A massive NATO summit triggers missile deployments in the Netherlands while the White House navigates a high-stakes constitutional standoff over the Alien Enemies Act.
The Hague prepares for a massive NATO summit as security forces install Patriot and Stinger missile batteries across the Dutch coastline. This high-stakes gathering coincides with the European Union announcing a federal carbon tax for 2027, a move that will directly levy natural gas and fuel usage across member states. Adam Curry reports from Amsterdam on the rising 'flying shame' cultural movement and the growing disconnect between the European media elite and the American electorate.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan continues a domestic crackdown in Turkey, overseeing the incarceration of mayors and students following recent demonstrations. In the United States, the Trump administration faces a judicial power grab as Judge James Boasberg issues a criminal contempt ruling over the deportation of Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Meanwhile, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick signals an end to semiconductor tariff exemptions, and China retaliates by halting all major Boeing aircraft orders. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has placed senior advisor Dan Caldwell on leave following a leak investigation into U.S. strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen.
Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez describe the 'overview effect' following a Blue Origin suborbital flight that critics noted was heavy on Baphomet and Monarch butterfly symbolism. Former Representative Kurt Weldon joins Tucker Carlson to demand a new 9/11 investigation, citing FDNY Battalion Chief Oriel Palmer’s radio logs from the 78th floor of the South Tower. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry also explore the placebo biology of ketamine and the historical banishment of the Southwick family.
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CHAPTER 01 / 62Discussion
Elian Gonzalez, 2020 Election Comparison
Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program by recalling the 1999-2000 Elian Gonzalez international custody case. They compare the media coverage and public outcry of that era to current political events. The hosts debate whether the event occurred during the Clinton or Obama administrations before settling on the late 1990s.
00:00 Turn the plane around! Behind the trade lines and broadcasting live parallel to runway 24 at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we want to bring back Elian Gonzalez from Costa Rica! I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Who? Is that the guy in El Salvador?!
00:36 Remember Elion Gonzalez? Oh, the kid! The little kid where they put a big gun in his face and took him out of the country. This is I think during Clinton or whenever it was Obama. It was Obama. Yeah it was Obama. And so they rousted this kid and shoved... They just took him out of the country and sent to Cuba. That was great. Nobody made a fuss about that. No there's a little bit of a fuss Yeah, but not like the fuss we're getting over this guy. It was hilarious that was so cool If I recall we had quite the field day with that. But Elena Gonzalez? Yes!
01:15 Yeah, of course we did. Poor kid! When was that? Hold on a second... Nobody made a fuss about that kid and they took him out of the country without it without hearing it. Let me see hold on a second he wasn't even a hairdresser. He was a gay hairdresser. Gonzales uh We talked abou- yeah wait 2020 no 2016 Yeah I'd be dude it was It was at the end of Obama let me see Uh so we talked about it then but Maybe it was during... I don't know, it was during Clinton. Okay! Yeah, I think it was during Clinton. Holy crap! Well that's before the show. Doesn't count? Oh well. Anyway, I'm here in the Netherlands John. In Gielination. Please tell like you're next door. I know, technology is amazing and uh..I have to tell you even though getting a little too old for this going until one in the morning on jet lag
CHAPTER 02 / 62Discussion
European Media, Elon Musk, Trump Support
Adam Curry reports from Amsterdam, Netherlands, describing a pervasive anti-Elon Musk sentiment among Europeans. He recounts attending an 80th birthday party for a media executive where guests expressed bewilderment over American support for Donald Trump. Curry explains how he used topics like illegal immigration and gender ideology to bridge the cultural gap with the Dutch media elite.
02:18 I'm very happy i came. We needed this for the show Why? Because, I got a first-hand boots on... Our Dutch producers have not or any of our EU producers for that matter have not really been doing good job at telling us what's going on here Well that is not much of a surprise First of all If you drive a Tesla in Europe, you are the biggest A-hole in the universe. People have bought other cars and parked their Tesla in the garage They do not drive Teslas And why might this be? Elon Musk What's Elon Musk got to do with Europe? Is he going through the books over there or is he over there That's my point! They hate him just because... You're supposed to hate him People here Well first of all it's very grey and depressing
03:11 That is not a big surprise and that never helps. It can't be, it's April! April showers May flowers come on No no remember it always rains on Queen's Day or Kings Day so its up until April 30th...no! No it's grey and depressing People hate Elon Musk Why? I'm telling you, well Does the media have them under such control over there Yes yes yes yes and yes again Wow. And I was in the question is why does the media get control to such an extreme that they care about Elon Musk as a point of interest? That's the sense, that's the baffling part. But I went to it here for two reasons. Of course, you see my daughter will see her tomorrow but I came for my buddy Lexus 80th birthday he was the guy who first hired me at Radio Veronica when I was 19 years old we've remained friends
04:07 And he decided to do a big party, 200 guests handpicked only special people Casablanca themed. And it was everybody from Dutch radio television and music anybody who is anybody was here and holy moly they are completely mind controlled But with it, with a little bit of a twist also. A little bit of a twist but has to be somewhat different no No, so everybody's like hey Adam how you doing? Yeah I'm doing great How are you look good okay right after that Hey uh You live in Texas yeah Are you a Trump supporter? The Trump supporter Everyone had the same question Not did you vote for Trump? Are you a Trump supporter
05:05 I said, well i support any president as far as I can. But yeah, I voted for him and then you see their faces go huh? You know it's like the switch is flipped but isn't he a racist what John, I'm not kidding. And people just like they couldn't compute they couldn't navigate me the nice 19 year old kid they saw come in and who they knew for 40 years with someone who actually supports his president and might have voted for Trump! Do you see the brain freeze occur?
05:45 And the, yeah but what is he doing? We don't understand what he's doing. Oh okay calm down, calm down and so after two or three of these conversations I figured out the switch and I figured out was going on So let me just tell you why America voted for him But wait it wasn't a landslide You can just see the media, and these people are in media so they're in the milieu. So that's all they're a part of and this is what was so great about this This is not Taxi Eric who drives me around taxi Eric's like we need a statue of Trump on damn square Okay, Eric way we understand that you get it but these people in the milieu They do not understand there. They're completely engulfed in it And so then I would say well
06:38 You know, we have like 20 million people who came in illegally. Say 20 million? Yeah that's probably about the right estimate and a million of those are criminals so we're getting those out and everybody seems to be happy the cities everyone is happy with it okay I said this gender ideology, you know we have man woman no boys and girls sports and none of this DEI. And they go oh yeah yeah and that would flip the switch! And they'd say I wish we had someone who did that here...and there it was because they are so completely
07:20 inundated, suppressed told to shut up about immigration about DEI gender ideology about climate change still funny enough and until you explain to them what the big things were and they can all of sudden identify then they go oh! Then they get this kind of look of bewilderment And then usually they'll say, well you know but now we have to get a big military because America's going to desert us and Russia is going to take over. At that point I gave up. Really? It was sad it was sad to see and I think people kind of avoided me at certain times during the evening. Oh I bet they did! That guy is no good he's crazy
CHAPTER 03 / 62Discussion
Geert Wilders, Asylum Policy, Dutch Farmers
The discussion shifts to Dutch politician Geert Wilders and the failure of his administration to halt new asylum seeker distribution laws. Local residents in the Netherlands are reportedly protesting the spread of asylum centers into small villages. Additionally, Dutch farmers continue to face pressure from nitrogen emission regulations, leading to the sale of dairy herds.
08:15 And then, you know, then the Elon Musk stuff would come up. Like what are you talking about? What has he done here? Well, you know, he's part of Trump! He is a Trump supporter and meanwhile here in the Netherlands they have Geert Wilders this was the guy right? Oh yes, he is our Dutch Trump and nothing is happening. They now...a law went into effect Which what is the name of it? Where they have to spread out the asylum seekers throughout the country because it was only you know a couple of small villages obviously down way down south or way out east who got all these asylum seekers So they had these Asylum seeker centers and now there's spread out all over the country and people are losing their ever-loving minds They're burning down city halls, you know little
09:10 in their little towns, they're throwing eggs at the city council and no one knows what to do. Farmers selling their big beautiful dairy cows at auction because, whoop sorry nitrogen I got too many points on my cows everything that Heerdvelders was supposed to stop has not been stopped it's a huge disappointment really bizarre It sounds very dystopian. Well, I'm sure that this is happening in every country in Europe here... Look how far they went in Germany with all the hate speech stuff and England where they throw somebody in jail for a tweet! A mom! So of course you know oh Adams he's a believer now yo he's a Jesus freak
10:03 So one or two came up to me and say you're lucky didn't get locked up Well, listen to this one or two came up to me people hadn't I saw oh, thank you for being so bold It was nice to hear that. What do you mean? well we have to be kind of quiet here about our Christian faith because Christians are now immediately associated with Israel and therefore your genocidal Yeah That's the silence I had Really yep who comes up with these schemes Satan? Who else could be joining us? Thank you, Dana Carvey. Yeah! It's messed up. Well the fact that these people are all hook line and sinkered and you're dealing with an elite group because that party was a bunch of elitists let's face it But they are the media so this is what being perpetrated And they're the media elite which is worse
CHAPTER 04 / 62Discussion
PFAS Contamination, Backyard Chicken Eggs
Dutch authorities have issued warnings to citizens regarding the consumption of eggs from backyard chickens. The warning cites high levels of PFAS contamination in the soil and water affecting local poultry. The hosts lament the loss of access to healthy, home-grown food sources due to industrial chemical runoff.
11:06 And they're all in, hook line and sinker. Well no not exactly because when you tell them the main points and it's the exact same things that are going through here... Yeah but superficially at least yeah because yeah you have to talk them down but how long does that how long do you think that works for? Oh when I was gone there were like oh my god can't believe what's wrong with that guy! You might as well wear a swastika Yeah, he might as well wear a swastika. And then the next big thing here... Uh okay everybody attention! Attention everybody- where am I? Oh. Attention attention everybody do not eat any backyard chickens or eggs don't eat the chickens or eggs they are contaminated with PFAS Remember PFAS? Yeah That nonsense What's it got to do with chickens You can't eat the chickens
12:04 You can't eat your own chickens eggs because they're probably contaminated with PFAS. Oh, PFAS oh yeah I heard about that...I am so sad. I'm so sad! There's nothing more healthy than a backyard egg No not what is contaminated and seething with PFAS whatever that is Wow Yeah wow was-and then uh um Guy I knew uh, I think you should take another trip or in the way But too bad you can't make a side trip to England to see what a mess that they won't let me in. I'm sure I want A list are you kidding? Me? No, there's that guy he hurts people's feelings
CHAPTER 05 / 62Discussion
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkish Political Prisoners
A report from a Turkish source reveals that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has overseen the incarceration of three mayors and 180 students following demonstrations. The segment highlights the lack of Western media coverage regarding Turkish political suppression compared to other world leaders. The source claims anyone opposing the regime faces immediate arrest.
12:45 Arrested him, roused him. So speaking of there was a very nice Turkish lady married to a guy he's like a bank guy or something speaking of elite and this is his new wife and so she doesn't speak Dutch a little bit of Dutch as they're leaving you know and they're waiting for the car I'm talking to her and said what's going on with Erdogan? She says oh it's crazy did you know John that there are three mayors who have been incarcerated Not one, three. No I only know about the one that's the only thing we've been told. Yeah 180 teenage students who were demonstrating incarcerated not arrested! We did know that. They're in jail still and she said anybody who goes against Erdogan boom you're arrested you're done That's not really being played up the way evil dictator Putin is
CHAPTER 06 / 62Discussion
NATO Summit, The Hague, Security Measures
The Hague is preparing for a major NATO summit that will result in the closure of two major highways and the Madurodam miniature park for several months. Security measures include the installation of Patriot and Stinger missile batteries in the coastal dunes. The hosts criticize the 100 million euro cost and the disruption to local businesses and tourism.
13:46 Which, by the way they completely buy into. Oh no... Yeah we got a lot of defenses going here because you know when you guys pull out... Any minute now! And then there's the big NATO splash. The splash? You remember the NATO splash which Mark Ritzel was telling us about? The NATO Splash Donald come to the NATO Hague We make a big splash Well this is making people happy So they're going to shut down two major highways How do you keep, did you write take notes? Of course I did. Hey, I got a deductive lot of material here. You've already overflowed the memory banks but it's important so this is big NATO summit meeting in The Hague um so they're going to be shutting down all your two big highways for
14:37 I think two months. So you won't even be able to get the Scheveningen, which is one of the main piers on the coast so no beach for you You can go to miniature town Madurodam your favorite that's not going to happen. Madurodam miniature towns my favorite! They're closing that for four months Why? Because of the big splash! So retail... Of course these are the busiest months for them summer months nope All of that is screwed. They're putting Patriot and Stinger missile installations into the dunes? You know, because you never know what might happen someone might try to get those NATO guys it's gonna cost about a hundred million euros Wait so there what you're telling me is that because Trump's going to show up at a meeting at NATO and all the NATO guys are gonna get together Who said Trump's going I don't even think Trump will show
15:37 Why would he? I don't think he should. No, why wouldn't he? But I wouldn't recommend against it this is crazy yeah so the Dutch... and then So their army..so what they're doing is there they're fortifying to spending all this 100 million dollars to fortify the area in and around the meeting spot, uh...to prevent Putin from attacking. Yes! Yes of course. And destroying NATO on the spot because there's this opportunity That's it that's it you're right. In the process they are going to shut down all the businesses all the highways all the fun all that miniature land and everything in between Yeah yeah that's right Really? Yeah But wait What idiots?! But wait there is more
CHAPTER 07 / 62Discussion
European Union, Carbon Tax, Fuel Levies
The European Union is set to implement a federal carbon tax starting in 2027, targeting gasoline, diesel, and natural gas usage. Current projections suggest CO2 permits could cost between 100 and 200 euros per ton, adding hundreds of euros to annual household expenses. This move marks a shift toward direct federal taxation from Brussels.
16:21 What were the two things that, well there are two things that were promised definitely would happen with the formation of the European Union which was you won't need a passport to get between all the countries in in the European Union. We'll have the same money don't worry it's all gonna be great got the same money and we'll never ever have a European Army oops! We know that's broken what was the other thing we'd never ever have in the European Union? I don't know. A federal tax from Brussels? Oh, the federal tax... Oh! Well wouldn't you know it? 2027 everybody will now in addition to your local country taxes will have a EU tax and this tax will be based on oh what do you think it could be whatever is not good your carbon footprint
17:18 No. Yes, based on the amount of gasoline you use in your car... Oh that means the people they have the great advantage in a 10-minute city? Yeah well that would be next based upon gasoline or diesel you put in your car or some they still use liquid petroleum gas sometimes here I don't think that much anymore and any natural gas if you are still one of those people who has God forbid natural gas. If you have a gas oven or a gas stove, well, you're going to get dinged." And I didn't know this but they've already published the EU carbon permits price and this kind of snuck in where I guess they approved a certain market so currently
18:07 One ton of CO2 will cost you 67 euros, but they say by the time the tax goes in it could be between 100 and 200 euros a ton. Which means most people would wind up paying between 300 and 500 euros a year extra just for the carbon tax And that's always the beginning So I don't blame these people for being in a bad mood. Yeah, they'd be... anyway yeah. Bad moods. It's Musk's fault by the way. Yeah! Musk the guy who actually is trying to help you get away from your carbon tax oh no so yeah it was uh bizarre just bizarre
CHAPTER 08 / 62Discussion
Flying Shame, Carbon Footprints, Travel Trends
The concept of "Fliegschamte" or "flying shame" is gaining traction in Europe, where individuals are socially pressured to feel guilty about their carbon footprint from air travel. Adam Curry notes the hypocrisy of climate activists like Leonardo DiCaprio using private jets while the public is shamed for commercial flights. The term is becoming a significant cultural marker in the Netherlands.
18:51 Good to see everybody though. I was the one smiling hey, buddy. I'm from Texas y'all That was the clincher Definitely be the clincher from Texas y'all from Texas so yeah So that was uh that was the big? That was my big travel report Oh 11 other thing yes forgot as a part of the climate change I had lunch with Tiffany my sister today and And she's saying, you know yeah because she and her husband they like to travel so look you know it's easy if... She works at Schiphol. So she has all kinds of discounts and as she can move around easily and so they'll go to Spain or Italy for a couple of days you know whatever because she runs a couple of these stores here so she did pretty intense job. So she gets to take time off and she says but you know we don't have any what was the term? Fliegschamte
19:47 Fliegsham, flying shame is a term here. Do you have flying shame? Flying shame yes. Does that got something to do with your carbon footprint? You bet! The more you fly the dirtier you are. You should be shamed of flying they call it flying shame Wow Yeah, good show title. But it's okay for DiCaprio and the others with their private jets to be flying constantly all over the place for these climate summits Don't don't try and bring any logic into the equation that's really not gonna help at all apparently not In other news they didn't blow up
CHAPTER 09 / 62Discussion
Blue Origin, Katy Perry, All-Female Space Crew
Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin recently launched its first all-female crew, including Katy Perry, Gayle King, and Lauren Sanchez, on an 11-minute suborbital flight. The media coverage focused on the "space sisterhood" and the emotional impact of the journey. Amanda Nguyen became the first Vietnamese woman in space during the mission.
20:35 No, I do have the Katy Perry commentary though which is kind of a blow up. Well i have a couple of things that want to mention but let's uh... Let's do your commentary Katy Perry, this is what happens after you take a 12-minute flight into space I don't know even they don't get into space really They just kind of shoot up into the air. What to I don't know what? What was the altitude they finally achieved 80 thousand feet maybe I don't know Okay, I hope they can see the unity that we modeled and Replicate that and understand that we weren't just taking up space. We were making space for the future and For me like you said this wasn't a ride Who was in a destination? It was a journey And it was a supernatural one
21:29 And my journey has always been about love and belonging, and I think that we have all felt That sometimes we weren't worthy or we didn't belong in certain ways, no matter all the accolades. No matter all the studying. No matter anything and I think today we all said it like we belong here this is where we belong and we feel very sure of that so um...I think that you'll never know the amount of love that you have inside of you to give and to receive until the day you launch. Because your leaving all the love behind, and your surrendering
22:13 And you're hoping that you get another chance to love them again. So when you come back down, You're like oh I get another chance and I'm gonna do it. Oh my god now im crying okay That's your brain on drugs children. Uh...You know im gonna go That is exactly right. Your brain on drugs. I gotta go a little deeper on this one because this was of course all about women Women being teams, women doing their thing. Women being women, women being feminine, women just the best in the world making space taking space here's an NBC report. Blasting off for 11 unforgettable minutes The first all-female space crew in more than 60 years One two three Take up Space!
