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00:00 Yeah, we'll do it. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, June 12th, 2025. This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media Assassination episode 1772. This is no agenda. Watching democracy die! And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6, In the Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all awaiting All-Kings Day on Saturday, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. No it's not. It's completely believable and just fantastic to watch.

00:44 The M5M, everybody trying to get everyone all psyched up and ready for No King's Day and you know, just it's like wag the dog in real time. It's amazing what is taking place right before our very eyes. Do you know the ACLU of Texas contributed like three million dollars toward this event? Oh yeah, of course. What is the end to some other ACLU's? I thought the ACLU took that money that people gave them so they could defend people for civil liberties, not to do protests, not to print signs on the 250th anniversary of the Army, which is

01:33 Which is really what they're trying to downplay here. They're trying to make our army look like a bunch of schmucks by doing this thing on the exact same day. No, it's too long. But you remember in 2017, I have the clip but it's too long. I called the ACLU Oh yes, you actually made a fuss about this on the show. Yeah, when they were organizing the protest because Trump had done Muslim travel ban, which was not a Muslim travel ban. And I called him up and said, so because I've always supported the ACLU. And they're like, no, no, no, we're organizing these protests. But is that in your charter? Is that what you're supposed to do? Well, yeah. Oh, OK. Well, no, I'm not supporting you anymore.

02:21 Now, what's interesting is that even the people who somehow have been psy-opt into this whole idea of Trump is throwing out legal people, just separating families, ripping four-year-old girls from behind their school desks. They are now recognized, well, you know, the people who are protesting, they're just, you know, they're just problem people. And you know, by the way, they're like Marxists and socialists. Yeah, that's exactly who the problem is. Yeah, of course it is. And it's the unions, it's the Socialist Workers Party.

03:04 They're the ones who are sending people out. It's actually not the unions as much as it is one specific union. Which specific union? The SEIU. SEIU, yes. Which is the? Service Employers International Union. And do they have illegals in their union? They must. So, you know. The SEIU is a fallback. When I helped organize the Bay Area Air Pollution Control District Union. I was a Democrat back in the day. And we had gone through, we knew we didn't get enough votes to unionize and we ended up with SEIU as our base union because the other guys bailed out. There was CalPERS or some Cal, one very big union that was powerful in California. They told us, nah, get lost. And some other union told us to get lost.

03:59 And SCIU jumped in, yeah we'll do it. And I got to take some of their training, some training. Oh, you took some of the training, alright. Yeah, the union itself, it's pretty bad. So, he's like... He's in my memoir. So, ladies and gentlemen, John C. DeWaarick has been dead for 20 years, but he promises his memoir is coming along with the Vinegar book. It's coming, don't worry, it's happening. So... Um, are they, are they truly commies? I mean, is the SEIU a bunch of communists or, I mean, why are they doing this? I wouldn't say they're Marxists necessarily, but they're pretty close. Definitely workers control the means of production. The main emphasis in some of the training is, Hey, if you're,

04:53 Not specifically supposed to pick up that screw that that guy dropped. Yeah, you don't pick it up, right? Yeah, but I mean they are sending people out to protests illegal immigrants, just illegals, aliens, illegal aliens. In favor of illegal immigrants. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. But it just doesn't make sense. However, what is it? It makes sense to me that I was watching somebody say I didn't get it on today's show, but somebody there's a lot of clips about I guess it's Christie is her name, Christie Walton. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who's in the you know, it's like, oh, she's just another rich chick who's, you

05:35 you know, inherited a bunch of money and she's got a guilty conscience. And then I'm, guy points out in his video, this is so Walton can keep their cheap employees. Well, not just, I mean, if you look at No King's Day, it's not just about ICE and immigration. So the way I look at it from the Walton family perspective is tariffs in China. They have huge factories. Half of Wuhan is Walmart. Yeah. So I think they're just mad at Trump and this is what they do. Now, I have some, this is a very short boots on the ground. There's so much material. But when I heard this, I'm like, yeah, I think a lot of these middle class Karen, which doesn't have to be white, just middle class Karens in Los Angeles. So here's just three quick little snippets.

06:25 Man on the street, but the last one really really says it all about why they're really protesting what they're really mad about I'm not okay with this I'm not okay with people getting taken from their jobs and being taken from when they're going into the federal building for their appointments to do this the right way. We don't feel safe. We're standing up for the children that can't stand up for themselves or their parents. We need immigrant workers in this city really badly. We've just gone through devastating fires. We've lost 14,000 structures. And if you look at who builds this city, it's immigrants. There it is. Who's going to build our homes back?

07:04 No one will want to be in construction! And this is exactly what an actual Karen- Isn't Whoopi's real name Karen? Whoopi Goldberg? Yeah, it is actually. Yeah, she's a real Karen. So listen to what she says at the end of this clip after they do some pontificating. I'm sorry, it's from The View. The ICE agents, those are nonpartisan actors. You think this is the conservative girl? For the most part, who signed up for jobs, have served under multiple administrations. They did not necessarily sign up to be doing this and they're following an order of the commander in chief. And we could say They could all, I guess, resign en masse tomorrow to start demonizing those individuals as opposed to what's relevant. No one's demonizing them. We're saying this is a result of ICE. Correct. But I think it's very important to remember it's a commander in chief that's made these decisions. They're following orders.

07:51 You know, think back y'all. Where have you heard that before? 1930s? I'm just following orders by my commander in chief. But again, can I just say, I want to finish. No, no, because I, because. No, no, because Whoopi's got something important to say here. Pay attention. Karen's coming. This is my point. We don't want to be what they were. A person in service in the, in the armed services always follows their commander in chief. That's the way it's supposed to be. But what is happening here is out of sync, because the commander in chief is not following the directions of the Constitution. Well, we'll get to that in a minute. So we have a bit of an issue. And also, just as we're going—no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Here we go. I just want to say, you know, construction places, you're going to have a harder time finding people who are going to be able to come and do your house.

08:43 Who are they going to get to pick all the fruit and the vegetables? Because Americans don't want to do it. We know that. The farmers are saying, the Americans don't want to do this. And the tariffs on top of that is going to make everything so expensive. Well, that too, but getting people... It's a mess. Food is going to be sitting and rotting. Because there's no one to grab it is my point. We'll be right back. If the fruit is rotting, they will offer more money for people to come and pick it up. It's not just gonna go away. This is the basic system.

09:29 That we have in place. It's how capitalism works, of course. But oh no, and it's so elitist. It's unbelievably arrogant, yeah. Elitist and arrogant. And Americans won't do this. What? American? I have a guy, I've got Paul, who is literally shoveling shit out of my septic tank today. Americans do this stuff. And you know what? Charges me a good penny for it too. Because that's how it goes. I don't want to do it myself. I don't know how to do it. So this is just bullcrap. And all the... we limit on the, oh yes, oh whoopee, you tell them whoopee, no one can clean my house, no one can build my house, oh my fruit is rotting, oh my avocados, please. The worst though, the worst, and I had to pull two clips, is the liberal intellectual elites of pivot.

10:22 I had, I've stayed away from getting Cara and Scott clips, but I had to pull two clips because the professor... You needed intervention. Where were you when I needed that intervention? It's been a while since I've pulled clips from Pivot. It's still my hate listen. I get through it and like, okay, I got it. But they are influential in elitist Democrat circles. Not as influential as they thought they were because if you recall their contract was up for renegotiation and Professor Scott was like, well, we're gonna go make hundreds of millions of dollars like Joe Rogan cuz we're that good and they renegotiated and they have all kinds of caveats and other you know, they can do special things They got it. They got a crappy deal because they're not worth a podcast just aren't worth that much and

11:15 So they overthought their influence, but without a doubt they make more money than we do. So here is the professor's take on what is happening. It's a doozy. I've called this a complete overreach by a desperate despot. Your thoughts? Well, I can do some alliteration. A complete overreach by a desperate despot. Your thoughts? Well, I've been called hysterical for you know, a while now comparing or drawing similarities between America right now and 30s Germany. And you don't have to be Hitler to borrow methods and worst practices from his playbook. I would love to hear Scott, Professor Scott, do a podcast with Brett's wife. What's his name? Heather. Well, what do you think, Heather? Well, Scott, let me tell you. Okay, Heather.

12:06 And that is when tanks roll through cities, it doesn't feel like strength. It feels like a funeral for civil society. Germany in the 30s didn't collapse overnight. It slid into tyranny by normalizing soldiers where citizens used to stand. You know, early Nazi propaganda decided, and we're doing the same thing, we have real problems overseas. You know, there are still Russian, you know, Russia is still invading Europe. in But if you look at, and again, I think I just, this has so many echoes of 30s Germany, early Nazi propaganda emphasized it. Now, early 30s Germany, John, was it like this? I wasn't there to know, but I will say this, I'm liking this for a reason that's not wouldn't on the surface wouldn't seem, well, why would you like this?

13:16 I honestly believe these two, and Scott in particular, are believing their own bullcrap. Yeah. And they're actually having, they're gonna have nervous breakdowns or something. This is not healthy. No, no. It's, he's, and he barely opened it because I saw the YouTube video version of this because of course we've got to do video versions, Scott. And he barely opens his mouth when he talks, he talks like this. And he also has no lips. I believe this is really like early 30s. This is a slit. It's like a snake. Scott talks through a slit like a snake. Germany's problems were due to internal saboteurs, communists, Jews, immigrants.

14:00 And that today, if you look at this rhetoric, they're blaming immigrants, academics, protesters, journalists. It mirrors kind of the same playbook here. When you have a government who turns its military force inward against journalists, migrants or citizens who believe in exercising their right to protest in a civil, peaceful manner and justice, you're not defending democracy. You're rehearsing for something much darker. So it's not the protests themselves, it's not what's going. This is another step towards normalizing an attempt to rebrand.

14:35 militarization as patriotism. So I just love that. You're right. They are sniffing their farts and like, oh, smells great. And this clip, second clip is much shorter, but man, they bring up a doozy here. He can try. He can try. That's what he's doing. He's trying desperate. He's a desperate. That's why I called him the complete overreach of a desperate desperate. Every movie he's making lately. to me is both despotic, incompetent and also insecure in a lot of ways. But we'll see. The way you just outlined is my vision of how you would restore and heal America. Okay, question for you. How do you think when the Democrats clearly come back into control because they believe this once Trump is gone everyone's gonna fall down. What do you think his vision is for restoring America? What could it be?

15:28 to bring back some programs or to... No, we have to heal. We have to... How did we heal from World War II? How did we heal by stringing up all the Republicans? It was my vision of how you would restore and heal America. That you'd have moral clarity. and have the effectively like a Nuremberg trial. You said, OK, you knew this was a lie. You nailed it. Nuremberg trial string him up, hang him, noose him all. Let's hang them up and have the effectively like a Nuremberg trial. You said, OK, you knew this was a lie. You purposely tried to create violence and mayhem. You purposely tried to overrun our elections. You purposely committed fraud. You purposely leveraged

16:12 our international sway to enrich your children. I love the idea of a stream of perp walks and moral clarity around this stuff, that America's laws have a long memory. I love that. That's a fantasy of mine. I dream of that at night. My fear, Cara, is that there's actually a lot of people who like what's going on right now. Oh man. Jacques Hughes! Where was the Republicans Nuremberg trials? Where was the Nuremberg trial for the COVID vaccine? Where were all those for COVID? Where those Nuremberg trials didn't happen? Just to set the record straight and then I'll let you roll. This is from the John Batchelor show, which I only get as a podcast. We're doing podcast people. John Yoo, who's from Berkeley and Civitas Institute.

16:56 in Austin, of all places, explains the law, Title 10, under which this is taking place. The president can call out the National Guard in case of an invasion, and then it says second condition, or there's a rebellion, but then there's third condition. The president is unable to execute the laws of the United States. So any one of those three, and the media narrative has ignored this third provision. This third provision is obviously the one that's at stake here. Can President Trump legitimately find that the execution of the laws of the United States, here the immigration laws in Los Angeles,

17:40 is being blocked. He can't execute them and if he can't, then the law allows him to call out the National Guard. Bingo! That's it? Yeah. That nails it. Yeah. And so what... You know, you is one of those guys. You. You! Yous! Yous! He was the guy, if I'm not mistaken, is the one who came up with the rationale for torture. Yes he did. No, was that you? Was that you? No, but there was a... Yeah, I think it was. No, it was a different guy. It was another you type guy. I don't know. You is pretty good. He's one of those guys who knows how to bend the law. Him and Dershowitz. But this is not bending the law. No, it's not. No, I mean interpreting the law in a very

18:21 strong, yeah it's not bending at all, it's actually finding the rules and then applying them. But you know so when you keep hearing it's against the Constitution, he's not upholding the Constitution, that is in fact the opposite. One more clip because I just love this doozy from CNN. CNN, who you'd think would probably not favor President Trump or any of his policies or any of this. They did a little poll amongst legal immigrants, immigrant residents and citizens of the United States. Surprising results. Yeah, let's just sort of start off on the fact that

18:58 immigrant citizens immigrant voters foreign-born voters have gone tremendously to the right on this issue in 2024 and 2025 versus where they were in 2020 closest to her trust war in immigration you go back to 2020 democrats get this held a 32 point lead on this issue immigrant voters were in the democratic camp Jump forward to 2024, 2025. Look at that shift. A 40 point shift to the right among immigrant voters. Republicans now lead on this issue by 8 points over Democrats, more so than any other group. that I could find the group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration were in fact immigrants themselves, immigrants who are registered to vote in this country. Boom! All right, drop it there. By the way, you're right. I was thinking Alberto Gonzales, who was co-author with John Yoo. No, no, Gonzales is a lightweight. Well, John Yoo, you're right. John Yoo. Yoo!

19:53 So, this is... Well, I have a take on this that I want to present. Oh, yes. Because I think there's dirty tricks going on. No! Dirty tricks? What? Gambling going on at the protest? And I think it's at a level that we haven't seen since Segretti and Dick Tuck during the Nixon administration where he had these guys that were... I was barely alive, but yeah. Well, there was some great stuff that used to be done. And it's been kind of passed over and I think Trump's behind a lot of this. And... Okay, I love it when you say Trump's behind a lot of this. I'm like, yeah, believable, lay it on me. I want to hear what's going on. This has to be about the midterms. Everything's about the midterms, right? Everything's eventually, but yeah, well, that's where it's all, they have to, but this is a long strategy and I don't, and I think there's denial, plausible deniability. There's no way this is going to be tracked to Trump. This is just a thesis. I can't prove it.

20:55 It just seems a little suspicious and you get hints of it when you start listening to some TikTokers. Now I want to start off with, to organize this is different, but this is the, I want to start off with this, with what I see is going on with TikTok. They're using TikTok in much the same way as the, mainstream used to be used or that Sinclair Broadcasting used to use where everybody said the same thing. Somehow they've gotten to the influencers and I want to play these jaywalking... Somehow it's easy, you just call up the agency. There's agencies for the influencers. You call them up, they give them the script. There's a series of clips where they, which are bogus clips, but this is the top jaywalking clips.

21:42 Being in a country that you're in illegally is a civil offense, not a criminal one. You know what else is a civil offense? Jaywalking. And being undocumented is not a criminal offense, it's a civil one. And if you've ever jaywalked, congratulations because you've also committed a civil offense. Have you ever sped over the speed limit? Have you ever drank or smoked underage? Have you ever drank and then driven a car? What about jaywalking? Being undocumented in America is a civil offense. it's not a criminal one. it's the same caliber of crime as a traffic offense. just a reminder in case anyone forgot, being undocumented is a civil offense, not a criminal one. if you've so much as littered on public property, i never want to hear, oh but they broke a law!

22:30 a justification for your hate. Just for the record, being here undocumented is not a criminal offense, it's a civil one. So that means if you've ever jaywalked, you too have committed a civil offense, okay? And if you're really concerned about criminals being in this country, then I have to ask, why did you vote for one? Not to interrupt you, but I did look up this civil offense because I knew you had this clip. Yes, I did too. And here's what I came up with. Civil offense is unlawful entry or presence in the United States violates immigration laws, specifically the Immigration and Nationality Act, the INA. This is handled as a civil matter through administrative process like deportation or removal proceedings conducted by immigration authorities.

23:19 E.g. immigration and customs enforcement or ICE being undocumented or overstaying a visa generally does not result in criminal prosecution on its own. Right. So, but it's great. This is a very interesting way to program completely ignorant people who have not had any education. Oh, these people, by the way, jaywalking, I looked it up too, jaywalking is a criminal offense in most jurisdictions. Oh, interesting. That's even better. So they have this wrong. Now in California, while I was researching that and I also found

23:57 The criminal part of the illegal immigration is how you entered the country. That could be a felony or misdemeanor. Yes, that can be a criminal offense. But when you're just floating around, yeah, they're right about that, but they're not really right. This is just specious. In fact, I have that illegal entry Entering the US without inspection or authorization is a misdemeanor under 8 USC 1325 punishable by fines or up to six months in prison for the first offense Illegal re-entry after deportation is a felony with penalties of up to two years in prison or more if the individual has a criminal history. So while looking this up curiously, and I don't think this is generally known, and I still like to find out that some Vietnamese assemblyman in California, they put a bill in play that made it legal. In fact, they called it decriminalization because it was a criminal act.

