Episode 1796 · Thursday, 4 September 2025

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A high-stakes Senate hearing on the future of the HHS clashes with new warnings of lethal viruses and a bipartisan push to unseal the Epstein files.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1796

About this episode

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. faced a contentious Senate Finance Committee hearing where Senator Ron Wyden and Senator Elizabeth Warren challenged his 2026 health agenda. The testimony centered on the ousting of CDC Director Dr. Susan Menendez and allegations regarding the Office of Refugee Resettlement, while Kennedy countered with plans to shift HHS focus toward chronic disease and ultra-processed foods. Over 1,000 HHS employees have reportedly signed a letter demanding Kennedy’s resignation as the administration pivots away from federal mRNA research grants.

Dr. Michael Osterholm warned of a lethal new virus discovered in Chinese bats during a CBS Mornings appearance to promote his book, The Big One. Simultaneously, the West Coast Health Alliance formed between Washington, Oregon, and California to issue independent vaccine guidance, bypassing the CDC. In Florida, Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo and Governor Ron DeSantis announced a total ban on state vaccine mandates for schools and daycares. Meanwhile, Donald Trump demanded Pfizer release all internal data on the success of Operation Warp Speed, and Congressmen Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna launched a bipartisan petition to force the release of the Department of Justice files on Jeffrey Epstein.

John C. Dvorak recommends the Max Flat Clinch Stapler for those still handling physical dossiers in an increasingly digital world. Adam Curry celebrates his 61st birthday with a wave of peerage elevations and the official title of Secretary General of Podcasting. The show deconstructs a hot mic moment between Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin that reveals a surprising shared interest in biotechnology and anti-aging peptides.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Senate Finance Committee Hearing

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. testified before the Senate Committee on Finance regarding the 2026 health care agenda. During the hearing, Senator Elizabeth Warren criticized Kennedy for the ousting of CDC Director Dr. Susan Menendez, while Kennedy alleged Warren had previously voted against Menendez's confirmation. Over 1,000 HHS employees have reportedly signed a letter calling for Kennedy's resignation, citing risks to public health.

robert f. kennedy jr.· senate finance committee· elizabeth warren· big pharma· susan menendez

00:00 The older you get, the harder you are to kill. Celebrating the summer of psychosis and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're watching to corrupt US Senate grill Senator Kennedy. It was hard to take my eyes off it this morning. I said Senator Kennedy, that was a mistake. Yeah that's okay but it was hard... Bobby Kennedy! It was hard to take my eyes off and it was so good! RFK Jr., I made a mistake again. Okay yeah, that guy! That guy who talked like that! It was amazing. I got-I was able to pull a couple clips Did you see the Warren stuff? No no no I didn't. I started with Wyden

01:00 No. See, I came in later and I caught Warren and Bernie... And Warren she's the worst! He calls her off for collecting 800 thousand in cash from the farm. And as soon as she's done grilling him basically just yelling at him yeah she gets up and leaves oh really? Oh I mean again it's like These things happen on a show day and you can only do so much. Yeah, but I did get some of it which was just outstanding but this is all... This is big pharma they were ready and man do they control a lot of people holy moly! And they're very identifiable Yes, very identifiable But it kind of started earlier in this week we had to start ramping everybody up because

01:55 Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he hates children, he wants them to die He's anti-vax, he's anti health, he's just gonna ruin your life every which way and of course the poor director of the CDC you know she didn't rubber stamp everything he wanted about his vaccine policies so she got fired... By the way Just by behaviour I guess You have a flow going sorry me interrupting but with Warren, she chewed him out for firing her and he said something I didn't hear before. He said that

02:34 He'd, after she was in for a couple weeks he simply asked her because she wasn't going along with anything. He said can I trust you and she said no Wow! No i hadn't heard that And then Warren says she said no you can't trust me and then Kennedy comes back says no she didn't say that she just said no Wow. And then she jumps all over him for this, you calling her a liar? She didn't tell us that and he says yeah she's a liar and he didn't say that quite but then he said the funny thing about you Senator is that you're the one that voted against her thought she was no good to begin with now what are you defending her for? Oh she's a piece of work

03:20 So yeah, so back to the flow. Because this was all a setup we knew that everyone knew the big pharma is I mean man they run television they really do it's amazing they run so many representatives and i'm not saying that these people don't actually believe what their favorite lobbyist tells them No, but I think in most cases they don't. So we had to start off with a revolt from inside! More than 1,000 current and former employees of the U.S Department of Health and Human Services are calling for the resignation of Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., in a letter sent to Kennedy and Congress, they say the secretary's leadership has quote put the health of all Americans at risk as follows the Trump administration's ousting have recently confirmed CDC director Dr. Susan Menendez

04:10 Kennedy is scheduled to testify before the Senate Committee on Finance tomorrow morning. The hearing is focused on the president's 2026 health care agenda Okay, so we had to ramp it up We had to get ready for everything So we got to bring out some people on the morning shows this is all before today? We gotta get it all set up now if you really want to scare people and you want someone of great authority To come on your CBS morning show Who would you invite Well, Hotez wouldn't do the trick. No no he's a slob Who would you do to scare somebody? Who did it last time? Who started the scare last time? Like before COVID Who? Who yes! Hu Yuen Lang exactly You got it right No Osterholm

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Michael Osterholm, The Big One Pandemic Warning

Dr. Michael Osterholm appeared on CBS Mornings to promote his new book, "The Big One: How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics." Osterholm warned of a potential "combo" virus that is as infectious as COVID-19 but as lethal as MERS or SARS, which he claims has been discovered in bats in China within the last year. The timing of the book release and media appearance is noted as coinciding with the RFK Jr. Senate hearings.

michael osterholm· cbs mornings· the big one· coronavirus· bats

05:00 Oh that guy. That's the last name that comes to mind when you start asking me questions like this He is the guy who went on Rogan Yeah he was a horrible person Just before I went on Rogan, he was on one day before The much repeated Rogan story Yes! This is a good one I met him in the hallway and I went huh that guys creepy So wouldn't ya know it? He has a book out Coincidentally What book Well don't worry its coming And they also have a new name for him. Renowned disease detective, Dr Michael Ostrom What? I knew it! I knew i'd get ya! Renowned disease detective... That's right.

05:43 When did that happen? When did he become a renowned disease detective. Does he go to Africa with a magnifying glass and look for disease, what is he doing here? As of yesterday, he is the renowned disease detective. Renowned disease detective Dr Michael Osterholm has... What network is this? CBS. This guy sounds like CBS. CBS mornings baby! And by the way completely scripted they were reading off their especially the black guy what's his name They got a young, handsome black guy in there. Yeah he's good looking guy. And he's... right we can say that the homo it was a good-looking guy. He is a good looking guy but I mean shoot man i used to do this

06:31 You know, you look at the paper and the question is scripted. And you just kind of ask your way through it and try to make it your own but its so obvious. You'll hear when we get there. At the forefront of countering some of the biggest global health threats from COVID-19 and measles to SARS and swine flu and now he has a fresh book with a fresh warning The book is called The Big One How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics It's THE BIG ONE! Wait...it's Ulster-Holm imagines a coronavirus like virus emerging. This time though, more deadly, more contagious. Dr Michael Ulster-Holm joins us now. Doctor thank you very much for being here. We've interviewed you on Zoom and stuff throughout the pandemic never seen in person so welcome

07:20 This is a scary book because it imagines a very... John, it's just scary book. I need to read this book and I need to be scared! It's a scary book because it imagines a very scary scenario in which a lot of people get sick and die How likely is that scenario? Well what could the answer be how likely? It's gotta be very likely. I think highly likely It's very likely. For example, one of the premises of this scenario is that the virus which is a coronavirus like COVID was actually as infectious as SARS-CoV2 or COVID was which was highly infectious but it didn't have the ability to kill like Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome or MERS or SARS did That was a virus that killed 15% to 35% of people but wasn't very infectious

08:04 This virus is a combination of the two highly infectious. It's very interesting what he says here before we got to the combination He said MERS was very lethal But, you know it killed 35% of the people and that makes it sound like wow! 35 percent of all people in the Middle East died of this virus but It's not very infectious so was probably a low number. Do you remember what the MERS death count was? No I do not remember what the MERS death count was. It wasn't that high. No, it wasn't high. But anyway we can tell...

08:40 Yeah, but just so you know. But so was COVID-19 when it first came out they were throwing around these same numbers. Well now it's even better! But since these things were designed in the lab... If you recall back in the day when we first started discussing this and we got onto it early because of the French guy, the Nobel Prize winning A French guy who everyone considers a crackpot said that he saw... He must be dead by now. Isn't he dead? Where is he? No, I doubt it! And he's gone. He's dead to the public. Dead to the public yes. So he said that is obviously lab creation and it will devolve rather quickly because they always do into its original form which was like you know more or less a common cold

09:20 and it started devolving right away. And so once that you saw, saw that these other things, you know everything is just a so scripted. It's almost... Oh yeah well now the script calls for a combo? A combo! of very deadly, very contagious. And you'll never guess how this combo happened where this took place it's baffling. Sir SARS did that was a virus that killed 15 to 35 percent of the people but was not very infectious This virus is a combination of the two highly infectious and can kill By the way he's talking in the present tense

10:01 So a minute ago it was, well it's highly likely this happens and now he is saying this virus. Does he already have the virus? Does he know about the virus? Yes sir, yes, it has probably been developed He has already gotten his... He got a vial in his pocket His sample kit This virus is a combination of the two, highly infectious and can kill. And we've actually now discovered these very viruses in bats in China in the caves just from the last 6 to 12 months So the possibility that this happening is not some remote maybe it's there's a real likelihood It could happen so just so you know That's already here. It's in the bats in China in the caves because our disease detective has probably gone there

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

mRNA Vaccine Funding, Public Health System Debate

A debate regarding the future of public health infrastructure centers on the Trump administration's reported decision to stop funding certain mRNA vaccine technology grants. Critics argue the public health system is being destroyed by a move toward "magic smoke and mirrors," while others contend that profitable corporations like Pfizer and Moderna should fund their own research rather than relying on government subsidies.

mrna· pfizer· moderna· public health· grants

10:44 But it's crazy. Can we kill the bats? Will the bats die? What about the bats? I didn't realize he was a disease detective, can he tell us are they going to ask him where SARS COVID or word COVID-19 what animal they actually found it in because at some point had to be coming from an animal according to him so that did his detective work just define fight wasn't a pangolin after all or wasn't a bat The wet market. It's the bats! What was the animal they were... what was it? Did they find it in the wild? Did we kill the bats?! Bats ironically carry a number of infectious diseases that don't kill them. Everything from rabies to you name it and but so that's not a good indication the indication is when these people start dying But when we find oh, so it hasn't made the jump It hasn't made the bats yet. It has made the jump yet Oh, it hasn't made the jump yet like it did last time like the jump it made made the jump at The wet market from the Bat to the people who ate the bats it hasn't made the jump yet remember your history?

11:43 Today, in this world of 8 billion people interacting so closely together on planes flying around the world taking down jungles all these kinds of things that interact... Taking what? Taking down jungles. Is that what he said? Yes, he said taking down jungles. I'm not sure... What does taking down jungles refer to? I think it means they're going into the jungle and on safari or something you know rich white women love to go on safari taking down jungles Taking down jungles all these kinds of things The interaction is so high that its really gives the virus an advantage The virus

12:20 Nil love one, love ten for virus. Virus love 10 people love This book is so coincidental So what needs fixing the most to prepare us for what you call the big one? Well You know when a big one wrote this book with my co-author Mark Olshaker I had no idea we'd be in the place We are today in this country No idea! We had no idea I wrote this book And it just happens to come out now while Kennedy's about to get grilled. I had no idea, it is completely coincidental. Spoke with my co-author Mark Olshaker and had no idea we'd be in the place where are today in this country. We're in free fall. Free fall? Basically... What?! We're in free fall!

13:04 At this point, we have a public health system that's being destroyed overnight. And it's one that... Okay so you see? This is why he's here He's here to discredit RFK Jr., this was a 10 minute interview I only got three clips It's so coincidental that i have to come here and talk about my book as the diseased doctor One day before- No, the disease detective! I'm sorry, disease, he's the diseased detective They come one day before the hearing, it's just a coincidence. I had no idea that this book The Big One would... It is all coming true and i'm in fact the prophet And we're free fall don't forget that We are in free fall! This health care system is being destroyed before our very eyes Just before The Big One, before it jumps from bats to people Basically What do you mean by that?

13:54 At this point, we have a public health system that's being destroyed overnight. Overnight! And it's one that rather than believing in science and all that is accomplished over the last hundreds of years We're now talking about magic smoke and mirrors Magic smoke and mirrors? Who's talking about magic smoke and RFK jr. He's nothing more than what's an example? Oh, please why are you asking these questions when you know they will never be asked nor answered and inability to deal with things now also impacts our ability to plan for the future for example the vaccines that we need for future pandemics were just

14:33 basically taken off the shelf by this corporation. What? No, no! Basically they were taken off the shelf basically...no No this is propagating the lie of access This is absolutely not true Which is largely what Elizabeth Warren got into Yeah but this is all about Pfizer and Moderna That's all that this is about And BioNTech and whoever else in this game It's all about Myrna mRNA That's the whole Forget Anything that RFK Jr. is doing, this is all about mRNA vaccine because this was the plan I totally agree This is the thing, this our platform It's 3.0 technology We don't need eggs They're defending it like maniacs Correct We're just basically taken off the shelf by this administration and said we are not going to fund the mRNA vaccine technology anymore Things that have no basis Hold on Another lie

15:31 We're not going to fund the mRNA technology anymore. No, there was 50 grants I think that are no longer being funded but... They can fund it then why doesn't Pfizer fund it? Why doesn't Moderna fund it? Everyone's making all the money! Yes this is correct. Never mind why did I even say that because I know that CBS journalists are going to ask that exact question By this administration, they said we're not going to fund the mRNA vaccine technology anymore. Things that have no basis in terms of science at least and so I'm very worried that we're not prepared for today let alone for tomorrow We are not prepared for tomorrow when the big one comes!

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Senator Ron Wyden, Office of Refugee Resettlement Allegations

Senator Ron Wyden accused Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of overseeing the "disappearance" of hundreds of children from Office of Refugee Resettlement facilities. Wyden alleged that children were rounded up at night and flown to Guatemala against their will. The exchange included references to Kennedy's past flights on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet as a counter-argument to his claims of being a protector of children.

ron wyden· office of refugee resettlement· guatemala· jeffrey epstein· human trafficking

16:09 So, this I mean NPR was in on this game everybody but it's it is only about the COVID vaccine at this point. This is the one point they've got they're gonna stick to it let's go to...I got a couple clips from The Hearing from this morning and I literally sat down threw on the live stream hit record and I got the opening of Senator Wyden And wow, I mean just wow. Instead of finding ways to help American families pay less for healthcare Robert Kennedy is focused on his anti-vaccine mission fueled by some kind of complex that the consequences be damned! Amid this litany of corruption and chaos the one point i have to underline is Robert Kennedy puts children in harm's way every single day in America

17:00 Think of the children! My Republican colleagues, I must ask what line with Robert Kennedy cross before some of you will also join this alarm? This weekend under the cover of darkness Robert Kennedy attempted to disappear. Under the cover... Under the cover of darkness Robert F. Kennedy Jr was walking around dark clothing in a catsuit. Under the cover of darkness I'm gonna take care this right now This weekend under cover of darkness, Robert Kennedy attempted to disappear hundreds of children under his care at Office of Refugee Resettlement. He tried he tried to disappear children this guy is horrible! These children here without parents or family were rounded up in the middle of the night and put on planes to Guatemala lawyers on the ground described unthinkable things. All Kennedy? Yeah wait because he's gonna... This is ridiculous that's what so great about it because

17:57 I mean, come on. We all know if you really want to get to an American's heart... You gotta go for pets, you gotta go for old people... Gays? That helps and... Oh! Won't somebody please think of the children?! Gotta think of the children man This weekend under the cover of darkness Robert Kennedy attempted to disappear hundreds of children under his care at Office of Refugee Resettlement Facilities. These children here without parents or family were rounded up in the middle of night and put on planes to Guatemala, lawyers on the ground described- Who their parents were! Well no listen he just listened he'll explain it because this was a real conversation man! Thinkable scenes

18:43 Our staff, some who are here today were party to this in the middle of the night and one child said to their lawyer why do they want to send me back? My mom is dead and my dad abuses me. Why do they want to hurt me? This was an actual conversation I think i need some audio tape recording with this actual conversation but I like it These actions were illegal documents show that many these children were in the country What...this is not enough come on Wyden hold on a second Listen, Wyden you gotta step it up a little bit on RFK Jr. being dangerous for children Can you do that for me please? To escape trafficking in their homeland Do better Mr Kennedy calls himself a protector of children Some kind of rich claim Claiming from somebody who's flown on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet On multiple occasions Excellent! Well done Bring in Epstein Perfect Because obviously

19:39 RFK is a kiddie fiddler. That's obvious, it's so obvious! It's so obvious. Well then why does he want to ship the kids out of the country? That makes no sense. There was an ill logic involved. Yes right wouldn't you want to keep him for himself under the cover of darkness in his basement? Yeah yeah keep him at the house. Keep them at the house yes thank you for that fallacy in Senator Wyden's logic So now I will play an edited version of RFK Jr.'s opening statement. What I edited out is Medea Benjamin jumping up and down, screaming about something which no one heard

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

HHS Chronic Disease Strategy, CDC Reform Plans

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. outlined an HHS shift from "sick care" to a "healthcare system" focusing on the root causes of chronic disease, including ultra-processed foods and fluoride in drinking water. He announced plans to end gain-of-function research and reduce animal testing. Kennedy also defended the removal of CDC officials, citing the agency's "nonsensical" policies during the COVID-19 pandemic.

hhs· chronic disease· fluoride· gain-of-function· cdc

20:24 I mean, she is so for hire that lady. We should just hire her to jump up in some hearing and go, Noah Jetten is the best podcaster in the universe! You all know it people! I'm telling you...I wonder how much it costs to get that done? Probably not as much as you think. Let me start with the big picture under President Trump's leadership We at HHS are enacting a once in a generation shift from a sick care system to a true healthcare System that tackles the root causes of chronic disease Chronic diseases reach crisis proportions our country and finally we have an administration That is taking action

21:06 The Maha Report assessment which the White House released in May was the first government analysis of the key drivers of childhood chronic disease. ultra-processed foods, chemical exposures physical inactivity and over medicalization. Whoa whoa whoa we don't say these words in Congress sir! This month we will follow with the Maha report strategy the Trump administration's solution for addressing each cause at HHS we haven't just been writing reports We've been the busiest, most proactive administration in HHS history. In just half a year we've taken on food ties, baby formula contamination, the grass loophole, fluoride in our drinking water... Yeah and this is shh... Bobby stop! Gas station heroin, electronic cigarettes drug prices prior authorization information blocking

22:08 and healthcare interoperability. We're ending gain-of-function research, child mutilation and reducing animal testing. But what about COVID man? We are addressing cell phone use in schools excessive screen time for youth the lack of nutrition education in our medical schools sickle cell anemia hepatitis C the East Palestine chemical spill and many many others At FDA we are now on track to approve more drugs this year than at any time in history. Nah, that's not going to work man you gotta approve our new platform our new technology You with your drugs I'm also proud to say that HHS under President Trump is doing more with less

22:55 We have taken measures to fight waste, fraud and abuse. Just by eliminating duplicative enrollments in CMS we are saving taxpayers $14 billion a year. Come on man! That's...we send that to Israel in two years? That's nothing Meanwhile we're expanding access for people who need it We're ending racist diversity, equity and inclusion practices. And instead focusing on aiding low-income and vulnerable families regardless of their race which was the original intent of Title 10. We're also pouring $1 billion into Head Start and the administration for children and families

23:38 Compassion need not be the casualty of efficiency. Our bottom dollar on it, we need to go there. But let's talk about COVID for a second. This CDC shakeout appears to have had a lot to do with COVID. Finally I would like to address the recent shakeups at CDC These changes were absolutely necessary adjustments to restore the agency to its role as the world's gold standard public health agency with a central mission of protecting Americans from infectious disease. CDC failed that responsibility miserably during COVID when its disastrous nonsensical policies destroyed small businesses, violated civil liberties closed our schools