23:05 Including pop star Katy Perry and journalist Gayle King along with Lauren Sanchez, the fiance of Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos. The historic six marveling at the moon and the earth. And you look at it like we're all in this together. While floating for four minutes, Katy Perry weightless with a daisy in hand her daughter's namesake New Shepard's booster rocket landing first. This reusable booster that took them up now safely back on the ground, the massive rocket ready for its next mission amid the space tourism boom. Then in front of a star studded crowd, the astronauts all smiles back on Earth. It is about making space for future women and taking up space and belonging
23:55 Amanda Nguyen emotional after becoming the first Vietnamese woman in space. She's a survivor of sexual assault carrying aboard for painful reminder and it's the hospital man. For anyone who's ever had to struggle through life circumstances that weren't their choice, I want you to know that you will make it through. And those magical moments on board the start of a shared space sisterhood celebrated amongst the stars All right so that was the main theme and it was... Oh man this is the worst Well this is where it got bizarre because they had the blue origin debrief now mind you
CHAPTER 10 / 62Discussion
Lauren Sanchez, Space Flight, Overview Effect
Lauren Sanchez describes her experience with the "overview effect" after returning from her Blue Origin flight. She characterizes the darkness of space as "death" and emphasizes the need to protect Earth as the only viable planet. The hosts critique her comments as a poor sales pitch for the burgeoning space tourism industry.
24:39 They're just selling tickets to go on this 11-minute roller coaster ride because they said, oh could everybody in the audience who is an astronaut stand up? That's like a hundred people. You know they only publicize this one but it goes up all the time rich people going up It's like it's like an expensive amusement park ride so this is all about women. It's about the women everything is woman We are woman Women women women at Blue Origin team blue women women here feel FEMA host woman I don't know if that would ever get old if I were you guys to hear that. I am an astronaut and then Unbelievable thing you guys can now say that you are We are gonna hear from all of you guys in a second, but there are over 10,000 employees here at Blue Origin There are so many people That have put their heart and soul And their brains into this operation to make it possible to do what you guys did today How many times are gonna say you guys to this group of women?
25:39 You guys, you guys what happened to that not being a thing? Yeah used to be condemned for saying that. You guys, you guys it should at least gal's. That was worse and then so first up is Sanchez and I don't know if she must have not had a chat with Jeff about space. It's about getting out there and exploring new worlds and new civilizations, going to places and learning about where we possibly could move too. Am I right? To grab a few rocks! Isn't that kind of the idea of privatized spaceflight? It is to go out and be excited about maybe Mars or returning to the Moon
26:29 Well Sanchez didn't get the memo. Thank you so much Audrey there's so many things that I just thought about as i heard you speaking and uh, I want to get into it with all of you guys Lauren congratulations. Guys! I'm gonna start with you in researching this entire process I heard a lot about the overview effect and it was something that I didn't know anything about but what The overview effects. Okay, so remember it's supposed to be about going to new places commercial space travel the future the world this universe is our oyster what I have learned that you now will be able to share or to experience is because when people that go up to space and see earth from space they come back and their perception of Earth is different we have one planet cuz our
27:20 Because out there, it's dark. It is... William Shatner even said this when he went to space and now I understand what he was talking about. It's like death! And um... Baby, baby. We're supposed to want people wanna go out don't tell them it's death out there No it just made me wanna... Yeah I Just come back with an open heart and It really opened me wide open and hopefully I can bring that to other people and also just protect this planet we're on. I mean, there's... This is the only one we've got so um... I'm completely and utterly humbled by this experience uh wow! And beyond grateful Worst endorsement ever It's death out there That's a great... You know what? I'm gonna give you a borderline clip of the day for that Well i'll take a border line Borderline
28:20 Because what she's... this is a negative sales pitch. It's like, we're all doomed! This is the only planet- And you don't really understand how doomed we are until you take this horrible trip? It's death I tell ya Now let's just talk about symbolism So this rocket is called The New Shepherd Who was The Old Shepard? The Good Shepard Jesus Okay so this is The New Shepard Fine Katy Perry's uniform, a Baphomet insignia on her uniform. There was? Yes! She holds up a monarch butterfly inside the castle... She does?! Yes and by the way The Rockets of Dildo we've all seen that. We know The Rockets of Dildo that's been long since established And so I was
The hosts analyze the occult symbolism allegedly present in Katy Perry's Blue Origin flight, including Baphomet insignias on uniforms and the use of Monarch butterflies. They discuss a specific audio clip where Perry appears to say "Oh my goddess" while viewing the moon. The segment explores theories regarding Perry's past as a gospel singer and her transition to mainstream pop stardom.
27:20 Because out there, it's dark. It is... William Shatner even said this when he went to space and now I understand what he was talking about. It's like death! And um... Baby, baby. We're supposed to want people wanna go out don't tell them it's death out there No it just made me wanna... Yeah I Just come back with an open heart and It really opened me wide open and hopefully I can bring that to other people and also just protect this planet we're on. I mean, there's... This is the only one we've got so um... I'm completely and utterly humbled by this experience uh wow! And beyond grateful Worst endorsement ever It's death out there That's a great... You know what? I'm gonna give you a borderline clip of the day for that Well i'll take a border line Borderline
28:20 Because what she's... this is a negative sales pitch. It's like, we're all doomed! This is the only planet- And you don't really understand how doomed we are until you take this horrible trip? It's death I tell ya Now let's just talk about symbolism So this rocket is called The New Shepherd Who was The Old Shepard? The Good Shepard Jesus Okay so this is The New Shepard Fine Katy Perry's uniform, a Baphomet insignia on her uniform. There was? Yes! She holds up a monarch butterfly inside the castle... She does?! Yes and by the way The Rockets of Dildo we've all seen that. We know The Rockets of Dildo that's been long since established And so I was
29:13 I didn't catch it live. In fact, they had a dildo rocket on the back of a lot of these jerseys that they were wearing. Well why not? So it was kind of odd because I recall when Bezos went up for the first time they had in-capsule live footage and they didn't have that this time you only had audio and so by the time they got there maybe that was just what do they call it...a glitch? So you only had audio And then by the time they got back down, an hour or so later they had some in-capsule video of them floating around Katy Perry with her Monarch butterfly. But they changed the audio
29:58 of I think, pretty sure it's Katy Perry what she was screeching about when she was up in space. So this may be hard for you to hear. I don't know if the trolls will be able to hear but and i'm not even going to tell you what she says because I don't want to put into your mind but uh... She'll say it twice. Oh, look at the moon! You guys! Look at the moon! Oh my godness! Now what did you hear? Oh my goddess?! Yes, of course! Of course to the evil goddess. Well that's interesting... And that has been cut out of the video they've published
30:41 You only hear an oh my goodness somewhere. Play it again. Okay... Oh, the moon! You guys I have to tell you look at the moon! Look! Oh my godness! Now if you play backwards she says hail Satan but but i'm telling you I hear anything you play backwards says that so uh But this this is creepy and you know she used to be a gospel singer She completely, and there's some interview of her out there saying I was a gospel singer and I loved the church. You know I had a friend of mine used to work in her managerial crew or something for Katy Perry. And he told me that
31:30 She was she had told him that she would sell herself to any. She was just anything to be famous She would give up anything well, and she made a big fuss about this Well, so she's obviously this is what happened yes This I don't think it said even a question which is why I was joking about her You know being a Satanist mm-hmm no It's not a joke It's not a joke. And then add in the MKUltra Monarch butterfly and all of this symbolism... And seriously, if you look at her uniform Baphomet it-it's getting a little thick! It's too much! We're catching on to you guys Back off lady back off Exactly back off a little bit Even Baphomet would have her back off The devil always overplays his hand That's it, that's true Oh yeah Yeah
CHAPTER 12 / 62Discussion
Tucker Carlson, Kurt Weldon, 9/11 Investigation
Former Representative Kurt Weldon appeared on Tucker Carlson's program to call for a new investigation into the September 11 attacks. Weldon argues that 9/11 remains the biggest scandal in American history and suggests that relevant information is still being suppressed. He advocates for architects and engineers to testify under oath regarding the collapse of the buildings.
32:22 Well, we can go lots of places from here. I think we've handled that Did you see Tucker by any chance? I did not see Tucker but I know he talked to a couple of interesting people lately Do you have some clips yes should be listening yeah, I do He talked to Kurt Weldon who was it was actually uh...I think it was a pretty powerful Republican representative around 9-11 Yes And the whole episode is completely worth listening to. So I just pulled a couple of clips, it's just the flavor, it's just the taste of what it is but it's very interesting that he at this point when everyone so focused on JFK RFK MLK Epstein
33:11 He's saying, no! No. We've got to open up the true files on 9-11 and he just went all off on it Do I think 9-11 is going to be the biggest scandal in our lifetime? Yes, it will be the biggest scandal in history of America because it occurred on US soil and because it was so recent that we have relevant information still available. We have recorded information, we have personal information once people realize they can talk and not be afraid of being killed or not being afraid of being ostracized. And you know what gets me is reporters who call people conspiracy theorists, well that's all the agency does! They're the ones who create the conspiracies! I'm aware... I mean cut me a break! They have whole courses for their agents on how to make people look like they're conspiracy theorists! ...and the propaganda operations designed to discredit
34:10 Exactly. Right? And all we want is the truth, of course. So Trump appoint people of impeccable integrity let them study the facts I will testify under oath everything i know about intelligence Let these 3 000 architects who are risking their careers making nothing let them testify under oath so they really just he started a big ruckus after this happened after the 9 11 report came out even before that and uh so they you know they really took this guy down it's got a whole story about that And he goes into who made money off of this, and of course there was the Iraq invasion etc. But in these clips he focuses on what can we prove?
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Firefighters, Building 7, Explosion Reports
The discussion continues regarding 9/11, focusing on reports from FDNY firefighters who claimed to hear explosions before the towers collapsed. The hosts discuss the controversial collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 and the BBC's premature reporting of its fall. They question why Tucker Carlson appeared surprised by these long-standing claims during his interview with Weldon.
34:53 I mean, I think Tucker is even surprised. Has he not seen any of the Alex Jones four-hour long movies? Come on! Everyone my age has seen these There has been this subtle pressure to the firefighters and the officers not to talk for obvious reasons You know what this involves politically And look what happened to the chief of LA. The female chief of LA comes out and says that the resources were taken away from her for the forest fires, and what does the mayor do? She fires her! That was just a few weeks ago! The firefighters are always a scapegoat! That's why Tucker I'm done with this! If it was the last thing I'd do- Firefighters are not going to be taken for granted anymore We're gonna rise up we're gonna shake the country to its roots
35:37 Firefighters are not second-class citizens. Well, they certainly shouldn't be but if they talk though They'll get sidelined don't be called crazies even though they heard explosions They can't be they can't be allowed to say that they heard explosion. Yeah absolutely on tape What? We have people coming out of the buildings. I know, right? Hold on a second... I mean the number of people that said they heard explosions right after the event is numerous Forget Alex Jones It was on NBC They were all on television saying they heard explosions We have film footage And Tucker didn't know This is bullcrap What, that Tucker didn't know
36:17 There's something fishy about Tucker being aghast at this. Everybody heard these guys talking about explosions whether they believed it or not. You know, Tucker is the first to say and I think he even says in the last clip that he's embarrassed that he was all-in He told people who said building 7 you know was imploded... he called them nut jobs. Having seen these people last night reminded me When you're in that milieu, he was at CNN at the time. What do you think he was supposed to believe? He heard it from insiders, from sources say, from his colleagues, from the top brass!
36:59 Why would he question it? I'm gonna give him a half pass. ...that heard explosions, we have film footage of people that talked to Fox News that was taken off the air and then now it was brought back by X That's all available! That's why you need a commission to go back and look at all the lies Wait so there are... pardon my ignorance but there are people on tape saying they heard explosions Yes absolutely 100% There's gambling going on there? I can't believe it! Hold on a second. You... I have to back you off on this idea that, okay he was working for CNN at the time but since then
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Oriel Palmer, FDNY, Floor of Impact
Battalion Chief Oriel Palmer's actions on September 11 are highlighted, specifically his ascent to the 78th floor of the South Tower. Radio recordings confirm Palmer reached the floor of impact and reported two manageable fires just moments before the building collapsed. The hosts use this account to question the official narrative of the structural failures.
37:37 Where has he been? That he's shocked. This interview was like within the last week, so until within the last week... Yeah He still hasn't heard about somebody talking about the explosions You know remember this is the guy who the NSA spied on him when he was trying to go to Russia I think he was up pre-op I'm just still gonna give him a quarter pass now that he was you know being spied on by NSA that he Was going to Russia they released his text messages So he may just not even have he was looking at JFK, RFK MLK Epstein maybe it just wasn't top of mind. Here's the last clip. They're the only high-rise buildings in the world that have ever come down from an airplane hitting them and those buildings I read the report from the architect who designed them they were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building and standing tall. And especially Building 7 which had no plane hit it
38:29 Right. No plane hit it and the building just, you can see it when you watch it on TV It just implodes straight down and what really got me again was Oriel Palmer that battalion chief arising on the... Tell us who he was? What is...? Okay, Oriel Palmer was one of the most inspirational Battalion Chief's in New York FDNY. FDNY who immediately very good shape had a family couple of... What was that by the way? FDNY! What does that? That was an odd little thing to throw in there. It's like a code. Yeah, yeah something going on there. Real Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York. FDNY. FDNY who immediately very good shape had a family couple of kids went into building as soon as they got on the scene took the elevator up to the 40th floor
39:17 got off the elevator and you can hear him on the comms system say, I'm here 40th floor we're going to start walking up the stairwell. Every five floors he radios back to communicate that i'm on the 50th floor everything's okay? We're on floor 60 everything's okay He's going up so many floors he gives a report. He reaches the 78th floor The Floor of Impact. He comes out of the stair tower And as clear as you listening to me here, and I know I get passionate and I apologize to your listeners for that. He says we're on floor 78 the floor of impact We've got two fires and we can handle them one minute later the whole building collapses That's not normal that is not acceptable That is not what happened? And this is on tape? It's on tape!
40:06 Yeah, the whole interview is good. I mean he doesn't really... Did they bring up the point about my favorite one which is on building 7 where they had the guy on mic on one of those networks saying pull it? The BBC! It was the BBC! It was a BBC pull-it and they dropped the building. No wait no wait first the BBC is saying Building 7 has collapsed, but it was 20 minutes before it collapsed. You see the BBC person with building seven in the background then they have now I don't know where that tape came from that one But I've heard it to pull it pull it and Yeah what they're gonna pull it yeah? It's a little fuzzy on it too. It was after all 24 years ago, but yeah That would that's what we all should be moaning about forget the Epstein files
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Bill Gates, Microsoft Interns, Australia Relocation
A new book titled "Billionaire Nerd Savior King" alleges that Microsoft management had to keep young interns away from Bill Gates due to his behavior. John Dvorak shares folklore from Microsoft's early days, claiming women were relocated to the Australian office after involvements with Gates. The segment touches on Gates's past relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his divorce from Melinda French Gates.
40:56 No. Sorry! Did you hear that there's a book coming out about Bill Gates? I can imagine... Yeah, the book... let me see what is it... I think The Economist reported on this today and that they had to hide the young interns from Bill Gates Well, that's not news to the No Agenda show listeners. But in Redmond? Are they talking about his normal... This is Bill's normal activities? They used to be a... I'll give you our story. Let me read the headline first so we can set this up there's new book coming out called Billionaire Nerd Savior King Bill Gates and His Quest To Shape Our World and so
41:47 Headline is Bill Gates infidelity in quotes, so Microsoft management keep young interns away from the tech mogul. Uh-huh? The guy who was just doing business just trying to get a deal done with that Jeffrey Epstein nothing more just some business mm-hmm So here comes John story everybody well Sophie for bill was married at Melinda Who's now having issues with her psychology I don't know what it does I sent you a link He used to go out, he used to take and bed as many of the cuties as he could at the company. And of course the word was he liked small petite blondes was his real goal. Because it would cause a stir in the executive suites they would give these, because the girls would be mad because they'd never see Bill again and it was not a...
42:43 He was not a good follow-up guy, is what you're saying? Not a follow up guy. And so they start to make a fuss and they ship the girls to Australia! Microsoft Australia with a lucrative job. Good day mate! Now this is all Microsoft folklore and I'm pretty sure it's true because I heard it from more than one person Some of the new girls would come in and this word got around. And so they start to wear t-shirts that said, hey Bill pick me because they wanted to go to Australia! Now I'd like to have one of these which there's gotta be some woman out there who actually was shipped to Australia at a great time. What we want is one of those T shirts
43:36 That's the collectible. Tell me we aren't the best podcast in the universe, where else will you get a boots on the ground story like that? That one by the way I've heard Bill Gates stories from you but i do not remember the hey bill pick-me t-shirts Yeah, I built Big B. I went on a trip to Australia. The older you get the more good stories come out. I'm kind of digging this. Yeah! I got a million of them as we get old. You know there's stories like oh, I woke up today thinking about... First of all, first of all, you woke up it's a good day everybody. Believe me is a huge plus. It's a good day
CHAPTER 16 / 62Discussion
Lou Christie, Two Faces Have I, Falsetto Music
John Dvorak discusses an earworm involving the song "Two Faces Have I," which he initially attributed to Frankie Valli but was actually recorded by Lou Christie. The hosts discuss the era of falsetto singers in the 1960s and the difficulty of maintaining that vocal style. This leads to a brief discussion on the Bee Gees and the evolution of pop vocals.