24:57 the decriminalization of jaywalking in California. Signed by Newsom. I remember this somehow. Signed by Newsom and it goes to the, at least from what I can tell, it gets to the point where you can just walk against the light into the street. Really? So what's the point of the light? No, screw the light. So I mean this is unbelievable. But this kind of propaganda is like okay, this is what you're gonna do now. You're gonna take these dumb women, and I will say many of them are not, I can use this term, not unattractive.

25:36 They weren't the blue-haired, nose-ringing women. But they are all over-socialized and undereducated. Well, they're just dummies. And obviously, you're right. There's an agency called up the main group. I don't know what they had to pay for this, but these girls are probably getting... They're all young. 750 bucks. I'm getting. I think that's probably what it is. That's kind of high. I think you get him to do it for five, but anyway Can we get him to say more cost can we get him to talk basically? Prostitution by the way can we get him to talk about the no agenda show for five?

26:15 You know, I should mention it. Yeah, yeah. It might not be a bad idea. Why spend on Facebook ads if you can get these gals? So I run into these other clips, they're talking about that you played the clip of the guy from CNN who goes crazy. He's great by the way. Yeah. And so I got these two clips that I have to play. This is the legal immigrant rant from a woman, legal immigrant rant. I am a legal immigrant and I want to tell you something. I'm disgusted by what people from other countries like Mexico are doing right now in my new country. I came from Mexico. I came legally. I have worked all my life here to get what I have.

27:02 I have never asked for a penny to the government. I didn't come here to get something from the government. I came for an opportunity and I got it. And I have the American dream. What about all of those people protesting in California and New York? What are they doing? They are burning the city. If you don't like to be deported and you want to stay here, you have to have your best behavior. Not the worst behavior. You think that we want you here? With that behavior of burning cars, burning the entire city? Why? Why do we talk to the authorities on your behalf? There is no meaning on that. And for the people that are defending these violent attackers, people that don't deserve to be here, shame on you.

27:59 Shame on you because you're supposed to talk and to tell them the truth. You're not supposed to line up with them. You're supposed to tell them, go to your country. You are waving the flag of another country that you love. Go. You don't need to be here. You don't deserve to be here. You don't deserve another opportunity in this country because apparently you don't love this country like I do. So. Go away. Oh man, where's the where's the national anthem playing on that? She's too much. I'm gonna see now. Yeah, this is my last clip before I tell you this body my theory. Okay. I'm excited

28:40 No, that's not that great. But this is the Mexican flag dude. Now this guy, this guy is a... This dude is good. Did you see him? What, the guy with the chest? The shirt off? Oh yeah, sure. On top of the car? The guy looks, if he's not MS- He doesn't have enough testes. He is the iconic image of this peaceful protest. That's the way I see it. Yeah, and he is not happy about what he's seeing. So let me get this straight. Just so I could clarify, you don't want to go back to Mexico. You're protesting to stay away from Mexico, but you're waving the Mexican flag and you're waving it with pride. You're waving it in the United States, the country you're trying to stay in, the country you don't want to leave, but yet you're waving the Mexican flag with pride. Okay? That seems normal to you? That seems logical? That's not stupid at all?

29:37 None of that's stupid. All right, you guys, you guys are embarrassment to the Mexican culture and to the United States culture. You guys are embarrassment to everybody around you and you should be ashamed of yourself. Do better. Was that the Mexican flag dude? Yeah. Huh? So that no that that was the guy bitching about the mission. Oh, okay. So here's what's going on. I can't I see it over and over again. There's no way that Trump somehow dirty tricking it is not behind the Mexican flags. Those too many Mexican flags, they're all brand new, they're all over the place, nobody's been picked up or interviewed holding one of them. There's a few jokers wearing them as scarves. But for the most part, the Mexican flag has been planted just for this purpose.

30:30 That Mexican flag is showing up way too much in all these protests and it is a scam and I think it's a beauty. Too many Mexican flags dot com everybody. Too many Mexican flags. This is bull crap. There is no way. I think you're right. They're all brand new flags, too. Somebody came along. And the joke is they're all made in China. That's the best part. Well, that is funny. And it is probably true. But the guy with the motorcycle and he's driving around the Mexican flag and he's going around in a circle and the guy on top of the car waving the Mexican flag and they got that shot all over the place. And a lot of them posed with that guy on the car with the Mexican flag surrounded by Mexican flags. Give me a break, people. Yeah.

31:16 Yeah, I think you're spot on. Overdoing it. I think you're spot on about that and they're brand new. It's not like, hey mom, I'm going to take the flag with me today. It's not like that. Yeah, yeah, well, brilliant. I thought it was genius and the M5M and everybody they don't know what they're flat-footed. They're so stupid. Well, they have a job to do. You know, they have a job. So I just have a couple minutes here. This is meant to be interrupted again of just people out on the streets of Los Angeles. That's a good one. What? I mean you gave me the permission to interrupt knowing I'm going to anyway. This is meant to be interrupted. But you're telling me in advance you're not gonna get irked at me. No, it's very important. This clip is made for you to interrupt. I wanted to make sure that you weren't like being on your best behavior.

32:08 So you were gonna make sure that I was gonna actually listen. Yeah. Yeah, there you go people with big heavy hammers pounding the concrete and pounding curbs pounding it breaking up and handing these big chunks of concrete to people and they would take you that concrete going up in bridges and dropping it into the roof of a car and They were throwing it at our police. They were throwing it at our soldiers that are there. I could tell you there were certain areas of that. I forgot to tell you there's some Trump stuff in here too. Los Angeles, you could have called it an insurrection. It was terrible. But these are paid insurrectionists. These are paid

32:43 troublemakers, they get money. This weekend was marked with absolute and total violence, brutal repression and attacks, coordinated attacks against our community. For us as indigenous people to these lands, to this continent, this is nothing new. The military going after us is nothing new. So this is part of the narrative that's out there, hey man, we own this place, we were here before you, there was no war about it, it's ours. Advocate for violence. But when they use it, by the way, yes, there was not only a war about it, but we also paid Mexico for a bunch of the property that we took. And so there were there was a war and reparations. I mean, we own this. This is not some bull. This is bull crap. This may actually be a does also a side off. Of course, it is brutal violence against our people and kidnapping mothers and fathers from children is violent when they do things like that. We have every right.

33:38 every historic right to defend our communities by any ways that we can and we're going to continue to do so. A historic right, John. They have a historic right to defend our communities. We own this place. And by the way, after years of Oh, we thank the indigenous original owners of this place in California for letting us be here and letting us have this meeting. Yeah, no wonder people start to think this way. Remember that California was part of Mexico. All of the Southwest is Mexico. So the roots are really deep. in that region. And what they're saying is no, not in our community. We don't agree with the term illegal. We're undocumented. We've been here for thousands of years before you guys showed up. Wow! How old is that guy? I don't know. He's in his 40s, I think. No, he's got to be thousands, thousands of years old. We're anti-capitalist. We think socialism does work. Real socialism. Is there a country we can look to?

34:39 To kind of model the socialism idea the only model would be Soviet Union the first four years You're in the wrong country, bro Come on. I know I know where you got this clip, but I saw this clip Oh, I can tell you where it came from. It's Jesse waters without Jesse waters. Oh Jesse waters played the yeah He's got he's got some of the better producers on Fox and yeah, I He may have the best show on Fox, including Gutfeld. But what happens is, you know, I hear the lunch ladies here, you know, they're very worried, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's, oh, you know, the protest, the riots, it's going to be here on Saturday, no kings, there's 50 Democrats in Fredericksburg, I'm sure they're going to be out there protesting, no kings, you know, whatever. But the way it plays on television, which is what everyone just gets sucked into, and, you know, just looking at the quad, except for the

35:35 the 787 crash which we'll talk about later. Oh, there's a 787 crash? Are you being facetious? I don't know this. Oh yeah, 747 coming from India to Gatwick crashed on takeoff I think there's one survivor, but 747 no 787 okay, we said 747 I said 787 okay well 787 which is a nice plane never has never had an incident like this and crashing Gatwick no no it was it was leaving India and

34:39 To kind of model the socialism idea the only model would be Soviet Union the first four years You're in the wrong country, bro Come on. I know I know where you got this clip, but I saw this clip Oh, I can tell you where it came from. It's Jesse waters without Jesse waters. Oh Jesse waters played the yeah He's got he's got some of the better producers on Fox and yeah, I He may have the best show on Fox, including Gutfeld. But what happens is, you know, I hear the lunch ladies here, you know, they're very worried, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's, oh, you know, the protest, the riots, it's going to be here on Saturday, no kings, there's 50 Democrats in Fredericksburg, I'm sure they're going to be out there protesting, no kings, you know, whatever. But the way it plays on television, which is what everyone just gets sucked into, and, you know, just looking at the quad, except for the

35:35 the 787 crash which we'll talk about later. Oh, there's a 787 crash? Are you being facetious? I don't know this. Oh yeah, 747 coming from India to Gatwick crashed on takeoff I think there's one survivor, but 747 no 787 okay, we said 747 I said 787 okay well 787 which is a nice plane never has never had an incident like this and crashing Gatwick no no it was it was leaving India and

36:15 And so what, and of course there's tons of video of it. So it takes off and then it just kind of floats down and crashes and burns with 50 tons of jet fuel on it and into a hospital building, which I'm surprised the hospital building didn't collapse unto itself. Sorry, maybe a bit too early, but I had to say it. And, you know, everyone's like, everyone's like, he didn't have his flaps, he had his flaps up, his wheels were down. So first of all, nobody knows nothing right now. But the lone survivor supposedly said there was a loud bang upon takeoff, which could mean a compressor stall. The ram air turbine appears to have come out.

36:58 That's a little kind of fan that drops down beneath the fuselage to generate electricity in the case of an electrical outage. So that could be responsible for a whole bunch of things. My guys on the inside, they say they think it might be one of those Windows 95 crashed on takeoff and it blew everything out and they couldn't restore it. Which is, that's kind of frightening. Because all this stuff is fly-by-wire, it's all computerized. But I doubt this is pilot error. Yeah, it was 42 degrees centigrade. So the possibility exists, we were off topic by the way, thanks to me. You said I could interrupt. Yeah. So you think it might be a software failure? Yes.

37:49 Yeah. Now who makes this jet? Let me think what the company name. B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-air Boeing. Boeing. Boeing. Yeah, this is not good for Boeing. It's not good for those 290 people or their families either, to be honest about it. And it's a bad day for aviation. Day wrecker. Day wrecker. Well, no. Boeing has got to be fixed. Yeah, but you know, everybody's on TV. Well, you know, I didn't, I saw only the slats deployed. I can imagine. The flaps weren't out. The gear wasn't up, which all true. But what is the cause? Is it because, I love this one, well, the pilot clearly, he pulled the flaps up instead of the gear. Oh, please. You know, these are the two knobs

38:35 in every aircraft that have remained the same as far as I know. I have not flown a 787 in the cockpit. But the flaps is a lever that you go from down to up and the lever is a flat piece of plastic that resembles a flap. And the gear is a lever that has a rubber wheel on it so when you grab it you're like, that's a wheel! So that seems highly unlikely. that that happened. But you know, everyone's like, oh, I got something to say. I'm an expert in aviation. I have my private pilot's license. Put me on today. Well, I'm glad it happened during the show so we don't have to deal with it. All right. So anyway, let's go back because we have this big protest coming up on Saturday. No kings, no kings. And you know, this is a lame protest, by the way. I should mention it's up front.

39:29 No king? Who cares? What is no kings? Well, it was already scheduled. Now he's Hitler, now he's king. Is he Hitler, which is a dictator, who is elected dictator, or is he a king, which is a monarch? Wake up your minds. Well, it's also, you know, there's a lot of groups who are grabbing onto this, which is going to screw it up because Winston-Salem, for instance, you know, they're calling it Queen's Day Rising, no kings, and they're adding trans to the whole issue. What? Yeah, oh yeah, that's going to screw everything up.

40:08 Yeah, they're adding. Oh, this is well, maybe that's also an op to do that. That would be pretty smart. Everything's an op with you. Well, I got to know Ron's up because of this flag thing. And when I kept seeing it, I said, it's up day, everybody. And then we had in the topper to make it make me really think in terms of op was listening to these dumb chicks going on and on about civil versus jaywalking. Yeah. Yeah, let me see. We have, oh, okay. Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago. This is the moment when Democrat politicians like Gavin Newsom, everybody's seen him. Arrest me then! Come on, Tom Homan, arrest me!

40:53 So everyone's got big cojones all of a sudden. Mayor Brandon Johnson says it's cruel and unconstitutional. Right now in our country there's no check and balance. It doesn't exist right now. Violent class. I think it's checks and balances, Mr. Mayor, but... All right. Check. There's no check and balance! Your checkbook? What is going on? Check and balance. Right now in our country there's no check and balance. It doesn't exist right now. Violent clashes between heavily armed immigration and customs enforcement agents and Los Angeles protesters creating alarm in Chicago with word of an impending enforcement action. The federal agents have been informed that they have 48 hours.

41:40 to stand by and be ready to deploy. The mayor's chief of staff planning for what many fear will be a chaotic and dangerous apprehension of undocumented Chicago residents. There will be tactical teams, there will be mini tanks, there will be other tools that they use in which they plan to do raids as we saw in Los Angeles. Protests against the ICE raid similar to what we witnessed locally last night another concern for the mayor and Chicago police seeking to preserve public safety and people's rights to assemble and protest. Which is the funny thing because

42:21 I don't think anyone has a problem with if you want to protest, you want to carry your flags around, that's fine. But that's not what it is. That's not what this is. And there's no Kings Day. Remember we talked about the 50-51 organization? So 50501. So from another podcast, because you can't get anything from television. This is true. Right side up with Nivea Souza and she delves into what's podcast so bear with me. She'll delve into what 5051 is. 5051 movement. It is a political campaign that launched earlier this year in response to the new administration and their policies.

43:03 It all started on Reddit. From one Reddit user, all of this came to be. The movement has rapidly gained momentum. They are now protesting across the nation, causing a whole stir and a lot of conspiracies. So the 50-51's core objectives are what you would probably expect, an investigation into Elon Musk when he was still with the administration, all of Trump's appointees, impeaching Donald Trump, reinstatement of DEI initiatives, protections of LGBTQ plus rights and minority groups, reinstatement of aid to Ukraine, lifting tariffs, etc. The movement officially launched in early February of this year in response to the inauguration. They had 80 different protests in all 50 states. They continued to protest in February. They had Not My President's Day. Thousands of people nationwide protested the administration's policies. In March, they did March 4th for democracy. On April 5th, they had one of the biggest

43:51 coordinated protests across the country, the biggest of this year. They're hands-off protests. They were in collaboration with 150 different organizations, including ACLU and the Women's March. There was 1,400 different protests that broke out across all 50 states. An estimate of 3 to 5 million people participated in these protests. According to the protesters, they involved a coalition of over 169 progressive labor union, pro-democracy, civil rights, LGBT Q plus and women's rights groups. This was a huge deal and I live somewhere where you don't see protesters. I live really rural. I did not know this was even going on because there was such little media coverage. I would just like to talk about the fact that this lady with the megaphone leading this chanting about democracy, she's decked out and everything pro-Palestinian.

44:46 The irony Exactly. So, what the M5M does though is they love this. All they want is video of burning cars, burning Trump effigies. That's all they want. And Rachel Maddow, I know I do need an intervention, I apologize. She could not promote, for her whole show, I just got a couple of clips. She kept saying, no kings, June 14th everywhere. No kings, June 14th, everybody come on out, June 14th, no kings everywhere. When Trump issued his order to federalize the National Guard over the objections of California's government this weekend, that order was not specific to Los Angeles. It was not specific to California, that order that he issued. He's coming for you.

45:38 It's something that he could use to send National Guard troops anywhere or even active duty forces. Now he's sending 700 Marines supposedly from the Marine Corps base at 29 palms. They're gonna come and kill you. And that is a portrait of weakness. Weakness. That's the best! You know they keep going on with this, he's weak, he's insecure is another one which is like all the people that you've ever seen. I don't see him as insecure. Is it time for the Trump rotation again? Do we need to, uh... Well, I think that some things could be added to it. I think we need to listen to the Trump rotation. Well, maybe you're right. Maybe we should do it and then bring the new stuff in, because Insecure wasn't on the other rotation. Well, let's see what's in the Trump rotation from how many years ago now. Is it seven years ago? I have my list and you might want to see if there's anything I left out. This is the Trump rotation. There's two categories. There's the regular and then there's the criminal. But here we go. Ready? Yep.

46:37 Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist, bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties, insane, tweets too much, small hands, small penis, big red button, criminal. Mean, racist, immature, thin-skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and clown.

47:20 No wonder we're making America white again. how to get the support of his people. And he knows it. What? He can't get the support of his people and he knows it. That is what you get when you have a weak president, an unpopular president who sees the people are against him, who can't defend his actions, who is losing support over time and not gaining it even on the issues where he thinks he's supposed to be strongest. This is a president who has no other ideas.