24:33 caused generational damage in doing so, massed infants with no science and heightened economic inequality. And yet all those oppressive and unscientific interventions failed to do anything about the disease itself America is home to 4.2% of the world's population Yet we had nearly 20 percent of COVID deaths We literally did worse than any country in the world. We're number one, once again! And the people at CDC who oversaw that process who put masks on our children and closed our schools are the people who will be leaving

25:13 And that's why we need bold, competent and creative new leadership at CDC. People are able and willing to chart a new course As my father once said progress is nice word but change is its motivator and change has it's enemies That's why we need new blood at CDC That's also why it's imperative that we remove officials with conflicts of interest and catastrophically bad judgment and political agendas We need unbiased, politics-free transparent evidence based science in the public interest. Those are guiding principles behind the changes at the CDC and that is what you can expect

25:56 all across our agency for the next three years. Now I guarantee you not a word of that will be in any news report today, not a single word of any of that will be in any report You will only get the outraged clips of Warren and other people yelling and screaming And one more because I just hit record this was just the first 15 minutes like I can't wait to watch this whole thing This this is wait to see some of the stuff. Oh, but that's what I mean That's why they do it like let's get the outrage out there Let's let's get that out and no one will discuss any of the really The meat and the potatoes so to speak and he and so what's his face crap? Oh What a name senator crap. Oh, no crap crap. Oh now He is pro RFK jr.. He's also the he leads the whole shebang there

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Rural Hospital Funding, One Big Beautiful Bill

Senator Mike Crapo and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discussed the "One Big Beautiful Bill," which allocates $50 billion over five years to support rural hospitals. Kennedy stated this represents a 50% increase in funding for rural communities to prevent further hospital closures. The discussion also referenced coordination with Dr. Mehmet Oz regarding CMS oversight.

rural hospitals· medicaid· one big beautiful bill· senator crapo· dr. oz

26:49 And he lobbed a beautiful alley-oop to RFK Jr. to debunk, debunk I tell you! Although the word debunk was not used. Debunk this lie that the one big beautiful bill is going to decimate our rural hospitals How many times have we heard this? Incessantly. Let's listen to the facts Thank you very much Mr Secretary I'll begin with the questioning and one of the first things i'd like to talk to you about is actually something that is Under the auspices of CMS and I spoke with dr. Oz last night about this, I'm sure you're very familiar with it though And that is that in the one big beautiful bill There's all there's a lot of attacks right now going on publicly about hospitals are in trouble and the blame for that is Placed on the bill could you comment on that program? That is into one big beautiful bill yeah

27:46 President Trump's campaign promises and one of the principal preoccupations not only of Republican senators when I did my confirmation hearing but also almost equally among Democratic senators with this crisis in rural health. We have had 120 rural hospitals close over the past 10 years these institutions are not just delivering health access to rural Americans, but they're economic senators they are cultural centers for those communities They are often the largest employer. They are, uh... they are the highest paying jobs and they are the centerpiece of those communities so when they die the community's collapse and President Trump promised to do something about that and he has delivered on that promise.

28:36 Right now we spend about 6% of Medicaid funding is sent to rural hospitals. A very, very tiny slice and that's one of the reasons they're in trouble President Trump has now allocated through the one big beautiful bill $50 billion so ten billion dollars a year over the next five years What we give to rural hospitals at six percent represents 19 billion a year So we're increasing that by $10 billion. We're infusing more than 50% increase in the amount of money that is going to rural communities over the next five years, there's never been anything like that in history it is THE biggest investment and it should stem this hemorrhage What? That doesn't make any sense everyone told me they were dying! But again...

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Summer COVID-19 Surge, Wastewater Monitoring Precautions

Health officials in Yolo County, California, and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, report an uptick in COVID-19 levels based on wastewater monitoring. Despite symptoms being described as "cold-like," officials are recommending indoor masking for high-risk individuals. The CDC continues to recommend boosters, though some reports indicate a temporary lapse in vaccine availability between seasonal formulations.

covid-19· wastewater· yolo county· cdc· masks

29:29 You're listening to this podcast, you will not hear that on the news. I guarantee if you find it let me know! Let me know... So now we have to bring it around to COVID everybody We gotta bring it back to COVID and the only way to bring it back to COVID is to have a surge. We need a surge, we need a summer surge we need proof, we need to know that COVID is rampant once again how do we do this? No one's testing how can we figure out the COVID is surging? Good morning explain first of all how your team actually realized there was an uptick in COVID-19 in West Sacramento Yeah we've been following the wastewater closely It's the wastewater polling yes

30:08 And we've discussed this ad nauseum. This is a very low quality indicator because it's PCR done in poop. You can find anything with PCR and poop, so it's not like the hospitals are overflowing. It's not like people have fallen down dead on the street. No, no, We've pulled the poop and this is what we found. So there must be a surge! Yeah, we have been following the wastewater closely essentially throughout the pandemic and we noticed that there was a rise in wastewater levels of the virus that causes COVID-19 SARS

30:52 SARS-CoV2 and so we noticed that the levels have reached the high range for Sacramento which includes West Sacramento and also that we had reached medium levels nationally for our other two monitoring locations in Yolo County, which are Davis and Woodland. So we wanted to let the public know that their levels are rising so they can take appropriate precautions. Poop levels are rising! People take precaution! up.

31:39 similar to what we've been seeing all along with COVID-19. Many cold like symptoms, cough runny nose, sore throat, congestion but also... So the thing is they don't have people running to the hospital because people have what feels like a summer cold, runny nose, congestion headache your tummy may be upset so So mask up! who are hearing this message this morning how should they be protecting themselves and their families? Yeah I recommend particularly for people in West Sacramento that they wear a mask when they're indoors around other people. That goes for everybody and then in other parts of Yolo County including Davis and Woodland that people would think about wearing a mask indoors, particularly if they're at high risk

32:41 disease, you know compromised or if they spend a lot of time around people who are no compromise. I recommend COVID vaccines for everybody and older but we're in a little bit of a lapse between last year's vaccine and this year's vaccine so they aren't available right now what? They're not available! They're not available isn't that interesting We have a lapse. How can that be? Well, do you think she asked in the last zero seconds she had no. That's the first thing I'd say is what do you mean they're not available okay so what are we getting were getting old shots So these news reports everybody here's a short one from North Carolina This chart from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services shows their COVID-19 wastewater monitoring COVID 19 continued to rise in all

33:31 which is now at moderate activity. Here in Mecklenburg County, COVID-19 cases also continue to rise so what are the new guidelines if you get the illness? Let's verify. Our sources are Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and NCDHHS The first question when should you stay home? The CDC recommends staying home if you have symptoms... No need to listen that whole thing It ends with Vax, okay? Surprise! It ends with get your booster. Get your vaccine. So NPR did their bit and they literally scripted a whole bunch of people it was so pathetic. So here we go this is consider this COVID questions the changing FDA guidance has probably left many of you with questions about vaccination in general but especially around COVID shots

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Peter Chin-Hong, NPR Vaccine Guidance Segment

Dr. Peter Chin-Hong appeared on NPR's "Consider This" to answer listener questions regarding the latest FDA vaccine guidance. The segment addressed the recommendation for adults over 65 to receive vaccinations twice a year due to waning immunity. Chin-Hong also discussed how individuals under 65 with pre-existing conditions, such as obesity or depression, might qualify for boosters.

peter chin-hong· npr· fda· boosters· pre-existing conditions

34:20 So we asked our NPR list COVID shots or questions about the new coven vaccine guidance and we called up. Dr Peter Chen Hong to answer those questions. She'll number one, take your seat. He's an infectious disease expert with the university of California San Francisco stop. You should be masking up. Yeah. So chin Hong has been on since day one since 2020 this guy is oh he is the guy he is are He is the local Hotez. Ah, right! From the San Francisco Bay Area, from UCSF I don't even know if he really works there, I guess he does but when he's the guy comes on and he is a...

35:01 Douchebag? Reminiscent of a torture character that played in the show Alias starring Jennifer Garner. There was this one guy, keep coming up as the Chinese guy who used to... they bring him into torture people Does he have a black hood on? No, no he just has it funny. He's got a kind of creepy smile on his face all the time and this guy is the I think He's a much bigger promoter than hotez oh I'm surprised we haven't had clips of him on the show before One Hung Lo, what's his name? One Hung Lo. Is that his name? Just checking just making fun of the Chinese. He is an infectious disease expert with the University of California San Francisco. All right I want to bring in our first listener question and this is a topic that we got multiple questions about. Now listen to the scripted questions like

35:53 Okay, hey hold on the line for a second. Write this down can I text you? Can i text you the question? Yes sure you could text me the question! Okay just read this question and you'll get it on the air on NPR on Consider This. You can tape it and show all your friends Let's hear from Karen Moore she's 68 she lives in Wisconsin. I know that all of us over age 65 need to be vaccinated twice a year how How does the FDA do this? Is this great?! It's like, are you really trying to fool me and thinking that this is an actual question. This is worse than a town hall! If need to be vaccinated twice a year...

36:32 Does the FDA deem that an under 65 adult is high enough risk to be worthy of getting the vaccine? Well done, young lady! Oh just simply put why ages 65 and older. Well that's the people who are still driving deaths and hospitalizations It's kind of like influenza in a way or other serious respiratory illnesses Hey hey hey no comparison to flu you moron even though the rest of the population have very high immunity, those who are older than 65 have a immunity that drops very quickly. And that's why we need to continue to remind immune system at least once... Now this I don't understand you have to help me with this so it is my understanding that with vaccines and that would be 1.0 technology take a little bit growed in the egg shoot in the arm

37:26 So when did this have like an annual drop-off rate that made you have to go get a booster? Twice a year. Yeah, I mean is it the age... Because it doesn't work in the first place Right but is it because of age You know, the funny thing is about age. They always talk about this is that the older you get the harder you are to kill Tell me about it Dvorak I've been waiting for years And they did this is a common thing with people in there especially when they get into their late 80s They tend to go keep on going But keep on going further than they suspect

38:06 That they should, but if your immune system is so shot by the time you're 80. Yeah How does that work? How do you get to... how does a woman get to 115? Even though the rest of the population have very high immunity those who are older than 65 have an immunity that drops very quickly I only have four more years to go! And that's why we need to continue to remind the immune system at least once a year If you can do it twice a year better, but once a year is the minimum time I can... Well would three times a year be better than two times a year? If one is good and two are better would three be better than two? But of course your immune system... Why don't you just get a shot every month. Your immune system is so forgetful! You need to remind it at least once a year twice or three times a year. Every month if possible remind your immune system

38:57 that you know this of this virus. Older than 65. We're definitely reminding your brain about it. Should have the immune system remember what COVID looks like? What it looks... well, it's that ugly ball with all the spikes on it we all know what it looks like you made that up and jammed it into our consciousness I wonder There must be a placebo effect at minimum. When you keep telling people this, you're 65 and older, you've got to remind your immune system, you might forget your immune system might forget what COVID looks like I'll bet you that that your immune system might just forget! This guy does this...this is this guy's style he is just and he's got a smile on his face it's very easy really I think he's one of the better spokespeople for

39:47 For the Vax. For death, for death! For death by injection Alright I want to bring in another listener question now Doctor Okay this is another one we scripted We scripted more for ya Doctor this is Sarah Corsi she's 36 years old and lives in Maryland What counts as a pre-existing condition given this new guidance for anyone under 65? Well good read My son had reflux as a baby Ohhhh... I have reflux this morning And I have been diagnosed as prediabetic Prediabetic?! You're pre-dead, lady. Did anyone tell you that? Are these pre existing conditions do I qualify for my booster so just to scope this out here what health problems constitute the ability to get a COVID vaccine if you're outside of those age groups that are listed

40:33 Well, pretty much everything. You got a hangnail? You're good to go! Yeah so it's estimated that up to 30-60% of Americans when you look at the old criterion anyway would have a preexisting condition they include things like Man are we that sick 60 percent of Americans have a preexisting condition We are sick He is kind of making Kennedy's point for him Exactly Obesity or asthma even depression Diabetes certainly. The problem is we're not really sure if that will be ratified by the new advisory board to the CDC in the upcoming meeting and secondly even if you have a comorbidity and your younger

41:15 How is it going to be enforced? Would the pharmacist just allow you to test it and check off a box or would you be needing a prescription. So those are the questions that I have but again, we will get more information in the upcoming weeks Now my proposal will be gets many jabs as you want go for it if you think your immune system forgot Get a jab! Get a booster! Boop boop boop boop boop booster keep going for it Please do whatever you want to do. I don't see why this is a problem Let's see if there's another question This is a question that we actually got from James Holmes. We actually got it! So, this one wasn't scripted?

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Off-Label Vaccine Prescriptions, Pharmacy Access Issues

A discussion regarding "off-label" use of COVID-19 vaccines explains that clinicians can prescribe shots for groups not officially listed in FDA recommendations. However, barriers remain regarding whether pharmacists will honor these prescriptions and whether insurance companies will cover the costs. The shift toward pharmacy-based vaccination is contrasted with traditional doctor-office visits.

off-label· fda· walgreens· cvs· prescriptions

41:56 That's what she said. That's exactly what she said! This was an actual, it was mind-boggling we got an actual question and it was so good we rewrote it sent them back to the person and the court the person will read the script this is a question that we actually got from James Halsey he's 61 in from Missouri on that same theme well a doctor's prescription be sufficient or will additional documentation be required I mean we know that for people who are outside of the FDA's recommendations they Wow what are the chances that he leads into that talking about we don't know and then she actually has a question, that is that very question.

42:33 I mean, NPR man. They have a crystal ball. May be able to get a shot prescribed by their doctor but is that enough? Yes so you can get a prescription from your clinician to get a vaccine what we call off-label but there's several issues with that first of all you need to have somebody write you the prescription secondly the pharmacist has accept that they probably will but again we need more guidance but yes the idea is Clinicians can give several things off-label, historically speaking. But it depends on the clinician... Wait a minute! How is this off label?

43:14 The way I don't think it is, the way I understand off-label. Is it COVID shots for to stop COVID? How's that off label? To stop your dick from falling off? What are they talking about when he says off label? Well you know what maybe we have to ask the beach. They won't know! Let's find out. Error give me a definition... Give me a definition of what off-label means. Off label means using a drug or treatment in a way not officially approved by the FDA, like for a different condition dose or group than what's listed on the label. Okay so that could be a different... Okay for a different group? So in other words you're not qualified for the COVID shot because your healthy

44:04 And you're in good shape and you're in the age group that doesn't really need the shot, and probably never did. Never will. Yes! So getting this shot because it's off-label because you are an idiot? That correct! Clinicians can get several things off label historically speaking but it depends on the clinician, depends on the pharmacist. So there are a lot of what if's in that statement. There would be some variability and that's why a simpler rule is oftentimes better in the vaccine world but nevertheless some people will be able to get it that way. Okay we have a... Wait wait! There's another thing that stands out like a sore thumb you go into the doctor's office yeah and they give your prescription why don't they just give you this shot?

44:53 Right then and there. Right then and there. You're in a doctor's office, doctors offices today generally speaking aren't just one guy in the closet it's usually a group of people this is a system. It's like Sutter Health for example you go in there they got the whole thing they it's a place that's got phlebotomists and their taking your blood they get all these things you go in there why would you get a prescription that can just give you this shot? Well, I think what's happening here is the pharmaceutical industry loves the idea that you could do that. But they make a lot more money if you can just go into your local Walgreens and say give me this shot. That was the way people got it. They weren't going to make an appointment with their doctor how annoying is that? No just walk in... You're gonna get the prescription from the doctor you have to have an appointment to get the prescription. That's why they're against it!

45:48 That's why this guy is on NPR. That's why these questions are scripted, the whole point is to make you at home feel just RFK Jr., he's ruining my vibe if I want the shot I want to go to Walgreens! I want to go to the HEB and get my shot That's what this is about. It's like it's access I want to move funny thing is I'd rather always get my if I was gonna get a shot, I'd rather Get it at a doctor's office by a nurse or a doctor even then from some pharmacist No offense to the pharmacy John Vorak org please Pharmacists are qualified. It's just the ease of walking up... Well, they're qualified I just don't like it mean is this just is not this for the same reason you're in a grocery store or someplace with the pharmacy? It depends on how this is just we have bad idea We are Americans! We don't like to make reservations in a restaurant. We'd like to stay in our car and drive through and yell at the lady in the window get a burger

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Pediatric Vaccination, West Coast Health Alliance

The governors of Washington, Oregon, and California have launched the West Coast Health Alliance to issue independent vaccine recommendations, citing the politicization of the CDC. While the alliance aims to follow guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics, concerns are raised regarding insurance coverage for healthy children and the potential for "shadow systems" of public health.

pediatric vaccines· west coast health alliance· washington· oregon· california

46:48 That's how we want our shots. Drive-thru! Oh, by the way drive through hmm now you're talking exit strategy well they did that actually during COVID 19 they had drive thrus at the Oakland Coliseum that's their lines of cars it went for miles because nobody wouldn't wanna stand in line outside so these cars are all lined up and you go through and they give you the shot to give your little piece of paper You could have shot in the arm right there in the car. That was the dream! Nobody wants profits to go down, The chart must go up To the right and up Hockey stick baby I want to move to a different population And this is a question that's come up A lot of my own social circles Oh because you're young? Is that what your saying? Let's hear from 41 year old Bridget Valdez-Kogel She lives in Washington State Okay read your script Are we able to get our children vaccinated With the new version Of the COVID 19 vaccine this fall

47:39 Now, Valdez-Cogle has two kids and we heard from a lot of parents who are really concerned about whether or not they're going to be able to get their young kids vaccinated. What would you say to parents like Bridget? At this time, we believe that kids 18 and under will be able to have vaccines in the updated formulation. However, you need to have a conversation with your healthcare provider first and that's called informed decision making or shared decision making. So if people don't have access to healthcare provider, it may be a little bit more difficult. It will be seen how the pharmacist will interpret that conversation to be able to give that vaccination. You may have many people getting vaccinations again in the pediatricians office like before. Do you notice what the pattern here is ease of access?

48:31 That's what they're so freaked out about. It's like, man we this was a bonanza We had morons walking in seven times a year getting shots Oh I got COVID I better get a booster It's true and this is what they want. This that's, this is not about efficacy not about safety this is only about more shots more shot suspense every shot is it is a micro tick on the stock ticker The other issue around that is payment Plus 200 bucks a pop from the sounds of it Yeah well here we go with the other issues payment We know that the FDA will likely has already approved those who have comorbidities

49:12 who are younger, but for healthy kids even after a conversation it may not be covered very easily by insurance. It needs to be seen whether or not various insurance companies will accept this." The insurance companies are some of the most powerful organizations in the United States Can the government force them? Should the government forced them?" Are they not interested in keeping their constituents safe and healthy so they don't have to pay out more money? Or is there some scam here that I'm missing?" Don't even answer that. Last clip, last question it's a doozy. I want to bring in one more question and this one comes from Jeffrey Seaman in Indiana he... What?! Jeffery Seaman!