44:19 I got a tune in my head, you know. You get old to a little earworm Aditi you got a little and where this came from is beyond me But it when I can't still until about I took about two or three hours to get rid of it It was hearing Frankie Valley singing Two Faces Have Eye What song is that? The Four Seasons song. I don't know that. Two faces have eye, one to laugh and one to cry Oh! And...I haven't heard that song for 30 years and now I'm hearing it thinking what did they do once you get the hang of listening or hearing that song in your head You get all the lyrics and pretty soon I had the whole song down Wow In falsetto
45:06 But what's interesting is that I know a lot of Frankie Valli songs. I can't remember, no... Lou Christy? Sure it's not Lou Christy? Two Faces Have Eye? One To Laugh And One to Cry? Oh um... Well let's do it quick. Did this take- Well here's uh... Here's the- I don't want the world to know That sounds like Frankie Valli but thats actually Lou Christy! I dont want my heart to show Two faces have eyes... Well, we need a remake! That's the song. That's the song and I because of the voice I have to say... Yeah, I'll give you pass yeah he would think it's Frankie Valli for sure
45:55 Yeah, that's what I was hearing. I was hearing the song and didn't hear it by Frankie Valli but that's what...I didn't realize that Lou Christie sang that because that is a Frankie Valli song if ever there was Now did you take a gummy last night before you went to bed? No, I did not! I haven't had a gummy for years Oh how we miss those days John and his gummies That's a great song by the way Lou Christie Wow, I like the Alvin and the Chipmunks in the background. That's great! That was the era of the falsetto Yes Later brought back by The Bee Gees In my day Yeah but that-that was the end of it Oh yeah it had to end It had to end
CHAPTER 17 / 62Discussion
Ketamine Studies, Placebo Effect, NPR Report
An NPR report on a Stanford University study reveals that ketamine's effectiveness in treating depression may be largely due to the placebo effect. Researchers found that patients who received a placebo during surgery reported similar improvements to those who received ketamine. The study suggests that the expectation of treatment and the care received from medical staff are significant factors in recovery.
46:54 It's a hard thing to do, it's hard to sing with that voice. Oh wow well as far I'm concerned we're done this is a great show! We've nailed it! What more do you need to talk about? Since were talking about drugs... I have a couple ketamine clips that are, I thought were fascinating. Okay. I didn't know ketamine was still in the news but maybe this is related to Elon? Is that what you're talking about? Well Elon comes to mind obviously and others we know personally Yeah Kevin Rose he's not bashful about it We can say it He does an old show about it It's always disturbing to me when somebody is bragging about a drug
47:39 But this is an interesting, they're doing a bunch of studies on giving unknowingly giving like well I guess they signed off on something but people had a traumatic operation that was of some sort. They would give them ketamine besides the anesthetic. No, it's a pharmaceutical I mean... Yeah that is what it was used for and so they come out of it and then they get they did they had these psychologists that would ask them about how do you feel now? And how did didn't they tell him about the ketamine he got some ketamine but you'd feel better than much there and we went on and on about it
48:16 I think it revealed a couple of interesting facts. Here we go. So in the group that did get ketamine, 60% of those patients felt better the day after surgery and most of those people had stayed better when the researchers checked on them two weeks later. Wow! So for context Gina this is much faster than something like Prozac or Zoloft which could take at least a month to see results and has to be taken every single day. Right. So Boris says they figured... Hold on what is this? Oh wow! Is this new NPR? This is the NPR thing where you have These wannabe podcasters that are on the air and they're chatting it up. Yeah, it sounds like notebook LM Oh wow yeah deep dive. And has to be taken every single day. So Boris says they figured okay ketamine works even under anesthesia so even if the patient doesn't know that they actually got it. So wasn't just Cindy who felt better? Boris told me about a different patient not Cindy he also talked too This was like her you know
49:12 He saw this patient a couple days after her surgery. If she didn't get ketamine, I'm quitting. Like, I don't know like or even... In retrospect it was more like I want to know what we did. This guy is on ketamine! I can tell he's like... That's a good point. It probably is. I don't know, like or even...I mean in retrospect it was more like I want to know what we did so we can do it again and? She was at the placebo group!
49:59 That's good. So statistically, there was no difference between people who got ketamine and people who got placebo. Boris told me the people who got placebo... They got so much better they were indistinguishable from the patients that got ketamine And even Cindy, who did get ketamine and did feel like it helped her depression symptoms, told me she thought about whether it was really the drug that helped her or other parts of this study Wow Like what was it that really made her feel better? Wow Well, they finally do a placebo study and what are they doing on ketamine? I have a couple other drugs that like you to try that on.
CHAPTER 18 / 62Discussion
Medical Care, Placebo Biology, Pharmaceutical Skepticism
The hosts expand on the ketamine study to discuss the broader implications of the placebo effect in modern medicine. They argue that many psychiatric drugs, such as Zoloft and Xanax, may rely on the patient's belief in the medication rather than chemical efficacy. The segment emphasizes that the placebo effect has real biological foundations and should be considered a valid medical tool.
50:35 Let's listen to the second part of this. So you're saying that even though she got ketamine, her feeling better could also have been like related to these other parts of the experience? Like working closely with Boris and like feeling like people are actually listening to her exactly. And she told me that she wondered how far would it take other people who were struggling with something like depression if they just had this same kind of support that she got from Boris and her surgery team? Yeah. Who doesn't respond to love and kindness right now Boris told me that a lot of patients seem to think that if they felt better, they probably got ketamine even if they didn't. Which to him points to this expectation or hope that patients might have about being in a study where they might get some kind of drug at all
51:18 You know, it was a lot of the same reactions like well I you know i can't explain it either. But this is important because you know I got better in some cases they stayed better but that could have just been the placebo effect yeah I mean that's what Boris is saying and what he really emphasized to me is that placebo can sort of be seen as this fake thing thing or a sign of failure in his study, but there's science supporting its effectiveness. It can actually change our brain chemistry but people often see it as this imaginary treatment. Imaginary is like something that doesn't exist. This is a real thing and placebo has real biology behind it and it is one of the most valuable treatments we have in medicine full stop Wow! It's like that expectation
52:02 Well, there you go. That's an interesting twist to the story. That's what I thought. So I guess well, you know NPR is not...I don't think they're in on the springtime Big Pharma buy? There may be true everybody else was The point yes and but the point of that whole discussion it went on there was just a piece of a longer yeah peace And it was that It may be the placebo plus the attention is all it really took to get people back on track and Ketamine doesn't do jack.
52:43 Except for the dissociative stuff that it does do to people get that does have a psychedelic effect So maybe but maybe a lot of these like Zoloft and Xanax, and by the way I've tried as annex. I'm like nothing for me, and I used to be professional drug user It takes with date like they say it's a long time before catches up to know that you're supposed take a xanax And oh man, I feel so loose Maybe a lot of these drugs are just so you can say I've got to take my meds Oh, I just took my meds. That could be! It's very possible. This study sounds like it makes it sound like that is the placebo effect and might as well give you nothing So we had the big pharma buy the springtime buy and the buy was not specifically for any medication
CHAPTER 19 / 62Discussion
RFK Jr, Autism Rates, CDC Data
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ordered new studies into the causes of autism following CDC reports showing rates have risen to 1 in 31 children. Media outlets noted that Kennedy did not explicitly mention vaccines during his recent press conference, focusing instead on environmental factors. The hosts criticize the media for downplaying the historical rise in autism rates since the 1990s.
53:30 But it was to basically say, autism is not caused by vaccines. Everybody had the story! We begin here tonight with a mystery. The mystery of autism, the developmental condition that can affect the ability to communicate and interact socially. We're beginning with it because the CDC is reporting a sharp rise in the number of children who have it more than 3% of 8 year olds And because today the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., called the rate of autism alarming and ordered up studies to determine the cause by September something scientists have been working on for decades. There are clues but no conclusions we're joined now by CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gowder Hey Celine!
54:15 So today, Secretary Kennedy announced that we were going to be as a country investing more money through the NIH to research the causes of autism. He has previously stated that by September we would have some definitive answers. It is extremely unlikely we're going to be getting there and will talk about that more after this story but I think it was very interesting that he did not mention vaccines in the press conference today which was of course what everybody kept saying last week Oh, he says it's because of vaccines. It's because... I don't think he actually said that! He has spoken of mercury and that would come into adjuvants which i dont think is being used much anymore but they all were so convinced oh he says its cause of vaccines
54:59 And then he didn't say it. What? The ASD prevalence rate in eight-year olds is now one in 31, shocking. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr pointed to new evidence that the U.S. Is seeing, In his words a growing epidemic of autism. The epidemic is... In his words notice that It's not from the CDC. Oh no, it was in his words. A growing epidemic of autism The epidemic is real. CDC data shows one out of 31 children has been identified with autism The previous report two years earlier found a rate of 1 in 36 If the epidemic is an artifact... Stop stop I got this clip too
55:46 What's interesting is they drop it from 1 to 36, to 131 and they refuse to mention the one in 100 thousand number. Oh, from 1990? Or 1970 or whatever it was. It was like maybe 1990 actually maybe that recent but the number starts off at one in 100 thousand and then it went to one in 500 I think they actually have those numbers not from the 1 in 100 thousand But all these reports leave that out Yeah well hello They push the following They pushed, well it was 1 in 36 now it's one 31. So it says minor and you went from here to there yeah that's they leave out the big giant numbers That's the trick. That's the trick. Yep. Found a rate of one in thirty six if the epidemic is an artifact a better diagnostic criteria or better
56:42 recognition and why are we not seeing it in older people? Why is this only happening in young people?" The American Academy of Pediatrics has disputed Kennedy's characterization, attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations. "...and I think there is more awareness..." "...hold on stop." "...but clearly there's something..." "...stop so that was a contradiction of what they just reported Kennedy's made the point which they don't emphasize, which is that if it's true that is just a difference in diagnosis then how can we don't see it in the misdiagnosed adults that are living and floating around today to the extent that were seeing it in kids. Because they're all high on placebo effect
Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on CBS to discuss the complexity of identifying autism causes, comparing the research to the decades-long effort to link smoking to lung cancer. She reiterated that the link between vaccines and autism has been "debunked," a term the hosts find suspicious. The segment explores potential environmental triggers being studied, including ultrasounds, obesity, and air pollution.
57:26 So they're all left out of it. And so then she immediately, this woman doing this report, she immediately drops... Is this the doctor? Yeah, Celine Gounder. She drops that little tidbit and skips it and then goes on with taking it further in the wrong direction. She is a misdirection expert. ...contributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations And I think there is more awareness, but clearly there's something else. Teresa Hamlin has worked with teens and adults with autism for more than 40 years at the clinical and research organization The Center for Discovery where she's the CEO These are new cases and there is more and more of them. How do you know it's not just better detection? These are not kids that would have been diagnosed with speech disorders or emotional disorders these are true kids with Autism Spectrum Disorders and you wouldn't miss them
58:23 Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. Notice how they always say debunked instead of saying scientifically proven, you know even saying there is no evidence they always with this particular one they always say debunked What is the actual translation? What is the meaning of debunked? That's not the only issue that they use the word debunked to an extreme for. There was another one that just came up recently, they said it was debunked Well so it means... To debunk means to expose the falseness or sham of something So its more than just no true It's a sham Yeah like a hoax Yes yes Which is
59:12 It's questionable that they use that term every single time. I agree, now that you mention it. I didn't think about it but now that you mentioned it...I think you're right. You are right! Whoa everybody write it down! Write it down oh that is what we call the gazebo effect. Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism That theory has been debunked The secretary announced plans- I like that Do a little not pop. That has been debunked! Oh, that was interesting. Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
1:00:04 That's unbelievable. This woman is the worst! ... in autism, that theory has been debunked The secretary announced plans for new studies to identify environmental causes for the rise in autism rates such as mold ultrasounds obesity and diabetes In his comments today, he did not mention vaccines as a possible cause. Oh no! We have nothing to moan about let's keep going Dr. Gander can you get an answer by the fall to these kinds of complex questions? No of course not This is a very complicated question what causes autism it's multifactorial there's genetics there's environmental causes Wait wait
1:00:47 Yes. How would they, they don't know what causes it? I think that's the premise of this whole presentation but now all of a sudden it's multifactorial? If you don't know what causes is how can you make that claim? Well she's Dr. Selene Grounder! Well, it's multifactorial. Why are you questioning it? Are you on the television? No! There's genetics there's environmental causes there's other causes probably too and to tease that out the number of people you need to study over time I mean if you take for instance the example of smoking and lung cancer that's actually a pretty straight correlation And that took years decades to prove that so to sort this out for autism not by September Excellent point because
1:01:30 big pharma, big tobacco was buying everybody off. That's why too great, great comparison. Excellent comparison. Perfect compassion is actually inadvertently she made a perfect comparison they've been bought off these people They overplay their hand. When it comes to potential causes that'll actually be studied, does that include vaccines in any way shape or form? Well it's interesting he did not mention vaccines again during today's press conference but he also said that he does not want researchers to feel constrained in terms of what questions they can be asking the specific things he mentioned included ultrasounds obesity older age of parents exposure to air pollution and plastics
CHAPTER 21 / 62Discussion
Media Coverage, Vaccine Safety, World Medical Community
The hosts analyze a coordinated media effort across ABC, NBC, and CBS to reinforce the narrative that vaccines do not cause autism. They point out the use of specific phrases like "unproven theories" and "rejected by the world medical community." The segment suggests this surge in coverage constitutes a "springtime buy" by pharmaceutical companies to protect their interests.
1:02:14 So there are a lot of different things that could potentially be studied through this research. That was CBS and I have much shorter just one clip from ABC and one from NBC, let's just because remember this was the springtime by authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what authorities they just listen to what they're saying. Authorities Oh, oh, boom Whom I'd have questioned authority. Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what's behind new numbers tonight showing that one out of every 31 children in America was diagnosed with some measure of autism in 2022, the latest figures available You are right! By the way John you are right this was the buy The buy was we're going to make it look like a little increase
1:02:58 From 1 in 36 to 1 in 31, that's our report. That's the news. That's the story so yes there has been increase but it is only you know one in five You nailed it. That's what the springtime buy was about! Those numbers were one in every 36 children just two years earlier and one out of every 150 children in the year 2000, and the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls U.S Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines is underlining the new numbers tonight Wait stop
1:03:36 What did he say? He helped blame. I think that's what he said. What was the phrase you used before blame, the word would be for the use of word blame. Let's listen and the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines... Helped Helped blame. Helped blame? Yes, helped blame he helps a lot of structure is that That's ABC News I help to blame this the house of Peter Jennings Why do you question these things? Villian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines is underlining The new numbers tonight his take on this has been rejected by the world medical community Oh! The World Medical Community can I become a member of this community the world medical community
1:04:21 It's not like the World Health Organization. The world, oh wait hold on a second everybody! The World Health Community! And this is just one disease. Other health officials this evening are explaining that the larger numbers are because parents and doctors are now much more aware of the disease, and are now correctly identifying more symptoms—not a reason they say to buy into unproven theories that discourage Americans from using vaccines So now we have better diagnosis Now notice here they say unproven theories
1:05:01 They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to be so or even debunked. They just say unproven theories you have now proved your theory so go home Americans from using vaccines So now we have better diagnosis broader recognition of autism spectrum so many children with less severe learning and behavior differences are being included in these new rates Autism is not new and it is not caused by vaccines There you go the bias completes and send out the bill They don't know what causes it, but it's not caused by vaccines. No! It's not... Whatever it is- Wait wait if they don't know what's causing it How do they know? How to know what's NOT causing it? How did you know exactly?! They don't know what's causing and so they can't say it's not caused by vaccines as a flat statement You question this is a- You're right again YOU'RE RIGHT This is a drug buy of all the networks and they had these talking points had to be included
NBC News reports that 40% of children identified with autism also have an intellectual disability. Experts interviewed by the network attribute the rising prevalence to broader diagnostic criteria and better detection rather than an actual epidemic. The hosts question why the data being reported is from 2022 rather than more recent years.
1:05:58 And they all gave a report. I bet you if you timed out the reports, they're all advertising length About 60 seconds with pre and post roll Here is the NBC version It is a little bit longer Maybe they got a double buy The CDC says one in 31 eight-year olds were identified with autism spectrum disorder in 2022, up from 1 in 36 two years earlier. All right we got that one check that one off the list. Hold on a second he essentially stopped it and they're all doing this is the same exact points are trying to make each time yeah why
1:06:35 Don't they have any numbers from 19, uh 2023 or even 2024 for that matter but it means already six months into 2025. Why does the numbers go back to 2022 and not and there's nothing from 2023? I'd like to know do they explain that of course not. No please! Up from one in 36 two years earlier Boys were more than three times as likely as girls to be identified with autism, minority children more than whites. Almost 40% of the kids also have an intellectual disability. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr today calling autism an epidemic. This whole generation of kids is damaged by chronic disease Dr Alex Colvison of New York's Seaver Autism Center disagrees with Kennedy's diagnosis
1:07:24 Is this report an accurate representation of how prevalent autism is in the U.S.? No, I don't think it is. I don't think we have an epidemic of autism. I think that there are number factors that are driving the increase in prevalence... Such as? Such as broadening diagnostic criteria perhaps younger age diagnosis And getting the diagnosis is a means of getting services, which are important for kids. Okay you can get your drink coupons and your check at the end of the day thank you very much for appearing on our show! And he vehemently disagrees with Kennedy's past attempts to link autism to vaccines The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism
1:08:08 How do we know this from certainty? You don't know what causes it, but you know what doesn't cause it. This makes zero sense! We have an epidemic of propaganda that's what we have ladies and gentlemen. An epidemic of bullcrap. Vaccines... The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism. This has been studied extensively across multiple continents and it's been well established in the scientific community. No, it hasn't. Science shows genetics is a factor. Iman Lamb blogs about raising two children with autism while being on the spectrum herself. One example they found... Yeah! I gave it to my kid
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Pharma Advertising, Autism Spectrum, Personal Anecdotes
Adam Curry predicts that pharmaceutical companies will eventually stop direct-to-consumer advertising and instead exert influence through coordinated media segments. The hosts discuss the broadening of the "Autism Spectrum Disorder" definition to include various behavioral traits. John Dvorak shares a personal belief that his Tourette's syndrome may have been linked to childhood vaccinations.
