Episode 1826 · Thursday, 18 December 2025

Sauerkraut Kid

A flurry of executive orders reshapes federal drug policy as the White House Chief of Staff battles a controversial media profile and European youth resist conscription.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1826

About this episode

Donald Trump issued an executive order reclassifying marijuana as a medicinal substance, a policy shift reportedly influenced by RFK Jr. The President also signed a directive designating fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, citing the 2002 Moscow theater crisis as a historical precedent for chemical weapon classification. These domestic maneuvers coincided with a 17-minute national address that pre-empted the Survivor season finale to highlight inflation rates falling below 3%.

White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles denounced a Vanity Fair profile by Chris Whipple as a disingenuous hit piece after the author released tapes comparing Trump to an alcoholic. Meanwhile, the FBI arrested four members of the Turtle Island Liberation Front for an alleged New Year's Eve bomb plot in Los Angeles, though the lack of essential components like pipe caps suggests heavy informant involvement. In Europe, Prime Minister Keir Starmer issued a 90-day ultimatum to Roman Abramovich over £2.5 billion in Chelsea FC sale proceeds, while new MI6 chief Blaze Florence Metreweli launched a recruitment drive specifically seeking Python programmers to counter Russian and Chinese digital threats.

John C. Dvorak shares cautionary tales of being lured into "idiot shots" by Wired Magazine photographers and explains why he was once deemed too boring for a Playboy profile. The episode features a breakdown of the Sauerkraut Kid meme emerging from German anti-conscription protests and a knighting ceremony for Dylan Lang, now known as Sir Dil Pickle.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Donald Trump, Marijuana Reclassification and YouTube TV Quad Screens

Donald Trump reportedly issued an executive order reclassifying marijuana, a move attributed to the influence of RFK Jr. regarding the medicinal properties of the plant. The discussion shifts to the technical interface of YouTube TV, specifically the difficulty of locating and customizing the "quad screen" news and sports features.

donald trump· rfk jr· marijuana· youtube tv· quad screen· executive order

00:00 It's got a big knob! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday December 18th 2025 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1826 This is no agenda The Geek Cycle is back and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the oil refineries are leaving California I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Well that wasn't spectacular news, we know they're leaving. Sucks California sucks no one wants to be there anymore except you Yeah I love it here For some reason... for some reason I see on the quad screens as we speak President Trump has reclassified marijuana As what? As good for your breakfast

00:57 I think he did this with an executive order. Yeah Yeah. Hey, kids! Well... He's such a teetotaler I just thought he'd be neutral on the whole thing. Hey kids vote for me! Vote for me? Weed free weed Free weed kids That's the only thing i can think of Well look RFK Jr.'s there so it's about you know the medicinal properties and goodness of marijuana Which I can attest to. Yeah, you can. For well over...I think for 47 years, I felt very good from smoking weed! But it got real productive once I stopped. It's pretty amazing how that works. Huh? Yeah, I got- Shocker! I got super productive You know this quad screen have you ever watched the quad screen on YouTube TV yeah so they make it hard to find

01:56 It's always... You can put them together if you look at the bottom of the menus. You can make your own quad screens Oh, well all I have tried to do that. Yeah, I've done a number of times but that option only showed up once and I like the Fox CNN MS now BBC screen But you know though they'll put it seven levels down So you got to scroll down and then sometimes they'll mix it up like oh here try some sports quad screens Go most of his sports squat cloud screen Yeah, but that's where it came from. But I like the news quad I think it's because they don't want me to do it They they don't cuz they probably its four streams Maybe it's yeah, of course It is they hate me they hate me because of it you know that curry guy keeps using this feature we got here That's Google by the way. I got a cool scam call from Google You've got a scam call from what was it from Google? Yes so my phone rang it showed up as Google in the

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Google Safety Scam, Sophisticated Phishing Tactics

A host describes a sophisticated social engineering attempt involving a caller spoofing Google Safety and Security. The scammer utilized sites.google.com to host a fake ticket-closing portal and attempted to verify legitimacy by citing the host's MX records and sending spoofed emails from no-reply@google.com. The interaction ended when the host challenged the scammer to send an email from a corporate @google.com address.

google· phishing· scam· sites.google.com· mx record· social engineering

03:01 in the screen, which I thought was... It says Google right? It says Google. Yeah and of course right away i knew this can never be google because google doesn't call anybody ever. And you can't call them! No so I answered it's a machine saying we have an illegal login from Toronto if this was you you can hang up if it wasn't you press one like I'm in a good mood 1 A representative will call you back Okay, ooh that's plus mm-hmm and so maybe a minute later I get a call from also from a 650 number which the first one was six five zero as well But this didn't have didn't say Google. So that was little minus point And I'm and I'm kicking myself. I should have recorded it a very well spoken young lady on the phone

03:51 and she was from Google safety and security team, and we see this log in. Was that you? I said, no it wasn't from Toronto. And she had my phone number and she had my adammccurry.com email address... Right there's the dossier and everybody they yeah and it floats around so they all have it don't be surprised that they have your address So I just want to know of course not so but I just wanted to see how far we could go But it was not like some Indian chappie, you know. It sounded like a white woman... So it wasn't some Indian guy named Steve? No! And she was very pleasant as we understand Mr. Curry and yeah let's get this resolved and I said well did they get my password she says no they didn't get your password because I see

04:48 two-factor authentication on your account. Okay, so well good thanks for keeping me safe see the only thing we need to do is because this person keeps opening tickets in our trouble ticket system we need you to close it out Oh, okay. This is a good one I haven't have not this is a very creative so how do I do that? I want you to go to the following address sites. It's always here right here we go hello site dot google.com slash close dash ticket like and I say to her yeah but that just where you can host the public website on Google I mean that doesn't sound very official

05:36 He said, did you type it in? I said yeah i did. Okay now can you close the ticket? I said I can't. Says oh why not say have a login screen Oh yeah just login! I'm like that doesn't seem like a good idea ma'am Like, if this is just a public website then you might capture my email address and my password. I like the use of sites.google.com because it does... because if your naive about it... It gives you confidence Because its got google.com in there even though it's like some obviously some... Yeah! I said well maybe you should show me that your really from Google Well I just sent you an email with your code So I look at my email

06:11 from no-reply at google.com, okay? It's spoofed I didn't look at the headers but i knew it was spoofed and no link to do anything with this okay i got a code so now can you close out the ticket with that cause yeah but i'm not going to log into sites.google.com And I said, what email address did you send this to? To adammccurry.com He said that's not my Google email, my Gmail address Well yes it is! No... Yes, you have your site hosted by Google Workspace Okay so now she's in deep water Because i don't obviously and In fact I've been very careful never to link my adammmccurry.com to Gmail or anything like that

06:55 I said, but it's not. Yes it is she's arguing with me now yes your site is hosted by Google workspace I see the MX record whoa! Now that's sophisticated said so you yes I see the MX record has our email servers now This is not true. And I read her the MX record as I pull it up, and say you know what? I'll make it okay with you just send me an email from you at a google dot com email address not gmail or Google and then I'd be more inclined to believe you now but that point we're 15-20 minutes in she hung up

07:36 But for... Oh, she just hung up. Yes, oh yeah, just disconnected didn't even say anything. Yeah she probably kicked herself for talking to you at all. She didn't say you a-hole or anything. I like it when they cuss ya out! Yeah now she just gave up but in general i'd say it's pretty sophisticated That sounds pretty good, yeah. I like that one. From a confidence... And then like the sites on Google, excellent work! Yeah, but good work foiled again but man it just shows you how crap everything is. It really- Everything sucks the whole internet everything just blows. It always has

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Susie Wiles, Vanity Fair Hit Piece Analysis

White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles is the subject of a multi-part Vanity Fair profile by author Chris Whipple based on eleven interviews. Major news networks highlighted Wiles' comments comparing Donald Trump’s personality to that of an alcoholic and her labeling JD Vance a conspiracy theorist. Wiles later characterized the article as a disingenuously framed hit piece, while Trump publicly maintained support for her performance.

susie wiles· vanity fair· chris whipple· donald trump· jd vance· mark guiducci

08:14 It's gotten worse. This is the beginning of Usenet since they banned advertising. Here we go! Started with Usenet, they let advertisers in That's where it all started Oh man So we have a couple things that we can address right off the bat I would suggest either...since you have a 3x3 Maybe we should start with With Wiles because I think that yeah, this is kind of cute. This is Susie Wiles Let me play the jingle for now. It's time for three by three experiment by JCB comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC

08:55 I'm sure you do because I do too everybody does everybody's got thoughts and the thing is it's like was this a plant which was just done on purpose was Susie Wells naive because everybody goes around the table saying, well she should have known better to talk to Vanity Fair. They're out too they're just a bunch of screwballs that hate Republicans and she shouldn't have done the interview and then somebody else brings up what she got. She did 11 interviews it wasn't just one no it was almost a year I think she was talking to him so she's yakking away for awhile and then nobody stabbed her in the back after the thing came out which was Kelly McEnany said that most remarkable thing was typically when

09:40 When somebody is wounded in one of these hit pieces, a bunch of stuff starts showing up about it. People behind the scenes say yeah she's worse than that if you bap bap bap bap and none of that occurred so she thought that was pretty good which makes me think this whole thing is an op And then you had comeback lines from both J.D. Vance and Trump that were stunners, yeah? I mean Trump's was the best but J.D. Vance's little thing on conspiracy theories is fabulous Well can i just frame this for a moment because it's vanity fair

10:17 The editor, global editorial director Mark Guiducci. Yes, Guaducci born in America but educated in London considers himself to be British Polish as part of his background he has the global mandate for the as global editorial director And under Gwoduchi's leadership, Vanity Fair has leaned back into its roots as the primary chronicler of British monarchy for an American audience. The Royal Watch tradition... Where did you get that quote? From Google. Oh! Well that's okay so yes I can appreciate that. North Sea Nexus. Yeah boom. Hit job total hit but remember he's under Anna Wintour's oversight

11:09 She's the worst. Teen Vogue became a Marxist magazine, they had to fold it finally. LGBTQ nut job magazine? Well mostly but Marxists... They actually have articles on why Marxism is great in Teen Vogue So this is to me this is a typical North Sea Nexus hit job Yeah, but I don't think it worked. No! But a long game though...long game. It's just one of those things you throw this stuff and you pile on so the media or the mainstream 3x3 people they come in not totally in the bag for it

11:54 But and it's semi-balanced, but let's listen to these three networks talk about the same thing starting with ABC. She is President Trump's most powerful and trusted aide more comfortable behind the scenes than in the spotlight. Suzy likes to stay sort of in the back let me tell you The ice baby we call her The Ice Baby But tonight, White House Chief of Staff Suzy Wiles pulling back the curtain in an extraordinary series of interviews with Vanity Fair. Wiles who says her father was an alcoholic describes her boss the president as having an alcoholic's personality noting that Trump who does not drink operates with a view that there is nothing he can't do nothing zero and nothing

12:36 Wiles also has choice words for Vice President J.D. Vance, discussing the push to release the FBI files into sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Wiles says Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade. Vance today responding sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist but i only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true Wiles also points a finger at Attorney General Pam Bondi. Wow, they didn't play the whole bit where he said he talked about the different conspiracy theories that's... No that the whole thing where it goes on Biden gave him an opportunity to go off yeah It was momentous and the networks of course... No, no we're not going to play that. We can't play that. They're not gonna play that. Wiles also points a finger at Attorney General Pam Bondi saying Bondi completely whiffed her handling of demands to release the files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Wiles telling Vanity Fair there is no client list and it sure as hell wasn't on Bondis desk

13:31 She does acknowledge the president himself is in the Epstein files, but not doing anything awful. She says the two men were sort of young single playboys together. I never went to the island and Bill Clinton went there supposedly 28 times. She also says this claim about Clinton is not true while telling Vanity Fair there is no evidence Clinton ever visited private Island And David Wiles also acknowledges that the president has sought retribution against some of his enemies, saying quote when there's an opportunity he will go for it. Tonight Wiles calls the article a disingenuously framed hit piece though she doesn't deny saying these things It warrants mentioning that Chris Whipple who did this article He literally wrote the book on previous chiefs-of-staff

14:27 So I think there was probably a little bit of pride or ego something going on there with Suzy Wiles. You know, and I forget what the book is called but he went back and interviewed like 20 different chiefs of staff for presidents And it was a well-received book, so he came with credentials. He had credentials but doesn't mean even the most credentialed journalist will do a hit piece for money Of course! That's what you do Yes You'd do it? I'd do it? You did it all the time Well, you are the Mac hitman. I'm gonna shoot those Mac back. I was hired to do nasty pieces of that magazine said anti-editor yes who made people have ever held that title you are an amazing man oh yeah it's astonishing

15:25 We'll move alphabetical order, we go to CBS. Suzy Wiles offered a stunning assessment of the central characters in the White House starting with her boss saying President Trump has an alcoholic's personality A notable comment from the daughter of NFL and CBS sports legend Pat Summerall who famously struggled with alcoholism He was a drunk! Wiles says Trump has a view that there is nothing he can't do Nothing Zero Nothing As for Vice President Vance, Wiles says he's been a conspiracy theorist for a decade He made light of the comet today in Pennsylvania. Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true. Wiles also had words for Elon Musk she called an avowed ketamine user an odd, odd duck

16:09 It's mostly just a lot of hard work. And she said she was initially aghast when Musk dismantled USAID as part of his cost-cutting Doge program No rational person could think the USAID process was a good one, she said Nobody On the Jeffrey Epstein scandal that has dogged The White House Wiles said the president wasn't telling the truth when he accused former President Bill Clinton Of visiting the convicted sex offenders' private island There is no evidence She said The president was wrong about that The White House today tried to discredit author Chris Whipple who says he conducted 11 interviews with Wiles over the course of a year. This is unfortunately another example of disingenuous reporting where you have a reporter who took the chief of staff's words wildly out of context, did not include those conversations

16:56 were had within. Wiles also pointed to moments where she tried unsuccessfully to change the president's mind She urged him not depart in the most violent offenders during January 6th insurrection, hold off on imposing massive tariffs on US allies this past spring and end his score settling against critics after 90 days in office. Wiles is popular across the administration and close with the President called the article a quote disingenuously framed hit piece And what does the president make of all this? Well, he told The New York Post this afternoon quote she's done a fantastic job. So as a former hit man, hit piece writer hired gun how does this work do you is do they just really pull quotes out of context because I can see where she might have said well JD Vance is a conspiracy theorist but man has been right a couple of times

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

John C. Dvorak, Media Hit Piece Anecdotes

John C. Dvorak recounts personal experiences with media hit pieces, including a profile in Wired Magazine orchestrated by Nicholas Negroponte following Dvorak's criticism of the MIT Media Lab. He warns against allowing photographers to manipulate subjects into posing for "idiot" shots. A separate anecdote involves an aborted Playboy profile by writer David Renson that was canceled because Dvorak was deemed too boring for the format.

nicholas negroponte· wired magazine· playboy· paulina borsuk· mit media lab

17:51 Is that how it's done? You just take that piece and you put that in? Yeah, you just... It's selective editing. Citation. Mm-hmm. So yeah. It's very common I mean I had a hit piece done on me and I know why it was done. I've been doing pieces on you for 18 years! Yeah but you're no good at it. Well tell us about the this is another story I don't know tell us about the hit piece I had written a very nasty remark, some nasty remarks about Negroponte. No not that Negroponte. The one that was running the MIT Media Lab. Nicholas Negroponte? Nicholas. I wrote a scathing article about the whole lab being a big phony baloney operation

18:39 And I put it, it was in the Deck Professional. A very minor magazine that only aficionados read and Negroponte ended up at some position or other at Wired. Mm-hmm. I remember that now. So to get back at me he had Paulina Borsuk do a hit piece on me. What did it say? Well, Polina could never pull it off. I took her to a wine and dined her. She's a vegan or vegetarian. I took her to a vegetarian restaurant to talk over some of the stuff. It just...I did...I can put on a charm offensive

19:24 But did you know she was going to write a hit piece? No, it was... She hinted at me that she was writing a hit piece. Well that's not right! No no it didn't work out and they try and the piece was semi-successful in a couple of moments But it didn't get didn't do it. It didn't we was exactly big became a pretty compliment Let me guess it's like he was wrong about the mouse He was wrong about the iPad. He's no good It wasn't like it was similar, but it was it but it was in what they ran it as a profile and wired

20:03 And they brought out a photographer to make me look like an idiot. He wanted me to do something. By the way, this is for anybody who wants their profile done. Put on the clown nose! It'll be great! I didn't for anybody out there, you know this more than anybody probably but you have to when your having your photo taken for some article or something do not let the photographer badger you into stupid stuff. Yeah. Say no! Why don't you hold this mouse upside down? It'll look great in the shot. Can you stick your tongue out? Yeah, oh there's a there's another good one Yes, can you stick your tongue out Oh looked really surprised so So I avoided that part of it now good for you And so he still got is still got a funny picture of me But if it was okay if I catch actually it was so interesting the photo I had them send me a copy so

21:01 So, um... All right. Back to the hit piece from Vanity Fair? So this so yes it's very easy to do as you know it doesn't take a and if your going to 11 interviews you can get more than enough material to do a beautiful hit piece They never needed to do a hit piece on you just rerun the YouTube video of you trying to put that IBM PC back together That's my favorite. It should work, hold on a second I just need a screwdriver and a soldering iron. I can do this it should fit No they all snap back into place with dynamite Except that one It's a great clip Hey if that's all that you did wrong

21:43 You know, beside the mouse and iPad thing. In terms of... I'll give you another story about me. So David Renson who used to do these profiles he used to be the writer for Playboy magazine And somehow along the lines when I was cranking out all these books, Rensen got...I was targeted to be profiled by Playboy in this 40 questions. They had some gimmicky thing called 20 questions or something. Yeah! It's like you think you're gonna be the main interview but you're not I don't know what, it doesn't matter. Because Renson comes over and we end up talking about writing and all kinds of stuff and eventually he turns out to which I told him, I said I'm actually kind of boring for this sort of article you're not gonna be very good. And he agreed. He agreed! It never got written up on me and it was fine with me.