48:07 And no skills to get him out of this political pickle that he is in. And who has therefore rushed right to the end. and has decided that if the people are against him, well then he will bludgeon them. He will literally bludgeon them into not protesting anymore. Because the protests against him are working. Oh. And growing. And working. And they're right. It's working. Now let's get into the promotional part here. And you ain't seen nothing yet because... Yeah, it's coming. Among other things, what is this? This is no King's Week. It's no King's week. It's a week all of a sudden. When did it become a week? I don't know. I didn't get the memo, but it's no King's week. That's this week. Remember, this upcoming weekend, Saturday, June 14th, is likely to be the largest set of protests yet against Trump and the Trump administration. And Trump knows it's coming.

49:00 You remember that really giant day of protests against Trump back on April 5th? Remember that huge day of protests? No. Hands-off protests? There were over a thousand protests scheduled that day all over the country against Trump. Well, this weekend, this Saturday, June 14th, there are already more than 1,800 protests scheduled against Trump all around the country. It's going to be like twice the size of that massive day of protest that we saw on April 5th. Okay, so what? Trump is going to do his military parade for himself in Washington that day. That's the talking point. Interestingly, and I think importantly, there is not a no King's Day protest in Washington, DC this Saturday because of Trump's military parade. They're going to do like a flagship national protest in Philadelphia. But there are more than eight

49:46 1,800 other protests against Trump planned all over the country. It looks like there are going to be more and larger protests against Trump this weekend, this Saturday, than we have yet seen on any other day. And he knows it. He cannot handle the amount of protests against him now, and it is about to increase exponentially. She really believes that this is like protest is good protest go ahead protest you think anyone cares? Does she think that the ICE protests in LA are about him? They're about ICE. No, this but this is what I'm saying. This is the disconnect. She's lost her mind this poor woman. If you look at the no Kings Day posters ICE is like eighth on the list. You know it's more about

50:32 tariffs and inflation and all the old talking points. They didn't have time to print up new posters. Final clip. The No King's Day of Defiance? No King's Day of Defiance. It's expanded in scope. Wait, wait. Now it's grammatically incorrect. Yes. No King's Day of Defiance? That's a non sequitur at least. Yes. The No King's Day of Defiance? They said this today, quote, I always want to remind you that she makes millions of dollars doing this. She makes 25 million. Yes. I always want to remind you because that kind of gets you riled up when you hear that. Twenty five million dollars. The no King's Day of defiance.

51:16 They said this today, quote, the no King's... Well, for 25 million bucks, you'd say anything. Trump sucks! She obviously has... she has orders. Give me 25 million dollars. Trump sucks! He's Hitler! He's no good. John, what do you think about Trump for 25 million dollars? What do you think? They said this today, quote, the no King's mobilizations on June 14th were already planned as a peaceful stand against authoritarian overreach and the gross abuse of power this administration has shown. Now this military escalation, meaning what's happening in Los Angeles, only confirms what we have known. This government wants to rule by force.

51:52 not serve the people. From major cities to small towns, we will rise together and say we reject political violence. We reject fear as governance. We reject the myth that only some deserve freedom. On Saturday, June 14th, more than 1,800 rallies will take place across the country, peaceful, organized, and united. The No Kings movement has posted a map online showing where those 1800 plus rallies will be held. I should tell you, and I think this is important. Here we go. Of those 1800, more than 100 of those have been added to the map since Trump announced that he was sending the National Guard into LA. Oh my. If he was hoping to get people to not protest, it's backfiring. Backfiring! Organizers are going to hold a series of online trainings this week. Oh, hey, Noah Jinder Producers?

52:41 We need you to jump on these Zoom calls for some training. Organizers are going to hold a series of online trainings this week ahead of the big day. Tomorrow it's a know your rights training that they're doing nationwide by Zoom so people can better understand how to interact with law enforcement. How about this? Don't spit on them, don't throw things at them, don't get in their face, and you should be okay. That's my advice. Provocateurs during the demonstrations. Oh, how you deal with provocateurs. Oh, I see. And how to interact with law enforcement. or provocateurs during the demonstrations. Then two days later on Thursday, another big nationwide Zoom call. They're calling it a pre-mobilization mass call. That's for anybody who's planning to participate. Potentially tens of thousands of people are going to be on that call. It's basically just to talk strategy ahead of the big day Saturday. Yeah, well, someone should be on it already.

53:34 You know, they have this, one of the places they have these protests is in Port Angeles, Washington. Of course. And is Mimi going? Is Mimi going to bring her Mexican flag? Well, she like, she goes by, she never takes enough photos for my taste, but she goes by, it's the same, she says it's the same six people. And they're always out in front of the same, in front of the library or the city hall, I can't remember where specifically. They're always holding signs, handmade signs. And they're all old. It's not like any kids or any millennials or anything. It's just a bunch of old farts, which I've seen, they also have the, this will show up over here in El Cerrito near me, in El Cerrito Plaza, and I've joined in once in a while.

54:19 to go over there so I can chat with people. And get a couple of cool signs. Hey man, can I have your sign? For my collection, I need any more good signs but just some good ones. Can I hold your sign please? Well, I've done different things to get signs. I've actually bought signs. And most people give up their signs for some cash. And there's also sign makers. There's usually a sign maker that's around there and he's making custom signs and he's like, you know, has reasonably good handwriting. He prints the signs up and they staples them to a stick. And then they give them to somebody. Was this in the 2000s that you did this?

55:01 I've done this a couple of times. If I have time, and I... Because it's over by the post office where I go to pick up the mail, and if there's a little protest going on, it's usually about... You mingle. You mingle. 20 or 30 people, yeah. I'll pull a car over, I'll park, and then I'll come and mingle. Hey, girls. What's the protest? There'll be somebody with a bullhorn and a sheet of paper of stuff that they're supposed to yell into the bullhorn. Can I hold your paper for a sec? Yeah, I do that. But it's good research. No, of course it is. But it's the same thing. They're all in their 50s and 60s. So you belong. You just blend in. Yeah, I fit right in. I'm the old guy. Blend in.

55:42 Look at that gray hair. Yeah, I got, you know, the hair is kind of disheveled and I'm wearing flannel shorts a lot because it's damn cold around here. Do you have your sandals on or what are you wearing for shoes? I don't wear, no, I wear Crocs. Crocs, thank you. I was going to say it. I don't wear Crocs. I'm just making it clear, I don't wear Crocs. I wear Skechers. Yeah, they're Crocs on steroids. They're like Crocs. They're just sketchers from the same factory. Anyway, but so these protests are a joke. This I thought was the, this is such a good clip of Nancy Pelosi. I mean, what do we know about the National Guard on January 6?

56:30 We know that Trump sent a memo to Pelosi, who's in charge of the National Guard, because she's responsible and she's in charge of the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Congress. And so she tells him what to do. He sent a memo to Nancy saying, I think it's, you know, there could be some protests that we should probably protect the Capitol. We need, we should probably put 10,000 National Guard troops. This was discussed by Nancy. Oops, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Come back. This was discussed by Nancy. This was discussed by Nancy's daughter in the movie that she made where Nancy said yeah, I could have probably stopped it. Yep, but and Nancy was given a memo. She says screw this we're not gonna do that. Mm-hmm. And then they destroy that memo was that

57:15 Nancy's was Nancy's property at the time. She was destroyed during the hearings and nobody wants to talk about it even though she already, you know, it's already on tape that she said what she told her daughter. Yes. So Trump was trying to get the National Guard to out to just Protect the Capitol and that he was rebuked and blamed. Well, it's interesting because Nancy Pelosi remembers it differently. Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is noting the disconnect between how the president is behaving now and how he behaved in January on January 6th. On January 6th with violence against the Constitution against the Congress and against the United States Capitol we beg the president of the United States to

58:00 to send in the National Guard. He would not do it. Contra constitutional way he has sent the National Guard into California. Something is very wrong with this picture. Yeah. Yes, something is very wrong with this picture, Nancy. Isn't that amazing? It doesn't surprise me in the least. Well, no. It just doesn't surprise us. Yeah, it doesn't surprise us at all. I'm ready to move on if you are. I would like to... Let's just see if there's any scrounge clips left. Scrounge? Man, this is an hour of this nonsense. Oh, you're right. We're talking more about it than the actual protests will last. I will say I watched the Apple WWDC keynote, which is not a keynote, it's a video. And can I summarize it for you as I usually do?

59:01 Yes, you can summarize for me as you usually do. It's gorgeous. Liquid Glass is gorgeous. It's just gorgeous. All your apps are gorgeous. The video... it's gorgeous. It's just gorgeous. There you go. Did he say gorgeous? Oh, they all say gorgeous. Particularly Tim. It's gorgeous. It's just so... Liquid Glass is gorgeous. There you go. That's that is your name. Did you tell me to watch Ted Lasso? When it first came out maybe four years ago I mentioned that it was an interesting show kind of at least the first season. Yeah.

59:43 No, because it's on Apple TV and someone else recommended it and we started watching it. We love it. I almost didn't want to make fun of Apple today, but I can't help myself. Because Ted Lasso is gorgeous. Everything with Apple is gorgeous. I thought the show jumped a shark right at the end of the first season. I've never watched it since. Oh no, we're into second season. It's still good. I mean, it's unrealistic. It doesn't show at all the the grooming racist country of the United Kingdom. It doesn't portray that to any accuracy. And the only brown people are the ones playing football. Foot-a-ball. Foot-a-ball. Yeah. Anyway, so that was gorgeous. I think it's interesting to watch the shows about sports. Tina's watching a show about sports.

1:00:31 That's, you talk about crazy. This is great. Have you started watching The Recruit? No, no, no. I can't take any more violence. I can't take the violence. It's not that violent. I don't like the violence. It's too much violence. I'm tired of violence. The Recruit, just for anyone out there, it's on Netflix and it's about a schmuck that joins the CIA. And he gets beat up a lot because he's an idiot. But the thing that's remarkable about this show is the portrayal of the bureaucracy and the backbiting, backstabbing, creepy.

1:01:07 And anyone who's worked in a big bureaucracy, and Mimi says, yeah, the corporate same way, because she worked at a couple of big banks when she was younger. And I worked at an administrative state operation. You were a Democrat. I can't even believe that you converted. It's amazing. You got saved. No, common sense. And so, but just to watch, the scenes in the office are the ones that make that show work. The other story that dominated the M5M for obvious reasons, again full of lies, was the ACIP. This is the board of advisors that advises on vaccines for the CDC, which Robert Kennedy Jr. decided to disband and bring in new guys.

1:02:04 And this caused such a tizzy because we know that most of the advertising, certainly on the news programs, but everywhere, everywhere you look, turn on some TV if you got it still. Maybe you can get one of those over-the-air antennas or get YouTube TV for a day and then cancel it. It's all over the air antennas are cheap. Yep. It's cheap. It's safe and effective actually. Yeah. Here's an intro from NBC that'll give you the rundown. Then I have a couple specific clips from Dr. Celine Gounder we need to discuss back here at home. The future of vaccine recommendations remains in question following the move by health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. To

1:02:48 retire all the members of a CDC panel of independent experts advising on vaccines. By the way, whenever you say Robert Kennedy Jr., you have to say Robert Kennedy Jr., a known vaccine skeptic. Here's Anne Thompson. Fierce blowback tonight to HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s decision to remove all members of the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee from public health experts. If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't cover it anymore. People will not get it. We know that's factually not true. We know that the recommendations that change, that insurance will cover it.

1:03:30 We went through this. Yes, what you're pointing out is what we've pointed out before that this is a lie. It's a lie, yes. Correct, it's a lie. Insurance won't cover it anymore. People will not get it. You will have a- People will not get it. You won't have access. Somehow people will not get it. Yeah, people won't get it. So why do you put a lie- What network is this and why would you put a blatant liar on? Oh, wait a minute, it's because the networks are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. Yes, it's NBC and what he's not- What he's saying is he didn't even say- He actually threw out the talking point without even knowing it. It's not even a talking point, it's what's behind the talking point. What he's saying is not like people won't be able to afford it. He didn't even say people won't have access, he says people won't get it. Which is the fear of the pharma companies. Oh, they're not going to get the shot anymore. That's direct to our bottom line. That's what he's saying.

1:04:25 from public health experts. If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't cover it anymore. People will not get it. It will have a real impact on people's access to vaccines. And our stock price. Vaccines. And the American Academy of Pediatrics. I think we're likely to see diseases that many people have never seen before or even heard of. Diseases you've never even heard of! How does that work? Just don't want to scare you, but there will be diseases you've never even heard of. Somehow vaccines magically exist for it, but you're gonna get that. Concern from parents. Don Gibson, father of two in California. By the way, this is the most... I'm sorry you're playing this because now you're getting me mad. Oh, bingo. This is a pathetic indictment of the mainstream media that they would do this. Well, isn't that what we do?

1:05:16 Yeah, but this is a pathetic indictment, not just an indictment. It's pathetic. I'm sorry, I'll try to be more classy next time. Concern from parents. Don Gibson, father of two in California. I'm really worried that my children won't have access to vaccines that I did. Access! Access! Access! I don't have access to it! What's access? Like I did! It's like internet access? What kind of access? Mom Harmony Montez in the heart of the recent West Texas measles outbreak. I very much trust vaccines. Kennedy, a long time- Best, best drop-in ever. Mom in West Texas, gotta be a nut job Republican. I very much trust vaccines, done. California. I'm really worried that my children won't have access to vaccines that I did. Mom, Harani Montes in the heart of the recent West Texas measles outbreak. I very much trust vaccines.

1:06:06 Kennedy, a long time vaccine skeptic, in today's Wall Street Journal writing... Did you hear it? Well-known vaccine skeptic. I thought she said long time. Oh. Very much trust vaccines. Kennedy, a long time vaccine skeptic, in today's Wall Street Journal writing, a clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science. claiming the committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest. The committee is made up of independent medical and public health experts who make recommendations to the CDC about vaccine usage. Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said in February Kennedy and the Trump White House promised him this. It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's

1:06:53 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, recommendations without changes. Hold on a second. Recommendations without changes? Not that he would keep the entire panel in place, but the recommendations. So they kind of fuffle around on that and make it sound like Kennedy promised not to change the advisory panel. But he promised he wouldn't change the recommendations from the panel. Didn't say that, hey, it could be a new panel. Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said Inspector Kennedy in the Trump White House promised him this. It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices' recommendations without changes. You see what, you see? He's doing exactly what he said he would do.

1:07:44 But I might change the panel. Today, Cassidy was cautious. I'll have to see. He'll fire me the names, but I can't answer that because I haven't seen the names yet. Do you see this increasing trust in vaccines? I don't see how I possibly could. Trust and the nation's health experts say potentially at risk. At risk. Trust is at risk. I think that went out the window a long time ago. Now we go to CBS. Dr. Celine Gounder, who I believe still lost her husband due to a sudden stroke on a on a soccer field somewhere. Mysteriously, mysteriously. Now listen to this. Can you explain to our audience what the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee does and why these dismissals are raising alarms? So our vaccines have to go through multiple hoops before you receive these. They gotta go hoops, not tests. We don't do tests. We just go through hoops and loopholes and back doors. We played a clip recently about the discussion of

1:08:45 of the getting rid of, they got rid of two vaccine people off one of these advisory committees and just passed the COVID thing because they were skeptical about COVID boosters. And about they went. Well, hoops. So our vaccines have to go through multiple hoops before you get you receive these. So first year, the FDA that approves them, they vet for safety and effectiveness than the ACIP, which is this external committee advising the CDC will help determine how these vaccines should be used. So what age group, what high risk groups? And this is something that's been happening for decades now. It's not partisan. It's not political. And frankly, it's

1:09:25 pretty boring scientific process. Oh, okay. Well, let's listen to what the issue is then, Dr. Celine Gounder. Kennedy wrote in an op-ed that this is really about restoring the public trust and rooting out conflicts of interest. He specifically said that most of the ACIP members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies. Does he have a point about conflicts of interest here? Well, conflicts of interest! What do you think the doctor will say about this? He's gonna say no. It's even better than that. What he is citing is an office of the inspector general report that found 97% of the conflict of interest forms had errors. But these were errors of putting the wrong date. I mean, imagine on your IRS returns, you might have the wrong date on something that's very different from having a true conflict of interest. And these

1:10:13 the to gain or lose from the outcome of the vaccine decision. And he has sued multiple vaccine manufacturers. He has stood to gain or lose from the outcome of these decisions that is by definition conflicted. Okay. So I don't want to get into the definition of conflicted because I could look into Dr. Celine Gounders conflicts of interest as a TV doctor, but I do have this thing called the internet. And I did pull up this report from 2009, which she discredits and says,

1:10:54 Hey man, it's just like you got the date wrong on your tax return, which by the way, you can get in a lot of hassle for putting the wrong date or oops, I missed a digit. And so I have the findings. I'm looking at the paper that she just said, oh no, it was 97%, but I missed a little thing. findings. For almost all special government employees, this is the AIPC, CDC did not ensure that financial disclosure forms were complete. CDC certified OGE forms 450 with at least one omission for 97% of the SGEs. Most of the forms had more than one type of omission.

1:11:40 Omission is not the same thing as oops, I got the date wrong. Two, CDC did not identify or resolve potential conflicts of interest for 64% of these employees. 64% had potential conflicts of interest that CDC did not identify and or resolve before it certified their OGE forms 450. Specifically, 58% of the SGEs had potential conflicts of interest that CDC did not identify. In addition, 32% of them had potential conflicts of interest that CDC identified but did not resolve. 26% of them had both CDC unidentified and unresolved potential conflicts of interest. It's just the date they made they did wrong. That's all that it is. Three.

