Big Bully

00:00 I don't know, it could be a cholera seed. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday January 22nd 2026 This is your award winning Kimmel Nation Media assassination episode 1836 This is no agenda Preparing for snowpocalypse Well before we even do anything, I mean this may be the last broadcast you hear from me. This may be the last time we ever speak

00:43 Yeah? Snowpocalypse, the ice storm is coming. We are definitely all going to die! Not here It has been non-stop here Everybody's preparing I have a clip Oh you do I have a clip Wow, I have a clip but I didn't expect you'd have a clip Where's your clip What's your clip I'm just looking at the clip list now. It's got weather mentioned in there. Miserable weather! A major winter storm is taking shape, expected to bring the season's coldest air to date It comes as many communities are already getting lashed by severe winter weather. Here's the report I wish it would stop! I think we're pushing 20 inches, 21-22 inches Residents in upstate New York digging out after a lake effect snowstorm dumped more than 20 inches amid brutal winter weather We're gonna get it for 24 hours straight for sure That lake effect snow causing whiteout conditions Authorities responding to multiple crashes on Interstate 90 involving roughly

01:46 vehicles over a six mile stretch of highway. Officials said there were multiple jackknife tractor trailers as well as passenger vehicles that were struck authorities had to divert traffic and shut down all westbound lanes of the interstate the brutal winter weather is set to get worse for many with the most extreme winter storms so far this season forecast to slam the eastern half of the US with damaging ice and heavy snow The storm, fueled by a blast of Arctic air, is set to hit the Midwest and Plains Thursday into Friday. Then spread into the South and East this weekend. Communities in the storm's path are bracing for snow sleet and freezing rain. A dangerous wintry mix that could stretch more than 1,000 miles from Oklahoma and Northern Texas to North Carolina and Virginia by Saturday night. Salt shipping is very important we were starting to get low from all we've had

02:37 Yeah, okay. So they had the East Coast and Northern Texas but they were... They were predicting it! Hill country, power lines are gonna snap and this is my favorite. This actually started I think with Mimi's boy Max Velocity! Max Velocity! This is a local report Extremely cold temperatures tonight please watch out for exploding trees With what? Exploding trees! Exploding trees. Folks, if you hear loud cracks stay indoors Yes exploding trees expected

03:22 Really loading these trees up with dynamite? Well, the idea... and I love those Nat Pops. That's why I selected that clip. The idea is that when it gets so cold although I went through this in Austin was it now five years ago we didn't see any exploding trees but the sap gets the sap freezes and then expands and the bark explodes right off of it This is bullcrap That's not gonna... And you know what? They've been warning us for the whole week, I guarantee you. Maybe maybe maybe Sunday. I'm looking at the map and i don't see you guys getting much at all! They're just fear-mongering everywhere. But the East Coast will be and it's going to hurt the show well we're gonna have low numbers today too who cares about life and limb is hurting the show that's the most important thing yeah

04:18 It can't hurt the show. Well, nothing can hurt this show and I would have to say among all... Before you go off on that, I got to talk about some stuff I saw locally because you didn't realize and we forgot to remind people that the 20th And there were clips that we've had. It was supposed to be a general strike, similar to Blackout if you remember that one and the one before that where nobody did jack. The no-jack out? There was a protest and it was in an area here around El Cerrito Plaza Wait a minute...the El Cerrito Plaza is like a strip mall or what is it? No its kind of really old fashioned mall

05:05 in El Cerrito and there was all four corners of the main drag, San Pablo Avenue and the Plaza had protesters who I went by took some photos. I might add them in next newsletter. Wait a minute, wait a minute Troll Room is saying it's supposed to be the 23rd that would be tomorrow Well, it doesn't matter what day it is but I thought was the 20th because the 20th was the day that was the anniversary of Trump's inauguration and it was a big deal. And there were all people in their 70s Yes, and a couple of kids because it was a working day and people like Mimi's are floating around She says there's no protesters in Berkeley. Mm-hmm but in the retirement cities like El Cerrito mm-hmm There was a bunch of old women And they had stupid signs and one my favorite one is I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it But yeah, I'd say there's about 100 people which is quite oh that that's more than then expected

06:06 Yeah, it was a good-sized crowd and they're all, everyone's honking you know. Honk! Honk! Honk! You know how you doing? And but there's one old lady holding the sign that said Old Lady 7580 Holding the sign that said, hands off Greenland. And I'm thinking what the hell? Has she been to Greenland? Is she a Greenlander or... Even funnier there was a sign someone put into a hillside in Greenland which as we know is protectorate of Denmark that said no kings

06:42 Denmark literally is a monarchy. How stupid are these people? No, that's what they were saying! That was sincerity. They want Denmark out. Denmark has tried to... Oh that's what they were saying. Stop sterilizing our young girls! They've sterilized it as genocide. Eugenics Yeah, we have that in Dripping Springs. If you go to Austin you kind of by default have to go through Dripping Springs and it's been going on for months You drive... Is that like a gonorrhea place or what? It's the gateway to the hill country they have on their water tower. And there is the same kind of type of character, because honestly who else has time during the day to stand at the intersection of downtown Dripping Springs with No Kings you know all it's all the same stuff. They still think no kings is a thing

07:40 They'll catch up. So I have been just enjoying myself here at the house And by the way, I've been corrected. I always thought it was Davo but it is the... Davos is the correct pronunciation because it's German-speaking Switzerland. I didn't realize that so Davos. I enjoyed you saying Davo. Yeah, I'm not allowed to and people get on my nerves like, what are you saying? Davos now! Okay gotcha. I'm here for you And your No Agenda show, I think came closest to the actual Greenland gambit. As we had discussed that the most obvious way to achieve what President Trump wants is through a so-called compact of free association That is exactly what it seems was going to happen It's called a framework A framework Yeah and... ...It is just amazing

08:41 How all of, I mean here's my takeaway and then there is a lot of stuff we can do. President Trump definitely wants to have big beautiful ships and his six icebreakers up there in the Arctic, and maybe put an aircraft carrier in the GIUK gap whatever. He knew that if he just said I want to do this that all of the EU people would start moaning and groaning and making all kinds of problems about it and meetings and shaking their fists so instead He just pulled this typical, it's like when will we understand the algorithm of Trump? Like I'm gonna take it by force because everybody freaks out.

09:26 Everybody freaks out and then he gets exactly what he wants. This was explained by Commerce Secretary Lutnick this morning on Bloomberg. What did we say? We said, we cared about it for national security right? We said we care about our national security I mean it's obvious that we care about it for national security because if you're going to build the golden dome over the United States of America, right? Wouldn't you prefer the Golden Dome cover Greenland so when you're knocking out the missiles. You're not knocking them out right over your head like we've all seen Israel like knocking out the missiles right over their head with their iron dome. Wouldn't you prefer to knockout the missiles if you live on the East Coast

10:03 the United States of America over Greenland a couple thousand miles away where there's no people, right? Doesn't that sound better. So this is sort of- God! Where we're thinking about it and how our national security team is thinking about it. So what's actually in the framework? Well, the framework is a national security based framework that that's what the United States cares about. We care about our national securities and we care about the shipping lanes so let's talk about the national securities shipping lanes and lets see if we can figure out a framework to do that He sends out a truth. And like within four days, right? We have the framework agreement by that's by the way we don't get tariffs on tariffs off they were never do they were never on the threat of them are coming on for February 1st what does this do now for the agreement you and your team struck with Brussels because the legal implementation has now been put on hold oh I think it'll be put on unhold probably

11:12 I mean, come on. That's why I said it's an overreaction. They know when the president says this is what's going to happen... What provoked the president? What provoked the president was that they sent military people to Greenland I mean, they didn't send military people to Ukraine. Why are they sending military people to Greenland? You know it was so... It seemed like a provocation." Yeah, so Lutnik is kind of a jamoke but that is exactly what they wanted and the only type of framework that exists really in diplomacy or in international relations is, you know, you have a couple of options but the main one which we're familiar with is the compact or free association. And that's what we're going to get and so instead of months or weeks people moaning and groaning and blocking it wherever they can go into the International Criminal Court whatever they would do he just went off the rails I think this is classic Trump

12:13 I think, I agree with that and i do have a clip from Rutte. No, I have several from Rutte Well, I want to play this one This is him praising Trump at Davos Yes, this is classic But I really believe he can be happy that he is there because he has forced us in Europe to step up, to face the consequences that we have to take care more of our own defense. And here's my question to the audience. Many of you I know criticize Donald Trump but do you really think that without Donald Trump eight big economies in Europe including Spain and Italy and Belgium

12:51 Canada by the way also, outside Europe would have come to 2% in 2025 when they were only on 1.5% at the beginning of the year? No way! Without Donald Trump this would never have happened They're all on two percent now Do you really think that in a summit in The Hague as already Alex was saying Sorry, the president of Finland was sick. We would come to a overall defense spending of 5% including 3.5 in core defense if President Trump would not have been re-elected as president of the United States no way it would never have happened so again I'm not popular with you now because i'm defending Donald Trump but I really believe he can be happy that he is there because he has forced us in Europe to step up to face the consequences that we have to take care more for our own defense

13:36 So, it was so wonderful. To me this is award show level except award shows are now boring and dull but if you listen to...and these are just very short If you listened to the pre-Trump Davos speeches, this is the kind of stuff you were hearing on the red carpet. to bullies. Bullies! We do prefer... Bullying the bullies And we do prefer rule of law to brutality So that was Macron By the way, yeah Macron he's bitching about bullies with two black eyes from his wife Bob That was a Macron brothers spat apparently and by the way if you have to wear shades to cover your I don't think the blue mirror shades is the choice i would go with there are other types of glasses

14:26 Here's Carney of Canada. We stand firmly with Greenland and Denmark, and fully support their unique right to determine Greenlands future. We stand with Greenland! Here is the Belgian Prime Minister De Waver At the moment we're dependent on the United States so we chose to be lenient But now so many red lines are being crossed that you have the choice between your self-respect, being a happy vessel is one thing. Being a miserable slave is something else and the message we have to send here crossing red lines here. We either stand together or we will stand divided and if we are divided

15:08 There is the end of an era, of 80 years. Atlantism is really drawing to a close and you know as Gramski said if the old is dying and new is not yet born You live in time of monsters Monsters! And it's up to him to decide if he wants to be monster yes or no He's a monster I tell you And of course everybody's favorite this clip went around Governor of California Gavin Newsom enters the scene. Oh, big tugger! I can't take this complicity People rolling over. I should have brought a bunch of knee pads for all the world leaders Knee pads? I mean handing out crowns and handing- Crowns? This is pathetic. But crowns... These guys playing folks for fools

15:52 and it's embarrassing. Europeans think this is diplomacy, and this will ultimately work. Oh, this is diplomacy with Donald Trump? He's a T-Rex! You mate with him or he devours you And so what crown I don't know what they're talking about Connor him was he talking to you. Nobody's talking about his little crown nobody gave him a crown but contrasting him with our shusher Scott Shusher Besson Shushing down the slopes hey boys Here, I am Got something to say about Gavin. You think it's very very

16:30 ironic that Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken. I didn't know who Patrick Bateman was. I had to look it up. It was a little esoteric for me. American Psycho! I know! I didn't realize he was the psycho stock guy from Wall Street in American Psycho. Yeah and he looks just like Newsom He does look like Newsome. That's a good one. ...strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken may be the only Californian who knows less... It's kind of extra funny when Besson talks about Sparkle Beach Ken. Yeah, somebody wrote that for him. That whole bit was written by a pro! I don't care it's good. ...Sparkle Beach Ken maybe the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris

17:16 He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. And Davos is a perfect place for a man who when everyone else was on lockdown when he was having people arrested for going to church he was having $1,000 a night meals at the French Laundry and I'm sure the California people won't forget that. It's thousand dollars a plate not thousand dollar night, so he blew that joke no Give him a little leniency. This is not his wheelhouse at all or is it? Maybe wants to be he was having $1,000 a night meals at the French Laundry and I'm sure the California people won't forget that

18:01 And I can tell my message to Governor Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to California. We are going to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse. And I was told he was asked to give a speech on his signature policies but he's not speaking because what have his economic policies brought? outward migration from California, a gigantic budget deficit. The largest homeless population in America and the poor folks in the Palisades who had their homes burned down he is here hobnobbing with the global elite while his California citizens are still homeless shame on him He is too smug to self-absorbed and too economically illiterate to know anything

18:51 Thank you very much. Let me know if you need any further clarification. That was good, I have to say it was a takedown. It's Dynamite so... And he was somehow tabled. Newsom wasn't allowed to speak. Oh yeah! So it just in the audience with like stooges. Well, it's Larry. Larry is in charge of the whole deal Yeah, Larry Fink. I'm sure I call one out, Larry no to Newsom okay both Now that Rita clip you played was from a panel, they had 18 chairs next to each other. It was very interesting to hear the president of Finland Alexander... No way! Who is he kidding? And here's what he had to say. Well I mean two answers first it's a direct answer to the question of this panel can Europe defend itself my answer is unequivocally yes

19:43 Without the Americans. Without the Americans, I mean... How? But you rely on them for these key elements how would you do it at scale and duration? Listen to his- we can defend it without America We can do that just listen to this stuff we got man With an assumption that the United States would cut off completely any kind of work Well if we look at defense composure of Europe by enlarge in a country like Finland By enlarge Defense composure Composure? He meant composition. That's what I think too, yeah So how do we do it? We have conscription One million have done it Come on boys and girls! You're gonna fight the Russians! Classic Woohoo boy! We have cannon fodder I hope no one heard that We can mobilize 280 thousand soldiers within weeks

20:33 We have 62 F-18s. Wow! The next question is going to be do they fly without Americans? No, they don't but do we trust that they will continue to fly because it's in the interest of America to do so yes. We just bought 64 f-35s. We have the biggest artillery in Europe together with Poland. We got guns! We have long range missiles land sea and Air we don't have this because we're worried about so-called right So you know the bottom line is that if you ask me the question that can the Finnish military? Defend itself against a Russian attack The whole defense composure of the way in which would do it. Yes, we can okay About 10 minutes later she comes back to him and

21:15 And then all of a sudden he forgot what he said. President Stubbe, I'd like to ask you as well the US administration has made it very clear we are in an era now of hard power and they will wield it where they feel it is advantageous or necessary You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself without the Americans If it comes down... Not exact, Mike. That's not a quote! Yeah it was! More or less? He says he can't. We'll go back to the transcripts.

