Needle Drop

00:00 Are you in a bad stock? Slop and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we notice it, blue states, the Democrats win. I'm John C. Dvorak. In blue states, the Democrats win. No, I guess you didn't notice it. But I noticed. That entire opening was AI. Oh, it sounded... I was going to ask if you'd pre-recorded it. It sounded pre-recorded, it didn't sound like AI. Yeah, no, I know. I know. It's... I sampled my voice. It's a little flat, a little flat. Yeah, it's a little flat. And I tried for hours, like, regenerate, regenerate.

01:09 And you get like little bits like, oh, that sounds like me. And then, you know, because I train. It sounds like you. Except it sounds like you if you were a robot. A robot. Yeah. I was like, you know, the troll room got it right away. That was interesting. Yeah. And you and you thought I was pre-recorded. OK. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense. So our jobs are still safe then, I think. Well, you know, the opening of something and it's just the repartee can never exist with AI. That's the problem, except with the, well, let's take a deep dive. Okay. All right, here we go. Yeah. With the mumbling in the background. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. I'm very happy. That means we will remain employed for at least another six months.

02:07 I'd mention it to you, but we're not really employed. That's true. By the way, just as an aside, you know, we now have, for the first time, we have an AI song on the charts. Did you know that? No, I don't know this. Well if you didn't know this is Zaniyah Monet. Hi you guys. It's AI generated, has a record deal reportedly worth up to three million dollars and has made headlines for popping up on social media, streaming services and music charts. Now Monet is the first of its kind to land on a Billboard radio chart for this song How Was I Supposed to Know.

02:49 Monet has real musicians fired up too. Joey Leneve de Francesco is with United Musicians and Allied Workers, an advocacy group in the US. Artists were already so mad that they're already seeing next to nothing from their work online and their work in digital music spaces. They're seeing this as another slap in the face. He says currently there's hardly anything when it comes to AI protections for musicians. He could just as easily be complaining about being misgendered. Oh, totally. With his voice he is. He's not a great spokesperson for the performing musicians, but let's complete this report. Comes to AI protections for musicians. My organization is in fact pushing a piece of legislation in the US called the Living Wage for Musicians Act that would create a new type of

03:47 streaming royalty payments and it would specifically only go to human creators. But reportedly there's a human behind Monet. According to Billboard, a poet named Talisha Nikki Jones created the AI using software and her own lyrics. But it's clear not everyone is willing to tune in to what this AI is putting out. So this is clearly, I'm sorry for our humming representative there, this is clearly a trial balloon from the publishing, the music publishing industry. Otherwise this would not happen. You know, they've already told Spotify get it all off except for this one apparently. This is, this is, this is your future. We are so, getmojams.com is alive everybody.

04:37 Three times now you get some AI slop from us. We will be breaking artists in quotes on this. So there's a, we have to consider something, which is that with ASCAP and with the royalty payments, it goes to the writers. Yeah. The writers and composers, but there's a separate sound exchange. There's separate, um, streaming royalties that go to performers. That's that's for streaming. Yeah. But in so far as the... Well, what else is there? I mean, there's not people are really buying. The point is that this woman that does this character is the writer. She writes the lyrics. But there's also ASCAP BMI for streaming. It's all in one. There's a lot of royalties that gets split up for streaming. It just seems to me that I don't think they should make such a fuss. She's writing the songs. This is not all AI.

05:36 It's just the stuff behind it, which is also programming using AI. Oh, she's programming now, is she? Well, that's what I would call it. What would you call it? Prompting. Okay, well, prompting is programming. How's that different? Wow. Yeah, okay. You just broke the heart of a whole bunch of dudes named Ben, but yeah. Well, they agree. These dudes named Ben know that what they're doing largely, especially with the more advanced language models, is prompting the machine to do certain things. That's called vibe coding. Go to, you know. Go to, no. It's prompting. It's nothing more.

06:18 Oh man. Yeah. No, I mean, it was inevitable. I can't push back on this. No, but I'm just saying that this is where the industry is going. We're going to see a whole new level of hits prompted and written. I mean, our end of show mixes. Let's hope that the quality is better than that. Okay, if you want to be critical, I can be critical of the song. I don't think the song's any good. I don't like that song. I know. It's not a toe-tapper. It's kind of... it's mournful. Wait, wait, wait. I'm feeling a new chart. John C. Dvorak's toe-tapping top 100. I'm feeling a chart. I'm feeling a chart coming here. It doesn't sound... it's nothing you can hum. I mean, there's a million things wrong with it. Yeah, I'm with you.

07:06 You know, Taylor Swift stuff's no better, but it's beside the point. Exactly. I'm just identifying what's happening. No, you know, for two boomers, I know how much you hate that, we're on top of this. Hello, people. We're not like two slouches. Okay, we'll come back to AI. How do you use a barcode? Barcode. We'll come back to AI later because you bring it up. There's something that we weren't really aware of and we received several emails about this and I want to read one of them because it's the shortest.

07:45 People you can make your point in a shorter note and this is regarding the juice isn't worth the squeeze from the Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes interview which I think we both interpreted somewhat incorrectly although I don't need people to say I'm so disappointed You don't donate either those people. It's like, okay, you just get to the point. We don't know everything obviously. So here's one that I thought was reasonable. I was listening to the Sunday show and just wanted to clarify something you and John were talking about when it comes to Nick Fuentes. The juice not being worth the squeeze is a red pill concept, not an incel concept. I don't think we,

08:32 Tied it that way? But that doesn't matter. No, we didn't. I forgot what I said, but it wasn't about incels. It doesn't matter. Incel has fallen out of favor, but the issue that most older men have is they haven't been in the current dating market, so they think things are the way they have always been. I don't, that's not true. I don't think that's true either. No, I have absolutely, I'm absolutely convinced things are nothing like they were. You used to meet women in the museum. Those days are over. Woohoo! Bring that back. Hey baby, what do you think of that painting? Nice, nice piece. It's intriguing. What is some of the, hold stop. What would some, what are some, because it could come back. It could have resurgence. Give us a couple of pick up lines for in the museum.

09:20 Oh, pick up lines in the museum. But the thing is you have to pick up lines. I've never been good at them because it's just like I always thought it was just casual conversation that either triggered something or it didn't. And so you'd say something, what do you think of this piece? Well, how did you meet Mimi? What was the first interaction? It was at a party. Yeah. At a sock hop? No, it was a party, regular, like an industry party, you know, tech. Ugh, she was at a tech party? Interesting. Yeah. She used to work for a tech distributor. And you went, hey. It was something like that. Yeah, I forced myself on him actually. I can be pretty aggressive. I love it. I love it. All right, we continue. You have been married three times. John once, I believe. Incorrect, but that's up to John to explain. Twice. Yes. So between us, five marriages. Yes.

10:15 The dating market isn't anywhere close to where it was even five years ago. Women have rosters of men they date. Both men and women ghost each other at the first sign of any trouble. Yeah, that's true. I believe it. The juice not being worth the squeeze is the simple fact that the vast majority of men are treated like wallets and the upside to dating is so small that most men who don't make a healthy salary, are tall, extremely attractive, and in peak physical shape, don't have a chance for even an average woman. That's a five. I'm a Gen Xer that's been single for the past five years. I date extensively but fall victim to the same challenges the Gen Z and Millennials face. A date is a job interview for a man. What do you do? How long have you been there? What degrees do you have? All in the hopes of sussing out how much money I make and the chance of anything lasting longer than a few weeks is not in the cards. You and John were lucky with your mate choices. Well, not all of them.

11:17 But for the rest of the men out there, it's not as easy as it used to be. And you know what? Thank you. And I appreciate that. And of course, we've seen TikTok videos of women talking like this and, you know, how much money does he have? 6'6", he got six figures, six feet tall, etc., etc. And I'm really sad about that. I think that's incredibly sad. Well, this brings me to the Nick Fuentes clips I have for today's show. Oh no! You went back to the well! Well, about this exact topic. Okay. Oh, well, I only picked up two. I only took two from the segment, but they talked about dating. Why, you know, Nick Fuentes has his opinions. By the way, and I will, I'm going to preface this by saying that I saw, I've never seen Nick Fuentes' podcast, okay?

12:11 And I don't hate saying okay because I was listening to Candace Owens podcast recently and that's all she says, okay? But no, you're not doing it right. You need to say, mmkay? Mmkay? She says okay. Well, I don't know it's the M so much, but she says it after every phrase, okay? Okay. Well, she says it more like, okay, like if you'd question her, the hellfire will strike you down, okay? Yeah, so I've never seen Fuentes' material. So I saw, instead of watching Fuentes, I listened to Ben Shapiro's rant. About Fuentes, with old material. About Fuentes and about Tucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. It was great. It was great. It's fantastic. Because he's taking everything he can out of context. You have no feeling for anything because it's just these blips and blips and blips. Well done. He just took both Fuentes and Carlson to the cleaners. Yeah, well, we'll come back to that.

13:04 Okay, well I hope you have something. But meanwhile my take on Fuentes is what I saw on the Tucker Carlson interview and that's it. And I think he's entertaining. He's, when you see the clips that Shapiro plays is like a maniac but it's different. So let's play these two clips. This is Fluentis on dating women and the whole problem out there. But I'm always, I think I'm just too old or something. I'm like, why is anyone married? You tell me, why isn't, weren't people married? Well, I mean, honestly, it's the women. The women are extremely liberal.

13:40 No one talks about that. Increasingly they do, especially after the last election. There's a 45 point difference between men and women. The men are extremely conservative, increasingly. The women are extremely liberal. What are they liberal on? What issues? Like what does that mean, liberal? Oh, on, on, they're very feminist. Like actually? Extremely feminist. Yeah. Do they? I think they do. Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Absolutely. Yes. I think gender roles are a construct that none of this is inborn like you'd have to be an idiot to think that they like the idea of it. They like the because of course I think all women naturally want strong men. Of course obviously they naturally want a Chad you know like a tall buff guy.

14:27 But I think they like the idea of none of them want to work either. None of them actually want to work. That's what I'm saying. Of course, that's obviously true. It's always been true. Work outside the home. They don't have enough work at home. There's a lot. Right on, Tucker. But no, I completely agree. So that's why I question their feminism in what sense. Yes. And they like these vague appeals to equality. We want a chance to work and we want respect. And ultimately, I think the whole political system is just based around women never being accountable for any of their choices. Ultimately, that seems to be what it, that's what abortion is. Yeah, of course. As 99% of abortions are elective. So they say it's an unplanned pregnancy. You had sex out of wedlock with someone you didn't intend to have kids with. So now we have to kill the kids in the womb.

15:15 Nick Fuentes. Yeah, nailing it. Nailing it. I can't say it any other way. Nailing it. Well, he's making his points. It's very generalized. It's almost stereotyped. But it's great. Of course. Of course. Anyone could have given that answer. Even boomers who don't know what the dating scene is like. It's not like, like, like, like, like, K. It's not incredibly hard to come up with that. But he said, okay, good. But it's not also, you know, the number of women that don't fall into these categories is probably pretty high. So let's, but let's listen to the better part, which is the second half. This is actually, there's more stuff that yuck, yuck, yuck back and forth. I mean, very wordy, these two guys, but let's go to the end. And, you know, these no fault divorce laws.

16:08 These women get married to guys maybe they never intend to stay with. And then when they're out, they're done. And they want child support and they want half the stuff. And I think a lot of men are looking at women and they're very liberal. They're overweight. They have a very high estimation of themselves. I think that people call it hoflation. Hoflation? Yes, their sense of their own looks and sexual value is very inflated. And so a lot of people are looking at these like frumpy, obnoxious, loud mouth, liberal women who are also very promiscuous and saying this is not actually appealing at all. And I don't want to start a family with a person like this. Yeah, it is. Okay. Okay.

16:56 So yeah, I thought that was worth listening to. Just tell me, because I have a little series on Tucker. Tell me what the Candace stuff is, because it might be appropriate. Is it about Israel? Tell me. The what which what what and you have Candace stuff Candace debate theory here. What is that? Oh, this is about Mondami Oh, no, hold on in that for a second. Yeah. No, I'm not pushing it I don't even try because you kind of let me write it. Okay. I have I can't help it I've been watching it to everybody It's habitual it's a problem. It's a real problem that you have to like got a shake it gotta shake it

17:36 So I've been kind of, obsessed is not the word, but I'm trying to figure out what is going on with all these podcasters going on each other's podcasts, talking about each other, sniffing each other's... And they're all going around and around. It's like a circle jerk. Yes, sniffing each other's farts and like, what is happening here? What is the point? And is it still all about Israel? What is happening? And earlier this week, I thought I saw a clue, and that was confirmed last night, so I spent this morning clipping some stuff. This isn't up, and I think it's pretty elaborate and sophisticated.

18:17 And a good op is. Which a good op is. And in fact, a good op should not be identifiable. We just happen to be kind of tuned into them. Well, the best op is when the person doing the op actually tells you what the op is about and you just kind of accept that as part of the op, even though you don't know it's an op. Does that make sense? Well, we'll find out by your clips. Okay. So just to set the stage for a second. No, actually, I'll go to... This is the... The first clip kind of led me into it because there's a lot of people involved in this. I don't think... I know that not everyone's in on the op. Fuentes is not in on the op. Candace is not in on the op. Glenn Greenwald might be, I don't think so. And Dave Smith is completely not in on the op. He is the willing idiot in the game.

19:09 And so Tucker goes on Dave Smith. I'm like, what is this? I saw this. What? Why is he doing this? What is the point? Yeah, that's what I thought. I didn't watch that. You probably I could only watch a few. I couldn't take it. I couldn't watch it. No, no. But I got lucky. I got lucky because I needle dropped into what I needed to hear. But the first part. So people like And Shapiro is on the other side of this, but he's completely fallen for the op. He's the biggest moron in this. Shapiro's terrible. He's completely fallen for it. By the way, just stop you for a second. One of those phrases we should put aside is needle drop.

19:49 Gen Z doesn't know what you meant. What's a needle drop? So back in the day, you'd go into a store that had these discs and these discs were black and they were made of something called vinyl. You might have pants made out of it. and they were kind of flexible, but then you would put them on a turntable, that's a rotating disc, and there would be a needle, an actual needle in an arm, that you'd put onto this vinyl disc known as a record, or a long play album, sometimes a single, a 45, and it would pick up the little grooves in this vinyl and the vibrations would be sent back through an amplification and you would hear music.

20:34 So a needle drop, it's used in different terms in broadcasting, but kind of the same in a record store. You'd sit behind a long desk. and you'd all have a pair of headphones and there would be a record player in front of you. Sometimes the store would let you use it yourself. They wouldn't always because you might scratch the record. In the olden days they did. Yes. Scratching the record later became a hip-hop art form. Vooka, vooka, vooka. Okay. But scratching meant that you ruined the grooves. So you do a needle drop just to listen to a track further on. In broadcasting, we would, you know, a record promoter comes in, hey man, I got this is a great, this is a hit, this is the next number one, it's a toe-tapper.