1:12:31 CDC did not ensure that 41% of these employees received ethics training in 2007. CDC did not ensure that 41% had ethics training certificates on file to document they received initial or annual ethics training within the required time frames. And the final point, 15% of them did not comply with the ethics requirement during committee meetings. Specifically, 13% of them participated in committee meetings without having current certified OGE forms on file. In addition, 3% voted on particular matters when their waivers prohibited such participation. Four both participated in committee meetings without current certified forms on file and voted on particular matters when their waivers prohibited such participation.

1:13:21 Bull crap, Dr. Celine Gounder. We have the internet and we stand strong. Okay, so just more lies That's but that is that to me is a big lie. I mean she's obviously conflicted I just want to hear one more time what you said. But these were errors of like putting the wrong date. I mean, imagine on your IRS returns, you might have the wrong date on something. That's very different from having a true conflict of interest. Or omitting things on my tax return. If I omit things on my tax return, I am actually committing, I don't know if it's a felony, if it's a civil offense, but I'm going to get in trouble if they find out.

1:14:25 So, no. These guys all got in trouble and they all got released. They got released. So they put a new group in, so what? What's wrong with the new group? Does she have something to complain about? Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, RFK Jr. names eight vaccine panel replacements, including COVID shot skeptics. You don't want a skeptic on your panel. Let's see who we have. Yeah, heaven forbid you have somebody that's that is open. Never. I don't know. We've got Dr. Robert Malone. Wait, who's the first guy here? They put Malone on there. That's not true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. So he is nothing but time. Vicky Pebsworth, a nurse with a public health doctorate, who's a board member of the National Vaccine Information Center, which is a pro vaccine group, I will say.

1:15:17 We talked about them during COVID. They come across as anti, but I think they're pro. Yeah, could be. Dr. Robert Malone, who of course worked on research into several mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. Has patents. Retsef Levi, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Management professor, and he called for the COVID-19 vaccines to be withdrawn from the market in a 2023 video. Dr. Martin Kulldorff, former professor of medicine at Harvard University, who became known during the pandemic as a critic of COVID-19 mitigation measures such as lockdowns. We can't have that guy on the panel. Cody Meissner, pediatrician infectious disease specialist respected by other vaccine experts.

1:16:08 So, you know, it's like Kennedy's doing exactly what he said. He needs to restore trust with the other half of the country, actually the other 70% of the country, really 40% who went no. And then there's the 30% that went no, but OK, I'll go along to get along. So he's doing exactly what he promised. This is very good. This is what you want. He's not getting rid of vaccines. If you want them, go get them. If you want them. Of course, it's, your kids won't go to school. Same thing here in Fredericksburg. You want your kids to go to St. Mary's? Gotta have your vaccines. Well, what if I don't want to give my kids vaccines? Sorry, you can't go to St. Mary's. But you know the vaccines might have pieces of embryo in there? Yeah, that may be, but Jesus says you can't come to school. So this is... So Rogan had this woman on, this doctor. Which one? Who was... Sorry? Which one?

1:17:12 I'm looking for the clip. Oh, the older lady? No, she's not older. She's kind of middle-aged. Yeah, my age. Mary Bowden. Yeah. Dr. Mary Bowden. Yeah. I wouldn't call her older. She's like my age. I think maybe whatever they're not as he liked her. Yeah, and I the clip I should have gotten I would have gotten a could have gotten a but I didn't get is where she talks about how The vaccine was you know foisted upon the public in a certain kind of way I'll get that clip maybe play it on Sunday, but but this clip I thought was interesting. This is a

1:17:51 part of the whole time during the COVID. I think Kennedy would...this COVID-19 vaccine should be taken off the market. It should have been taken off the market early on and they just can't get rid of it. And so Kennedy, I think one of the things he's trying to do is find enough guys to get this thing taken off the market, but it's going to be hard to do. And then when you hear stories like this, this disgusting story which was in this, and I would recommend, I don't listen to all of Rogan's stuff. You don't even watch it when I'm on.

1:18:28 It's true. Admit it. It's true. I don't... I know you. I don't need to watch you. Oh, there's Adam. Let me see what he has to say. I know what you have to say. It doesn't make any sense. It's like watching paint dry. I know. I'm sorry to bore you. It's like watching paint dry. It's exactly right. So, but I would recommend this people listen to this thing whole cloth beginning to end. It's really good. But just listen to this There's actually a lawsuit today. That's first jury trial in the country over these hospital protocols where they had a young woman with Down syndrome They basically euthanized her They gave her a DNR order even though she didn't have one and the father has just been wonderful as a Shara family

1:19:17 Why did they do that? They euthanized her for what? I've seen this. I have reviewed records from these hospital patients and they'll euthanize them. They need the bed. They say, well, they're going to die anyway. What was this person in the hospital for? COVID. COVID protocol. So, and they wait, wait, wait. So they were in the hospital with COVID and they gave them something to kill them? Yeah. That happened. I'm sorry, but I mean that happened people they give him morphine and insulin Yeah, yeah, that's common Yeah, yeah, I've reviewed charts in this situation They gave her a DNR which is do not resuscitate meaning if they look like they're dying you don't do anything which that was not the case and

1:20:08 So they're suing for battery, which is one way of getting around the PREP Act. Because the PREP Act is very hard to penetrate. The PREP Act protects everybody, all the doctors, all the hospitals from any wrongdoing during COVID. So it's been this big challenge trying to get around the PREP Act. And this case has hope of getting around the PREP Act because they're charging for battery and they're in trial. It started today, it's in Wisconsin. So that gives me hope. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, wow indeed. And of course then you hear, just around the same time Rogan's interviewing her and he's aghast like everybody else and she's a very famous doctor in Houston. I've seen some of her stuff. We hear this from Cuomo.

1:21:02 on one of the podcasts with some other guy and he says this crazy thing. My big prediction is that Rogan's success is admirable. I do not believe he'll be where he was three months ago a year from today. There are too many talented people entering that space now who want his real estate and they're going to be better at what he does than he is. So I think that he's going to see attrition. That's not the first time someone said that about Joe. He does surpass expectations like people wrote his obituary many many times and it's just never come true. Oh listen, I don't necessarily want it to come true because I don't I don't find him offensive or anything. Are you saying stop to me? I'm sorry.

1:20:08 So they're suing for battery, which is one way of getting around the PREP Act. Because the PREP Act is very hard to penetrate. The PREP Act protects everybody, all the doctors, all the hospitals from any wrongdoing during COVID. So it's been this big challenge trying to get around the PREP Act. And this case has hope of getting around the PREP Act because they're charging for battery and they're in trial. It started today, it's in Wisconsin. So that gives me hope. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, wow indeed. And of course then you hear, just around the same time Rogan's interviewing her and he's aghast like everybody else and she's a very famous doctor in Houston. I've seen some of her stuff. We hear this from Cuomo.

1:21:02 on one of the podcasts with some other guy and he says this crazy thing. My big prediction is that Rogan's success is admirable. I do not believe he'll be where he was three months ago a year from today. There are too many talented people entering that space now who want his real estate and they're going to be better at what he does than he is. So I think that he's going to see attrition. That's not the first time someone said that about Joe. He does surpass expectations like people wrote his obituary many many times and it's just never come true. Oh listen, I don't necessarily want it to come true because I don't I don't find him offensive or anything. Are you saying stop to me? I'm sorry.

1:21:45 Did you say stop? No, I didn't say anything. Oh, listen, I don't necessarily want it to come true because I don't find him offensive or anything. I see him as innocuous. But he's getting criticism. He never got criticism before. The media is taking him seriously now and that's not going to go well for him. The media is going to take him down, man, because, you know, it's just a podcast. What a dope. I was flabbergasted by this attack. It's dopey. It's dopey. You know, if anything, I think Fredo believes that he's the one that's going to dethrone him from the crew. He's gonna get rid of Rogan. I'm better than Joe. Yeah. It's like, no. What an idiot. So I received at least 20

1:22:41 BOTG reports. You know what that stands for, right? BOTG? Gee, let me think, bitches on the gag. No, it's boobs on the ground. Boobs on the ground, okay. Normally boots on the ground, now it's boobs on the ground about our discussion of breastfeeding versus formula. Yes, I got a bunch of them too. Lots of lactating mothers wrote us and Mimi even said to me, how come you guys didn't bring up the fact that breast milk is like a superfood?

1:23:16 that we should have mentioned and then give kids babies don't get sick when they're breastfeeding. It's almost impossible. They don't get colds. They don't get anything and they don't definitely don't need a vaccine through the mom. And it was just like, yes, this was the theme. I noticed a lot of this and I responded to a couple. I should have responded to more of them. It got so bad I had to come up with a form response that said, thank you very much for your contribution. I got tired of typing it. But I read all of them and I first want to say the most important thing that we have that we just don't know. Breastfeeding is hard work.

1:23:54 It is not, you know, we just think like, I just put the baby up there. It sucks. You're good to go. No, and you had, there's moments like women like to complain, women like to complain. I'm sorry. I said that because I'm going to get some notes. Yeah, you should. But they'll complain that a certain, like a baby hits, you know, some, they can be like in, if they're in breastfeeding mode. and they're out and about and some baby down this hallway and they start screaming. They start leaking. It drops their milk and there's nothing they can do about it and they start making a, oh God, what a horrible, and they complain bitterly about this. And I'd say, yeah, it's like if you were all of a sudden something happened, you just automatically peed in your pants. I had a guy I worked with at the Union Oil. Stop, don't get off the topic. Keep that story in your pants for one minute.

1:24:43 I brought the topic up. You've already just went off for like 10 minutes about your experience. It was 30 seconds. That's what she said. Now listen, breastfeeding is hard work. There's a lot that goes into it that we don't, I mean, even though I've seen it, I've witnessed it, you don't think about these things. And so my summary, and I put a couple of them in the show notes, and the one I was really interested in, because this is what I asked, is like, what happened before formula? What did we do in the 1800s? So I'll just read that and then I'll surmise all the other emails. Pre-Victorian era, if a baby could not breastfeed by their mother,

1:25:25 As in their mother died in childbirth. Other arrangements like wet nurses would be made if a wet nurse was not available. Substitute like cow's milk were used. However, infant mortality was extremely likely as breast milk provides key nutrients and antibodies that help build a baby's immune system. And apparently goat milk was also popular. In the Victorian era, people let the germ theory of disease get into their heads so they thought that if a scientist in a sterile lab could replicate something from the germ-filled real world, the lab version was obviously better. That's when and why baby formula was invented.

1:26:01 Despite male doctors telling women to use formula most still breastfed because why pay for something we can get for free in the 20th century Formula only became popular during World War two was working mothers became a thing Generations of women have now been told to prioritize careers over children and have been brainwashed into thinking of baby formula like feeding your kids dino nuggets instead of grilled chicken. It's not the best, but it's a convenience you can still feel good about. With more and more research showing the nutritional difference between formula and breast milk, this narrative is finally crumbling and all formula companies can do now is make new formulas and go on trying to pretend it's just as good as breast milk.

1:26:43 My takeaway from the women who emailed me, which is a lot, a lot of them breastfeeding as we speak. In fact, they're hearing me right now. They got one on each boob. Some of them emailed me this, that the psyop from the baby formula companies was so strong. The marketing was so strong that it really turned belief into, hey, we make something better than what you can produce. And I completely believe that. along with some stigma, certainly in America, the stigma of she's whipping out her boob and giving the baby breast milk right here in public. Oh no, that's no good. And so I too am happy that this narrative is changing and thank you, Bobby the op Kennedy, thank you.

1:27:34 for bringing this to the forefront and getting people to think for a second doesn't make it any easier. There's not facilities everywhere, pumping is a pain in the butt, there's all kinds, you know, women have to work these days, you got to have two incomes just to survive. It's not easy. Men, step it up. Do everything you can to help your wife, your woman, whatever it is, because it's better for your baby. I can say that without being a doctor. It just makes sense. But thank you, women, for A, showing us that you still listen and that you really listen. Really appreciate that. Surprisingly, yes. Yes, I was like, wow, we got chicks listening, man. This is good news. They're still here.

1:28:16 And thank you for being so open about all of the issues and what you think. And thank you for opening my eyes. Because, I mean, Tina and I, by the way, Tina's like, you guys suck. You guys don't know nothing. That's why she was blowing up my phone. All the girls, all the lunch ladies, like, what are Adam and John talking about? What do they know about this? I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with it too. We don't know anything about it. We don't do it. So thank you for the... But we do know more than we expressed in the last... Yeah, of course. Of course. And we did not bring up the fact that it's a healthier alternative to getting vaccinated as a pregnant person. But it's good and I'm happy that the women of No Agenda, Gitmo Nation, that they are turning to this form of feeding their infant. They realize it's better.

1:29:11 are taking pay cuts, husbands are working harder so they can be at home, breastfeed, homeschool. Oh no, trad wife! Yeah. So this is in general, I think, I think a very, very good development and I'm proud of y'all and y'all deserve a medal for what you have to go through because it is not just a matter of, oh, baby hungry, let's go. That's kind of what we as guys think. You don't think about it like this. It's not that easy. Anyway, thank you all. I really appreciate it. I got an education and one of these days, hopefully one of our daughters will have a kid. I'm starting to wonder about that. They're all getting old. Hurry up! All my friends are, oh, I became a granddad. Woo, yeah.

1:29:56 I'm ready for it. I'm ready to show a kid how to drive a truck, drink beer and shoot. She'll love it. So while on the topic of women and breastfeeding, let's talk about the Tonys. Oh man. Was that Sunday? I completely missed it. Yes, it was Sunday. And I was always of the opinion that the Tonys couldn't get more gay. Well, it's kind of a gay sport. Every year I'm wrong. Hold on a second, did Clooney win for anything after he did that big live show? No, no, they were shut out. Oh man, because he could, you know what he did? He broke ranks. He's like, theater is for the Broadway, it is not for CNN television. Who do you think you are Clooney? Go back to your film.

1:30:44 Well, he did them a favor. He did Tony awards a favor by being on 60 minutes as the lead in to the Tonys talking about the Tonys. No corruption there or there on CBS. It was on the same network. I just think it's corrupt. I don't care. So there was a lot of non-binaries. This guy Jack Malone, one for best actor, but he's a non-binary dude in a dress, and he came out there with his dress on. It's just kind of a flaming... Now what was the play he starred in? Mary.

1:31:19 And does Mary call for a man dressed as a woman or for a woman? It calls for... he's playing Mary Lincoln and it's calls for a woman. And he's a man dressed as a woman playing a woman. But he's a guy and I give Tony's credit for not nominating for Best Female Actress. Well, next year. There's always next year. We'll get there. But they're gone in this non-binary thing. In fact, the best guy, this one guy comes out, he wins the award for, I forgot what, oh, a singer, I think. And he comes out, he's not dressed as a woman, but he's got all this makeup on, he's got eye shadow and lipstick, and he comes out. And he ends, this guy Michael Arden, he has this little ditty at the end, he goes through this long tirade about,

1:32:13 non-binaryism and he makes the following comment here. Keep telling stories that probe for deeper truths, that inspire hope because the darker it gets, the more we need your light. As Daddy Sondheim said, give us more to see. And if there are any queer people watching tonight, happy pride. Yay! The crowd goes wild! You're so brave. I'm so brave. You should have said happy world pride. I'm disappointed. Play this clip here. Tony, now this guy, happy pride. He said he queried people listening, got a big laugh. Ha ha ha. I figured everybody, everybody. Try Tony's. Oh, I should mention this. This is kind of a little bit off topic, but every ad during the Tony's was

1:33:12 aimed at the audience and it was AIDS drugs and drugs and other kinds of drugs and those Ozempic and Ozempic and Ozempic and drugs and drugs and drugs. So a pretty typical CBS lineup of ads is what you're saying. Yeah, it was a little more than usual I thought. But Had to play this I did collect the side effects for Rick Zolti Do we know what Rick Zolti does I forgot already.

1:34:04 Yeah, alright. She recommended adding Rexalti. When taken with an antidepressant, Rexalti was proven to significantly reduce depression symptoms more than an antidepressant alone. Oh! With my antidepressant, Rexalti could provide a boost. Elderly people with dementia related psychosis have increased risk of death or stroke. Antidepressants may increase suicidal thoughts and actions and worsen depression in children and young adults. Call your health care provider right away to report new or sudden changes in mood, behavior, thoughts or feelings or if you develop suicidal thoughts or actions. Report fever, stiff muscles and confusion which can be life-threatening or uncontrolled muscle movements which may be permanent. High blood sugar can lead to coma or death.

