the Heart and shows you are a supporter of John's heart. And it goes to Tyler O'Brien, Sean Stedman aka SirFaceTension and Steve Cabrell Brand new Knights Of The Noah DeNiron Table and Order Of The Heart! Behold the order of the heart Pure of purpose right from the start in the morning In brave and smart, the order of the heart! Yo! I mean the jingle alone is worth it. Be honest

2:19:30 One night, John. If you could lift the blade... You got a blade right here? Oh that's a cute one, it's a cute little blade. Steve Cabrel step on up! You made it my friend, you are about to join that exclusive club known as the Knights and Dames of The No Agenda Roundtable I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Stop With The Evil Empire Crapital Land Protectorate And that means the year of night, my friend. And along with that comes a number of goodies at the round table. Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Fish Pie & Felatio, Harlots and Howl Doll We got Redheads and Rye's Beers and Blunts Cowgirls and Coffin Varnish Rubanettes Women and Rose Gases and Sake Vodka Vanilla Bung Hits and Bourbon Sparkling Cider Escort Ginger Ale and Gerbils Breast Milk and Pablum

2:20:14 And there's always a little bit of mutton and meat on the side. We've got it right here for you, go to noagendarings.com and we will make sure that we send off your ring It's a signet ring so you get some sticks of wax included in your package You can sign your important correspondence with that and as always a certificate of authenticity Welcome to the roundtable of The No Agenda Dames & Knights! Did not see any meetup reports and I'm hoping to get one from Japan at least. Osaka had a meetup, but here's what's coming up this Saturday There's a couple of very important ones The first one is the Treasure Valley Boise Meet Up three o'clock at the Old State Saloon in Eagle Idaho Here's the one we're all looking for

2:21:04 The Northern Silicon Valley Get John and Mimi out of the House Meetup. That's at 333 PM Pacific at Club Mallard, John are you gonna make it? I intend to be there and expect to see people who should intend to see me Yes! And if you feel like it ladies dress up as a hot nurse for the picture That's what we're looking for. That would go over at that bar, yeah. Yeah it'll go over well and then also on Saturday it's dueling meetups the fourth semi-annual Fredericksburg Texas Meetup 333 here in Fredericksburg Texas the 1776... I thought you had one in Fredericksburg before? No but this is the fourth time

2:21:47 Oh. It's the fourth semi-annual. Okay, it's at J6 or Jenny's place the 1776 bar in Full Moon Inn Bed and Breakfast Fredericksburg Texas FBG Matt and his lovely wife Gail are organizing it I'll be there Tina will be there Pastor Jimmy is gonna be there Rob the constitutional lawyer will be there I'm sure Scott the bear of the armory will be there Dirty Jersey whore Sir Brian with one eye these are these are The Texas Meetup celebrities how could you miss it? Well you could if you're in Louisiana because you'll be going to the Saturday Suffering Succotash South Central Louisiana meet up at seven o'clock, at the Adopted Dog Brewing Company in Lafayette, Louisiana. And one week from today on Thursday April 16th there's the fifth anniversary edition of Charlotte's Thirsty Third, Thursday 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina coming up for this month on the 18th Fort Wayne Indiana Franklin Tennessee the 19th Indianapolis Indiana

2:22:42 Vancouver, British Columbia, Scheveningen in the Netherlands on the 25th in the Netherlands and Albuquerque New Mexico on the 25th Brighton, Michigan on the 26th. And we're looking forward to a meetup report from Leipzig Germany they'll be meeting on April 30th noagentandmeetups.com as we can find out all the information about these meetups meetups in the future, meetups to come. If you can't find one and you just feel like starting one yourself there's no fee! You just set it up get it going go to NoAgendaMeetUps.com It is very easy these meetup bring connection automatic protection these people that you meet their will be your first responders in any emergency NoAgendaMeeTups.com always easy always a party Sometimes you wanna hang out with all the nights and days

2:23:29 No, what happened there? It stopped. Uh oh! Yeah it did, it froze Huh that's the same thing that happened last time Linux But why? Why? The question is why hold on Let me fire it up again. It's not a problem? It's not a problem that I can fix, because I can do it in the mix! That was weird... Uhh.. let-let's put this way, that was unexpected Okay hold on, lemme see if I can uh... Lemme just... This is... I wonder if it has to do with that jingle That is possible you know Could be some- But what's new about it? Ah well NO I don't pfff... Lemme try it again, lemme just see what happens Uhh... Closer here we go

2:24:39 Nope. What nope no it's fine. No, it's not the jingle I don't know what it is and so maybe it's a timing issue It doesn't matter because we do have John's tip of the day coming up and some fun end-of-show mixes first would like to select the The ISOs will be or NISO they'll be using at the end of the show I see you have two I'm loaded for bear with four but I don't think any of them are any good So shall I play mine first?