22:41 Alright, I got some clips on this too. So let's play NBC and see if they had the same story Same story same clip okay? Remarkably revealing comments about President Trump from his chief of staff Susie Wiles a relationship so close The president recently suggested she's part of the family Do you know Suzy Trump? Sometimes referred to as Suzy Wiles, Suzy Trump. But tonight she's facing new scrutiny for a series of interviews with Vanity Fair about criticism the president is targeting perceived political enemies. Wiles says I don't think he wakes up thinking about retribution but when there is an opportunity he will go for it She also says President Trump who does not drink has an alcoholic personality fifth

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

JD Vance, Conspiracy Theory Defense and Media Framing

JD Vance responded to the Susie Wiles interview by claiming he only believes in "conspiracy theories that are true," citing past skepticism regarding COVID-19 masking and Joe Biden's cognitive health. Former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki noted a Washington tradition where former chiefs of staff advise newcomers, claiming Reince Priebus specifically warned Wiles not to speak to author Chris Whipple.

jd vance· conspiracy theories· joe biden· covid-19· jen psaki· ryan priebus

21:43 You know, beside the mouse and iPad thing. In terms of... I'll give you another story about me. So David Renson who used to do these profiles he used to be the writer for Playboy magazine And somehow along the lines when I was cranking out all these books, Rensen got...I was targeted to be profiled by Playboy in this 40 questions. They had some gimmicky thing called 20 questions or something. Yeah! It's like you think you're gonna be the main interview but you're not I don't know what, it doesn't matter. Because Renson comes over and we end up talking about writing and all kinds of stuff and eventually he turns out to which I told him, I said I'm actually kind of boring for this sort of article you're not gonna be very good. And he agreed. He agreed! It never got written up on me and it was fine with me.

22:41 Alright, I got some clips on this too. So let's play NBC and see if they had the same story Same story same clip okay? Remarkably revealing comments about President Trump from his chief of staff Susie Wiles a relationship so close The president recently suggested she's part of the family Do you know Suzy Trump? Sometimes referred to as Suzy Wiles, Suzy Trump. But tonight she's facing new scrutiny for a series of interviews with Vanity Fair about criticism the president is targeting perceived political enemies. Wiles says I don't think he wakes up thinking about retribution but when there is an opportunity he will go for it She also says President Trump who does not drink has an alcoholic personality fifth

23:44 and and So first I want to play some of those actual JD Vance quotes because they were funny. And of course no one picked it up

24:35 But here's his full answer. They literally cut this part out in that NBC piece. Well, first of all if Susie... I'll trust what you said. I haven't looked at the article and of course have heard about it but conspiracy theorists- That was very slick! I think that is very slick what he said there because most of them say, ''I haven't read the article!'' Which of course he has, but instead he says I'm familiar with it. I haven't read the article because i am a busy man and vice president But you know of course I'm familiar with that That is the way you address that Instead of saying I poured over my cornflakes which you know we did Because of course she did Like I'll trust what you said I haven't looked at the article Of course have heard about it But conspiracy theorist

25:25 Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true. Crowd goes wild! And by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public about that for a long time. For example, I believed in the crazy conspiracy theory back in 2020 that it was stupid to mask three year olds at the height of the COVID pandemic- That we should actually let them develop some language skills. You know, I believe in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media and the government were covering up the fact that Joe Biden was clearly unable to do the job

26:06 And I believed in the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was trying to throw his political opponents in jail rather than win an argument against this political opponent. So at least on some of these conspiracy theories, it turns out that a conspiracy theory is just something that was true six months before the media admitted it and that's my understanding. It was good. That was excellent. Yeah yeah I thought it was very good but of course that never saw the light of day who cares? Jen Psaki had an interesting comment in her...

26:46 Has anyone watched that show? Do we even know when it's on? No, pretty much. The only people who have watched the show are gut-filled. Well here we go... Let me start with this there is a little known tradition in Washington whenever new administration takes office the new president's incoming chief of staff has dinner with all the previous chiefs of staff usually one of them hosted at their house or at a restaurant or whatever whoever may be and she's just to ask from both parties attend And they all do this so that they can offer advice to the new incoming chief of staff on how to prepare for the role. It's kind of a nice tradition through multiple different administrations of both parties. Everyone on MSNBC, you'll hear a couple more, but they all sound sick. There is a bug going around at NBC!

27:31 They're sick. You'll hear... That could be, if it makes sense. Yeah they're all sick And when Trump won the election last year his new chief of staff Susie Wiles reportedly attended one of those dinners too They each went around the table giving her tips as they normally do for how to do the job. And when they got to Trump's first chief of staff, Ryan's previous he had just one piece of advice for Susie Wiles just one He told her quote don't talk to Whipple Yeah, well there you go she was warned now I have to add Don't talk to Whipple Now that is funny yeah it's very funny

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

Chris Whipple, Anderson Cooper Interview on Wiles Tapes

Author Chris Whipple appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper to defend his Vanity Fair profile of Susie Wiles, asserting that all controversial quotes are recorded on tape. Whipple noted that Wiles was surprisingly unguarded during their eleven months of interviews. The segment highlights a slip of the tongue where Whipple refers to Wiles as his "target" rather than his subject.

chris whipple· anderson cooper· vanity fair· susie wiles· elon musk· tapes

28:14 At the behest of the troll room, we have to say that Suzy Wiles worked for Netanyahu so it's possible she is a Mossad agent and is trying single-handedly to bring down the president. Just have to mention that. So don't talk to Whipple Well, the person who did talk to Whipple is our own British agent Anderson Pooper. Joining me now is Chris Whipple in his first broadcast interview since his two-part Vanity Fair piece landed he's also the author of The New York Times bestseller The Gatekeepers. It landed like a lead balloon! How the White House chiefs of staff define every presidency Chris thanks for being with us great to be here lots to talk about first of all of all the things Sweetie Wilds told you what surprised you most?

28:58 You know, Anderson this was one of those cases as a reporter in your career when lightning strikes. And it was astonishing to me the extent to which she was unguarded and freewheeling on the record all the time I've covered... As you know I wrote a book about the Biden White House where everybody was on deep background requiring quote approval Quite the opposite in this case. Susie Wiles, in 11 interviews over 11 months... That's how many there were? Eleven interviews over eleven months? Eleven in-depth interviews in which she was on the record everything in the article is uh... was on the record Were you recording every interview? I recorded every interview Even ones that weren't on the phone There she was wondering if she was doing laundry apparently Yeah Everything is on tape Did she know this was for Vanity Fair or did she think it was for a long term book

29:48 that you were doing? She knew I was working on a book at the outset. When i told her that Vanity Fair had agreed to do a piece, to publish a piece she was all in and enthusiastic about it okay so show some transparency from the Trump White House. Yeah yeah I'm gonna do laundry! You can talk to me Whipple no problem Why? Because she is legendarily averse to being out front. That's why I say that this was lightning striking it, it's amazing to me first of all I think that she is the most fascinating person in American politics not only because she ran a brilliant campaign and brought Trump back from the dead to win the 2024 election and she's the first female White House Chief of Staff

30:34 But in addition, she's kind of the Greta Garbo of White House chiefs. She is never on camera, rarely on camera hardly ever gives interviews and yet she did I think it's because all I can tell you is what she told me She felt that Trump 1.0 had been unfairly covered The Trump was vilified during the first administration During the first administration she wanted a fair hearing and I think she thought if she would get one Yeah, she thought she would get one. She thought she would get one! Yes now in this next clip he slips up and the truth comes out Here's the fascinating thing and that is not only is there this amazing 11 month journey that I document of Suzy Wiles through this whole period but it really goes all the way back to her childhood and her famous father Pat Summerall

31:24 who was an alcoholic. She organized interventions with her mother to get treatment for him, he was sober for 21 years but she learned how to deal with difficult men. It is a fascinating data point that I mean I certainly didn't know about her that you know adult children of people who grew up with alcoholics are, I mean she's in sort of the perfect job. It sort of makes sense that what she learned as a little girl... Hey! You learned how to deal with a drunk you can deal with Trump! ...girl and throughout her life dealing with him And Trump is owning it. Trump is wearing it in effect as kind of badge of honor He saying what she meant when he said that he has an alcoholic personality not that he's a drinker we know these not but that he has this grandiose

32:13 personality, he believes that there is nothing as she put it. Nothing! That he doesn't think he can do. She is saying Susie Wiles pushed back on the story on social media saying quote significant context was disregarded Actually so that was a funny bit but that wasn't the clip with the slip-up It's the last one here and you'll hear it Here's the fascinating thing and that is not only is there Wait isn't that the same clip? wait a minute That doesn't make sense. This is so good! Hold on... She is saying Susie Wiles pushed back about saying stuff that's f***ing crap, maybe it's in this one? One of the things the White House was saying were things taken out of context, wildly out of context was the quote of Leavitt are things taken out of context because some of the quotes are they're tight I mean they're just everything What does that even mean in writer speak some of the quotes there tight what does that mean

33:08 doesn't mean anything. Okay, are things taken out of context? Because some of the quotes are they're tight I mean they're just it's like everything is was scrupulously in context and and i gotta tell you the giveaway when you're a journalist and you hear your target uh subject There it is beautiful if you're going for a hit job. You don't have a subject you have a target Yeah, he admits it right there yeah, and you caught that dad you get in fact you get a borderline clip of the day for catching that Let's finish this

33:47 It's out of taking out of context because some of the quotes are they're tight I mean, they're just it's like everything is was scrupulously in context and and I got to tell you The giveaway when your journalist and you hear your target The subject saying talking about things like context and omissions You know you're on the right track because there isn't a single fact or a single Assertion that they've challenged in the piece it really reminds me of the Watergate days when Ben Bradley said talked about non-denial denial So this is the ultimate non-denial. They're not really attacking well I never absolutely never said that although you give us some context on this and then Non-denial, I looked it up and non denial denial was that some kind of?

34:33 What's the trouble? I have no idea. This is all news to me. Oh, I mean what he's saying there you know yes if somebody if you say well I think that really sucks but then again it might not suck and then the quote is that really sucks yeah I did say that And so you can't deny it, but the non-denial denial of whatever the hell that phrase is. You could say it's out of context because I also said, I also said but sometimes it doesn't suck or whatever. This is the kind of thing when you take selective quotations and you just pull them this why sarcasm is a bad idea on podcasts.

35:17 Or or even in in conversation or anywhere where you're being interviewed? They'll take the sarcastic bit does just a good remark and then yeah, and it without the sarcastic tone if it's played flat I mean Tucker Carlson has all kinds of good quotes. If hey, yes You don't know if they're taking out of context and they're not played as sarcasm I can't do it. I've lost it. You lost that I lost if they're taken as a direct quote rather than sarcasm It's you can make you sound terrible like a terrible person Let's finish this clip Susie Wiles did at one point say That she denied saying that that Elon Musk is an avowed ketamine user in

36:02 But you then apparently, according to the reporter, played a tape for The New York Times which confirmed that quote. It's on tape as is every assertion that Susie made and as you know I interviewed the inner circle as well. I talked to J.D. Vance, I talked to Marco Rubio, Stephen Miller and others all of it taped all of it on the record And the giveaway is that they haven't been able to challenge a single fact. Are you surprised that the president's not, apparently it seems by the public, at least publicly not angry with Wiles? Well here's the other thing as you say it's not very often that you get an endorsement of your quotation from the president. You know he... The alcoholic personality. Yeah and evidently wears that as a badge of honor Yes wonderful

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The View, Elon Musk and Strategic Revenge Claims

The hosts of The View discussed Susie Wiles' comments regarding Elon Musk's ketamine use and his habit of sleeping in a sleeping bag, comparing him to the ascetic nature of Steve Jobs. Analysis suggests Wiles' interview may have been a strategic "long game" to humanize Trump or issue a veiled warning that the President will take revenge on enemies if given the opportunity.

the view· elon musk· susie wiles· donald trump· ketamine· steve jobs

36:47 Hate to do this, but it is worth it for the entertainment purposes. I'm sorry Here's your warning at the tone a clip from the view will be played shelter in place But Susie Wiles calls the article quote disingenuously framed hit piece with significant context disregarding context What was she thinking? When they asked the first question and you knew it was a question that was hit piece with shit, why did you answer it? I know. One thing that i forgot to add she called Elon Musk an odd duck and a vowed ketamine user he sleeps in his sleeping bag but then she added that she has no personal knowledge of the ketamine use but she did call him an avowed ketamine user But why does he sleep in this? He's a multi trillionaire and he sleeps in this sleeping bag because he is an odd duck he's very odd duck he is an odd duck! I would agree with that assessment

37:37 Is there something wrong with sleeping in a sleeping bag? No, well no. I guess fine whatever But i'm just curious if that's what he wants to do who am I to judge him He is a kabillionaire Yeah he is you know it's a very expensive sleeping bag Just you know she has also were they not prepped were they not prepped for this i mean they don't they don't seem to have any Any details? They don't have good jokes that go with it. I mean, this is a scripted show! I'm kind of surprised... It seems like they weren't in on the gag. Yeah, they obviously weren't read in on anything and they're just winging it and it's not good. No It's like then they're picking on poor of musk odd ducky out gee that's a that's a horrible What a thing to say about someone he sleeps in the sleeping bag Sleeping bag you know used to talk about Steve Jobs the ascetic who had this big mansion in Woodside that was empty

38:36 And he walked around barefoot, eating a crouton and that was it. Let the world know that there is an adult in the room. Yeah! That was also what this is. See I think it was strategic in a different way. I think she's trying to help him clean up his act because if she says well you know... It was just boys having fun It's like, um really? You know. Oh it was just you know this one didn't do what she was supposed to do and this one didn't but I I'm on top of it all. I'm watching it all. I just think you're trying to clean it up She says that's interesting point she made that her father was an alcoholic and she understands the personality of an alcoholic So that's why she says he has an alcoholic Personality, but he doesn't drink He's a nice has a narcissistic disorder yeah That is really the what he had when he responded to me wasn't not offensive

39:30 Wow. Okay, they're off the—they're not in the game anymore. They're out! This was a targeted well-done long game acknowledged hit piece because Suzy Wiles was the target So, but I think that the day...I think it was played both ways. I think Susie Wiles was aware of the situation as mentioned by the earlier clip where she was told not to talk to this guy And the thing was kind of a setup because there's a bunch of set up lines in there I think one of them the most important one is yeah Trump, but Trump doesn't he says it's not true But if he's given the opportunity to take revenge on somebody He does it which is an open threat to anyone who wants to go after Trump Because all he says he's not into revenge

40:24 But there it is, he's into revenge so you better beware. I think that was a message that was purposely put in there and I think a lot of the stuff in there was purposefully put in and he thinks he can do anything because... In other words, he can try anything? I think the whole thing was a scam! She was part of it she would see smart everyone says she's something of a genius in this regard she played Whipple And the whole thing is a benefit to Trump at the end of the day. There's lines by J.D. Vance that were almost prepared in advance. Yeah, yeah good point even though he didn't read the article

41:05 Yeah, even though he didn't have to because they already told him what was gonna happen. They're gonna go after you Vance for being a conspiracy theory here's your lines So it was really a switcheroo where they all went nah and you know Whipple is probably like ah He's gonna call me a horrible person and my star will rise And that I was like Whipple who? yeah, that's possible It is possible because some of the information in there was a bit threatening to the enemies. So last night, the president spoke to The Nation... I couldn't watch it! I tried watching it and got through about five minutes and said this is just another, just another, another

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Donald Trump, Venezuela War Rumors and Economic Address

Tucker Carlson sparked rumors of an imminent war with Venezuela prior to Donald Trump's national address, which ultimately focused on domestic achievements and the CPI print showing inflation below 3%. The address, which cut into the season finale of Survivor on CBS, was uncharacteristically short at 17 minutes. Trump claimed Biden-era inflation was the worst in history, a point the hosts dispute by citing 1970s interest rates.

donald trump· venezuela· tucker carlson· cpi· inflation· survivor

41:47 So forth and so on speech, I've heard it before. Well there was some preamble that is interesting as Tucker continues his worldwide podcast tour he was on with Judge Knapp Oh God, there's a comedy. She brings those old Fox buddies because you know... Judge Nap. Nap, Neapolitana was working there when Tucker was here So here is a short exchange that I caught yesterday and it was like hmm interesting Is Trump going to start a war in Venezuela?

42:23 I don't know. I don't know when this program airs, the one that we're on right now. We're live now and then it will be posted immediately so... So my sense is..I don't know the answer I've certainly been on the phone a lot about it. I have no power, I'm a podcaster but i am very interested. And so here's what I know so far which is that members of congress were briefed yesterday that a war is coming and it'll be announced in the address to The Nation tonight at nine o'clock by the president who knows by the way if that will actually happen?

43:02 And I never want to overstate what I know, which is pretty limited in general. But a member of Congress told me that this morning. OK so let's just summarize the word is out the president is going to announce war with Venezuela tonight That's why he asked for a network cut-in and this network cutting was significant on CBS They were running the season finale of Survivor You know it says kind of a big deal Yeah, that's a good time to do it. For Trump I mean if you want to screw over CBS... So the question is was this one of those let's tell a few selective people this or maybe one? Let's see where it leaks out

43:48 Because I think it was done on purpose not for not to see who let who did it and who lets it leak out You definitely tell Tucker. Mm-hmm, but I think was to get the audience to listen to the Trump spiel I agree that It was a bit was what was a pre promotion promote? What do you call it? Promo sue's baiting switches is what it was But it was prerecorded obviously and and I think it was like okay mr. President They're probably not going to give you more than 20 minutes before they realize you're not gonna announce war against Venezuela. So, you gotta talk fast! Yeah that's what was so short... Talk fast, talk fast, stick to the script. And by the way, hold on, you made an unbelievable point there whenever have we seen Trump talk 15 minutes? Never! Never?! He'd go two hours if he gave them a shot at it.