21:20 And so you'd listen to the intro and then you'd pick up the needle and drop it in the middle. Okay, it was like, because you had no time to listen to it all. So that's a needle drop, i.e. these days fast forwarding two minutes and checking it out and fast forwarding. I'm sorry I asked. Yeah, well, you did ask. So I needle dropped and so Dave Smith, who was, You know, he's just Mr. Libertarian, anti-war, Israel is the worst. And by the way, I'm sorry if I'm interrupting you too much. No, you're going to have to do it for an hour. But Dave Smith, I can't watch him. He is the worst example of the podcaster who can't stop talking. To get to his first question with Tucker must have been five minutes.

22:08 He just keeps going over this, and well, you know, why don't I ask you about this because it's something that I think is important. I think you might have thought it was important too, because I thought it was important, so you would probably think it was important, but I'm not sure that you thought it was important, but I want to know if you think it's important because everybody else, in fact, I talked to some guys the other day, they thought it was important. And so I want you to tell me if you think it's important. You do a very good impression of the Dave Smith. He's a comedian, by the way. I tried to look, I found one of his... sets on Netflix and I'm like, you're not that funny. You're funnier when I'm watching you stumble around like this. So Dave Smith is not in the op. Dave Smith is just delighted that he's got numbers. He's trending. Everybody is trending. It's proof that he's right. And what's his face?

23:02 Ben Shapiro, he's a loser, he's an idiot and he's yelling at us and so we're yelling back at him. But meanwhile, we're winning, we've got numbers, we're the best. But he sent me the episode of Ben Shapiro today, so I'm pretty pissed at him for that. That's not a cool thing to do to a friend. But I did watch a little bit of it and he's going, he's sitting there and he's going like, Tucker Carlson and then just completely, in a demented way representing your view. Tucker Carlson, the platforming of Holocaust deniers and this and loving Nazis, the American people hate that.

23:37 that. The American people reject that. And meanwhile, there's just this amazing feature about the new decentralized media landscape where we can all look at the numbers and we can see who's gaining in relevance and who's losing it. And the fact is that Nick Fuentes is ascendant, Candace Owens is humongous. She's been breaking records. You were the biggest show at cable news. got fired and got bigger. Again, you can just look at the numbers. They're all right there. And Ben Shapiro went from being like the king of the online conservative guys to being very much a laughingstock and falling down in all these numbers. So they can, they want to sit here and try to convince you that what you're seeing in front of you isn't really happening, but we all know that it is.

24:25 So he's so self-righteous, Mr. Tavesman. And by the way, he's got a guest in front of him. Oh yeah, no, that doesn't matter. And he's yacking away. When I, you know, it's like, I always thought interviewers should let the guest, the guest is there to tell you something. No, no. You always listen to the host. No, no, he feels that he's on the same, he's on a team. He's on the team. Tucker's on the team. We're on the team. We're on the right side of America, saving America, America first. This is all about, this is the thing, America first, baby. We don't want foreign wars. We don't want foreign intervention. We want America first. I never hear them talking about snap.

25:05 Because I learned that three weeks of SNAP benefits is equal to the annual amount we send to Israel in military aid. But okay, America first. So that's what he's about. You got that number? Yeah, oh yeah. Three weeks of SNAP is equal to... Everything we sent to Israel for a year? Yes! And then we get that money back from Israel in arms purchases. Right, okay. Yeah, we don't get that with SNAP. But we do sell food though. So we need to take that into account for a moment. Now just to reframe my thinking so people understand where I'm coming from, particularly Israel. And by the way, I think that October 7th

25:46 this very suspicious that we have, you know, this thing, you're in Tel Aviv, you're 45 minutes from where this all took place, but it took seven hours for the military to do anything. I think that this was in itself an op, not by the Americans, but by the Israelis and maybe it was a part of the whole Abraham Accord, let's settle this in the Middle East. And you know they had the... We don't know. We don't, well no we don't know but... It's just suspicious. But hold on. There was the master plan which was already started by the master plans own admission of Whitcoff and Kushner. So this was in the planning.

26:26 I don't think it went the way they actually thought it would. They thought that, you know, no, they'll kill some people, but it'll be good, and they had hostages, and it got drawn out, and the whole thing was obviously a mess. Or as Dave Smith calls it, genocide in 4K! Okay, all right, I got it. War is horrible. So this kind of reignited the why are we sending money to Israel meme. This is a very real meme, we can't fight it. The Millennials, the Gen Z, even the Gen Alphas are very suspicious of all of this. Then we got the Kirk murder, enter Candace Owens could not have been more helpful for pointing the finger at Israel. And then you have AIPAC. Oh AIPAC, AIPAC, AIPAC. Israel controls all of Congress. AIPAC, AIPAC. Now I'm just gonna reiterate our stance

27:14 that Israel does not control America. America has historically since the 70s, go back at bingit.io and look at all the Michael Hudson videos. He was there. The clips we have of Michael Hudson. How Israel is the aircraft carrier in the sand and meant to be our launching point there for all kinds of horrible things America has done mainly for resources, etc. So AIPAC is funded by the American-Israeli Education Fund, which is mainly funded by the the military industrial complex. So if you want to say AIPAC is a danger to America for control, I'm in complete agreement.

27:53 ever since Eisenhower said, and way before any of this, like 15, 18 years ago, we were talking about Eisenhower's message upon his leaving the presidency, be careful, it's the military-industrial complex. And yes, a lot of Congress is definitely controlled by AIPAC and the military-industrial complex, and they are inherently bad because they always want war. So, This op that I think I can show to you is using the Israel conviction that people think that Israel is controlling us and we need to stop that to complete a very specific goal. And I believe Tucker is completely, he may even be leading this. I think he's really good at it, if he is. And this was the clue during the Dave Smith podcast

28:50 Part of the problem, I think is the name of the podcast that made me maybe start to think about this. And then last night I was totally convinced. So listen to this. Ben is like this. Ben fears that he's going to get hurt. And it's like, I look at this and I'm like, I don't think I think Ben's fine. It's like, who's more likely to get hurt? Me or Ben? You know, it's like not even really close. But that doesn't matter. He feels that way. And a lot of these people who are throwing this Nazi stuff around, they're doing it for a reason. Of course, this is part of a strategy. We've got to clear the skeptics out of the Republican Party by the time Trump leaves or else the neocons will lose their stranglehold on the party. That is the goal. But I just want to say again, as they say these radical, really kind of crazy things, they convince themselves and they become

29:37 dangerous. You know, because it's not about me. It's about the future of the Trump movement after Trump. That's what all this is about. I just happened to be in this place. I'm not trying to shirk responsibility for anything I did at all, but it's not really about me. They're mad at me because I'm like basically, sincerely a moderate guy. So when I hear this, I'm like, huh, could it be that Tucker has the assignment, and remember Tucker was at the Republican National Committee, he was walking into UFC fights with Trump, and then this stuff starts to happen and we had one truth social post from Trump saying, Tucker's gone nuts around the same time, Elon is no good. Notice how you haven't heard anything from the president about either of those guys in a long, long time. In fact, quite the opposite.

30:32 the guy who was, who Elon wanted to be NASA administrator, suddenly is back and available and is up for nomination or approval by Senate when they come back to be the NASA administrator. So Elon very likely is playing a part of this as well. And if so, wow, long game, very, very impressed. So last night, Tucker drops another episode. He has an almost a 40-minute monologue, and these are always good. This is what he used to do on Fox News. It's written. He's just nailing it. And I need to play some of this. Most of these are pretty short, but they're all very relevant. Here's how it starts off. Good evening and welcome and happy anniversary. Tonight is the one-year anniversary of Trump's second election to the presidency. It was a year ago tonight.

31:26 that Donald Trump not only won, but won a majority of the popular vote. And not only won a majority of the popular vote, but won with a coalition that was broader than any Republican coalition probably since 1984 with the Reagan landslide. So a 40-year coalition And at the time, looking at not just how many people voted, but who voted, it seemed really obvious if you were interested in keeping the left at bay and the Republicans in power for say the next generation or two, you would copy exactly what Donald Trump did because no one else has done it in 40 years. He created this amazing, not just

32:02 Not really a landslide, but it was an amazing victory in an environment in which most people assumed you couldn't have an authoritative victory because the country is just too closely divided. So it was an amazing thing that Donald Trump did a year ago. So the election was a year ago. That means the midterm election is a year from now, and the next presidential election two years after that. So it's probably not too early to start thinking through what comes after Donald Trump. No respect to the sitting, disrespect to the sitting president, but of course there's going to be something after him because he can't run again. Okay, when I heard this I'm thinking, all right, exactly one year, this is the anniversary, we've got to get ready for the midterms, something has to happen.

32:49 And we know that, and that's the second time he's saying what happens after Trump? What happens at the midterms? What are we going to do? We have a party that is filled with good people and bad people. And they need to be rooted out. And needs to say people are thinking about that and know they're thinking about that already arguing and fighting about it. There is what Politico is calling a civil war in the Republican Party. And it's over, of course, identity, because the only wars we have in this country, the only sanctioned wars we have domestically are about identity. BLM, anti-Semitism, of course, it's not really what they're ever about. These are proxy wars. These are wars waged on behalf of people who aren't directly participating.

33:32 for reasons that are never openly stated. And this war is actually about what comes after Donald Trump. He keeps saying it. This is all about what happens after Donald Trump. Now at this point, I agree with the initial sentiment in the troll room. I'm like, wow, is Tucker going to run for president? No, no, that can't be right. No, he's going to clearly point out what this is about. Does the Republican Party, the party that now has power and a lot of money, revert to what it was before Trump or does it continue to evolve in the direction that Trump has steered it? That's the question. And on that question hangs a lot. Well, control of the most powerful country in the world. Notice what he's saying here. He's saying this is about the Republican Party. This is not about Trump.

34:21 This is not about Israel, this is about the Republican Party, which Tucker seems to care a lot about. The question, and on that question hangs a lot. Well, control of the most powerful country in the world, control of the free world such as it is, the shrinking free world, And, you know, an awful lot of jobs for people and an awful lot of military power. So there is a lot at stake in this contest. So consider the two choices here. You can go with the Republican Party as it was, which is basically neoconservative foreign policy, libertarian economic policy, the Republican Party of the think tanks in Washington of the Wall Street Journal editorial page of all the deep thinkers in the Republican Party. Deep thinkers in the Republican Party.

35:07 The ones who are always invoking the same three Reagan quotes and quoting Tocqueville incorrectly and doing their little, we're erudite impression. Or does it continue to become what it is currently becoming, which is the party of Donald Trump? Well, what is that? What is MAGA exactly? How do you make America great again? Well, Donald Trump in his sort of signature way, which is to say never quite spelling everything all the way out, is not very ideological, but instead sort of leading by implication and by action. the position of Donald Trump in the last election was America first. There it is. This is what everyone has been saying. No, we want America first. What Trump is doing is not America first. Notice that Tucker is on the president's side here. He is saying that the president wanted America first. At this point, we have no talk about AIPAC or Israel or Epstein or any of this stuff. It's all about rooting out the neocons

36:06 And I completely agree that there are a bunch of a-holes, we just lost one yesterday, and Dick Cheney who really were not good actors in the Republican Party who had a lot to do with controlling our country, specifically through the military-industrial complex. So now Tucker will say here's the other side that we have that we can look at. and that spends a lot of its time policing its own members. Now, what does it attempt to achieve by policing them? Well, it attempts to achieve silence. It wants them to shut up about what is actually happening. And what is actually happening is that on the foreign policy side, which is the side that Washington cares about because it's got the most money and the most power, you can literally kill people and there's no power greater than that. Our foreign policy is not wholly dependent on the whims of Israel. Of course, we have acting in lots of parts of the world that have nothing to do with Israel.

37:06 But it is unduly influenced by the concerns of Israel and in some cases the US government has acted and these are all well known The Iraq war for example has acted in ways that hurt the United States in order to help Israel it is put the aims of a foreign power above its own interests By the way, I disagree with him that the Iraq war was about helping Israel. That was Halliburton's war and that was a Bush family op, they were mad at Saddam Hussein, so I reject that part of it. But there you go, he's bringing it in, and now he's going to tell us that Elon is, in my storyline here, that Elon was definitely a part of this op. And that's immoral, it's illegitimate, it's extremely unpopular domestically, and it just doesn't work over time. That's not sustainable, there's no way to justify that. So rather than trying to justify it,

38:01 They scream at people and tell them to be quiet and read them out of the movement and call them names and threaten them. But ultimately, because it's not a winning message, it cannot win over time, particularly if people are allowed or somehow managed to describe it accurately. And unfortunately for the guardians of the old system, the old Republican Party, people People have been allowed to describe it accurately, mostly because Elon Musk opened up X. And when he did that, you get all kinds of filth and nonsense and lies, but you also get some truth, actually quite a bit of truth. And one of the main things that people are telling the truth about that they didn't tell the truth about before is that our foreign policy really doesn't have much to do with what's good for the United States. And once those words have been uttered, they can't be taken back and they change people's minds and the polls reflect the fact that they have. People's

38:47 views are different. If you think about the true bad actors being those associated with the military-industrial complex slash AIPAC cloaked under the guise of, hey everybody, hate Israel because they fund AIPAC and they control the Congress. If you want to get those people out, you got to go for the head of the snake. And he, Tucker, himself is doing this now. So in the face of this kind of inevitable change of heart, collective change of heart in America, where both parties are like, wait, why are we doing this? The people who are benefiting from the old arrangement, which only continued because it was maintained by threats and silence, those people are going absolutely bonkers.

39:41 And they have been a week and they're claiming it's about one thing, the Holocaust or something like that. But no, really, it's about who controls the Republican Party after Donald Trump. That's what it's really about. So ignore the moral posturing. This is a power struggle as all political parties have from time to time. And this one just happens to have a lot of emotionally unbalanced hysterical people with no limits who have who have access to social media, so they're scaring the crap out of everybody. But it's really kind of a conventional power struggle. So who are the players in this? Well, some of them are in the pundit class. The more ludicrous ones are in the pundit class, but some of them are actual sitting politicians. And if you were to choose one who symbolizes what we're actually debating and the stakes of this conversation, it would have to be Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham is a senator, a senior senator from the state of South Carolina, one of the most conservative, reliably Republican states out of 50. And he has been in Congress since 1994, so that would be 31 years. And he is running for yet another term as a US senator. He's 70 years old. He'd like to serve till he's 77.

40:43 And he has the support not simply of the White House, he has an endorsement from the president, but he has more donor support probably than anyone who's ever run in the history of the United States. I mean, Lindsey Graham has so much donor support and donors just as a numerical question probably represent a hundredth of 1% of the American population, but have a a great deal higher proportion of the money, he's the most popular candidate they've ever backed. He's like a higher IQ, less grading Nikki Haley. So Lindsey Graham is the target. Because he's the most well-funded senator, who funds Lindsey Graham? That's actually quite easy to find out if you look at OpenSecrets.org. Top four donors.

