Episode 178 · Sunday, 28 February 2010

HAARP-ing on Earthquakes

Geopolitical tensions manifest through suspected seismic warfare as media outlets fumble disaster coverage and pharmaceutical interests drive new medical diagnoses and vaccine contracts.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 178

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak challenge the official narrative of the Chile earthquake, suggesting the 8.8 magnitude event was a targeted strike in a US-China proxy war. Citing reports from Cecilia Lago regarding atmospheric color changes and the strategic importance of Chilean copper to Beijing, the theory posits that HAARP technology was deployed as a retaliatory measure following seismic provocations in Okinawa. The discussion links these events to the UN charter on environmental modification and the work of Rosalie Bartel regarding planetary weaponry.

Media deconstruction focuses on the failure of mainstream outlets, including a Fox News segment that misidentified closed-circuit television as a local station and a CNN broadcast where a hostess struggled to convert meters to English. The hosts scrutinize a Time Magazine profile of Jenny McCarthy by Carl Taro Greenfield, identifying rhetorical techniques used to discredit vaccine skepticism. Further investigation into the University of Queensland reveals pharmaceutical funding behind studies linking cannabis to psychosis, while the Obama administration issues a $150 million no-bid anthrax vaccine contract amid reports of contaminated heroin in Europe.

Nigel Farage delivers a scathing critique of EU President Herman Van Rompuy, famously comparing his charisma to a damp rag. The program also explores the logistics of NATO laundry shipments being used for drug smuggling and the emergence of female sexual dysfunction as a manufactured medical disorder. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry debate the merits of Health Savings Accounts versus the Dutch healthcare model before signing off from their respective studios.


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CHAPTER 01 / 25 Discussion

CNN Tsunami Coverage, Meters in English Quote

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program by mocking mainstream media coverage of a predicted tsunami following a Pacific earthquake. They highlight a specific CNN broadcast where a hostess reportedly asked for a translation of "meters into English." The discussion critiques the sensationalism of 24-hour news cycles and the public's reliance on networks like CNN and Fox News for disaster entertainment.

cnn· tsunami· meters· hawaii· juan de fuca straits· earthquake machine

00:01 Shut up, man! There are definitely regulations in England and the Netherlands for what the insurance companies can do. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's February 28th, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 178. This is no agenda. Monitoring the earthquake machine activity in the Pacific and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in the Republic of California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And waiting for the tsunami on the Juan de Fuca Straits, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yeah, that was just about the funniest thing ever. Yesterday. In the morning to you, John. In the morning.

00:52 Well, let's talk about the funniest thing ever. The tsunami is coming! No, the tsunami is coming! 1104! Well, we can't be exactly sure. This is not exact science. It'll be 1105! Well, it looks like it could be a little bit later. 1115! I was seeing Twitters from people saying, can't wait to get home and watch the tsunami on CNN. It's like... What kind of fools have we turned into? One of the women, well my family was watching it over on the internet, you know, and they said here it comes and I'm saying this is stupid why are you even watching this? So one of the women on CNN, one of the hostesses or whatever they call themselves, she has to quote of the day when she says

01:46 Yeah, she has the quote of the day when she says, what is meters in English? Oh shit, I wish we had that. You got to pull that sound bite. That's amazing. What is meters in American? What a dipshit. Oh, that's mint. That's mint. Oh my goodness. Totally. Yeah. But the Fox, so we ended up watching it on Fox where they had some blonde, typically blonde, I don't know who she is. I've seen her before but I can't remember. They never said her name. And she had, and I got a couple clips of her. She was the dingbat of the decade. It's unbelievable. It was interesting because Fox is- Play the 20 meters. No, no, no. We can't do that yet. We've got to do our executive producers. Okay. I'm just saying.

CHAPTER 02 / 25 Discussion

Fox News Weekend Crew, Chile Earthquake Footage Errors

The hosts deconstruct a Fox News segment regarding the 8.8 magnitude earthquake in Chile, noting the poor quality of the "weekend crew" and producers. They point out a significant error where a news anchor identified "CCTV" as a local TV station rather than closed-circuit television. Furthermore, they highlight that the footage shown featured broad daylight and a full restaurant, despite the earthquake occurring at 3:30 AM local time.

fox news· chile· cctv· earthquake· shep smith· wolf blitzer

02:35 Do you think Fox, no the Fox people, the networks had must have gone apeshit over the fact that this happened on the weekend and they had to use their weekend crew? They had to dip shits, exactly. But it took Fox a little while to get ramped up. They were still doing like, you know, like their pre-packaged C-Span coverage. I guess they didn't want to put the people they actually had scheduled for the weekend on because they're so completely stupid. They had to get the backup stupid crew in. Because CNN was all over it and Fox wasn't doing anything yet. Fox was talking after the tsunami had already come and gone from Hawaii. They were still predicting it was going to happen.

03:19 As you know, these tsunamis come, it's three by three I heard someone say. So it's not the first wave, no it's not the second wave, it's always the third wave, but that could come 12 hours later. I'm like, what? And we literally sat there and we had to go out and do some shopping. It was like 11 o'clock Hawaii time, which is what, 1 o'clock Pacific time. And it's like, okay, we'll wait for five min- no, four minutes. We'll wait for four minutes to see if the tsunami hits. And it's like, and then they're showing file footage of people walking on the beach. It's like, what? This is so incredibly stupid. And it's like, and then you see, ooh, ooh, ooh, then you see, quick, go to another webcam. We have great new technology. It's called Skype. And this is how we're getting all this fantastic footage to you so you can see this live shot of the tsunami coming in.

04:10 Oh, brother. Yeah, CNN was doing the same thing. Before we do the executive producers, we have to do this one thing just to set up the rest of this conversation. You have to play Fox dingbat film just in. Okay, here we go. Sorry, you want to set it up? Let's do a little setup. Well, actually, let's just play it and then I'll deconstruct it. We have some new video coming in right now from Chile of the moment that 8.8 magnitude earthquake struck This was taken inside a restaurant. Take a look at this video. It's just done This is in Chile taken by a local TV station near CCTV and see the restaurant looks like Everything was thrown on the floor people racing out the door the death toll in Chile on the rise

04:56 The country's interior minister confirming 214 people were killed in a massive early morning quake the 8.8 magnitude quake knocking down bridges and houses sending a tsunami racing across the Pacific Waves from that tsunami reaching the shores of Hawaii a short time ago Okay, wait a minute first of all, okay Let me do let me do let me do the obvious one the local TV station known as CCTV right. What an idiot. That's not the best part. That's closed circuit television, you douche. Yeah, somebody's somebody scammed. So that's not the funny part. What time did this did this earthquake hit? Three o'clock in the morning in Chile time.

05:44 3.30 or so. What was a full restaurant doing with people in it at 3.30 in the morning? And when all these people ran outside, it was sunny. It was sunny and nobody, nobody in the entire producers, the woman reading this stupid story, the guy sitting next door, anybody else noticed that this was out in broad daylight? Oh my goodness. It wasn't when the it was no way it was bogus. Yeah, yeah as opposed to all the real reporting they did. So what I'm getting out of this is a Fox the entire staff and crew ran this thing and nobody noticed that it's not sunny at 3 30 in the morning. Well, it's he this is what their unbelievable. Anyway, I was just annoyed by this and in fact, I was annoyed by the fact that Fox

06:42 This is what they you know that they have apparently no quality control whatsoever Well, I think you're right. I think it's painfully obvious that they had the B if not the C team in on the weekend. And these people are just the worst. But it's the same for the producers. The top producers who do Shep Smith in the afternoon or who do the Wolf Blitzer with the Situation Room. They're not working on Saturday. They've got something better to do. I was like, ah, what these people... In fact, I had dinner with... we had dinner with Victoria Recaño last night and I said, oh, I was so happy that there was no tsunami because that would have screwed up our dinner plans. She said, oh, no, no, no, I'm not on call that way. They can't call me in for that kind of stuff. I said, but as a serious newswoman, wouldn't you have wanted to be there? Didn't you? No.

07:35 It was unbelievable. That's a great clip. Let me just play that one more time. That is indeed that real. So first of all, we have the local TV station CCTV, which is like saying Internet Company Linksys. That's basically the ISP Linksys. And yeah, it's 330 in the morning and in a restaurant. Let me hear that again. That was really good. Oh, and by the way, the tsunami racing across the Pacific and has hit the shores of Hawaii. We have some new video coming in right now from Chile of the moment that 8.8 magnitude earthquake struck This was taken inside a restaurant. Take a look at this video. It's just in this is in Chile taken by a local TV station near CCTV and see the restaurant looks like everything was thrown on the floor people racing out the door the death toll in Chile on the rise

CHAPTER 03 / 25 Discussion

Executive Producers, No Agenda App, Knighthood Announcements

Adam Curry acknowledges the executive producers for episode 178, including Adam Burkpile, Marcus Couch, and Michael Knight. Curry apologizes for previous comments regarding the No Agenda iPhone app's payment schedule, noting that Apple is slow to process funds. The segment transitions into the formal knighthood of Michael Knight and mentions associate executive producers Philip Evans and David Dolson.

adam burkpile· marcus couch· michael knight· iphone app· no agenda· donations

08:24 Yeah. Alright, now before we get deeper into this, John, let's just do our executive producer for the episode. Sorry, you got a bunch of them today and We'll start with Mike there's we got three executive producers and they Unfortunately, they the way they're doing accounting nowadays. Everybody wants you know these they want it split up in all kinds of weird ways Adam Burke pile This is Adam Burke pile who is the producer of

09:18 The... No Ad- Pocket No Agenda iPhone App. Right. And he's still mad that you called him out. Well, no, he actually gave us all his water. Now, hold on a second. Let me just go back for a second and say all I was saying was that we've been promoting this app for weeks and weeks. And it turns out that Apple is very slow to pay on these iPhone apps. And I'm Mia Culpa and I said it on the show and I'm really, really, really sorry. So I apologize. So to punish you he gave us all the money except 5 cents or so. And the guy has no job now I feel really bad this is no good this is like shitty. As hell you should. He says half of it goes to the stream donation but the other half which is $333.33

10:08 goes to what he says we should set up which is the Morrell Welfare Recreation Expense Fund which apparently is this slush fund that's used by black workers. Oh yeah, this is what they use for their hookers, yeah. Yeah. So he is an executive producer along with Marcus Couch. Oh really? Whose birthday is on the 28th. Marcus couched 333 33 from Laguna Beach. Yes, I'm very familiar with Marcus. Yeah, Marcus is he's one of our top media producers. That's cool. And have known from the scene scene. Excellent. A second. Yeah, there's a third person for me to go that listens to us.

10:52 And he also says his wife listens to the show and he just, and the message is he really loves his wife and she, so there's a message for her. Anyway, that's a promotion from, he's also doing some promoting on Facebook for us in some way, shape, or form. And then finally, 500, or finally, he's got more. $500 from Mike Menzies who is also now a knight, if you want to play the thing for him. Well, hold on. Do we have any other nights or is this it? Yeah, we've got some more. Okay, well then let's do the knighthoods in a moment. Okay, he says he's the first Michael Knight, which is an interesting pun. Yes. So he gave us 500 bucks and so those are the three executive producers and then the associate executive producer is, we have two. Philip Evans from Las Vegas, lost wages. Yeah.

11:50 250 bucks and $203.33 David Dolson from Houston, Texas and he says he was called out by RJ as a douchebag and he's giving us money and he wants us to say he's not a douchebag. Okay, you are not a douchebag. So he's not a douchebag. And he's not, okay. A bunch of people, you know, this douchebag meme is unnerving. But maybe I'm encouraging it by reading these messages. What do you think? I don't know. It doesn't really matter to me. Apparently. It's funny when we have this, the amount of latency is actually quite astonishing. Well, no, I've started to clear it up. I found out what was going on.

12:37 So it should be it should be better now, but I don't like it when we have latency. That's it's very disturbing Yeah, cuz I say something to you and then I wait I'm thinking what is it we disconnected well hold on let's test it five four three two one two three come on say it with me now one two three three four five one two three four five seven Alright, I want to thank Adam Burkpile, Marcus Couch as our executive producers for episode 178. Our associate executive producers, Philip Evans and David Dolson. Your contributions are not only appreciated, but you know that this kind of karma will get you jobs. You left out Marcus Couch. I know, I said Adam Burkpile, Marcus Couch as our executive producers. Oh, then Michael Knight is the other one. I was getting to it.

13:30 But is Michael Knight is he an executive producer for the show or is it just receiving a knighthood a both? Oh, holy crap my mistake Maya culpa. I'm sorry there we go. I was just Corrected on Twitter as I did my main Mia culpa. It's Mia Mia culpa look. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm really sorry I apologize let's get to the knighthoods John Well, we've got, by the way, there's somebody out there that's a knight that I lost track of in my email box. Please email me at johnatdvorak.org with the, in the subject line, use the word knight. In fact, if anybody's getting, doing a self, kind of a self accounting for knighthood, please use the word knight in all caps in the subject line.

CHAPTER 04 / 25 Discussion

No Agenda Knight Rings, Tungsten Design Concept

The hosts discuss the development of official No Agenda Knight rings following positive listener feedback. They debate materials, moving away from expensive 18-carat gold toward 10-carat gold or tungsten. The concept involves a seal ring design that could be used to press the show's insignia into wax or other surfaces.

knighthood· seal ring· tungsten· gold· hema underwear· branding

14:15 So, this week, I mean this Sunday we have Michael Knight and someone else, but we'll have to put them on next week. Alright, great John. I need a secretary. As usual, your administration is just fantastic. Okay, Mike Knight, come before us, kneel, as we now officially knight thee. Michael Knight. Please enjoy the hookers and blow of the No Agenda Knights of the Round Table. Cool. Hey, you know what? I got so many good responses about the idea of a knighthood ring. I think we have to do it. No, I'm telling you. I'm receiving emails from everyone saying, oh man, I'd become a knight just to get the ring.