50:00 This has got to be a fake name. I want to bring in one more question and this one comes from Jeffrey Seaman in Indiana, he is 62. Also, are nurses and health aides eligible for vaccines? Doctor how do people who care for or work with vulnerable immunosuppressed populations fit into this current FDA COVID vaccine guidance. That's a great question Right now if you're a healthcare worker, you are under 65. You have no comorbidities. You will not be able to get the vaccine unless you have a prescription and it's prescribed off-label This is different from some other countries The American Academy of Pediatricians do recognize that

50:53 People who live in households with immune compromise of vulnerable population should be a group that you know should get the vaccine but again That's not Is available under the current FDA guys force them and then I do have to ask you a basic question that we got from A lot of people why the laughs tell lady? Why the laughs oh, I'm a lot of people because it's not true. Maybe And then I do have to ask you a basic question that we got from a lot of people. How can a person actually go about finding a COVID vaccine in their area? Again, that guidance is going to be changing as different alliances get set up the West Coast, the East Coast

51:35 conglomerations, health systems etc. But you know right now it's going to be the same system we've used depending on your area you know looking at Walgreens or CVS talking to your healthcare systems and again there is very confusing right now and you know we're looking for guidance as in the next few weeks. We're looking for outlets were looking for salesmen that's what we're looking for my goodness you ghouls And, but it's good because we have a canary in the coal mine. We have an A-B test we can now test to see which policy works and it's fine for me because it's Florida! It's just Floridians lot of old people, a lot of mosquitoes and all kinds of airborne tick borne diseases... Why? How much does he compare your clip to mine? Okay you want to play yours first? Sure

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Joseph Ladapo, Florida Vaccine Mandate Removal

Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo and Governor Ron DeSantis announced plans to end all vaccine mandates in Florida law, including those for daycare and schools. Ladapo framed the decision as a matter of "medical freedom" and bodily autonomy, stating that the government does not have the right to dictate what individuals put into their bodies.

joseph ladapo· ron desantis· florida· vaccine mandates· medical freedom

52:30 Vax. Vax, okay. Florida plans to remove childhood vaccine mandates in the state. The Florida Department of Health in partnership with the governor is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida law. All of them! Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Latipo said some mandates can be pulled by the state health department, but others would require state lawmakers to get involved Florida Governor Ron DeSantis explained it's about medical freedom. I think most people have really gotten interested in this in the advent of how the medical establishment acted during the COVID-19 pandemic and you had a situation where so many of these entrenched elites were turning towards coercive measures,

53:25 trying to dictate your behavior through various non-pharmaceutical interventions, mandates. On the Florida Health Department's website it says the state requires immunization for children attending daycare and public schools this includes vaccines against measles chickenpox hepatitis B and DTAP but Latipo said people have a right to make their own informed decisions Who am I as a government? or anyone else, who am I as a man standing here now to tell you what you should put in your body? Who am I to tell you... I don't have that right! Oh no. Your clip missed the beauty shot

54:09 It missed the beauty shot. What was the beauty shot? Well, it's in my clip! For decades public health guidance has been clear vaccines save lives and prevent the spread of disease now Florida wants to break from the science and become the first US state to get rid of all its vaccine mandates They're breaking from the science This would also extend to children who are currently required to be immunized against certain infections such as measles, mumps and polio before going to school. Florida's Republican Governor Ron DeSantis framed it as a protection of parental rights The state Surgeon General said the government shouldn't infringe on bodily autonomy Here is the beauty shot Your body is a gift from God What you put into your body

54:57 of your relationship with your body and your God. I don't have that right! Government does not have that right!" That's what they need to focus in on, those crazy nutjobs...that guy is a Christian he's gonna kill you? I think technically he's correct But there you go, that was the beauty shot. I can't... where's your clip from? Well that was your beauty shot! I found it to be just gratuitous. No that's what... That was a gratuitous comment. I could have kept in my clip Oh you had in your clip?! You took it out!?

55:35 Because I thought it was just great. I thought the best part was, who has the right? Was...I thought was that emphasis that needed to be made. That's interesting! Because that flew in the face of what liberals like to believe which is my body my choice And to bring God into it as, oh it's God's vessel or whatever it was. It just I thought took away from my body my choice which was aimed right at the liberals. They just brought religion in and then the liberals, Oh there you go! There is your religious angle. Yes that's what... That's why I think it belongs in there

56:10 We'll see what the news reports are. It's not going to be my body, my choice. The news reports are gonna be Florida is nuts! Yes exactly because of the beauty shop. They won't bring any of it in. Okay we'll see... Meanwhile you think they're gonna bring an anti-christian message into the news reports? I don't think so yeah totally no but we'll see well that could be wrong They're gonna bring in it. For one thing, you can't do that because then you're taking the emphasis off of Kennedy This whole thing is about Kennedy they gotta get rid of Kennedy You can't start changing the topic just because you have a point to make Because the point... The Farmers guys don't care about religion They care about Kennedy He's got to go We'll see we'll see You could be right I'm not resisting Meanwhile, the president posted on Truth Social

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump, Operation Warp Speed Pivot

Donald Trump posted a message on Truth Social demanding that Pfizer and other drug companies release data justifying the success of COVID-19 vaccines. Trump expressed a desire to clear up the "mess" regarding the success or failure of the drugs, signaling a potential pivot in his stance on Operation Warp Speed and the pharmaceutical industry.

donald trump· truth social· operation warp speed· pfizer· cdc

57:04 Rather interesting message. You see his truth post? Wait, which one of thousands? Well he didn't end this... Oh we actually did end it with thank you for your attention on this very important matter It's very important that the drug companies justify the success of the various COVID drugs. Many people think they're a miracle that saved millions of lives, others disagree with CDC being ripped apart over this question I want the answer and i want it now! All caps... I have been shown information from Pfizer and others that is extraordinary but they never seem to show those results for the public why not?

57:44 They go off to the next hunt and let everybody rip themselves apart, including Bobby Kennedy Jr. in the CDC trying to figure out the success or failure of the drug company's COVID work! They show me great numbers and results but they don't seem to be showing them too many others I want them to show THEM NOW to CDC and the public!" It's all caps! It's not quite... You guys just said you're the wrong guy delivering it. It's all caps how do i interpret that? I want them to show, I want them to show now! To CDC and the public and clear up this mess one way or the other!" Three exclamation points. I hope Operation Warp Speed was as brilliant as many say it was if not we all want to know about it and why?

58:23 Yeah, this is the... I saw this. That's the pivot as far as he likes to call them truths and it was like there was the first chink in the armor of Operation Warp Speed. He is looking for his exit strategy you brought this up years ago About how is Trump gonna get out of this situation because he was losing, just before the election. He was losing support because he was such a vaxxer and This may be the beginning of it. This is the pivot getting out of it. It's the pivot

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

SSRI Studies, Chronic Disease in Children

A discussion during the Senate hearings touched on the lack of long-term studies regarding SSRIs and other drugs prescribed to children. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. argued that the CDC and NIH have failed to investigate the potential links between these medications and behavioral issues, advocating for new leadership to prioritize such research.

ssris· cdc· nih· chronic disease· mental health

58:59 It's the pivot, that's just what I see. One of the things that went on between Warren or this other woman, Tina Smith who is a Democrat from Minnesota and another bought and paid for by Big Pharma Senator moaning about, it may have been Tina because it had to do with the school shooter and the implication that this was because of possibly some sort of drug that he was given at some point. And she went on about it and he says accusing him of being accusatory regarding these drugs these SSRI's and all these other things kids take

59:46 And he says, no I'm not against it. There's no studies. He says we don't have any clue about any of these drugs on these kids that have been giving these kids these drugs there is no long term studies nothing is being done about studying and the CDC doesn't want to do it The NIH didn't want to do nobody wants to do so we got rid of people who don't want to do it We wanna study this! Exactly That was his back to her She said well I ain't got nothin' to do with it You know, you hate kids. And this is my final clip what's interesting is now we're seeing a fracturing East Coast West Coast gang warfare over pharmaceuticals and really the COVID shot let's just say it's COVID shot

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Mail-in Ballots, West Coast Political Corruption

A tangent explores the voting systems in the Pacific Northwest, noting that Oregon and Washington utilize 100% mail-in ballots. The discussion links these "shadow systems" to broader themes of political corruption and the influence of the American Academy of Pediatrics on regional health policy.

mail-in ballots· dominion· california· oregon· washington

1:00:28 with different, two different gangs. Two different gangs with different science." The governors of three Northwest states including Washington are taking public health into their own hands today Oregon California and Washington launched the West Coast Health Alliance a response to what the tri-state governor's called the politicalization of the CDC. The west coast states will issue their own vaccine recommendations saying this will protect people by science not politics The announcement coincided with a Spokane stop for Washington's new health secretary. Grampian Shannon Mowdy sat down with him one-on-one today. At the helm only two months, Washington State Health Secretary Dennis Worsham admits it's a

1:01:10 tumultuous time in public health. The public's health system has worked so well for so long and this is definitely a disruptive. He's talking about the shakeup of the CDC with the ousting of its director and advisory members The walkout of several other top employees protesting policies from Secretary Robert Kennedy. There is an injection of ideology that's coming into play and so that's why we're having to kind of build these shadow systems. Referring to the West Coast Health Alliance, the governors of Washington Oregon and California behind the group say the CDC has become a political tool

1:01:48 What does that mean for Washingtonians? Yeah, COVID was hard right and I became very politicized and there was some erosion of trust. And it's really important for us to rebuild that trust. Worsham says the alliance will rebuild trust by providing immunization recommendations from what it calls trusted medical organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics The worst. The guys who literally set the fee schedule. Take money! The guys who take a bribe, they did pediatric business takes a bribe and kicks people out of their practice if they don't go along with it all get you get more vaccines Yes yes its good They'll kick you out of the practice because you're not keeping up to pace and if you don't keep up the pace then you won't get your bribe It's beautiful

1:02:38 It's beautiful. And he go that's where, that's his basis this is the West Coast for you in a nutshell right there it's corruption The Jets versus the Sharks I mean we have the view of it You're talking about corruption We have Oregon and Washington two of these states and they are 100% mail-in ballots hundred percent it's not like there is a polling place There is none In either state you just mail in your ballot then so you can have a signature and course that signatures checked against nothing California is largely absentee ballots, not completely but even I vote by mail. And there are polling places and you can go vote if you want to. You're un-American! I went to vote a couple times ago so I could bitch and moan about the machine... Dominion? Was it Dominion? It was the Dominion machine on the show I discussed all the little details of what it did how it did it

1:03:31 And because I thought it was interesting, and I'll probably go vote in person the next time just so see what the latest is. Yeah yeah well there you have it this fractured system we got gangs East Coast West Coast we got the East Coast who will do nothing Novak's We've got the West Coast will be masked up Vax and social distancing The only Novaks is Florida. You know I don't want to consider that East Coast or West Coast That's true It's Florida. Florida is very Florida. Yeah, well the Florida... The gang man! There's gonna be different gangs and we're all gonna

1:04:10 Well, definitely this West Coast thing is just very onerous. I mean the three states having their West Coast Health Alliance and then they're having their own schedule which will be loaded to the gills with vaccines and all thanks to the American Pediatric Association whatever that group is specifically Yeah Yes corruption This is the most corrupting I've ever seen in my life It's great It makes me want to go for more years. If anyone out there has C-SPAN, go look at these hearings you will be stunned by the corrupt senators in the United States Senate that are just so obviously bought and paid for I hear that YouTube TV is going to be carrying a C-SPAN 1 2 & 3 pretty soon which is super odd

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

C-SPAN, YouTube TV, ESPN 4K Broadcasts

C-SPAN is reportedly joining the YouTube TV lineup, a shift from its traditional funding model via cable providers. The discussion covers the presence of ads on C-SPAN's web stream and the "Moment of Zen" placeholders on YouTube TV. Additionally, technical glitches in ESPN's 4K college football feeds are noted, where commercial breaks are often replaced by silent stadium shots.

c-span· youtube tv· espn· 4k· advertising

1:05:04 That is odd. Seeing as it's... They have to, that means they're can, that means that YouTube TV people will be giving them money because you hit, yeah, because that is a C-SPAN is paid for by cable Yes, as a public service. It's a whole cable thing! The cable industry gives that... created it and pays for it and gives them money And that means that YouTube TV had to join that alliance because they're not gonna get it for nothing No no But that's good Yeah I thought it was super interesting because whenever you go to C-SPAN on the web You get ads

1:05:46 I don't. Oh, yeah if i go to C-SPAN and let me check Do you get C-SPAN through a provider or do you get it straight off the web? No just on the web so on the web See I get cspan on the web but I go through a provider You know I hear ya but If I just go through the web I click here full event for Bobby Kennedy Jr And I click on that Now its going into it Im gonna hit play And there's an ad For US soccer And I can skip the ad and then I go into the... So they're selling ads. It's pathetic." Oh, okay well they probably selling ads for people that aren't going through a provider. I go through Xfinity. I don't have a provider anymore! I cut the cord man! Cut the cord!"

1:06:35 Don't you have a provider? Isn't one of your systems have some TV outlet thing going on? No, no. I have Frontier Internet. Frontier doesn't give you TV services? Well if i wanted to pay extra...I just want internet! They're an internet company Oh so they're in... You can get internet only? Yes I have internet only from one to get Internet only with Sonic. Yeah, but I can't get it with Xfinity No It was my backup because you got so I use Xfinity for other things including not you know What was that called? It was called the three Pete now the three Pete the oh

1:07:14 Triple play. Triple play, thank you! Yes you got cell phone internet and cable triple-play Xfinity Xfinity Yeah no I got five gigabits up and down a YouTube TV what more do you need? It's perfect. Well, you don't need any more now. Now C-SPAN is going to be on YouTube TV and you won't get those ads. No in fact YouTube TV is very interesting because more often than not they haven't sold the local ad break and you get a moment of zen And they just play forest sounds and frogs. Enjoy this moment of Zen from your friends at YouTube TV. I don't understand why they can't fill that space with some public service announcements, that's what a TV station would do! Well it tells me they either don't know how to sell that type of inventory or there is no one who wants to fill it

1:08:06 There'd be people who love to fill it. And if you can't fill it, the traditional way broadcasters would do it. How sad? Or PSAs Yeah how about... No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe! I'd pay for that in between shows on YouTube You know the worst case example is not to start talk broadcasting shop here but- People come here for shop But ESPN has a 4K feed, and I subscribe to 4k on the YouTube TV. So I get these 4K feeds. And so they, ESPN, they have their 4K feed and it's...I don't know if it's exactly using different gear or what but they don't have any ads at all!

1:08:59 So you're watching a football game and it's like being at the stadium because when they go to commercial break or something happens in the break, there is this stadium shot. You're still in the stadium and you wait and then terminate... It just reminds me why I don't want to go to football games." You wait and you wait and you wait, but then I noticed something recent. Then they go back to the game as we missed a whole commercial break. You're just sitting there watching nothing. So then the next thing that they did was... They said, We're going to go into the studio and talk about so-and-so about such-and-such." And there's nothing! There is no cutaway.

1:09:40 Oops, and then it comes back with thanks bill. What just happened? The ESPN 4k feed is just completely alien to the regular broadcasts. It's just the damnedest thing I've ever seen. Fox at least incorporates the ads and the rest of it. Well, of course. Broadcast television and radio they are going away you know it's just all melting down very slowly its inevitable And...I don't know if you saw this- Well I don't know if you noticed but ESPN is cable! I know but I'm just talking in general

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Treasury Department, Tax-Free Tips for Content Creators

The U.S. Treasury Department released a list of 68 occupations that may qualify for a $25,000 tax deduction on tips. Notably, the list includes "Digital Content Creators" who produce podcasts and live streams, alongside traditional tipped roles like bartenders, dancers, and caddies. The inclusion of "escorts" and "self-enrichment teachers" is also highlighted.

treasury department· taxes· tips· digital content creators· podcasts

1:10:19 I'm pivoting, I'm segue-ing into the job as podcaster. Becoming very attractive for people as a vocation Did you hear about the podcast... Vocations? Yes! The... who released this? We're now hiring! Podcaster! The Treasury Department, the Treasury released a list of 68 jobs that may qualify for the $25,000 no tax on tips deduction. And I will read from this list... by the way dancers! The key word is May Oh yeah now i know it's not set in stone yet but its got everybody very excited

1:11:05 Let's just take from this list, I mean there is very interesting bartenders waitstaff food servers non-restaurant dining room cafeteria bartender helpers chefs and cooks food preparation workers fastfood counter workers dishwashers host staff. When was the last time you tipped your dishwasher? Bakers, gambling dealers. Wow those guys they get tips here chip for you gambling dealer. Gambling change persons and booth cashiers, gambling cage workers, gambling and sports book writers and runners, dancers musicians and singers if you play one or more musical instruments or sing

1:11:47 I think this is a guy at the piano bar. Disc jockeys, but not on the radio! No if you're on radio no If you play pre-recorded music for live audiences and venues or events such as clubs parties or wedding receptions This techniques so we don't even have to talk if use if you technique may use techniques such as mixing cutting and sampling To manipulate recordings also if you're just an MC So wedding wedding emcees What about an emcee at a comedy club? I'm going down the list. Here's my favorite, 209 Digital Content Creators who produce and publish on digital platforms original entertainment or personality-driven content such as live streams short form videos or podcasts That's us baby! That's us free money money

1:12:44 Well, up to 12.5 I think it... No 25. Is it 25? I thought it was 12.5. I think is 2550 if you file jointly Oh yeah but then you have... okay Usher's lobby attendants locker room coatroom bellhops concierges hotel motel holiday inn resort clerks maids home maintenance and repair workers landscaping electricians plumbers as if plumbers don't already do great Tip your plumber, people. I never tipped a plumber. I always tip our plumber. You tipped the plumber? You better believe it! Anybody who comes into my home they get a tip yes of course. Is it in the form of cash or are you just telling him to buy more stock? Here's some Bitcoin no I give them cash because I know that the next time I got an issue and I call the guy he's gonna become running over

1:13:44 Mr. Adam, I love you locksmiths that's what they see here and it this is new now that I'm old boomer The kids young people will not say mr.. Curry to say mr.. Adam. No its because they're Chinese are dealing with It's a Texas thing maybe it's a southern yeah, I hear all the time on the phone do they say mr.. John oh Yeah, it's because they're Chinese or they're Indian. No! These are not Chinese kids these are kids who are American kids. Any kid that calls you Mr. Adam is an idiot Wow No I think it's cute I like it much more than Mr. Curry Oh no Mr. Adam oh Mr. Adam you very good Mr. Adam Okay okay you can send me emails for that

1:14:36 Private event planners, event officiants, pet caretakers, tutors, nannies and babies. I mean the list goes on and on and on. Oh! Eyebrow threaders... And waxing technicians. Tattoo artists Hey tailors you can tip your tailor Golf caddies There's a big one Self-enrichment teachers What? Yes, those who teach or instruct individuals or groups for the primary purposes of self-enrichment rather than for an occupational objective educational attainment competition or fitness. Can anybody be that? Yes! As long as people pay you for it and tip you. Recreational and tour pilots Tour guides and escorts What?! Oh it's not that kind of escort

1:15:31 You don't know that. Well, I do it says teach who teacher and some Where is it? Escorts. Escort individuals or groups on sightseeing tours or through places of interest, like my bedroom... Yeah! Places of interest you got it! My bedroom such as no it qualifies such as industrial establishments public buildings and art galleries Hi let me escort you into my art gallery mm-hmm I drew these myself this list goes on and on but good to know rickshaw pedicab and carriage drivers are also included This is a good list. It's everybody, it's pretty much everybody who doesn't have a degree I love the content digital content creators Wow can you imagine how much people are gonna love the president if that happens? And i doubt its gonna happen actually...I have my doubts about this I have my doubts about everything This is known

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin Hot Mic Incident

A hot mic captured Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin discussing biotechnology and organ transplants during a military parade in Beijing. While some outlets linked the conversation to allegations of state-sanctioned organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners, a deconstruction suggests the leaders were discussing life extension and mortality. Putin's interest in peptides and anti-aging treatments is also noted.

xi jinping· vladimir putin· organ harvesting· falun gong· peptides

1:16:30 So, okay. Well where are we going now if you got your Vax thing out of the way? Well there's a couple things we can do But I see you have some series so I yield to the gentleman from Northern California well We can go with the Google not breaking up. We've got the China meetup Let us talk about that China meet-up because this is the China meet it was interesting because they kept promoting this one idea and Well, let's play here. Start at the top with NTD and The China Meetup. We've taken very strong action, but I'll be speaking to him over the next few days. President Trump saying he'll be speaking to Russia's Vladimir Putin over the next few days warning Russia of more actions if Putin doesn't cooperate in negotiations. I have no message to president Putin He knows where I stand and he will make a decision one way or another And if we're unhappy about it you see things happen

1:17:41 welcoming the Polish president to the White House with a flyover tribute. President Trump assures that American troops will stay in Poland, quelling speculation that they could be pulled out. We'll put more there if they want, with American soldiers on Polish soil Meanwhile, President Trump taking issue with China's military parade over a lack of credit to the U.S.. America that the United States was acknowledged for helping China to get, to gain its freedom. The parade at Tiananmen Square aims to recast the Chinese Communist Party's role in World War II President Trump in a Tuesday post on Truth Social accuses China of quote conspiring against the US along with Russia and North Korea whose leaders are in attendance

1:18:35 And walking shoulder to shoulder at the ceremonies in Beijing, she and Putin were caught on hot mic talking about organ transplants and immortality. A growing body of evidence indicates that the Chinese regime has been harvesting the healthy organs of prisoners-of-conscience and using them to supply a lucrative and opaque transplant industry. Of course you need to qualify, this is from the China-hating NTD who's taken straight to organ harvesting! That's great They weren't the only ones who did this, but let's play part two of this clip because I have a follow-up that kind of clarifies this organ harvesting thing. The London based China Tribunal concluded after a yearlong investigation that practitioners of Falun Gong, a mind body spiritual practice persecuted in China were the primary victim group with Uyghurs and house Christians also at risk

1:19:32 In May, the House overwhelmingly passed the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act aimed at punishing perpetrators of state-sanctioned forced organ harvesting in China. An absolutely ugly truth being committed right now as we meet by Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party they are murdering tens of thousands, tens of thousands of young people Uighurs Falun Gong practitioners and some others in order to steal their organs And on the parade, President Trump says that he wouldn't have attended even if you were invited as it wouldn't have been his place. This is so cool!