41:30 Lockheed Martin, GE Aerospace, Boeing, in fact Boeing has their wonderful plant there in South Carolina, and the Fluor Corporation. So this is a strike against the military-industrial complex that controls idiots like Lindsey Graham. Now if you want I can play the two takedown clips, it's almost like a No Agenda Greatest Hits. where Lindsey Graham is saying, yeah that's the best money ever spent, we're killing Russians. Yeah, you know, we're lowering your taxes and we're killing the right people. The guy is clearly a ghoul. Clearly. I'm reminded of Matt Gaetz when he was in Congress.

42:13 commenting once on one of the big shows, he says, well, Lindsey Graham never met a war he didn't like. We had that clip on the show. Do you want to hear Tucker's takedown of him or do you want to? Well, I just want to finish. And within one cycle, Mad Gaze was out. Oh, yeah. Oh, because it's incredibly powerful. Incredibly powerful. The military-industrial complex, AIPAC, they control a heck of a lot. And what I'm seeing here is Tucker is, he's the missile and he's working on... He's a point man. He's a point man at the behest of the president, who he's good friends with. He texts with him all the time. They didn't just fall out of love, but it's been very quiet between the two of them.

43:00 So I'll leave those, they're longish and we've heard it all, but Lindsey Graham without a doubt is a ghoul who likes killing people, he loves the military, and he cloaks it all under Israel, Israel, he always talks about Israel, Israel. It's almost like saying Kiev instead of Kiev, Israel, Israel. And again, I had not looked at the description of this podcast And I should probably the last little bit of this Lindsey take down here because he was talking about Lindsey. Well, here's the second clip. It's worth it. But if you wonder like who Lindsey Graham actually is, what his gut instincts are.

43:37 Take a look at his first reaction to the death of George Floyd. And in case you don't remember that story, it was Memorial Day 2020. This convicted armed robber, home invader, drug addict, former porn star tries to pass a counterfeit bill in a convenience store like this poor convenience store owners in Minneapolis and gets arrested for it and then promptly dies of a drug OD. That was all pretty obvious from day one actually. But that wasn't Lindsey Graham's view at all. Here's what Lindsey Graham said about George Floyd. The topic for the country is what to do after the death of Mr. Floyd and what does the death of Mr. Floyd mean? Well, it's a long overdue wake-up call to the country that there are too many of these cases where African American men die in police custody.

44:24 under fairly brutal circumstances. Mr. Floyd's case is outrageous on its face, but I think it speaks to a broader issue. I think this committee has the potential to reinforce things in society that will lead to better policing. And hopefully one day, if you're a young black man and the cops pull up behind you, you'll be wondering if you were going too fast rather than you're gonna get beat up. It is liberal white women like Lindsey Graham who are the real problem. So, okay, that's the setup. We get it. Lindsey Graham has to go. He's incredibly powerful. He has the biggest military industrialists behind him. And here's Tucker's payoff. With that in mind, Paul Danz is running against Lindsey Graham in the Republican primary, which is in June of next year.

45:20 We don't know a ton about him, we're about to find out. But that's all we need to know. This is unacceptable. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Dance. So how did you decide, let's just start at the end. How did you decide to run against Lindsey Graham? Well, I'm original MAGA. I kind of go back to even H. Ross Perot days. And we'll get in a little bit about how I- So you supported Perot? Oh, I was a Perot. Perot is my first vote for president. I came from a Kind of a traditional ethnic Catholic family working-class my parents were the first to He go to college. Yes, actually speak English My siblings were the first aid my parents spoke Spanish and French at their households But you know my why am I running ultimately against Lindsay's for God family country? I don't think we have a

46:07 a choice at this stage. This is about the future of the movement, whether MAGA, America First, lives or dies. We have to start thinking post-Trump, and this is going to be the fight for the future of this country. I was working in the trenches, if you will, for the last five Seven years really with the Trump admin. I was the architect of Project 2025. And right now, this is, I believe God has a plan for us all and this is a calling, but it's also that I have the life experience. I cannot sit back and watch somebody like Lindsey Graham represent our state. I live God, family, country. This is it. This is it. Tucker is now

46:53 kicking off the war to kick out all of the neocons and the military controlled I think not just Republicans, Democrats as well. This is about the midterms. It's completely about the midterms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, after Trump, sure. And I think President Trump doesn't give a crap. He's like, hey, I got stuff to do in the next three years. I'm probably going to choose someone to, you know, in fact, have another clip from 60 Minutes where he's talking about the incredible bench they have, which is true. J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, they've got a lot of interesting people who could totally be the next president.

47:29 Tucker is leading the charge here to get... this is your draining the swamp actually. This is what it is and it's cloaked under this clear movement of people hating Israel's so-called influence over the American government, which is really done through AIPAC. Everything is, they need to register as pharaoh, blah blah blah. Okay, fine. I think that you're going to see This is the frame I'm going to be using for the next couple of months to see what Tucker does, see how these podcast wars, so-called wars, are used to push new people, the America first people, who already work for President Trump. This guy has been in the Trump administration, he was there for almost the entire first term. Project 2025. Come on, this is exactly what Trump is doing.

48:25 Tucker is the op. Well Tucker might be the point man for the op. I've noticed that this is very similar to what Candace Owens is saying about the anti-Trumpers and MAGA joining hands and something she's not gonna do. There was some discussion about that in her last show which was a huge hit by the way. And then there was Trump himself who I've never seen a president do this in my entire life, which is Trump himself and his team celebrated the first anniversary of the election, which is a bogus thing to celebrate if ever there was. It's like, you know, oh yeah, this is the third year we've been married. Let's have a big party. So- It's our month-iversary. This is not going to make it. This is weak. Oh really? It's not going to cut it. Lindsey Graham is a pro.

49:17 He will shred these guys. This guy has... I would put money on the fact that this guy who sounds like he has the charisma of a rock will be eaten alive by Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. Well, that's very possible. But he is the chosen one now to run against Lindsey Graham. Not gonna happen. It's amazing. Lindsey Graham is, he's really, he's a puffy face dude. Like, the power that he has.

49:53 He's incredible. He's a smart guy. I mean, you know, he's a dummy in some sense, but he's also politically savvy. He has a style all his own. The people of South Carolina keep putting him in and he's got the money. He's got the combination of ingredients and he's got and he's the incumbent and he can say to the South Carolinians, look, I'm in here. I've got seniority and you, as you know, in Senate and House seniority makes a big deal because that puts me at the head of a lot of committees, and it puts me in a position where I can help the state. And this guy, this 2025 guy, he's not going to be able to do jack. He's going to take him 10 years. He had to be reelected two or three times to get as far as I am. Why would you vote for him? Yeah, well, Tucker has work, his work cut out for him, no doubt. He's got more than the work cut out for him. This is futile. Okay, well, I hope he succeeds.

50:46 I mean this show has not been a fan of Lindsey Graham, that's for sure. No, no, we have not been a fan of Lindsey Graham, but there is a moment where you have to accept the fact that Lindsey Graham is a force of nature. What could get Lindsey Graham out? Anything? Well, he lives at home with his mother supposedly. I mean, that's what I've heard. He's obviously gay, but he doesn't... he's not out of the closet. Get him on the gay card! He should come out. He could hang out with Besson's and the A-gays. I mean, he's doing it all wrong. He's doing it perfectly. And he, uh, there's, I don't know that he has anything in his closet, any skeletons in the closet. I don't think so. There's, there, he's untouchable. Well, anyway, I think that that's what this is all about. And, and the, well, there's a, that obviously something's going on and, and I think you're right. Tucker is, is always suspect. Yeah.

51:49 And Ben Shapiro on the other side for the neocons. That makes total sense. Well, you have to always remember we keep for or we don't but the public generally forgets especially the Shapiro fans and the podcast fans a podcastiverse or whatever you want to call it podverse. Podosphere. Podosphere. You have to remember that Ben Shapiro hated Trump. Oh yeah. He was an anti-Trumper from the get-go. Yep. Yep. And when he was writing for Breitbart, he's the one who set up the phony baloney scandal that made him quit in a huff over the girl who was supposedly molested by one of Trump's guys, I forgot his name. The guy's name starts with an L.

52:33 And he grabbed her to move her aside and, oh, you hurt me! And then, oh, this is terrible. What was her name? She was a journalist, wasn't she? Yeah, she was a journalist. And the two of them quit and formed the, you know, what they have now, Daily, whatever it is. The Daily Something. What was that? What was her name? And that whole thing was a scam and it was set up. And there's still, I think, even during that period, Lewinsky, not Lewinsky, that's not the name of the guy, but something like that. I think it was... No, no, Corey... Corey. Corey Lewandowski? Lewandowski, that's it, right. And so that, you know, that guy was railroaded and so... Wow, you remember that well.

53:13 Well, I didn't remember Lewandowski. I didn't remember that well. But Shapiro, that's when he made a big stink. He started his own operation, started his podcast, he got a little radio syndication for a while. That disappeared because he couldn't cut it. Gosh, I forgot all about that. So Shapiro's suspect. Hold on. Let me see if we can find it. Corey Lewandowski. No, I don't... I don't see any clips. It's Corey, C-O-R-E-Y. But who are... Yeah, they won't be named right. Michelle Fields? Yes, Michelle Fields. Maybe. Yes, Michelle Fields. She was the reporter for Breitbart. Yeah, that's who it was. Here we go. Is this... Do we have audio here?

54:03 No, that's not it. Get a report. I think this is the report. Lately, the past few weeks, past week and a half or so, there has been a lot more tension. It's from 2016. These rallies, a lot more violence. Violence. Omarosa says that it's just one protester who's done this, or Mr. Trump says that it's just one supporter who's punched a protester. I have to take issue with that because we've seen a number of occasions where protesters have been roughed up by Trump supporters. So the idea that it's just one guy acting out of bounds is just frankly not true.

54:40 And I tried to press him on his tone and his rhetoric at these rallies, and Jake Tapper did during the debate as well. We have felt at times, me and the other reporters in the room, that we are on the precipice of something potentially very bad happening. So it's not just one person. It happens very frequently, and it's happening even more so. I also asked Mr. Trump, as you saw, about this Michelle Fields incident and his campaign manager. His campaign manager has been extraordinarily antagonistic towards the press. this entire time. Clearly he did not like that line of questioning. So far there has not been video yet to prove any of her allegations. Yeah, remember she had, she was showing her bruised arm and everything? Oh man, good recall there, JCD, good recall.

55:23 Yeah, well, you know. Don't get carried away. It's just one. It's just one so far. And this goes back. And this is when Breitbart was a dominant news outlet. Yes. They ended up getting kind of shadow banned by everybody. Well, they killed him. They killed him with the red wine poison. And then Breitbart himself was killed. The whole thing is shady and this phony baloney. era early on in the Trump campaign where their violence or a beaten up protesters and what were the people protesting about the whole thing is crap and Shapiro's right in the middle of it. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So spy versus spy op versus op. You're no agenda show is on it.

56:12 And I might as well play this little bit from the... I loved watching the president in his 60 minutes overtime, which is the only 60 minutes you want to watch. You want to watch the full interview. Yeah, absolutely. It's funnier. It's much funnier. They take all the funny stuff out of the real interview. Yes, and they put in clips and stuff. Who needs that? Give me the raw stuff, like a podcast. Nora was very nice to him. And here is the... Nora, wait, hold on. Stop there for a second. So in the early 2016 era, Nora when she was on the morning show, she had CBS's, but she was the early girl. They moved her up to the news anchor later. The early girl! And she would, when Trump's name would ever come up, she would just grimace and she'd

56:58 You know, because she's pretty if she smiles and looks bright-eyed. But she has an angry look and she had it all throughout this interview. She tried as hard as she could to be nice. She did pretty good. She did okay. I don't think so. So here's Trump explaining how he will be able to run in 2028. It didn't get a lot of, not the play I expected it to get. There's been a lot of talk about 2028 and who will be at the top of the Republican ticket. Can you set the record straight you're not going to try and run for a third term? Well, I don't even think about it. I will tell you a lot of people want me to run, but the difference between us and the Democrats is we really do have a strong bench. I don't want to use names because it's, you know, inappropriate, but it's too early. People do like when you start talking about whether you like J.D. Vance or Secretary Rubio. I do like J.D. Vance. I like Marco Rubio. I like so many people. We have an unbelievable bench.

57:51 We could run two people together. We have a great bench. So I don't want to start talking about elections. It's too early. One thing I can tell you, the 2020 election was rigged. And a lot of people say when it's rigged, you're allowed to do it again. It was rigged and it's been caught and they initiate the same information that everybody else does. And it's coming out now in space. I don't know why I missed that, but that's hilarious. She's there, she's so flat-footed, she doesn't even... She can't do any repartee with him because she hates him. What people? And she can barely keep a smile on her face. That right there, any good interviewer would have cracked up laughing. Of course, of course.

58:32 What people say, what people say, the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court said this, the Constitution said that. And by the way, I think they nailed 11 or 14, I can't remember, probably 11 million viewers for that episode, and I think they averaged like normally three or four. Whatever the case is, it was a ratings bonanza for 60 Minutes, which Trump always is. Of course he is. And they just, it just bugs them to no end. They still hate him. The hate is, I think the hate is visceral, it's apparent to me, and it was there with Nora. It's so good.

59:07 And I got a lot of people emailing me like, was this the deal he made with Barry Weiss? I said, no, Barry Weiss turns out to be pretty smart. It's like, get the president to do an interview with someone who at least won't be like yelling at him. Let him talk, let him say his thing. And then you'll see that people like it and people want to watch it. I'm impressed. I'm already impressed with Barry Weiss. Way to go. Well, I think they, you know, the last thing she pushed was that other interview that was on the show. I think it was a Whitcoff and Kushner. Yeah, Whitcoff. Right. And it was boring. Very boring. Very boring. Because those two guys are boring. And they set her up. They made the interview boring to prove that Barry Weiss doesn't know what she's doing. It was also Leslie Stahl who did that interview. And she's annoying. Right. She's terrible. She's too old. And not too old for a podcast.

1:00:06 No, she's too old for a podcast. She'd be a terrible podcaster. You're fired! You're fired from podcasting! said the pod problem. When you can't do a podcast, that's saying something. So they set that up so it was a flop and it was, and so then she came up with this idea, I'm sure, and they tried to make it a flop by putting Nora in who hates Trump. I mean, I like the way you think about it, it's different, but that's the way I see it. And it turned out because Trump is Trump, it got a big ratings hit. Now, 60 Minutes, the team there is screwed.