15:03 Alright, well I guess we have to do the ring now. Well I sent you like a couple links of stuff to look at and you didn't respond to it because you think it's a stupid idea. No I don't think it's a stupid idea, I think it's a wonderful concept. Okay, great. Well let's get on it already. I mean, you know, and a good ring... Which should be a seal ring, right? That you can press into wax or heat up and press into someone's face. Either one. So if you punch them you will be found and arrested. Yeah, so it should be in a mirror image. So that it really shows up. Let's really do this, okay? Let's not have this be like the...

15:40 The HEMA underwear. I mean, this is actually something we can do. No, we can do this. The HEMA underwear is impossible. Yeah. Too many... there's size considerations, what kind of underwear do people wear, and eh. Yeah. This is actually doable, and I think we have to get on to it. Okay. We're going to do it. And we do have a designer that's, you know, doing some stuff, and we'll have a... eventually get a perfect design. And it should be of gold. Maybe 10-carat gold, but it should be of gold. Because I looked at the prices and like 18 karat gold was like, I don't think so. It's like half the knighthood donation right there. No, but I think it'd be cool. I'd wear it. I'd wear my knight ring. It's awesome, man. I think it should be made of tungsten. Now that's a really good idea.

CHAPTER 05 / 25 Discussion

Tsunami Terminology, Bathtub Tidal Wave Folklore

A discussion on the linguistic shift from "tidal wave" to "tsunami" leads to an anecdote about checking bathtubs for sewer blowback during coastal events in Rhode Island. The hosts also discuss the logarithmic nature of the Richter scale, noting the massive power difference between magnitude 6 and 8 earthquakes. They observe how media outlets like Fox News framed Chile's preparedness relative to the recent disaster in Haiti.

tidal wave· tsunami· rhode island· sewer system· logarithmic scale· hawaii

16:28 You know there are people who are rock people who have said no agenda tungsten as hard as a rock it's better than viagra and cost a lot more must be somebody that makes tungsten rings oh i'm sure we can find somebody all right let's get back to our uh to our program all right so so this whole soon first of all i don't want to downplay the tragedy that of course took place in in chile by the way i learned on cnn uh... that the official pronunciation is here now just one of those things as a white and here it is who i think you know what how i think it so uh... well let's get back to the did this basic uh... discussion of the way this was handled you might wanna play the bathtub clip okay if i have it

17:22 Cut right. Okay, ready you set up or we go straight into it. Let go straight in Pulling back in moving back in towards the other direction So it's kind of a big bathtub that sloshes all of this water moves towards one direction and back towards the other before eventually evens out you know before you continue is interesting my mom was in the She always called it the tidal wave of Rhode Island when she was a kid and I'm not quite sure what that's in reference to, but I remember she'd always tell me that as a kid she remembers opening up the basement door and the water was coming all the way up into the kitchen. But what you have to do is if there's a... and of course back in the day we called it tidal waves, not tsunamis. I think we should bring the tidal wave back. I like it. It's a good sounding name. Yeah, tidal wave is just... what, tsunami or tidal wave? I like tidal wave. Tidal wave. Yeah, tidal wave is nicer.

18:18 And she said what you had to do is you had to check the bathtub. You had to fill up the bathtub and then if... No, wait a minute. You check the bathtub to see if there was water in the bathtub because apparently the sewer system would like blow back or something. Oh, yeah, that could happen. That was like a real old school way of checking to see if the tidal wave had hit yet. So anyway, so anyway, so what's so? So let me go to the next clip, which is this dingbat woman who was watching CCTV at you know in that noon And and this is the kind of coverage that we have at Fox and Fox News. This is the 20 hours later clip This is this woman who just sounds like an idiot and that shows you how dangerous and how powerful they are

19:05 Because Rick is saying 20 hours later that wave is still rippling across the Pacific which is very scary 20 hours later unreal unreal 20 hours later This thing is like in the whole ocean for 20 hours is bumping around it's just astonishing to listen to these people no, it was quite amazing and I I also, I was just following, I couldn't help myself from following the media. I had one, I have two flat screens. One was going with CNN, the other one with Fox. And I was watching that HawaiiTsunami.com which had the Ustream feed, which then I saw on CNN and Fox. It was amazing. It was like a whole mirrored system.

19:52 Yeah, I did the same thing because my wife was watching the US stream thing and then I said, this is stupid. I got out of the room and went and turned on CNN to catch all this other stuff and it was the same thing. It was the same camera. By the way, we had, I don't think we have it anymore, but we had a sling box in Hawaii and we should have just tuned that in. Oh crap, I forgot all about that. Well, it didn't matter because they were showing all the local Hawaii stations and CNN was then bringing in CNN Chile so we could see, of course we couldn't understand anything. It was just like one big, it was crazy. And by the way, Chile has a lot of earthquakes.

20:40 And they do know what to do. And they are kind of prepared. I don't think you can ever be prepared for an 8.8. And this is also one of these things that's kind of misunderstood. You know, the difference between a 6 and an 8 is like huge. I mean, it's logarithmic, right? It's a lot more power than just two points more. Yes, I think for example between a one and a two is ten times more powerful. Now the funny thing is we're watching the crawler on Fox and we were, you know, my son was thinking, well let's see where we get into the racist angle. Based on, you know, Haiti compared to Chile and they're all dead in Haiti. And didn't get any really good stuff except there was one crawler moment where it comes by and it says,

CHAPTER 06 / 25 Discussion

Earthquake Machine Theory, US-China Proxy War Claims

Adam Curry posits a theory that the Chile earthquake was an intentional act of "earthquake machine" warfare between the United States and China. He cites a 7.3 magnitude quake in Okinawa near US Marine bases as a Chinese provocation, followed by a US retaliation against Chile to disrupt Chinese copper interests. The theory references UN charters regarding environmental modification and the strategic importance of Iran to Chinese resource security.

earthquake machine· china· okinawa· chile· haarp· copper mines· iran

21:30 Chile is well a wealthier country. So there'll be less deaths and it's then it said and it's infinitely more prepared Which was just an interesting usage because how you can be more prepared than you were they were in Haiti, but infinite How do you get to be infinitely more prepared? Yeah Again, the weekend crew. Yeah words matter. It's interns. It's absolutely interns running the show on the weekend well anyway, so There's a whole piece missing to this story and I'm just going to throw a theory out there which a lot of people are going to go, in fact you'll probably go, oh brother. But there's a timeline to all of this. About four hours before the quake hit Chile, there was a 7.3 magnitude quake on the Okinawa Islands. Did you hear about this quake at all?

22:27 I can't say that I have. Okay. Do you know what is on the Okinawa Islands? Do you even know where the Okinawa Islands are? Yeah, they're out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Well, they're kind of in between... They're out in the middle of nowhere, but they're in between kind of the coast of Japan and... They're kind of halfway between Japan and China, if you think about it. And this is where we had... Japan and what? China. China... I don't think they're between... Are they between Japan and China? I thought they were in the Pacific. On the other side of Japan. Yes, on the... No, no, no, they're up to the north of Japan. No. Yeah, go look at Google Earth.

23:10 It's kind of irrelevant for the story. To the theory, go ahead. So this is... Yeah, that's where they are. Yeah, this is... Thank you. For a second there I'm like, oh crap, I'm sounding like a douchebag already. I had it all wrong. No, I looked at this specifically. I was really... And in fact, it's... You know, you have to realize that it's the other side of the Pacific. So we have two sides of the Pacific. We have... Because, you know, a lot of people think West to East. It's like, oh, you know, you have to, so it's South America and it's all the way around the other side. No, it's basically on the right-hand side of the Pacific, if you look at the globe, that's where we have the coast of Chile, and on the left-hand side, that's where we have these Okinawa Islands. And the Okinawa Islands,

23:51 We have eight marine bases there 20,000 US troops on the Okinawa Island so of course there's no news coming out of this quake which you know there were a couple news reports not a mention at all on CNN or Fox and not a single mention they send out Japan sent out tsunami warnings of course this was really in the middle of the night and it was a couple hours before the Chile quake and 7.3 although no 8.8 is definitely not a quake to be messed with. This is a real ass quake. Yeah. Okay.

24:28 So here's the way I see it. CNN has it in their storyline. Oh at this century they had one on the 15th too of January. Well, I have to say there's you know, just as in Chile, there's lots of quakes. But if you were to go to Google Earth and you have the layer for the USGCS whatever it is, the United States Geological Society, whatever. Survey. Survey. You'll see that you'll see the amount of red dots around the coast of Chile there. It's just unbelievable. There must be 40 of them. So here's what I think happened. I gotta think that you know there's been a lot of the first and first of all you have to really and you have to set your rational thinking aside to really open up to this concept. There is a real problem between the United States and China right now and there's a lot under the hood stuff that's barely being discussed is you know the saber rattling towards Iran is intensifying.

25:28 big time and of course this is not this is really a proxy middle finger to China because Iran supplies large amounts of resources to China including a lot of their oil and the US as we know as I at least as I know flipped on the earthquake machine to grab a hold of Haiti and And if you think there's only one earthquake machine, and let me just remind you in previous shows, previous show notes, we have shown you documentation from the United Nations, from the US Secretary of Defense, US Secretary of State, where they talk specifically about nations having earthquake machines, and the UN and their charters like, hey, we'll all agree not to turn on the earthquake machine against each other. So I'm not really making all of this stuff up. It's highly likely that this exists.

26:18 A lot of people say it's a combination of chemtrails and harp. No matter how it works, I believe that this exists and I do think it was turned on in Haiti and I believe that China is basically saying Hey, you know what? Screw you guys. Watch this. They flip on their earthquake machine. They point it right at... and by the way, they don't give a crap about the Japanese. So they pointed... You smell what Barack is cooking? So they turn their earthquake machine on. They point it at the Okinawa Islands, which is a direct attack on the United States. There being 20,000 Marines there with eight bases, a very historic set of islands if you think of Iwo Jima.

26:57 So they give them a little jolt and then the Americans say, oh yeah, you think that's funny? And they blast Chile, which as I've in the research, which will show on the show notes, just signed a huge deal and open up a new copper mine with China. The copper mines are shut down. They had to shut them down. This is an all-out earthquake machine war between the US and China. This is supposed to go after we do the solicitation for donations. This is crazy stuff. No, this is not crazy stuff. You'll see all of the links in the show notes under earthquake machine wars. And there are reports coming in that before the earthquake in Chile,

CHAPTER 07 / 25 Discussion

HAARP Technology, Sky Color Changes, Planet Earth Weaponry

Freelance journalist Cecilia Lago's report of the sky changing colors during the Santiago earthquake is used as evidence for HAARP-induced seismic activity. Curry argues that such atmospheric phenomena only occur during induced quakes involving energy bounced off the ionosphere. The segment references Rosalie Bartel’s book, "Planet Earth: The Latest Weapon of War," and suggests the UK may have influenced seismic events to protect oil interests in the Falkland Islands.

haarp· cecilia lago· ionosphere· rosalie bartel· tesla· falkland islands· argentina

27:46 Here, let me play the YouTube video for you. This is a reporter on the ground coming in through Skype and she gives us a very important piece of information which is related to the HAARP antenna array which I believe causes these earthquakes. Just like in In Haiti, where there were reports of this taking place, just as in the Chizwan earthquake in China 30 minutes before the earthquake hit, she saw the sky changing colors. Listen very carefully, it kind of slips by in this report, but that is always a giveaway. Live from Santiago, Chile via Skype is freelance journalist Cecilia Lago. Cecilia, good morning to you. Let's get the very latest from your vantage point. What are you seeing and what did you feel earlier today?

28:30 Well, good afternoon here. It's 1 10 p.m. Here in Chile and this whole thing happened at our time was 3 30 a.m. In the morning. I was sleeping. Of course, here and by the way, she slipped in and in the morning, which I appreciated the country. And all of a sudden I started feeling this tremor and since we are really used to tremors because this is a land of earthquakes, just as in Central America is a land of hurricanes and tornadoes, for example, this is a land of earthquakes and tremors. So I just said to myself, okay, I'm not going to do anything until it gets really serious. And well, it did get serious, but I still was laying in bed.

29:13 I was just so shocked because it was totally paralyzed. I didn't really know what to do because I was expecting all of a sudden, you know, seeing my neighbor maybe getting through from the roof to my floor. It was so, so intense and I was seeing the sky changing colors and it was really sort of apocalypse now thing. There you go sky changing colors apocalypse now kind of thing. John you've been around the the west coast of the United States for a while you've been through. That girl sounds like she's 11 years old but ain't no I think she's 13. But have you ever seen the sky change color before an earthquake? No. No of course not because this only happens when it's induced

30:02 through huge amounts of energy being bounced off the ionosphere. So what does China have? They don't have one of these Harper rays? Of course they do, it's not that hard. But they turn their Harper... Of course they've got Harper rays, what are you talking about? They're more advanced, they've got trains that go five times faster than ours. They can't put up a couple of antennas? This is technology from a hundred years ago. This is Tesla type stuff. This is not who by the way proved that he had an earthquake machine. I'm not, you know, and I see the chat room people going like, oh, this is where Adam kills the credibility of the show. First of all, thanks for giving us any credibility at all. I kind of appreciate that. Yeah, really, that's pretty cool. Yeah, we had credibility. I had something to wreck. But this is not beyond the realm of possibility. It really isn't.

30:52 And you know, the internet of course is awash with these theories right now. But go look at the Google Earth, turn on the UGCS layer so you can see all these spots. This is not just one earthquake. And they call them aftershocks? Yeah, aftershocks my ass. They had 40 quakes. They just kept zapping and zapping and zapping away. And I got to tell you, you have to hear Chile and China make huge investments to increase copper production. Positive progress made at China-Chile FTA talks on investment agreement. You know, this is not coincidence. It really isn't. Coincidence? I think not! Codelco boosted copper output for the first time since 2004.