21:53 Go back to the transcript and read it back to him. No, listen what he says. We'll go back to the transcript. More or less... more or less. I love journalists. Stoop! There's a stoop against you. That's Rocha saying that you did a stoop as in stupid. He is like oh journalist I love them they listened to my words and then they throw them in my face this is not good with his big goofy smile That was, that was like wow. No! The only EU leader who is honest with Mr Piepers? Did you hear his speech? No I did not. You have it for us. I have a relevant clip We are aware of those problems Both Germany and Europe have wasted incredible potential for growth in recent years

22:46 by dragging feet on reforms unnecessarily and excessively curtailing entrepreneurial freedoms and personal responsibility. We are going to change that now! Security and predictability take precedence over excessive regulation and misplaced perfection." We must reduce bureaucracy substantially in Europe. The single market was once created to form the most competitive economic area in the world, but instead we have become the world champion of over-regulation that has to end." Wow! I'm like okay Germany's... Let's just talk. You know it's talk but that's what this is all talk

23:35 But I thought that was brave of him, Mr. Piepers to stand up and say hey it sucks what you guys have built is no good And they're the ones that actually are spending the most on borrowing to spend on military Let's come back to America I know you have a couple of clips with analysis I'd like to start us off with everybody's favorite Anderson Pooper He complained as well about his reception in Davos from allies he just been threatening with tariffs and potential breakup of NATO over Greenland They called me daddy, right? Last time. A very smart man said he's our daddy He is running it I was like running it I went from running to being a terrible human being But now what am asking for is... ...a piece of ice cold and poorly located that can play a vital role in world peace and world protection It's a very small ask compared to what we have given them for

24:36 Many many decades so the only thing the American media could focus on because I was watching the quad screen as it all happened was, man he said the wrong country. The president repeated his false story about NATO not coming to this country's aid which it famously did after 9-11 and for decades after in Afghanistan also Iraq Hold on I just need to stop that for a second the Nordic troop contributions to Iraq famously I looked at numbers up And Denmark actually provided the most, 545 troops. Thank you! Thank you Denmark and they did lose seven soldiers Greenland contributed zero Iceland contributed zero So to say they famously came to our aid in Iraq is a bit of an overstatement He also confused Greenland and Iceland several times

25:38 Until the last few days when I told them about Iceland, they loved me. But the problem with NATO is that we'll be there for them 100%. But i'm not sure that they'd be there for us if we gave them the call gentlemen we are being attacked were under attack by such and such a nation I know them all very well. I'm not sure that they'd be there, I know we'll be there for them but i don't know that they would be there for us so with all of the money we expend with all of the blood sweat and tears...I dont'know if they will be there for us They're not there for us in Iceland, that I can tell you Our stock market took their first dip yesterday because of Iceland So Iceland has already costed a lot of money

26:28 White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt tried to correct a reporter who called attention to the Greenland-Iceland confusion saying, quote, his written remarks referred to Greenland as a piece of ice because that's what it is. Okay nice spin Carolyn. He messed it up as obvious But the intent was clear. He did have ice on the brain, you want to play a couple of your response clips? Yeah well let's start off with the real reason behind all this which you wanted me to dig up so I dug up the first part of it anyway Oh yes! I'm so happy you have the clip yay yeah this is there was a link to one of the presentations if anyone got the newsletter which a lot of people didn't get oh no

27:13 They, including Matt at Martel. Oh, Martel Hardware? Yeah! No... that's no good. So there was a link- Did he forget to donate subsequently? I don't know. I haven't looked at the spreadsheet, but anyway the point is that there was a good link to a long lecture about this in the newsletter if you clicked on the image of the tweet it would have taken right to it and this is the guy who triggered the whole thing This is one of these ufologists and here he is talking about this

27:51 Now, how many of you know about the object in Greenland? A couple of you. Okay. For those who don't know there is a spacecraft that has melted out of the ice in Greenland as you know the North Pole has melted completely You can go from London to Moscow or Russia by going over the North Pole now Right away bull crap All the ice cap is gone The last place that had ice on it was Greenland Greenland had an 18000 foot ice cap on it Well, the spacecraft that is anchored in the center of Greenland created the last ice age 50 thousand years ago. It's a weather machine. 55 miles wide 300 miles long and 2 miles high people that lived in it were called the Moyses

28:36 You draw a straight line from the spacecraft to the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C., through the Yucatan Peninsula Great Pyramid... Wait a minute! Does he bring in the Freemasons at any point? Because I'm expecting it on this. That's good. No unfortunately. ...at Mitsubuchi and ends up on Easter Island where the Moys have been dug out of its roots. The heads on Easter Island? Well two years ago they finally went ahead and excavated And they're all 65 to 85 foot people, full body carvings. And these were the people that lived in the spacecraft that was uncovered and is melting out of the ice in Greenland So when you think we've been alone these people have been up there for 50 thousand years The spacecraft is still active after fifty thousand years It has a 200 mile dampening field where no electrons can flow into it

29:28 In 1947, a B-52 bomber flew into that pattern into the dampening field when trying to fly between Maine and London. As a result of that, they lost power and crashed in Greenland. As they sent in rescue B-52 bombers to rescue them, they hit that same dampening field but they veered off, just ricocheted off it by testing trying to get these guys They were able to bring us circumference and find out there was an object 200 miles from the center of this field Man, there is a career for me. Does this guy get a big audience? I don't know. Huh... I didn't show the audience but sure they were lapping it up that's good It was a good bit. He went on and on and talked about the CIA had access to the thing they're getting all our technology comes from this object

30:23 Oh, okay. So we already have the technology? We don't need to have the saucer if we already have the technology Well I dunno maybe we'd have to lock something down...I have no idea Don't let China and Russia get into technology Yeah we can't have them getting that technology No hey thanks for bringing this second half of show early That's great! Alright so we go on from that With that in mind We'll go on to, let's start with the NPR. I can do the analysis clips this is NPR got two clips NPR talking about the...

31:03 About the whatever this deal is President Trump arrived at the World Economic which one do you want? You got three clips actually you have green and one is just that one is the BS deal Just play they skip to be a skill and go with an old PR NPR president Trump arrived at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland today his insistent push for the US to own Greenland has captured the world's attention and he made news at this forum ruling out, at least for now, the use of military force. We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force Wow what kind of feed did they have?

31:41 Yeah, you know I noticed this. It was like Dave this is really a bad... All the clips of Trump are terrible now i don't know if they're doing it on purpose? I had good audio and you had good product. I don't know what your problem was. Where we would be frankly unstoppable but I won't to that okay now everyone's saying oh gosh That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought i would use force. I don't have to use force, I don't want to use force, I won't use force Trump also ended up backing down from an earlier threat of higher tariffs on eight European countries

32:16 We're joined now by Ampere's senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith, who has been monitoring Trump's remarks from Washington. Hi Tam! Hey Elsa! Okay let's start with Greenland it is a territory of Denmark which is of course a member of NATO and Denmark is an US ally How did Trump today re-explain his desire for the U.S to take over Greenland? Well he said that it was in the Western Hemisphere to including right title and ownership because you need the ownership to defend it. You can't defend it on a lease." He called this a very small ask, but in fact it has caused a major rift with U.S. allies in Europe. And this would be a good time to note that NATO has a mutual defense agreement and the only time it has been invoked was after 9-11 when European countries helped the United States. That's right

33:21 That's right, but they never mentioned the numbers which was pretty small. Yeah they had a couple people help and they also needed Basra Air Base And the French sure didn't help we got mad at them and called them freedom fighters as we mention all of time on this show So that is bull crap okay let us go Is it fair to say that US commitment to NATO has been totally thrown into question by President Trump's Greenland request? request. Yeah, you know Trump has long played coy with his commitment to NATO and has often been quite critical of other countries in the alliance and now with Greenland at center stage leaders of longtime US allies are very openly questioning the reliability of the United States

34:03 Meanwhile, in this Davos speech Trump called both Denmark and Canada ungrateful and questioned the value of the alliance to the US. I don't know that they'd be there for us. They're not there for us on Iceland. That I can tell you. I mean our stock market took their first dip yesterday because of Iceland So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money. This is when was this broadcast because the minute that the market was like minus 600 on the futures and the minute he started talking, it just boomed right back up. Were they watching the market or they're just saying this?

34:59 They're just saying it. Okay, and he is very sensitive to the markets in fact stocks rose today on news that President Trump was ruling out use of military force I'm glad you clarified their attempt because I was confused by his mention of Iceland okay we also mentioned that back down from there was smoke coming out of my ears I didn't know I was confused today on news that President Trump was ruling out the use of military force. I'm glad you clarified there, Tam because I was confused by his mention of Iceland. Okay we also mentioned that Trump backed down from an earlier threat of higher tariffs. I saw that Trump wrote in a social media post said he had a framework for some sort of future deal on Greenland do we know what that framework looks like and how it came about? Yeah the NATO

35:46 Secretary General Mark Rutte has been something of a Trump whisperer in this second term, largely by piling on praise. And the two met just hours after Trump's speech and with cameras rolling, Rutte told Trump it pains him to think that the president doubted NATO's commitment to the U.S.. Trump now says they have a concept of a deal, though there was no mention of the US actually owning Greenland as he had been demanding. He dodged questions about that simply saying it would be an infinite deal. Yes forever, a forever deal got cut off. Yeah I don't know why

36:24 Yeah, infinite. But what was the deal? I don't think there was a deal... Oh no! Well, I have Rutte on Bloomberg also from this morning and the title of the video was Mark Rutte details the framework deal Are you ready to listen to the detailing of this? Yeah, this should be good. What did you do? President Trump has been clear from when he was in office, Trump 45. Also when he came back into office, Trump 47 that... When it comes to the protection of the Arctic with a priority on Greenland we have to spend more energy more time or focus on this because we know the sea lanes are opening up The Chinese and Russians are more and more active So what we discussed last night how in a practical sense We can get this done And we agreed on these two tricks One is seven countries in high north including

37:22 United States working together to protect against any adversary. So that will be something where NATO is heavily involved and then when it comes to Greenland specifically, continuing the discussions they started last week... The Danish delegation, Secretary Rubio, Vice President Vance in Washington to continue that discussion also to make sure that when it comes to Greenland specifically their economy, their military situation Russia and China will never get access So, the only key thing I heard there was the seven Arctic nations. So it could be like a subset of NATO or then call it the North Arctic Treaty Organization and then Rutte had his second piece to this. And Danes in sovereignty is that all assured? We didn't discuss at all about that issue so we discussed how can we protect

38:14 Greenland, how can we protect the wider Arctic region? And again I think President Trump was the one who reinvigorated NATO at the summit in The Hague with his famous 5%. I think we can be thankful for the fact that he again has been able to take leadership on this issue. How can we collectively protect the Arctic? There's latest rumors out there that it would involve bigger bases longer leases but not actually changing sovereignty and the idea of far more American troops. Is that the sort of basis of it? We didn't go into those details at all, we know that the Danes are completely open to having more American presence in Greenland and Greenland is open to that And I think is good these discussions take place with three of them because at the end I cannot negotiate on behalf anyone. I was listening to a lot people I think there's landing ground here but in the end