44:40 And it was, you know... No. You're right! That's exactly what happened. They're gonna give you a f- they're gonna kill ya here after 15 minutes making a 15 minute promotional speech and get out I think he made it 17 that's pretty much how far he got. 17 minutes. So and it was, you know, Biden sucks we were great. We're great. Biden sucks. We are great. And we're giving $1776 as a bonus to everyone in the Department of War Well that was nice Yeah, that was cute. That was cute. Cute, cute is the term. 1776. Get it? And don't worry because everything's gonna be great which did we get the CPI print today yet cuz that's the way I took this oh inflation must be doing okay let me see um let me see... I think its around 2.93 so thats down

45:31 Economists see a lot of, okay. All right hold on a second 2.7 and 2.6 well below expectations he knew it he knew what was coming so yeah well that numbers Just a number. Of course it's just, it's all bullcrap money is not even real the birds aren't real everything's fake hello yeah but just stick to our script man okay we're like this roll with it that's how this is how this operates inflation is below three percent for the first time Trump did it he knew it! He knew that number was coming. Right at the beginning Trump had the line which always bothers me when he does this

46:13 He says that inflation under Biden was the worst in 40 years, maybe the worst in history. Maybe! Which is like... anybody who's older than I don't know what it was the late 70s during the 70s when the market crash in 69 and during the 1970s 20% Yeah I mean, I remember in 19... let's see we bought a house in New Jersey in 1991? I think. No maybe 1990. I was paying 10% interest on my mortgage and that was low! Interest rates on mortgages went to 18-21 percent by the end of the Carter administration

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Venezuela Blockade, Stolen Oil Assets and UN Response

President Trump ordered a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers entering Venezuela, demanding the return of oil lands and assets previously nationalized by the Maduro and Chavez regimes. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called for de-escalation following a phone call with Maduro. The hosts provide context on the decade-long dispute involving Chevron and Exxon licenses in the region.

venezuela· nicolas maduro· oil blockade· chevron· exxon· antonio guterres

47:00 So yeah, I don't like that either. It's always like, but when he says maybe okay... Yeah but just so he knows better He was there for the inflation of Jimmy Carter! He was there for the crash of 32 what are you talking about? He was there for all of it. He's been around. So is-so he has to stop doing that. So then we get Just sticking with the North Sea Nexus for a moment, then we get the blockade because we're not going to war but what are we doing? Welcome back to live now from Fox. I'm Shauna Calafi with some breaking news I only chose her because she actually read part of his truth post from President Trump He is ordering a blockade

47:42 all sanctioned oil tankers into Venezuela ramping up pressure on Maduro. This is a post from President Trump on Truth Social just a short while ago, he said Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America it will only get bigger and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before. Until such time as they return to the United States of America, all of the oil land and other assets that they previously stole from us. The illegitimate Maduro regime is using oil from these stolen oil fields to finance themselves drug terrorism human trafficking murder and kidnapping

48:26 For the theft of our assets and many other reasons including terrorism, drug smuggling and human trafficking. The Venezuelan regime has been designated a foreign terrorist organization." So I just want to add some context to this because people forget things you know when you do a show like this for almost two decades You remember stuff Like the horrible things Michelle Reiner said We'll talk about that later Ten years ago Maduro nationalized our oil companies refinery that they had there The the drills the rigs the oil everything he took every took it and and I was Chavez who did that? Yes, but we've been fighting that for ten years saying hey give us our stuff back. And I think that was Chevron and

49:17 And, of course just a little bit under a year ago Maduro said yeah we're taking Esquibo the very oil rich segment of Guyana and they're saying this is ours but it's not because the licenses and quote unquote ownership of the oil is for Exxon. So, when he says give me back our oil land and other assets. Yeah! That's absolutely true but people forget this Meanwhile play this clip UN sides with Venezuela This is good The UN Secretary General has called for the de-escalation of tensions between the US and Venezuela Antonio Guterres made the comment after a phone call with President Maduro

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Fentanyl Reclassification, Weapon of Mass Destruction Designation

Donald Trump signed an executive order classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction (WMD). Legal analysts on CNN argued the move is largely symbolic and lacks legal impact without Congressional action, while others cited the 2002 Moscow theater hostage crisis as a precedent for fentanyl's use as a chemical weapon. The hosts discuss the statutory definition of WMDs under 18 U.S. Code 2332a.

fentanyl· weapon of mass destruction· executive order· chemical weapons· cdc

50:06 Yeah, well they're very forgetful. But of course he called them out in the national strategic security document saying we're not listening to global organizations anymore I think they take that to heart That's you people! Then just to stick with it We've got to get Mexico, we gotta get those guys. Anywhere there's British money we gotta cut it off! That's why today I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country with this historic executive order i will sign today for formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction which is what it is no bomb does what this is doing

50:57 200 to 300,000 people die every year that we know of. So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction." Ah he loves saying that let's hear the two sides of the argument first from Fox News. That's why today oops Fentanyl has been a major problem in the United States not only the illegal flow of it into the country but another concern that isn't mentioned is much using this substance and some sort of weapon The Trump administration is now classifying this stuff as an actual weapon of mass destruction. Will that be enough to stop it? When you're working in the Department of Defense on weapons of mass destruction, was there any evidence of that possibly happening or any sort of group getting the capability to happen? That's first time I've heard something like that

51:44 The example actually, there is a real world example in 2002 Chechen terrorists seized the crowded theater and threatened to execute hundreds of hostages in Russia. Well the security forces, the Russian security forces They didn't want to engage with 40 well-armed terrorists, so what they decided to do was pump a fentanyl analog into the theater's ventilation system which incapacitated nearly everyone inside the theater. They stormed the building and shot unconscious terrorists and brought out hostages. But in the aftermath, there were 130 hostages that died because of the fentanyl that was blasted through the ventilation system. And so that demonstrates you know the potency of it and so that was an aerialized form subsequently I should point out

52:36 Chemical weapons convention has said, hey you can't use aerialization of fentanyl for law enforcement purposes. But it has been done so that's an example Josh. Shoot may I remember that? Do you remember that movie theater But I didn't realize that many people died from the fentanyl. Oh yeah! And i like the idea that the Russians came in and they found a terrorist unconscious and shot him. That's where they do business. Let's go to CNN here Earlier today, President Trump made an unprecedented declaration he is taking what he calls a war on drugs and drug traffickers to the next level. According to the CDC, there were more than 80,000 overdose deaths in 2024 alone and synthetic opioids primarily fentanyl continue to play a role in the majority of those deaths. All right Ellie to you does this executive order give the president more power to do more that he's already doing that Congress has not actually approved these boat strikes? No it is completely meaningless its symbolic

53:35 If federal law describes what a weapon of mass destruction is, generally has to be an incendiary device. Something that blows up something that shoots something that disseminates poison that kind of thing if you commit a crime involving a weapon of mass destruction is very serious penalties involved could be life in prison could be death if someone dies but the president saying drugs or fentanyl are now weapons of mass destruction have has zero zero legal impact it's up to judges. It's up to the parties on a case by case basis, it's an interesting argument it doesn't meet the definition but if the president declared that a slingshot is a firearm, he doesn't make it a firearm for legal purposes. Congress would have to change this. A judge couldn't just say fentanyl is a weapon because you said-

54:25 Uh, wait. Yeah. This kind of reminds me of a, you know, saying that COVID-19 vaccine is actually a vaccine. Yes. Change the law. No just changed Miriam Webster. That's how you do it? I thought this was an interesting case so i looked up 18 U S code 2332 A And a weapon of mass destruction is defined as destructive devices, any explosive incendiary or poison gas including bombs grenades or rockets. Chemical weapons, any weapon designed or intended to cause death... ...or serious bodily injury through the release dissemination or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals

55:11 Biological weapons, any weapon involving a biological agent toxin or delivery system. And then there's radiological and nuclear weapons I think you can make an argument that seeing as 80 thousand people a year die from it That it is a weapon of mass destruction I'm all in. I think that's valid. It was creative! Very creative, which brings us to the Turtle Island Liberation Front oh boy the six-week cycle is back Four alleged members of an extremist group suspected of planning five bombing attacks on New Year's Eve in Los Angeles and Orange counties are now in custody. Hey stop it Carol! Stopping

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Turtle Island Liberation Front, New Year's Eve Bomb Plot

The FBI arrested four members of the Turtle Island Liberation Front for allegedly plotting IED attacks on logistics companies in Los Angeles and Orange County for New Year's Eve. The suspects were filmed rehearsing with bomb-making materials in the Mojave Desert. The hosts express skepticism regarding the severity of the threat, noting the presence of informants and the lack of essential components like pipe caps in the evidence.

fbi· turtle island liberation front· ied· mojave desert· domestic terrorism

55:54 This reminds me, wasn't there supposed to be some sort of an event last Monday that all these podcasters, the sneer and smear podcasting group? Yes. The 9-11 style attacks multi cities yeah Yeah Wasn't that supposed to be like a couple days ago? Yeah What happened Are you still there? Yeah Okay I'm still here Where's all these attacks? I guess it wasn't true. Zachary Page, Tina Chen Ting and Dante Anthony Gaffield appeared in federal court Monday These bombs were to blow up at the same time on midnight this New Year's Eve The plan stated that the IDs would be complex pipe bombs It included instructions on how to manufacture the bombs

56:40 and contained guidance on how to avoid leaving evidence behind that could be traced back to them. Video released by the FBI shows the four suspects on Friday at a remote campsite in Lucerne Valley, in the southern Mojave Desert. Investigators say the suspects brought bomb-making materials to the desert to rehearse their planned action. Investigators say they found PVC pipes suspected potassium nitrate, charcoal sulfur powder and other elements. They were arrested shortly after this video was taken. The four subjects are members of a radical faction of the Turtle Island Liberation Front at this point they show video picture

57:17 of a couple of hand-drawn signs that say, yeah I saw the sign. Death to America! Turtle Island. Down with fascism. Well first of all let's make people need to know Turtle Island is some reference to the entire body of North America that was considered a cold turtle island by some indigenous folks back in some, in some historic era. Well if you saw the pictures of these people who are arrested they look like the kind of people who would thank the indigenous people that we can stand here and make bombs on your secret grounds. Of course that's what do you want? Yeah, That's the way it looks. And by the way before you continue I knew when I was an air pollution inspector there was a guy that ran a chemical company

58:00 In Oakland, I'm not gonna mention his name but he was a part of the big club of guys that would go to the Mojave Desert with explosives and blow shit up. They loved it! Wow cool And they had photos because they liked to take pictures of this. Here's like a 55 Buick look at this and here after we blew it up with 10 sticks of dynamite And it was like a hobby. So it's not surprising that there were people out, this is where you do it! Out in the middle of nowhere Mojave Desert. You blow stuff up. Well there's a little bit more to it. It's American way. There's just a little bit more to the case

58:35 a violent homegrown anti-government group. Carol and her co-defendant, Zachary Page led the effort to obtain and build the bombs and recruit others to join in their plot. The suspects have been charged with conspiracy in possession of unregistered destructive device Officials would not release any information about the target locations, only saying they are logistics companies engaged in interstate and commerce. These threats are sophisticated organized campaigns of targeted intimidation again The FBI is saying that if these would have been successful They would have been coordinated IED bombing attacks on New Year's Eve Okay So this is horse manure

59:18 And I'll tell, I read the affidavit. It's all right there. So they've been tracking these people since December 6th and they had a confidential human informant who was already in the group already showing the feds this signal messages. They had an undercover law enforcement officer in the group Yeah, that's what you do. some ammonium nitrate, you get some fertilizer. You get some charcoal, some sulfur... I've never done this by the way! Yeah sure you have when i went to the University of California in chemical engineering The first thing that came up in a conversation like when I was a freshman He says how many fingers do you got? Is that the number you want to keep? And I'd never made an explosive What we used to do back in the old country

1:00:22 when I lived in the farm land south of Amsterdam, is we'd get fertilizer and sugar. And then you put water and you make a water solution. You dip paper in it? Yeah, you make flashpaper. Flashpaper! Oh yeah, that was fantastic. Yeah, you can do that. That's different. Well but... But we also did some other stuff with pipes. Obviously. But not PVC pipe and they had no caps They literally had the affidavit says they had no caps, no cap for the PVC pipe. So what kind of bomb are you making? Well they couldn't charge him on making a bomb so instead possession of an unregistered destructive device that didn't register their device This is bullcrap! The thing that bothers me the most is the fear-mongering from the FBI

1:01:10 And, oh we saved you America! This would have been bad. Oh it would have been five buildings just blown to smithereens. Stay safe stay vigilant if you see something say something this I hate that how about how about you? I do i'm sick of it How about you do your job And because you are government, we appreciate it. It's great that you keep us safe and then just go home and have a beer! Then the next day go after some other Turtle Island group There is no reason to do this big... Whoa stop the presses breaking news We all could've been blown to smithereens Especially after all of the Red Green Alliance ISIS, ISIS in America Al Qaeda Muslims Islam

1:01:58 It's sickening. It keeps everybody on edge during the happiest time of the year. What is it? Pissing into the wind is what you're doing here I'm making people aware why this is being done Oh, we've been bitchin' and moanin' about this This's never gonna change The FBI has got... They have their marching orders There somewhere there's a memo unless somebody goes into the FBI and changes the memo that set this up whatever many years ago because it's good for business And they keep... He brings the newbies in You can show them how to ropes infiltrate and do other things. It's good, good business." Then you make a big fuss about it so the newbies can say... So you point to the newbies and look what happened! This is the results of your good work we got everybody all riled up saying this is this is the way you do it. It's how everybody kept on edge and afraid and cowering and suspicious of each other. I know you're all in but I'm against it

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

Candace Owens, AI Parody and Psychological Operations

An AI-generated parody of Candace Owens describes a paranoid meeting in Nashville involving poisoned cookies and Israeli spies. The real Owens later claimed she is the target of a military-grade psychological operation involving bots and influencers designed to discredit her. The hosts discuss the ongoing effort to sideline Owens from the mainstream conservative media landscape.

candace owens· ai· mossad· psychological operation· youtube· nashville

1:02:57 Hey, I'm a podcaster. I can stink my mind! Egyptian airplanes... come on man Well that brings us to a Candace Owens clip Oh goodness really? We've never had one before i want to play the clip this explains a lot Let me see. I know all you guys want to know what happened during my meeting with Erica, so here it goes we met in Nashville because i didn't want to fly anywhere and have my plane shut down by Israel So I told her to come here instead she gets here and first thing she does is she gives me some homemade cookies And I'm like bitch ain't eating those poison chocolate chip cookies

1:03:37 She tried to poison me. Anyway, I'm still alive after almost dying from the poisoned Israeli cookies and we start talking Then you're not gonna believe what happened next The waiter asks us if we want something to drink, but he's wearing the Star of David. So I'm like...I ain't about to drink no Poisons lemonade from you! You Mossad agent. Anyway, I almost die again from Israeli lemonade poisoning and Erica is like, I'll just have some water please which is obviously code for you better kill this bitch right now amirite? so we talk and we talk

1:04:12 And she tells me I'm acting crazy or whatever. So, I asked her to show me pictures of her when she was younger and she's like why? so i'm like oh my god She doesn't have any! So, I just discovered that she is actually a man and now talking with this man who probably is an Israeli spy sent here to kill me I get up, go to the bathroom. I dig a hole under the shitter like El Chapo and I finally made it back to tell you guys the story and get paid millions by YouTube to keep you guys stupid against Trump and Turning Point because i'm just a piece of shit like that anyway thank you for your views retards! That's not bad...that AI is pretty good

1:04:59 That was the the real thing is almost as nutty Okay, ladies and gentlemen get ready. I am telling you get ready We have an explosive episode today actually I should say it's a non-explosive episode And you'll see why we're gonna jump right into this because after yesterday's episode we were contacted by a variety of people with information that And it's time to state unequivocally that the steel neck quotation did not come from the surgeon. Okay, not only that but its odd that federal agents were I would say too involved at the hospital when I tell you this story your jaw is going

1:05:37 floor. We also have never before seen photos of the vehicle, I know it sounds like a fed here that Charlie was transported in to the hospital when they were trying to save his life. I'm telling you my perspective is that all these leads are ramping up The reason for that is because the general public, the general public is actually not receptive to what is very clearly a military grade psychological operation. Complete with influencers and bodied activity on social media were so let down it's over I'm never watching this show ever again Candace took money! The people can see what you're doing feds they can see it I could see it

1:06:21 And now we're going to, you know, got to go back today. Welcome back to Candace. So my takeaway from this which was not a is that so the feds have mounted a psych military grade psychological operation against Candice and bots and influencers are saying she sucks That's the takeaway from that. I, you know, that AI that I played Yeah? I think is part of the operation Oh! Of course it is But yeah...I see it the same way There was an op to discredit and get rid of Candace Owens To put her not kill her as she likes No, no, no, she's not gonna get killed To side-line her permanently

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Tucker Carlson, Doha Interview and Israel-Qatar Relations

Tucker Carlson conducted an interview in Doha, Qatar, where he discussed Donald Trump's decision to side with Qatar over Israel following an Israeli bombing in the country. Carlson described this as a "seminal change" in U.S. foreign policy. The hosts question Carlson's frequent trips to the region and the potential for "audience capture" in his reporting.

tucker carlson· doha· qatar· israel· hamas· donald trump

1:07:09 And I think Tucker knows this because he doesn't want to get sidelined. He, he is so interesting. He didn't- I think Tucker's in on a lot of this stuff. I don't think you can be sidelined Well, I do not trust Dr. Wilson. Listen to this because this is the second time he's done this and then he did like an eight minute interview with a Doha morning show or whatever it was. It's Doha This Morning everybody! Welcome to The Desert how you doing? How are your oil stocks? Listen to what he says about Trump in this but I left this beginning him because the lady says something kind of interesting. Do you feel You make quite a few trips here, but... He made quite a few trips here? Quite a few trips Does Tucker visit Doha a lot?