31:39 I mean there's a very strong tie between Chile and China. And let me just add to that, that Chile and Argentina of course lie right next to each other. And Argentina is back in the heated discussion with the United Kingdom, Gitmo Nation East, about the Falklands. I don't know if you read about this. I put a link in the show notes as well. It's heating up again for some reason. Yeah, well, and there was a war in 1982 over this very same piece of land which the Brits say is theirs, the Argentinians say no, it's theirs, but now there's like oil ships going down to go drill in the Falkland Islands and maybe, just maybe, it's not inconceivable Reptilian Brown gave a little call and said, hey,

32:24 You know, you guys plan anything? Because, you know, give an extra jolt for me because these guys are pissing me off. We want to go down there and drill for some oil. And so it could have been just a little, a little nudge in the ribs there towards Argentina as well. It's just not beyond the realm of possibility. You don't have to believe me. Do your own research. Google Harp. Look around. A good start in the show notes at noagendershow.com. And, oh, and by the way, the US and Japan had just completed a bilateral exercise in the Okinawa Islands the day before. You know, all this stuff just kind of is all just a little coincidental. The sky turns all different kinds of colors like apocalypse now, which it never happens during an earthquake unless it's induced.

33:09 So, there's a book people might want to look at called Planet Earth, the latest weapon of war by Rosalie Bartel. It was written in 2000 and it's actually probably something if you read, I actually should be recommending stuff like this for you, but it seems to have the same basic premise. Well John you can't deny that I found plenty of documents that talk about this very stuff. No, no I'm not going to argue with the documentation. There's documentation although you know which is weird documentation. Screwy. I don't understand why they would, you know, I don't know what they're thinking. I mean this is the UN. Well. Anyway look at this book. Go to, here put this in the show notes. I'll give you a link to it.

34:00 I think this is the original, this was done in the year 2000 out of London, and it's the original purveyor of the earthquake machine theory. Earthquake wars. Yeah, oh, it's actually called earthquake wars? No, it's called planet earth the latest weapon of war. Oh, there we go, Rosalie Bertel, all things are connected. Planet Earth the latest weapons of war perfect let me put that in the show notes right now No, I mean yeah, you know what at least I'm not the only crazy person We'll see where this goes. I mean, when we have the big quake, which they could target Los Angeles and just flatten the place, but I think the Chinese don't want to hurt their balance of trade. No, no, they don't want to do that. This is all by proxy. And don't forget that this Iranian thing is all about China. By the way, what was your prediction of where the next quake was going to be? Canary Islands. Well, you lost the bet. You owe me a hundred bucks. First of all, I don't think we bet for any money.

35:02 Second of all, you know, it's still, we're still not out of the woods on that. You know, it's like, dude, what am I? Like Nostradamus? I mean, give me a break. I'm just the guy who's doing the research, spending my whole weekend looking at this stuff. You know, I already went through one divorce because of this crap. You know, despite opposition from the International Union of Astronomers, the US military even put 350 million copper needles into orbit. For what? Bartel says some scientists believe may have upset the balance of the planetary magnetic field causing a massive 8.5 Alaskan earthquake and losing

CHAPTER 08 / 25 Discussion

Haiti Reconstruction, Private Military Contractors, Oil Extraction

The discussion shifts to the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake, focusing on the "Haiti Summit" organized by the International Peace Operations Association (IPOA). The hosts suggest the earthquake provided a pretext for private military contractors and oil companies to seize Haitian resources. They claim UN "blue helmets" were previously guarding no-go zones intended for oil drilling before the disaster occurred.

haiti· ipoa· blackwater· jeremy scahill· oil· united nations

34:00 I think this is the original, this was done in the year 2000 out of London, and it's the original purveyor of the earthquake machine theory. Earthquake wars. Yeah, oh, it's actually called earthquake wars? No, it's called planet earth the latest weapon of war. Oh, there we go, Rosalie Bertel, all things are connected. Planet Earth the latest weapons of war perfect let me put that in the show notes right now No, I mean yeah, you know what at least I'm not the only crazy person We'll see where this goes. I mean, when we have the big quake, which they could target Los Angeles and just flatten the place, but I think the Chinese don't want to hurt their balance of trade. No, no, they don't want to do that. This is all by proxy. And don't forget that this Iranian thing is all about China. By the way, what was your prediction of where the next quake was going to be? Canary Islands. Well, you lost the bet. You owe me a hundred bucks. First of all, I don't think we bet for any money.

35:02 Second of all, you know, it's still, we're still not out of the woods on that. You know, it's like, dude, what am I? Like Nostradamus? I mean, give me a break. I'm just the guy who's doing the research, spending my whole weekend looking at this stuff. You know, I already went through one divorce because of this crap. You know, despite opposition from the International Union of Astronomers, the US military even put 350 million copper needles into orbit. For what? Bartel says some scientists believe may have upset the balance of the planetary magnetic field causing a massive 8.5 Alaskan earthquake and losing

35:47 Chili part of its coast yet. She shows that such experiments are small beer compared to what is being done today? You know what, so I'm crazy right and I'm completely nuts and... No you're right there are people that are crazier. Yes and I said that the Haiti was a takeover it was a complete militaristic operation they just happened to be there they flip on the earthquake machine boom we're in and now I can actually say... Next month, a prominent umbrella organization for private military and logistic corporations, the International Peace Operations Association, IPOA, is co-organizing a Haiti summit which aims to bring together leading officials for, quote, private consultations with attending contractors and investors. Dubbed the Mercenary Trade Association,

36:44 by journalist Jeremy Shahil, author of Blackwater, The Rise of the World. The IPOA wasted no time setting up a Haiti earthquake support page on its website. They're moving in, John. They're moving in to go grab the oil. Another link from in the show notes. Question, did American petroleum companies murder hundreds of thousands of Haitians while extracting oil from their shores? It turns out that the UN was actually in Haiti. These are the guys with the blue helmets you saw walking around. They were actually protecting all of these sites, all of these no-go zones where the Haitians had to stay away from, where they were drilling for oil.

37:24 They were getting ready for it, then they probably struck, they needed to take over and Bada-bing! Flip the switch and we're in! We told you so! Well, it did work out to their advantage. To say the least. Alright, end of my rant. So I feel really bad for what's happened, uh... in Chile. That's horrible that people go through an earthquake, but I'm just not buying that this is coincidental and just pops up. There's too much evidence that plays into my theory. The only problem you have is not unlike Haiti, which has rare earthquakes. This place has them all the time. Not quite like this though.

38:10 They had a 9 recently of some sort. There were 40 quakes, 40! No, they're always in clusters if you look at the USGS stuff. This is not a cluster! John, John, John, it's a cluster of 600 miles? 600 miles up and down the coast. It's not a cluster. It's a total cluster. Go to the USGS California map and see how many quakes we're just having constantly. Okay. Hey, you know what? You know what? At least one thing's really good. All the people who couldn't get in on the Help for Haiti single, they can get in on the Help for Chile single. So we can sing along. I don't think we're going to give them any help. Well, the president came out right away and also said, oh, be careful of a tsunami. We even had warnings on the west coast of California. Crazy.

CHAPTER 09 / 25 Discussion

Jenny McCarthy, Time Magazine Hit Piece, Autism Controversy

The hosts examine a Time Magazine article regarding Jenny McCarthy and her stance on the link between childhood vaccines and autism. They discuss her son's diagnosis and her use of chelation therapy to treat mercury exposure. The segment introduces the idea that the media is attempting to silence McCarthy's advocacy for alternative vaccination schedules.

jenny mccarthy· time magazine· autism· vaccines· mmr· chelation therapy

39:03 You never used to hear about tsunamis after an earthquake, ever. You never heard about them. And then all of a sudden it started cropping up. And the thing is, when they hit and kill people, there's never any warning. Because that's actually Mother Earth really doing it. You know, here they're like, alright, listen, we gotta flip the switch, we gotta turn the machine on, better warn everybody, because you know, sometimes it can trigger a tsunami. I'm just saying. Are you done? I'm done. Alright, well what else happened? Well, where do you want to start? Got some interesting... I do have a, you know, Jenny McCarthy showed up in the news again in this end, you know, apparently they've decided to shut her up because of their anti-vaccinations thing. And so there was actually a hit piece done in Time Magazine.

39:52 And when we have some time in the show I would like to deconstruct it so listeners out there can understand how a hit piece is written and what to look for when you find one. I have the whole article completely deconstructed. Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that. So just the background is Jenny McCarthy has an autistic son And she's been a champion for coming out and saying that she believes it has something to do with the amount of vaccines given to our children. I don't think she specifically singled one out, although the article states that she singled out the MMR vaccine. But I've seen her speak about this many times and the words coming out of her mouth are, hey, you know, maybe it's not such a good idea to be giving our kids 21 different vaccinations before they're two years old. Maybe we should slow that down a little bit.

40:39 And she's been, you know, and of course she's called a crackpot and like, oh, you know, the typical things come out saying, oh, what about smallpox? And she never actually said you shouldn't have any vaccines. She's saying that there should be some studies and this is clearly, she feels there's a link. And she started support groups for parents who have autistic children. And this is something that's been discussed a lot. There's definitely some validity to her arguments at least. Maybe not to the science, but to our arguments. And what was interesting is I received

41:15 And I think this is how the hit piece kind of works. I received emails from people saying, oh, look at this. And it would be some article that is essentially copied a few quotes from the Time Magazine article. And it says, well, Jenny McCarthy, even though her son actually has a different disease, She's backpedaling and all that. I'm like, what? And so I went and read the Time article and the actual facts are quite different. Yeah, no kidding. I don't know that she's backpedaling or anything, but do you have the name of that thing her son supposedly has?

41:55 Yeah, I'll pull up the Time article. It was a rare disease. But anyway, the thing is about that particular, it's a kind of a syndrome or something like... It's not autism, it's something else. It's an aphasia issue where you when apparently kids went between the ages of depending on what you read between the ages of three and seven or five and seven they have this aphasia where they start to lose their ability to speak and then they get kind of you know autistic-like but they can be brought out of it and so they've concluded now that McCarthy's kid had this because he seems to be out of it and she claims that the reason he's out of it is because she gave him chelation therapy to get the mercury out of his system.

42:39 which is a thermosol or whatever it's called. It's in vaccines. It's in most vaccines. It's a preservative, so the vaccines have a longer shelf life. And that she claims that's what cured him when in fact, since you gave him so much, if he had this other thing, this aphasia, he would have been cured pretty much by all the attention that he got. So, but so they did this hit piece on her uh... written by interesting character is a writer called and then a good writer by the way if you need a hit piece call him up carl taro greenfield whose brother is like forty years old and autistic and is uh... apparently uh... a burden on the family of some you know obviously and you'd think that he'd have some sympathy but he seems to be unsympathetic toward mccarthy

CHAPTER 10 / 25 Discussion

Media Deconstruction, Carl Taro Greenfield, Hit Piece Techniques

John C. Dvorak deconstructs the specific rhetorical techniques used by writer Carl Taro Greenfield in the Time Magazine profile of Jenny McCarthy. He identifies "poisoning the well" through descriptors like "corn-fed cute" and "foul-mouthed." Dvorak also highlights the inclusion of Dr. Paul Offit, characterizing him as a pharmaceutical industry "stooge" for Merck who lacks objectivity in the vaccine debate.

carl taro greenfield· time magazine· journalism· merck· paul offit· hit piece

43:35 and he just goes off with a standard formulaic hit piece and then just point out a few things you should look for if you're gonna take a look at stuff like this. First of all, you have to look for adjectives and language and also the first paragraph compared to the second, third, and fourth. The first paragraph is always a, what I call poisoning the well. In other words, you set the piece up with a first paragraph that has just innuendo and kind of established the fact that the person you're gonna be hitting is either an idiot or there's something wrong with them. Or they're not credible. And in this case, let me read the first sentence. In person, surprisingly, Jenny McCarthy... Oh, stop right there. Surprisingly. Boom. Stop. That's it. That's one. But the one that really got me is in person, surprisingly, Jenny McCarthy comes across as a corn-fed cute rather than overwhelmingly beautiful. She comes across as corn-fed cute. Corn-fed cute is like to tell... It's essentially telling you that she's an idiot.

44:38 It refers to the Midwest, which everybody who reads Time Magazine knows that everybody in the Midwest is an idiot. And she's, you know, she may be pretty, but she's corn-fed cute, which sounds endearing, but it's actually a negative concept. Then he goes on and says, she has a common touch, which means that she's uneducated. But then he does say that she can connect. When McCarthy meets a mom, when she spits forth, this is right from the article, when she spits forth a stream of profanity and common sense,

45:13 That tells you one thing, she's like crude. Then he continues with this graph or with this sentence, the foul-mouthed comedian from Chicago never is far from the surface. No, it is the foul-mouthed comedian from Chicago is never far from the surface, meaning that underneath McCarthy, no matter what you think, she's still this horrible person. and then he kind of soft pedals it at the end of the sentence going on about you know she did there should be some sympathy for her but the fact is he's already introduced the fact that she's stupid and crude and you put that in right at the beginning so the rest of the article as you read it you have this lurking in the background of your brain redefining whatever the guy says then he goes on with some interesting jabs and by the way this

46:02 this syndrome that the kid supposedly had, he seems to have picked it up before anybody else has ever done it. Yeah, it's the first time I ever read about it. Yeah. He puts out a couple of more, he puts out a couple of light paragraphs and he comes up with a coinage. He says McCarthy's way, however, is one that flies in the face of all credible research on what does and what does not cause autism and whether it can be treated. And then he's got the classic word that you use when you're really trying to give it to somebody. McCarthy claims Evan was healed through a range of experimental and unproved biomedical treatments.

46:40 When you use the word claims, this is like a loaded word. You're supposed to use the word says. McCarthy says Evan was healed. Or you can say McCarthy believes Evan was healed, which is actually the most accurate word. I'm so glad you're doing this, John, because people don't realize how important words are and how much they matter. And of course, we're an entire generation of poor readers And this is really important and by the way this is Time Magazine. You know, these guys are supposed to be on the leading edge of the journalistic tip. Am I mistaken? No, they're supposed to be objective in the whole thing. But when you're using a word, anytime anybody out there reads the word claims, that means that the writer does not believe or thinks the person is out and out wrong and is deluded.