1:08:47 That's that's what they say. Oh you horrible mother autism while being on the spectrum herself It's not just a statistic to us it's more like a call to action as parents and science try to unlock the mysteries of the mind The mysteries are the mind Wow yeah, and Of course the real problem here is this by the way? You would just interrupt day What we just witnessed with these clips, this is where it's headed because they're going to pull the plug. It looks like it's gonna happen within the next six months. Pull the plug on advertising by pharma companies and keep their hooks into the big media companies instead of doing advertising are gonna be doing this more and more and more. Oh interesting! Don't you think? Now I do something... You've heard for certain that they're gonna pull the plug? Yeah
1:09:44 It's been dropped as a feelers have been dropped into here and there. It's going to be prognosticated now the big problem is that they expanded the definition of autism to ASD, Autism Spectrum Disorder I'm on the spectrum. I had Tourette's! I'm on the spectrum Yes, and you yourself believe it was from a shot. Yes totally! Happened seven years old hmm what happened at 7? I think i got some more shots when I went to Europe yes so that just confuses everything because you have severe autism what we you and I would recognize he also got kids walking around on their tippy toes and twirling that's autism okay
1:10:33 Kids on their tippy toes twirling. Some kids do the stupid stuff! All of that is on the spectrum, you know? And some kids are geniuses and oh he's too interested in Lego blocks He's on the spectrum Yeah and by the way interesting a lot of these kids are interesting now You do have severe autism for sure and real retardation of mental capacity And we have family members where that happens. Shot, kid got still living at home 30 years old Yeah! That's horrific Anyway You and I are not going to solve it my friend Nope but we can sure ridicule these reports Yeah that easy to do Well its easy to do but nobody does it No If you haven't noticed Yeah
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Banishment History, Southwick Family, Quakers
A historical account of the Southwick family, Quakers who were banished from their Puritan community in the 1600s, is used as a backdrop for modern legal discussions. The Southwicks fled to Shelter Island, New York, where they eventually died of exposure. This historical precedent of "civil death" is being revisited in the context of modern deportation and exile policies.
1:11:37 Now people are too busy trying to debunk Macron's married to a dude. That's what everyone is... Let's talk about Blake Lively! I have a clip that Getting to our guy, our buddy in... in... Poster. Salvador? I don't know where he is. Oh yeah the Alphs. He's in the- And by the way that guy- He's got a shaven head What was his name Garcia? I can't remember. Elion! Elion Gonzalez. Elion Gonzalez First of all, I thought first he was a gay hairdresser then it was a gay makeup guy now he's a father, a Maryland father with three kids Whatever happened to the gay part That person disappeared
1:12:28 Yeah, that was the messaging they were throwing at us and then trying to maybe get gay sympathy or something. I'm not sure what their methodology was. They even got Rogan on that one! Yeah, Rogan's like oh they deported a gay hairdresser? They gotta pull that back! Let me see... Deport...? Maybe- Was that a completely different story? Well, I don't know maybe it was but whatever the case is this guy was the gay hairdresser. Well he is now Well, he's probably. Gay Venezuelan stylist sent to Salvadorian prison after disgraced cops report this from Milwaukee well that guy nothing ever happened and that story that's the story but for some reason they dropped that story because these stories are all bogus yeah because it was that was Milwaukee and this is The Maryland Man
1:13:27 Okay, so let's what you got. So I guess some this is a different kind of a take on things This is the old brother banishment tale What the old brother banishment Oh brother? Oh brother? Oh brother banishment okay Is this something I should understand? Is this code?" There's no set up. It just sets itself up." Their names were Lawrence and Cassandra Suthick Ford discovered the connection with his ancestors when he started digging into his genealogy as a hobby, a few years ago The Southwark's story was interesting because they were Quakers living under a very Puritan government, so they were banished from the community. It was for being Quakers yeah the court levied it as a formal punishment maybe under blasphemy or heresy laws I don't know the exact statute that would have cited but that was the general purpose of it They fled to Shelter Island in New York According their memorial according some records that survived they died of exposure and maltreatment shortly thereafter
1:14:28 They were already elderly when it happened, so it was probably quite an ordeal for them to be removed from their community and sent elsewhere. It was a sentence of banishment that became a de facto death sentence, it sounds like? More or less yeah I think that you know for people who are banished from their community it amounts to sort of civil death which is why usually see legal commentators refer to it as sort of one step below the death penalty This was unexpected story Yeah, and what do you think? How do you think they... this is like well let's think of a new angle to shoehorn our buddy in El Salvador into. It's been shipped towards El Salvador how do we do that I've got an idea
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Donald Trump, El Salvador, Criminal Exile
President Donald Trump has reportedly discussed sending both illegal immigrants and "homegrown" American criminals to maximum security prisons in El Salvador. The New Republic explores the legality of exiling U.S. citizens, linking the idea to historical banishment practices. The Salvadoran government has expressed a willingness to accept these individuals for indefinite detention.
1:15:10 Part two. Matt Ford is a staff writer at the New Republic, and he has been thinking about the Southwix because banishment is suddenly back on the table. How many illegal criminals are you planning on exporting to El Salvador? And President Kelly, how many are you willing to take from the US as many as possible President Trump has already sent plane loads of immigrants to a maximum security prison in El Salvador for indefinite detention. Is this creative or what? Wow! So we have a completely unrelated story about someone being banished from the community...
1:15:49 Yeah, in the 1600s. As a Quaker! So immediately you do the association that Trump is so back assward that he's doing stuff that took place in the 1600s and he's trying to bring it back this is how How far down... this is your Europeans must really would beat this up. Oh yeah, this is some MKUltra stuff did they flash it's radio but they might as well just flash a monarch butterfly at you okay here comes some programming or indefinite detention the legality of that move has being fought out in courts but at an Oval Office meeting with the Salvadoran president this week Trump was looking ahead
1:16:28 I'd like to go a step further. And then, I say...I said it to Pam! I don't know what the laws are we always have to obey the laws but We also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways That hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat. We're number one when they're not looking at our absolute monsters, I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country. In other words, exiling U.S. citizens for committing a crime which brings us around to Matt Ford's 11th great grandparents. The grand school of American history is these practices are not unheard of but they are also now pretty far disregarded
1:17:09 Oh, nice script reading. Pretty far disregarded. Wow! That's good stuff. It's creative. Very creative twist that is just like an eye roller... This was a very long presentation I only have four clips But we're going to part three. Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this? By the way she's starting to sound like Scott. Listen to her start it over. Tell me I'm wrong. Okay hold on... Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution? Yeah let me see... Suffering succotash!
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Constitutional Law, Citizenship Rights, Edward Snowden
Legal experts debate whether the U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids the banishment of citizens, noting that the document primarily lists what the government cannot do. The hosts compare the proposed exile of criminals to the case of Edward Snowden, whose passport was revoked while he was abroad. The discussion centers on whether citizenship provides an absolute right to reside within the country.
1:17:54 various legal experts who found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution? Yes, I don't even want to talk about it like Scott. It's just fantastic! Well it's tough because you know on one hand the courts have never really ruled on that's what makes it so striking and... Because nobody has tried it Nobody has done it and so you know I can't find a Supreme Court opinion I can point one to you incite you one where the Justices 50 or 100 years ago said banishment is unconstitutional, exile is unconstitutional. But when you look at the grand scope of how the courts think about deportation extradition citizenship it's pretty clear that it would be a disfavored practice and we know that also from American history What history book did he read? They're also talking about the Constitution I think a lot people don't understand the constitution as a list of things you can do As the government
1:18:51 as the government. It's really a... The Bill of Rights, certainly! It's like not stuff the government can't do and then everything else you can make laws, you can do your own thing You could do banishment I don't see any issue because it's not..you can't there is nothing in the Constitution that forbids it because the Constitution is about forbidding things. Yes And so there's nothing that forbids it. You should be able to do this and in fact they don't talk about too much but You know, people have been kicked out of the country largely like Snowden. They took his passport away while he was in Russia and now he can't come back. Good point! What's the difference between that and banishment? Well, Snowden left himself. He left on his own accord then they wouldn't let him come back in. I guess that is banishment but it didn't kick them out... ...He just not allowed back in Yeah, tomato-tomato. I gotcha
1:19:46 Okay, let's wrap it up. This is when President Trump is asked explicitly if he's talking about US citizens Yeah, yeah, that includes them Why do you think there's special category of person? They're as bad as anybody that comes in We have bad ones to Matt Ford are u.s Citizens a special category of person under us law constitutionally speaking in many ways they are I mean American citizens Are the only ones who can vote They're the only ones who can serve on juries and they have a automatic right to live in this country. The general practice is they can't be denied re-entry if they leave, which is sort of a constitutional barrier none of itself to the idea that they would be exiled to a distant land. Yeah like Russia
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Trade Tariffs, Howard Lutnick, Semiconductor Industry
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick announced that new tariffs on semiconductors and electronic supply chains could be implemented within months. President Trump clarified that previous exemptions for certain electronic products were temporary and that sector-specific tariffs are forthcoming. The administration emphasizes the need for critical technology and medicines to be manufactured within the United States.
1:20:29 Yeah, yeah. So they're kind of trying to go at this angle This is not going to go anywhere but I thought it was interesting and somewhat entertaining Yes! Oh there's the Zephyr It's not really the Zephyr But i heard something go by Some...it's one of many trains coming in from China They are trying move as much goods into the country as they can As quickly as possible, yes They are loading up Well let's talk about some tariffs Got some tariff news Let me see where my tariffs Uh, ah! Hehehe. I uh...I was kinda right It was a huge relief to US tech firms but it may be short-lived On Friday the US Custom Service announced that around 20 electronic products including phones and computers would be exempt from reciprocal tariffs
1:21:19 But by Sunday, the US president had downplayed the move. Donald Trump said that those products will be targeted under upcoming sector-specific tariffs goods seen as critical to U.S. national defense networks I'm telling you that Jamoche our Commerce Secretary he said something that clearly was not true It was not true that they were exempted. And so now they're kind of weaseling around, oh no don't you worry because something's coming back on that I think he jumped the gun on that one Nobody is getting off the hook for unfair trade balances There was no tariff exception announced on Friday These products are subject to existing 20% fentanyl tariffs and they are just moving into a different tariff bucket
1:22:04 Trump said semiconductors and the entire electronic supply chain are under review in a new national investigation. He promised to release details on Monday Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick for his part said semiconductor tariffs could be in place within a month or two Our medicines and our semiconductors need to be built in America. Donald Trump is on it, he's calling that out so you should understand these are included in the semiconductor tariffs that are coming. Howard go out there and fix that! Oh okay yes sir yes boss. China reacted to the US move on Friday by describing it as merely a small step toward correcting what it called wrong practice and urged Washington to cancel the tariffs entirely
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Breakthrough Prize, Seth Rogen, AI News Clips
The "Oscars of Science," the Breakthrough Prize ceremony, was recently co-hosted by Seth Rogen and funded by tech billionaires like Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg. Rogen reportedly made a joke about Elon Musk "buying the president," which was subsequently edited out of official recordings. Adam Curry notes the difficulty of finding authentic clips of the event due to a flood of AI-generated news content on YouTube.
1:22:51 I love... Hey! Yeah? What? You give me grief about my clips from NTD and you play this guy?! Jeez. These guys are from France 24, I don't know where they're getting them from This is like D-Listers You know what's really bad? I tried to pull some clips but it just didn't work. So, there was a science award show last night and Seth Rogen was the co-host with... What is the guy's name? Norman? Seth Rogen the comic? Yes! And it's like the Oscars of Science and its funded by Peter Thiel Mark Zuckerberg etc. It's only online
1:23:36 Everyone's in tuxedos. Oh, yeah so great and then Seth Rogan This is what I was looking for us looking for a clip Seth Rogan said well isn't amazing that you know it was all these people funded it And then yet you got one guy takes 300 million dollars buys the president You know obviously slamming Elon Musk So they cut that out It's no longer available But then I just went looking for it because surely somebody recorded this and has a clip. And all I got were AI generated videos, there must have been 100 of them and they sound kind of okay but then they'd all go Seth Rogen like okay well alright you're AI, Seth Rogen! YouTube is just filled with AI news clips its horrible its become useless
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Boeing, China Trade War, Aerospace Tariffs
China has ordered its major airlines to pause orders for Boeing aircraft in retaliation for U.S. trade tariffs. This move affects nearly 180 planned jet deliveries over the next three years, potentially benefiting European rival Airbus. Airlines like Delta and Ryanair are expressing concern over the 20% duties and the collapse of long-standing duty-free aerospace agreements.
1:24:30 So I'd rather have this guy than the Seth Rogen AI. No, no, you know the guys fine because I have the NTD guys that sound funny but it just seems to me like if you've got a big network like F24... You could do something. Yeah, you could pay somebody some money that can actually speak English So then we have the latest retaliation from China for what it's worth. Donald Trumps trade war has hit the aerospace sector worse than previously thought, China has now reportedly ordered its airlines to pause orders from US plane maker Boeing along with parts made by American companies
1:25:06 Its top three airlines Air China, China Eastern and China Southern had planned to take delivery of a total 179 Boeing jets over the next two to three years. Uncertainty over tariffs has left manufacturers and airlines alike asking just who'll pay the cost... And scouring contracts to see just how exposed they might be Even if Washington's reciprocal tariffs are currently on hold with a baseline 10% in place for three months, except for China which has a full 145 percent levy in place. The long build times for aircraft means those figures could easily change between now and ultimate delivery. With an order from Airbus on the cards
1:25:46 US airline Delta has stated it won't pay the cost of tariffs at all. And the European plane maker is saying it's still assessing the impact of trade tensions and a possible 20% duty on its exports Some airlines like Ryanair have indicated they could defer deliveries until next year while waiting for clarity Either way, with decades old agreement that maintained aerospace traders duty free now in tatters The world's airlines and plane makers could now be on course for a serious standoff. Yeah, the Dutch newspapers were just filled with this story that oh travel to the US has is dumped down through the basement no one's buying all the airlines are in trouble no one's buying tickets to go to America I don't even know if that's true
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NVIDIA, Gavin Newsom, Tariff Lawsuit
California Governor Gavin Newsom has filed a lawsuit challenging President Trump's authority to unilaterally impose tariffs under the International Economic Emergency Powers Act. Newsom argues the tariffs harm California's economy, which is the nation's largest importer and manufacturer. Meanwhile, NVIDIA faces significant revenue losses due to new restrictions on chip exports to China.
1:26:39 Well, you'll find out on the way back if their plane's dead empty. You know well it was over going over and So the European Central Bank lowered their interest rate again This is their third cut I believe in a row now two points to five percent which seems quite low compared to the United States and President Trump is not happy about that. about President Trump's sweeping tariff policy. Even before Powell spoke, tech stocks started dipping after the Trump administration put up new roadblocks for giant chip maker NVIDIA to export to China. The company saying it will lose $5.5 billion dollars
1:27:37 some imports coming into the US from China like electric vehicles and syringes are now facing a hefty 245% tariff. The White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and... This is another thing that they've done, so they're adding up the tariffs from 2017 Making it sound like we've just made to go to 245, but this isn't this includes tariffs from Also is a question in my mind what electric cars from China? Yeah coming into the US. Yeah all of those none I have seen one shiny that We don't have one Chinese car in the u.s.. That I know of no No, no But if so why did she say that she said she specifically said cars oh
1:28:21 Well, she doesn't like Trump. The White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and representatives from Japan America's fourth biggest trading partner but a new lawsuit over the trump tariffs from the fifth biggest economy in the world California We're also the largest manufacturing state in the United States of America, $412 billion output. And I want to put that in perspective. Newsom charging that Trump does not have the authority to unilaterally place tariffs using the International Economic Emergency Powers Act requesting a judge void the tariffs and block them where the hell is Congress? Where the hell is Speaker Johnson
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Inflation, Stock Market, Auto Industry Exemptions
President Trump claims to have "fixed" inflation, citing a 2.4% rate for March and a rising stock market. He has offered temporary tariff exemptions to Apple and is considering similar moves for the auto industry to allow for supply chain adjustments. Economists remain divided on whether these single-month reports indicate a long-term positive trend or if tariffs will eventually drive prices higher.
1:29:01 do your job and so I am angry as a parent. As a taxpayer? Newsom says the terrorists are impacting California's trade with US trading partners around the world, California is also the nation's biggest importer. Ah poor California We're the biggest, we're number one. Biggest! We are the biggest importer And by the way President Trump he's fixed it He solved inflation and everything is good US president Donald Trump claims he has fixed inflation despite the recent market turmoil triggered by his enactment of global tariffs
1:29:41 We have to solve problems and we already solved inflation. If you look at the numbers, the numbers are incredible actually. Stock market's up and we're not letting other countries take advantage of this country like they have for the last 40 years." His remarks follow the release of the latest monthly consumer price report which shows a 2.4% inflation rate for March It also comes after the US president offered an exemption Apple and other technology companies, prompting global stock rises after another tumultuous week. Trump has since announced he might temporarily exempt the auto industry from tariffs to give car makers time to adjust their supply chains
1:30:24 However, many economists remain reluctant to view a single consumer report as evidence of a broader trend and continue to fear that Trump's tariffs will raise prices and harm the economy. Yeah yeah but how was Andrew? I didn't hear the show DH Unplugged comes out every Tuesday night How is Andrew doing? He's hanging in there it wasn't as bad as i thought it might be Oh okay he probably made money He probably got in on that big buy. That big buying opportunity. I don't know... Okay, good! Oh, I'm glad he has not contacted me which means he's really angry No, i think you're right, he doesn't listen to the show anymore. He is too busy watching MSNBC shaking his fist
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Pentagon Leaks, Dan Caldwell, Pete Hegseth
Dan Caldwell, a senior advisor to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, has been placed on administrative leave following an investigation into classified leaks. The investigation involved the use of polygraphs to identify who disclosed plans for U.S. strikes against the Houthis in Yemen. Caldwell, a long-time ally of Hegseth, is the first high-profile official implicated in the purge of Pentagon leakers.