1:00:42 Because now they have to listen to Barry Weiss if she has more suggestions. She got clout now all of a sudden. Twinkle Toes Skydance is like, hey, we love you, Barry. Good job. Everybody listen to Barry. We know how that goes in corporate life. David... One minute you're up, next minute, oh, we never liked her. David Ellison does a memo to all, all at Skydance, all at Skydance.com. Hey, everybody, look, we're so proud of Barry. Good job. And then President Trump got to do his peace president bit. It was fantastic. But I brought, I mean, just a little list of- Look at this. I got a little list. I got a little list. I have a peace list. But I brought, I mean, just a little list of, look at this, wars. How many did I solve? Cambodia, this is- I solved them. Cambodia, Thailand, Kosovo, Serbia,

1:01:34 Congo, the Congo and Rwanda. Pakistan and India, that was going to be a beauty. They shut down seven planes. Israel and Iran. You've heard about that one. Egypt and Ethiopia. That's another beauty. Ethiopia built a big dam where there's no water going to the Nile. Armenia and Azerbaijan. And if you take a look, Israel and Hamas, which is a rough little situation, but it's going to be- I do want to talk about, I mean, you have branded yourself the peace president. Well, I think I did pretty good. I solved those eight of the nine wars. She walked right into that. You know how I solved them? I said, in many cases, in 60%, I said, if you don't stop fighting, I'm putting tariffs on both of your countries and you're not going to be able to do business with the United States. Why isn't that working with Putin?

1:02:21 It is working. What are you talking about? It's working. I did different with him. By the way, that was a good question on her part. And he had a great answer. Yeah, he came. Well, because what the problem is the scripter, these people that just read from a script and they can't read, they're not fast on their feet because they don't do podcasting. Can't think, can't think. They can't think so they get Trump just circles them around, around, and around, and they don't know what they're doing. It's terrible. For people, and we have a lot of listeners who don't like President Trump, you are watching

1:02:58 incredible history in the making. Enjoy these three remaining years. Really, enjoy it because you will never in your life, well we won't, but you, even the Gen Z-ers. I don't think anybody will. This guy is a singular character. You'll never see anything like this in your life. This is your JFK, not comparing him to JFK, but what he is doing is, you know, all of the, so, And this will probably, this should probably lead us into Mahmoud Dani. So you've got all of these Republicans.

1:03:33 who were running for governor and, you know, other, and of course, mayor in New York. And they, and they, they're so stupid. They didn't follow Trump. He even said it, I think. They didn't follow Trump's lead of saying, okay, look, we got the, we've got the border, the woke stuff. That's not what people are interested in right now. Now they want economy better. They want to hear the economy's doing better. What are we doing? I can't believe that the New Jersey governor's race was lost to a Democrat when he literally has a deal like three miles from the New Jersey state line in Pennsylvania to build ships, South Korean ships. He's brought in billions of dollars of deals and we're financing it with credit lines to these countries for South Korea, for Japan, for Argentina. These are credit lines. We are in control of the financing, not Wall Street.

1:04:30 He's, him and Besson, gotta give Besson props. I'm not quite sure where this guy came from. But they are doing incredible things which will work if they don't kill Trump. That seriously keeps crossing my mind. He is going to turn the United States back into a country where you can get a good $80,000, $100,000 a year job working on building big beautiful ships and other stuff. He's pushing trade schools for everybody. Pushing it. This is really, it's an amazing moment to me. And people who are all mad and sitting around, Epstein files. You're missing out on a great show.

1:05:15 You really are. I think it's a great show. What do you think, John? What do you think of the show? He's an entertainer. He's a total entertainer. Well, the reason that that woman kicked his ass in New Jersey is because he was, you know, he attached himself to Trump in such a way that he became associated with the stoppage of the building of that tunnel. Oh yeah, he screwed that one up. He screwed it up. He should have just divorced himself and said we need to get that tunnel built. Yeah. And because that's a job killer and he screwed up. It was just a massive screw up because he was a little too much of a Trump, uh, a sycophant. Yeah. Yeah.

1:05:57 I like to say psycho fans. So then we have, did we talk about this? I told you about, yeah, we did talk about the... The Flynn nonprofit America's Future, they had their little get together. Yeah, we talked a little bit about it. Yeah, because this is the next thing you'll be hearing about. This is so the next thing we all have to add. And this is specifically for conservatives and Republicans, everybody hair on fire. We're gonna be like Europe, Islam has taken over. I already saw fake videos of like, you know, Times Square. Maybe it was real, I don't know, but you don't know anymore. Like, oh we're doing prayer on Times Square five times a day, New York is turning completely Muslim. Not the same story in Europe as it is here in the United States. Is there some danger? Of course there always is.

1:06:53 But even my friends in the men's text groups, like, oh, oh no, they, you know, New York forgot all about 9-11. Now they've elected a Muslim, like, oh man, there's a big difference between what happened on 9-11 and this jamoke, this theater kid. And New York just let that happen. Who was it? Was it your friend who said, oh, your New York friend who said, oh no, he's not going to get elected. Who was that? Didn't you have a friend who said that to you? Yeah, one of an actress friend of mine. Right, right. I guess she forgot to vote. No, we got a Zed in New York. She's like, yeah, we love it. We love it. It's fantastic. We can't wait for it.

1:07:32 Cuomo's a sex predator, so we didn't want him. You know, Sliwa, who cares about him? We don't even know the guy's name, really. Well, there's a couple of things. There's demographic changes in New York which are extreme, and they also, all the Republicans have left. They don't live in New York. They're either in Florida or Texas. Or they're in Jersey or they're someplace else. But they're not in New York. and they can't vote there. And some of them work there, but a lot of them live in Connecticut. Yeah, for sure. And so they're not voting there. And you end up with, if you look at the numbers, it was 93% of all the votes cast in those New York City elections was Democrats. 93%. That is one party rule. Yep. So you just need one guy who's charismatic. And that he is.

1:08:27 He's very charismatic. And I'm happy by the way because the next time the the the Gen Z'er runs into some financial troubles, I'll just say ask your boy Mom Donnie. He'll take care of you. So there were two analysis, the best one was by, and I reposted it on Twitter, at the real Dvorak, again I mentioned this before. Have you gone down again? What happened to my numbers? Are you going down again? No, it's just frozen at 100,000, nine. What am I at?

1:09:02 You're a 99. I can never I cannot crack a hundred K. That's because they're put their limiters are called You know you how the audio works. Yes, I do 99.2. Hey everybody. It's Adam Curry 99.2 FM I'm never going to a hundred ever you might but this beside me somebody's got to change the your number limit Limiter is what it is so It was Glenn Greenwald who took, actually Candace Owens the day before ran this clip which I'm going to play, which she claims is how the election was won. It was won in the first debate because all these guys are a bunch of stooges and Mamdami stood out like a sore thumb as a good guy and it was a setup question

1:09:52 Glenn Greenwald, which is retweeted, you can go look at this presentation, takes it a little step further and analyzes it with some of his mom Donnie's videos and some of the stuff he did on social media. He went out like a man on the street. He was like the Johnny. Went out with a microphone and went float. Sorry? Glenn Greenwald did that? No. Oh, mom Donnie did that. Oh, well, yeah. And then edited everything the way he wanted to. Perfect. Very smart. He was more complex than that and it was the stuff was edited in favor of Trump of all things. Oh interesting. So you'd have to watch the Greenwald presentation, but he had to watch the whole thing. But it's that he stole the basis from Candace the way I see it. I could be wrong. I don't think they thought of it the same way. So Candace says that the whole thing was run one

1:10:44 the debate and the debate was begun with a setup question to try to trap mom Donnie to make him look like is this the Israel question yeah yeah because the question I have it here's the first clip this is the from the debate and the question is bullcrap It comes out the first question is or this question that was asked during the debate was you know it's important that the mayor go visit foreign countries and it's always symbolic the first one they go to it is bullcrap. That's complete bullcrap. The question was just bullcrap and it was designed to get my mom Donny to say he won't go to Israel which he did say. But he had a better answer.

1:11:27 And then he backs it up with, yeah, he had a great answer. Everyone else is, Kiss is going, these guys are stupid. And Cuomo, it seems as if, because he argues at the end of this clip, trying to embarrass mom Donnie. It seems that the whole thing was set up to push for Cuomo, which, you know, is a setup. There's a set of questions, the whole thing was rigged. Backfired. Backfired. And it backfired. He may have gotten the questions, his team may have gotten the questions beforehand. We know this happens with Democrats. I think he was, I heard this when it happened. I think we even talked about it briefly on the show. I'm like, this is an amazing answer for a New York mayoral candidate.

1:12:10 The first foreign visit by a mayor of New York is always considered significant. Where would you go first? Left to right or the south? First visit, I would visit the Holy Land. Mr. Cuomo? Given the hostility and the anti-Semitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel. Mr. Tilson, where would you go? I'd make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror. Mr. Mamdani? I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that. Mr. Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel as mayor? No, I will be doing, as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform, because ultimately we need to focus on delivering on their concerns. And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel? I believe Israel has the right to exist.

1:13:09 As a Jewish state? As a state with equal rights. He won't say it has a right to exist as a Jewish state. And his answer was no, he won't visit Israel. That's what he was trying to say. No, no, no, unlike you I answered questions very directly. My goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family and it could coincide with my young son, Myles Bar Mitzvah. Yeah, I think this theory is correct. It is probably one of the few debate clips that made it into my timeline, my sphere, my email, whatever. So it must have been the one that had the most virality that people saw. And of course, it's almost like Trump America first, New York first. It's a simple answer. It was a setup and it blew up in their face.

1:14:01 Yeah, they all lost their asses to this guy because of that. Now Candace of course goes off a little bit on it to ridicule the Israelis and the Jews and the rest of them. So I have that little piece of it. I don't have the whole thing because she is like Dave Smith. She's talking to him. M'kay. M'kay. And so she goes off, but this little part is good. The green-walled version of this is better, and I'd recommend people go look at it on Twitter. This is Candace. This is our country, you guys. That's it. You know what? I'm gonna take my 19th trip to Israel. Oh, well, I'm gonna take my first trip after my son's bar mitzvah. Oh, I was planning on stopping over on the way for our honeymoon. We were gonna stop and just go to Israel and do whatever we could.

1:14:49 It's ridiculous and it's obvious and the way that the establishment comes down if you don't peddle those talking points, he says something totally normal. And we have to remember that Candace was a Democrat, you know, before the whole Kanye thing. And, you know, I don't even know where she stands politically anymore. But she's right about this. Of course. Of course she is. But, and again, the debate over Israel and America is over. And I just want to accentuate this. We got another note from one of our producers. He has a Millennial and a Gen Z. I just need to share this because

1:15:31 It's good information for you and for I. My two kids could not be more unlike each other. They are eight years apart. My millennial stepson, 26, who introduced us all to hypno-sissy porn, is mentally not doing well. I know this producer because we've read other notes from him about the hypno-sissy porn. He has held the job for about a year, which is great. However, he requires that we acknowledge his greatness for holding his job. He literally thinks that we should go to his place of work to witness his greatness in action. His claim is that we no longer show him love and do not support him or take part in his life. From our perspective, he is verbally abusive, brags about every little thing he does, he's tolerable, one to two visits a month. He thinks we should be hanging out with him and his friends.

1:16:18 Everyone I know with a kid that is 22 to 29 is effed up, confused about their sexuality, addicted to perverted pornography, unable to create careers, unable to create healthy relationships. These kids all went to therapy and they are worse for it. Our son's therapists have turned him against us and honestly played a big role in his drift into transgender lifestyle. They created shame instead of helping him work through it. These kids needed a pastor, not a therapist. They will be remembered as the loneliest generation. Now, my 18-year-old Gen Z could not be more different. About three years ago he was led to Christ through friends. His entire friend group is from church. Church is their social place. When we were kids we used to go to parties and get wasted. They go to church. He met a wonderful church girl that he has been dating. He's attended a

1:17:05 attending Liberty University. God has done really amazing things in his life. I'm incredibly grateful as the church filled in some parenting pieces that as parents we didn't think of. He is not alone. A large percentage of kids around his age are church kids. He got me to attend a couple of times and the number of kids from 15 to 20 year olds was very surprising. Liberty streams the twice weekly convocations. I watched the convocations. He says, these kids all watch Nick Fuentes. They are all anti-DEI. They are all skeptical of Israel. They are skeptical of Erica Kirk. They are anti-abortion. Pornography and phone use are their big issues and they are aware of the issues. However, when we were kids, we had don't drink and drive and this is your brain on drugs campaigns. They need the same to make these issues equally as scary.

1:17:57 That's, wow, you know, there's someone boots on the ground who says this is, yeah, the loneliest generation is the millennials. And they're screwed. And these Gen Z kids, when it comes to Israel, they're skeptical. You're not going to convince them any other way. So might as well use it for political gain. And that's exactly what Mamdani did here in the right way. Well, he, I don't think the Israel issue was that front-facing with him so much, because I looked at a lot of his stuff. He is mostly about, he pushed the affordability issues, and he also got 35% of the Jewish vote in New York City. Yeah, that's amazing, isn't it? And so there's that. I don't think, and of course I wrote a column on this predicting all this, of course, nailing it.

1:18:59 Not to pat myself on the back. Would you like an award? We can do a special... Yes! A peace prize. A peace prize? So the point is is that we don't know what he how he's going to govern because he has no Oh, no, of course It's it's gonna be a group of people just like they ran Biden. You know, we did anything Yes, it's gonna be a but he if he can put a team together that can govern it. He's putting anything together He's already got a team and this is a bad sign he made a big point in mentioning that his transition team is

1:19:38 All female. Oh no, it's gonna be horrible. He made an announcement that the transition team is all female and to do that is a bad sign. Of course it is a bad sign for New York but this is what this is what they want. This is the DSA which by the way I did some research in the DSA. It's not actually a party. I mean it's just a group. You have a website. They have a website, but it's not a political party. They're a group and they've got funding and there's unions in there, a lot of socialists and Marxists, mostly socialists and Islamists. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like radical type people, not people who practice Islam or Muslim, but Islamists serious, like, what are you doing? And it's going to suck.

1:20:29 Of course, it's gonna be horrible and it will be great because we can all look at New York and say, well, we don't want that. You're kind of hoping it sucks. Yes. I think, I hate to say that I'm hoping it sucks. Because I like New York and I've worked there and it's like, I don't. I live there, of course. I love it. Yeah, you live there. So we don't dislike the city and it's But it does go through these phases. I mean, I went the first time I went to New York, that's when Dinkins was the mayor. Oh, worst mayor ever.