47:33 If she said McCarthy believes would be all, I could live with that even though that is slanted. Says is the word that should be used. But anyway, then he goes, I noticed another word here when he says unproved biomedical treatments. He should have used the word if he was being objective, experimental biomedical treatments, not unproved. There's a big difference between saying it's an experimental treatment, which is most of the stuff that she does, as opposed to unproved, which makes it sound like she's just going off of any flaky thing she comes up with. And wouldn't it, by the way, just to be grammatically correct, wouldn't it be unproven? Yeah. Okay.

48:09 My two cents. I just helped with your deconstruction. I feel good now. Yeah. Anyway, so that's kind of a couple of shots. I've looked at some other just some other usages later on in the next graph he uses anti-scientific clamor of the McCarthy camp, which is another just an out and out slam. McCarthy camp. Nice. Yeah, but they aren't anti-scientific too. I mean, there's a lot of it is scientific. I mean, it's not anti-scientific per se. And then he finishes off the next graph with this interesting little, just to make sure you get back in the mood.

48:48 This makes McCarthy much worse than a crank. She's a menace to public health. Oh my God. I guess he couldn't take it. Then you go to the next one where he does a summary. By the way, this next graph, if you're going to look, if anybody wants to play along, the next graph actually should end the article, although the article goes on for five more pages. But essentially it ends here and the rest of it goes into background. And I'm going to read this because it's very funny. McCarthy's emergence, and he's got a dash here, the playmate turned pseudoscientist, the fart joke teller cum mother warrior can make one feel nostalgic for the time when celebs turned up on talk shows only to hawk their flicks or books, not to promote explosive public health ideas.

49:37 But McCarthy says she is speaking the truth, her truth, which essentially, if you guy wanted to be honest about it, as a PC, might as well just said her bullshit. Anyway, that's actually where the article should have ended, but it goes on and on. It goes on, yeah. It keeps going, and stuff like... And it goes on with a lot of background stuff that's kind of interesting. It starts to become a hit piece again. They figure if you read it this long, you might as well start putting some slams in there. But the most interesting thing in here about halfway through the piece... is this paragraph which I consider a planted paragraph. Her critics however describe that that as a false hope about you know hope. Paul Offit the chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia has been outspoken in decrying the anti-vaccine movement and various alternative autism treatments in his best-selling book Autism's False Prophets. He categorically condemns McCarthy's messages not fair to these parents on and off. This guy would

50:37 Now the writer should have disclaimed this guy saying this guy is a major stooge for Merck. He is a vaccine designer for of all vaccines the rotavirus vaccine which nobody needs and he is a spokesperson for vaccinations. In fact, apparently in one of his comments, we have a link to the show notes by the way that talks about this character, one of his comments would say kids can get a hundred vaccines at once. You know, so first of all, I know Jenny McCarthy. I've worked with her for about a year at MTV and I find her to be a very honest, very fun, very warm, very loving person. Not at all a showbiz ditz. Very impressive, huge personality. Haven't seen her for many, many years, but when I see her on television, I'm like, oh, that's Jenny McCarthy. She's actually being herself.

CHAPTER 11 / 25 Discussion

Cannabis Psychosis Study, Pharmaceutical Funding Bias

A study from the University of Queensland linking long-term cannabis use to psychosis is scrutinized for potential bias. The hosts reveal that the lead researcher, John McGrath, and the university have received millions in pharmaceutical grants. They argue that drug companies fund such research to prevent the legalization of marijuana, which competes with their products for treating nausea and other medical issues.

cannabis· marijuana· university of queensland· john mcgrath· psychosis· pharmaceutical grants

51:29 So I'm glad you deconstructed that, John. And I think the most interesting thing to move into the next topic is that the author put in this stooge from Merck because I came across, and this links right into some weird reports we've been seeing about people freaking out after smoking weed, which is totally new to me and I do have some personal experience. I'd say. Yeah. From the Agent French Press. Washington, the longer people use cannabis or marijuana the more likely they are to experience hallucinations or delusions or to suffer psychosis according to a study released on Saturday. So first of all, I smoked for a long time. I was a waking baker all the way until sleepy time and you know what? You actually, it's weird with marijuana. You have to start smoking less to get the same effects as when you first started smoking it and I have never

52:30 experienced hallucinations, delusions, I've always been kind of delusional and I do not believe I've suffered from psychosis and I quit cold turkey and I'm still kind of the same idiot. So of course I look into this study and I'm like well this is interesting. The research was led by John McGrath from the University of Queensland in Australia. And it was based on a survey of 3,800 people, average age of 20.1 years. So I start looking into this guy who has received millions of dollars in pharmaceutical grants. And then you look at the University of Queensland. Australia who are very proud on their website say hey here's what we've done we invented the human papillomavirus cervical cancer vaccine we test developed and diagnosed Australia's first swine flu victim these guys are 100% pharmaceutical funded researchers

53:27 And then you read this report, but there's no disclaimer in the news report about who's funding this research, what the study is for, and this happens all the time. This is inexcusable. We can't be reading stuff without having some knowledge about the background of the writer. This is like a common thing that people have been complaining about. I mean, you listen to editors, there was somebody recently in one of the big papers at the New York Times, as a matter of fact, going on about, well, I don't think they need to have a bio or anything. We don't need to know anything about them. They're going to write their objective stuff. and you know this is a big confusing uh... now i think so i mean these guys the problem is who's gonna write the uh... the bio because you know the guy's gonna i mean it's like this character that's other guys just get off of wikipedia because that's all fair honest and balanced

54:15 I wonder how much stuff is taken off by this. It's just ridiculous that the news reporters not only disclaim what they're up to, but the background of these people that are making all these commentaries. I mean, for this anti-marijuana thing, I'm absolutely sure there's a battle going on right now. Pharmaceutical companies do not want marijuana to be legalized because it does do a world of good to people who have medical issues, especially with nausea. and they just don't want this stuff out there because it's going to hurt their business. The bottom line is it's going to suffer somehow. Well this is clearly a press release. No, but these are just press releases. It's like the weekend crew at AFP. It's like, oh, here's another press release. I'll turn this into a news story and I'll have done my job for the day. Press releases. Well, we should just do press releases for our show.

55:10 And by the way, the guy who wrote this Time Magazine article, who doesn't seem too sympathetic about the whole thing, he's got an interesting background. He, as a child, he kept moving from major city to major city to major city around the world, and he still does, and then he had a little gig, a little stint at the Paris Review, which, if you do the research, was founded as a cover for a CIA guy. I'll go figure. You know, there's such a big game going on that we're not a part of. It's just troubling. You have to see it's like what you know, you just let's assume that your theory about the Obama versus the CIA is, you know, similar to the China versus the US and the rest of it. But the Obama CIA thing, I still can't figure out

CHAPTER 12 / 25 Discussion

Anthrax Vaccine Contract, Heroin Contamination, CIA Tensions

The Obama administration's $150 million no-bid contract for anthrax vaccines is linked to reports of anthrax-tainted heroin appearing in Europe. The hosts discuss the possibility that weaponized anthrax from Afghanistan contaminated drug shipments. They speculate on a "CIA war" where the administration is preparing for biological threats potentially facilitated by intelligence agency activities in the Middle East.

anthrax· obama· afghanistan· heroin· farm aten· biodefense

56:03 you know who's you know besides the fact that there's a turf war going on and Ron Paul thinks the CIA have taken over the country and there's a turf war of some sort I just can't when you see something that comes out that might be planted by one side or the other sometimes it's hard to figure out who planted it from which side and what what's the point? Well it's funny you bring that up because the Obama administration just basically gifted a huge Democratic donor and lobbyist with a $150 million no-bid contract because now, in case you haven't noticed, we're kind of under the threat of a biological attack. So the Obama administration steered $150 million in federal funding for the development and production of an anthrax vaccine to a bio-defense firm

56:57 that according to this article has very strong democratic ties. It's Farm Aten who bought a company in 2008 that had the federal contract. Homeland Security Department says this is nothing more than a follow-on. So basically it's just like they gave this contract away and there's a reason for that. And this is pretty crazy, there's an interesting story that I put in the show notes. You know that we have people dying in the United Kingdom and a couple other spots in Europe from anthrax-tainted heroin. Remember we talked about this a couple weeks ago? Yeah. And the theory is that this anthrax is being produced in Afghanistan and it's huge weaponized quantities of anthrax.

57:47 and that they stored it next to the shipment of heroin that was supposed to go out to the West and it contaminated the heroin. Why not? No, I think it's very possible. But more interesting is there's a shipment of anthrax coming over. That would be the thing we have to be a little worried about. And there were no explain the contract to make some vaccines. I mean there is an anthrax vaccine is apparently one of those vaccines I'll make you sick as a dog if and possibly injure you that the army has been given and I don't know maybe this yeah, I guess there's a big pot of somebody's got a bunch of anthrax are gonna do something with in Afghanistan wasn't

58:35 Wasn't there some weird news? I don't think we can tie this in. Would botulism have anything to do with this or is that completely separate? I think that would be completely separate. Okay, because I remember there was a huge bunch of botulism. All the botulism stuff goes to Hollywood. It's right here. You got it down the street. It's right down the hill. But no, there's just weird reports and it's in the show notes at NoGenderShow.com you can read all about it. It's under the CIA wars and you've got to think that yeah, there is definitely, well we know there's hatred between the administration and the CIA and who knows? Maybe they're threatening with putting more anthrax in the heroin or actually shipping the anthrax over. I mean, it's kind of scary. Meantime,

59:26 That would be the reason, so let's say the CIA was in charge of this. They have the heroin and they have the anthrax and so Obama knows this and so he's gotten, he cranks up the anthrax, the countermeasure would be to get this vaccine done. Which of course I'm not going to take either. Yeah, I'm not going to be letting them inject me with all this stuff. Personally, I think nothing's going to come of any of it. But it is troubling, I would think. Maybe I'd get people off of heroin just by contaminating the stuff. The marijuana thing probably is more troubling. Well, wait a minute. You could also look at it the other way because of course the heroin is a big

CHAPTER 13 / 25 Discussion

NATO Laundry Logistics, Drug Smuggling Allegations

General Egon Rams of NATO reports concerns that military laundry shipments from Afghanistan to Germany are being used to smuggle drugs. The hosts mock the inefficiency of shipping uniforms to Dusseldorf for cleaning via Ecolog AG. They suggest the entire logistics chain, including trash disposal and diesel delivery, serves as a conduit for illicit activity.

nato· afghanistan· ecolog ag· germany· drug smuggling· egon rams

1:00:12 It's a big part of the whole deal. Financing of everything. So maybe Obama is protecting Wall Street. See, this is what I mean. This is the problem. We can't seem to get to the bottom of any of it. some underreported news and I didn't actually know this but you know when say you've been out there in Afghanistan you've been walking around you're on patrol you're a kid you're dodging IEDs or you're flying around in your jet and you're over there you don't want to be there and you're sweating away and you come back to base and you throw your uniform in the hamper you know what happens with that? you think it gets washed on the base or something? No.

1:01:02 No, no, no, no, no. It gets picked up by Ecolog AG, which is a Dusseldorf based company, who ship it back to Germany and wash it and then ship it back over to Afghanistan. No, that's bogus. There's no way that they could do that. It's idiotic. Listen to this. Egon Rams, a four-star general heading a NATO command, told a radio station in Berlin There was a danger that possibly drugs or similar things have been smuggled back to the West to Germany in these huge shipments of laundry. I've heard guys having their mom do their laundry, but this is ridiculous. Yeah, they collect trash and laundry. Yep.

1:01:54 Rom said NATO is currently... No wonder we've got no money. Yeah, of course. Currently checking two active countries. I think I'm going to have my laundry done in Paris. Yeah, well, I mean, if you've got Burger King and Pizza Hut on the base, you might as well have a, you know, a pickup laundry service. I mean, what difference does it make if, you know, it's still going to be a couple days of dry cleaning, whether it's done in Germany or not. You know, it's just a flight away. I mean, hey, we got to make some money somehow, right? They also deliver diesel and dispose of trash. You ship the trash from Afghanistan to Germany? Yep. That's pretty funny. It's a Macedonian... Yeah, it sounds like a conduit for drugs to me. Yeah. Well, this is what this four-star general is saying. He said that it seems like, hey, you think there's drug smuggling going on over there in that laundry? And of course you won't read anything about this.

CHAPTER 14 / 25 Discussion

Afghan Cash Flight, Dubai Financial Hub, Blackwater Contracts

Reports indicate over $1 billion in cash is flown annually from Kabul to Dubai on commercial flights. The hosts note the high frequency of flights between the two cities and the presence of major firms like Halliburton in the UAE. They also discuss Blackwater (Xe Services) receiving new Defense Department contracts to train Afghan police despite previous administration promises to remove them.

dubai· kabul· cash· blackwater· halliburton· money laundering

1:02:50 I had to find that this took me a while to trace down. There's only one story. When we turned on the tsunami coverage on Fox, we went from CNN to Fox, they were still covering the whale drowning, the whale that drowned the trainer. Yeah. I mean, this is like old news. It was like a big scandal that the whale was performing again. Yeah. And they said, we're not going to euthanize him. We're having a discussion about killing a killer whale. I mean, please. Here's a story we just got, just came in, International Service Solutions, Echolog. They actually have a website, we have to put it in the show notes. And it looks like a new camp opens in Afghanistan, they're going to do the laundry there. Oh really? Okay. They're doing it on site. They're going to do the laundry where, you know, someplace nearby. Oh man. So here's something else that's kind of interesting, an article from the Washington Post.

1:03:49 officials puzzle over millions of dollars leaving Afghanistan by plane for Dubai. Yeah, I was following this story too. Yeah, the cash estimated to total well over 1 billion dollars a year flows mostly to the Persian Gulf Emirate of Dubai where many wealthy Afghans now park their families and funds according to US and Afghan officials. So I guess the deal is you can get on a plane in Afghanistan and you can fly anywhere in the world with as much cash as you want as long as you declare it. So there's no tax or anything, just say, yeah, I got like 5 million here in my jockeys. As long as you tell them that, it's okay. So it's almost laughable. We've got the drugs flowing out in the dirty underwear over to Germany.