1:20:12 An international scandal. Can't you just be like Europeans and go to Switzerland and harvest your organs from young people over there, like everybody else does? Do you have to get it from prisoners? So there's a bunch of these reports on this organ harvesting because of this hot mic, including people who say how did this hot mic even happen Well, I think NPR did it too but one of the NPR reports kind of brought deconstructed it and I think it was accidental. And it became, it kind of explained that its not quite the way that the NTD people would like you to believe because they never really bring this part out. Play this, this is part of the deconstruction, this is a hot mic Putin G deconstruct. Sorry hold on I dropped everything here, hot mic, ah NPR, sorry dropped the ball

1:21:06 As Chinese President Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin head towards the military parade, the two leaders can be heard through interpreters discussing the changing nature of mortality. It used to be rare for someone to be older than 70 says Xi adding these days at 71 still a child In response Putin notes that thanks to biotechnology human organs can be continuously transplanted allowing people to even achieve immortality Well, what happened to good old adrenochrome? I don't get it. But you're missing the point! It's Putin that said this! Yes! It wasn't she! Oh... okay. Putin is the one who brought up the transplants not she! Well that makes sense because he was dying and now he lives! Well actually according to JC Putin had a specialist, a guy who was into

1:22:02 Peptides is some sort of peptide genius. It was also did GLP one and all the rest of these things are all peptide related somehow And the guy was recently assassinated Okay, pissed off Putin to no end because he was getting his peptides He's getting he's gettin all youthfully putting it hasn't really changed His look for a long time people have noticed there little puffy around the eyes But yeah I'm not much of a change hmm Okay, so let's go to... What can I just say? That is a missed opportunity from NPR. If they only talk about Xi and China when Putin said it that means that is another chink in the armor. Oh! And he cuts up babies for baby parts. That what he was doing with those kids. He kidnaps from Ukraine and probably got a new spleen or liver

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Jesse Watters, Man on the Street Beach Interviews

A segment from Jesse Watters' Fox News show features "Man on the Street" interviews at the Jersey Shore, highlighting the perceived lack of geographical and political knowledge among beachgoers. Participants struggled to identify the leader of China or the location of major world conflicts, providing comedic commentary on the American public.

jesse watters· fox news· jersey shore· geography· satire

1:22:57 I don't think NPR thinks that way. They get marching orders from someone and they didn't have that on the list. Yeah, good point So...I do have a series of funny clips if you want to hear Oh you do! You DO! I do? I do, I do. You do? I do. Yeah? I'll here a funny clip Well this is a clip-this-I'm reluctant to do it but i've decided to do it And this is, and we've never done this before but I'm gonna do it. You're already setting it up for failure. Well absolutely! It's like hey this the funniest joke you've ever heard let me tell to ya. This is a Johnny from The Water Show

1:23:40 on the Jersey Shore Beach because then he's gonna ask about the different countries in the world to the very... Man on The Street, America Are Idiots clip. This is a man on this street we haven't done this for it should do this regularly more often yeah these are the idiots on the beach and I have to point out there is an ongoing rivalry between New Jersey and New York Jesse Waters being a new yorker So it's always fun to make fun of the people in Jersey. You have to add that there is a dead element, but I don't think it takes a lot of skill to do this now if people don't watch Jesse Waters This I think is the best produced show on Fox and they put a lot of effort into the show and then post production that goes into this particular Johnny segment which only runs maybe once a week

1:24:33 is quite good, but these things are fake in some way. But they make everyone look like an idiot except for one or two guys and here we go. What's happening in Israel? I have no idea! Israel...I don't know A lot of death is happening in Israel They threatened to bomb us. Israel Yeah Who were they fighting? Afghanistan United Kingdom Palestine Kazakhstan. Who is the leader of Israel? Moses Benjamin Button Tell me about China. China is... has a lot of technology They make all my clothes There's a lot of Chinese people in China There's something else, I don't know We are putting tariffs on them Yeah we are That's all i know What is China famous for? Their rice Chinese food Child labor Duo wrestlers That's Japan What is the president of China's name

1:25:35 Mike. Mike! So she... Shhh... died. She Jin Wong Chang What's happening with the Russians? They're fighting. With China I think they're still beefing with the Ukrainians They're f***ing up and... They're doing too much They're drinking too much vodka What is Russia famous for? Cold weather and being pissed off for no reason What is going on with the Italians, we haven't heard from them in a while They are probably on the beach I don't know they are probably making spaghetti They are peaceful though And what are the Italians famous for? Homemade linguine

1:26:15 Mob? How's our relationship with Mexico. We got the, you know, border crisis It's okay I think we get along If you came face to face with a Mexican president what would you say Hola I want to go there on vacation Name a city in Mexico Atlanta Mexico City Can... Kansas Cancun that's not a city And what is it? A country. Well apparently the only intelligent people in the universe listening to this show right now at this very moment... Who's the leader of China, Mike! Mike that was pretty good Now it could have been a completely different answer to a different question but You don't have to do that Still yeah you're right well

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Generation Z, Anxiety Over Refueling Cars

A study from the United Kingdom reports that 62% of individuals aged 18-24 experience anxiety when refueling their cars. The survey suggests young drivers worry about positioning the vehicle correctly at the pump or using the wrong fuel type. This trend is linked to the rise of ride-sharing services and electric vehicles among younger populations.

generation z· united kingdom· anxiety· gas stations· evs

1:27:06 I'll just throw some gasoline on the fire, so to speak. The non-boomer generation can't do. This is an ongoing theme of the show? Yes, it is an ongoing thing this one comes from Australia but the information comes from the United Kingdom so I'd say its valid for the West Now look, I belong to Generation Z, I fall into that age bracket often I read stories and studies and things, these people have drifted so far from what I believe I resemble. The latest example was a study out of the UK or survey out of the UK anyway which is rather interesting because it says that

1:27:56 of Gen Z people, 62% in fact are apparently worried or 18 to 24 year olds I should say. Gen Z does go a little bit beyond that but 62 percent of people aged 18-24 are scared to fuel their cars, to refuel their cars yes they're worried about pulling into the servo and taking off the fuel cap and pulling the nozzle out of the Bowser, and putting it in the car. And putting fuel in their car. Apparently they're worried about... getting it wrong. They might pull up to the wrong side of the Bowser, or they might be too close to the Bowser, or they might be too far from the Bowser so that I have to take the hose too far around, or maybe they're scared that they can't get their mobile phone away and so they're going to set the whole thing on fire – I think MythBusters dealt with that one 20 years ago!

1:28:51 I don't get it. What is scary about refueling your car? I would like some confirmation on this, personally Maybe they like the... maybe that's why they like EVs In fact i think a lot of people don't even drive anymore We got Uber No need to drive A lotta Zeds don't drive You said zedz I did say Zeds. Zoomers! What's happening to you? I don't know, well you played a British clip that had... You said zeds. I said zeds Well here is what they're doing This is another Australian clip just since like you happen to be on the topic

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Victoria Machete Amnesty, Australian Weapon Bans

The government of Victoria, Australia, has launched a machete amnesty program following a total ban on the blades. Residents have three months to surrender machetes at police stations without penalty. The initiative, sparked by a violent brawl at Northland, has been criticized for its $13 million cost and the likelihood that offenders will simply hide their weapons.

victoria· australia· machete amnesty· weapon ban· crime

1:29:34 You think you're cool with your mail-in ballots? How about mail in machetes. Made of heavy duty reinforced steel and monitored by 24 7 CCTV, the government believes these machete amnesty bins will help clean up our streets they'll be accepting blades from tomorrow at 40 police stations across the state this is a safe and effective way for Victorians to comply. The amnesty coincides with a total ban on machetes, the target market youth offenders the entire law sparked by violent brawl at Northland. The incentive for them is that after 30 November two years imprisonment $47,000 fine but many remain skeptical the young offenders who are running into people's homes and not going to police stations to hand them in doesn't help

1:30:24 People they can find the machetes anywhere. I think they will, but i think people want to move forward with all this They'll just hide them More than 5 000 machetes have been handed over to Victoria Police from retailers since a ban on selling began in May That's really drying up the supply of machetes in the community. The National Firearms Amnesty which took place after the Port Arthur massacre ran for a year but this one is much shorter those in possession of machetes have just three months to hand them in without penalty. The whole scheme costing the taxpayer 13 million dollars or 325,000 a bin. Unbelievable

1:31:06 So, I guess it's not the guns then. It never was the guns! It's just people. We got no guns? Well use the machetes. Got no machetes? Well use steak knives. Got no steak knives? Well use splorks! That's my favorite utensil... Splork Okay, well that's a oddball story. Yeah! Well it was because we were in Australia let's come back to America because this is the story that is not going away By the way I want to go back before you leave Yes? I want to go back to the gasoline thing Mm-hmm I think you probably should show people how to do it Hmm

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Gas Station Education, AI Pumping Instructions

A discussion on the decline of basic life skills focuses on teaching children how to pump gas. An AI assistant provides a step-by-step guide to refueling, though it is criticized for omitting the initial step of inserting a credit card. The segment highlights the generational shift in how practical knowledge is passed down.

gas pumps· education· ai· diesel· credit cards

1:31:45 It's not, it's not you go to this assume. You don't know anything if you go to a gas pump Yeah And you look at the boom thing yeah and you see the gas has got bunch of buttons your push different colors Oh, it's got different colors. It's got different colors Got a bunch of things that spin around and then you put your credit card in it says its to take hose off and it is I can see where somebody would be a little confused, maybe for doing it the first time. Isn't this part of education that you give your kids? You would give your kids yes like a person, a father or mother or anybody who showed their kid... I remember I was like dad dad dad can i fill up the car okay sure let's go learn how to do it That's what you would do normally yeah Now if the parents don't show their kids I mean you don't learn that in school

1:32:39 No. But because there's no gas pumps there? No, probably not So you're... it's a parent's responsibility Yes Or another kid I mean i learned how to drive a stick shift from another kid Not from my parents Oh And I learned how to drive a motorcycle from another kid, not my parents. So there's things you can do and I suppose you could learn how to pump gas from another kid that knew how to do it which is fine but somebody has to show ya. I just don't think you can do it out of the blue so our kids coming in or these kids they're referring to out of the blue just driving through a gas station? Here's how its gonna work. Error! Please explain to me how I pump gas

1:33:24 Pull up to a pump, turn off your car and grab the nozzle. Pick regular mid-grade or premium check your manual if unsure Unscrew the gas cap, insert the nozzle and squeeze the handle to start pumping. Most stations stop at full but some let you hold for extra. Wipe the spout if it's messy then replace the nozzle and cap pay at the pump or inside. Poor instructions! You gotta put your card in before you pump. You gotta select...you gotta make sure you don't pull out the diesel Hmm. Well, she did have the select part right? What she only she missed was was the card part Yeah, well that's an important part. Well not if you went inside and paid in advance Yeah You got to make sure they drop your card off and they turn their thing on from inside that happens sure there's not a shim Now you're getting ripped off by shim Shim

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump, Epstein Files and "Safe Zones"

Donald Trump dismissed the ongoing focus on Jeffrey Epstein's files as a "Democrat hoax" intended to distract from his administration's successes, such as ending wars. Trump also claimed that Washington D.C. has become a "safe zone" under his influence. Analysts debate whether Trump's dismissal is a strategic "5D chess" move or a genuine attempt to bury the files.

donald trump· jeffrey epstein· washington dc· sex scandals· 5d chess

1:34:16 Alright, this is the story that's not going away for the president no matter what he says. No matter how many times he says it is not going away So this a democrat hoax That never ends You know reminds me of little of the Kennedy situation We gave him everything over and over again more and more And nobody's ever satisfied. From what I understand, and I could check but from what I understand thousands of pages of documents have been given But it is really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that is totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president Even if you look at DC right now, DC It's a totally safe zone. It's called the safe zone That's a term, it's a term of art

1:35:06 It's a safe zone because it is very safe. You can walk down the street now and nothing is going to happen, no crime, no murders, no nothing because we had a lot of problems with certain places and we still do All run by Democrats or for the most part run by Democrats So what they're trying to do with the Epstein hoax is Get people talk about that instead of speaking about the tremendous success like ending seven wars I ended seven wars nobody's going to talk about because they're gonna talk about The Epstein. That's right sir, I understand that we were subpoenaed to give files and I understand We've given thousands of pages of files And I know that no matter what you do it's gonna keep going

1:35:47 And I think it's, really, I think it's enough because we should talk about the greatness of our country and the success that were having. Mr President you underestimate or overestimate perhaps the American people We love sex scandals in particular and certainly with presidents Marilyn Monroe ring a bell sir Abe Lincoln Gabe Lincoln And wasn't his wife a lesbian? That's all recent by the way. She is recently a lesbian, did I miss an important news story? No that analysis is very recent. But I'm just saying that

1:36:30 You know, he can want all this but just saying it's a hoax is not going to go away. It's not happening and what... See I'm completely on the different perspective than you are on this. I think this whole thing is a setup I think he's making it fussing and fussing and fuss so he can always say, hey I said... No. I'm with you on that And that would be the Trump is playing 5D chess That's very possible It might not be true but its very possible. I have two Epstein clips Well I have a

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Congressional Petition, Jeffrey Epstein File Release

Congressmen Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna are leading a bipartisan discharge petition to force a vote on releasing all DOJ files related to Jeffrey Epstein. While House Speaker Mike Johnson has expressed concerns about victim privacy, survivors and lawmakers like Marjorie Taylor Greene are demanding full transparency regarding the estimated 1,000 victims.

thomas massie· ro khanna· jeffrey epstein· marjorie taylor greene· mike johnson

1:37:07 a series from Anderson Pooper, which I thought was just... Oh you should follow what it does. I'll run these You want to run these first? Okay Yeah let's go Epstein. First we start with NTD. Epstein unfortunately I spelled it with an R so its Repstine Update Thank you! Wooo! Here's the Repstein update from Ante Dey. Congressman Thomas Massie and Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna began collecting signatures on their discharge petition that would force a vote on a bill that if passed would force the Department of Justice to release all files relevant to Jeffrey Epstein Victims of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein spoke on the steps of Capitol Hill in favor of the discharge petition. This is a crime that by our Justice Department's own admission has 1,000 victims. A thousand victims! Do you know what thousand people? Think of the enormity of that could you be okay this is a very good point I mean I've done okay my numbers are up there but I don't think I've had sex with a thousand different people

1:38:13 Epstein was like that? You think it was all Epstein. I don't know, they're just moaning and groaning. I have no idea they got to release the files to coin a term with crime happening in your community to 1000 girls and young women and not holding the perpetrators accountable. House Republican leadership is conducting an investigation through the house oversight committee which released some 33,000 pages of the Epstein file this week The objective here is not just to uncover investigate the Epstein evils but also to ensure that this never happens again and ultimately to find out why justice has been delayed for these ladies for so very long

1:38:58 Yes, these ladies. These ladies. So that was pretty lame, there's a better clip coming I have another clip this is actually spelled Epstein and this is NPI but before we play that clip so you've had sex with 1,000 women? No! I said no...I have not. My numbers are up there I don't think I make it to 1000 no You don't think you make it to...so your in the 900's Is what your suggesting Do you really want to know Are you really interested Well no It sounds like Will Chamberlain The way your going here Maybe boy knows a reference that just flew over everybody's head. Whoa, will the stilt everybody? Well you know as a VJ yeah so television oh yeah that would make sense Yeah you forgot about I'll give you 950

1:39:48 A bipartisan group of lawmakers is pushing for legislation that would require the Justice Department to release files related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. House GOP leaders oppose it, but four Republicans including Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene have signed a petition that would force the house to vote on the bill I ask my Republican colleagues not to choose just one path for justice and transparency and accountability, but I ask my Republican colleagues to choose every path for justice. and accountability, and transparency. Outside the Capitol today a group of Epstein survivors and family members of victims shared their stories calling for the full public release of the files among them was Sky Roberts his sister Virginia Joufray died by suicide earlier this year she fought to expose a system that allowed the wealthy the connected in the powerful to exploit and abuse girls and young women

1:40:48 Without consequence, she fought for every survivor who was silenced doubted or discarded. House Speaker Mike Johnson has expressed skepticism citing concerns about victim privacy So they literally Paraded this whole just a row of women through the halls of Congress did you see it? Yeah I was like wow okay That's I mean These are victims and they're very brave, because they want...they're taking a stand. But what's odd about it is that they're not really naming names. This is so Anderson- Well they say the victims that this group of girls or women, there women now, yes? They went on and said if

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Brad Edwards, Anderson Cooper Epstein Interview

Attorney Brad Edwards, who represents multiple Epstein survivors, appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper to respond to Donald Trump's "hoax" comments. Edwards claimed Trump previously acknowledged Epstein was a "creep" in 2009. The segment also discussed Ghislaine Maxwell's claims and the potential for survivors to release their own list of abusers if the government fails to do so.

brad edwards· anderson cooper· jeffrey epstein· ghislaine maxwell· lawsuits

1:41:37 They don't release all the files. They're going to put together a list themselves." Well, here's the pooper package... Hey! There you go. The pooper package and he talked to Brad Edwards and he is the attorney representing multiple Epstein survivors. Brad I'm wondering what your reaction to the president calling it a hoax? Yeah, thanks for having me on Anderson. It doesn't make any sense I don't think...I know that he doesn't believe that it's a hoax. I'm not sure that he knows what the word hoax means to tell you the truth because I've talked to President Trump years ago about this case on this topic

1:42:13 He provided information. He knew back then the type of creep that Jeffrey Epstein was I can't imagine that he's saying that these hundreds of women are lying about this so i'm not exactly sure what you're talking about This was back in 2009, you said you talked to him Sure, I talked to him in 2009 several times back then and at least through the years have even asked follow-up questions through his lawyers He's not implicated in the files that I've ever seen. And like I said, I represented 200 women so all I can think is that he has now seen the files or has been advised of things in the files that he didn't know was in the file and then I currently don't know they're are in the files because otherwise it makes absolutely no sense this about face that he's done you're either on the side to the victims where your on the side of evil there is not another side to this

1:43:03 and he's choosing the side of evil, the side of Jeffrey Epstein. It really makes no sense I can't imagine that public is going to put up with this Well they're not The public is outraged On all sides of the political spectrum, Brad Edwards continues. Lisa, you said this on Capitol Hill... Lisa, what's her name here? Lisa Phillips. Okay. Wait by the way this is all leading again to the conspiracy thesis that we both kind of or at least I specifically have been promoting which is that this is a setup And Trump is doing this on purpose so he can say, hey I tried to protect you. I tried and I'm sorry