1:31:17 I don't know how much more you're gonna have to insult him before you get that call. I'm trying real hard, I want the call! Andrew give Adam a call he's lonely How about this? This is kind of an extra little double feature in here An advisor to U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth has been escorted from the Pentagon,
1:31:54 after being identified during an investigation into leaks at the Department of Defense. Dan Caldwell has been placed on administrative leave for, quote, an unauthorized disclosure that's according to a US official who says the investigation remains ongoing Phil Stewart covers the Pentagon for us He has been the first person implicated in an investigation that was launched on March 21st. And this investigation authorized the use of polygraphs against senior Defense Department officials, which obviously signaled that Hegseth and the Trump administration were quite concerned about something going on at the Pentagon related to leaks of classified information
1:32:37 And now we have Dan Caldwell, who has been escorted out. But we're hearing that he may not be the last person to be implicated in this investigation. Okay so Dan Caldwell... All right, we have a name and let's learn about Dan Caldwell! Now who is Dan Caldwell? So Dan Caldwell had been one of the most influential people in the Pentagon that nobody had ever heard He was first named, kind of came out into the public view when The Atlantic published the transcript from a signal chat that involved planning for the US launch of strikes against the Houthis in Yemen. And when the U.S Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had to name his point person for this coordination on this major us offensive
1:33:24 he named Dan Caldwell. Now, Dan Caldwell and Pete Hegseth go way back. They've known each other for a long time. He had tremendous influence and it shows that this leak investigation is no joke and that Hegseth is willing to let key allies go if it means purging the Pentagon from leakers. What are the chances that this guy was on the dreaded signal call? He's being kicked out for unauthorized disclosure Now I'm thinking he might have been the one that added the journalist. Well, there's something interesting about this guy is wiki page for example has got spook written all over it but not in the spot to spook myth There's two forms that we look at One is spot the spook which as you can see their background what schools they went to and then they had new assignments all over the world for some unknown reason multiple Eastern languages
1:34:18 Yeah, exactly. Russian and Arabic. I mean come on! So then there's the other one which is that nothing. Empty just completely empty. It's like what school did he go to? Have no idea when was he born? Don't know yeah does his parents have the same name as him hard to say because there's nothing no mention so we have this type of guy yeah and so i suspect he might be planted For a long time. He was long-time confidant. Yeah, that's what you do. You put a guy in there and he just does the reports back Well if you listen to that entire Kurt...what's his name? Interview with Tucker Man! There are so many people particularly in defense who are so corrupt They're making so much money off of war and things that we start crap that we stir up
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James Boasberg, Criminal Contempt, Venezuelan Migrants
U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled that the Trump administration is in criminal contempt for failing to turn back two planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador. The administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport the individuals without hearings. Boasberg has ordered the government to either return the men to the U.S. or identify the officials who ignored his judicial order.
1:35:14 And I would love that guy to be testifying somewhere. After the Epstein files come out, of course. Yeah, that'll be the day! I can wait...I have patience What about Diddy at least? Come on. No, Diddy just uh...not guilty to something else They throw Diddy in from time-to-time but that lawyer's kind of falling apart The Busby guy you know he's got all kinds of problems going on Surprise I mean, what's surprising is did he still alive. That's what's surprising and must be a real they're not gonna make it says he's gonna keep well we'll see how long that last must be a reason uh keeping on those Berg the judge yeah this isn't interesting i got some analysis on this is bowsberg contempt NPRS there is the open now this is the guy who um to judge who told the tone to turn the plane around
1:36:09 The Trump administration, quote, demonstrated willful disregard for a court's order and is likely in criminal contempt. That is what U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled today here in Washington. Boasberg has been trying to determine if the government purposely ignored him last month when he told it to turn back two airplanes—planes carrying Venezuelan migrants—to a prison in El Salvador and peers, Adrian Florido is here. Hi Adrian! Hi Mary Louise! What else did Judge Boasberg say in his ruling? Well he said that he found that in fact government officials did ignore his order to turn those planes around a little context Mary Louise on March 15th President Trump announced that he'd invoked the wartime alien enemies act of 1798 so he could quickly deport members of the Venezuelan gang
1:37:01 Tren de Aragua without hearings. Later that day, officials in Texas loaded dozens of men into two airplanes. The ACLU got wind of the government's plans and sued during an emergency hearing excuse me in DC that evening Judge Bozberg asked government lawyers if the planes had already taken off instead if they had they needed to turn around. The planes did not turn back though. They landed in El Salvador and that country's president locked them up Boasberg, in his ruling today said the government could have returned those planes because they took off during his hearing and they landed after he issues it his order. He wrote that and I'm quoting here The Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders And he said that he had probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt Criminal contempt So what does that mean when that's applied to the federal government? Oh ask Eric Holder what that means It means nothing. It means completely nothing
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Habeas Corpus, Judicial Power Grab, Constitutional Crisis
The Department of Justice has characterized Judge Boasberg's ruling as a "judicial power grab." There are allegations that Boasberg is under investigation for improperly collaborating with organizations like the ACLU on amicus briefs. The hosts discuss the potential for a full-blown constitutional crisis if the executive branch continues to bypass judicial orders regarding immigration enforcement.
1:37:55 Well, it depends on what the government does next. Boasberg gave it until next Wednesday to do one of two things. It can show him how its working to correct his violation and he said that the most obvious way would be to reassert custody of the men it deported so they can challenge their deportations in federal courts Now Rob, the constitutional lawyer did a deep dive for me Deep dive! And he said, this is only about habeas corpus. Yes but you can't sue in a different state and they should have sued in Texas and so this whole thing was it's technicality really It's not like this judge can really turn stuff around the whole thing is pardon the pun trumped up
1:38:44 Yeah, they're trying to get something going here. They are still being held in that Salvadoran prison and many of their families have flatly denied that they are gang members if the government chooses not to do that Boseberg said then... Do they have a soundbite? Do they ever crying wife? Do they have crying children? Do they have anyone like a mom anything They tried. The family? Oh no, the family's saying oh no! If the government chooses not to do that, Boasberg said then he said it needs to tell him the names of specific government officials who ignored his order He said he will hold contempt hearings and if necessary appoint a lawyer to criminally prosecute them for contempt and they could face fines or prison So how are both sides responding to this ruling start with lawyers who brought this case
1:39:28 Well, they're from the ACLU and from a group called Democracy Forward. This is Democracy Forward's attorney in this case, Sky Paramin. This ruling it's clear that we've seen the government has acted in blatant disregard for the judiciary treating court orders as if they are optional and that's not how our systems of checks and balances works. This really is something that should concern every single person in the country She said that her team will continue working through the courts to ensure that everyone in the U.S gets due process On the other side, a White House spokesman said the government will appeal today's ruling He said the president is committed to ensuring that quote criminal illegal migrants are no longer a threat to Americans The Department of Justice also issued a statement calling Boasbergs' ruling a judicial power grab
1:40:17 You know, not in the news and I only have read a report about this. This Boasberg is under investigation himself for taking drafts of amicus briefs from organizations like ACLU and then redlining them sending them back saying no no you change this change this then send it back to me And then using those to dismiss cases or you know to do something like this which is hold people in contempt He's under investigation because Holman has some goods on him. He has some whistleblower, but I can't find any news any clips about this. Of course not! What am i thinking? Hey, Draney! Shocker! This is of course not the only case in which federal courts are trying to force the Trump administration to obey court orders zoom out give us a bigger picture
1:41:07 Well, members of the Trump administration are not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. Is she a bitcoiner? Zoom out! Zoom out! Give us a bigger picture. Tell us what you've learned Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. And today is the first time a judge has clearly said they will be punished for not obeying courts if they still refuse that is where legal experts say that we will have a full-blown constitutional crisis or the balance of powers between The executive and judicial branches may not hold Oh at least we have another constitutional crisis on our hands We have super cuts so we're good. We're ready bring it on
1:41:47 We are ready. Bring it on, we need it! I do actually have some clips about the wrongly deported man... Yeah NPR how coincidental If you don't mind, I shall roll these out. Judge Paula Zinis ordered the Trump administration to provide more information on whether it has done anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland man deported to El Salvador by mistake. And Piaz Jimena Bustillo has been following this and she's here with me in our studios in Washington Good morning, Jimena! Good morning, Michelle The judge originally ordered for two items First for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release and return from Secau This is the mega prison in El Salvador
A Maryland man, Abrego Garcia, was reportedly deported to El Salvador by mistake, an incident the White House called a "clerical error." However, subsequent reports suggest Garcia had a history of domestic violence, leading some to argue his deportation was justified. The case has become a flashpoint in the debate over due process and the speed of the administration's removal programs.
1:41:07 Well, members of the Trump administration are not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. Is she a bitcoiner? Zoom out! Zoom out! Give us a bigger picture. Tell us what you've learned Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. And today is the first time a judge has clearly said they will be punished for not obeying courts if they still refuse that is where legal experts say that we will have a full-blown constitutional crisis or the balance of powers between The executive and judicial branches may not hold Oh at least we have another constitutional crisis on our hands We have super cuts so we're good. We're ready bring it on
1:41:47 We are ready. Bring it on, we need it! I do actually have some clips about the wrongly deported man... Yeah NPR how coincidental If you don't mind, I shall roll these out. Judge Paula Zinis ordered the Trump administration to provide more information on whether it has done anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland man deported to El Salvador by mistake. And Piaz Jimena Bustillo has been following this and she's here with me in our studios in Washington Good morning, Jimena! Good morning, Michelle The judge originally ordered for two items First for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release and return from Secau This is the mega prison in El Salvador
1:42:29 The White House has said that his deportation was an administrative error. Second, to ensure that if he is brought back to the U.S., it... Stopped a clip! So who said this administrative error quote? Everyone keeps bringing it up. I look for it, specifically... The administration says there's an administrative error. Who said this? The administration! There is no the administration that has a voice. There's a person that must have said it but... It was Leavitt. Carolyn Levitt said it. She did?! Yeah she did. She said it was administrative error and
1:43:07 I think she actually said clerical error. I'd have to look it up, but what that clerical error is not entirely clear so he was apparently deported by mistake But when they looked at him and went, you actually deserve to be deported. You know what's interesting is if you listen to all these reports on the one side that we're playing and then you listened of like Jesse Waters who did a really deep dive on the whole thing And this guy is like... This is bad person! Bad guy
1:43:44 I heard he beat his wife. Twice, he beat her up twice and probably more than that but she's reported it twice yeah and then... We should deport all wife-beaters to El Salvador! I'm all for that! Yeah this is banishment yes So the... Did you see the clip, a TikTok clip where the guy beats his wife in a bar? He gives her couple of slugs and every guy in the bar beats the crap out of the guy. Well good! No I didn't Yeah that's what I said You're doom scrolling on X because that's all you get if you just scroll on x you wind up getting people in cars shooting at cops
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TikTok Algorithms, AI Content, Targeted Advertising
John Dvorak describes his experience "doom scrolling" on TikTok and how the platform's algorithm quickly identified him as an older user. Within minutes, he was served advertisements for dental implants based on his scrolling patterns and interest in AI-generated videos. The hosts discuss the addictive nature of the platform and the prevalence of fake or manipulated content.
1:44:28 People beating each other, people getting killed in accidents. In-car camera of a truck driver getting an accident is it is everything is short and Videos that are just meant to stress you out. This is okay, so here I just said this side not J is Putting up the tech grouch on tick-tock and on Instagram Reruns reruns the reruns for starts and then we're gonna do some originals but How well I gotta like him how's the tech grouch doing? Is he going viral? I just showed up yesterday. And so she gives me her phone, which has TikTok on it and she says pick some of these that you like and so I start doom scrolling. Uh oh! Holy crap! See iPhone he looked taken the TikToks from X and repurposed them they've been filtered and when I go on TikTok you know I end up since I'm on a VPN half the time I'm in Argentina so everything's in Spanish I don't care
1:45:29 And even though the same basic TikToks, only everything's in Spanish. Same idea and they're dancing and doing this stupid dancing but I got on the phone thing because you mentioned this of the phone is different. Yes Holy mackerel! I told ya. Within just a few minutes You were hooked! I had to give it back to her within a few minutes they were starting to every third advertiser was like Tik Tok, Tik Tok, Tik Tok advertisement Shop shop And the advertisements I started getting out of the blue were for teeth implants. They already know you! And I said to Jay, what am I getting all these teeth implants? She says because they know your older. Yeah and this is your connection. This is your voice she says no she tells me this. She studied it. She got this information. She says its been determined that older...she watched me do this. It's the way you scroll
1:46:29 The way I score and the fact that I stay on certain of the presentations, and the ones that include a lot AI imaging. According to her means you're older. Because you fall for it? No, not falling for anything as amusing as hell! But you like it yeah It's very likable to watch some of these AI presentations because they got a dancing dog, they got little baby that's dancing and he is muscle-bound. He is dancing. We've got an old coot roll out the dentures! And so within five or six of these things they figured out I must be an old coot and so they started rolling out the ads for
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Social Media Habits, Content Sharing, Bad Cooking Videos
Adam Curry observes a fellow airline passenger's rapid engagement with Instagram, noting the speed of "flicking" through content and the constant cycle of liking and sharing. This leads to a discussion about popular social media trends, such as "women who can't cook" videos, which garner massive followings despite—or because of—their unappealing content.
1:47:13 teeth implants. Now, was she not angry that you ruined her algorithm? No, according to her it doesn't do whoever's doing the scrolling it takes the... It's in real time they'll change it So on the plane so I had to fly to Atlanta first and I'm sitting next to this guy and he has a gigantic iPhone! I mean I didn't know they were this big. It's huge And, you know so I'm just sitting there. He's in the middle seat and he's going through Instagram
1:47:49 It is amazing to watch. So it's like flick, thumb thick, flick up one okay Okay look look look oh Press down heart send to somebody go back like it flick next one okay gay guy no next yeah and then Oh I'm gonna send this three people but a better better but uh and then click flick Oh lol flick And its fast! Its fast The thumbs are moving, moving, moving. He's just doing stuff! He's grooving all over the place It was fascinating And of course he had no idea I was looking at him because he was completely... Well you can't pay that much attention to you because he is focused You could just...I mean
1:48:34 Maybe I don't get out enough, but this was an excellent opportunity just to watch. He's probably in his 30s late 30s Wow You are you are in tune with the machine and every Every you can see him this decision-making process Like do I watch it? No, and you can even see him watching something. You see the thumb going closer Do I flip this one up away? I'm gonna wait for a second And then he has to make a response if he's watched the whole video It has to be a heart alike a comment share lot of sharing going on. That's like this is so bad
1:49:13 That's terrible. It is well, I mean I was on the thing for I don't know maybe I don't know how many minutes but it was long enough for me to give it back to her and say you know I think you got enough material of the favorites that I could do reaction videos too and because but its And there are some in fact there was one thing I was kind of fascinated with were these women who can't cook videos Oh yeah. And there's endless, endless women who can't cook! The mom and her son? Have you seen that one? No, but I'm sure it's in the mix. Yeah But these it's like hundreds of women who can't cook and they have huge followings according to Jay Especially the ones who really can't cook and of course we all fall for they they have big following Who knows? Who knows these numbers are could be all fake but I would follow that there was one woman that can't cook and
1:50:07 That is so bad. It's like holy man, how do you even come up with these ideas? You know you take the tacos and a lot of cheese Take a can of beans a lot of potato chips on top and then you hit it with your foot And always cheese, lots of cheese. A lot of cheese at the end. We are doomed! And then you put it in the oven and it comes out. Oh and she's always... She scrapes it out of there and puts on a plate this is so delicious my husband loves it I'm thinking this poor husbands like he doesn't shoot himself but yeah Tech Grouch save us we need saving tech grouch come on him
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NPR Funding, Catherine Maher, Federal Rescission
The Trump administration has drafted a memo to end federal funding for public media, including NPR and PBS. NPR CEO Catherine Maher appeared on air to defend the network's journalism against accusations of "radical, woke propaganda." The proposed rescission would affect approximately $250 million in public radio funds for fiscal years 2026 and 2027.
1:50:47 It's the exit strategy of all exit strategies. You will be a sensation! Sensation? Yeah... Since we're speaking about the phone, you know I've given up on the holo book because you haven't done anything but had a new idea. Still getting people sending stuff in No please, you're not doing anything But i figured maybe if we change it to Noagendasideboard.com, you know so you have a big drawer and then we just send out this whole sideboard and put the phone in the drawer and he can really be like John anything to get us out of this gig? Anything! Anything... Alright. Now yours though, you were on a series of clips that I rudely interrupted. I don't think i even want to go back to them it's not even interesting Okay well I do have an interesting one before the break
1:51:38 This is NPR is under attack by the government finally they're gonna pull the funding. Yes, all 5%. Not even that yeah so here I have a series of four clips that they have the attack on NPR clip And they brought out Maher, the woman mayor. She's the NPR boss now? She is the NPR boss and here we go with the attack on NPR. Well, NPR is in the headlines this week that is because the Trump administration has drafted a memo to Congress calling for lawmakers to end nearly all federal funding to public media
1:52:17 That includes NPR and PBS, and would include money already appropriated by Congress. That's according to a White House official who spoke to NPR. So we have invited our president and CEO, Catherine Maher, to speak with us live! Welcome! Thank you for having me. I want to quickly clarify the relationship here for people listening. You are my boss. You hold the top job at NPR But you're not a journalist, you are not involved in newsroom editorial decisions. That's completely correct. And your office? You have not seen or had input into the questions that I am about to ask you. We've never met before and you are just random person from the audience. Yes, from the audience and here we go! That's correct.
1:53:01 We have asked, the newsroom has asked the White House to comment on what their goal is here with pulling back funding. They have not responded. They have posted on- Hold on! Stop! The goal is to pull back funding And we'd like to take your money away. Oh, what's your goal? What's the goal? Take your money away Hello meant on what their goal is here with pulling back funding They have not responded they have posted on the White House website a list of NPR and PBS stories that it says represent biased content and quote radical, woke propaganda disguised as news. This includes stories dealing with LGBTQ issues, the coverage of race, coverage of politics... Understanding Catherine that many of the examples on this list date from before your tenure does NPR stand by its journalism? Absolutely! Well why'd you cut that off?
1:53:57 I didn't mean to. Oh, you did? But absolutely is what she said. Absolutely! Yes of course. She doesn't even know what they're talking about. Well she's not a journalist but she stands by their reporting and trusts them implicitly. Has NPR been formally notified by the White House about the rescission? We have not. How much money is at stake? In this particular package, it would be all the funds for fiscal year 26 and 27. For public radio in total that is about $250 million. For public media as a whole it's a little over a billion dollars
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Public Radio Network, Rural Stations, Budget Analysis
NPR leadership argues that losing federal funding would primarily harm rural member stations that rely on government grants for infrastructure. However, critics point out that direct federal funding accounts for only about 1% of NPR's total budget, with the majority coming from underwriting and private donations. The hosts question NPR's spending priorities, including the purchase of body armor for overseas journalists.