1:04:42 And then we've got the cash flowing back out, you know, literally just through the commercial airlines into Dubai. And the funny thing about that story, if I read it right, and I find this to be peculiar, this is like so, such a, it's so endemic. There are 10 round-trip flights a day from Kabul to Dubai. I mean why would you need 10 flights a day? This is like a commuter flight. This is the kind of flight schedule you have, you know, United would have to LA from San Francisco. And what is Dubai, John? Is Dubai not one of the major financial capitals of the world? Is that not all of these banks set up huge corporations in Dubai?

1:05:25 Yeah, in fact, wasn't it Blackwater who was it that re-established or no, it was Bechtel, not Bechtel but the other big company that's name's always mentioned that Cheney used to run. What's that? Oh, Halliburton. Halliburton. Halliburton, I think is headquartered there now. For tax reasons. So in other words, they get all the money from us, the taxpayers, and then they move to Dubai so they can screw us. Then we don't get any of the tax benefits the company and former officials familiar with a brand new deal for training Afghan police say that Blackwater is likely to get the Defense Department issue contract with several hundred million dollars What happened to Obama kicking these guys out? I think maybe that is him kicking them out by giving them more money. Yeah Okay, little convoluted, but it's a possibility. I miss that somehow

CHAPTER 15 / 25 Discussion

Vancouver Olympics, Condom Shortage PR Stunt

An emergency shipment of 100,000 condoms to the Vancouver Olympic Village is dismissed by the hosts as a public relations stunt by the Canadian Foundation for AIDS Research (CANFAR). They calculate the distribution rate per athlete and compare it to previous games in Barcelona, questioning the necessity of the massive delivery.

vancouver· olympics· condoms· canfar· barcelona· aids research

1:06:28 Alright, maybe we should hit everyone with a little bit of... And now, back to real news. Dateline, Vancouver. Emergency shipment of 100,000 condoms sent to the Olympic... the Olympians in Vancouver. They were running low on rubbers. What are they doing over there? Now I know why people are willing to go compete in Olympic games for no money. It's like you're getting laid like a crazy person over there. 100,000 condoms. That's 14 per person. And by the way, that's 14 for every man and woman. You only need one for the two of yous.

1:07:16 You know, you're getting laid every single day at this rate. Or more, more than once. When we heard about the condom shortage in Vancouver, we felt it important to respond immediately, said Carried Whiteside, Canfar's executive director. What is Canfar? I don't know. Let's look it up. Of course, why even explain it in the article? The organization assembled three large boxes of about 8,500 condoms, much to the relief of libidoes at the Olympic Village. They're expected to arrive on Thursday. Free condoms first started to be distributed at the Olympics in Barcelona at the 1992 Games. What is CANFAR? Oh, Canadian Foundation for AIDS Research.

1:08:03 Sounds like a PR stunt actually. Yep. Yep. Yep. Totally a PR stunt that you bought. Well, no, I mean, I'm just reporting. I called it real news. Excuse me. I don't want to say I bought into it. Okay, I'm just you know There's some great stuff. You'll recall the the audio clip we played last week of Nigel Farage of the UK Independent Party in the European United States of Europe Parliament Berating the president of Europe the unelected president of Europe Herman van Rompuy the Belgian who and he called him a

CHAPTER 16 / 25 Discussion

EU Parliament Conflict, Nigel Farage vs. Herman Van Rompuy

Nigel Farage's verbal attack on EU President Herman Van Rompuy is reviewed, including his description of Van Rompuy as having the "charisma of a damp rag." The hosts explore Van Rompuy's personal website, mocking his Dutch haikus and his "quiet assassin" approach to democracy. They also mention a cancelled nude photo shoot in New Zealand due to tsunami warnings.

nigel farage· herman van rompuy· european union· lisbon treaty· haiku· belgium

1:08:41 What do you call them? A wet rag? Yeah, dish. Yeah, right. It was a good clip. You still have it. So it's worth playing that part again. Yeah, I can pull it up real quick because he has a website and why don't you go look at the website while I'm pulling up the clip from last week. What's the guy's name? It's Herman van Rompuy dot B E. Of course, for Belgium. I can't even... Roompuy.be. It's Herman, H-E-R-M-A-N, Van, V-A-N, Roompuy, R-O-M-P-U-Y, dot B-E. And let me see if I can find this clip real quick. Here it is. Nigel Farage on the EU president. Here's what we played for you on Thursday. It's pretty funny.

1:09:26 At this picture, oh, and I got another this interesting Google is doing pre-rolls on YouTube. Yeah, you're gonna start making clips Yeah, but you know what? Then I really will have to quit my day job because of all the amount of video that I have to make clips of I mean it takes a lot of time does you think making an audio clip just look at a Prisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk and the question that I want to ask The question that I want to ask, that we're all going to ask is, who are you? I'd never heard of you. Nobody in Europe had ever heard of you. I would like to ask you, President, who voted for you and what mechanism? Oh, I know democracy is not popular with you lot. So you should go back and look at this clip. I'll put this one in the show notes again in case you hadn't seen it. I'll put it into this week's show notes. It's hilarious.

1:10:20 But there is a real war going on amongst the elites. We have... By the way, before you go on, I got the guy's website up, but if anybody wants to really see something humorous, go to the Wikipedia entry for this, for Van Roompuy, and just look at the picture they have of him there. It is just a stitch. Yeah, you know what he looks like? A classic. Well I want you to go to the to his haikus. Unfortunately they're in Dutch. They're in Dutch. But he has haikus. I'll translate one on the fly. He also has this pencil sketch of himself. It's a really funny website. And he's got a Facebook. He's got 2,300 people on his fans on Facebook. The pond is freezing. I step on the water. The sun freeze it. You can hear the spring. The rustle of the trees.

1:11:19 The winter snow crackles. It's all like... In the snowy night, a calling. Suddenly, an owl who breaks the silence. A strange bird. This is the president of the United States of Europe. The guy's a total idiot. But here's the power grab that's going on. There's like real, real weird shit going on between him, who of course is just a puppet, has been put in there and he looks like, oh this picture is mint. I love the, what is this, the telegraph. Open warfare has broken out at the top of the European Union with governments accusing the new president, Hamel van der Rompuy, I can't even pronounce the guy's name, of making a power grab.

1:12:05 So the introduction of the Lisbon Treaty has triggered this fight between this guy, Fonrumpa, and Baroness Ashton, as you recall, another person who Nigel Farage berated. She's the foreign minister of the United States of Europe. And then there's the commission about who's in charge of representing Europe on the global stage. And of course, you know, it's like, so this guy is making a grab right now. He refuted and it's held Nigel Farage in contempt, but he did it in French. It's like, and I listened to it this morning, I'm like, okay. The only thing is that at a certain point you hear him say global governance. That's about all you can understand. But the whole thing is in French. It's like, what is this? Memo, just a little memo people. Most people speak English.

1:13:02 And if you're saying it in French, then you're probably hiding something. I find the whole thing to be weird. What does it mean now that Nigel's in contempt? Does it mean if he goes to the continent they're going to arrest him? Take him to the criminal court? No, I have it here what could happen. EU Parliament chief considering action. So then of course we have another guy, the EU Parliament president Jerzy Buzek. I think he's a Pole. Yeah, he's considering, so I guess he's supposed to be like the chairman or whatever of these meetings. He's considering disciplinary action against the British MP who launched a verbal attack. What does that mean? Well, I'm going to tell you. The president is currently exploring which measures are the most appropriate to deal with this issue.

1:13:52 He would like to see vivid political debate, but he will not tolerate this chamber is disrespected that people in it are personally insulted or comments about anyone's personal appearance. Which of course is valid, although very funny. But you know, it's not really like, you know, if you're making an argument against someone's policies or where they're coming from, to say that he looks like a dishrag or a second rate banking clerk is a little harsh. Yeah, it is, but it's a fact. I know, this is the funny thing. Mr. Farage, during a plenary debate in the, this is from the EU Observer by the way, it's a great website, in the EU Capital on Wednesday said Mr. Van Rompuy has the charisma of a damp rag and looks like a low-grade bank clerk. Also called him a quiet assassin of democracy, which I think is valid to say, and his native Belgium is a non-country, another valid fact. So what can he actually do?

1:14:45 I think he can give him a slap on the wrist and there's not much you know you can like bar him from a couple meetings or something not much hmm not much but you have to come up with something more extreme by the way we did miss part I hate to go back in this on the show early part of the show which is tsunami I forgot that we forgot to mention the great tragedy that took place after the earthquake and because of the tsunami. I don't know if you heard about it. It's for our New Zealand listeners. It was apparently just very disturbing. Let me just read from this article. A mass nude photo shoot planned for Wellington at the Baker Bay Beach has been cancelled as a result of the tsunami warning. Oh my god, now that's a bummer.

1:15:35 Yeah, can you imagine if you and I had scheduled a trip to be at that photo shoot to direct it as of course it would be highly likely and it got cancelled after we traveled all the way there. Yeah, it would have been bad. So they don't know when they're gonna, I don't see any evidence they're gonna, you know, where they're rescheduling. Huh. Says listen to the radio and TV for updates. There was, I followed these executive orders that the president ever since Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff for President Obama said, hey you know what if Congress ain't gonna pass stuff, screw it. We're just gonna do executive orders, we'll do whatever we want. So there was at one point a bill and I haven't found the number it was, but there was a bill that got killed to establish some kind of committee or commission to reduce the budget deficit. And that got killed.

CHAPTER 17 / 25 Discussion

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility, Peterson Commission

President Obama's executive order establishing a National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform is analyzed. The hosts warn of a potential "mandatory savings tax" where a portion of paychecks would be diverted into IRAs managed by firms like Goldman Sachs. They link this to the Peterson Commission and the need to service US debt held by China and Japan.

barack obama· fiscal commission· pete peterson· goldman sachs· ira· budget deficit

1:14:45 I think he can give him a slap on the wrist and there's not much you know you can like bar him from a couple meetings or something not much hmm not much but you have to come up with something more extreme by the way we did miss part I hate to go back in this on the show early part of the show which is tsunami I forgot that we forgot to mention the great tragedy that took place after the earthquake and because of the tsunami. I don't know if you heard about it. It's for our New Zealand listeners. It was apparently just very disturbing. Let me just read from this article. A mass nude photo shoot planned for Wellington at the Baker Bay Beach has been cancelled as a result of the tsunami warning. Oh my god, now that's a bummer.

1:15:35 Yeah, can you imagine if you and I had scheduled a trip to be at that photo shoot to direct it as of course it would be highly likely and it got cancelled after we traveled all the way there. Yeah, it would have been bad. So they don't know when they're gonna, I don't see any evidence they're gonna, you know, where they're rescheduling. Huh. Says listen to the radio and TV for updates. There was, I followed these executive orders that the president ever since Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff for President Obama said, hey you know what if Congress ain't gonna pass stuff, screw it. We're just gonna do executive orders, we'll do whatever we want. So there was at one point a bill and I haven't found the number it was, but there was a bill that got killed to establish some kind of committee or commission to reduce the budget deficit. And that got killed.

1:16:35 I don't know in which house it got killed in. But then the president on the 18th of February came out with an executive order authorizing, of course, by the powers vested in him as a president and by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, the establishment of a National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. And this is very interesting as I've been looking into this. Everything is on the table, the president has said. Whatever these guys come up with, because of course we have to reduce this horrible deficit because right now just the interest alone that we're paying back to China and Japan and other holders of US debt, those that are still left, is about half a trillion dollars a year. That's half of all our tax revenue. We've got like the worst credit card deal in the world.

1:17:32 So it should be illegal. Well, of course it should be illegal. And of course, the and this will be consumer protection whatsoever in this country would happen. Yeah. And this will lead into a great clip I have on Ron Paul and the Federal Reserve. But as I started to research what this commission is supposed to do, I came across this thing called the Peterson Commission. Have you heard about this? No. So the Peterson Commission and this is I think this is what they tried to pass in the House. One of this commission's recommendations was a mandatory savings tax of each paycheck which would go into an IRA to buy US treasuries, which is exactly what we need. Unfortunately, this guy who's been propagating this, this Pete Peterson, is of course a Goldman Sachs stooge who will be managing the account for the United States.

1:18:33 So you watch this National Commission who are by December 1st 2010 have to deliver a final report at which point the committee, the commission will be dissolved. You watch there will be a mandatory saving because we're too stupid. We don't know how to save so the government has to teach us how to save and that will go directly into an IRA managed by Goldman Sachs or Blackstone could be even worse. And I just wanted to put that on everybody's radar to be on the lookout for because this stuff always flies very low underneath it. And before you know it, you get less of your paycheck at the end of the day. Yep. Now, and Goldman Sachs probably benefits in some way. Well, yeah, if they're if they're managing the IRA account on behalf of the United States. Yeah, you think? So we got an interesting email from one of our producers listeners out there who is

CHAPTER 18 / 25 Discussion

Ron Paul vs. Ben Bernanke, Federal Reserve Audit

The hosts play a clip of Congressman Ron Paul questioning Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke during a Financial Services Committee hearing. Paul accuses the Fed of facilitating a $5.5 billion loan to Saddam Hussein in the 1980s and covering up the source of cash found on Watergate burglars. Bernanke dismisses the allegations as "bizarre" while admitting the Fed has the legal authority to bail out foreign nations like Greece.

ron paul· ben bernanke· federal reserve· watergate· greece· saddam hussein

1:19:34 pretty much known as T to us. And he sent a, he forwarded a note from Congressman Ron Paul of Texas, a statement for the record entered on February 25th, 2010. Madam Speaker, I would like to enter into the record the following letter from Professor Robert D. Auerbach, a professor at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs, University of Texas. This letter provides additional information regarding remarks I made at yesterday's Financial Services Committee Humphrey Hawkins hearing, remarks which Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke categorized as bizarre. And I'd like to play this sound clip.

1:20:14 so that we can just hear what Ron Paul accuses the Federal Reserve of and Bernanke's response and actually Twinkle Toes Barney Franks jumps a pile jumps on Ron Paul actually gives him some props. It's just amazing when you hear what these guys have been up to for a long long time. You ready for this? I'm ready. Thank you Mr. Chairman. By the way, it was cool that I could just take a couple keywords, went to cspan.org, was able to find this actual piece of video and I pulled, I did do an actual sound clip of this. Federal Reserve Transparency Act which has passed the House already.