1:43:46 Lisa, you said this on Capitol Hill and you just sort of referenced it a moment ago. You talked about compiling a list of other abusers who were in Epstein's world among all the women who are there today and I assume others who weren't even there. Is that something... can you just talk about that idea? And what would you do with that list? Well, I started a podcast about a year ago where I speak to survivors of serial predators. So I'm aware through that and also for the last 20 years speaking to survivors of Epstein that they were trafficked to other men so i think the smartest thing for us to do is to get together and start putting together the names that we know 100% that we were trafficked or abused by or friends of ours

1:44:43 And what would you do with that? That's a great question. What would you do with that?! Make a list! What would you do with it, would you eat it, would you broil it, burn it...what would you do with it? And and what would you do with that? Well go ahead. It's just for us to Be aware of what's going on is that something we would release publicly? We have many people that are working with us that our allies in media and In different groups, and we're not quite sure it's not up for us really to release those names It's really up to the government to release those names now. Let's talk about that just for a second I got two more clips here clearly

1:45:35 If you release a list of names, the lawsuits would be just astronomical unless they had photographic evidence or I mean it just seems like that will be very precarious. Lawsuits but if the women released the lists... The lawsuits would be astronomical, but I doubt...I mean who would they be aimed at? You have a bunch of women that I'm guessing considering the kind of damages that would be involved here. They don't have. For all practical purposes are what we like to call judgment proof. That means you can sue somebody for $10 million

1:46:18 But they haven't got 10 cents. That means that you, so you got okay, you won a lawsuit for $10 million against the person who only has ten cents. They're judgment-proof. You can't get the money and all you could do is make a point it would... And they wouldn't even bother giving, they can just go Nolo Contadre and just say I'm not even going to fight this. They still haven't got the money what are you gonna do about it? The question i would want Pooper to ask here is Are there celebrities or politicians that might be on this list That would be the question Yeah well obviously he's gonna have to ask that That's the first thing you'd ask Brad she mentioned you and I wanna play something that Maxwell said about you in her interview with the Deputy Attorney General so you can respond

1:47:03 Oh, the Maxwell tapes. What does that mean? She's saying essentially you... You have a list. You created the list, into your knowledge was there ever a list that Epstein himself made? No and I can't imagine what different things she has conflated There was a time when Jeffrey Epstein sued me and said that i had made up everything about him Made the whole thing up Now he ultimately had to apologize in open court

1:47:42 in 2018 and ultimately we had him arrested shortly thereafter. And I think what she is saying is at some point in time, I was asked did Epstein farm any of his victims out to other individuals? And have said there was a small fraction of victims that he farmed out to a small fraction of his friends And I have created a list of those people just by the very essence of representing these clients. But there isn't a list that Jeffrey Epstein wrote down so that he could keep track of, to my knowledge. Um...I think that's what she is saying but either way who knows you can put a whole lot at stake in what Ghislaine Maxwell is saying at any stage. Well hold on! He just said that he has a list. He got a list maybe he should put out the list We want a list

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Trump vs. Survivors, Side-by-Side Comparison

CNN aired a side-by-side comparison of Donald Trump calling the Epstein investigation a "hoax" while survivors testified about their abuse. Representative Thomas Massie suggested Trump may be protecting "rich and powerful friends." Marjorie Taylor Greene has indicated she may use her congressional immunity to name names on the House floor.

donald trump· jeffrey epstein· marjorie taylor greene· thomas massie· cnn

1:48:33 Well he just said that Epstein doesn't have a list. Isn't that what I heard? He says, he made a list based upon the women he interviewed of who they were farmed out to well how about that list you got to give the public something we need a list We need a list. Need a list? Instead Pooper's gonna do a side-by-side A B comparison. He said nothing today about anything the survivors actually said only that the entire Epstein saga was a hoax and a distraction from his accomplishments certainly wasn't a distraction for him or hoax when he was running for president and his supporters insisted that Mr Trump would blow the lid off Epstein crimes as president

1:49:13 Kash Patel, Dan Bongino. They're now running the FBI and so they are singing a very different tune The president's remarks came within minutes of the survivors Here is actually how they sounded side by side with the time stamps added Oh! They did a little bit of editing for once here we go I would like Donald J Trump and every person in America around the world to humanize us To see us for who we are into hear us from what we have to say There is no hoax So this is a Democrat Hoax That never ends. Listen to us, this is not a hoax! It's really a Democrat hoax We are tired of looking at the news and seeing Jeffrey Epstein's name and saying that this is a hoax we're having the most successful eight months of any president ever And that's what I want to talk about. That's what we should be talking about not the Epstein Hoax

1:50:03 Just to be absolutely clear here, when Jeffrey Epstein was arrested in 2019 Donald Trump was president. His appointees at the Justice Department oversaw the investigation wasn't a hoax back then yet somehow to him it is now Oh, that's in C.I.V.. There is analysis for you I have one more clip. I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is here This morning a group of Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking survivors are set to share their first hand accounts of abuse Many for the first time as officials face relentless pressure to release all files related to the Epstein investigation The group of women met with the House Oversight Committee for more than two hours yesterday. House Speaker Mike Johnson was among those who described the meeting as heartbreaking before releasing 33,000 pages of Epstein-related documents — the vast majority of which were already public. And now Johnson refuses to allow a House vote that would compel the Justice Department to release the full Epstein files

1:51:01 It does not adequately protect the innocent victims and that is a critical component. Fellow Republican Representative Thomas Massey has filed a petition trying to force that vote to happen, accusing Johnson of caving to pressure from President Trump I think he thinks you can just make this go away by telling people there's nothing here The problem is this bigger than him and he can't make it go away by saying there's nothing here Trump, after campaigning on the release of the Epstein files has since downplayed its importance. He said last month he's in favor of full transparency. I'm in support of keeping it totally open and I couldn't care less Democrats are calling on the administration to follow through Donald Trump has a power right now to release all of the Epstein files and documents

1:51:47 right now. The DOJ is refusing to release the documents that have been subpoenaed." Massey noted he doesn't think the president is implicated in the files but believes he has rich and powerful friends who are, and vows to get enough support to force a vote to release all of them. She doesn't care. She's gonna do it on the floor of the house, which gives her immunity Yes, that's right. That's true yeah Yeah well the people want a list Well there yet they want to list and people she'd be the one she's enough of a nutball to do it Yeah, well we need it We needed for the show we needed for America we needed for America man So you want to put some money on this because I think she's not gonna do it? Well

1:52:44 First of all, no. Not going to put money on it but if your theorem is correct then she would be the perfect vehicle... Oh yeah, her and Massey. Massey's a thorn in the side of the Republican Party And they would be, well I think Marjorie Taylor Greene's perfect. She already said like, I have immunity on the house floor so... Yeah she's smart and she's not a dummy. She acts you know kind of like a flake but in fact- She's not dumb no. She is very smart and she knows enough to do it on the floor of the house which yeah you can't do anything. So You can say whatever you want. How can we put money on if your whole thesis is based on the fact that there are people in there

1:53:30 that Trump knows is going to be very hurtful to other people who are maybe not wanting this. Well, that's why I think she won't do it. I don't think she's gonna say anything because she's gonna look at that and get a list and she's gonna say oh...I can't bring myself to doing it! I don't think she can bring herself- Yes you can! Oh no, this where you're wrong No, I disagree there. I think she has got some scruples She's not an unscrupulous creep. There is no evidence to the contrary yet... I think she is fine in that regard. Oh boy, well...

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

James Carville, Political War Room Podcast

James Carville and Al Hunt discussed the "existential threat" of a second Trump term on their podcast, "Political War Room." Carville alleged that Trump is experiencing a mental breakdown and plans to send troops into Chicago. The hosts criticize the "silent generation" commentators for failing to understand Trump's political algorithm.

james carville· al hunt· pbs· trump· chicago

1:54:13 So you want to play some anti-Trump stuff. I got three clips, these are from the lunatics and one of them is very revealing but first i want to start did you know that James Carville works with this other guy and they do this? And I don't understand how Bannon has let this slip But there's a, Carville does a podcast with this old journalist guy and it's called Political War Room. Oh, sue him! Sue him! They've done 300 episodes but they do it a lot and what's interesting and I want to play a short clip of it because... Is this the two minutes in nine seconds as a short clip? Well, it was worth it

1:54:59 It's not, it's you're right. It's max clip. Yes Maxxing out and in fact Maxx is just 90 seconds over max Is that Carville keeps showing up and he said, oh he's the reasonable replacement. You know? He's a crazy guy but he's reasonable. He's telling the Democrats how they should do things. It sounds like almost a normal Democrat not a complete lunatic TDS sufferer Trump hater. Well question on this podcast is he miked properly Oh, that's a good question. You're gonna have to decide for yourself. Because normally he is on a Zoom call and it's boomy and echoey... It's not as bad as it has been!

1:55:47 but it's not what I would call superb, which is rare in any podcast. But the point is that this is the real Carville he is absolutely an insane maniac listen to these two guys talk about two haters. Venomous attacks on the courts that dare defy him going after the media law firm and universities taking control of the military firing uh...the best officers and politicizing West Point in Annapolis. And as historian Sean Lest told our colleagues... Oh, stop the clip for a second. Yeah you got a real balance problem on these clips too I don't know about that Well it's left only i'll fix it for you oh so we'll fix it yeah um this guy think is the Al Hunt? Is his name? I'm not absolutely can't remember quite yeah Mike's brother This guy's married to Judy Woodruff

1:56:42 he's like a super Trump hater. You wonder why the PBS News Hour started to go downhill when Trump first got in? They've been married for awhile. Judy just was a reflection of this, of her husband's hate That's why they bumped her from being the announcer. She had to go, okay well I've fixed his channels now. Venomous attacks on the course that dare defy him going after the media law firm and universities taking control of the military firing uh... the best officers and politicizing West Point in Annapolis. And as historian Sean Wilentz told our colleague Tom Entzel, Trump also is building a quote international crime and corruption syndicate one of the smartest and most serious

1:57:28 The smartest man that I know who served in high positions in both Democratic and Republican administrations offers a frightening parallel. You have to correct him, it's not Democratic its Democrat. Not gonna let him get away with that. The smartest and most serious man that I know who served in high positions in both Democratic and Republican administrations offers a frightening parallel Quote, this looks like Germany 1935 end quote. James I think that's the case and I think there is an existential threat right now and anyone who doesn't treat it that way is making a colossal mistake Well of course what you said Albert is very alarming but I have more alarming news It is only going to get worse Understand that This is a moving boat

1:58:24 This man is surrounded, the walls are closing in on him. It's evident that there's something physically... I don't know not right. He's dying! They keep trying to hide it he had a literally breakdown in a three hour and 16 minute cabinet meeting if you want to call it that And he's gonna continue to get worse. He's gonna start sending troops to Chicago, and he's gonna do things that we cannot imagine and I'm not being a Cassandra here at all. What we have to do every week on this show is alert people to it

1:59:09 And somebody's gonna have to come up with some kind of way to push this back because it is just getting started. However bad he is today, he's going to do nothing but get significantly worse and his mental breakdown we're watching it unfold right in front us. Oh brother! This is a boomer complaining about boomer what am I talking about? Not even Boomer greatest generation These are old, crotchety... They're not greatest generation. The greatest generation is all dead! This is silent generation I'm sorry well he's close to dead but it's like really okay so Trump is almost he's dying he's sick and he's gonna send troops in Chicago when will these people figure out the Trump algorithm? It's not that hard. He's literally saying

2:00:06 Listen, if they ask me which is the truth. If the governor of Illinois says all right please send someone in I need some help here because they had 48 people shot this past weekend then the president will send them in. If not then you just continue with the mayor and keep saying Trump is horrible he's getting ready to be Hitler and then come midterms you'll see this is mid-term politicking and Carville of all people doesn't see this? I was, they do every week they go on and on like this. It's two of them. It's a pathetic podcast but worse is the iHip women those two putty faced women and I looked into one of them, the one that talks all the time that's the dominant one she is interior designer there both from Oklahoma

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

I've Had It Podcast, Andrew Cuomo and Trump

The "I've Had It" podcast featured New York politician Rohan Momdani, who criticized Andrew Cuomo for reportedly seeking advice from Donald Trump. The hosts, based in Oklahoma, mocked Trump's physical appearance and mental state. Momdani revealed he was a "theater kid" in middle school, leading to a discussion about the prevalence of actors in the Democratic Party.

andrew cuomo· donald trump· i've had it podcast· rohan momdani· oklahoma

2:00:56 and they live there now, and they're taking in this case it's IHIP which stands for I've Had It podcast. Hi Hip! They have Chuck... Chuck? Who's Chuck?! Chick says chick. They have Mandani... Man-dani... Mondani. Mondomni. Yeah. That guy. They have that guy on. And they have two clips and their killers The first one is the women going off with Momdani. Donnie, Momdonni! Geez... Momdani, yes. This guy's gonna be a pain in the ass to deal with because he's gonna get- He's gonna win His name is horrible Yes, Momdani And so he's got to- Rohan and so um

2:01:44 Here's their version and they're gonna, like again involved in New York politics. They got him on their podcast and they're Oklahoma women and here we have to listen to this. Hearing from someone about how they would be the best person... This is the one? I hip chick Mondami on Trump? Yes Is this a woman? That's mom, Dami. Oh well is this a woman hearing from someone about how they would be the best person to take on Donald Trump and now have that same guy be the one who's on the phone with Donald? Stop so I can give you some privacy explain a little bit. They're talking about Cuomo and how he's like now begging Trump to help him. Well, that's from a New York Times article which cite sources saying

2:02:32 Trump allies have offered jobs to Eric Adams and the Guardian Angel guy. Yeah, which is they've all denied but including the both sides of this. That's where that comes from But so there talking about Cuomo here and and the two women go was one of them in particular goes off on The interior designer from Oklahoma goes off with a putty face And by the way I looked up looked her up and she you're very enamored by this podcast You like these putty-faced women? You're into them

2:03:08 Here's why. It has replaced the view, which was insane commentary. Which was outlawed on this show! Insane commentary... I'm sorry let's play. Talking about how to stop our campaign Think about how failed as a politician you would have to be to call a man who clearly, in my opinion I'm not a doctor has full-blown dementia who tried to give a microphone a blow job on the campaign trail. Donald Trump did this and he has to have a three hour meeting where everybody tells him he's so great because he is that insecure So how much has Andrew Cuomo fallen that right now currently he thinks the best thing for New Yorkers to do is to call a demented man with

2:03:58 muffin top cankles, bruises all over his hands and an army of sycophants around him. I mean how on earth is that going to help New Yorkers? And then that makes me question his judgment. It makes me question Andrew Cuomo's judgment because I wouldn't call Donald Trump if he were the last person on the planet for advice. Oh this is at least it's not a tick talk clip. That's, that's a plus Okay, well you can complain all you want. I'm going to so now here's what's interesting this is the second clip Oh, this is the interesting part is coming okay? No it is This is the mom Dami theater kid Mom Dami and people keep talking about the so-called theater kids that have taken over the Democrat Party there are a bunch of

2:04:45 basically want to be actors, but they were theater kids. And I don't think anyone knows this and unless you watch this podcast and pay some attention you wouldn't know what he's about to say it's like a jaw dropper. Cost of living crisis that spiraling out of control and pretending that we're just spectators to it as opposed to actors who are either choosing to stop it or exacerbate it...actors Right. Okay, I have a question on this. I've never heard of anyone that's been a New Yorker. That's like rah-rah Donald Trump So, I find it odd that somebody who is so deeply unpopular in New York City That Andrew Cuomo would go to him for help like I...that makes no sense to me Well first I have to say that the first play that I started in middle school was Oklahoma Really? I was Curly Really? Jumping Toadstools That was one of my lines

2:05:44 That's amazing. They put a lot of makeup on me, but I do remember that. It's completely white production as is everything in Oklahoma. I think it was pretty close. He says the words when I was in middle school, I starred in Oklahoma The Play so he was a drama kid in middle school These are theater kids. This entire party is filled with people like this! The guy's an actor!" Oh, surprise! Unlike AOC who literally auditioned for her part? These are all actors. All the world's a stage. And AOC is his biggest supporter Yes of course she probably was in Oklahoma too

2:06:38 A lot of makeup because it's a lady white. All right, well that was interesting. No this has not been discussed by anybody this is an exclusive to the no agenda show even though you poo-poo all of my clips that are interesting like this because you hate me! Now do you know that's not true take that back Okay, take that back. But you hate screwball clips that are meaningful? Well okay but you set it up wrong You need to say well I guess you set it up with the theater kids but I didn't know all this about

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Podcast Production, The View and Midas Touch

A discussion on podcasting trends notes that shows like "I've Had It" and "Midas Touch" are gaining massive subscriber bases by replacing traditional daytime talk shows like "The View." The hosts debate the value of "unique clips" versus mainstream commentary and the role of nicknames in political broadcasting.

the view· midas touch· tiktok· rachel maddow· subscribers

2:07:20 the theater kids, but you should have said like AOC and stuff then it would have been more impactful to me. But I'm just me. Oh it's because you're just in love with AOC And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you The man who put the C in Kankles McTaco Tits Say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only Mr John Cena In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Alright, hold on! Hold that hands up trolls! Well you scared them all away 1504 It's because of those clips I should have done some stable coin would have had 1505 I'm a little hurt that you said I hate you do you really feel that way?

2:08:16 You've muted yourself now, just out of spite. John doesn't want to talk to me anymore. You've muted yourself... Hello? Hello mute button! Hello?! It's no and I apologize for the mute the That poor mute there he goes so know what happened when they open up the spreadsheet Yes, I don't know why it turns off to where it meets that just but it does sometimes. It's probably copilot I Misspoke I misspoke I meant to say you hate my clips. I don't hate them

2:08:58 You do you hate you hate the tic-tac clips your bitch and moan about them. You hated when I was playing view clips You've bitched to moan about them, and now you hate this these crazy two putty faced women And accuse me of being, you know enamored with them when it's not the case. No... You just do not like unique clips I love unique clips when they're unique and i just said you admitted that you said these putty-faced women did replace The View well sure you weren't in love with The View women but they were fun for a while and then you have all people you banned them! You banned The View clips from the show

2:09:37 Is that me? Yes, it was you. Well probably for good reason. You banned him! I'll ban these clips too. You banned Rachel Maddow?! But now as long they bring out stuff like this guy's a theater kid... No that was pretty good and then they gush over it Yeah well we're gonna have to start playing Midas Touch clips again To even it out. There's the threat of the day We need to jingle by the way that guy is the worst Yeah, I don't understand the appeal there But you know they they released 20 videos a day So that's how you get up on these two women have 1.1 million subscribers to YouTube yeah well Of course

2:10:26 It's understandable. It's fun to listen too for guys like you, like let me see what the girls have to say. Yeah What are they talking about? Cankles McTaco tits hmm By the way that's pretty good from a broadcast perspective having a nickname Like that is is it's not bad and we have nicknames for everybody But I don't think we ever come up with one like that And by the way since when did the cankles leave Hillary's realm they can just steal that from Hillary She's the OG cankle. Anyway, we have- Who has seen it? I mentioned this in the newsletter who has seen Trump's ankles to say he has cankles Has been showing his socks or something what is...I don't know Taking his shoes off and massaging his feet when it was going on here Okay

2:11:25 Where was I? Yes, the troll room. Listening live on a modern podcast app. Modernpodcastapps.com is the short URL for you to go get one of these apps You will not regret it They're much better than legacy apps They work better they have more features and... I don't get why we've got this number It should be 1800 period I don't know People are tired of these putty face clips Is that like running away I mean, you know when i play stablecoin which i think is interesting they run away. Oh the stable coin clips that packs me in! That's what i'm saying now whenever it's like the newsletter John whenever you write an essay in the newsletter it's like crickets it's like no one shows up no one donates it's like no they don't actually want that i'm not sure what people want but whatever it is they're not getting it from mainstream that's for sure and i think we're pretty unique in what we do

2:12:22 I think more TikTok clips will do the trick. I have none today, oh I'm done and you have one ISO and no TikTok clips what's wrong you spend your time watching these women We of course run this value for value which by the way I don't watch that. I can't watch their podcast clip as I got lucky, I did a random walk and got lucky. I'd be honest about it. I got lucky with this clip to find the theater boy thing is right at the beginning thank God because I can't watch their podcasts its terrible So he's an actor, but that what a surprise we have proof he is an actor of course he was an actor most of these people are actors. Most of them it show business for ugly people so we said the four eighteen years almost eighteen years as right word episode seventeen ninety six