39:10 Now we have to make it happen. It's what he wanted all along, he just wants... Just let me put my big beautiful ships there and put the destroyers some of the big beautiful new destroyers Let me put an aircraft carrier up there only put some subs up there He knew that if he if he just said I want to do that There would have been endless conversation in nonsense That's it just seems clear There was the whole thing was a Trump algo You know, I'm gonna kill everybody. But really i just want to pet your head. Kill everybody? So yeah he's a madman! This has a lot to do with the so-called polar silk road Oh for sure And they can't let this you know that the Chinese run the place Especially not if Canada wants some of that which it more or less announced The Judge Knapp who hates Trump and every one of his guests hates Trump

40:09 had a funny clip of... Yeah, I would like to get to the bottom when that came about. Trump must have had something to do with Knapp getting kicked off Fox. That or maybe Knapp thought he was going to be a Supreme Court judge? You know, I think he... Oh brother! Don't you think that's something like that? Now as you mention it....I recall there was some talk of that at some point Maybe I'm confusing it with someone else. But he hates him, but he did find a funny clip from the House of Commons. Here's the reaction on the floor in the House of Commons to his latest statements this is yesterday This is a leading member of Prime Minister Stormer's party He's not exactly

40:55 Antony Wedgwood, Ben pleading for the plague of the Palestinians. He doesn't have that passion but it's very clear what his point is. Chris cut number 16. Madam Deputy Speaker President Trump is acting like an international gangster. Threatening to trample over sovereignty of an ally threatening the end of NATO altogether Wait a minute, I thought tariffs only hurt the people in the country who put the tariffs on. For some reason they seem to think that

41:43 tariffs will hurt them. This is interesting! The only people cheering him on are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping We have to finally be clear-eyed about the sort of man Trump is, and treat him accordingly He's a bully! He thinks he can grab whatever he wants using force if necessary And he is corrupt The most corrupt president the United States has ever seen. Ever! Only two ways of getting him to back down, bribing him with a new jet perhaps or a few billionaires crypto account or standing up to him like we would with any other bully. Bully is a bully I tell you but this the UK

42:32 I... so, i have to play this clip because it flows into something else I've been tracking. And this is very typical of the type of Instagram ladies that are being sent to me by my friends in the UK. I love my friends in the UK, but man they all hate Trump! They think he's a bully. He doesn't know it. He's a bully. He just wants another jet. He just wants more crypto in his account This is a liberal white lady reading a British Facebook post The whole thing was like five minutes, so I cut it down to a minute and half. Somebody posted this on Facebook and you've got to hear it! I wish I knew the author because I want to give them credit. All right let's call this what it is perfectly timed economic judo and Trump just ran face first into the mat while Trump is over there banging his favorite broken toy tariffs like a toddler with a plastic hammer on a coffee table that

43:25 The EU quietly did something grown-ups do. They signed a massive free trade deal with Mercosur that's been 20 plus years in the making, 20 years! That's patience. That's planning. I woke up angry and threatened half the planet on social media and the timing Chef's kiss. Trump rolls out his shiny new 10% tariffs, then threatens 25% tariffs like he is upping the ante at a poker table while everybody already knows he is bluffing! He's targeting EU countries because they dare to say no mate you don't get to just muscle Greenland like it's a monopoly property so what does Europe do? Do they panic

44:07 Do they tweet? Do they throw a tantrum? No. They say, cool while you're busy with tariffs we'll just lock in one of the biggest free trade zones on earth with South America! While he's playing checkers with tariffs Europe is playing long-term chess with supply chains while he's yelling, America first. Europe saying fine we'll trade elsewhere and that's the real blow here not the headlines not the symbolism The fact that when those 10% and 25% tariffs land Europe is going to feel them a lot less than Trump thinks And that's impeccable timing That's what impeccable timing looks like No shouting, no theatrics just quiet

44:50 coordinated move that leaves the bully swinging at air. Trump wanted to show strength, Europe just showed competence and competence always wins in the end." This has been the common message, like the EU they took their time. They worked on this Mercosur deal for 25 years and this is the biggest trade deal in the EU. They're smart! They take their time. They are diplomats. They know how to do it but uh-oh what just happened this morning? European Union lawmakers have voted to challenge the legality of a newly signed trade deal with South American bloc Mercosur this Wednesday. MEPs narrowly approved sending the agreement to Europe's top court, to rule on whether it is in line with the bloc's treaties Brussels signed this deal with Mercosur members just on Saturday To talk more about this we can bring in Armin Djordjein our Europe editor Armin, to what extent does this represent a blow for this deal?

45:51 Well, the deal is not dead. But it's certainly at the moment very much on hold because the European Court of Justice has to rule whether it's compatible with EU treaties Exactly! These things never happen The EU is one big bureaucracy That's the whole point of what Trump did He didn't want to go through all this nonsense Man, it's like did they never read art of the deal was it was too dumb. Oh that's just a stupid book I Don't know I don't read orange books this is no good to new good and then we have Professor Jeffrey Sachs, I would say another Trump hater and I'm a communist I think Isn't he a professor in finance?

46:47 I don't know what he's a professor in actually. We'll look him up and he was on Judge Knapp show so here's the haters welcoming the haters it seems just based under the last few minutes that Trump said well we won't take Greenland by force probably if i could guess because the stock market went down yesterday And maybe that's the only thing that interests the president is his personal wealth. And so maybe, maybe that is the one last guardrail that we have. We don't seem to have a guard rail of decency or behavior like an adult.

47:28 to whine about not getting the Nobel Prize. It's something you would teach your children, hold it in, you don't get everything you want try to hold it together but what we have is a kind of decompensation it seems to me at a personal level but maybe Trump was pulled aside by Besant or somebody and explained Mr. President, your remarks yesterday led to a big drop of the stock market so try to say something maybe he knew what he was gonna say so somebody's front running the market as it recovers on his remarks maybe it's all a game in that way but Mike, he has pulled the world into a whipsaw that is crazy

48:23 And it may well be crazy. We've not seen any behavior like this by any American president in modern times. Professor Jeffrey Sachs just put himself on the same level as the ladies of The View. You've got to take some stock at a certain moment and look at yourself, say what am I actually going out there and telling people? It's just, it's baffling to me that they don't... You and I see this all the time. And we keep saying when will they figure Trump out? And you always say never! And I'll continue saying it. No let me hear here is the female version of Sachs. At the tone a clip from The View will be played shelter in place Let me ruin your morning

49:15 Because world leaders just touched down in Davos and they have a lot to process from you-know-who. Cause this weekend he fired off angry text messages to Norway's Prime Minister, blaming the country for denying him the Nobel Peace Prize even though the country doesn't have anything to say about who gets the award Obama phone! Doesn't she sound like an Obamaphone lady from time to time? Obama phone woman. Can you speak to your letter that you wrote the Prime Minister saying that the Nobel Prize has influenced your thinking on Kremlin? No, I don't care about the Nobel Prize. First of all a very fine woman felt that i deserved it and really wanted me to have the Nobel prize and I appreciate that if anybody thinks in Norway doesn't

50:17 doesn't control the Nobel Prize. They're just kidding, they have a board but it's controlled by Norway and I don't care what Norway says but i really don't care about that what I care about is saving lives He said to the Prime Minister of Norway considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars Plus, which is not true. That's exaggerated and inflated. He said I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace. And then he also said Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China and why do they have a right of ownership to it anyway? What he's saying is the quiet part out loud. He is going to try to take Greenland and we need to everything we can to save it. Wow! We just want cheaper groceries. Yeah!

51:10 Let me hear Fawoopi again. ...for denying him the Nobel Peace Prize... Everybody in Cleveland's all minority got Obama phones! Keep Obama in President, you know? He gave us homes! Yeah I think it was pretty close So shame on these people It's just pathetic Everybody was doing it We were just like oh this is a gambit let's see how it plays out What else you got For Greenland, I really don't have anything but the summary clip. And...I don't have much on the topic. I'm not even sure how he's going to pull this off but it is one of these things where is like a squatter you know they just kind of move in and can get them out that's what we're gonna do. All he wanted was everyone to know were gonna do it

52:06 Yeah, so he's got it laid down the frame. The framework he laid down his frame... The framework is hey we're gonna We're moving into Greenland okay? Yeah exactly! We put in the gold-the golden dome up there What are you going to do about it? You know what this doesn't have any fighting the Greenlanders are fine with it If I was 25 30 years old you know what I'd do? I'd be on a plane to Greenland. I'd be buying a house upsetting up shop I bet you the Davos ladies, they're already putting on their mink coats. They're flying over there... It's gonna be a bonanza! It's gonna be a boomtown like no one has ever seen before. Nook

52:43 No, no. I do have two clips from Jake Tapper. Breaking news! Welcome to the lead on Dick Tapper we're going to start with breaking news in our world lead hours after delivering a speech at Davos that was received as warmly As the frigid Swiss air President Trump now claims he's one step closer To his goal of the US acquiring the Arctic island of Greenland which belongs to Denmark Trump wrote on truth social today quote based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO Mark Ruda We have formed a framework of the future deal with respect to Greenland and in fact, the entire Arctic region This solution if consummated will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations

53:28 based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st." Unquote. Just minutes ago the president was asked about this and pressed by CNN Kaitlan Collins on whether this framework of a deal includes the US ownership that President Trump has insisted must happen. Kaitlin got the trip to Davos. Does it still include the United States having ownership of Greenland like you've said you wanted? It's a long-term deal. It's the ultimate long term deal. And I think it puts everybody in really good positions. I love the music, that lounge music in the background that is so Davos like hey man we're in the lobby and nice and chill everyone's like screwing and swooning.

54:17 It puts everybody in a really good position, especially as it pertains to security and minerals. That sounds like a live piano! It could be... let's listen again. You've been to these things where you're floating around some event? Yeah, you gotta dude! And there is some dude playing the piano?! Sometimes a lady with a harp I haven't seen that. Oh, yeah, I've seen Harp Lady before It's a long-term deal it's the ultimate long term deal and i think it puts everybody in really good position especially as it pertains to security and minerals and everything else How long will the deal be Mr President? Infinite

55:02 Infinite, he says. Second part to this. The president also questioned NATO and the future of NATO We give so much and we get so little in return And I've been a critic of NATO for many years... ...and yet i've done more to help NATO than any other president by far The problem with NATO is that we'll be there for them 100% But I'm not sure they'd be there for us So, again fact. The only time in history that NATO's Article 5 which is an attack on one is an attack on all the only time article five has been invoked was NATO being there for the United States after 9-11. The president then turned to wind farms and windmills insulting European countries that use them

55:52 That was good by the way. Yeah, it was fantastic! China, in point of fact has more wind farms than any other country. I think an estimated 20% of their energy comes from wind but... No! The big picture according to three sources that many times Europe doesn't seem true to me either but that was you know that's Jake. Officials worry that NATOs very survival remains at stake they feel an urgent diplomatic intervention is needed for the president i guess a question we all have right now is whether this claim that this issue was about to be resolved

56:50 Is that real? Is that Trump waving a white flag Sources tell the New York Times that during a NATO meeting today, top military officers from NATO member states discussed this so-called compromise in which Denmark would give the US sovereignty over small pockets of Greenland where the U.S could build military bases The officials did not know if this idea was part of the framework Yeah okay nobody knows nothing but I think you're right This is just all a pretext to steaming in and it's like what are you doing? What's the framework ask Mark Mark's got the details. Mark said give them the memo, it still blows me away about... Mark Rutter just blows me away that President Trump is calling him out like hey where's mark? Yeah mark he's a great guy, great sir! He's just fantastic like he's a numbnut

57:48 Everybody in Holland knows this. Yeah, but Holland's a small country. That's true. This was the one little thing he had... He's a numbnut. HR for Unilever! Come on. So we want a piece of ice for world protection and they won't give it We've never asked for anything else and we could have kept that piece of land And we didn't so If they have a choice, you can say yes and we will be very appreciative or you can say no and we will remember. Nooooooo! We'll remember And did you catch the breaking news? The president broke Breaking News during his speech. Breaking News. No one's picked up on it but I clipped it because he's breaking news You wouldn't have NATO if I didn't get involved in my first term

58:46 The war with Ukraine is an example. We are thousands of miles away, separated by a giant ocean. It's a war that should have never started and it wouldn't have started if the 2020 U.S. presidential election weren't rigged. It was a rigged election everybody now knows that they found out people will soon be prosecuted for what they did It's probably breaking news, but it should be. It was a rigged election. Well it is breaking news! People are going to be prosecuted very soon I heard that too No one has picked up on this It does not fit in the narrative for the Democrats For the midterms we can't have that That would be no good Well its gonna happen before the midterm

59:37 I just have, I think two more on the Greenland thing. No no...I don't think it will. Nah? With Pam Bondi's operation they can get anything off going. You're very cynical about that and i understand but I think its because Pam Bondi that it will happen. Pam Bondi is not gonna push back she'll do what the president says That was why she was hired So if he says prosecute, she'll prosecute. We'll see Yeah I know you're cynical but i'm optimistic about it It will be fun to watch we have Maduro He's spilling the tea letting everybody know prosecution is coming You know the minute we see what's her face? Kraken lady