1:21:05 Dinkins was bad. He was really bad. I was I was living and working there when Dinkins was mayor. It was yeah well, sorry to hear that so I went there and I will say that the change that then Giuliani came along and the changes were so radical fast and Fast yeah, it was really fast so the town can turn on a dime, but I do recall during the Dinkins era and I don't want to get into any details but the town was a lot of fun. Yeah, well, yeah, Times Square was still dangerous. It was great. It was it was it was a fun place. It was a fun time. You had to be careful. Yes. Yeah. You'd be very careful. I had a rabbit fur leather coat, full length leather coat. I walked around Times Square like a pimp. It was great. And there was, you know, dirty movies and hookers and. Oh, that 42nd Street theater. The theater line of theaters was all filth. Yeah. And then

1:22:04 Which reminds me, by the way, I'm going to bring this up, that you went to that mystery party and you had the hottie give the lucivious note to you that you read on the show. Yes. And we talked about this, uh, Lurid, I guess was the name of it, I'd call it a note. At the dinner table? You had a chat about this at the dinner table? No, no, I was thinking about it. No, I had a chat with you after the show about it and there was a piece of information you left out What was that? That she conveyed that I thought should have been talked about on the show. What part was that? That all the women she knows... Oh, yes, well that wasn't in the note. Let me, I'm happy to tell everybody that... Hey,

1:22:47 I got a lot on my mind, okay? There's a lot going on in this show. So it's not like I withheld it, but yes. No, I didn't say you withheld it. I just said I wanted you, because it came in after the show and I knew it wasn't going to come up out of the blue unless I brought it up. She said that all the women that listen to the show, she says of the women she knows that listen to the show, all feel that I am very mean to you. Yeah, I think she's dead on. And I said... The women are very observant. Yes, and she said, and we like it. What do you mean she said we like it? She didn't say that. You somehow have an incredible sex appeal amongst the 30 to 40 year olds, female. It's uncanny really. There's something, which of course is partially due to our lack of video on the podcast.

1:23:40 Yeah, because you saw me out. I don't know. I don't think so. There's an example of you being mean to me. She's nailed it. That's a perfect example right there. Subtle, but yet there it is. You're, you know, you're one chance of being funny and it has to be at my expense. Of course. Yes. Well, as we say in the old country, was ich lieb, das neck sich. What you what you love you make fun of oh? That's a good one. That's true all right onward. Yes onward you're on mom Donnie

1:24:21 Do I have any more mom done? Well, you've got mom Donnie NTD clips or you've got the acceptance opener. You've got all kinds of acceptance opener. I watched the whole 23 minutes. He goes on and on and on and he cycles, he cycles. He's very Trumpy in this guy. It effect is except for the fact that he's a socialist and he's going to screw up because he's going to have an all women team. or whatever he's going to do wrong. How many of the women are black and how many of the women are black and gay? They're all over the map. You can count on being trans, black, you know, Hispanics. There's probably not a white girl in there. All right, perfect. And so, so this is the, so he starts off, his public speaking is so much, it's the best Democrat speaker. He speaks like an old... In a long time. Sorry, what? The best Democrat speaker we've seen in a long time.

1:25:17 Better than Obama. He is outstanding and he's got writers. This speech, this 23-minute ad-lib acceptance speech was written months ago and massaged and massaged. I only have a couple minutes of it. I'm not gonna... and this is just the opening. He got... later on when he attracts... attracts... attacks Trump and does other things. It's all well-structured. and it's a little long, he's boring. This is a problem he's gonna have, because he's using the Trump model. Trump is boring. I hate to tell you this, but I've seen him on these things, he goes on, he talks at least 10 minutes too long sometimes, he just goes on too much. I mean, it's funny for a while, and then you get sick of it. This guy's gonna be the same way. He's gonna talk you to death, but listen to the poetic way

1:26:09 way he presents the opening of the speech. The working people of New York have been told by the wealthy and the well-connected that power does not belong in their hands. Fingers bruised from lifting boxes on the warehouse floor, palms calloused from delivery bike handlebars, knuckles scarred with kitchen burns. These are not hands that have been allowed to hold power. And yet over the last 12 months, you have dared to reach for something greater.

1:27:03 Tonight, against all odds, we have grasped it. The feud is in our hands. My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty. I wish Andrew Cuomo only the best in private life. But let tonight be the final time I utter his name as we turn the page on a politics that abandons the many and answers only to the few. Oh, man.

1:27:49 I never expected Debs to be the hero of today's socialists. That's amazing! Well, Eugene Debs is code. You drop his name to indicate you're a socialist because he's a famous, probably the most famous socialist ever. He went to jail I think. Yes, he was in jail, wrote a lot of stuff in jail, very famous for being in jail. He ran for president from jail. The socialists of this country, the communists, a lot of democrats, the super lefties, if If you say you even know who he is, they go nuts. I gotta tell you that... Eugene Debs' code. It's a code word. I don't think I saw a single M5M talking head even mention that he talked about Debs.

1:28:35 I did. Oh, you did? Okay. Yeah, I can't remember. I can't tell you who. It probably was Fox. Right. Of course, but not on MSNBC or CNN. No, no, no, nobody else would know. None of that. So, which gives me, brings me to a point. I don't know if I have any clips on this. Make a point. I have a letter from a guy. We were talking about, you know, Comey's been indicted and now they're going to go after Brennan, it looks like, and all these other things. And it's based on a I'm working on a column, so there's a thought process here. The Arctic frost. Yes. Now this came out of finding a bunch of burn bags in an obscure room. Yes.

1:29:20 outside of a scaffold. By the way, what's the point of putting it in a burn bag and not burning the bag? Well, we have a note from one of our military insiders. There we go. Boots on the ground. ITM legends, please keep me anonymous for the sake of people or information. Legends, there you go. Legends. We are the legends. He's got the right idea. Yes. Burn bags come back to the forefront with the Comey investigation allegedly revealing troves of burn bags with classified material from them from years ago. I'd imagine many people are wondering how could this even be possible? The answer is absolutely. I am a retired military officer who's done entire tours working in SCIFs, S-C-I-F, which stands for, I forgot. Secure Communications something something.

1:30:14 It's basically a tent. It's a room. It's a tent in the room, yeah. You have a cubby outside the door that you put your personal electronic devices in. You scan an access card or enter a code and you go in for work. You can only enter these spaces if your clearance will allow it. Advantages of SCIFs are you can have open classified material and work on anything you need to without fear of prying eyes or any sort of security concerns. These areas are typically have burn bags in which in most offices or cubicles. There are also burn bags located by the approved

1:30:53 by the approved paper shredders in common spaces within the skiff. So the bags are in there, just paper shredders into the whole thing. The truth of the matter is that these burn bags rarely get emptied into the shredder and most of the time just get moved into some secure location like a broom closet or supply room and forgotten about. Most people just place their unwanted classified material in a burn bag and assume Someone else will dispose of it at an appropriate manner according to the classification. Very rarely does this happen. Honestly, I am surprised that more incriminating material hasn't been found about more classified operations in old forgotten burn bags. I guess they're all over the place. What's interesting

1:31:52 This is the final paragraph. What's interesting is there's about six hours of required training annually, annually on how to handle, transport, maintain and dispose of classified material appropriately. Clearly, most people don't pay attention during the disposal section of that training. Hope this helps. Wow. So it's, how typical is that? It's just sound when it go I've worked for the government long enough. I'm reading this yep government nonsense Yep, Wow this put I put in the burn bag Both I put in the burn bag boss. I did my jobs. I

1:32:38 So there's probably a trove of material that they're gonna go after Comey and Clapper and Brennan all this stuff or the Arctic Frost. So I'm thinking because I'm going to write a column about this because none of the mainstream media is writing at all about Arctic Frost, none of them. So if you recall some years ago, we had one of our contacts talk about how if you have a security clearance or you work for an Intel agency, even if something's released that's classified and it's a public domain, it's on the New York Times, you're not allowed to read it. You're not allowed to read it. Wait, don't we have the Cuomo kid talking about that?

1:33:27 Famous. Somebody was talking about it, but it has also been, you know, it was brought up on the show. We discussed it in detail. So I'm thinking, hold on a second. Why aren't the big newspapers and outlets discussing Arctic frost? Because they're all spooks. Are they so compromised that all the reporters are read in and they're not allowed to read it or talk about it? Yeah, because they're all spooks. They're all spooks. Yeah, exactly. Because there's no reason this is a great story. It is a good story. It's a great story. So here's now with the burn bag information. Oh my god. Here's the

1:34:06 It's about a minute and a half from the 60 Minutes interview edited. This is Trump on Comey and Bolton, etc. I want to ask you about another matter. James Comey, John Bolton, Letitia James were all recently indicted. There is a pattern to these names. They're all public figures who have publicly denounced you. Is it political retribution? You know who got indicted? the man you're looking at. I got indicted and I was innocent. And here I am because I was able to beat all of the nonsense that was thrown at me. But you can't then accuse me of weaponizing government. They were horrible human beings. They went after the president of the United States. They went after my children. They went into my wife's

1:34:56 I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. And I only say in my opinion, because I guess the lawyers would prefer that I say that, because I have a much stronger opinion. She's a total crook. She's a lowlife. Comey's a dirty cop. Bolton actually helped me a lot because he was crazy. He's the one who want him and Cheney. A couple of people got Bush to go out and blow the hell out of the Middle East and then take, you know, then leave. And actually, Bolton helped me because every time somebody saw Bolton standing behind me,

1:35:42 Foreign countries they conceded you know why they conceded because they said Bolton's a nutjob Trump is gonna take us to war, but I don't listen to people that are stupid Oh Fabulous Bolton's a nutjob Now, I want to mention to people out there who don't know this because they keep bringing this Bolton thing up. The Bolton investigation began during the Biden administration. This is nothing new that Trump started. Right. OK. If you don't mind, I asked Rob, the constitutional lawyer about the Supreme Court

1:36:29 The tariff decision. I have some clips. Yeah, you want to play your clips first? Yeah, maybe then you can... I can add some color, maybe. You can do the clarification. I can try, yes. What do we have here? You have... Supreme, oh yes, I have it unfortunately spelled Foo-preem. Yeah, it's okay. I speak Dvorak, so it's not a problem. So the Foo-preem-coot. tariffs. How did you even get to F? This D is in the middle. I'm looking, looking. The F and the S, they're two keys apart. I have no idea. Okay, but it happened. It happens. It's okay. The Fupreme Court. The Trump administration saying it's optimistic after attending the SCOTUS arguments on President Trump's global tariffs. And the president speaking to business leaders in Miami today reacting to last night's election results.

1:37:20 We now go live to NTD's Washington correspondent, Mari Otsu, at the White House. Good evening, Mari. What is the administration saying about the president's tariff case? Tiff, good evening. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, just a little while ago, is saying that he's, quote, very optimistic about the Supreme Court case that's considered the legality of President Trump's global tariffs. Besson, who attended the arguments today, says that the solicitor general presented what he calls quote strong persuasive arguments and he says that the plaintiffs fundamentally misunderstood and misrepresented President Trump's trade goals. Take a look. It gives him the ultimate negotiating authority. Sometimes the best tariff

1:38:00 are the ones that never get him forth. Every camera, every iPhone here would have been subject to a Chinese patrol because he had the ability to threaten 100% tariff. He was able to successfully execute on foreign policy. Okay, I'm glad you have these because this is all positive. Yeah, I think they say, well, NTD, you know, they... Yeah, of course. They hate China, so... Fupreme good. They have to like Trump. China bad, Fupreme good. President Trump has repeatedly emphasized that without his tariffs there would be no national security. And meanwhile, President Trump today is reminiscing about his election victory exactly a year ago while lamenting the results of last night's election. Take a look.

1:38:47 I'm a very modest person, I would never say this. The single most consequential election victory in American history. President Trump celebrates the anniversary of his 2024 election win and proclaims the golden age of America. November 5th, 2024, the American people reclaimed our government. We restored our sovereignty. We lost a little bit of sovereignty last night in New York, but We'll take care of it, don't worry about it. While reacting to Republican losses on election night with By the way, it's even better. So I'm always misspelling tariffs because I always do double R, one F. Just it's like, it's hard to get it out of my system. So you have tariffs spelled correctly, but you have fupreme coot. It's even better. You don't even have the R in court. If I get closer to the screen, it might help. I do have the tariffs analysis clip, which is this.

1:39:40 This one that's standalone, it says... Yes, I got it. I got it. The Trump administration's solicitor general defended the president's power to impose global tariffs on Wednesday before a skeptical panel of Supreme Court justices. Skeptical! On April 2nd, President Trump determined that our exploding trade deficits have brought us to the brink of an economic and national security catastrophe. He further pronounced that the traffic of fentanyl and other opioids into our country has created a public health crisis taking hundreds of thousands of American lives. President Trump has declared that these emergencies are country killing and not sustainable, that they threaten the bedrock of our national and economic security, and that fixing them will make America a strong, financially viable, and respected country again.

1:40:23 A handful of small businesses in 12 Democratic states have accused the president of overstepping his authority by imposing global tariffs where the law doesn't allow it. They maintain that only Congress has the power to regulate tariffs. Tariffs are taxes. They take dollars from Americans' pockets and deposit them in the U.S. Treasury. Our founders gave that taxing power to Congress alone. Yet here, the president bypassed Congress and imposed one of the largest tax increases in our lifetimes. Many doctrines explain why this is illegal, like the presumption that Congress speaks clearly when it imposes taxes and duties, and the major questions doctrine. But it comes down to common sense. It's simply implausible that in enacting IEPA, Congress handed the president the power to overhaul the entire tariff system and the American economy in the process.

1:41:15 The court is not expected to make a ruling today, but it appears that the justices are concerned about the Trump administration's regulation of tariffs globally, with several justices questioning whether he properly interpreted the statute in question. That was kind of middle of the road. That was NTD. And they got, they kind of got the main talking point, which came out, interestingly enough, within 30 minutes of the three hours that this took. It was supposed to be I think it was supposed to be 90 minutes, they went for 180 minutes. But right away, within 30 minutes, which was the opening questions and they were grilling the administration's lawyer, the solicitor general, I forget his name, who has a very, very unfortunate voice. And so Bloomberg- He needs to clear his throat. And so Bloomberg comes out with this. What's got your attention in these arguments today?

1:42:12 Well, I think I would agree, I think with most commentators so far that it does feel like the justices as a whole are leaning toward the plaintiffs away from the government and really challenging the government on their interpretation of the statute, on the delegation issues. Did Congress give this power, which is a congressional power to impose tariffs to the president? We had Justice Barrett asking a lot of really pointed questions about the words in the statute, their meaning, and whether they encompass this authority.

1:42:51 And here is MSNBC and the Stephanie Rule Show. They of course took it to the expected conclusion after the first 30 minutes of reports were in. You wrote about today's arguments for Slate and you called them a bloodbath for Trump. Well, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that the Supreme Court is going to strike down these tariffs. Explain why. A lot of people were not tuned in today. So at least three conservative justices, John Roberts, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, came

1:43:33 ever even attempted to use it for tariffs. And now Trump thinks that it gives him the power to impose any tariffs he wants against any country he wants for as long as he wants. This Supreme Court spent four years of the Biden administration saying, look, if the president wants to do something big and bold, he needs to have clear congressional authorization for it. That authorization does not exist here in this statute. And so at least those three justices, plus the three liberals, I mean, they were being consistent. They were saying, we just don't see in the law that you're showing us anything that looks like authorization. I love this guy. Look, I'm telling you, this is a bloodbath. Okay, fine. So a couple of terms that are good to understand. IEPA, I-E-E-P-A, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.