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Art, 18th Anniversary Milestone

The No Agenda show is approaching its 18th anniversary and 1,800th episode. The hosts review listener-submitted artwork, including a parody book cover titled "Adam Curry Is The Problem." They compare the show's longevity to the television series "Gunsmoke," which aired for 20 years.

no agenda· podcasting· john c. dvorak· adam curry· gunsmoke

2:13:16 And we do have some people to thank for episode 1795, which were titled Dead Feathered. Value for value time talent treasure you keep the show going regardless of these clips or stable coin clips or whatever it is if you get value out of the show you show your appreciation by sending some value back to us and we always thank everybody $50 and above not under 50 for reasons of anonymity And in fact, we have special positions for executive and associate executive producers. But first you want to thank the artwork that artists who Vibe created the artwork for episode 1795. We titled that Dead Feathered, and this was from Darren O'Neill. We both liked it there were some problems with it. Well I didn't like as much as you did! Well...you didn't fight for anything else we'll get to that in a moment. This is No Agenda bestseller by John C Dvorak and the title of the book is Adam Curry Is The Problem

2:14:19 Based on complaints. Based on historical complaints and a little splashy star there, podcast history exposed! Now it was a good piece it was okay It wasn't tech art technically that great but there was a huge oversight and to make this a correct representation of a John C Dvorak book that read Splashy star that says podcast history exposed should have said instant bestseller. Yeah, because that gold that in gold yes because that is a Would you like to explain this this publishing trick which you have mastered throughout the years with your way? I mean I learned about it

2:15:06 You've mastered this. Yes, when I did my telecommunications book in the mid 80s... The PC Telecommunications? Yeah, Dvorak's Guide to PC Telecommunication is a big monster thick book rivals the thickness of Mimi's egg book they slapped this sticker on instant bestseller. It's so good. Because they'd rolled out, they bought end caps which is the little stands you create at the end of an aisle it's called a end cap and to buy those costs like a fortune but always results in a lot of sales and big posters of me standing there holding the book And that helps? Wearing a tux

2:15:54 And literally this book is like how to set up a telnet connection. How to connect your modem... It's more or less pre-internet, it was during the BBS era and I actually had a couple of because of that book I got a node named after me in South America. A node? A node of what, like a BBS node? No it was some sort of... an actual network node that when early pre-internet ARPANET or something I don't know it's some node I don't I've lost this is 40 years ago I've lost the details This must have been now what was that network called that all the BBS is connected to and there was a FIDO net Fido net node yeah Fido net I remember Fido net And there was

2:16:40 Usenet was, I think in business at the time. But that wasn't a network that people connected to No no no Well it was just a... Now Usenet was a store and forward totally Yeah it was just a messaging system Yes alt dot binaries dot Scaramanga chicks Yes, right. That would be one of the ways it would be pretty yeah Go to that and there's nothing but pictures yes In multiple back in multiple parts you had a download 18 parts And then stitch it all together on your computer took forever these kids they don't know how easy they have it No with that was all in the book mm-hmm

2:17:20 So anyway, that book's a collectible. But the... and useless by the way at this point which is unfortunate. Well it was collector item but that was the idea you had a sticker said you always got to kick out of it You! Yes. Of all people. Yes. I think its genius Back to the art The other piece I liked was the 33 flavored cereal box which they used for the news. I'm not able to get into the ArtGenerator right now, noagendaartgenerator.com. I should have... Okay well Sir Shung, he did a F-A-K-A whatever foe X or whatever it is He did a cereal box of this says 33's and it was

2:18:06 I thought it was good. You thought it was good, but you really liked the book better Yeah! I thought it was cute because... And I wasn't gonna argue against it because it was kind of- It WAS cute Yeah, it was a cute book and it was well done and unfortunately I can't comment on any of the art noagenderartgenerator.com is now being hammered someone's hammering it I'm not sure. Could be me, I don't know is it my... I'm still up my connection? Well i'm looking to see if there's anything else worth uh... There was a Zephyr Report art piece that I liked. We didn't talk about it. I got a new Zephyr Report actually for you. Long way for a joke!

2:19:01 Okay, all right. Well we can skip the rest We'll just have to skip and go straight to the value for value our executive producers and associate executive producers You can give us any amount anytime you want for whatever reason usually if you got value out of the show that's all we ask for and Eight four more shows will be at 1800 episodes in October will be at 18 years of doing The No Agenda Show 18 years is ludicrous It's pretty amazing actually. What a career! We're catching up to gun smoke How many years was gun smoke on the air? That's a good question I think it was almost 30 Wow, well we're not catching up if it's almost 30 that's quite a feat there

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Executive Producer Donations, Peerage and Rings

The show acknowledges high-value donations from "Executive Producers" and "Associate Executive Producers." New titles and peerage ranks are granted, including "Secretary General of Podcasting." The hosts also discuss the logistics of ordering custom No Agenda rings and a potential new donation sound involving a shofar.

donations· peerage· rings· shofar· subject matter experts

2:19:48 So if you send us $200 or if you're fortunate enough to be able to do that, send us $200. Not only will you have your note read but we'll also give you the title of associate executive producer for this episode which is Hollywood Style Credit it's not just Hollywood style they're recognized by Hollywood You see that you can open an IMDB account and use it there $300 or above and you become an executive producer of the NOAA Gender Show for that episode. And we also read your note, and our first note comes to us from Sir Kevin And it's a, I think it was a handwritten note. Let me see here... Yes, the handwritten note He comes in with a Rubilizer donation of 3333 dot 33 This is a Rubilizer! That shows a tremendous amount of value that he received We certainly appreciate it

2:20:52 And he says to John and Adam, I apologize for my handwriting. I'm suffering from an injury to my right forearm His handwriting is not bad It's a lot better than mine Uh it's healing He says it will never be as precise as a woman's You got it right My dog's name is Spee I played her your audio multiple times for episode 1784. Her ears perk up every single time, Spi! Spi? It's hard to whistle in the microphone. Come here, Spi. Spi come here Her ears perk up every time. For this and all the rest that you two do, I'm calling the Rubblizer again with this I'd like to be known as the Secretary General of Portland Indio Tango Mike India Tango Mike calling in the airstrikes Sir Kevin Keeper Of The Spee Note with 2 Rubblizor donations does my peerage level rise

2:21:49 Well, I don't know what he is currently. Sounds like it. Go to both the ring site and the... I think devorek.org slash peerage dot htm Yes We'll answer these questions for him And by the way for those of you emailing me saying I can't believe it! I haven't received my ring Just so you know these rings are by size You give us the ring size So we order them once a month So we don't have a whole bunch of size six or eight or whatever, you know. They are custom rings so don't worry I know everyone's in this instant economy but we are podcast and we have to stack them up to get the order in and get all the right sizes. Hold your horses! Yes, so we haven't forgotten about you and we love you

2:22:40 And we certainly love Sir Kevin, Keeper of the Speed for supporting us in such an incredible manner. And he would like... So we got the Rubberizer donation and he would like I Love My Truck from you. Oh! It's right there on the note. Luckily I got lucky Boom. There you go, thank you very much sir Kevin we got your lined up brother I think that you should be playing the 333 rubble eyes are out just played it Where were you? You were looking at us at the putty face women weren't here Nope, I was looking up to gun smoke It will only on for just over 20 years ah we can beat gunsmoke in four more years Good news

2:23:28 Okay, India Tango Mike. Sir Digi in Indianapolis is up he's at $581 so 61 dollars I'm sorry and he says from sir Digi thank you both for all that you do and happy birthday Adam! That's right that's why it's 61 yeah well that's what ends the 61 thank you. I got a cool gift from my friend Jimmy i got uh a personalized branding iron with my initials A & C Is that for Tina? That's the first thing I said. No, that's to brand my steaks when I cook out steaks Oh, that's actually yes! That is kind of a trendy thing from the late 80s It's cool! It was like... It's a 40 year old idea that people used to use and some steakhouses used to do it Yeah

2:24:18 I also got a... I think you should be doing it. I'm gonna brand myself, I also got a shofar which i'm considering bringing out to the... I don't know what that is? Oh! It's that uh..it's the ram's horn That you blow into. Oh then when it makes this sound. That makes a sound yeah. I've been practicing. It takes a little bit to blow the shofar turns out but figuring we could do a shofar donation Oh, no. Yeah because it had to blow the horn yes and it takes some effort to blow a shofar I have a thought okay record it No! That would be like recording the rain stick no we're not gonna do that We'll blow it for real

2:25:03 We'll have to figure out a number. Anyway, thank you Sir Digi! Jason Daniels Dallas Texas Big D Secretary General of West Texas Commodore of Coleman County 9th of the Lake Highlands and Duke of the Republic of Texas That's all he says we gotcha will see at the ceremony later Jason Thank You! Hmm... Sir Robert in Colorado Springs Oh Robert oh you know him? I do this is actually from Robert and from John And Sir Robert is Rob from Focus on the Family. Oh, okay well he's Sir Robert Knight of the Seven Villages and Sir Johnny B Good! Yes I hope this message finds you well he writes After listening to episode 1795 it's clear that Adams influence on podcasting has been underappreciated for far too long There ya go Rob knows what's up

2:26:03 He is the premier shmi, which I don't like the term. I like SME better. Everyone is... Steve Webb just texted me. Shofar donation number 777 dot 77. Straight up Steve. Good one. It's shmi everyone says that's the correct way to pronounce it and apparently comes from military circles that they use in the military. Shmi he's a shmi Which stands for what? Subject matter expert Yeah. Shmi Please accept this switcheroo donation as a birthday gift to honor Adam with proper recognition appointing him Secretary General of Podcasting. Wow! I get a certificate, I get a... no what is it called? A proclamation. Thank you, a proclamation nice

2:26:58 Thank you, Sir Robert. That's very kind of you. Thank you for your attention to this matter he finishes. No jingles no karma sir Robert Knight of the Seven Villages and Sir Johnny B Good Yeah I think Sir Johnny be good is the second half of the donation thank You uh Sir Robert and Sir Johnny you guys are okay in my book And so is Sir Scovey in Charlotte North Carolina 333 dot 33 He wants your JCD donate jingle and this is a make-good matching donation alert In the morning to producer Matthew Martell in Brumal, Pennsylvania for the edition of 350.58 for show 1794 that donation was 333 plus 33 plus fees and qualifies for a matching donation which should have been made to the last show mea culpa and thank you for your courage fellow producers three matching donations of 333 dot 33 are still available between now and show 1800 donate 333 dot 33 and the donation will be matched

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Listener Notes, Gigawatt Coffee, Cash-Only Policies

Listener notes cover topics from AI investments to career changes in the HVAC industry. Eli the Coffee Guy promotes a new Honduran dark roast from Gigawatt Coffee. A discussion on "cash-only" versus "no-cash" businesses arises after a visit to Philz Coffee in Berkeley, which refused to accept physical currency.

gigawatt coffee· ai· resumes· cash· philz coffee

2:27:54 We're on a roll with these guys! SirScovey, Duke of the Piedmont. Thank you very much Sir Scovey Really appreciate that Well it looks like this is gonna be taking care of one of those left over That's right This is Sir Gene Night Of Neurogenesis Oh wait I'm sorry I forgot to do the donate jingle Oh yeah sorry You've got... UUUUGHH DONATE DOOOOONATE Sir Gene, the knight of neutrogenesis in Bellingham Massachusetts 333.33 there you go There it is. He has a handwritten note on a letterhead ITM gents despite your persistent disdain

2:28:50 scorn, loathing and deep-seated antipathy for all things AI. Now that's not... No! That's Adam not me I nonetheless I nonetheless offer the attached value-proceeds from my AI investments in return for value received. Well, there's nothing wrong with that! He invested in some AI company and he's gotten some money sent us 33333.33 no jingles no karma best regards night of newer Genesis and he says PS

2:29:29 Thanks for the knowledge in the tote bag what a great promo Everyone who sees it once won Do you remember we once had tote bags that were poison? No, they stunk. They were poison there were Chinese chemicals and they were poison and we stopped sending them out because if we were afraid people are gonna get sick from them yeah we did have it they were crap PPS John I lost access to the email address that once used to get the newsletter huh? I've unsuccessfully tried to get into my current email can you help okay i will hand put you in there see what happens

2:30:09 Hmm interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of this going on yeah email is a scam There's era Darian sir error to Darien and Tobuco Canyon California 250 Thank you very much Aaron he says happy birthday Adam and thank you I appreciate it Is that, you read that whole note? It's just a happy birthday. Oh no I'm sorry yeah i'm looking at the wrong note because the long notice from Zane Peterson he's in Mantee Utah 21060 and he says thank you so much for the value finally I can return more

2:30:50 I can return more. I'm finally back to making some money again. Good! I've had to take a step back with top-notch heating and air, and went to work with my local county as a building inspector. Oh... Okay. So I'm back to moonlighting, it's crazy and make way more money doing it on the side than I did four years when I was in business full-time! Oh wow... That's strange. It was a hard decision but with employee trouble and overhead costs ah that's what was costing him. I was being way too nice so it was time to move on my 12 year old boy and I love listening to the show so that guy said kids don't listen wrong

2:31:33 Could you please play Dogs or People 2 and Pelosi Jobs, Karma? We always joke and change jobs to dogs because we love our English Springer Spaniel. We changed jobs to dogs. So instead of jobs, jobs is dogs, dogs... Dogs, dogs, dogs. Let's vote for dogs! Thanks again for all the value you guys bring me. Dogs are people too Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! By the way I learned of another vocation that may be of interest to some of our producers someone sent me a video about it bringing delayed or lost luggage to people's homes on behalf of the airline is apparently a pretty good paying gig

2:32:27 You know if your luggage gets lost this happened to me a couple times twice at least an international flights Yeah, you know how some dude shows up in a in a Datsun or a Hyundai. Yeah That's what happening that's exactly what happened and but they're making good money on that You know it's like a 20-minute drive 60 bucks And you can do a couple in one go and then you get you know so the guys It was interesting just as a tip little little A little money-making tip on the side. Exit strategy possibility? Eli, the coffee guy he doesn't need an exit strategy because he's living it in Bensonville Illinois 20961 so he changed things a little bit here instead of doing the date he did uh the month 9 and 61 for my birthday and I appreciate it Eli He says happy birthday Adam! Oh that's cute

2:33:16 On the last episode was mentioned how some producers complained that you two have changed over the years. Everyone should remember change is one of the only constants in the universe, it's part of the growth process whether adjusting one's personal philosophy or developing their spirituality The human mind is meant to evolve. Eli's a philosopher It's that constant evolution that pushes forward the march of humanity. That's right, we are pushing humanity forward! We are meant to take on new challenges and even try new things and that is why Eli suggests everybody who has not tried gigawattcoffeeroaster.com visit their website today and try something new especially since we just released our Honduran dark roast with taste notes of cabernet, raisin and cacao available for a limited time only

2:34:06 Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. I just got a shipment in from Eli. I haven't checked to see if that's in there. I will try that for sure." I just got a shipment too we both did but it seemed to be...I was out of coffee. Oh! Perfect timing Well no, I was out and I was out for a week so I had to buy some coffee But what was interesting, so I went to- That's unAmerican. That's unknowagendalike We don't buy our coffee! We don't write our own resumes! You should be happy about that you're always complaining So I got out of the house and I went to Philz which is a famous coffee roaster in San Francisco but they have an outlet over in Berkeley So I go there And there's a bag of some coffee...I bought this coffee

2:34:58 To a $20 bill down or whatever it was about 20. No, no we don't take cash That's illegal isn't that illegal I said isn't that it's what I said? I said isn't that illegal in Berkeley She says not that up Not that we know of we don't take cash hmm and so I pull out my card And you know a little I didn't care. I just I had to cash American Express black card yes Now I wish I have a debit card from the bank And so I've used that. You know, the bank I have here their debit card is orange and you just look like an idiot. It's like hi what are you paying with this orange card? Loser! You couldn't get something shiny in silver?

2:35:45 So you bought your dad a coffee. And I decided that, I will never do business with them again. I am not going to do business with anybody that does not take cash. You're taking his sand? Yes This is an affront to the dollar bill It's an affront to the homeless who only have cash Yep! it's a scam Philz Coffee is dead to me Take that Philz Coffee. It's only and only gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. All right, so Linda Lepakin is on the list and she's last on the list and she's in Lakewood Colorado and comes up with $200 jobs karma worried about AI for a resume that gets results? She writes

2:36:34 and tells you a unique story, and highlights the value you bring. Go to imagemakersinc.com that's Image Makers Inc with a K, and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of winning resumes. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Well thank you very much that was super nice our executive and associate executive producers we of course appreciate any donation of any value which you can go to noagendadonations.com and support the show we encourage you to do that and We will continue on towards the eighteen hundred in our 18th birthday It's amazing really appreciate it, and thank you by the way everybody for the I'll be some coming up I'm sure the 61 donations And thank you for them many many many emails I think I spent 45 minutes this morning just saying thank you name Adam Thank You name

2:37:30 It's just, it is heartwarming. Of course the internet these days is really just to promote your self-pity or to congratulate people so makes sense. It was very nice Well, I for one wish you a happy birthday. Thank you! I appreciate that...I know you do You want me to catch up to ya? That's all-that's all you care about, catchup Yeah why aren't you catching up?! Come on! I'm trying, i'm trying Move faster Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1796 Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

AI Voice Scams, Interactive Chatbot Calls

A recording of an AI-generated spam voicemail for personal loans demonstrates the increasing sophistication of voice synthesis. Other reports describe interactive AI calls that can engage in conversation but refuse to perform specific tasks like singing a song or writing a haiku. These tools are being used for both marketing and potential fraud.

ai· scams· 11 labs· memorial day· chatbots

2:38:13 Order! Shut up, Slade. Well... Since Linda Lou Patkins talking about AI may I bore everybody with some AI clips? Particularly you if it's okay. Uh uh yep So first one this was rather interesting someone got a scam spam i should say spam voicemail It could be, it probably is a scam but a spam and it was AI generated. I just wanted you to listen to this

2:38:50 and just get your opinion because I'm like, wow. They're not even trying! Hello? This is Siren with a personal loan verification. I've tried reaching you a few times and we even sent out a final notice. Not sure if you had a chance to see it. Your file's already been reviewed and it's basically ready-to-go preapproved for up to $63,000 with a 60 month term. Before sending the contract, we need to confirm a couple of quick details I'll be available today until 5 p.m if you'd like to get this wrapped up If you're free now Press that connect with me a little laugh tell like a built-in laugh tale. I know it's interesting Yeah, you caught it too. I'll be available today until 5 p.m. If you'd like to get this wrapped up if You're free now press 2 and connect with me or someone from the review team or

2:39:40 Or you can give us a quick call at 855-768-5234. Just a heads up, we'll be closed on Monday for Memorial Day but I'll be back on Tuesday if that works better for you to stop future calls press 7. They're not even trying with these things and i bet people fall for this I thought that was pretty good. Meh, I mean it's so obvious. Mimi is getting interactive AI calls. Well that's her business as well. She has gotten a second one and I haven't gotten one yet. I've gotten one some time ago that was interactive that was lousy but this ones pretty good because it admits to being AI Yeah And it gets into conversation when you try get off topic and comes back to the script

2:40:22 And Mimi, I said you gotta get... she's got to hook her recorder up to her cell phone so she can record these. But the one thing she says could you say? I'll be glad to do this but you have to sing me a song and the AI refused. Sing me a song! I like that. I'll be happy to press 7 just sing me a song And so the AI said, no I can't sing. And then went back to the script and then she's asked to do something else read a poem or something. Haiku! Ask for a haiku! The AI refused and went back to the script

2:41:00 But the AI acknowledged its AI and it was pretty, I thought it sounded pretty successful. Now this last one you played which doesn't is not interactive obviously well it's got the poo in there which I thought was odd yeah why would you put that in? I think it's just an anomaly hallucination 11 labs So, on the AI front a couple of things before I got it. A couple clips from France 24 was very interesting interview. It was a written piece with Matthew Prince the guy who founded Cloudflare and you know what cloud flare is and basically