1:34:40 Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur. Could adding Rexalti be right for you? Sounds right for me. May result in death. Rexalti and death. Oh, beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Yes, I love it could make you more depressed, but it's supposed to make me less depressed It could make you more depressed could make could give you suicidal thoughts, but it's supposed to make me less depressed Yeah, but you might want to kill yourself actually I take it back It was Cole Escola who was the good dude in the dress Jack Malone who won for one of the actors he had I have a couple of clips from him It should only be one. I think I double-clipped play the long one. This is a

1:35:27 I thought this was the the clip of the day. Thank you so much to my family watching in England and thank you to my little family, my beautiful partner Jasmine and my little dog Dracula who came out here to have this adventure with me. You are my whole heart and I'd be lost without you and I'm grateful every day. The last thing I wanted to say is this, eight times a week I walk out on that stage and tell the audience that I'm a woman. I'm not one and I only convey it through simple adjustments to posture, voice and energy but night after night audiences believe in Hester. They weep for her they invest in her, they love her for her old romantic heart. And if you watched our show and found yourself believing in Hester, well then I am so glad to tell you that intentionally or otherwise, you might have just bid farewell to cynicism, to outdated ideas, to that rotten old binary, and opened yourself up to a world that is already out there in glorious technicolor and isn't going away any time soon! Thank you so much!

1:36:23 The rotten old binary. Is that what he said? Rotten old binary? That's what he says. He says you can kiss goodbye the rotten old binary because he plays, you know, he's a guy playing, well he's the guy that had all the makeup on. I'm sorry. Well you are confusing me with this report. Who is who now? Was this the dude in the dress or not? No, the dude in the dress is this Cola Scola guy who is the... Let's play him then. But this is just his intro because he just he doesn't really have anything funny to say. Just kind of a hysterical gay guy, basically. So but this intro to him was was interesting because they required that they say they.

1:37:03 She already messed it up. They they she The announcer got messed up and the American theater wings today. She's so worried about saying they right she was cued She was told, you better say they, because he's a they them. And so she blows it. Oh no, the American They-eter. It's now They-eter. Have you been to the They-eter yet? And the American Theater Wing's Tony Award goes to... Cola Scola. Oh man.

1:37:46 Killmore Stola earns the Tony Award for their reimagining of Mary Todd Lincoln as a wannabe cabaret star. There, okay. Yeah, there. I thought that was... Now, did you as a lover of the theater, were you angered by this? No, it wasn't. I thought that they were overdoing the non-binary stuff. They made a big point that everyone's now in the theater, you're not gay anymore. It's world pride, man. Well, there was a couple of pride mentions there. I mean, I'm sure that one. But the end of the horrible binary thing and this guy going on is not going away anytime soon. It's just like a...

1:38:34 What was annoying to me was they play all these sections of different plays and musicals. There was nothing. This last season was bad. Yeah. And you like theater. You like theater. I like the theater. The theater. The theater. It's theater now. From now on, we call it the theater. It's a primary form of entertainment that is, I think, culturally important, but not if it's just going to be a brainwashing fest. Yeah. So it sucks. I mean, I have, you know, if I always preferred the London, the East End stuff to the Broadway anyway, just better. Yeah. So I would like to point out the art of the deal at perfect work, completely done as expected, beautiful, good for our country. And that is the NATO increase in payments.

1:39:36 And so I will recant very quickly what the idea... Recant? That means you're gonna... I'm gonna rap. Recant, yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm going to... Okay, okay. Elucidate what you're looking for. Okay, language police, correct me. Yeah, well, you know, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm going to... Believe me, I'm on you now. I'm going to elucidate Gold star! I'm going to elucidate what the idea was. The NATO member states, which is code for countries, were originally supposed to pay 2% of their GDP, so all their money, 2%.

1:40:23 2% of all their money. Make it sound like it's all they make. They're supposed to give us basically 2% of all their money for our war stuff. I'm just going to break it down to what it is. Yeah. Now, we've kind of forgotten it, but President Trump kept saying, hey, this has got to be 3.5%. This has got to be 3.5%. Everybody's like, no, I'm going to do that. So then he came out and went, uh-uh. I'm sorry, I've changed that to 5%. We need 5%!" And then he deployed his heat-seeking missile, White Line's Rütte, and Rütte did a great job because he closed the deal at 5%, but it's really 3.5% money that goes to us, which is what we wanted in the first place. And when I say we, it's what President Trump wanted to come into our coffers for us to give them boom-booms, pew-pews.

1:41:22 And then Rütte worked a deal, he did a good job for the nut job that he is, did a good job. And he said, well, the 1.5%, it will be 5%, but 1.5% will have to be on other things for like hybrid warfare and infrastructure, which of course everybody knows no country's going to spend that money at all. So, President Trump got exactly what he wanted, 3.5% from all the member states. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Thursday that most allies endorse President Donald Trump's demand to spend 5% of GDP on defense.

1:41:58 After a defense ministers meeting in Brussels, Route has cited broad support and expects a deal at NATO summit in The Hague later this month. The new target includes 3.5% on core military spending plus 1.5% on infrastructure for rapid deployment. This is a significant increase on the current 2% goal which about a third of members have yet to reach despite spending hikes since 2022. Of course you need to core defense spending. But let's be honest with each other. If a tank is not able to cross a bridge, if our societies are not prepared in case war breaks out for a whole of society approach, if you're not able to really develop the defence industrial base, then the 3.5% is great.

1:42:47 but then you cannot really defend yourselves. Trump has pushed allies to spend more so the US can focus elsewhere questioning defense guarantees for those who spend too little. US Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth claimed in Brussels that Trump revived the alliance and that European allies were grateful. He also hinted at the review of the 84,000 US troops currently based in Europe. At their meeting ministers also approved new purchasing targets for weapons and equipment. part of major 2023 plan to defend alliance territory. That's how you do the deal. He wanted three and a half percent. He said, you got to pay me five. And then Ruth came in and went, oh, well, you know what? Hey, guys, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to say it's going to be five, but we'll do one and a half and we'll talk some Bridges crap. You'll never have to spend that. Or just the stuff you're already spending on fixing potholes. You just put that into the 1.5 and all I have to pay is three and a half percent. Everyone's happy. It's beautiful. I think it goes unnoticed how well executed that plan was.

1:43:49 It's gone totally unnoticed. Yeah. No, you're the only one. Well, it's because of my boy Rutte. I love him. Yeah, you love Rutte. You like doing his voice. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. With three and a half percent, you're not going to be able to defend against Russia. You need to have bridges that will hold the tanks. You know? Yes, if you want to mobilize and keep yourself safe, you need that one and a half percent. So President Trump and I will make a big splash in The Hague at NATO. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for coming. And by the way, who wants to go to the sauna later with me? I'm excited. If you're excited, you definitely don't want to go.

1:44:38 But we still have to throw some fear in there. I think this was just before the meeting adjourned and we rolled out the actor Volodymyr Zelensky and a couple of other actors to say, hey man, Russia's not just coming for us, they're coming for everybody. Peace in the region and hybrid warfare were the main topics of the Odessa summit, which was attended by Ukraine, Romania, the Republic of Moldova, Serbia, Albania, Greece, Montenegro, Croatia and Slovenia. Even more we need long-term guarantees that these can never happen again Romanian president Nico Chordane accused Russia of undermining peace efforts Moldova's president Maya Sandu has warned of the dangers of hybrid warfare aimed at influencing the country's parliamentary elections scheduled for this fall We do learn every day by new attempts and new ways of

1:45:43 to which Russia tries to interfere with our internal processes, political processes, democratic processes. It is going to be tough, but we do want Moldovans to decide for Moldova at the parliamentary elections, not Kremlin. The Black Sea port city of Odessa was shelled by Russian forces in the run-up to the summit. Just make every... Oh, oh, Russia's meddling in our elections. Just like Romania can't have that YouTube guy winning. He was the Russian candidate. It's also corrupt So corrupt man, and then sad news today if you heard the rock and roll pre-show with Darren Oh

1:46:25 Well, Brian Wilson, a co-founding member of the Beach Boys has died. Wilson's family announced his passing on his official website today. A cause of death was not released. Wilson and his cousin Mike Love wrote the song Surfin' in 1961, setting up the formation of the band known for its iconic surf song, Surf Sound. In 2023, Rolling Stone magazine named Wilson one of the 200 greatest singers of all time. He was 82 years old. Horrible obituary. Horrible. Singer? Singer? How about he was one of the worst singers in the band? He was a great songwriter. He was a terrific... he was not only a...

1:47:03 He was so prolific, he wrote all the Beach Boys material with him. He had a partner, a couple of different writers he would partner with. But he also did all the Jan and Dean material, and then there was two or three other little spin-off groups that you'd, you know, the guy can't even remember the name of them anymore, but he wrote all their material. Jan and Dean? The guy was like a maniac for writing songs. Yes. And they were all hits. He was interviewed recently, or before he died, and somebody asked him if, You know do you think you know it this was gonna be a hit or not he'd see alia It was like oh, he's best known for surfing USA. Let's go surfing how about how about God only knows how about? Pet sounds pet sounds it's not my favorite, but man you talk of people who love songs and songwriting pets No, the Beatles say it was their inspiration for Dr.. Pepper no and dr. Power doctor whatever

1:47:58 Dr. Pepper. Hello, I'm Jonas Paulus Ringo. We're here to do Dr. Pepper. That's right. Dr. Pepper. It was Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band. And I guess the Rolling Stones are big fans of pet sounds too. Yes, but oh no hey if I died just don't let anybody say anything He was best known for his hair. He was best known for his hair. His hair. Curry was iconic for his hair. Wow thank you very much. That's it. That's it. Dude that is so lame. You know, there's another thing I did. I'm watching Netflix and I don't watch that much TV, but I watch certain things. I like some of the documentaries. And so there's a new documentary on Led Zeppelin. Oh, one of my, one of the, I've, I've seen a lot of these. You've seen them, you've seen them live. You've done, I think I saw that. I saw them on their first appearance in the United States. Didn't you do heroin with Keith Moon at a certain point? I never did heroin with anybody. Okay. And so, uh,

1:48:59 When I saw them, I said, holy crap, these guys are unbelievable. It was the best band I've heard. John C. Dvorak, he picks the hits! And meanwhile, in the documentary, they point out that their first tour of the United States, the Rolling Stone magazine panned them. They're no good, the songs are stupid. I didn't know that, and it was pretty funny. So they do a whole documentary on Led Zeppelin and not one mention, not one bar is played, not one reference is made to my absolute favorite song from Led Zeppelin of all time. Oh, oh, let me guess. Your favorite Led Zeppelin song of all time?

1:49:45 Wow. What could this be? Stairway to Heaven. They didn't reference Stairway to Heaven? At all. Wow. And it's like this song I like, you know, this is one of the songs that If I go into it, if there's a piano bar or somebody playing guitar or something, I'll always go up to them and tip them and have them play Stairway to Heaven. Boomer fave. In the bar. And it brings the house down. Of course it does. And everybody, every musician that plays in bars seems to know the song. Go into any guitar shop.

1:50:26 Every guitar shop, there's a guy playing Stairway to Heaven on the electric guitar in the guitar room. It's like, it's a standard. Stairway, no stairway, that is crazy. I remember giving the one, it was a piano guy, and I said, can you, and I said, I gave him five, I think, can you play Stairway to Heaven? And his response was, hell yes. You know, there are guitar shops, I think, that actually have signs that say, no stairway to heaven. Please stop playing that song. We've heard it so many times. I forgot to mention, I think this is the Minister of Defense in the Netherlands sent a note to the Parliament.

1:51:15 And I'm translating on the fly here because I have the notes PDF so it looks legit. We have seen that President Trump has fired trans military members from the service in America. And as you know, we're having a hard time recruiting people in the Netherlands and we need more for our NATO membership. We would like to ask the government if they could explore options for us to take these trans-American military members and work for us. What? You heard me right. This is a joke, right? No, no, it's not a joke. Nope. They could go to Holland and learn Dutch. Yeah, it's crazy.

1:52:04 Anyway, good story about Led Zeppelin. Good story. It's a good story. Hey, since we're closing in on time here, I keep looking at, because you know, AI, I love stories about AI and I see you've got a series on Hollywood vs. AI and I'm kind of chomping at the bit to hear what this is. Okay, well we can run through it. It's a little... The problem is it has a dull quality to it but it's interesting. Dull? How could this be dull? It's great news! It's about a lawsuit taking place and it starts with the Hollywood vs. AI. This is a BBC, this is from BBC World Service and when they get into stuff, I mean... Yeah, it gets boring. Yeah, you're right. It's because the Brits are boring. Yeah, that's right.

1:52:55 But at least you'll learn something. And this is kind of interesting, and I may skip a bunch of them and just play the kicker at the end, because the end part was kind of interesting. But let's start with clip zero, one. Okay. Been using AI at any stage during it to help them. Right. Is this how it starts? Is this Hollywood versus AI BBC? Yeah. Yeah, I had to clip off the beginning of it. Okay. Hello, it's the BBC. We're going to talk about AI vs. Hollywood. We are now going to talk about AI once again because it's an issue that's proving to be quite a challenge for some of the world's largest entertainment companies. We're talking of course about copyright when it comes to AI and two of Hollywood's largest studios have taken legal action on this issue for the very first time. Here's our tech correspondent Lili Jamali who's in San Francisco.

1:53:49 These are the first Hollywood players to take on this issue of copyright having to do with AI. We've seen other companies in the publishing space like the New York Times do this, some authors have sued and the like, but these are the biggest players in Hollywood. And you know, this AI issue has festered for really a couple of years now. At times it's placed the studios at odds with their writers. Now we see the writers actually on side with the studios who are saying that this company Mid Journey has stolen their characters, their alleging copyright infringement of characters, some of which were developed a century or more ago. Yeah, we are talking about Disney and Universal who have bought this

1:54:31 case against Medina who haven't commented as yet. Let's bring in Rebecca Tushnet who's a law professor at Harvard specializing in copyright which I presume Rebecca is a pretty busy place to be at the moment. So mid-journey they're talking about imagery right so they're talking about visual copyright, not about words. Am I correcting that assumption? They're actually talking about everything. But when they talk about characters that were developed a hundred years ago, nobody, the idiot from the BBC... Yeah, isn't that public domain? That should have been public domain at least 25 years ago, based on the newest copyright laws. So what are we talking about here, that you're worried about characters developed a hundred years ago being

1:55:16 you know, lifted by AI. So I found that to be, oh, this is not good. All right. Onward with the second part here. One thing that struck us was these are the first big Hollywood studios to be bringing a case like this. Why is it taking them so long? We've seen the music industry probably move a little bit quicker on these issues. So, you know, it's hard to say from the outside, but I think clearly There's a question of are they going to cut licensing deals and the lawsuit suggests that they're seeking greater leverage in licensing deals. You know, they want to be the ones who pick.

1:56:00 the winners in AI. Yeah, which is not easy I suppose to... Rebecca, when we have a new concept coming, copyright is an old concept isn't it, but AI now adds a complicating factor to it. So do the existing laws work or do we need new laws put in place to tackle a new issue? So, to me, this isn't really a new issue, although you can easily come to different resolutions on it. But, you know, the core questions are, you know, is it fair use to train AI using existing images or video? No.

1:56:41 What do we do about the outputs? And so there are actually strong principles for both of those things, but that doesn't mean people won't change the laws to deal with it. But it is slightly different when you're influenced by something, isn't it, I suppose, to actually using generative AI to take thousands and thousands and thousands of things and come out with something. Oh, this is very interesting. I just realized that we're using different words for different concepts and you said no, but training AI, training

1:57:18 is a nice word, but it's not training. It's copying. It is making a copy of pixels down to the pixel level, whatever it does, it is copying that and then pasting it back into a new project based upon whatever you've asked it to do. It is copy. Training is copying in this case, just calling it someone else. You disagree? I'm not going to say one way or the other. Because I don't agree or disagree necessarily. It does involve some copying, but then... Well, now you make me want to play another one of the clips. Yeah, I'm good. Play the next clip.

1:58:04 So it really depends. In fact, that's pretty much how human brains learn, right? You know, when you were learning to read and write, you spent a lot of time copying stuff and even more time studying stuff and in fact, that's in your brain. people are making progress every day on actually detecting things straight from the brain. There was an experiment that reconstructed a Pink Floyd song just by looking at what people's brains were doing when they were listening to it. So, you know, it's not perfect, but the point being that the computer just makes visible

1:58:44 how learning worked for people. That is really interesting. Stay with us. Let me bring Mike in on this particular issue. I mean, AI is pushing the boundaries in many different areas. Copyright is one. Do you see other challenges coming up as well, Mike, away from this? Oh yeah. Ownership rights, even patents. There's a lot of areas of intellectual capital that's there. And we're going to have to really set down some rules. I mean, yeah, you did learn how to read and write that way, but you didn't make any money doing it. Mid Journey has made, has millions of subscribers and it made $300 million last year. Now, do they have the right to all that? That's the real question.

1:59:31 And usually when anybody makes money, if you have some connection to it, you may have right to take some of that money. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm only being not completely buying into that. Buying into what? The idea that, well, yeah, the brain works the same way, but you weren't making money. What if you're a little prodigy and you're playing Mozart, you know, you're a six-year-old that can play the piano like a maniac. Then you paid a fortune to go play Mozart. No, hold on, hold on. If you play something, there's a version of copyright which is performing rights, royalties that have to be paid. Yeah, and they're paid. Yeah, exactly. So this is not a foreign concept.