1:08:01 Get his checks Something changed in the way you feel in the last couple of years. Do you feel I feel that? I'm 56 my children are grown I have an obligation from my perspective to tell the truth and Indecency and kindness by the way telling the truth is not a lot of people or pointing out there You know they're obvious sins no telling the truth means telling the truth in love What do you think it's true, but wait I've been wrong many times. I supported the Iraq war, okay? I've been wrong and I know that I've been wrong and I know that I will be wrong again so I'm not claiming I have a monopoly on the truth what i'm saying is as an American citizen I have a right to say what I think and I'm going to period. Period! He always he does that a lot

1:08:45 I'm an American citizen, and have the right to say what i feel like i want to say. And that's it! I am an American citizen period! How could this fight reshape the american right? Possibly define how the US engages with the Middle East Could it potentially change everything? The President of United States recently sided in public with an Arab country over Israel Israel bombed Doha Qatar is one of our most important allies in the region. Our largest airbase is in this country, Qatar. Qatar hosts Hamas at the request of the United States government and the Israeli government for more than 10 years and Israel bombed a meeting here in Qatar

1:09:26 in order to short circuit Donald Trump's peace process. This was an attack not just on Qatar, but on America. Donald Trump saw it that way he said he saw it that way and he forced the Israelis to apologize To the government of Qatar nothing like that has ever happened There's never been a situation where the US president publicly took the side of an Arab country over Israel That just happened That is a huge change that is a seminal change What are its long-term effects? I can only guess but we've never seen them before This seems to be the message he wants to convey so that kind of gives me pauses to where is he in this big? podcaster thing which also Brings to mind this this call that Trump brings netanyahu into the Oval Office or the meeting wherever they do that meeting and he has Benjamin yet not Hey, hey He signs your checks bro. You better get his name right

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

Nick Fuentes, Dave Smith and Audience Capture

The hosts analyze the rise of "punk rock podcasting" exemplified by Nick Fuentes, who gains traction by violating social taboos. They contrast this with Dave Smith's admission of "audience capture," where podcasters tailor content to please their specific fanbases. The hosts assert that their own "value-for-value" model prevents them from falling into similar traps.

nick fuentes· dave smith· audience capture· punk rock· podcasting

1:10:23 So he brings him in and humiliates him in public, makes a make them a public phone call to the Qataris apologizing for the bombing. This is bull crap! This whole thing was rigged it was set up for whatever reason to make Trump a certain give him certain gravitas with the Arabs and who knows what else but this was this is nonsense if we are to believe it just because this would never really happen All of this that is happening, and it really has been going on for a while. Nick Fuentes I was aware of him years ago and you know I know that you think he's a pro and i'm not gonna disagree. I cannot disagree with you on that but there's something else He is a punk rock podcaster And I say this because

1:11:13 Everything he does is like punk rock. Punk rock, you know the Sex Pistols... I know exactly what you mean! Screw The Queen, kicking down these- Believe it or not, I was a punk rock fan during the era of the number of these bands that came out What was your favorite punk rock band? It was one band that, damnit, I can think of their name in a second Peter Paul and Mary Yes, Peter Paul and Mary Especially like Mary when she ripped off her bra Well, you had the Ramones. You had the Sex Pistols. You had... well there you go! There's my knowledge of them. No, I really thought one group was fantastic but I'd have to think about it. Anyway, it was a long time ago But he is a punk rock kid and what he's doing is going against what was the one thing that you could never say? Israel no good Jews no good Boom! There's Fuentes

1:12:11 I want to be with white people, not with black people. Boom Fuentes women suck boom Fuentes it's punk rock podcasting and i'm getting it now because this is all part of audience capture and I was watching Dave Smith Part of the problem because I do watch this stuff. You know, I try to stay in form I try to figure out what is going on why are these people so strange to me? Because you know we're boomers. I'm not officially Gen X face of Jaya. Okay call me a blue already Dave Smith actually Admitted it he admitted audience capture and

1:12:50 And here it is. You know, like a lot of us are kind of you know me and you and I think Candace and Tucker and like a lot of other people essentially we the relationship here is us in the audience We got to make something that the audience likes and then we do well and if we make something the audience doesn't like It won't do as well There ya go That's exactly what your doing So if the audience says, yeah Israel bad. You're gonna do that I don't even know if it's based on principles with these people its audience capture and we don't do that We don't do it Yeah, we don't know how we don't we don't we don't bother? Once it takes us out of our

1:13:36 Our strike zone is deconstructing the media, looking for little tidbits like using the word target instead of subject. Stuff like that and that fascinates everybody at all times but we're not a... I used it in the newsletter this phrase which is the sneer and smear type of podcast and the grievance type of podcast that just is designed to get audience, just do audience capture And we don't have, we don't qualify in either one of those categories. That's for sure. We also don't count on YouTube money. Yeah, well you don't count on YouTube money and we don't need any of that stuff. So we want to actually give you our opinions which are often countered to the popular narrative and people get really upset really up to even just me calling Dave Smith I called him out Hey John, we called out Dave Smith whoo! Um that will get people upset

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

European Union, Russian Asset Seizure for Ukraine

The European Commission is negotiating a deal to seize frozen Russian assets to fund a reparations loan for Ukraine. Belgium, which holds a significant portion of the funds, has expressed concerns about legal liability and potential Russian retaliation. Foreign Minister Hanke Bruins Slot suggested that Russia should be held responsible for damages and can challenge the seizure in court.

european union· russia· ukraine· reparations· belgium· mark rutte

1:14:35 It's amazing. And we're like, okay be upset then it's fine I'm not donating! Okay They don't donate people who say that never donate anyway No that is true As we speak the European Commission all 27 heads of the states of The European Union are locked in a room and they're not coming out until they have a deal Until they have a deal about stealing the Russian money and giving that to Ukraine I have a couple clips myself. Okay? Yeah, I'd love to hear your clips Let's do your clothes first Well you weren't prepared okay No, it wasn't preparing because she jumped right into a topic You said I have a couple clips and when you say that I figure you got clips

1:15:27 Well, continue with your presentation as you figure out your clips. Here is the I think she's the foreign minister, Carlos and she went in front of the microphones people are coming out from time to time from the meeting like it was a tough meeting. You know, we gotta do stuff and it looks like We have appeased Brussels or Belgium's issues with stealing the money and letting them take the rap for it. And of course we have the discussions on the reparations loan now The proposals that we have been working on also addressing Belgium's concerns I think to go for the legislative proposal means that we all take the risk because it's a European proposal so there is and burden is shared between

1:16:14 equally. So I think the issues that Belgium has raised we have also addressed so I hope that we get this over the finishing line. Putin is banking on acts failed, we shouldn't give them that. I understand Belgium is under a lot of pressure from Russia from European countries but also from the United States and in order to get off that pressure actually we should have a European proposal then Belgium will just abide by the law and you know whoever has any concerns can go to court against

1:16:55 European Union. But I think the fundamental issue is that Russia is causing the damage in Ukraine, so they should also be responsible for the reparations and this reparations loan is based on that very idea." So let me get this straight... The very Russia that just last week you were saying and all nodding in agreement to NATO's Secretary General Mark Rutte, Russia sees us as next. We're next! Get under your beds get your three-day emergency kits ready now all of a sudden you're saying well you can just sue all of us then in the European Union cart go ahead and sue us what is it?

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Keir Starmer, Roman Abramovich Chelsea Sale Dispute

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer is pressuring Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich to release £2.5 billion from the sale of Chelsea Football Club for Ukrainian humanitarian aid. Abramovich reportedly wants the funds to benefit all victims of the war, including Russians, leading to a legal stalemate. The British government has given Abramovich a 90-day ultimatum before pursuing further court action.

keir starmer· roman abramovich· chelsea fc· sanctions· humanitarian aid

1:17:37 Are you afraid that they're going to come and bomb you for their money that you stole or do you think they're just gonna file a lawsuit? That's a good point. It's ridiculous! I think the clips i'm referring to are these Ukraine clips, and I have three of them because... Let me play one more money clip before we get into it This is Keir Starmer, just to show you that we're tough guys here. We're going to steal some Russian money! Watch me do it! The United Kingdom issued a license to allow the funds from the sale of Chelsea football club to be transferred to humanitarian causes in Europe Ukraine. Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich sold Chelsea in 2022 under pressure from the British government, the funds from the sale have since then been frozen UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer is now allowing him to use the money but only to help Ukraine Under the new license proceeds must be directed to humanitarian causes in Ukraine for future gains may be

1:18:34 This is the worst idea ever! I have three better clips than that from the BBC. Okay. The Abramovich series, this is not the Ukraine ones since you changed it kind of to Abramovich because this has to be discussed You're right. This is... Abramovich will kill you! He will kill you Well not only that but at the same time if your going let a guy into the country to begin with and invest in stuff

1:19:25 spend his money and then he wants to, and then you force him to sell his stuff. And then you steal the money? Are you kidding me? Three billion dollars worth that's insane! So here we go there Brahm it's called the Abramovich fiasco. The British government is stepping up pressure on the Russian oligarch and former Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich If so if you steal something from the store You can just say I'm stepping up pressure on your store? This is very interesting. Over a financial pledge he made when he was forced to sell the football club back in 2022 Mr Abramovich promised all the money he made from the sale would be used to benefit victims of the Russian invasion of Ukraine but funds still haven't been released because of a disagreement on how they should be used now the government is threatening to take legal action against him this was Prime Minister Kirstarma speaking in Parliament

1:20:20 My message to Abramovich is this, the clock is ticking. Honor the commitment that you made and pay up now! And if you don't we're prepared to go to court so every penny reaches those whose lives have been torn apart by Putin's illegal war Yes, we need to buy more homes in Europe Take his money Wow. It's astonishing to me they're gonna steal this guy's money and I think what he was referring to is if you made any profit on the sale not that all the money which is what they're trying to go for but what are just trying to go for some money where you would get used to how much money got it now ours

1:21:01 and we're gonna spend it over here because you Abramovich, the owner of the Chelsea Football Club. You are responsible for Ukraine yeah? Anyways so part two... Our political correspondent Harry Farley has been telling me more about the background to this row and why it's gone on for so long when Roman Abramovich sold Chelsea football club he made a two and a half billion pounds. But that was frozen, that money was frozen in the UK because of British sanctions on Russian business people and representatives around the world. And so that money is frozen it is stuck Roman Abramovich cannot access it himself and he previously said he would be happy for that money to be used for all victims of the war now that's something

1:21:52 British government doesn't agree with it, wants that money to be used for humanitarian purposes for Ukrainian victims of the war and they're concerned that Mr Abramovich wants it to go to both sides so meaning Russians could also benefit. That is the essence of the dispute But because this money is technically still Mr Abramovich's, even though he cannot access it there has been the stalemate ever since 2022 and this is really the latest iteration of the government stepping up its pressure on Mr Abramovich showing signs of irritation but of course irritation in itself doesn't release that money. Yeah I mean is there any indication that Roman Abramovich is actually going to give this money over to Ukraine? Not at the moment, to be honest. The UK government is threatening legal action, the UK government are saying Mr Abramovich needs to honour that commitment he made they're saying they'd be prepared to take this to court

1:22:47 and the next steps as it were is Mr. Abramovich has 90 days to respond, after which the UK government could at that point take this to court we haven't actually heard from Mr. Abramovich or his representatives today so we don't know if there is any shift in his position but at the moment at least this is just threats and I suppose a toughening of language from British ministers hold on second so did they take it or not? It sounded like Starmer was saying we're taking your money and its done And this makes it sound like there's still some mechanisms. Yeah, in other words they haven't taken it yet. Let's play the last part of this from yesterday. Of course there is about to be an EU summit where leaders are going to be urged to agree to use Russia's frozen assets to give money to Ukraine and give them a huge loan? Yeah, there is gonna be exactly that summit. There was

1:23:36 over the weekend, towards the end of last week. Some pretty confident noises coming from people I was speaking to in government officials believing that this could be a real moment and a real turning point where those frozen Russian assets across Europe most of which are actually held in Belgium could be released and given to Ukraine there is less optimism now I am sensing. We'll find out the details tomorrow, but certainly this sort of excitement that this is going to be a big breakthrough obviously this has been something to talk about for months and months. The excitement that tomorrow could be a breakthrough i think is waning slightly and there seems to be a little bit more opposition and hesitation

1:24:15 because it is a legally very complicated to release these frozen assets and spend them on fighting, on giving them to Ukraine in order to fight Russia. The legal complexity is one aspect and there was also political concern that Russia could then sue the countries who are holding these funds. Again what happened to he's gonna come invade us and kill us? Oh, yeah. That's a good point. He can sue us. But what got me on that clip was the fact that they're excited about stealing the money Yes! Very excited. Oh I'm... oh we're gonna steal the money this is great It makes you feel good it makes you feel like a man This shows you what a bunch of corrupt pricks are running these countries in Europe They're criminals Yes! Hello? Gambling Don't look at our capital there's no criminals there

1:25:07 Never, never happened. Let's listen to... Okay so I can play my Ukraine clips and it'll be the follow-up this will be the...I can't talk about this any after this We'll start with a Ukraine update, this is BBC clip. Reports say Washington has been pressuring European leaders not to use the money to help Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has again insisted he will achieve all of his expansionist goals in Ukraine, He said Russia would liberate what he called its historic lands by military force or diplomacy. Yeah this is kind of a meme in the British

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Expansionist Goals and Peace Proposals

Vladimir Putin reaffirmed his commitment to achieving military goals in Ukraine, referring to the territory as "historic lands." BBC correspondent Steve Rosenberg reported that Putin dismissed European warnings of a Russian threat as "hysteria" while insisting on peace only on his own terms. The hosts deconstruct the media's use of the word "claims" when reporting on Russian annexations.

vladimir putin· ukraine· nato· steve rosenberg· bbc· annexation

1:24:15 because it is a legally very complicated to release these frozen assets and spend them on fighting, on giving them to Ukraine in order to fight Russia. The legal complexity is one aspect and there was also political concern that Russia could then sue the countries who are holding these funds. Again what happened to he's gonna come invade us and kill us? Oh, yeah. That's a good point. He can sue us. But what got me on that clip was the fact that they're excited about stealing the money Yes! Very excited. Oh I'm... oh we're gonna steal the money this is great It makes you feel good it makes you feel like a man This shows you what a bunch of corrupt pricks are running these countries in Europe They're criminals Yes! Hello? Gambling Don't look at our capital there's no criminals there

1:25:07 Never, never happened. Let's listen to... Okay so I can play my Ukraine clips and it'll be the follow-up this will be the...I can't talk about this any after this We'll start with a Ukraine update, this is BBC clip. Reports say Washington has been pressuring European leaders not to use the money to help Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has again insisted he will achieve all of his expansionist goals in Ukraine, He said Russia would liberate what he called its historic lands by military force or diplomacy. Yeah this is kind of a meme in the British

1:26:01 circles is expansionist goals. Yeah, yeah! Expansionists revisionists you know... I look at the way this supposedly Russian you know part of early Russia people have to remember that where was modern Russia founded? Yes you mentioned that in the last show it's a Kiev or I'm sorry KIIIIVE! I want some chicken Kiev So that's where the modern Russia was founded in Kiev. So now you're just Putin's puppet talking about revisionists. Let's go with the Ukraine finale Over recent months and days European leaders have been warning that Russia poses a threat to the security of Europe despite ongoing peace negotiations in Ukraine on Tuesday European countries closest to Russia called on the EU to prioritize defending their borders

1:26:55 Today Vladimir Putin dismissed that as hysteria, but he says Russia will take Ukraine by military means unless Kiev and its allies do more to engage with US peace proposals. Our Russian editor Steve Rosenberg sent this report from Moscow. Is Vladimir Putin ready for peace? Does he accept the need for compromise It doesn't sound like it. President Putin told military chiefs that the goals of his special military operation would be achieved. Referring to Ukraine, Mr Putin said if the adversary and its foreign patrons do not want a substantive discussion then Russia will liberate its historic lands on the battlefield

1:27:41 historic lands that is a reference to Ukrainian territory. Moscow claims to have annexed... They've forgotten their history too, even when they're trying to make fun of it! And he says at the very end in the last three words, he says, claims to have annexed Yes claim, claim. They didn't annex it, they claimed. Anytime by the way people out there this one of our deconstruction tips, the use of the word claims is loaded and bullcrap. I mean, it should be he says but the fact that he claims to have annexed means it's you know in the mind...in your brain it puts a notion that this is not true or its dubious so the guy's a bad person or what claims So let's go to second clip He called for the expansion of a security buffer zone In other words, to seize even more Ukrainian land

1:28:37 His tone was defiant, belligerent and regarding European leaders abrasive. Everyone thought that in a short amount of time they could destroy Russia, President Putin said. And the European swine immediately joined the work of the previous US administration in hope of profiting from the collapse of Russia. Vladimir Putin claims, claims, claims, he does want peace but his comments suggest that's peace on his terms Over nearly four years of war his army has suffered huge losses on the battlefield

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

MI6 Recruitment, Python Programming and Global Threats

The new head of MI6, Blaze Florence Metreweli, issued a public statement identifying Russia as a "revisionist" threat and launching a recruitment drive for tech-fluent officers. She specifically called for experts in Python and data science to help the agency navigate the rise of China and the impact of AI. The hosts mock the specific mention of Python as a primary requirement for modern espionage.

mi6· blaze florence metreweli· python· recruitment· china· technology

1:29:14 And yet, Mr. Putin speaks positively about what has transpired He claimed today that thanks to the special military operation Russia had restored its status as a fully sovereign country Steve Rosenberg Yes Excellent Jew Okay That's a good one Yeah claims and claims and claims I mean this is terrible These guys are no good Well there is new player that has entered the field Our new player is Blaze Florence Metreweli. She's the new head of MI6 and she kind of cute actually in a spooky kind of way. What was her name again? Blaze, B-L-A-I-S-E, Florence Metreweli. Just look up MI6 chief

1:30:10 Interesting family background. Her dad, Konstantin Matrely was born as Konstantin Dobrowski and he was the son of a Nazi collaborator who operated in Oblast, the Nazi-occupied Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1943 so do you think she has skin in the game? Just from a background... She looks like a spook, are you kidding me? Yeah she's a total spook. But yeah she's from the Nazi party heritage of course we can't as Tucker would say we don't punish children for what their parents did no of course not but it is just interesting interesting tidbit because maybe she heard around the Christmas tree you know Putin bad Russia bad everybody bad

1:31:00 Hitler good. I don't know what she heard, but she came out and she did about an eight-minute statement And they pulled a couple of clips I'm going to break with tradition, and I won't give you a global threat tool But I will focus here on Putin's Russia. We all continue to face the menace of an aggressive expansionist and revisionists Russia. There it is Expansionist and revisionist Russia the scourge seeking to subjugate Ukraine and harass NATO I find it harrowing that hundreds of thousands have died with the toll mounting every day because of Putin's historical distortions and his compromised desire for respect. He is dragging out negotiations and shifting the cost of war onto his own population."