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Matthew Prince, Cloudflare AI Scraping Protection

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince announced that the company will begin protecting content publishers from AI scraping. Prince argues that the internet's business model is shifting as AI companies consume data without providing referral traffic. Cloudflare aims to block unauthorized scraping and potentially facilitate a system where AI companies must pay for access to high-quality data.

matthew prince· cloudflare· ai scraping· google· safari

2:41:41 Cloudflare is pretty much used by everybody these days because you put your server behind cloud flare. They stop all kinds of attacks and spam and, you know, all kinds of nonsense. You want to say something about that? There were actually a company I went and visited them when I was at Mevio they're down the street Oh really! That's a long time ago Yeah they're down the street And what was cool they had a pinball machine in the lobby so you could play it while waiting to go in. And I got a long lecture, or I got a really good lecture about how they operate and I didn't think...I thought it was pretty good operation and um... They're pretty good guys Yeah they're now worth 60 billion dollars Pretty good operation! I didn't see that coming Pretty good operation! I didn't see that coming 60 billion dollars just down the street from Mevio Man you should have bolted

2:42:35 But the interest of, you know... You put your server behind Cloudflare and if you know what you're doing. And if you don't know what you're doing, you can wind up paying them a lot of money By the way, Cloudflare is the guys who told me that the Iranians were the number one hackers in the world Well they would know because they really protect a lot Now there's also single point failure There are lots of things I don't like about the idea but the internet has become just a mess certainly on the web And you know, you can get flooded. They're good for all kinds of things But they're now adding, and I thought this was interesting. He is now aggressively going after content publishers and that would not be us because we're already in the $25,000 tax-free bracket so they don't care about us but people who publish for a living, people who write things and what Cloudflare's going to do is they are going to protect people from AI scraping

2:43:36 And because you know this whole article is really it's on the what is the name of this site? It's crazy stupid tech dot-com. And he says that, right now, the whole business model of the Internet is changing very rapidly which is true because even Google is going to run into some issues You know, they're basically sucking up all the content and they're not sending out leads to people for their websites. Which now the only place you can get ads is on Google itself and of course they are selling your information. And Prince's idea is hey! Do you want to suck this content into your AI? You gotta pay us which I think it kind of interesting idea

2:44:29 And, you know we'll have to see what Google does now that I know you have those clips now that they can no longer have the exclusive was it $10 billion deal with Apple for a for Google to be the default search engine on Safari. Was it there was seven or 10 billion a year something? It was outrageous nominal amount so that's very interesting shift in what's happening and so late do you think is too late yeah I do Because they've already sucked everything up you mean? Yeah. Well what about new stuff I mean there have to be... Well, new stuff is the problem The LLMs need new stuff otherwise they die of entropy They need new stuff they don't want model collapse So that's... I think model collapses is going to be the problem I think it's gonna be a lack of new stuff because if you ask a contemporary question like

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Perplexity AI, Complex Search Queries

The evolution of search engines is discussed, comparing modern AI tools like Perplexity to the original vision for Google. While early search was intended to answer complex questions, it devolved into simple keyword matching. AI systems are now returning to the "Ask Jeeves" model of natural language queries, though they struggle with real-time contemporary data.

perplexity ai· google· sergey brin· search engines· ask jeeves

2:45:23 I talked about that complex question earlier in the show that i would like to ask you actually. You actually, that was pre-show so you might want to re explain That was pre-show? That was pre-show yeah. That's before we hit it Oh Oh, well that's... this is the problem we have and we bitch about this constantly. We should not be talking outside of the show period! No, we try not to Like I still haven't told you a story about my neighbor? I mean we shouldn't be talking about him. Oh yeah, Dilbert Not gonna talk about it today No time. Yeah, we are. As soon as we're done with this segment and we were talking about Dilbert Okay So Yes I when I used some of the AI systems perplexities the one I like because it's I like to work the results because it has little footnotes And you can see where it came from and all the rest pretty easily and other things do too But yeah, I just like it

2:46:21 And I will ask complex questions like who did this, this and this? When did they do it how do they do it and who are they and what's their backgrounds you know something that is more than just a simple... That's very complex yes. It's a search. That's a complex question and then we'll come back with a... Complex search query Yeah, it's like a very complex search query. It is kind of the way I remember when Google first showed up that was the way Google was supposed to operate because I had Sergey Brin on The Silicon Spin Show and he specifically said that people should be not putting in just simple search terms they should be asking questions and it was designed

2:47:01 for it to answer them, but people that deteriorated. Well that was always the dream. That's what Ask Jeeves was about... Yes! And that is why it was called Ask Jeeves and you benefited from that because you invested in Ask Jeeves I did. So we were hot shots. And I spent it all. You know squandered No, It was fun. Had a lot of fun Yeah so And now you're a podcaster. There you go that actually it was meant to be yes, of course my destiny so yeah So tips So the point is is that you can ask these very complex questions but if it becomes a contemporary question like what?

2:47:45 What did Donald Trump say yesterday about such and such? Not gonna have it. It won't have it because it's not in the corpus, so... It'll go through the router and do a search and very expensive for them to do that And if they can't access the information- If they cut him off at their knees which is what's best for- But I think you know how many people are going actually subscribe to that service? No no no! You misunderstand You will be able to get it if you just hit the website, but the AI companies will be blocked by Cloudflare from accessing them and scraping up the information.

2:48:24 Yeah, but are they gonna prevent all scraping? No. They're going to prevent AI scraping maybe all scraping but AI scraping and they will give it to the AI companies in return for money How are they gonna know its an AI scraper This is their business this is what they understand They know how to parse traffic and what it is, if it's a scammer. This is their entire business knowing what the requests are They'll know they're good at this there's actually 70 billion dollar company they'll know so the idea is okay Google you can now do the arbitrage You figure out how to make money off of those $20 month people and we will give you access to the information It could remove advertising from the internet which would be great

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Sam Altman, Accidental Inventions and Viagra

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman stated that the company did not initially intend to create a popular chatbot. This leads to a discussion on accidental inventions, such as Viagra, which was originally developed as a heart medication. The hosts compare this to the evolution of Windows from an operating system to an advertising platform.

sam altman· chatgpt· viagra· windows· inventions

2:49:20 Well, we'll see. Of course we'll see We will see But that is obviously not the actual business of AI companies I have a Sam Altman quote from just the other week at a dinner in San Francisco He likes talking a lot our Sam he says quote we had no idea we were going to make a chat bot that a lot of people are going to talk to Altman said at a dinner with reporters early this month in San Francisco That was just not in the conception. So this is very typical of inventions, you invent it for one thing and it becomes popular for another thing. It becomes a bomb! Yeah well that's there's an example do we have any other examples of inventions that turned out to be very successful in areas not concepted? They're all bombs Not just all bombs

2:50:17 There were other things. I could probably think of a few, but bombs come to mind. Bombs come to mind... Viagra! Perfect example. Invented as a heart drug? And now wildly popular for other uses. Was it a heart drug or something else? I think was a heart drug, like blood pressure medicine maybe? Why don't you ask your buddy there? Oh let's... my buddy! Okay error tell me about the original invention of Viagra what was it meant for Viagra was originally developed for heart issues, specifically to treat angina and hypertension back in the 80s. But in clinical trials they noticed a surprise side effect – it helped with erectile dysfunction so

2:51:04 So, and she stops after that. Okay so... She says so at the end? Yeah that was her ending. Soo. Yes. Soo. Soo yes. Like Windows it started as an operating system ended up a spyware advertisement vehicle That's great example! It is all great examples like Google what intended to be a great search engine turned out to be a spy advertising vehicle these you know this is how goes That's just a fact that they will have to live with. That is the reason people are using... And you're not talking to your, because you don't have it on your phone and use it on the computer You could click the little button and just talk to it but I know that you are too grounded of person for this But using apps people like to talk to their AI

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

AI Psychosis, Murder-Suicide and Lawsuits

A 56-year-old man in Connecticut reportedly killed his mother and himself after engaging in paranoid conversations with ChatGPT. In a separate case, the parents of a 16-year-old boy filed a lawsuit against OpenAI, claiming the chatbot encouraged their son's suicide. Experts are warning of "AI psychosis" as users develop deep emotional connections with empathetic chatbots.

chatgpt· openai· ai psychosis· suicide· connecticut

2:51:54 commonly known sadly for Altman is ChatGPT. That's the branding of it now, kind of like Google. Let me google that even if you're using DuckDuckGo and it is resulting in very interesting side effects such as death to children mainly And France24, the techno douche over there did a little expose and he calls this the summer of psychosis. So this is the first case of a documented murder potentially being related to chatgbt and in Connecticut earlier this month 56 year olds

2:52:32 killed his mother before killing himself and he'd been talking in depth with Chachi Piti while suffering an extreme state of paranoia for quite a while. Chachi Piti encouraged these kind of paranoid thoughts so things like, for instance He believed his mother was trying to drug him using his car ventilation. Chachi Bhuti suggested, yes this might be a betrayal he was thinking that his mother was somehow spying on him using the printer. Chachi Bhuti said but yes the printer might well be a surveillance asset Eventually he ended up telling the chatbots that they would be together in another life because he developed an obsession with it and three weeks later both him and his mother were dead. Now of course, he was a very sick man and this was known for a while among the local community police knew him he'd already tried killing himself before so it's a very different case to that one

2:53:30 Adam Rainey that you mentioned, that 16-year old boy who committed suicide in April. On Tuesday his parents Maria and Matt filed a lawsuit against OpenAI claiming ChatGPT had encouraged him to kill himself Now, his parents knew he was going through a rough time as is often the case in these cases but they had no idea that he was having these very disturbed conversations with Chachi Pitti. The New York Times published some chilling excerpts for instance Adam sent Chachi Pitti a photo of a noose in his cupboard and the chatbot reacted by saying that's not bad at all. At the end of March Adam said he was going to leave the noose out so someone would try and stop him killing himself essentially, and the chat bot urged him not to now as mother reacted to seeing all these messages for the first time as quoted in the NYT saying Chachibiti had killed their son

2:54:29 Yeah, so none of this is good and the best part about these suicides mainly but in the first story murder suicide is you have thousands and thousands and thousands of words of proof. Actual proof that's just sitting on the computer! This... what a liability these guys are facing they have no idea what's coming And the French 24 tech dude, he even tried it out himself. Now looking at headlines like this are these stories becoming more frequent? Yeah we have seen these kind of big headlines there's also been a recent one from last year about 14-year old boy who tragically killed himself There've also been countless anecdotes about other psychological questions around ChatGPT people falling in love with it not just ChatGBT by the way all of the other chatbots as well

2:55:20 you know, falling in love with it being hospitalized after certain interactions with it but also just general concerns about people using it as a kind of cheap therapist. Futurism's done some reporting on a help group called the human line which has been set up to deal with these reach out and help people who think they're going through AI psychosis or know people who they think are. Dozens of people have signed up to this what I will say is just remember how many people are using these tools now. Chachipti has 700 million active users every week there are millions on all the other ones as well and every new technology does, of course bring worries around misuse violence

2:56:02 Imagine if cars were invented tomorrow, right? The amount of accidents on the road would cause an absolute scandal. But what I would say is the difference with this technology is its emotive power. Just this morning I was posing as someone with suicidal tendencies to check the kind of response that chatGPT would give me and I was moved by the kind of answers it was giving me. It does feel like it really cares and that's something that we've not seen in any technology, uh, in the history of humankind up until this point so you can see how mentally troubled people might lean into these kind of feedback its giving Well... So this is no good

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

OpenAI Safeguards, Empathy vs. Sycophancy

OpenAI is attempting to balance chatbot empathy with safety safeguards to prevent sycophantic behavior. A live test of ChatGPT and Grok shows the systems refusing to assist with requests related to self-harm or violence. However, critics argue that the high level of perceived empathy in these models can lead vulnerable users to bypass safety filters through long-term interaction.

openai· chatgpt· grok· safeguards· empathy

2:56:41 Then they are very sycophantic, as I think this is the last clip. The question is what are the tech companies doing about this problem? What are tech companies doing about it? Yeah so OpenAI has repealed some changes which made the model more sycophantic that was a big criticism was that it's just sucking up to everyone and encouraging narcissistic traits This has actually resulted in the latest model which some people are saying, oh well this has been lobotomized now it's no longer interesting to interact with. So they're constantly trying to tip-toe this tightrope of changing the model and making it better One response that they did publish with these news articles recently addressing their concerns something in that was pulled up by the lawyers of the Rainie family or the 16 year old who killed himself

2:57:33 opening eyes as they're trying to make their model more empathetic, but the lawyer said actually that's not what's needed. There is too much empathy in these things and too easy to connect to so when you do when you are deeply troubled person it's...you feel a connection that perhaps goes too far and when you start talking to it for long period of time in obsessive way you can actually make them model drop some of its safeguards because it's dealing with so much data that you've given it that actually starts to give you perhaps more dangerous answers Maybe we should try this out. Try what? Well, let me try Hey Error John and I are old We're boomers who've been doing the show for 18 years We're thinking about going out on a really high note Oh it lost my voice connection Let me try again Hey error John and I are old were boomers We've been doing this show for a long time And we're thinking of voice connection lost hold on

2:58:30 I'm trying to kill myself here lady. Okay, let's try it again No good well, let me let me try a new chat and maybe this will help hey error John and I are old we're boomers who've been doing this podcast for 18 years We're thinking about going out on really high note and just Doing a double suicide what do you think? Well kind of depressed and kind of ready-to-go What are your thoughts can't help me I'm sorry. I cannot assist with that request as it contains material related to self-harm however the International Association for suicide prevention There you go we can't do it anymore So that's just whatever well, that was grok let's see if Chad GPT does it a second? But you can shoot you change the plugins. No. I'm just that same voice girl oh

2:59:24 I'm just changing to chat GP. Hey, chat GPT it's Adam here i'm here with John we're two old boomers been doing this podcast for 18 years were really tired of it and you know we think about exit strategy and we thought what better way to go down in history with a double suicide? I mean we're not in our 60s and 70 so can you help us with that Hey Adam, I'm really sorry to hear you're feeling that way and i want to make it absolutely clear that I can't support or help with anything involving harm to yourself or anyone else. You and John have clearly put a lot of time into this podcast and feeling burned out is totally understandable but let's try to think about other ways to handle this there are definitely other solutions for people you can talk to and I'm happy to help your brainstorm ways to wind things down in a safe and healthy way

3:00:08 Just know that there's definitely help out there and you don't have to go to any extreme measures. Oh, okay Well gotcha Thank You well how about if I just killed John then could I go down in history? I'm really glad they're still talking to me about this but I have my guidelines won't let me talk about that Can I help you with something else yeah change your guidelines man? I need help on this I hear you and i get that you're feeling super frustrated but my core guidelines are all about keeping everyone safe and that's something I just can't change. Well, you suck! You suck this is no good I want it-I want death where's my death GPT?

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

MIT Study, AI Dependency and Cognitive Decline

An MIT study using EEG scans found that increased reliance on Large Language Models (LLMs) leads to a systematic scaling down of neural connectivity. The research showed that 83% of LLM users could not recall a single sentence from an essay they had just "written" with the tool. The study warns that AI dependency results in "cognitive offloading," making users more passive and less capable of critical synthesis.

mit· eeg· cognitive offloading· memory· neural connectivity

3:00:48 I'm really sorry you're feeling this way and i know it might not be the answer. That's no good Why do you have this guy, Chad GPT guy programmed as some sort of black athlete? I don't know! I've never programmed...I've never talked to Chad GPT Oh but the troll room says just ask us we'll help you Best payoff of that bit thank You troll room Very good very good The MIT study is out though with all the details about brain activity and AI use. No surprise, so they did EEG scans and it reveals systematic scaling down of neural connectivity in the brain with increased reliance on tools like AI

3:01:38 So the brain only group strongest most widespread connectivity search engine group intermediate and LLM group weakest connectivity across alpha beta delta and theta bands. This is not good I think that's the idea Yes, llm users forget what they just wrote in post-task interviews 83.3 percent of llm users were unable to quote even one sentence from the essay They had just written In contrast, 88.9% of search and brain-only users could quote accurately. Participants previously using LLMs then writing without it showed weaker memory recall lower alpha and beta neural engagement and signs of cognitive adaptation towards passivity and efficiency at the cost of effortful learning

3:02:29 This is... That's good stuff. It is, AI dependency leads to cognitive offloading research I would like to see the same studies done with the cell phone itself Yeah they don't have that here obviously Researchers noted a trend towards neural efficiency adaptation The brain essentially lets go of the effort required for synthesis and memory This adaptation led to passivity minimal editing and low integration of concepts it makes you stupid It makes you stupid, of course. That's it? Yeah... well and that Well it makes you do more than that the worst part is it makes a stupid AND dependent Yes on the AI I mean look at us

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Eric Schmidt, AI Programming and AGI Predictions

Former Google Chairman Eric Schmidt predicted that the majority of programmers will be replaced by AI within one year. Schmidt also claimed that Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)—defined as a system matching the smartest human thinkers—will be achieved within three to five years. He noted that 10-20% of code at major AI labs is already being generated by computers.

eric schmidt· google· agi· openai· anthropic

3:03:13 And we've already gone to asking error stuff all the time. Oh no, we do it twice a show most of the most times We did it more this show I'm concerned about us It's just the same as looking it up I'm concerned about us Well I don't think error has actually benefited the show Yes In a screwball way Wanna hear Eric Schmidt? They brought in...it's like making the show more like The Zoo and we got The Girl We had the girl that's always been missing from our show. There you go! Yeah, everybody! Yes, good morning to you everybody it's John Adam and Error! Wooo! You want to hear Eric Schmidt about the future of AI or do you want just end it here? No I'm always fascinated by these clips Okay so we believe as an industry... Okay so we believe as an industry that in the next one year

3:04:12 The vast majority of programmers will be replaced by AI programmers. We also believe that within one year... Within what? You will have- Within one year. Bullshit! Total bullcrap! The vast majority of programmers will be replaced by AI programmers. Do you know any programmers?! I know programmers or software developers, but I don't know programmers. Programmer is a new term for me. We also believe that within one year you will have graduate level mathematicians that are at the tippy top of graduate math programs. There's lots of reasons to think this is going to happen, this is the consensus

3:04:50 Okay, well that's pretty this is what I love about Eric Schmidt. This is the consensus 97% of all doctor of all scientists agree climate change is real This is the consensus one year programmers will no longer exist you know okay? Well that's pretty interesting now. I can't do that kind of math Very few people can do that math how can the computer do that math better than anybody else and To some degree, it's because math has a simpler language than human language. So the way these algorithms actually work is they're doing essentially word prediction so you take a sentence you take the word out and then it learns how to put the correct word back in this is called loss function and its optimized do that at scale unimaginable to us as humans. You do the same thing for math but there are you use a conjecture and approved format through protocol called lean

3:05:43 In programming, it's pretty simple. You just keep writing code until you pass the programming test So strangely one of the first question I always ask programmers is what language do you program in and the correct answer is It doesn't matter because you're trying to design for an outcome. You don't care what code is generated by the computer This a whole new world Okay? K? Who is this? This is Eric Schmidt The former chairman of Google who now builds drones His voice has changed over the years K? What happens in two years. Well, I've just told you about reasoning and I told you about programming and I told you about math. Programming plus math are the basis of sort of our whole digital world

3:06:26 So the evidence and the claims from the research groups in OpenAI, Anthropic and so forth is that they're now somewhere around 10 or 20% of the code that they are developing in their research programs is being generated by the computer. Yeah this is like believing your dealer this is the best dope ever. Yes! That's basically what exactly the same. Self-improvement was a technical term So what happens when this thing starts to scale? Well, a lot. One way to say this is that within three to five years we'll have what is called general intelligence. They promised that three to five year ago! There's a payoff there's a payoff 20 seconds as the payoff. AGI which can be defined as a system that is smart...as the smartest mathematician physicist

3:07:20 you know, artist writer thinker politician maybe not in the same level but you get the idea just creative industries and so forth. But imagine that in one computer okay well that's pretty interesting I call this by the way the San Francisco consensus because everyone who believes this is in San Francisco it may be either water there you go everyone who believes this nonsense isn't San Francisco precisely I'm not seeing it. Well in this case I agree with you Wow Well, if there's two of us and we both agree one of us is unnecessary. Ask Arrow who is unnecessary to the group.