1:00:23 Remember the Kraken lady? Yeah, yeah. They released the Kraken. When she comes back on the scene we'll know prosecutions are imminent What's her name again? I'm trying to get it...I can't think of it It's not coming to mind either She was Giuliani's lawyer Co-host. Anyway, we all know the only person who really knows why... By the way China's 10% is Paul. And those are just showrooms. Yeah probably yeah that's just we show you how it works Sydney Powell is her name Sydney The Kraken Powell

1:01:04 This is CBC. They got a doozy." There is one other significant factor that may have played a role in Trump's shifting positions, former US Vice President Al Gore suggesting the markets may have something to do with it after investors were spooked by Trump's hostile rhetoric. a lot of influence on him. And when it goes down almost 900 points and people do interpret it as a sell America trade, that may well have been the reason he backed down after Trump announced this so-called deal North American stocks surged which seems to have reassured investors at least for the time being. So Howard Lutnick I guess you wrote an opinion piece for The Financial Times and there was

1:01:51 You know how this is. Like, oh we have a special dinner it's an invite only and there's 200 people there so Lutnick does a bit of shtick bit of stand up at this dinner and everybody starts losing their mind like apparently there was a big uproar and oh people were going crazy And he was asked about it this morning on Bloomberg Let's cut to in the snow The drama let's get to the big point the elephant in the room What happened at dinner time the other night? I've heard all kinds of stories booing lagarde storming out at the room, what happened? Oh this is so silly. So at the end of the evening they called on me I just published an op-ed in The Financial Times and so they called on me I gave two three minutes of my FT which basically said that globalization right and the outsourcing of your industry to the lowest cost in the world right had really left

1:02:43 It really harmed America, it harmed Europe and it had failed us. And that we need to reassure and take care of our own citizens. So thats basically the model. When I was done with that two or three minutes one person out of 200 people in the room booed! I felt honored because it was Al Gore. You know what? Al Gore booed! Can you just imagine Al Gore sitting there booing by himself? Yeah, yeah. I can imagine that. Boo! Boo you bullies! You bullies... Man America is great We're gonna fix all this. I feel positive. I love it. I have two clips from Starmer on Greenland that might be worth listening to Okay Starmer

1:03:32 Which one, the GL or the full on... I don't know. It's not labeled 1 or 2? Uh well, GL They seem to be different but they're the same in length They look different Are they the same in length? Well, they may be the same I think it is the same clip Okay Start with GL GL Okay well this is This is rather embarrassing actually. We sent our best five soldiers to Greenland, you know as a show of force so President Trump knows we're rather serious about protecting Greenland. But how do I put this?

1:04:10 Well, well they kind of came back and said it was way too cold. So I asked the Royal Army to send five more but they told me that's all we had so we're just gonna... We're probably going to stay out of this one and we wish Greenland's new Prime Minister President Trump Godspeed on his new venture Okay, since you introduced AI... I try to slip one of these in every show if you haven't noticed. Yeah no, gee! I hadn't noticed the AIs yes Yes they're quite good and these short ones work well just as a production note The short ones work well when they're long and their cussing and stuff that don't think it works as well but this was good because it had just that subtle five and it was too cold That was subtle It's good

1:04:55 So, outside of President Trump and Greenland and the Commerce Secretary Lutnick who is just a jolly fellow. There's a billionaire who just loves life like this is great! I'm rich. He's having fun! Yeah, he is definitely like, I am having fun Al Gore is booing me We're gonna bring back... What could be better than having Al Gore boo you? At least it shows ya something You know we are bringing back manufacturing to America We are telling the old system go pound sand We're going do everything ourselves We're gonna build our own facilities Our own manufacturing and put Americans back to work You should think about that too

1:05:39 There's also all these other sessions and there will be many more over the next week. And I'm sure we'll have some fun things on Sunday, last year we had the Queen of The Netherlands saying something turdy they all talked dumb but that but the cake for AI was to...I think he is actually a historian Yuval Harari Urari. This Jamoak, this guy he I mean he...I can just see him there and by the way the whole screen which usually has Davos logos on it It changed into like some mythical hands like moving around you know computer-generated and coming out of the sky

1:06:23 And I think all this guy thinks is, what can I say that will get me more speaking gigs? Because this is great for me. Do you know as far as putting words in order is concerned AI already thinks better than many of us therefore anything made of words will be taken over by AI If laws are made of words, then AI will take over the legal system. If books are just combinations of words then AI will take over books. If religion is built from words then AI will take over religion This is particularly true for religions based on books like Islam Christianity or Judaism

1:07:20 Judaism calls itself the religion of the book and it grants ultimate authority not to humans but words in books. Humans have authority in Judaism, not because of our experiences but only because we learn words in books Now, no human can read and remember all the words in all the Jewish books But AI can easily do that. What happens to a religion of the book when the greatest expert on the holy book is an AI? Yeah! You can sign me up right now for your next conference I'm controversial

1:08:08 This guy. You're right, you nailed it that is a public speaking gambit. Another use of the term backgambit And you could go on forever if your talking like that I've actually thought a little bit more I've had some introspective thoughts with myself about AI Because I do use it, you use it. I particularly like Gemini because first of all that has some...I'm sure they have some better access to Google search They have access to YouTube transcripts You know there's a lot of stuff that can operate on But let's just be honest artificial intelligence To me is like artificial flavoring There's obviously no intelligence in there

1:08:57 And what we see ourselves with AI generated stuff. Like art like music and you know just go on YouTube and look at all the the art It's like now it all looks the same Nothing is exceptional. It's okay, yeah, it's good. It's technically good as much better than anyone could do but now There's nothing exceptional. You really got to look through and like there something really really good And so if you look at artistry in our own world where we have on a monthly basis hundreds of pieces of art

1:09:34 Really, Darren O'Neill is the only one who does something with it that works. Why can't every... why can't the super artificial intelligence make it all like Darren's funny bits? Because they can't! You know, the songs that we have and we have two for today, they're okay But now it all just sounds kind of the same and this very infrequent that something is just dynamite. No, the sameness of the songs... I mean i'm less concerned about the sameness of the art as I, but I'm not that concerned about it. But and you're right Darren does the best job generally but the sameness although Jeffrey Ray is right up there with him uh i would say but of the hundredness of the music really bothers me yeah because music to make something you know hit your heartstrings as it were it needs something that artificial intelligence just doesn't have now i think

1:10:37 As a technology, and by the way why would that be any different for code? You know if everyone's using the same models and we're doing code you may not you know. You may have one or two people who can do something exceptional with it but this idea that oh it's going to be great is gonna take over the world probably not I can see where having a model running at home which will soon be available within the next two years. A lot of these current NVIDIA systems will have to be replaced for the newest, hottest whatever and you'll be able to run something at home maybe your club or your church or whatever and then you can use it yourself and it'll be very functional for a lot of things The problem is these Silicon Valley companies they always want to offer

1:11:27 to everybody. Oh, everybody! This is the best. Everybody's... That's why they did this parlor trick of your chatbot talking to you and oh I can create some art and I can make my wife look like a queen and all this stuff it's like okay but it's not really functional and it's too expensive I think the mistake they're making is trying to make it something that everybody will be able to access and already, ChatGPT Google they're already talking about ads. And we know where that ends up just ads everywhere so i just don't see...I really hope it works

1:12:07 Because it's good for our economy and lots of people building data centers. And hey, you know what? If all that AI stuff goes away supposedly they'll have their own power plants well that will be good we'll have more energy. What?! I said that will be the day! What will be today? When they all have their own power plants Well that was... That is a promise Yeah promises Promises You are so pessimistic No, I'm not. It's just like I've seen these promises. These guys come up with all these grandiose schemes that are shipping 10 bucks with every query you give them and it's ludicrous or losing their asses so yourself and you know that that's happening if there was so easy to put all this power plants why don't we have a bunch of em already? Power plants are non-trivial they use a lot of energy and they're no good for the environment

1:13:04 But all of a sudden the same environmentalists are putting up all these power plants left and right in California. They've torn down most of the reservoirs that gave us cheap hydroelectric power was all over this state, and you do some blew-up all the dams and they done the same thing in Washington State with all the dams. Oh heaven forbid there's salmon that can't get through so let's blow up a dam I mean come on! I believe that there will be some power that is built for these data centers They have to. And they're building a fusion power plant at Microsoft for its operation? Oh please, they can't get that to work! Well you know I think there's gonna be coal there's gonna be gas... Look if they go back to coal I think they have a shot but did there so much pushback against coal No not in Texas and California I mean these things are not being built in California

1:14:01 in Texas, you know wide open spaces. You know they will they have to have their if they want them to turn on at all they have to have additional power it's just not available so I if they can keep the circularity system going of the money flow I think they will build some plants So that won't necessarily be bad if AI doesn't take off But I just don't see the business model that they're used to working. This is what they've tried to do and that was Sam Altman who basically screwed everybody by, oh look it's a chatbot you can talk to it! And then everyone went okay I'm gonna talk to my chat bot uh my robot

1:14:45 Google seems the only kind of winner in this because of the search. I mean, search is unbelievably good because they give you the sources. Now do you use Anthropic or what do you use? What are your likes? I use Perplexity and now I've moved to Claude. How's Claud for you? I like it so far. I'm still designing... Claude is a little different than some of these other ones that requires to become friends with it. It's just kind of annoying, you know? Can you tell me more so I can make sure that everything I do is right for you?" I want to be friends with you! And it's just a little much... Do you ever say...? So if I have to go look up something right now, I'll go to perplexity and I won't deal with it but eventually I think Claude will be the better one which is anthropic

1:15:39 What I can totally see is a lot of very, very small companies one man two men four men using any almost any of these AI systems to build products software products that may or may not have a marketplace. or maybe a small company that can do something, but I just don't see the massive TAM as they say. The total accessible market that they're basing this on. And now Apple yeah okay they're probably going to make a couple billion dollars a year by putting Gemini into their Siri but you know... This goes against our whole ethos

1:16:29 And you know, people don't want to hear Siri anymore. So if you can't customize Siri and if you can't make Siri your friend and have Siri do different voices which they won't want this it's like I think it's bad for Apple. I don't think that's a smart move let people use that other stuff anyway I mean I've built some software products I'm like, wow. But I know systems. I know how Linux systems work. I know how certain frameworks operate. Well that's the myth of AI right there. You can do it if you could do it without AI Yeah, I mean I can't really code this stuff but when I say I want a play out system and here is how I am going to build it and I wanted run on Linux

1:17:21 And I say, okay. Bless you! I want to have six players and these players have to have pre-fader listening and I should be able to control it with my MIDI controller... I mean, I built half of the system I want within an hour that blew me away but it's not like that's not a product I'm gonna package up and ship like who is the Podfather Linux play out system? No one's going to care for that But how close are you getting to your goal And I will tell you what the goal is. The goal, of course, is getting off a Windows completely and being all Linux. Yes! I would say I'm full days away A day? Yeah So the next show on Sunday No no, I don't have any time in the next few days Maybe Saturday if it's snowpocalypse and we can't go anywhere then I might be able to do it

1:18:14 Even the most difficult part, which is the... Okay well let's give you the benefit of doubt. My next show on Thursday next week will be all Linux! No no I need a full day. I don't have a full day in my life anymore so it'll take me a week or two but i think i can actually get there yeah Two weeks! Two weeks! I'm not gonna let you rush me on this one! No deadline, you'll never do it. No I'll do it! I was amazed at how far I got like holy crap and so I'm coding this and then all of a sudden the thing says are you ready to build the cart wall yet? And I go what?! I never mentioned cart wall So it already understands the concept but then it does really dumb stuff like well since you are heavily involved with podcasting 2.0 which of course there is something

1:19:09 I searched for it, did on it in some other chat somewhere. So now it's trying to be smart. Now trying to tell me what I need to do based on something that thinks that I'm interested at that moment but irrelevant. Oh mind reading! Yeah mind reading But I would really love just you know the real Nvidia system you want is going to be $14000 and then you can get similar performance of what you get from Claude or whatever I would love to have that at home. That would be great, it really would! Wouldn't you rather save the $14,000? Yes but i want to be prepared for when they start charging me what it actually costs... You know the people who have figured it out are 11 labs They charge you, they're not messing around They charge you for what you use and its expensive

1:20:09 It gets expensive because I've been using it for a whole bunch of different things. And like, wow okay so they're racking up bills here. Well it's for church...I built a system called Your Town and churches can become their own radio station and because no one knows what to do if they just type in their promo then the system creates the promo with a voice and with music and everything. And it sounds pretty decent, no one cares that it's an AI voice honestly but every single time you generate something the meter is running they really do bill you properly. That was 140 bucks a month. That's not just messing around with some AI stuff but I think they're charging fair amount