1:31:46 But Putin should be in no doubt, our support is enduring. The pressure we apply on Ukraine's behalf will be sustained because it is fundamental not just to European sovereignty and security but to global stability." Okay so Miss New Spike spook... spike spook I don't know why she did this but this turned into a recruitment video saying, you know we need more people in the MI6. We need spooks and a very specific kind of spook and many of our trolls in the troll room qualify Our world is being remade

1:32:28 And for the first time, we are all at the heart of it. My service must now operate in this new context too – not just expert on hostile states, terrorism, proliferation and more but also fluent in technology able to anticipate the second and third order effects of advances that reshape the world in minutes, not months. And as China will be a central part of the global transformation taking place this century it's essential that we, as MI6 continue to inform the government's understanding of China's rise and the implications for UK national security. Mastery of technology will infuse everything we do

1:33:10 Not just in our labs, but in the field. In our tradecraft and even more importantly... ...in the mindset of every officer We will become as comfortable with lines of code As we are with human sources As fluent in Python as we are in multiple other languages What? What?! Python! Hey ma'am Get a clue girl Rust is the new language Who do you talk to about Python Python. Python! Python! Python, that's fluent in Kurdish. We need to speak Python. ...will become as comfortable with lines of code as we are with human sources... ...as fluent in Python as we are in multiple other languages. Under my leadership, MI6 will continue to attract Britain's best— Hey, I'm a vibe coder in Python. Does that count?

1:33:58 We need vibe coders at MI6 people. Linguists and data scientists, case officers and engineers, behavioral experts and technologists we need people who walk in the shoes and get in the heads of our adversaries. We need people who think differently challenge assumptions and act decisively all can thrive and make a difference at MI6 Call 1-800-PYTHON. I just found that to be odd, that she's recruiting Python programmers. Python! And then listen to this 22 seconds and tell me if you think she's talking about the CIA? So we will work with our agents

1:34:39 And we will continue to engage directly and with respect with states and organizations currently working against us. Away from the glare of the media, we will use MI6's convening power wherever we can to make a material difference bringing parties together to defuse tensions." What do you think? When she said parties working against us... Yeah! I don't know if they're... She ends it with, to end tensions Well of course there's tension. We all know what you're doing! I have to believe that they are clueless about this and the reason is, so i had a chat with Telegraph Really? MI6 is doing most of the PSYOPs on Candace Owens Yeah but I don't think that they're clued into...I'm not convinced that they are completely clued in with what Trump's up too Really? They're that dumb

1:35:36 Well, this brings me to a conversation I had with our columnist buddy at The Telegraph which is UK's most honest newspaper. I had a chat with Orlowski... Formerly wasn't he the registrar before? Yeah he was the registry guy and he said that he admires the nexus arguments that we've been making. He actually listens of the show Oh hey Orlowski Andrew how you doing buddy And so he says, but he says that they're so stupid that there's no way that this is... you know they're just too dumb to do anything. He says you have no idea how stupid ruling classes are here and I said yeah well the fact that we could figure out what they were up to shows how stupid they are! I think it's just a confirmation of it that we're right Yeah and the counter argument to him was he couldn't rebuff it? No, of course he can

1:36:27 Because so it's like you know, so we have to assume there is a stupidity level and naivete at some point. And this woman doesn't look like a brainiac and she says Python! You made my point if your talking we need python Which may somehow be related to AI. Someone told her, all this AI stuff it's all written in Python so we need Python coders! Okay I'll do a call up for Python coders fine yeah i'll get my uh what's that thing called? My PyCharm IDE I'll get that all rocking yeah I'm ready both who are we hitting first who is the first adversary

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

European Conscription, Youth Protests in Germany

UK Air Chief Marshal Sir Richard Knighton warned that British families must prepare for the sacrifice of war, while thousands of young Germans in Berlin and Munich protested the return of voluntary military service. The "Sauerkraut Kid" meme is introduced to describe German youth resisting conscription. The hosts suggest European youth are more concerned with housing and the presence of wealthy Ukrainian refugees than fighting a war.

conscription· germany· military service· richard knighton· nato· tiktok

1:37:10 On the other side of the equation is UK Air Chief Marshal, I think that means he's in charge of the air force? I have no idea. Probably. Yeah and this guy... Sounds right This guy's name is Sir Richard Knighton And here's what he said Perhaps the most obvious impact on all of us will be the cost of building dis-resilience Sons and daughters colleagues veterans will all have a part to play to build, to serve and if necessary... ...to fight. And more families will know what sacrifice for our nation means." Oh yeah! That's going over real big in England What? WHAT?! You want us to fight who?? Fight what??? WHAT!? War?!? Huh? No no no son we're not gonna do that there is not a single British kid wants to do this

1:38:09 Remember when this kicked off, there are all these TikTok videos? I'm not fighting. They're not going to fight! I got other things to do and in Germany where they just reinstated the registration for voluntary service... Oh the kids there aren't having it either Early December in Berlin instead of being in class thousands of young Germans are out on the streets protesting return of military service For this generation, about to reach adulthood the countdown has already started. From January onwards young men like Ruben and Ivar must register for potential military service. I think it's outrageous that i can't even decide for myself whether i'm going to the front or not. Young people were hit hardest by Covid-19. Noodle boy!

1:38:57 as a sauerkraut kid. Young people were hit the hardest by COVID-19 and by all sorts of state decisions, and now on top of that they want to send us towards war! It's nonsense! Berlin has voted to reintroduce voluntary military service but with a clause that worries youngsters most if recruitment numbers fall short conscription becomes compulsory again Across the country, it's all hands to the pumps. Anti-conscription committees have sprung up like here in Munich. My sign says form committees say no to mobilization for war For Tim and his friends who stage agitprop events and rallies stopping re-militarisation is now urgent I don't want Germany to be involved in another war or even to be able to start one

1:39:42 That's exactly where this return, or rather reactivation of conscription will lead. So yeah they're not like American kids I'm gonna get them ragheads! Towel heads here we come! Watch out Saddam! No it was like uh-uh It's ridiculous Oh i can't believe that they want me to go fight I can even choose if I want to die I can't even choose where to go. Yeah, noodle boy! No, sauerkraut kid that's the new one. That's the German noodle boy. Sauerkraut Kid. That's what he is

1:40:19 So, no one. But Europe is the thing... The Europeans don't even read it. First of all everybody's tuned out No one's listening to this nonsense All they know is there are rovers and Bentleys and high-end vehicles parked on sidewalks with Ukrainian license plates occupying homes that they can't rent That's what the kids care about because that's the reality of the situation And they're sick of that They're like, eh what is this? And they're not...they're tuned out. They're not listening to all this nonsense It's like I can't even get a home to rent if i want one So they're not listening and now all of the sudden it says hey All that stuff you haven't been paying attention too well now you gotta go Cannon fodder Yeah cannon fodder Cannon fodder They realize it yeah It's sad, its sad, sad, sad and I just don't see a rosy future for The European Union

1:41:19 Well, I never saw a rosy future for them personally. Well the whole thing was kind of a strange idea to begin with but yeah... It was only done to fight us The whole reason for the European Union from the get-go was to create an economic system that had less problems with moving goods in between countries and being able to consolidate an operation that can compete with the United States. And it turns out China was the real problem? Yes, now they're doing the Mercure agreement I think its called Mercure

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

Brown University Shooting, Targeted Republican Theory

A shooting at Brown University resulted in two deaths, including the vice president of the campus Republican Club. Fox News host Jesse Watters and a criminal profiler questioned the competence of the local investigation and suggested the victim may have been specifically targeted for her political affiliations. Witnesses reported the shooter shouted something before firing, but the specific words have not been released by police.

brown university· shooting· jesse watters· providence· republican club

1:41:56 where they're opening up trade with some South American countries and all the farmers are like, what? Those guys can use fertilizer we can't. They can shoot up their cattle with anything that we can't and so now we're gonna be importing food from other countries. They are truly nuts! It's bad. Christina is going to be arriving here she'll be here about 630 tonight I'm gonna work on these kids for a week don't go back Don't go back. They're gonna go back anyway, that's my guess But they'll be you know Okay I got a couple clips it going to domestic stuff I want to get the Reiner stuff out of the way we didn't talk about in The Last Show We Didn't Want To yeah but more importantly is this Brown shooting

1:42:49 Yes, yes. And I thought from the get-go that it was a targeted shooting of the Republican girl and... I don't know anything about the Republican girl One, two people died and one of them was the head of the second or vice president Republican Club at Brown University. And there's probably five Republicans at Brown University. And none of them are my family members because all my cousins went to Brown. Well that's all Democrats and liberals, it's all progressives now. It's super tards! All of them I love him but they're tards So you end up with this woman killed and so it seemed like a targeted killing. And there's room full of 20 to 60 people, and the guy comes in and yells something and then shoots her! Then some other guy gets shot and he peppers the place and nicks 11 other people... Not one person can say what he said

1:43:44 I know what he said. Okay, let's go. 11 people shot... Wait a minute! Kill the Republican fascist is what he said? Is that what he said? That's my guess. Oh okay. Now this is, they still have to set it up This is Jesse Watters and he brought on a guy who is First, he gives a little overview of the incompetence of the investigation. And then he brings in a guy who... Part two, the second clip brings in a guy who's a profiler. So part one- Eleven people shot, two dead. One was like the most prominent Republican on campus

1:44:20 And we don't have any answers or videos or pictures. We don't know what he shouted, if he had an accomplice the size of his gun the number of witnesses where is how he got out and the people trying to ask questions are getting told shut up by the Rhode Island Senator for people who have no idea what they're talking about to offer their stupid and ill informed views about what happened all over the Internet So I would please, just from a law enforcement perspective ask anyone who sees this to just shut up. They're asking for the public's help but they're telling us to shut up? They arrested the wrong guy got no video and didn't even know if the brown cop cars had dash cams there are in no position to lecture anybody This is completely unacceptable The whole thing Ah obvious Mossad

1:45:16 So they bring this guy in and this just makes my point, but the incompetence of this investigation and this guy, the chief of police's Perez character. The whole thing is hilarious as far as I'm concerned but this is the part that I'm absolutely convinced that this was a hit job on this woman. Comes out and that's it kind of mad at the school or was he going in there to kill a specific individual Yeah, my earliest media hit on Monday morning That's what I said And as soon as I saw the name Of miss cook who was vice president of the of the Republican Club. I just couldn't rule that out I look at this is a profiler. I've been on many task force task forces over the years anthrax and

1:46:13 murder of a DEA agent, two professors murdered at Dartmouth College at their home. And we have to walk in with every single option where was someone specifically targeted? And to me it's more than a coincidence that this young woman was killed who happens to be one of the few probably representatives on the Republican side of the house in that uh... particular very far left university something isn't right there and just before anything else i'm also a forensic linguist what the heck did that guy yell when he walked in the door for such a thing as your witness evidence not just eyewitness ear witness somebody has to know and if it comes out later than the brown people brown university or the province p d is holding back with this person said because it wasn't politically correct

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Secret Santa, Burlington Department Store Generosity

An anonymous "Secret Santa" paid off $8,000 in layaway accounts at a Burlington department store in Wilmington, Delaware. The donor, who has reportedly performed similar acts of generosity for 25 years, cleared balances for 50 different families. The hosts contrast this anonymous act with modern influencers who film their charitable deeds for social media engagement.

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1:46:57 That's going to be really, really a problem. Yeah that's gonna have legal repercussions and that's where it stands. Well that's a better theory than I've heard. I just see a lot of people posting about how they don't know anything and it was DEI guys and all kinds of nonsense... It's all sad. It's always sad real Casper milk toast is the mayor to the whole thing is pretty funny Well, it is sad but hey I have the first one of the season it did not come from Walmart Burlington are you familiar with Burlington? Burlington factory Berlin well they've they have a chain of the train company now Burlington department stores I think it is I've never seen one. I don't think they're in California But they are the first

1:47:49 This year, first sighting of the Secret Santa. An anonymous Santa has been performing Christmas miracles by paying off layaway accounts at a Burlington near Wilmington down in Delaware I just love this story the man he spent about $8,000 paying off 50 accounts with balances ranging from thirty eight dollars to hundreds of dollars. He then walked out of the store refused to be recognized for his generosity and this man has apparently been quietly paying off these layaways for 25 years he agreed to go on the record if he could remain anonymous.

1:48:36 I would give them the score. They win! The timing was good, they got it out there You heard it? We put on this show... Here we go! I always go..I do have Google Alerts set up I'm always like is there a secret Santa? That's a good idea Well the new thing is influencers which I am sure can also be paid Like an influencer goes in and pays but But they're not paying because the influencers are not going to do anything anonymous Hello No that's not good for your influencer score. So they go to the exit of the store and say, Hey here's a grand! Go pay off your layaway. Yay it's a couple thousand dollars look at me like and subscribe smash that like button. Like is smash the button. Speaking of you know Tina and I we love our Christmas movies

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Netflix Christmas Movies, Oscars Move to YouTube

The hosts critique the current wave of Netflix and Amazon Christmas movies, noting a lack of realism in their depictions of London. The Academy Awards announced a move from ABC to YouTube starting in 2029, signaling the decline of "linear TV." One host mentions a recent guest appearance on the Grimerica podcast to discuss media theories and Canadian culture.

netflix· oscars· youtube· linear tv· kiefer sutherland· grimerica

1:49:24 And really, yeah we do. And Netflix and Amazon have flooded the zone with crap with wow there are a couple good ones We've enjoyed a few but I'd say about 75% We know the story, we know it's going to be romantic love interest. But the actors they look like they failed at gay porn! It's really unbelievable every single time you can now you can just look at the icon like nope we're not gonna watch that this is some guy who failed at the gay porn industry and now he's acting in these Christmas movies but Kiefer Sutherland has a good one out Tinseltown which is cute but also there most of them are in London they're all in London for some reason

1:50:11 And it's the most unbelievable thing you've ever seen. Not a single Muslim on the street, oh it's so pretty! London is so nice there at Christmas time with all kinds of white people walking around with packages and holiday cheer No Muslims come on Netflix Come on They're trying to bullshit ya Big-time Okay, well speaking of this I gotta be able to talk about that sort of thing is you brought it up This is it, Oscars? Did you hear about this? It's funny. I was just about to play my Oscars clip so we'll play yours from the BBC The Oscars are to be streamed on YouTube from 2029 after the tech firm outbid traditional broadcasters it will be free for more than 2 billion global users Here's the CBS version a little bit longer The biggest night in Hollywood is on the move! The Oscars are leaving ABC and linear TV in 2028

1:51:14 streaming on YouTube in 2029 through 2033. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences says it struck this deal, which includes the red carpet to allow the Oscars to reach the largest worldwide audience possible. The Oscars have aired on ABC for half a century and YouTube declined to tell us how much they paid for these rights but had been paying about $100 million a year. Now this shift reflects the way viewers are consuming content nowadays and underlines the dominance of YouTube, which is owned by Google Well, there's really a couple things at play here that I think are worth the short discussion. The first is no linear timeline. You know this is well this is a big deal you don't have to hit the news and like oh we're running late Oh hurry up everybody oh we cut this we cut that so they can just run for hours and hours which of course is also the downside

1:52:07 Because it will be even more boring. Yeah, it's gonna be even more boring than ever Yes And by the way should mention that her actual use of the term linear TV Oh see yeah? Yeah I thought was interesting because they're now making their They're making the cut this is like a moment in time where okay There's two things here we got linear TV That's different And we have our, you know, internet stuff. Well the difference and I noticed this so much You know like a buddy of mine has a morning show here and he had to fill in for the next host her husband was sick or whatever And he says hey can i call you for a hit? He was making a joke but it we both think is kind of not funny