1:54:36 including public television. The central question, what would be the effect on NPR of losing government funding? Pack your bag lady! The biggest effect would be on the NPR network which are the 246 stations around the country that you're probably listening to us on right now those are our member stations and they receive about a hundred million of 120 122 million that goes to public radio every single year. Have these people heard of streaming lately? I mean we don't really need the broadcast stations, have you considered it? It gets thicker than this! So the big impact would be on rural stations, stations in geographies that are quite large or complex
1:55:21 in order to be able to receive broadcasts where infrastructure costs are very high, you could see some of those stations really having to cut back services or potentially going away altogether. So we're throwing around a lot of big numbers here but basically just stick with this point because I think a lot of people may not understand NPR the network that you and I work for gets around 1%. of our annual budget directly from the federal government, you're making the point that a lot of our member stations would be hit considerably harder. So is the one billion part of the 1 percent? Are they getting $1 trillion? No, like 250 million is the 1 percent which is what when you make if it's 1 percent that's 20 billion dollars overall am I got my numbers right It's 100 to 101.
1:56:15 20 billion, she did 250 million. So one zero will be 2.5 to 25 billion. Yeah so 24 so their total budget is twenty five just NPR not the billion but if it was a million in there too we're talking about 100 all public media that's probably all public media was a billion she said from the government and it's only 1% so wait a minute you're telling me that They've got $20 billion from including the 250 from the government, plus underwriters, advertisers. Individuals, foundation... This is a better deal than broadcast media where you just rely on advertising. Squarespace, MyPillow.com, Code Bongino Wow!
1:57:13 It's very fuzzy. And they're whining! They've got $20 billion to play with and they're gonna lose a billion, oh no! No I'm sorry they got 20 billion to 25 billion to play with and are going to lose 250 million and their whining because it is going to hurt the little... Where is that other money going? Ladies and gentlemen I present you $25 billion worth of money Suffer in succotash! I am Scott He literally has a golden voice. Let me tell you, so we receive about 1% of our budget it goes to support things like body armor for journalists covering conflict overseas extra support for presidential national elections all the sorts of things that we want to invest in to ensure that were able to report on issues that matter to the public
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Public Media Revenue, Broadcast Infrastructure, Neumann Microphones
The hosts analyze the financial health of public media, suggesting that the total revenue for all public media entities may be significantly higher than reported. They mock NPR's reliance on expensive equipment, such as $7,000 Neumann microphones, while claiming they need government support. The discussion touches on the relevance of traditional radio in an era of ubiquitous streaming and podcasting.
1:58:04 But generally speaking, most of our operating budget comes from our membership fees and that's what allow our members to be able to receive programming. It comes from underwriting support it comes from private donations individual audience member donations and that same thing is true for member stations except federal funding makes up a much bigger percentage of their total budget if all government funding goes away Would we survive? It's going towards body armor for journalists? That's the big expenditure. Well, we have to cut on the bo- Hey! We're going from 25 billion...we got a going to 21 billion 750 million Sorry no body armor for you. We need the caviar and we need those shrimp deals for lunch. We can't give you body armor
1:59:14 No, this doesn't make any sense. I can't believe it's that much money. It doesn't make any sense at all! I can't believe... 25 billion? What is the operating budget of CBS or NBC?! You think that they're spending $25 billion? Well, this is by the way just... That 25 billion is NPR. It's not even the television stuff! I thought it was all of public media No, all public media was 1 billion from the government This doesn't sound right. And if that one billion is part of, you know this 1%, that would mean a hundred billion goes into the... These guys are making money making bank!
1:59:59 Someone's getting cornholed today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me I think the question is would we be able to thrive as a national network? That is what I am focused on, is that we get so much value as public media by being part of a 50 state network that covers 99.7% of the American population If federal funding goes away, that network is absolutely at risk. The quality of service the ability to cover everyone people who live in what would otherwise be news deserts and as a result there's no question that NPR would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage. Richness? Yes literally! Richness of our national coverage very rich richness of your national coverage it's obvious. That NPR would
2:00:46 as would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage if those local newsrooms... Right, so it's local newsrooms that would be going away and often in places where local newspapers have already been designated. One percent! Make the case why should any tax dollars support public broadcasting when there are plenty of other news organizations around? When anyone frankly these days can produce programming on their iPhone. Okay On your iPhone. Yeah, that's you can prove That's what the tax lady said to me when she went through the airstream Yes I know I use that story all the time by the way just make your podcast on your iPhone By the way NPR uses the Neumann u67 which cost seven thousand eight hundred and ninety five dollars as a microphone I'm literally using an unmarketed never-to-be sold curry one microphone
2:01:42 Which costs about soon to be available to everyone Absolutely. And I think that it's important for public media to be able to continue to be relevant in a time where there is a lot of coverage, different issues and areas of interest. At the same time, it's very easy to say that there's universal coverage because there's so much content being produced but the reality is many places in this country do not have access to either cell phone service or high speed broadband where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access. Hey, I'm out here in the sticks! They're not gonna hear... Hey honey you got a radio? Cause' I don't know we can get television or nothing we can't get no internet. You could just do the tech grouch just audio and then we can put AI Scaramonga could put the Tech Grouch over it. It would pretty much do that by now yeah Yeah, you should consider that Did you see the latest Scaramonga video
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Local News Deserts, Public Service, Hyper-Local Podcasting
NPR claims that 20% of Americans live in areas where public radio is the only source of local news. Adam Curry disputes this, sharing an anecdote about his local station, KUT in Austin, playing national programming during a local weather emergency. The hosts advocate for hyper-local podcasting as a more effective alternative to taxpayer-funded public broadcasting.
2:02:42 No, I did not. Or high-speed broadband where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to news. Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about... She mentioned zero places she said some places where people live who had that voice that you have. You can't get any reception! Move the rabbit ears, honey. Yeah. Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about 20% of Americans live in an area without any other local news coverage other than their local public radio station? Oh yeah like Austin where we had—we were snowed-in for five days but without electricity I turned on my local NPR station KUT and I got
2:03:37 This was fresh air with Terry Gross. Bull crap, lady! You're right this is why hyper-local podcasting is the way to go there is no local programming. This is tremendously important as a public service and just because not every single person uses it every day you know I don't drive on our interstates every day and yet when I need it its there No, you are in the back of the limo You better be in the back of the limo. But that's a false equivalency anyway, and by the way, the same places that don't have any internet don't have the interstate either! This is like bullcrap and these people are still begging for money they they have a budget of anywhere between 25 and 100 billion dollars from their own numbers that they just you heard her she said it's 1%
2:04:29 It's unbelievable and they get money from the government for no good reason. They get money from foundations, they get money from individuals you know viewers like you and they get money from advertising whatever you want to call it So they got money coming in, the underwriting is another way. They've got money coming in every which way that broadcasts people and people who actually have to work for a living don't get all these inputs. It's ridiculous! And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage perfect segue see in the morning to you the man who put the C in the new CDC report say hello to my friend on the other end he won the only Mr John C
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Value-for-Value Model, Deplatforming, Independent Media
The hosts discuss the "value-for-value" model of the No Agenda show, which relies entirely on listener contributions rather than advertising or government grants. They emphasize the importance of remaining independent from platforms like YouTube or X to avoid deplatforming. The segment encourages listeners to support the show through time, talent, and treasure.
2:05:10 Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry In the morning I should see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls! 1944 was a good year. It was a good year, 1944 on the troll crowned. Hello trolls! Trolls are all tuned in at noagenda dot stream or trollroom dot IO you can hop right into the troll room troll along or a modern podcast app You can get them at podcastapps.com No matter what Silicon Valley tries to do your favorite podcasts will never be deplatformed by now while stocks last
2:05:48 And we thank our producers for how, I mean we'd love to thank our underwriters or advertisers and the government for $25 billion. I'll tell you something, I do a show every day. I do three hours every day. Every day! John time to end this show but I don't want to end the show. 25 billion dollars? Oh let's do a show We would be deconstructing the media like crazy. Every say... I will bring a DVD or USB stick to your house Every day I'll deliver it to you. Where you have no reception, poor person without interstate or without internet or any reception just got cows looking at the fields little house on the prairie
2:06:32 So we thank our producers for the value-for-value model which we've been employing in our 18th year now, which means we give you the show no charge. You don't have to tune into the radio. Just get it on your computer or on your smartphone however you want to get it. It's available everywhere from time and time people put it on YouTube foolishly Because it always gets taken down. And, oh man I can't post the show on YouTube anymore already got two strikes from your show! Hello? Two strikes... I love how people say hey i've got a great idea um I think you should simulcast on X and like why would we do that
2:07:12 Because you have all we're gonna build our audience on X and then what if Elon sells X or Elon decides he wants to go a different direction. We're not gonna have those guys take him down, or our audience could get taken down No I'm not gonna do that. No Oh, we're taking the it's not an easy route It's the narrow gate but we're going that way this is just what we've decided And all we ask for in return is that you just give us some value back. Time, talent, treasure... So we always thank people who support us financially $50 or above but we also like to thank people who do things for us and we are always grateful to our dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette who are keeping servers running for us and so many people do so many different things
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No Agenda Art, Art Generator, Website Glitches
The hosts review recent submissions to the No Agenda Art Generator, selecting a "back-to-school shots" lunchbox design by Nessworks as the episode's album art. They also discuss a recent technical glitch at the show's website, which was caused by an expired SSL certificate rather than a DNS issue. Nessworks is currently leading the show's art leaderboard for the last 90 days.
2:08:01 And then we have no agenda art generator.com where artists can upload art on the fly during the live show or sometime during the live show because we just choose it, a good piece that has it all for us. We're arts directors in that case and we're just looking for something that's funny and hopefully something with some fun that we provided. Then we use that as our album art. We use it to promote the show and it always is a good way to get attention and we feel that it works. We have enough evidence of that, and so we want to thank Nessworks. Oh! Nessworks. Nessworks has been around for a long time he did the back-to-school shot in back to school shots lunchbox uh... we were actually considering two different ones you know between this one another one but we like the back-to-school shots lunch box
2:08:57 Then there was the sign on the Oval Office door. Yeah, I was gonna use that for the newsletter You didn't use it? No Hey what is why is the The art generator. I'm only seeing maybe it's a little on a laptop screen I'm only seeing two rows all of a sudden instead of three hmm It looks fine on mine okay There were some other things click submit it again submitted Oh, interesting. Yeah that works good work I can always see a lot of fun t-shirts coming up that we get to pick from Let's see there was some barista jokes about the blue haired the liberals make better coffee I kind of liked the chaos misspelled chaos by digital one two one two man with exploding head you didn't like that
2:09:59 Oh, and then Darren O'Neill. Did we talk about Darren O'Neall? That he did a... Was that the previous episode? That might have been the previous... No, that was episode 1754 right What are you talking about, the farmer's wife? Yeah. The farmer's wife. I think we talked about that one already. You talked about it already. We did not understand the hedgehog or porcupine... Yes, we were baffled by digital 2112 man. Didn't understand what that was about! He has a porcupine or a hedgehog holding a no agenda flag by the Statue of Liberty It was weird enough to catch our eye, but we didn't quite understand. There's a joke in there where it eluded us Yeah I think that it was between those two. It was the bend your knees while visiting sign and the back-to-school shots and it was a cool little lunchbox. Good job at Nessworks. He is on the leaderboard isn't he?
2:11:02 I check the leaderboard. Where is he? He's 8th overall and let's see, rolling 90 days... Oh he's way off the radar there! How about rolling 6? No no a rolling 90 days is one. Oh wow let me see oh yeah you're right chosen four times you're right he's number one All right, Nessworks. Good stuff! NoAgendaArtGenerator.com that's where you can participate too or you can just go take a look and get refreshed during the show Or modern podcast app we have these chapters which also show up at noagendashow.net by the way We had what are they called? A glitch at noagendashow.net And so now we have to re-import and some things got screwed up You know what it was
The show acknowledges high-tier donors, including Sir Leron and Commodore J-Stroke. They introduce the concept of an "NPR donation," where listeners give their government tax refunds to the No Agenda show. Commodore J-Stroke is seeking "startup yak karma" for his new business, Chupacabra Canoe, which provides canoeing supplies and content.
2:11:54 Guess what the problem was? It's only one of two things. The first thing you always need to look at when you have any problem in internet technology is DNS, it was not DNS this time but close! It was an expired cert there you go. Oh classic! Classic! We did it noagendaartgenerator.com and thank you all so much for your participation now I want to thank our executive and associate executive producers. We thank everybody $50 and above, but at this point in the show we thank people 200 dollars and above. And if you come in with two hundred dollars or above, you get the Showbiz Hollywood title of Associate Executive Producer completely valid! In fact I was showing someone at the party last night he was
2:12:49 putting, writing down my number and I saw he had IMDB. He said oh you got IMDB? Yeah i'm on IMDB! He said yeah look at no agenda look how many people he says like a thousand people it's like wow that's really impressive okay Dutch guy What does he know? That's right, man. Oh do you see this guy Dana Brunetti you notice him wow that guy is a producer of your show mm-hmm yep Wow You know him oh yeah my partner goes out and drives his firetruck all the time Really? Anyway nice seeing ya vote for Trump Yeah well I should talk about his other thing like I mentioned No we're not talking about that
2:13:29 So $200 above you get that Associate Executive Producer credit, good for your lifetime and recognized around the globe even in the Netherlands. And we'll read your note! $300 or above will read your note and you get an Executive Producer credit. Then we kick it off with Sir Leron from Dothan Alabama...and he is probably the only person who came in with a 420 donation Hopefully 420 has more donations on 420. And so of course I mentioned in the newsletter that, I didn't know this for some reason but there are all these clips that you see here and there on TikTok about how they're gonna declare martial law on 420. Yes! On Easter! Happy Easter everybody! It's Hitler's birthday! That's... yes it is? You didn't know that?! No! I never knew that 420 was Hitler's birthday Yeah and so they say
2:14:19 Yeah, who knows? Who knows. Anyway... And he says happy Easter to my favorite show Sir Leron! Well thank you very much appreciate it Happy Easter to you That was nice Commodore J-stroke Is it J or I stroke It must be I stroke No J stroke It should be I stroke is funnier Norton Ohio Woooo! Gotcha I gotcha 415.25, close enough! Please accept my tax day donation of $415.25 the government gave it back and so I'm giving it to you guys and the show anybody who gets a big tax refund we will welcome yes a high-end donation that you can write a note and we'll read it yeah it's almost like NPR getting it from the government
2:15:10 Yeah, it's government. It's the best we can do. We don't get the billion dollars! It's called an NPR donation when you get a tax refund and give it to the show it's an NPR donation. NPR donation I agree with that. And you get a Scott Simon jingle which would include... Hello? Don't put me on the spot. You get a Scott Simon jingle! Jaffer and Suckatash. Simon, there you go. Please dub me Sir Commodore J-stroke of the Chupacabra canoe dot com I'm not sure the order of the titles is it sir Commodore or is it Commodore sir? I heard it both ways You do whatever you want. Oh what happened there no I'm coming through hold on now all of a sudden you switched
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Donor Credits, Monetary System, Gold vs Credit
Donors Zach Williams and Lucas Tijema are recognized for their contributions. Williams's note discusses cracks in the global monetary system and the importance of gold as real money compared to digital credit. The segment includes a plug for Altrust Financial and a "Revvin' Sharp" jingle for the donor's children.
2:16:07 I didn't switch anything. Oh, hold on yes something completely switc- what is going on? Okay we're gonna... Hold on! That was n- What is going on?! Hold on! I'll get rid of all that okay. I don't know what happened. I don't know why it happened It's a glitch alright Onward Can I get some startup yak karma for the chupacabra Canoe.com, working on getting our website up to speed with the canoeing related supply... Okay he does canoeing related supplies and content. Canoo's coming soon! Can I get a she looks like she stinks from episode 1754? Well yeah keep reading
2:17:08 Uh, yippie as a jingle? That really cracked me up. Just listen to that horn! I love this show, newsletter is great so much value by the way people resubscribe to the newsletter please uh better than shopping at Woolworth Wow what about Kresge What a compliment Sir Commodore J-Strokes I clipped it for you She looks like she stinks You've got karma. I went the extra mile Ashley Williams is in normal, Illinois Normal and normal little annoying and she says oh hey Sam's Club Wow Code if I ever heard it code yes Like your code actually thank you Zach Williams comes up at $330 and he's from
2:18:06 Wait, he's from normal Illinois too. No! What are the chances? Yeah. Hmm... Yeah what are the chances unless they're... Suspicious suspicious With the same last name I wonder what's going on with those two. In honor of gold breaking 3,300. Another good reason to donate. Yes. Also since he had 330 years so he's 1 10th of that okay I'd like to clip a coin and provide value for value for the best podcast in universe unfortunately you receive digital fiat instead as there are 200 other people paper claims on your gold Shout out to my wife for being hot. That must be Ashley, letting me make four human resources to increase the knowage in the nation. Yes! Good for her. Good work Ashley I'm not the first and won't be that you know...I almost got a bunch of clips of this natalist crap Oh yeah but i didn't so everyone should be thankful donate to the show because I didn't clip it
2:19:03 I'm not the first and won't be the last to point out cracks appearing in the monetary system similar to 2019 repo liquidity crisis. Although the Fed and Treasury continue to produce new ways of ensuring liquidity, the probabilities favor yet again another event with plausible deniability. Insert false flags followed by ah Jay Powell memes! In times like these it's important to note that Mr Bank himself once said gold is money everything else is credit Ignore that at your own peril. If anybody has investment questions or concerns, you can find me at www.altrust.financial. That's altrust.financial another plug. Please call out my partner Jared as a douchebag!
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Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon, Frequency Illusion, Classroom Anecdotes
Jeremy and Laura Brogan share an anecdote about the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, also known as frequency illusion, occurring in a sophomore English classroom. The teacher laughed out loud when the phrase "pell-mell"—a recent No Agenda show title—appeared in a text. The hosts provide a "de-douching" and "double-up karma" for the couple and their children.