1:21:04 Now, they're probably trying to make it profitable. And for all I know they may even be getting close but i know what has to cost that you know the problem of these of Google well google has no problems but of any of these systems is their trying to serve everybody all the time remember when its first started and you wanted an image that would put you in the queue? You'd have to go back and wait and look like oh your number 30 in the queue your job will process soon Well, that's... No. Yeah, that's when it started maybe about a year ago when everything first started and these first image generators were starting to come out. DALI was the first one and even on DALI when it first started you got put into a queue because they just didn't have the processing power I never had this experience And I was using DALI from the get-go I'm just telling you This this was a thing But it's no longer a thing

1:22:00 because they put all the money in. I just don't see where they're gonna get it back, and how would ads work? How does Google make $40 billion a quarter? What are they actually selling? You should know this. This is your wheelhouse. Well Google makes most of their money selling data and services and other systems that they have. Their reliance on pure search for their for their monies, for their revenue is not what it once was. And where's their revenues? It comes from data selling data and all kinds of back end stuff that you don't even know about. So like selling to data brokers? Yeah that and others and back to themselves Right well I can see using your inputs now that Claude has gotten to get to know you

1:23:00 Oh, John has some weird things he's asking. Let me sell that! I can see that but even then will it really outweigh everything? Will it be enough what are you... I don't know how they're gonna do it. Google itself when it began couldn't make money on ads because they didn't know how to do so they bought a company that did it. Yeah double click No, no. It was a search engine company not DoubleClick. It's called GoTo or something like that it had some screwball name and they were they had very small market share and there were a search engine that implemented ads the way

1:23:36 Google does because it was pre-Google. And so they bought this small company and they implemented that ad system, which was not double click which is different. It was just a way how to present the ads. So you have your search engine results and then on the side it says it has these ads that relate to the search. Then they eventually incorporated ads into the search So it was like you get your results back and some of them were ads. It's gonna be something like that where they slip it in I don't know how they're gonna do it. It's gonna have to be somebody, there'll be a guy out there that will have an elegant solution which is what Google discovered from another company and there'd be some small operation with an elegant solution that says oh yeah that's how you do it! There's a yeah-that's-how-you-do-it moment coming we can't imagine if either one of us did we go do that? Well I'm gonna start thinking about it now

1:24:34 Well, think about it. And the minute they have that then there'll just be another AI company that comes in front of it and executes the AI queries for you and filters out the ads It's a never-ending story. It's a never ending story And then of course this passed my transom. In August 2025, Adobe added some AI features to Acrobat Studio including PDF Spaces which supported the ability to add up to 100 documents to be AI summarized. Documents added to PDF spaces can now use Adobe's AI Assistant to generate a presentation from uploads with options for editing without needing to generate new slides and can be shared with co-workers for further edits

1:25:16 Another new feature in PDF Spaces enables the creation of an AI podcast from a document similar to a Notebook LM feature. The default podcast creation option has two AI hosts discuss the material. Oh my goodness, that's what the world needs! More podcasts hosts discussing your documentation. Lordy lordy I think it's time for a deep dive. I'm ready for you let's do it Let's play some maps. What you got? So what is your, you got Brooks and Capehart I've been missing your Brooks and Capehart stuff. Well yeah it's going to be up there. They have been missing it too because as you know whenever you play the clips their audience doubles so I think we should play some Brooks and Capehart from your public broadcast systems media organization well they discuss Minnesota in these clips and there's also four of them they're short

1:26:20 One of them is really short, only 13 seconds. And there's a wow clip in here which makes it worthwhile this is PBS 1MN Well its been a busy week for President Trump flexing his power at home and abroad to discuss we turn now to the analysis Brooks and Capehart that is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS Now It's good to see you both I want to start with a little bit of news Jonathan that we just got moments ago There are now reports The Department of Justice is issuing criminal subpoenas from Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye. We understand part of that for what they're said is impeding law enforcement as you all know this comes

1:27:00 Against the backdrop of ICE agents on the ground as part of President Trump's immigration crackdown protests on the ground in response to their presence What's your reaction to the latest? Let me guess since one is a conservative and one is a liberal they will have wildly wildly opposing views wrong As we know, I will reiterate this. They refuse to have an actual conservative voice on anything PBS does and so everything is completely lopsided and what you do is... And the way you do it, I know how you do it, is you have someone who says they're a conservative and they just agree with whatever liberal says and that's what we have here.

1:27:43 Well, the president warned that retribution was coming to Minnesota in just a couple of days ago if not yesterday. Time is elastic. Wait wait... The President said retribution was coming to Minnesota? When did he say that? Yesterday I think. I'd never heard him say that at all He didn't ever said it No But this is PBS. the

1:28:43 Democratic members of the House and the Senate that did the video telling Service members what they already know which is they are not. They do not have to follow unlawful or illegal orders now didn't the Department of War already demote The Arizona guy and subsequently Tighten his pension payments, I don't know what the status of that is so I don't know that's true Know they threatened it shook his fist hmm and I think Kelly be bitching moaning more, and so these are subpoenas that have gone out to To the governor and to the mayor from yeah from my AG Barbie mm-hmm well subpoena is a start. I know what you're gonna say But it's just am I gonna say nothing will happen Nothing will happen

1:29:37 I like to see something happen. Believe me, I'm all for it! There's a number of situations occurring right now that something should happen but there is nothing going to happen. Okay, so we're winding it up. So I think that the governor and the mayor probably saw this coming a mile away because again We're dealing with the president who has made it very clear in word and indeed that he will go after people He does not like Projecting much? Okay, so he hasn't gone after Capehart Yeah He's on the list subpoenas are coming unsealed indictments are being opened as we speak

1:30:23 So here we go with it. This is, I think this is for David. We've seen tensions only rising on the ground in Minneapolis. We saw governor waltz publicly come out and call for a lowering of the temperature telling the protesters don't take debate. Don't be violent even as administration says it's going to surge more agents criminal subpoenas For the state and city leaders does that lower the temperature? Not exactly. You know, we're coming close to something like an armed occupation of an American's Is he at home on Zoom or something? Is that how they're doing these shows now? He's not usually... it's often

1:31:00 I think he might be home on this one. OK, criminal subpoenas for the state and city leaders is that lower the temperature? Not exactly. You know we're coming close to something like an armed occupation of an American state by the American federal government. There are 3000 ICE officers in Minneapolis which is like five times the number of police officers and they are behaving with reckless and violent abandon. Barack Obama deported 3 million people during the course of his administration, he didn't do it this way he did to people who were just coming over the border or people who were criminals. This is great! Do you remember when people would... It was like a running joke in movies ice in the whole kitchen empties out Yeah it was The only difference is that YOU didn't hate that president That's the only difference

1:31:50 And you didn't rile everybody up to go and make crazy noise about it. That's the only difference You didn't, you know send Don Lemon on Operation Pull-Up That's the only difference We also didn't really have as much social media at that time It was just starting He didn't go into homes and terrorize children Disallow moms who... Remember that? Do you remember Clinton What was the kid's name The Cuban Kid Oh right, Elia Gonzalez. Eli! They had a gun sticking in his face Yeah little kid It was on the front page of every newspaper Yeah it was a guy in full armor militarized guy with a big giant rifle and he's sticking it in the kids' face Eli, Ilia, I think its Ilia Something like that yeah Disallowed? Illion, Illion, Illion, Illion Gonzales

1:32:47 Yeah, no the media didn't do as much. So there's... Actually that's the best point right there you just That's that's the best example of the media being slanted what you just said I forgot about that fact I've thought about the other ones and the kids in cages and those cages were done by Obama yeah but The Ilia Gonzalez thing was the worst And it was you know they made a fuss about it But not like this They weren't protests and women standing around with signs, ice out. So you said something on the last show which I think was really pertinent... surprising that because you know everybody from Oprah to Barbara Walters

1:33:33 Larry King, David Letterman. Everywhere that Donald Trump went as Donald Trump they all said man we really hope you run for president you get it you understand the international scene because this message has always been were getting ripped off by the rest of the world particularly China that is very consistent message and they all loved him until He left the Democrat party and became a Republican. That's the only difference, that guy is doing exactly the same thing Yeah, it's a cult problem. It really is a cult problem and it's just sad! It breaks my heart to see these people so... you know like your old ladies there running around the strip mall in uh where is it what's the name of the place? El Cerrito. To our post office box if people want to donate through them with a check then go to Post Office Box 339 El Cerrito California 94

1:34:37 530 in fact that was on my way to the post office to pick up the check. The El Cerrito strip mall ladies I mean it's only because he's not a Democrat and they well not even that but because you left the Democrat Party He's a traitor in that yeah, and I have to think that is really that the media is just responsible for that Because the media is a bunch of Democrats and they're the ones who are trying to police the party so when people quit and go off and do something else, they get all over them. They make their lives miserable. That's the idea that's how cult works

1:35:17 disallow moms whose sons are dying from cancer from seeing their kids, breaking up families doing sort of ethnic investigations into people's neighbors using these hand grenades flash hand grenades. It's just a It's an unprecedented, I don't know if unprecedented is the right word but it could be. George HW Bush used the Insurrection Act in 1992 in California but he did it with the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor there with a local corporation of local officials this is completely different This is something that is turning up the pressure and... What was 1992 with Bush? What did what do you need to do that in California for? I don't remember at all And I'm from here

1:36:00 eludes me. I'd have to look it up with Pete Wilson, who is a Republican. I was going to say he's a Republican. Makes something of a difference? Yeah. Bush used the Insurrection Act in 1992 in California but he did it with the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor there with the local corporation of local officials this is completely different This is something that is turning up the pressure and I think Governor Walz is right. I'm not a huge fan, but The protesters are turning up the tension on the ICE officers Oh that was After the Rodney King riots. All right down in LA well Yes, which was and it was a huge mess Yeah And they had to bring in the National Guard and if so long as they do it non-violently Then Americans will see what is going on in their country? And I've long thought if American see deportations of respectable families

1:36:56 They will finally rebel against this regime and not just the progressives, and not just Democrats but normal people who are like what the heck is going on here? And so that's where we're headed. Yeah the ignorance is quite astounding So he supposed to be a conservative spokesperson instead of referring You know, the Republicans... He calls it a regime as though it's like some sort of communist operation in a third world country. The regime! The regime I tell you, the regime. So this is ridiculous product that PBS has put out there. There are people that can give

1:37:36 the other side and get into an actual debate. Instead of Chanel Ryan, you really want to be the K part? No I do not! For one thing it's a studio show mostly and i'm not interested in leaving the house as you know They could bring you on Zoom like they do here Yeah they don't like doing it Because of the sound quality, generally speaking very few people know how to do their own sound. Yeah that's true but you know how to do it! You can do it! But the ignorance of people and all the words get confused like well we think migrants have a right... It's like we've moved from illegal aliens to illegal immigrants to immigrants to migrants and now they're just people They're Americans now Yeah because no person is illegal

1:38:30 No, well we're not gonna solve it for them. I know all we do is bitch and moan no I'm not bitching a moaning at all. Okay? All I do is vision yes you do. I'm very optimistic about About some prosecutions taking place Let's hope for the before you play that let's play the general strike another general strikes being called for these things don't work have failed at every turn, but here's another one. The Pentagon is readying more active duty soldiers for a possible deployment to Minneapolis that's on the heels of the Justice Department issuing subpoenas to Democratic officials in Minnesota alleging they are impeding the work of immigration agents and PRC Kat Lonsdorf has more grand jury subpoenas went out to several local and state leaders including Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye

1:39:18 The investigation centers on public comments both made after 37-year old Renee Macklin Goode was killed by an ICE agent two weeks ago. Officials in the Twin Cities are calling the subpoenas an intimidation tactic, while the administration accuses Walz and Frye of using heated rhetoric. Meanwhile those opposed to the federal immigration surge in Minneapolis are calling for a general strike on Friday encouraging residents across the state to stay home from work and school and refrain from shopping in an act of protest More than 300 businesses have said they plan to close. Well, that's going to be great for everybody. Hey, why don't I just go burn some money? Yeah, I don't need it anyway. This is what the chat room was referring to as this general strike tomorrow but this only in Minnesota...I mean the general strike that was called for nationwide was on the anniversary of the inauguration which is the 20th where we had the old ladies coming out

1:40:13 Well, I'm putting my stock into the shusher. I think Scott's shushing down the mountain bascent and he's the guy that is following the money Yeah we'll do it... you're blocking law enforcement here to subpoena but if they can really start uncover some of the actual fraud and tie it back to their PayPal You know? That would be something! I wish they would I think that, you know we take it for granted. You know supposedly all Somalis and they're putting 750 million dollars in cash in a box shipping an airplane and all this other stuff going on bullcrap And They can't find...you know they're not gonna get to the bottom of it They just don't have the wherewithal Yeah but see that's..I think they do