1:52:56 And, you know so then we have to talk in between the commercial breaks. I hate it! It's like... You can't- you feel rushed. You can't just say something and i'm constantly being barraged by Dutch television shows and radio show Hey when you happen to be in Holland We want you to come on our show Like no No, i'm not gonna sit there and have to be rushed because we got oh we got sorry gotta cut you off We gotta go Oh end of the show Sucks it's like this podcast you imagine like oh John we got to oh, oh. Oh, we're two minutes over time It's already three o'clock. We already missed the affiliates We miss the news at the top of the hour oh no about about the commercials now all of that is it's annoying

1:53:44 And just how television people in general are. We want to interview you and... Okay, well that's fine I'll do an interview Yes so we'll have Babette and she'll call you tomorrow for the pre-interviews Pre-interview? No! But everybody does the pre-interview I'm not doing your pre-interview I'm not interested Let's have it be spontaneous. Oh, oh no! Can't have it spontaneous? I kind of understand the position about that if they don't know you because some people just can't carry a Spontaneous interview that's the problem yeah by the way just to plug something on the late I'll be on the latest Grime-erica show I did How'd that go? I did a one hour hit You did a hit?! And uh

1:54:37 I thought it went well. I got to plug the show quite a bit we talked a little bit about your theories and my theories and our theories and They were there it was good. It was moved along. It was a good conversation those two guys are pretty good. They've done great Yeah, they're gotten yeah There are disciples Graham in end and Grimes Graham and grime's day and cheese if they are our disciples Yeah, they are big fans of the show. Yes we have bred them They've been bred out of the no agenda Gitmo nation soil that's where they've come from I'm very proud of them

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Meta Lawsuit, Sextortion and Digital ID

Two unsealed lawsuits in California allege that Meta knowingly allowed sexual predators to target children on its platforms to avoid losing 1.5 million users. The suits claim Meta's AI-driven recommendation engine acted as a hunting ground for the "764" predator group, leading to cases of teen suicide. The hosts discuss the potential for these tragedies to be used as a pretext for mandatory digital IDs.

meta· mark zuckerberg· sextortion· fbi· digital id· 764 group

1:55:14 It's like a millennial media offensive. And I gave him a nod by talking about hockey for a few minutes before we got into any real topics. You did that, huh? Wow! Yeah... Something you gotta do if you're talking to Canadians. He switched from sumo to hockey. You are so multi-talented. Got a note from Rob the constitutional lawyer this morning about two newly unsealed lawsuits in California which alleged that Meta, Meta knowingly connected sexual predators with kids. Knowingly? It's a new day there's a predator what are we going to do with him let's connect them to the kid little Joyce over there little 12 year old let's put him up put them together pretty much sure pretty much the Predators posed as young girls and persuaded teenage boys to send sexually explicit photos this of course is part

1:56:08 Part of the 764. Once the predators had the photos in hand, they'd spring the trap and sextort... ...the teen boys by threatening to send the pics to their friends and family These two boys ended up killing themselves And now their parents are suing But Ameta allegedly knew that it's here comes AI driven follower suggestion engine Did you think that's on a paper somewhere? What, you got both? You both have the AI-driven follower suggestion engine. At least give it an acronym. AdFASOO as a hunting ground for sexual predators. But instead of taking simple safety precautions, it purportedly called in its growth team which estimated that safety precautions would cost 1.5 million users a year so the AI driven recommendations allegedly... How do you figure? Because of the exploding gas tank

1:57:06 Yeah, and they did a calculation saying yeah we better pay... It's better that they die and we give them the two million bucks as opposed to doing the retooling. So instead of losing 1.5 million teen users a year from their platform not from life The AI driven recommendations allegedly continued affecting some 2 million child accounts in three months Of these 22% resulted in follow requests Moreover, while AI is adept at connecting people it's allegedly not good at stopping sextortion once it begins. According to the suit reporting mechanisms are broken and Meta refuses to act which brings me to several notes we received from people who were appalled that we were laughing about this Yes I got that but before you go there I want to mention one thing Why don't they just try to find these guys and arrest them?

1:58:04 Why, with suing Meta, why don't you try to find the 765? Does it take a genius to track down somebody? You know are they that good come on. Well according to Dame Chaos Pixie, husband to Dame Chaos Pixie I'm sorry every one of the 15 nationwide FBI offices has at least two of these cases that they're working The group loves to prey on tweens and teens yeah okay we understand how it works I read almost daily the reports where spurned exes threaten to share nudes or scammers try to get money out of victims by threatening the same. These 764 victims are not the same thing." Okay, so it's easy to mock the victims of exes and scammers these kids are actual victims but the thing is

1:58:54 We were talking about digital ID as the obvious solution to this and maybe... Yeah, that was my retort to the note. Which is what Kash Patel himself has pretty much said I think it behooves the FBI to not pick these people up immediately because they want digital ID And by the way This is a good point. In other words, sit on the investigation so we can make it worse and we can then get our way. Get our way exactly and I'll just say I know a lot of kids teenagers up to driving age who do not have a phone And all the parents are like, ehh we're not going to give my kid a phone. Okay you know what these kids actually stand out

1:59:43 I think they're smarter, they have better communication skills. They're doing better with the opposite sex because they hang out at group meetings like church crazy and the only thing that most of them have is they get an Apple watch which they can text with and the parents lock down all of the other apps, which I think is decent. It's reasonable you can't go crazy texting on your Apple Watch can only send a mom like hey mom can pick me up? You know that's it and they do stuff together They play golf all kinds of outdoor activities Yes Golfing is big in Texas Golfing is big everywhere yeah so

2:00:35 The real the parents are the problem. That's that's the problem They just yeah, the parents are on the phone half the time Oh, it's the best example for your kid Yeah, they're on the phone all the time. The parents are on the phone Scrolling I would see and I can't tell you how many people have almost these guys are walking down this street them I don't get it You're walking down the street reading your phone. You're not even looking up You know, every once in a while you want to kind of move just through a certain... You're seeing the guy. Here he comes or girl. It doesn't matter if the sex is irrelevant. They're walking up the street and they're looking at their phone, boom-boom, walking along and you just wanna walk in a certain way and just kinda walk in front of them as they... And then stop as if you've been standing there and let him walk right into ya'. You do this on a regular basis? I do it as much as I can

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Modern Podcast Apps, Art Competition and Scaramanga

The hosts promote modern podcasting apps like Podverse and Fountain that support live streaming and value-for-value features. They praise Darren O'Neill's AI-generated artwork for the show while addressing rumors that long-time contributor Scaramanga is leaving the art competition due to his submissions not being selected.

podcastapps.com· darren o'neill· scaramanga· ai art· podverse· fountain

2:09:01 Modern podcast apps you can get one at podcast apps.com and We have this live feature a lot of these shows alive with Darren goes like rock more pre-show when planet rage goes, right? Everyone's doing this live stuff and it's in the same app It's it's like is like an awakening. Ah I can get a live show and on demand Yes within 90 seconds of publishing You'll see it show up in your modern podcast app So what would be a modern podcast app? Podverse, Fountain, True Fans, Podcast Guru. Let's look at podcastapps.com

2:09:41 Let me tell you, there's a lot of them. So True Fans Podverse, Podcast Guru Castamatic Fountain Ellen Beat CurioCaster, Podcast Addict, Pod LP. There is a lot of them! Yeah, Pod LP is for the old... this big in South American Africa they have the flip phones that cheap Chinese things Yeah, there's a ton of Pocket Casts. I don't think... I don't know if Pocket does live yet but there is.. those are the ones that do the live stuff There is alot! It's an amazing little thing we've done here We saved podcasting! Saved it from the evil empire! Maybe you'll get your Peabody award? No, I doubt it You know what, I will refuse it

2:10:34 Like Kanye, be like I'm gonna flush it down the toilet if they send one to me. We do the show Value for Value, which we pioneered years ago knowing that audience capture was not our game. We also never really wanted to have any kind of conversation with advertisers because it's a pain in the butt if you have some kind of product and you want to support us and then you got to mention your product will talk about it And if we like it will say we like it If we don't well just like okay thanks No, some of the stuff we can't check. Like we don't know... We're not near Martel hardware. We have not checked Martel hardware. Correct! I'm sure he seems like a good guy? Yeah, seems like a very good guy although according to him you blocked him! You blocked his email! Yeah, I said that and noticed it. You have no idea what people get so your email server returns a message and has a little traffic light

2:11:35 With the red illuminated, like you've been blocked for unspecified... For spam or language. Language! Language! Usually for language yeah if you cuss me out in the email it will get through Oh there ya go No, that eliminates 40% of your email. That's not a bad idea. Not at all! So you can support the show time talent treasure is what we accept time and talent you know giving us boots on the ground report organizing a meetup helping us out in any kind of production way or still looking for a great idea for Christmas show had a couple some interesting ones like

2:12:15 I would love to hear some producer notes. Can you imagine having to figure out which producer notes to put in? That's still good. Someone like, Red Book Show! Okay where were you in 2024? We did the red book show and I appreciate that everyone is thinking about it. What was the other one? Tips of the day...I don't think we have enough tips today Yeah there are not that many No its not enough You know what was it Oh, election predictions. Well that'll be a 25 minute show. That's no good. We've only had a few elections. Four? Are we on our fourth? Let me see Obama...

2:12:55 Biden Trump's we've had five. We had two Obamas, two Obamas but we caught both of them I think didn't we? Yeah yeah we had to Obama's a Trump, two Trumps, a Biden and Biden and Trump so that's five. Five elections! We gotta hang our hats off man it's getting crazy It's an epoch okay it's the fifth turning One of the ways you can support us is by making artwork or prompting away on the latest model, whatever you got. And it's just amazing I don't know how he does it but Darren O'Neill has mastered AI because... He also was a funny guy and mean he understands the wishes of the taskmaster

2:13:43 You know, you want to have something that pertains to what's talked about in the show. You want to make it look kind of quirky or funny... Or something that even if people don't know what's in the show they go like oh! That's interesting and he did this was the MUK Ultra Show 1825 He did a bunch of drones getting caught up in their fiber optic cables and looking all scared about it And he's like yeah, he nailed it. He just totally gets it and most people don't Which is sad. And then they get mad, like I know ScareManga's mad He's mad. I'm leaving the competition! Did he say that? Mmm to someone else privately which of course that person immediately sent me a copy of it It was like- Of course this is what we do That's what moles are for and the reason I haven't been mentioned- Our tentacles are everywhere He said the reason I haven't been mentioned in months

2:14:39 So let's mention him. He has been mentioned more than a few times in months No, no no yeah no mentioned not picked he is just like you know that you're not picking my art well because it's always the same It's always cleavage Yeah your right it's always the same I was like okay Let's look at his last submissions. I don't think he submitted recently He hasn't submitted for a while what does he expect? let me see... He is leaving the competition! let me see now again, I'm gonna get in trouble for even saying that Yeah was too late because my informant Your informants you got your informant in trouble I just burned by I just burned my source Burned your source

2:15:25 Here, let's look under artists. Hold on a second. Let me see... Artists alright. Darren, Dan, Jan, Martin Wow he's not even on the list? Where is he? There he is! Scaramanga. 427 submitted. Last one submitted December 11th Oh, okay. He did the... What? Yeah December 11th he did the Pocky Rice Dog. Not funny. Okay AI is dumb not funny but read a book with you know kiss on the boat yeah But since we're gonna be slamming again let me get it bring up the art too The last one I liked was The Frenchie Assassin but you didn't like it because it had Brigitte Macron as a monkey As a monkey on the wall

2:16:13 So it turns out that ScareManga is only good at one thing, it's cheesecake. And he's really good at it! But when he tries to do something else... He's just mediocre I mean I'm not trying to be mean or anything Yeah you are very mean to him but I think this justified considering that he has quit the competition He left the cult His little Paki Rice thing is kind of cute. I liked it, but he didn't like this- There was something better at the time! There was just something better...I don't know what it was? Trump with a bone in his mouth is no good. Wrestling raccoons has potential He's just barely missing You know what? The cartoonish things, I'm over it Jeffrey Rhea. I'm just over it you got to be a lot better

2:17:06 cartoonish thing. That model sucks and let me see what else I like Joy Burglar which is another Darren O'Neill piece you didn't like it was okay yeah that wasn't gonna fight you on it Yeah, that's it. I see lots of menorahs for today We should put a Hanukkah Menorah on the artwork and let everyone go insane No they'll go nuts Oh no! See? I told you They got a dreidel So anyway, thank you Darren O'Neill. Great job as always brother we appreciate you. Appreciate you doing the Rock and Roll Pre-Show every Thursday and Sunday before we go live it's always a great way to get into the mood now I have no evidence that he complains. Darren never complains! No, he is not a complainer. He is not

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Executive Producer Donations, Wooden Vapes and Big Knob Calculators

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including Sir Mike of the Fair Tax, who is transitioning from wooden watches to "Axehead Vapes." Sir Jacobus Boersma promotes his new book, *Zero Knowledge Wisdom*, while another producer, Sir Migdala, introduces a specialized "Big Knob" calculator for converting millimeters to inches, available at stipix.net.

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2:18:04 So now we start by thanking all of our supporters, $50 and above. And in this segment we thank the executive and associate executive producers why? Because they have supported us with enough money to get one of those credits just like Hollywood does! Those people don't actually... All they do is hang out on the set look important They get a folding chair with their name on it because they ponied up and if they're lucky they get some out of it. Well, when you support us you get great value out of it and you're probably supporting us for the great value you already received such as Joseph Salasauer from Melbourne Florida who came in with $500 I don't see a note for him we have no note from Joseph. I can't find one so executive producership for him and he will get a double up karma! You've got

2:18:52 Hopefully he'll send something in and we can read it later. Sir Mike of the Fair Tax in Clinton Township, Michigan 333 dot 33 in the morning John and Adam is a long note by the way this is sir Mike at the fair tax baron of Lichtenstein moderator liberator of Michigan 10 formerly of Axehead Watch or Axehead watch guy A few months ago, my fellow MI Tenors Tom Hartman wrote in to tell of how I helped him start his own watch company. Megatimewatch.com. Okay. Oh! I remember this guy the wooden watches yeah Yeah you got a wooden watch from him? Yeah. So I got it somewhere. Tom has not been moving product as well as i had been and I think he's giving up

2:19:48 He doesn't donate often, so I tried making a $55 donation in his name so he would get some karma. Instead you guys read my name and I had to explain to people why I, a Libertarian Party candidate was plugging a watch with very Republican sounding name Tom still uses the shipping station in my basement I used for Axehead and employees Dame Kelly to ship them out. But now, I'm ready for these things to be out of my basement. Oh it's a fire sale! This is the fire sale use code ITM or 50% off of the new Christmas sale. I'll be sure to tell him about all Christmas karma for Tom please okay you get some karma PSR at PS

2:20:40 Axe head watch will be returning as axe head vape. Oh no! A wooden vape, fully made in the United States of wooden dry herb vaporizers in time for 420 Merry Christmas. Well just a complicated note I couldn't really read. Weed vapes man... You've got karma Sir Jacobus Boersma, wow he sounds Dutch from Ormond Beach Florida 333.33 ITM Adam and John I've been listening to you guys since the very beginning it's been a wild 18 years all of your considerable effort is greatly appreciated and I denounce all of the freeloaders who have failed to support the V4V model as do we

2:21:25 This donation serves to both support the show and an ounce to the NA community, the publishing of my new book. Zero Knowledge Wisdom available globally on Amazon It's a compendium of wisdom universal truths and life lessons zero knowledge wisdom is full of practical information that challenges conventional thinking and should resonate with the no agenda audience it's a great tool for starting 2026 on the right foot And John has even quoted in The Wisdom Of The Greats section Well, I'd like to know what that is. Yeah something i said yeah sock hop well Well, I tried to secure endorsements from one or both of you before publishing it didn't work out however if either of you want to endorse It live and or are interested in authoring the forward John apparently enjoys doing forwards That would be great Thank you for your courage and here's two four more years well here you go now. I'll do mine

2:22:21 Zero-knowledge wisdom is like the modern day book of Proverbs. Here's mine, a must buy! Exclamation point Oh brother, oh brother. Well just get a hold of me you know this funny because that's a good idea for a book there was two books volume one and volume two that came out in the 30s of such a book and I had copy of volume 2 it was all these just all kinds of little sayings and wisdom I never could find the first volume. I've always wanted to collect it, and now I can't even remember the name of the author but it's not a bad idea for a book. All right onward Parker... Geist White This is my buddy here in Fredericksburg. I have coffee with him about once a month he is my mentee and

2:23:23 He didn't send a note. No, and he claims to be in College Station Texas Well he's coming And he came with 300 bucks just give him a double up karma and then find out later what do you want? What does he wants? I'm pretty sure it's for his birthday. He's turning 30 But I don't know if it is today or tomorrow so I'll put them on the birthday list anyway Parker You didn't have to do that brother but I appreciate it executive producer for Parker! You've got Ah, there he is. Christopher Graves, Somerset California 242 Thank you for your courage to all the producers who have already taken advantage of our ITM 10 plus 10 When I left my corporate job and went back to candy making I knew that my holidays would be spent working 16 hours a day for 45 days straight And while i've had years that I felt blessed this year I feel more blessed than ever So with sore feet and a worn out back

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2:25:14 You're not using IE3, you idiot. It took you like two beats too long Well yeah because i'm trying to figure out what we... okay Onward Dylan uh Dylan good old Dylan Langa or Lange in the What is it, Chilliwack? Chilliwack BC Canada. Yeah looks like it. Chilliwack. I think I may have even been there. Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, I appreciate all the hard work you guys do! I never miss an episode and always listen to the full episode even the donation segments which I'm now in yep this donation puts me past the threshold to be a no agenda night of The Roundtable I'd like to be known as Sir Dill Pickle

2:25:55 Also, please send me to the birthday list. I turn 34 on December 20th No G no jiggles no karma says jiggles no jiggles given no jiggles no karma Thanks for all you do cheers Dylan Lange from Chilliwick British Columbia PS shout out to Tony Lang Okay Jeremy Brogan is next from Amherst Ohio associate executive producer shift for him 222 dot 3070 cents in a note ITM gents, Merry Christmas. I hope this message finds you well. Rove ducks plus bank fees plus Georgia font for my boy JCD It is actually very nice it's very readable Ablated happy birthday to my keeper Laura she celebrated on December 5th Sufferance Suckertash please oh I didn't see that request Scott Scott Simon

2:26:52 Okay, here we go. Suffering Succotash please and whatever karma would be appropriate for a human resource about to propose? Oh! Thank you for your attention to this matter five to eight more years Jeremy Brogan Amherst Ohio Suffering Succotash I'm Scott Simon You've got karma Sir My... Migdala. My Migdala! Sir Migdala, I think it's sir Migdala just sir Migdala In Mineola Florida 222 this is the duck of roe ducks, duck of rose Hi guys

2:27:34 I'm working on my exit strategy. I designed a nerdy product for engineers and others who regularly need to connect between... Convert, convert! Convert, convert, convert between millimeters and inches it's a calculator with big knob and bright seven It's got a big knob!! It's got a big knob is what you want in the Bright 7 segment LED displays There are three keyboard buttons to reset, to switch between entering millimeters and inches. And to adjust the input precision. Wow! They can't visualize this...