1:44:22 In peacetime emergencies declared by the president, AIIPA gives the president the power to regulate any transaction in foreign exchange by means of instructions, licenses or otherwise. This is where it gets all kind of a little crazy. It was basically, forgive me Lord, ant-fucking over language. This language is often described as capacious. So, the question is... Are you reading from the lawyer's brief? Yes, I am. It was not clear. Yes, I'm sorry. So, how capacious can it be under the Constitution? Then we have the TWEA, the Trading with the Enemy Act.

1:45:04 By the way, the ant-fucking term is mine. During times of declared war, TWEA gives the president the same power. Because we're not in a declared war situation, TWEA doesn't apply here. But the statutory language received attention during the oral argument. Then you have, these are interesting, the non-delegation doctrine. that says one branch of government usually congress can't delegate its powers to another branch but there are many exceptions see our entire administrative state yeah yeah and then the c chevron deference as an example

1:45:41 The major questions doctrine is related to non-delegation. It says that courts won't read a statute to empower the president to determine a major political or economic questions unless the statute makes it clear and explicit. To quote the late Justice Scalia, Congress doesn't hide elephants in mouse holes. So this whole thing really comes down to language. Now, the first hour, this is where we have the Secretary General with a very unfortunate voice, and he is being hounded by the justices. And Rob says, and I thought this was interesting, he says, we lawyers sometimes hear the adage that if judges are leaning toward one party on a controversial issue, they'll direct the toughest questions to that party just to make sure they're not missing anything.

1:46:38 And I thought that was interesting because that is clearly what was going on here. I'll play a bit of it. Justice Gorsuch. General, just a few questions following up on the major questions discussions you've had. You say that we shouldn't be so concerned in the area of foreign affairs because of the president's inherent powers. That's the gist of it, as I understand it, why we should disregard both major questions and non-delegation. So could Congress delegate to the president the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations as he sees fit? to lay and collect duties as he sees fit? We don't assert that here. That would be a much harder case now. In 1790? Isn't that the logic of your view, though? I don't think so, because we're dealing with a statute that was a carefully crafted compromise. It does have all the limitations that I just talked about. You're saying we shouldn't look, we shouldn't be concerned with... I want to explain to me how you draw the line, because you say we shouldn't be concerned because this is foreign affairs and the president has inherent authority, and so

1:47:40 delegation off the books more or less. And if that's true, what would prohibit Congress from just abdicating all responsibility to regulate foreign commerce, for that matter declare war to the president? We don't contend that he could do that. Why not? Well because... So that's the kind of grilling he got. Very, very thorough. So then we have... now it comes down to the language otherwise and licenses and tariffs because it's called tariffs it seems to be the big issue. So Justice Gorsuch, our position is not that regulate can never mean tax or tariff. Our brief at page 15 gives you an example. A president may regulate cars coming in to the city and then if it adds by charging tolls or something like that absolutely in context it does. Here the context you're referring to is

1:48:33 story and so on, says nothing about this case. That is the constitutional context about Congress's use of power. But it's part of how we understand languages used and it's relevant for that purpose. And then when you've got licenses which are economically the same thing as tariffs. Would you agree they're basically economically the same thing as tariffs? Sometimes they can be. Okay, so you've got something that's economically identical to a tariff. authorized by this statute. Where does that leave you? It's a matter of plain language. Let me take the question in two parts. One is about the word regulate and the other is about licensing. With respect to the word regulate, when it's used in the constitutional sense, it's very different than the sense in IEPA that my friend is asserting. When we're asserting IEPA, we're talking about a statute that is

1:49:24 granting the president massive powers. And so the relevant context that I think you look at in asking the question, what did Congress mean in 1977? The best context, the most natural context is, what does Congress say every time they grant the president such power? There's just one other point on this. Constitutions are read totally differently. Story and Madison are talking about the constitutional phrase, and as Chief Justice Marshall said in McCulloch, a constitution works bounding the prolixity of a legal code is the opposite of the way you read the constitution. I do follow that argument. Okay. So it turns out you read words differently when they're in the Constitution versus in U.S. law. Then Kavanaugh comes in.

1:50:08 And he's now talking to the prosecution, which is a wine importer and some Democrat states who don't like this. And this is interesting because it turns out the president does have this power, but he doesn't have it in a certain way. They call it the donut hole. And I want to pick up on Justice Barrett's question because your interpretation of the statute, as she pointed out, would allow the president to shut down all trade with every other country in the world or to impose some significant quota on imports from every other country in the world but would not allow a 1% tariff.

1:50:53 And that leaves, in the government's words, an odd donut hole in the statute. Why would a rational Congress say, yeah, we're going to give the president the power to shut down trade. I mean, think about the effects. But you're admitting that power's in there. But can't do a 1% tariff. That doesn't seem, but I want to get your answer. to have a lot of common sense behind it. I think it absolutely does because it's a fundamentally different power. It's not a donut hole, it's a different kind of pastry. And on that power... Even Kavanaugh thought that was funny. That's a good one.

1:51:38 On that power, though, and you've said this many times, Mr. Cattial too, and look, I get this, obviously, but the court has repeatedly said a tariff on foreign imports is an exercise of the commerce power, not the of the taxation power. So, you know, this whole idea that the Supreme Court was skeptical, I disagree with. I think that they really saw the issue here and it comes down to are you calling it a tax? Because that's what we hear Ron, Rand Paul call it and, you know, and of course the entire Democrat caucus of, oh, it's, it's taxing the American people, but no.

1:52:21 It's called raising revenue and it's foreign-facing. We're really getting into the weeds here. Yes, sure, the tariffs are a tax and that's a core power of Congress, but they're a foreign-facing tax, right? And that foreign affairs is a core power of the executive. This is Alito. And I don't think you can dismiss the consequences. I mean, we didn't stay in this case and one thing is quite clear is that the foreign facing tariffs have in several situations... Right and we are... I'm sorry. Shut up. ...quite effective in achieving particular objectives. So I don't think you can just separate it when you say well this is a tax, Congress's power. It implicates very directly the President's foreign affairs power.

1:53:08 And then the final clip, which I think is really what this will hinge on, is if this is a war situation, of course the president would be allowed to do this. You say that this is not... This is Alito. Sorry, it was Roberts before that. This is Alito. This case does not... These executive orders do not address an unusual and extraordinary threat. I understand that argument. Suppose that The facts were that it was indis- I suppose that there was an imminent threat of war. Not a declared war, but an imminent threat of war with a very powerful enemy whose economy was heavily dependent on U.S. trade. Could a president under this provision impose a tariff as a way of trying to stave off that war? Or would you say no, the president lacks that power? Couldn't do tariff, but could do quota, embargo, all of those things.

1:54:06 He could do all those things, but the president could not impose a tariff. There's one thing he couldn't do. There's a category shift between a tariff and the other eight powers in IEPA because it is revenue raising. So it's not a difference in degree or something like that. That's why, you know, I don't doubt tomorrow. Even if the purpose of this had nothing whatsoever to do with raising one penny. The president didn't want to raise one penny. The president wanted to deter aggression that would bring the United States into a war. You would say no, can't do that. Just a little, I think you've said many times the purpose isn't what you look at. You look to actually what the government is doing. And if you disagree, if you ruled for us and the president says I need this power, he can go across the street to Congress tomorrow and get it by a simple majority through reconciliation. But if you vote for them,

1:54:56 This power, as Justice Gorsuch said, as Justice Barrett said, is going to be stuck with us forever. The power to jump... So I think that's why Trump is pulling out the hedge on this. I think that's why he's saying, hey, use the nuclear option. We need to have, you know, just get rid of the filibuster for the end this shutdown because he might need that. No, he just said it takes a simple majority from Congress. He doesn't need 60 votes. Oh, really? Okay. Okay. I don't think... the filibuster thing is going nowhere. There's a couple of things that caught my eye. It's like they gave him an out on one, licensing's okay. Yes. So, you know, because here's what in the back of my mind when I'm listening to these clips is besant.

1:55:47 You came out a couple of days ago and said, don't worry about it. Whatever happened doesn't make any difference. We have alternative ways of doing this. We have our ways. Six ways to Sunday. We have our ways. Six ways to Sunday. So doing this, we can make it hurt for you. We can make it hurt very much. So the alternative ways would be one, embargo. No. No trade. Yeah. He can do that for sure. That's what he said. That's what the justices said right there. Yeah. And also licensing. Just change the territory to a license. Yes. Yeah. I don't see this being a big deal. No, Rob the constitutional lawyer says he views the odds as not bad. Which is lawyer speak. Yeah, but not bad is better than listening to MSNBC. A bloodbath!

1:56:35 It's like the last people listen to that network So the he says that the tariff so the main argument is that the tariff opponents say the president can issue licenses as long as they don't involve fees that generate revenue SCOTUS will spend a lot of time scrubbing this out and ultimately You're right. And if that's all that the president is left with, he'll say, OK, embargo, no trade or license, you know, and the license will depend upon you giving us rare earth or whatever. By the way, President Trump did get a one year extension on that deal on rare earths in time, you know, for some other alternative avenues to be to be ramped up. So that was he's definitely done something good there. So I think I think not bad. Yeah, sounds about right to me.

1:57:30 Yeah, he also encouraged Australia and other places including here to restart processing these things. He says it's gonna take a year or two. Yeah, yeah. He said that in the CBS interview. It was a mistake. You saw this years ago. The rare earth situation was not gonna be good. Well, it was 10 years ago that we still had a processing plant in California, the Mollie Corps. Yeah, there you go. And I have clips where we should probably take a break. I have clips of that. Before we take a break, I have the perfect intro to the break. OK, let me guess. Does it involve something from TikTok? Yes, it does. And it's a clip. It's a bonus clip. Ah, yes. OK. Yes. The bonus clip. Yes. I got you got your bonus clip.

1:58:21 Do you want to set it up? A woman who hates men and thinks the vote should be taken away from them. I think that we should just repeal a man's right to vote. It's kind of what I'm thinking about. It's kind of what I've been mulling over recently because I know there's been a lot of chit-chat amongst evangelical Christians, particularly stemming from the voices of men, which is classic, honestly, that they want to repeal the 19th Amendment. And I think that really what should happen, because I mean, Look at every empire that has existed under a man's rule. What has happened to it? Right, right. So what I'm kind of thinking of, you know what? I think even more so we should just take all men and put them in cages, particularly a straight white man, particularly a straight white, a straight white man with a podcast. Those have got to be the first to fucking go.

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2:00:00 Five years ago, Dave Jones and I started the Podcast Index. We created the namespace when people said, ah, no one cares what you're doing. Who knows? No more features. You know, I like you doing that voice, but I have no idea what you said. What were they bitching about? They said, because we said, hey, you know what? Apple doesn't own podcasting. We can create as many new features as we want and these modern podcast apps, they will do it and people will use, you know, people use Podverse more than any other podcast app to listen to the show. I think Fountain is number two. We've got Podcast Guru and then you, and we're not even on Spotify by design. So there's all these cool features and transcripts was one. Oh,

1:59:11 That's good. We're out. We're done. We're in cages. We're done. We should be grandfathered in somehow. I don't know. That doesn't sound fair. With that, I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Foo Preem court. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John Cena. In the morning to you, Mr. Secretary of the Ministry of the Civil and Civilian Affairs, I'm still one of the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me give you a count here. Don't stop moving around. There we go. And we're inching our way back, 1743, that's not too bad. Yeah, it's only down 50. Yeah, we're good. Welcome trolls. They're listening at trollroom.io or they could be listening on one of those modern podcast apps. And I have news about the modern podcast apps.

2:00:00 Five years ago, Dave Jones and I started the Podcast Index. We created the namespace when people said, ah, no one cares what you're doing. Who knows? No more features. You know, I like you doing that voice, but I have no idea what you said. What were they bitching about? They said, because we said, hey, you know what? Apple doesn't own podcasting. We can create as many new features as we want and these modern podcast apps, they will do it and people will use, you know, people use Podverse more than any other podcast app to listen to the show. I think Fountain is number two. We've got Podcast Guru and then you, and we're not even on Spotify by design. So there's all these cool features and transcripts was one. Oh,

2:00:50 I guess Apple adopted transcripts earlier this year. And two days later... So what, you're actually trying to tell me that people complained about having more features? Yes. No. No, you have to understand the podcast industrial complex, they don't like anybody rocking any boat for anything. And quite honestly, they find me annoying. Because I'm like, hey, what? I'm sure they just find me annoying. You know, the podcast, you know, we said, yeah, we said, hey, this you're not going to get deplatformed from this. And then people went, yeah, but you know, Alex Jones, he should be he shouldn't be on the podcast.

2:01:32 You understood that. Alex, chill. And there were several podcasts, not the biggest ones, but a big one, a podcast hosting company, who said, nobody cares about what you're doing. We're not adopting any of your features. Podbean? No. No, Podbean is actually progressive. They are forward looking and forward leaning. And two days ago, Apple Podcasts adopted another one of our features, which is the cloud chapters. And so now, and I think they're smart because- You should get an award. An international peace prize. We're going to send you a peace prize. I want a peace prize. So that's a big win. And that shows that Apple is looking at what we're doing. They're considering what we're doing. We have moved the needle on a very big company and it's good for podcasting.

2:02:23 And I think it's great. And it's because a lot of people are using these modern podcast apps. Apple's like, we're losing market share. We lost the whole percent to those guys. A percent's a lot for them. For them, a percent is a lot. But it's also the way we're moving it. And it's not me and Dave, it's an entire orchestra of misfits who are doing this. And I want to congratulate them for moving this a little bit forward. And of course in 10 years from now it'll all be Adam Carolla's idea. Yeah, it already is, by the way. So as long as I get my International Peace Prize, that'll be fine with me. So go to podcastapps.com. You even see Apple now listed in that list because they have three features that are new. So congratulations to them. They are good people over there. It's a behemoth of a company. So I'm glad that they're able to move the needle.

2:03:18 And by the way, I think that the next tag will be the funding tag, which the modern podcast apps have. If you look in any of the aforementioned podcast apps, you'll see a button that you can press that button and it will take you right to the donation page of the No Agenda Show. It's amazing! It really is quite helpful. So you're listening, you hear like, hey, you can support us with a donation, value for value. You just go to your podcast app, you don't have to remember anything even though noagendadonations.com is not that hard to remember. You just press the button. You press the button, boom, you're there, you make a donation, you've helped your favorite podcast. I believe that Apple will do this next. And then you're going to see things happen. And I need to mention something about value for value.

2:04:04 Tina has been inundated with people asking her for information. She has a form email now about the crowd health, crowdfunded insurance, it's not insurance, but crowdfunded health care. What is the right word for that? It's got to be a word for it. Meta share. Yeah, meta share. And I just want to explain how it works. You pay a very low amount monthly. I think it's $99 for the first three months, but she pays under $200. The first $500 is for you.