1:41:04 I think... Let's hope so. I hope they do! I think all money is infinitely traceable unless it's, you know well yeah the Somalis with piles of cash Yeah, that may be a little bit harder but there's got to be stuff. Besson seems... I mean this is what Doge was. Doge was going in connecting into the system alright here's your API you want to track any dollar as long as it's transferred digitally we can see where it eventually went and then if it's taken out on paper well okay then you gotta go get boots on the ground feet on the street. You know what? I'm hopeful about it

1:41:42 Because if it doesn't happen with this president, it'll never happen. Then I'll then I'll just be like you If it doesn't have a with this present it will happen with the President that has you know there is a You know Trump is kind of always seems to be walking on eggshells when it comes to like really using his authority. You'd like to say, well if he tells Bondi to do it she'll do it but he doesn't do that she hasn't done anything not yet so talking about Do-Nothings I will give you this one

1:42:29 We have the Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein...Epstein. And the Justice Department is slow-walking the release of more files I personally think the slow walk is a reason to delay something until the midterms I'm hoping that's it because that would be fun for the show It may just be because they don't have anything or they don't want—I mean who knows? There's so much stuff we'd love to see You and I both. Think about it, just be wonderful for the show. So President Trump save the show! But then we have the Clintons who kind of messed up their subpoena. Today, the House Oversight Committee took the next step towards a full house vote that would find Bill and Hillary Clinton, the former president and former first lady and secretary state and presidential candidate in contempt of Congress because they didn't agree to defy the subpoenas related to the Epstein investigation if you were providing legal advice to the Clintons

1:43:28 What would you tell them? Well, I would have told them to show up in the first place. It next goes to the full House, but today on the committee nine Democrats on the oversight committee voted for contempt against Bill Clinton. Three voted for it against Hillary Clinton. If it gets through the House, it goes to DOJ next where Pam Bondi and Todd Blanch are going to have the decision. I think that Clintons have played this wrong. I think they've showed hubris in defying this subpoena and if they want an example—not saying they're going to jail—but if they are gonna complain about this Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon defied congressional subpoenas charged with contempt prosecuted

1:44:13 they argument that they've made, that they should have made to a judge is what does Bill Clinton's knowledge about what Jeffrey Epstein was doing 30 years ago have to do with writing anti-human trafficking legislation now? But they haven't gone to court and so they've left themselves exposed to what I think will be contempt charges. So the... That guy was right! That was very good analysis by whoever that was. I forget who this is but he was on... I have one clip on this okay

1:45:00 And it's the one that says contempt, or where is the name of this thing? Epstein Contempt. Yeah, gotcha. Happening on Capitol Hill today the House Oversight Committee votes to hold Bill and Hillary Clinton in contempt of Congress that's after they refused to appear and testify in a probe on Jeffrey Epstein Today was a big day for accountability Oh no it's Comer I'm very proud of the work the oversight committee has done thus far on the Epstein investigation I am very happy that we had a bi-partisan vote Nick, you're yelling through your own clip

1:45:37 Sorry. Today to hold the Clintons in contempt of Congress and this shows that no one's above the law, and I'm just real proud of the committee and look forward to hopefully getting the Epstein documents in very quickly and trying to get answers for American people. The vote to hold former President Bill Clinton in contempt was 34-8 while the vote for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was 28-15 The committee first subpoenaed the Clintons to testify in its probe into sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein back in July of last year. Both failed to show up earlier this month after initially signaling they would cooperate. The contempt charges will head to the full House floor for a vote. Committee chairman James Comer said today he hopes that Justice Department can release all of the Epstein files quickly

1:46:28 The Clintons were not accused of any wrongdoing in relation to Epstein, but Bill Clinton was seen in multiple photographs with the sex trafficker. The House Oversight Committee also subpoenaed Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell who is currently in jail to appear for a deposition on February 9th. Yeah the narrative or that yeah...the narrative has really shifted from the disgraced financier to convicted sex trafficker and that has definitely changed Funny enough, I have a Comer clip which i was going to play just to irk you. But there is... he does say something here which I think is the crux of the matter it's not so much that they don't want to appear its how they want to appear

1:47:11 Here's Comer caught in the hallways of Congress. Is it important, is there still an opportunity for the Clintons to negotiate some sort of satisfaction with this subpoena even though you've taken this step with contempt? There's always a-there's always an opportunity. It's going to be two weeks before this is on the floor we're gonna have to notice that this is going to be treated like any other bill We're making sure every I is dotted and every T is crossed because they have very expensive legal team. So obviously there are going to be a couple more days this week, depending on the weather that know that me three days notice and then we can vote on it I've been assured we're gonna vote so that's two weeks because we'll be off a week they're gonna have two weeks that they're gonna theoretically be able to negotiate but one thing that i want to make very clear A lot of what the Democrats were saying today

1:47:59 I'm not accusing the Democrats on the committee of lying, I am accusing the lawyers for the Clintons of not being truthful. They were not in good faith negotiating they never made a proposal where there would be an actual transcript and i don't think anyone in the media would accept any type of interview without a transcript. Then you're going to have notes and it's going to be Clinton's word against my word, Garcia's word against my word that's no good but there should be a recorded at the very least transcript if not audio and video I would argue all three of the deposition that is the law. That is what he's considered legal in court and I don't think anyone in the media would argue against it so the way I hear this they're like yeah we remember when Bill had his deposition member sitting there in that little room as president with this coke can of coke

1:49:01 And he said, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. They don't want to repeat it. He's happy to testify just doesn't want anyone to hear his testimony. That's what that's what's going on because he knows this is just anything he says is never gonna be able to outlive whatever comes out. So I think that's the negotiation now And of course Comer, you know Comer he's gonna be just tough man. Tough guy! He's a tough guy. This is gonna stick to his guns. You know what's interesting is about 50% of our troll room audience which is just a temporary thermometer they are so

1:49:49 I think that you rub off a little bit on them, although you're not like this all the way. But all day it was like... The rot goes all the way to top! Everything's corrupt! Nothing is good! It's all... None of it's good! It's all horrid! It goes to the top! The head of the fish is rotting! And I'm like- Works for me. Why don't you move to Canada? Move to Australia?! You know that there are now trans Americans who are fleeing to the Netherlands and requesting asylum, and they are actually being put in asylum centers with... Insane asylums? No. Asylum seeker centers. And because they're already full with Africans West Africans South that North Africans there's their intense now

1:50:43 So, you know there's all these articles that the Guardian has a big profile on it. Like I just don't feel safe in Trumps America so I got on a plane and went to Amsterdam and said I'm seeking asylum! And the guys at the border went what? Yeah well okay here is your ticket Go to Ter-ar, which is you know the train rail like an hour train or hour and a half train ride And they show up there. They're like what? Yeah yeah I'm seeking asylum as it well this the center is full so you can sleep in this tent That's how crazy people are In fact the president Well doesn't take much to figure that out when you watch Rosie O'Donnell or Ellen Yeah

1:51:29 The president alluded to this a little bit in his Davos speech have a little piece here to embrace the possibilities of tomorrow we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the Apocalypse they are the heirs of yesterday's foolish fortune-tellers, and I have them and you have them and we all have them And they want to see us do badly But we don't let that happen They predicted an overpopulation crisis in the 1960s, mass starvation in the 70's and an end of oil in the 1990s. These alarmists always demand the same thing absolute power to dominate transform and control every aspect of our lives we will never let radical socialists destroy our economy wreck our country or eradicate our liberty

1:52:22 America will always be the proud, strong and unyielding bastion of freedom. Yeah when I hear that and if you hear that go everything is rotten Epstein files these are socialists you belong with the other people get out of the country yep Get out of the chat room definitely out of the chat room hey with that i want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the seas in the contempt of congress say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only Mr. John 1592 so we've done better but it's not too bad I'm happy to have everybody here. The weather! It's good to have everybody here because yes, well i'm pretty set for the show

1:53:29 Because I have got the Jenny, the generator is good to go. So if the power goes and it's like if we really do have an ice storm here probably the power will go out so I've got everything running. the UPS running on the studio and on the router. And you have connection, unlike me... You have a connection to Starlink just in case! Not one but I've two. I also have the Starlink mobile just in case. You never know what happens it's supposed to have a heating element in that dish. I think it does

1:54:11 So, but I have a backup and have the T-Mobile. You have new Starlinks? Yeah, I have the home Starlink and then they...I think we talked about this. Well we have talked about it, didn't know you had one! Yeah no Elon had a deal was like for five bucks a month you get the mobile Starlink And it's only gonna be five bucks a month so he sent me to get all the gear with little note from Elon thanks with five bucks, okay? So if you activate it then he starts... You get charged for it. But- Oh so its five bucks in a Banz. Yeah five bucks in the Banz. Five bucks in the bag. Ooh show title!

1:54:52 That's an interesting ploy. I've never seen that marketing tactic used for something like this, but okay... We probably had to empty out the store or the warehouse or something people weren't buying them but i liked it so i got that i have the fiber the fiber may stay up for all you know i mean the fibers underground So um so i'm pretty sure i will be here i will try I'll try for sure. When's it supposed to hit? Sunday this weekend? Well, they said it's going to start Friday then it's like well maybe Saturday and in other words nothing is gonna happen that's what I'm thinking I think its gonna be...I mean it may be worse of course in the true middle of the country and where they have real action yeah pretty tame but we have you know post-traumatic stress disorder here from the previous snowpocalypse

1:55:44 Yeah, it was bad when we had that going on. Did we even do a show when I was out? I can't remember We always did the show! We've never missed the show! In 18 plus years you've never missed a show and we haven't had to put an emergency show up either All the shows that are like clip shows of sorts they're all original and they're all pre-programmed Yes, Emergency Pod! Gotta do an Emergency Pod We've never that would be a true emergency pod in our case. We've never done an actual emergency pod for any reason whatsoever Right and almost 19 years So those trolls are in the troll room And they are listening at no agenda stream calm or perhaps they have a modern podcast app which is possible I feel this is the year's the year that Apple will do the live streams They're crazy not to

1:56:38 Every radio station in the world has figured out that transmitters are not the way to go. It took 25 years, but okay! So I think they're going to add that feature pretty soon so you might as well get on board now and of course Apple still... Don't they have that feature on their Apple TV? What live streams? Don't they have live streams? No. Live streams of what? Hmm, I thought you mentioned it. No no there's no live streams. Didn't they buy some rights to some live streams like baseball or football or basketball? Well but that sports...I'm talking about radio or podcasts or live streams of you know there's hundreds of thousands of music streams all kinds of stuff you can get

1:57:27 And what we did is, we packaged up the live stream with the episodes in one RSS feed. So you just subscribe to a show or if you want subscribe to a station then you get the shows and you get the live stream and you can switch around and notifications fire off when someone goes live and we've been doing that with no agenda stream for years For years we've been doing the live stuff. Anyway, so if you get a modern podcast app the idea is that you'll get notified when we go live Another thing we pioneered is not doing ads Oh man am I so happy about that what a race to the bottom that is turning out to be Podcast industrial complex is hurting so much

1:58:12 So instead, we went value for value. And Value For Value was a very beautiful system We just give you value straight up here it is in your face more than three hours twice a week of value No firewalls no levels no hoops no subscriptions You just send us whatever you think the show is worth when you feel It's worth it which we hope is every single time you listen to it In return, people do many things. One of them is well we have value for value as time talent and treasure and we like a lot of the time and talent that people put in to helping us with the show boots on the ground helps tremendously

1:58:54 But also, when someone knows how to use the tools he can usually knock it out of the park and oh man, Darren O'Neill, Baron Darren O'Neill did it again. With the artwork for episode 1835 you can upload all your slop to noagendaartgenerator.com but sometimes Darren's stuff just jumps off the page! And this book of yours which actually is my book No Agenda Publishing presents JCD Complains again by Adam Curry, four word by John C. Dvorak and then beautiful a beautiful little um what do you call it blurb? Blurb on the front I don't like it! I mean come on this was... And that you can tell when people are in my timeline like this is great art this is great and it's a concept you know

1:59:43 Anybody can type something into the thing like, give me some funny about Greenland and the no agenda show. Wow okay but when you do this and I wonder how many times it took Darren to generate this one? Probably once You know it's also people will send me songs Like, hey it took me 62 generations to find. Please give me your honest opinion and it's just an AI song like okay you wrote some lyrics the lyrics are cute but I... A lot of the lyrics are written by a AI too often yeah often though Nico Symes uses AI to write his lyrics Yeah but you know it's like what do you want me to say? Oh great! I can't wait to spin it on my show

2:00:32 You know, it's like no one cares anymore. Music is... No one cares! They don't We have getmojams.com which is just all this AI slop It's fun to have on the background But you're not gonna make a hit record No, that's not gonna happen Don't go through the trouble What happens when it does happen? Oh please What are you going to say then I will eat my words but its not gonna happen It's not. I say it will. Say what will? That there will be a hit song that is AI. Okay, well you want to put that in the book and what kind of time frame two weeks two weeks i'll be on Linux but i'll be doing this show on linux before there's a hit song done by ai and Ai has enormous head start