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CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

AELA Dissonance Modulator, Eric Weinstein on Joe Rogan

Producer Luke Cumberland introduces the AELA Dissonance Modulator, a browser extension designed to suppress online entropy and clickbait. The hosts compare the complex technical language of the proposal to a recent "irritating" Joe Rogan episode featuring mathematician Eric Weinstein discussing evolutionary hypotheses and physics.

aela· browser extension· eric weinstein· joe rogan· dissonance· black hole

2:28:57 And then we got a note from Luke Cumberland from Oxford, Missouri. I don't know if i can even understand what to read here he says in the morning please bear with me initiating value for value protocol introducing AELA system dedicated to achieving computational continuity safety and coherence via algorithmic governance whoa it is my pleasure to help produce your dynamite show I'm preoccupied with superpositions, conceptually for instance 1. A set not a spectrum containing everything between O and 2 we can learn a lot from that set of infinite probabilities namely observation resolves the set into reality

2:29:44 So preoccupied when a magnetohydrodynamic system occurred to me. Does he have a website for this? This, you know I was driving back from Austin yesterday... This is one of those guys who's going to invent the time machine Or zero point energy Well same thing Well so what does he have now? What, I don't understand what it is First public Iteration of this work is the AELA Dissonance Modulator Browser Extension. Okay, so A-E-L-L-A Dissonance Modulator Browser Extension function. It grants user a volumetric control axis enforcing constraints on web chaos

2:30:27 It actively measures and suppresses dissonance, entropy auto-collapsing distracting feeds and animation and clickbait headlines for a low dissonance online experience. He has a GitHub coming." Okay well let me know when... And he has a VPN protocol coming too! Let me know and I'll gladly mention it on the show whatever website you have but this is a bit like yesterday i was driving back from Austin A lot of traffic And I'm like, oh it's a new J. Where'd you go to Austin? Have my hair cut...my girl. Okay. You know get the ladies... Did she learn anything at the barber? Nothing no nothing nothing No she can't talk about stuff anymore because they were afraid that she was turning MAGA

2:31:12 So now we can't talk. Because they don't poison you there? They might have, I don't know but so i flip on Joe Rogan because he's got again... He just had him on what's that guy from Black Horse black dark horse? I don't know yeah come on one of the brothers One of the brothers! The brother is a black guy?! No What's his name? With Heather. He is with...with Heather, with Heather. Oh Weinstein! Weinstein thank you. Weinstein The thin one or the big one? The big one. What's his name? So he had the big one on. Yeah that's Eric. Eric Weinstein yes Is that Eric? Yes. Yeah Eric is the big one Well it's the biologist No no the biologists are the other Weinstein, the skinny one

2:32:03 Eric is the mathematician who works with Peter Thiel. He's a big fat guy. No, not the big head no no And he's the guy who kept begging to be Joe Rogan's friend on one of his shows Okay so it was Brent? Brent. Brett? Is it Bret? Brett. If we're a mess... We're terrible! Yeah, I asked to come back on because there's something really important. And then he went... Oh brother! It was like another media whore. Oh it was the worst. I mean I love Joe but it was the worst and I tried to stick after 44-45 maybe almost an hour and he's talking about how evolution happens and this is a solution not just a fold

2:32:45 And my eyes like, oh man this is the worst idea. I think Joe thought he had some kind of major scientific breakthrough. Every five minutes it's like so my hypothesis is what I'm putting on the table? Oh no! I could tell that Joe was irritated Oh man. Anyway, Luke Cumberland your note was very similar to that Joe Rogan episode so send me a link to your browser extension you're up next oh I'm sorry i was hypnotized by that fascinating story Eli the coffee guy well I get him

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Walmart Razor Blade Scare, Dan Bongino FBI Resignation

Police in Biloxi, Mississippi, are investigating reports of razor blades found inside loaves of bread at two Walmart locations. In political news, Dan Bongino reportedly resigned from his potential role as Deputy Director of the FBI after less than a year, with the hosts speculating he preferred podcasting over "desk work."

walmart· razor blades· biloxi· dan bongino· fbi· gigawatt coffee

2:33:30 You know where he's from? Yes. Bensonville, Illinois that's right to 1217 yeah with all the doom and gloom clogging up the news cycle ISIS back in back in rotation war with Venezuela and now apparently razor blades showing up Oh bonus clip Did I? I think I clipped that. Do you have the razor blade clip? I think i do, hold on a second... It's showing up in Walmart bread! Uh yes, I have it here Lots of new information we're learning this morning about razor blades that were shoved into loaves of bread at two walmart locations here in Biloxi and we're also learning this morning that this has been going on for more than a week and it has taken Walmart

2:34:13 apparently more than 10 days to contact police about this issue. Also new this morning, we're receiving pictures check these out that were sent to us from a viewer who purchased a loaf of bread let me bring you up to speed on this yesterday Monday Biloxi Police around noon received a call from Walmart here on CT Switzer the Walmart Superstore that managers have been receiving complaints from customers finding razors in their bread. When workers in the deli went to inspect loaves of bread, they found even more razor blades. A Biloxi police officer showed up and took a report. And a little while later, Biloxi Police was called again this time from the neighborhood Walmart on Pass Road in Biloxi and they reported the same thing, finding razors shoved into loaves of bread

2:34:54 Well, this morning investigators are combing through surveillance video trying to find the person responsible for shoving these razor blades and we're also learning that this has been going on for at least more than a week now. Can you still buy razor blades? For your shick? Remember yeah, you had that thing where you twist the handle and then it-the claw opens up and then you put the razor blade in do they still... Yeah I think you can. Hmm And they're used for scraping. I mean, there's razor blades in the old days of handcrafts? Yeah...I'm thinking it was probably some other kind of razor blade not a safety razors as they used to know them Anyway! There you go bonus clip in the donation segment Well, I think you cut open a loaf of bread and find an electric razor in there Okay It'd be kinda cool Alright Marty

2:35:47 The holiday season, Christmas came early. Code Bongino by the way did you hear about what's happening? Yeah he is back! Code Bongino is coming back No Bongino is quitting yeah and that means code Bongino is coming back oh yes code Bongino will be back so the guy in less than a year yeah he's less than a year and he quits the job He couldn't handle it No, because it's actual work. It's office work as opposed to podcasting. He thought he was going to be cool and be a deputy director of the FBI... What?

2:36:27 What? This is a desk. Where's the mic what? What are these files I'm supposed to do with all these piles of files? These TPS reports, oh no! TPS report exactly. Well I appreciate him for serving...I'm sure it was a rough time Oh, had to be miserable. Yeah of course it was miserable Once again proving that podcasting is the wave of the future just as deputy... Just ask Deputy Director Dan Okay so reference to Bongino Still no agenda's the best podcast in universe No matter what Bongino says The best host and the best discount codes in the game So with Gigawatt visit gigawatthecoffeeroasters.com And use code ITM20 for 20% off your order

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Ilhan Omar, Marriage Fraud Allegations and TPS Status

The hosts discuss allegations of marriage fraud involving Ilhan Omar and her brother, suggesting she may face deportation under the new administration. The conversation also covers the expiration of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for various migrant groups and the potential for these workers to be replaced by American citizens in union factory jobs.

ilhan omar· somalia· marriage fraud· tps· deportation· union jobs

2:37:12 Merry Christmas! Stay caffeinated. Eli the Coffee Guy jingles ISIS in America and go podcasting! I'm gonna get the next one so you can see if you can fix your problem from your last Linda Lou Patton read. Can i just mention something? We do have new Sharptons for people who, I have a new Sharpton for people who want to request Sharpton and was like I want to hear sharp and I have a new sharp in that I'd like to share here we go

2:37:57 Oops, not that one. Give the world a gay Santa Claus God Almighty! God Almighty! God Almighty! Leave out the cookies and the milk this Christmas Eve for a holly jolly homosexual god almighty Here you go That's AI No it's actually from a movie It is? And it's him Yeah So thats from a script I didn't know if its the same Feels good Well, Michael Benevente in Yonkers. New York came up with... Yonkers? Yeah, Yonkers! I've been to Yonkers. We don't have too many people from Yonkers When you're an arm monk you go to Yonkers man You got a Yonkers shop that's what you do you go to Yonkers And then you go Yonkers Yes 200 bucks he has no note that we can find and so it gets the double-up karma He sure does You've Got

2:38:57 And then winding it up for our executive and associate executive producers, there she is Linda Lou Patkin from Castle Rock Colorado $200. She's here every single show we love you Linda Lou Patkin and she wants jobs karma and has a good idea! She says why don't you give the gift of a resume that gets results this Christmas season? Go to Go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs, that's Image Makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Liu Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes And she winds it up by saying thank you for your courage Linda jobs jobs jobs and jobs

2:39:41 Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate you very, very much! You keep the show rolling as do all of our treasure supporters Time Talent Treasure but even the time in talent it's all appreciated that's why we are the best podcasting universe we had the best producer in the universe and these were the executives and associate executive producers you can join them and become a producer go to noagendadonations.com congratulations with these Hollywood accepted credits Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I have one short little screwball clip that i thought was funny... I don't know if you heard this about Finland? All I know about Finland is they just bought a whole bunch of F-35s from us

2:40:40 No, they had to apologize to all the Asian countries. Listen to this Oh Brother clip. Oh my second oh brother... The Finnish Prime Minister has apologized to citizens of Japan China and South Korea for offensive squinting gestures made by three politicians from his governing coalition What were they doing? They were squinting and doing a Chinese accent. No, no! Yeah so he had to apologize for the country. This must be stupid. I've got it...I gotta figure this one out hey by the way Gen Zeds you're looking for a job you're looking to get paid good money want

2:41:23 Want to live in a nice community where they're eating the dogs no more? there in that community from legal to illegal. That's about 10,000 workers gone I asked if the governor has appealed to the White House he tells me he talked to everyone who will listen these people who are currently legal who came here legally they will be, their status will change and they'll no longer be legal. When that happens all those employers will no longer be able to employ them and so that one day all of them are going to be unemployed and these companies are gonna have start scrambling trying to figure out how we're going to make our production. They're eating the dog! This issue you recall was a big one during the presidential election. I had more on it from the governor on things... Yeah

2:42:26 Before everyone starts crying, TPS temporary protective status. That's right it's time to go home now you've been protected you go home we have lots of people who want jobs I presume or are we all now too arrogant? We don't want to work in a factory because that's what we're gonna get that's what its going to be and they'll be good paying union jobs yeah I know I don't know what they're gonna do. They got this, now they have the Somalians are going to have to do something about them there's a lot of them that are in the same circumstance yeah and now they're starting to make a real fuss about it Ilan Omar actually probably being illegally entered under or became a she married her brother she married her brother and if the story is actually sillier than that she they had to get her brother out there her brothers gay

2:43:23 Oh? Have you heard the whole story about this? Uh, no I... gee my eyes must have glazed over. Her brother's gay and Somalia was having an anti-gay crusade, and they had to get him out of the country. So what they found a guy with this... They found a guy with a name in England that she ended up marrying technically, and then changed her brother's name to that guys' name brought him over as though they were married, and never divorced their first husband. The whole thing is such a disaster. It's complete fraud and she should be deported. She should, I'm telling you this is gonna begin. Tar and feather run her out on a railroad tie! You watch this it's going to be a big deal because Trump already hinted at it. And retribution... He wouldn't have said that if he didn't know something That's kind of like the Reiner thing

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Rob Reiner Death, Donald Trump Reaction Controversy

Donald Trump faced criticism for his "nonplussed" reaction to the deaths of Rob and Michelle Reiner, who were vocal critics of the President. The hosts argue that Trump's response was honest given the years of "Hitler" comparisons directed at him by the Reiners. They contrast this with the media's reaction to the death of conservative figure Charlie Kirk.

rob reiner· michelle reiner· donald trump· charlie kirk· hitler· hollywood

2:44:24 I'm kind of trying to place this because what he posted about the murder of Rob and Reiner and his wife, you know in fact i have a clip here hold on a second. Here it is...Reiner...this a And I had to really think about this because

2:45:26 He posted kind of like, he was deranged made people crazy and rest in peace at the end or something like that. And everyone's like oh, you can't do this! I can't ask you because Trump is 80 but i can see where when you're 80 You have a different view of death. Like okay he's dead... Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with death And Trump is somewhat sympathetic, but he didn't virtue signal. I kind of have respect for that. No he doesn't do that. He doesn't do that and if...I wrote an essay on this in the last newsletter. I'm just thinking about blowing it out as a sub stack thing because i have so many Rob Reiner

2:46:13 screen you should do a little thread emoji on X and post it in 1500 posts yeah I'm not gonna do that one although you're although that slash 20 although now that you mention it's a funny idea but Rob Reiner had nothing but hateful, daily hateful posts about Trump and I have one of them exemplified on the newsletter which was an example of about six days in a row where he's just bitching and moaning. And it was relentless for

2:46:51 the entire time Trump was stepped down the escalator or came down the escalator and it never ended. And it was just, it was unconscionable and I don't see why Trump should... It was both of them! It was Michelle as well that she kept calling him... They were calling him Hitler and fascist and Hitler a lot of Hitler from her. A lot of Hitler. Yeah That still doesn't mean that I like them being killed but I... So they shouldn't have been killed? To me it was like okay so it was honest I'll give him that, but didn't feel good about it. How did you feel? It didn't bother me one way or the other. It was very Trumpian... Was it a shock?

2:47:36 to anybody that Trump was like nonplussed about the whole thing and would say something like this? Well, I think people were like... He could have gone off the deep end and said there are a bunch of couple of assholes. I'm glad they're dead! That's what i think he wanted to say. I think that's what he said. That's how I read it. But he didn't say it directly Yeah but yeah yeah yeah but everyone's you know now all said whoa uh is not right we can't trade us Well, the thing that bothers me is they tried to pull this off. I don't think they accomplished much but they try to say well you Republicans are hypocrites if they let Trump get away with this when they were making such a fuss about people celebrating Charlie Kirk's death which also mentioned in this column and no because Trump was directly targeted

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Joy Reid, Nicki Minaj and George Santos

MSNBC's Joy Reid criticized Trump's cognitive health and his response to Rob Reiner's death. Meanwhile, a listener requested more positive clips of black women like Nicki Minaj, who has recently expressed support for Republican figures. George Santos appeared on Gutfeld to discuss the "Minaj Act" and confirmed that the rapper has been a Republican since the Romney era.

joy reid· nicki minaj· george santos· jesse watters· magab· republican

2:48:26 The people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, never even watched? Charlie Kirk wasn't directing nasty tweets at them for years on end. No no So there is a false equivalency which they love to pull out of the hat every chance they get Hold on I have Joy Read The Joy Read Show Is this an old clip let me see Trumps response was to crap all over Rob Reiner. Oh, she has a podcast now. She has a pod... oh you don't know that? Yeah here it is. And so he was a terrible thing, terrible for America and the rest of Russia to sell his dumb Trump bullshit! So this has caused even

2:49:05 Republicans to say, whoa. That's too much you can call a reporter piggy we're down with it you could say you grab a woman by the P word were cool with it. You could even like actually grab EG and Carol by the p word and get adjudicated as sexual assault or abuse if we're good with that. We're going to commit 37 felony counts. You can rob New York. You can take classified documents home put them in your shower, tacky shower. You can do all of those things we don't care what you do. You could do anything you want when your star let's you to it. Your Donald Trump, your star was you can do anything. You call women fat ugly, anything you want. You can call all Somalis garbage, anything you want go after anybody you want but not our Hollywood Star we actually like not this the people inside MAGA who are closest to the MAGA base

2:49:55 They see Trump up close. They know that he is faltering cognitively, they see his cankles swelling up to the size of an elephant's feet except that he is not as delightful as an elephant, he's the opposite. They can smell his diaper full on many occasions and have him change multiple times a day. They see him wandering around seemingly unaware of where he is at times, not knowing what city he's in sometimes. Rambling answering questions with complete non sequiturs that we've heard on this program with medical experts saying that he's definitely in cognitive decline maybe dementia. They said that. Really? Experts! I haven't seen the experts

2:50:35 She's terrible. And she is definitely part of the problem complex. By the way, I just have to say because we have a listener black female listener and she sent me a note like a week ago says are you gonna play any clips from Nicki Minaj talking good about Trump or do you only play black women who are insane and mad? And as I'm playing them like yeah, it's pretty much true. But I'd asked I said It's funnier. I said can you please send me a link? She says it's all over X Well, like if you're not even gonna send me a link to your favorite Nicki Minaj clip then you know do better and Yeah, and she also Minaj has