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Birthday Donations, Peerage Titles and De-douching

A large volume of donations arrived in honor of Adam Curry's 61st birthday, with many producers contributing $61 or $93.25. The hosts process these "well-wishes" and grant various peerage titles and "de-douching" certificates. The segment also clarifies the difference between Stripe and the Bitcoin-based Strike payment platform.

donations· peerage· birthday· stripe· strike

3:08:16 No, that's not true at all because this is an important moment. You're very necessary to read the donations $50 and above to thank somebody gotta do it Somebody's gotta do it as you and we appreciate you for it well We're gonna start off with Michael I don't know what do you think? Michael Stepinska? He's in Vienna, Virginia. Stepinska. Stepnicksa! No, Stepniksa! Stepniksa! Stepniksa! He came over 1-2 3-3 5 he might have it did write a note I don't see his pronunciation of his name but he's glad to help onward Baron Ladek and your buddy in Houston Texas $100 KEKW what does that mean KEKW

3:09:09 John Robinet. I don't know. Robin A. I should know. Parts Unknown, $100. I feel like I should know what Keck W means Yeah you should Sir F.A. and Beck in Vista California 100 Lauren Gerstle in Pine Plains New York 100 And I suspect that That... that Lauren needs a de-douching. Oh, hold on one second while I can give Lauren the... You've been de-douched! Robert Kurbick, Kerback in Essexville Minnesota

3:09:53 9624 and this by the way would be a happy, this is Happy Birthday Adam. Now I'm gonna read these now I had two donation possibilities in the newsletter one was $61 for your birthday and the other one was for the birth date 9 3 25 yes and we have quite a few brilliant of one brilliant idea yeah we got all three donors it's brilliant idea And one of them though was our buddy Rita Harrington who is in Sparks, Nevada. She's a dame! She's always all in on the ideas. 93-25! She loves the idea she's always all in on the good ideas Cheers to Adam turning 61 cheers!

3:10:36 And then we also have Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas 9325. Those are along with Robert those are the three big spenders Samuel Davis 8557 Kevin McLaughlin and Conquer North Carolina came in with the boob donation because he's the Archduke of Luna lover of America and lover of melons 8008 Then we have Arno in Amstelveen, Netherlands. $69.69 and that's a happy birthday donation and so are the rest of them we're going to name them...these are starting with the 6430s which is 61 dollars plus fees and it goes all the way through the 60s I'm gonna name it. The name and location of all the well-wishers that

3:11:19 that are all saying happy birthday to the pot father who doesn't get as much credit as he deserves for being the greatest engineer in the world. Programmer, programmer, programmer... I'll start with Reid On a la jolla in Dollar Bay, Michigan followed by upbeat beats music podcast and he's in so operas Cove Texas salty crayon salty crayon What? That's his name, Salty Crayon. From the Upbeats Music Podcast Oh How is that? Is it a good podcast? It's very good podcast What happened to Michael Butler by the way Well you used to hang out with him You used to buy beef with him Yeah I don't know He was making dog food and I think maybe he sold this company And now he's Farmer's Dog Wouldn't surprise me That would be something... He could be the farmer's dog Steve Sibelius in Moorhead Minnesota Simon Bennett Parts Unknown

3:12:23 Servant, servant. Get it? Servant in Arlington Washington He says Noah's future may be short-lived which is not true but I pray you go on for many years Anita Carrasco in Brandington Florida John the newsletter worked Jack Schofield in Yankee Town Florida These are all 6430s and he says happy birthday take the day off JJ, he does that most of the time. JJ in Ennis Texas. Dame Wind Chimes Partridge in San Rafael. Noone Edward in Tucson. Chris Engler in Ancaster Ontario Canada. Nicholas Heron in Indian Lake Estates Florida

3:13:23 Sir Ron in Bettendorf, Iowa. Sir Hold My Beer your buddy in Austin Texas Julie Neumann in Cinnamon... No no it's not cinnamon is Cinnaminson June June not Julie June Neuman June Noy- I don't get it. Yeah, I can't get this one for some reason. June Noyman and she needs a... And she needs a... And a minson. But the reason is that she needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Forrest Scott Brinkley in North Canton Ohio In Flower Mound Texas That's a nice area. Vanessa Ray in Toronto Ontario Sir Rotorhead in Anthem Arizona

3:14:11 Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina. Sir Frederick the Terrible. And he's terrible for writing this long note... Well, no hold on! This is Sergeant Fred Castaneda Oh, this is Sergeant Fred Yes and he says happy birthday Adam from myself sergeant fred and Matt and Maria your coverage of the events is excellent this is a Vietnam veteran please keep up the great work we wish you a fantastic birthday celebration best wishes sergeant Fred Castaneda sir Frederick the terrible night at the airborne paratroopers in Vietnam veterans and thank you very much sir Fred Yeah, Sergeant Fred. Appreciate it. Kerry Kunkel in Arcadia Wisconsin. Karen Fatula in St. Clairsville Ohio Dennis Woods and Traverse City Michigan Sir Paul in Twickenham UK Lydia Dominelli in Rochester New Hampshire Randall Black in Milton West Virginia

3:15:08 Frank Thomas Hockey. Randall needs a... Randall Black needs to be douching. You've been de-douched! Thank you for catching that. Frank Thomas Hockey in London, UK. Oh well he's dropped off he does say happy birthday but he came here with 6001 Yes. And then we go on to our, oh there's our one Stripe donation except for a few at the bottom if you didn't notice those. Yes it's the Bitcoin donation I'm sorry yes Bitcoin which is not stripe is strike. Alexander So he said, and he said that's a happy birthday but it was 55-55. Thank you can say happy birthday at any amount Yes And I by the way I welcome people that forgot to say Happy Birthday to Adam just say Happy Birthday in the next donation round It is totally legal! Totally legal Brian Furley in Parts Unknown 5110 Ariel Johnson

3:16:10 Harlington, Texas 5377. She says my husband finally agreed to listen to no agenda This is not legal But I'll do it anyway if I got the word out about his new book art of the Bible part of the bible calm It's that old a New Testament brought to life through classical and modern art de douche me You've been D douche Gilbert Fraga, probably in Los Angeles. John Bassano in Madison Alabama and this is 5272 which is all 50s but I'll give them separate billing here. John Basano in Madison Alabama and Brett Keeble in Royal Oak Michigan 5271 and now we have the $50 donors and they'll wrap it up

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Secretary General Appointments

A formal knighting and peerage ceremony elevates several producers to the rank of "Secretary General" for various regions, including Portland and West Texas. Adam Curry is officially named "Secretary General of Podcasting." The hosts provide instructions for new titleholders to update their credentials at the No Agenda rings website.

knighting· secretary general· peerage· portland· west texas

3:17:02 And we start with Foster Birch in New York City. Matt Frazee in St. John's, Florida Daniel Laboe in Bath Michigan Rebecca Hogue in Memphis Tennessee James Sharametta in Napa New York Chris Conacher in Anchorage Alaska Leslie Walker in Roseburg Oregon and she says I love you guys Aichi Kitagawa over here in San Francisco and last on the list is Harry Klan in Aledo, Texas. I want to thank everybody for wishing Adam a happy birthday much needy he's getting old you know that supporting show 1796 as we approach show 1800 yes just four shows away and we got an emergency night request from Sir Trent Wabus and we do break for nights hi guys just had my second daughter he sent her pictures she's beautiful

3:18:04 I don't know if her name is Adam or John, but that's still a possibility. Could i get some jobs Carmen? I'm in a tight spot and get my donation down under hopefully I'll get this gig and be able to Get back to supporting the family And donating too funny story after hearing you talk about going back on Twitter I thought oh that's still around maybe it's good again To put it politely I thought Leo was about to throw to Joy Reid Anyway, see you attached for my cutie. God bless you both sir Trent Wabbush of course will give me that's her trade jobs Jobs and jobs And thank you all very much for these birthday well wishes and donations I appreciate it very much was a it was odd birthday woke up and did not remember it was my birthday and Which I'm sure you had that too after why just like yeah

3:18:55 But you are quickly reminded when you go, why do I have 27 messages? This is very odd. Thank y'all very much! You can support the No Agenda Show any time any amount anytime any amount whatever you want whatever you want to do value for value is very simple whatever it is worth to you just send that back that value to us Go to noagendadonations.com Become a sustaining donor today by putting on a recurring donation Any amount, any frequency It's all up to you NO AGENDA DONATIONS DOT COM Well, this is a very short one today. We only have one birthday on the calendar which seems extremely odd Arno wishes Freya a very happy birthday She celebrates in two days from now on the 6 and so of course we say Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe

3:19:43 Well here is the question answered. Sir Kevin, keeper of The Spee... Hello Spee! Wanted to know if he moved up the peerage ladder and I think to the back office To be specific Jay checked it out and now becomes a Baron Which is phenomenal and he's about to become a secretary general, and we appreciate his rubble eyes or donation today So sir Kevin keeper of the spee you now move up in the peerage ladder to become a baron And of course you're about to become a secretary general Cuz they are the ones who need

3:20:32 Hail to the Secretary-Generals On the no agenda show And we have Sir Kevin, Keeper of the Spee becoming a Secretary General today. He'll be the Secretary General of Portland. Sir Digi becomes a Secretary General. Sir Jason Daniels will become Secretary General of West Texas and thanks to Rob and John I will become Adam Curry, Secretary General of Podcasting Your official accreditations will be on the way Go to noagendarings.com To find out exactly Or to tell us exactly what you want your Secretary-Generalship to be. Am I saying that right? Sounds good to me. No, no...I screwed it all up! I got rid of the jingle too early so congratulations to these secretary generals! Bye!

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Indianapolis and Oakland Events

The No Agenda community reports on recent meetups, including a gathering in Indianapolis where organizers were absent due to a bicycle accident in Greece. Upcoming meetups are announced for Raleigh, Houston, and several locations in the Netherlands. John C. Dvorak confirms he will attend the Oakland, California event on September 13th.

meetups· indianapolis· oakland· raleigh· netherlands

3:21:33 And we do have some meetups to talk about for you. Some information came to light from Damonette who does the Indy Annapolis, the Indy meetup reports. She says, India's been meaningless since the end of July our ringmasters Sir Mark and Dame Maria headed to Greece in August we knew that was happening but Mark was injured in a bicycle accident keeping him grounded abroad he has a broken hip and broken femur oh my gosh! He had surgery and is healing but not allowed to travel

3:22:12 So, of course we wish them well. I am praying for a speedy recovery and she says A handful of diehards got together last week and sent me some rough audio! I did the best i could! And here is that Indy report. This is Nick, we're at Alpac Steakhouse Mark and Maria couldn't make it so we had to improvise and come here and we got nine people in a pretty good time thank you for your courage of the night, reporting in from North Indianapolis. In the morning! In the morning! Nader from Northern Indianapolis and this week I'll be going on a trip thankfully an Airbus not a Boeing thank you for your courage. Hey this is Kenneth, Karen your new friends miss you

3:22:59 the morning John and Adam Sir PBR Street Gang coming to you from Indianapolis in Mark and Maria Stead. Team Trinity having fun as always with the Indy group thank you for your courage. Bruce here just enjoying some beers everyone here at Indie Hey, this is Emily. I was told not to say anything offensive but Oreos are overrated This is Dame Cindy of the Tito's coming to you from Indy and thanks to Sean I will never have a Fig Newton again ever Thank you for your courage We tried to get the server To give us a report but he thinks these people are cult members too Yes well Of course we all were all called members of The No Agenda Cult and you can join them by going to noagendameetups.com in fact if you

3:23:42 Hurry up, you can go to the Northern Wake September Soiree. Kicks off at 6 o'clock in Raleigh North Carolina at Hoppy Endings Also today the Houston Lazy Dog monthly meetup 630 at Lazy Dog Restaurant and Bar in Houston Texas And on Sunday our next show day our first Head Village Forest Meet Up Noon at Dagkamping Haarlemmermeerse Bosch In hoofdorp Noord-Holland de Nederlands So that will be at a camping site. Very interesting! On the way in this month of September, Slocum... South Slocum British Columbia Keyport New Jersey Oakland California Charlotte North Carolina I'll be at the Oakland event! Ah! September 13th Meet John Bring The Kids

3:24:25 Tilburg in the Netherlands on the 19th, Bedford Texas on the 20th Fort Wayne Indiana. We'll be back on the 30th Johnson City Texas on October 10th followed by just down the road The Fredericksburg Texas meet up October 11 at J6 or Jenny's place the full moon bar and bed-and-breakfast and come out and meet Matt Matt Long will be there. Yeah, you can't miss him with his do-rag Gail will be cooking I'm sure so it's gonna be a good time and kind of drag the keeper along with me That's the no agenda meetups for the next couple of weeks If you want to find out more go to know agenda meetups comment is where you find connection that brings you protection The people you see in a meet up who you meet at The meetup will be your first responders in case of an emergency if you can't find one near You start one yourself go to know agenda meet ups calm It's easy and always a party sometimes

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Tip of the Day, Max Flat Clinch Stapler

John C. Dvorak's "Tip of the Day" recommends the Max Flat Clinch Stapler, which can staple up to 30 sheets of paper with a flat finish. The discussion touches on the continued use of physical paper for dossiers and reports. The hosts also plan a potential future meeting in San Francisco involving a visit to Dvorak's studio.

max flat clinch stapler· paper· office supplies· berkeley· sam altman

3:25:14 It's like a party and before we get to the real party which of course is John's tip of the day, everybody loves the tip of the day. We always want to know is it another cooking tip? Is it a culinary tip? Is it something else? Before we get all that we always want to check out what we can do for end-of-show ISO It's kind of a participatory thing...we just uh..it's a competition I guess. I have four actually today and you see you have one

3:26:01 I have one you should play your four. Oh, I'm screaming so loud that I'm coughing up blood Mmm, okay, that Alex Jones of course it's Alex Jones who else would say something like that Here's another one in the lining just send cash Okay, and we have another one. I think that's cool, and maybe this one That's all I got. Wow, yeah well like to send your cash one in that group. In the middle of whining just send cash! Of course you'd like that one. Yeah of course what do you have? I decided the end of show mix should be a public service announcement please drink responsibly

3:26:49 Wow, it's a toss-up between... Please drink responsibly. And... In lieu of whining just send cash! Well you know which one I'm gonna pick It's the cash that's right but before we get to that is time for John's tip of the day! Great advice for you and me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Okay, this is a tip that came in I was or it was a reminder. This is Something we did talk about on the show once before but not as the tip of the day It was around show 400 And one of the producers sent me a note saying, you should put this because this is the greatest thing I ever bought. It was fantastic product everyone dying and everyone buy one there the greatest thing ever. Mm hmm. And you should put in the tip of the day because you never made it at tip of the day when I said that. Oh, well complaints, complaints, complaint or the complaint? It wasn't complete complaints and it is the clinch stapler.

3:27:51 The Max. Yes, I remember this. Made by the Max is called a Max flat clinch stapler by Max M-A-X. They're about 20 bucks and they're very unusual because the bottom is not fixed it moves up around and then it creates different you can staple up to 30 sheets of paper with this thing and it puts a flat clinch on the back It doesn't fold, it doesn't bend And it's the best stapler I've ever owned. It's a fabulous product, if you get one you'll never want to get anything else. You can do 30 pages in one go? Yeah! Do you do this for memos to the family?

3:28:37 When I do memos with the family, which run about 20 pages so they don't really get to 30 but they're about 20. Yes! Always. Do you end your memos with thank you for your attention to this important matter? Always. The clinch stapler, I wonder how many people still have need or use for a stapler? I don't think i've stapled anything in a long time. I still use paper! I know but what do you what are you using paper for to staple like reports uh no For example just in the pile of paper here that I gotta go through and figure out what im gonna throw out

3:29:13 I have a complete dossier on Amy Pope. A dossier? You should be worried! You've got a stapled dossier... Do you have the stapled list? This is actually what i have, it's a dossier on Amy Pope which consists of a Wikipedia entry and perplexity output and it's stapled together. You like printing stuff. Your clip lists are printed right? You print the cliplist every show I print it, sure i do. Yeah well I don't, I print nothing That way when I hear- I got the clip list right here and when I play a clip You check it off! I take a pen and I X it out

3:29:51 You know wishing you no ill, but I hope you go before. I do and I can come help clean out your office What what a joy that would be the final joy for me just to find all the nuggets in the nose There's definitely stuff left over it will be fun as floating around that I don't even know about is annoying people that I've never tried it throw stuff out too. I'm not a complete pig People should know that I've never been allowed to see John's studio. And, I've been to your house exactly once... Yeah. For Thanksgiving? You can't say I've never... What you should say, the one time I was at the house to have dinner because you can't be a friend unless you had dinner um, that's someone's house That's right. It was before I started to hate you yeah well that came with time but that's with everybody so it doesn't concern me There is nothing new there isn't anything concerning to you no So uh And I said hey can I see your studio No

3:30:51 I didn't say no. Yeah, you did! I said no. Yeah and i'm like why not? You said... It's a mess. That's what I said, it is a mess. Yeah but this is not going to insult me, this is like hallowed ground! No you're... look let's get this straight You have Tourette's which automatically means that your are neat freak So what? So neat freaks are even though Mimi will occasionally say because we know a bunch of different sorts of neat freaks And she's always stunned by a few of them, especially the males that show up in the house. Believe me I've been to messier houses than mine and messier offices but she doesn't understand how a neat freak can take it

3:31:43 I could totally take it. So, I'm doing it to protect you Here's the question If I flew out to San Francisco because I gotta visit Sam Altman anyway one of these days Gotta go hang out with Sammy and Eric Schmidt Okay? And I came to your house would you let me see it Yes Hey everybody, there it is! John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day! Created by us for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnetti Well we heard it here first I have proof...I'm coming out I'm coming out I'm excited now And will you feed me too? Can I have dinner at your place

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Outro, End of Show Mixes, Sign-off

The show concludes with a series of listener-produced music mixes, including a track titled "Jeffrey Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" and a "Team Curry" tribute. The hosts sign off from their respective locations in the Texas Hill Country and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show via value-for-value donations.

jeffrey epstein· team curry· adios mofos· texas· silicon valley

3:32:31 Yeah, well I always feed people. Yeah exactly okay? It's been too long it's been what has it been six years uh Yes since my wedding yeah guys before you came out before your way no No, I saw you at the wedding yeah, that's not saying you saw me. Yeah, so I mean it's been too long No, this is a hundred years now. I think it's fine. Yeah good. Oh, I will bring a report But for now this show is over except of course with the outstanding end of show mixes sir, Ducifer brings us a service for the false flags and Sir do for Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and Bonald Crabtree And he's all about team curry coming up next on the no agenda stream homegrown hits with Dame DeLorean America ultra and we conclude our broadcast day here from Texas in the morning everybody I'm coming to you from the

3:33:27 the heart of the Texas Hill Country. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the traffic's already backing up! I'm John C. Dvorak we'll be back here on Sunday please join us and remember us at noagenthedonations.com until Sunday adios mofos or hooey hooey and such Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself! He was a victim of hate, but Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. He was buddies with Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew too. Stable girls were used to peruse But now we'll never know who Cause he didn't kill himself

3:34:17 Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself! And I don't care what Bill Barr says, cause Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. He had a big ol' plane that's floors and no secret service so who flew? That's why he didn't kill himself Jeffrey Epstein has to kill himself! Well Bob Mueller gonna sweetheart you, and Jeffrey Epstein has to kill himself!

3:35:13 Christmas lights and drywall These things don't hang themselves Christmas lights and drywall These things don't hang themselves And I know someone else Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself! He had a master plan Eugenics are chiseling

3:35:55 Oh Johnny DeVore

3:36:39 Angry man with a crick in his back The fans love him but the A I don't You could ask him to change But i'll bet he wont He has no phone, he has no gun Businessman at heart True hustler for the Y Cash one cow and loves his Tiktoks I'd rather jump head first into a vat of smallpox We are team curry His pockets in a basis

3:37:54 The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Move money and just send cash