2:01:25 I'm not taking that. Yeah, just saying it eventually...I didn't say- I didn't have- I'm thinking years. No, no think so. I don't think so. Let's see if there was anything else that jumped out? I don't think so because everything is just such high concepts. Was there anything else that we liked? We had no agenda. Olive spray? No Nestworks keeps trying to bring in his coffee cup, which is nice but no. The people skiing... Trump skiing... TikToker Barbie No! This is nothing It's way too complicated Have you noticed this with these models? It's like it's too much They're drawing complete cartoon cells

2:02:23 Is that the right word for it? Like a panel, you know where you have a... Panel. A panel. Yeah, sells it for movies. It has to be all detailed with all kinds of stuff and he's too busy! Give us some feedback John come on dude like if you're the art critic here I didn't see anything here that was worth- I mean it was so obvious that Darren's piece is the best but his pieces are always a little dumb about- I mean his pieces busy too But like No Agenda Crumb Cake is an example of his stuff. JCD's Office, we get to do this podcast joke is kind of interesting. I don't know it's just like maybe he should give a class. Yeah oh we should call that a masterclass. How about seminar? A masterclass yes a masterclass okay. A seminar

2:03:17 Thank you very much, artists. I think it was just stop for a second. I think $150 seminar or maybe a $250 seminar One day or two days if it's two days have to be more but let's just say one day four hour seminar for 150 $250 on doing a I need you do it over the web make it a webinar webinar You could do it over the web and you could and Darren could would get ten people For starters and get the hang of doing this sort of thing because it does take a little skill. And then to see how he felt about it, and then I think you can make an irregular one every year or you could do another one of these and make some money with especially with the webinar where we can just load up with people for 150-250 dollars a pop and show people how to do what he does because he does the best job of everybody without say the possible exception of Jeffrey Rea. Yeah well why don't we do a podcast webinar then?

2:04:18 We could. No, I don't think so. Well see you know what that's why we don't no of course not my god do we can even get anything done the obvious will get the podcast done barely huh? We show up were here were doing it with we do love but i think Darren should think about this what I just said yeah well did is so 1500 bucks no I said 150 times 10 Yeah, but it could be times a hundred. Oh okay now you're talking and then and what is the class how to make art for podcasts? No how to do...how to use AI Art Generators

2:04:57 Maybe this is all he can do. Effectively, for four artists... Maybe this is all he can do. It should be four- I mean there's other stuff. Four artists his song making is quite good too but he's got it down He should transfer his knowledge to others at a fee. For a fee? I think they should have a whole university with Scaramanga For the for the babes. Okay, well I see you're not taking this serious. I am! What do you mean? I'm very serious about this. Okay... The whole university was Scaramanga?! I don't think so As a part of the value for value model, we love thanking the people who supported us with their treasure and every single show. People do it and we appreciate it And that shows that they are appreciative of what we're doing I think where the calm in this storm We don't conform to the ways of this world Everybody freaking out knee-jerk reaction Like oh I'm pretty proud of fact we have not talked about Don Lemon Which everybody Oh! Don Lemon needs to go to jail

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2:20:09 the world's first all solid-state battery in production vehicles that hold a 400 watt hour per kilogram charge or energy density I guess we should call it which seems to be close to revolutionary. Let's look into it yeah donutlab.com because you know, I'm the guy that says all these flying cars and all this nonsense is bullcrap But even before that, even when they were running flying cars with motors it was bullcrap. So I don't think a longer lasting battery felt line car is going to be any good now as a very big difference what you can do with electric motors in aviation particularly in horrors, you know, in vertical vertical takeoff very big difference what you can do with with electric engines and propellers versus combustion

2:21:11 for a whole bunch of different reasons. But if they can really get this, and you know they say five minute charge full charge in five minutes limitless cycles cheaper and safer than lithium-ion Yes, sure. I told you would roll your eyes well yeah hey my big gripe has been battery technology that was promised has not improved these guys seem to think this is battery technologies are perfected in the late 1800's right but how does a solid-state battery even work

2:21:51 I don't know what they mean by it. Maybe they're talking about a capacitor, you know which can charge pretty quickly in a super cap? I mean that's possible yeah, they don't see I do have a Will I look into it and we'll talk about her okay maybe get some clips Okay, but I have a point of reference that we just to discuss. I'll get some battery clips okay. It's some battery clips You clearly want to talk about something else Well, I don't want to talk about anything. I don't I don't know jack you About the donut battery so what am I gonna do? I can't talk about it die What yeah one of our one of our producers wrote in a note Noticing that the two of us were you mainly or me mainly. I don't know because I haven't able to spot it Saying by the way on the show ah did I do with this time oh

2:22:42 I still can't hear it. The only time I heard it was when we were looking for clips from the last show and then you said it, and you're doing a needle drop to find a clip... And you said by the way in there, and I said there is! But I have not heard on this show even though this guy's documented it. I'm glad you brought this up because I'd even forgotten that we talked about it. And I was the first one to say, but I need to stop this. That is very bad habit if I... And I am sure I saying more than you are Well, it's got to stop. I don't know but the problem is i can't stop it because i can hear it! I have yet to hear it on today show last show the show before that I've never heard it except like I said by accident hmm yeah so I figured out throw a couple of these out there cuz you set the kind of things you like to bitch and moan about

2:23:31 We we try to correct it. We don't say at the end of the day anymore No, no pretty much and that's being said all over the place still Mimi's bitching about she says That's what you should bitch about any other day And so that's being said all over but they'll think the two I've noticed that have cropped up all over the place Especially on Fox yeah is To your point ooh? That's an ugly one, and they're saying it constantly and then I was listening to Nick Fuentes on the Tim Pool cast. Yeah? And he's not only said to your point, he said it twice in one sentence! Well... He said to your point and to YOUR point. Well this is interesting. This is interesting I'm looking at the bingit.io clip genie yeah and so you can search by an exact term putting it in quotes episode 1827

2:24:31 It was done 17 times, 1826 18 times. 1825 21 times. 1823 13 times so we do seem to skip it from time-to-time I don't see anything after 1827 which is interesting i don't know why But these numbers are off the chart, and I guarantee you it's me. Let me see... let's do a needle drop on this That's interesting! I don't know why it wouldn't be after 1827 because we've had nine episodes since then So I think it would have been in there Well, it should be cause the guy caught it three episodes ago

2:25:11 Hmm. Uh, so what is this? Let's listen to this... Oh! Media could not be loaded?! What?? What's failing? Something's failing. Linux. Hmm. No it's not- Wait let me finish my little mic complaining. Okay sure Yeah, I know you're not on Linux. I'm just joking yet so to your point and as you hear it all the time to your points we are probably do this Why are they saying that somebody and here's the one that really gall is It's just like when did this show up as a throwaway? These are throwaway lines people use for what can I just stop there Let's just stop it to your point

2:25:50 To your point, when someone says to your point it means shut up I have a better point. I think that's what that means. Yeah well maybe...to your point and the one that is always getting me now this just because they keep hearing it It's they're seeing it by the way to your point I blame on Fox mostly You just said by the way Oh good! I just caught you saying it Great! Great! Five lashes And so the one I'm hearing on CNN is the other side.

2:26:29 The other side, as in the others... I'll get back to you after we're going to come back from the other side. The other side that people refer when you go to a commercial break? Yeah They throw it to it as- We're gonna talk about this on the other side Oh thats their version Adam hold off on that thought and we will get to it on the other side That's there version of we will be back in two and two As Chuck Mullery used to say No idea! I guess But its the other side they keep saying the other side is though they are some So we've lost the art of the tease is what you're telling me. They don't know how to tease anything more, it's just... Yeah that's definitely it I would say that's a negative tease because it doesn't tease yeah but get back to on the other side oh man there's been so many who did no clicking no clicking was that Stephen Colbert?

2:27:21 I think that was Larry Sanders. Oh, you're right. It was done as a joke fake show. Yes. Fake show. Yeah because people used to use the other...I've heard the other side used before long time ago it's just making a resurgence but it's fake and gay is no good. The fact that you have to take a break anyway just be like a podcast and interrupt the conversation like most podcasts. I mean, the Joe Rogan show. It's unlistenable on the podcast and it's in the YouTube too! Just breaks in middle of a conversation... These are those inserts? Yes, D-A-I Dynamic Ad Insertion They just insert in the middle of word No they know is usually when someone takes a pause and someone takes a breath I've heard right in the middle of a word on some of these YouTube videos

2:28:22 Not on his but yeah, but he because his are inserted. I think it's a separate system It's not the YouTube system. I'm not sure But it's annoying and you know this is the big they just had the big pod fest in Orlando podfest You're going to PodFest No But it's hot fast. I mean her Oh Podfest everyone was going to PodFest or it's a podcast and we all talk talk about AI at PodFest So, did you get any reports? Yeah. You know I was talking about AI and video... Video! Video is... Video! That's- there's your report from Podfest. But the other thing is listeners are getting tired of the ad load. The ad load. Oh, I like that term. Ad load.

2:29:14 Ad load in my pants. Ad load, yes the ad load is too heavy and what happens is you get the same ad load as AM or FM radio that's where it's going because there's unlimited supply which means you have to have more ad load to make the same amount of money It's a spiral The death spiral? It is a death spiral And why do you need ads at all I have a report which i have not seen anywhere. It's kind of relevant to Greenland, although not really... well part of the relevant to the narrative

2:29:57 But I did not know this happened. Around 3pm on January 18th, the largest rare earth refining and processing plant in China exploded It was the Baotou Baogang Rare Earth Steel Plate Factory in Inner Mongolia The sound was deafening And in an instant a huge shockwave sent a circular storage tank flying into the air The tank shot up dozens of meters high before falling back down leaving a massive crater when it hit the ground. A white mushroom cloud rose into the sky, visible for miles around It happened during work hours with many people in the factory Surveillance footage shows a bright flash of light bursting from inside the plant followed by loud thud The area was instantly engulfed in thick smoke with steel beams iron pieces and debris flying everywhere The explosion severely damaged to plant buildings. The control room collapsed

2:30:47 and the iron door of the high-pressure chamber was blown several meters away. Videos posted by netizens show thick smoke lingering over the site, nearby residential buildings had their windows shattered by the blast." Did you hear about this? No but that had to be a hydrogen tank or something it was circular You can see it shooting up in the air It looked like a barrel size thing yeah What is the process of refining rare earths? I don't know. Now that you mention it, I'd be very interested in figuring it out because there's a...I can imagine them using some gases to... Well they're talking about high pressure door and all this stuff? Yeah that would be hydrogen

2:31:25 Because that's what we've always heard is that the rare earths are like, okay the rare earth aren't a problem it's the processing of the rare Earth. Yeah pain in the ass. It seems to be a dangerous pain in the ass. So looks like it? So, but if this is their largest rare earth processing you'd think that might be important for the news? You think that they cover something like that. I have two Zoomer gen Zoomer versus Boomer stories i'd like to share Okay And we say this with love and respect for our zoomers We just want to try and educate you. We're not laughing at you were laughing with you Uh, I would run a sales team for mid-sized

2:32:10 the company that provides payroll and benefits services exclusively in the US. Recently I was on a Zoom call with one of my Gen Z reps, and a prospective client. During the conversation it became clear that the prospect also needed services in Canada since we only operate in the United States. I ended the call early Afterwards, my Gen Z rep asked why we couldn't help them. I explained that Canada has different employment laws and operates in a different currency She asked what I meant by different currency Exactly my response so I clarified that Canada uses its own money she was genuinely surprised and asked if other countries also don't use US dollars and instead have their own currency

2:33:01 It was an unexpected reminder of how different generational experiences can shape baseline knowledge. This has to be an education issue." Oh, it has to be! I don't...it's nothing to do with the generation. It's that...I mean that's just but she's a rep she's a sales rep She got far enough along in her life that she's got a real job doing real work and making real money Yeah But she doesn't think, she somehow thinks that the US dollar is the world's currency. In a funny way it is but not the way she thinks No well It soon will be once this stable coin gambit kicks in We'll see The other one was a personal experience and I'm not laughing Yeah you are Yeah I am laughing So I'm having coffee with Parker Parker's 30 he's here in Fredericksburg And we have coffee once a week

2:34:00 He sent a donation in a couple weeks ago. I remember sending $300. Is he a Zed? He's 30, yeah, he's a zeder and he says by the way...I can prove that John is lying! He uses his phone all the time. I'm like he does?! No, I don't believe that yes he does because he even has on his email it says sent from his phone Which is, you know I've been complaining about people with sent from my iPhone. Yeah So i said um let me pull up an email oh you mean it says sent from his Bakelite phone? yeah yeah that's the one One letter at a time You gotta put that in there I had to show him a picture of what a bakelite phone is Oh he says okay I get it Another thing that has just lost its history The concept of a bakelite phone