2:00:20 I mean, I'm... Well, these guys, they've licensed a lot of stuff. Some people do get paid. I mean, I'm not going to be a... take just the devil's advocate side on this whole thing because this thing is still up in the air. And the more interesting clip is the last clip, but I think clip four is still sitting in between this and that. Tell us a little bit more about Midgen because it's a company that some people will know about a lot of other people won't know much about what sort of things does it do? If you were asked Disney or Universal, they'd say that they're plagiarists. They're copyright free writers. That was I think the statement made by... by one of the movie studios. They basically create new content, new AI content, and it's quite vivid and quite interesting. And that's why it's drawn all these people. They're real curious and they're being entertained by it. That raises the question, do they have the right to take characters from Cars and Toy Story and Shrek and the Avengers and the minions from Despicable Me? Those are iconic characters.

2:01:23 Can they really pump them into their servers and create something new based on that? And you can make a good argument that what's being created isn't sufficiently different that they can claim that they own it. Yeah, well let us see how the cause come up with a catchy we're seeing you know There's an Elton John was talking about this whole problem the very famous musician from from England Are you seeing a similar discussion around Jimmy huge entertainment industries under and they're like South Korea China India Do you think this is an emerging issue for Asia as well? Yeah, I think definitely especially you know you mentioned Korea and I can't help but think of for example kpop groups and

2:02:08 how their likeness might be used in these kind of AI prompts. There's also kind of the deeper question beyond just copyright, but what about kind of ownership of your own image? Well, so I do have some outspoken thoughts on this, but I'll wait until the final clip goes. But in general, the data that most of these large language models, because that's what it is, have been trained on is from content that people have already signed their rights away to on the internet. So the best example is Reddit, who are now doing gangbusters in revenue because they're selling all of their users' writing into multiple AI companies. Anything you put on X is Grok's property. So

2:03:03 That's really been the boondoggle, but it is definitely just copying and pasting whenever it recognizes a pattern that is asked for it and it just sends it right back. So, I mean, the Hollywood guys, they probably have a little bit, but it's all third gen from stuff that was put out there on the internet. So it's going to be tough to prove that. Well, the thing that's interesting is this last clip, and I took about another 10 minutes out, I got sick of this. And so I got near the end here with this last comment where the woman notices there's actually three kind of dimensions to this suit, which involves the input, rights to the input,

2:03:52 output, whether it is plagiarism or it's something, you know, it can't really be original, but it looks to be. And then the one, the other kicker, which is the one that is really, to me, interesting is the prompt itself. And which means that the way the lawsuits go and the way she sees it is that the people writing the prompt, Darren, is... They're the ones violating the copyright? They can be violating the copyright. Wow! This is great! Put it on the dumb user! The thing that I would keep an eye on is there's the training part and then there's the output part and I just do want to emphasize that Disney's theory here is that somebody who says, you know, I want a minion icon for my Blue Sky account

2:04:46 to one of these engines is infringing copyright. And they want to hold the company responsible for that, even though it's the user prompting it. But the theory requires that the user is also an infringer. And I think we should worry about that. Oh, that's perfect. That's a... Well, yes, I feel, and I'm in agreement with this, if you say to any large language model AI thing, I want a minion for my blog, and you put a minion up there, yeah, you're violating copyright. That's why we don't choose art that has those types of images in it because we're not going to put it up there. We know these companies are very litigious, and we would in fact be violating

2:05:36 some of their nascent rights to their copyright. We're very careful about not putting like Mickey Mouse image for example. Or even people's licenses. Which should be public domain I might add. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna argue. That is interesting. And you know, I just want to say that, you know, I've been the naysayer on artificial intelligence and Andrew Horowitz sent me Sam Altman's latest blog post, which is basically... Did he send it to you too? No. It's like 8,000 words and it's, oh, the future is going to be great. And don't worry about it. He had AI write it. Of course he had AI write it. Of course he did.

2:06:15 Then it was just like, oh, this is awesome. And the world's going to change in so many ways. Like, whatever. I have worked for probably close to six hours a day for the past three months on a software project using multiple versions of AI. Then I can inequivocably say there is no intelligence in this. And the intelligence, there's a lot of definitions of intelligence, but I think a general term, a general definition is intelligence is the ability to learn from experience and adapt to and shape and select environments. And the reason why I can and actually your own experience, if you

2:07:01 You go to Anthropic, which I think you use, and you ask it something because you treat it like an entity. You ask it, but you ask it a different way and it gives you a different answer. That's because there's no intelligence to interpret what you're actually asking for, what you want. It is just looking at the pattern of the words you use and it's looking across its vast array of information it's sucked up and saying, ah, when this pattern emerges, I need to bring this pattern back. And they do that in a human way by saying, here's what I think you wanted or here's your and they'll talk to you like you're a human being. That's the parlor trick. But when it comes, so that's just English language. When it comes to syntax, as in computer code, in this case, Python,

2:07:48 If I did not prompt this, any AI, every single time to say, okay, when you make this change in my code, do not change the user agent from Godcaster to Mozilla or PyURL lib. It would do that by itself. And the reason why it would do that is even though I've said it, the same conversation, so-called workspace where it's supposed to remember what I said, it doesn't because it just says, oh, you want this piece of code, you want it to do this, I know where that code is and here's that code. And it's not intelligent enough to stop doing what I asked it to not do a thousand times. And of course, the minute I start

2:08:31 typing into the prompt in all caps, you stupid piece of crap. That's when I had to step away and say, OK, now I see what's happening. And that so all of that is fine. And if people want to spend trillions of dollars investing in that, great. That's fantastic. I don't think it's a great it's like a like a thesaurus grammar spellcheck copy paste machine on steroids. It definitely has a place as a tool. It's not intelligence. The only I find it fascinating that the big griper, complainer, moaner and groaner about AIU, use it more than I do. No, I did this specifically and I stayed at it because I wanted to be able to speak intelligently about what this is and what it isn't. And I finished my project. I'd finished it last Saturday. Yeah? Yes. And I could have done this with a software engineer who knows what he's doing in one day. It took me three months, a lot of pain,

2:09:29 But I learned exactly what AI is and what it isn't. And there's no intelligence. The danger, the only danger is this artificial intimacy. That's the AI that we have to watch out for. And we talked about that on the last show where people are going to chat bots and just like the 900 numbers. And in fact, this is from the the tech show in London here. She talks, flirts and even gets jealous like a real girlfriend. Remember you're my one and only, okay? Don't even think about chatting up other AIs. But Mio isn't human. She's an AI-powered virtual companion available 24-7 through the MyMio app.

2:10:12 Users can chat with her anytime, choose her clothes and even adjust her personality. Her creators from the Chinese company MetaLoop say Mio can help tackle the loneliness epidemic. When people feel lonely or people maybe didn't get connected to the society or didn't have a girlfriend or sometimes depressed so maybe they need someone to move her moves. Then maybe we'll come to the ABS and talk to her." The company says Mio provides emotional support, but reactions at London Tech Week were mixed.

2:10:49 Well I looked at her and I thought stereotypical men's fantasy are we looking at women being obsolete? Others are concerned about the psychological and ethical impact of an AI companion. In a way that really attends to all of your needs, you don't even know what it is that you need. Humans, unfortunately, especially insecure humans, are sometimes not to be really trusted with her. AI companions like Mio are particularly popular in East Asia, where Microsoft's SureEyes leads the market with hundreds of millions of users.

2:11:33 And it's young men who are lonely all because of their phones. It all would have been solved by forced socialization in grammar school and sock hops in high school. I am completely with you. It's not too late to bring them back. We can do a world tour, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sock hop. We can go out there, we'll play Stairway to Heaven to all these kids. And God only knows by the Beach Boys, it's going to be fantastic. No, I am genuinely concerned about this intimacy and this loneliness and people are going to, they're already flocking to these things. I mean the... Well, I think your parallel with the 900 number is apt. Yeah. Psychics, you know, Dionne Warwick, remember she had the psychic hotline. This is for lonely people and we have only

2:12:23 made more lonely people in the world, who at this point are all clicking and very frustrated because at this moment, both Cloudflare and Google Cloud are down all over the world. The entire service is down. Everything. I hope people are still listening to the show. Well, we don't use that kind of stuff. No, it's true. We have our own, this by the way is why we have donations, because we have our own independent server network that is run by our guy. Our guy. Boyd Zero. Our guy. That's right. He's our guy. He's a guy who's really good. He's one guy. He's doing a pretty good job, that one guy. And we have servers that are located outside the United States. And they're not on Google Cloud. And they're not on the cloud. No, but CloudFlare, that's going to,

2:13:14 That's pretty bad when Cloudflare gets taken out. A lot of podcasts are on Cloudflare. A lot of them. And they're blaming it on a third-party service that is key and is a key dependency. This is one of our microservices problems. Not so. It's a microservices problem with a macroservices result, everybody. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in don't copy that floppy. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. Joe. 1946 that's up. That's up for so it's up because of the riots

2:14:03 No, it's up because of the breastfeeding. All the women came back. We gotta listen to what those two boomers have to say now. Those two boobers, what they have to say. Yes, indeed, we are here and the trolls are joining us. By the way, I have a clip blitz for the second half of the break. Holy crap, let me get my jingles. I just thought I'd give you a warning. Fair warning. Yeah, okay. All right. Okay, I'll be ready for you for the clip bloods. All right. Yes, the trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io. Again, not a CloudFlare or Google Cloud hosted service because we know how the internet works. We didn't get psy-opped into using all of that big Silicon Valley tech. Oh no, we have big Northern Holland tech from Void Zero. Yeah, dependable. He was actually troubleshooting email with him this morning. I love that guy. He's like, hey man, everything's slow. No problem, we'll troubleshoot it right now. I'm prepping for the show. Yeah, but we'll troubleshoot it right now. Okay, good.

2:15:05 They are listening at trollroom.io. They might also, and you should be using a modern podcast app. Now I can't say that people who have podcasts hosted through Cloudflare That they will get the podcast but your podcast app will work for sure get one of those We notify you the minute we go live all the live shows It's the new trend in podcasting people doing it live because we're all sick and live We're sick and tired of all the overproduced Wall of sound crap with all the moons and Oz taken out. No, you want to hear real voices now We happen to be professional voices

2:15:43 But it doesn't matter. We just want to hear the real voices. And when they go live, it's real. You get a notification for that. And when we publish and the guys at Apple are listening, they do hear me. They didn't say they would. How do you know this? Because one of my buddies over there emailed me that I put the wrong size image into the podcast feed. So if you don't have a three, like a 1400 by 1400 image. And you've been doing this for so long. Yeah, it's there's reasons for that happening. It's it's it's user error, my fault. But he's actually a listener.

2:16:23 He's been a no agenda guy for a long, long time. So he'll see it come through. And if you put the wrong size image in, then they won't display it in their podcast app. Then you know what he does? He lets it go through because he's my boy. So I know, I know that they're hearing it. And I know that the people who work within the podcast division are good people. I just don't think they have the power. You know, they have to, they're sitting there looking like, Oh my God, we got another update from Tim Apple. Liquid glasses. Gorgeous. Look at the new icon for the podcast app. It's gorgeous. They're like, can we get pod ping in here already? So I feel your pain, everybody. Um, yes. Whenever we publish within 90 seconds, boom, you get notified and your podcast is there as long as it's not hosted on cloudflare. But of course,

2:17:11 Podcasting was never meant to be decentralized. It's decentralized by nature. So we expect a lot more people checking in with us because like, I can't get my, I can't get Megyn Kelly. Tucker won't work. Oh, I have to go to these two boobs. Who are these boomers? Noah Jenner. Oh, that's actually a pretty good show. That's interesting. So we shall see if attendance goes up and if downloads go up. Not that we look at them. As John mentioned, this is, Value for value is how we run the show. That's actually Void Zero started that a long time ago with IRC chat room now known as the troll room. But many people do things for us just I mean things that are invaluable really. I mean building maintaining website you would have cost anyway if you want a website built these days. I mean even just a WordPress blog you know but kind of looks like a website you're looking at five grand for someone to put that together.

2:18:06 and another like $350 a month just to host it and maintain it. So these are very valuable services that people do for us. Now we have three types of value we'd like you to send back for the value we put out there for free for everybody to use however you want. You listen to it, you download it, you stick it on a USB stick, you give it to your kids, you put it in the lockbox, whatever you do. And you can do that with time, talent, or treasure. We're going to thank people $50 and above and we'll tell you exactly how they blessed us with their valued donation. But first we want to thank another very important group of people who send us time and talent. That is our No Agenda artists.

2:18:46 Who are pretty much guaranteed to all go to jail for prompting. Once that lawsuit's over. For their illegal prompts. Illegal prompts. And for episode six. There'll be a book about it. Are you going to write it? Illegal prompts. Start now. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that is a true crime right there. True crime thriller. Illegal prompts. Episode 1771 was titled Home Depot-tation. Ha ha, see what we did there? And the art came from Blue Acorn, who brought us the LA riots with a clapboard, a slate that said, Influencer Event Scene 33. We thought that was kind of cool. We appreciated Blue Acorn doing that for us. So we used that as the album art. Let's take a look at

2:19:35 Some others. It's not even on the page anymore. We got so much art that came in. Wow, what happened? Oh, is it all Darren and Digital2112, man? Yep, it is. They just went crazy with the prompts. You know what it is? They've trained AI to do AI imagery. I think the prompt is prompting AI. It could be. Yeah, something like that. Then what are you going to do? Then what are you going to do with your lawsuit? Hey, I got nothing to do with it. For sure, it's degraded the quality of the art. Both in luminance a couple good pieces coming up. Okay. Well, let's see this on page two. Oh my goodness It's already on page two. Oh, so Darren actually did the no agenda in the Home Depot logo, which I think is where we got home depot ation from

2:20:23 Which was right next to the influencer event by Blue Acorn. Blue Acorn doesn't necessarily use AI, I think he's a hybrid artist? I think he uses half and half. For one thing, that influencer event, scene 33, there's no way AI wrote that on there. No, no, no. And so I also post these on X and on my Mastodon. And I got some troll who showed up. Would you still have a Mastodon? I thought you don't use Mastodon. Yeah, but I have my own. Oh, that's right. You have your little instance. And we have podcastindex.social. So, you know, I don't look at any of the other stuff, but I got some troll, picked up a troll. Who, by the way, he's actually a guy who I think likes the show.

2:21:08 Um, let me see if I can find it. Because he saw this image and says, you want to backtrack on it not being a big deal, the riots in Los Angeles? I know, right? I was like, what is your problem? He hasn't listened to the show much. No, I looked at his timeline. He has tons of retweets and Uh, let me see if I can find it. Where, wait, under, do I have to look? Because he was going off on me. Oh, how was your USAID trip to Moscow? Coincidence that your uncle was a top CIA guy? I can't trust you anymore! Like, uh, really? Let me see, where was it? Um, where was he? No, I don't think I can find him.

2:22:04 I don't trust you anymore. That was how many decades ago? Yeah, no, here he is. Here it is. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Okay, I found it. We got boots on the ground from someone who works at Palantir, LOL. And just so everybody knows, these are good guys. WTF, Adam? The show has gone from absolutely can't miss to borderline unlistenable. Neither of you are stupid, so it's got to be something else. So I reply, pro tip, you forgot to say we're Zionist chills. Bro, bro, if your response to criticism is that I'm a troll, very disappointing. We've engaged on here many times. If your response to Palantir having a direct line into the White House is no biggie, then the show is a lost cause. Imagine quitting weed and becoming more retarded.

2:22:55 I mean... And then it was back and forth. That's a good one. There's one last one. You listen to someone for three to eight hours a week over many years, it's easy to detect a disturbance in the force. I get that you got QAnon'd, but you've been taking it out on your producers for two years and the show has turned into a Jesus Boomer slop! I don't trust you! He made it clear he doesn't trust you. Yes, I think he doesn't trust me. We have a lack of trust with this particular individual. A lack of trust. And I'm very sorry. But there was no specifics.

2:23:42 No, well no, but that you know I went to... I mean has he caught you saying something that's completely inaccurate and you're lying like they do on the mainstream news? Well he said that I had said we got our boots on the ground from someone at Palantir and then he misquotes me by saying it's no biggie everything's okay. I'm like no I didn't say that. I said It's bullcrap. This whole Whitney Webb palantir is going to take over. Oh, he's a Whitney Webb guy. Yes. Of course. Whitney Webb's cute. It's probably Whitney Webb. It's Whitney Webb's alt account.

2:24:22 Alright, anyway onward. Thank you very much blue acorn. We appreciate you and all of the no agenda artists and Wow, I also I appreciate that little Twitter diatribe. It's always fun to do the voice again now Let us thank the executive voice every show and not always let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1772. Yes. 1772. Now we thank everybody $50 and above and we tell you how much they supported us with. In this particular segment we take a little page from

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2:29:23 Well, Adam might have a general disdain for actual Indians. Wait a minute. I do not have a disdain for actual Indians. Well, maybe he's talking about AI and that's code. Oh, okay. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Good point. C slander. Duck, duck goes AI summarizes it as polite, but comes across as overused or insincere. And that's why people prefer to use more engaging alternatives. Hopefully that's the first and last time I will ever use that opener.

2:29:58 Which is I hope this email finds you well. This is a very spooky note from an anonymous source. Speaking of AI, maybe young males are lonely and using AI chatbots to interact with because as John has alluded to they can't interact with women properly. Why? Got every trope in here you can think of. Because they literally, they like, why? Because they likely unfunny. Slur using degenerates or just the water. Now did I read that wrong? But it takes, but take that information with a grain of salt since that information did come from a Tic Tac.