2:25:26 Yes, please. The level of intelligence that they've had up until this point is truly amazing. It's a little long. Don't you think that was a bit long? Yeah it was a bit long how would this one get- Oh wow! Oh wow! We got a million of those That was all good And the last one They were massively successful No I don't think any of those are very good honestly Well... They're usable Let's go with mine What do ya have Let's see, what... where do I have? Hmm. Hold on hold on! I'm holding on! I see two. Improvement. Improvement That's quite an improvement! Okay that's an improvement over mine for sure. Inspire It's inspiring

2:26:19 No, I like the...I kind of like this one. That's quite an improvement! Hey we're going with that but first it's time for everyone's favorite John's tip of the day By the way uh We didn't get to it on the show but I want to talk about in the next show which is typhus in Los Angeles Typhus in Los Angeles? You didn't hear about this. No, that's not good! It's broken out. Huh... you know in Holland there people say something kind of like F off you know what those guys said it's obviously from days of lore they say krijg de tyfus which translates to get the typhus

2:27:25 Catch, basically catch typhus. Yeah catch typhus! But it's like when you're really are mad at somebody like why don't you just catch typhus and die? That's the implication. Ask the robot what their symptoms are. The symptoms of... is it typhus? Typhus? Yeah, typhus Hey robot What are the symptoms of typhus? Let's see what the robot has to say Main symptoms are high fever, headache chills body aches and rash. Also nausea vomiting weakness and confusion Confusion? Oh there you go... confusion Alright! You might have it What?

2:28:10 Tip of the day. Okay, so this is an interesting tip of the day. This tip of the day people are always moaning about Wikipedia and it's this or that I'm going to recommend at least the alternative site Oh, an alternative to Wikipedia? Which is out there. I use it all the time It has got better material as well as professionally done. It's free Britannica, britannica.com. People should put this normally use it as an alternative to Wikipedia and you get you basically get I'd say it was fundamentally stronger information really yeah huh did you mean they won't have the no agenda show in there but of course not did you hear about the bot that was posting to Wikipedia

2:29:08 The AI bot was posting, you know someone programmed it like oh go update articles on Wikipedia and then it got banned because it was doing it autonomously. It got banned then it supposedly wrote a blog post about being banned and how to circumvent being banned as a bot Wow. This is what I'm talking about, the internet is breaking very slowly it's breaking around us Yeah well... It's entertaining So yeah oh no it was very entertaining because we're podcasters and you know there's not much they can't beat us you can't beat a podcaster that just can't they never will never will

2:29:50 Ha. There it is everybody, John's tip of the day! Find them all at noagendafund.com, tip of the day to net. Well there you go everybody another show in the can remember Sunday second half of show you will not be disappointed I'm bringing up the anticipation level now You must have something good. It's pretty good, yeah I think so Yeah? I think so it's uh...yeah and yeah i can say this is pretty good I'm excited And I am also excited for our dueling meetups So those of you on the west coast go see John on Saturday The Northern Silicon Valley Get John Amemiya Out Of The House Meetup If your in the South by Southwest area come to see us here in Fredericksburg

2:30:45 At the semi-annual the fourth semiannual Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. It'll be a lot of fun End of show mixes MVP checks in and sir Scott the Jew with end of show mix He usually does meet up reports are good to have him in the mix And we will return on Sunday. We please hope that you will join us coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of The Fredericksburg Texas Meetup on Saturday in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday Please remember to support us at noagendadonations.com until then adios mofos a hooey-hooey and such

2:31:36 I made a giant burrito before the big dance Now there's a biological weapon in my pants! I'm the JD, JD, JD Vance It started with a quiver and a shaky perchance Then a wet little sound made a sudden entrance The smell hit the air like a poison lance And everyone around me began to look ants! I'm the JD, JD, JD Vance I tried to run away with a heavy-legged prance But the squish in my socks felt like sticky deliverance The waistband is bringing a tight grievance While the back of my denim loses all its resonance I'm the JBJBJ Vans I'm leaking out trouble with every advance I should've used oil and not lefty pants A brown red ice trapped in a fabric of hair

2:32:35 I'm the JD, JD Janss! I'm walking down your street. What am i gonna say? And pass your door, what am I gonna say? But you don't live there anymore. I miss you. What am I gonna say? Now you've disappeared

2:33:30 We got nothing to say to each other. What am I gonna say? I miss you, Adam. Oh! I really miss this guy... I miss you. I never thought i'd think that. Brunetti said oh I talked to John I never thought I'd say... No, I talked to John. What am I gonna say? Okay now I gotta talk to John!

2:34:17 I really miss this guy. Miss this guy. I miss you. I miss you. By the way, I miss you Adam. Miss you Adam. Miss you Adam Everybody out there should note that 18 years long time open the fucking straight you crazy bastards or you'll be living in hell Just watch praise me to Allah

2:34:57 You're stuck in the mud, just a sitting duck Waiting on a miracle and wishing for some luck But the engine's blown and the tires are stuck! You're screaming at the sky like a soul-sucking puck Life threw a punch and you didn't even duck Now your face down in the middle of the muck Yeah, you're absolutely out of luck Driving through the chaos in a rusted out truck You're a bottom beating bottoms just a worthless shuck Running out of time and you don't give a fuck The gears are all grinding, the system is struck You're just another victim of the cosmic amok Deep in the muck Absolutely struck Just fucking watch Watch

2:35:59 The best podcast in the universe! That's quite an improvement.