2:04:43 And then if you have an emergency or something happens, it's going to be more money than that. You tell them, they immediately go to work. They negotiate directly with that provider. They negotiate it down. It's like 30, 25 cents on the dollar. They tell you exactly what to do, what to say, what to sign, what not to sign. And then they go out to the community, which is quite big at this point, and they say, OK, who is this operation? Crowd Health. Where are they located? I think they're in Texas, but they're nationwide. You can use them anywhere because it's just a crowd. It's actually value for value. That's the thing I wanted to explain. So from time to time, like every couple of months, Tina told me, she'll get a request to support someone or someones they sometimes bundle and say, OK, we've got a pregnancy. We've got three people with cancer. We got this going on. We got a broken back.

2:05:41 And then it says, will you help support? So you're paying this low amount and then, okay, I'm going to provide some value to the system. And it's like a hundred bucks or maybe 150 bucks. It's not a lot of money. It's every two months. So you're still way under your $2,000 of nonsense that you're paying for nothing. And then when it's your turn, you get a value for value credit check. It's like, hey, this person supported it. So when it's your turn, when your turn comes around, they say, hey, look, this person has always supported everybody else. We're now going to support you. And Tina can explain all that, Code Bongino. But it's... Unfortunately, once you hit 65, you're out of the system. Because then, apparently, you've got Medicare and you're on your own. Medicare's not bad. No, I know. I know. That's why I keep telling you. Don't worry about it. What do you think it costs a month? Nothing.

2:06:41 No, it costs money. You're under a misassumption. What does it cost a month? About 180 bucks. Right. Don't you have some donut hole you have to fill up because it doesn't take care of some things? Drugs. Drugs? Okay. Well, President Trump is getting those prices into check for us. It's a scam. It's a scam. It's all a scam. Drugs are a scam. Anyway, so, but I find it a very interesting value for value type of proposition. It's a lifestyle. It's a new international lifestyle. Live it if you want to. If not, then pay those bankers $2,000 a month for nothing with your $8,000 deductible. Good luck with that.

2:07:22 So we have lived by value for value. We know it works and we don't have any credit checks on you to see if you donate it. Although we do notice that a lot of people... We check. I don't. I don't have... I have nothing to check. When some nasty note comes in and a guy comes on and he says, I'm not gonna donate anymore. I'm sick of you guys. I usually check. And? They're never donating. They never have donated, never will. This reminds me when I was a magazine writer, you know, I'm gonna cancel my subscription. They have no subscription. If you have access to the database, they don't have a subscription to begin with. It's bullcrap. Well, that's interesting. Isn't it? There's some things just always stay the same.

2:08:05 And it's also uniform. Well, that's what they think is leverage. Yes. Well, I was talking to Pastor Jimmy yesterday. Pastor Jimmy. Pastor Jimmy. By the way, this is the joke at the church now, Pastor Jimmy and the Five Bryans. This is a... Pastor Jimmy and the Five. There's only four, but it makes it funnier to make it five. People like this a lot. No, he said the biggest people who support, the biggest donors of the church, he says, Half of them I don't even know their names, it's anonymous. The other half never ever talked to me about anything. He says the people...

2:08:41 who sometimes tithe, or not at all, they're the ones that complain the most about how the church should be run. Yeah. Hello? I know, but it's just, it's interesting that this is uniform across the board. The biggest donors, the biggest value for value supporters have no agenda. One line note, thank you, we love you, good night. Yeah. The lower you get... And they don't bitch and moan constantly. It doesn't matter, we love all of you and we thank you very much for your courage and for your support whether it's time, talent or treasure. And we will start it off with some of the time and talent that is brought to us in the form of artwork for our album art. By the way, all of the end of show mixes, we now actually post the end of show mixes in the actual credits so you can download them, do whatever you want since

2:09:32 There seems to be no no rush. It's very new for us There's no restrictions and we love it And of course you can go to get mo jams comm and listen to this slop 24 hours a day We have three songs an hour now the rest is end of show mix stuff, which is quite funny to listen to Thank You MVP he set up a website for it. We're still working out the the bugs Let me see if it's up actually get mo jams.com and what, what, ah. So I don't know, I may have a DNS thing here. Anyway, it should be working. If it's not working today, it will be working tomorrow. It's all filled with quotes by you. And it's end of show makes us jingles, but really we're moving towards full-time slop, all slop, all the time.

2:10:18 So the slop that we think here is the AI prompted slop and actually we both immediately kind of took to the artwork from Capitalist Agenda which is not a typical AI piece, nor is Capitalist Agenda necessarily an AI artist. This was choking the M5M chicken. for episode 1813 which we titled Lunchbox from Lunchbox AI. We both like this piece. It stood out. It really stood out as something different. which is how I imagine ones that the Hot 100, the Toe Tappin' 100 is all AI slop music. They'll be one of those things that just pops out. It's like, you know, whoa, okay, this is different, this is good. You know, everything, Capitalist Agenda, who is a good artist. He is. The fact that he, the thing that makes this work besides the choking of this chicken with M5M underneath him,

2:11:16 is the, which is a lewd reference, you know. Bring us back to the hottie that gave you the note. It's the eyeballs with the swirl in them, which really makes this work. Only an artist understands that. And only an artist, yeah, or someone who has some notion of how a cartoon should look would have that. I mean, the only other possibility was the eyeballs popping forward Boyoing, yeah. Boyoing type. That would work too, but this is just dynamite. Good piece. Beautiful piece. Had beautiful luminance in it, nice white background. Jeffrey Rhea, you need to either do something with your art or you need to get another language model. You are the orange man.

2:12:02 All your stuff is orange. No, what he needs to do is get a copy of Photoshop or some other system, drop the art in there and then brighten it up. Take the filter out the orange. I mean, we literally, we look at the page, it's like his signature. It's like everything he does is orange. It's all orange. It's got a film of orange over everything and I immediately hate it. Yeah, you're never gonna get picked. I mean, you'll get picked for the newsletter once in a while, which I think you got last time. But Adam will veto all your pieces because they're so orangey. Yes, and it's not that hard to fix. Like the methane cow. It's a beautiful piece, except it's orangey. Too orange. He's got another one, missing chocolate, orange. And then Nesworks came in. Nesworks is also a good artist, and he makes another

2:12:55 fundamental detrimental mistake on his sock hop art. Oh yeah, this was noticeable to me immediately. The people aren't wearing socks. The reason, let me go back to it just one more time, this is the last time I'm gonna bring it up. A sock hop was called a sock hop not because it was a cool name, it's because it was required that you wear socks, because they were having a dance on the gym floor of the school, of a basketball court usually. And in those days people didn't wear, they didn't wear Nikes. In the olden days of the sock hop, they wore

2:13:38 Bowling shoes. They didn't wear bowling shoes either. They wore leather sole shoes. Bowling shoes are actually kind of slippery. They would be okay. They wore leather sole shoes and when you dance on a basketball court, you ruin the court. It's scratched up. It's a mess. So you had to wear socks. So when you see somebody in a sock cup wearing shoes, it doesn't make sense because it never happened. Yeah. So, they throw you out. Disqualify, they throw you disqualified. Disqualified! I did kind of like Nessworks' boots, dancing on the M5M. By the way, I haven't heard from our boot guy. We gave him such a, like, such an alley-oop, like, come on man, let's make these no-agenda boots.

2:14:23 Just like PBB, PBD. The Blue Acorn had some boots too that I thought were nice. Yeah, but ultimately... And he had a chicken and the Blue Acorn had two chickens in the background which I thought added a lot. Yeah, but we'll have... once our boot guy gets back to us and we get some no agenda boots made in America... Made in America boots. That's our exit strategy, man. Where you at, Opie? Opie Shoes? Opie Boots? Come on, it's not called Opie Boots. I forget what it's called. Opie Boots. So it's Opie Shoes. Opie, hold on a second. Opie Shoes. Opie Way. Opieway.com. They do the sneakers, but then he has, he started a boot company. The sneakers are nice too. By the way, we could go for sneakers.

2:15:09 Opieway.com, they got some nice sneakers. High end. We could outdo Infotainment, Valuetainment. Well, he's Valuetainment Infotainment. That's a... It's a Bron Bloom. It's a Bron Bloom title. His are Italian. Yeah, so? Ours are American. Yeah, but the thing, the problem he has as opposed to the sneakers is that people don't wear shoes anymore. They wear sneakers. Yes. You would look at it when you watch TV, they're coming out with a suit on wearing sneakers. People, the number of people that wear Ferragamo's, which is an incredibly comfortable shoe or Gucci. Well, but have you looked at value, value, tame and shoes? They're basically sneaker leather patented sneakers. Oh, that's yes. Hello, 70s. Yeah. No, I think the OP ways that maybe that's better for us. We'll find out. We're playing by ear.

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2:26:08 Oh, AI. Okay, I have a, actually have a couple of AI clips myself, but they're archived, so you have to dig them up. Well, then let me get to the fresh ones. The fresh ones first. The AI bubble. Are we in a bubble? Are we in a bubble, bubble, bubble? What's going on with the bubble? We have the AI washing, which actually kind of comes down to these types of reports. This is, oh, I should have warned you. It's Amy Goodman incoming. Sorry, everybody. In labor news, several major U.S. companies have announced layoffs affecting tens of thousands of workers. Amazon said it'll eliminate about 14,000 corporate jobs.

2:26:46 With Reuters reporting that number could more than double as artificial intelligence tools increasingly replace white collar workers. Meanwhile, turn— Yeah, bullcrap. But we've already determined that to be bull crap. Right, so now I have some CNBC clips about this very issue. It's called AI washing. Between January and September 2025, there have been more than 946,000 job cuts announced, with roughly 300,000 from the government sector. That's the highest since 2020, and it's a 55% increase from what we saw last year through the same time period. It would make sense to think AI is to blame for the layoffs.

2:27:25 Now that we've had generative AI come in and kind of change the equation, investors and boards are asking management teams, how are you using AI? Why aren't you using AI? Can AI help you streamline costs? But the latest round of layoff announcements in the fall of 2025 suggest AI might not be the root cause of the restructuring. They also seem to be real signs that something new is happening, that we've turned a corner in the economy. So we've seen a wide range of reasons. You're not really seeing companies say, I am cutting 10,000 employees and replacing them with one single computer. Using AI and introducing it to save jobs turns out to be an enormously complicated and time-consuming exercise. I think there's still a perception that it's simple and easy and cheap to do, and it's really not. Yeah, this is what your NOA Agenda Show has been telling you for months.

2:28:16 And now it's all coming out in the AI wash. There's no doubt AI is a powerful force in the economy right now. The extent to which we think it's affecting the economy and hiring is in graduate level, low skilled jobs. We haven't been able to find yet much evidence that AI is capable at this moment of taking over sort of white collar middle management jobs. So why are we seeing so many layoffs and how much of it is because of AI? Wall Street has been hyping generative AI innovation for several years now, which is putting pressure on executives to make it a part of their business model. 79% of CEOs in the U.S. said they feared they could lose their jobs within two years if they didn't deliver measurable AI-driven business gains. Man, this is like, have we seen this movie before?

2:29:08 Like, oh, you gotta have AI, you gotta have a website, you gotta have this, you gotta have e-commerce, e-commerce. Do you guys have e-commerce yet? We have been through these things so many times. And eventually, something always turns out to be okay and usable. But this one is different. It's big. Investors need to be a little careful with what some people have called AI washing. And what that is, is this idea that because business is deteriorating or there's some difficulty going on with the business, you say, oh, we're letting people go because of AI. No, you're letting people go because the business is hurting and calling it AI and because Wall Street is buying anything with the letters A and I attached to it. And so what you might find is you would actually get a bump in your stock because you're letting people go because of AI. There's this kind of financial fiduciary incentive for management teams to say they're using AI and say that strategies are related to AI, even if it's not totally related to AI.

2:30:05 There's been surveys that have come out that found companies are attributing certain strategies and plans to AI, but it could be as simple as, you know, using AI to write an email for you, right? Is that really a revolutionary use of this technology? No. But can you say you're using it as part of your strategy? Technically, yes. Even Meta's decision to cut 600 workers in October 2025, they cut those workers for from their AI unit. And that's because the AI unit had gotten bloated. Exactly. I love this. But, you know, I know I've known lots of people who, oh yeah, I use AI at work to make my email better. And then, you know, I adjust it, of course. But I mean, how is that? How can that be improving productivity?

2:30:49 No, it's actually probably not. Well, I mentioned on the show before about two months ago that there was a study done internally that has not been publicly discussed. At a nondescript AI company, yes? No, at NVIDIA. Oh, NVIDIA. And they tried to find places where the AI was actually increasing productivity and they couldn't do it. It could be a bull crap story, so I can't say for sure, but it sounds right to me. And the fact that productivity is, if you write an email, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then send it to, right now from the point where you're finished the email to you sending it to AI to improve it, quote unquote. It could have been done. Right, it would have been shipped, so the productivity's going down, not up. By the way, you're making a big mistake here. You're pronouncing it Nvidia.

2:31:43 Yeah, no, it's not Nvidia according to Nora and President Trump, it's Nvidia. Nvidia? Listen. I know we're out of time, but just on that matter, we talk about that because I know how closely you follow the stock market. Do you worry about an AI bubble? I guess I worry about everything, you know, I mean, you know, I'm a worrier. I worry, but you know what I do? I worry and then I fix it. I fix it that way. I don't have to worry. It's a lot of money behind it. Well, there's a lot of money. And right now I'm taking advantage of it because we're leading AI. You know, we're leading it by a lot. China's in second place, but we're leading it by a lot. We have the greatest minds of any country anywhere in the world and we're using that. I'm using those great minds to help us now. Will something happen later? I guess, you know, something, but it could also be something very good happens.

2:32:34 And I hope it's gonna be very good, but if it's not so good, we're protected. I think this is the wrong clip. This is the Nvidia clip. It sounds like it's the wrong clip. Will you allow the chip maker Nvidia to sell their most- NVIDIA! NVIDIA! No video. No video. Will you allow the chip maker Nvidia to sell their most advanced chips to China? No, we won't do that. It's not on the table at all. We will let them deal with Nvidia. Nvidia is the prime media. Nvidia. Nvidia. Anyway, let's ask Bill Gates if there's a bubble because if anybody knows it will be Bill. I also asked him if he is worried about whether we are in an AI bubble. Here's what he had to say.