2:30:47 Regarding the... this is code for somebody's out there. Regarding the wildfire smoke, do we have a short-term memory or something M5M? When was the last time Western Canada wasn't on fire during the summer? Yeah, thank you. Good point. Jingles, TTP, Jobs Karma, what's in... what's that in your mouth? Don't look over here. Thank you for your courage. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. What's that in your mouth? Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs Joe, you've got karma. All right, nice sequence. And Drew McArdle is in Lafayette, Louisiana, 333 and wants some baby-making karma with a goat. ITM boys, Drew McArdle from Baton Rouge here. I've been on the 2019 $20.19 Night Layaway Program since December of 2019. And I finally crossed the threshold to knighthood. I wonder if more people will be coming.

2:31:48 People who started that on the 20th of December 2019, check your amounts people. You may be a knight or a dame. I'm donating this $3.33 to establish my knight name as Sir Droodle on a Noodle, protector of the red stick and Laffy Taffy. Also, I'd like to call out my brother, Ben McArdle, my father, Frank McArdle, and my best friend, Caleb Michelson, Thank you for your courage love you both and I mean it you've got karma Anonymous in Alicante, España. Mmm 200 and

2:32:40 No. The prompt was on it, right in the middle of it, the big plus sign, 303 is his donation. And he's anonymous from Spain, but since Rita didn't really send a note, let's give him a double up karma. Okay. You've got... Gracious. ...karma. And we move to our first associate executive producer with $240, Lynn Craig from Colorado Springs, Colorado. No note, so Lynn also gets a double up karma. You've got... Karma. We have the Commodore dude named Ben in San Francisco. 220 222. That's a row of ducks. Commodore dude named Ben Duke of the San Francisco reminds the Bay Area Navy to, to say me up, me up, meet up at the dog patch saloon this Saturday at three 33. Let's escape the control grid.

2:33:37 To beat some nice protests going on too and he has Hashtag hot pockets hashtag pina colada escape which I think pockets If you watch a racist, that's what he wanted if you're male you're a pig If this is you are privileged, I forgot this one It's good Thank you very much Commodore dude named Ben. We move on to Sean Homan from Noblesville, Indiana to 1911. Ah, that's the code right there, Book of Jonah. He says, his love endures forever. Peace and blessings Adam and John. Thank you brother.

2:34:37 Frank Maloney in Sister Bay, Wisconsin. He wants a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Came in with $210.60. Frank Maloney and his big country unit, Sister Bay. His big country unit. He's got us all scrambled here, so I'm not sure what he's referring to when he says his big country unit. Sounds like a band name. Could be. Sister Bay, Wisconsin. Available wherever you stream music. So it's like, okay, Frank Maloney's big country unit.

2:35:14 Sister Bay, Wisconsin. There you go. Check it out. Frank Maloney. Check it out. We'll check it out. Do some jingles for us, Frank. Eli the Coffee Guy is back with 20612. He says, John, last Thursday's show you asked if our Ethiopian Guiji organic is pea berry coffee. It is not. Peaberry has nothing to do with the size of the bean. Although peaberry beans are generally smaller, you can tell the peaberry from its roundness as opposed to its size. The peaberry is actually a mutation in about 5% of coffee beans where the bean develops one cherry instead of the regular two cherries, which makes for a more intense flavor profile in a denser bean.

2:35:59 Jingles the more you know. The more you know in the morning. All this Peaberry talk makes us want to bring back our Papua New Guinea Peaberry, so for a limited time only, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order and grab a bag today. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. And Eli actually got a free plug on DH Unplugged, which is not true because it's very pluggy, that unplugged. You plugged him. Yes, I did. I mentioned him and now that he's got the Peaberry, I expect a bag. That's right after Andrew Horowitz said that as a Jew he doesn't like people harping on China. I was on the floor. It was pretty wild. I was on the floor over that. But he also mentioned he's gotten to the point where he can't drink coffee. He'd get some, you know, GERD or something. I don't know. GERD?

2:36:53 Gerd. That doesn't sound good. Luke. Frank Castaneda in Austin, Texas. Oh, that's Sergeant Fred. Sergeant Fred. I said Frank. Yeah, that's wrong. Sergeant Fred. Did he not send in a... He always sends in a note. No, this was a check. This is a bank check. That's why it's gray. Sergeant Fred, he is a Vietnam War veteran. Let me just make sure I didn't get an email from him. Castaneda. He may have sent you a note. I'm looking for it, but I don't see anything. Maybe he just wants to double up karma. Well, he's getting to double up karma. We love you, Sergeant Fred. Good to hear from you. You've got... karma. Very happy to hear from him. I'm glad he's okay. He had some Agent Orange issues. Oh, yeah, those poor guys. Yeah, he's a good man, a veteran, and a real American.

2:37:49 And rounding it out with $200 is Linda Lou Patkin from Lakewood, Colorado. And Linda asked for Jobs Karma and says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc. for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. On a personal note, I recently moved to a town more befitting my stature at the round table, Castle Rock, Colorado. As a result, I would love some house-selling karma for my Lakewood home. Well, let me get you some jobs karma first. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And now some house-selling karma for you. You've got karma. There you go. Boom. Beautiful.

2:38:42 That takes care of show 1772 as we approach 1776. Ah, that's gonna be a banger of a show ladies and gentlemen. Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for 1772. Remember you can support us in any amount you want, anytime. You don't have to jump through hoops, go to Patreon or you know sign up for stuff. There's no tote bags. We do have producerships for you. We've got all kinds of stuff and if you donate long enough and you reach a thousand dollars over 20 years that's fine you become a Knight or Dame of the Roundtable. For more information go to knowagendadonations.com. Thank you again for supporting us our execs and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. What's that in your mouth? Shut up, Steve.

2:39:41 We do have a deal with China though. I don't know if he... Supposedly. Well, here's the latest here. Hold on a second. This is the latest. We got a deal! After two days of negotiations between the US and Chinese trade representatives, President Trump declared in a social media post Wednesday that a trade deal with China is done, while acknowledging both he and Chinese President Xi Jinping still have to approve a final agreement. He spoke to his trade team who did a fantastic job negotiating this. on behalf of the United States in meeting with their Chinese counterparts. The president is talking to them about the details of it now, but what the president heard he liked. The president said the US will keep a 55% tariff on Chinese imports, while China will keep a 10% tariff on American goods. Trump also said Beijing will supply the US with magnets and rare earth minerals, which are vital to a number of industries. This is an American agreement. If you're an American company,

2:40:38 and you need magnets, they're going to approve it right away, which is what we needed. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told CNBC China agreed to do more business with the US, including buying more US agriculture and equipment. That's quite the deal if that's true. Man, 55% tariffs and we get all the magnets we can stick together? All the magnets our kids can swallow? That's dynamite. The kind of magnets you don't want your kid to swallow. No, no, I'm sure. Okay. Well, and China seems to be happy with it? Well, I think that part of that deal, which they don't talk about since when they break down the tariffs, 25% of that 50 is for the fentanyl.

2:41:24 And there's another part that which could do in other words down the road somewhere, China can just put the stop to a couple of things. They'll just pull the rug out from under a lot of those tariffs. It'll be back down to about 20 percent maybe. Oh, I see. There's something fishy about that number. Yeah, well, as long as everyone's happy, which we can't say. You know, it reminds me of the thing you brought up earlier, the 5 percent, 3 and a half percent. You know, it looks like one thing, but it's another. It's what you do. It's the art of the deal, baby. We can't say the same for Iran, although who knows. A developing story now overseas, the US government is evacuating some diplomats and military families from the Middle East because of rising tensions with Iran. By the way, I'm not so sure the term evacuating is correct because from what I read it was voluntary for the

2:40:38 and you need magnets, they're going to approve it right away, which is what we needed. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told CNBC China agreed to do more business with the US, including buying more US agriculture and equipment. That's quite the deal if that's true. Man, 55% tariffs and we get all the magnets we can stick together? All the magnets our kids can swallow? That's dynamite. The kind of magnets you don't want your kid to swallow. No, no, I'm sure. Okay. Well, and China seems to be happy with it? Well, I think that part of that deal, which they don't talk about since when they break down the tariffs, 25% of that 50 is for the fentanyl.

2:41:24 And there's another part that which could do in other words down the road somewhere, China can just put the stop to a couple of things. They'll just pull the rug out from under a lot of those tariffs. It'll be back down to about 20 percent maybe. Oh, I see. There's something fishy about that number. Yeah, well, as long as everyone's happy, which we can't say. You know, it reminds me of the thing you brought up earlier, the 5 percent, 3 and a half percent. You know, it looks like one thing, but it's another. It's what you do. It's the art of the deal, baby. We can't say the same for Iran, although who knows. A developing story now overseas, the US government is evacuating some diplomats and military families from the Middle East because of rising tensions with Iran. By the way, I'm not so sure the term evacuating is correct because from what I read it was voluntary for the

2:42:13 dependents to come home, so spouses, children, etc. But sounds a little scarier when you say they're being evacuated. And threats of an attack on US bases. ABC's Perry Russom has details. Perry, good morning. Good morning. Riane, good morning to you. The threat posed by Iran is prompting the US to prepare a partial evacuation of the embassy in neighboring Iraq. Officials say the evacuation of US diplomats in Baghdad will begin via commercial flights with the military on standby if needed. There's also a voluntary evacuation of military family members at bases in the region, including those in Bahrain and Kuwait. President Trump speaking last night about the growing security concerns. They are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens. But they are, we've given notice to move out.

2:42:57 And this comes after Iran earlier this week threatened to target all US bases in the region if negotiations over its nuclear weapons program fail to reach a deal. Those talks between the US and Iran resume on Sunday in Oman. I didn't like this report because they make it sound like Iran is, we're gonna bomb your bases. It's a little more... Yeah, I have a BBC version of the same report you might want to play. Yeah, and then I want to play the France 24. Let me see, you're Iran, here we go. The United States is preparing to move some staff and their families from its embassy in Iraq. Okay, that's a little more nuanced.

2:43:34 as well as from military bases in Kuwait and Bahrain. Officials say the partial evacuations down to what they describe as heightened security risks in the region. Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman reports from Washington. The move comes after weeks of talks between the US and Iran. President Trump has hoped to strike a deal to stop Tehran developing a nuclear weapon, but he said today he was growing less confident it would stop enriching uranium. Earlier this week he also held a 40-minute phone call said to be tense with Israel's Prime Minister who has long argued for a military rather than diplomatic approach. Iran's Defense Minister said today the country would target US military bases in the region if a conflict was imposed upon it.

2:44:19 Alright, let's listen to the French 24 version. Amid a feared deadlock in nuclear talks, tensions between the US and Iran have flared up again. After a week-long war of words, Donald Trump confirmed that US diplomats were being removed from the region. Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens, but they are been, we've given notice. to move out and we'll see what happens." American and Iranian negotiators have been planning to meet later this week for another round of talks. But Trump told reporters on Monday that Iran had adopted an unacceptable negotiating position, in particular on enrichment. A US-backed plan suggested that Iran could only enrich uranium at low levels if it

2:45:07 effectively blocking Iran's ability to enrich the fuel to produce a nuclear weapon. Their thoughts on the deal and I said, you know, it's just not acceptable Many are concerned about the risk of a potential regional conflagration between Iran and Israel should diplomacy fail Israeli officials have repeatedly threatened to attack Iran if it does not effectively surrender its nuclear program

2:45:46 On Wednesday, the Iranian defense minister issued a warning in the event that the talks broke down. God willing, the talks will bring results. But if they don't and conflict is imposed to us, the enemy's losses will be greater than ours. In that case, America will have to leave the region because all its bases are within our reach and without hesitation we will target all of them in the host countries. Analysts say that Iran is now on the brink of being able to manufacture enough nuclear material to fuel a nuclear weapon. We're the only ones who got it right! No one else tagged the story with their just a week away disappointment. Yeah, just a week away, can't leave that out. We also got a boots on the ground report from one of our military guys who's talking about how they're moving equipment around. I have it here, you want me to read it? No, I think it's...

2:46:39 I don't want you to read it. Okay, I won't read it. But the point is that... All this, including that note, all seemed to be, and what's happening, it doesn't seem to be secret. No. This is all posturing to scare the crap out of the Iranians. We're moving all our people out, and you're going to attack the bases, there's going to be anybody there. They're going to be gone. It's looking like they're leaving them sitting there, Iran, as sitting ducks. Wait a minute. Is Israel controlling us again, John? I think we're controlling this, of course, if Israel was controlling us they'd have bombed them already. Of course. They would have bombed them by now. But the point is that this is all part of the negotiating process that Trump uses. And it's like, yeah, well, you know what's going to happen? And everything seems to be

2:47:37 I wouldn't call it a bluff because I think they could bomb them. But it's definitely messages are going out, you're gonna get bombed if you don't do the deal and we're gonna be out of here. We're moving our bases, we're taking people home. You know, yeah, go ahead, bomb the empty base, big deal. Yeah, if I was Iran, I'd just do the deal. I don't understand what the problem is. For some reason, though, I'm looking at the quad, like people are still mad about Los Angeles. They're not worried about Iran at all. I don't understand. They're not taking the bait. They're not doing it. I see the Ruthless podcast has joined the Will Cain show. Wow, that's riveting. I did pick up a nice, a little, just a short clip

2:48:31 from the president on an Air Force One gaggle, a gaggle, where... and actually the DH Unplugged podcast every single Tuesday goes live in the evening. You pick it up on Wednesday. It's a great podcast about things in the markets and John and Andrew waffling about China. It's a good show. I listen to it. I listen to it all the time. Talking about the trial balloons being let up, let into the air about a future or the next or maybe nearer future chairman of the Federal Reserve. I don't think you guys got this clip in time for the show, maybe it was after that, but here President Trump is

2:49:14 explain something which is exactly what your best podcast in the universe discussed months ago. And if we had a good Fed chairman you would lower rates and you know what if inflation happened in a year from now or two years let them raise rates but we're going out for long-term debt or short-term debt we have a lot of debt coming due because Biden had all short-term debt mostly and we would get a lower rate and a lower interest rate if this guy with lower rates. We get a lower interest rate. It's unbelievable. And he's worried about inflation. If he worries about inflation any longer, all he has to do is get the lower rate, let us go out, borrow at a much lower rate, much lower. You could go down a point or two, but go out, borrow, and if in two years inflation comes back, he raises rates.

2:50:00 But he keeps them the same, it's just, it's insane. Are you already thinking about who your next Fed chair? I know it's 2026, what is tariff excise food? So you're already thinking about it? It's coming out very soon. What are you thinking about? I could tell you, but I don't think I have a pretty good idea. So there it is exactly what we discussed. He wants the Fed to lower the rates so we can refi, refi the country, which is a good idea. And then Trump says if inflation goes up you raise the rates, but then we'll have longer-term debt. Everybody's got the stable coin and it'll be good to go. We'll lower our interest payments. How at this point is Jerome Powell just not an American? Is he not patriotic?

2:50:47 Why doesn't he do this? The ECB has lowered rates eight times. The way the Fed is structured right now, they don't believe what Trump says is going to work. Is going to work? They don't think that you can... They see that the interest rates are always pegged to inflation. And unless there's an economic downturn, there's no reason to lower the rates. It's just a rule the way they see it. They're not thinking about strategizing, you know, refinancing the country. They're just not on the agenda. They're never right, by the way. Exactly. Thank you. They're always wrong. So why would they be right now? Why would they change? Always wrong. Yeah. But it seems like the right thing to do. You know, just... It doesn't mean a thing.

2:51:39 By the way, in Europe now, having over 3,000 euros in your possession is about to become illegal. What? Yep. Yep. You are not allowed to have more than 3,000 euros in cash. Why? Because that means you're criminal. There's no way you need that kind of money for any legal matter. You should be using banks and stablecoin or the... The digital euro, whatever it is, they are getting rid of cash. You cannot have more than 3,000 euros cash in your possession or you will be deemed suspect and probably involved in criminal activity. Yep. That's bullcrap. Yeah, in fact a Dutch guy

2:52:30 was caught... Some people like having cash. Yeah, was caught, caught at the border with Germany. He had a like a mini fridge in the back, he had a hundred and twenty four thousand euros in there, hidden, and off to jail you go. What do you need that cash for? Where'd you get that cash? You better tell us about that cash. You can't have that cash, it's not good to have that cash. You are probably involved in illegal criminal activity, aren't you? Meanwhile, Everybody's making bank on the drug trade through the Netherlands. This is the port of preference for shipping your drugs into Europe. I'm sure sanctioned by politicians at all. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. You cannot have cash. Wait, you want to do the clip blitz? Oh, okay. Hold on a second. I'm sorry. I was a little underprepared.

2:53:28 I know, I know, I know, I know. You told me, you told me earlier Blitz. Okay, alright, clip Blitz. Ladies and gentlemen, we haven't done it in a long time. Here we go. Red 33! Alright everybody it's time for a clip blitz. John Cena. ABC 7 Mark Brown talking about how people enjoy watching cars burn. Large group of people it could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there in the wrong way and turn what is just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.