1:20:52 is something that the Federal Reserve obviously has been opposed to. And one of the reasons they are opposed to it, as I understand it, is it would politicize the monetary policy, which is not what the bill actually does. The other reason they give is that if Congress had any subtle influence, they would inflate more than the Federal Reserve might want to. It's sort of ironic the Federal Reserve kept interest rates too low too long and the consensus now in the financial community is that is true. Interest rates are now still down at 1%, so hardly could the Congress

1:21:31 influence the Federal Reserve in a negative way by causing them to inflate even more. So Ron Paul has to set this up because this is what the whole end the Fed bill which is kind of dropped off the radar with killer whales and Tiger Woods all of the distractions of the week he sets it up because we still have to pass this bill so we can basically audit the Federal Reserve and you know the Federal Reserve is a central bank and they've been scamming us for a hundred years since its inception or 97 years and the Federal Reserve is saying, well you can't see everything we do because if you know then you know then all of a sudden we're not independent anymore and then you know the Congress who actually constitutionally has the right to do the job of the Federal Reserve but who outsourced it, well they'll start meddling in our affairs and that's no good for the country and for the security of the United States i.e. we can't be ripping them off without anyone seeing it.

1:22:25 There has been a political cozy relationship between Congress and the Federal Reserve, although the Congress has been derelict in their responsibility to perform oversight. But I would like to get to more specifics on the transparency bill because it has been reported in the past that during the 1980s that the Fed actually facilitated a $5.5 billion loan to Saddam Hussein and he then bought weapons from our military industrial complex and also that is when he invested in a nuclear reactor. Were you aware of this little nugget, John? I think I was, actually. Well, how come you didn't stand up and protest? I don't do that. So we gave a $5.5 billion loan, not we the people, but the private bankers known as the Federal Reserve, to Saddam Hussein. He gave it back to us. With interest? No, by buying crap from us. Right, exactly. He bought our shit, and then we fought him against our crap.

1:23:29 Is that it? Okay, so at least we knew what he had. That's why everyone was able to say, he has weapons of mass destruction. We know that because we sold that shit to him, boy! How come we can't find it? And we couldn't get the information. Here comes the doozy. But my question is, you object to this idea that I would say give us six months, after six months we could find out what we're doing. But what about giving us, give you ten years Would you grant that the American people deserve to know whether the Federal Reserve has been involved in this and what kind of shenanigans they're involved with foreign countries and foreign central banks and find out possibly you're working right now to bail out Greece for all we know. But would you grant that after 10 or 15 years the American people

1:24:14 deserve to know it seems like if the Fed was not involved with this what no matter and no at all it would be to your advantage to say no we don't do stuff like that but why couldn't we open the books up ten years back and find out the truth of these matters what's interesting is I don't hear this in the clip which kind of pisses me off maybe I edited it out like a douche He says, oh crap, maybe it's coming up. He says that the Federal Reserve money was found on the Watergate burglars, about $7,000 of it. And he wants that investigated. Did you know about this? No, this I did not know. Yeah, I hope it's coming up in the clip.

1:24:58 The Federal Reserve covered up the source of $6,300 in $100 bills found on the Watergate burglars when they were arrested on June 17th. And it turned out that that money came from the Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank. Listen to what, maybe I clipped it out somehow, but here's what Bernanke has to say. Congressman, these specific allegations you've made I think are absolutely bizarre and I have absolutely no knowledge of anything remotely like what you just described. So he's saying that we did not lend 5.5 billion dollars to Saddam Hussein, even goes further and says you're bizarre. This is bizarre. This is so crazy. You kook! You're just a nutball! As far as the 10 years, after 5 years we produce complete transcripts of every word said in the FOMC meeting and so you have every word in front of you. But can we get the results of every agreement, every single thing to foreign governments? Yes sir.

1:25:54 You heard him say it. Yes, sir. You can get that. Except for the secret shit. and that it is this cozy relationship that we will get to the point where something will have to be done about this financial system. So as long as we continue this cover-up, and quite frankly I do not believe that the real effort

1:26:30 to facilitate some of these things that have been done in the past would become available to us because it is in the interest of the Federal Reserve to make sure that the people don't know. And right now today, is it quite possible that, have you talked with any international groups about us participating in a bailout of Greece? I have not. But the Federal Reserve under the law are capable of doing this. Isn't it correct that the Fed can buy debt of other nations? So now Bernanke's looking around. Under the Monetary Control Act of 1980, is that not permissible? Bernanke's looking at his advisors. I'm guessing that the way he posed that question, that Paul, Ron Paul, knows something. Yes, exactly. Of course he does.

1:27:19 Of course he does. That's why he's saying it. And Bernanke is looking around at his advisors, he's going to his shady left to right and then it's like... It's true, but we have no plans whatsoever to be involved in any foreign bailouts or anything of that sort. So he says, oh yeah, it's true, we could do it, but we got no plans to do that. Yeah, but he says it's true. Way, but specifically says they're any foreign foreign bailouts or things of whatever that nature But it doesn't mean there's not some sort of weird investing vehicle or some screwing thing going on. It's not by proxy It's indirect of course a bailout would insinuate you know money going directly, but of course not it goes through Goldman or one of the other firms that that these guys are all involved with virtually involved in any foreign bailouts or anything of that sort

1:28:09 But if they did, it certainly would be to our advantage to know about it. You'll know about it. Okay, let's hold Barney Frank to it. Yeah, I mean it this is just bizarre You're just bizarre that you say these things. I'm sorry. I must have clipped out the it's like one sentence where he talks about the Watergate the Watergate money, but These these the Federal Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank informed the Fed board on June 20th that These notes that were found on the Watergate

1:29:06 burglars were shipped from the Reserve Bank to the Girard Trust Company in Philadelphia, April 3rd, 1972. These were old bills that were ready for destruction and then it hit me, I'm like, wow, that's what happens. The Federal Reserve is supposed to destroy bills after a certain amount of time. They take them out of circulation but they're not. They're sticking them in their back pocket and handing them out like chiclets, like candy. They may not be destroying it at all. Well, you know, it reminds me of Las Vegas in the counting room, you know? Yeah. Guys come in there and out goes some money and nobody knows. One thing I know is we need some money. Give me some of those old Federal Reserve notes. Let's just pass them off to us. Just pack them up in a FedEx box. Brown paper bag. Paper bag. Drop them off. So we've done an incredible amount of work.

CHAPTER 19 / 25 Discussion

Donor Acknowledgments, Period Plus App, Value-for-Value Model

Adam and John read through a list of donors and producers, discussing the "hat trick" of donation tiers. They highlight a specific app called "Period Plus" mentioned by a donor, leading to a discussion on the utility of menstruation trackers for men in relationships. The hosts reiterate their "value-for-value" model, explaining why the show remains commercial-free and listener-supported.

paypal· donations· period plus· value-for-value· no agenda· subscriptions

1:30:07 Again, work for three shows really a week, which I'd like to get to. Hey, no bites on the plane yet either. Blow the plane. Well, let's thank a few people who helped us out. And I also want to thank a couple of people that left some messages. Like we're doing our special donations for the No Agenda stream, which is a separate, which is done in a mailing that we sent to the people who donated. And Roland Ruth wants to mention that he did the hat trick. In other words, he gave to be an executive producer, founding executive producer, a founding associate executive producer, and a producer. Ooh, wow. So yeah, that is the hat trick.

1:30:44 And what does that total? That doesn't total enough for a knighthood though probably. Yeah, but I'm going to look at Ruth's numbers. He probably has enough. We'll find out. Mark Bodforth gave us some money with a message. He's going to miss us when this goes mainstream. Yeah, oh yeah. I laughed too. Yeah, the earthquake machine wars, that's going mainstream any day now. Going mainstream and if you didn't notice, Adam dropped the chemtrails bomb. Mainstream any day now. Ooh, wait a minute, the phone is ringing. That must be Clear Channel right now. They can't wait to get us on the team.

1:31:28 So we got some miscellaneous donations. We got a guy whose name is Kashif Hussain. Take a look at this. K-A-S-H-I-F Hussain, H-U-S-A-I-N in Frankfurt, Germany. He gave us $55.55 and he thinks I can't pronounce that. Well, that's not that hard. Well, I didn't think so. Now we have Jose Abreu in Lisbon, Portugal who gave us $65 which is $49 in EU money. And I'm not sure that the Abreu name, which would be a Spanish pronunciation from Jose Abreu, it was the correct pronunciation for the Portuguese versions are always different. David Middlebrook, Aberdeenshire, UK, $51 from podcastforpeace.com.

1:32:19 51 10 and it's an Alamo, California 53 50 53 33 from Just on the the podcast for the way is that my phone? Like you to get a bell ringing. Yeah, it's good. The timing is perfect. That means time to donate kids Let's get that I'll read this with the sham McLean from Linden, Utah could be Sean anyway, he says that we should spend it on hookers and blow and he has an app iPhone app called period plus oh I want to check that out what is period plus that like a menstruation tracker

1:33:01 Yep, really aren't you glad you asked well. No you know I'll tell you because I funny enough I actually have one of those apps and I would tell you guys if you have an iPhone This is a very very handy app to have all you have to do is you have to tap it once when? When it starts and then every single month around that time when you need to be kind of careful it alerts you to that and There you go. It's seriously I mean No, it's not sexist at all. It's not sexist would have been in the 60s. It's a it no Well, it's a hormonal thing that happens to women and if you're living with a woman, it's nice to know this I think by the way, is it a Android app or a iPhone app? I think it's an iPhone app. He just says app

1:33:50 Period Plus tracks all the following items. Breast tenderness level, cramp intensity, cycle day, intimacy, notes, notes. period flow. No, this is good. This is for a lot of women. It's a crazy time. They get a hormonal change. I'm not gonna say imbalance, but a change. And if your partner knows about it because guys are too stupid to write stuff down and calculate three weeks, we're idiots, it's good. You can You can kind of help your partner with whatever she's going through, which let's face it, we have no idea what that's like. I'm all for these types of apps. I think that's a good thing. I don't think it's sexist at all. Well, McLean, you got your money's worth. By the way, podcastforpeace.com.

1:34:40 JD who donated the 5110, he says, hey, you know, actually sent me a separate email. He says, I got a job and now that I have two coins to rub together, I'm going to waste them on something good. So let me give to you guys first. Good man. Yeah, uh, we have another indian Rajinder singh from new south wales, of course, he's in australia Then we found out by the way over the last few days that people in india can't pay us through paypal So it's like impossible. So I was you know, I may be harsh even though people keep confirming that the indians are uh, uh, uh, They're not uh, they don't throw their money around mathis janssen m-a-t-h-i-s-j-a-s-e-n from

1:35:28 New vanip and I can okay. Let's just rewind that Mattis young sir from new fin up. Yeah Yes $99 thank you And he says he's hoping that we go to two shows a week. Well, great! You know what, you should give us $1,000 because we made it. We're doing two shows. And apparently, it's not tuned in for a while. And we have a shout out to Renee Schwartz, S-W-E-R-T-Z. uh... who's a douche bag apparently according to uh... when that happens you know we gotta do says i don't know i never met the man uh... then we have adam ur isn't interesting uh... eighty e m e r uh... last name and he is in anchora

1:36:19 And he gave the magic $33.33 three times for a total of $99.99. Wow, which is really the way to go because these are magic numbers. They give you power. There's something really, really good about that. And of course, the real magic number is 333.33 times three. We kick in the extra penny and you become an automatic knight. And we're writing all these names down because we are going to do the rings. which a lot of people seem to be very excited about. Exactly. Alan Chow wants us to plug typecoasters.com. He's a student, a 20-year-old student, $63.63 and he

1:37:08 I'm looking at something here and I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway, Alan Chow and also we have a plug. Did I mention, yeah, I know. This is like, I need a second, sorry. Did I mention Marcus Couch? Yes, he's an executive producer. Right, right, right, okay. Right, duh. Now we have a $50 donation from somebody in Virginia and who wants to go by the code name Anubis. I don't know why anybody in Virginia would want to use code names, but he gave us 50 bucks and that's it for this week. Along with all the people who are involved with our stream funding. And a quick note from Chris Wachren from Ontario, Canada. I donated $50 Thursday from Gitmo Nation North.

1:38:03 John missed my note calling out Jamie McAllister for his lack of donation. I'm sure that a call-out is all the encouragement he needs to donate to the show, but of course the more donations to get, the closer we get to three shows a week. I realize that John doesn't like the call-outs, but it does seem to be bringing in more donations for the show. Is this a fact, John? You don't like doing the call-outs? Well, I just forgot to do Alan Chao's call-out to Brian Rubenton and Blake Travis, who are both douchebags, according to him. They won't give us the money. Douchebag! You know, I'm concerned that when we actually start getting real donations and it's enough money to sustain like a meager living that we're gonna be messing up a lot. Maybe we should... Can I just get you a secretary? I mean, with that... The money that we have we can certainly get an intern and pay someone, you know, like the $9.97 an hour. I'm gonna do some of this with a database manager. I'm gonna... Oh, please.

1:39:01 And I think I'm gonna also have a special douchebag file so the people will be, the douchebags will be in a separate file and then they'll be ticked off, like taken off the list as they go along. How about this, why don't we hire your son? Well, we can pay him. And it's convenient. You can get him to work for more than we pay him. Yeah, we'll have to do that. Well, seriously, that would be a good use of the money because we are missing a lot of these donations and that's not okay. We're really not missing that many. And we usually make up for it. Anyone who doesn't get their name mentioned that falls into these categories, which is different again from the founding producer categories, but just the weekly donation, just send us an email. We'll take care of it.