2:20:38 Or Jeremy did one of them. No, it must be Jeremy because it says my wife and I have been dedicated listeners since Adam appeared on Glenn Beck a few years ago a few years back mm-hmm our donations have been infrequent but there have been many instances of Bader Meinhof phenomenon recently so we couldn't deny We call it Bernie Madoff phenomenon because it's easier to remember. I had to look at once, I looked up Badr Meinhof Are you interested? What is what is what is bad or mine off Imagine this You've just learned about a new car model and suddenly start seeing it everywhere on the road in commercials Even your neighbor just bought one Is it a mere coincidence or is there something more to it welcome to the world of Bader meinhof phenomenon otherwise known as frequency illusion
2:21:35 Yes, yeah. Well I didn't know that! I didn't know it had a name! That Baader-Meinhof was a bunch of terrorists... I thought it was a train stop somewhere in Germany. It is now we got to look into this Anyway, he goes and continues with the phenomenon to discussing. He says one such instance happened in my wife's classroom She teaches sophomore English and lo and behold the phrase pell-mell Which we used I think we titled a show
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First-Time Donors, Job Karma, Baby Making Karma
Several donors, including Doug Ray and Eli the Coffee Guy, are acknowledged for their support. Julio Perez and Linda Lou Patkin request "job karma" for their respective family members and businesses. Matthew Doolittle receives "baby making karma" and "Kamala biscuits" in honor of his upcoming birthday.
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A viral TikTok claims that three prominent Yale historians, including Timothy Snyder, have fled to Canada to escape "fascism" under the Trump administration. Adam Curry clarifies that the individuals moved for lucrative job offers or personal reasons rather than political asylum. This is followed by a supercut of Bernie Sanders warning about the rise of oligarchy in America from 1993 to 2025.
2:27:40 We hit people in the mouth. I got some trans Maoism stuff which could probably fold into some TikTok clips you've got. Well, I've got some TikTok clips...I have two! You want to do those first? Really?! Yeah let's get it because they're fun and people love them. Okay Let's start with the historians A line has been crossed for the 10 years that Trump has terrorized the American political scene we have been asking the question of when do we need to go
2:28:35 What's the danger signs? What are the lines that need to be crossed for you to realize it's time to pull the shoe It just happened three prominent Yale historians have now fled for Canada Jason Stanley Timothy Snyder whose book I've recommended on my page and Timothy's wife Marcy Shore Have all decided to leave why because those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. Oh And they looked around at what's going on in our country and said, we're not safe time to go. If I'm going to be able to continue my work and educate people on what's going
2:29:12 I need to go. I can't do that here safely anymore because the Trump administration is rapidly descending into fascism and dictatorship, and they're not safe anymore to educate the public about the things that they know about history to try and prevent these types of things." When Hitler took over in 1933 it wasn't just that and mass extermination There was a lead up many years. Obviously their largest perceived enemy was the Jewish people, but they targeted lots of other groups as well. It was political opponents civil servants who voted in way that they didn't agree with sound familiar? We're offering buyouts Turkey so that they can replace everybody with yes people in our current government trans people gay people
2:30:01 Disabled people who they didn't want to take care of. They've been attacking gay and trans people in this country, they've been going after services for disabled people. What? These historians see the writing on the wall so if you were looking for your oh shit sign it's here. Okay well a couple things let's go first of all there are three historians there's a couple that are historians the other person is He teaches philosophy, he's not a historian so she got that wrong. The other thing is the woman just mentioned she's already living in Canada She has been there because she took a job up there before Trump was elected and the other guy was offered a job for two years to go up there So he is going to go up there
2:30:48 because it's lucrative and his wife is there. The whole thing, this is like just creating something out of nothing It's just astonishing to me Well allow me to interject your TikTok clips with a history lesson of my own This is a supercut, its only a minute don't worry from 1993-2025 so this is a good history not of fascism in America but of oligarchs taking over Bernie Sanders from 1993 to to 2025. is evolving into an oligarchic society. It is called oligarchy and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward This is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy A handful of billionaires
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UK Equality Act, Biological Sex, Transgender Rights
The UK High Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act defines "woman" and "sex" based on biological sex. This decision means that transgender women with gender recognition certificates will not be counted toward female quotas on public sector boards. The ruling is seen as a significant victory for campaigners in Scotland who argued that sex-based protections must remain rooted in biology.
2:32:07 are moving this entire planet toward an oligarchic society. Start off with the bad news, which is pretty bad and that is that under Donald Trump this country is hurtling rapidly towards oligarchy Keep it up Bernie! One day it'll happen I'm confident Yeah this is 30 years of clips Yes 30 years of Bernie Sanders saying we're rapidly moving towards an oligarchy but now under Trump its finally really happening Oligarch. Yeah, nobody even cares now all right so the other TikTok clip here's a classic liberal lady not sure why no one understands how I feel you guys know that my husband turned Republican this term i don't know why threw his ass out of the house and um...I have to do more I don't want to shave my head because that's going to hurt him! I'm gonna look ugly So I am NOT doing it. I think I'm gonna sleep with his friends I think thats the only way
2:33:04 I think sleeping with his friends will do. What do you guys think? His liberal friends, of course! Oh please... This is TikTok clickbait You're not sleeping with anybody She's not sleeping with anybody Do better, John! She wishes she was a slut Hey big news from the UK this hit the wires everybody it was all a tizzy here because The UK High Court has come up with some legal definitions and it's a problem. It is a long-awaited decision that defines how equality laws are applied, and who they apply to The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act defines a woman as someone born biologically female What? It means the law won't apply to transgender women with a gender recognition certificate What?! In the same way it applies to cisgender women The unanimous decision of this court
2:33:57 is that the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex. But we counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not The judge stressed that the law still gives transgender people protection against discrimination in a separate part of the Equality Act. What it won't do though is define trans women as women in representation on public sector boards for example, which is what prompted the long-running legal dispute in the first place This is really interesting I wonder if this was happening in the US? As part of ESG when it was still in play
2:34:45 economic, social governance. You had to have equal representation of women in boardrooms now I'm wondering how many US board rooms had trans women on it because that's what sparked this whole debate in the UK Do you know by any chance? No, I have no idea. In fact it wasn't even thinking about it until this UK thing. But the UK was doing it! Lobby group for Women Scotland complained that ministers had included trans people as part of the quotas in that law and brought the challenge against the Scottish government in 2018 They see the ruling is a huge victory Today The judges have said what we always believe to be the case That women are protected By their biology
2:35:30 biological sex, that sex is real and that women can now feel safe. That services and spaces designated for women are for women." The case may have started in Scotland but the decision adds to a particularly polarising debate over transgender rights across the UK and could be used by campaigners to press the government over its wider policies. A small light bright light in the UK all of a sudden Quite surprising. It's very surprising, I think they'd go the other way Then the most ironic clip of the day which completely fits the what you say is your own thing with your head in half
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Letitia James, Loan Allegations, Jonathan Turley
New York Attorney General Letitia James is facing allegations of falsifying records to receive favorable loan terms on properties in Virginia and New York. Critics, including Bill Pulte and Jonathan Turley, point out the irony of James being accused of the same financial misstatements she prosecuted Donald Trump for. The allegations suggest she claimed an out-of-state property as her principal residence.
2:36:15 Letitia James. And a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Director Bill Pulte said James appears to have falsified records in order to meet certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms. He cited a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her principal residence and a property in New York that she claimed has a four unit structure instead of the required
2:36:53 instead of a five which Pulte says means she was able to get a different type and more favorable loan. Joining me now is Jonathan Turley, Fox News contributor and law professor at GW University your reaction to these allegations? Well obviously the irony is perfectly crushing this is a person who prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress. And among the charges that were brought in New York, and not just the civil but the criminal case was making false or misleading statements to financial institutions
2:37:29 If we apply the Letitia James standard that she created, there'd be little question here. This seems pretty straightforward what the administration is saying is this was not her principle of residence. In fact, as a New York elected official she had to say that her principal residence was in New York this was an out-of-state residence but also they claimed that and some of these forms she actually states that her father is her husband in order to file as a married couple once again the Moe prophecy comes true! The black women get taken down you couldn't take down Trump we're taking you down there it is
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Janet Mills, Title IX, Transgender Sports Lawsuit
Attorney General Pam Bondi has announced a federal lawsuit against the state of Maine and Governor Janet Mills over non-compliance with executive orders regarding transgender athletes in women's sports. The administration is seeking an injunction and the return of titles to female athletes. Education Secretary Linda McMahon warned that states allowing biological males in female facilities face civil rights investigations.
2:38:13 The irony is delicious. Yeah, and also the woman Fannie is in trouble down in Georgia wasn't she already in trouble? That's what I meant she's been in trouble yeah problems left and right then promises made promises kept we knew this was gonna happen so it's no surprise but Kind of fun. Many remember the moment, a direct confrontation at a White House governor's meeting in February between President Donald Trump and Maine's Democratic Governor Janet Mills about her state not complying with his executive order banning transgender men in women's sports. Governor Mills is off mic but her defiance of the president is clear
2:38:57 Are you not going to comply with it? I'm complying with the state and federal laws. Well, we are the federal law. Well you better do it because you're not gonna get any federal funding at all if you don't and by the way your population even though it's somewhat liberal although I did very well there your population doesn't want men playing in women sports so you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. See you in court Every state... good! I'll see you in court. Fast forward to this week when US Attorney General Pam Bondi announced a federal lawsuit against the state of Maine over opting not to comply with the Trump executive order and violations of Title IX sections that address eligibility of transgender students in athletic competition. Yeah, there you go so... Pam Bondi man she is like Fashion Barbie I see her sitting in the Oval Office You know who was there? Bukele
2:39:55 from El Salvador and she's got her, I mean everyone is in business attire and she is fashion Barbie. It's amazing! She has the hip pants on an everything so taking care of business here against Maine Attorney General Bondi outlined the goals of the federal lawsuit We are seeking an injunction to get them to stop this Stop what they're doing that pretty simple And we are seeking to have the titles returned to the young women who rightfully won these sports. Education Secretary Linda McMahon's words during the announcement served as more of a warning than anything else that May may just be the start of legal battles over transgender men in women's sports and even referred back to that February confrontation. We want to make sure, if you open women's sports or intimate facilities to males, you expose yourself to federal civil rights investigations
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Iran Nuclear Program, Rafael Grossi, IAEA Talks
IAEA Chief Rafael Grossi traveled to Tehran for urgent talks regarding Iran's nuclear program, warning that the country is "weeks away" from possessing a bomb. Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arakchi met with Grossi before departing for Moscow to meet with Vladimir Putin. The UN watchdog continues to seek assurances regarding the peaceful nature of Iran's nuclear activities.
2:40:58 Governor Mills will definitely get her wish. Boom! There you go. Yeah, Mills is just a whore and how does she ever get elected? She's the ugliest politician. No no no John... That has nothing to do with it yes. I think that has a lot to do with it she's she's ex- Her ugliness comes out well yeah it is internal. It's her she's ugly in the inside Yes internal yeah I agree Update on Iran Yeah, we know it's just weeks away. Iran is not far from possessing a nuclear bomb. That was the warning from the UN's Nuclear Watchdog Chief Rafael Grossi as he has travelled to Tehran for talks to be held today. Grossi saying it's like a puzzle they have the pieces and one day they could eventually put them together Oh! It's like Minecraft The UN watchdog tasked with overseeing Irans nuclear program and its compliance
2:41:55 with the 2015 nuclear deal which they collapsed three years later when the United States withdrew from it during President Donald Trump's first term. Western countries, including the US have long accused Iran of seeking to acquire nuclear weapons an allegation Tehran has consistently denied insisting its program is for peace civilian purposes. We're going to cross live then to our correspondent Sayyed Ezemi who joins us now from Tehran, say Gracie then warning once again really of just how close Iran could be developing a nuclear bomb. Well yes Stuart that was the message we received from Rafael Gracie loud and clear last night when he arrived in Tehran he met Iranian foreign minister Abbas Arakci in a meeting that he described as timely and important
2:42:42 Rafael Grossi is in Tehran for two days. So due to the busy schedule that the Iranian foreign minister had, because the Iranian foreign minister is right now on route to Moscow to meet Russia's Vladimir Putin. So the IAEA director general Rafael Grossi met the Iranian foreign minister last night the is given to him, to ensure the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program. So a very interesting development and President Trump announced this while Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting in the Oval Office with him. He said you know we're gonna talk to Iran and I guess we're talking to Russia
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US-Russia-Iran Deal, Uranium Dispatch, Steve Witkoff
Reports suggest the United States offered Iran a deal to lift sanctions if it agreed to ship its nuclear material to Russia. However, Iranian officials have reportedly rejected the offer, and Trump envoy Steve Witkoff stated the U.S. is not interested in simply dismantling the program. The hosts note the persistent "two weeks away" narrative regarding Iran's nuclear capabilities.
2:43:33 Iran and Russia are talking together. Maybe we'll have Russia oversee stuff, and well... They're all coordinating their messages in net-nut Yahoo's out of the picture. Out! He's out. But although according to half of our listeners he is running everything somehow. He is running the show. He's running the show. I keep trying to get to this clip Tell us more about the situation regarding Iran and its nuclear program. Good evening, Mark Yes There's been quite a bit of news the first thing we heard today which was itself quite shocking From the Guardian newspaper is that the United States offered Iran a sort of exchange deal? some sort of peace agreement or the lifting of sanctions
2:44:18 If Iran agreed to dispatch its uranium, its nuclear material out of Iran to a third country the nation being mentioned was Russia. But we heard this in the context of Iran not being interested even in that sort of an offer. Obviously the news about this sort of American alliance with Russia coming upon the US You know, acquiescence of Russian efforts in Europe and Ukraine also caused reverberations here in the Middle East. And subsequently news came of Donald Trump's envoy Steve Whitkoff saying that in fact the United States is not interested in dismantling Iran's nuclear program.
2:45:06 This is a very interesting development. considering that, you know the last administration that tried to do a deal with Iran was kind of along the same lines. Just don't make a bomb we know you're only two weeks away Don't make a bomb and they keep showing... perpetually 2 weeks away Yes and they keep showing the aluminum tubes over and over again
Hamas has rejected a new Israeli ceasefire proposal that called for the disarmament of the militant group as a condition for ending the war. The proposal included a 45-day pause and the release of half of the remaining Israeli hostages. Hamas officials stated that their weapons are for self-defense and that the deal lacked guarantees for a permanent withdrawal of Israeli troops.
2:45:57 Yeah, they have the same B-roll. Yeah some psychological effect I'm sure that brings us to Gaza which is part of this deal somehow mm-hmm Have the Gaza Israel update Hamas is rejecting new Israeli ceasefire in Gaza. The proposal calls for disarming the militant group as a condition for ending the war. NPR's Daniel Estrin has more from Tel Aviv. The new Israeli proposal is to pause the war in Gaza for a month and a half, free about half of Hamas' living Israeli hostages within the first week and negotiate the disarmament of militant groups A Hamas official tells NPR the group rejects the proposal. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Hamas was still preparing a formal response to mediators, but in a statement Hamas and other Palestinian groups said their weapons were for self-defense. They said the ceasefire proposal did not include guarantees to end the war and withdraw Israeli troops from Gaza Israel's defense minister says Israel is changing tactics and won't withdraw troops from areas they capture in Gaza
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Josh Shapiro, Firebombing Incident, Cody Balmer
Cody Balmer, a 38-year-old mechanic, has been charged with domestic terrorism after firebombing Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence during Passover. Balmer allegedly confessed to the attack, citing Shapiro's support for Israel as his motivation. The fire caused significant damage to the mansion's dining and piano rooms while the governor's family was inside.
2:46:58 Well, that brings us to the Governor Shapiro story. Which we looked at that on the last show and said hmmm... That has FBI written all over it Now I'm not so sure Tonight, this is the suspect police are calling a domestic terrorist. They say Cody Balmer scaled a fence and firebombed Governor Josh Shapiro's residence while the governor and his family were sleeping upstairs These images show the damage from two Molotov cocktails made from beer bottles and gasoline that prosecutors say Balmer took from his lawn mower The piano room in part of the dining room destroyed Chairs and tables charred Other objects melted
2:47:39 In the same spot hours earlier, the Shapiros celebrating the first night of Passover. from all across Pennsylvania and all across the United States. A senior law enforcement official tells ABC News authorities are investigating whether this attack could have been motivated by the governor's Jewish faith Shapiro and his family were gathered Saturday evening with two dozen others he shared this photo of a Seder plate hours later state troopers banging on the door to get everyone out
2:48:16 Chief, had the door not been closed could the fire have spread further and deeper inside the mansion putting the governor and his family at risk? If that door wasn't closed the fire would have spread and would've definitely put the governor at even greater risk. What'd you say? How? How?! What's a door got to do with anything? The windows were broken! I don't know... That's just that's for the story. What are you and by the way? It wasn't no we didn't think the FBI had anything to do with that We thought the FBI and I still think so has something to do with that maniac kid who killed his two parents And was caught in Kansas he was gonna go shh you're right. He was gonna go drone Trump. I'm sorry The FBI has backed off of that story because I don't I think they were behind like that He was messaging Ukraine. He was gonna get a job there, right Oh
2:49:06 No, you're right. And I think the FBI backed off of it completely and not taking it... no don't talk about because I don't think he was intended that is going to kill his parents! No and then what happened is they like oh so what are we gonna do? Ah let's have this guy firebomb Shapiro This is the part of the fence the suspect breached to make his way inside the governor's residence where he set the fire with an incendiary device investigators cut away this part of the fence so they could do DNA testing Today the governor surveyed the damage. Police say Ballmer fled the scene and later turned himself in. Authorities say that 38-year old mechanic had a plan, walking for approximately one hour from his residence to the Governor's residence allegedly while harboring hatred towards Governor Shapiro
2:49:49 asked by police what he would have done if the governor found him inside, Ballmer allegedly replied would have beaten him with his hammer. In the Oval Office President Trump on the incident today. Not me! The attacker was not a fan of Trump I understand just from what i read and from what I've been told The attacker basically wasn't a fan of anybody. It's probably just a whack job and certainly, a thing like that cannot be allowed to happen. We know what it was really about... Tonight state police say the man accused of firebombing the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on the first night of Passover called them confessed and said he did it because of Governor Josh Shapiro support for Israel in its war against Hamas
2:50:30 A newly released search warrant application said Cody Balmer called 911 less than an hour after the arson attack, identifying himself by name and telling the operator Governor Josh Shapiro needs to know that he will not take part in his plans for what he wants to do to the Palestinian people. The document said Bomber went on to say he needs to stop having my friends killed. Our people have been put through too much by that monster and you know where to find me I'm not hiding and i will confess to everything that I've done yeah sadly not the last of these attacks we're going to see it's ramping up Yeah, sadly we don't have a tape of this bull crap I'm sure they didn't see any of it You know what? Are you questioning the authorities? Jeez
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Ecuador Elections, Drug Violence, Cocaine Trade
Ecuador is facing a brutal international drug war that has resulted in one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America. The country's geography, sandwiched between major cocaine producers Colombia and Peru, has made it a strategic hub for Mexican, Colombian, and Albanian cartels. The port city of Guayaquil has become particularly dangerous as gangs fight for control of export routes to the U.S. and Europe.