2:54:08 All right, Cliff Blitz was next. This was under FISY. FISY. A federal judge has ruled the Trump administration cannot continue to detain Mahmoud Khalil on the basis of Secretary of State Marco Rubio's determination he's a threat to American foreign policy goals. It's unclear whether Khalil will soon be released from the immigration detention center in Louisiana, where he's been held since ICE agents arrested him in early March. Judge passed his own ruling until Friday to give the government time to appeal. It's another no agenda. The NEA chief kind of forgetting what the wordage of the Declaration of Independence is. We the people! We the people! We the people!

2:54:54 All of us have that right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of justice! That's right, something like that, you know the thing! You know the thing, Sun Poles. Sun Poles? France and Saudi Arabia are gathering countries for a conference next week at UN headquarters in New York to support the recognition of a power... I'm sorry, that's the wrong one, here you go, Sun Poles. And the European Space Agency's released the first ever images of the Sun's south pole. The footage, taken from a solar orbiter spacecraft, shows a shimmering bright atmosphere interspersed with dark clouds of gas. Scientists hope it'll help them understand why the sun's poles switch from north to south and back again every 11 years.

2:55:47 These are good, I missed them. World Bank. The World Bank is to end a long-standing ban on the funding of nuclear energy projects in developing countries to help meet soaring electricity needs. It said demand for electricity in poorer countries is expected to more than double in the next 10 years. And you can close the locker room doors, that's it. I'm sorry, close the... I'm screwing it up. Where is it? Locker room doors? I don't think we have a locker room. No, I'm saying that the clip list is over. Oh, the clip list is over. Woo, thank you!

2:56:38 Wow, way to bring back the clip blitz. Haven't had one of those in a long time. Those of you who stuck with us this long are joyous, of course. And right now we are waiting for the tip of the day. We've got the end of show mixes. We have some meetup reports. We got birthdays, nights, PhDs. And John is now going to thank the rest of our supporters, Value for Value, who supported us $50 or more. Right at the top of the list is Dame Rita once again and from Sparks, Nevada, 12345. She says, ITM. Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 105.35. Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, 100.

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2:59:02 Also, be sure to check out the nick you dad calm which is great podcast join the Nick you dad push-up challenge to help raise awareness about Nick you dad mental health Thanks again for all the support. Can I get some goat karma and I love my truck? I was also made a baron a few weeks back, but I wanted to use this donation to request a name change Can I be dubbed barons of Allah guardian of the Nick you and champion of the Nick you dads, of course? Thanks for all you do and a special thanks to you Adam and Tina for your support We're so grateful if you are a Nick you dad or no one check out the Nick you dad calm and the Nick you dad on all our social media platforms and thanks again and Yes, I'll give him some go karma if you do the truck get it. Well you you do the truck for I do the truck first You've got karma

3:00:00 Sir Alex, it's been around a long time. Oh, do I have this one? Yeah, you do. It's on the PDF. Okay. This is from Todd Grubb. He's in Imlay City, Michigan. He came with 6933, but in fact this is a nighting. He's gotten up to $2,000. This is a K-Pak chiropractic. He says, we started listening to the show at the early part of COVID, kicked in the mouth by some douchebag on Twitter. This donation puts me over $2,000 in donation completed to 20 include to 20 month dollar $50 nighthood layaways via PayPal summer under okay has all these different names this note does not need to be read

3:00:41 But he just wants to be de-douched. And he'll be knighted Sir Todd, Knight of Cows and Pigs and Chickens. And he would like to gift his wife a damehood for their 20th anniversary. And they never had a fight. She would be Dame Josepha, Dame it all to hell. Montreal brisket and seagram's very own at the round table and she would like gigolos and blow. Okay, I'm gonna get the gigolos and blow. Is she on the list? I believe so. I don't think so. I'm looking at the list. Yeah we do. We have a dame. We have a dame. Joseph Grubb, James Josephina, dame it all to hell.

3:01:30 Oh, I said, look at the wrong, I was saying, of course, Jay rarely makes a mistake. No, rarely. Which is good. Jay does not make mistakes. Okay, onward with Chad Hewitt and his Folsom, California, 6640. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6006. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006. Matt Lambert in Fuquay, Verena. North Carolina is 5272. Hakan Andresen in Portland, Oregon, 5272. Commodore G in Cincinnati, 5167. Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland, 5150. And he says, 5150, Cali is crazy, referring to Southern California.

3:02:23 And there they are, bad idea supply. Look them up on Google. For all your burning needs, literally, 50-50. Sir Economic Hitman in Tombill, Texas, 50-01. And now we have $50 donors starting with William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Rene Knig... Knigge. Knigge. Knigge. In Utrecht. Utrecht. Utrecht. Netherlands 50 Roderick Brown and mermaid someplace in Canada PE what could that be don't know poutine Steven Schumacher in Zinnia Ohio Matthew Bush

3:03:11 Bush in Maple Valley, Washington. This is a happy Father's Day to the best dad and husband Get those father day. Yes get those father day mentions in the next show the next donation segment Next show on Sunday, Father's Day, don't forget. Remember, Andrew Grasso, Mineola, New York. Tom DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania. Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California. And last on our, that's actually a pretty short list today, Ethan Reitz, I believe, in New Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

3:03:47 And he's got a biblical thing to go to, Corinthians 15 1-4 and Romans 3.23-26. Okay. Go look him up. Yes, Tim DelVecchio. And yes, it's 1 Corinthians 15, 4. Thank you all very much to these donors, $50 and above. We love your support. We do not do anything under $50. The guarantee anonymity, we don't want to screw anything up so we just stop it right there, but we see you. $49.99, we appreciate everybody, every single donation, those smaller amounts really do add up and we...

3:04:24 Appreciate you helping us out that way as well. You can support us for the next episode as John said it is Father's Day So consider a Father's Day donation for your dad Or for your husband who's a great dad go to knowage in the donations calm You can make any kind of donation you want there. There's some suggestions You can also just set up a sustaining donation any amount any frequency is all up to you Thank you again for supporting the best podcast in the universe And where we had no birthdays on the last show, we have a couple this today. We have Mitchell Reeves wishing his wife, Sierra Reeves, a very happy 33rd and she celebrates today. Mom, Dad, Cullen and Rune say happy birthday to Nora. She turns 8 tomorrow.

3:05:10 Al Kelkoff, his smoking hot wife Barbara. Boy does he love her. She celebrates tomorrow. And we got David Vundenbrand and he celebrated today his birthday and he sent us some Jew money. Thank you very much. Happy birthday for everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Yes indeed, we just heard him. Sir Alex Zavala now becomes a Baron. He's moving up in the peerage at no agenda. He is Baron Zavala, guardian of the NICU and champion of the NICU dads. And that is definitely worth looking into because, you know, NICU dads, when your kid's in the

3:05:57 In the ICU, dads have all kinds of different challenges and they can support each other and he's doing great work on that and we appreciate all he does and we appreciate him supporting us. And we have two PhDs to celebrate, Barbara Kelkoff and Richard Hollow. Both have become PhDs of no agenda. What exactly is this PhD? Is this the media deconstruction? Is that what the PhD is? Yes, this is a rerun of the media deconstruction PhD. That's beautiful. It is. Yeah, I got some. You have one? I have one and someone sent me a picture of theirs on their wall and they love it a lot. It's good. Go to knowagenderrings.com. That's where you can let us know, Barbara and Richard, where you want us to send your certificates and what you want on it. And of course everybody can take a look there at the

3:06:43 at the PhD certificates and also the knight rings and dame rings and we do have a couple of knights and a dame. We have Troy Funderburk who is a layaway knight and I have a note here says, I would like to be Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley. Thank you for the consistent and articulate deconstruction. For good measure please, throw in some baby making karma as we try for our second human resource, says Troy Funderburk. I will Let me see, I will get that ready for you so we can roll that out for you in a little bit. But first, why don't we bring them all up and if you can give me a blade to work with. There you go. That's very good. Please, the following people, join us here.

3:07:26 On the podium for the No Agenda Knights and Dames, we need Troy Thunderburk, we need Drew McArdle, and Todd Grubb. All three of you gentlemen are now knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. And if you don't mind, I'd like to call up Josephina Grubb. Josephina, you are now a dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. I pronounce the Kate B, Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley, Sir Droodle on a Noodle, Protector of the Red Stick and Laffy Taffy, Sir Todd, Knight of Cows and Pigs and Chickens, and Dame Joseph, Dame at all to hell, who wanted gigolos and blow, and along with that we got some Montreal biscuits and seagrams. Man, I ran out of time because we also have

3:08:09 mutton and meat at every single round table for our knights and dames. The list is ever-growing. We have enough chairs for everybody. We thank you so much for supporting the show. Go to noagendarings.com. Look at those handsome rings. They're Cignet rings, so you can use them to seal your important correspondence. We give you some sticks of wax to do that with. Multi-colored. And as always, a certificate of authenticity. And our gratitude and thanks for supporting No Agenda. No Agenda! Yeah! Yeah baby, yeah baby, yeah baby. John's tip of the day is on the way, but first we have a couple of meetup reports. The first is from Kodiak, I believe it's in Alaska. In the morning, this is Sir Uncle Cave Bear, the washed up artist, reporting live from the Witten Family Reunion slash No Agenda Meetup here in Kodiak, Alaska. We'd all like to thank you, John and Adam, for your courage. Oh my gosh, listen to that horn!

3:09:05 Don't eat me, Bojiden! Chemtrails! Party! All right, Kodiak, nice. Now we move to the fourth annual Louisiana crawfish broil. Noah Jenimita reports. This is Dame Mary Moon introducing the fourth annual Louisiana crawfish broil. Sir Jewclaw here, ready to go shoot my noodle gun. Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite, they're eating the crawfish! David from Baton Rouge in the morning. Tess, guest of Dame Tracy, no agenda, virgin. Sir Kane Break, enjoying the crawfish and fisting my nuts. No, not fisting. This is Tyler in the morning. Mitch, enjoying Sir Knight, the nuts and the virgin. We want to see you next year on the bayou eating some crawfish.

3:10:03 This is Brian in the morning. Hey John, you're a scoundrel. Thank you for your courage. Isaac from Lafayette, ITM, a listener from the Daily Source Code days and this is my first meetup, awesome, great time. Erin from Lafayette, Louisiana, also my first meet in ITM. And this is not a douche Drew, soon to be Sir Droodle on a noodle in the morning. Let's feed some blind goats. Don't laugh. Why you are laughing? Shut up. Nice production. Thank you very much. Meetups taking place today. The Northern Wake Freedom Summer Slammo Wammo kicks off at 6 o'clock in Raleigh, North Carolina at Hoppy Endings. Tomorrow, Calling All Gitmo Nordics Ursund Meetup. Yes, this is the big Cobenhavn, Denmark at Mikkelersbaghavn Refn.

3:10:57 You better be there. Paul Pietermann is organizing that and I want a meetup report. Include your servers, please. On Saturday, the Lazarusvaart picnic, that is the beach next to the marina in the old town of Culemborg in the Netherlands. Sir Hendrik, is Sir Hendrik back on his feet again? I hope so. That's awesome. Saturday, the Treasure Valley meetup, 3 o'clock in Eagle, Idaho, Old State Saloon. Saturday as well, downtown New York City, 3 o'clock, the Six Point Brewery at Brookfield Place, New York, New York, JoeNY33 organizing. Those guys always have a big group. Include Your Server, I want to hear all about it. As we heard earlier, the Dogpatch San Francisco summer meetup kicks off on Saturday at 3.30 at Dogpatch Saloon in San Francisco. The Duke of San Francisco hosting that.

3:11:42 The Comox Valley meetup five o'clock Church Street tap house in Comox British Columbia That's on Saturday and also on Saturday trains trains and more trains. No spooks allowed 730 in Davenport, Iowa Mickey's Irish pub be there or be lame coming up international meetups the 17th of June con France. We have let's see was that the only international or the 19th was in September. Hey, there's a lot of meetups. There's always tons of meetups always one in the neighborhood. You can find them at no agenda meetups calm go there take a look at the lineup if you can't

3:12:19 find a meetup near you. Don't panic! It's just like a TED Talk, only without douchebags. Start one yourself. noagenda meetups dot com. Always a party. You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. And as requested, I never forget a baby making karma for our new night. You've got... Karma.

3:12:57 And at this point in the show is where we always like to select our ISO for the end of the show. Bad news! I do not have a single ISO lined up for today. I have one good one that I was gonna pull if you didn't have a good one. Well, you nailed it. Holy crap! What a great show! Indeed. AI to the rescue, you're gonna get sued for that prompt, Dvorak, I'm telling you. But first, before the lawsuit, it's time for John's Tip of the Day. Creative vibes for you and me. Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti.

3:13:58 and he's like, if you're getting into Linux, you wanna go to his website, christitus.com. But if you want the absolute most amazing Windows utilities, he also developed a system called WinUtils, and it would be, you get to it, because you can't actually download it, it runs on, kind of in the cloud, his cloud, Is it running on Google Cloud? Because it will be offline. I doubt it to be honest about it, but the website you want is winutil.

3:14:38 Chris Titus, that's C-H-R-I-S-T-I-T-U-S dot com. And this thing runs only, you have to load it from the Windows Admin PowerShell. What could possibly go wrong? Which takes over your whole machine. But you have to get, but he got rules on how to get there and what to cut and paste and throw it in there. Once you load this thing, It's astonishing. It's got every known utility that you can imagine, all free utilities that are available for Windows in one tab. Another tab's got this huge pile of checklists to optimize your system so it runs better. It's one thing after another. This guy's, this WinUtil product is unbelievable. Wow, that's an endorsement coming from you, the man who wrote the telecommunications book for Windows.

3:15:35 And I will mention this, if you're thinking about Linux and you just go to his regular website, he is a fanatic about Arch Linux. Yeah. And to the point where he says he's been trying to break it for over a year. He says it's impossible and He's got tutorials and all kinds of things. It's just he's just the guy It's like surprises me that he's not more well-known That is a now you said it was amazing didn't you said it was just an amazing product? Yes, I said amazing That is an endorsement you can pass up more at John's tip of the day dot net And sometimes Adam created by Dana Brunetti then of course thank you to Dana Brunetti, where would we be without Dana Brunetti? I would just be up Schitt's Creek without a paddle

3:16:36 And that is the end of our broadcast day. That's it for our deconstruction for this episode of No Agenda 1772, but it'll just be three days waiting. We'll be back with 1773 and it is Father's Day. So make sure you thank your dad, thank your husband, thank that important dad in your life. You can do it with a nice note at noagendadonations.com. Ending our show as usual, We will have a couple of end of show mixes. Dee's Laughs comes in from Toronto. Tom Starkweather with some nice little LA protest ditties. And Nautilus K is back with another end of show mix. All fresh, all new, all for you. And up next after we leave the airwaves, it is That Larry Show, episode 489. Larry with the deep voice. He's the man to watch.

3:17:29 In the meantime, I will say thank you very much for listening. And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like Saturday's going to be a winter, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday. Meet us there and remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then, adios, fofos, hui hui, and such. These automated systems are so lame. It's like... You can't afford some dollar an hour person in India. I mean, you can barely speak English. This would be better than this. Yeah, the true AI. Anonymous Indian. That's what we need. What a sight to see, such a fractured society. What do people mindlessly subscribe and see?

3:18:16 Then they make up their own version of reality Take a look at Wall Street, are we in trouble? NVIDIA and AI, there's a huge bubble Oracle's literally out sitting there sounding stubborn But Elon's saying we don't have a habit, surely we're in trouble Anonymous, Indians, AI, and so many pot schemes Nightmares don't hit the same when you're living out this Eurodroop Abnormal dreams being pitched to solve all of our Mondays Monday manual human tasks is in the chatbox Can it even sort emails? Don't even ask H1B is not for me, you see Clarified by Big Pharma Always wanna harm ya Now he's tryna charm ya He's got the little ravage to snake Rama Swami did his job leading up to the campaign Bringing in the best talent was for a day Can you remove the stain? Taking 10% off the top now draining the brain Every country should make its own citizens its number one priority

3:19:08 Not just cuz you check a box as a visible minority Culture is fashion in the city of the six many faces to a city more than six People coming from all over the world to get a fix funny undefeated. This is not a tricks This is an exit strategy for you and for you only and I would support it you need to become the tech grouch again. Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you and then of course you got to slip around that outfit all over the place. You got to keep the voice going. I got a Bakelite phone, it's fine. People will love you. They will glom onto the screen. I'm working on it. I will get you the green screen. Maybe we are part of a national experiment to determine how far the federal government can go. Tuesday's demonstrations were largely peaceful. Two men are in custody accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at law enforcement. We're seeing protests pop up in other cities across the country. We've learned that National Guard troops

3:20:05 already have detained civilians in the LA anti-ice protest. First of all, we want to make sure that what has happened in California does not happen in Texas. We're coming after all these people. Our community must be kept safe for peaceful protests and against thugs and criminals. looking to start trouble. The Trump administration is signaling it will not back down. The Pentagon's deploying nearly 700 Marines to Southern California to help the National Guard respond to immigration protests that turned into clashes with authorities over the last few days. U.S. Marines and National Guard are on standby outside of Los Angeles where demonstrators have again been protesting President Donald Trump's immigration policies.

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3:22:28 Now I just gotta write the book. Jesus was a badass outlaw. The best podcast in the universe! Mopo. Dvorak.org slash N-A Holy crap, what a great show!