2:51:18 They're now claiming she has a crush on Jesse Watters. Which is part of it. Oh, that's good! I like that. So Gutfeld likes to bring on George Santos the phony congressman who got kicked out of Congress and then spent a couple days in jail afterwards that Trump commuted his sentence. Yeah, and he brings Santos on. Santos had an interesting thing to say about it because he was part of a program...of a bill. He put a bill together which most like Crockett never done this called the Minaj Act and it had to do with yes but he says I don't know what the fuss is about

2:51:56 about Minaj being a MAGA because she voted for it. It was well known to everybody that was involved with her or knew her, she voted for Romney! She's been a Republican for awhile so what? Yeah right yeah no I think she just says you're only playing clips of black women who are mad. Well of course but there is nothing entertaining about this Nikki...Mirage Nicki Miraj saying anything is cognizant, who cares? There you go and there it is. All right what do we have anything else we need to talk about here? Let's get these two grinder clips out of the way these are backgrounders from the BBC and I thought they'd be more objective than American Reports Okay I see Rundown BBC and Rundown 3 BBC but no Rundown 2 unless... Yes there is no 2

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Nick Reiner Court Appearance, Alan Jackson Defense

Nick Reiner appeared in a Los Angeles courtroom represented by high-profile defense attorney Alan Jackson, who has previously worked for Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. The hearing was adjourned until January 7th to allow for more preparation. Prosecutors are considering the death penalty, though California currently has a moratorium on executions.

nick reiner· alan jackson· death penalty· harvey weinstein· california· court

2:52:53 A number of Republicans have denounced your statement on True Social. Denounce? This is the same clip I had! Yeah, it was part of their report. Well we... After the murder of Robert Mayer. It's only a little bitty part of it but we do this all the time. Okay, I got it. Well I wasn't a fan of his at all he was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned and said that like they knew it was false in fact its exact opposite that a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know it was the Russia hoax he was one of the people behind it I think you heard himself in career wise so became like a deranged person Trump Derangement Syndrome So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all Alright there was nothing different than that my clip from that clip Well that sucks Yeah Okay well let's play three then

2:53:41 Our North America correspondent Peter Bowes was there. Another Brit! There was a very brief appearance by Nick Reiner, he sat at the front of what is a very large courtroom in this downtown LA courthouse He was mostly expressionless, he had a blank look on his face... ...he listened to his lawyer Alan Jackson who we've just heard from asking the judge to adjourn the hearing until January 7th to allow more time prepare the case. Mr Jackson later said that there were complex and serious issues that needed to be carefully examined normally at a first appearance, the defendant will get the opportunity to enter a plea guilty or not guilty but did not happen he was asked by the judge whether he understood that the hearing was being adjourned and he replied yes your honor before soon being taken away back to jail to await the next hearing

2:54:32 And prosecutors in this case have raised the possibility of the death sentence, haven't they? They have. If he is eventually found guilty at a jury trial he could face either life without the possibility of parole or indeed the death sentence although the prosecution has said that they have not yet decided whether they would pursue that option it's interesting that California hasn't executed anyone for almost 20 years capital punishment remains legal here but the current governor Gavin Newsom has issued a moratorium on the death penalty which halted all executions from 2019. And we heard from his lawyer Alan Jackson just then and this is a man who is very used to these high profile cases

2:55:18 Oh yeah, he is a veteran Los Angeles criminal defense lawyer. A defense lawyer now widely known for handling these high-profile complex cases like this one in the past. He's represented celebrities Harvey Weinstein Kevin Spacey to name two You know, when I first read the president's response. I thought man he must know something Maybe he already knows that that the kids like you guys are so horrible i'm gonna kill ya

2:56:04 But then I thought, maybe not. What do you mean? It's a complicated case. Is this not... This is all stuff. This is all propaganda because this Jackson guy is one of those. Somebody pointed out he says the best friend of a defense attorney is continuance and he's already got a couple stalling tactics in there it's going to take forever to get this thing underway. He wants to be on TV He wants to be on TV, he's going to be on TV a lot. How did he even get hired? Nobody knows that they don't know who is paying him. This question has come up you know this guy is the hottest attorney the hottest defense attorney in LA and somehow right away he's the guy without any moment of hesitation he shows up immediately how does that work well maybe the kid didn't do it

2:56:55 Maybe the kid didn't do it. So we have to ignore the bloody room at the motel and... Well, he might have been there but maybe he didn't do it? Maybe he didn't do it! But if he gets convicted here's the prop bed of the century Death penalty or no death penalty I don't think that's a good prop bet. It will be, but everyone will say no. Prop bets you want them to be lopsided. Exactly! But there'll be...I will get a memo from BetAge...what is it called?

2:57:33 Online bet AG I think yeah, he's website. Yeah, he sends a will send me a note I'm on the mailing list for you put it on that's me too And so I'll get that we'll read them when they come out People who can put their money down waste our money So you agree with me that it's a great prop bet because it'll be lopsided. So there's an agreement well, I'm not gonna I mean, I'm not a big fan of the whole prop bet phenomenon. Really? Everyone seems to be a trillion dollar marketplace now. It is huge because it's compelling. Can't we do our own prop bets? Well, I think...I don't see why not. We'd be pretty good at it. First of all how do you make money as a prop bet company

CHAPTER 33 / 34 Discussion

Final Donor Credits, Knighting Ceremony and Signet Rings

The show concludes with a final round of donor thank-yous, including a message from a listener in Northern Greece about traditional grape harvesting. Dylan Lang is officially knighted as "Sir Dil Pickle" for his $1,000 contribution. Information is provided on how to obtain official No Agenda signet rings and wax seals.

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2:58:20 I'm thinking exit strategy. You work on the middle so there's some sort of crossover, it's an arbitrage game. Never mind forget it is too much work of our hour here It is too much work you have to know what your doing and be a statistician We can't even get the podcast awards together so there isn't going to be any exit strategy That's coming! Geez we expect things to happen overnight that's your problem. Well, that leads us to the last of our donation segment. The second donations segment where we talk about or we mention the people and thank the people who donated $50 dollars or more and Adam's gonna start at the top with our best friend from Nevada Yes! And uh... We love all of the people who support us financially it is the only way to do a podcast that is not

2:59:17 Capturable by the audience Dame Rita is who you're referring to she's in Sparks, Nevada 133 dot 33 and she says may your Christmas be filled with your favorite food Food wine and good company that we hope so well my daughter should be landing in about two minutes Kristen Hanlon minutes two minutes Kristen Handlin 126.66 he says she'd been listening via Apple podcast for six months or so Your breakdown of the chaos, this must be new. The chaos that is 2025 suits my mood most days whatever this small donation may entitle me gratefully accepted." Thank you Chris I'm gonna dedouche her she sounds like... You've been de-douched! Thank you very much Welcome to Gitmo Nation Jakub Pelak is an Aiba... What is SK?

3:00:12 Poland. I should know. Well, he says... No SK is not Poland, PL is Poland! No, he says he's owner Slovakia. I'm sorry heard from a fellow producer from Poland donating his show 1825 so I had to top him not my first donation never deduced Jakub Palak Slovakia You've been D- There's our buddy Eric Hochul from Millrose, Deutschland 104. Jennifer Williams in Kennard Texas 100. Barry Bonavace in Elkton Florida 100 sir Johnny Bananas Fowler Indiana 100 Kevin McLaughlin Concord North Carolina he always comes in with the 8008 donation he says I love boobs and the US Constitution

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3:01:53 You know, Ricky Thomas. Ricky Thomas! She's a producer and it was different kinds of coffee and included in it gigawatt coffee. Wow, she got taste Yeah well that means they sent out Christmas packages to all their business relations with gigawatt coffee in there so I love hearing that. I love when people succeed yeah you like when you get more free coffee I don't do for the free coffee I don't mind it. It's good coffee Donna Crawford switcheroo for her smoking hot husband Commodore Kirk Crawford of the South Bay He turned 61 so she sent in $61,19 plus fees that's December 19th Thank you very much

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3:03:25 Las Vegas, Chris Cowan, Nauston Texas Scott Lavender Montgomery Texas Michael Sikora in Lake Elmo Minnesota and Janet Kostrevski from Greece I guess. She sent $50 what does she say here? Northern Greece Oh this is a it is show content! I was driving through the mountains of northern Greece listening to Show 1825 when John started talking about grappa I had to smile because right at that moment the air was filled with the unmistakable smell of grape must from the nearby distilleries. My husband George and i would love to invite the NOAA gender community Adam John, executive producer Dana Burnetti to join us at uh... the magical two-month window of the grape harvest in Mount Pico

3:04:16 And we will learn from the locals how to make tsipouro, discover nigoska a grape you won't find anywhere else. And she suggests maybe Dana could help us make a film about our charming Greek village. Gomenissaproject.com, g-o-m-e-n-i-s-s-a that's the town, Humanissa, Humanissa is how you pronounce it Great idea! I'll have Brunetti fuel up the jet We'll be there soon Don't count on a movie

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CHAPTER 34 / 34 Discussion

Global Meetups, Eggnog Recipe and Project Kringlebot

The hosts promote upcoming global meetups in Charlotte, Anaheim, and Coeur d'Alene. John C. Dvorak shares a classic warm eggnog recipe from toomanyeggs.com. The episode ends with a series of AI-generated music tracks, including "Project Kringlebot" and a song mocking the AI's inability to pronounce "Dvorak" correctly.

meetups· eggnog· alton brown· suno· ai music· kringlebot

3:08:21 I can't remember. Was it, is that the one we did in Austin? The big one or were they going on... No no so i think the meetups began with the Hot Pockets tour Ah yes okay! So that was a long time ago Yeah yeah So maybe the first one was at our dame there in Virginia I'm thinking Wherever the Hot Pockets Tour started is where it's started. Well, there's one taking place today and they are all over the world It's a global phenomenon Noah Jenner producers get together chat hang out learn about each other's skills Some date does all kinds of good stuff happens in these it really gives you connection And with that connection automatically built-in its protection these people will be your first responders an emergency I guarantee at their Charlotte's Thursday third Thursday monthly

3:09:08 starts at 7 o'clock tonight, Edge Tavern Charlotte North Carolina on Saturday. There he is Leo Bravo is back with Flight of the NOAA Agenda number 73 33 p.m pacific it's amazing he does in California Anaheim California Brewery X The rest of this month on the 23rd, Coeur d'Alene Idaho. The 26th Clovis California Fort Wayne Indiana on the 27th and Evansville Indiana on the 30th they go all the way into next year Go to knowagentandmeetups.com To get the full lowdown if you can't find one near you start one yourself easy and always a party Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

3:09:48 You wanna be where everybody's It's like a bomb All right, so now we are at the end of show ISOs which we always like to compete to see what little bit we should end the show with. Which is always kind of fun. I don't know do people... Oh there's no competition! Let's just hold hands and tell a secret Since i have four and i'm gonna win i'm going to play my four first here we go It was really great and uh the performances were fantastic

3:10:30 Hmm? Okay, I'll try my next one. This is uh... this is bonkers! I don't like that one How about this one And it takes balls the weight and heft of anvils to pursue this And I think this is a good clip, but it's too long. It's too long. This one I think is AI Wow Adam and John hit it out of the park again compete with that Dvorak Well, I actually have the same clip damn near this is ISO home run really how was that? That show was a homerun Wow Adam and John hit it out of the park again nothing money is I so you're now moving into my territory your poaching as usual

3:11:13 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, tick tock clips are next you already started those okay? Let's start with let's go up How about bonus bonus? Bonus Wow give these two guys I liked. I'm already removing mine. I like that one a lot Okay, then we go to the two I have two variations on the exact same clip okay here comes with different intimate wait Let's do number 2 first what a great show where is our Peabody Award? Yeah, okay try 1 what a great show Where is our Peabody Award nothing beats Wow give these two guys

3:11:52 That's the winner! Hey everybody, it is time for John's coveted tip of the day. Okay first I have a mere couple to correct the record on the Shun-Yen knife that whatever that knife was that we had tip is Chinese? Oh no Which is okay, because it's still a folded knife. The Chinese have taken the Japanese... That's why it's cheap? Best price! Although I saw the price went up to $75 on Amazon suddenly It's normally 75. I think we sold out of the sale-price ones. I was lucky. Yeah you had to get them right away. So yeah, I did. 75 is still cheap because that's a 250 plus knife if it was Japanese

3:12:47 But it is, and I should have, probably knew this but the pattern, the classic pattern that you get on the knife from dipping in water and folding the blade so much that's on there. It's like they've toned it down. They some, I think the Japanese emphasize it so they put dye or something to make it look really stands out But it's still a killer knife. I got a number of notes from people telling me to make sure I correct the record on the origin of this knife. Alright, so this is an eggnog recipe this time. Don't tell me that this is Ben and Jerry's get drunk eggnog? No no no... This is a real eggnog recipe!

3:13:32 And I'm gonna read right from it and this comes from, this is one of the 20 eggnog recipes or 10 to, I don't know how many there are in the toomanyeggs.com go to toomanyeggs.com and download the PDF. Oh you got it, you got in trouble? Well how did he get in trouble? Mimi's like, You're talking about eggnog? He didn't promote my book! Well, no she never said that. I'm just promoting the book but there's plenty of eggnog recipes including one somebody sent me from Alton Brown who can't cook by the way for the aged eggnog which is also in the cookbook but this is not the aged this is the regular make an eggnog the hard way. I'm gonna just read it you can tape this or you could download... Have you tried this recipe? You've just thrown a recipe?

3:14:21 Mimi has. Okay, and she's tried to done all these egg recipes but the recipe is in the show notes I'm gonna read it and i'm going to read her writing she wrote it says many people don't like raw egg eggnog that's what I wouldn't have It's too late for an aged eggnut I give you the cooked eggnog an extravagant drink for the upper class winter eggs are were an expensive luxury typically the eggnog toast was on as he goes on Here's the classic basic warm eggnog recipe. Six eggs beaten, one quarter cup sugar, one quarter teaspoon of salt, one cinnamon stick, four cups of milk

3:15:03 Or milk and cream. One teaspoon of vanilla extract, a quarter teaspoon of nutmeg, a quarter teaspoon of allspice, massive addition to some alcohol before serving. Stir nutmeg in as garnish. Here we go! In the saucepan mix the beaten egg salt cinnamon stick and two cups of milk heat over low heat ideally in a double boiler Put on the stove directly if you are careful. Stir constantly until the mixture gets to 160. Do not allow the milk to boil! Mixture will thicken slightly, remove from heat stir in remaining milk and vanilla extracts. Stir in ground nutmeg and allspice pour into a container and refrigerate overnight

3:15:47 then you can add your booze. There's your recipe, I don't know if it's the tip of the day but that's what everyone wanted mainly you. I didn't need to hear you tell me how to make it! I've got the word doc right here in the show notes. Eggnog is good maybe he told me to do it she's got a knife to my throat people... Go make this eggnog because that's what happened we know what happened there it is find it at noagendafund.com Created fast for you and me. Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti That is too many eggs dot com everybody because I don't want to get in trouble You know the women of the no agenda show there they don't mess around They want you to promote their stuff We're doing it alright everybody that is it Excuse me hairball

3:16:47 Let me see. Coming up next on your No Agenda stream, we have— Oh! There it is. You don't want to tune out. Grimerica episode number 740 with your co-host John C. Dvorak of the No Agenda Show It'll be rolling out right after this Well worth hanging around End Of Show Mixes from MVP and We've Got a Spam Call Because Everything Sucks On The Internet you'll like that one alot And I'm getting ready for the kids to arrive. It should be fun Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country where the lights are all Christmassy and cute In the morning everybody, I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I am John C. Dvorak Please join us for Sunday's show Where we deconstruct another 3 plus hours Of The Insanity That Is Your Media M'kay? We got receipts

3:17:38 Remember us at NoahJenThatDonations.com Until then, adios mofos! Hooey hooey! And such! Testing... testing... Oh? Hello world? Attention all elves Please put down your quills We are pivot tabling to a new paradigm Welcome to Project Kringlebot 2585! Sancho walked in with a headset on his ear Said I've checked the metrics for the fiscal year This handwriting business is slowing us down We need data points on every kid in town. I bought a fancy server, put it on the sled It's got a billion terabytes inside its metal head

3:18:34 So toss away the parchment, throw away the ink I've got an algorithm that can tell me what to think He tapped upon a tablet with a gleam inside his eye Why check the list twice when the cloud can classify? But The L's are on the table plugging the cords They're blocking all of the inputs with their tiny wooden swords Singing you can't automate the magic Nick You can't compute the joy An AI doesn't know the love it's for The naughty listening's nuanced The nice listening We're launching a rebellion at the frozen North Pole No neural networks, no machine learning lies We want paper we want ink. We want to unionize The International Brotherhood of Team Slayers! The International Brotherhood of Team Slayers! And John C. Dvorak creates Havoc for Suno.com and he loves it Is it Dvorak? Dvorak? DaVORAK?!

3:19:32 Can you even say it, Sunoh? It's DaVorak Dvorak He's Dvorak.org The legend we seek But when the AI sings The name sounds so weak It's Dorak Dvorak Not Duvarak Please this Dvorak problem is bringing me to my knees Oh the algorithm fails The voice trips and it stalls Trying to pronounce Is it Dvorak? Is it Duvorak? It's just not right, the legacy of Dvorak lost in a digital night. Say it! Dvorak, Dvorak, Dvorak, Dvorak, Dvorabok, Dvorak, Dvorak!

3:20:38 Dvorak, Dvorak, Dvorak, uh. Dvorak the buzzkill first duke but the sound alike, Dvorak is making me puke! Dvorak However if none of these work it's JCD with a smirk YouTube is full of ads Spotify is full of ads Tumblr is full of ads I

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