2:35:01 Yeah, yeah. I kind of like that one. Even if it said landline it would not be the phone he's talking about No but its just... Yeah I can see this being lost It has got to be lost This is an inside joke for older people let's face it Yeah it is Well, we added to the list of things that the Zedders need to get their act together about. Well I don't know how important it is for them to know that but i think it's good some for general all-round education probably just to know these things just maybe me and then another local story which uh... we have covered before i think it happened around the COVID era

2:35:48 I find this to be somewhat concerning, as does our agriculture guy here in Texas. Where did this come from? What is this for? That's the reaction from Michelle's shoulders after an unexpected envelope showed up in her mailbox filled with mystery seeds. In a package you want to open it and see what's in there And then there are these seeds and where did they come from These are the ones that were being delivered to people That's exactly what we got Shoulders runs Little Millican Farms, and she tells me this wasn't a one-time delivery. She's now received several packages each one raising more questions. There is no identification to know anything about them so it's kind of scary Those unanswered questions according to Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller are exactly the problem We call those mystery seeds because we don't know what they are Miller tells me that seeds come directly from China unlabeled and unsolicited It could be a COVID variant

2:36:43 It could be anthrax or rossin or cholera or some kind of other bacteria virus that you can't see with the naked eye. Since February of last year, the state has collected more than 1100 seed packets just this week Miller's office confirmed three new reports 12 seed packets sent to residents in Waco. What if your kids broke into it and or your dog broke into it, and it was something that was poisonous? You don't know the Texas Department of Agriculture is urging Texans not to open plant or throw them away instead report the packages immediately. They're not sending these over so we can improve our crop system. There's something behind it and I hope we find out what it is. Preferably it's not going to be anything that's going to be really detrimental

2:37:31 Yeah, I know this happens but it's...I find this annoying that the Chinese are doing this. And they can't even identify what these seeds are. Oh please! What? This... There's no way they can't identify this. Did anybody take him to the University of Texas in Austin and maybe to a plant guy and say, what are these seeds? And maybe grow it as sample of them that there is no reporting on this. I know about this. There has been no reporting in any ways just a big scare them, scare them who the Chinese are sending us seeds. Maybe it's terrible weed or some invasive species. I'd like to know specifically what it is something well we have the same complaint

2:38:12 That was the agriculture guy who was talking about cholera and COVID. Oh, that guy? Was it an agriculture guy there? I don't know! It could be a cholera seed... Could be a COVID seed... You put that down you get COVID What?! That guy?? That guy!! Nailed it do more of him he's good more of him come on do more Well I can talk like this all you want but as I'm telling you these seeds are no good because they're coming in from China could be anything You're hired. The guy was literally sitting in his truck doing that. I know, and you-I'm in full agreement with you It's very annoying Very very annoying Anyway Let's see... Just because this is a... I think this is being misreported Is this Board of Peace?

2:39:14 that Rubio seems to be running. To me, it feels like this is going to be a new United Nations type of organization that they're setting up I have a clip of him at Davos he had a rather long introduction Davos here is not just the Board of Peace this is a board of action Action! Just like President Trump was president of action Action! A lot of times people like to give speeches...I've been to many of these forums and they are not useless you know, not... they have utility in many cases. But often times in international affairs we often find ourselves at events where people are reading these scripted statements these strongly worded letters that they put out but no action nothing happens this is a group of leaders that are about action and the president of United States as a president of action of getting things done and today is the beginning of that of a new era and a new stage that we think it's so important as a model to the rest of the world what is possible

2:40:11 And clearly the focus is right now on Gaza and making sure that the plan that's about to be presented to you here today, this vision for the future of Gaza. This vision for the future of the region is not just possible and promising it is our destiny if we put the time and effort that requires as I know this board will do but also think it will serve as an example what's possible in other parts of the world. So without losing focus... Where did this come from? Hold on so this is our audience Our audience in the Trome A billion dollar entry, what a joke. Yap yap yap! Heil Rubio heil! It's like... Just listen to him he is completely brainwashed Our vision for somebody else is region I mean this is-I think this is a good idea I like this idea of a board of peace Circumvent the whole United Nations circus which it is

2:41:10 and have a bunch of dudes from countries sitting together going like, what are we gonna do here? Like Starfleet Command. Your thoughts Mr. Dvorak I'm not gonna argue at all because i think the United Nations should be folded Yes! I never used to think that when I was in college at the University of California and we had Right-wing bookshop. We had the John Birch Society book shop in a nearby town and a pharmacist that had bumper stickers all over his windows that were all birch bumper stickers, and looking back on him he was right! Including get the US out of the UN! Yeah oh that was another bumper sticker I recall that

2:41:55 I remember that bumper sticker. And there was two of the anti-UN one was get the US out of the UN and the other one it was com you in ism with another bumper sticker they had. I wish they had those good collected those, so it's pretty funny. Can you put your hands on them? No. Nah didn't think so. All right let's wind this down Johnny boy here I'm sure you have something else fun that we can talk about before we go Well, I have a I have the Barry Weiss is a spook clip that showed up. Oh She's a spoon actually couple of clips this are from Tim pool. This is our

2:42:33 Oh, the circle jerk continues. Yes. And yes it does but Tim, this little lecture on Barry Weiss I thought was good but before we play that... Yes? ...I want to play a very short Tim Pool clip tell me what you think made makes him sound like a douchebag on this Tim Pool poker clip. But they're both really cool even, you know someone told Ken that I was badmouthing him and I'm like never! I said you were my best friend he's a liberal he doesn't like me always complaining about the videos i make but yet we joke with each other we get along He's like... We talk more than anybody when at the poker room and then Salt never says anything of politics because he knows

2:43:15 It's gonna go off, you know? But it's good fun. Everybody gets along! Funny story is we were playing poker—it's a 2-5 game so it's $1,000 buy in and we're all talking politics. Yeah, thousand dollar buy-in would be the douchebag clip It's a thousand dollar buy-in. I just slam that down whenever I have to, baby! It's a thousand dollar buy in. I'm playing poker for $1,000 because I get my money. Yeah. I got paid. Yeah. Actually kind of misleading but... But I thought it was douchey. But here is uh they go back and forth and then all of the sudden out of the blue Fuentes who's in the group he's just one of the many people in this discussion on Tim Pool IRL

2:43:55 Which is on rumble. Listen to this though, this was interesting. Sean Maguire Bill Ackman these guys are not white nationalists now they're like 90's liberals and they get mad at Trump when he wants mass deportations you know so it's not like they became base defenders of Western civilization Unless you're Sean McGuire, who said we should self-consciously pretend to be defenders of Western civilization because normie Republicans don't give a shit about Israel. But if we gesture towards the West then we're going to get them on our side So I think it's very subversive when you really peel back the layers Barry Weiss your Amazonian they only care about Israel

2:44:37 She's an Israeli spy. Your Mizoni lives in Israel, that is what they are about. You think Barry Weiss is an Israeli spy? Oh yeah! I mean if you know her pedigree...absolutely! So after high school she went to Israel and did a fellowship and said she learned how important Israel was She goes to Columbia University where she starts up the David Project and tries to get all these pro-Palestine professors fired in the Middle East Studies Department. Goes back to Israel, studies under Yoram Hazoni at the Shalem Center then... She gets hired right out of that program by Brett Stevens, who's like one of the most well-known neocons. Got to start at Jerusalem Post then Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal. He picks her up as his mentor then he takes it in The New York Times That's where she gets her start Then she starts Free Press and she gets money from Peter Thiel Mark Andreessen Joe Lansdale Joe Lansdale is like a super Zionist Is Peter Thiel?

2:45:33 Oh yeah, he's in business with Alex Karp who said his biggest fear is Christian nationalists are going to defenestrate him because he's a Jew. Yeah throw him out of the window! I don't know if she's a spy other than an activist... He had to do it just off the top of his head he rattled all off all this material I just think you're a fan boy. You love you love What's-his-name? Fuentes when you love him, you know, I think he's fabulous But he's you know, but I think he might be a spook

2:46:14 Yeah, I mean he went on a back and forth with Tucker about you're a fed. I'm a Fed you're a Fed. You know yeah? I thought your fit. I thought you were a Fed in Tucker on this Into the mice is now. I can tell you I'm not a fed for what they's never denied it They're recruiting him pretty young. He's good But you know spies spooks don't typically have the public jobs They're spook adjacent. Yeah, okay you right you're right You could be a different it's different and she might be too yeah I mean for all know you might be an asset. I don't know I guarantee I'm not That's what I would say if I was an asset no I'm not you know and you know I'm not

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2:58:10 It's like a party Coming up, some AI slop for the end of show mixes of course and we have John's tip of the day a big favorite amongst all the fans but before we do that We'd like to pause and find something we're going to play at the very end of the show It is known as The End Of Show Iso. I do have three here...I keep going first Do you want to do yours or are you still like this? No no i like it when your going first Ok well ill do mine first Here we go Thank You So Much

2:58:53 Okay, that's just a kind of generic. Thank you so much nothing special I have this one Oh, that's wonderful Mm-hmm This one i think is actually a winner Of speech! Thought that was pretty good It's got to do with the show but okay well they don't all have to do with the show he just made That up as some bogus rule I've got three too okay let's start with belly That podcast was better than a slow belly rub. Yeah, see that guy's voice is getting really old on me I'm not gonna use it anymore Okay good. Except for today. Okay Darn Doodle? Gully darn doodle what a great podcast It's the same guy! I said i'm not going to use him anymore okay how many times do i have to tell you yeah except for today ok

2:59:49 Here is again. This should have won the Golden Globe Well since it's the last time we'll ever hear him I'm going to go with that last one although, I thought Although I thought that was a little little nicer as a surprising woman screaming yeah Hey everybody before we leave is time for John's tip of the day Now I feel obliged to do a Costco wine tip about once a month. Yay! Yay, Costco wine tip everybody loves the Costco wine tip The thing is that you know they have to pick wines that you know they have a ton of and since they had pallets and pallets and pallets of this of this wine

3:00:40 Then they were discounting it to $6.98 or 99 cents, something like that. Wow! 6.99 cheap. It's a California Cabernet. It's not really a winery. It's just one of these what you'd call... One of these wines somebody put together and put a label on it and made themselves. Oh, so it's a blend? Well, it's not a blend. It's Cabernet Sauvignon but it's like...it's not from a winery. It's from a packaging group called Precision. It's basically leftovers? Not necessarily leftover but you could say that and sometimes the leftover wines are really expensive and they can't sell them. Well, you would never steer us wrong so no matter what it is, it's going to be good. I liken the price point. It's actually quite good for $699 whatever

3:01:31 It's, and it's called method. Method. Meth, it's method! Meth in a bottle, method. Method M-E-T-H-O-D Cabernet Sauvignon California which means that they brought in grapes from God knows where everywhere but its mix of appellations obviously 2022 and they had just tons of this stuff. And I said, uh, they had a couple different wines in the big batches and I said one was 19 bucks and I said, you know there's audience that like to cheap stuff can be good so I bought a bottle to see how it was quite surprised on how good it was. It's big. It doesn't have mega purple in it. You could tell by the cork

3:02:18 So it hasn't been jacked up with a bunch of chemicals. Seems to be extremely well made, has nice finish and nice flavor for the price it's ridiculously good! It's cheaper than those Bordeauxs they've been pushing. Yeah, it's cheaper than that Modavi stuff too I just bought two bottles of the Modavi at the HEB They were restocking Your wine tip... Yeah, the Madawi stuff is good. This is the cheapest we've had so far as a tip I mean your wine tips really knock it out of the park every single time Thank you You should just do wine tips all the time As far as I'm concerned But its kind of hard to do two a week Is it? Well yeah Because without going into more expensive stuff Like once you get to $25-30 It's hard to find 699 wine that's really good

3:03:07 As opposed to finding a $40 wine that's really good. I can do that, but nobody wants to hear no No, we don't did that's like it is like a thousand dollar TV Nobody wants to hear that they we got pushback on that TV Excuse me I love this tip Tina's going to Costco and I think this week, depending on the snowpocalypse and the ice storm of the century. But i will definitely ask her to pick... Does it come in individual bottles or can you pick up a six pack? No its individual bottles but you might want to pick two or three. Six packs! Give me a six packs of that stuff baby. It's good stuff. Ladies and gentlemen where else do you get The Tip Of The Day only on NO Agenda

3:03:53 Create advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCB And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti Yes, noagendafund.com, noagenda... uh, tippoftheday.net Great tips! Great tips In fact I think it's a bonus for people who stick around to the end of the show If you just jump to the end to get the tip shame on you You will get coal in your stocking next year Which brings us to the end of this No Agenda episode. We hope you enjoyed the deconstruction of the media, which was as always they're poor at what they do and we just try to give you straight up the information and the fun stuff behind it with a couple of laughs

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