2:33:16 We need to define bubble. If what we mean is like tulips in the Netherlands, that they went to look back and said, what the heck, there was nothing there. Those were just tulips. No, that's not where we are. If you mean it's like the internet bubble, where in the end, something very profound happened. The world was very different. Some companies succeeded, but a lot of the companies were kind of me too, fell behind. burning capital companies, absolutely there are a ton of these investments that will be dead ends. What do you think John? What do you think? Bill's right. Yeah but what do you think will be the

2:34:03 What will the killer app be? Is it gonna be porn? Is it gonna be... Oh, the killer app? There's no... The killer app is already... It's ChatGPT. It's already here. But what is so killer about it? What is the... People are using it instead of search engines. Okay, so that's going... So... That's a big deal. I mean, one of the only things a lot of people only do on the internet is do searches. I mean, Google and the rest of them. Yeah. Duck, duck, go. So just Grok and ChatGPT, which is more or less the same. I think Grok delivers better results personally, but that's just me. Have you put Grok into expert mode and then done a search? This actually I think is interesting because it will go out and it will scan through 10, 20, 30, 60, I've seen 90 web pages

2:34:53 And something that I could do myself, but it does it faster than I could do this. You'll do it a lot faster than you will. Yeah, it still takes several minutes to come back with an answer. But yeah, and I just like, I'm not paying for this. How can this happen? Yeah, well, there's your, there's the, yeah, therein lies the rub. And this is exactly what came up with, in a conversation that OpenAI investor Brad Gersner had on a Zoom call with Sam Altman and funny enough such an Adele was also on the calls a three-way and Here's Brad's question and Sam's answer quite arrogant You know, how can the company with 13 billion in revenues make 1.4 trillion of spend commitments, you know?

2:35:41 You know, and you've heard the criticism, Sam. I think there's a lot of people who would love to buy OpenAI shares. I don't think you want to sell that. Including myself. Including myself. People who talk with a lot of breathless concern about our compute stuff or whatever, that would be thrilled to buy shares. So I think we could sell your shares or anybody else's to some of the people who are making the most noise on Twitter or whatever about this very quickly. We do plan for revenue to grow steeply. Revenue is growing steeply. We are taking a forward bet that it's going to continue to grow.

2:36:21 not only will Chattopadhyay keep growing, but we will be able to become one of the important AI clouds that our consumer device business will be a significant and important thing that AI that can automate science will create huge value. There are not many times that I want to be a public company, but one of the rare times it's appealing is when those people are writing these ridiculous open AIs about to go out of business and whatever. I would love to tell them they could just short the stock and I would love to see them get burned on that. But we carefully plan, we understand where the technology, where the capability is going

2:37:02 grow, go and how the products we can build around that and the revenue we can generate. We might screw it up. Like this is the bet that we're making and we're taking a risk along with that. So, um, that is the most arrogant response. Oh, or if you want me to buy your stock or you want to buy stock. Exactly. I can find someone who wants to buy your shares. What's interesting is Altman has an amazing tell. He really believes what he's saying because when he answers a question, these questions, you know how in NLP, neuro-linguistic programming, if someone looks to the right and up, they're lying. If they look to the left and up. Yeah, there's a bunch of these different theories. I mean, he looks up to the left, which means he's visualizing. He's visualizing his PowerPoint presentation, his deck.

2:37:52 He looks up, it's almost like he's looking at the light bulb on the ceiling. And the guy goes all the way up. We're going to have a lot more revenue. And he said something interesting, which I was kind of overlooked. He said, our consumer devices. I only heard that in the second run through as I had already clipped this. His consumer devices. What consumer devices would they be coming out with? That could be interesting. I think maybe that maybe gave something away unless he thinks that just the website's a consumer device, which is nobody else would define it that way. And regarding shorting, Michael Burry, the guy from the big short, he has put a $1.1 billion short on Nvidia and Palantir. And Palantir actually, everything crashed a little bit, not a crash, but 8% down.

2:38:46 Yeah, we talked about that on the DHM Plug Show which runs every Tuesday. Yes. People should download it. It starts at 8 o'clock Central, 9 Eastern. It's live. It's on the stream. It's Andrew Horowitz who is a money manager and a fine human being. One of my friends. I love him. Love him very, very much. His services are beyond compare. He's fantastic. And columnist John C. Dvorak. Let's join Andrew and John now. Yeah. Good. Yeah. So what was the challenge here? He's got a P ratio of 200. A 100 P ratio is like hot stock. So there's 200. The stock should be half the price. It is the way I see it. Horowitz did not agree with me. I mean, he did agree with me that the prices of the stock is ridiculous. Yeah.

2:39:39 Because people don't understand what earnings per share, I'm sorry, PE ratio, the ratio of the price to earnings ratio, what it usually indicates, the number, the number usually indicates the yearly rate of growth. That's what it's supposed to reflect. So if you have a PE ratio of 30, that means the company's gonna grow by 30% a year, hopefully, it's just a guess. And so if you have a 200%, or a 200 PE ratio, the stock is supposed to be growing at 200% a year. No, if it grows 100% a year, that's doubling. So, come on, give me a break. So, you look at these PE ratios and you try to determine if they're sensible. We both like Palantir, by the way. I think it's, we both think it's a good investment, but not at these prices. Not financial advice. Not, and we don't give financial advice.

2:40:36 What else? So any... That's it. That's all I got. No predictions on a crash or anything that's, I mean, this can't... I don't see a crash until the first... Actually, I don't see personally, and this is just because I have these 20 and 40 year cycle things that I like to play with. The last crash was in 2008 and 2009 era. So the 2028, 29, it has to be after Trump's out. So it'll be in and you could push it off a little bit. So you have a cry I I foresee the following Trump's presidency reflects that of Reagan's and in his vice president George Walker Bush became vice president and then he had a small blip in the economy just before the election that Clinton won and that I think will be the same sort of thing because Vance will get in there probably with Rubio as his vice president which would be my guess

2:41:33 I would say the other way around. I think Rubio with Vance is nice. Rubio would like to see it the other way around, but I don't think that's what's going to happen. Because Rubio can still become president. You'd have two Vances and then Rubio could take over. So you'd have the long stream. It wouldn't work out the other way. So, you end up with...but it's not gonna matter because what's gonna happen in the 28 to 30 era, you're gonna have another crash enough so that it's gonna shake the Democrat Party and you're gonna end up with Democrats in again...or the Republican Party and the Democrats will get in, in 2032. Well, hopefully we're dead then. But we won't be dead.

2:42:14 That far from now. I'm gonna see that. We'll still be spitting in the mic, baby. Four more years! Four more years! I gotta wash my... Never mind. Yeah, your... What is it called? The thing you have in front of the mic? The windscreen? Windscreen! I have to wash my windscreen. Pop filter? Pop filter. That's it. I use one. Let's do a... I have two clips here to commemorate the passing of former Vice President Dick Cheney, the man who had his heart in a bag for the past 10 years.

2:42:54 There were some things that... Remember when he had the mechanical heart they had to take out? Yeah, yeah. Because there was no rhythm. If you have a mechanical heart and it's just pumping blood continuously, you can't keep track of time, you can't do anything. There's a lot of things with Jake Cheney. The CBC did... I'm surprised there wasn't more. I thought we would have had more obits. Did they not have... Did they think that Cheney would just live forever? They didn't have anything pre-produced on the plank? Everybody hated this guy. Pretty much. Trump didn't even acknowledge that I know that he died because, you know, he ended up voting for Kamala. The guy was a terrible person. Let's listen to the CBC obit. Trust the Canadians to do it for us. So help me God. Congratulations.

2:43:42 By the time he was sworn in as U.S. Vice President to George W. Bush in 2001, Dick Cheney had already been a long-standing force in Washington. I picked him because he's strong, he's steady and he gets the job done. A White House staffer under Richard Nixon, chief of staff to Gerald Ford, 10 years a lawmaker on Capitol Hill and Secretary of Defense to George H.W. Bush. It was as vice president that Cheney became as divisive as he was consequential. The enemy has shown a capacity to inflict great damage on the United States and we have to assume there will be more attacks.

2:44:21 After 9-11, Cheney cemented the widely held view it was his hand that guided the Bush presidency. Dick Cheney's legacy is fundamentally complicated. Garrett Martin, professor at American University School of International Service, says Cheney will be forever seen as promoting the most controversial US policies of those years, including pushing the false notion Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Enhanced interrogations or torture essentially, the Patriot Act or surveillance also, domestic spying on Americans, and of course his most hawkish line on the war in Iraq and being largely unapologetic about it. What we did in Iraq was exactly the right thing to do. If I had it to recommend all over again, I would recommend exactly the right same course of action.

2:45:11 And then there was my favorite about Dick Cheney. In 2006, Cheney accidentally shot a friend while quail hunting. Though another Cheney friend described it as a peppering. Late night comedians had a field day. Peppering is what you do to a Caesar salad. He shot that dude. George W. Bush today called Cheney a decent, honorable man. His death, a loss to the nation. But the current president is a big-time Cheney critic. As a Republican lawmaker, Cheney's daughter Liz supported Donald Trump's impeachment. Here's Trump in 2022. The Cheneys are diehard globalists and warmongers who have been plunging us into new conflicts for decades. Just last year, Dick Cheney took on Trump directly with a campaign ad for daughter Liz. There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic

2:46:09 than Donald Trump. I didn't see it, so I don't know how funny it was, but yes. It was... We didn't have memes back then. Can you imagine? Oh, man. He's like, oh, sorry, man, I shot you in the face. No, I just peppered. It's okay. And who was the guy who got shot? And he was like, oh, it's okay. It was just a peppering. It was not a big deal. His face was full of buckshot. No, it wasn't buckshot. It was birdshot. Birdshot. Okay. Anyway. Big difference.

2:46:56 He's gone. He's gone. Ding dong. He's gone. I wonder. I wonder if he's meeting Jesus right now. I have my doubts. I doubt it. I have my doubts. So a couple of light clips. Let's go with these TikToks. I got a couple here. All right, this will be it because we got to get out of here, man. It's way too much content. Okay, this will be the end of it then. Okay, which one? Well, just one of them. If I'm going to pick one, I think we'll go with the non-binary girl. All right, non-binary girl, you're up! Two things to know. I'm non-binary. I go by they, them. And I work in a store that is pretty much all women. So whenever they're like addressing us or when they're talking, they're always like, hey, ladies. So I've taken it upon myself as someone that is non-binary to use this to not listen. And whenever anyone addresses a group as ladies,

2:47:48 I am not included. So when they say, hey ladies, let's like stop talking or hey ladies, let's like get to work. I will do none of it because you're not talking to me. You're not talking to me. You're not talking to me. So I will not listen to anything that is said when it is started with, hey ladies, I'm a lady, not a lady, a lady. Oh, they D. Oh goodness gracious. Did you share this with Chanel? Theydy, no, not yet. I can't wait for your next hit. But there's definitely a point of information, the new term they. I never heard this before, theydy. Okay, theydy. Oh, theydy! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda.

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2:55:23 In hoppy endings, Raleigh, North Carolina. So many meetups there, they never send a meetup report, which is a little bit disappointing. Please send one. On Saturday, the Treasure Valley Boise 330 at Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho. Also on Saturday, Holy Hobos and... Holy Hobos and Pretty People Part 2, 5 o'clock at Post Brewing in Fort Collins, Colorado. And the rest of this month we have Oklahoma, Collierville, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, big one on the 15th of November in Albany, California. John will be there. Central Ohio, Zurich, Switzerland, Charlotte, North Carolina, Wilmington, California, Burlington, Kentucky, Spokane, Washington, Wageningen in the Netherlands. Many, many meetups that are taking place around the globe. Don't miss out. Become a part of the movement. We're not just a podcast. We're a movement. You know who always says that? No. Glenn Beck. Who always says that? Glenn Beck.

2:56:21 This is not just a podcast, it's a movement. So join in the movement. Go to noagendameetups.com. You can't find one of you, start one yourself. It's always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. And before we get to the end part of this party, which is a real party with a whole bunch of AI slop end of show isos, end of show mixes, we actually try and select an iso that we'll play at the very, very end of the show.

2:57:06 You once again only have one, which means you're very confident. It's like Sam Altman confidence you're showing us here with the, I just have one ISO, I know be the winner anyway. So, no, I never said I'd know it. I gave up. I had one the other day that that Alex Jones beat. That's true. And I don't have any Alex Jones today, otherwise I would win again. Ah, I've got a chance. Well, let's listen to mine. Here we go. Seems like it's making a lot of people gay too. Okay. Can't beat that one. Here's another one. We did such a good job! Not too bad. And then this one. It seems magical. Okay. Those are my three entrants. Okay, I have one.

2:57:48 Okay, here we go. I double-dog dare you to find a better show than this. I don't know. Seems like it's making a lot of people gay too. I mean that's... No, we're not using that. It's John's AI Iso and here's his tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. So since we're approaching the holiday season, I thought I would maybe it's a good idea to promote booze a little more. Yes, booze is always good. And people love these tips on alcohol. The bunch of winos are people. Well, this is not wine, but this is a product and I have a story. This is a product with a story. So we were in South Africa back just before Mandela got in.

2:58:38 And who's we? The family. Oh, the whole family? Yeah, the whole family. Wow. I was invited to give a... by a very important group down there to bring... to talk about stuff. Spook, spook, spook. And VIPs. Spook work. It could have been. But so, you know, we were there for a week. And so, you know, going to a lot of bars and restaurants. And then I ran into this product there. Very well presented. It's stunner and it never had they did not bring it into the United States till probably five or six years later And I was stunned when I saw it here because it's one of the tastiest You know familiar with these with Irish cream and some of these these these cream liquors. Mm-hmm

2:59:24 Well, they're delicious. Yeah, but although they're not nearly as good as the South African product, which everybody does everywhere in the country, it's called Amarula. A-M-A-R-U-L-A. It's got a big elephant on the label. And it's a cream liqueur made with some screwball citrus fruit from Africa. And it's just one of the most stunning products you can ever just have a little glass of. It's delicious. And do you think I can pick this up at HEB? Yeah. Definitely a liquor store in your neck of the woods would have it. Somebody would have it. I'd be shocked if you can't find it.

3:00:07 Because it's everywhere because I just have two more bottles of my Robert The Mondavi yes, yes, it's still the bottom shelf last There's one I left one bottle for that one Noah gender listener in Fredericksburg who wants to go get it and that'll be it so am a Rulo Yeah, it's amarula. A-M-A-R-U-L-A. And is it like a nutty taste? No, no, it's a citrusy taste. But it's got an aftertaste and acidity, everything. This is unbelievably tasty. We cannot wait to taste it. We're all rushing off to our local liquor store. Find all of John's tips at tipoftheday.net.

3:00:49 Created fast for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti. But before you go, we've got some end of show mixes. We got, uh, man, we got a lot here. Danny Lewis, Bonnells, Crabtree, MVP. We got tons, tons of AI slop. Find it all at Gitmo Jams. Gitmojams.com if it works. Hey, coming up next on your modern podcast app, noagendastream.com, That Larry Show! And I guess he's mad about Mamdani, the title of this show is The Big Rotten Commie Apple. That's Larry for you. That's Larry for you. And we of course will return on Sunday to bring you another several hours worth of media deconstruction. There's always something going on in your world.

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