2:51:13 I bet he did say that. I don't know, maybe if he did or didn't doesn't matter because obviously he did it. Or obviously...I don't know that either to be honest about it but the fact is this guy's a...is a...I think Trump had it as a whack job. Yeah, whack job. It's some screw...since we're international I guess some unusual clips about Ecuador. Five-minute warning Well, this will be it then. I got two clips from Ecuador. Here we go! Ecuador is famous for its beaches and its capital city Quito high in the foothills of the Andes but in the past few years Ecuador has been dragged into a brutal international drug war resulting one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America that has helped make tomorrow's elections one of the country's most important in years
2:51:59 If he has carry con joins us from Ecuador. Hey Carrie, hi Hi, so let's start with this Where are you and what is the mood like there? I'm in Guayaquil It's the biggest city in Ecuador it's also its economic center here unfortunately this port city and surrounding towns have become the most dangerous and deadly as for the mood I'd say people are just guarded and anxious for this election to come to an end. They're exhausted from the violence that's engulfed the country in recent years, and actually in recent months January and February of this year have been the most violent ever recorded with a homicide every hour being reported Wow
2:52:36 Can you just contextualize that for us a little more? Why has this violence erupted so quickly? First, it's been several years of gang violence here with the last few increasingly brutal as gangs splinter and fight for territory. Ecuador in the geography a sandwich between Colombia and Peru those are the biggest cocaine producers in the world And Ecuador brings a lot of other advantages besides geography It's $1 economy money laundering is easier here its visa laws had always been lax and that allowed a lot of foreigners to easily come In and corruption as widespread it has extensive ports, and a long Pacific coast
2:53:14 coastline lending great access to routes to the US and also to Europe which is seen as surge in cocaine use. Currently there are Mexican, Colombian and even Albanian cartels operating here and of course together with Ecuador's local gangs which have proliferated as the economy has stalled out here too You know what those people need John? They need stablecoin That's what they need. So, what is it? Europeans using coke? Oh yeah! Coke is big in Holland too. How did that happen? It has been that way for a while. I mean the port of Rotterdam was probably one of the biggest entry points for coke to get all throughout Europe you know the good old macro mafia is running and a lot of it here Yeah oh no and just cheap
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Daniel Noboa, Luisa Gonzalez, US Military Assistance
The Ecuadorian presidential runoff features pro-business incumbent Daniel Noboa against leftist challenger Luisa Gonzalez. Noboa, an ally of President Trump, has requested U.S. military assistance and the establishment of a base to fight drug cartels. Gonzalez, backed by former president Rafael Correa, advocates for social programs and opposes foreign military presence as a violation of sovereignty.
2:54:06 Everybody's like, oh I got some coke. Yeah you want some coke? Funny enough didn't get any offered at the party No you're a chumper! You turn him in and your a narc So that is the context for this election which is a runoff The winner will be president for the next four years Tell us about the two candidates Right The race is a repeat of the 2023 snap elections And the current president who won those been in power for only 16 months. He's 37 year old Daniel Noboa, he is the son of the richest man here in Ecuador. The family business is bananas one of Ecuador largest exports. Noboa is a close ally of President Trump and he is pro-business, he is pro free trade
2:54:47 His opponent, again is a leftist former lawmaker and lawyer Luisa Gonzalez. She's 47 and is a very close ally of the former firebrand leftist president Rafael Correa who ruled Ecuador for 10 years he's in self-imposed exile after being convicted of corruption but he still has a lot of sway and a loyal base here Is it fair to say that the crime and violence are THE big issue for voters given all this? Yes, it is the issue. It seems as if everyone has been hit by the crime wave here but you also hear a lot about former president Correa still too he's been out of power for nearly 10 years so it's kind of crazy to hear so much about him but there is a lot of polarization his supporters look fondly on this rule they tend to gloss over his corruption charges
2:55:34 His detractors blame him for much of the current economic and security crisis now. And like Correa, they say Gonzalez will bring socialism to Ecuador. Both candidates though say they will keep relying on the military for fighting the drug gangs. President Noboa has declared a state of emergency and declared he is fighting an internal war against terrorists He's asked Trump personally for US military assistance and even to put a base here. Gonzales says that is a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty, and she says she'll put more money into social programs in hard-hit communities. Oh there you go! Rubio to Ecuador... gotta get her base in there
2:56:11 Get your people some stable coin. Yeah, that's what I think the... I said it before the reason you pick Rubio is because he speaks fluent Spanish. He's going to South America He's doing deals down there. He's already straightened out the Panama thing we think and then you can't really know what the hell is going on And yeah this is perfect for him. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab! Still to come we've got a no agenda meetups, we have our end of show makes us sick. Three bangers today three bang absolute bangers you'll love them and I hear bangers and i've got some real isos people people say yeah man i'm not listening to the second donation segment because the fake ISO's the fake eyes nobody has said that I got an email specifically saying that just that
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Final Donor Credits, Boobs Donations, Dutch Producers
The final segment of donor acknowledgments includes "boobs donations" from Scott Castellini and Rick Moorman. Several donors from the Netherlands and Michigan are recognized for their support. The hosts provide final "de-douchings" and thank the "Archdukes" and "Baronesses" of the No Agenda nation for their continued financial participation.
2:57:06 You said it to yourself. John's gonna take us through the people who donated $50 or above as we appreciate every single one of you by going to noagendadonation.com. John, can you take it away? Yes sir. Ohio bloke in Hicksville Ohio 140 08 He's adding, this adds to the 220 from the Indy meetup. Oh okay, ah that's what we had him put it on here for. Lucas Williams in Roswell New Mexico 100. Matthew Cargo in Alleghen, Alleghen I don't know Michigan 100. He says Adam is the ISO I sent in against the AI slop. This is your guy! What? What?! I didn't even know what that is
2:57:59 He says, you used the ISO that he sent in to compete against my AI material which is anything but slop. Scott Castellini... It's not slop! Slop would be when it starts to deteriorate. You're already mixing up your own definitions. Scott Castellini in Arlington Virginia 8008 Kevin McLaughlin conquered North Carolina, North Carolina 808. He's Archduke, a lunar lover of America and lover of boobs Christian Gruelich in Winterhaven Florida 8008s today Rick... what is this? Mojman? This is a Dutch name I can't pronounce. Rick Mojman
2:58:52 Rick Moorman from Rijswijk in the Rijswijk, Netherlands. Another 8008 good for him a boobs donation from Rijswijk James Crane... Wait he needs to de-douching yes we're de-douching here we go you've been de-douched thanks for this show he writes. Yes James Crane in Missouri City Texas 75 Troy's Sprague, Sprague in Lapeer Michigan. 73-73. 73's to you. Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix Arizona 6580
2:59:35 It's a Gen X donation. $6580. Okay, Gen X-er! $6580 that's a great donation. That's another one. Yeah, $6580. Sir Skip Logic in Spring Hill Tennessee... $6446. Wait, $6446? That's a boomer donation 6440. Oh, yes it is! Wow back to back another random number situation beautiful James Edmondson in South Plainfield New Jersey 5510 Sir Zee-nonamous in Liverpool UK 5272 that's good to hear from bring the island Maryland Plaza in Garwood New Jersey
3:00:29 5272, and she's wishing her smoking hot husband Daniel a happy birthday. Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania 5250. Sir Anonymous Hitman... I'm sorry, Sir Economic Hitman at 5001 and he is in Tumble Texas wherever that And now we got the $50 donors to just read you the name and location, starting with Diane Schwanebeck in Johnsburg Illinois. Kevin Dills in Huntersville North Carolina. Easy Landscapes! In North Stonington Connecticut
3:01:08 Chris Lewinsky, Sir Chris in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Kris Cowan in Austin. Baroness Knight in Edmonds Washington she's in all the time. Leanne Shipley and Covington Washington. Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus and last on that list is Angela Pickering and she's in Sour Lake Texas I want to thank these people for making show 15 I don't know what is 1756. There you go the winner that it is, I got 1500 on the mind yeah well and you also got weird falsetto sock hop songs from the 50's on your mind It's incredible. You're a sock hop? Your mind your mind. Yeah I dunno what can I do? It's the placebo effect
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Knighting Ceremony, Commodore J-Stroke, No Agenda Rings
Commodore J-Stroke is officially knighted following a contribution of $1,000 or more. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "mutton and mead" menu and the presentation of the No Agenda Knight ring. Listeners are encouraged to visit the show's website to view the official signet rings and sizing guides for their own knighthoods and doctorates.
3:01:54 I need more coffee. Thank you all very much and of course again thanks to our executive and associate executive producers, and of course everybody who came in under $50 we don't mention those for reasons of anonymity but you can also set up your no agenda recurring donation there if you think he had one please check They do expire. It's noagendardonations.com, you can set it up any frequency any amount is all up to you it's all value for value unlike NPR! Noagenderdonations.com And we congratulate Matthew Doolittle who celebrated on the 15th. Kirkus Maximus turns 60 years old tomorrow and Marilyn Plaza wishes happy birthday to her smoking hot husband Daniel Hamill, he turns 50 years old and we say happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Now I was our knight-to-be Jstroke was he already a Commodore? Because
3:02:53 I don't see him listed as a Commodore, so i'm just gonna presume. I don't think he is a Commodore. A lot of people are just claiming Commodore in their title for knight which I find to be...I don't know if it's good or bad you can say whatever you want well if you want the certificate then you have to let us know yeah the certificate is a different story and that's really worth the money uh so for sure we're going to knight him right now so if you bring out your blade then we can do the duties right there okay everybody Commodore J-Stroke, please hop up on the podium sir. Thanks to your contribution in the amount of $1,000 or more for the best podcast in universe you become a knight and I'm very proud to pronounce the K-V as Sir Commodore J-Stroke of the Chupacabra canoe dot com yes for you we've got
3:03:37 Bookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got cookies and vodka diet soda and video games we have harlots and howl doll pepperoni rolls and pale ales. We have redheads and rise beers and blunts. We got cowgirls a coffin varnish Ruben s women in rosé Gayson the sake vodka vanilla bong hits of bourbon sparkling cider nesquik ginger ale and gerbils and as always some mutton meat You didn't request anything specific at the round table, so we're just going to think that it was the mutton and the mead that you came for. And its there for you! If you go to noagenderrings.com everybody can go right now take a look at that handsome No Agenda Knight in Dame ring It's a Cignet Ring So once you give us your ring size which you can do with the handy ring sizing guide on the website noagenderings.com
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No Agenda Meetups, Leiden, Ottawa
Upcoming No Agenda meetups are announced for Denver, Charlotte, Amsterdam, and Ottawa. A special "amygdala check-up" meetup is scheduled for Leiden, Netherlands, hosted by Baron Robert the Great. The hosts encourage listeners to start their own local meetups to build community and discuss the show's themes in person.
3:04:19 We'll send it to you with some sticks of wax and you can use that to seal your important correspondence. And as always, just like our commenterships and our PhDs it comes with an official certificate signed by John and myself. Welcome to the roundtable! The No Agenda Meetups... they continue I think there was actually one that took place just before I got here In Leiden. Oh no, it's actually today! There you go I knew it was on the list So here is what coming up today we have the Tax Day Hangover Meetup
3:04:56 That is underway. It's about to start at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado We have Charlotte's Thursday 3rd Thursday monthly meetup seven o'clock tonight at Edge Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina and there it is the fifth amygdala check up 733 so it's well under time Underway that'll be Amsterdam just time in locale 1650 Leiden in The Netherlands Oh, it's Baron Robert the Great of Limburg ex-douchebag Zobin who is hosting that. So we look forward to a meetup report from you guys on Saturday! The No Agenda DFW MidCities Meet Up kicks off at 1130 in the morning at Bourbon Street Bar and Grill never too early That'll be in Bedford Texas and finally our next show Sunday the Ottawa Meet up for Ottawans 4 30 at Liam McGuire's in Ottawa Ontario Canada
3:05:45 There are many more meetups than the ones I mentioned. We only mentioned the ones between shows and on show day itself, but if you go to noagendandmeetups.com you will see there are many more! There's a list that you can search by calendar or location... And if you can't find one near you start one yourself! Noagendandmeetups.com! It always is just like a party. NoahJennerMeetups.com
3:06:27 All right, so I have one two three. I have four Genuine isos they're real this not phony it's not AI It's not sure if these are real the ones I have now there all yeah We all know what you do There their actual mp3 files yes here are my ISOs? They're all real oh wow okay This is making me oddly happy and satisfied. That's not bad. That's okay, yeah It's a real one so that's it's actually quite astounding this is a podcaster fail Okay, and finally I mean could you want anything more in life? Hmm
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Tip of the Day, Scam Gram, Consumer Action
John Dvorak's "Tip of the Day" advises listeners to sign up for the "Scam Gram" newsletter from consumer-action.org. The monthly email provides information on current consumer scams, such as fraudulent fundraising for aviation accident victims or retail closure hoaxes. The hosts emphasize the importance of staying informed about evolving fraud tactics in the digital age.
3:07:11 I like that other one the best. This is making me oddly happy and satisfied! Yeah, it's pretty good. So what do you have big boy? Well i have some ones I created... Let's start with blah. Blah blah blah blah. Goodbye. No hard pass. Okay then finally. Finally the end And then go home. Go home! Show is over. Nah, I think mine wins hands down. I think so too. Mine are all negative. Yes and i have a very happy one. I've taken the negative turn. Yours are going to turn dark This is making me oddly happy and satisfied. And now everybody it's time for the moment of the show you've been waiting for It is John C. Dvorak's Tip Of The Day
3:08:03 Created fast for you and me, just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti Okay so this time I'm advising people to get on the mailing list Uh oh This is the tip of the day. Wow, okay It is the scam gram consumer actions monthly email it's actually entertaining I get it and I read it and its interesting Okay, this scam gram? Scam gram you go to consumer-action.org Click the box that says scam gram And then sign up What do ya get
3:08:47 You get a newsletter once a month that tells you all these crazy scams. Well, give me an example of a scam! Well, I can just open one of the newsletters. Yeah! What kind of tip is this? You're just telling us... The tip is to get... That's the tip It could be forwarding to a Dvorak Oasis sub stack for all we know There's a tip of the day Give us one of these scam tips from there from the newsletter Do you have it in front of you? I'm..I just opened it Okay I'm just gonna take a random scam and read it Alright Uhh.... I gotta get my glasses as small type
3:09:24 A few days ago before we hear about a new aviation scare accident that rattles the nerves of the flying public well, setting aside for a moment and it's very long winded. Although we like to call it hard to believe we can't ABC six affiliate serving in the Providence area of Rhode Island reported last week that the Barrington Police Department made an arrest in connection with a scam that claimed to be raising money for the family of two victims of the Washington D.C. midair plane collision I mean, that's one of the scams. It goes on and on about this. These are good stuff! I'm telling you...I mean you might not like it but this is a good tip during a case set. There just goes on there's a million of these scams going on and they're just could randomly read any of them because they're crafted Good Housekeeping website published a story this week about scam sparked by the looming closure some 800 Joanne Faber says a scam involved
3:10:19 I have it here, I see one. Apparently a newsletter is going out with a picture of a sad puppy and... Oh yes everybody! There it is your tip of the day go to tippoftheday.net noagendafund.com for John's Tip Of The Day. Created by Dana Burnetti. That's right everybody all right Moving up towards midnight here in the lowlands It's been a lot of fun time to go out Party time to party that's right Me and my Moroccan friends have a good time so I will be back for 420 for Easter show back in
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Outro, End of Show Mixes, Sunday Preview
Adam Curry concludes his broadcast from Amsterdam and prepares to return to Fredericksburg, Texas, for the next episode. The show ends with a series of "banger" mixes from Professor J. Jones and Neil Jones. The hosts sign off with their traditional catchphrases, promising to return on Sunday for further media deconstruction.
3:11:08 back in Fredericksburg. Very short trip this time, but I think I delivered the goods! You know what's happening in the EU and EU you should be telling us more about these things we need to know how you're really feeling I was quite surprised that our... But that was a depressing report. Yeah, but still our producers need to let us know when stuff has happened! I think you're right. I think they're dropping the ball. Coming up next on No Agenda Stream TrollRoom.io and your modern podcast app Hog Story number 452 Stay tuned for that And we have end of show mixes from Oh we've got a Jones Brother Sandwich Steve Jones Follow- Actually it's all Jones Professor J. Jones
3:11:49 No relation. And then Neil Jones, wah! Random number theory at the end of show mixes Coming to you from just parallel to runway 24 in Amsterdam's Koopel de Netherlands In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain I am John C. Dvorak We'll see on Sunday till then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such By any decent standard, they ought not to be drawn. I had sure better start from the beginning. We have to work with dark side or we're gonna spend time in the shadows. From the beginning...
3:12:30 We are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy to get people actually, to love their soul and be made to enjoy a state of affairs which by any decent standard they ought not to enjoy. Too many kids are what's making the planet worse. A lot of these kids come from bad gene pools, they don't have stable parents making good decisions I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan, for a new world order.
3:13:36 Alright everybody, we're going for chaos! Yes, donors around the world have noticed that. I'm curious why you noticed it. On the media... The dark forces of Satan obviously. The sour stench of chaos in the air Oh yes Stench of chaos is a good way to put it It's just all chaos and corruption There was chaos and confusion I always say tariffs is the most beautiful word to me in the dictionary. They said, what about love?
3:14:28 Religion and God. I said, I agree Let's put God number one Let's put religion number two Love...I don't know we gotta put that at number three i guess right? And then it's terror And then it's tariff. And then it's tariff, tariff! God number one, religion number two... Love I don't know we gotta put that at number three I guess right? And then its tariff
3:15:38 The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. This is making me oddly happy and satisfied