1:39:48 So anyway, thank you to all of our donors this week and of course our executive producers Adam Burkpile from the fantastic Pocket No Agenda iPhone app which I use, Miss Mickey uses it when she's on her way to the gym after the No Agenda pancakes and listens to the show. It actually works pretty well all the way down the hill from the watchtower, you know, even on the crappy cell reception you get here in the Southern California. It's a great app and there's a new version. He was working on some version of it, John, which I really liked, which would have like some kind of ping service where if you and I sent out a tweet with like a message saying, you know, the show is, you know, hit it or whatever.

1:40:30 Then it would ping you and it would, you know, with like one of those alert things and you'd hit it and then it would start playing the stream, which I thought was pretty cool. I don't think that's implemented yet, but I like that. Marcus Couch, another executive producer along with Michael Knight, who was a brand new knight on the show. And then of course our associate executive producers, Philip Evans and David Dolson. We appreciate your donations. But also everyone who donated anonymously, people who have gone under the $50 limit, which is where most anonymous donors live. And of course, the subscriptions that are $5 a month. I get a lot of people who sign up for that, particularly students.

1:41:10 Which is highly appreciated and please consider signing up to that because that's really eventually going to be the base that we need To continue and to grow the show basically So we got some we got some till we just know agenda show.com Dvorak org slash na or channel Dvorak comm slash na And we really need your help because we have no commercials, no interruption. It's a new model. It seems to be working, although we got a ways to go. People like it. And the fact is we can't. This is a show that could never be commercialized. It's not possible or it could be, but then it would suck.

1:41:55 And if you like what you're hearing the way it is, and sometimes, you know, some shows are better than others. I think we had one recently that people loved. It was 173, 172, whatever it was. And you know, you can always go back and listen to old shows. And it's just that, you know, we dig up weird stuff and see things differently. And I think it's worth the price of admission. Well, yeah, thank you. I mean, where else can you get a complete deconstruction of Time magazine, which actually helps you Read better. You know you should be given that just that piece alone cut out the earthquake stuff Whatever you think is inappropriate or not and give it to your kids let them listen to how to read a news article and how a Hit piece is put together and what that actually means and looks like it's a great education You don't get that on CNN no on CNN you get

CHAPTER 20 / 25 Discussion

Show Notes Feedback, This Week in Security Plug

The hosts address listener feedback regarding the organization of show notes and categories. They mention a plug from the "This Week in Security" podcast and discuss the "In the Morning" catchphrase appearing in other media. Adam Curry notes technical difficulties with his Windows 7 machine and iPad before transitioning to the final news segments.

show notes· twitter· this week in security· lenovo· starbucks· podcasting

1:42:46 This local television station CCTV And of course the the best thing about this the system that we use is its value for value You give us what you think the value is which of course is taken directly from? By Ayn Rand Well brother great book you so you ruin it for everybody. Yeah, you should read it. Oh uh... so i got a double tweet to mention uh... uh... hip-hop uh... uh... monologue this is and it was a little more burden actually okay uh... releases photo you're showing no should highlight the topics you covered on the show it's too much to filter and find specific links uh... understand i mean it yet in his secretary look i put it i i break it up by categories

1:43:40 You know, we just about everything we talk about is in these show notes. Pretty much. By the way, we got a couple, I got a couple emails to tell you, I don't know why they didn't tell you themselves, tell you that the show notes are spectacular and this is students that usually show notes for whatever purpose, whatever nefarious purpose they use them for. Also, I got a note from sneaker Pete who wants to know when the founding producers it will be mentioned which will be after we're done Which would be and I guess a week and a half March wins is closed March 3rd. We're not gonna take any more Money for the or we're gonna take more money later But no more founding producer money after March something or other most people have gotten the letter and have opened it Right. So essentially what we're doing now is we're communicating directly with people who have donated in the past we give you

1:44:30 Different opportunities to help with the show, but you know you can also if you don't have any money There's lots of people who say dude love the show. I'm broke. I got a family. You know that's another beauty of the show It's like okay. No problem. It's completely enjoy it Tell someone to listen Yeah, I think it'd be helpful if we got more listeners. That is the number one way you can really help if you can't donate is to help us get more listeners because that eventually brings more in the door. You know, this is not a crazy way of doing things. And we're putting the work in. God, we're putting the work in. Well, especially you this morning. Your machine blew up again. Yeah, yeah. That was weird. Was that a Windows 7 problem? Yeah. My iPad is on the fritz.

1:45:16 Do you have one or two clips left? Do you want to do something? Because I got like two stories from the not good for you category that I'd like to talk about. Well, let me look at these. Hold on a second. And we got a plug from this week in security. Oh, did we now? Maybe unintentional, but listen to this. So these guys are in hot water. It's interesting. There's a guy who bought a little sub notebook, a little Novo, in fact, who's a regular in the morning at Starbucks. There you go. In the morning. I'm hearing that everywhere now. This is such a great name. I'm not absolutely sure these are real plugs. You think? All right.

CHAPTER 21 / 25 Discussion

Anthem Blue Cross Rate Hikes, Pharmaceutical Pricing Scams

A deconstruction of the 39% rate increase by Anthem Blue Cross focuses on the relationship between insurance companies and pharmaceutical pricing. Dvorak shares a personal anecdote about the cost of a generic Retin-A cream jumping from $15 to $125. He argues that insurance companies encourage high drug prices to increase their total revenue while maintaining a fixed 2-5% profit margin.

anthem blue cross· health insurance· retin-a· renova· generic drugs· profit margins

1:46:03 Yeah, you know, there's some we haven't really discussed, but I want to discuss it just for a minute. Play the Blue Cross clip. They have this, this is a story on our local news station in the San Francisco Bay Area, and it goes in and out from different people making excuses for the Blue Cross, the Anthem Blue Cross raising their rates 40%. It's a long clip. Do we interrupt it or we play it all the way through? I'll probably stop it at some point. The Assembly Health Committee had Anthem in its crosshairs. Have you no shame? The question is one that is disappointing to me Mr. Chairman. Committee members didn't seem inclined to offer sympathy. How are Californians supposed to afford health insurance with these rate increases? Most of the anger was directed at top executives of Anthem Blue Cross. So what was your compensation in 2009 including bonuses and

1:47:00 stock options. I don't feel that I should answer that question. Well, you make the argument that Blue Cross is doing everything it can to cut costs and I think it's a fair question. I think that the public have a right to know before they get hit with a 39% rate increase, is Blue Cross doing everything it can to cut costs? We absolutely are. And I said to my husband, oh my god, this is a 39% increase and I literally felt like I had been punched in the stomach. Marin County pediatrician Jan Masel had that reaction to her health insurance company raising her rates. But company executives claim the rate increases are necessary, not part of a grand plan to squeeze sick people for profits. The rate increase is driven by two

1:47:43 primary factors, the underlying growth in the cost of care and increased utilization by a mix of members who are gradually getting older and less healthy year over year. Profits in the range of 2.5 to 5 percent I think are reasonable profits. I think they're appropriate profits and I think they're profits that in fact are a responsibility that we have to keep a viable business. the only times reports and the ministry of more than four well they get all about how much money was going to well point which is the the father of the company owns a anthem blue cross but here's what i was noticing that i was trying to figure out what you know k they're making these excuses that you know we have to do this because of this race in that race so over the last week my uh... uh... i'd my wife needed some renova which is a renova is a desert is uh... yeah

1:48:41 There's a generic version, it's a cream that's got Retin-A in it. And if you have like, you use it on your face to, if you have a little rosacea or you have different, or you just have some blemishes you want to get rid of, and it's good for wrinkles, it's got a lot of uses. But it's, you know, the stuff, So it comes back to pharmacy says well you know the Blue Cross won't cover this unless you buy a bunch of it because it's one of these things where it's at the limit. You know you have to get $500 worth and then start paying for it which won't take very long because it was $125 for a tube. Wow. And I'm thinking $125 for a tube of poop?

1:49:20 a goo and my wife says, skip it, we don't need it. She said, get the generic. So I called the pharmacy back, I said I need the generic. This is the generic. Wow. Now this stuff, I remember buying it years ago. It was like 15 or 20 bucks max. You know, without insurance. Yeah, it's not like the... Here's what I'm thinking. When I heard this, listen to this, these people make all these excuses on how they, why they had to raise rates. If they're going to go on a fundamental, on the fundamental basis that they can, the rationale is always going to be we need to make 2 to 5% profit. How do you get more money in?

1:49:58 You essentially let every, you get in bed with the pharma companies, you jack the prices up and so what you do is you base your 2-5% profits on big revenue growth because now you're pumping out instead of paying for something that was 15 bucks, you're now having to deliver from the insurance company side $100 plus. So you've actually, and if you're going to take a profit on that, your profit on 15 bucks is a lot less if it's 2 to 5% than it is on $100 if it's 2 to 5%. So the idea is, and other people have noticed this and old pharmacists will tell you this too, none of these things were this expensive before. The whole thing is a giant scam to jack up the prices up through the roof so these guys can make, so they make more money. The same percent, same profit, oh, 2% profit.

CHAPTER 22 / 25 Discussion

Healthcare Reform Debate, Death Panels, Health Savings Accounts

The hosts debate the merits of government-run healthcare versus the current commercial system. Curry expresses skepticism based on his observations of "death panels" and age-based rationing in the Netherlands, while Dvorak argues the current private system is already worse. They discuss Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) as a tax-free alternative and criticize doctors for accepting pharmaceutical bribes.

single-payer· death panels· netherlands· health savings account· eli lilly· medical ethics

1:50:46 It's the same profit, but the revenues are so much higher that the total amount of actual income is extreme. That's why these guys can take their $10 million bonuses and all the rest of it. This is a ridiculous situation, and I think, to be honest about it, I would like to see a government... healthcare system and single-payer and the whole thing just smashed. I mean, the people who make all their arms, oh we can't have the government doing all this stuff. It's already screwed up, it's worse than the government. These people are horrible. Well, I disagree with you and I think that we should just go, I mean, the only governmental system that seems to kind of work is when you have very, very strict regulations and you have price fixing in the market which is kind of inherently un-American.

1:51:29 I've seen this work to an extent in the United Kingdom and in Gitmo Nation lowlands, and it works for the general stuff, for your goop and other things that you need and your medicines, but when it comes to real You know, big operations, you basically, and you by the way, my friend will be on the death panel list. You're going to die because they will make decisions for you about your age, about your contribution to society. And if you really need this large operation or this this very specific treatment and you won't get it so yeah you know it's not easy that is just a scare tactic no it's not a scare attack that's bullshit moral that's not true what is the difference between the government death panel and

1:52:17 Anthem Blue Cross death panel. No, no, no, there's no difference. There is no difference. I'm not saying that. And by the way, I'm not trying to put a scare. I'm telling you what I've seen. I've seen with my own eyes. I have witnessed this. My mom went through cancer treatment in the Netherlands. I saw what she could and could not get. And that was based upon her age and her functioning in society. It's not a scare tactic. It's just the way businesses run. And someone's going to make that decision for you. And whether it's your government or whether it's a commercial entity, I would rather have the commercial entity who has some form of regulations imposed on them that you can take a report over. There are regulations, there are definitely, shut up man, there are definitely regulations in England and the Netherlands for what the insurance companies can do. There are regulations. They're not here, I'm talking about here. I know, that's what I'm saying.

1:53:13 that it's not a good idea. What I'm saying is I don't think the government necessarily is the right party to be doing that because all we do is twice a week we expose all the bullshit these people are doing to us. And you can't break through and you can't sue these guys. At least you can take a big company to court if you have the law on your side, which we don't have. That's the way to do it. But the fact is the politicians and the insurance companies and big pharma are all in bed together and we've proved this over and over. over again on this very show when it comes to vaccines and swine flu and all of this stuff. So go ahead and go have the government do it for you. You know what, here's an idea. Why don't you save your money for a rainy day when you need it and you can pay for it cash like your car?

1:53:59 Actually, there is a program called the health care investment. What is it called? It's like a system that you can just basically take put your money tax-free into a bank account. It's under it's like a Sep IRA only for health. Well, that's a much better idea, but there is still a fact that the cost of these treatments are set by pharmaceuticals, by large hospitals. It's out of control. We need to blow up the whole system and start all over again, but not the way it's being done now. To let the government take over the health care system now would be, is going to be a complete total control of your life. You think it's, you think $125 is expensive for the generic goop right now? You just wait.

1:54:44 Because these guys are all on the take, John, come on, you know that? And you know what, doctors of the world, these are the people who should stand up, they're all fucking pussies, they should stand up and they should say, you know what, we're sick and tired of it because we took an oath to help people, and you know what, I don't need the third Porsche. I don't need the golf club membership. They're not all like that, but a majority is, and they're all getting bribed. Go read the book. Go read the book about the medical insider, Eli Lilly. I talked about it last week. It's in the show notes. Go read as to how these guys set up the doctors and bribe them, and it's greed that takes over. They've forgotten their ultimate mission. They've forgotten that they're there to heal people and help them.

1:55:26 That's what they've forgotten. You know what? I'm gonna blame the doctors in this. Screw it, they're getting away with murder by saying, ooh, it's the pharmaceuticals. Meanwhile, they're taking gifts and presents and trips and shit for their wives and their children's. Children's. It's a pet peeve button. Yeah, do you mind? Coincidence. John Cena's born. John C. DuBois acts pet peeve of the day. I wasn't even done with my pet peeve. I'm you know what? This is what I'm going to do. I'm blaming it on the doctors. That's the stance I'm taking right now. Doctors should stand up, they should unite and they should say you know what? We took an oath to help people. I went to school for this. I want to heal people. This is bull crap what's going on and I'm willing to put my money aside or the extra crap that I'm getting from all these payoffs to help people but the

1:56:14 The doctors won't do that because they're pussies. How do you really feel about this? Well, you know what? That's the only party that has never been blamed in this whole crappy debate. It's always the insurance companies or the pharmaceuticals. Both of them are evil. But how about the doctors? The doctors have the control. At the end of the day, it's the doctor who's going to do this for you. He's going to perform the surgery. He's going to give you the advice that you need. Where are these guys? Where are they? Where are they in standing up for their patients, the people they're supposed to really care about? You know what the nurses have more balls than the doctors. It's called a health savings account.

1:56:57 Send me that information, I'll put it in the show notes. It's probably a really good idea. No, it is. It's been around for a few years. It's a really good idea. Essentially, you take, it's just like a sepira. You take your, you take like so much money from your regular income, push it into the health savings account where it stays, collects interest, and it becomes tax free. You don't have to pay taxes on it. And then you can extract it for medical purposes as you need it. And essentially, if you do it, start it up soon enough, you'd have more than enough money for anything. And that's what you need to do. You know, I've gone, as you have gone, I've gone completely cash on everything. I'm just not going to do it anymore. I'm not going to use this. You know, if you buy a hundred thousand dollars, screw it. If you buy a million dollar house, in interest alone, you're going to pay 1.5 million dollars and you still don't own the house. It's crazy, usury. It's the same thing that these, it's no different when it comes to health care.

CHAPTER 23 / 25 Discussion

Female Sexual Dysfunction Drugs, Ractopamine in Meat

The program covers the emergence of "female sexual dysfunction" as a new medical disorder marketed by the pharmaceutical industry. They also discuss Ractopamine, a feed additive used to lean out pigs and cattle, which has been banned in China but remains in the US food supply. The hosts warn that US life expectancy is declining due to toxic additives in the commercial meat industry.

female sexual dysfunction· ractopamine· pork· beef· china· food safety

1:57:54 And it's stealing. It's stealing from people to get them under control because at the end of the day all you have is your health and that's it. That's it. And if you don't have that, goodbye. Well I got your blood pressure up. So what else do you have on the list? Well, here's something your wife may be interested in. The pharmaceutical industry is now coming out with a whole series of products for vaginal rejuvenation. Because there is where are the new antibiotics because there is a new disease Which is called female sexual dysfunction, and we've got some drugs for it John. Yes We've got some drugs because you may just not be enjoying it anymore is your man not satisfied? Female sexual dysfunction it happens to lots of us talk to your doctor

1:58:54 Conditions such as inability to regularly achieve orgasm through intercourse, low levels of sexual desire, sexual dissatisfaction. These are all medical disorders in need of treatment. Link in the show notes at noagendashow.com. It's coming. You can wait for the commercials. We're going to have a field day when it comes. As soon as the commercial hits, I'm going to be recording. We're going to have a field day. And the thing I think we should talk about before we leave, we promised on the last show, is Bloom Box. And I think we need to deconstruct this because it is what we do. And by the way, John, I hope you stay healthy for a long, long time. Okay? And you don't need any kind of medical care. And if something happens to you and your insurance company is screwing around with you or you get your government option and they don't want to pay for it, all my money, I will put all my money into your care, my friend.

1:59:46 And the way you're going, you're not gonna have any money. What are you talking about? You have to sell your plane. Well, I'm gonna put that into a savings account for your medical care. Health savings account. Health savings account. And I will. I make that promise here on this show. Yeah. So before we do the Bloom thing, I got one other item. So you know the basic thing going on in our food in the United States is just essentially toxic. So my wife came up with this one. Apparently there's this product called Ractopamine, which is a carcinogenic and it's something they don't know how to, you can't use it on people. But it turns out that if they feed it to cattle just before they butcher them, like a few days beforehand, they get, just chub out really quick.

2:00:41 And so you can get a few extra pounds off of the already probably sick animal that anyone who'd use this would produce. They use it for pigs primarily, I'm reading here. Well, they also use it for cattle. And it's used in hogs and cattle require a clearance time of two weeks for the animal can be turned into steaks and chops. But this relaxation of clearance time is in the face of industry research. They basically let them, in other words, there's residual arachtopomy in a lot of meat that you buy, especially from vendors who aren't organic. Anyway, we'll send us some stuff on the show notes about this. This is another one of these

2:01:22 I don't know why they insist on, we only usually eat beef that is. that we know the cow and is butchered locally and it's grass-fed and all the rest of it, and tastes better, and doesn't seem to have any negative health effects. But most of the stuff that's being sold today in the markets is just, it's poisonous. And here's the kicker. Just within the last year or so, our life expectancy in the United States is now less than it is in East Germany. For the last 90 pounds of live weight gain, a mere 18.5 grams of Ractopamine added to a ton of feed will increase protein by 24% and decrease fat by 34%. This is the new high fructose corn syrup. It's amazing.

2:02:15 In July 2007, Chinese officials seized US-produced pork for containing ractopamine residues. Further shipments of ractopamine-fed pork were seized in September, though this time they were Canadian in origin. Yeah, this is another thing. You know what, John? Why don't we just buy a couple cows and chop them up and give them to our knights? Screw the ring. Let's give these guys something of value. Send them some frozen chops, which is not a bad idea. Yeah, we're eating poison. There it is, we're eating poison. And then you go into the rigged healthcare system to go get fixed. Which they don't do, they just give you crap to prolong your illness. Doctors, where are you? Doctors, come out and say something. Come on, doctors. I'm still on that, man. I'm just really angry.

CHAPTER 24 / 25 Discussion

Bloombox Deconstruction, Kleiner Perkins Exit Strategy

The hosts deconstruct the "Bloombox" fuel cell technology featured on 60 Minutes. They characterize the media blitz as a PR setup designed to facilitate an exit for venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins. They suggest the ultimate goal is to sell the company to General Electric, noting that both John Doerr and GE's Jeffrey Immelt serve as advisors to the Obama administration.

bloombox· john doerr· kleiner perkins· fuel cells· google· general electric

2:03:11 All right, Bloombox, and then we got to end the show. We're way over time once again. Yeah, Bloombox. Let me set it up. Let me set it up because you really have the inside track on this. So 60 Minutes last week has this huge story with John Doerr of Kleiner Perkins, investor in Mevio, I'll have to say right off the bat, who their first clean tech green investment is in this company called Bloombox. And it's promoed and it actually starts off, I think a lot of people probably tuned out after the first three minutes. This little box can create energy and it's free. That's basically what it sounded like. Yeah. And there was a lot of noise everywhere on the internets. People going,

2:04:01 Wow, this is great! This is it! We're gonna save the world! It's a great invention! And Kleiner Perkins has invested 400, 500 million dollars in this company. Huge investment. Yeah, which is quite a lot of money. In fact, we wouldn't mind taking that kind of investment in this show. And for that, we'd go on 60 Minutes and blow John Doerr. So let's deconstruct this and let you know what's really going on here. The way you do it in Silicon Valley is of course you project a lot of stuff that essentially takes over the world. Let me just say one thing before you get into it. Venture capital investment, here's the way it works. You put money into a company.

2:04:41 and then you exit the company, and then you take that exit money, which is more than you put in, and you go invest in more companies. And there's really only two ways you can exit a company. One is through an IPO, a public offering going public, which means you're selling your venture capital stock to the public market at a huge multiple. It's literally called a multiple of earnings typically, but it's a multiple of the money they put in. and you could support them in the aftermarket, etc. But you exited, you got your money back, it's like Google. All these guys made billions of dollars off of their reasonably small initial investment in Google. But this is the exit that no longer exists. We had two, count them, two venture capital IPOs in the

2:05:26 in all of 2009 probably. It was terrible. Yeah, and so there's no exit. The only other way to do it is if you're bought by another company, which the only company that seems to be buying last year was Google. And so those are few and far between. So there's really no way for these companies to exit. So let's just say that because of things like Sarbanes-Oxley that public offerings, the market is just dead. It's dead for a number of reasons, but Sarbanes-Oxley did not help. So the only other way is to sell the company. Okay, John, take it away on Bloombox. Yeah, you want to sell the company to some other company. In this case, I think the target company is General Electric. But what the guy does, he comes on, he shows us the little thing in his hand, a little handheld thing. He says, this will power your house forever and it's only going to cost you the cost of $3,000.

2:06:16 And it's like, and it's essentially a stack of fuel cells that is, they're all proprietary. They never say anything what the specific fuel cell it is. There is a patent that you can read and it's one of many kinds of fuel cells. These are nothing new. And so they have, so the next thing you know, they have these, they make these boxes. Apparently they can only make one a month and they've sold them to, Google has a set of them, eBay has a set of them, a bunch of companies have a set of them. All the companies are in one way or another related to previous investments by Kleiner Perkins and this is one of the things you always like to do, which is seed, you know, you got a big name, oh, Google's using it. Well, maybe because, let's see, Larry Page is an investor in Bloom Tech.

2:07:00 and you know, eBay is using it. And there's somebody there that's an investor. So this is like kind of a bogus presentation. This is like the strategic partners, which is a big deal in this, you have your buddies, you call them, hey, you wanna be a strategic partner, it's gonna impress somebody. Meanwhile, but these boxes actually cost, and they're using them and they actually do work. They cost $800,000 a piece and they apparently came down in price from like two or three million a piece to make. It takes like, like I said, it takes a month to make them. So this $3,000 thing is bogus, but you know, it's possible supposedly because they think they can scale it, but there's no evidence that they can and nobody's done that before, scale fuel cells. It uses essentially natural gas

2:07:48 that goes into the thing and that's where the, you know, it turns it directly into energy and then pumps out a crap load of carbon dioxide, by the way, they don't want to talk about that. But the giveaway to me that there's something screwy about this whole thing, and I think it's like sketchy, is the fact that when they're talking about, oh, it can use any energy, it could use any source, it could use natural gas, it could use heating oil, it could do all these different things. And solar. And then he says, and solar. So I'm thinking and then I read about this in two other articles and say yeah we can use solar. Wait a minute, solar? In other words, solar energy, in other words you've got some solar electricity would go into this and do what? I mean it's already, the thing is supposed to produce electricity. What's the solar gonna do? Is it gonna, is a watt of solar gonna turn to 10 watts magically? No, you can just add it. It's just a pass-through. It's bull crap.

2:08:44 So when I saw that and I also saw some calculations that indicate that efficiency of this thing doesn't make a lot of sense and the fact that the company is so secretive about it. And it's like, you know, it's a big secret. I find that it's just a classic Silicon Valley. That's, you know, we get a lot of publicity for something that's going to save the world. It reminds me, by the way, the same people involved in this are the same people that thought the Segway was going to massively change the way we travel. So let's put a couple more names into the hat. General Colin Powell was a part of this PR blitz and he's like, oh, what's the He, by the way, is one of the limited partners at Kleiner Perkins.

2:09:22 Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has a very close relationship with several of the limited partners, they were all a part of the very next day, the very next day, coincidence? I think not! According to Richard Brewer-Hay, corporate blogger for eBay, eBay hosts unveiling of groundbreaking new Bloombox fuel cell. Now in that CBS 60 Minutes report, It looked very much like they had been using these things for a year now, but they literally did the unveiling of the fuel cell the next day on the eBay campus.

2:10:01 So this was a big PR setup and there was an analyst in the show itself who actually said, you know, General Electric's got this, you know, so this is no big deal. You know, there was lots of patents around. So, you know, if we see it today from Bloombox, then it'll be General Electric next week. And that is your setup right there. And who, by the way, is on the board of advisors for the Obama administration? Both John Doerr and Jeffrey Immelt from GE. Total setup. Total setup to sell it to GE and I can't wait to play that we told you so jingle when we hear about the sale Yeah, I think that's exactly where this is headed, but this is not gonna save the world or anything like it Oh everybody's you know a Kleiner or all jacked up about it Wow and they do and they actually think they can lower the price But I don't see how this this is not a CMOS technology. This is a fuel cell has it You don't you can't shrink it

2:10:58 So, I mean, it's just a fuel cell. I mean, these things are all over the place. They're in cars, they're here and they're there. It's nothing new. It's not even a new technology. He just has a different, you know, it's just different fuel cell. That's about it. So what? There you go. So now, not only can you look smart at cocktail parties, because you can say, it's just crap. It's just a setup. They're just trying to sell that company. It was their first investment. They need an exit. It might get you laid. Probably not. Well, it's possible. Anything's possible. You know, chicks like that nerdy talk. I don't know if that's true. No, I saw a bumper sticker that just yesterday said, talk nerdy to me. What was it? A big fat guy driving the car? Hey, just because you're nerdy doesn't mean you have to be overweight, my friend. By the way, let people in glass houses. Hey. You're gonna refuse treatment because you're overweight.

CHAPTER 25 / 25 Discussion

Outro, Healthcare Argument Recap, Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode with a final exchange regarding their healthcare debate. Curry reiterates his call for doctors to stand up against the current system, while Dvorak remains cynical about the possibility of reform. They sign off with their traditional location tags and a reminder for the upcoming Thursday show.

gitmo nation· juan de fuca straits· healthcare· doctors· no agenda

2:12:03 Treatment for you. Alright. Hey, Thursday's show will come to you from Gitmo Nation East as I am getting on an airplane in a couple hours from now. I'll get the show out before I leave. So we should have an even better connection. The further away I get from John, the better the connection is. It's a fact. Well, Skype is a European-based operation, so I think that's the reason. Alright, John. It was kind of fun arguing with you for a moment there. Yeah. I think you were frustrated. Yeah, frustrated that all you were telling me that I was using a scare tactic, that was pretty insulting.

2:12:51 Hello? Yeah, you basically insulted me. Boy, it doesn't take much to set you off. Well, this is a big deal. I've seen how it works. I've seen the cancer treatment and the decisions that are made from close up in a government-run system. And it sucks blowing chunks. It's no good. It's just no good. So let's do something about consumer protection then. Yeah, well the doctors have to stand up and unite. That's what has to happen. That's not going to happen ever. Why not? Because they're all on the take?

2:13:29 It's just that I don't know why not. Well, I have hope. I have hope. I am hope and I'm positive. And I think we can motivate doctors to stand up. They all know the scam. They know what's going on. But it's too cozy for them. I'm generalizing, of course. But I think in general, it's too cozy. And they're like, eh, let's not rock the boat. Anyway, I love you, man. Noagendashow.com. This is where you're supposed to say, I love you too. But it sounds like a commercial. Alright coming to you from the hilltop watchtower in Gitmo Nation West in the Republic of California. I'm Adam Curry and from the godforsaking Juan de Fuca Straits waiting for the tsunami I am John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Thursday right here on NOAAgenda.